/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/04/#ubuntu-quality.txt

SergioMeneseshi all!00:33
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chilicuilhi there o/00:38
SergioMeneseshey hey chilicuil is here \o00:39
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pittiGood morning05:59
smartboyhwNoskcaj, PING07:00
Noskcajsmartboyhw, sup?07:00
smartboyhwNoskcaj, heard you going to write one post for Xubuntu:)07:00
Noskcajsmartboyhw, i might, got a bit of homework build up though. three things due friday, only one started ;)07:01
smartboyhwNoskcaj, uh.07:01
smartboyhwTry to:)07:01
Noskcaji will. also, i'm trying to make a "bong cooler", google it, it's not what you think07:01
dholbachgood morning08:07
* smartboyhw waves to dholbach 08:07
dholbachhi smartboyhw08:07
zygagood morning08:07
pittihey dholbach08:07
dholbachhey pitti, cześ´c zyga08:08
dholbachhow do I do the c with ´ on top?08:08
zygadholbach: pretty good, it should be after c though, like ć08:09
dholbachzyga, I need to find out how to do it on a German keyboard :)08:10
zygadholbach: I think it's already much better than my german, I'm trying to remember how to say 'hello'08:11
dholbach"hallo" :)08:11
zygahaha, that's easier than I expected08:11
smartboyhwlol08:11
dholbachdon't worry - the rest in German is harder ;-)08:11
zygadholbach: quality is not represented on the UDS much this time around08:14
dholbachdidn't many sessions get filed?08:15
smartboyhwdholbach, I'm seriously wondering why balloons didn't add one08:16
pittiit seems most sessions didn't get scheduled yet08:16
zygadholbach: well, it's the number of concurrent sessions that worries me, during normal UDSes even niche sessions that gathered ~5 people had a chance to happen, with the current focus on all the phone/tablet cloud desktop topics and only two days I don't see much time to schedule as many long-tail sessions as we could before08:17
zygadholbach: filed vs scheduled metric would be helpful here08:17
dholbachhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303 should help there08:17
dholbachzyga, ^08:17
dholbachfor sure 4 days → 2 days will have an impact08:18
dholbachbut with 4 vUDSes a year we will probably have to be a bit more focused at the events too08:19
dholbachthat's more a general comment, and less specific about QA sessions being filed/scheduled08:19
smartboyhwI think that we should have at least 1 non-virtual UDS after a LTS release....08:19
smartboyhwdholbach, ^08:19
zygadholbach: monday has ~20 sessions, that would put us at a roughly 40-50 sessions per UDS capacity08:19
dholbachmonday?08:20
smartboyhwlol08:20
zygadholbach: I hope you are right, I'm afraid that high-focus topics (phone etc) might always consume most of the slots though, they move the fastests and "are" most important for many reasons08:20
zygadholbach: so in the end they might starve everything else08:20
zygadholbach: I wonder if we could have a alter-UDS page for anyone that wants to have a session (informal) and still associate the recorded video with the rest of UDS08:21
dholbachzyga, if you have important things to talk about and they don't get filed/scheduled, file them and talk to your boss / the relevant track lead to make sure they get on the schedule08:21
zygadholbach: I did that, I hope it gets scheduled08:21
dholbachok good08:21
zygadholbach: but we're still inside canonical, community might not be so luchky08:22
zygalucky08:22
dholbachand if we find that we need more slots, we should have more slots in the next time08:22
zygadholbach: yeah, fair point08:22
zygadholbach: we should collect feedback after the event08:22
dholbachsmartboyhw, that'd probably be a topic for Mark, Jane and Rick I guess :)08:22
smartboyhwdholbach, good08:22
dholbachzyga, yes, AFAIK msm is looking into this08:22
dholbach(getting feedback)08:23
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vibhavpitti: hey10:58
pittihello vibhav, how are you?11:07
vibhava bit tired :)11:10
vibhavpitti: Could you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~vibhavp/ubuntu/raring/libg3d/add-autopkgtest/+merge/151341 ?11:10
