[00:25] <faruk> OerHeks, thanks!
[00:40] <urlwolf> what does it mean for kubutu that ubuntu is switching to qt?
[02:01] <afiefh> Hello, I'm trying to install Steam on Kubuntu 12.10, but apparently it depends on zenity which somehow prevents its installation
[02:07] <phiscribe> ubuntu and qt:  http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/10/20/ubuntu-and-qt/
[02:26] <samskiter> hi, im having trouble logging out or shutting down from kde
[02:27] <samskiter> (... and perhaps related: the muon software updater doesn't work)
[02:31] <samskiter> or does anyone know how i can log out of kde without using the GUI?
[04:48] <unheeding> is there a kubuntu raring room?
[04:54] <Unit193> unheeding: All of raring is in #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Queon> My SD card slot has stopped detecting cards for some reason, any of you wouldn't happen to know I way I can find out what's wrong, would you? I have a way around it using an SD/USB adapter, but the card reader is much more convenient.
[06:05] <skitta> help
[07:02] <ADmad_> guys the link for "12.04.2" on this page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04.2-release  should probably be change to something better than https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/FIXME :)
[07:05] <tsimpson> ADmad_: you should mention that in #kubuntu-devel
[07:05] <ADmad_> tsimpson: will do, thanks
[07:13] <unheeding> okay that was really annoying.  my locale got set to chinese and wouldn't stop
[07:44] <Volstar> hi, I wonder how Canonical decision to use MIR will affect Kubuntu (if it will at all). Wouldn't there be a need to mainatin custom Qt and gtk packages, because official ones will be patched for MIR?
[08:16] <W8uiE5> when i start firefox my pc crashes. (firefox:2502): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so) initialization check failed: GLib version too old (micro mismatch) what can i do?
[08:41] <user> if i stop a plasma activity only kde applications are stopped ... gtk apps remain to run
[08:42] <user> is there a workaround for this issue ?
[08:46] <unheeding> don't use gtk apps ;)
[08:49] <user> is there nothing else i can do about it?
[08:50] <user> at least: how to write a script to interact with activities, meaning i write a bash script that launches a gtk app, when stopping activity the script is stopp which means the app is stopped and if the activity is started again the script restores me an app
[08:52] <unheeding> what gtk app?
[08:53] <user> gimp, chrome, firefox etc.
[08:53] <user> i know that chrome and firefox are not gtk only :-)
[08:54] <unheeding> what are they doing that they need to be stopped?
[08:54] <user> using cpu
[08:54] <user> i mean why do we have a stop implemented then?
[08:54] <user> how is the stop done technically?
[08:57] <joarj> I'm I the only kubuntu user that occasionally get a total freeze and have to hard reset my workstation ? I don't think my computer ever has passed 14 days of uptime
[08:57] <unheeding> joarj: i had that when i installed the kernel from xorg-edgers
[08:59] <joarj> unheeding: hmm, I'm running stock Kubuntu 12.10 generic . I've had similar issues with both nouveau as well as with the nvidia proprietary driver
[08:59] <unheeding> what kernel?
[08:59] <joarj> unheeding: 3.5.0-25-generic
[09:00] <unheeding> hmm, i dunno.  does an "apt-get dist-upgrade" attempt to pull in a newer kernel?
[09:01] <joarj> unheeding: I should point out that I'm running kde 4.10 rc3 or something... 4.9.98 so I guess that is to blame
[09:02] <joarj> it's just that I have the general opinion that whenever I run any 'advanced' DE such as unity, gnome3 or kde they tend to have this kind of problem one way or the other.
[09:02] <unheeding> well, that shouldn't cause your whole system to lock up
[09:02] <unheeding> can you switch to a virtual terminal?  ctrl+alt+f1?
[09:02] <unheeding> when this happens, I mean
[09:03] <joarj> unheeding: nah, that's the problem, it's a total freeze
[09:03] <unheeding> yeah, sounds like a kernel issue
[09:03] <joarj> if I only could switch to a virtual terminal I could mabye debug it
[09:03] <joarj> unheeding: yeah, I think you're right
[09:03] <joarj> mabye I'll try out some other kernels
[09:05] <joarj> I've got an older nvidia 9800GT card, I was under the impression the open source driver was preferable as it is better integrated into the kernel. What do you guys think about that ? should I go for the proprietary nvidia driver instead ? I don't need any gaming performance at work :p
[09:05] <unheeding> joarj: is it a laptop?
