[01:18] <rickspencer3> RAOF, bryce, jasoncwarner_ I just did a dist-upgrade, reboot, and got some odd results
[01:18] <rickspencer3> specifically a dialog with entries such as ...
[01:18] <rickspencer3> none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:
[01:18] <rickspencer3> Trying modes for CRTC 63
[01:18] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1680x1050@60Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:18] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1280x1024@75Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:18] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1280x1024@60Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:18] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1152x864@75Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:18] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1024x768@75Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:19] <rickspencer3> CRTC 63: trying mode 1024x768@60Hz with output at 1680x945@60Hz (pass 0)
[01:19] <rickspencer3> etc...
[01:19] <rickspencer3> thoughts?
[01:20] <bryce> rickspencer3, got a screenshot of that?
[01:20] <rickspencer3> bryce, yah
[01:20] <rickspencer3> hold on
[01:21] <rickspencer3> http://ubuntuone.com/4NrVvia6dF1BSjHJ08pyxG
[01:21] <rickspencer3> bryce, ^
[01:21] <bryce> "Could not locate object"
[01:21] <rickspencer3> bryce, try again, it wasn't done syncing
[01:22] <bryce> ok there we go
[01:22] <bryce> hum, mysterious.  Can you look at your processes and see what process owns that dialog?
[01:22] <rickspencer3> bryce, er, I closed it
[01:22] <bryce> ah
[01:22] <rickspencer3> I can restart and try it again
[01:22]  * bryce googles
[01:23] <rickspencer3> bryce, for some reason I seem to recall I used to get 1900 pixels across
[01:23] <bryce> rickspencer3, my guess is that it belongs to gnome-settings-daemon
[01:23] <rickspencer3> but now get 1680
[01:23] <rickspencer3> hmmmm
[01:24] <bryce> rickspencer3, as a test, you could move aside ~/.config/monitors.xml and relogin and see if the dialog goes away
[01:24] <rickspencer3> ok
[01:24] <rickspencer3> bryce give me 5 mimnutes?
[01:25] <bryce> sure
[01:25] <rickspencer3> I'm getting pinged on another channel :/
[01:25]  * bryce grabs new coffee
[01:33] <rickspencer3> hi bryce
[01:33] <bryce> rickspencer3, hi
[01:34] <rickspencer3> bryce, I moved that config file out of the way
[01:34] <rickspencer3> rebooted
[01:34] <rickspencer3> and no dialog
[01:34]  * bryce nods
[01:34] <bryce> rickspencer3, silly gnome
[01:34] <rickspencer3> my feeling that I got gypped out of some screen resolution seems like a fantasy, though
[01:34] <rickspencer3> since my windows seem to be the correct size
[01:34] <rickspencer3> ish
[01:35] <bryce> rickspencer3, just a stale monitor.xml file apparently
[01:35] <rickspencer3> bryce, how does that happen? part of the dist-upgrade? should we not fix that?
[01:35] <bryce> rickspencer3, no idea; maybe seb128 knows a bug report on it
[01:36] <bryce> rickspencer3, if you want to shoot me all your files I can investigate in more depth.
[01:37] <bryce> rickspencer3, dmesg, xrandr, monitors.xml, Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf
[01:37] <rickspencer3> bryce, if I ubuntu-bug xorg will you get the files you need?
[01:38] <bryce> rickspencer3, yep
[01:38] <rickspencer3> ok
[01:38] <rickspencer3> I'll subscribe you when it's donw
[01:38] <rickspencer3> done, even
[01:39] <bryce> rickspencer3, you're on -intel right?