vibhavpitti: I tested debian/build by sh11:11
vibhavIt should work on the VM too11:11
pittivibhav: building test bed, will run your branch then; looks good at first sight11:11
vibhav:)11:12
pittivibhav: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=70198911:15
ubot5Debian bug 701989 in src:libiptcdata "libiptcdata: Added DEP-8 tests" [Wishlist,Open]11:15
pittivibhav: please don't just send an URL to the preview merge diff, please attach the actual diff as it was merged to the Ubuntu pacakge11:16
pittivibhav: this one is missing the XS-Testsuite header, for example11:16
pittivibhav: please also forward the libfann patch and11:17
vibhavsure11:18
pittivibhav: firestring, too11:18
pittivibhav: libg3d works fine, thanks! Please forward to Debian, too11:27
vibhavwhoo11:27
* vibhav realized he got 10 total autopkgtests into ubuntu11:35
vibhav\o/11:35
pittivibhav: very nice!11:37
vibhav:D11:40
vibhav/usr/include/unac.h:78:39: error: unknown type name ‘size_t’11:44
vibhavUnbelieveable11:44
vibhavpitti: This should be a bug with the header, right?11:46
smartboyhwvibhav, :)11:52
pittivibhav: yes11:52
* vibhav goes to file bugs11:54
havryliukhello13:02
havryliukanyone could help with autopilot?13:02
* smartboyhw pings phillw 13:34
phillwsmartboyhw: pong13:48
smartboyhwphillw, if you have enough servers and storage spaces try to go to #ubuntu-gnome and help jbicha to get some daily images for Ubuntu Gnome Remix built (if you are willing to)13:51
phillwsmartboyhw: I'm just using my last spare for some 10.04 server testing, once done I'll make myself known.13:56
smartboyhwphillw, OK:)13:56
havryliukanyone could help with autopilot?14:19
balloonshavryliuk, sure14:36
smartboyhwHey balloons :P14:37
balloonsback in action :-)14:37
smartboyhwballoons, any UDS sessions for quality?14:37
balloonsyes indeed.. lots to talk about14:37
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havryliukbaloons, i have got the autopilot itself and successfully ran a sample test, e.g. show desktop14:45
smartboyhwballoons, GIMME THE BLUEPRINT OF THE UDS QA SESSION14:45
smartboyhw:P LOL14:45
balloonshavryliuk, excellent.. what's your questions?14:45
havryliukballoons, then i got the helloworld example, trying to run but autopilot cannot see the module helloworld14:46
balloonshavryliuk, are you running quantal or raring?14:46
havryliukballoons, 12.1014:46
balloonssmartboyhw, gotta draft them up..Trying to catch up on everything and plan, etc14:46
smartboyhwballoons, it is tmr for god's sake...14:47
balloonshavryliuk, ok, well everything should be working then. What's the error it gives?14:47
smartboyhwDo we have time to prepare14:47
smartboyhw?14:47
* smartboyhw blames balloons always on holiday on Saturdays14:47
balloonssmartboyhw, of course of course.. Heck it was announced last week14:47
balloonssmartboyhw, I was gone all week buddy :-p14:47
smartboyhwballoons, uh!?14:47
balloonsoff grid14:47
smartboyhwballoons, I will draft it up with you then14:47
havryliukballoons, oh! jusr ran it and it worked! XD14:47
smartboyhwYou create one first:)14:47
smartboyhwhavryliuk, XD14:48
havryliukballoons, your chat works like magic 8)14:48
balloonshavryliuk, nice :-) Well keep going, but if you get stuck, feel free to just ping. We're happy to help14:48
smartboyhwhavryliuk, you have just witnessed the enormous power of our Canonical Community QA Manager balloons :P14:48
balloonssmartboyhw, lol..14:48
* smartboyhw laughs indefinitely:P14:48
havryliukballoons, yeah! thanks - will look more into these autotests and see how i could help with that14:49
balloonshavryliuk, excellent. These links if you haven't seen them may also prove helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases http://qa.ubuntu.com/getting-involved/automated-tests/14:52
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roadmrcprofitt: hey! so the UF session is scheduled for Wednesday at 16:00 UTC (11 AM EST) - does that work for you?16:21
