[02:08] <dcenter> hello everyone.  I was wondering if anyone in here is familiar with hdmi output in dell studio 1535 running ubuntu 12.10
[02:40] <duanedesign> hello dcenter
[08:17] <Tanbir> hi everybidy
[08:17] <Tanbir> everybody
[08:18] <Tanbir> i want to learn ubuntu
[08:18] <Tanbir> but where to start
[08:21] <kalenjohnson> Tanbir, have you installed or tried running Ubuntu yet?
[18:50] <havok> Sorry to bust in like this, but I'm worried I messed up my install. I am just trying Ubuntu for the first time.
[18:50] <havok> I started by attempting to install Google Chrome
[18:51] <havok> By following the guide online
[18:51] <havok> sudo dpkg -i google-chrome*
[18:51] <havok> Didn't work
[18:52] <havok> and when I used sudo apt-get install -f it did SOMETHING, but I'm not sure what
[19:02] <havok> And frankly, I'm lost in what I nee to do to get linux running- there are so many guides, but some are quite old, others are for the wrong istro. Any advice where I can find a good place to get my feet wet?
[19:07] <holstein> havok: well, think about it this way.. what did you come from? windows?
[19:07] <havok> Win7
[19:07] <holstein> havok: but, when did you start using windows? xp? around 2002 or so?
[19:08] <havok> Oh, XP was on the first computer I built for myself, so that's an appropriate answer
[19:08] <holstein> my point is.. think about how long you used windows "as-is".. and how long it was til you installed another piece of software
[19:08] <holstein> you are landing in an operating system and expecting to be a pro
[19:08] <holstein> that being said.. open a terminal
[19:08] <havok> OK
[19:08] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove google-chrome
[19:09] <holstein> copy/past that and hit enter
[19:09] <holstein> havok: then run this..
[19:09] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[19:09] <havok> Wait
[19:09] <holstein> see that no errors are listed there
[19:10] <havok> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:10] <havok> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:10] <holstein> havok: you need to close other package managers
[19:10] <holstein> havok: do this.. close *everything* else
[19:10] <havok> Oh
[19:10] <holstein> havok: open only a terminal and whatever you are using for chat if its the same machine
[19:10] <havok> Well, I think I'm updaing all my software
[19:11] <holstein> havok: you think?
[19:11] <holstein> havok: dont cancel it
[19:11] <havok> Heh- I feel like I should have a notepad for everything I've tried to do, and yet everything has failed
[19:11] <holstein> havok: come here *before* doing anything
[19:11] <holstein> havok: right.. com here *first*
[19:11] <havok> Well, that's what started this all
[19:12] <holstein> havok: worst case, you need to reinstall.. not a big deal.. takes like 8 minutes to install ubuntu
[19:12] <havok> I was trying to connect using Empathy, but it wouldn't open IRC stuff
[19:12] <holstein> "open irc stuff"?
[19:13] <havok> SO, I looked it up on the net and found I needed to install telepathy-idle
[19:13] <havok> Sorry, I'm not at all competent with IRC.
[19:13] <holstein> you mean, empathy wouldnt open weblinks in a browser automatically?
[19:13] <havok> My jargon will be shameful, no doubt
[19:13] <holstein> havok: sure. i just dont know what that means
[19:13] <holstein> "open irc stuff"
[19:14] <havok> I wanted to connect to the Ubuntu IRC help channel
[19:14] <havok> On the website, it said the default Ubuntu IRC client was Empathy
[19:14] <holstein> havok: if you ask me, just install xchat and use it for chat
[19:14] <havok> Through the software manager?
[19:14] <holstein> OR, the freenode webchat.. or a broswer plugin
[19:15] <holstein> havok: however you feel comfortable installing softwrae
[19:15] <holstein> software*
[19:15] <holstein> you cant do it now.. wait til the upgrade is complete
[19:15] <holstein> "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[19:15] <havok> What does the apt-get mean? and sudo?
[19:15] <holstein> we will fix your broken google chrome install first
[19:15] <havok> Oh, OK
[19:15] <holstein> !sudo
[19:16] <holstein> !apt
[19:16] <havok> Woah, cool
[19:16] <havok> ! is ....a definition request?