[01:39] <rickspencer3> bryce, correct
[01:39] <rickspencer3> i965, iirc
[01:42] <bryce> rickspencer3, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1138315
[01:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1138315 in gnome-settings-daemon "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors" [Low,New]
[01:42] <rickspencer3> bryce
[01:42] <rickspencer3> urk, I already logged this bug
[01:42] <bryce> no prob, I can just dupe
[01:43] <bryce> sometimes helpful to have the extra sets of log files
[01:44] <rickspencer3> bryce, bug #1145689
[01:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1145689 in xorg (Ubuntu) "error dialog due to problems monitors.xml file after dist-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1145689
[01:45] <rickspencer3> thanks bryce
[01:45] <bryce> rickspencer3, looks like seb's already aware of the bug
[01:46] <rickspencer3> ack
[01:46] <bryce> rickspencer3, oh, also if you still have the monitors.xml can you tack that onto the bug?
[01:46] <rickspencer3> yes
[01:47] <rickspencer3> bryce, done
[01:48] <bryce> rickspencer3, perfect.
[01:48] <rickspencer3> thanks bryce
[01:48] <rickspencer3> ttyt!
[01:59] <bryce> rickspencer3, so looking at all the logs, everything looks kosher on the X end of things.  I see this is a little hybrid dell box.  By chance have you had it plugged into a different monitor or projector recently?
[01:59] <rickspencer3> hi bryce
[01:59] <rickspencer3> nope, have not changed monitors
[01:59] <bryce> intriguing
[02:00]  * bryce studies further
[02:00] <rickspencer3> hey bryce I need to step away
[02:00] <rickspencer3> will be back tomorrow for UDS
[02:01] <bryce> rickspencer3, ok cya
[02:02] <bryce> rickspencer3, I'll probably leave the bug to seb128, but will poke through stuff and see if I can find out what caused this
[02:06]  * Samoorai rebooting entire virtual network aka host reboot.. bbiab (3 vms, 1 host all GRRRR!)
[04:10] <desrt> what's the deal with the i386 builders?
[04:10] <desrt> uploaded 14 hours ago and still waiting?
[04:13] <Sarvatt> desrt: welcome to the world of PPAs, where firefox/chromium dailies screw up the world :)
[04:14] <Sarvatt> except this time it looks like private jobs of some sort that are doing it..
[06:34] <RAOF> How many .au folk are going to be showing up for UDS.
[06:34] <RAOF> ?
[06:36] <mlankhorst> g'day mate
[06:38] <duflu> RAOF: Unlikely. It's 10pm - 4am. I just got over jet lag from the sprint :P
[06:39] <pitti> Good morning
[06:43] <RAOF> I might make it for the last session, at 6am
[07:00] <didrocks> good morning
[07:00] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:00] <mlankhorst> I like how lightning talks are still planned in, it's not the same!
[07:03] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:15] <dpm> morning all
[07:26] <didrocks> hey dpm
[07:26] <dpm> morning didrocks
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[08:58] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> oh, today is going to be fun
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> i have a sad panda this morning
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> it's locked up twice already :/
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks
[09:03] <Laney> hey
[09:03]  * Laney shivers
[09:03] <Laney> cold this morning
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> i've not looked outside
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:04]  * chrisccoulson has the curtains closed
[09:04] <Laney> fog
[09:04] <Laney> greyness - you know, the usual
[09:04] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:04] <Laney> how goes?
[09:05] <didrocks> good, thanks. yourself?
[09:06] <Laney> can't complain
[09:06] <Laney> hoping the bike shop will call me today to tell me my new bike is ready to test ride ;-)
[09:10] <seb128> hey desktopers
[09:10] <seb128> hey didrocks chrisccoulson Laney, how are you?
[09:10] <Laney> catching up on my daily -devel backlog :P
[09:10] <seb128> I did some shuffling on the UDS schedule, please check and let me know if there is any conflict or missing session
[09:10] <didrocks> hey seb128!
[09:11] <seb128> didrocks, lut ;-)
[09:56] <pitti> bonjour seb128 et didrocks, comment allez-vous?
[09:56] <pitti> hey laney
[09:56] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi?
