[00:43] <xnox> plars: balloons: there is a new nexus7 dock that supports charging via pongs while keeping the usb-port free...... =)
[00:44] <xnox> pongs being the connection points on the left sides, bottom.
[00:47] <xnox> https://plus.google.com/112773496741623034196/posts/9iyD4fC688i
[01:19] <plars> xnox: it's about time
[01:20] <xnox> plars: i guess they'll be sold out rather quickly, just like the nexus4 bumpers.
[01:20] <xnox> pgraner: ^^^^ do we want / need charging docks for nexus7/qalab =)
[01:21] <plars> xnox: unfortunately while helping with some problems, it doesn't help with others. But those are getting worked on and a lot are already resolved
[01:21] <xnox> plars: fair enough ;-)
[01:22] <plars> xnox: the price is not bad on them, though I do wonder how stable the connection is. The pogo pins seem very susceptible to being bumped
[01:22] <plars> tablet slides sideways by 1mm in the dock, and no more power
[01:22] <plars> I wonder how securely it holds it
[01:35] <xnox> *sigh*
[05:50] <pitti> Good morning
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <pitti> hey dholbach
[07:45] <dholbach> hi pitti
[09:24] <vibhav> good morning
[09:30] <zyga> good morning
[12:17] <xnox> psivaa: have you noticed any other bugs with webcam step?
[12:17] <xnox> psivaa: why is removal of webcam step linked to results in the iso-tracker?
[12:18] <xnox> (this is a pure design / ubiquity restructuring planning and not driven by "bugs" / "brokeness" of the webcam step)
[12:19] <psivaa> xnox: well i added it to the tracker because at the moment the webcam does not work during the installation. That being in the tracker would stop bugs like, 1142751
[12:19] <psivaa> bug 1142751
[12:20] <xnox> psivaa: that's an over-generalisation. That's only one personal reporting visual corruption on the view port with an unknown webcam without any installer logs attached.
[12:21] <xnox> psivaa: you should link bug 1142751 to the isotracker, not the "wishlist requests to remove webcam step".
[12:22] <xnox> psivaa: the webcam step certainly works locally here for me in ubiquity, on my machines. But I fear if this is a bug/regression in the underlying gstreamer library.
[12:22] <psivaa> xnox: ohh ok, will any webcam related bugs fixed for raring?
[12:23] <xnox> psivaa: we should be undressing them, yes. Without further investigation, it's hard to tell if it's a general webcam bugs in our stack vs ubiquity-specific webcam bug.
[12:23] <xnox> And we do want webcams to work on ubuntu. Hangouts, video chat etc are very mainstream =)
[12:27] <psivaa> xnox: ok, theses bugs are only during installation but ok ill see if the wishlist bug could be removed from the tracker
[12:40] <xnox> psivaa: yeah, it doesn't fail the install or anything like that, but it does exercise our gstreamer stack fairy well =)
[12:41] <xnox> s/fairy/fairly/ =)
[13:58] <psivaa> xnox: ok sorry about that :), it appears stgraber is one that could remove it
[13:58] <xnox> psivaa: yeah, he can do anything on that website =)
[13:59] <psivaa> stgraber: would you be able to remove bug 1118589 from the iso tracker please?
[14:20] <stgraber> psivaa: done
[14:20] <psivaa> stgraber: thank you
[14:21] <psivaa> xnox: ^ and I have removed the tag from the bug
[14:21] <xnox> \o/ thank you guys =)
[14:22] <xnox> psivaa: and it's a real bug in clutter-gst shaders which me and Laney are working to fix.
[14:22] <psivaa> xnox: ok, thanks for that
[15:12] <zyga> spineau: do you want to keep checking your network to see why vagrant up failed for you?
