[02:56] <alex_mayorga> What's the tag for older bugs still plagging raring?
[02:58] <alex_mayorga> Bug 551668 is still in raring =(
[05:56] <snadge> updates have fixed the skype issue btw :D
[05:56] <snadge> hi-five to whomever fixed it.. hehe
[06:52] <snadge> my bad.. skype is at least installable now without package conflicts
[06:53] <snadge> but it still segfaults on startup without the libGL wrapper
[09:39] <rye> hi, i was directed to test mainline kernel (3.9-rc1) but the kernel failed to build - http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-rc1-raring/
[09:40] <rye> probably the script will want to check not for the latest version but the one that is actually being used in the release
[09:40] <rye> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1137513
[09:42] <alankila> this multitouch stuff is totally worthless. Is it possible to disable 3- and 4-finger gestures, because this design seems to generate them randomly -- I swear I don't have 3 fingers on the touchpad at any point and yet it fires up application switcher and triggers show desktop and so on. :-/
[09:42] <alankila> not to mention that it's disappointing that 2-finger scrolling doesn't afford pixel precise control, everything moves by chunks
[12:10] <martti> hello
[12:11] <martti> running virtualbox 4.1.22 here, and I set up bridged connection. arp kind of comes in sometimes, ping doesn't work at all.
[12:22] <martti> ah wait, just got a newer kernel
[12:40] <martti> okay, updating fixed my problem with vbox.
[12:48] <autoditac> hi, since upgrading to 13.04 (i know, it's in development), the layer2 status of the nic in my Thinkpad T500 (driver: e1000) doesn't get detected anymore and i can't setup any ethernet connection. ethtool states "unknown device" when i query eth0. when connected to the docking station, ethernet works fine, though. links gets detected and everything
[12:48] <autoditac> anyone famailiar with that behaviour
[12:48] <autoditac> ?
[12:54] <martti> is that a virtual machine?
[12:58] <martti> if it is, you need to be careful with keeping guest and host addition software, as well as guest and host kernel modules in sync with their respecitve kernels. also, upgrading to 3.8.0-11 just helped me with a network issue
[13:01] <martti> oh wait, silly me, that was an explicit laptop. 3.8.0-11 might help as well though.
[13:22] <autoditac> martii, ok. thanks a lot. i'll try that
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:39] <SuperLag> It seems like the Xubuntu installer for the daily is hanging. Is there a log I can check to make sure?
[15:40] <jtaylor> after the second screen with the third party software?
[15:41] <SuperLag> yeah
[15:41] <SuperLag> well, where the checkboxes are, to select download updates and 3rd party software
[15:41] <SuperLag> when I click Continue... it's not going anywhere... just spinning
[15:41] <jtaylor> a common issue
[15:41] <jtaylor> theres a bug with a couple workwround which sometimes work
[15:42] <jtaylor> try sudo swapoff --all before starting the installer
[15:47] <SuperLag> tried that... seems to make no difference
[15:47] <SuperLag> (just tried it, since you suggested it)
[15:48] <SuperLag> I even rebooted, to start from a clean slate
[15:55] <jtaylor> I don't know how to get around
[15:55] <jtaylor> it
[15:55] <jtaylor> after the 20 or so try it worked for some reason
[15:55] <jtaylor> try unpluging all external drives
[15:57] <SuperLag> there are no externals in this case
[15:57] <SuperLag> just two internals, one SSD, one HDD
[15:57] <SuperLag> no optical even.... I'm installing from a USB stick
[17:11] <SuperLag> bah
[17:12] <SuperLag> I can get 13.04 running in a VM just fine. Can't even use the damn installer to do a native install. Oh, the irony.