[09:06] <joarj> unheeding: nope, it's actually a HP xw8600 workstation. had a killer spec some 4-5 years ago :p though the nvidia card I've put in myself
[09:06] <unheeding> i was going to say you'll get better power consumption/heat with the proprietary drivers
[09:07] <unheeding> also maybe the fancy desktop effects
[09:07] <joarj> come to think of it, I've got 2 of those cards, I could always switch card and rule out the possibility of a hardware fault in the gfx card
[09:07] <unheeding> i have translucent EVERYTHING
[09:07] <unheeding> it's amazing
[09:07] <unheeding> but i should og to sleep.  goodnight kubuntus
[09:07] <joarj> nighty nighty
[11:27] <murthy> hello everyone
[11:29] <lordievader> Hey murthy, how are you?
[11:32] <murthy> lordievader: I am fine, how are you ?
[11:37] <lordievader> Doing good :)
[11:37] <murthy> lordievader: have you upgraded to 4.10.1 ?
[11:39] <lordievader> murthy: Yes on a precise and raring install. Not on my quantal install though. Works quite well on raring :D
[11:41] <murthy> lordievader: In that case i am going to upgrade. I am on quantal, I will see if it work well
[11:45] <lordievader> murthy: Has it been released btw?
[11:47] <lordievader> Hmm 5th of march it has been released.
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[11:53] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you?
[11:54] <ovidiu-florin> Just borrowed a laptop, I'm backing it up and after that I'll install a kubuntu and start developing :D:D:D
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin> hey BluesKaj
[11:55] <lordievader> Yayy, developing what actually? Kde/Kubuntu stuff?
[11:55] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: KDE stuff and testing kubuntu
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hji ovidiu-florin , lordievader
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin> but I want to work on plasma active
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> I'm getting envolved in kde-accessibility with plasma active
[11:56] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Ah nice, plasma active is tablet stuff right?
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> I'm playing around with Jovie right now
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: yes
[11:56] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Cool :D
[13:22] <murthy> lordievader: its available now http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.1
[13:23] <lordievader> murthy: Ah it's now in the backports too, nice.
[13:23] <murthy> lordievader: ya
[13:24] <lordievader> murthy: Did you update your quantal already?
[13:32] <murthy> lordievader: no, going to update, today
[13:34] <cobber> Guys at Fedora told me Mint was Kubuntu
[13:34] <cobber> so I have a question
[13:36] <cobber> They said Mint was just some old ragged up version of Ubuntu and they called it Kubuntu, the just called it Mint..Is this True?
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> Mint is not kubuntu, it is based on ubuntu and they also have the option of using KDE
[13:37] <cobber> you think of the KDE?
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin> but the default DE is Maate, I think
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin> Mate*
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin> cobber: please refine your question
[13:38] <cobber> i HAVE THE ked
[13:38] <cobber> I have the KDE
[13:38] <cobber> Mint KDE
[13:38] <BluesKaj> cobber, mint is actually a stable version based on ubuntu , with several available desktops , but best to ask in ##linuxmint chat
[13:39] <cobber> ok
[13:39] <BluesKaj> btw cobber who is
[13:39] <BluesKaj> They"?
[13:39] <cobber> ?
[13:39] <cobber> would not worry about it
[13:40] <cobber> same deal wrong os
[13:40] <Pici> !mintsupport
[13:40] <BluesKaj> oh fedora , yeah real unbised opinion  there
[13:40] <cobber> in the wrong channel and there was some guy who talked a lot of rubbish
[13:40] <BluesKaj> unbiased even
[13:41] <cobber> They are pretty good bunch
[13:41] <cobber> just one guy was talking a lot of stuff, but I don't listen to it as much
[13:42] <cobber> I will check out the mint room
[13:42] <cobber> thanks
[13:42] <BluesKaj> I have mint on a another partition , trying it out for a freind who is cli phobic and it seems like a good OS to transit from windows to linux since it's relatively painless to install
[13:50] <BluesKaj> mint isn't very cli update/upgrade friendly tho , they encourage updating/upgrading with synaptic
[14:02] <juliohm> Hi, do you know any Qt front-end for Network Manager?
