[00:02] <belgianguy> my my, there's plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth because of Mir
[00:02] <belgianguy> why's everyone so upset?
[00:02] <colemorales> sooo im trying to make my mac into a ubuntu computer but when i try to boot from the usb stick i made after i click intall ubuntu it just stays at a blank screen
[00:03] <colemorales> its very frustrating
[00:03] <colemorales> has anyone else had this problem
[00:03] <MoPac> belgianguy: I haven't studied Mir in a lot of depth: I'm just hoping that it doesn't end up pushing me into a tiled-or-fullscreen setup on my desktop the way it is on my phone or on Windows 8.  I'm a diehard multiwindow multitasker
[00:04] <belgianguy> MoPac: as am I, but the little preview I saw was a tablet interface and something running Unity inside of mir
[00:05] <__dan__> belgianguy: probably because canonical have a reputation of being slightly arrogant (unity, anyone?) and seem to like going off doing their own thing rather than play with others
[00:06] <__dan__> see also: upstart
[00:06] <__dan__> hehe
[00:07] <MoPac> belgianguy: Right, but what I'm wondering is: is Canonical going to make it either resource- or configuration-intensive or app-breaking for me to run a standard old-school desktop at some point?
[00:07] <fertaku__> Hola
[00:07] <MoPac> belgianguy: case in point: ideally, I would want to run Cinnamon rather than Unity.  But because I have to layer it on top of all the other Ubuntu stuff that is meant to hook into Unity, it's actually such a nightmare in terms of both config and resource use that I have just ended up using Unity instead.
[00:07] <MoPac> I'm apprehensive that I might end up pushed through the same experience in a more dramatic way of Ubuntu goes the way of Windows 8 and ends up super determined to make my 16.4-inch screen experience the same as my 4-inch screen experience
[00:07] <MoPac> *if Ubuntu
[00:08] <DAL|Desktop> I'm running 10.04 LTS, will I break anything horribly if I uninstall the synaptic libc6 and manually install version 2.15+?
[00:08] <kostkon> !ot | belgianguy, MoPac, __dan__
[00:08] <__dan__> thank the lord for KDE, eh? ;)
[00:08] <bekks> DAL|Desktop: Yes.
[00:09] <DAL|Desktop> bekks, I'll need to update to the lastest LTS to install Steam then?
[00:09] <bekks> DAL|Desktop: Yes.
[00:09] <DAL|Desktop> Thanks.
[00:10] <kostkon> DAL|Desktop, yes, you need at least 12.04 in order to run steam
[00:10] <zimzum77> ubuntu plays windows game well??
[00:11] <kostkon> !wine | zimzum77
[00:11] <__dan__> zimzum77: I was just playing fallout 2 on my kubuntu machine earlier :)
[00:12] <zimzum77> NICE, i'm waitn for simcity, which i think is tomorrow
[00:12] <kostkon> zimzum77, the new sim city will have a linux version yes
[00:12] <__dan__> in the meantime, there are a couple of open source simcity variants you might like to try :)
[00:12] <MoPac> Is there any GUI for devilspie2?  The set_viewport function on devilspie seems to be totally broken, and I've run out of ideas after doing window rules in Compiz turned out to be hellish
[00:13] <zimzum77> really?? i'll have to go look
[00:13] <zimzum77> and them are open source too?
[00:13] <__dan__> yeah i think it's called lincity
[00:13] <__dan__> originally enough :)
[00:13] <__dan__> not sure whether the monster is a 40-foot penguin though
[00:13] <prafulrana> Hey guys how do I set a global ulimit for no of file descriptors ?
[00:13] <zimzum77> hhaha  WUT??
[00:14] <__dan__> haha just saying, if i coded it, the monster would definitely be a 40-foot penguin
[00:14] <zimzum77> LOL  nice
[00:14] <__dan__> and it would only stomp on windows users
[00:14] <zimzum77> : )
[00:14] <__dan__> haha
[00:14] <kostkon> __dan__, we are talking about this :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCity_%282013_video_game%29
[00:14] <zimzum77> YES!!
[00:15] <zimzum77> kostkon,  YUP :)   that is it
[00:15] <__dan__> yeah i meant this http://freecode.com/projects/lincity-ng
[00:17] <zimzum77> that  looks cool i'll give it a try
[00:18] <__dan__> been a while since i played a game like that
[00:18] <classic> hola
[00:19] <__dan__> prefer the counterstrike series and star trek online :)
[00:19] <classic> Necesito ayuda para usar ubuntu server
[00:19] <classic> Ya lo tengo instalado, pero que hago ahora.
[00:19] <__dan__> sorry classic no habla espanol
[00:19] <kostkon> zimzum77, fyi, the original sim city is in the repos
[00:19] <kostkon> !info micropolis
[00:20] <zimzum77> nice
[00:20] <zimzum77> : )
[00:20] <Apes> Does it have angry Wright?
[00:20] <classic> i have install ubuntu server, but not understand how work
[00:20] <__dan__> i had the first simcity on the amiga but for me, the proper one was simcity 2000
[00:20] <kostkon> Apes, no clue :(
[00:20] <xFertaku> Omg.
[00:20] <Random832> kostkon: holy crap
[00:21] <xFertaku> It have been years since I used irc.
[00:21] <xFertaku> lol
[00:21] <kostkon> Random832, :P
[00:21] <nobotty> nostalgia :)
[00:21] <xFertaku> Indeed.
[00:21] <__dan__> having quite a retro moment in here tonight :)
[00:22] <caravel> hello everyone \o/
[00:22] <__dan__> lets all manually set our IRQs with jumpers
[00:22] <__dan__> eheh
[00:22] <xFertaku> Hello! :D
[00:22] <__dan__> hi caravel
[00:22] <caravel> Are there known issues with latest updates of libssl/openssl/whatever is using Evolution to validate server certs on... 10.04 ? :)
[00:23] <caravel> I get these in loops immediately after applying updates http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-yh1962
[00:23] <Bray90820> so i just installed another linux disto alongside ubuntu 12.04 how would i update grub so i can boot the other one
[00:23] <p0s> __dan__: i found a package which does the job of tuning the powertop tunables automatically at booting. laptop-mode-tools it is.
[00:23] <p0s> __dan__: requires no configuration at all
[00:23] <caravel> [...] (both providers, Free.fr and Gmail.com)
[00:23] <__dan__> awesome p0s :) thanks for taking the time to let me know :)
[00:24] <p0s> __dan__: you helped me as well :)
[00:25] <__dan__> cool just having a look at it now :)
[00:25] <__dan__> caravel: i wonder if your trusted root certificates are out of date or something
[00:25] <__dan__> caravel: the error message doesnt really tell you much :/
[00:25] <Bray90820> anyone know how i would update grub to see my other linux partitions
[00:26] <caravel> __dan__: well, it says the signature isn't valid
[00:26] <caravel> __dan__: and I'd doubt my old mother suddenly got the victim of a MITM attack right at the time I updated the stuff :)
[00:27] <__dan__> hahaha
[00:27] <caravel> from the dpkg log:
[00:27] <caravel> 2013-03-05 23:25:29 upgrade openssl 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.14
[00:27] <caravel> 2013-03-05 23:23:50 upgrade libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.14
[00:27] <caravel> (and no particular errors)
[00:28] <caravel> evolution itself wasn't upgraded
[00:28] <zimzum77> retro, i see in game some OLD SCHOOL  SNES!!
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> Bray90820, ideally, `sudo update-grub`, but that assumes there's OSes on the other partitions.
[00:29] <John12> um is there any mods here?
[00:29] <Bray90820> TheLordOfTime there is
[00:29] <John12> or some one that really want to help some one..
[00:29] <Bray90820> i installed android
[00:29] <__dan__> caravel: my guess is, there will be another update in a few days, and that error message will disappear ;)
[00:30] <Bray90820> i already tried sudo update-grub and grub doesn't even popup when i restart
[00:30] <caravel> __dan__: huh, that's first time I see such thing on a LTS
[00:30]  * caravel was lucky maybe ? :)
[00:30] <__dan__> haha thats one way of looking at it :)
[00:30] <caravel> __dan__: and... is 10.04 still getting sec updates?
[00:30] <__dan__> caravel: i'm not sure to be honest, maybe not on the desktop anymore
[00:31] <caravel> thought it was EOL by now, and that I had applied the last bunch
[00:31] <Bray90820> TheLordOfTime what i'm thinking is Android removed grub
[00:31] <caravel> ok thanks __dan__
[00:31] <caravel> maybe, many users will panic in turn soon :)
[00:32] <TheLordOfTime> Bray90820, Wait, are you on a tablet or something?
[00:32] <__dan__> caravel: yeah haha, maybe an upgrade to 12.04 is in order :)
[00:32] <caravel> sure that's planed __dan__, I only miss a plane ticket :)
[00:32] <__dan__> ahhhh haha i understand :)
[00:32]  * caravel won't risk it over ssh, not brave enough (or too much experience hahahaha)
[00:33] <Bray90820> i am on a touchscreen netbook
[00:33] <guideX> how do I always open something as root, say gedit
[00:33] <__dan__> yeah I would hesitate ... although my experience of version upgrades on kubuntu has been very good
[00:33] <guideX> in windows for instance there's a run as administrator option
[00:33] <__dan__> guideX: i think it's gksu under gnome / unity
[00:33] <guideX> oh i'm using xfce
[00:34] <guideX> sorry
[00:34] <__dan__> try gksu anyway
[00:34] <guideX> ok
[00:34] <__dan__> i'm more familiar with kde :)
[00:34] <caravel> __dan__: my alternative strategy is to train my sister a little more on shell :) screen -S is good but I still feel she's got a little more way to go :)
[00:35] <guideX> hmm it only works on the first load
[00:35] <Bray90820> TheLordOfTime do you know why grub won't even show up after teh android install
[00:35] <guideX> so when I close it, and reopen it is running under my context again
[00:35] <guideX> or is there a way to set the whole directory i'm in for me to be able to write to it?
[00:36] <caravel> guideX: you might want to avoid this generally
[00:36] <__dan__> caravel: sounds like your sister is already more useful than some windows admins hahah
[00:36] <caravel> I mean, opening any X stuff as root
[00:36] <guideX> well how else can I edit a file without dropping to the terminal?
[00:36] <__dan__> gksu gedit /etc/yourfile.txt
[00:37] <caravel> __dan__: yeah, I got her to self install her 12-04 on full luks :D
[00:37] <guideX> well yeah but, that only works the first time, I must open the terminal every time to do it
[00:37] <TheLordOfTime> Bray90820, no, because I've never installed android alongside Ubuntu.  you may want to wait for someone more knowledgeable.
[00:37] <__dan__> so run gksu gedit
[00:37] <__dan__> then open the files you want from within gedit and keep it running
[00:37] <caravel> guideX: worst case, you could stick some extension for your gnome-shell or whatever DE you use
[00:37] <Bray90820> i could just wipe grub from my /boot partition and reinstall it
[00:38] <__dan__> isn't there an option in xubuntu to run a root file explorer?
[00:38] <caravel> i.e. right click > open as root
[00:38] <__dan__> or whatever its called?
[00:38] <guideX> hmm that's an idea..
[00:38] <__dan__> pcfm innit?
[00:38] <guideX> it's weird how i can't edit the file, yet it's in my home directory
[00:38] <guideX> is this a glitch of some kind or
[00:38] <__dan__> permissions probably set to root for that file individually
[00:38] <__dan__> chown is your friend
[00:38] <__dan__> and ls -l
[00:39] <penth> ls -l and check permissions.
[00:39] <caravel> guideX: and I remember also a panel applet for this (you could drag stuff, it would pass it to gksu/whatever needed)
[00:39] <guideX> oh cool
[00:39] <guideX> i'll check that out too
[00:39] <mguy> Is there a good CPU/RAM monitor that I can put in my menubar or whatever it is with the clock etc
[00:39] <guideX> oh you're right, the whole folder is root
[00:39] <caravel> guideX: but please avoid the "always open as root" track, for your own good
[00:39] <guideX> because root created
[00:40] <guideX> ah there's no security needed here, it's a dev server :D
[00:40] <penth> mguy, I don't know about the notification bar, but conky is great for that sort of thing
[00:40] <guideX> so if the permissions are set to root, how do I change to me?
[00:40] <guideX> because it's in my home folder.. so I meant for it to be me
[00:41] <WeThePeople> is it possible to route audio to the rj11 output?
[00:41] <WeThePeople> on ubuntu
[00:41] <guideX> if I right click and choose properties, I can't edit the permissions on the permissions tab, it's grayed out
[00:41] <Bray90820> TheLordOfTime i could uninstall and reinstall grub
[00:41] <__dan__> did you try running your file manager as root?
[00:42] <guideX> hmm I don't know how to run the file manager from the terminal...
[00:42] <guideX> I know how to sudo su and such..
[00:42] <guideX> but I don't know the command for file manager
[00:43] <John12> can some one tell me how in the world i can install the ubuntu on my phone
[00:43] <guideX> do you know what it is?
[00:43] <__dan__> nor do i on xfce
[00:43] <guideX> ah ok
[00:43] <John12> do i hack the phone
[00:43] <John12> do i buy a other phone or what?
[00:43] <__dan__> guideX: thunar?
[00:43] <John12> i keep geting errors
[00:44] <__dan__> John12: you might want to stop by xda-developers
[00:44] <guideX> ah ok
[00:44] <guideX> cool
[00:44] <John12> same thing
[00:44] <John12> i get status 7 error
[00:44] <John12> assert failed getprop
[00:45]  * __dan__ gets a whiff of a small green man
[00:45] <zimzum77> mguy, i think maybe this?? http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[00:45] <mguy> penth: indicator-multiload is what I went with
[00:46] <John12> you think the ubuntu not out yet for the android?
[00:46] <__dan__> some android phones / tablets will allow a ubuntu chroot
[00:46] <__dan__> ie. running ubuntu from within android
[00:47] <__dan__> i had it working on my hp touchpad a while back
[00:47] <John12> i have nexus s 4g
[00:47] <John12> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup
[00:47] <__dan__> but it was hard work
[00:47] <John12> i done that, but again, it saids that error when i upload it to my sdcard
[00:47] <__dan__> i dunno man
[00:48] <guideX> is there another way to do it? changing the permissions in a root thunar session isn't working
[00:48] <__dan__> and on that note i think i will bid you guys farewell
[00:48] <__dan__> good night all :)
[00:48] <zimzum77> mguy,  sry this is what you want         http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html
[00:48] <guideX> cya dan..
[00:48] <zimzum77> peace
[00:48] <guideX> does anyone know a way to change folder/file permissions?
[00:48] <guideX> i'm having a hellofatime
[00:48] <mguy> guideX: chmod
[00:49] <guideX> hmm ok
[00:49] <Jeruvy> guideX chown
[00:49] <guideX> hmm crap, I don't know how to use it.. how do you get help from these?
[00:50] <mguy> guideX: type 'man chown' at the terminal
[00:50] <mguy> Better yet google 'filesystem permissions linux'
[00:50] <John12> btw
[00:50] <guideX> ah ok cool
[00:50] <John12> is this room a scam? #ubuntu-touch
[00:50] <John12> i'm trying to report it, but i can't
[00:50] <kostkon> John12, ??
[00:51] <John12> i can't report the room for bots
[00:51] <alainus> i want to try kde but not sure whether to do a clean install of kubuntu. is it safe to just do sudo apt-get install kde-full ?
[00:51] <kostkon> John12, it's the official channel for ubuntu touch
[00:51] <John12> it's like then join and leave and joinh and leave
[00:51] <guideX> hmm it says "Invalid User"
[00:51] <guideX> when I try chown /u guiideX
[00:51] <guideX> err guideX
[00:52] <guideX> know what i'm doing wrong?
[00:52] <mguy> You would use 'chown guideX somefile'
[00:52] <guideX> ah ok
[00:53] <mguy> But that's changing the owner not the permissions.
[00:53] <guideX> hmm maybe it'd be easier to delete everything and download again..
[00:53] <mguy> What are you trying to do?
[00:53] <guideX> well I can't change any files or folders in my home directory
[00:53] <guideX> unless I sudo in the terminal
[00:54] <mguy> Go to the /home directory (not /home/guidex) and type in ls -l, what's the line look like with your home folder on it
[00:54] <guideX> so I keep shelling to terminal, then running geany, then closing it, repeat, it's taking forever
[00:54] <guideX> hm ok
[00:55] <guideX> hmm it says drwxr-xr-x 28
[00:55] <mguy> What's the whole line?
[00:56] <dr_willis> the full output.. will tell owership then group
[00:56] <berto-> anyone familiar with setting up networking for lxc that works in a virtualbox vm?
[00:56] <nathwill> hi all, i'm stuck with adding a statusnet account to gwibber. the old accounts screen has been replaced by the online accounts section, which doesn't reference statusnet at all
[00:56] <guideX> hmm it's drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 mar 6 00:34
[00:56] <mguy> guideX: Paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:56] <guideX> for most of the stuff
[00:56] <dr_willis> guideX:  and whats your users name?
[00:56] <mguy> guideX:  That file is owned by root - you probably wnt to change that
[00:56] <guideX> guideX
[00:56] <dr_willis> arent user names all lower case?
[00:57] <ner0x> Can anyone suggest a financial manager that can connect to your bank account and also allow you to attach scans/invoices to certain purchases?
[00:57] <guideX> hmm dunno...
[00:57] <mguy> chown -R guidex:guidex guidex
[00:57] <guideX> hmm ok cool let me try that
[00:57] <dr_willis> !permissiona | guideX
[00:57] <dr_willis> !permissions | guideX
[00:57] <mguy> sudo chown that is...
[00:58] <guideX> oo i think it worked
[00:58] <guideX> yep it worked, thanks :)
[00:58] <dr_willis> you need to set the owner of your users files to be owned by  tghe user and group  'guidex'
[00:58] <mguy> What did you do to screw it up?
[00:58] <guideX> well nothing seems to work unless I sudo su first, so that's my usual workaround
[00:58] <dr_willis> no idea why things would get owned by root. unless you moved things from a usb, or other ways as root
[00:59] <guideX> for instance, I can't do anythign with svn unless I sudo su
[00:59] <dr_willis> guideX:  do NOT use sudo su. use the normal sudo -s or sudo -i
[00:59] <guideX> ah ok
[00:59] <guideX> I was unaware
[00:59] <dr_willis> and you really shouldent need to be root to use svn UNLESS your permerssions and ownership of files are wrong to begin with
[01:00] <guideX> well most of my files are coming from svn
[01:00] <guideX> so I'm not sure how it's bringing them down..
[01:00] <guideX> I thinmk the files were in windows before that
[01:00] <MysticalBurrito[> Back, my mom nagged me about my homework for a while >_>
[01:00] <dr_willis> i would suggest reading up on that permissions wiki page to learn about them. I dont use svn so no idea on any good guides on it.
[01:00] <dr_willis> !svn
[01:01] <guideX> it's a way to download and upload source code, go back to older versions, etc
[01:01] <guideX> I wouldn't use it if i had a choice heh..
[01:01] <dr_willis> and it dosent make much sence that it needs to be ran as root.
[01:02] <guideX> the windowed version doesn't have to, but for xfce there isn't a windowed version of it, just the terminal.. anyhow, the command works fine, so i can just alter the permissions after svning moving forward
[01:02] <guideX> kinda silly, that's ok
[01:02] <guideX> I will read up on that page though
[01:02] <dr_willis> sounds more likle theres somthing fundamentally wrong about how you are doing things..
[01:03] <dr_willis> just because its a cli interface dosent mean it runs as root.
[01:03] <guideX> probably true
[01:03] <dr_willis> and there may  be gui front ends out for it.
[01:03] <guideX> oh of course
[01:03] <guideX> not for xfce :(
[01:03] <guideX> I wish
[01:04] <guideX> there's on for unity and gnome
[01:04] <dr_willis> err.. you can run gnome and kde apps in xfce
[01:04] <dr_willis> and visa versa
[01:04] <dr_willis> makes no differance
[01:04] <dr_willis> xfce is like 60% gnome to begin with
[01:04] <guideX> ill have to figure that out, currently, it only works in gnome + unity
[01:04] <guideX> in xfce it doesn't sjhow up in the menus at all
[01:04] <dr_willis> install the app.. it pulls in needed items.. run it from terminal if you cant find the icon
[01:05] <dasound08> Hello and good evening..
[01:05] <guideX> oh right, but it's a shell integration usuyally
[01:05] <guideX> it shows up automatically in the menus for me,
[01:05] <guideX> if it's not there, it's just not heh
[01:05] <dr_willis> you mean in the file manager? you can run nautilus in xfce if you wanted to
[01:05] <dasound08> is anyone having issues with flash player in 12.04lts
[01:05] <guideX> oh cool maybe that's why
[01:06] <dasound08> It is not allowing me to play sound in browser
[01:06] <mguy> dasound08: Are you using the one in Chrome or the plugin
[01:07] <dasound08> I have used both.. neither are working..
[01:09] <mguy> Do you have ANY sound in your system?
[01:09] <dr_willis> ive noticed flash seems to have its own volume controlls for me - differnt then the normal system/gnome volumes..   i can mute the system sounds, vlc and so forth.. and flash still makes noise.. sometimes it gets reversed..  flash is muted.. but others play. ;) i recall twiddling with the volume slider in the flash videos..  that may  not be the same issue as you are having.
[01:11] <guideX> also is there a way to fix the scrollwheel in ubuntu 12.10?
[01:11] <guideX> it seems like it's not working anywhere..
[01:12] <Maverick|420> server montreal.qc.ca.undernet.org
[01:13] <guideX> nope freenode :D
[01:13] <dr_willis> guideX:  works for most people.. you may want to check at askubuntu.com to see if any known issues/troubleshooting guides are out for that issue
[01:13] <guideX> ok cool
[01:14] <guideX> maybe it's because i'm in virtualbox...
[01:14] <guideX> i'll try the askubuntu
[01:15] <dr_willis> dont forget the vbox guest addations
[01:15] <guideX> oh I can't install them, I tried that.. upon installing the guest addons, the virtual machine freezes then never boots again
[01:15] <guideX> tried several times heh
[01:20] <aiFrantz> hi (don't know what to do and I'm feeling bored)
[01:20] <guideX> I get that alot heh
[01:20] <guideX> recently I said that in an irc channel and someone said, "learn c++" so I did heh
[01:21] <aiFrantz> hehe..
[01:21] <aiFrantz> c++ is way too mainstream.
[01:21] <aiFrantz> we need something novel though..
[01:21] <Trojan-Script1> I UCCN alerts Flooding
[01:21] <Trojan-Script1> ?
[01:22] <guideX> trojan-script: my irc client blocked your query request lol
[01:22] <Trojan-Script1> ^o)
[01:22] <fertaku> :)
[01:22] <fertaku> xD
[01:23] <aiFrantz> *ehem* who is in the middle of class now? (like me for instance)
[01:23] <guideX> i'm at work
[01:23] <aiFrantz> bless you because you aren't drilled by the lecturer to write stuffs
[01:23] <zimzum77> no one in middle class, no such thing
[01:23] <aiFrantz> no such thing as in? zimzum77
[01:24] <zimzum77> middle class
[01:24] <aiFrantz> oh, sorry..
[01:24] <zimzum77> sorry man, i jumped the gun
[01:24] <aiFrantz> *in the class* I mean
[01:24] <zimzum77> my bad : p
[01:24] <aiFrantz> my bad too..
[01:25] <aiFrantz> can someone set up CS server so I can shoot to ease my tension?
[01:25] <aiFrantz> ...or, our tension
[01:25] <aiFrantz> oh, btw... here is like GMT +8
[01:25] <zimzum77> does  any one  know, do these  work like win gagets
[01:25] <zimzum77> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/07/conky-collection-for-ubuntulinux.html
[01:26] <aiFrantz> checkin'
[01:26] <dr_willis> conky is not a gadget
[01:26] <dr_willis> its more of a sysrem monitor
[01:26] <aiFrantz> yea, conky is not a gadget
[01:27] <zimzum77> ok, but  they  monitor
[01:27] <zimzum77> right on
[01:27] <aiFrantz> I think it is more like to beautify the desktop with circles, beeps and stuffs
[01:27] <zimzum77> haha
[01:28] <dr_willis> conky has been around for ages..
[01:28] <aiFrantz> real men dont use gadgets.. they use conky
[01:28] <zimzum77> what  the diff, between terminal, x terminal, and ux terminal??
[01:28] <aiFrantz> because windows gadgets are too mainstream... well, are they?
[01:28] <RxDalfZ> LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO
[01:28] <RxDalfZ> LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO
[01:28] <RxDalfZ> LOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOODSFLOO
[01:28] <FloodBot1> RxDalfZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:29] <dr_willis> zimzum77:  feature set.
[01:29] <aiFrantz> xterminal is the x's terminal.. I mean, the Xorg.
[01:29] <dr_willis> xterm has been the standard for decades
[01:29] <zimzum77> so they can do differt commands??
[01:30] <dr_willis> they run the same stuffs
[01:30] <zimzum77> bear wit me , i noob
[01:30] <aiFrantz> yeah, they can run the same stuffs..
[01:30] <dr_willis> !terminal
[01:30] <guideX> i'm surprised people don't use the geany terminal :D
[01:30] <aiFrantz> zimzum77 there is no such thing as "noob".. only less educated :P
[01:30] <dr_willis> never noticed or needed geany for a termibal
[01:30] <aiFrantz> hehe.. no offense, and I'm bored to death.
[01:31] <aiFrantz> so, bear with me..
[01:31] <dr_willis> i tend to use   terminator
[01:31] <zimzum77> hahaha, that be me
[01:31] <guideX> dr_willis: at the bottom of the geany window, there's several buttons "status", "compiler", "message"
[01:31] <guideX> and terminal
[01:31] <aiFrantz> dr_willis everyone says so.. terminator is kinda a great terminal emulator though
[01:31] <guideX> so it's like an integrated terminal window :) pretty cool
[01:31] <dr_willis> i rarely code.
[01:31] <guideX> ah ok
[01:32] <dr_willis> at one time nautilus had a terminal on a f key.
[01:32] <dr_willis> but i got removed i recall
[01:32] <aiFrantz> dr_willis: we can customize that hotkeys thingy, can't we?
[01:32] <aiFrantz> I had done this before on something other than nautilus
[01:33] <aiFrantz> pcmanfm if I'm not mistaken
[01:33] <dr_willis> different filemanagers may have the feature
[01:33] <aiFrantz> ahh I see
[01:33] <aiFrantz> so.. then, what's your preference? I bet nobody likes nautilus.
[01:33] <aiFrantz> in term of responsiveness, I mean
[01:36] <dr_willis> nautilus works fine for most people
[01:37] <aiFrantz> so, everyone.. have all of you heard about the new server, called as Mir?
[01:37] <aiFrantz> canonical wanna replace xorg with Mir
[01:37] <dr_willis> bbl. got a job to do.
[01:37] <aiFrantz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec MirSpec
[01:38] <aiFrantz> dr_willis: have a nice day ! :)
[01:40] <|Anthony|> I'm having trouble getting a samba share to work with ubuntu as the server and debian as the client
[01:40] <|Anthony|> i can connect, but it's a user permissions issue i'm having
[01:40] <|Anthony|> any pointers?
[01:41] <aiFrantz> hurm... ubuntu = samba server, debian = client? hurm.. ok (I thought people use debian for server stuffs... lol)
[01:41] <|Anthony|> lol
[01:41] <|Anthony|> yeah, it's an odd use case here for sure
[01:41] <|Anthony|> funny thing is that the deb box is a server
[01:41] <|Anthony|> i need it to do backups to my desktop
[01:41] <|Anthony|> lol
[01:41] <aiFrantz> nearly got puked.. if it is Windows, I might be dead now..
[01:42] <aiFrantz> erm.. sorry. I'm no expert for this.... just wandering around for fun..
[01:43] <ubuntu-newb> is there any guide to using dual monitors with intel hd3000 somewhere?
[01:43] <CazyArsMut> hello, can someone help me out? crackle and youtube and hulu full screen all make my computer go dead. - i think it is my cheappy 310m nvidia graphics ion little chip.
[01:43] <aiFrantz> ubuntu-newb: maybe you can try something like xrandr or grandr setting
[01:43] <aiFrantz> I experimented dual-monitor thingy on nVidia 8400gs by using xrandr-grandr
[01:44] <ubuntu-newb> xrandr is just temporary... i want it to be permanent
[01:44] <aiFrantz> maybe you can google it :)
[01:44] <aiFrantz> hrm.. so, xrandr kinda bothering you? eh?
[01:44] <aiFrantz> don't know how to turn it on permanently
[01:44] <aiFrantz> sorry :'(
[01:44] <ubuntu-newb> well the desktop does not scale to the resolution...
[01:45] <ubuntu-newb> so it is just up in the corner after i changed the resolution
[01:45] <CazyArsMut> yup i am not the only one with graphics issues
[01:45] <[Saint]> Most monitors have an "auto" mode that should "just work" there.
[01:45] <ubuntu-newb> I should write and xorg.conf but it has been ages since i did dual monitors on linux and also that time it was with an nvidia card
[01:46] <ubuntu-newb> [Saint]: The problem is i have to set modelines manually for the large screen as DPMS still does not work properly in linux.
[01:46] <ubuntu-newb> so i probably need an xorg.conf anyways
[01:46] <[Saint]> Occasionally when I change resolutions or add/remove a monitor (triple head setup with a laptop) the resolution goes all weird - I just have to hit "auto" on the display.
[01:46] <[Saint]> I guess I'm lucky.
[01:47] <Kion> I am trying to do an apt-get update but get this error and the process stops
[01:47] <Kion> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[01:47] <Kion> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en
[01:47] <CazyArsMut> my monitor goes black and sound goes out all of a sudden when watching a hulu or youtube vid, after about 10 minuets
[01:47] <ubuntu-newb> xrandr claims my large screen can only do 1024x769 whilst it does 2536x* in windows
[01:47] <Kion> any help please?
[01:48] <CazyArsMut> sorry kion - past my skill sthere - but let me look in, might find you a clue
[01:48] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to remove and reinstall grub from ubuntu
[01:48] <[Saint]> Boot-Repair
[01:49] <[Saint]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:49] <Kion> CazyArsMut: thanks, the last line reads:  Could not analyze or read the lists of packages or the state file.
[01:49] <CazyArsMut> Kion, did you try to use the updater gui?
[01:50] <Kion> CazyArsMut: first thing in the morning the auto update process went and told me of an error, then I tried in a terminal!
[01:50] <[Saint]> Kion: I take it this was your first stop?
[01:51] <[Saint]> if you google "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-en" exactly, you'll find it hasd been answered multiple times.
[01:51] <[Saint]> Protip: Google first ;)
[01:51] <Kion> [Saint]: sorry I don't know why I didn't think of googoling it first!
[01:51] <CazyArsMut> when that happens to me, i just restart, then let everything load for a min then sign in, then let everything catch up again, then run the uploader again, be patient, select to install updates and if it does it again, i'm lost Kion
[01:52] <Kion> CazyArsMut: Did that, with the same bad result
[01:52] <CazyArsMut> Kion, that method has worked for me without fail
[01:52] <CazyArsMut> danget
[01:52] <MatthewL> !yum
[01:52] <[Saint]> http://goo.gl/4Fw6y <-- there you go ;)
[01:52] <CazyArsMut> ok
[01:53] <MatthewL> I love you,  ubottu
[01:53] <CazyArsMut> Kion could no read....states of file - it looks like you don't have the packages for the files, or looks like you have lost some data in the, i want to say 'grub' but i dont think that's it.
[01:53] <raj> where do I find the package libperl-text-aspell ?
[01:54] <CazyArsMut> Kion, did you get the restricted updates?
[01:54] <dibblego> hello, when I plug in an external blu-ray writer (Samsung SE-506AB) I do not see it listed in lsusb — is this because of some proprietary software needed?
[01:54] <CazyArsMut> you might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion
[01:55] <CazyArsMut> dibblego, did you pop a blank dick in there and see what happenned?
[01:55] <CazyArsMut> omg  so sorry
[01:55] <dibblego> Yes
[01:55] <dibblego> haha
[01:55] <CazyArsMut> sdisk, disk
[01:55] <Kion> CazyArsMut: I think i got the restricted updates, and I didnt install anything between now and last successfull update
[01:55] <dibblego> well no, but I put a disk in there instead!
[01:56] <CazyArsMut> hahaha
[01:56] <CazyArsMut> yikes
[01:56] <CazyArsMut> sorry
[01:56] <[Saint]> [14:54:40] <CazyArsMut> you might be trying to update a program that needs those updates prior to running Kion  <--- if that's the case, then, it is incredibly broken. As it should make sure of its dependencies.
[01:56] <CazyArsMut> i dont know what to say dibblego
[01:56] <maxb> My SE-506AB just worked without additional config (except for bluray video of course)
[01:56] <[Saint]> that's a convoluted way of me saying "almost certainly not the cause"
[01:57] <CazyArsMut> but Kion you can make sure by openning software center, then typing 'restricted' and checking if there is a little green checkmark next to it
[01:57] <Kion> [Saint]: But I have not installed any new program !
[01:57] <dibblego> maxb: oh ok thanks, maybe some other problem then
[01:57] <Kion> CazyArsMut: The software center will not open anymore because of the same problem
[01:57] <Kion> CazyArsMut: it crashes!
[01:58] <CazyArsMut> yeah yeah - that's probably it - i would remove it Kion and then get the updates - or rad a bit more up on it's 'dependencies' then try to run it again after they have been met - Kion
[01:58] <[Saint]> Awwwwwwwwww....what :-S
[01:58] <[Saint]> I thought 13.04 gave me back the weather icon gadget...but it's a silly Ubuntu One thingy :P
[01:58] <Kion> CazyArsMut: remove what?
[01:58]  * [Saint] wants his weather gadget back
[01:59] <CazyArsMut> crap Kion - all i can tell you is that you should get an ssd and a fast processor and fast ram - 8gb preffered - and then run a new installation - i say ssd so you can install in 15 minuets - also if you have usb 3.0 you can run off flash much faster for demos and ghost riding  hehehe - before you do any of that - get your data backed up on an external hard drive
[01:59] <dibblego> maxb: Can you please tell me the output of lsusb with your SE-506AB? Also, I should be able to play a regular DVD from it right?
[02:00] <CazyArsMut> Kion, remove the faulty program that won't update
[02:00] <Kion> CazyArsMut: If I could only know which is it?
[02:01] <CazyArsMut> it looks like you have issues with the language dept
[02:01] <CazyArsMut> the translators_en part is a giveaway
[02:01] <[Saint]> "upgrade your hardware" is about the worst fucking software advice I have ever heard.
[02:01] <[Saint]> Thanks for that, made my day ;)
[02:01] <CazyArsMut> honestly i would just re-install Kion and salvage my important data
[02:01] <ViperX> #anime
[02:01] <[Saint]> Also a highly stupid course of action.
[02:02] <[Saint]> "reinstall the OS" should never be a "solution" to such a problem.
[02:02] <[Saint]> Never.
[02:02] <IdleOne> !language | [Saint]
[02:02] <Kion> CazyArsMut: Well.... I ve got tons of important software installed the hard way.. I mean by having to compile from source and It would take a long time to get it back to normal
[02:03] <Rokkross> Wait, if there's a language rule why doesn't the bot just have a badwords list that autokicks people?
[02:03] <Rokkross> Instead of waiting for people to mini-mod
[02:03] <Rokkross> I mean obviously the bot isn't opped, but it -could- be
[02:03] <[Saint]> Kion: out of interest - did you try google - where this has been asked and answered several times? ;)
[02:04] <[Saint]> I wasn't joking when I suggested it, or linked to a page showing you the fact.
[02:04] <IdleOne> because the bot would then be abused, and we prefer to explain the rules instead of enforcing the rules with kicks and bans.
[02:04] <Kion> [Saint]: I did, and have only read one solution that seems rather a security breach than a real solution to me
[02:04] <Rokkross> How would the bot be abused?
[02:04] <Rokkross> I don't understand.
[02:04] <CazyArsMut> crap man - oh - did you try to get a better location to gt updates from? it might be that your mirror or server location is bunk Kion
[02:04] <Kion> [Saint]: they say open you sources.lst and delete everything and copy and paste this!
[02:04] <|Anthony|> yeah, so i'm confused on this... to setup a samba server, do i need to have user accounts on both the client and server?
[02:05] <|Anthony|> this is really confusing me
[02:05] <Kion> CazyArsMut: how do I get a better location, by using a internet proxy?
[02:05] <maxb> dibblego: Unfortunately I left it at my office, so I can't right now. I've played both DVDs and Blurays on it subject to navigating the pains of the copyprotection
[02:05] <[Saint]> Kion: repairing the sources list is exactly what you need to do.
[02:05] <Kion> CazyArsMut: in the system settings
[02:05] <dibblego> maxb: ok no worries, what are the hurdles with copy protection?
[02:05] <Kion> [Saint]: yes, I agree, how do I do that?
[02:05] <CazyArsMut> Kion - that's why when I reinstall and do my processes all over again from scratch I am going to make a history of action - So i can always just go back to my cloud doc and follow instructions to get it back to how it was before a breakdown.
[02:06] <[Saint]> chroot - liveCD - whatever, you just need to get a known good copy on there.
[02:06] <|Anthony|> trying to do backups from a debian server to an ubuntu desktop. and i'm not sure how the user authentication goes
[02:06] <[Saint]> Ask Google.
[02:06] <CazyArsMut> ok - Kion open the updater
[02:06] <[Saint]> CazyArsMut: he's already said the updater GUI crashes has he not?
[02:07] <CazyArsMut> Kion - click on settings after it finishes starting up
[02:07] <[Saint]> see above.
[02:07] <maxb> dibblego: For DVDs, the usual "You need to install libdvdcss", for Bluray, the need to obtain key material from internet sites of dubious legitimacy, and even then there's no solution at all for newer discs
[02:07] <dibblego> maxb: oh ok, so that's the next step after I can get it up and running, cheers
[02:07] <[Saint]> The first thing the updater does when it launches is check the sources list - which is invalid - which is (apparently) the problem.
[02:07] <OerHeks> maxb there is > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[02:08] <randimiller> Anyone have a suggestion for screencast software? A teacher asked me to do a screencast on using Ubuntu, but I haven't done one on anything but windows before
[02:08] <Kion> Thanks guys... I have to go unfortunately, they are closing the office and have to go home
[02:08] <Kion> I will connect in 10 minutes
[02:08] <CazyArsMut> i thought it crashes after you try to complete a download - you don't need to do that right now, you are just changing 'software sources' 'download from'
[02:08] <Kion> thanks all
[02:08] <Guest83386> Hello, I appear to be having problems with my wireless printer
[02:08] <CazyArsMut> does it automatically crash Kion?
[02:08] <CazyArsMut> lol he quit
[02:09] <maxb> OerHeks: That page is fine as far as it goes, but doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys
[02:09] <CazyArsMut> cool - the dude lives next to his office  lol how nutzy is that?
[02:09] <CazyArsMut> i wana live 10 minuets from work
[02:09] <nagchampa> why does ubuntu seem to want to force 96 dpi in X?
[02:09] <OerHeks> maxb, or this tread > http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc
[02:09] <nagchampa> shouldnt' it read the actual dpi from the monitor if available?
[02:10] <Guest83386> I am new to Ubuntu and linux as I have come from Windows. I have been trying to set up my wireless printer but I can't seem to figure it out
[02:10] <xangua> Guest83386: you mean wifi¿
[02:11] <Rokkross> Guest83386: Have you tried googling yet? There's probably a comprehensive guide somewhere.
[02:11] <dr_willis> what make printer?
[02:11] <Rokkross> We'd love to help, but it's preferable that you at least try a little research first.
[02:11] <dr_willis> or its as simple as using the cups web interface and addprinter - scan
[02:11] <Guest83386> I have tried Googling. I know how to get to the interface to set it up, I just can't connect as I am not quite sure which method and information to use
[02:11] <dr_willis> cups web interface -->    http://localhost:631
[02:12] <dr_willis> many networked printers show up and can use different methods.
[02:12] <maxb> OerHeks: Still doesn't address BD+ or AACS discs which have revoked the leaked keys. I don't think there's any solution for that
[02:12] <dr_willis> i found mine works well with ipp: on linuc
[02:12] <xangua> Guest83386: did you already sync the printer with your wifi¿
[02:13] <Guest83386> Sorry, but I have just began using this OS in order to make my weaker netbook usable again. I am new to linux, so I have opened up Chrome and went to http://localhost:631
[02:13] <Guest83386> I try to access administration but it asks for login info?
