| wrst | yep what did you start on? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Omnifrog | back when getting a USB dialup modem working was a weekend project | 00:00 |
| Omnifrog | RH 4 ? | 00:01 |
| wrst | oh me | 00:01 |
| Omnifrog | I think it was 4 | 00:01 |
| Omnifrog | it came in the back of a 6 inch thick book on Linux | 00:01 |
| wrst | good old days indeed | 00:02 |
| Omnifrog | the OS was free but the book was pretty costly | 00:02 |
| wrst | my first go was in 2007 or so | 00:02 |
| Omnifrog | things have been pretty good for Linux the last 6 years | 00:03 |
| wrst | I started out with mandriva | 00:03 |
| wrst | broad com wireless on my laptop worked easily | 00:04 |
| Omnifrog | I never followed Mandrake down that path | 00:04 |
| Omnifrog | I did use Mandrake for a time though | 00:04 |
| wrst | Ubuntu introduced jockey I think in 7.10 then I switched | 00:06 |
| Omnifrog | I was using SUSE when they started making deals with Microsoft and at that point I migrated to Ubuntu | 00:08 |
| Omnifrog | 2005-ish? | 00:08 |
| Omnifrog | SUSE was a really good distro | 00:09 |
| Omnifrog | at the time I think it was one of the best ones out there | 00:10 |
| wrst | opensuse I think still is | 00:10 |
| wrst | if I'm not mistaken they aren't associated with Novell now? | 00:11 |
| Omnifrog | I dunno. did they fork it out of the Novellverse? | 00:11 |
| wrst | http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE | 00:12 |
| wrst | on my phone sorry for the mobile link | 00:13 |
| wrst | first paragraph has it | 00:13 |
| wrst | I think opensuse is the best KDE district short of arch and vanilla KDE | 00:13 |
| wrst | *district | 00:14 |
| wrst | hmm | 00:14 |
| wrst | *distro | 00:14 |
| wrst | silly android | 00:14 |
| Omnifrog | I wonder if it handles audio any better than Ubuntu | 00:15 |
| wrst | what type of audio? | 00:15 |
| wrst | just in general? | 00:15 |
| Omnifrog | running IDJC on Ubuntu can be a friggin nightmare | 00:16 |
| Omnifrog | and USB Mic handling is crap | 00:16 |
| wrst | seems like KDE and pulse on kubuntu have issues or I have heard that | 00:17 |
| Omnifrog | oh yeah | 00:18 |
| Omnifrog | they do | 00:18 |
| Omnifrog | and Jack is .... what the hell were they thinking???? | 00:18 |
| wrst | regular Ubuntu seems to work well or has for me | 00:19 |
| wrst | Jack is good I this k I use it with ardour | 00:19 |
| Omnifrog | audio in general is a nightmare what with all the different implementations | 00:20 |
| wrst | I have set up a recording machine with multiple cards and 8 inputs/outputs and really was pretty happy but really researched hardware | 00:23 |
| Omnifrog | true, with enough research anything is possible | 00:24 |
| Omnifrog | Ardour segfaults on startup for me | 00:25 |
| Omnifrog | :\ | 00:25 |
| wrst | but just regular audio never had any real issues | 00:25 |
| wrst | that's not good | 00:25 |
| Omnifrog | oh yeah. just playing audio is fine | 00:25 |
| Omnifrog | I do a radio show so i run up against all kinds of weird audio issues | 00:27 |
| wrst | ahh and do it all on Linux? | 00:27 |
| Omnifrog | like routing sound from skype/G+/other sources to the broadcast console | 00:27 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, all using Linux | 00:28 |
| wrst | guessing that is where jack comes in? | 00:28 |
| Omnifrog | yeap | 00:28 |
| Omnifrog | yep | 00:28 |
| wrst | makes sense isn't pulse supposed to be able to do some of that? | 00:29 |
| Omnifrog | right now I just route various audio sources from different machines to a mixer then to the broadcast box | 00:29 |
| Omnifrog | doing that in hardware is just more stable | 00:30 |
| wrst | makes sense also almost like you have researched this :) | 00:30 |
| Omnifrog | no, pulse has to butt out when jack takes control of the sound device | 00:30 |
