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* ogra_ wonders why grub-probe runs (and fails indeed) during the edubuntu builds01:03
cjwatsonThe kernel packages are being installed in the wrong phase01:05
cjwatsonI haven't worked out why yet01:05
cjwatsonWas vaguely on my list to care about tomorrow01:06
ogra_ah, its the first time i bothered to scroll down in the log :)01:07
ogra_they roll in since a while already01:07
cjwatsonYeah01:07
cjwatsonI guess it's a new dependency somewhere or similar01:07
cjwatsonBut just a guess01:07
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ogra_hmpf, so whats libcolorhug1 and why does it break all images for all arches :P09:02
infinityIt's hugging your images until they suffocate?09:04
ogra_lol09:04
ogra_i see doko fixed anothetr issue with colord ... and RAOF before him ... neither of them seems to have touched that dep though09:05
infinityNothing depends on libcolorhug...09:05
* infinity goes to look at logs.09:05
infinityOh, curious.  I guess colord did for a while.09:08
ogra_well, it surely did when the image builds ran :)09:09
infinityHrm, yes, my laptop's living slightly in the past.09:11
infinityThen again, libcolorhug1 is now in main.09:12
infinitySo, I guess that got fixed this morning.09:13
infinityProbably just more fallout from the override-loss-on-migration bug. :/09:13
ogra_ok09:14
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brendandwill there be a freeze this friday, or are things being modified for the rolling release?11:12
tumbleweedbrendand: I have no idea11:13
xnoxbrendand: we will have uds tomorrow and on wednesday, i'd expect things to be cleared up by thursday.11:13
ogra_yeah11:13
ogra_UDS should tell11:13
tumbleweedxnox: there's no relevent discussion in the UDS schedule, though11:13
xnoxhm?!11:14
tumbleweedam I blind?11:14
ogra_https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303 has things like monthly milestones etc11:14
ogra_which clearly is rolling related11:14
seb128monthly snapshot is wednesday at 2pm11:15
tumbleweedhrm, I swear it wasn't scheduled when I looked earlier11:16
xnoxthere is: foundations-1303-monthly-snapshots11:16
xnoxand rolling-kernel spec.11:16
ogra_and "rolling kernel maintenance"11:16
seb128tumbleweed, yeah, I just did a bunch of scheduling, no client session was scheduled either11:16
ogra_heh11:16
ogra_snap11:16
seb128most of the sessions are on the schedule now11:16
seb128let me know if any is missing11:16
LaneyI thought the rolling thing was officially still a proposal11:17
tumbleweedyet all the sessions on tuesday assume it's happening11:17
smartboyhwtumbleweed, what?11:18
smartboyhwhmm11:18
smartboyhwIt should STILL be officially a proposal to the Ubuntu community....11:18
seb128it's a proposal11:18
seb128it doesn't prevent to discuss details of how things should be adapted to make that happen11:19
LaneyI mean that I'd expect a session like "should we move to a rolling/LTS release model?"11:19
seb128is that really something that can happen in a session?11:20
LaneyUDS is the typical venue for such discussions11:20
xnoxproposals without action plans are not proposals but wishful thinking.11:20
seb128seems like an endless discussion with too many people having different opinions that will never give any concrete output11:20
tumbleweedgiven the limitations of G+ hangouts, I'm not too concerned about that possibility11:20
seb128Laney, well, UDS is the right venue, but you better want to split that in subtopics11:20
Laneyanyway, we need to know by Thursday whether Feature Freeze is happening11:21
seb128right11:21
tumbleweedseb128: I'd have expected a session like Laney describes to be the first thing on the agenda, with split-out sessions being scheduled from it11:21
* ogra_ only saw positive feedback for rolling everywhere ... apart from the flavours on ubuntu-devel 11:21
seb128tumbleweed, anyone is welcome to create a blueprint11:21
tumbleweedwe have, of course, already had a lot of discussion so we know many of the details we want to talk about11:21
seb128tumbleweed, seems like nobody did so far, that includes you ;-)11:22
tumbleweedfair, but I'm not the one driving this11:22
seb128e.g feel free to create one I would say11:22
seb128who is?11:22
tumbleweedrick?11:22
