| cerebrate | how do i open cli emacs with the termanil? as if by default it chooses to open the gui version o emacs | 01:10 |
|---|---|---|
| cerebrate | winetricks from menu shows no gui interface on taskbar | 03:05 |
| cerebrate | app manager | 03:05 |
| cerebrate | rather | 03:05 |
| === holstein_ is now known as holstein | ||
| cerebrate | hi holstein | 03:47 |
| cerebrate | *terminal | 03:48 |
| holstein | cerebrate: o/ | 03:48 |
| * cerebrate sniffs the pit o..o | 03:48 | |
| holstein | cerebrate: winetricks is an add-onc AFAIK.. it'll do things to wine, but you dont run "wine tricks".. | 03:48 |
| redtape-renegade | software center is now working .. only took 3 hours to download the packages !! | 04:10 |
| holstein | i would expect an internet issue server or client side | 04:12 |
| redtape-renegade | hi holstein , had a funny dream (it's 4:20am)so decided to see what was bugging me .. seems to have sorted itself out .. thanx. | 04:21 |
| cerebrate | still didn't find a way to activate CLI emacs | 04:25 |
| redtape-renegade | no nor do I mate. Is there an urgent bug list for Lubuntu that I can ponder over to see what needs doing.. while I wither away the wee small hours away of Tues. morn ?? | 04:28 |
| redtape-renegade | holstein: Qu. ^ | 04:31 |
| holstein | redtape-renegade: the normal ubuntu ones... you can search lubuntu specifics | 04:32 |
| redtape-renegade | searching.. somewhat slowly .. | 04:32 |
| redtape-renegade | holstein: Also .. http://www.playdeb.net/software/SuperTuxKart I'd like to get 'getdeb' up and running in my system .. any ideas how ? .. i.e. so I can download from their site ? | 04:34 |
| holstein | redtape-renegade: you can try downloading and installing the .deb's | 04:36 |
| holstein | you shouldnt need it | 04:37 |
| holstein | this is how it used to work http://www.ubuntugeek.com/playdeb-installing-games-in-ubuntu-made-easy.html | 04:37 |
| holstein | here is the super tux cart ppa https://launchpad.net/~stk/+archive/dev | 04:38 |
| redtape-renegade | I've forgotten how to install from launchpad :( .. how's it go again ?? | 04:43 |
| holstein | redtape-renegade: you add the PPA | 04:44 |
| holstein | !ppa | 04:44 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 04:44 |
| redtape-renegade | dunno the commands... | 04:44 |
| holstein | redtape-renegade: when you are loking at the page i linked https://launchpad.net/~stk/+archive/dev you'll see (Read about installing" | 04:46 |
| holstein | you'll see how it , and i suggest using the sudo add-apt-repository command | 04:46 |
| holstein | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stk/dev *use at your own risk understanding how to remove this PPA and knowing what a PPA is, and does* | 04:48 |
| wxl | how does one change default gui editor? | 04:48 |
| Unit193 | export VISUAL="scite" in yer .bashrc | 04:49 |
| wxl | it's not alternatives? | 04:50 |
| Unit193 | That too, was thinking the other style of default. :P | 04:51 |
| wxl | now i have to remember how to use update-alternatives :) | 04:54 |
| Unit193 | update-alternatives --get-selections will list (most?) them. And of course you know --help. ;) | 04:55 |
| cerebrate | how do i ease my computer life into a more CLI and terminal based operating? | 06:30 |
| === aJacom is now known as alainus | ||
| wxl | cerebrate: ctrl-alt-t | 06:32 |
| cerebrate | i need a simpler less intense monitor output for my sensitive eyes i think & thanks | 06:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | cerebrate, remove the GUI. | 06:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | but you won't have graphical applications then | 06:34 |
| alainus | is lubuntu onis installing lubuntu from zero the same as installing it through the Synaptic Package Manager as suggested in http://ubuntuhelp.tumblr.com/post/1301847558/is-there-a-way-i-can-switch-from-my-installed-regular, or just installing the lxde desktop while having a regular ubuntu installation? | 06:34 |
| alainus | woops sorry for the error there | 06:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | forgive me but I wouldn't trust random tumblr blugs. | 06:35 |
| alainus | erase the first "is lubuntu on" | 06:35 |
| wxl | i thought tumblr was the official site of lubuntu | 06:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | inswell i don't trust a blog called "ubuntuhelp" on tumblr. | 06:36 |
