| xnox | plars: balloons: there is a new nexus7 dock that supports charging via pongs while keeping the usb-port free...... =) | 00:43 |
|---|---|---|
| xnox | pongs being the connection points on the left sides, bottom. | 00:44 |
| xnox | https://plus.google.com/112773496741623034196/posts/9iyD4fC688i | 00:47 |
| plars | xnox: it's about time | 01:19 |
| xnox | plars: i guess they'll be sold out rather quickly, just like the nexus4 bumpers. | 01:20 |
| xnox | pgraner: ^^^^ do we want / need charging docks for nexus7/qalab =) | 01:20 |
| plars | xnox: unfortunately while helping with some problems, it doesn't help with others. But those are getting worked on and a lot are already resolved | 01:21 |
| xnox | plars: fair enough ;-) | 01:21 |
| plars | xnox: the price is not bad on them, though I do wonder how stable the connection is. The pogo pins seem very susceptible to being bumped | 01:22 |
| plars | tablet slides sideways by 1mm in the dock, and no more power | 01:22 |
| plars | I wonder how securely it holds it | 01:22 |
| xnox | *sigh* | 01:35 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:50 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:45 |
| pitti | hey dholbach | 07:45 |
| dholbach | hi pitti | 07:45 |
| vibhav | good morning | 09:24 |
| zyga | good morning | 09:30 |
| xnox | psivaa: have you noticed any other bugs with webcam step? | 12:17 |
| xnox | psivaa: why is removal of webcam step linked to results in the iso-tracker? | 12:17 |
| xnox | (this is a pure design / ubiquity restructuring planning and not driven by "bugs" / "brokeness" of the webcam step) | 12:18 |
| psivaa | xnox: well i added it to the tracker because at the moment the webcam does not work during the installation. That being in the tracker would stop bugs like, 1142751 | 12:19 |
| psivaa | bug 1142751 | 12:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1142751 in ubiquity "Webcam screen broken during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1142751 | 12:20 |
| xnox | psivaa: that's an over-generalisation. That's only one personal reporting visual corruption on the view port with an unknown webcam without any installer logs attached. | 12:20 |
| xnox | psivaa: you should link bug 1142751 to the isotracker, not the "wishlist requests to remove webcam step". | 12:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1142751 in ubiquity "Webcam screen broken during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1142751 | 12:21 |
| xnox | psivaa: the webcam step certainly works locally here for me in ubiquity, on my machines. But I fear if this is a bug/regression in the underlying gstreamer library. | 12:22 |
| psivaa | xnox: ohh ok, will any webcam related bugs fixed for raring? | 12:22 |
| xnox | psivaa: we should be undressing them, yes. Without further investigation, it's hard to tell if it's a general webcam bugs in our stack vs ubiquity-specific webcam bug. | 12:23 |
| xnox | And we do want webcams to work on ubuntu. Hangouts, video chat etc are very mainstream =) | 12:23 |
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| psivaa | xnox: ok, theses bugs are only during installation but ok ill see if the wishlist bug could be removed from the tracker | 12:27 |
| xnox | psivaa: yeah, it doesn't fail the install or anything like that, but it does exercise our gstreamer stack fairy well =) | 12:40 |
| xnox | s/fairy/fairly/ =) | 12:41 |
| psivaa | xnox: ok sorry about that :), it appears stgraber is one that could remove it | 13:58 |
| xnox | psivaa: yeah, he can do anything on that website =) | 13:58 |
| psivaa | stgraber: would you be able to remove bug 1118589 from the iso tracker please? | 13:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1118589 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "Please remove WebCam step" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1118589 | 13:59 |
| stgraber | psivaa: done | 14:20 |
| psivaa | stgraber: thank you | 14:20 |
| psivaa | xnox: ^ and I have removed the tag from the bug | 14:21 |
| xnox | \o/ thank you guys =) | 14:21 |
| xnox | psivaa: and it's a real bug in clutter-gst shaders which me and Laney are working to fix. | 14:22 |
| psivaa | xnox: ok, thanks for that | 14:22 |
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| zyga | spineau: do you want to keep checking your network to see why vagrant up failed for you? | 15:12 |
| spineau | zyga: that would be cool but I don't really see a log entry to start debugging the issue | 15:13 |
| zyga | spineau: ok, I think I know how to quickly check this | 15:16 |
