[00:00] <Degru> javi_: Or you type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:00] <javi_> ohh okay then.. but what if i want to run a program but ubuntu says its not safe?
[00:00] <zimzum77> jackarg, switch back to win for a moment and dosome research, you should be able to run on your chipset
[00:00] <jbuncher> Just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and I can't get the "Set Up Mail...." entry in the messaging-menu to change to what it should be for thunderbird (thunderbird was already set up in 10.04).  I have tried reinstalling thunderbird and thunderbird-globalmenu, uninstalling evolution, logging in and out, and restarting with no luck.  Thoughts?
[00:00] <Degru> you type in "chmod +x program"
[00:00] <Random832> javi_: the error you got was misleading because the file you downloaded wasn't actually the program
[00:00] <jackarg> zimzum77 I don't have windows. I failed dual booting
[00:00] <Random832> it wouldn't have worked even if you did chmod +x it
[00:00] <Degru> javi_: replace program with the filename
[00:00] <zimzum77> then you see, it 'll work for you jackarg
[00:01] <zimzum77> oh crap
[00:01] <jackarg> :)
[00:01] <jackarg> yea, I suck.
[00:01] <zimzum77> peace bro
[00:01] <Degru> javi_: but for flash you do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer".
[00:01] <zimzum77> haha nahhhh
[00:01] <jackarg> I can use another comp in the house though
[00:01] <jackarg> ok bye
[00:02] <indigo_glow> jackarg, more than one way to skin a cat. you can do it with out reinstalling but if you feel that you would be better off reinstalling you can do that as well but its all up to you.. you'll have to re install all of those packkages again
[00:04] <javi_> okay i know the difference but im tryin to run a program that i kniw is runnable with java on ubuntu because it works perfectly fine on my windows computer but its meant for ubuntu
[00:05] <javi_> i need a bypass
[00:05] <Degru> javi_: Do you have java? run "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" and then run "java -jar program.jar" to start the program.
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> javi_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:07] <Degru> ntzrmtthihu777: already told him that twice
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> oop, day late dollar short
[00:08] <zimzum77> nobody got any music??
[00:08] <zimzum77> nothing better than geeking with music
[00:08] <Degru> zimzum77: what do you mean
[00:09] <javi_> how do i run sudoapt blah blah
[00:09] <end_guy> javi_: in the terminal
[00:09] <Degru> javi_: open the program called terminal and type it there.
[00:09] <javi_> wheres the terminal?
[00:09] <zimzum77> Degru, i mean this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A
[00:10] <end_guy> javi_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:10] <javi_> 12,10
[00:10] <javi_> 12.10
[00:10] <Degru> javi_: press start and type terminal
[00:10] <end_guy> javi_: Hit the windows key and start typing terminal
[00:11] <javi_> trash keeps poppin up
[00:12] <zimzum77> is there  good equalizer for ubuntu??
[00:12] <javi_> got it
[00:12] <javi_>  okay what next
[00:12] <end_guy> type in your command...
[00:12] <Degru> javi_: now type in the commands in the terminal, if it asks you for a password type your password.
[00:12] <end_guy> the sudo apt-get command they told you to run
[00:12] <docmur> exit
[00:12] <javi_> copy and paste?
[00:12] <end_guy> yep
[00:12] <scoob> Hi, I'm on ubuntu server 12.04 on ESXi 5.1.0. I've got a usb wireless network card plugged into my host and it's passed through to a guest. I can see if on ifconfig -a however I can't bring it up and rfkill list shows its hard blocked. I've tried to unblock via rfkill for no luck.
[00:13] <scoob> Some forum posts lead me to believe it may be an ubuntu issue
[00:13] <scoob> Any ideas?
[00:13] <end_guy> javi_: You might be better off using ubuntu software center from now on. It'll be in your applications, or you can find it just like you did the terminal.
[00:14] <Degru> javi_: Yes. You can look for stuff in there. flash, java, etc. should all be there
[00:17] <javi_> okay now its says "The file '/home/javi/Downloads/UnBrickableResurrectorR40.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[00:17] <scoob> You can't execute a file unless it's marked as executable. Try chmod +x <file>
[00:17] <javi_> in terminal?
[00:17] <TOSLinux> Hi
[00:17] <scoob> mhm
[00:17] <end_guy> javi_: in terminal type chmod +x /home/javi/Downloads/UnBrickableResurrectorR40.jar
[00:18] <TOSLinux> someone can help me?
[00:18] <scoob> What's up?
[00:18] <TOSLinux> lookç
[00:18] <end_guy> TOSLinux: That's undetermined. Someone can try to help you though.
[00:18] <javi_> its not doing anything?
[00:18] <Degru> javi_: it's not supposed to show output.
[00:19] <end_guy> javi_: it's just silent feedback, it means it worked
[00:19] <TOSLinux> goof
[00:19] <Degru> javi_: now try the java -jar blahblah.jar thing again
[00:19] <end_guy> try to execute that file again
[00:19] <TOSLinux> *good
[00:19] <TOSLinux> look
[00:19] <javi_> okay i will try
[00:19] <scoob> Any ideas about my wlan issue?
[00:19] <TOSLinux> end_guy: what version of Ubuntu choice?
[00:20] <TOSLinux> ps: my native language is spanish
[00:20] <javi_> THANK YOOOUUU!!!!!!!!!!
[00:20] <Degru> scoob: Last wlan issue I dealt with was shitty broadcom drivers
[00:20] <scoob> Degru: Hrm, I think that if it's actually an OS issue it'd be a logic thing, but I can be wrong.
[00:20] <scoob> Degru: Trying to decide if it's an ESX problem or Ubuntu issue
[00:21] <end_guy> TOSLinux: 12.10
[00:21] <TOSLinux> end_guy: because?
[00:21] <Degru> scoob: Well, I have no experience with wlan stuff. Most installs had working drivers and the only one I had trouble with was broadcom
[00:21] <TOSLinux> end_guy: the battery in the 12.10 version is bad duration
[00:22] <scoob> Degru: Ah. This same card worked on a 12.04 desktop install with no issue
[00:22] <scoob> Leads me to believe it's likely not a driver issue
[00:23] <end_guy> TOSLinux: what kind of computer do you have? You should first turn down the screen brightness until you can just barley make things out, and then throttle your CPU down.
[00:23] <TOSLinux> end_guy: despite using (pcie_aspm=force and acpiosi=Linux in grub and Jupiter applet) <--
[00:24] <Degru> scoob: Then you should probably use 12.04 since it's the LTS, especially if it's a server.
[00:24] <Degru> scoob: I only installed 12.10 because it fixed my AMD graphics drivers.
[00:24] <darkhalo117> Is there any way I can make an exact copy of my router firmware using dd?
[00:24] <TOSLinux> end_guy: sure... compared with 12.04 in 12.04 is major!
[00:24] <TOSLinux> *is better
[00:25] <Degru> darkhalo117: I don't think you can do that. DD is only for system stuff.
[00:25] <darkhalo117> Damn
[00:25] <Degru> darkhalo117: what do you plan to do?
[00:26] <fstm> darkhalo117, I don't think so, you'd need direct access to the router's flash memory, and the usual ethernet connection doesn't offer that
[00:26] <end_guy> TOSLinux: 12.04 isn't better, 12.10 is just not configured to be as battery conservative as 12.04
[00:26] <darkhalo117> I had my router hacked a while back and it screwed up my firmware. So I want to have the option to create an exact image of it
[00:26] <darkhalo117> Gotcha fstm
[00:26] <darkhalo117> I might just flash ddwrt so I don't get hacked in the first place
[00:27] <TOSLinux> end_guy: some form of configure it? some link?... thanks!
[00:27] <darkhalo117> Have to thank the roomie for leaving the admin password to it's defaults
[00:27] <fstm> darkhalo117, you can still try a firmware upgrade, if you just wanna get it working
[00:27] <Degru> darkhalo117: if you want better security for your router, see if it supports dd-wrt and use the instructions for you router to install it. dd-wrt is like linux for routers. Adds tons of functionality.
[00:27] <end_guy> TOSLinux: You'll need to do things like turning down the screen brightness, and cpu frequencey. Make the laptop sleep after 10 minutes of being idle.
[00:27] <qwebirc83344> dd-wrt = no firewall
[00:27] <Degru> qwebirc83344: Can't it be installed?
[00:27] <darkhalo117> You can install one
[00:27] <end_guy> that will increase your battery life
[00:27] <darkhalo117> Hence the add ons
[00:27] <Degru> darkhalo117: yep
[00:28] <darkhalo117> I'll have to do that then
[00:28] <TOSLinux> end_guy: ok... but another tip?
[00:28] <end_guy> TOSLinux: Here's how you can turn down your CPU frequency, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils
[00:28] <qwebirc83344> dd-wrt acts like a router or ap rather than a serious firewall
[00:29] <mguy> Isn't a NAT firewall all most users need?
[00:29] <Degru> qwebirc83344: a router acts like a router or ap. that's true.
[00:29] <end_guy> TOSLinux: sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[00:29] <tomasz_aen> hi
[00:29] <end_guy> TOSLinux: then sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave
[00:29] <Degru> qwebirc83344: but in dd-wrt you can install a firewall
[00:29] <TOSLinux> end_guy: a moment please view the link
[00:30] <darkhalo117> Battery optimizations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloTXFgNL7s
[00:30] <darkhalo117> P.S: Trust your technolust
[00:30] <Degru> darkhalo117: well, I can't do anything about my battery; it's at 24% capacity. I'll have to get a new one.
[00:31] <TOSLinux> end_guy: good! but:  and if something goes wrong? how to reverse the command?
[00:31] <nell> how do I backup my packages
[00:31] <darkhalo117> Degru: I see
[00:31] <nell> got it
[00:31] <TOSLinux> end_guy: or interactive mode for when use the laptop with AC (power)
[00:33] <end_guy> sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand
[00:33] <TOSLinux> Degru: charge completly battery and discharge completly battery (3 times)
[00:35] <TOSLinux> end_guy: but I have to be wearing these commands every time you plug and unplug the computer?
[00:36] <tomasz_aen> just testing keyboard
[00:37] <TOSLinux> end_guy: but I have to be wearing these commands every time you plug and unplug the computer?
[00:38] <end_guy> TOSLinux: It would not be that hard to write a shell script that checks the batter state and runs them automatically
[00:38] <end_guy> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[00:39] <TOSLinux> guys what version of ubuntu choose for laptop (i3 - 4 GB of RAM - Intel HD Graphics and Atheros AR9285)?
[00:39] <Kaito> @
[00:39] <TOSLinux> end_guy: is very complicated for my this script :(
[00:40] <TOSLinux> end_guy: my laptop is: intel core i3 - 4 GB of RAM - Intel HD Graphics and Atheros AR9285 battery 6 cells
[00:40] <Faris> Hello ppl
[00:40] <Faris> I'm new to unity. how can I see the available applications ??
[00:41] <Faris> (Like the upper applications menu in gnome2)
[00:41] <TOSLinux> Faris: on dash... icon in bottom (Applications)
[00:41] <unheeding> TOSLinux: any version should work.  you have enough power.  it just depnds on what desktop you want
[00:41] <Faris> TOSLinux: There is no such icon in livecd mode ?
[00:42] <Faris> TOSLinux: (I'm using 12.04)
[00:42] <end_guy> TOSLinux: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/444/cpu-freq/
[00:42] <end_guy> if you use gnome-shell
[00:42] <end_guy> you can use that
[00:42] <TOSLinux> Faris: yes: open DASH (ubuntu logo) and clic in icon (application) positioned in bottom
[00:43] <end_guy> TOSLinux: here's a plugin for brightness https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/231/brightness-control/
[00:43] <end_guy> you can do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and choose GNOME as your session when you login
[00:43] <TOSLinux> end_guy: but use Unity not GNOME Shell!
[00:43] <Kaito> @
[00:44] <end_guy> TOSLinux: then swap to gnome-shell, it's not difficult, one command and relogin under GNOME
[00:44] <end_guy> it's better anyway
[00:44] <TOSLinux> end_guy: hate GNOME SHell :(
[00:45] <Faris> TOSLinux: applications are not grouped by category, is it normal ?
[00:45] <end_guy> awww, then I dunno. unity sucks because you can really configure it to do awesome things like control cpufreq-set
[00:45] <TOSLinux> end_guy: if only gnome 2 back...
[00:45] <TOSLinux> Faris: yes... in top clic in "Filter" and choose some category!
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> TOSLinux: Pinguy Is a very close approximation
[00:45] <end_guy> TOSLinux: I agree, I miss somethings about GNOME 2 also
[00:46] <Faris> TOSLinux: so many clics to get a tidy application list :(
[00:46] <TOSLinux> ntzrmtthihu777: not... i don't like :(
[00:47] <TOSLinux> end_guy: actually use Backrack 5 GNOME 2 (but is obsolete)
[00:48] <TOSLinux> Faris: is simply... open dash and type name of your application and ENTER! button... is very simply!
[00:49] <end_guy> TOSLinux: if you just install cpufrequtils it will always default to ondemand, which is good enough
[00:49] <end_guy> it will use max CPU only when it needs it
[00:49] <end_guy> which is ideally what you always want anyway
[00:50] <TOSLinux> end_guy: ok
[00:50] <end_guy> I really can't seeing 12.04 being *THAT* much better in terms of battery life than 12.10
[00:50] <psusi> you don't need to install cpufrequtils for the ondemand govorner, that is built into the kernel, and there's really no reason to muck with it
[00:51] <end_guy> psusi: the idea was to set it to powersaver mode and only use bare minimum to help him with batter life, but honestly I don't know why 12.04 would be that much better in terms of battery life than 12.10
[00:51] <TOSLinux> end_guy: but I yes!
[00:51] <psusi> it's actually more energy efficient to *not* slow the cpu down, because then it can finish its work faster, and spend more time in the very low power non executing states
[00:53] <psusi> most modern cpus completely power off in their deepest C state
[00:53] <Colin_> hello im having a issue when i install updates ubuntu refuses to boot black screens and monitor loses signal im still using standard grpahics driver any idea?
[00:54] <TOSLinux> end_guy: I notice that if ... I will try your tips  - Thanks!
[00:54] <ghoti> What's the difference between qt4 and gtk20?  Are they different widget sets, different libraries, what?  If I have a choice of building an application using one vs the other, how do I decide which I should pick?
[00:54] <end_guy> psusi: that statement is only valid if we assume the user won't be frequently running cpu intensive processes.
[00:54] <TOSLinux> end_guy: one more thing ... as sack Legal Information icon on the dash
[00:55] <nell> I want to see my system stats and overclock settings, where should I look to?
[00:55] <end_guy> TOSLinux: what?
[00:56] <ejv> ghoti: you should really ask that on a site like stackoverflow.
[00:56] <TOSLinux> end_guy: how to remove icon "Legal information" form the dash?
[00:56] <psusi> end_guy, no, that's the point... if you are running a cpu intensive app, it is better to run full speed, finish in 10 seconds, and the cpu can go back to sleep, rather than spend 20 seconds running at 80% power
[00:56] <ghoti> ejv: stackoverflow is a programming resource, and a question like this would be off-topic there.
[00:56] <end_guy> TOSLinux: I don't use have that problem in gnome-shell :) You should Google that one
[00:56] <TOSLinux> end_guy: i try remove the HTML file from /usr/share/unity/6/....html  but not do nothing
[00:57] <ejv> ghoti: no it wouldn't, who better to answer a question about programming, than programmers...
[00:57] <jbuncher> Just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and I can't get the "Set Up Mail...." entry in the messaging-menu to change to what it should be for thunderbird (thunderbird was already set up in 10.04).  I have tried reinstalling thunderbird and thunderbird-globalmenu, uninstalling evolution, logging in and out, and restarting with no luck.  Thoughts?
[00:57] <TOSLinux> end_guy: I already did ... and nothing
[00:58] <KI4RO> .
[00:58] <mguy> Is there something I need to install in 12.04 to use an LVM on a external HD? The disk is my old Fedora install
[00:58] <ghoti> ejv: while that's a viable rationale, StackOverflow questions that do not include example code, expected results and actual results often get closed.  I don't have any code, I'm asking about the relationship between two toolkits.  That's definitely off-topic for SO.
[00:58] <TOSLinux> Someone can help me removing the "legal information" icon form the dash of Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:58] <end_guy> psusi: If the user is doing this cpu intensive things frequently, then it's comaritive to continuously running a process at max cpu versus continuously running at min cpu
[00:59] <end_guy> TOSLinux: it doesn't sound like something you should be able to remove
[00:59] <mguy> ghoti: What about programmers.stackexchange.com
[00:59] <psusi> mguy, you need to install the lvm2 package to use lvm, does't matter that it's external
[01:00] <ghoti> I'm getting the distinct impression that nobody wants to discuss this.  Okay, well, thanks mguy.
[01:00] <mguy> ghoti: you could go in the gtk or qt channels and ask them :)
[01:01] <ghoti> Sure, like I should ask about the difference between Ubuntu and Fedora here in #ubuntu?  Great call.  ;)
[01:01] <mguy> psusi: Weird. I figured that would be part of the basic install. Thanks
[01:01] <mguy> ghoti: Maybe there is a linux-programming channel.
[01:01] <TOSLinux> end_guy: then I have to see the icon every day of my life?
[01:01] <ghoti> sigh.  I'll just do my own reading.
[01:02] <psusi> end_guy, the only time lowering the cpu frequency is a win is if you are running a broken app that always wastes 100% of the cpu no matter what, like running an old dos app..
[01:02] <ghoti> Often, folks in irc are able to provide quick, useful answers.  Not tonight, apparently.
[01:02] <Degru> it always depends on the issue
[01:03] <mguy> ghoti: This just isn't the type of channle for that question
[01:03] <ghoti> mguy: ya, I see that.
[01:05] <mguy> What's the dpkg or apt command to install missing dependencies?
[01:05] <Degru> TOSLinux: I have never had an icon like that in my dash. Try right-clicking and clicking "remove" or "unpin"
[01:06] <TOSLinux> end_guy: simply open the HTML file
[01:06] <end_guy> psusi: Looks like our only thing to do is use the scientific method :D
[01:06] <Degru> mguy: sudo apt-get install -f
[01:06] <end_guy> or just agree to disagree
[01:06] <TOSLinux>  Someone can help me removing the "legal information" icon from the dash of Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:07] <end_guy> which is borning
[01:07] <end_guy> s/borning/boring
[01:07] <Degru> TOSLinux: right click and click unpin
[01:08] <TOSLinux> end_guy: when boot to install Ubuntu 12.10 will prove it
[01:08] <psusi> end_guy, it's been done... the redhat guys set up a big lab full of computers and took detailed power meausrements to test it
[01:08] <TOSLinux> end_guy: thank you very much!
[01:08] <muh2000> hi all
[01:09] <muh2000> i am trying to build my own package. everything works except for a dependency. during the install process it names the packe it want, but it doesnt install it :(
[01:09] <end_guy> psusi: Then we have to try to reproduce their results. I just know that I am frequently using a lot of CPU, so it's often better to use minimum cpu frequency
[01:09] <end_guy> because my CPU processing time is always greater than its idle time
[01:10] <TOSLinux> bye guys!!!!
[01:10] <end_guy> doens't matter if I set it to 2.4GHz or 800MHz
[01:10] <psusi> end_guy, how did you determine that it was "better"?  the lower you set the frequency, the more time you spend processing vs. idle
[01:11] <psusi> again, unless you are running a broken app that busy waits in a tight loop just wasiting cpu cycles and getting nothing done
[01:11] <end_guy> When I set it to 800MHz durring a normal work day (software engineering) it lasts 6 hours, ondemand governer it only lasts about 4 hours
[01:11] <SunMoonStar> I want to make a copy of a cd and I have instructions to use dd if=/dev/... of=mycopy.iso   ... when i do df -H, it says under column File System: /dev/sr0 and under Mounted On: /media/maks/TurboTax 2012 .... for "if=" do I use /dev/sr0 or the /media.. one?
[01:11] <Degru> SunMoonStar: /dev/sr0
[01:11] <psusi> end_guy, look into what you are running that keeps wasting the cpu
[01:12] <SunMoonStar> Degru: thanks. Now, if I used the /media one, would it still work?
[01:12] <psusi> flash tends to be a culprit.. very badly written program
[01:12] <end_guy> hehe I have. firefox, gnome-shell, ruby, and gnome-terminal are the main processes
[01:12] <Degru> SunMoonStar: No; you wouldn't use that with dd since it contains the actual contents of the cd. if you wanted to just copy the files off the cd though...
[01:13] <Degru> end_guy: Chrome is a lot better than ff in resource consumption
[01:13] <end_guy> Degru: it was worse by default, i had to go in and disable background applications from running when closed
[01:14] <SunMoonStar> Degru: I want to make a cd image so I can run it on a laptop later which doesn't have a cd rom drive, I guess by using virtual iso software
[01:14] <end_guy> even still i get a weird bug sometimes, when i copy and paste it'll just freeze up, not to mention i prefer firebug over chrome dev tools
[01:14] <Degru> SunMoonStar: So, you want to use the ISO with a windows OS with an is mounting software?
[01:15] <SunMoonStar> Degru: yes
[01:15] <SunMoonStar> Degru: I was asked to do this because the person doesn't have a cd rom but have a cd they need to use
[01:15] <Degru> SunMoonStar: Then you do "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/path/to/destionation.iso/" and let it run
[01:15] <KylieBrooks> hi. how do i clear the X clipboard?
[01:16] <SunMoonStar> Degru: and then I can transfer the iso image to them and have them run virtual iso software to use it?
[01:16] <Degru> SunMoonStar: yes. that should work.
[01:16] <SunMoonStar> Degru: awesome thanks :D
[01:17] <Degru> SunMoonStar: You could also go into the /media thing using the file browser and copy the stuff from there into a folder. Then they could just run the installer without even mounting it.
[01:18] <SunMoonStar> Degru: oh.. that might be easier.
[01:19] <Degru> SunMoonStar: It's what I usually do. Unless the software requires you to have the actual CD in when running it should work.
[01:19] <SunMoonStar> Degru: true. thanks. I think this one doesn't so I will just copy it
[01:20] <Degru> SunMoonStar: yeah, last time i checked turbotax didn't need the cd
[01:20] <SunMoonStar> Degru: while copying it had input/output error on one of the files
[01:20] <SunMoonStar> I did a copy paste for this copy
[01:20] <SunMoonStar> maybe I need to use dd
[01:21] <Degru> SunMoonStar: sometimes mounting has issues. in that case use dd.
[01:21] <SunMoonStar> Degru: I am thinking maybe the CD has some sort of anti-copying thing
[01:21] <SunMoonStar> Degru: I will try dd
[01:23] <Degru> SunMoonStar: No, I don't think it's that. I mean, the installer has to actually read the disc, right? Turbotax doesn't have that draconian drm on it. It's most likely a problem with the actual mount, or it's a problem with something else. dd should work no matter what
[01:24] <Degru> this channel should have a MOTD with useful support links in it.
[01:24] <f0urtyfive> anyone know if xhci_hcd is compiled into the latest kernels?
[01:24] <rocktop> hello how to make init read /etc/inittab again without restart ?
[01:24] <Degru> no idea what that is.
[01:25] <Degru> f0urtyfive, rocktop ^^
[01:25] <SunMoonStar> Degru: if I use dd, is there a way to "unpack" the files
[01:25] <f0urtyfive> Degru: xhci_hcd is the USB3 kernel module.
[01:26] <Degru> SunMoonStar: Sure, try open with and then look for the archive extracting program
[01:26] <SunMoonStar> Degru: does it make a difference to what dd does if i give the output file an iso extension or not
[01:27] <rocktop> anyidea ?
[01:28] <Degru> SunMoonStar: no, not really. It's better to add .iso so it's recognized by other software
[01:28] <OerHeks> !inittab
[01:29] <Degru> f0urtyfive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006422 says upgrading to 3.2.0-26-generic fixes it
[01:30] <f0urtyfive> Degru: thanks for the google. I'm trying to get rid of it, not fix it.
[01:30] <Degru> oh; why get rid of it?
[01:30] <f0urtyfive> Degru: according to #libusb the xhci_hcd driver is not as stable as ehci_hcd (usb 2.0) and my device is USB 2.0
[01:31] <Degru> f0urtyfive: It may break something...
[01:32] <f0urtyfive> Degru: I'm pretty sure xhci_hcd is compiled into the kernel anyway...
[01:32] <anotheronebitsth> Hello guys im trying to start desktop on my netbook but startx  comand says no display detected
[01:32] <Degru> f0urtyfive: yeah.
[01:32] <anotheronebitsth> Does anyone can help?
[01:32] <Degru> anotheronebitsth: Did you run the installer as normal? What kind of gfx card does it have?
[01:33] <buhman> on ubuntu 10.04; idmapd isn't resolving uids/gids to usernames/groupnames
[01:33] <buhman> rpc.idmapd[6822]: nss_getpwnam: name '105' does not map into domain 'ist.unomaha.edu'
[01:33] <buhman> where, for this to work properly, '105' should be 'mirror'
[01:33] <buhman> because of course there is no user named '105'
[01:34] <poee> Is there a program that acts as a virtual optical drive and will convert files burnt by other burning programs to ISO?
[01:34] <SonikkuAmerica> anotheronebitsth: (a) What version? and (b) What hardware?
[01:34] <Degru> poee: Most programs have a burn to iso option
[01:34] <tseth> hey. does anyone know what package i need to install to get boost on ubuntu?
[01:35] <poee> Degru, the one I have doesn't :(
[01:35] <Degru> poee: which one?
[01:35] <Degru> tseth: what's boost?
[01:35] <tseth> boost library.
[01:35] <poee> a windows program called IMGburn
[01:35] <Degru> tseth: what does it do
[01:36] <Degru> poee: May I suggest using k3b for burning? It almost always works and has a burn to iso option
[01:36] <tseth> adds a lot of functionality like shared_ptrs, etc.
[01:36] <Degru> tseth: ok, i'll see
[01:37] <poee> I actually have a .gi image file that I need to convert to .iso, and Imgburn is the only program that will recogonize it
[01:37] <SunMoonStar> Degru: worked like a charm!
[01:37] <SunMoonStar> gotta love linux
[01:37] <Degru> tds5016: related to programming?
[01:38] <Degru> SunMoonStar: glad to hear
[01:40] <buhman> poee: mkisofs
[01:41] <poee> buhman, how do I use mkisofs?
[01:42] <buhman> poee: mkisofs -o foo.iso path/
[01:42] <buhman> man 1 mkisofs for more options
[01:43] <poee> this will convert .gi files?
[01:43] <buhman> you'll need to mount it first
[01:44] <poee> hmm
[01:44] <poee> I used the command you gave me
[01:44] <poee> and typed the filename in the end
[01:44] <buhman> that would put your ".gi file" inside the iso which is probably not what you want.
[01:45] <poee> oh okay
[01:45] <poee> how do I mount the .gi file?
[01:45] <buhman> poee: could you run 'file foo.gi' for me?
[01:46] <poee> okay
[01:46] <tomasz_aen> t
[01:46] <buhman> ..and of course I'll want the output
[01:47] <poee> buhman, Image_091108_2053.gi: data
[01:47] <buhman> :(
[01:48] <nell> Will installing nvidia drivers make a big deal on my computer
[01:48] <poee> what can I do here, buhman
[01:48] <buhman> poee: are you able to upload that somewhere so I can fiddle with it?
[01:48] <buhman> or provide some sample?
[01:49] <poee> its too big , will take several hours
[01:49] <buhman> how large is it?
[01:50] <poee> ~300mb
[01:50] <buhman> what; that takes all of 30 seconds
[01:50] <poee> but my upload speed is very low
[01:50] <poee> :(
[01:52] <buhman> poee: can you mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.gi /mnt/iso
[01:52] <buhman> does that work?
[01:52] <poee> lemme see
[01:52] <bravis> nell it did for me but had to fuss with it a bit
[01:53] <poee> buhman, mount: mount point /mnt/iso does not exist
[01:53] <buhman> poee: well make it, silly :p
[01:54] <buhman> that was just an example
[01:54] <poee> lol, how do I make it
[01:54] <buhman> mkdir
[01:54] <poee> oh right
[01:54] <poee> okay
[01:54] <poee> jeez
[01:54] <poee> :/
[01:56] <poee> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[01:57] <subcool> can someone assist me with my networking? - I have no idea why its broken. IT "connects" to my router, but refuses to do anything web based but ping. I havent tested some ssh- but... this is getting me nutty. I am on a second laptop, my iphone and android work. My ONE laptop refuses to work.
[01:57] <subcool> im at a losss
[01:59] <poee> buhman, ^
[01:59] <buhman> poee: oh that's fine
[02:00] <buhman> clearly file was right and it's not iso9660
[02:00] <buhman> poee: surely you obtained this from somewhere else, right?
[02:00] <poee> buhman, yes
[02:00] <buhman> mind sharing the source?
[02:00] <buhman> pm is fine
[02:01] <rahul01> hi
[02:02] <rahul01> is their any alternative of adobe flash in open source?
[02:02] <OerHeks> rahul01, yes, html5
[02:03] <OerHeks> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[02:03] <rahul01> OerHerks, html5? as far as i know its a web lang
[02:03] <rahul01> OerHeks thanks got it.
[02:04] <OerHeks> Yes, this works on youtube only
[02:05] <rahul01> this is nice
[02:06] <subcool> someone please help- its acting like it has a virus..
[02:06] <subcool> i cant get past the router..
[02:07] <dumont> why is ubuntu 12.10 so behind with respect to kernel versions?
[02:08] <dumont> i was hoping to get 12.10 with v3.8
[02:08] <root_> teste
[02:08] <jrib> !sru | dumont
[02:08] <subcool> Even my router cant ping its client
[02:09] <buhman> dumont: archlinux
[02:09] <jrib> !kernel | dumont
[02:09] <OerHeks> maybe raring 13.04 comes with 3.8
[02:10] <buhman> dumont: http://hive.ist.unomaha.edu/archlinux/testing/os/x86_64/linux-3.8.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
[02:10] <jrib> buhman: why are you linking to archlinux packages...?
[02:11] <buhman> jrib: he said he wanted kernel 3.8 :P
[02:11] <buhman> jrib: you *can* actually use that with ubuntu by the way, as is
[02:12] <jrib> buhman: I wouldn't say that's exactly "ideal"
[02:12] <root_> teste
[02:12] <ion_> how shall I fix a broken packege system...I did run ...apt-get install -f
[02:12] <ion_> but didn't work...
[02:12] <jrib> ion_: say how you broke it
[02:13] <root_> boa noite
[02:13] <jrib> !pt | root_
[02:13] <ion_> jrib: trying to install pygame
[02:13] <jrib> ion_: and how did you try to install pygame exactly?
[02:13] <ion_> jrib: using dpkg -i [packege]
[02:14] <jrib> ion_: remove it
[02:14] <ion_> jrib: I try using dpkg -r but didn't work...
[02:14] <jrib> ion_: pastebin
[02:14] <justpie> Does anyone have any idea why i wouldn't beable to connect to wireless-n on my Dell xps 15z? I have a Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6230 card and im running 11.04
[02:14] <ion_> jrib: okay hold on a second..
[02:15] <jrib> !11.04 | justpie
[02:15] <subcool> can anyone suggest a networking irc channel for ubuntu?
[02:15] <justpie> haha, I'm not in a place where i can upgrade at the moment
[02:15] <jrib> subcool: what's your question?
[02:16] <jrib> justpie: you understand that 11.04 is no longer supported?  This means, among other things, that you aren't getting security updates
[02:16] <ion_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584061/
[02:16] <subcool> jrib, my ubuntu refuses to communicate past my router, i can ping it- thats it.
[02:16] <Degru> 12.10 is pretty nice
[02:17] <justpie> jrib : Yes. I am well aware. Have been to busy to upgrade and i don't like unity at all. So i have been holding off
[02:17] <jrib> justpie: so don't use unity
[02:17] <Degru> install one of the flavors, such as kubuntu or xubuntu
[02:18] <jrib> justpie: you have another package manager running that you need to close
[02:18] <justpie> jrib, i don't follow?
[02:18] <ion_> jrib: I did run aptitude as well..
[02:18] <jrib> justpie: wrong nick; sorry
[02:18] <jrib> ion_: you have another package manager running that you need to close
[02:18] <subcool> jrib, im booting to a liveusb as we speak
[02:19] <jrib> subcool: and on the liveusb everything works?
[02:19] <ion_> jrib: I have to track it down and kill but how shall I do it ..?
[02:19] <subcool> jrib, booting now.
[02:20] <jrib> ion_: first find out what it is.  Do you have update-manager, synaptic, software center, or something like apt or dpkg still running?
[02:20] <ion_> jrib: no
[02:22] <jrib> ion_: what happened when you installed pygame with dpkg?  Do you still have that shell open?
[02:22] <James_B> Yo!
[02:22] <ion_> jrib: not really...
[02:22] <James_B> Fresh new ubuntu install
[02:22] <subcool> crap- jrib , liveusb works fine
[02:22] <subcool> jrib, i think i got hacked :/
[02:22] <jrib> subcool: did you rule out a dns issue?
[02:22] <James_B> top 10 plugins to install?
[02:23] <subcool> i havent gotten too far into diagnoisis
[02:23] <subcool> so no
[02:23] <subcool> it was working fine 5 hours ago
[02:23] <ion_> jrib: I don't care about pygame anymore the most important thing is my system run fine again...
[02:25] <jrib> ion_: pastebin output of: ps -ef | grep 'apt\|dpkg'
[02:25] <jrib> ion_: pygame is in the repositories by the way, you don't download a deb and install it manually
[02:26] <ion_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584076/
[02:27] <jrib> ion_: ok so you have aptitude running
[02:27] <dumont> How does it work? if I install 12.10, 18 months later when support expires, I won't be getting any updates?
[02:28] <airlynx> I'm having troubles playing games with 3D graphics, would that be my radeon driver causing the issues?  I have an AMD Radeon HD 7640G
[02:28] <KM0201> dumont: basically
[02:28] <jrib> dumont: yes.  You should upgrade to a new release to avoid that.  You can stay on LTS and upgrade every 2 years, otherwise releases occur every 6 months
[02:28] <p014k> Hello. I recently upgraded to 12.10. I am use to 'ubuntu classic' with the start menus and panel at the bottom. I would like to retain these. I disabled the unity plugin in compiz and installed gnome-panel, gnome-tweak-tool, and gnome-shell. When I boot, I have to open a terminal and type gnome-panel every time to get it to open, how do I get this to start automatically? Also when I do open the panel, the only thing displayed on the top panel is the date
[02:28] <p014k> , how do I get the login/shutdown menu, bluetooth icon, battery icon, wifi icon, volume icon, and keyboard language set to show up on it? One other issue is in the panel on the lower right, I set the number of workspaces to 9 (3x3), however when I switch workspaces, the viewpoint preview only shows 4 and I can't switch to the other ones.
[02:29] <dumont> how do I upgrade? what's the diff between update and upgrade?
[02:29] <ion_> jrib: I think I did remove so how can I get out from aptitude then...?
[02:29] <dumont> upgrade as in aptitude upgrade ?
[02:29] <jrib> ion_: find your shell with aptitude in it and quit aptitude
[02:29] <wad> Cron has become complicated. On this new ubuntu box (12.04), I'd like to have it run a process (sarg) every day. There is already a file here: /etc/cron.daily/sarg
[02:29] <p014k> dumont: do a 'man apt-get' in terminal. All the definitions are there.
[02:29] <wad> But it didn't do anything last night.
[02:30] <wad> What's the right way to schedule a cron job these days?
[02:30] <wad> (It used to be that you'd just edit the crontab.)
[02:30] <ion_> q:
[02:30] <jbuncher> Just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and I can't get the "Set Up Mail...." entry in the messaging-menu to change to what it should be for thunderbird (thunderbird was already set up in 10.04).  I have tried reinstalling thunderbird and thunderbird-globalmenu, uninstalling evolution, logging in and out, and restarting with no luck.  Thoughts?
[02:31] <jrib> wad: you can use those cron.daily directories or use crontab; whatever you prefer.  Those directories are mostly to make it easy for packages to install cron jobs
[02:31] <p014k> I upgraded from 10.04 just recently, too, lol.
[02:31] <subcool> ok- jrib could u explain this? my home directory is 1000:bitdefender
[02:31] <wad> jrib: Okay, so just having a file in cron.daily means it will be run every day? What time?
[02:31] <jrib> subcool: explain what?
[02:31] <dumont> i'm maintaining a redhat system right now, but we are update centric only (at certain intervals), and don't upgrade because of high demand for uptime, so I'm wondering how disruptive the "upgrade" is
[02:31] <wad> Oh, I see it. It's in crontab.
[02:32] <jrib> wad: yes
[02:32] <subcool> jrib, why would my home directory be apart of a group call bitdefender
[02:32] <ion_> jrib: no still here can you help me out, please. I have no much experience with aptitude.
[02:32] <jrib> subcool: I don't know
[02:32] <jrib> ion_: did you find it?
[02:32] <Ziber> So, I've been using VLC to play DVDs but often times the DVD menu won't load and I'll just get a pure green window instead. Any suggestions on good ways to watch DVDs?
[02:32] <jbuncher> p014k, don't suppose you were hit by the bug that I was?
[02:33] <jbuncher> Ziber, I'm not sure if xine is supported anymore, but that's what I used to use.  It's not pretty, but had good support for DVD menus.
[02:33] <ion_> jrib:
[02:33] <Ziber> jbuncher: "used to use"?
[02:33] <dumont> once 13.04 comes out, and I'm running 12.10, I just have to do apt-get upgrade ? I've upgrade ubuntu before from 10.04 to 10.10 then to 11.04 but the upgrade was incompaible, I'm wondering if I'll be stuck later with a system which cannot be upgraded... requiring a complete reinstall
[02:34] <ion_> jrib:yeah I saw the package but I don't know how to remove it ..
[02:34] <jbuncher> Ziber, I just upgraded to 12.04, and haven't watched DVDs on this machine in a while.  Looks like xine is still installed, so it should be ok, but I haven't tested it.
[02:34] <jrib> dumont: update-manager will pop up and ask you if you want to upgrade to 13.04 once it is released; then you just click yes
[02:35] <jbuncher> dumont, odd.  I've never had that.  I've upgraded from breezy to precise.....
[02:35] <dumont> or maybe it was 9.10 ...
[02:36] <jbuncher> dumont, AFAIK, you can *always* upgraded to the next ubuntu, even if the release you're running is no longer supported.  You just have to go one upgraded at a time (or from LTS -> LTS).
[02:36] <jbuncher> dumont, I just did the 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade last night, went off mostly without a hitch.  (nvidia, grr...)
[02:37] <dumont> anyway, I'm not fully grasping how the "upgrade" affects the system, whether or not it will be an equivalent of a fresh reinstall with configs/progs/data retained, or it will be a partial patch with new kernel and other packages, but possibly contain bugs like I've experienced where multiple upgrades end up with a failed system that is very hard to restore
[02:37] <p014k> jbuncher: No, I don't use software email. gmail ftw
[02:38] <toter> Ziber: From the Ubuntu Documentation: "In VLC Media Player for example, when you choose to open a disc, there's an option "No DVD menus". You just have to enable that option before you press Play. Media players that lack support for DVD menus should work as well (e.g. mplayer)."
[02:38] <toter> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:38] <p014k> dumont: you'd do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[02:38] <scoob> Wanted to poke back with my question from earlier and maybe get some new eyes on it. I'm using Ubuntu server 12.04 on ESXi 5.1.0. I've got a usb wireless network card plugged into my host and it's passed through to a guest. I can see if on ifconfig -a however I can't bring it up and rfkill list shows its hard blocked.
[02:38] <jbuncher> dumont, it downloads all the new packages and installs those versions, and most packages ask if you want config files overwritten/untouched/merged (such as when installing a new ssh/samba).
[02:38] <jrib> dumont: when ubuntu makes a release the package versions are mostly fixed (notable exceptions are security updates).  When a new version comes along, it comes with new software (mostly newer versions of your old software).  The upgrade retains your configuration and installs the new package versions that are standard for the new ubuntu release
[02:38] <scoob> It also seemingly randomly changes from on/off in dmesg
[02:39] <dumont> I know this has nothing to do with ubuntu, but speaking of scientific linux, I have v6.1 installed but "yum upgrade" does not upgrade to v6.2 even though 6.2 has been released for a while
[02:39] <Ziber> toter: but i like dvd menus... I was hoping to kepe them.
[02:39] <Ziber> *keep.
[02:39] <jrib> ion_: your first step is to close aptitude
[02:39] <Ziber> Just have them working.
[02:39] <X7510> hi
[02:39] <jbuncher> Ziber, use xine, DVD menus work there.
[02:40] <Ziber> hm, i'll look into it
[02:40] <toter> Ziber: I would recommend you to try to rip the DVD using HandBrake, for example.
[02:40] <Ziber> package name?
[02:40] <jbuncher> package might be xine-ui, or something similar
[02:40] <Ziber> ah, thanks
[02:40] <Ziber> toter: that's a lot of overkill for just wanting to -watch- a dvd.
[02:40] <KI4RO> .
[02:41] <jrib> dumont: apt-get upgrade won't upgrade you to a new ubuntu release either.  It only upgrades your packages for your current release (in case there are security updates and such)
[02:41] <Josh_> Hi I need help
[02:41] <Josh_> Unable to install wine
[02:41] <jrib> Josh_: how are you trying?  And what is the result?
[02:42] <dumont> what's apt-get update for? updates the local list of available new packages? without installing them? and upgrade actually install them?
[02:42] <toter> Ziber: Please let us know if xine works out or not...
[02:43] <Ziber> Xine looks like crap, but let's see.
[02:43] <jrib> dumont: apt-get update refreshes your package index files
[02:43] <noah_> I need help figuring out how to create partitions so i can install 2 operating systems
[02:43] <jbuncher> dumont, yes
[02:43] <Ziber> can't read the dvd apparently.
[02:43] <dumont> thx, been having some confusion about it for a while, dispelled by experimentations..
[02:43] <toter> Soooooo….
[02:44] <toter> let's go back to that overkill part
[02:44] <Ziber> toter: If I want to watch a DVD, I don't want to have to rip the entirety of it to my computer first.
[02:44] <Ziber> That, sir, is overkill.
[02:44] <Josh_> @jrib i used the terminal  and the output is here http://pastebin.com/rShiNYY7
[02:45] <dumont> if apt-get dist-upgrade, what's yum equivalent of distribution upgrade?
[02:45] <Ziber> brb
[02:46] <jrib> Josh_: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[02:46] <noah_> i need help creating partitions so i can set up 2 operating systems on my computer
[02:46] <jrib> dumont: what?
[02:46] <jrib> noah_: you can partition in the ubuntu installer
[02:46] <toter> Ziber: You are missing the point. You can watch that DVD on your computer… Just install Windows or something. If you're running Linux, you'll have to some extra steps to achieve your goal
[02:46] <p014k> dumont: all the information you are looking for is in the manual for spt-get. Just type 'man apt-get' into your terminal and you'll know everything. It's not tl;dr
[02:47] <toter> *to do
[02:47] <dumont> jrib what's an equivalent of apt-get dist-upgrade for yum
[02:47] <noah_> will it also be there in the back box installer (the one im installing i already have ubuntu on)
[02:47] <dumont> btw, anyone else annoyed by "apt-get" it's so difficult to type in, there's a -, and 3 characters... while yum is only 3 characters, also there are diff commands you have to remember with the aptitude installer, apt-get apt-cache, with yum it's only yum install, yum search
[02:47] <jrib> dumont: ask a channel that uses yum ;)
[02:47] <p014k> ^
[02:48] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | dumont
[02:48] <Josh_> @jrib I recieved no response tried dpkg --print-foreign-architectures command
[02:49] <jrib> Josh_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update  # then try to install wine again
[02:49] <Josh_> @jrib I have AMD
[02:50] <jrib> dumont: by the way aptitude is an alternative to apt-get/apt-cache.  And you can always alias apt-get to something shorter if you wish
[02:50] <simon___> hello everyone
[02:50] <jrib> Josh_: that command will enable multiarch for i386 so you can install wine
[02:51] <Ziber> back...
[02:54] <Physicist> How can I remove all fglrx folders, files and programs of my computer?
[02:54] <Josh_> @jrib all solved thank you very much
[02:54] <Physicist> jrib: Can you help me?
[02:55] <Physicist> Without use dpkg or --force
[02:55] <Josh_> @jrib: Problem solved. Thanks
[02:55] <jrib> Physicist: I don't know about that and it's time for walking dead, sorry
[02:55] <toter> Ziber: What I was trying to say is that if you're familiar with Linux, you should know that some tasks require additional steps to be taken. You can watch that DVD on your computer just fine. Just install Windows. Playing a DVD using Linux is illegal, anyway… According to the US Government. :)
[02:55] <Josh_> @jrib thanks
[02:55] <jrib> Josh_: no problem
[02:56] <Josh_> @jrib have fun watching walking dead
[02:56] <Ziber> toter: Eh? Illegal?
[02:56] <Physicist> dr_willis: Any advice?
[02:56] <Ziber> And I do have windows (in a dualboot), but I'm trying to migrate to Linux completely.
[02:56] <Josh_> @toter: Not really if you use non free codecs
[02:56] <capella> Playing a DVD using Linux is illegal ?
[02:56] <Josh_> @ziber they'll never know
[02:57] <unheeding> libdvdcss is technically illegal
[02:57] <unheeding> don't download it from the medibuntu repository
[02:57] <lb27> illegal primes!
[02:57] <unheeding> whatever you do
[02:57] <capella> citation?
[02:57] <toter> Josh_: Could you recommend a way to play a DVD on Linux using non free codecs?
[02:57] <unheeding> http://www.howtogeek.com/138969/why-watching-dvds-on-linux-is-illegal-in-the-usa/
[02:57] <histo> toter: you can't
[02:57] <lb27> capella: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_primes#The_first_illegal_executable_prime_number
[02:58] <histo> toter: well you can if it's not DRM protected
[02:58] <Physicist> CAN ANYBODY GIVE ME AN ADVICE?
[02:58] <Brewster> hello I'm trying to install 2 oses on 2 different partitions of the same drive with a 20GB "free space" partition using this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Multiple_OS_Installation but it's late here and all I'm seeing is blah blah blah. Can anyone help or point me towards something that will work on the newer version of ubuntu?
[02:58] <histo> Physicist: how did you install fglrx ?
[02:58] <capella> lb27 I meant watching dvd illegal ... reading the google on that at the moment :)
[02:59] <Josh_> @toter: will give you data in a sec
[02:59] <toter> histo: I'm sure that there are some DVD's that do not have DRM… But i'm also sure that the DVD Ziber is trying to run on Linux has DRM
[02:59] <sjd_zeus> hi all
[03:00] <lb27> optical media hasn't been relevant to me for a long time.
[03:01] <Physicist> histo: Thank you first.. I did the installtion unziping and running the catalyst installer, meantine, when i click on amdcccle icon it does not open. I uninstalled and reinstalled everything.. Does not open anyway.. My laptop is consuming a lot of battery..
[03:01] <Physicist> histo: I did everything right,, Now I just want delete everything and reinstall from "zero"..
[03:02] <Josh_> @toter you can modify your dvd drive to be region free
[03:02] <Physicist> or install..
[03:02] <toter> You see… I don't care about the DMCA, or the US Government… I'll rip the damn thing if necessary… My point is that, Ziber, if you want to play this DVD on Linux, you have to be willing to research and do some additional steps...
[03:02] <Josh_> @ziber modify your DVD drive
[03:03] <Josh_> @ziber: http://linvdr.org/projects/regionset/
[03:03] <histo> Physicist: well the issue is you used the binary file provided from AMD. I'm not that familiar with it but I know that when you uninstall it tends to break things. That's why everyone here will tell you to install fglrx from the software repositories built into ubuntu.
[03:04] <toter> If you want a one-click solution and a nice interface, not a program that "looks like crap", buy a Mac
[03:04] <SunMoonStar> I was just watching Bing Bang Theory and Sheldon is spacing out on his computer and says "oh Ubuntu, you are my favorite linux distribution"
[03:04] <Josh_> @SunMoonStar what episode
[03:05] <histo> toter: what?
[03:05] <SunMoonStar> Josh_: lol im not sure but check it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3vKceIMtP0
[03:05] <PlastikSpork> I don't know what I did but after I rebooted will not reappear when I move my mouse to the left of the screen.  I tried turning off auto hide and it still will not appear. Have to hit super key.  Also my touch-pad is super sensitive and doesn't feel right. Touchpad options are missing in system settings.
[03:05] <histo> toter: you need libdvdcss to play DVDs on linux
[03:05] <PlastikSpork> *launcher
[03:05] <histo> !codecs | toter
[03:05] <sjd> .
[03:05] <Physicist> histo: Ok. If I install from the repositories, will remove all and install a new package... I suppose!
[03:06] <histo> PlastikSpork: Does the panel appear at the top of the screen.
[03:06] <PlastikSpork> histo: yes the panel is at the top
[03:06] <histo> Physicist: I don't know. I wouldn't have used the driver from AMD when the same thing is available int he repositories.
[03:06] <toter> Ziber: By the way, if it's not asking too much… What DVD are you trying to play anyway?
