[00:43] plars: balloons: there is a new nexus7 dock that supports charging via pongs while keeping the usb-port free...... =) [00:44] pongs being the connection points on the left sides, bottom. [00:47] https://plus.google.com/112773496741623034196/posts/9iyD4fC688i [01:19] xnox: it's about time [01:20] plars: i guess they'll be sold out rather quickly, just like the nexus4 bumpers. [01:20] pgraner: ^^^^ do we want / need charging docks for nexus7/qalab =) [01:21] xnox: unfortunately while helping with some problems, it doesn't help with others. But those are getting worked on and a lot are already resolved [01:21] plars: fair enough ;-) [01:22] xnox: the price is not bad on them, though I do wonder how stable the connection is. The pogo pins seem very susceptible to being bumped [01:22] tablet slides sideways by 1mm in the dock, and no more power [01:22] I wonder how securely it holds it [01:35] *sigh* === vibhav is now known as Guest48005 === Guest48005 is now known as vibhav [05:50] Good morning [07:45] good morning [07:45] hey dholbach [07:45] hi pitti [09:24] good morning [09:30] good morning [12:17] psivaa: have you noticed any other bugs with webcam step? [12:17] psivaa: why is removal of webcam step linked to results in the iso-tracker? [12:18] (this is a pure design / ubiquity restructuring planning and not driven by "bugs" / "brokeness" of the webcam step) [12:19] xnox: well i added it to the tracker because at the moment the webcam does not work during the installation. That being in the tracker would stop bugs like, 1142751 [12:19] bug 1142751 [12:20] bug 1142751 in ubiquity "Webcam screen broken during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1142751 [12:20] psivaa: that's an over-generalisation. That's only one personal reporting visual corruption on the view port with an unknown webcam without any installer logs attached. [12:21] psivaa: you should link bug 1142751 to the isotracker, not the "wishlist requests to remove webcam step". [12:21] bug 1142751 in ubiquity "Webcam screen broken during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1142751 [12:22] psivaa: the webcam step certainly works locally here for me in ubiquity, on my machines. But I fear if this is a bug/regression in the underlying gstreamer library. [12:22] xnox: ohh ok, will any webcam related bugs fixed for raring? [12:23] psivaa: we should be undressing them, yes. Without further investigation, it's hard to tell if it's a general webcam bugs in our stack vs ubiquity-specific webcam bug. [12:23] And we do want webcams to work on ubuntu. Hangouts, video chat etc are very mainstream =) === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:27] xnox: ok, theses bugs are only during installation but ok ill see if the wishlist bug could be removed from the tracker [12:40] psivaa: yeah, it doesn't fail the install or anything like that, but it does exercise our gstreamer stack fairy well =) [12:41] s/fairy/fairly/ =) [13:58] xnox: ok sorry about that :), it appears stgraber is one that could remove it [13:58] psivaa: yeah, he can do anything on that website =) [13:59] stgraber: would you be able to remove bug 1118589 from the iso tracker please? [13:59] bug 1118589 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "Please remove WebCam step" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1118589 [14:20] psivaa: done [14:20] stgraber: thank you [14:21] xnox: ^ and I have removed the tag from the bug [14:21] \o/ thank you guys =) [14:22] psivaa: and it's a real bug in clutter-gst shaders which me and Laney are working to fix. [14:22] xnox: ok, thanks for that === chuck_ is now known as zul [15:12] spineau: do you want to keep checking your network to see why vagrant up failed for you? [15:13] zyga: that would be cool but I don't really see a log entry to start debugging the issue [15:16] spineau: ok, I think I know how to quickly check this [15:16] spineau: unset VAGRANT_APT_CACHE [15:16] spineau: vagrant destroy -f [15:16] spineau: vagrant up precise [15:17] spineau: then tell me if you see apt-get errors again or do you see slow but normal package installs [15:17] er [15:17] no, that's correct [15:21] morning! [15:25] SergioMeneses, hello [15:27] spineau, brendand, roadmr: I'm going to land the vagrant fix and see what of the currently approved set can land [15:28] zyga: sure [15:30] Hiyas [15:31] balloons ^ [15:32] smartboyhw, ;-p [15:32] so cadence week 8 is going to be starting up.. [15:32] yep [15:32] * balloons rattles head [15:33] lol [15:33] as usual, I'm