[02:13] <dr_willis> it wants the sudo password
[02:13] <maxb> dibblego: I had an idea - your SE-506AB isn't in its weird media emulation mode, is it?
[02:14] <Guest83386> Xangua, yes. I have it working on Windows laptops
[02:14] <dibblego> maxb: its what what?
[02:14] <dibblego> maxb: the 1 page instruction said something about "AV mode" — I have no idea what that is
[02:14] <Guest83386> dr_willis, thank you
[02:14] <Guest31469> Hi i'm new to this chat and i have a question about Mozilla Thunderbird. its stuck in a full screen mode where i am not able to access the "x", the minimize button, or the maximize/minimize buttons. or the whole top menu bar for that matter. can anyone help me out??
[02:15] <Quex01> niggerniggernigger
[02:15] <subcool> Hey, someone mentioned that i can backup my configs, before i reformat. - How do i do that. Im kinda confused on what it meant anyways. I have my home director on a seperate partition.
[02:15] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  i rarely use the cups tools. i tend to always use the cups web interface.. just seems to work better for me
[02:15] <maxb> dibblego: The SE-506AB has a bizarre mode where it attempts to emulate exposing a CD containing audio/video files as a USB flash disk or something like that
[02:15] <xangua> Guest83386: and what brand is¿ if it's supported you just open the dash, search for Printer settings, select the add option and it should appear
[02:15] <dr_willis> subcool:  you customized any files in /etc/ ?
[02:15] <dibblego> maxb: oh that might be it, I will check it out, thanks!
[02:15] <YokoBR> guys, please,  i'm getting this error while compiling kernel modules on 3.7 kernels. error: ‘VM_RESERVED’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[02:16] <Guest83386> I still seem to be having problems logging in
[02:16] <subcool> dr_willis, got me. lol
[02:16] <maxb> dibblego: IIRC the mode toggle involves holding the eject button whilst the drive tray is open, and paying attention to the LED to know which mode it is in
[02:16] <subcool> personally- no. if someone helped me- maybe..
[02:16] <subcool> dr_willis,
[02:16] <dibblego> maxb: yeah the instruction says something like that
[02:16] <dr_willis> subcool:  guess you dont wory about it then. just be sure to NOT format your home partition during an install
[02:16] <Guest83386> Xangua: It's a Canon Pixma MX860
[02:17] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  canon is famous..   for bad linux support..
[02:17] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  you may want to check askubuntu.com cups.org and the linuxprinting.org sites to see if its supported at all.
[02:17] <YokoBR> dr_willis, not more than AMD
[02:18] <dr_willis> yes.. more then amd...
[02:18] <dr_willis> only worse company then canon.. i can think of is 'SiS'
[02:18] <Taev> whats the name of the login manager for unity, like kdm is for kde
[02:18] <Guest83386> Ah okay, but how do I login to CUPS?
[02:18] <randimiller> any suggestions on screencasting software?
[02:18] <Taev> and how do i via the console make the unity login manager the chief one
[02:18] <YokoBR> dr_willis, i thought that SiS was dead
[02:19] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  i just use my main users name/password
[02:19] <Rokkross> randimiller: Live or just recording in general?
[02:19] <randimiller> Rokkross, recording in general
[02:19] <Rokkross> recordmydesktop is good.
[02:19] <dr_willis> YokoBR:  nope.. about once a week we get a sis user in here
[02:19] <Rokkross> Not sure if it's live
[02:19] <randimiller> Rokkross, thanks will give that a try
[02:19] <rats_> Recordmydesktop randimiller works
[02:19] <Rokkross> Be sure to install recordmydesktop-gtk if you want a graphical frontend for it.
[02:19] <subcool> great- thanks dr_jesus
[02:19] <Rokkross> at least I think that's what it's called
[02:19] <subcool> dr_willis,
[02:20] <Guest83386> Ah I must have been typing something wrong. Sorry about that. However, I am still confused on how to add my printer
[02:20] <dr_willis> theres a manage -> add printer item on that page Guest89833
[02:20] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  the page should have links to the cups docs also.
[02:20] <YokoBR> dr_willis, poor devils..
[02:20] <dibblego> maxb: http://i.imgur.com/GrzCqvm.jpg
[02:21] <Guest83386> Okay I am looking into it, thank you
[02:21] <rats_> randimiller:  imagination is good for slide show type vids
[02:21] <xangua> Guest83386: assuming it is supported, you just select the add option> netword printer in Printer settings
[02:21] <YokoBR> anyone with HD 4XXX series AND xorg 1.13 or newest kernels AND fglrx-legacy (makson96)
[02:21] <Taev> nm how do i switch back to the default login display, and not kdm
[02:23] <maxb> dibblego: Yes, that. I guess verify you can turn that on and off, and then make sure it's off
[02:23] <Guest83386> It does not appear supported on the CUPS website, however I believe the driver is available. Also, there is PIXMA MX350, I have PIXMAD MX860
[02:24] <dibblego> maxb: oh it was already off, so I just turned it on
[02:24] <YokoBR> omg, i can't believe that i'll have to downgrade to 12.04 just to install amd driver
[02:25] <dibblego> maxb: I still do not see it with lsusb :(
[02:25] <ViperX> #help
[02:26] <bsnl> I'm new to linux and trying to install http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html but don't know how to follow these directions
[02:27] <knoppies> hi, what is the difference between downloading 12.04.2 and using a 12.04 iso and updating? Is there any difference?
[02:27] <jrib> knoppies: you'll use more bandwidth one way
[02:27] <alainus> hi .. i can-t resize the main ubuntu partition .. even though there-s a lot of unallocated space ... it doesn-t let me.. here-s my setup.. http://imgur.com/6AiNTLG .. any tips ??
[02:27] <knoppies> jrib, depending on whether I already have 12.04?
[02:27] <jrib> knoppies: I don't know what you mean
[02:28] <knoppies> jrib, I already have the 12.04 iso, so I wouldnt need to download it, assuming the updates are < 700MB I would be saving bandwidth by using that.
[02:28] <knoppies> alainus, free space needs to be contiguous, although that may not be your problem.
[02:28] <Taev> can some one please tell me how to restore unity, instead of kdm
[02:29] <jrib> knoppies: then that way will probably consume less bandwidth probably...
[02:29] <alainus> knoppies: apparently i had to do swapoff ..
[02:29] <knoppies> alainus, oh. Are you resizing the extended partition?
[02:29] <bsnl> Where is the hard drive located on ubuntu? It tells me to extract a file to the hard drive but I don't know where it is specifically on here
[02:29] <alainus> knoppies: yeps
[02:29] <jrib> bsnl: *what* tells you?
[02:30] <knoppies> bsnl, when it says that it means you need to extract it to anywhere inside /home/USERNAME/
[02:31] <bsnl> Ah ok
[02:32] <bsnl> *what*
[02:32] <bsnl> Oh I thought that was a command that would tell me, but knoppies showed me
[02:32] <knoppies> bsnl, glad I could help.
[02:33] <bcbc2> alainus: swap is mounted automatically by the live CD (which locks the extended partition). You can just unmount it: sudo swapoff -a
[02:33] <bsnl> Any place I can go to get a good solid learning education on linux/computers so I can appreciate/do more with linux?
[02:33] <selena2013> so Ubuntu is proposing a Rolling Release
[02:33] <xangua> !ot | selena2013
[02:34] <knoppies> bsnl, your own home. The Internet can provide a lot of help (and a lot of confusion). This channel is a good place to start if you get stuck. One tip from me, DONT be afraid of the command line. Its not as scary as it looks.
[02:34] <alainus> bcbc2, knoppies ... now it-s leaving unallocated space after which i can-t get rid of. ..see  http://imgur.com/vZEZAr0
[02:35] <knoppies> alainus, dont worry about that, most partitioning tools do. Its only 1MB.
[02:35] <bsnl> Ok! Thanks! One last thing, Apparently I don't have the permission to access extracting to the hard drive
[02:35] <randimiller> Rokkross, rats_, thanks this looks like it will do fine... it's no camtasia but will do temporarily
[02:36] <bsnl> Er I mean, i don't have permission to access that particular location of home
[02:36] <bsnl> when attempting to copy an extracted file there
[02:36] <knoppies> bsnl, /home/ belongs to root, you need to put it into /home/$USER
[02:36] <bsnl> Oh! Ok, thanks!
[02:37] <knoppies> alainus, Im not sure why they do that, I assume it has something to do with aligning to cylinders or something. You can try select align to MB.
[02:39] <bsnl> I can't figure out how to tell it to move to home/user
[02:39] <bsnl> lol
[02:39] <dr_willis> cp foo /home/username/
[02:40] <knoppies> bsnl, what dr_willis said. Type that into a terminal, or use nautilus to ctrl-c ctrl-v it.
[02:41] <bsnl> "Cannot stat foo, no such file or directory"
[02:42] <dr_willis> think about that....    its an example....
[02:42] <Guest83386> I am new to linux and trying to install drivers... I downloaded the .tar.gz but I am unsure of what to do now
[02:42] <dr_willis> Guest83386:  drivers for what
[02:42] <Guest83386> My Canon Pixma MX860 Printer
[02:42] <jobs> tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[02:43] <dr_willis> its possible they are allready in the repositories
[02:43] <dr_willis> search for 'canon' in the software center and look
[02:43] <Guest83386> I am just unsure of what to actually do with the archive file
[02:43] <billkd> Guest83396: Are you sure that Ubuntu doesn't include the drivers for your device in the repos?
[02:43] <knoppies> bsnl, what is the name of the file. You need to do cp filename /home/username
[02:44] <knoppies> bsnl, or if you want to move it (rather than copy it) then mv filename /home/username
[02:44] <Guest83386> I do not believe it does
[02:45] <jobs> = =
[02:46] <Guest83386> How do I install the drivers after I've the archive downloaded?
[02:48] <bsnl> Brain Workshop has a few dependencies on Linux.
[02:48] <bsnl>     First, get OpenGL working. Brain Workshop uses OpenGL as a backend for drawing its graphics. Hardware acceleration is strongly recommended, but if it's not available or easy to set up, the Mesa software renderer also works.
[02:48] <bsnl>     Python: Most distributions come with Python preinstalled. Open a terminal and type python to ensure you have Python 2.5 or higher. Python 2.4 will also suffice as long as python-ctypes is installed.
[02:48] <bsnl>     If you would like music support (recommended), download and install AVBin by following these steps:
[02:48] <bsnl>         Download one of the following:
[02:48] <FloodBot1> bsnl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <bsnl>             AVbin 7 installer for 32-bit Linux
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Guest83386: Did you already try simply plugging the printer in and trying to print to it? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:49] <Guest83386> I am on Xubuntu 12.10, and I am trying to set up via network access. I have it connected to multiple Windows computers
[02:49] <bsnl> But yes basically i'm trying to install that
[02:49] <dr_willis> !find avbin
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Guest83386: OK, have you tried adding the printer via system-config-printer yet? Does it show up in the list of network printers there?
[02:51] <Guest83386> Where do I access system-config-printer?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Guest83386: It's somewhere in the menus, probably "System>Preferences>Printers" or similar, or just run "system-config-printer" from a terminal.
[02:52] <Guest83386> I believe that is what I am trying to use
[02:52] <dr_willis> or use the dash search.
[02:52] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Xubuntu.
[02:53] <dr_willis> he was trying the cups web interface earlier
[02:53] <pacaol> ok
[02:53] <Jordan_U> Guest83386: Does it show up in the list of network printers there?
[02:54] <eN_Joy> my ubuntu box is almost solely as a web server, that being said, port 80 is open, however my ufw.log shows from time to time, access to port 80 is blocked, how so?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> eN_Joy: Please post the exact line (or use pastebin if it's more than one line).
[02:56] <eN_Joy> Jordan_U: e.g., http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589402/
[02:57] <bsnl> Terminal commands don't seem to work
[02:58] <bsnl> http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html is what i'm trying to install
[02:58] <bsnl> Didn't expect i'd run into this issue, google is usually always there for me but i'm getting nothing here and i'm too new to ubuntu and its commands to understand why this isn't working
[02:58] <knoppies> bsnl, pastebin the terminal output when it fails.
[02:59] <bsnl> Alright
[03:00] <bsnl> mv brainworkshop /home/username
[03:00] <bsnl> mv: cannot create directory `/home/username': Permission denied
[03:01] <bsnl>  my brainworkshop /home/usr
[03:01] <bsnl> my: command not found
[03:01] <bsnl> Whoops lol
[03:02] <knoppies> bsnl, mv brainworkshop /home/$USER
[03:02] <knoppies> bsnl, what is the output to echo $USER
[03:02] <dr_willis> you are using your actual username?
[03:02] <MakiAto> !chat
[03:02] <dr_willis> may be time to read a bash beginner guide or two
[03:03] <bsnl> my brainworkshop /home/$USER
[03:03] <bsnl> my: command not found
[03:03] <bsnl> No, I went through the other names first before usr, usr was just last ditch
[03:03] <MakiAto> yes bash the noobs
[03:03] <bsnl> although beginner guides would be helpful
[03:03] <knoppies> bsnl, M V not M Y
[03:03] <knoppies> mv is short for move.
[03:04] <Guest83386> Okay the printer shows up in the list
[03:04] <Guest83386> But the test page does not work
[03:04] <bsnl> lol I have never had that problem before
[03:04] <Guest83386> The MAC address is correct
[03:04] <bsnl> Sorry, I am extremely groggy and disfunctional right now, this stuff isn't normally hard for me :/ bad time of day to try this I guess
[03:05] <[Saint]> assuming you're logged in as the user in question, 'mv <foo> ~/' may avoid some cunfusion.
[03:05] <MakiAto> you still print stuff?
[03:05] <knoppies> [Saint], I dont want to confuse him any more.
[03:05] <Guest83386> No
[03:06] <MakiAto> lets casta a fatah on De Icaza
[03:06] <dr_willis> there may be some error info in the /var/logs/cups* files Guest83386  as to why its failing.
[03:06] <MakiAto> lets cast a fatah on De Icaza
[03:06] <MakiAto> i mean Miguel
[03:07] <MakiAto> all this time we was infiltrating the comunity
[03:07]  * [Saint] wonders why Chrome has the user selection on the left, and _ [] X on the right in 13.04 ow
[03:07] <[Saint]> *now
[03:07] <dr_willis> MakiAto:  keep it ontopic in here please
[03:08] <bsnl> mv brainworkshop /home/$USER
[03:08] <bsnl> mv: `brainworkshop' and `/home/bsnl/brainworkshop' are the same file
[03:08] <Curs0r> Hi, I seem to be having trouble with ntp setting the time incorrectly by a day after an update to 11.04. Is that common? Anything I can do about it, or just get rid of ntp?
[03:08] <Corey> Curs0r: Uh... when you say "incorrectly," what do you mean exactly?
[03:08] <Corey> Ten seconds off, wrong timezone, etc?
[03:08] <dr_willis> bsnl:  so what are you moving where?
[03:08] <Curs0r> Corey, Tue Mar  5 20:06:49 MST 2013 is what date returns
[03:08] <bsnl> I just need to move the file brainworkshop to the hard drive in order for it to run
[03:09] <Curs0r> It's off by a whole day every time ntp syncs
[03:09] <dr_willis> bsnl:  looks like its allready in your user home directory
[03:09] <[Saint]> bsnl: it already is.
[03:09] <Corey> Curs0r: Uh... ntp can't do that, by itself.
[03:09] <MakiAto> i need to make a ntp server
[03:09] <MakiAto> ...
[03:09] <Corey> Curs0r: Not to mention thatthat's... right.  Tue Mar  5 19:09:33 PST 2013 here.
[03:09] <[Saint]> MakiAto: No, you don't, hundreds of people already did this for you.
[03:10] <dr_willis> !ntp
[03:10] <bsnl> So I was right when I moved it there before coming here lol fml
[03:10] <Corey> Curs0r: So is the problem "You don't know what day it is?" :-)
[03:10] <MakiAto> and set it up for just one date/hour
[03:10] <stiltzkin> Anybody here want to take a shot at a question regarding fglrx on Ubuntu? Particularly if you have an ATI GPU
[03:10] <skate> is ubuntu tweek a recomended theme app?
[03:10] <bsnl> Now I just need to get it to run somehow
[03:10] <bsnl> Getting errors when I try the recommended way
[03:11] <dr_willis> skate:  theres several ubuntu tweaker tools out. Ubuntu-tweak seems to work ok.  been using unsettings lately
[03:11] <Curs0r> What the hell. then my windows box is off by a day and asterisk is screaming about dates in the past for some other reason. this day gets better and better
[03:12] <Corey> Curs0r: Yeah.  ntp is spot on, your internal clock is broken. :-)
[03:12] <Curs0r> Corey, and yes apparently neither I nor windows knew what day it was
[03:12] <Corey> Curs0r: Or every clock in the room is broken and I'm living in a madhouse, let's not discount that.
[03:12] <Bannlepton> Greetingd folks.. Night..
[03:12] <skate> thank you ill check that out
[03:12] <Curs0r> Corey, that's actually unfortunate news. this means I have no clue what is wrong with asterisk now lol
[03:13] <Guest83386> How do I uninstall the drivers?
[03:13] <Bannlepton> I have a hard to resolve issue in my Kubuntu.. No ATI driver can be installed.. I am losting my patience... heh.. Does any-good-fryend help me??
[03:13] <chicognu> folks, i have a machine with Ubuntu GNU/Linux  (virtual one, but let's forgot about this detail for now) ... Wlan0 is my conection to the internet, it is a physical device conected "only" to de virtual machine... And I have a a ETH0 conection, avirtual  ethernet adapter ... From the host i can ping the eth0 ... How do I share my conection between the guest os to host ?
[03:14] <poopie> hi
[03:14] <bsnl> Ok I see the problem now. My reading comprehension went kaput when I got really tired and I skipped over a few important lines, go figure
[03:14] <chicognu> hi poopie
[03:16] <dr_willis> !ics
[03:17] <IRCLemur> Hello - I'm running from Bodhi Linux & recently attempted to dual-boot Macpup - I decided I wanted to keep my bodhi-grub... How do I go about adding the menu entry to grub?
[03:17] <bsnl> Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop.
[03:17] <bsnl> This is the last part
[03:18] <Bannlepton> IRCLemur: I want to know the same thing about the Kubuntu grub and do not the backtrack one..
[03:18] <dr_willis> IRCLemur:  add the right stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom   is one way
[03:19] <bsnl> But I don't know what directories are so I can't figure out what the brainworkshop directory is :[
[03:19] <MakiAto> anyone using backtrack?
[03:19] <IRCLemur> dr_willis, Thank you - I couldn't remember where the new version of grub had it's "menu.lst" type-file for custom editing
[03:19] <dr_willis> ubunts's  update-grub command detects and auto adds a lot of distros automatically
[03:20] <IRCLemur> update-grub nor grub-mkconfig found the frugal install of macpup on sda3
[03:20] <bsnl> lol I can't believe for 2 hours i've just been trying to move file- Run program
[03:20] <MakiAto> it adds iso linux images?
[03:20] <dr_willis> bsnl: its in your users home....   /home/yourusername/
[03:20] <dr_willis> MakiAto: you can add those by hand
[03:20] <MakiAto> no i cant
[03:20] <IRCLemur> dr_willis, I know to update-grub after I edit 40_custom... thank you.
[03:21] <MakiAto> i sure i could make the system unbootable thou
[03:21] <austin20hot> hey
[03:21] <dr_willis> MakiAto: clarify your question.
[03:21] <MakiAto> im a bad typist
[03:22] <Laogeodritt> Anyone have any clue why an Ubuntu 12.04 server would fail boot after installing security updates? mountall fails according to kernel messages and I get thrown into a maintenance console—thing is, there are only two partitions (root and swap) and executing mountall in the shell caused it to boot properly. (I don't have access to it right now so I can only go from memory—it's been bugging
[03:22] <Laogeodritt> me at work today—but I thought I'd ask and see if there are any 'common issues' of this description)
[03:22] <bktt> Does anybody knows how to hide my activity from the owner of a wifi conection?
[03:23] <MakiAto> you need to spoof
[03:23] <MakiAto> another connection
[03:24] <bktt> thak you very much i will search for this topic!
[03:24] <MakiAto> ask dr_willis for the hands on approach
[03:24] <bsnl> I still can't find it lol
[03:25] <dr_willis> bsnl:  cd /home/yourusername/whatever
[03:25] <knoppies> bktt, I wouldnt look too much into that, if you want to hide your activity then use a tunnel of some sort. Either an SSH (port foward) tunnel or a VPN.
[03:25] <bsnl> What i'm trying to do is this "Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop."
[03:25] <heraclitis> anyone use teamviewer here?
[03:25] <dr_willis> bsnl:  seriously.. reading a bash tutorial is worth it.
[03:25] <MakiAto> ME
[03:26] <MakiAto> i use TMviewer
[03:26] <dr_willis> cd brainworkshop
[03:26] <dr_willis> python whatever
[03:26] <bsnl> whats bash
[03:26] <dr_willis> !bash
[03:26] <bsnl> Oh its ubuntus command prompt
[03:26] <MakiAto> !hash
[03:26] <MakiAto> !ash
[03:26] <knoppies> bsnl, yes. Also known as a terminal or cli.
[03:26] <heraclitis> MakiAto: do you know why teamviewer runs as a process on windows at all times? even if I don't have it started?
[03:26] <dr_willis> its not ubuntu specific
[03:27] <Guest17284> Alright, so I managed to get the printer working. Now, how can I change it to grayscale only? When I go Job options, print-color-mode, monochrome, it does not stick
[03:27] <knoppies> bsnl, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal it will help you with most of your problems.
[03:27] <bsnl> The terminology and rules that the programs follow are completely elusive to me. if I had a break down of the laws of how ubuntu functions this would be much easier
[03:27] <MakiAto> you have to ask the devs
[03:27] <bsnl> Ok, i'll learn that tonight
[03:28] <MakiAto> heraclitis: try ##windows
[03:28] <dr_willis> bsnl: laws?  its all normal linux/unix at the core
[03:29] <heraclitis> MakiAto: already have. I run it on both linux and windows.
[03:29] <bsnl> What I mean is, I don't know the logic behind how linux/unix functions atm
[03:29] <dr_willis> bsnl: you dont know the basics.. start with a bash tutorial or 3  then work up
[03:29] <bsnl> Linux is just a name to me right now and nothing else
[03:29] <MakiAto> bsnl make yopur owne distro using LFS then you can be aloud to ask something like that in here
[03:29] <dr_willis> bsnl:  remember  case IS imporntant in linux
[03:29] <bsnl> i'm not sure what you're saying MakiAto
[03:30] <bsnl> What did I ask that was bad
[03:30] <Maroc> Checking ...
[03:30] <dr_willis> bsnl:  hes just ranting.. ;-)
[03:30] <MakiAto> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[03:30] <bean> in reality, though, don't ask "what's bash" that's googleable
[03:31] <MakiAto> !google bash
[03:31] <bsnl> Ok, i'll get the google fu leveled up
[03:31] <knoppies> bsnl, you can ignore MakiAto. He just has no patience.
[03:32] <bsnl> I'm fine I just don't know what he was upset about, was it the easy google answer questions i'm asking that he doesn't like or something else?
[03:32] <jonesmj> Is there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing?
[03:32] <Nautilus> is there a way for me to look at an HD's SMARTT data booted to a 12.04 live cd?
[03:33] <bsnl> Just couldn't see what he was mad at lol
[03:33]  * MakiAto thinks bsnl is Miguel in disguise
[03:33] <connor> Hey so I installed Ubuntu and it is about perfect. The problem I have with it is the sound setup is very confusing. Is there anyway or any other programs to simplify it?
[03:34] <connor> The alsa mixer is what I'm referring to really.
[03:34] <MakiAto> connor:  what do you mean exaclly?
[03:34] <knoppies> Nautilus, yes, try installing gnome-disk-utility. Then to call it from the camand line its called palimpsest
[03:35] <bsnl> Oh one real quck question and I think i'm done
[03:35] <knoppies> Nautilus, I cant believe I mistyped command.
[03:35] <knoppies> bsnl, dont ask to ask a question, just hit us with your question.
[03:35] <gnuskool> knoppies: shock, horrror!
[03:35] <bsnl> How much should I learn before i'm capable of installing gentoo? I've heard its a challenge that helps you learn linux better and i'd like to work up to that
[03:35] <Nautilus> knoppies: I can do that without it touching the HD?
[03:35] <knoppies> Nautilus, without it mounting the HD. Yes.
[03:36] <nuli> hello
[03:36] <knoppies> Nautilus, it will read from the HDD Smart data when you open palimpsest.
[03:36] <Nautilus> apt get gnome-disk-utility ?
[03:36] <dr_willis> bsnl:  if you have to ask what bash is.. you are a long way from using gentoo.
[03:36] <knoppies> Nautilus, dont forget the install, but yes.
[03:36] <MakiAto> Nautilus you should enable the only menu option that enables RAID
[03:36] <nuli> ee
[03:36] <bsnl> Thats ok, i'd just like to know what I have ahead of me before I can install gentoo
[03:36] <dr_willis> bsnl:  read its install docs if you want. anf the lfs docs.. to learn some new terms
[03:36] <nuli> how to remove file on ubuntu
[03:37] <gnuskool> bsnl, install it, learn it as you go
[03:37] <nuli> how to remove file on ubuntu ??
[03:37] <dr_willis> bsnl:  why do you even think you need gentoo
[03:37] <knoppies> bsnl, I would stay away from gentoo for a while. I know someone who started with gentoo and so he uses nothing else, but without a good mentor it will be like swimming in quicksand.
[03:37] <dr_willis> nuli:    rm filename
[03:37] <holstein> nuli: right click.. delete.. highlight and hit delete... rm
[03:37] <gnuskool> bsnl, waiting till that perfect day you know enough is the slow way
[03:37] <dr_willis> !bash > nuli
[03:37] <knoppies> nuli, rm filename #(or do you mean uninstall a program)
[03:37] <nuli> ok thank,,, im begginer
[03:38]  * dr_willis would hope rightclick-delete would be discoverable...
[03:38] <nuli> when I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts  127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com
[03:38] <bsnl> I tried installing it once before, I understood around 1/4 of the installation process but after 25% in I got a little lost
[03:38] <nuli> and when i access thah domain
[03:39] <knoppies> Nautilus, did that solve your issue? If you reboot you will need to re-download the gnome-disk-utility .deb package, you can copy it to your USB (or some other location) from /var/cache/apt/archives or something.
[03:39] <nuli> the content say error 4040
[03:39] <rperez_cr> Do you recommend any bandwidth monitor tool, which sends emails alerts. I have already used ntop, bandwidth (comes with pfsense), mrtg. But any of them send alerts? (sorry with my english, if there is a mistake.)
[03:39] <nuli> how to change that message ???
[03:39] <dr_willis> nuli:  run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it
[03:39] <gnuskool> bsnl, always best to have a separate laptop or pc connected to the internet to lookup error messages, status messages or to ask in chat
[03:40] <nuli> when I block some domain on ubuntu /etc/hosts  127.0.0.0 www.youtube.com and when i access that domain the content say error 404 ... and how to change that message????
[03:40] <dr_willis> nuli:  run your own web server. and set the ip to point to it   ie: 127.0.0.1
[03:40] <MakiAto> my mobo has jack detection will it work in ubuntu because it doesnt work in windows 7
[03:41] <knoppies> rperez_cr, I don't know of anything but that is something I am interested in myself.
[03:41] <Nautilus> knoppies: yep it sure did ... 1289 reallocated sectors
[03:41] <knoppies> MakiAto, what is stopping you from just trying it out with a LiveCD?
[03:41] <knoppies> Nautilus, gulp.
[03:41] <Nautilus> knoppies: it was already there, i didnt have to install it
[03:41] <Nautilus> knoppies: yup
[03:42] <stiltzkin> ATI GPU owners, anyone? Anyone with a working OpenCL setup on Ubuntu?
[03:42] <MakiAto> because if i do it and it doesent work i was just waisting my time!?
[03:42] <dr_willis> MakiAto:   we cant tell you yes or no.. you need to try it
[03:43] <bsnl> I'm going to post the directions and then the command I typed and the terminals response
[03:43] <knoppies> MakiAto, and asking here isnt? We dont know what motherboard you have, or what specific ubuntu you are going to use, and even if we did, what makes you think that we have tested that combination ourselves.
[03:43] <MakiAto> so they have this stuff working at all in some hardwear?
[03:43] <bsnl> Open a terminal, enter the brainworkshop directory and type python brainworkshop.pyw to launch Brain Workshop
[03:43] <knoppies> MakiAto, yes. they do.
[03:43] <knoppies> MakiAto, it works on my laptop.
[03:43] <dr_willis> MakiAto:  thats a yes
[03:44] <bsnl> /home/bsnl python brainworkshop.pyw
[03:44] <bsnl> bash: /home/bsnl: Is a directory
[03:44] <knoppies> bsnl, dont type in /home/bsnl, just type in python brainworkshop.pyw
[03:44] <dr_willis> bsmith093:  cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop
[03:44] <dr_willis> oops
[03:44] <dr_willis> bsnl:  cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop
[03:45] <dr_willis> that IS  'entering the brainworksohop' directory
[03:45] <bsnl> For educational purposes, why didn't my command work?
[03:45] <dr_willis> because you are not giving a correct command
[03:45] <bsnl> dohoho
[03:45] <dr_willis> cd to the dir
[03:46] <dr_willis> run the command
[03:46] <jonesmj> Is there a setting to keep my cursor from disappearing?
[03:47] <knoppies> jonesmj, look for a setting in mouse or keyboard. I'll see if I can find one.
[03:48] <bsnl> bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~$ cd /home/bsnl/brainworkshop
[03:48] <bsnl> bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/brainworkshop$
[03:48] <dr_willis> bsnl:  notice your prompt has changed?
[03:48] <bsnl> I wish I had a good computer.jpg.vir.exe.wallpaperbonus
[03:48] <jonesmj> knoppies, I couldn't find one at all
[03:48] <bsnl> Yes
[03:48] <knoppies> jonesmj, I dont seem to have one on xubuntu, but I think one does exist. Something like hide cursor while typing, could also look for disable touchpad while typing.
[03:49] <Nautilus> knoppies++
[03:49] <Nautilus> seeya
[03:50] <somsip> jonesmj: maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/157134/how-to-hide-the-mouse-cursor
[03:50] <bsnl> I do indeed notice that my prompt has changed
[03:50] <bsnl> Into a dinosaur
[03:51] <bsnl> It's eating me, I don't think i'll be able to make it through guys, oh it's teeth are tearing apart my innards, these are my last few days. Thank you for your help, if I survive i'll read the command line terminal, oh god i'm breaking u
[03:51] <dr_willis> bsnl:  you now run the command
[03:52] <dr_willis> its not rocket surgery
[03:52] <dr_willis> this is like stuff covered in the first 10 min of a bash tutorial
[03:52] <selena2013> sometimes it is lol
[03:53] <gnuskool> oh, the joys of bash
[03:53] <MakiAto> who need a mouse anyways
[03:53] <dr_willis>  a 10 min reading = 2 hrs of irc tutoring
[03:53] <selena2013> i rarely use the terminal
[03:53] <selena2013> all graphical gui
[03:54] <gnuskool> selena2013: really, try a week with no gui
[03:54] <selena2013> hell no
[03:54] <selena2013> lol
[03:54] <dr_willis> its easier to give bash commands on irc support
[03:54] <MakiAto> the black hole of bash
[03:55] <dr_willis> the wasted time of searching a gui for a 2 word bash command....
[03:55] <MakiAto> thats the beuty of linux it can be modern and arcane at the same time
[03:55] <selena2013> thats right
[03:55] <dr_willis> windows has the exact same issues in many cases
[03:55] <MakiAto> its kinda of like the beuty and the beast
[03:56] <selena2013> lol
[03:58] <MakiAto> !questions
[03:58] <knoppies> selena2013, do yourself a favour. Dont be afraid of the terminal. Use it a little here, and a little there. In a few months you will do things that are quicker to do on a terminal in the terminal, and the things that are quicker todo in a GUI in the GUI. Before you know it you will be writing scripts which do things like only move certain files or bulk rename files. The terminal is still VERY powerful, even in todays G
[03:58] <knoppies> UI oriented computing.
[03:59] <patr|ck> <3
[03:59] <panorain> Sup
[03:59] <selena2013> knoppies i know is powerful  but i gui is easier
[03:59] <MakiAto> selena2013: try sudo ./ it shows pretty cat pics
[03:59] <panorain> I am using slitaz 4 on a different pc
[03:59] <selena2013> lol
[04:00] <knoppies> selena2013, not true. There are many things that are easier to do in a terminal than in a GUI. and its not that much harder to learn, just harder to remember. (thats what man pages are for)
[04:00] <MakiAto> its a linux easter egg
[04:00] <dr_willis> at times the gui is harder
[04:00] <panorain> dr
[04:00] <usr13> knoppies: (I use a GUI terminal :)
[04:00] <knoppies> usr13, Match made in heaven.
[04:01] <usr13> Who remembers?  (I use notes.)
[04:01] <selena2013> but gui is beautiful
[04:01] <knoppies> selena2013, so is green on black terminal (imo). Fine, stick to your ways.
[04:01] <dr_willis> gui can be an eyesore
[04:01] <panorain> dr_willis does the ext3 format on usb support swapping files easily as msdos?
[04:01] <usr13> so's CLI
[04:01] <dr_willis> panorain:  swapping files means?
[04:01] <MakiAto> yellow on black
[04:02] <panorain> dr_willis I seem to have problems with transferring/copying files form linux based computers with the usb:thumb drive ext3
[04:02] <knoppies> selena2013, (this isnt exactly fair, as its not a terminal but a bootsplash) Tell me this is NOT beautiful: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/KNOPPIX_booting.png/300px-KNOPPIX_booting.png
[04:03] <rats_> GUIs are for the desktop terminal is for under the hood - depends on your workflow
[04:03] <knoppies> rats_, thats not even true. I use the terminal for a lot of desktop tasks.
[04:03] <usr13> dr_willis: I think panorain has troubles with a file manager.
[04:03] <rats_> both are good
[04:03] <selena2013> looks nice
[04:03] <dr_willis> panorain: ownership and permissions ARE remembered on a removeable usb thats ext# formated
[04:03] <selena2013> with the tux
[04:03] <MakiAto> i wished my irc client look half as good
[04:04] <knoppies> MakiAto, tried weechat?
[04:04] <panorain> usr13 when I format the usb /sda etc  file system ext3 makes it hard to transfer files
[04:04] <usr13> panorain: Ahhh yes, it's file ownerships you have problems with.  Right?
[04:04] <dr_willis> panorain: linux dosent care that they are  removeable.
[04:05] <MakiAto> im going to oinstall mirc in wine
[04:05] <dr_willis> it treats them the same.. so set up the users the same way. or chown/chmod the files as needed
[04:05] <usr13> panorain: If it's not file ownership, I don't know what the problem is.  Files are files....
[04:05] <panorain> usr13 possible why to I see always etc3 has a new trash bin included in a freshly created thumb drive?
[04:05] <gnuskool> panorain: you could have kept the format of the usb as NTFS if yu wanted to, it would have worked
[04:05] <panorain> usr13 ext3 sorry
[04:05] <dr_willis> !trash
[04:06] <panorain> gnuskool meaning with using gparted?
[04:06] <usr13> panorain: That is the function of the file manager, (which gives you an un-delete option).
[04:07] <usr13> ... same as MS Windows...
[04:07] <panorain> usr13 please help me run through a setup on a 2.0 gig thumbdrive easily partitioned and able to swap file with my slitaz4 pc
[04:07] <gnuskool> panorain: yes, the usb can be of FAT32/NTFS which is windoes format and that would have been ok
[04:08] <usr13> panorain: I usually use the default fat32 so that the device can be easily shared with other OSs.
[04:08] <gnuskool> panorain, then format it to fat32
[04:08] <panorain> gnuskool I have inserted the thumbdrive what is my next step with the bash terminal?
[04:09] <usr13> panorain: They come that way, I leave it that way.
[04:09] <gnuskool> panorain, have you already changed it to ext3 format?
[04:09] <panorain> gnuskool please hold on 15 seconds
[04:09] <usr13> panorain: You want to re-format it?
[04:10] <skate> whats a good command in terminal to display cpu temp readout?
[04:10] <dr_willis> gparted works well for that panorain
[04:10] <panorain> usr13 I would like to reformat the 2.0 gig thumbdrive
[04:10] <panorain> gnuskool I opened gparted now
[04:11] <usr13> skate: I think that info comes from BIOS
[04:11] <aiFrantz> skate: need to install few things few, e.g. lm_sensors
[04:11] <panorain> gnuskool the device is picked up and labeled /dev/sdf
[04:11] <dr_willis> delete ecisting partition. make new one. format it to vfat or whatever its called
[04:11] <usr13> panorain: mkdosfs /dev/sd?#
[04:11] <skate> ok thnx
[04:12] <panorain> usr13 from terminal sudo prefix?   mkdosfs /dev/sd?#
[04:12] <usr13> panorain: sudo fdisk -l
[04:13] <usr13> panorain: (You first have do decide which device you want to format.)
[04:13] <aiFrantz> skate: this tutorial might be handy for you.. complete guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-get-sensors-information/
[04:13] <panorain> usr13 I would like only a linux based format to share between linux computers
[04:13] <usr13> panorain: (Be sure to select the correct device.)
[04:14] <panorain> usr13 my drive is /dev/sdf
[04:14] <panorain> usr13 I have opend sudo fdsik -l
[04:14] <usr13> panorain: Why would the filesystem matter?
[04:14] <panorain> usr13 It should not matter
[04:14] <skate> great! thank you aiFrantz
[04:14] <aiFrantz> panorain: usr13: why don't you use palimpsest/gnome-disk-utility to format the drive? kinda curious here O.o?
[04:14] <usr13> panorain: type mk  and hit the tab key a couple times.
[04:15] <usr13> panorain: (take  your pick)
[04:15] <usr13> panorain: mkfs.ext3  ?
[04:15] <dr_willis> vfat works well for sneaker-net transfers
[04:15] <panorain> usr13 yes
[04:16] <usr13> panorain: I agree with dr_willis. I recomment vfat
[04:16] <panorain> aiFrranz I do not know gnoe disk utility
[04:16] <dr_willis> thats his whole issue
[04:16] <usr13> panorain: But its up to you.
[04:16] <gnuskool> panorain: mkfs.vfat -In ‘enter-some-name-here-ok’ /dev/sdf
[04:16] <panorain> usr13 please help you are appreciated
[04:16] <dr_willis> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1
[04:16] <panorain> gnuskool ok
[04:16] <usr13> panorain: Why would you want to limit it's use only to systems that will read ext3 ?
[04:17] <gnuskool> usr13: he wants to share with a windows os
[04:17] <aiFrantz> panorain: install = sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility ... to invoke, put this command into terminal : palimpsest ... quite handy
[04:17] <panorain> usr13 I do not necessarily want to limit it this way
[04:17] <usr13> panorain: Then use vfat
[04:18] <aiFrantz> gnome-disk-utility is a GUI tool.. much easier to someone who is no expert in this terminal thingy. but I do encourage to use terminal instead... much more fun I guess ^.^
[04:18] <panorain> aiFranz I have opened the utility now
[04:19] <usr13> panorain: mkfs.vfat = mkdosfs -f32
[04:19] <aiFrantz> the rest is much more self-explanatory...
[04:19] <panorain> thank you
[04:20] <panorain> aiFranz must I unmount before partitioning?
[04:20] <usr13> panorain: Yes
[04:20] <aiFrantz> panorain: yes you must
[04:20] <panorain> aiFranz I have unmounted the usb drive now
[04:21] <aiFrantz> ok.. proceed to whatever next step you wanna proceed
[04:21] <panorain> usr13 the label of the drive is fat32
[04:21] <usr13> panorain: Doesn't matter.
[04:21] <panorain> aiFranz what should I do now to clear the thumb drive
[04:22] <aiFrantz> formatting volume and formatting drive aren't the same thing on gnome-disk-utility. to clean the drive, select format drive
[04:22] <usr13> panorain: Just format it.  (All data will be cleared, gone)
[04:22] <panorain> aiFranz masterbootrecord?
[04:22] <gnuskool> eeekk
[04:22] <aiFrantz> i'm on mac just now.. tell me the choices... i forgot 'em all
[04:22] <panorain> usr13 scheme askes  master boot record
[04:23] <aiFrantz> *oh maii godd.. no racism here.. I love mac.. hehe*
[04:23] <usr13> panorain: You don't want to re-partition it do you?  You just want to format it.  Right?