[03:07] <Ziber> toter: A season of SOAP. :P
[03:07] <PlastikSpork> histo: i installed myunity  a few hours ago... new install on this laptop been doing a lot of changes... installed conky as well
[03:07] <PlastikSpork> histo: removed unity without any affect.
[03:08] <PlastikSpork> *myunity
[03:08] <Physicist> histo: Thank you.
[03:08] <Josh_> how to install cinnamon?
[03:08] <histo> PlastikSpork: What was the last thing you did?
[03:08] <histo> !notunity | Josh_
[03:08] <sjd> i like face4
[03:08] <PlastikSpork> installed conky
[03:09] <andrea___> hey guys, I have some problem. I'm using ubuntu 13.04 and doesn't appers the networking manager icon on taskbar. It means I can't connect to any wireless connection.  My lspci is: 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) <- essa é minha placa wireless
[03:09] <histo> PlastikSpork: well did you enable DBE or know what that is?
[03:09] <Physicist> What is the "best" repository to install fglrx drivers?
[03:09] <Josh_> How can you install Cinnamon not GNOME?
[03:09] <histo> !ati | Physicist
[03:09] <histo> Josh_: Find a PPA I guess
[03:09] <histo> !raring > andrea___
[03:09] <histo> PlastikSpork: Try uninstalling conky and see if it fixes the issue
[03:10] <PlastikSpork> histo:  i'll try removing conky
[03:10] <Josh_> How to install Cinnamon GUI?
[03:10] <unheeding> Josh_: there's a ppa for that
[03:10] <unheeding> search for cinnamon stable ppa
[03:11] <Josh_> @unheeding: I have no clue how to do it
[03:11] <doomlord> hi, wireless isnt working on my laptop under ubuntu - but it works in windows ... any suggestions on troubleshooting it
[03:11] <Physicist> andrea___: Já? Raring Ringtail ainda não foi oficialmente lançado. Tem diversos bugs..
[03:11] <ion_> jrib: how can I remove a broken package using aptitude
[03:11] <unheeding> Josh_: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable
[03:11] <ion_> jrib: I did locate it already but I don't know how to remove it
[03:11] <Josh_> @doomlord run lspci and see if it picks it up (the network card)
[03:12] <unheeding> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[03:12] <andrea___> Physicist eu já fiz esse mesmo teste nas versões 12.10 e 12.04 e obtive o mesmo resultado
[03:13] <andrea___> sorry guys, I had the same tests with 12.10 and 12.04 and the result was the same
[03:13] <doomlord> i see a "newtork controler" (intel centrio adanced-n 6230)  and an ethernet controller "realtek PCI-E gigabit .."
[03:14] <doomlord> i take it the centrino bit is the one disabled/not working
[03:14] <faceleg_> jion #node.js
[03:14] <Ziber> DVD menus work now.
[03:14] <Ziber> :D
[03:15] <toter> Ziber: What program did you use?
[03:16] <Physicist> Physicist: Try search about any driver or issue of your adapter..
[03:16] <Physicist> andrea___: Try search about any driver or issue of your adapter..
[03:16] <Ziber> libdvdread4?
[03:18] <Physicist> andrea___: I am with the same problem.. Meantime, is with Slackware..
[03:19] <Physicist> Good luck everyone..
[03:19] <andrea___> the researchs make sugest download of compact-wireless but I coudn't compile and install it, because it returns errors on installations
[03:20] <PlastikSpork> histo: no go...uninstalled myunity and conky, I got launcher back, but only if I don't auto-hide.  launcher fails to reappear in auto-hide.
[03:20] <toter> how do i send a message in another language using ubottu? I forgot the syntax...
[03:21] <selena2013> hello family
[03:21] <doomlord> Now i recall i actually disabled my wireless networking because it used to keep losing & rejoining, bringing up a dialogue box...
[03:21] <doomlord> i must find how i did that..
[03:22] <doomlord> hah. "Wireless is disabled by hardware sswitch" ,it says on the nm-applet dropdown... but the hardware sswitch is enabled
[03:23] <subcool> How do i fix my network manager... is appears to error a lot
[03:24] <toter> !pt-br | andrea___
[03:25] <unheeding> doomlord: "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[03:25] <doomlord> lshw -C network says ... "*-network DISABLED \n\t description:Wireless Interface ...
[03:25] <doomlord> thanks
[03:26] <doomlord> "connection established.." :)
[03:26] <unheeding> yeah i don't know why it puts a block on there when you disable wireless
[03:26] <unheeding> and then doesn't unblock it
[03:26] <andrea___> toter: ?
[03:27] <subcool> can someone help me- im at a loss. my computer was fine 5 hours ago. i shut itdown, came home. turned it on- and now i cant connect to my home network.
[03:28] <toter> !br | andrea___
[03:28] <asdddf> hi, im wondering if anyone can help me stop my fans from running really loud :s
[03:28] <unheeding> asdddf: is there a process using up a lot of cpu?
[03:28] <p014k> I'm running 12.10 in classic mode. In the lower right panel is the workspace switcher. I set the workspaces to 9 (3x3), but when I try to switch workspaces the viewpoint switcher only shows a 2x2 grid and I am unable to access the other 5 workspaces. How do I fix this?
[03:29] <tama> good day everyone. :D
[03:29] <tama> I am new to ubuntu.
[03:29] <asdddf> no, its just on linux my fans seem to run really loud compared to windows, I've just recently switched.
[03:29] <asdddf> Theres nothing using a lot of cpu :s
[03:30] <tama> I have a computer with two lan card and one is hooked to the modem, while the other one hooked to my laptop.
[03:30] <fuleo> how do i list service that can be run on my ubuntu server... ?
[03:30] <tama> how can my laptop connect to the network through my desktop computer?
[03:30] <tama> sorry for my bad english.
[03:31] <subcool> someone please- it has to be something in my ubuntu.
[03:31] <subcool> when i try to connect to my router, it says it was rejected.
[03:32] <subcool> when i goto my router, and ping ti computer, it fails.
[03:33] <tama> oh, and btw i know how to change my IP adress, but I don't know what should I type.
[03:33] <tama> And I don't know the right keyword to search in google.
[03:33] <excalibr> hello. anyone who uses nvidia card, can you share your output of this cmd: ls -alh /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:34] <thebishop> is there any touch-screen functionality in 12.10 for laptops that have it?
[03:35] <toter> tama: Where are you from? I am asking that because you could try getting help on your native language
[03:35] <tama> I am from Indonesia.
[03:35] <tama> thanks for the reply toter. :D
[03:35] <toter> !id | tama
[03:35] <tama> where should I talk to?
[03:36] <tama> oh, ok.
[03:36] <tama> thanks.
[03:36] <tama> nobody is in #ubuntu-id :(
[03:36] <subcool> ok- i just wired into my router. and i still have no connectivity
[03:37] <Degru> tama: to do that you'd have to somehow use your computer as a router... do you have a router you could plug into the modem?
[03:37] <tama> I have one I think Degru
[03:37] <tama> brb
[03:38] <toter> wow… 242,325,638 people in Indonesia and no one on #ubuntu-id
[03:39] <subcool> anyone please- im not even sure how to google this
[03:39] <Degru> toter: maybe because not many people use ubuntu in indonesia?
[03:39] <tama> found it but it is unable to power on. I think it is broken. :(
[03:39] <Degru> ah.
[03:39] <toter> yeah… no one
[03:39] <Degru> tama: I'll try to find something on google on how to use your computer as a router. might be pretty complicated, though.
[03:40] <tama> Thanks degru. :)
[03:40] <tama> I can afford learning. :D
[03:41] <tama> Btw, I've tried to adhooked my laptop with my pc and it is connected.
[03:41] <excalibr> what are you trying to do tama ?
[03:42] <tama> excalibr: I have a computer with two lan card and one is hooked to the modem, while the other one hooked to my laptop. I try to connect my laptop to the internet.
[03:42] <tama> but failed
[03:42] <Degru> tama: wait, what's running ubuntu; the laptop, the pc, or both?
[03:44] <subcool> Pleawe?
[03:44] <Degru> subcool: what's wron
[03:44] <Degru> g
[03:44] <excalibr> tama: so just set up a connection sharing in network manager then..share the pc's connection to the spare lan card
[03:44] <selena2013> to use it as router or hotspot
[03:45] <selena2013> yea you set up as hotspot sharing
[03:45] <Degru> selena2013: hotspot sharing would be wifi.
[03:45] <selena2013> correct
[03:45] <subcool> Degru, my 12.04 refuses to communicate through network manager
[03:45] <subcool> Wired or Wireless
[03:45] <subcool> i achieve a ip address.
[03:46] <subcool> i can only ping the router, nothing else, the router cant ping the client
[03:47] <PadNet201> check gateways
[03:47] <Degru> subcool: is it dns? try pinging 64.233.160.0
[03:47] <subcool> i've deleted and re-made the connection many times.
[03:47] <Degru> subcool: are you trying to ping http://www.host.com or the ip?
[03:47] <tama> both are running ubuntu 12.04
[03:48] <subcool> Degru, im trying to get anything to work.
[03:48] <tama> excalibr bot are running ubuntu 12.04
[03:48] <subcool> when i open a browser and try to goto google, it says rejected
[03:48] <subcool> i am trying tp ping that IP address now.. and its paused on its first attempt
[03:49] <Degru> tama: OK, here's a guide on how to do this. Run it on the desktop. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95199/ubuntu-2-network-card-ip-forwarding
[03:49] <excalibr> tama: that should work without any problem. have you tried what i suggested?
[03:49] <selena2013> tama what exatly are you trying to do ?
[03:50] <Degru> selena2013: He's trying to connect a laptop to a desktop through ethernet that's connected through ethernet to a modem.
[03:50] <Degru> selena2013: basically use his desktop as an ethernet router
[03:50] <tama> excalibr I am sorry, I just can't figure out how to set up a connection sharing.
[03:50] <tama> thanks Degru, I'll try that now.
[03:51] <Degru> excalibr: yeah, i try to avoid nm whenever i can
[03:51] <chavezas> hola
[03:51] <Degru> !es
[03:51] <pepee> does anyone know how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/QRcJJrBm
[03:51] <selena2013> ooooo ok
[03:52] <toter> excalibr: Doesn't this process of sharing a connection between two computers require a crossover cable?
[03:52] <Degru> subcool: what version of ubuntu?
[03:52] <subcool> 12.04.1
[03:53] <DarkHalo> Hi i'm having trouble compiling a program I got from sourceforge
[03:54] <madbot> What's it's name?
[03:54] <closetoopen> anyone familiar with this message?
[03:54] <excalibr> toter: nope if it involves more than 1 network cards
[03:54] <excalibr> wait
[03:55] <madbot> DarkHalo, what app?
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make -C 3rdParty/libtsai
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/swistrack/3rdParty/libtsai'
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/swistrack/3rdParty/libtsai'
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make -C 3rdParty/camshift_wrapper
[03:55] <DarkHalo> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/swistrack/3rdParty/camshift_wrapper'
[03:55] <DarkHalo> Makefile:48: camshift_wrapper.d: No such file or directory
[03:55] <FloodBot1> DarkHalo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <DarkHalo> Makefile:48: capture.d: No such file or directory
[03:55] <DarkHalo> cc -MM -I/usr/include/opencv -I/usr/lib/include/opencv capture.c > capture.d;
[03:55] <selena2013> omg
[03:55] <madbot> hold on buddy use pastebin
[03:56] <Degru> subcool: can you ping any other devices on the network?
[03:56] <subcool> Degru, no
[03:56] <subcool> wired or wireless.
[03:57] <subcool> its acting like it has a windows  virus
[03:57] <subcool> it was just working a couple hours ago- when i didnt hvae a firewall router
[03:57] <subcool> thing is- my home modem is a router-
[03:57] <patr|ck_> Good Morning, good day. What is >Evince< please?
[03:57] <Degru> well there's your problem
[03:57] <subcool> Degru, what? a virus?
[03:57] <DarkHalo> http://pastebin.com/8g691yAr
[03:57] <madbot> patr|ck_, simply a document viewer
[03:58] <madbot> quote from their own website
[03:58] <selena2013> we don see much virus in linux ubuntu
[03:58] <closetoopen> i am attempting to install synaptic package manager and i recieve the message CD/DVD 'Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120822.4)' is required  Please insert the above CD/DVD into the drive '/media/cdrom/' to install software packages from it.
[03:58] <madbot> i googled it
[03:58] <madbot> :D
[03:58] <patr|ck_> a virus is a malformed, poisoned portion of code, is that halfway true?
[03:58] <Nimble> I had 6 /bin/bash processes earlier today and I have no idea where they came from
[03:58] <pepee> patr|ck_, Description: Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer
[03:58] <Degru> subcool: the firewall must be configure incorrectly on the computer
[03:58] <Nimble> "who" would show that they are logged in under pts/x where x is some number
[03:58] <patr|ck_> ah, thank you madbot and pepee
[03:58] <spence> scenario... source contain many files, destination contains subset of source... only update source files existing on destination. rsync??
[03:58] <closetoopen> i have no disc drive and my live cd is a usb drive. can anyone walk me thru this?
[03:58] <madbot> patr|ck_, more like a program designed to exploit then damage the systems while infecting others hopefully
[03:59] <Nimble> but there were no associated ssh processes for them
[03:59] <madbot> malformed code is called a bug
[03:59] <pepee> patr|ck_, your package manager should give you a description about it
[03:59] <Degru> closetoopen: so what are you trying to do?
[03:59] <madbot> :>
[03:59] <patr|ck_> heh, hopefully
[03:59] <Nimble> anyone know why that might be?
[03:59] <patr|ck_> thats interesting for an answer
[03:59]  * patr|ck_ thinks about it
[03:59] <patr|ck_> thank you and peace out
[03:59] <selena2013> peace
[03:59] <jbuncher> Just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and I can't get the "Set Up Mail...." entry in the messaging-menu to change to what it should be for thunderbird (thunderbird was already set up in 10.04).  I have tried reinstalling thunderbird and thunderbird-globalmenu, uninstalling evolution, logging in and out, and restarting with no luck.  Thoughts?
[03:59] <closetoopen> any ideas?
[03:59] <Degru> paddy: when in doubt type "man program"
[04:00] <madbot> jbuncher, did you clear out any old configs
[04:00] <Degru> jbuncher: did you use the dist upgrade or is it a fresh install?
[04:00] <paddy> Degru, i really should remember that simple one :D
[04:00] <jbuncher> Degru, used dist upgrade
[04:00] <madbot> the config files in your .config folder .thunderbird and other hidden folders would probably contain old configs which may not be compatible the the newer version
[04:00] <jbuncher> madbot, not sure where those would be?
[04:01] <tama> Ok, I've read and I think I understand that article. I'll try reboot my network now, thanks. :D
[04:01] <subcool> Degru, my firewall? - it was working - i only have ufw. and i even disabled it
[04:01] <madbot> ~/.config or ~/.thunderbird and a few other places maybe
[04:01] <Degru> jbuncher: dist upgrades are extremely messy since tons of old configs are not removed. In the future, always do a fresh install.
[04:01] <madbot> usually when you do a big upgrade like that you should carefully go through your configs
[04:02] <jbuncher> Degru, I've upgraded since Breezy :P
[04:02] <pepee> jbuncher, http://askubuntu.com/a/15604 last para.
[04:02] <closetoopen> anyone read the message at all?
[04:02] <Nimble> is it normal for "last -i" to show shells being opened and closed while no one is using the computer?
[04:02] <jbuncher> madbot, doesn't look like there's anything thunderbird related in ~/.config/  will check .thunderbird, but that makes me nervous as I don't want to wipe my accounts
[04:02] <pepee> closetoopen, it should work automatically
[04:02] <Degru> Degru: well, the new unity interface royally screwed everything up, so you should just clear out your configs.
[04:03] <Degru> jbuncher: ^^
[04:03] <closetoopen> i have recieved no promt for it
[04:03] <madbot> jbuncher, you're looking for config files not the downloaded emails+attachments
[04:03] <subcool> Degru, network manager often eorr
[04:03] <pepee> closetoopen, ah, duh, remove the CD from the repos list
[04:03] <subcool> Degru, error's or crashes...
[04:04] <closetoopen> prompt*
[04:04] <jbuncher> pepee, I saw that earlier, and it doesn't seem applicable.  Which part are you thinking specifically?
[04:04] <pepee> software sources or something like that
[04:04] <closetoopen> how do i do that? i am fairly linux newb and dumb to it
[04:04] <Degru> subcool: Try disabling the firewall completely or connecting directly to your modem and see if that works.
[04:04] <pepee> jbuncher, "If for any reason you want to re-enable Set Up Mail, simply remove the file ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist/evolution"
[04:04] <madbot> closetoopen, where are you at?
[04:05] <subcool> Degru, i have
[04:05] <subcool> i just uninstall my firewall
[04:05] <subcool> i can only ping the router, and myslef.
[04:05] <madbot> did you actually start an install or just sitting there with a bootable stick? Did you make the bootable stick yet?
[04:05] <jbuncher> pepee, that file doesn't exist for me
[04:05] <airlynx> I need help, I was trying to install the proprietary drivers for my Radeon, followed the instructions to enable POSIX shared memory here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122712 and the drivers appeared to install properly, but now Ubuntu will not boot.  It says something in the startup messages about mount /dev/shm terminated with status 1 but it still started a few things after that
[04:05] <subcool> 127.0.0.1, 192.168.2.1 <-- router
[04:05] <jbuncher> madbot, aren't the emails also stored in ~/.thunderbird/ though?
[04:06] <closetoopen> yes i used to startup disk creator and made the flash drive into a bootable live disc and im in BFE iowa
[04:06] <closetoopen> very slow internet
[04:06] <madbot> jbuncher, couldn't tell you off-hand. Often apps will store everything in their hidden folder in your home directory
[04:07] <Nach0z> hey guys, quick question: my Ubuntu isn't detecting my laptop's screen or anything, so the resolution is stuck at like, 800x600, on a 1366x768 laptop. anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:07] <Nach0z> also xorg.conf doesn't seem to exist, but based on another ubuntu installation I have that works fine, it may not be necessary. no idea. :D
[04:08] <madbot> Nach0z, sounds like a driver problem, xorg.conf by default doesn't exist
[04:08] <Degru> subcool: sudo iptables -F
[04:08] <tama> Wow! it works!
[04:08] <madbot> you need to make one if you want to configure xorg with one
[04:08] <tama> thank you Degru, excalibr :D
[04:08] <Degru> tama: glad to hear
[04:08] <Nach0z> ah. gotcha. well, any recommendations on how to solve this?
[04:09] <madbot> google
[04:09] <madbot> :D
[04:09] <tama> one thing. Do I always need to do this everytime I want to connect or restart my computers?
[04:09] <Degru> tam
[04:09] <subcool> Degru, ok--
[04:09] <Degru> tama: lemme see
[04:09] <subcool> Degru, was something supposed to happen?
[04:10] <madbot> tama if you do then just add the command to the startup software or your .xinit or whatever init stage its necessary on.
[04:10] <closetoopen> so how do i clear the repos to allow the boot disc to promt me for the update to my /cdrom/media dir...
[04:10] <madbot> tama look up on google about running software at startup
[04:11] <tama> thanks for the answer madbot :)
[04:11] <Degru> tama: I don't know. Try rebooting the desktop and check if it still works.
[04:11] <madbot> closetoopen, go to the Ubuntu software center and up in the menu click software souces
[04:11] <Degru> tama: If it stops, then enter the commands again
[04:11] <spence> problem: source contain many files, destination contains subset of source... only update source files existing on destination. rsync??
[04:11] <madbot> after that look at the bottom of that window and check off the CD-ROM/DVD repo
[04:11] <Degru> tama: You could also put them into a script to make it easy
[04:12] <Nimble> can anyone help me with some suspicious reports from "last"?
[04:12] <closetoopen> ok im in software sources
[04:12] <madbot> if your machine can see a new disc with packages it'll autoprompt  you about installing them or updating stuff
[04:12] <madbot> Nimble, like what?
[04:13] <Nimble> madbot, ghost pts processes
[04:13] <Nimble> I had four terminals open but ten pseudoterminals open under my user name
[04:13] <Nimble> and I don't know why
[04:14] <Nimble> I can pastebin the output of last if you want
[04:14] <madbot> Nimblec please do
[04:14] <closetoopen> no propt came forth
[04:14] <closetoopen> prompt*
[04:15] <airlynx> Okay, I reversed my changes to /etc/fstab but since I installed the proprietary drivers for my Radeon Ubuntu 12.10 still will not boot up.  How do I reverse the changes?
[04:15] <litropy> I'm bored with my box. I'm looking for something new and fun to do with it. Ideas?
[04:15] <Nimble> madbot: http://pastebin.com/SxTsN6vT
[04:15] <madbot> litropy, bitcoin mining
[04:15] <selena2013> yea download celementine and listen to music lol
[04:15] <subcool> Degru, what was that supposed to do?
[04:15] <litropy> madbot, your idea is now on the list. May have questions later.
[04:16] <Degru> tama: here's a script if the commands reset: http://pastebin.com/bWu6KMcb Click download, rename the file to router_script.sh, and then type chmod +x router_script.sh . Then run it every time you boot to enable the sharing. If you changed the commands in any way, make sure to edit them in the file.
[04:16] <Degru> subcool: didn't work?
[04:16] <subcool> Degru, i cant ping anything now.
[04:16] <subcool> Degru, i still have my Ip addresses... 192.168.2.5 and 2.9
[04:17] <subcool> i cant even ping 127.
[04:17] <Degru> subcool: i honestly don't know anything about this.
[04:17] <Degru> subcool: try rebooting
[04:17] <DarkHalo> If i downloaded a program from sourceforge and when I go to make it, it says there are directories that aren't there when they are. would it be an ownership issue?
[04:17] <Nimble> madbot: I should also add the pseudoterminals corresponding to my gnome-terminals were on display :0.0 while the others were on :0
[04:17] <Degru> subcool: if it still doesn't work then try connecting the computer directly to your modem.
[04:17] <tama> thanks Degru :D
[04:18] <subcool> Degru, i am directly connected to the modem
[04:18] <subcool> the modem is a router
[04:18] <litropy> DarkHalo, are you sure you're in the right directory?
[04:18] <subcool> is verison
[04:18] <subcool> ive rebooted a few times.
[04:18] <Degru> subcool: oh
[04:18] <Degru> subcool: have you rebooted after the command?
[04:18] <subcool> doing it now
[04:18] <closetoopen> no dice im not recieving any prompts and still getting the error
[04:19] <Degru> subcool: try removing all connections in network manager, and then reconnecting.
[04:19] <subcool> done it
[04:19] <Degru> subcool: well then i'm out of ideas
[04:19] <subcool> i want to remove network manager.. but- then im kinda screwed
[04:19] <litropy> subcool, I just came in. What's going on?
[04:19] <madbot> Nimble I don't see anything particularly suspicious about that last but it seems like there are definately some terminal processes that are exiting abnormally giving you lots of the no logout messages
[04:20] <Degru> litropy: he can't ping anything but himself and his router.
[04:20] <subcool> litropy, wired or wireless
[04:20] <Nimble> madbot: is it possible that they could come from gnome-terminal processes I didn't close before logging out of my session?
[04:20] <subcool> used a liveusb, hardware works
[04:20] <litropy> subcool, degru, is there something oyu did to make this happen?
[04:20] <Nimble> I used the logout menu item in unity
[04:21] <Degru> litropy: i googled it and told him to do sudo iptables -F
[04:21] <Degru> litropy: then reboot
[04:21] <litropy> subcool, are you sure your modem is connected to the Internet?
[04:21] <Degru> subcool: have you tried pinging other devices on the network?
[04:21] <madbot> Nimble, maybe try experimenting that out
[04:22] <Nimble> madbot, will do
[04:22] <litropy> subcool, have you tried using another box to check to see if it's an issue with your router./modem?
[04:22] <Nimble> thanks
[04:22] <madbot> often no logout means something was terminated prematurely
[04:22] <subcool> Degru, yes i've tried to ping other things. i even had the router ping the client.. and it failed
[04:22] <madbot> like hard shutting off your computer
[04:22] <DarkHalo> I think so
[04:22] <subcool> when i goto a browser and go for google, it says rejected
[04:22] <subcool> im on anotehr laptop now..
[04:22] <subcool> so is a couple other comptuer and my phones
[04:22] <DarkHalo> litropy, I think i'm in the right dir
[04:22] <subcool> this computer is the only one with an issue
[04:22] <Lofde_> subcool, thats a pretty good pc then
[04:23] <subcool> i put a liveusb on- and its works
[04:23] <subcool> it was working fine 6 hours ago when i was at a family members house
[04:23] <Degru> subcool: then it's probably just a matter of resetting network config.
[04:23] <subcool> infact- it was the only computer ihad that did work
[04:23] <subcool> i unstinall ufw
[04:23] <subcool> im seriosly at a loss
[04:23] <Degru> subcool: what's ufw
[04:23] <subcool> networm manager crashes occasionally while trying to setup network stuff or editing configs
[04:24] <subcool> ubuntu fire wall
[04:24] <Degru> subcool: i'll google on how to reset all nm and other network settings
[04:24] <closetoopen> any more ideas. i am recieving none of the prompts i am supposed to be getting. i know for a fact my flash drive is configured as a live boot disc because i used startup disc creator to make it so from the iso i downloaded from the ubuntu website yet i still get the error and no prompts to upgrade the /cdrom/media dir with new packages eventhough it is saying packages are missing
[04:25] <airlynx> Can I do a reinstall of Ubuntu without affecting any of the current MBR or grub configurations?
[04:25] <selena2013> i recommend  to use unetbootin  for usb installs
[04:26] <Degru> airlynx: I don't know about normal ubuntu, but I installed kubuntu 12.10 on my ubuntu partition and the grub remained exactly the same and worked fine.
[04:26] <litropy> subcool, sudo apt-get install networkmanager --reinstall
[04:26] <litropy> subcool, it prob won't do anything, but what the hell.
[04:27] <DarkHalo> So i'm trying to install this and i'm having some issues making the program
[04:27] <DarkHalo> http://bit.ly/13AFWrG
[04:27] <litropy> subcool, nevermind, you can't connect
[04:27] <Degru> subcool: actually it's "sudo apt-get remove --purge networkmanager && sudo apt-get install networkmanager
[04:27] <Degru> subcool: but without a network connection it will probably not work on the second part
[04:27] <litropy> subcool, don't do it - you'll lose nm
[04:28] <subcool> litropy, lol- yea.. i was just about to say that
[04:28] <Degru> litropy: you could download the proper package on a different computer, copy it over, and do dpkg -i
[04:28] <litropy> Degru, aside: why not just --reinstall?
[04:28] <BlueNexus> whats a good app or emmulator for ubuntu that can run Droid apps?
[04:28] <Degru> litropy: because --purge clears configs and stuff... i think
[04:28] <BlueNexus> if i may ask please
[04:28] <subcool> Degru, i was thinking that too..
[04:29] <Degru> BlueNexus: The Android SDK has a pretty good one, and it's the official one too.
[04:29] <Degru> BlueNexus: but it's slow, so don't expect to be running games on it.
[04:29] <closetoopen> am i on my own to fix this issue?
[04:29] <BlueNexus> okay, thanks i'll look into that
[04:30] <Degru> closetoopen: can't help since I don't have any experience whatsoever with this kind of stuff
[04:30] <Degru> closetoopen: I just use YUMI to put ubuntu on a flashdrive and install it.
[04:30] <nurupo> Degru: too slow
[04:31] <litropy> subcool, what does it say when you ping ubuntu.com
[04:33] <subcool> nothing- it just sits and waits ... until i cancel the command
[04:33] <Wiky> I use libreoffice 3.5 to export .odt to .pdf in ubuntu 12.04,but the formula is  out of shape
[04:33] <madbot> closetoopen, so nothing huh? where are you at in the process?
[04:33] <Degru> subcool: download this on another computer, run "sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager" on the broken computer, and then use dpkg -i to install the downloaded package. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/net/network-manager
[04:33] <Degru> subcool: then reboot.
[04:34] <subcool> i was just there- :)
[04:34] <subcool> k- im on it
[04:34] <madbot> closetoopen, I'm confused as to what point you managed to get to if at all
[04:34] <goodtime> Degru: i just installed ubuntu precise pangolin 12.04lts and then i apt-get install kde-full and now i have 2 GUI's , one is unity and the other is ked plasma desktop for kubuntu,so now when i log in i just need to choose a platform ,plasma or unity to boot from ,so now i dont need 2 operating systems to have bolth os's.
[04:34] <madbot> from my perspective it seems the usb isn't booting at all
[04:35] <goodtime> grub isnt even an issue the either
[04:35] <Degru> goodtime: have we chatted before? sorry, i don't remember
[04:35] <jbuncher> well, I can't seem to find a way around that thunderbird bug.  Thanks anyway.
[04:35] <goodtime> \idk
[04:35] <goodtime> maybe
[04:35] <litropy> subcool, after you reboot, don't do anything other than open a terminal, ping ubuntu.com, wait for like 10 secs, then run dmesg and paste your terminal contents into paste.ubuntu.com ... and ya, you're gonna need to stick your terminal contents on a thumbdrive and then use another computer to upload.
[04:36] <Degru> goodtime: did i suggest to install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:36] <litropy> cancel the ping of course, subcool.
[04:36] <goodtime> naw it was my own idea
[04:36] <Degru> goodtime: then why'd you send it to me?
[04:37] <goodtime> i learnd that trick once when i bought a eepc
[04:37] <nurupo> lol
[04:37] <goodtime> i was running xandros then
[04:37] <nurupo> trick to ask random people?
[04:37] <goodtime> i hated the gui
[04:37] <Degru> goodtime: don't see how it's relevant to me.
[04:37] <selena2013> lol
[04:37] <goodtime> thats how i found out how to install 2 GUI'S
[04:38] <Degru> although i AM running kubuntu at the moment
[04:38] <selena2013> lots of kubuntu fans
[04:38] <goodtime> iam
[04:38] <Degru> lot more stable and configurable than the unity crap.
[04:39] <selena2013> o you dont say that
[04:39] <selena2013> i love Unity
[04:39] <selena2013> lol
[04:40] <goodtime> yeah i tweeked this GUI alot it looks very cool now
[04:40] <selena2013> KDE is kool
[04:40] <nurupo> the KMix in kubuntu for some reason crashed on me today because i was clicking mute/unmute constantly. it never crashed before, when i was doing the same thing -_-
[04:41] <Degru> selena2013: how it looks and behaves, yes. but then once you realize that you can't change anything without royally screwing unity up and that sometimes it randomly stops working, it gets pretty frustrating.
[04:41] <nurupo> *when i was clicking
[04:41] <BulletBull> What's up guys.
[04:41] <Degru> nurupo: did it screw anything up? can you change audio still?
[04:41] <Cache_Money> I want to write all of the file names in my current directory to a file.  How do I do this?
[04:42] <goodtime> hmm dcc isnt working good?
[04:42] <Degru> Cache_Money: ls > file.txt
[04:42] <selena2013> Degru thats fine we all have our fav distribution , we help and learn to love linux together is all good.
[04:42] <Cache_Money> Degru: thanks
[04:42] <Degru> selena2013: yep
[04:42] <nurupo> Degru: it asked me if i want to restart the crashed application - i agreed and the problem got solved.
[04:43] <Degru> nurupo: well that's good.
[04:43] <Degru> only problem with kmix i've had was it using my hdmi volume instead of my speaker volume. i cleared that up pretty quickly.
[04:44] <unheeding> volumeicon is best volumer
[04:45] <dasound08> Hello
[04:45] <Degru> unheeding: kmix has better support and integration for kde, so i'll stay with that since it works.
[04:45] <dasound08> Can anyone help with the issue of sound not streaming through firefox
[04:45] <unheeding> Degru: desktop environmets are for babies! :P
[04:45] <unheeding> dasound08: try using pavucontrol and seeing if it's muted
[04:46] <Cache_Money> How do I move all of the files in my current directory into a new folder in the same directory?
[04:46] <Degru> unheeding: What was that tiling window manager that had no panels or anything whatsoever?
[04:46] <dasound08> @unheeding, is that a package installed
[04:46] <unheeding> i3 maybe.
[04:46] <unheeding> dasound08: yes
[04:46] <unheeding> Degru: i use compiz+tint2, i'm not that hardcore
[04:47] <litropy> Cache_Money, I don't have the answer off-hand. You might find help here, but I'll tell ya it sounds like you'd be interested in this chan: #bash
[04:47] <litropy> Cache_Money, because you're using a Bash terminal.
[04:47] <Degru> unheeding: oh yeah, xmonad. I configured it to have a minimal panel at the top, tohugh.
[04:47] <unheeding> tint2 is a great panel
[04:47] <Cache_Money> litropy: good idea.  thanks
[04:48] <Degru> litropy: this is the most active channel, so most people go here
[04:48] <litropy> Degru, I know.
[04:49] <litropy> Degru, but #bash has answers 24/7, I find.
[04:49] <Degru> litropy: never found a need to go over there, though.
[04:49] <litropy> Degru, Cache_Money, it's a fun chan to lurk.
[04:51] <litropy> Degru, Cache_Money: Lots of programmers keep it open just to hone their skills. The same people active in that chan have consistently been there for years.
[04:51] <subcool> litropy, Degru http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584279
[04:51] <Degru> litropy: not nearly as much activity as here though.
[04:51] <litropy> subcool, checking
[04:52] <litropy> Degru, true. But it doesn't hurt to ask there if you don't get an answer here. It's got about a 5 minute response rate, I've found.
[04:53] <Degru> lines 1016-1021 show that the ufw firewall is still trying to start despite it being uninstalled
[04:53] <Degru> that could be the problem
[04:54] <subcool> ufw: command not found
[04:54] <nurupo> subcool: >despite it being uninstalled
[04:54] <t4nk902> hi to all of you ,I am new to Ubuntu12.10 earlier i was using Windows Platform. On Ubuntu I am not able to configure Wifi but the driver is Showing in Additional Driver
[04:55] <dasound08> @unheeding, it isn't muted and I do get the system sound... just can't get no streaming music or youtube sound...
[04:56] <Degru> lines 1041 to 1057 show that eth0 and wlan0 appear to be down, with ufw still trying to start throughout the entire process
[04:56] <Degru> subcool: ^^
[04:56] <jbuncher> Degru, apparently I had to uninstall and reinstall both thunderbird and thunderbird-global menu to take care of that bug earlier.
[04:57] <Degru> jbuncher: well, at least it works
[04:57] <subcool> Degru, ok...? not sure what to do about that..
[04:57] <subcool> lol
[04:57] <dasound08> Is there anyone that can help with sound issues.. I am sorta new to ubuntu 12.04lts..
[04:57] <litropy> subcool, you can ping your router just fine?
[04:57] <K350> Is there any web-based administration tool for glftpd?
[04:58] <dasound08> I am getting system sounds, but NO streaming music or youtube..
[04:58] <t4nk902> hi to all of you ,Can any bodey help me ,I am new to Ubuntu12.10 earlier i was using Windows Platform. On Ubuntu I am not able to configure Wifi but the driver is Showing in Additional Driver
[04:58] <unheeding> t4nk902: did you install it
[04:58] <subcool> litropy, i could before,, idk abou tnow
[04:58] <t4nk902> yes i instl from net
[04:58] <subcool> litropy, the uninstall removed my plasma interface..
[04:58] <subcool> litropy, im not sure hwo to even establish a connection now.
[04:58] <Degru> subcool: sudo dpkg --purge ufw
[04:59] <Degru> subcool: reboot and try again
[04:59] <coolmanlg> I am on an intranet that is not connected to the internet and a wifi router with connection to the Internet. When am connected to the router, I can browse the Internet but cannot browse my LAN with my Ethernet cable connected.
[04:59] <jbuncher> Degru, indeed, thanks for the help.
[04:59] <coolmanlg> What am I doing wrong?
[04:59] <t4nk902> unheeding: yes from net and Instruction but i do not know the driver name i do not Remember
[04:59] <subcool> Degru, k
[04:59] <unheeding> coolmanlg: are you trying to connect to another computer on your lan?
[05:00] <Degru> subcool: and remember to reinstall network-manager after this.
[05:00] <saluki23> new OS coming, it is called sealion http://i.imgur.com/b2tlzwU.jpg
[05:00] <litropy> subcool, ugh. Ya know, this chan is supposed to help you get around this, but I gotta tell ya: I'd be considering just backing up everything I need, then doing a clean install at this point. One last thing I'd do is log into my router's interface and make sure it's not set to block my computer.
[05:00] <subcool> Degru, so- uninstall ufw. and install the manager again
[05:01] <coolmanlg> unheeding: yes.
[05:01] <Degru> subcool: yes
[05:01] <subcool> litropy, already checked the router
[05:01] <litropy> subcool, k.
[05:01] <subcool> Degru, litropy my system is pretty setup for that already. i have Home in a diffrent partition
[05:01] <coolmanlg> unheeding: It connects to the Internet but I can't access my LAN.
[05:01] <Degru> subcool: not uninstall, purge. "sudo dpkg --purge ufw". Then "sudo dpkg -i network-managerblahblahblah.deb"
[05:01] <unheeding> is it a windows share?
[05:02] <subcool> Degru, ya- i got ya
[05:02] <subcool> brb
[05:02] <subcool> tahnks btw
[05:02] <subcool> u guys are a life saver
[05:02] <litropy> subcool, sounds good. I mean, you won't learn anything, but it's certainly an option I'd be considering.
[05:02] <Degru> subcool: if that doesn't work just reinstall, since you have home on a different partition.
[05:04] <t4nk902> hi to all of you ,I am new to Ubuntu12.10 earlier i was using Windows Platform. On Ubuntu I am not able to configure Wifi but the driver is Showing in Additional Driver
[05:04] <coolmanlg> unheeding: No. it's an intranet web app on the server.
[05:04] <dasound08> so, there is NO sound help here..
[05:04] <unheeding> coolmanlg: can you ping the server?
[05:04] <Degru> t4nk902: then install whatever it says
[05:05] <Degru> dasound08: describe specifically your problem.
[05:05] <t4nk902> Deqru:I have Instal which it Said but Still it is not working
[05:06] <dasound08> @degru  I go to www.noisetrade.com to listen to music and it will not play anything.. but, I can get system sounds..
[05:06] <coolmanlg> unheeding: No.
[05:07] <Degru> t4nk902: what kind of driver is it
[05:07] <unheeding> are you sure you're connected to the right network?  can you access the web app from another computer?
[05:07] <Degru> dasound08: perhaps the volume for the browser is lowered? try playing an mp3
[05:08] <coolmanlg> unheeding: I can access the web from another system. When I disconnect the Internet router, I can connect browse the LAN
[05:08] <dasound08> I have tried almost everything possible, can not get any music to play..
[05:08] <Degru> t4nk902: or, more specifically, type out whatever it's telling you to install. I had a problem like this with a different card.
[05:08] <Degru> dasound08: even local mp3's?
[05:09] <unheeding> coolmanlg: is your router connected to the lan?
[05:10] <t4nk902> Degru: Broadcom802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernalsource
[05:10] <Degru> t4nk902: oh, I've dealt with this before on my dell inspiron 1501. Wait a moment.
[05:10] <coolmanlg> unheeding: No. I connect to it via wireless and it gives it's IP different from the LAN IP
[05:10] <saluki23> I have tried almost everything possible, can not get any music to play..> have you tried puppy linux?
[05:11] <unheeding> coolmanlg: but is the computer you are trying to connect to connected to the router?
[05:11] <coolmanlg> unheeding: The LAN is via Ethernet cable
[05:11] <coolmanlg> unheeding: The computer am trying to connect to is on the LAN. It's actually my web server
[05:11] <t4nk902> Degru: I am usnig 3000 N 100 Lenove(2006 Model)
[05:12] <unheeding> coolmanlg: but is the web server connected to the internet via the router?
[05:12] <Degru> t4nk902: go to the driver thing and remove it.
[05:13] <coolmanlg> unheeding: I use the router to connect to the internet on machine. My LAN is not on the Internet.
[05:13] <Degru> t4nk902: tell me when done
[05:14] <unheeding> coolmanlg: that would be the problem.  when you're connected to the router, that's what you're connected to.  you should put everything through the router, unless you don't want your web server accessed from the web (lol)
[05:15] <Degru> t4nk902: basically, go to the driver thing and uninstall all the wifi drivers. Then, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer". Finally, reboot and see if wifi works.
[05:17] <Degru> t4nk902: when it asks you for a password, enter yours. don't worry when it doesn't show your typing; that's the equivelant of the **** in other password prompts.
[05:17] <Degru> t4nk902: if it says something like "y or n" type y and press enter.
[05:18] <DJRWolf> anyone know if System76 is a good OEM? I've checked out their web site and they seem high quality but want to hear from what others think of them
[05:19] <selena2013> i have a friend that got of their laptops
[05:19] <Degru> DJRWolf: This is a ubuntu channel, not hardware channel.
[05:19] <selena2013> he said they awesome
[05:19] <histo> !polls | DJRWolf
[05:19] <dasound08> @degru sorry for the delay... I was trying something else and I did get an mp3 to play.. Still can't get noisetrade.com to play..
[05:20] <coolmanlg> unheeding: The LAN is on another network accessed by other users. The internet is personal. So I can't connect to the Internet and also have access to my LAN?
[05:20] <dasound08> what version are you using and could you listen to noisetrade.com..  Just curious!!
[05:20] <histo> coolmanlg: the router doesn't manage the LAN?
[05:20] <histo> that's an unusual setup
[05:21] <unheeding> coolmanlg: check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/10741/how-to-set-up-dual-wired-and-wireless-connections
[05:21] <Degru> dasound08: look through the mixer stuff and see if you can find something that has different levels for different applications. Then see if your browser or flash is turned down.
[05:22] <subcool> litropy, Degru http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584317
[05:22] <Degru> dasound08: also, can you listen to youtube videos?
[05:22] <dasound08> @degru ALL levels are up..
[05:22] <Middwest> Howdy
[05:22] <litropy> subcool, did you reinstall?
[05:24] <subcool> litropy, yes
[05:24] <litropy> subcool, and you still can't ping out?
[05:24] <histo> coolmanlg: the search option in your /etc/network/interfaces needs to be set properly
[05:24] <Degru> litropy: the interfaces are down.
[05:24] <subcool> litropy, i did what u asked..
[05:25] <subcool> i havent pinged anything else.
[05:25] <subcool> Degru, ya- im not sure how it would connect to anything.. i think ih ave to include a plasma widget or something
[05:25] <Degru> subcool: can it ping?
[05:25] <Degru> subcool: ping google.com
[05:26] <litropy> subcool, did you reinstall networkmanager or did you reinstall ubuntu?
[05:26] <subcool> unknonw host
[05:26] <subcool> i resintalled networkmanager
[05:26] <litropy> subcool, that's better than nothing
[05:26] <Degru> subcool: well, looks liek it still doesn't work.
[05:26] <saivan> como desistalo lubuntu desktop
[05:26] <litropy> subcool, are you connected via ethernet or via wifi?
[05:26] <subcool> litropy, nothing
[05:27] <Degru> subcool: try restarting the interfaces.
[05:27] <subcool> i just did an ifocnfig
[05:27] <litropy> subcool, try connecting via ethernet
[05:27] <subcool> there is no ipaddress
[05:27] <subcool> k-
[05:27] <Degru> subcool: does ethernet work?
[05:27] <Guest82571> I want to stop online serch  suggestion when i serch on dash home .Is there any way?
[05:28] <DJRWolf> Degru: System76 only ships it's computers with Ubuntu
[05:28] <selena2013> go to settings privacy and disable
[05:28] <Degru> Guest82571: I don't think so.
[05:28] <histo> Guest82571: remove the unity-shopping-lens or change privacy settings
[05:28] <histo> Degru: sure there is
[05:28] <litropy> Degru, doesn't eth0 come up automatically when it senses a connection
[05:28] <selena2013> is in settings privacy
[05:28] <Degru> DJRWolf: Yeah, but this is about the OS, not computers with the OS on it.
[05:28] <Guest82571> Thanks Degru & histo
[05:28] <Degru> litropy: depends on whether there's a nm running.
[05:29] <Degru> Oh I know.
[05:29] <Degru> subcool: are you in kde or gnome?
[05:29] <histo> DJRWolf: Dell also ships PCs with ubuntu on it if you need a PC with linux preloaded.
[05:29] <histo> for an alternative
[05:29] <servvs> would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot some vpn connection issues?
[05:29] <subcool> Degru, kde- i plugged in my eth. instantly got an ip addres.. trying to ping google. and its sitting and stalling again.
[05:29] <histo> litropy: depends on /etc/network/interfaces settings
[05:29] <subcool> ill go and copy the dmesg
[05:29] <histo> !ask | servvs
[05:29] <DJRWolf> histo: I though Dell droped Ubuntu because of pressure from MS? or was that HP?
[05:30] <litropy> subcool, wait
[05:30] <histo> DJRWolf: I can still order systems with Ubuntu on it from my partner portal
[05:30] <selena2013> yes but they are back selling ubuntu laptops
[05:30] <Degru> subcool: in terminal, type pgrep nm-applet and tell me if there is output.
[05:30] <litropy> subcool, what interfaces are you showing when you ifconfig
[05:30] <subcool> litropy, eth0 coupel vmnets and my wifi
[05:31] <histo> DJRWolf: everyone I know that has system76 loves their hardware
[05:31] <servvs> I am having issues with connecting to a VPN. It appears to be connecting but it doesn't seem to be routing my internet traffic. For instance, when I type in "what is my ip" in google, it says my actual ip and not the one I should have from the vps
[05:31] <insomniac_lemon> I'm trying to make a personal install script, is there a way to make installing applications and adding repositories silent?
[05:31] <DJRWolf> histo: must have been HP that droped Ubuntu from their selection then
[05:31] <litropy> subcool, try what degru suggested
[05:31] <Degru> subcool: which ones have an IP? (excluding vmnets)
[05:31] <subcool> litropy, Degru nothing.
[05:31] <subcool> Eth0
[05:31] <Degru> subcool: run "pgrep nm-applet" and tell me if there is any output.
[05:31] <insomniac_lemon> For sudo apt-get install, -y -qq does not give a silence
[05:31] <litropy> subcool, ^^
[05:31] <subcool> Degru, there is non
[05:31] <DJRWolf> histo: now that is what I'm asking, not opionions but what people who own one are saying, thank you
[05:32] <Degru> subcool: run nm-applet
[05:32] <coolmanlg> histo: the router doesn't manage the LAN.
[05:32] <subcool> Degru, says the app can be found in network-manager-gnome
[05:33] <Degru> subcool: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:33] <subcool> Degru, (no network)
[05:33] <litropy> degru, he's not connected
[05:33] <subcool> ill dl it now
[05:33] <coolmanlg> histo:how do I set the searh option in /etc/network/interfaces please
[05:34] <subcool> litropy, dpkg -i for install?
[05:34] <insomniac_lemon> Also, how to I install chrome using just terminal, so far adding the repository ruins my .list file and if I edit out the deb-src line it fixes it
[05:34] <Degru> subcool: yes
[05:35] <Degru> subcool: sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[05:35] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: do you want the actual chrome or the open-source browser it's based on that's virtually the same?
[05:35] <insomniac_lemon> actual chrome
[05:36] <insomniac_lemon> chrome stable
[05:36] <Degru> oh ok
[05:36] <Degru> lemme find a link
[05:36] <insomniac_lemon> I tried sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' but that ruins my .list file
[05:36] <servvs> I am having issues with connecting to a VPN. It appears to be connecting but it doesn't seem to be routing my internet traffic. For instance, when I type in "what is my ip" in google, it says my actual ip and not the one I should have from the vps
[05:36] <trollboy> Howdy, so I'm installing Ubuntu Server, I have 1 500GB, and 3 2TB drives.  I've enough 3TB drives to make a raid 5 array, I select 3 drives on the md screen then 0 spares.. and it tells me I only selected 2 drives which isn't enough
[05:36] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: 32-bit or 64-bit?
[05:36] <trollboy> Ubuntu Server 12.10 64Bit
[05:37] <Degru> trollboy: was talking to insomniac_lemon
[05:37] <insomniac_lemon> Degru I know how to install it from the deb Degru, I'm trying to do it from terminal
[05:37] <insomniac_lemon> If that's what you're trying to say
[05:37] <trollboy> Oh sorry, I didn't even see you ask Degru, merely being thorough, good looking out though
[05:37] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: you can download it from wget and get the deb that way
[05:38] <insomniac_lemon> Can'
[05:38] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: doesn't it automatically add the repos?
[05:38] <tama> hi. I am back.
[05:38] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: tell me your arch
[05:38] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, yes, but I was hoping I could add the repository instead so it was not dependant on architecture.
[05:39] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: the .deb package adds the repository for you.
[05:39] <insomniac_lemon> Yes, I know
[05:39] <Degru> tama: is the connection working out for you?
[05:40] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, I'm making a script, and I want it to be as machine-independant as possible
[05:40] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: oh, in that case i don't know.
[05:40] <insomniac_lemon> That's why I wanted to use a repository instead
[05:40] <tama> Degru yes thanks. :D
[05:40] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: chromium-browser package is virtually the same though.
[05:40] <tama> I just realized that if I put 192.168.1.1 (modem ip) on dns server box on the network properties of my laptop (192.168.0.2), the ping will freeze after a few lines.
[05:41] <tama> i've tried 127.0.0.1 as dns server but I can't connect.