| Omnifrog | I would call it banging my head on the desk more than research | 00:31 |
| wrst | thinking pulse could do routing | 00:31 |
| wrst | never used it because I'm just used to using jack | 00:31 |
| Omnifrog | this is why I hate audio in Linux | 00:32 |
| wrst | ha ha | 00:32 |
| wrst | could just buy a mac ;) | 00:32 |
| Omnifrog | broadcasting a shoucast stream isn't that much better on macs | 00:33 |
| Omnifrog | less flexible really | 00:34 |
| Omnifrog | some of my fellow DJs on the station use mac | 00:34 |
| wrst | ahh really | 00:35 |
| wrst | what type of show do you do? | 00:35 |
| Omnifrog | I play mostly mainstream stuff. seems like I play a lot of 60's -90's but there are no ruls so I can do what I want really | 00:37 |
| wrst | cool let us know when you are broadcasting so we can tune in | 00:37 |
| Omnifrog | http://ccgi.kitsbury.force9.co.uk/kol/index.php?whsmodule=schedule | 00:37 |
| Omnifrog | I'll be on for an hour tomorrow covering for someone who has to leave early | 00:38 |
| Omnifrog | I should put open suse on a spare partition and test IDJC on that | 00:40 |
| Omnifrog | I don't know anyone who uses it | 00:40 |
| wrst | i'm betting that for kde sound and what not it would work better | 00:40 |
| Omnifrog | jack isn't kde dependent though | 00:41 |
| wrst | oh no just have heard lots of kubuntu issues with sound | 00:41 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, I'm seriously thinking about dumping kde | 00:41 |
| wrst | i'm also not a huge kubuntu fan either so i'm a little tilted in my opinion | 00:41 |
| Omnifrog | it has more than just sound issues | 00:42 |
| wrst | may still be the best one out there i'm using gnome atm | 00:42 |
| wrst | but its nothing to write home about | 00:42 |
| Omnifrog | I could never deal with Gnome. always been a KDE guy but it's really just about pushed me off it entirely | 00:43 |
| Omnifrog | so many unresolved problems | 00:43 |
| Omnifrog | and it seems to be getting worse | 00:43 |
| wrst | i kinda think its the most complete of the desktops right now | 00:43 |
| Omnifrog | G?nome | 00:44 |
| wrst | I run it on arch some and its not bad but I just prefer gnome/gtk apps | 00:44 |
| wrst | no KDE | 00:44 |
| Omnifrog | oh, yeah it's got a lot to it | 00:44 |
| wrst | i thought gnome 3 had a lot of promise but instead of adding things they keep on taking features away | 00:44 |
| wrst | and breaking things | 00:44 |
| Omnifrog | the "KDE Desktop" crashes on me regularly | 00:45 |
| Omnifrog | I'm really unhappy about that | 00:45 |
| wrst | i have never had any luck with kubuntu | 00:45 |
| wrst | actually might would have been a kde user if had not been for kubuntu | 00:45 |
| wrst | i thought kde stunk but just kubuntu issues | 00:46 |
| Omnifrog | that could be a problem too | 00:46 |
| wrst | if you have the stomach for it arch is great with kde and considering you have been using linux since 98 that shouldn't be a problem :) | 00:47 |
| Omnifrog | I've been wanting to try it for some time but never get around it | 00:48 |
| wrst | there is a certain learning curve to it but its a fun learning experience | 00:49 |
| Omnifrog | I'm sure it's not too hard to work out | 00:54 |
| wrst | the install is the time consuming part | 00:55 |
| wrst | well I've done it a few times its not bad just takes a bit to learn | 00:56 |
| wrst | now installer | 00:56 |
| wrst | *no installer | 00:56 |
| wrst | chroot from a live cd | 00:56 |
| Omnifrog | oh. nice | 00:56 |
| wrst | i generally partition from something else then do the rest from the cd | 00:57 |
| Omnifrog | installers have really gotten dumbed down over the past decade | 00:57 |
| wrst | well you will like this one because there isn't an isntaller then :) | 00:58 |
| Omnifrog | I was REALLY disappointed with the last Ubuntu installer | 00:58 |
| wrst | really? | 00:58 |
