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wrstOmnifrog: they want food just every so often don't they? :)02:43
OmnifrogI know but every day?02:44
Omnifrogunreasonable02:44
wrstyes and mutliple times during the day at that... all the nerve02:46
Omnifrogwho do they think they are?02:46
wrstyeah they think you took them to raise or some crazy junk like that02:47
OmnifrogI should start backups before I crash03:11
Omnifrogthat way i can mess with stuff tomorrow03:11
Omnifrogit's such a mess03:28
OmnifrogI'm actually having to diagram the drives out on paper in order to understand what I've done to make this mess03:36
Omnifrogbackups are going to take all night04:04
Omnifroggoodnight geeks04:04
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bill_gillgood morning14:42
wrstmorning bill_gill how are things going?14:43
bill_gillis anyone using skype with a bluetooth headset with success?14:43
bill_gilli'm doing well wrst14:43
bill_gillhow about you?14:44
wrstdoing well14:44
wrstskype, yes bluetooth headset now14:44
wrst*no14:44
wrstbill_gill: does the headset work with other things?14:44
bill_gillit did once on another install14:44
wrstif it does its probably as simple as going to the options in skype and selecting it as the default mic/speaker14:44
bill_gillnow it connects but i can't direct in or out to it.14:45
wrstsorry I'm still old school, I use wires :)14:45
bill_gillthere are no devices listed in the 'sound' window14:45
wrstbill_gill: sorry i'm not going to be much help there never used any bluetooth devices14:46
bill_gillno problem, i think the bigger issue is that there are no devices listed14:47
wrstbut i'm sure someone will come through that has :)14:47
bill_gillsound output from my sound device on the mb is working. i can hear music from rhythmbox14:48
wrstif you have the headset active you should be able to hear music out your headset thought correct?14:51
wrst*though14:53
* wrst needs bluetooth spell checker14:53
bill_gilli don't have a headset plugged in14:55
bill_gilleven if I did, there are no devices in the sound window... no way to change in or out14:57
bill_gillthat is the issue14:57
bill_gillgetting devices to show in the "Play sound through" box.14:57
bill_gillit may be a permissions issue again14:58
wrstnah don't think that would be permissions14:58
wrstwhich ubuntu are you running again? 12.10?14:59
bill_gillyes15:00
wrstbut your stock soundcard doesn't show up in the audio settings?15:02
bill_gillright15:02
bill_gillnothing is showing15:03
wrsthmm15:05
bill_gillsorry, chat closed15:07
bill_gillwhat was you last wrst?15:07
wrstbill_gill: so your sound settings even before bluetooth does not look like this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2959906/audio.png15:07
bill_gillnope, blank15:07
wrstbut you have sound that works?15:08
bill_gillyes15:08
wrstsounds like a pulse audio problem probably there15:08
wrstbut I would imagine that needs to be fixed before you can expect to control your bluetooth device, but that's just an uneducated guess15:09
wrstbill_gill: i know many people install pavucontrol when they have pulse issues might be worth installing and see if your hardware shows up with it15:10
bill_gilli would agree. i think i caused the issue trying to get skype to use alsa instead of pulse15:11
bill_gilli did, it doesn't15:11
wrstok so are you not using pulse?15:12
wrstfor audio in general15:12
bill_gillwell...15:16
bill_gillit was a good idea at the time. i have read that it is not good to remove pulse15:16
bill_gilli think i should get pulse up and running correctly again.15:17
bill_gillany thoughts on best way to rebuild pulse?15:20
wrsthmm let me check, and that's why that isn't showing up it requires pulse15:21
wrsti would think a sudo apt-get install pulseaudio would be a good place to start15:21
bill_gilli put autospawn=yes back in config file. now the sound window is looping15:23
bill_gilltried the install... got this15:25
bill_gillReading package lists... Done15:25
bill_gillBuilding dependency tree15:25
bill_gillReading state information... Done15:25
bill_gillpulseaudio is already the newest version.15:25
bill_gillpulseaudio set to manually installed.15:25
bill_gill0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded.15:25
bill_gillwhy would it say 'set to manually installed'?15:25
bill_gillfixed15:27
bill_gillsound window is still looping.... establishing connection.... devices.... establishing connection.... devices....   ETC15:27
bill_gillhmmm, no cards available for configuration15:28
bill_gillgoing to restart... brb... thanks for your insight15:30
wrstmay not thank me for insight after his computer goes up in flames :)15:31
wrstbill_gill: any luck?15:35
bill_gillyep15:35
bill_gillaudio devices back15:35
bill_gillnow it's back to the skype issue15:35
bill_gillbluetooth device not showing up in pulse... any thoughts?15:37
wrsthave you looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset15:38
wrstFrom Ubuntu 10.10 on it should be very simple:15:39
wrst    Go to System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth and pair the Bluetooth device15:39
wrst    Go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and select the Bluetooth device as your output device.15:39
wrstlooks like that is the key ^^^15:39
wrstbut last bluetooth i used was on a motorla razr phone many years ago :)15:40
bill_gillwhere is System?15:42
bill_gillsystem settings?15:42
wrstyes or just type bluetooth in the dash15:43
wrstor search or dash search or wahtever that searchy thing is called :)15:44
bill_gillits on, connected15:44
bill_gillType=headset15:45
bill_gillwhat ver ubuntu are you on?15:45
Omnifrogmorning folks15:45
bill_gillgm omnifrog15:46
bill_gillis anyone on ubuntu 12.10?15:46
OmnifrogI forget what this is on15:47
wrsti'm using 12.10 desktop, 12.10 server, debian server, arch desktop I have them all :)15:47
wrstoh a debian desktop15:47
wrstbill_gill: is it working?15:47
wrstand morning Omnifrog15:47
bill_gillno15:47
bill_gillthere seems to be two sound controls... pulseaudio and a default sound15:48
wrstwell you shouldn't need to mess with any of that i think you should be able to take care of it in teh skype options15:49
bill_gillpulseaudiocontrol and sound (in system settings)15:49
wrst*the15:49
wrstyou may not even need PAVcontrol thing now15:49
wrstbut I think since you are connected you should probably move to skye and set up your headset as the mic and speaker15:50
bill_gillcan you change your skype sound options from pulseaudio?15:50
wrstI don't know but you need to change them in the app itself15:50
bill_gillcan't... that is the problem15:50
wrstskype does not operate as most things15:50
wrstwhat are your options in skype?15:51
bill_gillthat caused the pulse vs alsa problem15:51
bill_gillpulseaudio in skyp... can't change it as long as pulse is running15:51
wrstthat shouldn't be a problem you should be able to select your headset I thought but if thats the case just change the default input/output to your headset15:52
wrstyou will probably need to uninstall the pavcontrol so you don't have two things competing for control of pulse15:52
wrstand restart pulse or reboot15:52
wrstthen just leave skype using pulse, but I suspect there should be more options15:53
bill_gilli suspect there should be also... there isn't on my setup... are you using skype? can you check yours?15:54
bill_gillrestarting... now skype is locked up... not allowing me to see the options15:55
wrstjust a sec having to remote in but there are different options and I use nothing but the laptops sound/mic15:55
wrstugh... this should not be this difficult15:55
bill_gillugh16:03
wrstwell bill_gill i have the same issue as you now :)16:04
wrstevidently the update to skype broke something :)16:04
bill_gillwhich issue... i have several now :(16:04
wrstwell can't select the input in skype looks like it is handing that off to pulse now16:05
bill_gillpulseaudio seems to be looking correct however, the front sound ports are not showing and the 'test sound' doesn't make sound but rhythmbox does16:05
bill_gillyes, that is the issue16:05
bill_gilli was trying some workarounds published when i screwed the build16:06
bill_gillone of the suggestions was to go back to ALSA... bad idea16:06
wrstyes I don't think that is a good idea at all, pulse is pretty well here to stay16:06
bill_gilldarn, should have come to you first... :)16:07
bill_gillput here i am...16:07
bill_gillbutt here i amm16:07
bill_gilli think the problem is how pulse sees the soundcard and other sound devices16:12
bill_gillstart pulseaudio control and then do a test call. Skype shows up and you can change devices.16:13
bill_gillgive it a try... my install won't let me change the sound device16:13
wrstwill have to give taht a go when i get home actually16:14
wrstbut I would try to undo all the stuff you did with pulse if possible16:14
wrstits actually a dependency now in gnome and I think kde so it really should work16:14
bill_gilli believe i did16:14
wrstnot for sure if you are around tonight probably late as I have to paint when i get home I can try to help out, get my hands on my machine16:15
bill_gillthats great... i will be here16:15
wrstskype is just a general pain in the rear16:16
bill_gilli think its a pulseaudio issue16:16
bill_gillfix pulse and fix skype16:17
bill_gilli think pulse needs multiple profiles ... mine is only showing 116:17
bill_gilland my mike won't turn off.16:17
bill_gillhow is your audio.conf edit skills?16:30
wrstnever needed to even in arch16:32
bill_gillhow about the pulse conf?16:46
wrstnever had to mess with it either16:47
wrstpretty much the desktop I would think should take care of everything unless you have a specific hardware case and you may16:47
wrsthello chris458516:51
chris4585hi16:53

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