[00:04] <DarthFrog> Hi folks, Brand-new install of Kubuntu Raring 13.04.  I'm trying to set up Myth and get this: http://pastebin.com/uYNuaf04
[00:05] <DarthFrog> Is this a known issue, perchance?
[00:30] <superm1> DarthFrog: nope, looks like it's probably an API change that's happened
[00:30] <superm1> not at all your fault, but we do need to get that fixed
[00:30] <superm1> can you get a bug filed?
[00:30] <DarthFrog> Against aptdaemon?
[00:30] <superm1> yeah
[00:31] <superm1> ubuntu-bug aptdaemon should be sufficient
[00:31] <superm1> and then add that trace
[00:31] <DarthFrog> Or mythbuntu-control-centre?
[00:31] <superm1> against aptdaemon
[00:31] <superm1> it's an aptdaemon bug from the looks of it
[00:31] <DarthFrog> OK.
[00:32] <superm1> oh wait it is filed...
[00:32] <superm1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/1108552
[00:32] <superm1> the aptdaemon bug manager hasn't commented on it yet though
[00:32] <DarthFrog> Oh good.  I hate filing bugs, makes me feel like I'm trapped in a maze of twisty passages, all alike.
[00:33] <DarthFrog> I was looking at that bug in mythbuntu-control-centre, couldn't find it in aptdaemon.
[00:35] <DarthFrog> I just added a "me, too" comment to the aptdaemon bug report.
[00:37] <superm1> cool
[00:38] <DarthFrog> Nuisance.  Removing aptdaemon does nothing, mythbuntu-control-centre still doesn't start.  Same bug, even though aptdaemon has been removed.
[01:34] <DarthFrog> OK, I managed to work around the control-centre/aptdaemon bug by doing things manually.  Given that mythtv-setup didn't want to run due to database mismatch (I had been running 0.27 previously and Raring installs 0.26), it was ... fun.    Yeah, that's the ticket, fun.  :-)
[01:43] <superm1> hah i see
[01:48] <tgm4883> we should have 0.27 builds for raring right?
[01:49] <tgm4883> yes we do
[01:49] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, so you should have been able to just install the 0.27 packages and start it
[02:19] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  Yes, but figing out how to do so was a bit tricky.
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[17:19] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  I filed a bug report yesterday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/1108552 about mythbuntu-control-centre not starting in Raring due to problem with aptdaemon.  A dev commented that  " mythubuntu control center uses the ancient python gtk2 bindings.  Are there any plans to go for python3, gtk3 and gobject introspection?  We broke backwards compatibility in aptdaemon. I will try to restore it."
[17:19] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, yea I saw that
[17:20] <tgm4883> superm1, ^^
[17:20] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  To whom should I report that so that mythbuntu-control-centre can be appropriately upgraded?
[17:20] <superm1> yeah that's me probably
[17:20] <superm1> i haven't started to look at what it will take
[17:20] <tgm4883> port it to QT5!
[17:20] <superm1> hah
[17:20] <DarthFrog> superm1:  Oh good.  I like it when things are easy. :-)
[17:21] <DarthFrog> superm1: I'll only comment that the release of Raring is a few weeks away. :-)
[17:21] <superm1> well that depends on the results of UDS right now...
[17:21] <superm1> it might not release and just turn into a rolling release
[17:22] <DarthFrog> Really?  That soon?  I thought any rolling release would be for after 14.04.
[17:23] <superm1> yeah there's a lot involved with it, but basically it would mean skipping the next two traditional releases
[17:23] <superm1> in the end the tech board needs to approve it though still
[17:23] <DarthFrog> I await the wisdom of the elders. :-)
[17:24] <superm1> DarthFrog: how has raring been for you so far though?  In theory due to the daily QA efforts they've started it's supposed to have been quite stable
[17:26] <DarthFrog> I've only installed it yesterday so my experience is limited.  Today I encountered an update-initramfs bug that's stopping me from installing Nvidia drivers.
[17:26] <DarthFrog> But I've gotten Myth working.
[17:27] <DarthFrog> I run Kubuntu, BTW.
[17:28] <DarthFrog> Oh,, this could be interesting.  I've just done a dist-upgrade, which installed a new kernel.  The update-initramfs bug bit there, too.
[17:29] <superm1> ah.  what's the initramfs bug that's happening?
[17:30] <DarthFrog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmod/+bug/1073062
[17:31] <superm1> oh yuck, that's  been a round a while and a lot of duplicates too
[17:32] <DarthFrog> I would think that it's a show-stopper.
[21:49] <Steve-Goodey> Hi, back in the mists of time Mythbuntu 9.10 Mythtv 0.22 would only allow mytharchive to burn a dvd by renaming /home/steve/.ICEauthority to
[21:50] <Steve-Goodey> .ICEauthority.old. Fast forward to Mythbuntu 12.04 Mythtv 0.26, clean install combined front/backend it seems the problem is still with me.
[21:50] <Steve-Goodey> Seems this problem was seen back in 2011. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666521&page=3.
[21:50] <Steve-Goodey> Does this sound familiar?
[21:52] <superm1> doesn't ring a bell with me
[21:52] <superm1> it's possible there's certainly a bug there that hasn't been raised and fixed though
[21:56] <Steve-Goodey> OK :-) Hint taken. I'll get some info and get one raisd, thanks,
[21:56] <Steve-Goodey> raisd > raised
[22:03] <tgm4883> IIRC, that was an issue with running GUI apps as root improperly