| wrst | its easy, but they hide the "advanced" stuff | 00:58 |
| Omnifrog | trying to make it easy for win folk I guess | 00:58 |
| wrst | i think everyone is trying to get it to be under a certain number of clicks | 00:59 |
| Omnifrog | yeah | 00:59 |
| Omnifrog | I like all the options in front of me | 00:59 |
| wrst | then of course there is the fedora installer... wow | 00:59 |
| wrst | it used to be really good then they decided to destroy it with the last release | 01:00 |
| Omnifrog | I haven't used Fedora in ages | 01:00 |
| Omnifrog | what part of TN are you in? I'm out side of Chattanooga | 01:02 |
| wrst | cookeville | 01:03 |
| wrst | you are close to cyberanger probably or at least his current under ground bunker | 01:03 |
| Omnifrog | I used to live in Nashville | 01:05 |
| Omnifrog | and the Murfreesboro | 01:05 |
| Omnifrog | I came from Ca though | 01:06 |
| wrst | ahh you have half of the state covered | 01:06 |
| Juzzy | what part of ca? | 02:05 |
| Juzzy | cali or canada? | 02:05 |
| Omnifrog | East SF Bay Area | 02:06 |
| Juzzy | ah, cool area litterally | 02:08 |
| wrst | very nice | 02:10 |
| Juzzy | this weekend is abig weekend for | 02:10 |
| Juzzy | us | 02:11 |
| Juzzy | we're planting our vineyard | 02:11 |
| Juzzy | 150 grapes, 250 berries | 02:12 |
| Juzzy | I'll propagate the rest of the plants, thats only about 40% of an acre worth | 02:12 |
| wrst | sounds like a lot of work | 02:12 |
| Juzzy | ya | 02:12 |
| Juzzy | I roped in everyone willing | 02:13 |
| Juzzy | gunna have 15-20 men, couple of women and about 10 kids heh | 02:13 |
| Omnifrog | you make wine, Juzzy ? | 02:13 |
| Juzzy | I'll spend most of the day cooking for everyone lol | 02:13 |
| Juzzy | yea | 02:13 |
| Omnifrog | awesome | 02:13 |
| Juzzy | not commercially yet | 02:13 |
| Omnifrog | I want to do that | 02:13 |
| Juzzy | it's about $100k to go pro | 02:14 |
| Omnifrog | I have 100 acres sitting there growing hay | 02:14 |
| Juzzy | so I'm starting out planting a vineyard, selling to other wineries and to the public | 02:14 |
| Omnifrog | that's boring | 02:14 |
| Juzzy | wow dude | 02:14 |
| Juzzy | plant alphala hay | 02:14 |
| Juzzy | and get you about 30 bee hives | 02:14 |
| Juzzy | and make the shit out of some mead | 02:15 |
| Juzzy | ~2.5lbs/gallon | 02:15 |
| Omnifrog | if I had the time it would be so | 02:15 |
| Juzzy | alfalfa is premium honey too | 02:15 |
| Juzzy | you'd probably get 60lbs/hive from it | 02:15 |
| Omnifrog | wife wants to put goats on it and make cheese :\ | 02:17 |
| Juzzy | to eat or sell? | 02:17 |
| Omnifrog | or more specifically... she want's to make me do that | 02:17 |
| Juzzy | heh | 02:17 |
| Omnifrog | to sell | 02:17 |
| Juzzy | you need milk goats for that | 02:18 |
| Juzzy | and you have to milk them | 02:18 |
| Omnifrog | yeah | 02:18 |
| Omnifrog | that's why we don't have goats | 02:18 |
| Omnifrog | cause my wife is nuts | 02:18 |
| Juzzy | what do you do for a living? | 02:19 |
| Omnifrog | .... I'm a lumberjack | 02:19 |
| Juzzy | seriously? | 02:19 |
| Omnifrog | and a farmer | 02:19 |
| Omnifrog | yeas | 02:19 |
| Juzzy | and somehow you ended up on an irc network for linux? | 02:20 |
| Omnifrog | it's a long story | 02:20 |
| Juzzy | :p | 02:20 |
| Juzzy | you're like peter from office space? | 02:20 |
| Omnifrog | never seen it | 02:21 |
| Juzzy | l33t hax0r back in cali, moved to tn to farm | 02:21 |
| Juzzy | heh | 02:21 |
| Omnifrog | my wife dragged me here after we got married | 02:22 |
| Omnifrog | it's lovely country | 02:22 |
| Juzzy | ya, it is | 02:24 |
| Juzzy | I'm almost a lumberjack heh | 02:24 |
| Juzzy | I'm cutting down cedar posts for all my trellising | 02:24 |
| Juzzy | our area has a weed called "red cedar trees" | 02:24 |
| Juzzy | they grow every damn where | 02:25 |
| Omnifrog | I have to put in about 4800 feet of barbed wire fence in the next month | 02:25 |
