=== resba|Out is now known as resba [00:12] qt creator gives me the warning that Ubuntu.HUD module is missing. Which package do I have to install? How do I install those qt5 modules? Via apt-get? === darkdragon-001[A is now known as darkdragon-001 [00:12] * darkdragon-001 is no longer away - Gone for 23 mins 26 secs [00:18] hello all === paradox|AFK is now known as paradoxgo === darkdragon-001 is now known as darkdragon-001[A [00:42] * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes) === darkdragon-001[A is now known as darkdragon-001 [00:44] * darkdragon-001 is no longer away - Gone for 1 mins 43 secs === darkdragon-001 is now known as darkdragon-001[A [00:53] * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : see you soon === vibhav is now known as Guest48005 === waa_ is now known as wiliam [01:48] http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-pagestack.html that example doesn't work [01:48] maybe i'm missing something [01:53] bcurtiswx: when you say it doesn't work...... [01:53] what exactly do you mean> [01:54] well, after the last 2 days UDS, what's abount community plans for ubuntu-touch? [01:54] heh [01:54] complicated :) [01:55] ali1234, trying to get some page navigation but haven't found a good example to show all part of it's implementation [01:55] bcurtiswx: can you narrow it down? what doesn't it do that you expect it to do? [01:56] the documentation is a bit lacking currently for sure... but that's just the way it is unfortunately [01:56] ali1234, all im looking for is an example or maybe different documentation that shows how to implement page navigation [01:57] well, for now all i can recommend is that you look at the upstream QML docs [01:57] i'm not 100% sure what you mean by "page navigation" [01:58] what is important though, is a thorough understanding of QML [01:58] because ubuntu components is really only a layer on top of that, and most of this stuff comes straight from the source [01:59] ali1234, i'm growing familiarity with object oriented languages, and I've looked at QML docs, was just looking to see if anyone had tackled something similar. thanks :) [01:59] don't get me wrong, i am probably familiar with what you are trying to do... just a matter of symantics [02:00] krabador: are you interested in the Touch interface itself, apps for it, internal mobile enablement stuff? [02:00] mhall119, internal mobile enablement stuff, [02:01] Is there a way to power the phone off from SSH rather than from adb? I know you can do "adb root" but I'd prefer something that I can do while connected to my phone remotely [02:01] Er, s/root/reboot [02:02] mhall119, i trust enough on canonical developers, about graphic stuff, and despite fonts issues, i tried on my samsung i9100 with great pleasure [02:02] habstinat: shutdown -h now seems to work for me [02:02] shutdown -r now if you want to reboot [02:06] mhall119, from the first day of the image release, many user proposed to port ubuntu touch on many devices, and they appeared on wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, but the truth about it is that many of them are simply people who have followed the porting guide of the wiki [02:07] mhall119, and many webzines immediately reported that "ubuntu community are working on devices" or "xda developers are working with canonical to port devices" [02:07] well it wont work on my q88 android tablet [02:12] mhall119, xda are a great community with great people, a collaboration it would be a really good thing, i only want to know if something is planned to let it become true [02:12] krabador: what isn't true about it? [02:13] my understanding is that XDA developers are working on these ports [02:14] i am not affiliated with XDA :P [02:14] reaching out to that community is extremely interesting though [02:17] mhall119, i followed xda forums and wiki.ubuntu.com from the first day, and i can assure you that many "developers" on the ubuntu wiki, are xda forum users who have followed the porting guide, opening an xda thred continually asking help on building newbies problems [02:17] ali1234: but I'm pretty sure they're already actively involved in these ports [02:18] oh for sure... but so am i :) [02:18] krabador: so what can we do to get the more experienced XDA developers involved? [02:18] mhall119, i don't know :) [02:18] will be tricky [02:18] mhall119, it's that my question [02:18] ah, ok [02:19] if you can solve this problem it willbe a huge boon for ubuntu [02:19] because there are some extremely smart people on XDA [02:19] ali1234, yes surely. [02:19] we are talking about people who disassemble windows mobile drivers for fun [02:20] yes, people really valid [02:20] it's kind of a missed opportunity for android [02:20] ali1234: and those people aren't already involved? [02:20] mhall119: beats me, i don't read XDA [02:21] but it's about more than just gettng them involved [02:21] I'll check with daniel tomorrow, he was leading the