=== wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [00:02] my my, there's plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth because of Mir [00:02] why's everyone so upset? [00:02] sooo im trying to make my mac into a ubuntu computer but when i try to boot from the usb stick i made after i click intall ubuntu it just stays at a blank screen [00:03] its very frustrating [00:03] has anyone else had this problem [00:03] belgianguy: I haven't studied Mir in a lot of depth: I'm just hoping that it doesn't end up pushing me into a tiled-or-fullscreen setup on my desktop the way it is on my phone or on Windows 8. I'm a diehard multiwindow multitasker [00:04] MoPac: as am I, but the little preview I saw was a tablet interface and something running Unity inside of mir [00:05] <__dan__> belgianguy: probably because canonical have a reputation of being slightly arrogant (unity, anyone?) and seem to like going off doing their own thing rather than play with others [00:06] <__dan__> see also: upstart [00:06] <__dan__> hehe [00:07] belgianguy: Right, but what I'm wondering is: is Canonical going to make it either resource- or configuration-intensive or app-breaking for me to run a standard old-school desktop at some point? [00:07] Hola [00:07] belgianguy: case in point: ideally, I would want to run Cinnamon rather than Unity. But because I have to layer it on top of all the other Ubuntu stuff that is meant to hook into Unity, it's actually such a nightmare in terms of both config and resource use that I have just ended up using Unity instead. [00:07] I'm apprehensive that I might end up pushed through the same experience in a more dramatic way of Ubuntu goes the way of Windows 8 and ends up super determined to make my 16.4-inch screen experience the same as my 4-inch screen experience [00:07] *if Ubuntu [00:08] I'm running 10.04 LTS, will I break anything horribly if I uninstall the synaptic libc6 and manually install version 2.15+? [00:08] !ot | belgianguy, MoPac, __dan__ [00:08] belgianguy, MoPac, __dan__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [00:08] <__dan__> thank the lord for KDE, eh? ;) [00:08] DAL|Desktop: Yes. [00:09] bekks, I'll need to update to the lastest LTS to install Steam then? [00:09] DAL|Desktop: Yes. [00:09] Thanks. [00:10] DAL|Desktop, yes, you need at least 12.04 in order to run steam [00:10] ubuntu plays windows game well?? [00:11] !wine | zimzum77 [00:11] zimzum77: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [00:11] <__dan__> zimzum77: I was just playing fallout 2 on my kubuntu machine earlier :) [00:12] NICE, i'm waitn for simcity, which i think is tomorrow [00:12] zimzum77, the new sim city will have a linux version yes [00:12] <__dan__> in the meantime, there are a couple of open source simcity variants you might like to try :) [00:12] Is there any GUI for devilspie2? The set_viewport function on devilspie seems to be totally broken, and I've run out of ideas after doing window rules in Compiz turned out to be hellish [00:13] really?? i'll have to go look [00:13] and them are open source too? === Guest48399 is now known as sweettea [00:13] <__dan__> yeah i think it's called lincity [00:13] <__dan__> originally enough :) [00:13] <__dan__> not sure whether the monster is a 40-foot penguin though [00:13] Hey guys how do I set a global ulimit for no of file descriptors ? [00:13] hhaha WUT?? [00:14] <__dan__> haha just saying, if i coded it, the monster would definitely be a 40-foot penguin [00:14] LOL nice [00:14] <__dan__> and it would only stomp on windows users [00:14] : ) [00:14] <__dan__> haha [00:14] __dan__, we are talking about this :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCity_%282013_video_game%29 [00:14] YES!! [00:15] kostkon, YUP :) that is it [00:15] <__dan__> yeah i meant this http://freecode.com/projects/lincity-ng [00:17] that looks cool i'll give it a try [00:18] <__dan__> been a while since i played a game like that === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [00:18] hola [00:19] <__dan__> prefer the counterstrike series and star trek online :) [00:19] Necesito ayuda para usar ubuntu server [00:19] Ya lo tengo instalado, pero que hago ahora. [00:19] <__dan__> sorry classic no habla espanol [00:19] zimzum77, fyi, the original sim city is in the repos [00:19] !info micropolis [00:19] micropolis (source: micropolis-activity): real-time city management simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.20071228-5 (quantal), package size 349 kB, installed size 824 kB [00:20] nice [00:20] : ) [00:20] Does it have angry Wright? [00:20] i have install ubuntu server, but not understand how work [00:20] <__dan__> i had the first simcity on the amiga but for me, the proper one was simcity 2000 [00:20] Apes, no clue :( [00:20] Omg. [00:20] kostkon: holy crap [00:21] It have been years since I used irc. [00:21] lol [00:21] Random832, :P [00:21] nostalgia :) [00:21] Indeed. [00:21] <__dan__> having quite a retro moment in here tonight :) [00:22] hello everyone \o/ [00:22] <__dan__> lets all manually set our IRQs with jumpers [00:22] <__dan__> eheh [00:22] Hello! :D [00:22] <__dan__> hi caravel [00:22] Are there known issues with latest updates of libssl/openssl/whatever is using Evolution to validate server certs on... 10.04 ? :) [00:23] I get these in loops immediately after applying updates http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-yh1962 [00:23] so i just installed another linux disto alongside ubuntu 12.04 how would i update grub so i can boot the other one [00:23] __dan__: i found a package which does the job of tuning the powertop tunables automatically at booting. laptop-mode-tools it is. [00:23] __dan__: requires no configuration at all [00:23] [...] (both providers, Free.fr and Gmail.com) [00:23] <__dan__> awesome p0s :) thanks for taking the time to let me know :) [00:24] __dan__: you helped me as well :) [00:25] <__dan__> cool just having a look at it now :) [00:25] <__dan__> caravel: i wonder if your trusted root certificates are out of date or something [00:25] <__dan__> caravel: the error message doesnt really tell you much :/ [00:25] anyone know how i would update grub to see my other linux partitions [00:26] __dan__: well, it says the signature isn't valid [00:26] __dan__: and I'd doubt my old mother suddenly got the victim of a MITM attack right at the time I updated the stuff :) [00:27] <__dan__> hahaha [00:27] from the dpkg log: [00:27] 2013-03-05 23:25:29 upgrade openssl 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.14 [00:27] 2013-03-05 23:23:50 upgrade libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.14 [00:27] (and no particular errors) [00:28] evolution itself wasn't upgraded [00:28] retro, i see in game some OLD SCHOOL SNES!! [00:28] Bray90820, ideally, `sudo update-grub`, but that assumes there's OSes on the other partitions. [00:29] um is there any mods here? [00:29] TheLordOfTime there is [00:29] or some one that really want to help some one.. [00:29] i installed android [00:29] <__dan__> caravel: my guess is, there will be another update in a few days, and that error message will disappear ;) [00:30] i already tried sudo update-grub and grub doesn't even popup when i restart [00:30] __dan__: huh, that's first time I see such thing on a LTS [00:30] * caravel was lucky maybe ? :) [00:30] <__dan__> haha thats one way of looking at it :) [00:30] __dan__: and... is 10.04 still getting sec updates? [00:30] <__dan__> caravel: i'm not sure to be honest, maybe not on the desktop anymore [00:31] thought it was EOL by now, and that I had applied the last bunch [00:31] TheLordOfTime what i'm thinking is Android removed grub [00:31] ok thanks __dan__ === tensorpuddin is now known as tensorpudding [00:31] maybe, many users will panic in turn soon :) [00:32] Bray90820, Wait, are you on a tablet or something? [00:32] <__dan__> caravel: yeah haha, maybe an upgrade to 12.04 is in order :) [00:32] sure that's planed __dan__, I only miss a plane ticket :) [00:32] <__dan__> ahhhh haha i understand :) [00:32] * caravel won't risk it over ssh, not brave enough (or too much experience hahahaha) [00:33] i am on a touchscreen netbook [00:33] how do I always open something as root, say gedit [00:33] <__dan__> yeah I would hesitate ... although my experience of version upgrades on kubuntu has been very good [00:33] in windows for instance there's a run as administrator option [00:33] <__dan__> guideX: i think it's gksu under gnome / unity [00:33] oh i'm using xfce [00:34] sorry [00:34] <__dan__> try gksu anyway [00:34] ok [00:34] <__dan__> i'm more familiar with kde :) [00:34] __dan__: my alternative strategy is to train my sister a little more on shell :) screen -S is good but I still feel she's got a little more way to go :) [00:35] hmm it only works on the first load [00:35] TheLordOfTime do you know why grub won't even show up after teh android install [00:35] so when I close it, and reopen it is running under my context again [00:35] or is there a way to set the whole directory i'm in for me to be able to write to it? [00:36] guideX: you might want to avoid this generally [00:36] <__dan__> caravel: sounds like your sister is already more useful than some windows admins hahah [00:36] I mean, opening any X stuff as root [00:36] well how else can I edit a file without dropping to the terminal? [00:36] <__dan__> gksu gedit /etc/yourfile.txt [00:37] __dan__: yeah, I got her to self install her 12-04 on full luks :D [00:37] well yeah but, that only works the first time, I must open the terminal every time to do it [00:37] Bray90820, no, because I've never installed android alongside Ubuntu. you may want to wait for someone more knowledgeable. [00:37] <__dan__> so run gksu gedit [00:37] <__dan__> then open the files you want from within gedit and keep it running [00:37] guideX: worst case, you could stick some extension for your gnome-shell or whatever DE you use [00:37] i could just wipe grub from my /boot partition and reinstall it [00:38] <__dan__> isn't there an option in xubuntu to run a root file explorer? [00:38] i.e. right click > open as root [00:38] <__dan__> or whatever its called? [00:38] hmm that's an idea.. [00:38] <__dan__> pcfm innit? [00:38] it's weird how i can't edit the file, yet it's in my home directory [00:38] is this a glitch of some kind or [00:38] <__dan__> permissions probably set to root for that file individually [00:38] <__dan__> chown is your friend === ident is now known as Guest67298 [00:38] <__dan__> and ls -l [00:39] ls -l and check permissions. [00:39] guideX: and I remember also a panel applet for this (you could drag stuff, it would pass it to gksu/whatever needed) [00:39] oh cool [00:39] i'll check that out too [00:39] Is there a good CPU/RAM monitor that I can put in my menubar or whatever it is with the clock etc [00:39] oh you're right, the whole folder is root [00:39] guideX: but please avoid the "always open as root" track, for your own good [00:39] because root created [00:40] ah there's no security needed here, it's a dev server :D [00:40] mguy, I don't know about the notification bar, but conky is great for that sort of thing [00:40] so if the permissions are set to root, how do I change to me? [00:40] because it's in my home folder.. so I meant for it to be me [00:41] is it possible to route audio to the rj11 output? [00:41] on ubuntu [00:41] if I right click and choose properties, I can't edit the permissions on the permissions tab, it's grayed out [00:41] TheLordOfTime i could uninstall and reinstall grub [00:41] <__dan__> did you try running your file manager as root? [00:42] hmm I don't know how to run the file manager from the terminal... [00:42] I know how to sudo su and such.. [00:42] but I don't know the command for file manager [00:43] can some one tell me how in the world i can install the ubuntu on my phone [00:43] do you know what it is? [00:43] <__dan__> nor do i on xfce [00:43] ah ok [00:43] do i hack the phone [00:43] do i buy a other phone or what? [00:43] <__dan__> guideX: thunar? [00:43] i keep geting errors [00:44] <__dan__> John12: you might want to stop by xda-developers [00:44] ah ok [00:44] cool [00:44] same thing [00:44] i get status 7 error [00:44] assert failed getprop [00:45] * __dan__ gets a whiff of a small green man [00:45] mguy, i think maybe this?? http://conky.sourceforge.net/ [00:45] penth: indicator-multiload is what I went with [00:46] you think the ubuntu not out yet for the android? [00:46] <__dan__> some android phones / tablets will allow a ubuntu chroot [00:46] <__dan__> ie. running ubuntu from within android [00:47] <__dan__> i had it working on my hp touchpad a while back [00:47] i have nexus s 4g [00:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup [00:47] <__dan__> but it was hard work [00:47] i done that, but again, it saids that error when i upload it to my sdcard [00:47] <__dan__> i dunno man [00:48] is there another way to do it? changing the permissions in a root thunar session isn't working [00:48] <__dan__> and on that note i think i will bid you guys farewell [00:48] <__dan__> good night all :) [00:48] mguy, sry this is what you want http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html [00:48] cya dan.. [00:48] peace [00:48] does anyone know a way to change folder/file permissions? [00:48] i'm having a hellofatime [00:48] guideX: chmod [00:49] hmm ok [00:49] guideX chown [00:49] hmm crap, I don't know how to use it.. how do you get help from these? [00:50] guideX: type 'man chown' at the terminal [00:50] Better yet google 'filesystem permissions linux' [00:50] btw [00:50] ah ok cool [00:50] is this room a scam? #ubuntu-touch [00:50] i'm trying to report it, but i can't [00:50] John12, ?? [00:51] i can't report the room for bots [00:51] i want to try kde but not sure whether to do a clean install of kubuntu. is it safe to just do sudo apt-get install kde-full ? [00:51] John12, it's the official channel for ubuntu touch [00:51] it's like then join and leave and joinh and leave [00:51] hmm it says "Invalid User" [00:51] when I try chown /u guiideX [00:51] err guideX [00:52] know what i'm doing wrong? [00:52] You would use 'chown guideX somefile' [00:52] ah ok [00:53] But that's changing the owner not the permissions. [00:53] hmm maybe it'd be easier to delete everything and download again.. [00:53] What are you trying to do? [00:53] well I can't change any files or folders in my home directory [00:53] unless I sudo in the terminal [00:54] Go to the /home directory (not /home/guidex) and type in ls -l, what's the line look like with your home folder on it [00:54] so I keep shelling to terminal, then running geany, then closing it, repeat, it's taking forever [00:54] hm ok === nathwill_ is now known as nathwill [00:55] hmm it says drwxr-xr-x 28 [00:55] What's the whole line? [00:56] the full output.. will tell owership then group [00:56] anyone familiar with setting up networking for lxc that works in a virtualbox vm? [00:56] hi all, i'm stuck with adding a statusnet account to gwibber. the old accounts screen has been replaced by the online accounts section, which doesn't reference statusnet at all [00:56] hmm it's drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 mar 6 00:34 [00:56] guideX: Paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [00:56] for most of the stuff [00:56] guideX: and whats your users name? [00:56] guideX: That file is owned by root - you probably wnt to change that [00:56] guideX [00:56] arent user names all lower case? [00:57] Can anyone suggest a financial manager that can connect to your bank account and also allow you to attach scans/invoices to certain purchases? [00:57] hmm dunno... [00:57] chown -R guidex:guidex guidex [00:57] hmm ok cool let me try that [00:57] !permissiona | guideX [00:57] !permissions | guideX [00:57] guideX: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [00:57] sudo chown that is... [00:58] oo i think it worked [00:58] yep it worked, thanks :) [00:58] you need to set the owner of your users files to be owned by tghe user and group 