| Omnifrog | that should be fun | 02:25 |
| Juzzy | hah yea | 02:26 |
| Juzzy | saturday we're installing 15,000 ft of high tensile 12.5 ga wire ;/ | 02:26 |
| Omnifrog | what fer? | 02:26 |
| Juzzy | i feel your pain there | 02:26 |
| Juzzy | trellising | 02:27 |
| Omnifrog | ooh, grapes | 02:27 |
| Omnifrog | yeah | 02:27 |
| Juzzy | 200' long rows, 3-4 strands pre row, 10ft apart | 02:27 |
| Juzzy | = 22 rows or so | 02:27 |
| Omnifrog | how are you driving the posts into the ground? | 02:28 |
| Juzzy | tractor + 12" auger | 02:28 |
| Omnifrog | +1 | 02:28 |
| Omnifrog | I cant do that for the fence | 02:28 |
| Juzzy | 12" is a little too big, but oh well | 02:28 |
| Juzzy | why not? | 02:28 |
| Juzzy | t-posts? | 02:28 |
| Omnifrog | it's all in very hilly woods | 02:28 |
| Juzzy | ya welcome to tennessee, limestone land | 02:29 |
| Omnifrog | it alll gotta be done on foot bu hand | 02:29 |
| Omnifrog | by* | 02:29 |
| Omnifrog | so ... blerg | 02:30 |
| Juzzy | what most rednecks do | 02:30 |
| Juzzy | it top the trees and attach the wire to existing trees :p | 02:30 |
| Omnifrog | that would be nice | 02:31 |
| Omnifrog | can't really do that though | 02:31 |
| Omnifrog | I have a lot of trees down back there too | 02:32 |
| Omnifrog | so basically, Fun month | 02:33 |
| Omnifrog | yay | 02:33 |
| Juzzy | ya sounds like it :( | 02:33 |
| Juzzy | u raise chickens? | 02:34 |
| Juzzy | If I ever become a farm, I'll do like the polyface farms from omnivour's delima (book) does | 02:35 |
| Omnifrog | no, but my family does | 02:35 |
| Juzzy | he claims he's a "grass farmer" | 02:35 |
| Juzzy | but he raises an obscene amount of chickens, cows, pigs, etc | 02:35 |
| Juzzy | but he has like 11 pastures and he rotates everyhitng around daily | 02:36 |
| Juzzy | all of his chicken broiler boxes have wheels and he moved them all over 1 spot and they pick it clean | 02:36 |
| Juzzy | and the chickens eat the grubs and larvie from the 3 day old cow manure in the pasture | 02:36 |
| Juzzy | etc | 02:36 |
| Juzzy | but he produces like 30,000 dozen eggs | 02:37 |
| Juzzy | and sells thousands of broiler chickens | 02:37 |
| Juzzy | it's all organic, grass fed, blah blah | 02:37 |
| Juzzy | so he gets a premium for it all, pretty interesting | 02:38 |
| Omnifrog | sorry, brb. putting kids to bed | 02:39 |
| Juzzy | dang, they stay up late | 02:55 |
| Juzzy | hehe all 3 of mine still go to bed at 7:30 :D | 03:32 |
| Omnifrog | oh, you have little ones | 03:34 |
| Omnifrog | I has to have a sleep too | 03:52 |
| Omnifrog | night folks | 03:52 |
| === Omnifrog is now known as Omnifrog|Pond | ||
| cyberanger | night Omnifrog|Pond | 07:51 |
| === Omnifrog|Pond is now known as Omnifrog | ||
| * wrst is glad to see Omnifrog sticking around | 12:38 | |
| cyberanger | how's it going Omnifrog | 13:52 |
| wrst | cyberanger: you doing ok? | 13:55 |
| cyberanger | yeah | 14:10 |
| wrst | good I've been reading all the rolling release debate... interesting stuff | 14:16 |
| Omnifrog | hiya wrst n cyberanger | 15:59 |
| Omnifrog | Yes, I'm adept at the art of lurking | 16:00 |
| wrst | Omnifrog: we all are ! | 16:01 |
| wrst | so welcome lurker :) | 16:01 |
| Omnifrog | :D | 16:02 |
| Omnifrog | I need lunch food | 16:02 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: what area of chatt? | 16:02 |
| Omnifrog | Ooltewah area | 16:04 |
| Omnifrog | I'm in the woods | 16:04 |
| wrst | that's a good place to be :) | 16:04 |
| Omnifrog | yeah. it's pretty country | 16:05 |
| Omnifrog | I'm ready for the trees to be green though | 16:05 |
| wrst | i have noticed the grass getting green here before it turned white | 16:06 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: I was in McDonald when I first came to TN | 16:28 |
| cyberanger | so I fully understand the appeal | 16:29 |