[05:41] <tama> Is there something that I' missing?
[05:41] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, Chrome is more controlled by Google, like how it has Pepperflash instead of a straight adobe flash plugin
[05:41] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: well, i'll find something
[05:41] <Degru> tama: so you can't connect anymore?
[05:41] <tama> Yes Degru.
[05:41] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, do you know if there I can append my sources.list to add the repository instead?
[05:42] <tama> I should reload the network again if I want to connect.
[05:42] <insomniac_lemon> Automatically, using a command
[05:42] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: i'll look it up in a moment
[05:42] <tama> *I must
[05:42] <Degru> tama: oh, try running the stuff in the script
[05:43] <tama> Tried that, but it always need a network restart from the laptop.
[05:43] <Degru> tama: and after that it works?
[05:43] <tama> yes, onle to freeze again after a few miniutes.
[05:43] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: i'll look in my sources.list to see if I can find the correct repo
[05:43] <tama> *only
[05:43] <coolmanlg> unheeding: thanks for the link. I can browse my LAN webserver by typing the ip address. It doesn't take a name though. any work around for that?
[05:43] <Degru> tama: hmmm strange.
[05:44] <insomniac_lemon> I know the correct repo already, Degru
[05:44] <tama> what is this dns server?
[05:44] <unheeding> coolmanlg: add it to /etc/hosts
[05:44] <subcool> litropy, Degru it errors, due to dependencies
[05:44] <tama> Maybe it is freeze because my modem is old?
[05:44] <subcool> nm-applet errored too
[05:44] <insomniac_lemon> Although when I try to add it, it doesn't add correctly, Degru
[05:44] <unheeding> for instance, i have my server as "home" and it points at the public ip address
[05:44] <litropy> subcool, thought it might. You're gonna need to download those, too.
[05:44] <tama> how can I move this dns server from my modem to my PC?
[05:44] <Degru> tama: oh, you can try using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 for the dns
[05:44] <coolmanlg> unheeding: ok. Thanks.
[05:45] <subcool> litropy, lol - ok.. there are a bunch.. how long u gonna be around?
[05:45] <tama> Ok. I'll try that Degru thanks. :D
[05:45] <litropy> subcool, not sure.
[05:45] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, although the odd thing is, it does not show up in my sources.list file, although it is listed in Synaptic
[05:45] <tama> Btw, how can we get this 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4? default stuffs?
[05:46] <subcool> litropy, ok- ill try to rush..
[05:46] <litropy> Degru, any way subcool can use his CD for the dependencies?
[05:46] <Degru> tama: go to your network manager config on your laptop and find your ethernet connection. Click edit and see if you can find something to put the dns in
[05:46] <Degru> litropy: not sure. I'm not an expert. I've pretty much done all this through google and past experience.
[05:47] <Degru> litropy: he could try putting the cd in and doing apt-get install?
[05:48] <Degru> litropy: assuming the cd is in his sources
[05:48] <subcool> i dont have a cd- only usb
[05:48] <tama> Yes, I know how to do that. I just want to ask where did you get those numbers, Degru ? are they some kind of basic number for dns?
[05:48] <litropy> subcool, degru, check out this thread
[05:48] <litropy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264703
[05:48] <tama> btw it works great, thanks. :D
[05:48] <Degru> tama: they are the google dns servers
[05:49] <Degru> tama: i think the problem was that there was no dns server on the desktop so it couldn't connect or something.
[05:49] <tama> oh, I see. So I can go search another dns server on the internet to put it there right?
[05:49] <tama> thanks for the knowledge degru. :D
[05:49] <Degru> tama: yeah.
[05:49] <tama> That means I can install dns server on my laptop or pc, right? :D
[05:50] <tama> What is the different then? Internet speed?
[05:50] <Degru> tama: no, it's just if the standard dns doesn't work i use google dns.
[05:50] <tama> Oh, I see... :D
[05:51] <Degru> tama: you can use these dns ip's on both your desktop and laptop if you wish
[05:51] <Degru> tama: but if your desktop works fine already then there's no point messing with anything
[05:51] <tama> Ok, I'll remember that, thanks Degru. :D
[05:52] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, the issue is, when I add the repository, it doesn't work. It adds a binary and src repo, if I remove the src repo and sudo apt-get update it will install properly
[05:52] <tama> There is lot of things I want to try with these machines now. :D
[05:52] <JJJollyjim> Hello
[05:53] <nurupo> tama the tiger?
[05:53] <litropy> subcool, connect your computer via ethernet, run sudo dhclient eth0, then try to ping google.com
[05:53] <tama> right on nurupo. :D
[05:53] <c|oneman> hey guys, still me with the rootkit. i think bash may be targeted. Can I reinstall a clean bash?
[05:53]  * nurupo facepalms
[05:53] <litropy> subcool, don't include the word, 'run'
[05:54] <subcool> litropy, lol -ya..
[05:54] <tama> another fan of the show eh? hehehehe
[05:54] <Degru> c|oneman: that's pretty much reinstalling the entire os.
[05:54] <c|oneman> /bin/rbash /bin/fakebash /bin/bash and /bin/sh.distrib are all suspect
[05:54] <c|oneman> well just those 4 files
[05:55] <subcool> litropy, rtnetlink: file exists
[05:55] <Alen> I want to change my Partition using gpart partition editor.Its root and it has around 400 gb..I want it to 100 gb  root and 300  gb other.In editor no  resize option visible.Is there any other way without lost of data store in that drive.
[05:55] <litropy> subcool, I'm not sure what you mean. Did you try it? What happened?
[05:55] <PlastikSpork> Is there anyone that could help me get Conky to startup at boot up?
[05:55] <Degru> subcool: is it an error, or is it info? does it work now?
[05:57] <subcool> litropy, Degru it says rtnetlink answer: file exists
[05:57] <Degru> insomniac_lemon:
[05:57] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/12/install-google-chrome-using-apt-get-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[05:57] <subcool> thats what it returned with
[05:57] <Degru> subcool: does ping work?
[05:58] <Degru> subcool: ping google i mean
[05:58] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, I've been there already
[05:58] <Degru> insomniac_lemon: outdated?
[05:58] <subcool> Degru, no-
[05:59] <litropy> subcool, so what does it say when you sudo dhclient eth0?
[05:59] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, no, I'm trying to do it 100% automatically, the issue is how it's adding the repo, it's adding an src repo that it shouldn't
[05:59] <forumcash> hi
[06:00] <litropy> degru, I'm not sure if nm is going to work if this doesn't.
[06:00] <forumcash> how can I list users ho have root privlege
[06:00] <insomniac_lemon> Degru, this is my command: sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' It adds a bin repo and a source repo
[06:00] <subcool> litropy, RTNETLINK answers : file exists
[06:00] <Degru> litropy: do you remember how to do the eht0/wlan0 start/stop thing?
[06:01] <c|oneman> can I copy /bin/bash from a similar server with the same version of ubuntu
[06:01] <forumcash> how can I list users who have root privilege
[06:01] <litropy> degru, it hasn't been messed with. it doesn't need a restart.
[06:02] <Degru> forumcash: go into your groups file and look for the users under "wheel"?
[06:02] <Degru> litropy: but it said that the interface was down in the startup
[06:02] <forumcash> Degru: where is group file?
[06:02] <litropy> but: subcool: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 && /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:02] <Alen> Is there any way to resize root partition using terminal.
[06:03] <Degru> Alen: you could use fdisk, but i don't know how to use it
[06:03] <Equinox1> fdisk -l to list the disks
[06:03] <forumcash> Degru: i found it
[06:04] <Equinox1> !fdisk
[06:04] <forumcash> Degru: under etc
[06:04] <Alen> ya.#Degru.but is i change root thn system will stable or not?
[06:05] <Degru> Alen: It should be stable. make sure you run it from a live cd/usb.
[06:05] <Alen> Ok .
[06:05] <Degru> Alen: and if you're running it from live cd/usb, you might as well get gparted live and use that.
[06:05] <c|oneman> I did it I think.
[06:06] <Alen> It already istall.I will try from live cd.
[06:06] <Degru> forumcash: did you find the wheel thing?
[06:06] <judahitewarrior7> Can anyone help me? I am running an Ubuntu 12.10 Live CD, I am trying to reinstall Windows XP. I have reformatted the hard drive to NTFS but yet, my hard drive does not show up in the list of partitions. Can anyone please help?
[06:07] <judahitewarrior7> Windows XP setup does not recognize my hard drive.
[06:07] <PlastikSpork> I am trying to get conky to start on bootup... the command to get it running is "conky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc"  when I place this command in the startup applications it doesn't work.
[06:07] <forumcash> Degru: ther is no wheel but it is written admin:user names
[06:07] <PuFFs> judahitewarrior7:  Does BIOS reconized your hd?
[06:07] <judahitewarrior7> PuFFs: Yes
[06:07] <c|oneman> sata drivers?
[06:07] <Degru> forumcash: oh; look for sudo.
[06:08] <c|oneman> windows xp does not have sata drivers for many systems.. it wants you to load them from a floppy
[06:08] <forumcash> Degru: sudo:x:27:
[06:08] <Degru> judahitewarrior7: must be something with ahci?
[06:08] <Degru> forumcash: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:08] <forumcash> Degru: i think 12.04
[06:09] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: I can't even mount the floppy in Ubuntu 12.10, it doesn't work.
[06:09] <Degru> forumcash: does it have the new unity thing?
[06:09] <subcool> litropy, didnt work
[06:09] <forumcash> Degru: it has but i have to use terminal
[06:09] <litropy> subool, after you do that, run sudo dhclient eth0, tell me what it says, then run ifconfig and tell me if eth0 has an ip, even if it's a weird one.
[06:09] <c|oneman> im confused, what does the live cd have to do with the windows xp install?
[06:09] <forumcash> Degru: ut us server
[06:09] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: I'm currently running the live cd
[06:09] <forumcash> Degru: it is  server
[06:09] <litropy> suvcool, did it say anythig after you tried?
[06:10] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: I formatted the hard drive to NTFS
[06:10] <c|oneman> you don't have to format it at all, but ok.
[06:10] <subcool> litropy, ifdown: interface eth0 not configured - ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: permission denied. - i ran as sudo
[06:10] <Degru> subcool: strange.
[06:10] <Degru> subcool: i'll google that
[06:11] <judahitewarrior7> I have a Dell Dimension 9100, I need to find out who made the motherboard for this PC so I can find my SATA drivers.
[06:12] <SwedeMike> judahitewarrior7: "lshw" is a good command to list hardware in your computer.
[06:12] <litropy> subcool, you have to sudo each one: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 && sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:12] <forumcash> Degru: under etc folder there is group and group-     what is second one?
[06:12] <subcool> litropy, lol k
[06:13] <Degru> forumcash: not sure
[06:13] <forumcash> Degru: okay
[06:13] <judahitewarrior7> SwedeMike: It says I have to run it as super user
[06:14] <Degru> judahitewarrior7: i've lost track of this. In terminal type "sudo blahblahblah" to run as root.
[06:15] <c|oneman> judahitewarrior7: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/Product/dimension-9100
[06:15] <subcool> litropy, ok- kinda worked.. except says that eth0 not configured
[06:15] <c|oneman> Intel Matrix Storage Manager Driver (at OS install time only)
[06:15] <c|oneman> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/dimension-9100?driverId=7K8MM&osCode=WW1&fileId=2731108873&languageCode=EN
[06:15] <c|oneman> theres your floppy
[06:16] <melodyintrance> hello everyone!
[06:16] <melodyintrance> geez it's been ages since I've used IRC
[06:16] <Degru> forumcash: the second one (group-) might be the one you're looking for. type "sudo cat group- | less".
[06:16] <c|oneman> you can buy this: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=dynex+usb+floppy&_sacat=0&_from=R40
[06:16] <c|oneman> or you can read how to slipstream sata drivers. I suggest buying. I don't like to read.
[06:17] <Degru> melodyintrance: I've only just started yesterday.
[06:17] <Degru> melodyintrance: it's pretty nice.
[06:17] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: Now I need to work on getting Ubuntu to recognize this floppy drive
[06:17] <melodyintrance> Degru: yeah I have to remember those shortcuts and stuff
[06:17] <litropy> subcool, what's your router's address?
[06:18] <Degru> judahitewarrior7: internal or USB floppy drive?
[06:18] <c|oneman> judahitewarrior7: why does ubuntu need to see it?
[06:18] <forumcash> Degru: it is similar but mostly no user is there
[06:18] <Degru> melodyintrance: which client? i'm using irssi
[06:18] <c|oneman> im still confused as to why you're trying to install windows, and you're medding with an ubuntu live cd
[06:18] <party> #mozilla
[06:18] <melodyintrance> Degru: I'm using pigdin
[06:18] <forumcash> Degru: it can be some kind of backup
[06:18] <Degru> forumcash: how many users do you actually have
[06:18] <forumcash> Degru: 5 or 6
[06:19] <Degru> melodyintrance: irssi is a great terminal client, although it's kinda complicated with the commands.
[06:19] <forumcash> Degru: 3 of them admin
[06:19] <judahitewarrior7> Degru: Internal floppy drive
[06:19] <Degru> forumcash: how many are in the sudo group?
[06:19] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: Ubuntu needs to see it so I can use it...
[06:19] <forumcash> Degru: only i am there, i just addedd
[06:20] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: I'm trying to reinstall Windows. I'm on an Ubuntu Live CD because I reformatted my HD to NTFS, thus erasing my Ubuntu installation.
[06:20] <litropy> subcool, try sudo ifconfig eth0 up and tell me what it says
[06:20] <melodyintrance> Degru: thanks, good to keep in mind when I'm on a terminal server.
[06:20] <c|oneman> floppy drives should magically work if they are connected correctly/enabled in the bios
[06:20] <c|oneman> you would test it by booting off a floppy, good enough
[06:21] <litropy> subcool, and I need your router's address
[06:21] <melodyintrance> hey folks, what's the etiquette for asking a question here?
[06:22] <melodyintrance> ie. best practice tech question.
[06:22] <uw> ur doing it wrong
[06:22] <JimmyNeutron> just ask dont ask to ask
[06:22] <dumont> question, what's different about installing ubuntu onto a full encryption disk?
[06:23] <Degru> forumcash: run "getent group root wheel adm admin sudo"
[06:23] <melodyintrance> ok thanks JimmyNeutron
[06:23] <uw> dumont, same install, it just encrypts your drive
[06:24] <melodyintrance> Question, is the dd command the best way to create an image of my hard disk or ubuntu installation partition?
[06:25] <forumcash> Degru: adm and admins are good sudo only me (also good) and there is no root (it should be good, isn't it)
[06:25] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: Which one of these drivers from this Dell page should I put on the floppy in order for it to boot? There's no way all of these can fit on one floppy and I would need three seperate floppy disks for each one of these files.
[06:25] <Degru> melodyintrance: people have just gone right out and described their problem (x and x don't work, how to fix?), some have asked specific questions (does x command do x and x if x and x?), and some have asked vague questions (how do i do x and x?).
[06:25] <humungulous> anyone else have php-mysql insert performance degradation going from 10.04 to 12.04 server or know how to address it
[06:25] <dumont> uw hmm, I suppose you were talking about software full disk encryption implemented by ubuntu?
[06:25] <terafl0ps> melodyintrance: Take a look at mondorescue.
[06:25] <Degru> forumcash: then that should be all the root users.
[06:26] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: cheers, looking now. brb
[06:26] <Degru> forumcash: also "grep 'x:0:' /etc/passwd
[06:26] <forumcash> Degru: root:x:0:     is it?
[06:26] <Degru> root should be the only one
[06:27] <Degru> forumcash: those are pretty much all the ways of listing admin users.\
[06:27] <forumcash> Degru: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[06:27] <c|oneman> judahitewarrior7: one of them is a 341kb exe that is probably a windows based floppy creator
[06:27] <forumcash> Degru: there should be tree admin not all
[06:27] <uw> dumont, yes i believe so
[06:27] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: have you used Mondorescue?
[06:27] <subcool> litropy, nothing happen..
[06:28] <Degru> forumcash: what do you mean?
[06:28] <terafl0ps> melodyintrance: I use it on one system.
[06:28] <forumcash> Degru: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash    isn't it one root?
[06:29] <litropy> now sudo dhclient eth0 && ifconfig, then tell me what you see next to inet addr in eth0
[06:29] <terafl0ps> I have it dumping DVD-sized ISOs of a machine to a network drive every week.
[06:29] <Degru> forumcash: yes, that's all the same root. it's the user called root. don't touch that line.
[06:29] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: do you use it to backup the entire disk or partition?
[06:29] <litropy> subcool, ^^
[06:29] <subcool> litropy, ah-
[06:29] <judahitewarrior7> c|oneman: OK, I found it
[06:29] <terafl0ps> I use it to backup a full disk.
[06:29] <dumont> how is the performance of full disk encryption on ubuntu?
[06:30] <dumont> how much is the performance hit of full disk encryption on ubuntu?
[06:30] <terafl0ps> melodyintrance: I believe It is supposed to re-create your partition layout on restore.
[06:30] <forumcash> Degru: then everything is fine
[06:30] <forumcash> Degru: thank yo so much
[06:30] <forumcash> Degru: thank you so much
[06:30] <Degru> subcool: i think your best bet is to completely reinstall, since you have home on a different partition. shame all those configs get deleted
[06:31] <Degru> subcool: if you reinstall, backup as many configs as possible before reinstalling.
[06:32] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: I'll test it out and see how I go.
[06:32] <terafl0ps> melodyintrance: Unlike dd, it will handle re-creating the partition layout, compressing the backup as it makes it, and optionally writing ISOs if you want to make a true restore DVD.
[06:34] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: I have a question about 'compression'. Lets say I've only used 10GB out of my total 100GB, I'm looking for a solution that will create a 10GB (or less) backup file instead of the 100GB backup file. Hope mondorescue can achieve this.
[06:34] <subcool> litropy, it says the same thing as before
[06:34] <litropy> subcool, which is ...
[06:34] <subcool> litropy, RTNETLINK answers: file exists
[06:35] <subcool> the ip mask is 192.168.2.255
[06:35] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: I basically swapped all my computers at home from winblows to ubuntu and mint and want to create backups of the current states.
[06:35] <subcool> my network is 192.168.2.9
[06:35] <subcool> i mean my ip
[06:35] <litropy> subcool, and what does it say next to inet addr in eth0 when you ifconfig?
[06:35] <terafl0ps>  melodyintrance: I think in most cases it can.
[06:36] <melodyintrance> terafl0ps: cool! thanks man. I'm going to test this out now.
[06:36] <subcool> litropy, 192.168.2.255
[06:36] <terafl0ps> Definitely try out a restore before you blow anything away though. :)
[06:36] <litropy> subcool, ping google.com
[06:37] <Degru> subcool: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/rtnetlink-answers-file-exists-error-when-doing-ifup-on-alias-eth1-1-on-rhel5-710766/
[06:39] <subcool> litropy, it just sits there until it errors out., or i cancel it
[06:39] <histo> melodyintrance: clonezilla
[06:39] <litropy> subcool, ping 173.194.43.4
[06:39] <histo> melodyintrance: or just dd piped to gzip
[06:40] <subcool> litropy, it worked
[06:40] <litropy> subcool, 64 bytes from ... etc?
[06:41] <melodyintrance> histo: thanks buddy, obviously I have to use clonezilla or dd from a liveCD right? Because my ubuntu filesystem would be locked otherwise.
[06:41] <Degru> subcool: quick! sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[06:42] <subcool> litropy, yes-
[06:42] <histo> melodyintrance: yes clonezilla is a livecd and yes for dd also you can use the ubuntu install disk and dd pipe to gzip
[06:42] <histo> melodyintrance: that's all clonezilla is going to do but just makes it easier for the users
[06:43] <melodyintrance> histo: does clonezilla save a compressed image file so it only saves the 'used' bits instead of the unused space (entire hard disk size)
[06:43] <terafl0ps> histo: I've done the dd | gzip thing before.  It definitely works, but it always seems to take forever.  I think some of the other tools like clonezilla, mondorescue, partimage, etc. are more intelligent about handling the free space.
[06:44] <subcool> Degru, great attempt- but its not getting past the DNS issues
[06:44] <Degru> litropy: how do you set dns from terminal?
[06:44] <histo> melodyintrance: yes both will accomplish the same thing.
[06:44] <litropy> Degru, I'm looking into it
[06:44] <histo> melodyintrance: clonezilla will also allow you to backup to network share etc... it's really easy for end user.
[06:45] <Degru> subcool: you'd need to set the google dns, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your dns.
[06:45] <Degru> subcool: temporarily, of course.
[06:45] <histo> subcool: fix your router settings then
[06:46] <histo> terafl0ps: What magical commands do you think those other tools are using?
[06:46] <melodyintrance> histo: cool. I'll test out the feature in clonezilla as well. I downloaded a liveCD called G4L yesterday and did a disk to disk clone. It works pretty nicely too.
[06:46] <subcool> Degru, lil out of touch with seeting a dns... :/
[06:46] <litropy> subcool, do you have experience with vi?
[06:46] <subcool> yeah
[06:46] <Degru> histo: his internet access was royally screwed up by ufw, and now we have to reinstall network-manager-gnome to get it to work
[06:46] <litropy> subcool, vi is a terminal-based text editor
[06:47] <subcool> lol litropy i know what it is
[06:47] <Degru> litropy: nano is easier
[06:47] <histo> Degru: why not purge the ufw settings
[06:47] <subcool> eh-
[06:47] <subcool> i like vi
[06:47] <Degru> histo: we did that
[06:47] <litropy> subcool, sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[06:48] <subcool> hhmm still cant remote in
[06:48] <litropy> you want to put nameserver 8.8.8.8 under eth0
[06:48] <insomniac_lemon> So after I add the Chrome repository and do sudo apt-get update it tells me I have a malformed sources.list. If I go into synaptic and remove the Chrome source repo (leaving the binary) and try again it works and installs. Is there a way I can add the binary repo without the source repo, or remove the source repo in terminal?
[06:48] <litropy> subcool, ^^
[06:48] <Degru> histo: we completely purged ufw from the system, but we also tried reinstalling network-manager which screwed something else up and blah blah blah internet not working
[06:48] <terafl0ps> histo: It's the difference between sector-to-sector copying and reading the filesystem to determine what should be incorporated in the restored version.
[06:48] <nearst> hi ppl
[06:49] <litropy> subcool, and nameserver 8.8.4.4 also under eth0
[06:49] <litropy> subcool, delete any other nameserver line under eth0
[06:49] <nearst> why not nameserver at /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:49] <terafl0ps> histo: Perfect example: Ghost used to not understand ext3fs so if you made a backup of a linux partition with ghost it would literally take every bit regardless of whether it was free space in ext3fs or not.
[06:50] <litropy> subcool, remote will come later, if I'm/others are up for it.
[06:50] <subcool> lol
[06:50] <terafl0ps> histo:  The same partition backed up with partimage could take a fraction of the size and still restore to a working state because it didn't backup all the free space.
[06:50] <subcool> well id thought it work since it IP based
[06:51] <litropy> subcool, ya what does it say when you try, anyway
[06:51] <subcool> litropy, no route to host
[06:51] <Degru> this is so frustrating
[06:51] <litropy> subcool, btw I gotta ask, what the hell were you doing that caused this lol
[06:52] <Degru> litropy: ufw firewall
[06:52] <Degru> litropy: i think
[06:52] <litropy> Degru, what, he just ... installed it and then it borked everything?
[06:52] <litropy> Degru, I don't believe that.
[06:53] <Degru> litropy: installed and uninstalled and it left behind some config
[06:53] <histo> terafl0ps: there are better tools than just plain dd also. More advanced versions. dcfldd ddresuce dc3dd etc...
[06:53] <dumont> I have hardware SSD level full disk encryption, should I also do software FDE via ubuntu?
[06:54] <litropy> Degru, I still need to locally open up my vnc port so I can vnc to my server. UFW is like a rabid pitbull/guard dog, admittedly.
[06:54] <histo> terafl0ps: or you could rsync it if you want more speed
[06:54] <subcool> litropy, there is no mention of eth-anything.
[06:54] <Degru> litropy: yeah, never heard of it before this
[06:54] <dumont> how does software ubuntu FDE affect other partitions on the disk? is it per partition or per disk? what if I want to dual boot to windows on another partition of the disk that has FDE via ubuntu
[06:55] <litropy> subcool, okay. Hold.
[06:55] <litropy> Wtf ... how is he even getting networking if there's no config for eth0
[06:55] <subcool> just a couple name servers litropy , and i didnt do anything. i was at my sisters, on the interent.. came home. - nothing worked
[06:56] <litropy> subcool, but the file does have stuff in it, right?
[06:56] <subcool> litropy, yeah, two nameservers and a home=
[06:56] <Degru> litropy: could he get a working config from another computer?
[06:57] <litropy> Degru, yah, but he probably doesn't have a config that can be copied and pasted exactly
[06:57] <Degru> litropy: what do you mean?
[06:57] <boydoy> hi! i ask what Name of software i can use for ticketing system?
[06:58] <Degru> litropy: aren't most default configs identical?
[06:58] <boydoy> i hope its open source and easy for config and install
[06:58] <Degru> !software
[06:58] <Degru> !equivelants
[06:58] <Degru> !Equivelants
[06:59] <apwbdjp> !equivalents | Degru
[06:59] <Degru> !equivalents | boydoy
[06:59] <litropy> Degru, you know what's funny ... my resolv.conf has one line: nameserver 127.0.0.1
[07:00] <Degru> litropy: wait lemme check mine
[07:00] <litropy> Degru, admittedly it's kinda a custom setup, but ... ya.
[07:00] <apwbdjp> litropy, mine too, it's the usual
[07:01] <Degru> litropy: yep, mine too. with a search home line at the end.
[07:01] <terafl0ps> histo: I never used the other dd variants.  Rsync is great for file-level backups, but it won't really do the job for a full system restore unless you are okay with the idea of restoring your bootloader and partition layout through a separate process.  I actually have a laptop that I backup to a USB disk that way because I figure if the disk in the machine fails, the first thing I'll do is a clean Ubuntu re-install on the new disk anyway.
[07:01] <Degru> litropy, subcool: so it's not dns/nameserver.
[07:02] <subcool> nope
[07:02] <Degru> subcool: reset the nameserver thing to 127.0.blah.blah
[07:02] <subcool> Degru, litropy two nameserver and search=home
[07:02] <litropy> Screw it. subcool: just put two lines there. Delete everything else: line 1: nameserver: 8.8.8.8 line 2: nameserver 8.8.4.4
[07:02] <subcool> k
[07:03] <Degru> subcool: there should be "search home" not "search=home"
[07:03] <Degru> subcool: put "search home" into line three.
[07:03] <histo> litropy: you can't edit the resolv.conf file
[07:04] <insomniac_lemon> So nobody knows why adding a deb repo is making my sources.list file "malformed" because of a source repo, or how to make it not do that/reverse it (using terminal)?
[07:04] <histo> well you can but it will be overwritten if nm is installed
[07:04] <histo> and resolvconf package
[07:04] <litropy> histo, we're just doing this so he can hopefully have a connection and reinstall stuff
[07:04] <insomniac_lemon> Also, is it possible to get Autodesk Maya installed in Ubuntu without Wine?
[07:04] <histo> insomniac_lemon: commend out the repo does it resolve the issue?
[07:04] <subcool> Degru, k
[07:05] <insomniac_lemon> histo if I delete the source repo, it resolves the issue
[07:05] <litropy> subcool, make sure you save it. cat /etc/resolv.conf to confirm. then restart networking ...
[07:05] <histo> litropy: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf    would be sufficient then.
[07:05] <Degru> histo: that's what we're doing
[07:05] <histo> insomniac_lemon: What was the error.
[07:05] <litropy> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:05] <Degru> histo: no route to hosta
[07:05] <litropy> subcool, ^^
[07:05] <subcool> k
[07:06] <histo> Degru: huh?
[07:06] <litropy> histo, he has other nameservers in there, system could get confused.
[07:06] <litropy> histo, so we're having him delete everything
[07:06] <histo> litropy: using > would put that as the only thing int he file
[07:06] <insomniac_lemon> histo: it says my sources.list file is malformed and it could not reach the repo (or something like that) and Chrome will fail to install.... removing the source repo stops this issue
[07:06] <litropy> histo, oh.
[07:06] <histo> litropy: do it the hard way if you want doesn't bother me.
[07:07] <Degru> subcool: delete the second nameserver. leave only 8.8.8.8
[07:07] <histo> insomniac_lemon: can you paste.ubuntu.com your sources.list?
[07:07] <litropy> histo, I thought otherwise. Yoou're right. subcool, you can do it either way. 8.8.4.4 is just a backup.
[07:07] <terafl0ps> Degru: "No route to host" isn't a DNS error.
[07:07] <histo> litropy: using >> redirect appends
[07:07] <Degru> terafl0ps: then waht is it
[07:07] <litropy> histo, thx
[07:07] <boydoy> yes equivalents
[07:07] <histo> litropy: np
[07:08] <terafl0ps> Degru: I think he is missing a default gateway.
[07:08] <Degru> terafl0ps: how would we add one?
[07:08] <terafl0ps> Do you know the IP of your router?
[07:08] <terafl0ps> route add default gw ip_address_of_router
[07:08] <Degru> terafl0ps: ask subcool.
[07:09] <insomniac_lemon> histo, not really... It's for a script, so I've been doing it on VMs which I found out how to fix the issue. I add the repo, it adds a binary and source version. I remove the source version, it works like it theoretically should.
[07:09] <Degru> subcool: whatever terafl0ps said ^^
[07:09] <subcool> litropy, Degru - k did it
[07:09] <Degru> subcool: route add default gw ip_of_router?
[07:10] <litropy> subcool, you restarted networking?
[07:10] <terafl0ps> Degru: This all assumes he has a valid IP address on the interface too.
[07:10] <histo> insomniac_lemon: okay
[07:11] <litropy> Can others chime in? restarting networking loads resolv.conf into the system again, right?
[07:11] <histo> insomniac_lemon: perhaps their source repo is down or your syntax in your script is wrong
[07:11] <mrsudoer> So, I just resized my ubuntu home partition so I could create a NTFS partition and install windows alongside ubuntu (this was done with a live gparted). When I booted into Ubuntu after the resize, Ubuntu would run into file errors and not reach the login screen...so I ran a fsck and it fixed those file problems, and now I'm back in Ubuntu. Problem is...things are weird. For example, my desktop effects stopped working. But more impor
[07:11] <mrsudoer> For example: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight
[07:11] <histo> litropy: right cuz of resolvconf package
[07:11] <mrsudoer> ^^^ that doesn't work, and I can't tell if it's a problem on my end or if that repo doesn't exist
[07:11] <histo> litropy: you add nameservers to /etc/network/interfaces file now.
[07:11] <mrsudoer> Can anyone help please?
[07:11] <litropy> subcool, you restarted networking?
[07:12] <litropy> histo, ugh. Wanna walk him through it? I'm basically a human google proxy at this point.
[07:13] <litropy> histo, us amatuers have been at this for hours.
[07:13] <insomniac_lemon> histo, here's my command: sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' note that removing /chrome from it yeilds the same result (and that's the repo I have from the .deb)
[07:13] <subcool> litropy, yes
[07:13] <Degru> histo: i'm like a human-human-google proxy
[07:13] <terafl0ps> Litropy: I don't know what is going on with his network manager or the whole background, but if you just need to get him on the net quickly.  We can manually configure a wired interface pretty quickly if we know the subnet he should be on.
[07:13] <histo> litropy: is there a reason he doesn't use network manager?
[07:13] <litropy> histo, only that it's not installed
[07:13] <Degru> histo: it's uninstalled
[07:13] <litropy> histo, he's connected via ethernet
[07:13] <subcool> ok- soorry i missed a bit of that.
[07:14] <histo> subcool: Do you have a router?
[07:14] <litropy> histo, he has a valid ip to his router.
[07:14] <Degru> histo: we need to install the nm again
[07:14] <subcool> the file did contain my router as a nameserver
[07:14] <litropy> histo, he can ping via IP
[07:14] <Degru> litropy: wait, he can ping google via ip now?
[07:14] <litropy> Degru, yes
[07:15] <Degru> litropy: man, this is so confusing
[07:15] <subcool> your telling me
[07:15] <litropy> Degru, he's good - he just needs DNS resolution. Then, he can start reinstalling away.
[07:15] <terafl0ps> Then he's on the Internet, the temporary resolv.conf fix should do it.
[07:15] <mrsudoer> Does anyone think they can help me? Or would my time be better spent rebooting into different DEs/recovery?
[07:15] <subcool> terafl0ps, everything "shoulda" worked by now
[07:15] <litropy> Degru, apt-get works as soon as he resolves DNS
[07:15] <subcool> i did restart the network, but- havent pinged anything.
[07:16] <subcool> im still lost on how my network manager crapped out. :/
[07:16] <histo> subcool: ping google.com
[07:16] <subcool> why cant i remote in via ip?
[07:16] <subcool> its just ssh
[07:17] <Degru> subcool: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:17] <Degru> subcool: see if you can add 8.8.8.8 there.
[07:17] <subcool> k- couldnt ping www.google.com
[07:17] <subcool> but the IP 174 worked
[07:17] <histo> subcool: add your nameserver to /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:18] <grahamsavage> ok i've got a window that's disappeared i can see it on ctrl-~
[07:18] <grahamsavage> when i click on it it doesn't appear
[07:18] <grahamsavage> what can i do?
[07:18] <histo> subcool: under the iface eth0 section add dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[07:18] <Degru> histo: just add the same thing as resolv.conf?
[07:18] <alfirus> Hello everyone. I'm facing battery drain problem. My Lenovo GT580 out of battery in less then 2 hours. However when i using Windows 7, it can last long up to 3 1/2 hours. How to overcome this problem? I already post in forum few days ago but not yet get feedback
[07:18] <Degru> histo: nvm
[07:19] <Degru> !battery
[07:19] <Degru> ubottu: !battery
[07:20] <Degru> !battery
[07:20] <litropy> !hello
[07:20] <histo> Degru: dns-nameservers option.  The other way it could be done is to edit he /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  file and restart networking. The head file controls what is written to resolv.conf by resolvconf package.  Or you can stop resolvconf from updating by sudo resolvoncf --disable-updates  however I would just edit the interfaces file
[07:20] <histo> !search battery | Degru
[07:20] <histo> alfirus: what version of ubuntu?
[07:20] <grahamsavage> so hidden window that won't show up?
[07:20] <grahamsavage> what can i do?
[07:21] <grahamsavage> super+w and alt-~  and alt-tab won't bring it up
[07:21] <histo> subcool: after editing the /etc/network/interfaces file restart networking and rejoice at your workign dns
[07:21] <litropy> grahamsavage, is the window important?
[07:21] <subcool> histo, do i add it like that? or were u talking short?
[07:21] <grahamsavage> yeah it's my chrome window
[07:21] <grahamsavage> with all my tabs
[07:22] <grahamsavage> oopen
[07:22] <Degru> subcool: edit /etc/network/interfaces and add "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4" and then restart networking
[07:22] <litropy> subcool: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:22] <alfirus> histo, 12.10. During using ubuntu, i just run chrome only, nothing else
[07:22] <subcool> is this going to fix itself after i get "running"
[07:22] <grahamsavage> but i'm new to this OS so i'm really just trying to work out how to switch back to it
[07:22] <subcool> so there is a comma after 8. ok
[07:22] <LovCAPONE> Q: There is only thing that stops to from installing Ubuntu as my main daily OS... iTunes... Please tell me that there is an Ubuntu alternative... Any?
[07:22] <grahamsavage> i'm finding general window management a bit buggy (either buggy or i need some new skills)
[07:22] <litropy> subcool, after you're up, we're going to reinstall networkmanager, and anything else you might need.
[07:22] <Degru> subcool: after all this install network-manager-gnome
[07:23] <grahamsavage> LovCapone: yeah i haven't found an itunes replacement
[07:23] <histo> subcool: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces   then under iface eth0 .....   line add dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8
[07:23] <litropy> subcool, may as well look at ssh as well ... I'm up ofr it.
[07:23] <subcool> litropy, Degru histo still cant ping google.com
[07:23] <LovCAPONE> grahamsavage: damn... sick of Win7
[07:23] <nearst> !resolvconf
[07:23] <histo> subcool: get rid of the comma and just add one
[07:23] <litropy> subcool, same 'hang'?
[07:23] <subcool> yep
[07:24] <apwbdjp> LovCAPONE, Ubuntu has alternatives, libgtkpod handle many of apples devices, but it still has trouble with the most recent onces
[07:24] <grahamsavage> LovCapone: run it in a VM
[07:24] <histo> subcool: dns-nameservers  8.8.8.8    I had a typo earlier and forgot the s I believe
[07:24] <apwbdjp> LovCAPONE, for iPohd Nano 6th Gen, for example, you'll need a VM, or keeping a dual boot
[07:24] <subcool> still hangs
[07:24] <grahamsavage> yeah vm is a really good solution
[07:24] <LovCAPONE> apwbdjp: iPod Touch 4th gen?
[07:25] <grahamsavage> because you can just keep it running with only 2gb of ram
[07:25] <grahamsavage> and still have it very snappy
[07:25] <litropy> subcool, remember you have to restart networking after every change
[07:25] <apwbdjp> LovCAPONE, not sure, really
[07:25] <subcool> did it
[07:25] <lasers> !itunes | LovCAPONE
[07:25] <histo> subcool: okay echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base && sudo networking restart
[07:25] <litropy> subcool, does dmesg seem to have any clues near the bottom?
[07:25] <Degru> "subcool: ping http://www.google.com" works now?
[07:26] <LovCAPONE> Ok thanks guys.. got my project for tonite
[07:26] <insomniac_lemon> Alright, Degru and Histo, I think I solved my issue, with the command sudo apt-add-repository 'deb-src http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' --remove right after adding the binary repo
[07:26] <litropy> subcool, keep in mind, histo has precedence over anything I say
[07:26] <subcool> lol
[07:26] <histo> subcool: is it working now or not?
[07:26] <litropy> subcool, but if you're nearby, may as well try my stuff as well. I won't get in his way.
[07:27] <insomniac_lemon> I still want my commands to be quieter, like not printing out "processing triggers" and things like that
[07:27] <insomniac_lemon> I just want progress and no logging
[07:27] <subcool> histo, sudo in front of echo?
[07:27] <litropy> insomniac_lemon, may I ask why?
[07:27] <histo> insomniac_lemon: redirect the output
[07:27] <histo> subcool: no
[07:27] <histo> subcool: just infront of tee
[07:27] <wad> I'm trying to get samba happy on my server (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit desktop), but it's acting crazy. Doesn't make any sense at all. Any of you guys good at samba? I just want to share some files and printers on the LAN. I'm pretty sure that my smb.conf is good, it's other aspects of samba that are confusing the heck out of me.
[07:27] <subcool> histo, no such file
[07:28] <histo> huh make sure you typed it properly
[07:28] <insomniac_lemon> litropy, script where I echo all of the important stuff about what's going on
[07:28] <insomniac_lemon> hist, how do I do that?
[07:28] <litropy> insomniac_lemon, I see.
[07:28] <subcool> litropy, ping didnt work
[07:28] <insomniac_lemon> *histo.....
[07:28] <subcool> histo, its exactly how u wrote it
[07:29] <histo> insomniac_lemon: command.with.output 1>/dev/null
[07:29] <Degru> subcool, litropy, histo, as much as I'd like to see this finally fixed, I have to go to bed now. Good night all.
[07:29] <histo> subcool: ls /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/  what's in there?
[07:29] <litropy> Degru, thx for your help. Goodnight.
[07:29] <insomniac_lemon> histo, thanks, I actually found something similar on the internet earlier
[07:29] <subcool> lol- toolate.
[07:30] <histo> insomniac_lemon: to redirect errors you would 2>/dev/null
[07:30] <subcool> histo, base   head
[07:30] <histo> subcool: okay wellt he files are there. sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base   and put nameserver 8.8.8.8  in that file save it and restart networking
[07:31] <terafl0ps> Does anyone know anything about the status of the Android Execution Environment mentioned in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-android-execution-environment ?
[07:31] <insomniac_lemon> Thanks hist, that's exactly what I was looking for! Why couldn't -qq do it like that? ;~;
[07:32] <subcool> i was wrong ... i read it wrong.. .. i did it right this time.. and it pended to the file, but restarting networking didnt work.
[07:32] <insomniac_lemon> *histo, gahh
[07:32] <histo> insomniac_lemon: gahh?
[07:32] <histo> subcool: what do you mean it didn't work?
[07:32] <subcool> histo, fixed the file, still no ping..
[07:32] <vernon> I just freshly installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 onto my computer, and it auto-installed my nvidia drivers (it is using 304.64). I notice that there will be little black dashes that appear near the dash button. How do I fix this?
[07:32] <vbgunz> anyone here use xboxdrv with an official ps3 controller? what's your option line that works best?
[07:32] <insomniac_lemon> I keep forgetting to put the 'o' in your name, histo
[07:32] <subcool> sudo networkingn restart - did nothing. it errored
[07:32] <histo> subcool: cat /etc/resolv.conf   is there a nameserver in there now?
[07:33] <histo> subcool: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:33] <subcool> yea- that way worked
[07:33] <subcool> um.
[07:33] <insomniac_lemon> Histo, does  1>/dev/null work with all commands?
[07:33] <subcool> yea, the three things we added are in that file
[07:33] <subcool> histo, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 search home.
[07:33] <histo> insomniac_lemon: yeah 1=stdout  You are redirecting the output to /dev/null 2=stderr  etc...
[07:34] <alfirus> Hello everyone. I'm facing battery drain problem. My Lenovo GT580 out of battery in less then 2 hours. However when i using Windows 7, it can last long up to 3 1/2 hours. How to overcome this problem? I already post in forum few days ago but not yet get feedback. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 32bits and my laptop is 64bits. During using, i just use chrome browser, nothing more.
[07:34] <AcidRain> im trying to setup an ftp server using pure-ftpd, how can i make restrictions on certain folders?
[07:34] <histo> subcool: before or after the restart?
[07:34] <subcool> after
[07:34] <histo> subcool: okay ping google.com  now
[07:34] <histo> should resolve to IP
[07:34] <subcool> nothing
[07:34] <insomniac_lemon> histo, no I mean like how certian flags are on certain commands.... I'm asking if it's a global trick
[07:35] <histo> insomniac_lemon: yes it's global you are redirecting the output of whatever command
[07:35] <histo> insomniac_lemon: you can pipe output to a file etc...
[07:35] <insomniac_lemon> ah.
[07:35] <bean> alfirus, does that have an nvidia chip?
[07:35] <bean> one of those optimus ones?
[07:35] <alfirus> bean, yes
[07:35] <bean> thats probably your problems
[07:36] <bean> problem*
[07:36] <bean> its running in only NVIDIA mode
[07:36] <alfirus> AcidRain, hope this help http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/FAQ
[07:36] <bean> and sucking power.
[07:36] <kerro> hi
[07:37] <melodyintrance> brb folks
[07:37] <subcool> histo, nothing happen..
[07:37] <histo> subcool: can you still ping 8.8.8.8  ??
[07:37] <insomniac_lemon> Histo, does it go before or after flags?
[07:37] <histo> insomniac_lemon: after
[07:37] <subcool> never tried honestly
[07:37] <insomniac_lemon> Ok, that's what I though
[07:37] <subcool> histo, yes
[07:38] <kerro> did anyone know what autoCAD like app in ubuntu ?
[07:38] <histo> subcool: cat /etc/resolv.conf  and make sure your nameservers are in there... What else is in there besides those?
[07:38] <alfirus> bean, any solution or software maybe. i tried to do undervoltage http://linuxsolver.blogspot.it/2012/05/undervolting-cpu-in-ubuntu-1204.html but no luck.
[07:38] <histo> !cad | kerro
[07:38] <subcool> histo, the two name servers, and a search home
[07:38] <histo> subcool: get rid of search
[07:39] <foo357> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and have an issue with usb memory sticks not mounting automatically
[07:39] <subcool> histo, done- still not working
[07:39] <bean> alfirus, http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 give that a try
[07:39] <kerro> !cad ? histo
[07:39] <AcidRain> im saying like.... using pure-ftpd if i do sudo chmod 655 -R Music, then ftpusers can access files and download. but i can NOT do it locally
[07:39] <histo> kerro: was looking for bot trigger that doesn't exist
[07:39] <alfirus> bean, thanks. doing it now
[07:39] <histo> subcool: did you restart networking and confirm it's not in there?
[07:39] <subcool> histo, correct
[07:40] <kerro> hehe.. i just need sugestions
[07:40] <histo> subcool: I have no idea what the hell is going on.
[07:40] <subcool> lol
[07:40] <histo> subcool: How did all this start
[07:40] <subcool> no clue
[07:40] <histo> I wasn't in here for the begining
[07:40] <subcool> histo, i was at my sisters,, everyting was fine. came home- refused to do anything.
[07:40] <histo> subcool: what sort of things do you have in /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[07:41] <subcool> histo, auto lo, iface lo inet loopback, dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8
[07:42] <histo> subcool: okay are you connected via wired or wireless?
[07:42] <subcool> histo, wired
[07:44] <histo> subcool: okay remove the dns-nameservers line and change it to auto lo eth0, iface lo inet loopback, iface eth0 inet dhcp   save and restart networking
[07:44] <histo> subcool: commas would be newlines obviously
[07:44] <histo> No idea how the hell you are pinging anything with the way it's configured now.
[07:45] <alfirus> bean, i'm stuck at sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bumblebee-stable-precise.list. the file blank.. nothing there
[07:45] <histo> subcool: Why does everyone think network manager is gone?
[07:45] <histo> alfirus: create it
[07:45] <subcool> histo, we removed it
[07:46] <subcool> histo, then manually reinstalled just network-manager
[07:46] <histo> okay.........
[07:46] <histo> subcool: did you make the changes I just suggested to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <subcool> histo, ping still donsnt work
[07:46] <subcool> yep
[07:46] <histo> subcool: sudo ifup eth0
[07:46] <subcool> histo, RTNETLINK answers: file exists
[07:47] <histo> subcool: huh?
[07:47] <subcool> that what came back
[07:47] <histo> subcool: try ping now
[07:47] <subcool> oh wait
[07:47] <subcool> it also said ssh stop./waiting, ssh start/running, process 10281
[07:47] <subcool> it hasnt dont that before
[07:47] <subcool> histo, unknown host
[07:48] <histo> subcool: can you ping by ip?
[07:48] <fire> can i create my own distro based on ubuntu ?
[07:48] <subcool> histo, a coulple..
[07:48] <histo> fire: yes
[07:48] <alfirus> sorry histo, command to create it is? i'm new with ubuntu
[07:48] <histo> alfirus: use any editor you want. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list/bumble.......
[07:49] <histo> alfirus: sorry gksu gedit
[07:49] <subcool> histo, i can ping 8.8.8 - but i can no longer ping 173.194.43.4
[07:49] <histo> subcool: what is 173.194.43.4?
[07:49] <subcool> idk- lol- they gave it to me to ping before
[07:50] <subcool> histo, cant ping within network
[07:50] <AcidRain> lol
[07:50] <subcool> histo, its getting kinda late- i have to goto bed. :/
[07:50] <AcidRain> in ubuntu 12.04 when u chmod perm -R folder, the first folder in that folder will have regular permissions
[07:50] <AcidRain> thats funny
[07:50] <histo> subcool: what does ifconfig show for eth0  ?? does it show ip and bcast mask etc...?
[07:51] <histo> subcool: How did they have you uninstall network manager btw?
[07:51] <fire> histo: how can i do it ? by building ubuntu from scratch and removing the logos and other trademark stuff ?
[07:51] <subcool> histo, it does show all that. - and uh... apt-get --purge
[07:51] <subcool> along with my ufw
[07:51] <histo> subcool: we should be able to reinstall it.   from archives. sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[07:52] <wad> So I got samba running, yay! Now I'm just trying to share the printer attached to the server, over the LAN. But whenever I try to print anything, it wants me to authenticate. How do I turn that off completely? Anyone on the LAN should be able to print all they want, without having to enter a username/password. I'm not going to create accounts on the server for everyone who uses this LAN!
[07:52] <subcool> it times out when it comes to reaching the serveser
[07:52] <subcool> histo,
[07:52] <histo> subcool: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/network-*   do you have the .debs still?
[07:52] <wad> I've googled around, and I find hundreds of posts of people having the exact same issue.
[07:52] <subcool> histo, yes i do..
[07:52] <wad> I haven't found any good answers yet.
[07:53] <histo> AcidRain: can you paste what you are trying to do
[07:53] <subcool> histo, nothing came up from that ls
[07:53] <fire> histo: will lfs help me in this regard ?
[07:53] <AcidRain> histo, i wasnt trying to do anything
[07:53] <AcidRain> i was just stating that
[07:53] <prototype> hey all
[07:53] <histo> subcool: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/network-manager   and sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/network-manager-gnome
[07:53] <histo> fire: lfs is not ubuntu
[07:54] <nyuszika7h> hi, does anyone know where can I get the Arial Unicode MS font for Ubuntu?
[07:54] <subcool> histo, those files arent in my archives
[07:54] <AcidRain> sudo chmod 755 -R FOLDER <--- this command sets permissions on all folders to 755, except the first folder in the directory, it remains 777
[07:54] <histo> subcool: did you apt-get clean at some point?
