[00:00] <Bray90820> when i ran sudo update-grub i don't think so
[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> mount it and check
[00:00] <Bray90820> ubuntu is /dev/sda1 and android is /dev/sda3
[00:00] <Bray90820> check what
[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean try again
[00:00] <Bray90820> ok
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> and this is the x86 android?
[00:01] <Bray90820> so i should do it while mounted
[00:01] <Bray90820> will try
[00:01] <Bray90820> can i do it from a live disk
[00:01] <Bray90820> well waite
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I think so.
[00:01] <bobolopolis> VanessaE: there are a few different versions of the fglrx driver available if you enable the precise-proposed repository.  might be worth trying a different version and see if the redering behavior is different
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh, lol. I forgot you were in a live disc
[00:01] <Bray90820> it won't work right now anyways because i still have the android grub
[00:02] <VanessaE> oh that's right, I forgot to fiddle with the various repositories.  lemme check that first.
[00:02] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i need to change from android grub to ubuntu grub
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: exactly. Boot-repair shoulda done it, did you check out that ppa?
[00:03] <Bray90820> i will right now
[00:03] <one> Ubuntu: Where is the portslist located?
[00:03] <bekks> one: Whats a "portslist"?
[00:03] <one> bekks: the local file that defines ports
[00:04] <one> GoT_r00t: you got my root
[00:04] <bekks> one: /etc/services - which is pretty useless, since it isnt evaluated when an applications tries to open a port.
[00:04] <litropy> I'm bored with my box. I want to do something fun. Any ideas?
[00:04] <haryv> To bad ubuntu does not have  a way to select which apps not to installed when the os is instaled.
[00:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[00:05] <VanessaE> haryv: the alternate installer gives you a bit more control over that as I recall
[00:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[00:05] <haryv> okay did not know there was a alternative
[00:05] <VanessaE> at least, you can select whole categories anyway, which will help pare down the install size somewhat
[00:06] <one> After ufw creates iptables rules are they saved and reloaded by iptables or ufw on reboot?
[00:06] <bekks> haryv: Using 12.04, you could use the minimal iso.
[00:06] <haryv> ubuntu is a butifull os. Really supprised there is even twitter archive discussions on the install process showing up on screen.
[00:06] <Bray90820> the & represents a new command right?
[00:06] <haryv> I started using linux when it was just two or three distros in 1997
[00:06] <bekks> Bray90820: No. & puts a command into the background
[00:07] <VanessaE> ok, repos enabled and updates installed.  let's see what THIS breaks ;)
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: thank you, I forgot the name
[00:07] <Bray90820> so this command should be rub all as one command
[00:07] <Bray90820> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup
[00:07] <Bray90820> ok
[00:07] <Bray90820> i get you
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> and the other after that is done
[00:07] <Bray90820> will do that now
[00:07] <bekks> Bray90820: && is used for "execute cmd1 and if successful, execute cmd2"
[00:08] <Bray90820> ahh
[00:08] <VanessaE> well, that had no effect on the subpixel color fringes..
[00:08] <VanessaE> (but at least I'm up-to-date again)
[00:09] <Bray90820> parentheses should be there right
[00:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: as I pasted it
[00:09] <Bray90820> ok
[00:10] <Bray90820> sorry to ask so many questions
[00:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: no prob, its a support channel after all
[00:10] <Bray90820> yea
[00:10] <VanessaE> I think my issue is that "lcd filtering" on top of the subpixel antialiasing simply is not working
[00:10] <one> Ubuntu: suppose someone has gained root access will changing the root password then lock them out or will thier privledges remain until they are disconnected even after updating password?
[00:11] <bekks> one: There is no root password.
[00:11] <anony> j
[00:11] <bekks> !root | one
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: interesting question, keep them from getting root access in the first place and it wont happen
[00:11] <one> bekks: I modified my system to not use sudo but root
[00:12] <bekks> one: Which is a very bad idea.
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: why.
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: I would not say bad so much as advanced.
[00:12] <one> because if there is an exploitable program running as the sudo user its easier to gain sudo
[00:13] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: After knowing about the existance of sudo -i, setting a root password is an even more bad idea.
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo is better than root. sudo goes away.
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: in some situations you must. backtrack is run solely as root, for instance, because of the nature of its functions
[00:14] <one> sudo is just a security risk
[00:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: and root isnt? isnt that the very basis of your question, the risk posed by root access?
[00:14] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: thats what sudo is designed for. backtrack is a pretty neat example for a bad design.
[00:14] <bastidrazor> one: you are a funny man
[00:14] <elisa87> what should I install to overcome this error?> regex.hpp: No such file or directory
[00:14] <anony> s
[00:15] <one> sudo just gives a user root access which may be running exploitable programs
[00:15] <one> sudo just gives all memory exploits root
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> and root doesn't?
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: are you high?
[00:15] <one> if root isnt running them then no
[00:15] <anony> root is like admin in windows
[00:16] <one> look at top
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: I can do anything root can with sudo
[00:16] <trism> elisa87: libboost1.49-dev or possibly an earlier version if you aren't on 12.10
[00:16] <bastidrazor> i feel the troll
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: you gotta be high or ignorant.
[00:16] <elisa87> trism I am using 12.04 which version should I install? using sudo apt-get or another method?
[00:16] <one> anything in top can have an exploit so giving sudo to the user running most of the processes just makes it more vulnerable
[00:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: and again full root access is the very same!
[00:17] <elisa87> trism: E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.49-dev'
[00:17] <trism> elisa87: apt-cache search -n boost dev; and see what versions you have
[00:17] <one> ntzrmtthihu777: but im not running everything as root
[00:17] <Random832> are there any SIMPLE (not gimp) paint programs I can use to crop a screenshot?
[00:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Random832: yes, imagemagick
[00:18] <Random832> simple and interactive
[00:18] <dakotawulfy>  Random832 pinta
[00:18] <Random832> or tell me how to use imagemagick that will let me do it interactively
[00:18] <VanessaE> fixed my problem finally.  Can someone please add this link to an appropriate wiki or whatever?
[00:18] <kalenjohnson> Random832, there are some web apps that are real simple
[00:18] <VanessaE> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110026/how-do-i-finetune-subpixel-font-anti-aliasing
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> as in with point and click?
[00:18] <Random832> gpaint and rgbpaint both don't have crop tools
[00:18] <VanessaE> THIS was my problem.
[00:18] <Random832> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> then nope
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> Random832: what part are you trying to crop out of a screenshot?
[00:20] <MonkeyAssface123> Hello.
[00:20] <escott> elisa87, libboost-regex1.49.0
[00:21] <escott> elisa87, so just apt-get install libboost-regex
[00:21] <VanessaE> anyway, one last question:
[00:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> VanessaE: yes?
[00:22] <dakotawulfy>  Random832 try pinta
[00:22] <dakotawulfy>   Random832 it is easy
[00:22] <VanessaE> When I re-installed today, I noticed there were four fglrx options now.  one experimental, one experimental and marked as beta, one normal (this is what I am using now), and one for post-release updates.
[00:23] <VanessaE> which one should I really be using?
[00:23] <dr_willis> whatever one  works for you
[00:24] <dr_willis> normal -> post ->  experimental -> exp Beta.
[00:24] <dr_willis> I think is the order of 'age/version'
[00:24] <VanessaE> well what I mean is, is there a point to trying the others?  What should I expect from it?  breakage?  car wrecks?  dogs and cats living together?
[00:25] <dr_willis> better preformance/support for newer hardware, vs chance of breaking
[00:26] <faruk> so when is 13.04 Beta 1 coming out?
[00:26] <gynna> http://www.reddit.com/r/AdultDating18/comments/19t7e6/sexi_and_thick_snow_bunny_atlantaga_airport/
[00:26] <dr_willis> !schedule
[00:26] <haryv> gynna, just tell us what it is
[00:27] <dr_willis> better that he dosent.. ;) sounds OT to me.
[00:28] <faruk> thanks ubottu!
[00:28] <grus> How can I test to see if my onboard graphics can use bloom lighting effect?
[00:29] <Madkiss> Cheers.
[00:30] <Madkiss> So do we have 13.04?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Madkiss:  Huh?
[00:30] <dr_willis> 13.04 exists.. in testing stages..
[00:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> not till 13 -04
[00:30] <VanessaE> hm, looks like all of the improvements are geared toward the 7000-series.  I have an HD6870.
[00:30] <dr_willis> people never noticce the version # is the date of release
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, well I
[00:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, well I'm relatively new to ubuntu, have only seen one new release, quantal
[00:31] <dakotawulfy> dr_willis cool never realized that
[00:31] <elisa87> I installed boost but I am receiving this error: /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lboost_regex
[00:32] <Madkiss> I am just asking because my ubuntu offered me to "Update to the new Release 13.04" like 15 minutes ago.
[00:33] <trism> elisa87: you'll probably need the dev version of the boost library escott mentioned too, in either the 1.46 or 1.48 version (whatever you picked)
[00:34] <trism> elisa87: libboost-regex-*
[00:34] <kn800> Hello all, got an ATi card and trying to deal with the terrible drivers - How does one get the Dual desktops to work?
[00:34] <elisa87> trism what should I do right now?
[00:34] <haryv> dont see x-term in ubunto
[00:34] <haryv> on the desktop
[00:35] <LaserShark> kn800, i had the same problem
[00:35] <LaserShark> whats your card
[00:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want to use xterm?
[00:35] <kn800> LaserShark: did you solve it? It's a 7950
[00:36] <kn800> I regret this card immensely, wish I'd stuck with Nvidia now.
[00:36] <LaserShark> ok, mine's a good deal older
[00:36] <LaserShark> but
[00:36] <trism> elisa87: install it? apt-cache search -n boost regex dev; find the version you need
[00:36] <kn800> LaserShark: any information is helpful hahaha
[00:36] <LaserShark> the exact way i fixed it was i got totally fed up and decided to throw out a monitor because i couldn't deal with this shit
[00:36] <LaserShark> the next morning i woke up booted up the desktop
[00:37] <LaserShark> and voila
[00:37] <LaserShark> i still have no idea how i fixed it
[00:37] <kn800> LaserShark: I hate you hahaha
[00:37] <elisa87> trism jalal@dfyhs5l1:~/gem5-gpu/gpgpu-sim-complete/v3.x$  apt-cache search -n boost regex dev
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex1.46-dev - regular expression library for C++
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex-dev - regular expression library for C++ (default version)
[00:37] <elisa87> libboost-regex1.48-dev - regular expression library for C++
[00:37] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <LaserShark> kn800, haha
[00:37] <LaserShark> all i remember is i installed and uninstalled the propietary drivers a bunch of times
[00:38] <LaserShark> it's a 5670
[00:38] <trism> elisa87: I don't know which version of boost you decided on earlier
[00:39] <lotus-blade> Just upgraded and now have no inet. Any ideas?
[00:40] <fckinCommand> Hi/Salut
[00:40] <Negron> gola
[00:40] <Negron> hola
[00:40] <Negron> español
[00:41] <h00k> !es | Negron
[00:42] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 well i have ubuntu grub back and can boot ubuntu fine now but i cant get android to show
[00:42] <Bray90820> i tried sudo update-grub while it was mounted
[00:43] <Bray90820> i should note tho i can only mount it with disk utility
[00:43] <elisa87> trism that error is fixed now I have this one: /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot find -lboost_filesystem
[00:44] <Negron> hola
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <trism> elisa87: they will all be the same sort of fix, libboost-something-version-dev
[00:44] <Negron> hello
[00:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: well you could always manually edit /etc/grub.d/grub.cfg and add a menu for android
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <escott> elisa87, you may just want to apt-get install libboost-*-dev
[00:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | Negron
[00:44] <trism> elisa87: there is also a libboost-version-all-dev if you just want to grab everything and not search
[00:44] <Negron> hola
[00:44] <Bray90820> when i tried sudo mount /dev/sda3 it says can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:44] <Negron> español
[00:44] <dakotawulfy>  ntzrmtthihu777 would boot repair work for him???
[00:44] <Negron> alguiev
[00:44] <escott> !es | Negron
[00:45] <Negron> hola
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> dakotawulfy: just talked about that.
[00:45] <Negron> hablan español
[00:45] <dakotawulfy> sorry
[00:45] <dakotawulfy> did not see that
[00:45] <escott> Negron, #ubuntu-es
[00:45] <fckinCommand> Does Anybody can tell me why http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591924/ 'not working ?
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what version of android
[00:45] <Negron> hola
[00:45] <Negron> español
[00:45] <elisa87> E: Unable to locate package libboost-version-all-dev trism
[00:45] <Negron> hablan español
[00:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: aqui hablemos ingles
[00:45] <trism> elisa87: replacing version with which ever you selected earlier
[00:45] <Negron> :( donde puedo hablar cpn gente
[00:45] <Negron> en español
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: en #ubuntu-es hablamos espanol
[00:46] <Bray90820> 4.0.4
[00:46] <Negron> donde puedo hablar cn gente en español
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: en #ubuntu-es hablamos espanol
[00:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: escribir /join #ubuntu-es y pressame entro
[00:46] <Negron> ok
[00:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's 4.0.4
[00:48] <haryv> did my comment get passed up?
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what comment
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: gotcha, one sec
[00:48] <Bray90820> ok
[00:48] <haryv> xterm is not on the desktop
[00:49] <haryv> some kind of command line window
[00:49] <haryv> new ubuntu install not seeing it
[00:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want command line?
[00:49] <haryv> yes
[00:49] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 the actuall name for the iso is android x86 4.0 RC2
[00:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: press ctrl+alt+t
[00:49] <Casonade> Hello, I am a new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS User.  I would like to get some help on executing the rc.local file on startup.
[00:50] <haryv> thanks!
[00:50] <haryv> xterm should be part of desktop :)
[00:50] <Casonade> Can anyone help me?
[00:50] <elisa87> how can I search for a file in entire system?  ./tau.conf
[00:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you want a shortcut on desktop
[00:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Casonade
[00:51] <Casonade> No, it is more specific.
[00:51] <Casonade> I can explain it to you, if you want.
[00:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Casonade: give the whole question at once.
[00:51] <haryv> nt, yes. If I recall, last time doing a rght click on desktop gave menu for shortcuts. Do not see it in this install
[00:51] <Casonade> Okay.
[00:51] <haryv> ntzrmtthihu777,  yes
[00:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop
[00:52] <escott> Casonade, rc.local is executed on boot
[00:52] <escott> elisa87, either locate or find
[00:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I gotcha: http://android-x86.sceners.org/en/?p=270
[00:54] <Casonade> I ran Powertop and followed the suggestion to enhance battery life on my laptop using "sudo powertop-1.13" menu, but loosing settings on reboot.  I tried to add the suggestions' script lines on /etc/rc.local and executed with "sudo chmod 755 /etc/rc.local" but it doesn't do anything on reboot.
[00:54] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i already saw that but that's for RC1
[00:54] <Bray90820> i am running RC2
[00:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you not read it? you can change that.
[00:54] <Bray90820> i will have a look
[00:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> "If you haven’t installed Android-x86 4.0 RC1 but some other version, replace the lines containing “android-4.0-RC1″ with your version."
[00:55] <haryv> ntzrmtthihu777,  missing destination file operand after
[00:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what did you exactly type
[00:56] <haryv> hold, let me download a chat app on ubuntu im on my windows laptop
[00:56] <Negron> these
[00:56] <Negron> ??
[00:56] <dr_willis> Casonade: you did put the commands befor the   exit   statement in rc.local?
[00:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: that would be xchat or irssi
[00:57] <haryv> thats what i use
[00:57] <Casonade> @dr_willis:  before "exit 0", Yes sir!
[00:57] <Negron> no entiendo
[00:57] <dr_willis> Casonade:  and the exact line you added was?
[00:57] <Casonade> I will paste it here, hold on.
[00:57] <Negron> esto es una pc escolar de venezuela
[00:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: no vas a #ubuntu-es?
[00:58] <dakotawulfy> Casonade this page tells u how to do what u want http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-powertop-21-in-ubuntu-1204.html
[00:58] <haryv> ugg do not recall why ubunto was not asking for root password during setup. have to boot into single user mode to reset it. hold
[00:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: oh, no espanol, pourtuguise?
[00:58] <Casonade> #!/bin/sh -e # # rc.local # # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other # value on error. # # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution # bits. # # By default this script does nothing.  echo 2 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness  echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs  echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/
[00:58] <Negron> español
[00:58] <Negron> español
[00:58] <Casonade> Oh no.
[00:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: you don't need a root password
[00:58] <haryv> su password not working
[00:58] <Negron> quien entrar un lugar que hablen español
[00:59] <Negron> quiero entrar en un lugar qe hablen español
[00:59] <Casonade> echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[00:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: yo digo a ti, va a #ubuntu-es
[00:59] <escott> Casonade, paste.ubuntu.com will be easier to read
[01:00] <jrib> !sudo | haryv
[01:00] <ydoisayyes> Quickie~ What is the fastest way to copy data from one partition to another on the same device? Both are ntfs if it matters. I don't care if the copy is bootable, I would like specific file access after copy though so I am trying to avoid something like clonezilla. I am unsure of my dd skills.
[01:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: use sudo
[01:00] <haryv> password for sudo not working
[01:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: I think you would hafta use dd
[01:00] <jrib> haryv: you're using your user's password?
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> dd if=/dev/sda1 pf=/dev/sda2, replace with your values
[01:01] <haryv> yes
[01:01] <jrib> haryv: what is the output of « groups »?
[01:01] <escott> haryv, what is the output of "groups"
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: oops, of=
[01:01] <Casonade> There is one little concern: "Suggestion: Enable Device Power Management by pressing the P key" is listed on powertop.log but I do not know how to put a script for that in rc.local
[01:01] <joshlegs> i hurd there's drama in these parts
[01:01] <ydoisayyes> ntzrmtthihu777: ok thats what I thought but dd scares me.
[01:01] <haryv> im at the shell prompt
[01:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ydoisayyes: don't be afriaid, its usefull
[01:02] <5EXAAITZZ> fixed the problem.  stupid dnsmasq
[01:02] <haryv> groups says root
[01:02] <LFLKSJS> anyone know of any chat room for renewable energy?
[01:02] <escott> haryv, only root is a member of the root group
[01:02] <LFLKSJS> chatrooms*
[01:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: no, but I like the subject
[01:02] <dr_willis> !alis > LFLKSJS
[01:02] <escott> haryv, ie you should only see "root" mentioned inf you already ran sudo -i
[01:03] <escott> haryv, try "whoami"
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> !alis > ntzrmtthihu777
[01:03] <Casonade> @Dr. WIllis:  Are you still there?
[01:03] <haryv> root
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: that's damn cool
[01:03] <dr_willis> no one ever actually reads the bots messages....
[01:03] <haryv> not sure why su did not except my password unlike booting into single user mode
[01:03] <escott> well the bot is dead
[01:03] <one> good job root
[01:03] <dr_willis> Casonade:  @ is for twitter not irc....
[01:03] <LFLKSJS> anyone into making homemade things?
[01:04] <escott> haryv, su does not work on ubuntu systems. you are already root so sudo is pointless
[01:04] <LFLKSJS> i.e. engineering type gadgetry?
[01:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: did you not see the bot
[01:04] <escott> or rather the bot is back, resurrected from the dead
[01:04] <jrib> haryv: if you read the documentation ubottu sent you it may clear some up some of your doubts
[01:04] <Casonade> Hello?
[01:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> LFLKSJS: did you not see the bot's message? cool things you speak of, but not the place for them
[01:05] <LFLKSJS> sorry
[01:05] <LFLKSJS> thanks for the info
[01:05] <Casonade> I don't use Twitter, so I don't know, anyway, is there anything else you need?
[01:08] <dr_willis> Casonade:  we just needed the ONE line.. and it would be betst if you just read that guide someome mentioned.. it will know more then i do on the topic
[01:08] <Negron> español
[01:08] <ydoisayyes> ntzrmtthihu777: should the partitions be mounted or unmouted?
[01:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> unmounted, I believe. if they are mounted they become a directory tree and cannot be dd'd
[01:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Negron: nosotros no hablamos espanol aqui
[01:09] <dr_willis> you dont want to image a mounted filesystem..
[01:10] <maxped> i need to copy a link from lynx browser. only problem is the link exceeds the amount that can be printed on the screen, too long. any ideas on how to copy the link?
[01:10] <Casonade> Bah.
[01:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: are you in pure cli or inside a terminal window?
[01:11] <dr_willis> the tinyurl type sites can help  with long link issues
[01:12] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: well......ssh over putty, so pure cli. no gui on my box
[01:12] <dr_willis> save the page with the link to a file. cut it from the file perhaps.
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, that is tricky.
[01:12] <dr_willis> putty dosent have a open link feature?  to open it on a local browser?
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yeah, curl the source, sed the " into \n, and then grep out the url
[01:13] <haryv> which desktop theme in unbuntu uses the least amount of cpus?
[01:13] <Madkiss> ahum. so now I updated to 13.04-rc and my bluetooth is gone, i.e. i can't enable it from within KDE
[01:13] <dr_willis> haryv:  i doubt if it matters much. since compiz is using more then what the themes will
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: the one that isnt unity
[01:14] <dr_willis> Madkiss:  #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[01:14] <maxped> dr_willis: putty doesnt see the link
[01:14] <haryv> trying ti ID what is making this new install a bit slow. What option in TOP dhows what process is gobling up cpu' cycles?
[01:15] <dr_willis> maxped:  top sorts by cpu ussage by default i belive
[01:15] <subcool> anyone please- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591971
[01:15] <Intergage> Hey guys, if I install iscsitarget onto a clean xbuntu machine, will I be able to get my ESX servers to see and connect to them the same as the OpenFiler machine I currently have doing it?
[01:15] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: the only thing i recognize is grep lol. i will have to google the rest...thanks for the help
[01:15] <dr_willis> maxped:  htop is a bit nicer then top - easier to read.
[01:15] <haryv> aptd is gobbling up 53 % wow
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> its easy, max
[01:16] <subcool> im trying to use boot-repair to fix my boot. But- i keep running into package manager issues..
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: curl -s "url" | sed 's|"|\n|g' | grep "target link"
[01:16] <maxped> dr_willis: not sure how we got on that topic
[01:16] <dr_willis> subcool:  havent tried that boot-repair cd  yet eh?
[01:16] <selena2013> use boot repair
[01:16] <dakotawulfy> subcool did u add the repos???
[01:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> selena2013: he did, thats where the paste came from
[01:17] <selena2013> o sorry
[01:17] <haryv> update-apt-xapi 95% in top?????
[01:17] <haryv> what is this process?
[01:17] <Intergage> Anyone worked with ESX servers before?
[01:17] <subcool> dr_willis, lol - nope.
[01:18] <doomlord> does ubuntu run ok on the chromebook pixel
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> subcool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:18] <dr_willis> subcool:  i mnetione dit yesterday. theres a link on the ubuntu boot repair wiki page. its a 32/64 bit (dual version)  live cd - just for running boot-repair
[01:18] <subcool> dr_willis, i reinstall freshly my livecd. this is baby fresh. - dakotawulfy yea- that its installed. when i run the program it errors with an open packagemanager.
[01:18] <subcool> dr_willis, yea- i know.. thats next on my list of things to do...
[01:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: curl -s "url" | sed 's|"|\n|g' | grep "target link" > text.txt
[01:19] <subcool> dr_willis, im going to setup a dual boot with yumi...
[01:19] <subcool> after this..
[01:19] <subcool> lol
[01:19] <selena2013> yea there is a guide , you have to use the remix for 64bits
[01:19] <dr_willis> subcool:  Hmm.. that dosent make sence.
[01:19] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i ALMOST have it
[01:19] <subcool> exactly :/
[01:20] <dr_willis> I got boot-repair installed on  my 12.10 system with  no issues.. so not sure what your apt issues are about
[01:20] <Bray90820> but when i try to load android from grub it is saying error you need to load the kernel firat
[01:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: see? I use a similar technique to load an iso
[01:20] <Bray90820> so do you know how i would fix it?
[01:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: pastebin your 40_custom
[01:20] <subcool> dr_willis, i have it on my 12.04 - fresh. - when i run the program, it goes to fix everything. Then pops up with a :close paackage manager and try again"
[01:20] <Bray90820> ok
[01:21] <dr_willis> subcool:  perhaps its heking for newer versions of itself..
[01:21] <dr_willis> checking
[01:21] <dr_willis> it may have an option to not do that.
[01:21] <subcool> dr_willis, im opening the app again now.
[01:22] <dr_willis> i rarely actually need to RUN the boot-repair tool. ;)
[01:22] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the syntax but i dont want to just copy paste. i will need to do the research to learn what i am doing. for now i suppose i can use a gui on another system to accomplish my orignal task until my command line skills get better.
[01:22] <dr_willis> I just have it installed just in case.
[01:22] <Seven_Six_Two> I thought that I was getting EM interference, causing my sound to crackle, but that's not it. Playing a flash video (the same song as a FLAC that I was playing) has no crackle, but both mp3 and flac (audacious and totem) have the crackling sound. Any ideas why? Nothing on my pc has changed, and it certainly hasn't always done this.
[01:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: exactly why do you need it?
[01:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:23] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: to copy long random character string url into other app
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I've played with all of my sound options, and ensured that I'm not running anything else, and audacious isn't using too much cpu.
[01:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, you could, instead of the > text.txt, pass it into the next part with |
[01:25] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: true, but im sure your other idea will work, i just want to make sure i know what i am doing.
[01:25] <Seven_Six_Two> the crackle is on all 5.1 speakers, and only while music is playing in audacious, totem. VLC doesn't do it. neither does flash.
[01:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: lol, true. its an easy trick really. curl -s pulls the source of a page, which would include the links, sed 's|"|\n|g' replaces " with newlines, and grep you know.
[01:27] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: manpage says curl -s makes curl silent
[01:28] <subcool> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/03/07/snapshot1.png
[01:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yup, curl snatches the source, but -s makes it do it invisibly, you don't want the source for a page streaming across your tty
[01:28] <subcool> dr_willis, ^^
[01:29] <haryv> is there a graphical window to disable services that are running in memory?
[01:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: gnome-system-monitor
[01:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: like task manager in win$
[01:30] <haryv> yes,,,it working now
[01:30] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uj4Qnm7a
[01:31] <Bray90820> it might take a few minutes to load tho because pastebin is over capacity
[01:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: holy crap
[01:31] <dsr> anyone know why 'vgchange -a n test' doesn't deactivate all the LVs in test? After the vgchange I run lvscan and all the LVs show as active
[01:31] <Bray90820> lol
[01:31] <haryv> why i get the feeling compwiz is imprtant
[01:32] <dr_willis> compiz is the window manager used by unity
[01:32] <haryv> well, mistale for killing it :)
[01:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: epic. fail.
[01:32] <haryv> lol
[01:33] <dr_willis> killing init would be epic
[01:33] <dr_willis> killing compiz is trivial. ;)
[01:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I can uninstall compiz if I only use gnome-fallback, right?
[01:34] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i suggest leaveing it alone
[01:34] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, no reason uninstall unless you are out of disk space
[01:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: escott: I set a 16gb root, plenty of space but I wanna keep it that way
[01:38] <aartist> My mouse has jammed Ubuntu:12.04
[01:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: still not loading
[01:38] <subcool> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/03/07/snapshot1.png dr_willis
[01:38] <Bray90820> LOL
[01:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: ubuntu has its own paste, try that one
[01:38] <haryv> compwiz should be called killthiscrashdesktop
[01:38] <dsr> anyone have experience configuring LVM? I have a stupid question
[01:38] <Bray90820> didn't i already send you the pastebin?
[01:39] <Bray90820> here it is again
[01:39] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uj4Qnm7a
[01:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes, but its not loading. ubuntu has its own one, and it may not be overloaded
[01:39] <haryv> to bad there wasnt a script that can shut down non essensial services
[01:39] <Taev> can some one tell me why when i click restart, my ubuntu install hangs on boot, but when i shut down, and power up. it boots
[01:39] <jrib> dsr: it's general irc etiquette to just ask the question and find out
[01:39] <Bray90820> how about i send it to you as a txt
[01:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> doable
[01:41] <Bray90820> so a txt file is ok?
[01:41] <dsr> why does vgchange -a n or lvchange -a n seem to have no effect even though the command runs successfully
[01:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: its cool, /q me. I don't want my email in open irc (not that I don't trust you guys)
[01:42] <Bray90820> im just going to send you a dropbox link
[01:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: that works too
[01:43] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33402675/Untitled%20Document%202.txt
[01:43] <dr_willis> haryv:  you are thinking in wondows terms/mindset... you really  dont need to worry about succh things for the most part
[01:44] <dr_willis> haryv:  the biggest threat to a linux system i find.. is the admin/root user, doing silly  things.. ;)
[01:44] <haryv> yes true
[01:44] <haryv> btw, thanks guys for responding to my questions. Shows how much people care about asnwering questions ..even if they seem inoculous :)
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: try changing it to android-x86-4.0.4-rc2 ; is this on the same machine we are communicating with?
[01:45] <haryv> I had to use a pry-bar to get the guys in windows-server to answer anything.
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: thats win$ for you
[01:46] <Bray90820> it is not
[01:46] <haryv> mabey just the attitudes of the guys there. I finally ruffled there feathers when I said employers here do not care as much about as experiance as cirts and experiance.
[01:46] <dr_willis> they are all too busy admining  their macchines to cchit cchat. ;)
[01:46] <haryv> yes true
[01:46] <hero100> I can connect my laptop to my room mate's laptop via wireless network in windows, but cannot do it in linux. what's the problem?
[01:46] <wubino> whats going in bitcoin that they are #9 most crowded irc room?
[01:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it is not
[01:46] <haryv> to a point :)
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> amarok is also clicking and popping. I just listened to the flac on my pmp, and it's not the file.
[01:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: k. Please use my nick when you address me, as the chat moves quickly and I am doing alot, so I need the extra visual cue
[01:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i will from now on
[01:47] <Seven_Six_Two> there is something that is done by audacious, amarok, totem, that isn't being done by vlc and flash.
[01:47] <hero100> when I ping, it says my own host destination unreachable
[01:47] <haryv> stay far far away from bitcoin. Bitcoin is or will be exploited by organized crime!!!
[01:47] <aartist> my mouse is jammed and i see this problem often. I end up in rebooting computer is there an alternative solution?
[01:48] <ryebread761> haryv I thought bitcoin was supposed to be pretty secure?
[01:48] <haryv> get a new mouse
[01:48] <smokey1> hey all
[01:48] <dr_willis> aartist:  ssh in, and restart the X server perhaps. ;)
[01:48] <haryv> nooo there is no tracability of the transations. that is what makes it so attractive to criminals
[01:48] <smokey1> any one that could be of help today
[01:48] <Curs0r> Patty the bitcoin hooker doesn't like a paper trail
[01:48] <ryebread761> oh
[01:48] <haryv> Once terrorist know about bitcoin, I am assured they will use it.
[01:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> smokey1: we cant tell you that till you ask your question !ask | smokey1
[01:49] <haryv> FBI is looking into bitcoin
[01:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | smokey1
[01:49] <aartist> dr_willis: I have single computer and I am on it. , what I should do? I have my keyboard fully working and I can go to browser, terminal, emacs etc..
[01:50] <dr_willis> aartist:  if its just the moust freezing.  you can try to restart the X server via the terminal  'sudo servicec lightdm restart'
[01:50] <dr_willis> aartist:  you  could also try unplug/repluging in the mouse
[01:50] <haryv> CIA NSA and FBI use powerfull servers to scan over all the transactions from and two countries looking for clues on the funding of organized crime.
[01:51] <usr13> dr_willis: aartist That's "service"  not  "servicec"
[01:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I think the problem is the original page had a typo, maybe. try replacing root=/dev/ram0 with boot=/dev/ram0
[01:51] <dr_willis> haryv:  lovely... and Off topic..
[01:51] <Bray90820> well i maniged to get the loading kernal thing resloved
[01:51] <smokey1>  does any hear use navi x my everytime i play a movie through the server the video and audio go out of sync does not play movie all the way throw without skipping at all hope some one can help
[01:51] <Bray90820> but it still says file not found
[01:51] <Bray90820> then reboots
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> file not found, which one? any other info?
[01:52] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 there is no other info
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> k
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you see my earlier suggestion regarding boot/root?
[01:53] <Bray90820> im looking at it noe
[01:53] <Bray90820> now
[01:53] <AndreiHk`> http://chat.underirc.eu/
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: can you give me a link to the iso? If I could peek at it myself I could maybe help
[01:56] <AndreiHk`> http://chat.underirc.eu/
[01:56] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.android-x86.org/download i downloaded this one android-x86-4.0-RC2-tegav2.iso
[01:57] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 thank you by the way
[01:57] <dr_willis> isent the tegav2 for a specific cchipset/mahine?
[01:57] <elisa87> Are you aware of any package/tool that can extract the CFG(flow graph) of a (CUDA) code?
[01:57] <elisa87> Are you aware of any package/tool that can extract the CFG(flow graph) of a (CUDA) code?
[01:59] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670 that is my problem
[02:01] <toasty_> does anyone know of a ppa for rvm?
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> toasty_: ruby version manager? no, but you can add it with the instructions on the site
[02:01] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670
[02:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | puraki
[02:02] <brightspark> toasty_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128966/how-do-i-install-ruby-rvm
[02:02] <dr_willis> there are ppa searh sites/tools
[02:03] <dr_willis> searcch
[02:03] <dr_willis> !ppa
[02:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: downloading the iso now
[02:03] <Apes> !addppa
[02:03] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 thank you
[02:03] <Apes> Don't you need a package to run that command?
[02:04] <usr13> puraki: So you un-installed pulseaudio and it did not change anything?  (Still quits working after certain length of time?)
[02:05] <puraki> No, my problem is
[02:05] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for your help, still not entirley sure what i (you) did, but i got what i needed  and learned more about the power of linux.
[02:05] <puraki> that the dash doesn't fade in
[02:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: its simple man. curl you know, right?
[02:06] <puraki> The problem is occuring on an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 32-bit system on VirtualBox 4.1.16 on Windows 7 64-bit
[02:06] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: curl i picked up pretty quick, sed im getting, just hard remebering when to use what and what options to use.
[02:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: again, you cannot expect full performance under a virtualbox under win$
[02:07] <dr_willis> puraki:  virtualbox has issues with unity due to 3d driver supports. you may  be using Unity2d by default that does not have all the fancy eye candy effects
[02:07] <aaron_> Why woul anyone want to use virtualbox under windows?
[02:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: sed and awk are by far two of the most usefull commands to learn
[02:07] <puraki> I am using Unity 3D
[02:07] <dr_willis> aaron_:  to have a little linux system to use for real work. ;)
[02:07] <puraki> not 2D
[02:08] <dr_willis> puraki:  how are you sure of that?
[02:09] <puraki> Because I checked on the login screen
[02:09] <aaron_> dr_willis: I haven't touched windows quite literally in years, guess Im one of the lucky ones :)
[02:09] <puraki> I clicked the little ubuntu icon
[02:09] <puraki> and selected Ubuntu, not Ubuntu 2D
[02:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> aaron_: I just completely got rid of win$ on my machines
[02:09] <dr_willis> puraki:  thats not proof.. If the 3d drivers are not found.. the system Can default to unity-2d i reccall..
[02:10] <dr_willis> try selecting unity 2d and see if it works the same
[02:10] <puraki> ok
[02:10]  * dr_willis wonders why it really matters
[02:10]  * ntzrmtthihu777 thinks its because win$ gotta have flash over performance
[02:10] <dsr> how do I deactivate a logical volume or a volume group? vgchange -an test doesn't do anything
[02:10] <dr_willis> i normally  use Lubuntu in vbox
[02:11] <puraki> Same thing happens
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: thin in that case it is defaulting to 2d ike he said.
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: and I repeat: you cannot expect to get full performance under vbox under win$
[02:13] <dr_willis> i normally  use Lubuntu in vbox.....
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> never got the answer to my question, only opinions. can I remove compiz if I only boot gnome-fallback
[02:15] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  best to leave it alone..
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: not my question.
[02:15] <dr_willis> your space saveing will be minimal. and chance of breakeing somthhing  is  there.
[02:15] <dr_willis> go for it and see if you really  want to
[02:16] <usr13> dr_willis: I suppose he can re-install compiz if something turns out to be broken.  Right?
[02:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't see how anything can break as compiz is never used
[02:16] <usr13> ... reinstalling will more-than-likely fix what ever gets broken.
[02:17] <usr13> I don't ever uninstall compiz so I don't really know.
[02:18] <usr13> ... But it does make sense to uninstall compiz if you never intend to use it...
[02:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ ubuntu-tweak depends on it
[02:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> so if I uninstall compiz it will take out ubuntu-tweak, and installing that will reinstall compiz?
[02:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> I really wish they would add support for other locations in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[02:25] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, like what?
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ~/Dropbox, for one
[02:26] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you can put whatever you want in there
[02:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: apparently you have not looked into how it works much.
[02:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> you can add anything to it, but it won't do much good
[02:27] <puraki> http://prntscr.com/vbgiq with Unity 3D | http://prntscr.com/vbgt2 with Unity 2D
[02:27] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, what would  you expect it to do though?
[02:28] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, its just a way to localize certain folder names. nothing else
[02:28] <puraki> The dash looks darker in Unity 2D than in Unity 3D.
[02:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: kinda silly, and more or less aethetic, but I hate that I have to add ~/Dropbox and ~/Ubuntu\ One to bookmarks, and they don't get added into the "computer" section of nautilus or the gnome2 places menu
[02:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I actually have my ~/Dropbox set up in place of ~/Public so that at least works right, but what about Ubuntu One?
[02:30] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, any reason it cannot be the same?
[02:30] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you have to be careful because public implies a folder that should be shared by things like samba
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I sacrificed ~/Public (which I never use) for dropbox, but there are no other folders to sacrifice.
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I don't use samba, no win$ boxes to share with
[02:31] <dr_willis> ~/CloudJunk
[02:31] <phoney7> I am trying to follow the instructions here http://aperiodic.net/screen/faq#when_i_split_the_display_and_then_detach_screen_forgets_the_split but I can't detach the session.
[02:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: no, then they would likely sync together wasting even more cloud space.
[02:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: what did you use to take these screenies, a win$ program or ubuntu?
[02:32] <dr_willis> I wonder if theres a fuse tool to merge all my cloud storage into one bigger storage. ;)
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, that would be awesome. lvm for fuse.
[02:33] <puraki> lightshot
[02:33] <puraki> on windows
[02:33] <dr_willis> only thing i really  keep on the cloud are my wallpaper images  and comic book files.. in case i want to read them from my phone.
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> That's where I keep all my ultra-secret spy passwords.
[02:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: ah so only little things. I back up gb's worth of stuff to the cloud, so I need it to be frugal
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: but in particular ~/Dropbox and ~/Ubuntu\ One
[02:35] <dr_willis> so far the neat est use of the  'cloud' i saw was to keep Digital books on  via  Calibre - but then aparently  that started getting banned/books deleted. ;(
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, really?
[02:35] <dr_willis> I find the Space in 'Ubuntu One' to be a bit annoying. ;)
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: As do I, I am using a terminal client so it escapes it :/
[02:36] <dr_willis> Yea. lifehacker had an artical on keeping your Calibre book library on dropbox in the public dir (or somthing) to let you read your books from othe rdevices..  then Dropbox aparently  started removeing peoples libraries.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I only store a truecrypt container on dropbox.
[02:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: waittaminute, dammit I've been doing that!
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: gnome-fallback does not use gnome3, right?
[02:37] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  ive not really done it to the  extent the Lifehacker site was showing. I just keep a few books/cbr files oon mine.
[02:37] <dr_willis> I dont use gnome fallback.. but i would say  YES it does use gnome3
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: cbr == <3
[02:37] <boldfilter> It does
[02:37] <dr_willis> or at least parts of it.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: so nifty!
[02:38] <dr_willis> the next gnome 3.8? it supposed to have an actual gnome2 theme or somthing from what ive seen.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I hope so, I can't stand unity
[02:38] <dr_willis> I perfer gnome-shell  to  the flakey fallback/failsafe/grandfather modes. ;)
[02:38] <dr_willis> unity works fine for me..
[02:38] <dr_willis> 13.04 has some neat features added to it also.
[02:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I'm using a touch-screen pc and I still cant stand it
[02:39] <dr_willis> cant say i have any issues with it..
[02:39] <boldfilter> Its a change
[02:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: true, but we are not the same fella
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> I like cinnamon.
[02:39] <dr_willis> i jump around from so many os's and differnt pcs in the course of a day. im used to everything being differnt on each pc
[02:41] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i just realized your hardware is going to be different then mine
[02:42] <dr_willis> too bad that metesse (metisse?) window manager never got popular..
[02:42] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so you will have to download a different version
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: virtualbox, mate
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> and i just wanted to look inside it anyways
[02:44] <mrrogens> hello
[02:44] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 but still the tegra version prob won't work for you
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so to match your internals i need the same iso
[02:44] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so you can emulate my hardware?
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: again, I don't need to. I just wanna unpack it like a .zip
[02:45] <Bray90820> ahh so your not actually installing it?
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> newp, maybe chrooting into it, but thats about it.
[02:45] <Bray90820> well that answers my question :p
[02:46] <Bray90820> carry on
[02:47] <maxped> i watched a video on youtube of awk. can anyone give any examples of how you use it?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> is anyone aware of a guide for manually doing what usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin does?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: awk can do so many things its unreal
[02:48] <elisa87> what should I install to be able to see a .mov file?
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: man awk will give you alot of info
[02:49] <escott> elisa87, i would try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:49] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: the little tut i watched was prtty basic, just trying to get an idea of what others may use it for.
[02:49] <histo> elisa87: vlc is one player or you can install the codec for whatever player you like
[02:49] <histo> !codecs | elisa87
[02:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: wanna see how I used it?
[02:50] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: sure. im game
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ntzrmtthihu777/linutaux
[02:51] <histo> maxped: what is it that you want to do with it?
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get luct
[02:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: he's just learning
[02:55] <maxped> histo: i had issue, ntzrmtthihu777 helped me out with sed, said that i should learn awk too. just curious
[02:55] <tpw_rules> hey. i need help with netatalk
[02:55] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: i guess i'll look at what your providing and trust you're not trying to hose me. ;)
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: its just a text-manipulation script in essense, but has big use in the utau linux community
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> it will install 2 main files plus the documentation. check out /usr/bin/luct
[02:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: whole lotta useful sed and awk there
[02:55] <histo> maxped: tldp.org is a good start for learning
[03:03] <moes> 12.04 full install to usb flash drive ...when booting first window is "out of range cannot display video mode change computer display input to 1600x1200 @ 60 mhz" it times out then boots ??
[03:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> antonio__: again, define morph. do you mean like a fade-in fade-out or like a werewolf morph or what
[03:03] <antonio__> werewolf morph
[03:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> antonio__: not under linux, but win$ had a program called [ph|f]antamorph
[03:03] <Guest703> having an issue with 12.10 just installed nvidia drivers and now the side pane wont show up and windows will not move
[03:03] <Guest703> how can thiws be undone
[03:03] <dr_willis> moes:  grub is using some mode your monitor cant handle. You can edit your /etc/default/grub to tell it to use a differnt mode. or the text menu mode
[03:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you try swapping root for boot?
[03:04] <moes> dr_willis..Thanks for the info
[03:04] <Bray90820> i will be back in 20 minutes
[03:04] <antonio__> thanks
[03:05] <dr_willis> Guest703:  does the guest user account work properly? you seem to be haveing some sort of unity/3d driver issues.
[03:05] <will_> also did this sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:06] <Guest31327> along with update nvidia and now things are messed up
[03:06] <Guest31327> how can it be undone
[03:08] <dr_willis> try booting an older kernel from the grub menu Guest31327  - see if it works there.
[03:08] <Ububegin> Any good text to speech software for our video presentations... Something which can generate quite natural sounding voices will be great.. :)
[03:08] <will__> anything yet?
[03:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ububegin: what language?
[03:11] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: are 'cvc', 'vc' and 'romaji', 'kana' variables
[03:11] <maxped> ?
[03:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: yesh
[03:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> they are types of files with different setups
[03:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> actually if you are looking at the conv_cv_vcv(){ sections these are function names
[03:12] <maxped> ntzrmtthihu777: cool, that will definatley be something to get me started, thanks.
[03:13] <Ububegin> ntzrmtthihu777: English, :)
[03:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxped: this was my first major bash work. I want to make it pure cli, but as of yet it has a text based menu interface
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ububegin: nevermind then. I was aware of on that did japanese, but you can make it speak "engrish", but thats about it.
[03:16] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so what were you saying
[03:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: did you try swappint root=/dev with boot=/dev?
[03:17] <Bray90820> what do you mean
[03:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean on the line that says root=/dev/ram0 try boot=
[03:18] <Bray90820> ok
[03:19] <mmnicolas> hello
[03:19] <hossein> Hi, I have a question
[03:20] <hossein> about ubuntu lucid
[03:20] <mmnicolas> do you guys have a social channel ? something like #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | hossein
[03:20] <hossein> can anyone tell me how
[03:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mmnicolas: exactly that
[03:20] <hossein> to add new repository in lucid
[03:20] <suhaib> so I decided to use a previous kernel, because wireless doesn't work in the new kernel, How can I lock this kernel so that I don't have to select the old kernel from the grub everytime I boot the laptop ?
[03:21] <dr_willis> new repositories for what exactly? hossein
[03:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: lucid is no longer supported officially, but you can find out.
[03:21] <hossein> I will write the path of it
[03:21] <hossein> I am a researcher
[03:21] <hossein> i need to use others software
[03:21] <hossein> this is the website
[03:22] <hossein> http://gmplib.org
[03:22] <dr_willis> its likely you  will need to compile from source hossein
[03:22] <hossein> wow seams so dificult
[03:22] <dr_willis> unless the site specifically mentions they have a ppa for lucid.
[03:22] <hossein> as I am new to ubuntu
[03:22] <dr_willis> You are the one using an out of date release.. i suggest you  upgrade to a newer release
[03:23] <hossein> I cant
[03:23] <hossein> the software which requires this website pacage can only be installed
[03:23] <suhaib> hossein: why ?
[03:23] <hossein> using this
[03:23] <dr_willis> we CAN read more then 3 words on a single line hossein  , no need to hit enter every 3 words...
[03:24] <hossein> I am getting mad :D
[03:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> you would be surprised what you can do on a newer release
[03:24] <hossein> I used 12.10
[03:24] <hossein> but I have to use lucid now
[03:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: try 12.04, its supported for 5 more years
[03:25] <hossein> I cant
[03:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> why not?