[04:23] <panorain> usr13 yes 1 big partition 2.0 gigs
[04:23] <aiFrantz> gtg... got something to do
[04:23] <usr13> panorain: How many does it have now?
[04:24] <MakiAto> apple is racist?
[04:24] <panorain> usr13 none anymore I just formatted mbr
[04:24] <usr13> panorain: Really?
[04:24] <panorain> usr13 now only
[04:24] <MakiAto> apple is pro gay people
[04:24] <MakiAto> ence the rainbow
[04:24] <panorain> aiFranz it show unallocated space
[04:24] <MakiAto> or is it the other way around?
[04:25] <usr13> MakiAto: And what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[04:25] <panorain> heh
[04:25] <gnuskool> panorain, just format the usb drive, ensure its the usb youre formatting, that is enough
[04:25] <MakiAto> everyone in irc is a male
[04:25] <MakiAto> thats a given
[04:26] <gnuskool> panorain: no need to do anything further, all data will be removed from the drive and you can use it
[04:26] <usr13> !ot | MakiAto
[04:26] <panorain> gnuskool ok
[04:26] <MakiAto> usr13: are you old engough for itc?
[04:26] <panorain> gnuskool drive is not recognized
[04:26] <panorain> gnuskool no format to the drive?
[04:27] <milan> neat
[04:27] <MakiAto> most of people chating in irc are from some goverment organization
[04:28] <MakiAto> thats another given
[04:28] <panorain> aiFranz should I create a partition now?
[04:28] <usr13> panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format.
[04:28] <MakiAto> i bet the only women in irc must be here because its in theyr job discriptions
[04:28] <panorain> usr13 what type of partition is best between all?
[04:29] <usr13> panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1  #would have formatted it.
[04:29] <usr13> panorain: Primary
[04:30] <usr13> panorain: If you only use one, no choice, primary
[04:30] <panorain> usr13 ok thank you
[04:31] <gnuskool> panorain, how is it going?
[04:31] <MakiAto> usr13: we dont use /dev/sdf you should recall the drive UUID
[04:31] <usr13> gnuskool: He's learning how to create partitions.
[04:32] <MakiAto> probablly Miguel seted that up for us
[04:32] <usr13> MakiAto: What?
[04:32] <panorain> gnuskool the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf yields Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override)
[04:32] <panorain> paul@paul-desktop:~$
[04:34] <usr13> panorain: If you wiped out the partition table, you'll need to re-partition it so that you'll have a partition to format.
[04:34] <panorain> usr13 please help
[04:34] <MakiAto> De Icaza married a brazilian
[04:34] <usr13> panorain: Have you created a partition?
[04:35] <usr13> panorain: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf
[04:35] <panorain> usr13 yes I created a partition using the command > sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf
[04:35] <usr13> panorain: Tell us what it says?
[04:35] <usr13> panorain: You format partitions, (not drives).
[04:36] <MakiAto> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[17][18] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop computing.
[04:36] <panorain> usr13 > Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdf' (use -I to override)
[04:36] <panorain> paul@paul-desktop:~$
[04:36] <IdleOne> !ot | MakiAto
[04:36] <usr13> panorain: mkfs  formats, (it does not create partitions).  Use fdisk to create partition.  (or cfdisk)
[04:36] <usr13> panorain: As dr_willis said a while back, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1  #would have formatted it.
[04:36] <MakiAto> what a coerent little men
[04:37] <MakiAto> he allready killed linux
[04:37] <gnuskool> panorain, open gparted
[04:37] <panorain> usr13  , mkfs.vfat /dev/sdf1    or   sdf?
[04:37] <usr13> panorain: see my pm
[04:37] <panorain> gnuskool ok
[04:38] <gnuskool> panorain, select the usb, what does it say under 'filesystem'?
[04:38] <MakiAto> In March 2010, he was named as the fifth in the "Most Powerful Voices in Open Source
[04:39] <panorain> usr13 yes thanks
[04:39] <usr13> panorain: FYI:  "sdf" is a drive   "sdf1"  is a partition.
[04:40] <sproc> I've set my prompt as follows: export PS1="\h:\w\$ "; However, after doing "sudo bash" successfully, I still see $ instead of #; why?
[04:40] <gnuskool> panorain, ok/
[04:40] <dr_willis> sproc  dont use    sudo bash
[04:40] <dr_willis> !sudo
[04:42] <sproc> I don't make a habit of it; however I still would like to understand why this is so.
[04:42] <dr_willis> use   sudo -i
[04:42] <dr_willis> your bash is runni g roots bash init files
[04:43] <dr_willis> and messing with the enviroment settings
[04:45] <sproc> If I have that same line in root's .bashrc, it also shows $ rather than #.
[04:45] <sproc> (when logged in as root via sudo -i)
[04:45] <Firestorm65> Are there any packages specialized for protecting laptop batteries from extra wear?
[04:46] <gnuskool> panorain, did you survive?
[04:48] <sproc> Nevermind, I needed to escape the backslash; \$ -> \\$
[04:48] <RustyShackleford> I am on Xubuntu 12.10. It never prompted me to install proprietary video drivers
[04:48] <RustyShackleford> How can I do this manually?
[04:48] <Curs0r> I've just made another possibly grim mistake. Onerix is 12.10 isn't it?
[04:49] <holstein> !12.10
[04:49] <holstein> !11.10
[04:49] <holstein> !ati | RustyShackleford
[04:49] <Curs0r> Ok, so I still have the chance to stay at 12.04 once I get there?
[04:52] <Curs0r> I started out with 10.04 server this evening. My dahdi card stopped working after upgrading releases. I'm hoping it starts working again by the time I get it up to the 12s...
[04:53] <RustyShackleford> previously, Additional Drivers would appear
[04:54] <RustyShackleford> and thats how I installed it
[04:54] <dr_willis> in 12.10+ the addational drivers tool is in a tab on the software-sources tool
[04:55] <holstein> RustyShackleford: try the link i gave to do it manually
[04:56] <RustyShackleford> dr_willis, awesome, thanks
[04:57] <gnuskool> Curs0r: any specific errormessages?
[04:57] <dr_willis> they really should have made an alias/script for jockey-gtk to pull up that tool and focus that tab
[04:57] <Curs0r> gnuskool, no sir, dahdi commands not showing up in asterisk, lspci shows it happy as can be
[04:57] <Rallias> How would I go about changing my lxbr0 ip network?
[04:58] <gnuskool> Curs0r: so what did you upgrade, kernel?
[04:58] <Mick_James> I have a question relating to USB installation of Ubuntu via USB on a machine that has no USB boot option in the Bios
[04:59] <Curs0r> gnuskool, I did a do-release-upgrade and am now doing another that should apparently put me at 11.10
[05:00] <panorain> usr13 IS AWESOME!
[05:00] <dr_willis> installing a full install to usb? you would need to put grub where it can boot from
[05:00] <holstein> Mick_James: plop http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[05:00]  * Curs0r likey LTS so shooting for 12.04
[05:00] <gnuskool> Curs0r: I think the initial problem is that a newer kernel does not recompile dahdi drivers, so a recompile would have fixed it
[05:01] <Mick_James> Thanks Holstien, Im assuming there's something out there similar to the CD helper
[05:01] <gnuskool> Curs0r: Ive come across this before
[05:01] <Curs0r> gnuskool, I will do that when I have finished 'modernizing' thanks :)
[05:01] <Mick_James> Installing from USB dr_willis
[05:01] <Curs0r> Err, rather I will get confused probably and ask how to do that
[05:01] <gnuskool> Curs0r: solution here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610457
[05:01] <holstein> Mick_James: i dont know what "the cd helper" is, but if you want to boot usb on legacy hardware, plop will do it
[05:02] <Curs0r> gnuskool, that solution is equally valid in 12.04?
[05:03] <gnuskool> cursor,  I can only assume, as everytime I did a kernel upgrade, I had to do that
[05:03] <Curs0r> Ok. I will call that plan A :)
[05:03] <Curs0r> After I have covered my own backside and gotten the phone system working I have to tackle samba. She cranky :)
[05:05] <gnuskool> Curs0r: have fun
[05:06] <gnuskool> Curs0r: the single comand you need is /var/lib/dpkg/info/dahdi-dkms.postinst configure
[05:07] <Curs0r> gnuskool, thankfully that one should be simple. "it's allowing shared folders to be accessed but not allowing the user to access the computer's address for a list of shares" is the shakily written note in front of me
[05:07] <Mick_James> Thanks holstein, worked a treat
[05:08] <XSevenX> okay
[05:09] <XSevenX> it seems as though every time I try to do anything "new" on this OS I'm confronted by about 50 different problems, all requiring extensive amounts of reading, and extremely boring work
[05:09] <XSevenX> I've already abandoned any hope of ever doing half the things I wanted to do with this pc that I built myself until I can afford a proper OS
[05:09] <XSevenX> but all I wanted to do this time was play Dwarf Fortress
[05:10] <XSevenX> so I go to the bay12 site and proceed to download the files for linux, and then I look at the installation guide.
[05:10] <holstein> XSevenX: i find sometimes its easier for folks who have no experience with any other OS... dwarf fortress can make a native linux version
[05:10] <XSevenX> lo and behold there is this entire massive wall of text that I don't even feel like reading
[05:10] <gnuskool> Curs0r: cant say without seeing your shares or samba.conf
[05:10] <XSevenX> holstein just look at this, I mean, really.
[05:11] <panorain> you guys are awesome
[05:11] <gnuskool> Curs0r: permissions, I mean
[05:11] <XSevenX> holstein: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Installation
[05:11] <Ben64> XSevenX: is there a support question anywhere in your wall of text?
[05:11] <XSevenX> all I see when I look at this is "problem, another problem, problem, more problems"
[05:11] <penth> Anyone else have trouble with menu and screen-lock compositing? All my menus and modals are showing up behind all the other windows
[05:11] <Ben64> this channel isn't really for ranting
[05:11] <gnuskool> panorain: finally fixed? i thought you had formatted the wrong drive lol
[05:11] <XSevenX> you know I thought I learned how to install, and "run" programs on this OS
[05:12] <panorain> gnuskool thank you my issue has been solved
[05:12] <XSevenX> and then I continue to find shit like this that just baffles me, because I don't even understand what it is wanting me to do
[05:12] <XSevenX> am I supposed to reprogram my linux?
[05:12] <Ben64> XSevenX: dude, chill
[05:12] <panorain> gnuskool thank you for ll your help
[05:12] <Ben64> go somewhere else if you want to just rant
[05:12] <holstein> XSevenX: please watch the language.. this is the official support channel
[05:12] <panorain> gnuskool all
[05:12] <Ben64> if you have a question, ask one
[05:12] <Curs0r> gnuskool, if you're still around in a bit I can pastebin for you. Still got a long haul doing the release upgrade shuffle.
[05:12] <XSevenX> watch what language?
[05:12] <gnuskool> panorain: no prob, didnt do much
[05:12] <holstein> XSevenX: they can release the program for ubuntu.. even in the software center. and might eventually
[05:13] <holstein> XSevenX: where are you having issues?
[05:13] <panorain> gnuskool people like you are wonderful to have in the computer world
[05:13] <gnuskool> Curs0r: ok, if im about, no problem
[05:13] <panorain> usr13 is awesome i have to add
[05:13] <XSevenX> ..I seriously cannot put my hand into my face any harder right now
[05:14] <XSevenX> holstein my problem is: WHY DOES THIS OS HAVE TO BE SO DRAMATICALLY NON-USER FRIENDLY?
[05:14] <gnuskool> panorain: :D
[05:14] <Ben64> XSevenX: if you don't have an actual support question, could  you just not say anything?
[05:14] <Curs0r> XSevenX, try gentoo and say that again
[05:14] <holstein> XSevenX: the OS didnt create that game.. wwhere are you having issues?
[05:14] <somsip> XSevenX: simple - stop shouting, stop swearing, stop ranting. state your specific question
[05:14] <suhaib> XSevenX: That is why I don't agree with those who want to let non-geek people to use Ubuntu
[05:15] <panorain> XsevenX I could add slitaz 4 to the list
[05:15] <holstein> XSevenX: the readme is actually not that bad.. where are you having issues?
[05:15] <XSevenX> I read the readme and it makes no sense to me
[05:15] <XSevenX> all I want to do is run the program as I have done on Windows
[05:16] <XSevenX> it gives me no command to input into my terminal
[05:16] <XSevenX> I go to the help on how to install it
[05:16] <holstein> XSevenX: you can start with what *exactly* is making no sense, or ask the developers of the game..
[05:16] <XSevenX> and it says I need to get all these libraries
[05:16] <XSevenX> holstein this has nothing to do with the game ffs
[05:16] <holstein> XSevenX: it says you need to get specific libraries, that are listed.. is that where you would like to start?
[05:16] <dr_willis> sounds like the devs need to make a proper .deb
[05:16] <XSevenX> exactly, I'm gonna go to these webpages
[05:16] <gleaken> I have a question regarding ehci_hcd binding.  I was messing around with unbinding it from my adapter because I thought I had a problem with the driver for a USB HDD.  Now, even though I re-bound it, it does not rebind upon reboot.  I have to bind it manually.  On my laptop, I didn't fiddle around with it, so it binds correctly each reboot.  What am I missing?
[05:16] <holstein> XSevenX: actually, this has *everything* to do with the game.. nothing to do with the OS
[05:17] <XSevenX> and it's gonna say I need __________ in order to get _____________ in order to run ___________ in order to find ___________
[05:17] <dr_willis> i imagine all the libs are in the repos
[05:17] <XSevenX> this is the case with _everything_ on this OS
[05:17]  * dr_willis has never had to track down dll's on windows... done here..
[05:17] <Curs0r> That's how it is with all OSes. Linux just has a very wide array
[05:17] <XSevenX> no matter WHAT I want to do on this OS I need to have _____ in order find _____ in order to search for _____ in order to learn about _____ in order to download _____ in order to have file #1 of #299 in order to run program X
[05:18] <holstein> XSevenX: not with things that are made to run in ubntu.. from the repos or softare center.. but what would you like to do? talk about the dependanties?
[05:18] <holstein> XSevenX: we can constructively review the readme.. otherwise, you need to stop posting so the volunteers here can help others
[05:18] <KI4RO> Isn't Samba made to run in Ubuntu?  It is not a fun install
[05:19] <dr_willis> i have no real issues with samba
[05:19] <dr_willis> i fight more with windows to windows networking
[05:21] <gnuskool> XSevenX: when you have all the necessary files and are ready to get it done, give me a shout
[05:22] <holstein> XSevenX: i would just right click and make the "df" file executable and try running it.. i have it running here, and i didnt do anything special
[05:23] <Ben64> yeah i have it running too
[05:23] <Ben64> easy peasy lemon squeezy
[05:23] <gleaken> Is anyone familiar with the usb error, cannot bind on USB port.  I tried unbinding and rebinding the ehci_hcd driver and now it doesn't bind upon reboot.  Is there anyone who is familiar with that issue?
[05:24] <holstein> XSevenX: its click and run..
[05:24] <Ben64> apparently it's easier to complain then to try
[05:25] <Xchatnova> hola
[05:25] <Xchatnova> hi
[05:25] <XSevenX> holstein I did attempt to run the "df" file and it did nothing but stall/sit here
[05:25] <penth> Meanwhile, I solved the problem I've been asking about all evening with compiz --replace, per  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/735162
[05:25] <XSevenX> thus I tried terminal commands
[05:25] <XSevenX> and then I went to the website for further help
[05:25] <holstein> XSevenX: its running for me.. try right click and run in terminal and see what the errors are
[05:26] <XSevenX> terminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens
[05:26] <holstein> XSevenX: make it executable.. and run it in the terminal...
[05:27] <XSevenX> it says "df" is an executable file
[05:27] <Firestorm65> any wine wizards here?  #winehq is nonresponsive
[05:27] <XSevenX> "Run in terminal", "Display", "Cancel", "Run"
[05:27] <XSevenX> and so I "Run in terminal"
[05:27] <XSevenX> terminal opens, terminal closes, nothing happens
[05:27] <Ben64> then open a terminal, navigate to where df is, and run it from terminal
[05:27] <holstein> XSevenX: maybe start over and re-download it.. i grabbed http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/df_34_11_linux.tar.bz2
[05:27] <Nach0z> Firestorm65: ask away hombre, someone might know the answer
[05:28] <XSevenX> I have the same package holstein
[05:28] <Firestorm65> http://pastebin.com/y44Zax98 just want to fix this
[05:28] <Firestorm65> not sure if it's as simple as finding the ddl or more involved
[05:28] <XSevenX> I have df_linux in my "Home" folder
[05:28] <jefimenko> this is probably a longshot, but does anyone here know how to run the equivalent of debuild using pbuilder-dist?
[05:28] <holstein> XSevenX: i extracted the download, and right clicked on "df" and set it to executable.. then i clicked it and ran it in terminal..
[05:29] <XSevenX> what do you mean you "set it" to executable?
[05:29] <holstein> XSevenX: navigate inside "df_linux" do "df".. right click on it, and go to permissions and set it to executable
[05:30] <XSevenX> okay, I went to Properties, and I allowed it to execute as a program
[05:30] <penth> jefimenko,  you'd probably get better advice in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-packaging
[05:30] <XSevenX> and I just attempted to open in terminal, and then also run it
[05:30] <XSevenX> both options yielded no results
[05:30] <|Anthony|> just to be sure before i do this on an existing user account... doing usermod -a -G share someuser will add that user to the share group WITHOUT changing any of their current group assignments?
[05:30] <|Anthony|> i've had bad experience with usermod in the past
[05:30] <|Anthony|> :/
[05:31] <holstein> XSevenX: it being what? /path/to/df_linux/df ?
[05:31] <XSevenX> I don't know how to find my home folder from the terminal
[05:31] <holstein> XSevenX: try re-downloading.. it literally ran first try for me.. easy.. and im not trying to be combative
[05:31] <penth>    If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed,
[05:31] <penth>            the user will be removed from the group. This behaviour can be
[05:31] <penth>            changed via the -a option, which appends the user to the current
[05:31] <penth>            supplementary group list
[05:31] <holstein> XSevenX: is it in Downloads?
[05:31] <FloodBot1> penth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <dr_willis> just 'cd' takes you to your home
[05:32] <penth> oops. But yes, -a -G should do the trick Anthony (so siath the man page)
[05:32] <Firestorm65> I have the correct .dll in my windows partition
[05:32] <penth> Personally, I use vigr :)
[05:32] <Firestorm65> how do I use that to run a program in wine?
[05:32] <holstein> XSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/
[05:32] <XSevenX> I just redownloaded it and saved the tar.biz in downloads
[05:33] <holstein> !wine
[05:33] <dr_willis> Firestorm65:  run what exactly? you dont run a .dll
[05:33] <Firestorm65> run the program, it is missing a .dll
[05:33] <Firestorm65> run the .exe, excuse me
[05:34] <penth> Firestorm65, best asked in #winehq.
[05:34] <dr_willis> wine has its own emulated windows driv  in .wine/ Firestorm65
[05:34] <Firestorm65> no one's home there
[05:34] <XSevenX> holstein I do not know how to navigate to anything in this terminal because the way this OS sorts files is unfamiliar to me
[05:34] <penth> ok, sorry.
[05:34] <alainus> i'm getting "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found." in GRUB, and then a grub rescue> prompt. what shall i do ??
[05:34] <dr_willis> copy the dll to the right wine win32 dir. in .wine or perhaps put it in the samw dir as the .exe
[05:34] <holstein> XSevenX: cd ~/Downloads/df_linux/
[05:35] <holstein> XSevenX: let me delete mine, and i'll copy paste what works for me
[05:36] <XSevenX> ok I've found it in the terminal holstein
[05:36] <XSevenX> what's really stupid
[05:36] <XSevenX> is that I've figured out how to view my system processes
[05:36] <XSevenX> and kill processes
[05:36] <XSevenX> without any informmation
[05:37] <XSevenX> but getting anything to function or run on this OS requires 10 hours of labor and 20 hours of hard study
[05:37] <XSevenX> why would they design something this difficult to use
[05:37] <suhaib> anyone has tried 13.1 here ?
[05:37] <suhaib> AMD 13.1 catalyst driver ?
[05:38] <dr_willis> suhaib:  #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[05:38] <dr_willis> linux grew.. not really designed..
[05:38] <suhaib> dr_willis: do you think I should install 13.04 now ? or wait for the beta
[05:38] <holstein> XSevenX: i'll pastebin you *exactly* what worked for me, but keep your posting in here support related please
[05:39] <Firestorm65> I put the .dll in the system32 folder and the bin folder
[05:39] <Firestorm65> neither changed anything
[05:39] <dr_willis> suhaib:  im not even sure if they are doing the beta stuff any more. or how they call it
[05:40] <suhaib> dr_willis: accroding to the wiki, it says they are releasing the beta on 7th of march :-s
[05:40] <dr_willis> Firestorm65:  the #windows guys may now the proper way to add it..
[05:40] <Guest26914> guys
[05:40] <Ben64> Firestorm65: i think theres a winetricks for it
[05:40] <dr_willis> suhaib:  ive not tried 13.04 yet. no time to install it.
[05:40] <suhaib> Guest26914: yes Guest26914
[05:40] <Firestorm65> haven't messed with winetricks
[05:40] <Firestorm65> will check that out
[05:40] <dr_willis> Firestorm65:  what dll is it?
[05:40] <suhaib> dr_willis: Oh, I see
[05:41] <Firestorm65> X3DAudio1_2.dll
[05:41] <holstein> XSevenX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589612/ is yielding http://imagebin.org/249154
[05:41] <dr_willis> Firestorm65: whats it supposed to be for?
[05:42] <Firestorm65> The program is SupremeCommander.exe, an RTS game
[05:42] <linsirzhu> hello
[05:42] <Firestorm65> no idea what the .dll is for besides the obvious of the name
[05:42] <XSevenX> holstein
[05:42] <XSevenX> how am I supposed to know these commands that you are using
[05:42] <dr_willis> if its part of directx stuff winetricks may be able to fix it up
[05:42] <Firestorm65> it probably is
[05:43] <holstein> XSevenX: i gave them to you.. in the pastebin.. you can do it in the GUI as well.. i did, by reading the readme
[05:43] <Firestorm65> but it's not on the winetricks list
[05:43] <linsirzhu> who has the command set ?
[05:43] <Firestorm65> so not sure what to do
[05:43] <XSevenX> no holstein I mean how do YOU know these commands?
[05:43] <dr_willis> Firestorm65:  checked the wine app database?
[05:43] <Ben64> Firestorm65: if you put the dll manually in the system32 directory, you need to enable it with winecfg
[05:43] <holstein> XSevenX: experience..and reading readme's.. and asking questions..
[05:43] <Firestorm65> what's the command for that Ben64?
[05:44] <Ben64> Firestorm65: winecfg
[05:44] <holstein> XSevenX: i didnt open the terminal the first time.. i just right clicked
[05:44] <Firestorm65> lol okay
[05:44] <Firestorm65> so what do I do from there?
[05:44] <Firestorm65> add it to the list of overrides?
[05:45] <Ben64> Firestorm65: yeah, and set it to "native"
[05:45] <linsirzhu> what are you talking about?
[05:45] <penth> If you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier. Since DF is a 32-bit application, it needs 32-bit versions of the shared libraries. Some Linux distributions provide these in one or more packages that you can download. For example, in Debian, the ia32-libs package contains most of the common 32-bit libraries, including libSDL (saith http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Installation)
[05:45] <XSevenX> holstein it just says chmod: cannot access `./d': No such file or directory
[05:46] <XSevenX> same if I add data/ df
[05:46] <linsirzhu> holstein ,I don
[05:46] <holstein> XSevenX: its not './d'.. its './df'
[05:46] <Firestorm65> nothing changed
[05:46] <XSevenX> 4th line says ./d, and then /data df
[05:46] <Firestorm65> not sure I did it right
[05:47] <XSevenX> error with something to do with libSDL1.2.so.0
[05:47] <holstein> XSevenX: that was a tab complete.. i should have taken that out.. would you like for me to? or can you just skip to the next one that will work?
[05:48] <holstein> XSevenX: is this a 64bit install? as penth asked?
[05:48] <XSevenX> so I have to go through the process of downloading libraries for my 64-bit installation
[05:48] <penth> for the libsdl error, see what I just posted above
[05:48] <Curs0r> 11.10 :) the march progresses haha
[05:48] <Firestorm65> I added it, set to native
[05:48] <Firestorm65> then tried to run from terminal
[05:48] <Firestorm65> same error
[05:48] <XSevenX> " If you're on a 64-bit system, then things get a bit trickier."
[05:48] <XSevenX> aka I'm going to want to rip my hair out
[05:49] <holstein> XSevenX: then run the suggested 32bit 12.04
[05:49] <penth> You chose to play an unpackaged game without source code.
[05:49] <holstein> XSevenX: i literally clicked and ran it from 12.04 32bit..
[05:49] <XSevenX> I don't understand what you're saying
[05:49] <Ben64> XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[05:50] <Firestorm65> okay, which version of directx should I install using wine-tricks
[05:50] <Firestorm65> the .dll is from directx
[05:50] <holstein> XSevenX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit will help
[05:50] <holstein> XSevenX: assuming you are running a 64bit os.. and trying to run the 32bit game you downloaded
[05:51] <Ben64> Firestorm65: have you installed "xact" from winetricks
[05:51] <Firestorm65> Is there any way I will hurt anything by installing all the dlls in winetricks
[05:51] <Firestorm65> and no, not yet
[05:51] <XSevenX> holstein I don't even understand the significance of 32-bit or 64-bit
[05:51] <RustyShackleford> I can't remember the name of a package that lets you tweak pulseaudio
[05:51] <Firestorm65> first time running winetricks
[05:51] <Ben64> Firestorm65: well you should, the appdb page says to
[05:51] <Ben64> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7038
[05:51] <bsnl> Ok so it turned out they pretty much sucked at giving directions, I got the program running easy now
[05:51] <XSevenX> I simply assumed that 64-bit was better, and that I'm running a fairly high-end and new processor, so I went with a 64-bit OS installation
[05:52] <Ben64> XSevenX: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[05:52] <bsnl> I don't mean you guys, the people who wrote the directions on the program download website
[05:52] <Firestorm65> I don't know what xact is.
[05:52] <bsnl> meant those guys
[05:52] <gnuskool> bsnl, gentoo?
[05:52] <XSevenX> and when I was running 32-bit I often had to get specific .dll's in Windows so that 64-bit applications would function properly on my 32-bit OS
[05:52] <XSevenX> I did that ben64
[05:52] <Firestorm65> nvmd found it
[05:52] <holstein> XSevenX: thats why i would suggest just running 32bit.. or coming here and asking one of the volunteers.. or install the 32bit ia32-libs package that several have suggested
[05:52] <XSevenX> it's still installation the libraries
[05:52] <penth> It is, but you'll note from the df wiki that the game is precompiled with 32-bit libraries. No choice but to download the libraries or play somehting else
[05:52] <XSevenX> installing*
[05:53] <dr_willis> i only use 64bit.. and rarely have issues with 32bit apps.
[05:53] <Ben64> XSevenX: then you should be good
[05:53] <penth> You could always play nethack or minecraft
[05:53] <SunStar> i have more issues running a 32bit OS than 64
[05:53] <XSevenX> I have yet to try and tackle Minecraft penth
[05:53] <bsnl> No not gentoo, just brainworkshop. They never specified the contents had to be removed from the extracted folder and then placed in the hard drive directory as naked files with no file
[05:53] <bsnl> That was the problem the whole time
[05:53] <dr_willis> ia32-libs always get installed on my systems
[05:54] <XSevenX> I simply assume from now on that if I want to run anything that I'm not already running on this OS that it is going to take at least 10 hours of continuous effort to do so
[05:54] <gnuskool> XSevenX: isin't this fun?? you'll love the game a lot more after this experience :d
[05:54] <Firestorm65> I told winetricks to install ALL directx9 versions it had
[05:54] <Firestorm65> did I just break it?
[05:54] <Ben64> XSevenX: no it doesn't
[05:54] <XSevenX> gnuskool no this is not fun
[05:54] <bsnl> they said the extracted folder containing the contents on the hard drive directory would have run
[05:54] <holstein> XSevenX: please stay on topic in here.. this is *not* where to vent.. we are all volunteers here to help
[05:54] <penth> Minecraft has no problem. Use openjdk-6-jre
[05:54] <Ben64> XSevenX: i had dwarf fortress running within 2 minutes
[05:55] <XSevenX> Ben64 you had the libraries that I didn't
[05:55] <XSevenX> DF is now running
[05:55] <Ben64> which took one command to install
[05:55] <bsnl> But still thanks dr_willis and knoppies for trying to help earlier
[05:55] <penth> tadaa
[05:55] <Ben64> it's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be
[05:55] <dr_willis> magically delicious
[05:55] <XSevenX> Ben64 you knew the command to get the installation
[05:55] <holstein> XSevenX: if you can relax and stay constructive, it will be helpful for the volunteers.. i had no idea you were on 64bit
[05:55] <XSevenX> how am I supposed to know a command I've never seen?
[05:55] <Ben64> it says you need 32 bit libraries on the install page
[05:56] <holstein> !ot | XSevenX
[05:56] <dr_willis> ive some  very poorly done linux ports of many humble/indie games...
[05:56] <gnuskool> all is well...
[05:56] <Ben64> instead of coming here and ranting for 10 minutes you could have said "hey I don't think i have 32 bit libraries, how do i get em?"
[05:56] <XSevenX> because how would I even know that ben64
[05:56] <Ben64> the readme...
[05:56]  * dr_willis wonders if the game has a forums page
[05:56] <holstein> XSevenX: it says in the readme what you need
[05:56] <bsnl> Also the command I had to run to get brainworkshop to run was just python brainworkshop.pyw and nothing else even though they specified more was needed in the command
[05:57] <penth> by reading the readme and the wiki. Also, good Google-fu is a friend for life.
[05:57] <bsnl> ^
[05:57] <dr_willis> bsnl:  i never saw them specify more. ;) but guess it dosent matter
[05:57] <holstein> or asking one of the volunteers to help you read through it..
[05:57] <XSevenX> But why wouldn't these libraries come standard if they are required to run 32-bit programs? That is what I don't understand.
[05:58] <gnuskool> bnsl, you were combining the command plus the directory path that comes before it from the other person's pc, after a while you will notice and only nVIGATE TO THE PATH, THEN ONLY TYPE THE COMMAND
[05:58] <dr_willis> XSevenX:  many people dont need them
[05:58] <bsnl> Oh no dr_willis its not you, I just think the directions they wrote didn't match up with what was working for my computer. The commands probably would have worked for a bunch of ppl but this computer is stubborn at times haha
[05:58] <penth> Because when you install packages from the repository, you're getting 64-bit versions
[05:58] <gnuskool> bnsl, oops CAPS LOCK, my bad
[05:59] <penth> and when you compile them yourself, you're creating 64-bit versions. It's rare to need 32-bit libraries on a 54-bit system, and only because you're using precompiled software that wasn't built for 64-bits.
[05:59] <bsnl> Right gnuskool but the commands I posted when I was on track were the ones the website gave me and then the commands after that that were suggested by people here
[05:59] <dr_willis> about the only 32bit apps i run are games.. and only the humble-bundle/3rd party games
[05:59] <bsnl> I just have a weird machine lol
[05:59] <gnuskool> bsnl, i suggest do a quick tutorial o command line basics and you'll get it in 5 minutes
[06:00] <penth> (Plus, when I need a 32-bit system I usually just create a virtual machine anymore)
[06:00] <bsnl> I'm just expressing i'm very happy to have finally found an approach that worked, took me a few hours lol
[06:00] <dr_willis> bsnl:  for a 5 min task. ;)
[06:00] <XSevenX> penth speaking of "compiling" that is something else I don't understand. I have tried to figure out how to use wine several times, and every guide I find says I need/should enter commands in the terminal after compiling it/to compile it, or something else that I just don't even understand.
[06:00] <penth> gj bsnl, and your next go should be smoother
[06:00] <gnuskool> bsnl, awesome
[06:01] <holstein> !wine | XSevenX
[06:01] <Ben64> XSevenX: you don't need to compile anything for wine
[06:01] <dr_willis> XSevenX:  ive never needed to compile for wine.. so no idea what you are reading
[06:01] <bsnl> Well dr_willis none of the commands offered here were working on my machine to make the program run, I think it was just some bad luck
[06:01] <dr_willis> XSevenX:  wine 101,    wine /path/to/the/game.exe
[06:01] <holstein> XSevenX: you just install it.. though i would look for native applications and enjoy some of what the OS actually maintains for you.. see some of the native polish
[06:02] <dr_willis> bsnl:  what i saw was typos on your part. ;)
[06:02] <bsnl> And there were also times where I typed them just fine
[06:02] <XSevenX> I posted about this in here a couple weeks back: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141&iTestingId=61335
[06:02] <penth> compiling is something you do with source code, nothing to do with wine. Don't worry about it so much, it was just an example of why 32-bit libraries aren't installed by default
[06:02] <XSevenX> I'm not even interested in getting it to run anymore
[06:03] <holstein> XSevenX: so, should the volunteers here ignore that then?
[06:03] <XSevenX> but this is just an example of how I don't understand anything this guide is telling me to do, and I don't understand what it is trying to accomplish
[06:03] <dr_willis> bsnl:  every thing i saw was wrong.. but i pop in and out all day.. ;P
[06:03] <panorain> dr_willis thank you for the help with my usb earlier
[06:03] <bsnl> Everything? But I was pretty much copy/pasting what you gave me after a certain point, why didn't you say anything earlier?
[06:04] <XSevenX> I tried rereading the steps for this guide so mmany times, and none of it makes sense to me, I follow them to a point and then I just hit a wall where nothing makes sense.
[06:04] <dr_willis> bsnl:  you have to be in the right location.. that was the main error i saw
[06:04] <XSevenX> and this has been my experience for every time that I've tried to use wine to install anything- mind you I have only attempted to install "Gold" or better rated programs that have next-to 100% functionality
[06:05] <dr_willis> 'location, location, location'  ;P
[06:05] <XSevenX> so I'm baffled when people keep telling me how easy it is to use wine
[06:05] <bsnl> It's just the stumbling steps of being new, they'll wear off XSevenX
[06:05] <dr_willis> hmm. i just do   wine gameinstaller.exe        then let it put the icons pn the desktop
[06:06] <gnuskool> XSevenX: look n youtube for a wine video, maybe you'll get it visually much easier, because it really dead easy
[06:07] <XSevenX> I have tried this gnuskool.. At first I follow along fine, and then everything gets overcomplicated extremely fast
[06:07] <dr_willis> double clicking o n the .exes may not work right. since any error messages may get hidden
[06:07] <penth> Just never try to run the xp desktop in wine; I flushed a dual-boot partition that way once %)
[06:08] <bsnl> dr_willis actually the location turned out to be perfectly fine, the embarrassing truth is I had it in the right place all along. The problem was that I needed the files OUTSIDE of the folder in that location, but the download guide on the site said to keep them in the folder after extraction
[06:08] <bsnl> that was pretty much the whole thing in a bottle
[06:08] <XSevenX> often redirected to several websites, where I'll need to make installations of various workarounds for something.. and then I have to go to other websites to get files required by the workarounds, and before I know it, I'm supposed to be making a script or something, or typing out 50 lines of code to get something to function
[06:09] <XSevenX> I'm scared to even try to get the proper firmware for any of my hardware because it likely isn't compatible with Linux and I'm going to have to have a workaround for any of it.
[06:09] <bsnl> needed the files inside the folder moved outside of the folder to be in that location, leaving the empty file behind*
[06:09] <bsnl> whoopsy
[06:09] <penth> With experience, you learn to evaluate sources better. AskUbuntu.com and stackexchange are among the most reliable
[06:09] <gnuskool> XSevenX: most drivers are plugnplay nowadays, no need to worry
[06:10] <XSevenX> My keyboard is a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate
[06:10] <XSevenX> I've got several issues with it because the proper firmmware is not installed
[06:10] <ASHER1> Hello i need please help about ftp server i install ftp and i try to upfile and i get error how i can fix this?
[06:10] <XSevenX> I have several keys that rapid-fire repeat VERY quickly, like my m key, which will repeat as many as 20 times in a single press, CONSTANTLY.
[06:11] <XSevenX> I confirmmed on my previous PC that this problem was caused with the proper firmware not being installed
[06:11] <penth> gaming keyboards are, pardon the pun, twitchy
[06:11] <penth> I have a G510 with support issues too
[06:11] <XSevenX> however Razer does not have a Linuxx version of their software, and so I will be forced to use workarounds, which will no doubt require hours of scripting or something in order to use
[06:11] <dr_willis> weird hardware can be weird
[06:11] <XSevenX> the entire prospect makes me not even want to bother, and just use my backspace key mmmore
[06:12] <penth> Razor is owned by Microsoft. There will be no official Linux drivers.
[06:12] <dr_willis> i found a razer control deamon for my razor mouse the other day
[06:13] <ubuntu22> Since apparently there is no zen cart irc in existance, can anyone help me with a small design problem?
[06:14] <gnuskool> ubuntu22: ask, maybe someone knows
[06:16] <ubuntu22> I am using the default template for zen cart.  I need to change the column width for the product image column on the product listing page.  Inside of zen cart I can change the width of the "Price" column, but not the "Product Image" column.
[06:16] <bsnl> lol nevermind dr_willis, you're right, I totally noobed this up hard. I will never try to install something while incredibly groggy ever again lol
[06:18] <ASHER1> Hello
[06:18] <ASHER1> i need please help
[06:19] <Corey> Oh dear.
[06:21] <Corey> ASHER1: What's the error say?
[06:22] <ASHER1> i have problem with something
[06:22] <ASHER1> and i dont know if this from ftp install ubuntu or later
[06:22] <ASHER1> this my error
[06:22] <ASHER1> http://ufu.co.il/files/0gl3ad7ck50v0eqxxlc3.jpg
[06:23] <Corey> Looks like an authenticationf ailure, ASHER1.  Did you follow a tutorial?
[06:23] <SunStar> try typing https:// at the beginning of the address
[06:25] <ASHER1> i try to upfile from updata manager
[06:25] <Corey> !il | ASHER1
[06:25] <Corey> That may help.
[06:25] <ASHER1> i dont need join there
[06:25] <ASHER1> i ask in here
[06:26] <jony> a good desktop notes software?
[06:26] <SunStar> try typing https:// at the beginning of the address. the server might be rejecting non secure login
[06:27] <ASHER1> ok i explain if i write ftp://localhost then i can inside to ftp but if i try to upfile i see error
[06:27] <SunStar> are you connecting to a mysql database?
[06:27] <ASHER1> yes
[06:28] <SunStar> ask in #mysql
[06:28] <SunStar> sounds like a DB issue
[06:29] <ASHER1> no :\ you dont understand i explain again i try to upfile from update manager and this computer give to me error later computer no i dont why
[06:30] <SunStar> did you look at the file its pointing you to? the ftp.include?
[06:31] <SunStar> have you checked your drupal configs?
[06:31] <SunStar> have you tried asking in #drupal
[06:32] <SunStar> i'd be very surprised if this is actually an ubuntu issue. its an issue with one of your webserver scripts / ftp server / mysql database
[06:36] <dr_willis> glad i stick with scp/ssh/sshfs
[06:36] <panorain> can you help me with slitaz 4 ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> panorain:  since its not ubuntu.. not really. check their official support channels?
[06:36] <dr_willis> or the #linux channel
[06:37] <panorain> dr_willis ok thank you
[06:37] <dr_willis> the alias bot can search for a slitaz channel
[06:38] <dr_willis> !alis
[06:40] <metals> Hi. After installing Ubuntu on my external HDD, it shows this during boot: ata_id 311 hdio_get_identity failed for invalid argument what should I do?
[06:41] <dr_willis> metals:  is it actually failiong to boot?\
[06:41] <dr_willis> failing
[06:42] <metals> It brings up the purple Ubuntu page and then shows this message in a black page and does nothing afterwards
[06:42] <dr_willis> im not sure that message is the cause of the issue. I recall seeing the same thing on my working systems.
[06:42] <dr_willis> You may want to try the nomodeset option.    or the text based options.. to see if it can boot those ways
[06:42] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:43] <SunStar> how long did you give it? i've seen ubuntu based systems running from USB take as long as 20 minutes to boot
[06:43] <dr_willis> Hmm. ive ran from normal USB flash drives.. definatly did not take that long. ;) but they are definatly slower then a internal HD.
