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xyndthhello.  how am I enable/disable VPN after it has been saved?00:21
nantouhow do I uncompress an .ape file?00:31
Cheri703When I try to run x11vnc, I get an error message saying it can't find the display "XOpenDisplay("") failed. // Trying again with XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=localhost ... // *** XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY. // *** Trying ":0" in 4 seconds.03:22
Cheri703I am running xubuntu 12.10 on that machine, fresh install a few days ago03:22
Cheri703x11vnc was working on vanilla ubuntu before the reinstallation03:23
Unit193What's the output of  ps aux | grep auth | sed -n 's/.*X\ \(.*\)\ -core.*/\1/p'  ?03:28
Cheri703uhm...one sec03:29
Cheri703:003:29
Cheri703for the record, it gives the same error if I run it with -find instead of -display :003:30
Unit193Is user is logged into the system, not sitting at the login screen?03:31
Cheri703is there a terminal command to check for additional drivers?03:31
Cheri703it is logged in03:31
Cheri703I'm ssh'ing from the other room, but I could go out to it if I have to03:31
* Cheri703 doesn't have a comfortable place to sit out there03:31
Unit193jockey-text is the application.03:32
Cheri703for drivers?03:32
Unit193Yep.03:32
Cheri703hmm...that says I should install jockey-common, which wants to install nvidia stuff, which I don't need03:33
* Cheri703 installs anyway03:34
Unit193That package installs ubuntu-drivers-common, actually, and comes with Xubuntu (and most other Ubuntus) by default...03:35
Cheri703hmm...apparently it didn't come by default?03:36
Cheri703because it wasn't installed03:36
Cheri703and it's saying I have nothing to install, which is fine, I just wanted to check03:36
Cheri703wasn't sure if a missing driver might be behind the lack of display stuff03:38
Unit193Other than jockey, you can also use  ubuntu-drivers list {devices|list}}03:39
Cheri703well, would that possibly be related to the x11vnc stuff? because that's my main priority03:39
Cheri703it did not like that command03:40
Unit193Not likely.  You could also try a method that starts x11vnc with lightdm03:40
Cheri703hmm03:40
Cheri703how do I do that?03:40
Cheri703I was trying this: http://babilonline.blogspot.com/2012/06/ubuntu-1204how-to-use-vnc-even-at-login.html03:41
Cheri703which is what worked the other day on vanilla ubuntu03:41
Cheri703but is not working now on xubuntu 12.1003:41
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Unit193Pretty sure http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ should work, but I've used your method. >_>03:42
Cheri703at the moment I'm not even worrying about vnc before login, because I just want vnc AFTER login at least!03:43
Cheri703I am logged in to the computer, I'm fine to ssh in, but any and all attempts to connect via vnc fail. even when I tried vino03:44
Cheri703do I need to open ports or something? Is there some basic step missing?03:44
holsteinCheri703: vnc was broken for me.. i just forward x, or use teamviewer... i find vnc pretty "meh" anyways. and i never really tracked down what was going on03:46
Unit193Shouldn't be, so if you enter  x11vnc -display :0   as your logged in user, what's the full tail end of the output?03:46
Cheri703I was going to try teamviewer, but it kept crashing on me when I'd try to set a password on it >_<03:46
* Unit193 has used X forwarding, but like VNC for speed.03:46
Cheri703-_-03:47
Cheri703so it works if I don't have a .Xauthority file involved03:47
Cheri703which...concerning03:47
Cheri703so I need to set a password03:47
Cheri703thanks Unit193!03:47
Unit193Sorry, I thought you had tried that command...03:48
Cheri703I'd tried it a variety of other ways because silly me, I'd think it'd need something other than just "hey computer, let me in!"03:48
Cheri703>_< thanks03:49
Unit193It would appear I use x11vnc -safer -forever   with an exported display and no pass.03:49
Unit193Well, 'welcome.03:50
LJSeinfeldHow do you set up file sharing in Xubuntu?  I installed it from the Software Center… but I don't see any options to set it up anywhere06:35
XATRIXI see cupsd -f server is running up on my laptop07:48
XATRIXHow can i make - on demand ?07:48
XATRIXIt should start while i connect USB printer/or trigger Printing07:49
xubuntu925What is the easiest way to set a python script to run on startup?08:44
xubuntu925Also, I run this (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=E7x8bczb) command to change screen resolution, but it disappears after reboot.08:45
xubuntu925I mean, it goes back to 1024x768.08:45
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DemonWitchwhere can i get opencl headers from?12:52
TheSheepapt-get install opencl-dev   probably12:53
TheSheepor libopencl-dev12:54
