[00:26] <cdoublejj> any one know what version open gl the buntu OSes are running/supporting ? i was thinking it was newer version than OSX supports
[00:37] <phiscribe> cdoublejj, i have lubuntu 12.10 if i run glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version" i get this:  OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0.2
[00:38] <cdoublejj> whoa holy crap linux us still stuck on 2.11? O_0
[00:38] <cdoublejj> 2.1*
[00:39] <phiscribe> 13.04 is probably diff
[00:40] <phiscribe> and i probably have a different view about bleeding edge than you do.  i think the rapid development is killing linux
[00:40] <phiscribe> in the os anyway.  different story for apps
[00:41] <cdoublejj> 13.04!!!!???
[00:42] <phiscribe> 13.04 is raring ringtail its in beta
[00:42] <cdoublejj> i supposes as long as i can upgrade it witho ut having to update grub or mess up my triple booth
[00:42] <cdoublejj> whats is it supposed to bring and does it use more ram that 12.10 or 12.04?
[00:43] <phiscribe> not sure.  and do you mean use or require more ram.  sometimes performance is better the more ram an os uses.
[00:43] <cdoublejj> usage
[00:43] <cdoublejj> usualy it idles at 100 ish mb when doing nothing
[00:44] <phiscribe> if you could load every doc mp3 vid and game into ram then it would all be available, be great for performance.  so how much ram a system uses at idle doesnt say much about whats happening
[00:44] <phiscribe> but i think they are fixing some memoy leaks which are always bad
[00:45] <phiscribe> they say lightdm has dropped to under 1mb of mem from 26mb
[00:45] <phiscribe> and they have moved some process to exit on idle
[00:47] <deluge> did anyone experience a netsplit ?
[00:48] <phiscribe> just then?  didnt see a netsplit
[00:48] <deluge> about 10 mins ago
[00:49] <phiscribe> i have all my join parts disabled
[00:49] <deluge> o
[00:50] <phiscribe> might be why i didnt see anything lol (forgot i had them off)
[01:04] <Unit193> deluge: Yes, pretty normal.  You were on the split side.
[01:04] <deluge> oh ok ty
[01:48] <cdoublejj> " lightdm" ???
[01:50] <Unit193> What about it?
[01:52] <cdoublejj> what the heck is it?
[01:54] <cdoublejj> i though lubuntu was LXDE
[01:56] <phiscribe> you asked about the ubuntu's
[01:57] <phiscribe> not all of 13.04 will apply to lubuntu
[01:57] <cdoublejj> aaahhh okay
[02:00] <Unit193> cdoublejj: It's the desktop manager, but Lubuntu does use LXDE.
[02:00] <Unit193> !lightdm
[02:00] <Unit193> ubottu: fail
[05:05] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. I have booted in to a two x screen setup and x starts alright but no desktop or panel loads... When i try to start with compiz --replace or lxpanel it says that: Cannot find display..? what would be sensible to do now?
[10:47] <cdoublejj> 2 mil, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera
[10:54] <tobiasBora> Hello!
[10:55] <Silverlion> bon jour tobiasBora
[10:56] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: is it a french channel ?
[10:56] <Silverlion> tobiasBora: not at all ^^ i just saw that you logged in from a french host
[10:57] <tobiasBora> I would like just say that in the lubuntu installer, there is a strange behaviour when we choose the configuration : the "french" keyboard is in the section "belge", and in french it is the qwerty keyboard which is given (French Canada), and it's a bit... strange ^^
[10:58] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: oh right ^^ So your speak a bit french ?
[11:05] <Silverlion> tobiasBora: not much ^^
[11:06] <tobiasBora> ok :-P
[11:08] <Silverlion> tobiasBora: you might want to send an email to 	lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com about the bug you found
[11:15] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: Thanks I'll do it
[11:19] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: do I must to subscribe or I can just send the email ?
[11:19] <Silverlion> don't know exactly but as i am using lubuntu as well it's always handy to have the mailing list available
[11:28] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: oh in fact I wonder if the problem doesn't come from a refresh problem...
[11:29] <Silverlion> pAt_: maybe you can help out?
[11:29] <Unit193> Silverlion: Not exactly nice to randomly ping people that join (and also don't know the context)
[11:30] <Unit193> tobiasBora: What version of Lubuntu?
