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bkerensajcastro: are you or Robbie flying in for OpenStack Summit?01:33
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jcastroI am03:07
Tm_Tgood morning05:07
czajkowskimorning06:07
philipballewmorning czajkowski06:42
dholbachgood morning07:44
czajkowskinormal is restored dholbach is back online :)09:23
czajkowski*normality09:24
dholbachspeak for yourself - can't speak of restored normality here :-P10:00
jussiprecisely what is "normality" online...? :P10:29
* popey hugs pleia2 10:52
czajkowskiah yay mark blogged :D11:51
czajkowskigood11:51
jussiyeah, its a good post11:51
czajkowskiwe asked him to talk about how he felt about the RR idea and to be fair he hasn't be sold either way11:53
czajkowskiso it's good to see it's not a done deal11:53
jussiyeah11:54
jussiHe pretty specifically says there that he doesnt like a rolling release11:54
czajkowskiyup11:55
jussiI mean, this is a pretty nice clear statement:11:55
jussiIt’s nonsense to portray Rick’s position as a final position for Ubuntu. The TB have not weighed in,  the CC (who were briefed that the assessment was being made and that a straw man would be proposed) are still considering their perspective, and I’m not convinced either. So, for those inclined to melodrama, you may want to calm down and join the conversation.11:55
czajkowskiIt does seem to feel a bit like sky is falling lately11:55
czajkowskican be disheartening as well seeing all the posts11:56
jussiyeah, just a bit11:56
vibhavphew11:59
vibhavI am not feeling quite nice about so many people leaving :(11:59
AlanBellwell it is a pretty big direction change12:05
AlanBellthere is going to be a loss of some people, and perhaps a gain of others12:05
dakernot really some :)12:05
AlanBellit used to be about replacing windows XP on the corporate desktop, now it is all about individual consumer purchases and the app store12:07
AlanBellI can see that the latter is hugely more interesting to some people12:07
vibhavAlanBell: Turbulance is always temporary12:08
vibhav(From my experience)12:08
dholbachI'll write a blog post later on as well and tried to respond some of them in comments12:13
dholbachbut now it's lunch time - maybe walking the dog will help me put my thoughts in order :)12:13
popey\o/ lunch12:25
smartboyhwI am wondering: Had there been projects before that new Ubuntu members get interviewed?14:05
dakersmartboyhw: what are you talking about ?14:06
smartboyhwdaker: Sort of like this: After a new Ubuntu contributor became a member some people interview them and post them onto blogs so people can have a better reference to contribute to Ubuntu14:10
PiciIf they've already become an Ubuntu member then they really should already know about contributing to Ubuntu.14:11
popeyusually people just introduce themselves to the planet when they get membership14:11
popeythats how it used to work anyway14:11
smartboyhwPici no the interviews will provide experiences to NEW contributors14:12
smartboyhwpopey: How about if they don't14:12
smartboyhw?14:12
Picismartboyhw: maybe I misunderstood the question.14:12
Picipopey: thats what I did.14:12
jussismartboyhw: the forums has interviews sometimes15:07
smartboyhwjussi hmm I never saw it (I am an active member of it)15:08
balloonssmartboyhw, some members like to interview.. but you've got a blogroll on planet -- post an interview of yourself if you wish :-)15:16
smartboyhwballoons no.............. It would be ridiculous for me to do so15:17
balloonssmartboyhw, I'd be happy to do it for you if you wish :-)15:17
smartboyhwballoons: Maybe we should start interviewing QA people!!!!!!!!!15:18
smartboyhwPR...:-P15:18
balloonssmartboyhw, it's on the table certainly.. not everyone likes the idea.. but if you do, I'd be happy to help15:18
smartboyhwballoons: Let's roll!!!15:21
SergioMeneseshi all!15:23
smartboyhwHey SergioMeneses15:26
balloonssmartboyhw, we miss you on #ubuntu-quality15:29
smartboyhwballoons coming15:30
jonodpm, will be there in a min16:00
dpmjono, ok, we're there already16:01
dpmmhall119, joining the app showdown call?16:01
jonoballoons, can you join a hangout now?16:26
balloonsjono, sure thing16:27
balloonsgive me a min16:27
jonoballoons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3810dbf8c1724ec547677323909eba667007e58316:28
balloonsdpm, let me know who your SDK contact is and I'll work with them to get docs going. Popey, if you could send me the link to the ppa and meta-package, I'll get rolling16:59
dpmballoons, sure, I'll do that after this meeting17:03
popeydpm: metapackage doesn't currently exist17:12
popeydpm: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily is the ppa17:12
dakersomeone is importing nemo stuff into the filemanager app https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/trunk/revision/317:23
* pleia2 hugs popey 18:17
popeypodcast went out today btw18:24
popeysound quality was really good18:24
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balloonsrrnwexec, http://randall.executiv.es/ubuntu-stage-next +120:44
rrnwexecthanks balloons.20:44
jonorrnwexec, ditto, nice post20:46
rrnwexecthanks jono.20:46
Davieyrrnwexec: Don't know if you agree it's relevant, but I found this analyse of project growth interesting - http://okdork.com/2012/09/29/why-i-got-fired-from-facebook-a-100-million-dollar-lesson/20:54
DavieyWhat i find sad, is that Rick raised a discussion point on ubuntu-devel.. and people quit over it.. He'll no doubt be afraid to raise discussion points in the future.. which is not the community i want.20:55
AlanBellwhy did nobody believe it was a discussion point?20:57
rrnwexecthanks Daviey. very interesting read. it's relevant.21:00
jonoanyone mind redditing http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/08/thoughts-on-recent-community-concerns/ ?23:37
bkerensajono: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/19vm71/jono_bacon_thoughts_on_recent_community_concerns/23:46
jonothanks bkerensa23:48
snap-ljono: http://decafbad.net/2013/03/07/the-ubuntu-community-collaborator-or-contributor/23:56
snap-lI think this is where the crux of the issue lies.23:56
bkerensasnap-l: indeed... It seems the community wants to be a stakeholder and not just a contributor of works23:58

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