| zyga | spineau: unset VAGRANT_APT_CACHE | 15:16 |
| zyga | spineau: vagrant destroy -f | 15:16 |
| zyga | spineau: vagrant up precise | 15:16 |
| zyga | spineau: then tell me if you see apt-get errors again or do you see slow but normal package installs | 15:17 |
| zyga | er | 15:17 |
| zyga | no, that's correct | 15:17 |
| SergioMeneses | morning! | 15:21 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, hello | 15:25 |
| zyga | spineau, brendand, roadmr: I'm going to land the vagrant fix and see what of the currently approved set can land | 15:27 |
| spineau | zyga: sure | 15:28 |
| smartboyhw | Hiyas | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | balloons ^ | 15:31 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, ;-p | 15:32 |
| balloons | so cadence week 8 is going to be starting up.. | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | yep | 15:32 |
| * balloons rattles head | 15:32 | |
| smartboyhw | lol | 15:33 |
| balloons | as usual, I'm open to discussions on what to include | 15:33 |
| balloons | so, SergioMeneses, smartboyhw , thoughts? | 15:33 |
| smartboyhw | KDE? | 15:33 |
| balloons | If possible there are some new tests I'd like to push into the cadence | 15:33 |
| balloons | We need the upgrade (from image) test to be finished | 15:34 |
| zyga | spineau, roadmr, brendand: tarmac started, the order of merges is random, I cannot improve that -- if it fails I'll re-approve the proposals that get borked | 15:35 |
| zyga | oh, the right branch is first, cool | 15:35 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, thoughts about what? | 15:37 |
| * SergioMeneses is reading The Planet | 15:38 | |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, yes, lots of reviewing and reading | 15:38 |
| balloons | :-p | 15:38 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, thoughts on what to look at for cadence week 8 | 15:38 |
| smartboyhw | balloons upgrade tests are good | 15:39 |
| SergioMeneses | mmm.... | 15:39 |
| SergioMeneses | daily testing | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | SergioMeneses: Laptop testing?0 | 15:40 |
| smartboyhw | We need applications tests.... | 15:40 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, yes, we need more testcases and make testing | 15:41 |
| SergioMeneses | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/258/builds | 15:41 |
| smartboyhw | hmm what to do? | 15:42 |
| * smartboyhw might have to finish his Transmission testcase tmr | 15:42 | |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, I hope so | 15:42 |
| * SergioMeneses hides | 15:42 | |
| smartboyhw | balloons: autopilot? | 15:43 |
| smartboyhw | Or flavour images testing? | 15:43 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, yes new app tests would be great | 15:43 |
| smartboyhw | Or??????????????????????????????? | 15:43 |
| SergioMeneses | autopilot again? | 15:44 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 15:44 |
| balloons | mm.. probably not autopilot, as we're close on some cool things, but not ready yet | 15:44 |
| SergioMeneses | do we have more features? | 15:44 |
| SergioMeneses | ok | 15:44 |
| smartboyhw | balloons what are the cool things!?!?!? | 15:44 |
| balloons | converting everything to introspection.. but the coolest is using umockdev.. what it allows is to create fake hardware (by using real hw) to test things that need it | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | wow | 15:45 |
| SergioMeneses | :O | 15:45 |
| balloons | for instance, testing shotwell.. and having a virtual camera to go with it :-) | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | XD | 15:45 |
| balloons | carla has been working on it for a bit.. | 15:46 |
| smartboyhw | I want that now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 15:46 |
| smartboyhw | balloons, great letozaf_ (Carla's nick right?* | 15:46 |
| balloons | I'd also like to continue the bug confirmation idea we did last time | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | balloons uh | 15:47 |
| balloons | I've not yet gone to look and see if we managed to shrink the open ubiquity stuff | 15:47 |
| balloons | I'd like us to go after open issues we've found during the cycle | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | balloons how about VirtualBox? Fixed? | 15:48 |
| zyga | woot, tarmac lands checkbox fix for CI loop based on vagrant | 15:48 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, u mean testdrive + vbox? | 15:48 |
| balloons | if so, yes, yes it is :-) | 15:48 |
