[01:03]  * ogra_ wonders why grub-probe runs (and fails indeed) during the edubuntu builds
[01:05] <cjwatson> The kernel packages are being installed in the wrong phase
[01:05] <cjwatson> I haven't worked out why yet
[01:06] <cjwatson> Was vaguely on my list to care about tomorrow
[01:07] <ogra_> ah, its the first time i bothered to scroll down in the log :)
[01:07] <ogra_> they roll in since a while already
[01:07] <cjwatson> Yeah
[01:07] <cjwatson> I guess it's a new dependency somewhere or similar
[01:07] <cjwatson> But just a guess
[09:02] <ogra_> hmpf, so whats libcolorhug1 and why does it break all images for all arches :P
[09:04] <infinity> It's hugging your images until they suffocate?
[09:04] <ogra_> lol
[09:05] <ogra_> i see doko fixed anothetr issue with colord ... and RAOF before him ... neither of them seems to have touched that dep though
[09:05] <infinity> Nothing depends on libcolorhug...
[09:05]  * infinity goes to look at logs.
[09:08] <infinity> Oh, curious.  I guess colord did for a while.
[09:09] <ogra_> well, it surely did when the image builds ran :)
[09:11] <infinity> Hrm, yes, my laptop's living slightly in the past.
[09:12] <infinity> Then again, libcolorhug1 is now in main.
[09:13] <infinity> So, I guess that got fixed this morning.
[09:13] <infinity> Probably just more fallout from the override-loss-on-migration bug. :/
[09:14] <ogra_> ok
[11:12] <brendand> will there be a freeze this friday, or are things being modified for the rolling release?
[11:13] <tumbleweed> brendand: I have no idea
[11:13] <xnox> brendand: we will have uds tomorrow and on wednesday, i'd expect things to be cleared up by thursday.
[11:13] <ogra_> yeah
[11:13] <ogra_> UDS should tell
[11:13] <tumbleweed> xnox: there's no relevent discussion in the UDS schedule, though
[11:14] <xnox> hm?!
[11:14] <tumbleweed> am I blind?
[11:14] <ogra_> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303 has things like monthly milestones etc
[11:14] <ogra_> which clearly is rolling related
[11:15] <seb128> monthly snapshot is wednesday at 2pm
[11:16] <tumbleweed> hrm, I swear it wasn't scheduled when I looked earlier
[11:16] <xnox> there is: foundations-1303-monthly-snapshots
[11:16] <xnox> and rolling-kernel spec.
[11:16] <ogra_> and "rolling kernel maintenance"
[11:16] <seb128> tumbleweed, yeah, I just did a bunch of scheduling, no client session was scheduled either
[11:16] <ogra_> heh
[11:16] <ogra_> snap
[11:16] <seb128> most of the sessions are on the schedule now
[11:16] <seb128> let me know if any is missing
[11:17] <Laney> I thought the rolling thing was officially still a proposal
[11:17] <tumbleweed> yet all the sessions on tuesday assume it's happening
[11:18] <smartboyhw> tumbleweed, what?
[11:18] <smartboyhw> hmm
[11:18] <smartboyhw> It should STILL be officially a proposal to the Ubuntu community....
[11:18] <seb128> it's a proposal
[11:19] <seb128> it doesn't prevent to discuss details of how things should be adapted to make that happen
[11:19] <Laney> I mean that I'd expect a session like "should we move to a rolling/LTS release model?"
[11:20] <seb128> is that really something that can happen in a session?
[11:20] <Laney> UDS is the typical venue for such discussions
[11:20] <xnox> proposals without action plans are not proposals but wishful thinking.
[11:20] <seb128> seems like an endless discussion with too many people having different opinions that will never give any concrete output
[11:20] <tumbleweed> given the limitations of G+ hangouts, I'm not too concerned about that possibility
[11:20] <seb128> Laney, well, UDS is the right venue, but you better want to split that in subtopics
[11:21] <Laney> anyway, we need to know by Thursday whether Feature Freeze is happening
[11:21] <seb128> right
[11:21] <tumbleweed> seb128: I'd have expected a session like Laney describes to be the first thing on the agenda, with split-out sessions being scheduled from it
[11:21]  * ogra_ only saw positive feedback for rolling everywhere ... apart from the flavours on ubuntu-devel 
[11:21] <seb128> tumbleweed, anyone is welcome to create a blueprint
[11:21] <tumbleweed> we have, of course, already had a lot of discussion so we know many of the details we want to talk about
[11:22] <seb128> tumbleweed, seems like nobody did so far, that includes you ;-)
[11:22] <tumbleweed> fair, but I'm not the one driving this
[11:22] <seb128> e.g feel free to create one I would say
[11:22] <seb128> who is?
