[00:33] hi all! === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [00:38] hi there o/ [00:39] hey hey chilicuil is here \o === pitti_ is now known as pitti [05:59] Good morning [07:00] Noskcaj, PING [07:00] smartboyhw, sup? [07:00] Noskcaj, heard you going to write one post for Xubuntu:) [07:01] smartboyhw, i might, got a bit of homework build up though. three things due friday, only one started ;) [07:01] Noskcaj, uh. [07:01] Try to:) [07:01] i will. also, i'm trying to make a "bong cooler", google it, it's not what you think [08:07] good morning [08:07] * smartboyhw waves to dholbach [08:07] hi smartboyhw [08:07] good morning [08:07] hey dholbach [08:08] hey pitti, cześ´c zyga [08:08] how do I do the c with ´ on top? [08:09] dholbach: pretty good, it should be after c though, like ć [08:10] zyga, I need to find out how to do it on a German keyboard :) [08:11] dholbach: I think it's already much better than my german, I'm trying to remember how to say 'hello' [08:11] "hallo" :) [08:11] haha, that's easier than I expected [08:11] lol [08:11] don't worry - the rest in German is harder ;-) [08:14] dholbach: quality is not represented on the UDS much this time around [08:15] didn't many sessions get filed? [08:16] dholbach, I'm seriously wondering why balloons didn't add one [08:16] it seems most sessions didn't get scheduled yet [08:17] dholbach: well, it's the number of concurrent sessions that worries me, during normal UDSes even niche sessions that gathered ~5 people had a chance to happen, with the current focus on all the phone/tablet cloud desktop topics and only two days I don't see much time to schedule as many long-tail sessions as we could before [08:17] dholbach: filed vs scheduled metric would be helpful here [08:17] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303 should help there [08:17] zyga, ^ [08:18] for sure 4 days → 2 days will have an impact [08:19] but with 4 vUDSes a year we will probably have to be a bit more focused at the events too [08:19] that's more a general comment, and less specific about QA sessions being filed/scheduled [08:19] I think that we should have at least 1 non-virtual UDS after a LTS release.... [08:19] dholbach, ^ [08:19] dholbach: monday has ~20 sessions, that would put us at a roughly 40-50 sessions per UDS capacity [08:20] monday? [08:20] lol [08:20] dholbach: I hope you are right, I'm afraid that high-focus topics (phone etc) might always consume most of the slots though, they move the fastests and "are" most important for many reasons [08:20] dholbach: so in the end they might starve everything else [08:21] dholbach: I wonder if we could have a alter-UDS page for anyone that wants to have a session (informal) and still associate the recorded video with the rest of UDS [08:21] zyga, if you have important things to talk about and they don't get filed/scheduled, file them and talk to your boss / the relevant track lead to make sure they get on the schedule [08:21] dholbach: I did that, I hope it gets scheduled [08:21] ok good [08:22] dholbach: but we're still inside canonical, community might not be so luchky [08:22] lucky [08:22] and if we find that we need more slots, we should have more slots in the next time [08:22] dholbach: yeah, fair point [08:22] dholbach: we should collect feedback after the event [08:22] smartboyhw, that'd probably be a topic for Mark, Jane and Rick I guess :) [08:22] dholbach, good [08:22] zyga, yes, AFAIK msm is looking into this [08:23] (getting feedback) === zequence_ is now known as zequence [10:58] pitti: hey [11:07] hello vibhav, how are you? [11:10] a bit tired :) [11:10] pitti: Could you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~vibhavp/ubuntu/raring/libg3d/add-autopkgtest/+merge/151341 ? [11:11] pitti: I tested debian/build by sh [11:11] It should work on the VM too [11:11] vibhav: building test bed, will run your branch then; looks good at first sight [11:12] :) [11:15] vibhav: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=701989 [11:15] Debian bug 701989 in src:libiptcdata "libiptcdata: Added DEP-8 tests" [Wishlist,Open] [11:16] vibhav: please don't just send an URL to the preview merge diff, please attach the actual diff as it was merged to the Ubuntu pacakge [11:16] vibhav: this one is missing the XS-Testsuite header, for example [11:17] vibhav: please also forward the libfann patch and [11:18] sure [11:18] vibhav: firestring, too [11:27] vibhav: libg3d works fine, thanks! Please