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farukOerHeks, thanks!00:25
urlwolfwhat does it mean for kubutu that ubuntu is switching to qt?00:40
afiefhHello, I'm trying to install Steam on Kubuntu 12.10, but apparently it depends on zenity which somehow prevents its installation02:01
phiscribeubuntu and qt:  http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/10/20/ubuntu-and-qt/02:07
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samskiterhi, im having trouble logging out or shutting down from kde02:26
samskiter(... and perhaps related: the muon software updater doesn't work)02:27
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samskiteror does anyone know how i can log out of kde without using the GUI?02:31
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unheedingis there a kubuntu raring room?04:48
Unit193unheeding: All of raring is in #ubuntu+104:54
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QueonMy SD card slot has stopped detecting cards for some reason, any of you wouldn't happen to know I way I can find out what's wrong, would you? I have a way around it using an SD/USB adapter, but the card reader is much more convenient.05:58
skittahelp06:05
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ADmad_guys the link for "12.04.2" on this page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04.2-release  should probably be change to something better than https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/FIXME :)07:02
tsimpsonADmad_: you should mention that in #kubuntu-devel07:05
ADmad_tsimpson: will do, thanks07:05
unheedingokay that was really annoying.  my locale got set to chinese and wouldn't stop07:13
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Volstarhi, I wonder how Canonical decision to use MIR will affect Kubuntu (if it will at all). Wouldn't there be a need to mainatin custom Qt and gtk packages, because official ones will be patched for MIR?07:44
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W8uiE5when i start firefox my pc crashes. (firefox:2502): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so) initialization check failed: GLib version too old (micro mismatch) what can i do?08:16
userif i stop a plasma activity only kde applications are stopped ... gtk apps remain to run08:41
useris there a workaround for this issue ?08:42
unheedingdon't use gtk apps ;)08:46
useris there nothing else i can do about it?08:49
userat least: how to write a script to interact with activities, meaning i write a bash script that launches a gtk app, when stopping activity the script is stopp which means the app is stopped and if the activity is started again the script restores me an app08:50
unheedingwhat gtk app?08:52
usergimp, chrome, firefox etc.08:53
useri know that chrome and firefox are not gtk only :-)08:53
unheedingwhat are they doing that they need to be stopped?08:54
userusing cpu08:54
useri mean why do we have a stop implemented then?08:54
userhow is the stop done technically?08:54
joarjI'm I the only kubuntu user that occasionally get a total freeze and have to hard reset my workstation ? I don't think my computer ever has passed 14 days of uptime08:57
unheedingjoarj: i had that when i installed the kernel from xorg-edgers08:57
joarjunheeding: hmm, I'm running stock Kubuntu 12.10 generic . I've had similar issues with both nouveau as well as with the nvidia proprietary driver08:59
unheedingwhat kernel?08:59
joarjunheeding: 3.5.0-25-generic08:59
unheedinghmm, i dunno.  does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" attempt to pull in a newer kernel?09:00
joarjunheeding: I should point out that I'm running kde 4.10 rc3 or something... 4.9.98 so I guess that is to blame09:01
joarjit's just that I have the general opinion that whenever I run any 'advanced' DE such as unity, gnome3 or kde they tend to have this kind of problem one way or the other.09:02
unheedingwell, that shouldn't cause your whole system to lock up09:02
unheedingcan you switch to a virtual terminal?  ctrl+alt+f1?09:02
unheedingwhen this happens, I mean09:02
joarjunheeding: nah, that's the problem, it's a total freeze09:03
unheedingyeah, sounds like a kernel issue09:03
joarjif I only could switch to a virtual terminal I could mabye debug it09:03