[03:25] <hossein> the third party software that I am using is that old that can only work on lucid
[03:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what does the 3rd party software do
[03:26] <hossein> just let me know how to add this site as a repository in lucid
[03:26] <dr_willis> guess you learn to compile it from source  then.. unless they specifically have a ppa for lucid made up. or packages made for it..
[03:26] <hossein> It is for robotics
[03:26] <dr_willis> hossein:  just because they have a web site does NOT mean they have a ppa for it.
[03:26] <hossein> but the readme file said they have it
[03:27] <OerHeks> hossein, build it youself http://gmplib.org/devel/repo-usage.html
[03:27] <hossein> the software is tested before with their ppa
[03:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what does it say the ppa is?
[03:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: it should be something like ppa:something/bar
[03:28] <hossein> tell me what deb means
[03:28] <dr_willis> the readme file may  also be quite out of date. and they  may have closed down the ppa
[03:28] <hossein> it does not work in lucid command
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: deb is like a windows installer
[03:28] <dr_willis> !apt | hossein
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: to install a deb you use
[03:28] <puraki> .deb is the file extension for ubuntu packages
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: sudo dpkg -i name_of.deb
[03:29] <NanaHaru>  I have a question about installing Ubuntu onto a bare drive and UEFI...
[03:29] <NanaHaru> Could anyone help?
[03:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !anyone | NanaHaru
[03:30] <hossein> I just want to add the site as a repository in lucid
[03:30] <hossein> is there any comand base code?
[03:30] <suhaib> !poll
[03:30] <dr_willis> !ppa
[03:30] <dr_willis> !addppa
[03:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: in precise its sudo add-apt-reposritory ppa
[03:31] <hossein> ok let me try it
[03:31] <NanaHaru> Okay, so my new computer will not run Ubuntu. All my hardware should be compatible. I've tried running various version on both CD and USb and it won't go past the "try Ubuntu" without either an error or just stopping.
[03:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> you need the name from the readme
[03:31] <suhaib> !details
[03:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> NanaHaru: you may need to run it in nomodeset
[03:31] <suhaib> !gp
[03:31] <dr_willis> NanaHaru:  what errors?
[03:31] <NanaHaru> How do I run it in nomodeset?
[03:31] <suhaib> !pg
[03:31] <haryv> thinking of dumping ubuntu simply because it was never setup with asterisk in mind.
[03:32] <NanaHaru> I have no OS as of yet and it's UEFI
[03:32] <haryv> or asterisknow
[03:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: what is asterisk
[03:32] <dr_willis> you  can use the nomodeset option from the LIVE cd
[03:32] <NanaHaru> Okay I'll try that now~
[03:32] <haryv> ntzr www.digium.com www.asterisk.com
[03:33] <suhaib> so I decided to use a previous kernel, because wireless doesn't work in the new kernel, How can I lock this version of the kernel so that I don't have to select the old kernel from the grub everytime I boot the laptop ?
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> haryv: I'm getting a sale's website
[03:33] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777: i havent tried what you said yeat but i did realize it was still trying to detect RC1 so i fixed that to RC2
[03:33] <suhaib> ntzrmtthihu777: rick rolled ?
[03:33] <Bray90820> and now it says detecting android
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: good
[03:33] <haryv> sales for what
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> stuff of seemingly sporty nature
[03:33] <Bray90820> but it's taking FOREVER to load
[03:34] <dr_willis> suhaib:  remove the other kernel. or  set the default entry in /etc/default/grub
[03:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what are your machine's specs
[03:34] <NanaHaru> In my Modes option under f4 I only get the options to: "Normal" "Use driver update disc" and OEM install"
[03:34] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-duo/pd
[03:34] <haryv> I sell network installation services. I am a field tech. But...moving away from platforms like fieldnation.com just need some project managers willing to take me on for national store chains.
[03:35] <leptone> has anyone expirenced youtube.com playing videos really fast and the audio is just loud clicking?
[03:35] <NanaHaru> Right now I'm using the Linux_secure ISO in accordance to a UEFI guide I was following
[03:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: well this review sucks
[03:36] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 why
[03:36] <hossein> it says "the command not found!"
[03:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: it does not tell me anything particularly usefull
[03:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: what did you type exactly
[03:36] <suhaib> dr_willis: thanks, so should I change this ? GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[03:37] <Bray90820> is this better
[03:37] <Bray90820> http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-3487FNT-Convertible-Laptop/dp/B004EWEZM4
[03:37] <hossein> lets do it again
[03:37] <hossein> this is what i typed
[03:37] <hossein> sudo add-get-repository ftp://ftp.gmplib.org
[03:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 is this better
[03:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777
[03:37] <Bray90820> ooops
[03:38] <suhaib> hossein: why don't you google how to add a ppa ?
[03:38] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-3487FNT-Convertible-Laptop/dp/B004EWEZM4
[03:38] <Bray90820> that one
[03:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: better, thank you
[03:38] <hossein> :D I did it but still got problem
[03:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: that is not the ppa
[03:38] <hossein> ok thanks
[03:38] <tgm4883> hossein, that should be apt-add-repository
[03:38] <Bray90820> :)
[03:38] <hossein> what?
[03:39] <hossein> oh ok
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: no, lol. should be add-apt-repository
[03:39] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, they are the same
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: the website is not the ppa
[03:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: get out, for real?
[03:40] <NanaHaru> So black screen with a whole bunch of white text.... When trying to "Try ubuntu before installing" is good or bad sign? as long as the underscore is blinking it's still loading?
[03:40] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Feb  6 15:14 /usr/bin/apt-add-repository -> add-apt-repository
[03:40] <bean> its add-apt-repository
[03:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you said the readme has the ppa in it, what does it say
[03:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: no kidding
[03:40] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, bean so either works. but apt-get-repository does not
[03:41] <hossein> now the problem is the site! it said the site is invalid
[03:41] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 prob if i gave it like 30 minutes it would correctly boot
[03:41] <Pici> hossein: The site you listed earlier is not a PPA
[03:41] <s3b`> okay, so I had hdmi working without audio. i added something to alsa-base.conf like someone suggested, and now i don't even get video signal. I deleted the line and still no video signal. ubuntu completely recognizes the tv in both display and sound though
[03:41] <s3b`> How do I begin debugging?
[03:41] <suhaib> NanaHaru: no, it seems you got a problem with the vga card
[03:42] <Swabby> Hello. I'm trying to run dosbox on ubuntu but getting "DirectFB" errors..any idea where i could begin to start to troubleshoot? I've done some googling on the error but haven't really turned up much.
[03:42] <suhaib> NanaHaru: what are the laptop/Pc specs ?
[03:42] <NanaHaru> Oh so if I take out the VGA then I should be able to install?
[03:42] <Ububegin> Hi, got cut off.. Any good text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks
[03:42] <rhenzar> Sorry for the random question, but are there any reasons why Ubuntu would simply not work on a computer?
[03:42] <s3b`> Ubuntu 12.10
[03:42] <NanaHaru> Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Processor: Intel i7 Ivy Brige Graphics Card: NVIDIA EVGA GTX 680 FTW RAM: Vengeance 8Gb HDD: Seagate 1Tb
[03:42] <Ububegin> rhenzar: hardware incompatibility mostly
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chris-lea/gmp
[03:43] <hossein> actually the software needs to download a package from the site but it cannot download it
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: 2 minutes of googling
[03:43] <hossein> ok
[03:43] <rhenzar> Ububegin: See, I built myself a PC with brand-new hardware and I can't run most distros.. Could that be why?
[03:43] <hossein> let me see
[03:43] <hossein> thanks all
[03:44] <rhenzar> Ububegin: Oh, also: only time Linux runs is in Wubi
[03:44] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, err, who is chris-lea? a dev for gmp I hope?
[03:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> wubi == fail
[03:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: it seems to be his, yeah
[03:45] <rhenzar> ntzrmtthihu777: The only reason I use Windows is to run Linux, that is my problem. New hardware I suppose?
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: have you tried a live cd
[03:45] <bsnl> How do you wipe a cd that is re writtable in ubuntu?
[03:45] <Ububegin> rhenzar: hmm,  try the liveCD
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> bsnl: acetoneiso has an option
[03:45] <histo> !uefi | rhenzar
[03:46] <Ububegin> rhenzar: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[03:46] <usr13> bsnl: I use k3b
[03:46] <Ububegin> Any good text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks
[03:46] <histo> !cdrw | bsnl
[03:46] <rhenzar> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah, I've done everything from Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/Fedora, usually not able to see cursor/screen freaks out, says it can't find the linuz file sometimes...
[03:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 could it be that the guide was for grub 2 and i am using 1.99
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you want the instructions in this page
[03:46] <histo> !good | Ububegin
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: grub2 = 1.99
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: http://gmplib.org/devel/repo-usage.html
[03:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so ubuntu uses grub 2?
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: use
[03:47] <hossein> thanks
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes
[03:47] <hossein> I am going to read it
[03:47] <Ububegin> Any natural sounding text to speech software/ or online pages which can convert paragraphs to wav/mp3 for a video presentation, we are doing in English.. Thanks ...
[03:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 ok
[03:47] <usr13> bsnl: You can just use cdrecord with option blank=fast
[03:48] <Ububegin> histo: have replaced good with natural sounding .. :)
[03:48] <bcbc2> rhenzar: what do you mean it only runs in wubi - because a wubi install is no different from a normal install (apart from the virtual disk and the boot mechanism)
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> hossein: you need to replace TARGDIR with the folder you want
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Ububegin
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 this is taking forever so i am going to try changing root to boot
[03:48] <usr13> bsnl: Example:  cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=fast
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's been going almost 25 minutes
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: cool, but remember where you are in this, lol
[03:48] <histo> Ububegin: You'd have to try the different ones available and see which one sounds "natural" to you; you're asking a very subjective question.
[03:48] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 what do you mean
[03:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I mean remeber the changes you make so if one breaks the process you know how to fix it
[03:49] <Bray90820> i always make a backup
[03:49] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I will partition my drive and follow guides for dual-boot procedures and the liveCD won't even continue past the opening splash/first few frames. With Wubi, the distro is already installed, but Xubuntu/Lubuntu break after like an hour, default is fine.
[03:49] <histo> !nomodeset | rhenzar
[03:49] <bcbc2> rhenzar: what graphics card do you have
[03:50] <NanaHaru> suhaib so is it my specs?
[03:50] <rhenzar> histo: ?
[03:50] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I just got a radeon 6870, why?
[03:50] <bcbc2> rhenzar: see the nomodeset comment
[03:50] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I'm new to IRC...
[03:50] <histo> rhenzar: you need to use at least 12.04 and 64bit just to avoid the EFI issue. If you are and experiencing blank screens try the nomodeset option specified above.
[03:51] <Injigo> evening!
[03:51] <Guest9947> Hello
[03:51] <bcbc2> rhenzar: some graphics cards don't have open source drivers and won't boot unless you use nomodeset. After installing you can install a closed source driver for them
[03:51] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Okay, but would that still apply if Wubi works completely fine (not talking about the different flavors, those are still buggy for me)
[03:52] <histo> rhenzar: yes wubi is installed inside of the winblows partition booted using windows bootloader
[03:52] <Ububegin> histo: not subjective, some like Speak It ! sound downright robotic...
[03:52] <histo> rhenzar: completely different animal
[03:52] <bcbc2> rhenzar: wubi (with Ubuntu) uses a pre-installed disk image. This bypasses ubiquity (the installer) so it's probably not dying because of that. But didn't you say you still have problems?
[03:52] <rhenzar> histo: Okay, thanks.
[03:53] <histo> rhenzar: you could also move from wubi to a full install. but it's kind of a pita if you are new to the game.
[03:53] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Yeah, I'll have weird software inconsistencies, like Ubuntu will act differently every time I install it (different widgets will break, like some data is corrupted at some point or something)
[03:53] <Lowlymath> Anyone willing to help me get my system working?  I've got a dual boot running 12.04.2 and can only get into tty1.  The system has been inactive for a few months and had it's mobo replaced.
[03:54] <bcbc2> rhenzar: exactly. You need to run additional-drivers and then install the proper graphics driver
[03:54] <rhenzar> bcbc2: I'll install and set up my favorite apps, and things will just start breaking.
[03:55] <bcbc2> rhenzar: using nomodeset will get you past the installer for a normal dual boot.
[03:55] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Does this also work with other distros? Sorry if it's not too appropriate to the channel, it's just that this is usually the only thing stopping me from my installs.
[03:56] <bcbc2> rhenzar: Most likely.
[03:56] <bcbc2> rhenzar: see this http://askubuntu.com/q/162075
[03:57] <rhenzar> bcbc2: IRC is awesome! I've been struggling with this for a while, actually!
[03:57] <histo> rhenzar: typically it will work. Assuming the other distros are using grub 2. If not you will have to find directions for changing kernel options in their bootloader
[03:57] <rhenzar> histo: Debian-based distros generally use grub 2, though, right?
[03:58] <bcbc2> rhenzar: I'm surprised they don't make it a bit easier to install since so many people have radeon/nvidia graphics cards. But... we just report on how to get around it
[03:58] <rhenzar> bcbc2: And I'm extremely thankful for that!
[03:58] <hossein> it doesn't work!
[04:00] <bcbc2> rhenzar: np Good luck installing
[04:00] <rhenzar> bcbc2: Before I go, any distros you can recommend?
[04:00] <bcbc2> rhenzar: sure. Ubuntu is great
[04:00] <bcbc2> ;)
[04:00] <histo> !ppa | hossein
[04:00] <rhenzar> bcbc2: That makes sense :P
[04:01] <rhenzar> Bye, all! Thanks for the help!
[04:01] <histo> !addppa > hossein
[04:01] <NanaHaru> I tried installing Ubuntu under nomodeset and I still just get a black screen with white text. My specs are  Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Processor: Intel i7 Ivy Brige Graphics Card: NVIDIA EVGA GTX 680 FTW RAM: Vengeance 8Gb HDD: Seagate 1tb
[04:01] <bcbc2> rhenzar: bye :)
[04:01] <histo> NanaHaru: does it boot?
[04:01] <hossein> the error is: cannot connect to 130.137.222.241
[04:02] <hossein> I can open the site manually
[04:02] <NanaHaru> histo : I can only get to the opening screen where I get the options to install, try ubuntu, etc
[04:02] <histo> hossein: perhaps the ppa is down. YOu need to contact THEM for support.
[04:03] <histo> NanaHaru: and what happens when you try passing the nomodeset option?  It just hangs?
[04:03] <hossein> oh ok. this is good
[04:03] <NanaHaru> histo : I basically enter a CMD/terminal screen (just black with a whole bunch of white text)
[04:04] <histo> !md5sum | NanaHaru
[04:05] <rhenzar> histo: Also, why do you keep writing like that?
[04:06] <histo> rhenzar: having the bot give people help to frequently asked questions and problems
[04:06] <Lowlymath> Is there any way to boot  a disc from terminal?  my keyboard isn't being recognized in preboot
[04:07] <histo> rhenzar: !factoid_term
[04:07] <rhenzar> That makes sense :P
[04:07] <NanaHaru> histo : I used MD5 Checksum as recommonded by someone on the help forums earlier. My disk and usb are both clean and full.
[04:07] <histo> !factoid > rhenzar
[04:07] <histo> NanaHaru: did the checksum's match?
[04:08] <rhenzar> histo: That's helpful
[04:08] <NanaHaru> histo : Yes they matched
[04:09] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 changing that seemed to have no effect on anything
[04:09] <rhenzar> histo: "CTCP version reply 'Suck it Trebek' from histo"?
[04:10] <histo> rhenzar: ;)
[04:10] <rhenzar> histo: I'm new at this IRC thing, you guys have me confused sometimes :D
[04:10] <decci> Error: Invalid parameters: default_widget_template. The '/usr/share/plesk-billing/integration' utility was failed. All details of the problem has been stored into the '/opt/plesk-billing/lib/billing-libs/Billing/Integration/Cli/integration.crash.log' file. [08:01] <decci> Its a fresh installation
[04:10] <histo> rhenzar: I changed my versions reply to say that from the default message on my client.
[04:11] <histo> decci: can you pastebin the integration.crash.log file?
[04:12] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 got any more ideas
[04:12] <NanaHaru> histo : One thing though, is that I have no other OS to test my machine. It's new and completely bare, I've never had problems installing in the past. But with the UEFI I can't seem to install properly and I've followed two guides online already.
[04:12] <Lowlymath> I need to run a reinstall CD from terminal.  Is there a command for that?  My pc won't recognize my keyboard until it's too late for menu selection
[04:12] <histo> NanaHaru: what version of ubuntu are you trying to use?
[04:13] <decci> histo: Sure
[04:13] <selena2013> nanaharu use the Remix cd / usb image
[04:13] <decci> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592228/
[04:13] <NanaHaru> histo : 12.10
[04:13] <selena2013> it has boot repairs for efi
[04:13] <histo> NanaHaru: 64bit?
[04:13] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : The linux secure img?
[04:13] <Corey> decci: Please stop spamming various channels with the same problem. :-)
[04:14] <decci> Corey: Ok sorry
[04:14] <NanaHaru> histo : Yes 64bit
[04:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: sorry, was away
[04:14] <rhenzar> What's the difference between Debian and Ubuntu? Could you consider Debian to be a user-friendly distro?
[04:14] <selena2013> yes there is a image call remix for efi boot
[04:14] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's ok
[04:14] <selena2013> nop Debian is harder to use
[04:14] <selena2013> ubuntu is easier
[04:15] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : I tried the secure remix img as well... it didn't want to work~ T.T
[04:15] <histo> decci: Well that error is useless. see what line 47 is in dataobject.php and try to figure out what it does. Also turn debugging on as the log suggests. You may get more assistance from a plesk channel
[04:15] <decci> histo: While I run Customer and Billing complete installation, I am unable to get it work
[04:15] <decci> histo: Thats binary file
[04:15] <histo> decci: /j ##plesk
[04:15] <decci> histo: And I have no idea what to chnage and what not to
[04:15] <histo> decci: ask in the ##plesk channel
[04:15] <decci> plesk IRC is pathetic
[04:15] <selena2013> nanaharu if you try to install in w8 machine ? or older machine ???
[04:15] <decci> histo: No one active there
[04:16] <Corey> decci: Doesn't Plesk charge you to use it?
[04:16] <Corey> You're paying for support, ask them.
[04:16] <Corey> And that php file is likely encrypted to avoid casual dissection.
[04:16] <decci> Corey: I am using free trial
[04:16] <histo> decci: then contact their support
[04:16] <Corey> decci: Even better, ask their sales apparatus.
[04:16] <histo> lol didn't know it was a paid app.
[04:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: anything with that?
[04:17] <Corey> histo: Yeah, I wound up running it at a web hosting shop I worked at.  It was obnoxious to get going. :-)
[04:17] <NanaHaru> selena2013 : it's custome build intel i7 ivy bridge, ASRock z77 extreme 4 w/UEFI (it doesn't say W8 ready, just W7), and a NVIDIA GTX 680 GFX card
[04:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 with changing root to boot?
[04:18] <histo> NanaHaru: should work..  Try your thumb drive on a different machien
[04:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes
[04:18] <NanaHaru> histo : My thumb drive seemed to work once, well it got further than the rest... but it spent about 2 hours on the ununtu loading screen...
[04:19] <Bray90820> i tried it appeared to do nothing
[04:19] <selena2013> oooo thats too much system i wish i had an i7
[04:19] <selena2013> i only have amd basic
[04:19] <histo> Lowlymath: you could try booting an iso from grub. If you just want to run the cd to run it you can use virtualization to do that.
[04:19] <NanaHaru> histo : You may be able to answere, but if I install ubuntu onto a HDD from a different computer using different specs, and then put it back into my machine now, would that work?
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: yes
[04:20] <Corey> Provided the initrd still works, yes.
[04:20] <NanaHaru> histo : thank you~ I shall try that~
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: assuming the other machine is efi
[04:20] <histo> NanaHaru: or you disable efi on your new machine
[04:21] <dsr> anyone know why lvchange -a n <LV> or vgchange -a n <VG> don't seem to do anything. the command runs with no errors, but after running lvscan, all the LVs are still active
[04:21] <rhenzar> It doesn't seem like the other Linux-related channels are active: going into an AP Computer Science course that teaches Java, what software (or distro if applicable) should I look at?
[04:21] <NanaHaru> histo : thank you~ I shall try that~?
[04:21] <yourimym1> morning 4om here guys'
[04:22] <histo> !best | rhenzar
[04:22] <NanaHaru> histo : how do I disable EFi?
[04:22] <selena2013> well we have 800 different distributions
[04:22] <selena2013> disable EFI at bios setup
[04:23] <selena2013> go to your machine bios setup at start up press the f1 or esc key
[04:23] <rhenzar> histo: I know, I know, just looking to see if anyone preferred anything that I should know about :D
[04:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: this is ice cream sandwitch
[04:23] <NanaHaru> is there a difference between EFI and UEFI?
[04:23] <histo> rhenzar: basically The only differences in the distros are their: Communities, default applications, package managers... They all can be built up from minimal systems to accomplish the same thing. You can program in java on any of them.
[04:23] <selena2013> well you are in the Ubuntu channel we suggest ubuntu
[04:23] <Bray90820> yes
[04:23] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 yes
[04:23] <Corey> rhenzar: The usual places are all active right now, not sure where you're looking.  But it's not really a distro specific question.
[04:23] <rhenzar> selena2013: I mainly meant software.
[04:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: I suggest Pinguy OS
[04:24] <rhenzar> Corey: Where should I look? I'm new to IRC, sorry!
[04:24] <histo> ohboy
[04:24] <Corey> rhenzar: ##linux may be a decent starting poing.
[04:24] <histo> rhenzar: you can program with any text editor. You can also use things like eclipse etc...
[04:25] <histo> Corey: no [R] is lurking
[04:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> rhenzar: codeblocks is a good ide for programming
[04:25] <Corey> histo: He doesn't scare me. :-)
[04:26] <rhenzar> I know that you can program with any number of text editors, etc., I was just wondering if there was any Linux -specific software that was particularly useful for this sort of thing. Thanks, though :P
[04:26] <rhenzar> histo: lurking?
[04:28] <NanaHaru> Can SATA disrupt the installation of ubuntu?
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: does it do Detecting adroid-x86 plus infinite dots?
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> NanaHaru: I would think not as I have it installed on my sata
[04:32] <connor__> I'm using a USB headset in Xubuntu and the volume up/down button attached to the cord is controlling the my external speakers volume but not my headsets volume. How do I fix this?
[04:40] <NanaHaru> SO I tried installing Ubuntu and I got to trying ubuntu without installing and basically it turned purple and started loading. But then white text came up and the bery bottom says "end trace"
[04:41] <Es0teric> how do i add a user to a group?
[04:41] <Es0teric> or a group to a user?
[04:41] <suhaib> Es0teric: gui or command line ?
[04:41] <NanaHaru> Command line
[04:41] <Es0teric> suhaib command line
[04:42] <dr_willis> hmm.. usermod perhaps?  i recall being carefull with  the commands or yoiu  can not add but sset the user to be in only  one groub by mistake
[04:42] <Es0teric> yeah, i need to add the user to the rvm group while staying in the other groups
[04:43] <littlebearz> Es0teric: usermod -G group1,group2 i think, double check
[04:43] <dr_willis> jot down the  groups they are in now.. first.  ;) just in case
[04:44] <Lowlymath> Still hoping to get a terminal command for running a reinstall cd (keyboard won't work during bootup, and my OS is broken)
[04:48] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: copy necessary files using cp and reimage it
[04:49] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:49] <Lowlymath> litterbearz: could you elaborate?  I am not fluent in terminal
[04:49] <Injigo> good evening.
[04:50] <lolcat89> I am taking a Unix class, will I be able to use Ubuntu in the fashion that Unix can be used? (e.g. will I be able to use the same commands, etc?) Forgive me, but I am a noob
[04:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: cp source target
[04:51] <dr_willis> bash should be the same lolcat89
[04:51] <selena2013> linux is a clone of unix but is not the same
[04:52] <lolcat89> bash means the command line's shell, right dr_willis?
[04:52] <dr_willis> id say  80%+ the same..  ;-) (
[04:52] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:52] <Injigo> does anyone have partition experience?
[04:52] <dr_willis> bash is one shell.
[04:52] <lolcat89> that is what comes with Ubuntu?
[04:52] <dr_willis> there are others
[04:52] <root___> hello?
[04:52] <dr_willis> !bash
[04:52] <root___> any one here?
[04:52] <Lowlymath> ntzmtthihu777: could you give me more info?  it's a windows reinstall cd in my primary dvd drive
[04:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolcat89: bash means bourn again shell, its a remake of bourn shell, additional features so you cant always do stuff in sh that you can in bash
[04:52] <Lowlymath> sorry for the stupid questions
[04:53] <dr_willis> heh. bash is the default in most cases
[04:53] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:53] <root___> anyone know why I can't upgrade to new version of ubuntu
[04:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: make it easy on yourself, type ntz then tab when talking to me
[04:53] <dr_willis> root___: not without some error messages
[04:54] <Injigo> so i used fixparts to realign some partitions in a live environment. now running gparted returns this error: http://dpaste.org/6jjoB/
[04:54] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: you need to turn you're BIOS using F10 or F12 keys on boot to set CD-ROM boot
[04:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: now what are you doing?
[04:54] <Lowlymath> littlebearz: I can't enter BIOS because my keyboard isn't light up until after the menu that lets you enter bios
[04:54] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:54] <dr_willis> loly
[04:55] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: BIOS is independent of operating system, try another USB slot or borrow a keyboard from friend
[04:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: can you partition during your windows boot?
[04:55] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: try a ps2 keyboard?
[04:55] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm not sure what to do with that cp source target command.  Am I supposed to replace source with the name of the drive?  as is I get cannot stat 'source': n such file or directory
[04:55] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: those are example names
[04:55] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: I was thinking you could CP the files from CDROM to dvd, but i realized you needed to reinstall
[04:56] <dr_willis> cp fromthisfile   tothisotherfile
[04:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: If I understand you you want to install ubuntu?
[04:56] <jk_> Lowlymath, I've had that problem with older hardware that doesn't recognize the USB keyboard until after the BIOS window is past; my solution is to find a PS/2 keyboard and plug it in!
[04:56] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm actually trying to reinstall windows from dvd but can't access bios
[04:56] <Lowlymath> jk_: I actually just tried going across the street to get a ps/2 but they don't have them
[04:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: well there's your problem right there! your pc doesnot want to go back to windows and its fighting you *chuckle*
[04:57]  * dr_willis has a dozen of them
[04:57] <Lowlymath> Was hoping there was a work around that would let me boot cd from terminal
[04:57] <littlebearz> Lowlymath: take out you're harddrive and goto a friend's house and install it there
[04:57] <Lowlymath> littlebearz: I don't have friends
[04:57] <root___> sorry,I am new to here...how to show my problem which i can't upgrade my ubuntu to new version
[04:57] <dr_willis> you can set grub2 to boot some iso files..
[04:57] <root___> ??
[04:58] <dr_willis> !upgrade > root___
[04:58] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I only think you can do linux based distros that way...
[04:58] <lolcat89> thanks for the help guys
[04:58] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777: never really tried it with windows. no idea
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: plus if you are gonna install from said iso over the partition where it currently is you have to toram it
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: and windows isos tend to be huge
[04:59] <dr_willis> #windows  may have ideas. or hit the junk stores for a ps2 keyboard
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> unless its winxp or earlier
[05:00] <Lowlymath> Maybe there is some way I could save myself the trouble of reinstalling?  I replaced the mobo and graphics card and can only get into the tty1 terminal
[05:00] <root___> need to learn more about linux, where should I begin with??
[05:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: ubuntuwiki is good
[05:00] <dr_willis> Lowlymath: you want to fix ubuntu or install windows?
[05:00] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[05:01] <root___> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[05:01] <dr_willis> !manual > root___
[05:01] <Lowlymath> Well I can't install windows because I don't have a ps2 on hand so I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to fix ubuntu
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> got a liveusb/cd?
[05:02] <dr_willis> root___: what os are you running now?
[05:02] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: if you are talking to me I can make one
[05:02] <jk_> Lowlymath, what's the problem with your ubuntu installation?
[05:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: yeah
[05:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> jk_: he can only get tty
[05:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lowlymath: try using startx at tty
[05:03] <root___> anyone  know about sound driver for Toshiba satellite C855 series for ubuntu
[05:04] <serbforce> Hello :)
[05:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: google likely does ;)
[05:04] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: (not starting - disabled in etc/default/open-arena-server) * Starting Op[ Ok ] dedicated server: openarena-server speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speec-dispatcher
[05:04] <jk_> ntzrmtthihu777, he might try using the grub editing capability to set "nomodeset" and be able to get into the GUI that way. I've had to do that on one VM I installaed recently...
[05:04] <Lowlymath> Everything else gets an ok message
[05:04] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777:  good idea, but I have been trying
[05:04] <root___> never get close
[05:05] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: google your specific sound card and release
[05:05] <faruk> anybody here got some good recommendations on partitioning my drive for linux? on windows i keep my documents/pictures/videos/etc. on a separate partition so i don't have to back anything up when i format to do a clean install, so i assume the equivalent of that in linux would be having separate / and /home partitions?
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience > lavolanta
[05:05] <root___> how can i figure out ntzrmtthihu777  ??
[05:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: yes, this is how I do it
[05:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: lspci should give you some info
[05:06] <faruk> do you have any suggestions on how much size i should allocate to /?
[05:06] <root___> Oh great
[05:06] <Lowlymath> ntzrmtthihu777: If I install Liveusb will I be able to do something with that from terminal?
[05:06] <lavolanta> ntzrmtthihu777: ok!
[05:06] <lavolanta> ubottu: thanks!
[05:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: I only use 16gb for my /root, as much swap as I need, and the rest as /home
[05:07] <faruk> oh wow 16gb? so do all your installed programs go in /home?
[05:07] <jk_> faruk, it depends on how much additional software you expect to install. I set up 40 GB on this box and have not used much at all...
[05:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: no, most of that info goes in /bin or /usr/bin in /, ubuntu is just that tiny
[05:08] <faruk> hmm
[05:08] <faruk> because on windows 7 i set up 60GB, and after a couple of years i'm down to like 2GB free lol
[05:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: and I'm using a remastered ubuntu with a 2gb iso
[05:08] <faruk> windows folder alone has grown to 25GB from all the multiple versions of files that it keeps
[05:09] <serbforce> i love the 13.04 !
[05:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: thats because win$ == fat * slow
[05:09] <faruk> lol
[05:09] <littlebearz> ntzrmtthihu777: that's not true if you can tune it
[05:10] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: it shows this
[05:10] <root___> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04)
[05:10] <faruk> i'm looking forward to the switch, but i wanna get it right, because i'm not even gonna dual boot :P
[05:10] <root___> i don't know what to do next ntzrmtthihu777
[05:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> littlebearz: talking about the general rule
[05:10] <jk_> faruk, just double-checked. I set up this box with 46 GB in / and still have almost 41 GB left after installing a bunch of stuff. Most software goes into /usr/bin but it's not nearly as bloated as most Windows software...
[05:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for I-) and ubuntu
[05:11] <root___> search for what ntzrmtthihu777 ??
[05:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: I mean I through ) in that line
[05:11] <faruk> thanks for checking jk_, i'm a bit confused though, /usr/bin is in a separate partition from /?
[05:11] <serbforce> Does anybody know how to add x-chat icon on the top panel
[05:11] <jk_> faruk, no, it's part of /
[05:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: its a subdirectory of /, you can have it as another partition if you like
[05:12] <faruk> i thought if i make 2 partitions, / and /home, / will contain everything other than /home
[05:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: what desktop environment you need
[05:12] <faruk> like if i install MATLAB, that's like 6GB alone
[05:12] <root___> sorry ntzrmtthihu777 I still do not understand
[05:12] <jk_> faruk, you are correct
 im on ubuntu 13.04 daily unity desktop
[05:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04) and your version of ubuntu
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: if you know you are gonna install huge software give / more then.
[05:13] <faruk> hmm okay
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: not a clue about 13.04 or unity
[05:13] <serbforce> okay :(
[05:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> serbforce: I'm a gnome2 12.04 man
[05:13] <faruk> so you'd say like 16GB for the OS itself, plus however much I estimate that I will need for the rest of the programs I will install?
[05:13] <serbforce> oh i see
[05:14] <serbforce> isnt gnome2 done for
[05:14] <serbforce> in terms of support
[05:14] <faruk> and just in case i run out of space, would it be weird to install stuff like games in /home?
[05:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: no, you don't *need* 16gb, that's just wiggle room. ubuntu only requires 4gb to install to
[05:14] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 sorry i am back now
[05:14] <RiXtEr> how do upstart scripts know to start... with systemv you could update-rc.d service defaults
[05:14] <faruk> oh okay
[05:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: you don't choose the install path, this is configured in the program itself
[05:15] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 and yes it does do detecting android with dots
[05:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: what kinda processor do you have
[05:15] <faruk> hmm i see
[05:15] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777:  my ubuntu is 10.10
[05:15] <faruk> thanks a lot for the info
[05:16] <siswa> halo
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> faruk: this is not windows where you can choose that sorta thing and scrag it up. linux has a pretty specific heirarchy of directories for files and programs
[05:16] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 Intel Atom N550 Processor
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: is that 64 or 32
[05:16] <RiXtEr> nevermind I figured it out.. was missing my symnlink
[05:16] <connor__> In the additional Drivers menu of Synaptic. The download for a proprietary nvidia driver is stuck at applying changes and I can't get it to work. Any ideas?
[05:16] <calwig> whats the easiest way *terminal. to recover the mbr record and boot from an ubuntu machine. The boot menu is necessary. USB must be inserted to allow to boot
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: search for that Intel thing and maverick
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i should note that id did work with the android version of grub
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 it's 64
[05:17] <root___> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:17] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 64 bit
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: and I should suggest you get a newer version of ubuntu
[05:17] <siswa> halooooo
[05:17] <raj> unfortunately it's come to the point where I need sound to work in ubuntu
[05:17] <raj> can someone please help me?
[05:17] <siswa> anugrahhhh
[05:17] <raj> I would greatly appreciate it
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: hmmmm....
[05:17] <siswa> berpulang
[05:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> siswa: what language?
[05:18] <siswa> chinese
[05:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> siswa: i think there is a chinese channel, one sec.
[05:18] <somsip> !zh | siswa
[05:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ubuntu-zh > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: thank you
[05:19] <siswa> halooooo semuanyaaaa
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> !zh > siswa
[05:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, the should configure ubottu to use the language of the ! for the "see my private message"
[05:20] <zamzam48> halooo
[05:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> zamzam48: how can we help you
[05:21] <zamzam48> nothing
[05:21] <selena2013> lol
[05:21] <zamzam48> lollll
[05:21] <root___> anyone know about connect one linux computer to another
[05:21] <zamzam48> nanti liga smasaaaaaa dukung x2
[05:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: how to you mean connect
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: don't tell me you are running as root
[05:22] <root___> root??
[05:22] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: what is root?
[05:22] <somsip> !root | root___
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: in that case you are likely not, lol
[05:23] <somsip> root___: hmm - maybe not the right message there...
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: I do ..
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: is it not good?
[05:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: why
[05:23] <root___> somsip: what do you mean?
[05:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: if you are and you don't know why then you shouldn't be doing it.
[05:23] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: really? How can i get root out?
[05:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: root is a user on everyone's pc, its what handles all the basic background stuff.
[05:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: its like your install's brain stem, handling heartbeats and such
[05:25] <dr_willis> we have to wonder how you  managed to login as root. there should  have been a initally  made user
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> now, when you installed ubuntu, did you create your own login?
[05:25] <root___> i just type sudo su dr_willis
[05:25] <root___> I did ntzrmtthihu777
[05:25] <dr_willis> root___:  and WHY did you feel the need to do that?
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> in that case exit will remove you from it
[05:25] <connor__> question: why is debian so much harder to use than ubuntu?
[05:25] <dr_willis> connor__:  its not really.
[05:26] <root___> i don't know dr_willis  i read in a book
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> connor__: ubuntu is supposed to be the "everyman
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> connor__: ubuntu is supposed to be the "everyman's linux"
[05:26] <dr_willis> root___:  time to log out  and login as your normal user. then irc as a normal user. not as root
[05:26] <connor__> installing video drivers and and such in debian is too much
[05:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: you should almost never ever ever run as sudo su unless you know exactly what you are doing
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> what is your default username?
[05:27] <dr_willis> actually you  shouldent use 'sudo su'   if you need a root shell. use sudo -i
[05:27] <root___> ok mate ntzrmtthihu777
[05:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: exactly what is the difference?
[05:27] <dr_willis> the enviroment settings for the most part
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I know of both, but I use sudo su because my fingers are already moving in that direction
[05:28] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  bad habbit.. break out  of  it.
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: that bad?
[05:28] <root___> how to get out ntzrmtthihu777
[05:28] <dr_willis> we constantly  see people in here with files in their home dir owned by root.. thats normally from them miss-sudoing
[05:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: how are you on irssi?
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, I am rather careful about that
[05:29] <raj> yesss, dr_willis
[05:29] <raj> hello sir
[05:29] <raj> I really need your help
[05:29] <raj> my sound isn't working
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | raj
[05:29] <dr_willis> i rarely  mess with sound issues. so dont know much  about  sound raj.
[05:29] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: just fine
[05:29] <raj> where would `pacmd` say that it's muted or something?
[05:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: no, I mean what irc program are you using?
[05:31] <calwig> whats the easiest way *terminal. to recover the mbr record and boot from an ubuntu machine. The boot menu is necessary. USB must be inserted to allow to boot
[05:31] <calwig> !grub
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> calwig: you can boot from usb using grub
[05:31] <root___> ntzrmtthihu777: irssi ntzrmtthihu777
[05:31] <calwig> ok
[05:31] <root___> why?
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: first off, *highfive*, second off so I can tell you what to do
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> you are gonna have to /quit irssi, then run exit, then start irssi again and reconnect to here
[05:32] <root___> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:32] <root___> see you in a min
[05:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> root___: I kinda figured it was irssi, because its the only irc client I can think of that would set your username to root in a reasonable fashion
[05:33] <hossein> Hi guys
[05:35] <arguser> How to get wifi on a HP 1000 Mini with Ubuntu 12.10?
[05:35] <SubCool> hey- need som ehelp please
[05:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> arguser: lspci will tell you your wifi card name, and get more info
[05:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | subcool
[05:36] <myo> hello ntzrmtthihu777
[05:36] <dr_willis> arguser:  the addational-driver tool may  say if you  need any extra drivers for your  system
[05:36] <myo> i am back
[05:36] <hossein> I am trying to open a link which can be opened in windows but not in ubuntu lucid. this is the link: http://gmplib.org/ and I want to click on "Download benchmark sources"
[05:36] <SubCool> not funny
[05:36] <TheLordOfTime> SubCool, also 100% true.
[05:36] <TheLordOfTime> SubCool, just ask what you want to ask, don't say "I need help" or similar
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello root, is that you myo?
[05:36] <SubCool> dr_willis - thanks for the help- but the bootcd didnt work
[05:36] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes my friend
[05:36] <SubCool> TheLordOfTime, been here- -- calm down
[05:36] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: it's me..
[05:36] <dr_willis> SubCool:  im not even sure of your  original issue.
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, now what was your original issue?
[05:37] <SubCool> grub
[05:37] <SubCool> dr_willis,
[05:37] <dr_willis> that narrows it down... but not much.
[05:37] <SubCool> i just reinstall kubuntu 12.04.1 and grub is ... not working
[05:37] <myo> 1st sound doesn't work 2nd can't upgrade ntzrmtthihu777
[05:37] <SubCool> when i boot- nothing pops up
[05:37] <raj> I had an issue with my settings
[05:37] <raj> fixed
[05:37] <raj> yay
[05:37] <raj> how can I control the volume with my keyboard volume rocker?
[05:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: you mean the in-ubuntu upgrade? like from lucid to natty?
[05:38] <myo> i have been trying googling the whole day, can't fine right one
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: there is a keyboard shortcuts option in the system settings
[05:38] <hossein> Hi ! can anyone help me please
[05:38] <raj> system settings ntzrmtthihu777 ?
[05:38] <raj> where's that?
[05:38] <SubCool> ihave used a liveusb and the bootable disc repair, - i keep coming up with close package managers
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: what version of ubuntu do you have
[05:38] <raj> it says "Enable multimedia keys" for Volti Preferences
[05:39] <SubCool> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub2
[05:39] <raj> how do I chcek my ubuntu version from command line again?
[05:39] <myo> i don't know what do you mean ntzrmtthihu777 ; what i mean is 10.10 to 12 or 11
[05:39] <SubCool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958832
[05:39] <hossein> I need to click on a link which should open a page to download a code but it does not work in ubuntu
[05:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  even the boot-repair live cd says that?
[05:39] <SubCool> im not really getting it
[05:39] <hossein> this is the link http://gmplib.org/
[05:39] <SubCool> dr_willis, ya
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: yeah, that is what I mean. i would not suggest doing it, it screws up too often.
[05:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  sounds liek it is checking for some newer version or somthing odd then.
[05:39] <hossein> and in the "Download benchmark sources" link
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | hossein
[05:40] <dr_willis> SubCool:  you can always reinstall grub the manual way via differnt command line commands.
[05:40] <hossein> ok regards
[05:40] <SubCool> dr_willis, thats what im looking at- om boy..
[05:41] <dr_willis> hossein:    wget ftp://ftp.gmplib.org/pub/gmp-5.1.1/gmp-5.1.1.tar.lz
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: what version are you trying to update to?
[05:41] <myo> ok ntzrmtthihu777 ; how about sound issue
[05:41] <XRacer> SubCool: You *did* make a rescue partition on another drive or flash eh?
[05:41] <myo> to 11.4 ntzrmtthihu777
[05:41] <dr_willis> SubCool:  you  may want to check askubuntu.com about your package manager/boot-repair issue.. ive never seen that message
[05:41] <myo> it's show
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: why not just jump to 12.04?
[05:41] <myo> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[05:41] <myo> , W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <myo> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:42] <hossein> when I click nothing happens
[05:42] <dr_willis> !natty
[05:42] <SubCool> dr_willis, i have - im on this page... its.. honeslty confusing
[05:42] <myo> how? ntzrmtthihu777
[05:42] <myo> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <myo> , W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: do you have a cd or usb-key?
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: we get that.
[05:42] <myo> usb-key??
[05:43] <dr_willis> natty repos have been moved to the archive servers i imagine myo  you  will need to fix your sources.list if you  want to upgrade it
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: like a flash drive
[05:43] <dr_willis> !eol > myo
[05:43] <myo> how dr_willis
[05:43] <myo> oh i do have ntzrmtthihu777
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, how big is it? 1gb+?
[05:43] <dr_willis> ubottu just sent you a message how myo .. personally  id do a clean reinstall...
[05:43] <raj> how do I get my multimedia keys to work dr_willis ?
[05:43] <myo> yes
[05:44] <myo> yes ntzrmtthihu777
[05:44] <dr_willis> raj:  no idea.  Mine work fine.
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I forget, but does your version of ubuntu have that menu in the top left?
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: like the windows start menu? or do you have that unity thingus
[05:45] <myo> menu?? ntzrmtthihu777  no
[05:45] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: the sample of ubuntu Applications Places System
[05:45] <myo> that's
[05:45] <myo> and firefox icon
[05:46] <zamzam48> halooooo
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: that's what I mean. click system, administration, startup disc creator
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> !spam > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:46] <zamzam48> ha spam?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> guess not
[05:46] <myo> ok ntzrmtthihu777
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> did you find it?
[05:46] <myo> !spam > ntzrmtthihu777
[05:47] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[05:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 any ideas
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: lawl XD
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I was not telling you to do that
[05:47] <myo> to do what ntzrmtthihu777 ??
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, should be a menu to chose 2 things, right?
[05:48] <myo> yes ntzrmtthihu777
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> good. first you need to download the ubuntu cd image from releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[05:49] <allen_> GOODBYE EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....E
[05:49] <rick_> Hi all, I want to examine memory usage in my linux system. I can use free to get the used/available memory. and use ps aux to get all RSS used by all user process. or use  pmap -d $pid to get the memory. But I don't know which one is more accurate if I wan't to know the distribution of the memory usage in the system
[05:49] <myo> ok
[05:49] <dandaman> hi all, im getting this "filesystem only has x mb left" message a bunch. I ran "du -hx --max-depth=1 /" on a bunch of directories and it looks like my /home/<myusername> folder is listed as 94gb despite it only having about 15gb of stuff in it, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> rick_: memory in cache is available for use, rmember that.
[05:50] <myo> and then ntzrmtthihu777
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: please type my name first so it highlights and I can notice it, I am in a few channels
[05:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: do you have a 32 bit or 64 bit computer
[05:51] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: ok..
[05:51] <SubCool> ok- i need help
[05:51] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  I don't know
[05:51] <SubCool> i just tried to re-install 12.04 - and now the install doesnt see my lvm.
[05:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: we get that, I (and likely others) do not have the answer to your problem.
[05:52] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks for that input
[05:52] <SubCool> ill make sure not to ask you next time
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: ok, press alt+f2 and then enter gnome-system-monitor
[05:52] <rick_> ntzrmtthihu777, I can use echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache to empty, but I can't find a way to sum all the process and mem used by kernel(if I can get it?) to make the value of sum equal to the real physical memory.
[05:52] <SubCool> If anyone is familiar with Grub2 - please assist..
[05:52] <SubCool> and LVM
[05:53] <rick_> Thus I don't know which one is suitable to estimate the memory used by a process
[05:53] <bean> rick_, free -m
[05:53] <bean> ?
[05:53] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  then?
[05:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: no need to be rude. it has been the same folk in this channel since you came on, and we have given it our best shots. how have you tryed searching the forums
[05:53] <rick_> The RSS field from ps or the private field from pmap -d $pid
[05:53] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, your one to talk about being rude
[05:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: on the first tab it should tell you if you are using a 64-bit or 32-bit system
[05:54] <dr_willis> i dont use lvm. and all i know about grub2 is covered in the grub2 wiki and forum pages.. and grub2 homepage
[05:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> SubCool: welcome to my ignore list.
[05:54] <SubCool> ntzrmtthihu777, if the all seeing, attention barely guru u r was paying attention- i listed the searches i have attended
[05:54] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  nothing tell me it just tell my Ubuntu and Hardware and System Status
[05:54]  * SubCool pouts for ntzrmtthihu777 loss
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> rick_: why do want to empty? that is not a good thing, it hinders processes ubuntu and other linux uses to keep your system running fast
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: what does it say on that tab
[05:55] <myo> clear
[05:56] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  it said  my Ubuntu and Hardware and System Status
[05:56] <ak5> hi, how can I get a list of mirrors and test them for speed? is there some kind of tool for that or manually?