[07:54] <subcool> no
[07:54] <histo> subcool: do you have a livecd still?
[07:54] <subcool> live usb
[07:54] <prototype> hey i am unable to install ubuntu12.4 black screen appears
[07:54] <fire> histo: i meant to say it will help me in creating linux from scratch and help me understanding the process.
[07:54] <prototype> anyone can help me
[07:54] <histo> subcool: boot the liveusb mount your hard drive and sudo chroot /path/to/mount  then sudo apt-get install network-manager
[07:54] <nyuszika7h> prototype: do you have an Intel graphics card?
[07:54] <subcool> prototype, press enter
[07:55] <histo> !nomodeset | prototype
[07:55] <subcool> prototype, try 12.04.1
[07:55] <nyuszika7h> histo: my thoughts exactly
[07:55] <subcool> histo, booting now
[07:55] <histo> AcidRain: is it a sticky folder?
[07:55] <histo> subcool: k should be easier to fix from there.
[07:56] <helmut_> hi
[07:56] <prototype> while installing freinds when last steps remaing than ..errorrs appears nd halt everything
[07:56] <nyuszika7h> hey helmut_
[07:56] <AcidRain> histo, no. normal folder just like all others
[07:56] <histo> AcidRain: does your user not own it?
[07:56] <nyuszika7h> prototype: what errors?
[07:57] <AcidRain> histo, yes. my user owns it, just like all the other folders
[07:57] <AcidRain> histo, its not an issue for me.
[07:57] <prototype> somthing like call trace:       some code appears like code: 34 25 c8
[07:57] <histo> AcidRain: okay well it works here for me
[07:58] <histo> prototype: I thought you said it had a blackscreen?
[07:58] <nyuszika7h> prototype: kernel panic?
[07:59] <histo> !info mutt
[07:59] <prototype> what is solution for that ? kernel panic
[07:59] <histo> why the hell do we still need postfix with mutt?
[07:59] <iceroot> histo: ?
[08:00] <histo> iceroot: >1.5.15 has SMTP support built in
[08:00] <prototype> any solution ???
[08:00] <prototype> for kernel panic
[08:00] <nyuszika7h> prototype: looks like a broken kernel module.
[08:00] <iceroot> histo: and what is the problem? you always have a MTA installed on your system
[08:00] <william__> rebuild the kernel
[08:00] <histo> prototype: memcheck and md5sum your iso just to be sure
[08:00] <nyuszika7h> we could probably help more if you could give the full backtrace
[08:01] <prototype> iso is fine
[08:01] <nyuszika7h> william__: rebuild the kernel on the live CD/USB?
[08:01] <iceroot> histo: and the local maildir is still used from postfix, so you dont need onyl smtp but also maildir
[08:01] <nyuszika7h> he is getting that at the end of the installation or something
[08:01] <histo> iceroot: it's installing something that's not needed
[08:01] <william__> any log?
[08:01] <histo> iceroot: What is the default MTA in 12.10? I don't see one by default
[08:02] <nyuszika7h> brb
[08:02] <iceroot> !mta | histo
[08:02] <litropy> histo, the IP is to google.
[08:02] <litropy> subcool, you still here?
[08:02] <prototype> i am beginner plzz freinds solve my prob
[08:03] <alfirus> thanks histo and bean, i'll refer to the article author for my problem.
[08:03] <prototype> its req ?
[08:03] <iceroot> histo: postfix is installed by default (tested on 12.04)
[08:03] <subcool> litropy, histo yea- just booted into livesub
[08:03] <vbgunz> what is the best bluetooth, non fussy game pad controller on Linux?
[08:03] <iceroot> vbgunz: the one you like most
[08:03] <iceroot> !best | vbgunz
[08:03] <histo> subcool: does network work now?
[08:04] <litropy> subcool, okay - I'm just watchin histo at this point.
[08:04] <histo> iceroot: not here on 12.10
[08:04] <histo> iceroot: hense my question on why it's needed
[08:04] <histo> iceroot: mutt doesnt need it anymore
[08:04] <vbgunz> maybe best was a bad word. What is the most compatible bluetooth gamepad controller that is no fuss on linux?
[08:04] <iceroot> histo: create a bug if you think its not needed anymore
[08:04] <histo> subcool: okay mount your hard drive
[08:05] <histo> subcool: well first make sure network works on the liveusb I guess.
[08:05] <iceroot> histo: also have a look at #mutt and see if it is not needed anymore, i think its still needed not only for smtp
[08:05] <prototype> plzz give me the solution for ...black error screen while installing and halt all process
[08:05] <prototype> ?
[08:05] <prototype> ?
[08:05] <FloodBot1> prototype: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <iceroot> histo: Recommends: default-mta | mail-transport-agent, locales, mime-support, libsasl2-modules
[08:06] <prototype> sorry sir
[08:06] <iceroot> histo: there is no dependency for postfix
[08:06] <hxm> hello good morning
[08:06] <iceroot> histo: just for mta and this is postfix by default on ubuntu
[08:06] <histo> iceroot: Okay the issue is that postfix is not default in 12.10 then
[08:06] <iceroot> histo: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.6.1-0), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.10), libgpgme11 (>= 1.2.0), libgssapi-krb5-2 (>= 1.7+dfsg), libidn11 (>= 1.13), libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20070908), libsasl2-2, libtinfo5, libtokyocabinet8 (>= 1.4.14)
[08:06] <subcool> histo, okl
[08:07] <hxm> i just updated mysql to 5.5 in ubuntu server trought apt-get upgrade and now the server says this: Error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) (2002)
[08:07] <subcool> im just getting up. i tried to chroot the drive, but it says the thing is locked..
[08:07] <histo> subcool: where did it get mounted to?
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: mutt has no mta-dependency at all
[08:07] <hxm> the .sock file exists and i dont have idea what to try
[08:07] <subcool> histo, /media/longstringofcrap
[08:07] <william__> rm -rf
[08:07] <histo> subcool: sudo chroot /media/<tab_key>
[08:07] <histo> william__: dont' say that here
[08:08] <histo> TakeItEZ: it can handle smtp since version 1.15.5
[08:08] <iceroot> histo: i dont have 12.10 so i can not test it but i thought postfix is still default on 12.10
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> histo: thats why mutt has no mta-dependency at all
[08:08] <histo> TakeItEZ: it does here wants to install postfix
[08:08] <histo> TakeItEZ: iceroot in 12.10 that is
[08:08] <iceroot> histo: but when you have a mta installed by default (which is the default) mutt should not pull postfix
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> histo: then use --no-install-recommends
[08:09] <prototype> there is no solution for .. me   freinds
[08:09] <histo> iceroot: mutt shouldn't be pulling an MTA anyways it doesn't need one anymroe that's the whole point.
[08:09] <iceroot> histo: you already have a mta
[08:09] <histo> subcool: then you can sudo apt-get install network-manger network-manager-gnome
[08:09] <histo> iceroot: Are you not reading what I'm typing? or are you just misunderstanding what I'm saying?
[08:09] <subcool> histo, i did that..
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> histo: it doesn't pull any mta on 12.10, just shows an mta as recommen
[08:10] <iceroot> histo: 12.10 has a default mta
[08:10] <subcool> histo, im in as roo@kubuntu:/#
[08:10] <iceroot> histo: if it is postfix, exim or something else does not matter
[08:10] <iceroot> histo: but 12.10 comes with a default mta
[08:10] <subcool> histo, but when i try aptget- it says the package is locked
[08:10] <histo> subcool: okay then apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[08:10] <histo> iceroot: it's not exim or postfix
[08:10] <subcool> wait
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: server you mean? desktop hasn't
[08:10] <subcool> i think i have a different partition for apt
[08:11] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: cron is pulling a mta
[08:11] <prototype> i thought i got solutions here ..but disappointed
[08:11] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: and cron is default on desktop and server
[08:11] <histo> iceroot: NOT IN 12.10 desktop
[08:11] <histo> ffs
[08:11] <iceroot> i will boot my 12.10 vm and have a look
[08:11] <histo> please do
[08:11] <subcool> histo, ^^
[08:11] <histo> iceroot: rather than argue with me
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: not here, even cron just recommends/suggest a mta
[08:11] <histo> subcool: what?
[08:11] <subcool> histo, apt is its own parition
[08:12] <histo> TakeItEZ: try and install mutt in 12.10 it will want postfix
[08:12] <iceroot> only 12.04 vms here :(
[08:12] <TakeItEZ> histo: it doesn't i just tested
[08:12] <histo> TakeItEZ: The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:12] <histo>   libtokyocabinet9 mutt postfix
[08:12] <histo> really
[08:12] <litropy> subcool, can you ping google.com?
[08:12] <TakeItEZ> histo: "libtokyocabinet9 mutt" here
[08:12] <histo> Does here that's bizare you must be running 12.10 super edition
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> histo: 12.10 64bit desktop nothing special
[08:13] <Flannel> histo: If you already have a MTA, its satisfied.
[08:13] <subcool> litropy, no
[08:13] <subcool> litropy, oh= yeah
[08:13] <litropy> subcool, so you can?
[08:13] <histo> Flannel: TakeItEZ I have a default install of 12.10 64bit and you try to install mutt it wants to install postfix. YOU DON"T NEED MTA for mutt
[08:13] <Flannel> histo: default-mta or mail-transport-agent, both of which are virtual, the former is postfix, the latter is a whole bunch of things.
[08:13] <subcool> litropy, yea
[08:13] <iceroot> histo: super edition?
[08:13] <litropy> subcool, okay. So what partition is apt on?
[08:13] <histo> iceroot: let me make a pastebin since you don't believe me
[08:14] <litropy> subcool, same as /home?
[08:14] <iceroot> histo: i am downloading 12.10 right now
[08:14] <Flannel> histo: It's a recommends, yes, but by default apt installs recommends.  You can certainly install it without, with --no-install-recommends
[08:14] <TakeItEZ> histo: as i said before, then use --no-install-recommends
[08:15] <subcool> litropy, no- its own. its titled apt
[08:15] <TakeItEZ> dpkg -l|grep mail
[08:15] <TakeItEZ> sry
[08:15] <histo> iceroot: Flannel TakeItEZ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584536/ really???
[08:15] <litropy> subcool, jesus.
[08:15] <histo> Flannel: It shouldn't be a recomend that's my point
[08:16] <histo> subcool: what are you talking about apt partition?
[08:16] <Flannel> histo: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends, done.
[08:16] <subcool> hold on- ill can use it to irc and i can copy shit
[08:16] <histo> subcool: if you chrooted and you had networkign on the live cd you can now instlal apps with apt-get
[08:16] <ikonia> subcool: tone down the language please.
[08:16] <litropy> subcool, not sure what to do with that. BTW, just out of curiousity, why did you partition it this way?
[08:16] <subcool>   >:
[08:16] <histo> Flannel: THERE IS A BUG THAT IT WANTS TO INSTALL ONE CAN YOU SEE THIS TEXT NO MTA IS NEEDED OR SHOULD BE RECOMENDED FOR MUTT
[08:16] <TakeItEZ> histo: ubuntus apt is configured to install recommends by default, so change that
[08:16] <subcool>    >:|
[08:16] <iceroot> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584538/
[08:17] <Flannel> histo: If you think it shouldn't be a recommends, file a bug.  It's definitely a recommends based off of the debian packaging guidelines.
[08:17] <subcool> litropy, TJ helped me-
[08:17] <Flannel> histo: chill out.
[08:17] <litropy> subcool, helped you do what?
[08:17] <histo> Flannel: Why is it recommended?
[08:17] <iceroot> histo: #mutt
[08:17] <histo> please enlighten us all
[08:17] <iceroot> histo: ask them
[08:17] <TakeItEZ> histo: ask the debian-maintainers
[08:17] <Flannel> histo: The PACKAGE has a "recommends" for mutt of an MTA.  Recommends is "Package A recommends Package B, if the package maintainer judges that most users would not want A without also having the functionality provided by B."
[08:17] <subcool> litropy, i had a busted 11.01 system, and he helped me sepeate home, and install via LVM
[08:17] <histo> iceroot: yeah i'm in there it's not needed at all since 1.15.5
[08:17] <iceroot> histo: #mutt
[08:17] <histo> Flannel: the maintainer is wrong
[08:18] <iceroot> histo: or ask the debian maintainers
[08:18] <subcool> litropy, so- during that he made like 5 partition to seperate stuff
[08:18] <Flannel> histo: Do you have an actual question?
[08:18] <iceroot> histo: recommend != depends
[08:18] <histo> Flannel: whatever
[08:18] <litropy> subcool, dunno why. Okay.
[08:18] <histo> Flannel: I asked why it's doing that. It shouldn't be I will be filing a bug.
[08:18] <Flannel> histo: If not, please let other people use the channel.  If you do need support, feel free to ask a question.
[08:18] <subcool> give me a second
[08:18] <Pipe84> hi all, i have ubuntu 12.04.1 with kernel 3.2. Yesterday i updated to kernel 3.5 but now doesn´t work, i try to boot with kernel 3.2 and nothing. What can i do?
[08:18] <Flannel> histo: I'm glad.  You can install it with --no-install-recommends and you won't be asked to install an MTA.
[08:18] <histo> subcool: can you paste the output of lsblk
[08:19] <Hwkiller> Pipe84: what exactly "doesn't work" what is the error?
[08:19] <subcool> histo, working on it
[08:19] <litropy> subcool, no idea how to tell apt what's what while apt is on another partition. Wait for histo to respond.
[08:19] <histo> Flannel: I'm glad that you don't seem to understand that the package shouldn't be recomending something that is not needed and provides no features
[08:19] <subcool> litropy, give me a min- you';ll see
[08:19] <subcool> i've been trying to figure this thing out for a while now.
[08:19] <subcool> cause its pretty confusing
[08:19] <iceroot> !bug | histo
[08:20] <iceroot> histo: guess we are finished then with the topic
[08:20] <Flannel> histo: Most people want to use mutt to send and receive email, that's why you need an MTA.  Most peple don't use mutt simply to read email.
[08:20] <Pipe84> i can choose system to boot: Ubuntu 3.5 or Ubuntu Recovery Mode or Windows 7, i choose ubuntu normal and the screen back, the led of HD is stop.
[08:20] <TakeItEZ> Flannel: mutt doesn't need an mta to send mail
[08:20] <histo> Flannel: mutt no longer needs an MTA since 1.15.5 it has SMTP built in and can use IMAP and POP but continue spouting nonsense
[08:20] <iceroot> histo: type this /join #mutt "why is postfix still needed"
[08:21] <histo> iceroot: It's not needed
[08:21] <iceroot> histo: s/postfix/mta
[08:21] <Flannel> histo: You need to adjust your attitude.
[08:21] <iceroot> histo: then read the link from ubottu about "bug"
[08:21] <histo> iceroot: i'm filing one now.
[08:21] <subcool_> k - im here now
[08:21] <melodyintrance> question: when I boot my HTPC running ubuntu 12.10 64bit I am presented with a purple boot screen giving me options to select Ubuntu, Ubuntu with advanced options, Windows 8 on /dev/  How can I edit this boot screen?
[08:21] <subcool_> what did u want me to do? histo
[08:22] <iceroot> !grub | melodyintrance
[08:22] <iceroot> melodyintrance: the last link
[08:22] <melodyintrance> thanks iceroot and ubottu
[08:22] <melodyintrance> I'll install grub2
[08:23] <Pipe84> Hwkiller i can choose system to boot: Ubuntu 3.5 or Ubuntu Recovery Mode or Windows 7, i choose ubuntu normal and the screen back, the led of HD is stop.
[08:23] <histo> subcool_: in where?
[08:23] <nell> has anyone successfully connected a gamecube or xbox controller to a  linux machine
[08:23] <subcool_> histo, you asked me to give you the results of something-
[08:23] <subcool_> histo, what was the command
[08:23] <subcool_> histo, im n the broken computer now
[08:24] <iceroot> melodyintrance: its already installed and it is the screen you are talking about
[08:25] <histo> subcool_: lsblk
[08:25] <histo> subcool_: post the results to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <histo> Flannel: I don't feel that I have an attitude problem. I'm sorry you took it that way. I don't think you understood what I was asking nor did iceroot.
[08:27] <iceroot> histo: i said ask #mutt and if it is a bug create a bug
[08:27] <histo> I did
[08:27] <iceroot> histo: then everything is fine :)
[08:27] <histo> Yeap
[08:31] <histo> subcool_: Any luck?
[08:31] <subcool_> my pastebin widget isnt working :/
[08:32] <subcool_> got it
[08:32] <subcool_> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584563
[08:33] <Jeeves_moss> is there a script that will find duplicate videos baised on content?
[08:34] <iceroot> Jeeves_moss: you want to find all duplicate video files with different filenames but the same content?
[08:34] <iceroot> Jeeves_moss: and we dont need crossposting in #bash and #ubuntu
[08:35] <Jeeves_moss> iceroot, it's clips of dif res and paices of other videos.  Basically I want to elimate all of the smaller clips of full movies
[08:35] <iceroot> Jeeves_moss: not possible if they are different in resolution or something like that
[08:36] <MttJocy> I was wondering does anyone happen to know the scheduled release date for 13.04 am presuming will be next month some time.  It's looking like there is a good chance I'm going to have some significant (Give or take 500Mbit) worth of capacity around then my initial thought was to time it and bring it up to help seed on the torrents but is there anyone that is responsible for managing distribution etc that I should look into contact in case it's better
[08:36] <MttJocy> used some other way?
[08:36] <iceroot> MttJocy: no
[08:37] <histo> !raring | MttJocy
[08:37] <histo> subcool: you still there I got dropped didn't here where you were at with the paste or if you installed network-manager network-manager-gnome yet?
[08:38] <MttJocy> Thanks both :)
[08:38] <subcool_> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584563
[08:38] <ero-jiji> got a question for one of the more experianced users here. i have a backup server at ovh (4tb) and am planning on upgrading to the 10tb. theres is maybe 10gb free on the existing server (the individual backup files are 80gb+) which would be the better way to move them, rsync or scp? both servers are in the same datacenter, on 100mbit pipes
[08:39] <histo> subcool_: Why did you put /var on a different part? is this a server?
[08:39] <histo> ero-jiji: rsync will use ssh
[08:39] <subcool_> histo, i didnt create the partitions. - TJ helped me..
[08:40] <subcool_> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584574
[08:40] <histo> subcool_: don't use sudo
[08:40] <subcool_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[08:40] <subcool_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:40] <histo> subcool_: you are root on that partiton
[08:40] <subcool_> histo, yes
[08:41] <ero-jiji> @histo is that good or bad? i only have ssh and x2go access, im just trying to find the most reliable way to move 4tb ><
[08:42] <histo> ero-jiji: well using scp is going to be over ssh also. So I really don't understand what you are asking. Rsync will provide you with the ability to resume and ensure the files match.
[08:42] <ero-jiji> id preffer to move the entire folder at once, as theres way to many individual backups to keep track of ><
[08:42] <ero-jiji> so rsync is the more reliable option
[08:42] <histo> ero-jiji: right
[08:43] <histo> ero-jiji: rsync -av /folder user@remoteserver:/remotelocation
[08:44] <ero-jiji> @histo thats all i needed to know thanks, after i do the copy, is there an easy way to compare the 2 different servers folders so i can make sure theirs no problems before i wipe the old one?
[08:45] <histo> ero-jiji: you could hash them
[08:45] <ero-jiji> boss would kill me if something happened, and they went to grab a backup and it was corrupt etc lol
[08:45] <histo> ero-jiji: md5sum
[08:45] <ero-jiji> ahh never thought of that
[08:45] <histo> ero-jiji: that's the whole point of rsync though it can also do hashing...
[08:45] <ero-jiji> oh? it can verify as its moving? didnt know that <-ubuntu wannabe ^^
[08:46] <histo> ero-jiji: that's what it does.
[08:46] <ero-jiji> even better, i appriciate the input
[08:46] <histo> ero-jiji: in a nutshell
[08:46] <tekkbuzz> anyone know of a command to see if a certain package is installed or not?
[08:46] <histo> subcool_: did you try apt-get without sudo
[08:47] <subcool_> histo, yes-
[08:47] <histo> tekkbuzz: dpkg -l | grep packagename  if it's ii it's installed
[08:47] <histo> subcool_: and then?
[08:47] <subcool_> histo root@kubuntu:/# apt-get install network-manager
[08:47] <subcool_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[08:47] <subcool_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:47] <tekkbuzz> histo: thanks, but that will spool out all the packages, wouldn't that take a while?
[08:48] <histo> subcool_: yeah you need to mount that var partition to /media/long.string.of.numbers.for.root/var
[08:48] <melodyintrance> Can someone tell me how to add "Boot from CD" option in Grub2? (I understand that I can control this in bios but I have to learn how to use Grub2 to achieve the same outcome) Thanks
[08:48] <histo> tekkbuzz: how many packages do you ahve installed?
[08:49] <tekkbuzz> not sure, but a lot.
[08:49] <histo> subcool_: then it will work
[08:49] <histo> tekkbuzz: it's rather fast.
[08:49] <tekkbuzz> hang on, I'll give it a go.
[08:50] <subcool_> histo, do i have to create the folder?
[08:50] <histo> subcool_: no
[08:50] <histo> subcool_: It should be there. your /var partition was mounted on top of it.
[08:50] <subcool_> histo, kubuntu@kubuntu:/media/12d47b21-3d31-45aa-a91f-0c7bc55014b6$ sudo mount /media/701bc099-487c-4bbe-b138-15f7ea4b8170/ /media/12d47b21-3d31-45aa-a91f-0c7bc55kubuntu@kubuntu:/media/12d47b21-3d31-45aa-a91f-0c7bc55014b6$ sudo mount /media/701bc099-487c-4bbe-b138-15f7ea4b8170/ /media/12d47b21-3d31-45aa-a91f-0c7bc55014b6/var/
[08:50] <subcool_> mount: /media/701bc099-487c-4bbe-b138-15f7ea4b8170 is not a block device 014b6/var/
[08:50] <subcool_> mount: /media/701bc099-487c-4bbe-b138-15f7ea4b8170 is not a block device
[08:51] <c|oneman> I'm installing xfce4 on my vps... hopefully it will be a cool toy to play with and I can turn it off when I want server performance
[08:51] <tekkbuzz> histo: thanks, I should have tried it first, you are right. Cool.
[08:51] <litropy> subcool, still with us?
[08:51] <melodyintrance> *bump Can someone tell me how to add "Boot from CD" option in Grub2? (I understand that I can control this in bios but I have to learn how to use Grub2 to achieve the same outcome) Thanks
[08:51] <subcool_> litropy, yeah- right here
[08:51] <subcool_> getting really tired though
[08:52] <histo> subcool_: You can't mount /media/blah to ......../var  you need to mount the device there the same way you mounted it to /media/<701bc*
[08:52] <litropy> subcool where are you at this point
[08:52] <histo> litropy: he's trying to mount his var partition to the root mount point
[08:52] <somsip> melodyintrance: what version of ubuntu?
[08:52] <subcool_> histo, im really tired- :/
[08:52] <melodyintrance> somsip: 12.10
[08:52] <melodyintrance> somsip: 64bit
[08:53] <histo> subcool_: Did you understand what I said on how to fix it?
[08:53] <subcool_> no
[08:53] <histo> subcool_: you are so close
[08:53] <histo> subcool_: how did you mount the var partition to /media/701*
[08:53] <subcool_> 701 is the var partition
[08:54] <subcool_> 12 something is the root
[08:54] <histo> subcool_: or better yet just pastebin the output of    mount all by it self in a terminal on the live cd
[08:54] <histo> subcool_: I will give you command to fix it
[08:54] <subcool_> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584598/
[08:55] <fire> what is vanilla ubuntu ?
[08:55] <iceroot> fire: the normal ubuntu
[08:55] <somsip> melodyintrance: this might help http://www.rohitab.com/discuss/topic/37462-booting-a-cd-via-grub2/
[08:55] <iceroot> fire: vanilla means generally without any changes
[08:55] <fire> iceroot: :)
[08:55] <melodyintrance> somsip: lol I actually was reading through that page
[08:56] <melodyintrance> somsip: but got a little lost
[08:56] <somsip> melodyintrance: sometimes it's best to exhaust your own abilities before asking here to avoid wasting other peoples' time
[08:56] <melodyintrance> somsip: because I couldn't find his solution on that page...I'll read on :-)
[08:56] <histo> subcool_: sudo umount /media/701<tab_key>  first then sudo mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var /media/12d4<tab_key>/var
[08:56] <litropy> subcool, i want to remind you that a full reinstall with backups would have been easier. Really, if I were you, so long as all I had were just documents and other non-system oriented things to back up, I'd just wipe all, forget the partitioning scheme, and reinstall. Like I said, the fewer partitions you have, the better. You mentioned something about sattering your system across partitions so you could somehow preserve your 11.04 setup ... it just
[08:56] <litropy>  complicates things. Really, if you have no reservations about just doing a clean install on one partition, deleting the fragmented system you have, do it.
[08:56] <panorain> sup
[08:57] <histo> litropy: Why did you guys have him remove network manager in the first place?
[08:57] <ero-jiji> @histo got it transferring, now i just have to wait a couple days lol
[08:57] <litropy> histo, I didn't
[08:57] <histo> ero-jiji: did you do the --progress flag?
[08:57] <ero-jiji> yes
[08:57] <histo> ero-jiji: k
[08:57] <litropy> histo, no idea where that came from
[08:57] <histo> litropy: that's the whole problem is someone had him remove network-manager I guess
[08:58] <subcool_> litropy, i dont have a back- i was going to ask about backing that up- the configs.. but.. im way to tired
[08:58] <histo> subcool_: did you get it mounted now with that above command?
[08:58] <ero-jiji> @histo 3.97tb to transfer at 100mbit
[08:58] <histo> ero-jiji: ouch
[08:58] <litropy> subcool_, what, really, do you want to preserve?
[08:58] <panorain> histo can I ask a question about slitaz networking?
[08:59] <histo> panorain: You'd probably get a better response in  a slitaz channel or #linux
[08:59] <panorain> histo ok
[08:59] <ero-jiji> @histo i tried to pay for an 1 month upgrade to 1gbit for both, but they dont offer that option on kimsufi line ><
[08:59] <subcool_> litropy, home. thenany configs tha tmight make it troublesome to just kill- but ill wortty about it tomo
[08:59] <histo> panorain: /j #slitaz
[08:59] <litropy> subcool_, I mean, if you haven't customized your system to the point where you need it to be the way it is, just wipe and reinstall, bro.
[09:00] <histo> litropy: subcool_ or just moutn like I suggested above and install your network-manager packages
[09:00] <subcool_> histo it doesnt like that dev/mapper/ command
[09:00] <sahil> hello :)
[09:00] <litropy> subcool_ you have to ask yourself if another day of this is really worth it.
[09:00] <subcool_> litropy, im considering- been considering it.
[09:01] <raddy_> Hello Everybody
[09:01] <histo> subcool_: pvs command will show the volgroup  then you can lvdisplay /dev/Volgroup... will give you the logvol of var
[09:01] <nyuszika7h> hey raddy_
[09:01] <raddy_> Can't install Ubuntu in a dynamic disk?
[09:01] <sahil> is it possible to set an ogg file as startup sound via terminal ?
[09:01] <histo> subcool_: so you can mount /dev/VolGroup/Logvol##
[09:01] <nyuszika7h> raddy_: what do you mean by "dynamic"?
[09:01] <raddy_> nyuszika7h : basic / dynamic disk type in windows
[09:01] <subcool_> pvs?
[09:02] <subcool_> histo, ^^
[09:02] <histo> subcool_: yes
[09:02] <nyuszika7h> raddy_: you should probably just let the Ubuntu installer create a partition, instead of creating one from Windows
[09:02] <James_IRC> Yo! Fresh install of ubuntu. Top 5 addons to install?
[09:02] <histo> subcool_: probably going to be MyVG or whatever you named it.
[09:03] <nyuszika7h> or use gparted if you want to do it manually
[09:03] <nyuszika7h> James_IRC: "addons"?
[09:03] <subcool_> i cant get past /dev/mapp
[09:03] <raddy_> nyuszika7h : does ubuntu desktop iso contains live?
[09:03] <histo> subcool_: aparently not
[09:04] <litropy> subcool_ it's just really odd with the partitions and all. Someone better than me, like histo, would tell you different, but considering your lack of understanding of your current setup, I'd just wipe and reinstall, if you just want this to be fixed with no other problems in the future.
[09:04] <nyuszika7h> raddy_: I think so
[09:04] <James_IRC> Apps, etc. Whatever you call them. Not going to get caught up in terminology
[09:04] <nyuszika7h> subcool_: do you mean /dev/mapper doesn't exist or is empty?
[09:04] <histo> subcool_: It should work though using mapper
[09:04] <subcool_> litropy, ive been trying to narrow it down- but those damn LVM got me confused
[09:04] <nyuszika7h> have you tried 'sudo modprobe device-mapper'?
[09:04] <nyuszika7h> sudo vgscan && sudo vgchange -ay
[09:05] <histo> subcool_: did you umount the var one first?
[09:05] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody
[09:05] <subcool_> im trying- i use sudo mount /dev/ma - but tab doesnt work with mapper
[09:05] <subcool_> yea
[09:05] <histo> subcool_: sudo umount /media/701<tab_key>  first then sudo mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var /media/12d4<tab_key>/var
[09:05] <subcool_> histo, yea- i got that,
[09:05] <histo> subcool_: you can type /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var
[09:05] <hxm> how can i rollback a apt-get upgrade?
[09:06] <histo> !downgrade | hxm
[09:06] <subcool_> right- i did, but then i went to /media/12 and it wont tab
[09:06] <nyuszika7h> same for downgrading packages
[09:06] <hxm> mysql has been updated and now i have problems with my php site, not sure if is the adodblite driver or what but the previous version of mysql worked ok
[09:07] <hxm> i remake the question then: how to install a desired version of a package?
[09:07] <hxm> im using ubuntu lts
[09:07] <hxm> server
[09:07] <histo> subcool_: unmount /media/12..... then mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise /mnt && mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var /mnt/var
[09:07] <TheGrey_> If I install nvidia driver from nvidia will it auto-update? (http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/313.18/README/installdriver.html)  I ask because I think my current nvidia driver (from nvidia installer) is all of a sudden corrupted: blender cannot open via nvidia, only by Opengl. I basically just want to install the driver and make sure it doesn't auto-update. Should I uninstall my current driver and then install nvidia from the repos?
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> hxm: sudo apt-get install package:123-45   (:version-number) if that version still is in the repos
[09:08] <histo> subcool_: then chroot /mnt   and apt-get install your stuff and be done.
[09:08] <lordcyfer> I am about to buy a new lapop and i want to be sure that Ubuntu will install correctly and network / screen are ok THe modele is an HP Pavilion g7-2220us   is there a way to check ?
[09:08] <histo> !hcl | lordcyfer
[09:09] <histo> hxm: should have only been a security fix if it's LTS
[09:09] <iceroot> hxm: there is only one version in the repos (always the latest) so you cant install a previous version because its not in the repos anymore
[09:10] <subcool_> ok getting there
[09:10] <nyuszika7h> is there a text-only 12.04.1 LTS server ISO available for ubuntu which I can use via serial console?
[09:10] <hxm> so i want to die
[09:10] <iceroot> nyuszika7h: what is wrong with the normal server iso?
[09:10] <iceroot> nyuszika7h: its text only
[09:11] <hxm> i restart the service and it works, after a few minutes idle it fails again
[09:11] <hxm> until i restart
[09:11] <airsploit> yello, mysql was misbehaving, i deinstalled it but now can't install it
[09:11] <nyuszika7h> iceroot: I'm trying to install it in QEMU/KVM
[09:11] <iceroot> !details | hxm
[09:11] <nyuszika7h> and it just says "640x480 graphical mode"
[09:11] <iceroot> nyuszika7h: and kvm has a normal tty1 access
[09:12] <Fudge> where does dch -i to modify changes file in packaging get your email address field from?
[09:12] <AcidRain> i have a sql server. i want to be able to remotely access it. what is the best way to do this? i wish to execute remote querys. i want it to be secure.
[09:12] <subcool_> that more recent mount scheme isnt working out
[09:12] <airsploit> whenever i try to install it i get error message saying can't find package mysql
[09:12] <iceroot> Fudge: from a var
[09:12] <subcool_> and the orignal isnt either...
[09:12] <histo> airsploit: how idd you deinstall it?
[09:12] <lordcyfer> The page that the bot propose is obsolete
[09:13] <airsploit> apt @ histo
[09:13] <histo> subcool_: it's case sensitive
[09:13] <Fudge> iceroot  my .bashrc has my GPGKEY fullname and debemail so i am not sure why it is not working, cant find the page to tell me how to test it
[09:13] <histo> lordcyfer: the first link
[09:13] <subcool_> histo, its not likeing the process.
[09:14] <iceroot> Fudge: man dch
[09:14] <lordcyfer> These laptop tests are now out of date, for newer tests see the Laptop Testing Team pages
[09:14] <subcool_> histo, root@kubuntu:/media# mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise /mnt
[09:14] <subcool_> mount: /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise already mounted or /mnt busy
[09:14] <subcool_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise is already mounted on /mnt
[09:14] <hxm> Using ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, I have a php site using mysqli adodb_lite, after use apt-get upgrade the database connection stopped to work with a message error mysql connect (2) 2002, i restart the server and goes well for a few time, seems like mysql::ping wont reconnect
[09:14] <iceroot> Fudge: Each user should set DEBEMAIL or EMAIL in their shell initialization. For example:
[09:14] <iceroot> export EMAIL='J. Random Hacker <jr@hax0r.com>"
[09:15] <airsploit> histo?
[09:15] <histo> subcool_: alright if you check mount you will see where /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise is mounted if it's already mounted to /mnt
[09:15] <iceroot> Fudge: http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/dch/
[09:15] <histo> subcool_: there is no output when it works btw
[09:15] <Fudge> iceroot  thanks, I have it but am reading the page
[09:15] <subcool_> histo, its not working- by tab
[09:15] <histo> airsploit: apt-get install mysql
[09:15] <nyuszika7h> subcool_: that's because it's already mounted
[09:16] <nyuszika7h> bash doesn't complete already mounted things with Tab
[09:16] <subcool_> im just following the flow- im really tired right now. im coming close to seeing two of this scren
[09:16] <airsploit> apt-get install mysql
[09:16] <airsploit> Reading package lists... Done
[09:16] <airsploit> Building dependency tree
[09:16] <airsploit> Reading state information... Done
[09:16] <airsploit> E: Couldn't find package mysql
[09:16] <histo> subcool_: okay try mounting the var one now to /mnt/var
[09:16] <iceroot> airsploit: mysql-server
[09:16] <histo> subcool_: then chroot /mnt
[09:16] <subcool_> that worked
[09:16] <airsploit> same error @ iceroot
[09:16] <ribot> hey
[09:17] <iceroot> airsploit: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[09:17] <iceroot> airsploit: if that fails please post "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:17] <iceroot> !paste | airsploit
[09:17] <subcool_> ok- im in /mnt
[09:17] <ribot> i want to install expect, such as: "sudo apt-get install expect", but it tries to install some tcl package, and not commandline expect which is what i need
[09:18] <histo> subcool_: okay apt-get update && apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[09:18] <subcool_> it wont install
[09:18] <histo> subcool_: What's the error now?
[09:18] <subcool_> wont tab
[09:19] <histo> subcool_: apt-get update && apt-get install network-manager   You can't type that?
[09:19] <nyuszika7h> ribot: it IS what you are looking for.
[09:19] <histo> subcool_: or copy and paste it
[09:19] <subcool_> lol - good point
[09:19] <histo> jesus
[09:19] <airsploit> cat /etc/issue
[09:19] <subcool_> sory- told ya- im tired
[09:19] <airsploit> BackTrack 5 - Code Name Revolution 32 bit\n \l
[09:19] <nyuszika7h> !backtrack | airsploit
[09:20] <burtonium> anyone else had troubles connecting with Empathy to Facebook through xmpp? I am keep getting network error. And it suggest me to go online and edit personal information.
[09:20] <airsploit> then the sources.list is empty
[09:20] <histo> lol
[09:20] <histo> airsploit: /j #backtrack-linux
[09:20]  * airsploit lulz
[09:20] <subcool_> histo, thank - its install
[09:20] <subcool_> installing*
[09:21] <subcool_> ok- well those are installed.. now what?
[09:21] <subcool_> im glad im not at my sisters still, she has isdn - ugh- is that slow
[09:22] <histo> subcool_: okay now install any other packages you removed.
[09:23] <histo> subcool_: also you can edit the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  file you changed as well as /etc/network/interfaces   and remove the nameserver lines that you added
[09:23] <subcool_> histo, i dont remember- lol
[09:23] <histo> subcool_: there should be a /var/log/apt/history.log   you can see what you remvoed
[09:28] <Gyro54> I am having internal errors caused by samba4? should I remove samba and replace? Is anyone else having these problems?
[09:30] <histo> Gyro54: where did you get samba4 from?
[09:30] <histo> !info samba
[09:31] <histo> ahh nvm I see it in universe
[09:31] <Gyro54> histo: I have no idea but it is causing continuous crashes. I did not install it
[09:31] <histo> Gyro54: well you had to install it. It's not a main component. You can remove it and install the samba package instead.
[09:32] <Gyro54> histo: will do - Thanks
[09:32] <subcool_> histo, i didnt just add them, i erased the origns. but icrated a back= so ill just replace it.
[09:33] <histo> subcool_: erased origins?
[09:33] <subcool_> histo, honestly im not really sure what to change the interfaces and /resov./resolve
[09:34] <histo> subcool_: just reboot and see if it works after you install network-manager
[09:35] <subcool_> k- thanks again histo.. ill see what it comes to..
[09:36] <subcool_> ill have to catch up with u later- im exhausted.
[09:37] <rndbit> when i press [edit] in network manager to edit my openvpn connection i get error "Did not receive a reply. ...". Anyone know what thing openvpn needs running for that?
[09:38] <rndbit> when i had vpn secrets stored in secure storage it would complain about missing handler or something, in log this error: [nm-vpn-connection.c:1405] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2: (6) No agents were available for this request.
[09:39] <c|oneman> noiceeee
[09:39] <c|oneman> I got xfce working with nx free
[09:42] <subcool_> histo, - yeah, didnt work
[09:44] <histo> subcool_: IDK what you did before I got here but sounds like you removed a bunch of stuff for no reason at all. Also you have a wierd partitioning scheme. Usually only used on servers
[09:44] <subcool_> histo, i only removed network manager and ufw
[09:44] <ewoerner> hi, i'm looking for postgresql 9.2 packages for raring
[09:45] <subcool_> histo, and now eth0 is missing
[09:45] <auronandace> !raring | ewoerner
[09:45] <histo> subcool_: wow.
[09:45] <ewoerner> auronandace: okay, thank you
[09:46] <Syria>  Hello!! I have deleted all the users in the phpmyadmin by accedent!! How can create a new user agian?? I can't log in.
[09:46] <victover> everyday I'm converting more and more people to linux. this is a friends computer running ubuntu right now.  can't believe I'm using 12.04 over 12.10 but it is supposed to be less rescources and easier to customize thats for sure
[09:46] <subcool_> histo, im rebooting into the liveusb...
[09:46] <subcool_> but- i have to goto bed..
[09:46] <subcool_> so- ill just catch up later'
[09:46] <karstenk1977_> hello
[09:46] <histo> subcool_: I would get some sleep. and reinstall tomorrow since you have a
[09:46] <histo> k
[09:47] <victover> restarting computer brb
[09:48] <karstenk1977_> my fresh installed shoutcast server 2.0 won´t start. can someone tell me how i can debug the startscript. if i want to restart it says, I have first to kill the process, but if I kill it, it starts fast again.
[09:48] <subcool_> histo, thanks again..
[09:49] <histo> subcool_: np
[09:59] <guang> when i run webscurify on 10.04,the console tells "Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: icons too large".how to resolve it?
[10:02] <basiclaser> hello chaps i was wondering if anyone can help me disable the OSX apple 'boonngg' sound on bootup. I had ubuntu single boot installed this morning. I currently have no OS whilst im tweaking stuff, and really want to get rid of this sound first
[10:04] <guang> basiclaser:my ubuntu version is 10.04,system->startup application->gnome login sound.maybe you can try to disable it
[10:05] <DJones> basiclaser: Hopefully this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/24946/how-do-i-disable-the-drum-beat-sound-on-the-login-screen once you've got it installed
[10:06] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: sudo mv /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready{,-disabled}.ogg
[10:06] <john_rambo> flash plugin is installed but cant watch flash content
[10:07] <Muimi> I'm using an Ubuntu live CD, and I'd like to be able to attach my phone via USB, so that I can use the keyboard as an input.
[10:07] <basiclaser> ok just to clarify it is the OSX sound im trying to remove, infact when i turn on my mac, the screen is greyish white a la mac, it makes the mac sound, and then after an akward moment it boots into ubuntu
[10:07] <basiclaser> i want to remove the weird mac shell from the computer entirely
[10:07] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: so its a mac issue,you're wrong here
[10:08] <kevin574> hi all
[10:08] <basiclaser> yes but my only hope is to remove it through ubuntu as i dont have any OSX install discs
[10:09] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: makes more sense to ask in a os-x channel about the changes you have to do than here
[10:10] <basiclaser> ok thanks, on a similar note, which hd format does debian prefer, if any? and can i format with gparted? im looking but cant see the format option
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: ext4 is widely used today, there is no real standard
[10:12] <basiclaser> im gonna try 'deleting' all drive content and replacing with zeros in desperate attempt to kill mac sound
[10:12] <basiclaser> i get the impression its coming from elsewhere though, the hd appears to be unallocated entirely
[10:13] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: it definetly comes from "somewhere" if the sound appears before you boot into any OS. uefi/bios (hoever apple names it) think
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> thing
[10:14] <basiclaser> where do you think that exists? i mean its not necessarily on the hdd right?
[10:14] <basiclaser> oh
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: EFI, internal ROM, something like that
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> basiclaser: thats why you should ask in a mac-channel
[10:15] <DJones> basiclaser: The other place to ask is probably ##hardware
[10:20] <TakeItEZ> Host 'carryme', running Linux 3.5.0-25-generic - Cpu0: Intel 800 MHz Cpu1: Intel 800 MHz; Up: 2:21; Users: 2; Load: 0; Free: [Mem: 1409/3849 Mio] [Swap: 3935/3937 Mio] [/: 9301/15119 Mio] [/home/lutz/daten: 43671/50397 Mio]; Vpenis: 157 cm;
[10:20] <TakeItEZ> ouch, srry
[10:31] <basiclaser> hey guys i intend on dual booting two different linuxes, should i install some sort of grub bootloader thing before installing the OS' ?
[10:32] <iceroot> basiclaser: grub will be installed by default
[10:32] <auronandace> basiclaser: if you install ubuntu last then you can use ubuntu's grub to boot the other linux too
[10:32] <iceroot> basiclaser: just install the two systems, the second should detect the first one and create grub entries
[10:32] <dr_willis> depending on the linuxes. t
[10:33] <dr_willis> you may need to do some grub tweaking
[10:33] <basiclaser> im gonna install ubuntu first then crunchbang
[10:33] <dr_willis> why use crunchbang at all?
[10:33] <Vinyas> My lockscreen turns on and off infinitely.. asking to enter password to unlock, after a while it timeout and turns off.
[10:34] <Vinyas> Is this the right place to ask this question?
[10:35] <dr_willis> Vinyas: if you are using ubuntu  yes.
[10:35] <Vinyas> Yeah, I am.
[10:35] <dr_willis> i turn off the lock stuff.
[10:35] <dr_willis> so no idea on lock issues
[10:35] <Vinyas> I lock it using CTRL+ALT+L
[10:36] <Vinyas> So, it keeps doing that until the battery goes dead.
[10:36] <Vinyas> How do you lock your computer when you're going afk?
[10:37] <dr_willis> i dont need to.. the dog dosent look at porn...
[10:37] <dr_willis> ;-)
[10:37] <Vinyas> Oh, my room mates do. ;)
[10:37] <dr_willis> hes been fixed..... perhaps....
[10:38] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: but all those cute kittenz...
[10:38] <gypsydanger> what is the command to uninstall something
[10:38] <TakeItEZ> gypsydanger: sudo apt-get purge packagename
[10:38] <gypsydanger> got it thanks
[10:39] <TakeItEZ> gypsydanger: sudo apt-get remove packagename          if you want to keep configs
[10:39] <justafly> hi all
[10:39] <Vinyas> Posted the question in askubuntu. Hope someone has a solution.
[10:40] <varunendra> Vinyas, what is the version of Ubuntu you are using ?
[10:40] <Vinyas> 12.10
[10:40] <M1DLG> I have installed 12.04 32bit 4 times, every install goes fine until first boot  and then refuses to startup to desktop. I get a boot error "starting load fallback graphics device - fail" it's an nvidia card and the nvidia drivers are installed.
[10:41] <varunendra> 64 bit ?
[10:41] <Vinyas> Updated from 12.04 just 4 days back and have had more than 4 problems.
[10:41] <Vinyas> Yeah, 64.
[10:42] <M1DLG> oops 12.10 32bit. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:42] <varunendra> Vinyas,  I'm not sure I understand ur q correctly. What is the url of your q @ askubuntu ?
[10:42] <dr_willis> install the nvidia drivers via the console...  what card is it?
[10:42] <Vinyas> http://askubuntu.com/questions/263800/lock-screen-turn-off-and-on-goes-to-a-loop-asking-to-enter-password-to-unlock
[10:43] <M1DLG> thanks dr_willis, it's a 8600 512mb card
[10:43] <dr_willis> and is it a dual gpu optimus thing.
[10:43] <ribot> nyuszika7h: thanks
[10:43] <varunendra> k. will take a look, no ideas atm,
[10:43] <nyuszika7h> you're wel-
[10:43] <nyuszika7h> whatever
[10:43] <M1DLG> optimus? no idea
[10:43] <dr_willis> !info nvidia-current
[10:43] <Vinyas> varunendra: Thanks.
[10:43] <varunendra> :)
[10:43] <dr_willis> optimus is on many new laptoos
[10:44] <M1DLG> ok
[10:44] <M1DLG> I am stuck on boot can i break this like i can under windoze f5/f8?
[10:46] <dr_willis> !text
[10:46] <savior> 求助
[10:46] <M1DLG> thank you again :)
[10:48] <varunendra> Vinyas,
[10:49] <Vinyas> Yeah, I'm still here. You have any solution?
[10:51] <varunendra> Vinyas, see the dialogue tab above..
[10:51] <Vinyas> Sorry, I didn't get you.
[10:52] <varunendra> 1 to 1 dialogue tab :) - among the list of channels open
[10:52] <Vinyas> Oh, lol ok.
[10:57] <whhhhhh> why can't ubuntu detect my tuner card ?
[10:57] <whhhhhh> whyyyyy
[10:58] <L33T> hi
[10:58] <dr_willis> hardware maker releases no specs whhhhhh
[10:59] <whhhhhh> what do you mean ?
[10:59] <Vinyas> Ah! I got the solution, thanks to varunendra! Apparently VLC(or any other media player) running in the background was doing it.
[10:59] <dr_willis> if the hardware maker dosent try to support linux.. its hard to support their hardware.
[10:59] <varunendra> Yay!!
[11:01] <whhhhhh> it is based on command chipset
[11:02] <vorlket> hi i want to install raid0 of /srv on three disks and the rest on another disk. how do i do that?
[11:05] <whhhhhh> isn
[11:05] <whhhhhh> isn't that raid is cmos job ?
[11:06] <vorlket> what's that?
[11:06] <whhhhhh> what's what
[11:06] <vorlket> cmos?
[11:07] <whhhhhh> i'm poor can't effort mulit hd so can't help u
[11:11] <pseudonymous_> A quick ref on how to DISABLE a service using upstart ? I need to disable whoopsie for a series of tests - but I don't feel like removing it (especially because it isn't my server)
[11:12] <jrib> pseudonymous_: read about manual overrides in the upstart cookbook
[11:23] <TakeItEZ> pseudonymous_: add "manual" to the upstart-script (/etc/init/*.conf)
[11:24] <varunendra> vorlket, cmos is the eeprom chip on the motherboard that holds the BIOS program.
[11:25] <vorlket> varunendra: okay
[11:25] <basiclaser> hey guys when i try to install crunchbang, it doesnt boot i get a flashing question but when i install ubuntu which eventually boots. what is happening to create this difference?
[11:27] <varunendra> basiclaser, try boot-repair. If it can't help I guess a crunchbang forum or maybe a dedicated channel would be a good place to ask.
[11:29] <basiclaser> varunendra: the options i have are load debconf prefconfiguration file and change debconf priority
[11:30] <varunendra> basiclaser, no idea about that, sorry. What happens if you load the preconfiguration btw ?
[11:31] <basiclaser> varunendra: it said the file could not be retrieved
[11:32] <varunendra> :( Again, try boot repair.
[11:32] <basiclaser> varunendra:  yeh ok i cant find that option atm, could i use ubuntu live disk to access that function?
[11:33] <varunendra> u mean boot-repair ?
[11:34] <basiclaser> varunendra:  yeh
[11:34] <varunendra> basiclaser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:34] <seba4> hi there... one question ... i need to run process and if process crashes i need to restart it ..
