wrst | Omnifrog: they want food just every so often don't they? :) | 02:43 |
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Omnifrog | I know but every day? | 02:44 |
Omnifrog | unreasonable | 02:44 |
wrst | yes and mutliple times during the day at that... all the nerve | 02:46 |
Omnifrog | who do they think they are? | 02:46 |
wrst | yeah they think you took them to raise or some crazy junk like that | 02:47 |
Omnifrog | I should start backups before I crash | 03:11 |
Omnifrog | that way i can mess with stuff tomorrow | 03:11 |
Omnifrog | it's such a mess | 03:28 |
Omnifrog | I'm actually having to diagram the drives out on paper in order to understand what I've done to make this mess | 03:36 |
Omnifrog | backups are going to take all night | 04:04 |
Omnifrog | goodnight geeks | 04:04 |
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bill_gill | good morning | 14:42 |
wrst | morning bill_gill how are things going? | 14:43 |
bill_gill | is anyone using skype with a bluetooth headset with success? | 14:43 |
bill_gill | i'm doing well wrst | 14:43 |
bill_gill | how about you? | 14:44 |
wrst | doing well | 14:44 |
wrst | skype, yes bluetooth headset now | 14:44 |
wrst | *no | 14:44 |
wrst | bill_gill: does the headset work with other things? | 14:44 |
bill_gill | it did once on another install | 14:44 |
wrst | if it does its probably as simple as going to the options in skype and selecting it as the default mic/speaker | 14:44 |
bill_gill | now it connects but i can't direct in or out to it. | 14:45 |
wrst | sorry I'm still old school, I use wires :) | 14:45 |
bill_gill | there are no devices listed in the 'sound' window | 14:45 |
wrst | bill_gill: sorry i'm not going to be much help there never used any bluetooth devices | 14:46 |
bill_gill | no problem, i think the bigger issue is that there are no devices listed | 14:47 |
wrst | but i'm sure someone will come through that has :) | 14:47 |
bill_gill | sound output from my sound device on the mb is working. i can hear music from rhythmbox | 14:48 |
wrst | if you have the headset active you should be able to hear music out your headset thought correct? | 14:51 |
wrst | *though | 14:53 |
* wrst needs bluetooth spell checker | 14:53 | |
bill_gill | i don't have a headset plugged in | 14:55 |
bill_gill | even if I did, there are no devices in the sound window... no way to change in or out | 14:57 |
bill_gill | that is the issue | 14:57 |
bill_gill | getting devices to show in the "Play sound through" box. | 14:57 |
bill_gill | it may be a permissions issue again | 14:58 |
wrst | nah don't think that would be permissions | 14:58 |
wrst | which ubuntu are you running again? 12.10? | 14:59 |
bill_gill | yes | 15:00 |
wrst | but your stock soundcard doesn't show up in the audio settings? | 15:02 |
bill_gill | right | 15:02 |
bill_gill | nothing is showing | 15:03 |
wrst | hmm | 15:05 |
bill_gill | sorry, chat closed | 15:07 |
bill_gill | what was you last wrst? | 15:07 |
wrst | bill_gill: so your sound settings even before bluetooth does not look like this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2959906/audio.png | 15:07 |
bill_gill | nope, blank | 15:07 |
wrst | but you have sound that works? | 15:08 |
bill_gill | yes | 15:08 |
wrst | sounds like a pulse audio problem probably there | 15:08 |
wrst | but I would imagine that needs to be fixed before you can expect to control your bluetooth device, but that's just an uneducated guess | 15:09 |
wrst | bill_gill: i know many people install pavucontrol when they have pulse issues might be worth installing and see if your hardware shows up with it | 15:10 |
bill_gill | i would agree. i think i caused the issue trying to get skype to use alsa instead of pulse | 15:11 |
bill_gill | i did, it doesn't | 15:11 |
wrst | ok so are you not using pulse? | 15:12 |
wrst | for audio in general | 15:12 |
bill_gill | well... | 15:16 |
bill_gill | it was a good idea at the time. i have read that it is not good to remove pulse | 15:16 |
bill_gill | i think i should get pulse up and running correctly again. | 15:17 |
bill_gill | any thoughts on best way to rebuild pulse? | 15:20 |
wrst | hmm let me check, and that's why that isn't showing up it requires pulse | 15:21 |
wrst | i would think a sudo apt-get install pulseaudio would be a good place to start | 15:21 |
bill_gill | i put autospawn=yes back in config file. now the sound window is looping | 15:23 |
bill_gill | tried the install... got this | 15:25 |
bill_gill | Reading package lists... Done | 15:25 |
bill_gill | Building dependency tree | 15:25 |
bill_gill | Reading state information... Done | 15:25 |
bill_gill | pulseaudio is already the newest version. | 15:25 |
bill_gill | pulseaudio set to manually installed. | 15:25 |
bill_gill | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded. | 15:25 |
bill_gill | why would it say 'set to manually installed'? | 15:25 |
bill_gill | fixed | 15:27 |
bill_gill | sound window is still looping.... establishing connection.... devices.... establishing connection.... devices.... ETC | 15:27 |
bill_gill | hmmm, no cards available for configuration | 15:28 |
bill_gill | going to restart... brb... thanks for your insight | 15:30 |
wrst | may not thank me for insight after his computer goes up in flames :) | 15:31 |
wrst | bill_gill: any luck? | 15:35 |
bill_gill | yep | 15:35 |
bill_gill | audio devices back | 15:35 |
bill_gill | now it's back to the skype issue | 15:35 |
bill_gill | bluetooth device not showing up in pulse... any thoughts? | 15:37 |
