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chuckyesHi people01:00
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chuckyesDoes anyone know why after installing xubuntu,it still takes me to install xubuntu screen after reboot?01:02
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Cheri703did you remove your installation media? usb or cd?01:09
Cheri703chuckyes: ^^01:10
chuckyesi used usb to install and i use it to boot from it01:13
chuckyesguess i can try booting without usb01:14
chuckyes:)01:14
Cheri703you installed TO the usb or installed FROM the usb?01:15
craigbass1976I've got some weirdness going on... When I have a window open, there's no title section at the top.  There's also nothing in the Window Buttons section of the panel to indicate that I have said window open.01:16
craigbass1976I can't resize anything either, and Alt+Tab doesn't switch windows.  I've currently got Thunderbird open, but it's in front of xchat and I can only see what I'm typing and the last few things others have said.01:17
Cheri703craigbass1976: have you tried rebooting?01:18
craigbass1976Cheri703, It's a Windows fix, but yes, and it didn't help.01:19
craigbass1976Cheri703, I didn't try xfce sessino vs xubuntu session though... brb01:19
craigbass1976Cheri703, it doesnt' matter.  It IS only my account though, so I guess all of XFCE isn't hosed...01:22
Cheri703did you change themes?01:22
craigbass1976Maybe wallpaper, but that would have been it.01:22
Cheri703hmm...sorry, I don't know what could cause that. hang out for a bit and maybe someone else will though.01:23
craigbass1976Cheri703, what can I delete after I log out (and come back in from a Ctrl Alt F1) that will "reset" things for me?01:24
craigbass1976ls -a01:24
Cheri703honestly, no idea01:24
craigbass1976Wow, that was really weird.  I did a mv xfce4 xfce4.bak in ~/.config and re logged in.  Brandy new profile, but still with the messed up windows.01:28
craigbass1976I'm stuck whenever anyone gets a chance to help.01:29
dsranyone know why 'vgchange -a n test' doesn't deactivate all the LVs in test? After the vgchange I run lvscan and all the LVs show as active01:32
craigbass1976Cheri703, You still there?02:19
Cheri703yup02:19
craigbass1976xfwm must have crashed.  Alt+F2, then xfwm4 --display=:0.0 --replace gave me title bars and footers back.02:20
Cheri703that's good!02:20
craigbass1976Weird that it was persistent after a reboot and a wip of my xfce4 profile, AND didn't affect either my wife's or son's profile...02:20
craigbass1976I was worried it was a problem with the registry...02:21
craigbass1976nyuck nyuck nyuck02:21
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andrel_Hi! I'm trying to rebind two keys on my keyboard, and it only works one way04:16
nukkeandrel_: what way? also, how would you like to rebind them?04:24
andrel_Only one key changes04:24
andrel_I would like my Alt Gr to my left Alt, and my Alt_L to that key04:24
andrel_http://pastebin.com/RDtSB3nD using the apple keyboard and would like to move the alt key as I get brackets and stuff on it04:25
andrel_Got those values from "xmodmap -pke" and just switched them around04:26
nukkehave you tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys04:27
andrel_Yeah! That's pretty much how I did it04:28
connor__I'm using a USB headset in Xubuntu and the volume up/down button attached to the cord is controlling my external speakers volume but not my headsets volume. How do I fix this?04:36
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sidsHi, I have installed xubuntu 12.04 amd64 on my pc with i5, 4GB RAM, 500GB disk, 1GB graphics. Every application open more than 5-10 sec after being clicked. Even right click on desktop takes 2-3 sec to show menu. Any help?07:33
SunStarthats usually something to do with the disk but something tells me thats not your issue07:35
SunStarinstall iotop to watch disk usage and open up the task manager to watch what happens during the lag07:35
sidsin task manager,  cpu usage is ok only. max 5-10 %07:39
sidsi 'll try iotop07:40
SunStarwhile ur at it you may want to check the S.M.A.R.T. log: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools07:41
baizonsids: and check with "top" if a process is using much resources07:44
MrEAZHello07:53
nukkesup07:54
MrEAZIs it possible to make a notice here about a link-error in software-center?07:54
MrEAZIt's about the link to the website of Gmount-iso, which is currently https://launchpad.net/gmount-iso07:56
nukkeask #xubuntu-devel instead07:58
MrEAZok thnx08:00
sidsiotop and top giving normal results only.. still its lagging :/08:19
SunStarit wouldnt happen to be a 2400 or 5400 RPM mechanical drive would it?08:20
sids5400 rpm08:21
sidsit works fine in windows 7, even 808:21
SunStardoes it always have trouble with menus? or does it run smooth once its cached?08:21
sidsalways08:21