[09:57] <didrocks> pitti: super que tu ais commenté comment générer la documentation pygi sur g+ :)
[09:57] <pitti> didrocks: je suis trés hereux que le printemps est arrivé!
[09:57] <pitti> I already forgot what the sun looked like
[09:57] <didrocks> pitti: ah? le printemps était là hier (16°C, soleil). Aujourd'hui, il est un peu moins présent… :(
[09:58] <pitti> il fait encore froid, mais il fait beau
[09:59] <pitti> didrocks: s/g+/blog/ :)
[09:59] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, I got reminded by the side-thread on u-devel@ about developer APIs
[09:59] <didrocks> pitti: trop de sources d'informations :)
[09:59] <pitti> didrocks: en effet..
[10:00] <seb128> pitti, salut, ca va bien, et toi ?
[10:00] <seb128> pitti, ici il fait beau mais ils ont prévu le retour des nuages demain :-(
[10:01] <pitti> seb128: je suis curieux comment UDS va foctionner aujourd'hui :)
[10:01] <seb128> pitti, j'espère que ca va bien marcher
[10:34] <seb128> pitti, hum, do you know about bugs with your recent pygobject update?
[10:34] <seb128> gi/overrides/__init__.py", line 35, in __setitem__
[10:34] <seb128>     raise KeyError('You have tried to modify the registry outside of the overrides module.  This is not allowed')
[10:34] <pitti> seb128: not yet; I had it blocked from propagation until all teh autopkgtests ran
[10:34] <seb128> (gedit:16285): libpeas-WARNING **: Error loading plugin 'codecomment'
[10:34] <seb128> pitti, gedit does that to me today
[10:34] <pitti> hm, which plugin do I need for this?
[10:35] <seb128> codecomment I guess :p
[10:35] <seb128> gedit-plugins: /usr/lib/gedit/plugins/codecomment.py
[10:35] <Laney> pitti: did you ask for it to be unblocked?
[10:35] <pitti> Laney: yes, infinity did that
[10:36] <Laney> ah, yeah
[10:36] <Laney> just wondering if it was on request
[10:36] <pitti> seb128: ah, can reproduce
[10:36] <seb128> pitti, great
[10:36] <seb128> pitti, want a bug report?
[10:36] <pitti> yes, please
[10:36] <seb128> pitti, bugzilla or launchpad?
[10:37] <pitti> seb128: as you wish; perhaps LP, I'll forward it then
[10:37] <pitti> ah, I think I know what's wrong
[10:39] <seb128> pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/+bug/1146567
[10:39] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1146567 in pygobject "gedit's "codecomment" raises a KeyError since the recent update" [Undecided,New]
[10:39] <pitti> seb128: merci
[10:39] <seb128> pitti, merci à toi ! ;-)
[10:41] <pitti> seb128: je suis desolé, je vais le corriger maintenant
[10:42] <seb128> pitti, pas de soucis, merci ;-)
[10:42] <ara> seb128, ping
[10:42] <seb128> ara, hey
[10:42] <seb128> ara, how are you?
[10:42] <ara> seb128, good, thanks! yourself?
[10:42] <ara> I guess busy busy :)
[10:43] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[10:43] <ara> is there any free slots in the client track for this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/checkbox/+spec/client-1303-new-checkbox-core-plainbox
[10:43] <seb128> yeah, always busy, especially this week with UDS ;-)
[10:43] <ara> it is a tool both used in the client and the server, so, technically, it could fit both
[10:43] <ara> maybe in that case is better suited for foundations?
[10:44] <seb128> ara, I can put it in the foundations slot today at 16utc or 18:15 utc
[10:44] <seb128> ara, which one do you prefer?
[10:45] <ara> 16utc would be best, thanks!
[10:47] <seb128> ara, yw
[10:47] <seb128> ara, hum, is there any way you could move that blueprint to "ubuntu"?
[10:47] <ara> seb128, we could try. is that important?