'guidex' [00:58] What did you do to screw it up? [00:58] well nothing seems to work unless I sudo su first, so that's my usual workaround [00:58] no idea why things would get owned by root. unless you moved things from a usb, or other ways as root [00:59] for instance, I can't do anythign with svn unless I sudo su [00:59] guideX: do NOT use sudo su. use the normal sudo -s or sudo -i [00:59] ah ok [00:59] I was unaware [00:59] and you really shouldent need to be root to use svn UNLESS your permerssions and ownership of files are wrong to begin with [01:00] well most of my files are coming from svn [01:00] so I'm not sure how it's bringing them down.. [01:00] I thinmk the files were in windows before that [01:00] Back, my mom nagged me about my homework for a while >_> [01:00] i would suggest reading up on that permissions wiki page to learn about them. I dont use svn so no idea on any good guides on it. [01:00] !svn [01:00] svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/ [01:01] it's a way to download and upload source code, go back to older versions, etc [01:01] I wouldn't use it if i had a choice heh.. [01:01] and it dosent make much sence that it needs to be ran as root. [01:02] the windowed version doesn't have to, but for xfce there isn't a windowed version of it, just the terminal.. anyhow, the command works fine, so i can just alter the permissions after svning moving forward [01:02] kinda silly, that's ok [01:02] I will read up on that page though [01:02] sounds more likle theres somthing fundamentally wrong about how you are doing things.. [01:03] just because its a cli interface dosent mean it runs as root. [01:03] probably true [01:03] and there may be gui front ends out for it. [01:03] oh of course [01:03] not for xfce :( [01:03] I wish [01:04] there's on for unity and gnome [01:04] err.. you can run gnome and kde apps in xfce [01:04] and visa versa [01:04] makes no differance [01:04] xfce is like 60% gnome to begin with [01:04] ill have to figure that out, currently, it only works in gnome + unity [01:04] in xfce it doesn't sjhow up in the menus at all [01:04] install the app.. it pulls in needed items.. run it from terminal if you cant find the icon [01:05] Hello and good evening.. [01:05] oh right, but it's a shell integration usuyally [01:05] it shows up automatically in the menus for me, [01:05] if it's not there, it's just not heh [01:05] you mean in the file manager? you can run nautilus in xfce if you wanted to [01:05] is anyone having issues with flash player in 12.04lts [01:05] oh cool maybe that's why [01:06] It is not allowing me to play sound in browser [01:06] dasound08: Are you using the one in Chrome or the plugin [01:07] I have used both.. neither are working.. [01:09] Do you have ANY sound in your system? [01:09] ive noticed flash seems to have its own volume controlls for me - differnt then the normal system/gnome volumes.. i can mute the system sounds, vlc and so forth.. and flash still makes noise.. sometimes it gets reversed.. flash is muted.. but others play. ;) i recall twiddling with the volume slider in the flash videos.. that may not be the same issue as you are having. [01:11] also is there a way to fix the scrollwheel in ubuntu 12.10? [01:11] it seems like it's not working anywhere.. [01:12] server montreal.qc.ca.undernet.org [01:13] nope freenode :D [01:13] guideX: works for most people.. you may want to check at askubuntu.com to see if any known issues/troubleshooting guides are out for that issue [01:13] ok cool [01:14] maybe it's because i'm in virtualbox... [01:14] i'll try the askubuntu [01:15] dont forget the vbox guest addations [01:15] oh I can't install them, I tried that.. upon installing the guest addons, the virtual machine freezes then never boots again [01:15] tried several times heh === g_byers is now known as gbyers[Away] [01:20] hi (don't know what to do and I'm feeling bored) [01:20] I get that alot heh [01:20] recently I said that in an irc channel and someone said, "learn c++" so I did heh [01:21] hehe.. [01:21] c++ is way too mainstream. [01:21] we need something novel though.. [01:21] I UCCN alerts Flooding [01:21] ? [01:22] trojan-script: my irc client blocked your query request lol [01:22] ^o) [01:22] :) [01:22] xD [01:23] *ehem* who is in the middle of class now? (like me for instance) [01:23] i'm at work [01:23] bless you because you aren't drilled by the lecturer to write stuffs [01:23] no one in middle class, no such thing [01:23] no such thing as in? zimzum77 [01:24] middle class [01:24] oh, sorry.. [01:24] sorry man, i jumped the gun [01:24] *in the class* I mean [01:24] my bad : p [01:24] my bad too.. [01:25] can someone set up CS server so I can shoot to ease my tension? [01:25] ...or, our tension [01:25] oh, btw... here is like GMT +8 [01:25] does any one know, do these work like win gagets [01:25] http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html [01:26] checkin' [01:26] conky is not a gadget [01:26] its more of a sysrem monitor [01:26] yea, conky is not a gadget [01:27] ok, but they monitor [01:27] right on [01:27] I think it is more like to beautify the desktop with circles, beeps and stuffs [01:27] haha [01:28] conky has been around for ages.. [01:28] real men dont use gadgets.. they use conky [01:28] what the diff, between terminal, x terminal, and ux terminal?? [01:28] because windows gadgets are too mainstream... well, are they? [01:28] LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO [01:28] LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO [01:28] LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO [01:28] RxDalfZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:29] zimzum77: feature set. [01:29] xterminal is the x's terminal.. I mean, the Xorg. [01:29] xterm has been the standard for decades [01:29] so they can do differt commands?? [01:30] they run the same stuffs [01:30] bear wit me , i noob [01:30] yeah, they can run the same stuffs.. [01:30] !terminal [01:30] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [01:30] i'm surprised people don't use the geany terminal :D [01:30] zimzum77 there is no such thing as "noob".. only less educated :P [01:30] never noticed or needed geany for a termibal [01:30] hehe.. no offense, and I'm bored to death. [01:31] so, bear with me.. [01:31] i tend to use terminator [01:31] hahaha, that be me [01:31] dr_willis: at the bottom of the geany window, there's several buttons "status", "compiler", "message" [01:31] and terminal [01:31] dr_willis everyone says so.. terminator is kinda a great terminal emulator though [01:31] so it's like an integrated terminal window :) pretty cool [01:31] i rarely code. [01:31] ah ok [01:32] at one time nautilus had a terminal on a f key. [01:32] but i got removed i recall [01:32] dr_willis: we can customize that hotkeys thingy, can't we? [01:32] I had done this before on something other than nautilus [01:33] pcmanfm if I'm not mistaken [01:33] different filemanagers may have the feature [01:33] ahh I see [01:33] so.. then, what's your preference? I bet nobody likes nautilus. [01:33] in term of responsiveness, I mean [01:36] nautilus works fine for most people [01:37] so, everyone.. have all of you heard about the new server, called as Mir? [01:37] canonical wanna replace xorg with Mir [01:37] bbl. got a job to do. [01:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec MirSpec [01:38] dr_willis: have a nice day ! :) [01:40] <|Anthony|> I'm having trouble getting a samba share to work with ubuntu as the server and debian as the client [01:40] <|Anthony|> i can connect, but it's a user permissions issue i'm having [01:40] <|Anthony|> any pointers? [01:41] hurm... ubuntu = samba server, debian = client? hurm.. ok (I thought people use debian for server stuffs... lol) [01:41] <|Anthony|> lol [01:41] <|Anthony|> yeah, it's an odd use case here for sure [01:41] <|Anthony|> funny thing is that the deb box is a server [01:41] <|Anthony|> i need it to do backups to my desktop [01:41] <|Anthony|> lol [01:41] nearly got puked.. if it is Windows, I might be dead now.. [01:42] erm.. sorry. I'm no expert for this.... just wandering around for fun.. [01:43] is there any guide to using dual monitors with intel hd3000 somewhere? === |_ocke3 is now known as |_ocke [01:43] hello, can someone help me out? crackle and youtube and hulu full screen all make my computer go dead. - i think it is my cheappy 310m nvidia graphics ion little chip. [01:43] ubuntu-newb: maybe you can try something like xrandr or grandr setting [01:43] I experimented dual-monitor thingy on nVidia 8400gs by using xrandr-grandr [01:44] xrandr is just temporary... i want it to be permanent [01:44] maybe you can google it :) [01:44] hrm.. so, xrandr kinda bothering you? eh? [01:44] don't know how to turn it on permanently [01:44] sorry :'( [01:44] well the desktop does not scale to the resolution... [01:45] so it is just up in the corner after i changed the resolution [01:45] yup i am not the only one with graphics issues [01:45] <[Saint]> Most monitors have an "auto" mode that should "just work" there. [01:45] I should write and xorg.conf but it has been ages since i did dual monitors on linux and also that time it was with an nvidia card [01:46] [Saint]: The problem is i have to set modelines manually for the large screen as DPMS still does not work properly in linux. [01:46] so i probably need an xorg.conf anyways [01:46] <[Saint]> Occasionally when I change resolutions or add/remove a monitor (triple head setup with a laptop) the resolution goes all weird - I just have to hit "auto" on the display. [01:46] <[Saint]> I guess I'm lucky. [01:47] I am trying to do an apt-get update but get this error and the process stops [01:47] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [01:47] E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en [01:47] my monitor goes black and sound goes out all of a sudden when watching a hulu or youtube vid, after about 10 minuets [01:47] xrandr claims my large screen can only do 1024x769 whilst it does 2536x* in windows [01:47] any help please? [01:48] sorry kion - past my skill sthere - but let me look in, might find you a clue [01:48] Anyone know how to remove and reinstall grub from ubuntu [01:48] <[Saint]> Boot-Repair [01:49] <[Saint]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [01:49] CazyArsMut: thanks, the last line reads: Could not analyze or read the lists of packages or the state file. [01:49] Kion, did you try to use the updater gui? [01:50] CazyArsMut: first thing in the morning the auto update process went and told me of an error, then I tried in a terminal! [01:50] <[Saint]> Kion: I take it this was your first stop? [01:51] <[Saint]> if you google "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en" exactly, you'll find it hasd been answered multiple times. [01:51] <[Saint]> Protip: Google first ;) [01:51] [Saint]: sorry I don't know why I didn't think of googoling it first! [01:51] when that happens to me, i just restart, then let everything load for a min then sign in, then let everything catch up again, then run the uploader again, be patient, select to install updates and if it does it again, i'm lost Kion [01:52] CazyArsMut: Did that, with the same bad result [01:52] Kion, that method has worked for me without fail [01:52] danget [01:52] !yum [01:52] Uh, don't you mean !apt ? [01:52] <[Saint]> http://goo.gl/4Fw6y <-- there you go ;) [01:52] ok [01:53] I love you, ubottu [01:53] Kion could no read....states of file - it looks like you don't have the packages for the files, or looks like you have lost some data in the, i want to say 'grub' but i dont think that's it. [01:53] where do I find the package libperl-text-aspell ? [01:54] Kion, did you get the restricted updates? [01:54] hello, when I plug in an external blu-ray writer (Samsung SE-506AB) I do not see it listed in lsusb — is this because of some proprietary software needed? [01:54] you might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion [01:55] dibblego, did you pop a blank dick in there and see what happenned? [01:55] omg so sorry [01:55] Yes [01:55] haha [01:55] sdisk, disk [01:55] CazyArsMut: I think i got the restricted updates, and I didnt install anything between now and last successfull update [01:55] well no, but I put a disk in there instead! [01:56] hahaha [01:56] yikes [01:56] sorry [01:56] <[Saint]> [14:54:40] you might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion <--- if that's the case, then, it is incredibly broken. As it should make sure of its dependencies. [01:56] i dont know what to say dibblego [01:56] My SE-506AB just worked without additional config (except for bluray video of course) [01:56] <[Saint]> that's a convoluted way of me saying "almost certainly not the cause" === Jikai is now known as Jikan [01:57] but Kion you can make sure by openning software center, then typing 'restricted' and checking if there is a little green checkmark next to it [01:57] [Saint]: But I have not installed any new program ! [01:57] maxb: oh ok thanks, maybe some other problem then [01:57] CazyArsMut: The software center will not open anymore because of the same problem [01:57] CazyArsMut: it crashes! [01:58] yeah yeah - that's probably it - i would remove it Kion and then get the updates - or rad a bit more up on it's 'dependencies' then try to run it again after they have been met - Kion [01:58] <[Saint]> Awwwwwwwwww....what :-S === LaserShark is now known as ZombieShark [01:58] <[Saint]> I thought 13.04 gave me back the weather icon gadget...but it's a silly Ubuntu One thingy :P [01:58] CazyArsMut: remove what? [01:58] * [Saint] wants his weather gadget back [01:59] crap Kion - all i can tell you is that you should get an ssd and a fast processor and fast ram - 8gb preffered - and then run a new installation - i say ssd so you can install in 15 minuets - also if you have usb 3.0 you can run off flash much faster for demos and ghost riding hehehe - before you do any of that - get your data backed up on an external hard drive [01:59] maxb: Can you please tell me the output of lsusb with your SE-506AB? Also, I should be able to play a regular DVD from it right? [02:00] Kion, remove the faulty program that won't update [02:00] CazyArsMut: If I could only know which is it? [02:01] it looks like you have issues with the language dept [02:01] the translators_en part is a giveaway [02:01] <[Saint]> "upgrade your hardware" is about the worst fucking software advice I have ever heard. [02:01] <[Saint]> Thanks for that, made my day ;) [02:01] honestly i would just re-install Kion and salvage my important data [02:01] #anime [02:01] <[Saint]> Also a highly stupid course of action. [02:02] <[Saint]> "reinstall the OS" should never be a "solution" to such a problem. [02:02] <[Saint]> Never. [02:02] !language | [Saint] [02:02] [Saint]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [02:02] CazyArsMut: Well.... I ve got tons of important software installed the hard way.. I mean by having to compile from source and It would take a long time to get it back to normal [02:03] Wait, if there's a language rule why doesn't the bot just have a badwords list that autokicks people? [02:03] Instead of waiting for people to mini-mod [02:03] I mean obviously the bot isn't opped, but it -could- be [02:03] <[Saint]> Kion: out of interest - did you try google - where this has been asked and answered several times? ;) [02:04] <[Saint]> I wasn't joking when I suggested it, or linked to a page showing you the fact. [02:04] because the bot would then be abused, and we prefer to explain the rules instead of enforcing the rules with kicks and bans. [02:04] [Saint]: I did, and have only read one solution that seems rather a security breach than a real solution to me [02:04] How would the bot be abused? [02:04] I don't understand. [02:04] crap man - oh - did you try to get a better location to gt updates from? it might be that your mirror or server location is bunk Kion [02:04] [Saint]: they say open you sources.lst and delete everything and copy and paste