[11:34] <TakeItEZ> !crunchbang | basiclaser
[11:34] <seba4> how can i do that_
[11:36] <amcsi_work> hi
[11:36] <amcsi_work> how can I get curl working with libssh2? please help
[11:37] <TakeItEZ> !info watchdog | seba4 yo might use this and watch the pid
[11:37] <aguitel> is there any way to install upgrade after april/2013 in 10.04 ?
[11:38] <drsource> ls
[11:38] <drsource> df -a
[11:39] <wan> any wireless metasploit manuals out there?
[11:40] <k1l> wan: no, not in here
[11:44] <Amin> greetings all
[11:45] <linuxist> greetings Amin
[11:45] <Amin> can anyone please check this bug on launchpad and see if they can help me
[11:45] <Amin> here is the link
[11:45] <Amin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1137317
[11:46] <linuxist> Amin: what are your MTUs on the broken ethernet adapter?
[11:46] <Amin> Am still an amateur
[11:46] <ikonia> quit
[11:46] <ikonia> oops
[11:46] <ikonia> sorry
[11:46] <Amin> can you define what is MTU?
[11:46] <linuxist> Amin: no problems, go to the console and type "ifconfig eth0"
[11:47] <linuxist> then look for a line like this "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:"
[11:47] <Amin> 1500
[11:47] <linuxist> ah ok
[11:47] <Amin> but am using wireless connection and not a wired one
[11:47] <linuxist> that's still ok
[11:47] <linuxist> we just had a bunch of people upgrade Ubuntu at work last week and all their MTUs were wrong
[11:47] <linuxist> I thought it might be another case of that
[11:47] <k1l> that is not a problem of the MTU. that is some package stuff gone wrong, imho
[11:48] <Amin> my wlan0 MTU  is also 1500
[11:48] <Amin> well how can i fix that
[11:48] <Amin> i cant upgrade at all
[11:48] <k1l> Amin: run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:48] <Amin> i need to upgrade my packages
[11:48] <Amin> i did
[11:48] <Amin> it wont upgrade
[11:49] <Amin> even sudo apt-get -f install gives me an error
[11:49] <Amin> i will give it another try anyway
[11:49] <k1l> Amin: i think that the maintainer there made a misstake and when he fixed that it will update the packages and that will be solved
[11:50] <Amin> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[11:50] <Amin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:50] <Amin>  linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-extra-3.5.0-25-generic but it is not installed
[11:50] <Amin> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[11:50] <Amin> it still wont work
[11:51] <k1l> Amin: you have PPAs or other 3rd party sources included?
[11:53] <Amin> i do
[11:53] <Amin> but the package causing the problem is linux-generic-image
[11:53] <Amin> the kernel that is
[11:56] <varunendra> Amin, try clearing the cached packages then retry an update
[11:57] <Amin> also used the janitor
[11:57] <Amin> but can you suggest a better way to clean up the cache?
[11:58] <TakeItEZ> sudo apt-get clean
[11:58] <varunendra> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:59] <m1dlg> I've tried with minimum help, i know you guys are busy. i cant work this out. I have no video driver by the looks of it. I get text if i go into rescue mode, and im in console ok on the pc but normal boot freezes. this all happened after install and then trying to install nvidia driver i drivers
[11:59] <m1dlg> i have tryed commands like apt-get etc... but I get  /var/lib/dpkg/lock errors
[11:59] <varunendra> Amin, I hope u understand you'll need a working internet connection
[12:00] <Ben64> m1dlg: give more info. what video card, what did you do to install it, what version of ubuntu, etc
[12:00] <amcsi_work> ./configure --with-libssh2= ... where is my libssh2? how can I find it?
[12:00] <Ben64> !info libssh2-1-dev | amcsi_work
[12:00] <Amin> i do
[12:00] <Amin> am trying it
[12:00] <Amin> it still gives me the same error
[12:00] <m1dlg> ben64, 12.10 32 bit desktop version. and it's a 8600 512 card
[12:01] <Ben64> m1dlg: so its not a laptop?
[12:01] <varunendra> Amin, @ which command ?
[12:01] <m1dlg> no, pc. i'm using a laptop to get this chat
[12:02] <Ben64> m1dlg: and how did you install nvidia?
[12:02] <amcsi_work> but where is it located?
[12:02] <amcsi_work> I need to point to it
[12:02] <Amin> first
[12:02] <Ben64> amcsi_work: try the "find" and/or "locate" commands
[12:02] <varunendra> apt-get clean ????
[12:02] <rsvp> the updated pidgin feels more solid... do you concur?
[12:02] <amcsi_work> an article I am reading says I should put /usr/local, but I don't see libssh2 there
[12:03] <TakeItEZ> amcsi_work: dpkg -L packagename
[12:03] <m1dlg> the little pci device symbol that came up about a minute after getting the first desktop boot.
[12:03] <Amin> i guess
[12:03] <Amin> do you want me to capture the output to a file and send it to u
[12:03] <Amin> ?
[12:03] <Ben64> m1dlg: so you're at the recovery console now
[12:04] <m1dlg> yes
[12:04] <varunendra> try each command separately (&& id a joiner)
[12:04] <Ben64> m1dlg: mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[12:04] <varunendra> *is
[12:04] <m1dlg> k
[12:04] <Amin> autoremove wont work
[12:05] <Amin> unmet dependencies
[12:05] <amcsi_work> Is this what I need then? /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssh2.so.1.0.1
[12:05] <Amin> linux-image-extra-3.5.0-25-generic
[12:05] <amcsi_work> because it showed multiple rows as results for dpkg -L packagename
[12:06] <m1dlg> ok, i guess this gave me read write access, should I try to apt-get again?
[12:06] <Ben64> m1dlg: apt-get what
[12:07] <varunendra> Amin, see the channel list and reply the dialogue one I just opened for you
[12:07] <m1dlg> the drivers, I was trying to follow help pages I'd found, but i couldnt get started
[12:07] <Ben64> m1dlg: if you'd like
[12:08] <mbecona> Hello, I want to deactivate any fancy 3d graphics stuff in 12.10. I don't want compiz and this processor killers (running ubuntu on a slim system with no 3d graka)
[12:08] <mbecona> Can anybody help me how to get rid of all the crap ?
[12:08] <Ben64> !nounity | mbecona
[12:09] <atodex> hello
[12:10] <atodex> guys, I have a "big" problem and it's driving me nuts
[12:10] <atodex> the volume button disappeared from the menu bar
[12:10] <Ben64> atodex: did you uninstall pulseaudio
[12:10] <atodex> I know that it's in the notification applet, but it's not anymore, reinstalled pulseaudio
[12:10] <e-dard> Hi all. I have to (reluctantly) enable password-based logins to one of our boxes for a user. For some weird reason, SSH won't accept the password when connecting. Password is fine locally. Any ideas?
[12:11] <e-dard> I have even changed it to something simple like 'apple' and it won't' accept it!
[12:11] <ikonia> e-dard: what does the auth log say
[12:11] <e-dard> PasswordAuthentication yes in sshd_config and I have done sudo service ssh restart
[12:11] <nearst> hi ppl
[12:12] <e-dard> ikonia: Failed password for ubuntu from 122.xxx.xxx.xx port 59726 ssh2
[12:12] <ikonia> e-dard: ok, so you need to look at how it's doing the auth
[12:12] <ikonia> e-dard: did you set clear text passwords to enabled ?
[12:13] <e-dard> but above it it says something like: sshd[7631]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for [HOSTNAME] [xxx.xxx.xxx.xx] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[12:13] <ikonia> e-dard: that's ok, your dns is messed up
[12:13] <e-dard> ikonia: so "POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT" does not imply it may have banned password access for user?
[12:14] <ikonia> e-dard: are you using a password locking process, such as fail2ban ?
[12:14] <e-dard> (not sure what default security settings on Ubuntu VMs are)
[12:15] <amcsi_work> this is so frustrating
[12:15] <jackarg> hello I was here yesterday and i was helped but in vain. I'll ask again to see if anyone knows. I just installed nvidia graphics ('nvidia-current' and others) and then my computer got stuck in unity 2D with a 640x480 resolution. I deleted all the nvidia stuff, purged the ppa, and now i have unity 3D, but I am STILL stuck in the low resolution. PLEASE any help would be really really appreciated
[12:15] <Amin> am sry back
[12:15] <e-dard> ikonia: no not using fail2ban (yet)
[12:15] <amcsi_work> I ./configured a libcurl with ssh support
[12:15] <ikonia> e-dard: then the password is not locked
[12:15] <amcsi_work> it seemingly went well
[12:15] <atodex> guys, is it normal to get some clipping effect from pulesaudio? it's annoying as Hell
[12:15] <amcsi_work> I did make, I have NO idea whether it worked
[12:15] <ikonia> e-dard: you can verify this by doing "su - user" and testing the password
[12:15] <ikonia> amcsi_work: then why are you doing it ?
[12:15] <amcsi_work> then make install, NO idea if it worked, and NO idea where it would have installed it if it worked
[12:16] <ikonia> amcsi_work: why are you blindly typing commands
[12:16] <amcsi_work> how am I supposed to figure these things out?
[12:16] <ikonia> amcsi_work: by asking
[12:16] <ikonia> amcsi_work: rather than blindly typing commands
[12:16] <nearst> howdy
[12:16] <amcsi_work> please help me with getting curl with libssh2 working
[12:16] <amcsi_work> I was looking at online articles
[12:16] <ikonia> amcsi_work: I'm not undoing what you've done,
[12:16] <e-dard> ikonia: aha! doesn't work!
[12:16] <amcsi_work> and failing with them as usual
[12:16] <ikonia> e-dard: we have a winner
[12:16] <amcsi_work> I probably didn't do anything
[12:17] <e-dard> ikonia: I guess the VM I'm using is setup weird (by default it's setup with no passwords and just keys for getting in)
[12:17] <m1dlg> is there anyway of slowing down the messages in recovery console everytime i type a command?
[12:17] <e-dard> It's an EC2 ubuntu vm
[12:17] <amcsi_work> would you please help assuming I didn't do anything?
[12:18] <aguitel> is there any way to install upgrades after april/2013 in 10.04 ?
[12:18] <jackarg> seriously can anyone help about the low screen reslution this is kind of urgent considering my laptop is partly unsuable now!!
[12:19] <e-dard> ikonia: so any idea where to go next with this?
[12:19] <ikonia> e-dard: lets look at this a bit higher level
[12:19] <nearst> xrandr
[12:19] <ikonia> amcsi_work: you did do things though - that will effect what you do next
[12:19] <ikonia> e-dard: is this VM something you / your business built ?
[12:20] <amcsi_work> I tried to make install a curl installation, but most likely failed
[12:20] <amcsi_work> before that I successfully installed a libssh2-1 by source, but I don't know where
[12:21] <e-dard> ikonia: no it's canonical's EC2 VM. It's in list of official VMs when deploying new instance
[12:21] <Ben64> amcsi_work: this channel isn't really for helping out with compilation
[12:21] <ikonia> e-dard: ok, so it should be a stock vm image, agreed ?
[12:21] <nearst> amcsi_work, usually compile binary is on /usr/local/bin
[12:21] <e-dard> ikonia: yup. natty
[12:22] <ikonia> e-dard: ok, so lets do this "sudo password username"
[12:22] <e-dard> done that
[12:22] <ikonia> e-dard: set the users password
[12:22] <e-dard> yup
[12:22] <ikonia> e-dard: ok, now test it with su - user
[12:22] <e-dard> oh wait....
[12:22] <amcsi_work> thanks, nearst
[12:22] <e-dard> oh wait….I have done sudo passwd, before… Not sudo passwd *my_user*
[12:22] <ikonia> e-dard: ok, that's the problem
[12:23] <slacks> :P
[12:23] <ikonia> e-dard: your not setting the right users password
[12:23] <e-dard> I'm setting root password, right….. *facepalm*
[12:23] <Ben64> also opens up a second problem
[12:23] <Ben64> yep
[12:23] <ikonia> e-dard: lets put it back to normal
[12:23] <tekk> hi guys, i'm running Ubuntu from a Mac Mini with BIOS emulation
[12:23] <ikonia> e-dard: sudo passwd -l root
[12:23] <Ben64> root password as "apple" :|
[12:23] <tekk> i'd rather boot natively with EFI...
[12:23] <tekk> can anyone let me know if this is stable now ? and point me in the right directioN? (apple's EFI isn't UEFI)
[12:23] <e-dard> Ben64: it's not apple, and it's not possible to ssh in with root anyway ;-)
[12:23] <tekk> 12.04 server
[12:24] <e-dard> Is lock equivalent to remove then?
[12:24] <ikonia> e-dard: pretty much
[12:24] <ikonia> e-dard: so lets re-lock your root password
[12:24] <IzzoDizzo> anybody running ubuntu on a macbook pro? (optimus technology)
[12:25] <e-dard> but it does't stop me from being able to use sudo right?
[12:25] <e-dard> 3
[12:25] <IzzoDizzo> i'm unable to get the nvidia drivers to show anything, and nouveau drivers random freeze :x
[12:25] <ikonia> e-dard: correct
[12:25] <ikonia> e-dard: no risk
[12:25] <e-dard> OK, done that and will now do user password properly :)
[12:26] <benedikt> is there a (3-rd party, non-canonical) flavour of ubuntu that is as wonderfully usable but free of the privacy issues ubuntu comes with these days?
[12:26] <tekk> basically, i have 2 Mac Mini's one running debian booting from efi and another from ubuntu bios emulation…. the ubuntu box's kvm guests randomly start consuming more and more CPU… until eventually the box dies… this doesn't happen on the debian box with the same VM
[12:26] <tekk> the only differences i can think of are
[12:26] <tekk> DEbian vs Ubuntu
[12:26] <tekk> EFI vs BIOS emu
[12:26] <tekk> and different kernels
[12:26] <ejv> e-dard: man passwd ; straight from the documentation about -l, --lock: "Note that this does not disable the account. The user may still be able to login using another authentication token (e.g. an SSH key)."
[12:27] <ejv> benedikt: sounds like you want #debian, good luck.
[12:28] <benedikt> ejv: long time debian user.
[12:28] <e-dard> ikonia: awesome! thanks for help. (very silly of me that one)
[12:28] <benedikt> ejv: no, what i want is a "ubuntu flavour without privacy issues"
[12:28] <ikonia> e-dard: not a problem
[12:28] <ikonia> benedikt: ubuntu is fine for that
[12:28] <ejv> shhh ikonia
[12:28] <ejv> o:-)
[12:29] <benedikt> ikonia: no, ubuntu has huge privacy issues and i dont feel like i can trust canonical any more than facebook.
[12:29] <e-dard> ikonia: I'm not used to passwords in all reality… I've been using key-based auth for so long now forgot about setting passwords properly!
[12:29]  * ejv sighs
[12:29] <ikonia> benedikt: ok - then this channel is of no use to you, please use another distro that you are happy with
[12:29] <DJones> !adlens | benedikt Problem solved,
[12:29] <atodex> guys, I don't understand this sound fucking madness. I know that I uninstalled pulseaudio, but I can't find how to reinstall it again. I spent freaking 3 hours trying to make my sound work and I am tired, mad, damn. I want to specify, I have a Razer Megalodon 7.1 headset. Can you help me?
[12:29] <ejv> !language | atodex
[12:30] <atodex> sry for language, but I am really tired
[12:30] <benedikt> DJones: it's not a question of being able to disable it, i'm asking if there is an ubuntu flavour that does not accept using this as the default or not?
[12:30] <ejv> no apologies necessary, sames goes for excuses :)
[12:30] <ikonia> benedikt: don't use it then, there are other distros, good luck
[12:30] <ejv> s/sames/same/g
[12:31] <Ben64> atodex: how did you uninstall pulseaudio
[12:31] <benedikt> ikonia: so yes, this channel is of use to me, since i'm staying off topic. I've used linux for decades, you dont need to educate me about other distros, thats off-topic.
[12:31] <atodex> followed a guide online
[12:31] <ikonia> benedikt: ok, then you know the answer.
[12:31] <Ben64> atodex: i mean what command did you do
[12:31] <nearst> zzz
[12:31] <IzzoDizzo> why a ubuntu flavour benedikt?
[12:31] <benedikt> and, funnily enough, lack of proper pulseaudio support is why i dont want debian at the moment
[12:32] <benedikt> IzzoDizzo: ubuntu/canonical have made a buch of technical stuff for linux on the desktop that is really good.
[12:32] <atodex> it's insane, I kept getting sound clipping
[12:32] <k1l> benedikt: can we stick to real technical support issues in here? thanks. we have #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for the other topics
[12:32] <Ben64> atodex: maybe you should come back when you're not tired
[12:33] <benedikt> k1l: i'm not the one discussing. i'm asking a technical question but i get discussions and off-topic replies.
[12:33] <atodex> I have to make my sound work eventually, it's just that I don't understand the ALSA, pulseaudio
[12:33] <ejv> benedikt: the other (common) flavors of the ubuntu family are (of course) xubuntu, kubuntu, and lubuntu. if you feel that ubuntu has some shortcomings, you're welcome to use an alternative or fork Ubuntu (good luck) and mold it to your likings.
[12:33] <nearst> what technical question?
[12:33] <benedikt> atodex: pulseaudio is a userspace application that talks to ALSA. It sits on top of ALSA, there is a pretty good graphic in the wikipedia article about pulseaudio that explains the big picture
[12:34] <Myrtti> benedikt: feel free to use xubuntu, lubuntu or kubuntu, or install gnome-shell on top of the minimal install.
[12:34] <k1l> benedikt: dont play that card. you know what questions you were asking.  since the lense searches are part of unity just dont use unity if you dont want that.
[12:34] <benedikt> Myrtti: ejv: do they have the same privacy issues as the stock ubuntu version?
[12:34] <atodex> so, I have to have ALSA and pulseaudio together, then?
[12:34] <Ben64> atodex: no
[12:34] <benedikt> atodex: no, but thats how ubuntu does it
[12:35] <benedikt> k1l: i know what i asked, hence why i defended it. something is hould not need to do.
[12:35] <k1l> benedikt: you got your answers. so we can drop that polaraizing sidetalks about that.
[12:35] <ejv> benedikt: it's rather clear no answer will satisfy you, please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss; thank you very much.
[12:36] <benedikt> ejv: geez. it's a yes/no question.
[12:36] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[12:36] <newbie-13thDay> hey i'm using irssi and want it to beep when my nick is mentioned ! i followed the "/help" and typed ' /set bell_beeps ON '  but still don't work
[12:36] <benedikt> k1l: no, i have the same amount of knowledge as when i came in.
[12:36] <ikonia> benedikt: please define privacy issues
[12:36] <ikonia> benedikt: the amazon lense or more
[12:36] <Myrtti> benedikt: xubuntu doesn't have anything like adlens, neither does kubuntu. I'm pretty certain gnome-shell doesn't have anything like it either, even less lubuntu.
[12:37] <crizis> disabling it is one click in 'Privacy' panel ....
[12:37] <benedikt> ikonia: lsense issues.
[12:37] <benedikt> Myrtti: Thank you!
[12:37] <ikonia> benedikt: ok - so all the techologies Myrtti don't have it, but you can also diable it in the default ubuntu
[12:37] <verysoftoiletppr> I'm trying to install fail2ban with apt-get but I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5584995/
[12:37] <benedikt> k1l: ejv: ikonia: thats the answer to the question i asked.
[12:38] <ikonia> benedikt: I gave you that answer but you said you didn't trust ubuntu, which is wy I said there was no point progressing it
[12:38] <ejv> exactly. ikonia++
[12:38] <benedikt> ikonia: no, your answer was "use another distro"
[12:38] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: missing directory
[12:38] <ikonia> benedikt: no not initially
[12:38] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, try sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[12:38] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia I can read, however I don't understand the meaning
[12:39] <ejv> i prefer not to ask users' opinions of the operating system, this channel is for support, not for commentary on what people "think" they know about the environment.
[12:39] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: good luck with your troubleshooting then, thanks for the smart response
[12:39] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 124 not upgraded.
[12:39] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia sorry
[12:39] <benedikt> ikonia: your initial response was "ubuntu is fine for that" (not answering the question) and the second was "use another distro". I'm not here to teach you how to behave in a support/help channel, so i will leave it at suggesting you to lurk #debian to see how things are done there.
[12:40] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, try go to /var/cache/apt/
[12:40] <crizis> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/de48666487237d7e9a2155857cc8d21b and get over it...
[12:40] <frey> Hi. I need to create a custom Ubuntu Live CD. Which tool do you recommend?
[12:40] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst archives/  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[12:40] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, cd archives/
[12:41] <ikonia> crizis: please don't post that sort of thing.
[12:41] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst I'm in
[12:41] <nearst> frey, try uck ?
[12:41] <crizis> ikonia: why? simple answer to this _silly_ shopping lens drama
[12:41] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, ls -al
[12:41] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst there is fail2ban_0.8.6-3_all.deb
[12:41] <frey> nearst: No. :)
[12:42] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585004/
[12:42] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, ok. for safe installation. try apt-get install gdebi then gdebi <fail2ban>
[12:43] <Eagleman> I am using this rule to connect to to my windows 2008 guest with RDP:  -A PREROUTING -i eth0.10 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.100.2:3389. This rule is added on an ubuntu guest os which is in the 192.168.100.0 network and i am able to ping the server from the ubuntu guest at 192.168.100.2, however when trying to connect to example.com:4000 i am unable to get a connection, any idea what i did wrong?
[12:43] <jony> my USB stick wont mount in Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit desktop, why?
[12:44] <alex88> Eagleman: trying to connect to example.com:4000 from where? what's the expected behavior?
[12:44] <phunyguy> jony, some details would help.
[12:44] <ejv> jony: patebin your dmesg, we're not mind-readers.
[12:44] <ejv> s/patebin/pastebin/
[12:45] <Eagleman> alex88: I am currently remote, it should connect to the windows 2008 server using rdp
[12:45] <jony> details? please give me an ex.
[12:45] <alex88> sure, but on port 3389 not 4000
[12:45] <phunyguy> jony, ejv just did
[12:46] <Eagleman> alex88: port 4000 on example.com is forwarded to 192.168.100.2:3389, 3389 is the port where rdp is running on
[12:46] <jony> what is patebin dmesg?
[12:46] <ejv> jony: patebin is a typo for pastebin
[12:46] <ejv> !pastebin | jony
[12:46] <phunyguy> jony, paste the contents of the "dmesg" command in a terminal.
[12:46] <alex88> oh sure... mmhh... have you tried to run a dump on windows subnet? to check if packets goes to the windows machine?
[12:46] <tekk> another question
[12:47] <tekk> can virtual box work with a raw .img file as hard disk?
[12:47] <phunyguy> !dmesg | jony
[12:47] <tekk> or must it be in qcow or vdi format ?
[12:47] <ejv> oooo didn't know about that one phunyguy ;)
[12:47] <jony> what message to paste?
[12:47] <jony> ok, got it
[12:48] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst it seems I can't install that either. To give you a bit more of context, the server is running all the time and it never broke until yesterday. Today I had to restart the server, because it was non responsive, and now I have this problem.
[12:48] <Eagleman> alex88: let me get back on that
[12:48] <BenyaminL> hmm..
[12:48] <BenyaminL> Hello
[12:48] <tekk> sorry wrong chan
[12:48]  * BenyaminL said hello
[12:48] <alex88> Eagleman: good
[12:49] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, try do dist-upgrade
[12:49] <phunyguy> !ot | BenyaminL
[12:49] <jony> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585016/
[12:49] <BenyaminL> hei, i need help for my ubuntu precise
[12:49] <BenyaminL> my laptop always overheat
[12:50] <BenyaminL> Anyone can help me?
[12:50] <BenyaminL> I never face overheat on windows
[12:50] <BenyaminL> I use dual boot
[12:50] <phunyguy> !enter | BenyaminL
[12:50] <phunyguy> thanks jony, looking at it now.
[12:50] <nearst> i never face overheat
[12:51] <ejv> jony: well done; now as you can see toward the bottom of that file, your Corsair USB stick is clearly being identified, and marked as /dev/sdb1. Example of how to proceed: mkdir /media/usbkey; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbkey; Enjoy.
[12:51] <phunyguy> ejv, maybe gvfs isn't working for him
[12:51] <daveetheridge> BenyaminL, what graphics card do you have in your laptop?
[12:51] <phunyguy> or there isn't a recognized filesystem on the device
[12:51] <BenyaminL> please, anyone can help me, i have problem with my laptop using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it always overheating, i hope anyone can help me, thx allot
[12:51] <kps219> hi anybody familiar with qpmstpd i am trying to integrate it with postfix
[12:51] <BenyaminL> NVidia GForce 1GB
[12:51] <phunyguy> !patience BenyaminL
[12:52] <varunendra> BenyaminL, try 'top' command to see if a process is overusing your cpu
[12:52] <phunyguy> !patience | BenyaminL
[12:52] <ejv> i have the world's smallest violin for anything GVFS related
[12:52] <BenyaminL> I'm use asus A43S
[12:52] <phunyguy> ejv, that's fine, but it still should work.
[12:52] <ejv> :)
[12:53] <kps219> anybody ?
[12:53] <Eagleman> alex88: I used to be able to connect to my samba server on 192.168.100.1 on my 192.168.100.2 machine, but this isnt possible anymore. I think this is related to my current issue
[12:53] <phunyguy> !anyone | kps219
[12:53] <alex88> Eagleman: could be, checked packet forwarding? does it works?
[12:53] <phunyguy> also see !patience
[12:54] <BenyaminL> !poll
[12:54] <Eagleman> alex88: nevermind i connected to the wrong ip the 192.168.100.10 and 192.168.100.2 machine are able to connect to each other using samba
[12:54] <BenyaminL> !patience
[12:54] <phunyguy> BenyaminL: that's enough now.  :)
[12:55] <jony> ejv, I moust in this way every usb stick from now on? :(
[12:55] <phunyguy> BenyaminL: you can /msg ubottu if you want to test
[12:55] <jony> must
[12:55] <varunendra> BenyaminL, did you try the 'top' command ?
[12:55] <ejv> jony: did it work?
[12:56] <BenyaminL> top?
[12:56] <phunyguy> BenyaminL: run it in a terminal
[12:56] <varunendra> BenyaminL, can you open a terminal ?
[12:57] <BenyaminL> ok
[12:57] <BenyaminL> I'll
[12:57] <jony> ejv, it wount mount, it shows the following: mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:58] <phunyguy> jony, is this by any chance an encrypted USB device?
[12:58] <jony> no, in windows works very well
[12:59] <phunyguy> jony that doesn't mean it isn't encrypted.
[12:59] <phunyguy> is it formatted NTFS?
[12:59] <BenyaminL> It shown a list of runing apps? And then? What suppose i do?
[12:59] <ejv> an entry in fstab is not necessary to mount the device
[12:59] <minas> to "show desktop", I have to press CTRL-ALT-D twice. Is this a bug?
[12:59] <varunendra> which app is on top ?
[13:00] <daveetheridge> BenyaminL, Use '>' key to scroll across the columns until the CPU with the highest usage is at the top
[13:00] <BenyaminL> Compiz
[13:00] <phunyguy> jony please type "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" without the quotes in a terminal
[13:00] <varunendra> BenyaminL, what % of cpu it is using ?
[13:00] <phunyguy> then try again to plug in your USB device
[13:01] <BenyaminL> which? I have 8 here
[13:01] <BenyaminL> I don't know, ==
[13:01] <jony> phunyguy, it's fat32
[13:01] <BenyaminL> I'm chat directly from my smartphone, i can't chat one by one.
[13:01] <varunendra> BenyaminL, the number below CPU %
[13:01] <phunyguy> ok brb
[13:02] <ejv> jony: pastebin:  fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[13:02] <phunyguy> someone else take over, I have to go afk for a bit
[13:02] <ejv> sure, bye bye phunyguy
[13:03] <Red-Wrk> Hello - i have a problem with KVM and ubuntu... host server has ipv6 connectivty with /64 network.. i installed some ubuntu guests via KVM/libvirt and also ubuntu.. they get ipv6 from radvd from host but cant connect to internet or ping.. only connecting to host works
[13:03] <jony> ejv, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585029/
[13:04] <IzzoDizzo> jony mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb or something should work
[13:04] <IzzoDizzo> provided /mnt/usb exists
[13:04] <BenyaminL> top - 20:02:37 up 4 min, 2 users, load average : 0.35, 0.39; 0.19
[13:05] <ejv> jony: great, so /dev/sdb1 exists, that's good. Now, what does it say when you try to: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbkey
[13:05] <IzzoDizzo> ghah, why can't i get my nvidia drivers to work on my macbook pro :X i'm forced to use another distro
[13:05] <heraclitis> anyone ever use the extfsd for windows?
[13:06] <ejv> !anyone | heraclitis
[13:06] <varunendra> BenyaminL, there should be a line highlighted in white. Look for "CPU" in it and post the number below it
[13:07] <BenyaminL> ooo, 3, 2.6
[13:07] <BenyaminL> Only that
[13:07] <IzzoDizzo> openoffice
[13:07] <IzzoDizzo> heh
[13:07] <varunendra> hmm.. not too much
[13:07] <heraclitis> !gq
[13:07] <jony> ejv, it mounted!
[13:07] <varunendra> BenyaminL, Is the cpu fan running properly ?
[13:08] <jony> ejv, but in the future only with this command can I mount the USB sticks?
[13:08] <BenyaminL> yep
[13:08] <Eagleman> alex88: packets are incoming
[13:08] <alex88> Eagleman: on which interface?
[13:08] <alex88> and are going out to windows server?
[13:09] <varunendra> BenyaminL, what is output of uname -mr ?
[13:09] <ejv> jony: good! you should file a bug report on GVFS Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs
[13:09] <jony> ejv, it mounted but only in read-only mode :(
[13:10] <minas> varunendra, was "which app is on top?" for me?
[13:11] <Lynxx> i have an issue, i'm on ubuntu 12.10 using the KDE desktop environment, it has worked perfect til today, About an hour ago the clock shows a wrong time, going to adjust time shows that the correct time is being displayed there. I tried restarting etc., but its still messed up. What can i do
[13:11] <Lynxx> ?
[13:11] <varunendra> minas, wut do u mean ?
[13:12] <ejv> jony: sudo umount /media/usbkey; sudo mount -w /dev/sdb1 /media/usbkey
[13:12] <minas> varunendra, I asked something above and you replied afterwards with a question. Was the question for me to answer?
[13:12] <Lynxx> like right now its 7:12 am but it shows 1:12 pm
[13:12] <Lynxx> if i adjust the clock up an hour it shows 2:12pm
[13:12] <Lynxx> and so fourth.. what the heck
[13:12] <ejv> jony: if that doesn't work, something else might be wrong; I can't really troubleshoot FAT issues, never use it.
[13:12] <ubilli> please i am having problem with my wireless on a ralink 5390 can anyone help me please
[13:12] <IzzoDizzo> Lynxx: is the correct timezone active?
[13:13] <varunendra> for BenyaminL, lol
[13:13] <Lynxx> yes
[13:13] <Lynxx> even shows the normal time on the login screen
[13:13] <sharperguy> Does anyone here know about networking? I'm trying to send UDP packets over a point-to-point ethernet connection (link-local in networkmanager), but even when I bind the socket to the address of eth0 and says it sent successfully, I see nothing on wireshark. Also when I disconnect the wifi connection, even though I'm trying to send with eth0 which is connected, it now says network unreachable.
[13:13] <Lynxx> its just the display on the launcher is wrong
[13:14] <minas> Lynxx, is the time set to "automatically from the internet"?
[13:14] <Lynxx> yes
[13:14] <Lynxx> wel no
[13:14] <sukima> Is it possible to setup a boot loader menu that lets you pick from using the nvidia drivers to the ATI drivers and visa-versa? I have a system on an external drive which I would like to have 3D support but this drive often will swap from two computers with different graphics cards.
[13:14] <Lynxx> but i did select that
[13:14] <minas> Lynxx, and?
[13:14] <minas> any changes?
[13:14] <ubilli> please can anyone in the room help me with my wireless network..
[13:14] <Lynxx> the time within the time settings dialogue shows correct time
[13:15] <Lynxx> so even checking that, the time on the launcher stayed the same
[13:15] <IzzoDizzo> what does a date from a terminal look like
[13:15] <Lynxx> ok now i tried again and it says "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6, "
[13:15] <Loki_> Good morning.. I am trying install a fglrx from xorg edgers, but it does not works. I got some errors.. I will post here!!
[13:15] <Loki_> !pastebin
[13:16] <ubilli> please i am using a compaq presario cq57  the wireless is a ralink 5390 driver cad please i need help.
[13:16] <IzzoDizzo> ubuili, what is the problem
[13:17] <IzzoDizzo> ubilli even :)
[13:17] <Loki_> Please.. Can anybody have a look and help me?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585054/
[13:17] <Lynxx> i ficed it
[13:17] <Lynxx> it's a bug
[13:17] <Lynxx> fixed*
[13:18] <ubilli> please i am having a problem with my wireless it is telling me it is disconnected...
[13:18] <Lynxx> i fixed it by setting it to show time zone... which corrected it .. then unchecked the show time zone
[13:18] <Ben64> Loki_: we can't support stuff from PPA
[13:18] <Lynxx> its restored to correct time now.. wow that was so annoyin
[13:19] <ubilli> the Eternet port is working but the wireless is not working what can i do....
[13:19] <panorain> I got the ralink rt2561 wireless in slitaz 4 with psk
[13:19] <panorain> finally
[13:19] <Loki_> I am lost now.. What can I do?? Reinstall my system, I suppose..
[13:20] <Loki_> rats..
[13:20] <varunendra> ubilli, what is the output of
[13:20] <varunendra> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[13:21] <Ben64> !patience | ubilli
[13:21] <ubilli> am coming please  varunendra
[13:23] <Loki_> Ben64: Exist the possibility of I delete manually all damage thing.. In the paths, for example..
[13:23] <panorain> I am going to bed
[13:23] <verysoftoiletppr> I've accidentally deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info/ how can I fix it?
[13:24] <IzzoDizzo> loki, have to you tried to apt-get autoremove fglrx --purge ?
[13:25] <Loki_> IzzoDizzo: yes... Does not works.. The situation here is very critical.
[13:25] <IzzoDizzo> like, see private msg
[13:25] <IzzoDizzo> loki_
[13:28] <asdfff> Hey, ive been trying to fix the loud fan on my laptop when running ubuntu ive just installed the ati drivers but im getting a blank screen now
[13:30] <ubilli> varunendra  it  says 06:00.0 Ehernet controller [0200]: realtek semiconductor co.,ltd.RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI express fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136](rev 05)
[13:31] <varunendra> ubilli, nothing about wireless (a second output ??)
[13:32] <ubilli> am coming please am not a fast typist please....
[13:32] <nameless`> ubilli: is it a wpa network ?
[13:33] <varunendra> ubilli, no probs :) I'm not very fast either
[13:34] <nyuszika7h> hi, what is the proper way to upgrade to raring?
[13:34] <gk258> Hello Everyone!
[13:34] <red_> ciao a tutti
[13:34] <red_> 	Magic|DvDRip|002
[13:34] <phunyguy> ahem...
[13:35] <minas> gk258, Hello!
[13:35] <phunyguy> nyuszika7h: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[13:35] <nyuszika7h> ok
[13:35] <ubilli> ubilli@ubilli-pc:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net 06:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 05) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:3577] 	Kernel driver in use: r8169 -- 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:5390] 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company U98Z077.00 Half-size Mini PCIe
[13:36] <nameless`> ubilli: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ next time you have to share an output
[13:36] <ubilli> this is what it said in the terminal varunendra....
[13:36] <Eagleman> alex88: on the interface in the windows 2008 server, the only interface: 192.168.100.2
[13:36] <varunendra> k.. wait a moment.. ubilli
[13:36] <nameless`> ubilli: is it a wpa network ?
[13:36] <ubilli> k thanks nameless...
[13:37] <ubilli> nameless   please how can i check for that..
[13:38] <ubilli> i am waiting varunendra...
[13:38] <nameless`> ubilli: you said that you were disconnected. So i assume that you were connected at some point
[13:39] <varunendra> ubilli, your ethernet interface already has the correct driver, so it should be able to connect
[13:39] <varunendra> for wireless, try -
[13:39] <varunendra> sudo modprobe -v rt2800pci nohwcrypt=y
[13:40] <varunendra> ubilli,
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:40] <ubilli> but it is not working i am actually using another laptop to talk to u gues <nameless>
[13:41] <varunendra> did you try the modprobe command ? ubilli
[13:42] <ubilli> please varunendra should i input the command into the terminal..... the one with the Xas
[13:42] <gk258> What's runlevel 2? (Mint 14)
[13:43] <DJones> !mint | gk258
[13:43] <varunendra> yes, ubilli
[13:43] <paperplane> Please help: `locale-gen`:   ko_KR.UTF-8... hash collision (1701936715) ko_KR.utf8, es_CO.utf8 failed
[13:43] <gk258> oh sorry! I didnt know
[13:45] <Eagleman> alex88: http://imagebin.org/248911
[13:45] <zloifei> hello. Need some advice about.. How REC video+audio from microphone? What utilities for this?
[13:45] <zloifei> screencast
[13:46] <DJones> !screencast | zloifei
[13:46] <red_> !list
[13:46] <zloifei> ubottu, thnks!
[13:50] <ubilli> ubilli@ubilli-pc:~$ modprobe Usage: modprobe [-v] [-V] [-C config-file] [-d <dirname> ] [-n] [-i] [-q] [-b] [-o <modname>] [ --dump-modversions ] <modname> [parameters...] modprobe -r [-n] [-i] [-v] <modulename> ... modprobe -l -t <dirname> [ -a <modulename> ...]
[13:50] <varunendra> ubilli, sudo modprobe -v rt2800pci nohwcrypt=y
[13:51] <ubilli> this is what the mode probe comman is saying varunendra
[13:51] <ubilli> k let me try dis one you just said...
[13:53] <ubilli> ...
[13:55] <ubilli> ubilli@ubilli-pc:~$ sudo modprobe -v rt2800pci nohwcrypt=y [sudo] password for ubilli:  ubilli@ubilli-pc:~$ ^C
[13:55] <ensi> hello, is there any way to drop into terminal in the ubuntu login screen?
[13:55] <sox> Bot Nick:	Magic|DvDRip|002
[13:55] <sox> Channel:	#magic
[13:55] <sox> Network:	OpenJoke
[13:55] <ensi> as soon as i log in compiz crashes and i cant use the system
[13:56] <thmz> ensi: Ctrl+Alt+F2 or F1
[13:56] <ubilli> that is wat it is saying  varunendra
[13:56] <m1dlg> I've tried on my own with minimal help, but I give up, I am still failing with my Nvidia card and nothing I do works. It's a 32bit 12.10 install, and the card is a 8600 GT 512Mb PCI-e. I have a fairly fresh install, and I appear to have no drivers at all after using the installer for propritory drivers did it's deed and rebooted. I can either boot the live disk or the rescue shell (and there now), thats as much as Ive been able 2do. an
[13:56] <ensi> thmz: doesnt work, the host will grab that
[13:56] <ensi> im in virtualbox
[13:56] <m1dlg> So much for trying to teach myself :(
[13:57] <ensi> mdiers_: did you install the nvidia proprietary package?
[13:57] <ensi> nvidia has quite good installer + instructions
[13:57] <BluesKaj> m1dlg, open a terminal and run l, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then reboot
[13:57] <varunendra> ubilli, so is the wireless network up now ?
[13:57] <artrei> ensi, have you tried change the host key?
[13:57] <ubilli> no varunendra
[13:58] <ensi> artrei: elaborate
[13:58] <varunendra> it looks like you cancelled the command with ^C, ubilli
[13:58] <ensi> artrei: you mean change virtual tty keys for something else in the host
[13:58] <artrei> ensi,in my virtualbox my host key is rightCTRL
[13:58] <m1dlg> artrei, i though I had using the driver tool that popped up on the desk top, but it appears it just killed the basic ones already there then screwed up.
[13:58] <ensi> artrei: same here
[13:59] <ubilli> should i try it again..
[13:59] <varunendra> ubilli, you had to enter your password that you use to login. It won't show up while typing, just type correctly and press Enter.
[13:59] <m1dlg> bluekaj, trying that now (sounds familier)
[14:00] <varunendra> ubilli, see my private message
[14:00] <BluesKaj> m1dlg, it should work on the 8600
[14:01] <m1dlg> ensi, i cant reply to private messages on this platform
[14:01] <m1dlg> bluekaj, I get the same lock error I had earlier
[14:01] <jbobaj> I'm trying to use a laptop running 12.04 as a wireless router. All three of the wireless adapters I've tried have refused to set their modes when I try to do so with iwconfig mode (master|adhoc). I think I'm missing something?
[14:01] <ubilli> ok..
[14:02] <m1dlg> bluekaj, ben64 said mount -o remount,rw /dev/null / earlier so Im going to try that
[14:04] <m1dlg> I get broken packages errors
[14:05] <BluesKaj> m1dlg, have you updated/upgraded at all ?
[14:06] <m1dlg> I have no idea what I've done now, I've tried several different things but everything has some sort of error
[14:06] <ensi> m1dlg: sounds like fun :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> what was tyhe remount for ?
[14:07] <buffymcmuffy>  running 13.04. every now and again it hangs (I suspect compiz) forcing me to power down and restart. Is there a log somewhere that would help track the problem down?
[14:08] <alex88> Eagleman: those have nothing to do with rdp right?
[14:08] <alex88> sorry was at lunch
[14:08] <m1dlg> I had an error telling me I had a locked file and that error went away with that line
[14:08] <Eagleman> alex88: yes they do, its filtered on port 3387 ( rdp )
[14:08] <Eagleman> alex88: It looks like the server cant reach that other ip adress becuase its in a isolated network
[14:09] <sox> Bot Nick:	Magic|DvDRip|002
[14:09] <sox> Channel:	#magic
[14:09] <sox> Network:	OpenJoke
[14:09] <alex88> Eagleman: from ubuntu you can't rdp?
[14:09] <igungor> hey
[14:09] <Eagleman> alex88: no from another external location
[14:10] <g0tcha> hey guys, 'add-apt-repository' is to add a PPA to the repositories, whats the command to remove a PPA?
[14:10] <igungor> is there anyone use imac24 and ubuntu 12.04lts and can hear a sound via headphone?
[14:10] <k1l> g0tcha: ppa-purge
[14:10] <Eagleman> alex88: have you seen this?  http://imagebin.org/248911
[14:10] <igungor> i've tried several macbook models for snd-hda-intel but none of them seem to work
[14:10] <igungor> no sound when i plug the headphone
[14:11] <BluesKaj> m1dlg, sudo dpkg --configutre -a , it might clear broken packages , then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:11] <alex88> Eagleman: yeah..so isn't it working?
[14:11] <Eagleman> alex88: no, becuase its not able to connect to the 217.*.*.* address
[14:12] <alex88> oh the response you mean?
[14:12] <Eagleman> it cant respond
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I have to leave , BBL
[14:12] <m1dlg> bluekaj, thanks for trying
[14:12] <alex88> Eagleman: ok.. maybe you need to snat too
[14:12] <alex88> and set the source ip to the ubuntu server
[14:13] <Eagleman> yeh that should work
[14:15] <Eagleman> alex88: any idea how this can be changed to snat?  -A PREROUTING -i eth0.10 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.100.2:3389
[14:16] <alex88> Eagleman: -A POSTROUTING -i eth0.10 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3389 -J SNAT --from-source...etc maybe
[14:16] <alex88> but give me a second
[14:17] <alex88> -j SNAT --to-source (windows subnet ubuntu's ip)
[14:18] <alen_> hi
[14:19] <g0tcha> k1l, that didnt work
[14:20] <Eagleman> alex88: like this?  -A PREROUTING -i eth0.10 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.100.2:3389 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.100.10
[14:20] <alex88> Eagleman: nope
[14:20] <alex88> it's another route
[14:20] <Eagleman> the source should be 192.168.100.10
[14:20] <alex88> -A POSTROUTING -i eth0.10 -J SNAT --to-source 192.168.100.10
[14:20] <alex88> try that
[14:21] <nearst> hi ppl
[14:21] <DJJeff> im notice that jdb2 is write to disk every 3-5 seconds
[14:21] <DJJeff> is there a way to have it speed up
[14:21] <Eagleman> alex88: wont that change everything incoming from the eth0.10 interface and rewrite the source to 100.10 ?
[14:21] <DJJeff> so it gets done faster
[14:22] <alex88> yup
[14:22] <alex88> Eagleman: oh true
[14:22] <alex88> Eagleman: also use
[14:22] <Eagleman> alex88: then everything else will stop working
[14:22] <alex88> mmhh
[14:22] <alex88> use -o windows_net_interface
[14:22] <alex88> and set that to the interface that's using for the windows subnet
[14:24] <patrunjel> Hi, could anyone please recommend a tool for breaking up a large .tar.bz file into multiple files of a given size?
[14:24] <Eagleman> alex88: hold on this is getting confusing, the hypervisor is kvm on archlinux, this can be avoided. everything on port 4000 needs another source ip address
[14:25] <alex88> yup
[14:25] <alex88> well, everything coming from eth0.10 and going to windows bix
[14:25] <alex88> *box
[14:25] <alex88> needs to be snatted
[14:26] <Eagleman> alex88: so i will need this to forward port 4000 to port 3389, this id done with this, -A PREROUTING -i eth0.10 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.100.2:3389   and then i need a snat rule
[14:26] <Eagleman> -o windows_net_interface  there isnt a real interface which goes to only the windows machine
[14:27] <Eagleman> alex88: so it would become:  -A POSTROUTING -i eth0.10 -o eth1 -J SNAT --to-source 192.168.100.10
[14:28] <Eagleman> eth1 is on 192.168.100.10
[14:28] <alex88> Eagleman: yeah, maybe filter by port
[14:28] <alex88> too
[14:28] <krux> patrunjel, http://trulymanaged.com/blog/how-to-split-a-large-files-to-multiple-parts-using-tar/ check that out see if it works
[14:28] <Eagleman> -A POSTROUTING -i eth0.10 -o eth1 -J SNAT --to-source 192.168.100.10 --dport 3389
[14:28] <patrunjel> krux, thanks
[14:29] <alex88> Eagleman: I think dport should be set before -J
[14:29] <Eagleman> lets see if it works
[14:30] <patrunjel> krux, the website doesn't load, but I'll dig into tar some more and see if I figure out a way to use it for the job
[14:31] <smartracer> how to get spread in unity
[14:31] <krux> yeah it took a minute but it loaded.. check this link then see if this works seems a little different
[14:31] <krux> patrunjel, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1120095/split-files-using-tar-gz-zip-or-bzip2
[14:32] <patrunjel> krux, that was exactly what I was reading now, lol :D I'll use split :D
[14:32] <krux> sweet :)
[14:32] <smartracer> how to get spread option in unity
[14:32] <alex88> Eagleman: good luck
[14:33] <smartracer> how to get spread option in unity?
[14:33] <ankur> hey, i had just install ubuntu studio 12.04 and the brightness of the screen is too high and when i am trying to reduce it with function key it shows that the brightness bar is reducing but it doesnt effecting the brightness....my screen's brightness is still too high .........hellllppp
[14:34] <spason> Is this where I can find ubuntu help?  I have a simple question, it is driving me insane.
[14:34] <ikonia> spason: you're in the right place
[14:35] <spason> So, I have a Powerbook g4 with the powerpc architecture
[14:35] <ankur> hey
[14:35] <spason> ubuntu 10.04 install disk
[14:35] <phunyguy> !enter | spason
[14:35] <ankur> can any one help me!!!!!
[14:35] <ikonia> ankur: need to ask a question for us to know that
[14:35] <phunyguy> ankur: we can't help unless you ask your question.
[14:36] <ankur> i asked my question above
[14:36] <ankur> wait i will paste my question again
[14:36] <spason> thank you, sorry.  So, ubuntu 10.04 on a powerpc Powerbook G4.  Can boot from CD, but when I try to install onto the hard drive, it stalls during "copying files" portion, always at exactly 67%.  Any idea why?
[14:36] <phunyguy> then see !patience, ankur
[14:36] <phunyguy> !patience
[14:36] <ikonia> spason: if it's always that % - it may be a faulty disk
[14:36] <ankur> hey, i had just install ubuntu studio 12.04 and the brightness of the screen is too high and when i am trying to reduce it with function key it shows that the brightness bar is reducing but it doesnt effecting the brightness....my screen's brightness is still too high .........hellllppp
[14:37] <spason> ikonia: is there a way to just use the not faulty part?  :)
[14:37] <ankur> phunyguy???
[14:37] <ikonia> spason: not really
[14:37] <ikonia> spason: (assuming it is a faulty cd)
[14:37] <spason> oh, the cd, not the hard drive?
[14:37] <phunyguy> spason, have you checked the ISO for integrity after you downloaded it?
[14:37] <spason> I feel like it is a partition problem, but i am a noob and don't know how to fix that.
[14:38] <ikonia> spason: why do you feel that ?
[14:38] <ikonia> spason: explain your gut feeling, you may be right
[14:38] <spason> because the boot partition is little
[14:38] <ikonia> spason: how big
[14:38] <phunyguy> ankur: I am sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.