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SergioMenesesballoons, phillw \o17:22
SergioMenesesmorning17:22
balloonsSergioMeneses, hello!17:22
balloonsit's wonderful to be back, and what a week we have ahead of us!17:22
SergioMenesesballoons, is nice to see you again :)17:23
SergioMenesesor read you17:23
SergioMenesesnevermind, balloons can you give a check whit this bug 114123417:23
ubot5bug 1141234 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Gnome-terminal test needs clarified" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114123417:23
balloonsSergioMeneses, polishing off some emails.. then I'll have a look17:29
balloonsI saw your commit.. We'll chat in a moment about it :-)17:29
SergioMenesesballoons, sure! take your time17:30
ajbiz11Hello17:42
jtaylorI though the adt jobs rerun when a dependency changes?17:42
jtaylora numpy dep changed that fixed it but it didn't run again :(17:42
balloonshello ajbiz1117:45
balloonsjtaylor, yes they do run.. was it a first level dependency, or something really nested?17:46
jtaylorfirst level17:46
balloonsdholbach, ^^17:46
jtaylorit has multiple tests, its a dependency of one of them only17:46
jtaylor(openblas test)17:46
balloonsSergioMeneses, kk, let's have a look at your changes17:47
balloonsjtaylor, got a link to the test?17:47
jtaylorhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-numpy/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/24/17:47
SergioMenesesajbiz11, jtaylor \o17:48
dholbachpitti, got any idea why https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-numpy/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/24/ was not rerun when a dependency changed?17:48
dholbachjibel does not seem to be around17:49
balloonsdholbach, not sure pitti is around.. maybe :-)17:50
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Noskcajphillw, ping19:32
balloonsNoskcaj, howdy19:34
balloonsdid you see this perchance? https://code.launchpad.net/~chilicuil/ubuntu-manual-tests/partial-fix-1111814/+merge/15056119:35
phillwhi Noskcaj19:35
Noskcajphillw, hey, have you got anywhere with the lubuntu installer window theme bug?19:38
Noskcajballoons, nope, i'll look now19:38
balloonsNoskcaj, ty.. if you can give those tests a run through and make sure they work for you19:38
Noskcajballoons, i should have the time this weekend, if i'm not making a 7-foot bong (google bong cooler, i'm not a stoner)19:39
phillwNoskcaj: I've been afk most of the time since Thursday, still catching up.19:40
Noskcajok, you may want to check the lubuntu installer then19:41
phillwI'm going to have another go at 10.04 server for testing, then I'll catch up with other things :)19:42
balloonsNoskcaj, cool20:04
Noskcaj:)20:04
balloonsis this a swampcooler?20:04
balloonsanother name for it/.20:04
Noskcajyeah20:04
balloonsahh I see20:05
balloonsgoogle is a funny place: http://www.overclockers.com/fountain-cooler-5-gallon-bucket-style/20:07
balloonsanyways, back to it20:07
komputesballoons: any manual tests need love today?20:16
balloonshowdy komputes!20:16
komputeshow are you dude?20:17
balloonsexcellent. Had some lovely disconnected downtime.. Now I'm excitied to be readying for UDS20:17
balloonshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/113284720:17
ubot5Launchpad bug 1132847 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: Startup Disk Creator" [Undecided,New]20:17
balloonsThat would be a really nice test to have, as you know20:18
* jtaylor agrees20:19
jtaylorthe thing breaks to often20:19
balloonsotherwise, just trying to find some time to review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~chilicuil/ubuntu-manual-tests/partial-fix-1111814/+merge/15056120:19
balloonsindeed.. it seems prone to regressions20:19
komputesballoons: I'll look into that in a few hours, will you still be on?20:25
balloonskomputes, yes, I will be20:27
balloonsfeel free to ping20:27
komputeswill do20:27
balloonsty :-)20:27
balloonsLetozaf_, hello20:34
Letozaf_balloons, Hi :D20:34
Letozaf_balloons, howzit ?20:35
balloonsLetozaf_ busy :-) But very good20:41