open to discussions on what to include [15:33] so, SergioMeneses, smartboyhw , thoughts? [15:33] KDE? [15:33] If possible there are some new tests I'd like to push into the cadence [15:34] We need the upgrade (from image) test to be finished [15:35] spineau, roadmr, brendand: tarmac started, the order of merges is random, I cannot improve that -- if it fails I'll re-approve the proposals that get borked [15:35] oh, the right branch is first, cool [15:37] balloons, thoughts about what? [15:38] * SergioMeneses is reading The Planet [15:38] SergioMeneses, yes, lots of reviewing and reading [15:38] :-p [15:38] SergioMeneses, thoughts on what to look at for cadence week 8 [15:39] balloons upgrade tests are good [15:39] mmm.... [15:39] daily testing [15:40] SergioMeneses: Laptop testing?0 [15:40] We need applications tests.... [15:41] smartboyhw, yes, we need more testcases and make testing [15:41] http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/258/builds [15:42] hmm what to do? [15:42] * smartboyhw might have to finish his Transmission testcase tmr [15:42] smartboyhw, I hope so [15:42] * SergioMeneses hides [15:43] balloons: autopilot? [15:43] Or flavour images testing? [15:43] smartboyhw, yes new app tests would be great [15:43] Or??????????????????????????????? [15:44] autopilot again? [15:44] lol [15:44] mm.. probably not autopilot, as we're close on some cool things, but not ready yet [15:44] do we have more features? [15:44] ok [15:44] balloons what are the cool things!?!?!? [15:45] converting everything to introspection.. but the coolest is using umockdev.. what it allows is to create fake hardware (by using real hw) to test things that need it [15:45] wow [15:45] :O [15:45] for instance, testing shotwell.. and having a virtual camera to go with it :-) [15:45] XD [15:46] carla has been working on it for a bit.. [15:46] I want that now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:46] balloons, great letozaf_ (Carla's nick right?* [15:47] I'd also like to continue the bug confirmation idea we did last time [15:47] balloons uh [15:47] I've not yet gone to look and see if we managed to shrink the open ubiquity stuff [15:47] I'd like us to go after open issues we've found during the cycle [15:48] balloons how about VirtualBox? Fixed? [15:48] woot, tarmac lands checkbox fix for CI loop based on vagrant [15:48] smartboyhw, u mean testdrive + vbox? [15:48] if so, yes, yes it is :-) [15:48] * xnox ponders if umockdev can fake hard-drives. [15:49] balloons good [15:49] * zyga thinks that mocking is great but setting up real hardware is better for actual resutls [15:49] balloons, can we add ubuntu-friendly to our cadence wee someday? [15:49] *week [15:49] especially for performance regressions and quirks/odd hardware that you can just plug to an existing system overnight [15:50] SergioMeneses of course.b. [15:50] xnox, I was thinking about exotic hardware as well.. disk controllers, tv tuners, etc [15:51] i think it would interesting and we can spreading UF a lot! [15:51] SergioMeneses, certainly we can have uf be a part.. atm, using the laptop tracker to test hw is better (so we do that instead) for ensuring we get the results [15:51] balloons: For TV tuners contact the Mythbuntu. [15:52] team [15:52] smartboyhw, :-) At one point I was interested.. I don't watch tv anymore [15:52] balloons whoa?!!!!???!??!?!?! [15:55] smartboyhw, lol.. scary eh? haven't for years.. I gave away the tv i inherited last year after never plugging it in [15:55] xnox, whoa -- there's an xchat-indicator? http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2013/02/x-chat-power-user-upload.html [15:56] balloons, watch tv on the laptop [15:56] SergioMeneses, yes.. in many ways, that's where we are at.. anyways, back to reality :-) [15:58] Back [15:58] smartboyhw, ++ [15:58] SergioMeneses, ? [16:01] smartboyhw, you're back! anyway balloons can we publish something official about testing in the UGJ? I see "the planet" and cry [16:01] SergioMeneses, yes, I am working on some communication from me personally, and of course some words about quality and what we're doing [16:01] SergioMeneses we might need to. [16:02] in short, nothing changes at the moment for us.. we discussed how we would work in a rolling world, and we know how we operate now.. [16:02] balloons: how? [16:02] I don't want to diatribe too much here.. but if they change focus towards faster cadences, we know how to do that.. [16:03] we don't want to be overwhelmed with things however [16:03] yep [16:03] I caught a bit