| cyberanger | I can tell your not too far in the woods, EPB Fiber ;-) | 16:29 |
| cyberanger | used to take US-11 thru Ooltewah to Hamiliton Place (still do actually, when I go, more fun vs the interstate) | 16:30 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, EPB has 100% coverage out here cause of smart grid buzzword | 16:34 |
| Omnifrog | the fiber is teh awesome | 16:35 |
| Omnifrog | only problem is internet drops out for 15-30 sec every so often | 16:36 |
| Omnifrog | which is really irritating when I'm on the air | 16:36 |
| cyberanger | radio? | 16:40 |
| Omnifrog | yeah. speaking of which... crap | 16:40 |
| Omnifrog | looks like I have to on it in 18 minutes | 16:41 |
| Omnifrog | *be on it | 16:43 |
| cyberanger | hrm... | 16:50 |
| wrst | cyberanger: http://ccgi.kitsbury.force9.co.uk/kol/index.php?whsmodule=schedule | 16:52 |
| Omnifrog | I love it when DJs decide they have to leave an hour early and tell me about it 40 minutes later :\ | 16:52 |
| wrst | Omnifrog: that gives you 20 minutes what else do you want? ;) | 16:55 |
| Omnifrog | hehe | 16:55 |
| Omnifrog | who needs prep time >.> | 16:56 |
| === Omnifrog is now known as DJOmnifrog | ||
| cyberanger | DJOmnifrog: nice | 17:10 |
| DJOmnifrog | :D | 17:13 |
| wrst | http://www.iloveubuntu.net/mark-shuttleworth-not-convinced-rolling-releases-can-we-make-even-more-releases-year | 17:19 |
| DJOmnifrog | fun songs | 17:38 |
| wrst | hello average_1uy | 17:41 |
| wrst | DJOmnifrog: I will tune in sometime when I'm not on the phone at work! | 17:42 |
| DJOmnifrog | dang work | 17:42 |
| DJOmnifrog | it's always getting in the way | 17:42 |
| wrst | i know | 17:42 |
| wrst | but someone has to do it i suppose | 17:43 |
| DJOmnifrog | we should find someone and beat them for not doing it! | 17:44 |
| wrst | DJOmnifrog: there you go ;) | 17:54 |
| DJOmnifrog | it's my song! | 17:57 |
| * cyberanger always finds it funny when a DJ says that | 18:22 | |
| wrst | cyberanger: how are things going for you? | 18:29 |
| cyberanger | not much has changed since this morning, doing ok | 18:31 |
| wrst | oh yeah that was this morning... sorry cyberanger | 18:31 |
| * wrst is slightly confused | 18:31 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: it's all good, and I meant more like, it's been a slow day since I clocked out this morning | 18:33 |
| cyberanger | not uh, yeah... | 18:33 |
| wrst | well slow is good, its how my brain works all the time :) | 18:36 |
| cyberanger | hey, if that keeps the red ink usage low, sounds fine to me! ;-) | 18:37 |
| wrst | ha ha | 18:38 |
| wrst | ahh | 18:38 |
| * wrst see cyberanger has a tweet today | 18:38 | |
| cyberanger | yeah, figured it was time to be a twit & send a tweet | 18:42 |
| wrst | I send 5 or so a year I think :) | 18:43 |
| DJOmnifrog | I don't remember if I'v tweeted in the last year or not | 18:50 |
| wrst | ha ha DJOmnifrog what is wrong with you? :) | 19:00 |
| === DJOmnifrog is now known as Omnifrog | ||
| Omnifrog | my blood alcohol level is too low | 19:04 |
| wrst | ha | 19:08 |
| Omnifrog | well nuts | 21:08 |
| wrst | what's up Omnifrog? | 21:08 |
| Omnifrog | it's been so long since I tried to boot into one of the other installs on the desktop I forgot the password | 21:10 |
| bill_gill | will deleting the /dev/sdd1 file correct this problem? | 21:12 |
| bill_gill | Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdd1: Command-line `mount "/mnt/sdd1"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1, | 21:13 |
| bill_gill | missing codepage or helper program, or other error | 21:13 |
| bill_gill | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try | 21:13 |
| bill_gill | dmesg | tail or so | 21:13 |
| wrst | bill_gill: what are you trying to mount? | 21:13 |
| bill_gill | sdd1, i can mount it via gparted and sudo but when i boot it prompts to skip or manual repair it | 21:14 |