[06:44] <metals> actually, it is a USB 3 external one and I had Kubuntu on it and worked very well
[06:44] <dr_willis> perhaps 3 min  here from a external usb flash drive
[06:45] <dr_willis> Not sure if my system can boot from USB3.. may have to try that this weekend.
[06:45] <SunStar> 20 minutes was from a casper system running on a first gen P4 over USB1.1 HDD (single wire for both power & data)
[06:45] <dr_willis> usb1 ;)  *shudder*
[06:46] <dr_willis> and here we are with usb3 - but esata was supposed to take over..  still waiting for that.
[06:53] <metals> so ya think I have to wait until it comes up?
[06:56] <SunStar> no you should do a debug startup and watch the boot process
[06:57] <SunStar> also check all the connections. last time i had trouble with a USB HDD, it was missing a pin on the USB adapter
[06:59] <jeeves_moss> how can I look for duplicate videos in a very large data set?  I need to look baised on content
[07:01] <metals> SunStar: how can I do that?
[07:04] <ero-jiji> evenin all
[07:07] <kalenjohnson> I just had the xsession-errors shoot up to around 60gb tonight, on my 120gb SSD, so it filled the drive... silly xsessions
[07:07] <ero-jiji> stupid question about fschk, normally, when i want to run it, i do : sudo su to get root, then shutdown -rF now. is there a way to make the server automaticly do a fschk any time its rebooted?
[07:07] <Curs0r> Oh dear. after an upgrade to 12.04 and a reboot asterisk isn't running at all haha
[07:08] <dr_willis> ero-jiji:  dont use sudo su. just use sudo -i   and yes there is...
[07:08] <dr_willis> !fsck
[07:08] <Curs0r> or wait, it is it just took longer to start than it used to
[07:09] <dr_willis> Curs0r:  it had a busy signal? ;)
[07:09] <ero-jiji> @dr_willis thanks, still got a bit of learning to do ^^
[07:09] <dr_willis> @ is for twitter. not IRC also... ;)
[07:09] <Curs0r> dr_willis, hehe
[07:09] <dr_willis> dr_W<tab> will auto complete my nick on most clients.
[07:10] <ero-jiji> its a mod of my script if i higlight someone and hit reply, using the old UPP with a bunch of mods
[07:10] <ero-jiji> usualy to lazy to type a name haha
[07:10] <nuli> hello any body help me Codeigniter? I have question..
[07:11] <Curs0r> gnuskool, rebuilding the dadhi modules now :)
[07:11] <nuli> hello any body help me about Codeigniter? I have question and some problem..
[07:11] <nuli> hello
[07:12] <kalenjohnson> nuli, no need to ask multiple times...
[07:13] <nuli> kalen, I have some question about codeigniter
[07:14] <kalenjohnson> nuli, Yes I saw that. This is a channel about Ubuntu though...
[07:15] <strk> right after an upgrade of packages in 12.04.2 LTS the GUI doesn't start automatically anymore, complaining with being unable to use the correct resolution and prompting for: "Use low graphic mode, ..." but can't pick a choice as the neither the mouse nor the keyboard seem to control that
[07:16] <strk> I can stll CTRL-ALT-F2, login from terminal and stop/start gdm to get a working DE
[07:16] <strk> any idea what could have caused this ?
[07:16] <kalenjohnson> strk, I just had that problem, but mine happened because the disk was full because .xsession-errors was going crazy and filling up to 60+gb's
[07:17] <strk> -rw------- 1 strk strk 116482 Mar  5 19:07 .xsession-errors
[07:18] <kalenjohnson> yours is fine :)
[07:18] <strk> 1304420 kb available on the most crowded filesystem
[07:18] <nuli> how to visible .htaccess file on ubuntu???
[07:18] <gry> nuli: In what file manager?
[07:19] <strk> found the unusable prompt to be "zenity" (just killed to confirm)
[07:19] <kalenjohnson> that durn zenity
[07:19] <gry> nuli: Try checking your file manager settings for a "Show hidden files" setting.
[07:19] <rsumi> anyone know of file system that can support more than 30tb as a single partition?
[07:19] <nuli> how to setting it???
[07:19] <gry> nuli: I wouldn't know, the process is different for different file managers. What file manager are you using?
[07:20] <apb1963_> I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script.  Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that?  Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e".  Not sure how to get from here to there.  Any help?
[07:21] <nuli> sorry im new comer on ubuntu,,,  File manager,, what do u mean sir??
[07:21] <apb1963_> rsumi: Why not use LVM?  Logical Volume Manager.  Disclaimer: That's all I know about the subject.
[07:21] <strk> kalenjohnson: but can't apt-get remove zenity or compiz or unity w/out being prompted to drop "ubuntu-desktop" :/ -- should I drop that ? (I use gnome classic)
[07:21] <dr_willis> nautilus is the default file manager for Ubuntu/unity/gnome
[07:22] <dr_willis> strk:  ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package. its ok to remove it
[07:22] <dr_willis> i dont see the point in removeing those packages however
[07:22] <gnuskool> rsumi: zfs?
[07:23] <dr_willis> ctrl-h in nautilus shows 'hidden files' those starting with a .   nuli
[07:24] <strk> dr_willis: do you have any idea how to debug the problem with zenity being started and not responding to mouse or keyword events then ?
[07:24] <SunStar> aka CTRL + (H)ide my porn
[07:24] <Curs0r>  channel.c:5603 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'DAHDI' uh-oh. And it seemed to be going so well
[07:24] <gnuskool> rsumi: use zfs on freenas
[07:24] <dr_willis> strk:  not heard of any others with that issue. so no idea. not seen it mentioned in here.
[07:25] <nrdb> I am setting up a sshd in a chroot, do I need to change the etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key files?
[07:25] <dr_willis> !info zenity
[07:26] <jeeves_moss> how can I mount a smb share from the GUI to a location so I can then access the share from the CLI?
[07:27] <SunStar> symbolic link?
[07:27] <dr_willis> jeeves_moss: i think nautilys allready puts them in your users .gvfs directory
[07:27] <jeeves_moss> dr_willis, under the home dir?
[07:27] <apb1963_> rsumi:  The ext4 filesystem can support volumes with sizes up to 1 exbibyte (EiB) and files with sizes up to 16 tebibytes (TiB).  Disclaimer: I went to wikipedia for info.  You can too!
[07:27] <dr_willis> jeeves_moss:  thats where .gvfs is at.. yes
[07:28] <jeeves_moss> dr_willis, thanks
[07:28] <SunStar> not in my system
[07:28] <jeeves_moss> dr_willis, you 'da man
[07:30] <dr_willis> !info fusesmb
[07:31] <dr_willis> i wonder how well fusesmb works these days.. i used it for ages.. then it started having issues
[07:31] <dr_willis> anyone tried it recently? it puts all your windows shares/machines in a 'Directory' that changes as the network changes/shares showup/vanish
[07:32] <apb1963_> zfs sonds better.  lol
[07:32] <apb1963_> +u
[07:32] <dr_willis> i dont think zfs is officially in the kernel yet is it?
[07:32] <dr_willis> !zfs
[07:32] <Curs0r> I think I can feel bits of my brain falling away like so much wet cake
[07:32] <apb1963_> I could go for some wet cake
[07:33] <dr_willis> the wet cake is a wet lie.
[07:33] <dr_willis> ;P
[07:33] <apb1963_> But so sweet
[07:33] <Firestorm65> "Create the registry string HKCU/Software/Wine/Direct3D/OffscreenRenderingMode and set it to fbo "
[07:33] <Firestorm65> How do I do that?
[07:33] <Curs0r> damn portal fans are everywhere
[07:33] <apb1963_> firestorm: #windows is probably a better yet, but "regedit" is prolly what you want.
[07:33] <Curs0r> I grow further impressed with my inability to master what sounded like such a simple task 10 hours ago lol
[07:33] <apb1963_> s/yet/bet
[07:34] <apb1963_> I've put off my simple tasks all day... I figure why do today what I can do this weekend?
[07:34] <gnuskool> cursor, not working?
[07:35] <gnuskool> Curs0r: not working?
[07:35] <apb1963_> I need to modify root's crontab file by way of a bash script.  Any suggestions as to the best way to go about doing that?  Normally I'd just append to the file... but apparently the way of the day is "crontab -e".  Not sure how to get from here to there.  Any help?
[07:35] <Curs0r> gnuskool, your advice worked wonderfully. Now my dear asterisk server is not so well with our friend the card or... something.
[07:36] <Curs0r> No channels is the cry of asterisk as my software sip client also fails admiraly at nat traversal
[07:36] <Curs0r> admirably*
[07:37] <subcool> whats the deal with boot-repair?
[07:37] <Curs0r> But the modules are indeed loaded nad they do load themselves after a reboot, so yay there. The inevitable however is that asterisk seems most displeased with it
[07:39] <apb1963_> Curs0r: could you wax less poetic and wane more specific?
[07:39] <Curs0r> I am not prepared to rule out nat traversal being part of the issue in gaining a dahdi channel as it doesn't stay connected to the hold music longer than 60 seconds
[07:39] <dr_willis>  please state your questions  in the form of a haiku .....
[07:40] <apb1963_> heh
[07:40] <Curs0r> I literally have not slept in 36 hours, pardon me if get a bit abstract
[07:40] <apb1963_> I'm pretty sure you found the problem then
[07:40] <subcool> dr_willis, whats up with boot repair? i cant install it- i have added the repo. but its just not in there
[07:40] <Curs0r> Yes well I'd much rather sleep than deal with this to be sure
[07:41] <dr_willis> subcool:  no idea. could be server is down or getting updated
[07:41] <Curs0r> Robert Frost had some lofty verbiage about that I think
[07:41] <apb1963_> I prefer the verbiage of Mr. Freeze
[07:41] <subcool> great- and and one liveusb i do have keeps complaining about closing some software manager :/
[07:42] <subcool> dr_willis, ^^
[07:42] <tsdh> Hi. Is there a way to disable all effects in unity? I'm running it in a VirtualBox, and it's very slow and compiz takes up one third of the complete memory.
[07:42] <subcool> dr_willis, any particular rreason it would be doing that?
[07:42] <dr_willis> make sure all rhe apt tols are closed.
[07:42] <dr_willis> there is a custom boot-repair live cd.
[07:43] <subcool> i freashly booted the usb, and ran the program. and it still said that
[07:43] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[07:43] <subcool> thanks!
[07:45] <sinnfluter> hi and good morning
[07:46] <sinnfluter> anybody experienced with follwowing setup: RDP-Connection to Ubuntu as VM on a cluster? And time settings in such set ups?
[07:46] <clody> if I want to add a script on ubuntu bootup, where do I add it ?
[07:46] <clody> inside /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[07:47] <sinnfluter> @clody: maybe you can find something here: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown
[07:48] <sinnfluter> how can I find out where my OS is taking the time from??
[07:48] <gnuskool> Curs0r: all modules load ok?
[07:48] <Curs0r> gnuskool, yes that is correct
[07:48] <strk> FYI: dropping unity* fixed my issue with graphic mode
[07:49] <gnuskool> Curs0r: im at work man, but i'll try give hints when i can
[07:49] <dr_willis> clody: depends on what its doing also
[07:50] <Curs0r> Well I can call my own sip client extension from it. calling the PTSN with my cell doesn't ring my extension so the dahdi isn't happy
[07:50] <clody> dr_willis, lemme check if this works, brb
[07:50] <Curs0r> But we knew that so I'm kind of stating the obvious there
[07:50] <clody> thanks sinnfluter for now
[07:51] <AAA> sinnfluter: do you mean the timezone? or how is it keeping in sync? (like ntp)
[07:51] <sinnfluter> how it is keeping the sync
[07:52] <sinnfluter> because after setting the time manually with sudo date ...
[07:52] <AAA> sinnfluter: do you have ntp and/or ntpd installed?
[07:52] <sinnfluter> ntp
[07:52] <sinnfluter> ntp is installed and there is a /etc/ntp.conf
[07:52] <AAA> sinnfluter: ntpdate should give you the server information
[07:53] <AAA> sinnfluter: did you update them after install? what is your concern?
[07:53] <sinnfluter> it says no servers can be used
[07:53] <AAA> ntpdate <ntpd servername>
[07:54] <sinnfluter> ntpdate <ntpd servername> says that the ntp socket is in use
[07:54] <VinceThePrince> what is the correct name for "screen docking" I want to enable this is in Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[07:55] <AAA> sinnfluter: ntpdate time-a.nist.gov
[07:55] <Curs0r> http://pastebin.com/x9jsEa2x is what I get trying to use the dahdi for a dial out
[07:55] <sinnfluter> I think this is an issue of the combination VM, Remote Desktop or so
[07:55] <AAA> sinnfluter: can you pastebin your ntpd.conf?
[07:55] <sinnfluter> I can't use external time servers
[07:56] <sinnfluter> but we have an internal one which has the correct time
[07:56] <AAA> sinnfluter: so you put a real server in the ntpdate command then? ok
[07:56] <AAA> sinnfluter: is it firewalled?
[07:57] <AAA> sinnfluter: port 123 normally, can you telnet to that port on the ntpd server?
[07:57] <Curs0r> Derp, higher verbosity setting is good for complex problems. man I'm tired lol
[07:57] <sinnfluter> http://pastebin.com/3x6T7fpt
[07:58] <sinnfluter> @AAA I used a real server
[08:00] <gnuskool> Curs0r: pastebin the output of dahdi_cfg -vv
[08:01] <AAA> sinnfluter: the fallback one works.  I'm guessing you have firewall issues
[08:01] <Curs0r> gnuskool, http://pastebin.com/MB5Ctx8b
[08:01] <sinnfluter> as I said....I can't use external ntp-servers (so the fallback might not work), but I can use the internal ones
[08:02] <sinnfluter> but somehow ntp is not using them...really large offset between the time on ntp servers and my actual time
[08:02] <sinnfluter> 2 hours
[08:02] <AAA> sinnfluter: how often are the crons running on the client machines?
[08:03] <sinnfluter> how to find that out? I've to say I am not very experienced yet...
[08:04] <AAA> sinnfluter: each client (computer,host,server) that needs to rely on that time should run a cron (probably from root) that does an ntp update
[08:04] <sinnfluter> I am just wondering where I get my weird time from....
[08:05] <Kimera> what is a good high quality cell phone that works with ubuntu well?
[08:05] <subcool> dr_willis, ok. i have 2 package that are not fully installed. how do i remove them? - they are causing the error
[08:06] <dr_willis> subcool:  hmm, not sure - i rarely have to fight with apt errors..   apt-get -f install       is a normal way to straighten things out
[08:06] <Firestorm65> Okay, last question for wine I hope.
[08:06] <Kimera> what packages?
[08:06] <dr_willis> they really need to make  up some apt wizard to help repair apt when it gets confused. or give advice
[08:07] <Kimera> because I would just uninstall the two packages
[08:07] <Firestorm65> There are some .dll packages that are called by the .exe in a folder within the program tree
[08:07] <clody> whats a great vpn service
[08:07] <Firestorm65> How do I add those to wine
[08:07] <Firestorm65> ?
[08:07] <Kimera> and basically start over again
[08:07] <Kimera> sudo apt-get uninstall and then whatever the packages
[08:08] <dr_willis> clody:  been using digitalocean here. but its a vps ;) but theres a $10 credit cupon/advert on omgubuntu blog site for them.
[08:08] <sinnfluter> AAA: but for testing I could actually fire the ntpdate "servername" command manually
[08:08] <subcool> dr_willis, nah i dont wanna install it- it appears to try to install it- and just wont. i rather remove it from the install list
[08:08] <subcool> Kimera, thanks- ill try it
[08:08] <dr_willis> it might need to get installed.. then removed.. i rarely fight with apt
[08:08] <clody> dr_willis, whats difference between vps and vpn ?
[08:08] <Kimera> yeah I would also try what dr_willis says
[08:08] <sinnfluter> AAA: but that does not work as the ntp socket is in use...what does that mean?
[08:09] <dr_willis> clody:  i  can ssh into my  online server and do things. and even setup a web site if i wanted.  im running znc on it now. the lowest one is $5 a month.
[08:09] <subcool> Kimera, uninstall is not an option
[08:09] <subcool> remove?
[08:09] <Kimera> well, that is why i recommended the sudo apt-get
[08:09] <Kimera> though you could try
[08:09] <dr_willis> clody:  a vpn connects more then 1 machine to a virtual private network. ;) never really used that.
[08:09] <Kimera> sudo apt-get audoremove
[08:09] <Kimera> autoremove
[08:09] <subcool> trid  that- didnt work
[08:10] <clody> dr_willis, hows the service ? bandwidthwise ?
[08:10] <AAA> sinnfluter: is ntpd running on the machine you are trying to update from another server?
[08:10] <dr_willis> clody:  all i do is run znc on it. so cant say its been an issue.
[08:10] <clody> dr_willis, if I check my gmail using vpn will it think I am logging from different country ?
[08:11] <dr_willis> clody:  no idea. I dont use vpns
[08:11] <clody> okk
[08:11] <dr_willis> clody:  you could use a ssh tunnle to  the vps i imagine. :) if thats what you want
[08:11] <dr_willis> or X forwarding..
[08:11] <clody> i want a vpn, maybe max 2 machines will use it
[08:12] <clody> my gmail was hacked .....i hate it
[08:12] <sinnfluter> AAA: how can I find out if ntpd is running?
[08:12] <AAA> sinnfluter: sudo ps aux |grep ntp
[08:12] <dr_willis> you might be able to set up openvpn on the thing..  only other thing ive used was btguardian (or btguard?)  a year+ ago.. its not what you are looking for howevver. ;)
[08:12] <Kimera> subcool, can you find the packages in the software center
[08:13] <Kimera> cause if not, ever though about trying to complete the installations
[08:13] <clody> dr_willis, what is bitguardin good for ?
[08:13] <clody> torrent ?
[08:13] <subcool> i just used remove
[08:13] <Kimera> because if the packages are in the software center
[08:13] <subcool> sorry for the dumb q's - i just dont wanna break it badly
[08:13] <Kimera> there are really easy to remove
[08:13] <dr_willis> clody:  yep.
[08:14] <subcool> im recovering from some randomd mess up
[08:14] <Kimera> I could help better if I knew what the specific packages were
[08:14] <sinnfluter> http://pastebin.com/pn0TsjfC is what I get for ntp-processes
[08:14] <subcool> some linux-image-kernel#-gnereic
[08:14] <clody> dr_willis, where are the servers ?
[08:14] <dr_willis> clody:  seems you can set up openvpn on digitalocean.. from what i just googled.
[08:14] <subcool> i was trying to install pastebinit- and it requited those packages
[08:14] <subcool> and then failed
[08:14] <subcool> idk=
[08:14] <subcool> its a liveusb
[08:14] <subcool> things are funky
[08:14] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <dr_willis> clody:  check the digitalocean homepage.. they got some in New York and some others in Europe i belive
[08:15] <Kimera> ahh, I wouldn't have had the balls to mess with something like that
[08:15] <subcool> hahah - it still errored
[08:15] <subcool> this usb need a reflash anyways- :/
[08:15] <Kimera> well my last ditch suggestion
[08:16] <sinnfluter> AAA: so it seems that ntpd is running
[08:16] <Kimera> is wiping your system completely and reinstalling ubuntu if its causing any major difficulty
[08:16] <AAA> sinnfluter: is that one of your private ntpd servers?
[08:16] <sinnfluter> yeas
[08:16] <Kimera> cayse it sounds like, you went into some higher terminal functions then I ever mess with
[08:16] <sinnfluter> yes
[08:16] <subcool> haha- Kimera already on it- i just reinstall 12.04 because my networking got fungled somehow
[08:16] <default> #3333333333
[08:16] <AAA> sinnfluter: is the time wrong there?
[08:17] <Kimera> then again I don't do networking
[08:17] <sinnfluter> its called ntp
[08:17] <Kimera> I use ubuntu cause I like it more then apple or microsoft
[08:17] <subcool> Kimera, same- im trying ot keep on it- but some stuff just doesnt work
[08:18] <subcool> once i setup my laptops up- ill be setting up a mac on one.
[08:18] <clody> dr_willis, thanks lemme check
[08:18] <subcool> but- im running into way to many issues
[08:18] <sinnfluter> AAA: I don't think that the time is wrong at the server "ntp"...but how can I just read that time?
[08:18] <Kimera> like with installation, or modificiation?
[08:19] <AAA> sinnfluter: with date? I'm not sure what you mean
[08:20] <_ingsoc> Hello, I was wondering where I could find Ubuntu's freetype2 patches? Are they hosted somewhere?
[08:20] <sinnfluter> AAA: no I want to read the time of our internal ntp server to see if this is correct
[08:20] <_ingsoc> I know there are the Infinality patches, but I want to try the Ubuntu equivalent.
[08:20] <sinnfluter> AAA: with date I get the time of my machine
[08:21] <Kimera> freetype2
[08:21] <Kimera> ain't that the microsoft fonts for office
[08:22] <_ingsoc> No, I'm referring to the patches for this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/freetype that Ubuntu uses.
[08:23] <subcool> its still complaining about closing package managers. :/
[08:24] <AAA> sinnfluter: ntpdate -q <time server> should tell you
[08:24] <AAA> sinnfluter: the -q is 'query only'
[08:25] <subcool> how the heck is a package manager effecting a boot-repair program
[08:25] <apb1963_> Curs0r: pastebin chan_dahdi.conf
[08:25] <Firestorm65> Can someone walk me through how to fix a program's local .dll failing to load for wine?
[08:26] <Curs0r> /etc/dahdi/system.conf had some wrongness to it I just fixed hehe
[08:26] <apb1963_> double entries perhaps?
[08:26] <sinnfluter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589803/
[08:26] <sinnfluter> so there is a large offset...
[08:26] <Curs0r> It was completely wrong, erroneous lines, and wrong numbering
[08:27] <apb1963_> that doesn't help much
[08:27] <llutz> sinnfluter: are you sure your timezone is set correctly?
[08:27] <apb1963_> better now?
[08:27] <Curs0r> Now on to the file you requested, 1 sec
[08:27] <AAA> sinnfluter: if you run it without the '-q' is doesn't work?
[08:28] <apb1963_> best to test and show output first...  hard to imagine you're getting the same error
[08:28] <sinnfluter> if I run it without the q it says that the NTP socket is in use
[08:28] <AAA> sinnfluter: if this isn't a production server, I'd say do this
[08:29] <AAA> sinnfluter: /etc/init.d/ntpd stop && ntpdate <local ntpd sever> && /etc/init.d/ntpd start
[08:29] <Curs0r> chan_dahdi is riddled with example crap and is too big for me to copy the entire contents via ssh/nano it seems
[08:30] <AAA> sinnfluter: and then make sure ntpd is running (ps aux|grep ntp)
[08:30] <apb1963_> Curs0r: nobody wants to see example crap... weed it out
[08:30] <dr_willis> copy via nano? err.. use scp
[08:30] <apb1963_> if you want to keep it, make a copy for posterity
[08:30] <Curs0r> Ok, that is going to take me a bit. It's a horrible lot of bloat here lol
[08:30] <apb1963_> then weed it
[08:31] <dr_willis> with extreme prejudice
[08:31] <apb1963_> May I suggest sed?
[08:31] <VinceThePrince> If I show my specs Can anyone say if I have enough resources to run an Virtual Windows XP in Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:31] <dr_willis> VinceThePrince:  it dosent take a lot to do xp in vbox.
[08:32] <dr_willis> VinceThePrince:  ram seems to be the limiting factor in many cases
[08:32] <sinnfluter> AAA: what I get: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpd stop && ntpdate ntp && /etc/init.d/ntpd start sudo: /etc/init.d/ntpd: command not found
[08:32] <bleomycin> anyone know how to blacklist the module for spdif for intel? i seem to be suffering from this problem but can't figure out the module to blacklist? http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Intel_Linux_Modifications_for_HD_Audio#Intel_Systems_with_both_SPDIF_.26_HDMI
[08:33] <AAA> sinnfluter: maybe the daemon is just called ntp, or something similar. look around
[08:33] <AAA> sinnfluter: the '&&' made the oneliner stopo right after ../ntpd stop
[08:34] <AAA> sinnfluter: *hint* ls /etc/init.d/*ntp*
[08:36] <sinnfluter> AAA: I also found it...without the "d" in the end
[08:36] <VinceThePrince> dr_willis, 4 GB RAM and core i5 should run an XP fine right?
[08:36] <VinceThePrince> dr_willis, I don't know what load it takes on Ubuntu
[08:36] <l057c0d3r> VinceThePrince, that should be fine..
[08:36] <_ingsoc> bleomycin: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldno't you iec958 if it's available through grep?
[08:36] <AAA> sinnfluter: cool. is date giving you the proper time now?
[08:36] <_ingsoc> wouldn't*
[08:37] <sinnfluter> AAA: I was able to stop it...and when I run your command step by step
[08:37] <apb1963_> Curs0r: try sed '/^#/ d'
[08:37] <l057c0d3r> VinceThePrince, you can select how much ram to dedicate to the virtual box ext during setup of it.. but with 4gb or ram you should be fine..  really all depends on what you are trying to use it for.....  but i've ran one with less
[08:37] <sinnfluter> AAA: ...and when I run sudo ntpdate ntp: 6 Mar 09:35:37 ntpdate[4594]: step time server 62.141.187.4 offset -5514.036578 sec
[08:37] <bleomycin> _ingsoc: it shows up through the aplay grep command, but not in lsmod which is confusing
[08:38] <sinnfluter> and the time hasn'T changed...the offset is probably to large
[08:38] <_ingsoc> bleomycin: Hmm, same for me.
[08:38] <sinnfluter> AAA: anyway I have to leave for the moment and will be hopefully back soon---
[08:39] <AAA> sinnfluter: ok. look into hwclock man page too
[08:39] <Es0teric> ok so i made a new user account, with password and when i try to run source command i get this: -sh: source: not found
[08:39] <Es0teric> why is that?
[08:40] <Es0teric> i made the new user account via ssh
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> Es0teric, groups maybe?
[08:40] <Es0teric> what do you mean?
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> oh wait..
[08:40] <AAA> Es0teric: what is your path? echo $PATH (as that user)
[08:40] <llutz> Es0teric: source is a bash-builtin, you seem to use dash
[08:40] <l057c0d3r> if you are in the directory of the source have youj tried ./"flie"
[08:41] <praka> k
[08:41] <llutz> Es0teric: getent passwd <username>             does your new user have bash as login-shell?
[08:41] <Es0teric> this is my $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:41] <llutz> Es0teric: source is a bash-builtin, you seem to use dash
[08:41] <Es0teric> ok ok how do i check if the user has bash as login shell?
[08:42] <llutz> i just showed you
[08:42] <AAA> or grep <user> /etc/passwd
[08:42] <llutz> which will fail with ldap etc
[08:42] <AAA> true
[08:42] <Es0teric> llutz -> jude:x:1003:27::/home/jude:/bin/sh
[08:42] <llutz> Es0teric: dash, not bash "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username"
[08:43] <llutz> Es0teric: then relogin
[08:43] <Es0teric> there we go
[08:43] <Es0teric> thanks, llutz
[08:43] <Es0teric> now i have to do that same thing for 3 other users
[08:43] <Es0teric> =_=
[08:44] <llutz> Es0teric: next time you'd use "adduser" not useradd to add users
[08:44] <Es0teric> ah i see, llutz
[08:44] <llutz> Es0teric: just a wrapperscript, but preventing this issue
[08:47] <dr_willis> !info lm-sensors
[08:47] <AAA> llutz: wouldn't changing the shabang to #!/bin/bash done the same thing?
[08:47] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, heh its odd you would info that...
[08:47] <dr_willis> heh - text was scrolled up.. answered a question from 6+ hrs ago
[08:47] <llutz> AAA: for every script you ever run? yes
[08:47] <l057c0d3r> i installed that for my system monitor..  but the monitor is still telling me i need to install it :-p
[08:48] <dr_willis> silly android irc client likes to go to the top of the buffer when i come back to it
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> just decided i didn't need the fan speed.. since i have temp and everything else im worried about
[08:48] <llutz> AAA: but the source command wouldn't do anyways, because it is shell-builtin from bash
[08:48] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  you ran the sensor-detect tool?
[08:48] <AAA> llutz: my point was, wouldn't that be the long ther solution for this issue?
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, nope.. but i will now :-p
[08:48] <dr_willis> or was it sensors-detect
[08:48] <AAA> llutz: I see
[08:49] <dr_willis> its a wizard thing that scans and loads modules you may need loaded l057c0d3r
[08:49] <llutz> AAA: imo its better to set users shell to bash. dash is fine for system-tasks, but user... not really
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> bah.. at the end it said no sensors found
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> heh oh well
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> i can live without fan speed
[08:51] <dr_willis> could be theres no sensor on the fan
[08:52] <l057c0d3r> not sure what changed.. but after the last set of updates i installed.. my system has been running at 35c rather then 50c
[08:52] <l057c0d3r> wonder what was fixed :-p
[08:52] <dr_willis> the numbering of the temps.. ;)
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> ha
[08:53] <llutz> AAA: it would be easy to circumvent that problem, if the useradd-default wouldn't still be set to /bin/sh while they changed /bin/sh into a link to /bin/dash (/bin/bash before) "grep SHELL /etc/default/useradd"
[08:53] <dr_willis> if i recall right. the sensor apps get some sort of raw data from the sensors.. then has to convert it to the actual temp. sometimes its wrong in converting
[08:53] <VinceThePrince> da hell I can't paste screenshots into libreoffice what is this magic :(
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> makes sense
[08:53] <dr_willis> i thought sh was a link to dash
[08:54] <llutz> dr_willis: it is and thats causing the problem when using useradd
[08:54] <sinnfluter_> AAA: hi...am back on another machine, but with ssh to my machine with the time problem
[08:54] <llutz> dr_willis: "historical" it has been linked to /bin/bash
[08:54] <AAA> llutz: yeah, I forget about shit like that. I mainly deal with private repos for that stuff
[08:54] <dr_willis> so the issue is useradd is using sh then? :)
[08:54] <llutz> dr_willis: yes
[08:55] <llutz> and people use useradd without "-s /bin/bash"
[08:56] <dr_willis> friends dont let friends use useradd. ;-)
[08:56] <llutz> friends don't ask friends before they use useradd
[08:57] <dr_willis> i cant recall ever using useradd.. always adduser.
[08:58] <sinnfluter_> AAA: I think i'm getting closer to the problem with hwclock as you said... I have to find out more about the hwclock command in a virtual machine
[08:58] <llutz> i'm not sure what the gui-app uses as default-shell when creating a new useraccount... but nobody should use that anyways
[08:58] <kepler> i used useradd before, it was a travesty and i forever couldn't remember which was the good one or bad one, so each time i add a user, i use useradd and hate myself then adduser
[08:58] <tasslehoff> When I do apt-get update on my T530@12.10, stuff gets unresponsive. Today dmesg threw some I/O errors, and my entire filesystem was suddenly readonly. Any know issues with 12.10/T530/SSD/Write?
[09:01] <hector> hello
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> i don't even know why i have a swap.....  system has been running for two weeks now.. and still hasen't touched swap.. even when i was working it....
[09:02] <hector> how can  I get brightness working on samsung netbook?
[09:02] <hector> it used to work, but does not for a while
[09:03] <hector> how can  I get brightness working on samsung netbook?
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> hector, not sure sorry..  its just always worked on all my systems so never had to look into it
[09:04] <dmitry29> Hi
[09:05] <dmitry29> Anyone cares to chat via skype?
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> !rules dmitry29
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> !rules| dmitry29
[09:06] <l057c0d3r> bah..  never mind
[09:06] <hector> thank you l057c0d3r
[09:06] <l057c0d3r> hector, i can look into it a bit for you though.. no promises though
[09:07] <l057c0d3r> what modle is it?
[09:08] <dmitry29> ubottu: What does the guidelines say about my last message?
[09:08] <somsip> !pm | dmitry29
[09:08] <somsip> dmitry29: I think that was the intended message
[09:08] <hector> thank you l057c0d3r, it is samsung n150+
[09:09] <dmitry29> somsip: What does an intending message mean?
[09:09] <dmitry29> Intended
[09:09] <somsip> dmitry29: ask your question if you have a support issue.
[09:10] <ronillon> Hello, im trying to prevent ubuntu opening a root folder of usb flash after it is connected. this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160970 didnt work, as the options and paths do not exist. any ideas?
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> hector, check this stuff out and see if it helps any
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> hector, https://launchpad.net/samsung-tools
[09:11] <l057c0d3r> hector, and i know this has to do with arch but it might help some https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_N150
[09:11] <hector> thank you, now looking!
[09:13] <dmitry29> somsip: Is this channel only for support issues?
[09:13] <somsip> dmitry29: yes
[09:13] <l057c0d3r> dmitry29, yes
[09:13] <somsip> !ot | dmitry29
[09:13] <l057c0d3r> ah.. that is what i was looking for earlier somsip  :-p
[09:16] <bubba_ray> Hey guys, how can i best notify a user of a 12.04 graphical mode that he needs to do a reboot? Just touching /var/run/reboot-required does not do the trick
[09:17] <kepler> cat /dev/urandom | write <user> <tty>
[09:18] <suore> Hello :0
[09:18] <suore> I've some questions
[09:18] <kepler> he'll reboot if he gets that cropping up somewhere
[09:18] <suore> Linux is officialy the PC?.
[09:18] <kepler> or you can wall
[09:18] <IzzoDizzo> suore ?
[09:18] <kepler> his notification manager should pick that up
[09:18] <suore> Mac is Mac..., Windows is PC, Linux also is PC?
[09:19] <IzzoDizzo> mac is PC too really, personall computer
[09:19] <kepler> bubba_ray: just verified it works. use "wall" type "You need to reboot!" then ctrl+d
[09:19] <kepler> may need to sudo wall
[09:20] <bubba_ray> Oh! i did not know about wall. Ill have a look. Thnx! :)
[09:20] <suore> IF mac is PC , why in box is written "For PC/Mac computers"??
[09:20] <kepler> suore: just marketing
[09:20] <bono> man shutdown: -k     Only send out the warning messages and disable logins, do not actually bring the system down
[09:20] <kepler> nothing else
[09:20] <suore> so Linux also is PC?  right?
[09:20] <hector> I'm checking if samsung tools and samsung backlight are properly installed on my pc
[09:20] <jony> how can I low-level format an USB stick?
[09:20] <kepler> linux is a kernel for an operating system
[09:20] <k1l> suore: you got it wrong. that is from the old days when mac used other hardware
[09:21] <IzzoDizzo> suore: linux can be run on a PC too yes
[09:21] <somsip> IzzoDizzo: mac is not PC. PC is an old term dating back to IBM PC-AT (AFAIR). As in 'PC-AT compatible'
[09:21] <kepler> jony: dd
[09:21] <dr_willis> jony:  ive only ever needed to use 'dd' to zero out a usb stick. then repartion it
[09:21] <suore> k1l, aaah  okay :) thanks
[09:21] <IzzoDizzo> somsip: i think most days people use PC as personal computer now?
[09:21] <jony> how can I lunch it?
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> suore, if its a software package.. or a game..  they are refering to windows when they say pc..  and mac when they say mac... however they are all pc's  and linux can run most windows software with wine...
[09:21] <llutz> somsip: earlier, pc-XT :)
[09:22] <ewook> The destinction of mac as not a PC, is.. incorrect. Even when it was powerpc. The term PC relates even to the Mac segment.
[09:22] <kepler> jony: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<drive> bs=1M
[09:22] <bubba_ray> kepler: however.... wall only looks like it will dump the message in a terminal. I would really like to push it to several users and via the graphical interface (i thought that reboot-required should lit up the top bar with a red power off icon, but no.)
[09:22] <suore> wine wine.... native is better :D
[09:22] <dr_willis> jony:  you may want to use gparted instead
[09:22] <kepler> bubba_ray: it showed up in my notification center when i did it
[09:22] <somsip> llutz: ah - forgot. AFAIR didn't remember far back enough :)
[09:22] <jony> how can I scan the available devices?
[09:22] <dr_willis> !blkid
[09:23] <bubba_ray> Kepler: Ok, ill have another look, thnx
[09:23] <kepler> bubba_ray: i have a little blue circle telling me there is a message, and when i click it, it is the walled message
[09:23] <l057c0d3r> suore, well on the bright side..  steam is migrating a lot of stuff over
[09:23] <somsip> IzzoDizzo: they may use it that way, but though a Mac is a personal computer, it is not a PC. Enough semantics. OT
[09:23] <bubba_ray> kepler: ok, i didnt get that.
[09:23] <suore> l057c0d3r, i know, a've all linux games from steam :0
[09:23] <suore> all works perfect
[09:23] <kepler> bubba_ray: im on kubuntu, so that may be why
[09:23] <suore> some works faster than my Windows XP
[09:24] <suore> im waiting for DOD:S , and DOTA and im removing WIndows partition
[09:24] <l057c0d3r> tf2 runs great i know that much
[09:24] <suore> :)
[09:24] <k1l> suore: do you have a specific ubuntu support issue?
[09:24] <ronillon> Hello, im trying to prevent ubuntu opening a root folder of usb flash after it is connected. this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160970 didnt work, as the options and paths do not exist. any ideas?
[09:24] <jony> and if gparted won't show my stick, it meens that's dead?
[09:24] <suore> ooh yea
[09:25] <kepler> jony: is it not recognized anywhere else either?
[09:25] <bubba_ray> kepler: ah ok, it must be. i get nothing in unity
[09:25] <suore> how to run any app in other language, without relogin?
[09:25] <jony> no
[09:25] <suore> fx. firefox
[09:25] <kepler> jony: not looking good for that drive
[09:25] <wh1t3l10n> I want a free VPN for Ubuntu, help me!
[09:25] <jony> but if I insert to an USB port, it blinks 3 times
[09:25] <l057c0d3r> wh1t3l10n, a vpn is a vpn  regardless.. check google....
[09:26] <hector> found voria.org site, http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296
[09:26] <k1l> wh1t3l10n: hoster questions are not ubuntu support specific. pelase see the offtopic channel
[09:26] <Kartagis> wh1t3l10n: VPN server? VPN client? VPN service?
[09:26] <hector> this seems to be promising :)
[09:26] <kepler> jony: i think the activity LED can act independently of the actual disks -- the 3 blinks may even be an indicator of error
[09:26] <wh1t3l10n> Kartagis: A VPN service :)
[09:26] <l057c0d3r> hey hector any luck with that issue?
[09:26] <jony> kepler, ty
[09:26] <suore> one wepage require webrowser in french language, to login/register.... so how to change in terminal language of firefox, chrome ( language is intalled)
[09:26] <hector> yes, hopefully :) I found this voria site: http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296
[09:26] <hector> it seems to promise a solutionb
[09:26] <hector> solution*
[09:27] <l057c0d3r> suore.. u sure its the language they want.. or the location..
[09:27] <suore> no location
[09:27] <suore> because i change language in loginscreen
[09:27] <suore> and i normay registred
[09:27] <suore> normal
[09:27] <hector> but my modem is a bit slow, so it takes a while with update-upgrade
[09:27] <suore> and loging
[09:27] <l057c0d3r> k.. just thought i would ask
[09:27] <suore> im trying use LC_TIME="locate.utf8"
[09:28] <suore> later /usr/bin/firefox, but not working
[09:28] <guest123> hi ..  is there a list where i can see backports of 12.10 that can be used on 12.04
[09:28] <suore> with date working
[09:28] <suore> what i do bad?
[09:29] <l057c0d3r> well you changed the time.. not the language
[09:29] <wh1t3l10n> Kartagis: I can see the VPN option in "Network Connections." Is there any free service?
[09:29] <k1l> suore: lc_time is just the time setting
[09:30] <ronillon> Hello, any way to prevent opening USB stick in file manager after it is plugged in?
[09:30] <suore> ahh i think  LC_TIME is time as temporaly option
[09:30] <l057c0d3r> ronillon.. not sure what it would be in unity..
[09:30] <l057c0d3r> but
[09:30] <ronillon> that is the thing with stupid unity thing
[09:31] <dr_willis> i recall some tweak setting for that.. but never really looked into it
[09:31] <l057c0d3r> look into ubuntu tweak..