[14:39] <spason> I am going to frighten you with my ignorance, but i think 32k, then there were 2  1mb partitions, then a big one, like 70 gb
[14:39] <ankur> k...thnks dude
[14:39] <ikonia> spason: when you say your boot partition do you mean /boot or /
[14:39] <ankur> i wish it will automatically resolve after my update completes
[14:40] <spason> its all very overwhelming for me.  I was hoping to just throw a disc in there and start using linux  :)
[14:40] <ikonia> spason: that's very possibly, but you've picked a more complex setup, so lets see if we can find your problem
[14:40] <spason> Hang on, I am not prepared for class...going to get the computer.
[14:41] <spason> Well, I am not wed to that setup.  I just want something simple to learn on...
[14:41] <spason> Are there simpler ways to get started with linux?
[14:41] <spason> and i'm not trying to dual boot, just linux on  80gb hd ppc g4
[14:41] <phunyguy> spason: a powerpc setup probably isn't the easiest to start on.
[14:41] <snodo> spason: linux magazines
[14:41] <ikonia> spason: the mac platform isn't the best introduction
[14:41] <spason> phun- i know, but that's what i've got.
[14:41] <usc911> Hey guys, just trying to update my server and have encountered this error http://goo.gl/d8M08 Im pretty dubious about which disk to install to as I cant really have the server go down. Anyone know how I could possibly fix this? thanks in advance
[14:42] <spason> i have a pentium 4 dell that i am trying at the same time
[14:42] <ikonia> spason: it's still fine
[14:42] <Eagleman> alex88: iptables v1.4.12: unknown option "-J"
[14:42] <ikonia> spason: it can still be done, you just need a little more attention to detail
[14:42] <alex88> Eagleman: full string?
[14:42] <spason> currently i am trying the same process on an ibook g4, so that will tell us if it is the CD i guess.
[14:42] <benlu> Will be Ubuntu for phone totally free software(opensource)?
[14:42] <Eagleman> -A POSTROUTING -i eth0.10 -o eth1 --dport 3389 -J SNAT --to-source 192.168.100.10
[14:42] <DJones> !phone | benlu
[14:42] <Eagleman> also --dport wasnt recognized
[14:43] <alex88> Eagleman: strange... no idea then
[14:43] <phunyguy> usc911: that depends on what disk you have in your bios boot order
[14:44] <phunyguy> usc911: the safe choice would be /dev/sda, and it won't take your server down to install grub.
[14:44] <phunyguy> usc911: are those 3TB disks??
[14:45] <usc911> yep
[14:45] <phunyguy> usc911: are they in a raid setup?
[14:45] <usc911> they are
[14:45] <phunyguy> hrmm...
[14:45] <usc911> on a remote server, so i dont have access to the bios
[14:45] <phunyguy> yeah I am going to defer on this one
[14:45] <phunyguy> I don't want to tell you the wrong thing  :(
[14:45] <usc911> no probs
[14:45] <usc911> im going to be very careful
[14:46] <tekk> hey guys, i did an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10… now my machine doesn't respond to ping… the only thing i can think of is that i was using a custom network driver via dims… maybe this isn't working after reboot?
[14:47] <_RooT_> remote machine?
[14:47] <_RooT_> uh
[14:47] <usc911> well a dedicated server in another country
[14:47] <IzzoDizzo> ouch
[14:47] <IzzoDizzo> and you dared to upgrade it? :)
[14:48] <usc911> not yet
[14:48] <usc911> :)
[14:48] <IzzoDizzo> ah i meant tekk :)
[14:48] <IzzoDizzo> but you too  :)
[14:49] <lantizia> Isn't there some command I can put before running something that'll make the program I'm running think it runs on 32-bit?
[14:49] <tekk> remote yea :a
[14:53] <snodo> how do i restart compiz
[14:53] <Eagleman> alex88: got it working:
[14:53] <Eagleman> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.100.2:3389
[14:53] <alex88> Eagleman: no snat?
[14:53] <AppleJuice> snodo, Something something like compiz --replace
[14:53] <Eagleman> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dport 3389 -d 192.168.100.2 -j SNAT --to 192.168.100.10
[14:53] <alex88> oh ok :D
[14:53] <Eagleman> That did the trick
[14:53] <alex88> well, yeah that's nice ;)
[14:53] <Eagleman> :)
[14:53] <alex88> yup
[14:55] <snodo> applejuice: thanks,
[14:56] <spason> ikonia: i think part of the problem is that any documentation for linux seems to start off friendly enough, but then forgets that we don't know anything!
[14:57] <spason> And I'm not ignorant of command line work etc, but i'm definitely not proficient at it, either.  Is there an easy way to understand the partition needs for ubuntu?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> spason, yes , only one large partition / and swap, (aka a page file in windows) , or a /, and,  /home and swap , those are the most popular options.
[15:01] <spason> blue: so the partitions that the disc makes are unnecessary?  I will try with just 1 partition, and a swap.  how big should the swap be?  and, does the yaboot go in the /home
[15:02] <nsahoo> hey, my ubuntu 12.04 new installation is freezing up. The top program shows ksoftirqd, watchdog, and sometimes kworker at the top with very high cpu usage. I can ssh into the machine, but, even when I issued sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop, nothing changed on the screen
[15:03] <BluesKaj> swap is usually 1.5 times RAM up to 8G or so then a slightly larger than equal size to your RAM , spason
[15:04] <spason> blue:  So everything can just go in /home,  and then the swap is just for linux to use?
[15:05] <artrei> spason: why not choose ubuntu to do partition automatically
[15:06] <spason> art: that is what i have been doing, but it isn't working
[15:06] <BluesKaj> spason, no you need a root partition , /  , a  /home is optional
[15:06] <spason> i'm ready to try a different distro.  any suggestions?  powerpc powerbook g4
[15:06] <BluesKaj> and swap of course
[15:06] <spason> i just want it to be easy!  i'm a noob
[15:07] <ikonia> spason: sorry, not ignoring you, just been away from desk
[15:07] <nsahoo> any help?
[15:07] <ikonia> nsahoo: you need to ask a question
[15:07] <nsahoo> new install of ubuntu 12.04 freezing
[15:08] <escott> nsahoo, probably a driver issue. check dmeg
[15:08] <escott> dmesg
[15:08] <ikonia> nsahoo: can you explain a little clearer
[15:08] <spason> `I THINK my ubuntu iso is defective.  stops at 67% on 2 different machines.
[15:08] <ikonia> spason: sounds good
[15:08] <ikonia> spason: good testing
[15:09] <spason> So should I just try and make another one?  or is there a better distro do you think?
[15:09] <ikonia> spason: that's a tough question, as the mac is the problem platform for most distros
[15:09] <ikonia> spason: I'd try a re-burn, and see how you get on
[15:09] <ikonia> spason: you can always move away if it's not what you want
[15:10] <spason> ok.  thanks for your help.  I am sure I will be back.
[15:10] <nsahoo> escott: just ran a reboot now, so cant' login, needed to do a hard reboot.
[15:10] <pratz> Hello guys
[15:10] <nsahoo> escott: not sure why ksoftirqd, watchdog, and sometimes kworker are using that much cpu, if it is indicating some hardware problem. Any thoughts?
[15:10] <pratz> I justed installed ubuntu 12.04 on my external hard disk ( with disconnecting my internal hard disk )
[15:11] <hjhjhjh> what software in ubuntu can be used to create animation or flash animation
[15:11] <pratz> when I try to boot to external hard disk (with internal hard disk connected ) it does not boot
[15:11] <pratz> but when i disconnect my internal hard disk it boots up
[15:12] <pratz> how can i boot to my external hard disk with internal hard disk connected ?
[15:12] <ikonia> pratz: normally select from the bios
[15:12] <jbobaj> pratz: that varies depending on your hardware. there will be some key you have to press before boot
[15:12] <pratz> ikonia: jbobaj yes its F12
[15:13] <pratz> ikonia: jbobaj i select usb-fdd/usb-hdd but it boots on internal hard disk os
[15:13] <hjhjhjh> what software in ubuntu can be used to create animation or flash animation
[15:13] <ikonia> pratz: then your external disk is non-bootable, so it's failing back to internal
[15:13] <ikonia> hjhjhjh: none-really, flash is propritary to adobe
[15:13] <pratz> ikonia: jbobaj i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on external HDD with disconnected internal HDD, does that matter ?
[15:13] <jbobaj> pratz: well, if you intend to do this a lot, you could issue an update-grub while the external hdd is plugged in
[15:13] <ikonia> pratz: not really
[15:13] <ghatu> hi all HD format .mts (sony) does not work properly in movie player it skips any solution
[15:14] <jbobaj> pratz: it will add an item to the bootloader menu for the external hdd
[15:14] <pratz> ikonia: jbobaj but when i disconnect internal hdd , I can boot from external hdd
[15:14] <m1dlg> I've battled this one since the last piece of advice and now have unmet dependancies...... Time for more caffine?
[15:15] <ikonia> pratz: sounds odd
[15:15] <jbobaj> pratz: it's probably something to do with your bios, can't help, sorry
[15:15] <pratz> jbobaj: :(
[15:15] <jbobaj> pratz: the actual command is [sudo update-grub2]
[15:16] <jbobaj> pratz: it's possible, I suppose, that the bootloader *on the external hdd* is misconfigured
[15:16] <Guest91955> So, I'm doing Linux homework and I need to do the compress command. . . There is no compress command. . . What do I do?
[15:16] <ikonia> Guest91955: gzip
[15:16] <m1dlg> xorg-video-abi-11 and xserver-sorg-core (>=2:1.10.9.901)
[15:16] <jbobaj> Guest91955: on the command line it's called [gz]
[15:16] <IzzoDizzo> tar ?
[15:16] <IzzoDizzo> zip ?
[15:16] <ikonia> Guest91955: compress is normally a symlink to gzip
[15:16] <hjhjhjh> any softare for creating animation ?
[15:16] <jbobaj> tar isn't compression per se
[15:16] <pratz> jbobaj: where should i run that command ?
[15:16] <lantizia> Hey, if you're on 12.04/12.10/13.04 and _didn't_ want to tell someone to press Alt+F2 ... how would you tell them to get to the same screen?
[15:17] <pratz> jbobaj: i mean being on external hdd or internal hdd ?
[15:17] <jbobaj> pratz: on your main installation while it's booted and the external hdd is plugged in
[15:17] <ikonia> lantizia: thats the key sequence you need
[15:17] <lantizia> ikonia, so you're telling me there is no way to bring that up using the GUI?
[15:18] <pratz> jbobaj: ok, consider all goes well, next time i do not have external hdd connected, what will happen then ?
[15:18] <Ziber> Anyone ever try google hangouts on ubuntu?
[15:18] <lantizia> Ziber, yeah they work fine
[15:18] <Guest86104> Does anyone know how to fix loud fans on my dell studio 1558?
[15:18] <Ziber> i'm having plugin trouble in chrome, i think
[15:18] <vorlket> can someone help me with "the attempt to mount a file system with type vfact in scsi1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed" error while installing ubuntu server?
[15:18] <lantizia> Ziber, chrome doesn't even need the plugin - probably chromium does though if you mean that?
[15:18] <pratz> jbobaj: ??
[15:19] <Ziber> lantizia: no, chrome. either way, they're not working... thoughts on trying to fix it?
[15:19] <escott> vorlket, its trying to mount the efi partition to /boot/efi
[15:19] <lantizia> Ziber, I've had no difficulties so no - does it just not think it is installed?
[15:19] <Ziber> "sorry we weren't able to resolve the issue"
[15:20] <Ziber> lantizia: possibly? how would i reinstall it just to check?
[15:20] <jbobaj> pratz: you'll get the bootloader menu same as usual, but if you try to boot from external hdd, it won't work
[15:20] <lantizia> Ziber, well if you have the .deb file it downloaded then just double click it again and the Ubuntu Software Center will give you an option to reinstall it
[15:21] <Ziber> lantizia: ah, good idea
[15:21] <vorlket> escott: ok, would booting from / resolve the issue? although insignificant would booting from the entire / slow down boot time?
[15:21] <escott> vorlket, no
[15:21] <escott> vorlket, if you are booting efi you should be able to mount the efi partition to /boot/efi
[15:22] <escott> vorlket, to not be able to do that indicates some kind of problem with your efi setup
[15:23] <Ziber> lantizia: reinstalling had no effect...
[15:23] <vorlket> escott: ok, what troubleshooting step do you recommend for me to take?
[15:23] <escott> vorlket, try and mount the efi partition and figure out what is going on, and why it cannot be mounted
[15:23] <lantizia> Ziber, I swear my chrome didn't even need it - maybe I had installed it months earlier though for firefox use though
[15:23] <vorlket> escott: ok
[15:24] <lantizia> Ziber, you could try a chrome update from their repository - otherwise I have no idea
[15:24] <whzhang> is this room for UDS?
[15:24] <Ziber> lantizia: hm, okay.
[15:24] <Ziber> how?
[15:24] <lantizia> Ziber, well if you installed Chrome from the Google web site (i.e. it downloaded a different .deb and it installed it) then you'll have the repository already enabled
[15:24] <lantizia> so just make sure your system is up to date
[15:25] <Ziber> lantizia: okay
[15:25] <whzhang> hello? anybody can tell me is this the room for UDS discussion?
[15:26] <compdoc> UDS?
[15:26] <Ziber> :/
[15:26] <lantizia> UDS = UDS Discussion System
[15:26] <padhu> how can i use .mdb  data in quantum gis 1.8 on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:26] <padhu> Is there an trick?
[15:27] <VlanX> anyone having any issue with drag and drop in nautilus with 12.10 ?
[15:27] <vorlket> escott: by the way would ahci get in the way?
[15:27] <escott> vorlket, doubt it
[15:27] <lantizia> Is there a channel for Unity discussion?
[15:27] <vorlket> escott: ok
[15:28] <lantizia> you know - where I can say how absolutely awful it is but slowly learn how to bare it?
[15:28] <naegling> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS
[15:29] <escott> vorlket, just check if /dev/sda1 is mounted, if it is umount it then try and mount it manually. if that fails check that it is properly partitioned and formated and check that it is not corrupted
[15:29] <vorlket> escott: ok
[15:30] <escott> padhu, doubt you will find anything that supports MS Access file formats
[15:30] <padhu> escott: what do you mean?
[15:31] <escott> padhu, mdb is the standard extension for ms access files
[15:31] <padhu> escott: i works in windows. But i need to handle that in ubuntu
[15:32] <IzzoDizzo> you;d have to export it
[15:32] <IzzoDizzo> to another format
[15:33] <lordcyfer> How to configure lighted to have multiple keyboard mapping available ??
[15:33] <kyan> hi! :D
[15:33] <kyan> does anyone knows about a daemontools for linux?
[15:34] <Ziber> lantizia: It mentions two plugins, how do I make sure I have both of them/
[15:34] <Ziber> *?
[15:34] <IzzoDizzo> kyan, you mean mount an iso?
[15:34] <lantizia> Ziber, two? there should only be one called google-talk
[15:34] <Ziber> lantizia: video acceleration and npapi?
[15:35] <kyan> no IzzoDizzo , i explain you: i'm tryin to install through DosBox an old retrogame, i've tryin' to run it from the cdrom but it lags. So i've tried to make an iso and mount it with mountiso but the game says that doesn't found the disc. So, how can i do?
[15:35] <lantizia> Ziber, are you *absolutely* positive you have Chrome and not Chromium?  (i.e. the icon is multicoloured and not shades of blue)
[15:36] <Ziber> lantizia: Yes, I am.
[15:36] <Ziber> lantizia: I know the difference.
[15:36] <lantizia> Ziber, Dunno then, I don't recall having to install either of those... in fact NPAPI is already in Chrome.
[15:36] <IzzoDizzo> kyan, never heard of anthing for that
[15:38] <kyan> IzzoDizzo, it's a strange problem. I'll try to install it through scummvm
[15:39] <Ziber> :/
[15:39] <alen> hey guys im thinking about buying an ibm thinkpad
[15:40] <alen> anyone got one ?
[15:40] <Ziber> alen: they're not very reliable.
[15:40] <Ziber> i've got an acer now and i think it's a much better computer.
[15:41] <overdub> you have to be joking, acer over thinkpad?? certainly not my experience
[15:41] <Ziber> No, I'm not at all.
[15:41] <lantizia> overdub, i second that
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ibm , isn't that lenovo ?
[15:42] <Ziber> To each his own. It's my dad that's had the ibm trouble, with two separate computers having major hardware issues.
[15:42] <lantizia> BluesKaj, the consumer hardware arm is yes
[15:42] <overdub> certainly just depends on your personal experience i suppose
[15:42] <overdub> my thinkpad was linux certified, which is why i bought it
[15:43] <BluesKaj> lantizia, my daughter is looking at a lenovo ...thought the build quality was superior to most and more linux friendly as well.
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> As with any hardware these days, it depends on the model.
[15:44] <lantizia> BluesKaj, I'm looking to them to make a really big tablet in the future (at least 14" widescreen) so it'll be good for viewing A4/Letter sized pages without zooming
[15:44] <jeevand> Dell now ships with ubuntu just have a look !!!
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> Some thinkpads are certified, some are incompatible.  Some are reliable, some aren't.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> sytem 76
[15:45] <BluesKaj> err system
[15:45] <lantizia> jeevand, old news... I have a laptop from Dell here that was bundled with Ubuntu that I bought over 8 years ago
[15:46] <lantizia> actually 5 years lol
[15:46] <jeevand> yes but they are shipping with ultrabooks not the old heavy ones
[15:46] <Anaphaxeton> is your 32bit mini.iso faulty? it doesnt create bootable dvds...
[15:46] <jeevand> with intel corei5 2nd generation processors
[15:46] <lantizia> o_O
[15:51] <Anaphaxeton> the ubuntu mini 32bit iso doesnt even boot with vbox
[15:52] <escott> !md5sum | Anaphaxeton
[15:52] <Anaphaxeton> my sum is ok
[15:52] <Anaphaxeton> my pc refuses to boot it. vbox as well
[15:52] <Anaphaxeton> what can i say...
[15:52] <Anaphaxeton> and it mounts fine
[15:53] <Anaphaxeton> all data is accessible
[15:53] <Anaphaxeton> it just doesnt boot
[15:53] <Anaphaxeton> fyi
[15:53] <Anaphaxeton> ubuntu has failed me so far in a zillion ways. this was its last chance
[15:53] <jhutchins_wk> Anaphaxeton: That sounds like a hardware problem with the BIOS.  Are you choosing it from a boot menu or have you set the boot order in the configuration?
[15:53] <Anaphaxeton> goodbye...
[15:54] <IzzoDizzo> ?.. lol
[15:54] <adamx> He mad
[15:54] <jhutchins_wk> Ah well.  His loss.
[15:54] <adamx> He's running in Vbox
[15:54] <adamx> First problem.
[15:54] <adamx> Second problem? He's a baby
[15:54] <vvvv> hmmmm
[15:54] <vvvv> hi
[15:54] <vvvv> all
[15:55] <Anaphaxeton> ok just because i am curious
[15:55] <Anaphaxeton> doesnt ubuntu boot from uefi?
[15:55] <adamx> ALARMING LEVELS OF MAD DETECTED
[15:55] <Anaphaxeton> the ubuntu iso i mean
[15:55] <adamx> UEFI in Vbox?
[15:55] <IzzoDizzo> what machine are you trying to run it on?
[15:55] <escott> Anaphaxeton, UEFI is a complicated beast there are going to be problems (a lot of firmware implementations are broken)
[15:56] <escott> Anaphaxeton, and NOBODY is doing UEFI 32bit so thats your first problem
[15:56] <vvvv> does anyone notice how when u click on something in the app launcher there is a delay? almost like u have to click it twice.....
[15:56] <escott> Anaphaxeton, your second is that you are trying vbox UEFI which i didnt think even worked
[15:56] <Anaphaxeton> escott,  UEFI 32bit
[15:56] <adamx> vbox is crap
[15:56] <Anaphaxeton> the answer should be that
[15:56] <Anaphaxeton> thank you
[15:56] <escott> Anaphaxeton, but if you have 64bit UEFI you cannot (without a special patch) boot a 32bit UEFI OS
[15:57] <Anaphaxeton> and i am using vbox+uefi and boot in like 6 sec
[15:57] <Anaphaxeton> anyhow
[15:57] <Anaphaxeton> escott, you sound to be perfectly right
[15:57] <Anaphaxeton> i hope the one i am burning this iso for will be satisfied
[15:57] <Anaphaxeton> 32bit, bios
[15:57] <escott> Anaphaxeton, your UEFI configuration is definitely not a common configuration so I would not be surprised if things dont work
[15:58] <Anaphaxeton> ok escott , i will take back what i said about ubuntu failing me. maybe this time all will run fine (not on my PCs..)
[15:59] <Anaphaxeton> bb
[15:59] <Anaphaxeton> and honest thanks escott
[16:00] <tero> why when I run ubuntu on my laptop the battery is depleted much more sooner then on windows 7?
[16:00] <IzzoDizzo> tero we'd need more specs to be able to answer that :)
[16:00] <escott> tero, usually because the graphics card runs a bit harder under linux. you can install and try powertop
[16:01] <vorlket> escott: it seems to be the formatting issue. /dev/sda1 is in fat32 which efi didn't like. how do i format it with the standard installer? thinking of getting around the issue by using desktop installer.
[16:02] <escott> vorlket, fat32 is how the efi partition is supposed to be formatted
[16:02] <vvvv> my ubuntu seems sluggish,
[16:02] <vvvv> how can i speed it up?
[16:02] <vorlket> escott: is it? okay. my guess is wrong then :)
[16:03] <IzzoDizzo> vvvv uh, new pc?
[16:04] <vvvv> nope
[16:04] <ikonia> vvvv: it's important you look at if it's actually slow doing things, or if it is just visually slow
[16:04] <vvvv> like when i click a program, it takes a while for it to open
[16:05] <ikonia> vvvv: what is the specification cpu/ram of your machine
[16:05] <escott> vvvv, that would indicate a lack of ram or a slow hard disk
[16:05] <vvvv> im on a ssd, with 4 gig ram
[16:05] <escott> vvvv, what does "free -m" output?
[16:05] <IzzoDizzo> is it swapping?
[16:05] <vvvv> intel core 2 duo 5750 at 2 ghz
[16:05] <escott> !paste | vvvv
[16:06] <vvvv> what do u mean by swapping?
[16:07] <goudkov> hi. i'm running 12.04, unity (compiz), and nautilus seems to be using more and more memory. after running to several hours, nautilus uses 3.5G of ram. i removed appmenu packages, but it's not helping. any ideas?
[16:07] <ikonia> vvvv: how much ram do you have ?
[16:07] <vvvv> 4gig
[16:08] <jackarg> if anyone knows how to fic a broken screen resolution that please tell me
[16:08] <jackarg> fix*
[16:08] <ikonia> vvvv: ok, so it's doubtful your machine is struggling
[16:08] <vvvv> right
[16:08] <ikonia> vvvv: let me think of a quick test
[16:08] <nibbler_> goudkov: sounds like a memory leak.. I'd try to use ccsm to deactivate some plugins and monitor behaviour
[16:08] <IzzoDizzo> look at free -m or top to see if its using swap memory vvvv
[16:08] <vvvv> ok, thanks
[16:09] <ikonia> vvvv: do you know how to open a terminal
[16:09] <vvvv> im on win 7 right now
[16:09] <vvvv> lol
[16:09] <vvvv> yes
[16:09] <goudkov> nibbler_: which plugins should i look into?
[16:09] <IzzoDizzo> lol
[16:09] <vvvv> i do
[16:09] <ikonia> vvvv: ok, that's going to be quite limiting to help you
[16:09] <goudkov> nibbler_: i can't think of anything
[16:09] <vvvv> LOL
[16:09] <nibbler_> vvvv: in terminal (ctrl-alt-t) vmstat 1 and top might give you good indications
[16:09] <vvvv> im about to install ubuntu
[16:09] <ikonia> nibbler_: he's not going to be able to read that
[16:09] <IzzoDizzo> uh
[16:09] <ikonia> vvvv: if you've not installed it, how do you know it's slow ?
[16:09] <IzzoDizzo> so you say ubuntu is sluggish, but you haven't installed it?
[16:09] <vvvv> cuz i have tried it many times
[16:10] <nibbler_> goudkov: disable all, and enable them one-by-one. or disable one-by-one or do some bisectioning...
[16:10] <vvvv> i have installed an uninstalled several times
[16:10] <ikonia> vvvv: come back when yo've got it installed, and we'll work through your problem
[16:10] <vvvv> k
[16:10] <vvvv> im downloading it now
[16:10] <vvvv> are yall on 64 bit ubuntu
[16:10] <vvvv> ?
[16:10] <IzzoDizzo> i'm on osx atm tbh :)
[16:10] <nibbler_> ikonia, vvvv: if you execute those programs, end them after a while (ctrl-c or "q") and paste the output to some nopaste server.
[16:10] <vvvv> LOL
[16:11] <ikonia> lets wait until he has the machine running
[16:11] <vvvv> ok
[16:11] <ikonia> pointless to guess further
[16:11] <nibbler_> yep...agree ;-)
[16:11] <goudkov> nibbler_: ok, thanks
[16:11] <vvvv> any of yall running ubuntu thru virtual machine?
[16:11] <ikonia> vvvv: yes, many times
[16:11] <vvvv> what about now?
[16:11] <nibbler_> goudkov: actually, i'd diable all of them first... if the problem is gone, its one of the plugins - further processing neccessarry. if not, then my guess was bad anyway
[16:11] <ikonia> what do you mean, what about now
[16:11] <vvvv> do u suggest vmware? or virtual box?
[16:11] <ikonia> up to you, I use neither
[16:12] <goudkov> nibbler_: ok, i'll try it. thanks.
[16:12] <compdoc> kvm
[16:12] <lifebird64> vvvv: if you're trying to run ubuntu as a guestOS in a VM, with Windows 7/8 as your hostOS, you'll find it sluggish for sure.
[16:12] <vvvv> true
[16:12] <ikonia> lifebird64: no he won't
[16:12] <vvvv> o
[16:12] <vvvv> i wont?
[16:12] <vvvv> LOL
[16:12] <ikonia> vvvv: your host can easy run a reasonable vm experience
[16:12] <lifebird64> ikonia: matter of opinion. I did.
[16:12] <ikonia> lifebird64: then I suggest configuring it corretly
[16:12] <vvvv> ikonia, u have it installed to your hdd?
[16:12] <v2zz> is it possible to encrypt full hdd, if it's already full of data and has 2os?
[16:13] <lifebird64> ikonia: excellent. now that you're here, please educate vvvv and myself how to configure it correctly.
[16:13] <ikonia> vvvv: not at this exact moment
[16:13] <vvvv> so how do u have it installed?
[16:13] <lordcyfer> @v2zz how do you boot if you encrypt the / partition ?
[16:13] <ikonia> vvvv: I don't at the moment
[16:13] <vvvv> o, u are on os/x?
[16:13] <ikonia> no, a different linux
[16:13] <vvvv> puppy?
[16:14] <lordcyfer> You need to keep a small part of the system non ecrypt
[16:14] <nibbler_> v2zz: there are ways, but i'd not recommend them, and they are certainly not enduser compliant ;-). if you are interested check about encryption using loop-aes, its in the manuals
[16:14] <ikonia> vvvv: no, it doesn't matter what I'm using
[16:14] <IzzoDizzo> guessing what distro someone is using is like finding a needle in a haystack vvvv :)
[16:14] <vvvv> LOL
[16:15] <vvvv> ikonia, is it top secret what os u are using?
[16:15] <ikonia> vvvv: no, but it doesn't matter
[16:16] <hemangpatel> Hello all
[16:16] <nibbler_> one can always try his luck with a ctcp version request :p
[16:16] <kubanc> Hellow. How can i change default port for remote desktop sharing in Ubuntu 12.10?
[16:16] <ikonia> nibbler_: and you'll be dissapointed
[16:16] <BluesKaj> ikonia is a closet gentoo user :)
[16:16] <nibbler_> ikonia: ;-)
[16:16] <hemangpatel> How to remove dependency in installation ?
[16:17] <vvvv> ikonia, do u suggest the 32 or 64 bit ubunut?
[16:17] <ikonia> vvvv: are you going to run it in a vm ?
[16:17] <vvvv> yes i am
[16:17] <IzzoDizzo> doesnt really matter in a 4gb machine i think vvvv
[16:17] <ikonia> vvvv: probably better to use a 32bit guest OS to kep your resources low
[16:17] <IzzoDizzo> altho pae does have a slight performance hit
[16:17] <vvvv> k
[16:18] <padhu> escott: sorry, I had an power problem
[16:18] <hemangpatel> I have some dependency problem while installing libc6 php
[16:18] <ikonia> hemangpatel: libc should be installed on your system already
[16:18] <jackarg_> hi, just a quick question, Is nvidia optimus different from nvidia geforce? I want to use project bumblebee and I wanna know if it would work with my nvidia card
[16:18] <ikonia> hemangpatel: it's a core part of the OS
[16:18] <vvvv> i tried running puppy linux in vmware, and the damn mouse wouldnt move correctly
[16:19] <hemangpatel> ikonia : it's saying libc6 (=>2.15) like error
[16:19] <ikonia> hemangpatel: what are you actually trying to install
[16:20] <hemangpatel> hmm zend server
[16:20] <hemangpatel> right now at home
[16:20] <selena2013> hello
[16:20] <vvvv> hey
[16:20] <hemangpatel> so cant give you perfect problem
[16:20] <vvvv> selena gomez?
[16:20] <ikonia> hemangpatel: how are you installing the zend server
[16:20] <selena2013> lol no
[16:20] <ikonia> hemangpatel: from within apt ?
[16:21] <ubilli> please help with my wireless ralink 5390
[16:21] <hemangpatel> ikonia : yeah.
[16:21] <dr_willis> jackarg_:  theres no reason to use optimus/bumblebee for non optimus setupos
[16:21] <dr_willis> jackarg_:  if you have a dual-video card setup on the newer laptops. then they are using the optimus stuff
[16:21] <ikonia> hemangpatel: what repository are you getting it from ?
[16:21] <hemangpatel> ikonia : this method
[16:22] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ depends on your hardware
[16:22] <hemangpatel> first time it's installed perfectly but
[16:22] <IzzoDizzo> i can't even get nvidia drivers to work on my macbook pro :)
[16:22] <ikonia> hemangpatel: which method ?
[16:22] <ikonia> hemangpatel: where are you getting the software from ?
[16:22] <hemangpatel> deb http://repos.zend.com/zend-server/deb server non-free
[16:22] <ikonia> hemangpatel: ok - so this is the problem
[16:22] <codrus> Question: I only need to download updates of kernal files and headers when I want to re-compile my kernal, right? Otherwise there's no point, right?
[16:23] <mshake> hi guys i'm hacked at the moment what should i do
[16:23] <jona> bonjour
[16:23] <jona> j'ai des fichiers sur mon lecteur mp3
[16:23] <jona> dans la corbeille, qui sont impossible a suprimer
[16:23] <jona> je reçois une erreur qui me dis qu'il est impossible d'éditer ces fichiers car ils sont en lecture seule...
[16:23] <FloodBot1> jona: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <hemangpatel> I tried to remove that version then something happen during uninstallation
[16:23] <jackarg_> dr_willis and IzzoDizzo I'm running 12.04 on 64 bit the nvidia card is geforce and I want to use bumblebee to install the drivers as well as get my screen resolution back to normal. is it possible?
[16:23] <ikonia> hemangpatel: I very very strongly advise you not to try to install it
[16:23] <ikonia> hemangpatel: that package is linked against the wrong version of glibc for your ubuntu release
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !fr | jona
[16:23] <ikonia> hemangpatel: yeah, no NOT remove glibc
[16:23] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ do you only have a nvidia card in your system?
[16:23] <hemangpatel> ikonia : what you suggested..
[16:24] <dr_willis> jackarg_:  unless you have an optimus chipset/setup.. you dont use bumblebee
[16:24] <hemangpatel> then i tried sh file given by zend
[16:24] <ikonia> hemangpatel: look for someone who's built the package properly, or contact zend and ask for a pakcage for your version of ubuntu
[16:24] <hemangpatel> but it failed & given that dependency error
[16:24] <dr_willis> geforce is a rather generic name for a chipset..
[16:24] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo I think I mean there is probably a default graphics card.
[16:24] <jackarg_> dr_willis how do I know if I have an optimus setup?
[16:25] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ do lspci | grep VGA
[16:25] <ubilli> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122144 dats my thread please help me solve it
[16:25] <BluesKaj> jackarg_, do you have a graphics switcher , dual gpus ?
[16:26] <kubanc> Hellow. How can i change default port for remote desktop sharing in Ubuntu 12.10?
[16:26] <hemangpatel> ikonia : I tried method given in URL.. It works. But after everything bad :(
[16:26] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo i got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585492/
[16:26] <mshake> how to unhack my ubuntu
[16:27] <hemangpatel> & also i have old version  of xubuntu. that may be problem with new version of zend server
[16:27] <IzzoDizzo> kubanc, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1297290&p=8966425#post8966425
[16:27] <ikonia> hemangpatel: yes, because it's breaking glibc, which I told you not to do
[16:27] <jackarg_> BluesKaj: I heard my card could do switchable but I have no idea how to enable it in bios so that's another story. you think i can fix my graphis that way?
[16:27] <hemangpatel> ikonia: Great help..
[16:28] <hemangpatel> This is why i love this community.
[16:28] <hemangpatel> Ubuntu phone irc ? anyone ?
[16:28] <vvvv> phone?
[16:28] <ikonia> hemangpatel: ?
[16:28] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ seems like an optimus setup
[16:28] <Pici> hemangpatel: #ubuntu-phone
[16:28] <ubilli> please can anyone help
[16:29] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ whats wrong with your gfx at the moment?
[16:29] <hemangpatel> ikonia :Pici given answer :)
[16:29] <SAngeli> Hi, I already have OpenSSH installed on my ubuntu server. I need sftp service and am confused. Is this an OpenSSH service or do I have to install vsftp? I am reading this official ubuntu doc at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[16:29] <SAngeli> is vsftpd what I would need to instal? I just need a confirmation
[16:29] <SAngeli> if possible
[16:29] <IzzoDizzo> vsftpd is for normal ftp
[16:30] <Pici> SAngeli: FTP and SFTP are two different things.
[16:30] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo: what's gfx? basically i installed nvidia-current and all that bs then i got stuck in 640x480 then i removed it and im back to unity 3D but I'm still stuck in the low resolution. Will bumblebee bring it back?
[16:30] <IzzoDizzo> did you run nvidia-xconfig after installing nvidia-current?
[16:30] <Pici> SAngeli: If you just want sftp, openssh will provide that.
[16:30] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo what I mean is, will bumblebee enable the default resolution?
[16:30] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo yes
[16:30] <SAngeli> Pici, so I do not have to install anything else, than.
[16:31] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_ look at your xorf.conf
[16:31] <Pici> SAngeli: Correct.
[16:31] <guest-SgDPuT> hey
[16:31] <mshake> my ubuntu is hacked what should i do now ?
[16:31] <SAngeli> Pici, but vsftpd also provide Secure FTP access, no?
[16:32] <IzzoDizzo> mshake, hacked how?
[16:32] <Pici> SAngeli: No. Just FTP.
[16:32] <mshake> if i knew i wouldn't post here
[16:32] <vexati0n> Anyone available? Using Ubuntu Server 12.04. I have about 25 "mount.cifs" processes stuck (from a cron job that runs every hour). these processes cannot be killed no matter how medieval i get with the kill/killall/pkill commands
[16:32] <vexati0n> how do i force them to go away?
[16:32] <IzzoDizzo> mshake, i've had some success running rkhunter
[16:32] <ert3go> mshake, how did you know your ubuntu is hacked?
[16:32] <IzzoDizzo> mshake, but you never know what exactly the hackers did to your system
[16:33] <jackarg_> IzooDizzo here: http://pastebin.com/BgkwmxsX
[16:33] <xxiao> what's the difference between 'adduser user1 group1' and 'addgroup user1 group1'? are they the same
[16:33] <mshake> well how do i know that if i formated and reinstalled ubuntu that will not happen again
[16:33] <mshake> i updated everything
[16:33] <BluesKaj> jackarg_, looks like you have dual gpus,  intel and nvidia , whether that qualifies as "optimus" , I'm not sure , this the bumble bee tutorial , if it applies to your laptop. http://www.bumblebee-project.org/install.html .make sure your graphics are the "optimus" type first.
[16:33] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg_, try renaming the xorg.conf to something else, and restart X
[16:33] <xxiao> 'man addgroup' does not show "addgroup user1 group1" syntax at all
[16:33] <SAngeli> Pici, I get it. While I am searching do you have handy an official ubuntu doc I can read/follw on how to set OpenSSH for SFTP setup please?
[16:33] <IzzoDizzo> see if that does anything
[16:34] <mshake> well it seem ubuntu is less secure than windows
[16:34] <jhutchins_wk> mshake: Don't be silly.
[16:34] <Pici> SAngeli: You don't need to change anything. It allows this by default.
[16:34] <jackarg_> IzzoDizzo: whats the command to restart x
[16:34] <IzzoDizzo> alt+f2 and r
[16:34] <IzzoDizzo> or just reboot
[16:34] <jackarg_> ok
[16:35] <mshake> First of all how do i know who is helping me ?
[16:35] <mshake> how to clean my machine ?
[16:35] <IzzoDizzo> mshake, how did you find out you were hacked? what has changed
[16:35] <jhutchins_wk> mshake: Why do you think it's hacked?
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> mshake: If someone mentions your nick (like I just did)
[16:35] <IzzoDizzo> mshake can't help you without knowing details
[16:36] <mshake> well to tell the story it's from bleepingcomputer channel
[16:36] <mshake> someone was able to tell what i was doing on my computer
[16:36] <IzzoDizzo> like running processes and stuff?
[16:36] <mshake> like what page i was looking at
[16:36] <jhutchins_wk> mshake: There are 1800+ people watching, so if someone tries something shady with you we'll all know.
[16:37] <SAngeli> Pici, there must be a sorf of configuration, no?
[16:37] <CrustyBarnacle> mshake: lots of eyes here :-)
[16:37] <kriskropd> mshake: do you have a remote display running? vnc, rdp, nx - anything like that?
[16:37] <dr_willis> dident we have someone in here last week qwith the same 'issue' - turned out their router was  what was actually 'hacked'
[16:37] <IzzoDizzo> mshake: is your pc directly connected to the internet? or thought a network
[16:37] <mshake> i can't be sure
[16:38] <mshake> through a router
[16:38] <mshake> i rest the router nothing happend
[16:39] <IzzoDizzo> mshake: only what browser pages you were looking at?
[16:40] <Pici> SAngeli: not by default. Take a look at man sshd_config if you want to tweak anything though.
[16:40] <SAngeli> Pici, ok, thanks. I will
[16:41] <ert3go> Hello guys.A debconf box popped up while I was trying to install software from Ubuntu software centre.How tgo get rid of it?
[16:41] <kriskropd> mshake: you could see if you had some remote display running by doing somehting like this in a terminal 'ps aux | grep "vnc\|rdp\|nx"' but that would be easier to find if you knew of one you were using because there are actually a handful of possible remote servers and they might not include the protocol in their name
[16:42] <kriskropd> mshake: but it could also be the "hacker" was looking at firefox memory from a shell or evn just packet sniffing, so anything is really possible if you don't know where to start
[16:42] <ubilli> hello
[16:42] <BluesKaj> mshake, your country is monitoring the internet very closely due to your civil war there , maybe that's what happened to you.
[16:43] <ert3go> kriskropd, I tried that same command out of curiousity and I got a huge output.Should I be worried?
[16:43] <jackarg> IzzyDizzy if I were a millionaire I would pay you a couple hundred right now.
[16:44] <kriskropd> ert3go: ... maybe? each line is a process that is running with one of those protocols in the line some where
[16:44] <kriskropd> ert3go: persoanlly, I'm worried when something is running and I don't know what it is - but I realize not everyone is like that
[16:44] <kriskropd> ert3go: personally*
[16:44] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg :)
[16:45] <ert3go> shall I post the output  of that command kriskropd ?
[16:45] <jackarg> IzzyDizzy YOU ARE AMAZING I spent three hours yesterday night in the same chatroom talking to people who failed to fix my problem. now doing the simplest thing you managed to get my resolution back to normal. THANK YOU THIS GUY DESERVES A MEDAL
[16:45] <kriskropd> ert3go: you can post it to a paste bin, but make sure you are not going to disclose passwords or something
[16:45] <IzzoDizzo> lol :)
[16:45] <jackarg> why the fuck am I typing your name as IzzyDizzy when it's IzzoDizzo
[16:45] <kriskropd> ert3go: im at work, but I can take a look at it for a moment
[16:46] <ddssc> what's the easiest way to limit the freshly created user to his home dir (rw) , he must not be able to see anything else. command line plz
[16:46] <jackarg> anyway, IzzoDizzo I don't want to go through intalling nvidia again so do you think I can get it working by installing bumblebee?
[16:46] <ikonia> ddssc: it's not a good idea to do that for a shell user
[16:46] <ikonia> ddssc: what are you trying to see him seeing ?
[16:46] <ikonia> stop him seeing sorry
[16:47] <ddssc> ikonia, it's supposed to be an ftp user that only has r acess to a single dir in his home dir
[16:47] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg not sure if yours is an optimus setup
[16:47] <ikonia> ddssc: ok - so th question i show do you setup ftp to limit
[16:47] <Gnea> ddssc: that's up to the ftp daemon config
[16:47] <ikonia> ddssc: most ftp daemons have a chroot function
[16:47] <ikonia> ddssc: look at that
[16:47] <jackarg> IzzoDizzo ok so if not what should I do to properly install the drivers and make the most out of my comp
[16:48] <IzzoDizzo> well, bumble is really only for optimizing your power usage
[16:48] <LeniOO> hello, just a quick question, native resolution for my monitor is 1680x1050@60, but I can't go higher than 1600x1200 through ATI Catalyst Control Center, my GPU is Radeon HD6770. Could it be because of the VGA connector I'm using? VGA is capped at 1600x1200?
[16:48] <IzzoDizzo> if you're using a laptop
[16:48] <ddssc> ikonia, im using proftpd. is that somewhere in proftpd.conf?
[16:48] <ikonia> ddssc: there is a chroot funciton, yes
[16:48] <IzzoDizzo> else i see now real benefits for it
[16:49] <Gnea> ddssc: yes, proftpd supports it. read their manual, it explains it. proftpd.org iirc
[16:49] <jackarg> IzzoDizzo ok so I need to do the nvidia-current and nvidia-settings install?
[16:49] <noobie888> anyone know how do i echo $1 with $1 being the text $1 instead of taking the variable for bash script?
[16:49] <jackarg> that's what got me into this mess in the first place
[16:49] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg, did you install it from the software sources gui? or just apt-get
[16:50] <jackarg> i did apt-get....
[16:50] <Gnea> ddssc: yup, there it is: http://proftpd.org/docs/howto/Chroot.html
[16:50] <IzzoDizzo> noobie888, put a \ infront op the $ ?
[16:50] <evilsk4ter> noobie888 echo \$1
[16:50] <thirumal> thiru
[16:50] <jackarg> noobie888: put quotes around it?
[16:50] <KolakCC> LeniOO: Video card brothers! *fist bump* - did you install the drivers from the amd website or from ubuntu?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> it's not real difficult to find out if your system is an optimus graphics , just search google with your make and model laptop, jackarg
[16:50] <jackarg> or a slash
[16:50] <thirumal> hai
[16:50] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg, try from the software sources / additional drivers
[16:50] <jackarg> BluesKaj or will do
[16:50] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg not sure if that'll work tho
[16:51] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:51] <noobie888> Thanks guys, it worked
[16:51] <newro> hello. I'm having an issue where I'm trying to run updates, but I can't because my boot partition is too small (it apparently has a max size of 256MB). When I boot from USB and try to resize it with GParted, it maxes out the size of that partition to 256MB because I believe it is the SSD on a hybrid harddrive. How do I move the boot partition to the main harddrive? and is there a way to use the 256MB Hybrid SSD for cache, etc?
[16:51] <jackarg> BluesKaj IzzoDizzo says bumblebee is only for optimizing battery life. I want to use nvidia to also optimize graphics when playing a game
[16:52] <LeniOO> KolakCC: I had earlier integrated GPU ATI 3000, I have bought today HD6770 and didn't do anything with the drivers, since both are ATI
[16:52] <jackarg> BluesKaj I know my make of nvidia it's geforce
[16:52] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg, using bumblebee you can run both intel and nvidia "at the same time"
[16:52] <newro> Do I simple need to flag my main partition as boot?
[16:52] <thirumal> dont use nvidia it create problem while booting
[16:52] <vorlket> escott: dumb question, but if i wanna install software raid, i have to set my sata setting as raid rather than ahci?
[16:52] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg you run graphics intensive stuff using optirun
[16:52] <jackarg> IzzoDizzo so that dosen't improve the game image quality?
[16:52] <jackarg> IzzoDizzo so that's what I need right?
[16:53] <IzzoDizzo> jackarg, you can just try to install it, if it doesnt work you can always remove it :)
[16:53] <vorlket> escott: i don't understand the logic behind it, but the efi issue goes away after i change the setting from ahci to raid
[16:53] <ert3go> Hello, after running rkhunter, I got this message in log  Checking for passwd file changes                [ Warning ]
[16:53] <ert3go> [22:21:34] Warning: User 'postfix' has been added to the passwd file.
[16:53] <jackarg> optirun is part of bumblebee so if I run a game i just do that and it works right BluesKaj?
[16:53] <ikonia> ert3go: why are you running root kit hunter?
[16:53] <ikonia> ert3go: do you have a reason to believe you've been compromised ?
[16:54] <jackarg> ok will do IzzoDizzo and again thankyou for fixing my computer. I can finally watch game of thrones!
[16:54] <vvvv_> fuckin ubunto iso stalled , now i gotta redownload, dont u hate when that shit happens?
[16:54] <LeniOO> KolakCC: I just plugged new GPU in PCI-E slot and started ubuntu normally. GPU is recognized, but the resolution didn't change, so I'm capped at 1600x1200 (4:3) or 1440x900 (16:10)
[16:54] <jackarg> and other things :)
[16:54] <ert3go> ikonia, not really.Another pc on same network is infected.So just being safe.
[16:54] <IzzoDizzo> ;)
[16:54] <ikonia> vvvv_: that language is uaccaptable
[16:54] <ikonia> vvvv_: please stop it
[16:54] <ikonia> ert3go: that is probably one of the most useless tools you can find
[16:54] <ert3go> oh okay.
[16:54] <ikonia> ert3go: I'd advise you to not waste any more time on it
[16:54] <vvvv_> LOL
[16:54] <torkel_> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[16:54] <ikonia> vvvv_: it's not funny
[16:54] <vvvv_> yeah it is
[16:55] <newro> hello. I'm having an issue where I'm trying to run updates, but I can't because my boot partition is too small (it apparently has a max size of 256MB). When I boot from USB and try to resize it with GParted, it maxes out the size of that partition to 256MB because I believe it is the SSD on a hybrid harddrive. How do I move the boot partition to the main harddrive? and is there a way to use the 256MB Hybrid SSD for cache, etc?
[16:55] <newro> Do I simple need to flag my main partition as boot?
[16:56] <KolakCC> LeniOO: I'd try installing drivers from their site, and see if the problem is fixed
[16:56] <boldfilter> Can I move the unity bar to the right hand side?
[16:56] <ert3go> ikonia, any other suggestions just to make sure my machine is not compromised?
[16:56] <WilsonB> howdy
[16:57] <ikonia> ert3go: basically - common sense
[16:57] <ikonia> ert3go: look around, look for running processes, look at time stamps on core binaries files, check cron etc etc
[16:58] <ert3go> ikonia, not an expert user here.
[16:58] <kriskropd> ert3go: compromise awareness is relative to familiarity of the system - a program can only be updated to so much familiarity; what you can do easily is just practice not opening holes where you don't need them
[16:59] <kriskropd> ert3go: 'netstat -tulpn' shows connections your system is maintaining and 'ps aux' can be grepped to find if processes are running
[17:00] <kriskropd> ert3go: the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but that's where I would start
[17:00] <llutz> if you think your system was compromised, you cannot trust any of the installed systemtools, as they might be compromised too.
[17:00] <jony> finally I've reinstalled Ubuntu and now my USB sticks are working again
[17:00] <ikonia> ert3go: appreciate that, but if you are in any doubt, you should re-install
[17:00] <ikonia> ert3go: I know that's negative, but it's the best way
[17:01] <ikonia> ert3go: if you have no doubt, the continue with confidence
[17:01] <ert3go> kriskropd, netstat -tulpn seems okay.I know ps|aux but I hardly know which processes are legitimate.
[17:02] <newro> can anyone see what is going on with my file system? I don't understand why I can't resize my main partition in gparted: http://s15.postimage.org/4uuzfp0fv/Screenshot_from_2013_03_04_17_00_46.png
[17:02] <ert3go> ikonia, okay.Thanks for the advice! I doubt I've been compromised but I've never met someone with corrupted ubuntu machine
[17:03] <ubuntu_user> hi, i have ubuntu hardy .cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS \n \l . I want to upgrade to recent version without formatting my disk through hardy itself. how do i go about it?