joarjunheeding: yeah, I think you're right09:03
joarjmabye I'll try out some other kernels09:03
joarjI've got an older nvidia 9800GT card, I was under the impression the open source driver was preferable as it is better integrated into the kernel. What do you guys think about that ? should I go for the proprietary nvidia driver instead ? I don't need any gaming performance at work :p09:05
unheedingjoarj: is it a laptop?09:05
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joarjunheeding: nope, it's actually a HP xw8600 workstation. had a killer spec some 4-5 years ago :p though the nvidia card I've put in myself09:06
unheedingi was going to say you'll get better power consumption/heat with the proprietary drivers09:06
unheedingalso maybe the fancy desktop effects09:07
joarjcome to think of it, I've got 2 of those cards, I could always switch card and rule out the possibility of a hardware fault in the gfx card09:07
unheedingi have translucent EVERYTHING09:07
unheedingit's amazing09:07
unheedingbut i should og to sleep.  goodnight kubuntus09:07
joarjnighty nighty09:07
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murthyhello everyone11:27
lordievaderHey murthy, how are you?11:29
murthylordievader: I am fine, how are you ?11:32
lordievaderDoing good :)11:37
murthylordievader: have you upgraded to 4.10.1 ?11:37
lordievadermurthy: Yes on a precise and raring install. Not on my quantal install though. Works quite well on raring :D11:39
murthylordievader: In that case i am going to upgrade. I am on quantal, I will see if it work well11:41
lordievadermurthy: Has it been released btw?11:45
lordievaderHmm 5th of march it has been released.11:47
ovidiu-florinhello world :D11:53
lordievaderHey ovidiu-florin, how are you?11:53
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ovidiu-florinJust borrowed a laptop, I'm backing it up and after that I'll install a kubuntu and start developing :D:D:D11:54
BluesKajHey all11:55
ovidiu-florinhey BluesKaj11:55
lordievaderYayy, developing what actually? Kde/Kubuntu stuff?11:55
lordievaderHey BluesKaj11:55
ovidiu-florinlordievader: KDE stuff and testing kubuntu11:55
BluesKajhji ovidiu-florin , lordievader11:55
ovidiu-florinbut I want to work on plasma active11:55
ovidiu-florinI'm getting envolved in kde-accessibility with plasma active11:56
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Ah nice, plasma active is tablet stuff right?11:56
ovidiu-florinI'm playing around with Jovie right now11:56
ovidiu-florinlordievader: yes11:56
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Cool :D11:56
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murthylordievader: its available now http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.113:22
lordievadermurthy: Ah it's now in the backports too, nice.13:23
murthylordievader: ya13:23
lordievadermurthy: Did you update your quantal already?13:24
murthylordievader: no, going to update, today13:32
cobberGuys at Fedora told me Mint was Kubuntu13:34
cobberso I have a question13:34
cobberThey said Mint was just some old ragged up version of Ubuntu and they called it Kubuntu, the just called it Mint..Is this True?13:36
ovidiu-florinMint is not kubuntu, it is based on ubuntu and they also have the option of using KDE13:36
cobberyou think of the KDE?13:37
ovidiu-florinbut the default DE is Maate, I think13:37
ovidiu-florinMate*13:37
ovidiu-florincobber: please refine your question13:38
cobberi HAVE THE ked13:38
cobberI have the KDE13:38
cobberMint KDE13:38
BluesKajcobber, mint is actually a stable version based on ubuntu , with several available desktops , but best to ask in ##linuxmint chat13:38
cobberok13:39
BluesKajbtw cobber who is13:39
BluesKajThey"?13:39
cobber?13:39
cobberwould not worry about it13:39
cobbersame deal wrong os13:40
Pici!mintsupport13:40
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org13:40
BluesKajoh fedora , yeah real unbised opinion  there13:40
cobberin the wrong channel and there was some guy who talked a lot of rubbish13:40
BluesKajunbiased even13:40
cobberThey are pretty good bunch13:41
cobberjust one guy was talking a lot of stuff, but I don't listen to it as much13:41
cobberI will check out the mint room13:42
cobberthanks13:42
