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belgianguymy my, there's plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth because of Mir00:02
belgianguywhy's everyone so upset?00:02
colemoralessooo im trying to make my mac into a ubuntu computer but when i try to boot from the usb stick i made after i click intall ubuntu it just stays at a blank screen00:02
colemoralesits very frustrating00:03
colemoraleshas anyone else had this problem00:03
MoPacbelgianguy: I haven't studied Mir in a lot of depth: I'm just hoping that it doesn't end up pushing me into a tiled-or-fullscreen setup on my desktop the way it is on my phone or on Windows 8.  I'm a diehard multiwindow multitasker00:03
belgianguyMoPac: as am I, but the little preview I saw was a tablet interface and something running Unity inside of mir00:04
__dan__belgianguy: probably because canonical have a reputation of being slightly arrogant (unity, anyone?) and seem to like going off doing their own thing rather than play with others00:05
__dan__see also: upstart00:06
__dan__hehe00:06
MoPacbelgianguy: Right, but what I'm wondering is: is Canonical going to make it either resource- or configuration-intensive or app-breaking for me to run a standard old-school desktop at some point?00:07
fertaku__Hola00:07
MoPacbelgianguy: case in point: ideally, I would want to run Cinnamon rather than Unity.  But because I have to layer it on top of all the other Ubuntu stuff that is meant to hook into Unity, it's actually such a nightmare in terms of both config and resource use that I have just ended up using Unity instead.00:07
MoPacI'm apprehensive that I might end up pushed through the same experience in a more dramatic way of Ubuntu goes the way of Windows 8 and ends up super determined to make my 16.4-inch screen experience the same as my 4-inch screen experience00:07
MoPac*if Ubuntu00:07
DAL|DesktopI'm running 10.04 LTS, will I break anything horribly if I uninstall the synaptic libc6 and manually install version 2.15+?00:08
kostkon!ot | belgianguy, MoPac, __dan__00:08
ubottubelgianguy, MoPac, __dan__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:08
__dan__thank the lord for KDE, eh? ;)00:08
bekksDAL|Desktop: Yes.00:08
DAL|Desktopbekks, I'll need to update to the lastest LTS to install Steam then?00:09
bekksDAL|Desktop: Yes.00:09
DAL|DesktopThanks.00:09
kostkonDAL|Desktop, yes, you need at least 12.04 in order to run steam00:10
zimzum77ubuntu plays windows game well??00:10
kostkon!wine | zimzum7700:11
ubottuzimzum77: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu00:11
__dan__zimzum77: I was just playing fallout 2 on my kubuntu machine earlier :)00:11
zimzum77NICE, i'm waitn for simcity, which i think is tomorrow00:12
kostkonzimzum77, the new sim city will have a linux version yes00:12
__dan__in the meantime, there are a couple of open source simcity variants you might like to try :)00:12
MoPacIs there any GUI for devilspie2?  The set_viewport function on devilspie seems to be totally broken, and I've run out of ideas after doing window rules in Compiz turned out to be hellish00:12
zimzum77really?? i'll have to go look00:13
zimzum77and them are open source too?00:13
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__dan__yeah i think it's called lincity00:13
__dan__originally enough :)00:13
__dan__not sure whether the monster is a 40-foot penguin though00:13
prafulranaHey guys how do I set a global ulimit for no of file descriptors ?00:13
zimzum77hhaha  WUT??00:13
__dan__haha just saying, if i coded it, the monster would definitely be a 40-foot penguin00:14
zimzum77LOL  nice00:14
__dan__and it would only stomp on windows users00:14
zimzum77: )00:14
__dan__haha00:14
kostkon__dan__, we are talking about this :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCity_%282013_video_game%2900:14
zimzum77YES!!00:14
zimzum77kostkon,  YUP :)   that is it00:15
__dan__yeah i meant this http://freecode.com/projects/lincity-ng00:15
zimzum77that  looks cool i'll give it a try00:17
__dan__been a while since i played a game like that00:18
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classichola00:18
__dan__prefer the counterstrike series and star trek online :)00:19
classicNecesito ayuda para usar ubuntu server00:19
classicYa lo tengo instalado, pero que hago ahora.00:19
__dan__sorry classic no habla espanol00:19
kostkonzimzum77, fyi, the original sim city is in the repos00:19
kostkon!info micropolis00:19
ubottumicropolis (source: micropolis-activity): real-time city management simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.20071228-5 (quantal), package size 349 kB, installed size 824 kB00:19
zimzum77nice00:20
zimzum77: )00:20
ApesDoes it have angry Wright?00:20
classici have install ubuntu server, but not understand how work00:20
__dan__i had the first simcity on the amiga but for me, the proper one was simcity 200000:20
kostkonApes, no clue :(00:20
xFertakuOmg.00:20
Random832kostkon: holy crap00:20
xFertakuIt have been years since I used irc.00:21
xFertakulol00:21
kostkonRandom832, :P00:21
nobottynostalgia :)00:21
xFertakuIndeed.00:21
__dan__having quite a retro moment in here tonight :)00:21
caravelhello everyone \o/00:22
__dan__lets all manually set our IRQs with jumpers00:22
__dan__eheh00:22
xFertakuHello! :D00:22
__dan__hi caravel00:22
caravelAre there known issues with latest updates of libssl/openssl/whatever is using Evolution to validate server certs on... 10.04 ? :)00:22
caravelI get these in loops immediately after applying updates http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-yh196200:23
Bray90820so i just installed another linux disto alongside ubuntu 12.04 how would i update grub so i can boot the other one00:23
p0s__dan__: i found a package which does the job of tuning the powertop tunables automatically at booting. laptop-mode-tools it is.00:23
p0s__dan__: requires no configuration at all00:23
caravel[...] (both providers, Free.fr and Gmail.com)00:23
__dan__awesome p0s :) thanks for taking the time to let me know :)00:23
p0s__dan__: you helped me as well :)00:24
__dan__cool just having a look at it now :)00:25
__dan__caravel: i wonder if your trusted root certificates are out of date or something00:25
__dan__caravel: the error message doesnt really tell you much :/00:25
Bray90820anyone know how i would update grub to see my other linux partitions00:25
caravel__dan__: well, it says the signature isn't valid00:26
caravel__dan__: and I'd doubt my old mother suddenly got the victim of a MITM attack right at the time I updated the stuff :)00:26
__dan__hahaha00:27
caravelfrom the dpkg log:00:27
caravel2013-03-05 23:25:29 upgrade openssl 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.1400:27
caravel2013-03-05 23:23:50 upgrade libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.1400:27
caravel(and no particular errors)00:27
caravelevolution itself wasn't upgraded00:28
zimzum77retro, i see in game some OLD SCHOOL  SNES!!00:28
TheLordOfTimeBray90820, ideally, `sudo update-grub`, but that assumes there's OSes on the other partitions.00:28
John12um is there any mods here?00:29
Bray90820TheLordOfTime there is00:29
John12or some one that really want to help some one..00:29
Bray90820i installed android00:29
__dan__caravel: my guess is, there will be another update in a few days, and that error message will disappear ;)00:29
Bray90820i already tried sudo update-grub and grub doesn't even popup when i restart00:30
caravel__dan__: huh, that's first time I see such thing on a LTS00:30
* caravel was lucky maybe ? :)00:30
__dan__haha thats one way of looking at it :)00:30
caravel__dan__: and... is 10.04 still getting sec updates?00:30
__dan__caravel: i'm not sure to be honest, maybe not on the desktop anymore00:30
caravelthought it was EOL by now, and that I had applied the last bunch00:31
Bray90820TheLordOfTime what i'm thinking is Android removed grub00:31
caravelok thanks __dan__00:31
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caravelmaybe, many users will panic in turn soon :)00:31
TheLordOfTimeBray90820, Wait, are you on a tablet or something?00:32
__dan__caravel: yeah haha, maybe an upgrade to 12.04 is in order :)00:32
caravelsure that's planed __dan__, I only miss a plane ticket :)00:32
__dan__ahhhh haha i understand :)00:32
* caravel won't risk it over ssh, not brave enough (or too much experience hahahaha)00:32
Bray90820i am on a touchscreen netbook00:33
guideXhow do I always open something as root, say gedit00:33
__dan__yeah I would hesitate ... although my experience of version upgrades on kubuntu has been very good00:33
guideXin windows for instance there's a run as administrator option00:33
__dan__guideX: i think it's gksu under gnome / unity00:33
guideXoh i'm using xfce00:33
guideXsorry00:34
__dan__try gksu anyway00:34
guideXok00:34
__dan__i'm more familiar with kde :)00:34
caravel__dan__: my alternative strategy is to train my sister a little more on shell :) screen -S is good but I still feel she's got a little more way to go :)00:34
guideXhmm it only works on the first load00:35
Bray90820TheLordOfTime do you know why grub won't even show up after teh android install00:35
guideXso when I close it, and reopen it is running under my context again00:35
guideXor is there a way to set the whole directory i'm in for me to be able to write to it?00:35
caravelguideX: you might want to avoid this generally00:36
__dan__caravel: sounds like your sister is already more useful than some windows admins hahah00:36
caravelI mean, opening any X stuff as root00:36
guideXwell how else can I edit a file without dropping to the terminal?00:36
__dan__gksu gedit /etc/yourfile.txt00:36
caravel__dan__: yeah, I got her to self install her 12-04 on full luks :D00:37
guideXwell yeah but, that only works the first time, I must open the terminal every time to do it00:37
TheLordOfTimeBray90820, no, because I've never installed android alongside Ubuntu.  you may want to wait for someone more knowledgeable.00:37
__dan__so run gksu gedit00:37
__dan__then open the files you want from within gedit and keep it running00:37
caravelguideX: worst case, you could stick some extension for your gnome-shell or whatever DE you use00:37
Bray90820i could just wipe grub from my /boot partition and reinstall it00:37
__dan__isn't there an option in xubuntu to run a root file explorer?00:38
caraveli.e. right click > open as root00:38
__dan__or whatever its called?00:38
guideXhmm that's an idea..00:38
__dan__pcfm innit?00:38
guideXit's weird how i can't edit the file, yet it's in my home directory00:38
guideXis this a glitch of some kind or00:38
__dan__permissions probably set to root for that file individually00:38
__dan__chown is your friend00:38
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__dan__and ls -l00:38
penthls -l and check permissions.00:39
caravelguideX: and I remember also a panel applet for this (you could drag stuff, it would pass it to gksu/whatever needed)00:39
guideXoh cool00:39
guideXi'll check that out too00:39
mguyIs there a good CPU/RAM monitor that I can put in my menubar or whatever it is with the clock etc00:39
guideXoh you're right, the whole folder is root00:39
caravelguideX: but please avoid the "always open as root" track, for your own good00:39
guideXbecause root created00:39
guideXah there's no security needed here, it's a dev server :D00:40
penthmguy, I don't know about the notification bar, but conky is great for that sort of thing00:40
guideXso if the permissions are set to root, how do I change to me?00:40
guideXbecause it's in my home folder.. so I meant for it to be me00:40
WeThePeopleis it possible to route audio to the rj11 output?00:41
WeThePeopleon ubuntu00:41
guideXif I right click and choose properties, I can't edit the permissions on the permissions tab, it's grayed out00:41
Bray90820TheLordOfTime i could uninstall and reinstall grub00:41
__dan__did you try running your file manager as root?00:41
guideXhmm I don't know how to run the file manager from the terminal...00:42
guideXI know how to sudo su and such..00:42
guideXbut I don't know the command for file manager00:42
John12can some one tell me how in the world i can install the ubuntu on my phone00:43
guideXdo you know what it is?00:43
__dan__nor do i on xfce00:43
guideXah ok00:43
John12do i hack the phone00:43
John12do i buy a other phone or what?00:43
__dan__guideX: thunar?00:43
John12i keep geting errors00:43
__dan__John12: you might want to stop by xda-developers00:44
guideXah ok00:44
guideXcool00:44
John12same thing00:44
John12i get status 7 error00:44
John12assert failed getprop00:44
* __dan__ gets a whiff of a small green man00:45
zimzum77mguy, i think maybe this?? http://conky.sourceforge.net/00:45
mguypenth: indicator-multiload is what I went with00:45
John12you think the ubuntu not out yet for the android?00:46
__dan__some android phones / tablets will allow a ubuntu chroot00:46
__dan__ie. running ubuntu from within android00:46
__dan__i had it working on my hp touchpad a while back00:47
John12i have nexus s 4g00:47
John12https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup00:47
__dan__but it was hard work00:47
John12i done that, but again, it saids that error when i upload it to my sdcard00:47
__dan__i dunno man00:47
guideXis there another way to do it? changing the permissions in a root thunar session isn't working00:48
__dan__and on that note i think i will bid you guys farewell00:48
__dan__good night all :)00:48
zimzum77mguy,  sry this is what you want         http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html00:48
guideXcya dan..00:48
zimzum77peace00:48
guideXdoes anyone know a way to change folder/file permissions?00:48
guideXi'm having a hellofatime00:48
mguyguideX: chmod00:48
guideXhmm ok00:49
JeruvyguideX chown00:49
guideXhmm crap, I don't know how to use it.. how do you get help from these?00:49
mguyguideX: type 'man chown' at the terminal00:50
mguyBetter yet google 'filesystem permissions linux'00:50
John12btw00:50
guideXah ok cool00:50
John12is this room a scam? #ubuntu-touch00:50
John12i'm trying to report it, but i can't00:50
kostkonJohn12, ??00:50
John12i can't report the room for bots00:51
alainusi want to try kde but not sure whether to do a clean install of kubuntu. is it safe to just do sudo apt-get install kde-full ?00:51
kostkonJohn12, it's the official channel for ubuntu touch00:51
John12it's like then join and leave and joinh and leave00:51
guideXhmm it says "Invalid User"00:51
guideXwhen I try chown /u guiideX00:51
guideXerr guideX00:51
guideXknow what i'm doing wrong?00:52
mguyYou would use 'chown guideX somefile'00:52
guideXah ok00:52
mguyBut that's changing the owner not the permissions.00:53
guideXhmm maybe it'd be easier to delete everything and download again..00:53
mguyWhat are you trying to do?00:53
guideXwell I can't change any files or folders in my home directory00:53
guideXunless I sudo in the terminal00:53
mguyGo to the /home directory (not /home/guidex) and type in ls -l, what's the line look like with your home folder on it00:54
guideXso I keep shelling to terminal, then running geany, then closing it, repeat, it's taking forever00:54
guideXhm ok00:54
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guideXhmm it says drwxr-xr-x 2800:55
mguyWhat's the whole line?00:55
dr_willisthe full output.. will tell owership then group00:56
berto-anyone familiar with setting up networking for lxc that works in a virtualbox vm?00:56
nathwillhi all, i'm stuck with adding a statusnet account to gwibber. the old accounts screen has been replaced by the online accounts section, which doesn't reference statusnet at all00:56
guideXhmm it's drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 mar 6 00:3400:56
mguyguideX: Paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/00:56
guideXfor most of the stuff00:56
dr_willisguideX:  and whats your users name?00:56
mguyguideX:  That file is owned by root - you probably wnt to change that00:56
guideXguideX00:56
dr_willisarent user names all lower case?00:56
ner0xCan anyone suggest a financial manager that can connect to your bank account and also allow you to attach scans/invoices to certain purchases?00:57
guideXhmm dunno...00:57
mguychown -R guidex:guidex guidex00:57
guideXhmm ok cool let me try that00:57
dr_willis!permissiona | guideX00:57
dr_willis!permissions | guideX00:57
ubottuguideX: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:57
mguysudo chown that is...00:57
guideXoo i think it worked00:58
guideXyep it worked, thanks :)00:58
dr_willisyou need to set the owner of your users files to be owned by  tghe user and group  'guidex'00:58
mguyWhat did you do to screw it up?00:58
guideXwell nothing seems to work unless I sudo su first, so that's my usual workaround00:58
dr_willisno idea why things would get owned by root. unless you moved things from a usb, or other ways as root00:58
guideXfor instance, I can't do anythign with svn unless I sudo su00:59
dr_willisguideX:  do NOT use sudo su. use the normal sudo -s or sudo -i00:59
guideXah ok00:59
guideXI was unaware00:59
dr_willisand you really shouldent need to be root to use svn UNLESS your permerssions and ownership of files are wrong to begin with00:59
guideXwell most of my files are coming from svn01:00
guideXso I'm not sure how it's bringing them down..01:00
guideXI thinmk the files were in windows before that01:00
MysticalBurrito[Back, my mom nagged me about my homework for a while >_>01:00
dr_willisi would suggest reading up on that permissions wiki page to learn about them. I dont use svn so no idea on any good guides on it.01:00
dr_willis!svn01:00
ubottusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/01:00
guideXit's a way to download and upload source code, go back to older versions, etc01:01
guideXI wouldn't use it if i had a choice heh..01:01
dr_willisand it dosent make much sence that it needs to be ran as root.01:01
guideXthe windowed version doesn't have to, but for xfce there isn't a windowed version of it, just the terminal.. anyhow, the command works fine, so i can just alter the permissions after svning moving forward01:02
guideXkinda silly, that's ok01:02
guideXI will read up on that page though01:02
dr_willissounds more likle theres somthing fundamentally wrong about how you are doing things..01:02
dr_willisjust because its a cli interface dosent mean it runs as root.01:03
guideXprobably true01:03
dr_willisand there may  be gui front ends out for it.01:03
guideXoh of course01:03
guideXnot for xfce :(01:03
guideXI wish01:03
guideXthere's on for unity and gnome01:04
dr_williserr.. you can run gnome and kde apps in xfce01:04
dr_willisand visa versa01:04
dr_willismakes no differance01:04
dr_willisxfce is like 60% gnome to begin with01:04
guideXill have to figure that out, currently, it only works in gnome + unity01:04
guideXin xfce it doesn't sjhow up in the menus at all01:04
dr_willisinstall the app.. it pulls in needed items.. run it from terminal if you cant find the icon01:04
dasound08Hello and good evening..01:05
guideXoh right, but it's a shell integration usuyally01:05
guideXit shows up automatically in the menus for me,01:05
guideXif it's not there, it's just not heh01:05
dr_willisyou mean in the file manager? you can run nautilus in xfce if you wanted to01:05
dasound08is anyone having issues with flash player in 12.04lts01:05
guideXoh cool maybe that's why01:05
dasound08It is not allowing me to play sound in browser01:06
mguydasound08: Are you using the one in Chrome or the plugin01:06
dasound08I have used both.. neither are working..01:07
mguyDo you have ANY sound in your system?01:09
dr_willisive noticed flash seems to have its own volume controlls for me - differnt then the normal system/gnome volumes..   i can mute the system sounds, vlc and so forth.. and flash still makes noise.. sometimes it gets reversed..  flash is muted.. but others play. ;) i recall twiddling with the volume slider in the flash videos..  that may  not be the same issue as you are having.01:09
guideXalso is there a way to fix the scrollwheel in ubuntu 12.10?01:11
guideXit seems like it's not working anywhere..01:11
Maverick|420server montreal.qc.ca.undernet.org01:12
guideXnope freenode :D01:13
dr_willisguideX:  works for most people.. you may want to check at askubuntu.com to see if any known issues/troubleshooting guides are out for that issue01:13
guideXok cool01:13
guideXmaybe it's because i'm in virtualbox...01:14
guideXi'll try the askubuntu01:14
dr_willisdont forget the vbox guest addations01:15
guideXoh I can't install them, I tried that.. upon installing the guest addons, the virtual machine freezes then never boots again01:15
guideXtried several times heh01:15
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aiFrantzhi (don't know what to do and I'm feeling bored)01:20
guideXI get that alot heh01:20
guideXrecently I said that in an irc channel and someone said, "learn c++" so I did heh01:20
aiFrantzhehe..01:21
aiFrantzc++ is way too mainstream.01:21
aiFrantzwe need something novel though..01:21
Trojan-Script1I UCCN alerts Flooding01:21
Trojan-Script1?01:21
guideXtrojan-script: my irc client blocked your query request lol01:22
Trojan-Script1^o)01:22
fertaku:)01:22
fertakuxD01:22
aiFrantz*ehem* who is in the middle of class now? (like me for instance)01:23
guideXi'm at work01:23
aiFrantzbless you because you aren't drilled by the lecturer to write stuffs01:23
zimzum77no one in middle class, no such thing01:23
aiFrantzno such thing as in? zimzum7701:23
zimzum77middle class01:24
aiFrantzoh, sorry..01:24
zimzum77sorry man, i jumped the gun01:24
aiFrantz*in the class* I mean01:24
zimzum77my bad : p01:24
aiFrantzmy bad too..01:24
aiFrantzcan someone set up CS server so I can shoot to ease my tension?01:25
aiFrantz...or, our tension01:25
aiFrantzoh, btw... here is like GMT +801:25
zimzum77does  any one  know, do these  work like win gagets01:25
zimzum77http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html01:25
aiFrantzcheckin'01:26
dr_willisconky is not a gadget01:26
dr_willisits more of a sysrem monitor01:26
aiFrantzyea, conky is not a gadget01:26
zimzum77ok, but  they  monitor01:27
zimzum77right on01:27
aiFrantzI think it is more like to beautify the desktop with circles, beeps and stuffs01:27
zimzum77haha01:27
dr_willisconky has been around for ages..01:28
aiFrantzreal men dont use gadgets.. they use conky01:28
zimzum77what  the diff, between terminal, x terminal, and ux terminal??01:28
aiFrantzbecause windows gadgets are too mainstream... well, are they?01:28
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FloodBot1RxDalfZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:28
dr_williszimzum77:  feature set.01:29
aiFrantzxterminal is the x's terminal.. I mean, the Xorg.01:29
dr_willisxterm has been the standard for decades01:29
zimzum77so they can do differt commands??01:29
dr_willisthey run the same stuffs01:30
zimzum77bear wit me , i noob01:30
aiFrantzyeah, they can run the same stuffs..01:30
dr_willis!terminal01:30
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:30
guideXi'm surprised people don't use the geany terminal :D01:30
aiFrantzzimzum77 there is no such thing as "noob".. only less educated :P01:30
dr_willisnever noticed or needed geany for a termibal01:30
aiFrantzhehe.. no offense, and I'm bored to death.01:30
aiFrantzso, bear with me..01:31
dr_willisi tend to use   terminator01:31
zimzum77hahaha, that be me01:31
guideXdr_willis: at the bottom of the geany window, there's several buttons "status", "compiler", "message"01:31
guideXand terminal01:31
aiFrantzdr_willis everyone says so.. terminator is kinda a great terminal emulator though01:31
guideXso it's like an integrated terminal window :) pretty cool01:31
dr_willisi rarely code.01:31
guideXah ok01:31
dr_willisat one time nautilus had a terminal on a f key.01:32
dr_willisbut i got removed i recall01:32
aiFrantzdr_willis: we can customize that hotkeys thingy, can't we?01:32
aiFrantzI had done this before on something other than nautilus01:32
aiFrantzpcmanfm if I'm not mistaken01:33
dr_willisdifferent filemanagers may have the feature01:33
aiFrantzahh I see01:33
aiFrantzso.. then, what's your preference? I bet nobody likes nautilus.01:33
aiFrantzin term of responsiveness, I mean01:33
dr_willisnautilus works fine for most people01:36
aiFrantzso, everyone.. have all of you heard about the new server, called as Mir?01:37
aiFrantzcanonical wanna replace xorg with Mir01:37
dr_willisbbl. got a job to do.01:37
aiFrantzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec MirSpec01:37
aiFrantzdr_willis: have a nice day ! :)01:38
|Anthony|I'm having trouble getting a samba share to work with ubuntu as the server and debian as the client01:40
|Anthony|i can connect, but it's a user permissions issue i'm having01:40
|Anthony|any pointers?01:40
aiFrantzhurm... ubuntu = samba server, debian = client? hurm.. ok (I thought people use debian for server stuffs... lol)01:41
|Anthony|lol01:41
|Anthony|yeah, it's an odd use case here for sure01:41
|Anthony|funny thing is that the deb box is a server01:41
|Anthony|i need it to do backups to my desktop01:41
|Anthony|lol01:41
aiFrantznearly got puked.. if it is Windows, I might be dead now..01:41
aiFrantzerm.. sorry. I'm no expert for this.... just wandering around for fun..01:42
ubuntu-newbis there any guide to using dual monitors with intel hd3000 somewhere?01:43
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CazyArsMuthello, can someone help me out? crackle and youtube and hulu full screen all make my computer go dead. - i think it is my cheappy 310m nvidia graphics ion little chip.01:43
aiFrantzubuntu-newb: maybe you can try something like xrandr or grandr setting01:43
aiFrantzI experimented dual-monitor thingy on nVidia 8400gs by using xrandr-grandr01:43
ubuntu-newbxrandr is just temporary... i want it to be permanent01:44
aiFrantzmaybe you can google it :)01:44
aiFrantzhrm.. so, xrandr kinda bothering you? eh?01:44
aiFrantzdon't know how to turn it on permanently01:44
aiFrantzsorry :'(01:44
ubuntu-newbwell the desktop does not scale to the resolution...01:44
ubuntu-newbso it is just up in the corner after i changed the resolution01:45
CazyArsMutyup i am not the only one with graphics issues01:45
[Saint]Most monitors have an "auto" mode that should "just work" there.01:45
ubuntu-newbI should write and xorg.conf but it has been ages since i did dual monitors on linux and also that time it was with an nvidia card01:45
ubuntu-newb[Saint]: The problem is i have to set modelines manually for the large screen as DPMS still does not work properly in linux.01:46
ubuntu-newbso i probably need an xorg.conf anyways01:46
[Saint]Occasionally when I change resolutions or add/remove a monitor (triple head setup with a laptop) the resolution goes all weird - I just have to hit "auto" on the display.01:46
[Saint]I guess I'm lucky.01:46
KionI am trying to do an apt-get update but get this error and the process stops01:47
KionE: Encountered a section with no Package: header01:47
KionE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en01:47
CazyArsMutmy monitor goes black and sound goes out all of a sudden when watching a hulu or youtube vid, after about 10 minuets01:47
ubuntu-newbxrandr claims my large screen can only do 1024x769 whilst it does 2536x* in windows01:47
Kionany help please?01:47
CazyArsMutsorry kion - past my skill sthere - but let me look in, might find you a clue01:48
Bray90820Anyone know how to remove and reinstall grub from ubuntu01:48
[Saint]Boot-Repair01:48
[Saint]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair01:49
KionCazyArsMut: thanks, the last line reads:  Could not analyze or read the lists of packages or the state file.01:49
CazyArsMutKion, did you try to use the updater gui?01:49
KionCazyArsMut: first thing in the morning the auto update process went and told me of an error, then I tried in a terminal!01:50
[Saint]Kion: I take it this was your first stop?01:50
[Saint]if you google "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en" exactly, you'll find it hasd been answered multiple times.01:51
[Saint]Protip: Google first ;)01:51
Kion[Saint]: sorry I don't know why I didn't think of googoling it first!01:51
CazyArsMutwhen that happens to me, i just restart, then let everything load for a min then sign in, then let everything catch up again, then run the uploader again, be patient, select to install updates and if it does it again, i'm lost Kion01:51
KionCazyArsMut: Did that, with the same bad result01:52
CazyArsMutKion, that method has worked for me without fail01:52
CazyArsMutdanget01:52
MatthewL!yum01:52
ubottuUh, don't you mean !apt ?01:52
[Saint]http://goo.gl/4Fw6y <-- there you go ;)01:52
CazyArsMutok01:52
MatthewLI love you,  ubottu01:53
CazyArsMutKion could no read....states of file - it looks like you don't have the packages for the files, or looks like you have lost some data in the, i want to say 'grub' but i dont think that's it.01:53
rajwhere do I find the package libperl-text-aspell ?01:53
CazyArsMutKion, did you get the restricted updates?01:54
dibblegohello, when I plug in an external blu-ray writer (Samsung SE-506AB) I do not see it listed in lsusb — is this because of some proprietary software needed?01:54
CazyArsMutyou might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion01:54
CazyArsMutdibblego, did you pop a blank dick in there and see what happenned?01:55
CazyArsMutomg  so sorry01:55
dibblegoYes01:55
dibblegohaha01:55
CazyArsMutsdisk, disk01:55
KionCazyArsMut: I think i got the restricted updates, and I didnt install anything between now and last successfull update01:55
dibblegowell no, but I put a disk in there instead!01:55
CazyArsMuthahaha01:56
CazyArsMutyikes01:56
CazyArsMutsorry01:56
[Saint][14:54:40] <CazyArsMut> you might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion  <--- if that's the case, then, it is incredibly broken. As it should make sure of its dependencies.01:56
CazyArsMuti dont know what to say dibblego01:56
maxbMy SE-506AB just worked without additional config (except for bluray video of course)01:56
[Saint]that's a convoluted way of me saying "almost certainly not the cause"01:56
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CazyArsMutbut Kion you can make sure by openning software center, then typing 'restricted' and checking if there is a little green checkmark next to it01:57
Kion[Saint]: But I have not installed any new program !01:57
dibblegomaxb: oh ok thanks, maybe some other problem then01:57
KionCazyArsMut: The software center will not open anymore because of the same problem01:57
KionCazyArsMut: it crashes!01:57
CazyArsMutyeah yeah - that's probably it - i would remove it Kion and then get the updates - or rad a bit more up on it's 'dependencies' then try to run it again after they have been met - Kion01:58
[Saint]Awwwwwwwwww....what :-S01:58
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[Saint]I thought 13.04 gave me back the weather icon gadget...but it's a silly Ubuntu One thingy :P01:58
KionCazyArsMut: remove what?01:58
* [Saint] wants his weather gadget back01:58
CazyArsMutcrap Kion - all i can tell you is that you should get an ssd and a fast processor and fast ram - 8gb preffered - and then run a new installation - i say ssd so you can install in 15 minuets - also if you have usb 3.0 you can run off flash much faster for demos and ghost riding  hehehe - before you do any of that - get your data backed up on an external hard drive01:59
dibblegomaxb: Can you please tell me the output of lsusb with your SE-506AB? Also, I should be able to play a regular DVD from it right?01:59
CazyArsMutKion, remove the faulty program that won't update02:00
KionCazyArsMut: If I could only know which is it?02:00
CazyArsMutit looks like you have issues with the language dept02:01
CazyArsMutthe translators_en part is a giveaway02:01
[Saint]"upgrade your hardware" is about the worst fucking software advice I have ever heard.02:01
[Saint]Thanks for that, made my day ;)02:01
CazyArsMuthonestly i would just re-install Kion and salvage my important data02:01
ViperX#anime02:01
[Saint]Also a highly stupid course of action.02:01
[Saint]"reinstall the OS" should never be a "solution" to such a problem.02:02
[Saint]Never.02:02
IdleOne!language | [Saint]02:02
ubottu[Saint]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:02
KionCazyArsMut: Well.... I ve got tons of important software installed the hard way.. I mean by having to compile from source and It would take a long time to get it back to normal02:02
RokkrossWait, if there's a language rule why doesn't the bot just have a badwords list that autokicks people?02:03
RokkrossInstead of waiting for people to mini-mod02:03
RokkrossI mean obviously the bot isn't opped, but it -could- be02:03
[Saint]Kion: out of interest - did you try google - where this has been asked and answered several times? ;)02:03
[Saint]I wasn't joking when I suggested it, or linked to a page showing you the fact.02:04
IdleOnebecause the bot would then be abused, and we prefer to explain the rules instead of enforcing the rules with kicks and bans.02:04
Kion[Saint]: I did, and have only read one solution that seems rather a security breach than a real solution to me02:04
RokkrossHow would the bot be abused?02:04
RokkrossI don't understand.02:04
CazyArsMutcrap man - oh - did you try to get a better location to gt updates from? it might be that your mirror or server location is bunk Kion02:04
Kion[Saint]: they say open you sources.lst and delete everything and copy and paste this!02:04
|Anthony|yeah, so i'm confused on this... to setup a samba server, do i need to have user accounts on both the client and server?02:04
|Anthony|this is really confusing me02:05
KionCazyArsMut: how do I get a better location, by using a internet proxy?02:05
maxbdibblego: Unfortunately I left it at my office, so I can't right now. I've played both DVDs and Blurays on it subject to navigating the pains of the copyprotection02:05
[Saint]Kion: repairing the sources list is exactly what you need to do.02:05
KionCazyArsMut: in the system settings02:05
dibblegomaxb: ok no worries, what are the hurdles with copy protection?02:05
Kion[Saint]: yes, I agree, how do I do that?02:05
CazyArsMutKion - that's why when I reinstall and do my processes all over again from scratch I am going to make a history of action - So i can always just go back to my cloud doc and follow instructions to get it back to how it was before a breakdown.02:05
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[Saint]chroot - liveCD - whatever, you just need to get a known good copy on there.02:06
|Anthony|trying to do backups from a debian server to an ubuntu desktop. and i'm not sure how the user authentication goes02:06
[Saint]Ask Google.02:06
CazyArsMutok - Kion open the updater02:06
[Saint]CazyArsMut: he's already said the updater GUI crashes has he not?02:06
CazyArsMutKion - click on settings after it finishes starting up02:07
[Saint]see above.02:07
maxbdibblego: For DVDs, the usual "You need to install libdvdcss", for Bluray, the need to obtain key material from internet sites of dubious legitimacy, and even then there's no solution at all for newer discs02:07
dibblegomaxb: oh ok, so that's the next step after I can get it up and running, cheers02:07
[Saint]The first thing the updater does when it launches is check the sources list - which is invalid - which is (apparently) the problem.02:07
OerHeksmaxb there is > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD02:07
randimillerAnyone have a suggestion for screencast software? A teacher asked me to do a screencast on using Ubuntu, but I haven't done one on anything but windows before02:08
KionThanks guys... I have to go unfortunately, they are closing the office and have to go home02:08
KionI will connect in 10 minutes02:08
CazyArsMuti thought it crashes after you try to complete a download - you don't need to do that right now, you are just changing 'software sources' 'download from'02:08
Kionthanks all02:08
Guest83386Hello, I appear to be having problems with my wireless printer02:08
CazyArsMutdoes it automatically crash Kion?02:08
CazyArsMutlol he quit02:08
maxbOerHeks: That page is fine as far as it goes, but doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys02:09
CazyArsMutcool - the dude lives next to his office  lol how nutzy is that?02:09
CazyArsMuti wana live 10 minuets from work02:09
nagchampawhy does ubuntu seem to want to force 96 dpi in X?02:09
OerHeksmaxb, or this tread > http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc02:09
nagchampashouldnt' it read the actual dpi from the monitor if available?02:09
Guest83386I am new to Ubuntu and linux as I have come from Windows. I have been trying to set up my wireless printer but I can't seem to figure it out02:10
xanguaGuest83386: you mean wifi¿02:10
RokkrossGuest83386: Have you tried googling yet? There's probably a comprehensive guide somewhere.02:11
dr_williswhat make printer?02:11
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RokkrossWe'd love to help, but it's preferable that you at least try a little research first.02:11
dr_willisor its as simple as using the cups web interface and addprinter - scan02:11
Guest83386I have tried Googling. I know how to get to the interface to set it up, I just can't connect as I am not quite sure which method and information to use02:11
dr_williscups web interface -->    http://localhost:63102:11
dr_willismany networked printers show up and can use different methods.02:12
maxbOerHeks: Still doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys. I don't think there's any solution for that02:12
dr_willisi found mine works well with ipp: on linuc02:12
xanguaGuest83386: did you already sync the printer with your wifi¿02:12
Guest83386Sorry, but I have just began using this OS in order to make my weaker netbook usable again. I am new to linux, so I have opened up Chrome and went to http://localhost:63102:13
Guest83386I try to access administration but it asks for login info?02:13
dr_willisit wants the sudo password02:13
maxbdibblego: I had an idea - your SE-506AB isn't in its weird media emulation mode, is it?02:13
Guest83386Xangua, yes. I have it working on Windows laptops02:14
dibblegomaxb: its what what?02:14
dibblegomaxb: the 1 page instruction said something about "AV mode" — I have no idea what that is02:14
Guest83386dr_willis, thank you02:14
Guest31469Hi i'm new to this chat and i have a question about Mozilla Thunderbird. its stuck in a full screen mode where i am not able to access the "x", the minimize button, or the maximize/minimize buttons. or the whole top menu bar for that matter. can anyone help me out??02:14
Quex01niggerniggernigger02:15
subcoolHey, someone mentioned that i can backup my configs, before i reformat. - How do i do that. Im kinda confused on what it meant anyways. I have my home director on a seperate partition.02:15
dr_willisGuest83386:  i rarely use the cups tools. i tend to always use the cups web interface.. just seems to work better for me02:15
maxbdibblego: The SE-506AB has a bizarre mode where it attempts to emulate exposing a CD containing audio/video files as a USB flash disk or something like that02:15
xanguaGuest83386: and what brand is¿ if it's supported you just open the dash, search for Printer settings, select the add option and it should appear02:15
dr_willissubcool:  you customized any files in /etc/ ?02:15
dibblegomaxb: oh that might be it, I will check it out, thanks!02:15
YokoBRguys, please,  i'm getting this error while compiling kernel modules on 3.7 kernels. error: ‘VM_RESERVED’ undeclared (first use in this function)02:15
Guest83386I still seem to be having problems logging in02:16
subcooldr_willis, got me. lol02:16
maxbdibblego: IIRC the mode toggle involves holding the eject button whilst the drive tray is open, and paying attention to the LED to know which mode it is in02:16
subcoolpersonally- no. if someone helped me- maybe..02:16
subcooldr_willis,02:16
dibblegomaxb: yeah the instruction says something like that02:16
dr_willissubcool:  guess you dont wory about it then. just be sure to NOT format your home partition during an install02:16
Guest83386Xangua: It's a Canon Pixma MX86002:16
dr_willisGuest83386:  canon is famous..   for bad linux support..02:17
dr_willisGuest83386:  you may want to check askubuntu.com cups.org and the linuxprinting.org sites to see if its supported at all.02:17
YokoBRdr_willis, not more than AMD02:17
dr_willisyes.. more then amd...02:18
dr_willisonly worse company then canon.. i can think of is 'SiS'02:18
Taevwhats the name of the login manager for unity, like kdm is for kde02:18
Guest83386Ah okay, but how do I login to CUPS?02:18
randimillerany suggestions on screencasting software?02:18
Taevand how do i via the console make the unity login manager the chief one02:18
YokoBRdr_willis, i thought that SiS was dead02:18
dr_willisGuest83386:  i just use my main users name/password02:19
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Rokkrossrandimiller: Live or just recording in general?02:19
randimillerRokkross, recording in general02:19
Rokkrossrecordmydesktop is good.02:19
dr_willisYokoBR:  nope.. about once a week we get a sis user in here02:19
RokkrossNot sure if it's live02:19
randimillerRokkross, thanks will give that a try02:19
rats_Recordmydesktop randimiller works02:19
RokkrossBe sure to install recordmydesktop-gtk if you want a graphical frontend for it.02:19
subcoolgreat- thanks dr_jesus02:19
Rokkrossat least I think that's what it's called02:19
subcooldr_willis,02:19
Guest83386Ah I must have been typing something wrong. Sorry about that. However, I am still confused on how to add my printer02:20
dr_willistheres a manage -> add printer item on that page Guest8983302:20
dr_willisGuest83386:  the page should have links to the cups docs also.02:20
YokoBRdr_willis, poor devils..02:20
dibblegomaxb: http://i.imgur.com/GrzCqvm.jpg02:20
Guest83386Okay I am looking into it, thank you02:21
rats_randimiller:  imagination is good for slide show type vids02:21
xanguaGuest83386: assuming it is supported, you just select the add option> netword printer in Printer settings02:21
YokoBRanyone with HD 4XXX series AND xorg 1.13 or newest kernels AND fglrx-legacy (makson96)02:21
Taevnm how do i switch back to the default login display, and not kdm02:21
maxbdibblego: Yes, that. I guess verify you can turn that on and off, and then make sure it's off02:23
Guest83386It does not appear supported on the CUPS website, however I believe the driver is available. Also, there is PIXMA MX350, I have PIXMAD MX86002:23
dibblegomaxb: oh it was already off, so I just turned it on02:24
YokoBRomg, i can't believe that i'll have to downgrade to 12.04 just to install amd driver02:24
dibblegomaxb: I still do not see it with lsusb :(02:25
ViperX#help02:25
bsnlI'm new to linux and trying to install http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html but don't know how to follow these directions02:26
knoppieshi, what is the difference between downloading 12.04.2 and using a 12.04 iso and updating? Is there any difference?02:27
jribknoppies: you'll use more bandwidth one way02:27
alainushi .. i can-t resize the main ubuntu partition .. even though there-s a lot of unallocated space ... it doesn-t let me.. here-s my setup.. http://imgur.com/6AiNTLG .. any tips ??02:27
knoppiesjrib, depending on whether I already have 12.04?02:27
jribknoppies: I don't know what you mean02:27
knoppiesjrib, I already have the 12.04 iso, so I wouldnt need to download it, assuming the updates are < 700MB I would be saving bandwidth by using that.02:28
knoppiesalainus, free space needs to be contiguous, although that may not be your problem.02:28
Taevcan some one please tell me how to restore unity, instead of kdm02:28
jribknoppies: then that way will probably consume less bandwidth probably...02:29
alainusknoppies: apparently i had to do swapoff ..02:29
knoppiesalainus, oh. Are you resizing the extended partition?02:29
bsnlWhere is the hard drive located on ubuntu? It tells me to extract a file to the hard drive but I don't know where it is specifically on here02:29
alainusknoppies: yeps02:29
jribbsnl: *what* tells you?02:29
knoppiesbsnl, when it says that it means you need to extract it to anywhere inside /home/USERNAME/02:30
bsnlAh ok02:31
bsnl*what*02:32
bsnlOh I thought that was a command that would tell me, but knoppies showed me02:32
knoppiesbsnl, glad I could help.02:32
bcbc2alainus: swap is mounted automatically by the live CD (which locks the extended partition). You can just unmount it: sudo swapoff -a02:33
bsnlAny place I can go to get a good solid learning education on linux/computers so I can appreciate/do more with linux?02:33
selena2013so Ubuntu is proposing a Rolling Release02:33
xangua!ot | selena201302:33
ubottuselena2013: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:33
knoppiesbsnl, your own home. The Internet can provide a lot of help (and a lot of confusion). This channel is a good place to start if you get stuck. One tip from me, DONT be afraid of the command line. Its not as scary as it looks.02:34
alainusbcbc2, knoppies ... now it-s leaving unallocated space after which i can-t get rid of. ..see  http://imgur.com/vZEZAr002:34
knoppiesalainus, dont worry about that, most partitioning tools do. Its only 1MB.02:35
bsnlOk! Thanks! One last thing, Apparently I don't have the permission to access extracting to the hard drive02:35
randimillerRokkross, rats_, thanks this looks like it will do fine... it's no camtasia but will do temporarily02:35
bsnlEr I mean, i don't have permission to access that particular location of home02:36
bsnlwhen attempting to copy an extracted file there02:36
knoppiesbsnl, /home/ belongs to root, you need to put it into /home/$USER02:36
bsnlOh! Ok, thanks!02:36
knoppiesalainus, Im not sure why they do that, I assume it has something to do with aligning to cylinders or something. You can try select align to MB.02:37
bsnlI can't figure out how to tell it to move to home/user02:39
bsnllol02:39
dr_williscp foo /home/username/02:39
knoppiesbsnl, what dr_willis said. Type that into a terminal, or use nautilus to ctrl-c ctrl-v it.02:40
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bsnl"Cannot stat foo, no such file or directory"02:41
dr_willisthink about that....    its an example....02:42
Guest83386I am new to linux and trying to install drivers... I downloaded the .tar.gz but I am unsure of what to do now02:42
dr_willisGuest83386:  drivers for what02:42
Guest83386My Canon Pixma MX860 Printer02:42
jobstar zxvf filename.tar.gz02:42
dr_willisits possible they are allready in the repositories02:43
dr_willissearch for 'canon' in the software center and look02:43
Guest83386I am just unsure of what to actually do with the archive file02:43
billkdGuest83396: Are you sure that Ubuntu doesn't include the drivers for your device in the repos?02:43
knoppiesbsnl, what is the name of the file. You need to do cp filename /home/username02:43
knoppiesbsnl, or if you want to move it (rather than copy it) then mv filename /home/username02:44
Guest83386I do not believe it does02:44
jobs= =02:45
Guest83386How do I install the drivers after I've the archive downloaded?02:46
bsnlBrain Workshop has a few dependencies on Linux.02:48
bsnl    First, get OpenGL working. Brain Workshop uses OpenGL as a backend for drawing its graphics. Hardware acceleration is strongly recommended, but if it's not available or easy to set up, the Mesa software renderer also works.02:48
bsnl    Python: Most distributions come with Python preinstalled. Open a terminal and type python to ensure you have Python 2.5 or higher. Python 2.4 will also suffice as long as python-ctypes is installed.02:48
bsnl    If you would like music support (recommended), download and install AVBin by following these steps:02:48
bsnl        Download one of the following:02:48
FloodBot1bsnl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:48
bsnl            AVbin 7 installer for 32-bit Linux02:48
Jordan_UGuest83386: Did you already try simply plugging the printer in and trying to print to it? What version of Ubuntu are you using?02:48
Guest83386I am on Xubuntu 12.10, and I am trying to set up via network access. I have it connected to multiple Windows computers02:49
bsnlBut yes basically i'm trying to install that02:49
dr_willis!find avbin02:49
ubottuFound: libavbin-dev, libavbin002:50
Jordan_UGuest83386: OK, have you tried adding the printer via system-config-printer yet? Does it show up in the list of network printers there?02:50
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Guest83386Where do I access system-config-printer?02:51
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Jordan_UGuest83386: It's somewhere in the menus, probably "System>Preferences>Printers" or similar, or just run "system-config-printer" from a terminal.02:52
Guest83386I believe that is what I am trying to use02:52
dr_willisor use the dash search.02:52
Jordan_Udr_willis: Xubuntu.02:52
dr_willishe was trying the cups web interface earlier02:53
pacaolok02:53
Jordan_UGuest83386: Does it show up in the list of network printers there?02:53
eN_Joymy ubuntu box is almost solely as a web server, that being said, port 80 is open, however my ufw.log shows from time to time, access to port 80 is blocked, how so?02:54
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Jordan_UeN_Joy: Please post the exact line (or use pastebin if it's more than one line).02:55
eN_JoyJordan_U: e.g., http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589402/02:56
bsnlTerminal commands don't seem to work02:57
bsnlhttp://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html is what i'm trying to install02:58
bsnlDidn't expect i'd run into this issue, google is usually always there for me but i'm getting nothing here and i'm too new to ubuntu and its commands to understand why this isn't working02:58
knoppiesbsnl, pastebin the terminal output when it fails.02:58
bsnlAlright02:59
bsnlmv brainworkshop /home/username03:00
bsnlmv: cannot create directory `/home/username': Permission denied03:00
bsnl my brainworkshop /home/usr03:01
bsnlmy: command not found03:01
bsnlWhoops lol03:01
knoppiesbsnl, mv brainworkshop /home/$USER03:02
knoppiesbsnl, what is the output to echo $USER03:02
dr_willisyou are using your actual username?03:02
MakiAto!chat03:02
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:02
dr_willismay be time to read a bash beginner guide or two03:02
bsnlmy brainworkshop /home/$USER03:03
bsnlmy: command not found03:03
bsnlNo, I went through the other names first before usr, usr was just last ditch03:03
MakiAtoyes bash the noobs03:03
bsnlalthough beginner guides would be helpful03:03
knoppiesbsnl, M V not M Y03:03
knoppiesmv is short for move.03:03
Guest83386Okay the printer shows up in the list03:04
Guest83386But the test page does not work03:04
bsnllol I have never had that problem before03:04
Guest83386The MAC address is correct03:04
bsnlSorry, I am extremely groggy and disfunctional right now, this stuff isn't normally hard for me :/ bad time of day to try this I guess03:04
[Saint]assuming you're logged in as the user in question, 'mv <foo> ~/' may avoid some cunfusion.03:05
MakiAtoyou still print stuff?03:05
knoppies[Saint], I dont want to confuse him any more.03:05
Guest83386No03:05
MakiAtolets casta a fatah on De Icaza03:06
dr_willisthere may be some error info in the /var/logs/cups* files Guest83386  as to why its failing.03:06
MakiAtolets cast a fatah on De Icaza03:06
MakiAtoi mean Miguel03:06
MakiAtoall this time we was infiltrating the comunity03:07
* [Saint] wonders why Chrome has the user selection on the left, and _ [] X on the right in 13.04 ow03:07
[Saint]*now03:07
dr_willisMakiAto:  keep it ontopic in here please03:07
bsnlmv brainworkshop /home/$USER03:08
bsnlmv: `brainworkshop' and `/home/bsnl/brainworkshop' are the same file03:08
Curs0rHi, I seem to be having trouble with ntp setting the time incorrectly by a day after an update to 11.04. Is that common? Anything I can do about it, or just get rid of ntp?03:08
CoreyCurs0r: Uh... when you say "incorrectly," what do you mean exactly?03:08
CoreyTen seconds off, wrong timezone, etc?03:08
dr_willisbsnl:  so what are you moving where?03:08
Curs0rCorey, Tue Mar  5 20:06:49 MST 2013 is what date returns03:08
bsnlI just need to move the file brainworkshop to the hard drive in order for it to run03:08
Curs0rIt's off by a whole day every time ntp syncs03:09
dr_willisbsnl:  looks like its allready in your user home directory03:09
[Saint]bsnl: it already is.03:09
CoreyCurs0r: Uh... ntp can't do that, by itself.03:09
MakiAtoi need to make a ntp server03:09
MakiAto...03:09
CoreyCurs0r: Not to mention thatthat's... right.  Tue Mar  5 19:09:33 PST 2013 here.03:09
[Saint]MakiAto: No, you don't, hundreds of people already did this for you.03:09
dr_willis!ntp03:10
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)03:10
bsnlSo I was right when I moved it there before coming here lol fml03:10
CoreyCurs0r: So is the problem "You don't know what day it is?" :-)03:10
MakiAtoand set it up for just one date/hour03:10
stiltzkinAnybody here want to take a shot at a question regarding fglrx on Ubuntu? Particularly if you have an ATI GPU03:10
skateis ubuntu tweek a recomended theme app?03:10
bsnlNow I just need to get it to run somehow03:10
bsnlGetting errors when I try the recommended way03:10
dr_willisskate:  theres several ubuntu tweaker tools out. Ubuntu-tweak seems to work ok.  been using unsettings lately03:11
Curs0rWhat the hell. then my windows box is off by a day and asterisk is screaming about dates in the past for some other reason. this day gets better and better03:11
CoreyCurs0r: Yeah.  ntp is spot on, your internal clock is broken. :-)03:12
Curs0rCorey, and yes apparently neither I nor windows knew what day it was03:12
CoreyCurs0r: Or every clock in the room is broken and I'm living in a madhouse, let's not discount that.03:12
BannleptonGreetingd folks.. Night..03:12
skatethank you ill check that out03:12
Curs0rCorey, that's actually unfortunate news. this means I have no clue what is wrong with asterisk now lol03:12
Guest83386How do I uninstall the drivers?03:13
BannleptonI have a hard to resolve issue in my Kubuntu.. No ATI driver can be installed.. I am losting my patience... heh.. Does any-good-fryend help me??03:13
chicognufolks, i have a machine with Ubuntu GNU/Linux  (virtual one, but let's forgot about this detail for now) ... Wlan0 is my conection to the internet, it is a physical device conected "only" to de virtual machine... And I have a a ETH0 conection, avirtual  ethernet adapter ... From the host i can ping the eth0 ... How do I share my conection between the guest os to host ?03:13
poopiehi03:14
bsnlOk I see the problem now. My reading comprehension went kaput when I got really tired and I skipped over a few important lines, go figure03:14
chicognuhi poopie03:14
dr_willis!ics03:16
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing03:16
IRCLemurHello - I'm running from Bodhi Linux & recently attempted to dual-boot Macpup - I decided I wanted to keep my bodhi-grub... How do I go about adding the menu entry to grub?03:17
bsnlOpen a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop.03:17
bsnlThis is the last part03:17
BannleptonIRCLemur: I want to know the same thing about the Kubuntu grub and do not the backtrack one..03:18
dr_willisIRCLemur:  add the right stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom   is one way03:18
bsnlBut I don't know what directories are so I can't figure out what the brainworkshop directory is :[03:19
MakiAtoanyone using backtrack?03:19
IRCLemurdr_willis, Thank you - I couldn't remember where the new version of grub had it's "menu.lst" type-file for custom editing03:19
dr_willisubunts's  update-grub command detects and auto adds a lot of distros automatically03:19
IRCLemurupdate-grub nor grub-mkconfig found the frugal install of macpup on sda303:20
bsnllol I can't believe for 2 hours i've just been trying to move file- Run program03:20
MakiAtoit adds iso linux images?03:20
dr_willisbsnl: its in your users home....   /home/yourusername/03:20
dr_willisMakiAto: you can add those by hand03:20
MakiAtono i cant03:20
IRCLemurdr_willis, I know to update-grub after I edit 40_custom... thank you.03:20
MakiAtoi sure i could make the system unbootable thou03:21
austin20hothey03:21
dr_willisMakiAto: clarify your question.03:21
MakiAtoim a bad typist03:21
LaogeodrittAnyone have any clue why an Ubuntu 12.04 server would fail boot after installing security updates? mountall fails according to kernel messages and I get thrown into a maintenance console—thing is, there are only two partitions (root and swap) and executing mountall in the shell caused it to boot properly. (I don't have access to it right now so I can only go from memory—it's been bugging03:22
Laogeodrittme at work today—but I thought I'd ask and see if there are any 'common issues' of this description)03:22
bkttDoes anybody knows how to hide my activity from the owner of a wifi conection?03:22
MakiAtoyou need to spoof03:23
MakiAtoanother connection03:23
bkttthak you very much i will search for this topic!03:24
MakiAtoask dr_willis for the hands on approach03:24
bsnlI still can't find it lol03:24
dr_willisbsnl:  cd /home/yourusername/whatever03:25
knoppiesbktt, I wouldnt look too much into that, if you want to hide your activity then use a tunnel of some sort. Either an SSH (port foward) tunnel or a VPN.03:25
bsnlWhat i'm trying to do is this "Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop."03:25
heraclitisanyone use teamviewer here?03:25
dr_willisbsnl:  seriously.. reading a bash tutorial is worth it.03:25
MakiAtoME03:25
MakiAtoi use TMviewer03:26
dr_williscd brainworkshop03:26
dr_willispython whatever03:26
bsnlwhats bash03:26
dr_willis!bash03:26
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:26
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bsnlOh its ubuntus command prompt03:26
MakiAto!hash03:26
MakiAto!ash03:26
knoppiesbsnl, yes. Also known as a terminal or cli.03:26
heraclitisMakiAto: do you know why teamviewer runs as a process on windows at all times? even if I don't have it started?03:26
dr_willisits not ubuntu specific03:26
Guest17284Alright, so I managed to get the printer working. Now, how can I change it to grayscale only? When I go Job options, print-color-mode, monochrome, it does not stick03:27
knoppiesbsnl, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal it will help you with most of your problems.03:27
bsnlThe terminology and rules that the programs follow are completely elusive to me. if I had a break down of the laws of how ubuntu functions this would be much easier03:27
MakiAtoyou have to ask the devs03:27
bsnlOk, i'll learn that tonight03:27
MakiAtoheraclitis: try ##windows03:28
dr_willisbsnl: laws?  its all normal linux/unix at the core03:28
heraclitisMakiAto: already have. I run it on both linux and windows.03:29
bsnlWhat I mean is, I don't know the logic behind how linux/unix functions atm03:29
dr_willisbsnl: you dont know the basics.. start with a bash tutorial or 3  then work up03:29
bsnlLinux is just a name to me right now and nothing else03:29
MakiAtobsnl make yopur owne distro using LFS then you can be aloud to ask something like that in here03:29
dr_willisbsnl:  remember  case IS imporntant in linux03:29
bsnli'm not sure what you're saying MakiAto03:29
bsnlWhat did I ask that was bad03:30
MarocChecking ...03:30
dr_willisbsnl:  hes just ranting.. ;-)03:30
MakiAtohttp://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/03:30
beanin reality, though, don't ask "what's bash" that's googleable03:30
MakiAto!google bash03:31
ubottuI have no google command, use http://www.google.com/03:31
bsnlOk, i'll get the google fu leveled up03:31
knoppiesbsnl, you can ignore MakiAto. He just has no patience.03:31
bsnlI'm fine I just don't know what he was upset about, was it the easy google answer questions i'm asking that he doesn't like or something else?03:32
jonesmjIs there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing?03:32
Nautilusis there a way for me to look at an HD's SMARTT data booted to a 12.04 live cd?03:32
bsnlJust couldn't see what he was mad at lol03:33
* MakiAto thinks bsnl is Miguel in disguise03:33
connorHey so I installed Ubuntu and it is about perfect. The problem I have with it is the sound setup is very confusing. Is there anyway or any other programs to simplify it?03:33
connorThe alsa mixer is what I'm referring to really.03:34
MakiAtoconnor:  what do you mean exaclly?03:34
knoppiesNautilus, yes, try installing gnome-disk-utility. Then to call it from the camand line its called palimpsest03:34
bsnlOh one real quck question and I think i'm done03:35
knoppiesNautilus, I cant believe I mistyped command.03:35
knoppiesbsnl, dont ask to ask a question, just hit us with your question.03:35
gnuskoolknoppies: shock, horrror!03:35
bsnlHow much should I learn before i'm capable of installing gentoo? I've heard its a challenge that helps you learn linux better and i'd like to work up to that03:35
Nautilusknoppies: I can do that without it touching the HD?03:35
knoppiesNautilus, without it mounting the HD. Yes.03:35
nulihello03:36
knoppiesNautilus, it will read from the HDD Smart data when you open palimpsest.03:36
Nautilusapt get gnome-disk-utility ?03:36
dr_willisbsnl:  if you have to ask what bash is.. you are a long way from using gentoo.03:36
knoppiesNautilus, dont forget the install, but yes.03:36
MakiAtoNautilus you should enable the only menu option that enables RAID03:36
nuliee03:36
bsnlThats ok, i'd just like to know what I have ahead of me before I can install gentoo03:36
dr_willisbsnl:  read its install docs if you want. anf the lfs docs.. to learn some new terms03:36
nulihow to remove file on ubuntu03:36
gnuskoolbsnl, install it, learn it as you go03:37
nulihow to remove file on ubuntu ??03:37
dr_willisbsnl:  why do you even think you need gentoo03:37
knoppiesbsnl, I would stay away from gentoo for a while. I know someone who started with gentoo and so he uses nothing else, but without a good mentor it will be like swimming in quicksand.03:37
dr_willisnuli:    rm filename03:37
holsteinnuli: right click.. delete.. highlight and hit delete... rm03:37
gnuskoolbsnl, waiting till that perfect day you know enough is the slow way03:37
dr_willis!bash > nuli03:37
ubottunuli, please see my private message03:37
knoppiesnuli, rm filename #(or do you mean uninstall a program)03:37
nuliok thank,,, im begginer03:37
* dr_willis would hope rightclick-delete would be discoverable...03:38
nuliwhen I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts  127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com03:38
bsnlI tried installing it once before, I understood around 1/4 of the installation process but after 25% in I got a little lost03:38
nuliand when i access thah domain03:38
knoppiesNautilus, did that solve your issue? If you reboot you will need to re-download the gnome-disk-utility .deb package, you can copy it to your USB (or some other location) from /var/cache/apt/archives or something.03:39
nulithe content say error 404003:39
rperez_crDo you recommend any bandwidth monitor tool, which sends emails alerts. I have already used ntop, bandwidth (comes with pfsense), mrtg. But any of them send alerts? (sorry with my english, if there is a mistake.)03:39
nulihow to change that message ???03:39
dr_willisnuli:  run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it03:39
gnuskoolbsnl, always best to have a separate laptop or pc connected to the internet to lookup error messages, status messages or to ask in chat03:39
nuliwhen I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts  127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com and when i access that domain the content say error 404 ... and how to change that message????03:40
dr_willisnuli:  run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it   ie: 127.0.0.103:40
MakiAtomy mobo has jack detection will it work in ubuntu because it doesnt work in windows 703:40
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knoppiesrperez_cr, I don't know of anything but that is something I am interested in myself.03:41
Nautilusknoppies: yep it sure did ... 1289 reallocated sectors03:41
knoppiesMakiAto, what is stopping you from just trying it out with a LiveCD?03:41
knoppiesNautilus, gulp.03:41
Nautilusknoppies: it was already there, i didnt have to install it03:41
Nautilusknoppies: yup03:41
stiltzkinATI GPU owners, anyone? Anyone with a working OpenCL setup on Ubuntu?03:42
MakiAtobecause if i do it and it doesent work i was just waisting my time!?03:42
dr_willisMakiAto:   we cant tell you yes or no.. you need to try it03:42
bsnlI'm going to post the directions and then the command I typed and the terminals response03:43
knoppiesMakiAto, and asking here isnt? We dont know what motherboard you have, or what specific ubuntu you are going to use, and even if we did, what makes you think that we have tested that combination ourselves.03:43
MakiAtoso they have this stuff working at all in some hardwear?03:43
bsnlOpen a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop03:43
knoppiesMakiAto, yes. they do.03:43
knoppiesMakiAto, it works on my laptop.03:43
dr_willisMakiAto:  thats a yes03:43
bsnl/home/bsnl python brainworkshop.pyw03:44
bsnlbash: /home/bsnl: Is a directory03:44
knoppiesbsnl, dont type in /home/bsnl, just type in python brainworkshop.pyw03:44
dr_willisbsmith093:  cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop03:44
dr_willisoops03:44
dr_willisbsnl:  cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop03:44
dr_willisthat IS  'entering the brainworksohop' directory03:45
bsnlFor educational purposes, why didn't my command work?03:45
dr_willisbecause you are not giving a correct command03:45
bsnldohoho03:45
dr_williscd to the dir03:45
dr_willisrun the command03:46
jonesmjIs there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing?03:46
knoppiesjonesmj, look for a setting in mouse or keyboard. I'll see if I can find one.03:47
bsnlbsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~$ cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop03:48
bsnlbsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/brainworkshop$03:48
dr_willisbsnl:  notice your prompt has changed?03:48
bsnlI wish I had a good computer.jpg.vir.exe.wallpaperbonus03:48
jonesmjknoppies, I couldn't find one at all03:48
bsnlYes03:48
knoppiesjonesmj, I dont seem to have one on xubuntu, but I think one does exist. Something like hide cursor while typing, could also look for disable touchpad while typing.03:48
Nautilusknoppies++03:49
Nautilusseeya03:49
somsipjonesmj: maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/157134/how-to-hide-the-mouse-cursor03:50
bsnlI do indeed notice that my prompt has changed03:50
bsnlInto a dinosaur03:50
bsnlIt's eating me, I don't think i'll be able to make it through guys, oh it's teeth are tearing apart my innards, these are my last few days. Thank you for your help, if I survive i'll read the command line terminal, oh god i'm breaking u03:51
dr_willisbsnl:  you now run the command03:51
dr_willisits not rocket surgery03:52
dr_willisthis is like stuff covered in the first 10 min of a bash tutorial03:52
selena2013sometimes it is lol03:52
gnuskooloh, the joys of bash03:53
MakiAtowho need a mouse anyways03:53
dr_willis a 10 min reading = 2 hrs of irc tutoring03:53
selena2013i rarely use the terminal03:53
selena2013all graphical gui03:53
gnuskoolselena2013: really, try a week with no gui03:54
selena2013hell no03:54
selena2013lol03:54
dr_willisits easier to give bash commands on irc support03:54
MakiAtothe black hole of bash03:54
dr_willisthe wasted time of searching a gui for a 2 word bash command....03:55
MakiAtothats the beuty of linux it can be modern and arcane at the same time03:55
selena2013thats right03:55
dr_williswindows has the exact same issues in many cases03:55
MakiAtoits kinda of like the beuty and the beast03:55
selena2013lol03:56
MakiAto!questions03:58
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:58
knoppiesselena2013, do yourself a favour. Dont be afraid of the terminal. Use it a little here, and a little there. In a few months you will do things that are quicker to do on a terminal in the terminal, and the things that are quicker todo in a GUI in the GUI. Before you know it you will be writing scripts which do things like only move certain files or bulk rename files. The terminal is still VERY powerful, even in todays G03:58
knoppiesUI oriented computing.03:58
patr|ck<303:59
panorainSup03:59
selena2013knoppies i know is powerful  but i gui is easier03:59
MakiAtoselena2013: try sudo ./ it shows pretty cat pics03:59
panorainI am using slitaz 4 on a different pc03:59
selena2013lol03:59
knoppiesselena2013, not true. There are many things that are easier to do in a terminal than in a GUI. and its not that much harder to learn, just harder to remember. (thats what man pages are for)04:00
MakiAtoits a linux easter egg04:00
dr_willisat times the gui is harder04:00
panoraindr04:00
usr13knoppies: (I use a GUI terminal :)04:00
knoppiesusr13, Match made in heaven.04:00
usr13Who remembers?  (I use notes.)04:01
selena2013but gui is beautiful04:01
knoppiesselena2013, so is green on black terminal (imo). Fine, stick to your ways.04:01
dr_willisgui can be an eyesore04:01
panoraindr_willis does the ext3 format on usb support swapping files easily as msdos?04:01
usr13so's CLI04:01
dr_willispanorain:  swapping files means?04:01
MakiAtoyellow on black04:01
panoraindr_willis I seem to have problems with transferring/copying files form linux based computers with the usb:thumb drive ext304:02
knoppiesselena2013, (this isnt exactly fair, as its not a terminal but a bootsplash) Tell me this is NOT beautiful: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/KNOPPIX_booting.png/300px-KNOPPIX_booting.png04:02
rats_GUIs are for the desktop terminal is for under the hood - depends on your workflow04:03
knoppiesrats_, thats not even true. I use the terminal for a lot of desktop tasks.04:03
usr13dr_willis: I think panorain has troubles with a file manager.04:03
rats_both are good04:03
selena2013looks nice04:03
dr_willispanorain: ownership and permissions ARE remembered on a removeable usb thats ext# formated04:03
selena2013with the tux04:03
MakiAtoi wished my irc client look half as good04:03
knoppiesMakiAto, tried weechat?04:04
panorainusr13 when I format the usb /sda etc  file system ext3 makes it hard to transfer files04:04
usr13panorain: Ahhh yes, it's file ownerships you have problems with.  Right?04:04
dr_willispanorain: linux dosent care that they are  removeable.04:04
MakiAtoim going to oinstall mirc in wine04:05
dr_willisit treats them the same.. so set up the users the same way. or chown/chmod the files as needed04:05
usr13panorain: If it's not file ownership, I don't know what the problem is.  Files are files....04:05
panorainusr13 possible why to I see always etc3 has a new trash bin included in a freshly created thumb drive?04:05
gnuskoolpanorain: you could have kept the format of the usb as NTFS if yu wanted to, it would have worked04:05
panorainusr13 ext3 sorry04:05
dr_willis!trash04:05
ubottuYour GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.04:05
panoraingnuskool meaning with using gparted?04:06
usr13panorain: That is the function of the file manager, (which gives you an un-delete option).04:06
usr13... same as MS Windows...04:07
panorainusr13 please help me run through a setup on a 2.0 gig thumbdrive easily partitioned and able to swap file with my slitaz4 pc04:07
gnuskoolpanorain: yes, the usb can be of FAT32/NTFS which is windoes format and that would have been ok04:07
usr13panorain: I usually use the default fat32 so that the device can be easily shared with other OSs.04:08
gnuskoolpanorain, then format it to fat3204:08
panoraingnuskool I have inserted the thumbdrive what is my next step with the bash terminal?04:08
usr13panorain: They come that way, I leave it that way.04:09
gnuskoolpanorain, have you already changed it to ext3 format?04:09
panoraingnuskool please hold on 15 seconds04:09
usr13panorain: You want to re-format it?04:09
skatewhats a good command in terminal to display cpu temp readout?04:10
dr_willisgparted works well for that panorain04:10
panorainusr13 I would like to reformat the 2.0 gig thumbdrive04:10
panoraingnuskool I opened gparted now04:10
usr13skate: I think that info comes from BIOS04:11
aiFrantzskate: need to install few things few, e.g. lm_sensors04:11
panoraingnuskool the device is picked up and labeled /dev/sdf04:11
dr_willisdelete ecisting partition. make new one. format it to vfat or whatever its called04:11
usr13panorain: mkdosfs /dev/sd?#04:11
skateok thnx04:11
panorainusr13 from terminal sudo prefix?   mkdosfs /dev/sd?#04:12
usr13panorain: sudo fdisk -l04:12
usr13panorain: (You first have do decide which device you want to format.)04:13
aiFrantzskate: this tutorial might be handy for you.. complete guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-get-sensors-information/04:13
panorainusr13 I would like only a linux based format to share between linux computers04:13
usr13panorain: (Be sure to select the correct device.)04:13
panorainusr13 my drive is /dev/sdf04:14
panorainusr13 I have opend sudo fdsik -l04:14
usr13panorain: Why would the filesystem matter?04:14
panorainusr13 It should not matter04:14
skategreat! thank you aiFrantz04:14
aiFrantzpanorain: usr13: why don't you use palimpsest/gnome-disk-utility to format the drive? kinda curious here O.o?04:14
usr13panorain: type mk  and hit the tab key a couple times.04:14
usr13panorain: (take  your pick)04:15
usr13panorain: mkfs.ext3  ?04:15
dr_willisvfat works well for sneaker-net transfers04:15
panorainusr13 yes04:15
usr13panorain: I agree with dr_willis. I recomment vfat04:16
panorainaiFrranz I do not know gnoe disk utility04:16
dr_willisthats his whole issue04:16
usr13panorain: But its up to you.04:16
gnuskoolpanorain: mkfs.vfat -In ‘enter-some-name-here-ok’ /dev/sdf04:16
panorainusr13 please help you are appreciated04:16
dr_willismkfs.vfat /dev/sdf104:16
panoraingnuskool ok04:16
usr13panorain: Why would you want to limit it's use only to systems that will read ext3 ?04:16
gnuskoolusr13: he wants to share with a windows os04:17
aiFrantzpanorain: install = sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility ... to invoke, put this command into terminal : palimpsest ... quite handy04:17
panorainusr13 I do not necessarily want to limit it this way04:17
usr13panorain: Then use vfat04:17
aiFrantzgnome-disk-utility is a GUI tool.. much easier to someone who is no expert in this terminal thingy. but I do encourage to use terminal instead... much more fun I guess ^.^04:18
panorainaiFranz I have opened the utility now04:18
usr13panorain: mkfs.vfat = mkdosfs -f3204:19
aiFrantzthe rest is much more self-explanatory...04:19
panorainthank you04:19
panorainaiFranz must I unmount before partitioning?04:20
usr13panorain: Yes04:20
aiFrantzpanorain: yes you must04:20
panorainaiFranz I have unmounted the usb drive now04:20
aiFrantzok.. proceed to whatever next step you wanna proceed04:21
panorainusr13 the label of the drive is fat3204:21
usr13panorain: Doesn't matter.04:21
panorainaiFranz what should I do now to clear the thumb drive04:21
aiFrantzformatting volume and formatting drive aren't the same thing on gnome-disk-utility. to clean the drive, select format drive04:22
usr13panorain: Just format it.  (All data will be cleared, gone)04:22
panorainaiFranz masterbootrecord?04:22
gnuskooleeekk04:22
aiFrantzi'm on mac just now.. tell me the choices... i forgot 'em all04:22
panorainusr13 scheme askes  master boot record04:22
aiFrantz*oh maii godd.. no racism here.. I love mac.. hehe*04:23
usr13panorain: You don't want to re-partition it do you?  You just want to format it.  Right?04:23
panorainusr13 yes 1 big partition 2.0 gigs04:23
aiFrantzgtg... got something to do04:23
usr13panorain: How many does it have now?04:23
MakiAtoapple is racist?04:24
panorainusr13 none anymore I just formatted mbr04:24
usr13panorain: Really?04:24
panorainusr13 now only04:24
MakiAtoapple is pro gay people04:24
MakiAtoence the rainbow04:24
panorainaiFranz it show unallocated space04:24
MakiAtoor is it the other way around?04:24
usr13MakiAto: And what does that have to do with Ubuntu?04:25
panorainheh04:25
gnuskoolpanorain, just format the usb drive, ensure its the usb youre formatting, that is enough04:25
MakiAtoeveryone in irc is a male04:25
MakiAtothats a given04:25
gnuskoolpanorain: no need to do anything further, all data will be removed from the drive and you can use it04:26
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panoraingnuskool ok04:26
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MakiAtousr13: are you old engough for itc?04:26
panoraingnuskool drive is not recognized04:26
panoraingnuskool no format to the drive?04:26
milanneat04:27
MakiAtomost of people chating in irc are from some goverment organization04:27
MakiAtothats another given04:28
panorainaiFranz should I create a partition now?04:28
usr13panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format.04:28
MakiAtoi bet the only women in irc must be here because its in theyr job discriptions04:28
panorainusr13 what type of partition is best between all?04:28
usr13panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1  #would have formatted it.04:29
usr13panorain: Primary04:29
usr13panorain: If you only use one, no choice, primary04:30
panorainusr13 ok thank you04:30
gnuskoolpanorain, how is it going?04:31
MakiAtousr13: we dont use /dev/sdf you should recall the drive UUID04:31
usr13gnuskool: He's learning how to create partitions.04:31
MakiAtoprobablly Miguel seted that up for us04:32
usr13MakiAto: What?04:32
panoraingnuskool the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf yields Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override)04:32
panorainpaul@paul-desktop:~$04:32
usr13panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format.04:34
panorainusr13 please help04:34
MakiAtoDe Icaza married a brazilian04:34
usr13panorain: Have you created a partition?04:34
usr13panorain: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf04:35
panorainusr13 yes I created a partition using the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf04:35
usr13panorain: Tell us what it says?04:35
usr13panorain: You format partitions, (not drives).04:35
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panorainusr13 > Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override)04:36
panorainpaul@paul-desktop:~$04:36
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usr13panorain: mkfs  formats, (it does not create partitions).  Use fdisk to create partition.  (or cfdisk)04:36
usr13panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1  #would have formatted it.04:36
MakiAtowhat a coerent little men04:36
MakiAtohe allready killed linux04:37
gnuskoolpanorain, open gparted04:37
panorainusr13  , mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1    or   sdf?04:37
usr13panorain: see my pm04:37
panoraingnuskool ok04:37
gnuskoolpanorain, select the usb, what does it say under 'filesystem'?04:38
MakiAtoIn March 2010, he was named as the fifth in the "Most Powerful Voices in Open Source04:38
panorainusr13 yes thanks04:39
usr13panorain: FYI:  "sdf" is a drive   "sdf1"  is a partition.04:39
sprocI've set my prompt as follows: export PS1="\h:\w\$ "; However, after doing "sudo bash" successfully, I still see $ instead of #; why?04:40
gnuskoolpanorain, ok/04:40
dr_willissproc  dont use    sudo bash04:40
dr_willis!sudo04:40
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo04:40
sprocI don't make a habit of it; however I still would like to understand why this is so.04:42
dr_willisuse   sudo -i04:42
dr_willisyour bash is runni g roots bash init files04:42
dr_willisand messing with the enviroment settings04:43
sprocIf I have that same line in root's .bashrc, it also shows $ rather than #.04:45
sproc(when logged in as root via sudo -i)04:45
Firestorm65Are there any packages specialized for protecting laptop batteries from extra wear?04:45
gnuskoolpanorain, did you survive?04:46
sprocNevermind, I needed to escape the backslash; \$ -> \\$04:48
RustyShacklefordI am on Xubuntu 12.10. It never prompted me to install proprietary video drivers04:48
RustyShacklefordHow can I do this manually?04:48
Curs0rI've just made another possibly grim mistake. Onerix is 12.10 isn't it?04:48
holstein!12.1004:49
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) is the current stable release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.10 - Support in #ubuntu04:49
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holstein!ati | RustyShackleford04:49
ubottuRustyShackleford: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto04:49
Curs0rOk, so I still have the chance to stay at 12.04 once I get there?04:49
Curs0rI started out with 10.04 server this evening. My dahdi card stopped working after upgrading releases. I'm hoping it starts working again by the time I get it up to the 12s...04:52
RustyShacklefordpreviously, Additional Drivers would appear04:53
RustyShacklefordand thats how I installed it04:54
dr_willisin 12.10+ the addational drivers tool is in a tab on the software-sources tool04:54
holsteinRustyShackleford: try the link i gave to do it manually04:55
RustyShackleforddr_willis, awesome, thanks04:56
gnuskoolCurs0r: any specific errormessages?04:57
dr_willisthey really should have made an alias/script for jockey-gtk to pull up that tool and focus that tab04:57
Curs0rgnuskool, no sir, dahdi commands not showing up in asterisk, lspci shows it happy as can be04:57
RalliasHow would I go about changing my lxbr0 ip network?04:57
gnuskoolCurs0r: so what did you upgrade, kernel?04:58
Mick_JamesI have a question relating to USB installation of Ubuntu via USB on a machine that has no USB boot option in the Bios04:58
Curs0rgnuskool, I did a do-release-upgrade and am now doing another that should apparently put me at 11.1004:59
panorainusr13 IS AWESOME!05:00
dr_willisinstalling a full install to usb? you would need to put grub where it can boot from05:00
holsteinMick_James: plop http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html05:00
* Curs0r likey LTS so shooting for 12.0405:00
gnuskoolCurs0r: I think the initial problem is that a newer kernel does not recompile dahdi drivers, so a recompile would have fixed it05:00
Mick_JamesThanks Holstien, Im assuming there's something out there similar to the CD helper05:01
gnuskoolCurs0r: Ive come across this before05:01
Curs0rgnuskool, I will do that when I have finished 'modernizing' thanks :)05:01
Mick_JamesInstalling from USB dr_willis05:01
Curs0rErr, rather I will get confused probably and ask how to do that05:01
gnuskoolCurs0r: solution here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161045705:01
holsteinMick_James: i dont know what "the cd helper" is, but if you want to boot usb on legacy hardware, plop will do it05:01
Curs0rgnuskool, that solution is equally valid in 12.04?05:02
gnuskoolcursor,  I can only assume, as everytime I did a kernel upgrade, I had to do that05:03
Curs0rOk. I will call that plan A :)05:03
Curs0rAfter I have covered my own backside and gotten the phone system working I have to tackle samba. She cranky :)05:03
gnuskoolCurs0r: have fun05:05
gnuskoolCurs0r: the single comand you need is /var/lib/dpkg/info/dahdi-dkms.postinst configure05:06
Curs0rgnuskool, thankfully that one should be simple. "it's allowing shared folders to be accessed but not allowing the user to access the computer's address for a list of shares" is the shakily written note in front of me05:07
Mick_JamesThanks holstein, worked a treat05:07
XSevenXokay05:08
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XSevenXit seems as though every time I try to do anything "new" on this OS I'm confronted by about 50 different problems, all requiring extensive amounts of reading, and extremely boring work05:09
XSevenXI've already abandoned any hope of ever doing half the things I wanted to do with this pc that I built myself until I can afford a proper OS05:09
XSevenXbut all I wanted to do this time was play Dwarf Fortress05:09
XSevenXso I go to the bay12 site and proceed to download the files for linux, and then I look at the installation guide.05:10
holsteinXSevenX: i find sometimes its easier for folks who have no experience with any other OS... dwarf fortress can make a native linux version05:10
XSevenXlo and behold there is this entire massive wall of text that I don't even feel like reading05:10
gnuskoolCurs0r: cant say without seeing your shares or samba.conf05:10
XSevenXholstein just look at this, I mean, really.05:10
panorainyou guys are awesome05:11
gnuskoolCurs0r: permissions, I mean05:11
XSevenXholstein: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Installation05:11
Ben64XSevenX: is there a support question anywhere in your wall of text?05:11
XSevenXall I see when I look at this is "problem, another problem, problem, more problems"05:11
penthAnyone else have trouble with menu and screen-lock compositing? All my menus and modals are showing up behind all the other windows05:11
Ben64this channel isn't really for ranting05:11
gnuskoolpanorain: finally fixed? i thought you had formatted the wrong drive lol05:11
XSevenXyou know I thought I learned how to install, and "run" programs on this OS05:11
panoraingnuskool thank you my issue has been solved05:12
XSevenXand then I continue to find shit like this that just baffles me, because I don't even understand what it is wanting me to do05:12
XSevenXam I supposed to reprogram my linux?05:12
Ben64XSevenX: dude, chill05:12
panoraingnuskool thank you for ll your help05:12
Ben64go somewhere else if you want to just rant05:12
holsteinXSevenX: please watch the language.. this is the official support channel05:12
panoraingnuskool all05:12
Ben64if you have a question, ask one05:12
Curs0rgnuskool, if you're still around in a bit I can pastebin for you. Still got a long haul doing the release upgrade shuffle.05:12
XSevenXwatch what language?05:12
gnuskoolpanorain: no prob, didnt do much05:12
holsteinXSevenX: they can release the program for ubuntu.. even in the software center. and might eventually05:12
holsteinXSevenX: where are you having issues?05:13
panoraingnuskool people like you are wonderful to have in the computer world05:13
gnuskoolCurs0r: ok, if im about, no problem05:13
panorainusr13 is awesome i have to add05:13
XSevenX..I seriously cannot put my hand into my face any harder right now05:13
XSevenXholstein my problem is: WHY DOES THIS OS HAVE TO BE SO DRAMATICALLY NON-USER FRIENDLY?05:14
gnuskoolpanorain: :D05:14
Ben64XSevenX: if you don't have an actual support question, could  you just not say anything?05:14
Curs0rXSevenX, try gentoo and say that again05:14
holsteinXSevenX: the OS didnt create that game.. wwhere are you having issues?05:14
somsipXSevenX: simple - stop shouting, stop swearing, stop ranting. state your specific question05:14
suhaibXSevenX: That is why I don't agree with those who want to let non-geek people to use Ubuntu05:14
panorainXsevenX I could add slitaz 4 to the list05:15
holsteinXSevenX: the readme is actually not that bad.. where are you having issues?05:15
XSevenXI read the readme and it makes no sense to me05:15
XSevenXall I want to do is run the program as I have done on Windows05:15
XSevenXit gives me no command to input into my terminal05:16
XSevenXI go to the help on how to install it05:16
holsteinXSevenX: you can start with what *exactly* is making no sense, or ask the developers of the game..05:16
XSevenXand it says I need to get all these libraries05:16
XSevenXholstein this has nothing to do with the game ffs05:16
holsteinXSevenX: it says you need to get specific libraries, that are listed.. is that where you would like to start?05:16
dr_willissounds like the devs need to make a proper .deb05:16
XSevenXexactly, I'm gonna go to these webpages05:16
gleakenI have a question regarding ehci_hcd binding.  I was messing around with unbinding it from my adapter because I thought I had a problem with the driver for a USB HDD.  Now, even though I re-bound it, it does not rebind upon reboot.  I have to bind it manually.  On my laptop, I didn't fiddle around with it, so it binds correctly each reboot.  What am I missing?05:16
holsteinXSevenX: actually, this has *everything* to do with the game.. nothing to do with the OS05:16
XSevenXand it's gonna say I need __________ in order to get _____________ in order to run ___________ in order to find ___________05:17
dr_willisi imagine all the libs are in the repos05:17
XSevenXthis is the case with _everything_ on this OS05:17
* dr_willis has never had to track down dll's on windows... done here..05:17
Curs0rThat's how it is with all OSes. Linux just has a very wide array05:17
XSevenXno matter WHAT I want to do on this OS I need to have _____ in order find _____ in order to search for _____ in order to learn about _____ in order to download _____ in order to have file #1 of #299 in order to run program X05:17
holsteinXSevenX: not with things that are made to run in ubntu.. from the repos or softare center.. but what would you like to do? talk about the dependanties?05:18
holsteinXSevenX: we can constructively review the readme.. otherwise, you need to stop posting so the volunteers here can help others05:18
KI4ROIsn't Samba made to run in Ubuntu?  It is not a fun install05:18
dr_willisi have no real issues with samba05:19
dr_willisi fight more with windows to windows networking05:19
gnuskoolXSevenX: when you have all the necessary files and are ready to get it done, give me a shout05:21
holsteinXSevenX: i would just right click and make the "df" file executable and try running it.. i have it running here, and i didnt do anything special05:22
Ben64yeah i have it running too05:23
Ben64easy peasy lemon squeezy05:23
gleakenIs anyone familiar with the usb error, cannot bind on USB port.  I tried unbinding and rebinding the ehci_hcd driver and now it doesn't bind upon reboot.  Is there anyone who is familiar with that issue?05:23
holsteinXSevenX: its click and run..05:24
Ben64apparently it's easier to complain then to try05:24
Xchatnovahola05:25
Xchatnovahi05:25
XSevenXholstein I did attempt to run the "df" file and it did nothing but stall/sit here05:25
penthMeanwhile, I solved the problem I've been asking about all evening with compiz --replace, per  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/73516205:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 735162 in compiz (Ubuntu) "menu application appears behind window application" [Medium,Confirmed]05:25
XSevenXthus I tried terminal commands05:25
XSevenXand then I went to the website for further help05:25
holsteinXSevenX: its running for me.. try right click and run in terminal and see what the errors are05:25
XSevenXterminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens05:26
holsteinXSevenX: make it executable.. and run it in the terminal...05:26
XSevenXit says "df" is an executable file05:27
Firestorm65any wine wizards here?  #winehq is nonresponsive05:27
XSevenX"Run in terminal", "Display", "Cancel", "Run"05:27
XSevenXand so I "Run in terminal"05:27
XSevenXterminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens05:27
Ben64then open a terminal, navigate to where df is, and run it from terminal05:27
holsteinXSevenX: maybe start over and re-download it.. i grabbed http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_34_11_linux.tar.bz205:27
Nach0zFirestorm65: ask away hombre, someone might know the answer05:27
XSevenXI have the same package holstein05:28
Firestorm65http://pastebin.com/y44Zax98 just want to fix this05:28
Firestorm65not sure if it's as simple as finding the ddl or more involved05:28
XSevenXI have df_linux in my "Home" folder05:28
jefimenkothis is probably a longshot, but does anyone here know how to run the equivalent of debuild using pbuilder-dist?05:28
holsteinXSevenX: i extracted the download, and right clicked on "df" and set it to executable.. then i clicked it and ran it in terminal..05:28
XSevenXwhat do you mean you "set it" to executable?05:29
holsteinXSevenX: navigate inside "df_linux" do "df".. right click on it, and go to permissions and set it to executable05:29
XSevenXokay, I went to Properties, and I allowed it to execute as a program05:30
penthjefimenko,  you'd probably get better advice in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-packaging05:30
XSevenXand I just attempted to open in terminal, and then also run it05:30
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XSevenXboth options yielded no results05:30
|Anthony|just to be sure before i do this on an existing user account... doing usermod -a -G share someuser will add that user to the share group WITHOUT changing any of their current group assignments?05:30
|Anthony|i've had bad experience with usermod in the past05:30
|Anthony|:/05:30
holsteinXSevenX: it being what? /path/to/df_linux/df ?05:31
XSevenXI don't know how to find my home folder from the terminal05:31
holsteinXSevenX: try re-downloading.. it literally ran first try for me.. easy.. and im not trying to be combative05:31
penth   If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed,05:31
penth           the user will be removed from the group. This behaviour can be05:31
penth           changed via the -a option, which appends the user to the current05:31
penth           supplementary group list05:31
holsteinXSevenX: is it in Downloads?05:31
FloodBot1penth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:31
dr_willisjust 'cd' takes you to your home05:31
penthoops. But yes, -a -G should do the trick Anthony (so siath the man page)05:32
Firestorm65I have the correct .dll in my windows partition05:32
penthPersonally, I use vigr :)05:32
Firestorm65how do I use that to run a program in wine?05:32
holsteinXSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/05:32
XSevenXI just redownloaded it and saved the tar.biz in downloads05:32
holstein!wine05:33
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu05:33
dr_willisFirestorm65:  run what exactly? you dont run a .dll05:33
Firestorm65run the program, it is missing a .dll05:33
Firestorm65run the .exe, excuse me05:33
penthFirestorm65, best asked in #winehq.05:34
dr_williswine has its own emulated windows driv  in .wine/ Firestorm6505:34
Firestorm65no one's home there05:34
XSevenXholstein I do not know how to navigate to anything in this terminal because the way this OS sorts files is unfamiliar to me05:34
penthok, sorry.05:34
alainusi'm getting "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found." in GRUB, and then a grub rescue> prompt. what shall i do ??05:34
dr_williscopy the dll to the right wine win32 dir. in .wine or perhaps put it in the samw dir as the .exe05:34
holsteinXSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/05:34
holsteinXSevenX: let me delete mine, and i'll copy paste what works for me05:35
XSevenXok I've found it in the terminal holstein05:36
XSevenXwhat's really stupid05:36
XSevenXis that I've figured out how to view my system processes05:36
XSevenXand kill processes05:36
XSevenXwithout any informmation05:36
XSevenXbut getting anything to function or run on this OS requires 10 hours of labor and 20 hours of hard study05:37
XSevenXwhy would they design something this difficult to use05:37
suhaibanyone has tried 13.1 here ?05:37
suhaibAMD 13.1 catalyst driver ?05:37
dr_willissuhaib:  #ubuntu+1 for 13.0405:38
dr_willislinux grew.. not really designed..05:38
suhaibdr_willis: do you think I should install 13.04 now ? or wait for the beta05:38
holsteinXSevenX: i'll pastebin you *exactly* what worked for me, but keep your posting in here support related please05:38
Firestorm65I put the .dll in the system32 folder and the bin folder05:39
Firestorm65neither changed anything05:39
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dr_willissuhaib:  im not even sure if they are doing the beta stuff any more. or how they call it05:39
suhaibdr_willis: accroding to the wiki, it says they are releasing the beta on 7th of march :-s05:40
dr_willisFirestorm65:  the #windows guys may now the proper way to add it..05:40
Guest26914guys05:40
Ben64Firestorm65: i think theres a winetricks for it05:40
dr_willissuhaib:  ive not tried 13.04 yet. no time to install it.05:40
suhaibGuest26914: yes Guest2691405:40
Firestorm65haven't messed with winetricks05:40
Firestorm65will check that out05:40
dr_willisFirestorm65:  what dll is it?05:40
suhaibdr_willis: Oh, I see05:40
Firestorm65X3DAudio1_2.dll05:41
holsteinXSevenX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589612/ is yielding http://imagebin.org/24915405:41
dr_willisFirestorm65: whats it supposed to be for?05:41
Firestorm65The program is SupremeCommander.exe, an RTS game05:42
linsirzhuhello05:42
Firestorm65no idea what the .dll is for besides the obvious of the name05:42
XSevenXholstein05:42
XSevenXhow am I supposed to know these commands that you are using05:42
dr_willisif its part of directx stuff winetricks may be able to fix it up05:42
Firestorm65it probably is05:42
holsteinXSevenX: i gave them to you.. in the pastebin.. you can do it in the GUI as well.. i did, by reading the readme05:43
Firestorm65but it's not on the winetricks list05:43
linsirzhuwho has the command set ?05:43
Firestorm65so not sure what to do05:43
XSevenXno holstein I mean how do YOU know these commands?05:43
dr_willisFirestorm65:  checked the wine app database?05:43
Ben64Firestorm65: if you put the dll manually in the system32 directory, you need to enable it with winecfg05:43
holsteinXSevenX: experience..and reading readme's.. and asking questions..05:43
Firestorm65what's the command for that Ben64?05:43
Ben64Firestorm65: winecfg05:44
holsteinXSevenX: i didnt open the terminal the first time.. i just right clicked05:44
Firestorm65lol okay05:44
Firestorm65so what do I do from there?05:44
Firestorm65add it to the list of overrides?05:44
Ben64Firestorm65: yeah, and set it to "native"05:45
linsirzhuwhat are you talking about?05:45
penthIf you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier. Since DF is a 32-bit application, it needs 32-bit versions of the shared libraries. Some Linux distributions provide these in one or more packages that you can download. For example, in Debian, the ia32-libs package contains most of the common 32-bit libraries, including libSDL (saith http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation)05:45
XSevenXholstein it just says chmod: cannot access `./d': No such file or directory05:45
XSevenXsame if I add data/ df05:46
linsirzhuholstein ,I don05:46
holsteinXSevenX: its not './d'.. its './df'05:46
Firestorm65nothing changed05:46
XSevenX4th line says ./d, and then /data df05:46
Firestorm65not sure I did it right05:46
XSevenXerror with something to do with libSDL1.2.so.005:47
holsteinXSevenX: that was a tab complete.. i should have taken that out.. would you like for me to? or can you just skip to the next one that will work?05:47
holsteinXSevenX: is this a 64bit install? as penth asked?05:48
XSevenXso I have to go through the process of downloading libraries for my 64-bit installation05:48
penthfor the libsdl error, see what I just posted above05:48
Curs0r11.10 :) the march progresses haha05:48
Firestorm65I added it, set to native05:48
Firestorm65then tried to run from terminal05:48
Firestorm65same error05:48
XSevenX" If you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier."05:48
XSevenXaka I'm going to want to rip my hair out05:48
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holsteinXSevenX: then run the suggested 32bit 12.0405:49
penthYou chose to play an unpackaged game without source code.05:49
holsteinXSevenX: i literally clicked and ran it from 12.04 32bit..05:49
XSevenXI don't understand what you're saying05:49
Ben64XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs05:49
Firestorm65okay, which version of directx should I install using wine-tricks05:50
Firestorm65the .dll is from directx05:50
holsteinXSevenX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit will help05:50
holsteinXSevenX: assuming you are running a 64bit os.. and trying to run the 32bit game you downloaded05:50
Ben64Firestorm65: have you installed "xact" from winetricks05:51
Firestorm65Is there any way I will hurt anything by installing all the dlls in winetricks05:51
Firestorm65and no, not yet05:51
XSevenXholstein I don't even understand the significance of 32-bit or 64-bit05:51
RustyShacklefordI can't remember the name of a package that lets you tweak pulseaudio05:51
Firestorm65first time running winetricks05:51
Ben64Firestorm65: well you should, the appdb page says to05:51
Ben64http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=703805:51
bsnlOk so it turned out they pretty much sucked at giving directions, I got the program running easy now05:51
XSevenXI simply assumed that 64-bit was better, and that I'm running a fairly high-end and new processor, so I went with a 64-bit OS installation05:51
Ben64XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs05:52
bsnlI don't mean you guys, the people who wrote the directions on the program download website05:52
Firestorm65I don't know what xact is.05:52
bsnlmeant those guys05:52
gnuskoolbsnl, gentoo?05:52
XSevenXand when I was running 32-bit I often had to get specific .dll's in Windows so that 64-bit applications would function properly on my 32-bit OS05:52
XSevenXI did that ben6405:52
Firestorm65nvmd found it05:52
holsteinXSevenX: thats why i would suggest just running 32bit.. or coming here and asking one of the volunteers.. or install the 32bit ia32-libs package that several have suggested05:52
XSevenXit's still installation the libraries05:52
penthIt is, but you'll note from the df wiki that the game is precompiled with 32-bit libraries. No choice but to download the libraries or play somehting else05:52
XSevenXinstalling*05:52
dr_willisi only use 64bit.. and rarely have issues with 32bit apps.05:53
Ben64XSevenX: then you should be good05:53
penthYou could always play nethack or minecraft05:53
SunStari have more issues running a 32bit OS than 6405:53
XSevenXI have yet to try and tackle Minecraft penth05:53
bsnlNo not gentoo, just brainworkshop. They never specified the contents had to be removed from the extracted folder and then placed in the hard drive directory as naked files with no file05:53
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bsnlThat was the problem the whole time05:53
dr_willisia32-libs always get installed on my systems05:53
XSevenXI simply assume from now on that if I want to run anything that I'm not already running on this OS that it is going to take at least 10 hours of continuous effort to do so05:54
gnuskoolXSevenX: isin't this fun?? you'll love the game a lot more after this experience :d05:54
Firestorm65I told winetricks to install ALL directx9 versions it had05:54
Firestorm65did I just break it?05:54
Ben64XSevenX: no it doesn't05:54
XSevenXgnuskool no this is not fun05:54
bsnlthey said the extracted folder containing the contents on the hard drive directory would have run05:54
holsteinXSevenX: please stay on topic in here.. this is *not* where to vent.. we are all volunteers here to help05:54
penthMinecraft has no problem. Use openjdk-6-jre05:54
Ben64XSevenX: i had dwarf fortress running within 2 minutes05:54
XSevenXBen64 you had the libraries that I didn't05:55
XSevenXDF is now running05:55
Ben64which took one command to install05:55
bsnlBut still thanks dr_willis and knoppies for trying to help earlier05:55
penthtadaa05:55
Ben64it's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be05:55
dr_willismagically delicious05:55
XSevenXBen64 you knew the command to get the installation05:55
holsteinXSevenX: if you can relax and stay constructive, it will be helpful for the volunteers.. i had no idea you were on 64bit05:55
XSevenXhow am I supposed to know a command I've never seen?05:55
Ben64it says you need 32 bit libraries on the install page05:55
holstein!ot | XSevenX05:56
ubottuXSevenX: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:56
dr_willisive some  very poorly done linux ports of many humble/indie games...05:56
gnuskoolall is well...05:56
Ben64instead of coming here and ranting for 10 minutes you could have said "hey I don't think i have 32 bit libraries, how do i get em?"05:56
XSevenXbecause how would I even know that ben6405:56
Ben64the readme...05:56
* dr_willis wonders if the game has a forums page05:56
holsteinXSevenX: it says in the readme what you need05:56
bsnlAlso the command I had to run to get brainworkshop to run was just python brainworkshop.pyw and nothing else even though they specified more was needed in the command05:56
penthby reading the readme and the wiki. Also, good Google-fu is a friend for life.05:57
bsnl^05:57
dr_willisbsnl:  i never saw them specify more. ;) but guess it dosent matter05:57
holsteinor asking one of the volunteers to help you read through it..05:57
XSevenXBut why wouldn't these libraries come standard if they are required to run 32-bit programs? That is what I don't understand.05:57
gnuskoolbnsl, you were combining the command plus the directory path that comes before it from the other person's pc, after a while you will notice and only nVIGATE TO THE PATH, THEN ONLY TYPE THE COMMAND05:58
dr_willisXSevenX:  many people dont need them05:58
bsnlOh no dr_willis its not you, I just think the directions they wrote didn't match up with what was working for my computer. The commands probably would have worked for a bunch of ppl but this computer is stubborn at times haha05:58
penthBecause when you install packages from the repository, you're getting 64-bit versions05:58
gnuskoolbnsl, oops CAPS LOCK, my bad05:58
penthand when you compile them yourself, you're creating 64-bit versions. It's rare to need 32-bit libraries on a 54-bit system, and only because you're using precompiled software that wasn't built for 64-bits.05:59
bsnlRight gnuskool but the commands I posted when I was on track were the ones the website gave me and then the commands after that that were suggested by people here05:59
dr_willisabout the only 32bit apps i run are games.. and only the humble-bundle/3rd party games05:59
bsnlI just have a weird machine lol05:59
gnuskoolbsnl, i suggest do a quick tutorial o command line basics and you'll get it in 5 minutes05:59
penth(Plus, when I need a 32-bit system I usually just create a virtual machine anymore)06:00
bsnlI'm just expressing i'm very happy to have finally found an approach that worked, took me a few hours lol06:00
dr_willisbsnl:  for a 5 min task. ;)06:00
XSevenXpenth speaking of "compiling" that is something else I don't understand. I have tried to figure out how to use wine several times, and every guide I find says I need/should enter commands in the terminal after compiling it/to compile it, or something else that I just don't even understand.06:00
penthgj bsnl, and your next go should be smoother06:00
gnuskoolbsnl, awesome06:00
holstein!wine | XSevenX06:01
ubottuXSevenX: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:01
Ben64XSevenX: you don't need to compile anything for wine06:01
dr_willisXSevenX:  ive never needed to compile for wine.. so no idea what you are reading06:01
bsnlWell dr_willis none of the commands offered here were working on my machine to make the program run, I think it was just some bad luck06:01
dr_willisXSevenX:  wine 101,    wine /path/to/the/game.exe06:01
holsteinXSevenX: you just install it.. though i would look for native applications and enjoy some of what the OS actually maintains for you.. see some of the native polish06:01
dr_willisbsnl:  what i saw was typos on your part. ;)06:02
bsnlAnd there were also times where I typed them just fine06:02
XSevenXI posted about this in here a couple weeks back: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141&iTestingId=6133506:02
penthcompiling is something you do with source code, nothing to do with wine. Don't worry about it so much, it was just an example of why 32-bit libraries aren't installed by default06:02
XSevenXI'm not even interested in getting it to run anymore06:02
holsteinXSevenX: so, should the volunteers here ignore that then?06:03
XSevenXbut this is just an example of how I don't understand anything this guide is telling me to do, and I don't understand what it is trying to accomplish06:03
dr_willisbsnl:  every thing i saw was wrong.. but i pop in and out all day.. ;P06:03
panoraindr_willis thank you for the help with my usb earlier06:03
bsnlEverything? But I was pretty much copy/pasting what you gave me after a certain point, why didn't you say anything earlier?06:03
XSevenXI tried rereading the steps for this guide so mmany times, and none of it makes sense to me, I follow them to a point and then I just hit a wall where nothing makes sense.06:04
dr_willisbsnl:  you have to be in the right location.. that was the main error i saw06:04
XSevenXand this has been my experience for every time that I've tried to use wine to install anything- mind you I have only attempted to install "Gold" or better rated programs that have next-to 100% functionality06:04
dr_willis'location, location, location'  ;P06:05
XSevenXso I'm baffled when people keep telling me how easy it is to use wine06:05
bsnlIt's just the stumbling steps of being new, they'll wear off XSevenX06:05
dr_willishmm. i just do   wine gameinstaller.exe        then let it put the icons pn the desktop06:05
gnuskoolXSevenX: look n youtube for a wine video, maybe you'll get it visually much easier, because it really dead easy06:06
XSevenXI have tried this gnuskool.. At first I follow along fine, and then everything gets overcomplicated extremely fast06:07
dr_willisdouble clicking o n the .exes may not work right. since any error messages may get hidden06:07
penthJust never try to run the xp desktop in wine; I flushed a dual-boot partition that way once %)06:07
bsnldr_willis actually the location turned out to be perfectly fine, the embarrassing truth is I had it in the right place all along. The problem was that I needed the files OUTSIDE of the folder in that location, but the download guide on the site said to keep them in the folder after extraction06:08
bsnlthat was pretty much the whole thing in a bottle06:08
XSevenXoften redirected to several websites, where I'll need to make installations of various workarounds for something.. and then I have to go to other websites to get files required by the workarounds, and before I know it, I'm supposed to be making a script or something, or typing out 50 lines of code to get something to function06:08
XSevenXI'm scared to even try to get the proper firmware for any of my hardware because it likely isn't compatible with Linux and I'm going to have to have a workaround for any of it.06:09
bsnlneeded the files inside the folder moved outside of the folder to be in that location, leaving the empty file behind*06:09
bsnlwhoopsy06:09
penthWith experience, you learn to evaluate sources better. AskUbuntu.com and stackexchange are among the most reliable06:09
gnuskoolXSevenX: most drivers are plugnplay nowadays, no need to worry06:09
XSevenXMy keyboard is a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate06:10
XSevenXI've got several issues with it because the proper firmmware is not installed06:10
ASHER1Hello i need please help about ftp server i install ftp and i try to upfile and i get error how i can fix this?06:10
XSevenXI have several keys that rapid-fire repeat VERY quickly, like my m key, which will repeat as many as 20 times in a single press, CONSTANTLY.06:10
XSevenXI confirmmed on my previous PC that this problem was caused with the proper firmware not being installed06:11
penthgaming keyboards are, pardon the pun, twitchy06:11
penthI have a G510 with support issues too06:11
XSevenXhowever Razer does not have a Linuxx version of their software, and so I will be forced to use workarounds, which will no doubt require hours of scripting or something in order to use06:11
dr_willisweird hardware can be weird06:11
XSevenXthe entire prospect makes me not even want to bother, and just use my backspace key mmmore06:11
penthRazor is owned by Microsoft. There will be no official Linux drivers.06:12
dr_willisi found a razer control deamon for my razor mouse the other day06:12
ubuntu22Since apparently there is no zen cart irc in existance, can anyone help me with a small design problem?06:13
gnuskoolubuntu22: ask, maybe someone knows06:14
ubuntu22I am using the default template for zen cart.  I need to change the column width for the product image column on the product listing page.  Inside of zen cart I can change the width of the "Price" column, but not the "Product Image" column.06:16
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bsnllol nevermind dr_willis, you're right, I totally noobed this up hard. I will never try to install something while incredibly groggy ever again lol06:16
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ASHER1Hello06:18
ASHER1i need please help06:18
CoreyOh dear.06:19
CoreyASHER1: What's the error say?06:21
ASHER1i have problem with something06:22
ASHER1and i dont know if this from ftp install ubuntu or later06:22
ASHER1this my error06:22
ASHER1http://ufu.co.il/files/0gl3ad7ck50v0eqxxlc3.jpg06:22
CoreyLooks like an authenticationf ailure, ASHER1.  Did you follow a tutorial?06:23
SunStartry typing https:// at the beginning of the address06:23
ASHER1i try to upfile from updata manager06:25
Corey!il | ASHER106:25
ubottuASHER1: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:06:25
ubottu/join #ubuntu-il06:25
CoreyThat may help.06:25
ASHER1i dont need join there06:25
ASHER1i ask in here06:25
jonya good desktop notes software?06:26
SunStartry typing https:// at the beginning of the address. the server might be rejecting non secure login06:26
ASHER1ok i explain if i write ftp://localhost then i can inside to ftp but if i try to upfile i see error06:27
SunStarare you connecting to a mysql database?06:27
ASHER1yes06:27
SunStarask in #mysql06:28
SunStarsounds like a DB issue06:28
ASHER1no :\ you dont understand i explain again i try to upfile from update manager and this computer give to me error later computer no i dont why06:29
SunStardid you look at the file its pointing you to? the ftp.include?06:30
SunStarhave you checked your drupal configs?06:31
SunStarhave you tried asking in #drupal06:31
SunStari'd be very surprised if this is actually an ubuntu issue. its an issue with one of your webserver scripts / ftp server / mysql database06:32
dr_willisglad i stick with scp/ssh/sshfs06:36
panoraincan you help me with slitaz 4 ?06:36
dr_willispanorain:  since its not ubuntu.. not really. check their official support channels?06:36
dr_willisor the #linux channel06:36
panoraindr_willis ok thank you06:37
dr_willisthe alias bot can search for a slitaz channel06:37
dr_willis!alis06:38
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:38
metalsHi. After installing Ubuntu on my external HDD, it shows this during boot: ata_id 311 hdio_get_identity failed for invalid argument what should I do?06:40
dr_willismetals:  is it actually failiong to boot?\06:41
dr_willisfailing06:41
metalsIt brings up the purple Ubuntu page and then shows this message in a black page and does nothing afterwards06:42
dr_willisim not sure that message is the cause of the issue. I recall seeing the same thing on my working systems.06:42
dr_willisYou may want to try the nomodeset option.    or the text based options.. to see if it can boot those ways06:42
dr_willis!nomodeset06:42
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:42
SunStarhow long did you give it? i've seen ubuntu based systems running from USB take as long as 20 minutes to boot06:43
dr_willisHmm. ive ran from normal USB flash drives.. definatly did not take that long. ;) but they are definatly slower then a internal HD.06:43
metalsactually, it is a USB 3 external one and I had Kubuntu on it and worked very well06:44
dr_willisperhaps 3 min  here from a external usb flash drive06:44
dr_willisNot sure if my system can boot from USB3.. may have to try that this weekend.06:45
SunStar20 minutes was from a casper system running on a first gen P4 over USB1.1 HDD (single wire for both power & data)06:45
dr_willisusb1 ;)  *shudder*06:45
dr_willisand here we are with usb3 - but esata was supposed to take over..  still waiting for that.06:46
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metalsso ya think I have to wait until it comes up?06:53
SunStarno you should do a debug startup and watch the boot process06:56
SunStaralso check all the connections. last time i had trouble with a USB HDD, it was missing a pin on the USB adapter06:57
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jeeves_mosshow can I look for duplicate videos in a very large data set?  I need to look baised on content06:59
metalsSunStar: how can I do that?07:01
ero-jijievenin all07:04
kalenjohnsonI just had the xsession-errors shoot up to around 60gb tonight, on my 120gb SSD, so it filled the drive... silly xsessions07:07
ero-jijistupid question about fschk, normally, when i want to run it, i do : sudo su to get root, then shutdown -rF now. is there a way to make the server automaticly do a fschk any time its rebooted?07:07
Curs0rOh dear. after an upgrade to 12.04 and a reboot asterisk isn't running at all haha07:07
dr_willisero-jiji:  dont use sudo su. just use sudo -i   and yes there is...07:08
dr_willis!fsck07:08
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:08
Curs0ror wait, it is it just took longer to start than it used to07:08
dr_willisCurs0r:  it had a busy signal? ;)07:09
ero-jiji@dr_willis thanks, still got a bit of learning to do ^^07:09
dr_willis@ is for twitter. not IRC also... ;)07:09
Curs0rdr_willis, hehe07:09
dr_willisdr_W<tab> will auto complete my nick on most clients.07:09
ero-jijiits a mod of my script if i higlight someone and hit reply, using the old UPP with a bunch of mods07:10
ero-jijiusualy to lazy to type a name haha07:10
nulihello any body help me Codeigniter? I have question..07:10
Curs0rgnuskool, rebuilding the dadhi modules now :)07:11
nulihello any body help me about Codeigniter? I have question and some problem..07:11
nulihello07:11
kalenjohnsonnuli, no need to ask multiple times...07:12
nulikalen, I have some question about codeigniter07:13
kalenjohnsonnuli, Yes I saw that. This is a channel about Ubuntu though...07:14
strkright after an upgrade of packages in 12.04.2 LTS the GUI doesn't start automatically anymore, complaining with being unable to use the correct resolution and prompting for: "Use low graphic mode, ..." but can't pick a choice as the neither the mouse nor the keyboard seem to control that07:15
strkI can stll CTRL-ALT-F2, login from terminal and stop/start gdm to get a working DE07:16
strkany idea what could have caused this ?07:16
kalenjohnsonstrk, I just had that problem, but mine happened because the disk was full because .xsession-errors was going crazy and filling up to 60+gb's07:16
strk-rw------- 1 strk strk 116482 Mar  5 19:07 .xsession-errors07:17
kalenjohnsonyours is fine :)07:18
strk1304420 kb available on the most crowded filesystem07:18
nulihow to visible .htaccess file on ubuntu???07:18
grynuli: In what file manager?07:18
strkfound the unusable prompt to be "zenity" (just killed to confirm)07:19
kalenjohnsonthat durn zenity07:19
grynuli: Try checking your file manager settings for a "Show hidden files" setting.07:19
rsumianyone know of file system that can support more than 30tb as a single partition?07:19
nulihow to setting it???07:19
grynuli: I wouldn't know, the process is different for different file managers. What file manager are you using?07:19
apb1963_I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script.  Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that?  Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e".  Not sure how to get from here to there.  Any help?07:20
nulisorry im new comer on ubuntu,,,  File manager,, what do u mean sir??07:21
apb1963_rsumi: Why not use LVM?  Logical Volume Manager.  Disclaimer: That's all I know about the subject.07:21
strkkalenjohnson: but can't apt-get remove zenity or compiz or unity w/out being prompted to drop "ubuntu-desktop" :/ -- should I drop that ? (I use gnome classic)07:21
dr_willisnautilus is the default file manager for Ubuntu/unity/gnome07:21
dr_willisstrk:  ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package. its ok to remove it07:22
dr_willisi dont see the point in removeing those packages however07:22
gnuskoolrsumi: zfs?07:22
dr_willisctrl-h in nautilus shows 'hidden files' those starting with a .   nuli07:23
strkdr_willis: do you have any idea how to debug the problem with zenity being started and not responding to mouse or keyword events then ?07:24
SunStaraka CTRL + (H)ide my porn07:24
Curs0r channel.c:5603 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'DAHDI' uh-oh. And it seemed to be going so well07:24
gnuskoolrsumi: use zfs on freenas07:24
dr_willisstrk:  not heard of any others with that issue. so no idea. not seen it mentioned in here.07:24
nrdbI am setting up a sshd in a chroot, do I need to change the etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key files?07:25
dr_willis!info zenity07:25
ubottuzenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.0-2 (quantal), package size 61 kB, installed size 316 kB07:25
jeeves_mosshow can I mount a smb share from the GUI to a location so I can then access the share from the CLI?07:26
SunStarsymbolic link?07:27
dr_willisjeeves_moss: i think nautilys allready puts them in your users .gvfs directory07:27
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jeeves_mossdr_willis, under the home dir?07:27
apb1963_rsumi:  The ext4 filesystem can support volumes with sizes up to 1 exbibyte (EiB) and files with sizes up to 16 tebibytes (TiB).  Disclaimer: I went to wikipedia for info.  You can too!07:27
dr_willisjeeves_moss:  thats where .gvfs is at.. yes07:27
jeeves_mossdr_willis, thanks07:28
SunStarnot in my system07:28
jeeves_mossdr_willis, you 'da man07:28
dr_willis!info fusesmb07:30
ubottufusesmb (source: fusesmb): filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-1.1 (quantal), package size 28 kB, installed size 140 kB07:30
dr_willisi wonder how well fusesmb works these days.. i used it for ages.. then it started having issues07:31
dr_willisanyone tried it recently? it puts all your windows shares/machines in a 'Directory' that changes as the network changes/shares showup/vanish07:31
apb1963_zfs sonds better.  lol07:32
apb1963_+u07:32
dr_willisi dont think zfs is officially in the kernel yet is it?07:32
dr_willis!zfs07:32
ubottuFor information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS07:32
Curs0rI think I can feel bits of my brain falling away like so much wet cake07:32
apb1963_I could go for some wet cake07:32
dr_willisthe wet cake is a wet lie.07:33
dr_willis;P07:33
apb1963_But so sweet07:33
Firestorm65"Create the registry string HKCU/Software/Wine/Direct3D/OffscreenRenderingMode and set it to fbo "07:33
Firestorm65How do I do that?07:33
Curs0rdamn portal fans are everywhere07:33
apb1963_firestorm: #windows is probably a better yet, but "regedit" is prolly what you want.07:33
Curs0rI grow further impressed with my inability to master what sounded like such a simple task 10 hours ago lol07:33
apb1963_s/yet/bet07:33
apb1963_I've put off my simple tasks all day... I figure why do today what I can do this weekend?07:34
gnuskoolcursor, not working?07:34
gnuskoolCurs0r: not working?07:35
apb1963_I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script.  Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that?  Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e".  Not sure how to get from here to there.  Any help?07:35
Curs0rgnuskool, your advice worked wonderfully. Now my dear asterisk server is not so well with our friend the card or... something.07:35
Curs0rNo channels is the cry of asterisk as my software sip client also fails admiraly at nat traversal07:36
Curs0radmirably*07:36
subcoolwhats the deal with boot-repair?07:37
Curs0rBut the modules are indeed loaded nad they do load themselves after a reboot, so yay there. The inevitable however is that asterisk seems most displeased with it07:37
apb1963_Curs0r: could you wax less poetic and wane more specific?07:39
Curs0rI am not prepared to rule out nat traversal being part of the issue in gaining a dahdi channel as it doesn't stay connected to the hold music longer than 60 seconds07:39
dr_willis please state your questions  in the form of a haiku .....07:39
apb1963_heh07:40
Curs0rI literally have not slept in 36 hours, pardon me if get a bit abstract07:40
apb1963_I'm pretty sure you found the problem then07:40
subcooldr_willis, whats up with boot repair? i cant install it- i have added the repo. but its just not in there07:40
Curs0rYes well I'd much rather sleep than deal with this to be sure07:40
dr_willissubcool:  no idea. could be server is down or getting updated07:41
Curs0rRobert Frost had some lofty verbiage about that I think07:41
apb1963_I prefer the verbiage of Mr. Freeze07:41
subcoolgreat- and and one liveusb i do have keeps complaining about closing some software manager :/07:41
subcooldr_willis, ^^07:42
tsdhHi. Is there a way to disable all effects in unity? I'm running it in a VirtualBox, and it's very slow and compiz takes up one third of the complete memory.07:42
subcooldr_willis, any particular rreason it would be doing that?07:42
dr_willismake sure all rhe apt tols are closed.07:42
dr_willisthere is a custom boot-repair live cd.07:42
subcooli freashly booted the usb, and ran the program. and it still said that07:43
dr_willis!fixapt07:43
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »07:43
subcoolthanks!07:43
sinnfluterhi and good morning07:45
sinnfluteranybody experienced with follwowing setup: RDP-Connection to Ubuntu as VM on a cluster? And time settings in such set ups?07:46
clodyif I want to add a script on ubuntu bootup, where do I add it ?07:46
clodyinside /etc/init.d/rc.local ?07:46
sinnfluter@clody: maybe you can find something here: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown07:47
sinnfluterhow can I find out where my OS is taking the time from??07:48
gnuskoolCurs0r: all modules load ok?07:48
Curs0rgnuskool, yes that is correct07:48
strkFYI: dropping unity* fixed my issue with graphic mode07:48
gnuskoolCurs0r: im at work man, but i'll try give hints when i can07:49
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dr_willisclody: depends on what its doing also07:49
Curs0rWell I can call my own sip client extension from it. calling the PTSN with my cell doesn't ring my extension so the dahdi isn't happy07:50
clodydr_willis, lemme check if this works, brb07:50
Curs0rBut we knew that so I'm kind of stating the obvious there07:50
clodythanks sinnfluter for now07:50
AAAsinnfluter: do you mean the timezone? or how is it keeping in sync? (like ntp)07:51
sinnfluterhow it is keeping the sync07:51
sinnfluterbecause after setting the time manually with sudo date ...07:52
AAAsinnfluter: do you have ntp and/or ntpd installed?07:52
sinnfluterntp07:52
sinnfluterntp is installed and there is a /etc/ntp.conf07:52
AAAsinnfluter: ntpdate should give you the server information07:52
AAAsinnfluter: did you update them after install? what is your concern?07:53
sinnfluterit says no servers can be used07:53
AAAntpdate <ntpd servername>07:53
sinnfluterntpdate <ntpd servername> says that the ntp socket is in use07:54
VinceThePrincewhat is the correct name for "screen docking" I want to enable this is in Ubuntu/Xubuntu07:54
AAAsinnfluter: ntpdate time-a.nist.gov07:55
Curs0rhttp://pastebin.com/x9jsEa2x is what I get trying to use the dahdi for a dial out07:55
sinnfluterI think this is an issue of the combination VM, Remote Desktop or so07:55
AAAsinnfluter: can you pastebin your ntpd.conf?07:55
sinnfluterI can't use external time servers07:55
sinnfluterbut we have an internal one which has the correct time07:56
AAAsinnfluter: so you put a real server in the ntpdate command then? ok07:56
AAAsinnfluter: is it firewalled?07:56
AAAsinnfluter: port 123 normally, can you telnet to that port on the ntpd server?07:57
Curs0rDerp, higher verbosity setting is good for complex problems. man I'm tired lol07:57
sinnfluterhttp://pastebin.com/3x6T7fpt07:57
sinnfluter@AAA I used a real server07:58
gnuskoolCurs0r: pastebin the output of dahdi_cfg -vv08:00
AAAsinnfluter: the fallback one works.  I'm guessing you have firewall issues08:01
Curs0rgnuskool, http://pastebin.com/MB5Ctx8b08:01
sinnfluteras I said....I can't use external ntp-servers (so the fallback might not work), but I can use the internal ones08:01
sinnfluterbut somehow ntp is not using them...really large offset between the time on ntp servers and my actual time08:02
sinnfluter2 hours08:02
AAAsinnfluter: how often are the crons running on the client machines?08:02
sinnfluterhow to find that out? I've to say I am not very experienced yet...08:03
AAAsinnfluter: each client (computer,host,server) that needs to rely on that time should run a cron (probably from root) that does an ntp update08:04
sinnfluterI am just wondering where I get my weird time from....08:04
Kimerawhat is a good high quality cell phone that works with ubuntu well?08:05
subcooldr_willis, ok. i have 2 package that are not fully installed. how do i remove them? - they are causing the error08:05
dr_willissubcool:  hmm, not sure - i rarely have to fight with apt errors..   apt-get -f install       is a normal way to straighten things out08:06
Firestorm65Okay, last question for wine I hope.08:06
Kimerawhat packages?08:06
dr_willisthey really need to make  up some apt wizard to help repair apt when it gets confused. or give advice08:06
Kimerabecause I would just uninstall the two packages08:07
Firestorm65There are some .dll packages that are called by the .exe in a folder within the program tree08:07
clodywhats a great vpn service08:07
Firestorm65How do I add those to wine08:07
Firestorm65?08:07
Kimeraand basically start over again08:07
Kimerasudo apt-get uninstall and then whatever the packages08:07
dr_willisclody:  been using digitalocean here. but its a vps ;) but theres a $10 credit cupon/advert on omgubuntu blog site for them.08:08
sinnfluterAAA: but for testing I could actually fire the ntpdate "servername" command manually08:08
subcooldr_willis, nah i dont wanna install it- it appears to try to install it- and just wont. i rather remove it from the install list08:08
subcoolKimera, thanks- ill try it08:08
dr_willisit might need to get installed.. then removed.. i rarely fight with apt08:08
clodydr_willis, whats difference between vps and vpn ?08:08
Kimerayeah I would also try what dr_willis says08:08
sinnfluterAAA: but that does not work as the ntp socket is in use...what does that mean?08:08
dr_willisclody:  i  can ssh into my  online server and do things. and even setup a web site if i wanted.  im running znc on it now. the lowest one is $5 a month.08:09
subcoolKimera, uninstall is not an option08:09
subcoolremove?08:09
Kimerawell, that is why i recommended the sudo apt-get08:09
Kimerathough you could try08:09
dr_willisclody:  a vpn connects more then 1 machine to a virtual private network. ;) never really used that.08:09
Kimerasudo apt-get audoremove08:09
Kimeraautoremove08:09
subcooltrid  that- didnt work08:09
clodydr_willis, hows the service ? bandwidthwise ?08:10
AAAsinnfluter: is ntpd running on the machine you are trying to update from another server?08:10
dr_willisclody:  all i do is run znc on it. so cant say its been an issue.08:10
clodydr_willis, if I check my gmail using vpn will it think I am logging from different country ?08:10
dr_willisclody:  no idea. I dont use vpns08:11
clodyokk08:11
dr_willisclody:  you could use a ssh tunnle to  the vps i imagine. :) if thats what you want08:11
dr_willisor X forwarding..08:11
clodyi want a vpn, maybe max 2 machines will use it08:11
clodymy gmail was hacked .....i hate it08:12
sinnfluterAAA: how can I find out if ntpd is running?08:12
AAAsinnfluter: sudo ps aux |grep ntp08:12
dr_willisyou might be able to set up openvpn on the thing..  only other thing ive used was btguardian (or btguard?)  a year+ ago.. its not what you are looking for howevver. ;)08:12
Kimerasubcool, can you find the packages in the software center08:12
Kimeracause if not, ever though about trying to complete the installations08:13
clodydr_willis, what is bitguardin good for ?08:13
clodytorrent ?08:13
subcooli just used remove08:13
Kimerabecause if the packages are in the software center08:13
subcoolsorry for the dumb q's - i just dont wanna break it badly08:13
Kimerathere are really easy to remove08:13
dr_willisclody:  yep.08:13
subcoolim recovering from some randomd mess up08:14
KimeraI could help better if I knew what the specific packages were08:14
sinnfluterhttp://pastebin.com/pn0TsjfC is what I get for ntp-processes08:14
subcoolsome linux-image-kernel#-gnereic08:14
clodydr_willis, where are the servers ?08:14
dr_willisclody:  seems you can set up openvpn on digitalocean.. from what i just googled.08:14
subcooli was trying to install pastebinit- and it requited those packages08:14
subcooland then failed08:14
subcoolidk=08:14
subcoolits a liveusb08:14
subcoolthings are funky08:14
FloodBot1subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:14
dr_willisclody:  check the digitalocean homepage.. they got some in New York and some others in Europe i belive08:14
Kimeraahh, I wouldn't have had the balls to mess with something like that08:15
subcoolhahah - it still errored08:15
subcoolthis usb need a reflash anyways- :/08:15
Kimerawell my last ditch suggestion08:15
sinnfluterAAA: so it seems that ntpd is running08:16
Kimerais wiping your system completely and reinstalling ubuntu if its causing any major difficulty08:16
AAAsinnfluter: is that one of your private ntpd servers?08:16
sinnfluteryeas08:16
Kimeracayse it sounds like, you went into some higher terminal functions then I ever mess with08:16
sinnfluteryes08:16
subcoolhaha- Kimera already on it- i just reinstall 12.04 because my networking got fungled somehow08:16
default#333333333308:16
AAAsinnfluter: is the time wrong there?08:16
Kimerathen again I don't do networking08:17
sinnfluterits called ntp08:17
KimeraI use ubuntu cause I like it more then apple or microsoft08:17
subcoolKimera, same- im trying ot keep on it- but some stuff just doesnt work08:17
subcoolonce i setup my laptops up- ill be setting up a mac on one.08:18
clodydr_willis, thanks lemme check08:18
subcoolbut- im running into way to many issues08:18
sinnfluterAAA: I don't think that the time is wrong at the server "ntp"...but how can I just read that time?08:18
Kimeralike with installation, or modificiation?08:18
AAAsinnfluter: with date? I'm not sure what you mean08:19
_ingsocHello, I was wondering where I could find Ubuntu's freetype2 patches? Are they hosted somewhere?08:20
sinnfluterAAA: no I want to read the time of our internal ntp server to see if this is correct08:20
_ingsocI know there are the Infinality patches, but I want to try the Ubuntu equivalent.08:20
sinnfluterAAA: with date I get the time of my machine08:20
Kimerafreetype208:21
Kimeraain't that the microsoft fonts for office08:21
_ingsocNo, I'm referring to the patches for this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/freetype that Ubuntu uses.08:22
subcoolits still complaining about closing package managers. :/08:23
AAAsinnfluter: ntpdate -q <time server> should tell you08:24
AAAsinnfluter: the -q is 'query only'08:24
subcoolhow the heck is a package manager effecting a boot-repair program08:25
apb1963_Curs0r: pastebin chan_dahdi.conf08:25
Firestorm65Can someone walk me through how to fix a program's local .dll failing to load for wine?08:25
Curs0r/etc/dahdi/system.conf had some wrongness to it I just fixed hehe08:26
apb1963_double entries perhaps?08:26
sinnfluterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5589803/08:26
sinnfluterso there is a large offset...08:26
Curs0rIt was completely wrong, erroneous lines, and wrong numbering08:26
apb1963_that doesn't help much08:27
llutzsinnfluter: are you sure your timezone is set correctly?08:27
apb1963_better now?08:27
Curs0rNow on to the file you requested, 1 sec08:27
AAAsinnfluter: if you run it without the '-q' is doesn't work?08:27
apb1963_best to test and show output first...  hard to imagine you're getting the same error08:28
sinnfluterif I run it without the q it says that the NTP socket is in use08:28
AAAsinnfluter: if this isn't a production server, I'd say do this08:28
AAAsinnfluter: /etc/init.d/ntpd stop && ntpdate <local ntpd sever> && /etc/init.d/ntpd start08:29
Curs0rchan_dahdi is riddled with example crap and is too big for me to copy the entire contents via ssh/nano it seems08:29
AAAsinnfluter: and then make sure ntpd is running (ps aux|grep ntp)08:30
apb1963_Curs0r: nobody wants to see example crap... weed it out08:30
dr_williscopy via nano? err.. use scp08:30
apb1963_if you want to keep it, make a copy for posterity08:30
Curs0rOk, that is going to take me a bit. It's a horrible lot of bloat here lol08:30
apb1963_then weed it08:30
dr_williswith extreme prejudice08:31
apb1963_May I suggest sed?08:31
VinceThePrinceIf I show my specs Can anyone say if I have enough resources to run an Virtual Windows XP in Ubuntu 12.04?08:31
dr_willisVinceThePrince:  it dosent take a lot to do xp in vbox.08:31
dr_willisVinceThePrince:  ram seems to be the limiting factor in many cases08:32
sinnfluterAAA: what I get: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpd stop && ntpdate ntp && /etc/init.d/ntpd start sudo: /etc/init.d/ntpd: command not found08:32
bleomycinanyone know how to blacklist the module for spdif for intel? i seem to be suffering from this problem but can't figure out the module to blacklist? http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Intel_Linux_Modifications_for_HD_Audio#Intel_Systems_with_both_SPDIF_.26_HDMI08:32
AAAsinnfluter: maybe the daemon is just called ntp, or something similar. look around08:33
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AAAsinnfluter: the '&&' made the oneliner stopo right after ../ntpd stop08:33
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AAAsinnfluter: *hint* ls /etc/init.d/*ntp*08:34
sinnfluterAAA: I also found it...without the "d" in the end08:36
VinceThePrincedr_willis, 4 GB RAM and core i5 should run an XP fine right?08:36
VinceThePrincedr_willis, I don't know what load it takes on Ubuntu08:36
l057c0d3rVinceThePrince, that should be fine..08:36
_ingsocbleomycin: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldno't you iec958 if it's available through grep?08:36
AAAsinnfluter: cool. is date giving you the proper time now?08:36
_ingsocwouldn't*08:36
sinnfluterAAA: I was able to stop it...and when I run your command step by step08:37
apb1963_Curs0r: try sed '/^#/ d'08:37
l057c0d3rVinceThePrince, you can select how much ram to dedicate to the virtual box ext during setup of it.. but with 4gb or ram you should be fine..  really all depends on what you are trying to use it for.....  but i've ran one with less08:37
sinnfluterAAA: ...and when I run sudo ntpdate ntp: 6 Mar 09:35:37 ntpdate[4594]: step time server 62.141.187.4 offset -5514.036578 sec08:37
bleomycin_ingsoc: it shows up through the aplay grep command, but not in lsmod which is confusing08:37
sinnfluterand the time hasn'T changed...the offset is probably to large08:38
_ingsocbleomycin: Hmm, same for me.08:38
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sinnfluterAAA: anyway I have to leave for the moment and will be hopefully back soon---08:38
AAAsinnfluter: ok. look into hwclock man page too08:39
Es0tericok so i made a new user account, with password and when i try to run source command i get this: -sh: source: not found08:39
Es0tericwhy is that?08:39
Es0terici made the new user account via ssh08:40
l057c0d3rEs0teric, groups maybe?08:40
Es0tericwhat do you mean?08:40
l057c0d3roh wait..08:40
AAAEs0teric: what is your path? echo $PATH (as that user)08:40
llutzEs0teric: source is a bash-builtin, you seem to use dash08:40
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l057c0d3rif you are in the directory of the source have youj tried ./"flie"08:40
prakak08:41
llutzEs0teric: getent passwd <username>             does your new user have bash as login-shell?08:41
Es0tericthis is my $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games08:41
llutzEs0teric: source is a bash-builtin, you seem to use dash08:41
Es0tericok ok how do i check if the user has bash as login shell?08:41
llutzi just showed you08:42
AAAor grep <user> /etc/passwd08:42
llutzwhich will fail with ldap etc08:42
AAAtrue08:42
Es0tericllutz -> jude:x:1003:27::/home/jude:/bin/sh08:42
llutzEs0teric: dash, not bash "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username"08:42
llutzEs0teric: then relogin08:43
Es0tericthere we go08:43
Es0tericthanks, llutz08:43
Es0tericnow i have to do that same thing for 3 other users08:43
Es0teric=_=08:43
llutzEs0teric: next time you'd use "adduser" not useradd to add users08:44
Es0tericah i see, llutz08:44
llutzEs0teric: just a wrapperscript, but preventing this issue08:44
dr_willis!info lm-sensors08:47
ubottulm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 98 kB, installed size 395 kB08:47
AAAllutz: wouldn't changing the shabang to #!/bin/bash done the same thing?08:47
l057c0d3rdr_willis, heh its odd you would info that...08:47
dr_willisheh - text was scrolled up.. answered a question from 6+ hrs ago08:47
llutzAAA: for every script you ever run? yes08:47
l057c0d3ri installed that for my system monitor..  but the monitor is still telling me i need to install it :-p08:47
dr_willissilly android irc client likes to go to the top of the buffer when i come back to it08:48
l057c0d3rjust decided i didn't need the fan speed.. since i have temp and everything else im worried about08:48
llutzAAA: but the source command wouldn't do anyways, because it is shell-builtin from bash08:48
dr_willisl057c0d3r:  you ran the sensor-detect tool?08:48
AAAllutz: my point was, wouldn't that be the long ther solution for this issue?08:48
l057c0d3rdr_willis, nope.. but i will now :-p08:48
dr_willisor was it sensors-detect08:48
AAAllutz: I see08:48
dr_willisits a wizard thing that scans and loads modules you may need loaded l057c0d3r08:49
llutzAAA: imo its better to set users shell to bash. dash is fine for system-tasks, but user... not really08:49
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l057c0d3rbah.. at the end it said no sensors found08:51
l057c0d3rheh oh well08:51
l057c0d3ri can live without fan speed08:51
dr_williscould be theres no sensor on the fan08:51
l057c0d3rnot sure what changed.. but after the last set of updates i installed.. my system has been running at 35c rather then 50c08:52
l057c0d3rwonder what was fixed :-p08:52
dr_willisthe numbering of the temps.. ;)08:52
l057c0d3rha08:53
llutzAAA: it would be easy to circumvent that problem, if the useradd-default wouldn't still be set to /bin/sh while they changed /bin/sh into a link to /bin/dash (/bin/bash before) "grep SHELL /etc/default/useradd"08:53
dr_willisif i recall right. the sensor apps get some sort of raw data from the sensors.. then has to convert it to the actual temp. sometimes its wrong in converting08:53
VinceThePrinceda hell I can't paste screenshots into libreoffice what is this magic :(08:53
l057c0d3rmakes sense08:53
dr_willisi thought sh was a link to dash08:53
llutzdr_willis: it is and thats causing the problem when using useradd08:54
sinnfluter_AAA: hi...am back on another machine, but with ssh to my machine with the time problem08:54
llutzdr_willis: "historical" it has been linked to /bin/bash08:54
AAAllutz: yeah, I forget about shit like that. I mainly deal with private repos for that stuff08:54
dr_willisso the issue is useradd is using sh then? :)08:54
llutzdr_willis: yes08:54
llutzand people use useradd without "-s /bin/bash"08:55
dr_willisfriends dont let friends use useradd. ;-)08:56
llutzfriends don't ask friends before they use useradd08:56
dr_willisi cant recall ever using useradd.. always adduser.08:57
sinnfluter_AAA: I think i'm getting closer to the problem with hwclock as you said... I have to find out more about the hwclock command in a virtual machine08:58
llutzi'm not sure what the gui-app uses as default-shell when creating a new useraccount... but nobody should use that anyways08:58
kepleri used useradd before, it was a travesty and i forever couldn't remember which was the good one or bad one, so each time i add a user, i use useradd and hate myself then adduser08:58
tasslehoffWhen I do apt-get update on my T530@12.10, stuff gets unresponsive. Today dmesg threw some I/O errors, and my entire filesystem was suddenly readonly. Any know issues with 12.10/T530/SSD/Write?08:58
hectorhello09:01
l057c0d3ri don't even know why i have a swap.....  system has been running for two weeks now.. and still hasen't touched swap.. even when i was working it....09:01
hectorhow can  I get brightness working on samsung netbook?09:02
hectorit used to work, but does not for a while09:02
hectorhow can  I get brightness working on samsung netbook?09:03
l057c0d3rhector, not sure sorry..  its just always worked on all my systems so never had to look into it09:04
dmitry29Hi09:04
dmitry29Anyone cares to chat via skype?09:05
l057c0d3r!rules dmitry2909:05
l057c0d3r!rules| dmitry2909:05
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l057c0d3rbah..  never mind09:06
hectorthank you l057c0d3r09:06
l057c0d3rhector, i can look into it a bit for you though.. no promises though09:06
l057c0d3rwhat modle is it?09:07
dmitry29ubottu: What does the guidelines say about my last message?09:08
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somsipdmitry29: I think that was the intended message09:08
hectorthank you l057c0d3r, it is samsung n150+09:08
dmitry29somsip: What does an intending message mean?09:09
dmitry29Intended09:09
somsipdmitry29: ask your question if you have a support issue.09:09
ronillonHello, im trying to prevent ubuntu opening a root folder of usb flash after it is connected. this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160970 didnt work, as the options and paths do not exist. any ideas?09:10
l057c0d3rhector, check this stuff out and see if it helps any09:10
l057c0d3rhector, https://launchpad.net/samsung-tools09:10
l057c0d3rhector, and i know this has to do with arch but it might help some https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N15009:11
hectorthank you, now looking!09:11
dmitry29somsip: Is this channel only for support issues?09:13
somsipdmitry29: yes09:13
l057c0d3rdmitry29, yes09:13
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l057c0d3rah.. that is what i was looking for earlier somsip  :-p09:13
bubba_rayHey guys, how can i best notify a user of a 12.04 graphical mode that he needs to do a reboot? Just touching /var/run/reboot-required does not do the trick09:16
keplercat /dev/urandom | write <user> <tty>09:17
suoreHello :009:18
suoreI've some questions09:18
keplerhe'll reboot if he gets that cropping up somewhere09:18
suoreLinux is officialy the PC?.09:18
kepleror you can wall09:18
IzzoDizzosuore ?09:18
keplerhis notification manager should pick that up09:18
suoreMac is Mac..., Windows is PC, Linux also is PC?09:18
IzzoDizzomac is PC too really, personall computer09:19
keplerbubba_ray: just verified it works. use "wall" type "You need to reboot!" then ctrl+d09:19
keplermay need to sudo wall09:19
bubba_rayOh! i did not know about wall. Ill have a look. Thnx! :)09:20
suoreIF mac is PC , why in box is written "For PC/Mac computers"??09:20
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keplersuore: just marketing09:20
bonoman shutdown: -k     Only send out the warning messages and disable logins, do not actually bring the system down09:20
keplernothing else09:20
suoreso Linux also is PC?  right?09:20
hectorI'm checking if samsung tools and samsung backlight are properly installed on my pc09:20
jonyhow can I low-level format an USB stick?09:20
keplerlinux is a kernel for an operating system09:20
k1lsuore: you got it wrong. that is from the old days when mac used other hardware09:20
IzzoDizzosuore: linux can be run on a PC too yes09:21
somsipIzzoDizzo: mac is not PC. PC is an old term dating back to IBM PC-AT (AFAIR). As in 'PC-AT compatible'09:21
keplerjony: dd09:21
dr_willisjony:  ive only ever needed to use 'dd' to zero out a usb stick. then repartion it09:21
suorek1l, aaah  okay :) thanks09:21
IzzoDizzosomsip: i think most days people use PC as personal computer now?09:21
jonyhow can I lunch it?09:21
l057c0d3rsuore, if its a software package.. or a game..  they are refering to windows when they say pc..  and mac when they say mac... however they are all pc's  and linux can run most windows software with wine...09:21
llutzsomsip: earlier, pc-XT :)09:21
ewookThe destinction of mac as not a PC, is.. incorrect. Even when it was powerpc. The term PC relates even to the Mac segment.09:22
keplerjony: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<drive> bs=1M09:22
bubba_raykepler: however.... wall only looks like it will dump the message in a terminal. I would really like to push it to several users and via the graphical interface (i thought that reboot-required should lit up the top bar with a red power off icon, but no.)09:22
suorewine wine.... native is better :D09:22
dr_willisjony:  you may want to use gparted instead09:22
keplerbubba_ray: it showed up in my notification center when i did it09:22
somsipllutz: ah - forgot. AFAIR didn't remember far back enough :)09:22
jonyhow can I scan the available devices?09:22
dr_willis!blkid09:22
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)09:22
bubba_rayKepler: Ok, ill have another look, thnx09:23
keplerbubba_ray: i have a little blue circle telling me there is a message, and when i click it, it is the walled message09:23
l057c0d3rsuore, well on the bright side..  steam is migrating a lot of stuff over09:23
somsipIzzoDizzo: they may use it that way, but though a Mac is a personal computer, it is not a PC. Enough semantics. OT09:23
bubba_raykepler: ok, i didnt get that.09:23
suorel057c0d3r, i know, a've all linux games from steam :009:23
suoreall works perfect09:23
keplerbubba_ray: im on kubuntu, so that may be why09:23
suoresome works faster than my Windows XP09:23
suoreim waiting for DOD:S , and DOTA and im removing WIndows partition09:24
l057c0d3rtf2 runs great i know that much09:24
suore:)09:24
k1lsuore: do you have a specific ubuntu support issue?09:24
ronillonHello, im trying to prevent ubuntu opening a root folder of usb flash after it is connected. this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160970 didnt work, as the options and paths do not exist. any ideas?09:24
jonyand if gparted won't show my stick, it meens that's dead?09:24
suoreooh yea09:24
keplerjony: is it not recognized anywhere else either?09:25
bubba_raykepler: ah ok, it must be. i get nothing in unity09:25
suorehow to run any app in other language, without relogin?09:25
jonyno09:25
suorefx. firefox09:25
keplerjony: not looking good for that drive09:25
wh1t3l10nI want a free VPN for Ubuntu, help me!09:25
jonybut if I insert to an USB port, it blinks 3 times09:25
l057c0d3rwh1t3l10n, a vpn is a vpn  regardless.. check google....09:25
hectorfound voria.org site, http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29609:26
k1lwh1t3l10n: hoster questions are not ubuntu support specific. pelase see the offtopic channel09:26
Kartagiswh1t3l10n: VPN server? VPN client? VPN service?09:26
hectorthis seems to be promising :)09:26
keplerjony: i think the activity LED can act independently of the actual disks -- the 3 blinks may even be an indicator of error09:26
wh1t3l10nKartagis: A VPN service :)09:26
l057c0d3rhey hector any luck with that issue?09:26
jonykepler, ty09:26
suoreone wepage require webrowser in french language, to login/register.... so how to change in terminal language of firefox, chrome ( language is intalled)09:26
hectoryes, hopefully :) I found this voria site: http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29609:26
hectorit seems to promise a solutionb09:26
hectorsolution*09:26
l057c0d3rsuore.. u sure its the language they want.. or the location..09:27
suoreno location09:27
suorebecause i change language in loginscreen09:27
suoreand i normay registred09:27
suorenormal09:27
hectorbut my modem is a bit slow, so it takes a while with update-upgrade09:27
suoreand loging09:27
l057c0d3rk.. just thought i would ask09:27
suoreim trying use LC_TIME="locate.utf8"09:27
suorelater /usr/bin/firefox, but not working09:28
guest123hi ..  is there a list where i can see backports of 12.10 that can be used on 12.0409:28
suorewith date working09:28
suorewhat i do bad?09:28
l057c0d3rwell you changed the time.. not the language09:29
wh1t3l10nKartagis: I can see the VPN option in "Network Connections." Is there any free service?09:29
k1lsuore: lc_time is just the time setting09:29
ronillonHello, any way to prevent opening USB stick in file manager after it is plugged in?09:30
suoreahh i think  LC_TIME is time as temporaly option09:30
l057c0d3rronillon.. not sure what it would be in unity..09:30
l057c0d3rbut09:30
ronillonthat is the thing with stupid unity thing09:30
dr_willisi recall some tweak setting for that.. but never really looked into it09:31
l057c0d3rlook into ubuntu tweak..09:31
dr_willisI thought you could select 'do nothing' when one got inserted09:31
l057c0d3rwill probably have to add a ppa for it09:31
k1lsuore: use : LC_ALL= ... for that use09:31
ronillondr_willis: maybe for the first time09:31
dr_willisfor ubuntu-tweak you can download its deb and it will add its own ppa09:31
l057c0d3rthey have options under tweaks / file manager for automatically open a folder on mount09:31
suoreokay :)09:31
suorethanks09:31
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ronilloni guess i will just manage untill i get rid of unity09:32
ronillonbut thanks09:32
dr_willisboo hoo.. mean old unity. ;P09:32
l057c0d3rronillon  open your file manager and check in the properties / settings of it.. might be something in there09:32
l057c0d3ror look around system settings.. but ubuntu tweak is what i used to change it09:32
ronillonchecked that, no options regarding media09:33
l057c0d3rubuntu tweak is easy to get...  and can easily fix that09:33
dr_willisif theres a fstab entry for the device. i think it gets ignored  via the automount stuff also09:33
l057c0d3rwait wait... i found another thing09:34
l057c0d3rdoes unity have the system settings ap09:34
l057c0d3rerr app09:34
ronillonthat would not help, i want it to be automounted, i just do not want to open it in nautilus, since im using doublecommander09:34
dr_willisall the settings are under the system--settings main window i thought09:34
l057c0d3ri run gnome-shell so guessing here09:34
l057c0d3ri found that in system-settings window..  if you click details09:35
l057c0d3rthere is a removable media category...09:35
l057c0d3rand it has the options you are asking about09:35
dr_willisi belive you can set the default mimetype for 'folder' to be double commander or whatever.. and it may auto open in that instead09:35
ronillonthx a lot l057c0.."09:35
l057c0d3rthat is in the detail's part of the system settings as well.. default applications09:36
alkuI'm unable to connect VISIONTEK usb modem to Lubuntu 12.10 on x86. please help09:36
ronillondr_willis: i gues that would be possible, but i do not want to open it in anything, just mount it09:36
dr_willisalku:  so what type of modem is it? dsl? cable? dialup?09:36
l057c0d3rronillon..  again.. if all the settings in details dont work....  you should check out ubuntu tweak... it has that exact option...09:37
ronillonl057c0d3r: thx a lot man09:37
l057c0d3rto mount only...09:37
alkudr_willis: thanks for supporting. as far as i know it is a dialup modem09:38
dr_willisso it plugs into an actual phone line from the wall? not a dsl or anything fancy?09:38
dr_willisThose are sort of... rare these days. ;P09:38
* kepler shuns dialup09:39
dr_willisi dont even know of any dialup ISPs left. ;)  AOL perhaps?09:39
kepleraol makes 500 million a year on their dialup, still!09:39
kepleri almost threw up when i heard that09:39
dr_willismakes me wonder whos using it...09:40
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dr_willisthen again.. im suprised AOL stll exists..09:40
dr_willisbbl09:41
keplerhere it is:  http://www.shellypalmer.com/2013/02/aol-dialup-500-million/   >> #ubuntu-offtopic09:41
alkudr_willis it is a 3g/hspds type modem. It works fine with windows09:41
alkudr_willis: sorry i was mistaken, it plugs via usb to my laptop directly09:42
kepleralku: open a terminal, do "lsusb"09:44
keplersee if it is detected at all09:44
l057c0d3rhector, let me know if you have any luck with your situation09:44
alkukepler: i've already done lsusb. please find result below09:44
alkuBus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0cf3:311f Atheros Communications, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 005: ID 2020:1005   Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bda:58de Realtek Semiconductor Corp.09:44
keplercan you put that on pastebin?09:44
keplersudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit09:45
alkukepler: pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589959/09:47
lantiziaLo, on gnome2/mate/lxde/etc... I find that it's enough to simply make a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ and it'll show in the menu - with unity this isn't the case... should I be issuing some kind of command to refresh the entries?09:48
alkukepler: output of wvdial and wvdialconf also pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589961/09:48
kepleralku: sorry, got nothing for you. just looks plain not supported :(09:50
alkukepler: thanks you, i tried sakis3g after reading on ubuntu support forum, it too didn't work. thank you anyway :)09:51
hectorstill upgrading, but I'm optimistic with samsung tools/backlight..09:52
kepleralku: not sure if this will help or not: http://goo.gl/7MMoY09:54
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drsourceexit09:55
kepleralku: maybe this too -- http://goo.gl/yQFkr09:55
alkukepler: thank you, will try.09:55
keplergood luck!09:56
ayaskantilibc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch - what to do ?09:56
EpyongunHey all I'm trying to get drivers on my laptop got the 700m series and every time I get them sorta working I get stuck at 640x res. Anyone have luck installing that series of drivers before09:57
ayaskanticannot install libc devel package .. It says "libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch"09:58
killerhow do  i install glib module python in ubuntu09:58
Extremekiller: try this: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev10:00
LiquidEssenceHello. I want to make a keyboard shrotcut in Xfce, that would launch a program inside a terminal. How can I do that? Normal shortcuts just launch standalone aplications.10:00
dr_willisLiquidEssence:  make it run somthing like 'xterm -e commandtorun'10:01
killerExtreme: thanx i will give it a try10:01
dr_willisLiquidEssence:  most terminal emulators have a simuuler option to the -e executething option10:01
LiquidEssencedr_willis: ok I'll try that. But if I would like to have a xce4-terminal that would have a title of the program in it (xfce4-terminal -T "VLC") and then run the application, would I need to write a script for that?10:02
killerExtreme: still the same error on module named glib10:02
ExtremeLiquidEssence: add "gnome-terminal -e Your-Terminal-Command" as a Keyboard Shortcut10:03
dr_willisLiquidEssence:  just tack on all the options.. or make a script.. it would be easier to launch10:03
Extremes/gnome-terminal/xfce-4terminal10:04
LiquidEssencedr_willis & Extreme: okay, thank you very much, I will try and see how it works. Thanks again!10:04
tehfoxhi there, I installed exim4 on Ubuntu 12.10 and configured it to send mail to a smarthost (dc_eximconfig_configtype='satellite' -- I basically copied configuration from my working config in my previous Ubuntu 11.04 installation). However, whenever I try to send a mail, I get following warning (in console when sending using mail <emailaddress>, or when starting the MTA: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/thefox/keyring-Ft4Yfu/pkcs11: Per10:04
tehfoxWhy does it try to access the gnome-keyring and how can I disable it? I found this forum question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097530 but ignoring the warning isn't quite what I'm looking for.10:05
LiquidEssencethe_willis: it worked, thans a lot - I wrote a script and just had to put all the options for the vlc program into brackets so that it ran in ncurses interface mode. thanks!10:06
Tom____hello @ all10:07
jatakkDoes anyone here use openbox?10:08
dr_willislots of people do jatakk10:08
Tom____can i install libusb.dev on ubuntu 12.10? i cannot find the package!10:09
dr_willis!find libusb10:09
ubottuFound: libusb++-0.1-4c2, libusb++-dev, libusb-0.1-4, libusb-1.0-0, libusb-1.0-0-dev, libusb-dev, libusbmuxd-dev, libusbmuxd2, libusbmuxd2-dbg, libusb-java (and 19 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libusb&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all10:09
dr_willis!info libusb-dev10:09
ubottulibusb-dev (source: libusb): userspace USB programming library development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:0.1.12-23 (quantal), package size 33 kB, installed size 233 kB10:09
jatakkAlright, well what is a good panel to use with openbox?10:10
dr_willissudo apt-get install libusb-dev10:10
dr_willis!dock10:10
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.10:10
jatakkNot really what I was after10:10
Tom____ah ok thanks, so i will now install ubuntu on my system, i am back later bye10:11
jobsonlly ubuntu10:11
jatakkI was thinking more like pypanel type things10:11
jatakkBut pypanel isn't developed anymore I don't think10:11
lantizia*What channel* do I use to talk about Unity (or rather 1 of likely a million problems with it)10:12
Extremelantizia: this one?10:12
jatakkIf it's just a rant about how horrible Unity is, then you might as well save it.10:13
lantiziaOK well with GNOME it was sufficient to simply place a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications and it'd show up in the menu... I've tested the same on precise and quantal with Unity and Unity has no idea of my entry10:13
dr_willisapt-cache search panel     may show some alternatives to panel10:13
lantiziaNo - I have a specific question... read it rather than guessing what kind of person I am10:13
dr_willislantizia:  that should also work with unity. It may be the menus havent gotten refreshed10:13
jatakkYeah that should work with Unity, works for me anyway.10:14
lantiziadr_willis, is there a way to force a refresh... I've duplicated this problem on many different machines both 12.04 and 12.1010:14
lantiziaDoes it matter that I had to mkdir ~/.local/share/applications first10:14
dr_willisdesktop files CAN contain an entry to only show in specific desktop enviroments.. like showonly in kde' or only in gnome10:14
lantiziaCould perhaps Unity not be watching that folder as it didn't exist upon first log in?10:14
dr_willistheres quite a few cases ive seen where unity and gnome3 have to get restarteed to see changes take effect10:15
lantiziawell even if I make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications - it still doesn't show up10:16
lantiziaah no - it has now... just a bit slow10:17
lantiziaso I guess it's just not working with ~/.local/share/applications unless that directory existed upon first login for it to watch10:17
jonya recommended notes software for Ubuntu 12.04 ?10:18
dr_williswasent tomboy getting rewritten? then i recall evernote10:18
dr_willismay not be in the ppa10:18
lantiziadr_willis, rewritten without the mono to gnote wasn't it?10:19
dr_willisi havent really paid attention to it since it lost the ubuntu one support. ;)10:20
dr_willisI was aparently one of the few people that kept notes synced via ubuntu one10:20
jonydr_willis, you are real person or a bot? :)10:20
dr_willisYes...., Yes i am....10:21
jonydr_willis, wich one? :P10:21
skyerjj10:21
skyertopic10:22
avinashhi10:25
dr_willismoo10:27
ronilloncan someone help me step-by-step with creating bootable live usb stick with ubuntu on it?10:30
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dr_willisdownload a tool from pendrivelinux site.. it can download the iso and put it on usb.10:32
dr_willisor download iso seperatly10:32
cluke[#debian] hey guys, anyone know of a lightweight way of zooming? I want to zoom in and out switching to different areas of my screen.10:33
dr_willisubuntu site has a tool also.10:33
ronilloni used unetbootin, it seemed ok, but the flash does not boot. i know its alright, as i was able to boot slax from it an hour ago10:33
dr_williscluke: compiz has that feature10:33
clukeim using lxde10:33
hectorI just solved my backlight problem on samsung n150+ netbook with this link, may anyone ever need;   http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29610:33
dr_willisive had ussues with unetbootin in the past.10:34
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Guest52903:)10:37
Tom____who can i see if the package is correct installed on my system, i search for libusb-0.1?10:37
dr_williscorrect for what?10:38
dr_willisronillon:  most people use yumi10:42
ronillondr_willis: i thought yumi is just for windows10:43
dr_willislook for linux tools then. i dont know what os yoi are using.10:44
ronillonim on ubuntu. and im trying to make an ubuntu usb flash. its much more dificult than doing it from windows, from what i can say10:45
dr_willisyou can dd the iso file straight to usb with linux if you want10:45
ronilloncan i? amazing10:45
dr_willisor use the startup-disk-creator tool10:45
doctorHey)10:45
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ronillondr_willis: i was trying to find it, but couldnt in the unity thing. i guess main problem is having ubuntu in other language than english10:47
ayaskantihelp, apt-get install libc6-dev is not working . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch10:48
deanrock0ronilon: sudo usb-creator-gtk if you cant find it using unity10:49
ayaskantibad package ............. Unpacking libc6-dev (from libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read on buffer copy for failed to write to pipe in copy10:50
noxomhi, how convert animated mng to animated gif??10:52
dr_willisnoxom: try ffmpeg or mencoder perhaps10:53
dr_willisperhaps the gimp animation plugins also10:54
noxomthanks, i will try now10:54
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antubsorry, how could I mount a exFAT on 12.04 (Gparted is looking for a filesystem but seems...)11:00
antubsystem seem no exfat suppot11:01
grizlo42I am struggling with my boot in ubuntu. the `udevadm control --exit` that occurs during initramfs take forever11:05
theprogrammerdoes anyone have idea where is the keybinding config file for a user in ubuntu 12.1011:06
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grizlo42this has been an issue for many months, but i finally got the time / dissatisfaction to deal with it11:06
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haythemjoin #squid11:26
mojtabaHi, I have an external hard drive and when I want to navigate through it, it is not responding.11:26
mojtabaDoes anybody know how can I check if the disk is ok?11:27
mojtabaOr how can I fix it, if there is any error.11:27
raddy_hello Everybody11:27
ikoniamojtaba: what file system is on the dis k?11:27
raddy_I am unable to burn ubuntu iso.11:27
mojtabaikonia: It is ext311:27
ikoniamojtaba: apart fom the external disk - how many other disks do you have on the system ?11:27
raddy_the burning software says that space is not enough in the cd.11:28
ikoniaraddy_: are you burning to a CD or DVD ?11:28
mojtabaikonia: just my internal hard disk11:28
helmut_hi11:28
raddy_the cd is 750 mb capacity11:28
ikoniamojtaba: ok, could you please connect the external disk and pastebin the output of the command "sudo fdisk -l "11:28
ikoniaraddy_: it doesn't fit on a CD any more11:28
mojtabaikonia: yes, please wait11:29
raddy_ikonia : i downloaded cd iso only11:29
ikoniamojtaba: no problem11:29
ikoniaraddy_: there is no CD iso11:29
raddy_ikonia : :((11:29
ikoniaraddy_: looking at the iso size of 12.04.2 of 693 meg it should fit11:29
ikoniabut also ubuntu announced it was stopping using CD's11:30
ikoniaraddy_: what version are you using ?11:31
mojtabaikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590135/11:31
ikoniamojtaba: thank you11:31
raddy_ikonia : it is not 693 mb here. look for 64bit. 12.1011:31
ikoniaraddy_: then its' 753mb11:31
ikoniaraddy_: which is why it doesn't fit on a cd that is 750mb11:31
ikoniamojtaba: ok - so I see one 500 GB disk, one SDC card and one external 1GB disk, correct ?11:32
mojtabaikonia: It is 1 TB11:32
ikoniasorry, 1TB11:32
ikonianot GB11:32
mojtabaikonia: yes11:32
ikoniamojtaba: ok - so can you try to mount /dev/sdb1 please.11:33
raddy_ikonia : so, i should burn it in dvd ?11:33
SAngeliI need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu. if I install postfix, to which of the listing woudl apply? SMTP or sendmail?11:33
mojtabaikonia: I have mounted it and can access it via /media/mojtaba/freedom11:33
mojtabaikonia: It mounted automatically, but when I run ls, it just hangs.11:34
mojtabaI mean did not respond.11:34
mojtabaikonia: Is there any utility to check if the hard drive is ok or not?11:36
ikoniamojtaba: when it automounts can you a.) check it's status with mount before doing anything to it, b.) try to manipulate it  (say unmount it) before doing anything11:36
ikoniamojtaba: it sounds like it's the auto mounter, nothing to do with the hard disk11:36
ikoniamojtaba: you can unmount it and run fsck /dev/sdb1 against it11:36
mojtabaikonia: could you please let me how can I do that? I am pretty new to linux. :-P11:36
ikonia(sudo)11:36
raddy_ikonia : is it really a dvd iso?11:36
ikoniaraddy_: your CD is 750mb.....the image is 753mb.,...11:36
mojtabaikonia: should I run umount /dev/sdb1 ?11:37
ikoniamojtaba: %10011:37
ikoniamojtaba: never fsck a mounted disk11:37
ikoniamojtaba: umount /your /file/system11:38
SAngeliphp, sendmail, SMTP. To wich one would postfix comply?11:38
ikoniaSAngeli: what ?11:38
SAngeliikonia, I need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu. if I install postfix, to which of the listing woudl apply? SMTP or sendmail?11:39
mojtabaikonia: should I run fsck with sudo priviledge?11:39
ikoniaSAngeli: postfix is an MTA (so from your point of view, it's an SMTP)11:39
ikoniamojtaba: yes11:39
raddy_ikonia : the image actually 763 mb, is it burnable in dvd ?11:39
SAngeliikonia, I have to install a MTA but if I have only these three choices from Joomla Admin what do I have to do?11:39
ikoniaraddy_: yes11:39
ikoniaSAngeli: postfix is a standard mta on ubuntu11:40
mojtabaikonia: the output is: fsck from util-linux 2.20.111:40
mojtabae2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)11:40
mojtabafreedom contains a file system with errors, check forced.11:40
mojtabaPass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes11:40
ikoniamojtaba: let it run11:40
SAngeliikonia, I know this. let me ask to joomla channel.11:40
mojtabaikonia: will it fix the hard drive automatically? or should I do something after that?11:40
ikoniamojtaba: it should try to resolve any file system problems11:41
ikoniamojtaba: it may prompt you for a "y/n" response on occasion11:41
mojtabaikonia: will I miss any file?11:42
gp5stsorry, i know this isn't ubuntu specific, but I wasn't sure where else to ask. Is there a way to provide more than a single certificate chain during SSL negotiation?11:42
ikoniaSAngeli: I don't understand what you are asking11:42
ikoniaSAngeli: postfix is an MTA - so from your question it is an SMTP interface11:42
SAngeliikonia, one sec I will explain better11:42
ikoniamojtaba: don't know yet11:42
ikoniagp5st: depends what application you are using, try #openssl11:42
mojtabaikonia: Do you know how long does it take time?11:42
ikoniamojtaba: 1TB file system - good few minutes, 10 - 15 - 20 minutes, hard to tell11:43
gp5sti'll give it a shot ikonia, thanks11:43
ikoniamojtaba: depends on the problem, size of the disk, speed of the disk etc11:43
mojtabaikonia: I really thank you for your help.11:43
ikoniamojtaba: it's fine, that's what we are here for11:43
ikoniaI need to step out for a short while11:43
SAngeliikonia, I need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu but I do not know if I can use it or not. Here is a screenshot of what I talk about: http://i.imgur.com/l7pqG2X.png11:48
SAngeliikonia, I need to understand if eventually I would choose postfix (wich i wish to) if I will be unable later on to run my CMS applications. The system would need to be configured as smart host as my server is at home and this is only for testin and learning11:50
SAngeliikonia, not for smap or similar usage as I will be using my own ISP provider for the SMTP validation11:50
mojtabaikonia: I got this: Error reading block 22216707 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>?11:51
mojtabawhat should I do?11:52
mojtabaikonia: Please help11:53
dr_willisyou got disk errors..11:56
mojtabadr_willis:11:57
mojtabayes11:57
dr_willisHope theres nothing critical wrong. hit Y and go on..11:57
mojtabadr_willis: Thanks.11:57
mojtabadr_willis: will I miss something?11:57
dr_willisreally you can only go on.. or stop.. :) then you are back at square one.11:57
dr_willisits fscking the disk and corecting errors..11:58
mojtabadr_willis: I see.11:58
mojtabadr_willis: then there is no way to find out what will happen, till it ends.11:59
dr_willisnot that i know of.11:59
dr_willisany lost/found files will go into /lost+found11:59
mojtabadr_willis: in that drive?11:59
dr_williswhatever fs you are checking11:59
mojtabadr_willis: thanks12:00
SAngeliikonia, did I properly explain now my issue?12:01
keithjasperhi all… not so much a ubuntu question, but I have multiple DNS servers that I would like to get stats for using BIND, however I wish to join the data so there is ONE graph (i.e. a total DNS queries across my network)12:01
aiFrantz*testing the irc client* hi ~~12:06
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JuJuBeeI have a dual monitor setup and when I move a window to my secondary monitor and drag the titlebar to the top of the screen to go to full screen, it jumps back to my primary monitor in full screen.12:12
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dr_williswhatt video chipset?12:16
dr_willistried just double clicking the titlebar?12:16
MorphixNWhello everyone12:16
MorphixNWI am trying to shrink/re-scale the visible display area of my desktop.... so I end up with a smaller display area and a black border around all four sides of the screen12:17
MorphixNWI am runing Zorin 5.212:17
Sparky-UKdoes anyone know why (my) snmpd does not increment result for NIC's (particularly eth0) on ubuntu 12.04, counters update if i restart the service12:18
dr_willisbest to check in the Zorin support Channels MorphixNW12:18
MorphixNWcan you direct me too one please dr_willis12:19
dr_willis!alis12:19
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*12:19
dr_willisor check the zorin homepage12:19
MorphixNW!alis12:19
cfhowlettMorphixNW, greetings12:21
JuJuBeedr_willis: double clicking the title bar on the primary will not make it full screen on secondary.  Video Card is nvidia 980012:24
dr_willisJuJuBee:  drag it to the secondary and double click12:24
dr_willisusing twinview on my nividia card here. and thats how i do it12:24
JuJuBeeYes, that does work, but it works as expected with kde just not unity.12:24
dr_willisi just drug a window to the top of my 2nd monitor and compiuz  filled the whole screen  for me12:25
dr_willis12.10 here.12:25
DikkieBhello everyone I have a question. I recently got a cheap Toshiba satellite laptop. I turned Secure boot off, but when I put in a USB with Lubuntu and a DVD of it in at seperate times, instead of showing the usual Lubuntu menu, it went to the GRUB loader of it. When I selected "try ubuntu" the screen went black, and nothing happened. I probably waiting about 20 to 30 minutes each time. On one occasion I selected "check disc for defects" and it did the12:26
DikkieB exact same thing. Is there anyway to fix this, or will I have to install Lubuntu from windows?12:26
JuJuBeedr_willis: that does not work here... Wait... if the original window is smaller than the resolution of the secondary, it does work, but if it is larger, it goes full screen on primary12:26
ivotklDikkieB, you should try nomodeset or failsafe graphics mode.12:27
JuJuBeedr_willis: primary is 1920x1280 and secondary is 1280x102412:27
dr_willisive noticed it seems to depens on  what % of the window is on each monitor12:27
ivotklBRB12:27
dr_willisif most of it is on monitor 1 - it goes to monitor 112:27
DikkieBivotkl: alright, I'll see if i can't find those settings12:27
JuJuBeedr_willis: that seems to be the case here.  Too bad, works great with kde no matter which monitor I drag it to.12:28
dr_willisi never really have an issue with it.. never really pay much attention to it. ;)12:28
JuJuBeedr_willis: do you know how to have 2 different launcher bars in unity or if it is possible and even 2 different desktop backgrounds...12:28
dr_willisi dont use kde either.12:28
dr_willisuse a big WIDE wallpaper stitched from 2 smaller ones. ;P12:28
dr_willisyou dont have 2 differnt launchers.  if you want that you could use some docks i guess12:29
DikkieBivotkl: Also Im really not surprised, my laptop has an ATI card...12:29
JuJuBeedr_willis: I am having issues with kde  lately with crash notifications since upgrade to 12.1012:29
ivotklDikkieB: If boot menu is the same as in Ubuntu, you should be able to press F6 and the command line with the booting sequence would appear.12:29
ivotklDikkieB, at the end you should type nomodeset12:29
ivotkland then enter if that's the one you need to press for executing the command.12:29
MiltonWaynehey12:30
DikkieBivotkl: Thankyou! I wasn't quite sure since it went to GRUB instead... let me go do that12:30
MiltonWaynecan someone explain why i cant install an 64bit system from 32bit livecd?12:30
cfhowlettMiltonWayne,  no 64 bit livecd?   no 64 bit install12:31
JuJuBeedr_willis: also, when using kde, if I lock my screen at night when I go home, the next day when I come back and log in, the login box image stays on my screen even though I am logged in and working fine.  seems  like a ghost image and cannot click anything on it.12:31
MiltonWaynecfhowlett, yeah but why12:31
cfhowlettMiltonWayne, um, because you don't have the correct ISO!  If you want 64 bit, GET 64 bit!12:32
Squarepyeasy cfhowlett12:34
cfhowlettSquarepy, meant to give the link to 64, so that came out more snippy than intended.  apologies to miltonwayne and everyone ...12:34
t0th_-hi12:35
cfhowlettt0h, greetings12:35
shutter_hi12:35
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t0th_-when start my gdm, is stop in the first screen of X , can help me?12:36
DikkieBivotkl: Im sorry, I read you wrong. No, it doesn't boot to any menu similar to ubuntu, it just goes to grub and has the typical install options for ubuntu with no extra settings other than e to edit (which im guessing I'll have to do somehow) and c for command line, and nomodeset isn't a command grub recognizes.12:36
shutter_welcome to ubuntu12:36
dr_willist0th_-:  clarify what you mean12:39
dr_willisnomodeset is NOT a command.. its an option you add to the kernel line. After you hit 'e' to edit12:40
dr_willise)dit ->  change the line to look like  'quiet nomodeset splash'12:40
ivotklDikkieB: Do you have system installed already? If so, press e, then on line that says --quietsplash type nomodeset.12:40
dr_willisbbl12:40
ivotklThat's it. Thanks dr_willis for the reminder. =)12:41
Ice_StrikeI am new to Ubunto and where is the taskbar to switch windows?12:41
Ice_StrikeSo confusing12:41
Ice_StrikeUbuntu*12:41
ivotklIce_Strike, it should be on the bottom...12:41
DikkieBdr_willis: ivotkl: Ah, sorry about that... also no its not already installed. Let me try that now12:41
Ice_StrikeI am sure I have seen old Ubunto that taskbar appear at the bottom like on Windows.12:42
IzzoDizzoIce_Strike, try super+w12:42
IzzoDizzo(windows keys)12:42
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JuJuBeeIce_Strike: Uniity does not have a task bar like windows.12:45
autoditachi, since upgrading to 13.04 (i know, it's in development), the layer2 status of the nic in my Thinkpad T500 (driver: e1000) doesn't get detected anymore and i can't setup any ethernet connection. ethtool states "unknown device" when i query eth012:45
ivotklOhhhhhhhhh, he's using unity...12:45
JuJuBeeivotkl: I am assuming since he seems to be just starting out12:45
autoditacthe docking station works, though and both the card and the switch show that link layer is uo12:45
ivotklI have classic gnome installed, forgot about it. My mystake.12:45
Ice_StrikeJuJuBee So I guess Ubunu have changed since then? So how do you access multiple windows12:45
autoditacs/uo/up12:45
ivotklJuJuBee: You're right.12:46
cfhowlettautoditac, ask in #ubuntu+112:46
autoditaccfhowlett, thanks12:46
JuJuBeeIce_Strike: what do you mean access multiple windows?  Alt-Tab is an application switcher or {windowskey}+W will tile your apps so you can switch12:46
Ice_StrikeJuJuBee I meant I want to see all running application like on the taskbar without pressing Alt-Tab12:47
ivotklIce_Strike: you should see them on Unity bar on the bottom of it.12:48
JuJuBeeIce_Strike: the launcher bar shows which apps are open with a little triangle next to it.  Also, http://askubuntu.com/questions/77216/how-to-have-the-taskbar-with-unity-at-the-same-time12:48
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Ice_StrikeOk thanks12:49
JuJuBeeIce_Strike:  if you wanted the windows like task bar, you could install kubuntun-desktop and use kde. It still has that feature.12:49
Ice_Strikeok cool12:49
ivotklor gnome classic.12:49
IzzoDizzoor use a dock12:49
Ice_Strikewhat most people use12:49
ivotkldock?12:49
rjx1what is this appication/ocete-stream12:49
IzzoDizzoyeah, like docky12:50
ivotklrjx1: I've never heard of it, sorry.12:50
JuJuBeeIce_Strike: most people use what they prefer.  Try all options and use what you like.12:50
JuJuBeedocky unity12:50
JuJuBee?what is it..12:50
selena2013whats up12:50
ivotklOhhhhhhhhhhh.12:50
selena2013yea you can use avant , cairo  , there dozens of docks12:51
Ice_Strikehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/37722/hard-to-find-one-window-among-many12:51
Ice_Strikegood question12:51
rjx1am installing in software in tarball in using root they not creat a shortcut12:52
Ice_StrikeUnity made hard to multi-task12:52
IzzoDizzoyou just have to get used to it12:52
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rjx1yes i have12:53
selena2013why is hard to multi task in unity ice strike ? is easy12:53
N1ck1hi12:54
dan_lbhey12:55
N1ck1I have a linux file sharing server, running samba. So i want to know if the system saves the deleted files somewhere, like Trash (remember if i delet the file from windows it will not send it to Trash ? any suggestion on how to get back the accidentaly deleted file ?12:57
icerootN1ck1: with your backup12:57
r3dlol12:57
icerootN1ck1: samba is not using a trash12:57
r3dbackup12:58
r3dIt's gone.12:58
N1ck1there is no way to get the file back ?12:58
icerootN1ck1: with your backup as i said12:58
icerootN1ck1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64296/how-do-i-enable-trash-functionality-on-samba-shares12:58
r3dThe only way to retrieve would be to analyse the file system which hosted the file12:58
icerootN1ck1: for the future you can enable a trash on samba12:58
cfhowlettN1ck1, ask in #ubuntu-server ...12:58
cfhowlett!recovery|n1ck112:59
ubottun1ck1: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"12:59
iceroot!backup | N1ck112:59
ubottuN1ck1: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:59
cfhowlettN1ck1, oops.  sorry.  thought that factoid might help but no ...12:59
r3dlol - there are many ways to fix your car following you crashing it, but there are no ways to UNcrash your car13:00
icerootr3d: of course there are ways to recover lost files, backup, enabled trash, snapshots13:01
icerootr3d: but they have to be enabled before you delete them13:01
r3dI'm sorry, I don't mean to be an ass - but no, if you haven't enabled some kind of back-up for deleted files via SMB it's gone - or you can analyse the filesystem and see if there's anything to recover13:01
icerootr3d: things we already said13:01
r3diceroot -> agreeing.13:01
r3dAlso, no-one enables any kind of backup on SMB because deletion then means copying the file elsewhere, so if you delete 12GB of stuff, you have to COPY 12GB of stuff for it to "delete"13:03
Ahri921test13:04
setratested --- ok13:04
icerootr3d: you have to use a normal backup-solution, doesnt matter if samba, apache, nfs, mysql or something else will use the data13:04
Ahri921sentra: thanks13:05
setraI'm looking for a Server side terminal automation tool, which send keystrokes from bash script to called application.13:05
setraI tried already xdotool, but it needes a Desktop session, but on the server I don't have one13:06
bubullepopolala13:06
Anoniman86I need help with Ati Radeon 5670 card on Ubuntu 12.1013:13
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r3dAnoniman86: How old is a Radeon 5670?13:16
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r3dLike > 5 years?13:16
r3d(I'm asking, not saying)13:16
Anoniman86HD 5670, i bought two years ago13:16
r3dOkay, so it's pretty new - that's a good start. What's the problem?13:17
mJaykt13:17
Anoniman86I have big lag issues in steam games with 13.1 and the 13.2 beta drivers. When i restart system, games works fine, a but when i exit the game and launch again, fps is low13:18
icerootAnoniman86: "beta"13:19
icerootAnoniman86: or are the 13.1 the stable ones?13:19
r3dThat's a steam issue13:19
r3dOr a driver issue, okay13:19
Anoniman86yes, i uses 13.1, same issue13:19
Anoniman86:(((13:19
r3dBut either way - it's out of your hands13:19
Anoniman86used*13:20
icerootAnoniman86: did you check the system-load after you closed steam?13:20
icerootAnoniman86: is it higher then without starting steam first?13:20
r3dTry a different display manager if you're feeling brave13:20
icerootr3d: that is not useful13:20
Anoniman86yes, is the same after reboot13:20
r3dI think it is helpful.13:20
icerootAnoniman86: to the first run of steam is always fine13:21
Anoniman86yes, yes!!!!13:21
r3dI'm not saying try a different driver, I'm saying try Unity 2D and see if the problem still occurs, or install gnome-shell and see if the problem still occurs13:21
Anoniman86same problem is on 12.04 lts and 12.1013:22
r3dIt's somewhere in the display driver stack, using a different display manager might help to identify it. Or not.13:22
Anoniman86I think that Nvidia is better for linux13:23
r3dNvidia works a lot better than ATI/AMD on Linux in my experience - so I go with Nvidia cards.13:23
mJayktest13:24
r3dBut saying that, I run LMDE with a  liquorix kernel and I get my drivers through smxi13:24
Anoniman86Yes, but it is very hard to install the latest nvidia driver whois downloaded from nvidia site manualy13:25
r3dIf any of you have only used Ubuntu and are wondering about LMDE and smxi - the quick explanation is that Debian is the distro that Ubuntu uses as a base, and LMDE is just an offshoot of Debian with some different tweaks. And as that doesn't keep compatibility with Ubuntu, you tend to use a lovely suite of scripts to install drivers called smxi.13:30
r3dLinux knowledgable folk: I'd be happy for corrections here if you're not convinced by the phrasing.13:30
ivotklQuick question... Is it stable for me to install Ubuntu Studio's audio programs into an Ubuntu?13:32
r3dy13:32
ivotklQuick question... Is it stable for me to install Ubuntu Studio's audio programs into an Ubuntu?13:32
ivotklSorry, double typying. =P13:32
r3dNo worries - yes, they are entirely compatible.13:33
Piciivotkl: You might have some weirdness with jack, but the folks in #ubuntustudio should be able to help you out with that if you do see issues.13:34
cfhowlettivotkl, stable?  won't break anything if that's what youmean ...13:34
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r3divotkl: Were you planning on changing your primary audio driver away from pulseaudio?13:36
root___quit13:40
N1ck1iceroot is it possible to disable the delete function on samba, so the users cannot delete them ?13:48
unbornhi all.. does anyone have problems same as me with virtualbox on 12.04 lts 64bit or I am doing something wrong?13:48
ivotklPici, cfhowlett and r3d: Thank you for your responses. =)13:49
ivotklr3d: not really, but if that's what it takes... I'm in. =P13:49
cfhowlettivotkl, best of luck.13:49
cfhowlettunborn, details?   VB runs fine for me on 64 bit ...13:50
unborncfhowlett, Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-25-generic (x86_64)13:50
unbornConsult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.12/build/make.log for more information.13:50
BluesKajHiyas all13:50
unborncfhowlett, dkms...it just generate report to ubuntu error msg and thats all (durring the installation)13:51
cfhowlettunborn, I'm guessing your attempting to get the guest additions up and running?  what error mssg?13:52
unborncfhowlett, uhm nope.. ive install virtualbox on fresh reinstall heh with iso additions on.. the error msg ive passed earlier to you..13:53
unbornwhen i run virtualbox it gives me this13:54
unbornKernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) cfhowlett13:54
ktosHello13:54
ktostell me please is it possible to have one server machine and connect other machines over ethernet to get the same image on the all screens?13:55
ktosusing x.org13:55
cfhowlettunborn, OK ... never had to problem solve this issue with VB so my experience is limited but ... I'd suggest you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade  so you'll have all the latest packages.  You ARE at 12.4.2, right?  Then re-install VB.13:56
AbhiKdoes anyone know where can i find the image-file of cube-desktop top and bottom parts?13:57
mJayk123123123/win 413:57
unborncfhowlett, dist-update will keep lts on desktop right? it will update only sw packages right?13:58
cfhowlettunborn, yes.  LTS will remain in place (distro-release would bring it to 12.10)13:58
unbornok.. so lets do it than :)13:59
unborngod have to reboot.. be right back14:00
mJaykrgr dgr14:00
moondoggyHi there.  Can someone help me with a flash plugin problem?14:03
moondoggyHi, nuclearbob , are you a physicist?14:04
icerootN1ck1: read-only14:04
icerootN1ck1: but that means you can not edit the file too14:04
icerootubottu: you are talking about apt-get dist-upgrade?14:05
ubottuiceroot: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:05
nuclearbobmoondoggy: I have a physics degree, but I don't feel like that makes me a physicist since I don't do a lot of physics at this point.  I'd call myself a programmer, unless I get eaten by a bear.  If I get eaten by a bear, I'll be a hiker, because no news report  is ever going to say "a programmer was eaten by a bear in the woods yesterday"14:05
moondoggyI like the way you think, nuclearbob .14:05
unborncfhowlett, well done.. not solution for me and what is very bad touchpad is not working anymore.. bah14:06
moondoggySince no one else has taken my support ticket :) do you have any thoughts about getting flashplayer working on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, nuclearbob ?14:06
nuclearbobmoondoggy: flashplayer is working on my installs of 12.04 64 bit, but I don't know that that helps you a lot, unfortunately.  What packages did you install for it?14:07
moondoggyIt worked fine, but then I changed from a Lenovo machine to a Mac (both with 64 bit 12.04) and now I can't get flash working.14:07
[Saint]Working here, too.14:07
[Saint]I suspect "installing it" probably helps.14:07
[Saint];)14:07
decci I need to compare hadoop with HDFS and Hadoop with Lustre setup. I have 1 MDS , 2 OSS/OST and 1 Lustre Client as of now. I deployed hadoop over lustre. Now to compare it with Hadoop and HDFS equally, how many datanodes and namenode do I need?14:08
unborncfhowlett, nevermind :) im plugging in debian dvd so no more issues i guess :) thank you very much for your help.14:08
unborncya14:08
moondoggyHmm.  Well, I got the message "you need additional plugins...", so I tried to install the flash plugin from the adobe page.14:08
moondoggyDoesn't work.14:08
moondoggyHere's where I am:  http://i.imgur.com/msS0JTO.png14:08
iceroot!details | moondoggy14:09
ubottumoondoggy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:09
icerootmoondoggy: that is the wrong way14:09
napnapHi all, I try to use grub2tc (https://github.com/attila-lendvai/grub2tc/blob/master/README.md) to boot my truecrypted win partition from grub2. But when I launch it with grub item menu I take an error "couldn't open file".  My grub entry is : "insmod multiboot  multiboot /boot/tcloader" and I have tcloader in my /boot partition. What is wrong ?14:09
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icerootmoondoggy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer14:10
icerootmoondoggy: please only install software from the repos and not from websites14:10
moondoggyOh.  I didn't try it with apt-get.14:10
moondoggyYeah, I hate Adobe anyway.14:10
[Saint]apt-get install flashplugin-installer14:10
AbhiKdoes anyone know where can i find the image-file of cube-desktop top and bottom parts?14:11
moondoggyThanks, iceroot  [Saint] !14:12
moondoggyThat was easy!14:12
* [Saint] just uses Chrome.14:13
[Saint]FLash plugins can go g*ck themselves. :)14:13
[Saint]errrr, the other, similar, non-typo'd four letter word.14:13
ikonia[Saint]: then don't use the word if you have to star it out please.14:14
ikonia[Saint]: we all know what it means14:14
[Saint]That makes so little sense it's hard to accept it as serious.14:15
[Saint]I know what you mean, but, it is largely nonsensical.14:15
[Saint]...anyhoo.14:15
nick___hi I install elementary OS in my computer with windows 8...I can't see it when I boot my comp14:19
nick___I tried rebuilding grub.cfg14:19
gp5stexit14:19
nick___didn't work14:19
icerootN1ck1: and what is "elementary os"?14:20
icerootnick___: ^14:20
nick___Elemntary os is based on ubuntu 12,0414:21
nick___I'm surprised you guys don't know about it14:21
auronandacenick___: its not supported here14:21
icerootnick___: its offtopic here, please use there channel14:22
nick___okay. thanks14:22
ymfhey.14:22
ymfi wonder how can i tweak the kernel in ubuntu.14:22
auronandaceymf: why do you need to?14:22
fhloves»¹ÓÐÈ˶àµãµÄƵµÀÂð?14:23
ymfauronandace: because when i was trying to run sshuttle, something occured to me: iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)14:24
memandfhloves: ?14:24
JodaZso it sounds like ubuntu lts give one longer support than the average debian release now, is that true ?14:24
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ymfauronandace: "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.0-26-generic/modulles.dep: No such file or directory"14:25
auronandaceJodaZ: one longer?14:25
auronandaceymf: it should be modules14:25
icerootJodaZ: ubuntu lts is supported for 5 years, debian 2-3 years14:25
auronandaceymf: notice the one l14:25
memandauronandace: I think JodaZ meant one as in individuals14:26
memand:)14:26
ymfauronandace: yeah..i mean how can i add the module?14:26
auronandace!modules | ymf14:26
ubottuymf: To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist14:26
ymfauronandace: in ubuntu, kernels are already built and shipped in binary version, aren't they?14:27
auronandaceymf: of course14:27
memandfhloves: Can we help you?14:27
ymfauronandace: what is the "/msg ubottu kernel"?14:28
memandGuess not14:28
auronandace!kernel | ymf14:28
ubottuymf: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)14:28
ymfauronandace: i'm new here. "!xxx | ymf" what's that?14:29
auronandace!bot | ymf14:29
ubottuymf: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots14:29
ymfauronandace: oh. got it.14:30
Parthihi folks!14:30
Parthii'm new to Ubuntu14:30
memandParthi: Hi14:30
ymfauronandace: thanks :)14:30
auronandaceymf: no worries14:30
ParthiI'm somehow interested in installing it on my windows 8 system14:30
Parthiis there any issue in doing so?14:31
auronandace!uefi | Parthi14:31
ubottuParthi: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI14:31
memandParthi: Do you wan't it with dual boot?14:31
memand*want14:31
Parthiyes14:31
decciAny service provider which provides KVM so that I can remotely mount ISO and installOS of my chioce14:31
Parthibut on ubuntu site i see something called install alongside windows14:31
limbernie!ubuntu14:32
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com14:32
Parthimemand: not getting a right direction14:32
memandParthi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208842514:32
b0otwhy would sudo find ./* -iname autoSwitch not show any results, when I can do an ls in my current directory and see autoSwitch.sh and autoSwitch2.sh?14:32
mJaykb0ot: sudo find au* ?14:33
Parthimemand: Can i install ubuntu from the windows installer which ubuntu site is offering? Is there any risk in it? I mean without the dual boot, installing alongside windows 814:34
ikoniab0ot: find /14:34
jribb0ot: because "autoSwitch" would not match "autoSwitch.sh"14:34
ikoniab0ot: not find ./*14:34
ikoniab0ot: find . for cwd, find / for root14:34
kenlikhi! i'm testing 12.10 Secure-Remix using USB Live but the network wired doesn't work. I appears with UNCLAIMED status. If i decided to install instead of trying ubuntu this problem will remain?14:35
ikoniasecure remix ???14:35
ikoniais that even an official ubuntu release ?14:35
auronandacekenlik: we don't support remixes here14:35
mJaykt14:36
b0otit doesn't allow me to do au* with sudo find . -iname au*14:36
ymfauronandace: well. there's not a package called nat-source..14:36
enimy pc froze and i couldn't do anything im using xubuntu 12.04 64bit on thinkpad t430s and xfce as a desktop manager. where can i find some logs that might tell me what happened?14:36
ikoniab0ot: what do you want to look for14:36
ikoniab0ot: just explain what you want to do14:36
kenlikikonia, it was suggest to download in official ubuntu home page as my notebook has windows 8 installed with UEFI enabled.14:37
b0otI'm just trying to understand find a bit better.... how do I search for something in my current directory and below for a case insensitive match of anything starting with autoswitch14:37
ikoniakenlik: where was it suggested ?14:37
ikoniab0ot: something like "find . -iname '*autoswitch* -print14:38
kenlikikonia,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI please see step 114:39
Juanito_Fulenciahowdy14:39
kenlikikonia, "Ubuntu-Secure-Remix 64bit or ..."14:39
ikoniakenlik: that's still not an official spin14:39
ikoniakenlik: basically there is no real solid solution at the moment for secure boot from what I read14:40
ikoniaso everyone is trying to work a way through it14:40
Juanito_FulenciaI added a modeline to get my second monitor supported, and it worked. But the image is just a little to wide so it goes outside the monitor to the left. How do i i solve this?14:40
kenlikikonia, so what you suggest to do so?14:42
b0otI guess I'm confused why: "sudo find . -iname au* -print" is invalid and i get find: paths must precede expression autoSwitch.sh but "sudo find . -iname autositch* -print" works fine14:42
samjackI think is a bug in ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.jigdo14:42
samjackjigdo-lite not found 42 files14:42
ikoniakenlik: I don't have a solid suggestion for secure boot at this time14:43
b0otsecond one had autoswitch spelled correctly14:43
samjack eg: /pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-declarative_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb14:43
samjackis not in the pool14:43
samjacki dont know how to report that bug14:44
rndbituh uh i want to build wine on 12.10 but according to googling i need ia32-libs-dev which seems to be missing. (error X 32-bit development files not found.). anyone know what i need to build wine?14:44
b0otb0ot, here is what I mean: paste2.org/3058855 why does the more specific search work find, but the less specific search fail?14:45
b0othttp://paste2.org/3058855 (added http)14:46
b0otall sorts of fail today: http://paste2.org/p/305885514:46
b0otforgot /p/14:46
Absolute0.xprofile isn't sourced when I log into awesome wm through lightdm.14:48
samjackany ideas how to file that bug?14:48
Absolute0I tried linking to it from ~/.xsession--no help14:48
hrolfHi #ubuntu, I'm constantly having issues with my touchpad (the hardware itself is fine because it works without any problems in Windows)14:50
hrolfbut when I use Ubuntu, after a while14:50
hrolfit keeps stucking14:50
Absolute0hrolf: try installing the synaptics drivers14:50
decciHi Guys, I am in search of service provider which can provide me with remote KVM so that I can install Parallels Cloud Server remotely14:50
hrolfAbsolute0: from where and how?14:51
Absolute0hrolf: ligthdm doesn't run ~/.xprofile or ~/.xsession when loading from the awesome.desktop session14:51
Absolute0s/run/source14:51
hrolfAbsolute0: what?14:52
Absolute0oh nevermind14:52
Absolute0hrolf: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics14:53
kenlikikonia, sorry ... i'm understanding about secure boot but it results with my networking problem? if i download ubuntu 12.10 official spin and trying it the wired net will be solved?14:53
hrolfAbsolute0: It says it is already the latest version14:53
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bulletxthi, I'm having an issue. df -h states that my / is 100% full on about  220GB of hard disk.   I'm unable to understand where are the files thare occupying the hard disk. If i do du -sh / the total is less than 120GB........ thanks for the help14:54
usr13bulletxt: Show us.14:55
usr13bulletxt: df14:56
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bulletxtusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590553/14:56
selena2013question by mistake when i installed ubuntu 12.10 i rezise the hard drive too small14:57
usr13bulletxt: And that is the output of what command?14:57
selena2013can i resize it for more storage ?14:57
bulletxtusr13: df14:57
bulletxtusr13: as root user14:57
usr13bulletxt: So what is /dev/md014:59
usr13?14:59
bulletxtusr13: it's /14:59
unixpabloTestando.15:00
selena2013Does Justin Biever use pink Terminal ?15:00
usr13I realize that the mount point is / but what type of device is it?15:00
bulletxtusr13: mdadm raid115:00
usr13sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit15:01
usr13bulletxt: show us15:01
ymfnow i'm clear about the problem.15:01
ymfauronandace: i need to add `ip_tables` module.15:02
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bulletxtusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590567/15:02
usr13bulletxt: It appears that you have lots of space used up, but by what... we have no way of knowing, (we don't know what you've done).  BTW, what is your native language?15:04
usr13 ymf   To what ______________?15:07
usr13ymf: What is your problem?15:07
bulletxtusr13: I have done nothing!15:08
bulletxtusr13: the OS is italian15:08
usr13You might want to join #ubuntu-it15:10
bulletxtusr13: well, what does the language got to do with my problem?!15:11
usr13bulletxt: But, ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>15:11
usr13du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>15:11
auronandace!iptables | ymf15:12
ubottuymf: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.15:12
usr13bulletxt: Language has nothing to do with your problem, the problem is mine, not yours, (I am monolingural :)15:13
usr13ymf If you have a problem that you are trying to solve,  tell us what the problem is and maybe we can give you some specific advise.15:15
linuxfreakerHi15:17
linuxfreakerI have installed fog server on one of Ubuntu 12.04.1.15:18
linuxfreakerI have Windows Xp installed on new machine. there I am trying to open http://<ip>/fog/client its not reaching15:18
linuxfreakerDo I need fog client package to be installed15:18
rudivsthe colour profile of Image Viewer seems to be stuffed (see http://picpaste.com/image_viewer_colour_profile-UCL0mP1V.png). any idea what could be wrong? some colours look fine, but skin tones are all purple. you can see behind the picture that thumbnails for example work fine. Gimp also fine15:19
m4rtinsDoes anybody know why my wifi-connection is much slower in Ubuntu 12.10 than in Mac OSX? i'm running a dual boot setup on a macbook air 2013.15:20
streulmaif you've modified your etc network interfaces15:23
streulmawhat's the best way to confirm ?15:23
streulmashutdown -r now ? or reboot ? or etc init.d networking restart or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth015:24
JuJuBeeHow do I allow non root users to set a printer using cups?15:26
ezhilvananHi, I installed gnome 2.3 on ubuntu 12.10.  i'm getting gnome login screen Now. How can i switch back to ubuntu / unity login screen again?15:27
IzzoDizzoezhilvanan : sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm15:27
IzzoDizzoand choose lightdm15:28
auronandaceezhilvanan: gnome2 is no longer supported15:28
infinushello all15:28
ezhilvananthanks for your reply.. Are you sure? it won;t delete any of my datas?15:30
infinusI'm having some problems with permissions, here is a screenshot, perhaps you could help? http://imageshack.us/f/29/screenshot20130306at110.png/15:32
KolakCCinfinus: run that application with gksudo?15:33
infinusKolakCC: do you happen to know the command to run disk utility from the command line?15:34
KolakCCI think it's gnome-disk-utility15:34
infinussudo: gnome-disk-utility: command not found15:35
KolakCCnope, it's gnome-disks, sorry.15:35
infinusk lemme try15:35
togetherszia15:36
togethersztok15:36
infinusgksudo appears in the launcher to the left flashes a few times then disappears15:36
infinusdisk utility never comes up15:36
infinusis there a way to revert all system files to default permissions?15:36
togetherkéne egy kis help egy progi elb.szta a felbontásomat és nem emlékszem melyik konfig fájlba mit kell átirni hogy visszaálljon15:37
togethera grafikus felbontáskezelő megfagy15:37
togethertudna valaki segiteni?15:37
e-dardIs it simple enough to turn something into an upstart service? I'm using a python worker/queue product (rq) and the workers sit in the foreground waiting for jobs. Would be good to turn into a service15:39
e-dardBasically you start a worker with $ rqworker and it sits there. Would be good to benefit from restarting the process etc if it crashes, and not having it sit in foreground15:41
infinusany ideas?15:44
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kaustubhif i connect my usb drive before ubuntu boots, it won't find my second HDD. Second HDD is windows, ntfs, and added to fstab as /dev/sdbx . Ubuntu wont boot because its unable to mount those ntfs partitions. any workaround ??15:45
llutzkaustubh: yes, don't use device-names, use UUIDs or labels in fstab15:47
Jon_Phi i have a site in apache setup to /root/html but get access denied when visit site how do i give apache access to that15:47
kaustubhllutz thanks... I wonder how I did not find that... :D15:47
kaustubhI will try that15:47
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infinus:/15:50
infinusanyone around can help me with ubuntu?15:50
h00k!ask | infinus15:50
ubottuinfinus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:50
infinusfair enough... though I posted the link to the screenshot some time ago, here it is again: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/screenshot20130306at110.png/15:51
blegatDid you run it with gksu or not finally ?15:53
h00kinfinus: you may need to run that as root to format drives15:54
blegatYep, don't try to change any permissions, just run it as root15:54
infinush00k: running gksudo gnome-disks results in a "gksudo" gear icon appearing in the ubuntu launcher, flashing a few times, and disappearing. Disk Utility never appears15:58
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Jon_Phi i have a site in apache setup to /root/html but get access denied when visit site how do i give apache access to that16:01
ivotklGotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a lpeasure as always. =)16:01
ivotklGotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a pleasure as always. =)16:01
xxxping 192.168.1.1416:03
xxxmeans16:03
xxxquit16:03
portshi16:04
xxxhellow16:04
portsI bought a VPS that was running ubuntu 11.04 .. i got it upgraded to 12.04 ..16:04
portswhen I log in.. it tells me that 12.10 is available and to do a do-release-upgrade..   run that... and it says nothing is available16:04
xxxohhh ya16:04
portssudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  - doesnt help16:05
blegatports - do not upgrade to 12.1016:05
blegatJust go to 12.0416:05
blegatOpen the Ubuntu Software Center16:05
portsblegat:  is 12.10 a beta?16:05
portsim on command line16:05
blegatKind of :D16:06
gyre007whats the best way to disable service on 12.04....is it via good old update-rc.d16:06
gyre007when I run it I get a message that API is not satble and will be removed ?16:06
gyre007mm16:06
blegat12.04 is a LTS that means it is very stable16:06
blegatAnd supported for 3 years16:06
c_randomnickHello16:06
portsoh ok16:06
blegat12.10 is not an LTS so it is less stable and only supported for 9 months16:06
gyre007blegat: whats what it says in terminal...16:06
gyre007when I run it :)16:06
gyre007no kidding16:06
portsblegat:  so leave it alone, ok :P16:06
blegatGo to Edit/Software sources16:07
gyre007The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future.16:07
portsblegat:  im on command line.. update manager is a GUI program16:07
blegatDisable which services ?16:07
gyre007mongo16:07
portsnevermind16:07
blegatAh, ok16:07
|Anthony|i just installed openssh-server and sshd isn't recognized with sudo service sshd restart16:08
|Anthony|sshd isn't even running on boot16:08
jrib|Anthony|: "ssh" not "sshd"16:08
|Anthony|i need to start the daemon to listen for incoming, right?16:08
|Anthony|jrea,16:08
hxmhello i have an ubuntu server in a dedicated server, each time i upgrade it asks for restart, but i have many online services i wont shutdown, is really neccessary restart? can i delete that warning in the motd?16:08
jrib|Anthony|: it should start automatically16:08
|Anthony|er jrib16:08
|Anthony|well it's not lol16:08
|Anthony|hence my frustration and confusion16:09
jrib|Anthony|: how are you determining it's not started?16:09
|Anthony|jrib, ps aux | grep ssh16:09
|Anthony|ssh shows, but not sshd16:09
jrib|Anthony|: « apt-cache policy openssh-server » returns?16:09
blegatsudo do-release-upgrade16:09
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|Anthony|jrib,  Installed16:10
jrib|Anthony|: can you pastebin the actual output?16:11
ozhanozenhello16:11
|Anthony|jrib, http://pastebin.com/mLy5f0JP16:12
c_randomnickI am very new to Ubuntu and all linux/unix16:12
jrib|Anthony|: so what happens when you do "sudo service ssh start" now?16:12
auronandacejrib: shouldn't that be sshd?16:13
|Anthony|ssh client runs no problem16:13
|Anthony|i need sshd to run16:13
jrib"ssh" is the name of the service for sshd16:13
c_randomnickRecently installing 12.0416:13
|Anthony|jrib, ps doens't show any root owned ssh processes16:15
jrib|Anthony|: ok but what happened when you ran it?16:15
|Anthony|ssh start/running, process 610916:15
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jrib|Anthony|: what's the output of « ps -ef | grep 6109 »?16:16
c_randomnickWhat is the best suggestion to do immediatly after installation finished?16:16
jribc_randomnick: use your OS :)16:16
|Anthony|jrib, only shows the grep call16:17
|Anthony|:/16:17
qqzwhen installing on SSD, do I have to set the inode size to a multiple of 4096?16:17
jrib|Anthony|: does /usr/sbin/sshd exist?16:17
qqzjrib: which sshd16:17
|Anthony|jrib, sure does16:17
jrib|Anthony|: just to make sure... "ssh localhost" fails, correct?16:18
|Anthony|port 22 connection refused16:18
jrib|Anthony|: run "sudo /usr/bin/sshd -d"16:18
|Anthony|ha16:19
|Anthony|config file error16:19
|Anthony|:/16:19
|Anthony|bugger16:19
c_randomnickjrib Thanks much. But how to use it best way? No antivirus needed? Or firewall?16:19
jribc_randomnick: just learn how to properly install software using the repositories and you should be ok16:20
jrib!software | c_randomnick16:20
ubottuc_randomnick: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents16:20
jrib!virus | c_randomnick16:20
ubottuc_randomnick: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus16:20
jrib!firewall | c_randomnick16:20
ubottuc_randomnick: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.16:20
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ozhanozenHow can i install a program from a tar.gz file (kompozer)16:21
ozhanozen?16:21
jrib!compile | ozhanozen16:22
pvl1hey all, im trying to install lubuntu, and when i try to set up my / partition, it subtracts a megabyte... 7168 becomes 716716:22
ubottuozhanozen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall16:22
pvl1is that bad?16:22
c_randomnickThank you and your nice bot for support. Stupid questions exists forever.16:23
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pvl1should partition sizes always be divisble by 416:24
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SuperLagother than disabling swap... anyone found a workaround to the issue with the ubuntu installer hanging?16:25
Darkstar1hi all I think some upgrade botched the window manage on my system Everytime the system boots now, I just get a command prompt16:25
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Darkstar1How can I start the window manager?16:25
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Hammerhead2011-SHi all16:27
blegatHi16:27
pvl1SuperLag, there is non, unless you enable swap on a different drive16:27
Hammerhead2011-SI upgraded to secure 12.10 and now the USB network adapters I use do not work any ideas?16:27
pvl1Darkstar1, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a16:28
pvl1Darkstar1, oh u just wanna start it? what ver ubuntu16:28
Hammerhead2011-SSorry not an upgrade a brand new install16:28
Darkstar1pvl1: 12.0416:28
kaustubhbetter you downgrade to 12.0416:28
servvswhat would be a good way to make an executable auto launch on ssh login? also if it is closed then they should be logged out of ssh16:28
kaustubhservvs add that executable to your ~/.bashrc16:29
c_randomnickc'yall16:29
Darkstar1HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYA: You should know I sang your name in my head like the outcast song :)16:29
pvl1Darkstar1, try sudo service lightdm restart16:29
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servvsand that does everythign I will need it to?16:29
pvl1Darkstar1, or just write unity and hit enter16:30
Darkstar1tried the first16:30
HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYADarkstar1 :)16:30
Darkstar1pvl1: compiz(core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :016:31
servvskaustubh, I don't really understand where I would add it16:31
discodeerHey guys! Can anyone recommend similar panel softwares to "tint2" that might be compatible with LXDE? :)16:32
pvl1Darkstar1, do u have integrated graphics or a gpu? i would just try to reconfigure all packages first16:32
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Darkstar1pvl1: discrete. Though I can't remember what card it is.16:33
Darkstar1but it's been working fine until now. I can even VNC into the system16:34
kaustubhservvs you must be having a file in your home directory for ex. /home/kaustubh/.bashrc16:34
skullboy83hi all16:34
pvl1Darkstar1, hm did u mess with the compiz config file at all16:34
kaustubhservvs open that file and add whatever command you would like to run to the end of the file for ex. /bin/wow16:34
Darkstar1pvl1: nope. It's mostly headless system. I haven't had to loginto it locally just over the local net most of the time16:35
kaustubhhello skullboy8316:35
servvsoh ok thanks kaustubh16:35
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Darkstar1pvl1: ran an update then upgrade a few days back via terminal16:35
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kaustubhtry that and let me know16:36
crevillohello, just updated my php and my vesions in ubuntu 10.04, but now i'm getting this error running php -cli   libmysqlclient_r.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 016:36
crevilloany ideas?16:37
kaustubhservvs but the command will run on every login of that user and not only on ssh logins16:37
crevilloany packages providing that?16:37
servvskaustubh would there be a good way to exit the ssh connection if a program is closed?16:37
pvl1Darkstar1, PM me please16:37
geartroopergreetings, is there a helpful website to change my smartphone to run Ubuntu?16:37
jpdsgeartrooper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install16:38
geartrooperty jpds16:38
kaustubhservvs I did not understand you question16:38
servvsif the program is closed the ssh connection should abort. I think I can do it in my program though16:39
kaustubhservvs you will ssh, then you will run a program and you want ssh session to exit after the program stops?16:39
servvscorrect16:39
geartrooperhas anyone had success changing a huawei ascend to ubuntu?16:39
kaustubhservvs what kind of program is it?16:39
sanav!ot16:40
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:40
servvskaustubh, its a chat program/server I am developing in python for a learning experience. The only reason I want ssh set up is because a lot of my friends don't use a posix compatible os and the program won't work on windows16:41
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discodeerNo one here has messed around with different panel softwares?16:42
auronandace!docks | discodeer16:43
ubottudiscodeer: Ubuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.16:43
kaustubhok. servvs I don't know python much, however you might want to try out simple command exit to exit the shell which will disconnect ssh16:43
discodeeryea, I'm using Docky but I need panel software for various indicators16:43
kaustubhI don't know how does one do that in python though16:44
discodeerIs there a way to integrate language switching button in Docky?16:44
kaustubhdiscodeer you might want to setup ubuntu hotkey for language changes maybe??16:44
kaustubhBye guys!! Happy opensourcing!!!16:45
Lord-ReadmanCan someone please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguagePackTranslationDeadline and place year information in there16:45
Lord-Readmanit makes no sense16:45
Lord-Readmanstill needs updating but i found my answer on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule16:47
geartrooperanyone here currently developing the touch phone ubuntu software?  I have some questions16:48
geartrooperfree ones16:48
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elijahHow would I upgrade NetworkManager from 0.9.4.0 (precise/12.04) to 0.9.8.0. It was working fine for a long time but now cannot maintain a connection for long. I want to upgrade but don't know the best way.16:53
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qdbhello what is %u in ubuntu default launchers ? nautilus %u , firefox %u . what disadvantages if i remove that ?17:03
Rokkrossqdb: If it works, don't touch it.17:03
qdbRokkross, i want to make custom launcher " firefox -no-remote -p default " etc should i set somewhere there "%u" and why17:04
tgm4883qdb, if I had to guess, %u would be for URI17:05
jribqdb: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/1.1/ar01s06.html17:05
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Juanito_FulenciaIf i have a package that ubuntu claims is broken, but it isnt.. How can i make ubuntu think it is correct ?17:08
jribJuanito_Fulencia: give more details17:09
Juanito_FulenciaOtherwise it will get autoremoved17:09
antzon /etc/init.d/   whats the difference between networking and network-manager. who is in charge of network?17:09
Juanito_Fulenciajrib: I have steam installed and it works perfectly. But when i try to install something in synaptic or apt it wants to remove it.17:09
jribJuanito_Fulencia: pastebin17:09
Juanito_Fulenciajrib: What do you want pasted? The apt-get output?17:10
jribJuanito_Fulencia: input and output, yes17:10
llutzantz: both, one for the ifupdown controlled things, and the other... for networkmanager17:11
Juanito_Fulenciaapt-get install yakuake results in: The following packages have unmet dependencies: steam-launcher : Depends: zenity but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)..17:11
Juanito_FulenciaI have zenity and libgtk-3-0 blacklisted. Ans steam works just fine without them17:12
jribJuanito_Fulencia: why do you have them blacklisted?17:12
Juanito_FulenciaI dont want to install them17:12
jribJuanito_Fulencia: yes, but why?17:12
Juanito_FulenciaIt is a precaution so i do not install any gtk3 applications by misstake17:13
Juanito_Fulenciaso, can i tell ubuntu that steam is actually correctly installed?17:14
jribJuanito_Fulencia: because you just don't want gtk3?  If that's the case, then your best bet is to modify the steam-launcher package so that it doesn't have those dependencies.  Though that probably means you are missing out on some functionality of the package.  The package *is not* correctly installed because its dependencies are not satisfied17:14
Juanito_FulenciaNo the only missing functionality is according to the other at ubuntu-steam only some progressbar har i have never seen anyways17:15
ghoromI like potatoes17:15
jribJuanito_Fulencia: yes.17:15
Superuser1hello17:16
jribJuanito_Fulencia: my advice would be to install zenity.  But if you insist on not doing so, then  your options are to either modify the package or use equivs.  Both of which are not ideal17:16
Juanito_FulenciaI guess i could just make a script to reinstall steam every time i want to game... That would be faster17:16
Superuser1portforwarding in ubuntu, anyone?17:16
RokkrossSuperuser1: That's something you do on your router.17:16
RokkrossIt doesn't have much to do with your OS. I mean, you need a static IP, but that's easy to set up.17:17
Superuser1how?17:17
RokkrossWell I don't know. It's your router.17:17
Superuser1help me17:17
RokkrossDo you know how to access the web interface for your router?17:17
Juanito_FulenciaSuperuser1: Your router came with a manual, and all routers are different.17:17
Superuser1nope. i am a newb to this stuff17:17
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RokkrossUsually though, you'll find something along the lines of "port forwarding" or "virtual servers"17:18
RokkrossIn which you'll put in external port start/end, internal port start/end, and the local IP of the machine you're forwarding ports to.17:18
RokkrossAgain, you need it to be a static IP. If you're trying to do this on a laptop that you use outside of the house I'd just forget about it if I were you.17:18
Juanito_FulenciaRokkross: You could use dhcp with binding to the mac adress if the router supports it.17:19
wooJuanito_Fulencia: mac to port?17:20
RokkrossRight, I don't think mine does so I wouldn't know how to go about doing that :P17:20
David^^is there any cli tool that can identify the hard drive in my machine?17:20
llutzDavid^^: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX17:20
ghoromI like potatoes17:21
ghorom!porn17:21
wooDavid^^:  /dev/disk/by-label/ and tab thru17:21
Juanito_Fulenciawoo: Mac adress of the NIC17:21
wooDavid^^: or lshw17:22
wooJuanito_Fulencia: Nic of Host cpu?17:22
wooJuanito_Fulencia: cool17:23
wooJuanito_Fulencia: that improves dynamic on lan17:24
wooJuanito_Fulencia: would also make it easy to mask a mim17:25
ghoromany potato lovers here?17:25
llutzghorom: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?17:26
David^^llutz woo : thanks17:26
ghoromyes llutz , I want to know how to embed a kernel into a potato device17:26
llutzstop your nonsense here17:27
acolytetojippitycan't tell if serious or not...17:27
wooacolytetojippity: me either17:27
acolytetojippitythere isn't any like, open source platform with the codename potato, right?17:27
acolytetojippitylike, that's not a thing, is it?17:27
ghoromdebian 3 is potato17:27
llutzacolytetojippity: potato was an early debian release name17:27
acolytetojippityseriously?  lol.17:28
Rokkrossghorom: Find a large potato and carve it into a raspberry pi case.17:28
wooRokkross: just slide a usb w/ a cable out the top17:29
acolytetojippityaccrding to wikipedia, 2.2 was potato.17:29
ghoromsorry, made a mistake17:29
keithzgDebian release names are based off of Toy Story, so "potato" actually makes sense as a release name.17:30
wooanyone wanna help me get vnc to work from fedora to ubuntu?17:31
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Juanito_FulenciaBtw i just removed the entry of zenity from steam-launcher in /var/lib/dkpg/status and now it wont bother me again about that.17:32
Juanito_Fulenciakeithzg: potato has allready been used17:33
Juanito_Fulenciasid will never go away though as he is the kid that comes around and breaks everything.17:34
nils___is there some way I can use the regular 12.10 DVD and install on RAID / LVM?17:34
keithzgJuanito_Fulencia: Yeah, I know actually, I was just responding to acolytetojippity's incredulity about the name.17:34
Juanito_Fulenciakeithzg: oh, i see17:35
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qdbthank you ,  jrib17:35
ner0xHow, on ubuntu one, can I provide a list of files/directories to ignore?17:38
bsnlStill trying to install the program from last night, It had a music issue commonly associated with ubuntu usage and i'm trying to follow these directions here to fix it but I need help17:38
bsnlCorrection- Program is installed, but the musics not working and I have to trouble shoot it17:39
bsnlhttp://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html is what i'm trying to install and i'm stuck on step "Open a terminal and change the directory to the download destination.17:40
ghorommy machine has two graphic cards, the powerful one does not work by default in windows, but when I run ubuntu, the fans work hard and the machine gets so hot andd the battery goes off so soon.17:40
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petafileI'm trying to change my shell, but chsh -s /bin/bash give me an error user does not exist in /etc/passwd.  Is there a way around this?17:41
suoreHello, how change ubuntu name in nerwork?17:42
Guest97239ciao17:42
Guest97239list17:42
llutzPeanut: as user "chsh -s /bin/bash" or "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username"17:43
llutzpetafile: ^^17:43
petafilellutz: that's exactly what I ran, and it gave me the /etc/passwd error.  I'm NOT in /etc/passwd for some reason17:43
llutzpetafile: getent passwd username17:44
pintest17:44
petafilellutz that all looks right to me17:44
misterz3d#irc17:45
misterz3dops17:45
petafilellutz: how do I modify that then?17:45
[snake]is there a way to install a minimal version of gnome3. like no extra applications like the official gnome calendar or w/e. i already have stuff fo all that.17:45
[snake]?17:45
bsnlThe download destination/directory of the downloaded file was identified in used in command this is what the terminal gave me17:45
llutzpetafile: "sudo usermod -s /bin/bash username"17:46
petafilellutz: I have sudo access, but why can't I change my OWN shell without it? (just curious)17:47
llutzpetafile: honestly, idk. i never had seen that issue17:47
petafilehmm.  Weird.  Thanks17:48
bsnlOh sweet nvm figured it out17:50
bsnlLooks like just bravely jumping in and trusting yourself is the way around any linux issue17:51
Krupptsuore: You want to change hostname? edit the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts file to change ...take note of current name and change likewise17:52
[snake]like idk. in gentoo there is emerge gnome-light or something.17:52
[snake]maybe there is a way to do it with aptitude17:52
suoreKruppt, im afraid by console, is possible by clicking by gui?17:52
Krupptsuore:there may be, but I'm not familiar with the GUI tools to do so.17:54
bsnlbsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads$ cd avbin-linux-x86-32-717:55
bsnlbsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads/avbin-linux-x86-32-7$ sudo ./install.sh17:55
bsnlbsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads/avbin-linux-x86-32-7$17:55
bsnlDoes this mean it installed? The directory isn't showing anything17:56
woo! pastebin | bsnl17:56
ubottubsnl: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:56
N2ghtCrawlerI'd like to set up a mail server for MFP machines to use for outgoing mail. Can some one point me to a good guide for a outgoing-email-only-server?17:57
llutz!info ssmtp | N2ghtCrawler17:58
ubottuN2ghtCrawler: ssmtp (source: ssmtp): extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.64-7 (quantal), package size 43 kB, installed size 8 kB17:58
llutzN2ghtCrawler: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-ssmtp.html17:58
N2ghtCrawlerllutz: thanks! Will have a look!17:59
llutzN2ghtCrawler: there are also msmtp, nullmailer as simple "sendmail" solutions17:59
bsnlThere you go Woo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591047/  and this was the command trying to match up with the instructions posted HERE- http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html  instructions for linux step 2 with avbin installation18:01
skulltipif i get an asus, wipe it and install ubuntu on it.. could i run games and apps such as steam and blender, or will it only work on i386/x64?18:01
wooskulltip: back up /dev/sda before you wipe it18:02
skulltipi'm reading 12.10 can be installed though, is it emulating x86 since the asus is atom based?18:02
llutzskulltip: atom is x8618:03
tgm4883skulltip, the atom is an x86/64 processor18:03
skulltipohh cool18:03
skulltipatom is like intel or amd then18:03
tgm4883atom is made by intel18:03
llutzskulltip: no, atom is like pentium, celeron. a cpu-family by intel18:04
woollutz: how is steam under an atom processor?18:04
llutzidk, i don't play games18:04
wooskulltip: if you just want games then I would back that sda up first18:05
N2ghtCrawlerllutz: If I understand correctly, none of those servers relay mail? They can USE a relay but I want to BE the relay.18:05
skulltipok ty18:05
bsnlDoes the command log I posted look like it installed? I think it did18:05
llutzN2ghtCrawler: oh, ok. sry i got you wrong then18:06
wooskulltip: what gpu are you running on the atom machine?18:06
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llutzN2ghtCrawler: you asked about "outgoing-email-only-server",that not a relay18:07
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Knoobwut18:08
N2ghtCrawlerllutz: sorry, I was unclear. I want to relay emails from MFP machines.18:10
bsnlnevermind, I got to work. Woohoo!18:10
bsnlTroubleshooting linux is the most fun thing ever18:11
llutzN2ghtCrawler: just install postfix or exim4. there should be howtos on the wiki18:11
MakiAtotasa!18:11
bsnlWhat are some really good guides you guys would suggest for getting a good handle on linux? I want to do more with this system but my knowledge is limited18:11
MakiAtotada!18:11
jrib!rute | bsnl18:12
ubottubsnl: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com18:12
llutzN2ghtCrawler: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4 , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix18:12
bsnlsweet thanks jrib18:12
jribbsnl: rute gives a very broad intro to a lot of topics18:13
Taevhow do i add a desktop icon in KDE18:13
Taevi want to create an icon for terminal18:13
bsnlNice jrib. Welp, I know what i'm doing this afternoon18:13
Taevbut the only options i get are run command, add widget, add panel18:14
nate_his there anyway to provide a package-selection file when removing packages?  resolvconf always has a dialog box which the user simply presses ok on, but this prevents me from scripting its removal18:14
goantaflorinhello18:15
Taevalso how do i align the desktop icons in KDE?18:15
goantaflorinsound problem ubuntu 12.0418:16
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setraI like to replace a string in a file.txt with multiple lines generated in a bash script on the fly VAR="line1 <return>line2...etc.linex", how can I do that.18:17
davis776Hello, when I lock my 12.10 with ctrl+alt+l screen is still on for few minutes, can I set it to turn off immediately?18:17
magichandsis there some saner way to manage package versions?18:18
magichandsit seems like I need a PPA for almost everything18:18
Pici!latest18:19
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.18:19
s0r1nhello from romania18:19
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magichandsis there some sane way to have multiple php versions installed currently?18:21
ubuntu22I am getting errors when trying to update my 12.04 - Update Manager is erroring with Not all updates can be installed, and I cannot install new linux headers18:22
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setraanybody with sed experience, or better ideas?18:23
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pseudonymousIn hopes of not getting a 'rtfm' - how the heck do I disable a service right here now using that damnable upstart ? SystemD has straightforward syntax but skimming through the upstart manual I still have no answer, it's a mess :(18:24
pseudonymous(I'm looking to disable whoopsie and cron and not have them resurrect on me)18:25
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tgm4883pseudonymous, that sounds like a question for #upstart18:28
pseudonymousWhy's there even a channel for that, it's not like anyone but ubuntu uses this trash :(18:29
tgm4883pseudonymous, ???18:30
guide_Xhow do I enable scrollbars in ubuntu 12.10? i'm using xfce18:31
pseudonymoustgm4883: Nevermind, I'm just crying/lamenting, I had to run ubuntu on this server due to some annoying proprietary driver and so I'm stuck with upstart, it's impossible to figure out compared to systemD or initD18:31
guide_Xin the file manager18:31
tgm4883pseudonymous, to each his own18:32
guide_Xanyone know how to do it? I can't get to the bottom of any window18:32
tgm4883guide_X, perhaps #xubuntu knows18:33
pseudonymoustgm4883: anything that forces a 100+ page manual on you to stop a service is bad, no matter what it can do otherwise18:35
Akshayri installd virtual box through Software center and now i want to remove it ... how should I ?18:35
tgm4883pseudonymous, I don't think I understand. You don't need a 100+ page manual to stop a service (service <SERVICE> stop)18:35
guide_X+1, tired of reading hundred page manuals so I can do one simple thing heh18:35
streulmalooking for a ubuntu to run on Pentium 318:36
tgm4883guide_X, that is what ctrl+f is for?18:36
tgm4883or ToC18:36
tgm4883streulma, probably #xubuntu18:36
guide_Xstill18:36
mrmcgibbyafter upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 successfully, the next upgrade (to 11.10?) fails to boot.  Where should I start?  I'm using software raid which I suspect is the issue.18:37
guide_Xalthough service (service) stop shouldn't be hard18:37
tgm4883guide_X, I'd rather have 100 pages of documentation than zero18:37
guide_Xtrue18:37
tgm4883guide_X, and there is far too many projects with zero documentation18:38
guide_Xthat's very true too..18:38
DoWhileGeekyou know what to do https://www.change.org/petitions/skype-update-the-linux-and-mac-clients-to-match-windows18:38
tgm4883DoWhileGeek, good luck getting microsoft to do that18:39
DoWhileGeeksometimes nagging works18:39
Akshayrquit()18:39
Akshayrquit18:39
tgm4883DoWhileGeek, millions of dollars in fines doesn't even work with microsoft18:40
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DoWhileGeekmaybe they just dont know how much the users on these platforms want updates?18:40
DoWhileGeekthey stand to make as much money from us as windows users18:41
tgm4883DoWhileGeek, maybe they just don't care?18:41
KHendrikhi folks18:41
KHendrikI just got a new pc and its the first i own with efi and secure boot ... is there anything i need to take care of before installing ubuntu (i want to remove Windows 8 during install)18:42
suolakurkku_o/18:43
tgm4883KHendrik, IIRC, 12.04.2 and 12.10 both work OOTB with secure boot, that said, I had to disable secure boot on my dell laptop when installing 12.1018:43
KHendriktgm4883, is there any advantage in using secure boot?18:45
tgm4883personally, I say no18:46
sysop2hi18:46
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sysop2is there anyway to synchronize the same command across two boxes?  other than making sure their clocks are synced and croning them at the same time.18:47
skulltipsorry woo, i got pulled away. what gpu on the atom machine?18:47
KHendriktgm4883, ok the live cd boots successfully with secureboot enabled so i guess the installer should be fine too18:47
tgm4883KHendrik, yea should be fine then18:47
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tgm4883sysop2, is this a one time thing, or something that reoccurs18:48
guide_Xhmm does anyone know how to enable scrollbars in ubuntu 12.10?18:48
tgm4883sysop2, and what is your margin of error on the time18:48
KHendrikhmm I've got an 256GB SSD and 2TB HDD how would i normally go with partitioning?18:51
wooKHendrik: um RAID?18:54
KHendrikwoo, I was thinking the SSD for / and HDD for /home/ but it might be a bit much 256GB for / without home18:56
tgm4883KHendrik, I've got a much smaller SSD, but I did /home and / on SSD, and then mounted the HDD and gave permission to my  user for that18:57
skulltipanyone have ubuntu running on asus tf700, if so how does it perform with applications, memory, power usage, etc18:57
tgm4883then used the HDD for large storage files (media/vms)18:57
alainusi am trying to add the new apt repositories for postgresql, and they suggest using http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/quantal-pgdg (I'm using quantal). However, the repository only has until precise. is it safe to just replace the keyword and use the repo for precise?18:58
theadminalainus: Quite likely not.18:58
theadminalainus: Postgres is in the Ubuntu repos, why not just use that?18:58
KHendriktgm4883, sounds like a good idea.18:59
alainustheadmin, because i tried installing hstore from the postgresql-contrib-9.2 and it doesn't show under /usr/share/postgresql/9.2/contrib .. so i was trying to add the recommended apt repo from postgres and try to reinstall postgresql-contrib-9.219:00
alainusbut seems i should just go to 9.1 =(19:00
tgm4883alainus, what exactly are you trying to do?19:00
theadminalainus: You don't always need the newest version of whatever for it to work.19:01
alainustgm4883, just updgrade to postgres 9.219:02
tgm4883alainus, " postgresql-contrib-9.2 and it doesn't show under /usr/share/postgresql/9.2/contrib"   what are you looking for?19:02
guide_Xis there some kind of trick to get the scrollwheel on my mouse to work?19:03
tgm4883alainus, quantal has 9.2, so you should just need to apt-get install it19:03
tgm4883alainus, wait, my bad19:03
tgm4883aparently my brain doesn't work, it has 9.119:03
alainustgm4883, i'm looking for hstore19:04
Novusubuntu alt channel for chat?19:04
streulmait's not good to install postgresql and Tomcat just from the packages of Ubuntu19:04
streulmaI know ot from GIS poeple19:04
streulmapeople19:04
alainusi'll just go with 9.1 for now19:05
tgm4883alainus, /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/lib/hstore.so19:05
tgm4883alainus, I'd imagine it's in a similar place for 9.219:05
NovusQuestion - Will ubuntu have an app store like android and crapple?19:05
Novusfor their new phone?19:06
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SierraARI'd think it'd be similar to the ubuntu software center in 12.04/12.1019:06
NovusI'm a dev for portable games and I'll be damned if I ever do anythign for apple, but I am looking to widden my market19:07
tgm4883I'd imagine they'd just write a phone interface for USC19:07
xangua!phone | Novus19:07
ubottuNovus: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:07
NovusI am launching a windows app port this week and was looking into them next19:07
Novusnice19:08
H0r1ZoNWith Mir, Seems like Canonical wants everything in-house.19:09
Novusthe apps?19:09
H0r1ZoNThe doubth is if it will be a success.19:09
tgm4883no, the apps won't all be in house19:09
tgm4883H0r1ZoN, is being a bit random and OT19:10
Novusi only made $500 bucks on 1 game so far and it's pissing me off for the dev time put in19:10
tgm4883Novus, what game?19:10
NovusFuture ops19:11
tgm4883Novus, on android?19:12
Novusyes19:12
mJaykwin 519:13
tgm4883Novus, just looking at it now. It isn't my type of game, but it seems premium users don't get much extra? just sooner access to new features?19:13
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Novusyes,. working on a map system that users can build their own levels soon with premade models19:13
Novusthat wil be in the pro version19:13
timindaburghI'm trying to print via LAN from a laptop with U12.10 onto a Canon MF4880dw ImageCLASS printer. Canon does not offer drivers and I can't get anything to work. Ideas?19:14
bobkaI'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"? If yes, how? Tha19:15
tgm4883timindaburgh, have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/234196/trying-to-setup-a-cannon-image-class-mf4880dw-printer19:15
timindaburghtgm4883 I'll try that now.19:16
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timindaburghtgm4883 I've downloaded the file from Canon. Now, when I add the printer on my U12.10 by looking for the PPD file, I'm not able to find it in the 32-bit_Driver folder. What must I do next?19:23
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ccvvcchow to format c text in nano?19:28
auronandaceccvvcc: format?19:29
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dwardis the drive encryption type from the live cd just luks19:30
ccvvccarrange by blocks nests19:30
leptonedoes anyone know how to setup aptana for django development? i am unable to open certain folders in my project.19:31
zyngawowCan anyone here help with AWS?19:31
DartellumHello, does anyone have a good reason to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?19:33
auronandaceDartellum: more recent apps19:34
TraNGood evening, or whatever time it is at your place =) So, im running windows 8, but growing tired of it, though I will probably need it for a while still, for gaming and such, so I am about to try dual booting it with ubuntu. Anything in particular I should consider before installing?19:36
timindaburghtgm4883: I've tried to install the MF4880DW driver without luck. I first tried in the ADD PRINTER within U12.10, then I tried to use a browser using localhost:631. When trying the latter, I get "Unable to add printer: Unable to copy interface script - No such file or directory" using any PPD file from Canon. Any suggestions of what to try next?19:36
auronandace!uefi | TraN19:37
ubottuTraN: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:37
TraNheh, thanks :)19:37
SuperLagI've got two displays. I have it configured with arandr. I'm just not sure where to put the shell script that it creates, so that the settings persist on boot.19:37
ioriaTraN: meaning, uefi it's a nightmare19:37
TraNso Ive read, but I didnt really 100% understand what it does..19:38
enavHeloo, i got $300 and i need a laptop to do web development with 4GB of ram, any recommendation where i can get a new laptop for that max price ?????19:38
DJonesenav: Ask in ##hardware19:39
ioriaTraN: the problem is the MBR, master boot record, required by grub19:39
TraNioria, what about it?19:39
swebhow can i set cache server to my local system. using ubuntu 12.10 server19:39
swebi'v install bind919:39
escottioria, TraN UEFI doesn't have an MBR19:39
Sornaensisweb development requires at least 8gb of ram, sorry19:40
TraN>_< ouch.19:40
ioriaTraN: grub is the boot oader of Ubu, but uefi has no mbr19:40
bekksEven UEFI has an MBR - it is the first logical block of a disk.19:40
guide_Xhow do I get my mouses scrollwheel to work in ubuntu 12.10?19:40
ioriaTraN: grub is the boot loader of Ubu, but uefi has no mbr19:40
leptonehas anyone setup aptana before?19:40
guide_Xi've installed aptana under windows (unfortunetly)19:40
TraNsame here. didnt think it worked great though.19:41
guide_Xit was pretty horrible and slow19:41
auronandaceleptone: what is it?19:41
guide_XI like geany :)19:41
fourqIs it possible to create an image of my ubuntu install after I have everything setup the way I want it, so that I can re-install at anytime? Also adding incrementals to it when I add more that I want on the image?19:41
ntzrmtthihu777fourq: remastersys19:42
ioriaTraN: you should convert your hd19:42
leptoneAptana is an IDE i think specifically for web dev. ive got it dset up but am expirencing a very strange issue.19:42
TraNbut following this guide about installing with uefi will work, or is one of those annyoing "will sometimes work"?19:42
fourqntzrmtthihu777: ty19:42
ntzrmtthihu777TraN: there is always a risk doing anything.19:42
escottTraN, a number of the UEFI implementations out there are broken in subtle ways19:43
ioriaTraN: really, i have no uefi, but if it's reccomended it should work :P19:43
escottTraN, i would certainly recommend disabling secure boot19:43
bsnlWhy do people prefer Gentoo?19:43
jman074holy crap there are a lot of people in this room how is it possible to get any help in here. lol19:43
DJonesbsnl: You should ask that in #gentoo19:43
auronandacebsnl: this channel is for ubuntu help19:43
jribbsnl: ask the people who prefer it :)  You could try #ubuntu-offtopic but that's probably not the best place19:44
bsnlOh there's a gentoo channel? thanks, i'll go there19:44
leptoneI am unable to view the contents of /workspace/mysite/mysite from aptana (or eclipse with the aptana plugin) but i can view contents of othe folders for instance /workspace/mysite/polls/ (going thro django polls tutorial)19:44
TraNescott: yes, that certainly seems like a good thing then.. but how will it affect my winblow?19:44
TraN+s19:44
swebany one ?19:44
ntzrmtthihu777jman074: ask. If there were noone here no one could help you. the strength of ubuntu is the community19:44
escottTraN, you won't be booting with secure boot, thats the only difference19:44
jribleptone: what happens when you try to view them?  Can you ls the directory in a terminal?19:44
jman074NTZ if your not busy could you i pm you for some help19:44
guide_Xso anyone know how to enable the mouse scroll wheel in ubuntu 12.1019:45
TraNescott: I see.. well, if its as easy as that, then I will just go ahead and disable it I guess..?19:45
guide_Xor some kind of special trick to make the scroll wheel work?19:45
ntzrmtthihu777jman074: it is usual to settle out in channel, so others can see and learn, but its ok.19:46
auronandaceguide_X: they should just work, unless you got some special sort of gamers mouse19:46
leptonejrib, i can acces the DIR via termianl no problem. in eclipse or aptanta  i see the mysite/mysite directory but rather than have a triangle "drop down toggle" like the mysite/polls directory the mysite/mysite is an icon of a folder. but i cant open the folder and edit its contents. like if i double click on it nothing opens or changes19:46
swebhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/264827/changing-name-server-to-local19:47
guide_Xnope it's a regular old mouse19:47
guide_Xwith a scrollwheel19:47
guide_Xan logitech rx150019:47
rndbithey any of you fine people know workaround for wine failing to detect libosmesa on ubuntu?19:47
guide_Xit's in virtual box as well19:47
auronandacerndbit: is mesa installed?19:48
rndbitsure is19:48
jribleptone: strange.  Is there anything peculiar about these directories?  Are they maybe symlinks?  What's ls -ld mysite/mysite return?19:48
rndbitas far as i gathered its wine problem, but in #winehq everyone is asleep19:48
rndbit/home/rndbit/wine-git/conftest.c:171: undefined reference to `glAccum'19:48
ntzrmtthihu777windows version of unetbootin can burn an iso to a hard-drive partition, linux's does not. is there a way you can figure this in linux?19:49
leptonejrib, drwxrwxr-x 2 casey casey 4096 Mar  6 11:05 .19:50
auronandacerndbit: wine-git? so you are not using the wine from the repos?19:50
fisch246anyone know how to manually uninstall a program? I installed spotweb and it got corrupted in the install. so now any sort of uninstall won't work unless i manually just start deleting packages. would removing the bin be enough for ubuntu not to notice it? once i get ubuntu to not notice it, i can move onto removing the install folder.19:50
rndbitim compiling my own19:50
leptonejrib, symlinks?19:50
rndbitwant to apply some patches19:50
d3c0django and apache2?19:50
ntzrmtthihu777fisch246: how do you mean not notice it19:50
fisch246ntzrmtthihu777: it tries to update and such, which creates a broken package system19:51
jribleptone: never mind, your ls output indicates it's not a symlink.  Have you tried renaming it?  Could be some sort of weird bug because the parent directory has the same name19:52
auronandacefisch246: manually deleting things will very likely confuse dpkg and mess up your system19:52
ioriafisch246: if you download and compile a package you can use make unistall, and in the README or INSTALL you should find info19:52
Trackerneed help switching to apache2-mpm-worker and php5-fpm .. currently on mpm-prefork and php and everything works.. but want to upgrade to mpm-worker and php5-fpm so installed package mpm-worker and it autoremoves php5apachemodule and then when trying to configure php5-fpm with mod_fastcgi or fcgid php is still browser download or plain text... not executed.. with mpm-worker .. whats wrong..ö19:52
Trackeranyone? no errors in logs.19:52
guide_Xso does anyone know how to troubleshoot the mouse scrollwheel? I can't get it to work at all.. I have a normal laser mouse with two buttons19:52
ntzrmtthihu777apt-get remove -f package19:52
ntzrmtthihu777should force the removal19:52
jribguide_X: see if anything is registered when you scroll in an "xev" window19:52
guide_Xhmm ok19:53
timindaburghStill trying to install ImageCLASS MF4450 drivers on my U12.10 to print on a LAN-connected ImageCLASS MF4880dw. When I try to install the 32-bit driver, I get the error: "Unable to open PPD file - Missing asterisk in column 1 on line 1... etc." Can anyone offer suggestions?19:53
guide_Xno nothing19:53
jxshxxCould have sworn setting up dual boot w/ xp used to be easier.  Did the steps change from Live CD?19:54
jribguide_X: what ubuntu version? What mouse?19:54
fisch246(solved) the command apt-get remove -f, did what i wanted19:55
guide_Xubuntu 12.10, logitech rx150019:55
fisch246Thanks!19:55
fisch246ntzrmtthihu777: cheers19:55
leptonejrib, i believe thats how it works. i think it has something to do with the way i migrated it to eclipse bc i just create a new project with in eclipse an i am able to view the contents of test/test id really like it if i didnt have to start the django tutorial over after recreating the project within eclipse19:56
ntzrmtthihu777I guess that did it19:56
jribleptone: I don't know anything about eclipse so don't really have anything else to suggest unfortunately19:56
hugezz19:56
leptonejrib, np thanks for help.19:57
jribguide_X: have you ruled out a hardware problem?19:57
guide_Xwell the mouse works fine in windows19:57
guide_Xscrollwheel works and such19:58
jribguide_X: you can try playing with xinput (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input) but I don't know exactly what you need to do19:58
guide_Xok cool19:58
guide_Xoh i've also tried other mice, forgot to mention19:59
guide_XI tried another simple  microsoft mouse with laser and scrollwheel as well19:59
jribguide_X: and the other mouse worked ok?19:59
guide_Xit works fine, except for the scroll wheel of course20:00
jribguide_X: hmm.20:00
guide_Xit doesn't work just like the other mouse,20:00
guide_Xbut works in windows as well20:00
auronandaceguide_X: do you have a custom xorg.conf?20:01
guide_Xhmm not that I know of20:02
guide_Xno one else uses the linux install except for me, but I didn't edit the xorg.conf20:03
Mishkewhich last ubuntu version with gnome?20:03
n-iCe12.1020:03
auronandaceguide_X: by default there is no xorg.conf but some graphics drivers do generate one20:03
guide_XMishke: you can still use gnome shell in 12.1020:03
Mishkeguide_X: i want use gnome 220:04
auronandaceMishke: gnome2 is dead, move on20:04
guide_XI have a 11.04 with gnome 2 sitting around20:04
Mishkeauronandace: gnome3 is dead too, but many users use this :)20:04
auronandaceMishke: no, gnome3 is actively developed20:04
guide_Xbleh gnome3, bleh gnome shell ... gnome 2 :>20:05
auronandaceguide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported20:05
guide_XI agree with mishke on this one20:05
Mishkeauronandace: i dont like gnome3, he dead!20:05
guide_Xyeah... it's the only one I know of is the only reason I mention it20:05
auronandaceMishke: then use something else20:05
Mishkeits can be on develop, but its dead20:05
Mishkeauronandace: gnome2!20:05
Mishkegnome2 is alive!20:05
subcoolwhat folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?20:06
auronandaceMishke: stop being silly, there are others to choose from: kde, xfce, lxde, enlightenment20:06
guide_XMishke: according to this article, you can use gnome2 with 12.10 http://dijks.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/install-gnome-2-on-ubuntu-12-10/20:06
guide_Xbut I haven't tried it :>20:06
zyngawowdoes something connected to the internet always respond to pings?20:06
Mishkeguide_X: now u using gnome2?20:06
guide_Xon 11.0420:06
auronandaceguide_X: that is a very bad idea20:06
guide_XI'm sure it is :>20:07
guide_XI have an 11.04 and a 12.10, on 12.10 I use unity and xfce, but on 11.04, I use gnome220:07
guide_Xthe 11.04 I can't get rid of or replace20:07
guide_Xit's just stuck the way it is forever20:07
styler2goHello :)20:08
styler2goCan someone explain me what the yellow indicator mean? http://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/fw_conntrack-day.png20:08
styler2gowhat does "time_wait" exactly tell me?20:08
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guide_Xmishke wants to use gnome2 for the same reason why people hate windows8, because it's what they're used to I think..20:09
guide_Xplus the gnome shell has some kind of weird flickering problem , at least for me20:09
auronandaceguide_X: that doesn't change the fact that it is no longer supported here20:09
guide_Xthat's true20:10
robert_me-5Hello, annyone know how to configure Pidgin for facebook chat20:10
Mishkeguide_X can i send PM you?20:10
guide_Xhmm mishke my pm is currently broken20:11
unbornrobert_me-5, me.. i use to have it.. once i had fb :)20:11
guide_Xbut I will join you in a vacant channel20:11
bean__styler2go: do you mean the "NATed" bit?20:12
unbornrobert_me-5, its easy.. i have no facebook (fb) any more.. coz it is useless for me..20:12
styler2goi dont know what the "time_wait" mean...20:12
robert_me-5@unborn: Shut it20:13
unborn20.12 styler2go20:13
xanguarobert_me-5: add new account, facebook, enter your facebook username and password, done20:13
styler2go?20:13
unbornrobert_me-5, 1st of all you need to know your nickname* on facebook.. like facebook.com/yournickname20:13
unbornrobert_me-5, once you have that you will use that as your username for login and your usual password.. as base or how it use to call type in /Home and press add.. and you done :)20:14
bean__styler2go: time_wait is orange, fwiw.20:14
styler2goyes but what does that mean...20:14
bean__styler2go: time wait means that it's waiting to close the connection20:15
giikerstyler2go: if I not mistaken, it's just TCP connections20:15
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unbornstyler2go, that should be tpc connections..20:15
bean__yep.20:15
styler2goso everything is ok if this is high?20:15
giikerstyler2go: if you have NFS somewhere it might be related to RPC TCP connections20:15
bean__as long as your firewall can handle that many connections, sure, that's fine20:16
styler2gook cool thank you :)20:16
styler2goso much traffic today :D20:16
robert_me-5@unborn: well I think I have done what you are saying but it doesn't seem to be working hmmmm20:16
unbornstyler2go, if that is your own server you may look at the logs.. what(who) is causing that tragic and may adjust your fw ;)20:17
siertthis landscape thing; is there no such thing as manage <x> systems for free?20:17
styler2goCan you guys explain some more things? unborn: no, its ok that there are so many poeple20:17
unbornrobert_me-5, this would be better perhaps.. please go here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/12527/easily-add-facebook-chat-to-pidgin/20:18
unborni am using bittlebee heh sorry :)20:18
bobkaHi, how to mount usb thumbdrive to /media from installation CLI?20:18
robert_me-5@unborn: ok I'll check out your link thanks20:19
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ntzrmtthihu777bobka: sudo mount /dev/drive# /media/target20:21
kurteknikkHi, simple question: how do i file a bug in ubuntu on Launchpad ?20:21
kurteknikkI click on "report a bug" and i end up in a 'how to page'20:22
unbornrobert_me-5, they changed domain.. heh sorry about small mistake but this should work for you.. I am sorry but I dont have fb account anymore so I could not check it for ya20:22
Injigo_hello20:22
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: what is the bug20:22
unbornntzrmtthihu777, its a glitch :)20:22
Injigo_anyone here know about recovering partitions?20:22
unbornntzrmtthihu777, system error or anomaly20:22
kurteknikkntzrmtthihu777: mysql 5.5.30 memory leak20:22
ntzrmtthihu777unborn: do you think I am stupid? I said the bug, not a bug20:23
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Guest55550I am having an issue installing Ubuntu, anyone want to let me know what I am doing wrong?20:23
unbornntzrmtthihu777, what makes you think like that?20:23
unbornaha i see :)20:24
ntzrmtthihu777unborn: quite frankly your condecinding tone20:24
ntzrmtthihu777Guest55550: how are you trying to do it20:24
bobka@kurteknikk - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?20:24
Guest55550I don't have a cd drive, so I put it on my external hd and trying to boot up through that20:24
Guest55550I ran the installer, and have the file unpackaged on there.20:24
ntzrmtthihu777what do you mean put it on? just copied the iso?20:24
jCuberGuest55550: USB devices are reset during the installation, aren't they?20:25
TraNso, again about this dual booting win8 and ubuntu; as I read it, the problem is if you have Secure Boot enabled, otherwise its supposed to work as it normally would, right?20:25
Guest55550No, I used the universal USB installer20:25
kurteknikk@bobka - i didn't reply to anything you said... not sure what the thks is for...20:25
Guest55550I am using win720:25
* _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D20:25
unbornntzrmtthihu777, i see.. well i can always go to debs channel.. i was just answering your question.. how ever you did ask what is bug.. that was my answer..20:25
jCuberGuest55550: So what exactly happens wrong?20:25
maveasCinnamon on the Desktop, any takers?20:26
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ntzrmtthihu777unborn: scroll up. I did not say is bug, I said is the bug20:26
kurteknikk@unborn / @ntzrmtthihu777... guys pls i'm answering a question20:26
Guest55550It will either say I don't have a valid device to boot through or just freeze20:26
Injigo_maveas: what do you mean?20:26
* unborn guessing he kick me :D20:26
unbornkurteknikk, sure20:26
Guest55550When I go to the bios to tell it to load from my Toshiba HD it will show something CD and Removable Device as my two options.20:27
unbornntzrmtthihu777, i know.. my apology20:27
jCuberGuest55550: Have you changed the boot order from your BIOS?20:27
maveasInjigo_: Anybody using it today? I might give it a try and I just wanted to hear other opinions first.20:27
ntzrmtthihu777Guest55550: use unetbootin to set up the ubuntu on a flash stick, then install from that onto the external hdd20:27
DartellumI did use Cinnamon until recently20:27
Guest55550Every time I boot it will ask ubuntu or windows. I have not done that, what order do I need to have?20:27
jCuberGuest55550: Removable device = USB drive20:27
Injigo_maveas: oh i gotcha, yeah i use it and it's quite nice, it's also maturing pretty nicely20:27
maveasDartellum: Then you switched to??20:27
Dartellumsomething happened during an update and all the bars went whacky20:27
Dartellumwent back to Unity20:27
enroxorz-workis there a way to replace rhythmbox with banshee under the sound menu?20:28
maveasOk20:28
ntzrmtthihu777Guest55550: and when you install grub to a device it autodetects windows and other linux distros20:28
kurteknikkmy question is lost...20:28
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: yeah, remove rhythmbox and install banshee20:28
DartellumI have not tried reinstalling since updating to 12.04.220:28
subcoolwhat folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?20:28
Guest55550Ntzrmtthiu777: ? I am new to this, not quite sure what you mean.20:28
bobkantzrmtthihu777 - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?20:28
enroxorz-workthanks20:28
DartellumI think 12.04.1 messed it up20:28
matelkoHi20:29
ntzrmtthihu777you were supposed to insert your own valuse there20:29
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: are you new to linux?20:29
bobkakurteknikk: oops! welcome just the same. : )20:29
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maveasThanks Dartellum  :)20:30
kurteknikk@bobka dw :)20:30
enroxorz-workntzrmtthihu777:  sorry for bugging, but now rhythmbox is gone under the sound menu but banshee has not replaced it. am i missing something? i went into Details and changed the default app...20:30
bobkanot a beginner, but when an install fails.20:31
enroxorz-workwait20:31
xanguaenroxorz-work: i believe you need to enable banshee sound menu on it's preferences20:31
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: not a problem, I did this once before.20:31
enroxorz-worknevermind ntzrmtthihu77720:31
enroxorz-worki figured out what i did wrong20:31
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: got it working?20:31
enroxorz-workyeah, had to open up banshee...im an idiot20:31
enroxorz-workthanks ntzrmtthihu77720:31
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: your're not an idiot, you got off the windows hell hole so that is a smart move in my book20:32
unbornagree ^^20:32
matelkoHi. I am new to Ubuntu. I changed and formated my partitions after installing 12.1. Only system partition stays the same. Now I can not write files on my empty partitions. What can be wrong? Thank you.20:32
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ntzrmtthihu777matelko: the other partitions are likely owned by root20:33
kurteknikk@ntzrmtthihu777 when you have some time, let me know20:34
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: run gksudo nautilus and see if you can create files in there that way20:34
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: what is the issue?20:34
matelkook, wait a sec please20:34
unbornmatelko zdravim ta20:35
unborn:)20:35
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kurteknikk@ntzrmtthihu777 as i said, i want to figure out how can i report a bug in ubuntu (bug found is for mysql 5.5.29 memory leak) but when i press report a bug, i end up in a "how to report a bug" page20:35
* unborn speaks native language of your matelko :)20:35
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: not to be an ass, but that does not tell you how? Because other than that, I don't know. I just asked what was the bug so I can maybe tell you how to fix it, but mysql is beyond me20:36
matelko-ntzrmtthihu777- : yes, with gksudo I can write the files on partitions. How to fix it to be like that after system boot? thank you.20:36
nfdHey folks, I've got a quick question.20:36
nfdI'm about to set up a box with FDE (probably with this method: https://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/20:37
nfd).20:37
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: what you trying to do exactly?20:37
kurteknikk@ntzrmtthihu777 i understand that you think you're being an ass, i don't feel good ending up in that page but not figuring out how i can report a bug ! It's like describing everything apart from my "type of bug"20:37
nfdSomeone mentioned some sort of tech that stores the keys in the cpu so they are immediately wiped upon shutdown, what was it called?20:38
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: I'm sorry but I can not be much help in this. do you have a launchpad account?20:38
matelko-ntzrmtthihu777-  before I repartioned my disk, my old partitions was automatically mounted as rw after boot. But now not. I want them to mount rw automatically after boot.20:38
tgm4883kurteknikk, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?20:38
kurteknikk@ntzrmtthihu777 yes, and i reported a bug for innobackupex before and it was very simple, but strangely enough for ubuntu looks like much more complicated20:38
kurteknikk@ntzrmtthihu777 yes, that's the page i'm ending up in20:39
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: sudo chown $USER:$USER name-of-drive20:39
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ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: I did not send you that, and its easier to just type ntz then tab20:39
tgm4883kurteknikk, what exactly was your question then? That has the steps to report a bug?20:40
matelko-ntzrmtthihu777-  do I need put that command after start every time 12.1 boots or just run it only once?20:40
kurteknikkntzrmtthihu777: sorry my bad, btw i didn't know that trick, thanks :)20:40
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: np, I know my name is a pain to type20:40
yusufhey20:41
mcgraw1710Okay, I am back. I was Guest555 something. I logged out so I could tell you exactly what I see20:41
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: that will change the ownershipt to you permanently, then you can set up automount by editing your fstab20:41
kurteknikktgm4883: my question is how do i report a "memory leak type of bug", because they describe how to report a application crash, system crash etc... but can't find like a "simple way to report a bug" maybe there's not really one... maybe i do have to have the whole procedure to report a bug20:41
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: what was your problem, again20:41
nfdAlso, if anyone knows how to set said software up, said knowledge would be appreciated.20:42
tgm4883kurteknikk, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"20:42
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: I can guide you through that20:42
SonikkuAmericaHumor me: If I were to install OpenIndiana (a FOSS clone of Solaris) alongside Ubuntu, which should I install first?20:42
kurteknikkntzrmtthihu777: to be honest, since you were the only one replying, i just paste it and continue typing...20:43
matelko-ntzrmtthihu777-  ahh, right. Now I see. The ownership was the problem. Thank you for the help :-)20:43
mcgraw1710So when I boot up the PC I see 3 options, ATAPI CD-ROM, Removable Device, and my Computer Hard Drive. When I click on ubuntu to upload I get Try HD0, 0 : NTFS5 : No wubildr20:43
purakipause20:43
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: you used wubi to install it?20:43
mcgraw1710Yeah20:43
SonikkuAmericamcgraw1710: Did you install Ubuntu using Wubi?20:43
nfdFun.20:43
auronandaceSonikkuAmerica: openindiana overwrites the bootloader without warning, placing it's own grub there20:44
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: do you have available a usb stick20:44
mcgraw1710But I don't have a CD Drive on the netbook to burn the iso to, so I used the tool to extract it and use my external hd. I can look.20:44
ntzrmtthihu777kurteknikk: I just like helping ^^20:44
mcgraw1710will that work rather than my external hd?20:44
SonikkuAmericaauronandace: Right. (It still uses GRUB legacy.) So it's better to do OpenIndiana first and then Ubuntu?20:44
auronandaceSonikkuAmerica: yes20:44
SonikkuAmericaauronandace: Thanks20:45
tgm4883kurteknikk, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed20:45
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: Yes, using the usb stick would be the easiest way to do it20:45
kurteknikk_tgm4883: sorry i got disconnected20:45
mcgraw1710okay. Do I just extract ubuntu to that like I did with my hard drive?20:45
tgm4883kurteknikk_, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"20:45
tgm4883kurteknikk_, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed20:46
mcgraw1710and what order do I need to put in the bios for boot?20:46
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: no, you need to go here http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and download the windows version20:46
kurteknikk_tgm4883: yeah my only problem is where can i go to "add a new bug". If you can provide a leak it would be amazing20:46
kurteknikk_tgm4883: i've been going through launchpad/ubuntu but couldn't find the stupid page20:46
ntzrmtthihu777mcgraw1710: using this tool you will "burn" the iso to the usb stick so you can boot from it and install ubuntu20:46
tgm4883kurteknikk_, for mysql?20:47
mcgraw1710okay. I will try that. I will do that and then come back in here and let you know if it worked. Thanks Ntzrmtthihu77720:47
kurteknikk_tgm4883: yes, for the mysql package in ubuntu..20:47
ntzrmtthihu777mcb_:20:47
tgm4883kurteknikk_, Did you run 'ubuntu-bug mysql'? because that should open to the page you need20:48
auronandacekurteknikk_: you could also check to see if the upstream mysql has the same bug20:48
asseshello20:48
auronandacekurteknikk_: also just so you know many distros will begin transitioning to mariadb as a replacement for mysql20:49
tgm4883kurteknikk_, but to do it manually, you could go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql/+filebug20:49
bobkaI'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"? If yes, how? mou20:49
kurteknikk_tgm4883: damn i'm so fkn stupid... first of all i saw the ubuntu-bug command but i thought i shouldn't use that for some reason20:50
kurteknikk_tgm4883: second of all, how did you manage to get that link ??? i searched everywhere !20:50
asseshow i can send a file20:50
ntzrmtthihu777asses: send a file where20:51
enroxorz-workntzrmtthihu777:  truth be told ive been a linux user for ages, just switched over from fedora on this laptop. The UEFI SecureBoot crap was messing my installation. Also, honestly, I don't see all the hubbubb about unity. its a decent desktop UI.20:51
tgm4883kurteknikk_, I figured out the link after I ran "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"20:51
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: gotta hate that20:51
kurteknikk_auronandace: i'm not sure what you mean by the 'upstream mysql'... i'm feeling a bit delayed this evening...20:51
matelko-ntzrmtthihu777-  Thank you very much for your help! My partitions are working like I wanted now.20:51
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: I hates it20:51
tgm4883kurteknikk_, for instance, running 'ubuntu-bug mythbuntu-common' takes you to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-common/+filebug/1526fa10-869f-11e2-94ce-0025b3df357a?20:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 2110 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #1526 Autogenerated forms do not have correct tab order" [High,Fix released]20:52
ntzrmtthihu777matelko: just type ntz then tab, that highlights your message so i can notice it better20:52
kurteknikk_auronandace: btw i know that that's going to be a replacement, i've actually replaced it with mongodb but i still have a server running mysql which i have to maintain of course20:52
assesup20:52
auronandacekurteknikk_: if mysql has its own project page with a bug tracker you could look to see if it was reported there20:52
enroxorz-workntzrmtthihu777:  yeah. really screwed me up BUT I've administered debian servers before and it's not all that different really. Just gotta get used to the UI is all. Also, this touchscreen laptop + gnu paint = ridiculously awesome amateur pornographic drawings.20:52
matelkontzrmtthihu777,  thank you.20:52
ntzrmtthihu777enroxorz-work: Yeah, I got a dell all in one with a pinguy os 12.0420:53
kurteknikk_tgm4883: amazing, great thanks for you help, that's all i needed !20:53
matelkobye20:53
kurteknikk_auronandace: yeah i'm running version 5.5.2920:53
enroxorz-workntzrmtthihu777:  the best part is i no longer have to deal with balsamiq or pencil for my wireframing.20:53
kurteknikk_auronandace: i reported the bug, and they said to try 5.5.30 because they fixed some memory leaks in that version20:54
ElsharHey, how would I find out what flags/arguments/etc a package was compiled with?20:54
kurteknikk_auronandace: so even if it doesn't fix my issue, they still fixed other memory leaks, so i think it's important to be updated as a package in ubuntu20:54
ElsharI want to recompile nagios with some customizations, but I don't want to totally bork my existing install from the apt repo20:54
SuperLagI'm using Xubuntu, and I've got a dual-head setup. I'm trying to get the display settings to be stored, so that when I boot, I have spanning configured, and not mirroring. However, every time I have to reboot, it reverts to mirroring.20:55
auronandacekurteknikk_: good work on reporting20:55
SuperLagHow do I get that to persist?20:55
kurteknikk_auronandace: thanks, usually i don't have enough time to contribute to developing projects, but i try to do my best in bug reporting20:57
glauco291guys,  I am on ubuntu 12.04, I have plugged my new monitor full hd, but ubuntu just show up to 1360x768 of resolution, I just finished to install ATI driver for my video card and rebooted, but I still cannot change to 1920x108020:58
tijstype xrandr20:59
ntzrmtthihu777glauco291: check system tools > administration > Catalyst Control Center (as root)20:59
tijswhat sizes are there?20:59
SonikkuAmericaauronandace: One more thing: If I install Ubuntu after OI, then, will the GRUB that OI has be replaced with GRUB2 or will I have to chainload the GRUB legacy?20:59
glauco291how can I open "system tools" it does not appear in dash21:00
glauco291ntzrmtthihu777: ^21:00
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ntzrmtthihu777oop, lol you are using unity21:00
ntzrmtthihu777ok, seach for control center21:00
tijshe means using gnome221:00
tijsXD21:00
glauco291do you wanna mean system settings ntzrmtthihu777?21:01
ntzrmtthihu777tijs: hey gnome2 whips the shit outta unity. I know where any program I want is, and I don't have to search a fickle dash21:01
ntzrmtthihu777glauco291: no, I meant exactly what I said, I just was thinking of another de]21:02
ntzrmtthihu777*de21:02
xiloi have some stuff like tmux and urxvtd and my xresources sourced on login... how do i do this21:02
IdleOne!language | ntzrmtthihu77721:02
ubottuntzrmtthihu777: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:02
tijshaha I understand that21:02
vmani have a problem with ssh after setting up an ssh tunnel, can anyone help?21:02
auronandaceSonikkuAmerica: yeah, you'll need to chainload openindiana's grub (because of zfs i think)21:02
SonikkuAmericaOK, probably not  worth doing then... esp since OI lacks WPA2 Enterprise support @ this time. Thx anyway21:03
auronandaceSonikkuAmerica: unless you simply want to use openindiana's grub instead21:03
glauco291I am finding "control center" either "administration" either "catalyst"21:04
glauco291I am not** finding...21:04
glauco291I make this way: system settings -> additional drivers > I selected ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics card and clicked in "activate", now it's downloading something21:06
glauco291I made*21:06
Elsharawesome, I found the build log for the package, and was able to find the --configure line :D21:08
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ntzrmtthihu777sorry, lost connection.21:12
Guest50689hi21:12
ntzrmtthihu777if anyone was talking to me about an issue please repeat your last statement21:12
Guest50689i need some advice21:12
Guest50689to start programming ubuntu21:12
ntzrmtthihu777programming what21:12
purakiprogramming language?21:13
bobkantzrmtthihu777> help? installation mount issue. :)21:14
Guest50689yes21:14
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: refresh me, I have been tackling alot of people's issues21:14
bobkaI'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"?21:14
purakiI have an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS system on VirtualBox 4.1.4 on Windows 7 64-bit.21:15
bobkamount fails21:15
ntzrmtthihu777ok, first off what device name does your usb stick have? for example sda1, sdb, etc21:15
purakiWhen I click on the Unity dash, the dash doesn't fade in.21:15
Novusdid you connect to the internet via lan first?21:16
ntzrmtthihu777puraki: you cannot expect full performance under vbox under vbox21:16
ntzrmtthihu777*vbox under windows721:16
Novusi had that problem with ubuntu 9 I had to connect to lan frist and get updates to tuen wifi on21:16
Novusthe updates may also contain drivers for your card too21:17
Novusi think it was a hacking thing they didn't want to be appart of or something21:17
Novusthat work for you?21:18
bobkantzrmtthihu777> assume /dev/sda but would like to confirm. lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:653321:19
ntzrmtthihu777/dev/sda is usually /21:19
auronandacentzrmtthihu777: sda is the disk, not a partition21:19
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: in either case its not the one we are looking for, don't get pedantic21:20
bobkantzrmtthihu777> thks, how do I find it?21:20
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: how many hdd's and/or usb sticks do you have?21:21
purakihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212267021:21
auronandacebobka: launch gparted and identify them21:21
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: did you not listen? he is using ubuntu server, no gui21:21
lantiziaHey on older ubuntu's for a quick speed up you could swap from compiz to metacity with metacity --replace & but if you run that now although it works - unity dissapears - without logging out, how can it stil be achieved>?21:22
tasslehoffI'm sharing a folder with samba. Inside that folder I have an encfs-mountpoint. That one is not visible for people mounting the samba share. I want it to be. Can I?21:22
auronandacentzrmtthihu777: apologies21:22
bobkaI'm working from the install CLI, no gparted21:22
ntzrmtthihu777lantizia: unity is a compiz plugin, you cannot have it without compiz21:22
auronandacebobka: try parted instead then21:22
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: why use software when logic would do it?21:23
bobkanot found21:23
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: how many hdd and usb sticks are currently connected21:23
auronandacebobka: sudo fdisk -l21:23
ozhanozenhella21:24
ozhanozenHow can i install a program in a tar.gz file?21:25
ozhanozenthere is no install file in it21:25
auronandaceozhanozen: normally you don't, compiling should usually be the last resort21:25
bobkaone mirrored raid, 3 usb. stick is (lsusb) Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:653321:25
auronandace!software | ozhanozen21:25
ubottuozhanozen: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents21:25
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: just give me a list lol21:26
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: I could have your answer in 5 minutes if you would listen and ignore auronandace21:26
styler2gohello guys. my server is under very high load right now and i dont know if i have misconfigured something so that it could have much more load.. can someone help me?21:26
bobkantzrmtthihu777> lol21:26
aevin_hello #ubuntu, i have a problem with some /dev/sdxx nodes missing how do I troubleshoot?21:26
paquestion: i read that in 12.04LTS i could tag files in nautilus21:27
pabut in 12.10 i cant find the option. how's that?21:27
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: how. many. drives.21:27
auronandacebobka: do you get any output from: sudo fdisk -l21:27
ozhanozenI need to install kompozer v0.8 . How can i install it? it doesnt have a .deb21:28
ntzrmtthihu777pa: because quantal is precise's retarded cousin21:28
styler2gohttp://snag.gy/sDYnO.jpg this is how "top" looks like and i dont know why its never 100%... is there something i am misisng?21:28
ntzrmtthihu777ozhanozen: sudo apt-get komposer does not do it?21:28
aevin_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/21:28
aevin_but no /dev/sdc1 node exists21:28
bobkantzrmtthihu777> one HW mirrored raid (2 drives) 3 usb - wireless nic, kb, stick.21:29
ntzrmtthihu777styler2go: that is because linux is more efficent than windows21:29
aevin_and dmesg says there is no partition table: http://paste.ubuntu.com/559150121:29
styler2goso?21:29
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styler2goit is under max load but is never 100%?21:29
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: just storage devices, not devices21:30
Guest97010hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd?21:30
bean__styler2go: hit "1" on top and it will show cores21:30
bobkaauronandace> no root needed in install, no fdisk either.21:30
styler2go1?21:31
bean__styler2go: as in, hit the number one, inside of your top terminal21:31
bean__and it will show the % per core.21:31
styler2goyes21:31
bean__styler2go: and those #'s do add up to 100%21:31
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: auronandace is wasting your time.21:31
auronandacebobka: no fdisk? fdisk is installed by default in all ubuntu versions21:31
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: if you only have 2 hdd + the usb stick then it must be either sda, sdb, or sdc. I am guessing sdc.21:32
donavan01is it possible to set ubuntu up so that it will install and boot to a software raid array21:32
styler2gohttp://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html what do you think baout these loads? are they ok or very bad?21:32
ntzrmtthihu777try sudo mkdir /media/usb21:32
bean__styler2go: it depends on how many cores you have21:32
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: then sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/usb21:33
bobkaauronandace> r u trolling? i'm in install!!21:33
styler2goi cant see any core number21:33
auronandacentzrmtthihu777: you mount partitions, not whole devices21:33
bean__styler2go: cat /proc/cpuinfo21:33
bean__styler2go: and it will show you how many cores you have21:33
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: whatever21:33
bean__styler2go: it sounds like you're in a bit over your head :\21:33
styler2go2ghz... 6 cores21:33
styler2gobit over my head?21:34
auronandacebobka: my apologies, i thought it was there21:34
bean__styler2go: as in, you don't know much about doing this sort of things.21:34
styler2goyes21:34
auronandacebobka: it's on my 12.1021:35
styler2goi would buy a better server but i dont think i am using every performance this server could give me21:35
bean__styler2go: a load average of 12 would be fine on your server and it looks like you never go over 1.521:35
bean__styler2go: what do you need a server for anyways21:35
styler2goandroid app21:35
jxshxxStuck trying to install 12.04 with XP.  Need help making a partition for Ubuntu and have a dual boot.21:35
bean__styler2go: I do mine on a shared hosting box, not very expensive21:36
styler2goabout 300-400 users right now at the same time...21:36
k1l_jxshxx: just install win xp. then shrink the win partition and make 2 or 3 new one for ubuntu21:36
bean__hmm21:36
bean__thats really not bad then21:36
ntzrmtthihu777jxshxx: the installer will walk you through it, its easy21:36
styler2gocan i do anything to make my server faster?21:36
styler2goor is there no way?21:36
ntzrmtthihu777styler2go: get better hardware21:37
styler2goso there is no other way? :D21:38
bean__styler2go: you're not high load, it's likely not your server that is slow21:38
styler2gohmm21:38
aevin_hey all... i have a problem mounting my ntfs drive in ubuntu 12.04.  The kernek doesn't find the proper partition table21:38
styler2goare you sure?21:38
aevin_kernel*21:38
auronandacestyler2go: your top output shows over 40% cpu idle21:39
styler2goLoad Average0.92, 1.38, 1.3721:39
Guest97010hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd? (playing without stopping al the time)21:39
ntzrmtthihu777Guest97010: what do you need a command for? use an gui app unless you are on server or something21:39
pantzrmtthihu777, now it's clear :)21:40
Guest97010ntzrmtthihu777: in crontab21:40
styler2gomy complete android app is lagging so hard21:40
ntzrmtthihu777Guest97010: gotcha. let me see about it21:40
styler2gothis morning: one seocnd loading, now: much more than 30 seconds21:40
ntzrmtthihu777i think I got it, do you intend to have the cd always in the drive?21:41
styler2gonow it tells me: Load Average1.27, 1.42, 1.3921:41
Guest97010almost21:41
jxshxxThe installer USED to be easy, and walked you through a slider for partition size.  Now, I get 2 options 1- Use the whole disc or 2 - "Something else", which takes me to a NOT easy page where I am apparently supposed to make a new partition table.21:42
Guest97010ntzrmtthihu777: i want to make a alarmcloc and then put a certain CD into it the evening before21:42
ntzrmtthihu777something like mount then for i in {1..100}; do mplayer /path/to/track1 && /path/to/track2; done and so on so on so forth21:42
ntzrmtthihu777jxshxx: you ever just considered using a virtual box21:43
jxshxxntzrmtthihu777: Yes, but this isn't the right situation for it.21:44
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ntzrmtthihu777jxshxx: what is the situation, then?21:44
Ben64Guest97010: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://21:44
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: will that keep playing?21:44
Ben64it should21:44
Ben64also, the "at" command is handy for alarm clock stuff, Guest9701021:45
Guest97010Ben64, ntzrmtthihu777: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda:// is stopping every second21:45
Ben64every second?21:45
Ben64you're doing something wrong21:45
Guest97010Ben64: yes,21:45
bean__styler2go: you dont understand what load average means21:45
jxshxxntzrmtthihu777: Must maintain XP on an old lappy, dual boot, prove to the owner Linux will work better, THEN install on the whole disc :)21:45
Guest97010i just pasted the comand ...21:46
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bean__styler2go: since you have 6 cores, you could use up to 6.0 load average before it is bad21:46
styler2gobean__, i think i dont..21:46
bean__and even then a load of 12 would be okay21:46
styler2gomaybe i have only one core21:46
styler2goit is a vserver21:46
styler2gomayb ewlimited to one21:46
styler2gomaybe limited*21:46
bean__well, what company did you get it through21:46
bean__/what are you paying for21:47
styler2go12€/month21:47
Guest97010ben64: i just pasted the comand ...21:47
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bean__styler2go: no, i mean, what "plan"21:48
jxshxxntzrmtthihu777: I don't understand where the "Install alongside" option went in the installer menu.  Do you know what I'm talking about?21:48
styler2gowait a second, bean__  ...21:48
nicfQuick question about the installer: I have Windows 8 on this new laptop I'm on, and it came with a couple recovery partitions on it in addition to the big partition Windows is on. If I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8," can I be sure that it will definitely only mess with the big partition?21:48
styler2gothe site is not available in english...21:48
Guest97010Ben64: i just pasted the comand ... with parole etc. it works. so the hardware should at least be capable of it :-D21:48
bean__styler2go: it's okay, i can translate. I speak a bit of german21:48
bobkantzrmtthihu777> no sdc. had to mkdir /media/usb. mount /dev/sdb /media/usb failed : Invalid argument -> (just like the installer.)21:48
ntzrmtthihu777:/21:49
ntzrmtthihu777what a pain.21:49
ntzrmtthihu777 try cd /media21:49
Ben64Guest97010: then add -cache 409621:49
ntzrmtthihu777then ls21:49
nicfThe sizes seem to add up right but I'm nervous about doing something irreversible.21:49
styler2gohttps://www.hosteurope.de/Server/Virtual-Server/Virtual-Server-L/21:49
bobkaI assume I can't see file on stick until its mounted?21:49
bean__styler2go: okay, that doesn't tell me how many virtual cores21:50
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: just see what is inside of /media21:50
styler2goyes, there are no more informations21:50
styler2goonly the xxl server uses dedicated cores21:50
bobkausb21:51
bean__styler2go: oh, you have XXL21:51
styler2gono i dont habe21:51
Guest97010Ben64: still :-S the first time was 2 seconds21:51
styler2goi just said only xxl uses dedicated cores...21:51
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: well, this is getting to be a pain21:51
Guest97010Ben64: Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.21:51
Ben64Guest97010: then go crazy. -cache 1638421:51
bobkanothing in usb, though. :(21:51
bean__styler2go: okay, so you have the L, then you have a small amount of CPU, you would seriously be better off on shared hosting21:51
styler2goshared hosting? like amazon c3?21:52
Guest97010Ben64: Cache not responding! [performance issue]21:52
auronandacebobka: you don't mount devices (sdb), you mount partitions (sdb1)21:52
bobkaLOL Welcome to my nightmare!21:52
bean__styler2go: no21:52
Ben64Guest97010: are you running it on a toaster?21:52
bean__styler2go: does this do anything other than have a webserver and a database21:52
styler2gowhat do you mean?21:52
Guest97010Ben64: the laptop is from 2006 or newer, designed for vista21:53
bean__styler2go: i mean on some shared hosting provider.  You also may consider paying for more resources.  Theres not much that can be done for a cheap VPS like that21:53
styler2gowhats a shared hosting provider? :o21:53
Ben64Guest97010: well keep adjusting cache till it works21:54
bobkaauronandace> I'll bite. brb...21:54
bean__styler2go: like a thing where its a big server, with many other people on it.21:54
Guest97010Ben64: does it make sence with "Cache not responding! [performance issue]" ?21:54
bean__styler2go: what software runs your app21:54
n0aG0reI'm having problems keeping login passwords and proprietary drivers persistant on my persistant usb. Anyone here that can help?21:54
Ben64Guest97010: never seen that21:55
styler2goyou mean serverside or what my app is fore?21:55
aevin_i'm unable to mount my 3TB ntfs drive.  Anyone here that can help?21:55
ntzrmtthihu777bobka: do you have lynx installed?21:55
Guest97010Ben64: perhaps i have to stay at the bad mp3s :-S and creating new playlists if i want another CD21:55
bobkaauronandace> THANKS!21:56
Ben64Guest97010: why are mp3s bad?21:56
bean__styler2go: server side21:56
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: lesser quality of sound at times21:56
styler2goits php and mysql21:56
auronandacebobka: is sdb your usb then?21:56
Guest97010Ben64: becourse they are from youtube -live, bad upload quality etc.21:56
Ben64ntzrmtthihu777: not noticeable at high bitrate21:56
bean__styler2go: yeah, not very heavy weight. You might try optimizing your mysql database though21:57
Ben64Guest97010: why not rip your cds then?21:57
bobkastep 1 - mount file complete.21:57
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: I said at times. perhaps his are not high.21:57
styler2goi already did :)21:57
styler2goshow process wont show anything executing long21:57
bobkaauronandace>  yeah21:57
auronandacebobka: goody21:57
Guest97010Ben64: have to find out how etc.21:57
warfareni want to add a boot parameter to "kopt" in /boot/grub/menu.lst but i don't have that file. i'm running ubuntu 10.0421:57
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warfareni assume it's a newer version of grub that has the file somewhere else, so where do i add it in?21:57
Ben64Guest97010: k3b can21:57
auronandace!grub2 | warfaren21:58
ubottuwarfaren: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:58
bean__styler2go: looks like plenty of free memory too, its a native android app on the frontend too, yeah?21:58
warfarenit's grub2? because i'm quite sure it says 1.98 when im booting21:58
auronandacewarfaren: yeah, thats grub221:58
warfarenoh, i thought it would be 2.something21:58
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styler2gowhats native for you? its mostly java, only the chat (which seems to cause the heavy load) is html + ajax21:59
auronandacewarfaren: i don't understand gnu's numbering either21:59
Guest97010Ben64: also have a comuter with xp and mediaplayer ... but then i still have to make the playlist every time and replace the old one instead of just putting another CD into it21:59
warfarenalright..21:59
aevin_Why would the kernel in 12.04 not be able to detect a partition but Windows can?21:59
bean__styler2go: native means java. The HTML + ajax will likely always be slow.21:59
bean__styler2go: cell networks are pretty slow22:00
Ben64aevin_: kernels don't detect partitions22:00
styler2goits only laggy right now22:00
coder2what is channel for dev?22:00
styler2goon normal days the server is completly ok22:00
warfarenauronandace: those links had nothing on "kopt", so i need to edit something under /etc/grub.d/ ? i've looked there and it was messy22:00
bobkaThnks for the help all. I'm going to copy rt73.bin to lib/firmware, umount usb, and backup the install to 'detect network hardware.'22:01
aevin_Ben64: what detects partitions?  i see messages in dmesg... i thought that was the kernel's log?22:01
bean__styler2go: i dont know that I can really help you, you might want to pay for a better server.22:01
styler2gothe problem is22:01
Ben64aevin_: its complicated, whats your problem?22:01
styler2goi dont know how its called in english22:01
styler2gothe server only have very high load an specific days and hours22:02
bean__styler2go: that is common with many servers.22:02
bean__styler2go: and 1-4 ish load isn't super high22:02
styler2gomost time the server is bored :D22:02
ozhanozenhey22:02
warfarenaha, found it. thanks for making me understand that i'm running grub2 and not grub1, that helped me a long way22:02
ozhanozenhow can i install kompozer on ubuntu 12.10 64 bit22:02
ozhanozenplease help22:02
aevin_Ben64: I have a 3TB internal sata drive that has a gpt partition table and a single ntfs partition. fdisk shows the partition as /dev/sdc1 but there is no /dev/sdc1 node22:02
styler2goit is showing me a red ! on the left of the load22:03
AnotherPersonaHello! I am trying to install a ros (robot operating system) package and it apparently depends on an old version of boost22:03
bean__styler2go: yeah, so only slow when many people are connecting. Have you looked at the your apache max processes? and your max connections for mysql?22:03
AnotherPersonaso I get a bunch of unmet dependencies22:03
styler2gobean__, now its Load Average2.17, 2.08, 1.8422:03
aevin_Ben64: without the device node I can't mount it22:03
bean__styler2go: thats still not very high22:03
Ben64ozhanozen: sudo apt-get install kompozer22:03
rats_ozhanozen: have you checked to see if Kompozer is in the repos22:03
Ben64aevin_: check in gparted or parted, fdisk doesn't do gpt22:04
styler2gobit why is there a red ! then?22:04
AnotherPersonacan anyone suggest how to 'fake out' the package to use the newer version of boost? or something22:04
bean__styler2go: i have a 4 core server that loads sites just fine up to about a load of 20.22:04
styler2gomaybe my vserver is limited to that load?22:04
rats_that should work too22:04
bean__styler2go: it very well could be.22:04
aevin_Ben64: parted /dev/sdc print says: Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label22:05
styler2gobean__, i found something: http://snag.gy/DR4uh.jpg22:05
Ben64aevin_: thats not good22:05
bean__styler2go: so 1 cpu. so a load of 2 is going to start feeling the pain22:06
bean__styler2go: i suggest you upgrade22:06
aevin_Ben64: indeed. the drive works fine in windows22:06
styler2goLoad Average2.4, 2.41, 2.0222:06
styler2gouhm22:06
aevin_Ben64: Also a similar line in dmesg: [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table22:07
styler2gobean__, i would just need a better cpu, right?22:08
bean__styler2go: probably.22:08
Ben64aevin_: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdc22:08
styler2goi will write a ticket if they can do anything for me22:08
styler2goi dont need more than 50gh storage.. and 2gb ram22:09
Juanito_Fulenciawhat line should i add to "/etc/default/grub" to remove the entry for testing ram for the list?22:10
styler2gobean__, thank you for your help!22:10
bean__np, styler2go22:10
aevin_Ben64: Package gdisk is not available, but is referred to by another package.22:10
Juanito_Fulenciagoogle was not exactly friendly with me in the matter.22:10
aevin_Ben64: E: Package 'gdisk' has no installation candidate22:10
Ben64aevin_: uh, what version of ubuntu are you on22:11
aevin_12.0422:11
Ben64!info gdisk precise22:11
ubottugdisk (source: gdisk): GPT fdisk text-mode partitioning tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1-1build1 (precise), package size 306 kB, installed size 655 kB22:11
Ben64its there22:11
bobkantzrmtthihu777 & auronandace> FYI - install picked up the wireless NIC. Now I have a netwoked server. Thanks!22:11
bobka*networked22:12
aevin_Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591633/22:12
SoundmanIrc gnu community is bigger than i expected O.o nice to know, ill have some fun when @work22:12
aevin_Ben64: I'm booted into a liveusb22:12
Ben64oh..22:13
Ben64why22:13
Ben64and it should still work there22:13
aevin_because this machine needs to dual boot into windows22:13
auronandace!yay | bobka22:13
ubottubobka: Glad you made it! :-)22:13
aevin_and without working disks... liveusb is safest option just now22:14
ntzrmtthihu777how do you use the ubuntu version of unetbootin to install to hdd22:14
art1is there a list of devices that are compatible with 12.04?22:16
auronandace!hcl | art122:17
ubottuart1: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection22:17
art1I'm only curios cuz when looking at say newegg.com, devices are listed with windows and MacOS but don't say anything about linux22:20
SoundmanOn Ubuntu official site should be list like u are searching for22:21
fidelapart from that list - i almost never had issues installing ubuntu on whatever x86 hardware22:22
SoundmanCause?22:23
fidelso in general it usualy works - with minor issues - but usualy you'll be able to find workarounds & fixes for those isses. generaly spoken22:23
Soundmangeneral i hadnt any problems too at all22:23
art1kk, ty22:24
SoundmanBy the way, have anybody any ideas to make lxde faster at all ? On netbook what im using at work it still sloooowww22:25
Soundman12.04 on atom and 1gb ram isnt to fast.22:25
pwarfHey guys, I've got a question. I keep trying to install 12.04 alongside windows with the downloader from Ubuntu22:26
pwarfAnd, it keeps giving me the "uncompression failed, system halted" error22:26
SoundmanTry to download iso file and use unetbotin22:27
bobkaOnce this install is complete, I'll be back. The display I'm forced to use is ancient (1991 - pre-VESA2). I've good in Knoppix Live-CD, but my grub kung-fu is weak.22:27
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gp5stSorry if this isn't the place #openssl is pretty dead and I thought someone here might be knowledgeable. When an SSL/X.509 certificate is renewed, e.g. before it expires, does the fingerprint of the certificate stay the same? Does one need to use the same csr as the first time to get the same fingerprint? Will the fingerprint always change.  Is there any identifier based solely on the key itself?22:32
k1l_gp5st: if you know its offtopic better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic from the start22:33
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gp5stk1l_: it's not relevant to ubuntu specifically, but its still related to sysadmining, so I didn't think I would be breaking the spirit of the channel22:35
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xilohow do i get any de/wm  .xinit or similar on gnome3 to get run?22:43
XSevenXHello.22:50
XSevenXI finally have a copy of Windows 7 and I'm looking to install it22:50
XSevenXhow can I clear my hard drive of all data to make a fresh installation of this OS?22:50
tgm4883!windows | XSevenX22:51
ubottuXSevenX: For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents22:51
XSevenXtgm4883 this has nothing to do with Windows22:51
XSevenXI want to completely clear my hard drive22:51
aevin_Ben64: I got gdisk working http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/22:51
tgm4883XSevenX, so?22:51
tgm4883XSevenX, installing windows does completely wipe the hard drive22:52
XSevenXand I doubt the #windows IRC will tell me how to remove Linux software within Linux, smart ass.22:52
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tgm4883XSevenX, just install windows. It will wipe the hard drive22:52
XSevenXOkay, thanks.22:53
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IdleOneXSevenX: mind the language and attitude please. To answer your question, put the windows CD and have it format the entire drive, more help in ##windows22:53
deadweaselcan I reconnect my terminal to a process that has a CLI, but I don't have that window open anymore?22:54
aevin_Why can't I mount this disk? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/22:55
IboSdeadweasel use screen ?22:55
deadweaseli am.22:55
hector__anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?22:55
hector__I tried all likely names22:55
hector__or many22:55
deadweaselIboS: I'll double check see if I missed it in screen -ls22:55
IboSdeadweasel screen -r to reattach22:56
hector__anyone knows of a 3d modelling group?22:56
hector__my channels window freezes every time, so I cant search22:56
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deadweaselIboS: yup, I missed it, just had to specifically reconnect to it.22:57
deadweaseli thought screen -RR reconnected all possibles?22:57
aevin_Why can't I mount my 3TB SATA ntfs disk in 12.04?22:57
Eric_help22:58
Eric_im trying to upgrade from9.04 to a newer release22:58
Eric_ can someone please help22:59
hector__anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?23:00
LargePrimehello.  I have a hosted ubuntu server that i would like a very light weight gui for.  connecting from a win machine23:00
aevin_i think i have discovered a bug in Ubuntu23:01
ntzrmtthihu777LargePrime: I hear xfce is light23:01
Lachesissgdisk or gdisk or gptfdisk or fdisk for creating a gpt partition table?23:01
LargePrimethat is a full desktop, right?23:01
LargePrimeand yes i hear linus has chosen that23:02
LargePrimeI just want to remote in with a super light weight gui23:02
tgm4883!old | Eric_23:02
ntzrmtthihu777LargePrime: yeah, the whole #! from what I hear23:02
nuno_nunesLachesis: the gparted works to GPT23:02
tgm4883hmm23:02
tgm4883!unsupported | Eric_23:02
tgm4883!oldreleases | Eric_23:03
* tgm4883 googles23:03
ntzrmtthihu777tgm4883: he is trying to upgrade, geeze23:03
tgm4883ntzrmtthihu777, yes, and there are instructions for upgrading from old unsupported releases23:03
kalenjohnsonI have a lightdm.log file that has jumped up to 60gb... anyone heard of that?23:04
aevin_hey all. what do i do if i think i've found a kernel bug?23:04
ntzrmtthihu777Eric_: may as well just do a fresh install, hope you used a separate /home partition, because quite frankly upgrading in-install bites23:04
tgm4883!EOL23:04
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:04
tgm4883!EOL | ntzrmtthihu777 Eric_23:05
ubottuntzrmtthihu777 Eric_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:05
tgm4883oh, apparently he left before we started helping him23:06
tgm4883:/23:06
aevin_Can you help me instead? ;)23:07
tgm4883aevin_, did you file a bug report?23:07
aevin_I am very new to this so want to be sure I'm not just doing something wrong...23:07
k1l_!bug | aevin_23:08
tgm4883aevin_, so whats going on23:08
ubottuaevin_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:08
ntzrmtthihu777tgm4883: don'tcha point that at me23:08
tgm4883ntzrmtthihu777, just showing you what I was looking for23:08
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aevin_tgm4883: i have a system with a 3tb sata drive connected internally.  the drive it gpt and has a single ntfs partition.  windows sees the drive without problems, ubuntu doesn't23:09
aevin_tgm4883: fdisk shows the partition, gdisk does not23:09
tgm4883aevin_, sounds like you need to install the ntfs stuff i guess23:10
tgm4883!ntfs | aevin_23:10
ubottuaevin_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE23:10
maxb#ubuntu-devel23:11
maxboops23:11
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aevin_tgm4883: no. ntfs-3g is installed but it wouldn't metter if it wasn't as gdisk doesn't even see a partition23:11
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tgm4883aevin_, not sure, I don't have any NTFS drives that large23:12
aevin_tgm4883: output of gdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/23:12
aevin_tgm4883: and output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591501/23:12
aevin_tgm4883: line 810 is interesting [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table23:13
aevin_tgm4883: but fdisk (which I understand doesn't support gpt) can see the partition: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/23:13
aevin_all very odd23:14
tgm4883aevin_, a quick search shows people have that drive working in ubuntu23:15
tgm4883aevin_, is that an internal drive, or did you stick it in an enclosure?23:15
bekksaevin_: Create a valid partition table, done.23:16
aevin_tgm4883: internal on the SB700 southbridge of my motherboard23:16
tgm4883aevin_, is there anything on the drive?23:16
aevin_bekks: windows thinks there is a valid partition table23:17
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aevin_tgm4883: yes - lots of data that I need to keep.  if it was an empty drive i'd have put ext3/4 on it already23:18
bekksaevin_: use parted instead of fdisk to view the partition table.23:19
tgm4883aevin_, what version of ubuntu23:19
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aevin_bejjs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591766/23:19
aevin_sorry... bekks*23:19
jhutchins_wkaevin_: Do you have ntfs3g installed?23:20
aevin_tgm4883: 12.0423:20
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kalenjohnsonso apparently lightdm.log grew to 60gb because I was under a brute force attack. Fun!23:20
bekksjhutchins_wk: ntfs3g will nbot help at all at this point determining the partitions on that drive23:20
jhutchins_wkPerhaps we are getting lost in unnecessary details if he just wants to use the drive.23:21
aevin_jhutchins_wk: ntfs-3g 2012.1.15AR.5 external FUSE 29 - Third Generation NTFS Driver23:21
tgm4883jhutchins_wk, ntfs3g is for write support, not read23:21
bekksjhutchins_wk: So you intend to say that there might be a fs on the entire disk, instead in a partition.23:21
aevin_windows reports that there is a small amount of "reserved" space at the beginning of the disk and then the remainder is a single partition of aprox 2.7TiB23:22
aevin_this is a gpt disk23:23
tgm4883aevin_, you said 'gdisk -l /dev/sdc' doesn't see it at all?23:24
Bray90820can anyone help me add ubuntu to my grub meny23:25
Bray90820menu23:25
aevin_tgm4883: gdisk sees the disk but no partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/23:25
Ben64aevin_: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc count=1024 of=/dev/shm/sdc; file /dev/shm/sdc23:25
tolewenas23:25
aevin_Ben64: what does that command do?23:26
bekksInteresting approach - using /dev/shm :)23:26
Ben64copies the first 524288 bytes to /dev/shm and has file examine it23:26
aevin_ben64: and what is /dev/shm?23:26
Ben64bekks: it'll go away by itself on reboot :)23:26
Ben64aevin_: ram space23:27
aevin_ok...23:27
aevin_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591779/23:27
osolusI need to cram a live cd with support for a very old wireless pci card from netgear that will also fit on a rewritable 709mb cd. Where should I look.23:28
kalenjohnsonosolus, are you talking Ubuntu specific?23:28
packetfrogI did a sudo apt-get remove compiz   and purge     and now I cant reinstall do to broken packages   how do I fix this?  I tried -f install   and synaptic23:28
osoluskalenjohnson: no, anything will do.23:29
xilois there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?23:29
Ben64aevin_: i dunno, windows must do weird gpt stuff23:29
elisa87do you know what I should do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591784/23:29
kalenjohnsonosolus, Well I don't know about your specific driver compatibility... but there are lots of smaller distros. puppy linux, crunchbang, uhh... most anything with openbox23:29
Bray90820anyone wanna help me add ubuntu to a system that has ubuntu installed but to grub menu item for ubuntu23:29
tgm4883!grub | Bray9082023:30
ubottuBray90820: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:30
Bray90820is ubottu a bot23:30
aevin_Ben64: Probably but I'm stuck with it for a while23:30
Ben64aevin_: would you be able to back up stuff and repartition the drive with good gpt?23:31
Bray90820tgm4883 i have two linux distros android and ubuntu but ubuntu is not listed23:31
Bray90820only android is23:31
aevin_Ben64: unfortunately it's the largest drive I have which makes doing a backup a bit of a mission23:32
eduardo__Hello!23:32
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: yes, she is a bot23:32
eduardo__I found a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965)23:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1063965 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Choppy sound in 12.10" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:32
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Bray90820ok23:32
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: so what is your problem23:33
Bray90820ubuntu is now shown in my grub menu23:33
eduardo__I'm with a problem caused by this bug! When I put the volume at 100% it is oscillating wildly!23:33
Bray90820i have 2 linux distros ubuntu and adroid23:33
aevin_So what's the concensus here? is this a bug, a duff drive or pilot error?23:34
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: so how is that a problem?23:34
Bray90820ubuntu is not shown in my grub menu23:34
Bray90820enetho it's installed23:34
ntzrmtthihu777oh, you said now last time23:35
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 i actually said it earlier but don't worry about it :p23:35
ntzrmtthihu777ok, try booting a live ubuntu cd, adding the yannubuntu ppa and installing boot-repair and run it, it should fix you up in a jiffy23:36
eduardo__--'23:36
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 i should note that android was what installed grub23:37
Bray908200.9723:37
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: ubuntu uses grub1.99, so you should install that.23:37
Bray90820well that is actually installed just not active at the moment23:38
Bray90820i can use that23:38
maveasQUESTION Is it safe to BL bluetooth, bnep and rfcomm? I don't need bluetooth on my desktop. :)23:38
Bray90820but android doesn't show up in that menu23:38
elisa87why am I receiving this error? hg: unknown command 'qclone'23:38
ntzrmtthihu777boot-repair should sort you23:38
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 your saying android will be listen if i use boot repare?23:39
Bray90820i'll brb ping me if you wanna tell me something23:40
Matt1435Hello #ubuntu community.  I'm trying to install the OS for the first time, and have already run into issues.  I'm hoping someone can assist.23:40
maveasMatt1435: Just ask :)23:41
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: likely23:41
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: what install medium23:41
Matt1435installing the desktop LTS version onto a prentium 4 dell23:42
Matt1435*pentium23:42
xilois there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?23:42
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: from cd or usb23:42
Matt1435cd23:42
ntzrmtthihu777xilo: like a different terminal? or a different shell?23:42
xilontzrmtthihu777: a different terminal23:42
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: what is wrong23:43
ntzrmtthihu777xilo: do you want to use like xterm or something?23:43
Matt1435install worked fine and I can get to the login screen, but once I log in, I essentially have a blank background.  No top menu bar, no launcher on the left.  I can right click and create a file or folder, but that's it23:43
xiloi want to use urxvt but it doesn't create a shortcut icon or anything23:43
Ben64Matt1435: select "Ubuntu 2D" when logging in23:43
Matt1435tried that - same issue23:43
Ben64hmm23:43
ntzrmtthihu777xilo: run gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop23:44
Matt1435the computer is about 8 years old, but has 4gb of ram and an nvidia graphics card that's maybe 5 years old23:44
ntzrmtthihu777xilo: edit the line that says exec= to run whatever command launches the terminal you want23:44
xiloah cool thanks23:44
Matt1435I assume that is sufficiently powerful23:44
Ben64Matt1435: you might want to try xfce or lxde23:45
Matt1435i tried reinstalling the OS a second time, but same issue23:45
Matt1435what are those?23:45
Ben64different desktop environments23:45
aidencamoHello. I was wondering if anybody could answer a quick question I have about Wubi? My system is a Windows 8 system that was upgraded from Windows 7. If I use Wubi to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, would it use the Windows 8 bootloader or would it use grub?23:45
Ben64as opposed to unity, which the default ubuntu install is23:45
elisa87do  you know where Mercurial.ini is located? >?23:45
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: differnt versions of ubuntu in essence. look for xubuntu or lubuntu23:46
bcbc2Matt1435: have you tried nomodeset?23:46
Ben64aidencamo: why would you do 10.04? 12.04 is out23:46
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 when i installed android next to ubuntu without installing the android grub i ran sudo update grub and android di not show up23:46
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: I find lubuntu to be nice23:46
Matt1435bcbc2: i have not - what is nomodeset23:46
bcbc2aidencamo: Wubi uses the windows bootloader and grub23:46
bcbc2!nomodeset23:46
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:46
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: because maybe he has reasons23:46
aidencamoAwesome. So if I install 10.04, it'll co-exist with Windows 8 nicely?23:46
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: update grub or update-grub?23:47
escottaidencamo, probably not easily23:47
Ben6410.04 is only supported for another month :|23:47
Matt1435ubottu: how can I change that parameter?  I can't even get the terminal screen to appear23:47
ubottuMatt1435: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:47
Ben64doesn't make any sense to install 10.04 anymore23:47
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: at the grub menu hit e23:47
bcbc2Matt1435: check out that thread linked to.23:48
Matt1435grub menu?23:48
ntzrmtthihu777then add nomodeset or whatever it is to the end23:48
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, you did not see one as it booted? gives 4 choices by default23:48
ntzrmtthihu777Matt1435: normal, recovery, and 2 memtests23:48
bcbc2Matt1435: hold down the Shift key when you boot and it will show the grub menu23:48
Matt1435ok, thanks23:49
Matt1435I will try this23:49
Matt1435thank you very much, everyone23:49
Matt1435much appreciated!23:49
bobolopoliselisa87: Mercurial.ini is the config file on Windows.  In Linux, it'll be .hgrc in your home directory.23:49
aidencamoMy reasons for 10.04 are simple, 12.10 is nice, but my battery lasts about twenty minutes max. 10.04 feels slightly snappier and lighter on system resources. Even though my laptop is quad core, coupled with 6gb of ram and a pretty snappy GPU.23:49
bcbc2Matt1435: np23:49
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Ben64aidencamo: 12.04 is just as snappy if you don't use 3d unity23:50
Guest43280o23:50
Ben64aidencamo: and like i said, 10.04 is only supported for another month, then you'll have to upgrade anyway23:50
aidencamoWhat's missing from 12.04 compared to 12.10?23:50
ntzrmtthihu777aidencamo: yeah, re-install gnome-shell and it will look and feel just like 10.04, and be supported23:50
ntzrmtthihu777aidencamo: a whole lotta fail23:50
Ben64aidencamo: slightly newer versions of stuff?23:50
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 i did sudo update-grub23:51
Ben64i always stick with LTS releases. less updating.23:51
aidencamoRight, will do. I heard that the kernal on 12.10 was quite shit compared to previous versions anyway. Thanks for your help.23:51
ntzrmtthihu777aidencamo: besides, 12.04 has 5-year support, where 12.10 only 1.523:51
Guest43280does any 1 know how to hack into porn sites23:51
Ben64Guest43280: not appropriate for this channel23:52
ntzrmtthihu777Guest43280: wth lol23:52
Guest43280fuck u and what is this channel 423:52
Guest43280?23:52
steamboxGuest43280: pr0n hacks you, in .....23:52
ntzrmtthihu777wanna ops him23:53
Ben64Guest43280: watch the  language, and look at the topic23:53
VanessaEI got no answer in #xubuntu, so I'll try here:  I've just done a re-install of my system (getting ready for some hardware upgrades), and can no longer turn on RGB subpixel antialiasing without experiencing heavy color fringing.  What did I do wrong? (using Xubuntu Precise)23:53
Guest43280nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo23:53
Guest43280hay whats ur guys ip address23:53
Guest43280hey23:54
bekksGuest43280: 127.0.0.123:54
Ben64Guest43280: if you don't have a support question, please leave23:54
Guest43280noooooo i could hack all of u23:54
Guest43280do u want to c it23:54
ntzrmtthihu777Ben64: he's a hard-ball, he aint goin nowhere on his own23:54
dakotawulfyhi23:54
Guest43280 u know what ur getting hacked23:55
ntzrmtthihu777Guest43280: unlikely.23:55
ntzrmtthihu777if you can't even get into a porn site you def aint getting into my box23:55
Ben64ntzrmtthihu777: don't feed the trolls23:55
Guest43280i was just kidding23:55
VanessaEanyone? :(23:58
LovCAPONEQ: NVidia GeForce GTS 250 supported by Linux Ubuntu? (In the NVidia driver list I didn't see it)23:58
Ben64LovCAPONE: yep23:58
Bray90820ntzrmtthihu777 when i was using the ubuntu grub with android installed i ran sudo update-grub and android didn't show up23:58
LovCAPONEBen64: Thanks!23:59
ntzrmtthihu777hmm, is the partition mounted?23:59
Bray90820the android partition?23:59
bobolopolisVanessaE: are you using a different video driver after the reinstall? otherwise, i have no idea23:59
ntzrmtthihu777Bray90820: yeah23:59
VanessaEbobolopolis: nope, same old driver as always.23:59
VanessaE(fglrx)23:59

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