balloonsI saw your global jam session videos and photos20:43
balloonsvery cool .. looks like you had a great time20:44
Letozaf_balloons, yeah! it was fun :D20:44
Letozaf_balloons, hope more followed the hang out20:44
balloonshaving non-english resources is helpful20:44
balloonsit's technical work20:45
Letozaf_balloons, I wasn't sure if I would have had to hold the hang out in English20:45
Letozaf_balloons, but not all Italians are good with English20:45
Letozaf_balloons, so I thought it would be better to speak in Italian :D20:46
balloonsyes.. SergioMenesesAFK was considering doing more things in spanish as well.. it's helpful for non-native speakers20:46
Letozaf_balloons, maybe I should have spoke in English with subtitles in Italian    lol20:47
Letozaf_balloons, yes its true,maybe they can write and read it well, but when it comes to speak it's a bit more difficult20:47
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balloonsLetozaf_, yes, and many of the words can be technical words.. so they are not basic english words, which can make it worse20:48
Letozaf_balloons, yes you're right :D20:52
maprerihey, Letozaf_ :)20:55
Letozaf_mapreri, Hello!20:55
Letozaf_mapreri, did you have fun at the Ubuntu Global Jam ?20:56
mapreriLetozaf_: sure, also because I ever wanted to see you in action :)20:57
Letozaf_mapreri, :D20:57
Letozaf_balloons, I used umockdev and it worked! but is there a way to use it with autopilot ?20:59
balloonsLetozaf_, so your all set with it yes?20:59
balloonsYes, we can use it from autopilot :-)20:59
Letozaf_balloons, yes, well I could do something with shotwell and my camera and then use shotwell without my real camera and use the fake one instead21:00
balloonsIdeally, we'd use it via a python module. But we can start by issuing system calls from python to do it21:00
balloonshave you done this before?21:00
balloonshttp://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html21:01
Letozaf_balloons, well I used a system call with zenity21:01
balloonsyea, I'm assuming you could/would simply executes your commands as needed through system calls to keep your test moving21:02
balloonsdo you think that can work based on what you've done?21:02
Letozaf_balloons, not sure because once I use umockdev and shotwell using a system call and , do you think I could still use introspection ?21:03
Letozaf_balloons, sorry I wrote quickly :(21:03
balloonsLetozaf_, well is everything you've done on the test committed up?21:04
Letozaf_balloons, I have not done much as I got stuck on introspection, I wanted to use it with shotwell but it did not work and I spent a lot of time21:04
Letozaf_balloons, trying to understand why21:04
Letozaf_balloons, I wanted to use introspection to click on the import all button in shotwell21:05
Letozaf_balloons, but I get an error21:05
balloonsLetozaf_, ahh.. yea, I think so things have progressed along by now.. if it still doesn't work we can ask the autopilot guys21:05
balloonsI really want to hack on this with you ;-) But I'm doing UDS planning stuff21:05
Letozaf_balloons, I can immagine you are quite busy for UDS, do you want me to wait for you or try something on my own ?21:06
balloonsLetozaf_, have at it.. try the introspection thing again quickly and see if it just works now or not21:06
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:07
balloonsI quickly tried autopilot launch shotwell21:07
balloonsand autopilot vis..21:07
balloonsit worked, so introspection should work fine21:07
thomi:)21:07
Letozaf_balloons, yes that works I mean launching shotwell with autopilot and autopilot vis21:08
balloonshey thomi.. Letozaf_ is doing such a cool test..21:08
Letozaf_balloons, the button thing does not, but maybe I-m doing something wrong..21:08
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, so did you find the button in the vis tool?21:08
thomihi balloons, Letozaf_, .*21:08
Letozaf_balloons, just a moment I will try it now again21:09
Letozaf_thomi, Hi21:09
* Letozaf_ is updating her laptop21:10