DemonWitchTheDrums,12:58
DemonWitchTheSheep,12:58
DemonWitchi am trying to build this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-headers/1.2-2012.04.18a-112:58
DemonWitchits tar.gz. how can i build it?12:58
TheSheepyou don't build header files13:01
LachezarHey all... Is there an alternative to xscreensaver that shows the keyboard layout and *-lock states?13:01
DemonWitchhow do i install a deb file13:02
TheSheepDemonWitch: double-click it13:02
LachezarI end up entering the wrong password numerous times before I succeed in choosing the right keyboard layout and turning off the CapsLock and NumLock.13:02
GridCube?13:03
DemonWitchwhere can i get opencl-icd13:05
DemonWitchits requested by a package13:05
TheSheephttp://packages.ubuntu.com13:06
TheSheepor install it with synaptic13:07
xubuntu065hello14:53
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dion2389good morning guys15:19
GridCubegood15:26
mijI left xubuntu 12.10 live cd running on a laptop and the screen locked. Now it asks for a password, and I can't find it on the docs15:39
baizonmij: try to just hit "enter" :)15:39
mijbaizon: that was my first try :) my second was "xubuntu". No luck either15:40
knomeubuntu and ubuntu?15:41
knome(i mean, the password would just "ubuntu")15:41
mijactually, now that I look it closely it says "assuming null password means cancel" on the upper left corner15:42
mijok, I think it's an I/O problem15:43
mijok that was it, a problem with the USB memory stick15:44
mijthanks for your time ;)15:44
baizonnp :)15:46
Victor___Hi all16:51
ScorchedMuffinhi16:52
Victor___That is my first time here but I'm really surprised. Today I installed the recommended updates from my Xubuntu OS. It warned me that it was a partial update, but nothing seemed wrong. The update was the new version of Libreoffice (4.0) and now, Writer has a graphic error when I scroll the document. Is there a known issue? It seems a problem with my old graphic card (ATI 9550 AGP), so, should I downgrade Libreoffice? Thanks in advan16:55
holsteinVictor___: did you add a PPA?16:57
Victor___I'm not sure. I'll check it.16:58
Victor___I had http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu precise main in "Software origins"17:00
holsteinVictor___: open a terminal... type "sudo apt-get update" and hit return.. share any error messages17:00
holstein!paste17:00
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holsteinthen, if no errors, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:01
Victor___no errors with apt-get update, and 0 archives updated, installed, erased and not updated after dist-upgrade17:03
holsteinVictor___: so, you are up to date it seems... you want to open something like synaptic and find libre office and step it down?17:04
holsteinseems like this is the PPA you are using https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa which looks good17:06
Victor___So it is a compatibility problem with my hardware it seems? Under 180% zoom scrolling all is correct, but with 190% zoom and upwards, there is the graphic fail.17:07
Victor___If the update was correct and the PPA is good... That only could be my old pc XD17:08
Victor___I will remain a few days with that vesion of Libreoffice in order to see if a new update solves the problem. If this is not solved, I will downgrade, I think....17:09
GridCubeor some incompatibility somewhere, do a bugreport Victor___17:09
Victor___Where could I do the bugreport GRidcube?17:09
GridCubeVictor___, open a terminal and typo ubuntu-bug libreoffice17:10
GridCubelol typo on type XD17:10
Victor___and that's all? Or should I describe the problem?17:11
GridCubein any case, it will gather information of your system and libreoffice and try to send it to launchpad, if you have an account it will do so17:11
GridCubethere you will be able to add all the information you want and screenshots and whatnot17:11
Victor___Ah ok. It said that it was not an official packet, so it could'nt send the bugreport...17:12
holsteinVictor___: step down to the repo version and test17:14
Victor___Ok Holstein. How I can step down to the repo version? With Synaptic? Should I erase the PPAs I had on Software Origins in addition?17:16
holsteinVictor___: i would start by opening synaptic, and stepping down to the repo version. and test17:19
Victor___To step down I need to select all libreoffice elements and mark them for complete uninstall? Is this method correct?17:23
emmanuel0791I am looking for a free screen reader that works with Xubuntu 12.1017:24
emmanuel0791Does one exist??17:25
holsteinVictor___: i would start by stepping down whatever you find and feel comfortable.. and test.. and know how to recover from what you are doing17:25
holsteinemmanuel0791: i would start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Screen_Reader17:26