[05:56] <myo> that is
[05:56] <ak5> (I need CLI tool)
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: and what are they?
[05:57] <yourimym11> morning from here guys
[05:57] <dandaman> can anyone help me with my issue, its causing me a lot of problems with the "running out of space box"
[05:57] <rick_> ntzrmtthihu777, Just want to analyze the usage of memory. To see the distribution of system/desktop related/personal develop process.
[05:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | dandaman
[05:57] <yourimym11> is there any way to mount my drives automatically  ?
[05:57] <somsip> ak5: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[05:57] <dandaman> ntzrmtthihu777: scroll up
[05:57] <leilei> hello everyone!!
[05:57] <dandaman> hi all, im getting this "filesystem only has x mb left" message a bunch. I ran "du -hx --max-depth=1 /" on a bunch of directories and it looks like my /home/<myusername> folder is listed as 94gb despite it only having about 15gb of stuff in it, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:58] <somsip> !fstab | yourimym11
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: yes, you can edit your fstab
[05:58] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  Release 10.10,kernel linux,gnome, memory ,processor 0 to 3, available disk space
[05:58] <dr_willis> dandaman:  sounds like you are not measureing your disk space properly  and most likly ogt sutff in hiden folders.
[05:58] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that is
[05:58] <arguser> sorry, back again
[05:58] <rick_> Once I know the distribution, I can decide to see If there is any process that takes too many memory and try to make it use less memory.
[05:58] <arguser> so
[05:58] <arguser> for an HP 1000 mini
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: there is more than that
[05:58] <dandaman> dr_willis: wouldn't du -hx --max-depth=1 / show hidden folders sizes?
[05:58] <arguser> to make wifi work on Ubuntu 12.10
[05:58] <dr_willis> dandaman:  theres some commands/aliass online that can show what dirs are using the most spaxce. time to start looking..  be sure to empty your trash also
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: tell you what, how much memory
[05:58] <arguser> how do i?
[05:59] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that's all mate, Memory 2.9
[05:59] <dr_willis> dandaman:   never noticed.. never tried.. not on a ubuntu  box now to test.
[05:59] <dandaman> dr_willis: trash is empty, can you give me a hint as to what to google
[05:59] <dr_willis> dandaman:  sort directorys by size in bash
[06:00] <dr_willis> dont forget that .gvfs is special also. ;)
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: says release 10.10 and what else
[06:00] <yourimym11> somsip: how to edit fstab ?
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: with a text editor, as root
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  beneath that Kernel Linux,GNOME
[06:01] <zamzam48> halo every body,where u from?
[06:01] <somsip> yourimym11: with a text editor. nano or vi in terminal, or gksudo gedit
[06:01] <arguser> anyone? How to make wifi work an HP 1000 mini with Ubuntu 12.10
[06:01] <dandaman> dr_willis: checked that as well :\
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  after all, Hardware
[06:01] <zamzam48> @all: where u from?
[06:01] <dr_willis> arguser:  ran that addational-drivers tool yet? its in a tab under software-sources tool
[06:01] <arguser> dr_willis: now ethernet mate
[06:01] <dr_willis> zamzam48:  you dont want 1000+ people just spammin you...
[06:01] <arguser> dr_willis: no ethernet
[06:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: you need to know 1. the uuid of the partitions you want to mount, 2. where you want to mount it, and that's about it
[06:01] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: down below Hardware; System Status
[06:02] <dsr> anyone know how to find a file's exact location on a hard disk?
[06:02] <ak5> somsip: thanks
[06:02] <zamzam48> ha? spaming?
[06:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: I mean on the same line as release
[06:02] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  that's all
[06:02] <dandaman> found it
[06:02] <dandaman> its this file .xsession-errors.old
[06:02] <dandaman> can i delete that?
[06:02] <myo> there is no release ntzrmtthihu777
[06:02] <yourimym11> somsip: ntzrmtthihu777 : i'd like to go from terminal , is there command to mount the whole harddisk paritions
[06:02] <zamzam48> woiiii
[06:02] <dr_willis> arguser:  if your wifi card needs extra drivers that tool should show you  and download them.
[06:02] <zamzam48> u know JKT48?
[06:02] <dr_willis> dandaman:  yes you  can
[06:02] <somsip> dsr: sudo find / -name {filename} works but will go through the whole drive. So locate {filename} can often be simpler
[06:02] <zamzam48> i like JKT48
[06:02] <dandaman> dr_willis: do you know what it is?
[06:03] <arguser> dr_willis: its more of a problem i guess
[06:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: you just told me that your machine said Realease 10.10
[06:03] <dr_willis> dandaman:  its an old .xsession errors file...
[06:03] <arguser> dr_willis: broadcom blacklisting and more
[06:03] <zamzam48> AKB48......................
[06:03] <somsip> yourimym11: you need to add entries to fstab - one for each drive. see the link on !fstab for information
[06:03] <dandaman> dr_willis: i dont know what xsession is :\
[06:03] <dr_willis> !broadcom
[06:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: man fstab gives you all the info you need
[06:03] <somsip> yourimym11: s/drive/partition
[06:03] <dr_willis> dandaman:  the GUI uses X.. so  its a log of errors from your desktip session
[06:03] <dandaman> ahh i see
[06:04] <zamzam48> hdhhjdhdsh
[06:04] <zamzam48> huhuuh
[06:04] <KUPANG> ZAM" KOYOK BRUTU
[06:04] <tomi> hai
[06:04] <zamzam48> dafuqqqq
[06:04] <dr_willis> zamzam48:  do you  have an actual ubuntu support question?
[06:04] <tomi> zam zam koyok brutu
[06:04] <somsip> zamzam48: stop now please
[06:04] <zamzam48> yes
[06:04] <KUPANG> I DONT HSVE MSNY
[06:04] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: downloaded already but cant use it :S
[06:05] <KUPANG> MANY
[06:05] <zamzam48> u know JKT48?
[06:05] <tomi> ubuntu is simple and nice
[06:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: downloaded what?
[06:05] <zamzam48> mad:engkok jam piro liga smasa?
[06:05] <yourimym11> mountmanager , searched for fstab in ubuntu software center
[06:05] <zamzam48> JKT4888888888888
[06:06] <zamzam48> oi oi oi oi aaaaaaaaaaaaaa yoziwalll
[06:06] <histo> !mount | yourimym11
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: fstab comes with all linux. open a terminal and type man fstab
[06:06] <histo> !fstab > yourimym11
[06:06] <somsip> !ops | zamzam48 continues to spam after being asked politely not to
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bye bye
[06:06] <elky> zamzam48, what are you trying to achieve?
[06:07] <histo> !troll
[06:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: does ubottu know that one?
[06:07] <elky> histo, no need for that
[06:07] <zamzam48> halooo
[06:07] <zamzam48> u know JKT48
[06:07] <elky> zamzam48, no. He's not here.
[06:08] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: He used to.
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: he keeps repeating the same again and again, and frequently types literal gibberish
[06:08] <histo> The trigger used to say something along the lines of not acknowledging them.
[06:08] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777:  histo http://pastebin.com/npTxXXT5
[06:08] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, i read the scrollback, thanks.
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: kk
[06:08] <zamzam48> JKT48 is sister group of AKB48,u know?
[06:09] <zamzam48> ahmad edannnn
[06:09] <Ben64> zamzam48: if you don't have an actual ubuntu support question, leave or be quiet
[06:09] <elky> zamzam48, no, that's not relevant to here. This is for tech support not talking about whatever group you're talking about.
[06:09] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777: i got to go
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: I said man fstab
[06:09] <myo> ntzrmtthihu777:  thank you for everything
[06:09] <zamzam48> what is this?
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> myo: np
[06:09] <KUPANG> hi
[06:10] <zamzam48> hai juga
[06:10] <histo> !feedthetroll
[06:10] <KUPANG> ngapain di sini? kamu pake ubuntu juga ya?
[06:10] <elky> KUPANG, english?
[06:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> KUPANG: what language?
[06:10] <KUPANG> grammar nazi
[06:10] <Ben64> Indonesian, probably the same guy
[06:10] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: is there easy way for this ?
[06:11] <siswa_> what gramar nazi?
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: not that I know. its actually pretty easy
[06:11] <Extreme> Hi everyone.
[06:11] <Ben64> oh, all same ip
[06:11] <elky> Ben64, same ident/ip yeah
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: idea for ubottu
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: how many do you need to automount?
[06:12] <Extreme> I'm having troubles with the "Show in Folder" option in both Chrome and Chromium. When I try to open the downloaded file, it's opened in my text-editor. Weird. Does anyone else have this problem?
[06:12] <JKT48> hal0o everybode,im backkkk
[06:12] <c_nick> i am using evolution as my default mail client .. whenever i send a mail .. the mail goes but does not come under Sent Folder which previously used to happen ..   i checked out http://www.fergytech.com/2008/06/evolution-summary-and-folder-mismatch-even-after-a-sync/ but whatever it says also does not work. My Evolution is 3.2.3
[06:12] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: 3 partitions
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: when you do the !language > someone thing, it asks them to notice ubottu's pm in english. if they are speaking another language that wont do any good, no?
[06:13] <one> test
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> return false
[06:13] <IdleOne> !test > one
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: where do you want them mounted?
[06:13] <Extreme> !test > ubottu
[06:13] <Extreme> lol
[06:14] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: or mount all of my partitions
[06:14] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, most can read enough english to figure that much out.
[06:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> elky: true, i suppose. but how hard would it be to have !zh > foo say it in chinese?
[06:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: where do you want it mounted?
[06:15] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: if you don't make it private, that will do the job
[06:15] <one> Keep getting rooted
[06:15] <elky> ntzrmtthihu777, probably would involve rewriting the bot completely
[06:15] <somsip> !zh | ntzrmtthihu777 for example
[06:15] <one> or should I say chrooted
[06:15] <histo> one: What?
[06:15] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: in home
[06:15] <elky> enough testing the bot here, please don't make the channel full of nonsense
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: yeah, I know about that, but perhaps they don't pay attention to when you do it |
[06:16] <yourimym11> home dir i mean not my home :D
[06:16] <one> histo: I keep getting chrooted
[06:16] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: there is only so much that can be done, and OT
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: not ot
[06:16] <Ben64> !details | one
[06:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: you still have not explained exactly what you are trying to achieve
[06:17] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: actually it is, ubottu is not an Ubuntu issue. ubottu is open source see /msg ubottu !bot , patches welcome :)
[06:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> IdleOne: not gonna argue, but a bot that gives ubuntu specific info seems like an ubuntu issue to me.
[06:19] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm not going to argue either, but you seem to see it wrong.
[06:19] <Tm_T> please move the bot discussion elsewhere from this support channel
[06:19] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: it is a channel management issue, not a distro issue.
[06:19]  * ntzrmtthihu777 dropped it
[06:19] <yourimym11> ntzrmtthihu777: for example when i open my pc and run rhythmbox , there's no files in library , so i open each drive manually from nutalies , and suddenlly music appear on library , after mount my partitions , i mean by mount here is to open it not to mount it like .iso image or something
[06:20] <Ben64> yourimym11: wait what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: ok, I get that. do you want this partition mounted over music?
[06:20] <histo> yourimym11: the partition gets mounted when you click on it in nautilus
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: a files on other partition issue, wants an automount for ease
[06:21] <histo> !fstab | yourimym11 if you want it mounted on boot follow this
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: yourimym11 want's to do avoid that, seen that already and does not understand it, so i am assisting
[06:21] <Extreme> I fixed the issue. It was xdg-open. sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gnome-open /usr/local/bin/xdg-open  did the job! :)
[06:21] <yourimym11> histo: yes , i want it to mount automatically
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: message me, you are just gonna keep getting !fstab at you in open irc
[06:22] <histo> yourimym11: That's what fstab is for. Telling linux how to handle hte filesystems on boot.
[06:22] <Ben64> should do support in the channel, not in pm
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: if everyone keeps throwing things not understood in channel can only hurt.
[06:22] <histo> yourimym11: what do you not understand about fstab?
[06:23] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777, its considered good support to do it in channel not in PM
[06:23] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: what if you give some terrible advice and nobody is there to say anything?
[06:23] <histo> yourimym11: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && gksu gedit /etc/fstab     make your relevant changes then sudo mount -a will mount all those systems you specify.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: Ben64: no expert am I, but automounting a partition is pretty simple.
[06:23] <cotcot> hello
[06:24] <histo> cotcot: hello
[06:24] <cotcot> i have trouble i tried to update my kernel now i have a lot of problem
[06:24] <cotcot> http://askubuntu.com/questions/264991/tried-to-install-a-kernel-now-i-have-mutliple-problems
[06:24] <cotcot> i ve described my problem here
[06:24] <c_nick> ok i got it to work i was goofing up big time.. i had "topic" in search field
[06:24] <c_nick> my bad :)
[06:24] <Ben64> cotcot: so uh... why did you try upgrading kernel?
[06:25] <cotcot> someone told me that with the latest my cpu temperature will be cooler
[06:25] <cotcot> i should have done some research before :(
[06:25] <cotcot> and i still have the windows mentality: always get the latest update
[06:25] <histo> cotcot: can you boot the old kernel from the grub menu?
[06:25] <Ben64> cotcot: as a general rule, you should only install stuff from the official repositories unless you've got a good reason
[06:25] <histo> cotcot: yeah get rid of the mentality. Don't fix what isn't broken.
[06:25] <cotcot> im still on my old kernel it didnt install correctly lol
[06:26] <histo> cotcot: okay what problems do you have with your old kernel?
[06:26] <Ben64> cotcot: what guide were you following, what commands did you do?
[06:26] <cotcot> read this histo http://askubuntu.com/questions/264991/tried-to-install-a-kernel-now-i-have-mutliple-problems
[06:26] <cotcot> i explained everything i tried to do it carefuly
[06:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: if it aint broke you don't know how to use it yet *chuckle*
[06:26] <cotcot> i used a script
[06:26] <cotcot> from a website
[06:26] <cotcot> upbuntu
[06:26] <cotcot> wait
[06:26] <Ben64> we'll need to see it
[06:27] <cotcot> http://www.upubuntu.com/2013/03/install-linux-kernel-382-in-ubuntulinux.html
[06:27] <cotcot> i followded that
[06:27] <cotcot> i managed to get ride of it
[06:27] <cotcot> now all i have left is things from the update manager
[06:27] <cotcot> i think i managed to get ride of the 3.8 using apt-purge
[06:28] <cotcot> but i cant get rid of the 3.5.25 when i try to use it
[06:28] <histo> cotcot: looks to me like that script just downloads debs from kernel.ubuntu.com and installs them.
[06:28] <cotcot> i tried to do broken dependecies thing in synaptic too
[06:28] <cotcot> yes
[06:28] <cotcot> thats what it does
[06:28] <cotcot> thats how my problems began
[06:29] <cotcot> 3.8 isnt a problem anymore
[06:29] <histo> !enter
[06:29] <cotcot> now its 3.5.25 that i tried to install via the update manager
[06:29] <Ben64> cotcot: could you pastebin "dpkg -l"
[06:29] <MrHacks> Something strange just happened...my screen just went from being 1200x1080 down to 800x600.  What the hell just happedn?
[06:29] <cotcot> yes
[06:29] <histo> cotcot: Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:29] <cotcot> 12.04
[06:30] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise
[06:30] <MrHacks> ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[06:30] <histo> cotcot: is there a reason you aren't running linux-image-generic?
[06:30] <Ben64> then why were you trying to get 3.5.0.25?
[06:30] <Ben64> oh wait, 12.04 does the new kernel stuff
[06:31] <histo> 12.04.2
[06:31] <cotcot> atm im on 3.5.17
[06:31] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal
[06:31] <cotcot> i just have broken dependencies that i cnat get ride of
[06:31] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise
[06:31] <dd_> hello. noob question. i have a webserver, my personal user will have a website folder. should i create a separate admin user with sudo privs, instead of using my personal user to manage the machine while also having a website folder?
[06:31] <histo> Ben64: can't he just install linux-meta-lts-quantal
[06:32] <histo> dd_: your personal user can't use sudo unless they invoke it.
[06:32] <MrHacks> nevermind. Used xrandr
[06:32] <newb> (windows host) what happens to the usb after using it to dual boot ubuntu? can it still be a functional usb for just storage or forever be a bootable drive?
[06:32] <ak5> can I update lucid to precise easily? I am using ubuntu-server
[06:32] <MrHacks> I don't know what the hell happened to cause my resoution to drop but whatever it was it was not cool.
[06:33] <histo> cotcot: dpkg -l | grep linux-meta-lts-quantal
[06:33] <dd_> histo: so in general do people usually have a user dedicated for admining the machine, or do they just give sudo to their user?
[06:33] <histo> !upgrade | ak5
[06:33] <Ben64> histo: i don't think thats a package name
[06:33] <cotcot> nothing happens hito
[06:33] <histo> dd_: default is sudo behavior is that way.
[06:33] <histo> cotcot: dpkg -l | grep image | pastebinit
[06:34] <rypervenche> dd_: The root user is for admin things.
[06:34] <histo> dd_: sorry default ubuntu behavior is that way. The user that installed ubuntu is added to the sudo group and has those rights
[06:34] <rypervenche> dd_: or your user with sudo privileges. Others aren't supposed to have sudo privileges.
[06:34] <SubCool> Ok- i dont get it, i REinstalled kubuntu. And now when it boots, it stops at Busybox v.1.18.5 with an initramfs -
[06:34] <SubCool> wth?
[06:34] <histo> dd_: I'm not sure I understand your concern? If someone hacks your server you mean?
[06:35] <histo> SubCool: any errors?
[06:35] <SubCool> none
[06:35] <SubCool> histo, that i know of
[06:35] <dd_> histo: well, to better word it, my webserver will have one user per website. should i keep the ubuntu user around to perform admin duties, so i don't need to give sudo to website users?
[06:36] <SubCool> histo, in dmes would it be at the top or bottom
[06:36] <histo> SubCool: were you playing with hard drives or in the bios recently
[06:36] <histo> SubCool: bottom
[06:36] <ak5> histo: so it seems there are no specific guides for 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts
[06:36] <rypervenche> dd_: Keep a user around, or have some way to access root.
[06:36] <Ben64> dd_: if the users don't need sudo, then theres no reason to give them access
[06:36] <SubCool> histo, harddrives
[06:36] <histo> dd_: don't give the other users sudo they don't need it.
[06:37] <histo> SubCool: What specifically were you doing with your hard drive?
[06:37] <histo> ak5: you just upgrade
[06:37] <histo> ak5: it will upgrade LTS to LTS
[06:37] <SubCool> histo, all i did was reinstall kubntu- but i tried to put grub on sda instead of sdb. After boot-erpair failed.. i just resintalled kubuntu AGAIN , this time to sdb - but.. here i am.
[06:37] <histo> SubCool: which disk is marked as bootable?
[06:38] <dd_> Ben64: is it fine to login as my admin user all the time, then if i need to do something as a website user, just su to that user? that way i only have one user that needs to/is able to ssh in?
[06:38] <SubCool> histo, i have no clue now.
[06:38] <histo> dd_: yes
[06:38] <histo> !sudo | dd_
[06:38] <histo> SubCool: boot a live cd
[06:38] <SubCool> k
[06:39] <ak5> histo: sorry i am on a headless server, do I just use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <one> its usually more compilcated
[06:39] <cotcot> well i cant find the solution im gonna go eat something
[06:39] <cotcot> thanks again
[06:39] <dd_> cool, thanks guys
[06:40] <ak5> one: I figured, I am used to rolling release and anything else baffles me
[06:40] <histo> ak5: did you see the link from ubottu ?
[06:40] <ak5> yes
[06:40] <histo> ak5: it explains the process ona  server right on that page
[06:40] <ak5> histo: only for certain upgrades, not my specific one
[06:41] <ak5> histo: for example From 10.04 LTS to 10.10
[06:41] <overjoyedpulp> i'm using 2.16 on ubuntu 12.04, and i cannot get any plugins installed. I tried using apt-get to install gnash, flash, and mozplugger. i've also tried manually copying the relevant *.so files to ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/plugins and still seamonkey doesn't recognize the plugins (it lists the files under [INVALID] in pluginreg.dat)
[06:41] <ak5> I need 10.04 to 12.04
[06:41] <Ben64> ak5: 10.04 goes straight to 12.04
[06:41] <ak5> Ben64: so I have been told. I am now looking for how I do that ^_^
[06:41] <overjoyedpulp> i forgot to mention it's 64-bit and ive tried using nspluginwrapper per the documentation on mozilla's website
[06:42] <Ben64> ak5: it's set up like that by default
[06:42] <one> what about 10.04.3
[06:42] <ak5> Ben64: you misunderstand, I don't know about ubuntu at all and I am trying to figure out how to start the upgrade processs
[06:42] <Ben64> overjoyedpulp: 2.16? anyway flashplayer is in the repos
[06:42] <histo> ak5: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[06:42] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:42] <histo> ak5: then do-release-upgrade
[06:43] <histo> ak5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[06:43] <overjoyedpulp> ben64: i know that, but seamonkey doesnt recognize it when i install it
[06:43] <histo> dr_willis: Yeah that trigger is stupid now
[06:43] <one> does the bot give checksums?
[06:43] <histo> dr_willis: well not the trigger the page on the wiki is.
[06:43] <histo> one: checksums on what?
[06:43] <dr_willis> i normally do clean installs.. seems fadter
[06:43] <one> histo: the iso's
[06:43] <dr_willis> faster
[06:44] <Ben64> overjoyedpulp: well seamonkey isn't in the repositories, so you're on your own : /
[06:44] <histo> dr_willis: upgrade is actually faster.
[06:44] <SunStar> clean install is the best way to go on any platform
[06:44] <histo> one: they are listed on the download page
[06:44] <histo> SunStar: That's not true
[06:44] <dr_willis> wasent for me last time... but it was during the release week...
[06:45] <ak5> histo: thanks a lot :)
[06:45] <SubCool> histo, having an issue with that- appears my usb isnt being seen
[06:45] <histo> SubCool: How did you just install kubuntu then?
[06:45] <SubCool> histo, with that usb drive.. - idk.. :/
[06:45] <ak5> histo: so this automatically changes my sources.list ?
[06:45] <histo> SubCool: Well that's not good. Possibly the drive going bad causing issues with files that were copied?
[06:46] <histo> ak5: yes
[06:46] <histo> ak5: not your custom entries if you have any though it will disable those temporarily
[06:46] <one> histo: i cant get to the download page because of my fascist firewall
[06:46] <ak5> histo: what if I only have custom entries :D
[06:46] <SubCool> histo, dont say that- :/
[06:46] <histo> one: let me see if I can pastebin a file
[06:46] <SunStar> darn firewalls. Always where they're not wanted! >_<
[06:47] <one> histo: pm is fine
[06:47] <one> pastbin is also a website
[06:47] <histo> one: P.S. that's what sshuttle is for.  You could forward all your network traffic to another box that has ssh running.
[06:47] <SubCool> histo, reinstalling now..
[06:47] <histo> one: which iso?
[06:48] <one> histo: 10.04.4
[06:48] <ak5> is it true that ubuntu is considering switching to rolling release model for non-LTS releases?
[06:48] <histo> one: desktop / server/ 32 bit or 64bit?
[06:49] <one> histo: desktop alternate i386 please use pm
[06:49] <histo> ak5: I haven't heard that. but every six months is pretty rolling release safely as it's going to get
[06:50] <ak5> histo: idk, I am coming from arch, just testing ubuntu for my servers, I might switch to that
[06:50] <morning> It seems I need help reinstalling grub2 (on Precise). I dropped my laptop, and now on boot I get the "grub rescue" prompt. From what I've seen online, I gather that "grub-cfg" is messed up. So now I've booted from a usb. Following directions from message #7 at ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t-1331720, I've done this: (1) mount/dev/sda1 /mnt. (Good.) (2) mount -bind/dev /mnt/dev. (Good.) (3) chroot /mnt. But here I get the response "segmentation fault." Th
[06:50] <morning> e next steps would be (4) install-grub /dev/sda and (5) update-grub2. But I'm over my head and don't want to proceed until I understand the message I've received. What should be my next step?
[06:50] <ak5> the vps I got came preinstalled with lucid which doesn't have php-fpm (not even as backport)
[06:50] <overjoyedpulp> ak5: i've heard the rolling release thign too
[06:50] <one> !kernel
[06:50] <ak5> overjoyedpulp: huh interesting
[06:50] <ak5> what about systemd
[06:51] <one> how do i see which kernel 10.04.4 has ?
[06:51] <ak5> are you guys going to jump on the systemd train?
[06:51] <one> !lucid
[06:52] <SubCool> histo;now my computer wont boot from my usb
[06:52] <histo> one: you release it's going to expire soon for desktop support right?
[06:52] <SubCool> histo isn that bios?
[06:52] <histo> SubCool: yes
[06:52] <one> histo: ive never used support anyway
[06:52] <histo> SubCool: has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:52] <histo> !info linux-image-generic lucid | one
[06:53] <SubCool> histo, so- the computer boots into ubuntu, gets kinda far- then bails out into busybox??
[06:53] <histo> one: isn't the md5sum file contained in the iso?
[06:53] <histo> SubCool: from usb?
[06:54] <one> histo: ok very god
[06:54] <one> *good
[06:54] <SubCool> histo, no- it boots off the HD-
[06:54] <histo> one: 598b48059bafa2e0314bce8a07a9ff1f
[06:54] <one> histo: what are the offical checksums please
[06:55] <histo> one: that's 10.04.4-alternate-i386.iso
[06:55] <histo> SubCool: You need to boot to livecd or usb to fix your system.
[06:56] <one> hi jasonjang
[06:56] <ak5> so no systemd?
[06:56] <SubCool> k- figured it out- its the usb
[06:56] <one> histo: thanks, i did ask for pm though
[06:57] <SubCool>  histo booting up- what would u like me to do once the computer boots
[06:57] <histo> SubCool: use gparted and see which disk is marked as bootable. Fix that or install grub to one or the other.
[06:58] <SubCool> histo, oh- thats pretty easy;. lol
[06:59] <histo> SubCool: most likely both disks are marked as bootable. Or something goofy.
[07:00] <SubCool> histo, after what i did- probably both'
[07:00] <SubCool> so- cant i just run grub2 update?
[07:00] <apb1963> I'm trying to do:  "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" it's returning with   "start: Job failed to start"  syslog has this contribution:  http://ix.io/4DN
[07:00] <histo> SubCool: open gparted on the live cd
[07:00] <SubCool> histo, my boots on a lvm... does that matter
[07:01] <histo> SubCool: see which drive has the boot flag enabled
[07:01] <SubCool> histo, waiting on it-
[07:01] <apb1963> Any ideas
[07:01] <apb1963> ?
[07:01] <histo> apb1963: sudo restart mysql
[07:03] <apb1963> restart: Unknown instance:
[07:04] <somsip> histo: sudo service restart mysql
[07:04] <morning> I'm getting a "grub rescue" prompt. I gather I need to reinstall grub2 on my boot disk (sda1). Can someone tell me how to do that while I'm running from a usb?
[07:04] <somsip> apb1963: sudo service restart mysql
[07:04] <apb1963> restart: unrecognized service
[07:04] <somsip> apb1963: sudo service mysql restart
[07:05] <somsip> apb1963: sorry - correcting my correction...
[07:05] <apb1963> stop: Unknown instance: start: Job failed to start
[07:06] <histo> somsip: restart blah works
[07:06] <somsip> apb1963: stop it first. Then start it. Post anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log
[07:06] <somsip> histo: really? woah - so it does. My apologies
[07:06] <SubCool> histo, sda was marked for boot- but i also have an lvm. so im installing the packages now.
[07:07] <pvl1> histo, did u compike mysql or install from repo
[07:07] <pvl1> oops
[07:07] <pvl1> apb1963, did you compile mysql or install from repo
[07:07] <pvl1> sorry histo
[07:08] <apb1963> repo I think, but I have to doublecheck
[07:09] <histo> SubCool: Is this a dualboot system?
[07:09] <apb1963> yah, repo
[07:09] <apb1963> do-over? :)
[07:09] <somsip> apb1963: mysqld can sometimes complain if the correct my.cnf entries are missing. Did you overwrite any existing cnf when you upgraded (or did you just install>)
[07:09] <pvl1> apb1963, can you try mysqld restart. rather sudo mysqld restart
[07:09] <apb1963> somsip: Yah
[07:10] <somsip> apb1963: Yeah to what? Install or upgraded? Overwritten cnf or kept old one?
[07:10] <apb1963> oh i didn't see the last part of your sentence... overwrite I think.
[07:11] <Aaron> somsip huh?
[07:11] <somsip> apb1963: k. If it's not going to break anything, you could try removing and reinstalling but it's a weak answer, I know
[07:11] <SubCool> histo, no- but it appears the lvm2 packages failed
[07:11] <pvl1> somsip, apb1963 or possibly just get a new cnf?
[07:11] <somsip> apb1963: eg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127264/cant-start-mysql-mysql-respawning-too-fast-stopped
[07:12] <somsip> apb1963: /var/log/mysql/error.log can be handy if you are logging errors
[07:13] <histo> SubCool: grub needs to be installed to the mbr of the bootable drive assuming you aren't using EFI
[07:13] <SubCool> histo, i think your right- my hd might be failing-  i keep getting disc erros and such
[07:13] <apb1963> doesn't exist... so I guess I'm not logging errors??
[07:13] <somsip> apb1963: I can't remember the default setting, but fair to assume it's disabled if you have nothing there.
[07:13] <histo> SubCool: depends are they IO errors?
[07:14] <histo> SubCool: also you can check smartmontools to see
[07:14] <SubCool> histo, no- but i keep getting these random crap outs.
[07:14] <SubCool> is that a package?
[07:14] <hossein> I am still not able to find the answer
[07:14] <hossein> It seams easy but it is not
[07:14] <somsip> apb1963: in /etc/my/my.cnf should have "log_error = /var/log/mysql/error.log" Might be worht adding to see if it gives more helpful output
[07:14] <hossein> I just want to click a link
[07:14] <hossein> the ubuntu does not let me to do
[07:15] <hossein> what is the reason/
[07:15] <SubCool> histo, nvm- install it now- or trying to
[07:15] <somsip> apb1963: but maybe this will b0rk if mysql is not starting up properly to whatever point it needs to start up to log errors....
[07:15] <hossein> this is the website: http://gmplib.org/
[07:16] <hossein> i should openthe download benckmark sources
[07:16] <apb1963> somsip: Seems to be divided up into sections... which section should I add it to?
[07:16] <somsip> apb1963: [mysqld]
[07:17] <apb1963> Not there.  There's a [mysqldump] and a [mysql]  should I create a new section?
[07:18] <somsip> apb1963: ummmm. There should be lots of mysqld entries. This might be your problem. Like I advised, a reinstall or as pvl1 suggested, get a virgin my.cnf from somewhere
[07:18] <somsip> apb1963: backup the current one first, natch
[07:19] <SubCool> histo, thanks- but im going to bed.. ill [ick this up later- :/
[07:20] <somsip> apb1963: I have [mysqldump[ and [mysql] but about 116 lines of [mysqld] and others above it. Looks like you cnf is quite messed up if these are missing
[07:20] <histo> SubCool: kk
[07:21] <apb1963> yes...  I think a virgin would be a good solution... where do I find a virgin?
[07:21] <somsip> apb1963: I suppose you'd have to go to a source package or unpack a deb. Any ideas pvl1? You suggested it...
[07:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> who got booted?
[07:22] <apb1963> don't any of you have an untarnished one?
[07:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> apb1963: what file?
[07:22] <apb1963> my.cnf
[07:22] <somsip> apb1963: what version of mysql
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> apb1963: what dir is that in
[07:23] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: /etc/mysql
[07:23] <apb1963> 5.6 I guess
[07:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> apb1963: I have never touched this file, here it is
[07:24] <apb1963> thank you
[07:24] <fetzy> Hi I'm new to ubuntu. Well Linux un general. I am installing it onto an old laptop I don't use anymore. I think the old OS was corrupted or something. I am using a USB stick to install it, and it seemed to be working, but now its been stuck at the same screen for a long time. Is there something wrong?
[07:25] <somsip> apb1963: guessing does not help. Run mysql -v
[07:25] <apb1963> thank you all :)
[07:25] <apb1963> can't
[07:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://pastebin.com/txRWzwTB
[07:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never even knew the file existed, until just now
[07:25] <apb1963> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[07:25] <somsip> apb1963: sorry - it's not running is it...
[07:25] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 any more info for me
[07:26] <somsip> apb1963: well, might be worth trying ntzrmtthihu777's file in case that helps.
[07:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: I honestly have no idea atm
[07:26]  * ntzrmtthihu777 hangs his head
[07:26] <Bray90820> is /dev/sda3 the same as hd0,2
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: oh no, lol
[07:27] <pvl1> somsip, cant find it atm
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hd starts at 0, but the other one starts at 1
[07:27] <pvl1> somsip, still needed?
[07:27] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: for grub1 it is, grub2 would be (hd0,3)
[07:27] <somsip> pvl1: np = ntzrmtthihu777 posted one that looks clean
[07:28] <pvl1> somsip, ok just making sure
[07:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> so you want hd0,3
[07:28] <Bray90820> well android is installed on /dev/sda3
[07:28] <Fuzzles> whats the current server version? 8.04?
[07:28] <Bray90820> so i woild want hd0,3
[07:28] <Bray90820> is that correct
[07:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: are you telling me we have been looking in the wrong partition?
[07:28] <Bray90820> i might
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: give it a shot and try :D
[07:29] <apb1963> Yup.  Seems to have done the trick
[07:29] <fetzy> Can anyone help me?
[07:29] <somsip> apb1963: mysql running now?
[07:29] <apb1963> Thank again you guys!
[07:29] <apb1963> Yes
[07:29] <Bray90820> what would /dev/sda3 be tho
[07:29] <somsip> apb1963: cool - nice pastebin ntzrmtthihu777!
[07:30] <apb1963> heh, I can't even check the version without providing a password.  Now that's security.  lol
[07:30] <apb1963> oh.  only 5.5
[07:30] <somsip> apb1963: here Server version: 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 (Ubuntu)
[07:30] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 what would /dev/sda3 br
[07:30] <Bray90820> be
[07:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: hd0,3
[07:31] <apb1963> Server version: 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 (Ubuntu)
[07:31] <Bray90820> ok it was correct
[07:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes, that is correct.
[07:31] <apb1963> oh no.  I'm out of date
[07:32] <fetzy> Please can someone help me?
[07:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | fetzy
[07:32] <digitalshankar> Hi Please help. I have mounted ecryptfs {Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecryptfs.wU7imHMu} but when i open, it saying i am not the owner. I am using live cd ubuntu.
[07:32] <fetzy> I asked the question already, but no one replied...
[07:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: shoot
[07:33] <fetzy> Hi I'm new to ubuntu. Well Linux un general. I am installing it onto an old laptop I don't use anymore. I think the old OS was corrupted or something. I am using a USB stick to install it, and it seemed to be working, but now its been stuck at the same screen for a long time. Is there something wrong?
[07:33] <Fuzzles> fetzy, someone will reply when they no the anser or see your question..... whats wrong?
[07:33] <Fuzzles> fetzy, is it stuck at installing?
[07:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: I asked for a repeat, I missed the question
[07:34] <antonio__> hey folks...
[07:34] <fetzy> yes it says it is creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of LVM VG ubuntu, LV root...
[07:34] <antonio__> Does anyone know of a program that can be used to keep someone from getting distracted from websites, etc?
[07:34] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, what from fetzy?
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: yeah
[07:35] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, Hi I'm new to ubuntu. Well Linux un general. I am installing it onto an old laptop I don't use anymore. I think the old OS was corrupted or something. I am using a USB stick to install it, and it seemed to be working, but now its been stuck at the same screen for a long time. Is there something wrong?
[07:35] <somsip> antonio__: explain more
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> xD lol, you don't need to repeat again.
[07:35] <antonio__> just found one http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/self-control-ubuntu
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> I saw that one.
[07:35] <antonio__> somsip: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/self-control-ubuntu
[07:35] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, oh my bad :P
[07:35] <ooboo> hello. question: isn't having NOPASSWD set for sudo just as bad as leaving the root user enabled?
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: you say it hangs?
[07:36] <digitalshankar> Hi Please help. I have mounted ecryptfs {Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecryptfs.wU7imHMu} but when i open, it saying i am not the owner. I am using live cd ubuntu.
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> ooboo: yes
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ooboo: no, because they cannot enter a password tht does not exist
[07:36] <histo> !firewall | antonio__
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> ^ that possibility too
[07:36] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 should it be hd0,3 or hd 0,3
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | aeon-ltd
[07:36] <ooboo> aeon-ltd: would using ssh key authentication make it ok?
[07:36] <antonio__> histo: I'm not interested in a firewall...I'm looking for a program to keep me on track
[07:36] <Fuzzles> this maybe a noobie question but is unity built on gnomeshell
[07:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> oops, wrong person
[07:37] <fetzy> It hasn't changed from this screen. I can move the mouse around, and it has the loading symbol moving in a circle, but it has stayed the same for probably half an hour now.
[07:37] <histo> antonio__: medication?
[07:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | digitalshankar
[07:37] <antonio__> haha..no
[07:37] <histo> !unity | Fuzzles
[07:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: how old is the machine?
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: unity is a compiz plugin
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: it runs on top of gnome3, I believe
[07:38] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks i wish they would mature it
[07:38] <fetzy> it is a dell latitude D610... i dont know how old it is
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: I wish they would get rid of it
[07:39] <antonio__> I just installed this self control program...cant seem to find it anywhere though
[07:39] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, dont you like it?
[07:39] <SubCool> histo, ok- im still up :/ - how do i fix this? gparted is up- lvm2 is up. there appears to be a boot on sda - but i cant view lvm with gparted . im trying to remmeber which program does it
[07:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: nope. I can't stand it. I always use gnome-shell
[07:39] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, im using it, its ok but i perfer kde
[07:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: hd0, no space
[07:40] <histo> SubCool: does sdb also have a boot flag on?
[07:40] <Bray90820> ok
[07:41] <SubCool> no
[07:41] <SubCool> histo, but - the lvm is
[07:41] <histo> SubCool: install grub to sda
[07:42] <yourimym11> thx for guys helped me
[07:42] <histo> SubCool: or make sdb bootable and install grub there
[07:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym11: no prob
[07:42] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, tbh i like most DEs apart from LXDE find it pointless
[07:42] <SubCool> histo, how?
[07:42] <histo> !grub2 | SubCool
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: I tested lubuntu and it is pretty nice, but its default application set is too far different to be worth my while re-customizing
[07:43] <SubCool> histo, well, idk- gparted doesnt show a sdb- but i know the lvm has something on it.. how do i read it
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: I now use gnome-fallback with docky
[07:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: what version of ubuntu are you installing
[07:44] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777,  find its too limited on old machines i use xfce lightweight but still a full desktop
[07:44] <ooboo> so am i fine to have NOPASSWD ALL set for my admin user if i am using ssh key authentication instead of password logins?
[07:44] <fetzy> the newest, 12.10 i guess
[07:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: really? I got started in ubuntu with a old slaptogether junkbox designed for winxp using default lucid, it worked just fine.
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: first off I would suggest 12.04.2, you get 5-year support without all the fail in quantal
[07:46] <fetzy> ok, I was just going to try it out to see how i liked it first, so that is why i decided to just go with 12.10
[07:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> fetzy: my brief experience with 12.10 was horrid.
[07:48] <fetzy> hmm ok. i will try that then, thank you for your help.
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a general dell support channel anywhere?
[07:48] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, true but now ubuntu uses unity its so heavy on resources its even more then KDE now specially that 4.10 has big performance boost
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: like I said, I use gnome-fallback, no unity
[07:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: you could think of it as gnubuntu
[07:49] <ak5> it asked me to change the root password for mysql when updating from lucid to precise no less than 3 times (??)
[07:50] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, i can switch to kubuntu and remove unity and gnome without issues adn reinstalling right program
[07:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: I think the root mysql password is not the same as the ubuntu root
[07:50] <ak5> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, i know. but why ask 3 times
[07:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: is that a statement or a question?
[07:50] <somsip> ak5: you're doing a long upgrade process. Just go with it.
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: ok lol
[07:51] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, question
[07:51] <ak5> somsip: is there some logic hidden there
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: I belive so, yes
[07:51] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, ok ill give it a try
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: in ubuntu there is a certain timeout for sudo, 15 min default, maybe mysql has the same thing
[07:52] <somsip> ak5: just an encouragement to not worry about things you cannot affect
[07:52] <ak5> somsip: should I report a bug?
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fuzzles: do not remove unity and gnome untill you are sure kde works fine
[07:52] <ak5> it's kinda stupid to reproduce, but... it is a bug, right?
[07:52] <somsip> ak5: is it broken?
[07:52] <digitalshankar> Hi please help. I have mounted Ecryptfs in tmp directory using Ubuntu Live CD but when i open, it saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ecryptfs" I am unable to open it..... any other way to open it????
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | digitalshankar
[07:52] <ak5> somsip: not per se
[07:52] <ak5> ... and it asked me again
[07:53] <somsip> ak5: I would encourage you to complete the upgrade process. Just go with it
[07:53] <t-mart> digitalshankar: are you doing whatever you're doing as root?
[07:53] <ak5> ok this time i am going to change it instead of "keeping the old password if I leave it blank"
[07:53] <countley> can someone tell me why my wireless works but i cant see wlan0 when i ifconfig
[07:53] <digitalshankar>  t-mart:  how to do it as root as it is a live cd....
[07:54] <yourimym1> ntzrmtthihu777: hey back i need simple instruction to mount specifc folder insted the whole parition  what parameters to change in the fstab file ?
[07:54] <ak5> somsip: also, why does ubuntu-server have wireless-tools/wpasupplicant/etc by default?
[07:54] <Fuzzles> ntzrmtthihu777, ok i wont ill come back if all is well
[07:54] <somsip> ak5: dunno
[07:54] <t-mart> digitalshankar: sudo <command>
[07:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym1: not doable.
[07:55] <yourimym1> umm
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: it may not be wlan0, my default wifi card on my machine is labeled as eth2
[07:56] <digitalshankar>  t-mart: i did enter this command : sudo cd /tmp/ecryptfs.wU7imHMu   and it replied : sudo: cd: command not found
[07:56] <countley> ntzrmtthihu777: yeh i got eth2 aswell but i cant put it into monitor mode help
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: monitor mode? are using backtrack or something?
[07:57] <antonio__> I'm trying to find out how to install the self restraint program here http://parker.kuivi.la/projects/selfrestraint
[07:57] <countley> no ubuntu 12.0.4
[07:57] <t-mart> digitalshankar: do you really need what you encrypted in there?
[07:58] <t-mart> digitalshankar: is the ecryptfs "file" on the livecd or on an installed ubuntu?
[07:59] <rdz> hi all. is there  a way to mount a cifs share as a normal user in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:00] <iceroot> rdz: use for example nautilus to access the share or "connect to server"
[08:01] <countley> ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: man mount (--bind)
[08:01] <iceroot> rdz: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459182
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: can you get online?
[08:02] <countley> yeh
[08:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: then why exactly do you need monitor mode?
[08:03] <somsip> yourimym1: you could work around by mounting the whole partition somewhere, then creating a symlink to the folder you want
[08:03] <countley> airodump-ng
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: I'm just curious, being a year old backtrack user makes me think dat way.
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: basically you mount the whole partition at /somewhere, then /etc/fstab "/somewhere/mydir /newmountpoint none bind 0 0 "
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: why do you need airodump-ng
[08:03] <digitalshankar> t-mart:  the ecryptfs is in hard drive which i messed up by installing differenet desktop manager now it's not booting so i am trying to recover my data.
[08:03] <countley> i normaly use backtrack but i could get the drivers for my wireless
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: you should not use the same pass for different partitions on the same hdd
[08:04] <t-mart> digitalshankar: so, when you try to boot the messed up partition, do you get a command line?
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> countley: I just fail to see the point in useing the aircrack-ng suite on anything but backtrack
[08:05] <SubCool> ok - im a lil confused. - i need to install system-config-lvm - but 0-- its not listing ??
[08:05] <IzzoDizzo> has anybody managed to get the nvidia drivers working while using EFI on a macbook?
[08:05] <yourimym1> somsip: TakeItEZ: i've mounted the whole partition already , , but what about the second step u saaid
[08:05] <yourimym1> somsip tell me more about symlink to the folder how can that be done
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> yourimym1: symlink is like a shortcut
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: "same pass"?
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, the 0 0 at the end
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> pass 0 dump 0
[08:06] <SubCool> histo,  - since u've been around..
[08:06] <calwig> this really is strange
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> have a look at man fstab, I'm out for a bit
[08:06] <SubCool> histo, why isnt this package listing?
[08:07] <calwig> I just formatted a USB. Wrote a Windows ISO and it boots to a grub menu. How is that possible? I just formatted it before that, and put ubuntustudio and it booted. And previoius to that Vista, and it booted. Help
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: you want to mount some dir from the partitio mounted at a specific place, add an fstab-entry like "/somewhere/mydir /newmountpoint none bind 0 0 "
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: you should use uuids, not paths
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: what he wants is a certain directory inside another partition mounted somewhere.
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: your idea about symlinks is what he needs.
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: bind-mounts don#t need any pass/dump entries, therefor 0
[08:09] <yourimym1> so :) what should i do !
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: do you even know what bind-mount is?
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: yes, although maybe not in technical terms. along the lines of what happens when you set up a separate /home from the start.
[08:10] <digitalshankar> Solution found for my question!!! The answer was "gksudo nautilus"
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> digitalshankar: a root nautilus, yeah that would do it.
[08:11] <dekan> digitalshankar Yes, you will access to files as root.
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: to get it clear: you already have mounted something at /media/xxx and want /media/xxx/yyy to be mounted at /home/you/data?
[08:11] <calwig> !dd
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> get outta my laboratory
[08:12] <digitalshankar> A friend named Andy Woodhead gave this answer he also Support ubuntu in this channel.
[08:12] <yourimym1> TakeItEZ: yesbut certain folder only want to mount it \
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: fstab: "/media/xxx/yyy /home/you/data none bind 0 0 "
[08:13] <f3-02> hy all
[08:13] <SunStar> digitalshankar, be mindful of ownership and permissions when messing with files and folders
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> yourimym1: but you always have to mount the whole filesystem before this can be done, you cannot just mount one dir
[08:14] <yourimym1> thx got it
[08:14] <terraltech> Hi all
[08:14] <f3-04> Kurva anyád
[08:14] <TheCsaba> szevaa
[08:14] <TakeItEZ> ntzrmtthihu777: just say "no"
[08:14] <f3-02> whats up bitch?
[08:14] <f3-10_> hey
[08:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: to drugs? damn right
[08:14] <f3-04> A Mogyi egy nindzsa
[08:14] <dekan> Guys get out.