forward to Debian, too [11:27] whoo [11:35] * vibhav realized he got 10 total autopkgtests into ubuntu [11:35] \o/ [11:37] vibhav: very nice! [11:40] :D [11:44] /usr/include/unac.h:78:39: error: unknown type name ‘size_t’ [11:44] Unbelieveable [11:46] pitti: This should be a bug with the header, right? [11:52] vibhav, :) [11:52] vibhav: yes [11:54] * vibhav goes to file bugs [13:02] hello [13:02] anyone could help with autopilot? [13:34] * smartboyhw pings phillw [13:48] smartboyhw: pong [13:51] phillw, if you have enough servers and storage spaces try to go to #ubuntu-gnome and help jbicha to get some daily images for Ubuntu Gnome Remix built (if you are willing to) [13:56] smartboyhw: I'm just using my last spare for some 10.04 server testing, once done I'll make myself known. [13:56] phillw, OK:) [14:19] anyone could help with autopilot? [14:36] havryliuk, sure [14:37] Hey balloons :P [14:37] back in action :-) [14:37] balloons, any UDS sessions for quality? [14:37] yes indeed.. lots to talk about === _salem` is now known as _salem [14:45] baloons, i have got the autopilot itself and successfully ran a sample test, e.g. show desktop [14:45] balloons, GIMME THE BLUEPRINT OF THE UDS QA SESSION [14:45] :P LOL [14:45] havryliuk, excellent.. what's your questions? [14:46] balloons, then i got the helloworld example, trying to run but autopilot cannot see the module helloworld [14:46] havryliuk, are you running quantal or raring? [14:46] balloons, 12.10 [14:46] smartboyhw, gotta draft them up..Trying to catch up on everything and plan, etc [14:47] balloons, it is tmr for god's sake... [14:47] havryliuk, ok, well everything should be working then. What's the error it gives? [14:47] Do we have time to prepare [14:47] ? [14:47] * smartboyhw blames balloons always on holiday on Saturdays [14:47] smartboyhw, of course of course.. Heck it was announced last week [14:47] smartboyhw, I was gone all week buddy :-p [14:47] balloons, uh!? [14:47] off grid [14:47] balloons, I will draft it up with you then [14:47] balloons, oh! jusr ran it and it worked! XD [14:47] You create one first:) [14:48] havryliuk, XD [14:48] balloons, your chat works like magic 8) [14:48] havryliuk, nice :-) Well keep going, but if you get stuck, feel free to just ping. We're happy to help [14:48] havryliuk, you have just witnessed the enormous power of our Canonical Community QA Manager balloons :P [14:48] smartboyhw, lol.. [14:48] * smartboyhw laughs indefinitely:P [14:49] balloons, yeah! thanks - will look more into these autotests and see how i could help with that [14:52] havryliuk, excellent. These links if you haven't seen them may also prove helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases http://qa.ubuntu.com/getting-involved/automated-tests/ === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === mapreri_ is now known as mapreri [16:21] cprofitt: hey! so the UF session is scheduled for Wednesday at 16:00 UTC (11 AM EST) - does that work for you? === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:22] balloons, phillw \o [17:22] morning [17:22] SergioMeneses, hello! [17:22] it's wonderful to be back, and what a week we have ahead of us! [17:23] balloons, is nice to see you again :) [17:23] or read you [17:23] nevermind, balloons can you give a check whit this bug 1141234 [17:23] bug 1141234 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Gnome-terminal test needs clarified" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1141234 [17:29] SergioMeneses, polishing off some emails.. then I'll have a look [17:29] I saw your commit.. We'll chat in a moment about it :-) [17:30] balloons, sure! take your time [17:42] Hello [17:42] I though the adt jobs rerun when a dependency changes? [17:42] a numpy dep changed that fixed it but it didn't run again :( [17:45] hello ajbiz11 [17:46] jtaylor, yes they do run.. was it a first level dependency, or something really nested? [17:46] first level [17:46] dholbach, ^^ [17:46] it has multiple tests, its a dependency of one of them only [17:46] (openblas test) [17:47] SergioMeneses, kk, let's have a look at your changes [17:47] jtaylor, got a link to the test? [17:47] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-numpy/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/24/ [17:48] ajbiz11, jtaylor \o [17:48] pitti, got any idea why https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-numpy/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/24/ was not rerun when a dependency changed? [17:49] jibel does not seem to be around [17:50] dholbach, not sure pitti is around.. maybe :-) === shadeslayer is now known as evilshadeslayer [19:32] phillw, ping [19:34] Noskcaj, howdy [19:35] did you see this perchance? https://code.launchpad.net/~chilicuil/ubuntu-manual-tests/partial-fix-1111814/+merge/150561 [19:35] hi Noskcaj [19:38] phillw, hey, have you got anywhere with the lubuntu installer window theme bug? [19:38] balloons, nope, i'll look now [19:38] Noskcaj, ty.. if you can give those tests a run through and make sure they work for you [19:39] balloons, i should have the time this weekend, if i'm not making a 7-foot bong (google bong cooler, i'm not a stoner) [19:40] Noskcaj: I've been afk most of the time since Thursday, still catching up. [19:41] ok, you may want to check the lubuntu installer then [19:42] I'm going to have another go at 10.04 server for testing, then I'll catch up with other things :) [20:04] Noskcaj, cool [20:04] :) [20:04] is this a swampcooler? [20:04] another name for it/. [20:04] yeah [20:05] ahh I see [20:07] google is a funny place: http://www.overclockers.com/fountain-cooler-5-gallon-bucket-style/ [20:07] anyways, back to it [20:16] balloons: any manual tests need love today? [20:16] howdy komputes! [20:17] how are you dude? [20:17] excellent. Had some lovely disconnected downtime.. Now I'm excitied to be readying for UDS [20:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1132847 [20:17] Launchpad bug 1132847 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: Startup Disk Creator" [Undecided,New] [20:18] That would be a really nice test to have, as you know [20:19] * jtaylor agrees [20:19] the thing breaks to often [20:19] otherwise, just trying to find some time to review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~chilicuil/ubuntu-manual-tests/partial-fix-1111814/+merge/150561 [20:19] indeed.. it seems prone to regressions [20:25] balloons: I'll look into that in a few hours, will you still be on? [20:27] komputes, yes, I will be [20:27] feel free to ping [20:27] will do [20:27] ty :-) [20:34] Letozaf_, hello [20:34] balloons, Hi :D [20:35] balloons, howzit ? [20:41] Letozaf_ busy :-) But very good [20:43] I saw your global jam session videos and photos [20:44] very cool .. looks like you had a great time [20:44] balloons, yeah! it was fun :D [20:44] balloons, hope more followed the hang out [20:44] having non-english resources is helpful [20:45] it's technical work [20:45] balloons, I wasn't sure if I would have had to hold the hang out in English [20:45] balloons, but not all Italians are good with English [20:46] balloons, so I thought it would be better to speak in Italian :D [20:46] yes.. SergioMenesesAFK was considering doing more things in spanish as well.. it's helpful for non-native speakers [20:47] balloons, maybe I should have spoke in English with subtitles in Italian lol [20:47] balloons, yes its true,maybe they can write and read it well, but when it comes to speak it's a bit more difficult === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [20:48] Letozaf_, yes, and many of the words can be technical words.. so they are not basic english words, which can make it worse [20:52] balloons, yes you're right :D [20:55] hey, Letozaf_ :) [20:55] mapreri, Hello! [20:56] mapreri, did you have fun at the Ubuntu Global Jam ? [20:57] Letozaf_: sure, also because I ever wanted to see you in action :) [20:57] mapreri, :D [20:59] balloons, I used umockdev and it worked! but is there a way to use it with autopilot ? [20:59] Letozaf_, so your all set with it yes? [20:59] Yes, we can use it from autopilot :-) [21:00] balloons, yes, well I could do something with shotwell and my camera and then use shotwell without my real camera and use the fake one instead [21:00] Ideally, we'd use it via a python module. But we can start by issuing system calls from python to do it [21:00] have you done this before? [21:01] http://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html [21:01] balloons, well I used a system call with zenity [21:02] yea, I'm assuming you could/would simply executes your commands as needed through system calls to keep your test moving [21:02] do you think that can work based on what you've done? [21:03] balloons, not sure because once I use umockdev and shotwell using a system call and , do you think I could still use introspection ? [21:03] balloons, sorry I wrote