[02:43] Omnifrog: they want food just every so often don't they? :) [02:44] I know but every day? [02:44] unreasonable [02:46] yes and mutliple times during the day at that... all the nerve [02:46] who do they think they are? [02:47] yeah they think you took them to raise or some crazy junk like that [03:11] I should start backups before I crash [03:11] that way i can mess with stuff tomorrow [03:28] it's such a mess [03:36] I'm actually having to diagram the drives out on paper in order to understand what I've done to make this mess [04:04] backups are going to take all night [04:04] goodnight geeks === Omnifrog is now known as Omnifrog|pond === Omnifrog|pond is now known as Omnifrog [14:42] good morning [14:43] morning bill_gill how are things going? [14:43] is anyone using skype with a bluetooth headset with success? [14:43] i'm doing well wrst [14:44] how about you? [14:44] doing well [14:44] skype, yes bluetooth headset now [14:44] *no [14:44] bill_gill: does the headset work with other things? [14:44] it did once on another install [14:44] if it does its probably as simple as going to the options in skype and selecting it as the default mic/speaker [14:45] now it connects but i can't direct in or out to it. [14:45] sorry I'm still old school, I use wires :) [14:45] there are no devices listed in the 'sound' window [14:46] bill_gill: sorry i'm not going to be much help there never used any bluetooth devices [14:47] no problem, i think the bigger issue is that there are no devices listed [14:47] but i'm sure someone will come through that has :) [14:48] sound output from my sound device on the mb is working. i can hear music from rhythmbox [14:51] if you have the headset active you should be able to hear music out your headset thought correct? [14:53] *though [14:53] * wrst needs bluetooth spell checker [14:55] i don't have a headset plugged in [14:57] even if I did, there are no devices in the sound window... no way to change in or out [14:57] that is the issue [14:57] getting devices to show in the "Play sound through" box. [14:58] it may be a permissions issue again [14:58] nah don't think that would be permissions [14:59] which ubuntu are you running again? 12.10? [15:00] yes [15:02] but your stock soundcard doesn't show up in the audio settings? [15:02] right [15:03] nothing is showing [15:05] hmm [15:07] sorry, chat closed [15:07] what was you last wrst? [15:07] bill_gill: so your sound settings even before bluetooth does not look like this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2959906/audio.png [15:07] nope, blank [15:08] but you have sound that works? [15:08] yes [15:08] sounds like a pulse audio problem probably there [15:09] but I would imagine that needs to be fixed before you can expect to control your bluetooth device, but that's just an uneducated guess [15:10] bill_gill: i know many people install pavucontrol when they have pulse issues might be worth installing and see if your hardware shows up with it [15:11] i would agree. i think i caused the issue trying to get skype to use alsa instead of pulse [15:11] i did, it doesn't [15:12] ok so are you not using pulse? [15:12] for audio in general [15:16] well... [15:16] it was a good idea at the time. i have read that it is not good to remove pulse [15:17] i think i should get pulse up and running correctly again. [15:20] any thoughts on best way to rebuild pulse? [15:21] hmm let me check, and that's why that isn't showing up it requires pulse [15:21] i would think a sudo apt-get install pulseaudio would be a good place to start [15:23] i put autospawn=yes back in config file. now the sound window is looping [15:25] tried the install... got this [15:25] Reading package lists... Done [15:25] Building dependency tree [15:25] Reading state information... Done [15:25] pulseaudio is already the newest version. [15:25] pulseaudio set to manually installed. [15:25] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded. [15:25] why would it say 'set to manually installed'? [15:27] fixed [15:27] sound window is still looping.... establishing connection.... devices.... establishing connection.... devices.... ETC [15:28] hmmm, no cards available for configuration [15:30] going to restart... brb... thanks for your insight [15:31] may not thank me for insight after his computer goes up in flames :) [15:35] bill_gill: any luck? [15:35] yep [15:35] audio devices back [15:35] now it's back to the skype issue [15:37] bluetooth device not showing up in pulse... any thoughts? [15:38] have you looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset [15:39] From Ubuntu 10.10 on it should be very simple: [15:39] Go to System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth and pair the Bluetooth device [15:39] Go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and select the Bluetooth device as your output device. [15:39] looks like that is the key ^^^ [15:40] but last bluetooth i used was on a motorla razr phone many years ago :) [15:42] where is System? [15:42] system settings? [15:43] yes or just type bluetooth in the dash [15:44] or search or dash search or wahtever that searchy thing is called :) [15:44] its on, connected [15:45] Type=headset [15:45] what ver ubuntu are you on? [15:45] morning folks [15:46] gm omnifrog [15:46] is anyone on ubuntu 12.10? [15:47] I forget what this is on [15:47] i'm using 12.10 desktop, 12.10 server, debian server, arch desktop I have them all :) [15:47] oh a debian desktop [15:47] bill_gill: is it working? [15:47] and morning Omnifrog [15:47] no [15:48] there seems to be two sound controls... pulseaudio and a default sound [15:49] well you shouldn't need to mess with any of that i think you should be able to take care of it in teh skype options [15:49] pulseaudiocontrol and sound (in system settings) [15:49] *the [15:49] you may not even need PAVcontrol thing now [15:50] but I think since you are connected you should probably move to skye and set up your headset as the mic and speaker [15:50] can you change your skype sound options from pulseaudio? [15:50] I don't know but you need to change them in the app itself [15:50] can't... that is the problem [15:50] skype does not operate as most things [15:51] what are your options in skype? [15:51] that caused the pulse vs alsa problem [15:51] pulseaudio in skyp... can't change it as long as pulse is running [15:52] that shouldn't be a problem you should be able to select your headset I thought but if thats the case just change the default input/output to your headset [15:52] you will probably need to uninstall the pavcontrol so you don't have two things competing for control of pulse [15:52] and restart pulse or reboot [15:53] then just leave skype using pulse, but I suspect there should be more options [15:54] i suspect there should be also... there isn't on my setup... are you using skype? can you check yours? [15:55] restarting... now skype is locked up... not allowing me to see the options [15:55] just a sec having to remote in but there are different options and I use nothing but the laptops sound/mic [15:55] ugh... this should not be this difficult [16:03] ugh [16:04] well bill_gill i have the same issue as you now :) [16:04] evidently the update to skype broke something :) [16:04] which issue... i have several now :( [16:05] well can't select the input in skype looks like it is handing that off to pulse now [16:05] pulseaudio seems to be looking correct however, the front sound ports are not showing and the 'test sound' doesn't make sound but rhythmbox does [16:05] yes, that is the issue [16:06] i was trying some workarounds published when i screwed the build [16:06] one of the suggestions was to go back to ALSA... bad idea [16:06] yes I don't think that is a good idea at all, pulse is pretty well here to stay [16:07] darn, should have come to you first... :) [16:07] put here i am... [16:07] butt here i amm [16:12] i think the problem is how pulse sees the soundcard and other sound devices [16:13] start pulseaudio control and then do a test call. Skype shows up and you can change devices. [16:13] give it a try... my install won't let me change the sound device [16:14] will have to give taht a go when i get home actually [16:14] but I would try to undo all the stuff you did with pulse if possible [16:14] its actually a dependency now in gnome and I think kde so it really should work [16:14] i believe i did [16:15] not for sure if you are around tonight probably late as I have to paint when i get home I can try to help out, get my hands on my machine [16:15] thats great... i will be here [16:16] skype is just a general pain in the rear [16:16] i think its a pulseaudio issue [16:17] fix pulse and fix skype [16:17] i think pulse needs multiple profiles ... mine is only showing 1 [16:17] and my mike won't turn off. [16:30] how is your audio.conf edit skills? [16:32] never needed to even in arch [16:46] how about the pulse conf? [16:47] never had to mess with it either [16:47] pretty much the desktop I would think should take care of everything unless you have a specific hardware case and you may [16:51] hello chris4585 [16:53] hi