[08:14] <f3-10_> nope
[08:14] <f3-02> szíííd ki mogyi :D
[08:14] <f3-10_> nincs itt a Mogyi
[08:14] <f3-02> hun van?
[08:14] <helmut_> hi
[08:15] <dekan> f3-05 f3-02 What is wrong with you guys?
[08:15] <f3-02> hi
[08:15] <f3-10_> anyátok
[08:15] <dekan> f3-04 f3-02
[08:15] <f3-10_> we are high as fuck
[08:15] <f3-04> Na ki van itt? Soni itt vagy?
[08:15] <f3-18> Háj
[08:15] <f3-10_> and homeless
[08:15] <TheCsaba> ejj ejj
[08:15] <somsip> !ops | trolls
[08:15] <aegn17> gjljgl
[08:15] <f3-03_> mivanmáááágyöngyösön
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> dahell is this troll's night out?
[08:15] <aegn17> Mi van gyökerek ? :D
[08:16] <f3-19> buzi aki ide ír
[08:16] <TheCsaba> vazzeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:16]  * SunStar reports the ops for flooding  XD
[08:16] <IdleOne> yeah, that was less noisy then I was hoping :/
[08:16] <IdleOne> err more noisy that is
[08:16] <Flannel> SunStar: It's not flooding, it's whac-a-mole :P
[08:16] <somsip> IdleOne: they looked like they up for havoc, so I had to shout...
[08:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> TakeItEZ: now mister mount-master, I got a question for you
[08:16] <elky> IdleOne, you only needed to op yourself once :P
[08:17] <ak5> how do I specify that I need x86_64 arch not i386, apt-get update is getting both lists and is taking forever (I am in China and the mirrors here suck hard)
[08:17] <elky> Flannel, i much prefer guac-a-mole
[08:17] <ak5> can I add amd64 somewhere in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:17] <countley> i know but this is the only liux that recognises my drivers
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: 你好
[08:18] <ak5> ntzrmtthihu777: right back at ya, but that doesn't solve my problem
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol.
[08:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: you are using x64, but some programs are only 32 bit so you would need them
[08:20] <ak5> so how does it handle multilib?
[08:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: I have both the 64 and 32 bit libs on my machine for compatability on some things
[08:21] <wayne__> I love ubuntu
[08:21] <ak5> there are precious few things on a server (actually none that come to mind) that need to be 32 bit
[08:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> wayne__: as do I
[08:22] <wayne__> I'm running Linux ubuntu inside windows 7.  And its pretty awesome
[08:22] <ak5> things like skype or so might still only have a 32bit version... but all daemons I can think of exist as 64bit bins
[08:22] <wayne__> I have an AMD bulldozer, 16 GBS of gskill ram, 800 watt psu.  And a GTX 660 Ti
[08:23] <somsip> wayne__: and you support question is...??
[08:23] <wayne__> lol I was looking for a heck yeah thats sweet reply
[08:23] <somsip> wayne__: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be better for you. this is the support channel
[08:23] <ak5> !ot | wayne__
[08:24] <wayne__> Okay thank you
[08:24] <somsip> wayne__: cool.
[08:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: very little (read: none) server experience on my part, but would not the user, if they are running 32bit, need them?
[08:27] <ak5> ntzrmtthihu777: short answer: no
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm jealous of his machine, lol
[08:27] <ak5> !ot | ntzrmtthihu777
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> ak5: look we all cut witty jabs now and then and no one stays completely ot in here. its not liek I was flooding repeated bs
[08:28] <user_23415> Will I be able to install and use the Mir display server on ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_23415: what is mir
[08:28] <ak5> well with that unwitty retort you are starting to
[08:29] <user_23415> ntzrmtthihu777: the new display server from Canonical. Probably aimed at ubuntu 14.04.
[08:29] <rdz> iceroot, many thanks!
[08:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_23415: fascinating
[08:30] <aaas> ubuntu 12.10  is restarting periodically  http://i.imgur.com/sSM6kXX.png  ... swapped ram with another computer, cpu temps seem ok: http://i.imgur.com/5FRmkVq.png  ... if there's nothing in ubuntu that would periodically cause a restart, I'm thinking it's the PSU
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_23415: in hopes of not sounding like a total luddite, exactly what does it do.
[08:30] <carinaet> Hello, is it alright if I ask a long question?
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> aaas: simple fix: quantal bites everyone where the sun don't shine. get onto precise lts
[08:30] <IzzoDizzo> !ask|carinaet
[08:30] <dr_willis> go for it. ;) but  keep it short. ;P
[08:31] <dr_willis> Ive had very few issues  with 12.10
[08:31] <aaas> ntzrmtthihu777 can you think of a reason why it would restart on it's own...baring a actual reason, im not switching
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: but you're the doctah
[08:31] <dr_willis> im basically running defaults out of the box also
[08:31] <user_23415> ntzrmtthihu777: mir display server promises to be the successor of x.org display server and to provide better security, performance and easier development (I guess).
[08:32] <dr_willis> user_23415:  dont forget 'convergance'
[08:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> user_23415: this frightens me. unity shoulda been the next big thing but it bites.
[08:32] <user_23415> dr_willis: +1 right at the point
[08:32] <rdz> iceroot, the option 'users' was what i've been looking for so long time..  now i can mount as normal user
[08:33] <ak5> how do I let dameon start at boot using this upstart thingy?
[08:33] <iceroot> rdz: :)
[08:33] <dr_willis> ak5:  normally they  have a /etc/init/whatever.conf file to controll it launching
[08:33] <dr_willis> ak5:  the upstart cookbook website gives lots of details
[08:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: this is infuriating.
[08:33] <ak5> ok1~~
[08:34] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i dont know what you  are going on about.
[08:34] <TakeItEZ> ak5: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[08:34] <Sliss> why is flash not working on my firefox on ubuntu for a long time? (ff19 + flash-aid = still no flash)
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> remember the iso discussion the other night?
[08:34] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  im lucky to rember my own name half the time. ;)
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Sliss: why not just use flashplugin-installer
[08:34] <carinaet> Hi, if I unplug the storage drives in my PC, then install Ubuntu from a USB to another USB, then plug the windows drives back.Now, my question are: Does that leave the Windows drives untouched? How about the Bios? If I boot to Ubuntu from USB drive, would it try to do something to my Windows Drive or Bios? If I unplug Ubuntu USB, is the computer going to run like nothing happened? Thank you very much!
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> carinaet: no need to unplug the windows drives, they will not be touched unless you tell them to be.
[08:35] <dr_willis> carinaet:  make sure you install grub to the USB drive.. and not the windows drive.. theres a dialog/pulldown somewhere.. it should default to the usb.. but you  want to double check
[08:35] <Sliss> flash-aid is using flashplugin-installer if you didnt know ntzrmtthihu777
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> carinaet: in fact if you set bios to boot the usb stick before the hdd, you can choose when to boot the usb based on whether its plugged in or not
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Sliss: is that so. seems to be another layer of annoyance to me, it came default on my pinguy os's firefox, i just got rid of it and installed fp-ins. from apt-get
[08:37] <W8uiE5> suddenly my pc crashes, when i start firefox: (firefox:2502): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so) initialization check failed: GLib version too old (micro mismatch). already tried apt-get update/upgrade and aptitude -f install under kubuntu 10.04. what can i do?
[08:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | W8uiE5
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> W8uiE5: in other words you are a month shy of being dead in the water, why not upgrade and save yourself some grief?
[08:39] <ak5> dr_willis: there has got to be a better way than to write my own configs for nginx and php-fpm
[08:39] <ak5> this *is* ubuntu, right :D
[08:39] <dr_willis> ak5:  im not even sure what you  are doing..
[08:39] <ak5> dr_willis: I want to start nginx at boot
[08:39] <Sliss> I tried all sorts of solutions, in fact reinstalling again, but after every attempt (from when adobe is developing only for chrome) I have no flash in ff
[08:39] <janderson91z> hey, i had a question that maybe someone here can answer. how can i check and see what version of the amd proprietary driver is in the repo?
[08:40] <dr_willis> ak5:  ngix from the repos sould come with a upstart conf file.
[08:40] <ak5> hm
[08:40] <dr_willis> !find ngix.conf
[08:40] <dr_willis> may  be called somthing else..
[08:40] <iceroot> janderson91z: apt-cache show packagename
[08:40] <somsip> ak5: seems to support this point - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: why is ubottu tuned to quantal when the current lts is precise?
[08:40] <W8uiE5> ok, thanks
[08:41] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  because quantal is the latest release.. how about the other lts releases that are stull supported?
[08:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: touche
[08:41] <dr_willis> i just wish the bot tool #'s instead of names i can never spell right
[08:42] <carinaet> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the clarity and tip. dr_willis: thanks for pointing out that feature. -PC isn't mine. Thanks for giving me the confidence to push through with the plan
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, nice idea eh? it is open source, do it yerself :D hell with it I'll do it
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> carinaet: what did I tip you with, again?
[08:42] <dr_willis> i think the whole cutesy animal nameing kjust causes more confusuin.
[08:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I need womething to occupy my geek
[08:43] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  port the C64 game 'wavy navy' over to Linux. ;)
[08:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: what was that command to find about the bot and such IdleOne told me earlier?
[08:44] <dr_willis> !bot
[08:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I like old games but not that old, lol
[08:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: thankya
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> and what's wrong with old games...  im working on the elder scrolls chapter 1: the arena.. in dosbox at the moment..
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> free download from the elder scrolls website btw
[08:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: nothing wrong with old games, I am doing a re-work of one right now under rpg maker xp
[08:45] <carinaet> ntzrmtthihu777: you said it wouldn't matter if the windows drive are connected. and, setting usb with a higher boot priority.
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> ah i see
[08:46] <Akiva-Mobile> I am not sure if this a bug, so I would like to ask for some help before I report it
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> carinaet: ah gotcha. Sorry, too many ppl I'm shooting tips at lol
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: shoot
[08:46] <Akiva-Mobile> Can anyone help me in nautilus in adding a bookmark?
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: easily done
[08:46] <l057c0d3r> drag and drop
[08:46] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: Not working for me
[08:46] <Akiva-Mobile> nope
[08:47] <Akiva-Mobile> drag and drop is not working in nautilus
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: I have dropbox, ubuntu one, and the playonlinux virtual drives bookmarked
[08:47] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: It stopped working for me.
[08:47] <carinaet> ok will try it now. thanks again.
[08:47] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: Even using the menus does not work.
[08:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: enter the directory in nautilus, hit ctrl+d
[08:48] <Akiva-Mobile> Menu>add bookmark >>> all it did was add an old bookmark that I removed, but then would not work again.
[08:48] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: ill give it a shot
[08:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: and if that does not do it you can manually edit a config file, let me find it again
[08:49] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  you havent ran nautilus as root lately have you? ive seen where some user config files get owned by root. and thus the user cant change them
[08:49] <janos__> sziasztok szép jó reggelt
[08:49] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: Yes I had done that. I hate using chmod :P
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> janos__: svedisch?
[08:50] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  id check ownership of the  files in your home.  ;)
[08:50] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: Well that must be it then; that makes the most sense. Gah, you must be a level 4 users
[08:50] <Akiva-Mobile> user*
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: you're too kind
[08:51] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: ntzrmtthihu777 >> now assuming this is the case; should this be reported as a bug?
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there an opposite of /ignore in irc?
[08:52] <SunStar> favorites
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: I don't know, if it was done without your mis-actions, then yes. if you screwed up, then no. sorry if its blunt/harsh
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> SunStar: perhaps opposite is wrong term, along the lines of making them deaf to you
[08:53] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: well, sudo nautilus is just my mickey mouse trick to avoid remembering complex chmod flags. I wish it warned me about my config file though.
[08:53] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: unignore, same syntax I believe
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: nope, you missed my latest query
[08:54] <Akiva-Mobile> frankly, I am still bugged that you still can not change permissions of files easily in nautilus with a root password.
[08:54] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: you want to set yourself as ignored by them?
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: yes! not that I wish to do it, but wonder if its doable
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: check ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[08:55] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  i recall seeing some nautilus scripts for that.
[08:55] <l057c0d3r> 0_o  so you can talk about them without them seeing.. how rude
[08:55] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: not something I'm aware of
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: xD not gonna, just wondering
[08:55] <l057c0d3r> heh..
[08:55] <dr_willis> sudo nautilus is bad... gksudo nautilus i  think will avoide the problems
[08:55] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: I am just surprised it still exists. I was considering on building a chmod gui
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: chmod is pretty easy, actually.
[08:56] <Akiva-Mobile> and that was 4 years ago
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: an excellent point, do not use sudo for graphical applications, ever.
[08:56] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: I used to know how to use it, but I always had to double check my flags
[08:56] <dr_willis> i got a little chmod app on my phone. ;) or i just use mc...
[08:56] <SunStar> when using gksudo nautilus be mindful of permissions and ownership
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: it exists already. right-click properties, permissions.
[08:56] <Akiva-Mobile> and some flags are complex.
[08:57] <dr_willis> I belive theres a nautilus setting to show advanced chown/chmod options
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: you are talking about the number ones?
[08:57] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: well usergroups are not exactly straightforward
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: agreed.
[08:58] <Akiva-Mobile> as long as I have been on linux, I have never bothered to research them.
[08:58] <zetheroo> how do you get the nvidia-current driver to actually become active?
[08:58] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, if not a bug report, maybe a brainstorm.
[08:59] <zetheroo> seems like just installing it is useless ... as the Mesa driver is still being used
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: I wish they had better customizability for ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, lol. that is my one wish atm.
[09:00] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: lol
[09:00] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  i  install, then reboot. then run nvidia-settings to setup  the xorg,conf how i  want. then restart the X server
[09:00] <Akiva-Mobile> ntzrmtthihu777: Wait, I am on ubuntu brainstorm, brb
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Akiva-Mobile: srsly, I hate that I can't get my dropbox in the same place as my other ~/ dirs
[09:01] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 so apperently i need to move my android partition to /
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: erm, when you boot android your android partition become /
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> and when you do ubuntu the same occurs
[09:01] <Bray90820> it does?
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yeah, any multiboot does, I believe.
[09:02] <Bray90820> hum i have something to show you
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to change the gnome-fallback menu setup from applications | places to applications | places | system like in lucid?
[09:04] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LvuEYL3E
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: oh yes, this could work, methinks.
[09:05] <Bray90820> i'm not really 100% sure what that even means tho
[09:05] <Bray90820> but i wanna try it just to see
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: you would not be moving the android partition to /, but instead emptying its contents into the / of sda1
[09:05] <Bray90820> AHH
[09:05] <Bray90820> i'll also make a backup :)
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: but for you, since your ubuntu / is sda1, would use hd0,1
[09:06] <Bray90820> yes
[09:06] <Bray90820> the mounting point would also change
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> and i am not sure if it would matter, but can you place that } curly bracket on its own line?
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> it bugs me XD
[09:12] <dr_willis> hmmm
[09:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: :?
[09:13] <dr_willis> its quiet.... tooo quiet...
[09:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: any thoughts on my question?
[09:13] <dr_willis> which one?
[09:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> about the threefold division of the old lucid menu vs the two menu system of gnome-fallback in precise
[09:14] <dr_willis> i  dont use fallback. so never even noticed
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> I *really* hate having to dredge through the apps menu for what was (and should be) in the separate system menu
[09:15] <dr_willis> theres some alternative indicator applet menu apps that give sort of a classic type menu.
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> *gish* the only other one that, while beautifully displaying the logo, lumps all three into one
[09:17] <zetheroo> dr_willis: I install nvidia-current which then automatically installs nvidia-settings with it. After installing I reboot the machine. After reboot there is no Nvidia Settings shortcut  in the Ubuntu menu ... so I have to open a terminal and do 'sudo nvidia-settings' which then opens it up with a message telling me that the nvidia driver is not in use and that I need to run 'nvidia-xconfig'. So I try 'nvidia xconfig' in the terminal but get 'command not fo
[09:18] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  it would be 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' an its not really needed these days
[09:18] <dr_willis> if you have no xorg.conf then it should auto load the nvidia driver
[09:19] <dr_willis> see if you do have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> I *could* install from lucid's ppa's I'd likely lose a feature I want but do not know it, and lucid is almost out of style anyways.
[09:19] <dr_willis> if so rename it.
[09:19] <zetheroo> dr_willis: yeah 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' ... no go ...
[09:19] <zetheroo> dr_willis: I agree that the driver should be auto-loaded ... ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig was needed ages ago to generate the xorg.conf . but now the xorg.conf is optionsl
[09:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: you're a cool dude, not like some of these other patently annoying experts
[09:20] <dr_willis> IF you  have an xorg.conf tghats loading  some other drivers.. that can cause issues
[09:20] <dr_willis> and im sitting here at work.. getting paid (not for ircing.. but just being at work) :)
[09:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: sounds nice
[09:21] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  this isent one of those dual gpu optimus systems is it?
[09:21] <zetheroo> dr_willis: I see ... but why is it that if I install the nvidia 175 driver it will work after a reboot automatically?
[09:21] <zetheroo> dr_willis: no, this is an older Quadro NVS card
[09:21] <dr_willis> i  only  use the drivers in the repos.. what ones did  you use? sounds like they maybe not  for your  card/broken
[09:22] <zetheroo> and I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on that machine :D
[09:22] <l057c0d3r> that's what i ws thinking dr_willis..  maybe his card is to old for the newer drivers hence why an older set works but the newer one does not
[09:22] <zetheroo> the Nvidia 175 is in the Hardware Drivers dialog ... straight from Ubuntu repos
[09:22] <dr_willis> that would be my guess.. they  are  constantly  dropping out old cards from the propitary drivers
[09:23] <zetheroo> I saw on the Ubuntu forums though that my card was supported in the nvidia-current driver
[09:23] <zetheroo> I see
[09:23] <zetheroo> bummer
[09:23] <dr_willis> nvidia-current is just a generic name for whatever is current in that release..
[09:23] <zetheroo> is there a place where the current list of supported cards are for the nvidia-current driver?
[09:23] <dr_willis> for 10.04 it could be nvidia-current is that older driver not the current available drivers
[09:24] <dr_willis> nvidias site has a list of cards for driver versions
[09:24] <dr_willis>  the term 'nvidia-current' is ubuntus geenric name.
[09:24] <zetheroo> well it was nvidia-current from x-swat repo which was the last one I tried ...
[09:24] <l057c0d3r> speaking of video card drivers.. i had to install the amd drivers from the site to get steam game working.. but i need to drop them and update to the beta some time....
[09:24] <dr_willis> nvidia-current in 10.04 may  not be the same version as ncidia-current in 13.04 ;)
[09:24] <l057c0d3r> been putting it off
[09:25] <dr_willis> xswat would be  using the latest from the nvidia sites.
[09:25] <zetheroo> ok
[09:25] <dr_willis> so that indeed sounds like.. newer drivers dont support your card
[09:25] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, speaking of xswat..  when i added there ppa.. it didn't update my drivers to the experimental versions...  and the updates they gave xorg broke my working steam games :-(
[09:26] <l057c0d3r> just ppa_purged it and built my own debs from the amd website
[09:26] <l057c0d3r> fixed me up good
[09:26] <dr_willis> ive never really  uses xswat stuff.
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> <3 debs
[09:27] <dr_willis> my nvidia sysem is using a 320 card I think.. so its getting a little old
[09:27] <dr_willis> plays skyrim however ;)  just not at max settings
[09:27] <l057c0d3r> i havent tried skyrim with my new driver yet.. however with the driver from the repo..  it would only run on medium settings..
[09:28] <l057c0d3r> but it plays thats all that really mattered to me
[09:29] <calwig> hi
[09:30] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:30] <calwig> can anyone assist with a ISO USB stick weird issue?
[09:30] <l057c0d3r> found out today.. that if i don't boot my system with the hdmi cable plugged in.. i cant get 1080p display on my tv.. but a reboot with the cable plugged in and i can..  kind of odd..  also have to boot with my turtle beach headset plugged in or i cant get digital in the sound settings..
[09:30] <l057c0d3r> calwig, what's the issue
[09:30] <calwig> l057c0d3r, thank you
[09:31] <calwig> USB stick, unetbootin installs Ubuntu ISO, boots fine, installs to partition. No prob
[09:31] <zetheroo> I was just trying to get xbmc working ... so I installed this nvidia card thinking it would be better than the onboard Intel gfx ... man was I wrong!
[09:31] <calwig> then I erase partition with gparted, install Windows Vista or 7 ISO with unetbootin, boots to grub menu... why?
[09:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> calwig: because grub is likely in your mbr
[09:32] <calwig> that i figured out, but how do i remove it completely
[09:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> calwig: that I know not, sorry
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> hmm... so windows 7 installed but from there you can not boot into it..  strange.. usually windows 7 overwrights the mbr with its boot loader
[09:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> google for restore mbr for windows 7
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> or maybe burn the iso for windows 7 to dvd and try installing that way
[09:34] <art1> quick noob question.  how do I mount my main drive to be able to view the files? (in windows would be my c: drive)
[09:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: good point, maybe the unetbootin "taints" win$ with grub
[09:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: do you only have one drive?
[09:34] <lolzer> hi plz help me about creating a hotspot in my laptop.. it creates but no internet  connection on the other device
[09:34] <lolzer> im using 12.04
[09:35] <art1> only one internal
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> lolzer: I fought tooth and nail with mine, never got it working.
[09:35] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, from my experience unetbootin messes up more then it works.
[09:35] <art1> my external is mounted, but not my internal
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: if you'r booted into that one then it is mounted... ahh
[09:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> just open a nautilus window, you should se it to the left
[09:36] <lolzer> ntzrmtthihu777, yeah .. nothing seems to work
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> art1 are you using wubi install
[09:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: yeah, unetbootin tends to fail hard
[09:36] <l057c0d3r> or do you have ubuntu installed on a separate partition on your main hdd
[09:36] <art1> not wubi...
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: he said he had 2 drives, one win$ and one ubu
[09:37] <l057c0d3r> oh.. must have missed that part
[09:37] <huayra> I have an issue with my "/home" partition being too little, but I have plenty of space in my root "/" partition
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> yeah then like ntzrmtthihu777 said.. it should be listed in nautilus on the upper left part of the window..
[09:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> huayra: you would have to boot some live media and shrink / and grow /home
[09:38] <art1> no, It's a pure ubuntu 12.04 install... but I just installed it, been using windows forever so it's easier to compare to it
[09:38] <huayra> is there a way to change the size of a running system without ruining it?
[09:38] <huayra> :)
[09:38] <huayra> ntzrmtthihu777, ok, but it is possible ?
[09:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> its doable, i have done the opposite.
[09:38] <huayra> ok, I'll give it a go
[09:38] <huayra> thanks
[09:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> huayra: just know that it is all in your hands how it ends up
[09:39] <huayra> ntzrmtthihu777, I know, when you use GNU/Linux you get to keep all the broken parts
[09:39] <huayra> ;)
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !gnomeshell-default-linux
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> huayra: huh?
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> dang, ubottu does not know
[09:41] <huayra> ntzrmtthihu777, I know that there is a risk and I am willing to take it
[09:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> huayra: as long as you know that. I have done some of that lately, turned out well
[09:41] <l057c0d3r> as long as you don't take to much space from /  you should be fine
[09:41] <art1> ntzrmtthihu777: I get that it's already mounted, trying to get it to show up on the "start bar" on the left like my external drive does
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> huayra: leave at least 16gb for safety
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: in the unity bar?
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> art1, that i cant help with.. i use gnome-shell
[09:42] <art1> ntzrmtthihu777: is that what it's called :)
[09:42] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 nope that didn't work ether
[09:42]  * ntzrmtthihu777 highfives l057c0d3r 
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: the glassy rounded square icons to the left?
[09:43] <art1> ntzrmtthihu777: yup
[09:43] <Bray90820> what happend was when i selected ubuntu it attempted to load android but then failed and restated the computer
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, don't get me wrong.. i replaced the overlay with bolt....
[09:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, that is your unity launcher, and like l057c0d3r I know little to nothing about it
[09:43] <Bray90820> so now i have to go into the directory and remove every file one by one
[09:43] <art1> l057c0d3r: haven't started messing with the themes yet... that's next :)
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> and have cairo-dock running
[09:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: Or just re-write your 40
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> art1, heh has nothing to do with themes.. you are using unity.. i dont have unity i have gnome shell.. different desktop environment
[09:44] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 no it is detecting ubuntu as android
[09:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> you did point it at the right partition and folder
[09:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: I got docky
[09:45] <art1> ok... see :)  I am still trying to learn all of this :)
[09:45] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 what do you mean
[09:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: :D good
[09:45] <art1> and I know that there is no way for me to learn everything in the three days I've had ubuntu installed :)
[09:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: since you moved the android files into sda1 the grub file needs to point at hd0,1
[09:46] <Bray90820> yes
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> art1, it will be a process.. but myself i love nix
[09:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 but when i try to load ubuntu android attempts to load
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, my desktop :-) http://uppix.net/e/b/9/0d522bce319e79b2ffff82e53a345.png
[09:46] <art1> I"ve already had to slick and reinstall... messing with things I have no business touching yet :)
[09:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: well dang.
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> probably didn't have to reinstall.. good thing about linux.. most everything is reversable
[09:47] <Bray90820> oh well
[09:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> xD I love it!
[09:47] <art1> I'm actually happy to be rid of Microsucks.... didn't realize how user friendly ubuntu could be :)
[09:47] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i will just remove the android files and try something else
[09:47] <art1> I deleted my admin PW...
[09:47] <notyjoey> unless you're installing nvidia drivers
[09:47] <notyjoey> ;)
[09:47] <rjv-im> My Taskbar keeps on showing Warning Sign in Red, but system is updated..
[09:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> art1: I rather like what ubuntu has to offer
[09:47] <art1> and lost the grub menu somehow lol
[09:47] <Bray90820> As in the words of linus torvalds NVIDA FUCK YOU
[09:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> rjv-im: taskbar? this is not windows, explain
[09:48] <notyjoey> lol
[09:48] <IdleOne> !language | Bray90820
[09:48] <notyjoey> i got one of t hose laptops with the discreet nvidia card
[09:48] <ezhilvanan> Hi, How can i change the start-up screen of my ubuntu 12.10? I installed gnome on my ubuntu. so gnome override some of the default functionality of ubuntu.
[09:48] <notyjoey> i cant disable my intel card. so stupid
[09:48] <Bray90820> sorry i was just repeting what linus said
[09:48] <rjv-im> ok.. sorry. i have installed cinnamon.. it has something like bar..
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ezhilvanan: how do you mean?
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> ezhilvanan, google super boot manager
[09:48] <rjv-im> like taskbar.. sorry dont knw wt to call it.. its not unity i can say that..
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> rjv-im: little experience with cinnomon, gave it a whirl a while back
[09:49] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 can you rm from grub
[09:49] <l057c0d3r> it has nice features to change plymouth displays
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> rjv-im: you updated but it says you are not?
[09:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: not that I know, you may needa boot a live cd/usb
[09:49] <l057c0d3r> ezhilvanan, you are talking about the splash that is displayed when you start your system right
[09:49] <Bray90820> i plan on using the live cd
[09:49] <Bray90820> just thinking grub might be eaiser
[09:50] <rjv-im> actually i dont think its related to cinnamon.. If i hover over the sign it says update information is outdated..
[09:50] <Bray90820> well live usb but yea
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: not a clue, just do what you gotta
[09:50] <ezhilvanan> thanks for your reply.. I'm getting gnome screen as start-up screen before logging in..
[09:50] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 yeap :)
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> rjv-im: sudo aptitude update
[09:50] <ezhilvanan> yes exactly
[09:50] <l057c0d3r> rjv-im, have you tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. then reboot?
[09:50] <rjv-im> then  i do : Check Updated and it says system is up to date.
[09:50] <rjv-im> ok..
[09:50] <rjv-im> i will
[09:51] <l057c0d3r> ezhilvanan, hold on one sec.... if you dont want to install a manager for the splash screen i can get you a term command to type that will allow you to change between splash screens you have installed
[09:51] <rjv-im> thanks a lot..
[09:51] <ezhilvanan> yep
[09:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: now what I would like is a way to use my webilder background changer with lightdm
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> heh yeah ntzrmtthihu777
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> k ezhilvanan type sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> select the splash screen you want from the list
[09:53] <l057c0d3r> then do sudo update-initramfs -u
[09:53] <ezhilvanan> wait a sec.. i'll try this cmd
[09:54] <l057c0d3r> after that when you reboot you should see the new splash screen / old one you wanted back
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> ezhilvanan: gack! not win$ is this :P
[09:56] <ezhilvanan> i have to restart my system.. thanks a lot
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> thats what were here for :-p
[09:58] <crackerjackz> for some reason i can't kill firefox.. i ran pidof firefox and it returned a pidof 3754.. when i try killall firefox nothing happens.. when i try kill -9 3574 nothing happens? what can i do other than rebooting my computer to fix it?
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh. I used to just come here to be helped, but as i noticed ppl asking questions I knew the answer too I started helping them instead, and now I hang out alot just to do that
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: alt+f2 xkill
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> then click firefox
[09:59] <TakeItEZ> crackerjackz: pkill firefox or killall firefox-bin
[09:59] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, thats kind of how it went for me as well
[09:59] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: i just accidentally killed the side bar thingy.. im using unity.. any idea on how to get it back?
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: lawl. you mean the launcher?
[10:00] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: yah :)
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: not sure, lemme see
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> crackerjackz, log out and back in
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> heh
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> im sure there is a command you could type as well though
[10:01] <crackerjackz> l057c0d3r: is there a way for me to do it with out doing that.. usually every time i have a problem i reboot or log out and back in.. but i know there are ways around that.. i'd like to learn how
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> unity-launcher
[10:01] <l057c0d3r> ^^^ type that in term
[10:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, do it in alt+f2, in a term you would likely have to keep it open
[10:02] <l057c0d3r> well unity-launcher &
[10:02] <l057c0d3r> then press enter and you can close the term
[10:03] <Bray90820> now i really screwed things up oh well
[10:03] <ezhilvanan> l057c0d3r : i selected --->  * 2            /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth               100       manual mode
[10:03] <Bray90820> i think it's time for a fresh install
[10:04] <Makaor> hello friends
[10:04] <Makaor> ubuntu is hard to use
[10:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Makaor: if you say so
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> ezhilvanan, didn't work
[10:04] <ezhilvanan> Now i can see the ubuntu default screen while shutdown but startup same gnome screen only.. what i have to do now?
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> try 0 or 1
[10:05] <l057c0d3r> which ever of them two are not gnome
[10:05] <Makaor> ntzrmtthihu777, all the commands etc
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Makaor: if you think ubuntu is hard try archlinux
[10:06] <Makaor> ntzrmtthihu777, why?
[10:06] <l057c0d3r> and u did the sudo update-initramfs -u right
[10:06] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, or gentoo
[10:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: never tried it, whazzit like?
[10:07] <l057c0d3r> i have a system running gentoo with fluxbox / lxde
[10:07] <l057c0d3r> its nice.. takes forever to get going
[10:07] <l057c0d3r> builds everything from source
[10:07] <ezhilvanan> l057c0d3r : Now i can see the ubuntu default screen while shutdown but startup same gnome screen only.. what i have to do now?
[10:07] <l057c0d3r> has slightly better speeds then ubuntu.. but ubuntu is my fav now
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: interesting. I rather like ubuntu and its spinoffs.
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> ezhilvanan, do the sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth again.. and select 0 or 1 from that last.. which ever is not the gnome one
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> then do sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> and reboot again see if that helps
[10:08] <ezhilvanan> l057c0d3r: okay
[10:08] <l057c0d3r> the manual one you selected gives issues some times
[10:09] <crackerjackz> hey sorry i had to reboot
[10:09] <crackerjackz> unity-launcher wouldn't work said the command didn't exist.. but i typed unit then pressed tab and a bunch of unity stuff came up
[10:09] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, the speedup comes from everything being built and optimized for the system its running on...
[10:10] <l057c0d3r> but updates take forever
[10:10] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[10:10] <l057c0d3r> and emerge  just isnt as easy as apt-get
[10:10] <crackerjackz> one of the things that came up was unity2d-panel and unity-shell i tried running those but no luck.. then i tried running just plain "unity" and my whole desktop got angry at me
[10:10] <l057c0d3r> have use flags..  among other things you have to add / change ext
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> you know, I had an interesting setup with lightdm at one point. I had accidentally set root nautilus, and it set the background I had intended to set up as mine became roots, and I set mine again and fixed it.
[10:11] <crackerjackz> how do i get rid of unity?
[10:11] <crackerjackz> i want to use lxde
[10:11] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, i went into /usr/source/gnome-shell/theme and changed the .css file and the noisy***.png file...
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> then I later changed my background but not roots, and ended up enabling full root logon as an experiment, when I selected root for login it would change to the root background
[10:11] <l057c0d3r> and fully customized my gdm login screen
[10:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: install lxde, logout and back in under lxde, then a careful selecion of apt-get purge will get rid of it
[10:12] <dr_willis> id leave unity  installed..  just in case
[10:12] <l057c0d3r> also went in and replaced the blinds in /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome... that way i had the same image displayed all the time in gdm
[10:12] <dr_willis> just install and use lxde/lubuntu
[10:12] <ryorky1> when my system/computer suspends, it just comes up to a flickering screen.  I end up having to reboot.  I am on ubuntu 12.0.4 and have a hp pavillion dv6.  Any ideas how to fix this or what could be causing the problem?
[10:12] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: so just run apt-get purge and answer what ever questions it throws at me while logged in under lxde?
[10:13] <chronicle> hi to you all
 could you please show mw because i see a lot of channels
 i am new to ubuntu
 i have been trying to understand how the OS file structure works
[10:13] <FloodBot1> chronicle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 but i want to know more about the UBUNTU LINUX OS functionality
 and how to play around with it
[10:13] <dr_willis> !fsh
[10:13] <dr_willis> Theres a Linux File System Hiarcary web site.. somewhere. ;)
[10:13] <chronicle> sorry i didnt realise
[10:13] <crackerjackz> chronicle: read about filesystem hierarchy
[10:13] <crackerjackz> arrh not file system
[10:13] <dr_willis> tells what most of the  filesystem dirs and stuff does.
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: the syntax is apt-get purge packagename
[10:14] <crackerjackz> hang on ill send you an article
[10:14] <dr_willis> I think the  freedesktop.org site has some articals also on the  topic
[10:14] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: okay thank you that makes sense now :0
[10:14] <crackerjackz> :) *
[10:14] <ryorky1> dr_willis:  any ideas?  ^^
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: how much swap and ram do you have
[10:14] <dr_willis> ryorky1:  i dont use hibernate or suspend.. many drivers and hardware dont work well with iot.
[10:15] <ryorky1> no swap, but 8 gigs of ram
[10:15] <dr_willis> ryorky1:  you do want swap = ram+some more for the feature to work properly
[10:15] <Makaor> hey
[10:15] <Makaor> I AM BACK
[10:15] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, heh hibernate and suspend work great on my system.. however lock with gnomescreensaver puts my system into a coma.
[10:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: there is your problem. hybernate and suspend need a bit more gb than ram
[10:15] <crackerjackz> chronicle: read this.. this will help you understand a lot of what you are trying to understand http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html
[10:15] <ryorky1> dr_willis:  how can I add more swap without reformatting or losing files?
[10:15] <dr_willis> ryorky1:  make a swap partition
[10:15] <chronicle> thanks crackerjacks!
[10:16] <dr_willis> a swap file wont work.
[10:16] <leshaste> can anyone get the "play" button to work at http://www.xeno-canto.org/123835 ?
[10:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: boot a live cd/usb, use gparted to carefully shrink off 8gb and add an 8gb swap
[10:16] <ryorky1> k, will do
[10:16] <rypervenche> chronicle: Type "man hier" in your terminal.
[10:16] <crackerjackz> brb gonna log in to lxde
[10:16] <ryorky1> tnx guys
[10:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: works fine for me
[10:17] <chronicle> ok rypwrveche
[10:17] <we6jbo> hi
[10:17] <leshaste> ntzrmtthihu777, which browser?
[10:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> firefox
[10:17] <iceroot> leshaste: working fine here too
[10:18] <leshaste> iceroot, browser?
[10:18] <iceroot> leshaste: ff
[10:18] <leshaste> ok it works fine in ff
[10:18] <iceroot> leshaste: not working on chromium
[10:18] <leshaste> I can't get it to work in chromium
[10:19] <leshaste> iceroot, snap!!
[10:19] <iceroot> leshaste: same here
[10:19] <crackerjackz> who was it that gave me that apt-get purge <packagename> command again?
[10:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: me
[10:19] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: so do i have to do that with every package that has to do with unity or can i just run apt-get purge unity and it will completely remove it?
[10:20] <leshaste> iceroot, hmm.. I wonder if it is worth reporting
[10:20] <chronicle> that is a lot to read friend thank you
[10:20] <iceroot> leshaste: on there website, yes. a bug against chromium, no
[10:20] <chronicle> one more question
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: not sure, I did each individually. you can do purge unity unity-2d-shell etc, more than one at a time. typing unity then tabbing 2x will list all of the packages.
[10:20] <chronicle> what is the difference in architecture between linux and windows
[10:21] <Laiquendi> wow...
[10:21] <leshaste> iceroot, why is that?
[10:21] <crackerjackz> ntzrmtthihu777: how do i figure how how many packages have to do with unity?
[10:21] <iceroot> !purekde | crackerjackz
[10:21] <chronicle> is there any article for starters to read throught?
[10:21] <leshaste> iceroot, I mean why isn't it a bug?
[10:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: keep unity-greeter though, that's purdy
[10:21] <iceroot> crackerjackz: use the remove part (not the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop part) if you want to remove unity (ubuntu-desktop)
[10:21] <Laiquendi> chronicle: search for what is linux, maybe some UNIX definition
[10:21] <iceroot> leshaste: maybe wrong html5 coding
[10:22] <Laiquendi> chronicle: wikipedia have a lot of stuff :P
[10:22] <crackerjackz> iceroot: thank you.. and ntzrmtthihu777 what is unity-greeter?
[10:22] <leshaste> iceroot, oh well... also maybe not in that case :)
[10:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: likely, different browsers support different aspects of it
[10:22] <iceroot> leshaste: then i would suggest a bug against chromium
[10:22] <chronicle> hahahaha.... it does go like this
[10:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: part of that purdy login screen
[10:22] <chronicle> so i presume that you are advanced here all of you
[10:22] <Laiquendi> chronicle: nope :P
[10:22]  * ntzrmtthihu777 is a noob
[10:22] <chronicle> you can program as well i presume...
[10:23] <chronicle> :P
[10:23] <leshaste> iceroot, ah! It's an mp3 issue
[10:23] <ezhilvanan> l057c0d3r : I followed all the steps .. It is displayed whilst shutting down, but not whilst starting up?!
[10:24] <l057c0d3r> odd
[10:24] <Laiquendi> chrome: of course, we gather here to take over the world of geeks :P
[10:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> leshaste: oh wow, they used the html5 to embed an mp3 not a flash thingus
[10:24] <crackerjackz> iceroot: why would it get rid of brasero? i didn't know that was a part of gnome
[10:24] <Laiquendi> *chronicle
[10:24] <leshaste> ntzrmtthihu777, it needs this stuff http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/get-chromium-on-ubuntu-to-play-mp4-h-264-mp3-view-pdf-files-natively
[10:24] <iceroot> crackerjackz: it is part of ubuntu-desktop which is the metapackage for the complete gui
[10:24] <chronicle> yes Laiquendi
[10:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> crackerjackz: that's why I suggested a careful targeted remove of unity-named packages
[10:25] <l057c0d3r> sorry ezhilvanan that is how i changed it on mine.. and it works..  might want to look into super boot manager...
[10:25] <iceroot> crackerjackz: i thought you want complety remove the gui
[10:25] <l057c0d3r> there is a ppa you can add and after that and an apt-get update you can apt-get install sbm
[10:25] <Laiquendi> chroncle: if you wanna educate in linux there are lots/tons of good articles
[10:25] <leshaste> iceroot, works now!
[10:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: hell no, he wanted to get rid of unity in favor of lxde
[10:25] <ezhilvanan> l057c0d3r : thank you very much.. Cool..
[10:26] <dr_willis> id  suggest just sleecting lxde at the login screen and leaveing unity alone.
[10:26] <iceroot> crackerjackz: you want lxde instead of unity?
[10:26] <iceroot> !purelxde | crackerjackz
[10:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis, always the pacefist
[10:26] <dr_willis> safe-ist
[10:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: doing that gets rid of some gnome stuff he still wants
[10:26] <iceroot> crackerjackz: its the same remove command and at the end "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[10:27] <dr_willis> ive seen numerous people trash things or get stuck when getting overzelous in removeing things
[10:27] <dr_willis> and be sure auto-login is disabled when doing this stuff.. ;)
[10:27] <iceroot> dr_willis: that is always the risk when using a remove-command
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: true. I scragged up once, lost power to my 'top during an upgrade. got back into the desktop after a helluva long time of trying and then ran update again.
[10:28] <dr_willis> and i suggest installing some failsafe window managet just in case.. like jwm
[10:28] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: how do i make sure autologin is disabled?
[10:28] <rypervenche> chronicle: Check the private message I sent you.
[10:28] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  does it auto login when you  boot up?
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> to my dismay over 300 packages were removed and I lost 1gb of files
[10:28] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: nope.. it prompts me for a pssword
[10:28] <dr_willis> then its disa  bled. :0
[10:29] <dr_willis> sene several people in here with auitologin enabled.. remove unity... then the desktop gets very confused...
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: fortuneatly it was a new-borne installation, so i just went ahead and re-installed again, lol
[10:29] <dr_willis> install whatever it is you want to run.. be SURE its working right first.. then if you  really really  feel lucky, remove the other desktops
[10:29] <dr_willis> and i always install jwm  just in case...
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> jwm?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[10:30] <dr_willis> about the smallest window manager i know of.
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> interesting, a bombshelter de eh?
[10:30] <dr_willis> any tinier ones tend to be missing features i consider needed
[10:30] <dr_willis> and i really cant think of any tinyier ones.
[10:30] <iceroot> dr_willis: the smallest window manager is screen :)
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> for when all hell breaks loose
[10:31] <zAo^> lol @ ice799
[10:31] <zAo^> iceroot ^^
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: <3 @ screen
[10:31] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 what was that thing to reinstall grub
[10:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> boot-repair
[10:31] <dr_willis> !info tmux
[10:31] <dr_willis> !info screen
[10:31] <dr_willis> looks like tmux is smaller then screen. ;)
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> I use irssi in screen all the time, detatch and reattach later :D
[10:32] <dr_willis> both are bigger then jwm
[10:32] <iceroot> dr_willis: just because the manpage is smaller :)
[10:32] <zAo^> Bray90820, http://askubuntu.com/questions/83037/how-do-i-reinstall-grub2
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> can you force an open terminal session into a screen?
[10:32] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: no
[10:33] <crackerjackz> iceroot it says the following packages have unmet dependencies default-jre : Depends: openjdk-6-jre (>= 6b23~pre11-1ubuntu1~) but it is not going to be installed
[10:33] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  you mean a X display? or a console?
[10:33] <Bray90820> thank you
[10:33] <crackerjackz> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> I mean like I have irssi open in gnome-terminal right now
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> can I crowbar that into a screen
[10:33] <dr_willis> you can run screen in gnome-terminal
[10:33] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: no not after irssi is started
[10:33] <dr_willis> then you can  screen in from  some other terminal
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, but thats not what I mean
[10:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> iceroot: ok, just a thought.
[10:34] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: you cant put a running shell into a new screen session
[10:34] <Oris_> does anyone know why i might be having issues with "apt-get install libpcre3 libpcre3-dev?" I'm getting unmet dependencies "libpcre3-dev: Depends: libpcre3 (= 7.8-3build1) but 8.12-3ubuntu2 is to be installed" I'd really appreciate some insight.
[10:34] <ryorky1> just removed 10 gigs of ext4 hard drive space and added 10 gigs of linux-swap partition file space, but the system is still flickers when resuming from suspend.  any other ideas?
[10:35] <zAo^> 10Gigs!? tfaq
[10:35] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: try this http://superuser.com/questions/28568/screen-a-running-process
[10:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm trying to create a .desktop launcher for irssi that will gnome-terminal -e 'screen -r $existing-screen' || gnome-terminal -e 'screen'
[10:35] <ryorky1> dr_willis:^^
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: you have to add it to your fstab
[10:36] <dr_willis> you did add a proper swap entry in the fstab?
[10:36] <dr_willis> !swap
[10:36] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[10:36] <ryorky1> ntzrmtthihu777:  how do I do that?
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: he has 8gb of ram and wants to be able to suspend right
[10:37] <l057c0d3r> r
[10:37]  * dr_willis points to the swap faq mentioned  above
[10:37] <dr_willis> !fstab
[10:37] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, k. Still; 9gb should do?
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and make the changes noted in these links ^^
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: perhaps he is ocd and likes round numbers
[10:37] <marcs1989> Hello. I was going through auth.log after some suspicious stuff and I did a search for fail. I saw a few instances of this: http://pastebin.com/Nw51Bgw9 This is really concerning :(. I ran rkhunter, and I got nothing that didn't turn out to be a false positive. Can anyone help? (if that paste gives away some sensitive information, please don't hack me. I'm trusting you guys.)
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcs1989: fan of shadowrun are you?
[10:39] <marcs1989> ntzrmtthihu777 Gibson, actually :)
[10:39]  * ntzrmtthihu777 laughs at coming into linux channel worried about 1337 hax0rz
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcs1989: talking about they cyberdeck of doom
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> are you vexx?
[10:40] <zAo^> marcs1989, looks like a samba user
[10:40] <marcs1989> ntzrmtthihu777 Yes, I am Vexx. That's my standard user profile that I use for daily usage.
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> sorry if i flooded chat
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> opened lifera
[10:40] <vmachine1> if i run a linux script with  >/dev/null 2>&1 what does this do
[10:40] <zAo^> any windows clients that use smb to your machine?
[10:40] <l057c0d3r> closed it.. opened it again
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> and it froze up my gnome-shell session
[10:41] <marcs1989> zAo^ I don't even know what samba is, so I'm guessing that there should not be.
[10:41] <crackerjackz> okay i think i got rid of unity with out breaking things using this guide.. http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unified-removing-unity-from-ubuntu-12-04-lts but i don't feel like logging out right now so imma just chill with you guys and answer some questions
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> but after waiting for the countdown from ctl-alt-backspace.. it logged me out and back in all good now :-p  wonder what happened
[10:41] <zAo^> marcs1989, ¨Windows Network File Shares¨
[10:42] <ztane> pam_winbind in su, that looks so wrong to me
[10:42] <dr_willis> many home media players can access samba/windows shares - and often show  up in my  logs ive noticed
[10:42] <Oris_> If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate some insight. I'm getting unmet dependencies "libpcre3-dev: Depends: libpcre3 (= 7.8-3build1) but 8.12-3ubuntu2 is to be installed." (lucid)
[10:42] <zAo^> vmachine1, It sends all the output of the script to /dev/null (thus, you wont see a thing)
[10:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> jeeze whassup with all the lucid? death throes, maybe?
