[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: it seems it did not work because the bin and cue did not have the same name, but i have 2 bin and I can't have both be the same name, right?
[00:00] <Untitled1> I guess I'll come back when Ubuntu has actual UEFI support then.
[00:00] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: Certain filesystems do allow for full restore images.
[00:00] <Rokkross> I think ZFS does.
[00:00] <Untitled1> nilfs2 allows for arbitrary checkpoints.
[00:00] <Untitled1> I <3 nilfs2
[00:01] <iceroot> Untitled1: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Booting-Linux-using-UEFI-can-brick-Samsung-laptops-1793958.html
[00:01] <Rokkross> I honestly don't know that much about filesystems. I'll learn eventually.
[00:01] <iceroot> Untitled1: ubuntu jas uefi support
[00:01] <OerHeks> Ubuntu comes with a data backup solution, so you can backup your system too.
[00:01] <nikitis> Anyone?
[00:01] <Untitled1> iceroot: Great! Assuming I'm OK with the weird hardware bricking risk, how do I boot the Ubuntu installer on an UEFI-only box?
[00:02] <iceroot> Untitled1: ask your maufactor how to boot from usb
[00:02] <mJayk> Untitled1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[00:02] <nikitis> I suggest returning it to manufacturer
[00:02] <mJayk> Untitled1: everything you need should be there
[00:02] <Untitled1> mJayk: If you scroll back, you see that I read that link. That link requires you to create a MBR boot stick to install for UEFI.
[00:02] <Untitled1> That only works if your laptop can boot from MBR.
[00:02] <Untitled1> I need to be all-UEFI, all the time.
[00:03] <Untitled1> So, there exists no UEFI-only install media for Ubuntu?
[00:03] <nikitis> use windows then
[00:03] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross:  whats your suggestion to get this laptop up and running again?
[00:03] <mJayk> Untitled1: sadly I wont because I wasnt in the channel then :)
[00:03] <Untitled1> nikitis: All helpful today I see.
[00:03] <iceroot> Untitled1: sure, the normal ubuntu iso
[00:03] <Rokkross> PlastikSpork: Did you type in the command I told you to?
[00:03] <iceroot> Untitled1: its not ubuntu fault if your hardware can not boot from usb
[00:03] <nikitis> Manufacturers aren't going to get the hint unless people start returning their hardware
[00:03] <Untitled1> iceroot: Where are the UEFI boot files for that iso? Can I put those on my UEFI boot partition?
[00:04] <Untitled1> iceroot: My hardware can boot from USB just fine. If it has UEFI system partitions.
[00:04] <mJayk> Untitled1:  it doesnt work like that
[00:04] <iceroot> !uefi
[00:04] <PlastikSpork> I didn't see what you typed..
[00:04] <Rokkross> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
[00:04] <Untitled1> I understand.
[00:04] <Rokkross> That should show your most recently installed packages. Find one related to your video driver
[00:04] <Rokkross> it should say "ati" somewhere
[00:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: seems to be working
[00:05] <PlastikSpork> gotcha hold on
[00:05] <nikitis> So does anyone know if mounting usb hdd's can still be mounted anywhere besides /media?
[00:05] <Rokkross> If the output is too long and you don't see any package related to it, try typing the same thing but like this: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ " | less
[00:05] <maki_> hi, how can I pass options to the time command?
[00:05] <maki_> when i try time -v it tries to run "-v"
[00:05] <Untitled1> When I trick the bios into trying to boot from a regular syslinux (for example) prepared USB stick, it looks at the stick, then decides there's no UEFI firmware on that stick, and moves on to the firmware on the built-in disk.
[00:05] <celso> people, curently i am using vgaswitcheroo to shutdown my ati hd5470 card to use the intel hd3000 but for a unknown reason, when i setup the stuff in rc.local file, it disables my sound card. it simply doesn't detect it. I think its because of the "sleep 6" comand that i had there. i can remove it but i will make my system freeze on boot.  but if i remove it, it detects my sound card. What to do?
[00:06] <Untitled1> If I can put UEFI firmware for Ubuntu onto a UEFI partition on a USB stick, then I can boot Ubuntu from that USB stick. <-- this is my assertion
[00:06] <iceroot> Untitled1: the link says that only the amd64  version supports uefi
[00:06] <Untitled1> Yes, and that's the version I'm using.
[00:06] <Untitled1> I can read. I've followed the page.
[00:06] <Untitled1> The page requires using a MBR-capable BIOS to boot the installer.
[00:06] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross how do you display that page by page... a whole bunch just flew by the screen
[00:06] <Untitled1> After which you can install on UEFI media.
[00:06] <Rokkross> I just said
[00:07] <Rokkross> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ " | less
[00:07] <Rokkross> notice the change at the end
[00:07] <FuZi0N> Untitled1: i just re-logged in but it still says permission denied
[00:07] <maki_> hi, when i try "time -v program" it tries to run "-v", how can I pass an option to time?
[00:07] <Untitled1> Did you set the permissions of the file and directory to 664/775?
[00:07] <Untitled1> By default, group is not given write permission.
[00:07] <nikitis> So no one knows about USB HDD's?
[00:08] <FuZi0N> i cant even access the directory
[00:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: what are you trying to do
[00:08] <Untitled1> FuZi0N: Is the group able to read every directly from root to that location?
[00:08] <Untitled1> Once you're there, is the group set for the directory?
[00:08] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: i'm trying to have fstab mount a usb hdd on boot to /home/user/Backup dir.  But it's not happening.  If I manually mount it afterwards, it's fine.
[00:08] <Untitled1> And is the permission on the directory 775? (rwxrwxr-x)
[00:08] <anew> httpd command not found on ubuntu 10.0... what do i do ?
[00:09] <Untitled1> nikitis: You probably are suffering from a late-appearing mount.
[00:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: pastebin your fstab and lemme have a look at it
[00:09] <Untitled1> Use an udev rule to trigger the mount command. Or switch to systemd ;-)
[00:09] <iceroot> anew: sounds like you want to start apache2
[00:10] <anew> start apache2 ?
[00:10] <iceroot> anew: what is your real question?
[00:10] <FuZi0N> Untitled1 how do i set the group for a specific directory?
[00:10] <anew> that is my question... how do i use httpd if it says command not found
[00:10] <iceroot> anew: what you want to do with httpd (httpd is apache 2 the http webserver)
[00:11] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: http://pastebin.com/iLYBGYQk
[00:11] <anew> i need to use httpd -X
[00:11] <mJayk> Does anyone here run Gnome with ubuntu
[00:11] <mJayk> ive been force to fedora and started to fall in love iwht gnome
[00:11] <iceroot> anew: for what reason? again, what is the real question? what you want zo do?
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: I have gnome
[00:11] <anew> i have a 500 error and need to figure out why
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: I meant the whole thing
[00:11] <mJayk> ntzrmtthihu777: did you install the desktop or did you install the ubuntu gnome remix thing
[00:12] <iceroot> anew: you have a 500 error on your own webserver?
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: I am using pinguy os 12.04
[00:12] <anew> yes
[00:12] <anew> iceroot
[00:12] <iceroot> anew: less /var/log/apache2/error.log
[00:12] <anew> obviously already tried that...
[00:12] <iceroot> anew: could you please post usefull details?
[00:12] <mJayk> ntzrmtthihu777:  ah ok
[00:12] <iceroot> anew: so we dont have to guess everything
[00:12] <mJayk> ntzrmtthihu777: cheers :)
[00:13] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: http://pastebin.com/Nzr5pXBd
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: pinguy os is ubuntu, its just pre-customized (very nicely I might add)
[00:13] <anew> my details are : when i type in httpd i get command not found.  the binary was renamed so how do i figure out what it was renamed to
[00:13] <iceroot> anew: who renamed the binary?
[00:13] <iceroot> anew: and the binary is called "apache2"
[00:14] <anew> i have no idea !!
[00:14] <iceroot> anew: that is the default webserver on ubuntu
[00:14] <MoPac> So I'm having trouble getting gDevilspie scripts to automatically move a window to a certain viewport/workspace. Has anyone here succeeded with that?  It's annoying to have a jumble of Devilspie and Compiz settins
[00:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: you should use default options and pass 0
[00:14] <PlastikSpork> Rokkross how do you search that. dpkg.log
[00:15] <nikitis> shoudn't it be 0 2?  cause it should mount after /dev/sda1?
[00:15] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: so just defaults 0 0
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> that only matters if its the same physical device, if its a separate device you can do it at the same time
[00:16] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: ah didn't know that
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: man fstab will tell you more, if you wanna learn
[00:19] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: Back, that didn't work  Same result
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> man is, imho, one of the most useful commands you can learn.
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: are you sure you got the right uuid?
[00:19] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: possitive, checked twice, but I will check a 3rd
[00:20] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="The Bible" UUID="c8280782-d76f-4f3b-bcdf-6dd7cdef3882" TYPE="ext4"
[00:20] <nikitis> that's the one
[00:21] <nikitis> from blkid
[00:21] <SiegeLord> My X11 crashed... where should I report the bug?
[00:22] <dr_willis> !bug
[00:22] <dr_willis> of course you need to determine if it was X11 bug.. or a video driver bug..
[00:22] <SiegeLord> I have a backtrace... the actual crash is inside libpixman
[00:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> nikitis: well it that does not do it there is a gui tool for doing it, storage device manager
[00:23] <dr_willis> id search the bug reports for allready reported similer bugs first
[00:23] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: when mounting after the fact using sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1/ /home/nikitis/Backup
[00:24] <nikitis> ntzrmtthihu777: it works fine. but just can't get it to automount.  I was reading somewhere that possibly udisk2 prevents mounting in /home dir's anymore and it has to be in /media/username.  that had better not be true.
[00:24] <dr_willis> nikitis:  not using an encrypted home are you?
[00:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: well he did have crypt swap, so maybe
[00:25] <nikitis> dr_willis: don't think so, but i'm not entirely sure
[00:25] <dr_willis> nikitis:  you could mount it  to /media/whatever and have a link in your users home to it..
[00:25] <nikitis> dr_willis: how can i check
[00:25] <dr_willis> no idea. I dont use encrypted stuff. ;)
[00:25] <nikitis> dr_willis: i don't usually either, but it's possible i forgot to uncheck during install
[00:26] <SiegeLord> Hmm... now I'm using Mint KDE... should I send it along to Mint or Ubuntu?
[00:26] <dr_willis> if you login to rescue/recovery mode and look in your home and see no real files/ :) is how people normally discover it
[00:26] <memand> Could someone help me determine which of the cips specified on page 4 of this doc http://www.lenovo.com/shop/emea/content/pdf/notebooks/thinkpad/x-series/X121e_AMD/en/X121e_DS_AMD_EN.pdf is the GPU?
[00:26] <SiegeLord> It's probably the same underlying package
[00:26] <memand> s/cips/chips/
[00:26] <dr_willis> SiegeLord: if you are using mint.. send it to the mint guys
[00:26] <SiegeLord> Ok
[00:27] <dr_willis> if you can repeate the same bug on ubuntu.. then send it to the ubuntu guys
[00:27] <fluvvell> Anybody here know much about GPT and grub setup?
[00:28] <fluvvell> I've setup a new drive with GPT and copied my system to it. It doesnt really boot without some assistance from a boot disk.
[00:28] <memand> ntzrmtthihu777: I was a bit away (helping my friend transition from wondoze to ubuntu) but did you get the guy with the screen of death sorted?
[00:28] <memand> s/wondoze/windoze/
[00:31] <nikitis> dr_willis: i don't think it is encrypted, cause wouldn't I have had to set a passphrase?  I never did such a thing.
[00:31] <spason> Thanks all for your help today- I'm all systems go, and couldn't have done it without you!
[00:31] <spason> spason out
[00:34] <servvs> is there a way to have a default where all traffic goes through a VPN and then specify some traffic to not go through the vpn?
[00:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all, gotta reboot
[00:35] <joe_onereb> Recently I put together a new pc and loaded Ubuntu 12.10 for the most part everything went great but now I can't see other computers on my home network. Normally it's a piece of cake, also I have set up my Canon Pixma MX882 several different times on other computers but now it just won't set up. Is there anyone that can help me out? Thanks for any help.
[00:37] <selena2013> i love ubuntu
[00:37] <rockking> i
[00:37] <memand> selena2013: And ubuntu loves you!
[00:37] <selena2013> awww lol
[00:38] <Hateyoface> sup guys
[00:38] <Nach0z> hey guys, I'm trying to get my ubuntu to recognize my screen size (1366x768
[00:38] <Nach0z> but having no luck with it at all
[00:39] <Nach0z> and I think the problem is that it's using the vesa drivers, but I can't get it to use anything else. even uninstalled vesa, and that just made it not able to start X at all
[00:39] <drleviathan> joe_onereb, when you say you can't see other computers on your "home network" you're talking about a samba ("windows workgroup" or "NetBios") network?
[00:42] <Boohbah> hey guys, did you hear about the new display server?
[00:42] <nikitis> Is there some kind of delay you can set on mounting from fstab to automount a usbhdd?
[00:42] <Boohbah> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzY
[00:42] <nikitis> I think my drive may not be mounting properly due to it not being ready
[00:43] <kostkon> Boohbah, the usual red hat bashing against canonical. ignore it
[00:45] <Taev> Im setting up a RAID partition in Ubuntu, under manual, I've got RAID0 Device #127 28.6gb Linux Software RAID Array, #1 F ext4 mount as /
[00:45] <Taev> and SCSI3 SDA5 logical 14.3gb f ext4  , and SCSI5 SDB2 14.3gb f ext4
[00:45] <Boohbah> kostkon: Kristian Høgsberg works at Intel and Daniel Stone works at Collabora Ltd.
[00:45] <drleviathan> nikitis, one idea would be to add the mount of that drive to the init scripts, probably to /etc/rc.local whose purpose is for custom config stuff that happens at the end if the init process
[00:46] <Taev> when i go to finish partitioning it says i didnt select a mount point for /sda5
[00:46] <Taev> even though i selected them combined into the root partition as /
[00:46] <Boohbah> kostkon: it sounds to me like canonical is having another case of NIH-syndrome
[00:46] <kostkon> Boohbah, eh whatever :P that belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:47] <kostkon> Boohbah, yeah, possibly. but we can't discuss it here :(
[00:47] <Taev> No mount point is assigned for the ext4 file system in partition #4 of SCSI3, If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a mount point from there, this partition will not be used at all
[00:47] <Boohbah> kostkon: isn't this the ubuntu channel?
[00:47] <mJayk> Boohbah: NIH ?
[00:47] <Taev> but the "RAID" partition those 2 created is mounted as /
[00:47] <Taev> should I go forward?
[00:47] <kostkon> Boohbah, this channel is only for support.
[00:48] <mJayk> kostkon: friendly banter isnt bad :)
[00:48] <kostkon> Boohbah, for general discussion, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <Taev> should i leave the mount points blank for /dev/sda5 and /dev/sdb2 since they are being combined into "RAID0 Device that is mounted as /
[00:50] <Taev> please anyone? im stuck until i get an answer
[00:52] <n-iCe> hello, how do I control all the desktop effects?
[00:52] <MoPac> So I'm having trouble getting gDevilspie scripts to automatically move a window to a certain viewport/workspace. Has anyone here succeeded with that?  It's annoying to have a jumble of Devilspie and Compiz settins
[00:53] <mJayk> n-iCe:  what desktop effects / what desktop are you running
[00:54] <n-iCe> I'm installing Ubuntu 12.10 right now, I see a sidebar with kind of effects
[00:54] <n-iCe> How can I disable them?
[00:54] <n-iCe> mJayk: thanks for the answer.
[00:54] <Taev> i wish ubuntu still covered RAID installation in its standard install discs
[00:55] <Taev> and i didnt have to use this alternative disc
[00:55] <mJayk> n-iCe: haven't given an answer yet - cant decide if sarcasm :). anyway sounds liek you are using unity
[00:55] <Degru> hello
[00:55] <mJayk> if you go and click the launcher button (top right) and type system
[00:56] <escott> Taev, the alternate cd does raid installation
[00:56] <Taev> im saying that i wish the regular one did
[00:56] <Taev> like i did in the older distros
[00:56] <mJayk> n-iCe:  if you go and click the launcher button (top right) and type system youll get your system settings - through there you have desktop settings
[00:57] <Degru> anybody know why I can't send anything on #linux?
[00:57] <mJayk> n-iCe: sorry top left I dont know my right from left :P
[00:57] <anew> when you ftp you can see when the files were edited correct? is this reliable ?
[00:57] <mJayk> Degru: u reged?
[00:57] <Degru> Degru: Oh, no. How do I register?
[00:58] <Degru> mJayk: ^^
[00:58] <mJayk> Degru: type /msg nickserver PASSWORD EMAIL
[00:58] <mJayk> go to ur email and verify
[00:58] <Degru> mJayk: OK, thanks
[00:58] <n-iCe> mJayk: let's see
[00:58] <Boohbah> mJayk: Not Invented Here
[00:58] <escott> Taev, the raw disks should not be given mountpoints
[00:59] <n-iCe> mJayk: I'm on settings
[00:59] <n-iCe> system settings
[00:59] <Taev> i know but now its giving me errors creating a ext4 file system on the RAID partition
[01:00] <Boohbah> mJayk: rather than contributing to wayland, canonical starts their own competing project implementing the same functionality which nobody else will use and thus history repeats itself
[01:00] <Taev> do i have to use another kind of file system on RAID 0?
[01:00] <escott> Taev, no
[01:00] <Taev> then why does it keep failing
[01:00] <mJayk> Boohbah: That a reply to my forum post ?
[01:00] <n-iCe> mJayk: can't see any thing about effects on there
[01:00] <n-iCe> !gnome2
[01:00] <Taev> i have a RAID0 set up, my previous install died
[01:00] <n-iCe> !notunity
[01:00] <mJayk> n-iCe: 2 seconds
[01:00] <Boohbah> mJayk: what forum post?
[01:00] <escott> Taev, how did the previous install die?
[01:01] <mJayk> Boohbah: I dont see what that reply to me was about :P
[01:01] <Boohbah> mJayk: oh, you asked about NIH
[01:01] <mJayk> aHHHH
[01:01] <mJayk> thankyou ;)
[01:01] <n-iCe> not sure why people hate unity, I'm reading about Ubuntu, but people really say a lot of shit about unity I find it quite friendly
[01:02] <mJayk> n-iCe: it was new people hate new, i hated GNOME-3 now I bloody love it
[01:02] <Nach0z> lxde > * :P
[01:02] <n-iCe> GNOME-3 is the one I'm using? which quantal uses by default?
[01:03] <n-iCe> yeah, GNOME 3.6.0
[01:03] <mJayk> n-iCe:  default quantal is unity ?
[01:03] <mJayk> n-iCe: Quantal Quetzal - 12.10 - unity
[01:03] <n-iCe> I'm moving from Debian to Ubuntu, mJayk yeah but GNOME3 as desktop environment, I think unity es just the sidebar
[01:04] <mJayk> n-iCe: I thought Unity was the actuall desktop enviroment ? or is it just like a gnome skin ?
[01:04] <n-iCe> mJayk: gnome skin, since system monitor says GNOME 3+
[01:04] <n-iCe> Can't find that effect thing
[01:05] <mJayk> n-iCe: Mby u need CCSM ?  to configure unity
[01:06] <n-iCe> ccsm?
[01:06] <mJayk> n-iCe compizConfig Settings Manager
[01:06] <selena2013> unity is the in-house GUI
[01:07] <mJayk> n-iCe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/224775#224775
[01:07] <n-iCe> oh so unity is using compiz?!
[01:07] <azizLIGHTS> im on ubuntu livecd 12.04, im trying to change my windows 7 password, but i cant find chntpw in software center. please help
[01:07] <selena2013> iam not sure
[01:07] <mJayk> n-iCe:  looks that way from what I can see on askubuntu
[01:07] <n-iCe> Ubuntu installation finished, I need to reboot.
[01:07] <n-iCe> Please save me that link mJayk brb
[01:07] <selena2013> reboot
[01:07] <mJayk> n-1 will do
[01:07] <n-iCe> thanks! brb
[01:07] <mJayk> n-iCe: will di *
[01:07] <mJayk> fml
[01:08] <selena2013> ok
[01:10] <lauratika> how do i change the icon of home folder in unity bar, now is a cabinet i want the old home folder icon.
[01:11] <selena2013> change the thems i believe
[01:11] <mJayk> lauratika: gedit nautilus-home.desktop
[01:11] <azizLIGHTS> im on ubuntu livecd 12.04, i cant find the chntpw program in software center. can somebody advise
[01:11] <lauratika> no my theme is the same old i like and want, but the icon change suddenly to cabinet type of, want the home folder icon.
[01:12] <mJayk> lauratika: change the icon by editing nautilus-home.desktop you can change the folder icon no ~?
[01:13] <lauratika> mJayk it shows an empty doc
[01:13] <lauratika> when i go to gedit nautilus-home.desktop
[01:14] <mJayk> lauratika: ok first cd /usr/share/applications
[01:14] <mJayk> lauratika: then sudo gedit nautilus-home.desktop
[01:14] <mJayk> lauratika: then edit the line icon=<pathtoicon.png>
[01:14] <mJayk> lauratika: and save
[01:14] <lauratika> to what path now?
[01:15] <mJayk> to the path of the image of the icon
[01:15] <n-iCe> mJayk: I'm back
[01:15] <mJayk> n-iCe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/224775#224775
[01:15] <n-iCe> Feel really smooth, I have the thought will work even faster if I disable all those effects
[01:16] <mJayk> lauratika: i THINK the default icons are in /usr/share/icons
[01:16] <n-iCe> mJayk: what do you use as desktop?
[01:16] <lauratika> mJayk maybe i didnt explain myself well, my blame. the icon in unity of home folder suddenly change to one showing a cabinet i dont like it at all, i want the old icon of home folder where it shows the folder with a home icon inside.
[01:17] <mJayk> lauratika: yes to change it back find the icon you want in /usr/share/icons/ then edit the file above? I dont know how to "revert to old settings" just how to replace it
[01:18] <mJayk> n-iCe: im running fedora 17 atm with the default gnome - on my "main" pc I use ubuntu 12.10 with kde - thinking of switching to default gnome as I like this so much
[01:18] <mJayk> lauratika: if you look arund in /usr/share/icons u shud find the original home folder icon in there do you get what I mean ? I'm not very good at explantions
[01:19] <lauratika> yes thanx, now i know what happens, radiance is missing from the list of icons from the appereance menu, any ideas how to fix this?
[01:20] <uictamale> Hello, all - I've recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on an nforce 630a motherboard (geforce 7025), and while my graphics work fine from my live USB stick, I keep getting a black screen (Mode not supported message from my monitor) after rebooting.   I've tried several things, including adding "GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480" to my grub config, but then I simply boot up into low graphics mode every time, with no option to save any settings.  Please h
[01:21] <[Saint]> Can anyone assist me in restoring the default list of internet radio stations for rhytmbox, please?
[01:21] <mJayk> lauratika: Ah yea if you icons are no longer there that wont work :D, im not sure how to get them back tbh apart from redownloading / installing the theme
[01:22] <lauratika> how can i install a theme in ubuntu 12.04?
[01:23] <mJayk> [Saint]: Seen that problem before on the forums exit rythbox
[01:23] <mJayk> [Saint]: navigate as sudo to .local/share/rhythembox/hythemdb.xml
[01:23] <mJayk> [Saint]: navigate as sudo to .local/share/rhythembox/rhythmdb.xml
[01:24] <mJayk> and delete the file
[01:24] <[Saint]> I have tried to remove ~/.local/share/rhythmbox, and ~/.cache/rhythmbox, follwed by apt-get autoremove -- purge rhythmbox - and re-installation, but to no avail.
[01:24] <mJayk> have you tried sudo touch ~./local/share/rhythembox/rhythmdb.xml i assume u have
[01:24]  * [Saint] nods
[01:24] <mJayk> boos
[01:25] <n-iCe> mJayk: ccsm right?
[01:25] <[Saint]> I don't even use any of them - it just bugs me that they suddenly disappeared.
[01:25] <n-iCe> is the most common tool to configurate compiz/unity
[01:25] <mJayk> n-iCe:  yea thas right that site gives u a nice walkthrough actually
[01:25] <[Saint]> n-iCe: Yeppers. I can't give ccsm enough praise.
[01:25] <n-iCe> great
[01:26] <n-iCe> Can gnome 2 be installed, instead of unity/gnome3?
[01:26]  * [Saint] likes the 'magic lamp" animation - and applied it to just about everything
[01:26] <mJayk> n-ice: shud be allready installed
[01:26] <n-iCe> gnome2?
[01:26] <mJayk> n-iCe: logout - look at the white ubuntu logo thing by ur username thing - click it and you can choose from a few different types of desktop enviro's
[01:27] <n-iCe> o.O
[01:27] <uictamale> Maybe this would help ?   udev-fallback-graphics main process (1748) terminated with status 1
[01:27] <mJayk> n-iCe:  should have a lightweight version of unity there unity 2-d or something
[01:27] <uictamale> From dmesg
[01:27] <n-iCe> And if I choose gnome2 will that stop launching all the effects and big sizes stuff loading at boot?
[01:27] <mJayk> n-iCe: if you chooes gnome2  (if its there) then yes itll just launch g2
[01:27] <[Saint]> n-iCe: for that boot only, yes.
[01:27] <mJayk> n-iCe: I think it should be there if its not its simple to install
[01:28] <[Saint]> Sounds like unity-2d is pretty much what you want.
[01:28] <mJayk> [Saint]: out of interest u 64 bit?
[01:28] <n-iCe> mkander: I did a apt-get upgrade one minute and will be finished, so I will wait and try that.
[01:28] <[Saint]> mJayk: Yes, I am.
[01:28] <n-iCe> thanks so much, mJayk *
[01:28] <mJayk> n-iCe: anytime
[01:29] <mJayk> [Saint]: seams a few ppl have that problem on 8.10
[01:29] <[Saint]> I didn't think 32 vs. 64 bit would make a lick of difference for internet radio station defaults - but, I'm willing to be surprised.
[01:29] <[Saint]> s/8.10/12.10/ btw
[01:30] <mJayk> [Saint]: me too :D always surprised
[01:30] <mJayk> n-iCe: lemme know what desktop you go for
[01:31] <n-iCe> If I like gnome2 better, is there a way to keep it as default? maybe even remove the others environments?
[01:31] <n-iCe> I'm going to reboot on that gnome2 too see if is the one I used.
[01:31] <hero100> I installed vmware. Now my disc is nearly full. How can I do?
[01:31] <n-iCe> I'm sure I can get used to this one anyway.
[01:31] <mJayk> [Saint]: got 1 idea that might work VERY long winded and could be VERY pointless
[01:32] <[Saint]> mJayk: I have considered adding them by hand, if that's what you're thinking.
[01:32] <anew> how can i run strace ?
[01:32] <[Saint]> I'm /hoping/ to avoid that, though ;)
[01:32] <n-iCe> I'm a chrome browser user, but this firefox seems ok, what do you guys use for surfing the web?
[01:32] <mJayk> [Saint]: I was thinkinking booting live usb persistant mode and merging the databases :P
[01:32] <sheaze> Hi guys, I'm running CHroot ubuntu 12.04 and have been trying to fix my locale settings (cannot set LC_ALL to default locale) but no avail with all the fixes online.
[01:32] <mJayk> n-iCe: sudo apt-get chromium-browser :D
[01:33] <n-iCe> ja! I found a missing thing on this Ubuntu, where is the SHOW DESKTOP icon?!
[01:33] <mJayk> [Saint]: or copying ur mates database
[01:33] <n-iCe> mJayk: yeah :p
[01:33] <[Saint]> mJayk: Hmmmmmm.....that's actually a pretty decent idea, thanks.
[01:33] <mJayk> n-iCe: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser :D**
[01:33] <mJayk> [Saint]: Glad u thought so, I pulled a face when I thought of it oO -- lemme know if u try it
[01:34] <[Saint]> Ewwwwww...Chromium? <insert_sad_face_here>
[01:34]  * [Saint] much prefers Chrome over Chromium
[01:34] <n-iCe> need to restart browser
[01:35] <mJayk> [Saint]: can you get Chrome in ubuntu / linux ? -- always ran Chromium because I didn't think you could get chrome
[01:35] <MeiMei> good morning
[01:35] <n-iCe> mJayk: you can, go to google.com/chrome
[01:35] <[Saint]> Sure you can.
[01:35] <n-iCe> is the one I use
[01:35] <joe_onereb> sorry I stepped away for a min.
[01:35]  * [Saint] has used chrome-dev on debian/Ubuntu for years
[01:36] <mJayk> [Saint]: n-iCe: thanks ill try it when I get home
[01:36]  * Degru likes chrome-stable because it's more stable
[01:36] <[Saint]> chrome-dev is fine here.
[01:36] <joe_onereb> I have windoz and other linux computers that are on my home network that I can't currently find on the new pc
[01:36] <anew> bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[01:37] <anew> how to fix this error ?
[01:37] <[Saint]> Plus, you get all the new tasty bits like a month prior to it hitting stable
[01:37] <mJayk> I would have sworn blind you couldn't get chrome for fedora - and there it is .rpm
[01:37] <lauratika> is it ok to clean the old kernel shown on ubuntu tewak application?
[01:37] <mJayk> ...
[01:37] <[Saint]> I _think_ stable is still on 25.*, is it not?
[01:38] <[Saint]> dev is at 27.0.1425.0 dev
[01:38] <escott> lauratika, if the newer kernel works for you sure
[01:38] <sheaze> anyone know how to fix locale settings?
[01:38] <anew> bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[01:38] <anew> can anyone help me with this error ?
[01:38] <mJayk> joe_onereb: what os you running
[01:38] <escott> !locale | sheaze
[01:38] <joe_onereb> Ubuntu 12.10
[01:38] <[Saint]> Ubuntu - one hopes
[01:39] <mJayk> joe_onereb: can you see your new computer from the old ones?
[01:39] <joe_onereb> I haven't looked that direction yet let me go see?
[01:40] <maxibyte> hey guys, im trying to burn a bootable usb for windows via startup disk creator, and when i select my disk image it just doesnt add it to the list thing, and wont let me burn the disk
[01:40] <[Saint]> joe_onereb: If you want to clean all unused kernel images and headers, you can just do "dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[01:40] <maxibyte> sweet mother of regex
[01:40] <[Saint]> it looks intimidating, I know, but I've had that as an alias for years now.
[01:40] <[Saint]> :)
[01:41] <[Saint]> maxibyte: it is a little intimidating, yes. :)
[01:41] <maxibyte> what kind of package names does that regex recognize?
[01:41] <mJayk> [Saint]: just responded and scared off the wrong person :D
[01:41] <joe_onereb> I checked from the laptop and no luck
[01:41] <[Saint]> maxibyte: unused kernel images and headers
[01:41] <maxibyte> ah
[01:42] <maxibyte> cant you just call apt-get autoremove
[01:42] <maxibyte> ?
[01:42] <joe_onereb> it's NEVER been a problem to do any networking with my linux pc's
[01:42] <mJayk> joe_onereb: have you installed samba, imo I would try to get samba to setup a share file on you "NEW" pc and the view that folder from your "OLD" pc's
[01:42] <mJayk> joe_onereb: I wont be much help on this though :D
[01:42] <[Saint]> maxibyte: sure, but that's no fun :)
[01:42] <joe_onereb> yes
[01:42] <maxibyte> heh
[01:42] <lauratika> thanx escott is over 1.5 gb!
[01:42] <maxibyte> any ideas as to what my issue is? :I
[01:47] <n-iCe> mJayk: OK, I'm installing all my stuff
[01:47] <mJayk> n-iCe: cool what desktop you go for was g2 or ubuntu - 2d there?
[01:48] <n-iCe> I have not rebooted yet, give me 5 minutes and I will, and tell you what it is
[01:48] <dumont> how does software ubuntu FDE affect other partitions on the disk? is it per partition or per disk? what if I want to dual boot to windows on another partition of the disk that has software FDE via ubuntu
[01:48] <mJayk> n-iCe: ah still doing your updates :) kk im of for a coffee :)
[01:50] <ero-jiji> evening all
[01:51] <[Saint]> Hahahaha...turns out I hadn't run said frightening regex arg in a while
[01:51] <mJayk> ero-jiji: hi ho
[01:51] <[Saint]> "8243MB will be freed" ...lol
[01:51] <ero-jiji> ouch....
[01:51] <mJayk> fair bit there
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone with experience using ginn with the dell inspiron one?
[01:52]  * [Saint] nods
[01:52]  * mJayk has Gin experience
[01:52] <persona24> Is the copy directory command cpdir?
[01:52] <ero-jiji> thats as bad as me not emptying trash for a year, 30 some gb lol
[01:52] <somsip> persona24: cp -R
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> persona24: like somsip
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> persona24: like somsip said
[01:52] <n-iCe> time to reboot mJayk then I select where it ask me the login password, right?
[01:53] <mJayk> n-iCe: yea
[01:53] <n-iCe> ok brb
[01:53] <mJayk> n-iCe: the white ubuntu logo is a button
[01:53] <mJayk> he didnt see that @ all
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> is he using lightdm or gdm?
[01:54] <Degru> persona24: To copy a directory, type "cp -R /path/to/directoryname /path/to/destination/directoryname"
[01:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> if its gdm it will be a drop-down menu
[01:54] <persona24> cp -R did nothing
[01:55] <mJayk> persona24: cp -r /from/here /to/here ?
[01:55] <somsip> persona24: copy the full ocmmand you used
[01:55] <Degru> persona24: You have to put the directory name on the end, or it will only copy the contents to the destination without the directory.
[01:55] <persona24> nevermind
[01:55] <Degru> persona24: these questions would be better asked in #bash
[01:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, these are not ubuntu-specific
[01:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> on that note, does the ginn multitouch program have its own channel?
[01:56] <n-iCe> mJayk: nothing, I cannot select a thing, just guest login, remote login, etc
[01:57] <mJayk> n-iCe: ubuntu 12.109 ?
[01:57] <mJayk> 12.10 *
[01:57] <n-iCe> yes
[01:57] <n-iCe> quantal
[01:57] <Degru> ntzrmtthihu777: there's a #ginn channel but it's empty.
[01:57] <selena2013> hi
[01:57] <mJayk> hay
[01:58] <ero-jiji> man, im kicking myself for letting the backup server get so full >< now that we are finally moving everything to a larger server, its taking forever
[01:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Degru: if you try to join a non-existant channel you create one. I bet you or another accidentally made it
[01:58] <mJayk> n-iCe:
[01:58] <mJayk> https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfiMJ-Gj2IRrtIJwzQgmFPp-q9KCaMS7bdeqwWc2DMcfyjWeUCZQ
[01:58] <n-iCe> yes
[01:58] <n-iCe> is that for me?
[01:58] <Degru> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah, probably.
[01:58] <mJayk> that is what i ment
[01:58] <mJayk> yes tis
[01:58] <mJayk> screen shot
[01:58] <n-iCe> let me try again
[01:59] <n-iCe> brb
[01:59] <ero-jiji> 3.8TB at 100mbit = ouch
[01:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> dangit, lol. I wanna get multitouch working on this machine
[01:59] <mJayk> ntzrmtthihu777: what machine :D
[01:59] <mJayk> win 9
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: dear god no.
[02:00] <mJayk> i missed the /
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: dell inspirone one2205 all-in-one
[02:00] <Capprentice> Hi there, Somehow Partition table is  messed up. Cant see any partition using Gparted, though everything works? What should I do ? Any help please.
[02:00] <mJayk> ./win 9
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mJayk: what are you trying to do?
[02:01] <mJayk> i was changing channels in irc
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: refresh device list?
[02:01] <mJayk> and i missed the / off the /win 9 command
[02:01] <Capprentice> Not working. It shows nothing is partitioned
[02:02] <Capprentice> here's a screenshot of what gparted is showing -http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s471/curious_apprentice/Ubuntu/AppShots/Partition20table20messed20up.png
[02:03] <Taev> great my aborted attempted to install ubuntu has damaged my grub
[02:03] <Taev> i get "grub rescue"
[02:04] <Capprentice> nthrmtthihu77: can you help me ?
[02:06] <dcenter> hello.  is anyone familiar with hdmi output for dell studio 1535 running ubuntu 12.10?
[02:06] <kepipo> Hi all. I am using remastersys to make custom iso and it worked, but the iso have no Install Option. I am using ubuntu 12.04. There is no error during making the iso. Can someone help me?
[02:06]  * Samoorai rebooting entire virtual network aka host reboot.. bbiab (3 vms, 1 host all GRRRR!)
[02:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: maybe, maybe not.
[02:07] <mJayk> t
[02:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> kepipo: you need ubiquity
[02:08] <kepipo> ntzrmtthihu777, should I install it before making the iso?
[02:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubiquity is the gui installer ubuntu uses, it is uninstalled after installation. if you run apt-get ubiquity and then remastersys your system you should be able to do it
[02:08] <invitingfaithman> im haveing trouble can anyone help please and thank you
[02:08] <kepipo> oh, I see.
[02:08] <kepipo> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[02:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> !anyone | invitingfaithman
[02:08] <alex____> Hi everyone!
[02:09] <thierry> HELLO GUYS
[02:09] <alex____> How are you, Thierry?
[02:09] <invitingfaithman> how to i download the new ubuntu to a usb disk
[02:09] <invitingfaithman> ???
[02:09] <thierry> I'M FINE
[02:10] <michael_p> hi all just installed lubuntu
[02:10] <alex____> What do you mean invitingfaithman?
[02:10] <Taev> is there a way to restore the MBR from a Live CD
[02:10] <kepipo> errr, ntzrmtthihu777 ? I just run sudo apt-get install ubiquity but it is said it is already the newest version.
[02:10] <thierry> TRY THE CD MAN
[02:10] <alex____> I use unetbootin to install to a usb
[02:10] <xangua> !caps | thierry
[02:10] <invitingfaithman> i mean how do i download ubuntu onto a usb drive
[02:10] <thierry> IT'S EASIER THAN THE USB
[02:10] <roasted> Question - If one would install Gnome Shell on 12.04, would that be some sort of crazy dependency headache? I was quite disappointed with installing Kubuntu-Desktop on Ubuntu, but I wonder if Gnome Shell would be smoother... Thoughts?
[02:11] <xangua> invitingfaithman: you can use unetbootin as you were told or follow the instructions you are given at ubuntu.com
[02:11] <Capprentice> Using "remastersys" how much data can be backed up ? I read somewhere there is a 4gb limit, is it true ?
[02:11] <alex____> Shouldn't be, I got gnome shell running once
[02:11] <Degru> invitingfaithman: you can use unetbootin, or YUMI to install it to a usbdrive. Both can be looked up on Google and are really easy to use.
[02:11] <alex____> I hate gnome shell though
[02:11] <xangua> roasted: gnome-shell is just a shell for gnome....you are already using gnome
[02:11] <roasted> Capprentice: is it possible that the 4GB limitation was referring to some sort of DVD usage?
[02:11] <kepipo> Capprentice, it is not the remastrsys limit I believe. It is because fat filesystem can't handle file larger than that
[02:12] <roasted> xangua: that was my thought process too. Figured I'd ask in case anybody had a "Whoa don't do that!" story.
[02:12] <Degru> invitingfaithman: they basically have an installer where you select your downloaded ISO file, the drive you want to put it on, and it does the rest.
[02:12] <thierry> 16BG IS BETTER
[02:12] <thierry> OPS
[02:12] <invitingfaithman> getting it now thanks so much
[02:12] <Capprentice> Ok so If I use multiple DVDs, can I backup a 50 GB hdd ?