[10:47] <seb128> ara, it's against the checkbox product
[10:47] <seb128> ara, the scheduler doesn't list it since it's not an ubuntu spec
[10:48] <seb128> ara, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/checkbox/+spec/client-1303-new-checkbox-core-plainbox/+retarget
[10:48] <seb128> ara, that url should allow you to do it
[10:48] <ara> seb128, done, thanks!
[10:48] <seb128> ara, thanks you!
[11:21] <seb128> ara, ok, you are on schedule, foundations 1 - 16:00: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/2013-03-05/display
[11:21] <ara> seb128, great, thanks a lot!
[11:21] <seb128> yw ;-)
[11:29] <hema> Hi people.
[11:30] <Guest60788> I am an old user of Ubuntu desktop.
[11:30] <Guest60788> thougt of using ubuntu 12 now.
[11:30] <Guest60788> has canonical stopped shipping the CD's ?
[11:31] <maxb> yes
[11:31] <Guest60788> oh :( sad of that.
[11:31] <Guest60788> the only way is to download?
[11:32] <maxb> Unless you find some local unofficial distributor, I believe so
[11:32] <Guest60788> uh... okay...
[11:32] <Guest60788> thanks Max..
[11:39] <pitti> seb128: fixed pygobject uploaded
[12:58] <seb128> pitti, danke
[13:26] <Sweetshark> so, libcmis breaks horribly on its tests on armhf when compiled with gcc-4.7, so I just tried to make it build on gcc 4.6, which works except that I cant use that as 4.6 is in universe by now and I need libcmis is main. Whats the proper way to proceed?
[13:27] <Sweetshark> can I only file a bug and wait for gcc to get its act together?
[13:27] <Sweetshark> seb128: ^^
[13:28] <seb128> Sweetshark, open a bug, against gcc-4.7, with the details
[13:28] <seb128> then ping doko, promise him some free beers if needed
[13:29] <seb128> or just build-depends on gcc-4.6, wait for that to show in component mismatch and doko will probably find you :p
[13:43] <Sweetshark> hmm, no doko on IRC ...
[13:46] <czajkowski> perhaps if you break something he'll appear
[13:46] <czajkowski> kinda like beetlejuice
[13:46] <TheMuso> Hey folks.
[13:52] <desrt> good morning hackers
[13:52] <didrocks> hey desrt
[13:52] <Sweetshark> czajkowski: does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.7/+bug/1146903 count?
[13:52] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1146903 in gcc-4.7 "gcc-4.7 causes libcmis FTBFS on armhf, regression against 4.6" [Undecided,New]
[13:53]  * Sweetshark waves at desrt.
[13:53] <czajkowski> Sweetshark: as long as you dont break LP today I'm all happy
[13:54] <Sweetshark> czajkowski: ah, we (libreoffice) decided to break lp no more than once a week to give it some time for rest and regroup ...
[13:54] <czajkowski> if you wake wgrant up, be it on your head :)
[13:55] <desrt> seb128: lots of packages!
[13:55] <desrt> seb128: too bad the builders are so slow lately :(
[13:55] <desrt> seb128: good morning, btw :)
[13:56] <seb128> desrt, hey, yeah, I noticed some builder backlog recently as well
[13:57] <desrt> seb128: i checked last night after coming back home and before sleeping.... some jobs you submitted were still waiting after 14 hours
[13:58] <desrt> i386 seems particularly bad
[13:58] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/builders
[13:58] <seb128> 28 builders working for i386
[13:58] <Sweetshark> sounds like I should throw some libreoffice over the fence.
[13:58] <seb128> not sure how many we had yesterday
[13:58] <seb128> but it seems like it's catching up
[13:59] <desrt> Sweetshark: step away from the button, son
[14:00] <didrocks> yeah, unity delay wasn't that bad this morning
[14:00] <Sweetshark> maybe just sticking to the lets-bury-the-builders-for-feature-freeze tradition ?