SuperLagAny issues going on with the daily installer?17:27
emmanuel0791holstein: Thank you very much i did not know that Orca would work with it17:28
SuperLagI'm at the "Preparing to install Xubuntu" screen, have both boxes (Download updates while installing, and Install this third-party software) checked... and then I click Continue... and I get a spinner, but it never goes any further.17:28
holsteinSuperLag: for 13.04? try #ubuntu+1 ..i would expect issues with any non-stable release of anything, and get 12.10 if you are wanting stable17:28
holsteinemmanuel0791: any screen reader that ubuntu/debian can use should work easily in xubuntu.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu17:29
emmanuel0791holstein: I saw in Google that XFCE had a major problem with it but the entries were from 2009 or 2010 so i guess now many issues have been fixed17:30
holsteinemmanuel0791: it = orca? i havent tried it, but there are plenty of options if you have issues17:31
emmanuel0791holstein: Yes i mean Orca...also on the website of it and at Wikipedia it did not state that Xubuntu would work with it... i will try though :P17:33
holsteinemmanuel0791: does orca state ubuntu support? xubuntu *is* ubuntu17:33
emmanuel0791holstein: I know it is Ubuntu + Xfce but it only said it would support GNOME and i think Xfce is not GNOME.. but i am glad that it works with it then :) Another question: There is no way to disable the "debconf " windows that pop in for a second during installations right?17:35
holsteinemmanuel0791: i would probably install from the command line or a place where popups wouldnt be an issue17:37
emmanuel0791holstein: Well it is so easy through the Software-Center =/ but i guess i will have to do so then...17:39
GridCubeemmanuel0791, you might want to enable gnome services on xfce, that might make orca work on xubuntu17:41
GridCubeas far as i knew the only problem was that orca does not work with webkit, so chromium or midori did not worked with orca, however firefox should, but... it wasnt working. thats the last i heard of orca on xubuntu last year17:42
emmanuel0791GridCube: How do i enable them and will they need much more performance than the usual Xubuntu?17:42
GridCubenot really, you enable them on >settings >session and startup >Last tab(advanced), first checkbox17:43
emmanuel0791GridCube: Okay thanks i will do so in a few minutes and tell if it worked after17:45
emmanuel0791GridCube, Okay i installed it now but where is it ? o.o18:13
GridCubealt-f2  gnome-orca18:13
GridCubei dont think it has a menu entry18:13
emmanuel0791GridCube, it says not found18:14
GridCubemaybe its just orca?18:14
emmanuel0791GridCube, I installed via sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca18:14
GridCubeemmanuel0791, i think you will be more pleased using a distro targeted for accesibility like http://www.sonar-project.org/18:16
GridCubeim afraid that in the current state of orca and xfce there is not much else you could do18:16
emmanuel0791GridCube, Thank you for the link.. which version should i choose? i386?18:19
holsteinemmanuel0791: i386 is safe18:20
emmanuel0791holstein, Alright... and it is ISO file so i need to burn it??18:22
GridCubeyes, or make an usb using unetbootin18:22
GridCubeall images are bigger than 700mb so a cd wont fit it18:24
GridCubeemmanuel0791, for my information, have you tried simply running orca on the app launcher?18:26
emmanuel0791GridCube, Yes i typed the 2 names in the app-launcher but it said " not found " and i think i will need to try to install orca somehow else since i do not have a burner or USB stick now18:28
emmanuel0791GridCube, I installed it now via Software-Center and it works it even has a menu-entry under tools18:44
GridCubeo:18:44
GridCubeexcellent18:44
xubuntu054hello18:44
xubuntu054is anyone here know how to install cubuntu using cds18:45
GridCubecubuntu?18:46
xubuntu375Hello all, require yr help pls. Using latest version Xubuntu. Have ended session and selected unbuntu session although not installed. screen is now blank. no menu, no context menues on right mouse button. could anybody help?19:06
xubuntu375Hello all, require yr help pls. Using latest version Xubuntu. Have ended session and selected unbuntu session although not installed. screen is now blank. no menu, no context menues on right mouse button. could anybody help?19:20
frojnd_Hi there19:40
frojnd_What is default username and password for live cd 12.10?19:40
frojnd_I logout and I now I need to login back19:41
David-Afrojnd_: live cd password is empty (no password)19:57
Victor___Thanks a lot for the help here. Bye20:03
frojnd_David-A: what's the username?20:11
frojnd_also, if I attach hard drive after I already boot into live xubutu 12.10, is it possible to install xubuntu after it?20:11