| Unit193 | Not quite, but you can.... | 06:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/inswell/well/ | 06:36 |
| Unit193 | !purexde | 06:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | !purelxde | 06:36 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » | 06:36 |
| Unit193 | !purelxde | 06:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | Unit193, i iz ninja | 06:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | loljk | 06:36 |
| alainus | so the general recommendation for ubuntu users is to just do a clean install | 06:37 |
| alainus | ? | 06:37 |
| wxl | alainus: let's ask a deeper question. why WOULDN'T you do a clean install? | 06:38 |
| cerebrate | can i modify a script to make the startup start with a cli so i can activate with start* something like a gui? | 06:39 |
| alainus | wxl personally because i was hoping i could just try it first and then choose whether to install it | 06:39 |
| hyperair | wxl: why would you? | 06:39 |
| hyperair | it's so much simpler to just sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 06:39 |
| hyperair | it's the same base at the end of the day | 06:39 |
| Unit193 | cerebrate: Yep, remove quiet splash and replace it with text in /etc/default/grub | 06:40 |
| cerebrate | hyperair i have doubts about that statement | 06:40 |
| wxl | alainus: why not just try the live cd then? | 06:40 |
| hyperair | that way you also get to save your partitioning setup, your bootloader setup, your dmcrypt and whatever else setup.. | 06:40 |
| hyperair | cerebrate: why, what else is there to lubuntu that's not in the archive? | 06:40 |
| wxl | hyperair: you assume you have such a set up | 06:40 |
| hyperair | wxl: i'm talking about my own laptop here, so there's no assumption. | 06:40 |
| wxl | uh | 06:41 |
| wxl | alainus = hyperair ? | 06:41 |
| hyperair | well you said "you" | 06:41 |
| alainus | wxl, i guess i could do that yeah. although i like the idea of having the possibility to switch between desktops at login, that way I could use my own applications in lubuntu and see if it's right for me | 06:41 |
| wxl | hyperair: so did you | 06:41 |
| hyperair | naturally when you say "you assume you have such a set up", i'd assume that "you" and "you" refer to the same person. | 06:41 |
| cerebrate | makes sense :D | 06:41 |
| cerebrate | ty yall | 06:41 |
| alainus | wxl alainus != hyperair | 06:42 |
| hyperair | in any case, i'm just telling you that there are merits in not doing a fresh install. | 06:42 |
| hyperair | this ubuntu installation predates this thinkpad. | 06:42 |
| * hyperair rsync'd it over from the previous laptop | 06:42 | |
| hyperair | and my rsync'd backup hard disks are bootable via usb. | 06:43 |
| alainus | TheLordOfTime, would you trust this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44062/how-do-i-install-lxde-lubuntu | 06:43 |
| alainus | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 06:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | that i would, but only if you want to install lubuntu stuff alongside the Ubuntu stuff | 06:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | if you want PURE Lubuntu/LXDE, you may want the link from the factoid. | 06:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | or just clean install. | 06:45 |
| alainus | TheLordOfTime, yeah that's my first choice... of course i don't want a minified/incomplete version of lubuntu if that's what you're saying | 06:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's not what i was saying... | 06:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | but meh | 06:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | (that askubuntu result will work though) | 06:46 |
| alainus | ok it's settled then thanks =) | 06:47 |
| hyperair | alainus: one thing i noticed when i had both GNOME and KDE installed together -- your GNOME startup applications tend to pollute that of the next DE, so if you really want to see how a vanilla install looks like you could try starting up a temporary user account to see how it is. | 06:50 |
| hyperair | (basically starting from a clean $HOME) | 06:50 |
| alainus | DE ?? | 06:50 |
| alainus | aah | 06:50 |
| alainus | desktop environment | 06:50 |
| alainus | ok thanks for the tip | 06:52 |
| lxle | anyone available for beta testing? | 07:49 |
| cerebrate | i guess i could lxle | 07:50 |