this! [02:04] <|Anthony|> yeah, so i'm confused on this... to setup a samba server, do i need to have user accounts on both the client and server? [02:05] <|Anthony|> this is really confusing me [02:05] CazyArsMut: how do I get a better location, by using a internet proxy? [02:05] dibblego: Unfortunately I left it at my office, so I can't right now. I've played both DVDs and Blurays on it subject to navigating the pains of the copyprotection [02:05] <[Saint]> Kion: repairing the sources list is exactly what you need to do. [02:05] CazyArsMut: in the system settings [02:05] maxb: ok no worries, what are the hurdles with copy protection? [02:05] [Saint]: yes, I agree, how do I do that? [02:05] Kion - that's why when I reinstall and do my processes all over again from scratch I am going to make a history of action - So i can always just go back to my cloud doc and follow instructions to get it back to how it was before a breakdown. === boze_ is now known as boze [02:06] <[Saint]> chroot - liveCD - whatever, you just need to get a known good copy on there. [02:06] <|Anthony|> trying to do backups from a debian server to an ubuntu desktop. and i'm not sure how the user authentication goes [02:06] <[Saint]> Ask Google. [02:06] ok - Kion open the updater [02:06] <[Saint]> CazyArsMut: he's already said the updater GUI crashes has he not? [02:07] Kion - click on settings after it finishes starting up [02:07] <[Saint]> see above. [02:07] dibblego: For DVDs, the usual "You need to install libdvdcss", for Bluray, the need to obtain key material from internet sites of dubious legitimacy, and even then there's no solution at all for newer discs [02:07] maxb: oh ok, so that's the next step after I can get it up and running, cheers [02:07] <[Saint]> The first thing the updater does when it launches is check the sources list - which is invalid - which is (apparently) the problem. [02:07] maxb there is > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD [02:08] Anyone have a suggestion for screencast software? A teacher asked me to do a screencast on using Ubuntu, but I haven't done one on anything but windows before [02:08] Thanks guys... I have to go unfortunately, they are closing the office and have to go home [02:08] I will connect in 10 minutes [02:08] i thought it crashes after you try to complete a download - you don't need to do that right now, you are just changing 'software sources' 'download from' [02:08] thanks all [02:08] Hello, I appear to be having problems with my wireless printer [02:08] does it automatically crash Kion? [02:08] lol he quit [02:09] OerHeks: That page is fine as far as it goes, but doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys [02:09] cool - the dude lives next to his office lol how nutzy is that? [02:09] i wana live 10 minuets from work [02:09] why does ubuntu seem to want to force 96 dpi in X? [02:09] maxb, or this tread > http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc [02:09] shouldnt' it read the actual dpi from the monitor if available? [02:10] I am new to Ubuntu and linux as I have come from Windows. I have been trying to set up my wireless printer but I can't seem to figure it out [02:10] Guest83386: you mean wifi¿ [02:11] Guest83386: Have you tried googling yet? There's probably a comprehensive guide somewhere. [02:11] what make printer? === mitch is now known as Guest31469 [02:11] We'd love to help, but it's preferable that you at least try a little research first. [02:11] or its as simple as using the cups web interface and addprinter - scan [02:11] I have tried Googling. I know how to get to the interface to set it up, I just can't connect as I am not quite sure which method and information to use [02:11] cups web interface --> http://localhost:631 [02:12] many networked printers show up and can use different methods. [02:12] OerHeks: Still doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys. I don't think there's any solution for that [02:12] i found mine works well with ipp: on linuc [02:12] Guest83386: did you already sync the printer with your wifi¿ [02:13] Sorry, but I have just began using this OS in order to make my weaker netbook usable again. I am new to linux, so I have opened up Chrome and went to http://localhost:631 [02:13] I try to access administration but it asks for login info? [02:13] it wants the sudo password [02:13] dibblego: I had an idea - your SE-506AB isn't in its weird media emulation mode, is it? [02:14] Xangua, yes. I have it working on Windows laptops [02:14] maxb: its what what? [02:14] maxb: the 1 page instruction said something about "AV mode" — I have no idea what that is [02:14] dr_willis, thank you [02:14] Hi i'm new to this chat and i have a question about Mozilla Thunderbird. its stuck in a full screen mode where i am not able to access the "x", the minimize button, or the maximize/minimize buttons. or the whole top menu bar for that matter. can anyone help me out?? [02:15] niggerniggernigger [02:15] Hey, someone mentioned that i can backup my configs, before i reformat. - How do i do that. Im kinda confused on what it meant anyways. I have my home director on a seperate partition. [02:15] Guest83386: i rarely use the cups tools. i tend to always use the cups web interface.. just seems to work better for me [02:15] dibblego: The SE-506AB has a bizarre mode where it attempts to emulate exposing a CD containing audio/video files as a USB flash disk or something like that [02:15] Guest83386: and what brand is¿ if it's supported you just open the dash, search for Printer settings, select the add option and it should appear [02:15] subcool: you customized any files in /etc/ ? [02:15] maxb: oh that might be it, I will check it out, thanks! [02:15] guys, please, i'm getting this error while compiling kernel modules on 3.7 kernels. error: ‘VM_RESERVED’ undeclared (first use in this function) [02:16] I still seem to be having problems logging in [02:16] dr_willis, got me. lol [02:16] dibblego: IIRC the mode toggle involves holding the eject button whilst the drive tray is open, and paying attention to the LED to know which mode it is in [02:16] personally- no. if someone helped me- maybe.. [02:16] dr_willis, [02:16] maxb: yeah the instruction says something like that [02:16] subcool: guess you dont wory about it then. just be sure to NOT format your home partition during an install [02:16] Xangua: It's a Canon Pixma MX860 [02:17] Guest83386: canon is famous.. for bad linux support.. [02:17] Guest83386: you may want to check askubuntu.com cups.org and the linuxprinting.org sites to see if its supported at all. [02:17] dr_willis, not more than AMD [02:18] yes.. more then amd... [02:18] only worse company then canon.. i can think of is 'SiS' [02:18] whats the name of the login manager for unity, like kdm is for kde [02:18] Ah okay, but how do I login to CUPS? [02:18] any suggestions on screencasting software? [02:18] and how do i via the console make the unity login manager the chief one [02:18] dr_willis, i thought that SiS was dead [02:19] Guest83386: i just use my main users name/password === mikestewart is now known as ms|afk [02:19] randimiller: Live or just recording in general? [02:19] Rokkross, recording in general [02:19] recordmydesktop is good. [02:19] YokoBR: nope.. about once a week we get a sis user in here [02:19] Not sure if it's live [02:19] Rokkross, thanks will give that a try [02:19] Recordmydesktop randimiller works [02:19] Be sure to install recordmydesktop-gtk if you want a graphical frontend for it. [02:19] great- thanks dr_jesus [02:19] at least I think that's what it's called [02:19] dr_willis, [02:20] Ah I must have been typing something wrong. Sorry about that. However, I am still confused on how to add my printer [02:20] theres a manage -> add printer item on that page Guest89833 [02:20] Guest83386: the page should have links to the cups docs also. [02:20] dr_willis, poor devils.. [02:20] maxb: http://i.imgur.com/GrzCqvm.jpg [02:21] Okay I am looking into it, thank you [02:21] randimiller: imagination is good for slide show type vids [02:21] Guest83386: assuming it is supported, you just select the add option> netword printer in Printer settings [02:21] anyone with HD 4XXX series AND xorg 1.13 or newest kernels AND fglrx-legacy (makson96) [02:21] nm how do i switch back to the default login display, and not kdm [02:23] dibblego: Yes, that. I guess verify you can turn that on and off, and then make sure it's off [02:23] It does not appear supported on the CUPS website, however I believe the driver is available. Also, there is PIXMA MX350, I have PIXMAD MX860 [02:24] maxb: oh it was already off, so I just turned it on [02:24] omg, i can't believe that i'll have to downgrade to 12.04 just to install amd driver [02:25] maxb: I still do not see it with lsusb :( [02:25] #help [02:26] I'm new to linux and trying to install http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html but don't know how to follow these directions [02:27] hi, what is the difference between downloading 12.04.2 and using a 12.04 iso and updating? Is there any difference? [02:27] knoppies: you'll use more bandwidth one way [02:27] hi .. i can-t resize the main ubuntu partition .. even though there-s a lot of unallocated space ... it doesn-t let me.. here-s my setup.. http://imgur.com/6AiNTLG .. any tips ?? [02:27] jrib, depending on whether I already have 12.04? [02:27] knoppies: I don't know what you mean [02:28] jrib, I already have the 12.04 iso, so I wouldnt need to download it, assuming the updates are < 700MB I would be saving bandwidth by using that. [02:28] alainus, free space needs to be contiguous, although that may not be your problem. [02:28] can some one please tell me how to restore unity, instead of kdm [02:29] knoppies: then that way will probably consume less bandwidth probably... [02:29] knoppies: apparently i had to do swapoff .. [02:29] alainus, oh. Are you resizing the extended partition? [02:29] Where is the hard drive located on ubuntu? It tells me to extract a file to the hard drive but I don't know where it is specifically on here [02:29] knoppies: yeps [02:29] bsnl: *what* tells you? [02:30] bsnl, when it says that it means you need to extract it to anywhere inside /home/USERNAME/ [02:31] Ah ok [02:32] *what* [02:32] Oh I thought that was a command that would tell me, but knoppies showed me [02:32] bsnl, glad I could help. [02:33] alainus: swap is mounted automatically by the live CD (which locks the extended partition). You can just unmount it: sudo swapoff -a [02:33] Any place I can go to get a good solid learning education on linux/computers so I can appreciate/do more with linux? [02:33] so Ubuntu is proposing a Rolling Release [02:33] !ot | selena2013 [02:33] selena2013: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [02:34] bsnl, your own home. The Internet can provide a lot of help (and a lot of confusion). This channel is a good place to start if you get stuck. One tip from me, DONT be afraid of the command line. Its not as scary as it looks. [02:34] bcbc2, knoppies ... now it-s leaving unallocated space after which i can-t get rid of. ..see http://imgur.com/vZEZAr0 [02:35] alainus, dont worry about that, most partitioning tools do. Its only 1MB. [02:35] Ok! Thanks! One last thing, Apparently I don't have the permission to access extracting to the hard drive [02:35] Rokkross, rats_, thanks this looks like it will do fine... it's no camtasia but will do temporarily [02:36] Er I mean, i don't have permission to access that particular location of home [02:36] when attempting to copy an extracted file there [02:36] bsnl, /home/ belongs to root, you need to put it into /home/$USER [02:36] Oh! Ok, thanks! [02:37] alainus, Im not sure why they do that, I assume it has something to do with aligning to cylinders or something. You can try select align to MB. [02:39] I can't figure out how to tell it to move to home/user [02:39] lol [02:39] cp foo /home/username/ [02:40] bsnl, what dr_willis said. Type that into a terminal, or use nautilus to ctrl-c ctrl-v it. === fire is now known as firewall [02:41] "Cannot stat foo, no such file or directory" [02:42] think about that.... its an example.... [02:42] I am new to linux and trying to install drivers... I downloaded the .tar.gz but I am unsure of what to do now [02:42] Guest83386: drivers for what [02:42] My Canon Pixma MX860 Printer [02:42] tar zxvf filename.tar.gz [02:43] its possible they are allready in the repositories [02:43] search for 'canon' in the software center and look [02:43] I am just unsure of what to actually do with the archive file [02:43] Guest83396: Are you sure that Ubuntu doesn't include the drivers for your device in the repos? [02:43] bsnl, what is the name of the file. You need to do cp filename /home/username [02:44] bsnl, or if you want to move it (rather than copy it) then mv filename /home/username [02:44] I do not believe it does [02:45] = = [02:46] How do I install the drivers after I've the archive downloaded? [02:48] Brain Workshop has a few dependencies on Linux. [02:48] First, get OpenGL working. Brain Workshop uses OpenGL as a backend for drawing its graphics. Hardware acceleration is strongly recommended, but if it's not available or easy to set up, the Mesa software renderer also works. [02:48] Python: Most distributions come with Python preinstalled. Open a terminal and type python to ensure you have Python 2.5 or higher. Python 2.4 will also suffice as long as python-ctypes is installed. [02:48] If you would like music support (recommended), download and install AVBin by following these steps: [02:48] Download one of the following: [02:48] bsnl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:48] AVbin 7 installer for 32-bit Linux [02:48] Guest83386: Did you already try simply plugging the printer in and trying to print to it? What version of Ubuntu are you using? [02:49] I am on Xubuntu 12.10, and I am trying to set up via network access. I have it connected to multiple Windows computers [02:49] But yes basically i'm trying to install that [02:49] !find avbin [02:50] Found: libavbin-dev, libavbin0 [02:50] Guest83386: OK, have you tried adding the printer via system-config-printer yet? Does it show up in the list of network printers there? === ms|afk is now known as mikestewart [02:51] Where do I access system-config-printer? === atrius is now known as atrius_away [02:52] Guest83386: It's somewhere in the menus, probably "System>Preferences>Printers" or similar, or just run "system-config-printer" from a terminal. [02:52] I believe that is what I am trying to use [02:52] or use the dash search. [02:52] dr_willis: Xubuntu. [02:53] he was trying the cups web interface earlier [02:53] ok [02:53] Guest83386: Does it show up in the list of network printers there? [02:54] my ubuntu box is almost solely as a web server, that being said, port 80 is open, however my ufw.log shows from time to time, access to port 80 is blocked, how so? === dennis___ is now known as eipi [02:55] eN_Joy: Please post the exact line (or use pastebin if it's more than one line). [02:56] Jordan_U: e.g., http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589402/ [02:57] Terminal commands don't seem to work [02:58] http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html is what i'm trying to install [02:58] Didn't expect i'd run into this issue, google is usually always there for me but i'm getting nothing here and i'm too new to ubuntu and its commands to understand why this isn't working [02:58] bsnl, pastebin the terminal output when it fails. [02:59] Alright [03:00] mv brainworkshop /home/username [03:00] mv: cannot create directory `/home/username': Permission denied [03:01] my brainworkshop /home/usr [03:01] my: command not found [03:01] Whoops lol [03:02] bsnl, mv brainworkshop /home/$USER [03:02] bsnl, what is the output to echo $USER [03:02] you are using your actual username? [03:02] !chat [03:02] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:02] may be time to read a bash beginner guide or two [03:03] my brainworkshop /home/$USER [03:03] my: command not found [03:03] No, I went through the other names first before usr, usr was just last ditch [03:03] yes bash the noobs [03:03] although beginner guides would be helpful [03:03] bsnl, M V not M Y [03:03] mv is short for move. [03:04] Okay the printer shows up in the list [03:04] But the test page does not work [03:04] lol I have never had that problem before [03:04] The MAC address is correct [03:04] Sorry, I am extremely groggy and disfunctional right now, this stuff isn't normally hard for me :/ bad time of day to try this I guess [03:05] <[Saint]> assuming you're logged in as the user in question, 'mv ~/' may avoid some cunfusion. [03:05] you still print stuff? [03:05] [Saint], I dont want to confuse him any more. [03:05] No [03:06] lets casta a fatah on De Icaza [03:06] there may be some error info in the /var/logs/cups* files Guest83386 as to why its failing. [03:06] lets cast a fatah on De Icaza [03:06] i mean Miguel [03:07] all this time we was infiltrating the comunity [03:07] * [Saint] wonders why Chrome has the user selection on the left, and _ [] X on the right in 13.04 ow [03:07] <[Saint]> *now [03:07] MakiAto: keep it ontopic in here please [03:08] mv brainworkshop /home/$USER [03:08] mv: `brainworkshop' and `/home/bsnl/brainworkshop' are the same file [03:08] Hi, I seem to be having trouble with ntp setting the time incorrectly by a day after an update to 11.04. Is that common? Anything I can do about it, or just get rid of ntp? [03:08] Curs0r: Uh... when you say "incorrectly," what do you mean exactly? [03:08] Ten seconds off, wrong timezone, etc? [03:08] bsnl: so what are you moving where? [03:08] Corey, Tue Mar 5 20:06:49 MST 2013 is what date returns [03:08] I just need to move the file brainworkshop to the hard drive in order for it to run [03:09] It's off by a whole day every time ntp syncs [03:09] bsnl: looks like its allready in your user home directory [03:09] <[Saint]> bsnl: it already is. [03:09] Curs0r: Uh... ntp can't do that, by itself. [03:09] i need to make a ntp server [03:09] ... [03:09] Curs0r: Not to mention thatthat's... right. Tue Mar 5 19:09:33 PST 2013 here. [03:09] <[Saint]> MakiAto: No, you don't, hundreds of people already did this for you. [03:10] !ntp [03:10] Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP) [03:10] So I was right when I moved it there before coming here lol fml [03:10] Curs0r: So is the problem "You don't know what day it is?" :-) [03:10] and set it up for just one date/hour [03:10] Anybody here want to take a shot at a question regarding fglrx on Ubuntu? Particularly if you have an ATI GPU [03:10] is ubuntu tweek a recomended theme app? [03:10] Now I just need to get it to run somehow [03:10] Getting errors when I try the recommended way [03:11] skate: theres several ubuntu tweaker tools out. Ubuntu-tweak seems to work ok. been using unsettings lately [03:11] What the hell. then my windows box is off by a day and asterisk is screaming about dates in the past for some other reason. this day gets better and better [03:12] Curs0r: Yeah. ntp is spot on, your internal clock is broken. :-) [03:12] Corey, and yes apparently neither I nor windows knew what day it was [03:12] Curs0r: Or every clock in the room is broken and I'm living in a madhouse, let's not discount that. [03:12] Greetingd folks.. Night.. [03:12] thank you ill check that out [03:12] Corey, that's actually unfortunate news. this means I have no clue what is wrong with asterisk now lol [03:13] How do I uninstall the drivers? [03:13] I have a hard to resolve issue in my Kubuntu.. No ATI driver can be installed.. I am losting my patience... heh.. Does any-good-fryend help me?? [03:13] folks, i have a machine with Ubuntu GNU/Linux (virtual one, but let's forgot about this detail for now) ... Wlan0 is my conection to the internet, it is a physical device conected "only" to de virtual machine... And I have a a ETH0 conection, avirtual ethernet adapter ... From the host i can ping the eth0 ... How do I share my conection between the guest os to host ? [03:14] hi [03:14] Ok I see the problem now. My reading comprehension went kaput when I got really tired and I skipped over a few important lines, go figure [03:14] hi poopie [03:16] !ics [03:16] If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [03:17] Hello - I'm running from Bodhi Linux & recently attempted to dual-boot Macpup - I decided I wanted to keep my bodhi-grub... How do I go about adding the menu entry to grub? [03:17] Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop. [03:17] This is the last part [03:18] IRCLemur: I want to know the same thing about the Kubuntu grub and do not the backtrack one.. [03:18] IRCLemur: add the right stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom is one way [03:19] But I don't know what directories are so I can't figure out what the brainworkshop directory is :[ [03:19] anyone using backtrack? [03:19] dr_willis, Thank you - I couldn't remember where the new version of grub had it's "menu.lst" type-file for custom editing [03:19] ubunts's update-grub command detects and auto adds a lot of distros automatically [03:20] update-grub nor grub-mkconfig found the frugal install of macpup on sda3 [03:20] lol I can't believe for 2 hours i've just been trying to move file- Run program [03:20] it adds iso linux images? [03:20] bsnl: its in your users home.... /home/yourusername/ [03:20] MakiAto: you can add those by hand [03:20] no i cant [03:20] dr_willis, I know to update-grub after I edit 40_custom... thank you. [03:21] i sure i could make the system unbootable thou [03:21] hey [03:21] MakiAto: clarify your question. [03:21] im a bad typist [03:22] Anyone have any clue why an Ubuntu 12.04 server would fail boot after installing security updates? mountall fails according to kernel messages and I get thrown into a maintenance console—thing is, there are only two partitions (root and swap) and executing mountall in the shell caused it to boot properly. (I don't have access to it right now so I can only go from memory—it's been bugging [03:22] me at work today—but I thought I'd ask and see if there are any 'common issues' of this description) [03:22] Does anybody knows how to hide my activity from the owner of a wifi conection? [03:23] you need to spoof [03:23] another connection [03:24] thak you very much i will search for this topic! [03:24] ask dr_willis for the hands on approach [03:24] I still can't find it lol [03:25] bsnl: cd /home/yourusername/whatever [03:25] bktt, I wouldnt look too much into that, if you want to hide your activity then use a tunnel of some sort. Either an SSH (port foward) tunnel or a VPN. [03:25] What i'm trying to do is this "Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop." [03:25] anyone use teamviewer here? [03:25] bsnl: seriously.. reading a bash tutorial is worth it. [03:25] ME [03:26] i use TMviewer [03:26] cd brainworkshop [03:26] python whatever [03:26] whats bash [03:26] !bash [03:26] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal === james_ is now known as Guest17284 [03:26] Oh its ubuntus command prompt [03:26] !hash [03:26] !ash [03:26] bsnl, yes. Also known as a terminal or cli. [03:26] MakiAto: do you know why teamviewer runs as a process on windows at all times? even if I don't have it started? [03:26] its not ubuntu specific [03:27] Alright, so I managed to get the printer working. Now, how can I change it to grayscale only? When I go Job options, print-color-mode, monochrome, it does not stick [03:27] bsnl, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal it will help you with most of your problems. [03:27] The terminology and rules that the programs follow are completely elusive to me. if I had a break down of the laws of how ubuntu functions this would be much easier [03:27] you have to ask the devs [03:27] Ok, i'll learn that tonight [03:28] heraclitis: try ##windows [03:28] bsnl: laws? its all normal linux/unix at the core [03:29] MakiAto: already have. I run it on both linux and windows. [03:29] What I mean is, I don't know the logic behind how linux/unix functions atm [03:29] bsnl: you dont know the basics.. start with a bash tutorial or 3 then work up [03:29] Linux is just a name to me right now and nothing else [03:29] bsnl make yopur owne distro using LFS then you can be aloud to ask something like that in here [03:29] bsnl: remember case IS imporntant in linux [03:29] i'm not sure what you're saying MakiAto [03:30] What did I ask that was bad [03:30] Checking ... [03:30] bsnl: hes just ranting.. ;-) [03:30] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ [03:30] in reality, though, don't ask "what's bash" that's googleable [03:31] !google bash [03:31] I have no google command, use http://www.google.com/ [03:31] Ok, i'll get the google fu leveled up [03:31] bsnl, you can ignore MakiAto. He just has no patience. [03:32] I'm fine I just don't know what he was upset about, was it the easy google answer questions i'm asking that he doesn't like or something else? [03:32] Is there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing? [03:32] is there a way for me to look at an HD's SMARTT data booted to a 12.04 live cd? [03:33] Just couldn't see what he was mad at lol [03:33] * MakiAto thinks bsnl is Miguel in disguise [03:33] Hey so I installed Ubuntu and it is about perfect. The problem I have with it is the sound setup is very confusing. Is there anyway or any other programs to simplify it? [03:34] The alsa mixer is what I'm referring to really. [03:34] connor: what do you mean exaclly? [03:34] Nautilus, yes, try installing gnome-disk-utility. Then to call it from the camand line its called palimpsest [03:35] Oh one real quck question and I think i'm done [03:35] Nautilus, I cant believe I mistyped command. [03:35] bsnl, dont ask to ask a question, just hit us with your question. [03:35] knoppies: shock, horrror! [03:35] How much should I learn before i'm capable of installing gentoo? I've heard its a challenge that helps you learn linux better and i'd like to work up to that [03:35] knoppies: I can do that without it touching the HD? [03:35] Nautilus, without it mounting the HD. Yes. [03:36] hello [03:36] Nautilus, it will read from the HDD Smart data when you open palimpsest. [03:36] apt get gnome-disk-utility ? [03:36] bsnl: if you have to ask what bash is.. you are a long way from using gentoo. [03:36] Nautilus, dont forget the install, but yes. [03:36] Nautilus you should enable the only menu option that enables RAID [03:36] ee [03:36] Thats ok, i'd just like to know what I have ahead of me before I can install gentoo [03:36] bsnl: read its install docs if you want. anf the lfs docs.. to learn some new terms [03:36] how to remove file on ubuntu [03:37] bsnl, install it, learn it as you go [03:37] how to remove file on ubuntu ?? [03:37] bsnl: why do you even think you need gentoo [03:37] bsnl, I would stay away from gentoo for a while. I know someone who started with gentoo and so he uses nothing else, but without a good mentor it will be like swimming in quicksand. [03:37] nuli: rm filename [03:37] nuli: right click.. delete.. highlight and hit delete... rm [03:37] bsnl, waiting till that perfect day you know enough is the slow way [03:37] !bash > nuli [03:37] nuli, please see my private message [03:37] nuli, rm filename #(or do you mean uninstall a program) [03:37] ok thank,,, im begginer [03:38] * dr_willis would hope rightclick-delete would be discoverable... [03:38] when I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts 127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com [03:38] I tried installing it once before, I understood around 1/4 of the installation process but after 25% in I got a little lost [03:38] and when i access thah domain [03:39] Nautilus, did that solve your issue? If you reboot you will need to re-download the gnome-disk-utility .deb package, you can copy it to your USB (or some other location) from /var/cache/apt/archives or something. [03:39] the content say error 4040 [03:39] Do you recommend any bandwidth monitor tool, which sends emails alerts. I have already used ntop, bandwidth (comes with pfsense), mrtg. But any of them send alerts? (sorry with my english, if there is a mistake.) [03:39] how to change that message ??? [03:39] nuli: run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it [03:39] bsnl, always best to have a separate laptop or pc connected to the internet to lookup error messages, status messages or to ask in chat [03:40] when I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts 127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com and when i access that domain the content say error 404 ... and how to change that message???? [03:40] nuli: run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it ie: 127.0.0.1 [03:40] my mobo has jack detection will it work in ubuntu because it doesnt work in windows 7 === Karbowiak is now known as zz_Karbowiak [03:41] rperez_cr, I don't know of anything but that is something I am interested in myself. [03:41] knoppies: yep it sure did ... 1289 reallocated sectors [03:41] MakiAto, what is stopping you from just trying it out with a LiveCD? [03:41] Nautilus, gulp. [03:41] knoppies: it was already there, i didnt have to install it [03:41] knoppies: yup [03:42] ATI GPU owners, anyone? Anyone with a working OpenCL setup on Ubuntu? [03:42] because if i do it and it doesent work i was just waisting my time!? [03:42] MakiAto: we cant tell you yes or no.. you need to try it [03:43] I'm going to post the directions and then the command I typed and the terminals response [03:43] MakiAto, and asking here isnt? We dont know what motherboard you have, or what specific ubuntu you are going to use, and even if we did, what makes you think that we have tested that combination ourselves. [03:43] so they have this stuff working at all in some hardwear? [03:43] Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop [03:43] MakiAto, yes. they do. [03:43] MakiAto, it works on my laptop. [03:43] MakiAto: thats a yes [03:44] /home/bsnl python brainworkshop.pyw [03:44] bash: /home/bsnl: Is a directory [03:44] bsnl, dont type in /home/bsnl, just type in python brainworkshop.pyw [03:44] bsmith093: cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop [03:44] oops [03:44] bsnl: cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop [03:45] that IS 'entering the brainworksohop' directory [03:45] For educational purposes, why didn't my command work? [03:45] because you are not giving a correct command [03:45] dohoho [03:45] cd to the dir [03:46] run the command [03:46] Is there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing? [03:47] jonesmj, look for a setting in mouse or keyboard. I'll see if I can find one. [03:48] bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~$ cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop [03:48] bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/brainworkshop$ [03:48] bsnl: notice your prompt has changed? [03:48] I wish I had a good computer.jpg.vir.exe.wallpaperbonus [03:48] knoppies, I couldn't find one at all [03:48] Yes [03:48] jonesmj, I dont seem to have one on xubuntu, but I think one does exist. Something like hide cursor while typing, could also look for disable touchpad while typing. [03:49] knoppies++ [03:49] seeya [03:50] jonesmj: maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/157134/how-to-hide-the-mouse-cursor [03:50] I do indeed notice that my prompt has changed [03:50] Into a dinosaur [03:51] It's eating me, I don't think i'll be able to make it through guys, oh it's teeth are tearing apart my innards, these are my last few days. Thank you for your help, if I survive i'll read the command line terminal, oh god i'm breaking u [03:51] bsnl: you now run the command [03:52] its not rocket surgery [03:52] this is like stuff covered in the first 10 min of a bash tutorial [03:52] sometimes it is lol [03:53] oh, the joys of bash [03:53] who need a mouse anyways [03:53] a 10 min reading = 2 hrs of irc tutoring [03:53] i rarely use the terminal [03:53] all