| * xnox ponders if umockdev can fake hard-drives. | 15:48 | |
| smartboyhw | balloons good | 15:49 |
| * zyga thinks that mocking is great but setting up real hardware is better for actual resutls | 15:49 | |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, can we add ubuntu-friendly to our cadence wee someday? | 15:49 |
| SergioMeneses | *week | 15:49 |
| zyga | especially for performance regressions and quirks/odd hardware that you can just plug to an existing system overnight | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | SergioMeneses of course.b. | 15:50 |
| balloons | xnox, I was thinking about exotic hardware as well.. disk controllers, tv tuners, etc | 15:50 |
| SergioMeneses | i think it would interesting and we can spreading UF a lot! | 15:51 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, certainly we can have uf be a part.. atm, using the laptop tracker to test hw is better (so we do that instead) for ensuring we get the results | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: For TV tuners contact the Mythbuntu. | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | team | 15:52 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, :-) At one point I was interested.. I don't watch tv anymore | 15:52 |
| smartboyhw | balloons whoa?!!!!???!??!?!?! | 15:52 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, lol.. scary eh? haven't for years.. I gave away the tv i inherited last year after never plugging it in | 15:55 |
| balloons | xnox, whoa -- there's an xchat-indicator? http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2013/02/x-chat-power-user-upload.html | 15:55 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, watch tv on the laptop | 15:56 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, yes.. in many ways, that's where we are at.. anyways, back to reality :-) | 15:56 |
| smartboyhw | Back | 15:58 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, ++ | 15:58 |
| smartboyhw | SergioMeneses, ? | 15:58 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, you're back! anyway balloons can we publish something official about testing in the UGJ? I see "the planet" and cry | 16:01 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, yes, I am working on some communication from me personally, and of course some words about quality and what we're doing | 16:01 |
| smartboyhw | SergioMeneses we might need to. | 16:01 |
| balloons | in short, nothing changes at the moment for us.. we discussed how we would work in a rolling world, and we know how we operate now.. | 16:02 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: how? | 16:02 |
| balloons | I don't want to diatribe too much here.. but if they change focus towards faster cadences, we know how to do that.. | 16:02 |
| balloons | we don't want to be overwhelmed with things however | 16:03 |
| smartboyhw | yep | 16:03 |
| balloons | I caught a bit of the flavors discussion, and I'll have some words on that | 16:03 |
| smartboyhw | balloons YAY | 16:03 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, perfect! | 16:03 |
| balloons | I'm with you however -- digesting and responding ;-) | 16:04 |
| * smartboyhw waits for blog post | 16:04 | |
| njin | balloons, I write the first testcase (upgrade) and downloaded the bzr | 16:15 |
| balloons | njin, excellent | 16:16 |
| balloons | we were talking about wanting to use it next week for cadence week 8 | 16:16 |
| smartboyhw | yeah | 16:16 |
| njin | balloons, now the next step is to insert my file into image and push to the bzr ? | 16:16 |
| smartboyhw | njin yes | 16:17 |
| smartboyhw | Make sure you run bzr add | 16:17 |
| njin | ok, the file number is assigned by the revisioner ' | 16:17 |
| njin | ? | 16:18 |
| balloons | njin, yes.. since it's new, you can upload without a number | 16:18 |
| balloons | ohh | 16:18 |
| balloons | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide | 16:18 |
| balloons | that will be helpful ^^ | 16:19 |
| smartboyhw | njin: Normally it would be the testcase no. in the QA Tracker | 16:19 |
| njin | is a new testcase | 16:19 |
| balloons | njin, yea check out that page | 16:19 |
| balloons | it will explain things.. | 16:19 |
| njin | ok, looking | 16:20 |
| balloons | njin, looking ;-) | 16:51 |
| njin | thanks | 16:51 |
| balloons | hmm.. the diff is blank | 16:53 |
| balloons | did you add the new file to your branch? | 16:53 |
| balloons | you have to use bzr add FILENAME | 16:53 |
| njin | ok, redo things | 16:53 |
| balloons | njin, https://code.launchpad.net/~fabiomarconi/ubuntu-manual-tests/upgrade_from_image | 16:53 |
