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| chris4585 | apparently ubuntu will be moving away from x and wayland | 19:24 |
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| wrst | chris4585: just saw that also | 19:26 |
| chris4585 | not sure how I feel about this, but I just hope all the existing applications can work with it | 19:28 |
| chris4585 | otherwise I see ubuntu digging a hole in the ground | 19:28 |
| wrst | yes | 19:30 |
| wrst | agreed | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | I'm not impressed at all, but it is supposed to have an X compatibility layer in October '13 | 19:30 |
| wrst | not for sure what i think exactly will be interesting for sure | 19:30 |
| chris4585 | I'm not really concerned though | 19:34 |
| wrst | nah i can always just use arch :) | 19:34 |
| chris4585 | exactly :) | 19:36 |
| chris4585 | I'm not sure how that will go with nvidia / amd drivers | 19:36 |
| wrst | i really think the ubuntu rolling might really work well for me | 19:37 |
| chris4585 | I doubt they would make such a switch without taking care of something like that first | 19:37 |
| chris4585 | oh yeah I heard about that, I hope they do it | 19:37 |
| Unit193 | 13.04 is too soon, and wouldn't go well for the flavors. :/ | 19:41 |
| wrst | Unit193: they don't care about the flavors, or likely even ubuntu so much as the desktop goes they are drunk on mobile | 19:42 |
| Unit193 | wrst: I know they don't. | 19:42 |
| wrst | so might as well look for another distro :) | 19:43 |
| * wrst migth not should say that here | 19:43 | |
| Unit193 | Always have a backup plan, but I don't feel like migrating stuff. :P | 19:43 |
| wrst | its all linux | 19:48 |
| chris4585 | yep | 19:50 |
| chris4585 | I'm happy on manjaro | 19:51 |
| chris4585 | the new gnome if I'm not mistake actually has a menu similar to cinnamon now | 19:51 |
| wrst | Unit193: here you go http://www.thepowerbase.com/2013/03/gamer-rewrites-valves-steam-installer-for-debian/ | 19:52 |
| wrst | chris4585: its available | 19:52 |
| wrst | not going to be default | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | I'll read it, but can't run steam. ;) | 19:52 |
| wrst | Unit193: why not? | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | Weak computer, same reason for staying away from Arch. | 19:53 |
| wrst | ahh well if you have a weak computer thats all the more reason to use arch | 19:53 |
| wrst | arch with xfce and you can run that on a calculator from 1982 | 19:53 |
| chris4585 | lol | 19:53 |
| chris4585 | arch + openbox <3 | 19:53 |
| wrst | if you have a a weak computer whay are you using any Ubuntu???? | 19:54 |
| chris4585 | wrst, manjaro came out with an openbox flavor and I haven't tried it yet, but I'm willing to bet its better than archbang | 19:54 |
| wrst | seems to be a pretty popular distro... I'm just a traditionalist I want to get arch working the right way, by banging my head against a brick wall | 19:54 |
| wrst | actually I can have it installed nearly as quickly as ubuntu with a desktop, no where near as complete but its running | 19:55 |
| wrst | Unit193: really if you are on less powerful hardware and with your knowledge why do you use ubuntu? | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | Because it runs well on it? I'd dip into aur way too much for it to be sane. :P | 19:55 |
| chris4585 | that isn't really my kind of fun anymore tbh, I'm really loving manjaro, I believe they making a installer similar to ubuntu's | 19:55 |
| chris4585 | lol | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Debian, except it doesn't care as much about open source or not. | 19:56 |
| wrst | Unit193: what is the difference in running the AUR vs a PPA other than the AUR stuff if you use a helper like yaourt is much cleaner? | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | I don't generally use a ton of PPAs, and you compile AUR. | 19:57 |
| wrst | not necessarily | 19:57 |
| chris4585 | not everything compiles, like themes and such, which is one reason I love aur, have the latest themes, without adding stupid ppas lol | 19:58 |
| wrst | me too chris4585 | 19:59 |
| wrst | ppas can get out of hand pretty quickly | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | chris4585: That's called git pull for me. :P | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Quite a lot of them aren't good. | 20:00 |
| chris4585 | whatever works for you | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Yep, but this is a nice talk about differences. | 20:01 |
| chris4585 | well that is another thing I do like about aur, they usually have the git or bzr version listed | 20:02 |
| wrst | Unit193: yeah and lots of AUR packages aren't good either its a little but of a gamble for either really | 20:02 |
| chris4585 | so its nice and simple, no searching on http | 20:02 |
| chris4585 | that is true, but usually there is a work around in the forums | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | I have my handy little PPA up too, for my own stuff that I update, so it's handy for me. :P | 20:03 |
| wrst | you could do the same in the AUR ;) | 20:03 |
| wrst | but yeah i think both have their issues and going out of repos for anything is not desired | 20:04 |
| chris4585 | eeh, not to be a downer, but I'm glad I cut ubuntu off a while ago, I just didn't like the direction its been going to, I wouldn't mind using it with cinnamon or just mint though | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | Mint, ewww.... :P Cinnamon is in the main repo for 13.04, if there is one. | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | chris4585: And what works for you, works for you. Glad you found whatever it may be. | 20:07 |
| chris4585 | yes, I'm quite happy | 20:08 |
| chris4585 | :) | 20:08 |
| wrst | yeah chris4585 I'm using it now but think I will likely go back to arch soon for my distro to work on | 20:11 |
| chris4585 | good luck lol | 20:13 |
| chris4585 | I think if ubuntu is successful with this on tablets first and then attempts to try it on desktops it may be a better solution than x, but we will see.. | 20:13 |
| wrst | I agree, but that is a huge if | 20:24 |
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