graphical gui [03:54] selena2013: really, try a week with no gui [03:54] hell no [03:54] lol [03:54] its easier to give bash commands on irc support [03:54] the black hole of bash [03:55] the wasted time of searching a gui for a 2 word bash command.... [03:55] thats the beuty of linux it can be modern and arcane at the same time [03:55] thats right [03:55] windows has the exact same issues in many cases [03:55] its kinda of like the beuty and the beast [03:56] lol [03:58] !questions [03:58] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [03:58] selena2013, do yourself a favour. Dont be afraid of the terminal. Use it a little here, and a little there. In a few months you will do things that are quicker to do on a terminal in the terminal, and the things that are quicker todo in a GUI in the GUI. Before you know it you will be writing scripts which do things like only move certain files or bulk rename files. The terminal is still VERY powerful, even in todays G [03:58] UI oriented computing. [03:59] <3 [03:59] Sup [03:59] knoppies i know is powerful but i gui is easier [03:59] selena2013: try sudo ./ it shows pretty cat pics [03:59] I am using slitaz 4 on a different pc [03:59] lol [04:00] selena2013, not true. There are many things that are easier to do in a terminal than in a GUI. and its not that much harder to learn, just harder to remember. (thats what man pages are for) [04:00] its a linux easter egg [04:00] at times the gui is harder [04:00] dr [04:00] knoppies: (I use a GUI terminal :) [04:00] usr13, Match made in heaven. [04:01] Who remembers? (I use notes.) [04:01] but gui is beautiful [04:01] selena2013, so is green on black terminal (imo). Fine, stick to your ways. [04:01] gui can be an eyesore [04:01] dr_willis does the ext3 format on usb support swapping files easily as msdos? [04:01] so's CLI [04:01] panorain: swapping files means? [04:01] yellow on black [04:02] dr_willis I seem to have problems with transferring/copying files form linux based computers with the usb:thumb drive ext3 [04:02] selena2013, (this isnt exactly fair, as its not a terminal but a bootsplash) Tell me this is NOT beautiful: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/KNOPPIX_booting.png/300px-KNOPPIX_booting.png [04:03] GUIs are for the desktop terminal is for under the hood - depends on your workflow [04:03] rats_, thats not even true. I use the terminal for a lot of desktop tasks. [04:03] dr_willis: I think panorain has troubles with a file manager. [04:03] both are good [04:03] looks nice [04:03] panorain: ownership and permissions ARE remembered on a removeable usb thats ext# formated [04:03] with the tux [04:03] i wished my irc client look half as good [04:04] MakiAto, tried weechat? [04:04] usr13 when I format the usb /sda etc file system ext3 makes it hard to transfer files [04:04] panorain: Ahhh yes, it's file ownerships you have problems with. Right? [04:04] panorain: linux dosent care that they are removeable. [04:05] im going to oinstall mirc in wine [04:05] it treats them the same.. so set up the users the same way. or chown/chmod the files as needed [04:05] panorain: If it's not file ownership, I don't know what the problem is. Files are files.... [04:05] usr13 possible why to I see always etc3 has a new trash bin included in a freshly created thumb drive? [04:05] panorain: you could have kept the format of the usb as NTFS if yu wanted to, it would have worked [04:05] usr13 ext3 sorry [04:05] !trash [04:05] Your GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device. [04:06] gnuskool meaning with using gparted? [04:06] panorain: That is the function of the file manager, (which gives you an un-delete option). [04:07] ... same as MS Windows... [04:07] usr13 please help me run through a setup on a 2.0 gig thumbdrive easily partitioned and able to swap file with my slitaz4 pc [04:07] panorain: yes, the usb can be of FAT32/NTFS which is windoes format and that would have been ok [04:08] panorain: I usually use the default fat32 so that the device can be easily shared with other OSs. [04:08] panorain, then format it to fat32 [04:08] gnuskool I have inserted the thumbdrive what is my next step with the bash terminal? [04:09] panorain: They come that way, I leave it that way. [04:09] panorain, have you already changed it to ext3 format? [04:09] gnuskool please hold on 15 seconds [04:09] panorain: You want to re-format it? [04:10] whats a good command in terminal to display cpu temp readout? [04:10] gparted works well for that panorain [04:10] usr13 I would like to reformat the 2.0 gig thumbdrive [04:10] gnuskool I opened gparted now [04:11] skate: I think that info comes from BIOS [04:11] skate: need to install few things few, e.g. lm_sensors [04:11] gnuskool the device is picked up and labeled /dev/sdf [04:11] delete ecisting partition. make new one. format it to vfat or whatever its called [04:11] panorain: mkdosfs /dev/sd?# [04:11] ok thnx [04:12] usr13 from terminal sudo prefix? mkdosfs /dev/sd?# [04:12] panorain: sudo fdisk -l [04:13] panorain: (You first have do decide which device you want to format.) [04:13] skate: this tutorial might be handy for you.. complete guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-get-sensors-information/ [04:13] usr13 I would like only a linux based format to share between linux computers [04:13] panorain: (Be sure to select the correct device.) [04:14] usr13 my drive is /dev/sdf [04:14] usr13 I have opend sudo fdsik -l [04:14] panorain: Why would the filesystem matter? [04:14] usr13 It should not matter [04:14] great! thank you aiFrantz [04:14] panorain: usr13: why don't you use palimpsest/gnome-disk-utility to format the drive? kinda curious here O.o? [04:14] panorain: type mk and hit the tab key a couple times. [04:15] panorain: (take your pick) [04:15] panorain: mkfs.ext3 ? [04:15] vfat works well for sneaker-net transfers [04:15] usr13 yes [04:16] panorain: I agree with dr_willis. I recomment vfat [04:16] aiFrranz I do not know gnoe disk utility [04:16] thats his whole issue [04:16] panorain: But its up to you. [04:16] panorain: mkfs.vfat -In ‘enter-some-name-here-ok’ /dev/sdf [04:16] usr13 please help you are appreciated [04:16] mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1 [04:16] gnuskool ok [04:16] panorain: Why would you want to limit it's use only to systems that will read ext3 ? [04:17] usr13: he wants to share with a windows os [04:17] panorain: install = sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility ... to invoke, put this command into terminal : palimpsest ... quite handy [04:17] usr13 I do not necessarily want to limit it this way [04:17] panorain: Then use vfat [04:18] gnome-disk-utility is a GUI tool.. much easier to someone who is no expert in this terminal thingy. but I do encourage to use terminal instead... much more fun I guess ^.^ [04:18] aiFranz I have opened the utility now [04:19] panorain: mkfs.vfat = mkdosfs -f32 [04:19] the rest is much more self-explanatory... [04:19] thank you [04:20] aiFranz must I unmount before partitioning? [04:20] panorain: Yes [04:20] panorain: yes you must [04:20] aiFranz I have unmounted the usb drive now [04:21] ok.. proceed to whatever next step you wanna proceed [04:21] usr13 the label of the drive is fat32 [04:21] panorain: Doesn't matter. [04:21] aiFranz what should I do now to clear the thumb drive [04:22] formatting volume and formatting drive aren't the same thing on gnome-disk-utility. to clean the drive, select format drive [04:22] panorain: Just format it. (All data will be cleared, gone) [04:22] aiFranz masterbootrecord? [04:22] eeekk [04:22] i'm on mac just now.. tell me the choices... i forgot 'em all [04:22] usr13 scheme askes master boot record [04:23] *oh maii godd.. no racism here.. I love mac.. hehe* [04:23] panorain: You don't want to re-partition it do you? You just want to format it. Right? [04:23] usr13 yes 1 big partition 2.0 gigs [04:23] gtg... got something to do [04:23] panorain: How many does it have now? [04:24] apple is racist? [04:24] usr13 none anymore I just formatted mbr [04:24] panorain: Really? [04:24] usr13 now only [04:24] apple is pro gay people [04:24] ence the rainbow [04:24] aiFranz it show unallocated space [04:24] or is it the other way around? [04:25] MakiAto: And what does that have to do with Ubuntu? [04:25] heh [04:25] panorain, just format the usb drive, ensure its the usb youre formatting, that is enough [04:25] everyone in irc is a male [04:25] thats a given [04:26] panorain: no need to do anything further, all data will be removed from the drive and you can use it [04:26] !ot | MakiAto [04:26] MakiAto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [04:26] gnuskool ok === greg777 is now known as greg_777 [04:26] usr13: are you old engough for itc? [04:26] gnuskool drive is not recognized [04:26] gnuskool no format to the drive? [04:27] neat [04:27] most of people chating in irc are from some goverment organization [04:28] thats another given [04:28] aiFranz should I create a partition now? [04:28] panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format. [04:28] i bet the only women in irc must be here because its in theyr job discriptions [04:28] usr13 what type of partition is best between all? [04:29] panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1 #would have formatted it. [04:29] panorain: Primary [04:30] panorain: If you only use one, no choice, primary [04:30] usr13 ok thank you [04:31] panorain, how is it going? [04:31] usr13: we dont use /dev/sdf you should recall the drive UUID [04:31] gnuskool: He's learning how to create partitions. [04:32] probablly Miguel seted that up for us [04:32] MakiAto: What? [04:32] gnuskool the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf yields Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override) [04:32] paul@paul-desktop:~$ [04:34] panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format. [04:34] usr13 please help [04:34] De Icaza married a brazilian [04:34] panorain: Have you created a partition? [04:35] panorain: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf [04:35] usr13 yes I created a partition using the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf [04:35] panorain: Tell us what it says? [04:35] panorain: You format partitions, (not drives). [04:36] In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[17][18] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop computing. [04:36] usr13 > Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override) [04:36] paul@paul-desktop:~$ [04:36] !ot | MakiAto [04:36] MakiAto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [04:36] panorain: mkfs formats, (it does not create partitions). Use fdisk to create partition. (or cfdisk) [04:36] panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1 #would have formatted it. [04:36] what a coerent little men [04:37] he allready killed linux [04:37] panorain, open gparted [04:37] usr13 , mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1 or sdf? [04:37] panorain: see my pm [04:37] gnuskool ok [04:38] panorain, select the usb, what does it say under 'filesystem'? [04:38] In March 2010, he was named as the fifth in the "Most Powerful Voices in Open Source [04:39] usr13 yes thanks [04:39] panorain: FYI: "sdf" is a drive "sdf1" is a partition. [04:40] I've set my prompt as follows: export PS1="\h:\w\$ "; However, after doing "sudo bash" successfully, I still see $ instead of #; why? [04:40] panorain, ok/ [04:40] sproc dont use sudo bash [04:40] !sudo [04:40] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [04:42] I don't make a habit of it; however I still would like to understand why this is so. [04:42] use sudo -i [04:42] your bash is runni g roots bash init files [04:43] and messing with the enviroment settings [04:45] If I have that same line in root's .bashrc, it also shows $ rather than #. [04:45] (when logged in as root via sudo -i) [04:45] Are there any packages specialized for protecting laptop batteries from extra wear? [04:46] panorain, did you survive? [04:48] Nevermind, I needed to escape the backslash; \$ -> \\$ [04:48] I am on Xubuntu 12.10. It never prompted me to install proprietary video drivers [04:48] How can I do this manually? [04:48] I've just made another possibly grim mistake. Onerix is 12.10 isn't it? [04:49] !12.10 [04:49] Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) is the current stable release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.10 - Support in #ubuntu [04:49] !11.10 [04:49] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1110 [04:49] !ati | RustyShackleford [04:49] RustyShackleford: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [04:49] Ok, so I still have the chance to stay at 12.04 once I get there? [04:52] I started out with 10.04 server this evening. My dahdi card stopped working after upgrading releases. I'm hoping it starts working again by the time I get it up to the 12s... [04:53] previously, Additional Drivers would appear [04:54] and thats how I installed it [04:54] in 12.10+ the addational drivers tool is in a tab on the software-sources tool [04:55] RustyShackleford: try the link i gave to do it manually [04:56] dr_willis, awesome, thanks [04:57] Curs0r: any specific errormessages? [04:57] they really should have made an alias/script for jockey-gtk to pull up that tool and focus that tab [04:57] gnuskool, no sir, dahdi commands not showing up in asterisk, lspci shows it happy as can be [04:57] How would I go about changing my lxbr0 ip network? [04:58] Curs0r: so what did you upgrade, kernel? [04:58] I have a question relating to USB installation of Ubuntu via USB on a machine that has no USB boot option in the Bios [04:59] gnuskool, I did a do-release-upgrade and am now doing another that should apparently put me at 11.10 [05:00] usr13 IS AWESOME! [05:00] installing a full install to usb? you would need to put grub where it can boot from [05:00] Mick_James: plop http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html [05:00] * Curs0r likey LTS so shooting for 12.04 [05:00] Curs0r: I think the initial problem is that a newer kernel does not recompile dahdi drivers, so a recompile would have fixed it [05:01] Thanks Holstien, Im assuming there's something out there similar to the CD helper [05:01] Curs0r: Ive come across this before [05:01] gnuskool, I will do that when I have finished 'modernizing' thanks :) [05:01] Installing from USB dr_willis [05:01] Err, rather I will get confused probably and ask how to do that [05:01] Curs0r: solution here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610457 [05:01] Mick_James: i dont know what "the cd helper" is, but if you want to boot usb on legacy hardware, plop will do it [05:02] gnuskool, that solution is equally valid in 12.04? [05:03] cursor, I can only assume, as everytime I did a kernel upgrade, I had to do that [05:03] Ok. I will call that plan A :) [05:03] After I have covered my own backside and gotten the phone system working I have to tackle samba. She cranky :) [05:05] Curs0r: have fun [05:06] Curs0r: the single comand you need is /var/lib/dpkg/info/dahdi-dkms.postinst configure [05:07] gnuskool, thankfully that one should be simple. "it's allowing shared folders to be accessed but not allowing the user to access the computer's address for a list of shares" is the shakily written note in front of me [05:07] Thanks holstein, worked a treat [05:08] okay === c_smith is now known as c_smith_away [05:09] it seems as though every time I try to do anything "new" on this OS I'm confronted by about 50 different problems, all requiring extensive amounts of reading, and extremely boring work [05:09] I've already abandoned any hope of ever doing half the things I wanted to do with this pc that I built myself until I can afford a proper OS [05:09] but all I wanted to do this time was play Dwarf Fortress [05:10] so I go to the bay12 site and proceed to download the files for linux, and then I look at the installation guide. [05:10] XSevenX: i find sometimes its easier for folks who have no experience with