| bill_gill | it's like a ghost | 21:15 |
| wrst | well the easiest thing woudl be if you don't want it mounting on boot would be to comment it out in fstab | 21:16 |
| wrst | if you are sure you don't need it | 21:16 |
| bill_gill | sdd1 exists | 21:17 |
| bill_gill | I need it but i need to get past this error msg | 21:17 |
| wrst | can you mount it with your file manager? | 21:17 |
| wrst | this has some info on not mounting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=839579 | 21:20 |
| cyberanger | bill_gill: it might exist later in the boot process or be an fstab error | 21:20 |
| bill_gill | can't mount at all now | 21:20 |
| bill_gill | let me check fstab | 21:21 |
| wrst | thanks cyberanger, about to ask for help :) | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | another thought, in fstab, if it's metioning it by block name (sdd1) try switching to UUID | 21:21 |
| bill_gill | fstab is a mess | 21:26 |
| cyberanger | never seen a nice and neat one, but many functional ones, anything I can do to get it to function better, lemme know | 21:27 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i am rather proud of my fstab: http://pastebin.com/G6QHT8aM | 21:30 |
| bill_gill | so i need to reboot after edit? | 21:32 |
| wrst | bill_gill: if you are just wanting to check out a sudo mount /path/to/mount you don't have to reboot... | 21:33 |
| wrst | oh well i guess he did :) | 21:33 |
| Omnifrog | my filesystem is confusing me :\ | 21:34 |
| Omnifrog | next time I build I'n NOT going to procrastinate ! | 21:38 |
| Omnifrog | I clean things up instead of just linking/mounting things where I can get at them | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Now, what's your crontab look like? | 21:39 |
| wrst | ha Unit193 | 21:43 |
| * wrst wonders what happeend to bill_gill | 21:43 | |
| Unit193 | What? I rather like mine... | 21:43 |
| bill_gill | no luck so far | 21:49 |
| bill_gill | same problem ... error when booting (error mounting /mnt/2TB) select S or M. | 21:49 |
| cyberanger | looked at dmesg to see if any related output occured | 21:51 |
| wrst | bill_gill: if that is an ext4 drive I have had that same error when something powered off wrong or something along those lines | 21:54 |
| bill_gill | it is ext4 | 21:55 |
| bill_gill | it could be a permission problem | 21:56 |
| wrst | I wouldn't think so with that error | 21:56 |
| bill_gill | ie /mnt or /etc | 21:56 |
| cyberanger | well, that error can't rule much out either | 21:57 |
| wrst | cyberanger: knows more on this than me | 21:57 |
| bill_gill | what should the permissions be in /mnt? | 21:57 |
| wrst | true cyberanger, i used e2fsck to fix my issue like that | 21:57 |
| cyberanger | only on a good day wrst, and today has been very good | 21:57 |
| wrst | :) | 21:58 |
| wrst | oh and bill_gill are you using LVM? | 21:58 |
| cyberanger | bill_gill: not a bad idea, can you run e2fsck on /dev/sdd1 | 21:58 |
| cyberanger | and are you using that in fstab or it's UUID | 21:58 |
| bill_gill | it was /dev/sdd1. i changed it to UUID .... same problem | 21:59 |
| bill_gill | run it on sdd1? | 22:00 |
| cyberanger | uh, better use this instead | 22:00 |
| cyberanger | sudo e2fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/$UUID | 22:01 |
| cyberanger | replace $UUID with it's UUID | 22:01 |
| bill_gill | can the drive be found post boot if not in fstab? | 22:07 |
| wrst | yes | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | yeah, fstab is just mounting instructions | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | the drive itself is still there | 22:07 |
| wrst | sudo fdisk -l | 22:07 |
| bill_gill | ok, i removed them from fstab on the last boot | 22:07 |
| wrst | that will list them all for you | 22:07 |
| bill_gill | ok, sdd1 is there | 22:08 |
| bill_gill | can i use diskid with e2fsck? | 22:09 |
| cyberanger | yes | 22:09 |
| cyberanger | /dev/disk/by-label/$LABEL | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | UUID | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | so on | 22:10 |
| bill_gill | got the UUID from gparted | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | sudo e2fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/$UUID | 22:13 |
| bill_gill | ok, it ran | 22:13 |
| bill_gill | 1TB: clean, 11663/61054976 files, 188290890/244190208 block | 22:13 |
| bill_gill | gparted has 'mount' greyed out. | 22:15 |
| bill_gill | ok, got most of in cleaned thanks for help | 22:34 |
| bill_gill | one more item | 22:34 |
| bill_gill | the drives are mounting to /mnt.... where should the be to show in file browser | 22:35 |
| Omnifrog | /media | 22:35 |
| bill_gill | should that be automatic at startup? | 22:36 |
| bill_gill | or is that go in fstab | 22:37 |
| Omnifrog | if the're mounted in fstab I would think they should be available from a file browser | 22:40 |
| Omnifrog | that's how it's always worked | 22:41 |
| bill_gill | i'm back after boot. errors gone from startup so fstab is fixed. devices are not showing in file explorer. | 22:52 |
| bill_gill | so auto mount to /media is not happening | 22:52 |
| bill_gill | my usb device is showing so its just the drives | 22:52 |
| Omnifrog | can you navigate to /mnt and open them there? | 22:54 |
| bill_gill | yes | 22:54 |
| Omnifrog | oh, what desktop environment are you in ? | 22:55 |
| bill_gill | 12.10 | 22:55 |
| Omnifrog | Dolphin shows mounted drives automatically in KDE | 22:56 |
| Omnifrog | but yeah, that would be a file manager issue | 22:58 |
| wrst | Unity (nautilus) will not show mounted drives in /mnt but will in /media | 22:59 |
| bill_gill | right, what puts them in /media? | 22:59 |
| bill_gill | so i messed up something when partitioning with gparted. that's when this broke. | 23:00 |
| bill_gill | should i fstab them into media? | 23:00 |
| wrst | just change your mount point | 23:00 |
| wrst | if you are using fstabe yes just change /mnt/mountpoint to /media/mountpoint | 23:01 |
| wrst | i don't know of any drawacks to mounting to /media but someone else may | 23:01 |
| Omnifrog | eh, it's just a different folder | 23:02 |
| Omnifrog | I don't even know why /media was added | 23:02 |
| wrst | me either Omnifrog | 23:02 |
| wrst | and I sure don't know why nautilus looks there instead of /mnt | 23:02 |
| Omnifrog | one day it just showed up in an update | 23:02 |
| wrst | and that is gnome-centric on arch i have to have them mount to /media instead of /mnt but if using kde i have to move them all over to /mnt from /media :) | 23:03 |
| Omnifrog | Dolphin apparently looks in both places | 23:03 |
| wrst | hmm yes it does Omnifrog | 23:03 |
| * wrst just looked at his kde setup and sees that | 23:03 | |
| wrst | Omnifrog: that is by design it appears: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711376 | 23:05 |
| wrst | judging by comment 1 | 23:05 |
| bill_gill | ok, for the record... it's /media/(username)/ | 23:08 |
| Omnifrog | that's what happens when they go add new wizzbang features to a stable user interface >.> | 23:09 |
| * Omnifrog wave cane in the air. shouts at cloud | 23:09 | |
| wrst | ha ha Omnifrog | 23:10 |
| * wrst heads out for the night | 23:10 | |
| bill_gill | cloud drops rain, snow, sleet... strikes man down with lightning | 23:10 |
| bill_gill | so.. now next issue | 23:10 |
| bill_gill | they are loading wit root priv making me enter pw each time | 23:11 |
| bill_gill | oh, nevermind... just the folders that where there prior to this debakkle | 23:12 |
| bill_gill | ty Omnifrog, wrst, others! | 23:12 |
| bill_gill | great to be in W. TN today | 23:12 |
| Omnifrog | guh. kids want me to feed them. AGAIN | 23:15 |
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