[14:00] <didrocks> finished late, but was ok
[14:00] <desrt> seb128: so there are 7 packages here
[14:00] <desrt> there was supposed to be 8
[14:00] <desrt> but i can't remember what the 8th one was :)
[14:00] <seb128> which one is missing?
[14:00]  * desrt counted them out to larsu last night...
[14:01] <desrt> larsu: systemd-shim, systemd, g-s-d, g-c-c, indicator-datetime, polkit-policies, ubuntu-system-service
[14:01] <desrt> what is missing?
[14:02] <BigWhale> There's now link from uds.ubuntu.com  to http://summit.ubuntu.com ...
[14:03] <czajkowski> seb128: which buildds are cauing you pain ?
[14:03] <desrt> oh well.  maybe i counted wrong
[14:03] <desrt> happy UDS, everyone!
[14:03] <didrocks> happy UDS desrt :)
[14:04] <mlankhorst> the audio compression hurts :(
[14:04] <BigWhale> one benefit of online sessions ... I can drink beer/cider _during_ the sessions!
[14:04] <desrt> BigWhale: you'll find straight gin to be more effective for some sessions
[14:05] <desrt> default web browser selection, for example
[14:05] <BigWhale> yeah for Xorg/Mir session
[14:05] <BigWhale> :D
[14:06] <jcastro> seb128: wow, he pronounced your name right! I can't do that.
[14:06] <jcastro> (plenary)
[14:06] <seb128> jcastro, no he didn't :p
[14:07] <seb128> jcastro, you don't pronounce the "r" :p
[14:07] <jcastro> oh, well it sounded way better than when I try it
[14:07] <kenvandine> there's a plenary?
[14:08] <didrocks> kenvandine: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21601/introduction/
[14:08] <didrocks> have you click on the link in the schedule? :p
[14:08] <didrocks> no mterry has well, skipping plenary! :)
[14:08] <didrocks> as*
[14:08] <desrt> charles: hey.  this pthread linking issue is causing jenkins to reject my branch
[14:08] <desrt> plz fix :)
[14:08] <kenvandine> i didn't see that anywhere...
[14:17] <didrocks> etherpad seems to not really scale, isn't it?
[14:17] <popey> \o/ gobby
[14:17] <ogra_> back to gobby !
[14:17] <ogra_> hah
[14:17] <didrocks> :)
[14:17] <popey> i logged into gobby.ubuntu.com the other day, didn't realise it was still up
[14:24] <attente> seb128: can you take a look at these when convenient? https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/no-menu-proxy/+merge/151568 and https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk2-no-menu-proxy/+merge/151619
[14:25] <attente> it seemed like the desktop-ppa's gtks still had the menu proxy patch
[14:26] <seb128> attente, hey, will do, but maybe not today, we have UDS today (started half an hour ago)
[14:26] <seb128> attente, hey, we had those patches in the ppa, but those version got deprecated by new uploads to raring
[14:26] <seb128> like indicator-appmenu got a landing with the hud splitted
[14:26] <attente> seb128: ah.. no wonder
[14:26] <didrocks> am I the only one to see a red bar progressing where we have the duration on youtube normally?
[14:26] <seb128> we need to rebase on that
[14:27] <cyphermox> didrocks: mine just says En direct, no red bar progress (it's at the end)
[14:27] <seb128> didrocks, I see a red bar but not progressing
[14:27] <attente> didrocks: i see the red bar
[14:28] <didrocks> seb128: it was at the beginning at the start of the show
[14:28]  * didrocks wonders what will happen when (soon), the red bar will reach the end
[14:28] <cyphermox> haha
[14:28] <cyphermox> perhaps there is some buffering and you can pause, skip ahead, etc?
[14:28] <cyphermox> ie. maube you're not watching direct right now?