[09:31] <dr_willis> I thought you could select 'do nothing' when one got inserted
[09:31] <l057c0d3r> will probably have to add a ppa for it
[09:31] <k1l> suore: use : LC_ALL= ... for that use
[09:31] <ronillon> dr_willis: maybe for the first time
[09:31] <dr_willis> for ubuntu-tweak you can download its deb and it will add its own ppa
[09:31] <l057c0d3r> they have options under tweaks / file manager for automatically open a folder on mount
[09:31] <suore> okay :)
[09:31] <suore> thanks
[09:32] <ronillon> i guess i will just manage untill i get rid of unity
[09:32] <ronillon> but thanks
[09:32] <dr_willis> boo hoo.. mean old unity. ;P
[09:32] <l057c0d3r> ronillon  open your file manager and check in the properties / settings of it.. might be something in there
[09:32] <l057c0d3r> or look around system settings.. but ubuntu tweak is what i used to change it
[09:33] <ronillon> checked that, no options regarding media
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu tweak is easy to get...  and can easily fix that
[09:33] <dr_willis> if theres a fstab entry for the device. i think it gets ignored  via the automount stuff also
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> wait wait... i found another thing
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> does unity have the system settings ap
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> err app
[09:34] <ronillon> that would not help, i want it to be automounted, i just do not want to open it in nautilus, since im using doublecommander
[09:34] <dr_willis> all the settings are under the system--settings main window i thought
[09:34] <l057c0d3r> i run gnome-shell so guessing here
[09:35] <l057c0d3r> i found that in system-settings window..  if you click details
[09:35] <l057c0d3r> there is a removable media category...
[09:35] <l057c0d3r> and it has the options you are asking about
[09:35] <dr_willis> i belive you can set the default mimetype for 'folder' to be double commander or whatever.. and it may auto open in that instead
[09:35] <ronillon> thx a lot l057c0.."
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> that is in the detail's part of the system settings as well.. default applications
[09:36] <alku> I'm unable to connect VISIONTEK usb modem to Lubuntu 12.10 on x86. please help
[09:36] <ronillon> dr_willis: i gues that would be possible, but i do not want to open it in anything, just mount it
[09:36] <dr_willis> alku:  so what type of modem is it? dsl? cable? dialup?
[09:37] <l057c0d3r> ronillon..  again.. if all the settings in details dont work....  you should check out ubuntu tweak... it has that exact option...
[09:37] <ronillon> l057c0d3r: thx a lot man
[09:37] <l057c0d3r> to mount only...
[09:38] <alku> dr_willis: thanks for supporting. as far as i know it is a dialup modem
[09:38] <dr_willis> so it plugs into an actual phone line from the wall? not a dsl or anything fancy?
[09:38] <dr_willis> Those are sort of... rare these days. ;P
[09:39]  * kepler shuns dialup
[09:39] <dr_willis> i dont even know of any dialup ISPs left. ;)  AOL perhaps?
[09:39] <kepler> aol makes 500 million a year on their dialup, still!
[09:39] <kepler> i almost threw up when i heard that
[09:40] <dr_willis> makes me wonder whos using it...
[09:40] <dr_willis> then again.. im suprised AOL stll exists..
[09:41] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:41] <kepler> here it is:  http://www.shellypalmer.com/2013/02/aol-dialup-500-million/   >> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <alku> dr_willis it is a 3g/hspds type modem. It works fine with windows
[09:42] <alku> dr_willis: sorry i was mistaken, it plugs via usb to my laptop directly
[09:44] <kepler> alku: open a terminal, do "lsusb"
[09:44] <kepler> see if it is detected at all
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> hector, let me know if you have any luck with your situation
[09:44] <alku> kepler: i've already done lsusb. please find result below
[09:44] <alku> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0cf3:311f Atheros Communications, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 005: ID 2020:1005   Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bda:58de Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[09:44] <kepler> can you put that on pastebin?
[09:45] <kepler> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit
[09:47] <alku> kepler: pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589959/
[09:48] <lantizia> Lo, on gnome2/mate/lxde/etc... I find that it's enough to simply make a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ and it'll show in the menu - with unity this isn't the case... should I be issuing some kind of command to refresh the entries?
[09:48] <alku> kepler: output of wvdial and wvdialconf also pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589961/
[09:50] <kepler> alku: sorry, got nothing for you. just looks plain not supported :(
[09:51] <alku> kepler: thanks you, i tried sakis3g after reading on ubuntu support forum, it too didn't work. thank you anyway :)
[09:52] <hector> still upgrading, but I'm optimistic with samsung tools/backlight..
[09:54] <kepler> alku: not sure if this will help or not: http://goo.gl/7MMoY
[09:55] <drsource> exit
[09:55] <kepler> alku: maybe this too -- http://goo.gl/yQFkr
[09:55] <alku> kepler: thank you, will try.
[09:56] <kepler> good luck!
[09:56] <ayaskanti> libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch - what to do ?
[09:57] <Epyongun> Hey all I'm trying to get drivers on my laptop got the 700m series and every time I get them sorta working I get stuck at 640x res. Anyone have luck installing that series of drivers before
[09:58] <ayaskanti> cannot install libc devel package .. It says "libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch"
[09:58] <killer> how do  i install glib module python in ubuntu
[10:00] <Extreme> killer: try this: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[10:00] <LiquidEssence> Hello. I want to make a keyboard shrotcut in Xfce, that would launch a program inside a terminal. How can I do that? Normal shortcuts just launch standalone aplications.
[10:01] <dr_willis> LiquidEssence:  make it run somthing like 'xterm -e commandtorun'
[10:01] <killer> Extreme: thanx i will give it a try
[10:01] <dr_willis> LiquidEssence:  most terminal emulators have a simuuler option to the -e executething option
[10:02] <LiquidEssence> dr_willis: ok I'll try that. But if I would like to have a xce4-terminal that would have a title of the program in it (xfce4-terminal -T "VLC") and then run the application, would I need to write a script for that?
[10:02] <killer> Extreme: still the same error on module named glib
[10:03] <Extreme> LiquidEssence: add "gnome-terminal -e Your-Terminal-Command" as a Keyboard Shortcut
[10:03] <dr_willis> LiquidEssence:  just tack on all the options.. or make a script.. it would be easier to launch
[10:04] <Extreme> s/gnome-terminal/xfce-4terminal
[10:04] <LiquidEssence> dr_willis & Extreme: okay, thank you very much, I will try and see how it works. Thanks again!
[10:04] <tehfox> hi there, I installed exim4 on Ubuntu 12.10 and configured it to send mail to a smarthost (dc_eximconfig_configtype='satellite' -- I basically copied configuration from my working config in my previous Ubuntu 11.04 installation). However, whenever I try to send a mail, I get following warning (in console when sending using mail <emailaddress>, or when starting the MTA: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/thefox/keyring-Ft4Yfu/pkcs11: Per
[10:05] <tehfox> Why does it try to access the gnome-keyring and how can I disable it? I found this forum question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097530 but ignoring the warning isn't quite what I'm looking for.
[10:06] <LiquidEssence> the_willis: it worked, thans a lot - I wrote a script and just had to put all the options for the vlc program into brackets so that it ran in ncurses interface mode. thanks!
[10:07] <Tom____> hello @ all
[10:08] <jatakk> Does anyone here use openbox?
[10:08] <dr_willis> lots of people do jatakk
[10:09] <Tom____> can i install libusb.dev on ubuntu 12.10? i cannot find the package!
[10:09] <dr_willis> !find libusb
[10:09] <dr_willis> !info libusb-dev
[10:10] <jatakk> Alright, well what is a good panel to use with openbox?
[10:10] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[10:10] <dr_willis> !dock
[10:10] <jatakk> Not really what I was after
[10:11] <Tom____> ah ok thanks, so i will now install ubuntu on my system, i am back later bye
[10:11] <jobs> onlly ubuntu
[10:11] <jatakk> I was thinking more like pypanel type things
[10:11] <jatakk> But pypanel isn't developed anymore I don't think
[10:12] <lantizia> *What channel* do I use to talk about Unity (or rather 1 of likely a million problems with it)
[10:12] <Extreme> lantizia: this one?
[10:13] <jatakk> If it's just a rant about how horrible Unity is, then you might as well save it.
[10:13] <lantizia> OK well with GNOME it was sufficient to simply place a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications and it'd show up in the menu... I've tested the same on precise and quantal with Unity and Unity has no idea of my entry
[10:13] <dr_willis> apt-cache search panel     may show some alternatives to panel
[10:13] <lantizia> No - I have a specific question... read it rather than guessing what kind of person I am
[10:13] <dr_willis> lantizia:  that should also work with unity. It may be the menus havent gotten refreshed
[10:14] <jatakk> Yeah that should work with Unity, works for me anyway.
[10:14] <lantizia> dr_willis, is there a way to force a refresh... I've duplicated this problem on many different machines both 12.04 and 12.10
[10:14] <lantizia> Does it matter that I had to mkdir ~/.local/share/applications first
[10:14] <dr_willis> desktop files CAN contain an entry to only show in specific desktop enviroments.. like showonly in kde' or only in gnome
[10:14] <lantizia> Could perhaps Unity not be watching that folder as it didn't exist upon first log in?
[10:15] <dr_willis> theres quite a few cases ive seen where unity and gnome3 have to get restarteed to see changes take effect
[10:16] <lantizia> well even if I make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications - it still doesn't show up
[10:17] <lantizia> ah no - it has now... just a bit slow
[10:17] <lantizia> so I guess it's just not working with ~/.local/share/applications unless that directory existed upon first login for it to watch
[10:18] <jony> a recommended notes software for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:18] <dr_willis> wasent tomboy getting rewritten? then i recall evernote
[10:18] <dr_willis> may not be in the ppa
[10:19] <lantizia> dr_willis, rewritten without the mono to gnote wasn't it?
[10:20] <dr_willis> i havent really paid attention to it since it lost the ubuntu one support. ;)
[10:20] <dr_willis> I was aparently one of the few people that kept notes synced via ubuntu one
[10:20] <jony> dr_willis, you are real person or a bot? :)
[10:21] <dr_willis> Yes...., Yes i am....
[10:21] <jony> dr_willis, wich one? :P
[10:21] <skyer> jj
[10:22] <skyer> topic
[10:25] <avinash> hi
[10:27] <dr_willis> moo
[10:30] <ronillon> can someone help me step-by-step with creating bootable live usb stick with ubuntu on it?
[10:32] <dr_willis> download a tool from pendrivelinux site.. it can download the iso and put it on usb.
[10:32] <dr_willis> or download iso seperatly
[10:33] <cluke> [#debian] hey guys, anyone know of a lightweight way of zooming? I want to zoom in and out switching to different areas of my screen.
[10:33] <dr_willis> ubuntu site has a tool also.
[10:33] <ronillon> i used unetbootin, it seemed ok, but the flash does not boot. i know its alright, as i was able to boot slax from it an hour ago
[10:33] <dr_willis> cluke: compiz has that feature
[10:33] <cluke> im using lxde
[10:33] <hector> I just solved my backlight problem on samsung n150+ netbook with this link, may anyone ever need;   http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296
[10:34] <dr_willis> ive had ussues with unetbootin in the past.
[10:37] <Guest52903> :)
[10:37] <Tom____> who can i see if the package is correct installed on my system, i search for libusb-0.1?
[10:38] <dr_willis> correct for what?
[10:42] <dr_willis> ronillon:  most people use yumi
[10:43] <ronillon> dr_willis: i thought yumi is just for windows
[10:44] <dr_willis> look for linux tools then. i dont know what os yoi are using.
[10:45] <ronillon> im on ubuntu. and im trying to make an ubuntu usb flash. its much more dificult than doing it from windows, from what i can say
[10:45] <dr_willis> you can dd the iso file straight to usb with linux if you want
[10:45] <ronillon> can i? amazing
[10:45] <dr_willis> or use the startup-disk-creator tool
[10:45] <doctor> Hey)
[10:47] <ronillon> dr_willis: i was trying to find it, but couldnt in the unity thing. i guess main problem is having ubuntu in other language than english
[10:48] <ayaskanti> help, apt-get install libc6-dev is not working . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb  Size mismatch
[10:49] <deanrock0> ronilon: sudo usb-creator-gtk if you cant find it using unity
[10:50] <ayaskanti> bad package ............. Unpacking libc6-dev (from libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read on buffer copy for failed to write to pipe in copy
[10:52] <noxom> hi, how convert animated mng to animated gif??
[10:53] <dr_willis> noxom: try ffmpeg or mencoder perhaps
[10:54] <dr_willis> perhaps the gimp animation plugins also
[10:54] <noxom> thanks, i will try now
[11:00] <antub> sorry, how could I mount a exFAT on 12.04 (Gparted is looking for a filesystem but seems...)
[11:01] <antub> system seem no exfat suppot
[11:05] <grizlo42> I am struggling with my boot in ubuntu. the `udevadm control --exit` that occurs during initramfs take forever
[11:06] <theprogrammer> does anyone have idea where is the keybinding config file for a user in ubuntu 12.10
[11:06] <grizlo42> this has been an issue for many months, but i finally got the time / dissatisfaction to deal with it
[11:26] <haythem> join #squid
[11:26] <mojtaba> Hi, I have an external hard drive and when I want to navigate through it, it is not responding.
[11:27] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I check if the disk is ok?
[11:27] <mojtaba> Or how can I fix it, if there is any error.
[11:27] <raddy_> hello Everybody
[11:27] <ikonia> mojtaba: what file system is on the dis k?
[11:27] <raddy_> I am unable to burn ubuntu iso.
[11:27] <mojtaba> ikonia: It is ext3
[11:27] <ikonia> mojtaba: apart fom the external disk - how many other disks do you have on the system ?
[11:28] <raddy_> the burning software says that space is not enough in the cd.
[11:28] <ikonia> raddy_: are you burning to a CD or DVD ?
[11:28] <mojtaba> ikonia: just my internal hard disk
[11:28] <helmut_> hi
[11:28] <raddy_> the cd is 750 mb capacity
[11:28] <ikonia> mojtaba: ok, could you please connect the external disk and pastebin the output of the command "sudo fdisk -l "
[11:28] <ikonia> raddy_: it doesn't fit on a CD any more
[11:29] <mojtaba> ikonia: yes, please wait
[11:29] <raddy_> ikonia : i downloaded cd iso only
[11:29] <ikonia> mojtaba: no problem
[11:29] <ikonia> raddy_: there is no CD iso
[11:29] <raddy_> ikonia : :((
[11:29] <ikonia> raddy_: looking at the iso size of 12.04.2 of 693 meg it should fit
[11:30] <ikonia> but also ubuntu announced it was stopping using CD's
[11:31] <ikonia> raddy_: what version are you using ?
[11:31] <mojtaba> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590135/
[11:31] <ikonia> mojtaba: thank you
[11:31] <raddy_> ikonia : it is not 693 mb here. look for 64bit. 12.10
[11:31] <ikonia> raddy_: then its' 753mb
[11:31] <ikonia> raddy_: which is why it doesn't fit on a cd that is 750mb
[11:32] <ikonia> mojtaba: ok - so I see one 500 GB disk, one SDC card and one external 1GB disk, correct ?
[11:32] <mojtaba> ikonia: It is 1 TB
[11:32] <ikonia> sorry, 1TB
[11:32] <ikonia> not GB
[11:32] <mojtaba> ikonia: yes
[11:33] <ikonia> mojtaba: ok - so can you try to mount /dev/sdb1 please.
[11:33] <raddy_> ikonia : so, i should burn it in dvd ?
[11:33] <SAngeli> I need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu. if I install postfix, to which of the listing woudl apply? SMTP or sendmail?
[11:33] <mojtaba> ikonia: I have mounted it and can access it via /media/mojtaba/freedom
[11:34] <mojtaba> ikonia: It mounted automatically, but when I run ls, it just hangs.
[11:34] <mojtaba> I mean did not respond.
[11:36] <mojtaba> ikonia: Is there any utility to check if the hard drive is ok or not?
[11:36] <ikonia> mojtaba: when it automounts can you a.) check it's status with mount before doing anything to it, b.) try to manipulate it  (say unmount it) before doing anything
[11:36] <ikonia> mojtaba: it sounds like it's the auto mounter, nothing to do with the hard disk
[11:36] <ikonia> mojtaba: you can unmount it and run fsck /dev/sdb1 against it
[11:36] <mojtaba> ikonia: could you please let me how can I do that? I am pretty new to linux. :-P
[11:36] <ikonia> (sudo)
[11:36] <raddy_> ikonia : is it really a dvd iso?
[11:36] <ikonia> raddy_: your CD is 750mb.....the image is 753mb.,...
[11:37] <mojtaba> ikonia: should I run umount /dev/sdb1 ?
[11:37] <ikonia> mojtaba: %100
[11:37] <ikonia> mojtaba: never fsck a mounted disk
[11:38] <ikonia> mojtaba: umount /your /file/system
[11:38] <SAngeli> php, sendmail, SMTP. To wich one would postfix comply?
[11:38] <ikonia> SAngeli: what ?
[11:39] <SAngeli> ikonia, I need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu. if I install postfix, to which of the listing woudl apply? SMTP or sendmail?
[11:39] <mojtaba> ikonia: should I run fsck with sudo priviledge?
[11:39] <ikonia> SAngeli: postfix is an MTA (so from your point of view, it's an SMTP)
[11:39] <ikonia> mojtaba: yes
[11:39] <raddy_> ikonia : the image actually 763 mb, is it burnable in dvd ?
[11:39] <SAngeli> ikonia, I have to install a MTA but if I have only these three choices from Joomla Admin what do I have to do?
[11:39] <ikonia> raddy_: yes
[11:40] <ikonia> SAngeli: postfix is a standard mta on ubuntu
[11:40] <mojtaba> ikonia: the output is: fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[11:40] <mojtaba> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[11:40] <mojtaba> freedom contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[11:40] <mojtaba> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[11:40] <ikonia> mojtaba: let it run
[11:40] <SAngeli> ikonia, I know this. let me ask to joomla channel.
[11:40] <mojtaba> ikonia: will it fix the hard drive automatically? or should I do something after that?
[11:41] <ikonia> mojtaba: it should try to resolve any file system problems
[11:41] <ikonia> mojtaba: it may prompt you for a "y/n" response on occasion
[11:42] <mojtaba> ikonia: will I miss any file?
[11:42] <gp5st> sorry, i know this isn't ubuntu specific, but I wasn't sure where else to ask. Is there a way to provide more than a single certificate chain during SSL negotiation?
[11:42] <ikonia> SAngeli: I don't understand what you are asking
[11:42] <ikonia> SAngeli: postfix is an MTA - so from your question it is an SMTP interface
[11:42] <SAngeli> ikonia, one sec I will explain better
[11:42] <ikonia> mojtaba: don't know yet
[11:42] <ikonia> gp5st: depends what application you are using, try #openssl
[11:42] <mojtaba> ikonia: Do you know how long does it take time?
[11:43] <ikonia> mojtaba: 1TB file system - good few minutes, 10 - 15 - 20 minutes, hard to tell
[11:43] <gp5st> i'll give it a shot ikonia, thanks
[11:43] <ikonia> mojtaba: depends on the problem, size of the disk, speed of the disk etc
[11:43] <mojtaba> ikonia: I really thank you for your help.
[11:43] <ikonia> mojtaba: it's fine, that's what we are here for
[11:43] <ikonia> I need to step out for a short while
[11:48] <SAngeli> ikonia, I need to understand a concept with regards to mail in my ubuntu server. From CMS Joomla, as an example, I can setup the server to use eithr php, sendmail or SMTP. I know that postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu but I do not know if I can use it or not. Here is a screenshot of what I talk about: http://i.imgur.com/l7pqG2X.png
[11:50] <SAngeli> ikonia, I need to understand if eventually I would choose postfix (wich i wish to) if I will be unable later on to run my CMS applications. The system would need to be configured as smart host as my server is at home and this is only for testin and learning
[11:50] <SAngeli> ikonia, not for smap or similar usage as I will be using my own ISP provider for the SMTP validation
[11:51] <mojtaba> ikonia: I got this: Error reading block 22216707 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>?
[11:52] <mojtaba> what should I do?
[11:53] <mojtaba> ikonia: Please help
[11:56] <dr_willis> you got disk errors..
[11:57] <mojtaba> dr_willis:
[11:57] <mojtaba> yes
[11:57] <dr_willis> Hope theres nothing critical wrong. hit Y and go on..
[11:57] <mojtaba> dr_willis: Thanks.
[11:57] <mojtaba> dr_willis: will I miss something?
[11:57] <dr_willis> really you can only go on.. or stop.. :) then you are back at square one.
[11:58] <dr_willis> its fscking the disk and corecting errors..
[11:58] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I see.
[11:59] <mojtaba> dr_willis: then there is no way to find out what will happen, till it ends.
[11:59] <dr_willis> not that i know of.
[11:59] <dr_willis> any lost/found files will go into /lost+found
[11:59] <mojtaba> dr_willis: in that drive?
[11:59] <dr_willis> whatever fs you are checking
[12:00] <mojtaba> dr_willis: thanks
[12:01] <SAngeli> ikonia, did I properly explain now my issue?
[12:01] <keithjasper> hi all… not so much a ubuntu question, but I have multiple DNS servers that I would like to get stats for using BIND, however I wish to join the data so there is ONE graph (i.e. a total DNS queries across my network)
[12:06] <aiFrantz> *testing the irc client* hi ~~
[12:12] <JuJuBee> I have a dual monitor setup and when I move a window to my secondary monitor and drag the titlebar to the top of the screen to go to full screen, it jumps back to my primary monitor in full screen.
[12:16] <dr_willis> whatt video chipset?
[12:16] <dr_willis> tried just double clicking the titlebar?
[12:16] <MorphixNW> hello everyone
[12:17] <MorphixNW> I am trying to shrink/re-scale the visible display area of my desktop.... so I end up with a smaller display area and a black border around all four sides of the screen
[12:17] <MorphixNW> I am runing Zorin 5.2
[12:18] <Sparky-UK> does anyone know why (my) snmpd does not increment result for NIC's (particularly eth0) on ubuntu 12.04, counters update if i restart the service
[12:18] <dr_willis> best to check in the Zorin support Channels MorphixNW
[12:19] <MorphixNW> can you direct me too one please dr_willis
[12:19] <dr_willis> !alis
[12:19] <dr_willis> or check the zorin homepage
[12:19] <MorphixNW> !alis
[12:21] <cfhowlett> MorphixNW, greetings
[12:24] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: double clicking the title bar on the primary will not make it full screen on secondary.  Video Card is nvidia 9800
[12:24] <dr_willis> JuJuBee:  drag it to the secondary and double click
[12:24] <dr_willis> using twinview on my nividia card here. and thats how i do it
[12:24] <JuJuBee> Yes, that does work, but it works as expected with kde just not unity.
[12:25] <dr_willis> i just drug a window to the top of my 2nd monitor and compiuz  filled the whole screen  for me
[12:25] <dr_willis> 12.10 here.
[12:26] <DikkieB> hello everyone I have a question. I recently got a cheap Toshiba satellite laptop. I turned Secure boot off, but when I put in a USB with Lubuntu and a DVD of it in at seperate times, instead of showing the usual Lubuntu menu, it went to the GRUB loader of it. When I selected "try ubuntu" the screen went black, and nothing happened. I probably waiting about 20 to 30 minutes each time. On one occasion I selected "check disc for defects" and it did the
[12:26] <DikkieB>  exact same thing. Is there anyway to fix this, or will I have to install Lubuntu from windows?
[12:26] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: that does not work here... Wait... if the original window is smaller than the resolution of the secondary, it does work, but if it is larger, it goes full screen on primary
[12:27] <ivotkl> DikkieB, you should try nomodeset or failsafe graphics mode.
[12:27] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: primary is 1920x1280 and secondary is 1280x1024
[12:27] <dr_willis> ive noticed it seems to depens on  what % of the window is on each monitor
[12:27] <ivotkl> BRB
[12:27] <dr_willis> if most of it is on monitor 1 - it goes to monitor 1
[12:27] <DikkieB> ivotkl: alright, I'll see if i can't find those settings
[12:28] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: that seems to be the case here.  Too bad, works great with kde no matter which monitor I drag it to.
[12:28] <dr_willis> i never really have an issue with it.. never really pay much attention to it. ;)
[12:28] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: do you know how to have 2 different launcher bars in unity or if it is possible and even 2 different desktop backgrounds...
[12:28] <dr_willis> i dont use kde either.
[12:28] <dr_willis> use a big WIDE wallpaper stitched from 2 smaller ones. ;P
[12:29] <dr_willis> you dont have 2 differnt launchers.  if you want that you could use some docks i guess
[12:29] <DikkieB> ivotkl: Also Im really not surprised, my laptop has an ATI card...
[12:29] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: I am having issues with kde  lately with crash notifications since upgrade to 12.10
[12:29] <ivotkl> DikkieB: If boot menu is the same as in Ubuntu, you should be able to press F6 and the command line with the booting sequence would appear.
[12:29] <ivotkl> DikkieB, at the end you should type nomodeset
[12:29] <ivotkl> and then enter if that's the one you need to press for executing the command.
[12:30] <MiltonWayne> hey
[12:30] <DikkieB> ivotkl: Thankyou! I wasn't quite sure since it went to GRUB instead... let me go do that
[12:30] <MiltonWayne> can someone explain why i cant install an 64bit system from 32bit livecd?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> MiltonWayne,  no 64 bit livecd?   no 64 bit install
[12:31] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: also, when using kde, if I lock my screen at night when I go home, the next day when I come back and log in, the login box image stays on my screen even though I am logged in and working fine.  seems  like a ghost image and cannot click anything on it.
[12:31] <MiltonWayne> cfhowlett, yeah but why
[12:32] <cfhowlett> MiltonWayne, um, because you don't have the correct ISO!  If you want 64 bit, GET 64 bit!
[12:34] <Squarepy> easy cfhowlett
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Squarepy, meant to give the link to 64, so that came out more snippy than intended.  apologies to miltonwayne and everyone ...
[12:35] <t0th_-> hi
[12:35] <cfhowlett> t0h, greetings
[12:35] <shutter_> hi
[12:36] <t0th_-> when start my gdm, is stop in the first screen of X , can help me?
[12:36] <DikkieB> ivotkl: Im sorry, I read you wrong. No, it doesn't boot to any menu similar to ubuntu, it just goes to grub and has the typical install options for ubuntu with no extra settings other than e to edit (which im guessing I'll have to do somehow) and c for command line, and nomodeset isn't a command grub recognizes.
[12:36] <shutter_> welcome to ubuntu
[12:39] <dr_willis> t0th_-:  clarify what you mean
[12:40] <dr_willis> nomodeset is NOT a command.. its an option you add to the kernel line. After you hit 'e' to edit
[12:40] <dr_willis> e)dit ->  change the line to look like  'quiet nomodeset splash'
[12:40] <ivotkl> DikkieB: Do you have system installed already? If so, press e, then on line that says --quietsplash type nomodeset.
[12:40] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:41] <ivotkl> That's it. Thanks dr_willis for the reminder. =)
[12:41] <Ice_Strike> I am new to Ubunto and where is the taskbar to switch windows?
[12:41] <Ice_Strike> So confusing
[12:41] <Ice_Strike> Ubuntu*
[12:41] <ivotkl> Ice_Strike, it should be on the bottom...
[12:41] <DikkieB> dr_willis: ivotkl: Ah, sorry about that... also no its not already installed. Let me try that now
[12:42] <Ice_Strike> I am sure I have seen old Ubunto that taskbar appear at the bottom like on Windows.
[12:42] <IzzoDizzo> Ice_Strike, try super+w
[12:42] <IzzoDizzo> (windows keys)
[12:45] <JuJuBee> Ice_Strike: Uniity does not have a task bar like windows.
[12:45] <autoditac> hi, since upgrading to 13.04 (i know, it's in development), the layer2 status of the nic in my Thinkpad T500 (driver: e1000) doesn't get detected anymore and i can't setup any ethernet connection. ethtool states "unknown device" when i query eth0
[12:45] <ivotkl> Ohhhhhhhhh, he's using unity...
[12:45] <JuJuBee> ivotkl: I am assuming since he seems to be just starting out
[12:45] <autoditac> the docking station works, though and both the card and the switch show that link layer is uo
[12:45] <ivotkl> I have classic gnome installed, forgot about it. My mystake.
[12:45] <Ice_Strike> JuJuBee So I guess Ubunu have changed since then? So how do you access multiple windows
[12:45] <autoditac> s/uo/up
[12:46] <ivotkl> JuJuBee: You're right.
[12:46] <cfhowlett> autoditac, ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:46] <autoditac> cfhowlett, thanks
[12:46] <JuJuBee> Ice_Strike: what do you mean access multiple windows?  Alt-Tab is an application switcher or {windowskey}+W will tile your apps so you can switch
[12:47] <Ice_Strike> JuJuBee I meant I want to see all running application like on the taskbar without pressing Alt-Tab
[12:48] <ivotkl> Ice_Strike: you should see them on Unity bar on the bottom of it.
[12:48] <JuJuBee> Ice_Strike: the launcher bar shows which apps are open with a little triangle next to it.  Also, http://askubuntu.com/questions/77216/how-to-have-the-taskbar-with-unity-at-the-same-time
[12:49] <Ice_Strike> Ok thanks
[12:49] <JuJuBee> Ice_Strike:  if you wanted the windows like task bar, you could install kubuntun-desktop and use kde. It still has that feature.
[12:49] <Ice_Strike> ok cool
[12:49] <ivotkl> or gnome classic.
[12:49] <IzzoDizzo> or use a dock
[12:49] <Ice_Strike> what most people use
[12:49] <ivotkl> dock?
[12:49] <rjx1> what is this appication/ocete-stream
[12:50] <IzzoDizzo> yeah, like docky
[12:50] <ivotkl> rjx1: I've never heard of it, sorry.
[12:50] <JuJuBee> Ice_Strike: most people use what they prefer.  Try all options and use what you like.
[12:50] <JuJuBee> docky unity
[12:50] <JuJuBee> ?what is it..
[12:50] <selena2013> whats up
[12:50] <ivotkl> Ohhhhhhhhhhh.
[12:51] <selena2013> yea you can use avant , cairo  , there dozens of docks
[12:51] <Ice_Strike> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37722/hard-to-find-one-window-among-many
[12:51] <Ice_Strike> good question
[12:52] <rjx1> am installing in software in tarball in using root they not creat a shortcut
[12:52] <Ice_Strike> Unity made hard to multi-task
[12:52] <IzzoDizzo> you just have to get used to it
[12:53] <rjx1> yes i have
[12:53] <selena2013> why is hard to multi task in unity ice strike ? is easy
[12:54] <N1ck1> hi
[12:55] <dan_lb> hey
[12:57] <N1ck1> I have a linux file sharing server, running samba. So i want to know if the system saves the deleted files somewhere, like Trash (remember if i delet the file from windows it will not send it to Trash ? any suggestion on how to get back the accidentaly deleted file ?
[12:57] <iceroot> N1ck1: with your backup
[12:57] <r3d> lol
[12:57] <iceroot> N1ck1: samba is not using a trash
[12:58] <r3d> backup
[12:58] <r3d> It's gone.
[12:58] <N1ck1> there is no way to get the file back ?
[12:58] <iceroot> N1ck1: with your backup as i said
[12:58] <iceroot> N1ck1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64296/how-do-i-enable-trash-functionality-on-samba-shares
[12:58] <r3d> The only way to retrieve would be to analyse the file system which hosted the file
[12:58] <iceroot> N1ck1: for the future you can enable a trash on samba
[12:58] <cfhowlett> N1ck1, ask in #ubuntu-server ...
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !recovery|n1ck1
[12:59] <iceroot> !backup | N1ck1
[12:59] <cfhowlett> N1ck1, oops.  sorry.  thought that factoid might help but no ...
[13:00] <r3d> lol - there are many ways to fix your car following you crashing it, but there are no ways to UNcrash your car
[13:01] <iceroot> r3d: of course there are ways to recover lost files, backup, enabled trash, snapshots
[13:01] <iceroot> r3d: but they have to be enabled before you delete them
[13:01] <r3d> I'm sorry, I don't mean to be an ass - but no, if you haven't enabled some kind of back-up for deleted files via SMB it's gone - or you can analyse the filesystem and see if there's anything to recover
[13:01] <iceroot> r3d: things we already said
[13:01] <r3d> iceroot -> agreeing.
[13:03] <r3d> Also, no-one enables any kind of backup on SMB because deletion then means copying the file elsewhere, so if you delete 12GB of stuff, you have to COPY 12GB of stuff for it to "delete"
[13:04] <Ahri921> test
[13:04] <setra> tested --- ok
[13:04] <iceroot> r3d: you have to use a normal backup-solution, doesnt matter if samba, apache, nfs, mysql or something else will use the data
[13:05] <Ahri921> sentra: thanks
[13:05] <setra> I'm looking for a Server side terminal automation tool, which send keystrokes from bash script to called application.
[13:06] <setra> I tried already xdotool, but it needes a Desktop session, but on the server I don't have one
[13:06] <bubulle> popolala
[13:13] <Anoniman86> I need help with Ati Radeon 5670 card on Ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <r3d> Anoniman86: How old is a Radeon 5670?
[13:16] <r3d> Like > 5 years?
[13:16] <r3d> (I'm asking, not saying)
[13:16] <Anoniman86> HD 5670, i bought two years ago
[13:17] <r3d> Okay, so it's pretty new - that's a good start. What's the problem?
[13:17] <mJayk> t
[13:18] <Anoniman86> I have big lag issues in steam games with 13.1 and the 13.2 beta drivers. When i restart system, games works fine, a but when i exit the game and launch again, fps is low
[13:19] <iceroot> Anoniman86: "beta"
[13:19] <iceroot> Anoniman86: or are the 13.1 the stable ones?
[13:19] <r3d> That's a steam issue
[13:19] <r3d> Or a driver issue, okay
[13:19] <Anoniman86> yes, i uses 13.1, same issue
[13:19] <Anoniman86> :(((
[13:19] <r3d> But either way - it's out of your hands
[13:20] <Anoniman86> used*
[13:20] <iceroot> Anoniman86: did you check the system-load after you closed steam?
[13:20] <iceroot> Anoniman86: is it higher then without starting steam first?
[13:20] <r3d> Try a different display manager if you're feeling brave
[13:20] <iceroot> r3d: that is not useful
[13:20] <Anoniman86> yes, is the same after reboot
[13:20] <r3d> I think it is helpful.
[13:21] <iceroot> Anoniman86: to the first run of steam is always fine
[13:21] <Anoniman86> yes, yes!!!!
[13:21] <r3d> I'm not saying try a different driver, I'm saying try Unity 2D and see if the problem still occurs, or install gnome-shell and see if the problem still occurs
[13:22] <Anoniman86> same problem is on 12.04 lts and 12.10
[13:22] <r3d> It's somewhere in the display driver stack, using a different display manager might help to identify it. Or not.
[13:23] <Anoniman86> I think that Nvidia is better for linux
[13:23] <r3d> Nvidia works a lot better than ATI/AMD on Linux in my experience - so I go with Nvidia cards.
[13:24] <mJayk> test
[13:24] <r3d> But saying that, I run LMDE with a  liquorix kernel and I get my drivers through smxi
[13:25] <Anoniman86> Yes, but it is very hard to install the latest nvidia driver whois downloaded from nvidia site manualy
[13:30] <r3d> If any of you have only used Ubuntu and are wondering about LMDE and smxi - the quick explanation is that Debian is the distro that Ubuntu uses as a base, and LMDE is just an offshoot of Debian with some different tweaks. And as that doesn't keep compatibility with Ubuntu, you tend to use a lovely suite of scripts to install drivers called smxi.
[13:30] <r3d> Linux knowledgable folk: I'd be happy for corrections here if you're not convinced by the phrasing.
[13:32] <ivotkl> Quick question... Is it stable for me to install Ubuntu Studio's audio programs into an Ubuntu?
[13:32] <r3d> y
[13:32] <ivotkl> Quick question... Is it stable for me to install Ubuntu Studio's audio programs into an Ubuntu?
[13:32] <ivotkl> Sorry, double typying. =P
[13:33] <r3d> No worries - yes, they are entirely compatible.
[13:34] <Pici> ivotkl: You might have some weirdness with jack, but the folks in #ubuntustudio should be able to help you out with that if you do see issues.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> ivotkl, stable?  won't break anything if that's what youmean ...
[13:36] <r3d> ivotkl: Were you planning on changing your primary audio driver away from pulseaudio?
[13:40] <root___> quit
[13:48] <N1ck1> iceroot is it possible to disable the delete function on samba, so the users cannot delete them ?
[13:48] <unborn> hi all.. does anyone have problems same as me with virtualbox on 12.04 lts 64bit or I am doing something wrong?
[13:49] <ivotkl> Pici, cfhowlett and r3d: Thank you for your responses. =)
[13:49] <ivotkl> r3d: not really, but if that's what it takes... I'm in. =P
[13:49] <cfhowlett> ivotkl, best of luck.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> unborn, details?   VB runs fine for me on 64 bit ...
[13:50] <unborn> cfhowlett, Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-25-generic (x86_64)
[13:50] <unborn> Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.12/build/make.log for more information.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:51] <unborn> cfhowlett, dkms...it just generate report to ubuntu error msg and thats all (durring the installation)
[13:52] <cfhowlett> unborn, I'm guessing your attempting to get the guest additions up and running?  what error mssg?
[13:53] <unborn> cfhowlett, uhm nope.. ive install virtualbox on fresh reinstall heh with iso additions on.. the error msg ive passed earlier to you..
[13:54] <unborn> when i run virtualbox it gives me this
[13:54] <unborn> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) cfhowlett
[13:54] <ktos> Hello
[13:55] <ktos> tell me please is it possible to have one server machine and connect other machines over ethernet to get the same image on the all screens?
[13:55] <ktos> using x.org
[13:56] <cfhowlett> unborn, OK ... never had to problem solve this issue with VB so my experience is limited but ... I'd suggest you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade  so you'll have all the latest packages.  You ARE at 12.4.2, right?  Then re-install VB.
[13:57] <AbhiK> does anyone know where can i find the image-file of cube-desktop top and bottom parts?
[13:57] <mJayk> 123123123/win 4
[13:58] <unborn> cfhowlett, dist-update will keep lts on desktop right? it will update only sw packages right?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> unborn, yes.  LTS will remain in place (distro-release would bring it to 12.10)
[13:59] <unborn> ok.. so lets do it than :)
[14:00] <unborn> god have to reboot.. be right back
[14:00] <mJayk> rgr dgr
[14:03] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Can someone help me with a flash plugin problem?
[14:04] <moondoggy> Hi, nuclearbob , are you a physicist?
[14:04] <iceroot> N1ck1: read-only
[14:04] <iceroot> N1ck1: but that means you can not edit the file too
[14:05] <iceroot> ubottu: you are talking about apt-get dist-upgrade?
[14:05] <nuclearbob> moondoggy: I have a physics degree, but I don't feel like that makes me a physicist since I don't do a lot of physics at this point.  I'd call myself a programmer, unless I get eaten by a bear.  If I get eaten by a bear, I'll be a hiker, because no news report  is ever going to say "a programmer was eaten by a bear in the woods yesterday"
[14:05] <moondoggy> I like the way you think, nuclearbob .
[14:06] <unborn> cfhowlett, well done.. not solution for me and what is very bad touchpad is not working anymore.. bah
[14:06] <moondoggy> Since no one else has taken my support ticket :) do you have any thoughts about getting flashplayer working on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, nuclearbob ?
[14:07] <nuclearbob> moondoggy: flashplayer is working on my installs of 12.04 64 bit, but I don't know that that helps you a lot, unfortunately.  What packages did you install for it?
[14:07] <moondoggy> It worked fine, but then I changed from a Lenovo machine to a Mac (both with 64 bit 12.04) and now I can't get flash working.
[14:07] <[Saint]> Working here, too.
[14:07] <[Saint]> I suspect "installing it" probably helps.
[14:07] <[Saint]> ;)
[14:08] <decci>  I need to compare hadoop with HDFS and Hadoop with Lustre setup. I have 1 MDS , 2 OSS/OST and 1 Lustre Client as of now. I deployed hadoop over lustre. Now to compare it with Hadoop and HDFS equally, how many datanodes and namenode do I need?
[14:08] <unborn> cfhowlett, nevermind :) im plugging in debian dvd so no more issues i guess :) thank you very much for your help.
[14:08] <unborn> cya
[14:08] <moondoggy> Hmm.  Well, I got the message "you need additional plugins...", so I tried to install the flash plugin from the adobe page.
[14:08] <moondoggy> Doesn't work.