[02:12] <thierry> 16GBs**
[02:12] <alex____> thierry is your caps lock key broken? And np invitingfaith! Glad to help the community :-)
[02:12] <thierry> I DON'T THINK SO
[02:12] <xangua> roasted: well you downloaded the full kde dektop....a desktop is not just a panel and window borders
[02:12] <thierry> NO
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> !caps | thierry
[02:13] <thierry> SORRY GUYS
[02:13] <thierry> I CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ALL WRITING
[02:13] <thierry> I'M NOT SHOUTING
[02:14] <selena2013> lol
[02:14] <thierry> IT'S MY WAY TO WRITE
[02:14] <alex____> How would one install the awesome WM? The guide I found gave me a 404 error when I tried to wget the .deb installer
[02:14] <xangua> !ops | thierry
[02:14] <selena2013> lol
[02:14] <mJayk> thierry: change it
[02:14] <kepipo> I've just check the live iso and type ubiquity in terminal. It is exist, but it cannot load.
[02:14] <kepipo> what happen with ubuntu nowadays uhh...
[02:14] <thierry> SO SORRY AGAIN AND I'M LEAVING THIS ROOM. GOD BLESS YOU ALL
[02:15] <patrickkay> does God use all caps? Hmmmmm...
[02:15] <Capprentice> kepipo: Does that implies there is no way we can creare multiple dvds containing the whole OS with all user settings and allthat ? Acronis Home is able to backup the whole windows Partition. Can remastersys be used to do so ?"
[02:15] <alex____> How would one install the awesome WM? The guide I found gave me a 404 error when I tried to wget the .deb installer
[02:16] <thierry> DON'T PLAY WITH THE NAME OF GOD
[02:16] <mJayk> Capprentice: Cant you just make an image of the hdd ?
[02:17] <Capprentice> mJayk: how can I do that ?
[02:17] <HaikuUser> ?
[02:17] <invitingfaithman> do i have to download ubuntu first?
[02:17] <xangua> !info awesome | alex____
[02:17] <kepipo> Capprentice you can use dd. :D
[02:17] <Capprentice> ??
[02:18] <mJayk> Capprentice: there are lots of programs that allow you to create bootable images (.iso's) of ur hdd
[02:18] <mJayk> Capprentice: http://disk-imaging-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
[02:18] <alex____> ubottu: I read somewhere that using the verison in the repositories is out-dated
[02:19] <alex____> Will it still work without major dependency hell?
[02:19] <Capprentice> kepipo: I need serious help.  Google god did not gave a suitable answer how can I fix the partition table. The other way to is backiing up whole hdd and then resinstall.
[02:19] <dumont> anyone use FDE?
[02:19] <dumont> anyone use FDE and dualboot to windows on the same disk?
[02:19] <dumont> is it possible? wouldn't FDE not work for windows partition
[02:20] <alex____> dumont: Not sure what FDE is but I'm currently running Ubuntu with W7 as a second partition
[02:20] <kepipo> Capprentice, you can make image of your hdd using dd commands.
[02:21] <kepipo> you can dd your_harddisk to another_harddisk with the same size or perhaps bigger.
[02:21] <Capprentice> Oh ! sorry. I did not knew there were dd commands. Can Acronis True image be used to backup the Ubuntu partition too ? I have windows in other partition. I can use that.
[02:22] <kepipo> I never tried that Capprentice, but if acronis can backup your entire hdd then of course it can. :D
[02:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a terminal command I can run to get the current strength of the network I am connected to?
[02:23] <Capprentice> mJayk: none of the product shows support for ext4 file system . Only Ext 2/3 FS is supported.
[02:24] <selena2013> advice on ubuntu 12.10 hp 2000 64 bits amd ... freezing
[02:24] <[Saint]> EEXPLANATION_TOO_VAGUE
[02:24] <alex____> selena2013: Check your additional drivers dialog and make sure you have everything installed there
[02:25] <bluedog> ntzrmtthihu777: for wireless you can look into the iwconfig command
[02:25] <selena2013> where is drivers dialog
[02:25] <Capprentice> mjayK: If i backup the whole HDD using acronis, can I recreate partitions and install the backedup data in any parition I choose ?
[02:25] <selena2013> currently using xorg. am/ati
[02:25] <mJayk> ntzrmtthihu777:  use watch -n1 iwconfig
[02:25] <alex____> Dash home --> search additional drivers
[02:25] <selena2013> no such thing in dash
[02:26] <selena2013> i have that in Software Sources
[02:26] <[Saint]> selena2013: Software Sources
[02:26] <mJayk> Capprentice: I honestly don't know, I believe you can but I wouldn't feel confident doing it myself if I had important data
[02:26] <selena2013> I there it says ...
[02:26] <selena2013> under Additional Drivers TAb ...
[02:26] <selena2013> using X.org X server
[02:27] <selena2013> AMD/ Ati display wrapper from xserver-xorg
[02:27] <Degru> ntzrmtthihu777: ntzrmtthihu777 for signal strength, "cat /proc/net/wireless" and look at "link" under "quality"
[02:27] <Capprentice> mJayk: Okay.
[02:27] <alex____> selena2013: You're going to want to enable your ati driver
[02:27] <bluedog> ntzrmtthihu777: or if you want to combine the answers "watch -n1 cat /proc/net/wireless"
[02:27] <selena2013> should i switch to AMD graphics accelerators fglrx ?????
[02:28] <alex____> Yes
[02:28] <alex____> Its what I'm using
[02:28] <selena2013> i think thats what iam using
[02:29] <selena2013> it froze today two times
[02:29] <xixo> w/Xen or KVM can I run FreeBSD?
[02:29] <invitingfaithman> i need help agian please
[02:31] <mJayk> invitingfaithman: whats up
[02:31] <invitingfaithman> ok so i download unetbootin and download source from ubuntu.com and it is downloading to the owner file on the pc will it go to my usb or the pc??
[02:32] <kepipo> urgh... no satisfying answer from google about this ubiquity-remastersys problem.
[02:32] <mJayk> invitingfaithman: it will go to whereever you internet downloads normally go or where ever you told it to go to
[02:32] <dr_willis> what do you mean by download source .. invitingfaithman
[02:33] <invitingfaithman> i ment downloaded the source from ubuntu.com
[02:33] <dr_willis> you mean the ISO file?
[02:36] <dr_willis> some of the usb-disk maker tools at the pendrivelinux site can autobdownload the needed iso files.  not sure if unetbootin can do that
[02:37] <invitingfaithman> dr_willis will i have a chance to pull the download from the destanation before i copy to usb
[02:38] <dr_willis> i download the iso via a browser.. to my downloads directory.
[02:38] <dr_willis> most of the tools look there for the right named iso files
[02:39] <fluvvell> Steen; hi!
[02:39] <Steen> Hello to you fluvvell
[02:40] <burfl> evening folks, i am having trouble connecting to my Ubuntu samba share from my Windoze machine.. any advice/assistance?
[02:40] <fluvvell> Steen, ping
[02:40] <burfl> ufw is disabled, checked that
[02:42] <fluvvell>  I've setup a new drive with GPT and copied my system to it. It doesnt really boot without some assistance from a boot disk. Does anyone have a good grub/gpt help page?
[02:42] <burfl> no samba experts here, eh?
[02:43] <fluvvell> burfl, users and config'ers but few like to call themselves experts
[02:43] <burfl> fluvvell, fair enough.. knowledgeable enough to offer advice as to what culprits may be likely?
[02:44] <mJayk> burfl: I dispise samba its never worked properly for me :(
[02:44] <root0> HELLO
[02:45] <root0> I AM ROOT
[02:45] <escott> !rootirc
[02:45] <fluvvell> burfl, culprits for what symptoms
[02:45] <MeiMei> root0: hi
[02:45] <root0> no possible w00t
[02:45] <burfl> fluvvell the symptom is that I can't see the samba share from windows
[02:46] <root0> mega haxx
[02:46] <burfl> there is no active firewall on the linux box and they both seem to be on the same workgroup... at least they both have the same workgroup name set
[02:46] <burfl> in honesty, I'm not sure how to be sure they're *actually* on the same workgroup beyond that
[02:46] <fluvvell> burfl, did you configure your /etc/samba/smb.conf file yourself or just share from nautilus?
[02:46] <root0> ob3y y0ur ma5t3r
[02:47] <burfl> fluvvell, shared from nautilus and when that failed I fired up the Samba GUI and created a share with the "add share" button
[02:48] <dr_willis> can the linux box ping  ghe windows box!
[02:48] <dr_willis> ?  :-P
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> can someone get rid of this "1337" doofus?
[02:48] <burfl> dr_willis, I don't know.  It would be a huge stretch to call myself a networking novice even
[02:49] <dr_willis> ping windows.box.ip.number
[02:50] <dr_willis> and see if tthe windows box can ping the linux boxs ip number
[02:51] <fluvvell> burfl, there are plenty of good help pages in t' interwebs, but I've always edited the file myself. Which gui did you use for samba?
[02:51] <burfl> fluvvell, the one that is had by doing 'sudo apt-get install system-config-samba'
[02:51] <burfl> dr_willis, the ping from the linux box seems to have worked
[02:52] <burfl> it was saying "64 bytes received from..."
[02:53] <n-iCe> mJayk: still here?
[02:54] <n-iCe> I don't think so, anyway, why would my installation of 12.10 did not install gnome2?
[02:56] <mJayk> hi n-iCe no luck ?
[02:56] <n-iCe> mJayk: no luck, I don't have that tools/configuration icons on my username at login
[02:57] <mJayk> strange
[02:57] <mJayk> you can always download it
[02:57] <n-iCe> gnome2?
[02:57] <n-iCe> Then I should download and install Ubuntu server, don't you think so?
[02:58] <mJayk> n-iCe:  no - :) might have found what ur after
[02:59] <mJayk> n-iCe: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[02:59] <n-iCe> let's read that
[02:59] <nydel> i need some help. i messed up whatever bootloader is installed by wubi, and had to use a windows bootable usb to be able to boot back into windows. now i do not have that menu that usually has the options of windows 7, ubuntu -- i am currently booted into ubuntu via a usb stick & i can mount the wubi root.disk -- how can i get the old boot menu back?
[02:59] <n-iCe> by the way, can you remind me the compiz configuration package? cssm?
[03:00] <mJayk> nydel: can you boot into windows at all ?
[03:00] <nydel> mJayk: i can now, yes. windows is fine. but i am not asked / given the option to boot into ubuntu.
[03:00] <fluvvell> burfl, are you viewing yet, sorry I popped away and installed system-config-samba on my test vm,
[03:00] <mJayk> nydel: ok so we need to repair grub from windows
[03:01] <nydel> mJayk: mind you this is a wubi installation, is it still grub that needs to be repaired?
[03:01] <chicognu> what is the pendrive device in linux ?
[03:01] <mJayk> nydel: yus
[03:01] <chicognu> /dev/ what ?
[03:01] <nydel> mJayk: lovely, i'll boot into windows and come back okay?
[03:01] <burfl> fluvvell, sorry I don't know what you mean by "are you viewing yet"?  I'm not able to see the share if that's what you mean.  I was trying to read up on the smb.conf file, but the docs are extensive :\
[03:01] <mJayk> nydel: sure
[03:01] <nydel> mJayk: thank you so much. brb
[03:01] <chicognu> what is the pendrive device in linux ? /dev/what ?
[03:02] <fluvvell> burfl,  yes. Yes they are.  So did you set viewable by everybody?
[03:02] <p014k> I recently updated from 10.04 to 12.10. I'm running classic mode, because I prefer it. I'm having a problem with the workspaces. I have a 3x3 grid set up, however in the workspace preview matrix in the lower right panel, the previews of what windows are in which workspaces don't show up (only the upper right workspace is populated). Also, all the windows I have open are displayed in the bottom panel. I would like it to be like it was before where only wi
[03:02] <p014k> ndows open in the current workspace are displayed in the bottom panel.
[03:02] <MoPac> I would really appreciate it if someone could help me get devilspie to actually open windows in a different workspace/viewport
[03:02] <n-iCe> ok, mJayk gnome-panel installed, I'm going to log out
[03:02] <burfl> fluvvell, the two checkboxes? Yes
[03:04] <fluvvell> burfl, in a terminal, type smbtree
[03:04] <icesword> !ubuntu cn
[03:04] <n-iCe> Perfect!!!! mJayk !!!
[03:04] <mJayk> n-iCe:  any luck
[03:04] <burfl> fluvvell, k gimme one sec I'm running back and forth between the two machines
[03:04] <icesword> !cn
[03:04] <n-iCe> yeah, is awesome now, just like I remember :))) and RAM is about 400MB and not 1GB+
[03:04] <mJayk> n-iCe: good :D ive installed so many desktops I thought they came by default with ubuntu 2-d
[03:04] <n-iCe> Damn gnome3 and unity
[03:04] <n-iCe> :p
[03:05] <mJayk> n-iCe: happy happy time
[03:05] <burfl> fluvvell, that's very interesting... the linux box seems to see the Windows box
[03:05] <n-iCe> somehow system monitor still says 3.0+ gnome
[03:05] <burfl> it's listed after that "smbtree" command
[03:05] <mJayk> n-iCe: sometimes u still get that when you install a new desktop that doesnt replace the enviroment
[03:06] <mJayk> i.e. i think it would fix that if u booted and installed the kde desktop
[03:06] <mJayk> but u dont want to do that
[03:06] <n-iCe> Can't add new itmes to the bars
[03:08] <nydel> hello i'm back
[03:08] <nydel> & booted into windows7
[03:08] <mJayk> n-iCe: which bars
[03:08] <mJayk> nydel: haya
[03:08] <xangua> n-iCe: hold shift or alt, it was one of those
[03:08] <p014k> Also, when I click the workspace switcher in the lower right to change workspaces, it goes to a desktop with no panels and lags for a long time,.
[03:08] <patrickkay> nydel: check out this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:09] <xangua> alt+right clic it says http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed n-iCe
[03:09] <nydel> patrickkay, i'm headed there now, thank you verily
[03:09] <patrickkay> nydel, i've used it before but not with a wubi installation
[03:10] <n-iCe> xangua: awesome, you are right!
[03:10] <mJayk> nydel: patrickkay i dont think its the same
[03:10] <fluvvell> burfl, have you rebooted the windows box, and are they on the same workgroup?
[03:10] <nydel> patrickkay, at this point i'm not very scared of anything ... how i got here is,
[03:10] <fluvvell> burfl, and has the windows box got a firewall running?
[03:10] <patrickkay> mJayk: may not be, true
[03:10] <mJayk> nydel: in wubi i think u need to replace the wubildr in c:\wubi
[03:11] <mJayk> patrickkay: im not 100% sure if its the same or not i just dont think it is :)
[03:11] <nydel> patrickkay, mJayk, perhaps an upgrade was interrupted, the end result being i had either no working kernel or broken symbolic links in my root directory (of wubi loop) .. dpkg was messed up, initramfs was where it would hang, trying to generate the initrd files in /boot
[03:12] <burfl> fluvvell, I have rebooted it multiple times.  I *think* they are on the same workgroup.  I mean they both have the same workgroup name listed.  I never had to enter any passwords or anything.  Honestly, I'm not sure if there's a firewall on the Windows machine because it's blasted W8 and I don't know where to find it haha
[03:12] <patrickkay> mJayk: well I'll defer, I'm not that experienced with this
[03:12] <n-iCe> now all is awesome!
[03:12] <n-iCe> thank you guys
[03:12] <nydel> mJayk, where can i findn the correct wubildr?
[03:12] <mJayk> nydel: if that was the case wudnt grub still show up and crash after you select an option
[03:12] <fluvvell> burfl, with w8, you need to turn off homegroups
[03:13] <n-iCe> mJayk: xangua http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4305/screenshotfrom201303042.png
[03:13] <mJayk> nydel: depends on what version of ubuntu you had
[03:13] <n-iCe> Now looks neat, clean and smooth
[03:13] <burfl> fluvvell, I have homegroups disabled
[03:13] <burfl> and I just disabled the firewall.
[03:13] <mJayk> nydel: usually a few repos around with them if u tell me I can have a look
[03:13] <mJayk> n-iCe: nice :)
[03:13] <burfl> fluvvell, should I reboot after that?
[03:13] <nydel> mJayk, you would think, but instead the bootloader would show up but ubuntu option would stick. one day i booted into windows, it updated & rebooted, somehow auto it booted into ubuntu running kernel 3.5.0.20 -- i noticed that there was no 3.5.0.20 in /boot though
[03:14] <fluvvell> burfl, yup
[03:14] <mJayk> nydel: but now grub doesnt show up atall ?
[03:14] <nydel> mJayk, i moved so many things and did so many operations trying to get a working kernel & link thereto that by the time i had the balls to reboot, i had installed grub2 which i now realize was a mistake
[03:14] <nydel> now it boots directly into windows with no menu
[03:15] <mJayk> ok
[03:15] <nightdemon666> hmm, quite. well just FYI, im here ot help, so anyone asking a question, im here to "attempt" to help as best i can :)
[03:15] <nydel> the menu i had was the white on black two-item list with Ubuntu on top -- i remember that it was from windows that i changed the boot order
[03:15] <mJayk> nydel: so point 1 u may have buuggered up ur linux install via kernal buggering
[03:15] <burfl> fluvvell, okay then I'll be back, I'm actually speaking to you on the windows box.
[03:15] <mJayk> nydel: but i still think that the first thing to do is get grub back which I dont think was caused by the kernal buggering
[03:16] <nydel> mJayk, yes but there is a good kernel on the loop somewhere, i think that the initrd ln -s is pointing to it at the moment too
[03:16] <nightdemon666> um. i dontknow where you are on your troubleshooting mjayk, but have you issued the sudo update-grub2 command to fix grub menu not showing before boot?
[03:16] <p014k> Anyone on my issue?
[03:17] <nydel> so how, from windows7 perhaps, can i get that good old boot menu back?
[03:17] <mJayk> nightdemon666: will that work with a wubi install ? I was going to suggest replacing the wubildr
[03:17] <nightdemon666> p014k, what is your issue, i just got here...
[03:17] <nydel> i want to avoid moving c:\ubuntu, installing wubi, then moving c:\ubuntu-copy back
[03:18] <nydel> though i believe that would be a possible solution
[03:18] <burfl> fluvvell, back, not working :(
[03:18] <mJayk> nydel: yea u dont want to do that afaik  -- the wubibldr file is basically just the grub cfg file but for wubi
[03:18] <p014k> I recently updated from 10.04 to 12.10. I'm running classic mode, because I prefer it. I'm having a problem with the workspaces. I have a 3x3 grid set up, however in the workspace preview matrix in the lower right panel, the previews of what windows are in which workspaces don't show up (only the upper right workspace is populated). Also, all the windows I have open are displayed in the bottom panel. I would like it to be like it was before where only wi
[03:18] <p014k> ndows open in the current workspace are displayed in the bottom panel.
[03:18] <p014k> Also, when I click the workspace switcher in the lower right to change workspaces, it goes to a desktop with no panels and lags for a long time,.
[03:19] <fluvvell> burfl, w8 really sux I'm sorry, brb
[03:19] <mJayk> nydel: if u install grub 2 or grub over the top it overwrites the "wubi grub" but doent see any other os's because ubuntu is inside windows so just boots straight to windows
[03:19] <victover> ok this is really weird. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and I was tryying to drag and drop xbmc into my unity bar and now I have a space inbetween apps. please
[03:19] <burfl> fluvvell, take your time, I appreciate any help you can offer.  I'll brb as well
[03:19] <victover> help
[03:20] <mJayk> burfl: i emphasise with your samba problems :)
[03:21] <mJayk> epmathise ?
[03:21] <mJayk> cant even spell it >(
[03:21] <patrickkay> heh
[03:21] <PlastikSpork> I am looking for suggestions on ways to back up and restore my entire ubuntu installation.
[03:21] <nightdemon666> gosh p014k, from the sounds of it, you are still operating in the gnome 2.X GUI, is this correct?
[03:22] <mJayk> PlastikSpork: .iso ur hdd
[03:22] <Degru> PlastikSpork: You could make a disk image
[03:22] <Degru> PlastikSpork: Also, if reinstalling make a separate partition for your /home and another for /.
[03:22] <dr_willis> !backup
[03:22] <PlastikSpork> Yes I would like to make a disk image and back it up on a network drive and then if I mess up my ubuntu installation I can restore that image
[03:23] <dr_willis> clonezilla can do that
[03:24] <Degru> PlastikSpork: you can go on a livecd and run "dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/server.img"
[03:24] <PlastikSpork> Since all of my data (pictures, movies, etc) will be stored on a server an entire disc image would work the best...  dr_willis I am downloading clonezilla now
[03:24] <nydel> mJayk, i have a copy of the wubildr file that i made before i started all this. where does it go?
[03:24] <nydel> mJayk, or is placement of that not enough
[03:24] <Degru> PlastikSpork: that will clone the entire disk and will only work for that specific disk
[03:24] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  dd sounds to complicated
[03:24] <p014k> nightdemon666: I don't think I am. I know GNOME classic in 12.10 tries to make it appear like the old-style, but I have Unity too, so it's 3.0, no?
[03:24] <mJayk> nydel: i think a replacement is enough
[03:24] <mJayk> nydel: are you in windows ? if so go to C:\wubi
[03:25] <PlastikSpork> Degru I am downloading clonezilla... what are your thoughts on this program?
[03:25] <Degru> PlastikSpork: It's actually pretty simple. if is the in-file, or the device/file you're copying from. /dev/sda is your first internal drive. of is out-file, or the device or file you're copying to.
[03:25] <nydel> c:\ubuntu
[03:25] <Degru> PlastikSpork: I haven't used it
[03:25] <mJayk> nydel: and find the wubildr file in there and replace it
[03:25] <Degru> PlastikSpork: but it seems like a good program according to most people
[03:25] <nydel> in c:\ubuntu\winboot there is a wubildr
[03:26] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  dd comes on the ubuntu live cd?
[03:26] <mJayk> nydel: I would rename that WUBILDR.BADMAN
[03:26] <Degru> PlastikSpork: dd comes with any decent linux livecd.
[03:26] <nydel> but where should i copy it? i mean, windows isn't going to read c:\ubuntu at all during bootup
[03:26] <mJayk> nydel: and then put the otherone in there
[03:26] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  how do you use dd?  all terminal commands?
[03:27] <Degru> PlastikSpork: yes. "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/server/file.img"
[03:27] <victover> nevermind I fixed it. We are good
[03:27] <nightdemon666> yeah it wqould be, im just kinda confiused that your workspace switcher is on the botom right hand screen, isnt that what you said p014k?
[03:27] <Degru> PlastikSpork: simplest way imo
[03:27] <mJayk> Degru: will that work completley from start to finish ?
[03:27] <nydel> ok i renamed it to wubildr.badman.lol & copied a known-working one in its place
[03:28] <mJayk> nydel: REBOOT -> CHEER -> WIN!
[03:28] <mJayk> nydel: hopfully
[03:28] <nydel> but mJayk why would the windows boot know to look in c:\ubuntu\winboot at all?
[03:28] <nydel> i haven't told anything to do that yet
[03:28] <PlastikSpork> Degru if=/dev/sda is the hard drive that ubuntu is installed onto?
[03:28] <Degru> mJayk: It won't show progress, but if you leave it to run it will make an exact clone of the entire drive into the out-file. It will only work with that specific HDD, though.
[03:28] <burfl> fluvvell, I'm back fyi
[03:28] <Degru> PlastikSpork: Is Ubuntu taking up the whole harddrive or is it dual-boot?
[03:29] <mJayk> Degru: thanks for that so much simpler than my previous methods
[03:29] <PlastikSpork> Ubuntu is only OS no dual boot
[03:29] <mJayk> nydel: I dont fully understand how wubi is able to work the way it does tbh
[03:29] <nightdemon666> oh yeah, degru, so it turns out in order for me to perform secure user switching it requires me to lock screen frm the keyboard short cut made for /usr/bin/xscreensaver-command 0-lock. then i can switch users securely.. like win 7. but now im on the quest to removing the switch user option from the unity menu :)
[03:30] <PlastikSpork> Degru: Ubuntu is only OS no dual boot
[03:30] <Degru> PlastikSpork: THen it should work fine. Remember it will only work on that specific HDD. You can restore it with "dd if=/path/to/server/file.img of=/dev/sda"
[03:30] <mJayk> nightdemon666: why would you want to remove it ?
[03:30] <Degru> PlastikSpork: It doesn't show progress, though.
[03:31] <nightdemon666> because of the insecurity of both an admin, and standard user being logged in doest require a password from unity's "switch user" option.
[03:31] <p014k> nightdemon666: Ya. That's where it usually always was in classic.
[03:31] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  how can you tell its done then if it doesnt show progress?
[03:31] <Degru> PlastikSpork: look in your disk manager to see which /dev/sdX device is your mUbuntu HDD.
[03:31] <Degru> PlastikSpork: THe command should show how much it's copied once finished and give you the terminal prompt.
[03:31] <mJayk> nightdemon666: so if me (admin) logs in switch user to Wife (obviously not an admin) she can access admin privs ?
[03:32] <xiox_> anyone know if a MicroATX mobo will fit in an ATX case?
[03:32] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  yes my hard drive is /dev/sda
[03:32] <patrickkay> xiox_, yes, normally
[03:32] <xiox_> excellent
[03:32] <xiox_> i scoped out a new PC for $180
[03:33] <mJayk> xiox_:  = mr burns ?
[03:33] <Degru> PlastikSpork: This is not the safest method, though, because when restoring if you type the wrong device it will overwrite any data on the drive.
[03:33] <patrickkay> nice
[03:33] <nightdemon666> seems so mjayk... but it seems only if you have removed gnome-screensaver, and replaced with xscreensaver, unless i changed somehting that i no longer know how that affected "switch user"
[03:33] <xiox_> no mr burns is a cartoon
[03:33] <xiox_> i am a person
[03:33] <DontGotNoProxy> this is a little of topic, but does anyone know any ways of overlaying black semi-transparent on a screen (want it darker than my backlight permits, eyes are burning)? - linux
[03:33] <xiox_> of high caliber mind you
[03:33] <mJayk> xiox_: good to hear it
[03:33] <mJayk> nightdemon666: ah never knew that
[03:34] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  So if I plug in an external USB HDD and copy image to it with DD I can restore from that external HDD... being careful not to overwrite my external HDD
[03:34] <devxdev> DontGotNoProxy, Redshift or f.lux
[03:34] <Degru> DontGotNoProxy: Try f.lux. stereopsis.com/flux
[03:34] <nightdemon666> i do all the time. i log in as standard user, then when i need to, i log in to admin user... well thing is, if im logged in as a standard user, then select "swicth user" from unity menue, i go straight to admin user if admin user is already logged in. no pasword needed! :(
[03:34] <nydel> mJayk, this guide seems apropos http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/
[03:35] <DontGotNoProxy> "But, at 9PM, 10PM, or 3AM, you probably shouldn't be looking at the sun. " haha
[03:35] <Degru> PlastikSpork: yes. Just switch around the stuff for if and of
[03:35] <nydel> mJayk, however the software, EasyBCD is not free, are you aware of an equivalent thing? i tried installing lilo using chroot from a ubuntu boot-thumb but had no luck
[03:35] <nightdemon666> so, its convenient to be able to do that sometimes, but from a security stand point, bad ju ju. so im thinking i should get rid of the swich user option all together unless called out when screen is locked in xscreensaver
[03:35] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  There is no way of doing this natively in ubuntu without booting form live cd?
[03:36] <mJayk> nydel: that should work but u can bugger alot of stuff up because you wont be fixing the problem just creating a new mbr
[03:36] <Degru> PlastikSpork: It's cloning your entire drive, so it might break something if it's mounted and the system is running from it.
[03:36] <mJayk> nightdemon666: sounds to me like an xscreensaver problem tbh
[03:36] <Degru> PlastikSpork: clonezilla is probably better if you don't want to screw stuff up
[03:37] <mJayk> Degru: no1 wants to screw stuff up
[03:37] <nydel> mJayk, do you think if i move my c:\ubuntu, reinstall wubi, then replace the root.disk in the new c:\ubuntu that i will get the old bootmenu back? (assume for a moment that my root.disk works)
[03:37] <PlastikSpork> Degru:  Gotcha... I'm just used to using Windows backup... it backs everything up and makes a disk image weekly automatically... I m going to miss that :-(
[03:37] <Degru> mJayk: of course. just saying that if you type something wrong for dd it'll screw stuff up.
[03:38] <mJayk> nydel: id cautiously say yes
[03:38] <mJayk> Degru: just pulling you leg :)
[03:40] <DontGotNoProxy> dont thin f.lux worked properly
[03:41] <mJayk> Nighty Night all 341 am here
[03:41] <nydel> mJayk, hopefully the next time you hear from me i'll be booted into wubi. after that i'm partitioning & doing a proper install
[03:41] <nydel> thanks for all the help
[03:41] <nydel> oh and goodnight then
[03:41] <mJayk> gl
[03:41] <nydel> ty
[03:41] <mJayk> :) ill wait
[03:42] <mJayk> gogo
[03:42] <mJayk> :)
[03:42] <nydel> lol gogoing
[03:42] <PlastikSpork> Does anyone know if it is possible to install Clonezilla natively without burning it to a live cd?
[03:42] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: Give Linux a chance, you will wonder how you ever lived without it.
[03:43] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: Most people I know use Filezilla for FTP.
[03:43] <PlastikSpork> rypervenche:  I've been trying to use linux for going on 12 years now....  I just keep going back to windows... 12 years a go it was a night mare... its getting muuuuuuuuch better though
[03:43] <mJayk> rypervenche: I dont think hes ftping
[03:43] <nightdemon666> agreed mjayk. ubuntu developers didnt accomodate for xscreensaver.. i did however write a shell script and thought that gnome-screensaver-command coud be symlinked to the shell script command, but no worky. the symlink worked fine when executed, but i cant seem to find the connection between "lock screen" on unity menu and a file associated with the function :/
[03:43] <rypervenche> Oh...
[03:44] <n-iCe> PlastikSpork: I have not used Windows in about 6 years
[03:44] <n-iCe> I remember my laptop using Windows Vista I did not even boot it up, used a cd to install linux.
[03:44] <nightdemon666> p014k, i guess i never really could help you with your problem. it sounds like you are having issues with your desktop environment. it also sounds like an distro upgrade problem. i never perform a distro up grade if i can help it :P
[03:44] <n-iCe> no regrets
[03:44] <mJayk> nightdemon666: thats bloody strange ...there are no obvious links
[03:44] <PlastikSpork> rypervenche:  Clonezilla... not filezilla
[03:44] <nightdemon666> but i would have to trouble shoot the issue if i was you
[03:44] <ivotkl> I have not used Windows in almost 4 and I'm proud as hell of my decision. =)
[03:44] <rypervenche> n-iCe: No regrets indeed. *highfive*
[03:45] <mJayk> n-iCe: 6 years and still the same DE ? :D
[03:45] <nightdemon666> no htere isnt mjayk. i looked in gconf-editor and dconf-editor and i didnt see any obvious links.
[03:45] <robert45> hi guys, is it possible to trim down a running Ubuntu 12.04 to a minimal version? I see I have ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-mininal packages, not sure if its related
[03:45] <PlastikSpork> n-iCe:  I'm just used to Windows and when I try to do the same advance things with Linux there is so a difference and learning curve that I get frustrated.
[03:45] <nightdemon666> lol, agreed to that ivotkl
[03:46] <mJayk> nightdemon666: I assumed you had looked it is strange though going tokeep me up
[03:46] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: Ah. Well on Linux, you don't make a CD of your backup. You can use sftp, rdiff-backup, or rsnapshot to do the job. I keep 30 backups of my laptop on two external hard drives, all of which are encrypted.
[03:46] <nightdemon666> it kept me up till 1 am last night mjayk
[03:47] <burfl_> fluvvell, sorry if you were trying to talk to me, I had to relog my win account and didn't realize it killed the IRC
[03:47] <PlastikSpork> rypervenche:  I don't want to make a cd of backup I want to store it on my server
[03:47] <usr13> PlastikSpork: man rsync
[03:47] <fluvvell> burfl, no problem
[03:47] <mJayk> PlastikSpork: i think by cd he ment .iso
[03:47] <p014k> nightdemon666: Ya. I'm in the same mindset, but I really didn't want to do a clean install this time. I may just be annoyed for a week or two and then do it.
[03:47] <nightdemon666> just an anouncement, i have been using linux based distributions since 2009, and i am so glad i did. not a windows hater, but i always wanted a fully customizable system with such enormous flexability. thank you richard stallman and linus torvalds!!!
[03:48] <usr13> PlastikSpork: Do you want to make an ISO image?
[03:48] <dr_willis> clonezilla  has some neat features..that i neveruse. ;-)
[03:48] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: Exactly. You don't need that. You can use any of the three programs that I mentioned.
[03:48] <ivotkl> cheers for that nightdemon666!!!
[03:48] <fluvvell> burfl, It seems samba is well equipped for dealing with w8 according to their website, but specifics on setup may differ depending on your network.
[03:48] <fluvvell> burfl_, can you ping the linux box by name from the w8 box?
[03:48] <mJayk> nightdemon666:  do you remember your first linux distro?
[03:48] <usr13> PlastikSpork: I think rsync is what you are looking for. (If you want to do the backup from the running system to another on your LAN).
[03:49] <burfl_> fluvvell, how do I check it's name/ip?
[03:49] <burfl_> its*
[03:49] <PlastikSpork> rypervenche:  excellent... pretty easy to use?
[03:49] <fluvvell> burfl_, what did you call the linux box?
[03:49] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: rsync is awesome! If you want to have many incremental backups, you can use rdiff-backup or rsnapshot.
[03:49] <burfl_> fluvvell, it took a default name based on the CPU model... I would have to look it up
[03:49] <burfl_> how do i check that
[03:50] <rypervenche> PlastikSpork: Yes, once you gen used to the syntax. If you'd like help with an exact command, send me a PM and I'll help you.
[03:50] <PlastikSpork> rypervenche:  seems like rsync is installed already whoohoo
[03:50] <fluvvell> burfl_, at a terminal prompt, it will tell you its name ie:   yourlogin@pc_name:
[03:50] <burfl_> derp
[03:50] <nightdemon666> sure. fedora 11. never frget it. i wanted to bang my head against the wall and reinstalled 8ntimes before i finally said, ok, i know what to mess with and what not too. of course we are talking about fedora after all. and i was tryingot operat it on a acer aspire one at the time, gosh what a mess. but it taught me sooooo much. i didnt do what a lot of people havedone and go ubuntu first. but i went to ubuntu for the st
[03:50] <usr13> PlastikSpork: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[03:51] <burfl_> fluvell, hmmm is it case sensitive?
[03:51] <mJayk> suse 9.0 free CD with some bad PC magazine from the doctors waiting room :D
[03:51] <burfl_> fluvvell, sorry I misspelled your name above, is it case sensitive?
[03:51] <mJayk> bloody hated it
[03:51] <nightdemon666> now, sicne i have been operatingin that enviromnent so much for so long, i can pretty much do any linux distro. just need ot know what the package manager is, and i'll figure the rest out if its a little different. though about going BSD too, just to give it a spin.
[03:52] <PlastikSpork> usr13 thanks for the link
[03:52] <Degru> mJayk: i used to have suse, but then the package manager broke.
[03:52] <fluvvell> burfl_, yes - have you got irc on the linux box? This would be easier with xchat installed
[03:52] <mJayk> Degru: lol ... and then the packagemanager broke
[03:52] <usr13> !topic
[03:52] <burfl_> fluvvell i can get it... is that simply 'apt-get install xchat'?
[03:53] <fluvvell> burfl_, yup
[03:53] <burfl_> ok brb
[03:53] <Degru> fluvvell: i like irssi; it's a console program
[03:53] <mJayk> Degru: I bloody hated it 14 years old with a white box and no internet line it was so useless
[03:53] <nightdemon666> i tried suse, actually i liked it, but i was both a little inexperienced and the hardware didnt cooperate well with it, which made it worse. now i probably could make it work more easily. i know a lot more commands via terminal.
[03:53] <Degru> mJayk: well that package manager must've been pretty useless
[03:54] <usr13> fluvvell: I agree with Degru, irssi is a good IRC client.
[03:54] <mJayk> Degru: the Cd's that came with the mag's used to have 3 cds
[03:54] <fluvvell> Degru, good for you. I might try it too then. I've just used xchat for, oh about a decade, and forget to look for new ones.
[03:54] <mJayk> Degru_away: 1 for the OS and 2 Repos CD's :)
[03:54] <nightdemon666> gosh, i just use pidgin for irc chat :/
[03:54] <scotty> fluvvell, this is burfl on the linux box
[03:55] <mJayk> irssi ftw nightdemon666
[03:55] <selena2013> lol
[03:55] <Guest51988> ugh, now i'm Guest51988
[03:55] <Degru_away> I'm away. Please don't chat with me until I change my nick back to Degru.
[03:55] <fluvvell> scotty, excellent.  Whats the name of the box then? from the command prompt?
[03:56] <mJayk> lolololol Guest51988
[03:56] <usr13> fluvvell: irssi is (relatively) old. (1999)
[03:57] <Guest51988> how do i change my nick?
[03:57] <n-iCe> use /nick newnick
[03:57] <usr13> Guest51988: /nick
[03:57] <nightdemon666> i guess xchat is too.. ive used it once i think. comes preinstalled on damnsmall linux i think...
[03:57] <Guest51988> test
[03:57] <Guest51988> nope
[03:58] <caldronis> how dose one register with services?
[03:58] <p014k> there you go
[03:58] <p014k> caldronis: /msg nickserv help
[03:58] <burfl> fluvvell, sorry what did you want now? I was switched to a guest
[03:58] <caldronis> ty
[03:58] <usr13> nightdemon666: xchat initial release June 1999
[03:59] <p014k> xchat is awesome
[03:59] <usr13> nightdemon666: irssi, January 1999
[03:59] <nightdemon666> yeah i thought it was that old lol
[03:59] <dbrown> helloall
[03:59] <burfl> fluvvell, the box name is 'scotty-bunch-of-letters'
[04:00] <dbrown> i have a major issue
[04:00] <fluvvell> burfl, so can you ping "scotty-bunch-of-letters" from a command line on the w8 box
[04:00] <burfl> fluvvell, no it failed
[04:00] <Degru> irssi has tab key autocomplete for nicks
[04:00] <nightdemon666> i used mIRC back in the 90's lol, but then i was on windows 95
[04:01] <fluvvell> burfl, so if you go ifconfig on the linux box, and get your inet address for eth0, then ping the ip number from the w8 box, does that work?
[04:01] <fluvvell> burfl, I think you need a simpler name
[04:01] <fluvvell> burfl, for the linux box
[04:01] <burfl> fluvvell, command to change it?
[04:01] <nightdemon666> had i known better i would have used linu then though. dont know how that would have workewd out. i would imagine it was touch to get things working back in the 90's on junk gateway computer hardware :P
[04:01] <fluvvell> burfl, and did you turn off home group?
[04:01] <burfl> fluvvell yes
[04:02] <burfl_> fluvvell, btw pinging by ip works
[04:02] <burfl_> 4 packets sent, 4 received
[04:03] <xxiao> mir
[04:04] <fluvvell> burfl, try editing /etc/hostname and then rebooting
[04:04] <nightdemon666> p014k, do you have compiz config setting manager installed?? just a suggestion that might help you troubleshoot, that it may be a compiz thing...
[04:04] <xxiao> burfl_: no need to reboot
[04:05] <xxiao> hostname newname && hostname -f && echo newname > /etc/hostname && relogin
[04:05] <burfl_> fluvvell, okay i'll try that one sec
[04:05] <nightdemon666> hey, xxiao, what does using the & with another & mean. i know & means run in background, but how about two "&&" what does htat do???
