| luc37 | will Mir be available on *BSDs? ;) | 04:52 |
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| duflu | luc37: I think that will be a direct function of Mir's success on Linux first. But there's no reason why not... eventually :) | 05:07 |
| luc37 | haha! I think Mir sounds too wonderful to be real | 05:10 |
| luc37 | or everyone hates the x server, i guess ;) | 05:11 |
| luc37 | duflu: well, if it's a simpler solution than wayland, let's hope the best for Mir | 05:24 |
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| tvoss | Good morning :) | 07:10 |
| llstarks | why go mir instead of iss or opsek? | 07:12 |
| llstarks | canonical is living the past | 07:12 |
| llstarks | lololololololol according to slashdot et all | 07:13 |
| llstarks | *al | 07:13 |
| zAo^2_ | Which license is used for Mir? | 07:43 |
| RAOF | GPL3 for the core; LGPL3 for the client libraries. | 07:44 |
| zAo^2_ | Thanks RAOF | 07:52 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:10 |
| AlanBell | why doesn't libgl1-mesa-dri in the ppa contain libgallium.so.0? | 08:10 |
| tvoss | RAOF, can you help AlanBell? | 08:15 |
| tjaalton | likely because it's based on an older packaging | 08:15 |
| tjaalton | we have 9.1 on a staging ppa with the shared libgallium build sorted out, iirc | 08:15 |
| tjaalton | yup | 08:20 |
| tjaalton | that's canonical-x/x-staging ;) | 08:22 |
| tjaalton | without the mir bits | 08:22 |
| zAo^2_ | Can someone explain to me how Canonical make the schedule for Mir? | 08:31 |
| tvoss | zAo^2_, happy to explain. What are you interested in especially? | 08:33 |
| zAo^2_ | tvoss: well, how can such a small team complete such a huge project within a year? | 08:34 |
| tvoss | zAo^2_, first, the team is small in terms of numbers right now. That might change in the future. Second, number of developers is not always a good measure for efficiency | 08:36 |
| zAo^2_ | tvoss: True, but still; it's a major task don't you think? | 08:37 |
| tvoss | zAo^2_, sure, I do fully agree, but we are confident about our timelines | 08:38 |
| zAo^2_ | tvoss: I really hope you make it. X needs to be put to rest. When can we expect the first alpha that can run (any sort of) desktop apps? | 08:40 |
| tvoss | zAo^2_, thank you :) in between May 2013 and October 2013, we are focusing on the Ubuntu touch use-case right now, aiming for full convergence by April 2014 | 08:44 |
| AlanBell | tjaalton: ok, so it doesn't work without that it seems | 09:03 |
| AlanBell | hmm, I had it complaining about the lack of libgallium.so.0 earlier, now it just segfaults | 09:09 |
| Cheery | I read about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec today. | 09:53 |
| Cheery | and this might interest anyone working with Mir: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/529486/general-graphics-programming/direct-rendering-access-on-linux/ | 09:53 |
| Cheery | I don't know.. but it feels to me that nvidia pretty much ignores anything that's related to opening a display context through any other way than glx. | 09:58 |
| Cheery | I just wonder how you're going to do it. | 09:59 |
| RAOF | Via the magic of EGL :) | 10:00 |
| RAOF | More seriously, as mentioned on the MirSpec page, we're in discussion with nvidia. | 10:01 |
| Cheery | if you're smart, I guess you'll try to come up with an API that would work also for wayland and whatever anyone else is doing. | 10:07 |
| Cheery | anyway I'd hope I'll get some announcement once you get results. | 10:08 |
| RAOF | If all goes well, yeah. | 10:10 |
| AlanBell | anyone got it working on Raring? | 10:11 |
| RAOF | I'm using it right now; xmir-on-mir-on-ati. | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | ok, the client just segfaults for me | 10:12 |
| RAOF | But I'm not sure if I'm using the same stuff as has landed in the public PPA :) | 10:13 |
| AlanBell | I am using mir from trunk | 10:13 |
| zyga | alf_: hey :) | 10:13 |
| alf_ | zyga: Hi! | 10:13 |
| AlanBell | mesa from https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring | 10:13 |
| zyga | alf_: good work, to all of the team :) | 10:14 |
| alf_ | zyga: thanks | 10:14 |
| Cheery | can I try out Mir on my desktop already? | 10:18 |
| vibhav | Is it possible to have libx11\libxcb wrappers for Mir? | 11:06 |
| vibhav | We could probably support more software/drivers then. | 11:06 |
| tjaalton | you have xmir for that | 11:07 |
| vibhav | tjaalton: ah, thanks | 11:09 |
| AlanBell | Cheery: if you are on raring you can add the PPA to get the patched mesa packages and download and build the source from trunk | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | it segfaults for me, but I would be interested in someone else's results from doing this | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | I am astonished that there are no screenshots or videos to say how wonderful it is | 11:17 |
| tvoss | AlanBell, working on that :) | 11:18 |
| vibhav | I should start contributing to this project now | 11:25 |
| jjardon | Hi, is the code for the GTK+ backend available somewhere? | 11:25 |
| tvoss | jjardon, nope, not yet | 11:26 |
| tvoss | AlanBell, ping | 12:45 |
| AlanBell | hi tvoss | 12:50 |
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| chenxiaolong | Hi Mir developers! | 22:39 |
| chenxiaolong | Does anyone know when the XMir code will be released? lp:~rocket-scientists/xserver/xmir | 22:39 |
| RAOF | chenxiaolong: Ah. I haven't pushed that publicly yet? Whoops | 22:45 |
| RAOF | chenxiaolong: You should be able to get just the source, but not the branch, from the PPA though? | 22:47 |
| chenxiaolong | RAOF: I'm not seeing the source in the PPA yet | 22:56 |
| chenxiaolong | You're talking about ppa:mir-team/staging, right? | 22:56 |
| llstarks | RAOF, are we taking bets on whether mesa-devel accepts your proposal? | 23:00 |
| RAOF | I don't really expect significant pushback on that. | 23:05 |
| RAOF | It's self-contained, there are already 3 other platforms. | 23:05 |
| llstarks | cool | 23:17 |
| llstarks | RAOF, does mir work with edgers? | 23:56 |
| RAOF | No; you need some mesa patches. | 23:57 |
| llstarks | okay i'll downgrade | 23:57 |
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