sidsif i right click on desktop, menu appears 2-3 sec later08:23
sidswhile hard disk and cpu use is near 2 %08:23
SunStarodd. like i said i've seen that but it had always been an issue with the disk08:23
SunStarid check /var/log/syslog for errors08:25
sidsno error as such08:28
sidsBut I don't think 5400 RPM disk is too less for xubuntu to work properly. Is it?08:28
SunStarwell i need sleep, if no one else is around in here, hit up the forum or maybe #ubuntu08:28
sidsya sure. Thanks :)08:28
SunStar5400 will give a delay yes but once its cached that goes away08:29
SunStarbut not a 3 second delay unless it has spun down by power management08:29
rocklobsterReinstalling Ubuntu for like the 7th time, this time side by side with the same version of ubuntu. I love it.08:58
xubuntu962Hello09:57
xubuntu962Can anyone tell me why my newly installed xubuntu is "freezing" when browsing in chromium and firefox..09:59
xubuntu962When i open a new tab it wont let me click on links and I have to copy the site adresse and close the browser and try again until it freezes again..10:01
baizonxubuntu962: check your system utilisation10:14
baizonwhile doing this10:14
xubuntu428helo11:07
xubuntu428I heve problem is instalation with wifi11:07
xubuntu428Stops on the choice of network11:09
xubuntu428This ewidenty a problem in Xubuntu 12.10 installation11:10
Makaorhey xubuntu12:40
VilmaHello.12:46
xubuntu632hi there... i'm using latest xubunt. strange issue lately: when i wrote SQL statements for mysql (phpmyadmin and cli) i got syntax errors. but the syntax was ok. in the end it was because of some strange whitespaces. i don't know if this is a utf8 issue13:09
xubuntu632if i do the smae on my notebook (ubunt), no problem at all. i couldnt find out what character it is, but it's a white space13:10
xubuntu632it's a 50:50 chance that the stamements written on xubuntu are not "contaminated" whit strange whitespaces. the only way to solve this is to delete and rewrite all spaces in the code. and then check again13:13
GridCubexubuntu632, using leafpad?13:14
knomexubuntu632, those whitespaces appear when you press shift+space13:15
xubuntu632no first i wrote dircet into phpmyadmin. after some occurances of this proplem i swaped to xterm + mysql cli => same issue13:15
xubuntu632hm but i did not press shift... it's a USB keyboard on mac mini... maybe some input device troubles? but i never hat unexpected capital letters...13:17
xubuntu632ah wait... maybe it's an issue of gedit? i wrote parts of the code there and then copy/pasted it13:19
GridCubedont know13:19
xubuntu632yea it's strange13:21
xfceis there any news when 13.04 will be out ?14:01
Pici!schedule-#ubuntu+114:01
ubottuRaring Ringtail (13.04) release milestones can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule14:01
xfceis the official one ?14:02
xfcei mean, why is not on the main site ?14:02
PiciThat is the official schedule, yes.14:02
PiciThat is the main site.14:02
xfceoh tnx14:02
xfcegona download it right now14:02
Piciwhat?14:02
Picier, 13.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 until it is released.14:02
xfceso is that the official release or its something else ?14:03
GridCubewhat is14:03
PiciI provided a link to the release schedule of 13.04.  The actual release happens on April 25th14:04
xfce25 april14:04
xfcenot that far anyway14:04
xfcetnx pici14:04
gustavo_bom dia! estou com dificuldade em instalar uma impressora no xubuntu. a marca da impressora é hp laserjet p110214:18
knome!es | gustavo_14:19
ubottugustavo_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.14:19
gustavo_ok gracias14:20
GridCubeactually14:21
GridCubethat was pt14:21
bensedhi guys14:22
bensedjust have one question about14:22
bensedthe default music player in xubuntu14:22
GridCubeyes14:22
* GridCube will keeps his opinions at bay14:22
bensedis it any good and why was it chosen instead of rhythmbox f.e.14:22
bensed?14:23
* GridCube will remain out of this then14:23
knomebensed, it was chosen because we think it is the best one.14:23
knomewell, not all of us, but collectively.14:23
bensedaha, i understand. is it lighterweight than rhythmbox? and last but not least - is xubuntu good for a not so old machine? thank you and forgive a fool, please >D14:25
knomei believe it's more lightweight than rhythmbox too. yes, xubuntu works well on modern machines as well14:26
bensedthanks guys! now i-m off to trying it out!14:27
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drc I've never used a 'buntu LTS before, have they historically push a major kernel change on the points (not a 3.2.30 to 3.2.33, but rather the 3.2 to 3.5) ?16:27
xubuntu371hji16:29
xubuntu371hi16:30
xubuntu371herrro?16:31
GridCube!hi | xubuntu37116:31
ubottuxubuntu371: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!16:31
xubuntu371uhh thanks16:31
xubuntu371so im new to xubuntu and wanna run a game but it tells me its not an executable program. any ideas?16:32