[14:08] <moondoggy> Here's where I am:  http://i.imgur.com/msS0JTO.png
[14:09] <iceroot> !details | moondoggy
[14:09] <iceroot> moondoggy: that is the wrong way
[14:09] <napnap> Hi all, I try to use grub2tc (https://github.com/attila-lendvai/grub2tc/blob/master/README.md) to boot my truecrypted win partition from grub2. But when I launch it with grub item menu I take an error "couldn't open file".  My grub entry is : "insmod multiboot  multiboot /boot/tcloader" and I have tcloader in my /boot partition. What is wrong ?
[14:10] <iceroot> moondoggy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:10] <iceroot> moondoggy: please only install software from the repos and not from websites
[14:10] <moondoggy> Oh.  I didn't try it with apt-get.
[14:10] <moondoggy> Yeah, I hate Adobe anyway.
[14:10] <[Saint]> apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:11] <AbhiK> does anyone know where can i find the image-file of cube-desktop top and bottom parts?
[14:12] <moondoggy> Thanks, iceroot  [Saint] !
[14:12] <moondoggy> That was easy!
[14:13]  * [Saint] just uses Chrome.
[14:13] <[Saint]> FLash plugins can go g*ck themselves. :)
[14:13] <[Saint]> errrr, the other, similar, non-typo'd four letter word.
[14:14] <ikonia> [Saint]: then don't use the word if you have to star it out please.
[14:14] <ikonia> [Saint]: we all know what it means
[14:15] <[Saint]> That makes so little sense it's hard to accept it as serious.
[14:15] <[Saint]> I know what you mean, but, it is largely nonsensical.
[14:15] <[Saint]> ...anyhoo.
[14:19] <nick___> hi I install elementary OS in my computer with windows 8...I can't see it when I boot my comp
[14:19] <nick___> I tried rebuilding grub.cfg
[14:19] <gp5st> exit
[14:19] <nick___> didn't work
[14:20] <iceroot> N1ck1: and what is "elementary os"?
[14:20] <iceroot> nick___: ^
[14:21] <nick___> Elemntary os is based on ubuntu 12,04
[14:21] <nick___> I'm surprised you guys don't know about it
[14:21] <auronandace> nick___: its not supported here
[14:22] <iceroot> nick___: its offtopic here, please use there channel
[14:22] <nick___> okay. thanks
[14:22] <ymf> hey.
[14:22] <ymf> i wonder how can i tweak the kernel in ubuntu.
[14:22] <auronandace> ymf: why do you need to?
[14:23] <fhloves> »¹ÓÐÈË¶àµãµÄÆµµÀÂð?
[14:24] <ymf> auronandace: because when i was trying to run sshuttle, something occured to me: iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[14:24] <memand> fhloves: ?
[14:24] <JodaZ> so it sounds like ubuntu lts give one longer support than the average debian release now, is that true ?
[14:25] <ymf> auronandace: "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.0-26-generic/modulles.dep: No such file or directory"
[14:25] <auronandace> JodaZ: one longer?
[14:25] <auronandace> ymf: it should be modules
[14:25] <iceroot> JodaZ: ubuntu lts is supported for 5 years, debian 2-3 years
[14:25] <auronandace> ymf: notice the one l
[14:26] <memand> auronandace: I think JodaZ meant one as in individuals
[14:26] <memand> :)
[14:26] <ymf> auronandace: yeah..i mean how can i add the module?
[14:26] <auronandace> !modules | ymf
[14:27] <ymf> auronandace: in ubuntu, kernels are already built and shipped in binary version, aren't they?
[14:27] <auronandace> ymf: of course
[14:27] <memand> fhloves: Can we help you?
[14:28] <ymf> auronandace: what is the "/msg ubottu kernel"?
[14:28] <memand> Guess not
[14:28] <auronandace> !kernel | ymf
[14:29] <ymf> auronandace: i'm new here. "!xxx | ymf" what's that?
[14:29] <auronandace> !bot | ymf
[14:30] <ymf> auronandace: oh. got it.
[14:30] <Parthi> hi folks!
[14:30] <Parthi> i'm new to Ubuntu
[14:30] <memand> Parthi: Hi
[14:30] <ymf> auronandace: thanks :)
[14:30] <auronandace> ymf: no worries
[14:30] <Parthi> I'm somehow interested in installing it on my windows 8 system
[14:31] <Parthi> is there any issue in doing so?
[14:31] <auronandace> !uefi | Parthi
[14:31] <memand> Parthi: Do you wan't it with dual boot?
[14:31] <memand> *want
[14:31] <Parthi> yes
[14:31] <decci> Any service provider which provides KVM so that I can remotely mount ISO and installOS of my chioce
[14:31] <Parthi> but on ubuntu site i see something called install alongside windows
[14:32] <limbernie> !ubuntu
[14:32] <Parthi> memand: not getting a right direction
[14:32] <memand> Parthi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088425
[14:32] <b0ot> why would sudo find ./* -iname autoSwitch not show any results, when I can do an ls in my current directory and see autoSwitch.sh and autoSwitch2.sh?
[14:33] <mJayk> b0ot: sudo find au* ?
[14:34] <Parthi> memand: Can i install ubuntu from the windows installer which ubuntu site is offering? Is there any risk in it? I mean without the dual boot, installing alongside windows 8
[14:34] <ikonia> b0ot: find /
[14:34] <jrib> b0ot: because "autoSwitch" would not match "autoSwitch.sh"
[14:34] <ikonia> b0ot: not find ./*
[14:34] <ikonia> b0ot: find . for cwd, find / for root
[14:35] <kenlik> hi! i'm testing 12.10 Secure-Remix using USB Live but the network wired doesn't work. I appears with UNCLAIMED status. If i decided to install instead of trying ubuntu this problem will remain?
[14:35] <ikonia> secure remix ???
[14:35] <ikonia> is that even an official ubuntu release ?
[14:35] <auronandace> kenlik: we don't support remixes here
[14:36] <mJayk> t
[14:36] <b0ot> it doesn't allow me to do au* with sudo find . -iname au*
[14:36] <ymf> auronandace: well. there's not a package called nat-source..
[14:36] <eni> my pc froze and i couldn't do anything im using xubuntu 12.04 64bit on thinkpad t430s and xfce as a desktop manager. where can i find some logs that might tell me what happened?
[14:36] <ikonia> b0ot: what do you want to look for
[14:36] <ikonia> b0ot: just explain what you want to do
[14:37] <kenlik> ikonia, it was suggest to download in official ubuntu home page as my notebook has windows 8 installed with UEFI enabled.
[14:37] <b0ot> I'm just trying to understand find a bit better.... how do I search for something in my current directory and below for a case insensitive match of anything starting with autoswitch
[14:37] <ikonia> kenlik: where was it suggested ?
[14:38] <ikonia> b0ot: something like "find . -iname '*autoswitch* -print
[14:39] <kenlik> ikonia,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI please see step 1
[14:39] <Juanito_Fulencia> howdy
[14:39] <kenlik> ikonia, "Ubuntu-Secure-Remix 64bit or ..."
[14:39] <ikonia> kenlik: that's still not an official spin
[14:40] <ikonia> kenlik: basically there is no real solid solution at the moment for secure boot from what I read
[14:40] <ikonia> so everyone is trying to work a way through it
[14:40] <Juanito_Fulencia> I added a modeline to get my second monitor supported, and it worked. But the image is just a little to wide so it goes outside the monitor to the left. How do i i solve this?
[14:42] <kenlik> ikonia, so what you suggest to do so?
[14:42] <b0ot> I guess I'm confused why: "sudo find . -iname au* -print" is invalid and i get find: paths must precede expression autoSwitch.sh but "sudo find . -iname autositch* -print" works fine
[14:42] <samjack> I think is a bug in ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.jigdo
[14:42] <samjack> jigdo-lite not found 42 files
[14:43] <ikonia> kenlik: I don't have a solid suggestion for secure boot at this time
[14:43] <b0ot> second one had autoswitch spelled correctly
[14:43] <samjack>  eg: /pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-declarative_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb
[14:43] <samjack> is not in the pool
[14:44] <samjack> i dont know how to report that bug
[14:44] <rndbit> uh uh i want to build wine on 12.10 but according to googling i need ia32-libs-dev which seems to be missing. (error X 32-bit development files not found.). anyone know what i need to build wine?
[14:45] <b0ot> b0ot, here is what I mean: paste2.org/3058855 why does the more specific search work find, but the less specific search fail?
[14:46] <b0ot> http://paste2.org/3058855 (added http)
[14:46] <b0ot> all sorts of fail today: http://paste2.org/p/3058855
[14:46] <b0ot> forgot /p/
[14:48] <Absolute0> .xprofile isn't sourced when I log into awesome wm through lightdm.
[14:48] <samjack> any ideas how to file that bug?
[14:48] <Absolute0> I tried linking to it from ~/.xsession--no help
[14:50] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, I'm constantly having issues with my touchpad (the hardware itself is fine because it works without any problems in Windows)
[14:50] <hrolf> but when I use Ubuntu, after a while
[14:50] <hrolf> it keeps stucking
[14:50] <Absolute0> hrolf: try installing the synaptics drivers
[14:50] <decci> Hi Guys, I am in search of service provider which can provide me with remote KVM so that I can install Parallels Cloud Server remotely
[14:51] <hrolf> Absolute0: from where and how?
[14:51] <Absolute0> hrolf: ligthdm doesn't run ~/.xprofile or ~/.xsession when loading from the awesome.desktop session
[14:51] <Absolute0> s/run/source
[14:52] <hrolf> Absolute0: what?
[14:52] <Absolute0> oh nevermind
[14:53] <Absolute0> hrolf: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[14:53] <kenlik> ikonia, sorry ... i'm understanding about secure boot but it results with my networking problem? if i download ubuntu 12.10 official spin and trying it the wired net will be solved?
[14:53] <hrolf> Absolute0: It says it is already the latest version
[14:54] <bulletxt> hi, I'm having an issue. df -h states that my / is 100% full on about  220GB of hard disk.   I'm unable to understand where are the files thare occupying the hard disk. If i do du -sh / the total is less than 120GB........ thanks for the help
[14:55] <usr13> bulletxt: Show us.
[14:56] <usr13> bulletxt: df
[14:56] <bulletxt> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590553/
[14:57] <selena2013> question by mistake when i installed ubuntu 12.10 i rezise the hard drive too small
[14:57] <usr13> bulletxt: And that is the output of what command?
[14:57] <selena2013> can i resize it for more storage ?
[14:57] <bulletxt> usr13: df
[14:57] <bulletxt> usr13: as root user
[14:59] <usr13> bulletxt: So what is /dev/md0
[14:59] <usr13> ?
[14:59] <bulletxt> usr13: it's /
[15:00] <unixpablo> Testando.
[15:00] <selena2013> Does Justin Biever use pink Terminal ?
[15:00] <usr13> I realize that the mount point is / but what type of device is it?
[15:00] <bulletxt> usr13: mdadm raid1
[15:01] <usr13> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[15:01] <usr13> bulletxt: show us
[15:01] <ymf> now i'm clear about the problem.
[15:02] <ymf> auronandace: i need to add `ip_tables` module.
[15:02] <bulletxt> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5590567/
[15:04] <usr13> bulletxt: It appears that you have lots of space used up, but by what... we have no way of knowing, (we don't know what you've done).  BTW, what is your native language?
[15:07] <usr13>  ymf   To what ______________?
[15:07] <usr13> ymf: What is your problem?
[15:08] <bulletxt> usr13: I have done nothing!
[15:08] <bulletxt> usr13: the OS is italian
[15:10] <usr13> You might want to join #ubuntu-it
[15:11] <bulletxt> usr13: well, what does the language got to do with my problem?!
[15:11] <usr13> bulletxt: But, ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>
[15:11] <usr13> du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>
[15:12] <auronandace> !iptables | ymf
[15:13] <usr13> bulletxt: Language has nothing to do with your problem, the problem is mine, not yours, (I am monolingural :)
[15:15] <usr13> ymf If you have a problem that you are trying to solve,  tell us what the problem is and maybe we can give you some specific advise.
[15:17] <linuxfreaker> Hi
[15:18] <linuxfreaker> I have installed fog server on one of Ubuntu 12.04.1.
[15:18] <linuxfreaker> I have Windows Xp installed on new machine. there I am trying to open http://<ip>/fog/client its not reaching
[15:18] <linuxfreaker> Do I need fog client package to be installed
[15:19] <rudivs> the colour profile of Image Viewer seems to be stuffed (see http://picpaste.com/image_viewer_colour_profile-UCL0mP1V.png). any idea what could be wrong? some colours look fine, but skin tones are all purple. you can see behind the picture that thumbnails for example work fine. Gimp also fine
[15:20] <m4rtins> Does anybody know why my wifi-connection is much slower in Ubuntu 12.10 than in Mac OSX? i'm running a dual boot setup on a macbook air 2013.
[15:23] <streulma> if you've modified your etc network interfaces
[15:23] <streulma> what's the best way to confirm ?
[15:24] <streulma> shutdown -r now ? or reboot ? or etc init.d networking restart or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[15:26] <JuJuBee> How do I allow non root users to set a printer using cups?
[15:27] <ezhilvanan> Hi, I installed gnome 2.3 on ubuntu 12.10.  i'm getting gnome login screen Now. How can i switch back to ubuntu / unity login screen again?
[15:27] <IzzoDizzo> ezhilvanan : sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:28] <IzzoDizzo> and choose lightdm
[15:28] <auronandace> ezhilvanan: gnome2 is no longer supported
[15:28] <infinus> hello all
[15:30] <ezhilvanan> thanks for your reply.. Are you sure? it won;t delete any of my datas?
[15:32] <infinus> I'm having some problems with permissions, here is a screenshot, perhaps you could help? http://imageshack.us/f/29/screenshot20130306at110.png/
[15:33] <KolakCC> infinus: run that application with gksudo?
[15:34] <infinus> KolakCC: do you happen to know the command to run disk utility from the command line?
[15:34] <KolakCC> I think it's gnome-disk-utility
[15:35] <infinus> sudo: gnome-disk-utility: command not found
[15:35] <KolakCC> nope, it's gnome-disks, sorry.
[15:35] <infinus> k lemme try
[15:36] <together> szia
[15:36] <together> sztok
[15:36] <infinus> gksudo appears in the launcher to the left flashes a few times then disappears
[15:36] <infinus> disk utility never comes up
[15:36] <infinus> is there a way to revert all system files to default permissions?
[15:37] <together> kéne egy kis help egy progi elb.szta a felbontásomat és nem emlékszem melyik konfig fájlba mit kell átirni hogy visszaálljon
[15:37] <together> a grafikus felbontáskezelő megfagy
[15:37] <together> tudna valaki segiteni?
[15:39] <e-dard> Is it simple enough to turn something into an upstart service? I'm using a python worker/queue product (rq) and the workers sit in the foreground waiting for jobs. Would be good to turn into a service
[15:41] <e-dard> Basically you start a worker with $ rqworker and it sits there. Would be good to benefit from restarting the process etc if it crashes, and not having it sit in foreground
[15:44] <infinus> any ideas?
[15:45] <kaustubh> if i connect my usb drive before ubuntu boots, it won't find my second HDD. Second HDD is windows, ntfs, and added to fstab as /dev/sdbx . Ubuntu wont boot because its unable to mount those ntfs partitions. any workaround ??
[15:47] <llutz> kaustubh: yes, don't use device-names, use UUIDs or labels in fstab
[15:47] <Jon_P> hi i have a site in apache setup to /root/html but get access denied when visit site how do i give apache access to that
[15:47] <kaustubh> llutz thanks... I wonder how I did not find that... :D
[15:47] <kaustubh> I will try that
[15:50] <infinus> :/
[15:50] <infinus> anyone around can help me with ubuntu?
[15:50] <h00k> !ask | infinus
[15:51] <infinus> fair enough... though I posted the link to the screenshot some time ago, here it is again: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/screenshot20130306at110.png/
[15:53] <blegat> Did you run it with gksu or not finally ?
[15:54] <h00k> infinus: you may need to run that as root to format drives
[15:54] <blegat> Yep, don't try to change any permissions, just run it as root
[15:58] <infinus> h00k: running gksudo gnome-disks results in a "gksudo" gear icon appearing in the ubuntu launcher, flashing a few times, and disappearing. Disk Utility never appears
[16:01] <Jon_P> hi i have a site in apache setup to /root/html but get access denied when visit site how do i give apache access to that
[16:01] <ivotkl> Gotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a lpeasure as always. =)
[16:01] <ivotkl> Gotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a pleasure as always. =)
[16:03] <xxx> ping 192.168.1.14
[16:03] <xxx> means
[16:03] <xxx> quit
[16:04] <ports> hi
[16:04] <xxx> hellow
[16:04] <ports> I bought a VPS that was running ubuntu 11.04 .. i got it upgraded to 12.04 ..
[16:04] <ports> when I log in.. it tells me that 12.10 is available and to do a do-release-upgrade..   run that... and it says nothing is available
[16:04] <xxx> ohhh ya
[16:05] <ports> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  - doesnt help
[16:05] <blegat> ports - do not upgrade to 12.10
[16:05] <blegat> Just go to 12.04
[16:05] <blegat> Open the Ubuntu Software Center
[16:05] <ports> blegat:  is 12.10 a beta?
[16:05] <ports> im on command line
[16:06] <blegat> Kind of :D
[16:06] <gyre007> whats the best way to disable service on 12.04....is it via good old update-rc.d
[16:06] <gyre007> when I run it I get a message that API is not satble and will be removed ?
[16:06] <gyre007> mm
[16:06] <blegat> 12.04 is a LTS that means it is very stable
[16:06] <blegat> And supported for 3 years
[16:06] <c_randomnick> Hello
[16:06] <ports> oh ok
[16:06] <blegat> 12.10 is not an LTS so it is less stable and only supported for 9 months
[16:06] <gyre007> blegat: whats what it says in terminal...
[16:06] <gyre007> when I run it :)
[16:06] <gyre007> no kidding
[16:06] <ports> blegat:  so leave it alone, ok :P
[16:07] <blegat> Go to Edit/Software sources
[16:07] <gyre007> The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future.
[16:07] <ports> blegat:  im on command line.. update manager is a GUI program
[16:07] <blegat> Disable which services ?
[16:07] <gyre007> mongo
[16:07] <ports> nevermind
[16:07] <blegat> Ah, ok
[16:08] <|Anthony|> i just installed openssh-server and sshd isn't recognized with sudo service sshd restart
[16:08] <|Anthony|> sshd isn't even running on boot
[16:08] <jrib> |Anthony|: "ssh" not "sshd"
[16:08] <|Anthony|> i need to start the daemon to listen for incoming, right?
[16:08] <|Anthony|> jrea,
[16:08] <hxm> hello i have an ubuntu server in a dedicated server, each time i upgrade it asks for restart, but i have many online services i wont shutdown, is really neccessary restart? can i delete that warning in the motd?
[16:08] <jrib> |Anthony|: it should start automatically
[16:08] <|Anthony|> er jrib
[16:08] <|Anthony|> well it's not lol
[16:09] <|Anthony|> hence my frustration and confusion
[16:09] <jrib> |Anthony|: how are you determining it's not started?
[16:09] <|Anthony|> jrib, ps aux | grep ssh
[16:09] <|Anthony|> ssh shows, but not sshd
[16:09] <jrib> |Anthony|: « apt-cache policy openssh-server » returns?
[16:09] <blegat> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:10] <|Anthony|> jrib,  Installed
[16:11] <jrib> |Anthony|: can you pastebin the actual output?
[16:11] <ozhanozen> hello
[16:12] <|Anthony|> jrib, http://pastebin.com/mLy5f0JP
[16:12] <c_randomnick> I am very new to Ubuntu and all linux/unix
[16:12] <jrib> |Anthony|: so what happens when you do "sudo service ssh start" now?
[16:13] <auronandace> jrib: shouldn't that be sshd?
[16:13] <|Anthony|> ssh client runs no problem
[16:13] <|Anthony|> i need sshd to run
[16:13] <jrib> "ssh" is the name of the service for sshd
[16:13] <c_randomnick> Recently installing 12.04
[16:15] <|Anthony|> jrib, ps doens't show any root owned ssh processes
[16:15] <jrib> |Anthony|: ok but what happened when you ran it?
[16:15] <|Anthony|> ssh start/running, process 6109
[16:16] <jrib> |Anthony|: what's the output of « ps -ef | grep 6109 »?
[16:16] <c_randomnick> What is the best suggestion to do immediatly after installation finished?
[16:16] <jrib> c_randomnick: use your OS :)
[16:17] <|Anthony|> jrib, only shows the grep call
[16:17] <|Anthony|> :/
[16:17] <qqz> when installing on SSD, do I have to set the inode size to a multiple of 4096?
[16:17] <jrib> |Anthony|: does /usr/sbin/sshd exist?
[16:17] <qqz> jrib: which sshd
[16:17] <|Anthony|> jrib, sure does
[16:18] <jrib> |Anthony|: just to make sure... "ssh localhost" fails, correct?
[16:18] <|Anthony|> port 22 connection refused
[16:18] <jrib> |Anthony|: run "sudo /usr/bin/sshd -d"
[16:19] <|Anthony|> ha
[16:19] <|Anthony|> config file error
[16:19] <|Anthony|> :/
[16:19] <|Anthony|> bugger
[16:19] <c_randomnick> jrib Thanks much. But how to use it best way? No antivirus needed? Or firewall?
[16:20] <jrib> c_randomnick: just learn how to properly install software using the repositories and you should be ok
[16:20] <jrib> !software | c_randomnick
[16:20] <jrib> !virus | c_randomnick
[16:20] <jrib> !firewall | c_randomnick
[16:21] <ozhanozen> How can i install a program from a tar.gz file (kompozer)
[16:21] <ozhanozen> ?
[16:22] <jrib> !compile | ozhanozen
[16:22] <pvl1> hey all, im trying to install lubuntu, and when i try to set up my / partition, it subtracts a megabyte... 7168 becomes 7167
[16:22] <pvl1> is that bad?
[16:23] <c_randomnick> Thank you and your nice bot for support. Stupid questions exists forever.
[16:24] <pvl1> should partition sizes always be divisble by 4
[16:25] <SuperLag> other than disabling swap... anyone found a workaround to the issue with the ubuntu installer hanging?
[16:25] <Darkstar1> hi all I think some upgrade botched the window manage on my system Everytime the system boots now, I just get a command prompt
[16:25] <Darkstar1> How can I start the window manager?
[16:27] <Hammerhead2011-S> Hi all
[16:27] <blegat> Hi
[16:27] <pvl1> SuperLag, there is non, unless you enable swap on a different drive
[16:27] <Hammerhead2011-S> I upgraded to secure 12.10 and now the USB network adapters I use do not work any ideas?
[16:28] <pvl1> Darkstar1, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:28] <pvl1> Darkstar1, oh u just wanna start it? what ver ubuntu
[16:28] <Hammerhead2011-S> Sorry not an upgrade a brand new install
[16:28] <Darkstar1> pvl1: 12.04
[16:28] <kaustubh> better you downgrade to 12.04
[16:28] <servvs> what would be a good way to make an executable auto launch on ssh login? also if it is closed then they should be logged out of ssh
[16:29] <kaustubh> servvs add that executable to your ~/.bashrc
[16:29] <c_randomnick> c'yall
[16:29] <Darkstar1> HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYA: You should know I sang your name in my head like the outcast song :)
[16:29] <pvl1> Darkstar1, try sudo service lightdm restart
[16:29] <servvs> and that does everythign I will need it to?
[16:30] <pvl1> Darkstar1, or just write unity and hit enter
[16:30] <Darkstar1> tried the first
[16:30] <HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYA> Darkstar1 :)
[16:31] <Darkstar1> pvl1: compiz(core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0
[16:31] <servvs> kaustubh, I don't really understand where I would add it
[16:32] <discodeer> Hey guys! Can anyone recommend similar panel softwares to "tint2" that might be compatible with LXDE? :)
[16:32] <pvl1> Darkstar1, do u have integrated graphics or a gpu? i would just try to reconfigure all packages first
[16:33] <Darkstar1> pvl1: discrete. Though I can't remember what card it is.
[16:34] <Darkstar1> but it's been working fine until now. I can even VNC into the system
[16:34] <kaustubh> servvs you must be having a file in your home directory for ex. /home/kaustubh/.bashrc
[16:34] <skullboy83> hi all
[16:34] <pvl1> Darkstar1, hm did u mess with the compiz config file at all
[16:34] <kaustubh> servvs open that file and add whatever command you would like to run to the end of the file for ex. /bin/wow
[16:35] <Darkstar1> pvl1: nope. It's mostly headless system. I haven't had to loginto it locally just over the local net most of the time
[16:35] <kaustubh> hello skullboy83
[16:35] <servvs> oh ok thanks kaustubh
[16:35] <Darkstar1> pvl1: ran an update then upgrade a few days back via terminal
[16:36] <kaustubh> try that and let me know
[16:36] <crevillo> hello, just updated my php and my vesions in ubuntu 10.04, but now i'm getting this error running php -cli   libmysqlclient_r.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[16:37] <crevillo> any ideas?
[16:37] <kaustubh> servvs but the command will run on every login of that user and not only on ssh logins
[16:37] <crevillo> any packages providing that?
[16:37] <servvs> kaustubh would there be a good way to exit the ssh connection if a program is closed?
[16:37] <pvl1> Darkstar1, PM me please
[16:37] <geartrooper> greetings, is there a helpful website to change my smartphone to run Ubuntu?
[16:38] <jpds> geartrooper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:38] <geartrooper> ty jpds
[16:38] <kaustubh> servvs I did not understand you question
[16:39] <servvs> if the program is closed the ssh connection should abort. I think I can do it in my program though
[16:39] <kaustubh> servvs you will ssh, then you will run a program and you want ssh session to exit after the program stops?
[16:39] <servvs> correct
[16:39] <geartrooper> has anyone had success changing a huawei ascend to ubuntu?
[16:39] <kaustubh> servvs what kind of program is it?
[16:40] <sanav> !ot
[16:41] <servvs> kaustubh, its a chat program/server I am developing in python for a learning experience. The only reason I want ssh set up is because a lot of my friends don't use a posix compatible os and the program won't work on windows
[16:42] <discodeer> No one here has messed around with different panel softwares?
[16:43] <auronandace> !docks | discodeer
[16:43] <kaustubh> ok. servvs I don't know python much, however you might want to try out simple command exit to exit the shell which will disconnect ssh
[16:43] <discodeer> yea, I'm using Docky but I need panel software for various indicators
[16:44] <kaustubh> I don't know how does one do that in python though
[16:44] <discodeer> Is there a way to integrate language switching button in Docky?
[16:44] <kaustubh> discodeer you might want to setup ubuntu hotkey for language changes maybe??
[16:45] <kaustubh> Bye guys!! Happy opensourcing!!!
[16:45] <Lord-Readman> Can someone please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguagePackTranslationDeadline and place year information in there
[16:45] <Lord-Readman> it makes no sense
[16:47] <Lord-Readman> still needs updating but i found my answer on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:48] <geartrooper> anyone here currently developing the touch phone ubuntu software?  I have some questions
[16:48] <geartrooper> free ones
[16:53] <elijah> How would I upgrade NetworkManager from 0.9.4.0 (precise/12.04) to 0.9.8.0. It was working fine for a long time but now cannot maintain a connection for long. I want to upgrade but don't know the best way.
[17:03] <qdb> hello what is %u in ubuntu default launchers ? nautilus %u , firefox %u . what disadvantages if i remove that ?
[17:03] <Rokkross> qdb: If it works, don't touch it.
[17:04] <qdb> Rokkross, i want to make custom launcher " firefox -no-remote -p default " etc should i set somewhere there "%u" and why
[17:05] <tgm4883> qdb, if I had to guess, %u would be for URI
[17:05] <jrib> qdb: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/1.1/ar01s06.html
[17:08] <Juanito_Fulencia> If i have a package that ubuntu claims is broken, but it isnt.. How can i make ubuntu think it is correct ?
[17:09] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: give more details
[17:09] <Juanito_Fulencia> Otherwise it will get autoremoved
[17:09] <antz> on /etc/init.d/   whats the difference between networking and network-manager. who is in charge of network?
[17:09] <Juanito_Fulencia> jrib: I have steam installed and it works perfectly. But when i try to install something in synaptic or apt it wants to remove it.
[17:09] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: pastebin
[17:10] <Juanito_Fulencia> jrib: What do you want pasted? The apt-get output?
[17:10] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: input and output, yes
[17:11] <llutz> antz: both, one for the ifupdown controlled things, and the other... for networkmanager
[17:11] <Juanito_Fulencia> apt-get install yakuake results in: The following packages have unmet dependencies: steam-launcher : Depends: zenity but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)..
[17:12] <Juanito_Fulencia> I have zenity and libgtk-3-0 blacklisted. Ans steam works just fine without them
[17:12] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: why do you have them blacklisted?
[17:12] <Juanito_Fulencia> I dont want to install them
[17:12] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: yes, but why?
[17:13] <Juanito_Fulencia> It is a precaution so i do not install any gtk3 applications by misstake
[17:14] <Juanito_Fulencia> so, can i tell ubuntu that steam is actually correctly installed?
[17:14] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: because you just don't want gtk3?  If that's the case, then your best bet is to modify the steam-launcher package so that it doesn't have those dependencies.  Though that probably means you are missing out on some functionality of the package.  The package *is not* correctly installed because its dependencies are not satisfied
[17:15] <Juanito_Fulencia> No the only missing functionality is according to the other at ubuntu-steam only some progressbar har i have never seen anyways
[17:15] <ghorom> I like potatoes
[17:15] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: yes.
[17:16] <Superuser1> hello
[17:16] <jrib> Juanito_Fulencia: my advice would be to install zenity.  But if you insist on not doing so, then  your options are to either modify the package or use equivs.  Both of which are not ideal
[17:16] <Juanito_Fulencia> I guess i could just make a script to reinstall steam every time i want to game... That would be faster
[17:16] <Superuser1> portforwarding in ubuntu, anyone?
[17:16] <Rokkross> Superuser1: That's something you do on your router.
[17:17] <Rokkross> It doesn't have much to do with your OS. I mean, you need a static IP, but that's easy to set up.
[17:17] <Superuser1> how?
[17:17] <Rokkross> Well I don't know. It's your router.
[17:17] <Superuser1> help me
[17:17] <Rokkross> Do you know how to access the web interface for your router?
[17:17] <Juanito_Fulencia> Superuser1: Your router came with a manual, and all routers are different.
[17:17] <Superuser1> nope. i am a newb to this stuff
[17:18] <Rokkross> Usually though, you'll find something along the lines of "port forwarding" or "virtual servers"
[17:18] <Rokkross> In which you'll put in external port start/end, internal port start/end, and the local IP of the machine you're forwarding ports to.
[17:18] <Rokkross> Again, you need it to be a static IP. If you're trying to do this on a laptop that you use outside of the house I'd just forget about it if I were you.
[17:19] <Juanito_Fulencia> Rokkross: You could use dhcp with binding to the mac adress if the router supports it.
[17:20] <woo> Juanito_Fulencia: mac to port?
[17:20] <Rokkross> Right, I don't think mine does so I wouldn't know how to go about doing that :P
[17:20] <David^^> is there any cli tool that can identify the hard drive in my machine?
[17:20] <llutz> David^^: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX
[17:21] <ghorom> I like potatoes
[17:21] <ghorom> !porn
[17:21] <woo> David^^:  /dev/disk/by-label/ and tab thru
[17:21] <Juanito_Fulencia> woo: Mac adress of the NIC
[17:22] <woo> David^^: or lshw
[17:22] <woo> Juanito_Fulencia: Nic of Host cpu?
[17:23] <woo> Juanito_Fulencia: cool
[17:24] <woo> Juanito_Fulencia: that improves dynamic on lan
[17:25] <woo> Juanito_Fulencia: would also make it easy to mask a mim
[17:25] <ghorom> any potato lovers here?
[17:26] <llutz> ghorom: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[17:26] <David^^> llutz woo : thanks
[17:26] <ghorom> yes llutz , I want to know how to embed a kernel into a potato device
[17:27] <llutz> stop your nonsense here
[17:27] <acolytetojippity> can't tell if serious or not...
[17:27] <woo> acolytetojippity: me either
[17:27] <acolytetojippity> there isn't any like, open source platform with the codename potato, right?
[17:27] <acolytetojippity> like, that's not a thing, is it?
[17:27] <ghorom> debian 3 is potato
[17:27] <llutz> acolytetojippity: potato was an early debian release name
[17:28] <acolytetojippity> seriously?  lol.
[17:28] <Rokkross> ghorom: Find a large potato and carve it into a raspberry pi case.
[17:29] <woo> Rokkross: just slide a usb w/ a cable out the top
[17:29] <acolytetojippity> accrding to wikipedia, 2.2 was potato.
[17:29] <ghorom> sorry, made a mistake
[17:30] <keithzg> Debian release names are based off of Toy Story, so "potato" actually makes sense as a release name.
[17:31] <woo> anyone wanna help me get vnc to work from fedora to ubuntu?
[17:32] <Juanito_Fulencia> Btw i just removed the entry of zenity from steam-launcher in /var/lib/dkpg/status and now it wont bother me again about that.
[17:33] <Juanito_Fulencia> keithzg: potato has allready been used
[17:34] <Juanito_Fulencia> sid will never go away though as he is the kid that comes around and breaks everything.
[17:34] <nils___> is there some way I can use the regular 12.10 DVD and install on RAID / LVM?
[17:34] <keithzg> Juanito_Fulencia: Yeah, I know actually, I was just responding to acolytetojippity's incredulity about the name.
[17:35] <Juanito_Fulencia> keithzg: oh, i see
[17:35] <qdb> thank you ,  jrib
[17:38] <ner0x> How, on ubuntu one, can I provide a list of files/directories to ignore?
[17:38] <bsnl> Still trying to install the program from last night, It had a music issue commonly associated with ubuntu usage and i'm trying to follow these directions here to fix it but I need help
[17:39] <bsnl> Correction- Program is installed, but the musics not working and I have to trouble shoot it
[17:40] <bsnl> http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html is what i'm trying to install and i'm stuck on step "Open a terminal and change the directory to the download destination.
[17:40] <ghorom> my machine has two graphic cards, the powerful one does not work by default in windows, but when I run ubuntu, the fans work hard and the machine gets so hot andd the battery goes off so soon.
[17:41] <petafile> I'm trying to change my shell, but chsh -s /bin/bash give me an error user does not exist in /etc/passwd.  Is there a way around this?
[17:42] <suore> Hello, how change ubuntu name in nerwork?
[17:42] <Guest97239> ciao
[17:42] <Guest97239> list
[17:43] <llutz> Peanut: as user "chsh -s /bin/bash" or "sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username"
[17:43] <llutz> petafile: ^^
[17:43] <petafile> llutz: that's exactly what I ran, and it gave me the /etc/passwd error.  I'm NOT in /etc/passwd for some reason
[17:44] <llutz> petafile: getent passwd username
[17:44] <pin> test
[17:44] <petafile> llutz that all looks right to me
[17:45] <misterz3d> #irc
[17:45] <misterz3d> ops
[17:45] <petafile> llutz: how do I modify that then?
[17:45] <[snake]> is there a way to install a minimal version of gnome3. like no extra applications like the official gnome calendar or w/e. i already have stuff fo all that.
[17:45] <[snake]> ?
[17:45] <bsnl> The download destination/directory of the downloaded file was identified in used in command this is what the terminal gave me
[17:46] <llutz> petafile: "sudo usermod -s /bin/bash username"
[17:47] <petafile> llutz: I have sudo access, but why can't I change my OWN shell without it? (just curious)
[17:47] <llutz> petafile: honestly, idk. i never had seen that issue
[17:48] <petafile> hmm.  Weird.  Thanks
[17:50] <bsnl> Oh sweet nvm figured it out
[17:51] <bsnl> Looks like just bravely jumping in and trusting yourself is the way around any linux issue
[17:52] <Kruppt> suore: You want to change hostname? edit the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts file to change ...take note of current name and change likewise
[17:52] <[snake]> like idk. in gentoo there is emerge gnome-light or something.
[17:52] <[snake]> maybe there is a way to do it with aptitude
[17:52] <suore> Kruppt, im afraid by console, is possible by clicking by gui?
[17:54] <Kruppt> suore:there may be, but I'm not familiar with the GUI tools to do so.
[17:55] <bsnl> bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads$ cd avbin-linux-x86-32-7
[17:55] <bsnl> bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads/avbin-linux-x86-32-7$ sudo ./install.sh
[17:55] <bsnl> bsnl@bsnl-Inspiron-1525:~/Downloads/avbin-linux-x86-32-7$
[17:56] <bsnl> Does this mean it installed? The directory isn't showing anything
[17:56] <woo> ! pastebin | bsnl
[17:57] <N2ghtCrawler> I'd like to set up a mail server for MFP machines to use for outgoing mail. Can some one point me to a good guide for a outgoing-email-only-server?
[17:58] <llutz> !info ssmtp | N2ghtCrawler
[17:58] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-ssmtp.html
[17:59] <N2ghtCrawler> llutz: thanks! Will have a look!
[17:59] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: there are also msmtp, nullmailer as simple "sendmail" solutions
[18:01] <bsnl> There you go Woo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591047/  and this was the command trying to match up with the instructions posted HERE- http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/osx-linux.html  instructions for linux step 2 with avbin installation
[18:01] <skulltip> if i get an asus, wipe it and install ubuntu on it.. could i run games and apps such as steam and blender, or will it only work on i386/x64?
[18:02] <woo> skulltip: back up /dev/sda before you wipe it
[18:02] <skulltip> i'm reading 12.10 can be installed though, is it emulating x86 since the asus is atom based?
[18:03] <llutz> skulltip: atom is x86
[18:03] <tgm4883> skulltip, the atom is an x86/64 processor
[18:03] <skulltip> ohh cool
[18:03] <skulltip> atom is like intel or amd then
[18:03] <tgm4883> atom is made by intel
[18:04] <llutz> skulltip: no, atom is like pentium, celeron. a cpu-family by intel
[18:04] <woo> llutz: how is steam under an atom processor?
[18:04] <llutz> idk, i don't play games
[18:05] <woo> skulltip: if you just want games then I would back that sda up first
[18:05] <N2ghtCrawler> llutz: If I understand correctly, none of those servers relay mail? They can USE a relay but I want to BE the relay.
[18:05] <skulltip> ok ty
[18:05] <bsnl> Does the command log I posted look like it installed? I think it did
[18:06] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: oh, ok. sry i got you wrong then
[18:06] <woo> skulltip: what gpu are you running on the atom machine?
[18:07] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: you asked about "outgoing-email-only-server",that not a relay
[18:08] <Knoob> wut
[18:10] <N2ghtCrawler> llutz: sorry, I was unclear. I want to relay emails from MFP machines.
[18:10] <bsnl> nevermind, I got to work. Woohoo!
[18:11] <bsnl> Troubleshooting linux is the most fun thing ever
[18:11] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: just install postfix or exim4. there should be howtos on the wiki
[18:11] <MakiAto> tasa!
[18:11] <bsnl> What are some really good guides you guys would suggest for getting a good handle on linux? I want to do more with this system but my knowledge is limited
[18:11] <MakiAto> tada!
[18:12] <jrib> !rute | bsnl
[18:12] <llutz> N2ghtCrawler: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4 , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[18:12] <bsnl> sweet thanks jrib
[18:13] <jrib> bsnl: rute gives a very broad intro to a lot of topics
[18:13] <Taev> how do i add a desktop icon in KDE
[18:13] <Taev> i want to create an icon for terminal
[18:13] <bsnl> Nice jrib. Welp, I know what i'm doing this afternoon
[18:14] <Taev> but the only options i get are run command, add widget, add panel
[18:14] <nate_h> is there anyway to provide a package-selection file when removing packages?  resolvconf always has a dialog box which the user simply presses ok on, but this prevents me from scripting its removal
[18:15] <goantaflorin> hello
[18:15] <Taev> also how do i align the desktop icons in KDE?
[18:16] <goantaflorin> sound problem ubuntu 12.04
[18:17] <setra> I like to replace a string in a file.txt with multiple lines generated in a bash script on the fly VAR="line1 <return>line2...etc.linex", how can I do that.
[18:17] <davis776> Hello, when I lock my 12.10 with ctrl+alt+l screen is still on for few minutes, can I set it to turn off immediately?
[18:18] <magichands> is there some saner way to manage package versions?