frojnd_I seem to have big problems20:11
frojnd_it just won't install it after I choose next at the very beginning20:12
frojnd_not that it would freeze or anything it just loops on some stuff20:12
David-Afrojnd_: I don't remember exactly, but username is probably xubuntu or ubuntu, anyway, it shows the username on the login screen.20:13
frojnd_David-A: aha thanx20:13
xubuntu909how do i install programs from a tar.bz?20:23
holsteinxubuntu909: usually it just depends on what is in there, and what it needs.. and there is usually a readme file20:23
xubuntu909okay thanks.20:24
knomexubuntu909, you should always use the official repositories if possible. what are you trying to install?20:24
holstein!checkinstall20:24
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!20:24
holstein^^ i like that as well, since you can more easily remove an application20:25
xubuntu909knome: im trying to install drivers for a samsung printer, ML-167520:28
frojnd_yes!20:34
frojnd_got the bios pass :D20:34
xubuntu909Im trying to install printer drivers from a tar.gz, can anyone help me?20:39
baizonxubuntu909: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file20:41
David-Axubuntu909: have you searched for "samsung printer" in the software center or synaptic? did not that driver work?20:44
xubuntu909David-A: i tryed the software center but not synaptic20:44
xubuntu909never heard of synaptic20:44
David-Axubuntu909: (synaptic is another package manager, showing more technical info, if software center didn't find any, synaptic won't either, probably)20:47
xubuntu909k thanks20:48
David-Axubuntu909: if you have downloaded the tar file I found at samsungs site, you are NOT to do the "configure, make, make install" procedure linked to above.21:00
xubuntu909okay. what do i do then, cause thats what i have David-A21:01
David-Axubuntu909: you first need to extract its content. either "tar xf <filename>" in a terminal or "Open with archive manager" in Thunar and then extract.21:02
xubuntu909okay David-A21:03
xubuntu909then?21:04
David-Axubuntu909: what exactly is the name of the tar you downloaded?21:05
yell0wi'm on xubuntu 12.04 amd64. X is not working. I dropped to console and try startx and got "xinit: unable to connect to X server: no such file or directory"21:05
yell0wany suggestions ?21:05
xubuntu909David-A: smartpanel_0.92.tar.gz21:06
David-Axubuntu909: I dont know what samsung terminology is but i would gess UnifiedLinuxDriver is the driver and Smartpanel is a fancy user interface. usually the driver is nessessary and the gui is optional. do you have the driver too?21:11
xubuntu909no ill grab that quick21:11
xubuntu909David-A: got it & extracted21:14
David-Axubuntu909: when you have extracted UnifiedLinuxDriver there is a subfolder "cdroot" with a subfolder "Linux", and when extracted Smartpanel there is yet a subfolder "smartpanel". Look into the file "Installer.htm" for instructions, or if you are brave, just dive in and run "install.sh".21:14
David-Axubuntu909: (well, better read the instructions first, so you dont blame me if things go wrong)21:16
xubuntu909David-A: it says in need CUPS, SANE and ghostscfript21:17
David-Axubuntu909: they are all in the repositories (software center, synaptic or apt-get) (some maybe already installed)21:19
xubuntu909okay also so you know what im reading David-A ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588790/21:20
xubuntu909David-A: how do i run the install script? kind of a noob still21:26
David-Axubuntu909: strangely enuff that doc does not tell how to start the install program. but the "autorun" starts "install.sh" in the "Linux" folder. in a terminal, go to the "Linux" folder and issue command: ./install.sh21:28
David-Axubuntu909: make sure the prerequisite packages are installed first. (if you are not sure, the install program will check that too, the doc says)21:30
xubuntu909i tryed to run it and got this :http://paste.ubuntu.com/5588828/21:31
xubuntu909David-A: ^^21:32
David-Axubuntu909: thats an old version of the libstdc++. do you have "libstdc++5" in softw center or synaptic (or apt-get), try install it, then start install.sh again21:35
David-Axubuntu909: wait, the message says "libstdc++.so.5 (gcc 3.0.x .. 3.3.x) not found, install..."21:39
David-A(note the "...")21:39
xubuntu909i got it :D21:39
David-Axubuntu909: then it installs a copy of libstdc++5 provided by their driver package.21:41
David-Axubuntu909: obviously, the install process must be run with admin rights. throw in a sudo.21:41
xubuntu909David-A thank you for all this help21:43
Hans-Martinhi folks, I've installed xubuntu 12.04 on a machine and I'm trying to change the login screen resolution. The recipes on the net recommend editing xorg.conf. However, there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 :-(21:44