thomiyou may notice that the autopilot input code is changing - if you use the old autopilot.emulators.X11.Keyboard/Mouse classes you will get deprecation warnings printed (but it'll still work).21:10
thomithis is part of the work I'm doing to make autopilot work in places where X11 doesn't21:11
balloonsthomi, since your here.. I see your autopilot session: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/autopilot/+spec/client-1303-autopilot-mobile21:11
thomiso when you get a moment, you should check your tests, and update them if necessary21:11
balloonsthomi, ohh.. adding an abstraction layer?21:11
thomiballoons: exactly.21:11
balloonsany other autopilot sessions planned?21:11
thomiballoons: also planning support for Mir21:11
thomiballoons: no, not at this stage, but if you want to organise a session outside of UDS, I'd be happy to attend21:12
thomi... as long as it's at a sensible time :)21:12
Letozaf_balloons, thomi this is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/558636021:44
thomiLetozaf_: looks like the select_single line didn't find your button. I don't know too much about shotwell - are you sure it's visible/created at the time that code was run?21:45
thomiLetozaf_: you might like to try adding something like this to your test:21:46
thomiself.assertThat(lambda: self.app.select_single('GtkToolButton', label='Import_All'), Eventually(NotEquals(None)))21:46
thomibtn = self.app.select_single('GtkToolButton', label='Import_All')21:46
thomii.e.- wait for that button to exist, possibly shotwell just hasn't been brought up completely yet?21:47
thomi...just a guess....21:47
balloonsgood idea thomi .. Letozaf_ also if you push your current code to an lp branch, I can help run and debug it with you :-)21:48
Letozaf_thomi, thanks but shotwell was opened and the button was visible... but I will check better if it does not work probably something is wrong somewhere as you say21:50
balloonsLetozaf_, I've got a minute now.. push up what you've got for me to run21:50
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:50
Letozaf_balloons, I proposed a merge21:56
balloonsLetozaf_, have a look here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/21:56
balloonsthis will show all the current branches against the project.. I see your branch lp:~carla-sella/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/shotwell-carla21:56
balloonsI can pull from it without you having to merge to the main branch.. all you have to do is commit and then bzr push21:57
balloonsmake sense?21:57
Letozaf_balloons, yes21:57
balloonsso I'll just bzr branch lp:~carla-sella/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/shotwell-carla21:57
balloonskk, running21:57
balloonsoo/.. forgot the camera is needed21:59
balloonsshoot21:59
Letozaf_balloons, :D21:59
balloonscan you push up your umockdev stuff?21:59
Letozaf_balloons, yeah! right!22:00
Letozaf_balloons, but wait a second22:00
Letozaf_balloons, I only have got my camera dump files, I mean that you just need the umockdev ppa to have it22:01
balloonsLetozaf_, right.. but i'm guessing the camera dump wll be needed22:03
balloonsohh look, it has a python module it says22:03
Letozaf_balloons, ok I have two files, just a second I'm thinking the quickest way to let you have them22:04
balloonsI sadly don't have a camera to help. hmm22:04
Letozaf_balloons, I will send you my camera's dump files to use with umockdev22:05
balloonspush it into your branch.. does it have personal info in it?22:06
balloonsI mean the test will have to have such a file distributed with it22:06
Letozaf_balloons, no, no personal info22:06
balloonskk.. I'll wait then pull when it's ready22:08
Letozaf_Letozaf_, I-m pushing22:09
balloonsso with your dump file, I think I can help you use the UMockdevTestbed module inside the python script22:10
balloonsso no subprocess calls22:10
Letozaf_balloons, oh great22:10
Letozaf_balloons, still pushing...22:12
balloonsno worries.. I'm concerned now about python2/python3 issues22:13
balloonsthomi, random question.. any plans to head to python3 for autopilot22:13