| SergioMeneses | maybe njin could use: bzr diff | 16:53 |
| balloons | yea, I don't see a commit from you in there yet | 16:54 |
| balloons | overall.. you need to do this | 16:54 |
| balloons | 1) create new file | 16:54 |
| balloons | 2) use bzr add FILENAME | 16:54 |
| balloons | 3) bzr commit | 16:54 |
| balloons | 4) bzr push | 16:54 |
| balloons | make sense? you make the file, add it to the branch.. commit the branch, and then finally push it to launchpad | 16:54 |
| * balloons is excited | 16:55 | |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, about? | 16:55 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, multi-tasking certainly, but yes ;0 | 16:55 |
| SergioMeneses | :O :) | 16:55 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 16:55 |
| balloons | njin, looks like it worked :-) | 17:06 |
| balloons | I see the test | 17:06 |
| njin | ok, thanks | 17:07 |
| SergioMeneses | congrats njin :) | 17:07 |
| balloons | So basically what happens now is it will be reviewed, then merged into the trunk and synced to the tracker | 17:07 |
| balloons | and yes congrats... :-) You are free to make testcases now! Go forth and write! | 17:08 |
| njin | ok, but for the other part we need to wait for the fix (upgrade inserting the media in the running system) | 17:08 |
| balloons | njin, ohh right! good point. can we get another bug report on our tracker for that? and link to the launchpad bug for the fix? | 17:10 |
| njin | balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1152148 | 17:10 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1152148 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "inserting a live media it run software-center instead of ubuntu-relase-upgrader" [Undecided,New] | 17:10 |
| balloons | njin perfect.. can you open the bug on our tracker so we can track our need for the testcase for it? | 17:10 |
| njin | sure | 17:11 |
| balloons | thanks! | 17:11 |
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| Noskcaj | balloons, someone killed the lubuntu installer theme, and phillw is AFK. can you try and get someone to confirm it, i haven't had time to make a bug | 19:38 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, on the daily eh? | 19:38 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, morning :-) | 19:39 |
| Noskcaj | balloons, morning, yeah | 19:39 |
| Noskcaj | or about a week | 19:39 |
| balloons | I'll be back in a bit.. you can always ping | 19:39 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 19:40 |
| balloons | on #lubuntu | 19:41 |
| balloons | or the mailing list if no one is about | 19:41 |
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| Noskcaj | bug 1152306 | 19:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1152306 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu installer theme is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152306 | 19:59 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: it's absolutely fine. | 20:03 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: there is no background, but that is pending on ubiquity upload. | 20:04 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: to be done now. | 20:04 |
| balloons | xnox, Noskcaj ahh.. yea, so it's a black background.. Noskcaj you'll notice little things like that throughout the cycles.. anything that has to do with art will get updated at some point during the cycle | 20:04 |
| balloons | for instance, the fact it still says 12.10 everywhere (or did.. it's getting close to time that should be fixed) | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | not the black background, the window theme itself, note the blue-ness | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | and the minimise button | 20:06 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: a screenshot of what you'd expect it to be would be nice. E.g. on a working lubuntu install package ubiquity, launch it and take a comparison screenshot. | 20:06 |
| xnox | cause I don't know / use lubuntu so no idea what it is meant to look like =) overall it looks fine to me at first glance. | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | i'm afraid i don't have one, maybe google images has it | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | http://i52.tinypic.com/v7s1e9.jpg | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | xnox, screencap added | 20:28 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: thanks. | 20:28 |
| balloons | thx :-) | 20:30 |
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