BluesKajI have mint on a another partition , trying it out for a freind who is cli phobic and it seems like a good OS to transit from windows to linux since it's relatively painless to install13:42
BluesKajmint isn't very cli update/upgrade friendly tho , they encourage updating/upgrading with synaptic13:50
juliohmHi, do you know any Qt front-end for Network Manager?14:02
juliohmI'm interested in using Openbox besides KDE, and unfortunately the KDE manager is in the form of a Plasmoid.14:03
BluesKajjuliohm, think that is a question for #kubuntu-devel chat14:07
BluesKajor #kde14:08
juliohmBluesKaj, i'm asking in #kde, thanks.14:09
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LeeJunFanTime to see if nepomuk got fixed in 4.10.1 so kmail address completion works.15:36
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cornfeedhobogood morning16:05
BluesKaj'morning :)16:09
BluesKajcornfeedhobo, ^16:09
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alainusHow do I automount a NTFS partition on startup ? I currently need to go to Dolphin and click on it before doing anything (I run a virtual machine that shares that partition and sometimes I forget to mount it before starting the VM)16:54
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alainusit's important that it has the same path that when Dolphin mounts it16:55
BluesKajrun  blkid and copy the resulting relevant UID into fstab16:56
alainusBluesKaj, this is the one that interests me : /dev/sda3: LABEL="shared" UUID="01CDD0F26FA882F0" TYPE="ntfs"16:57
BluesKajallee, ok , this is what I use for my external drive altho it's not ntfs , UUID=34ab43d0-f91e-4c5e-8e61-c1ccc7306839 /media/External ext4    defaults        0       216:58
BluesKajalainus, ^16:58
alainusBluesKaj,  how about this: /dev/sda3   /media/shared ntfs-3g  rw,defaults,umask=0000  0    016:59
BluesKajalainus, check your /etc/fstab and mod the string to fit the settings , drop the quotes16:59
BluesKajhmm , not sure about all those 0's17:00
alainusBluesKaj, i'm confused by the permission settings. is there a way I could know how it's mounted right now (how Dolphin mounts it by default) so I can just copy those settings over to /etc/fstab ?17:02
BluesKajyes run blkid in the terminal , it's not exactly what you want but you can go by what's already there to make it work17:03
BluesKajin fstab that is17:03
alainusBluesKaj, hmm the string I pasted before was the output for blkid: /dev/sda3: LABEL="shared" UUID="01CDD0F26FA882F0" TYPE="ntfs"17:04
alainusBluesKaj, I think I'm just gonna go with /dev/sda3    /path_to/mount_point    ntfs-3g    defaults    0 017:05
BluesKajalainus, try , UUID=01CDD0F26FA882F0 TYPE ntfs defaults 0  217:06
BluesKajalainus, yeah , stick the moutpoint in there before type17:08
alainusBluesKaj, accorting to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html, The 6th column is a fsck option. fsck looks at the number in the 6th column to determine in which order the filesystems should be checked. If it's zero, fsck won't check the filesystem.17:11
alainusseems like that number is either 0 or 117:11
BluesKajok , then try that17:12
BluesKajI'm no fstab expert , it's try this try that17:12
BluesKaja little self indulgence once /yr doesn't deserve a lecture of the obvious17:14
BluesKajoops wrrrong chat17:14
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gerloshello everyone!18:46
cornfeedhobohello!19:03
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gerlosI'm creating a public samba share for any user in my network, and I'm going to create a cron script to remove from this share files older than 1 days19:20
gerlosmy problem is that when users copy files there, they retain their modification date, so I can't use it as a reference for my remove script19:22
gerlosis there a way to "force" the samba server to change the modification date and time to tha date and time the user copied the file?19:23
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palassogerlos, what filesystem is that?19:34
genii-aroundSomething that doesn't seem to support file touch times, apparently.19:37
wissamHi ,does any one try kde 4.10 ? it it faster than 4.9 .4?19:38
lordievaderwissam: I have KDE SC 4.10.1 running here on Raring. Runs quite stable. KDE SC 4.10 on my Quantal install also runs stable.19:45