[14:28] <didrocks> maybe, I just hope this won't cut at some point
[14:28] <seb128> attente, can you rebase you indicator-appmenu branch on the current trunk? will make easier to get updates in the ppa again
[14:29] <seb128> attente, I will try to get back the gtk patches back in there this week as well
[14:29] <cyphermox> attente: lp:indicator-appmenu, I'll review as seen as I see a merge request
[14:29] <cyphermox> argh, I can't type today
[14:29] <attente> seb128, cyphermox sure
[14:30] <seb128> attente, thanks
[14:30] <seb128> attente, how is the testing work going? things will be easier once we can land the new source in the archive
[14:31] <attente> seb128: i only managed to write a few tests combining autopilot and atspi, i got a bit blocked because one of the tests is strangely failing
[14:32] <alesage> attente, the autopilot tests?
[14:33] <seb128> didrocks, cyphermox: how much testing for the new menus do you require for the thing to land?
[14:33] <attente> alesage, yes
[14:33] <cyphermox> seb128: attente: tests included in the merge for new stuff, tests passing
[14:33] <didrocks> seb128: I would say that we get basic coverage: ensuring the menu is exported, opening a menu, acting on something, ensuring it's act
[14:33] <attente> alesage: for one of the tests, the behaviour differs when i do it manually vs using autopilot
[14:34] <cyphermox> I mean, all the autopilot stuff, to go along with any new tests to verify the new functionality
[14:34] <seb128> cyphermox, didrocks: thanks
[14:34] <attente> cyphermox: thanks
[14:35] <alesage> attente, is this in the unity-gtk-module trunk?
[14:35] <attente> alesage: yes
[14:35] <alesage> attente ok
[14:36] <attente> alesage, the failing test is the tests.GeditTestCase.test_file_new, but i commented out the assertions that cause it to fail
[14:36] <alesage> attente ok I'll have a look
[14:36] <attente> thanks
[15:27] <highvoltage> jbicha: heya! what's the gdm fallback session? it's unrelated to the gnome-fallback-session, right?
[15:27] <highvoltage> ah craperola
[15:56] <desrt> attente: hey.  why didn't you land the indicator-appmenu changes yet?
[15:56] <desrt> the PPA version of the package keeps falling behind...
[15:58] <attente> desrt: working on it...
[15:58] <desrt> attente: looks like your merge proposal includes a copy of hudmenumodelcollector.c ?
[16:00] <attente> desrt: yes
[16:00] <desrt> is that on purpose?
[16:01] <attente> i'm not really following what you mean...
[16:01] <desrt> the diff at the bottom of the page here: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/indicator-appmenu/indicator-appmenu/+merge/143531
[16:02] <desrt> vs. current trunk it adds back a copy of hudmenumodelcollector.c
[16:02] <desrt> i think that's probably a mistake
[16:03] <desrt> i think your branch ended up on both sides of the hud-removal work...
[16:03] <desrt> i'd almost just start over again.... something has gone very badly here
[16:03] <attente> yeah... you're right
[16:04] <attente> i did the merge and it kept the old file
[16:04] <desrt> just take the good parts of the diff (ie: the actual work, plus the tests) and start over
[16:04] <desrt> push a new branch and merge-request it
[16:04] <desrt> bzr has made a complete mess of this branch... i fear to imagine what might happen if you tried to merge this into trunk at this point
[16:06] <attente> sure, thanks desrt
[16:07] <larsu> attente: push it into the same merge request though, with `bzr push --overwrite`
[16:10] <desrt> seb128: maybe we could get an updated gtk3.7 in the PPA dropping the menu proxy patch?