[14:03] <juliohm> I'm interested in using Openbox besides KDE, and unfortunately the KDE manager is in the form of a Plasmoid.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> juliohm, think that is a question for #kubuntu-devel chat
[14:08] <BluesKaj> or #kde
[14:09] <juliohm> BluesKaj, i'm asking in #kde, thanks.
[15:36] <LeeJunFan> Time to see if nepomuk got fixed in 4.10.1 so kmail address completion works.
[16:05] <cornfeedhobo> good morning
[16:09] <BluesKaj> 'morning :)
[16:09] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, ^
[16:54] <alainus> How do I automount a NTFS partition on startup ? I currently need to go to Dolphin and click on it before doing anything (I run a virtual machine that shares that partition and sometimes I forget to mount it before starting the VM)
[16:55] <alainus> it's important that it has the same path that when Dolphin mounts it
[16:56] <BluesKaj> run  blkid and copy the resulting relevant UID into fstab
[16:57] <alainus> BluesKaj, this is the one that interests me : /dev/sda3: LABEL="shared" UUID="01CDD0F26FA882F0" TYPE="ntfs"
[16:58] <BluesKaj> allee, ok , this is what I use for my external drive altho it's not ntfs , UUID=34ab43d0-f91e-4c5e-8e61-c1ccc7306839 /media/External ext4    defaults        0       2
[16:58] <BluesKaj> alainus, ^
[16:59] <alainus> BluesKaj,  how about this: /dev/sda3   /media/shared ntfs-3g  rw,defaults,umask=0000  0    0
[16:59] <BluesKaj> alainus, check your /etc/fstab and mod the string to fit the settings , drop the quotes
[17:00] <BluesKaj> hmm , not sure about all those 0's
[17:02] <alainus> BluesKaj, i'm confused by the permission settings. is there a way I could know how it's mounted right now (how Dolphin mounts it by default) so I can just copy those settings over to /etc/fstab ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> yes run blkid in the terminal , it's not exactly what you want but you can go by what's already there to make it work
[17:03] <BluesKaj> in fstab that is
[17:04] <alainus> BluesKaj, hmm the string I pasted before was the output for blkid: /dev/sda3: LABEL="shared" UUID="01CDD0F26FA882F0" TYPE="ntfs"
[17:05] <alainus> BluesKaj, I think I'm just gonna go with /dev/sda3    /path_to/mount_point    ntfs-3g    defaults    0 0
[17:06] <BluesKaj> alainus, try , UUID=01CDD0F26FA882F0 TYPE ntfs defaults 0  2
[17:08] <BluesKaj> alainus, yeah , stick the moutpoint in there before type
[17:11] <alainus> BluesKaj, accorting to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html, The 6th column is a fsck option. fsck looks at the number in the 6th column to determine in which order the filesystems should be checked. If it's zero, fsck won't check the filesystem.
[17:11] <alainus> seems like that number is either 0 or 1
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ok , then try that
[17:12] <BluesKaj> I'm no fstab expert , it's try this try that
[17:14] <BluesKaj> a little self indulgence once /yr doesn't deserve a lecture of the obvious
[17:14] <BluesKaj> oops wrrrong chat
[18:46] <gerlos> hello everyone!
[19:03] <cornfeedhobo> hello!
[19:20] <gerlos> I'm creating a public samba share for any user in my network, and I'm going to create a cron script to remove from this share files older than 1 days
[19:22] <gerlos> my problem is that when users copy files there, they retain their modification date, so I can't use it as a reference for my remove script
[19:23] <gerlos> is there a way to "force" the samba server to change the modification date and time to tha date and time the user copied the file?
[19:34] <palasso> gerlos, what filesystem is that?
[19:37] <genii-around> Something that doesn't seem to support file touch times, apparently.