[04:05] <p014k> nightdemon666: Ya, it's installed. It may be that. I'll just do a clean install soon.
[04:06] <p014k> Or is there a way to reset the settings to default
[04:06] <nightdemon666> p014k, it would be easier probably :P
[04:06] <nightdemon666> on compiz yes
[04:06] <xxiao> nightdemon666: it means the commands must exit 0, i.e succeeds , otherwise the following cmds will not run
[04:06] <dbrown> can someone point me to the ubuntu devoloper channel?
[04:06] <xxiao> dbrown: ubuntu-devel
[04:07] <dbrown> thanks
[04:07] <xxiao> frankly, after all those wayland/compiz/whatever/now-mir i'm thinking about debian again
[04:07] <nightdemon666> oh, means, first command must run before the next one in the line xxiao?
[04:07] <burfl_> fluvvell, I'll take this opportunity (while the nix box reboots) to thank you for donating your time to my cause.  it is appreciated.  you guys are unsung heroes
[04:08] <xxiao> nightdemon666: only if the previous command runs and has no issue, then the next one will run
[04:09] <p014k> crap. I hit restore to defaults and instead it unchecked everything.
[04:09] <p014k> Now I don't know what I had...
[04:09] <p014k> rather, what should be checked
[04:09] <nightdemon666> lol, xxiao, you know i thought very hard about going to just debian before i went ubuntu 12.04, but im actually ok with unity. im ok with it going the tablet direction, and thats ok. it isnt that bad. somethings just plain dont make sicne, like why they got rid of the desktop launcher, but very close ot just installing debian. i would have installed compiz anyway :D LOVE THEM EFFECTS! even if my netbook struggles with 
[04:10] <burfl_> fluvvell, pinging from w8 to nix now works as expected using both the ip and the box name
[04:10] <burfl_> but the box does not appear in file explorer
[04:10] <fluvvell> burfl_, thats good news
[04:10] <ghost562> Hello Guvnah!
[04:10] <nightdemon666> i have a good idea to that p014k, if you pull up a live cd, it shows all the defaults... may take a bit but there arent oo many
[04:10] <fluvvell> burfl_, but what happens if you use \\box-name\  in the address bar of the file explorer
[04:10] <nightdemon666> thats what i do when i muck stuff up... just run a live image and clone settings.
[04:11] <ghost562> How Would I Go Upon Closing A Non Responsive App?
[04:11] <burfl_> fluvvell, you're genius...
[04:11] <nightdemon666> you can break a live image all day long lol
[04:11] <alen> I want to change permission of one of my root folder in such a way so that Current login user can write the file in that folder ,Not All(like Guest).Which command i should try?
[04:11] <giiker> is it normal in Ubuntu to need to be root to create folders in an encrypted (with Truecrypt) external HDD ?
[04:11] <nightdemon666> yopu ned to put thatuser in the correct group alen
[04:12] <fluvvell> burfl_, its been suggested before... ;-)
[04:12] <burfl_> fluvvell, I cannot understand why network discovery didn't work on it's own, but I just created two folders remotely, so I think we might be good
[04:12] <fluvvell> the genius bit lol
[04:12] <nightdemon666> yes giiker, you are performing admin task. root "should" be required for admin tasks like drive encryption
[04:12] <burfl_> fluvvell, rightly earned, thanks again for your time
[04:12] <fluvvell> burfl_, yeah the search stuff- not so good.  the name based should be fine
[04:13] <fluvvell> burfl_, no prob
[04:13] <dbrown> is ubuntu seriously moving away from compiz?
[04:13] <caldronis> i'M NOT GETTING THE REGISTERING RIGHT , SOS
[04:14] <alen> nightdemon666:Folder only root can change.please describe more.
[04:15] <nightdemon666> alen, try sudo chown root:currentusername /path/to/file and then perform a chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o-rwx /path/to/file
[04:15] <ghost562> How Would I Go Upon Closing A Non Responsive App?
[04:15] <alen> nightdemon666:Thanks.
[04:16] <ghost562> Right-Clicking And Selecting Quit, Not Working.
[04:16] <nightdemon666> ghost562, perform a sudo kill (pid)
[04:16] <ghost562> nightdemon666, will try.
[04:16] <dbrown> is alen pope in here?
[04:16] <nightdemon666> or sudo kill -9 (pid) run top to see program name thats being a butt :P
[04:16] <ghost562> pid!
[04:17] <nightdemon666> which program is it ghost?
[04:17] <ghost562> video player.
[04:17] <ghost562> movie player, sorry
[04:17] <nightdemon666> which one. vlc?
[04:17] <nightdemon666> or totem?
[04:17] <ghost562> the default ubuntu one
[04:17] <nightdemon666> yeah, you can do a killall totem in your user name in the command line\
[04:18] <ghost562> ok, so
[04:18] <ghost562> sudo killall totem(addusernamehere)?
[04:18] <thoonai> hey
[04:18] <nightdemon666> you dont need root if you ran the program. i advise root user to NOT be used when you can get away with it.
[04:18] <thoonai> how do I list ejabberd registered users?
[04:18] <nightdemon666> no ghost, just killall totem, your user account ran the program
[04:19] <selena2013> thank you Ubuntu i love you
[04:19] <ghost562> ok
[04:19] <nightdemon666> let me know if that did the trick ghost562 :)
[04:20] <ghost562> nightdemon666, just typed it killall totem, that closed it, thanks :D
[04:20] <nightdemon666> :)
[04:20] <ghost562> in
[04:21] <nightdemon666> you only need leading sudo command if root owns that program. you can see that in top when you type it. you can see who is running that app.
[04:21] <nightdemon666> you can also type top | grep totem, and it will show onlt that line as well :)
[04:21] <ajx1999> i need major help
[04:21] <ajx1999> anyone here
[04:22] <nightdemon666> yes
[04:22] <nightdemon666> ajx, whats up?
[04:22] <ajx1999> do you know how to solve the gnu grub screen
[04:22] <ajx1999> i starded it up
[04:22] <nightdemon666> it depends onwhat you want out of it
[04:22] <ajx1999> im using dual boot
[04:22] <ajx1999> i says i cant load kernal
[04:22] <ajx1999> i looked up like 10 tutorials
[04:23] <ajx1999> i have very valuable documents on that side
[04:23] <ghost562> nightdemon666, awesome thanks for the help
[04:23] <ghost562> :D
[04:23] <Jeremy3D> anyone set up a wireless hp printer before with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:23] <Jeremy3D> cause i could use some help on how
[04:23] <ajx1999> can anyone helop me
[04:23] <ajx1999> no one
[04:23] <ajx1999> :(
[04:23] <giiker> nightdemon666: even with truecrypt?
[04:23] <Jeremy3D> wirelessly that is
[04:24] <nightdemon666> i would imagine so giiker, you are doing something to a harddrive.. ususally calls out for root to do that.
[04:24] <giiker> nightdemon666: makes sense to me, thanks for the explanation
[04:25] <nightdemon666> thats a new one on me ajx1999
[04:25] <nightdemon666> let me think...
[04:26] <nightdemon666> does it take you to busybox ajx1999
[04:26] <nightdemon666> and, you have a link to one of those tutorials?
[04:27] <ghost562> ajx1999, just post your question, and if someone has the answer, they will help
[04:27] <elisa87> I want to ssh to my computer at my lab I have this info jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/cuda/rodinia_2.2/cuda/nw$ hpcstruct ./needle ( is jalal@dfyhs5l1 my username?)
[04:27] <ghost562> jeremy3d, post away.
[04:28] <nightdemon666> you might be able to fix running sudo fsck /dev/(sda1 or sda2 or sda3 or what ever it is you have linux installed on)
[04:28] <Jeremy3D> ghost562, i'm researching now to see where to begin.  i was able to run disc that came with printer and set up computer with win7 easily. mac air was a bit trickier cause i just had to hook up usb and then download drivers from hp site.
[04:28] <nightdemon666> i think the user name is jalal elisa
[04:28] <Jeremy3D> i'm supposing i have to do the same thing as the mac for ubuntu, via usb cable. printer is on other side of room and hoping to get it to talk via wifi
[04:29] <dumont> anyone use FDE and dualboot to windows on the same disk?
[04:29] <dumont> is it possible? wouldn't FDE not work for windows partition, ps FDE is full disk encryption
[04:29] <nightdemon666> um, you should be able ot do both dumont
[04:29] <ghost562> jeremy3d, printer offers wireless capabilities?
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> printer has built in wifi yes
[04:29] <xangua> Jeremy3D: is your printer already sync with your wifi¿
[04:29] <dumont> nightdemon666 won't ubuntu software FDE encrypt the whole disk, not just a whole partition?
[04:30] <nightdemon666> jeremy3d, did you look to see if there were wireless drivers on hp site???
[04:30] <Jeremy3D> yea win7 comp and osx comp are both working right now
[04:30] <nightdemon666> linux drivers, sorry not wireless
[04:30] <Jeremy3D> nightdemon666, getting directed here - http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html? reading up on it now
[04:30] <dumont> and since the disk contains windows partition, and windows cannot decrypt ubuntu software FDE, then windows won't dualboot
[04:31] <Jeremy3D> HPLIP Toolbox in software center. that might be all i need
[04:31] <nightdemon666> ok, so... the scoop is, GRUB should be calling out the boot sequence. soooo, you should be able to boot windows or linux via grub with both disk encrypted
[04:32] <nightdemon666> jeremy3d, does the linux generic drivers not work on yur HP printer???
[04:32] <giiker> elisa87: your username should be jalal
[04:32] <Jeremy3D> nightdemon666, i guess what i'm looking for is the hp utility to find and print wirelessly. havent hooked up usb yet cause printer on other side of the room
[04:33] <giiker> elisa87: whatever is after @ is the server followed by the path to a folder to that server
[04:33] <nightdemon666> screw usb jeremy, go wireless... thats hwat you baught it for. i have a brother printer works great and wireless :)
[04:33] <nightdemon666> i second what giiker says again. i run ssh all day long :)
[04:34] <Jeremy3D> right nightdemon666 but i think i gotta go usb temporarily to get it installed correctly. then i can go wifi. this tool i got off software center seems to know whats up
[04:34] <ghost562> jeremy3d, i think thats all you need, once you install the utitilty, hook up via usb, it install driver, then you can remove usb, and hook up via wifi
[04:34] <nightdemon666> i see, if it work, it works, and thats half the battle.. GI JOE!
[04:35] <ghost562> nice one demon :D
[04:35] <giiker> has anyone ever used Irssi and CenterIM, which is one is better, customization wise?
[04:35] <john38> can someone recommend a good way to connect to a https server with login and password?
[04:35] <nightdemon666> lol
[04:35] <john38> on ubuntu
[04:35] <Ben64> john38: firefox
[04:35] <nightdemon666> http://(https ip addrss)
[04:35] <Jeremy3D> ghost562, i think you're correct. will know shortly. thanks for the help, you too nightdemon666
[04:35] <john38> oops
[04:36] <john38> stupid me
[04:36] <giiker> I would only use HTTPS john38 :-)
[04:36] <ghost562> jeremy3d, no problem, thats what we are here for.
[04:36] <dumont> nightdemon666 so who's doing the disk decryption... when booting into windows??
[04:36] <silv3r_m00n> I am using kde, whenever I shutdown, the gnome desktop comes up for 1-2 seconds, does the gnome desktop keep running behind kde ?
[04:37] <nightdemon666> giiker
[04:37] <Ben64> silv3r_m00n: how do you know it's gnome
[04:37] <nightdemon666> whats the secret dumont?
[04:37] <giiker> nightdemon666: yeaah?
[04:37] <dumont> silv3r_m00n why not install kubuntu?
[04:37] <nightdemon666> i think dumont has some info for you gikker
[04:37] <nightdemon666> giiker
[04:37] <giiker> dumont: kernel is
[04:38] <nightdemon666> me spell bad lol
[04:38] <silv3r_m00n> Ben64: the gnome icons and all come up, it's the same thing that comes up when logging in to a gnome session
[04:38] <dumont> giiker.... IN WINDOWS!
[04:38] <john38> Ben64, well the problem is that this is a finance institution site with login and pass thats usually uses a program to connect
[04:38] <john38> giiker, well the problem is that this is a finance institution site with login and pass thats usually uses a program to connect
[04:38] <giiker> dumont: same thing
[04:38] <silv3r_m00n> dumont: i installed ubuntu long back and then installed kubuntu from synaptic too, its continuing since then
[04:38] <john38> nightdemon666, well the problem is that this is a finance institution site with login and pass thats usually uses a program to connect
[04:39] <john38> under windows
[04:39] <dumont> giiker how is ubunut's kernel decrypting the disk when booting and physically running windows?
[04:40] <john38> anybody help me?
[04:40] <nightdemon666> john38, i could see problems with that on ubuntu... if that software isnt supoported on linux, you may have problems :( however, it may be possible to run wine, there may be a linux evrsion of the software, or you can run windows form a VM
[04:40] <spencer> Hey
[04:40] <john38> nightdemon666, oh
[04:40] <spencer> Where is the best place to get help with bash script
[04:41] <nightdemon666> that program is likely a browser plugin of somesort right? john38
[04:41] <ivotkl> Have to go guys. See you later. =)
[04:41] <giiker> dumont: can you elaborate again pls?
[04:41] <john38> nightdemon666, well its a small client that you install on windows with login pass prompt
[04:41] <giiker> dumont: can you ask your question again, I dont want to Pageup to find it
[04:42] <Ben64> john38: can't you just go to the website
[04:42] <john38> nightdemon666, i thought i could do that with remote desktop
[04:42] <john38> Ben64, i tried wont go in
[04:42] <holstein> john38: you can try wine, or ask them for a linux application...
[04:42] <Ben64> what kind of silly bank need to run a program to do online banking
[04:43] <nightdemon666> yeah, seen that before with a home camera set up too... no linux support with that. if you absolutely HAD to access that site from linux you need ot run a vm with windos on it, if you have the resources
[04:43] <cfhowlett> lots of banks use browser specific plug ins ..
[04:43] <Ben64> john38: what bank/website is it?
[04:43] <john38> Ben64, the client is called Encompass360
[04:44] <holstein> john38: how did it work in wine?
[04:44] <john38> holstein, havent tried yet
[04:45] <giiker> john38: I owuld suggest nightdemon666's, run it in a VM if you have good amount of RAM and good CPU, just suspend it when you don't need to run it.
[04:45] <nightdemon666> screw wine.. my opinion
[04:45] <dumont> giiker, the disk contains a windows and an ubuntu system. I want to use software full disk encryption. is it possible or not?
[04:45] <holstein> nightdemon666: i agree, but they are likely not going to give john38 a naitive client.. though it should be requested
[04:46] <dumont> 2 problems: 1. windows doesn't know how to decrypt data encrypted via ubuntu FDE. 2. does FDE encrypt the disk or partition?
[04:46] <nightdemon666> agreed, maybe prmote more linux support :)
[04:46] <giiker> why run wine, which  sometimes is very good really, when you can have everything in a VM?
[04:47] <Ben64> wine doesn't require a windows license
[04:47] <giiker> dumont: do you have separate paritions on Ubuntu?
[04:47] <dumont> why does that matter?
[04:48] <nightdemon666> soo, i would imagin that the disk encryption needs to stay on the separate partitions and invoked per OS. truecrypt for windows run from windows to ecrypt the partition, (might cause issues) then truecrypt for linux run in ubuntu
[04:48] <john38> is there any ubuntu software that enables login pass entry to https
[04:49] <Ben64> john38: i don't think you're going to get what you want here
[04:49] <giiker> dumont: ok, let see what I get from your question, You have a disk with an NTFS and an EXT3/4 parition, right? and you want to encrypt both paritions?
[04:49] <Ben64> john38: and the answer to that is "firefox"
[04:49] <john38> Ben64, ok
[04:49] <one> how do I display dmesg | tail at regular update intervals ?
[04:49] <nightdemon666> john38, i think its really due to browse plugin. if its not supported for linux i'd use a VM for now, but do ask for a linux app to see if its supoported. dont be down on your luck if its not
[04:50] <john38> nightdemon666, cool
[04:50] <nightdemon666> thats a good question one
[04:50] <one> Ubuntu: How do I display dmesg | tail at regular update intervals ?
[04:50] <Ben64> !patience | one
[04:50] <giiker> Ben64: good reason, but I still have my XP disc laying around in the dust, since I switched ti  Linux completley :-)
[04:50] <nightdemon666> you may need ot run another output program one
[04:51] <nightdemon666> dmesg | tail | (someother program)
[04:51] <dumont> giiker I guess that depends if FDE can encrypt only 1 partition.
[04:51] <giiker> john38: if you are using ann app from a finance institution, they might have some real reasons for you to only use that program also
[04:51] <nightdemon666> giiker, i think truecrypt can encrypt partition or disk :) but i would nOT encrypt a whole disk if you have another OS on it
[04:52] <nightdemon666> especially if windows didnt see it coming. i would run encryption software per OS
[04:53] <Nimble> nightdemon666, is it possible to set up encryption per disk and have another disk on the machine without it?
[04:54] <nightdemon666> startuing with windows of course, it case it screws something up. probablyt best to have started out with gparted to allocate the space for ubuntu ahead of time. run partition encryption from windows, make sure its working, then uinstall ubuntu, and run partition encryption on the ubuntu side. that should have both partitions encrypted and both os geared to decrypt :)
[04:55] <nightdemon666> oh i bet nimble... probably the easier way actually
[04:55] <Nimble> hmm
[04:55] <Nimble> I have a computer where I might put windows and ubuntu on separate disks
[04:55] <Nimble> so I'm thinking about it
[04:55] <nightdemon666> do it
[04:56] <nightdemon666> id say encrypt them both though, but do understand that you have to ask your self, what you are encrypting it for...
[04:56] <giiker> nightdemon666: nope at all, after so many tries, encryptions, keys, pssphrases I have decided to keep windows partitions alone, even though I can use Truecrypt on it, encrypt my /home in linux and have 3 full force encrypted redundant backups-1. local (external drive) 2. my parent's house 3. cloud? I haven't decied yet on the cloud option yet
[04:57] <giiker> nightdemon666: I make backups of my encrypted /home to the other redundant ones :-;
[04:57] <nightdemon666> safe choice giiker, screwing with windows partition can f it all up\
[04:57] <nightdemon666> all encrypted giiker? even the back ups?
[04:57] <giiker> nightdemon666: yeap, that's how i learned...
[04:58] <Nimble> nightdemon666, I don't feel like using truecrypt for it
[04:58] <dumont> the situation is even more complicated when doing it on SSD
[04:58] <Nimble> I could do it with bitlocker though
[04:58] <dumont> because SSD automatically reallocates blocks during cleaning
[04:58] <Alakullihal> hay all... are 13.04 support until 18 mounth only?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> Alakullihal, correct
[04:59] <giiker> nightdemon666: yeap, I keep only very often used files unencrypted on my system and that's it, but try to do incremental backups not to have too much date unencrypted
[04:59] <nightdemon666> so honestly i havent gone in and performed disk encryptin except for my admin home folder in ubutnu 12.04. i realize now i should though. all too late.. i can choose ot encrypt when ever i want to right???
[05:00] <Alakullihal> why? it LTS?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> Alakullihal, LTS support is 36 months ...
[05:00] <nightdemon666> Long Term Support
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !LTS|Alakullihal,
[05:01] <Alakullihal> so for 13.04 why 18 mounth only?
[05:01] <giiker> nightdemon666: yeap, you can encrypt later on, but I think it ś safer to do everything from the beginning, since when you change to encrypted partitions, you might run into some problems, at least that's what I heard
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Alakullihal, ALL non-LTS releases are 18 month support.  this is business as usual.
[05:02] <nightdemon666> giiker, i can choose to encrypt when ever i want, even if i installed ubuntu with out encryption right? and truecrypt is best option? ive been reading up on this lately
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Alakullihal, 13.04 will NOT be an LTS release.
[05:02] <xangua> Alakullihal: normal releases are, 13.04 is not LTS, for more /join #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <burfl_> my Ubuntu box went to sleep while xferring large files... any way to stop this from happening?
[05:02] <Alakullihal> oh. 13.04 non-LTS...
[05:02] <nightdemon666> i was afraid of that giiker :/ they should really have that option in the installer
[05:02] <giiker> nightdemon666: yes you can encrypt later
[05:03] <nightdemon666> truecrypt is what you use too right giiker?
[05:03] <burfl_> a clarification: i was transferring files *to* the Ubuntu box
[05:03] <giiker> nightdemon666: I have been using truecrypt for the last 8 years I think, and as long as you keep you keys and passphrases in safe places you are good to go
[05:03] <giiker> nightdemon666: I use TC, yeap
[05:03] <nightdemon666> oh ok, so truecrypt is badass software.. cool. i will keep that in mind :)
[05:04] <nightdemon666> it does take up some additional space thoug doesnt it giiker
[05:04] <giiker> nightdemon666: Truecrypt is so good, that I read a benchmark of a guy that after encrypting his hard drive, windows run much fater on it, I don know if the same was on Linux though
[05:05] <giiker> nightdemon666: what do you mean extra space?
[05:05] <Tex_Nick> Alakullihal:  you might find some useful info here ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[05:05] <Alakullihal> I think it would be nice if ubuntu by rolling release
[05:06] <burfl_> this box is intended to be a home server, how can i stop it from going to sleep?
[05:07] <nightdemon666> i mean causes there ito ultimately be more space comsumed on hard drive because data is encrypted.. true giiker?
[05:07] <giiker> nightdemon666: I never read or heard that. where did you get this?
[05:09] <nightdemon666> an article i happened to brush by on my phone. dont recall exact artical.. so you are saying that x amount of datat encrypted or not is still the same x amount of data. it doesnt cause file size ot get larger or anything?
[05:10] <BlackWeb> I have a 3TB WD Internal Hard Drive, That I'm running into problems with, I've tried parted, & Gparted and I keep running into the same Error, "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir" Any Ideas? Its a brand New Hard Drive, I've tried replacing the SATA Cable, Changing the Position of the Cable & all, The Motherboard is Brand New
[05:11] <nightdemon666> burfl, so i think i remember this being an issue.. i suppose you didnt replace gnome screensaver with xscreensaver, so default screen saver (blank) is set up, and you went in the power setings and turned the sleep off correct?
[05:12] <nightdemon666> blackweb, have you formatted it?
[05:12] <one> How bout that dmesg | tail question?
[05:12] <giiker> nightdemon666: I might have to say here I don know as a matter of fact, but I ḿ going to check my disk to see how much space is left, jejeje!
[05:12] <BlackWeb> ya trying to format it now, & it keeps erroring out,
[05:12] <nightdemon666> it would be nice ot know giiker :)
[05:12] <nightdemon666> let me now what you find
[05:12] <BlackWeb> Input Or Output error
[05:13] <BlackWeb> since its over 2Tb I'm using parted & gpt as the Partition table
[05:13] <nightdemon666> ok... i can probably help with this one... had same issue with seagate...
[05:14] <nightdemon666> blackweb, do you have access to a windows runnign comoputer and admid right?
[05:14] <nightdemon666> rights?
[05:14] <BlackWeb> But ya everytime I try to make a partition on it then it gives me a error, Input / Output Error if I use parted or "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir" If I use mkfs.ext3,    Right now then I'm gonna try installing Windows 7 on it now
[05:15] <BlackWeb> Last time I tried it gave me a error also, Which I googled and someone said to try & replace SATA Cable so trying that now,
[05:16] <burfl_> Does anybody know?  This seems like it should be simple.  I need to stop my ubuntu machine from going to sleep due to inactivity
[05:16] <crizis> burfl_: system settings > power ?
[05:16] <BlackWeb> burfl, if you search Power
[05:16] <crizis> suspend when inactive for <don't suspend>
[05:16] <burfl_> crizis Yea I set those
[05:17] <burfl_> no change
[05:17] <burfl_> do I need to reboot to take effect?
[05:17] <nightdemon666> yeah blackweb, i suggest insatll to windows. reformat in windows, and format to RAW
[05:17] <crizis> not afaik.. could at least try logout/login but dno
[05:17] <nightdemon666> then install to ubutnu, and run gparted and format to what ever you want
[05:18] <nightdemon666> still looking one...
[05:18] <jstrong1> Would anyone happen to know why adding the following line to my sources.list is not working for Ubuntu 10.04? deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ lucid main
[05:18] <BlackWeb> alright, ya the crazy thing is i built another server, Same MOBD, & Hard Drive & No problems, But this ones been giving me hell
[05:19] <giiker> nightdemon666: ok, I just copied a file of 200 MB to my truecrypt partition and there is no takeup of space
[05:19] <jstrong1> According to the postgres docs that's what it should look like, but I get: W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:4800:7903:1::133 80]
[05:19] <nightdemon666> so, file size doesnt grow.. good to know giiker. thanks :)
[05:20] <nightdemon666> means that server is down jstrong
[05:21] <jstrong1> what happens is that the url is: http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/lucid-pgdg/
[05:21] <jstrong1> so they're using a non-standard format.
[05:22] <giiker> nightdemon666: not so fast, though there is some take up of space at the start of the encryption
[05:24] <burfl_> crizis, thanks.. I think the problem was actually faulty wiring.  It just powered off very suddenly while I was watching it.  When powered back up there were "lines" scanning down the monitor.  I plugged both into a different outlet and it seems to be okay atm
[05:24] <crizis> :O
[05:24] <burfl_> maybe a bad breaker.. who knows
[05:25] <nightdemon666> so, ONE i found a way to kinda do it, and you may tweak you your liking... run cmmand    watch --differences dmesg | tail
[05:25] <giiker> nightdemon666: I see about 187 MB used before adding/creating any files or folders, they must be related to keys or parts of truecrypt for the encryption to take place
[05:26] <giiker> nightdemon666: after that i did not see any increase :-)
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> SELinux is preventing wine-preloader from mmap_zero access on the memprotect .
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> *****  Plugin mmap_zero (53.1 confidence) suggests  **************************
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> If you do not think wine-preloader should need to mmap low memory in the kernel.
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> Then you may be under attack by a hacker, this is a very dangerous access.
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> Do
[05:26] <FloodBot1> tuxnguyendlk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <tuxnguyendlk> contact your security administrator and report this issue.
[05:26] <nightdemon666> i have a t4b drive so more consumption was a concern. thank you giiker. it was bad enough it took over 200GB away just to format it ext4! :(
[05:27] <maxkollide> Hi everyone. So... I have an intermittent problem where my laptop freezes up randomly. I haven't filed a bug report because I wouldn't know what to put, but... This time, it locked up and I can still ssh into the box! This doesn't usually happen (usually networking goes down with the system too) so I was windering if there was anything I might be able to do to check out what's causing the hangs.
[05:27] <nightdemon666> um run dmesg when ytou ssh into the box
[05:28] <giiker> nightdemon666: you must have either huge video files or you have much more data than me, I haven't reached the 4 TB size yet :-)
[05:28] <nightdemon666> first guess was good :]
[05:28] <nightdemon666> lol
[05:29] <giiker> nightdemon666: you know you can access your video files ( i don't know if encrypted though) if you change your bs?
[05:29] <giiker> nightdemon666:  I menat, you know you can access your video files faster ( i don't know if encrypted though) if you change your bs?
[05:29] <nightdemon666> i chopped it up into two back up drives too. 2tb for videos, 1.5 for photoback up for my wifes photography and .5 for other back up :)
[05:30] <nightdemon666> bs?
[05:30] <nightdemon666> sorry, dont know what bs means please explaine
[05:30] <maxkollide> *sigh* never mind I guess. Networking just went down and I didn't have time to run anything.
[05:30] <maxkollide> I really would like to find out what's causing the crashing though.
[05:30] <giiker> nightdemon666: byte size
[05:30] <nightdemon666> maxkollide, couldnt you also ctrl+alt+F1 into vurtual terminal?
[05:31] <maxkollide> Nope, whole systems down.
[05:31] <nightdemon666> hmm, not sure about that one giiker
[05:31] <maxkollide> Screen freezes, mouse and keyboard unresponsive
[05:31] <nightdemon666> that may take some troble shooting during formating correct?
[05:32] <nightdemon666> ok, maxkollide, do you hard shutdown or other???
[05:32] <maxkollide> I usually just hard shutdown. I pull the battery on it.
[05:32] <nightdemon666> sadface :(
[05:32] <maxkollide> There's like no other way to get it to close.
[05:33] <nightdemon666> you really should perform alt+print screen key, then press while holding the other two REISUB
[05:33] <nightdemon666> thats safer on hard drive and OS IMO
[05:33] <maxkollide> Wait, what?
[05:33] <maxkollide> Go over that again?
[05:33] <nightdemon666> i almost NEVER hard shut down if i dont have to
[05:34] <maxkollide> Alt and print screen?
[05:34] <manolos> hi. how can i see in which partion grub2 is installed?
[05:34] <nightdemon666> hold down alt+prt scr keys at the same time... while holding those two, press REISUB one second apart form each other... i wan tot see if the kernal is still alive
[05:34] <manolos> no. my mistake. in which hard drive i mean
[05:35] <maxkollide> What's REISUB?
[05:35] <nightdemon666> the kesy on your keyboard. R E I S U B
[05:35] <maxkollide> Or do you mean the letters REISUB?
[05:35] <maxkollide> Oh
[05:35] <maxkollide> Okay
[05:36] <nightdemon666> alt+prt scr
[05:36] <nightdemon666> then
[05:36] <nightdemon666> R E I S U B
[05:36] <nightdemon666> one after the other one second part :)
[05:36] <FloodBot1> nightdemon666: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <maxkollide> I'll try that next time... I can probably get it to crash again soon lol
[05:36] <nightdemon666> you learne d anew trick ;)
[05:36] <giiker> nightdemon666: when you format your drives, i did this on Winblows though, You can choose the zise of your cluster, since video files are larger in size, the larger the cluster will allowed for faster access to the video file, instead of accessing different cluster all over the HD
[05:36] <giiker> nightdemon666: if it is just for archiving though, default size it is ok
[05:37] <maxkollide> So if I might ask, what does this magic REISUB thing do?
[05:38] <nightdemon666> that may be benefical giiker.. i have it set up as sftp access and smb access to read only for all but my admin user. may improve access speed :) i think i read about that on the webs using gparted to adjust the byte size or somehting like that
[05:39] <nightdemon666> each letter stands for a command invoked by the kernal (if its still alive after crash) and soft reboots your computer forcefully and clean. better than hard shut down maxkollide
[05:40] <maxkollide> Interesting
[05:40] <maxkollide> Ok
[05:41] <nightdemon666> maxkollide, if you are able to perform that command ten the kernal is still running and thats good news! at least for your hard drive and your OS. now, the next thing to do is when you reboot back in, go through your dmesg logs
[05:41] <giiker> nightdemon666: yeah you can find more info about cluster size increase in video forums...
[05:41] <duckx0r> Can anyone tell me if there's anything wrong with this query? http://pastebin.com/ZT1CurRL I'm getting "Unknown column 'changes.conf_num' in 'on clause'" even though this column does exist.
[05:41] <nightdemon666> ls /var/log/ | grep dmesg
[05:42] <nightdemon666> then you can all your dmesg logs and go through them one by one. cat /var/log/dmesg.0
[05:43] <nightdemon666> you can also look up specifics like key words "error" or "fail" these words hopefully giving you the clue on whats causing the fail.. which coud be a bazillion things. try cat /var/log/dmesg.0 | grep fail or error or Fail or Error... caps to matter ot grep program
[05:45] <nightdemon666> giiker, the video forums would guld me to a relative number, or tell me how to figure that on my own? too bad i already exeeced my disk space beyond flushing back to other drives to format the 4tb again :P
[05:46] <giiker> nightdemon666: thats where i got this info from, some of those guys are into HDD optimization. look it up
[05:46] <giiker> night night everyone
[05:47] <nightdemon666> laterz giiker
[05:47] <maxkollide> Okay so... My dmesg.0 doesn't look like it has anything interesting in it.
[05:48] <maxkollide> Closest I've even got to anything "interesting" is a message that days "init: failsafe main process (897) killed by TERM signal"
[05:49] <ninja-hattori> hello any solution for partitions shown twice in thunar on xubuntu quantal?
[05:49] <maxkollide> I don't know what it means but it was the most interesting message matched by Fail or fail
[05:49] <nightdemon666> anything pertaining to the fail "should" be captured in that file... suckage.. thought that might lead you to the root cause...
[05:52] <nightdemon666> you can ssh from another machine see if you can run watch --differences dmesg | tail. this way you may catch it in the act
[05:53] <AndChat-732081> Maybe I can still track it down if I can ssh into the system after it goes down again. It's only a matter of time before it crashes again.
[05:53] <GnomeNostalgia> is there an uubuntu remix that uses the MATE desktop (I don't want Mint or the like, I want someting that look more like 10.04)
[05:53] <nightdemon666> ah! your name changed!
[05:54] <nightdemon666> AndChat, what kind of machine is this?
[05:54] <panorain> Tex_Nick hi
[05:54] <nightdemon666> desktop?
[05:57] <xangua> GnomeNostalgia: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[05:57] <GnomeNostalgia> [16:53] <GnomeNostalgia> is there an uubuntu remix that uses the MATE desktop (I don't want Mint or the like, I want someting that look more like 10.04)
[05:57] <GnomeNostalgia> ive tried this and the problem is that the unity apps and conf files gets mixed up with the mate ones
[05:57] <xangua> for anything else, you are on your own and of course mate is nor supported here ;)
[05:58] <xangua> GnomeNostalgia: then you should ask help for the ones who maintain that ppa /mate , tried mint channel¿
[05:59] <Taev> how do I get out of Unity and into KDE or gnome
[05:59] <xangua> Taev: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  , to install kde
[06:00] <Taev> how do i get a terminal in this mess?
[06:00] <GnomeNostalgia> xaguna:I hate mint and i hate gnome-fallback as well
[06:00] <Taev> nm
[06:00] <xangua> GnomeNostalgia: you can hate all and everyone and what will change nothing ;)
[06:01] <uiuiui32> Hi. I am trying to configure Ubuntu 12.10 as a VM host using kvm. But when I do a virsh qemu://system list, I get a cacert.pem not found error.
[06:01] <uiuiui32> How can I resolve this? Can someone please help?
[06:01] <jp> hi
[06:01] <Guest12042> hi
[06:02] <Guest12042> ko
[06:03] <panorain> hello
[06:04] <GnomeNostalgia> im going to the #mate channel
[06:06] <LordBidoof> Hello
[06:06] <LordBidoof> Damn you UEFI!!
[06:06] <panorain> I am a noob
[06:07] <LordBidoof> panorain:me too
[06:07] <LordBidoof> what is worse noob's can't get UEFI working
[06:07] <LordBidoof> :(
[06:07] <panorain> I have Slitaz with psk wireless to the left
[06:08] <panorain> LordBidoof I don't know UEFI I will be quiet
[06:10] <LordBidoof> panorain: UEFI makes installing ubuntu/other linux difficult on new computers
[06:11] <panorain> LordBidoof is UEFI a filesyatem partition?
[06:11] <SwedeMike> panorain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uefi
[06:11] <panorain> SwedeMike thank you
[06:14] <lewowpard> hi my thunar on xubuntu 12.10 is showing partitions twice, how can i hide them? tanhk you.
[06:19] <snodo> hi, my ssh works from anywhere except when using my university Internet any ideas why this might be?
[06:20] <ttoti> Firewall
[06:20] <SwedeMike> snodo: try using tcptraceroute <host> 22 when it doesn't work and see where it stops.
[06:20] <ttoti> Firewall for schools usually block the port. Happens to me as well
[06:21] <snodo> swedemike: sure ill will try that, tmrw not at uni at the moment, they have solaris servers, i guess its some kinds of firewall.
[06:21] <snodo> *kind
[06:22] <one> Ubuntu: What is the command line argument to update dmesg | tail at regular intervals?
[06:22] <Nimble> watch
[06:23] <Nimble> watch "dmesg | tail"
[06:23] <SwedeMike> one: or "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog" (or whatever log you want to look at)
[06:29] <lewowpard> seems no ones using xubuntu here. very well then i wont ask anything evar
[06:29] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, i'm on xubuntu.  ask
[06:29] <panorain> lewowpard what is your question
[06:30] <lewowpard> okay. my thunar on xubuntu 12.10 is showing partitions twice, how can i hide them? thank you.
[06:31] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, settings > desktop > icons ...
[06:33] <lewowpard> i already unchecked removable devices but partition duplicates keep showing up.
[06:33] <one> thanks guys
[06:35] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, unclick all expect home and trash ?
[06:38] <subcool> histo, you around?
[06:39] <lewowpard> cfhowlett: thanks, did that too but still didn't help
[06:45] <one> Ubuntu: How do I download source as unprivldg user? Using apt-get source "pkg" tries to unpack it and asks for dpkg-dev.
[06:45] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, sorry, IDK what to say.  works fine for me ...
[06:46] <SuperLag> Any of you guys use Nvidia Quadro cards in your Ubuntu boxen?
[06:52] <lewowpard> cfhowlett: screenshot: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dd3c2e07.html again thank you.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, suggest you use the ubuntu screenshot tool ... the one you sent wants me to download an .exe file.  I think not ...
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !paste
[06:54] <alainus> i find that ubuntu runs rather slow on an intel i7-3770k + 4gb ram, even crashing often... is this normal or could it be some configuration problem? i'm thinking about switching to lubuntu but i want to rule that out first
[06:54] <alainus> crashes are not regular though
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> alainus: got the right drivers for gpus/pci cards/other peripherals?
[06:58] <lewowpard> cfhowlett: sorry. http://imagebin.org/249024
[07:01] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, try killing all icon desktop display options ...
[07:03] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, also, is this a wubi/windows installation or ... ?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> lewowpard, disregard the icon settings .. bad advice from me ...
[07:04] <Syria> could someone please tell me how can I completly remove phpmyadmin and SQL ! after deleting the users from phpmyadmin by accedent I cannot log in anymore!
[07:04] <cctest> join #matlab
[07:05] <lewowpard> cfhowlett: never mind you've been very helpful. thank you sir. gtg bye.
[07:06] <thoonai> Syria: normally apt-get purge
[07:07] <thoonai> and then the packet name
[07:07] <cfhowlett> Syria, apt-get remove --purge
[07:09] <Syria> thoonai:  cfhowlett  I am getting a message telling a lot of stuff starts with "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)   " I have deleted all the users by accedent and this is why I want to remove it and re-installl it from the scratch.
[07:09] <thoonai> cfhowlett: not apt-get purge?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> thoonai, same outcome, different command sequence ... should kill the program and remove all config files
[07:10] <cfhowlett> Syria, sorry, beyond that kind of error is over my head.
[07:10] <c|oneman> heh, my buddy's at it again... left himself a backdoor to login as root
[07:13] <jony> I need the best IP scanner software, please help
[07:14] <cfhowlett> !best|jony
[07:18] <kalenjohnson> Just wiped my main drive tonight. Windows is officially gone. SSD is 100% Ubuntu
[07:18] <kalenjohnson> feels oh so good
[07:20] <tjbenator> Nice!
[07:20] <IzzoDizzo> nice
[07:20] <subcool> whats the command view all partitions, lvm and regular
[07:20] <cfhowlett> kalenjohnson, nothing like a squeaky clean install
[07:20] <IzzoDizzo> wish i could do the same on my mbp :)
[07:20] <tjbenator> I just bought an SSD for my laptop. No windows now :D
[07:20] <jony> I need an IP scanner software, please help
[07:20] <IzzoDizzo> can' t run ubuntu on my mbp :X
[07:20] <IzzoDizzo> jony, nmap
[07:21] <tjbenator> lol
[07:21] <kalenjohnson> IzzoDizzo, why not?
