[08:45] <FourDollars> Is preseed/early_command executed before X or after X ?
[08:45] <FourDollars> Before X starts or after X starts?
[10:30] <xnox> FourDollars..... it is run from initramfs by casper.
[10:30]  * xnox hopes you read irclogs.ubuntu.com =)
[10:36] <|Frederik> I'm using the 13.04 server installer. If I create a logical volume with LVM and use that as a physical encrypted volume for /, would that work?
[10:38] <xnox> |Frederik: all nested combinations of ecryptfs/raid/lvm should work.
[10:39] <|Frederik> thanks
[10:40] <xnox> |Frederik: worst that can happen it will fail to boot and drop you into initramfs or grub..... Typically one creates encrypted volume and then puts lvm pv inside it.
[10:40]  * xnox has encrypted lvm /
[10:44] <cjwatson> Yeah, putting encryption *inside* LVM is pretty odd
[10:46] <infinity> Makes perfect sense to me.
[10:47] <infinity> If you want a bunch of LVM volumes and only want some encrypted.
[10:47] <infinity> (Say, /home, and /var encrypted, while / is not)
[10:48] <StevenK> I think I have a encrypted backing volume with LVM on top which has everything bar /usr
[10:48] <infinity> Or whatever.
[10:48] <cjwatson> Possibly, but it would be easier to have multiple VGs in that case so that you don't have to enter your passphrase multiple times.
[11:07] <xnox> infinity: yeah, I have one encrypted vg and one unecrypted. sure that fixed my sizes, but i did a "sensible" sizing for my needs.
[11:08] <infinity> xnox: Yeah, I've given up on assuming I know what sensible is whenever I have a multi-partition layout.  That's the whole reason I use LVM in the first place.
[11:20] <cjwatson> Can you resize an encrypted filesystem anyway?
[11:23] <|Frederik> Installation on an acer aspire s7 in uefi mode always results in uefi firmware stating that there is no bootable device
[11:31] <cjwatson> Some UEFI firmware is really broken.  On my HP EliteBook, it's clearly only there for experimental purposes - it doesn't follow the spec for what counts as bootable at all, and you have to "Boot from EFI File" to make it work
[11:32] <cjwatson> Is /wg 29
[11:32] <cjwatson> Sigh
[11:32] <|Frederik> oh, on my elitebook efi booting seems to work fine for debian.
[11:33] <cjwatson> Depends on the version, no doubt
[11:36] <|Frederik> I managed to get it to work with some efibootmgr -c -l
[12:20] <xnox> cjwatson: yes, it is possible to resize encrypted filesystem both down and up. But one has to do it in order, e.g. to shrink start with the most inner one, to expand with the most outer one.
[12:49] <cjwatson> Right
[12:49] <cjwatson> Reminds me, I must look at fsadm