[18:18] <magichands> it seems like I need a PPA for almost everything
[18:19] <Pici> !latest
[18:19] <s0r1n> hello from romania
[18:21] <magichands> is there some sane way to have multiple php versions installed currently?
[18:22] <ubuntu22> I am getting errors when trying to update my 12.04 - Update Manager is erroring with Not all updates can be installed, and I cannot install new linux headers
[18:23] <setra> anybody with sed experience, or better ideas?
[18:24] <pseudonymous> In hopes of not getting a 'rtfm' - how the heck do I disable a service right here now using that damnable upstart ? SystemD has straightforward syntax but skimming through the upstart manual I still have no answer, it's a mess :(
[18:25] <pseudonymous> (I'm looking to disable whoopsie and cron and not have them resurrect on me)
[18:28] <tgm4883> pseudonymous, that sounds like a question for #upstart
[18:29] <pseudonymous> Why's there even a channel for that, it's not like anyone but ubuntu uses this trash :(
[18:30] <tgm4883> pseudonymous, ???
[18:31] <guide_X> how do I enable scrollbars in ubuntu 12.10? i'm using xfce
[18:31] <pseudonymous> tgm4883: Nevermind, I'm just crying/lamenting, I had to run ubuntu on this server due to some annoying proprietary driver and so I'm stuck with upstart, it's impossible to figure out compared to systemD or initD
[18:31] <guide_X> in the file manager
[18:32] <tgm4883> pseudonymous, to each his own
[18:32] <guide_X> anyone know how to do it? I can't get to the bottom of any window
[18:33] <tgm4883> guide_X, perhaps #xubuntu knows
[18:35] <pseudonymous> tgm4883: anything that forces a 100+ page manual on you to stop a service is bad, no matter what it can do otherwise
[18:35] <Akshayr> i installd virtual box through Software center and now i want to remove it ... how should I ?
[18:35] <tgm4883> pseudonymous, I don't think I understand. You don't need a 100+ page manual to stop a service (service <SERVICE> stop)
[18:35] <guide_X> +1, tired of reading hundred page manuals so I can do one simple thing heh
[18:36] <streulma> looking for a ubuntu to run on Pentium 3
[18:36] <tgm4883> guide_X, that is what ctrl+f is for?
[18:36] <tgm4883> or ToC
[18:36] <tgm4883> streulma, probably #xubuntu
[18:36] <guide_X> still
[18:37] <mrmcgibby> after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 successfully, the next upgrade (to 11.10?) fails to boot.  Where should I start?  I'm using software raid which I suspect is the issue.
[18:37] <guide_X> although service (service) stop shouldn't be hard
[18:37] <tgm4883> guide_X, I'd rather have 100 pages of documentation than zero
[18:37] <guide_X> true
[18:38] <tgm4883> guide_X, and there is far too many projects with zero documentation
[18:38] <guide_X> that's very true too..
[18:38] <DoWhileGeek> you know what to do https://www.change.org/petitions/skype-update-the-linux-and-mac-clients-to-match-windows
[18:39] <tgm4883> DoWhileGeek, good luck getting microsoft to do that
[18:39] <DoWhileGeek> sometimes nagging works
[18:39] <Akshayr> quit()
[18:39] <Akshayr> quit
[18:40] <tgm4883> DoWhileGeek, millions of dollars in fines doesn't even work with microsoft
[18:40] <DoWhileGeek> maybe they just dont know how much the users on these platforms want updates?
[18:41] <DoWhileGeek> they stand to make as much money from us as windows users
[18:41] <tgm4883> DoWhileGeek, maybe they just don't care?
[18:41] <KHendrik> hi folks
[18:42] <KHendrik> I just got a new pc and its the first i own with efi and secure boot ... is there anything i need to take care of before installing ubuntu (i want to remove Windows 8 during install)
[18:43] <suolakurkku_> o/
[18:43] <tgm4883> KHendrik, IIRC, 12.04.2 and 12.10 both work OOTB with secure boot, that said, I had to disable secure boot on my dell laptop when installing 12.10
[18:45] <KHendrik> tgm4883, is there any advantage in using secure boot?
[18:46] <tgm4883> personally, I say no
[18:46] <sysop2> hi
[18:47] <sysop2> is there anyway to synchronize the same command across two boxes?  other than making sure their clocks are synced and croning them at the same time.
[18:47] <skulltip> sorry woo, i got pulled away. what gpu on the atom machine?
[18:47] <KHendrik> tgm4883, ok the live cd boots successfully with secureboot enabled so i guess the installer should be fine too
[18:47] <tgm4883> KHendrik, yea should be fine then
[18:48] <tgm4883> sysop2, is this a one time thing, or something that reoccurs
[18:48] <guide_X> hmm does anyone know how to enable scrollbars in ubuntu 12.10?
[18:48] <tgm4883> sysop2, and what is your margin of error on the time
[18:51] <KHendrik> hmm I've got an 256GB SSD and 2TB HDD how would i normally go with partitioning?
[18:54] <woo> KHendrik: um RAID?
[18:56] <KHendrik> woo, I was thinking the SSD for / and HDD for /home/ but it might be a bit much 256GB for / without home
[18:57] <tgm4883> KHendrik, I've got a much smaller SSD, but I did /home and / on SSD, and then mounted the HDD and gave permission to my  user for that
[18:57] <skulltip> anyone have ubuntu running on asus tf700, if so how does it perform with applications, memory, power usage, etc
[18:57] <tgm4883> then used the HDD for large storage files (media/vms)
[18:58] <alainus> i am trying to add the new apt repositories for postgresql, and they suggest using http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/quantal-pgdg (I'm using quantal). However, the repository only has until precise. is it safe to just replace the keyword and use the repo for precise?
[18:58] <theadmin> alainus: Quite likely not.
[18:58] <theadmin> alainus: Postgres is in the Ubuntu repos, why not just use that?
[18:59] <KHendrik> tgm4883, sounds like a good idea.
[19:00] <alainus> theadmin, because i tried installing hstore from the postgresql-contrib-9.2 and it doesn't show under /usr/share/postgresql/9.2/contrib .. so i was trying to add the recommended apt repo from postgres and try to reinstall postgresql-contrib-9.2
[19:00] <alainus> but seems i should just go to 9.1 =(
[19:00] <tgm4883> alainus, what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:01] <theadmin> alainus: You don't always need the newest version of whatever for it to work.
[19:02] <alainus> tgm4883, just updgrade to postgres 9.2
[19:02] <tgm4883> alainus, " postgresql-contrib-9.2 and it doesn't show under /usr/share/postgresql/9.2/contrib"   what are you looking for?
[19:03] <guide_X> is there some kind of trick to get the scrollwheel on my mouse to work?
[19:03] <tgm4883> alainus, quantal has 9.2, so you should just need to apt-get install it
[19:03] <tgm4883> alainus, wait, my bad
[19:03] <tgm4883> aparently my brain doesn't work, it has 9.1
[19:04] <alainus> tgm4883, i'm looking for hstore
[19:04] <Novus> ubuntu alt channel for chat?
[19:04] <streulma> it's not good to install postgresql and Tomcat just from the packages of Ubuntu
[19:04] <streulma> I know ot from GIS poeple
[19:04] <streulma> people
[19:05] <alainus> i'll just go with 9.1 for now
[19:05] <tgm4883> alainus, /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/lib/hstore.so
[19:05] <tgm4883> alainus, I'd imagine it's in a similar place for 9.2
[19:05] <Novus> Question - Will ubuntu have an app store like android and crapple?
[19:06] <Novus> for their new phone?
[19:06] <SierraAR> I'd think it'd be similar to the ubuntu software center in 12.04/12.10
[19:07] <Novus> I'm a dev for portable games and I'll be damned if I ever do anythign for apple, but I am looking to widden my market
[19:07] <tgm4883> I'd imagine they'd just write a phone interface for USC
[19:07] <xangua> !phone | Novus
[19:07] <Novus> I am launching a windows app port this week and was looking into them next
[19:08] <Novus> nice
[19:09] <H0r1ZoN> With Mir, Seems like Canonical wants everything in-house.
[19:09] <Novus> the apps?
[19:09] <H0r1ZoN> The doubth is if it will be a success.
[19:09] <tgm4883> no, the apps won't all be in house
[19:10] <tgm4883> H0r1ZoN, is being a bit random and OT
[19:10] <Novus> i only made $500 bucks on 1 game so far and it's pissing me off for the dev time put in
[19:10] <tgm4883> Novus, what game?
[19:11] <Novus> Future ops
[19:12] <tgm4883> Novus, on android?
[19:12] <Novus> yes
[19:13] <mJayk> win 5
[19:13] <tgm4883> Novus, just looking at it now. It isn't my type of game, but it seems premium users don't get much extra? just sooner access to new features?
[19:13] <Novus> yes,. working on a map system that users can build their own levels soon with premade models
[19:13] <Novus> that wil be in the pro version
[19:14] <timindaburgh> I'm trying to print via LAN from a laptop with U12.10 onto a Canon MF4880dw ImageCLASS printer. Canon does not offer drivers and I can't get anything to work. Ideas?
[19:15] <bobka> I'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"? If yes, how? Tha
[19:15] <tgm4883> timindaburgh, have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/234196/trying-to-setup-a-cannon-image-class-mf4880dw-printer
[19:16] <timindaburgh> tgm4883 I'll try that now.
[19:17] <Guest20690> fu
[19:17] <Guest20690> killkillkill
[19:23] <timindaburgh> tgm4883 I've downloaded the file from Canon. Now, when I add the printer on my U12.10 by looking for the PPD file, I'm not able to find it in the 32-bit_Driver folder. What must I do next?
[19:28] <ccvvcc> how to format c text in nano?
[19:29] <auronandace> ccvvcc: format?
[19:30] <dward> is the drive encryption type from the live cd just luks
[19:30] <ccvvcc> arrange by blocks nests
[19:31] <leptone> does anyone know how to setup aptana for django development? i am unable to open certain folders in my project.
[19:31] <zyngawow> Can anyone here help with AWS?
[19:33] <Dartellum> Hello, does anyone have a good reason to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[19:34] <auronandace> Dartellum: more recent apps
[19:36] <TraN> Good evening, or whatever time it is at your place =) So, im running windows 8, but growing tired of it, though I will probably need it for a while still, for gaming and such, so I am about to try dual booting it with ubuntu. Anything in particular I should consider before installing?
[19:36] <timindaburgh> tgm4883: I've tried to install the MF4880DW driver without luck. I first tried in the ADD PRINTER within U12.10, then I tried to use a browser using localhost:631. When trying the latter, I get "Unable to add printer: Unable to copy interface script - No such file or directory" using any PPD file from Canon. Any suggestions of what to try next?
[19:37] <auronandace> !uefi | TraN
[19:37] <TraN> heh, thanks :)
[19:37] <SuperLag> I've got two displays. I have it configured with arandr. I'm just not sure where to put the shell script that it creates, so that the settings persist on boot.
[19:37] <ioria> TraN: meaning, uefi it's a nightmare
[19:38] <TraN> so Ive read, but I didnt really 100% understand what it does..
[19:38] <enav> Heloo, i got $300 and i need a laptop to do web development with 4GB of ram, any recommendation where i can get a new laptop for that max price ?????
[19:39] <DJones> enav: Ask in ##hardware
[19:39] <ioria> TraN: the problem is the MBR, master boot record, required by grub
[19:39] <TraN> ioria, what about it?
[19:39] <sweb> how can i set cache server to my local system. using ubuntu 12.10 server
[19:39] <sweb> i'v install bind9
[19:39] <escott> ioria, TraN UEFI doesn't have an MBR
[19:40] <Sornaensis> web development requires at least 8gb of ram, sorry
[19:40] <TraN> >_< ouch.
[19:40] <ioria> TraN: grub is the boot oader of Ubu, but uefi has no mbr
[19:40] <bekks> Even UEFI has an MBR - it is the first logical block of a disk.
[19:40] <guide_X> how do I get my mouses scrollwheel to work in ubuntu 12.10?
[19:40] <ioria> TraN: grub is the boot loader of Ubu, but uefi has no mbr
[19:40] <leptone> has anyone setup aptana before?
[19:40] <guide_X> i've installed aptana under windows (unfortunetly)
[19:41] <TraN> same here. didnt think it worked great though.
[19:41] <guide_X> it was pretty horrible and slow
[19:41] <auronandace> leptone: what is it?
[19:41] <guide_X> I like geany :)
[19:41] <fourq> Is it possible to create an image of my ubuntu install after I have everything setup the way I want it, so that I can re-install at anytime? Also adding incrementals to it when I add more that I want on the image?
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> fourq: remastersys
[19:42] <ioria> TraN: you should convert your hd
[19:42] <leptone> Aptana is an IDE i think specifically for web dev. ive got it dset up but am expirencing a very strange issue.
[19:42] <TraN> but following this guide about installing with uefi will work, or is one of those annyoing "will sometimes work"?
[19:42] <fourq> ntzrmtthihu777: ty
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> TraN: there is always a risk doing anything.
[19:43] <escott> TraN, a number of the UEFI implementations out there are broken in subtle ways
[19:43] <ioria> TraN: really, i have no uefi, but if it's reccomended it should work :P
[19:43] <escott> TraN, i would certainly recommend disabling secure boot
[19:43] <bsnl> Why do people prefer Gentoo?
[19:43] <jman074> holy crap there are a lot of people in this room how is it possible to get any help in here. lol
[19:43] <DJones> bsnl: You should ask that in #gentoo
[19:43] <auronandace> bsnl: this channel is for ubuntu help
[19:44] <jrib> bsnl: ask the people who prefer it :)  You could try #ubuntu-offtopic but that's probably not the best place
[19:44] <bsnl> Oh there's a gentoo channel? thanks, i'll go there
[19:44] <leptone> I am unable to view the contents of /workspace/mysite/mysite from aptana (or eclipse with the aptana plugin) but i can view contents of othe folders for instance /workspace/mysite/polls/ (going thro django polls tutorial)
[19:44] <TraN> escott: yes, that certainly seems like a good thing then.. but how will it affect my winblow?
[19:44] <TraN> +s
[19:44] <sweb> any one ?
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jman074: ask. If there were noone here no one could help you. the strength of ubuntu is the community
[19:44] <escott> TraN, you won't be booting with secure boot, thats the only difference
[19:44] <jrib> leptone: what happens when you try to view them?  Can you ls the directory in a terminal?
[19:44] <jman074> NTZ if your not busy could you i pm you for some help
[19:45] <guide_X> so anyone know how to enable the mouse scroll wheel in ubuntu 12.10
[19:45] <TraN> escott: I see.. well, if its as easy as that, then I will just go ahead and disable it I guess..?
[19:45] <guide_X> or some kind of special trick to make the scroll wheel work?
[19:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> jman074: it is usual to settle out in channel, so others can see and learn, but its ok.
[19:46] <auronandace> guide_X: they should just work, unless you got some special sort of gamers mouse
[19:46] <leptone> jrib, i can acces the DIR via termianl no problem. in eclipse or aptanta  i see the mysite/mysite directory but rather than have a triangle "drop down toggle" like the mysite/polls directory the mysite/mysite is an icon of a folder. but i cant open the folder and edit its contents. like if i double click on it nothing opens or changes
[19:47] <sweb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/264827/changing-name-server-to-local
[19:47] <guide_X> nope it's a regular old mouse
[19:47] <guide_X> with a scrollwheel
[19:47] <guide_X> an logitech rx1500
[19:47] <rndbit> hey any of you fine people know workaround for wine failing to detect libosmesa on ubuntu?
[19:47] <guide_X> it's in virtual box as well
[19:48] <auronandace> rndbit: is mesa installed?
[19:48] <rndbit> sure is
[19:48] <jrib> leptone: strange.  Is there anything peculiar about these directories?  Are they maybe symlinks?  What's ls -ld mysite/mysite return?
[19:48] <rndbit> as far as i gathered its wine problem, but in #winehq everyone is asleep
[19:48] <rndbit> /home/rndbit/wine-git/conftest.c:171: undefined reference to `glAccum'
[19:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> windows version of unetbootin can burn an iso to a hard-drive partition, linux's does not. is there a way you can figure this in linux?
[19:50] <leptone> jrib, drwxrwxr-x 2 casey casey 4096 Mar  6 11:05 .
[19:50] <auronandace> rndbit: wine-git? so you are not using the wine from the repos?
[19:50] <fisch246> anyone know how to manually uninstall a program? I installed spotweb and it got corrupted in the install. so now any sort of uninstall won't work unless i manually just start deleting packages. would removing the bin be enough for ubuntu not to notice it? once i get ubuntu to not notice it, i can move onto removing the install folder.
[19:50] <rndbit> im compiling my own
[19:50] <leptone> jrib, symlinks?
[19:50] <rndbit> want to apply some patches
[19:50] <d3c0> django and apache2?
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> fisch246: how do you mean not notice it
[19:51] <fisch246> ntzrmtthihu777: it tries to update and such, which creates a broken package system
[19:52] <jrib> leptone: never mind, your ls output indicates it's not a symlink.  Have you tried renaming it?  Could be some sort of weird bug because the parent directory has the same name
[19:52] <auronandace> fisch246: manually deleting things will very likely confuse dpkg and mess up your system
[19:52] <ioria> fisch246: if you download and compile a package you can use make unistall, and in the README or INSTALL you should find info
[19:52] <Tracker> need help switching to apache2-mpm-worker and php5-fpm .. currently on mpm-prefork and php and everything works.. but want to upgrade to mpm-worker and php5-fpm so installed package mpm-worker and it autoremoves php5apachemodule and then when trying to configure php5-fpm with mod_fastcgi or fcgid php is still browser download or plain text... not executed.. with mpm-worker .. whats wrong..ö
[19:52] <Tracker> anyone? no errors in logs.
[19:52] <guide_X> so does anyone know how to troubleshoot the mouse scrollwheel? I can't get it to work at all.. I have a normal laser mouse with two buttons
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> apt-get remove -f package
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> should force the removal
[19:52] <jrib> guide_X: see if anything is registered when you scroll in an "xev" window
[19:53] <guide_X> hmm ok
[19:53] <timindaburgh> Still trying to install ImageCLASS MF4450 drivers on my U12.10 to print on a LAN-connected ImageCLASS MF4880dw. When I try to install the 32-bit driver, I get the error: "Unable to open PPD file - Missing asterisk in column 1 on line 1... etc." Can anyone offer suggestions?
[19:53] <guide_X> no nothing
[19:54] <jxshxx> Could have sworn setting up dual boot w/ xp used to be easier.  Did the steps change from Live CD?
[19:54] <jrib> guide_X: what ubuntu version? What mouse?
[19:55] <fisch246> (solved) the command apt-get remove -f, did what i wanted
[19:55] <guide_X> ubuntu 12.10, logitech rx1500
[19:55] <fisch246> Thanks!
[19:55] <fisch246> ntzrmtthihu777: cheers
[19:56] <leptone> jrib, i believe thats how it works. i think it has something to do with the way i migrated it to eclipse bc i just create a new project with in eclipse an i am able to view the contents of test/test id really like it if i didnt have to start the django tutorial over after recreating the project within eclipse
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> I guess that did it
[19:56] <jrib> leptone: I don't know anything about eclipse so don't really have anything else to suggest unfortunately
[19:56] <huge> zz
[19:57] <leptone> jrib, np thanks for help.
[19:57] <jrib> guide_X: have you ruled out a hardware problem?
[19:57] <guide_X> well the mouse works fine in windows
[19:58] <guide_X> scrollwheel works and such
[19:58] <jrib> guide_X: you can try playing with xinput (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input) but I don't know exactly what you need to do
[19:58] <guide_X> ok cool
[19:59] <guide_X> oh i've also tried other mice, forgot to mention
[19:59] <guide_X> I tried another simple  microsoft mouse with laser and scrollwheel as well
[19:59] <jrib> guide_X: and the other mouse worked ok?
[20:00] <guide_X> it works fine, except for the scroll wheel of course
[20:00] <jrib> guide_X: hmm.
[20:00] <guide_X> it doesn't work just like the other mouse,
[20:00] <guide_X> but works in windows as well
[20:01] <auronandace> guide_X: do you have a custom xorg.conf?
[20:02] <guide_X> hmm not that I know of
[20:03] <guide_X> no one else uses the linux install except for me, but I didn't edit the xorg.conf
[20:03] <Mishke> which last ubuntu version with gnome?
[20:03] <n-iCe> 12.10
[20:03] <auronandace> guide_X: by default there is no xorg.conf but some graphics drivers do generate one
[20:03] <guide_X> Mishke: you can still use gnome shell in 12.10
[20:04] <Mishke> guide_X: i want use gnome 2
[20:04] <auronandace> Mishke: gnome2 is dead, move on
[20:04] <guide_X> I have a 11.04 with gnome 2 sitting around
[20:04] <Mishke> auronandace: gnome3 is dead too, but many users use this :)
[20:04] <auronandace> Mishke: no, gnome3 is actively developed
[20:05] <guide_X> bleh gnome3, bleh gnome shell ... gnome 2 :>
[20:05] <auronandace> guide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported
[20:05] <guide_X> I agree with mishke on this one
[20:05] <Mishke> auronandace: i dont like gnome3, he dead!
[20:05] <guide_X> yeah... it's the only one I know of is the only reason I mention it
[20:05] <auronandace> Mishke: then use something else
[20:05] <Mishke> its can be on develop, but its dead
[20:05] <Mishke> auronandace: gnome2!
[20:05] <Mishke> gnome2 is alive!
[20:06] <subcool> what folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?
[20:06] <auronandace> Mishke: stop being silly, there are others to choose from: kde, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[20:06] <guide_X> Mishke: according to this article, you can use gnome2 with 12.10 http://dijks.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/install-gnome-2-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[20:06] <guide_X> but I haven't tried it :>
[20:06] <zyngawow> does something connected to the internet always respond to pings?
[20:06] <Mishke> guide_X: now u using gnome2?
[20:06] <guide_X> on 11.04
[20:06] <auronandace> guide_X: that is a very bad idea
[20:07] <guide_X> I'm sure it is :>
[20:07] <guide_X> I have an 11.04 and a 12.10, on 12.10 I use unity and xfce, but on 11.04, I use gnome2
[20:07] <guide_X> the 11.04 I can't get rid of or replace
[20:07] <guide_X> it's just stuck the way it is forever
[20:08] <styler2go> Hello :)
[20:08] <styler2go> Can someone explain me what the yellow indicator mean? http://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/fw_conntrack-day.png
[20:08] <styler2go> what does "time_wait" exactly tell me?
[20:09] <guide_X> mishke wants to use gnome2 for the same reason why people hate windows8, because it's what they're used to I think..
[20:09] <guide_X> plus the gnome shell has some kind of weird flickering problem , at least for me
[20:09] <auronandace> guide_X: that doesn't change the fact that it is no longer supported here
[20:10] <guide_X> that's true
[20:10] <robert_me-5> Hello, annyone know how to configure Pidgin for facebook chat
[20:10] <Mishke> guide_X can i send PM you?
[20:11] <guide_X> hmm mishke my pm is currently broken
[20:11] <unborn> robert_me-5, me.. i use to have it.. once i had fb :)
[20:11] <guide_X> but I will join you in a vacant channel
[20:12] <bean__> styler2go: do you mean the "NATed" bit?
[20:12] <unborn> robert_me-5, its easy.. i have no facebook (fb) any more.. coz it is useless for me..
[20:12] <styler2go> i dont know what the "time_wait" mean...
[20:13] <robert_me-5> @unborn: Shut it
[20:13] <unborn> 20.12 styler2go
[20:13] <xangua> robert_me-5: add new account, facebook, enter your facebook username and password, done
[20:13] <styler2go> ?
[20:13] <unborn> robert_me-5, 1st of all you need to know your nickname* on facebook.. like facebook.com/yournickname
[20:14] <unborn> robert_me-5, once you have that you will use that as your username for login and your usual password.. as base or how it use to call type in /Home and press add.. and you done :)
[20:14] <bean__> styler2go: time_wait is orange, fwiw.
[20:14] <styler2go> yes but what does that mean...
[20:15] <bean__> styler2go: time wait means that it's waiting to close the connection
[20:15] <giiker> styler2go: if I not mistaken, it's just TCP connections
[20:15] <unborn> styler2go, that should be tpc connections..
[20:15] <bean__> yep.
[20:15] <styler2go> so everything is ok if this is high?
[20:15] <giiker> styler2go: if you have NFS somewhere it might be related to RPC TCP connections
[20:16] <bean__> as long as your firewall can handle that many connections, sure, that's fine
[20:16] <styler2go> ok cool thank you :)
[20:16] <styler2go> so much traffic today :D
[20:16] <robert_me-5> @unborn: well I think I have done what you are saying but it doesn't seem to be working hmmmm
[20:17] <unborn> styler2go, if that is your own server you may look at the logs.. what(who) is causing that tragic and may adjust your fw ;)
[20:17] <siert> this landscape thing; is there no such thing as manage <x> systems for free?
[20:17] <styler2go> Can you guys explain some more things? unborn: no, its ok that there are so many poeple
[20:18] <unborn> robert_me-5, this would be better perhaps.. please go here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/12527/easily-add-facebook-chat-to-pidgin/
[20:18] <unborn> i am using bittlebee heh sorry :)
[20:18] <bobka> Hi, how to mount usb thumbdrive to /media from installation CLI?
[20:19] <robert_me-5> @unborn: ok I'll check out your link thanks
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: sudo mount /dev/drive# /media/target
[20:21] <kurteknikk> Hi, simple question: how do i file a bug in ubuntu on Launchpad ?
[20:22] <kurteknikk> I click on "report a bug" and i end up in a 'how to page'
[20:22] <unborn> robert_me-5, they changed domain.. heh sorry about small mistake but this should work for you.. I am sorry but I dont have fb account anymore so I could not check it for ya
[20:22] <Injigo_> hello
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: what is the bug
[20:22] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, its a glitch :)
[20:22] <Injigo_> anyone here know about recovering partitions?
[20:22] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, system error or anomaly
[20:22] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: mysql 5.5.30 memory leak
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: do you think I am stupid? I said the bug, not a bug
[20:23] <Guest55550> I am having an issue installing Ubuntu, anyone want to let me know what I am doing wrong?
[20:23] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, what makes you think like that?
[20:24] <unborn> aha i see :)
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: quite frankly your condecinding tone
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: how are you trying to do it
[20:24] <bobka> @kurteknikk - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?
[20:24] <Guest55550> I don't have a cd drive, so I put it on my external hd and trying to boot up through that
[20:24] <Guest55550> I ran the installer, and have the file unpackaged on there.
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> what do you mean put it on? just copied the iso?
[20:25] <jCuber> Guest55550: USB devices are reset during the installation, aren't they?
[20:25] <TraN> so, again about this dual booting win8 and ubuntu; as I read it, the problem is if you have Secure Boot enabled, otherwise its supposed to work as it normally would, right?
[20:25] <Guest55550> No, I used the universal USB installer
[20:25] <kurteknikk> @bobka - i didn't reply to anything you said... not sure what the thks is for...
[20:25] <Guest55550> I am using win7
[20:25]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[20:25] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, i see.. well i can always go to debs channel.. i was just answering your question.. how ever you did ask what is bug.. that was my answer..
[20:25] <jCuber> Guest55550: So what exactly happens wrong?
[20:26] <maveas> Cinnamon on the Desktop, any takers?
[20:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: scroll up. I did not say is bug, I said is the bug
[20:26] <kurteknikk> @unborn / @ntzrmtthihu777... guys pls i'm answering a question
[20:26] <Guest55550> It will either say I don't have a valid device to boot through or just freeze
[20:26] <Injigo_> maveas: what do you mean?
[20:26]  * unborn guessing he kick me :D
[20:26] <unborn> kurteknikk, sure
[20:27] <Guest55550> When I go to the bios to tell it to load from my Toshiba HD it will show something CD and Removable Device as my two options.
[20:27] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, i know.. my apology
[20:27] <jCuber> Guest55550: Have you changed the boot order from your BIOS?
[20:27] <maveas> Injigo_: Anybody using it today? I might give it a try and I just wanted to hear other opinions first.
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: use unetbootin to set up the ubuntu on a flash stick, then install from that onto the external hdd
[20:27] <Dartellum> I did use Cinnamon until recently
[20:27] <Guest55550> Every time I boot it will ask ubuntu or windows. I have not done that, what order do I need to have?
[20:27] <jCuber> Guest55550: Removable device = USB drive
[20:27] <Injigo_> maveas: oh i gotcha, yeah i use it and it's quite nice, it's also maturing pretty nicely
[20:27] <maveas> Dartellum: Then you switched to??
[20:27] <Dartellum> something happened during an update and all the bars went whacky
[20:27] <Dartellum> went back to Unity
[20:28] <enroxorz-work> is there a way to replace rhythmbox with banshee under the sound menu?
[20:28] <maveas> Ok
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: and when you install grub to a device it autodetects windows and other linux distros
[20:28] <kurteknikk> my question is lost...
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: yeah, remove rhythmbox and install banshee
[20:28] <Dartellum> I have not tried reinstalling since updating to 12.04.2
[20:28] <subcool> what folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?
[20:28] <Guest55550> Ntzrmtthiu777: ? I am new to this, not quite sure what you mean.
[20:28] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777 - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?
[20:28] <enroxorz-work> thanks
[20:28] <Dartellum> I think 12.04.1 messed it up
[20:29] <matelko> Hi
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> you were supposed to insert your own valuse there
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: are you new to linux?
[20:29] <bobka> kurteknikk: oops! welcome just the same. : )
[20:30] <maveas> Thanks Dartellum  :)
[20:30] <kurteknikk> @bobka dw :)
[20:30] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  sorry for bugging, but now rhythmbox is gone under the sound menu but banshee has not replaced it. am i missing something? i went into Details and changed the default app...
[20:31] <bobka> not a beginner, but when an install fails.
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> wait
[20:31] <xangua> enroxorz-work: i believe you need to enable banshee sound menu on it's preferences
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: not a problem, I did this once before.
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> nevermind ntzrmtthihu777
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> i figured out what i did wrong
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: got it working?
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> yeah, had to open up banshee...im an idiot
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[20:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: your're not an idiot, you got off the windows hell hole so that is a smart move in my book
[20:32] <unborn> agree ^^
[20:32] <matelko> Hi. I am new to Ubuntu. I changed and formated my partitions after installing 12.1. Only system partition stays the same. Now I can not write files on my empty partitions. What can be wrong? Thank you.
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: the other partitions are likely owned by root
[20:34] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 when you have some time, let me know
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: run gksudo nautilus and see if you can create files in there that way
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: what is the issue?
[20:34] <matelko> ok, wait a sec please
[20:35] <unborn> matelko zdravim ta
[20:35] <unborn> :)
[20:35] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 as i said, i want to figure out how can i report a bug in ubuntu (bug found is for mysql 5.5.29 memory leak) but when i press report a bug, i end up in a "how to report a bug" page
[20:35]  * unborn speaks native language of your matelko :)
[20:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: not to be an ass, but that does not tell you how? Because other than that, I don't know. I just asked what was the bug so I can maybe tell you how to fix it, but mysql is beyond me
[20:36] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777- : yes, with gksudo I can write the files on partitions. How to fix it to be like that after system boot? thank you.
[20:36] <nfd> Hey folks, I've got a quick question.
[20:37] <nfd> I'm about to set up a box with FDE (probably with this method: https://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/
[20:37] <nfd> ).
[20:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: what you trying to do exactly?
[20:37] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 i understand that you think you're being an ass, i don't feel good ending up in that page but not figuring out how i can report a bug ! It's like describing everything apart from my "type of bug"
[20:38] <nfd> Someone mentioned some sort of tech that stores the keys in the cpu so they are immediately wiped upon shutdown, what was it called?
[20:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I'm sorry but I can not be much help in this. do you have a launchpad account?
[20:38] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  before I repartioned my disk, my old partitions was automatically mounted as rw after boot. But now not. I want them to mount rw automatically after boot.
[20:38] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?
[20:38] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 yes, and i reported a bug for innobackupex before and it was very simple, but strangely enough for ubuntu looks like much more complicated
[20:39] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 yes, that's the page i'm ending up in
[20:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: sudo chown $USER:$USER name-of-drive
[20:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I did not send you that, and its easier to just type ntz then tab
[20:40] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, what exactly was your question then? That has the steps to report a bug?
[20:40] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  do I need put that command after start every time 12.1 boots or just run it only once?
[20:40] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry my bad, btw i didn't know that trick, thanks :)
[20:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: np, I know my name is a pain to type
[20:41] <yusuf> hey
[20:41] <mcgraw1710> Okay, I am back. I was Guest555 something. I logged out so I could tell you exactly what I see
[20:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: that will change the ownershipt to you permanently, then you can set up automount by editing your fstab
[20:41] <kurteknikk> tgm4883: my question is how do i report a "memory leak type of bug", because they describe how to report a application crash, system crash etc... but can't find like a "simple way to report a bug" maybe there's not really one... maybe i do have to have the whole procedure to report a bug
[20:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: what was your problem, again
[20:42] <nfd> Also, if anyone knows how to set said software up, said knowledge would be appreciated.
[20:42] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: I can guide you through that
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Humor me: If I were to install OpenIndiana (a FOSS clone of Solaris) alongside Ubuntu, which should I install first?
[20:43] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: to be honest, since you were the only one replying, i just paste it and continue typing...
[20:43] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  ahh, right. Now I see. The ownership was the problem. Thank you for the help :-)
[20:43] <mcgraw1710> So when I boot up the PC I see 3 options, ATAPI CD-ROM, Removable Device, and my Computer Hard Drive. When I click on ubuntu to upload I get Try HD0, 0 : NTFS5 : No wubildr
[20:43] <puraki> pause
[20:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: you used wubi to install it?
[20:43] <mcgraw1710> Yeah
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> mcgraw1710: Did you install Ubuntu using Wubi?
[20:43] <nfd> Fun.
[20:44] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: openindiana overwrites the bootloader without warning, placing it's own grub there
[20:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: do you have available a usb stick
[20:44] <mcgraw1710> But I don't have a CD Drive on the netbook to burn the iso to, so I used the tool to extract it and use my external hd. I can look.
[20:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I just like helping ^^
[20:44] <mcgraw1710> will that work rather than my external hd?
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: Right. (It still uses GRUB legacy.) So it's better to do OpenIndiana first and then Ubuntu?
[20:44] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: Thanks
[20:45] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed
[20:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: Yes, using the usb stick would be the easiest way to do it
[20:45] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: sorry i got disconnected
[20:45] <mcgraw1710> okay. Do I just extract ubuntu to that like I did with my hard drive?
[20:45] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:46] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed
[20:46] <mcgraw1710> and what order do I need to put in the bios for boot?
[20:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: no, you need to go here http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and download the windows version
[20:46] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: yeah my only problem is where can i go to "add a new bug". If you can provide a leak it would be amazing
[20:46] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: i've been going through launchpad/ubuntu but couldn't find the stupid page
[20:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: using this tool you will "burn" the iso to the usb stick so you can boot from it and install ubuntu
[20:47] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, for mysql?
[20:47] <mcgraw1710> okay. I will try that. I will do that and then come back in here and let you know if it worked. Thanks Ntzrmtthihu777
[20:47] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: yes, for the mysql package in ubuntu..
[20:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcb_:
[20:48] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, Did you run 'ubuntu-bug mysql'? because that should open to the page you need
[20:48] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: you could also check to see if the upstream mysql has the same bug
[20:48] <asses> hello
[20:49] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: also just so you know many distros will begin transitioning to mariadb as a replacement for mysql
[20:49] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, but to do it manually, you could go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql/+filebug
[20:49] <bobka> I'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"? If yes, how? mou
[20:50] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: damn i'm so fkn stupid... first of all i saw the ubuntu-bug command but i thought i shouldn't use that for some reason
[20:50] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: second of all, how did you manage to get that link ??? i searched everywhere !
[20:50] <asses> how i can send a file
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> asses: send a file where
[20:51] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  truth be told ive been a linux user for ages, just switched over from fedora on this laptop. The UEFI SecureBoot crap was messing my installation. Also, honestly, I don't see all the hubbubb about unity. its a decent desktop UI.
[20:51] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, I figured out the link after I ran "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: gotta hate that
[20:51] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: i'm not sure what you mean by the 'upstream mysql'... i'm feeling a bit delayed this evening...
[20:51] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  Thank you very much for your help! My partitions are working like I wanted now.
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: I hates it
[20:52] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, for instance, running 'ubuntu-bug mythbuntu-common' takes you to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-common/+filebug/1526fa10-869f-11e2-94ce-0025b3df357a?
[20:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: just type ntz then tab, that highlights your message so i can notice it better
[20:52] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: btw i know that that's going to be a replacement, i've actually replaced it with mongodb but i still have a server running mysql which i have to maintain of course
[20:52] <asses> up
[20:52] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: if mysql has its own project page with a bug tracker you could look to see if it was reported there
[20:52] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah. really screwed me up BUT I've administered debian servers before and it's not all that different really. Just gotta get used to the UI is all. Also, this touchscreen laptop + gnu paint = ridiculously awesome amateur pornographic drawings.
[20:52] <matelko> ntzrmtthihu777,  thank you.
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: Yeah, I got a dell all in one with a pinguy os 12.04
[20:53] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: amazing, great thanks for you help, that's all i needed !
[20:53] <matelko> bye
[20:53] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: yeah i'm running version 5.5.29
[20:53] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  the best part is i no longer have to deal with balsamiq or pencil for my wireframing.
[20:54] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: i reported the bug, and they said to try 5.5.30 because they fixed some memory leaks in that version
[20:54] <Elshar> Hey, how would I find out what flags/arguments/etc a package was compiled with?
[20:54] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: so even if it doesn't fix my issue, they still fixed other memory leaks, so i think it's important to be updated as a package in ubuntu
[20:54] <Elshar> I want to recompile nagios with some customizations, but I don't want to totally bork my existing install from the apt repo
[20:55] <SuperLag> I'm using Xubuntu, and I've got a dual-head setup. I'm trying to get the display settings to be stored, so that when I boot, I have spanning configured, and not mirroring. However, every time I have to reboot, it reverts to mirroring.
[20:55] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: good work on reporting
[20:55] <SuperLag> How do I get that to persist?
[20:57] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: thanks, usually i don't have enough time to contribute to developing projects, but i try to do my best in bug reporting
[20:58] <glauco291> guys,  I am on ubuntu 12.04, I have plugged my new monitor full hd, but ubuntu just show up to 1360x768 of resolution, I just finished to install ATI driver for my video card and rebooted, but I still cannot change to 1920x1080
[20:59] <tijs> type xrandr
[20:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> glauco291: check system tools > administration > Catalyst Control Center (as root)
[20:59] <tijs> what sizes are there?
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: One more thing: If I install Ubuntu after OI, then, will the GRUB that OI has be replaced with GRUB2 or will I have to chainload the GRUB legacy?
[21:00] <glauco291> how can I open "system tools" it does not appear in dash
[21:00] <glauco291> ntzrmtthihu777: ^
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> oop, lol you are using unity
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, seach for control center
[21:00] <tijs> he means using gnome2
[21:00] <tijs> XD
[21:01] <glauco291> do you wanna mean system settings ntzrmtthihu777?
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> tijs: hey gnome2 whips the shit outta unity. I know where any program I want is, and I don't have to search a fickle dash
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> glauco291: no, I meant exactly what I said, I just was thinking of another de]
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> *de
[21:02] <xilo> i have some stuff like tmux and urxvtd and my xresources sourced on login... how do i do this
[21:02] <IdleOne> !language | ntzrmtthihu777
[21:02] <tijs> haha I understand that
[21:02] <vman> i have a problem with ssh after setting up an ssh tunnel, can anyone help?
[21:02] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, you'll need to chainload openindiana's grub (because of zfs i think)
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, probably not  worth doing then... esp since OI lacks WPA2 Enterprise support @ this time. Thx anyway
[21:03] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: unless you simply want to use openindiana's grub instead
[21:04] <glauco291> I am finding "control center" either "administration" either "catalyst"
[21:04] <glauco291> I am not** finding...
[21:06] <glauco291> I make this way: system settings -> additional drivers > I selected ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics card and clicked in "activate", now it's downloading something
[21:06] <glauco291> I made*
[21:08] <Elshar> awesome, I found the build log for the package, and was able to find the --configure line :D
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, lost connection.
[21:12] <Guest50689> hi
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> if anyone was talking to me about an issue please repeat your last statement
[21:12] <Guest50689> i need some advice
[21:12] <Guest50689> to start programming ubuntu
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> programming what
[21:13] <puraki> programming language?
[21:14] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> help? installation mount issue. :)
[21:14] <Guest50689> yes
[21:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: refresh me, I have been tackling alot of people's issues
[21:14] <bobka> I'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"?
[21:15] <puraki> I have an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS system on VirtualBox 4.1.4 on Windows 7 64-bit.
[21:15] <bobka> mount fails
[21:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, first off what device name does your usb stick have? for example sda1, sdb, etc
[21:15] <puraki> When I click on the Unity dash, the dash doesn't fade in.
[21:16] <Novus> did you connect to the internet via lan first?
[21:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: you cannot expect full performance under vbox under vbox
[21:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> *vbox under windows7
[21:16] <Novus> i had that problem with ubuntu 9 I had to connect to lan frist and get updates to tuen wifi on
[21:17] <Novus> the updates may also contain drivers for your card too
[21:17] <Novus> i think it was a hacking thing they didn't want to be appart of or something
[21:18] <Novus> that work for you?
[21:19] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> assume /dev/sda but would like to confirm. lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:6533
[21:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> /dev/sda is usually /
[21:19] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: sda is the disk, not a partition
[21:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: in either case its not the one we are looking for, don't get pedantic
[21:20] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> thks, how do I find it?
[21:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how many hdd's and/or usb sticks do you have?
[21:21] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670
[21:21] <auronandace> bobka: launch gparted and identify them
[21:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: did you not listen? he is using ubuntu server, no gui
[21:22] <lantizia> Hey on older ubuntu's for a quick speed up you could swap from compiz to metacity with metacity --replace & but if you run that now although it works - unity dissapears - without logging out, how can it stil be achieved>?
[21:22] <tasslehoff> I'm sharing a folder with samba. Inside that folder I have an encfs-mountpoint. That one is not visible for people mounting the samba share. I want it to be. Can I?
[21:22] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: apologies
[21:22] <bobka> I'm working from the install CLI, no gparted
[21:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> lantizia: unity is a compiz plugin, you cannot have it without compiz
[21:22] <auronandace> bobka: try parted instead then
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: why use software when logic would do it?
[21:23] <bobka> not found
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how many hdd and usb sticks are currently connected
[21:23] <auronandace> bobka: sudo fdisk -l
[21:24] <ozhanozen> hella
[21:25] <ozhanozen> How can i install a program in a tar.gz file?
[21:25] <ozhanozen> there is no install file in it
[21:25] <auronandace> ozhanozen: normally you don't, compiling should usually be the last resort
[21:25] <bobka> one mirrored raid, 3 usb. stick is (lsusb) Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:6533
[21:25] <auronandace> !software | ozhanozen
[21:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just give me a list lol
[21:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: I could have your answer in 5 minutes if you would listen and ignore auronandace
[21:26] <styler2go> hello guys. my server is under very high load right now and i dont know if i have misconfigured something so that it could have much more load.. can someone help me?
[21:26] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> lol
[21:26] <aevin_> hello #ubuntu, i have a problem with some /dev/sdxx nodes missing how do I troubleshoot?
[21:27] <pa> question: i read that in 12.04LTS i could tag files in nautilus
[21:27] <pa> but in 12.10 i cant find the option. how's that?
[21:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how. many. drives.
[21:27] <auronandace> bobka: do you get any output from: sudo fdisk -l
[21:28] <ozhanozen> I need to install kompozer v0.8 . How can i install it? it doesnt have a .deb
[21:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: because quantal is precise's retarded cousin
[21:28] <styler2go> http://snag.gy/sDYnO.jpg this is how "top" looks like and i dont know why its never 100%... is there something i am misisng?
[21:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> ozhanozen: sudo apt-get komposer does not do it?
[21:28] <aevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/
[21:28] <aevin_> but no /dev/sdc1 node exists
[21:29] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> one HW mirrored raid (2 drives) 3 usb - wireless nic, kb, stick.
[21:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> styler2go: that is because linux is more efficent than windows
[21:29] <aevin_> and dmesg says there is no partition table: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591501
[21:29] <styler2go> so?
[21:29] <styler2go> it is under max load but is never 100%?
[21:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just storage devices, not devices
[21:30] <Guest97010> hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd?
[21:30] <bean__> styler2go: hit "1" on top and it will show cores
[21:30] <bobka> auronandace> no root needed in install, no fdisk either.
[21:31] <styler2go> 1?
[21:31] <bean__> styler2go: as in, hit the number one, inside of your top terminal
[21:31] <bean__> and it will show the % per core.
[21:31] <styler2go> yes
[21:31] <bean__> styler2go: and those #'s do add up to 100%
[21:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: auronandace is wasting your time.
[21:31] <auronandace> bobka: no fdisk? fdisk is installed by default in all ubuntu versions
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: if you only have 2 hdd + the usb stick then it must be either sda, sdb, or sdc. I am guessing sdc.
[21:32] <donavan01> is it possible to set ubuntu up so that it will install and boot to a software raid array
[21:32] <styler2go> http://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html what do you think baout these loads? are they ok or very bad?
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> try sudo mkdir /media/usb
[21:32] <bean__> styler2go: it depends on how many cores you have
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: then sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/usb
[21:33] <bobka> auronandace> r u trolling? i'm in install!!
[21:33] <styler2go> i cant see any core number
[21:33] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: you mount partitions, not whole devices
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: and it will show you how many cores you have
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: whatever
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: it sounds like you're in a bit over your head :\
[21:33] <styler2go> 2ghz... 6 cores
[21:34] <styler2go> bit over my head?
[21:34] <auronandace> bobka: my apologies, i thought it was there
[21:34] <bean__> styler2go: as in, you don't know much about doing this sort of things.
[21:34] <styler2go> yes
[21:35] <auronandace> bobka: it's on my 12.10
[21:35] <styler2go> i would buy a better server but i dont think i am using every performance this server could give me
[21:35] <bean__> styler2go: a load average of 12 would be fine on your server and it looks like you never go over 1.5
[21:35] <bean__> styler2go: what do you need a server for anyways
[21:35] <styler2go> android app
[21:35] <jxshxx> Stuck trying to install 12.04 with XP.  Need help making a partition for Ubuntu and have a dual boot.
[21:36] <bean__> styler2go: I do mine on a shared hosting box, not very expensive
[21:36] <styler2go> about 300-400 users right now at the same time...
[21:36] <k1l_> jxshxx: just install win xp. then shrink the win partition and make 2 or 3 new one for ubuntu
[21:36] <bean__> hmm
[21:36] <bean__> thats really not bad then
[21:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: the installer will walk you through it, its easy
[21:36] <styler2go> can i do anything to make my server faster?
[21:36] <styler2go> or is there no way?
[21:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> styler2go: get better hardware
[21:38] <styler2go> so there is no other way? :D
[21:38] <bean__> styler2go: you're not high load, it's likely not your server that is slow
[21:38] <styler2go> hmm
[21:38] <aevin_> hey all... i have a problem mounting my ntfs drive in ubuntu 12.04.  The kernek doesn't find the proper partition table
[21:38] <styler2go> are you sure?
[21:38] <aevin_> kernel*
[21:39] <auronandace> styler2go: your top output shows over 40% cpu idle
[21:39] <styler2go> Load Average	0.92, 1.38, 1.37
[21:39] <Guest97010> hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd? (playing without stopping al the time)
[21:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest97010: what do you need a command for? use an gui app unless you are on server or something
[21:40] <pa> ntzrmtthihu777, now it's clear :)
[21:40] <Guest97010> ntzrmtthihu777: in crontab
[21:40] <styler2go> my complete android app is lagging so hard
[21:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest97010: gotcha. let me see about it
[21:40] <styler2go> this morning: one seocnd loading, now: much more than 30 seconds
[21:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> i think I got it, do you intend to have the cd always in the drive?
[21:41] <styler2go> now it tells me: Load Average	1.27, 1.42, 1.39
[21:41] <Guest97010> almost
[21:42] <jxshxx> The installer USED to be easy, and walked you through a slider for partition size.  Now, I get 2 options 1- Use the whole disc or 2 - "Something else", which takes me to a NOT easy page where I am apparently supposed to make a new partition table.
[21:42] <Guest97010> ntzrmtthihu777: i want to make a alarmcloc and then put a certain CD into it the evening before
[21:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> something like mount then for i in {1..100}; do mplayer /path/to/track1 && /path/to/track2; done and so on so on so forth
[21:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: you ever just considered using a virtual box
[21:44] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes, but this isn't the right situation for it.
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: what is the situation, then?
[21:44] <Ben64> Guest97010: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: will that keep playing?
[21:44] <Ben64> it should
[21:45] <Ben64> also, the "at" command is handy for alarm clock stuff, Guest97010
[21:45] <Guest97010> Ben64, ntzrmtthihu777: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda:// is stopping every second
[21:45] <Ben64> every second?
[21:45] <Ben64> you're doing something wrong
[21:45] <Guest97010> Ben64: yes,
[21:45] <bean__> styler2go: you dont understand what load average means
[21:45] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: Must maintain XP on an old lappy, dual boot, prove to the owner Linux will work better, THEN install on the whole disc :)
[21:46] <Guest97010> i just pasted the comand ...
[21:46] <bean__> styler2go: since you have 6 cores, you could use up to 6.0 load average before it is bad
[21:46] <styler2go> bean__, i think i dont..
[21:46] <bean__> and even then a load of 12 would be okay
[21:46] <styler2go> maybe i have only one core
[21:46] <styler2go> it is a vserver
[21:46] <styler2go> mayb ewlimited to one
[21:46] <styler2go> maybe limited*
[21:46] <bean__> well, what company did you get it through
[21:47] <bean__> /what are you paying for
[21:47] <styler2go> 12€/month
[21:47] <Guest97010> ben64: i just pasted the comand ...
[21:48] <bean__> styler2go: no, i mean, what "plan"
[21:48] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't understand where the "Install alongside" option went in the installer menu.  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[21:48] <styler2go> wait a second, bean__  ...
[21:48] <nicf> Quick question about the installer: I have Windows 8 on this new laptop I'm on, and it came with a couple recovery partitions on it in addition to the big partition Windows is on. If I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8," can I be sure that it will definitely only mess with the big partition?
[21:48] <styler2go> the site is not available in english...
[21:48] <Guest97010> Ben64: i just pasted the comand ... with parole etc. it works. so the hardware should at least be capable of it :-D
[21:48] <bean__> styler2go: it's okay, i can translate. I speak a bit of german
[21:48] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> no sdc. had to mkdir /media/usb. mount /dev/sdb /media/usb failed : Invalid argument -> (just like the installer.)
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> what a pain.
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777>  try cd /media
[21:49] <Ben64> Guest97010: then add -cache 4096
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> then ls
[21:49] <nicf> The sizes seem to add up right but I'm nervous about doing something irreversible.
[21:49] <styler2go> https://www.hosteurope.de/Server/Virtual-Server/Virtual-Server-L/
[21:49] <bobka> I assume I can't see file on stick until its mounted?
[21:50] <bean__> styler2go: okay, that doesn't tell me how many virtual cores
[21:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just see what is inside of /media
[21:50] <styler2go> yes, there are no more informations
[21:50] <styler2go> only the xxl server uses dedicated cores
[21:51] <bobka> usb
[21:51] <bean__> styler2go: oh, you have XXL
[21:51] <styler2go> no i dont habe
[21:51] <Guest97010> Ben64: still :-S the first time was 2 seconds
[21:51] <styler2go> i just said only xxl uses dedicated cores...
[21:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: well, this is getting to be a pain
[21:51] <Guest97010> Ben64: Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[21:51] <Ben64> Guest97010: then go crazy. -cache 16384
[21:51] <bobka> nothing in usb, though. :(
[21:51] <bean__> styler2go: okay, so you have the L, then you have a small amount of CPU, you would seriously be better off on shared hosting
[21:52] <styler2go> shared hosting? like amazon c3?
[21:52] <Guest97010> Ben64: Cache not responding! [performance issue]
[21:52] <auronandace> bobka: you don't mount devices (sdb), you mount partitions (sdb1)
[21:52] <bobka> LOL Welcome to my nightmare!
[21:52] <bean__> styler2go: no
[21:52] <Ben64> Guest97010: are you running it on a toaster?
[21:52] <bean__> styler2go: does this do anything other than have a webserver and a database
[21:52] <styler2go> what do you mean?
[21:53] <Guest97010> Ben64: the laptop is from 2006 or newer, designed for vista
[21:53] <bean__> styler2go: i mean on some shared hosting provider.  You also may consider paying for more resources.  Theres not much that can be done for a cheap VPS like that
[21:53] <styler2go> whats a shared hosting provider? :o
[21:54] <Ben64> Guest97010: well keep adjusting cache till it works
[21:54] <bobka> auronandace> I'll bite. brb...
[21:54] <bean__> styler2go: like a thing where its a big server, with many other people on it.
[21:54] <Guest97010> Ben64: does it make sence with "Cache not responding! [performance issue]" ?
[21:54] <bean__> styler2go: what software runs your app
[21:54] <n0aG0re> I'm having problems keeping login passwords and proprietary drivers persistant on my persistant usb. Anyone here that can help?
[21:55] <Ben64> Guest97010: never seen that
[21:55] <styler2go> you mean serverside or what my app is fore?
[21:55] <aevin_> i'm unable to mount my 3TB ntfs drive.  Anyone here that can help?
[21:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: do you have lynx installed?
[21:55] <Guest97010> Ben64: perhaps i have to stay at the bad mp3s :-S and creating new playlists if i want another CD
[21:56] <bobka> auronandace> THANKS!
[21:56] <Ben64> Guest97010: why are mp3s bad?
[21:56] <bean__> styler2go: server side
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: lesser quality of sound at times
[21:56] <styler2go> its php and mysql
[21:56] <auronandace> bobka: is sdb your usb then?
[21:56] <Guest97010> Ben64: becourse they are from youtube -live, bad upload quality etc.
[21:56] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: not noticeable at high bitrate
[21:57] <bean__> styler2go: yeah, not very heavy weight. You might try optimizing your mysql database though
[21:57] <Ben64> Guest97010: why not rip your cds then?
[21:57] <bobka> step 1 - mount file complete.
[21:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: I said at times. perhaps his are not high.
[21:57] <styler2go> i already did :)
[21:57] <styler2go> show process wont show anything executing long
[21:57] <bobka> auronandace>  yeah
[21:57] <auronandace> bobka: goody
[21:57] <Guest97010> Ben64: have to find out how etc.
[21:57] <warfaren> i want to add a boot parameter to "kopt" in /boot/grub/menu.lst but i don't have that file. i'm running ubuntu 10.04
[21:57] <warfaren> i assume it's a newer version of grub that has the file somewhere else, so where do i add it in?
[21:57] <Ben64> Guest97010: k3b can
[21:58] <auronandace> !grub2 | warfaren
[21:58] <bean__> styler2go: looks like plenty of free memory too, its a native android app on the frontend too, yeah?
[21:58] <warfaren> it's grub2? because i'm quite sure it says 1.98 when im booting
[21:58] <auronandace> warfaren: yeah, thats grub2
[21:58] <warfaren> oh, i thought it would be 2.something
[21:59] <styler2go> whats native for you? its mostly java, only the chat (which seems to cause the heavy load) is html + ajax
[21:59] <auronandace> warfaren: i don't understand gnu's numbering either
[21:59] <Guest97010> Ben64: also have a comuter with xp and mediaplayer ... but then i still have to make the playlist every time and replace the old one instead of just putting another CD into it
[21:59] <warfaren> alright..
[21:59] <aevin_> Why would the kernel in 12.04 not be able to detect a partition but Windows can?
[21:59] <bean__> styler2go: native means java. The HTML + ajax will likely always be slow.
[22:00] <bean__> styler2go: cell networks are pretty slow
[22:00] <Ben64> aevin_: kernels don't detect partitions
[22:00] <styler2go> its only laggy right now
[22:00] <coder2> what is channel for dev?
[22:00] <styler2go> on normal days the server is completly ok
[22:00] <warfaren> auronandace: those links had nothing on "kopt", so i need to edit something under /etc/grub.d/ ? i've looked there and it was messy
[22:01] <bobka> Thnks for the help all. I'm going to copy rt73.bin to lib/firmware, umount usb, and backup the install to 'detect network hardware.'
[22:01] <aevin_> Ben64: what detects partitions?  i see messages in dmesg... i thought that was the kernel's log?
[22:01] <bean__> styler2go: i dont know that I can really help you, you might want to pay for a better server.
[22:01] <styler2go> the problem is
[22:01] <Ben64> aevin_: its complicated, whats your problem?
[22:01] <styler2go> i dont know how its called in english
[22:02] <styler2go> the server only have very high load an specific days and hours
[22:02] <bean__> styler2go: that is common with many servers.
[22:02] <bean__> styler2go: and 1-4 ish load isn't super high
[22:02] <styler2go> most time the server is bored :D
[22:02] <ozhanozen> hey
[22:02] <warfaren> aha, found it. thanks for making me understand that i'm running grub2 and not grub1, that helped me a long way
[22:02] <ozhanozen> how can i install kompozer on ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[22:02] <ozhanozen> please help
[22:02] <aevin_> Ben64: I have a 3TB internal sata drive that has a gpt partition table and a single ntfs partition. fdisk shows the partition as /dev/sdc1 but there is no /dev/sdc1 node
[22:03] <styler2go> it is showing me a red ! on the left of the load
[22:03] <AnotherPersona> Hello! I am trying to install a ros (robot operating system) package and it apparently depends on an old version of boost
[22:03] <bean__> styler2go: yeah, so only slow when many people are connecting. Have you looked at the your apache max processes? and your max connections for mysql?
[22:03] <AnotherPersona> so I get a bunch of unmet dependencies
[22:03] <styler2go> bean__, now its Load Average	2.17, 2.08, 1.84
[22:03] <aevin_> Ben64: without the device node I can't mount it
[22:03] <bean__> styler2go: thats still not very high
[22:03] <Ben64> ozhanozen: sudo apt-get install kompozer
[22:03] <rats_> ozhanozen: have you checked to see if Kompozer is in the repos
[22:04] <Ben64> aevin_: check in gparted or parted, fdisk doesn't do gpt
[22:04] <styler2go> bit why is there a red ! then?
[22:04] <AnotherPersona> can anyone suggest how to 'fake out' the package to use the newer version of boost? or something
[22:04] <bean__> styler2go: i have a 4 core server that loads sites just fine up to about a load of 20.
[22:04] <styler2go> maybe my vserver is limited to that load?
[22:04] <rats_> that should work too
[22:04] <bean__> styler2go: it very well could be.
[22:05] <aevin_> Ben64: parted /dev/sdc print says: Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
[22:05] <styler2go> bean__, i found something: http://snag.gy/DR4uh.jpg
[22:05] <Ben64> aevin_: thats not good
[22:06] <bean__> styler2go: so 1 cpu. so a load of 2 is going to start feeling the pain
[22:06] <bean__> styler2go: i suggest you upgrade
[22:06] <aevin_> Ben64: indeed. the drive works fine in windows
[22:06] <styler2go> Load Average	2.4, 2.41, 2.02
[22:06] <styler2go> uhm
[22:07] <aevin_> Ben64: Also a similar line in dmesg: [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table
[22:08] <styler2go> bean__, i would just need a better cpu, right?
[22:08] <bean__> styler2go: probably.
[22:08] <Ben64> aevin_: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdc
[22:08] <styler2go> i will write a ticket if they can do anything for me
[22:09] <styler2go> i dont need more than 50gh storage.. and 2gb ram
[22:10] <Juanito_Fulencia> what line should i add to "/etc/default/grub" to remove the entry for testing ram for the list?
[22:10] <styler2go> bean__, thank you for your help!
[22:10] <bean__> np, styler2go
[22:10] <aevin_> Ben64: Package gdisk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:10] <Juanito_Fulencia> google was not exactly friendly with me in the matter.
[22:10] <aevin_> Ben64: E: Package 'gdisk' has no installation candidate
[22:11] <Ben64> aevin_: uh, what version of ubuntu are you on
[22:11] <aevin_> 12.04
[22:11] <Ben64> !info gdisk precise
[22:11] <Ben64> its there
[22:11] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777 & auronandace> FYI - install picked up the wireless NIC. Now I have a netwoked server. Thanks!
[22:12] <bobka> *networked
[22:12] <aevin_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591633/
[22:12] <Soundman> Irc gnu community is bigger than i expected O.o nice to know, ill have some fun when @work
[22:12] <aevin_> Ben64: I'm booted into a liveusb
[22:13] <Ben64> oh..
[22:13] <Ben64> why
[22:13] <Ben64> and it should still work there
[22:13] <aevin_> because this machine needs to dual boot into windows
[22:13] <auronandace> !yay | bobka
[22:14] <aevin_> and without working disks... liveusb is safest option just now
[22:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you use the ubuntu version of unetbootin to install to hdd
[22:16] <art1> is there a list of devices that are compatible with 12.04?
[22:17] <auronandace> !hcl | art1
[22:20] <art1> I'm only curios cuz when looking at say newegg.com, devices are listed with windows and MacOS but don't say anything about linux
[22:21] <Soundman> On Ubuntu official site should be list like u are searching for
[22:22] <fidel> apart from that list - i almost never had issues installing ubuntu on whatever x86 hardware
[22:23] <Soundman> Cause?
[22:23] <fidel> so in general it usualy works - with minor issues - but usualy you'll be able to find workarounds & fixes for those isses. generaly spoken
[22:23] <Soundman> general i hadnt any problems too at all
[22:24] <art1> kk, ty
[22:25] <Soundman> By the way, have anybody any ideas to make lxde faster at all ? On netbook what im using at work it still sloooowww
[22:25] <Soundman> 12.04 on atom and 1gb ram isnt to fast.
[22:26] <pwarf> Hey guys, I've got a question. I keep trying to install 12.04 alongside windows with the downloader from Ubuntu
[22:26] <pwarf> And, it keeps giving me the "uncompression failed, system halted" error
[22:27] <Soundman> Try to download iso file and use unetbotin
[22:27] <bobka> Once this install is complete, I'll be back. The display I'm forced to use is ancient (1991 - pre-VESA2). I've good in Knoppix Live-CD, but my grub kung-fu is weak.
[22:32] <gp5st> Sorry if this isn't the place #openssl is pretty dead and I thought someone here might be knowledgeable. When an SSL/X.509 certificate is renewed, e.g. before it expires, does the fingerprint of the certificate stay the same? Does one need to use the same csr as the first time to get the same fingerprint? Will the fingerprint always change.  Is there any identifier based solely on the key itself?
[22:33] <k1l_> gp5st: if you know its offtopic better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic from the start
[22:35] <gp5st> k1l_: it's not relevant to ubuntu specifically, but its still related to sysadmining, so I didn't think I would be breaking the spirit of the channel
[22:43] <xilo> how do i get any de/wm  .xinit or similar on gnome3 to get run?
[22:50] <XSevenX> Hello.
[22:50] <XSevenX> I finally have a copy of Windows 7 and I'm looking to install it
[22:50] <XSevenX> how can I clear my hard drive of all data to make a fresh installation of this OS?
[22:51] <tgm4883> !windows | XSevenX
[22:51] <XSevenX> tgm4883 this has nothing to do with Windows
[22:51] <XSevenX> I want to completely clear my hard drive
[22:51] <aevin_> Ben64: I got gdisk working http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[22:51] <tgm4883> XSevenX, so?
[22:52] <tgm4883> XSevenX, installing windows does completely wipe the hard drive
[22:52] <XSevenX> and I doubt the #windows IRC will tell me how to remove Linux software within Linux, smart ass.
[22:52] <tgm4883> XSevenX, just install windows. It will wipe the hard drive
[22:53] <XSevenX> Okay, thanks.
[22:53] <IdleOne> XSevenX: mind the language and attitude please. To answer your question, put the windows CD and have it format the entire drive, more help in ##windows
[22:54] <deadweasel> can I reconnect my terminal to a process that has a CLI, but I don't have that window open anymore?
[22:55] <aevin_> Why can't I mount this disk? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[22:55] <IboS> deadweasel use screen ?
[22:55] <deadweasel> i am.
[22:55] <hector__> anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?
[22:55] <hector__> I tried all likely names
[22:55] <hector__> or many
[22:55] <deadweasel> IboS: I'll double check see if I missed it in screen -ls
[22:56] <IboS> deadweasel screen -r to reattach
[22:56] <hector__> anyone knows of a 3d modelling group?
[22:56] <hector__> my channels window freezes every time, so I cant search
[22:57] <deadweasel> IboS: yup, I missed it, just had to specifically reconnect to it.
[22:57] <deadweasel> i thought screen -RR reconnected all possibles?
[22:57] <aevin_> Why can't I mount my 3TB SATA ntfs disk in 12.04?
[22:58] <Eric_> help
[22:58] <Eric_> im trying to upgrade from9.04 to a newer release
[22:59] <Eric_>  can someone please help
[23:00] <hector__> anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?
[23:00] <LargePrime> hello.  I have a hosted ubuntu server that i would like a very light weight gui for.  connecting from a win machine
[23:01] <aevin_> i think i have discovered a bug in Ubuntu
[23:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> LargePrime: I hear xfce is light
[23:01] <Lachesis> sgdisk or gdisk or gptfdisk or fdisk for creating a gpt partition table?
[23:01] <LargePrime> that is a full desktop, right?
[23:02] <LargePrime> and yes i hear linus has chosen that
[23:02] <LargePrime> I just want to remote in with a super light weight gui
[23:02] <tgm4883> !old | Eric_
[23:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> LargePrime: yeah, the whole #! from what I hear
[23:02] <nuno_nunes> Lachesis: the gparted works to GPT
[23:02] <tgm4883> hmm
[23:02] <tgm4883> !unsupported | Eric_
[23:03] <tgm4883> !oldreleases | Eric_
[23:03]  * tgm4883 googles
[23:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: he is trying to upgrade, geeze
[23:03] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, yes, and there are instructions for upgrading from old unsupported releases
[23:04] <kalenjohnson> I have a lightdm.log file that has jumped up to 60gb... anyone heard of that?
[23:04] <aevin_> hey all. what do i do if i think i've found a kernel bug?
[23:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Eric_: may as well just do a fresh install, hope you used a separate /home partition, because quite frankly upgrading in-install bites
[23:04] <tgm4883> !EOL
[23:05] <tgm4883> !EOL | ntzrmtthihu777 Eric_
[23:06] <tgm4883> oh, apparently he left before we started helping him
[23:06] <tgm4883> :/
[23:07] <aevin_> Can you help me instead? ;)
[23:07] <tgm4883> aevin_, did you file a bug report?
[23:07] <aevin_> I am very new to this so want to be sure I'm not just doing something wrong...
[23:08] <k1l_> !bug | aevin_
[23:08] <tgm4883> aevin_, so whats going on
[23:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: don'tcha point that at me
[23:08] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, just showing you what I was looking for
[23:09] <aevin_> tgm4883: i have a system with a 3tb sata drive connected internally.  the drive it gpt and has a single ntfs partition.  windows sees the drive without problems, ubuntu doesn't
[23:09] <aevin_> tgm4883: fdisk shows the partition, gdisk does not
[23:10] <tgm4883> aevin_, sounds like you need to install the ntfs stuff i guess
[23:10] <tgm4883> !ntfs | aevin_
[23:11] <maxb> #ubuntu-devel
[23:11] <maxb> oops
[23:11] <aevin_> tgm4883: no. ntfs-3g is installed but it wouldn't metter if it wasn't as gdisk doesn't even see a partition
[23:12] <tgm4883> aevin_, not sure, I don't have any NTFS drives that large
[23:12] <aevin_> tgm4883: output of gdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[23:12] <aevin_> tgm4883: and output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591501/
[23:13] <aevin_> tgm4883: line 810 is interesting [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table
[23:13] <aevin_> tgm4883: but fdisk (which I understand doesn't support gpt) can see the partition: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/
[23:14] <aevin_> all very odd
[23:15] <tgm4883> aevin_, a quick search shows people have that drive working in ubuntu
[23:15] <tgm4883> aevin_, is that an internal drive, or did you stick it in an enclosure?
[23:16] <bekks> aevin_: Create a valid partition table, done.
[23:16] <aevin_> tgm4883: internal on the SB700 southbridge of my motherboard
[23:16] <tgm4883> aevin_, is there anything on the drive?
[23:17] <aevin_> bekks: windows thinks there is a valid partition table
[23:18] <aevin_> tgm4883: yes - lots of data that I need to keep.  if it was an empty drive i'd have put ext3/4 on it already
[23:19] <bekks> aevin_: use parted instead of fdisk to view the partition table.
[23:19] <tgm4883> aevin_, what version of ubuntu
[23:19] <aevin_> bejjs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591766/
[23:19] <aevin_> sorry... bekks*
[23:20] <jhutchins_wk> aevin_: Do you have ntfs3g installed?
[23:20] <aevin_> tgm4883: 12.04
[23:20] <kalenjohnson> so apparently lightdm.log grew to 60gb because I was under a brute force attack. Fun!
[23:20] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: ntfs3g will nbot help at all at this point determining the partitions on that drive
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Perhaps we are getting lost in unnecessary details if he just wants to use the drive.
[23:21] <aevin_> jhutchins_wk: ntfs-3g 2012.1.15AR.5 external FUSE 29 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
[23:21] <tgm4883> jhutchins_wk, ntfs3g is for write support, not read
[23:21] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: So you intend to say that there might be a fs on the entire disk, instead in a partition.
[23:22] <aevin_> windows reports that there is a small amount of "reserved" space at the beginning of the disk and then the remainder is a single partition of aprox 2.7TiB
[23:23] <aevin_> this is a gpt disk
[23:24] <tgm4883> aevin_, you said 'gdisk -l /dev/sdc' doesn't see it at all?
[23:25] <Bray90820> can anyone help me add ubuntu to my grub meny
[23:25] <Bray90820> menu
[23:25] <aevin_> tgm4883: gdisk sees the disk but no partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[23:25] <Ben64> aevin_: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc count=1024 of=/dev/shm/sdc; file /dev/shm/sdc
[23:25] <tole> wenas
[23:26] <aevin_> Ben64: what does that command do?
[23:26] <bekks> Interesting approach - using /dev/shm :)
[23:26] <Ben64> copies the first 524288 bytes to /dev/shm and has file examine it
[23:26] <aevin_> ben64: and what is /dev/shm?
[23:26] <Ben64> bekks: it'll go away by itself on reboot :)
[23:27] <Ben64> aevin_: ram space
[23:27] <aevin_> ok...
[23:27] <aevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591779/
[23:28] <osolus> I need to cram a live cd with support for a very old wireless pci card from netgear that will also fit on a rewritable 709mb cd. Where should I look.
[23:28] <kalenjohnson> osolus, are you talking Ubuntu specific?
[23:28] <packetfrog> I did a sudo apt-get remove compiz   and purge     and now I cant reinstall do to broken packages   how do I fix this?  I tried -f install   and synaptic
[23:29] <osolus> kalenjohnson: no, anything will do.
[23:29] <xilo> is there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?
[23:29] <Ben64> aevin_: i dunno, windows must do weird gpt stuff
[23:29] <elisa87> do you know what I should do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591784/
[23:29] <kalenjohnson> osolus, Well I don't know about your specific driver compatibility... but there are lots of smaller distros. puppy linux, crunchbang, uhh... most anything with openbox
[23:29] <Bray90820> anyone wanna help me add ubuntu to a system that has ubuntu installed but to grub menu item for ubuntu
[23:30] <tgm4883> !grub | Bray90820
[23:30] <Bray90820> is ubottu a bot
[23:30] <aevin_> Ben64: Probably but I'm stuck with it for a while
[23:31] <Ben64> aevin_: would you be able to back up stuff and repartition the drive with good gpt?
[23:31] <Bray90820> tgm4883 i have two linux distros android and ubuntu but ubuntu is not listed
[23:31] <Bray90820> only android is
[23:32] <aevin_> Ben64: unfortunately it's the largest drive I have which makes doing a backup a bit of a mission
[23:32] <eduardo__> Hello!
[23:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes, she is a bot
[23:32] <eduardo__> I found a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965)
[23:32] <Bray90820> ok
[23:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so what is your problem
[23:33] <Bray90820> ubuntu is now shown in my grub menu
[23:33] <eduardo__> I'm with a problem caused by this bug! When I put the volume at 100% it is oscillating wildly!
[23:33] <Bray90820> i have 2 linux distros ubuntu and adroid
[23:34] <aevin_> So what's the concensus here? is this a bug, a duff drive or pilot error?
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so how is that a problem?
[23:34] <Bray90820> ubuntu is not shown in my grub menu
[23:34] <Bray90820> enetho it's installed
[23:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh, you said now last time
[23:35] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i actually said it earlier but don't worry about it :p
[23:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, try booting a live ubuntu cd, adding the yannubuntu ppa and installing boot-repair and run it, it should fix you up in a jiffy
[23:36] <eduardo__> --'
[23:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i should note that android was what installed grub
[23:37] <Bray90820> 0.97
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: ubuntu uses grub1.99, so you should install that.
[23:38] <Bray90820> well that is actually installed just not active at the moment
[23:38] <Bray90820> i can use that
[23:38] <maveas> QUESTION Is it safe to BL bluetooth, bnep and rfcomm? I don't need bluetooth on my desktop. :)
[23:38] <Bray90820> but android doesn't show up in that menu
[23:38] <elisa87> why am I receiving this error? hg: unknown command 'qclone'
[23:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> boot-repair should sort you
[23:39] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 your saying android will be listen if i use boot repare?
[23:40] <Bray90820> i'll brb ping me if you wanna tell me something
[23:40] <Matt1435> Hello #ubuntu community.  I'm trying to install the OS for the first time, and have already run into issues.  I'm hoping someone can assist.
[23:41] <maveas> Matt1435: Just ask :)
[23:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: likely
[23:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: what install medium
[23:42] <Matt1435> installing the desktop LTS version onto a prentium 4 dell
[23:42] <Matt1435> *pentium
[23:42] <xilo> is there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: from cd or usb
[23:42] <Matt1435> cd
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: like a different terminal? or a different shell?
[23:42] <xilo> ntzrmtthihu777: a different terminal
[23:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: what is wrong
[23:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: do you want to use like xterm or something?
[23:43] <Matt1435> install worked fine and I can get to the login screen, but once I log in, I essentially have a blank background.  No top menu bar, no launcher on the left.  I can right click and create a file or folder, but that's it
[23:43] <xilo> i want to use urxvt but it doesn't create a shortcut icon or anything
[23:43] <Ben64> Matt1435: select "Ubuntu 2D" when logging in
[23:43] <Matt1435> tried that - same issue
[23:43] <Ben64> hmm
[23:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: run gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop
[23:44] <Matt1435> the computer is about 8 years old, but has 4gb of ram and an nvidia graphics card that's maybe 5 years old
[23:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: edit the line that says exec= to run whatever command launches the terminal you want
[23:44] <xilo> ah cool thanks
[23:44] <Matt1435> I assume that is sufficiently powerful
[23:45] <Ben64> Matt1435: you might want to try xfce or lxde
[23:45] <Matt1435> i tried reinstalling the OS a second time, but same issue
[23:45] <Matt1435> what are those?
[23:45] <Ben64> different desktop environments
[23:45] <aidencamo> Hello. I was wondering if anybody could answer a quick question I have about Wubi? My system is a Windows 8 system that was upgraded from Windows 7. If I use Wubi to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, would it use the Windows 8 bootloader or would it use grub?
[23:45] <Ben64> as opposed to unity, which the default ubuntu install is
[23:45] <elisa87> do  you know where Mercurial.ini is located? >?
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: differnt versions of ubuntu in essence. look for xubuntu or lubuntu
[23:46] <bcbc2> Matt1435: have you tried nomodeset?
[23:46] <Ben64> aidencamo: why would you do 10.04? 12.04 is out
[23:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 when i installed android next to ubuntu without installing the android grub i ran sudo update grub and android di not show up
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: I find lubuntu to be nice
[23:46] <Matt1435> bcbc2: i have not - what is nomodeset
[23:46] <bcbc2> aidencamo: Wubi uses the windows bootloader and grub
[23:46] <bcbc2> !nomodeset
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: because maybe he has reasons
[23:46] <aidencamo> Awesome. So if I install 10.04, it'll co-exist with Windows 8 nicely?
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: update grub or update-grub?
[23:47] <escott> aidencamo, probably not easily
[23:47] <Ben64> 10.04 is only supported for another month :|
[23:47] <Matt1435> ubottu: how can I change that parameter?  I can't even get the terminal screen to appear
[23:47] <Ben64> doesn't make any sense to install 10.04 anymore
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: at the grub menu hit e
[23:48] <bcbc2> Matt1435: check out that thread linked to.
[23:48] <Matt1435> grub menu?
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> then add nomodeset or whatever it is to the end
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, you did not see one as it booted? gives 4 choices by default
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: normal, recovery, and 2 memtests
[23:48] <bcbc2> Matt1435: hold down the Shift key when you boot and it will show the grub menu
[23:49] <Matt1435> ok, thanks
[23:49] <Matt1435> I will try this
[23:49] <Matt1435> thank you very much, everyone
[23:49] <Matt1435> much appreciated!
[23:49] <bobolopolis> elisa87: Mercurial.ini is the config file on Windows.  In Linux, it'll be .hgrc in your home directory.
[23:49] <aidencamo> My reasons for 10.04 are simple, 12.10 is nice, but my battery lasts about twenty minutes max. 10.04 feels slightly snappier and lighter on system resources. Even though my laptop is quad core, coupled with 6gb of ram and a pretty snappy GPU.
[23:49] <bcbc2> Matt1435: np
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: 12.04 is just as snappy if you don't use 3d unity
[23:50] <Guest43280> o
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: and like i said, 10.04 is only supported for another month, then you'll have to upgrade anyway
[23:50] <aidencamo> What's missing from 12.04 compared to 12.10?
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> aidencamo: yeah, re-install gnome-shell and it will look and feel just like 10.04, and be supported
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> aidencamo: a whole lotta fail
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: slightly newer versions of stuff?
[23:51] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i did sudo update-grub
[23:51] <Ben64> i always stick with LTS releases. less updating.
[23:51] <aidencamo> Right, will do. I heard that the kernal on 12.10 was quite shit compared to previous versions anyway. Thanks for your help.
[23:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> aidencamo: besides, 12.04 has 5-year support, where 12.10 only 1.5
[23:51] <Guest43280> does any 1 know how to hack into porn sites
[23:52] <Ben64> Guest43280: not appropriate for this channel
[23:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest43280: wth lol
[23:52] <Guest43280> fuck u and what is this channel 4
[23:52] <Guest43280> ?
[23:52] <steambox> Guest43280: pr0n hacks you, in .....
[23:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> wanna ops him
[23:53] <Ben64> Guest43280: watch the  language, and look at the topic
[23:53] <VanessaE> I got no answer in #xubuntu, so I'll try here:  I've just done a re-install of my system (getting ready for some hardware upgrades), and can no longer turn on RGB subpixel antialiasing without experiencing heavy color fringing.  What did I do wrong? (using Xubuntu Precise)
[23:53] <Guest43280> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:53] <Guest43280> hay whats ur guys ip address
[23:54] <Guest43280> hey
[23:54] <bekks> Guest43280: 127.0.0.1
[23:54] <Ben64> Guest43280: if you don't have a support question, please leave
[23:54] <Guest43280> noooooo i could hack all of u
[23:54] <Guest43280> do u want to c it
[23:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: he's a hard-ball, he aint goin nowhere on his own
[23:54] <dakotawulfy> hi
[23:55] <Guest43280>  u know what ur getting hacked
[23:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest43280: unlikely.
[23:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> if you can't even get into a porn site you def aint getting into my box
[23:55] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: don't feed the trolls
[23:55] <Guest43280> i was just kidding
[23:58] <VanessaE> anyone? :(
[23:58] <LovCAPONE> Q: NVidia GeForce GTS 250 supported by Linux Ubuntu? (In the NVidia driver list I didn't see it)
[23:58] <Ben64> LovCAPONE: yep
[23:58] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 when i was using the ubuntu grub with android installed i ran sudo update-grub and android didn't show up
[23:59] <LovCAPONE> Ben64: Thanks!
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, is the partition mounted?
[23:59] <Bray90820> the android partition?
[23:59] <bobolopolis> VanessaE: are you using a different video driver after the reinstall? otherwise, i have no idea
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yeah
[23:59] <VanessaE> bobolopolis: nope, same old driver as always.
[23:59] <VanessaE> (fglrx)