[07:21] <jony> IzzoDizzo, it has GUI?
[07:21] <kalenjohnson> tjbenator, SSD's are awesome, one of the best upgrades I've made on a computer
[07:21] <IzzoDizzo> well i can, but the nouveau drivers randomly freeze xwindows, and nvidia drivers just give a black screen
[07:21] <IzzoDizzo> jony, no
[07:21] <jony> IzzoDizzo, I need something with GUI
[07:21] <kalenjohnson> IzzoDizzo, that sucks. Do you have one with the Retina display?
[07:21] <kalenjohnson> I hate saying Retina display...
[07:22] <IzzoDizzo> nope. not a retina
[07:22] <IzzoDizzo> 2010 model, with a geforce 330m
[07:22] <IzzoDizzo> think it might be because of EFI
[07:22] <Ario> Hello. I am trying to get Ubunto, and was wondering if I will lose all my Programs and Documents switching from Win 7
[07:22] <tjbenator> kalenjohnson, totally agree, makes a world of difference
[07:22] <kalenjohnson> huh, kind of strange
[07:22] <IzzoDizzo> but i can't do a normal bios install, as i removed the superdrive to put in an extra hd
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> and apple doesnt like installing from usb
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> without EFI
[07:23] <kalenjohnson> IzzoDizzo, I assume you installed the 64-bit version
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> yup
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> tried a few now
[07:23] <kalenjohnson> that's too bad
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> as soon as i install nvidia-current, experimental or bumblebee and reboot, screen goes black
[07:23] <kalenjohnson> I dunno, maybe if you can get a hold of an external DVD drive
[07:23] <IzzoDizzo> backlight stays on tho
[07:24] <IzzoDizzo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093599
[07:24] <IzzoDizzo> this guy has the same problems
[07:24] <Ario> I guess I must be in the wrong channel
[07:24] <IzzoDizzo> ario ?
[07:24] <IzzoDizzo> ario, you can do a dual boot setup
[07:25] <kalenjohnson> Ario, how do you know someone isn't writing a response right now?
[07:25] <IzzoDizzo> kalenjohnson, rocking ubuntu on my desktop tho :)
[07:25] <kalenjohnson> IzzoDizzo, You'd have to be to be hanging out in here ;)
[07:25] <Guest56745> how to change color on irssi?
[07:26] <IzzoDizzo> kalenjohnson, not without errors tho :) but i'll manage to fix them later
[07:26] <Ario> I have not done IRC since early 90's. sorry for being slow,
[07:26] <IzzoDizzo> Ario, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[07:26] <foo357> Hello, I've installed a particular software library / tool from source due to licensing issues. The thing is that I now need to rebuild and reinstall this software. It depends on some libraries (which will not be changed in any way) and some higher-level software depends on this library which I'm goign to reinstall.
[07:27] <kalenjohnson> IzzoDizzo, Guess I should feel lucky, I can install Ubuntu 12.10 without a hitch on my work laptop. nvidia 560m
[07:27] <IzzoDizzo> yeah, i'm bothered my boss for a windows based laptop :) as this is 3 years old anyway
[07:27] <Ario> So when I reboot using the memory stick, just do Duel Boot?
[07:27] <foo357> So my question is what do I need to do to ensure that this reinstallation is correctly carried out?
[07:28] <kalenjohnson> Ario, when you go to install it, you can have the option to set up your partitions, or you can have Ubuntu install it alongside Windows
[07:28] <IzzoDizzo> ario, read that page please, you'll have to resize harddisks etc, unless you are just booting a live usb and not intend on installing it to hd
[07:28] <IzzoDizzo> foo357, just do a ./configure or we the tool needs
[07:28] <IzzoDizzo> and it'll tell you :)
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Ario, read, research then choose.  sounds like you want to keep windows.  Dual boot is my recommendation.
[07:29] <foo357> IzzoDizzo: yes it's a conventional ./confidure && make && make install && (ldconfig ?)
[07:29] <IzzoDizzo> yup
[07:29] <IzzoDizzo> if it fails on dependencies it'll tell you
[07:30] <Ario> After the last security Update from Windows, my Computer is super Lagging, takes 30 Minutes to Start-up. I am wanting to tell Bill Gates what I think of Windows and leave it behind for good. Just afraid of Major Imcompatability Issues.
[07:30] <IzzoDizzo> Ario, depends on what software you use/need
[07:30] <Ario> I was just wondering if I do Duel Boot, can I use my current installed Programs to see if they are Compatable?
[07:31] <IzzoDizzo> you can't ario
[07:31] <cfhowlett> Ario, such as ???
[07:31] <kalenjohnson> I don't now what that means
[07:31] <IzzoDizzo> Ario, some might work with wine, but you'll have to install them again
[07:31] <kalenjohnson> I know Firefox, Thunderbird, and Chrome work :)
[07:31] <Ario> I have Office 2010, Firefox, Sims 2 and 3 and World of Warcraft  :)
[07:31] <IzzoDizzo> heh
[07:32] <cfhowlett> ario libreoffice is the linux equivalent to MS Office ...
[07:32] <IzzoDizzo> office 2010 works on wine, but yuo can try openoffice of libreoffice
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !wine|ario FF: yes, sims and WOW?  see wine
[07:32] <rahul01> Hi, how can i set ubuntu when i start computer, so it will not ask for password on login
[07:32] <Ario> I do have Open Office as well.  I keep forgetting I downloaded it
[07:33] <IzzoDizzo> Neutron01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[07:33] <Neutron01> IzzoDizzo thank you
[07:35] <Ario> One last question, once I install Ubuntu. Will I be able to Copy files from the Windows Side to the Ubunto Side for re-Installing on Ubuntu, or will I have to save them on Disk/USB first?
[07:35] <IzzoDizzo> depends if you replace windows or not
[07:35] <SuperLag> Ario: WinSCP.
[07:35] <IzzoDizzo> SuperLag, he's doing it on the same machine :)
[07:35] <IzzoDizzo> ario: have you ever tried ubuntu ?
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Ario, yes you can copy/paste from windows to ubuntu
[07:35] <SuperLag> IzzoDizzo: if he sets up a dual boot, it'll work
[07:35] <Ario> Same Machine,  1 HD a 1TB HD
[07:35] <SuperLag> oh... duh
[07:35] <SuperLag> never mind
[07:36] <SuperLag> well... no
[07:36] <SuperLag> it'll work
[07:36] <Nimble> Ario: yes, but windows applications don't run natively on ubuntu
[07:36] <SuperLag> he can mount the Windows partition
[07:36] <Nimble> you'll have to reinstall them using wine
[07:36] <Nimble> which is a compatibility layer for linux
[07:36] <Ario> I just put Ubuntu on a Memory Stick and about to Restart and Install
[07:36] <SuperLag> wine makes me whinme
[07:36] <SuperLag> bah
[07:36] <SuperLag> I can't type
[07:36] <SuperLag> wine makes me whine!!
[07:36] <IzzoDizzo> ario, might be better to try ubuntu in like virtualbox first
[07:37] <kalenjohnson> SuperLag, want some cheese with your whine?
[07:37] <SuperLag> good advice
[07:37] <one> Ario: Anything is possible, but it is a good idea to make backups
[07:37] <SuperLag> kalenjohnson: ;)
[07:37] <Ario> That is beyond my knowledge  :(
[07:37] <kalenjohnson> or he can try it off the USB/DVD
[07:37] <kalenjohnson> LiveCD! That's the word
[07:37] <SuperLag> Nvidia Quadro. Do you guys have any Quadro cards working with Ubuntu? I see very old posts about it not working, but these are from 5+ years ago
[07:38] <SuperLag> Ario: then learn, my friend
[07:38] <Ario> I think I will Test drive the 64Bit from the USB, if I like, then install Duel Boot. if I can transfer. then Overwrite Windows. Dose this sound too Crazy?
[07:38] <SuperLag> Ario: Linux is hard, first starting out... but it's so nice when you get comfortable with it
[07:38] <Nimble> that sounds like a good plan Ario
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Ario, stop
[07:38] <kalenjohnson> SuperLag, I don't have a Quadro card, but I would think they would work if the Nvidia drivers say the card is supported
[07:38] <Nimble> try it using the live USB
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Ario, if you are only testing, use Virtualbox.
[07:39] <Nimble> he has a usb, why can't he try live usb?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Ario, then proceed as you described
[07:39] <Ario> I have no Idea what Virtual Box is  :)
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Ario, "fake" computer.  you install it to windows.  then you install ubuntu inside of that.
[07:39] <plastikspork> Ario:  only the best program EVER!
[07:39] <kalenjohnson> it really is...
[07:40] <SuperLag> virtualization is awesome
[07:40] <tekgeek> my thumb drive has 16 different versions of linux and  a bunch of antivirus programs
[07:40] <plastikspork> super awesome!
[07:40]  * SuperLag isn't a vbox fan though
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Ario, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[07:40] <Ario> I have several Virtual Drives using Daemon Tools. is that what you mean?
[07:40] <tata_> I change video-card, do I must reinstall OS  Ubuntu for better work?
[07:40] <moondoggy> Anyone know how to tell if anacron is running?
[07:40] <SuperLag> tata_: no, you don't have to reinstall
[07:40] <kalenjohnson> Ario, sort of, except instead of virtualizing a DVD, you virtualize an entire operating system
[07:40] <cfhowlett> tata_, no but you do need to install and configure the new card
[07:41] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: only if modules don't load from the kernel, right?
[07:41] <tata_> ok, what is 1. step?
[07:41] <Ario> OK.Looking into it now.  Thank You for your Help.  I think I may be a New "Regular" here  :)
[07:41] <cfhowlett> ario suggest you look at some youtube videos regarding: ubuntu virtualbox
[07:41] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, yes
[07:41] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: depeding on what card he put in the kernel may already have drivers for it
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Ario, best of luck
[07:42] <Ario> Thank you all very much
[07:42] <one> Ubuntu: How do I download source as unprivldg user? Using apt-get  source "pkg" tries to unpack it and asks for dpkg-dev.
[07:42] <one> Ubuntu: How do I download source as unprivldg user? Using apt-get  source "pkg" tries to unpack it and asks for dpkg-dev.
[07:42] <SuperLag> tata_: not trying to interrupt... but I'd just reboot first, and see how it works with the new video card in it
[07:42] <one> Ubuntu: How do I download source as unprivldg user? Using apt-get  source "pkg" tries to unpack it and asks for dpkg-dev.
[07:42] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, agreed.  I prefer to do an actual installation and confiiguration to avoid the "default" kernel settings
[07:42] <SuperLag> uh oh :)
[07:42] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: what's wrong with the kernel defaults?
[07:43] <tata_> new card work with low quality letter
[07:43] <passionke> hi, how can I install sun-java6-jdk on ubuntu 11.10 server
[07:43] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, didn't say "wrong" but I've found that full performance can best be gained from actually configuring the new hardware.  YMMV
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !java|passionke,
[07:44] <moondoggy> Or... can someone tell me if I need to call anacron using the crontab?
[07:46] <rsparks> So, I have no idea what I'm doing really, but I have a switch I need to connect to with a serial cable. I have a little ARM based thing with a serial connector hooked up to it now, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I have no idea how to even try to establish a connection
[07:46] <IzzoDizzo> rsparks,what little arm based thing
[07:47] <rsparks> Efika MX
[07:47] <rsparks> it's the jtag/serial board that ships with it that I'm using it to connect to my Baystack 450-24T
[07:48] <Nimble> rsparks, what do you need to do with it?
[07:48] <Nimble> you can send raw data with python pretty easily
[07:48] <Nimble> if you know what you need to send
[07:48] <IzzoDizzo> what is installed on the efika rsparks
[07:48] <rsparks> Nimble, I'm not entirely sure what I need to do. All I know is for whatever reason I can't get more than about 80kb/s to go over its 100mbit/s ports.
[07:49] <rsparks> I want to see if it has any error messages or anything at all
[07:49] <Nimble> you need to check what baud rate you have the device set to
[07:49] <Nimble> it's pretty device-dependent
[07:49] <Nimble> let me read up on the efika mx real quick
[07:50] <rsparks> I'm looking at its documenation, but it kind of assumes one is using windows to access the switch
[07:51] <Nimble> do you have a link?
[07:51] <IzzoDizzo> http://www.genesi-tech.com/products/efika
[07:51] <rsparks> um, on another computer. lemme see if I can get it to this machine
[07:52] <rsparks> and it's an Efika MX, not an Efika, IzzoDizzo (I didn't open the link but I can guess it's reference the old PPC Efika instead of the ARM Efika MX)
[07:52] <Nimble> rsparks, is the device that IzzoDizzo linked the right one?
[07:52] <Nimble> nope, the one he linked is ARM
[07:52] <rsparks> That is the right one
[07:52] <tuxnguyendlk> @@
[07:53] <Nimble> k
[07:53] <Jordan_U> rsparks: Is this a CISCO switch?
[07:53] <rsparks> It's a Nortel Baystack 450-24T
[07:53] <tuxnguyendlk> quit
[07:55] <Jordan_U> rsparks: Have you tried anything (like running minicom) yet to connect?
[07:57] <rsparks> Jordan_U, the problem is... I know 0 about serial connection. I don't know what minicom is.
[07:58] <rsparks> Also, are the 10.10 repos down? the Efika MX is stuck on 10.10, and I can't seem to get any packages on it
[07:58] <IzzoDizzo> try typing minicom :)
[07:58] <rsparks> minicom gave a command not found
[08:00] <Jordan_U> rsparks: sudo apt-get install minicom
[08:02] <rsparks> Jordan_U, and here I find another problem, I guess the repos to 10.10's arm port are gone. can't install any software
[08:02] <Jordan_U> rsparks: Ubuntu 10.10 has been EOL for a while.
[08:02] <Ario> OK, I'm back. I was wondering if anyone knows if Ubuntu works on a Triple Monitor System?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> rsparks: Do you not have any other computer that you can connect to the switch from?
[08:02] <Taev> under Configuring Apt-build its asking for my Architecture
[08:02] <rsparks> Genesi never fixed 11.x or 12.x on it, so 10.10 is the latest version of ubuntu supported. I never got the community made debian arm-hf images to work for some reason
[08:02] <Taev> I have a AMD 64 bit CPU
[08:03] <IzzoDizzo> ario, eyefinity?
[08:03] <Taev> what should I put?
[08:03] <Tex_Nick> Ario : yes it does
[08:03] <Ario> I have that.
[08:04] <Ario> Thank Ou Tex-Nick
[08:04] <rsparks> Jordan_U, I have I believe 2 computers with serial, an old x86 that doesn't have PAE, and a Sun Ultra 5. I don't actually have a serial cable, the efika's serial port just happens to be the opposite gender of the switch so just fits in
[08:04] <Ario> you even
[08:05] <Tex_Nick> Ario: you're welcome :)
[08:06] <Taev> I Have an AMD Athlon X2, what architecture should i select for configuring apt-build?
[08:06] <Taev> Athlon64?
[08:06] <nearst> sup. hi ppl
[08:06] <Jordan_U> rsparks: If you have screen installed you can also use "screen /dev/ttyS#", but since you're using an unnofficial derivative based on an EOL release of Ubuntu it's doubly offtopic here. Please join ##linux to continue there.
[08:06] <Taev> athlon-fx?
[08:06] <rsparks> Hmmm, but, I have a spare jtag/serial board for the efika MX, and I think another female connector that doesn't go to anything lying around, and I'm handy with a soldering iron
[08:08] <Ario> This is scary and exciting all at one time, who knew that a 53 yo former Marine can have so much fun  :)
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> Ario : i'm a 66 year old Ranger ... i'll forgive you for that though ;-) Semper Fidelis Man
[08:11] <Ario> LOL. 53 YO Recon Marine  :)  Worked with many a Ranger in my Day
[08:16] <PlastikSpork> I am trying to make my mounted network drives show up under "Network" in the left pane in Nautilus.
[08:16] <PlastikSpork> currently they show up under "Computer"
[08:17] <zetheroo> how does one start up cron? I did '/etc/init.d/crond start' but just get a 'No such file or directory' result
[08:18] <PlastikSpork> zetheroo did you try it with sudo?
[08:18] <zetheroo> PlastikSpork: I am logged in as root
[08:19] <PlastikSpork> well that answers that question
[08:21] <PlastikSpork> zetheroo try cron instead of crond
[08:21] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  hope you understand the dangers of that ?
[08:22] <_irenicus09>  hi anyone knows how to make my drives get recognised & automount in any filemanager? I'm on openbox
[08:23] <PlastikSpork> _irenicus09:  network drives or local drives?
[08:23] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: well we have always accessed all our Debian servers directly as root ... so having a few Ubuntu servers where we have to constantly be doing 'sudo' to get anything done is just too much of a pain. ;)
[08:24] <zetheroo> ok, if I do 'service cron start' I get 'start: Job is already running: cron'
[08:24] <zetheroo> but if I do 'ps -A | grep cron' I get '1457 ?        00:00:02 cron' with 'cron' being in red
[08:25] <IzzoDizzo> what are you trying to do zetheroo
[08:26] <zetheroo> IzzoDizzo: I setup a number of cronjobs with crontab -e ... these jobs were supposed to run over the weekend and they did not
[08:26] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  ahhh ok i understand ... just like to warn people who are new to the X world ... sounds like you know what you're doing though ;-)
[08:26] <IzzoDizzo> zetheroo: are you seeing cron entries in the log?
[08:26] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: well, always learning ... but just so you know all my home machines run Ubuntu and none of them are used by root access ;)
[08:27] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: local drives
[08:27] <zetheroo> IzzoDizzo: I cannot see any cron log in /var/log/
[08:27] <IzzoDizzo> try syslog
[08:28] <PlastikSpork> _irenicus09 this is a VM?
[08:28] <Art1> <--- has had his head in the sand untill last night, finally installed ubuntu and is now having trouble... need some help please :)
[08:29] <zetheroo>  IzzoDizzo: this is what syslog looks like ...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5587306/
[08:31] <IzzoDizzo> looks like its running cron
[08:31] <IzzoDizzo> cron.hourly
[08:31] <IzzoDizzo> zetheroo, can i see your cronjobs?
[08:31] <zetheroo>  IzzoDizzo: ok
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Art1: The first step toward getting help is to ask a question :)
[08:31] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: No its not a VM
[08:31] <Art1> waiting my turn is all :)
[08:32] <IzzoDizzo> art1, just ask :)
[08:32] <Masshuu> I want to get the contents from either a running screen or tmux. Issue is both require a pty to attach to them and theres not one avalable programicly. Any tips?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Art1: There is no line. People just ask question and if someone can answer it they do. There are sometimes 20 conversations going on at the same time here :)
[08:33] <Art1> installed 12.04 last night, let it update when I went to work this afternoon.  when it restarted, it freezes on a black screen with a cursor at the top...
[08:33] <PlastikSpork> _irenicus09 dual boot?
[08:33] <zetheroo> IzzoDizzo: can I PM you the pastebin of the cronjobs ?
[08:33] <Art1> fresh pure, pure install
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Art1: Do you see anything between the BIOS screens and the blinking cursor?
[08:34] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[08:34] <IzzoDizzo> zetheroo: sure
[08:34] <Art1> yeah... the splash screen comes up for a sec and a bunch of lines flash... then nothing
[08:35] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: why does it matter if I dual boot lol.
[08:36] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: the problem is I need 2 automount external/removable drives and none of them show up in my filemanager
[08:36] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: but I can see that they're there when I use fdisk -l
[08:36] <IzzoDizzo> art1, are you able to boot into recovery mode?
[08:37] <_irenicus09> and I don't wanna mount them manually which is a chore -.-"
[08:37] <Art1> nope... only way that I hav ebeen able to start up is by booting from the cd
[08:37] <PlastikSpork> _irenicus09 ahh ic... got confused usually local drives should show up automatically
[08:37] <_irenicus09> PlastikSpork: ya but its my fresh openbox install :|
[08:38] <dr_willis> openbox dosent have the automounter stuff..
[08:38] <dr_willis> its part of the gnome services i think.
[08:38] <dr_willis> so use some automounter service. if you arre making your own desktop.. or use fstab
[08:39] <PlastikSpork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[08:40] <Art1> I am able to get to the grub menu though... well timed key presses :)
[08:40] <dr_willis> tried the nomodeset option yet Art1 ?
[08:41] <Art1> not yet... reading up on it now though :)
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> Art1 : just for my personal knowledge ... what graphics are you running ?
[08:43] <Art1> ATI Radeon HD 6xxx
[08:43] <Art1> 6870
[08:44] <Tex_Nick> Art1 : ok thanks man ... i'm keeping a list ;-)
[08:44] <Art1> no prob :)
[08:44] <Art1> it's always good to keep a list of problem children :)
[08:45] <Tex_Nick> Art1: is that an APU or descrete card ?
[08:45] <Art1> umm...   ???
[08:45] <_irenicus09> dr_willis: do you know which gnomeservice can do automounting for me?
[08:45] <dr_willis> _irenicus09:  not really. it would pull iin quite a bit of gnome i imagine
[08:46] <dr_willis> install nautilus perhaps and it might pull it in.'
[08:46] <Tex_Nick> Art1 : a seperate graphics card ... or an AMD APU processor instead of a CPU ?
[08:46] <Art1> oh... seperate card
[08:46] <_irenicus09> dr_willis: actually I have nautilus installed atm :|
[08:46] <xubuntu925> What is the easiest way to set a python script to run on startup?
[08:47] <xubuntu925> Also, I run this (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=E7x8bczb) command to change screen resolution, but it changes back after reboot.
[08:47] <KevinLi> whois drussell
[08:48]  * ero-jiji dances a bit to entertain all the frustrated people
[08:48] <ero-jiji> morning all
[08:48] <drussell> KevinLi: Hi Kevin!
[08:52] <janos__> sziasztok
[08:52] <Art1> k, I"m going to go try this... I'll be back one way or the other to let ya'll know if it works or not :)
[08:52] <jonascj> Is it possible to adjust the blocksize / inode count during installation of ubuntu?
[08:57] <dr_willis> you can parrtion/format befor you start theinstaller. and just tell it the mountpoints
[08:57] <dr_willis> jonascj:  so thats a yes. ;)
[08:58] <jonascj> yes of course. I'll figure out if my vps provider will let me do that.
[08:58] <dr_willis> hmmm i dont think with a vps you really need to worry about it.. but ive only used one vps
[08:59] <fiz-> hello
[08:59] <Mojojojo> hello
[08:59] <jonascj> the problem with web apps are they huge amount of small files. One cakephp installation take up 5% of my inodes on my current filesystem setup
[08:59] <Madison> I just installed ubuntu, then updated and reboot the computer. Now the left bar is bright grey, the top bar is blank, and none of the icons are responding to clicks. Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r49wgi9j6k2vjxo/20130305_022820.jpg
[09:00] <fiz-> i can see that syslog is generating 7 backups of data for each day, how can i extend it? im not familliar which service might  be resposiblefor that
[09:00] <Mojojojo> i have a problem with ubuntu 12.10, after an update today when the comp restarted unity and entire gui system has disappeared, i have only the desktop wallpaper
[09:00] <fiz-> nothing found in logrotate
[09:00] <Mojojojo> here is a pastebin: paste.ubuntu.com/5587330/
[09:01] <dr_willis> Mojojojo:  as a test. make a new user. see  if the desktop works for them.  If it does work. then theres some user settings causing the issue.. it it dosent work for all users/new users.. theres a deeper issue going on.
[09:01] <Mojojojo> ok will try that
[09:01] <Mojojojo> thanks
[09:02] <fiz-> ok found it in logrotate.d
[09:02] <Mojojojo> how do i create new user in terminal? i have no gui
[09:02] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[09:03] <Mojojojo> haha ok thanks
[09:04] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... NO MAN ... lol   ờᴗớ
[09:05] <Mojojojo> ok bill gates has the same issue... no GUI
[09:05] <Kowalczyk> ofc bill gates had the same issue. he is not working with linux
[09:05] <Kowalczyk> :D
[09:05] <dr_willis> normal fix would be to reinstall your video card drivers.
[09:05] <Mojojojo> how do i restore the system to earlier state?
[09:06] <dr_willis> since they could be whats confused.
[09:06] <Mojojojo> ok how do i install nvidia drivers in terminal?
[09:06] <one> Watch out for Tyler Durdens video card drivers.
[09:06] <dr_willis> for me -   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:08] <Mojojojo> it says nvidia-current is already the newest version
[09:08] <Madison> Should I just try reinstalling, or?
[09:08] <Mojojojo> how do i restore the system to earlier state?
[09:09] <dr_willis> theres not really a way to restore to an earlier state
[09:09] <dr_willis> you could test with an older kernel.. see if it works there
[09:09] <Mojojojo> oh unlike windows then, cool
[09:09] <Mojojojo> so what next
[09:09] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[09:09] <dr_willis> try reinstalling the nvidia drivers....
[09:09] <spacemonkey> I'm here for Nvidia drivers too...
[09:09] <Ben64> Mojojojo: btw is it a laptop
[09:10] <Mojojojo> it says nvidia-current is already the newest version when i try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:10] <Ben64> Mojojojo: sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[09:10] <Mojojojo> no its a pc amd-64
[09:10] <Ben64> what video card
[09:10] <TakeItEZ> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:10] <spacemonkey> I tried to install Bumblebee to run my Optimus Nvidia card, but that didn't work
[09:10] <IzzoDizzo> mojojojo, what happens if you remove the nvidia drivers?
[09:10] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: no, mine is better!
[09:11] <Mojojojo> nvidia geforce 9800gt
[09:11] <spacemonkey> GeForce GT640M LE
[09:11] <Mojojojo> how do i remove the drivers?
[09:11] <Ben64> Mojojojo: removing the drivers won't get you the drivers :|
[09:11] <zAo^2_> Mojojojo: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current
[09:12] <spacemonkey> are the x-swat drivers more stable?
[09:12] <Ben64> spacemonkey: you need some bumblebee stuff or something
[09:13] <dr_willis> they are newer.. ;)
[09:13] <spacemonkey> Ben64: Yeah, I installed Bumblebee, but it didn't work
[09:13] <Ben64> spacemonkey: ok
[09:13] <hemangpatel> I go this error "libapache2-mod-php-5.3-zend-server : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.13-20ubuntu5.3 is to be installed"
[09:14] <zetheroo> sooo .... why is it that when I do "ps -A | grep cron" that the output is "18451 ?        00:00:00 cron" with "cron" being in red!?
[09:14] <Ben64> cause you grepped it
[09:14] <dr_willis> grep is seeing itself. ;)
[09:14] <Art1> grr... can someone send me that nomodeset website again?
[09:15] <Ben64> !nomodeset
[09:15] <Art1> want to make sure I'm doing it correctly :)
[09:15] <TakeItEZ> zetheroo: because *buntu sets some weird alias. grep --color=auto"
[09:15] <spacemonkey> Ben64: I got the error "change connectedmonitor setting in /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia"
[09:15] <Art1> thank you
[09:15] <TakeItEZ> zetheroo: "alias" in a terminal to check
[09:15] <apelles> hello. can someone help me please? what channel would i go to get help set up email server and irc server
[09:15] <Ben64> spacemonkey: you should see if theres any bumblebee support available
[09:15] <Mojojojo>  i tried sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[09:15] <Mojojojo> and it gives me errors
[09:15] <Ben64> ...which errors
[09:16] <spacemonkey> Ben64: Oh, I'm looking at the file now... "UseDisplayDevice" is set to none... that doesn't seem right
[09:16] <Mojojojo> unable to locate package errors, unable to locate package name  uname -r blah blah blah, couldn't find any package by regex 'uname -r blah blah
[09:16] <Ben64> then you typed it wrong
[09:16] <noxom> Hi all. how to move a local Web site localhost in its external ip?
[09:17] <Mojojojo> is uname supposed to be my real username?
[09:17] <noxom> i installed lamp
[09:17] <Ben64> no
[09:17] <zetheroo> TakeItEZ: does red mean there is something wrong with the process?
[09:17] <Tex_Nick> apelles : if you don't get an answer here, you might try #ubuntu-server
[09:17] <TakeItEZ> zetheroo: no it highlight the pattern you grepped for
[09:17] <apelles> thank you
[09:17] <Ben64> Mojojojo: notice the backticks aren't single quotes
[09:17] <Mojojojo> i'll try again
[09:17] <Ben64> `uname -r, not 'uname -r
[09:18] <ubuntu206> How do i run a python script on background after the startup?
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> backticks are evil
[09:18] <Mojojojo> what are backticks? O.O
[09:19] <Ben64> on top of the "Tab" key on US keyboards
[09:19] <Mojojojo> oh i see
[09:19] <Tex_Nick> Mojojojo:  the key to the left of the 1 key
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> $() is far better readable
[09:19] <Ben64> but less cool
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> i'm too old to be cool :)
configure your  web server listen on localip:port.
[09:20] <noxom> methus where?
[09:21] <Mojojojo> ok i tried that and i now get this error: command line option'g'[from -generic] is not known
[09:21] <Ben64> still typing it wrong lol
[09:21] <TakeItEZ> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:21] <Mojojojo> again?
[09:21] <Mojojojo> lol
[09:21] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: no!
[09:21] <Ben64> Mojojojo: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: then let him type "linux-headers-generic"
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> you see it just confuses him
[09:22] <Ben64> but its not always generic
[09:22] <Art1> don't know if this will help, but the last line that shows when it freezes is "[    12.067829] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdd] assuming drive cache: write through"
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: in this case it is
[09:22] <methus> noxom. what webserver are you using?
[09:22] <Ben64> my command works on every incarnation
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: if the one read/types it correct, yes
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> obviously he doesn't
[09:23] <Ben64> the straight $(uname -r) is what causes these problems
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: then let him type "linux-headers-generic"
[09:23] <Ben64> because the headers don't get updated and then nvidia breaks
[09:24] <Mojojojo> i already tried linux-headers-generic still errors
[09:24] <Mojojojo> ok i tried that and i now get this error: command line option'g'[from -generic] is not known
[09:24] <Ben64> what error
[09:24] <noxom> I installed the lamp. I just went into var /www and there is a file index. html A: When I write localhost it gives me the page
[09:24] <TakeItEZ> Mojojojo: no space before -generic
[09:24] <Ben64> ok fine, "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[09:26] <Mojojojo> ok installing now
[09:29] <Mojojojo> ok i tried that and i now get this error: command line option'g'[from -generic] is not known
[09:29] <Mojojojo> still
[09:29] <Ben64> you're doing something wrong, pastebin the contents of the terminal
[09:29] <Mojojojo> i already installed linux headers
[09:29] <Mojojojo> ok
[09:31] <Mojojojo> paste.ubuntu.com/5587401/
[09:31] <yarinse> hello, as I can extract the serial number of the volume of dvd from a terminal, what is the instruction?
[09:32] <DJones> yarinse: Do you mean the md5sum?
[09:32] <Ben64> Mojojojo: well you already did linux-headers-generic, so that was the whole point of that...
[09:32] <Mojojojo> so what do i do next?
[09:33] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install dkms
[09:34] <Numline1> Hello guys, I was recently wondering, if there's any all in one and easy to configure solution for mail server
[09:34] <ikonia> Numline1: postfix, exim ?
[09:34] <Numline1> I was using google apps, but as amount of domains on my server rises, it's no longer an option
[09:34] <Mojojojo> dkms is already the newest version it says dkms set to manually installed
[09:34] <Numline1> ikonia: I currently use Exim for outgoing mails, but it's quite hard to manage
[09:34] <yarinse> DJones: ehhh ??
[09:35] <Numline1> I was looking for something that already includes antispam, antivirus and possibly web UI for management
[09:35] <ikonia> Numline1: its very easy - it's clear text config files
[09:35] <ikonia> Numline1: if you struggle to manage exim, you're going to struggle to run anything
[09:35] <ikonia> Numline1: the features you want are nothing to do with a mail server - you'll need to bolt them on to anything you run
[09:35] <Ben64> Mojojojo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[09:35] <Mojojojo> ok
[09:35] <DJones> yarinse: What serial number are you trying to get from the dvd
[09:36] <Mojojojo> done
[09:36] <Ben64> any errors? did you see it build nvidia?
[09:36] <Numline1> ikonia: I know, that's why I was looking for all in one solution without putting packages together and configuring them
[09:36] <Mojojojo> no errors, it was done in a flash
[09:36] <Ben64> hmm : /
[09:36] <Numline1> ikonia: to be more clear, it doesnt have to be on my server, it can be standalone solution
[09:37] <Mojojojo> didn't see it reconfigure anything
[09:37] <Mojojojo> lol
[09:37] <Numline1> Something like exchange, but free
[09:37] <yarinse> DJones: Not did you. As I can extract the serial number of the volume of dvd from a terminal,
[09:37] <Mojojojo> can i do something to show you what was updated last then maybe you can see what caused this all?
[09:38] <Mojojojo> the system was perfect before today's update
[09:39] <Ben64> Mojojojo: whats in /var/lib/dkms ?
[09:39] <Mojojojo> how do i check that in terminal?
[09:39] <yarinse> DJones: F:\ to >dir the volume of unit F is 100222 the serial number of the volume: 335D-E47AF: \ to >dir the volume of unit F is 100222 the serial number of the volume: 335D-E47A
[09:39] <Ben64> Mojojojo: ls /var/lib/dkms
[09:40] <Mojojojo> it says: dkms_dbversion  nvidia_current
[09:41] <evelyette> hi
[09:41] <evelyette> does anybody know how to solve this: http://dpaste.com/1012831/
[09:41] <Mojojojo> earlier it also told me that compiz had crashed or something like that
[09:41] <Ben64> Mojojojo: then could you pastebin "find /var/lib/dkms/nvidia_current"
[09:41] <evelyette> dbus-deamon is running, I'm not sure why it's not picking it up
[09:42] <yarinse> DJones: is volume serial number of DVD p.e.:335D-E47AF. As is bar code
[09:42] <DJones> yarinse: I'm not sure how to get that
[09:42] <foo357> Should I have to uninstall ('make uninstall') a conventional ./configure && make && make install && (ldconfig ?) software before reinstalling?
[09:43] <Numline1> ikonia: anyway, I'll look into building this up on exim, thanks for help
[09:43] <zAo^2_> evelyette: are you member of the netdev group?
[09:43] <Numline1> It will be painful but hopefuly it will work :)
[09:43] <Mojojojo> no such file or directory
[09:43] <Mojojojo> :/
[09:44] <evelyette> zAo^: no
[09:44] <yarinse> In windows : command : promt:> dir /f
[09:45] <Ben64> Mojojojo: you typed stuff wrong again
[09:45] <zAo^2_> evelyette: Add yourself to the group and login again
[09:45] <Mojojojo> ok let me try again
[09:45] <evelyette> zAo^: how
[09:45] <yarinse> DJones: in command windows promt:> tree /f
[09:46] <hufu> haliho
[09:46] <Mojojojo> is there a space between find and /var
[09:46] <Mojojojo> ?
[09:46] <Ben64> yes
[09:47] <Mojojojo> ok then i typed it perfectly
[09:47] <hufu> hungary
[09:47] <zAo^2_> evelyette: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301414
[09:48] <Mojojojo> hmmmm does it mean i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:51] <Ben64> Mojojojo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall dkms
[09:52] <Mojojojo> done
[09:52] <Mojojojo> next?
[09:52] <Ben64> that should have built the driver
[09:52] <Mojojojo> do i need to restart?
[09:52] <Ben64> did you see it build stuff
[09:53] <Mojojojo> yes it did something in terminal
[09:53] <Ben64> well if it built it then yeah, you can reboot and gui would work
[09:53] <Mojojojo> let me try
[09:55] <Mojojojo> ok that worked, everything is back :)
[09:55] <Ben64> cool
[09:55] <Mojojojo> thanks a bunch ben64 that saves me a lot of reinstalling
[09:55] <Mojojojo> how do i backup the system so that i can restore in the fiture?
[09:55] <Ben64> !backup
[09:56] <one> Mojojojo: disks has an imager now
[09:56] <Mojojojo> ok will try those links
[09:57] <Mojojojo> thanks a lot guys :)
[09:57] <one> Mojojojo: boot from a liveCD and run disks and image it
[09:57] <Mojojojo> oh ok, cool
[09:57] <Mojojojo> thanks
[09:58] <kuuruku> so this channel is logged
[09:59] <DJones> !logs | kuuruku
[09:59] <sabzi> p
[10:00] <mark__> hello!
[10:00] <mark__> i'm stuck with apt-get
[10:00] <mark__> i cannot instal / update / remove /anything
[10:00] <mark__> apt-get prompts me to reinstall exim4-base
[10:01] <mark__> but this returns with an error from post-removal
[10:01] <evelyette> zAo^: it is in netdev group
[10:03] <mark__> did anyone have this problem or knows what should i do with it? :-)
[10:03] <mark__> any help will be much appreciated!
[10:04] <zAo^> evelyette, ok, it still doesnt work?
[10:04] <Tex_Nick> out of curosity ... will glxgears run on a non-3d graphics system ... i'm just wondering if that is fast sure check for 3d enabled graphics ?
[10:06] <vISaTO4> Does anyone know how to do 6.3, pricing with Black-Scholes formula ? http://imageshack.us/f/38/problem2222.png/
[10:06] <dr_willis> it will run.. slowly
[10:07] <Ben64> vISaTO4: uh, this isn't a homework help channel
[10:07] <vISaTO4> Where is one, then? :/
[10:07] <evelyette> zAo^: no it doesn't
[10:07] <Ben64> vISaTO4: no idea
[10:07] <DJones> !alis | vISaTO4
[10:07] <TakeItEZ> vISaTO4: ask your teacher
[10:09] <zAo^> evelyette, still the same messages? Did you relogin?
[10:09] <nearst> hi ppl
[10:14] <nearst> any idea why my flash mount with read-only option? try with mount -o rw /dev /mnt but not work
[10:14] <dr_willis> thats not a correct mount command line...
[10:14] <zAo^> nearst, what filesystem?
[10:14] <zAo^> and that ^^
[10:14] <dr_willis> ntfs.vfat may need uid/gid/umask options also
[10:14] <linuxist> neast, don't you need to do a "-o rw,remount" ?
[10:15] <linuxist> if it's already mounted
[10:15] <zAo^> sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
[10:15] <evelyette_> zAo^: any other ideas ?
[10:15] <kuuruku> what idea
[10:18] <nearst> zAo^, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ -t vfat .. mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdc1 read-write, is write-protected
[10:18] <dr_willis> now thats nteresting...
[10:18] <nearst> zAo^, /dev/sdc1 on /mnt type vfat (ro)
[10:18] <dr_willis> ive seen flash drives go 'bad' in such a way they become read only
[10:18] <Ben64> could have a physical switch for write protection
[10:18] <TakeItEZ> nearst: hardware ro-switch?
[10:19] <nearst> that flash is naked atm. no ro-switch im guess
[10:19] <nearst> sec, double check
[10:20] <belgianguy> is there a way to have different terminal instances have different backgrounds?
[10:20] <hero100> after update from 12.04 to 12.10, will all software be removed?
[10:20] <belgianguy> as to be able to discern them better (different systems I'm ssh'ed into)
[10:20] <belgianguy> hero100: no, it should still all be there
[10:21] <hero100> thank
[10:21] <Tex_Nick> belgianguy:  yes ... set up different profiles, then choose profile for each terminal
[10:21] <belgianguy> Tex_Nick: thanks, I'll look into it :)
[10:22] <nearst> hmm. no ro-switch . this is fun
[10:23] <Tex_Nick> belgianguy:  after saying that ... i'm not sure about backgrounds (as in image) however you can set profiles for background & foregroung colors
[10:24] <belgianguy> Tex_Nick: could you point me in a general direction, my Google searches aren't really yielding much result
[10:25] <belgianguy> I have edited the .bashrc to color the text, is there such an option to color the bg?
