| jrgifford | thafreak: got a link? | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| jrgifford | i know someone who might be looking. | 00:20 |
| jrgifford | paultag: oh man, way to be all sad and serious about it. | 01:00 |
| paultag | I don't really see this as funny myself | 01:01 |
| paultag | a lot of really smart people are leaving because of egos. | 01:01 |
| jrgifford | paultag: but while i appreciate the invite, i'm still going to be over here. yes, i am concerned, yes, i have started to make sure all my stuff works on CentOS and debian, but i'm also waiting. | 01:01 |
| paultag | I want to make sure they're welcomed into Debian | 01:01 |
| paultag | I'm still here, jrgifford | 01:01 |
| paultag | even though I left over a year ago. | 01:01 |
| paultag | not only the state, but the distro | 01:02 |
| jrgifford | yeah | 01:02 |
| jrgifford | i probably should swap the SSD for my tinkering HDD, and play around with debian | 01:02 |
| jrgifford | so here's my question | 01:03 |
| jrgifford | is squeeze testing, or stable? | 01:04 |
| jrgifford | right now. | 01:04 |
| jrgifford | because i can't find an answer. maybe i'm googling the wrong way. | 01:04 |
| paultag | I don't use any of those | 01:04 |
| paultag | I use Unstable (sid) | 01:04 |
| paultag | plus Experimental | 01:04 |
| jrgifford | i'd like to try testing first, | 01:04 |
| paultag | if you'd like | 01:04 |
| jrgifford | and then move to sid later | 01:04 |
| paultag | well | 01:04 |
| paultag | squeeze is stable, jrgifford | 01:04 |
| paultag | so fix your list :) | 01:04 |
| paultag | jrgifford: testing is nice, and there's a nightly d-i image for netboot and straight iso | 01:05 |
| Unit193 | Wheezy is almost stale anyway. | 01:05 |
| Unit193 | I mean stable3. | 01:05 |
| paultag | jrgifford: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ | 01:05 |
| paultag | Unit193: :) | 01:05 |
| jrgifford | ok, there we go | 01:05 |
| jrgifford | thanks! | 01:05 |
| paultag | sure dude | 01:07 |
| paultag | rock on witcha' bad self | 01:07 |
| paultag | jrgifford: be aware of non-free drivers, though | 01:07 |
| paultag | we're very strict about software freedoms | 01:07 |
| jrgifford | so, dd to usb stick, swap my hard drive, install, setup all my stuff, party. | 01:07 |
| paultag | do add non-free debs if you need them | 01:07 |
| jrgifford | it's a intel thinkpad, don't think there are any nonfree stuff | 01:08 |
| paultag | ok :) | 01:08 |
| jrgifford | i'll keep that in mind for if/when i switch the AMD machine from fedora. | 01:09 |
| jrgifford | side note: fedora is pretty nice, i'm missing a lot of my software, but it's still not bad. | 01:09 |
| paultag | jrgifford: I think you'll be suprised at how much you like Debian, once you understand it's changes from Ubuntu | 01:09 |
| paultag | or rather, when you understand the Ubuntu changes from Debian | 01:10 |
| jrgifford | ok | 01:11 |
| jrgifford | i'm working on converting the intern | 01:12 |
| jrgifford | ok, not the intern. he's really the junior member of the team. | 01:13 |
| jrgifford | started by installing chrunchbang on his workstation | 01:13 |
| jrgifford | now that he's got a laptop, we're going to teach him how to do complex VMs and stuff in windows, and then show him how easy it is to do on a linux distro | 01:13 |
| paultag | :) | 01:13 |
| jrgifford | he fights every step of the way, he likes his games. | 01:14 |
| jrgifford | so we're also ordering the t61 cd drive caddy, and another hard drive | 01:14 |
| jrgifford | so he can dual-boot without running out of space | 01:14 |
| jrgifford | ok, downloaded, dd'ed, shutting down to swap. cya on the other side. :D | 01:15 |
| jrgifford | ok, paultag - i am now at the "configure package manager" step, and the us and kernel.org mirrors don't support debian testing. | 01:47 |
| jrgifford | do i go ahead and continue without a network mirror? | 01:47 |
| paultag | erm | 01:47 |
| paultag | us does | 01:48 |
| jrgifford | the docs i'm reading say that's a bad idea. | 01:48 |
| paultag | and I think kernel.org does too | 01:48 |
| paultag | in fact, I'm almost sure of it | 01:48 |
| paultag | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/testing/ | 01:48 |
| paultag | yes | 01:48 |
| paultag | jrgifford: kernel.org does. I use MIT, myself. | 01:48 |
| jrgifford | interesting | 01:49 |
| jrgifford | let me see if i can ping out. | 01:49 |
| paultag | jrgifford: here are my mirrors - http://static.pault.ag/debian/mirrors.txt | 01:49 |
| paultag | (commented a few out) | 01:49 |
| jrgifford | ok | 01:49 |
| gilbert | paultag: wondeful blog post :) | 01:53 |
| paultag | gilbert: thanks :) | 01:53 |
| jrgifford | bad cable. | 01:59 |
| jrgifford | it was loose. | 01:59 |
| paultag | jrgifford: #fail :) | 02:00 |
| jrgifford | so now, while debian installs, i need to get my tire patched before i leave tomorrow. :P | 02:01 |
| jrgifford | that'll be fun. | 02:01 |
| paultag | :) | 02:01 |
| jrgifford | now, i will participate in debian's package popularity contest. | 02:02 |
| jrgifford | never did for ubuntu, at least, not knowingly. | 02:03 |
| paultag | :) | 02:03 |
| paultag | I think it was enabled by default? | 02:03 |
| jrgifford | i always disabled it | 02:03 |
| jrgifford | before i made use of my post install script | 02:03 |
| paultag | ah cool. | 02:04 |
| Unit193 | In Ubuntu it is disabled by default. | 02:29 |
| jrgifford | Well, I've never seen ram usage that low before. :-) | 03:10 |
| jrgifford | under 500MB, most of which is iceweasel. this is pretty snappy. | 03:15 |
| paultag | :) | 03:22 |
| thafreak | jrgifford: no I don't have a link, I have a recruiter's email address | 15:30 |
| thafreak | some recruiters won't even give out details for fear you might go around them | 15:30 |
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