| lxle | working on a respin of lubuntu, pretty close to letting it out | 07:52 |
| cerebrate | sounds gorgeous | 07:52 |
| cerebrate | but i dont have a bootstick or a dvd to put it on | 07:52 |
| cerebrate | maybe vbox? | 07:52 |
| lxle | one sec, quick update | 07:54 |
| Unit193 | Respins aren't supported in here, though. | 07:55 |
| lxle | understood, not lookin for support, just a tester | 07:55 |
| lxle | site i threw up, which is not complete but should do is,,, http://www.lxle.net | 07:56 |
| lxle | can find download in the about section | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | Those are borderline at best. | 07:56 |
| lxle | if anyone is able to boot it and stuff, in a vbox or whatever, let me know of any issues | 08:00 |
| lxle | if you have the time that is lolol | 08:00 |
| Unit193 | lxle: I recommend you read http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/ and create ##lxle | 08:06 |
| lxle | ok, sorry to break any rules, innocently lookin for testers, won't happen again | 08:08 |
| Unit193 | I understand that, and the need for testers. Thanks for your understanding. Statement that it exists would be better suited for #lubuntu-offtopic, but you'd have to be very careful to not advertise (fine line) | 08:14 |
| cerebrate | i read in an ancient chinese text to not parade around merits but to let people discover them spontaneously :D | 08:15 |
| lxle | thx, maybe i'll try there then | 08:17 |
| === IboS_ is now known as IboS | ||
| cerebrate | for now the lxle website redirects irc support to here | 11:55 |
| cerebrate | soon corrected | 11:55 |
| cerebrate | thank you | 11:55 |
| intmain | Good morning, after and apt-get update yesterday, I now have duplicate desktop icons on both of my displays? but deleting the icon from my secondary display deletes it from the primary as well. | 14:09 |
| tata_ | is it possible to switch off authenticate-authentication ? | 19:11 |
| wxl | tata_: on any and everything universally? probably not | 19:12 |
| wxl | tata_: is there something specific you'd rather not provide credentials to? | 19:12 |
| tata_ | when I mount other partition, sda1 or sda2... | 19:14 |
| wxl | you could automount them | 19:15 |
| wxl | it appears pmount can do it too | 19:16 |
| wxl | but i've never tried | 19:16 |
| wxl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Using_pmount | 19:16 |
| bluefox_ | hi guys | 20:24 |
| bluefox_ | anyone here? | 20:24 |
| bluefox_ | :/ | 20:25 |
| wxl | !ask | 20:25 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 20:25 |
| bluefox_ | okay, so i have msi vr602 computer have 1gb ram and when i boot lubuntu from usb, it freezes when i want to start it live mode | 20:25 |
| wxl | is it possible to use a dvd or cd instead? | 20:26 |
| bluefox_ | nope :/ i don't have now | 20:26 |
| wxl | in that case, have you verified the md5 of the usb against the iso file and both of those against the published values? | 20:27 |
| bluefox_ | it freezes after [4.771988] key type trusted registered | 20:27 |
| bluefox_ | yep i downloaded it from official site and 12.10 | 20:28 |
| wxl | if the copy is one bit off it could cause a total difference | 20:28 |
| wxl | i didn't ask you if it was official | 20:28 |
| wxl | i asked if you verified the md5 | 20:28 |
| wxl | !md5 | 20:28 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 20:28 |
| bluefox_ | yes i verified it | 20:34 |
| bluefox_ | same | 20:34 |
| bluefox_ | what i will do now? | 20:35 |
| wxl | bluefox_: you verified the usb itself? you'd need to use dd to do this. | 20:35 |
| wxl | bluefox_: it's explained here tho it says cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD | 20:36 |
| bluefox_ | don't get angry, i am sorry but i installed it from lubuntu site and installed usb with lili | 20:37 |
| bluefox_ | i verified the md5sum of the .iso file | 20:37 |
| wxl | not angry at all, just speaking from personal experience | 20:37 |
| wxl | i once had an iso that matched up but the usb burn didn't | 20:38 |
| wxl | it may be the whole cause | 20:38 |
| bluefox_ | bu at another pc that lubuntu works | 20:38 |
| wxl | oh now that's an interesting fact | 20:38 |
| wxl | you mean that you can put the usb in another pc and it loads to live? | 20:38 |
| bluefox_ | yes with no problem | 20:39 |
| bluefox_ | but at msi vr602 | 20:39 |
| bluefox_ | i have that problem | 20:39 |