[11:31] <tobiasBora> Unit193: The last one 12.10. But I think it's only because my brother went on "French canada" and after came back in "french", but the display didn't refreh
[11:31] <tobiasBora> *refresh
[11:33] <Silverlion> Unit193: i was going to give him the context on respond
[11:36] <tobiasBora> I've a little question : why by default is chromium installed ? Is it for ideology or for performances ?
[11:49] <tobiasBora> Yes it was indeed a display problem, I tried again and it don't cause any trouble. Thanks !
[13:35] <tobiasBora> I tried to install lubuntu but the installation ended with a black screen, so after 30mn I decided to reboot and try : I've an error with "GRUB : error 2". Do you know if I can repair grub or if It's better to do an other installation ?
[13:39] <Silverlion> tobiasBora: it is not unusual that lubuntu installation takes more then one hour
[13:39] <Silverlion> that happens when the installation tries to download all updates during the installation.
[13:40] <Silverlion> if you run the installation again with the point "install updates during the installation" disabled then it might work but still need more then 30 mins
[13:41] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: yes I've unselected it after, but the black screen (with only the mouse visible) is during the package download ?
[13:42] <Silverlion> in that case i have no solution but during the installation process i have had several black screens
[13:46] <tobiasBora> Silverlion: ok tanks. I'll try again and I'll tell you if it works !
[13:47] <Unit193> You may want to check the md5sum or "Check CD for defects", that's not exactly normal.  You can also try to repair.
[13:47] <Unit193> !grub
[13:50] <tobiasBora> I've again a black screen with only the "wait mouse". I'll wait for one hour and if it doesn't works, I'll try to reboot and repair grub with bootrepair. Thanks for the links Unit193
[13:55] <tobiasBora> And we cannot use a non graphic installation with the classic iso file ?
[16:56] <reddos> qui si parla it
[16:57] <reddos> sapete dirmi il link dove ce il supporto in lingua it per lubuntu grazie
[17:05] <phillw> reddos: ItalianSito/Documentazione/Forum: ubuntu-it.org   IRC: #ubuntu-it on irc.freenode.net per il Supporto in Italiano.   Mailing list: Lista ubuntu-it
[17:06] <reddos> ok grazie
[17:16] <redtape-renegade> Can I get conky running on Lubuntu ?
[17:47] <phillw> redtape-renegade: I believe it has been done, but does pull in a lot of extra stuff.
[18:00] <phillw> redtape-renegade: I've just looked up the link, someone has posted that it no longer works. If you ask on the mailing list, I'll ask Jackson next tinme he's on (Australian time) if he has found a new link.
[18:18] <cerebrate> lxle
[18:18] <cerebrate> is lxle here
[18:19] <cerebrate> we could see if his style of lubuntu supports conky
[18:19]  * wxl jumps in the middle
[18:19] <wxl> i'm pretty sure there are others who have used conky with lubuntu
[18:28] <inductiveload> i have
[18:29] <inductiveload> it worked, but i had to use some wmctrl trickery to pin it down on the desktop, but prevent the minimise all windows button minimising it
[18:30] <inductiveload> but it used a lot of resources doing all the kewl stuff it had to do to justify its existence
[18:30] <inductiveload> so i scrapped it
[22:59] <Kris_away> I'm working  on a program that depends on wayland and I'm curious, will lxde be going wayland like a lot of guys or holding back and waiting for mir?
[23:09] <redtape-renegade> prob.ly mir .. but I'm a toad so don't ask me. rebbit.
[23:23] <phillw> Kris_away: redtape-renegade lubuntu will decide it self what it will use in the future, we do not use Unity nor are we required to use any other part.
[23:37] <phillw> Kris_away: let me tell you one thing? Lubuntu 13.04 is now commited, we as with all flavours, are under feature freeze so that no major alterations can be made. Once 13.04 is released, lubuntu will re open for discussions as to what happens in the future (13.10)
[23:45] <jirido> Hi. i'v screwed up my font settings fiddling with dual view's and so on and now to get things right i wonder what the right dpi settings are..? both the ones in xorg.conf and the ones set with xrandr.. Thanks
[23:57] <jirido> no answer needed :)