any other OS... dwarf fortress can make a native linux version [05:10] lo and behold there is this entire massive wall of text that I don't even feel like reading [05:10] Curs0r: cant say without seeing your shares or samba.conf [05:10] holstein just look at this, I mean, really. [05:11] you guys are awesome [05:11] Curs0r: permissions, I mean [05:11] holstein: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Installation [05:11] XSevenX: is there a support question anywhere in your wall of text? [05:11] all I see when I look at this is "problem, another problem, problem, more problems" [05:11] Anyone else have trouble with menu and screen-lock compositing? All my menus and modals are showing up behind all the other windows [05:11] this channel isn't really for ranting [05:11] panorain: finally fixed? i thought you had formatted the wrong drive lol [05:11] you know I thought I learned how to install, and "run" programs on this OS [05:12] gnuskool thank you my issue has been solved [05:12] and then I continue to find shit like this that just baffles me, because I don't even understand what it is wanting me to do [05:12] am I supposed to reprogram my linux? [05:12] XSevenX: dude, chill [05:12] gnuskool thank you for ll your help [05:12] go somewhere else if you want to just rant [05:12] XSevenX: please watch the language.. this is the official support channel [05:12] gnuskool all [05:12] if you have a question, ask one [05:12] gnuskool, if you're still around in a bit I can pastebin for you. Still got a long haul doing the release upgrade shuffle. [05:12] watch what language? [05:12] panorain: no prob, didnt do much [05:12] XSevenX: they can release the program for ubuntu.. even in the software center. and might eventually [05:13] XSevenX: where are you having issues? [05:13] gnuskool people like you are wonderful to have in the computer world [05:13] Curs0r: ok, if im about, no problem [05:13] usr13 is awesome i have to add [05:13] ..I seriously cannot put my hand into my face any harder right now [05:14] holstein my problem is: WHY DOES THIS OS HAVE TO BE SO DRAMATICALLY NON-USER FRIENDLY? [05:14] panorain: :D [05:14] XSevenX: if you don't have an actual support question, could you just not say anything? [05:14] XSevenX, try gentoo and say that again [05:14] XSevenX: the OS didnt create that game.. wwhere are you having issues? [05:14] XSevenX: simple - stop shouting, stop swearing, stop ranting. state your specific question [05:14] XSevenX: That is why I don't agree with those who want to let non-geek people to use Ubuntu [05:15] XsevenX I could add slitaz 4 to the list [05:15] XSevenX: the readme is actually not that bad.. where are you having issues? [05:15] I read the readme and it makes no sense to me [05:15] all I want to do is run the program as I have done on Windows [05:16] it gives me no command to input into my terminal [05:16] I go to the help on how to install it [05:16] XSevenX: you can start with what *exactly* is making no sense, or ask the developers of the game.. [05:16] and it says I need to get all these libraries [05:16] holstein this has nothing to do with the game ffs [05:16] XSevenX: it says you need to get specific libraries, that are listed.. is that where you would like to start? [05:16] sounds like the devs need to make a proper .deb [05:16] exactly, I'm gonna go to these webpages [05:16] I have a question regarding ehci_hcd binding. I was messing around with unbinding it from my adapter because I thought I had a problem with the driver for a USB HDD. Now, even though I re-bound it, it does not rebind upon reboot. I have to bind it manually. On my laptop, I didn't fiddle around with it, so it binds correctly each reboot. What am I missing? [05:16] XSevenX: actually, this has *everything* to do with the game.. nothing to do with the OS [05:17] and it's gonna say I need __________ in order to get _____________ in order to run ___________ in order to find ___________ [05:17] i imagine all the libs are in the repos [05:17] this is the case with _everything_ on this OS [05:17] * dr_willis has never had to track down dll's on windows... done here.. [05:17] That's how it is with all OSes. Linux just has a very wide array [05:17] no matter WHAT I want to do on this OS I need to have _____ in order find _____ in order to search for _____ in order to learn about _____ in order to download _____ in order to have file #1 of #299 in order to run program X [05:18] XSevenX: not with things that are made to run in ubntu.. from the repos or softare center.. but what would you like to do? talk about the dependanties? [05:18] XSevenX: we can constructively review the readme.. otherwise, you need to stop posting so the volunteers here can help others [05:18] Isn't Samba made to run in Ubuntu? It is not a fun install [05:19] i have no real issues with samba [05:19] i fight more with windows to windows networking [05:21] XSevenX: when you have all the necessary files and are ready to get it done, give me a shout [05:22] XSevenX: i would just right click and make the "df" file executable and try running it.. i have it running here, and i didnt do anything special [05:23] yeah i have it running too [05:23] easy peasy lemon squeezy [05:23] Is anyone familiar with the usb error, cannot bind on USB port. I tried unbinding and rebinding the ehci_hcd driver and now it doesn't bind upon reboot. Is there anyone who is familiar with that issue? [05:24] XSevenX: its click and run.. [05:24] apparently it's easier to complain then to try [05:25] hola [05:25] hi [05:25] holstein I did attempt to run the "df" file and it did nothing but stall/sit here [05:25] Meanwhile, I solved the problem I've been asking about all evening with compiz --replace, per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/735162 [05:25] Launchpad bug 735162 in compiz (Ubuntu) "menu application appears behind window application" [Medium,Confirmed] [05:25] thus I tried terminal commands [05:25] and then I went to the website for further help [05:25] XSevenX: its running for me.. try right click and run in terminal and see what the errors are [05:26] terminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens [05:26] XSevenX: make it executable.. and run it in the terminal... [05:27] it says "df" is an executable file [05:27] any wine wizards here? #winehq is nonresponsive [05:27] "Run in terminal", "Display", "Cancel", "Run" [05:27] and so I "Run in terminal" [05:27] terminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens [05:27] then open a terminal, navigate to where df is, and run it from terminal [05:27] XSevenX: maybe start over and re-download it.. i grabbed http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_34_11_linux.tar.bz2 [05:27] Firestorm65: ask away hombre, someone might know the answer [05:28] I have the same package holstein [05:28] http://pastebin.com/y44Zax98 just want to fix this [05:28] not sure if it's as simple as finding the ddl or more involved [05:28] I have df_linux in my "Home" folder [05:28] this is probably a longshot, but does anyone here know how to run the equivalent of debuild using pbuilder-dist? [05:28] XSevenX: i extracted the download, and right clicked on "df" and set it to executable.. then i clicked it and ran it in terminal.. [05:29] what do you mean you "set it" to executable? [05:29] XSevenX: navigate inside "df_linux" do "df".. right click on it, and go to permissions and set it to executable [05:30] okay, I went to Properties, and I allowed it to execute as a program [05:30] jefimenko, you'd probably get better advice in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-packaging [05:30] and I just attempted to open in terminal, and then also run it === debiantoruser is now known as Guest21336 [05:30] both options yielded no results [05:30] <|Anthony|> just to be sure before i do this on an existing user account... doing usermod -a -G share someuser will add that user to the share group WITHOUT changing any of their current group assignments? [05:30] <|Anthony|> i've had bad experience with usermod in the past [05:30] <|Anthony|> :/ [05:31] XSevenX: it being what? /path/to/df_linux/df ? [05:31] I don't know how to find my home folder from the terminal [05:31] XSevenX: try re-downloading.. it literally ran first try for me.. easy.. and im not trying to be combative [05:31] If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, [05:31] the user will be removed from the group. This behaviour can be [05:31] changed via the -a option, which appends the user to the current [05:31] supplementary group list [05:31] XSevenX: is it in Downloads? [05:31] penth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:31] just 'cd' takes you to your home [05:32] oops. But yes, -a -G should do the trick Anthony (so siath the man page) [05:32] I have the correct .dll in my windows partition [05:32] Personally, I use vigr :) [05:32] how do I use that to run a program in wine? [05:32] XSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/ [05:32] I just redownloaded it and saved the tar.biz in downloads [05:33] !wine [05:33] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [05:33] Firestorm65: run what exactly? you dont run a .dll [05:33] run the program, it is missing a .dll [05:33] run the .exe, excuse me [05:34] Firestorm65, best asked in #winehq. [05:34] wine has its own emulated windows driv in .wine/ Firestorm65 [05:34] no one's home there [05:34] holstein I do not know how to navigate to anything in this terminal because the way this OS sorts files is unfamiliar to me [05:34] ok, sorry. [05:34] i'm getting "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found." in GRUB, and then a grub rescue> prompt. what shall i do ?? [05:34] copy the dll to the right wine win32 dir. in .wine or perhaps put it in the samw dir as the .exe [05:34] XSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/ [05:35] XSevenX: let me delete mine, and i'll copy paste what works for me [05:36] ok I've found it in the terminal holstein [05:36] what's really stupid [05:36] is that I've figured out how to view my system processes [05:36] and kill processes [05:36] without any informmation [05:37] but getting anything to function or run on this OS requires 10 hours of labor and 20 hours of hard study [05:37] why would they design something this difficult to use [05:37] anyone has tried 13.1 here ? [05:37] AMD 13.1 catalyst driver ? [05:38] suhaib: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 [05:38] linux grew.. not really designed.. [05:38] dr_willis: do you think I should install 13.04 now ? or wait for the beta [05:38] XSevenX: i'll pastebin you *exactly* what worked for me, but keep your posting in here support related please [05:39] I put the .dll in the system32 folder and the bin folder [05:39] neither changed anything === Orbit is now known as Guest26914 [05:39] suhaib: im not even sure if they are doing the beta stuff any more. or how they call it [05:40] dr_willis: accroding to the wiki, it says they are releasing the beta on 7th of march :-s [05:40] Firestorm65: the #windows guys may now the proper way to add it.. [05:40] guys [05:40] Firestorm65: i think theres a winetricks for it [05:40] suhaib: ive not tried 13.04 yet. no time to install it. [05:40] Guest26914: yes Guest26914 [05:40] haven't messed with winetricks [05:40] will check that out [05:40] Firestorm65: what dll is it? [05:40] dr_willis: Oh, I see [05:41] X3DAudio1_2.dll [05:41] XSevenX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589612/ is yielding http://imagebin.org/249154 [05:41] Firestorm65: whats it supposed to be for? [05:42] The program is SupremeCommander.exe, an RTS game [05:42] hello [05:42] no idea what the .dll is for besides the obvious of the name [05:42] holstein [05:42] how am I supposed to know these commands that you are using [05:42] if its part of directx stuff winetricks may be able to fix it up [05:42] it probably is [05:43] XSevenX: i gave them to you.. in the pastebin.. you can do it in the GUI as well.. i did, by reading the readme [05:43] but it's not on the winetricks list [05:43] who has the command set ? [05:43] so not sure what to do [05:43] no holstein I mean how do YOU know these commands? [05:43] Firestorm65: checked the wine app database? [05:43] Firestorm65: if you put the dll manually in the system32 directory, you need to enable it with winecfg [05:43] XSevenX: experience..and reading readme's.. and asking questions.. [05:43] what's the command for that Ben64? [05:44] Firestorm65: winecfg [05:44] XSevenX: i didnt open the terminal the first time.. i just right clicked [05:44] lol okay [05:44] so what do I do from there? [05:44] add it to the list of overrides? [05:45] Firestorm65: yeah, and set it to "native" [05:45] what are you talking about? [05:45] If you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier. Since DF is a 32-bit application, it needs 32-bit versions of the shared libraries. Some Linux distributions provide these in one or more packages that you can download. For example, in Debian, the ia32-libs package contains most of the common 32-bit libraries, including libSDL (saith http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation) [05:45] holstein it just says chmod: cannot access `./d': No such file or directory [05:46] same if I add data/ df [05:46] holstein ,I don [05:46] XSevenX: its not './d'.. its './df' [05:46] nothing changed [05:46] 4th line says ./d, and then /data df [05:46] not sure I did it right [05:47] error with something to do with libSDL1.2.so.0 [05:47] XSevenX: that was a tab complete.. i should have taken that out.. would you like for me to? or can you just skip to the next one that will work? [05:48] XSevenX: is this a 64bit install? as penth asked? [05:48] so I have to go through the process of downloading libraries for my 64-bit installation [05:48] for the libsdl error, see what I just posted above [05:48] 11.10 :) the march progresses haha [05:48] I added it, set to native [05:48] then tried to run from terminal [05:48] same error [05:48] " If you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier." [05:48] aka I'm going to want to rip my hair out === Kasjopaja23111 is now known as Kasjopaja [05:49] XSevenX: then run the suggested 32bit 12.04 [05:49] You chose to play an unpackaged game without source code. [05:49] XSevenX: i literally clicked and ran it from 12.04 32bit.. [05:49] I don't understand what you're saying [05:49] XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs [05:50] okay, which version of directx should I install using wine-tricks [05:50] the .dll is from directx [05:50] XSevenX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit will help [05:50] XSevenX: assuming you are running a 64bit os.. and trying to run the 32bit game you downloaded [05:51] Firestorm65: have you installed "xact" from winetricks [05:51] Is there any way I will hurt anything by installing all the dlls in winetricks [05:51] and no, not yet [05:51] holstein I don't even understand the significance of 32-bit or 64-bit [05:51] I can't remember the name of a package that lets you tweak pulseaudio [05:51] first time running winetricks [05:51] Firestorm65: well you should, the appdb page says to [05:51] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7038 [05:51] Ok so it turned out they pretty much sucked at giving directions, I got the program running easy now [05:51] I simply assumed that 64-bit was better, and that I'm running a fairly high-end and new processor, so I went with a 64-bit OS installation [05:52] XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs [05:52] I don't mean you guys, the people who wrote the directions on the program download website [05:52] I don't know what xact is. [05:52] meant those guys [05:52] bsnl, gentoo? [05:52] and when I was running 32-bit I often had to get specific .dll's in Windows so that 64-bit applications would function properly on my 32-bit OS [05:52] I did that ben64 [05:52] nvmd found it [05:52] XSevenX: thats why i would suggest just running 32bit.. or coming here and asking one of the volunteers.. or install the 32bit ia32-libs package that several have suggested [05:52] it's still installation the libraries [05:52] It is, but you'll note from the df wiki that the game is precompiled with 32-bit libraries. No choice but to download the libraries or play somehting else [05:52] installing* [05:53] i only use 64bit.. and rarely have issues with 32bit apps. [05:53] XSevenX: then you should be good [05:53] You could always play nethack or minecraft [05:53] i have more issues running a 32bit OS than 64 [05:53] I have yet to try and tackle Minecraft penth [05:53] No not gentoo, just brainworkshop. They never specified the contents had to be removed from the extracted folder and then placed in the hard drive directory as naked files with no file === Justasic2 is now known as Justasic [05:53] That was the problem the whole time [05:53] ia32-libs always get installed on my systems [05:54] I simply assume from now on that if I want to run anything that I'm not already running on this OS that it is going to take at least 10 hours of continuous effort to do so [05:54] XSevenX: isin't this fun?? you'll love the game a lot more after this experience :d [05:54] I told winetricks to install ALL directx9 versions it had [05:54] did I just break it? [05:54] XSevenX: no it doesn't [05:54] gnuskool no this is not fun [05:54] they said the extracted folder containing the contents on the hard drive directory would have run [05:54] XSevenX: please stay on topic in here.. this is *not* where to vent.. we are all volunteers here to help [05:54] Minecraft has no problem. Use openjdk-6-jre [05:54] XSevenX: i had dwarf fortress running within 2 minutes [05:55] Ben64 you had the libraries that I didn't [05:55] DF is now running [05:55] which took one command to install [05:55] But still thanks dr_willis and knoppies for trying to help earlier [05:55] tadaa [05:55] it's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be [05:55] magically delicious [05:55] Ben64 you knew the command to get the installation [05:55] XSevenX: if you can relax and stay constructive, it will be helpful for the volunteers.. i had no idea you were on 64bit [05:55] how am I supposed to know a command I've never seen? [05:55] it says you need 32 bit libraries on the install page [05:56] !ot | XSevenX [05:56] XSevenX: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [05:56] ive some very poorly done linux ports of many humble/indie games... [05:56] all is well... [05:56] instead of coming here and ranting for 10 minutes you could have said "hey I don't think i have 32 bit libraries, how do i get em?" [05:56] because how would I even know that ben64 [05:56] the readme... [05:56] * dr_willis wonders if the game has a forums page [05:56] XSevenX: it says in the readme what you need [05:56] Also the command I had to run to get brainworkshop to run was just python brainworkshop.pyw and nothing else even though they specified more was needed in the command [05:57] by reading the readme and the wiki. Also, good Google-fu is a friend for life. [05:57] ^ [05:57] bsnl: i never saw them specify more. ;) but guess it dosent matter [05:57] or asking one of the volunteers to help you read through it.. [05:57] But why wouldn't these libraries come standard if they are required to run 32-bit programs? That is what I don't understand. [05:58] bnsl, you were combining the command plus the directory path that comes before it from the other person's pc, after a while you will notice and only nVIGATE TO THE PATH, THEN ONLY TYPE THE COMMAND [05:58] XSevenX: many people dont need them [05:58] Oh no dr_willis its not you, I just think the directions they wrote didn't match up with what was working for my computer. The commands probably would have worked for a bunch of ppl but this computer is stubborn at times haha [05:58] Because when you install packages from the repository, you're getting 64-bit versions [05:58] bnsl, oops CAPS LOCK, my bad [05:59] and when you compile them yourself, you're creating 64-bit versions. It's rare to need 32-bit libraries on a 54-bit system, and only because you're using precompiled software that wasn't built for 64-bits. [05:59] Right gnuskool but the commands I posted when I was on track were the ones the website gave me and then the commands after that that were suggested by people here [05:59] about the only 32bit apps i run are games.. and only the humble-bundle/3rd party games [05:59] I just have a weird machine lol [05:59] bsnl, i suggest do a quick tutorial o command line basics and you'll get it in 5 minutes [06:00] (Plus, when I need a 32-bit system I usually just create a virtual machine anymore) [06:00] I'm just expressing i'm very happy to have finally found an approach that worked, took me a few hours lol [06:00] bsnl: for a 5 min task. ;) [06:00] penth speaking of "compiling" that is something else I don't understand. I have tried to figure out how to use wine several times, and every guide I find says I need/should enter commands in the terminal after compiling it/to compile it, or something else that I just don't even understand. [06:00] gj bsnl, and your next go should be smoother [06:00] bsnl, awesome [06:01] !wine | XSevenX [06:01] XSevenX: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [06:01] XSevenX: you don't need to compile anything for wine [06:01] XSevenX: ive never needed to compile for wine.. so no idea what you are reading [06:01] Well dr_willis none of the commands offered here were working on my machine to make the program run, I think it was just some bad luck [06:01] XSevenX: wine 101, wine /path/to/the/game.exe [06:01] XSevenX: you just install it.. though i would look for native applications and enjoy some of what the OS actually maintains for you.. see some of the native polish [06:02] bsnl: what i saw was typos on your part. ;) [06:02] And there were also times where I typed them just fine [06:02] I posted about this in here a couple weeks back: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141&iTestingId=61335 [06:02] compiling is something you do with source code, nothing to do with wine. Don't worry about it so much, it was just an example of why 32-bit libraries aren't installed by default [06:02] I'm not even interested in getting it to run anymore [06:03] XSevenX: so, should the volunteers here ignore that then? [06:03] but this is just an example of how I don't understand anything this guide is telling me to do, and I don't understand what it is trying to accomplish [06:03] bsnl: every thing i saw was wrong.. but i pop in and out all day.. ;P [06:03] dr_willis thank you for the help with my usb earlier [06:03] Everything? But I was pretty much copy/pasting what you gave me after a certain point, why didn't you say anything earlier? [06:04] I tried rereading the steps for this guide so mmany times, and none of it makes sense to me, I follow them to a point and then I just hit a wall where nothing makes sense. [06:04] bsnl: you have to be in the right location.. that was the main error i saw [06:04] and this has been my experience for every time that I've tried to use wine to install anything- mind you I have only attempted to install "Gold" or better rated programs that have next-to 100% functionality [06:05] 'location, location, location' ;P [06:05] so I'm baffled when people keep telling me how easy it is to use wine [06:05] It's just the stumbling steps of being new, they'll wear off XSevenX [06:05] hmm. i just do wine gameinstaller.exe then let it put the icons pn the desktop [06:06] XSevenX: look n youtube for a wine video, maybe you'll get it visually much easier, because it really dead easy [06:07] I have tried this gnuskool.. At first I follow along fine, and then everything gets overcomplicated extremely fast [06:07] double clicking o n the .exes may not work right. since any error messages may get hidden [06:07] Just never try to run the xp desktop in wine; I flushed a dual-boot partition that way once %) [06:08] dr_willis actually the location turned out to be perfectly fine, the embarrassing truth is I had it in the right place all along. The problem was that I needed the files OUTSIDE of the folder in that location, but the download guide on the site said to keep them in the folder after extraction [06:08] that was pretty much the whole thing in a bottle [06:08] often redirected to several websites, where I'll need to make installations of various workarounds for something.. and then I have to go to other websites to get files required by the workarounds, and before I know it, I'm supposed to be making a script or something, or typing out 50 lines of code to get something to function [06:09] I'm scared to even try to get the proper firmware for any of my hardware because it likely isn't compatible with Linux and I'm going to have to have a workaround for any of it. [06:09] needed the files inside the folder moved outside of the folder to be in that location, leaving the empty file behind* [06:09] whoopsy [06:09] With experience, you learn to evaluate sources better. AskUbuntu.com and stackexchange are among the most reliable [06:09] XSevenX: most drivers are plugnplay nowadays, no need to worry [06:10] My keyboard is a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate [06:10] I've got several issues with it because the proper firmmware is not installed [06:10] Hello i need please help about ftp server i install ftp and i try to upfile and i get error how i can fix this? [06:10] I have several keys that rapid-fire repeat VERY quickly, like my m key, which will repeat as many as 20 times in a single press, CONSTANTLY. [06:11] I confirmmed on my previous PC that this problem was caused with the proper firmware not being installed [06:11] gaming keyboards are, pardon the pun, twitchy [06:11] I have a G510 with support issues too [06:11] however Razer does not have a Linuxx version of their software, and so I will be forced to use workarounds, which will no doubt require hours of scripting or something in order to use [06:11] weird hardware can be weird [06:11] the entire prospect makes me not even want to bother, and just use my backspace key mmmore [06:12] Razor is owned by Microsoft. There will be no official Linux drivers. [06:12] i found a razer control deamon for my razor mouse the other day [06:13] Since apparently there is no zen cart irc in existance, can anyone help me with a small design problem? [06:14] ubuntu22: ask, maybe someone knows [06:16] I am using the default template for zen cart. I need to change the column width for the product image column on the product listing page. Inside of zen cart I can change the width of the "Price" column, but not the "Product Image" column. === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [06:16] lol nevermind dr_willis, you're right, I totally noobed this up hard. I will never try to install something while incredibly groggy ever again lol === tvoss|eod is now known as tvoss [06:18] Hello [06:18] i need please help [06:19] Oh dear. [06:21] ASHER1: What's the error say? [06:22] i have problem with something [06:22] and i dont know if this from ftp install ubuntu or later [06:22] this my error [06:22] http://ufu.co.il/files/0gl3ad7ck50v0eqxxlc3.jpg [06:23] Looks like an authenticationf ailure, ASHER1. Did you follow a tutorial? [06:23] try typing https:// at the beginning of the address [06:25] i try to upfile from updata manager [06:25] !il | ASHER1 [06:25] ASHER1: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד: [06:25] /join #ubuntu-il [06:25] That may help. [06:25] i dont need join there [06:25] i ask in here [06:26] a good desktop notes software? [06:26] try typing https:// at the beginning of the address. the server might be rejecting non secure login [06:27] ok i explain if i write ftp://localhost then i can inside to ftp but if i try to upfile i see error [06:27] are you connecting to a mysql database? [06:27] yes [06:28] ask in #mysql [06:28] sounds like a DB issue [06:29] no :\ you dont understand i explain again i try to upfile from update manager and this computer give to me error later computer no i dont why [06:30] did you look at the file its pointing you to? the ftp.include? [06:31] have you checked your drupal configs? [06:31] have you tried asking in #drupal [06:32] i'd be very surprised if this is actually an ubuntu issue. its an issue with one of your webserver scripts / ftp server / mysql database [06:36] glad i stick with scp/ssh/sshfs [06:36] can you help me with slitaz 4 ? [06:36] panorain: since its not ubuntu.. not really. check their official support channels? [06:36] or the #linux channel [06:37] dr_willis ok thank you [06:37] the alias bot can search for a slitaz channel [06:38] !alis [06:38] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* [06:40] Hi. After installing Ubuntu on my external HDD, it shows this during boot: ata_id 311 hdio_get_identity failed for invalid argument what should I do? [06:41] metals: is it actually failiong to boot?\ [06:41] failing [06:42] It brings up the purple Ubuntu page and then shows this message in a black page and does nothing afterwards [06:42] im not sure that message is the cause of the issue. I recall seeing the same thing on my working systems. [06:42] You may want to try the nomodeset option. or the text based options.. to see if it can boot those ways [06:42] !nomodeset [06:42] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [06:43] how long did you give it? i've seen ubuntu based systems running from USB take as long as 20 minutes to boot [06:43] Hmm. ive ran from normal USB flash drives.. definatly did not take that long. ;) but they are definatly slower then a internal HD. [06:44] actually, it is a USB 3 external one and I had Kubuntu on it and worked very well [06:44] perhaps 3 min here from a external usb flash drive [06:45] Not sure if my system can boot from USB3.. may have to try that this weekend. [06:45] 20 minutes was from a casper system running on a first gen P4 over USB1.1 HDD (single wire for both power & data) [06:45] usb1 ;) *shudder* [06:46] and here we are with usb3 - but esata was supposed to take over.. still waiting for that. === sysadmin is now known as Guest41612 === ericab is now known as ericab_away === Dawn_ is now known as PrincessDaybreak [06:53] so ya think I have to wait until it comes up? [06:56] no you should do a debug startup and watch the boot process [06:57] also check all the connections. last time i had trouble with a USB HDD, it was missing a pin on the USB adapter === debiantoruser is now known as Guest44976 [06:59] how can I look for duplicate videos in a very large data set? I need to look baised on content [07:01] SunStar: how can I do that? [07:04] evenin all [07:07] I just had the xsession-errors shoot up to around 60gb tonight, on my 120gb SSD, so it filled the drive... silly xsessions [07:07] stupid question about fschk, normally, when i want to run it, i do : sudo su to get root, then shutdown -rF now. is there a way to make the server automaticly do a fschk any time its rebooted? [07:07] Oh dear. after an upgrade to 12.04 and a reboot asterisk isn't running at all haha [07:08] ero-jiji: dont use sudo su. just use sudo -i and yes there is... [07:08] !fsck [07:08] fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot [07:08] or wait, it is it just took longer to start than it used to [07:09] Curs0r: it had a busy signal? ;) [07:09] @dr_willis thanks, still got a bit of learning to do ^^ [07:09] @ is for twitter. not IRC also... ;) [07:09] dr_willis, hehe [07:09] dr_W will auto complete my nick on most clients. [07:10] its a mod of my script if i higlight someone and hit reply, using the old UPP with a bunch of mods [07:10] usualy to lazy to type a name haha [07:10] hello any body help me Codeigniter? I have question.. [07:11] gnuskool, rebuilding the dadhi modules now :) [07:11] hello any body help me about Codeigniter? I have question and some problem.. [07:11] hello [07:12] nuli, no need to ask multiple times... [07:13] kalen, I have some question about codeigniter [07:14] nuli, Yes I saw that. This is a channel about Ubuntu though... [07:15] right after an upgrade of packages in 12.04.2 LTS the GUI doesn't start automatically anymore, complaining with being unable to use the correct resolution and prompting for: "Use low graphic mode, ..." but can't pick a choice as the neither the mouse nor the keyboard seem to control that [07:16] I can stll CTRL-ALT-F2, login from terminal and stop/start gdm to get a working DE [07:16] any idea what could have caused this ? [07:16] strk, I just had that problem, but mine happened because the disk was full because .xsession-errors was going crazy and filling up to 60+gb's [07:17] -rw------- 1 strk strk 116482 Mar 5 19:07 .xsession-errors [07:18] yours is fine :) [07:18] 1304420 kb available on the most crowded filesystem [07:18] how to visible .htaccess file on ubuntu??? [07:18] nuli: In what file manager? [07:19] found the unusable prompt to be "zenity" (just killed to confirm) [07:19] that durn zenity [07:19] nuli: Try checking your file manager settings for a "Show hidden files" setting. [07:19] anyone know of file system that can support more than 30tb as a single partition? [07:19] how to setting it??? [07:19] nuli: I wouldn't know, the process is different for different file managers. What file manager are you using? [07:20] I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script. Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that? Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e". Not sure how to get from here to there. Any help? [07:21] sorry im new comer on ubuntu,,, File manager,, what do u mean sir?? [07:21] rsumi: Why not use LVM? Logical Volume Manager. Disclaimer: That's all I know about the subject. [07:21] kalenjohnson: but can't apt-get remove zenity or compiz or unity w/out being prompted to drop "ubuntu-desktop" :/ -- should I drop that ? (I use gnome classic) [07:21] nautilus is the default file manager for Ubuntu/unity/gnome [07:22] strk: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package. its ok to remove it [07:22] i dont see the point in removeing those packages however [07:22] rsumi: zfs? [07:23] ctrl-h in nautilus shows 'hidden files' those starting with a . nuli [07:24] dr_willis: do you have any idea how to debug the problem with zenity being started and not responding to mouse or keyword events then ? [07:24] aka CTRL + (H)ide my porn [07:24] channel.c:5603 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'DAHDI' uh-oh. And it seemed to be going so well [07:24] rsumi: use zfs on freenas [07:24] strk: not heard of any others with that issue. so no idea. not seen it mentioned in here. [07:25] I am setting up a sshd in a chroot, do I need to change the etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key files? [07:25] !info zenity [07:25] zenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.0-2 (quantal), package size 61 kB, installed size 316 kB [07:26] how can I mount a smb share from the GUI to a location so I can then access the share from the CLI? [07:27] symbolic link? [07:27] jeeves_moss: i think nautilys allready puts them in your users .gvfs directory === Swish[\] is now known as Swish [07:27] dr_willis, under the home dir? [07:27] rsumi: The ext4 filesystem can support volumes with sizes up to 1 exbibyte (EiB) and files with sizes up to 16 tebibytes (TiB). Disclaimer: I went to wikipedia for info. You can too! [07:27] jeeves_moss: thats where .gvfs is at.. yes [07:28] dr_willis, thanks [07:28] not in my system [07:28] dr_willis, you 'da man [07:30] !info fusesmb [07:30] fusesmb (source: fusesmb): filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-1.1 (quantal), package size 28 kB, installed size 140 kB [07:31] i wonder how well fusesmb works these days.. i used it for ages.. then it started having issues [07:31] anyone tried it recently? it puts all your windows shares/machines in a 'Directory' that changes as the network changes/shares showup/vanish [07:32] zfs sonds better. lol [07:32] +u [07:32] i dont think zfs is officially in the kernel yet is it? [07:32] !zfs [07:32] For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS [07:32] I think I can feel bits of my brain falling away like so much wet cake [07:32] I could go for some wet cake [07:33] the wet cake is a wet lie. [07:33] ;P [07:33] But so sweet [07:33] "Create the registry string HKCU/Software/Wine/Direct3D/OffscreenRenderingMode and set it to fbo " [07:33] How do I do that? [07:33] damn portal fans are everywhere [07:33] firestorm: #windows is probably a better yet, but "regedit" is prolly what you want. [07:33] I grow further impressed with my inability to master what sounded like such a simple task 10 hours ago lol [07:33] s/yet/bet [07:34] I've put off my simple tasks all day... I figure why do today what I can do this weekend? [07:34] cursor, not working? [07:35] Curs0r: not working? [07:35] I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script. Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that? Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e". Not sure how to get from here to there. Any help? [07:35] gnuskool, your advice worked wonderfully. Now my dear asterisk server is not so well with our friend the card or... something. [07:36] No channels is the cry of asterisk as my software sip client also fails admiraly at nat traversal [07:36] admirably* [07:37] whats the deal with boot-repair? [07:37] But the modules are indeed loaded nad they do load themselves after a reboot, so yay there. The inevitable however is that asterisk seems most displeased with it [07:39] Curs0r: could you wax less poetic and wane more specific? [07:39] I am not prepared to rule out nat traversal being part of the issue in gaining a dahdi channel as it doesn't stay connected to the hold music longer than 60 seconds [07:39] please state your questions in the form of a haiku ..... [07:40] heh [07:40] I literally have not slept in 36 hours, pardon me if get a bit abstract [07:40] I'm pretty sure you found the problem then [07:40] dr_willis, whats up with boot repair? i cant install it- i have added the repo. but its just not in there [07:40] Yes well I'd much rather sleep than deal with this to be sure [07:41] subcool: no idea. could be server is down or getting updated [07:41] Robert Frost had some lofty verbiage about that I think [07:41] I prefer the verbiage of Mr. Freeze [07:41] great- and and one liveusb i do have keeps complaining about closing some software manager :/ [07:42] dr_willis, ^^ [07:42] Hi. Is there a way to disable all effects in unity? I'm running it in a VirtualBox, and it's very slow and compiz takes up one third of the complete memory. [07:42] dr_willis, any particular rreason it would be doing that? [07:42] make sure all rhe apt tols are closed. [07:42] there is a custom boot-repair live cd. [07:43] i freashly booted the usb, and ran the program. and it still said that [07:43] !fixapt [07:43] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [07:43] thanks! [07:45] hi and good morning [07:46] anybody experienced with follwowing setup: RDP-Connection to Ubuntu as VM on a cluster? And time settings in such set ups? [07:46] if I want to add a script on ubuntu bootup, where do I add it ? [07:46] inside /etc/init.d/rc.local ? [07:47] @clody: maybe you can find something here: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown [07:48] how can I find out where my OS is taking the time from?? [07:48] Curs0r: all modules load ok? [07:48] gnuskool, yes that is correct [07:48] FYI: dropping unity* fixed my issue with graphic mode [07:49] Curs0r: im at work man, but i'll try give hints when i can === william is now known as Guest8265 [07:49] clody: depends on what its doing also [07:50] Well I can call my own sip client extension from it. calling the PTSN with my cell doesn't ring my extension so the dahdi isn't happy [07:50] dr_willis, lemme check if this works, brb [07:50] But we knew that so I'm kind of stating the obvious there [07:50] thanks sinnfluter for now [07:51] sinnfluter: do you mean the timezone? or how is it keeping in sync? (like ntp) [07:51] how it is keeping the sync [07:52] because after setting the time manually with sudo date ... [07:52] sinnfluter: do you have ntp and/or ntpd installed? [07:52] ntp [07:52] ntp is installed and there is a /etc/ntp.conf [07:52] sinnfluter: ntpdate should give you the server information [07:53] sinnfluter: did you update them after install? what is your concern? [07:53] it says no servers can be used [07:53] ntpdate [07:54] ntpdate says that the ntp socket is in use [07:54] what is the correct name for "screen docking" I want to enable this is in Ubuntu/Xubuntu [07:55] sinnfluter: ntpdate time-a.nist.gov [07:55] http://pastebin.com/x9jsEa2x is what I get trying to use the dahdi for a dial out [07:55] I think this is an issue of the combination VM, Remote Desktop or so [07:55] sinnfluter: can you pastebin your ntpd.conf? [07:55] I can't use external time servers [07:56] but we have an internal one which has the correct time [07:56] sinnfluter: so you put a real server in the ntpdate command then? ok [07:56] sinnfluter: is it firewalled? [07:57] sinnfluter: port 123 normally, can you telnet to that port on the ntpd server? [07:57] Derp, higher verbosity setting is good for complex problems. man I'm tired lol [07:57] http://pastebin.com/3x6T7fpt [07:58] @AAA I used a real server [08:00] Curs0r: pastebin the output of dahdi_cfg -vv [08:01] sinnfluter: the fallback one works. I'm guessing you have firewall issues [08:01] gnuskool, http://pastebin.com/MB5Ctx8b [08:01] as I said....I can't use external ntp-servers (so the fallback might not work), but I can use the internal ones [08:02] but somehow ntp is not using them...really large offset between the time on ntp servers and my actual time [08:02] 2 hours [08:02] sinnfluter: how often are the crons running on the client machines? [08:03] how to find that out? I've to say I am not very experienced yet... [08:04] sinnfluter: each client (computer,host,server) that needs to rely on that time should run a cron (probably from root) that does an ntp update [08:04] I am just wondering where I get my weird time from.... [08:05] what is a good high quality cell phone that works with ubuntu well? [08:05] dr_willis, ok. i have 2 package that are not fully installed. how do i remove them? - they are causing the error [08:06] subcool: hmm, not sure - i rarely have to fight with apt errors.. apt-get -f install is a normal way to straighten things out [08:06] Okay, last question for wine I hope. [08:06] what packages? [08:06] they really need to make up some apt wizard to help repair apt when it gets confused. or give advice [08:07] because I would just uninstall the two packages [08:07] There are some .dll packages that are called by the .exe in a folder within the program tree [08:07] whats a great vpn service [08:07] How do I add those to wine [08:07] ? [08:07] and basically start over again [08:07] sudo apt-get uninstall and then whatever the packages [08:08] clody: been using digitalocean here. but its a vps ;) but theres a $10 credit cupon/advert on omgubuntu blog site for them. [08:08] AAA: but for testing I could actually fire the ntpdate "servername" command manually [08:08] dr_willis, nah i dont wanna install it- it appears to try to install it- and just wont. i rather remove it from the install list [08:08] Kimera, thanks- ill try it [08:08] it might need to get installed.. then removed.. i rarely fight with apt [08:08] dr_willis, whats difference between vps and vpn ? [08:08] yeah I would also try what dr_willis says [08:08] AAA: but that does not work as the ntp socket is in use...what does that mean? [08:09] clody: i can ssh into my online server and do things. and even setup a web site if i wanted. im running znc on it now. the lowest one is $5 a month. [08:09] Kimera, uninstall is not an option [08:09] remove? [08:09] well, that is why i recommended the sudo apt-get [08:09] though you could try [08:09] clody: a vpn connects more then 1 machine to a virtual private network. ;) never really used that. [08:09] sudo apt-get audoremove [08:09] autoremove [08:09] trid that- didnt work [08:10] dr_willis, hows the service ? bandwidthwise ? [08:10] sinnfluter: is ntpd running on the machine you are trying to update from another server? [08:10] clody: all i do is run znc on it. so cant say its been an issue. [08:10] dr_willis, if I check my gmail using vpn will it think I am logging from different country ? [08:11] clody: no idea. I dont use vpns [08:11] okk [08:11] clody: you could use a ssh tunnle to the vps i imagine. :) if thats what you want [08:11] or X forwarding.. [08:11] i want a vpn, maybe max 2 machines will use it [08:12] my gmail was hacked .....i hate it [08:12] AAA: how can I find out if ntpd is running? [08:12] sinnfluter: sudo ps aux |grep ntp [08:12] you might be able to set up openvpn on the thing.. only other thing ive used was btguardian (or btguard?) a year+ ago.. its not what you are looking for howevver. ;) [08:12] subcool, can you find the packages in the software center [08:13] cause if not, ever though about trying to complete the installations [08:13] dr_willis, what is bitguardin good for ? [08:13] torrent ? [08:13] i just used remove [08:13] because if the packages are in the software center [08:13] sorry for the dumb q's - i just dont wanna break it badly [08:13] there are really easy to remove [08:13] clody: yep. [08:14] im recovering from some randomd mess up [08:14] I could help better if I knew what the specific packages were [08:14] http://pastebin.com/pn0TsjfC is what I get for ntp-processes [08:14] some linux-image-kernel#-gnereic [08:14] dr_willis, where are the servers ? [08:14] clody: seems you can set up openvpn on digitalocean.. from what i just googled. [08:14] i was trying to install pastebinit- and it requited those packages [08:14] and then failed [08:14] idk= [08:14] its a liveusb [08:14] things are funky [08:14] subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:14] clody: check the digitalocean homepage.. they got some in New York and some others in Europe i belive [08:15] ahh, I wouldn't have had the balls to mess with something like that [08:15] hahah - it still errored [08:15] this usb need a reflash anyways- :/ [08:15] well my last ditch suggestion [08:16] AAA: so it seems that ntpd is running [08:16] is wiping your system completely and reinstalling ubuntu if its causing any major difficulty [08:16] sinnfluter: is that one of your private ntpd servers? [08:16] yeas [08:16] cayse it sounds like, you went into some higher terminal functions then I ever mess with [08:16] yes [08:16] haha- Kimera already on it- i just reinstall 12.04 because my networking got fungled somehow [08:16] #3333333333 [08:16] sinnfluter: is the time wrong there? [08:17] then again I don't do networking [08:17] its called ntp [08:17] I use ubuntu cause I like it more then apple or microsoft [08:17] Kimera, same- im trying ot keep on it- but some stuff just doesnt work [08:18] once i setup my laptops up- ill be setting up a mac on one. [08:18] dr_willis, thanks lemme check [08:18] but- im running into way to many issues [08:18] AAA: I don't think that the time is wrong at the server "ntp"...but how can I just read that time? [08:18] like with installation, or modificiation? [08:19] sinnfluter: with date? I'm not sure what you mean [08:20] <_ingsoc> Hello, I was wondering where I could find Ubuntu's freetype2 patches? Are they hosted somewhere? [08:20] AAA: no I want to read the time of our internal ntp server to see if this is correct [08:20] <_ingsoc> I know there are the Infinality patches, but I want to try the Ubuntu equivalent. [08:20] AAA: with date I get the time of my machine [08:21] freetype2 [08:21] ain't that the microsoft fonts for office [08:22] <_ingsoc> No, I'm referring to the patches for this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/freetype that Ubuntu uses. [08:23] its still complaining about closing package managers. :/ [08:24] sinnfluter: ntpdate -q