Hans-MartinI don't grok the new x server configuration structure yet...21:44
frojnd_Hm21:45
frojnd_I just tried to install xubuntu and I got Errno 30 Read-only file system: .... and then a note that probably my hd is damaged21:46
frojnd_can you suggest me any tools for isolating bad secotrs of disk?21:46
frojnd_within xubuntu?21:46
jcfpHans-Martin: if you create an xorg.conf there yourself it will be used21:47
Hans-Martinah ok21:48
David-Afrojnd_: bad sectors are isolated automatically if detected while write. if detected while read, data is already lost and cannot be circumvent automatically.21:48
David-Afrojnd_: is the Disk Utility available on the live cd? if so, what does it say about the health of the disk?21:51
frojnd_David-A: where it should be?21:52
frojnd_disk utility in xubuntu 12.10 live?21:52
frojnd_usually*21:53
David-Afrojnd_: maybe the System submenu21:54
Hans-Martinjcfp: that seems to have worked, thx!21:54
frojnd_David-A: no nothing there21:55
frojnd_what's the package name?21:55
frojnd_I can install it21:55
David-Afrojnd_: i'm not sure what the name is now. will search for "disk utility" in software center find it?21:57
frojnd_David-A: yeah, is this gui?22:00
frojnd_found gnome-disk-utility and it says it's already installed but when I do alt+f2 and type in gnome-disk-utility it won't execute, nor will it autocomplete when typing in terminal..22:01
David-Afrojnd_: should be, what does the screenshot look like?22:01
David-Afrojnd_: the command used to be "palimpsest", (maybe still is)22:02
frojnd_David-A: it's gnome-disks22:08
frojnd_David-A: heh, it says disk is OK 48 bad sectors :)22:08
frojnd_if I only knew how to isolate them...22:08
frojnd_I would create a partition where those disks are and that would be it22:09
David-Afrojnd_: do you need to save/keep data from the disk? there is a command "badblocks" to find bad block, with an option it will write all blocks, and bad blocks will then be isolated automatically.22:12
frojnd_no I don't need data22:13
David-Afrojnd_: alternatively, there is usually an option to check the whole partition when you format it.22:13
frojnd_mkfs.ext4 ?22:14
frojnd_I mean mkfs?22:14
David-Afrojnd_: if you want an ext4 "mkfs.ext4" would be easier than "mkfs".22:21
frojnd_yeah yeah22:27
frojnd_you mentioned to check the whole parition when you format it22:27
frojnd_what did you have in mind?22:27
David-Afrojnd_: see "man mkfs.ext4" the -c option22:31
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n-iCeWhat are the advantages of xubuntu over ubuntu?23:08
knomen-iCe, what do you need from a system?23:10
n-iCeperformance23:10
knomeis that more important than any features or userfriendliness?23:10
n-iCewell, userfriendly is also needed23:11
n-iCeBut maybe not good looking23:11
n-iCeI just use the browser, movies, office23:11
n-iCeI was a Debian user for over 6 years23:11
n-iCeJust moved to Ubuntu yesterday, not sure I like Unity, etc.23:11
David-An-iCe: xubuntu is quite user friendly in my opinion, and can be tweaked to be quite pretty too. (for a really new newbe maybe ubuntu is still a little easier)23:13
Slash0megai used the live cd to install xubuntu along side windows, but now i can not boot into windows....23:13
knomen-iCe, you got to find the balance you need. xubuntu is lighter from ubuntu, but there are even lighter systems.23:14
n-iCeknome: lighter? which ones?23:15
knomen-iCe, lubuntu, for example; it's not as userfriendly in all places and might lack some features you need. as i said, it's all about balance.23:15
knomen-iCe, depenging on your system, you might not even need to free more resources you can with xubuntu (or any other flavor/distro)23:16
Slash0megaI need help, i just installed xubuntu along side windows with the live cd, but now i can not boot into windows....23:21
knome!patience | Slash0mega23:22
ubottuSlash0mega: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:22
GridCubeSlash0mega, open a terminal and type >> sudo update-grub <<23:27
Slash0megaok23:28
Slash0megathank you, that got me the menu item i need.23:34
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GridCubeSlash0mega, :)23:41
n-iCeWell, I'm going to install xubunut23:45
n-iCexubuntu23:45
GridCube:D23:46
David-An-iCe: nice. you make room for distro hopping?23:46
n-iCechan?23:47
n-iCeI'm booting on xubuntu, brb23:48
n-iCeIm on xbuntu23:50
n-iCenot sure  I like the maclookslike botom bar23:51
knomeyou can always remove it if you don't like it23:51
n-iCeDoes xubuntu 12.10 has the same files last updates like ubuntu?23:57
knomen-iCe, yes, your settings and files are kept intact. backups are always encouraged though.23:58
n-iCeOk, installed, I need to reboot23:59

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