[10:25] <belgianguy> IIRC that was export PS1=...
[10:26] <Tex_Nick> belgianguy:  in terminal "edit/profiles"
[10:26] <dr_willis> that would make some ugly prromts at times
[10:26] <dr_willis>  ;)
[10:26] <dr_willis> prompts
[10:26] <dr_willis> good old days.tricks of spending hours messing with the bash prompt. Check out the bash prompt howto at tldp.org
[10:26] <belgianguy> dr_willis: I have good taste ;) but when swithing terminals in Unity, it sometimes confuses me
[10:28] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: create some new profiles in gnome-terminal, then run "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=host1-profile -e "whatever""
[10:29] <belgianguy> TakeItEZ: and will it remember that? or does one have to do this each time (or create a script of some sort?)
[10:30] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: the profiles are permanent, but it won't remember what profile you used last time
[10:31] <belgianguy> TakeItEZ: could I make a bash script that I feed an IP and make it base its scheme on that?
[10:31] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: sure
[10:32] <belgianguy> TakeItEZ: ah, then I have a new pet project :) thanks!
[10:33] <belgianguy> well, I wouldn't really need a script, I could also just use an alias, right?
[10:33] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: i'd use hostnames = profilnames, then something like: gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=$1 -e "ssh $1"
[10:33] <belgianguy> TakeItEZ: smart that, that would eliminate bughunts if IPs change
[10:33] <elixir> Hi everyone. I installed wubi on 45 gb partition and the free space(as I see from windows) is 5 gb. But inside ubunu I see it to be full :( What shall I be missing?
[10:34] <dmitry29> Hi
[10:34] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : the "bash prompt howto at tldp.org" you provided looks like the definitive resousce ... :-)
[10:35] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: use ~/.ssh/config (man ssh_config, see Host and HostName) for easy to remember aliases for the hosts
[10:35] <elixir> SOmeone known to the query, plz help !
[10:35] <dmitry29> Hi gals
[10:36] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  and its like 5+ yrs old.. :) if not more
[10:36] <dr_willis> elixir:  wubi instralls into a FILE on the windows drive.. you made that HD file to be 45gb in size
[10:36] <dmitry29> dr_willis: Hi
[10:37] <franks2> anyone know if its a debian package for this? http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_Template_PHPLIB/redirected im unable to locate it
[10:37] <elixir> dr_willis: yes
[10:37] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : yeah , some of that stuff goes back to the old tty days ? lol
[10:38] <dmitry29> Anyone knows a good chatroom on coolquies?
[10:39] <elixir> dr_willis: I made a seperate partition, dedicated for installing wubi, of size 45 gb. But althigh 15 gb is still free as seen from winows, Inside ubuntu, it only shows me all "30" gb consumed [as seen from disk analyzer from ubuntu]
[10:41] <one> elixir: did you have an appointment to see the doctor?
[10:43] <usr13> elixir: How long ago did you install?
[10:43] <elixir> usr13: around 1 month
[10:43] <usr13> elixir: Did you install any extra applications?  Like maybe recordmydesktop?
[10:44] <elixir> usr13: No. have only codes [source codes], git, etc stuff
[10:45] <one> elixir: its those game genie codes stuck in the cube
[10:45] <elixir> one: everyONE is not born brilliant ! Please think before you utter !
[10:45] <dr_willis> wubi insrtalls to a file on the windows partition.. as far as i know elixir..
[10:46] <dr_willis> there are resize wubi instgall guides out there.
[10:46] <dr_willis> I dont use wubi.  so dont mess with it much
[10:46] <elixir> dr_willis: okay. I'll go through them.
[10:46] <usr13> elixir: All I can tell you is to search for large files.  ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>  du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>
[10:46] <one> elixir: what I am just giving hints
[10:47] <belgianguy> isn't wubi tying the fate of your Ubuntu install to that of your luck with Windows?
[10:47] <elixir> one: Again: see what I wrote above
[10:48] <usr13> elixir: fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send us resulting URL.  We'
[10:48] <usr13> ll have a look.
[10:48] <usr13> elixir: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And send us resulting URL.  We'll look and see.
[10:49] <usr13> elixir: How big is your hard drive?
[10:50] <usr13> elixir: It is possible that you made a separate partition but you did not use it.
[10:51] <elixir> usr13: I think I got answer from your point that wubi is installed in 15 gb file inside that hard drive. It is the max that wubi allows while installation. I think I shoud go with proper ubuntu installation. :)
[10:52] <histo> usr13: lsblk doesn't require sudo
[10:52] <elixir> usr13:  * 30 gb not 15 gb
[10:53] <elixir> usr13: Thanks a lot for 'concerned' replies. ! [unlike some- one ]
[10:53] <usr13> histo: Thanks info.
[10:57] <one> always a show
[10:58] <utterglee> good morning UGT, folks
[10:58] <M1DLG_> I've managed to install nvidia drivers using this guide http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html but steam starts then errors saying my version isn't high enough. how do I fix this?
[10:59] <utterglee> I am trying to get this functionality in Ubuntu: drupal.org/project/maillog
[10:59] <utterglee> it stops all email from going out
[10:59] <utterglee> then maintains detailed logs about the email that was attemted to send out
[11:00] <utterglee> I am testing a little application and mails are part of it, and I can't use gmail beause that's slow
[11:00] <M1DLG_> I've spent 2 days on my video problem, only asking for help when I hit an issue Ican't find solutions for on forums. but I am trying myself where I can.
[11:00] <utterglee> I tried setting up an iptable to block traffic
[11:00] <utterglee> but /var/log/mail.log is not informative enough
[11:02] <usr13> utterglee: Let's see the rule you used.
[11:03] <utterglee> usr13, iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
[11:04] <utterglee> when I execute the php file with a call to mail() it hangs
[11:06] <kgkgjhfjd> I installed ubuntu 12.04in my laptop(MSI x460dx) and ubuntu uses my battery so much. also i disable my graphic device but i doesn't correct
[11:06] <TakeItEZ> utterglee: you reject outgoing smtp and wonder why its not being sent?
[11:07] <utterglee> sorry... I guess I will delete that rule and see what happens
[11:08] <gofs> New hack tools Cryptography, Encryption,Hack,windows,linux,games,cs,psybnc,mirc,scan,ssh , etc.. feel free to visit www.team3d.3xforum.ro
[11:10] <usr13> utterglee: What about "/reports/maillog"?
[11:10] <dr_willis> mirc is a hack tool? ;)
[11:11] <one> where are you at Ubuntu that you always see dawn before here?
[11:11] <utterglee> usr13, there appears to be no such directory/file
[11:12] <usr13> utterglee: Well, it's www.example.com/admin/reports/maillog
[11:12] <utterglee> oh wait, sorry, I forgot what maillog was
[11:13] <one> If you are not sick there is no reason to see a doctor I am just here to warn you on the way in.
[11:13] <utterglee> usr13, I am not using drupal, I just wanted to show an example for the fine folks here
[11:13] <utterglee> of what I am after
[11:13] <DJones> one: Sto pwith the offtopic comments
[11:13] <usr13> utterglee: Oh.
[11:14] <utterglee> okay, so `ufw status` does not show existing iptables rules
[11:14] <utterglee> only "Status: active"
[11:15] <usr13> utterglee: Maybe just run tcpdump ?
[11:15] <maveas> utterglee: ufw status verbose?
[11:16] <usr13> utterglee: ... although, with the iptables rule, you may not see much.  I dono.
[11:16] <utterglee> what on earth... are all these server names...
[11:16] <usr13> utterglee: I dono.  You tell us.
[11:16] <one> utterglee: ufw is a frontend that just issues commands but other things may manipulate iptables which will not show
[11:16] <utterglee> maveas, ufw status verbose does not show any rules, just stuff like "deny(incoming) allow(outgoing)"
[11:17] <maveas> utterglee: okay, sorry, not used to use ufw
[11:18] <utterglee> tcpdump shows a bunch of weird servers trying to connect ... ns3.net4india.com : I know that nameserver... question is why is it reaching for my virtualbox?? :/
[11:18] <maveas> utterglee: Your VM use ns3.net4...?
[11:19] <one> utterglee: could be anything really
[11:19] <utterglee> the others are just crazy : mana.skafari.com barricade.rack911.com ... never heard of these things heh
[11:19] <utterglee> 11:15:29.165998 IP 10.0.2.15.ntp > barricade.rack911.com.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48
[11:20] <one> utterglee: that is what the public internet is all about
[11:20] <Bangwhistle> Hi.  Does anyone know, when you create a .forward in /root, will it send what you already have in /var/mail/root?
[11:20] <utterglee> there's even blah.com in there: http://pastebin.com/EBWu6chn
[11:21] <Bangwhistle> and if so, when will it do it?
[11:21] <one> utterglee: if you master ufw then you can start with iptables
[11:22] <one> concept is the same but syntax is different
[11:23] <one> utterglee: if you are really conscerned about it block everything and manually open up each route that you need
[11:23] <utterglee> one, do you mean these are just public internet packets richocheting off my computer on their way elsewhere?
[11:24] <utterglee> I read about this stuff but I never saw it before, how packets are routed thru all the computers on the internet... it is beautiful
[11:25] <maveas> Regarding iptables/netfilter on the desktop. Have anyone else experienced that '-m conntrack --ctstate established,related' on INPUT(DROP) doesn't work but '-m state --state' does?
[11:25] <TakeItEZ> Bangwhistle: no it won#t
[11:25] <utterglee> http://www.rack911.com/ these appear to be some linux management gurus, I suspect it has something to do with my aptitude sources settings
[11:25] <one> utterglee: I am getting scanned for SSH right now
[11:25] <Bangwhistle> Thanks TakeItEZ, is there a way to trigger it to do that?
[11:26] <TakeItEZ> Bangwhistle: no, you'll have to resent/forward those mails
[11:26] <usr13> utterglee: You should check out wireshark
[11:26] <one> utterglee: it is probably coming from the other side of the matrix
[11:26] <utterglee> the matrix..?
[11:27] <Bangwhistle> hmm I suppose I can install mail and manually forward them
[11:27] <utterglee> you mean... neo, elrond, that matrix :) ?
[11:27] <usr13> humor...
[11:28] <one> utterglee: you are inside of a cube look up down left right forward and backward
[11:30] <one> utterglee: what what do you want to know, master ufw then move to iptables and manually open up each route that you will use
[11:30] <utterglee> one, first thing, I just want to get rid of the iptables rule I added on someone else's advice
[11:31] <one> utterglee: man iptables
[11:31] <utterglee> but I don't know iptables and it is intimidating right now
[11:31] <utterglee> so I looked for iptables wrappers and found ufw
[11:31] <usr13> utterglee: iptables -D OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
[11:31] <one> ufw isnt going to show it
[11:31] <utterglee> but it won't show everything inside the iptables :/
[11:32] <maveas> utterglee: iptables -L -nv
[11:32] <WelCZa> hey guys
[11:33] <maveas> utterglee: You can flush a chain of all rules or delete one rule at a time..
[11:33] <usr13> utterglee: sudo iptables -D OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
[11:33] <maveas> utterglee: It's all in man iptables ;)
[11:33] <one> please pray for me, I pray for you
[11:33] <usr13> (To delete the rule you added earlier.)
[11:34] <utterglee> usr13, thank you... it says "no such chain/rule"
[11:34] <maveas> :D
[11:34] <usr13> utterglee: Then you must have missquoted it.  iptables -L
[11:34] <Praash> Hello everyone ^^
[11:35] <Praash> Could I possibly get some help about getting SSH right on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[11:35] <one> What hapened?
[11:35] <Praash> I'm attempting to connect into my server through PuTTY
[11:35] <usr13> utterglee: You can just flush.  sudo iptables -F
[11:35] <Praash> but whatever i try, it says "connection refused"
[11:36] <utterglee> usr13, I have a bunch of ufw rules in there I want to remove
[11:36] <utterglee> I tried the flush command but it still shows a lot of ufw things in there
[11:36] <utterglee> should I try to reinstall?
[11:36] <maveas> Praash: Using keys?
[11:37] <dr_willis> iptables --list shows current rules...
[11:37] <maveas> utterglee: No need to reinstall
[11:37] <usr13> utterglee: Look at history for the exact rule.  history |grep iptables
[11:37] <one> What happened
[11:37] <one> did i get kicked?
[11:37] <usr13> Praash: Are you sure sshd is running on the server?
[11:37] <DJones> one: Yes for continuing with offtopic comments
[11:37] <utterglee> "sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset"
[11:37] <one> oh
[11:38] <one> well I was making an exit statment
[11:38] <usr13> Praash: ... and you have the correct IP address
[11:38] <Praash> I do have correct IP
[11:38] <usr13> utterglee: sudo iptables -D OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
[11:38] <Praash> The SSHD is running, I tried to connect to itself @ localhost and no trouble at all
[11:39] <maveas> Praash: are you using the correct username?
[11:39] <usr13> utterglee: Oh, I bet you got an error when you tried to use that rule. Right?  Try it again and see.
[11:39] <utterglee> "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name."
[11:39] <utterglee> :(
[11:39] <utterglee> I messed up my iptables
[11:39] <maveas> utterglee: Lol
[11:39] <utterglee> and removing it messes with dependencies
[11:39] <usr13> utterglee: No you didn't.  Try setting it again.
[11:40] <usr13> utterglee: Try issuing the command to set the rule again, see if you get an error.
[11:41] <usr13> utterglee: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset  #What does it say in retrun.  Antying?
[11:41] <Praash> what I have is the correct IP, port, username and i also tried to open port 22 from UFW and from my main win7 desktop
[11:42] <usr13> utterglee: If it said that the rule does not exist, then it does not exist.  You probably tried to do it without sudo.
[11:42] <Praash> it's either that putty doesn't work correctly or i'm doing something wrong
[11:42] <maveas> Praash: Putty should work ;)
[11:42] <utterglee> okay... thanks so much for helping usr13; I have to go out very urgent at the moment, I will be back shortly and try those out again
[11:43] <utterglee> if you are not here, farewell in advance :)
[11:43] <usr13> Praash: If you were on a Linux computer I'd tell you to do  nmap -p22 ###.###.##.#   But.....
[11:44] <usr13> Praash: What command are you using?
[11:45] <Praash> usr13: In what context? I use Windows as my main desktop and try to use Putty with my server
[11:45] <usr13> Praash: But if you have another Linux computer, try scanning port 22 with nmap
[11:45] <Praash> I dont have any usable ones right now... I first tried to use an old laptop as an Ubuntu machine, but it no more boots up
[11:46] <usr13> Praash: I don't have much advise for MS Windows commands.
[11:46] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. Good morning (at least for me, 8.45 a.m. here hehe), afternoon or evening!
[11:46] <Praash> usr13: What does nmap do? I can try to replicate that with my PC
[11:47] <usr13> Praash: http://nmap.org/book/inst-windows.html
[11:47] <belgianguy> Praash: nmap is often used to check open ports at a given IP
[11:47] <usr13> Praash: I was wrong.  There's nmap for MS Windows, (I guess).  nmap is a port scaning tool.
[11:48] <usr13> Praash: So just use nmap to scan port 22
[11:49] <Praash> Okay, I will try that now
[11:49] <janisozaur> how can i use git svn to checkout specific svn revision?
[11:49] <Praash> Thanks for your advice ;)
[11:51] <fmauro> Hi all. I'm trying to make a package, that uses an older version of a library that is no longer in the precise repos (the required version isn't) how would I go about that? Can I include it directly, or do I have to link it statically? What's the procedure here.
[11:53] <aaa801> How would i copy a remote folder via ssh/scp to a local folder (one way server move)
[11:54] <janisozaur> aaa801, scp -r user@remote:/path/to/folder /path/to/local
[11:54] <aaa801> ta
[11:55] <ubunoobtu> hey guys, if i only had a command line, how would i figure out what my wireless card
[11:56] <Ben64> lspci or lsusb depending
[11:56] <Praash> usr13: I scanned the ports and turns out that 22 is not opened
[11:56] <janisozaur> ubunoobtu, lspci? lsusb? maybe wuith -v options. or go directly fo hwinfo
[11:56] <Ben64> Praash: is it "closed" or "filtered"
[11:56] <janisozaur> !hwinfo | ubunoobtu
[11:56] <ubunoobtu> okay thanks guys, ill try it out and be back
[11:57] <Praash> usr13: The nmap Windows version complained about not being able to load some libraries, so i used another program
[11:57] <ubunoobtu> alright thanks a lot guys, it worked
[11:57] <ubunoobtu> later all
[11:58] <aaa801> janisozaur, any way to speed this up?, most of the transver is files that are like 10kb each
[11:58] <utterglee> usr13, that -A command returns nothing
[11:58] <utterglee> but there is no failing message either
[11:59] <Praash> Ben64: The program I used only shows that it's closed
[11:59] <utterglee> okay, now: sudo iptables -L | grep tcp-reset
[11:59] <utterglee> REJECT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:smtp reject-with tcp-reset
[11:59] <utterglee> now doing -D works
[11:59] <utterglee> great
[12:00] <utterglee> mail is not the most n00b friendly place in Linux :)
[12:00] <utterglee> I suspect... in any OS
[12:01] <Ben64> Praash: on the computer running ssh server, do this - "netstat -ln | grep 22"
[12:01] <ubunoob> alright guys im back, i now know i have an AR928X, how do i find out what chip set is on my card
[12:02] <Praash> Ben64: Tried that now
[12:02] <cabpa> join #opensuse
[12:02] <ubunoob> or if any one has xp in the matter, i need drivers that will support injection
[12:02] <Ben64> cabpa: /join
[12:03] <Ben64> ubunoob: you should just get a card that is supported in linux
[12:03] <cabpa> thanks Ben64 : )
[12:03] <ubunoob> it is
[12:03] <Ben64> not really
[12:03] <ubunoob> im useing it right now
[12:03] <ubunoob> thats how im in this irc
[12:04] <Ben64> then whats the problem
[12:04] <ubunoob> i need the other drivers that support injection
[12:04] <Praash> Ben64: The dump shows "tcp6 :::22 :::* LISTEN"
[12:04] <Ben64> Praash: is that it?
[12:05] <Praash> Ben64: It also shows other matches
[12:05] <Praash> Ben64: That's the line that seems relevant
[12:05] <ubunoob> i did some research is it madwifi drivers?
[12:05] <Ben64> Praash: thats for ipv6
[12:05] <Praash> Ben64: :0 I see
[12:06] <Ben64> is there one that just starts with "tcp"
[12:06] <Praash> Ben64: There's "tcp 0.0.0.0:22"
[12:07] <ubunoob> the quad zero..
[12:07] <Ben64> Praash: then that means it's listening on all addresses, so you still have a firewall problem or something
[12:08] <ubunoob> ssh problems?
[12:08] <Praash> Ben64: Ok, I try to screw with windows firewall
[12:08] <Ben64> Praash: windows firewall?
[12:08] <Ben64> you're running sshd on linux, right>
[12:09] <Praash> Ben64: yup, the server is on linux
[12:09] <ubunoob> well thanks for the help guys, i guess im going to go figure this one out on my own
[12:09] <Ben64> then... probably linux firewall
[12:09] <Praash> Ben64: The client i'll be using is windows
[12:09] <nibbler_> my fresh 12.10 install drops me to grub while booting. then after loading kernel and initramfs it drops me to busybox, where i have to decrypt and lvm-activate my boot partition.... great :-)
[12:13] <nibbler_> ...and i'm pretty sure i did *not* tick that lvm box during install
[12:16] <nibbler_> which is in-line with ubutu-installers config of /etc/crypttab, which is also not lvm >:-(
[12:18] <Guest22870> bonjour
[12:19] <Guest22870> sa va
[12:35] <mdjsjdqe> hi
[12:36] <w3bg33k> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, and I installed the ubuntu desktop...how can I get to the network configuration for eth0 if the options button is grayed out?
[12:40] <styler2go> Hello. Can someone tell me how i can automatically execute some commands at, for example, 2 o'clock everyday?
[12:40] <styler2go> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[12:42] <llutz> styler2go: create a crontab, read "man 5 crontab"
[12:42] <styler2go> thank you :)
[12:46] <iceroot> !cron | styler2go
[12:49] <Alpha123> hello
[12:49] <AppleJuice> hello Alpha123
[12:49] <Alpha123> Since 7 hours, i am trying to access a EXT3 disk using UBUNTU Live CD.. but it dont work.  Do you guys know if Ubuntu supports lenovo 8811 satacontroller
[12:50] <Alpha123> becouse it works when using SATA -> USB 2.0
[12:50] <Alpha123> (✌ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
[12:51] <Alpha123> please help? ;D
[12:51] <hxm> hello
[12:52] <hxm> i want to let an user to execute an application but i wont it can do anything else, is that possible?
[12:52] <hxm> also that app can send exec commands to shell so i could avoid hack attempts, is that possible?
[12:52] <hxm> or this is too magic
[12:52] <styler2go> normally i can exit a command with Strg+C, right?
[12:52] <hxm> if the program you are executing let that signal yes, styler2go
[12:53] <styler2go> and if not? i typed in crontab -e and i cant leave this screen
[12:53] <hxm> when you execute crontab -e it ask you what editor you want to use
[12:53] <hxm> which one did you select?
[12:53] <styler2go> it did not asked me, it just oped this one: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4690/climsyclipboardur.png
[12:54] <hxm> ah, those view-insert editors based
[12:54] <hxm> did you change something?
[12:54] <hxm> with typing :q it will ask you to exit
[12:54] <styler2go> yes, this was empty, the one line is what i wrote
[12:55] <hxm> you can use first :w to save
[12:55] <hxm> and :q to exit
[12:55] <hxm> :wq will work, i guess
[12:55] <styler2go> uhm, thank you :)
[12:56] <styler2go> i dont like this editor :D
[12:56] <hxm> indeed, i guess you pressed "i" for add the line, then when you end editin, you press Esc
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:56] <hxm> so you are in view mode, and now you are able to send the :wq command
[12:56] <hxm> i either dont like those editors, nano is so cool
[12:56] <styler2go> yes i am using nano too
[12:57] <hxm> also if you type select-editor
[12:57] <hxm> it will ask you what default editor you want to use for contrab
[12:57] <styler2go> thanks :)
[12:57] <verysoftoiletppr> help, trouble reinstalling a package http://paste.ubuntu.com/5587729/
[13:02] <Nul0>  Hello. I'm considering formatting my external drive as ZFS and using it as a backup storage system (mainly for its inbuilt deduplication). I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. Does this sound like a good idea? Any words of caution I should bear in mind?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Nul0, any particular reason why you're using ZFS ?
[13:04] <[Saint]> "(mainly for its inbuilt deduplication)"
[13:05] <Nul0> BluesKaj, inbuilt deduplication (storage space)
[13:06] <BluesKaj> sorry , never heard that word before , is that dedicated duplication or some other meaning , Nul0 ?
[13:06]  * [Saint] suggests building a cheap NAS out of spares that pretty much everybody has lying around instead
[13:07] <[Saint]> BluesKaj: no.
[13:07] <Nul0> BluesKaj, https://blogs.oracle.com/bonwick/entry/zfs_dedup
[13:07] <[Saint]> deduplication == "to not needlessly duplicate"
[13:07] <[Saint]> Nul0: I'd seriously look into building a NAS, though
[13:08] <Nul0> [Saint], never tried that before. I'll look into it. What are its advantages over ZFS?
[13:08] <[Saint]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage
[13:09] <hdd1> hello, im trying to enable into my kernel the directive net.inet.tcp.nolocaltimewait, but i get is an unknown key. I need an extra kernelmod or something? im using ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.5.0-23 thanks
[13:09] <[Saint]> You could use a NAS, *with* ZFS, if you wanted ;)
[13:10] <DR01D-Engineer> anyone know the xchat command to delay connecting? so it can autojoin rooms that require registration
[13:10] <DR01D-Engineer> right now chat autojoins rooms before logging me in
[13:10] <DR01D-Engineer> xchat*
[13:10] <hxm> there is a xchat channel
[13:10] <Nul0> [Saint], faster data access does sound attractive (esp. if used for frequent backups)
[13:11] <DR01D-Engineer> ok ill ask in xchat channel. thanks
[13:11] <[Saint]> DR01D-Engineer: can't you do "wait XXX" in the autorun?
[13:11] <[Saint]> join #foo; wait 10; join #bar
[13:11] <[Saint]> etc.
[13:12] <[Saint]> Nul0: you probably want to look at FreeNAS
[13:14] <kernelpanic_> Hello! I want to replace e.g. cmake with a newer version not available in ubuntu. So I install it locally to /usr/local/. How can I tell ubuntu (on the commandline) that ubuntu-cmake should be removed, but still, cmake should be considered installed (so it doesn't re-install ubuntucmake when apackage depends on it)
[13:14] <kernelpanic_> In gentoo, I believe its done using /etc/portage/package.provided
[13:14] <DR01D-Engineer> saint. autorun? i dont see that in settings... all i can see is in network list, edit, connect command. i have msg nickserv identify user pass, so i guess after that command i put the join commands
[13:15] <Nul0> [Saint], I'll give it a shot. Seems to fit the bill perfectly.
[13:15] <[Saint]> Wooo!
[13:16]  * [Saint] does the "I knew something useful" dance
[13:17] <nydel> for some reason my HDMI out won't seem to work as a secondary suddenly.. if i boot with it plugged in, it's the primary. if i boot with it unplugged, the laptop monitor is primary & the hdmi does nothing.
[13:17] <nydel> any help greatly appreciated
[13:17] <[Saint]> DR01D-Engineer: I thought xchat had autorun, my mistake - anyway - here: http://www.beamartyr.net/projects/autorun.html
[13:17] <[Saint]> but, this is wildly off-topic.
[13:18] <nmittal> hello ppl.. i just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and Nvidia drivers.. I have a 2 monitor setup.. however when I maximize a window it only fills one monitor.. how can i make it fill both monitors.. i am able to drag windows back and forth the 2 monitors so i know i have one x-screen
[13:18] <[Saint]> You should probably go poke the guys at #xchat
[13:19] <nmittal> is there another channel for unity
[13:20] <benkaiser> does uds start in 40 minutes or am I way off?
[13:22] <hector> hectorex
[13:22] <[Saint]> nmittal: #ubuntu-unity
[13:22] <nmittal> [Saint], thanks.. do you happen to know the answer to my question by any chance?
[13:23] <[Saint]> Nope.
[13:23] <nmittal> [Saint], ok thanks
[13:23] <nydel> what command will show me all video devices
[13:23] <[Saint]> lshw?
[13:24] <oryades> sudo lshw -C video
[13:24] <benkaiser> does uds start in 35 minutes or am I way off?
[13:25] <[Saint]> benkaiser: 2PM UTC - do the math for your locale
[13:25] <ivotkl> benkaiser, I apologise, but I do not know what UDS means.
[13:25] <[Saint]> Ubuntu Developer Summit, I assume
[13:25] <ivotkl> Cool.
[13:25] <ivotkl> What is that? Sorry. =$
[13:26] <[Saint]> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[13:26] <benkaiser> [Saint], yes that is correct... and okay, think it should be 1am here in Eastern Australia
[13:26] <nydel> if the output of "lshw" is only "PCI (sysfs)" does that point to a problem i can resolve?
[13:26] <[Saint]> it means you probably didn't use sudo
[13:27] <nydel> i did
[13:27] <[Saint]> On slow systems, it can take some time.
[13:27] <nydel> there is some sort of problem, i am trying to use my HDMI out as a secondary display - until today it's always just worked.
[13:27] <[Saint]> I wouldn;t expect it to ever take longer than 60 seconds, though.
[13:28] <nydel> but now if i boot up with hdmi unplugged, it doesn't do anything when i plug it in. if i boot with it plugged in, the hdmi is the only display (laptop screen is blank)
[13:29] <ivotkl> My netbook's screen goes blank when connecting HDMI. Perhaps that's how it works, unless both screen worked before.
[13:29] <nydel> both screens have always worked
[13:29] <ivotkl> I currently do not know how to make dual screens displaying at the same time. Any help?
[13:29] <nydel> and right now if i boot from a usb stick both screens work
[13:30] <nydel> [Saint]: could you look at the output of lshw for me? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5587778/
[13:30] <[Saint]> I could...but, I'm not entirely sure why I'd want to.
[13:31] <nydel> [Saint]: i thought maybe you'd help me because i'm desperate and asking graciously?
[13:31] <ivotkl> That seems to be your integrated graphics working while on HDMI screen is  plugged in, right?
[13:31] <ivotkl> nydel, what are you trying to achieve? Dual screening?
[13:31] <nydel> ivotkl: well, the main screen is blank, and the HDMI is low-res
[13:31] <nydel> yes ivotkl, usually i can do this:
[13:31] <nydel> xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 1280x25 --rotate normal --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output DP1 --off --output VGA1 --off
[13:32] <nydel> and that sets me up with a dual display
[13:32] <nydel> but right now that gives me a lot of errors like none of those devices exist
[13:32] <ivotkl> Cool.
[13:32] <ivotkl> Ouch...
[13:32] <ivotkl> What if you check how video config settings are when booting from USB and try to apply them to current system?
[13:32] <nydel> i'm not sure what i've done but perhaps i've uninstalled something or f'd up a xwindows config file?
[13:33] <nmittal> hello ppl.. i just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and Nvidia drivers.. I have a 2 monitor setup.. however when I maximize a window it only fills one monitor.. how can i make it fill both monitors.. i am able to drag windows back and forth the 2 monitors so i know i have one x-screen
[13:33] <ivotkl> Could be, anything's possible when we put our hands on a highly tweak-able system, hehe
[13:33] <DelphiWorld> Hi Ubuntuficators:)
[13:33] <nydel> ivotkl: that's great idea, thank you. what files would i look at?
[13:34] <DelphiWorld> guys can someone pastebin me a valid sources.list file?
[13:34] <ivotkl> No idea, I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff. I was just giving you an idea. =$
[13:34] <DelphiWorld> us.archive.ubuntu.com is not resolving
[13:34] <patrycjusz> hi all I get this error "No route found for "GET o/hello" " when i want to access "http://symfony.dev:8080/app_dev.php/demo/hello"  --  why i cutting demo/hello to o/hello ?
[13:34] <ivotkl> I can post you mine with those servers. I haven't modified it.
[13:34] <patrycjusz> sorry wrong room
[13:34] <nydel> ivotkl: thanks a lot that's very helpful
[13:34] <DelphiWorld> ivotkl: please bro, and send me the url in a pm...
[13:34] <[Saint]> nmittal: as far as your lshw output - your system seems to think it only has one display output.
[13:35] <DelphiWorld> ivotkl: also if you can give me the PPA archive
[13:35] <[Saint]> This, one assumes, is the root of the problem.
[13:35] <[Saint]> Even if you're not using both outputs, all available outputs should be listed there.
[13:36] <nydel> [Saint]: right - and thank you kindly - do you have any idea what i may have done to cause this?
[13:36] <rsvp> Nice overview on Mir + Unity QML + Unity APIs = Unity -- from Olli, http://www.olli-ries.com/mir-unity-qml-unity-apis-unity/
[13:36] <nydel> i kind of feel like there is some stupid config file i could just delete somewhere if i only knew what it was, or something?
[13:36] <[Saint]> No idea what would cause this, sorry.
[13:37] <[Saint]> it also seems kinda odd that it lists the display as unclaimed.
[13:38] <[Saint]> I would think it should be in use and hence "claimed", if you have any form of visible display at all.
[13:38]  * [Saint] shrugs
[13:41] <nydel> [Saint]: perhaps if i uninstall and reinstall the xorg intel video.. i guess i'll have to play around. thanks a lot for pointing me in a direction, i appreciate it
[13:42] <[Saint]> here you can see mine listing both the VGA and DVI outputs, for instance: http://pastebin.com/a8UM3VfB
[13:42] <TechnikalMind> hi. I'm getting the error message "/etc/cron.daily/apt: Cache has broken packages, exiting" in my logs. what do?
[13:42] <[Saint]> If I unplug the DVI input, line 15 simply changes to "  *-display:1 UNCLAIMED"
[13:44] <[Saint]> TechnikalMind: "sudo apt-get clean"; then try again
[13:45] <TechnikalMind> [Saint]: how do I know which ones are the broken ones that I have to fix?
[13:45] <[Saint]> You don't need to.
[13:45] <[Saint]> apt-get clean should "just work".
[13:45] <TechnikalMind> *waves magic wand* :D
[13:46] <elijah> How do I get rid of these "Galaxy Nexus Networks" that were made when I hooked my phone up to my computer. They keep increasing => http://ubuntuone.com/7BHnlOPMejEhnlN0x3NCWa
[13:47] <elijah> I don't see any way to delete them, they are not with the other connections
[13:49] <savagecroc> Hi...
[13:49] <savagecroc> ok i've got an ubuntu image running in vmware
[13:49] <savagecroc> and i'm having problems trying to network with it. it's got an ipaddress and i can ping it and i have openssh running on port 52444
[13:50] <savagecroc> but i am unable to connect to the port.. (note: previously when i was plugged into my office network i had no problem)
[13:50] <savagecroc> i've tried restarting the ssh service. but still can't connect
[13:50] <savagecroc> any ideas on how to debug?
[13:51] <savagecroc> ugh
[13:51] <savagecroc> after all that
[13:51] <savagecroc> got the port number wrong
[13:51] <savagecroc>  </stupid>
[13:51] <baswazz> i just installed Ubuntu 10.10 i386 on my ESXI server but the add-apt-repostitory cmd does not work. I already have installed python-software-properties
[13:51] <theadmin> baswazz: 10.10 is not supported.
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> is there any way to undo deleted files via ftp on a ubuntu server 12.04?
[13:52] <baswazz> theadmin: not supported? on esxi?
[13:52] <savagecroc> Wiz_KeeD: use some file-based recovery program
[13:52] <theadmin> baswazz: No, it's not supported at all. It's reached end-of-life.
[13:52] <baswazz> theadmin: i have a VM running 10.10 amd64 it does work
[13:52] <lollie_lol> cou
[13:53] <lollie_lol> coucou
[13:53] <lollie_lol> sa va
[13:53] <lollie_lol> ?
[13:53] <savagecroc> Wiz-Keed: afiak it deletes the info from the file allocation table.. so you have to use something that scans each sector to get the files back
[13:53] <theadmin> baswazz: It might work... But the repos have been brought down, and it's not supported on IRC.
[13:53] <baswazz> theadmin: what doe you advice?
[13:53] <savagecroc> theadmin: 10.04 is not even that old
[13:53] <srhb> Hi! I seem to have accidentally uninstalled my sound driver's module. Which package do I need to reinstall it? It's called snd_hda_intel
[13:53] <lollie_lol> What are you doing?
[13:53] <theadmin> savagecroc: 10.04 was an LTS and so it's supported longer, 10.10 is EOL now.
[13:54] <baswazz> theadmin: i made a type i am pointing to 12.04 and 12.10
[13:54] <savagecroc> ahhh right
[13:54] <theadmin> baswazz: I suggest installing a more recent version, such as 12.04 or 12.10
[13:54] <savagecroc> is there any point in bothering with the .10 version then?
[13:54] <savagecroc> versions
[13:54] <baswazz> theadmin: i made a type error i have 12.04 installed
[13:55] <theadmin> savagecroc: Well, there are regular releases every 6 months -- they have shiny new stuff, but the LTS releases (every 2 years) are more stable and have longer support.
[13:55] <srhb> What's the current kernel version on 12.10?
[13:55] <theadmin> baswazz: Ah, okay then. Hm. That I can help with. Are you running add-apt-repository as root? (you need sudo before that command, generally)
[13:55] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic quantal | srhb
[13:55] <srhb> theadmin: Thanks.
[13:55] <baswazz> theadmin: yes i use sudo before the command
[13:56] <theadmin> baswazz: Hm, what's the output then?
[13:56] <Pici> baswazz: Does the ppa that you are adding actually provide a package for your release?
[13:56] <srhb> Are the kernel modules normally included with the linux-image-version-generic packages?
[13:57] <[Saint]> Hummmm...
[13:57] <om26er> is there a way i could disable nvidia and only use Intel GPU on my laptop
[13:57] <om26er> Optimus
[13:57] <[Saint]> Is there a way to limit bash history to N entries?
[13:57] <savagecroc> i need to install a package on a machine with no internet connection what can i do?
[13:57] <baswazz> Pici: i installed 12.04 and i saw a erro compiling for i386 so it isnt thats why i installed 12.10
[13:57] <theadmin> [Saint]: None that I know of.
[13:58] <[Saint]> Right, thanks.
[13:58] <Pici> baswazz: Can you provide the exact command that you entered?
[13:58] <baswazz> theadmin: Pici http://paste.ubuntu.com/5587828
[13:59] <baswazz> Pici: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[13:59] <theadmin> srhb: Well, according to dpkg -L linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic (my current kernel), a whole bunch of stuff was installed in /lib/modules by that package. So, yes, modules are included with the image.
[13:59] <Pici> baswazz: It says that it is already installed.
[13:59] <baswazz> Pici: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oscam/ppa
[13:59] <srhb> theadmin: Right. Odd that the module went missing after the last upgrade.
[14:00] <theadmin> srhb: What module is it? If it's some third-party one you may need to rebuild it.
[14:00] <Pici> baswazz: And what happened after you typed that?
[14:00] <baswazz> Pici: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:00] <elijah> What is the name of the network manager in Ubuntu?
[14:00] <elijah> network-manager doesn't seem to be it
[14:00] <theadmin> elijah: NetworkManager.
[14:00] <srhb> theadmin: No, it always just worked up until now. It's a pretty common module, snd-hda-intel
[14:00] <YatharthROCK_> What're the diff.s bet. pre-released (proposed) and unsupported (backports) updates?
[14:01] <theadmin> YatharthROCK_: proposed are going to make it in the main repos after a bunch of testing. Backports are the newer versions of packages from next releases.
[14:01] <elijah> theadmin: Thanks! I tried that without ProperCase, I never would have thought to try that!
[14:01] <theadmin> elijah: Yeah, odd name :/
[14:02] <Art1> noob question... how can I get to a terminal window before Ubuntu loads... without going to the grub window?  12.04
[14:02] <YatharthROCK_> theadmin, Thanks. How could I upgrade from QQ to Ubuntu 13?
[14:02] <ivotkl> It's been a pleasure everyone. See you later.
[14:02] <baswazz> Pici: you have any idea?
[14:02] <YatharthROCK_> Art1, Use recovery mode, maybe?
[14:02] <Pici> baswazz: Ithink add-apt-repository has moved to the software-properties-common package in 12.10
[14:03] <apwbdjp> Art1, you need the system to load, to get a terminal. Using recovery mode is also through grub
[14:03] <theadmin> YatharthROCK_: No 13.x versions are released yet, and so you can't.
[14:03] <YatharthROCK_> Art1, Or use xdotool to hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 right after boot...
[14:03] <baswazz> Pici: ok ill try that
[14:03] <theadmin> YatharthROCK_: Once it's released, you'll get a notification.
[14:03] <YatharthROCK_> theadmin, So i have to install it separately? No upgrades?
[14:03] <Art1> need to uninstall catalyst... even recovery freezes to a black screen
[14:03] <theadmin> YatharthROCK_: Nah, you can upgrade, but once it's released. If you're looking to upgrade to the development version, though, please consult #ubuntu-1 on how to do that.
[14:03] <theadmin> Err.
[14:03] <theadmin> #ubuntu+1
[14:04] <theadmin> Art1: Do you have a LiveCD?