[10:43] <zAo^> Oris_, what are you trying to install?
[10:43] <marcs1989> zAo^ Yes, there are some windows machines on my network. Mind you, I was cracked recently so I'm a little extra paranoid, but I used a disk made on a different computer to reinstall Ubuntu just to be sure.
[10:43] <ztane> Oris_: try apt-get update and see if there are failures
[10:43] <Oris_> nginx with upload progress, but i got pcre errors on ./configuration which lead me to try installing libpcre3
[10:43] <ryorky1> ntzrmtthihu777:  having some trouble figuring out what the links are saying exactly, can you give me a little more step by step on how to do it?
[10:44] <zAo^> marcs1989, goog thinking. As far as I can see from the log; its just mediaplayers/windows explorer/windows user trying to log on to samba
[10:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: its easy enout. do you know what device the swap is on? /dev/sda* ?
[10:46] <marcs1989> zAo^ Thank you! I was starting to think it was someone in my local area trying to get in. I've had some weird issues like massive memory usage and just now I heard a really strange noise play that sounded like a warning (right before I started checking my auth.log).
[10:47] <zAo^> marcs1989, Hmm. What does ´last´ say?
[10:47] <ryorky1> not 100% sure
[10:47] <Oris_> apt-get install libpcre3 libpcre3-dev is what returned the unmet dependencies
[10:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> run gparted, (install it if you don't have it, its nifty) and we can check therr
[10:48] <marcs1989> zAo^ reboots and my own user names.
[10:49] <zAo^> marcs1989, no weird times?
[10:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: I'm gonna go to slep at the hour, so we should hurry and get this done :D
[10:50] <marcs1989> zAo^ Ummm... some of these are from when I was at work. O.O
[10:51] <zAo^> marcs1989, I´d change my password and reboot, just to be sure.
[10:51] <marcs1989> zAo^ Some of them say 'crash'
[10:51] <zAo^> marcs1989, crash?
[10:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know how to use remmina
[10:51] <marcs1989> zAo^ Do you want me to paste up a log?
[10:52] <lavolanta> hello everyone, i need some help with apache2 configuration for permissions, im getting a 403 forbidden error and page is not loading
[10:52] <zAo^> marcs1989, it may help :)
  It is on sda6 and here is a link to the file brought up by the command u ave me:  http://pastie.org/6410804
[10:53] <ryorky1> what do I need to do?  feel free to modify the file
[10:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ryorky1: sudo blkid /dev/sda6
[10:54] <ryorky1> k, 1 sec
[10:55] <ryorky1> <ntzrmtthihu777:  how can I check to make sure it mounted properly?
[10:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> you mean if its swapping?
[10:55] <dcrochet> hum: question : how to say to unity to not make this : When more one windows of a same programe exist, do not make zoom out when I click for the second time in the button side. My ubuntu make freeze and the only way to work is a "sudo reboot". Thanks for your help. I can use the Compiz-config program that i've installed
  yep
[10:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> check gnome-system-monitor and the resources tab
[10:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> did you do the blkid?
  still says not available
[10:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> then its not sda6 or its swapping. do you have gparted?
  do I have to restart before I can see the change?
[10:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> likely
[10:58] <theodor> hello to all
[10:58] <theodor> quick question: any idea how to install the sound drivers ?
  k, be back in a sec
[10:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> theodor: there are a million soundcards with 2 million drivers, be specific
[10:59] <zetheroo> installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 onto one of our KVM host servers but it does not seem to be able to ping any other machines on our domain ... the Debian machines did not have this issue so it would seem that something needs to be setup on this one system - any ideas what?
[11:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> someone pick up on ryorky, I gotta sleep
[11:00] <zetheroo> I can ping IP's on the network but cannot ping any hostnames
[11:01]  * ntzrmtthihu777 laters
[11:01] <theodor> I am using Ubuntu 12.10, I think I have VIA HD (motherboard gigabyte ga 970a ud3)
[11:01] <ryorky1> ntzrmtthihu777>:  swap still unavailable, but the swap files are on dev/sda6
[11:02] <ryorky1> any other ideas?
[11:02] <IzzoDizzo> ryorky1, is t a sep partition for swapping? or a file
  it's a partition
[11:03] <ryorky1> I hacked it off of my linux partition
[11:03] <zAo^> ryorky1, did you issue ´swapon´ (or mount -a)?
  nope, how would I do that?
[11:05] <theodor> http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp
[11:05] <theodor> I cannot find nothing here
[11:05] <zAo^> ryorky1, you added the swap partition to /etc/fstab right?
[11:05] <theodor> so anyone else having problems with installign sound drivers ?
 I guess so, I fdid the following:  sudo blkid /dev/sda6
[11:06] <ryorky1> is that correct?
[11:07] <ryorky1> I'm new to this, LOL, as if it isn't obvious
[11:08] <zAo^> ryorky1, add ¨/dev/sdaX none swap sw 0 0¨ to /etc/fstab (with the correct disk/partition!!)
[11:09] <wayne__> How do I update clamtk
[11:09] <lhavelund> is it possible to paginate between an application's open windows in Unity, seeing as alt-tab only tabs between different conversations?
[11:10] <jrib> lhavelund: I think there is such a shortcut though I don't use unity and can't recall it.  Is it listed in the shortcut list when you hold down your super key?
[11:12] <ryorky1> zAo^:  here is what that file currently has:  # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
[11:12] <ryorky1> UUID=8c7681e7-3992-451e-b145-0278c9d9471a none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:12] <Gyhy> Hi
[11:13] <jrib> lhavelund: alt-` maybe
  does that look right?  what else do I need to do to activate/mount it?
[11:13] <Gyhy> I have bought a Lenovo B570e and I want to dual boot Win7 & Ubuntu, but I've read that there is a boot problem related to UEFI
[11:13] <lhavelund> jrib: Not as far as I can tell.
[11:13] <auronandace> !uefi | Gyhy
[11:13] <jrib> lhavelund: what ubuntu version?
[11:13] <Gyhy> How do I know if my laptop has a UEFI?
[11:14] <lhavelund> jrib: 12.10.
[11:14] <theodor> ok, so the audio device is recognized
[11:14] <theodor> did a $  lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[11:14] <theodor> the problem still, nothing can be heard
[11:15] <Gyhy> Is there a possibility of corrupting my current Windows 7 Installation if I just install Ubuntu as I used to???
[11:15] <jrib> lhavelund: alt-` (or whatever key is above the tab key on your keyboard) should switch between windows of a single application according to what I'm seeing in google.  Here's even a video demonstrating it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFNnygpvcM&lr=1 What's happening when you press it?
[11:16] <lhavelund> jrib: That does do the trick. Thanks! I haven't used Ubuntu since Gnome2 was the bee's knees. :)
[11:17] <theodor> ok it worked
[11:17] <theodor> finally !
[11:17] <Gyhy> Is it safe to simply install Ubuntu and see what happens?? or it is possible to lose my Windows 7?
[11:17] <theodor> the solution was simple, I put the headphones jack in the right place.
[11:17] <jony> I want to set mysql database path to my mounted windows partition location
[11:18] <jrib> Gyhy: whether or not you install ubuntu, you should have backups.  But you can try ubuntu straight from the cd and if you like it, you can install it and your windows should stick around as long as you don't tell the installer to use the whole disk
[11:19] <jony> how can I change in mysql database location to my wamp's mysql database location?
[11:19] <Gyhy> isn't it possible that Grub might prevent Win7 from booting normally?
[11:19] <theodor> hmm 1080p works a bit freezy, (using Firefox, watching 1080p youtube video)
[11:19] <jrib> Gyhy: I've seen people in here booting win 7 and ubuntu from grub with no problem
[11:20] <Gyhy> Even with UEFI?
[11:20] <Gyhy> or in fact the possibility of having a UEFI?
[11:20] <jrib> Gyhy: I believe so
[11:20] <natosha> I have a really weird problem.  I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 side-by-side with Mountain Lion on my MacBook Pro (retina model).  All seems to work fine, except when I try to boot normally, it freezes after "Loading initial ramdisk . . .".  If I boot into recovery mode, then from there swtich to normal boot, it boots fine.  I'm not sure what to look for . . .
[11:20] <jrib> Gyhy: I think people end up having to disable secure boot though if you're using that.  I'm not familiar with it; I'm just relaying what I've seen in this channel
[11:21] <natosha> I am booting with rEFIt (followed install instructions here: http://cberner.com/2012/10/19/installing-ubuntu-12-10-on-macbook-pro-retina/)
[11:22] <Gyhy> Aha, so is it mandatory to have x64?
[11:23] <astalavista12> -who
[11:23] <jrib> !uefi | Gyhy
[11:23] <astalavista12> Hi everyone
[11:23] <crackerjackz> hello astalavista12
[11:24] <astalavista12> I have a problem when starting Ubuntu(version 10.04). I get to the Desktop where the background, icons and an empty document viewer are visible. However all the panels are greyed out and the computer does not respond to any mouse clicks. Ubuntu worked great for several months and the problem seemed to appear when my laptop shut down after the battery ran out of power. I tried to start in the different recovery modes from the sta
[11:24] <astalavista12> any ideas_
[11:24] <zetheroo> in order to mount nfs shares in Ubuntu do you have to install nfs-common?
[11:25] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: are all of your packages up to date?
[11:25] <astalavista12> I guess so
[11:25] <Gyhy> I'll check my BIOS settings to see if there are some stuff to disable,, [sudo reboot]!
[11:25] <astalavista12> the problem is that I cannot see that
[11:25] <Oris_> Ztane, sorry, I missed your message earlier. I tried apt-get update, I do get some 404s on apt-get update. http://pastebin.com/pWAGMqiX
[11:26] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: are open up the update manager
[11:26] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: what desktop enviornment are you using?
[11:26] <astalavista12> cracker: I cannot open any thing, all panels are greyed out, I can only see the desktop and the icons on it
[11:27] <astalavista12> I think I am using Gnome
[11:27] <ztane> Oris_: surely you shouldnt have any nattys there anymore, as support for it has been dropped....
[11:27] <Guest66530> gsfuysgfy
[11:27] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: press ctrl + alt + f2 to get to a terminal
[11:27] <ztane> Oris_: and how come you have two distros mixed up there confusingly :D
[11:28] <crackerjackz> and then... run sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <astalavista12> cracker: all right. do I need root pw?
[11:28] <ztane> Oris_: you probably have installed the natty pcre-binary already... and
[11:29] <ztane> Oris_: of course bc natty is already unsupported it cannot find the matching dev-package
[11:29] <Oris_> honestly, i'm way out of my realm here...i only started messing with my sources when i started trying to install nginx with the upload progress module....i tried some ppa and other sources suggested by others, but i don't really know
[11:29] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: yeah you'll need root for what im going to have you end up doing
[11:29] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: is this your computer?
[11:30] <ztane> Oris_: the thing is at some point you have mixed 10.10 urls in the sources.list
[11:30] <ztane> Oris_: but support for 10.10 has been dropped already... :S
[11:30] <astalavista12> cracker: yes it is my computer, the only problem is that I am not able to login as root. Any way I can retrieve the pw?
[11:30] <jman074> so i have two pictures of my kids. how do i put different pictures on the other desktops
[11:31] <Oris_> i thought those were there already, i didn't add natty myself, but i did have someone else working on this server a long time ago who may have
[11:31] <ztane> yes
[11:31] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: yes.. you'll have to boot from a live cd and chroot into your ubuntu install and then run the passwd command for your user from the terminal
[11:31] <ztane> Oris_: that is the problem :D
[11:31] <ztane> Oris_: "someone else 'working'" on the server but not maintaining
[11:31] <Oris_> so, just remove the references to natty distros?
[11:32] <ztane> Oris_: but it does not help anything yet ... as you have some natty pkgs installed already....
[11:33] <astalavista12> cracker: all right. How do I chroot into my ubuntu install?
[11:33] <ztane> Oris_: i think your system is like a chimera of natty and lucid, fancy.
[11:33] <Oris_> i had some help setting the server up in the beginning...i've tried to keep up, but I have plenty to learn still
[11:34] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: are you running a 32 bit or 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[11:34] <Oris_> what do you suggest?
[11:34] <bentinata> Anyone know GitHub?
[11:34] <jman074>  i got a ? anyone got an answer
[11:34] <ztane> a) you perhaps should not have ever touched natty as support for it was dropped in 2 yrs
[11:35] <bentinata> How can I add new folder to my repo?
[11:35] <ztane> b) suggest you join #ubuntu-server ;)
[11:35] <astalavista12> cracker: its the 32 bit
[11:36] <ztane> Oris_: what is running on this server
[11:36] <jman074> anyone?
[11:36] <Oris_> everything i've done has been for lucid... i didn't realize it was pulling updates from natty until now.
[11:36] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: do you have a 32 bit version of ubuntu burned to a CD?
[11:37] <Oris_> the server is running 10.04, nginx 1.2.7, for drupal mostly
[11:37] <astalavista12> cracker: yes I do and I can run the trial option from the CD
[11:37] <ztane> Oris_: i am not sure how critical, if not THAT critical i'd try do release upgrade to 12.04
[11:38] <ztane> or try have the natty packages downgraded to lucid
[11:38] <DJones> jman074: Looks like nobody knows the answer at the minute (or they've not seen your question), I'd suggest repeating it about 10-15 minute intervals to give the users in the channel chance to join/leave & change
[11:38] <ztane> I do not know how to do the downgrade, anyone?
[11:39] <jman074> roger
[11:39] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: i have a better idea...
[11:39] <eric_> hiya
[11:39] <astalavista12> crack: sounds great!
[11:40] <ztane> Oris_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[11:40] <Oris_> thanks, i'll check that out.
[11:40] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: when you turn your computer on and the grub menu comes up.. do you see an option for recovery mode?
[11:42] <jman074> how do i install ubuntu on my windows 7 computer
[11:42] <crackerjackz> jman074: there are a few ways to go about it
[11:42] <maveas> ubottu: how to install ubuntu beside windows 7
[11:42] <crackerjackz> jman074: would you like to keep win 7 on your computer?
[11:42] <astalavista12> cracker: I am getting a startup menu where I can choose between different ubunu kernel versions and their corresponding recovery modes plus windows, but no matter what I choose the result is still the same
[11:42] <maveas> ubottu: windows 7
[11:43] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: okay that's good
[11:43] <dr_willis> maveas:  boot the live cd or usb - and follow the install directions
[11:43] <eric_> dual boot
[11:43] <dr_willis> !install | maveas
[11:43] <dr_willis> maveas:  ubottu  is a channel robot.
[11:43] <jman074> i used the windows friendly installer and it did the install and now at the boot screen it asks if i want to run ubuntu or windows but when i choose ubuntu it just takes me bck to that screen
[11:43] <maveas> dr_willis: I know. It wasn't for me but jman074  ;)
[11:44] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: choose recovery mode... then a menu will come up... choose "drop to root shell prompt"
[11:44] <crackerjackz> what is your username?
[11:45] <crackerjackz> jman074: do you want to keep windows and also use ubuntu or do you want to do away with windows all together and just install ubuntu?
[11:45] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: what is your username?
[11:45] <crackerjackz> for the computer you want to change the password on
[11:47] <astalavista12> cracker: username Term
[11:47] <astalavista12> cracker: however it does not recognize my password
[11:48] <astalavista12> cracker: I never used root pw before. Is this the same as the one used as a confirmation when installling programs?
[11:49] <dr_willis> theres no root password by default. your initial user is the admin. and sudo wants their password.
[11:49] <dr_willis> and usernames i think are not case senesertive.. but passwords are. ;)
[11:54] <SBwml> greetings
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:55] <SBwml> hi
[11:55] <jony> how can I change in mysql database location to my wamp's mysql database location?
[11:57] <Touhou11> jony: Edit mysql.conf, though personally I'd just migrate the databases
[11:58] <zAo^> dr_willis, usernames are casesensitive
[11:59] <Touhou11> Linux filesystem is case-sensitive, unlike OS X and Windows
[11:59] <jony> Touhou11,  please tell me the default path for data in my.cnf
[11:59] <dr_willis> zAo^:  cant say ive ever tried. ;) then again.. i rember the installer bug from ages back that let people make a user named 'root'
[12:00] <iDrofox> hello, i have 3gb ram in my computer in two different slots but ubuntu only detect 2gb ?
[12:00] <zAo^> dr_jesus, lol; with uid 1000?
[12:00] <dr_willis> zAo^:  yea - i cant rember the details.. but there was a supriseing # of people that used root as their username
[12:01] <dr_willis> case senesetive user names - seem also.. a bit.. weird. ;)
[12:01] <zAo^> yeah
[12:02] <dr_willis> sucks when your capslock is on by mistake when you enter your info. ;)
[12:02] <LadyVel> Hey, I need some Ubuntu support
[12:02] <LadyVel> I'm not sure if I am in the right channel
[12:02] <zAo^> haha, vi /etc/passwd then :$
[12:02] <dr_willis> !details
[12:02] <invariant> Can someone copy and paste this in a terminal and return the result on a default Ubuntu? echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[12:02] <LadyVel> Basically
[12:02] <LadyVel> I am on Ubuntu 12.04
[12:02] <LadyVel> And I am trying to disable journaling on a Mac OSX hard drive
[12:02] <LadyVel> Inside of Ubuntu
[12:03] <dr_willis> invariant:  blank here on 12.10
[12:03] <LadyVel> I am getting this error
[12:03] <zAo^> LadyNikon, you should boot OSX, disable it, reboot
[12:03]  * canihojr hi
[12:03] <LadyVel> valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$ sudo fsck.hfsplus -fy /dev/sdb [sudo] password for valeskagrim:  ** /dev/sdb valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$ mount /dev/sdb /mnt -t hfsplus -o rw mount: only root can do that valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt -t hfsplus -o rw mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some ca
[12:03] <LadyVel> I cannot boot into OSX
[12:03] <zAo^> y?
[12:04] <LadyVel> I am using a Mac OSX hard drive from my laptop, As a secondary drive in my Desktop.
[12:04] <dr_willis> well.. you want to mount /dev/sdb1 I imagine.. NOT sdb.. unless macs are really weird
[12:04] <LadyVel> Oh
[12:04] <LadyVel> Lemmie try then
[12:04] <invariant> dr_willis, I wish I could see where it got that value.
[12:04] <dr_willis> invariant:  i would guess its some Env setting thats checked then a default is used if its not set.
[12:04] <LadyVel> valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$ sudo fsck.hfsplus -fy /dev/sdb1 ** /dev/sdb1 valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt -t hfsplus -o rw  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so  valeskagrim@valeskagrim-GA-970A-D3:~$
[12:05] <dr_willis> LadyVel: we cant really tell what commands you are using when you paste that way
[12:05] <invariant> dr_willis, I found it already. Thanks.
[12:05] <dr_willis> paste the commands only..
[12:05] <LadyVel> Oh, I'm sorry
[12:05] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: reboot your computer and boot from recoverymode .. a menu will come up.. then choose "drop to root shell prompt"
[12:05] <dr_willis> or just use a pastebin site.
[12:06] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: then lets pretend your username was john... youd type passwd john then press enter... it will then ask you to type a new password
[12:06] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: does that advice i just gave astalavista12 sound about right?
[12:06] <astalavista12> cracker: all right. what is the next step then?
[12:06] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  looks about right
[12:06] <dr_willis> set the password.. reboot
[12:07] <crackerjackz> astalavista12: just turn your computer off and turn it back on... choose recovery mode
[12:07] <crackerjackz> a menu will pop up... choose "drop to root shell"
[12:07] <dr_willis> hold shift if the grub menu does not appear
[12:07] <dr_willis> at bootup
[12:08] <crackerjackz> then pretend your username is john... youd type something like passwd john then press enter.. then it will ask you to enter a new password.. enter the new password then enter it again to confirm... after you've set a password type reboot and press enter
[12:08] <astalavista12> cracker:all right. I will do that and let you know
[12:19] <k-joseph> hi every one, am requesting for assistance on how to upgrade git from version 7 to 8 on any other on ubuntu
[12:20] <ikonia> k-joseph: is there an ubuntu package for the upgrade ?
[12:20] <ikonia> k-joseph: if so, it will be offered to your release through the package manager
[12:21] <cagriwary> hey, libreoffice messes up the formatting in my word docuents, can anyone help?
[12:22] <kelye> that's not quite an ubuntu issue cagriwary
[12:22] <k-joseph> ikonia, it is offered in package manager
[12:22] <kelye> libreoffice and MS word are not always compatible
[12:22] <cagriwary> kelye: but do you know why it happends?
[12:23] <cagriwary> kelye: are there any other programs that are better compatible with word?
[12:23] <kelye> not that I know of :(
[12:23] <kelye> better try to save from word in a different format
[12:24] <kelye> even odf
[12:24] <dr_willis> theres the libreoffice channels also
[12:24] <cagriwary> oh, ill try that one
[12:24] <Makaor> dr_willis, tu madre
[12:26] <dr_willis> amazing how simple wordprocessing can become so complex...
[12:27] <djbengan> where should i turn for mac-help? ^^
[12:27] <dr_willis> depends on what OS you are running on it.
[12:27] <djbengan> ubuntu
[12:27] <dr_willis> Then you are here. ;)
[12:27] <djbengan> :P
[12:28] <cagriwary> its weird that it just doesnt work
[12:28] <mah454> Hello
[12:28] <mah454> Ubuntu mobile released for download ?
[12:28] <dr_willis> !phone
[12:29] <Makaor> dr_willis, tu madre es una grande puta!
[12:29] <dr_willis> Nacho Bell Grande?
[12:29] <djbengan> Well, the wiki tells me to install the nvidia drivers, but when i do, xorg stops functioning.
[12:29] <Cicebro> Having some problems with Ubuntu 12.10 & fglrx. Is this the right place to ask?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> dr_willis,  kick that jerk
[12:29] <dr_willis> djbengan:  you may want to check the askubuntu.com site for info on your specific make mac.
[12:29] <cagriwary> habla espanol makaor?
[12:30] <k1l> djbengan: make sure you have the kernel headers installed to your kernel
[12:30] <k1l> !es | cagriwary
[12:30] <Makaor> cagriwary, si
[12:30] <cagriwary> hahaha
[12:30] <djbengan> i did check the askubuntu site, thats why im here. there is nothing on 12.10 and 3,1 macbook air...
[12:30] <Cicebro> After I installed fglrx the UI has completely disappeared. Any fix?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> cag , he's in greece
[12:31] <BluesKaj> cagriwary,^
[12:31] <dr_willis> They really need to make/revive that failsafe-x wizard thing for people that have these way to common driver issues
[12:32] <djbengan> but, the headers? rnt they installed by defualt?
[12:32] <Cicebro> How do I fix that without using the failsafe-x wizard or it's revival? ;)
[12:33] <k1l> djbengan: make sure to have them right. its a common problem
[12:34] <djbengan> turned out i had no headers
[12:34] <djbengan> ty
[12:34] <cagriwary> guys, what word processor can you guys recommend for me
[12:34] <dr_willis> cagriwary:  depends on your needs.
[12:35] <dr_willis> light ussage = abiword. mainstream = libreoffice
[12:35] <dr_willis> hardcore = LaTeX ;P
[12:35] <cagriwary> i need a processor where i can integrate with word
[12:35] <dr_willis> No idea
[12:35] <dr_willis> ;P
[12:35] <cagriwary> i thought about latex
[12:35] <dr_willis> make sure you save your word stuff as ODT i guess
[12:35] <cagriwary> but, noone on my class uses it
[12:36] <cagriwary> yeah, but i just tried that. and it ruined the doc completely
[12:36] <cagriwary> all pictures went to the top left corner
[12:36] <k1l> cagriwary: that suits better into the offtopic channel. except there is a technical issue
[12:36] <ovidius2> cagriwary: try freeoffice (which ironically free but proprietary)
[12:37] <djbengan> trying a reboot now, fingers crossed
[12:37] <ovidius2> cagriwary: has the best word filters around. very stable and robust
[12:39] <dr_willis> heh. Not in school any more.. abiword does my needs.
[12:39] <dr_willis> used troff and tex ages ago.
[12:40] <dr_willis> wordstar ;) and finalwriter in college
[12:41] <theadmin> You people and your weird office suites... LibreOffice is just fine.
[12:43] <dr_willis> Too big. ;)
[12:43] <dr_willis> and too Libre.
[12:46] <TakumoKatekari> Hi all, I'm using rxvt-unicode-256color -- but when I SSH into a remote machine, backspace doesn't work, CTRL+L doesn't work and I get "unknown terminal type"
[12:46] <TakumoKatekari> How can I fix this for all SSH connections?
[12:46] <dr_willis> always amuseing to see articals on using minimal-distraction-free text editors... gee thats all we had back then. ;)
[12:46] <dr_willis> set your TERM type perhaps?
[12:47] <TakumoKatekari> can I set it in .ssh/config or somewhere?
[12:47] <dr_willis> as for the backspace.. theres  a old backspace-delete howto at tldp.org with many fixs
[12:47] <dr_willis> really it should set itself when you connect
[12:47] <dr_willis> echo $TERM and see what it says
[12:47] <TakumoKatekari> Its "unknown terminal type: rxvt-unicode-256color"
[12:48] <TakumoKatekari> the remote system doesn't have any understanding of 256color terminals, and I can't put it on because there are dozens of these machines
[12:48] <dr_willis> so echo $TERM gives 'rxvt-unicode-256color' ?
[12:48] <TakumoKatekari> yes
[12:48] <TakumoKatekari> but the remote machine doesn't understand that $TERM
[12:48] <dr_willis> try export TERM='xterm'
[12:49] <dr_willis> why are you using rxvt-unicode-256color anyway?
[12:49] <TakumoKatekari> It worked! Can I have this inside of my .ssh/config
[12:49] <dr_willis> its a hack.. the machine really should have a proper termcap
[12:49] <TakumoKatekari> dr_willis: For ViM, Midnight Commander, weechat, and Ranger
[12:49] <dr_willis> what OS are you sshing into?
[12:49] <TakumoKatekari> Ubuntu 12.04 on EC2
[12:49] <theadmin> TakumoKatekari: All of those are xterm-compatible...
[12:49] <dr_willis> normal rxvt and xterm should work fine
[12:49] <dr_willis> TakumoKatekari:  that is weird.. Id bet they dident install the proper termcap stuff by default
[12:50] <dr_willis> best fix would be to install that termcap stuff..
[12:50] <TakumoKatekari> dr_willis: That's not an option, these are company servers, and there are dozens of them.
[12:50] <dr_willis> egads - this is OLD skool knowledge im using today
[12:50] <TakumoKatekari> .ssh/config supports SendEnv
[12:51] <dr_willis> or you could use a more common terminal emulator. ;)
[12:51] <leshaste> I know see this a lot in a terminal
[12:51] <leshaste> On Wednesday, the FSA said members of the public were to be asked if they find low levels - or "trace contamination" - of horse and other species in beef products acceptable.
[12:51] <leshaste> grr
[12:51] <leshaste> not that :)
[12:51] <FloodBot1> leshaste: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <dr_willis> since i dont see what you are gaining by using that one
[12:51] <leshaste> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r600.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:51] <leshaste> anyone else know what that is about?
[12:51] <djbengan> guise
[12:51] <djbengan> unity just broke
[12:51] <leshaste> it only started after a package upgrade
[12:52] <leshaste> but I don't know which one
[12:52] <TakumoKatekari> dr_willis: Proper support for my ViM colorscheme when editing config files.
[12:52] <leshaste> apt-file search libvdpau_r600.so doesn't find it at all
[12:52] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever used or needed 256 colors in vim. ;) im too old skool i guess
[12:53] <djbengan> but atleast the ubuntu startup logo is showin correctly
[12:53] <theadmin> djbengan: How did it "beak"?
[12:53] <dr_willis> of course if it thinks its a xterm - it  may not use 256 colors
[12:53] <djbengan> i installed the suggested header,
[12:53] <theadmin> dr_willis: TERM="xterm-color" # Problem solved.
[12:53] <leshaste> I am only running chromium and kile and xchat
[12:54] <dr_willis> but its 256 colors! ;)
[12:54] <meditator> hello. I'm working voluntary for a non-profit organisation. We have a ubuntu 12.04 running. We have got quite a few doc, xls, pdf and some text files. What would be an easy way to have a browser based searchable index which indexes text from files and names of all the files, including audio file names ? Your help greatly appreciated ..
[12:54] <djbengan> and remove the header
[12:54] <djbengan> and the nvidia drivers
[12:55] <djbengan> and it still freezes when logged in
[12:55] <IzzoDizzo> djbengan, boot into single user mode and look at the logs
[12:55] <a111> does google analytics show the user agent
[12:55] <turner_> please guys
[12:55] <dr_willis> make sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is gone also djbengan
[12:55] <turner_> can I have Vega tool on my blackbuntu ?
[12:56] <theadmin> "blackbuntu" is not a supported Ubuntu derivative.
[12:56] <dr_willis> turner_:  ask in the blackbuntu support channels
[12:56] <turner_> okay thnx :)
[12:56] <IzzoDizzo> 56 chef
[12:56] <IzzoDizzo> oops mt
[12:57] <leshaste> ok so how about this
[12:57] <leshaste> vdpauinfo
[12:57] <leshaste> display: :0   screen: 0
[12:57] <leshaste> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r600.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:57] <djbengan> xorg.conf is not existing, only xorg.conf.failsafe
[12:57] <leshaste> how do I fix that?
[12:57] <djbengan> theadmin tty is the only thing working
[12:58] <IzzoDizzo> djbengan, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like?
[12:58] <theadmin> djbengan: Is noveau (the open-source nvidia driver) installed and loaded?
[12:59] <theadmin> djbengan: Sorry, nouveau
[12:59] <theadmin> God what's with those unpronouncable names :/
[13:00] <djbengan> xorg is still trying to load glx from nvidia...
[13:00] <djbengan> the logs sais
[13:02] <djbengan> open source nvidia is installed.
[13:02] <djbengan> how to i enable it using terminal?
[13:02] <theadmin> djbengan: sudo modprobe nouveau
[13:03] <theadmin> djbengan: You might want to blacklist nvidia in your modprobe.conf as well.
[13:06] <djbengan> blacklisted nvidia, still the same issue
[13:06] <dr_willis> make sure nouveau is not blacklisted
[13:07] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:10] <djbengan> still not working
[13:13] <djbengan> any more suggestions? full freeze when logged into desktop
[13:14] <theadmin> djbengan: Can you log in as another user?
[13:14] <djbengan> guest user
[13:14] <theadmin> Any other user
[13:14] <djbengan> no, only got one
[13:15] <theadmin> djbengan: Then add another one from a TTY ("sudo adduser")
[13:17] <djbengan> another user created
[13:17] <theadmin> djbengan: Try to log in now.
[13:17] <djbengan> still broken, but no freeze
[13:17] <theadmin> Uh, then how is it broken?
[13:19] <djbengan> theadmin: eh, typical, broken, random text instead of icons, checkered patterns on top bar etc
[13:19] <theadmin> Huh, can't say I've ever seen that before
[13:20] <d3c0> update the python version 2.7! ?
[13:20] <theadmin> d3c0: To what? 2.7 is the final release in the 2.x branch.
[13:20] <cursor007> Hi
[13:21] <Layke> I just made a change to /etc/sudoers and I think it had a mistake
[13:21] <Layke> Now I can't fix the mistake.
[13:21] <astalavista12> crackerjackz: i works now, at least I was able to get in
[13:21] <astalavista12> "it"
[13:22] <theadmin> Layke: You use "visudo" to edit that file and don't touch it by hand, normally. Boot into recovery mode and fix it from there.
[13:22] <djbengan> theadmin: imgur.com/uBuBY4Q
[13:22] <Layke> O okay. Woops
[13:22] <d3c0> I have the Python 2.6.6 version, I want the python 2.7 !
[13:22] <astalavista12> cravkerjazz: you are the man!
[13:23] <theadmin> d3c0: Then you'll need to upgrade Ubuntu to at least 12.04.
[13:24] <d3c0> there are another choices?
[13:24] <astalavista12> Does anyone know if ita possible to get the same interface on 12.04 as on 10.04. I like the one on 10.04 better, I find it more user friendly
[13:24] <theadmin> No, trying to upgrade Python through third-pary sources will likely break half your system.
[13:24] <theadmin> astalavista12: The same, no, not anymore. But, take a look at this, it's very very similar: http://xubuntu.org
[13:25] <gynna> http://www.reddit.com/r/AdultDating18/comments/19t98u/ebony_pornstar_simone_staxxx/
[13:26] <astalavista12> cheers the admin. I never tried xubuntu before. What are the pros, cons in comparison to ubuntu?
[13:26] <theadmin> astalavista12: You can easily install Xubuntu from within Ubuntu by "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop".
[13:26] <darq_> it rulez
[13:27] <k1l> !notunity | astalavista12
[13:27] <djbengan> tried --reinstall on unity
[13:27] <k1l> astalavista12: but xfce and lxde look like gnome2 too
[13:27] <theadmin> astalavista12: Well, Xfce is basically the same thing as Gnome2 from a user's point of view. Except it's prettier and somewhat more functional (for example, you can have panels anywhere, not just edges of the screen).
[13:27] <theadmin> astalavista12: As for disadvantages, I only found one major one: Thunar doesn't integrate with Ubuntu One sanely, but you can still fix that. Somewhat.
[13:28] <darq_> runs fast on 1g ram
[13:28] <astalavista12> all right, thanx to everyone for the info!
[13:29] <djbengan> trying xubuntu-desktop to check if it is unity or the system itself...
[13:30] <djbengan> i find it intresting how about 1 in 4 install comes out with working unity on the macbook air
[13:33] <meditator> hello. I'm working voluntary for a non-profit organisation. We have a ubuntu 12.04 running. We have got quite a few doc, xls, pdf and some text files. What would be an easy way to have a browser based searchable index which indexes text from files and names of all the files, including audio file names ? Your help greatly appreciated ..
[13:34] <Stdedos> Anyone here having a LOT of time?
[13:35] <levo> sed s/foo/goo oldFile > newFile   ---------> sed: -e expression #1, char 11: unterminated `s' command   ---what's wrong?
[13:35] <theadmin> levo: s/foo/goo/
[13:35] <theadmin> Stdedos: That's not a support question.
[13:36] <Stdedos> theadmin: indeed it is not, but I want some help on compliling kernel in VM
[13:36] <soa2ii> Hi there. I try to setup a virtual machine host usgin libvirt on 12.04. Now I have two ethernet ports on my system. eth0 is statically configured to be my host systems IP now I'd like to set up a bridge on eth1 with no IP so my vitual machoines can access our LAN through that bridge. I tried this setup http://pastebin.com/Qi1XHnnH but "service networking restart" does not apply my br0. A manual "ifdown br0" results in "ifdown: interface br0 not
[13:36] <soa2ii>  configured". Any ideas?
[13:36] <theadmin> Stdedos: Why would you even bother... The stock kernel woks fine for about anything
[13:36] <nikitis> Linux question:  I want to compress a directory using lzma.  tar --lzma -xvf dir.tar.lzma dir/  <== looking at this, how do I make lzma use highest compression ratio?
[13:37] <Stdedos> theadmin: Uni student, messing with Kernel
[13:37] <Stdedos> theadmin: project
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> meditator: http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/open-source-dropbox-alternatives-to-start-building-a-file-storage-sharing-system/
[13:38] <theadmin> Stdedos: Well, you can PM me. I don't have a "LOT" of time always, but sometimes I do have free time to help.
[13:41] <hapster> Anyone know what XOrg version ubuntu 13.04 will  be getting?
[13:41] <nikitis> won't be
[13:41] <nikitis> ditching it
[13:41] <meditator> thanks ActionParsnip , but these seem to be just storage systems with user management etc.... they dont seem to have search capabilities for the content that is stored ?
[13:41] <nikitis> Using Mir
[13:42] <Pici> nikitis: no
[13:42] <nikitis> Anyone have an answer for my question above?
[13:42] <avu> 13.04 won't be using Mir, no. It will be quite a while until Mir can maybe replace Xorg for normal desktops
[13:42] <nikitis> i need a guru for my question.  Google doesn't answer
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> avu: #ubuntu+1 for anything Raring based til release day please
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: ask and see
[13:43] <nikitis> i did
[13:43] <theadmin> nikitis: Try something along the lines of: tar c dir | lzma -9e > output.tar.lzma
[13:43] <fatninja> Ubuntu is ultra fast, but I want to switch it to the next level, I want to migrate it to my ssd hard drive
[13:43] <fatninja> how can I migrate and keep the same settings ?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: after you make the file, gzip it with the highest compression
[13:43] <nikitis> well i want to use lzma
[13:44] <theadmin> nikitis: And that will.
[13:44] <nikitis> the cleanest way to do it was the way I stated
[13:44] <avu> nikitis: same thing, use tar, then lzma with -9
[13:44] <nikitis> but not sure where to add the -9
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> fatninja: make a backup (as you should be already) then restore the backup
[13:44] <fatninja> it's that easy ?
[13:44] <ogra_> hapster, whatever is recent at the time in debian .... (and X will run fine on top of Mir, no worries)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> fatninja: sure, why wouldn't it be?
[13:44] <djbengan> im now running gnome3 and all the issues are solved.
[13:45] <fatninja> ok, but then I need to update the bootloader
[13:45] <nikitis> tar --lzma cvf file.tar.lzma directory/
[13:45] <fatninja> right ?
[13:45] <theadmin> nikitis: I just gave you the whole command: tar c DIR | lzma -9e > OUTFILE
[13:45] <nikitis> ok
[13:45] <frew> hey guys, how can I make FF my default browser?  opening links keeps opening chromium
[13:45] <nikitis> that's just a bit hard to remember
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: if you are working on already compressed data, unless it is a LOT you probably won't notice a huge amount of difference
[13:45] <hapster> ogra_ but Mir will be expected on 14.04 right? not 13.04?
[13:45] <theadmin> frew: System Settings -> Details -> Default apps
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: once you do something once, you could make a script :)
[13:46] <frew> thanks
[13:46] <ogra_> hapster, well, its not clear yet if there will actually be a 13.04 ... but yeah, the actual switch is planned for around october
[13:46] <nikitis> ActionParsnip: yes, but i tend to zip 8GB + files
[13:46] <nikitis> a lot
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> frew: what are you opening the links in?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: then I'd script it, saves leg works
[13:47] <frew> ActionParsnip: right clicking links in terminator and clicking open...
[13:48] <hapster> ogra_ yeah couldn't get any news on that. Would want to see it running asap though.
[13:49] <ogra_> hapster, https://plus.google.com/110095242873945299189/posts
[13:50] <ogra_> he's the lead dev
[13:50] <ogra_> (or one of them)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> frew: then theadmin's advice will fly :)
[13:51] <nikitis> i helped with commits for dual monitors on xorg years ago
[13:51] <frew> yeah I already checked :)
[13:52] <hapster> ogra_ Thanks. I've seen those videos already but no word yet on weather it will be for the April release. Looks like it still has a long way to go
[13:52] <ogra_> it surely has
[13:52] <ogra_> though you will likely see it on touch devices very soon
[13:52] <ogra_> faster tthan on desktops
[13:52] <Touhou11> The wayland codebase is more developed, maybe they'll switch if behind schedule
[13:53] <ogra_> nope
[13:53] <nikitis> what does current ubuntu tablet do?
[13:53] <ogra_> wayland is so far from Mir they dont have much in common
[13:53] <auronandace> !tablet
[13:53] <histo> !phone | nikitis
[13:53] <ogra_> dont belive the FUD you read :)
[13:53] <Touhou11> ogra_: The only FUD was from Canonical... Wayland developers debunked most of the claims in the spec, they hadn't even been approached...
[13:53] <ogra_> (mir is closer to androids surfaceflinger than to wayland)
[13:54] <narcos> Hey all. What's the right way to disable my /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server from running on boot? To just delete / move the file?
[13:54] <Touhou11> !ot | ogra_
[13:54] <Pici> This is really a better topic for #ubuntu-touch or -discuss than -fftopic
[13:54] <ogra_> yeah, sorry
[13:56] <nooga> hi
[13:56] <histo> marahin: sudo update-rc.d -f isc-dhcp-server remove
[13:57] <cfhowlett> nooga, greetings
[13:57] <histo> marahin: or you can disable it
[13:57] <nooga> I'm trying to add unetbootin made usb stick as a package source in freshly installed ubuntu (no internet access because wifi driver failed)
[13:57] <histo> marahin: update-rc.d service disable runlevel
[13:57] <marahin> histo, I think that you're misstabbing me.
[13:57] <nooga> i've added deb file://path/to/mounted/stick/dists/quantal quantal main restricted
[13:58] <histo> narcos: see updat-rc.d commands
[13:58] <histo> marahin: sorry
[13:58] <marahin> np.
[13:58] <nooga> to the sources list... but it looks like apt-get update fails on that
[13:58] <histo> narcos: you can sudo update-rc.d -f isc-dhcp-server remove  to remove the scripts or use update-rc.d service disable runlevel to disable it
[13:58] <nooga> even though i have Release and Release.gpg files in there, and overall structure looks fine
[13:59] <cfhowlett> nooga, can I ask what wifi chip you've got?  if, as I suspect, it's a broadcom, the fix is pretty easy ...
[13:59] <nooga> cfhowlett: broadcom
[13:59] <nooga> :D
[13:59] <histo> narcos: the most proper way would be to disable it
[13:59] <cfhowlett> nooga and you're running 12.10?  wait 1
[13:59] <nooga> cfhowlett: yes, i'm trying this atm: http://askubuntu.com/a/215342
[14:00] <histo> narcos: so sudo update-rc.d isc-dhcp-server disable
[14:00] <nooga> but without internet connection and apt sources i think i cannot do that
[14:00] <PeterGriffin> Hi all. I have ubuntu server 12.04 on RAID 1, but it can't find GRUB and keeps asking me for a system disk. I installed GRUb form live dvd few times but it doesn't work. HELP
[14:00] <cfhowlett> nooga, pretty sure we can get your internet up ...
[14:01] <nooga> cfhowlett: how? :)
[14:01] <cfhowlett> nooga, first things first: open a terminal and run this command    lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[14:01] <cfhowlett> nooga  terminal?
[14:01] <PeterGriffin> will it help if I copy /boot/grub from archive to the filesystem?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> nooga, type terminal on the dash then click.
[14:02] <nooga> cfhowlett: says BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[14:02] <nooga> i'm retyping this on another computer :D
[14:02] <cfhowlett> nooga, sweet.  you'll kick yourself when you see how easy this is ...
[14:03] <nooga> I can't wait :D
[14:03] <lcabreza1> hi guys, anybody has a complete command to show memory usage by percentage using vmstat ? this is the only available on Sun OS
[14:03] <cfhowlett> nooga, in the following link, see the STA - No Internet Access method.  You even get to use that nice usb stick you made ... http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[14:04] <nooga> okay... sec
[14:04] <cbeebie> lcabreza, you can get a breakdown of memory usage using 'top'
[14:06] <cfhowlett> nooga ???
[14:06] <lcabreza1> cbeebie: no top command available
[14:07] <Pici> lcabreza1: Are you running Ubuntu?
[14:07] <shmoon> hi
[14:07] <lcabreza1> Pici:the current os i support is on Sun OS wondering if anybody has an idea ..
[14:08] <shmoon> $ which android - cannot locate the command, when android's directory is in PATH, how can i fix it ?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> shmoon, android?  this is ubuntu ...
[14:08] <Pici> lcabreza1: Well, this is #ubuntu, and we only support Ubuntu here.  I don't know what their channel is, but perhaps #freenode or alis (/msg alis help list) can help you find it.
[14:08] <ezhilvanan> Can we expect ubuntu 13.04 by end of this Month?
[14:08] <shmoon> cfhowlett: talking about the which command, android is just an executable
[14:08] <cfhowlett> ezhilvanan, no.  04 means april
[14:09] <Pici> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 > ezhilvanan
[14:09] <lcabreza1> Pici: Thanks anyways ..just don't know the room for SUN Os ..
[14:09] <shmoon> cfhowlett: $ which executable should output the path of a command rigt ?
[14:09] <layke__> Hey, I edited /etc/sudoers  ( I didn't know about visudo), anyway, when I boot into recovery mode, I can't even edit the /etc/sudoers file
[14:09] <shmoon> in my case it doesnt for a command whose PATH was just added, is there a way to fix this.
[14:09] <layke__> ANy ideas?
[14:09] <shmoon> this is preventing a sofyware from executing
[14:09] <cfhowlett> shmoon, sorry, I've got to punt.  Over my head.
[14:09] <ezhilvanan> thanks for your replies
[14:10] <cfhowlett> ezhilvanan, best of luck
[14:10] <shmoon> punt?
[14:10] <ezhilvanan> cfhowlett, thanks
[14:10] <Pici> shmoon: does the path you 'added' show up in echo $PATH?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> shmoon, sorry.  I can't answer your query.   Perhaps someone else more knowledgeable ...
[14:10] <shmoon> Pici: yes, and typing and and hitting tab also completed android
[14:11] <ezhilvanan> ubottu, thanks
[14:11] <ezhilvanan> means?
[14:11] <nooga> cfhowlett: done, thanks! It magically worked!
[14:11] <kelye> it's an automated script
[14:11] <kelye> not a real person :)
[14:12] <cfhowlett> nooga, was that not just ridiculously easy?
[14:12] <nooga> yeah
[14:12] <cfhowlett> nooga, bookmark the page for next time.  glad I could help
[14:13] <Pici> shmoon: hmm, it seems to work for me here.
[14:13] <nooga> big thanks cfhowlett
[14:13] <shmoon> do i have to reboot ?
[14:13] <Pici> shmoon: you shouldn't have to do anything. You could try doing running  rehash   though
[14:14] <shmoon> theres no rehash command
[14:14] <TaMpeRen> hello
[14:14] <Pici> shmoon: sorry, was thinking about zsh.
[14:15] <TaMpeRen> does anyone uses rabbitsvn?
[14:16] <PeterGriffin> I have ubuntu server 12.04 on RAID 1, but it can't find GRUB and keeps asking me for a system disk. I installed GRUb form live dvd few times but it doesn't work. HELP
[14:16] <Pici> shmoon: Anyway, I just tested in bash too and which was instantly able to find a new executable I put in a new entry in PATH
[14:16] <PeterGriffin> will it help if I copy /boot/grub from archive to the filesystem?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> PeterGriffin, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server ???