wissamlordievader: i want to try it but i have a slow internet connection :(19:46
lordievaderwissam: Leave it on for a night while updating ;)19:47
murthy!ta20:09
jman074can someone help me  i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it doesnt get past the boot screen. the screen starts with "starting load fallback graphics devices" and ends with "stopping save kernal messages" and its a list with all ok's20:21
genii-aroundjman074: What kind of video card do you have?20:25
jman074um dunno its a net book20:25
cornfeedhobohello guys... normally i try to give help but today i need some. I am trying to setup a dual monitor DisplayLink docking station... everything about Quantal on the web says it should just work, but it doesnt. if some one that is good with the newer xrog setups could help me figure this out i would be very thankful20:29
genii-around!nomodeset | jman074  ...I would look here first20:30
ubottujman074  ...I would look here first: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:30
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lordievadercornfeedhobo: I have no experience with DisplayLinks or docking stations, however what does the display manager of the KDE System Settings give you for options (or problems)?20:44
cornfeedhobomodel: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Docking-Station-K33972US-sd3500v/dp/B009F7E730   lspci/usb: http://dpaste.org/0o6oX/20:50
cornfeedhobolordievader: nothing really it doesnt even notice them20:50
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lordievadercornfeedhobo: Does udev see that you plug it in, how do you plug it in anyway, through usb? Docking port?20:59
lordievadercornfeedhobo: To see udev output run in a terminal: sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev20:59
goodtime_ty lordievader21:01
lordievadergoodtime_: ?21:02
goodtime_for the command lordievader.21:03
goodtime_ty21:03
lordievadergoodtime_ = cornfeedhobo?21:03
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goodtime_nope21:03
jman0741anyone know how to put different pictures on the other desktops for ubuntu21:04
lordievadergoodtime_: Are you talking about the udev command? (I'm kind of confused -.-)21:04
goodtime_yes21:04
goodtime_yes i was lordievader21:04
lordievadergoodtime_: Ah ok :) No problem ;)21:05
goodtime_:)21:05
lordievaderjman0741: What do you mean exactly with other desktops, virtual desktop or secondary screens or something?21:06
goodtime_virtual for now21:06
lordievaderjman0741: What do you mean exactly with other desktops, virtual desktop or secondary screens or something?21:07
goodtime_heh21:07
jman074lord21:08
jman074sorry i was disconnected21:08
lordievadergoodtime_: I was talking to jman074 ;)21:08
goodtime_okay21:08
jman074so on my side menu i have a button that allows me for workspaces/desktops21:08
jman074all have the same picture21:08
jman074i want to put a diff pic on each one21:09
goodtime_idk did you try to right click on it21:09
jman074lol yep21:09
cornfeedhobosorry. i keep getting support calls21:09
goodtime_maybe there a wiget for it21:10
lordievaderjman074: Not sure if it is still posible, but appearantly it was possible in KDE SC 4.4: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/kde-4-4-want-different-wallpaper-for-virtual-desktops-808329/21:10
lordievadercornfeedhobo: No problem.21:10
jman074ill check it out thanks21:10
cornfeedhobolordievader: yes its usb and udev does see it21:12
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Ok, so the kernel does see it. I'm starting to think that it is a driver issue. But I say again, I have no experience with docking-stations, so I could very well be wrong.21:13
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Does Kensington support linux with that docking-station, do they have a driver?21:14
cornfeedhobolordievader: nope. thats why its displaylink...supposed to be kernel support now21:15
cornfeedhobolordievader: i looked around and saw a bunch of stuff saying i should install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink but someone removed it from quantal citing it as obsolete21:16
lordievadercornfeedhobo: What version of Kubuntu are you running?21:16
cornfeedhoboquantal21:17
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Is this your post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206314321:19
cornfeedhobonope but i have read it21:19
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Have you read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202609/using-a-displaylink-usb-video-adapter-on-ubuntu-12-1021:21
cornfeedhoboi found http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/DisplayLink#Kernel but ubuntu doesnt have /proc/config.gz enabled21:21
cornfeedhobolordievader: nope...off to go try it out :-)21:22
cornfeedhobobrb21:22
lordievadercornfeedhobo: Good luck!21:23
cornfeedhobothx... off to reboot now21:25
cornfeedhoboalright.. no luck21:29
unheedingwooo, got screenlocking working on raring through a workaround21:29
unheedingmy system is secure!21:30
lordievaderunheeding: Do you also have the loose focus bug after unlocking? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31509321:30
ubottuKDE bug 315093 in locker-qml "application loses focus after unlocking the screensaver" [Minor,Unconfirmed]21:31
robo_How to get bottom bar for launching applications quickly ?21:31
unheedinglordievader: the screensaver lock doesn't work at all here.  there's a new lock screen in raring.  I had to use xscreensaver instead21:32
lordievaderunheeding: Hmm, the default screen lock works for me. Raring + KDE SC 4.10.121:33
lordievaderJust that I have that loose focus bug.21:33
unheedinglordievader: any proprietary drivers installed?21:33
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lordievaderunheeding: Nope.21:34
unheedingthat might be it21:34
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lordievadercornfeedhobo: Perhaps this can help you: http://plugable.com/2011/12/23/usb-graphics-and-linux21:36
lordievaderBe back later.21:39
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jman074is anyone here runnin ubuntu 11.1021:46
cornfeedhobolordievader: k thx21:52
koleopteroanybody in here using steam in kubuntu 12.10?21:56
DarthFrogkoleoptero:  I was.  I'm using it in 13.04 now.21:57
koleopteroit isn't logging me in dammit21:57
genii-aroundkoleoptero: Have you asked in #ubuntu-steam ?21:57
DarthFrogkoleoptero:  Or better yet, #steamlug21:57
koleopterothere's a steam channel?21:57
DarthFrogTwo.21:58
koleopteroawesome I'll ask there thanks21:58
murthygood night everyone21:58
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lordievaderBack :)22:02
Daskreechhi lordievader22:08
lordievaderHey Daskreech, how are you?22:09
DaskreechI'm good22:10
jman074okay back to my question is anyone runnin ubuntu 11.1022:13
lordievaderjman074: 11.10 is supported until April of this year. Perhaps it is time to upgrade?22:15
lordievaderjman074: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases22:16
jman074isnt there something i can type in the terminal to auto upgrade22:17
lordievaderjman074: To upgrade make sure your system is updated and then run: sudo do-release-upgrade22:18
jman074upated with the sudo apt-get upgrade22:19
jman074?22:19
Y0Y0update then upgrade yes22:21
lordievaderjman074: Update: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:21
jman074yeh just recently did that like last week22:22
jman074so i should be go to go22:22
lordievaderjman074: Do it again before running the do-release-upgrade.22:22
lordievaderNot sure to what version 11.10 upgrades, might be 12.04 or right away to 12.10...22:23
jman074well i might need to back up my system before i do this22:24
lordievaderjman074: Allways a good idea to do ;)22:25
jman074cuz if it messes up ill have to clone my hard drive to one with windows 8 and that would be tragic22:25
lordievaderWell I'm off to bed, good luck with your upgrade jman074.22:35
roastedhello friends23:38
roastedQuestion - I'm running an auto hide panel with the icon only task manager. Every time I get an IM, the panel appears, which I don't want since I have the notification menu simultaneously notifying me that Kopete needs attention. Is there a way to turn off the fact that my auto hide panel appears upon each instance the app requests attention?23:38
Y0Y0Is it just for kopete or everything?23:40
jman074so i did sudo do release up grade and it says no new releases ;/23:42

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