[14:04] <Art1> yes... that is the only way I can use my computer atm :(
[14:05] <Art1> and reinstalling everything after a reboot is getting old
[14:05] <theadmin> Art1: Perfect! Mount your / drive and then issue the following command: sudo chroot /media/whatever (where /media/whatever is where it's mounted).
[14:05] <theadmin> Art1: Then, use "sudo apt-get remove ..." as you normally would
[14:06] <Art1> hehe... just "mount c" ?
[14:06] <theadmin> The heck is "c"? That doesn't seem like a device node to me.
[14:06] <theadmin> Art1: It's more likely to be something along the lines of "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[14:06] <Art1> some background... I'm completely new to ubuntu as of 2 days ago... had my head in the sand with windows
[14:06] <theadmin> Art1: You can use the filemanager to mount it for you, then hit Ctrl+L to find the address it mounted it to.
[14:07] <baswazz> Pici: thanks for the fast support that did the trick
[14:07] <apwbdjp> Art1, or use the palimpsest (Ubuntu Disk Utility) to mount it
[14:08] <elijah> What would be the best way to upgrade NetworkManager 0.9.4.0 (precise stable) to 0.9.8.0?
[14:09] <Art1> palimpsest?
[14:09] <Art1> seperate download from the live cd?
[14:09] <theadmin> Art1: Never mind that... Go to the file manager and hit something like "100500GB Storage", then hit Ctrl-L and you'll find the path to chroot to.
[14:14] <Art1> grrr... giveing me permission denied
[14:14] <theadmin> Art1: What exactly is?
[14:15] <[Saint]> YatharthROCK_: "update-manager -d"
[14:15] <Art1> theadmin: I used "sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*"
[14:15] <[Saint]> YatharthROCK_: assuming you're on 12.10, this will prompt to install 13.04
[14:16] <YatharthROCK_> [Saint], Tried that, but it didn't prompt me to install RR :(
[14:17] <xxiao> anyone used lftp
[14:17] <[Saint]> YatharthROCK_: works for me.
[14:17] <xxiao> mmediately
[14:17] <xxiao> it worked for me well, however now after i download stuff and quit lftp, the downloaded image is gone i
[14:18] <brucelee1> hi
[14:18] <jpmh> xxiao: I use it all the time - what do you mean "the download image is gone"?
[14:18] <jmev> bekks: I've tried all of the vbox instructions on mounting a windows share in an ubuntu guest, but nothing's working. I keep getting the same error, "mounting failed with the error: No such device"
[14:19] <xxiao> jpmh: on 10.04, i pget -n 5 ftp://my.iso, then issue "bye", and the image is not there
[14:19] <xxiao> jpmh: while downloading, i saw that image is increasing in size
[14:19] <brucelee1> ciaO
[14:19] <brucelee1> ciao
[14:20] <xxiao> it worked for me in the past
[14:20] <brucelee1> !list
[14:20] <escott> xxiao, what folder are you downloading to
[14:20] <xxiao> escott: ~/downloads
[14:20] <jmev> I've searched google and checked pages marked "solved", but they all seem to give similar advice that doesn't work. I'm mounting per the instructions, and even tried installing "build-essential linux headers", per one page, but no change
[14:20] <jpmh> xxiao: so basically you are getting the file to your current working directory, and then it goes away?
[14:20] <xxiao> jpmh: yes
[14:21] <jpmh> xxiao:  what happens if instead of pget you just use get?
[14:21] <xxiao> jpmh: whenever i quit lftp, if i stay in, the file is there
[14:21] <xxiao> jpmh: did not test, the download is too slow single threaded
[14:21] <xxiao> like 40+ mins
[14:22] <jpmh> try the single thread - I think that what is happening is that the transfer is not really completing - I am also not familiar with "bye", do you mean quit?
[14:22] <jmev> any thoughts as to why it's such a pain mounting a drive in ubuntu running on vbox?
[14:22] <escott> xxiao, how exactly is parallel download supposed to be faster?
[14:22] <brucelee1> !list
[14:23] <jpmh> xxiao: typically multi-threaded is rarely faster when you are getting one file from one source since usually the limiting factor is the link or the sending server and this is not helped by going multi-threaded
[14:23] <xxiao> escott: depends on the server side i assume
[14:23] <xxiao> some server limits speed on one request
[14:24] <jpmh> xxiao: escott I think escott is saying the same as I am
[14:24] <xxiao> if you issue, say 5 requests, you get 5x faster speed, per my testing
[14:24] <xxiao> some other servers are smart to avoid that though, so it depends, but does not hurt to try parallel
[14:24] <escott> xxiao, thats really rude of you to try and evade that then
[14:24] <jpmh> xxiao: for the purpose of this debug try a regutal single threaded get - it may not be as fast as you want but it is faster than failing, which is what is happening
[14:25] <xxiao> ok
[14:25] <jpmh> escott: xxiao I also agree with escott that if someone has set a limit it is inappropriate to try and evade it
[14:25] <xxiao> jpmh: i rarely do that, only once a while i need something quick
[14:26] <jpmh> xxiao:  your comment that five connections is five time faster certainly should not be the case for one file unless as you say the sender has implimented a per-connection limit - in which case you should honor it
[14:27] <jpmh> xxiao:  is this a public site you are connecting to?
[14:27] <xxiao> yes
[14:27] <jpmh> xxiao:  then, care to share the ftp address and I will try - I have a VERY fast link
[14:28] <brucelee1> ciao
[14:28] <brucelee1> !list
[14:28] <escott> xxiao, if you are using ftp you my try disabling the control/data port and running over the same TCP connection. one could be throttling the other
[14:29] <jpmh> escott:  can you explain that to me - what do you mean?
[14:29] <escott> jpmh, active vs passive
[14:30] <selena2013> hello
[14:30] <selena2013> today is ubuntu developer summit
[14:30] <jpmh> escott:  ty - makes sense - I personally have never seen a problem with lftp - but good thinking
[14:31] <kuukuuu> how much is a domain
[14:31] <jpmh> escott:  since you seem to know more about lftp than me, is there any way that I can have it use my ssh-keygen key when I am doing an sftp connection?
[14:31] <escott> xxiao, ie try "PASV" mode (assuming you are currently in active mode)
[14:31] <escott> jpmh, sftp is not ftp so it doesnt have that stuff
[14:31] <ero-jiji> mornin all
[14:32] <jpmh> escott:  you mean the ssh-keygen key when you say "that stuff"
[14:32] <escott> jpmh, but if you are using sftp then any normal ssh-keygen; ssh-copy-id will work as expected
[14:32] <escott> jpmh, sorry "that stuff"="active/passive"
[14:33] <jpmh> escott:  I thought it should but I have a server where I have my public key in the authorized keys and sure enough when I ssh there I connect without needing futher authentication but when I connect with lftp sftp://user@domain I do still need to enter the password
[14:33] <Ajx1999> is anyone here good with ubuntu
[14:33] <Ajx1999> hey new world
[14:34] <Ajx1999> can u help me with a problem'
[14:34] <oldude67> Ajx1999, nope we just like the way it sounds.
[14:34] <Ajx1999> lol\
[14:34] <[Saint]> Ubunwhaaaa?
[14:34] <jpmh> escott: on the active v passive, yes, I realize that - ty - that's why I did not think of the active v passive - I rarely use an insecure connection anywhere - other than to freenode of course
[14:34] <Ajx1999> no but seriusly
[14:34] <oldude67> !ask
[14:34] <ero-jiji> no we just hate windows
[14:34] <ee12026> #sup
[14:34] <Ajx1999> im trying to acsess ubuntu and it vomes up with a screen saying gnu grub
[14:34] <Ajx1999> im trying to acsess ubuntu and it vomes up with a screen saying gnu grub
[14:35] <ee12026> #sup
[14:35] <Ajx1999> say how to i get past it
[14:35] <Ajx1999> i type in boot but it says i have no loded kernal
[14:35] <Ajx1999> i will do anything to get it fixed
[14:36] <Ajx1999> i have all my files on my duel boot syatem
[14:36] <jpmh> Ajx1999: I doubt you would do ANYTHING?
[14:36] <Ajx1999> what is that supposed to mean]
[14:36] <Ajx1999> i looked up like 50 tutoirals
[14:36] <Ajx1999> im extreamly good at computers
[14:36] <jpmh> escott: so, is there some way I can use that ssh authentication with lftp?  I do not seem to find it
[14:36] <akis> hi. suddenly i cannot delete any file because i take the message "the trash has reach its maximum size". but my trash is empty!!!
[14:36] <Saalko> Hello all, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 (32bit version i368). I've got a nvidia Laptop with a Geforce GT 555m. And for this I need bumblebee. But I have troubles to install the program. I tried to install it per "Synaptic" the package: "bumblebee-nvidia".  But for this I need to install "nvidia-current" (grafic driver for nvidia cards) But when i try to install this I have to install "xorg-video-abi-11" But this package isn't availab
[14:37] <Ajx1999> ok so is NO ONE going to help me
[14:37] <Pici> !patience
[14:37] <escott> jpmh, i dont know anything about lftp, but it probably uses its own sftp client implementation that must not support the ~/.ssh directory
[14:37] <Ajx1999> its a ubuntu 12.05 lts rror
[14:37] <ero-jiji> i can think of a few things involving small animals, a rubber hose, a car door, and others that you probably wouldnt do ^^
[14:37] <Ajx1999> it says i cznt load kernal
[14:38] <akis> ok, forget it. i fixed it.
[14:38] <ero-jiji> @akis enable hidden files in the properties
[14:38] <Ajx1999> is amyone here a ubuntu expert
[14:38] <jpmh> escott:  ty so much - I suspect that you are exactly right - and it is not a big deal because of the sripting capability of lftp - it would have just been nice
[14:38] <Ajx1999> or atleast knows how to transfer files from my ubuntu side to my windows site without using ubuntu
[14:39] <Ajx1999> like a program
[14:39] <jali_f> hello in 12.10 is there a performance mode/powersave mode setting
[14:40] <jpmh> Ajx1999 have you EVER booted that ubuntu?
[14:40] <ero-jiji> @saalko http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012370&page=2
[14:42] <ero-jiji> @saalko theres a workaround on page 2 - 3
[14:42] <Saalko> @ero thanks a lot.
[14:42] <ero-jiji> @saalko but read the whole thread so you know whats going on ^^
[14:43] <Saalko> yes. but need a restart now. Thanks for the tip.
[14:43] <ero-jiji> np
[14:47] <Malinux> I have the following issue with igal2: I can't make it use UTF-8
[14:47] <objectlogic> yes
[14:49] <objectlogic> i have the following issue with igal7.
[14:49] <ero-jiji> sigh, one more day of waiting for rsync ><
[14:49] <objectlogic> rsync
[14:49] <ero-jiji> transfering 3.8TB from old dedi to new one
[14:50] <newbie-14th-day> any way to open the webcam ,take a photo .. by using the terminal?
[14:50] <ero-jiji> outgrew the existing backup server
[14:53] <theadmin> newbie-14th-day: See the webcamd package.
[14:56] <nsahoo> everytime I boot ubuntu 12.04, the Xorg takes 100% cpu and screen stays blank. It's a new installation. Any help?
[14:56] <nsahoo> the last line on Xorg.0.log reads: [    59.745] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): WAIT: (E, 0, 0x857d)
[14:59] <nsahoo> hi
[14:59] <jony> please give me someone a good desktop notes tool
[15:00] <nsahoo> everytime I boot ubuntu 12.04, the Xorg takes 100% cpu and screen stays blank. It's a new installation. Any help?
[15:00] <nsahoo> the last line on Xorg.0.log reads: [    59.745] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): WAIT: (E, 0, 0x857d)
[15:00] <nsahoo> Not sure if I was on the channel last time
[15:09] <Pici> You were
[15:09] <nsahoo> Pici: thanks. Still the same problem.
[15:11] <drewlover> Hey guys.. been a while since I've ran Ubuntu, but doesn't the installer set up dual boot natively? I found this page (http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/dual-booting-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/) but he's going at it quite strangely IMO....
[15:11] <nsahoo> It seems like several other people have seen this problem but no solution yet
[15:12] <theadmin> drewlover: Yeah, you can just use "Install near current OS" or whatever this option appears as.
[15:12] <Otto141> alguien que hable español??
[15:12] <drewlover> theadmin: that's what I thought... wonder why the guy is doing a manual install :S
[15:12] <Pici> !es | Otto141
[15:14] <one> sit down and eat a sandwich in front of an abortion clinic
[15:14] <one> you make me want to puke
[15:15] <one> you make me sick to my stomach
[15:15] <zAo^> one, ?
[15:16] <one> zAo^: speaking to chanserv
[15:16] <one> quite me in every other channel
[15:18] <one> they need to point those red light cameras at the entrance to the abortion clinic and the rear door to get the doctors
[15:18] <one> these bunchof morons
[15:18] <one> lets get them at the red lights but let them butcher the childs
[15:19] <one> father take my anger
[15:19] <one> Holy one True one
[15:19] <one> do you want to see his fire?
[15:19] <somsip> !ops | one is trolling
[15:19] <one> King of ANything!
[15:20] <helmut_> hi
[15:22] <supNow> Hello, I'd like to connect to my ubuntu server from another ubuntu desktop within the same network. I want a GUI and have ubuntu-desktop installed on server... all help I find online is for SSH. I don't wish to SSH I want a remote desktop like ability.
[15:23] <jrea> You're looking for VNC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[15:35] <mJayk> Anyone here run Ubuntu 12.10 with a gnome 3 remixy style ?
[15:37] <selena2013> anybody got the irc channel for the summit
[15:37] <selena2013> ?
[15:37] <jmmmmmmmmm> good day all
[15:42] <Pici> selena2013: #ubuntu-uds
[15:42] <selena2013> well  thanks
[15:44] <b2w> how to run shell programs in android?
[15:45] <Pici> b2w: not really on-topic for #ubuntu, try #android
[15:46] <b2w> join #android
[15:46] <b2w> how to go to #android?
[15:46] <Pici> b2w: /join #android
[15:47] <srhb> For some reason I have almost no drivers installed in /lib/modules/kernelversion
[15:47] <srhb> Where might I rebuild them/redownload them?
[15:47] <fnuser> srhb: apt
[15:47] <srhb> For instance, my USB mouse no longer works.
[15:48] <KolakCC> srhb: you mean the linux headers? install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[15:48] <srhb> I don't think I mean headers (since I have those installed)
[15:48] <fnuser> KolakCC: i think he is asking for touchpad drivers , audi drivers and such
[15:49] <srhb> I mean whatever I need to install to be able to use these devices that worked before I upgraded the kernel. :)
[15:49] <fnuser> srhb: is it a new usb mouse?
[15:49] <srhb> No.
[15:49] <fnuser> srhb: ahh
[15:49] <srhb> I also had to manually get some dkms driver to get my intel sound card to work again.
[15:49] <srhb> Probably not using the right terminology here, I'm confused at how this works.
[15:49] <fnuser> srhb: compiled the kernel? or used the update manager?
[15:50] <srhb> apt-get install'ed it
[15:50] <srhb> I've also lost my wireless card and other fun stuff. :P
[15:51] <fnuser> srhb: download a fresh image and install. and restore home folder
[15:52] <srhb> The issue is most definitely not my home folder, it's that the modules either a) are not there b) aren't loaded
[15:52] <srhb> But I believe they aren't there since modprobe fails to find them
[15:52] <srhb> I'll try installing another kernel, but I've done that several times now.
[15:52] <fnuser> srhb: try reinstalling the os.
[15:53] <lantizia> Hey if I want someone (a non-privileged user) to save a script somewhere that'll be in his path... where can it go?  (I thought ~/bin was in the path - but it isn't now :S)
[15:53] <srhb> That's the last resort, yeah. I hope it doesn't come to that.
[15:53] <srhb> It would be lovely if only I understood what determines which modules are placed in /lib/modules and by which package. Maybe then I could understand why I'm missing some or they aren't loaded.
[15:54] <nagchampa> ok guys, i'm having serious problems with sound. Doing very minor things (scrolling a page, moving my cursor over the icons in the unity launcher) causes my sound to start crackling and eventually stop altogether. If I have something playing in rythmbox the playback pauses (without rythmbox itself pausing), if I kill pulseaudio sound starts working again when it restarts
[15:54] <fnuser> lantizia: /usr/local/bin
[15:54] <nagchampa> however i've tried running pulseaudio with -vvvvv and when the sound stops working, pulseaudio is still running and doesn't seem to notice the sound has crashed
[15:55] <lantizia> fnuser, I said non-privileged user
[15:55] <nagchampa> i've tried adding tsched=0 to the line "load-module module-udev-detect" in /etc/pulse/default.pa but this seems to make it worse
[15:55] <jhutchins_wk> nagchampa: Getting rid of pulseaudio usually solves those problems.
[15:56] <nagchampa> jhutchins_wk: yes, but that introduces problems of its own, so i was hoping to be able to try to get pulseaudio working
[15:56] <fnuser> lantizia: create a /home directory or in /mnt and set the permissions and update the $PATH variable
[15:57] <lantizia> fnuser, yeah your not getting it at all - nevermind
[15:57] <layer3> [troy] l access
[15:57] <layer3> [linux] Access for troy (troy@alphachat/staff/troy) is Bot Owner.
[15:57] <layer3> [troy] l voice layer3
[15:57] <layer3> [troy] l op troy
[15:57] <FloodBot1> layer3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <layer3> Huh
[15:58] <fnuser> lantizia: run echo $PATH and paste the output
[15:58] <lantizia> $HOME/bin seems to be the answer as I thought... but .profile only adds it to your $PATH if the directory existed whenever .profile is executed
[15:59] <lantizia> if I open a terminal... mkdir ~/bin ... close the terminal and re-open it then $PATH still doesn't show it
[15:59] <lantizia> So I'm guessing .profile is ran right at the beginning of me logging in?
[15:59] <Pici> lantizia: correct.
[15:59] <fnuser> lantizia: yes, put it in .bashrc
[15:59] <lantizia> fnuser, that's not needed
[16:00] <lantizia> Pici, anyway to re-load .profile whilst still in the same session?
[16:00] <Pici> lantizia: source ~/.profile
[16:01] <guest-R3nkk4> hi
[16:01] <lantizia> Pici, yes but that doesn't make the changes .profile does persistent... if I close and re-open the terminal then the path is back to the way it was
[16:01] <fnuser> i wonder how bad it is to help
[16:01] <guest-R3nkk4> please let know how ubuntu works
[16:01] <Pici> lantizia: If you're in a graphical session, you'd need to log out completely and log back in for .profile to take effect.
[16:02] <lantizia> Pici, no way around that?
[16:02] <fnuser> you are doomed lantizia
[16:02] <Pici> lantizia: I *think* you might be able to put it in your .bashrc and have it run when you open the terminal.
[16:02] <guest-R3nkk4> i have never used ubuntu before  How do i start?
[16:03] <lantizia> Pici, meh didn't really want to meddle with whats already there
[16:03] <fnuser> don't say that to her, Pici . she doesn't need that
[16:03] <lantizia> SHE!?
[16:03] <fnuser> ok HE*
[16:03] <guest-R3nkk4> no body WANTS TO HELP ME?
[16:03] <lantizia> look it's not bad to help - but you didn't understand the original context of what I was asking
[16:04] <lantizia> I don't need a 101 tutorial on paths, exports, bash, etc - as I know that... I was after what the *protocol* was for putting user made non-privileged scripts some place
[16:04] <fnuser> haha.. really?
[16:04] <lantizia> and it was ~/bin as I remembered anyway - but it needs a login/out after mkdir ~/bin to be effective :S
[16:05] <fnuser> lantizia: how about you open your terminal and run "echo $PATH" and prove your point
[16:05] <ikonia> lantizia: putting ~/bin in someones path is dangerous so it's not done by default
[16:05] <hapster> What happens now that Mir is on the way? Will the upgrade be seemless? Or are we expecting apps to break?
[16:06] <ikonia> hapster: what upgrade ?
[16:06] <lantizia> ikonia, well... it is... it's in .profile - but it's only done if ~/bin exists
[16:06] <ikonia> lantizia: there you go then,
[16:06] <lantizia> lol  - so what you just said isn't quite true lol
[16:06] <ikonia> lantizia: no...it's not
[16:06] <ikonia> lantizia: please re-read what I said
[16:06] <lantizia> i'd just like a way of enabling ~/bin without having to login/out
[16:06] <ikonia> lantizia: source the .profile
[16:07] <hapster> ikonia: for example, let's say Mir is ready for 13.04 and I'm currently in 12.10. Will upgrading be as easy as upgrading from the update manager? Even if it uses a different compositor?
[16:07] <lantizia> ikonia, which only works for that terminal - been over this before
[16:07] <ikonia> hapster: it's not in 13.04, check the roadmap
[16:07] <ikonia> lantizia: so re-start, it's one restart of the X11 enviornment
[16:07] <llutz> there is nothing dangerous with ~/bin at all and you cannot prevent someone to set it, even if you (whyever) dislike it. differnt thing is "."
[16:07] <srhb> For anyone wondering, the trick was to install linux-image-extra. Go figure
[16:08] <hapster> ikonia: I know. But just for example, transitioning between an XOrg version and a Mir version. Will it be simple?
[16:08] <lantizia> ikonia, which is a pain if someone is trying to follow these instructions and is in the middle of a million other things and doesn't WANT to logout
[16:08] <lantizia> llutz, i completely agree
[16:08] <ikonia> lantizia: then they just need to wait
[16:08] <fnuser> round round and round goes lantizia
[16:08] <lantizia> fnuser, further than you got
[16:08] <hapster> ikonia: I'm also concerned about some apps I've developed and some apps I'm currently using. Dunno if it will break or something. Do I have to do a rewrite and study how Mir works or will the API have some compatibility layer.
[16:09] <Pici> fnuser: Can you please drop the useless comments.
[16:09] <fnuser> Pici: no
[16:11] <lantizia> Pici, ok a little out my comfort zone with this question... but since .profile is set when you very first log in  -  isn't that essentially on the first tty or something?  can .profile be re-run as that tty to make it global for everything?
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> .profile runs in each new shell you open, and you can also run it manually to activate changes you've made.
[16:21] <ikonia> hapster: you're going to have to wait until more information is known I think
[16:21] <hero100> problem of ATI with 12.10. Does anyone tried the 12.6-legacy-x86.x86_64? http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[16:22] <hapster> ikonia: ok thanks. mixed feelings about Mir right now. I just hope Ubuntu will still stay open.
[16:22] <ikonia> hapster: hard to have any feelings with so little known
[16:23] <hapster> ikonia: yeah but in essence, it's basically doing things on your own. Or at least you have Ubuntu doing things on their own without the help of the Linux community in general.
[16:23] <hapster> ikonia: and that's what worries me. Ubuntu is becoming more Ubuntu than a linux distro. If that made any sense. haha
[16:24] <ikonia> hapster: if you read the documentation references to linux have been removed for a long time, eg: The Ubuntu Kernel, rather than the Linux kernel
[16:25] <K350> howto add a new user and make sure hell have a homedir in /hom ewith the same name as th user?
[16:25] <jrib> K350: use "adduser USERNAME"
[16:26] <hapster> ikonia: yeah. But I still want Ubuntu to be a Linux option rather than being in a world where it's Mac vs Windows vs Linux vs BSD vs Ubuntu
[16:26] <nullby7e> help
[16:26] <nullby7e> ?
[16:26] <ikonia> nullby7e: question
[16:26] <ikonia> ?
[16:26] <nullby7e> can I run geforce gtx 650ti with latest ubuntu?
[16:27] <nullby7e> does package is updated for new cards
[16:27] <nullby7e> graphic nouveau package?
[16:27] <nullby7e> or how to run it
[16:27] <hapster> ikonia: anyway, we'll see how it goes. trying to follow the UDS and waiting for some more info.
[16:27] <ikonia> !nvidia | nullby7e
[16:27] <rethus> try to install simon (speech recognize) on ubuntu, but got the error: Could not find Qwt 6.x
[16:28] <rethus> but i have installed libqwt6
[16:29] <rethus> ah, found it, need the libqwt-dev package
[16:31]  * [Saint] is somewhat disturbed by how usable Ringtail is...
[16:31] <davis776> hello any way to set desktop icons to grid (keep aligned seems to not work properly) and why Nautilus does not remember last position?
[16:31] <zomgor> Hey. How can I look up the bug reports sent by my system any time some app crashes?
[16:31] <holstein> davis776: in unity? ubuntu 12.10?
[16:31] <davis776> holstein, yes
[16:33] <davis776> holstein, or if there are any plans implementing this in 13.04
[16:35] <Yud_Zroc> If im collaberating with java with another person to develop, can we use openjdk and the normal java(i beleive the other person is using windows)
[16:36] <Costeelation> regards people
[16:36] <zomgor> Yud_Zroc, sure, the jdk used is interchangeable unless you're dealing with jvm specific runtime options (the -X namespace)
[16:37] <Costeelation> anyone know how to solve the problem of the black screen in Precise?
[16:37] <zomgor> Yud_Zroc, and even then at least openjdk and the oracle jvm (which I assume you mean with 'normal') are very similar there too
[16:37] <nir> i will, thanks guys . i'm really impressed from the help
[16:38] <Yud_Zroc> zomgor: so its possible to develop a game using both openjdk and oricals java for windows using jmonkey3?
[16:38] <Yud_Zroc> Thats one less heartattack i need :D
[16:38] <zomgor> Yud_Zroc, the code you write has nothing to do with the jvm it runs on
[16:39] <zomgor> zomgor, if it does, that's a bug in one of the jvms by definition
[16:39] <zomgor> erm, Yud_Zroc ^
[16:39] <Yud_Zroc> zomgor: ok, thanks I assume its just the compiling phazes would be the difference lol
[16:39] <zomgor> no
[16:39] <zomgor> Yud_Zroc, no differences in the byte code either
[16:39] <Yud_Zroc> oh
[16:40] <zomgor> you can compile on ubuntu using openjdk and the resulting class files will execute just fine on windows using the oracle vm
[16:40] <Yud_Zroc> hm i guess we will start doing our thing thanks zomgor
[16:40] <zomgor> have fun coding :)
[16:41] <Yud_Zroc> I will, starting is the worth part though lol
[16:41] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there : I'm having an issue related to a samba share mounted on my ubuntu machine
[16:41] <CaptainQuirk> Is it the right place ?
[16:41] <Yud_Zroc> CaptainQuirk: what is the issue?
[16:42] <CaptainQuirk> The samba share is actually serving files of a unix server
[16:42] <CaptainQuirk> That's a disk every one uses in the company to work on website projects
[16:42] <CaptainQuirk> some project are versioned with git, which a mess with samba but that's how it is conceived for now
[16:43] <CaptainQuirk> I needed to install some nmp (node.js) module for my project. If failed from my machine for permission issues
[16:43] <CaptainQuirk> I installed them as root connecting through ssh to the server
[16:44] <CaptainQuirk> I don't know how, but, despite the fact that this particular directory was ignored, Some files ended up being tracked by git
[16:44] <CaptainQuirk> To the point where I couldn't perform simple checkout/merge operation
[16:45] <CaptainQuirk> I think git is trying to delete some files internally for which he doesn't have permissions to
[16:45] <CaptainQuirk> I'm kind of stuck here ...
[16:45] <Yud_Zroc> hm, this is way out of my level of expertise, anyone else available to help CaptainQuirk
[16:46] <Yud_Zroc> I only know th basics of samba
[16:48] <tyrog> Hello. Does anybody have the following issue in Ubuntu 12.10? The performance of desktop and apps becomes sluggish after I leave the computer in idle for some time. When I return everything is slow, laggy, sluggish. I don't know if this is Unity or Graphics driver-related. Anybody with something similar? Thanks
[16:48] <lisandrop05> hello, any one knows why when a folder si compressed using 7z it stop and putput something like:
[16:48] <lisandrop05> ./BackupGeneration.sh: line 6: 20026 Killed                  7z a -mx9 /tmp/BackUP/www.7z /srv/www/ > nul 2>&1
[16:48] <lisandrop05> ./BackupGeneration.sh: line 6: 20026 Killed                  7z a -mx9 /tmp/BackUP/www.7z /srv/www/ > nul 2>&1
[16:48] <FloodBot1> lisandrop05: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <tyrog> Hello. Does anybody have the following issue in Ubuntu 12.10? The performance of desktop and apps becomes sluggish after I leave the computer in idle for some time. When I return everything is slow, laggy, sluggish. I don't know if this is Unity or Graphics driver-related. Anybody with something similar? Thank
[16:50] <lisandrop05> tyrog: I use to have a problem like that after some iddle time my computer appear frozzon
[16:50] <Yud_Zroc> tyrog: out of curiosity what does your system moniter say?
[16:50] <holstein> tyrog: you can install xfce4 and test, and see if its unity.. and force the vesa driver and see if its the graphics driver
[16:50] <lisandrop05> tyrog: my problem where firefox, it can increase the memory usage to the infinite
[16:51] <tyrog> Yud_Zroc: Didn't check it :( . I always reboot directly after that.
[16:51] <lisandrop05> and don't leave any free memory
[16:51] <tyrog> lisandrop05: In my case I close Firefox when idle, so thats not a problem here.
[16:52] <lisandrop05> tyrog: you shuld at least check using the top command
[16:53] <Yud_Zroc> tyrog: keep an eye on your resorce monitor to keep an eye out for programs going haywire, or bottelnecks in your system. sometimes It could be a simple program eating up your resorces
[16:54] <tyrog> lisandrop05: I just left transmission. But if I use my computer like I'm doing it now, the problem doesn't come. Its just in idle.
[16:59] <CaptainQuirk> Anyone for my samba-git disaster
[17:04] <dendazen> Does anyone know that in 12.04 in sudoers i put for my account NOPASSWD : ALL
[17:05] <dendazen> but when sudo -i it still prompts me for a password
[17:05] <dendazen> is this something new?
[17:05] <jpds> dendazen: No, you have something misconfigured.
[17:06] <dendazen> not really
[17:06] <dendazen> .
[17:06] <dendazen> myusername         ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:06] <dendazen> That is my line
[17:13] <lisandrop05> dendazen: lisandrop05 ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:14] <lisandrop05> works perfect to me
[17:14] <nawaf> why is /proc/cpuinfo non-editable?
[17:14] <Myrtti> nawaf: why should it be editable?
[17:15] <cordoval> bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system
[17:15] <nawaf> Myritti i want to modify my i3 processor to i7. to show off
[17:16] <elisa87> my friend wants to help me regarding installing a toolkit. "Mona will you be able to give me an account to remotely access your machine?" I don't know how to create an account for him so he can remotely access to my machine
[17:16] <nawaf> Myrtti i want to modify my i3 processor to i7. to show off
[17:16] <cordoval> after dealing with skype
[17:16] <cordoval> bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system
[17:16] <cordoval> it locked my disk
[17:16] <cordoval> ubuntu crashed
[17:16] <cordoval> please hel[
[17:16] <cordoval> p
[17:16] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <Myrtti> nawaf: that's not going to happen, the file is only a way of the kernel to tell you what you have, not to actually edit.
[17:19] <lisandrop05> elisa87: i gess you need a vnc server installed on your computer
[17:19] <lisandrop05> to allow remote access
[17:19] <lisandrop05> or you can give an ssh access
[17:19] <elisa87> do you have a good guide on how to install a vnc server? can I use teamviewer? lisandrop05
[17:20] <lisandrop05> elisa87: teamviewer solve the problem
[17:20] <lisandrop05> it dosn't need additional installation
[17:20] <lisandrop05> another option is logmein, but it's only for PC and MAC
[17:21] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: teamviewer works
[17:22] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: but in general, what you ore sooking for is a "reverse vnc"
[17:22] <Platz> If i have some numbers in a text file, after reading a slice into a buffer, do I have to convert the buffer slice to a string and then parseInt that string, or is there a way to get the int from the buffer directly?
[17:22] <cornfeedhobo> are looking*
[17:22] <Platz> sorry, ignore
[17:23] <elisa87> cornfeedhobo:  can you talk a little more about reverse vnc? why should I prefer it to teamviewer?
[17:23] <lisandrop05> Platz: regularr expressions
[17:23] <hector>  /join #hackerspaces
[17:23] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: well whats your goal?
[17:23] <lisandrop05> elisa87: teamviewer is a reverce vnc
[17:23] <cornfeedhobo> i use teamviewer to support client remotely all the time
[17:23] <elisa87> should i use "su useradd" lisandrop05
[17:23] <Platz> lisandrop05: ;) regex too slow I had believed
[17:24] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: i also use logmein through linux all the time
[17:24] <lisandrop05> if you will use teamviewer you don't need it
[17:24] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: yeah teamviewer is a r-vnc
[17:24] <Injigo> hello
[17:24] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: hi
[17:25] <lisandrop05> Killed                  7z a -mx9 /tmp/BackUP/www.7z /srv/www/ it happens to me every time I try to compress a folder that contains a lot of files and folders
[17:25] <lisandrop05> any idea of how to solve it
[17:25] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: how goes it?
[17:25] <lisandrop05> cornfeedhobo: logmein for linux??
[17:26] <lisandrop05> cornfeedhobo: where I can get it?
[17:26] <kalenjohnson> lisandrop05, is your CPU/RAM being used up?
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: through your browser
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> i use it through chrome
[17:26] <lisandrop05> I work on ubuntu servers
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> was like an hour ago
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> oh
[17:26] <lisandrop05> and debian servers
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> well then
[17:26] <lisandrop05> but my opperating system is MAC OS
[17:26] <cornfeedhobo> ssh + xvnc
[17:27] <cornfeedhobo> one sec
[17:27] <fidel> hi - i am running ubuntu 12.04 - 64 bit. i just added 2x2GB ram to the existing setup of 2x2gb. In theory that makes 8GB -lshw reports 4 dimms as well - each with 2gb. here comes the problem: 'free' only reports 4GB. any idea?
[17:28] <elisa87> why the following doesn't work? jalal@dfyhs5l1:~$ sudo adduser milind sudo
[17:28] <elisa87> [sudo] password for jalal:
[17:28] <elisa87> adduser: The user `milind' does not exist.
[17:28] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc
[17:28] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: do not post in here. ose dpaste.org or something
[17:28] <cornfeedhobo> use*
[17:29] <elisa87> anyway do you know the answer? cornfeedhobo
[17:29] <Injigo> anyone know anything about making shares visible to windows machines?
[17:29] <Costeelation> i have a problem with my brightness.. in the lightdm the screen is black :( only i can listen the sound for type my password login.. some idea?
[17:30] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: no...the way you pasted it i thnk broke things up
[17:30] <lisandrop05> elisa87: just to ask do you type exactly "sudo adduser milind sudo"?
[17:30] <holstein> !tty | Costeelation you can try tty access to shutdown or whatever, and i would look at the graphics driver support
[17:30] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: please paste on dpaste and i will be able to help
[17:31] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: the sudo at the end of a adduser??? you just added the user 'sudo'    hahaha
[17:31] <elisa87> that's no fun!
[17:31] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: i use x11vnc alot too
[17:32] <n-iCe> hi
[17:32] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: its super handy when i work on ubuntu servers
[17:32] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: are they samba shares?
[17:32] <cornfeedhobo> elisa87: sry
[17:32] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: yes
[17:33] <tvoss> daniels
[17:33] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: well from the windows box did you try the ip and not the wins name?
[17:33] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: i've configured samba and share the folders but cant get windows to see them
[17:34] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: run box = \\<ip>\sharename
[17:34] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: try that out
[17:36] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: i tried "\\192.168.1.101\(sharename)
[17:36] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: as well as "\\192.168.1.101"
[17:36] <Injigo> no response
[17:37] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: hmmm
[17:37] <elisa87> I am not able to save my item in visudo! It's not like vi . How can I save it?
[17:37] <cornfeedhobo> one sec i have a support call... brb
[17:37] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: alrighty
[17:39] <Injigo> elisa87: are you trying to make x11vnc server start up before login takes place?
[17:40] <CatKiller> Hi! I've got a silly question, and I can't seem to answer it: Where are the default exported ENV variables set on Ubuntu? I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables and could not figure out where for instance LANG and TERM were set
[17:40] <CatKiller> Even after checking ~/.bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile, etc
[17:48] <enapupe> Hi.. My VMware Player is asking for kernel-headers but I already have them.. Don't know what to do..
[17:49] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: um, can you post your samba config?  dpaste.org
[17:49] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: will do
[17:51] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: if i can find the bloody file
[17:52] <cornfeedhobo> should be /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:53] <Injigo> ah got it
[17:56] <lisandrop05> hello any one
[17:56] <lisandrop05> help
[17:56] <lisandrop05> 7z not compressing
[17:56] <lisandrop05> large files
[17:57] <lisandrop05> showing message:  killed
[17:57] <lisandrop05> any way to fix it?
[17:57] <llutz> lisandrop05: you ran out of memory?
[17:57] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: http://dpaste.org/EqZLF/
[17:58] <kalenjohnson> lisandrop05, I asked you the same question as llutz
[17:58] <shevy> Hi, canonical will develop Mir, anyone happens to know if Mir will be closed source or open source?
[17:58] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: watch top while you do it
[17:58] <cornfeedhobo> or htop if you have it
[17:59] <lisandrop05> I'm on it
[17:59] <iceroot> shevy: maybe it will hit 14.04 so its offtopic here
[17:59] <iceroot> shevy: but it should be FOSS
[18:00] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: coll. what tool did you use to make the config?
[18:00] <cornfeedhobo> cool*
[18:00] <nameless`> hi there
[18:00] <lisandrop05> cornfeedhobo: llutz kalenjohnson yes that's the problem
[18:00] <nameless`> maverick seems to have disapeared from archive, is that normal ?
[18:00] <iceroot> nameless`: no
[18:01] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: just the samba configurator that was already installed
[18:01] <llutz> lisandrop05: add some more temporary swap
[18:01] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: you can create a large blank file, format it as swap, and mount it temporarily
[18:01] <lisandrop05> the memory of the PC is completly consumed by the 7z
[18:01] <DJones> nameless`: Yes, it eol'd in April 2012
[18:01] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: k. brb
[18:01] <iceroot> nameless`: but if i am correct the mirrors for EOL releases was not "archive"
[18:01] <DJones> !eol | nameless`
[18:01] <iceroot> !eol | nameless`
[18:01] <verysoftoiletppr> I need to reinstall libc6 but apt-get gives me some errors A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory:  '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so'
[18:01] <nameless`> thanks iceroot DJones
[18:01] <iceroot> nameless`: the last link will have an info about the repo name
[18:01] <lisandrop05> cornfeedhobo: no, I can't do i, I'm on VPS and the provider don't allow to user any swap area
[18:01] <lisandrop05> or swap file
[18:02] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: hahaha i would leave them then!
[18:02] <cornfeedhobo> shitty vps provider
[18:02] <lisandrop05> when you try to mount it on fstab it retuns error
[18:02] <iceroot> !language | cornfeedhobo
[18:02] <cornfeedhobo> sorry :-)
[18:02] <alainus> i find that ubuntu runs rather slow in an i7-3770k + 4gb ram. even crashing sometimes (erratic, not regularly). I'm even considering switching to Lubuntu, is this normal ? or can it be a misconfiguration? I want to rule that out first.
[18:02] <kalenjohnson> lol
[18:02] <lisandrop05> cornfeedhobo: you're rigth
[18:02] <cornfeedhobo> alainus: not at all normal
[18:03] <kalenjohnson> alainus, what's slow?