[17:32] <ironhalik> SuperLag: Actually, I think its easier to iron out bugs on universal VM then on myriad of different PCs out there ;>
[17:33] <SuperLag> ironhalik: no arguments here... except for the fact that I wouldn't run into these issues in a VM
[17:34] <SuperLag> ironhalik: so it'd be hard to know something was wrong, and/or track it down if you did know
[17:37] <ironhalik> yeah, those can by nasty surprises
[17:38] <ironhalik> Installing 12.10 beta, it would format my existing OS, then crash after that
[17:38] <ironhalik> :>
[17:38] <SuperLag> I've had crashers on 13.04, so I'm reinstalling 12.10
[17:38] <SuperLag> sad, because I like stuff that's in 13.04 (namely a native Python 3)
[17:39] <SuperLag> I'm considering doing an upgrade to 13.04... but I'm not sure yet
[17:39] <ironhalik> On my lappy, I use 12.10-upgraded-to-13.04
[17:39] <ironhalik> the upgrade process works ok, for me at least
[17:39] <SuperLag> any issues with the upgrad?
[17:39] <SuperLag> upgrade, that is
[17:40] <ironhalik> nah, works as intended
[17:43] <ironhalik> actually, its hard to believe its not even beta yet
[17:44] <SuperLag> hmm... update-manager -d doesn't show 13.04 as an option
[17:49] <ironhalik> try do-release-upgrade -d
[18:21] <SuperLag> here's to hoping that 3.8.0-11 doesn't have all the issues that 3.8.0-10 did... panic panic panic
[18:33] <SuperLag> nope. same stuff.
[18:33] <SuperLag> $@##@$%%@#$@#$%@#$%$@#5
[20:26] <krabador> then with rolling release model, no more #ubuntu+1?
[20:27] <jtaylor> or ubuntu+1 forever without closing down after a release
[20:28] <bjsnider> i would prefer the latter
[20:28] <jtaylor> though we probably can'T shoo people to #ubuntu anymore :(
[20:29] <bjsnider> well, if this channel becomes as noisy as that one, i'm outta here
[20:31] <krabador> #ubuntu-rolling, i don't think it so bad...
[21:52] <BarkingFish> evening guys - can someone give me a quick hand please? i've reverted my system - i'm still on raring, but due to kernel issues, i've taken myself right back to 3.5.0-22-generic.  I want to go to 3.8.0-2-generic, but can't - when i try to install, i'm told it's a virtual package with no candidate.
[21:52] <BarkingFish> any ideas on how to get round this at all?
[22:04] <bjsnider> BarkingFish, install linux-image-generic
[22:05] <BarkingFish> yeah, the prob is linux-image-generic is apparently 3.8.0-11.25
[22:05] <vivid> BarkingFish: its gone from the repository, youll need to find the packages
[22:05] <vivid> or, file a bug so kernel issues get resolved
[22:06] <BarkingFish> oh shut the front door :O  when you say "find the packages" are they likely to be archived somewhere in the servers?
[22:07] <vivid> probably not
[22:07] <bjsnider> BarkingFish, why can't you use the latest kernel?
[22:08] <BarkingFish> well that's a problem for me.  3.8.0-2 was the kernel where a local driver for my wifi was issued, and it worked until 3.8.0-3 came out, and it didn't work in anything from 3.8.0-3 onward.
[22:08] <BarkingFish> I wanted to go back to 3.8.0-2 and see if i could figure out what changed between those 2 kernels, and also get a local driver working again.
[22:10] <bjsnider> vivid, i think it's still there
[22:11] <vivid> apt-cache policy linux-image-3.8.0-2-generic shows nothing
[22:11] <bjsnider> right, but...
[22:11] <vivid> beyond that, i dont know where it would be
[22:12] <BarkingFish> bjsnider, you have an idea as to where it might have been shuffled off to, perhaps?
[22:14] <bjsnider> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/linux-image
[22:14] <bjsnider> now, those have been deleted, but you have source packages and changes files to use to build it yourself
[22:15] <BarkingFish> aha :)  now if there's a repo for x86, i'm laughing :)
[22:20] <bjsnider> yeah, switch the url to i386
[22:20] <BarkingFish> brilliant. cheers :)
[22:28] <iron_man> I would like to report a bug...
[22:28] <iron_man> the unity search button goes into a continuous loop when I search for stuff...
[22:28] <iron_man> this is on a macpro i7 retina