[19:38] <wissam> Hi ,does any one try kde 4.10 ? it it faster than 4.9 .4?
[19:45] <lordievader> wissam: I have KDE SC 4.10.1 running here on Raring. Runs quite stable. KDE SC 4.10 on my Quantal install also runs stable.
[19:46] <wissam> lordievader: i want to try it but i have a slow internet connection :(
[19:47] <lordievader> wissam: Leave it on for a night while updating ;)
[20:09] <murthy> !ta
[20:21] <jman074> can someone help me  i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it doesnt get past the boot screen. the screen starts with "starting load fallback graphics devices" and ends with "stopping save kernal messages" and its a list with all ok's
[20:25] <genii-around> jman074: What kind of video card do you have?
[20:25] <jman074> um dunno its a net book
[20:29] <cornfeedhobo> hello guys... normally i try to give help but today i need some. I am trying to setup a dual monitor DisplayLink docking station... everything about Quantal on the web says it should just work, but it doesnt. if some one that is good with the newer xrog setups could help me figure this out i would be very thankful
[20:30] <genii-around> !nomodeset | jman074  ...I would look here first
[20:44] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: I have no experience with DisplayLinks or docking stations, however what does the display manager of the KDE System Settings give you for options (or problems)?
[20:50] <cornfeedhobo> model: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Docking-Station-K33972US-sd3500v/dp/B009F7E730   lspci/usb: http://dpaste.org/0o6oX/
[20:50] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: nothing really it doesnt even notice them
[20:59] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Does udev see that you plug it in, how do you plug it in anyway, through usb? Docking port?
[20:59] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: To see udev output run in a terminal: sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev
[21:01] <goodtime_> ty lordievader
[21:02] <lordievader> goodtime_: ?
[21:03] <goodtime_> for the command lordievader.
[21:03] <goodtime_> ty
[21:03] <lordievader> goodtime_ = cornfeedhobo?
[21:03] <goodtime_> nope
[21:04] <jman0741> anyone know how to put different pictures on the other desktops for ubuntu
[21:04] <lordievader> goodtime_: Are you talking about the udev command? (I'm kind of confused -.-)
[21:04] <goodtime_> yes
[21:04] <goodtime_> yes i was lordievader
[21:05] <lordievader> goodtime_: Ah ok :) No problem ;)
[21:05] <goodtime_> :)
[21:06] <lordievader> jman0741: What do you mean exactly with other desktops, virtual desktop or secondary screens or something?
[21:06] <goodtime_> virtual for now
[21:07] <lordievader> jman0741: What do you mean exactly with other desktops, virtual desktop or secondary screens or something?
[21:07] <goodtime_> heh
[21:08] <jman074> lord
[21:08] <jman074> sorry i was disconnected
[21:08] <lordievader> goodtime_: I was talking to jman074 ;)
[21:08] <goodtime_> okay
[21:08] <jman074> so on my side menu i have a button that allows me for workspaces/desktops
[21:08] <jman074> all have the same picture
[21:09] <jman074> i want to put a diff pic on each one
[21:09] <goodtime_> idk did you try to right click on it
[21:09] <jman074> lol yep
[21:09] <cornfeedhobo> sorry. i keep getting support calls
[21:10] <goodtime_> maybe there a wiget for it
[21:10] <lordievader> jman074: Not sure if it is still posible, but appearantly it was possible in KDE SC 4.4: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/kde-4-4-want-different-wallpaper-for-virtual-desktops-808329/
[21:10] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: No problem.
[21:10] <jman074> ill check it out thanks
[21:12] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: yes its usb and udev does see it
[21:13] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Ok, so the kernel does see it. I'm starting to think that it is a driver issue. But I say again, I have no experience with docking-stations, so I could very well be wrong.
[21:14] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Does Kensington support linux with that docking-station, do they have a driver?