[18:03] <iceroot> alainus: without usefull infos we cant help, have a look at /var/log/syslog for example
[18:03] <cornfeedhobo> lisandrop05: linode, hostduplex, hostvirtual, digitalocean
[18:03] <lisandrop05> no cornfeedhobo I'm using myhosting
[18:04] <cornfeedhobo> no, those are my reccomendations
[18:04] <cornfeedhobo> digitalocean is known to have slooooww cpus though
[18:04] <alainus> cornfeedhobo, kalenjohnson, iceroot: at this moment i don't have any logs, and i haven't had crashes today, but i can come back with more info later if you think that's necessary
[18:04] <kalenjohnson> cornfeedhobo, but SSD's!
[18:04] <Platz> There are some projects which are trying to embed node in executables but are still in development i believe
[18:05] <Platz> arg
[18:05] <cornfeedhobo> kalenjohnson: lol. yeah but cpu!
[18:05] <cornfeedhobo> php eats more cpu than io but i know what you mean
[18:05] <kalenjohnson> alainus, but what feels slow? I also have an i7, although more RAM than you. But Ubuntu is supah quick
[18:05] <shevy> iceroot I see, cool
[18:05] <cornfeedhobo> hostduplex has the best balance from my experience
[18:05] <kalenjohnson> cornfeedhobo, that's true
[18:05] <cornfeedhobo> good io and good compile times
[18:06] <kalenjohnson> cornfeedhobo, i'll have to check them out. I haven't tested a lot of VPS 's. Actually I just started using EC2 for the first time this month
[18:06] <kalenjohnson> I'm new to all the virtual hosting, it's very exciting :)
[18:06] <cornfeedhobo> oh what do you think? i have wanted to try them
[18:07] <kalenjohnson> cornfeedhobo, it's pretty interesting to be able to spin up servers at will. Just have to remember to stop them when you're not using them, or you pay more
[18:07] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: first change name resolve order... wins should be in front
[18:07] <iceroot> alainus: if we should support you we need that kind of information
[18:07] <cornfeedhobo> kalenjohnson: haha interesting
[18:07] <cornfeedhobo> yeah i dont really need that yet so i have stuck with traditional vps
[18:07] <alainus> kalenjohnson, well launching simple applications like chrome sometimes takes a little longer than expected. I also get pretty frequent "freezes" on whatever application i'm working on (even on xchat here). the launcher icon from unity in the left (i don't know the exact name) takes a few seconds to show up... overall just a little clogged.. it's not the end of the world but it strikes me as strange being a pretty fair cpu
[18:08] <ophuk> I have a cron job, used crontab -e, to run every week on Tuesday and i noticed it didn't seem to be running. I changed it to run today at 12:30 and it wasn't running. How would I go about figuring out why it's not running
[18:08] <verysoftoiletppr> I need to reinstall libc6 but apt-get gives me some errors "A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory:  '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so'" ...
[18:09] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: you are at home or something? what router are you using? whats the computing environment?
[18:09] <kalenjohnson> alainus, I have gotten that once in a while... but usually it's the program acting up, not necessarily Ubuntu, afaik. But if you try another desktop, that could help answer your question if it's Unity or not :)
[18:09] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: purge it first?
[18:09] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588389/
[18:10] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo than I can't do anything, almost every app relies on libc6
[18:10] <alainus> kalenjohnson, i'm trying lubuntu-desktop just today. it flies so far. but of course that's a pretty big overkill. i know lxde is designed for 90's computers
[18:10] <kalenjohnson> cornfeedhobo, hoo, hostduplex is a little pricey for a VPS, I guess that's why they have the best CPU's eh?
[18:10] <AlphaPinky> what is the best gamer laptop for running ubuntu?
[18:10] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: i dont see anything about resolvers in the config file. and yeah i'm at home using an actiontec router from my ISP
[18:10] <cornfeedhobo> kalenjohnson: pretty much
[18:11] <kalenjohnson> alainus, that's true. But if it works for you, it works. You could always try stock Gnome, or KDE... or Cinnamon... or Mate :)
[18:11]  * AlphaPinky got a Dell XPS but it over heats when running Ubuntu.
[18:11] <kalenjohnson> AlphaPinky, I would check out Clevo resellers like Malibal, XoticPC, etc. Clevo make nice laptops with customizable parts and high-end video cards
[18:11] <KingPixel> AlphaPinky, define overheat? Does it shut down? clean your PC :)
[18:11] <cornfeedhobo> kalenjohnson: and all the hypervisors are dells with e5s i think
[18:11] <alainus> kalenjohnson, a question: Gnome/Openbox shows up in my log in menu now that i installed lubuntu-desktop, is that Gnome or is it something else?
[18:12] <kalenjohnson> alainus, I'm not quite sure
[18:12] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: k... i will post a response so you can just paste it :-)
[18:12] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on a laptop and i need a way for the ubuntu machine to share its wireless internet connection via a wired connection to a windows machine how do i do that?
[18:12] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: please remove that copy of the C library or get it out of
[18:13] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: are you sure apt-get and dpkg use it?
[18:13] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo you don't know what your are talking about do you?
[18:13] <Injigo> cornfeedhobo: thanks :)
[18:13] <KingPixel> hellhammer, you're hurting my head. Why doesn't the Windows machine just get a WiFi adapter? They're cheap.
[18:13] <AlphaPinky> KingPixel, it heats for real, and gets so hot that starts burning my me. the issue the graphic card. it seems NVidia didnt do a good job with Linux. I´ve googled it and the issue seems to be related to a new technology ¨Optimus¨. this technology isnt well implemented for this laptop I have. it seems Dell´s BIOS doesnt handle it well. It just heats and dries the battery.
[18:13] <hellhammer> thats not an option right now
[18:13] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: frankly i use gentoo and not ubunt all that often, so i could be off
[18:14] <KingPixel> nvidia cards are the best with linux, better than radeon cards. if a PC over heats, it will shut itself off, laptops can get 'hot' but not necessarily be over heating where it causes damage to the CPU
[18:14] <KingPixel> monitor CPU temp, make sure it's not over 75 celsius
[18:14] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: but it would seem silly for opt to recommend that if it was _so_ obvious
[18:14] <cornfeedhobo> apt*
[18:15] <AlphaPinky> KingPixel, it does heat. Until a point that the notebook is not usable. but only happens in Linux.
[18:15] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo well sudo doesn't work without libc
[18:15] <cornfeedhobo> so? sudo it su first :-P
[18:15] <KingPixel> hellhammer, you need some sort of software to turn the laptop into a switch and use your ethernet port as a client-end connection, i don't know of such a thing
[18:15] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: so? sudo it su first :-P
[18:15] <KingPixel> hellhammer, you can probably do that through server 2008 routing
[18:16] <hellhammer> ok how do i do that
[18:16] <KingPixel> Server 2008 R2 RRAS role
[18:17] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo only to find out that apt-get doesn't work and I need to boot my machine with a livecd to restore libc6?
[18:17] <KingPixel> then configure your adapters so that your wifi is your internet and your NIC is your client-end
[18:17] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: could you paste the output of "sudo netstat -tuap" ?
[18:18] <killinginthename> hi im pulling my last hair out over the trouble with wifi on samsung np-n310. running 12.10. tried both wicd and network-manager-gnome. it can see the networks, asks for wifi key and then nothing.
[18:18] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: um maybe debian would be a better place for you. sorry for bothering you
[18:18] <killinginthename> the module is ath5k
[18:18] <cornfeedhobo> #debian*
[18:18] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo in #debian they only help people who use debian
[18:18] <verysoftoiletppr> not buntu
[18:19] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: well then maybe you should not have been snipy
[18:20] <clandestine> hi
[18:20] <clandestine> hi
[18:20] <cornfeedhobo> clandestine: hi
[18:20] <imacake> hi
[18:20] <killinginthename> i tried different params (all_channels, no_hw_rfkill_switch, nohwcrypt, fastchannelswitch) and different combinations.
[18:21] <killinginthename> then i tried a usb dongle (ath9k_htc)
[18:21] <killinginthename> same story
[18:24] <_dreamer> Hi, I am quite new to ubuntu and I am wondering how to (in a proper way) make an application of my choice run on startup as a service. I need the "terminal" way of doing this. Thank you :)
[18:25] <selena2013> well somebody here will help you
[18:26] <_dreamer> That is what I am counting on while I continue googleing my problem
[18:26] <newbie|2> Just passing through... New to Ubuntu. Anything I should know? Lifetime Windows user before discovering this...
[18:27] <Nach0z> newbie|2: exe's don't install stuff. windows programs don't work on ubuntu by default. ubuntu is WAY FASTER and uses less hard disk space. And finally, get used to using the terminal, because you'll need it fairly often.
[18:27] <garota_arisca> tem algum brasileiro aqui
[18:27] <garota_arisca> ?
[18:27] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: all the way at the bottom...in your download share....'browsable' is commented out.... you might also want to run samba as a wins server, but i am not sure if your router can tell dhcp clients where the wins server is, you would have to explore that
[18:27] <newbie|2> Terminal?
[18:27] <Nach0z> you CAN get windows apps to work in ubuntu using wine, or possibly mono depending on the exe...
[18:27] <DJones> !br | garota_arisca
[18:27] <_dreamer> To be more straight forward I want to make noip2 run on startup and as a service on my machine, how?
[18:27] <Nach0z> newbie|2: terminal is like command prompt
[18:28] <cornfeedhobo> Injigo: seriously though, just uncomment that and restart samba  (sudo service samba restart)
[18:28] <Nach0z> you'll end up using it a lot
[18:28] <newbie|2> Ah okay, thanks. I remember reading about such things, so I'll get busy familiarizing myself
[18:28] <cornfeedhobo> work calls have a good day guys!
[18:31] <iceroot> 12. B�hse Onkelz - Heilige Lieder.flac (ungültige Kodierung)  - means incorrect codepage. what is generating that filename with the ()? samba? or nautilus?
[18:31] <Izzo> _dreamer, edit /etc/rc.local and put it in
[18:31] <iceroot> nautilus shows that this is the filename (with the ())
[18:33] <Izzo> iceroot what does ls give?
[18:33] <iceroot> Izzo: the broken filename without the ()
[18:33] <iceroot> Izzo: so i guess nautilus is doing strange things here
[18:34] <iceroot> Izzo: and i bet for the developers its not a bug but a feature
[18:34] <Izzo> :)
[18:34] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo yeah… once again… I made the mistake of moving libc6
[18:34] <verysoftoiletppr> apt-get doesn't work
[18:34] <Izzo> iceroot:is your ubuntu set to english
[18:34] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: why do you keep removing the core library ?
[18:35] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: is a live cd that bad? and ya how does it move?
[18:35] <iceroot> Izzo: no
[18:35] <verysoftoiletppr> cornfeedhobo very bad
[18:35] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia I'm trying to reinstall libc6
[18:35] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you have a backup?
[18:35] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: why ?
[18:36] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: moving libc6 is the most stupid thing you can do on GNU/Linux
[18:36] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia because I wiped pkg/info
[18:36] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: why not try a symlink
[18:36] <Izzo> uh
[18:36] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: the package info does nothing to the actual files
[18:36] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot I know, but cornfeedhobo recommended it twice
[18:36] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: the libc library should still be in place if you just wiped the package info
[18:37] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia I wiped info
[18:37] <cornfeedhobo> verysoftoiletppr: again. you moved it right? not delete it?
[18:37] <verysoftoiletppr> then moved libc6
[18:37] <cornfeedhobo> mone it back?
[18:37] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: what did you wipe / how and why
[18:37] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: why did you move it ? where did you move it to ?
[18:37] <cornfeedhobo> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588389/
[18:38] <ikonia> cornfeedhobo: why are you doing re-install libc ?
[18:38] <cornfeedhobo> not m
[18:38] <cornfeedhobo> me
[18:38] <cornfeedhobo> him
[18:39] <cornfeedhobo> ikonia: thats verysoftoiletppr,s paste
[18:39] <ikonia> ok, so he needs to answer then
[18:39] <cornfeedhobo> sorry yor the bad typing... new dvorak layout
[18:39] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia I accidentally rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/info; then I tried to recover by reinstalling every package except a few packages which give an error, one of them is libc6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588389/ ; then I moved libc6 as suggested by apt-get and other users
[18:39] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: that's just crazy
[18:39] <bnason> I'm trying to recompile a package from its source but gcc is erroring out and I believe its because i don't have enough memory, is there a way to fix that?
[18:40] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia which part?
[18:40] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: I'd suggest you do a total re-instlal now to get to a sane install point
[18:40] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: all of it
[18:40] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia that would be a hugepita
[18:40] <ikonia> bnason: doubtful you've not got enough memory
[18:40] <verysoftoiletppr> huge pita
[18:40] <cornfeedhobo> bnason: swap
[18:40] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: fixing this will be a bigger one
[18:40] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia not sure of that
[18:40] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: I am
[18:40] <bnason> 512MB is what I have
[18:40] <cornfeedhobo> bnason: but agreed. doubtful
[18:40] <ikonia> bnason: what are you trying to build
[18:40] <bnason> this is the error im getting, g++-4.6.real: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
[18:41] <bnason> znc
[18:41] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: there is a backup of the package-database
[18:41] <bnason> i have some custom modifications to znc's logging that I need
[18:41] <cornfeedhobo> bnason: znc is rather small
[18:41] <ikonia> bnason: I think there is znc in the ubuntu repos
[18:41] <ikonia> you will certainly have enough memory to build it
[18:41] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot of the info dir?
[18:41] <bnason> hrm, well im getting "g++-4.6.real: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)" heh
[18:41] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: ah
[18:42] <bnason> let me monitor memory consumption when its going
[18:42] <ikonia> bnason: what is cc1plus ?
[18:42] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you removed all the postrm, postins files and so on
[18:42] <ikonia> bnason: there is no reason to suggest that is a memory problem at all
[18:42] <bnason> ikonia, c++ compiler
[18:42] <ikonia> bnason: where did you get it ?
[18:42] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot the info dir and it's contents
[18:42] <bnason> its aprt of gcc
[18:42] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: reinstall
[18:42] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: and dont use sudo rm when you dont know what you are doing
[18:42] <ikonia> bnason: not showing up on my systems gcc pckage list
[18:43] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot it was a typo ok
[18:43] <verysoftoiletppr> irrelevant
[18:43] <verysoftoiletppr> reinstalling will be a huge pain, because I have non-trivial programs and configurations in place
[18:43] <verysoftoiletppr> isn't there a way of reinstalling libc6?
[18:43] <bnason> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/cc1plus
[18:44] <bnason> its up to 79.8% memory and cache is at like 100% lol
[18:44] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: your complete postins/preinst/postrms/prerms are missing
[18:44] <cornfeedhobo> lol
[18:44] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you removed everything
[18:44] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: and the package-database is lost
[18:44] <ikonia> bnason: tht's fine, it should use all of the memory it can
[18:45] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot I've reinstalled almost every package I had installed
[18:45] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: how you know what was installed when the package-database is lost?
[18:45] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: make a backup of your config, reinstall and in the future make a backup of important configs
[18:46] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: and dont use sudo rm (normally you will never need sudo rm and specially with -rf)
[18:46] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot *normally*
[18:47] <verysoftoiletppr> it wasn't a normal case obviously
[18:47] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: i dont know a single useful usecase where you need sudo rm
[18:47] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: what was the case then /
[18:47] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: why did you need to do sudo rm -rf
[18:47] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot how do you delete files owned by root?
[18:47] <bnason> ikonia, in dmesg, "Out of memory: Kill process 11024 (cc1plus) score 617 or sacrifice child"
[18:47] <ikonia> bnason: that's interesting
[18:47] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: files shouldn't be owned by root
[18:47] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: that's why the root user is locked
[18:47] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia iceroot I installed a program from source
[18:47] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: because you will never use the root account for normal work there are no root files you have to delete
[18:47] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: so ?
[18:48] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: you again should not be creating files as root
[18:48] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia I followed the build instructions
[18:48] <ikonia> bnason: looks like you where right
[18:48] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: then you followed very bad instructions
[18:48] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Source
[18:48] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia sorry http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Source#BuildingandInstalling
[18:48] <iceroot> deluge - bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK
[18:49] <iceroot> that?
[18:49] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: no-where in there does it say use root
[18:49] <iceroot> that package is in the repos
[18:49] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia sudo python setup.py install_data
[18:49] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: that package is in the repos
[18:49] <bnason> ok added more swap, lets see if that helps
[18:49] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot there is a reason I was installing from source
[18:49] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: bad
[18:50] <verysoftoiletppr> ikonia what?
[18:50] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: bad instructions
[18:50] <DogLover> Hi all!
[18:50] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: bottom line is - you need a sane system, re-install and be more careful
[18:50] <verysoftoiletppr> [18:49:03] <ikonia> verysoftoiletppr: no-where in there does it say use root <--- but it says there
[18:51] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: i would never use a software which will interacte with 1000 of tcp connections directly with my system from source because i will not get security updates
[18:51] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot I wasn't using, just testing
[18:51] <verysoftoiletppr> but thanks for the tip
[18:52] <DogLover> I have a Compaq NC6220 with Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit installed. Audio plays through both the laptops speakers and the headphones at the same time. How can I fix this?
[18:53] <selena2013> take out headphone plug half way
[18:54] <Sadlymistaken> Hello everybody. I have a weird problem, my ethernet conexion is named eth0, but my wifi conection is called eth1 instead of wlan0, why is this happening?
[18:54] <skate> i had the same problem Dog
[18:55] <skate> i installed GNOME ALAS mixxer
[18:55] <skate> i was able to turn the speakers off and leave mater volume up
[18:56] <skate> master volume up to work the ear phones only
[18:56] <stiltzkin> Hi folks, I have a very specific question I'm hoping someone might be able to answer - particularly if you have an older Radeon video card. Does anyone know if this patch allows OpenCL to work as well as the fglrx driver? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/993427
[18:58] <stiltzkin> Or for that matter, does anyone have OpenCL working on their Ubuntu install with the legacy Catalyst drivers, and if so, what is your kernel version?
[18:58] <Sadlymistaken> You must go to ALSa an tick: Headphone Jack Sense
[18:59] <Sadlymistaken> Doglover Headphone Jack Sense had to be checked
[18:59] <DogLover> I will check Alsa out
[19:00] <Sadlymistaken> DogLover: ok, tell me if it works
[19:00] <DogLover> Does Alsa remember its settings when you shutdown and reboot?
[19:00] <verysoftoiletppr> [18:45:20] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: how you know what was installed when the package-database is lost? <--- dpkg -l | grep ii
[19:02] <tama_> Hello all. I have two computers, and one modem. one of the computers have 2 lan cards. one is hooked to modem (192.168.1.100) and the other one is hooked to the 2nd computer (192.168.0.1). The 2 lan card computer now is a router. I've installed samba, but each computer can't see each other's shared folder. What I'm missing?
[19:03] <nmittal> hello ppl.. so I just install 12.10 and unlucky enough to hit the xorg bug mentioned here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1068920 .. there is a patch suggested there.. question is how do i apply the patch..
[19:03] <ikonia> tama_: they are on different networks
[19:04] <tama_> ikonia what should I do? plug out one of the cable?
[19:04] <ikonia> tama_: how is unplugging a cable going to put them on the same network ?
[19:05] <tama_> ikonia dunno. I just have no idea how. I want they can share internet connection but at the same time can use samba.
[19:05] <ikonia> tama_: they need to be in the same network subnet
[19:06] <tama_> ikonia what is subnet? netmask?
[19:06] <ikonia> tama_: 4 network parts to an ip address
[19:06] <nkosis> Hi there, i need some help and i know is something easy but i am a noob
[19:06] <ikonia> tama_: each one is a segment
[19:07] <nokia> n
[19:07] <nkosis> what is the command to update an Online game in Ubuntu using the program Wine
[19:07] <ikonia> tama_: each segment that is different will need to be routed, (basic way of explaining it)
[19:07] <ikonia> tama_: so you need to have them on the same network - with only the last segment different
[19:08] <nkosis> could someone help? i do not know the command
[19:08] <nkosis> i have to update an online game that i run thru Wine but i do not know the command!
[19:08] <tama_> ikonia but one of the ip adress of this 2 lan card computer have the same 3 first part of IP with the other computer.
[19:09] <stiltzkin> nkosis, I'm pretty sure it depends on the game, there isn't one universal WINE command to run an update
[19:09] <ikonia> tama_: they don't
[19:09] <tama_> ikonia doesn't that means they are on the same subnet?
[19:09] <ikonia> tama_: re-read what you pasted
[19:09] <DogLover> ok that works now! Thanks a lot!!!!
[19:09] <nkosis> The game is Eve Online, and i run it thru wine, but now when opening the game, needs to be updated manually how do i do it?
[19:10] <tama_> ikonia so I should stop using the 2 lan card computer as a router?
[19:10] <nkosis> i tried "sudo apt-get update eve.exe"
[19:10] <nkosis> didnt work
[19:10] <ikonia> nkosis: that will not work
[19:10] <stiltzkin> nkosis, check the WineHQ page on Eve to see how other people have updated: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25823
[19:10] <ikonia> nkosis: apt-get is nothing to do with wine
[19:10] <ikonia> tama_: just approach it logcially
[19:10] <tama_> but then is there another way I can share the internet between the computers?
[19:11] <ikonia> tama_: you need computer a and b to be on the same network - if another computer needs another interface, that's fine and not a problem, but it must not be the routable interface for the other computer
[19:11] <nkosis> stiltzkin thanks for your help, let me have a look at it
[19:13] <stiltzkin> nkosis, protip though: don't ask for wine support here, this channel is just for Ubuntu. Try asking in #winehq if your problem isn't solved by the posts on the HQ site.
[19:14] <nkosis> will do, and sorry for bothering you guys
[19:14] <tama_> ikonia I am sorry I still can't understand that. Care to explain it a bit more?
[19:14] <nkosis> now i know where to go.
[19:14] <nkosis> many thanks
[19:14] <stiltzkin> nkosis, no bother :)
[19:15] <nexusIL> Hi, I've updated mint and now It hangs on blinkin cursor with black screen. I've accessed in safe mode and tried to remove AMD driver. it remains the same and suggestion please.
[19:15] <nexusIL> any*
[19:15] <JugglerLKR> hello! are there gnu "screen" gurus?
[19:15] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: I dabble
[19:16] <stiltzkin> So no AMDbros in here with older cards? Anyone with a 3xxx/4xxx series card running OpenCL? I'm planning on installing 12.04 now, to be on the safe side.
[19:16] <JugglerLKR> I can't resume screen session with proper encoding
[19:16] <Pici> nexusIL: we do not support mint here.
[19:16] <Pici> !mintsupport | nexusIL
[19:16] <nexusIL> K thanks
[19:16] <yash> how can i add themes to my 12.04 ????
[19:16] <JugglerLKR> while in "do-release-upgrade"
[19:17] <yash> heloo can anyone hear me?
[19:18] <holstein> yash: i just search the package manager and install them, and go apply them
[19:18] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: what is the 'proper encoding', utf8?
[19:19] <jali_f> jbroome: http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html
[19:19] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: session was in utf8
[19:20] <Edmond> im a newbie on ubuntu
[19:20] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: now when I try to resume it I can't input non-latin chars
[19:20] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: and your original session was opened with screen -U ?
[19:20] <jali_f> jbroome: oops wrong channel
[19:20] <Edmond> pinguyOS dont need update like windows?
[19:20] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: it was opened by "do-release-upgrade"
[19:20] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: don't know with -U or not
[19:21] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: ah, i have no idea what that uses
[19:21] <llutz> hrm, is it correct that 12.10s grub-menu is hidden by default (on a single boot installation) but will be shown and is not hideable anymore if you dual-boot?
[19:21] <fidel> Edmond: this is the ubuntu channel - other distributionsarent supported here
[19:21] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: now it shows "?????????? [??]  ??????????? [?]"
[19:21] <JugglerLKR> jbroome : and I can't input answer
[19:22] <Novus> hey I need some advice from a serious computer guru
[19:22] <Novus> I have a question that's really hard to answer
[19:23] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: There is a screen on:
[19:23] <JugglerLKR> 1998.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window       (05.03.2013 15:21:44)  (Attached)
[19:23] <JugglerLKR> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[19:23] <fidel> !ask | Novus
[19:23] <holstein> Novus: just ask, and maybe a volunteer can help you
[19:23] <Edmond> Fidel:  pinguy is based on ubuntu, i cant ask about pinguy OS
[19:24] <k1l_> Edmond: please see pinguyOS support. it is listed on their page where to find
[19:24] <holstein> Edmond: they should have their own support.. maybe even on freenode irc
[19:25] <Novus> I am looking for a prototype PCI serial card that can monitor inputs and outputs and the data can be altered by code before it's gone back out and also would support a GUI operation to adjust variables in the code on the fly
[19:25] <Novus> inputs would be voltage levels
[19:25] <holstein> Novus: i would go to a hardware channel
[19:25] <Novus> room?
[19:26] <holstein> Novus: room, channel.. whatever you want to refer to them as
[19:26] <Edmond> okk thanks, can you guys tell me the difference between ubuntu and pinguy...
[19:26] <Edmond> why do you guys like ubuntu better
[19:26] <IdleOne> !polls
[19:27] <holstein> Edmond: there is no "better".. this is the official ubuntu support channel, and we dont (cant) support all the spin-offs here
[19:28] <sicko> hello
[19:30] <Edmond> holstein: thanks..
[19:31] <Edmond> is there someone that can tell me the difference between ubuntu and pinguyOS
[19:31] <elisa87> how can I install matplot? (I tried the gitclone method and then python ... it didn't work) "ImportError: No module named matplotlib"
[19:32] <holstein> Edmond: the creators of pinguyOS can
[19:32] <Taev> my Ubuntu boot up keeps halting at "the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present"
[19:32] <Taev> no matter what i do, nothing happens and it hangs
[19:32] <Edmond> im new to linux so i want to know what OS i better for newbies
[19:33] <Taev> i really don't want to have to format and reinstall
[19:33] <sicko> Is arch linux hard to install if you´re a noob? i like the interface..
[19:33] <theprogrammer> in my system ubuntu has suddenly stopped detecting the custom key shortcuts
[19:33] <holstein> Edmond: "better" is a matter of opinion.. most linux os distros provide a live CD where you can easily check them out first beore installing.. try ubuntu live and xubuntu.. lubuntu.. etc
[19:34] <theprogrammer> as well as the volume keys are notworking
[19:34] <k1l_> sicko: ask the arch support.
[19:34] <Taev> i also keep getting fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed, under the recovery mode
[19:34] <holstein> theprogrammer: i would just logout and backin and test.. try as another user and go from there
[19:35] <penth> For the second time in a week, all my menus are appearing behind windows (global, right-click, chrome bookmarks et al.). Has anyone else seen this in 12.04? I didn't find a bug listing yet
[19:35] <Edmond> holstein: thanks that was the info i needed.
[19:36] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: i wonder if you can specify -U / utf8 in the /etc/screenrc file for do-release-upgrade to pickup?
[19:36] <theprogrammer> @holstein : i havetried loggin out, from another user, changing them in config files
[19:36] <theprogrammer> but nothing works
[19:37] <BluesKaj> sicko, arch uses a command line interface to install and there are approximatley 25or so steps , for a new linux user it can be duanting altho there are several tutorials you follow if you research
[19:37] <holstein> theprogrammer: it doesnt work as expected as another user?
[19:37] <Taev> well i guess ill format and reinstall
[19:37] <Taev> fun fun
[19:37] <theprogrammer> they dont work at all
[19:38] <holstein> theprogrammer: they, being the shortcuts and hotkeys? dont work in a newly created user account?
[19:38] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: thanx - trying now
[19:38] <theprogrammer> i open the keyboard shortcuts, select the voulme up, select the key on keyboard, it is assigned successfully, but the event is not triggered later at all
[19:38] <theprogrammer> holstein: nope
[19:39] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: -U didn't help
[19:39] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: i'm not sure if sticking a -U in the screenrc file is the correct syntax for that file
[19:40] <holstein> theprogrammer: then, i would try looking at what recently got upgraded..
[19:40] <theprogrammer> holstein: the problem persists since long time..
[19:41] <penth> theprogrammer, do you have a Logitech G-series keyboard?
[19:41] <theprogrammer> it seems that my system is raeading keyboard keys in wrong way, as in it should say XF86VoulmeUp bu it just says VolumeUp
[19:42] <theprogrammer> penth: nope, it is laptop integrated keyboard
[19:43] <penth> Has anyone else had problems with Unity displaying menus behind the windows?
[19:43] <theprogrammer> holstein: the play, pause, next prev keys work absolutely fine
[19:43] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: defutf8 on in screenrc didn't help either
[19:46] <penth> http://askubuntu.com/questions/181341/how-do-i-set-a-custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-control-volume
[19:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way, on a multi-boot linux system, to hide the / partitions of the other os's from each other, so nautilus ect is not cluttered?
[19:48] <levo> "at" command doesn't work properly. why is that? (precise LTS)
[19:49] <penth> echo "foo" |at 1450
[19:49] <PlastikSpork> I am looking for a WiFi scanner/analyzer. I was using inSSIDer for Windows, but their version of for Linux is in beta. Could anyone give me some suggestions of what they use?
[19:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: for what purpose?
[19:49] <maveas> PlastikSpork: kismet, aircrack-ng etc.
[19:50] <PlastikSpork> I want a graphical user interface.. I've used aircrack before but its all text
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: if that is what you are looking into, just install backtrack. why try to remake it from ubuntu? backtrack is based on ubuntu
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: backtrack 5 r3 has various graphical front-tnds for its tools
[19:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: but in all honestly if you can't do it from terminal you have little business fiddling with it
[19:52] <PlastikSpork> ntzrmtthihu777 I've used backtrack before but my purpose is not to hack wifi networks... I want a tool to scan to see which channel to use best
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: bt5 has stuff for that. hell use wicd if you gotta
[19:54] <PlastikSpork> ntzrmtthihu777:  thanks for the suggestions.
[19:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> PlastikSpork: no prob
[19:57] <bnason> Ive added my /6 ip6 to my eth0, but I can't seem to bind to any specific address. What am i doing wrong?
[19:57] <bnason> or how do I add just a single address out of that?
[19:59] <alainus> how do i resize my ubuntu partition ?  i'm getting the "Resize/Move" option in gparted as disabled .. this is my setup http://screencloud.net/v/gKwk
[20:00] <alainus> can i just unmount it ?
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> alainus: you cannot use gparted on the booted system, you will have to boot a live cd/usb
[20:00] <elisa87> how can I save the document in visudo ??
[20:00] <DJones> alainus: Obvious question, but are you using a livecd/usb, you can't change mounted partitions
[20:01] <alainus> ah. but i plan to install ubuntu again from the minimal cd... can i choose to enlarge the main partition then ?
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> alainus: I usually go for a 16gb /, as much swap as I feel is needed, and the rest as /home
[20:03] <leshaste> I get this error a lot
[20:03] <leshaste> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r600.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:03] <leshaste> but I have no idea where it is coming from
[20:03] <leshaste> any ideas?
[20:03] <tech1_> where does the error come up?
[20:03] <tech1_> terminal?
[20:03] <leshaste> in a terminal
[20:03] <leshaste> yes
[20:03] <lnxslck> leshaste, i think it has to do with graphic card
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: it cannot find the right librarry, you should likely install libvdpau* somethin or another
[20:04] <leshaste> ntzrmtthihu777, ok.. silly it doesn't name the applicaiton in the error message
[20:04] <leshaste> that would seem a no brainer to me
[20:04] <leshaste> :)
[20:05] <elisa87> "Gtk couldn't be initialized" matplotlib
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: yeah, just gotta follow the breadcrumbs
[20:05] <leshaste> :)
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> warning to all ubuntu users: never let your machine shutdown during an update. I got mine running again, but it removed 300+ packages in the process
[20:06] <LaserShark> ouch
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> LaserShark: lucky for me it was a new install
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> so I can just re-install, as I have a separate /home
[20:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> gotta head home, brb in an hour or so
[20:08] <elixir> Hello eveyone. I am copying a folder of around 26gb from d: to /home and getting a file transfer speed of aroung 600 kbps (started with around 8 mbps). is it usual or can i increase it somways out?
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> elixir: at times fast is not good, errors can occur
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> elixir: sometimes things are slow for the sake of safety, "being careful"
[20:09] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777: agreed :) but right now 600kbps only :(
[20:10] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777: thats quite convincing. :)
[20:10] <iceroot> elixir: samba? local mount? different hdds? what load? (top)?
[20:10] <iceroot> elixir: we need more useful infos
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> elixir: I use dd alot for copying, and I always set it for a slower speed on important things
[20:11] <beboj> how to stop firefox from upgrading ?
[20:11] <iceroot> beboj: firefox itself (from the repos) will not update itself
[20:11] <iceroot> beboj: that is part of the software-center
[20:12] <elixir> iceroot: Yes local mount. Copying from D:/ (mounted) to my home folder. What is load(top) and samba?
[20:12] <iceroot> elixir: top will show you all your processes and the cpu load
[20:12] <iceroot> elixir: its a terminal command
[20:12] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777: possible that i am getting such low speed for the first time, so was pretty shocked.
[20:12] <iceroot> elixir: is your home-folder encrypted?
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> wow, lost software center in that fiasco
[20:13] <iceroot> elixir: there can be so many reasons why it is that slow
[20:13] <Jordan_U> elixir: We don't use "Drive letters" in GNU/linux. What is "D:/"? Is it a partition on a flash drive? What type of media is your /home/ on? What filesystem?
[20:14] <demonoid_com> hello world
[20:14] <demonoid_com> "_
[20:14] <demonoid_com> :)
[20:14] <beboj> iceroot so you say I can fix it via aptitude?
[20:14] <elixir> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/xxDkG677. hope it helps.
[20:15] <iceroot> beboj: you dont want to disable updates for your browser
[20:15] <iceroot> beboj: because these updates are security updates
[20:15] <elisa87> Doesn't anyone know how I can save visudo if I have opened it using gksudo visudo??
[20:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: can you hide a filesystem from a certain boot? say I have precise and mint on two separate / partitions, can I hide mint's / from precise and vice versa?
[20:15] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: only with encryption
[20:16] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: everything else can be mounted
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: I dont think you shoulda used gksudo for visudo
[20:16] <elixir> Jordan_U: Ok, i'll take care of it in future, yes it is a seperate partition. (I've installed my ubuntu in a seperate dedicated partition). I am on /home
[20:16] <demonoid_com> i have 1 TB HDD  i5-3570k 8GB 1600Mhz with ubuntu 12.04 server and if somebody wanna account or testing somthing msg me
[20:16] <elisa87> ntzrmtthihu777: so what should I use for editing visudo?
[20:16] <elixir> Jordan_U: how do i check filesyaytem ? Its a frequent question I come across.
[20:17] <iceroot> elixir: you have an ntfs mount and reading files from the hdd and also you want to write data to the hdd, that will make is slower
[20:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: I just don't want said partitions to show up in my file managers, etc
[20:17] <Jordan_U> elisa87: What text editor did visudo start? (The default in Ubuntu is nano)
[20:17] <iceroot> elixir: i would say 600KByte/s is slow but i dont think that it is worth to debug it further
[20:17] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: dont mount them
[20:17] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: then they are not shown
[20:18] <elisa87> Jordan_U: I don't know!
[20:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: I dont mount them
[20:18] <elixir> iceroot: ohh ! ok. not an issue then !
[20:18] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: have a look at /etc/fstab if they are mounted there, if not have a look at the gnome automounter and tell it to not mount them automaticly
[20:18] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Two possible ways are to run "mount" which lists all mounted filesystems with information about each, and "sudo blkid" which lists information about all filesystems that can be detected (mounted or not).
[20:18] <Jordan_U> elixir: ^
[20:18] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Sorry, my last comment wasn't meant for you :)
[20:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: I know what's in fstab, I set it myself. how do I check gnome-automounter?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Did you run "gksudo visudo" in a terminal or from a run dialog or similar?
[20:20] <elixir> Jordan_U: what type of filesystem is fuseblk?
[20:20] <Fleuv> Hello, how can i check if my ubuntu 12.04 lts server it's network is correctly configured?
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: hit escape, then type :w enter
[20:21] <elisa87> from terminal
[20:21] <demonoid_com> èìà ëè áúëãàðè òóêà :Ä
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: from inside of visudo, it says insert at the bottom, righty?
[20:21] <elisa87> is there any other way for editing visudo rather than gksudo?
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: use sudo visudo
[20:22] <llutz> elixir:  fuse, like ntfs-3g etc.
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> then press ctrl+x
[20:22] <elisa87> ntzrmtthihu777:  sudo visudo
[20:22] <elisa87> visudo: /etc/sudoers busy, try again later
[20:22] <elixir> llutz: thanks, heard of it for the first tim. :)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> elisa87: First of all, you're not "editing visudo" you're editing /etc/sudoers using the utility "visudo". And frankly, from your questions you probably shouldn't be editing /etc/sudoers at all. What is your end goal?
[20:22] <elixir> *time
[20:23] <Fleuv> hello, where can i find a beginners guide?
[20:23] <stiltzkin> Hi folks - is anyone here good with GRUB and willing to help me with a reinstall? I've just installed Ubuntu alongside an existing Linux system and I believe I need to chainload another instance of GRUB
[20:23] <elisa87> it's not working
[20:23] <guideX> I have an ubuntu virtualbox vm serving an apache2 virtual host, so when I'm in the vm, I can type dev.mysite.com in the browser and hit it that way, any idea how I can hit the site outside the vm in the windows host?
[20:23] <jjore> Is there a preference for disabling the "Overlay" scrollbars? The widget always seems to pop-up over the end of a window when I want to resize it or when I want to click into the trough like in Eclipse.
[20:23] <elisa87> I want to create a user!
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: damn, do you have another editor open?
[20:23] <OerHeks> Fleuv, http://ubuntu-manual.org/  and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ is a good start
[20:23] <elisa87> it's ok
[20:23] <stiltzkin> This is due to the fact that the existing Linux install is encrypted and resides inside an LVM group.
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> jjore: sudo apt-get remove overlay<tab>
[20:23] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: What is the other GNU/Linux system? Is it listed if you run "sudo os-prober"?
[20:24] <elisa87> but ctrl+x didn't work using sudo visudo
[20:24] <jjore> ntzrmtthihu777++
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> elisa87: what do you see at the bottob of the vsudo screen?
[20:24] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Presumably it has an unencrypted /boot/ though, correct?
[20:24] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, It's a Fedora system. I'm running into problems because it's inside a LVM group. It has a separate /boot partition on /dev/sda3
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> jjore: I frakken hate those things
[20:24] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, correct
[20:24] <elixir>  Also on my terminal, it is by default written: "elixir@elixir" : Is there a way to change it (username and computername) ?
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> elixir: yes, not sure how. you have to edit the hosts files to change the pc name, google it a bit
[20:25] <cat_five> hi, i have an ubuntu lamp server that's crashing and was hoping someone could help me diagnose why
[20:25] <KI4RO> Fleuv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ but why can't you use google like I just did
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ubuntu-server > ntzrmtthihu777
[20:26] <leshaste> is there something that tags mp3s based on the audio contents?
[20:26] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777: okay !
[20:26] <elisa87> [ESC ^X unbound] ntzrmtthihu777
[20:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> hit escape, what now?
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: yeah, but I find that most linux audio taggers wreck them.
[20:27] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks :) otherwise if anyone sure of it, please guide.
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: I use Mp3tag under wine
[20:27] <dendazen> useradd -m -s /bin/bash {user1,user2,user3} Will this work?
[20:27] <Fleuv> KI4RO sorry my i didn't explain my question correctly: Where can I find a good CLI-only! ubuntu 12.04 lts server beginner guide
[20:27] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I've tried doing "mount /dev/mapper/blah blah blah /mnt", then "mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/boot" and then "grub-install --recheck --root-directory /mnt /dev/sda," but that has not worked. It installs but then when I reboot I just get a plain GRUB prompt, no menu
[20:27] <leshaste> picard?