of the flavors discussion, and I'll have some words on that [16:03] balloons YAY [16:03] balloons, perfect! [16:04] I'm with you however -- digesting and responding ;-) [16:04] * smartboyhw waits for blog post [16:15] balloons, I write the first testcase (upgrade) and downloaded the bzr [16:16] njin, excellent [16:16] we were talking about wanting to use it next week for cadence week 8 [16:16] yeah [16:16] balloons, now the next step is to insert my file into image and push to the bzr ? [16:17] njin yes [16:17] Make sure you run bzr add [16:17] ok, the file number is assigned by the revisioner ' [16:18] ? [16:18] njin, yes.. since it's new, you can upload without a number [16:18] ohh [16:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide [16:19] that will be helpful ^^ [16:19] njin: Normally it would be the testcase no. in the QA Tracker [16:19] is a new testcase [16:19] njin, yea check out that page [16:19] it will explain things.. [16:20] ok, looking [16:51] njin, looking ;-) [16:51] thanks [16:53] hmm.. the diff is blank [16:53] did you add the new file to your branch? [16:53] you have to use bzr add FILENAME [16:53] ok, redo things [16:53] njin, https://code.launchpad.net/~fabiomarconi/ubuntu-manual-tests/upgrade_from_image [16:53] maybe njin could use: bzr diff [16:54] yea, I don't see a commit from you in there yet [16:54] overall.. you need to do this [16:54] 1) create new file [16:54] 2) use bzr add FILENAME [16:54] 3) bzr commit [16:54] 4) bzr push [16:54] make sense? you make the file, add it to the branch.. commit the branch, and then finally push it to launchpad [16:55] * balloons is excited [16:55] balloons, about? [16:55] SergioMeneses, multi-tasking certainly, but yes ;0 [16:55] :O :) [16:55] lol [17:06] njin, looks like it worked :-) [17:06] I see the test [17:07] ok, thanks [17:07] congrats njin :) [17:07] So basically what happens now is it will be reviewed, then merged into the trunk and synced to the tracker [17:08] and yes congrats... :-) You are free to make testcases now! Go forth and write! [17:08] ok, but for the other part we need to wait for the fix (upgrade inserting the media in the running system) [17:10] njin, ohh right! good point. can we get another bug report on our tracker for that? and link to the launchpad bug for the fix? [17:10] balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1152148 [17:10] Launchpad bug 1152148 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "inserting a live media it run software-center instead of ubuntu-relase-upgrader" [Undecided,New] [17:10] njin perfect.. can you open the bug on our tracker so we can track our need for the testcase for it? [17:11] sure [17:11] thanks! === zyga_ is now known as zyga [19:38] balloons, someone killed the lubuntu installer theme, and phillw is AFK. can you try and get someone to confirm it, i haven't had time to make a bug [19:38] Noskcaj, on the daily eh? [19:39] Noskcaj, morning :-) [19:39] balloons, morning, yeah [19:39] or about a week [19:39] I'll be back in a bit.. you can always ping [19:40] ok [19:41] on #lubuntu [19:41] or the mailing list if no one is about === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [19:59] bug 1152306 [19:59] bug 1152306 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu installer theme is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152306 [20:03] Noskcaj: it's absolutely fine. [20:04] Noskcaj: there is no background, but that is pending on ubiquity upload. [20:04] Noskcaj: to be done now. [20:04] xnox, Noskcaj ahh.. yea, so it's a black background.. Noskcaj you'll notice little things like that throughout the cycles.. anything that has to do with art will get updated at some point during the cycle [20:05] for instance, the fact it still says 12.10 everywhere (or did.. it's getting close to time that should be fixed) [20:05] not the black background, the window theme itself, note the blue-ness [20:06] and the minimise button [20:06] Noskcaj: a screenshot of what you'd expect it to be would be nice. E.g. on a working lubuntu install package ubiquity, launch it and take a comparison screenshot. [20:06] cause I don't know / use lubuntu so no idea what it is meant to look like =) overall it looks fine to me at first glance. [20:06] i'm afraid i don't have one, maybe google images has it [20:07] http://i52.tinypic.com/v7s1e9.jpg [20:28] xnox, screencap added [20:28] Noskcaj: thanks. [20:30] thx :-) === Noskcaj is now known as Noskcaj_AFK === Noskcaj_AFK is now known as Noskcaj === salem_` is now known as _salem