[15:13] <spineau> zyga: that would be cool but I don't really see a log entry to start debugging the issue
[15:16] <zyga> spineau: ok, I think I know how to quickly check this
[15:16] <zyga> spineau: unset VAGRANT_APT_CACHE
[15:16] <zyga> spineau: vagrant destroy -f
[15:16] <zyga> spineau: vagrant up precise
[15:17] <zyga> spineau: then tell me if you see apt-get errors again or do you see slow but normal package installs
[15:17] <zyga> er
[15:17] <zyga> no, that's correct
[15:21] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[15:25] <balloons> SergioMeneses, hello
[15:27] <zyga> spineau, brendand, roadmr: I'm going to land the vagrant fix and see what of the currently approved set can land
[15:28] <spineau> zyga: sure
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Hiyas
[15:31] <smartboyhw> balloons ^
[15:32] <balloons> smartboyhw, ;-p
[15:32] <balloons> so cadence week 8 is going to be starting up..
[15:32] <smartboyhw> yep
[15:32]  * balloons rattles head
[15:33] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:33] <balloons> as usual, I'm open to discussions on what to include
[15:33] <balloons> so, SergioMeneses, smartboyhw , thoughts?
[15:33] <smartboyhw> KDE?
[15:33] <balloons> If possible there are some new tests I'd like to push into the cadence
[15:34] <balloons> We need the upgrade (from image) test to be finished
[15:35] <zyga> spineau, roadmr, brendand: tarmac started, the order of merges is random, I cannot improve that -- if it fails I'll re-approve the proposals that get borked
[15:35] <zyga> oh, the right branch is first, cool
[15:37] <SergioMeneses> balloons, thoughts about what?
[15:38]  * SergioMeneses is reading The Planet
[15:38] <balloons> SergioMeneses, yes, lots of reviewing and reading
[15:38] <balloons> :-p
[15:38] <balloons> SergioMeneses, thoughts on what to look at for cadence week 8
[15:39] <smartboyhw> balloons upgrade tests are good
[15:39] <SergioMeneses> mmm....
[15:39] <SergioMeneses> daily testing
[15:40] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Laptop testing?0
[15:40] <smartboyhw> We need applications tests....
[15:41] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, yes, we need more testcases and make testing
[15:41] <SergioMeneses> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/258/builds
[15:42] <smartboyhw> hmm what to do?
[15:42]  * smartboyhw might have to finish his Transmission testcase tmr
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I hope so
[15:42]  * SergioMeneses hides
[15:43] <smartboyhw> balloons: autopilot?
[15:43] <smartboyhw> Or flavour images testing?
[15:43] <balloons> smartboyhw, yes new app tests would be great
[15:43] <smartboyhw> Or???????????????????????????????
[15:44] <SergioMeneses> autopilot again?
[15:44] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:44] <balloons> mm.. probably not autopilot, as we're close on some cool things, but not ready yet
[15:44] <SergioMeneses> do we have more features?
[15:44] <SergioMeneses> ok
[15:44] <smartboyhw> balloons what are the cool things!?!?!?
[15:45] <balloons> converting everything to introspection.. but the coolest is using umockdev.. what it allows is to create fake hardware (by using real hw) to test things that need it
[15:45] <smartboyhw> wow
[15:45] <SergioMeneses> :O
[15:45] <balloons> for instance, testing shotwell.. and having a virtual camera to go with it :-)
[15:45] <smartboyhw> XD
[15:46] <balloons> carla has been working on it for a bit..
[15:46] <smartboyhw> I want that now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:46] <smartboyhw> balloons, great letozaf_ (Carla's nick right?*
[15:47] <balloons> I'd also like to continue the bug confirmation idea we did last time
[15:47] <smartboyhw> balloons uh
[15:47] <balloons> I've not yet gone to look and see if we managed to shrink the open ubiquity stuff
[15:47] <balloons> I'd like us to go after open issues we've found during the cycle
[15:48] <smartboyhw> balloons how about VirtualBox? Fixed?
[15:48] <zyga> woot, tarmac lands checkbox fix for CI loop based on vagrant
[15:48] <balloons> smartboyhw, u mean testdrive + vbox?
[15:48] <balloons> if so, yes, yes it is :-)
[15:48]  * xnox ponders if umockdev can fake hard-drives.
[15:49] <smartboyhw> balloons good
[15:49]  * zyga thinks that mocking is great but setting up real hardware is better for actual resutls
[15:49] <SergioMeneses> balloons, can we add ubuntu-friendly to our cadence wee someday?
[15:49] <SergioMeneses> *week
[15:49] <zyga> especially for performance regressions and quirks/odd hardware that you can just plug to an existing system overnight
[15:50] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses of course.b.
[15:50] <balloons> xnox, I was thinking about exotic hardware as well.. disk controllers, tv tuners, etc
[15:51] <SergioMeneses> i think it would interesting and we can spreading UF a lot!
[15:51] <balloons> SergioMeneses, certainly we can have uf be a part.. atm, using the laptop tracker to test hw is better (so we do that instead) for ensuring we get the results
[15:51] <smartboyhw> balloons: For TV tuners contact the Mythbuntu.
[15:52] <smartboyhw> team
[15:52] <balloons> smartboyhw, :-) At one point I was interested.. I don't watch tv anymore
[15:52] <smartboyhw> balloons whoa?!!!!???!??!?!?!
[15:55] <balloons> smartboyhw, lol.. scary eh?  haven't for years.. I gave away the tv i inherited last year after never plugging it in
[15:55] <balloons> xnox, whoa -- there's an xchat-indicator? http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2013/02/x-chat-power-user-upload.html
[15:56] <SergioMeneses> balloons, watch tv on the laptop
[15:56] <balloons> SergioMeneses, yes.. in many ways, that's where we are at.. anyways, back to reality :-)
[15:58] <smartboyhw> Back
[15:58] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, ++
[15:58] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, ?
[16:01] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, you're back! anyway balloons can we publish something official about testing in the UGJ? I see "the planet" and cry
[16:01] <balloons> SergioMeneses, yes, I am working on some communication from me personally, and of course some words about quality and what we're doing
[16:01] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses we might need to.
[16:02] <balloons> in short, nothing changes at the moment for us.. we discussed how we would work in a rolling world, and we know how we operate now..
[16:02] <smartboyhw> balloons: how?
[16:02] <balloons> I don't want to diatribe too much here.. but if they change focus towards faster cadences, we know how to do that..
[16:03] <balloons> we don't want to be overwhelmed with things however
[16:03] <smartboyhw> yep
[16:03] <balloons> I caught a bit of the flavors discussion, and I'll have some words on that
[16:03] <smartboyhw> balloons YAY
[16:03] <SergioMeneses> balloons, perfect!
[16:04] <balloons> I'm with you however -- digesting and responding ;-)
[16:04]  * smartboyhw waits for blog post
[16:15] <njin> balloons, I write the first testcase (upgrade) and downloaded the bzr
[16:16] <balloons> njin, excellent
[16:16] <balloons> we were talking about wanting to use it next week for cadence week 8
[16:16] <smartboyhw> yeah
[16:16] <njin> balloons, now the next step is to insert my file into image and push to the bzr ?
[16:17] <smartboyhw> njin yes
[16:17] <smartboyhw> Make sure you run bzr add
[16:17] <njin> ok, the file number is assigned by the revisioner '
[16:18] <njin> ?
[16:18] <balloons> njin, yes.. since it's new, you can upload without a number
[16:18] <balloons> ohh
[16:18] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide
[16:19] <balloons> that will be helpful ^^
[16:19] <smartboyhw> njin: Normally it would be the testcase no. in the QA Tracker
[16:19] <njin> is a new testcase
[16:19] <balloons> njin, yea check out that page
[16:19] <balloons> it will explain things..
[16:20] <njin> ok, looking
[16:51] <balloons> njin, looking ;-)
[16:51] <njin> thanks
[16:53] <balloons> hmm.. the diff is blank
[16:53] <balloons> did you add the new file to your branch?
[16:53] <balloons> you have to use bzr add FILENAME
[16:53] <njin> ok, redo things
[16:53] <balloons> njin, https://code.launchpad.net/~fabiomarconi/ubuntu-manual-tests/upgrade_from_image
[16:53] <SergioMeneses> maybe njin could use: bzr diff
[16:54] <balloons> yea, I don't see a commit from you in there yet
[16:54] <balloons> overall.. you need to do this
[16:54] <balloons> 1) create new file
[16:54] <balloons> 2) use bzr add FILENAME
[16:54] <balloons> 3) bzr commit
[16:54] <balloons> 4) bzr push
[16:54] <balloons> make sense? you make the file, add it to the branch.. commit the branch, and then finally push it to launchpad
[16:55]  * balloons is excited
[16:55] <SergioMeneses> balloons, about?
[16:55] <balloons> SergioMeneses, multi-tasking certainly, but yes ;0
[16:55] <SergioMeneses> :O :)
[16:55] <smartboyhw> lol
[17:06] <balloons> njin, looks like it worked :-)
[17:06] <balloons> I see the test
[17:07] <njin> ok, thanks
[17:07] <SergioMeneses> congrats njin :)
[17:07] <balloons> So basically what happens now is it will be reviewed, then merged into the trunk and synced to the tracker
[17:08] <balloons> and yes congrats... :-) You are free to make testcases now! Go forth and write!
[17:08] <njin> ok, but for the other part we need to wait for the fix (upgrade inserting the media in the running system)
[17:10] <balloons> njin, ohh right! good point. can we get another bug report on our tracker for that? and link to the launchpad bug for the fix?
[17:10] <njin> balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1152148
[17:10] <balloons> njin perfect.. can you open the bug on our tracker so we can track our need for the testcase for it?
[17:11] <njin> sure
[17:11] <balloons> thanks!
[19:38] <Noskcaj> balloons, someone killed the lubuntu installer theme, and phillw is AFK. can you try and get someone to confirm it, i haven't  had time to make a bug
[19:38] <balloons> Noskcaj, on the daily eh?
[19:39] <balloons> Noskcaj, morning :-)
[19:39] <Noskcaj> balloons, morning, yeah
[19:39] <Noskcaj> or about a week
[19:39] <balloons> I'll be back in a bit.. you can always ping
[19:40] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:41] <balloons> on #lubuntu
[19:41] <balloons> or the mailing list if no one is about
[19:59] <Noskcaj> bug 1152306
[20:03] <xnox> Noskcaj: it's absolutely fine.
[20:04] <xnox> Noskcaj: there is no background, but that is pending on ubiquity upload.
[20:04] <xnox> Noskcaj: to be done now.
[20:04] <balloons> xnox, Noskcaj ahh.. yea, so it's a black background.. Noskcaj you'll notice little things like that throughout the cycles.. anything that has to do with art will get updated at some point during the cycle
[20:05] <balloons> for instance, the fact it still says 12.10 everywhere (or did.. it's getting close to time that should be fixed)
[20:05] <Noskcaj> not the black background, the window theme itself, note the blue-ness
[20:06] <Noskcaj> and the minimise button
[20:06] <xnox> Noskcaj: a screenshot of what you'd expect it to be would be nice. E.g. on a working lubuntu install package ubiquity, launch it and take a comparison screenshot.
[20:06] <xnox> cause I don't know / use lubuntu so no idea what it is meant to look like =) overall it looks fine to me at first glance.
[20:06] <Noskcaj> i'm afraid i don't have one, maybe google images has it
[20:07] <Noskcaj> http://i52.tinypic.com/v7s1e9.jpg
[20:28] <Noskcaj> xnox, screencap added
[20:28] <xnox> Noskcaj: thanks.
[20:30] <balloons> thx :-)