| bluefox_ | thats an old computer so i decided to install lubuntu but.. | 20:39 |
| wxl | so when you get to the frozen screen, can yo uget to a tty? tryto hit ctl-alt-f2 and see if it gives you a text login | 20:39 |
| wxl | it's not that old. i have lubuntu running on machines designed for xp :) | 20:40 |
| bluefox_ | i will try | 20:40 |
| bluefox_ | can u w8 a min pls? | 20:40 |
| wxl | i'm working so i'm not just sitting here twiddling my thumbds :) | 20:40 |
| wxl | so you don't even get to any graphical screen before the freeze, right? | 20:43 |
| bluefox_ | i tried ctrl alt f2 | 20:45 |
| bluefox_ | choices coming, run lubuntu from that usb | 20:45 |
| bluefox_ | then some texts are coming | 20:46 |
| bluefox_ | than that texts freeze | 20:46 |
| wxl | when the text freeezes, that's when to try ctrl-alt-f2 | 20:46 |
| wxl | not before :) | 20:46 |
| bluefox_ | that freezes always at key type encrypted registered | 20:46 |
| bluefox_ | i tried when that freezed | 20:46 |
| bluefox_ | nothing came | 20:46 |
| wxl | ok | 20:47 |
| wxl | bizarre | 20:47 |
| wxl | i'm stumped | 20:48 |
| wxl | i would maybe suggest trying 12.04 and/or 13.04 and see if you get the same results | 20:48 |
| bluefox_ | i tried xubuntu, same run from that usb than no text came | 20:49 |
| bluefox_ | after that choice | 20:49 |
| wxl | did it boot up? | 20:50 |
| bluefox_ | yes | 20:50 |
| bluefox_ | i selected language | 20:51 |
| wxl | ok so that's good | 20:51 |
| wxl | but | 20:51 |
| wxl | xubuntu != lubuntu | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | i know | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | i tried that | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | another os | 20:51 |
| wxl | so that's not a fair comparison | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | wil be run | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | problem is my computer or the os | 20:51 |
| wxl | but if you try 12.04 or 13.04 and don't have the problem then the problem must lie in 12.10 | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | maybe | 20:51 |
| wxl | else the problem lies universally in lubuntu | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | downloading | 20:51 |
| bluefox_ | 12.04 | 20:51 |
| wxl | and make extra sure to check those md5s :) | 20:55 |
| bluefox_ | after 5 min i will give report :D | 20:56 |
| wxl | ok | 20:58 |
| bluefox_ | i will go crazy | 21:03 |
| bluefox_ | still freezes | 21:03 |
| bluefox_ | >.< | 21:04 |
| bluefox_ | 12.04 | 21:04 |
| bluefox_ | dude r u here? | 21:05 |
| bluefox_ | Q_Q | 21:05 |
| phillw | bluefox_: give me a couple of minutes to read the logs so I'm up to speed on what you are asking. | 21:06 |
| bluefox_ | ok | 21:06 |
| bluefox_ | phillw: let's take it from begining, i have msi vr602 laptop and i want to install lubuntu from usb | 21:10 |
| phillw | so, does 12.04 boot? | 21:10 |
| bluefox_ | nope | 21:10 |
| bluefox_ | freezed | 21:10 |
| bluefox_ | again | 21:10 |
| bluefox_ | i selected run from that usb | 21:11 |
| bluefox_ | some white big texts came | 21:11 |
| bluefox_ | than that texts stopped to load | 21:11 |
| bluefox_ | i waited for couple mins but | 21:11 |
| phillw | let me just look at the specs for your laptop. | 21:11 |
| bluefox_ | i have nothing now :/ | 21:11 |
| phillw | bluefox_: have a read of the msi forum at http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129872.0 I suspect that may have the solution | 21:14 |
| phillw | he seemed pretty happy with the solution :D | 21:15 |
| bluefox_ | OV YES :D | 21:16 |
| wxl | no acpi kind of sucks | 21:16 |
| bluefox_ | thnx man | 21:16 |
| phillw | wxl: from the msi sute, it appears to be a firmware issue. I trust the manufacturers' sites on these issues. Sure, it is a bug... but whos' ? | 21:17 |
| phillw | s/sute/site/ | 21:18 |
| wxl | da | 21:18 |
| wxl | still sucks; i digress | 21:18 |
| phillw | wxl: that's as good as I could find in 60 seconds :) black-belt at google-fu, I may be... master of all bugs I am not :) | 21:19 |
| wxl | well you did better than i did | 21:19 |
| phillw | it was 2009 dated, I cannot guarantee it will still work, but if he has a bootable system at least we have a chance to investigate. | 21:26 |
| wxl | didn't know there was one | 21:30 |
| wxl | oops | 21:30 |
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