[14:17] <mynameisbruce> what happened to firefox settings in raring ringtail daily?
[14:17] <mynameisbruce> privacy settings are disabled by default
[14:17] <TaMpeRen> what is  raring ringtail ?
[14:17] <mynameisbruce> no chance to enable them manually
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|mynameisbruce,
[14:18] <mynameisbruce> oha
[14:18] <mynameisbruce> sorry...
[14:18] <TaMpeRen> ic ty
[14:18] <TaMpeRen> new to all this
[14:18] <cfhowlett> TaMpeRen, not to worry
[14:19] <TaMpeRen> ubuntu impoved alot from last i used it
[14:20] <shmoon> Pici: strange
[14:20] <TaMpeRen> is there a way i can ignore all the people who join the and quit the channel?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: which client?
[14:20] <TaMpeRen> its website site
[14:20] <cfhowlett> TaMpeRen, depends on your irc client.  check the preferences ...
[14:21] <TaMpeRen> installed Mirc
[14:21] <TaMpeRen> dont know how to connect
[14:21] <maveas> On Ubuntu?
[14:21] <TaMpeRen> currently on windows
[14:21] <Pici> TaMpeRen: Theres a setting in the options button on the upper right or left of the window that you can use to hide joins/parts/quits
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: then I'd look on mirc things, why not use one of the many native irc clients for Linux
[14:22] <Pici> Its the webchat, not mirc.
[14:22] <TaMpeRen> i am installing it on my laptop now
[14:23] <layke_> When I boot, I get to select lots of different versions to boot to.. Ubuntu, with Linux 3.0.0-generic etc.. and like 6 others. What exactly are these?
[14:23] <maveas> No support for mIRC here! :P
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> layke_: old kernels
[14:23] <maveas> Join quakenet for that
[14:23] <cfhowlett> layke_, old kernels that you have saved ...
[14:23] <pablo__> hi
[14:24] <maveas> layke_: it's always a good idea to save at least one old kernel if the newly installed doesn't start properly :)
[14:24] <TaMpeRen> on i on ubuntu
[14:24] <layke_> Okay, I ask, because I can boot into 2.8.0, but I accidentally, killed my /etc/sudoers file in my 3.0.0, and I can't repair it. Is there a way, while I'm in 2.8.0, to edit the 3.0.0 /etc/sudoers ?
[14:24] <layke_> maveas, I'm not even sure how to save, but apparently it must do it automatically?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> layke_: I suggest you repoair by using a liveCD
[14:24] <TaMpeRen> which one to install
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: which one what??
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> irc in ubuntu
[14:25] <maveas> layke_: per default is't saving them ofc, but you could remove the old to clear some space
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> Quassel?
[14:25] <marc_smith> hello. Does Ubuntu have a mechanism to automatically remove old kernels? if so, then how many kernels does it remove and when?
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> xChat
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: do yo ulike the scriptability in mirc?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> TaMpeRen, pretty sure you've already got an irc client in your ubuntu ...
[14:25] <IzzoDizzo> TaMpeRen, x-chat is ok
[14:25] <maveas> TaMpeRen: Depends on your level and if you want gui/non-gui
[14:25] <layke_> I don't have any CDs unfortunately. (CD's to actually burn to disk).
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: do you actually use mirc fully>
[14:25] <maveas> TaMpeRen: I'm using irssi
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> my first time using
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> i think i will like gui
[14:25] <TaMpeRen> for starters
[14:26] <elrazad> hi
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: then I suggest you use xchat or pidgin, nice and easy
[14:26] <layke_> So, ActionParsnip, I can't "mount" the latest version? I don't really know how the kernels work, like they must be accessible somewhere?
[14:26] <layke_> I just added somethign invalid by mistake to /etc/sudoers so now nothing works for me.
[14:26] <layke_> And booting to recovery, I can't run pkexec visudo, and vi /etc/sudoers is read only, so I can't save.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> marc_smith, not automatically no ...
[14:27] <cfhowlett> marc_smith, and, as mentioned, recommended practice is to keep at least one "old" kernel ... just in cae.
[14:27] <marc_smith> cfhowlett: thx. Is there any way to add such functionality?
[14:27] <levo> mplayer -ao pcm -vo null -vc dummy -dumpaudio -dumpfile <output-file> <input-file>
[14:27] <TaMpeRen> installing action
[14:27] <levo> damn
[14:27] <cfhowlett> marc_smith, probably but I'm not the one to ask ...
[14:28] <marc_smith> cfhowlett: thx anyway
[14:28] <levo> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:28] <hero100> layke_: you can make modification in recovery mode
[14:28] <layke_> hero100, That was what I thought, but when I get to recovery mode, even though I am root,
[14:28] <layke_> I can't make modifications
[14:28] <layke_> Everything is read only
[14:28] <hero100> yes, just click another menu
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | levo
[14:29] <hero100> I cannot remember clear
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> levo: I assume no updates are running and software centre is not open
[14:29] <layke_> Okay, I'll try
[14:29] <layke_> Let's try again :)
[14:29] <TaMpeRen> done
[14:29] <TaMpeRen> actionparsnipe
[14:30] <levo> ubottu: no result
[14:30] <hero100> layke_: it's not named recovery, not seems naturally
[14:31] <TaMpeRen> action
[14:31] <TaMpeRen> i made the account for IRC
[14:31] <WhiteHorse> can anyone help me with bluetooth device driver ? I am on 12.10.
[14:31] <Pici> !who
[14:31] <TaMpeRen> thanks ubottu
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: most clients can auto-identify you
[14:32] <TaMpeRen> ActionParsnip: hey
[14:32] <TaMpeRen> ActionParsnip: k lemme youtube this
[14:33] <levo> ActionParsnip: how about killing apt-get process?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> levo: are updates running or software centre open?
[14:33] <levo> no
[14:33] <levo> none
[14:33] <TaMpeReN1> spine
[14:33] <TaMpeReN1> ohh ok i am in
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> levo: then run the command ubottu gave and kill the process given
[14:34] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, Can you suggest anything regarding the bluetooth device ? I cant get it to work anyhow on my 12.10 setup
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue      do you see outputs?
[14:35] <gray--> if i wanted to downgrade a version of software, eg squirrelmail, i know i can do apt-get install squirrelmail="$version", but how do i find out what $version is?  current version is '2:1.4.23~svn20120406-1'
[14:36] <gray--> so from that, how do i work out the previous version name?
[14:36] <gray--> i've found this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/squirrelmail/
[14:36] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, Yes, there are several lines
[14:36] <gray--> but i just can't seem to suss it :)
[14:37] <TaMpeReN1> Does anyone uses anyone uses RabbitSvn?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:37] <kang_> does anyone know a tool like ultramon, move a cursor between dual screen with a shortcut? (gnome-shell)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kang_: look into synergy
[14:37] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, its Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[14:38] <kang_> ActionParsnip, i will try it. thx. :)
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kang_: doesn't need a shortcut either
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: does the system have a make and model?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: do you dual boot the system?
[14:39] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, Yes it is a dual boot machine with windows 7 and 12.10. Particularly, Sony Vaio, E series
[14:40] <Stdedos> may I disable these deamons into VM?  hybrid-gfx / tty# / wait-for-state
[14:40] <chronicle> Guys speak again soon....nice afdternoon to everyone
[14:41] <chronicle> :)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: in windows device manager, set the bluetooth to not be power managed and disable it's ability to wake up the system
[14:41] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, Alright, I'll try that.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: also make sure you have the latest BIOS
[14:42] <WhiteHorse> \join #laravel
[14:43] <kang_> ActionParsnip, i only use one system, can be use it? the intro show a difreent system.  my envrionment: 1920x1080+1200x1600 with one pc. bad english :(
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> WhiteHorse: and if there is a hard switch to enable / disable bluetooth, switch it on
[14:43] <kjdigh> hello everyone. For my work I have to make a syslog-ng server to centralize every logs. I though it was ok but now, I can see that I don't have every logs, for example, apache, mysql, apt, boot are not sent to the server. I think I would add source in the syslog-ng local config file in order to send more logs but I'm not sure how proceed
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> kang_: it is cross platform, so you can have mac, linux and windows all controlled by one mouse and one keyboard
[14:44] <WhiteHorse> ActionParsnip, there is a hardware button for wireless connectivity, it manages both the WiFi and Bluetooth devices. usually it is turned on.
[14:44] <TaMpeReN1> anyone can tell me how to connect pidgin to facebook?
[14:45] <Stdedos> may I disable these deamons into VM?  hybrid-gfx / tty# / wait-for-state
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/  maybe....
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> TaMpeRen: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pidgin+facebook+chat   is all I did.
[14:48] <Stdedos> may I disable these deamons into VM?  hybrid-gfx / tty# / wait-for-state
[14:49] <kang_> ActionParsnip, thx a lot. it resolve my problem :)
[14:49] <astalavista12> Transmission bittorrent stopped working in my Ubuntu. Bittorrent works fine in windows 7 from the same laptop. No error messages. Any ideas?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> kang_: sweet
[14:51] <tonsofpcs> The ubuntu pastebin service requires a login to download text?  So I can't use it to wget a file on a server without a web browser? really?!?!?!
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> astalavista12: do you get web access under ubuntu>
[14:51] <theadmin> tonsofpcs: Yeah.
[14:51] <astalavista12> action: yes, i do
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> tonsofpcs: there are hundreds of pastebin services......
[14:51] <astalavista12> i am using a ubuntu session right now
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> astalavista12: do other clients show the same behaviour?
[14:52] <tonsofpcs> ActionParsnip: yes, but pastebinit is written to work with the ubuntu pastebin service now....
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> tonsofpcs: you can change the server
[14:53] <tonsofpcs> theadmin: I find this silly, since with a web browser I can just select and copy out the data ..
[14:53] <astalavista12> Action: no,  only this one
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> astalavista12: i'd try others, see if it affects them all
[14:54] <astalavista12> Action: ok, I will check, cheers
[14:55] <theadmin> tonsofpcs: Yeah well, use some other one. sprunge, hastebin etc.
[14:56] <theadmin> I don't quite get what's the point of having to log in for that as well
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> tonsofpcs: you can use the web browser as you are already logged into Launchpad
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> tis silly though
[14:57] <K1rk> Ever since CUPS was updated automatically on my print server (I suspect by unattended-upgrades), I am having issues.  How can I roll back that update?
[14:58] <theadmin> K1rk: Downgrading isn't supported by APT. You can try to apt-get install packagename=version, but you'd have to do that for every package yourself, plus that will only work if the old version is still in the repos or cache
[14:58] <tonsofpcs> ActionParsnip: you can get the whole text without logging in if you have a web browser.  If you don't have a web browser, you can't login .'. you can't get the whole text....
[14:59] <K1rk> theadmin, okay I'll take a look at that, thanks
[15:00] <theadmin> K1rk: You can also use APT pinning, I guess
[15:01] <Stdedos> may I disable these deamons into VM?  hybrid-gfx / wait-for-state
[15:02] <Omen_20> Hi. This is a technical question, but does anyone think it could be possible in the future for Ubuntu to run between multiple CPUs? They've shown off the ability for Ubuntu to dock, but that's always from it running on one CPU in the phone/tablet. Would it be possible for Ubuntu to divide work between say an ARM and x86? They're not only two CPUs, but different architectures. My reason for asking is the ASUS Transformer AIO.
[15:02] <Faris> Hi. I'm about to install ubuntu 12.04 on my samsung laptop. The model I'm using has a known efi malfunction that can lead to permanent brick. Is there a way to install Ubuntu 12.04 without EFI module ?
[15:02] <kjdigh> hello everyone. For my work I have to make a syslog-ng server to centralize every logs. I though it was ok but now, I can see that I don't have every logs, for example, apache, mysql, apt, boot are not sent to the server. I think I would add source in the syslog-ng local config file in order to send more logs but I'm not sure how proceed
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> tonsofpcs: you did log in, just a while ago. The launchpad login is remembered
[15:03] <K1rk> Hey theadmin ... I am looking through some of my old DPKG logs... is this normal?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593320/
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> tonsofpcs: if you log out of launchpad and close your browser then hit the page, you will need to relogin
[15:03] <theadmin> K1rk: Seems fine to me
[15:03] <K1rk> Why is it unpacking the same package over and over and over?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> K1rk: its probably slightly differently named
[15:04] <lcabreza1> need help remove partial upgrade. i want to stick to 12.04. how do i do that ?
[15:05] <bean> lcabreza1, if you already started the upgrade theres nothing you can do, likely.
[15:06] <K1rk> ActionParsnip, we don't automatically upgrade anything... we do not have cron-apt or anything else installed.  Is this unattended-upgrades doing this?  That's the only thing I can come up with.
[15:07] <artrei> so i purged unity and compiz from 12.10 before, can i reinstall it again?
[15:08] <selena20131> hello
[15:08] <jrib> artrei: sure, why not
[15:08] <acalvo> Hello. I'm trying to set up an unattended installation, but after loading the preseed file (either by URL or by kernel parameter) it just boot and show the installation dialog. Anyone has worked with that in the past and has an example/tutorial? Thanks
[15:08] <artrei> jrib, would it just work like default again?
[15:08] <jrib> artrei: it should.  Just install ubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <artrei> thanks jrib
[15:10] <lcabreza1> bean: there must be another way .
[15:10] <escott> Faris, you should not be booting EFI with that system at all
[15:11] <selena20131> EFI is for new computers
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> K1rk: is it still going>
[15:20] <coolroot> does anyone got a good IPtables? and how to change my iptables? or first let me ask where to find the iptables i got on my distro? i got ubuntu 12.04 here thanx :)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | coolroot
[15:28] <K1rk> ActionParsnip, is what still going?  unattended upgrades??
[15:29] <Bennyz> Hello
[15:29] <elrazad> hello too
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> K1rk: the unpacking of the packages etc..
[15:30] <K1rk> It looks like there was an issue with one of the upgrades (cups) with a config file question
[15:30] <K1rk> It was partially installed...
[15:30] <K1rk> running dpkg --configure -a has returned me to the prompts, which i interacted with as needed
[15:30] <K1rk> I suspect this may resolve our issues....they may have stemmed from the package being partly installed.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> K1rk: could reinstall the package that was having issues
[15:30] <Bennyz> I installed ubuntu using the windows installer. And for some reason it won't accept my password. Is there a way to reset it? I've looked up a way, but it requires some GRUB screen which I can't access
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 can you log in there?
[15:32] <msh210> Hi all. I'm running quantal. I wish to install mtop ( http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/mtop.1p.html for lucid) but don't know whether it exists for quantal or how to install it. (I've only ever installed anything using apt-get.) Can anyone help me, please?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !find mtop
[15:33] <Bennyz> ActionParsnip: where should I press it?
[15:34] <holstein> Bennyz: can you press it anywhere? and login?
[15:34] <holstein> !tty | Bennyz this is where you will be trying to login from
[15:34] <Bennyz> Oh, I'm on Windows right now
[15:35] <Bennyz> I can login using guest login
[15:35] <msh210> ActionParsnip: If that was supposed to help me, I don't see how. Any clarification you could provide would be most appreciated.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: on the login screen, or in the desktop, anywhere really
[15:36] <Bennyz> I'm gonna have to restart for this, I'll get back in a minute
[15:36] <holstein> Bennyz: if you can login in a tty session then the issue is not the password.. we can look into your user config
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> msh210: Deleted in natty-release on 2013-03-05 (Reason: LP: #729414)
[15:38] <n0depoisen> hi i need a pluggable pope on a personal jeezbus installation
[15:38] <n0depoisen> how can i do this with ubuntu
[15:38] <n0depoisen> apt-get jeezbus dont work
[15:39] <Pici> n0depoisen: Try ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> n0depoisen: jeezbus isn't an option of apt-get
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> n0depoisen: if you are going to troll, at least get it RIGHT
[15:39] <yellowmans> help s.o.s.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: wassup
[15:40] <n0depoisen> apt-get install jeezbus
[15:40] <n0depoisen> thts what i think i typed
[15:40] <yellowmans> hey i have a problem my notebook say error: disk out of space grub rescue>
[15:40] <msh210> ActionParsnip: pffft. You don't happen to know a way to install it anyway?
[15:40] <msh210> on quantal I mean
[15:40] <n0depoisen> where can i find my personal jeezbus deb package?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> msh210: could download the deb and install it, not sure about deps though
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | n0depoisen
[15:41] <Touhou11> !ppa-purge
[15:41] <Touhou11> !addppa
[15:41] <msh210> ActionParsnip Touhou11 thanks
[15:41] <holstein> msh210: maybe you can find a current package to do what you need.. what are you trying to do?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: I suggest you boot to liveCD and mount your partition then clear out some space. You could even chroot and uninstall old kernels etc
[15:42] <yellowmans> actionparsnip thank you, i tried installing 10.04 a couple of times
[15:42] <msh210> holstein see how long individual mysql queries are taking and where they're up to
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: lucid is EOL next month, I wouldn't waste any time on it
[15:43] <yellowmans> it had a runing ubuntu version, then crashed when uprgrading
[15:43] <holstein> yellowmans: you can save your data out from a live CD, and fresh install if thats easier
[15:44] <yellowmans> actionparsnip i was told to try it, to see if the notebook can handle anything else
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: Xubuntu is nice and light :)
[15:44] <Bennyz> ActionParsnip: I couldn't login using tty :( it's still saying my password is incorrect
[15:45] <Bennyz> And how do I leave this tty?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: if after you get to the OS selection screen, is there a way to add boot options there, anything at the bottom of the screen etc?
[15:45] <holstein> !tty | Bennyz this states how to get in and out
[15:45] <K1rk> ben1066, ctrl+alt+f6 f7?
[15:45] <jil> hi
[15:45] <K1rk> I always forget which
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: CTRL+ALT+F7
[15:46] <holstein> alt+f7 will get you back
[15:46] <Bennyz> I only have something related to windows diagnostics
[15:46] <yellowmans> actionparsnip i read that i could try installing an 10.04 alternative
[15:46] <Bennyz> (In the OS selection screen)
[15:46] <jil> How can I get rid of the all keyboard shortcuts starting with ALT?  I'm using emacs and gnome opens a menu when I press for exemple ALT+E... I don't want that
[15:46] <holstein> Bennyz: there are recovery options at boot... under the current kernel option in grub
[15:47] <jil> I cannot find how to disable menu activation by alt in the system keyboard short cuts...
[15:47] <holstein> Bennyz: looks a lot like this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[15:47] <yellowmans> actionparsnip i will follow your advice, could you tell me what version should i try
[15:47] <holstein> yellowmans: xubuntu 12.04
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: xubuntu 12.04   it is LTS
[15:48] <Bennyz> holstein: I don't know how to access this screen
[15:48] <yellowmans> ok thank  you, then i should force shut down notebook wille in grub rescue> nothing works
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> yellowmans: your partitions aren't mounted so it should be ok
[15:49] <yellowmans> thank you
[15:50] <holstein> Bennyz: from the link i gave, near the top of the instructions "If you have a single-boot (Ubuntu is the only operating system on your computer), to get the boot menu to show, you have to hold down the Shift key during bootup."
[15:50] <Bennyz> I don't have a single boot :\
[15:51] <Bennyz> I installed ubuntu using the windows installer
[15:51] <holstein> Bennyz: try the shift key if you see no grub options at boot
[15:51] <Bennyz> The shift key didn't work as well
[15:52] <holstein> Bennyz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1041232 comes up when i search
[15:52] <jil> How can one stop the ALT+... to open the menus??  in 12.04?  It's catching my emacs shortcuts?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> jil: you can change the shortcut for HUD if that's what you mean?
[15:53] <jrib> jil: in your terminal?
[15:53] <holstein> jil: in unity? in ubuntu 12.10? i would look at the keyboard options and see if the shortcuts are there and can be remapped
[15:53] <Faris> Which one is recommended : ia32-libs or multiarch support ?
[15:53] <Bennyz> holstein: the grub thing doesn't prompt
[15:53] <jrib> Faris: ia32-libs just uses installs a bunch of multiarch packages now
[15:53] <jrib> s/uses//
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: yes, but when you get teh choice of OS at boot, is there additional text which implies how you can do additional things
[15:54] <jil> in my gnome desktop on ubuntu 12.04... it's not amoung the system/keyboard shortcuts
[15:54] <jrib> jil: are you using xemacs or emacs in a terminal?
[15:54] <jil> ALT+E will also send me to the menu when I'm in the terminal
[15:54] <Bennyz> ActionParsnip: Yes, I can press tab and then choose that windows diagnostics thing
[15:54] <Faris> jrib: What's the most frugal way to run 32-bit binaries in a 64-bit system ?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: so if you hover over the Ubuntu option and hit F8, you don't get additional options?
[15:55] <jil> jrib xemacs but it does the same if I have the terminal open in the gnome env.
[15:55] <jrib> Faris: frugal in what sense?  I think multiarch is the way you should do it...
[15:55] <Bennyz> ActionParsnip: nope
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: http://www.ict.kth.se/courses/IS1500/2011/swsetup/wubipix/08-boot-screen.jpg   you sure, read below the red text......
[15:56] <Faris> jrib: Thanks!
[15:56] <jrib> jil: well in the terminal, you can just hit "edit → keyboard shortcuts" and disable the accelerators.  For xemacs, you probably need to change gtk2 or gtk3 settings and disable accelerators
[15:57] <holstein> Bennyz: you are looking for that boot option, for recovery.. where do you choose ubuntu? can you hit escape or shift as the links i gave suggest?
[15:57] <Bennyz> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure I don't have it, but I'll try again to be sure
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz: or anyting similar really
[15:58] <jil> jrib, in the keyboard shortcut does not permit disabling the ALT to focus on the menu... although I looked for it that's the problem.
[15:58] <Bennyz> holstein: in the screen that appears in ActionParsnip's link
[15:58] <Bennyz> brb
[15:59] <jrib> jil: when you go to "keyboard shortcuts" from the "edit" menu in gnom-terminal, you should have "enable menu access keys" as the first checkbox
[15:59] <idrofox> Do ubuntu 12.10 use unity as default gui ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: it uses Unity shell, yes
[15:59] <idrofox> Thanks
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: on Gnome desktop with Compiz as the window manager
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: you can change it as you wish, or install xubuntu or kubuntu if you prefer those desktops etc
[16:00] <azrad> hi, I'm a retard; I've messed up my video settings/driver and now I can't get resolutions above 1024x768 using nvidia card
[16:00] <idrofox> ok thx i just want to know cuz i am looking to install extension or widgets
[16:00] <holstein> azrad: you could elaborate about how you messed it up
[16:01] <bazhang> idrofox, gnome-shell has extensions
[16:01] <holstein> idrofox: ubuntu uses unity by default, and has access to other desktop environments by default as well
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> azrad: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:01] <oliverp> I just upgraded my ubuntu box with a new motherboard, and now my (new) network interface is called eth1 instead of eth0 (as my network interface was named with the older motherboard). How do I change it so that it's called eth0 again?
[16:01] <cornfeedhobo> good morning guys. i am having some troubles getting my new displaylink adaptor working.  has anyone here used them??
[16:01] <Bennyz_> ActionParsnip: I checked. I only have the F8 for windows, nothing for Ubuntu
[16:02] <jil> jrib, OK great! I had forgotten about this solution. Thanks. I'll just use emacs in the terminal now.  cheers and thx jrib++
[16:02] <azrad> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:02] <jil> jrib++
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Bennyz_: hmm, if you hit ENTER on Ubuntu the immediately hold SHIFT do you get options?
[16:02] <Bennyz_> ActionParsnip: But now I noticed I get an error before ubuntu starts "can't read /proc/mounts/ File or directory missing"
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> azrad: and the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[16:02] <oliverp> How do I rename eth1 to eth0?
[16:02] <Bennyz_> Is it possible it has something to do with it?
[16:02] <MsCourtney> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu on an Intel Express Cache mSata ssd. This gave me an option to boot ''Ubuntu'' in EFI setup which I used to boot Ubuntu. After changing some settings it only detects ''Windows Boot manager'' and I cannot boot to Ubuntu.
[16:03] <azrad> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1183 (rev a1)
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> oliverp: http://www.banym.de/linux/centos/change-network-device-name-from-eth1-back-to-eth0
[16:03] <jrib> jil: for the gtk settings, I used to do this by adding "gtk-enable-accels = 0" to ~/.gtkrc-2.0. You may also need to do something related to gtk3 now though (I'm not sure). The file for gtk3 is ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[16:03] <micw> hi
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> azrad: do you know the nvidia chip by any chance?
[16:03] <oliverp> ActionParsnip: thank you!
[16:03] <idrofox> so, how do i add widgets on desktop such as cpu monitor, ram monitor etc in unity and where to find them ?
[16:03] <micw> do i need --metadata=0.9 for a rayd from which ubuntu should boot?
[16:03] <jrib> jil: and if you wanted to only do it for the xemacs window, I think that's possible too but I don't know the syntax offhand
[16:03] <micw> raid
[16:04] <micw> or will recent grub's boot from newer metatada raids?
[16:04] <cornfeedhobo> is there a good reason xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is not in the quantal repo?????
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> oliverp: all I did was websearch....
[16:04] <cornfeedhobo> is it not needed anymore??
[16:04] <azrad> ActionParsnip, the card is gtx 660 ti, but I don't think that is what your asking?
[16:04] <oliverp> ActionParsnip: sorry :-(
[16:05] <cornfeedhobo> is there a good reason xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is not in the quantal repo?????
[16:05] <nacitar> on 12.10 i can't get seahorse to change the login keyring's password; it gives no error, but changing the password to blank (like I want) doesn't work... if I try to unlock it, it expects the old password still
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> azrad: sue, what did you do to cause the issue
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> oliverp: its cool, there are lots of guides around. If you try those then use here if you turn up blank :)
[16:06] <jil> jrib ok
[16:07] <azrad> ActionParsnip, well i was messing around with something called bumblebee and well it put me into an 800x600 resolution (only option on display settings), i purged bumblebee, and tried to reinstall the nvidia current, now i'm up to 1024x768 on dispaly screen, also under additional drivers it says nvidia-current installed but not in use
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> azrad: do you use a switching GPU?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> azrad: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU?
[16:09] <Pici> cornfeedhobo: The publishing history says it is obsolete and unsupported *shrug*: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-displaylink/+publishinghistory
[16:09] <OerHeks> !find xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[16:10] <azrad> ActionParsnip, i don't know what a switching gpu is, but i ran that command and it only listed one display, *-display UNCLAIMED
[16:10] <azrad>        description: VGA compatible controller
[16:10] <azrad>        product: NVIDIA Corporation (more stuff)
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> azrad: then why are you installing bumblebee when you only have the nvidia GPU?
[16:11] <azrad> ActionParsnip, cuz i'm retarded :(
[16:11] <cornfeedhobo> Pici: OerHeks: thank you
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> azrad: remove the bumblebee packages and any pckages with nvidia in the name (but not nvidia-common) and reboot
[16:11] <belgianguy> after all these years, I found out "Ctrl + r" lets you search your command line history
[16:11] <azrad> ActionParsnip, ok thanks i'll try that
[16:11] <belgianguy> (thanks Hacker News)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> azrad: I suggest you research a little before you start throwing packages like that on your OS
[16:12] <belgianguy> I used to just press the up arrow
[16:12] <azrad> ActionParsnip, yeah i think that is good advise :(
[16:12] <Bennyz_> ActionParsnip: Do you think the "mount: can't read /proc/mounts: No such file or directory" could be related?
[16:13] <layke> How do I remove old kernals and clear up some diskspace, so that don't show up when I first boot?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> layke: run:   uname -a    this is the current kernel
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> layke: run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image      these are the installed kernels
[16:14] <idrofox> should i use conky in ubuntu 12.10 for widgets ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> layke: you can remove any amount of kernels but NOT the running kernel, and NOT the one which doesn't have version numbers in the package name
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: if you want
[16:15] <cornfeedhobo> Pici: so i have to speak with the dude that removed it?? it doesnt say how its obsolete
[16:15] <layke> ActionParsnip, Thanks. Would I use dpkg to remove as well?
[16:16] <layke> Also, I fixed that issue an hour+ ago about messing up with my /etc/sudoers. I booted to recovery mode, endable networking to get write enabled, and booted to shell. I then removed the bad line and saved.
[16:16] <layke> However, now when I start up, I jump straight to shell.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> layke: use apt-get
[16:16] <layke> It doesn't launch my GUI. I am using kubuntu, if that matters?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> layke: if you see any that start 'rc' instead of 'ii'   you can use:   sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.x.x.x-generic     (obviosly yours will be different) to purge the old settings and clear them from the list
[16:17] <layke> They are all ii
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> layke: if you get lost; just clear the terminal and rerun the first 2 commands :)
[16:18] <layke> Yeah, I'm following everythign you said to remove the old kernals. :)
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> layke: I recommend keeping the running kernel as well as the one before, just in case
[16:19] <layke> And presumably, if I have say Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1, I can edit grub.cfg to edit this out, and rm -rf /dev/sda1 ?? (I don't know how /dev/ works so not sure?)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> layke: no need, the post uninstall removes it from grub for you
[16:19] <layke> I've definitely nuked the partition that Windows was previously installed on, so I can clear it out.
[16:20] <layke> Yeah, but I mean, grub (I guess) auto detected a windows bootloader, and inserted it itself?
[16:20] <layke> But that should be removed, since it's leftover, old and doesn't work?
[16:20] <azrad> ActionParsnip, heheh thanks again, that fixed me right up!
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> layke: you may find grub drops the boot, you can always remove it in the grub config but you don't touch grub.cfg as it is generated
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> azrad: you only need bumblebee if you have a switchable GPU
[16:21] <layke> Okay. Thanks for that tip. That's how I got in trouble with the /etc/sudoers in the first place!
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> azrad: you can now install the nvidia driver as you wish
[16:21] <azrad> ActionParsnip, yeah, i really goofed, thanks for screwed my head back on straight, later guys
[16:22] <layke> Do you have any idea on that previous point I asked? I'm not sure why I boot to shell on my latest linux version now? 3.2.0 is what I've been using for the last month or so.. I screwed up the /etc/sudoers and then fixed it
[16:22] <layke> Now when I boot, I only get shell, and no GUI
[16:22] <user99999> hello
[16:22] <user99999> please help mouse dpi setting
[16:22] <layke> I'll just try and reinstall ubuntu-desktop or kde-full
[16:23] <user99999> xorg.conf -->     Option "Resolution" "2000"
[16:25] <ffk27> layke: dont touch grub.cfg only use the /etc/default/grub and the /etc/grub.d/ files and update-grub2
[16:25] <layke> Yeah I wont
[16:26] <ffk27> if windows doesen't exist and you want to remove in from the grub list then is update-grub enouch
[16:27] <layke> Seems to keep finding the Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1, (I guess it's just the bootloader). I don't have windows lying around.
[16:27] <layke> WOuld it be safe to r, -rf /dev/sda1 ?
[16:27] <ffk27> no
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> layke: that won't work
[16:28] <ffk27> you want to add the space to your linux partition?
[16:28] <layke> Nah, I'll just leave it I think. I'm more trying to understand than get space.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ffk27: its showing up in update-grub as a dual boot when there is no OS present
[16:28] <layke> I'm sure whatever is in it is negligible.
[16:28] <layke> It's just annoying me, when I see Windows 7 every time I boot.
[16:29] <ffk27> layke just use a user friendly tool like gparted to delete /dev/sda1
[16:29] <layke> Thanks
[16:31] <user99999> ...
[16:31] <layke> Done :)
[16:31] <layke> No Windows anymore.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> layke: ok, run:  sudo update-grub   after closing gparted
[16:31] <layke> Yup. Done that.
[16:31] <ffk27> so the ntfs parition was still readable
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> layke: all ok
[16:32] <nagchampa> so, i was having problems the other day with my sound popping and freezing, and i'd thought it was pulseaudio
[16:32] <layke> Cheers. Yeah. I'm not all to clear on what they are... but it was only 100mb in size.
[16:32] <nagchampa> i've tried installing lubuntu instead, which doesn't use pulseaudio, and i'm still getting the same problems, so i'm thinking it's actually a problem with alsa
[16:32] <nagchampa> so, how hard is it to convert from alsa to oss4?
[16:33] <layke> Going to try and get my GUI working now.
[16:33] <BluesKaj> nagchampa, why do you want to use OSS instead of alsa ?
[16:34] <ffk27> nagchampa your sound doesen't work at all?
[16:34] <ffk27> or bad quality
[16:35] <BluesKaj> nagchampa, it could be your hardware that causing the noises , aamof that sounds like a connection problem
[16:35] <St34LTH> i have a couple of dumb questions, why would rsyslog need a database, if its saving the logs to a file?
[16:35] <user99999> :S
[16:36] <jiffe98> anyone running ubuntu on supermicro servers?  Mine seem to freeze during the boot process and if I hard reset it, the second time works
[16:37] <Layke> And that's all done now right? http://pastie.org/private/n9amkdobyicvg4bf3u7iaw
[16:37] <Layke> I'm actually on 12.04 now, but I see "Found Ubuntu 11.10" is still in thr grub.cfg
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Layke, run sudo update-grub
[16:38] <ffk27> he just did that
[16:39] <Layke> Yup. I did that at the top. :)
[16:39] <BluesKaj> ok , should have scrolled up
[16:39] <Layke> Also, http://pastie.org/private/oee0cybnmuzeciusrt2xtw is the list of linux-image
[16:39] <ffk27> layke whats your question?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Layke, what does your grub menu show ?
[16:41] <nagchampa> hrm, why does software-properties-gtk require alsa-utils?
[16:41] <nagchampa> that is, when i try to remove alsa-utils it also wants to remove software-properties-gtk
[16:42] <nagchampa> oh, it depends on ubuntu-drivers-common
[16:42] <nagchampa> for some reason
[16:42] <ffk27> yes dpkg is sometimes weird
[16:42] <nagchampa> why does software-properties-gtk depend on ubuntu-drivers-common?
[16:43] <coolroot_> what's in port 443? why is it my chromium browser is working at port 443? isn't browsers are in port 80!?
[16:43] <llutz> coolroot_: https
[16:43] <Layke> BluesKaj, I'll restart in a second again. (I already restarted once, and It still had things which I removed)
[16:43] <nagchampa> coolroot_: https is 443
[16:43] <K1rk> coolroot_, browsers can use any port you tell them to :P http is traditionally 80 but https is traditionally 443
[16:43] <coolroot_> oh i see i forgot it's the secured one my fault thanx :)
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Layke, have you updated/upgraded lately?
[16:46] <user99999> ubuntu mouse dpi setting?
[16:46] <user99999> link pls
[16:46] <zteam> Hi all!
[16:47] <user99999> hi
[16:47] <mtadyshak> How would I port the bashism $BASH_SOURCE to dash?  This gives the directory wher the executable is located independennt of the path from which the shell script was invoked.
[16:47] <zteam> I just upgrade Libreoffice to version 4, anybody knows where I can find a swedish langugage pack for that version?
[16:48] <Cenerentolo> i've a problem with adobe flash "camera not detected"; some fix?
[16:48] <mtadyshak> There is a #bash IRC channel on freenode but no #dash.
[16:48] <Cenerentolo> with cheese it's ok
[16:49] <zteam> Cenerentolo, visit a flash page, right-clicke on that page inside the flash area and select settings
[16:49] <zteam> Cenerentolo, there Make sure flash has access to your webcam
[16:53] <user99999> how to change mouse dpi?
[16:54] <ffk27> user99999 you have 12.04?
[16:54] <user99999> yes
[16:55] <ffk27> do gnome-control-center in the terminal
[16:55] <ffk27> you find mouse and touchpad settings there
[16:56] <ffk27> edit the mouse acceleration
[16:56] <OltreIrc`41830> ciao
[16:56] <OltreIrc`41830> !list
[16:56] <selena20131> using pidgin irc chat enable awesome
[16:57] <mtadyshak>  How would I port the bashism $BASH_SOURCE to dash?  This gives the directory where the executable is located independent of the path from which the shell script was invoked.  No #dash IRC channel on freenode.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zteam: I'd post on the libreoffice forum as well
[16:57] <user99999> acceleration = dpi?:D
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> mtadyshak: add the folder where the binary is located to your PATH variable
[16:58] <zteam> ActionParsnip, okey, you got any answeres?
[16:58] <Quincy6> Can I make private cloud if I have 2 efficient dedicated servers and 1 VPS? Is it worth?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Quincy6: if you need the functionality, why not :)
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Quincy6: if anything, for the experience
[16:59] <coolroot_> is it possible to make my 12.04 ubuntu to monitor my desktop pc running win7? but the problem is that my laptop is using wireless connection while my desktop run thru lan cable :(
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> coolroot_: nagios is a great monitoring tool
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> coolroot_: the physical media is moot
[17:00] <Quincy6> I heard I should have at least 8 (physical?) machines to do private cloud.
[17:00] <St34LTH> *bump*\
[17:01] <acalvo>  has anyone used preseeding?
[17:01] <SuperLag> Question. I've installed Oracle Java 6 & 7. Used update-alternatives to get it registered, so to speak. If I install another package which has openjdk as a dependency, will that take over?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Quincy6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[17:02] <maxim__> hi, guys
[17:02] <maxim__> who want paid proxy?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: i don't believe it will set itself as the active java, but it can be installed
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> maxim__: that is offtopic here
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Quincy6: you can do it with just one then add more later, that's the point of cloud :)
[17:03] <hdd1> Hello, im currentrly using ubuntu-server 12.04 with kernel 3.5.0-generic into a msi 970g46 with a amd 8150 proc and 16Gb ram with a kvm. I installed the gnome-core so i can have gnome-classic (failsafe). It works fine. but if i enable the autologin option, x does not start. Also if i push x with startx, i et an error: xkbcomp report: warning type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 leves, but RALT hast 2 symbols ignoring extra symbol, errors from xkbcom
[17:03] <hdd1> any help to fix no x with autologin?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> hdd1: install lightdm and you'll have an easier time, or slim or xdm or some other login manager
[17:04] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: bah. It did take over.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: grrr, maybe because its a new package
[17:04] <CazyArsMut> hello?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> hi CazyArsMut
[17:05] <CazyArsMut> why cant i join romms on the network list of xchat?
[17:05] <CazyArsMut> hi ActionParsnip
[17:05] <hdd1> ActionParsnip: the problem is that aint good in a server
[17:05] <hdd1> less is more
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> hdd1: then use fluxbox and add the command to start fluxbox in rc.local
[17:06] <CazyArsMut> ActionParsnip, is this the ubuntu help chat?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> CazyArsMut: yes
[17:07] <CazyArsMut> ok, i'm in the right room
[17:07] <CazyArsMut> lemme try something
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> hdd1: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/e5z8652/weblog/24
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> hdd1: I recommend you install lubuntu in future
[17:09] <CazyArsMut> oh, it is because there is noone in the room :(
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> CazyArsMut: sure there are, lots of people
[17:11] <hdd1> ActionParsnip: that aint the problem, i can live without x but my boss cannt
[17:11] <hdd1> thats why i need to fix gnome-classic
[17:11] <CazyArsMut> right ActionParsnip there is noone in chatting away and chat junkies
[17:12] <CazyArsMut> but thatnks - you know any rooms that have alot of literary people in theem?
[17:12] <bazhang> !alis | CazyArsMut
[17:12] <zteam> ActionParsnip, I found the packages needed for Libreoffice here
[17:13] <zteam> ActionParsnip, hower dpkg wont install them
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> zteam: can you pastebin the dpkg commands you are using and their output please
[17:14] <CazyArsMut> thanks bazhang  and ubottu  but i dont know what do do with that yet
[17:14] <CazyArsMut> where do i get the list? ubottu
[17:14] <bazhang> CazyArsMut, /join #freenode
[17:14] <CazyArsMut> i did
[17:14] <CazyArsMut> bazhang,
[17:18] <alsocan> quit
[17:19] <zteam> ActionParsnip, yes sure
[17:19] <zteam> :)
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> zteam: you need to paste the URL in the channel
[17:21] <carlo> ciao
[17:21] <carlo> lista
[17:21] <nagchampa> BluesKaj: the hardware works fine in windows
[17:21] <blindrage> I'm having an odd issue...if i try to mount a drive '# mount /dev/sdb1 /media/storage' i get 'mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage/ busy'...same as if i try to mount it anywhere....yet '# mount | grep sdb' shows nothing... http://fpaste.org/vueO/
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: try:     nautils /media/storage    do you see your data?
[17:22] <zteam> ActionParsnip, There you gohttp://pastebin.com/H8aK1m9Z
[17:22] <nagchampa> i get sound in linux, but anything cpu intensive (even scrolling in some apps) will cause my sound to pop and crackle, and if it gets too much, the sound stops all together, and only starts again if i close everything accessing the sound device
[17:22] <blindrage> ls /media/storage returns nothing
[17:22] <Quincy6> I have a little trouble understanding what private cloud is. It is a something that makes and manages VMs? It splits tasks to those VMs? These tasks from what I understand can be splitted to other physical hosts, because this is the cloud, but can I host games on cloud?
[17:22] <caraes-seyer> bonjour
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:23] <zteam> ActionParsnip, sorry http://pastebin.com/H8aK1m9Z
[17:23] <rypervenche> blindrage: Try "lsof | grep '/dev/sdb1'
[17:23] <nagchampa> anyway, i couldn;'t remove alsa from ubuntu cleanly so i'm gonna go back to gentoo and compile my system without dependency on alsa
[17:23] <rypervenche> blindrage: With sudo actually.
[17:23] <blindrage> nothing
[17:23] <blindrage> i'm root for doing this
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: ok, run:  lsb_release -sc     what is output please?
[17:23] <blindrage> Final
[17:24] <rypervenche> blindrage: Try "lsof | grep storage" Anything?
[17:24] <zteam> ActionParsnip, I assume you are from sweden? otherwise I may translate my error messages
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> zteam: the web has translators :)
[17:24] <blindrage> rype nothing relevent, some apache-mime4j-storage matches
[17:24] <rypervenche> blindrage: and "mount | grep storage" ?
[17:25] <zteam> ActionParsnip, true that :-)
[17:25] <zteam> ActionParsnip, where are u from anyway? :-)
[17:25] <blindrage> rype nothing relevent, some apache-mime4j-storage matches
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> zteam: UK
[17:25] <zteam> ActionParsnip, okey :-)
[17:25] <blindrage> action: Final
[17:26] <MHK> can someone tell me how to enable visual effects in 11.04? i am getting a message saying DESKTOP EFFECTS CANNOT BE ENABLED
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: so it's CentOS?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> MHK: Natty is no longer supported
[17:26] <blindrage> yea, but it's a linux issue most likely, don't think the flavor is the problem
[17:26] <zteam> MHK, ,what graphics card u have?
[17:26] <blindrage> help is help
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: CentOS has it's own channel for support
[17:26] <bazhang> blindrage, #centos
[17:27] <blindrage> yea but different people think differently
[17:27] <bazhang> blindrage, its hot supported here, no
[17:27] <blindrage> ok it's ubuntu
[17:27] <blindrage> i lied
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> blindrage: yes, thats why there are so many channels, one for each release
[17:27] <bazhang> blindrage, no its not
[17:27] <MHK> k..will join #centos
[17:27] <MHK> ty
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> MHK: that was for the other guy
[17:28] <zteam> ActionParsnip, any ideas of my problems?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> MHK: Natty went EOL a long time ago. I recommend a fresh install of Precise which gives support til April 2017
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> zteam: not sure, not sure it's even supported here as its not the debs from the official repos
[17:29] <aleritty> sorry can someone help me with a thermal trouble with my acer aspire 5738z? I have to test the fan. I'm on a freshly installed 12.04
[17:29] <zteam> ActionParsnip, I just wonder, why dpkg tells me "the package is not configured yet"
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> zteam: because it is trying to overwite the english package
[17:29] <hd1> I'm stuck at a "grub rescue>" prompt and can't boot into my system
[17:30] <hd1> I burnt the a rescue key and am trying to boot off that, anyone care to help?
[17:30] <zteam> ActionParsnip, But that packages doesn't even have the same names, right?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> zteam: I know, its a weird one. I'd post on the libreoffice forum, see what they know
[17:32] <zteam> hd1, a quite easy solution is to make a USB-stick and install Boot-Repair and let it do the hard work for you
[17:32] <holstein> !fsck
[17:33] <holstein> hd1: ^^
[17:33] <memememe> Hi, I used ubuntu 10-04.4 server-amd.64 iso to install two servers, the first one got installed with the server kernel but the second one has the generic kernel. Why did this happen and how can i force ubuntu to install only the server kernel. thabks
[17:34] <zteam> hd1, another way, should be by trying with sudo update-grub from a liveusb stick
[17:34] <compdoc> memememe, could be as simple as the type of cpu and mainboard. Using 10-04 is a bad idea, btw
[17:35] <zteam> memememe, Begin to upgrade to a more recent version of Ubuntu like 12.04, 10.04 is very outdated
 <zteam> i know its very outdated. unfortunately, the 3rd party software suite i am using suppotrs onlt 10.04
[17:38] <memememe> is there a way I can tell ubuntu disk to install server kernel instead of generic?
[17:38] <compdoc> is you installed from a server cd, then its a server kernel
[17:39] <compdoc> not that much different
[17:39] <holstein> memememe: i would just read about the difference in the generic vs the server.. you should have the best kernel for your setup. you can search for the server kernel from the pacakge maanger of your choice and install it if needed.. but i wouldnt worry with it
[17:39] <zteam> memememe, hmm... U can install the right kernel with apt-get if you then remove the other one, your system will be forced to use that one.... I guess
 yes i am using 10.04 server cd but it install generic kernel.
[17:40] <holstein> memememe: the generic is fine.. you dont need the server kernel on a server machine
[17:43] <memememe> the problem is that I have a raid controller which ubuntu 10.04 does not support. So I need to load the driver during install and then replace the installed initrd image with the server initrd image I have. If the disk installs generic kernel then I have to make my own initrd image for generic kernel.
[17:44] <qwertyomen> Any advice for an irc noob?
[17:44] <holstein> memememe: then, install the kernel you want.. use the package manager of your choice to install the server kernel, and boot from it.. you canremove the other kernel if you want
[17:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:46] <holstein> !ot | read all channel topics and consider joinging an offtopic channel for a more casual chat experience
[17:46] <holstein> qwertyomen: ^^
[17:47] <Afflicto> Hello everyone. So I installed 12.10 on my old Dell laptop, everything was fine untill I ran all the updates, when I rebooted I have no network devices available. What do I do?
[17:47] <holstein> Afflicto: i would just boot the older kernel and test
[17:49] <hd1> zteam I have made a USB stick
[17:49] <hd1> I just can't boot into the system
[17:50] <Afflicto> holstein: boot the older kernel? do you mean I do a re-install again without updating?