porting outreach [02:21] because they are involved in android also [02:21] ali1234: oh? what more should there be? [02:21] from ubuntu? i have no idea [02:21] but the problem i see it the thing i raised during plenary [02:22] there is definitely a different culture there [02:22] * mhall119 wasn't there for the plenaries [02:22] can you repeat it for me? [02:22] so i asked jerdog this question "XDA is famous for GPL drama. do you forsee a culture clash?" [02:22] GPL drama? [02:22] if you;re not familiar with what i mean, google for anthrax kernel [02:23] see GPL violations mailing list [02:23] XDA has some really smart people... but they don't like to share [02:23] or, not all of them anyway [02:23] and the users... are kind of happy with that === Guest48005 is now known as vibhav [02:23] not really in line with the FOSS movement [02:24] i don't really have a problem with this - it's just the way it is *shrug* [02:25] so they are distributing binaries against the GPL? [02:25] tl;dr anthrax kernel pulled the same trick as sveasoft did with openwrt, if you are familiar with that [02:25] basically, yes [02:25] they got banned from XDA for it [02:25] but... rules don't make a community [02:26] you can't legislate cooperation [02:26] no, but GPL is a legally binding contract, so you can't exactly just violate it because you want to [02:26] for sure [02:26] but the thing is... XDA is not coming from the same background as typical FOSS developer [02:27] i mean you would not see people getting banned from ubuntu forums for GPL violation... it just wouldn't happen [02:27] well the would if the persisted in using the forums to violate it [02:27] i thinked, but i'm only a simply user, that canonical community and xda developers can meetup, and assign work to developers, and after people can help them [02:27] this isn't a problem with XDA [02:27] but you're right, it's not the kind of problem we have [02:28] because they have clamped down on it [02:28] but... the very fact that they had to clamp down on it, says something about the commnity there [02:28] krabador: assign work to the XDA developers? [02:29] anyway it's not a huge problem... it's just something i find personally interesting [02:29] mhall119, assign work to developers who want to do [02:29] that's not how it typically works with community, we can provide a list of things that need doing and provide documentation and resources to do it, but assigning is unusual [02:31] this is something i've seen happen with raspberry pi too... the raspbian GPL drama... [02:32] i think it stems from inexperienced developers who are following the example set for them by OEMs [02:32] so ubuntu has a chance to be a very positive influence [02:32] mhall119, yes, but for example in xda, all roms developers tipically chose a device [02:33] well, positive if you are a GPL idealist :) [02:34] and i mean inexperience in the sense of everything except hacking, which they are obviously very good at [02:34] yes [02:39] in wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices, there's a list of devices with "the manteiner" to the right of all of them [02:40] yes... [02:40] those are incomplete ports [02:40] if the risk that many of them are inexperieced, in some case totally (as the GS3) [02:40] well... i'm totally inexperienced and my port is in the "mostly works" table above :) [02:40] ubuntu communty can meeting about it [02:41] nexus 4,7, 10 and galaxy nexus are supported... anything else, you get to keep the pieces if it breaks [02:41] ali1234, you're a really interested mantainer [02:41] ironically... no [02:41] you'll be lucky to see an update from me [02:41] some in the list are vanished [02:42] if someone specifically asks for help taking over the port i'm totally available to help them [02:42] ali1234, it's enough === darkdragon-001 is now known as darkdragon-001[A [02:43] * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes) [02:43] !away | darkdragon-001[A [02:43] darkdragon-001[A: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubot5 Guidelines» [02:45] if ubuntu touch was an hacker team project, nobody MUST done nothing for nobody, and all right [02:45] sure [02:45] been there, done that :) [02:46] since ubuntu touch not only is a canonical product, but its more ambitious [02:46] ambitious is understatement :) [02:47] yes [02:50] i only want to said that it's not properly good, and "professional", that list of porting , sometimes announced on many webzines, in the end are manteined by newbies... [02:50] i am a total newb seriously [02:51] i never compiled cyanogen before :/ [02:51] Er, looks like I somehow accidentally got the tablet interface on my Nexus 4 through messing around [02:51] you can;t expect anything more from unofficial ports [02:51] i don't even know if my patches break anything [02:52] It wouldn't boot, so I went in via adb and ran qml-phone-shell and got, among other things, a login screen and now everything is all small and teblet-y [02:52] ali1234, yes, it's all righ, for unofficial ports, but with all the announcements of the last days, i think that people would expect a little bit more [02:53] i feel like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRjR-YS-4bk [02:53] something a little more "organized" [02:54] hahahhahahahhahaha [02:55] ali1234, and now you're a cat? [02:56] whut? no, all the people who expect me to fix all the things on SGS are now cats :) [02:56] i have no idea what i am doing :) [02:58] ali1234, i tried ubuntu touch on i9000 too, and it's really great, and a light year more promising than i9100 [02:59] yep, those i9100 guys had problems [02:59] honestly i was lucky i had i9000 - it was easy [02:59] it just worked [02:59] A LOT, ALL i9100 guys.... [03:00] cm10.1 build are not properly supporting i9100, it's in nightly [03:00] it's a totally different arch... [03:00] i9000 is like the number one most popular CM phone... so it works pretty well [03:01] ali1234, yes, exynos 4210, that samsung wants to keep under lock and key forever [03:01] despite october annuncements of releasing sources and documentations.... [03:02] i noticed a pattern recently... every samsung device has serious bugs... like remote root exploits. no wonder they want to keep it secret... [03:03] ali1234, it was an exynos bug [03:03] yeah the camera thing on exynos [03:03] ali1234,that affected exynos 4210 4410 4412 [03:04] but there's also a remote root exploit in their smart TVs, another one in their printers, and their laptops die if you set too many UEFI variables [03:05] ali1234, but the truth is that samsung used this for not updating galaxy note and galaxy s2 to jelly beam at christmas time [03:06] samsung stuff, leaving smartphones and some tv, are really bad [03:07] everything on pc world, branded samsung for years was the same of "shit", hd cdrw-dvdrw === jono is now known as Guest19637 [03:09] their smart tvs are really good [03:09] ali1234, only today it seems that ssd by samsung are good, it's the firs pc thing in 30 years that peaple can't call shit [03:09] ali1234, yes [03:09] i would buy one [03:09] !language [03:09] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [03:09] root exploit is thee, but really, who is going to exploit that? nobody [03:10] the motion compensation on those things is amazing [03:10] ali1234, nobody, but pearhaps hacker would do something to add features [03:10] it makes everything look like it was filmed in hi def 60 fps progessive [03:10] ali1234, maybe DRM contents read... [03:11] ali1234, yes, really great [03:11] if you are that worried just unplug the thing :) [03:12] ali1234, maybe hackers can root your tv [03:13] maybe, but i don't care [03:13] and let you to see DRM contents for free [03:13] lol [03:13] meh [03:13] i can do that for myself if i want [03:13] no need to root tv [03:14] ali1234, not on a koeran tv [03:14] ali1234, i would try it before... [03:14] a guy i know bought like 4 of those korean 24" monitors [03:14] apparently they are really good [03:15] ali1234, i know , now your friend wants to reach the North Korea for help them in experiments... [03:15] hah... no, they are from south korea :) [03:16] north korea is just mountains [03:16] ali1234, that's what can happen to you... [03:16] easy to defend... hard to do anything else [03:17] hi all [03:17] ali1234, by the way, wait for buy the tv [03:17] ali1234, 2013 will be the year of the smart tv [03:18] smart tv doesn't really interest me... i'm more interested in how ood does the picture look [03:19] and on samsung.... it looks amazing [03:19] ali1234, all brands will release and update hard the products [03:19] and, sharp, for image quality.... [03:19] sure... i'd rather have a pc for that stuff though [03:19] where do we get ubuntu tv [03:20] good question [03:20] RobbyF, for now nowhere [03:20] i think you have to assemble it from ppas basically [03:20] but really soon [03:20] is the concept a set top box? [03:20] it's not officially announced like phone/tablet stuff [03:20] i know they had a demo [03:20] but this is what i've been told [03:21] no biggie, I have a boxeebox but I hate it. [03:21] mythtv web interface ftw [03:22] i run it headless and stream recordings [03:22] ubuntu touch dailys feel like there really improving. [03:22] when idle it mines bitcoins [03:22] any port for mototola razr? [03:22] bah bitcoins lol [03:22] not worth it. [03:22] heh... i started 2 years ago [03:22] how many coins are you upt oo? [03:22] 19? [03:22] made a nice profit on the hardware [03:22] lol. [03:22] got about 150 now :P [03:23] what are they worth now? last i checked it was 10-1 [03:23] $40 [03:23] you've got a good chunk then. [03:23] yeah... i think it will correct soon though [03:23] regardless, i'm holding [03:24] cryptocurrency in general is like the internet... it can't be uninvented [03:24] when does it max out? 1million I think [03:24] 21 million [03:25] you would be rich if it were true currency. [03:25] it's really late in italy, sleep time for me [03:25] later krabador [03:25] i could easily sell what i have today... the market is deep enough [03:25] but i am a believer so there you go :P [03:25] what are you mining with? [03:25] good time people [03:26] krabador: night o/ [03:26] mining with a 5870 [03:26] actually i've stopped now... not really worth it any more [03:26] i started to mine, but I was in a small pool and i dont think i ever got paid out [03:26] sometimes i hit those alt chains [03:26] * krabador really wants a stable ubuntu touch on i9100, to leave android to newbies [03:27] I can't wait for 14.10 stable on our devices. [03:27] lol [03:27] there might not even be a 14.10 [03:27] touche [03:27] I like the idea of rolling releases [03:28] same thing as what MS does. [03:28] seems to work. [03:28] me to, with caveats [03:28] i'm happy to go rolling on the condition that nvidia driver never breaks [03:28] and ati driver, for my bitcoin miner :) [03:28] well releases are still stable. [03:28] updates err. [03:28] break anything else you want... i can fix that [03:28] but nvidia driver... i cannot fix [03:29] fix my boot screen [03:29] I get some error I have no idea what it's about and it just boots past [03:29] and my card is not supportd by nouvea [03:30] I'm using gtx 460 [03:30] i'll stick with nvidia for the time being. [03:31] get this error message on boot ."..failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" [03:32] maybe I should read it all. unreliable CPU thermal ... [03:32] meh, i get that too [03:32] never caused a problem here [03:32] same, just annoys me when i see it [03:32] i only see it like once a month... i don't reboot much [03:33] me neither really. === Kurlon_ is now known as Kurlon [04:06] how can i download the source code [04:06] anyone help [04:06] ? [04:12] you gotta add the ppa tools [04:12] then flash the device [04:12] there is a instructions in ubuntu [04:20] selena2013: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Building_the_Android_pieces in this page the url http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb how can i do next [04:20] this url http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb [04:21] yes you have to add the ppa tools [04:21] the device has to be rooted first [04:23] selena2013: I wanna to down load the souce code first, and the tools and complile needs is OK [04:24] oooo ok [04:24] i dont know how to do that sorry [04:26] selena2013: when i use `repo init -u http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb ` it's downloading, but TERM report a fatal [04:27] i wish i can help i dont know [04:27] and WARNING gnome-key:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyringxxxxxx/pkcs11 === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [04:27] selena2013: Thanks all the same! [04:28] * can anyone help with it! [04:28] somebody will come and help you be patient [04:28] is late here maybe people sleeping [04:29] o!what's your time? [04:30] my time is 12:30 [04:30] 11 30 pm [04:31] oh! that's real late! [04:32] 12:30am [04:33] morning or night ? [04:35] Mourning, my build is dead [04:35] sorry to hear that [04:35] afternoon [04:36] after lunch [04:36] o ok [04:37] trapntan: can you see my question? [04:38] leaveboy: I see that one [04:38] trapntan: is there some idea? [04:39] Skipping libc.so during boot [04:39] Then a couple bad display and bad parameters [04:40] Waiting for surfaceflinger... [04:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Building_the_Android_pieces in this page the url http://phabl [SLB] [04:40] how can i do next [04:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Building_the_Android_pieces in this page the url [04:41] http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb and how could i do next [04:41] This should have the errors from boot [04:41] https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8hzsilwiobcrgu/boot_output [04:43] i have even download the souce code [04:43] i even have not download the souce code [04:45] how should i download the source code firt [04:45] how should i download the source code first? [04:58] JUST GOT WIFI WORKING WITHOUT FANOTIFY! [04:59] 90userinit... add this as the first line.. get ready for it... umount /proc... That's it [04:59] unmount proc outside of the chroot.. And it works.. =) [05:12] Anyone around.. I am ready to share my system folder with the world.. Anyone know a good way to package into a .zip? === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [06:10] Can i change my location on my ubuntu touch, its stuck in london. [07:09] Hi, I'm ssh'd to phablet@localhost, what's the command to copy the contacts csv to my local machine? [07:16] @random it's on this page near the bottom, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes [07:34] hai guys [07:34] anyone there [07:41] hi [07:41] dunno not much going on in here [07:41] wrong time of day/night? [07:45] good morning [07:46] good afternoon [07:47] goog ight [07:48] night :p [07:48] everyone got ubuntu phablet loaded on something then? [07:49] Got it running on my Galaxy Nexus :) [07:49] i got it running on mine... but it was really laggy and choppy [07:49] have you updated it with the daily builds? Seems better to me [07:50] i just installed it today, how do i update after install? [07:50] phablet-flash -l [07:51] what out it will reset all the data back to preview stuff! [07:51] "watch" [07:51] yea, [07:51] so you say you found it running a lot better after doing that? [07:52] it's not perfect but unless I'm mistaken it runs slightly smoother and hasn't crashed on me like it did the 1st day [07:53] ill have to try it out another day then. just install 4.2.2 back on my system [07:53] allegedly it will be good enough to run day to day in a couple of weeks, can't wait... [07:53] yeah might be the best [07:54] thing to do atm unless you can contribute I suppose [07:54] yea looks good, i just need my phone little to much atm, but if it gets better ill use it. [07:54] fair enough [07:54] I guess it is morning in UK now? [07:55] maybe more activity here from here on today [07:55] its like 7 am there atm or 8 [07:55] ok [07:55] but early still [07:56] gotta go, bbl [08:08] does anybody know how what I have to install in order that qt has the module Ubuntu.HUD? === darkdragon-001[A is now known as darkdragon-001 [08:08] * darkdragon-001 is no longer away - Gone for 5 hrs 25 mins 42 secs === corne_away is now known as corne === darkdragon-001 is now known as darkdragon-001[A [08:38] * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes) === msorvig_ is now known as msorvig === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ === codealot_ is now known as codealot === jpetersen_ is now known as jpetersen === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === Maroc-OS_ is now known as Maroc-OS === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:54] hey guys need help [11:54] have a problem when building image [11:54] build/core/product_config.mk:253: *** No matches for product === SoftDodger is now known as asiekierka [12:00] hi [12:00] italian? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:56] Hi guys ) i have builded ubuntu touch 20 mins ago for htc glacier ... but wifi dont works ... how to debug ubuntutouch ??? [12:56] adb logcat ?? or ? [12:57] ubuntu just uses what the android side gives it ... i would assume android doesnt properly load your wifi driver [12:57] android base works fine ... tested .. [12:58] i mean wifi [12:58] and you have the wlan device listed when logged in with adb ? [12:59] (how do you test the android base standalone, there is nothing included to manage teh device ???) [12:59] no [12:59] hi, i got a question concerning hardware for ubuntu touch: is it really Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4/7/10 only or is it possible to install it on an older tablet (like P7500 from Samsung) ? [12:59] rob_____, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices have a look, there are various community ports unerway [13:00] *underway [13:00] ogra_: many thanks, i'll look there. [13:00] qtcreator doesn't support Ubuntu AppMenu, any workaround fo that? === msorvig_ is now known as msorvig [13:08] ok, another question concerning installation. [13:08] for installing touch on my android device i need a running ubuntu box? [13:08] is it possible to use any other linux as well? [13:09] You don't need to have a Linux box just to install it, if you want to dev it however, you'll want Linux. :p [13:10] i don't like to start a distro war right now, but the question concerns the linux distribution. :) [13:11] rob_____, for installing it really doesn't matter, as long as you do the manual steps correctly [13:11] ok, brb === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:27] I need a invitation for ubuntu-phone channel... [13:27] please [13:29] or some ubuntu-touch development channel === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:32] hello, i need help for development apps for ubuntu-touch, some chennel for this ?? [13:32] sorry my english [13:32] XD [13:33] julio: this channel [13:33] pmcgowan, XO [13:34] pmcgowan, ok thanks [13:53] hi [13:53] anybody here? [13:53] i see on the right, but anybody ACTIVE here [13:53] lol [13:53] hi [13:53] hey [13:54] how are you? [13:54] good and you? [13:54] very good [13:54] does touch use mir? [13:54] awesome [13:55] nikitis, not yet [13:55] that's cool [13:55] i just want to find out, is ubuntu touch being developed for galaxy tab 10.1? [13:55] it uses surfaceflinger [13:55] what does it currently use? [13:55] but will soon switch [13:55] ok [13:55] and if so, what is the eta on alpha or beta or something? [13:55] sorry [13:55] i know [13:55] kiLLe512, you are a development?? [13:55] it's annoying [13:55] yes [13:55] i am [13:55]