[17:03] <newro> if I do resize/move, there is not ability to resize the main partition, which seems to have a type of "Extended" instead of ext3 or ext4??
[17:04] <KolakCC> newro: could be mistaken, but don't you have to resize the partitions in the extended partition before you can resize the whole?
[17:04] <llutz> newro: its an extended partition /dev/sda2 which holds logical drives /dev/sda5. you have to resize the logical drive
[17:04] <jony> it can be detached COMPLETELY from windows and to use ONLY UBUNTU?
[17:04] <spow>  Hi. I have a "mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card" error when plugging an SD Card in my SD card port, but the SD card is read OK on another computer. Is my port fried ?
[17:05] <newro> oh wait
[17:05] <newro> I see the problem, if I try to resize the logical partition, it says that Encryption is not set up yet
[17:05] <newro> how do I add the encryption password?
[17:06] <newro> it says: Warning: Linux Unified Key encyption is not yet supported.
[17:06] <ubuntu_user> i have ubuntu hardy. can i upgrade to recent ubuntu version from command line itself?
[17:06] <ikonia> ubuntu_user: that's not going to be a good process,
[17:06] <ikonia> ubuntu_user: what version are you thinking of moving to ?
[17:07] <ubuntu_user> 12.10 i suppose
[17:07] <KolakCC> newro: it seems that gparted doesn't work with crypt-liks yet
[17:07] <ikonia> ubuntu_user: I'd advise a backup of data and clean install for that sort of jump
[17:07] <Selfarian> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from an usb stick to my nas via the serial console. I put it on the usb stick with this tool : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:08] <newro> can I convert the partition from crypt-luks? or resize crypt-luks?
[17:08] <ubuntu_user> oh! i run it as virtual machine. i have a system that has 10 GB only for virtual machines.
[17:08] <Selfarian> Now my nas boots correctly from the usb-stick into the "installer boot menu" but if i choose "Run ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" only the "installer boot menu" reloads and nothing happens
[17:08] <wad> Trying to fix a VPN problem. How can I tell what the MTU is, on a remote ubuntu machine?
[17:08] <Selfarian> has anyone an idea to help me?
[17:08] <student-of-Big_M> What will be the price point of the new Ubuntu Phone???
[17:09] <KolakCC> newro: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions ?
[17:10] <Selfarian> ...if i choose "Run Ubuntu" there is a countdown of 5 seconds. But if it's 0 only the menu reloads like when i choose "install"
[17:10] <Pici> student-of-Big_M: Please ask in #ubuntu-phone
[17:10] <glenn> how can i install a printer that is shared on a other linux ubuntu 12.04
[17:10] <newro> nope, thanks :)
[17:12] <newro> i'll have to try this later, thanks KolakCC
[17:12] <KolakCC> glad to have helped
[17:12] <dominic_> currently I have mounted network drives show up under "Computer" in Nautilus.  Is there a way to have the mounted drive show up under "Network" in the left pane?
[17:12] <padhu> anybody tell me how can i use .mdb file in qgis on ubuntu
[17:13] <padhu> qgis ==> quatum GIS
[17:13] <boldfilter> Why has ubuntu abandoned its users
[17:14] <glenn> how can i share a printer in linux
[17:15] <KolakCC> glenn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[17:15] <Guest1484> hi folks i am on an ubuntu server and i need to reconnect it to the internet modem how do i get that to work?
[17:15] <glenn> KolakCC,  i take a look thanks
[17:18] <mirko_> hallo
[17:18] <Kwerty> I'm having trouble pairing devices with a Bluetooth USB device on an Acer Aspire One netbook running Ubuntu 12.10. The Bluetooth adapter flashes, indicating that it's searching to pair with another device, but neither my phone nor my headset connect. Could you aid me in troubleshooting this?
[17:19] <glenn> how can i share a printer by cups
[17:20] <c2tarun> I installed XFCE4 on my ubuntu, and it kind of messed up grub and now I am getting a different grub menu. I wan't to restore my original grub, which was installed in /dev/sda1 How can I achieve this? I have a ubuntu 12.04 live CD
[17:20] <Lobosque> how do you change your password without prompt? (command line)
[17:20] <nibbler_> Lobosque: sudo vim /etc/shadow - make sure to have your hashes at hand.
[17:20] <ikonia> Lobosque: the user gui ?
[17:20] <v2zz> #encryption
[17:21] <Selfarian> noone has an idea? :/
[17:21] <Lobosque> nibbler_ so how do I crypt my password using the system salt? (eg in /etc/shadow)
[17:22] <kubanc> I get this key has no schema in gconf editor for ubuntu 12.10...
[17:22] <KolakCC> Selfarian: Do you have the correct architecture? are you sure that it's even possible?
[17:23] <ikonia> Lobosque: what are you actually ttrying to do ?
[17:23] <alainus> how can i print several copies of one image in the same page (for example, for a set of business cards) ?? do i need to download a special app or does ubuntu have something for that ?
[17:23] <Lobosque> ikonia im trying to add a user without prompting for passwork
[17:23] <Lobosque> password*
[17:23] <ikonia> Lobosque: prompting who ?
[17:23] <ikonia> Lobosque: the user or you creating it
[17:23] <Lobosque> who runs the shell script im writing
[17:24] <ikonia> Lobosque: why would it prompt them for a password ?
[17:24] <nibbler_> Lobosque: there is a high level tool for that, if i could just remember...
[17:24] <IdleOne> Lobosque: creating a user is an admin task, if your script creates a new user when run it will need sudo privs.
[17:25] <Lobosque> ikonia because im writing a script that adds users
[17:25] <uppfinnarn> do you mean an user with a blank pass, or do you not want to enter a pass when adding it?
[17:25] <ikonia> Lobosque: what function is prompting for the password
[17:25] <Lobosque> IdleOne I know
[17:25] <bnason> I can't seem to install the package, npm. I get the following error, "npm : Depends: nodejs-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, running dpkg --get-selections | grep hold returns nothing
[17:25] <Selfarian> KolakCC: hm... maybe thats the fault... i was pretty shure that there's fedora 64bit running on the nas... i'll take a look at it... i am so confused, that there's no error displayed ;)
[17:25] <Lobosque> ikonia chpasswd prompts for password
[17:25] <nibbler_> Lobosque: chpasswd is the tool/package
[17:25] <chro> I use 2 monitors and the laptop screen is always blinking from time to time, what's wrong?
[17:25] <ikonia> Lobosque: that doesn't make sense
[17:25] <Lobosque> you can set a new user password with adduser, but it must be encrypted
[17:26] <jrib> bnason: you have no idea why?
[17:26] <bnason> nope
[17:26] <Lobosque> so all I need to know is how to encrypt something to the same format as in /etc/shadow
[17:26] <ikonia> Lobosque: I've just done "sudo chkpasswd user 123456" and it's just changed that users password fine,
[17:27] <uppfinnarn> you can't touch that file without admin privileges anyways, so it'd be useless if you did
[17:27] <jrib> bnason: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again.  If it persists, pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy npm nodejs-dev; sudo apt-get install nodejs-dev »
[17:27] <KolakCC> Lobosque: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/understanding-etcshadow-file/ describes the format /etc/shadow. you'll need to DES encode it, it seems.
[17:27] <ikonia> Lobosque: apologies if I'm missing what you are trying to do
[17:28] <Lobosque> ikonia chkpasswd?
[17:28] <jrib> Lobosque: man shadow   describes how the format works
[17:28] <ikonia> Lobosque: sorry typo, chpasswd
[17:29] <jony> what's the best yahoo messenger software for ubuntu?
[17:29] <KolakCC> pidgin! yeah
[17:29] <bnason> jrib, http://pastebin.com/ce8wrzgT
[17:30] <jrib> bnason: apt-cache policy nodejs
[17:30] <Lobosque> chpasswd user 12356  do not work for me... weird..
[17:31] <bnason> jrib, http://pastebin.com/DGy3FQzs
[17:31] <jrib> bnason: you have a package you installed from outside the repositories; this is causing your issue
[17:31] <Selfarian> KolakCC: at the moment is a fedora 14 x64 kernel running at the nas... i downloaded the ubuntu desktop version 12.04 LTS 64 Bit... so i think it should work... this is the NAS: Intel SS4200-E
[17:31] <bnason> ah
[17:31] <bnason> thanks
[17:32] <KolakCC> Selfarian: Have you tried ubuntu mini iso?
[17:32] <Selfarian> no
[17:32] <dylan-school> A friend of mine had some computer trouble and accidentally recovered her computer to what was on the recovery partition.  She lost ALL of her files, her artwork, family photos, scholarship and college stuff, etc.  I'm pretty sure the files are still there, just unlinked from the directory.  What would you reccommend to get them back?  I've heard od scalpel and was thinking of doing that.  Could I clone/copy the contents of the 
[17:32] <dylan-school> I'm not sure what to do
[17:33] <judas> i can't input unicode via ctrl+shift+u
[17:33] <judas> anyone any ideas what is broken?
[17:33] <tkeith> I upgraded a package and it asked me what I want to do about changed configuration and I hit N for "keep current config". Now I want to know what the changes were. How do I get apt or dpkg to give me that option again?
[17:33] <idhfa> How to change physicaal mac id in ubuntu
[17:34] <ikonia> idhfa: you don't
[17:34] <bnason> jrib, thanks a lot, fixed it all :D
[17:34] <Selfarian> KolakCC: how can i get the mini iso?
[17:34] <judas> idhfa: depends on the driver, try the preferences from the network icon
[17:34] <KolakCC> Selfarian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:35] <judas> what program is execute when you press ctrl+shift+u ?
[17:35] <jony> what's the best yahoo messenger software for ubuntu?
[17:35] <pratz> My ubuntu 12.04 has become slow, how can i remove unused packages ?
[17:35] <Selfarian> is this: Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" Minimal CD the LTS?
[17:35] <uppfinnarn> jony: Pidgin
[17:35] <jony> tyty
[17:35] <jony> uppfinnarn,  ty
[17:36] <llutz> tkeith: you can see the new file with "less path/to/config.dpkg-dist"
[17:36] <jrib> tkeith: try reinstalling the package and passing the dpkg option "force-confask"
[17:36] <pratz> how can i remove unused packages ?
[17:37] <KolakCC> Selfarian: yeah
[17:37] <judas> pratz: unused packages are removed by default
[17:37] <jrib> pratz: apt-get autoremove
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !autoremove
[17:37] <mdh> pratz: deborphan to find orphaned packages
[17:37] <newroad> hallo, could anyone recommend me the best application for doing a full drive image backup?
[17:37] <Selfarian> ok, i'll try it... thanks
[17:37] <judas> newraod: dd
[17:37] <drleviathan> however, I don't see how removing unused packages is going to speed up the system
[17:37] <tkeith> llutz: How have I never heard of this before?? Thank you! I also have blah.conf.SOME-LONG-ID. Is that the current version pre-modifications or something?
[17:38] <pratz> jrib: mdh ya, but i want to find packages which i have installed previously and I am not using them now ,is there a way to find such packages ?
[17:38] <judas> newroad: if the disk is faulty use ddrescure
[17:38] <llutz> tkeith: idk
[17:39] <newroad> nah, I just want to make a backup of my current setup
[17:39] <idhfa> How to change physicaal mac id in ubuntu
[17:39] <sloucher> newroad: I've heard of and used before "clonezilla"
[17:39] <jrib> pratz: how does the system know if you are using them?
[17:39] <judas> idhfa: then you don't need a full rive image backup
[17:39] <pratz> jrib: by the usage or similar
[17:39] <judas> idhfa: jus copy your home folder
[17:40] <newroad> oic.. I have to boot from this eh?
[17:40] <idhfa> judas: Sorry that's not my question..
[17:40] <jrib> pratz: autoremove will remove packages that got installed as dependencies but are no longer needed because you removed the applications that needed them.  If you want to find out what programs you haven't run in the last month and remove those, I don't know how you would do that
[17:40] <judas> idhfa: i think ubuntu comes with a backup utility ...
[17:40] <idhfa> judas: How to change physicaal mac id in ubuntu
[17:41] <judas> idhfa: ohh sry, wrong user, have a look at 'man ip'
[17:41] <bizhanMona> HI I am trying to understand how to build my own ubuntu packages. Currently we are working in an embedded environment and have lot us of packages (based on buildroot/autotool). I need to port these packages to ubuntu build infrastruture. Any hint greatly appreciated? thanks
[17:41] <pratz> jrib: actually a program like that would be very useful
[17:41] <woolite64> I'm using a Belkin SOHO KVM switch with a few boxes that PXE-boot Ubuntu 10.04 through 12.04. The KVM has an onboard USB hub that connects to the keyboard/mouse to each computer. Whenever this is plugged in, I hang on boot. I run into the same issues on a Ubuntu 12.10 USB loader. The obvious workaround is to unplug the USB cable while it's booting up. Are there any other workarounds for this? Should I
[17:41] <woolite64> submit a bug report? Thanks in advance.
[17:42] <jrib> pratz: I guess you could search your bin directories for files with old atimes.  I don't know
[17:42] <Pici> bizhanMona: Take a look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ and #ubuntu-packaging
[17:43] <judas> how do i change the keybinding for ctrl+shift+u ?
[17:43] <bizhanMona> Pici: Thanks so much.
[17:44] <drleviathan> pratz, you can list all installed packages via: dpkg -l
[17:44] <drleviathan> you could then go through the list manually looking for likely stuff to remove
[17:44] <drleviathan> then use: sudo apt-get remove package-name
[17:45] <pratz> drleviathan: will be a long process , but useful
[17:45] <drleviathan> pratz, that will just clear up space on your hard drive, not make the system much faster
[17:46] <drleviathan> unless you installed a bunch of services that launch at startup -- removing unecessary daemons can speed up the boot I suppose
[17:46] <pratz> drleviathan: any tips to make system faster ?
[17:47] <drleviathan> pratz, faster at what?  faster desktop?  faster boot?  faster web browsing?  or... ?
[17:47] <pratz> drleviathan: faster desktop
[17:48] <wad> From the command line, how do you tell what the MTU is?
[17:48] <drleviathan> pratz, first thing would be to max out your RAM
[17:48] <bekks> wad: Just take a look at "ifconfig"
[17:48]  * wad looks
[17:48] <pratz> drleviathan: boot is not a problem, I can wait till booting process, but even when i dray windows of open a program takes a long time
[17:48] <llutz> wad: ifconfig, ip a s
[17:48] <wad> Ah, I see it. Thanks.
[17:48] <pratz> drleviathan: 4GB is not sufficient ?
[17:48] <wad> Missed it last time. -_-
[17:49] <drleviathan> next would be to get a faster hard drive.  SSD will help, but you want to make sure your motherboard would actually support the faster SATA speeds
[17:49] <drleviathan> pratz, 4G should be plenty.  What exactly is slow?  apps slow to launch?  menus slow?
[17:49] <drleviathan> or games are slow?
[17:50] <pratz> drleviathan: dude my system was fast a few months back when it was a fresh install, but i think because of lots of programs installed it has become slow
[17:50] <dylan-school> A friend of mine had some computer trouble and accidentally recovered her computer to what was on the recovery partition.  She lost ALL of her files, her artwork, family photos, scholarship and college stuff, etc.  I'm pretty sure the files are still there, just unlinked from the directory.  What would you reccommend to get them back?  I've heard od scalpel and was thinking of doing that.  Could I clone/copy the contents of the 
[17:50] <pratz> drleviathan: apps slow to launch and when you drag windows etc..
[17:50] <drleviathan> pratz, try "ps aux" at the command line to see all processes
[17:50] <drleviathan> look for processes up near the top that are eating lots of CPU or memory
[17:50] <drleviathan> er... whoops
[17:51] <drleviathan> I mean use the "top" command
[17:51] <drleviathan> perhaps ubuntu has a graphical "top" equivalent for browsing for hot processes... dunno
[17:51] <ert3go> Hello, not sure if my question if fit for this channel but I'll ask anyways.Since last 1-2 days, my wifi seems to be disconnecting intermittently.It happened 4 times in last 20 minutes.Can anyone help me?
[17:52] <ert3go> is*
[17:52] <drleviathan> btw pratz, to quit the "top" command press "q"
[17:52] <sarger001> Guys skype won't appear in the software center
[17:53] <sarger001> reinstalled skype and third party aps do show
[17:53] <mdh> try htop for graphical top
[17:53] <pratz> drleviathan: ok
[17:53] <sarger001> *reinstalled software center
[17:54] <judas> ert3go: restart the router
[17:54] <pratz> drleviathan: when  i do 'ps aux' 180 ps are running
[17:54] <idhfa> judas: How to change physicaal mac id in ubuntu
[17:54] <pratz> drleviathan: that does not sound good, correct ?
[17:55] <drleviathan> pratz, sorry the "ps aux" suggestion.  try "top" instead
[17:55] <ert3go> tried that judas .Still it gives problems
[17:55] <judas> idhfa: did you have a look at the 'ip' command?
[17:55] <drleviathan> ps just lists all processes
[17:55] <nibbler_> idhfa: for sure somehow with the command "ip ..." but don't ask for the details
[17:55] <sarger001> Guys, can someone help me?
[17:55] <idhfa> logout
[17:55] <sarger001> I hvae idh
[17:55] <idhfa> exit
[17:55] <sarger001> *hava
[17:55] <sarger001> *have
[17:55] <nibbler_> sarger001: you need to enable some of the 3rd party repositories...
[17:55] <sarger001> but i didn't logout, i shut down and turned back on
[17:56] <sarger001> i think i done that
[17:56] <sarger001> nibbler
[17:57] <pratz> drleviathan: with top, I do not see high cpu or mem usage , it seems normal
[17:57] <JamieP> HI, with MySQL to get to prompt in Terminal I do $ mysql, but what if SQL is Oracle, how to start the prompt?
[17:57] <drleviathan> pratz, running lots of processes shouldn't slow the system down.  my laptop is currently running 199 distinct processes
[17:58] <Swap> Guys anybody here to help ? I have one query
[17:58] <sarger001> if you mean the area that says independant, yep, ticked
[17:58] <agnibha> JamieP: try $ORACLE_HOME/bin/sqlplus
[17:58] <sarger001> if not, nibbler i can always share desktops
[17:58] <pratz> drleviathan: hmm, i will try to remove unused packages first
[17:58] <sarger001> but i'll have to open a private window with you
[17:58] <drleviathan> pratz, did you perhaps enable fancy desktop graphical effects?  try disabling all eye candy in the desktop environment
[17:58] <drleviathan> if your graphics card can't do much hardware acceleration it can slow down your desktop
[17:59] <jstarcher> Hi, I created an updated PHP5 package for my Lucid system since the one in the repos is very old. Do I need to uninstall my existing package or can I upgrade the package to my deb?
[17:59] <pratz> drleviathan: personally i do not like fancy stuff, so graphical effect are already disabled
[17:59] <melodie> hi
[17:59] <drleviathan> ok pratz, I'm out of ideas.  Perhaps time to reinstall?  reinstallation is pretty fast.
[17:59] <drleviathan> just be sure to backup anything important
[17:59] <JamieP> agnibha: so sqlplus is the $ mysql equivalent for oracle?
[18:00] <agnibha> pretty much ya
[18:00] <pratz> drleviathan: ya, even I think so
[18:00] <insomniac_lemon> Last night Histo told me about piping output in terminal into a file. I t works on everything, except for certian applications (vlc, kazam) which it replaces the text with "extracting templates" or something, and add repos shows text with gpg and keyrings. Any way to fix this?
[18:00] <Swap> I have installed ubuntu in F:/ drive, F is seperate hard disk drive actually. I want to access files of the F:/ drive which were I made on windows, cant I access those on ubuntu ? I cant see that particular drive here on ubuntu
[18:01] <insomniac_lemon> To add, I'm using 1>/dev/null at the very end of commands
[18:01] <melodie> Swap is that with wubi ?
[18:01] <Swap> yes
[18:02] <insomniac_lemon> Swap, I noticed that, too, that windows files did not seem to be accessable with Wubi-Ubuntu
[18:02] <melodie> Swap this is perhaps not a very usual way of using ubuntu linux. have you looked if you can create a shared directory for both ?
[18:03] <Swap> have any solution ? is is only because of wubi ? how if I burn image in dvd and then install again ?
[18:03] <insomniac_lemon> Melodie, flash drive? :P
[18:03] <melodie> insomniac_lemon what do you mean ?
[18:03] <melodie> Swap try to look if you can create a shared directory between the two OS
[18:03] <insomniac_lemon> melodie, using a flash drive to share files between 2 operating systems.
[18:04] <trism> insomniac_lemon: are you trying to discard all the output? 1>/dev/null will only do stdout, so you'll still see stderr, something like &>/dev/null should kill everything
[18:04] <melodie> insomniac_lemon I was thinking of something a bit more direct, as the shared directory between two machines
[18:04] <Swap> I am not a geek. What should I do ?
[18:04] <Selfarian> hm... when i try to boot the mini image i got the error: Could not find kernel image: vesamenu.c32
[18:04] <Swap> can you please explain more
[18:05] <insomniac_lemon> Trism, is Extracting templates and repo keys part of stderr?
[18:05] <melodie> Swap you should seek for some docs related to wubi at the ubuntu ask place or at the wiki
[18:05] <melodie> does the ! commands work here ?
[18:05] <melodie> !wiki wubi
[18:05] <melodie> does not seem
[18:05] <sarger001> Wubi isn't even ubuntu, bro.
[18:05] <sarger001> Not in my eyes
[18:05] <sarger001> it's just a virtualbox running ubuntu
[18:06] <melodie> sarger001 it is provided in Ubuntu official distro
[18:06] <melodie> even not being a real os it should act as much as possible as one
[18:06] <sarger001> Meh
[18:06] <trism> insomniac_lemon: might be, it is up to the app where it writes (though usually stderr is reserved for errors and debugging information by convention)
[18:06] <melodie> meh quoi ?
[18:06] <melodie> :D
[18:06] <sarger001> anyway, can't find skype in software center
[18:06] <Swap> I will uninstall wubi and install by burning image but then can I access F:/ drive ? or better I create a seperate partition
[18:06] <sarger001> yes everything is ticked
[18:06] <insomniac_lemon> trism, thanks, I'll try it
[18:06] <sarger001> in software sorces
[18:06] <melodie> Swap don't start too fast without knowledge
[18:06] <jstarcher> Hi, I created an updated PHP5 package for my Lucid system since the one in the repos is very old. Do I need to uninstall my existing package or can I upgrade the package to my deb?
[18:07] <melodie> you could harm your operating system
[18:07] <cakeboss> Hey all. I am looking for a new OS and I was considering Ubuntu. Do you think that it would suffice for what I need to do on the computer?
[18:07] <crizis> depends what you need to do on the computer
[18:07] <melodie> Swap would you want to get links to a few docs ?
[18:07] <insomniac_lemon> cakeboss: such as?
[18:07] <Swap> yes, please
[18:07] <sarger001> Cake depends
[18:07] <Swap> it would be helpful
[18:07] <sarger001> i'll start a window with you
[18:07] <melodie> Swap I help you seek some
[18:07] <squig> im using preseed to install the system, I keep on hitting a question though "You chose not to install grub to any devices if you continue ...." any one knows what the option is to supress that or how i can figure it out ?
[18:07] <cakeboss> insomniac_lemon: mostly porn
[18:08] <cakeboss> lots and lots of porn
[18:08] <sarger001> Oh ok cake you can do that
[18:08] <insomniac_lemon> cakeboss: most likely then, yes
[18:08] <cakeboss> would it prevent me from catching many viruses?
[18:08] <sarger001> but seriously, switching a OS for PORN?
[18:08] <sarger001> SERIOUSLY?
[18:08] <cakeboss> well, I like to watch a lot of videos at once
[18:08] <sarger001> Well, yeah, but you gotta be wary still.
[18:08] <mdh> try pornos, it's great for hiding stuff
[18:08] <cakeboss> I heard that ubuntu is good with downloading more ram during updates
[18:08] <sarger001> Should protect you
[18:09] <sarger001> but seriously?
[18:09] <sarger001> PORN?
[18:09] <mdh> "pornOS"
[18:09] <sarger001> Out of all the reasons
[18:09] <insomniac_lemon> Haha
[18:09] <sarger001> you choose PORN
[18:09] <xangua> !language | sarger001 cakeboss
[18:09] <melodie> Swap you can start here, and read during as many days as necessary. then install Virtualbox to your Windows OS, and test installing in virtual machines. once you will have understood how to do that, try reformating your virtual hard drive and install on several partitions.
[18:09] <jpds> Guys.
[18:09] <cakeboss> xangua: is porn a bad word?
[18:09] <melodie> then you should be good to go. link here Swap https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[18:09] <jpds> !stop | cakeboss
[18:09] <DJones> cakeboss: Remember this channel is family friendly,
[18:10] <cakeboss> DJones: Sorry, so...does that mean Ubuntu is not porno friendly?
[18:10] <sarger001> ......
[18:10] <sarger001> Just download ubuntu for tux's sake
[18:10] <Swap> thanks a lot guys especially melodie. I must read deeply
[18:10] <Swap> :)
[18:10] <mdh> i like how it says someone leaves the channel volunarily when they are forcefully removed
[18:10] <melodie> Swap here gal, not guy ;)
[18:11] <sarger001> Cake, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[18:11] <IdleOne> sarger001: he's gone, please drop it.
[18:12] <sarger001> Ah he's gone
[18:12] <sarger001> ok
[18:12] <melodie> the bot is really funny
[18:12] <Swap> haha sorry dear, I dont get genders by names because I am not that much familiar with English names or even language
[18:12] <cakeboss> I don't understand, why was I banned?
[18:12] <melodie> ok, I have a hard quesiton. it is related to splash boot in Live CD's;
[18:12] <melodie> Swap my nick is French
[18:12] <cakeboss> or, erm. kicked rather
[18:12] <mdh> cakeboss: because mods silence dissidents
[18:13] <melodie> cakeboss probably because you are a bad boy ? :)
[18:13] <agnibha> lol
[18:13] <cakeboss> mdh: What is this, nazi germany?
[18:13] <insomniac_lemon> What is gnome-sound-recorder's package name? Oddly enough it doesn't seem to be that.
[18:13] <melodie> cakeboss this is a help chan and there are rules
[18:13] <Swap> umm I dont get that too..I am indian :O
[18:13] <sarger001> Cake, i'll take this to private discussion
[18:13] <mdh> cakeboss: just politically correct irc
[18:13] <DJones> cakeboss: Stop the attitude
[18:14] <melodie> ok does someone have information on how to tweak the files in : source package gfxboot-theme-ubuntu : please ?
[18:14] <insomniac_lemon> Trism: it didn't seem to work. In fact, a bunch of things broke
[18:15] <trism> insomniac_lemon: going to have to be more specific
[18:15] <melodie> is it allowed to recruit for testing some ubuntu derivated spin here ?
[18:15] <melodie> :)
[18:16] <sarger001> Getting happy over next version of ubuntu
[18:16] <parallel21> How might I go about updateing php to something greater than 5.3.10?
[18:16] <sarger001> haps
[18:16] <sarger001> haps
[18:16] <FloodBot1> sarger001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <thejaimes111> Hi, Im having problems with lag on ubuntu 12.04, and i idk why, i googled it and it seems that is a problem of my RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO], someone knows how can i run ubuntu smooth on my pc?
[18:16] <sarger001> Oh wow
[18:16] <prayas> hey guys
[18:16] <sarger001> ok mr bot
[18:17] <sarger001> Right, serious help needed
[18:17] <jpds> parallel21: On 12.04 LTS?
[18:17] <insomniac_lemon> trism: the first thing that went wrong was that it could not get an administrative lock for dpkg, but I'll try it again to make sure changing the piping was the issue
[18:17] <melodie> thejaimes111 have you looked how much ram is used and how much is left ? if swap partition is used or not at all ?
[18:17] <thejaimes111> melodie ram seems to be ok, i created a swap partition too, but lag is still here...
[18:18] <parallel21> jpds: yes
[18:18] <pawel_> Hello :D
[18:18] <servvs> I am having issues with connecting to a vpn via sstp. I have the packages sstp-client and networ-manager-sstp installed but it doesn't show up in my network manager list, how could I go abut getting this to work?
[18:19] <jpds> parallel21: You don't, unless you want an unsupported platform. You'd have to compile it yourself or find unsupported .deb packages.
[18:20] <melodie> thejaimes111 would you start a talk in private ? it's difficult to follow with so many people talking at same time
[18:20] <parallel21> jpds: I just wanted to confirm I must compile from source. Thank ya
[18:20] <thejaimes111> melodie ok np :D thx
[18:21] <insomniac_lemon> trism: yeah, using &> to pipe broke it. Repos don't add right and the install commands I added it to show full output
[18:22] <PeterP> HI, in MySQL if I have '  `id` int NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,' will the first number be 1?
[18:22] <squig> does any one know if I can tell the ubuntu server install to never prompt for questions?
[18:22] <trism> insomniac_lemon: what is the exact command
[18:22] <sencillos001> !list
[18:23] <insomniac_lemon> trism, here's one: sudo apt-get install -y vlc &>~/Documents/errlogg.txt
[18:23] <insomniac_lemon> trism, note it works fine if the & is a 1
[18:25] <trism> insomniac_lemon: and what shell? I think &> is bash specific, so if not bash you'd need say: 2>&1 to redirect stderr to stdout
[18:26] <insomniac_lemon> trism: not sure, just basic terminal in Ubuntu.... but I'll try that
[18:26] <buffymcmuffy> what is the keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> !it | sencillos001
[18:26] <trism> insomniac_lemon: though, all apt-get commands are logged, so you don't really need the errlog.txt file, /var/log/apt/history.log for what was installed and /var/log/apt/term.log for the output during installation
[18:27] <sruli> Hi everyone
[18:27] <PeterP> HI, in MySQL if I have '  `id` int NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,' will the first number be 1?
[18:27] <insomniac_lemon> trism: I just did that so I could easily check it to see what's going on. when I get it working fully I'll replace it with /dev/null
[18:28] <sruli> looking to change one of my customers from windows to ubuntu (done it to many in the past) this customer needs Property (real estate) management software, any one knows which are good or where is the best place to find?
[18:28] <trism> insomniac_lemon: if it's bash it just worked fine here with &>/dev/null, you sure you don't have another package manager running in the background?
[18:30] <insomniac_lemon> trism, no, in fact fresh install on a VM, nothing but FF, nautilus, and the script running.
[18:30] <insomniac_lemon> trism, although I did not add the first line to define bash
[18:30] <sencillos001>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/fabiano/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_5141.query
[18:32] <insomniac_lemon> trism: trying it now
[18:33] <BluesKaj> sencillos001, where do you guys in Italy get the idea that ubuntu's are irc warez and music download source channels
[18:35] <sencillos001> BluesKaj i'm not looking for music
[18:35] <insomniac_lemon> trism, > ~/Documents/errlogg.txt 2>&1 worked! Thanks!
[18:35] <sruli> looking to change one of my customers from windows to ubuntu (done it to many in the past) this customer needs Property (real estate) management software, any one knows which are good or where is the best place to find?
[18:35] <sencillos001> i don't know how does irc works
[18:36] <BluesKaj> sencillos001,, no matter , we see a few of these !list commands everyday from Italians ...why is that ?
[18:37] <sencillos001> is the first time with xchat in linux for me
[18:37] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, that bodus script sounds like a filesharing dcc tool. i never discovered any channel with filesharing on freenode.
[18:37] <verzx> !help
[18:37] <sencillos001> i'm looking for a xchat guide
[18:37] <verzx> !patience
[18:37] <TheLordOfTime> sencillos001, you may want to start in #xchat
[18:38] <Burritoh> sencillos001: are you looking for a general guide to IRC, or just to the xChat client?
[18:38] <verzx> irssi, is self explanatory i'd recommend that. Looks cool too.
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> sencillos001, but Burritoh brings up a valid point: do you want help with the IRC client or just a general guide to IRC?
[18:39] <sencillos001> irc client
[18:41] <sencillos001> http://xdcc_58
[18:44] <agnibha> sencillos001: lol why not try with a lightweight first? chatzilla add-on for firefox works just fine...
[18:44] <Burritoh> he left already, but good suggestion :V
[18:45] <robert45> hi guys, is it possible to add the "up route add -net .." command inside /etc/network/interfaces outside the interface setup? ie: At the very top of the file?
[18:47] <sonOfRa> How can I change the default graphical editor on ubuntu? Is there a way similar to update-alternatives --config editor?
[18:49] <insomniac_lemon> Ok, so far, my script is almost done. The only thing is, why does it ask me for my password again when I get to adding repos?
[18:51] <insomniac_lemon> trism, why does it ask of my password again to add repos?
[18:51] <trism> insomniac_lemon: are you using sudo inside the script?
[18:52] <insomniac_lemon> trism, oh wait, I forgot to add -y to 2 of my commands.....
[18:52] <sruli> looking to change one of my customers from windows to ubuntu (done it to many in the past) this customer needs Property (real estate) management software, any one knows which are good or where is the best place to find?
[18:53] <maxkollide> Hey, um.... So I have a really weird problem where my Ubuntu box completely locks up (freezes) sometimes. Does anyone know where I should go/who I should talk to about this? I'd file a bug report only I have absolutely no clue what's going on when it freezes.
[18:56] <galestro> ciao
[18:56] <galestro> !list
[18:59] <bytesaber> how do I tell ubuntu to boot only to runelvel 3?   i don't know how to work with upstart
[18:59] <Ronalds_M> anybody uses awesome
[18:59] <Ronalds_M> I need somebody to check for mistake in my config file
[19:00] <trism> bytesaber: are you looking to boot into text mode (without a display manager starting?)
[19:00] <Ronalds_M> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5585932/ here is my config
[19:00] <trism> !runlevels | bytesaber
[19:01] <Ronalds_M> please provide any any information where could be mistake
[19:01] <scoob> If I'm on 64bit, is there a reason a binary (ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, not stripped
[19:01] <scoob> ) would fail to run?
[19:01] <scoob> Just gives me no such file or directory
[19:03] <maxkollide> Hey, um.... So I have a really weird problem where my Ubuntu box completely locks up (freezes) only sometimes and mostly at random. Does anyone know where I should go/who I should talk to about this? I'd file a bug report only I have absolutely no clue what's going on when it freezes or what causes the problem.
[19:04]  * gde33 please pm some feedback on my code highligher. Thank you. http://js.go-here.nl/code%20highlighter%20b.html
[19:04] <selena2013> mine constantly freezes too
[19:04] <selena2013> maxkollide
[19:05] <scoob> It's a new box - 'sudo apt-get install libc6-i386' fixed it.
[19:06] <maxkollide> selena2013: Does that mean it's a known problem? Cuz I'm either looking for a fix, or I'd be willing to do some debug work if I knew where to start.
[19:06] <maxkollide> But I don't even really know where to start looking since it seems like the whole box goes down
[19:07] <BluesKaj> try /var/log/syslog , selena2013 if you can mange to stay "up" long enough
[19:09] <maxkollide> BluesKaj: Check this file after it's crashed? Or after booting into the system again? Or what?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> maxkollide, yes, but after booting again the errors might be logged in syslog1
[19:12] <maxkollide> BluesKaj: Hm.... The end of syslog1 shows the correct time for the freeze, around a few minutes ago, but all it's got is a lot of wifi info messages and no errors.
[19:15] <Ronalds_M> btw
[19:15] <Ronalds_M> I have problem that pcmanfm doesn't opens without sudo
[19:15] <Ronalds_M> why the f it stays as background client I can't open
[19:16] <bekks> Ronalds_M: Because you should use gksudo instead of sudo for graphical applications.
[19:16] <Ronalds_M> ooo
[19:16] <Ronalds_M> why I need sudo at all
[19:16] <Ronalds_M> ?
[19:16] <Ronalds_M> it's file manager
[19:16] <bekks> Why do you use sudo then if you dont need it?
[19:19] <ubuntuu> hi, hey does anyone know about ircd hybrid ? cant get it work
[19:19] <agnibha> Ronalds_M: you need sudo becoz u r accessing something ur user has no access to, so u r piggybacking superuser
[19:21] <Ronalds_M> can't I make pcmanfm to open without gksudo?
[19:22] <bekks> Ronalds_M: What are you trying to do with your filemanager?
[19:22] <Ronalds_M> problem is in awesome menu, gksudo pcmanfm ~/. doesn't do anything
[19:23] <bekks> Ronalds_M: Why do you want to start pcmanfm as root user?
[19:23] <t_> Does anyone here have a Fujitsu Lifebook AH532? If so, does your brightness adjustment buttons work?
[19:23] <Ronalds_M> cause it doesn't starts like normal user
[19:23] <Ronalds_M> I was saying that is first place
[19:23] <dawn> hi
[19:24] <bekks> Ronalds_M: You could start pcmanfm as user from a terminal, and maybe you can see some more messages
[19:24] <Ronalds_M> I tried
[19:24] <Ronalds_M> nothing shows
[19:24] <lifebird64> grep '[A-Z][[:space:]]*[0-9]'
[19:24] <Ronalds_M> in terminal it goes to to next empty line
[19:24] <lifebird64> why doesn't this work?
[19:25] <lifebird64> whereas grep '[A-Z]' or grep '[[:space:]]' work on their own just fine.
[19:26] <agnibha> lifebird64: try egrep
[19:26] <lifebird64> thx
[19:27] <khamer> Is there a way to startup a second instance/window of GVIM using Unity?
[19:28] <agnibha> Ronalds_M: this might help .. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide
[19:28] <khamer> Er, a second window from the icon instead of from Dash
[19:30] <insomniac_lemon> trism: now everything works, only it asks for the password near adding repos even though it's already granted access..... adding -y didn't fix it
[19:31] <lauratika> the icon in home folder icon change, on unity bar i mean now it looks like a cabinet. how to bring back the old icon of home folder?
[19:31] <toter> ubuntu remix 12.10.1 does not boot after apt-get upgrade… it hangs when loading gnome
[19:31] <toter> :(
[19:32] <maxkollide> khamer: Like, just start another instance of the application?
[19:34] <lifebird64> got it... was trying to build a regexp to validate postal codes... $ grep '[A-Za-z][0-9][A-Za-z][ ]*[0-9][A-Za-z][0-9]'
[19:34] <trism> insomniac_lemon: are you using sudo inside the script, or running the whole script with sudo? I would recommend the latter, otherwise if the install takes long enough sudo may prompt again
[19:35] <insomniac_lemon> trism: I'm using sudo inside the script (so I don't need to execute it from terminal), but it uses sudo enough that is shouldn't ask again.
[19:37] <trism> insomniac_lemon: doesn't matter how much it is used, matters how long between prompting for a password
[19:37] <^p> fuck
[19:37] <lauratika> ?
[19:38] <jaequery> hi, im trying to connect to other server via SSH w/ pubkey, but I'm getting back error message :Permission denied (publickey).   any idea why?   i've done the same approach to other servers and can connect fine, but just this one particular server, is keep giving back that error.
[19:38] <insomniac_lemon> trism, is there a way I can renew it during one of the times I used sudo? I though I had done that once, but I don't remember what flag or if it will actually work
[19:39] <trism> insomniac_lemon: not that I know of
[19:41] <insomniac_lemon> trism, one last thing (probably) is there a command I can use to keep the terminal open indefinitely after completing a script? being a usable shell is not necessary, just not closing
[19:41] <maxkollide> insomniac_lemon: I'm pretty sure the only flags that are like that are -k for killing the sudo session (making it read the password again) and -s, which will make sudo try to read the password from stdin
[19:42] <sloucher> 12.04 uses acceleration and therefore a decent video card is needed? That's why many computer run slower then they did with 10.04? Is this right?
[19:42] <trism> insomniac_lemon: the trick I usually use is something like: gnome-terminal -x bash -c 'command; bash'; not really pretty but it works
[19:43] <ero-jiji> morning all
[19:43] <agnibha> jaequery: debug it using ssh -v also check the permission of ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:44] <jaequery> im the client
[19:44] <jaequery> btw
[19:45] <jaequery> i dont have control over the host
[19:45] <jaequery> just trying to see if issue is on my end or on the hosts end
[19:46] <BluesKaj> sloucher, depends on your graphics settings , video acceleration has to be enabled , it's not on by default afaik
[19:46] <BluesKaj> sloucher, and whether your gpu is so equipped
[19:46] <trism> insomniac_lemon: or if you didn't want a shell: gnome-terminal -x bash -c 'command; read -p "Press [ENTER] to continue"'
[19:48] <insomniac_lemon> trism, doesn't that close the current terminal and open a new one?
[19:48] <insomniac_lemon> trism I've already tried read -n 1 -p "press any key to exit" but for some reason it doesn't work in the script
[19:50] <zAo^2> Is there a Mir channel?
[19:50] <m1dlg> My current problem looks like this. can anyone help me through this last bit. I've gotten nowhere today..http://imagebin.org/248948
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> m1dlg: please pastebin your sources.list
[19:52] <insomniac_lemon> trism, will sudo -v extend the time needed before the password needs to be entered again?
[19:52] <m1dlg> I'm on a different PC, I'll have to hand type them
[19:52] <m1dlg> I'm in recovery shell on the duff pc
[19:53] <rabiul> hii
[19:53] <jaequery> hi
[19:53] <rabiul> any body here?
[19:54] <Guest4104> hello
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> !pastebinit
[19:55] <trism> insomniac_lemon: I have no idea, though the manpage would seem to support that thought
[19:55] <m1dlg> wow, thanks jhutchins_wk I never knew that was that easy lol
[19:56] <trism> insomniac_lemon: and about the gnome-terminal command, the idea is you create your launcher to run that instead of the script directly, since if the use ran it from the terminal, you necessarily want the script prompting at the end or running a new shell
[19:57] <trism> insomniac_lemon: err I meant if 'the user ran it' and 'you wouldn't necessarily'
[19:57] <_raven> lxde - how to share internet connection?
[19:58] <DR01D-Engineer> im trying to setup apache. iv installed it and added a <VirtualHost 127.0.1.1> containing document root pointing to my website's files, but in my browser http://mysite, says page not found. what else do i need to do?
[19:58] <PlastikSpork> After installing Teamviewer8 on 12.04 auto hide Launcher will not reappear plus the touch pad is really sensitive and I do not have touchpad options under mouse settings anymore.
[19:59] <DR01D-Engineer> is httpd.conf(which was empty after i installed apache) included by default? or i need to include it via apache2.conf
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> DR01D-Engineer: 127.0.1.1 is not a conventional address.
[20:00] <insomniac_lemon> trism, so I think I found a way to stall it at the end using read and some sort of string
[20:00] <insomniac_lemon> and then you press enter and it gets past it
[20:01] <DR01D-Engineer> i thought 127.0.1.1 is default local ip?
[20:01] <DR01D-Engineer> my terminal output says apache is using 127.0.1.1 for servername
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> Check ifconfig.
[20:01] <Nedz> Hi , I'm trying to mount a shared folder , when using sudo mount I can ls the mounted folder contents just fine ( I can see the share) but when I'm trying to browse the folder with my local user I get premission denied. already tried to chown to my user, any Ideas ?
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> DR01D-Engineer: 127.0.0.1 is the standard address.  1.1 is not usually available.
[20:02] <PlastikSpork> After installing Teamviewer8 on 12.04 auto hide Launcher will not reappear plus the touch pad is really sensitive and I do not have touchpad options under mouse settings anymore. I removed Teamviewer 8 and autoremoved any unused packages... this didn't fix the problem. can anyone help me with this please.
[20:03] <wonderworld> hi, i want to automatically open picasa3 when a sd-card is inserted. my ubuntu now opens shotwell instead. how could i change the behaviour?
[20:05] <m1dlg> jhutchins_wk: I think my PC is in a bad way - I cannot resolve any sources to even get pastebinit unless I am doing it all wrong.
[20:05] <m1dlg> I take that back
[20:06] <SnapSnap> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, with full disk encryption. I'm wondering if syncing with Ubuntu One undermines the security provided by full-disk encryption.
[20:06] <manu__> Anybody have deep knowledge in cups ??
[20:07] <llutz> SnapSnap: does ubuntu-one encrypt data?
[20:07] <SnapSnap> llutz, I'm not sure. That was my concern
[20:10] <llutz> SnapSnap: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/what-security-and-privacy-policies-does-ubuntu-one-have/
[20:10] <llutz> SnapSnap: they don't so the answer to your question is: yes
[20:10] <Moviuro> Hi all! Is there a HOWTO to create a USB key with ubuntu on it, to boot on a MacBook Pro with Retina? (the very latest ones)
[20:11] <m1dlg> blasted internet. dropped off!
[20:11] <m1dlg> !pastebinit
[20:13] <insomniac_lemon> trism, "read <string>" works, but sudo -v does not seem to, even though searching seems to indicate that it extends the time before you need to enter a password again. It doesn't even seem like I should even need to do this, I think it doesn't even take 5-10 minutes to the point that it asks
[20:15] <DarkHalo> if i'm doing an svn checkout, does it matter what directory i download it to?
[20:15] <trism> insomniac_lemon: out of curiosity, which command is prompting later in the script, and is it always the same one?
[20:15] <verzx> I'm getting 1mbp/s connection, yet on Windows I get 8mbp/s what's that about? Driver = rtl8192ce and Adapter = RTL8188CE
[20:15] <bean_work> DarkHalo: that's not really a question.... it only matters if you want to keep your stuff organized.
[20:16] <DarkHalo> well I get an error when compiling it
[20:16] <DarkHalo> and it's frustrating because I follow the instructions to the leter
[20:16] <DarkHalo> letter*
[20:16] <inedit00> hi there
[20:16] <insomniac_lemon> trism, yes, it's one of it's either sudo apt-add-repository -y or sudo apt-key add - (but that could just be because the timing is the same)
[20:17] <BluesKaj> DarkHalo, as long as you compile within the same dir as the file is located then you shouldn't have problem with location
[20:19] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, thank you for your help. Does this help at all? http://pastebin.com/8g691yAr
[20:20] <PlastikSpork> I am having problems with my touchpad on my laptop running 12.04... Touchpad is very sensitive, tap to click doesnt work anymore and also the touchpad options under mouse settings have disappeared.
[20:20] <DarkHalo> the instructions say to compile then ./configure but it will not let me configure because it says i have to make it first. which i did and get that error
[20:22] <BluesKaj> DarkHalo, find the readme file , it should give you some help about the compile sequence, but afaik ./configure is usually the first command
[20:23] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, Well I've looked at every readme file and it directs me to the page i am on. So i might have to  see if there is any way i can contact the devs
[20:24] <BluesKaj> DarkHalo, what are you trying to compile?
[20:25] <DarkHalo> http://bit.ly/13AFWrG
[20:25] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, this is the tutorial ^^^
[20:27] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, I've installed all prereqs with apt-get but when i go to compile the program, it doesn't work
[20:28] <BluesKaj> DarkHalo, what's the file extension the actual application?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> of
[20:29] <zerick> Hi guys, is it possible to determine if a package was installed as a dependency for other primary package?
[20:29] <trism> DarkHalo: do you have libcv-dev installed? based on a quick apt-file search that's where /usr/include/opencv/cv.h is
[20:29] <kent_> hi there. Im on a wireless 3g modem internet,  is there some plugins for the unity desktop to show live date from the network in the top panel? Like, download speed etc?
[20:29] <DarkHalo> trism, yes i did install them. i'll dbl check
[20:31] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, I think I may have figured it out
[20:32] <BluesKaj> ok DarkHalo , good because I just recieved a call , I have to leave for a while .
[20:32] <DarkHalo> BluesKaj, Thanks for the help! I'll be on in a bit as well
[20:32] <iceroot> zerick: "aptitude why packagename"
[20:32] <iceroot> zerick: imo that was the correct command (but i dont have aptitude installed at the moment)
[20:33] <LordDeath> is ubuntu keeping a local cache of its .deb files?
[20:33] <LordDeath> and is there a way to remove them?
[20:33] <llutz> LordDeath: apt-get clean
[20:33] <iceroot> DarkHalo: you used apt-get build-dep foobar and then "dpkg -rfakeroot in the source-package-dir?
[20:33] <LordDeath> llutz: thx
[20:40] <m1dlg> I cant remember who was trying to help just before my browser went on this PC, but after much flaffing about i got this using pastebinit. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5586183/
[20:40] <tama_> Hello. I tried to install libgtk2.0-dev using  sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev, but its said E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. How can I fix this?
[20:41] <labsin> tama: what do you get with `apt-get update`
[20:41] <tama_> labsin, all clear. Fetched 72 B in 5s (12 B/s)
[20:41] <tama_> Reading package lists... Done
[20:41] <labsin> *apt-get upgrade
[20:42] <tama_> oh, I see.
[20:42] <Izzo> tama_, try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:42] <tama_> Should I update it first Izzo?
[20:43] <tama_> because ive tried that and still unable to install libgtk
[20:43] <Izzo> try apt-get update first yes
[20:45] <spason> ikonia, come in, over.
[20:46] <spason> Need help with airport card in powerpc Powerbook G4.  Don't know how to make that work.
[20:48] <spason> Anyone?
[20:48] <drleviathan> just curious: ubuntu hasn't supported G4 in a long time.  You running debian powerpc?
[20:49] <drleviathan> dunno how to help, the wireless just worked for my old G4...