[17:51] <dd__> hello, is it pointless to install fail2ban if i am using ssh keys to login?
[17:52] <CatKiller> dd__: pretty much
[17:52] <holstein> Afflicto: nope.. i mean you reboot, and select the older kernel that worked.. and test.. it should take about 48 seconds to test.. you can tap shift on reboot to see the grub list if its hidden
[17:52] <CatKiller> dd__: Unless you think that the odds are too high
[17:52] <holstein> hd1: did you fsck the drive? did you test the memory?
[17:52] <Afflicto> holstein: oh that's neat. I'll try.
[17:53]  * kalenjohnson waves
[17:53] <dd__> CatKiller: figured. i would still want ufw to locked down ports, right? anything else i should have at a bare minimum?
[17:54] <CatKiller> dd__: ufw?
[17:54] <holstein> !info ufw
[17:54] <dd__> CatKiller: ubuntu's firewall
[17:54] <CatKiller> mhhh interesting
[17:54] <CatKiller> dd__: Well if the machine's going to solely be used as a "ufw", then only SSH seems to be required. My advice would be: Only enable what is required, close the rest.
[17:55] <Afflicto> holstein: I tapped shift with a 0.5 sec interval from the POST but no grub thing :\
[17:55] <mneptok> dd__: i personally use denyhosts. far easier to set up and coinfigure.
[17:55] <mneptok> dd__: and i get a ton of hosts every day that get banned. they can't get in, due to key-only logins, but it's still nice to know they're blacklisted.
[17:55] <mneptok> !info denyhosts
[17:56] <dd__> mneptok: thanks, i'll look into it. the vps i have is really small so i'm trying to keep it light but i want basic security. should i have anything else at minimum?
[17:56] <zteam> hd1, well, good now - open a new Terminal, then type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[17:56] <mneptok> dd__: what services besides sshd do you have running?
[17:56] <CatKiller> mneptok: I noticed anyways that the same IP won't be trying for too long, so even if you didn't ban them you would probably not see that many more attempts
[17:56] <zteam> hd1, then sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[17:56] <dd__> mneptok: it's a webserver: nginx, mysql, php at least
[17:57] <Juest> Hello, Ubuntu one is crashing, im on quantal, im missing packages? the inital installation was done from cd (download canceled) and then i upgraded manually, what do i do?
[17:57] <Juest> im having alot of ABRT messages too
[17:57] <mneptok> dd__: just make sure mysqld accepts connections only from localhost
[17:57] <Pitel> intel atom netbooks are amd64 architecture, right?
[17:57] <holstein> Afflicto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 you can try esc.. dont lose sleep over it.. just try booting the older kernel if doing so is an easy troubleshooting step. if not, start searching "ubuntu 12.10 64bit hardwareID not working" for example.. link a pastebin of lspci here
[17:57] <dd__> mneptok: ok, should nginx be running as its own user?
[17:58] <CatKiller> Pitel: afaik, I think atoms are all 64bit cpus
[17:58] <Juest> "Sorry, Ubuntu has experienced an internal error" and "System problem detected"
[17:58] <CatKiller> Pitel: That is x86_64
[17:58] <hd1> zteam: you're not following here, I'm staring at a 'grub rescue>' prompt
[17:58] <mneptok> dd__: in the best case, yes. don't run anything as root unless you *have* to
[17:58] <Juest> Atoms are not x64, not all of them
[17:58] <Pitel> CatKiller: kthx
[17:58] <CatKiller> Pitel: Might be wrong though as it was pointed above
[17:58] <Juest> dd__: and if apps have own user, they must use their own user
[17:58] <mneptok> dd__: and disable any PHP functions you don't need. especially register_globals
[17:58] <dd__> mneptok: so would all my web files need to be in the nginx group?
[17:59] <Afflicto> holstein: ok I'll check that. I'm gonna brb about 15 min though. thanks!
[17:59] <mneptok> dd__: make them world-readable and that should be fine
[17:59] <zteam> hd1, well you said you have a usb-stick with Ubuntu on it, right?
[17:59] <Juest> guys
[17:59] <Juest> anyone up to help me?
[17:59] <zteam> hd1, then boot from it, then follow what I writed above
[17:59] <dd__> mneptok: cool. for upload folders it would need to be writable for the nginx group though, right?
[18:01] <mneptok> dd__: correct.
[18:01] <daemonoob> anybody get ubuntu to work with a lanier network printer?
[18:01] <daemonoob> :)
[18:01] <Juest> can someone please help me?
[18:01] <holstein> daemonoob: try the wizard
[18:01] <mneptok> !patience Juest
[18:01] <holstein> !ask | Juest
[18:02] <Juest> !F*****
[18:02] <Juest> Please
[18:02] <Juest> it's something annoying
[18:02] <Juest> really
[18:02] <mneptok> Juest: profanity, even obfuscated, is most unwelcome
[18:02] <bazhang> no cursing here Juest
[18:02] <Juest> ABRT popping up
[18:02] <Juest> Hello, Ubuntu one is crashing, im on quantal, im missing packages? the inital installation was done from cd (download canceled) and then i upgraded manually, what do i do?
[18:02] <holstein> Juest: ? this is an official support  channel with volunteers here to help you.. your patience is appreciated
[18:02] <Juest> oh well
[18:02] <Juest> I don't have
[18:02] <dd__> mneptok: thanks for your help
[18:02] <daemonoob> ty holstein
[18:02] <Juest> IT"S URGENT
[18:02] <daemonoob> [moo]
[18:03] <Juest> holstein: ^^
[18:03] <daemonoob> hahahahahahahahaha
[18:03] <mneptok> dd__: np!
[18:03] <bazhang> try #ubuntuone Juest
[18:03] <holstein> Juest: also, try and not put caps, or a bunch of lines here.. just enter everything on one line as the link i provided suggests
[18:03] <daemonoob> stop dancing around in the dandilions and ASK
[18:03] <daemonoob> hahahahaha
[18:03] <bazhang> daemonoob, stop that
[18:04] <holstein> Juest: i would open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and share (pastebin) any errors and we can go from there
[18:04] <Juest>  holstein there's no errors lol
[18:04] <holstein> Juest: lol?
[18:04] <mneptok> Juest: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:04] <holstein> Juest: so, you run "sudo apt-get upate" ? and you see no erro output?
[18:04] <daemonoob> dmesg?
[18:05] <holstein> update*
[18:05] <daemonoob> juest, u check dmesg?
[18:05] <Slotkenov> Let me ask a question: I have problems with suspend on my laptop running 12.04. It suspends fine, but immediately wakes up. Anybody experience in this direction?
[18:05] <Juest> The update works fine
[18:05] <daemonoob> what hardware, Slotkenov?
[18:05] <mikef> in general are qt apps tranferable? i compiled an app on an *buntu 11.10 and copied the binary ovr to another 11.10 but this one had some slight hiccup
[18:06] <zteam> Slotkenov, it's probably your network card that wakes it up again
[18:06] <daemonoob> disable wake on lan
[18:06] <holstein> Slotkenov: yes... i would apply any upgrades.. sometimes i try live CD's and see if any version "just works" out of the box and make a note of kernel versions and graphics drivers and other helpful info
[18:06] <daemonoob> in your bios if possible
[18:06] <holstein> Juest: whats the issue?
[18:07] <Slotkenov> ah, in bios. I'll try disabling wake on lan there. Thanks for the info
[18:07] <daemonoob> yw
[18:08] <Slotkenov> i'll check back on you
[18:09] <Juest> holstein: Ubuntu One is crashing, and i saw many system problem detected and ubuntu experienced an internal error
[18:09] <Juest> actaully
[18:09] <Juest> was a while ago
[18:09] <Juest> sudo apt-get update works great btw
[18:10] <holstein> Juest: try entering *all* information on one line.. not in several seperate ones
[18:10] <Juest> and the install problem is was because i canceled the download
[18:10] <Juest> Well
[18:10] <Juest> Why i have to wait?
[18:10] <Juest> cuz i come here for urgent
[18:10] <bean__> !enter | Juest
[18:10] <Guest8019> How do I re-install the default wifi adapter drivers that came with my system after unsuccessfully trying to install windows drivers for a different adapter using ndis-something...??
[18:10] <holstein> Juest: "here" is filled with volunteers.. its not really for an urgent scenario... what install problem?
[18:11] <Juest> GRRRRR !ubottu
[18:11] <daemonoob> juest, what is your native language? i speak a few, and it might make it easier to communicate
[18:11] <daemonoob> i sense a lang barrries
[18:11] <daemonoob> *barrier
[18:11] <Juest> lol, im from argentina
[18:11] <daemonoob> ok then
[18:11] <holstein> !ot | Juest use the offtopic channels for what you just entered above
[18:11] <Juest> and i feel i get better help with ssh
[18:11] <Juest> lol, no thanks
[18:11] <sweb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/264827/changing-name-server-to-local
[18:11] <Juest> i have an ubuntu support question
[18:11] <sweb> please help me i think i have a simple question
[18:11] <Juest> not ot
[18:12] <daemonoob> pregunta?
[18:12] <daemonoob> dime
[18:12] <holstein> Juest: its not a request.. its a channel guideline
[18:12] <Juest> !ask | sweb
[18:12] <daemonoob> oye, juest... su pregunta, por favor?
[18:12] <hd1> zteam: I'm still stuck at the 'grub rescue>' prompt, ls shows '(hd0) (hd0, msdos5) (hd0, msdos1) (hd1)' this is booting off either the USB key or the hard drive
[18:12] <Juest> daemonoob: Ahi le he respondido, pasemos a privado por favor
[18:12] <holstein> Juest: lets not troubleshoot ubuntu one right now.. whats system errors? can you reproduce them ?
[18:13] <Juest> holstein: I have no ide
[18:13] <Juest> it's just classic abrt
[18:13] <holstein> Juest: ide?
[18:13] <Juest> idea*
[18:13] <daemonoob> bien
[18:13] <holstein> Juest: then, what errors are you speaking of?
[18:13] <Juest> always
[18:13] <Juest> Classic ABRT errors
[18:13] <Juest> "Sorry, Ubuntu has experienced an internal error" and "System problem detected"
[18:14] <Guest8019> I just identified as my nick how do I change to it ? ... I thought it was '/Nick <your nick>' am I wrong??? it's not working
[18:14] <belgianguy> hi, is there any log the graphics driver writes to when it crashes?
[18:14] <holstein> Juest: is that still occuring since the upgrades?
[18:14] <Juest> yes, there always system problem detected
[18:14] <belgianguy> FGLRX's latest beta still doesn't run Team Fortress 2 without crashing after a while :(
[18:14] <iuuso_> I have those all the time, I have no idea why. Personally I think my system has problems with fingerprint-gui put i'm not sure.
[18:15] <Juest> im missing packages here?
[18:15] <Pici> Guest8019: you can ask about irc issues in #freenode, as they run this IRC network.
[18:15] <holstein> Juest: i would test the hardware then.. test the hard drive, and the memory.. if you were missing packages, it would say when you run "sudo apt-get update", which is why you were asked to run it
[18:16] <Juest> The system is ok
[18:16] <Juest> on live cd i had canceled the download thus making cd only install
[18:16] <holstein> Juest: i dont think so... if it were, you wouldnt be here.. did you test the hard drive? and the memory?
[18:16] <Juest> It's tested, it works
[18:16] <Juest> windows works great
[18:16] <Juest> ubuntu basically it works great too
[18:16] <Juest> it's not a hardware problem
[18:16] <bean__> !enter | Juest
[18:17] <holstein> Juest: i would just resinstall, and come here *before* you do *anything*.. i dont think you can communite you issues clearly enough here for one of the volunteers to help you properly
[18:17] <Guest8019> that's about retarded to direct me there just for this simple thing so that I can appropriately ask my question that's relevant here... (by appropriately I mean with a proper nick)... I'm not doing it... I'll just run /Nic help
[18:17] <holstein> Juest: also, you seem to have issues following the channel guidelines, which makse it challening to help you in a timely manner
[18:17] <techsuperfreak> Juest: http://bit.ly/13JaM1d check this
[18:17] <Juest> it's only me doing a bad install, i wonder if im missing packages that are downloaded and installed from internet on installer, cuz i said i canceled the download so i had apt-get upgrade already i tell
[18:17] <Guest8019> */Nick
[18:18] <help> really
[18:18] <Juest> holstein: I don't want to reinstall all over
[18:18] <holstein> Juest: it would be the easiest.. then we can help you not break it..
[18:18] <Juest> well
[18:18] <Guest4750> fuck!!!!
[18:18] <holstein> Juest: if you dont want to reinstall, then i need more specifics
[18:18] <kalenjohnson> Juest, the downloads from the liveCD only apply to updates and 3rd party packages, like MP3, etc. I don't think you should be missing anything though
[18:18] <Bubbelgum> need some help, need a way to remove an oem partition on an extern 2.5" disk whit usb interface
[18:18] <holstein> Guest4750: please refrain
[18:18] <DJones> Guest4750: Please don't swear in the channel
[18:18] <Guest4750> sorry
[18:19] <holstein> Bubbelgum: i would just use a disk tool.. gparted for example
[18:20] <Bubbelgum> ok, see if i can find it =)
[18:20] <Bollsaq> I read the beta release is today. Is that correct?
[18:20] <bean__> Guest4750: you just /nick newnick to change your nick
[18:20] <holstein> Bollsaq: try #ubuntu+1
[18:20] <bean__> Guest4750: unless that nick is in use, then you'll have to have nickserv ghost it
[18:21] <Bollsaq> holstein: done did
[18:21] <Juest> holstein: Better yet, Get SSH access
[18:21] <mshake> hi i want to know how i can start a program after startup by 2 minute
[18:21] <Juest> techsuperfreak: dude that's for 9.10, im on 12.10 :P
[18:22] <holstein> Juest: ? you can have ssh access to what you like.. if you are inviting a volunteer here to access your machine via ssh, that might not be something anyone is comfortable with
[18:22] <mshake> i added a program in startup location but it's not starting everytime i restart
[18:22] <Juest> oh well
[18:22] <mshake> so i need to make a time delay
[18:22] <Juest> im invitating
[18:22] <bean__> no one will do that
[18:22] <bean__> its not smart.
[18:22] <Juest> i feel i will get better help by having someone on ssh
[18:22] <Juest> well
[18:22] <bean__> especially not smart for you.
[18:22] <Juest> it will help me
[18:22] <Juest> really
[18:22] <FloodBot1> Juest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <holstein> Juest: you could try asking "would someone like to connect to my machine via ssh and repair it for me?".. then that would at least be a clear question.. but i wouldnt expect that
[18:22] <bean__> Juest: do you want your computer to be crashed?
[18:23] <r9> How do I read a PGP message block on Ubuntu?
[18:23] <Juest> no, i get someone in my pc and with me controlling it via screen
[18:23] <mshake> what this command do   ??? sh -c "sleep 120s; *****"
[18:23] <bean__> mshake: it sleeps, for 120 seconds.
[18:23] <holstein> Juest: if i were you, i would reinstall.. it will take less than 10 minutes.. and just come here for help before doing *anything*
[18:24] <belgianguy> when does Xorg.0.log get rotated?
[18:24] <mshake> how do i make a program start after 2 minutes
[18:24] <belgianguy> (when does the current log becomes log.old)
[18:24] <Bubbelgum> holstein, Thx, worked like a charm =)
[18:24] <Juest> holstein: nope, i won't i don't want to lose my settings -.-, i just want to fix the system without reinstalling it
[18:24] <bean__> mshake: you run it once two minutes have passed :)
[18:24] <holstein> Juest: i think there are commercial services which may offer that.. the vounteers here might not want to do that
[18:24] <belgianguy> mshake: at?
[18:24] <bean__> Juest: i'll do it if you are willing to let me forkbomb you
[18:24] <Juest> What a sh****y channel
[18:25] <holstein> Juest: pleas refrain
[18:25] <mshake> i want a time delay before it start the application
[18:25] <mshake> of 2 minutes
[18:25] <mshake> because sometime it's not starting
[18:25] <belgianguy> mshake: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/06/at-atq-atrm-batch-command-examples/
[18:25] <kalenjohnson> that was fun
[18:26] <mshake> let's say i want my chrome to start after 2 minutes
[18:27] <mshake> i will  say  at now + 2 min chrome ?
[18:27] <mshake> i want that in startup application
[18:27] <mshake> command
[18:28] <bean__> mshake: yes
[18:28] <bean__> also, please try to keep your responses on one line.
[18:28] <mshake>  is the dollar sign necessary ?
[18:29] <bean__> mshake: the dollar sign just means that its at a user prompt
[18:29] <binary_glitch> How do I re-install the default wifi adapter drivers that came with my system after unsuccessfully trying to install windows drivers for a different adapter using ndis-something...??
[18:30] <mshake> thanks
[18:32] <Kartagis> how can I see what a package's dependencies are?
[18:34] <Pici> Kartagis: apt-cache show packagename
[18:35] <techsuperfreak> Kartagis: http://bit.ly/15nx0w apt cheat sheet
[18:36] <binary_glitch> I got a new wifi adapter (upgrade) and it wasn't auto-recognized so I installed Ndiswrapper per an online tutorial, so that I could use the windows driver to make it work... it didn't work, now I just want to go back to the old one but it doesn't work either... I did apt-get remove ndiswrapper and others I installed and rebooted still not recognized... what do I do to get the original wifi settings and driver(s) back?
[18:39] <acalvo>  has anyone used preseeding?
[18:41] <xilo> anyone familiar with tmux? getting werid dbus and other erros when i launch gtk apps from it
[18:42] <binary_glitch> @ acalvo and @ xilo ... no sorry guys (where guys is meant to be the gender non-specific common phrase)
[18:43] <trism> xilo: the dbus address is set in the environment, (env | grep -i dbus), if you detach from tmux, restart your session and come back, the address will be wrong
[18:43] <xilo> trism: but i havent detachjed at all
[18:44] <xilo> i do tmux -> gvim and get
[18:44] <xilo> Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-s56wCs0Bg5: Connection refused
[18:44] <binary_glitch> I got a new wifi adapter (upgrade) and it wasn't auto-recognized so I installed Ndiswrapper per an online tutorial, so that I could use the windows driver to make it work... it didn't work, now I just want to go back to the old one but it doesn't work either... I did apt-get remove ndiswrapper and others I installed and rebooted still not recognized... what do I do to get the original wifi settings and driver(s) back?
[18:44] <tgm4883> Kartagis, apt-cache show <PACKAGENAME> | grep Depends
[18:45] <trism> xilo: again it is probably still the same issue, there may be other ways it occurs
[18:45] <jman074> so how do i shut down a program with the terminal
[18:45] <jman074> ??
[18:45] <binary_glitch> Distro -v = Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:45] <SubCool> could somone asist me with my grub issue-. ive gone trhough the guids of grub.. and im gettting no where.
[18:45] <xilo> so how can i fix
[18:45] <tgm4883> jman074, you could kill the PID
[18:46] <jman074> tgm newby here don't know what that means
[18:46] <tgm4883> jman074, what program
[18:46] <species_4981> jman074: type "top" and identify the PID (an identification number) associated with what you want to kill, then exit from top and type kill -9 <pid> ... that's one clumsy way of doing it
[18:47] <jman074> kay cuz i tried to open the program and it says its one already running and i don't see it any where
[18:48] <binary_glitch> SubCool,  I have limited experience messing with grub and even more limit on experience with editing grub2 but what are you trying to do, maybe by lucky happen-stance you'll have an issue I've dealt with before...
[18:48] <jman074> its not listed
[18:48] <eudmar> recervei 50gigas para instalaar meu ubuntu e agora esta dando que estase memoria o que posso fazer para liberar espasso
[18:48] <tgm4883> jman074, what program
[18:48] <eudmar> ????
[18:49] <SubCool> some who while reinstalling 12.4 to my computer with lvm. i lost my grub, i've followed a few guides to instlal and reinstlal and fix grub- but.. im getting no where
[18:49] <jman074> transmission bittorrent
[18:49] <trism> xilo: I have an alias which helps a bit with the issues (though it may cause others): alias tmux-refresh='export $(tmux show-environment | grep -v ^-)'
[18:50] <SubCool> binary_glitch, - so far- ive tried boot-repair.. and a few others.. but everything comes out with - incomplete. not even much of an error
[18:50] <DJones> !pt | eudmar
[18:50] <jman074> damn the thing just popped up on the screen like magic
[18:50] <jman074> wtf
[18:50] <tgm4883> jman074, pastebin 'ps aux | grep transmission'
[18:50] <binary_glitch> okay can you get into your sys?? ie through grub live or can you (do you have the resources to) boot into a live addition of your distro?
[18:50] <eudmar> thanks
[18:50] <jman074> and what does that do exactly and since it popped up do i still need to type that it
[18:51] <tgm4883> jman074, that would help us find the PID, no you don't need to do that anymore
[18:51] <xilo> trism: do you run that inside tmux or out?
[18:51] <SubCool> binary_glitch, what commands lists all partitions, lvm and regular
[18:51] <trism> xilo: but again I usually run it after detaching, restarting my session and coming back to fix the dbus address, you may be having other issues
[18:51] <jman074> i think my comp got into the sauce while i was at work lol
[18:51] <xilo> oh nvm
[18:52] <binary_glitch> not sure I would use gparted...
[18:53] <jman074> tgm i thank you
[18:53] <disharmonic> jman074: you can also use "killall transmission" no need for a pid. You can also find the pid by running top in a terminal. You quit top by pressing q
[18:54] <torpet> hello, anybody here with a x1 carbon and ubuntu 12.10 on it?
[18:54] <ninch> i wish :(
[18:54] <jman074> thanks much
[18:56] <FLeiXiuS> How do I remove the black screen on the Ubuntu ISO during first boot?  This is the one with the keyboard = accessibility spiel
[18:56] <dada> hello i did a noob mistake can someone help me?
[18:57] <ruud> !ask|dada
[18:58] <binary_glitch> @ SubCool  if you can make a live usb/cd/dvd etc. of your distro (assuming it's an *buntu... as your on this channel) you should be able to use the 'Boot-Repair graphical tool' to automate the re-installation of grub2...
[18:58] <eudmar> I ran out of memory on my ubuntu recervei 50 gigs of memory but does not know what happened and a mistake I'm talking out of memory what I do???
[18:58] <dada> I mount an iso like this sudo mount -o loop 'path' /home/user i tried to sudo unmount -o loop 'path' /home/user but it did not work so i thought that maybe i should log out but now I cant log in
[18:59] <SubCool> binary_glitch, way paste that- every time i run it- it gives an error of closing package managers
[18:59] <binary_glitch> and or repair it if I remember correctly
[18:59] <binary_glitch> what?
[18:59] <SubCool> binary_glitch, i've tried-
[18:59] <IzzoDizzo> dada, you mounted an iso on you homedir?
[18:59] <jman074> how do i put a different picture on my other desktops
[19:00] <dada> IzzoDizzo: yes :(
[19:00] <torpet> torpet
[19:00] <IzzoDizzo> dada: did you reboot already?
[19:01] <binary_glitch> oh... well that's about the extent of my ability in that department, beyond that, I would just be googling and guessing sorry...
[19:01] <dada> no just logged out. I'm currently using the guest account
[19:01] <jman074> ?
[19:01] <IzzoDizzo> dada:what does the unmount give as output?
[19:01] <SubCool> binary_glitch, its cool- been doing that
[19:02] <dada> IzzoDizzo: I'm no longer logged on my admin account
[19:02] <IzzoDizzo> dada:did you give a password to your root acc?
[19:02] <dada> can i do it from guest? but i have no admin privilages
[19:02] <dada> IzzoDizzo: yes
[19:03] <IzzoDizzo> dada:can you su - as guest? not sure
[19:03] <jrib> dada: can you login as your other user in a terminal with "su - name_of_other_user"?
[19:04] <dada> dunno jrib
[19:04] <jrib> dada: actually, I would just reboot as it will likely be your fastest solution
[19:04] <Slotkenov> remember me?
[19:05] <dada> jrib: ok I will reboot but if it does not work how can I run a terminal on login screen? ctrl+alt_t ?
[19:05] <jrib> dada: I can't imagine why it would not work
[19:05] <IzzoDizzo> data:reboot will not remount if its not in fstab
[19:06] <torpet> are there any cheaper alternatives to an x1 carbon which are also a tad smaller?
[19:06] <torpet> 12-13" range
[19:06] <dada> ok jrib and IzzoDizzo thanks I will reboot for now. See you in a few minutes
[19:06] <binary_glitch> I got a new wifi adapter (upgrade) and it wasn't auto-recognized so I installed Ndiswrapper per an online tutorial, so that I could use the windows driver to make it work... it didn't work, now I just want to go back to the old one but it doesn't work either... I did apt-get remove ndiswrapper and others I installed and rebooted still not recognized... what do I do to get the original wifi settings and driver(s) back?
[19:07] <bazhang> torpet, ##hardware for that
[19:07] <torpet> bazhang,
[19:07] <Leolo_3> how do I install the latest firefox in ubunutu 10?
[19:07] <Leolo_3> hardmode; this is in fact a fitpc
[19:08] <torpet> bazhang: will do
[19:08] <torpet> sorry for my lousy typing
[19:08] <jman074> is it possible to put different pictures on the other desktops
[19:08] <jman074> ?
[19:08] <Leolo_3> Linux ubuntu-fitpc2 2.6.31-34-fitpc2 #5 SMP Thu Jan 7 13:49:08 IST 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:08] <Slotkenov> Hey, when I suspend my laptop running 12.04 it immediately wakes up. I was told to disable wake on lan in my bios, I have no such function in my bios though. What would you suggest?
[19:09] <Leolo_3> slot : same thing happens to me.  but if I close the cover, it stays asleep
[19:10] <Slotkenov> Leolo_3: havn't tried that, give me a minute.
[19:10] <dada> Yes it worked! Thank you both again.
[19:11] <Slotkenov> Leolo_3: That doesn't work for me unfortunately
[19:12] <dada> Should I mount isos on the /mnt dir?
[19:12] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135230/different-background-or-wallpaper-per-workspace-ubuntu-12-04  jman074
[19:13] <Slotkenov> Anyone with experience on suspend issues?
[19:13] <Tex_Nick> Slotkenov:  sometimes in bios "wake on lan" is called WOL
[19:13] <Tecan> does anyone know how to fix the jack issue ?
[19:13] <dada> Slotkenov: I have no option for hibernate.
[19:14] <Leolo_3> tex : i don't see hw that would be an issue.  WoL requires a special packet to wake up, not just random ethernet frames
[19:14] <bizhanMona> HI all, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my system for the first time. Then I typed "sudo apt-get update" and I got the following errors:  pastebin.com/T3NffkT4   any idea please? thanks
[19:14] <Slotkenov> Tex_Nick: thanx, but that option is not there either
[19:14] <Juest> .
[19:14] <Tex_Nick> Leolo_3:  ok, thanks for the heads-up there ;)
[19:15] <coolroot> my firestarter keep gettin response from an ip with xmpp-client unknown is it safe!?
[19:15] <Leolo_3> tex : ... i was hoping you'd contradict me :-)
[19:15] <Leolo_3> anyway, I have a very very basic question: how do I tell what package installed a file ?
[19:15] <jman074> errrrrrrrrr
[19:16] <Tex_Nick> Leolo_3:  LOL ... nope ... i wasn't thinking about the "magic packett" ;-)
[19:17] <qwertyomen> bizhanMona:are you just using internet sources or is it still trying to use the cd?
[19:17] <Leolo_3> ... the answer seems to be dlocate
[19:17] <dada> !patience
[19:17] <pierre__> bonjour, serait il possible d'avoir de l'aide ?
[19:18] <binary_glitch> What do I do to get the original wifi settings and driver(s) back in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[19:18] <hd1> where's normal.mod supposed to be in grub?
[19:19] <bizhanMona> qwertyomen: Just internet at this time
[19:20] <Leolo_3> pierre : oui, il serait possible.  mais en premier, il faut posser une question.  idealement en anglais pour avoir de l'aide des experts
[19:20] <qwertyomen> bizhanMona: almost looks like the internet cuts out while it searches...
[19:22] <ehoover> Could someone point me in the direction of the correct channel for problems with the build farm?
[19:22] <bizhanMona> qwjertyomen: that is possiblity since we have seen lot us of network issue, thank you so much, let me look into the network issue.
[19:24] <qwertyomen> bizhanMona: hope that helps. otherwise it could be getting a different mirror
[19:25] <err-or_> hi, why is this??? :D i tar a whole os and then restore it, some of the permissions are f*cked up... tar -cvpzf & restore it will cause strange permissions... for example /var/cache/man is owned by proxy:root not by man:root. what happened?
[19:25] <Gi0va> hi all
[19:25] <bizhanMona> qwertyomen: if it is different mirror, that means my configuration is wrong??
[19:25] <Gi0va> i have a problem during lightdm startup
[19:26] <Rokas_Person> what
[19:26] <qwertyomen> bizhanMona: It could just mean finding a closer mirror that's all :D
[19:26] <Gi0va> it show only the wallpaper but anythings else load
[19:26] <bizhanMona> qwertyomen: thanks so much
[19:26] <boot13> Hello. Installing 12.04 x64, getting "unable to find a medium containing a live file system". Out of ideas.
[19:26] <Leolo_3> err-or : are you sure the users have the same UID?
[19:26] <binary_glitch> What do I do to get the original WiFi settings and driver(s) back in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS after installing then removing Ndiswrapper?
[19:26] <binary_glitch> pierre, qu'est-ce que vous avez besoin d'aide?
[19:26] <qwertyomen> bizhanMona: no prob let me know if you find an answer
[19:27] <qwertyomen> *the answer...
[19:27] <Leolo_3> glitch : il est parti...
[19:27] <tun> hi
[19:27] <err-or_> Leolo_3: im sure. same /etc/passwd same /etc/groups. i restore in a live system, same os version. eg. ubuntu 12.04
[19:27] <spok> can you test mplayer? "mplayer /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg". Mine just hangs
[19:27] <tun> hello
[19:27] <Leolo_3> err-or : can you verify that the UID:GID of the file/dir in question is the same on both sides?
[19:28] <dada> hello tun
[19:28] <Synx|hm> What do i need to do to change my LUKs encryption cipher in 12.10?
[19:28] <binary_glitch> ah ok merci, Leolo_3
[19:28] <tun> dada: do you know about ubuntu ??
[19:28] <err-or_> Leolo_3: i'd have to look. i was in a rush today restoring our telephony machine. and this happened. no mysql started up no postfx worked...
[19:28] <tun> can anyone teach me linux??
[19:29] <err-or_> tun: the whole thing?
[19:29] <binary_glitch> tun it will take time but I could help get you started...
[19:29] <tun> err-or_: if you can, or else teach me as much as you can
[19:29] <belgianguy> tun: I'd say, try a LiveUSB and reboot from your USB, and then you can 'try without installing'
[19:29] <tun> binary_glitch: really? that will be great
[19:30] <Timbo> I'm on amd64. When I install libsdl1.2debian:i386, everything is fine except I don't have a /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libSDL.so symlink why not?
[19:30] <tun> belgianguy: how??
[19:30] <err-or_> Timbo: why would you do this?
[19:30] <binary_glitch> ubuntu is a good place to start if you're looking to ease your way in... but linux is something that just takes time to get good at using
[19:30] <Timbo> err-or_: so I can cross compile for i386
[19:31] <ascorbic> binary_glitch: I don't think that's true at all
[19:31] <tun> binary_glitch: so, where to start?
[19:31] <binary_glitch> let me try to get an aswer to my question and them we can pm and I'll give you some pointers and links to easy to understand guides to some things you'll find invaluable to know...
[19:31] <tun> binary_glitch: qvan you tell me step by step??
[19:31] <ascorbic> tun: Have you ever install Windows?
[19:32] <spok> guys, please run mplayer in your terminal on a small ogg, is it hanged after command: "mplayer /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg" ?
[19:32] <ascorbic> *installed
[19:32] <spok> or plays normally?
[19:32] <tun> binary_glitch: ok
[19:32] <binary_glitch> What do I do to get the original WiFi settings and driver(s) back in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[19:32] <tun> ascorbic:  i have
[19:32] <err-or_> tun: first boot up a live cd
[19:32] <ascorbic> tun: Installing Linux is actually easier. It's just a little bit different. You should just try it and come back if you have problems.
[19:33] <tun> binary_glitch: i don't know
[19:33] <tun> err-or_: ok
[19:33] <Pici> !guide
[19:33] <Pici> er
[19:33] <Pici> !manual
[19:33] <tun> ascorbic: i am using now..ubuntu 12.04 lts
[19:33] <binary_glitch> tun look up unetbootin... and LILI
[19:33] <tun> !guide
[19:34] <tun> binary_glitch:  what??
[19:34] <ascorbic> tun: So then you're already using Linux... you need to be more specific about what you need help understanding
[19:34] <Pici> tun: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[19:34] <panorain> can someone help me with a dual boot and grub 2?
[19:34] <qwertyomen> panorain: what's up
[19:34] <binary_glitch> they will automatically install a 'live linux' on a usb thumb drive that you can boot into without having to actually install linux on your hard-drive... this allows you to try it first
[19:35] <panorain> qwertyomen can I send you a pm I have it written out very well about 1.5 pages
[19:35] <Afflicto> holstein: I was able to boot the previous kernel and i got my internet now. Should I just do that every time? :\
[19:35] <tun> ascorbic: ok my friend, I just use linux..but I don't know how to keep moving
[19:35] <tun> Pici: thanks
[19:35] <binary_glitch> if all you want to do is basic stuff like checking email, and facebooking and writing office documents and what not linux is easier than windows
[19:35] <panorain> quertyomen I am trying to run 2 harddrives 1 os on each 12.10 on the first slitaz4 on the second
[19:35] <ascorbic> tun: Well, if someone asked you to teach them Windows, what would you say?
[19:36] <tun> ascorbic: I have read some basic stuff, like- apt-get,cp,sudo
[19:36] <qwertyomen> panorain: are you trying to add an entry to GRUB?
[19:36] <tun> so on
[19:36] <holstein> Afflicto: well, you know what the issue is.. what would i do? maybe just boot that kernel for now, since i dont reboot very often any... and just see if an upgrade fixes the issue
[19:36] <ascorbic> tun: So you're trying to learn the command-line?
[19:36] <panorain> quertyomen grub picks it up already but fails to load is
[19:36] <tun> ascorbic: I would say hey click this; click that and i will tell them about what are the purpose
[19:36] <tun> ascorbic: I believe so my friend
[19:37] <panorain> quertyomen it fails to load the second hd
[19:37] <Afflicto> holstein: ok so I'll stick with this old kernel untill the next ubuntu update comes along and test again
[19:37] <tun> ascorbic: the reason I am asking you guys is my brother told me to study or master linux
[19:37] <panorain> quertyomen I installed slitaz initally as a sole os on 1 drive
[19:37] <ascorbic> tun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:37] <anvo> Hi all! Anybody uses "crocodoc"...? Firefox is giving me "script errors"...
[19:37] <tun> I have no idea where to start
[19:37] <holstein> Afflicto: you can remove the kernel that is not working.. but id just wait a bit
[19:37] <qwertyomen> panorain: haha fun stuff! :D
[19:37] <panorain> quertyomen I now installed another drive as primary with 12.10
[19:37] <binary_glitch> tun, just google unetbootin download and install it and then I'll walk you through installing a trial of linux that has no hard-drive commitments and from there you can install to your hard-drive if you want to
[19:37] <ascorbic> tun: Any particular reason? Do you want to write software or something like that?
[19:37] <panorain> quertyomen I know I have been reading grub
[19:38] <holstein> tun: start with a live CD.. start using linux and get specific questions.. and search for answers
[19:38] <SuperLag> If I've used chsh to change my default shell to zsh, why when I log in again... does $SHELL still show /bin/bash ?
[19:38] <panorain> quertyomen I started feeling overwhelmed
[19:38] <tun> binary_glitch: now i am using from ubuntu my friend
[19:38] <Afflicto> holstein: alright, thanks again :)
[19:38] <binary_glitch> oh your already using it....
[19:38] <qwertyomen> panorain: your already further than me, I'm still using tools like easybcd to cheat my way out lol
[19:39] <tun> ascorbic: Yes, I do want to write software
[19:39] <binary_glitch> okay how is it so far?
[19:39] <tun> holstein: ok my friend
[19:39] <panorain> qwertyomen thank you for your help though I appreciate it
[19:39] <boot13> any ideas? "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:39] <binary_glitch> tun what langs do you know
[19:39] <tun> why i can not use apt-get in mac terminal?
[19:40] <bekks> tun: Because mac doesnt support apt-get while linux does.
[19:40] <tun> binary_glitch: I do know a little bit about C
[19:40] <qwertyomen> panorain: just wish I could help you more, still my first year of really digging into linux :D
[19:40] <holstein> tun: also, maybe a general linux channel.. maybe #ubuntu-beginners
[19:40] <binary_glitch> apt-get is a debian tool, you need an os based on debian
[19:40] <binary_glitch> to use apt-get
[19:40] <panorain> quertyomen fair enough I have an email sent out also
[19:40] <binary_glitch> mac is not \
[19:40] <qwertyomen> panorain: coolio
[19:40] <tun> binary_glitch:  so what use?
[19:40] <binary_glitch> okay, I know c++
[19:41] <panorain> quertyomen what is that tool you mentioned
[19:41] <ascorbic> tun: If you want to write software, you're going to need to learn by reading documentation. You can learn Linux/Ubuntu the same way.
[19:42] <qwertyomen> panorain: do a google search of easybcd
[19:42] <panorain> quertyomen ok
[19:42] <qwertyomen> painorain I think it's just windows based though...
[19:42] <tun> can't get into #ubuntu-biginners
[19:42] <binary_glitch> use a Debian based Linux Distrobution such as Debian it's self, Ubuntu or one of it's numerous variants, however know that most Linux Distros have an equivelant tool to apt-get
[19:42] <truexfan81> i see from the topic 10.04 is still supported, when does it reach eol?
[19:43] <hd1> tun, try ubuntu-beginners?
[19:43] <xangua> !lucid | truexfan81
[19:43] <tun> binary_glitch: so how can I download file using comand lines in mac?
[19:43] <truexfan81> xangua: just tell me lol bots are on the ignore list
[19:43] <tun> hd1: i tried doesn't work out
[19:43] <xangua> truexfan81: that is really a bad idea
[19:44] <binary_glitch> tun, idk anything about mac os'es
[19:44] <tun> binary_glitch: ok my friend
[19:44] <jman074> i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it does not advance past the boot sceen
[19:44] <HarvesterOfBeer> I'm having trouble with "too many open files"
[19:44] <binary_glitch> if you mean your running ubuntu on mac hardware than that doesn't matter much
[19:44] <tun> binary_glitch: when somebody told you learn linux what wold you do my friend?
[19:44] <HarvesterOfBeer> I believe I've set the ulimits correctly, but errors keep happening
[19:45] <xangua> tun got any ubuntu support question¿
[19:45] <xangua> have*
[19:45] <HarvesterOfBeer> anybdoy handly with that stuff?
[19:45] <tun> xangua: like what?
[19:45] <qwertyomen> panorain: this is what I've found for a grub customizer
[19:45] <binary_glitch> install linux and play with it untill i broke it then try to fix it, if I fail repeat
[19:45] <k1l_> !ot | binary_glitch tun
[19:46] <tun> binary_glitch: that's is? so linux is not a programing language??
[19:46] <jman074> i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it does not advance past the boot sceen
[19:46] <Rokkross> jman074: What do you see?
[19:47] <qwertyomen> panorain: oops here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183#post10340183
[19:47] <Rokkross> If it's just a blank screen that just shuts off after a while it might be a problem with KMS.
[19:47]  * Synx|hm gets 'how to identify a troll' from the bookshelf
[19:47] <qwertyomen> * Syn|hm: haha!
[19:47] <jman074> starts with starting load fallback gra[hics devices and ends with stopping save kernal messages and its a list with all ok's
[19:48] <binary_glitch> tun no, it's an operating system that comes with support for many programming languages by default... but these guys are right this discussion does not belong here ... I'll pm you.
[19:49] <dada> why unity does not minimize the applications? pretty annoying
[19:49] <Rokkross> dada: If you don't like Unity, get rid of it.
[19:49] <Rokkross> Also I'm pretty sure you can minimize apps in Unity, though I haven't used it in a while.
[19:50] <xangua> dada: the minimize button minimize, yes
[19:50] <ascorbic> dada: And tell Canonical it's horrible. I'm sure they haven't heard it enough. (Really.)
[19:50] <dada> yes from the minimize button yes it does it
[19:50] <Rokkross> They're going to hear a lot more once they use that new display server built around Unity.
[19:50] <dada> I meant from the unity icons
[19:50] <mimmo> !list
[19:50] <Rokkross> Mainly from other *buntu spins I bet
[19:51] <tun> binary_glitch: how to pm you?
[19:51] <Rokkross> Wait...how does !list imply you're looking for warez?
[19:51]  * Rokkross pokes ubottu
[19:51] <jman074>  i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it doesnt get past the boot screen. the screen starts with "starting load fallback graphics devices" and ends with "stopping save kernal messages" and its a list with all ok's
[19:51] <genii-around> !it | mimmo
[19:51] <binary_glitch> tun idk what IRC client you're using, but most likley if you'r trying to find how to talk to me look to your left (for most graphical IRC clients)
[19:52] <binary_glitch> and you should see my nick there... click on it
[19:52] <tun> binary_glitch: I am using isrri
[19:52] <mimmo> !list
[19:53] <jman074>  i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it doesnt get past the boot screen. the screen starts with "starting load fallback graphics devices" and ends with "stopping save kernal messages" and its a list with all ok's
[19:54] <Rokkross> jman074: Try not to repeat yourself too often.
[19:54] <ha55an> Hi, I have a question about ldap authentication, if i enable it, will the users be added to /etc/passwd?
[19:54] <Rokkross> I realize that it's a busy channel, but someone will help you eventually.
[19:54] <SubCool> Ok- histo you around?
[19:55] <Stdedos> does this command look legit? "sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile.txt -a -v -p sh -c 'cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install'"
[19:55] <Rokkross> "legit"
[19:55] <Rokkross> Well any command that does anything is legitimate.
[19:55] <SubCool> And if anyone else can help. i got paste my grub boot issues.. Found out - i dont have a grub issue, I believe my computer is having an issue finding my /home directory
[19:55] <Rokkross> A fork bomb is legitimate; that doesn't mean you should run one :P
[19:55] <Stdedos> Yeah, you know what I mean Rokkross
[19:56] <Stdedos> I want to time the compilation of my kernel, without being interrupted all the time for a password
[19:56] <Stdedos> or having no rights
[19:56] <Stdedos> Rokkross: (Btw, how can you create a fork bomb?? :P )
[19:57] <Rokkross> I am not posting a fork bomb in the channel. There are a lot of new users here who might want to try it.
[19:57] <qwertyomen> names
[19:57] <qwertyomen> haha oops
[19:57] <oliverp> Is it unwise to run apt-get remove --purge gnome* if I want to get rid of everything GUI-related from my server?
[19:58] <ascorbic> Stdedos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[19:59] <elisa87> Why do I receive these lines after I write source ~/.bashrc ???? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594092/ is there anything wrong?
[19:59] <Stdedos> ascorbic: does this look legit to you? " sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile.txt -a -v -p sh -c 'cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install' "
[19:59] <Stdedos> Can I achieve my purpose?
[19:59] <tun> exit
[19:59] <tun> quit
[19:59] <Synx|hm> tun: add a /
[19:59] <tun> oops thanks
[20:00] <Synx|hm> ok ok maybe not a troll, sry
[20:01] <tables> what's the best video recording program on ubuntu?
[20:01] <holstein> tables: "best" is a matter of opinion.. i would just search the repos and try some.. kdenlive is quite popular
[20:02] <holstein> tables: you can record video in something as simple as cheese
[20:02] <holstein> !info cheese
[20:02] <holstein> !info kdenlive
[20:02] <Vin100|Home> join #skyprivate
[20:06] <qwertyomen> just rebuilt my grub... wish me luck :D
[20:10] <jman074> i could use help getting past the boot screen
[20:11] <binary_glitch> What do I do to get the original WiFi settings and driver(s) back in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[20:11] <bekks> binary_glitch: Restore the settings you changed and remove the drivers you installed additionally. Then reinstall the drivers you replaced.
[20:11] <binary_glitch> jman074, where does it stick?
[20:12] <binary_glitch> but idk what dirvers where installed in the first place, when I first installed it just worked out of the box...
[20:12] <binary_glitch> but then I ...
[20:12] <SubCool> And if anyone else can help. i got paste my grub boot issues.. Found out - i dont have a grub issue, I believe my computer is having an issue finding my /home directory
[20:13] <tsg> hi, when i install ubuntu server via pxe on a dell blade the installe asks me about the partitioning. when i start the installer on a test-vm the install works unattended without a problem
[20:13] <binary_glitch> I got a new wifi adapter (upgrade) and it wasn't auto-recognized so I installed Ndiswrapper per an online tutorial, so that I could use the windows driver to make it work... it didn't work, now I just want to go back to the old one but it doesn't work either... I did apt-get remove ndiswrapper and others I installed and rebooted still not recognized...
[20:13] <binary_glitch> pasted form my original question
[20:13] <gillettejm> binary: back your stuff up and reinstall.  it is probably the quickest way.
[20:14] <gillettejm> otherwise you are going to have to do some research.
[20:15] <binary_glitch> okay how can I back up my current programs? and is there a way to pick and choose which ones I backup so I don't backup any wifi stuff that may be the source of my problems
[20:15] <binary_glitch> ?
[20:15] <gillettejm> back up your home folder mainly
[20:16] <binary_glitch> I've tried research my friend google-fu isn't playing very nice right now lol
[20:16] <gillettejm> it should have all of your personal customizations in there
[20:16] <genii-around> binary_glitch: Did you remove references to the original adapter in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   ?
[20:16] <genii-around> eg: You may be trying to make wlan0 work when the device is wlan1
[20:16] <Stdedos> Does this command looks ok? " sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sh -c 'cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install' "
[20:17] <binary_glitch> it's me not using the right search terms I know but ... it's kinda like you have to know the solution to ask the right question sometimes, and if I knew, I wouldn't be aking ya know
[20:17] <tun> binary_glitch: i am back, you know what after i upgrade ubuntu i can't use my mouse pad
[20:17] <binary_glitch> no not unless it was an automatic thing installing Ndiswrapper does
[20:18] <gillettejm> see what interfaces are available with ifconfig
[20:18] <Koro76> Looking for some help with gmountiso
[20:19] <elplatt> why would apt-get update give me a 404 error for a url not in my sources.list?
[20:21] <Koro76> Anyone here experienced with gmountiso?