[20:27] <demonoid_com> Pls help when i type lsb_realese i have a problem
[20:27] <demonoid_com> No LSB modules are available.
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> lehmae: I thinks so
[20:28] <Pici> demonoid_com: Thats normal. type lsb_release -a
[20:28] <demonoid_com> Pici ohhh yes 10x
[20:29] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Create a file /boot/grub/custom.cfg with the contents: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5588698/
[20:29] <g_byers> if any of you care you can see my initial impressions of ubuntu on the Nexus 4: http://www.geordienorman.com/initial-impressions-of-ubuntu-on-nexus-4/
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: I keep all my music arranged as ~/Artist/Album (year)/01. track.mp3, and mp3tag can tag based on the dir structure, so it works very well
[20:30] <leshaste> ntzrmtthihu777, does it do content based tagging?
[20:30] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, okay, that sounds good...but how can I install GRUB to detect only Ubuntu again? I'm assuming I do a grub-install with the root directory of /, where I installed Ubuntu?
[20:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: as in based on how the music sounds?
[20:30] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: That's because Fedora modifies grub to use "/boot/grub2/" rather than "/boot/grub/" so when you install grub from Ubuntu it won't find and use the /boot/grub2/grub.cfg that Fedora produced.
[20:30] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, ahhhhhhhhh OK
[20:30] <leshaste> ntzrmtthihu777, no.. picard does it :)
[20:30] <leshaste> audio fingerprinting
[20:31] <leshaste> it looks up the track basically
[20:31] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Correct (though --root-directory is deprecated in favor of --boot-directory in newer versions of grub).
[20:31] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, so the commands I issued were correct? I'm just confused why I get no menu entries then, I would expect to get Ubuntu only, and no Fedora
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: so would makeing a /boot/grub/ dir with a symlink to the grub2/grub.cfg would do it?
[20:31] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, instead I get no menu at all
[20:31] <elisa87> how can I add a user without editing visudo?? it's taking forever to learn how to save sth in visudo and apparently no one knows here!
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> when I did visudo it brought up nano
[20:32] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, nevermind, that was a dumb question. I get what you're saying.
[20:32] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes, but I'd consider it an ugly work around that would likely lead to confusion in the future.
[20:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> nano saves with ctrl+x
[20:32] <lnxslck> elisa87, visudo is for adding users special permissions
[20:32] <elisa87> is there any other way?
[20:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[20:33] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Just use gnome-control-center's user creation and modification tool.
[20:34] <elixir> ntzrmtthihu777, Jordan_U, iceroot: the speed decreased till 400 kbps and is going on decreasing, should I just let it do its own way?
[20:34] <elisa87> how can I go to "Go into gnome-control-center user accounts"?
[20:35] <Jordan_U> elisa87: If you're using Unity, then in the search entry in the dash type "add user". Then click on "User Accounts".
[20:36] <buffymcmuffy> I have somehow removed the workspace switcher from the unity bar. How do I put it back?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "mount".
[20:36] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, what's the easiest way to find the UUID of my fedora install? If I do fdisk -l it shows "/dev/mapper/udisk-luks-uuid-xxxxxxxxxx-uid999," is that what I want?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: No, that's the LUKS UUID of your encrypted root filesystem. "sudo blkid" should show you the filesystem UUID of your /boot/ partition.
[20:37] <elisa87> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588717/
[20:37] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, thanks :)
[20:37] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: You're welcome.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> elisa87: The reason that copying is so slow is that your home directory is being mounted via a network filesystem.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Any copy to your home directory will only be as fast as your internet connection.
[20:39] <levo> after I send a process to the background like "gedit &" and when after executing I close the terminal window , gedit will close either. how to prevent it?
[20:40] <jrib> levo: use "gedit & disown", or use "nohup gedit", or use screen or tmux
[20:41] <levo> jrib: thanks
[20:41] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Do you understand?
[20:42] <buffymcmuffy> I have somehow removed the workspace switcher from the unity bar. How do I put it back?
[20:42] <Jordan_U> elisa87: The reason that it appeared to be going faster initially is that the writes were being cached in RAM, so until the cache filled up the copy appeared to be going as fast as you could read from the source, even though you weren't writing to the destination that fast.
[20:43] <elisa87> Jordan_U: is there any fix to that?
[20:44] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Do you undestand what I'm saying about your home directory being a networked filesystem?
[20:46] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, one more question - where am I adding this menu entry - directly to my grub.cfg? It says not to edit the file directly but I assume this is fine.
[20:47] <Trudko> guys i tried to install rvm on ubuntu 12.10 but i am getting error( sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm )Unable to locate package ruby-rvm
[20:50] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, nevermind, rebooting. Keeping my fingers crossed :)
[20:52] <Ice_Strike> Does Ubunu use GRUB  or Lilo?
[20:53] <llutz> Ice_Strike: grub2 by default
[20:53] <nearst> sup ppl
[20:54] <havok> when I'm looking to install wine, The closest i can find in the software center is Microsoft windows Compat. Layer (meta pack) Is this wine?
[20:54] <obert> hello, how to upgrade to 12.10 please?
[20:55] <nearst> do-release-upgrade
[20:55] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, worked perfectly, thanks very much for your help :)
[20:55] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: You're welcome :)
[20:55] <stiltzkin> that was much easier than expected haha
[20:55] <stiltzkin> cheers.
[20:55] <obert> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wont show me any updates
[20:57] <obert> nearst: if i launch that command my pc will explode?
[20:57] <obert> i am scared to try to do anything
[20:57] <havok> when I'm looking to install wine, The closest i can find in the software center is Microsoft windows Compat. Layer (meta pack) Is this wine?
[20:57] <nearst> obert, nope. it will handle release upgrade with very nice
[20:57] <obert> hmm i hope then
[20:57] <obert> hehe sorry eh ;)
[20:58] <obert> 'no release found'
[20:58] <Dennis_> sup players
[20:58] <nearst> obert, try look at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:59] <obert> nearst: i do lsb_release -idrc and i see Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[21:00] <uisbubsod>  how to set up conky to execute at startup?
[21:00] <uisbubsod>  how to set up conky to execute at startup?
[21:00] <uisbubsod>  how to set up conky to execute at startup?
[21:00] <FloodBot1> uisbubsod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <nearst> obert, if u wanna upgrade to 12.10, change lts to normal
[21:00] <Dennis_> damn son, they really don't want no flooding
[21:01] <obert> nearst: its == ?
[21:01] <nearst> obert, if u wanna handle normal release instead lts, then do normal release upgrade 0,0
[21:01] <auronandace> obert: lts = long term support
[21:01] <art_> ok... so I broke something again... tried turning off the admin PW so I didn't have to put it in everytime I install something... now it's still asking for the pw but won't accept a blank field... grrr
[21:02] <nearst> lts = likely to support
[21:02] <nearst> hihi
[21:02] <nearst> !sudo | art_
[21:02] <obert> no idea what i have to do sorry, i never had done things like this. be patience please
[21:04] <nearst> obert, nvm. precise is run well tbh. unless ure looking for bleeding edge bug hunter or eye candy
[21:04] <obert> ...
[21:04] <art_> what if grub has been somehow uninstalled too :(
[21:04] <art_> so no recovery
[21:04] <obert> i am lost already then, sorry.
[21:04] <ruud> art_, live cd?
[21:05] <nearst> !lts | obert
[21:05] <art_> ruud yes
[21:05] <ruud> art_:got into the conversation a bit late, whats the problem?
[21:06] <suore> Hello, anyone know how to run google-chrome in other locate/language(OSD) without relogin with other language?
[21:07] <auronandace> art_: disabling the password for sudo is a very very bad idea
[21:08] <obert> hehe too many things to know.
[21:08] <art_> hehe... I know this now... :(
[21:09] <obert> i will retry tomorrow i assume, thanks for now
[21:09] <art_> it's my home computer, no one else touches.... except all the hackers on the planet that want to mess with it... :(
[21:10] <art_> <--- doesn't think things through very well
[21:10] <obert> better to documenting a bit more
[21:11] <ModusPwnens> can someone explain to me how to make application shortcuts actually work and not get eaten up by the ubuntu OS?
[21:11] <ModusPwnens> pressing F5 never refreshes anything and instead does some system thing with the keyboard
[21:11] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: I'm sorry, i'm tapped out.
[21:11] <ModusPwnens> similarly, F2 never renames any files/folders. Instead, it just changes screen brightness
[21:12] <ruud> ModusPwnens, mac ?
[21:12] <nsahoo> what is the most stable version of nvidia driver to install on ubuntu 12.04.2? I had repeated problem with 304 and 310, so I am using noveau now
[21:12] <ModusPwnens> no, this is on PC
[21:12] <jbroome> JugglerLKR: what if you take screen out of .bash_whatever so it doesn't auto start?  Admittedly, i haven't touched a new ubuntu in a while
[21:12] <ModusPwnens> ubuntu version 12.04
[21:12] <skate> was
[21:13] <jacklk> Is Ubuntu just for computer geeks or do any normal people use it too?
[21:13] <ModusPwnens> its as if there is some FN key perpetually pushed down
[21:13] <auronandace> nsahoo: why not just stick with nouveau?
[21:13] <auronandace> jacklk: define normal
[21:13] <clandestine> saindo
[21:13] <clandestine> tbm
[21:13] <nearst> im use ubuntu bcoz i dont know how to use windows
[21:14] <nsahoo> auronandace: though, i like it for stability, on a dual monitor setup some part of the maximized windows are drawing slowly when I quickly switch from one tab to another. Particularly in mysql workbench
[21:16] <ModusPwnens> i notice that its just this particular keyboard that is causing this problem. Ive i use a different keyboard, application shortcuts actually work
[21:16] <jacklk> auronandace: 18 year old who likes watching videos, and works in a shop for example but uses it for home use
[21:17] <auronandace> jacklk: then yes, "normal people" use ubuntu
[21:21] <matthew> Hi
[21:21] <Guest61087> HI
[21:22] <John12109> as the ubuntu mobile out yet for android?
[21:23] <auronandace> !phone | John12109
[21:23] <JugglerLKR> jbroome: actually i want to resume do-release-upgrade
[21:23] <Guest61087> I've got a problem, in that, I have a openvz server on the web and I can't seem to 'su' to any user, with the error 'su: Authentication failure'. I have changed the password several times, for root and the other users that I have tried 'su'ing to, but not luck
[21:24] <John12109> ok
[21:24] <John12109> i need to find a software to intall it
[21:26] <Ice_Strike> Will Ubunto work if I downgrade kernal 3.4.26 ?
[21:27] <bean|work> Ice_Strike: ubuntu should work no matter what kernel you're on
[21:28] <kbk> 4nn4rbor
[21:28] <Ice_Strike> bean|work How do I downgrade it? Currently on 3.5.x now
[21:28] <bean|work> Ice_Strike: do you have an old one installed
[21:29] <tortik> hi all
[21:29] <tortik> is any software for renaming mp3 files by info exctracted from id3 tag?
[21:29] <Guest88630> Guest88630 here. Someday I will learn.
[21:29] <matthew_> Hi
[21:29] <Ice_Strike> bean|work No
[21:29] <Ice_Strike> This is fresh Ubunto install
[21:30] <bean|work> Ice_Strike: the name is Ubuntu...
[21:30] <Ice_Strike> Oop :P
[21:30] <verysoftoiletppr> how can I reinstall libc6?
[21:30] <bean|work> Ice_Strike: and why do you need an old kernel.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> verysoftoiletppr: Why do you ask?
[21:31] <verysoftoiletppr> Jeepbeats I deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info
[21:31] <verysoftoiletppr> Jordan_U I deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info
[21:31] <verysoftoiletppr> I need to restore it
[21:31] <jacklk>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
[21:31] <verysoftoiletppr> the only package missing information now is libc6
[21:32] <Pici> verysoftoiletppr: We told you to reinstall last time you were here.
[21:32] <verysoftoiletppr> Pici I know
[21:32] <verysoftoiletppr> that is not good enough
[21:33] <verysoftoiletppr> Pici what I really want it to reinstall libc6
[21:33] <jacklk> verysoftoiletppr: install libc7
[21:33] <verysoftoiletppr> jacklk can that be used as replacement for libc6?
[21:33] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6
[21:34] <jacklk> verysoftoiletppr: yes it is just newer
[21:34] <auronandace> !joke
[21:34] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst that doesn't work
[21:34] <jacklk> verysoftoiletppr: what do you need it for anyway?
[21:34] <verysoftoiletppr> jacklk you are right, I will just delete it..
[21:34] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, try remove purge then install it back
[21:34] <verysoftoiletppr> I don't need it anyway
[21:35] <jacklk> verysoftoiletppr: exactly
[21:35] <jacklk> I never have to worry about packages like that..
[21:35] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst can't remove it
[21:35] <jacklk> verysoftoiletppr: purge?
[21:35] <verysoftoiletppr> if I remove it nothing will work
[21:36] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, why cant remove ? compile from binary ? dpkg -l | grep libc6
[21:36] <jacklk> well keep it installed then :)
[21:36] <John12109> so i upload this to my phone, and boot in bootloader?
[21:37] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588837/
[21:37] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst if I remove, won't the files which are installed be removed?
[21:40] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, indeed :)
[21:40] <Ice_Strike> There is no problem if I do wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-3.4.11.tar.bz2
[21:40] <Ice_Strike> and use that?
[21:40] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst the problem is: dpkg: warning: files list file for package `libc6' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[21:40] <nearst> Ice_Strike, i think there is like 3.8 kernel from ppa. just try to google it then. unless ure ready to exploring the kernel panic
[21:41] <M1DLG> When I try to run ndiswrapper I get this error - "Failed to run /usr/sbin/ndisgtk as user root. unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." This error came about the same time as I had a a couple of boot ups that tried to force a disk repair.
[21:41] <verysoftoiletppr> nearst and then "A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory: '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so'"
[21:41] <verysoftoiletppr> It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation;
[21:43] <elisa87> Why am I receiving this error?  source ~/.bashrc ? H: command not found
[21:45] <nearst> verysoftoiletppr, try look at ls -al /lib/libc.so.6 the symlink
[21:46] <levo> is it possible to have controls over windows through terminal? (minimzing, maximizing or . . )
[21:47] <auronandace> verysoftoiletppr: its rather simple: if you are at the point where you need to reinstall libc6 then your system is broken, you really should reinstall ubuntu
[21:47] <auronandace> as you have been told
[21:47] <elisa87> do you know why?
[21:47] <elisa87> source ~/.bashrc
[21:47] <elisa87> H: command not found
[21:48] <iceroot> elisa87: you have "H:" in your bashrc
[21:48] <verysoftoiletppr> auronandace  what you mean with "is broken"
[21:48] <gase> g
[21:48] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: the most important package is libc6, if that is broken you are lost
[21:48] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: as we told you since hours
[21:49] <John12109> is there a software were i can install it from?
[21:49] <Tynach> Hi, I'm trying to install the Humble Bundle with Android 5 games on Ubuntu, and I wanted to do it through the software center for one of them (all but one are supported on Steam for Linux). However, when I follow the link, Ubuntu's website gives me this error: "Sorry we could not find this key. If you have already purchased the bundle, please double check the link you followed and try again."
[21:49] <Tynach> What's going on?
[21:49] <iceroot> John12109: install what?
[21:49] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot that must not be true http://people.adams.edu/~cdmiller/posts/Ubuntu-dpkg-recovery/
[21:49] <John12109> ubuntu mobile
[21:50] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you destroyed libc6
[21:50] <John12109> for andorid
[21:50] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: we are not talking about dpkg anymore
[21:50] <John12109> android***
[21:50] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot I didn't destroy it
[21:50] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot it's still there
[21:50] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you modified it (if i get you correct) you moved it
[21:50] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot no I did not
[21:50] <verysoftoiletppr> I've recovered from that
[21:51] <verysoftoiletppr> I just need to fix the files from /var/lib/dpkg/info
[21:51] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: take another ubuntu installation (same architecture, same packages) and copy the removed file from there to your system
[21:52] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot that would be a very useful suggestion
[21:52] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: or just reinstall
[21:52] <verysoftoiletppr> ^ not useful
[21:53] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: not useful is to use sudo rm :)
[21:53] <verysoftoiletppr> :)
[21:53] <verysoftoiletppr> now I have another problem
[21:53] <brun0> sorry by the dummy question.. but somebody know where can i find gcov source code ?
[21:53] <brun0> my friend google couldn't help me :(
[21:54] <iceroot> brun0: is that a package from the repo?
[21:54] <brun0> i think no
[21:54] <iceroot> brun0: ggcov - Graphical tool for displaying gcov test coverage data
[21:54] <iceroot> brun0: that?
[21:54] <verysoftoiletppr> I've downgraded libc6-dev
[21:54] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: reinstall please
[21:54] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot how can I upgrade?
[21:54] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: just reinstall
[21:54] <brun0> no
[21:54] <Tynach> I guess nobody knows what's going on with Ubuntu's website in regards to the Humble Bundle?
[21:54] <brun0> only gcov
[21:54] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: way to many issues on your strange system
[21:54] <brun0> without graphical frontend
[21:54] <osirisx11> hi all
[21:55] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot noooo
[21:55] <verysoftoiletppr> way to many configuration in to reinstall everything
[21:55] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: you removed the postinst files, the package-definitions, you messed up libc6 and you downgraded libc6-dev
[21:55] <osirisx11> simple question for you, on the graphical ubuntu installer, when installing alongside windows, a splitter representing hard drive space is shown. problem is the two sides are unlabeled, which side is which?
[21:55] <brun0> iceroot, do you know ?
[21:55] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: just create a usefull backup of your config and reinstall
[21:55] <Taev> how do i add acpi=off to my boot options in grub?
[21:55] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot it's not as simple as that
[21:56] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: for me it is
[21:56] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: who knows what else you missonfigured with your "repair"
[21:56] <brun0> iceroot, sorry i can install the package from repo, but i couldn't find the source code :(
[21:56] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot nothing else
[21:56] <iceroot> donwgraded libc6-dev and missconfigured libc6 is very evil
[21:57] <iceroot> brun0: apt-get source packagename
[21:57] <trism> brun0: it is included in the gcc source
[21:57] <nearst> brb
[21:58] <brun0> iceroot, thanks ;)
[21:58] <osirisx11> help! on the graphical ubuntu installer, when installing alongside windows, a splitter representing hard drive space is shown. problem is the two sides are unlabeled, which side is which?
[21:58] <antonio_> does anyone in here use handbrake?
[21:59] <brun0> trism, but can i generate a lib from it ?
[21:59] <p3rror> hello
[21:59] <John12109> is any one here?
[22:00] <p3rror> please I'm configuring the wireless
[22:00] <p3rror> and I dont have wireless network name in my network manager
[22:00] <p3rror> please can you help
[22:01] <trism> brun0: I don't understand the question, the source is gcc/gcov.c in the gcc source
[22:03] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot I have a LVM volume how do I set that back after reinstalling
[22:04] <pr0ph3t> looking for help regarding ffmpeg
[22:04] <verysoftoiletppr> LVM volume made up from partitions from 2 disks
[22:04] <wN> verysoftoiletppr: sup?
[22:04] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: the lvm info is stored on the partition itself
[22:04] <iceroot> verysoftoiletppr: like raid
[22:04] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot but how do I mount it?
[22:05] <verysoftoiletppr> I mean, which partition?
[22:05] <k1l_> !ask | pr0ph3t
[22:05] <verysoftoiletppr> it's stored in which partition?
[22:05] <iceroot> !lvm | verysoftoiletppr
[22:07] <antonio_> does anyone in here use handbrake?  or have gotten it to work?
[22:09] <Kion> I am trying to update my system and the apt-get program gives me this error  "Invalid Signature from Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key" Has anybody experienced the same?
[22:14] <M1DLG> Anyone able to talk me through updating my nvidia drivers to play steam games. (I get an error when steam starts then it closes)
[22:15] <Kion> M1DLG: have you installed the Nvidia drivers?
[22:15] <M1DLG> I have
[22:15] <ev0lve> M1DLG: apt-get install nvidia-common -y
[22:16] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot solved the dependency problems
[22:16] <M1DLG> But I get out of date errors and my PC seems less stable since
[22:16] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot are you running precise?
[22:16] <Kion> M1DLG: for me I actually had to download the driver from Nvidia and install it manually
[22:17] <verysoftoiletppr> can you send me the files you have which match '/var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6*'  ?
[22:17] <M1DLG> Kion, I did, I ended up worse off I think, I tried 3 times through the additional drivers icon and stuffed up ever time and had to reformate each time.
[22:18] <M1DLG>  apt-get install nvidia-common -y
[22:18] <Kion> M1DLG:  here is the procedure 1.- download the Driver and set execution permits.  2.- ctrl + alt +f1 to open a tty terminal   3.- sudo /etc/init.d/ligthdm stop 4.-sudo sh NVIDIA.name.of.your.driver    5.- sudo reboot
[22:18] <M1DLG> oops
[22:18] <M1DLG> I got this error, W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:18] <M1DLG> evolve
[22:18] <M1DLG> ok kion, let me try
[22:19] <Kion> M1DLG: if you follow my procedure, you will not be able to use IRC chat while on the terminal
[22:19] <Kion> M1DLG: until you reboot
[22:19] <M1DLG> will move that over to the other PC. unfortunatly i'm slow typest
[22:20] <verysoftoiletppr> jackyyll you there
[22:21] <John12109> um
[22:22] <m1dlgALT> ok, rady
[22:22] <m1dlgALT> *Ready
[22:25] <wachpwnski> hey guys when you do a run command like smb://computer_name it fails
[22:25] <wachpwnski> But if you do like nautilis smb://computer_name it work
[22:25] <wachpwnski> Is there a way to set it to default to nautalis or nemo when you run smb:// ?
[22:26] <s0nee> wachpwnski: because smb:// is not a command, its a protocol
[22:27] <wachpwnski> s0nee: can i set up an alias or something?
[22:27] <s0nee> wachpwnski: just like http:// can be opened in a browser only
[22:27] <Pici> wachpwnski: you should be able to run something like nautilus smb://computer_name
[22:28] <wachpwnski> yah i can, but is there a way I can set an alias?
[22:28] <s0nee> wachpwnski: so you want to automatically open nautilus whenever you type smb://something ?
[22:29] <Dogfather> #
[22:29] <miebster_atwork> When I sudo my command it can't find it, and if I don't sudo it, it can, what is going on? http://www.bpaste.net/show/FRkqBCykJui5W3Fsfc0S/
[22:29] <wachpwnski> s0nee:  yes
[22:29] <wachpwnski> technically nemo, but maybe ask in bash
[22:30] <pvde> hi, i have a webserver running on ubuntu 12.04 with nginx, and im following a tutorial. In the tutorial i have to make modifications to iptables, but i never used it before and im not sure if i have them.
[22:31] <elisa87> how can I include two files in a makefile using include ?
[22:32] <s0nee> wachpwnski: i don't think you can type smb://something in a shell because the part "//" is not permitted in a command/file name anyway
[22:33] <wachpwnski> there has to be a regex or something when you type smb://*anything* it runs nemo smb://*anything*
[22:37] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot everything is fixed now
[22:37] <Anoniman86> Hi all. I have big fps drops on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and 12.10 64bit with Ati Radeon HD 5670 eith the latest fglrx drivers. How to fix this?
[22:38] <m1dlgALT> my pc is in a worse condition than i thought. i need to check the hdd for errors but dont know how.
[22:38] <verysoftoiletppr> just had to copy /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6:amd64.list from another system and reinstall libc6
[22:38] <verysoftoiletppr> iceroot next time someone has a similar problem...
[22:38] <Kion> m1dlgALT: what happened?
[22:41] <m1dlgALT> ive been freezing up and it will reboot no warning, since i first installed the drivers for my video card. and teh last coupe of times it tries to check the drve but it just reboots then gets to the desktop. as it does i get loads of errors refering to corrupt files and that it's unable to access/find /tmp
[22:41] <Anoniman86> When i restart system, and enter in Steam game, game works fine, but when I exit the game and enter again in game, i have big fps drops
[22:41] <Anoniman86> :(
[22:41] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588985/ I have these two files but I receive the following error: make    -->  /home/jalal/NVIDIA_GPU_Computing_SDK/C/common/inc/cutil.h:1: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[22:41] <Anoniman86> How to fix this?
[22:42] <m1dlgALT> last time i tried ubuntu it was gnome and it just worked, nothing was a problem. this time i have't enjoyed it.
[22:44] <Kion> m1dlgALT: I don't understand... Did the Nvidia drivers got installed?
[22:44] <Kion> m1dlgALT: Are you using a laptop?
[22:44] <m1dlgALT> PC
[22:45] <__dan__> hi all, hope you're having a good evening or whatever it is for you
[22:45] <ryebread761> A PC could mean a laptop
[22:45] <__dan__> i have a question regarding hdparm
[22:45] <__dan__> with regard to the --write-sector flag - is there any way of telling hdparm to do that for every sector on the drive?
[22:46] <Taev> how do i tell grub to do no apci at boot?
[22:46] <m1dlgALT> I installed the nvidia drivers yesterday, I started stam and it tells me he version i installed was not high enough and steam closes. so I wanted to upgrade them, but I have mor serious issues of corrupt files on the drive
[22:46] <__dan__> Taev: add noacpi boot flag i think
[22:46] <m1dlgALT> OK PC = desktop
[22:46] <pzn> I got an old computer with Pentium-M 1.2Ghz and 768Mram, which ubuntu is "suitable" for this obsolete hardware?
[22:46] <__dan__> there are a few others too like nolapic etc
[22:47] <WRStone> Got a question:  Ubuntu 12.10, updated about five minutes ago.  The longer I leave my Ubuntu boxes running, the more IPv6 addresses they accumulate.  Any notion why this might be?  And yes, my ISP is IPv6, and I'm getting the addresses from them, apparently through my Belkin firewall/router/AP.
[22:47] <ryebread761> In your terms it might, but in most people's it does not
[22:47] <__dan__> pzn: i would try xubuntu
[22:47] <__dan__> pzn: kubuntu also has low-fat-settings if you're a kde fan but lack of memory would be troublesome i think
[22:48] <__dan__> pzn: i would try xubuntu or lubuntu
[22:53] <__dan__> anyone help with my hdparm question?
[22:53] <__dan__> i really want to set this drive on fire
[22:53] <__dan__> its gonna be funny
[22:53] <pzn> __dan__, thanks, I'll try xubuntu
[22:53] <__dan__> good luck :)
[22:54] <pzn> __dan__, take a look in what I got :-) an old panasonic cf-29 toughbook :-)
[22:54] <__dan__> haha i've seen a few of those
[22:55] <__dan__> be careful you don't hurt yourself picking it up ;)
[22:55] <Judgen> Hmm my install CD for 12.4 says the CD was built 2010. Can this be correct?
[22:56] <__dan__> no, Judgen
[22:56] <Judgen> This is an installation system for Ubuntu 12.04. It was built on 20101020ubuntu136.
[22:56] <Judgen> Is the first line even
[22:56] <__dan__> but if you're doing a fresh install it might be worth downloading the 12.04.2 iso as you will get a newer kernel
[22:57] <Judgen> I do not have another empty CD and all those new isos seems to have EFI stuff on them, and wont boot after installation.
[22:57] <Judgen> only the efi-free isos boot after the install for me
[22:58] <__dan__> how odd, i have never had that problem
[22:59] <Judgen> It writes ubuntu in the device boot option permanently though.. i have no idea how to get rid of it from there.
[22:59] <Judgen> I wish EFI was never invented
[23:00] <ryebread761> I do because then my Macbook would not work :(
[23:00] <Kion> ryebread761:  that is why macs suck, I will never ever buy anything mac again
[23:01] <ryebread761> Eh, neither will I likely, but it's what I have now and besides it not working with Linux well, I like it :)
[23:02] <Ice_Strike> How to boot to new kernal when restarting ubuntu?
[23:03] <maxibyte> hey guys, im n a bit of a pickle, i was trying to uinstall ubuntu on my main desktop so being the genius i am i just re-formatted, but apparently grub is still here, attempting to login to my windows disk results in grub telling me that it is an unkown filesystem, and opening the grub rescue promp
[23:04] <jrib> maxibyte: ask ##windows how to restore your mbr
[23:04] <maxibyte> i tried using a bootable usb to format the rest, however gparted says the partition is still in use and has a key icon next to it
[23:04] <jrib> maxibyte: you don't want ubuntu anymore right?
[23:04] <maxibyte> jrib: i know how to restore my MBR but that requires me to boot into my install cd, which is currently impossible due to grub
[23:05] <maxibyte> not right now, perhaps i will dual boot later, but ive been wrestling with my computer all day trying to fix it
[23:05] <penth> For the second time in a week, all my menus are appearing behind windows (global, right-click, chrome bookmarks et al.). Has anyone else seen this in 12.04? I didn't find a bug listing yet
[23:05] <jrib> maxibyte: that shouldn't be the case.  Your computer should boot from the cd before trying grub.  You need to configure your bios to do so
[23:05] <maxibyte> i tell it to boot from the cd.
[23:05] <maxibyte> and then it tells me "unknown filesystem"
[23:05] <jrib> maxibyte: did it boot from the cd?
[23:05] <maxibyte> maybe its my boot order
[23:05] <jrib> maxibyte: yes, check that
[23:05] <maxibyte> i dont know jrib, because it says unknown filesystem
[23:05] <penth> That sounds more like a bad cd
[23:05] <maxibyte> brb
[23:05] <maxibyte> nope
[23:06] <maxibyte> the cd worked fine
[23:06] <FloodBot1> maxibyte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <jrib> maxibyte: what cd by the way?
[23:06] <maxibyte> until i formatted my main partition
[23:06] <maxibyte> windows 7
[23:06] <maxibyte> its just an install disk
[23:06] <penth> ...
[23:06] <maxibyte> anyays, brb
[23:08] <zimzum77> so here is one, ubuntu can get irus's right??
[23:08] <zimzum77> virus
[23:08] <AbhiK> i suppose, Wrong!
[23:08] <__dan__> generally you dont have to worry about viruses
[23:09] <zimzum77> so what about  jave, flash, ect?
[23:09] <zimzum77> no need to worry
[23:09] <n-iCe> if I install ubuntu-server, how can I install gnome2?
[23:09] <Nach0z> zimzum77: ubuntu's much more resilient to attacks than windows, but that doesn't give you an excuse to be dumbarse with it. just be careful with what you do
[23:10] <__dan__> haha words to live by
[23:10] <Kion> ryebread761: I will install linux on my Macbook via Virtualbox
[23:10] <zimzum77> Oh i am, i just got a funky lag happening, tring to figure it out
[23:10] <__dan__> there are tools like rkhunter
[23:11] <__dan__> check for rootkits
[23:11] <zimzum77> now the 1,000,000$  Ques.  how to find rootkit?
[23:12] <__dan__> [23:10] <__dan__> there are tools like rkhunter
[23:12] <__dan__> :)
[23:12] <zimzum77> sudo apt-get install rkhunter??
[23:13] <__dan__> should be, yeah
[23:13] <zimzum77> thx
[23:13] <__dan__> been a while since i used it myself
[23:13] <__dan__> it's a command line tool but i think you just run it
[23:14] <zimzum77> ok, ima learning so , i need to figure out to read it all lol
[23:14] <__dan__> sure :)
[23:14] <xii> test
[23:15] <Zer000> I installed ubuntu with UK English keyboard by accident, I changed it from preferences and its fine in Gnome, but not in command line mode (| key is ~)
[23:15] <Zer000> how can I change this?
[23:16] <Zer000> (i need US english)
[23:16] <__dan__> if you're just experiencing slowdown / teh lagg etc, first place i would look is system monitor / top command
[23:17] <Taev> im on the ubuntu install, at the select and install software menu and its been stuck at 97% "cleaning up" for awhile, is there a way i can check to see if the install is hung?
[23:18] <zimzum77> __dan__, usually firefox is top
[23:18] <zimzum77> when this happens
[23:18] <donsd> After fresh install, want to restore crontab from backup. What file should I look for?
[23:18] <__dan__> donsd: /etc/crontab
[23:19] <__dan__> donsd: you may also want to check the cron.* directories
[23:19] <__dan__> Taev: try CTRL-ALT-F1, F2 .. etc
[23:19] <__dan__> Taev: you can switch text consoles, i think it's F3 or F4 that's the install log
[23:19] <Taev> i did that, and its working
[23:19] <Taev> but thanks
[23:20] <__dan__> last few lines of the log not show anything useful?
[23:20] <tirengarfio> hi, i have to change my harddisk (with ubuntu 12.04 installed) to another computer, what should i have to do to get sound, microphone,.. working?
[23:21] <__dan__> tirengarfio: usually ubuntu is much more understanding in such circumstances, you should just be able to switch the hard drive over and boot it up
[23:21] <__dan__> tirengarfio: use common sense though - make a working verifiable backup, dont listen to anything anyone tells you on the internet, etc etc ;)
[23:22] <duncan_bayne> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a VPN using Ubuntu.  I have a VPN config exported from OSX ( https://gist.github.com/duncan-bayne/5095315 ) but can't figure out what settings I need in NetworkManager.
[23:22] <donsd> __dan__ thanks, /etc/crontab is not it. I'm looking for the one that has all my entries.
[23:22] <tirengarfio> __dan__:  so do you think everything will work without installing anything?
[23:22] <__dan__> tirengarfio: i would certainly try it
[23:23] <__dan__> donsd: try looking in /etc/cron.d/
[23:23] <Alives> where does the display system settings get its screen names?  my primary screen shows up as something wrong and i wanted to look into it to make sure its not something of a bigger issue
[23:24] <donsd> __dan__ thanks. I will look in the directories.
[23:25] <tirengarfio> One more: i am thinking about buying this mother board: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=111-IB-E692-KR Im wondering if i will have any problem of compatibility with the latest ubuntu versions..
[23:27] <tirengarfio> what about the ubuntu's compatibility in general with hardware?
[23:27] <OerHeks> !hcl
[23:28] <__dan__> tirengarfio: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_z77_chipset&num=1
[23:28] <Ice_Strike> Hmm why this wont work
[23:28] <Ice_Strike> sudo cp -r /path/root/* /root
[23:28] <Ice_Strike> copy all files/dirs from /path/root/ to /root
[23:30] <OerHeks> Ice_Strike, maybe -R case sensitive
[23:31] <tirengarfio> __dan__ thank you!
[23:31] <voxadam> I'm setting up automatic updates on one of my home servers and I'm having difficulty deciding if I should only enable the security repository or the if I should include updates as well. What is the difference between the two?
[23:32] <__dan__> no problem tirengarfio :)
[23:32] <Ice_Strike> I am getting cp: cannot stats `/path/root/*`: no such file or dir..
[23:32] <Ice_Strike> but it is deffo in /path/root/ exist
[23:33] <Alives> Ice_Strike: permissions?
[23:33] <Alives> Ice_Strike: deffo permissions...
[23:34] <Ice_Strike> but i did sudo
[23:34] <Alives> where is /path/root?
[23:34] <Alives> nfs?
[23:39] <Ice_Strike> Alives No, on same disk
[23:39] <Alives> can you see and access the files?
[23:40] <__dan__> could try a slash after the second /root
[23:40] <__dan__> think u got bigger problems but i always do it that way
[23:40] <__dan__> if i remember correctly
[23:40]  * __dan__ has been spoiled by dolphin
[23:41] <Ice_Strike> cp -R /path/root/ /root
[23:41] <__dan__> no
[23:41] <Ice_Strike> this work though
[23:41] <__dan__> cp -R /path/root/* /root/
[23:41] <Ice_Strike> but not with *
[23:41] <Ice_Strike> yes i tried that
[23:43] <__dan__> you're in as root? or u have sudo in front of that command?
[23:43] <Ice_Strike> sudo
[23:44] <__dan__> i just did that and it worked for me
[23:45] <p0s> i run kubuntu12.10 amd64 on a thinkpad t61p. powertop shows that not all possible tunables are tuned by default. what is the recommened way of making ubuntu tune those automatically at startup?
[23:46] <n0sq> why does my display dim on occassion even during use? i have to wait until it un-dims before i can do anything else - happens on all my pc's - some using 12.04 and some using 12.10 and one using lubuntu
[23:46] <__dan__> Ice_Strike: sudo cp -R /home/danmac/.scummvm/* /root/
[23:46] <__dan__> Ice_Strike: dumps all files and directories from that directory into /root
[23:46] <__dan__> Ice_Strike: on my machine ... ur doing something wrong ;)
[23:47] <Dataoriginal> what is the next newq project?
[23:47] <__dan__> p0s: there is a guide somewhere i saw a while back that will help you with that, have a google
[23:47] <p0s> __dan__: remember any suitable keywords i could use?
[23:47] <__dan__> just having a look for you now
[23:48] <__dan__> "To help you make the changes permanent, PowerTOP displays the exact command it runs to perform this optimization. Add the command to your /etc/rc.local file with your preferred text editor so that it takes effect every time that the computer starts."
[23:49] <__dan__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/112705/how-do-i-make-powertop-changes-permanent
[23:51] <p0s> __dan__: mmh ok nice thank you. however i would prefer to install a package which has the job of doing this. in other words: i can't imagine that there is no standard way of doing this automatically via a daemon/package with startup scripts
[23:51] <__dan__> p0s: when you write one, let me know I will install it too ;)
[23:51] <p0s> __dan__:  :|
[23:52] <zimzum77> so i did, sudo apt-get instll rkhunter, now it says "postfix config"  please select mail server config type, <ok>  but i can't do anything at this point. I hit enter but nothing
[23:52] <__dan__> zimzum77: lol i think you installed postfix
[23:52] <__dan__> zimzum77: maybe the package recommends a mail server
[23:53] <zimzum77> sudo apt get purge  rkhunter
[23:53] <__dan__> hahah
[23:53] <MoPac> I would like to mount some encfs folders with a script and THEN be able to manage them with Cryptkeeper during a session. Could someone help me (a) give commands to Cryptkeeper, rather than encfs, with a script; or (b) issue mount commands with encfs in a way that Cryptkeeper will recognize?
[23:53] <zimzum77> actually, what kind of mail??
[23:54] <__dan__> zimzum77: rkhunter can be configured to send emails when the checks are scheduled
[23:55] <__dan__> zimzum77: i just looked at the package and if you install with recommends it will probably install default mail transport agent which in your case seems to be postfix
[23:55] <MoPac> (in case above was not clear): At the moment, if I encfs mount a folder in terminal, even if the source and mountpoint are in Cryptkeeper's directory, Cryptkeeper does not seem to know that it's mounted (no check mark appears, for example)
[23:55] <__dan__> MoPac: not familiar with cryptkeeper sorry
[23:56] <zimzum77> ok, now question is, when i ran the line , is that bit of info put in to my pc, or does it just stop and retain itself
[23:56] <__dan__> zimzum77: dont understand your last line sorry
[23:57] <zimzum77> i'm saying,did it delete the info that download or do i have bits of the program sitting somewhare
[23:57] <zimzum77> womewhere
[23:57] <zimzum77> haha can't type
[23:57] <zimzum77> : )
[23:57] <__dan__> you could always try apt-cache policy rkhunter
[23:58] <zimzum77> and that;ll do??
[23:58] <__dan__> if it comes back with "Installed: (none)" then it isnt installed
[23:58] <__dan__> i would also check to see if postfix is installed in the same way
[23:58] <zimzum77> cool i try that
[23:58] <__dan__> and in future please look at the list of packages you are about to install :)
[23:59] <zimzum77> right on thx for tip
[23:59] <__dan__> consider using aptitude - that makes things a little easier to understand
[23:59] <__dan__> sure, anytime :)