balloonsLetozaf_, is the dump file huge?22:15
Letozaf_balloons, yes :(   9.8M22:16
Letozaf_balloons, is that too much ?22:16
balloonsLetozaf_, just wondering ;-)22:16
Letozaf_balloons, and there are only two photos in it :D22:17
balloonslol22:17
Letozaf_balloons, to make it work:  umockdev-run --load mobile.umockdev --ioctl /dev/bus/usb/002/006=mobile.ioctl shotwell22:22
* SergioMeneses is back22:23
Letozaf_and then you click on the camera in shotwell and then click on import all thats it, did not do more22:23
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thomiballoons: it would be a nice thing to do, but nobody has looked into it22:25
thomiballoons: autopilot uses a lot of third party libraries, I wonder how many of them have been ported?22:25
balloonsthomi, hmm.. no idea etheir.. just wondering.. I still mostly code in python222:27
balloonsLetozaf_, ,k, trying22:27
balloonsnothing to pull?22:27
Letozaf_balloons, but I think it's still uploading the dump file22:27
balloonsahh..22:27
balloonsnice22:27
Letozaf_balloons, :(22:27
Letozaf_should I send them to you another way ?22:27
Letozaf_balloons, a quicker way ?22:28
balloonshow close is it? It'll finish I'm sure22:28
Letozaf_balloons, nope! got an error: connection closed  error trying to write to socket.. broken pipe22:29
balloonsohh no fun :-(22:29
Letozaf_balloons, :(22:29
balloonsmaybe email me then?22:30
Letozaf_balloons, ok22:30
balloonssadly I can't see what's going on really without being able to get to that import screen22:34
balloonsyay.. stole my wife's phone.. it's seeing it as a camera22:35
Letozaf_balloons, lol22:36
Letozaf_balloons, let me try to send you these dump files ...22:36
balloonsok, so I can follow this a bit now22:38
balloonslet's see22:38
balloonsok, so I see the issue22:39
balloonsyou need to select the attached camera first22:39
balloonsnotice the button isn't created until you click the attached camera22:39
Letozaf_balloons, yes, couldn-t find it in vis tool :( got lost22:39
Letozaf_balloons, my camera I mean22:40
* balloons loads autopilot vis22:40
balloonstell thomi you want the search feature Letozaf_ :-p22:40
Letozaf_thomi, :D22:41
thomiyeah.... I know :)22:42
thomi"patches welcome"22:42
thomiactually, we're working towards it22:42
balloonsthomi, rofl.. nicely done22:42
thomiwe need to get some code in place before it's possible22:42
Letozaf_balloons, I'm sending the dump files by mail just in case you need them22:43
thomibut... you know how it is... other work gets in the way...22:43
Letozaf_balloons, I must go, it's late !!! :D hope you get the mail with the dump files, I will be back tomorrow night :D22:46
balloonsLetozaf_, wonderful22:46
balloonsshould be a crazy few days22:46
Letozaf_balloons, thomi thanks22:46
balloonsthanks for the dumps22:46
Letozaf_balloons, got them ?22:46
balloonsyep22:46
Letozaf_ok night guys22:46
SergioMenesesballoons, the new code is ready! check it when you can23:09
balloonsya23:10
balloonsmmm23:10
balloonsclose..23:10
balloons<dt> Set the terminal choosing the option "Background Image"</dt> can you clean this up a bit more?23:11
balloonsSergioMeneses, lol.. nevermind sorry23:12
SergioMenesesballoons, but you have <dt>Click on Edit, select Profiles, select Edit and select "Background"</dt> up23:12
balloonsyes.. I missed that lol23:12
SergioMenesesballoons, ++23:12
balloonslooks good mate23:12
SergioMenesesnice23:13
balloonsup it goes23:16
SergioMenesesthe contribution of the day!23:17
balloonsSergioMeneses, indeed :-)23:18
balloonsyour on a roll23:18
balloonsk, it's synced to the tracker now23:18
balloonshey chilicuil23:33
chilicuilhello balloons, welcome back =)23:36
balloonsty.. we23:38
balloonswe23:38
balloonswe'll have to work on the netboot stuff sometime23:38
chilicuilyep, I'll be happy to enter in a loop there to improve them, when I was writing them I though if instrucctions to setup netinstall should be there too, at the end I decided that I would only put the wiki link23:41
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