[20:49] <drleviathan> the last time I installed debian-powerpc
[20:50] <spason> well, i have been trying to put ubuntu on it, but it has been stalling at 67%, so it was suggested that the disc was bad.  i put debian on just to make sure the computer wasn't messed up, and that worked (minus the airport wireless).  now i am putting ubuntu back on it, and hoping it will make it through the whole installation.  i read that the same problem exists in ubuntu, so i am here for help while it installs.
[20:51] <spason> Something about broadcom and non-free drivers.  But I am a noob, and am not familiar with getting packages etc.  i was hoping it would just work.  :)
[20:52] <drleviathan> yeah, as I recall the last ubuntu support for powerpc did not support the broadcom wireless
[20:53] <spason> but there is a way on www.kernel.org, but i don't know how it all works.
[20:53] <spason> i haven't done terminal-type things since dos 3.0
[20:54] <spason> i'm sorry i did not mention this is 10.04, which was suggested as best for ppc
[20:54] <drleviathan> google is probably your friend in this case, although maybe someone here remembers how to set up a broadcom card on ubuntu 10.X
[20:54] <spason> i am crosseyed from googlez.  I swear I have done my best, I just need someone to tell me how to do it.
[20:56] <drleviathan> spason, my solution back in the day was to just use an orinoco-gold PCMCIA card
[20:56] <drleviathan> which just worked whenever I plugged it in
[20:56] <spason> It's a powerbook
[20:56] <drleviathan> the orinoco-gold was one of the better supported cards
[20:57] <spason> i guess i have the b43?
[20:57] <drleviathan> right, PCMCIA is the slot on the side (left, I think)
[20:57] <spason> b43 broadcom
[20:57] <bean__> http://www.jeremymorgan.com/tutorials/linux/how-to-wireless-networking-linux-ppc-powerbook-g4/
[20:57] <bean__> that seems to say how to do it
[20:57] <drleviathan> old laptops would accept a card that could slide into the side
[20:57] <bean__> b43 cutter
[20:57] <spason> bean: he's the guy that got me into this mess in the first place!!
[20:57] <philipp_> hello
[20:57] <spason> dr: lemme go look.
[20:59] <spason> bean:  kudos!  That's the ticket.  Love me some jeremy morgan.
[20:59] <escott> drleviathan, i still have one of those cards... not sure why i kept it
[20:59] <spason> my powerbook doesn't have a pcmcia slot
[21:00] <spason> it's got a modem, ethernet, 2 usb, a video and a firewire
[21:01] <drleviathan> spason, I find that hard to believe, since I had a G4 powerbook myself, but I'll take your word for it.
[21:01] <action09> hi, i've some freeze on 12.04 til today..virtualbox/ubuntu updates.. no clue..
[21:01] <drleviathan> the pcmcia slot has a little spring loaded cover
[21:02] <spason> dr: i'll take a photo if you want!  :)  Hey is there a book you folks would recommend for a newbie to get acclimated to linux?
[21:02] <action09> some repos ignored.. i dunno why :(
[21:05] <drleviathan> spason, here is a G4 powerbook for sale that has lots of photos.  The pcmcia slot is visible on the left side, forward of the audio phone jack:
[21:05] <spason> or a tutorial on the web that isn't mind-numbing.  I'm reconsidering my switch to linux.  I can get into tech stuff and get a certain buzz from terminal commands etc, but when it all comes down to it i just want everything to be simple.  Like mac.
[21:05] <drleviathan> http://www.lionoutlet.com/CheapPowerbookG4Laptop15inchWideScreen.htm
[21:05] <esing> I installed ubuntu in efi mode, and it created an grub2 efi partition for me automatically. Now I want to add an efi boot entry for windows 8.  How do I add that for grub2?
[21:06] <qwefqf3> tu
[21:06] <qwefqf3> hi there
[21:06] <digitalmetis> my compiz magic lamp doesn't work, but wobbily windows do.
[21:06] <spason> doc, yup!  I don't have that- but I have a lot of other ones instead.  Can I put a picture on here?
[21:06] <whzhang> where is Jack Yu
[21:06] <OerHeks> spason, http://ubuntu-manual.org/  and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ is a good start
[21:07] <spason> Thanks oer
[21:07] <acidburnsn0w> Hey all
[21:07] <spason> Very excited- first time ubuntu has made it past 67% install.
[21:14] <tekk> would you say this guide is still ok for ubuntu 12.10? http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2830
[21:14] <tekk> i'm not sure how grub has changed on 12.10
[21:16] <daze> Application icons in Unity panel 'systray' get cropped and are unevenly spaced. Modern 'indicators' are ok, but old-style 'tray icons' (skype, pidgin, xchat) are improperly sized, thus they get cropped about a pixel from each side and spacing between them is very small compared to the 'modern indicators'. I suspect it's hardcoded somewhere inside the Unity panel, isn't it? :/
[21:17] <spason> oerhek: that's exactly what i was looking for.  thanks.
[21:18] <Maccer> Hey guys, in ubuntu raring... what happened? Pulseaudio and jack no longer fight each other! This is crazy!
[21:20] <vooze> Maccer: #ubuntu+1
[21:21] <Maccer> vooze: You don't understand my excitement. :'( Okay, perhaps you do. It was just an outburst.
[21:21] <pa> hello
[21:22] <vooze> Maccer: yeah, I just realised after :D
[21:22] <bean__> Maccer: this is a support channel
[21:22] <bean__> so
[21:22] <pa> is there any ubuntu dev in here?
[21:22] <pa> i would like to propose a project, but i need some help
[21:22] <Maccer> #ubuntu-devel but it's probably not what you're looking for
[21:22] <OerHeks> !brainstorm | pa
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: I wanna hear it, though
[21:23] <pa> ok
[21:23] <pa> i can briefly explain
[21:23] <pa> so
[21:23] <pa> there is a bunch of software that helps organizing pictures, and add xmp tags to them (even if there's no software i really like)
[21:24] <pa> however, i havent found anything to do the same to documents (pdf/djvu/ps/etc)
[21:24] <bambam> hey how can i install software from folder ?
[21:24] <bambam> total blackout
[21:24] <bambam> :D
[21:24] <pa> so i was thinking of a solution that would essentially integrate into nautilus
[21:25] <action09> re
[21:25] <pa> basically 2 things: a nautilus extension, that add a column and shows whether a file contains at least a tag or not
[21:25] <action09> damn i have total freeze something like 993187... any clue please ?
[21:25] <action09> nothing weird in logs.
[21:25] <pa> and a little application that can be used to open certain files (even multiple selections), and spawns a gui where one can tag the selection
[21:26] <pa> of course this little application has to keep a database of the tags for a directory tree and so on
[21:26] <pa> but these are secondary things
[21:26] <pa> ntzrmtthihu777,  doesnt it sound interesting?
[21:27] <bambam> hey cmon guys
[21:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience > bambam
[21:29] <bambam> simple question. what is command to install something from folder you just downloaded
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Was it an archive of some sort? Things barely come in flat folders these days
[21:29] <R00tByte>  rozynha:**********************************
[21:30] <bambam> archive i unrar
[21:30] <rozynha> Oieee
[21:30] <aJacom> if i install lubuntu instead of ubuntu will i be able to run all the applications or will i have a reduced number of options?
[21:30] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica: yes, archive. and not it is extract to folder
[21:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: interesting idea
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Unless it's a .deb package, you need to extract it,  cd  to the folder and then executable whatever's executable
[21:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> I wish there was more customizaton to user-dirs.dirs in .config
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: *execute whatever's executable
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> aJacom: lubuntu comes with its own sorts of applications different than ubuntu, but you should be able to do all the same/similar things
[21:32] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  and put it where ?
[21:32] <pa> i think tagging pdf is probably even more important than tagging pictures
[21:33] <pa> since pictures can be easily thumbnailed
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> aJacom: I was testing lubuntu via usb a while back, its comparable to normal ubuntu
[21:33] <pa> and visualized in groups
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Anywhere, but the best place is where the archive wound up so you know where it is.
[21:33] <aJacom> ntzrmtthihu777, gohst, my question comes because i know there are some applications built for gnome, and lubuntu uses lxde
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: you can thumbnail pdf's too
[21:34] <pa> well yes, but still you dont really know what's in there most of the times
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> aJacom: At the very least, you shouldn't have any problems with GTK+ apps
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> aJacom: because LXDE is GTK+ based
[21:35] <leshaste> I want to set up a dlna server... I just installed mediatomb but I can't see even how to say which directory has the mp3s. How do you do that?
[21:35] <Pici> pa: #ubuntu is for support only, not for making suggestions.  I believe  that the brainstorm link was alerady provided to you.
[21:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: not that its a bad Idea
[21:35] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  trying to install this http://sockso.pu-gh.com/
[21:35] <aJacom> alright, nice, thanks
[21:35] <Reme> hello, where does ubuntu 12.04 store the current wallpaper file? can't find it anywhere
[21:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Reme: you can change it with a rightclick on desktop, or do you want to modify it?
[21:37] <fas> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my headphone jack working
[21:37] <fas> The sound mixer shows it has volume
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: OK, so extract it,  cd  to the folder you extracted the stuff in from terminal and then run  ./linux.sh
[21:37] <fas> I'm on 12.04
[21:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Reme: try /usr/share/backgrounds/
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: (You may need to  chmod +x  the file to make it executable)
[21:38] <action09> anyone has some recent knowledge of a freeze bug on 12.04 please ? i left my Ubuntu for the weekend, come back and it freeze not several times, nothing in the logs.. i only found this post: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg4001244.html
[21:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> or do sh ./linux.sh
[21:39] <m1dlg> I've achieved a normal text login prompt so I'm out of rescue shell now :) but can't start X, my log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5586338/ and my conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5586348/ Whats wrong still?
[21:39] <marcs1989> Hello. For some reason I can't get \a to work in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:39] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  linux.sh    cant access
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Where did you extract the archive?
[21:40] <bambam> ./downloads
[21:40] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  where should i ?
[21:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> bambam: does not matter where, as long as you are there
[21:41] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah its on /downloads folder
[21:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> cd ~/Downloads
[21:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> unzip *.zip
[21:41] <pa> Pici, by the way, brainstorm.ubuntu.com seems pretty terrible.. nothing personal eh.
[21:42] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah
[21:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> cd "whatever folder is made"
[21:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> ls
[21:42] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  yes.. im there but what then ?
[21:42] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  when it is extact
[21:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> bambam: you cd'ed into the new folder?
[21:42] <kprabhakar> prabhakar
[21:43] <action09> marcs1989 doing a   "\a"  ?  with Alt Gr +a ?
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !hi | kprabhakar
[21:43] <action09> marcs1989 doing  with the keyboard \a i meant..
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Funny, that works in #xubuntu
[21:44] <Physicist> I still having problem with fglrx driver on kubuntu.. How can I fix it?
[21:44] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  yes im in folder all the time.. question is what should i do next ??
[21:44] <josef__> Hi. Is there a way to have the launcher span from absolute top-left, so that I get the close-button, menu etc lining up with the app-window?
[21:44] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  how to install it
[21:44] <marcs1989> action09 No, I'm doing print('\a') in a .py program
[21:44] <Physicist> Nothing works when I try install fglrx drivers..
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> do ls and see what files are there
[21:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> bambam: do ls and see what files are there
[21:45] <bambam> ntzrmtthihu777:  icons  linux.sh  README.txt  Run Sockso.lnk  sockso.jar  windows.bat lib    log       resources   scripts         ssl
[21:45] <DR01D-Engineer> are all of the fonts that come with Ubuntu GPL? meaning free to use for commercial logos/graphics etc
[21:46] <Physicist> Any idea about how can I delete everything and install a new driver?
[21:46] <action09> marcs1989  ah.. it's more python related so.. i see these links: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4467240/play-simple-beep-with-python-without-external-library
[21:46] <AndreiHk`> Hey, can somebody help me with installing CGI IRC chat on my vps ? , OR where should i go to ask for help ?
[21:46] <marcs1989> action09 Thanks!
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: So now, run  ./linux.sh
[21:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> bambam: read README.txt
[21:47] <m1dlg> !nvidia
[21:47] <action09> marcs1989  something related to visual bell maybe good luck  ;) python powah !  :)
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Do what ntzrmtthihu777 said first!!
[21:47] <bambam> theres no info
[21:47] <servvs> I am having issues getting my system to connect to an sstp vpn, I have the installed programs but it is not appearing in network-manager-gnome
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Are you sure?  gedit README.txt
[21:47] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  if you mean that linux.sh it says access denied
[21:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> bambam: chmod +x linux.sh
[21:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ./linux.sh
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam ^ Run that after you chmod
[21:49] <bambam> SonikkuAmerica:  yeah now there is happening something
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam: Good, it should be running the script.
[21:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> trying to compile a program in gcc, but it cannot find usb.h
[21:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> locate usb.h shows I do have it.
[21:50] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Is it in the proximity of the .c file?
[21:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> no.
[21:52] <servvs> I am having issues getting my system to connect to an sstp vpn, I have the installed programs but it is not appearing in network-manager-gnome
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Then where is it? It should be in the same folder as the .c file, unless you explicity wrote code that says it's somewhere else.
[21:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> it is in my /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-25-generic/include/ in various subfolders
[21:53] <action09> ok so now system is stable, but can't reach several repos: extras.ubuntu.com ignored dl.google.com stable/main Ognored too.. any help ? :)
[21:53] <cat_> Hi guys - I'm having trouble creating a bootable cd (note, not dvd) of 12.10 on windows 7.
[21:53] <cat_> Is 12.10 still able to fit on a cd  ?
[21:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: use the windows program burn cdcc
[21:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: how big is the iso?
[21:53] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Then there should be a line in preprocessor that says [ #include "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-25-generic/include/usb.h" ] IIRC
[21:53] <spason> Bean, yous till here?
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Or wherever it happens to be
[21:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: well that is irritating. other projects, I ust gotta do #include <foo.h>
[21:54] <cat_> Ah, it seems that this cd is too small. Is there a minimal size version of ubuntu that could be used as a live cd ?
[21:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: alternate install
[21:55] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: It seems that the iso is too large
[21:55] <spason> I just put 10.04 on a ppc powerbook g4, and it worked.  When i updated the driver for the wireless card, after i rebooted, the screen is blank.  but it made the drumming sound etc, and i think loaded correctly.  I just can't see it.  Anyone know what i can do?
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: If it's <foo.h> that's typically because it's in the standard C function set.
[21:55] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks, will give it a go
[21:55] <DR01D-Engineer> people still use cds?
[21:55] <spason> people with old computers do!
[21:55] <DR01D-Engineer> oh
[21:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> DR01D-Engineer: no reason to use 4gb when 700mb would do the trick
[21:55] <streulma> people with Mac do!
[21:56] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: Actually, could you point me towards this install?
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> patently wasteful
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: And it needs quotes in order to work, given it's not a stock C library. (Once again, IIRC; I haven't taken C/C++ in 3 months)
[21:56] <DR01D-Engineer> i just use usb for everything
[21:56] <spason> i'm trying to keep my machines going by switching to linux, but it's a little more intimidating that i was hoping.
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: releases.ubuntu.com/quantal
[21:56] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: Many thanks
[21:56] <DR01D-Engineer> i dont even have an optical drive on my pc.... if i want movies my ps3 plays blurays
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> not a problem
[21:57] <spason> anyone know what my video problem might be?
[21:57] <spason> it worked fine the first go-round.
[21:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> DR01D-Engineer: see? just as your situation prevents the use of a disc, others prevent the use of a dvd or usb stick
[21:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> spason: try pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[21:58] <streulma> spason: no don't know, I have used Ubuntu on a G4 :)
[21:58] <spason> ntz: while it is running?
[21:58] <streulma> thinking... to run Ubuntu only on my Macbook Air...
[21:58] <c|oneman> I read a few docs but I still don't understand load averages from top. I'm at ~1.1 on a dualcore system, which would indicate some activity, but CPU usage is always at around 98% idle
[21:59] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: Sorry for being dense - but which of the downloads on that page is the alternate install ?
[21:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> lemme see
[21:59] <streulma> cloneman: then your computer has 98% nothing to do
[21:59] <c|oneman> then why is my load 1.0?
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Actually, this might help: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/linux-programming/100137-how-include-usb-h.html
[21:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: do you have a torrent client?
[21:59] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes
[21:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: <3
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: It worked?
[22:01] <Fuzzles_> i upgraded to kde 4.10 but when i add a widget the menu is really white?
[22:01] <spason> Didn't work.  Any other thoughts?  It says ubuntu when it first starts to load, but not in the nice pretty way it's sposed to, and then it is blank screen.
[22:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: oh wow, quantal does not include an alternate. I must say, in warning, that my experience with quantal was horrible. may as well stick with precise as it has 5-year support
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Fuzzles_: What do you mean? (This is actually a good question for #kubuntu by the way)
[22:01] <spason> but if i press certain keys it makes a rejection noise, like it is loaded up.
[22:02] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777: The distro isn't really important - just need a live cd to help a friend get some files off an old pc!
[22:02] <spason> can i change the video somehow from a live cd and have it be that way when the hard drive boots?
[22:02] <streulma> cat_: use Ubuntu 12.04
[22:02] <streulma> cat_: it fits on a normal cd
[22:02] <cat_> streulma: Awesome, thanks :)
[22:02] <Fuzzles_> SonikkuAmerica: when i click on the panel to add widgets the meny with the widgets is white and not the the theme colour
[22:03] <Areone> Anyone know how to type fractions in Libreoffice.  I never had a need to do it in Linux and in Windoze I would just ALT 0189 etc.  I know how to do escape sequences from command line too but baffled in Libreoffice
[22:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: gotcha. as streulma said, precise does fit on a cd.
[22:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Areone: not a clue, lemme see
[22:03] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777, streulma: Thanks guys, will report back if I get stuck :)
[22:03] <spason> I guess i will reinstall ubuntu and try again?
[22:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: yup, that did the trick, installed libusb-dev
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Areone: Use a formula - Insert > Object > Formula (the one with the square root of a, not the "fx" symbol)
[22:04] <billybob000> when i connect to ubuntu's remote desktop sharing service (i believe vino is the default), i just get a black screen
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Awesome.
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Areone: and then type {X} over {Y} (where X and Y are numbers or variables; don't forget the { and }!)
[22:04] <billybob000> using ubuntu 12.10
[22:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Areone: try entering it as 0 3/4 or whatever is appropriate, auto correct should snatch it
[22:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Areone: what libreoffice program are you using?
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Fuzzles_: Hmmm... don't think I can help on that one... sorry
[22:06] <Fuzzles_> SonikkuAmerica: its ok its just with the air theme might be a bug
[22:07] <Areone> I'm using calc at the moment, but I'd also like to be able to do it writer as well.
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Fuzzles_: Probably... check in the #kubuntu channel.
[22:07] <Fuzzles_> SonikkuAmerica: ok thanks
[22:09] <Areone> It's not really for the mathematical aspect of the fraction as much as it is the look of it.  Initially I created the file on a Windows machine just using escape codes for the ascii equivalent of the fraction, but using ALT 0189 etc doesn't work the same
[22:09] <billybob000> anyone?
[22:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone > billybob000
[22:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> billybob000: try alt+f1
[22:11] <billybob000> ntzrmtthihu777: nope, didn't work
[22:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> no clue, then. thats my generic solution to black screen
[22:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you apply a patch file in ubuntu precise
[22:16] <segin> I have an issue with CPU frequency scaling
[22:16] <cat_> ntzrmtthihu777, streulma: Do you know how much RAM 12.04 live cd requires ?
[22:17] <segin> 'cpufreq-info' states 'available frequency steps: 1.20 GHz, 800 MHz', but also says 'current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 800 MHz.'
[22:17] <segin> I am unable to set the frequency to 1200MHz
[22:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> cat_: not too much
[22:17] <streulma> cat_: I think 512
[22:17] <segin> How do I lock it to be 1200MHz all day, every day?
[22:17] <cat_> Ok, cool
[22:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> linux in general does not need very much
[22:19] <ascorbic> segin: It might no longer be the case, but you used to have to set jumpers on your motherboard to change CPU frequency
[22:19] <josef__> Is there a way to have the launcher span from absolute top-left, so that I get the close-button, menu etc lining up with the app-window?
[22:19] <segin> ascorbic: There are systems that have jumpers AND also support software frequency scaling?
[22:20] <ascorbic> segin: Maybe this is what you're looking for? http://askubuntu.com/questions/142688/cpu-frequency-scaling-for-12-04
[22:21] <segin> ascorbic: The problem is that these GUI tools aren't working at all.
[22:21] <segin> ascorbic: Something is "locking out" the higher frequency.
[22:22] <segin> It's an Intel Core 2 Duo, by the way.
[22:22] <ascorbic> segin: Sorry, I'm not experienced with that particular problem
[22:24] <streulma> where is the man that could yesterday not install shell extensions ?
[22:25] <sw> hi. what's the package name for MySQL development libraries?
[22:28] <AsgardBSD> Is it a bad thing to shrink a root partition (root partition)?
[22:28] <AsgardBSD> I mean, does shrinking it will prevent linux from booting?
[22:28] <AsgardBSD> non-llvm
[22:28] <AsgardBSD> Or may it success
[22:28] <sw> hi. what's the package name for MySQL development libraries?
[22:28] <Denommus> why. Why would anyone want to fragment display servers? Why won't canonical have some sense and use Wayland?
[22:28] <ascorbic> AsgardBSD: Should work
[22:29] <pa> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30604/
[22:29] <trism> sw: probably want libmysqlclient-dev
[22:31] <wool> Denommus, it won't matter: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3MDY
[22:32] <roasted> Question - is there a way to change the arrangement of items within Nautilus of 12.04? It goes Devices, Bookmarks, Computer. I'm curious if I can arrange it Devices, Computer, Bookmarks. Eh?
[22:32] <Denommus> wool: Canonical is completely crazy, since they also announced that Unity will be converted to Qt/QML: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/unity-next-project-announced
[22:32] <Denommus> what the hell do they have in mind?
[22:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> roasted: good idea
[22:33] <roasted> ntzrmtthihu777: I have so many "bookmarks" that my "computer" items are shoved so far down. :(
[22:34] <pat> HELLO ALL - I need to remote into my Ubuntu box using RDP but also use RDP on another box using 3389. How do I change the listening port for xrdp and what port should I use?
[22:35] <wool> pat, I haven't checked, but is there a configuration file for xrdp at /etc/default/xrdp ?
[22:37] <nurupo> i want space key to be pressed when i press mouse wheel. can somebody suggest something?
[22:38] <itechcom> hi
[22:39] <wool> pat, looks as though it does put configuration there. Okay, I wonder if saying 'port=3390' in there works
[22:39] <itechcom> yup
[22:39] <shozemy> Hello everyone. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 alpha on my ARM Chromebook and I can't get flash player to work at all. I also get the "no such file or directory" when I run locale in the terminal
[22:39] <itechcom> which linux you're using?
[22:40] <shozemy> itechcom chrubuntu
[22:40] <shozemy> itechcom so that would be ch root I presume
[22:40] <wool> shozemy: "Turns out the only way is to extract it from the actual chromeOS on this already and then transfer it over. Thanks for all the help though!" -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/having-trouble-installing-flash-player-onto-chrubuntu-on-the-arm-based-chromebook-4175444859/
[22:41] <Anarkie> any russian?
[22:42] <Taev> how can i tell if my linux distro is detecting my USB wireless NIC?
[22:45] <useru> taev lspci
[22:45] <Taev> i dont see it
[22:46] <Taev> is there some way to force ubuntu to look for new hardware?
[22:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> roasted: I think it would be a good idea to be able to add stuff to the default "standard folders" ad-hoc
[22:48] <useru> teav lspci | grep Wireless
[22:48] <Taev> is there a way i can check to see if Ubuntu supports a F5D8053 N Wireless USB NIC?
[22:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: are you listening?
[22:50] <Taev> its not showing up
[22:50] <Taev> but im using 8.04
[22:50] <useru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382798
[22:50] <Taev> i want to know if it will be supported by the latest distro
[22:50] <Taev> that im going to install now
[22:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> well the easiest way to get info is to search google for your card name and the version you are gonna install
[22:51] <Taev> ty ntg
[22:51] <Taev> ntzrmtthihu777,
[22:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you check which version of xorg you have? cli or gui is fine
[22:52] <Taev> btw if i want to continue my RAID 0, I want the Alternate Install CD version, yes?
[22:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: I believe so, but quantal does not have an alternate
[22:53] <Taev> ive got 12.04.2-alternative
[22:53] <Taev> thats the newest LTS ?
[22:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes. !lts | Taev
[22:53] <Taev> ive used 8.04 LTS for a long time
[22:53] <Taev> its served me well
[22:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> !lts | Taev
[22:53] <Taev> oh god.. does this have Unity?
[22:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: you can get rid of it
[22:54] <Taev> if that is the primary concern of many users
[22:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: I did :D
[22:54] <Taev> why include it?
[22:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> because sometimes businesses do stupid things, like remove the start menu from win$8
[22:54] <Taev> i love Ubuntu but i really think its going in the wrong direction
[22:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: if you don't mind installing a remastered ubuntu I find that pinguy os 12.04 is damn nice
[22:55] <Taev> trying to prevent direct su access, unity, so on so forth, infact i was actually banned from here once for telling a guy what he wanted, how to be root
[22:55] <Taev> not sudo
[22:55] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm trying to create a bootable Windows 7 USB on Ubuntu. I created an NTFS partition on my USB drive (/dev/sdd1) but only the drive, not the partition number will show up in UNetBootin. Anybody know how I can go about this?
[22:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: exactly what you mean?
[22:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: easily done, sudo su
[22:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: I suppose you intend to have multiple partitions on said drive?
[22:58] <DeltaHeavy> mtzrmtthihu777: No, I usually run Linux through Virtual Box
[22:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: save yourself some time, type ntz and then hit tab
[22:59] <Taev> well mine was different
[23:00] <Jofironses> Hello, could someone suggest me a program i could use to check samba/windows drives in my local network?
[23:00] <Taev> you create a password for root account once logged in
[23:00] <Raac> does anyone else have trouble accessing youtube right now
[23:00] <Taev> that allows you log in as root
[23:00] <DeltaHeavy> ntzrmtthihu777: Awesome, thanks
[23:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Taev: also easily done
[23:00] <Taev> well i was banned for 24 hours for it
[23:00] <Taev> Sudo only, apparently
[23:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: so you have an ubuntu vbox, right? and you want to create a bootable win7 usb?
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Taev: This channel is for support related discussion only, please move other discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:01] <memand> Hey guys, I'm installing ubuntu for one of my friends that has never used linux before 12.10 or 12.04?
[23:01] <memand> And why?
[23:01] <DeltaHeavy> ntzrmtthihu777: Nope, I'm actually using a hardrive I had laying around with an old install of Ubuntu on it. This box is a brick till I get an OS on it.
[23:01] <Gabb0> Hi.  12.04 Server.  I have a PC that has a USB external HDD connected.. it is mounted in fstab.  How can I force a fsck on the external HDD on reboot?  I can fsck all drives if that's easier...thanks.
[23:01] <Taev> sorry jordan_u
[23:01] <Gabb0> 12.04... for support reasons.
[23:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: 12.04, because 12.10 screwed me royaly
[23:02] <Jordan_U> memand: Are they the type of person that likes to upgrade often, or rarely?
[23:02] <Taev> btw i just want to say never try updating your OS via the Adept thing, it completely hosed my system
[23:02] <DeltaHeavy> memand: 12.04, if he doesn't know how to upgrade himself, and you're not going to deal with it for him, he won't have to.
[23:02] <Taev> i tried recovery, and it just stalls
[23:02] <Taev> im just reinstalling now
[23:02] <Jofironses> Gabb0: You can probably do it by specifying the UUID
[23:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: so you are currently on a full ubuntu system and want to create a win7 bootstick to fix the other hdd?
[23:02] <memand> Jordan_U ntzrmtthihu777 DeltaHeavy: 12.04 it is :)
[23:03] <DeltaHeavy> ntzrmtthihu777, Yes
[23:03] <memand> Thanks for the replies :)
[23:03] <pat> wool - Believe I tried that already. Can't seem to pull it up.
[23:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> and you say it only shows the drive, and not the partition #?
[23:03] <memand> Is the 64-bit "stable"?
[23:03] <Jofironses> Hello, does any one know a program I could use to check samba/windows drives in my local network?
[23:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: always did the trick for me
[23:03] <DeltaHeavy> ntzrmtthihu777, however I think I just managed to get UNetBootIn to recognize my NTFS partition. Did it with fdisk/mkfs instead of gparted and it worked for some reason =S
[23:03] <DeltaHeavy> Not sure if I did something else in gparted that messed it up.
[23:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: sometimes gui apps just dont do the trick
[23:04] <Jordan_U> Gabb0: What filesystem is it and why can't you just unmount it and run fsck normally?
[23:04] <Gabb0> Jofironses, : thanks
[23:04] <memand> ntzrmtthihu777: 64-bit?
[23:04] <DeltaHeavy> ntzrmtthihu777, Yeah, seems odd but oh well. Hopefully this will all work now and I get myself in my usual setup. Hate this kind of downtime.
[23:04] <Gabb0> jordan_, i am not that adept with the mount command.
[23:05] <DeltaHeavy> memand: How much RAM does your friend have?
[23:05] <memand> DeltaHeavy: 4 gigs
[23:05] <Taev> i use a variation of mount -t vfat /dev/whatever
[23:05] <ddssc> hey how do I jail user to be able to view only his home dir? chmod or something, the easiest syntax plz
[23:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: yeah, and if you have more than 4gb of ram 64bit is needed to utilize it\
[23:05] <Taev> it used to work for floppies
[23:05] <DeltaHeavy> memand: Get 64-bit
[23:05] <memand> DeltaHeavy ntzrmtthihu777: Cool, thanks :)
[23:06] <memand> ANOTHER (WINDOZE) ONE BITES THE DUST!!!
[23:06] <segin> Taev: lsusb for USB, not lspci
[23:06] <segin> Taev: The last guy didn't pay attention, most of these people don't.
[23:06] <segin> sorry, for your wireless
[23:07] <ddssc> hey how do I jail user to be able to view only his home dir? chmod or something, the easiest syntax plz
[23:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ddssc: I think you would have to chmod everything else
[23:08] <ddssc> basically I want the user to be able to traverse only his home dir , cd .. shouldn't land him in /home/
[23:08] <DeltaHeavy> ddssc: chroot
[23:08] <ddssc> ntzrmtthihu777, please elaborate. chmod is a complex thing..
[23:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> ddssc: not really. chmod +x adds executable status, -x removes it. w write, r read
[23:09] <DeltaHeavy> ddssc: chroot does EXACTLY what you're asking for.
[23:09] <ddssc> is there a way in unix in general to say this: user A has rwx rights for the following dirs: X,Y,Z ?
[23:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: no, that would not do what he wants
[23:10] <Jordan_U> DeltaHeavy: No, it doesn't.
[23:10] <nell> Does anyone here use the g400 mouse with linux?
[23:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes, chmod +rxw the-dir as that user, sudo if needed
[23:10] <ddssc> so I'm basically looking to whitelist dir access, as opposed to blacklisting it, which I understand is unix default behavior
[23:10] <DeltaHeavy> Jordan_U, ntzrmtthihu777: http://www.serverschool.com/dedicated-servers/what-is-a-chroot-jail/
[23:10] <putterson> Hello, I am looking for a resource on how to configure the cmake files for my project so I will be able to run make install and have the software installed on my ubuntu system
[23:10] <Jordan_U> ddssc: Chmod is not the right tool for this job. There are many tools that can get you this, none of them (that I know of) particularly easy to setup properly. Among the options are emulating Ubuntu's "guest session" (which uses Apparmor to sandbox the user), and using a chroot jail.
[23:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> DeltaHeavy: chrooting into his home dir would deny him *any* programs
[23:11] <Jordan_U> DeltaHeavy: Sorry, I read your first comment as "chmod does exactly what you're looking for".
[23:11] <ddssc> cmon this can't be THAT hard srsly guys... all I want is when I grand user SSH access to my system, is not to be able to nose around other people's dirs, and other system dirs
[23:11] <putterson> I have only found resources showing how to package software that already "make install"s correctly
[23:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> all programs are, in general, stored in /bin and /usr/bin, so he wouuld be in fact unable to access other dirs, but it would be a useless session
[23:12] <marcs1989> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 on a Toshiba Satellite c655 and I can't get sound to work. I'm not muted on either youtube or my actual sound bar, and it doesn't work with \a commands either. Sound will not play through either my head phones or my computer speakers. This has been happening occasionally, and if I restart the PC the issue goes away, but it's getting a little annoying having to do that all the time.
[23:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> a certain setup needs xorg >= 1.5, X -version gives me xserver 1.11.3, is this what I need
[23:16] <marcs1989> If this helps, after searching the web I found something that suggested I do 'killall pulseaudio' but that hasn't helped. I don't hear the startup drum beat either.
[23:16] <ddssc> ok one more question, when a new user is created via adduser, and is not assigned to no particular group, that user has rwx only on his home dir?
[23:16] <memand> I just want to make sure that I'm going to give him a nice experience with ubuntu (my friend who is going to use Linux for his first time) and did a google search for ubuntu and his laptop (Lenovo x121e) and it seems that 11.10 should work like a charm, so I'm guessing that never versions (12.04) should also work?
[23:16] <Guest10409> Need help... installed ATI graphics driver on my Toshiba laptop and then I was in Compiz changing settings and then X crashed... On restart I get purple screen of death.
[23:17] <memand> (I don't kno how much changed since 11.10)
[23:17] <memand> Guest10409: go to another tty and uninstal the defected driver
[23:18] <memand> and reinstall a working one
[23:18] <Guest10409> memand:  tty?
[23:18] <servvs> is there a way to have a default where all traffic goes through a VPN and then specify some traffic to not go through the vpn?
[23:18] <memand> Guest10409: pres Ctrl + Alt + F2
[23:18] <memand> Guest10409: then you get a terminal
[23:19] <Jordan_U> !sound | marcs1989
[23:19] <Guest10409> memand:  i pressed ctrl+alt+f2 and nothing happens
[23:19] <servvs> is there a way to have a default where all traffic goes through a VPN and then specify some traffic to not go through the vpn?
[23:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: nooooo
[23:19] <ddssc> when a new user is created via adduser, and is not assigned to any particular group, that user has rwx only on his home dir. correct?
[23:19] <memand> Guest10409: Try Ctrl + Alt + F1-5
[23:20] <memand> ntzrmtthihu777: ?
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> you do not get a terminal like that, that will drop out of the desktop
[23:20] <Guest10409> memand: nothing....
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh lol, my bad.
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: continue
[23:20] <memand> ntzrmtthihu777: lol :D
[23:20] <Guest10409> memand:  still solid purple screen
[23:21] <memand> Hmmm, that is strange Guest10409
[23:21] <memand> ntzrmtthihu777: Any sugestions on what to do if Guest10409 can't change tty?
[23:21] <Guest10409> memand:  i went into grub and set nomodeset but got an error
[23:21] <Jordan_U> marcs1989: Also, there was a major rework of the audio driver framework in linux 3.9, so it might be worth trying a 3.9 or newer kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ , though be aware that upgrading the kernel could very likely break many other things.
[23:22] <memand> Guest10409: I must say that I don't remember all the grub settings, but give me a sec :)
[23:23] <memand> Ubuntu uses grub2 right????
[23:23] <Guest10409> no 1.99 is what i see
[23:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest10409: memand: grub2 == 1.99
[23:24] <iceroot> memand: yes, ubuntu is used grub2 (which is having the version 1.9x
[23:24] <Guest10409> well thats confusing lol
[23:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> memand: Guest10409: binary counting
[23:25] <memand> iceroot ntzrmtthihu777 Guest10409: just rading the wiki... brb :)
[23:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> alot of software starts at version 0
[23:25] <servvs> is there a way to have a default where all traffic goes through a VPN and then specify some traffic to not go through the vpn?
[23:25] <Guest10409> I'm ready to toss the damn computer out the window
[23:25] <Rokkross> Guest10409: Do it.
[23:25] <Rokkross> Please.
[23:25] <Guest10409> hehe
[23:26] <Rokkross> Jk, what's the problem?
[23:26] <Guest10409> blank purple screen on boot 12.04
[23:26] <Rokkross> Purple? I'm not sure what that would be.
[23:26] <Guest10409> ubuntu boot screen but no logo
[23:27] <Guest10409> at first ubuntu boot screen with logo and now i just get blank purple screen...
[23:28] <Rokkross> Odd.
[23:28] <marcs1989> jordan_u Thanks!
[23:28] <Rokkross> I realize that this was suggested earlier, but are you sure you can't switch to a tty?
[23:28] <memand> Rokkross: He did an install of a new ATI driver, if you did not see :)
[23:29] <Rokkross> memand: I saw
[23:29] <memand> Rokkross: :)
[23:29] <Guest10409> how do you get to tty???  press cntrl alt f3 when i get to purple boot screen?
[23:29] <memand> Rokkross: Can't he choose to go to a command line from grub?
[23:29] <Rokkross> Yes, try it then.
[23:30] <Rokkross> memand: Yes, he can
[23:30] <Guest10409> Yes i can get to command line from grub
[23:30] <Rokkross> In grub, remove the options "quiet" and "splash" and add "text"
[23:30] <memand> I don't remeber how though, I'm reading the wiki
[23:30] <Rokkross> Guest10409: You don't want grub's command line, mind you.
[23:30] <Guest10409> im in recovery mode and there is an option to drop to root shell prompt
[23:31] <Guest10409> ohh ok
[23:31] <Jordan_U> marcs1989: You're welcome. Please keep me updated on how things go, and also try #alsa and #pulseadio .
[23:31] <Rokkross> Guest10409: So what drivers were you using before? VESA?
[23:32] <Guest10409> just the regular non-proprietary driver that came with ubuntu
[23:32] <Rokkross> Also, could you do us a favor and choose a nickname? It makes it easier to recognize you. Just type /nick and then the nickname you want.
[23:32] <Rokkross> Huh, weird.
[23:32] <Rokkross> Why do you need the proprietary one? Gaming?
[23:33] <Guest10409> how do you change nichname without exiting chat
[23:33] <Rokkross> Guest10409: I just told you
[23:33] <Rokkross> /nick and then your nick
[23:33] <King_of_Worms> is anyone online who can help me find the right driver for 12.10 for using my ethernet jack?
[23:33] <PlastikSpork> ok changed my name to this
[23:34] <selena2013> hello
[23:34] <Rokkross> Okay PlastikSpork, are you at the purple screen?
[23:34] <King_of_Worms> yo
[23:34] <Rokkross> Or wait, skip the purple screen stuff actually
[23:34] <Rokkross> We'll try something else instead of switching to another tty
[23:35] <PlastikSpork> at purple screen
[23:35] <anoe> hi there, simple question: when ubuntu update manager is launched, it show updates available. If I untick any of those updates, should they show up again next time the update manager is launched? I think it's not like that for mine. How can I change this behaviour, or install the previously non-installed stuff?
[23:35] <King_of_Worms> hey, can anyone help me with driver issues?
[23:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> King_of_Worms: I wouldn't use 12.10, its damn crappy
[23:35] <King_of_Worms> fair enough
[23:35] <King_of_Worms> I will go back to an older version.
[23:36] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: Well if you're there already, try switching to a tty again I guess.
[23:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> first off, you needa know what kinda ethernet card you have
[23:36] <selena2013> 12.10 is good
[23:36] <Rokkross> ctrl alt F1 through F6
[23:36] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross which F key?
[23:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> lspci -nnv whoud do it
[23:36] <PlastikSpork> ok
[23:36] <Rokkross> Any of those
[23:36] <Rokkross> As long as it's not higher than F6
[23:36] <Rokkross> higher ones are video terminals.
[23:36] <Rokkross> not ttys
[23:36] <King_of_Worms> How can I find out what my ethernet card is?
[23:36] <PlastikSpork> nothing happens.  its like its locked up
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> King_of_Worms: lspci -nnv
[23:37] <Rokkross> Okay.
[23:37] <Rokkross> Reboot and in grub's menu, press "e" to edit the config before booting
[23:38] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross ok
[23:38] <King_of_Worms> I did that
[23:38] <King_of_Worms> is it under ethernet controller?
[23:38] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: ok now what
[23:39] <Rokkross> Once there, find the line with the options with "quiet" and "splash"
[23:39] <PlastikSpork> yup
[23:39] <Rokkross> Remove those options, and enter "text" and "nomodeset"
[23:39] <King_of_Worms> ntzrmtthihu777: it says it's AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet
[23:40] <Rokkross> This is just to see if you can boot into a non-graphical session at all. Since you removed the splash screen you'll be able to see everything the terminal spits out while booting
[23:40] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: ok now press F10?
[23:40] <Rokkross> Yep.
[23:40] <Rokkross> assuming that's what you need to boot. I tend to forget these things unless I'm doing them XD
[23:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> King_of_Worms: alrighty, note that somewhere. now, you should be able to find the driver using jockey-gtk. but in quantal that got merged into software center
[23:42] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: i was at tty now i get error...  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
[23:42] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: sdb Asking for cache date failed
[23:42] <King_of_Worms> ntzrmtthihu777: how do i access this?
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: I have a multitrack cd image (1 .cue and 2 .bin files [data and music]), how do I burn this to cd?
[23:43] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross:  Assuming drive cache write through
[23:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> King_of_Worms: open software center, and check the tabs at top for software sources
[23:44] <ubuntu22> I am trying to update my 12.04 os and I am getting error "Not all updates can be installed."  This is causing me to not be able to update linux headers
[23:44] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Hare you tried opening the .cue file in Brasero?
[23:44] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: The first thing is said after login is:  CIFS VFS: default security mechanism requested.  THe default security mechanism will be upgraded from ntim to ntlmv2 in kernel release 3.3
[23:44] <Jordan_U> s/Hare/Have/
[23:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: yes, gave an error and did not work
[23:45] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: I honestly don't know what to say there. That doesn't seem remotely related to your video driver though.
[23:45] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross:  Toss it out the window?
[23:46] <Rokkross> No no
[23:46] <Rokkross> I just don't know exactly what CIFS is.
[23:46] <klingo> hello, how would one optimize root dirs to ssd vs hdd ? which ones are more static and which one are changed frequently? i know that /var/ is changed freq. but what about others?
[23:47] <mJayk> test
[23:47] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross it has something to do with SAMBA
[23:48] <PlastikSpork> It is trying to mount network drives I think
[23:48] <mJayk> Anyone here run IRSSI ?
[23:49] <tekk> anyone know of any kvm/qemu changes in 3.5.x kernels from 3.2.x ? i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and a lot of issues have gone away and performance and IO have increased
[23:49] <tekk> wonder if its a co-incidence
[23:49] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: You're absolutely sure that you weren't having problems before updating your driver to the proprietary one?
[23:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: I'ma try using acetoneiso
[23:50] <Rokkross> Also did you replace any other packages with proprietary ones?
[23:50] <rats_> mJayk: i DO BUT TO A LIMITTED EXTENT
[23:50] <OerHeks> tekk that takes some time searching the change logs
[23:50] <rats_> sry for caps
[23:50] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross I had issue after installing Teamviewer... my touchpad driver dissapeard and had to reinstall
[23:50] <Rokkross> rats_: CHECK YOUR MESSAGE BEFORE PRESSING ENTER :D
[23:51] <mJayk> rats its ok i just figured it out, couldnt work out how to switch between windows
[23:51] <mJayk> rats  id failed to setup tags properly
[23:51] <yigit> is there anyone who is good ad assembly ? I want to write from right to left on LCD
[23:51] <rats_> ok thats good mJayk
[23:51] <Rokkross> mJayk: alt + a number key
[23:52] <Rokkross> But I'm assuming you already did find that out
[23:52] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross:  HEY!!! I finally got to login and im at command prompt
[23:52] <mJayk> Rokkross merci beats /window 3
[23:52] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: We call it a terminal on gnu systems :P
[23:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: excellent! now you can do something
[23:52] <tekk> yeaaaap
[23:52] <PlastikSpork> OK
[23:52] <tekk> just wondered if anyone knew anything obvious ;)
[23:52] <Rokkross> So, you replaced your old driver with a new one?
[23:52] <Rokkross> Let's just try removing the new one for the hell of it. Is that an option?
[23:53] <PlastikSpork> yes lets remove it
[23:53] <Rokkross> apt-get autoremove whateverthepackagenamewas
[23:53] <Untitled1> How do I install 12.10 desktop version on a UEFI-only machine?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: What error message?
[23:54] <PlastikSpork> how do i know what the package name was?
[23:54] <Untitled1> The instructions on the UEFI site say to boot BIOS installers from USB. Which don't work.
[23:54] <Untitled1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:54] <FuZi0N> hello
[23:54] <FuZi0N> We want to have bob and charlie able to work together on /home/charlie/groupfile.txt.
[23:54] <FuZi0N> how do i accomplish this?
[23:54] <FuZi0N> i could put them in same usergroup
[23:54] <FuZi0N> but the problem is that bob and alice already belong to a user group so they can share files
[23:54] <FuZi0N> is it possible to have a user apart of multiple usergroups?
[23:54] <FloodBot1> FuZi0N: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Untitled1: Burn to a DVD, boot from said DVD, install normally.
[23:54] <Untitled1> FuZi0N: User can belong to as many groups as you want
[23:54] <Untitled1> Just add them in /etc/group
[23:54] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: You installed it
[23:54] <FuZi0N> hmm
[23:54] <nikitis> Hey i'm trying to mount a USB Drive on boot automatically.  When i do it manually it mounts, but when in Fstab it does not.  The directory it's supposed to mount to is empty.  What could be going wrong?
[23:54] <Untitled1> My machine does not have DVD
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Untitled1: Or, dd the iso file to a USB drive (be *very* careful with dd as it could wipe the wrong drive if you're not carefull), then boot from USB, then install normally.
[23:55] <Untitled1> And I have no USB DVD drive.
[23:55] <PlastikSpork> yeah but not from terminal... ubuntu told me i had additional drivers to install
[23:55] <Untitled1> And that also doesn't work.
[23:55] <Untitled1> The USB stick needs to be set up with UEFI partition.
[23:55]  * Rokkross facepalms
[23:55] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: If you have a video driver that works for you, don't replace it
[23:55] <Rokkross> ever
[23:55] <Rokkross> EVER
[23:56] <Untitled1> How do I create a UEFI bootable USB stick with Ubuntu on it?
[23:56] <mJayk> tt
[23:56] <Untitled1> All I have right now is a Windows 8 machine with a single USB port, a blank USB drive, and the Ubuntu 12.10 ISO.
[23:56] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: I had that  driver installed in the windows install version of Ubuntu and it worked great.l.. I think what i did was installed the driver and then didnt reboot the system before messing around with compiz
[23:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: frakk, lemme get it again
[23:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Untitled1: then do a cd, ubuntu is small enough to do that
[23:57] <Untitled1> What part of "I don't have a DVD or CD drive" was unclear?
[23:57] <mJayk> Untitled1 I believe your best bet is to disable UEFI in the bios ?
[23:57] <Untitled1> There is no BIOS.
[23:57] <Untitled1> THERE IS ONLY UEFI.
[23:58] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: Compiz shouldn't affect booting though. At least I don't think.
[23:58] <mJayk> you confuse me
[23:58] <Nach0z> hey guys, I'm runnin ubuntu 10.04, and I cannot get this sonofagun to either A. use the intel instead of vesa drivers, or B. detect my actual screen size. it thinks it's 1024x768 when it should be 1366x768. any advice?
[23:58] <Untitled1> (This is a Samsung 700t Core i5 based laptop/tablet)
[23:58] <FuZi0N> Untitled1: yes
[23:58] <FuZi0N> addgroup newgroup
[23:58] <FuZi0N> adduser charlie newgroup
[23:58] <FuZi0N> adduser bob newgroup
[23:58] <FuZi0N> i did that
[23:58] <FuZi0N> so they should both be in the same group correct?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> FuZi0N: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <iceroot> Untitled1: read the articles about ubuntu and samsung and uefi before installing it
[23:58] <Untitled1> Fuzi0N: You need to re-login for the system to "see" your new group
[23:58] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: I have a solution
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> !caps | Untitled1
[23:59] <iceroot> Untitled1: there is a bug on samsumg notebooks were the notebook can be destroyed
[23:59] <nikitis> To Anyone.  Is it no longer possible to automount on boot USB HDD's inside a /home/user directory anymore?
[23:59] <OerHeks> iceroot +1
[23:59] <Rokkross> type this in the terminal: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
[23:59] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: ok... what do you have in mind?
[23:59] <Untitled1> iceroot: I read the "install Ubuntu on UEFI" article, which says to start by booting from BIOS/MBR. Doesn't work.
[23:59] <Untitled1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:59] <MoPac> So I'm having trouble getting gDevilspie scripts to automatically move a window to a certain viewport/workspace. Has anyone here succeeded with that?  It's annoying to have a jumble of Devilspie and Compiz settins
[23:59] <Rokkross> That should show your most recently installed packages
[23:59] <Untitled1> What particular Samsung article are you talking about, iceroot?
[23:59] <Rokkross> Find one related to your video driver and remove it
[23:59] <iceroot> Untitled1: read the articles about destroyed notebooks
[23:59] <mJayk> Untitled1 what iceroot said samsung devices being bricked is all over the googlebox
[23:59] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross: why doesn't linux come with a restore point option like windows has?
[23:59] <Untitled1> So, can't get there from here?