seb128right, maybe ping him when he gets online11:23
tumbleweedthough, I guess if canonical is convinced that they aren't supporting non-LTS releases, there's not much to discuss11:23
seb128seems like it would be easy to add that session in the first foundation slot11:24
seb128and move the +1 one to 6pm11:24
LaneyRiddell: are you going to be around for this UDS/11:25
LaneyI think that it would be a really good idea to have a flavours/rolling session ...11:25
ogra_++11:25
RiddellLaney: I guess so11:27
RiddellLaney: it's on my todo list for today to work out what session kubuntu needs11:28
Laneyfair11:28
RiddellLaney: if you register one that'll shorten my todo list :)11:28
LaneyI just expect it's something that would benefit from some pushing from your end11:28
Laneywell I'd rather not as I'm not involved with any flavour11:28
Laneyother than being concerned for their success ;-)11:29
Riddellfair enough11:29
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xnoxare the "daily CD heath check" mini-reports published on p.c.c/~ubuntu-archive/ somewhere? at least as a single file which gets updated similar to raring_probs?13:15
ogra_xnox, i think they are only maikled by default13:23
ogra_*mailed13:23
xnoxogra_:  it would be nice to "| tee somewhere/health-check.txt |" in whatever mails it ;-)13:26
ogra_livecd-rootfs, feel free to hack :)13:26
ogra_in the BuildLiveCD script13:27
cjwatsonEh, no, it's not in BuildLiveCD13:49
cjwatsonit's in lp:ubuntu-cdimage bin/daily-checks13:49
cjwatsonYou're thinking of the livefs build failure mails13:50
ogra_cjwatson, oops, yeah, sorry13:54
dobeyhi all. any chance we could get the tomboy SRUs for bug #1115460 pushed to updates today? i know it's not quite 7 days yet, but would be nice to get it pushed out to reduce the chances of people trying to set up notes sync with a server that won't exist in a couple days.15:00
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1115460 in tomboy (Ubuntu Quantal) "Ubuntu One notes sync is going away" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111546015:00
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tseliotinfinity: hi, can you approve nvidia-graphics-drivers-313-updates and nvidia-settings-313-updates in NEW, please?17:15
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antaruscjwatson: why do all the Ubuntu announcements make me a sad panda?19:47
slangasekany SRU members around who could look at the apt in precise?  It's needed to fix the mess that the lts-quantal stack made of things for multiarch20:46
slangasek(precise-proposed unapproved queue)20:47
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blitzkrieg3Is anyone on the SRU team able to move bug 780602 to Fix Released?20:59
ubot2`Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78060221:00
blitzkrieg3I've verified that the memory leak is plugged21:00
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infinityslangasek: Accepted, and thanks for following up with the auto-remove fix, I was about to do the same thing. ;)22:56
infinityslangasek: I can haz the same upload to Q, or should I do that one myself when I wake up?23:02
slangasekinfinity: well, I'm regarding it as lower priority for quantal23:03
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slangasekblitzkrieg3: looking over the bug log for bug #780602, there's a comment from bdmurray about an NM crash that happens only with the precise-proposed version23:56
ubot2`Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78060223:56
slangasekblitzkrieg3: so if there's a regression, we don't really want to publish it...23:56
blitzkrieg3slangasek: yes, but cyphermox says it's unrelated23:56
blitzkrieg3slangasek: if we can't publish it, can we pull it?23:57
bdmurrayslangasek: I'm fine with publishing it23:57
slangasekblitzkrieg3: where has he said that?  it's not in the bug log23:57
blitzkrieg3slangasek: I know, it was over irx23:57
blitzkrieg3irc23:57
slangasekI would prefer to have these comments in the historical record :)23:58
blitzkrieg3slangasek: it's funny, I was just complaining earlier today how no one puts enough info into lp23:59
blitzkrieg3slangasek: if it makes sense I'll circle back with cyphermox and bdmurray and tell them to update the bug23:59

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