[20:22] <binary_glitch> kk just a sec afk to take care of something brb
[20:22] <Stdedos> Does this command looks ok? " sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sh -c 'cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install' "
[20:23] <genii-around> elplatt: Perhaps it's a URL which is in a PPA file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    directory
[20:23] <bekks> Stdedos: What are you trying to do?
[20:24] <Stdedos> Time my kernel compilation
[20:24] <Stdedos> bekks: *
[20:25] <SubCool> And if anyone else can help. i got paste my grub boot issues.. Found out - i dont have a grub issue, I believe my computer is having an issue finding my /home directory
[20:25] <shojo> where can i find the settings folder for xchat ?
[20:26] <gillettejm> Do you get a login prompt SubCool?
[20:26] <SubCool> gillettejm, no-
[20:26] <Stdedos> bekks: So, what do you think?
[20:26] <gillettejm> do you mean your home partition cannot be mounted?
[20:26] <SubCool> gillettejm, i get the ubuntu crank-
[20:27] <SubCool> gillettejm, im guesing- - i have no idea. i just know its a grub issue
[20:27] <bekks> Stdedos: I'd just issue make clean && make ... & ... into a script, and then call: time sudo myscript.sh
[20:27] <binary_glitch> okay so you where saying to ifconfig... did that as I siad, my old adapter is not detected... only the difault loop-back (lo) and my eithernet... eth0...
[20:27] <elplatt> genii-around, good guess, but sources.list.d is empty. the mirrors were in sources.list but have been commented out
[20:27] <Stdedos> Will I avoid multiple password entering?
[20:28] <binary_glitch> both the new and old wifi adapters are usb if that helps
[20:28] <Hans-Martin> hi folks, this time I'm here with a dbus problem. Over in the #dbus channel, nobody is awake, maybe someone here has good dbus knowledge?
[20:28] <gillettejm> binary: what type of wireless adapter have you got?
[20:28] <gillettejm> do you know which module it uses?
[20:28] <binary_glitch> also sysinfo and hw-list don't see it either
[20:29] <jman074>  i installed ubuntu alongside windows from my usb however it doesnt get past the boot screen. the screen starts with "starting load fallback graphics devices" and ends with "stopping save kernal messages" and its a list with all ok's
[20:29] <genii-around> elplatt: Might be cached addresses in /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:29] <binary_glitch> it's a belkin ... geting more info
[20:29] <avcomp> #php
[20:29] <binary_glitch> F9L1001v1 is the model nu
[20:30] <gillettejm> use lsusb and see what it says
[20:30] <Stdedos> bekks: Sorry for flooding you, but ... Will I avoid multiple password entering?
[20:30] <binary_glitch> lsusb output: Bus 001 Device 007: ID 050d:615a Belkin Components F7D4101 / F9L1101 802.11abgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM4323]
[20:31] <gillettejm> so it is a broadcom...
[20:31] <bekks> Stdedos: Yes. You will have to enter it one time only.
[20:31] <gillettejm> technically
[20:31] <binary_glitch> well the relevant part anyways
[20:31] <Stdedos> bekks: thanks! I can now enjoy my bath time :)
[20:31] <CazyArsMut> ok so this current nick name is my official master nick name now? crazyarsmut?
[20:31] <Stdedos> All have a eventfull evening!
[20:31] <binary_glitch> I guess
[20:32] <SubCool>   gillettejm sorry, idk if ur talking to me
[20:33] <binary_glitch> should I google something with ubuntu brodcom driver?
[20:33] <CazyArsMut> so why do i still see my IP? - help me cloak?
[20:33] <gillettejm> binary: broadcoms are a pain in the rear lol.
[20:33] <CazyArsMut> how do i find my account name?
[20:33] <bekks> gillettejm: Actually, they do work here for years, flawlessly and stable.
[20:34] <binary_glitch> it worked outta the box before i fu... sorry messed with it...
[20:34] <OerHeks> !bcm
[20:34] <gillettejm> bekks: until something goes wrong, or sometimes and a kernel update will hose it
[20:35] <qwertyomen> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:37] <panorain> when I type the following command at terminal ( sudo fdisk -l ) I see one drive with a * under boot
[20:38] <bekks> panorain: That * is irreleavnt nowadays.
[20:43] <dsprc> i pulled down a kernel update and it killed X again. this is a constantly reoccuring issue and if someone could help sort it out and mitigate (or avoid) this in the future id be most grateful
[20:44] <elplatt> what is the difference between source.ist and sources.list?
[20:45] <jrib> elplatt: where do you see "source.ist"?  Looks like a typo
[20:45] <elplatt> source.list i mean
[20:45] <jrib> elplatt: where do you see "source.list"?  Looks like a typo
[20:46] <elplatt> in etc apt
[20:47] <jrib> elplatt: looks like a typo; that file doesn't normally exist
[20:47] <dsprc> alternatively, if anyone knows a method to convert or edit .odf files from the console so i can finish a report for school that'd suffice too
[20:47] <elplatt> thanks!
[20:47] <avcomp_> This is the only server that I can get help in... how to register so that I can use other irc channels?
[20:47] <jrib> !register | avcomp_
[20:48] <whiteruby> elplatt: you can always use dpkg -S filepath to see if file is part of a package
[20:48] <avcomp_> ahhh " !register " I will try that .. You guys are awsome.
[20:49] <avcomp_> maybe problem lies in me not getting the E-mail....
[20:52] <adamx> Can anyone steer me in the correct direction with my Samba isue?
[20:52] <adamx> issue*
[20:53] <SubCool> And if anyone else can help. i got paste my grub boot issues.. Found out - i dont have a grub issue, I believe my computer is having an issue finding my /home directory
[20:54] <avcomp_> maybe mysql chennel is blocked for some reason...
[20:54] <dsprc> well i've X up... again :) still looking for help so i dont have to do console voodo after every update though
[20:54] <moistcherry> my dual boot with windows 7 isn't working...
[20:55] <avcomp_> moistcherry , what is the sequence on install
[20:55] <moistcherry> can anyone walk me through it?
[20:55] <corvax> I'm looking to download an old version of vsftpd, (vsftpd 2.3.4) is there an easy way to do that with apt-get?
[20:55] <moistcherry> windows 1st, ubuntu 11.10 2nd
[20:55] <gillettejm> moistcherry: Lucky you (assuming the windows side has failed) lol
[20:56] <moistcherry> yeah I believe I'd set it up from Windows
[20:56] <avcomp_> what is not working with it.. do you see GRUB menu?
[20:57] <dsprc> moistcherry: or does it boot straight to windows without showing anything?
[20:57] <panorain> bekks can I ask you why grub sees my slitaz distro but it error messeges tons then the boot fails
[20:58] <moistcherry> the menu comes up at startup...
[20:58] <moistcherry> brb going plug in
[20:58] <avcomp_>  moistcherry: No windows Option?
[20:59] <avcomp_> I really like GRUB boot repair :> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:00] <avcomp_> it has helped me out alot
[21:00] <dsprc> avcomp_: i really like lilo so i dont have to grub boot repair ;)
[21:01] <dsprc> is there a way to instruct the installer not to proceed with grub and to just pull in lilo instead?
[21:02] <moistcherry> ook...
[21:02] <afflicto-laptop> Hello everyone
[21:02] <moistcherry> when I boot up I get a choice between the two...
[21:02] <moistcherry> Win/Ubuntu
[21:02] <moistcherry> and when I choose Ubuntu I get an error message that says something like there's no file there
[21:02] <arcsky> ssh -D x.x.x.x -Nf , how i can do so it listen to an external ip adress?
[21:02] <panorain> Help init: Unable to create device .......
[21:02] <panorain> udevd[769}: mknod etc etc
[21:04] <EFlop2> 'sup guise
[21:05] <martian> I seem to have somehow messed up my python installation while goofing around with various aspects of learning python development. I can no longer run mysql workbench. Is it safe to completely remove python and all its packages?
[21:08] <afflicto-laptop> What's a good way to install a lamp stack with php 5.4 on ubuntu 12.10?
[21:08] <panorain> Where is /boot/grub/menu.lst located in 12.10?
[21:08] <jpds> panorain: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
[21:09] <panorain> jpds do I have to edit both of the files to be able to load my other distro?
[21:10] <jpds> panorain: No, you have to figure things out in grub.d.
[21:10] <panorain> jpds is /etc/default/grub the origional backup locale?
[21:10] <jpds> panorain: No.
[21:11] <panorain> jpds ok thank you
[21:11] <jpds> panorain: GRUB has moved on, to GRUB v2.
[21:11] <panorain> jpds I know I am a noob
[21:12] <drakedouay> Linux incorrectly believes a file exists. I deleted a file, and now I am attempting to copy a file of the same name to it's old folder. I am getting an error 'cannot overwrite'.... I am not sure how to troubleshoot this
[21:12] <panorain> jpds I am getting errors when booting my second distro
[21:12] <Oris> If anyone knows, I'd appreciate some insight. After a downgrade, natty>lucid, I get "perl: Depends: perl-modules (>= 5.10.1-17ubuntu4) but 5.10.1-8ubuntu2 is installed"
[21:13] <jpds> !downgrade | Oris
[21:13] <jpds> panorain: "errors" is very vague.
[21:13] <Oris> ah, great, it was suggested here because someone had made a mess of my sources on this server
[21:14] <Oris> I was told to go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto, and i tried using pinning
[21:14] <panorain> jpds I am booting into a Kernal vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz
[21:14] <panorain> jpds I am able to only boot into he disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present.
[21:14] <panorain> keys: Continue to wait, Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[21:14] <jrib> Oris: you could take that as a last ditch effort, but be prepared to fresh install if things go south
[21:15] <panorain> jpds init: Unable to create device .......
[21:15] <panorain> udevd[769}: mknod etc etc
[21:15] <panorain> pjds udevd errors etc..
[21:15] <jpds> panorain: Right, so nothing to do with GRUB and nothing fundamentally wrong with your second distro.
[21:15] <jpds> panorain: and something*
[21:16] <panorain> jpds ok sorry
[21:16] <Oris> as far as I can tell, the only error i have now is the perl unmet dependency
[21:16] <panorain> jpds where should I start looking at problems with the second distro?
[21:16] <jpds> panorain: In the second distro's channel. :)
[21:16] <panorain> jpds the second distro HD was moved from primary to secondary
[21:16] <panorain> jpds aha
[21:16] <panorain> jpds thank you
[21:17] <panorain> jpds so grub is working fine then
[21:17] <jpds> panorain: If it boots the distro, sure.
[21:17] <panorain> jpds ok thank you
[21:18] <panorain> jpds after I used all my primary drive space 320GB for 12.10 can I make 12.10 smaller?
[21:19] <panorain> jpds am I stuck with the full 320 GB partitions now?
[21:19]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[21:20] <dsprc> panorain: if youre using one of the default filesystems (ext2, 3, or 4) you should be able to shrink them
[21:21] <panorain> dsprc how can I shrink the ext4 filesystem
[21:23] <panorain> dsprc  can I shrink the drive space with /dev/sda1,2,5 partitions mounted?
[21:24] <dsprc> panorain: not sure because i dont use them but i _think_ you can just use resize2fs or something like that (beeter get a 2nd opinion on that tho)
[21:24] <panorain> dsprc ok thank you
[21:24] <panorain> dsprc so gparted will not work?
[21:25] <dsprc> panorain: probably best to unmount them as to not bork the journal and gparted may work. not sure. i use xfs which cant be shrunk
[21:25] <dsprc> so i never looked into it
[21:25] <panorain> dsprc fair enough thanks
[21:29] <bsmith093> rm never goes up, right
[21:29] <belgianguy> hi, with all the hullaballoo about Mir, is there a specific irc channel dedicated to this? or would that be in +1?
[21:30] <jrib> bsmith093: what does that mean?
[21:30] <bsmith093> rm -r ao3/ that would  be just like trashing that directory in a gui right
[21:30] <belgianguy> deleting directories above it
[21:31] <dsprc> bsmith093: not unless you .. or have it follow symlinks
[21:31] <bsmith093> yeah  it only goes down, not up
[21:31] <bsmith093> "rm -r ao3/ that would  be just like trashing that directory in a gui right" so i am correct in thes?
[21:31] <Fanfy> Can someone help me with an ubuntu problem?
[21:32] <belgianguy> Fanfy: don't ask to ask :) just ask
[21:32] <CrazyArseMutt> hello
[21:32] <kiarespond> Does anyone use RoboCode?
[21:33] <panorain> dsprc does grub2 anything with grub.cfc ring a bell
[21:33] <hiptobecubic> I sshd disabled by default?
[21:33] <hiptobecubic> is*
[21:33] <maik89> ps3 ita
[21:33] <panorain> dsprc grug.cfg sorry
[21:33] <bsmith093> hiptobecubic: yes
[21:34] <hiptobecubic> bsmith093, sigh...
[21:34] <panorain> how can I search for the file  grub.cfg  on my harddrive?
[21:34] <bsmith093> you can ssh out but not in, is what i meant
[21:34] <dsprc> bsmith093: it it will remove that directory, yes. if you want the ability to "untrash" them look into 'trash-cli'
[21:34] <Fanfy> Okay uhm well i keep getting a 'problem loading page' error for some reason. And another error as a webpage. I'm wondering why it's happening and how t ofix it
[21:34] <Fanfy> to fix it*
[21:35] <Fanfy> it just started happening it never happened before..
[21:35] <Joupi> panorain : find / -name "grub.cfg" -print
[21:35] <belgianguy> Fanfy: in a browser?
[21:35] <Fanfy> Yeah mozilla firefox and chromium
[21:35] <panorain> Joupi thank you
[21:35] <Fanfy> It does it in both
[21:35] <belgianguy> Fanfy: is your network connection active?
[21:35] <Fanfy> Even with wifi and a wired connection
[21:35] <Joupi> panorain : no problem (just use sudo with it ;-) )
[21:36] <Fanfy> Network connection active? What do you mean
[21:36] <CrazyArseMutt> any ideas about how to get my computer to run faster?  i have a 1.67ghz cpu ion gpu 310m nvidia - 2gbs of ram - and stanard 2.0 usb - oh and an ssd pyro - i have ubuntu running - i was looking for tweaks and ideas anyone might like to share
[21:36] <belgianguy> Fanfy: what does ifconfig say?
[21:36] <panorain> Joupi Fair enough
[21:36] <Fanfy> Uhm...how do I show you it's alot...
[21:36] <hiptobecubic> What is the correct way to add a kernel option to grub?
[21:36] <dsprc> !paste | Fanfy
[21:37] <belgianguy> I use screencloud
[21:37] <tamaros> anyone know how to make a remote host detach from screen/byobu?
[21:37] <belgianguy> uploads after button press
[21:37] <belgianguy> and puts url in clipboard
[21:37] <hiptobecubic> I'm helping someone who's helping someone who has just installed ubuntu.
[21:37] <hiptobecubic> They need to add pci=nomsi
[21:38] <hiptobecubic> I know back in the day it was /etc/grub.cfg or something
[21:38] <Peyam> Anybody runs xubuntu here?
[21:38] <belgianguy> hiptobecubic: I'd say do a testrun first
[21:38] <dsprc> tamaros: ^a ^d ??
[21:38] <k1l_> Peyam: im sure some do :)
[21:38] <hiptobecubic> belgianguy, they did. it froze
[21:38] <CrazyArseMutt> is this working?
[21:38] <hiptobecubic> some research shows it's a known problem
[21:38] <Peyam> alt+space doesnt work in chrome (with xubuntu)
[21:38] <Fanfy> okay so this is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594347/
[21:38] <belgianguy> hiptobecubic: yeah, but editing the file makes it permanent
[21:38] <Peyam> anyone knows how to fix it
[21:39] <belgianguy> IIRC you can alter some var when grub loads, and then on reboot it'll reset
[21:39] <hiptobecubic> belgianguy, well presumably they want it to not freeze each time they use it from now on.
[21:39] <panorain> Joupi is hd1,msdos1  =  second harddrive first slice?
[21:39] <belgianguy> ergo, a safety
[21:39] <Dave77> is there anyway to make apt get use another version of perl?
[21:39] <Fanfy> It's weird cause it wasn't doing it before when I first had ubuntu I just recently redownloaded it
[21:39] <jhutchins_wk> hiptobecubic: edit /etc/default/grub the update-grub
[21:39] <tamaros> dsprc: I'm connected to my desktop remotely, the desktop has a terminal connected also which is screwing up my resolution and I want to kick it off.  ^a ^d would just disconnect my session on the laptop
[21:39] <hiptobecubic> jhutchins_wk, thank you
[21:39] <Dave77> my system perl 5.14 is broke complains about strict.pm not found
[21:40] <panorain> dsprc is second harddrive first slice labeled 'hd1,msdos1
[21:40] <belgianguy> Fanfy: can you ping www.google.com
[21:40] <jhutchins_wk> tamaros: Ok.  Are you asking how to do that?
[21:40] <Fanfy> Ping?
[21:40] <Fanfy> huh?
[21:40] <tamaros> jhutchins_wk: yes
[21:41] <belgianguy> "ping www.google.com"
[21:41] <belgianguy> without ""
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> tamaros: disconnect, then screen -d -x
[21:41] <dsprc> panorain: youre gonna have to get someone else to troubleshoot with you. all lilo on this end.
[21:41] <Fanfy> uhm no.
[21:41] <Fanfy> Maybe this error code would help?
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: Actually the quotes are ok.
[21:42] <panorain> dsprc alright thank you
[21:42] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: but not needed
[21:42] <hiptobecubic> How does one interrupt grub to allow modifying the options ?
[21:42] <Fanfy> I get this for a web page instead sometimes like if I enter www.google.com I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594360/
[21:42] <GeO> hey guys
[21:42] <k1l_> hiptobecubic: shift
[21:42]  * hiptobecubic doesn't have an ubuntu machine to look at
[21:42] <dsprc> panorain: my only experience with grub is removing the damned thing :)
[21:42] <GeO> is there a way to see when a file has been accessed the last time ?
[21:43] <belgianguy> Fanfy: I had something similar, ubuntu still "saw" my network interfaces
[21:43] <hiptobecubic> k1l_, just shift? Nothing else?
[21:43] <belgianguy> but they didn't work anymore
[21:43] <panorain> dsprc fair enough
[21:43] <k1l_> hiptobecubic: yep
[21:43] <GeO> actually I have a folder with a lot of files, and I want to delete all that haven't been used for a month
[21:43] <Fanfy> It works once in a while but it gets really annoying when it doesn't...
[21:43] <hiptobecubic> k1l_,
[21:43] <hiptobecubic> k1l_, sorry. Yes ok :)
[21:43] <Fanfy> like right now I can be on facebook, but not google. Or go on gaiaonline and not google. Or some other website it varies sometimes facebook dies.
[21:44] <bekks> GeO: find . -type f -atime 28
[21:44] <belgianguy> Fanfy: that's not normal, I'd say get some wireshark data
[21:44] <jhutchins_wk> hiptobecubic: Pretty much any key should halt it, esc or tab
[21:44] <belgianguy> but that's maybe a bridge too far
[21:44] <Fanfy> It does it with wireless internet and through an ethernet cord
[21:44] <GeO> thanks :)
[21:44] <Fanfy> whats wireshark?
[21:44] <domo1> is ppa down?
[21:45] <belgianguy> Fanfy: wireshark is a network traffic analyzing tool
[21:45] <k1l_> domo1: depends on the ppa. and that is better to ask the ppa maintainer
[21:45] <hiptobecubic> Fanfy, it is a program for inspecting network traffic packet
[21:45] <hiptobecubic> traffic and individual packets*
[21:45] <jhutchins_wk> Fanfy: You've picked up some bad java somewhere.
[21:46] <Fanfy> Soo what will it do? I mean I don't get why I should use it o.o'' is it a program or what
[21:46] <Fanfy> How do I get rid of this 'java' o.o
[21:46] <GeO> bekks and to remove the result of the command, I must use a pipe right ? Like find . -type f -atime 28 | rm
[21:46] <dsprc> tamaros: ^a a d
[21:46] <jhutchins_wk> Fanfy: You're running chrome, right?
[21:46] <Fanfy> And I just used the ubuntu os disk my friend used the last time he put ubuntu on my computer. It didn't do this before...
[21:47] <Fanfy> No firefox I downloaded the chrome one to see if it did the same and it does..
[21:47] <bekks> GeO: find . -type f -atime 28 -exec echo "will execute rm on {}" \;
[21:47] <belgianguy> Fanfy: they may both use a plugin that's bad
[21:48] <Fanfy> Well I don't get it though it didn't do this the last time I had ubuntu. Although it did do some weird stuff when I was on the internet...like redirecting me to a random add site or something....
[21:48] <Fanfy> And it's the same disk I used last time
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> Fanfy: I'd try uninstalling any java packages you have, possibly remove /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja  (Can't be sure that won't break something.
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> Fanfy: Is this a live CD?
[21:48] <Fanfy> It's the file from online that you get..
[21:48] <Fanfy> A live CD? what's that?
[21:49] <belgianguy> Fanfy: try to keep it to sudo apt purge and remove as most as possible
[21:49] <belgianguy> freestyling with rm can break things
[21:49] <Fanfy> So I do sudo apt purge? o.o that doesn't sound pleasant you know sounds like it's gonna kill my poor computer lol
[21:49] <belgianguy> Fanfy: only execute commands you know what they'll do
[21:50] <dsprc> Fanfy: maybe your router is mis/maliciously configured and sending your requests to a bogus dns server
[21:50] <belgianguy> where'd the Java bit come from?
[21:50] <belgianguy> I missed that
[21:50] <Fanfy> .__. okay so purge is out as so is every other command cause i have no idea how to use ubuntu yet I'm sadly stuck with it...
[21:50] <satonio> hi
[21:50] <satonio> how the hell i resize a window that is extremely large (high) ?
[21:50] <Fanfy> And I don't think it's my router. It's brand new a week old, works fine with the xbox 360 and my aunts phone and tv...it's just my laptop that has issues
[21:51] <satonio> i can't even see its top to right click and then resize
[21:51] <k1l_> satonio: myabe try to shove it down with holding alt-key and use the mouse
[21:51] <satonio> it worked, ty
[21:52] <Fanfy> I'm thinking it's Ubuntu...really since the day I got it's been against me...o.o''
[21:52] <jrib> GeO: you may want +28 instead of exactly 28
[21:52] <GeO> ahhhh
[21:52] <GeO> I knew there was something wrong there
[21:52] <Fanfy> So is there like no way to fix this? Cause I have no idea how to do anything x.x
[21:52] <GeO> thanks
[21:52] <dsprc> satonio: you can also use alt+spacebar (assuming the feature is still used in unity) and itll pop up a menu as well
[21:53] <GeO> can you explain how the "rm" command is achieved with this : find . -type f -atime 28 -exec echo "will execute rm on {}" \;
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: Look at the path to the xml file it's complaining about.
[21:53] <GeO> because I order an echo but not really a remove...
[21:53] <serp_> Fanfy: install windows
[21:54] <Fanfy> serp: trying trying so hard lol I wish I had a valid windows os
[21:54] <belgianguy> Fanfy: could you link your last error again
[21:54] <serp_> it came with the laptop
[21:54] <GeO> ah
[21:54] <Fanfy> uhm what command was it the web page one or the ifconfig thing
[21:54] <GeO> it's actually find . -type f -atime 28 -exec rm {}
[21:55] <dsprc> belgianguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594347/
[21:55] <GeO> am I right ?
[21:55] <GeO> (+28)
[21:55] <belgianguy> Fanfy: that's your network interfaces
[21:55] <Fanfy> Not with mine...I didn't get any disk with my laptop
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> GeO: You might want to look at the find man page and use the delete option instead of calling RM.
[21:55] <dsprc> belgianguy: no wait! wrong one
[21:55] <Fanfy> network interfaces? I'm getting so confused
[21:55] <Fanfy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594360/ this one?
[21:55] <belgianguy> your localhost, ethernet (wired) eth0, wireless (wlan)
[21:55] <Fanfy> oooh
[21:56] <GeO> ah cool, find . -type f -atime +28 -remove
[21:56] <GeO> right ?
[21:57] <belgianguy> Fanfy: I'd say remove firefox
[21:57] <aaa801> i killed a process with ctrl+z the port that was binded to it hasnt been made free, any way to get the port back without restart?
[21:57] <belgianguy> sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[21:57] <belgianguy> and then sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:57] <Fanfy> but chrome does it too
[21:57] <Fanfy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594409/
[21:57] <Fanfy> that the one you wanted?
[21:57] <hiptobecubic> How does one reenable sshd at boot?
[21:58] <SecretFire> is it possible to run skyrim through wine?
[21:58] <jrib> GeO: there's no such thing as "-remove".  You should echo the results like bekks suggested to check you are deleting only what you want to
[21:58] <GeO> delete*
[21:58] <belgianguy> Fanfy: no, those are your network interfaces, they seem fine
[21:58] <Ben64> aaa801: ctrl+z is not "kill"
[21:58] <genii-around> !appdb | SecretFire
[21:58] <k1l_> hiptobecubic: install ssh server. its running on boot
[21:59] <aaa801> gah, whats it do =/
[21:59] <Ben64> aaa801: stop
[21:59] <Ben64> ctrl+c is kill
[21:59] <aaa801> ctrl+c was non responsive
[21:59] <belgianguy> hiptobecubic: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-managing-services-with-update-rc-d/
[21:59] <hiptobecubic> k1l_, ... sudo apt-get install sshd?
[21:59] <Fanfy> So what do you want I dunno what to send you
[21:59] <aaa801> sudo lsof -t -i:port to the rescue :)
[21:59] <Ben64> aaa801: then you can kill it with "kill"
[21:59] <k1l_> !ssh | hiptobecubic
[21:59] <belgianguy> Fanfy: could you do "which java"?
[22:00] <jrib> hiptobecubic, belgianguy: you shouldn't use update-rc.d to manage ssh since it's an upstart script
[22:00] <k1l_> !sshd | hiptobecubic
[22:00] <Fanfy> i typed in which java and got nothing
[22:00] <Fanfy> in the terminal right
[22:01] <belgianguy> Fanfy: yeah
[22:01] <aaa801> Ben64, slight issue it wont die http://i.imgur.com/7rrNiCl.png
[22:01] <Ben64> aaa801: what's the process
[22:01] <dsprc> hiptobecubic: if you already installed it and it was disabled do 'sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults'
[22:01] <aaa801> java
[22:01] <Fanfy> well i did 'java' and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594419/
[22:02] <jrib> dsprc: you shouldn't use update-rc.d to manage ssh since it's an upstart script
[22:02] <aaa801> Fanfy, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[22:03] <Fanfy> So I should download that?
[22:03] <aaa801> its a ppa entry
[22:03] <aaa801> just follow the guide to get java up
[22:03] <Ben64> aaa801: try "kill -9 8806"
[22:04] <aaa801> that worked thanks ben
[22:04] <Fanfy> uhm...x.x
[22:04] <aaa801> Fanfy, ?
[22:05] <Fanfy> i'm so confused...
[22:05] <aaa801> that guide cannot be simplier
[22:05] <aaa801> whats soo hard about it
[22:05] <dsprc> jrib: then what is the "ubuntu way" of managing it with upstart now?
[22:06] <Fanfy> you'd be surprised...i suck with linux
[22:06] <Fanfy> well lets see if it works o.o it's taking forever i'll prolly get 'problem loading page'
[22:06] <Fanfy> oh and there it is! -.-
[22:06] <jrib> dsprc: well in this case my guess is hiptobecubic never installed openssh-server.  For docs on upstart, see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook .  You need to actually edit files; there's no convenience script or directory structure like with sys-v-init
[22:06] <Fanfy> i'ma kill my laptop...
[22:07] <aaa801> it gives you the commands, you can c&p em
[22:07] <aaa801> :P
[22:08] <Fanfy> okay here we go..
[22:09] <Fanfy> well that sucks..
[22:10] <Fanfy> awesome system program detected error....-.- lovely i love you too computer..
[22:10] <Joupi> Fanfy: If you are confused about using the system and have a problem that takes more than 2 hours to solve and you don't want to spend the time sorting it out, reinstall all is sometimes easier. Learning will come in time...
[22:11] <Fanfy> ...i really don't want to wipe my hard drive clean and reinstall ubuntu...
[22:12] <Joupi> You don't need to wipe out home, just / but that depends on all you have installed on top of the base system
[22:13] <Fanfy> I just did updates...
[22:13] <Fanfy> that's all i really installed besides kvirc or whatever this is
[22:13] <Fanfy> I had 514 updates when I finished downloading the OS
[22:13] <julian-delphiki> Typical
[22:14] <Joupi> 2 hours, that's what it takes with updates if you have reasonable net connection
[22:15] <msev> Guys i installed ubuntu with wubi and now i want to increased the system disk space are those scripts fairly painless or could the f*** everything up?
[22:15] <Raydiation1> msev: dont use wubi
[22:16] <Raydiation> wubi is a hack to demo ubuntu
[22:16] <Gyhy> Hi
[22:16] <msev> Well now whats done is done i don't want to reinstall everything
[22:16] <hiptobecubic> msev, go back in time and install it as dual boot, of course
[22:16] <Gyhy> I have a new Lenovo B570e laptop and need help regarding UEFI
[22:17] <Gyhy> I can't find anything that indicates it is using UEFI or not, nothing in the BIOS Setup menu
[22:17] <bcbc2> msev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:17] <Fanfy> I seriously don't want to wait 2 hours either...
[22:17] <Gyhy> So I have installed Windows 7
[22:17] <Gyhy> and I checked the hard disk, it says it is an MBR disk
[22:18] <Gyhy> So this indicates that my Win7 is not booting in UEFI, right?
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: Why do you think UEFI is involved?
[22:18] <Gyhy> I read online that this model is using UEFI
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: UEFI replaces the BIOS, so if you have a BIOS menu...
[22:18] <msev> Bcb2 yea i was lookin at that..is it reliable?
[22:18] <Gyhy> It is in fact a Setup menu :)
[22:19] <Gyhy> I'm afraid that if I install Ubuntu as usual I might break my current Windows 7 installation!
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> msev: Any time you mess with partitions there's a chance of data loss.  Especially if humans are involved.  Make backups.
[22:20] <Gyhy> The disk on which Windows7 is installed is an MBR, does that indicate GRUB will boot normally?
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: Yes.
[22:20] <bekks> Gyhy: No.
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: ?
[22:20] <kalenjohnson> haha
[22:20] <Gyhy> Yes or No??!
[22:20] <bekks> The disk label type does not indicate anything about grub.
[22:20] <Fanfy> well the java thing may have worked....maybe not sure yet
[22:20] <bcbc2> msev: it creates a new copy - so you can test it fully without risk to the original
[22:21] <ylli> what time i don't time this
[22:21] <Fanfy> nope nevermind...
[22:21] <bcbc2> !tab | msev
[22:21] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: mbr is not a partition label, it stands for Master Boot Record, which is where both grub and the windows bootloader store their bootstrap code.
[22:21] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: I do know what a MBR is pretty well.
[22:22] <kalenjohnson> Usually Grub loads instead of MBR. MBR loads then it sort of ignores anything but Windows, doesn't it?
[22:22] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: And the existance of an MBR does not indicate anything about grub
[22:22] <kalenjohnson> *if MBR loads
[22:22] <bekks> kalenjohnson: No. Grub is loaded from the MBR, in a perfect setup.
[22:22] <k1l_> kalenjohnson: mbr is not the windows loader
[22:22] <kalenjohnson> my bad
[22:22] <jhutchins_wk> The MBR may contain lilo, grub, or windows bootloader code.  It is not a bootloader but a Record (that's what the R stands for).
[22:22] <msev> I'm typing from the phone..otherwise i know the tab trick :)..Do some of u guys use cinamon or are u hardcore unity fans?
[22:23] <Gyhy> Does booting from an MBR indicates that the PC can boot in BIOS/Legacy mode?
[22:23] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Correct. It may contain, there is no indication that it does, and thus there is no indication that grub will work correctly.
[22:23] <k1l_> msev: for cinnamon support see the mint support. for chat about what is best or what people use see #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: Yes.  It means it probably can't boot in any other mode.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Except this is the standard, normal configuration that grub works under.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: You are very confused.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: This question is whether UEFI is involved, and with this setup it clearly is not.
[22:24] <bcbc2> msev: it's more so my nick is highlighted and I don't miss your message
[22:24] <Gyhy> Can I say now that my PC does NOT use UEFI, then?
[22:24] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: I am not. :) I am just pointing out that the existance of an MBR does not indicate that grub actually will work correctly.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: Yes.
[22:25] <onto> Hi! I am using ubuntu 12.04 and I want one of my C++ programs to emit an audible beep; how do I do it?
[22:25] <Gyhy> but according to the following page, my laptop DOES support UEFI! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode
[22:25] <jhutchins_wk> Gyhy: Perhaps more pertinent is whether the partition table is MSDOS style or GPT, but I think you can be assured that it's not GPT.
[22:25] <onto> I tried the ncurses beep function to no avail
[22:26] <onto> I can hear a beep when I do echo -ne "\007" > /dev/tty1 on the command line
[22:26] <k1l_> onto: un-blacklist the beep
[22:27] <Gyhy> So do you suggest installing the Ubuntu x32 version as I used to do on my previous PCs??
[22:27] <kalenjohnson> Gyhy, what is your laptop?
[22:27] <k1l_> Gyhy: if your hardware can go with 64bit, go with 64bit
[22:27] <kostkon> onto, check libcanberra
[22:27] <Gyhy> Lenovo B570e , Core i3, 4G RAM
[22:27] <k1l_> Gyhy: go with 64bit
[22:28] <kalenjohnson> I agree with k1l_, mineaswell go with 64-bit
[22:28] <Gyhy> I tried to boot 12.04 x64 from CD but I get Kernel Panic!!
[22:29] <k1l_> Gyhy: try the 12.04.2 iso
[22:29] <Gyhy> First I got the message "Error: 'prefix' is not set"
[22:29] <k1l_> Gyhy: and if its not booting try:
[22:29] <k1l_> !nomodeset | Gyhy
[22:29] <Gyhy> OK, I'll go download 12.04.2 and try again..
[22:35] <Gyhy> 3 hours, 11 minutes remaining!
[22:36] <msev> If i gksudo some app it has the ability to save files on "host drive" (wubi)...is it possible to make that a global setting?
[22:36] <zimzum77> what up kids!!   gots a question, why when i'm on the internet my cou jumps so crazily??
[22:36] <zimzum77> cpu*
[22:37] <zimzum77> just internet tho
[22:37] <bcbc2> msev: you should have access to the /host without requiring sudo
[22:37] <Raydiation> msev: what do you mean?
[22:38] <Raydiation> what do you want to do
[22:38] <zimzum77> i wonder if there is a way to settle it down, it gets so laggy
[22:38] <Gyhy> When my laptop boots older ubuntu livecds normally, does that prove it supports booting in legacy mode?
[22:39] <bekks> Gyhy: No. It proves that it supports booting a CD.
[22:39] <msev> It does not allow me to copy things to host
[22:39] <Raydiation> msev: what is host
[22:39] <Raydiation>  / ?
[22:40] <bcbc2> msev: works fine on mine
[22:40] <onto> Hi! How do I make a beep from a c++ program? I tried ncurses beep(), std::cout << '\a' and none of them work. However, when I do echo -ne "\007" > /dev/tty1 on the terminal, it produces a beep :\
[22:40] <Raydiation> onto:
[22:40] <Raydiation>  #c++
[22:40] <msev> By host i mean windows disk
[22:41] <Raydiation> msev: where is your windows disk mounted
[22:41] <k1l_> msev: wubi is very difficult to support. most helpers recommend to go for a real native installation
[22:41] <msev> What do you mean by that?
[22:41] <Raydiation> msev: type in: mount
[22:41] <one> Why cant I download the kernel package for lucid using apt-get source?
[22:42] <Iruian> *Wave* I've run across an interesting issue with a raid 1 setup on a file server I'm working, where there must have encrypted portions of an old install that I didn't realize were there until now. I've ended up with this mess: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594496/ any way out without wiping / starting over?
[22:43] <onto> Raydiation: this seems to be an os-specific issue
[22:43] <msev> Raydiation: can't atm i'm not at my computer
[22:44] <one> what is the deal?
[22:44] <Raydiation> msev: you generally dont want to copy stuff where you cant copy it, id recommend to install ubuntu normally though
[22:47] <one> Ubuntu: What is the deal with the kernel?
[22:48] <agilevic> hello all
[22:48] <julian-delphiki> !patience | one
[22:50] <agilevic> suppose you are building a virtual machine with a pre-configured ubuntu system to give people to try your software. is file system encryption coupled with disabling single user mode and grub sufficient to protect from unauthorized access to files? in other words, if it where a physical hardware, how to protect files access even if someone could mount the drive into another machine?
[22:51] <Raydiation> agilevic: encrypt everything and lock the door well
[22:51] <agilevic> Raydiation: I want to leave the door open ;)
[22:52] <LittleFool> Hello, I just uninstalled a program witch I compiled by myself. now i want to use the package version but i always get "no such file or dir" when i try to use the command
[22:52] <julian-delphiki> agilevic: if they have physical access nothing is safe, imo
[23:00] <agilevic> julian-delphiki: one would need to be able to to reset the root's password then boot into the system and su - to the protected user. how could you reset the root's password (other than guessing it) if the file system is encrypted?
[23:01] <julian-delphiki> brute force :)
[23:01] <julian-delphiki> or, depends on how you're encrypting the FS
[23:01] <dsprc> agilevic: you could do some form of homomorphic crypto but then you would need bruce schneier, not a live cd :)
[23:02] <agilevic> julian-delphiki, dsprc: if brute force is the only way then I am OK with the solution
[23:03] <agilevic> julian-delphiki: what file system encryption methods are out there?
[23:05] <Juest> Where i can find xscreensaver support?
[23:06] <Forgone> when your booted into a persistent live usb, how do you save files to be persistent?
[23:06] <Juest> Forgone: you can't
[23:06] <Forgone> ??
[23:06] <Juest> officially you can't but there's hack
[23:06] <Juest> but idk about dat hack
[23:06] <Forgone> well then what's the pint of making it persistent?
[23:07] <Juest> wtf
[23:07] <dsprc> agilevic: im guessing you could create a tiny plaintext partition where shadow 'et al live and just symlink to them. bit hackish though.
[23:07] <Forgone> point*
[23:07] <Juest> Forgone: lol, you don't have a hdd?
[23:07] <Forgone> I do but I want to have a usb on hand
[23:07] <Juest> use usb for recovery
[23:07] <Juest> not for livecd usage
[23:08] <Forgone> OK
[23:09] <Juest> Guys, why some screensavers are slow or flash on black screen?
[23:09] <Juest> something with vblank?
[23:09] <Juest> i had to put show fps to make it run properly
[23:09] <Juest> a screensaver for example
[23:09] <Juest> anyone?
[23:09] <trojan> helo
[23:09] <dsprc> agilevic: or handle it in ram before you wrap it up and write back to disk. would still be vunerable
[23:10] <trojan> hey
[23:10] <Juest> !ot | trojan
[23:10] <k1l_> !rootirc | trojan
[23:10] <Juest> :P
[23:10] <trojan> how to hack outside network using metasploit
[23:10] <Juest> lol dude
[23:10] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  Where should I put scripts so that I can use them with sudo?
[23:10] <k1l_> trojan: no help for that in here
[23:11] <trojan> okay
[23:11] <Juest> trojan: you noob, Freenode is NOT hacker help
[23:11] <trojan> okay okay
[23:11] <k1l_> Juest: watch your language, please
[23:11] <trojan> i am new here
[23:11] <Juest> Type /quit NOW
[23:12] <k1l_> Juest: stop that!
[23:12] <trojan> what
[23:12] <trojan> i know the arabic language
[23:12] <Juest> GRRRRRRRRRR
[23:13] <trojan> اضحك يلعن ابوك
[23:13] <Juest> btw someone help me, why my graphics "hangs" on some cases
[23:13] <trojan> هههههههههههههههههه
[23:13] <FloodBot1> trojan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <Juest> !ar
[23:13] <Juest> !arabic
[23:13] <Juest> !arabic > trojan
[23:14] <Gyhy> مالك يا تروجن؟
[23:14] <Juest> wtf
[23:14] <trojan> تتكلم عربي
[23:14] <Juest> Stop the arabic
[23:14] <Gyhy> لأ
[23:14] <Juest> ............
[23:14] <trojan> ايوا كده
[23:14] <Juest> !ops arabic alert
[23:14] <k1l_> trojan: Gyhy stick to english in here please.
[23:15] <trojan> مو تقولي وات
[23:15] <Juest> GEEEZ
[23:15] <JokesOnYou77> Where should I put scripts so that I can use them with sudo?
[23:15] <Juest> !arabic | trojan, Gyhy
[23:15] <k1l_> Juest: calm down
[23:15] <Juest> k1l_: yea, help me?
[23:15] <trojan> i know
[23:15] <Gyhy> OK, we were just saying Hi!
[23:15] <Juest> lol
[23:16] <Juest> Go #ubuntu-arabic for that noobs
[23:16] <Juest> for hi see !ot
[23:16] <puss> since ubuntu 12.04 low latency kernels
[23:16] <trojan> are you hate us
[23:16] <Gyhy> trojan: momkin nistakhdim arabizi iza baddak!
[23:16] <puss> is that right'
[23:17] <trojan> نعم ايش كنت تقول
[23:17] <k1l_> trojan: and Gyhy last warning now. stick to english in here.
[23:17] <Gyhy> I'll stick to English :)
[23:18] <trojan> there is someone give me a warning
[23:19] <agilevic> dsprc: hmm, I don't follow. ideally I want to be able to give a certain user some admin rights (such as edit nginx config files in /etc, reboot, run certain scripts from /etc/init.d), which can generally be accomplished with correct sudo configuration. also, I don't want that user to read certain files, which again can be accomplished with chmod. unfortunately all of this can be circumvented if a superuser password is reset, which 
[23:19] <agilevic> dsprc: on another machine. hence my question about encryption.
[23:19] <Gyhy> trojan: you see this channel is dedicated to ubuntu support in English, so we should respect the rules :]
[23:19] <trojan> okay
[23:20] <Gyhy> We can use private messages if you like..
[23:20] <trojan> fuck the rules
[23:20] <trojan> hahahahahaha
[23:20] <GH0> Hello, I seem to have a python installation problem. I have been trying to get deluge running, and after spending all day talking with Cas, he has pointed me here. I have tried reinstalling all the python packages that are available on my system but  I am constantly getting this issue: http://pastebin.com/kxqihf96 If I try to purge: http://pastebin.com/4U2R6XQC If I just open a console [cont]
[23:20] <Gyhy> NO! Rules make this world better
[23:21] <GH0> window in python, I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/tAQHpkjs
[23:21] <agilevic> dsprc: full drive encryption is not an option becasue the system must stand up on its own (and giving away a passphrase defeats its purpose anyway)
[23:21] <GH0> I have tried doing purges, cleans, reinstall's, etc. I am unable to fix this with what I know.
[23:22] <gatojazz> greetz
[23:29] <Nanaharu> I was here yesterday, sadly to no avail. But I am now trying to install Ubuntu to my bare HDD on a computer I know will run ubuntu. Now since the problem may be drivers, is it possible to install the drivers now and then have it boot properly on a computer it was not booting properly before on?
[23:32] <aschei> Looks like this is a room full of zombies...:)
[23:35] <RB2> Good Evening. How do I prevent the kernel from automatically updating in 12.10? I've been hunting for an answer, but I'm apparently missing something.
[23:36] <k1l_> RB2: use apt-pinning
[23:36] <iceroot> RB2: why?
[23:36] <RB2> k1l_, thanks.
[23:36] <iceroot> RB2: just use apt-get upgrade insteadf of apt-get dist-upgrade and you will not get a newer kernel
[23:36] <RB2> iceroot, I have some strange issues with the binary nvidia driver, so I need to do those manually.
[23:36] <iceroot> RB2: but that is a security risc, because new updates are fixing security issues
[23:36] <Nanaharu> Can you install drivers for graphics cards without the graphic card in the computer?
[23:37] <iceroot> Nanaharu: sure
[23:37] <gaara_akash> has anyone done any ubuntu touch development here?
[23:37] <iceroot> Nanaharu: you can install every package, doesnt matter if you have the hardware or not
[23:38] <iceroot> gaara_akash: #ubuntu-devel
[23:38] <RB2> iceroot, if it updates the kernel automatically, it takes much longer for me to fix it again than to just do it manually. ;)
[23:38] <Nanaharu> Iceroot : So if I were to install ubuntu  onto a hard drive from a different computer, install the proper drivers and then plug in the it back into the machine I was having difficulties with, it should work?
[23:38] <iceroot> Nanaharu: normally yes
[23:38] <Nanaharu> iceroot : well I've tried everything else...
[23:38] <gaara_akash> iceroot, thanks
[23:38] <iceroot> Nanaharu: but maybe the initial system will not work anymore because maybe the driver is doing changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:39] <Nanaharu> iceroot : is there anyway to fix that?
[23:39] <JokesOnYou77> Where should I put scripts so that I can use them with sudo?
[23:39] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: you can put them everywhere, sudo will always work with them
[23:40] <iceroot> Nanaharu: redo the changes in xorg.conf if there are changes
[23:40] <iceroot> undo
[23:40] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot, sorry, should have been more specific.  I mean so that I don't have to specify an absolute path or be in the same directory.
[23:41] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: /usr/local/bin for example
[23:41] <Nanaharu> iceroot : awesome I shall keep that in mind... by chance could you tell me how to install NVIDIA GTX drivers?
[23:41] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot, ty
[23:41] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: echo $PATH wil show the paths
[23:41] <iceroot> !nvidia | Nanaharu
[23:41] <Nanaharu> iceroot : thanks so much~!
[23:42] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot, will that show the path for sudo? My understanding is that sudo uses a fresh path, and I'm not actually sure what's in that path
[23:43] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot, figured it out.  Thank you
[23:43] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: sudo -i; echo $PATH
[23:43] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: that is the PATH defined for root
[23:44] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: but /usr/local/bin is fine in that case
[23:44] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot, ty
[23:52] <elisa87> I am installing that supports gcc 4.3 while my gcc version is 4.6. How can I downgrade it?
[23:53] <GH0> Hello, I seem to have a python installation problem. I have been trying to get deluge running, and after spending all day talking with Cas, he has pointed me here. I have tried reinstalling all the python packages that are available on my system but  I am constantly getting this issue: http://pastebin.com/kxqihf96 If I try to purge: http://pastebin.com/4U2R6XQC If I just open a console [cont]
[23:53] <GH0> window in python, I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/tAQHpkjs
[23:53] <GH0> I have tried doing purges, cleans, reinstall's, etc. I am unable to fix this with what I know.
[23:54] <somsip> !pastebin