[16:14] <desrt> seb128: or please add me to the desktop team :)
[16:27] <highvoltage> jbicha: hey :)
[16:31] <jbicha> highvoltage: aloha
[16:37] <seb128> desrt, I plan to get the gtk2/gtk3/indicator-appmenu updated in the ppa again soon, I was waiting on the indicator-appmenu patch to be rebased and for the new gtk to be out
[16:38] <seb128> bonus point if jbicha updates gtk2 first in raring
[16:38] <seb128> ;-)
[16:38] <seb128> last time he overwrote my ppa version the new day by uploading the new version, rebased on debian, in raring
[16:40] <jbicha> seb128: I saw there was another gtk2 update ;)
[16:40] <seb128> jbicha, right, want to do it? ;-)
[16:42] <desrt> seb128: can you add me to desktop team?
[16:43] <seb128> desrt, no
[16:43] <desrt> ok
[16:43] <seb128> desrt, that team gives upload rights for GNOME to the archive
[16:43] <seb128> desrt, it needs +1 from 3 members and official ack from the DBM
[16:44] <seb128> desrt, maybe you can use your ppa? I can do ppa copies from launchpad so it would be easier to move them to the desktop ppa from yours
[16:45] <jbicha> seb128: not this time, I'm a bit busy this week & I don't need it for gnome-themes-standard like happened last time
[16:45] <seb128> like it would be one click to copy your ppa over
[16:45] <desrt> seb128: i don't really have anything specific i want to do right now if you have a plan for gtk...
[16:45] <seb128> jbicha, ok
[16:45] <desrt> i just wanted to stop bothering you in the future
[16:45] <seb128> desrt, if you are interested in packaging and do enough you can join the team, but I doubt that's the case
[16:45] <seb128> desrt, just use your ppa and ping me for copies
[16:46] <desrt> k
[16:46] <seb128> copy is a click away
[16:57] <didrocks> seb128: well, copy after looking over a *verrrryyyyy* long list of ppa owners :)
[16:57] <seb128> Laney, how was the rolling release session? any outcome?
[16:58] <didrocks> yeah, I followed the end as well, but I don't see any outcome :)
[16:58] <seb128> didrocks, right, still better than doing the packaging and upload :p
[16:58] <Laney> There was a reasonable level of support for keeping Raring but no decision
[16:58] <Laney> based on the fact that this is what was planned for
[16:58] <didrocks> seb128: if you compare lazyness-wise, right ;)
[16:58] <seb128> Laney, with Canonical resources allocated for security and SRUs?
[16:58] <Laney> the OEM (System 76) were pretty against that as a lot of their users like to get new stuff
[16:58] <Laney> seb128: possibly, yeah
[16:59] <seb128> k
[16:59] <seb128> interesting
[16:59] <Laney> as in planning properly to do this rolilng thing afterwards
[16:59]  * seb128 hates doing SRUs for nonLTS versions
[16:59]  * seb128 wants to stop that
[17:00] <seb128> I got fed up with quantal SRUs, that's eating days and a good part doesn't get verified at the end
[17:00] <seb128> well I guess we could find a middle ground and we low on SRUs
[17:00] <seb128> just do the security work
[17:01] <Laney> right
[17:04] <Laney> It's more of a doing what we promised to do and what people (including some OEMs apparently) have based their time/business on
[17:05] <Laney> even if it's not working we need to give the right amount of time for people to adjust
[17:06] <seb128> I'm fine doing a release, as long as it's not a maintenance time sink
[17:06] <seb128> but well, we never gave garanties on the number of SRUs we do
[17:06] <Laney> indeed
[17:06] <Laney> we didn't do the whole gnome point release for Quantal for example
[17:06] <Laney> so there's already some precedent there
[17:06] <seb128> right
[17:06] <seb128> we tend to not do it in nonLTS cycles for a while
[17:07] <seb128> we don't have the resources for it
[17:07] <Laney> yeah
[17:07] <Laney> we'll see
[17:17] <Laney> seb128: can you CC me if you email people about the maliit stuff?
[17:17] <Laney> AFAIK the patches went upstream
[17:18] <seb128> Laney, ok, will do, thanks
[17:18] <Laney> as in murray pushed them all so there's no fork any more
[17:18] <Laney> well, once they release
[17:24] <seb128> Laney, what about the UI? nemo was it?