[19:16] <holstein> sudo meant "make me root to have permission to do the following", apt-get install is basically "this is what i want to install" and xchat is the package name
[19:16] <holstein> !info xchat
[19:17] <holstein> !help
[19:17] <holstein> havok: the ! asks the bot.. its handy for links
[19:17] <havok> Huh- I thought it was a bot, but now, I'm "IRC client for X" What is "X"?
[19:18] <holstein> !xorg
[19:19] <havok> Sorry, my brain's trying to sort all this out :P
[19:20] <holstein> havok: well, dont worry about x.. you dont need to know what every little thing is right now.. you neeed to get your system back to stable, and get the tools you apparenly immediately need/want, and you can go from there
[19:20] <havok> This update has been taking a long while.. it's still "applying changes"
[19:20] <havok> But the progress bar is moving
[19:21] <holstein> havok: it will take as long as it takes to download a bunch of packages.. first one usually takes a while
[19:21] <havok> Oh, an all in one thing- Well, now it's saying it needs to restart, so brb
[19:27] <havok> OK, I have no idea what updates were installed, but I'm back
[19:28] <holstein> havok: you should read about them *before* installing them.. but.. open a terminal and type
[19:28] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove googld-chrome
[19:28] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove google-chrome
[19:28] <havok> Well, you're unarguably right there :(
[19:29] <havok> [sudo] password for havok:
[19:29] <havok> Reading package lists... Done
[19:29] <havok> Building dependency tree
[19:29] <havok> Reading state information... Done
[19:29] <havok> Package 'google-chrome' is not installed, so not removed
[19:29] <havok> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:29] <havok>   libnss3-1d libxss1 linux-headers-3.5.0-17
[19:29] <havok> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:29] <havok> After this operation, 58.8 MB disk space will be freed.
[19:29] <havok> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[19:29] <holstein> hit n, and enter
[19:29] <holstein> then, run...
[19:29] <holstein> gksudo gdebi-gtk
[19:30] <havok> oh, crap
[19:30] <havok> I apready y'd
[19:30] <holstein> you will navigate to the *.deb file that you downloaded
[19:30] <holstein> havok: no worries.. just *dont* do that in the future
[19:31] <havok> Ok, why would it uninstall something else if I told it to uninstall chrome?
[19:31] <holstein> havok: autoremove
[19:32] <havok> ...
[19:32] <havok> !autoremove
[19:32] <holstein> its like a "cleanup" command
[19:32] <holstein> anyways, run that other one, and lets get chrome installed
[19:33] <havok> what about  libnss3-1d libxss1 linux-headers-3.5.0-17 ? Did I remove them?
[19:35] <holstein> havok: yes.. they are "un-needed".. though i would have left them.. dont worry about it now
[19:37] <havok> OK, I imput gksudo gdebi-gtk, and nothing happened
[19:38] <holstein> havok: something should have opened
[19:38] <holstein> no?
[19:39] <havok> NOt that I see- It just went to the next line
[19:39] <holstein> havok: close everything again, and open a terminal back up
[19:39] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xchat gdebi-gtk
[19:39] <havok> Leave IRC up?
[19:39] <holstein> havok: yes. leave IRC open
[19:40] <havok> Reading package lists... Done
[19:40] <havok> Building dependency tree
[19:40] <havok> Reading state information... Done
[19:40] <havok> E: Unable to locate package gdebi-gtk
[19:40] <havok> havok@ubuntu:~$
[19:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:41] <havok> havok@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:41] <havok> Reading package lists... Done
[19:41] <havok> Building dependency tree
[19:41] <havok> Reading state information... Done
[19:41] <havok> The following extra packages will be installed:
[19:41] <havok>   libsexy2 tcl8.5 xchat-common
[19:41] <havok> Suggested packages:
[19:41] <havok>   tcl-tclreadline
[19:41] <havok> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[19:41] <havok>   libsexy2 tcl8.5 xchat xchat-common
[19:41] <havok> 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:41] <havok> Need to get 2,621 kB of archives.
[19:41] <havok> After this operation, 8,039 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[19:41] <havok> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[19:42] <holstein> havok: you dont need to, and shouldnt paste here
[19:42] <holstein> !paste | havok
[19:42] <holstein> havok: just give me the errors
[19:42] <holstein> but, yes, hit y
[19:42] <holstein> then.. sudo apt-get install gdebi
[19:44] <havok> hit y again at the prompt?
[19:44] <holstein> yes
[19:44] <holstein> then... gksudo gdebi-gtk
[19:45] <havok> OK, I *THINK* they're both installed
[19:45] <havok> OK
[19:45] <holstein> navigate to the .deb for google chrome you downloaded, and install
[19:45] <havok> A package installer opened
[19:48] <havok> Installation complete- I think
[19:48] <holstein> you can close everything, and look in your menu for chrome and xchat
[19:49] <holstein> i would use the system as much "as-is" as possible for a bit
[19:49] <holstein> i would keep your data backed up, and be preparded to break something, and have to reinstall
[19:49] <holstein> i would consider running a "testing" installation in virtualbox or VM somewhere to try things out in
[19:50] <holstein> i would have a different user account for testing
[19:50] <havok> Oh
[19:50] <havok> Why?
[19:50] <holstein> havok: if you are prompeted for a password, you need to ask your self "what is going on here.. did i ask for this? do i need this? what is happening?".. anytime you put in a sudo password you can really break things
[19:51] <holstein> i say that not to make you "afraid".. just knowlegable
[19:52] <holstein> havok: these are just easy ways to ensure you dont have a bad user experience
[19:52] <havok> Fair enough.
[19:54] <havok> OK, chrome is offiecially working, although it didn't sync my settings, checking out xfire
[19:55] <holstein> "it" will do whatever you set it up to do
[19:55] <holstein> again, i wouldnt worry about it too much right off
[19:55] <holstein> you literally just installed it 10 minutes ago
[20:00] <havok_> OK, I think I found the right channel in XFire- although I have a ways to go before I know what I'm doing
[20:02] <havok_> OK, I think this will be a much simpler question. I have an ACER that has a wifi card not in the default driver pack. How do I get drivers for it?
[20:02] <holstein> !broadcom
[20:02] <havok_> I believe they're proprietary, if that helps
[20:02] <holstein> ^^ thats usually what the card is
[20:02] <holstein> you can open a terminal and run "lspci" and look for the device and search
[20:03] <havok_> ... that's a big list
[20:03] <holstein> you can pastebin it if you need help, but there should be 2 that say anythingn about networking
[20:04] <havok_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n
[20:05] <havok_> I believe that's it.
[20:05] <havok_> Online, it said to look at an additional rivers program.....
[20:05] <havok_> Drivers*
[20:07] <holstein> i usually try sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[20:08] <havok_> Oh, maybe it was Mint that allowed me to enable the proprietary drivers
[20:11] <holstein> havok_: no, mint would be using that *dame* driver
[20:11] <holstein> havok_: did it work?
[20:11] <holstein> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer ??
[20:11] <havok_> hmmm. The Site you linked said to go  System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, but I installed Cinnamon, and I think it hid it
[20:12] <holstein> havok_: open a temrinal and type
[20:12] <holstein> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[20:12] <havok_> I was going down the page :P I hadn't gotten to the sudo you linke
[20:12] <holstein>  then hit enter
[20:13] <havok_> No chroot environment found. Starting normal installation
[20:13] <havok_> This card is actually not tested. Please install the driver manually.
[20:14] <holstein> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:17] <havok_> Huh
[20:18] <havok_> Warning: No support for locale: en_US.utf8
[20:18] <havok_> That was the last line
[20:18] <havok_> Then waiting for imput again
[20:18] <holstein> havok_: any other errors?
[20:18] <holstein> havok_: that error is fine...
[20:18] <havok_> Although
[20:19] <havok_> Under Software Sources-->Additional drivers, it lists an alternate for my wireless card
[20:19] <holstein> havok_: thats the driver.. use it
[20:19] <holstein> havok_: should be there
[20:19] <havok_> OK, cool
[20:20] <havok_> OK, seeing if it works!
[20:21] <holstein> might need to reboot
[20:51] <havok> Also, when I'm looking to install wine, The closest i can find in the software center is Microsoft windows Compat. Layer (meta pack) Is this wine?
[21:42] <havok> Is there a good place to learn more about Ubuntu? To get my feet wet and start to understand what I'm doing?