wrst | have you looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset | 15:38 |
wrst | From Ubuntu 10.10 on it should be very simple: | 15:39 |
wrst | Go to System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth and pair the Bluetooth device | 15:39 |
wrst | Go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and select the Bluetooth device as your output device. | 15:39 |
wrst | looks like that is the key ^^^ | 15:39 |
wrst | but last bluetooth i used was on a motorla razr phone many years ago :) | 15:40 |
bill_gill | where is System? | 15:42 |
bill_gill | system settings? | 15:42 |
wrst | yes or just type bluetooth in the dash | 15:43 |
wrst | or search or dash search or wahtever that searchy thing is called :) | 15:44 |
bill_gill | its on, connected | 15:44 |
bill_gill | Type=headset | 15:45 |
bill_gill | what ver ubuntu are you on? | 15:45 |
Omnifrog | morning folks | 15:45 |
bill_gill | gm omnifrog | 15:46 |
bill_gill | is anyone on ubuntu 12.10? | 15:46 |
Omnifrog | I forget what this is on | 15:47 |
wrst | i'm using 12.10 desktop, 12.10 server, debian server, arch desktop I have them all :) | 15:47 |
wrst | oh a debian desktop | 15:47 |
wrst | bill_gill: is it working? | 15:47 |
wrst | and morning Omnifrog | 15:47 |
bill_gill | no | 15:47 |
bill_gill | there seems to be two sound controls... pulseaudio and a default sound | 15:48 |
wrst | well you shouldn't need to mess with any of that i think you should be able to take care of it in teh skype options | 15:49 |
bill_gill | pulseaudiocontrol and sound (in system settings) | 15:49 |
wrst | *the | 15:49 |
wrst | you may not even need PAVcontrol thing now | 15:49 |
wrst | but I think since you are connected you should probably move to skye and set up your headset as the mic and speaker | 15:50 |
bill_gill | can you change your skype sound options from pulseaudio? | 15:50 |
wrst | I don't know but you need to change them in the app itself | 15:50 |
bill_gill | can't... that is the problem | 15:50 |
wrst | skype does not operate as most things | 15:50 |
wrst | what are your options in skype? | 15:51 |
bill_gill | that caused the pulse vs alsa problem | 15:51 |
bill_gill | pulseaudio in skyp... can't change it as long as pulse is running | 15:51 |
wrst | that shouldn't be a problem you should be able to select your headset I thought but if thats the case just change the default input/output to your headset | 15:52 |
wrst | you will probably need to uninstall the pavcontrol so you don't have two things competing for control of pulse | 15:52 |
wrst | and restart pulse or reboot | 15:52 |
wrst | then just leave skype using pulse, but I suspect there should be more options | 15:53 |
bill_gill | i suspect there should be also... there isn't on my setup... are you using skype? can you check yours? | 15:54 |
bill_gill | restarting... now skype is locked up... not allowing me to see the options | 15:55 |
wrst | just a sec having to remote in but there are different options and I use nothing but the laptops sound/mic | 15:55 |
wrst | ugh... this should not be this difficult | 15:55 |
bill_gill | ugh | 16:03 |
wrst | well bill_gill i have the same issue as you now :) | 16:04 |
wrst | evidently the update to skype broke something :) | 16:04 |
bill_gill | which issue... i have several now :( | 16:04 |
wrst | well can't select the input in skype looks like it is handing that off to pulse now | 16:05 |
bill_gill | pulseaudio seems to be looking correct however, the front sound ports are not showing and the 'test sound' doesn't make sound but rhythmbox does | 16:05 |
bill_gill | yes, that is the issue | 16:05 |
bill_gill | i was trying some workarounds published when i screwed the build | 16:06 |
bill_gill | one of the suggestions was to go back to ALSA... bad idea | 16:06 |
wrst | yes I don't think that is a good idea at all, pulse is pretty well here to stay | 16:06 |
bill_gill | darn, should have come to you first... :) | 16:07 |
bill_gill | put here i am... | 16:07 |
bill_gill | butt here i amm | 16:07 |
bill_gill | i think the problem is how pulse sees the soundcard and other sound devices | 16:12 |
bill_gill | start pulseaudio control and then do a test call. Skype shows up and you can change devices. | 16:13 |
bill_gill | give it a try... my install won't let me change the sound device | 16:13 |
wrst | will have to give taht a go when i get home actually | 16:14 |
wrst | but I would try to undo all the stuff you did with pulse if possible | 16:14 |
wrst | its actually a dependency now in gnome and I think kde so it really should work | 16:14 |
bill_gill | i believe i did | 16:14 |
wrst | not for sure if you are around tonight probably late as I have to paint when i get home I can try to help out, get my hands on my machine | 16:15 |
bill_gill | thats great... i will be here | 16:15 |
wrst | skype is just a general pain in the rear | 16:16 |
bill_gill | i think its a pulseaudio issue | 16:16 |
bill_gill | fix pulse and fix skype | 16:17 |
bill_gill | i think pulse needs multiple profiles ... mine is only showing 1 | 16:17 |
bill_gill | and my mike won't turn off. | 16:17 |
bill_gill | how is your audio.conf edit skills? | 16:30 |
wrst | never needed to even in arch | 16:32 |
bill_gill | how about the pulse conf? | 16:46 |
wrst | never had to mess with it either | 16:47 |
wrst | pretty much the desktop I would think should take care of everything unless you have a specific hardware case and you may | 16:47 |
wrst | hello chris4585 | 16:51 |
chris4585 | hi | 16:53 |
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