[11:22] <tumbleweed> rick?
[11:23] <seb128> right, maybe ping him when he gets online
[11:23] <tumbleweed> though, I guess if canonical is convinced that they aren't supporting non-LTS releases, there's not much to discuss
[11:24] <seb128> seems like it would be easy to add that session in the first foundation slot
[11:24] <seb128> and move the +1 one to 6pm
[11:25] <Laney> Riddell: are you going to be around for this UDS/
[11:25] <Laney> I think that it would be a really good idea to have a flavours/rolling session ...
[11:25] <ogra_> ++
[11:27] <Riddell> Laney: I guess so
[11:28] <Riddell> Laney: it's on my todo list for today to work out what session kubuntu needs
[11:28] <Laney> fair
[11:28] <Riddell> Laney: if you register one that'll shorten my todo list :)
[11:28] <Laney> I just expect it's something that would benefit from some pushing from your end
[11:28] <Laney> well I'd rather not as I'm not involved with any flavour
[11:29] <Laney> other than being concerned for their success ;-)
[11:29] <Riddell> fair enough
[13:15] <xnox> are the "daily CD heath check" mini-reports published on p.c.c/~ubuntu-archive/ somewhere? at least as a single file which gets updated similar to raring_probs?
[13:23] <ogra_> xnox, i think they are only maikled by default
[13:23] <ogra_> *mailed
[13:26] <xnox> ogra_:  it would be nice to "| tee somewhere/health-check.txt |" in whatever mails it ;-)
[13:26] <ogra_> livecd-rootfs, feel free to hack :)
[13:27] <ogra_> in the BuildLiveCD script
[13:49] <cjwatson> Eh, no, it's not in BuildLiveCD
[13:49] <cjwatson> it's in lp:ubuntu-cdimage bin/daily-checks
[13:50] <cjwatson> You're thinking of the livefs build failure mails
[13:54] <ogra_> cjwatson, oops, yeah, sorry
[15:00] <dobey> hi all. any chance we could get the tomboy SRUs for bug #1115460 pushed to updates today? i know it's not quite 7 days yet, but would be nice to get it pushed out to reduce the chances of people trying to set up notes sync with a server that won't exist in a couple days.
[15:00] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1115460 in tomboy (Ubuntu Quantal) "Ubuntu One notes sync is going away" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115460
[17:15] <tseliot> infinity: hi, can you approve nvidia-graphics-drivers-313-updates and nvidia-settings-313-updates in NEW, please?
[19:47] <antarus> cjwatson: why do all the Ubuntu announcements make me a sad panda?
[20:46] <slangasek> any SRU members around who could look at the apt in precise?  It's needed to fix the mess that the lts-quantal stack made of things for multiarch
[20:47] <slangasek> (precise-proposed unapproved queue)
[20:59] <blitzkrieg3> Is anyone on the SRU team able to move bug 780602 to Fix Released?
[21:00] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780602
[21:00] <blitzkrieg3> I've verified that the memory leak is plugged
[22:56] <infinity> slangasek: Accepted, and thanks for following up with the auto-remove fix, I was about to do the same thing. ;)
[23:02] <infinity> slangasek: I can haz the same upload to Q, or should I do that one myself when I wake up?
[23:03] <slangasek> infinity: well, I'm regarding it as lower priority for quantal
[23:56] <slangasek> blitzkrieg3: looking over the bug log for bug #780602, there's a comment from bdmurray about an NM crash that happens only with the precise-proposed version
[23:56] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780602
[23:56] <slangasek> blitzkrieg3: so if there's a regression, we don't really want to publish it...
[23:56] <blitzkrieg3> slangasek: yes, but cyphermox says it's unrelated
[23:57] <blitzkrieg3> slangasek: if we can't publish it, can we pull it?
[23:57] <bdmurray> slangasek: I'm fine with publishing it
[23:57] <slangasek> blitzkrieg3: where has he said that?  it's not in the bug log
[23:57] <blitzkrieg3> slangasek: I know, it was over irx
[23:57] <blitzkrieg3> irc
[23:58] <slangasek> I would prefer to have these comments in the historical record :)
[23:59] <blitzkrieg3> slangasek: it's funny, I was just complaining earlier today how no one puts enough info into lp
[23:59] <blitzkrieg3> slangasek: if it makes sense I'll circle back with cyphermox and bdmurray and tell them to update the bug