xubuntu371ive tried all the terminal stuff with no luck btw16:32
bazhangwhat game16:33
xubuntu371its just minecraft and a game called amnesia16:33
bazhangnative or windows16:33
xubuntu371what do you mean?16:33
bazhang!info amnesia16:34
ubottuPackage amnesia does not exist in quantal16:34
PiciIs the game made for Windows or do they distribute a version for Linux?16:34
xubuntu371im pretty they make it for linux too16:34
bazhanggot a link?16:35
GridCube!find amnesia16:35
ubottuFile amnesia found in cadabra16:35
xubuntu371no, i got it a while ago. i can try to find it if you want16:36
drciirc they do make a linux version of amnesia, but doe he have the linux or the windows version?16:36
xubuntu371i downloaded a version supposedly for linux16:36
GridCubein any case xubuntu371 to run minecraft just do >> java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar <<16:36
drcxubuntu371: what is the exact/full name of the file you are trying to use?  is it an EXE file?16:36
drcxubuntu371: ok, nevermind :)16:37
GridCubexubuntu371, can we have a link to this amnesia game please?16:38
xubuntu371i dont have a link for it right now, i can try finding it if you want16:39
xubuntu371http://www.downloadplex.com/Linux/Network-Internet/Other/Download-amnesia-for-linux_255821.html Try that16:39
xubuntu371no, i think that one works. but the minecraft doesnt16:40
GridCubexubuntu371, have you tried what i told you to try?16:41
GridCubexubuntu371, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/amnesia/16:43
finch_I have a d800 dell laptop running XU12.04. I cannot get the internal wireless card to work. I've followed instruction at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access. When install the b43legacy driver, I am unable to see the driver in the Additional Driver application. Any ideas of what to try next?19:24
finch_Here is my wireless card info: 02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 02)19:26
holsteinfinch_: i usually just try them all, and see what works19:28
finch_holstein: meaning... wl, b43, brcmsmac and brcmfmac in addition to b43legacy? Or others? It seems that the Card ID seems to only apply to b43legacy.19:30
holsteinfinch_: i just try them, til something works19:31
finch_And, is there a way I can check to see if the card is actually functioning?19:31
holsteinfinch_: you can try in a fully supported os with a fully supported drive.. but lemme just look around for a minute19:31
holstein!broadcom19:31
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx19:31
SunStarping it19:32
finch_SunStar: what would be the argument for the ping?19:33
holsteinwont be able to ping it if its not getting an address19:33
holsteinfinch_: you've tried the open one?19:34
finch_ubottu: I was on that page. I followed the instructions there, but I only have a wired connection. I can't seem to see any wireless routers, etc.19:34
ubottufinch_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:34
SunStarwould pinging 127 range return if you dont have a NIC?19:34
finch_ubottu: no problem.19:34
holsteinfinch_: i just linked that for my own refernce.. ubottu is a bot19:35
holsteinfinch_: what happens when you run sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter and reboot?19:35
finch_SunStar: I'm new to all this stuff. So, in terminal I type: "ping ?" What do I enter for ?19:35
SunStar127.0.0.1 shouldnt return a ping if there is no NIC19:36
finch_holstein: I did that and when opening additional hardware, only see the NVIDIA graphics card.19:36
holsteinfinch_: and the open driver?19:36
finch_holstein: open driver? what does that mean?19:37
finch_finch@finch:~$ ping 127.0.0.119:38
finch_PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.19:38
finch_64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.041 ms19:38
holsteinfinch_: are you familiar with XFCE? are you sure the open driver isnt working?19:38
finch_holstein: I'm not familiar with xfce. How would I check it?19:39
holsteinfinch_: what are you familiar with? i might load up a live CD with something you have used before and see what is going on19:40
finch_holstein: I've used Mint7 on this laptop before. I've not seen the wireless card work on this laptop yet. I got the laptop with no HD as a hand-me-down.19:42
finch_holstein: I flipped it over and opened the compartment this a.m. and found that there IS a wireless card and the antenna connectors are connected.19:42
holsteinfinch_: might be worth some time to install windows and test with the actual native supported driver/os to be sure the hardware works.. or try the windows driver with ndisgtk19:43
finch_holstein: I'm currently using XU12.04 on this laptop I'm trying to access the card.19:43
holsteinfinch_: sure, and im just trying to reduce variables.. if you have never used xubuntu or XFCE to connect wifi, then that is something that could be hanging you up19:44
finch_holstein: I have no windows at all. But that would make sense.19:44
finch_holstein: I'll see if I can get a CD of Windows to do that test. Thanks for your help.19:46
holsteinfinch_: or, just download the driver19:46
holstein!info ndisgtk19:46
ubottundisgtk (source: ndisgtk): graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (quantal), package size 20 kB, installed size 864 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)19:46
finch_OK, I just installed ndisgtk. Now what? sorry for the newbie questions.19:49
holsteinfinch_: you go and download the widnows driver and point the ndisGUI to it19:49
finch_holstein: followed the suggestions at http://www.stchman.com/install_ndis_broadcom.html. I will now reboot and cross my fingers, unless you first have other suggestions.19:56
holsteinfinch_: i would download the driver for your device for windows.. and literally open ndisgtk and point to the driver you downloaded19:57
holsteinfinch_: its basically a gui that does all of that for you19:57
holstein!feisty19:58
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 19th, 2008. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.19:58
holstein^^ notice that that guide is for ubuntu 7.04 finch_ ..since then, the process has become streamlined, and usually not necessary19:58
* Vilma Buonasera.19:59
holsteinits not something i would worry much with, since *if* you decide to install windows to test the hardware, you'll need the driver.. just grab it, and test with ndisgtk. shouldnt take more than a few minutes19:59
finch_Hmmm. I didn't notice that :( So, streamlined doesn't seem to be working for me.19:59
holsteinfinch_: you open ndisgtk and navigate to the driver you downloaded20:00
holsteinfinch_: if you downloaded the proper driver, and you are using ndisgtk to try and use it with your broadcom device, then i would say this is another step pointing to broken hardware20:01
finch_I'm not sure if I have the proper driver. I typed "sudo ndisgtk" in terminal and now have an application that I can use to install Windows drivers. However, I just see lots of gzip files.20:04
finch_I want to have the correct driver first and am not sure I have it.20:04
holsteinfinch_: you'll need to search documentation for that specific device20:06
holsteinif i had a dell 1201 or whatever i would search the dell site20:06
finch_holstein: I'm on it.20:06
holsteinfinch_: then, you get the driver for your device and try it.. and as i said, if it doenst work, then that is a test that supports bad hardware20:07
xubuntu632hm this is realy strange: when i edit text files (gedit or in phpmyadmin SQL form) then from time to time a "no break space" is inserted in place of normal space (unicode C2 A0) - why is this?20:12
Pizza90i wonder why canonical releases lts version bugged with very annoying bugs like the one with jockey (fixed in the latest version) or the one about thunar (still open), should not be the lts more polished?..20:21
holstein!contribute20:21
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Xubuntu see: http://xubuntu.org/devel and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate20:21
holstein!bugs20:22
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:22
holsteinPizza90: canonnical really just funds the development and release...20:22
TheSheepPizza90: bugs happen, the point of lts is that they get fixed, that's what support means20:22
finch_holstein: thanks for your help. But, I'm a little clueless about how to get the right driver for my card. Since Xubuntu doesn't recognize it right away, I'm assuming it's a hardware issue. I'm going to try another card.20:23
holsteinfinch_: if you have another card handy, thats a good troubleshooting step..20:24
Pizza90i am not talking about glitches or little frills, i am talking about "important bugs" like the one with jokey which made the system very slow or this one with thunar that hangs on when you browse the folder.. i dont want to sound criticizing but if lts have these not-so-little bugs (with report filled by months) i dont see how they can be labeled as stable20:24
TheSheepPizza90: what are you trying to say?20:25
TheSheepPizza90: what's your point?20:25
TheSheepPizza90: are you trying to imply that this is intentional?20:26
Pizza90TheSheep: that i have some spare time and i dont mind typing in the terminal, i also have another pc i can use, but surely if canonical had spent more time on these old bugs rather than finding new fonts or new icons..20:26
TheSheepPizza90: canonical doesn't spend time on xubuntu20:26
holsteinPizza90: cononnical really just funds the development.. they are not responsible for actual support like that20:26
Pizza90i see20:27
Pizza90that's why it has only 3 years of support instea dof 5 (i suppose)20:27
holstein5 years20:27
Pizza90i read xubuntu had only 3 years of support20:27
knomeholstein, Pizza90: xubuntu lts has 3 years support20:29
knomehowever, since ubuntu has 5, some of the core packages will be supported for the whole 5 years20:29
holsteinyeah.. not the xubuntu specific stuff though20:29
Pizza90i dont want to sound a smartpants or annoying but releasing a version with this kind of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/775117 is not a nice advertisement.. i use xubuntu because i like it but seeing these bugs reported almost 2 years ago and still not fixed it's not fun :/20:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 775117 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Thunar hangs on first launch of each session" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:30
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holsteinPizza90: none of it is an "advertisment" though.. its just a commmunity doing what it can.. you are welcome to get envolved20:31
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Pizza90holstein: i know that volounteers do what they can but maybe would be better working first on these bugs and then care about new icons or stuff like that?20:32
holsteinPizza90: i say that as a member who is actually *not* that involved in actual development.. but maintaining bugs like that in apps that are not used by the main distro can be challenging20:32
holsteinPizza90: sure.. but what about skill level? as a volunteer, i could make an icon.. i dont know the first thing about the bug you linked though20:33
Pizza90so canonical let xubuntu and kubuntu to the community?20:33
knomePizza90, you got to realize it's a doacracy - those who do, decide...20:33
knomexubuntu has always been a community project20:33
holsteinPizza90: canonnical funds development.. not xubuntu development..20:34
Pizza90holstein: true too but then wasn't better releasing it 2 months later and fix these "critical" bugs?20:34
Pizza90oh i see20:34
holsteinPizza90: it gets released.. the versions get release, or they arent versions20:34
holsteinPizza90: there are guidelines to being an "official" spin-off.. and you cant say "give us a few more weeks".. plus, whos is doing to do what in those few weeks?20:35
holsteinwe have no one on salary "responsible" for it.. the packages are in a state. tests are made. the community does what it does and the release happens20:36
Pizza90awh then it's the guidelines to being an "official" spin-off that suck.. if i could code i would help but that one with thunar is the second very annoying bug that i got with an lts (together with the jokey's one that got fixed)20:38
Pizza90could not xubuntu go for the gsoc?20:39
holsteingsoc?20:39
holsteingoogle summer of code?20:39
knomei don't think we have the infrastructure for that20:40
Pizza90yes20:40
Pizza90oh20:40
knomexubuntu is a really small team, we can't do everything20:40
holsteinanyone is able to contribute.. but there are rules to what and how things get in the official repos.. and we can only include what is in the official repos20:40
Pizza90too bad, imo xubuntu is better than ubuntu20:40
holstein'better' is a matter of opinion.. but in actuality, xubuntu *is* ubuntu20:40
Pizza90yes of course, better for my case20:42
Pizza90since i use pc and not a tablet :P20:42
holsteincase?20:42
Pizza90my situation*20:42
holsteinwhats your situtation?20:42
Pizza90sorry i am not a native speaker20:42
holsteinPizza90: no worries.. you are speaking well20:43
knomeholstein, Pizza90: can you take the discussion to #xubuntu-offtopic if it's not support-related? thanks :)20:43
Pizza90i have a 4:3 screen and i use pc for normal things (internet,mails,videos,chatting) but i dont like the tablet-style fashion that hit OSes in these days :)20:43
Pizza90knome: sure, sorry!:)20:43
knomethanks20:44
Pizza90knome: yw20:44
Pizza90knome: do you have idea why i can't execute a file labeled as "executable" in the proprierties?21:29
Pizza90if i click on it nothing happens, same thing if i right click it and then "execture" it21:30
Peyamhi21:37
Peyamalt+space doesnt not work in google chrome21:37
Peyamanybody knows how to solve this problem?21:37
FarisHas anyone tried to run dungeon defenders in a  64bit system ?21:43
submanI need to install a NVIDIA driver but it won't install because an X-session is running.  How do I quit and install this new driver?21:46
genii-aroundsubman: logout, ctrl-alt-f1, login at console, sudo stop lightdm && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-source dkms && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && sudo sync && sudo start lightdm  ...then alt-f6 , login again, etc22:05
genii-aroundHm22:05
X-warriorIs it possible to add other hardware monitor to panel? I would like something similar to ubuntu, where the graph goes moving, on horizontal... not this "bar ones"22:46

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