[00:47] <xnox> nexus7 charging dock is available, it keeps the usb port free - https://plus.google.com/112773496741623034196/posts/9iyD4fC688i
[00:48] <lilstevie> thats pretty cool
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[01:50] <twb> An HP t410 "thin client" just landed on my desk, and I want to bypass the HP crap and netboot images a la PXE.  A quick google suggests nobody has jailbroken these yet.  Anybody here heard any diferent?
[01:51] <twb> Oh look, the menus give you a root shell
[01:57] <twb> OK, so its existing image is booting off mtdblock, and it's got a 2.6.37-atlas uImage in /boot
[01:57] <twb> That means it's using u-boot as the bootloader, right?
[02:00] <infinity> twb: Seems plausible.
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[02:00] <twb> I can see the mtdblockN's but I don't know where I'd find the uboot config file (if there is one)
[02:03] <infinity> twb: Well, there could be an external config file on the same partition at the u-boot binary, if it's loading in the "first FAT partition" mode, or it could be burned into firmware, and u-boot has no config file, cause you're expected to setenv/saveenv from the u-boot prompt.
[02:03] <infinity> twb: The latter could prove problematic if there's no way to SEE a u-boot prompt.
[02:03]  * twb runs blkid on all the block devices he can dfind
[02:03] <twb> Apparently files.sotmarket.ru/instr/nettopy/hp/manual_hp_t410.pdf confirms that it's uboot
[02:07] <twb> Can only see a ext3 filesystem and a filesystem.sq inside it
[02:07] <twb> And yeah, when you boot it up, the screen doesn't appear to turn on until X starts
[02:07] <twb> (It's a single plastic box with an LCD and an arm computer inside; I haven't taken the housing off yet, so I dunno if there-
[02:08] <twb> aha, mtdblock5 is a uboot/ppcboot
[02:10] <twb> no sign of a fat with uboot config file yet
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[02:32] <twb> Sweet, found the uboot config tools -- they are fw_* not u*[bB]oot* which is why I didn't spot them
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[10:20] <darkfader> hi... did anyone find out news about the gps in the nexus7?
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[14:31] <zorky> hey. anyone here who can help me. i just got my  raspberry pi 512mb, and i need to get an os on the sd card. how do i do that? do i need a sd card reader or can i plug the raspberry in the computer with an usb cable?
[14:42] <mosasaur> 512 mb is maybe a bit small for a modern os
[14:44] <zorky> it's the model 2 with 512mb ram.. do i really need a sd card reader to install the os with? or can i connect it to the computer?
[14:56] <infinity> zorky: Ubuntu can't run on the Pi, so this is likely the wrong channel to be asking in.
[14:56] <infinity> zorky: http://www.raspbian.org/
[14:57] <infinity> zorky: The answer to your question, however, is that if the Pi doesn't currently have an OS, there's no way to use it to read/write an SD card, so you'd need to do so an another machine, yes.
[14:57] <infinity> s/do so an/do so on/
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[15:05] <Rjs> memory requirements depend entirely on what you're doing with it - 512Mb is plenty for many uses, including some graphical ones (e.g., my current desktop system uses 123 Mb right now, and an embedded PC I use as a digi-tv recorder uses 42 Mb, and I haven't done anything special to lower the memory use)
[15:06] <Rjs> but (as far as I've gathered) Ubuntu doesn't particularly target low-memory systems or use cases, so that may be another reason why this is the wrong channel :)
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[16:02] <infinity> Rjs: Memory has nothing to do with it, the Pi is armv6, and Ubuntu literally *can't* run on it.
[16:03] <ogra_> infinity, do you have any idea whom i should ping about dropping panda desktop images ?
[16:03]  * ogra_ is rwally not sure who can make such a decision
[16:04] <ogra_> *really
[16:04] <ogra_> but it doesnt look like we'll have pvr support in the long term
[16:04] <ogra_> even mid term
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[16:25] <infinity> ogra_: I'm happy to take that decision, and any fallout from it.
[16:26] <infinity> ogra_: Technically, Jason Warner "owns" the product, but I doubt he has an opinion.  You can ask to be nice, though.
[16:26] <ogra_> ok, will do
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[18:06] <xnox> ogra_: if you drop panda desktop, I'm shipping my panda to become a buildd, as nexus7 fully furfills my armhf needs. And panda here was a server / ubiquity-desktop testbed.
[18:07] <xnox> (server as in always on buildd, but I can totally fiddle with charging nexus7 in a more timely fashion)
[18:07] <xnox> (or whatever is the best use of an extra pandaboard - live builder / qa test machine / etc)
[18:08] <ogra_> yeah, well, if you want to do native builds an USB disk on a panda is definitely way better than building on the MMC of the nexus
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