[21:15] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: nope. thats why its displaylink...supposed to be kernel support now
[21:16] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: i looked around and saw a bunch of stuff saying i should install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink but someone removed it from quantal citing it as obsolete
[21:16] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[21:17] <cornfeedhobo> quantal
[21:19] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Is this your post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2063143
[21:19] <cornfeedhobo> nope but i have read it
[21:21] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Have you read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202609/using-a-displaylink-usb-video-adapter-on-ubuntu-12-10
[21:21] <cornfeedhobo> i found http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/DisplayLink#Kernel but ubuntu doesnt have /proc/config.gz enabled
[21:22] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: nope...off to go try it out :-)
[21:22] <cornfeedhobo> brb
[21:23] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Good luck!
[21:25] <cornfeedhobo> thx... off to reboot now
[21:29] <cornfeedhobo> alright.. no luck
[21:29] <unheeding> wooo, got screenlocking working on raring through a workaround
[21:30] <unheeding> my system is secure!
[21:30] <lordievader> unheeding: Do you also have the loose focus bug after unlocking? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315093
[21:31] <robo_> How to get bottom bar for launching applications quickly ?
[21:32] <unheeding> lordievader: the screensaver lock doesn't work at all here.  there's a new lock screen in raring.  I had to use xscreensaver instead
[21:33] <lordievader> unheeding: Hmm, the default screen lock works for me. Raring + KDE SC 4.10.1
[21:33] <lordievader> Just that I have that loose focus bug.
[21:33] <unheeding> lordievader: any proprietary drivers installed?
[21:34] <lordievader> unheeding: Nope.
[21:34] <unheeding> that might be it
[21:36] <lordievader> cornfeedhobo: Perhaps this can help you: http://plugable.com/2011/12/23/usb-graphics-and-linux
[21:39] <lordievader> Be back later.
[21:46] <jman074> is anyone here runnin ubuntu 11.10
[21:52] <cornfeedhobo> lordievader: k thx
[21:56] <koleoptero> anybody in here using steam in kubuntu 12.10?
[21:57] <DarthFrog> koleoptero:  I was.  I'm using it in 13.04 now.
[21:57] <koleoptero> it isn't logging me in dammit
[21:57] <genii-around> koleoptero: Have you asked in #ubuntu-steam ?
[21:57] <DarthFrog> koleoptero:  Or better yet, #steamlug
[21:57] <koleoptero> there's a steam channel?
[21:58] <DarthFrog> Two.
[21:58] <koleoptero> awesome I'll ask there thanks
[21:58] <murthy> good night everyone
[22:02] <lordievader> Back :)
[22:08] <Daskreech> hi lordievader
[22:09] <lordievader> Hey Daskreech, how are you?
[22:10] <Daskreech> I'm good
[22:13] <jman074> okay back to my question is anyone runnin ubuntu 11.10
[22:15] <lordievader> jman074: 11.10 is supported until April of this year. Perhaps it is time to upgrade?
[22:16] <lordievader> jman074: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[22:17] <jman074> isnt there something i can type in the terminal to auto upgrade
[22:18] <lordievader> jman074: To upgrade make sure your system is updated and then run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:19] <jman074> upated with the sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:19] <jman074> ?
[22:21] <Y0Y0> update then upgrade yes
[22:21] <lordievader> jman074: Update: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:22] <jman074> yeh just recently did that like last week
[22:22] <jman074> so i should be go to go
[22:22] <lordievader> jman074: Do it again before running the do-release-upgrade.
[22:23] <lordievader> Not sure to what version 11.10 upgrades, might be 12.04 or right away to 12.10...
[22:24] <jman074> well i might need to back up my system before i do this
[22:25] <lordievader> jman074: Allways a good idea to do ;)
[22:25] <jman074> cuz if it messes up ill have to clone my hard drive to one with windows 8 and that would be tragic
[22:35] <lordievader> Well I'm off to bed, good luck with your upgrade jman074.
[23:38] <roasted> hello friends
[23:38] <roasted> Question - I'm running an auto hide panel with the icon only task manager. Every time I get an IM, the panel appears, which I don't want since I have the notification menu simultaneously notifying me that Kopete needs attention. Is there a way to turn off the fact that my auto hide panel appears upon each instance the app requests attention?
[23:40] <Y0Y0> Is it just for kopete or everything?
[23:42] <jman074> so i did sudo do release up grade and it says no new releases ;/