quickly :( [21:04] Letozaf_, well is everything you've done on the test committed up? [21:04] balloons, I have not done much as I got stuck on introspection, I wanted to use it with shotwell but it did not work and I spent a lot of time [21:04] balloons, trying to understand why [21:05] balloons, I wanted to use introspection to click on the import all button in shotwell [21:05] balloons, but I get an error [21:05] Letozaf_, ahh.. yea, I think so things have progressed along by now.. if it still doesn't work we can ask the autopilot guys [21:05] I really want to hack on this with you ;-) But I'm doing UDS planning stuff [21:06] balloons, I can immagine you are quite busy for UDS, do you want me to wait for you or try something on my own ? [21:06] Letozaf_, have at it.. try the introspection thing again quickly and see if it just works now or not [21:07] balloons, ok [21:07] I quickly tried autopilot launch shotwell [21:07] and autopilot vis.. [21:07] it worked, so introspection should work fine [21:07] :) [21:08] balloons, yes that works I mean launching shotwell with autopilot and autopilot vis [21:08] hey thomi.. Letozaf_ is doing such a cool test.. [21:08] balloons, the button thing does not, but maybe I-m doing something wrong.. [21:08] Letozaf_, ok, so did you find the button in the vis tool? [21:08] hi balloons, Letozaf_, .* [21:09] balloons, just a moment I will try it now again [21:09] thomi, Hi [21:10] * Letozaf_ is updating her laptop [21:10] you may notice that the autopilot input code is changing - if you use the old autopilot.emulators.X11.Keyboard/Mouse classes you will get deprecation warnings printed (but it'll still work). [21:11] this is part of the work I'm doing to make autopilot work in places where X11 doesn't [21:11] thomi, since your here.. I see your autopilot session: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/autopilot/+spec/client-1303-autopilot-mobile [21:11] so when you get a moment, you should check your tests, and update them if necessary [21:11] thomi, ohh.. adding an abstraction layer? [21:11] balloons: exactly. [21:11] any other autopilot sessions planned? [21:11] balloons: also planning support for Mir [21:12] balloons: no, not at this stage, but if you want to organise a session outside of UDS, I'd be happy to attend [21:12] ... as long as it's at a sensible time :) [21:44] balloons, thomi this is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5586360 [21:45] Letozaf_: looks like the select_single line didn't find your button. I don't know too much about shotwell - are you sure it's visible/created at the time that code was run? [21:46] Letozaf_: you might like to try adding something like this to your test: [21:46] self.assertThat(lambda: self.app.select_single('GtkToolButton', label='Import_All'), Eventually(NotEquals(None))) [21:46] btn = self.app.select_single('GtkToolButton', label='Import_All') [21:47] i.e.- wait for that button to exist, possibly shotwell just hasn't been brought up completely yet? [21:47] ...just a guess.... [21:48] good idea thomi .. Letozaf_ also if you push your current code to an lp branch, I can help run and debug it with you :-) [21:50] thomi, thanks but shotwell was opened and the button was visible... but I will check better if it does not work probably something is wrong somewhere as you say [21:50] Letozaf_, I've got a minute now.. push up what you've got for me to run [21:50] balloons, ok [21:56] balloons, I proposed a merge [21:56] Letozaf_, have a look here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ [21:56] this will show all the current branches against the project.. I see your branch lp:~carla-sella/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/shotwell-carla [21:57] I can pull from it without you having to merge to the main branch.. all you have to do is commit and then bzr push [21:57] make sense? [21:57] balloons, yes [21:57] so I'll just bzr branch lp:~carla-sella/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/shotwell-carla [21:57] kk, running [21:59] oo/.. forgot the camera is needed [21:59] shoot [21:59] balloons, :D [21:59] can you push up your umockdev stuff? [22:00] balloons, yeah! right! [22:00] balloons, but wait a second [22:01] balloons, I only have got my camera dump files, I mean that you just need the umockdev ppa to have it [22:03] Letozaf_, right.. but i'm guessing the camera dump wll be needed [22:03] ohh look, it has a python module it says [22:04] balloons, ok I have two files, just a second I'm thinking the quickest way to let you have them [22:04] I sadly don't have a camera to help. hmm [22:05] balloons, I will send you my camera's dump files to use with umockdev [22:06] push it into your branch.. does it have personal info in it? [22:06] I mean the test will have to have such a file distributed with it [22:06] balloons, no, no personal info [22:08] kk.. I'll wait then pull when it's ready [22:09] Letozaf_, I-m pushing [22:10] so with your dump file, I think I can help you use the UMockdevTestbed module inside the python script [22:10] so no subprocess calls [22:10] balloons, oh great [22:12] balloons, still pushing... [22:13] no worries.. I'm concerned now about python2/python3 issues [22:13] thomi, random question.. any plans to head to python3 for autopilot [22:15] Letozaf_, is the dump file huge? [22:16] balloons, yes :( 9.8M [22:16] balloons, is that too much ? [22:16] Letozaf_, just wondering ;-) [22:17] balloons, and there are only two photos in it :D [22:17] lol [22:22] balloons, to make it work: umockdev-run --load mobile.umockdev --ioctl /dev/bus/usb/002/006=mobile.ioctl shotwell [22:23] * SergioMeneses is back [22:23] and then you click on the camera in shotwell and then click on import all thats it, did not do more === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:25] balloons: it would be a nice thing to do, but nobody has looked into it [22:25] balloons: autopilot uses a lot of third party libraries, I wonder how many of them have been ported? [22:27] thomi, hmm.. no idea etheir.. just wondering.. I still mostly code in python2 [22:27] Letozaf_, ,k, trying [22:27] nothing to pull? [22:27] balloons, but I think it's still uploading the dump file [22:27] ahh.. [22:27] nice [22:27] balloons, :( [22:27] should I send them to you another way ? [22:28] balloons, a quicker way ? [22:28] how close is it? It'll finish I'm sure [22:29] balloons, nope! got an error: connection closed error trying to write to socket.. broken pipe [22:29] ohh no fun :-( [22:29] balloons, :( [22:30] maybe email me then? [22:30] balloons, ok [22:34] sadly I can't see what's going on really without being able to get to that import screen [22:35] yay.. stole my wife's phone.. it's seeing it as a camera [22:36] balloons, lol [22:36] balloons, let me try to send you these dump files ... [22:38] ok, so I can follow this a bit now [22:38] let's see [22:39] ok, so I see the issue [22:39] you need to select the attached camera first [22:39] notice the button isn't created until you click the attached camera [22:39] balloons, yes, couldn-t find it in vis tool :( got lost [22:40] balloons, my camera I mean [22:40] * balloons loads autopilot vis [22:40] tell thomi you want the search feature Letozaf_ :-p [22:41] thomi, :D [22:42] yeah.... I know :) [22:42] "patches welcome" [22:42] actually, we're working towards it [22:42] thomi, rofl.. nicely done [22:42] we need to get some code in place before it's possible [22:43] balloons, I'm sending the dump files by mail just in case you need them [22:43] but... you know how it is... other work gets in the way... [22:46] balloons, I must go, it's late !!! :D hope you get the mail with the dump files, I will be back tomorrow night :D [22:46] Letozaf_, wonderful [22:46] should be a crazy few days [22:46] balloons, thomi thanks [22:46] thanks for the dumps [22:46] balloons, got them ? [22:46] yep [22:46] ok night guys [23:09] balloons, the new code is ready! check it when you can [23:10] ya [23:10] mmm [23:10] close.. [23:11]

Set the terminal choosing the option "Background Image"

can you clean this up a bit more? [23:12] SergioMeneses, lol.. nevermind sorry [23:12] balloons, but you have

Click on Edit, select Profiles, select Edit and select "Background"

up [23:12] yes.. I missed that lol [23:12] balloons, ++ [23:12] looks good mate [23:13] nice [23:16] up it goes [23:17] the contribution of the day! [23:18] SergioMeneses, indeed :-) [23:18] your on a roll [23:18] k, it's synced to the tracker now [23:33] hey chilicuil [23:36] hello balloons, welcome back =) [23:38] ty.. we [23:38] we [23:38] we'll have to work on the netboot stuff sometime [23:41] yep, I'll be happy to enter in a loop there to improve them, when I was writing them I though if instrucctions to setup netinstall should be there too, at the end I decided that I would only put the wiki link === evilshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer