[00:42] <n-iCe> Ok, all installed :)
[00:42] <n-iCe> It is pretty fast
[00:57] <ner0x> Can anyone suggest a financial manager that can connect to your bank account and also allow you to attach scans/invoices to certain purchases?
[01:03] <n-iCe> ner0x: tryon ubuntu
[01:03] <ner0x> n-iCe: Did that. Nothing so far. I'll wait. :)
[01:04] <n-iCe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1574875
[01:34] <earthling_> I tried xubuntu on a usb and it seemed very laggy
[01:34] <earthling_> then I tried 10.04 ubuntu on usb and it was much snappier
[01:44] <David-A> earthling_: do you want to know if there is a difference when using different distros for xfce?
[01:46] <earthling_> David-A, yeah
[01:46] <earthling_> was wondering that
[01:49] <David-A> earthling_: sorry, then I dont understand the question :)
[01:50] <David-A> earthling_: things are different in different distros, e.g. package management
[01:51] <David-A> earthling_: regarding xfce they may have different default themes
[01:51] <David-A> earthling_: is there any particular differences you wonder about?
[01:51] <earthling_> so many choices in linux
[01:52] <earthling_> I guess I need to try alot of them out
[01:53] <David-A> earthling_: you know of distrowatch.com ? there is a top list, and links to sites and reviews
[01:54] <earthling_> David-A, I suppose you would recommend xubuntu
[01:54] <earthling_> yeah, I've seen that site
[01:54] <David-A> earthling_: So far it is my favorite.
[01:55] <David-A> earthling_: as you can see, there is a new distros released every day. so if you want choise...
[01:57] <earthling_> must be a thousand of distros
[02:04] <David-A> earthling_: there are sites about "how to choose a linux distro". they could help you. but there are thousands of those sites, so you have to chose one.
[02:07] <Guest83386> Hello, I appear to be having problems connecting my wireless printer
[02:10] <Guest83386> Hello?
[02:26] <Guest83386> Hello, I need some printer assistance
[02:28] <holstein> Guest83386: i would just ask...
[02:29] <holstein> Guest83386: state the printer type, and the ubuntu version.. what issues you are having with the printer wizard
[02:29] <Guest83386> Okay, well I can't seem to connect my network printer to my linux. I am connected to Windows machines wirelessly, however. Canon PIXMA MX860, Xubuntu 12.10
[02:30] <holstein> Guest83386: have you used the wizard?
[02:30] <Guest83386> I am new to linux, so I was looking for tutorials on Google and I can't seem to properly connect
[02:30] <holstein> Guest83386: keep in mind, it doesnt have to work
[02:30] <holstein> Guest83386: if they dont provide you with linux support
[02:30] <Guest83386> What do you mean by wizard? I am going into Settings, then Printers
[02:31] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75887/how-do-i-add-a-canon-pixma-mx860-network-printer
[02:31] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466041
[02:31] <holstein> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/06/download-install-canon-printer-driver.html
[02:31] <holstein> Guest83386: looks like theres a ppa that could help
[02:33] <Guest83386> On the first web page you provided, how do I find the MA Address?
[02:33] <Guest83386> *MAC
[02:38] <Guest83386> I am following the 3rd web page but having error
[02:38] <holstein> Guest83386: feel free and share that page, and the error here or in #ubuntu
[02:38] <holstein> i gotta run
[03:29] <Guest17284> I'm having troubles making my default printing options grayscale
[03:33] <earthling_> I was chatting on #debian and somebody was scanning my ports, are ports used by hackers to get into a system?
[03:33] <holstein> earthling_: open ports
[03:34] <earthling_> but ports are necessary to use internet?
[03:34] <earthling_> so some have to be open,right?
[03:34] <holstein> earthling_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_scanner
[03:34] <holstein> earthling_: you probably dont have any open, unless you opened them, or your router is set for upnp
[03:35] <earthling_> are they closed by default on ubuntu?
[03:35] <earthling_> I didn't open any that I know of
[03:35] <holstein> earthling_: i always install and setup a firewall for public machines
[03:36] <james__> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1488850.html I just used this tutorial to set up my printer. Now when I try to remove the extracted folders from my downloads folder, I get permission denied?
[03:36] <holstein> earthling_: if you are on a router, that is public facing
[03:36] <holstein> james__: you can use sudo.. but maybe just leave them there for now
[03:37] <james__> Could removing them cause any harm?
[03:37] <earthling_> holstein, sudo ufw enable ?
[03:37] <holstein> james__: could it do any good?
[03:37] <holstein> earthling_: thats usually what i do
[03:38] <holstein> earthling_: unless im at home, and want connectivity behind my router
[03:38] <james__> Well, it'd make it a bit cleaner. I have a bit of OCD :p
[03:38] <holstein> !sudo | james__
[03:38] <holstein> james__: you *can* remove *very* important files with this command
[03:39] <holstein> james__: what would i do? leave your system in a functioning state, and deal with "cleaning up" later when/if you need the space
[03:39] <james__> Hmm, when I followed that tutorial, were the drivers installed somewhere else?
[03:40] <james__> I don't fully understand linux, so are the drivers still only located in those original folders?
[03:40] <holstein> james__: you sudo unpacked them
[03:40] <holstein> james__: if you dont understand, just leave them there
[03:40] <holstein> james__: there are several ways to remove files when you dont have permission
[03:41] <holstein> james__: you can also *totally* ruin your machine with the same commands
[03:41] <james__> Correct. So when I unpacked them, were they installed elsewhere? Or is it getting the required information directly from where I unpacked them?
[03:42] <holstein> james__: from what i read, you unpacked.. as root.. then installed.. you wouldnt have needed to unpack as root
[03:42] <james__> So deleting them should cause no harm?
[03:43] <holstein> james__: sudo let root unpack those.. creating files that your user doesnt have permission to edit
[03:43] <james__> And I can delete them, only if I use sudo?
[03:43] <holstein> james__: correct.. you dont need them anymore.. you can delete them
[03:43] <holstein> james__: you can delete them as root
[03:44] <james__> Is sudo = root?
[03:44] <holstein> james__: no
[03:44] <james__> I will have to read on that when I am more awake :p
[03:44] <earthling_> holstein, gufw is the same as ufw but easier to use?
[03:44] <holstein> james__: sudo, as listed above, runs commands as if you were root
[03:45] <holstein> earthling_: "easier" is a matter of opinion.. i think gufw is a GUI version.. i havent tried it
[03:45] <earthling_> a graphical version
[03:45] <james__> Okay, I will just have to delete as root?
[03:45] <holstein> james__: no.. you can *only* delete those files as root
[03:45] <earthling_> I usually prefer gui to command line
[03:46] <james__> Okay, I will have to check out how
[03:46] <james__> Thank you
[03:47] <james__> Um, how may I go about deleting as root?
[03:47] <holstein> james__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014486 is from searching "ubuntu delete directory as root"
[03:47] <holstein> james__: i suggest you not.. i suggest you wait
[03:47] <james__> You suggest I leave the files there?
[03:48] <holstein> james__: i suggest you not accidentally break your system by running a sudo command that can do just that
[03:49] <holstein> james__: you can run the file manager as root with gksudo.. you can sudo rm the directory
[03:49] <james__> I am confused..
[03:50] <james__> Are those unpacked files being used?
[03:50] <holstein> james__: no
[03:50] <james__> Okay, so the only problem is I may accidentally delete something other than what I intended?
[03:50] <holstein> james__: you should *not* have unpacked them as root.. but its ok that you did.. youcan remove them as root.. but i suggest you dont, since it literally doesnt matter that they are there
[03:51] <james__> So when I said sudo, it unpacked it as root?
[03:52] <holstein> james__: correct.. you asked that they be unpacked as not accesible to your normal user
[03:53] <holstein> !danger
[03:53] <james__> I see. I now understand why that was unnecessary
[03:53] <james__> If I run the File Manager with sudo, it will be able to delete those files?
[03:53] <holstein> james__: i thought that linked the command.. but anyway.. the command *is* dangerous since it just deletes anything
[03:53] <holstein> james__: you run the file manager with gksudo
[03:53] <holstein> !gksudo
[03:54] <james__> I see
[03:54] <holstein> or, you just leave them sitting there til you are more comfortable. or you boot a live CD and navigate in and get rid of them.. or you read the link i gave above on how to remove them
[03:55] <james__> Hmm, how would I use gksudo and File Manager?
[03:55] <james__> Just type it as that?
[03:56] <holstein> james__: what file manager? thunar?
[03:56] <james__> I am unsure what comes with xubuntu
[03:57] <james__> Ah yes, that is it. Thank you
[03:57] <james__> Okay I have went in and delete the unpacked folders
[03:58] <james__> My printer should still work okay after a reboot?
[03:59] <james__> How do I go about deleting programs I've no need for?
[04:00] <james__> Such as Xfburn. I do not even have a CD Drive
[04:00] <holstein> james__: i wouldnt.. i would just use it "as-is".. you can open the package manager of your choice and remove what you like, but sometimes you will remove other things with that packages
[04:00] <holstein> like, xfburn.. it might take other things that you need
[04:02] <james__> Hm, okay, but if I go to Ubuntu Software Center, type in the name, it gives me the option to remove
[04:02] <james__> Is that considered safe?
[04:05] <SunStar> yes
[04:06] <holstein> you can break things..
[04:07] <james__> Uhm, I just installed Google Chrome. If I wanted to uninstall that, how would I go about doing it?
[04:07] <holstein> james__: search in the package manager of your choice
[04:07] <SunStar> when removing packages your better off checking the dependencies in shell with sudo apt-get build-dep then remove with sudo apt-get remove if it doesnt look like like it's going to remove anything you need
[04:08] <SunStar> software center can help you in identifying package names
[04:09] <SunStar> you can also remove with sudo apt-get purge
[04:10] <SunStar> chrome can be removed safely with software center
[04:10] <james__> How would I go about doing that? When I search it, only Chromium comes up. Not Chrome
[04:10] <holstein> james__: try google-chrome
[04:11] <james__> Ah think I found it.. wasn't showing techincal results
[04:11] <SunStar> it shouldnt have been hiden in the technical results
[04:11] <james__> 3 appear as "the web browser from Google"
[04:11] <james__> and one has a green check, I am assuming that is the one I have installed
[04:12] <SunStar> yeah
[04:12] <holstein> james__: use the one that is installed, and uninstall it if you want
[04:12] <james__> Okay, I understand now
[04:13] <james__> I believe I should head to sleep now. Thank you for assisting me tonight, I feel as though I have a better grip on how to access different parts of the system
[04:13] <james__> I appreciate your help, thank you! have a good night :)
[04:18] <earthling_> When I am customizing xfce with themes how do I know that they don't have malicious code?  are they open source?
[04:20] <holstein> earthling_: get them from the repos, or some other source you trust
[04:21] <earthling_> xfce-look.org seems to be the most popular site
[04:21] <earthling_> holstein, ubuntu software center?
[04:22] <earthling_> I'm new to xubuntu
[04:22] <holstein> earthling_: the ubuntu software center is just an applications. it access the ubuntu repos and whatever other sources you add
[04:22] <earthling_> I think I only use the basic repos then
[04:23] <earthling_> that are by default
[04:25] <earthling_> holstein, where do I find xfce themes in the repos?
[04:27] <earthling_> don't see any in USC
[04:29] <holstein> earthling_: i just ran apt-cache search xfce theme and saw a few there
[04:55] <SunStar> earthling_, http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[05:04] <SunStar> sure enough. Google is being sneaky and hiding Chrome in software center to make it more difficult to remove
[05:27] <earthling_> thx SunStar
[07:54] <VinceThePrince> Is it possible to enable "screen docking" like in Windows 7/8 ?
[07:54] <SunStar> yes
[07:54] <VinceThePrince> what's the exact name of it cause I don't think screen docking is the right one
[07:55] <SunStar> launcher menu -> settings manager -> window manager -> advanced tab. disable wrapping and enable snap
[07:56] <SunStar> or did you want to use sticky?
[08:03] <SunStar> or do you meen automatic screen orientation sensing? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/UsefulLinks
[08:06] <VinceThePrince> SunStar, sorry if drag the screen to the right
[08:06] <VinceThePrince> it should snap and half of the screen should be windowed
[08:07] <SunStar> yeah then thats my first set of instructions, the snap enabled, wrap disabled
[08:11] <koegs> VinceThePrince: which Xubuntu-Version do you use?
[08:12] <VinceThePrince> koegs, 12.04 LTS
[08:12] <koegs> then you will need the XFCE4.10 PPA at least
[08:13] <VinceThePrince> koegs will this be an update or an install I just migrated from Ubuntu 10 to Xubuntu so  I'm a brand new user
[08:14] <koegs> either you upgrade to Xubuntu 12.10 or you use the PPA for XFCE4.10, Tiling was introduced with 4.10
[08:14] <koegs> this will not come with a normal "update" for 12.04
[08:14] <VinceThePrince> koegs, nvm I don't want to upgrade to 12.10 but thanks for the advice!
[08:15] <koegs> then use the ppa
[08:15] <koegs> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
[09:21] <VinceThePrince> what is the command for the standard screenshot application?
[09:22] <VinceThePrince> nvm it's
[09:23] <VinceThePrince> xfce4-screenshooter
[12:08] <DemonWitch> sup
[14:30] <xubuntu237> hello, guys
[14:30] <xubuntu088> hello guys....
[14:30] <baizon> hi hi
[14:30] <xubuntu088> i've a problem....my system is in japanese, and now???
[14:30] <xubuntu088> help please...
[14:31] <baizon> why is it in japanese?
[14:31] <xubuntu237> to the point: I'm running xubuntu 12.04 32-bits on a dell m4600 and since this monday, I've been suffering lots of laptop freezes
[14:32] <xubuntu088> everything #baizon...windows, programs, fonts....i don't know more want to do
[14:32] <baizon> xubuntu237: check your RAM with memtest
[14:33] <baizon> xubuntu088: try this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6394
[14:33] <xubuntu237> and I would like to know if more than you are having this issue ... and what logs may I check or monitor to try to find the cause of the problem
[14:34] <baizon> xubuntu237: check dmesg
[14:34] <xubuntu237> ok, thanks baizon .. i'll check it
[14:35] <baizon> xubuntu237: else this http://askubuntu.com/questions/51265/where-is-var-log-messages
[14:35] <xubuntu088> ok....tanks baizon
[14:36] <baizon> np
[15:01] <nantou> can you help me with audio related topics?
[15:02] <nantou> I have decompressed an ape.acu folder with monkey audio using vbox (windows guest, linux host). Output is a single .wav file for the whole CD, not independent tracks
[15:03] <nantou> what do I have to do to get the independent tracks?
[15:18] <DemonWitch> i am compiling the kernel, and i have dual core cpu and hyperthreading. should i select 300hz or 1000hz in timer freq? (i read in kernel-seeds that more than 2 cores should be 300hz)
[15:33] <ubo> buona sera a tutti voi
[15:33] <DemonWitch> ubo, your mother said that
[15:34] <ubo> sory no write in inglese
[15:37] <ubo> qualcuno scrive e parla la mia lingua? Ho un problema da risolvere
[15:39] <Pici> !it
[15:41] <ubo> grazie non ero al corrente
[16:00] <SKOPPIO1978> salve
[16:01] <SKOPPIO1978> qualke italiano?
[16:02] <Pici> !it
[17:11] <caulfield> hello, fellow Xubuntu appreciators!
[17:11] <caulfield> :D
[17:12] <caulfield> i'm just wondering, with xubuntu, am i using ubuntu, wihtout all the privacy and other annoying hassles of ubuntu with unity?
[17:18] <scottbomb> Xubuntu is basically the same as Ubuntu, "under the hood" that is. The GUI is completely different though. There is no Unity (which is what drove me to try Xubuntu).
[17:18] <Unit193> Xubuntu uses the same core, just different default config and application set.
[17:20] <n-iCe> I love xubuntu
[17:20] <n-iCe> <3
[17:20] <scottbomb> I'm looking to get started in testing. Does anyone have any pointers, like which testcases should be worked?
[17:21] <caulfield> thanks for your answers, guys! what seems to be very nice in my book is that everything is so 'logical'. it's laughably easy to find the exact app you're looking for, and when you want to set up something, it seems you intuitively know where to search for the option.
[17:24] <Unit193> scottbomb: Testing for Xubuntu?  We need those!  You may want to join #xubuntu-devel
[17:25] <scottbomb> Sorry about that, I thought I was in that one.
[17:27] <Unit193> scottbomb: You would generally pull a iso from cdimage for xubuntu daily, then fill out a testcase on the ISO tracker.  Sometimes there is a targeted application that needs testing (lately, catfish and parole)
[17:28] <n-iCe> Unit193: explain me more about tesing
[17:28] <n-iCe> is there a xubuntu testing iso?
[17:29] <Unit193> !cdimage
[17:29] <Unit193> !daily
[17:30] <Unit193> Go for the daily-live, not daily.
[17:30] <gfelix> hi all, can i get here an answer for my problem?
[17:31] <Unit193> gfelix: I didn't see you ask one.
[17:31] <Unit193> n-iCe: Does that  help any?  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ is the ISO tracker.
[17:32] <n-iCe> Unit193: and I install that iso, how am i helping actually? system sends reports?
[17:33] <Unit193> n-iCe: There are times when it's more helpful than others, like when something specific needs testing, but it sure is helpful!  The report isn't automatic, no.
[17:34] <n-iCe> then no sure how would I help, since I have no idea in how to  reports bugs or errors
[17:35] <Unit193> They'd be happy to walk you though it in #xubuntu-devel, we greatly need testers. :)
[17:39] <ner0x> Anyone in here use Ubuntu One and have an .ignore list set up?
[17:43] <gfelix> )) ok, i have small problem with my notebook (HP Pavilion dv6800er) - i can't make sound more or less loud with sensor buttons, that's why i need to press volume button on the panel. but on ubuntu and others it works.
[17:57] <caulfield> hi again! just one more tiny thing - is it just me, or is ristretto painfully slow? and another - thing - is gmuiscbrowser lightweight? it looks good and gets the job done, but i prefer rhythmbox. i would use gmusicbrowser if it was lightweight. Thanks for your answers in advance!!!
[17:58] <ner0x> caulfield: Spotify!
[17:58] <caulfield> spotify is? image browser?
[17:59] <caulfield> ah no, googled it, sry for stupid question :D
[17:59] <caulfield> + one more - am i in any way deprivileged if i use 4.8 with 12.04 instead of 4.10 with 12.10?
[17:59] <Unit193> caulfield: You can use whatever you like best!  ristretto works fine for me, but you can use gthumb (I'd think larger), or maybe gpicview.
[18:00] <Unit193> I personally like 4.10/12.10 better, but that's me.
[18:01] <ner0x> caulfield: It's pretty awesome for music. And removes the need to clog up your computer with music they already have.
[18:01] <caulfield> i kinda liked the theme better, but like the whole LTS business, so kinda of stuck in between :)
[18:01] <caulfield> ner0x, i just visited their site, it says they only support mac and windows...
[18:02] <caulfield> is this thing something like people use youtube for, when they listen to music without the need to download it?
[18:03] <caulfield> oh, plus now i see it's not available in my country yer :/
[18:06] <ner0x> caulfield: Why would I suggest an app that only supports mac and windows in #xubuntu...
[18:07] <Unit193> caulfield: Not in USA I'd guess?  That'd rule out pianobar/pithos for pandora (unless proxied)
[18:07] <caulfield> no, ex-yugoslavia
[18:07] <caulfield> between the balkans and central europe
[18:07] <caulfield> :)
[18:08] <ner0x> caulfield: Too bad. Spotify is awesome.
[18:09] <caulfield> Jeez, i hope they'll have it here soon also.
[18:09] <caulfield> man, we can't even use netflix
[18:09] <caulfield> :D
[18:10] <Silence-> Just get a VPN?
[18:19] <n-iCe> is xubuntu 12.10 running any kind of effects?
[18:19] <n-iCe> Like, compiz or something?
[18:19] <TheSheep> not by default
[18:19] <TheSheep> just the usual shadows and transparency build into xfwm
[18:20] <n-iCe> thanks
[18:21] <gfelix> Unit193, i have small problem with my notebook (HP Pavilion dv6800er) - i can't make sound more or less loud with sensor buttons, that's why i need to press volume button on the panel. but on ubuntu and others it works.
[18:22] <n-iCe> I have the screen lock manager
[18:22] <n-iCe> hate
[18:22] <n-iCe> gfelix: sensor buttons? touch buttons?
[18:22] <Unit193> gfelix: I can't really help you.
[18:24] <gfelix> n-iCe, yeah, these buttons are located above keyboard and they are blue (they have blue light)
[18:25] <n-iCe> I got those too on my sony vaio VGN-CS170F
[18:25] <n-iCe> But I can not solve that problem from like 2 years ago, in any distro.
[18:27] <gfelix> n-iCe. that's too strange... maybe this has a mechanic reason?
[18:29] <n-iCe> I think linux detects it like a lot of buttons pressed at the same time, my laptop freezes when I touch the panel
[18:30] <n-iCe> for like 20 seconds
[18:33] <guide_X> anyone know how to enable scrollbars in ubuntu 12.10?
[18:33] <gfelix> n-iCe: maybe, but i'm not sure. i guess this depends on distro and distro's software
[18:35] <n-iCe> guide_X: Ctrl – Alt – T
[18:36] <n-iCe> gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[18:38] <Kris_CGo> Any xubuntu devs here who know if you're going to use mir or wayland? Some ubuntu derivatives are going wayland and a few mir.
[18:38] <GridCube> Kris_CGo, #xubuntu-devel please
[18:38] <GridCube> and there is nothing known there yet
[18:39] <guide_X> ok i'll try, 1 sec
[18:39] <guide_X> hmm it didn't do anything
[18:39] <guide_X> ctrl+alt+t
[18:39] <Kris_CGo> GridCube: Ah, I guess I'll just wait.
[18:39] <guide_X> oh i'll try the second suggestion..
[18:41] <guide_X> also my keyboard is spitting out the wrong characters
[18:41] <guide_X> how do I fix that?
[18:41] <guide_X> so when I hit * I get ( etc
[18:42] <guide_X> oh wait I found it
[18:42] <guide_X> crap I can't scroll down to the correct language...
[18:44] <guide_X> so after I do "gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[18:47] <guide_X> hmm that didn't work..
[18:47] <guide_X> I still have no scrollbar after the "gsettings.. " command, even after reboot
[18:50] <guide_X> any help? I'm desperate
[18:50] <guide_X> I can't do anything
[18:53] <Kris_CGo> Lots of hugs to the kde/kubuntu devs, I ragequit from unity/gnome and haven't looked back... although some of my systems have long been xfce because gnome was too big for them to run smooth lol
[18:55] <guide_X> glad it works for you
[19:03] <guide_X> is there some kind of trick to get the scrollwheel on my mouse to work?
[19:27] <scottbomb> Thanks for the advice from this morning Unit193. I would have responded earlier but I'm also at work so I had to do the boss's bidding.
[19:33] <n-iCe> I'm back
[19:49] <SuperLag> How do you get a dual-monitor configuration to *persist* when you reboot the machine?
[19:50] <SuperLag> I'm banging my head on the wall trying to figure this out. Saving the xrandr config to ~/.xprofile does not work. Saving it to /etc/rc.local does not work.
[19:51] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ basically use arandr.
[19:52] <SuperLag> Unit193: I've tried both arandr and xrandr. Both *get* me the config I want... but it never persists.
[19:53] <Unit193> Thought it could save and autoload them, hmmm...
[19:53] <SuperLag> Unit193: when I save it, it puts a shell script file in ~/.screenlayout
[19:53] <SuperLag> but when I reboot... it goes back to a mirroring display every time
[19:54] <Unit193> Welp, never rebooted with dual-monitors before.
[19:55] <scottbomb> Dual monitor support still needs work in Xubuntu. I created my own script file with randr and have it in my list of applications to autostart when I log in.
[19:56] <Vilma> Hi.
[20:02] <Unit193> IIRC, 4.12 has much better support, but not released yet.
[20:09] <eXtremeAkim> hello?
[20:09] <eXtremeAkim> anyone?
[20:09] <eXtremeAkim> i could really use some help here
[20:09] <SunStar> yes
[20:09] <eXtremeAkim> yay
[20:10] <eXtremeAkim> how ya doin?
[20:10] <SunStar> patience is usually required when asking for help on IRC
[20:10] <eXtremeAkim> well im kinda new to th IRC
[20:10] <Silence-> :)
[20:10] <Silence-> Think of it as a forum. You wouldnt write "hello", "anyone?" in a forum post.
[20:10] <eXtremeAkim> im giving up hope on ubuntu ;(
[20:11] <eXtremeAkim> i guess not
[20:11] <Silence-> Even though IRC is real time, it's still good to use that approach in support channels that need to be structured.
[20:11] <Silence-> eXtremeAkim: Why are you giving up on it?
[20:11] <eXtremeAkim> note taken :)
[20:11] <eXtremeAkim> i got tons of problems with it
[20:11] <eXtremeAkim> and none of them are on Askubuntu or any other source
[20:11] <knome> eXtremeAkim, are we talking about ubuntu or xubuntu?
[20:11] <eXtremeAkim> i just cant seem to put it right
[20:12] <eXtremeAkim> Xubuntu
[20:12] <knome> just making sure.
[20:12] <eXtremeAkim> so i installed it
[20:12] <eXtremeAkim> couldnt get into the descktop(nomodeset helped me)
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> than i installed the drivers for the grafix
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> ok
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> seems like fine
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> but then
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> no sound
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> at all
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> took me 4 hours to find the solution
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> found it
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> fixed it
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> all fine
[20:13] <eXtremeAkim> but then
[20:14] <knome> !enter | eXtremeAkim
[20:14] <eXtremeAkim> application menu crashed
[20:14] <SunStar> no kidding
[20:14] <eXtremeAkim> oh sorry, i cant launch apps from right click on desktop or by clicking the "application menu" button
[20:15] <SunStar> have you tried restarting the computer?
[20:16] <eXtremeAkim> all it says is this > failed to launch application menu : error in line 1 char 1, the page ether doesn't exist or whiteboard ( something like that ). restarted 5 million times, tried switching desktops , switching users... nothing
[20:17] <eXtremeAkim> and i cant even find a problem like that on the net... its like im the only one...
[20:18] <knome> eXtremeAkim, did you check the CD integrity before installing?
[20:18] <SunStar> yeah your computer hates you (sounds like a bad install. it also sounds like that box doesnt play well with non windows)
[20:19] <eXtremeAkim> i did... it came out good... im downloading now a fresh iso, putting it on another usb and i will start again :(
[20:20] <eXtremeAkim> Im soo tired of windows that it makes me puke :( only reason i dont have Ubuntu for 4 years now is my wife... i showed her the Xubutu desktop and she liked it (amaingly surprising)
[20:21] <TheSheep> never a good idea to force people to it
[20:22] <eXtremeAkim> im not forcing her to it... shes the one complaining about windows being "slow"
[20:25] <eXtremeAkim> by the way, is there another way to make sure the image is good beside the MD5SUMS way?
[20:29] <SunStar> the disk has a self check but dont trust it. most of the time when i have a bad ISO the self check says its good.
[20:30] <eXtremeAkim> so how can i be 100% sure the Image i created is good?
[20:31]  * SunStar shrugs
[20:44] <scottbomb> Is there any disadvantage in using VirtualBox for ISO testing?
[20:44] <scottbomb> doh! wrong forum again...
[20:45] <scottbomb> nevermind
[20:47] <eXtremeAkim> so how can i be 100% sure the Image i created is good? ( please ? )
[20:48] <TheSheep> eXtremeAkim: once you boot it, there is an option to verify it
[20:49] <eXtremeAkim> trough what? how?
[20:55] <TheSheep> eXtremeAkim: you burn it on a cd or make a liveusb...
[21:02] <xubuntu392> good morning
[21:09] <SunStar> once you have the disk (usb) in the computer you are greeted with boot options (install, memtest verify disk, etc..)   this is the test i was telling you about in how inaccurate and misleading it can be. but it will tell you about obvious problems
[21:26] <eXtremeAkim> ok than.. thnx.. i will try that not.. the iso is downloaded... hope i never have to comeback here.. thanx alot guys... bye
[23:31] <eduardo__> Hello!
[23:31] <eduardo__> I found a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965)
[23:35] <drc> eduardo__: If you wish, you can use  Brazilian Portuguese in # ubuntu-br . Also, It would help if you actually posed a problem or asked a question.  Just citing a known bug does not help.
[23:38] <eduardo__> I need help! This bug is holding me back!
[23:39] <eduardo__> I'm with a problem caused by this bug! When I put the volume at 100% it is oscillating wildly!
[23:50] <VanessaE> I've just done a re-install of my system (getting ready for some hardware upgrades), and can no longer turn on RGB subpixel antialiasing without experiencing heavy color fringing.  What did I do wrong?
[23:51] <VanessaE> (using Xubuntu Precise)