[17:24] <Laney> I think they use nemo currently but the target is the maliit keyboard
[17:24] <Laney> nemo is the N9 one
[17:24] <Laney> http://www.murrayc.com/permalink/2013/03/04/maliit-keyboard-improvements/
[17:25] <seb128> ok
[17:25] <seb128> is any of those qt5?
[17:25] <Laney> yeah nemo is
[17:25] <Laney> err, they both are*
[17:25] <seb128> ok
[17:25] <Laney> in trunk, not raring AFAIK
[17:27] <seb128> Laney, I see, thanks for the blogpost link and the details ;)
[17:27] <Laney> np
[17:28] <Laney> http://lists.maliit.org/pipermail/maliit-announce-maliit.org/2013-February/000026.html "Our main focus will be the master branch where we will drop support for Qt 4 and only focus on Qt 5 quite soon. This branch is intended for anybody who wants or needs to keep using Maliit with Qt 4. "
[18:56] <kenvandine> seb128, qml-friends is in sourceNEW... when you get a chance for a review :)
[18:56] <seb128> kenvandine, will do after end of UDS and dinner ;-)
[18:56] <seb128> or tomorrow morning
[18:57] <kenvandine> cool
[18:57] <kenvandine> did you see the video i posted?
[18:57] <kenvandine> i got some more time for hacking last night :)
[18:59] <kenvandine> it's no longer desktop friendly though... we need tedg to fix hud 2.0 :)
[19:00] <didrocks> and tedg is in fix mode! :)
[19:11] <mterry> Guh, just had to reboot to fix my camera.
[19:12] <didrocks> mterry: you didn't want to show that you are in night suits, admit it! :)
[19:13] <didrocks> mterry: more seriously, had exactly the same issue yesterday
[19:13] <mterry> "night suits"  Had to look that up
[19:14] <didrocks> mterry: what's the term btw?
[19:15] <didrocks> mterry: pyjama, really?
[19:15] <mterry> didrocks, sleepwear too
[19:15] <didrocks> interesting
[19:16] <mterry> didrocks, I like night suits though
[19:17] <didrocks> mterry: well, I tried to use some tentative descriptive words :)
[19:17] <mterry> didrocks, I'll try to get it to catch on over here
[19:17] <didrocks> \o/
[19:20] <robru> didrocks, mterry : http://tiwibzone.tiwib.netdna-cdn.com/images/suit-pajamas.jpg
[19:21] <attente> lol
[19:21] <didrocks> robru: what I'm wearing everynights
[19:21] <didrocks> :)
[19:21] <mterry> :)
[20:01] <mterry> seb128, my overlay scrollbar seems a bit wonky in rhythmbox with desktop-ppa.  is that something others are seeing?
[20:01] <mterry> specifically in the library list of songs
[20:01] <seb128> mterry, nobody mentioned it yet, but nobody mentioned the theme bugs or the screenshot issue so I guess very few people use the ppa
[20:04]  * didrocks waves good evening
[20:44] <mterry> robert_ancell, didn't you have some lightdm fixes you were going to make and then a release?
[20:45] <robert_ancell> mterry, test fixes, but that doesn't need to block the release
[20:45] <robert_ancell> mterry, is there something that needs a release now?
[20:45] <mterry> robert_ancell, not really.  Just remembered that the qt5 bindings hadn't hit raring, but nothing needs them quite yet
[20:46] <robert_ancell> mterry, ok
[20:46] <robert_ancell> mterry, I'm busy at the moment but I'll try and make a release
[20:47] <mterry> robert_ancell, no rush
[21:09] <desrt> charles: >:|
[21:10] <desrt> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/133069884/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.indicator-datetime_12.10.3daily13.02.06-0ubuntu2~build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz