[00:06] <elisa87> How should I downgrade from gcc 4.6 to gcc4.3?
[00:06] <GH0> somsip, in order as they appear in the text: deluge command line issues: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594671/ - If I try to purge the python resources http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594672/ - Opening up a python console and then trying to run import encodings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594673/
[00:07] <GH0> (honestly I don't see the whole point in using paste.ubuntu.com over pastebin.com, but alright)
[00:08] <somsip> GH0: the pastebin reminder wasn't aimed at you
[00:08] <GH0> Oh
[00:13] <Nanaharu> Okay so I installed ubuntu to my hardrive from a different computer and now I can get the proper screen in order to get into the grub... I tried just running it on my computer but it went only to the purple screen than stopped... Any help?
[00:18] <gnuskool> empty room?
[00:20] <compdoc> yup
[00:20] <compdoc> just me and you
[00:20] <Gaunt2005> and me
[00:21] <compdoc> oh, 3 ppl then
[00:21] <dr_willis> moo?
[00:22] <compdoc> 3 ppl, one cow
[00:22] <julian-delphiki> Nanaharu: I don;t recommend trying that
[00:22] <nevada-smith> sqwak
[00:22] <dr_willis> Please state your question in the form of a Haiku...
[00:23] <Nanaharu> julian-delphiki : why not?
[00:24] <julian-delphiki> Nanaharu: you should install it on the drive in the computer you want to use it on.
[00:24] <jbollden> Hi, if I don't have any Xorg.conf, how do I diable modules that fails according to the log-file?
[00:25] <mikef> how do packages for ubuntu get created?  i tried my hand at compiling a library (ocsync) but on copying it to a similar ubuntu system (same release) it does not work as expected, though tomy knowledge all the other stuff is the same.
[00:25] <Nanaharu> But I can't get it to install. And no one seems to be able to fix my problem...
[00:25] <dr_willis> !blacklist | jbollden
[00:25] <Nanaharu> julian-delphiki : But I can't get it to install. And no one seems to be able to fix my problem...
[00:26] <jbollden> dr_willis: even for xorg modules? o_O
[00:26] <julian-delphiki> What is the problem, Nanaharu
[00:26] <dr_willis> jbollden: ive seen people blacklist the nvidia and noveau drivers.. so aparently yes
[00:27] <Nanaharu> julian-delphiki : I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a bare drive/ brand new operating system. It doesn't have any operating system. All my parts should be compatible.
[00:27] <Nanaharu> julian-delphiki : these are my specs: Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 Processor: Intel i7 Ivy Brige Graphics Card: NVIDIA EVGA GTX 680 FTW RAM: Vengeance 8Gb HDD: Seagate 1Tb
[00:28] <Nanaharu> julian-delphiki : My motherboard is UEFI
[00:29] <Gyhy> Hi
[00:29] <compdoc> Nanaharu, try 12.04
[00:30] <dr_willis> try 13.04  - if it fails file a bug report.
[00:30] <Gyhy> Is it legal to include Java Runtime Environment in my custom Distro?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Gyhy:  the Icedtea java - would be legal.
[00:30] <litropy> BEst Bitcoin mining software?
[00:31] <Nanaharu> compdoc : I've tried 12.10 64 bit and 32bit as well as 12.04 64bit and 32bit and also a secure_linux_built
[00:31] <Gyhy> What is Icedtea Java??
[00:31] <dr_willis> Gyhy:  the opensourced java thats in the normal ubuntu repos
[00:31] <Gyhy> Is it compatible with all java applications?
[00:31] <remaster_> hello i have a samsumg galaxy tab 10'1 and i want to use allshare in ubuntu
[00:31] <k1l_> Gyhy: no
[00:32] <dr_willis> there is no java that is compatible with ALL java apps..
[00:32] <Nanaharu> compdoc : I've tried 12.10 64 bit and 32bit as well as 12.04 64bit and 32bit and also a secure_linux_build
[00:32] <Gyhy> I mean all Java apps meant to work on Linux
[00:32] <Gyhy> Desktop Linux
[00:32] <dr_willis> remaster_:  as far as i know allshare  - is just another dlna server/client stuff.
[00:32] <compdoc> Nanaharu, it sees the hdd and begins the install?
[00:32] <compdoc> it formats, etc?
[00:33] <remaster_> yes but i try some media servers like minidlna and reygel and nothing worked :s
[00:33] <compdoc> Nanaharu, let me see if I can d/l the manual
[00:33] <dr_willis> remaster_:  ive had my tv and tablets with allshare work with minidlna and ushare
[00:33] <Nanaharu> compdoc : I can just get to the purple screen with the f1-f6 buttons and the "try ubuntu without installing" page. After I try to install or tryi without install, I only get a black screen with white text
[00:34] <dr_willis> remaster_:  biggest issue i find is the tablet players often cant handle the differnt file formats
[00:34] <remaster_> but in my allshare my pc doean't appear
[00:34] <compdoc> Nanaharu, hmm, do you have gparted?
[00:34] <remaster_> only appear my brothers windows laptop
[00:34] <Nanaharu> compdoc : what's gparted?
[00:35] <dr_willis> remaster_:  check out 'djmount' in the repos.. it can dynamiacly show all found dlna servers on the network
[00:35] <dr_willis> !info djmount
[00:35] <compdoc> Nanaharu, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[00:35] <dr_willis> Hmm bot is sleeping.
[00:35] <Nanaharu> compdoc : and if I have/get this gparted what would I do with it?
[00:36] <remaster_> thanks i will try
[00:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[00:36] <compdoc> Nanaharu, examine the hdd partition table
[00:37] <Nanaharu> compdoc : sorry if it's a noob question, but why would that be helpful? what am I looking for?
[00:37] <compdoc> is it a brand new hdd?
[00:38] <Nanaharu> compdoc : yes it's brand new~
[00:38] <Chickadee> Hello, can anyone help me?
[00:38] <compdoc> then it likely has no partition table
[00:38] <compdoc> that can screw thigns up
[00:38] <Chickadee> Hello?
[00:38] <compdoc> things, too
[00:38] <MestreLeo> I need help: im trying to install 12.04 in a friends (very old) laptop, using usb.Xubuntu live works, but Ubuntu halts when entering graphical mode.any directions?
[00:39] <k1l_> !ask | Chickadee
[00:39] <Nanaharu> OKay~ and so once I use the partition manager, what do I want to do? or do I just want to see the table?
[00:39] <anew> hey guys, if i have a webserver on my site, and people can post their profiles with their emails on there... what do i use in ubuntu to manage the sending of those emails by other users ?
[00:39] <compdoc> Nanaharu, you run gparted, and use it to view/create the table
[00:40] <anew> so like i click on a profile, click 'contact'
[00:40] <compdoc> Nanaharu, actually yo boot gparted
[00:40] <compdoc> you
[00:40] <anew> they fill out a form and click send
[00:40] <anew> and it gets sent to that persons email address
[00:40] <MestreLeo> I need help: im trying to install 12.04 in a friends (very old) laptop, using usb.Xubuntu live works, but Ubuntu halts when entering graphical mode.any directions?
[00:40] <Nanaharu> compdoc : Oh okay. And that should help with the install or will that itself install the OS?
[00:41] <MestreLeo> or, in other words: is there any "pre-live-sesion" where I can configure live mode not to halt?
[00:43] <MestreLeo> Xubuntu enters live session just fine, so I guess thisis not kernel-related. is there a way to force 12.04 to boot in safe mode VGA?
[00:43] <anew> anyone ?
[00:44] <compdoc> Nanaharu, it will fix a problem and let you install Ubuntu, if it is the problem
[00:44] <elisa87>  sudo apt-get install gcc-4.3
[00:44] <elisa87> Reading package lists... Done
[00:44] <elisa87> Building dependency tree
[00:44] <elisa87> Reading state information... Done
[00:44] <elisa87> Package gcc-4.3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:44] <orudie> can someone recommend socks server software that is easy to configure ?
[00:44] <elisa87> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:44] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <elisa87> is only available from another source
[00:47] <elisa87> any idea on this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5594754/  E: Package 'gcc-4.3' has no installation candidate
[00:48] <Nanaharu> compdoc : thank you very much~! I really hope this works ^.^
[00:49] <compdoc> elisa87, my 12.04 has gcc-4.6 installed. what version of ubuntu do you have?
[00:49] <compdoc> Nanaharu, let me know when you have gparted booted
[00:49] <elisa87> compdoc I have gcc4.6 I need to downgrade to 4.3 because I need to isntall CUDA 3.2
[00:51] <orudie> Can someone please recommend a proxy socks server software for ubuntu?
[00:52] <dr_willis> !info squid
[00:52] <dr_willis> !info squid3
[00:52] <orudie> squid doesn't work with irc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2123051
[00:53] <orudie> i installed it, it works fine for web browser, but doesn't work for irc
[00:54] <LovCAPONE> Just installed Linux Ubuntu as my main OS today... It ROCKS! (sorry had to share) ;-)
[00:54] <dr_willis> apt-cache search socks     perhaps... i use znc for my irc   needs
[00:57] <compdoc> elisa87, you can d/l any version from the mirrors of www.gnu.org. Some forums seem to suggest you can have both installed at the same time.
[00:58] <elisa87> the problem is that I don't know how to download it using wget from the site..can you help me? compdoc
[00:58] <yourimym1> !swap
[00:59] <compdoc> elisa87, I use the current version to compile one program. I dont know much about it
[00:59] <elisa87> compdoc: I need to download from this link but I don't see download link http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.3/
[01:00] <compdoc> elisa87, what country are you in?
[01:00] <elisa87> USA compdoc
[01:00] <elisa87> I need the version 4.3
[01:00] <gynna> http://www.reddit.com/r/AdultDating18/comments/19u89j/italian_amateurs/
[01:00] <compdoc> http://gcc.petsads.us/releases/
[01:00] <compdoc> elisa87
[01:01] <al_la> Running 12.10, after a normal restart, my screen no longer locks on power save->inactive.  Tried unsetting, restarting, re-setting options but still won't lock.  Thoughts?
[01:01] <yourimym1> hey there , is there any possoble way to make swap without live cd ?
[01:02] <elisa87> compdoc I got it wget ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.3.4/gcc-core-4.3.4.tar.gz
[01:02] <compdoc> good luck with that
[01:02] <dr_willis> boot your os and make a swap partition or file.... ;-)
[01:03] <tatertots> Anyone else have the issue of booting Ubuntu on a new factory Windoes 8 desktop computer?
[01:03] <yourimym1> choose advanced option while booting ?
[01:04] <jtal604622> what kind of issues?
[01:04] <vemax> hi
[01:05] <yourimym1> dr_willis: hoose advanced option while booting ? or start ubuntu normally ?
[01:05] <tatertots> i installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and when i go to reboot the computer ( dual booting with windows 87) windows 8 boot manager will not let me boot Ubuntu
[01:06] <redrocket> anybody know how to fix permissions on a usb drive. tried gksudo nautilus but changes just revert root ownership, tried sudo chown, chmod, etc...
[01:06] <dr_willis> yourimym1: huh? you can use gparted from a live desktop to make swap partitions.
[01:06] <dr_willis> redrocket: what fs is on the usn
[01:07] <dr_willis> usb?
[01:07] <yourimym1> dr_willis: is there other way to do it without live-cd or usb ?
[01:07] <redrocket> ntfs. is that what you mean?
[01:07] <dr_willis> you do NOT chown/chmod ntfs/vfat :-P
[01:07] <redrocket> :0
[01:07] <redrocket> well now I know!
[01:08] <dr_willis> yourimym1: boot your actual os and do it there
[01:08] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:08] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[01:08] <redrocket> i had it mounting like that in fstab but it recently quit working. and couldn't mount
[01:09] <yourimym1> dr_willis: choose advanced option for ubuntu or start it normally ?
[01:09] <tatertots> i used the windows insaller and have ubuntu installed but windos 8 boot manager wont let it boot,  anyone know how to get around this issue ?
[01:09] <dr_willis> if the fs is marked as needing checked. it may revert to read only. or not mount at all redrocket
[01:10] <yourimym1> tatertots: boot-up manager may help
[01:10] <dr_willis> yourimym1: a normal live desktop.....  ive never noticed an advanced option....
[01:11] <yna1111> Hello, I hope everybody is alright. Wanted to ask if the installation of an Ubuntu cloud server on my own server only can be done by an Ubuntu engineer (http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/solutions/jumpstart) or if there is some sort of how to on how to do it on my own.
[01:11] <tatertots> yourimym1 -- do you have a windows 8 DL link  you could point me to ?
[01:11] <yourimym1> dr_willis: i think i don't have this option while booting !
[01:12] <dr_willis> yourimym1: the normal desktop cd does it just fine.....
[01:12] <yourimym1> tatertots: let me check for u
[01:12] <yourimym1> dr_willis: i dont have a working cd rom right now  neither usb stick
[01:13] <dr_willis> yourimym1: i have no idea what options you mean then
[01:13] <tatertots> last i checked the boot manager was the problem , maybe its UEFI ?  any experience with getting around UEFI?
[01:14] <OerHeks> yna1111, you can deploy your own server & cloud > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[01:14] <elisa87> I have both gcc 4.4 and gcc 4.6 installed but I want my default gcc to be gcc4.4. What should I do?
[01:15]  * sj123 hi
[01:16] <yna1111> OerHeks, many many thanks!
[01:17] <elisa87> v
[01:17] <elisa87> I have both gcc 4.4 and gcc 4.6 installed but I want my default gcc to be gcc4.4. What should I do?
[01:18] <escott> elisa87, check /etc/alternatives
[01:18] <dr_willis> therse some system varables you set or try the alternatives system
[01:18] <escott> elisa87, and "update-alternatives"
[01:24] <Trinsta> hey guys, so i'm about to DBAN my alienware windows XP 2gb ram 3.2 ghz cpu and install ubuntu instead
[01:24]  * sj123 hi
[01:24] <Trinsta> never using linux before, any good tips on getting started?
[01:24] <Trinsta> also should I use 12.10 or 12.04 LTS?
[01:24] <dr_willis> !manual | Trinsta
[01:25] <Trinsta> ahh thank you
[01:25] <dr_willis> Trinsta:  whiich one to use. can depend on how new your  hardware is also
[01:25] <OerHeks> try it in live mode first
[01:25] <Trinsta> could i upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 without losing data in the future?
[01:26] <dr_willis> you can always upgrade
[01:26] <Tex_Nick> Trinsta:  something to consider ... you can dual boot win xp & ubuntu ... didn't know if tou were aware ot that ;-)
[01:26] <dr_willis> best to make a seperate /home/ partition in case you  want to make your life easier
[01:27] <dr_willis> you can test/play/toy with ubuntu and the installer in a virtualbox session all you  want. ;) to learn the basics
[01:27] <dr_willis> but i tend to use Lubuntu in vbox since lubuntu is lighter on system resources
[01:27] <Trinsta> tex_nick: aware, i dont use that desktop anymore and iw as looking more to figuring out how to work with linux
[01:28] <Trinsta> so in the future I would have more experience on my linux run servers instead of asking other people for help :)
[01:28] <wissam> Hi , what is the best resolution for an image to be a grub splash scree?
[01:28] <Trinsta> so my plan is to go from ubuntu > debian > and hopefully CentOS
[01:28] <Tex_Nick> Trinsta:  ok, hey cool man ... trash windoze & live happily thereafter ;-)
[01:29] <dr_willis> i really dont see the point in having a plan to move from one disrto to another. ;)
[01:29] <litropy> Anyone know the chan for bitcoind or botcoin-qt?
[01:29] <dr_willis> they all can do about the same tasks..
[01:29] <dr_willis> !alis > litropy
[01:30] <Trinsta> litropy: be careful of scammers
[01:30] <yourimym1> !VirtualBox
[01:31] <litropy> Trinsta, you mean bitcoin scammers? Yep.
[01:31] <inflex> hiya folks, last night my father did the usual software updates  (about 84MB downloaded) and this morning he woke up to all his home directory missing O_o  Any ideas?
[01:31] <dr_willis> inflex:  use a live cd and look for it,. the fs may  need chedcked also.. the package manager normally dosent touch stuff in the users home
[01:32] <dr_willis> !fsck
[01:32] <inflex> dr_willis: that was my thought as well.  Told him to shut it down and not touch it until I can examine it.
[01:32] <mailson> to install apache+php+mysql in 12.10 i just need to type sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ right?
[01:32] <kalenjohnson> mailson, that should work
[01:32] <dr_willis> !lamp
[01:32] <mailson> kalenjohnson: it says it couldn't find the package lamp-server
[01:32] <inflex> dr_willis: 17 years of linux and I've never had that happen... and yet my father can manage to break anything - oh the fun.
[01:33] <mailson> kalenjohnson: this is a new install, to you think an update of the repository is needed?
[01:33] <dr_willis> inflex:  if he lost power.. or just powered down.. a fsck may be needed
[01:33] <Onixs> live usb cant mount another usb stick ?
[01:33] <stupidBYdefault> JU
[01:33] <Onixs> live usb stick*
[01:33] <kalenjohnson> mailson, oh, maybe that's for servers
[01:33] <dr_willis> Onixs:  i mount them just fine from live-usbs
[01:34] <stupidBYdefault> hello need some answers on what is x11
[01:34] <Onixs> dr_willis : automatically or manually ?
[01:34] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  the wiki pedia pages may be usefull.. its the  foundation layer/software of the whole Desktop interface
[01:34] <kalenjohnson> mailson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP try sudo apt-get install tasksel then sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[01:34] <dr_willis> Onixs:  yes to both..  never  had any issues.
[01:34] <yourimym1> is there a virtual machine to run android apps under ubuntu 12.10
[01:35] <mailson> kalenjohnson: it's weird because i've tried this a couple of days ago on a friends pc and it worked
[01:35] <mailson> kalenjohnson: thanks! i'll try that
[01:35] <Onixs> dr_willis : ok. il try again … Thanks!
[01:36] <Quen> So, I'm running Kubuntu, but since that channel has just been /so/ helpful over the past couple days, I'm asking here instead. I can't get CD's to mount properly when I put them in the drive, which makes ripping the music off them pretty much impossible to do properly; I don't think it's the CD itself, because it works just fine in my stereo. How can I figure out what's wrong here?
[01:36] <dr_willis> Quen:  you dont mount music cds
[01:37] <Quen> It can't read them to transfer the files off.
[01:37] <mailson> kalenjohnson: i'm. I got the same error with tasksel, so I guess I have another problem here :(
[01:37] <dr_willis> it could be the /deb/cdrom  is an invalid link to the wrong /dev/sr0 device
[01:37] <stupidBYdefault> hy all
[01:37] <stupidBYdefault> wha t is x11?
[01:37] <dr_willis>  /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd are links to the actual sr# device.
[01:37] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  the wiki pedia pages may be usefull.. its the  foundation layer/software of the whole Desktop interface
[01:38] <Quen> stupidBYdefault; DE framework, it's what makes Ubuntu so pretty.
[01:38] <Quen> dr_willis; I checked those, they look fine.
[01:38] <Tex_Nick> Quen : are those the original music CD's or copies ?
[01:38] <dr_willis> Quen:  try some alternative ripper apps. run them from terminal. look for error messages
[01:38] <stupidBYdefault> is this like another desktop? like.. theme?
[01:39] <Quen> Original disks.
[01:39] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  its the  'foundation' of the ALL the desktops.
[01:39] <mailson> kalenjohnson: a apt-get update solved the problem. thanks!
[01:39] <Quen> I've tried ripping by manual copy, still won't work.
[01:39] <stupidBYdefault> u, nice, tnx.. how to install?
[01:39] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  its installed by default.. since its what all the desktops are using.
[01:40] <dr_willis> unless you did a server install..
[01:40] <stupidBYdefault> am.. no.. i get this linux 12.04 lts on usb
[01:41] <stupidBYdefault> so, how to use it?
[01:41] <X-warrior> This is my smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/1Es1ADDn tested by testparm... inside the log I see:   smb_panic(): calling panic action [/usr/share/samba/panic-action 1928] a lot... ideas?
[01:41] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  be a bit mroe detailed in what you mean.. you burn the iso to usb or disk.. boot it up.. it goes to the unity desktop
[01:42] <stupidBYdefault> correct.. no option for anything else..
[01:42] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  be a bit mroe detailed in what you mean..
[01:42] <dr_willis> theres 100's of options... for dozens of things..
[01:43] <Quen> Your choice of desktop environment depends entirely on what you want it to do.
[01:43] <X-warrior> If I try smbclient -L xyz -U inexistent_user... it asks for my password and "tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_PIPE_BROKEN"
[01:43] <stupidBYdefault> aha.. i am not sure how it say by name.. enviroment? gnome, unity..
[01:43] <Quen> I, personally, like KDE.
[01:43] <dr_willis> the ubuntu live cd - uses unity.. the kubuntu live cd uses Kde.
[01:43] <dr_willis> Lubuntu uses lxde...
[01:43] <X-warrior> my iptables -L don't show any rule
[01:44] <SolarisBoy> did you create any?
[01:44] <dr_willis> X-warrior:  that nt_status message seems to be a generic 'it failed' message.. i never have figured out what it really  means
[01:44] <SolarisBoy> !ufw
[01:44] <stupidBYdefault> no way to use this 12.04 lts with KDE?
[01:44] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  the Kubuntu live cd - loads to KDE.
[01:45] <X-warrior> dr_willis, uhmmm
[01:45] <black_baron_> warrior: ummm....what?
[01:45] <X-warrior> thinking
[01:46] <adnappanda> exit
[01:47] <stupidBYdefault> exit
[01:47] <stupidBYdefault> tnx all
[01:47] <stupidBYdefault> bye
[01:47] <X-warrior> what about this: NetBIOS over TCP disabled -- no workgroup available?
[01:48] <luck> hi
[01:48] <luck> my laptop touch pad doesn't work for ubuntu 12.04
[01:49] <luck> any idea?
[01:52] <orudie> can someone please give me some hints on how to make my ssh server a proxy server ? I tried ssh -D option from the manual, 'ssh -D 1080 proxy.hostname'
[01:53] <orudie> but it tries to just open ssh connection on port 1080
[01:54] <Tex_Nick> luck : you might state your hardware ... that way people will better know if they can help
[01:54] <panorain> is a 'slice' the same as a 'partition' is dealing with grub1 or 2 ?
[01:54] <Quen> Where do I look to find out whether or not I have LAME?
[01:55] <panorain> or does bsd use slices whereis ubuntu uses partitions?
[01:55] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  good to see you ;-)
[01:55] <panorain> Tex_Nick yo
[01:55] <panorain> Quen pull up a terminal  dpkg -l | less
[01:56] <panorain> Quen that will list you packages that have been or tried to install
[01:56] <luck> Tex_Nick: my laptop is Toshiba Satellite C855 series
[01:56] <panorain> Tex_Nick good to see you also
[01:57] <panorain> let me get lost for a bit i'll be back
[01:57] <Quen> Is LAME available via apt-get, it's not on my package list.
[01:57] <panorain> Quen I am not familiar with LAME you can look in synaptics if you have that apt installed
[01:58] <Vivekananda> couldnot find a specific channel for sqliteman for ubuntu. Can someone tell me keyboard shortcut to comment out lines
[01:58] <panorain> Quen open termianl  keys> dpkg-l |less
[01:58] <Quen> panorain; It's an mp3 codec for conversion purposes.
[01:59] <panorain> Quen dpkg will show you if Lame is installed with apt
[01:59] <dr_willis> !find lame
[01:59] <dr_willis> !info lame
[02:00] <panorain> dr_willis good to see you
[02:00] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: howdy
[02:00] <dr_willis> moo!
[02:01] <black_baron_> MOO!
[02:01] <dr_willis> thats an unusual version for lame.. never noticed somthing with 'repack' in the version  befor.
[02:02] <travis_> Ok, so the change user name command is a little confusing for me. Do I usermod -l <new name> <old name> ?
[02:02] <panorain> dr_willis do you reccomend dpkg-l |less for observing packages?
[02:03] <dr_willis> i rarely use  the more advanced commands of the apt system panorain .
[02:03] <panorain> dr_willis ok thank you
[02:03] <luck> dr_willis: do you know why touch pad not working in ubuntu
[02:04] <dr_willis> luck beacuse of the varity of touchpads.. and  the changes to the X input stuff i imagine. - I have heard/read that 13.04 improves touchpad support..
[02:04] <dr_willis> id check askubuntu.com for your specific hardware - to see if anyone has  any fixs or updates/patches..
[02:04] <luck> dr_willis: can  you tell me step by step? because my laptop touch pad is not working
[02:05] <dr_willis> luck i cant tell you step by step anything on the topic other then #1 - check askubuntu.com #2 check the forums for your  exact hardware. ;)
[02:05] <panorain> Quen did you see your package LAME in the command dpkg -l |less?
[02:06] <tremby> can someone please tell me if a standard installation of ubuntu 12.10 comes with curl and wget installed?
[02:06] <dr_willis> tremby:  i think curl yes.. not sure about  wget
[02:06] <Quen> No, so I assumed that meant it wasn't on my system and I'd have to install it; hence why I asked if it could be found via apt-get.
[02:06] <dr_willis> i dont recall ever insrtalling curl. but  i  have installed wget befor
[02:06] <tremby> dr_willis: how sure are you that curl is preinstalled?
[02:06] <needhelp_> Help!!! I hang on the purple screen when booting no matter how many time I reinstall the ubuntu. I can get to grub but then every thing purple.
[02:06] <dr_willis> i thought  apt uses curl to download stuff.
[02:07] <tremby> maybe libcurl, probably not curl commandline program
[02:07] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | needhelp_
[02:07] <panorain> Quen I am a noob I feel uncomfortable saying anything about sudo or root at this time
[02:07] <anna18> hi guys
[02:07] <panorain> Quen I am sorry I am not much help
[02:07] <elisa87> E: Package 'gcc-4.3' has no installation candidate
[02:07] <Quen> Ah, then we're in the same boat, at least.
[02:07] <elisa87> why so ? E: Package 'gcc-4.3' has no installation candidate
[02:08] <dr_willis> elisa87:  wrong package name.. or its not avail in the repos for  your release
[02:08] <needhelp_> Thx, let me try
[02:08] <dr_willis> or theres a new version replaceing it?
[02:08] <Quen> I tried searching out for LAME with apt-get -d, just to see if it exists; it's not out there.
[02:08] <panorain> Quen lett me have a look also
[02:08] <dr_willis> Quen:  apt-cache search lame   dosent show it?
[02:09] <Quen> I didn't know that command existed.
[02:09] <panorain> Quen switch to lowercase letters  lame
[02:09] <dr_willis> err.. its a core apt command. ;)
[02:09] <dr_willis> apt-get downloads/installs stuff... apt-cache  searches
[02:10] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lame                should  install it
[02:10] <Quen> I'm not really all that familiar with apt.
[02:10] <Quen> Or most of Linux, for that matter.
[02:10] <dr_willis> !apt
[02:10] <panorain> Quen 3.98.2 is on 10.04 repos  I am sorry I did not mention lower case lettering
[02:10] <Quen> My Windows machine borked a few days ago.
[02:11] <Quen> A reinstall left me without internet access for lack of a driver for my network card.
[02:11] <Quen> So here I am.
[02:11] <Quen> Tried it in lower case, that found it.
[02:11] <dr_willis> no drivers  for  your windows box? or linux  box?
[02:11] <panorain> Quen what type of wireless card do you have in your machine?
[02:11] <mdh> my favorite is cardboard box
[02:12] <dr_willis> amazing how the same driver works for  20+ differnt wireless cards in linux.. but windows needs 20 differnt driver downloads....
[02:12] <Quen> ^
[02:12] <Quen> Linux worked right out of the box.
[02:12] <panorain> dr_willis can I reccomend a ralinkrtl2561?
[02:12] <Quen> And I don't have the driver CD's because it's an AlienWare via mail-order.
[02:12] <panorain> dr_willis reccomend *
[02:13] <Quen> So Windows went out the window.
[02:13] <Quen> Heh.
[02:13] <dr_willis> I got some wifi dongles off amazon.. made sure the reviews said they  worked out of the box with ubuntu. ;P Plug  them in . they work..
[02:13] <panorain> Quen pm me I am a noob I am around
[02:13] <Quen> My network card is something that starts with Centrino.
[02:14] <sandmanslim> older laptop...dell latitude d420. Worth it to move to SSD? Would ubuntu run noticeably faster?
[02:14] <panorain> intell wireless
[02:14] <panorain> Quen I think your good
[02:14] <Quen> Hardware Info plasmoid gives me a little blurb on it.
[02:14] <panorain> Quen lspci in terminal
[02:14] <Quen> It worked out of the box with kubuntu.
[02:14] <panorain> Quen cool
[02:14] <packetfrog> sandmanslim,  Was your harddrive read/writes the problem before with that laptop?
[02:14] <packetfrog> If not, no.
[02:15] <escott> sandmanslim, if your problem is disk access sure, but its probably not disk access
[02:15] <sandmanslim> no problems, looking for performance increase
[02:15] <Quen> I'm on an ethernet port, but the wireless works too.
[02:16] <packetfrog> sandmanslim, Find out what is the bottleneck and you will know what to upgrade or spend more money on, on your next system.
[02:16] <panorain> Quen I only have wireless I know a bit about ralink pci card and wpa_supplicant from dapper drake
[02:16] <Quen> So, numerous reinserts, and I can mount a CD to rip tracks from it; that's solved. I think I have LAME now, gonna check that post-haste. I only have one major problem left to fix.
[02:17] <Quen> Wow, one day and I got all that done here; much more helpful than the official Kubuntu channel.
[02:17] <panorain> Quen reboot now if your data is backed up
[02:17] <sandmanslim> thanks packetfrog...i'm going to get serious about finding bottleneck. Processor tends to max out with more than one program running.
[02:17] <packetfrog> sandmanslim,  Then there is your first bottleneck. If your cpu is pegged   no point upgrading $100+ dollar ssd   itll still be pegged
[02:18] <mike777> need some help with server 12.10... logging in through putty... it shows there are 131 packages that can be udpated... but when i run update and upgrade... nothing comes back needing updated
[02:18] <sandmanslim> (sheepish) thank you!
[02:18] <Quen> panorain; Hm?
[02:20] <dr_willis> mike777: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   perhaps..  or the motd is just wrong..
[02:20] <mike777> there it is... thanks dr_willis
[02:21] <thecodethinker> How do I remove a link to a no longer existing file (I don't think I used link right but...) I try to install a new (to me) version of npm. I deleted the old one because I didn't get it from a repo but now when I type in "npm" it looks for the old npm installation. How do I tell it to look for the new one?
[02:21] <Quen> Alright, so, my last major issue on Kubuntu, probably the biggest as well; I'm missing OpenGL, and 3D acceleration support, after trying the proprietary nVidia drivers for my graphics card.
[02:22] <Quen> It worked fine out of the box, the Nouveau driver rendered MineCraft just fine.
[02:22] <thecodethinker> Quen: if it ain't broke, don't fix it ;)
[02:23] <Quen> Yeah, I realize my error by this point.
[02:23] <Quen> Can't play MineCraft any more.
[02:23] <thecodethinker> Quen: you should be able to set it back to that driver
[02:23] <Quen> It's running Nouveau again, but I'm still missing OpenGL and 3D support.
[02:24] <thecodethinker> Quen: do you have mesa installed?
[02:24] <Quen> Fairly certain.
[02:24] <Quen> Let me check.
[02:24] <thecodethinker> Quen: try sudo apt-get install libglw1-mesa
[02:26] <hero100> Is it possible to cut a new partition from root
[02:26] <thecodethinker> Quen: did that work?
[02:26] <thecodethinker> hero100: try gparted
[02:26] <Quen> "Unable to locate package".
[02:26] <thecodethinker> ??
[02:27] <thecodethinker> Quen: libglw1-mesa
[02:27] <Quen> Unless I spelled it wrong somehow.
[02:27] <thecodethinker> Quen: I may have typed it wrong
[02:27] <thecodethinker> Quen: I got that from apt-cache so... it's there
[02:27] <Quen> There it goes.
[02:27] <panorain> Tex_Nick can I pm you concerning partitions?
[02:27] <Quen> Installed.
[02:27] <thecodethinker> try minecraft now
[02:28] <thecodethinker> if it doesn't work... try reboot... then... see if that workds
[02:28] <thecodethinker> works*
[02:28] <Quen> I know this screen, it crashed and the crash screen has yet to come up.
[02:28] <Quen> Reboot it is.
[02:28] <thecodethinker> gl
[02:29] <Quen> Before that;
[02:29] <thecodethinker> anyway can anyone help me with my issue?
[02:29] <thecodethinker> Quen: oh?
[02:29] <panorain> dr_willis grub2 picks up and boots my 2nd drive distro but I get errors
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  sure :)
[02:29] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok thanks
[02:29] <subcool> Can someone help me with a /home issue?
[02:30] <Quen> In the info center, when I click on Graphical Information, then OpenGL, it gives me an error saying "Could not initialize OpenGL."
[02:30] <litropy> I'm trying to get hardware temperature info from CLI. lm-sensors can't find any modules to load, and nv-clock says, "Error: temperature monitoring isn't supported on your videocard." Ideas?
[02:30] <subcool> i just re-installed kubuntu, but my computer drops boot once passing the ubuntu gear
[02:30] <thecodethinker> Quen: o to system settings. I have an idea
[02:31] <thecodethinker> Quen: after that go to software sources
[02:31] <thecodethinker> Quen: tell me when that opens up
[02:32] <Quen> I don't see software sources on here.
[02:32] <thecodethinker> Quen:  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:32] <thecodethinker> 12.04?
[02:32] <Quen> 12.10, though I'm using the KDE environment.
[02:32] <thecodethinker> it should be there. at the bottom of system settings
[02:33] <Quen> But #kubuntu has been absolutely /no/ help the past couple days.
[02:34] <thecodethinker> hmm... look in that kde search thing for software sources
[02:34] <thecodethinker> Quen: I'm going to download kubuntu real fast in a VM.
[02:35] <Quen> I can't find anything on software sources.
[02:35] <thecodethinker> Quen: let me grab kubuntu. I'll help u then. in like 5 mins
[02:35] <thecodethinker> In the mean time (looks up)
[02:35] <needhelp_> For the PURPLE screen boot problem, I still get purple after change the parameter of the nomodeset. I used the "temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS" of the link.
[02:36] <thecodethinker> How do I remove a link to a no longer existing file (I don't think I used link right but...) I try to install a new (to me) version of npm. I deleted the old one because I didn't get it from a repo but now when I type in "npm" it looks for the old npm installation. How do I tell it to look for the new one?
[02:36] <Quen> I literally have all night, I'll get this fixed one way or another.
[02:36] <thecodethinker> Quen: torrents are amazing so the kubutnu download won't take long
[02:38] <Quen> In the mean time, how in the world to I use the "rename" command properly?
[02:38] <hero100> thecodethinker: gparted cannot make change to root partition
[02:38] <Quen> I have a bunch of files prepended with the same string and I want to get rid of it.
[02:39] <ltrottier> So, weirdest thing: all (and only) my "e" characters have been replaced by a unicode symbol I don't recognize
[02:39] <Quen> That /is/ weird...
[02:39] <ltrottier> and only in ubuntu GUI, not in normal console
[02:40] <ltrottier> in gui console, yes, but not in ctrl-alt-fx console
[02:40] <Quen> That's weirder than how my GUI desktop clock randomly set itself to UDT from my normal timezone.
[02:41] <ttoti> Wrong keyboard layout?
[02:41] <ltrottier> one character/
[02:41] <ltrottier> ?
[02:43] <ltrottier> I guess I should just restart
[02:49] <Guest27533> Does ubuntu runs on arm v6
[02:50] <elisa87> E: Package 'glutg3-dev' has no installation candidate what should I do?
[02:52] <ScottJensen> postfix or sendmail?
[02:52] <CrazyArseMutt> any ideas on where i can talk about the free fcc internet? and popular tech rooms anyone here know about?
[02:53] <elisa87> how can I install a .deb? glutg3-dev_3.7-25_all.deb
[02:55] <Guest27533> Avu
[02:55] <Onixs>  possible to install ubuntu n usb and run it there
[02:55] <Onixs> not installer , but a full running os
[02:55] <ltrottier> (fixed on restart … still awfully strange)
[02:55] <Guest27533> Yes
[02:55] <CrazyArseMutt> any ideas on where i can talk about the free fcc internet? and popular tech rooms anyone here know about?
[02:56] <CrazyArseMutt> oh, sorry i didnt realize i had pasted already - my bad
[02:56] <Guest27533> Possible on usb
[02:56] <CrazyArseMutt> yeah
[02:56] <CrazyArseMutt> yes on usb
[02:56] <CrazyArseMutt> but the trick will be to get it to save os changes you make when it is running live onthe usb
[02:56] <Guest27533> What is fcc internet
[02:57] <sdfsasf> hey, can someone help me with lilo?
[02:57] <CrazyArseMutt> its a really good idea the director had recently
[02:57] <nintnint> hey
[02:58] <luck> nintnint: hi
[02:58] <Guest27533> Hoooooff!!
[02:58] <nintnint> hows everybody doing to(morning/day/night)
[02:58] <Guest27533> Does ubuntu runs on arm v6
[02:58] <sdfsasf> why can't I get any help? :(
[02:58] <fauxhebro> Hey guys, I have an alienware laptop with Raid0 setup. I have made 500gb free of space but am unsure of installation, everything seems to be leading me in different directions
[02:58] <elisa87> [../../bin/linux/release/randomFog] Error 1   undefined reference to `gluErrorString' apparently  cannot find -lGLU
[02:58] <spencer> If I want to use postfix to get mail on my system. Should my "mail name" be xxx@machine.mysite.com?
[02:59] <Guest27533> Good mrng!
[02:59] <nintnint> fauxhebro, what do you mean
[02:59] <fauxhebro> I want to install Ubuntu alongside windows 7
[02:59] <nintnint> sounds simple
[02:59] <fauxhebro> i am a noob
[02:59] <fauxhebro> do i enable fakeraid ?
[02:59] <fauxhebro> thank you for the assistance btw
[02:59] <nintnint> fauxhebro, do what your heart tells you.
[03:00] <fauxhebro> -___-
[03:00] <nintnint> because i have no clue.
[03:00] <dr_willis> !raid
[03:00] <spencer> fauxhebro: no need to enable fake raid especialy if you are a noob
[03:00] <fauxhebro> thanks tho lol
[03:00] <CrazyArseMutt> faux do it through the official ubuntu site - and always check the official windows site before you do those things - you want to make sure you follow manufacturer's recomendations
[03:00] <thecodethinker> Quen: did anyone help u or are you still waiting on me?
[03:00] <Quen> thecodethinker; I'm still waiting.
[03:01] <thecodethinker> Quen: okay sorry about that
[03:01] <fauxhebro> thank you, reading now this seems helpful
[03:01] <Quen> Plenty to pass the time with, but having mineCraft would make passing time even easier.
[03:01] <nintnint> im about to get minecraft going
[03:01] <thecodethinker> Quen: i didn't have vbox installed so... doing that
[03:01] <nintnint> from what I know I need the .jar file and to run it as an executable.
[03:01] <Quen> I see.
[03:01] <nintnint> i read that should work.
[03:02] <Guest27533> How Can i play minecraft on android
[03:02] <fauxhebro> So do I install fakeraid and then install on partitions beside Windows 7 ?
[03:02] <Quen> Guest27533; With the Android MineCraft App.
[03:02] <Quen> MineCraft Pocket Edition.
[03:03] <thecodethinker> Quen: u sure like MC huh?
[03:03] <nintnint> yay it works
[03:03] <Guest27533> Thanku:-)
[03:03] <Quen> It's my anti-drug.
[03:03] <nintnint> see quen..
[03:03] <thecodethinker> Quen: lol?
[03:03] <nintnint> minecraft is my drug..
[03:03] <Quen> ^
[03:03] <thecodethinker> lol!
[03:03] <thecodethinker> I get bored of it after a week. then I play it again... then get bored again
[03:03] <thecodethinker> I like looking at it's code though
[03:04] <thecodethinker> Notch and jeb did a hell of a job
[03:04] <Quen> ^
[03:04] <Quen> ^
[03:04] <k4ib1l45> do you want real hard drugs?
[03:04] <al_la> Running 12.10, after a normal restart, my screen no longer locks on power save->inactive.  Tried changing settings, restarting, etc, but still won't lock.  Thoughts?
[03:04] <nintnint> I can't get into the game enough to do stuff like farming, enchanting, making villages, maps, trading things..
[03:04] <thecodethinker> k4ib1l45: no nobody like dwarf fortress
[03:04] <Quen> I'm not fluent in java, but I like trying to figure it out.
[03:04] <thecodethinker> Quen: java is .... (sigh) I wish they didn't use java
[03:04] <Quen> That bad, huh?
[03:04] <CrazyArseMutt> i dont know why you pguys like that game - the grapohics ar ehorrendous
[03:04] <thecodethinker> Quen: it can be
[03:05] <Quen> I'm learning C++ for college presently.
[03:05] <k4ib1l45> C is for the real men
[03:05] <Quen> I've heard a bunch of people whine about Java.
[03:05] <CrazyArseMutt> if you like that stuff why dont you just play with a ti-89 calculator all day?>
[03:05] <nintnint> CrazyArseMutt, because it looks simplistic and maybe kind of old school.
[03:05] <Guest27533> I have linux installed in my android, but it is not able to connect with any sensor(bluetooth, speakers..etc) it just runs in terminal or vnc app. How to fix this, plz help!
[03:05] <thecodethinker> Quen: a little while ago java had a really bad security hole. It was recomended by M$ and I think the NSA to disable java
[03:05] <nintnint> CrazyArseMutt, because a ti-89 is really expensive!
[03:05] <CrazyArseMutt> the ti-89 is old school and then there is graph paper
[03:05] <thecodethinker> Quen: also it takes like 50 lines of code to do something that C++ can do in 2 lines
[03:05] <Quen> I see.
[03:06] <Guest27533> (Guest27533) I have linux installed in my android, but it is not able to connect with any sensor(bluetooth, speakers..etc) it just runs in terminal or vnc app. How to fix this, plz help!
[03:06] <CrazyArseMutt> nah you can get one for 60$ kep checking ebay and amazon they are out there
[03:06] <Quen> Like how haskell can make sorting algorythims in 7 lines that C does in 20?
[03:06] <Guest27533> My linux in android also compiles c  c++ java and do python. But now i want bluetooth..
[03:07] <thecodethinker> Quen: yeah but haskell is made for that
[03:07] <thecodethinker> Quen: C++ is general purpose. Haskell is more math oriented
[03:07] <Quen> True.
[03:07] <CrazyArseMutt> you can get a ti-89 program to run as a gui too
[03:07] <Quen> I've been thinking about toying with LISP.
[03:07] <CrazyArseMutt> just a solid graphing calculator
[03:07] <thecodethinker> Quen: I like haxe. currently my favorite language
[03:07] <thecodethinker> Quen: and I am learning JS to get into webgl
[03:07] <thecodethinker> Quen: I make games :P
[03:08] <Quen> *yay*
[03:08] <Guest27533> Good day frnds! Keep smiling
[03:09] <thecodethinker> Quen: so running kubuntu in a VM with 512mb of memory is fun -_-
[03:09] <Quen> Heh.
[03:09] <Quen> Ouch.
[03:09] <Guest27533> (Guest27533) (Guest27533) I have linux installed in my android, but it is not able to connect with any sensor(bluetooth, speakers..etc) it just runs in terminal or vnc app. How to fix this, plz help!
[03:09] <thecodethinker> Quen: woot ... crash -_-
[03:09] <Quen> 1G would be better, if you can spare it.
[03:10] <Guest27533> (Guest27533) My linux in android also compiles c  c++ java and do python. But now i want bluetooth..
[03:10] <Quen> I take 0.7G with nothing running.
[03:10] <thecodethinker> Quen: well my computer only has 16Gb... but i would have to put in work to change it...
[03:10] <thecodethinker> Guest27533: android runs on linux....
[03:10] <Quen> Oh, my, such effort!
[03:10] <thecodethinker> Quen: ikr it's like 5 clicks
[03:10] <Quen> The horror!
[03:11] <Guest27533> No i have linux on android
[03:11] <CrazyArseMutt> will android get into making os for coreboot and google open os?
[03:11] <Guest27533> In ch root linux runs on android. (Debian and ubuntu)
[03:12] <thecodethinker> Guest27533: android runs on linux... not the other way around. Ur are just acessing a shell...
[03:12] <thecodethinker> I can
[03:12] <thecodethinker> 't spell :'(
[03:13] <thecodethinker> Quen: go to system then additional drivers
[03:13] <thecodethinker> WOOT ANOTHER CRASH -_-
[03:13] <Guest27533> Yes assesig a shell . Complete linux installer app and debian.iso in chroot in sdcard
[03:13] <thecodethinker> Guest27533: but still not linux on android
[03:13] <Quen> The additional drivers were the problem I tried to undo using.
[03:13] <thecodethinker> Quen: you should be able to there
[03:14] <Quen> I have all of the drivers there disabled.
[03:14] <thecodethinker> what driver are u currently using?
[03:14] <Quen> Nouveau.
[03:14] <dr_willis> Quen:  got no old xorg.conf being used causing issues?
[03:14] <Guest27533> So can i get sensors in that shell
[03:14] <Quen> Purged the xorg.conf.
[03:15] <thecodethinker> Guest27533: idk. Ur kind of hacking ur way through that. I'm not sure if people here can help
[03:15] <dr_willis> made sure the modules are not blacklisted still Quen ?
[03:15] <Quen> Not sure how to find that, dr_willis.
[03:15] <thecodethinker> Quen: did u try reinstalling Kubuntu?
[03:15] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[03:15] <Guest27533> Thanku! Good day
[03:15] <thecodethinker> Quen: that fixes everything
[03:15] <CrazyArseMutt> Guest27533, what are you trying to do?  get you internal mobo sensors operational?
[03:15] <dr_willis> in /etc/modprob.d/ there mightbe  a blacklist  entry  for the noveau drivers
[03:16] <Quen> I have some stuff installed that I don't want to drop.
[03:16] <CrazyArseMutt> oh, nevermind - way outta my league
[03:16] <thecodethinker> Quen: back it up :D. just saying... super easy fix to everything
[03:17] <Quen> The blacklist in modprob.d says not to edit the file manually.
[03:18] <Quen> There's four entries with nouveau in them.
[03:18] <dr_willis> i would move them out to some other directory. or comment  them.. that may  be  the issue
[03:18] <dr_willis> the  nvidia drivers may  have added the  lines.. but  dident remove them
[03:18] <Nanaharu> so I'm installing ubuntu and it seems like it's stuck at congifuring hardware... Is it just slow or will it eventually time out if nothings happening?
[03:19] <thecodethinker> How do I remove a link to a no longer existing file (I don't think I used link right but...) I try to install a new (to me) version of npm. I deleted the old one because I didn't get it from a repo but now when I type in "npm" it looks for the old npm installation. How do I tell it to look for the new one?
[03:19] <dr_willis> thecodethinker:  just rm it like  yiu  would a file
[03:19] <Quen> What of a part of lines the likes of "alias *nouveau off"?
[03:19] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: rm what tho?
[03:19] <Quen> I presume I should comment those as well?
[03:20] <dr_willis> thecodethinker:  the link.
[03:20] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: see I don't think i used link right. I am trying to change a term command
[03:20] <dr_willis> Quen:  ive not really  had to mess with it . so im not sure. I  just recall seeing others get things stuck  as blacklisted
[03:20] <ntzrmtth1hu777> nick ntzrmtthihu777
[03:20] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: thecodethinker@5AGE:~/Documents/Tools/cloud9/bin$ node
[03:20] <thecodethinker> bash: /usr/local/bin/node: No such file or directory
[03:20] <Quen> Hrm, it says the file was created by an nvidia driver, maybe I could just get rid of it?
[03:21] <CrazyArseMutt> what are the best rooms for tech discussions?
[03:21] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: trying it change it from looking in /usr/local/bin/node to just /usr/bin
[03:21] <dr_willis> thecodethinker:  if yoou  deleted a binary from your path.  the shell sort of caches whats in the path. the  rehash command  would make it rescan.  try 'which node'  to  see what  one its trying to run
[03:22] <dr_willis> i  think its rehash
[03:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> is irc.ubuntu.net still active or can I delete that from my irssi config?
[03:22] <nintnint> meet a giant fish.
[03:22] <nintnint> love its brains out
[03:23] <nintnint> turn in to a jet
[03:23] <Quen> Only after you black out in the sewer.
[03:23] <nintnint> EAT SOME CHICKEN STRIPS
[03:23] <Quen> Then you bomb the Russians and crash into the sun.
[03:23] <SolarisBoy> now im hungry again
[03:24] <wayne__> I'm jacked up on sleeping pills
[03:24] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: which node gave me the right path
[03:24] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: so did which npm
[03:24] <dr_willis> thecodethinker:  try it in a new xterm   'xterm -ls' and see if it works
[03:25] <nintnint> wayne__, why
[03:25] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: that worked. thanks
[03:25] <dr_willis> thecodethinker:  bash  is cacheing the filenames of your path.. all you got to do  is log out/nback  in  basically
[03:25] <Tex_Nick> nintnint:  chill out man
[03:26] <Quen> Alright, popped the conf files made by the nVidia driver.
[03:26] <dr_willis> xterm -ls => login shell..  it rescans/rereads configs...  like  its a initial shell
[03:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: or could he do source ~/.bashrc ?
[03:26] <thecodethinker> dr_willis: i see.. thanks man
[03:26] <dr_willis> i recall the 'rehash' command correcting the issue also.. but  been ages ago since i  last use d it
[03:26] <subcool> i just re-installed kubuntu, but my computer drops boot once passing the ubuntu gear
[03:26] <subcool> Can someone help me with a /home issue?
[03:26] <cuser> !kubuntu
[03:27] <cuser> !kde
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuser: do that at yourself, like !kde > cuser
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> cuser: it will send it to you as a pm, so it does not flood the channel
[03:29] <dr_willis> just  /msg ubottu help
[03:29] <dr_willis> then have a deep meaningfull  conversation in private
[03:29] <dr_willis> some clients its /query ubottu  :)
[03:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> or /q ubottu
[03:31] <cuser> !xubuntu > cuser
[03:31] <Quen> Hrm, how on earth do I use the "rename" command?
[03:32] <cuser> where is the torrent url and hash for latest stable release of ubuntu?
[03:33] <cuser> also. where can i find the linux game irc channel?
[03:33] <bazhang> !hashes | cuser
[03:33] <bazhang> !torrents | cuser
[03:33] <bazhang> cuser  #ubuntu-steam
[03:33] <cuser> thanks. bazhang
[03:34] <cuser> any others?
[03:35] <bazhang> !alis | cuser have a search
[03:35] <warfaren> is there any way i can disable the keymapping for Alt+Left/Right to switch between virtual consoles?
[03:35] <warfaren> the program i'm using is also using those keymaps and i dont want virtual console switching to override it
[03:36] <lottowinner> 'netstat -s | less' reads: "Tcp: 13926 active connections openings". That seems like a lot of connections(?) and last night it was over 200,000. That sure does seem high I guess.
[03:37] <Quen> Can anyone here tell me how to use the rename command via terminal to remove a common prepended series of characters on several files at once?
[03:38] <danlee> !ubuntu
[03:38] <danlee> !ubuntu > danlee
[03:38] <warfaren> Quen: i think you're best off using a for loop
[03:38] <warfaren> Quen: if you let me PM you i can give you an example
[03:38]  * Quen isn't writing a script.
[03:39] <Nanaharu> My installer is stuck at configuring hardware. What do I do?
[03:39] <warfaren> no, this isn't about a script either. for loops can be used directly on the command line
[03:39] <Quen> I'd use the man page to figure it out, but it's completely unclear on how to use the command.
[03:40] <din> Quen, something like rename 's/foo/bar/g' *.txt
[03:40] <warfaren> yeah something like that
[03:41] <Quen> But what of that regex statement gets replaced with the other?
[03:41] <din> foo gets replaced with bar
[03:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: foo gets replaced with bat
[03:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> *bar
[03:41] <din> give me an example of your file name
[03:41] <din> you can try it on one file first then use * for all files.
[03:42] <Quen> "Job\ for\ a\ Cowboy\ -\ 01\ -\ Bearing\ the\ Serpents\ Lamb.wav" The all start with everything before the 01.
[03:42] <Quen> And I want to get rid of that bunch at the start.
[03:42] <warfaren> yeah so s/'Job for a Cowboy'//g
[03:42] <din> what he said.
[03:42] <warfaren> oh and' - '
[03:42] <din> :)
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: as much as i love bash-scripting you can easily do this with a graphical tool named gprename
[03:43] <warfaren> in fact you wont even need the g
[03:43] <Quen> ntzrmtthihu777; See, I didn't know that existed.
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: I use it all the time with my music colletion
[03:43] <din> Quen, just try it with the one file name for a test.
[03:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: but the rename command is rather nice
[03:43] <warfaren> or do like me. use the echo command first rather than rename
[03:43] <marcs1989> Hello. I'm a regular Ubuntu user and I don't really have enough experience to dev, but I was just wondering if there was any official announcement about the 'auto-hide launcher' feature and if it was going to be getting a patch anytime soon?
[03:43] <warfaren> then you'll see what it will look like but nothing actually happens
[03:44] <warfaren> if you're happy, just bring back the command and replace echo with mv or rename or whatever you're using
[03:44] <din> rename 's/Job for a Cowboy -'//g' *01*Serpents.wav
[03:44] <warfaren> din: think you're missing a '
[03:44] <din> doh
[03:45] <din> rename "s/'Job for a Cowboy -'//g" *01*Serpents.wav
[03:45] <din> that looks better. :)
[03:45] <warfaren> indeed
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> gotta watch out for those quotes ;)
[03:45] <warfaren> yup :P
[03:45] <xxiao> diff 'sudo -i' 'sudo -s'
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: in sed you can use things other that / as a delimiter in order to avoid having to escape the /'s in pathnames, can you do the same in rename?
[03:46] <Quen> Didn't remove the string.
[03:46] <xxiao> what's the difference...sudo -i vs sudo -s
[03:46] <xxiao> even sudo su
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience > xxiao
[03:47] <xxiao> less typing than su - root
[03:47] <din> Quen, i'll make the file here, figure it out and give you the command.
[03:47] <Quen> Appreciated, the man page doesn't tell me anything I can figure out.
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> din: not to undercut you, but perhaps Quen should go with gprename. its pretty easy to learn.
[03:47] <warfaren> Quen: the manpage on what? rename?
[03:47] <Quen> warfaren; Yeah.
[03:48] <warfaren> ok
[03:48] <din> well, i refuse to be defeated by a regex ;)
[03:48] <dr_willis> use sudo -i   other ways can goof up settings
[03:48] <Quen> ntzrmtthihu777; I'd like to learn the terminal command, regardless.
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: kk, just a thought.
[03:48] <dr_willis> i always look up rename examples
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: what was the filename again or the general format?
[03:48] <Quen> I'm fairly new to Linux and I want to make myself at least mostly proficient.
[03:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: good. the best way, I find, is to try stuff :P
[03:49] <Quen> All the filenames start with "Job\ for\ a\ Cowboy\ -\ ".
[03:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> and you want that gone?
[03:49] <Quen> Followed by a number, then the track name.
[03:49] <warfaren> haha reminds me of all those times i tried to mass rename stuff and ending up combining all the files into one file :(
[03:49] <Quen> Yes, I want that first common bit gone.
[03:49] <warfaren> well, overwriting them one by one really
[03:50] <din> rename "s/Job\ for\ a\ Cowboy\ -//g" Job*.wav did it for me.
[03:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> yep, thats it.
[03:50] <warfaren> 's should work fine in the s/// syntax, so you dont have to worry about escaping all those spaces
[03:51] <din> yeah, it's a force of habit.
[03:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> same, lol
[03:51] <warfaren> yeah well whatever you're comfortable with :)
[03:51] <warfaren> besides i think the backslash is harder for me to write then you guys.. i have a swedish keyboard
[03:51] <Quen> Still have the first spaces, what would I stick in to get rid of those, without nixing the rest of the spacing of then names?
[03:52] <warfaren> on your keyboard it's just one key to write it right? not a key combo?
[03:52] <din> what first spaces?
[03:52] <warfaren> backslashes
[03:52] <Quen> "\ " at the very start.
[03:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: 's/^ //g'
[03:52] <Quen> Just one off the front.
[03:52] <din> yup.
[03:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: the ^ signifies the start of the filename
[03:53] <din> and $ signifies the end (for future reference)
[03:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> din: ahhh, thankya, I did not know that one
[03:53] <Quen> I've learned more here than from reading the entire manpage for rename, thanks.
[03:53] <subcool> Can someone help me with a /home issue?
[03:53] <subcool> i just re-installed kubuntu, but my computer drops boot once passing the ubuntu gear
[03:53] <subcool> I dont even know how to google it
[03:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: the manpages are pretty good for refreshing, but sometimes you need a live example to understand, no?
[03:54] <din> yean ntzrmtthihu777 so 's/ $//g' would remove spaces at the end.
[03:54] <warfaren> if you don't get an answer for a while, is it okay to repeat your question here? i mean i guess no1 will see my question after it getting pushed up so far
[03:54] <Quen> Yeah, can't argue with that.
[03:54] <noenoe> hello everybody...
[03:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> warfaren: whassup?
[03:54] <jason_> hi
[03:54] <warfaren> i was asking if i can disable alt+left/right toggling virtual consoles
[03:54] <Quen> There we go, now to try it on the other directory full of prepended identifiers.
[03:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> warfaren: you mean the desktops?
[03:55] <warfaren> no, virtual consoles. the ones you get to when you press ctrl+alt+f1 through f6
[03:55] <din> Quen, when you are comfortable with it, you can use * to specify all the files.
[03:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: make sure you clip it all off at once, makes it simpler.
[03:55] <din> of course nothing that doesn't match won't be affected.
[03:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> warfaren: aaah, the tty's
[03:56] <Quen> All done, thanks guys.
[03:56] <warfaren> well yeah...
[03:56] <warfaren> nice1
[03:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> warfaren: exactly why do you want to disable it?
[03:56] <DigitRig> if I use "locate somefilenamehere" how can I grep for the first result?
[03:56] <warfaren> because it overrides sending that key combo to my program
[03:56] <noenoe> if i wanna upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04...the data safe to that place?
[03:56] <Quen> Much quicker and less repetitive than renaming each one by one in Dolphin.
[03:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> DigitRig: use locate foo | more
[03:56] <din> DigitRig, locate file|head -1
[03:56] <Quen> And now that I actually know roughly how to do it, more convenient.
[03:56] <warfaren> and i'm fine with pressing alt+f1, f2 etc instead.. i dont switch VT's as often as i use the key combo for my program
[03:57] <din> warfaren, there's a way, trying to recall.
[03:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Quen: yeah, i'm glad I got in on this learning session, I may be able to do some nifty for looped renaming now
[03:57] <warfaren> :)
[03:57] <Quen> *yay*
[03:57] <din> warfaren, check out /etc/inittab
[03:58] <Quen> I knew there had to be some power in the rename command, and now I know at least the basics of how to use it.
[03:58] <warfaren> din: oO it's not on my system
[03:58] <warfaren> i'm really surprised
[03:58] <din> well, i use all sorts of linux/unix machines. it's usually there.
[03:59] <din> heh, not on mine either.
[03:59] <warfaren> Quen: yeah, well in fact that power comes from the regular expressions and you find those everywhere, not just in rename
[03:59] <warfaren> haha
[03:59] <warfaren> i really expeced it to be there
[03:59] <warfaren> i'mma do find / -name inittab
[04:00] <din> warfaren, looks like you can just mv /etc/init/tty1.conf{,.bak}
[04:00] <din> that would disable tty1
[04:00] <din> so on and so forth for the rest.
[04:00] <warfaren> hm you mean so i'll end up with just one tty?
[04:00] <din> or however many you want.
[04:01] <din> the {,.bak} is a shortcut for renaming it...
[04:01] <din> fyi
[04:01] <warfaren> how's that gonna stop the key combo?
[04:01] <din> honestly i just googled it.
[04:01] <din> heh
[04:01] <warfaren> the only way i see that stopping it is leaving only one tty left so there's none other to switch to
[04:01] <warfaren> alright
[04:01] <warfaren> i was doing that before too
[04:01] <dr_willis> !inittab
[04:01] <dr_willis> upstart dosent use initab
[04:01] <warfaren> but all i could find was a list of the key combinations
[04:01] <din> you'll likely have to reboot after doing that.
[04:01] <Cyclohexane> Is it possible to ssh using a proxy? e.g. ssh -lroot host --proxy proxy.com:2992
[04:02] <Grimhound> I have a question. What is LVM, and is it worth installing with a new Ubuntu installation?
[04:02] <warfaren> Cyclohexane: sure, for one you could use tsocks
[04:02] <warfaren> but there are probably better solutions
[04:02] <dr_willis> !lvm
[04:02] <dr_willis> Grimhound: ive never needed it.
[04:02] <Cyclohexane> warfaren: how would I use tsocks?
[04:03] <Quen> Is it possible to use Kfrb to remote in to my Kubuntu machine from a different network; or can it only do LAN?
[04:03] <dr_willis> it lets you resize partitions and things on the fly
[04:03] <warfaren> Cyclohexane: it requires you to have a socks proxy available
[04:03] <Cyclohexane> warfaren: I will have a socks available
[04:03] <warfaren> you install tsocks, set up its config to point out the ip and port to the socks proxy, then you use it as a launcher for the command
[04:03] <warfaren> so basically tsocks ssh user@host
[04:03] <Cyclohexane> ah ok
[04:03] <Grimhound> Is there any downside to installing LVM?
[04:03] <warfaren> i'm not 100% sure it will work with ssh, though
[04:03] <Grimhound> Does it take up resources?
[04:04] <warfaren> but i think it might
[04:04] <Grimhound> Is it worth it if I'm installing Xubuntu onto a ratty old laptop?
[04:04] <dr_willis> Grimhound: doubtfull if you need it
[04:04] <din> Grimhound, LVM is logical volume management.
[04:05] <warfaren> isn't a lot of distros using LVM by default nowadays?
[04:05] <din> you know, combine several disks, into one logical volume, create raid 1 mirrors etc...
[04:05] <warfaren> Grimhound: how old is your laptop?
[04:05] <dr_willis> warfaren: i think redhat does.
[04:06] <Grimhound> It's a Compaq Presario C700 series
[04:06] <warfaren> right now i'm typing on an IBM thinkpad 600X with a pentium III 500mhz and 512MB ram
[04:06] <Grimhound> So... 2005-ey
[04:06] <Grimhound> I want to say, anyway
[04:06] <warfaren> it's running ubuntu 12.04 with X stopped
[04:06] <warfaren> running great
[04:07] <warfaren> but i intend to replace it with a faster distro eventually
[04:07] <din> warfaren, i'm on a macbook (2007) dual booting os x and ubuntu. :)
[04:07] <warfaren> surely a 2005 laptop shouldn't have any major problems with most distros i think
[04:07] <warfaren> depends on what you intend to do with it
[04:07] <warfaren> ah nice
[04:07] <Keyman009> Anyone feel like helping me understand why my current installation of libpcap cannot be seen by the ./configure script for DAQ-2.0.0?
[04:08] <Keyman009> I have a fresh install of Server 12.4.2
[04:09] <din> Keyman009, generally there's a log in the directory that will tell you what happened.
[04:09] <din> after the config.
[04:09] <din> maybe config.log... or something of the sort.
[04:09] <holstein> Keyman009: maybe whatever DAQ is expects a different version
[04:09] <Keyman009> Yes I have read the log... it just tells me that it cannot see an installation of libpcap version 1.0.0 or greater.
[04:10] <Keyman009> But it is installed (version 1.1.1 )
[04:10] <holstein> Keyman009: where did you get DAQ?
[04:11] <Keyman009> from snort.org
[04:11] <din> i've run into this a lot and have had to install the dev libs as well. i haven't checked to see if there is one for libpcap
[04:11] <warfaren> hm maybe you need to find where the .so file is and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to that directory?
[04:11] <din> Keyman009, try installing libpcap-dev and running it again.
[04:12] <Keyman009> There are a number of ways to get it working, and I can get it to work. I am just trying to understand where it is currently looking by default.
[04:12] <warfaren> ok
[04:12] <din> strace ./configure ? :)
[04:12] <Keyman009> I will give that a try and see what it tells me.
[04:17] <subcool> histo, hey you around?
[04:20] <t0rch> able ubuntu torrent. sry pc crashed so am repeating
[04:20] <t0rch> looking for Link to most recent long term support torrent ubuntu.
[04:21] <t0rch> !ubuntu
[04:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> t0rch: releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[04:22] <t0rch> link?
[04:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> t0rch: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[04:22] <Tex_Nick> t0rch:  see if this helps ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[04:23] <Tex_Nick> t0rch:  sorry thqat's not what you asked for ;(
[04:23] <dherly> hi
[04:23] <holstein> there are torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[04:24] <dherly> does anybody knows any oracle channel?
[04:24] <Keyman009> yea... strace isn't giving me anything that I can use.
[04:24] <din> Keyman009, hmm.
[04:25] <din> have you looked in the config script itself?
[04:25] <din> s/config/configure
[04:25] <holstein> dherly: you have tried /join #oracle i assume
[04:26] <histo> subcool: yeah
[04:26] <histo> subcool: just popped in
[04:26] <holstein> Keyman009: its a non-repo package, so if you can make it work, i would just make it work, and not worry about why its not seeing the deps
[04:26] <Keyman009> din, I have, but it's a hard read for me....
[04:26] <Keyman009> holstein, I am looking to learn more about linux.... not really get an application working.
[04:27] <din> give me the link where you got it from
[04:27] <din> i'll check it out.
[04:27] <t0rch> MSG self !valve
[04:27] <Keyman009> http://www.snort.org/downloads/2216
[04:27] <t0rch> MSG t0rch !valve
[04:28] <dherly> can't talk on #oracle
[04:28] <t0rch> !valve
[04:28] <t0rch> !steam
[04:28] <holstein> dherly: check the /topic, and register if you are not
[04:29] <histo> Keyman009: What application are you trying to install?
[04:29] <Keyman009> snort 2.9.4.1
[04:29] <din> Keyman009, have you tried the "--with-libpcap-libraries=DIR" option?
[04:29] <Keyman009> it needs DAQ 2.0.0 as a prereq
[04:30] <mneptok> Keyman009: why not use the package?
[04:30] <histo> Keyman009: Any reason you can't use the version of snort int he repos?
[04:30] <subcool> histo, awesome- so- i got past that issue from yesterday, the grub stuff. Appears my grub is fine- whats going on is its stopping when coming to my /home folder i believe. and im not really sure how to google it.
[04:30] <histo> subcool: Did you encrypt your home folder during installation?
[04:30] <Keyman009> I was told it was better to compile from source rather than use a package.
[04:30] <mneptok> Keyman009: apparently not, eh?
[04:31] <mneptok> Keyman009: it's also a really bad idea to have compiler tools on a machine that needs intrusion detection
[04:31] <histo> Keyman009: You should only be compiling from source if there is a feature missing in the package from the repos. They've been tested and are known working with your current setup.
[04:31] <Keyman009> No... mneptok.. I can get this working... no problem. I just download the libpcap source and compile and install myself and I can get it going.
[04:32] <histo> Keyman009: Perhaps you should as the "snort" people on how to install their package then.
[04:32] <mneptok> Keyman009: then i guess you don't need help ;)
[04:32] <din> Keyman009, sudo apt-get install libpcap-dev bison flex
[04:32] <din> then configure worked for me.
[04:32] <Keyman009> histo, I understand your point, but this what was told to me by a previous sourfire employee and snort expert.
[04:32] <Keyman009> er that was sourcefire exployee
[04:32] <histo> Keyman009: then ask him for help. Or learn more about installing software
[04:33] <Keyman009> histo that is exatly what I am trying to do.
[04:33] <histo> Keyman009: bad advice is still bad advice it doesn't matter who is giving it to you.
[04:33] <mneptok> Keyman009: i'd use the packaged version. and i was the first person Canonical hired to support Ubuntu commercially. :P
[04:33] <wayne__> How can I back up my movies with linux ubuntu
[04:33] <Keyman009> Um... that's coming 2nd level down from the maker of snort.
[04:33] <mneptok> Keyman009: you're better off asking that person, then.
[04:34] <Keyman009> Marty Roesch is not exactly someone I can just call up :)
[04:34] <histo> wayne__: Where are they currently stored?
[04:35] <wayne__> dvd and blu ray disks
[04:35] <bean> Snort is not very easy to get working correctly.
[04:35] <bean> I've done it
[04:35] <bean> but not in quite some time
[04:35] <subcool> histo, no- but its on a lvm
[04:35] <Keyman009> I can want until I am in D.C. in June and ask Mike Poor.... but I was hoping to do this sooner than that.
[04:35] <histo> wayne__: put movie in drive... dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/storage/nameofmovie.iso
[04:35] <subcool> histo, during install i pointed it to it, maybe it doesnt recognize lvm yet? - i have no clue.
[04:35] <din> Keyman009, pm.
[04:36] <histo> subcool: Wasn't root on lvm also?
[04:36] <Keyman009> bean, again, I can get this software working.... I am not trying to get it to work. I am trying to understand why it doesn't work with the currelty installed libpcap the way it came from Ubuntu... thats all.
[04:36] <bean> Keyman009, that sounds like something you need to take up with the package maintainer
[04:36] <holstein> Keyman009: could be as simple as repackaging
[04:36] <mneptok> Keyman009: ask a Snort expert about libpcap version dependencies
[04:37] <Keyman009> mneptok, I am trying to find one :)
[04:37] <subcool> histo, yea-.. im trying to chroot into it now- but i forget how to do it..
[04:37] <subcool> my LVM is /dev/MyVG/Precise - thats root.
[04:37] <Dawn> I am a bonehead.  I just repartitioned with gparted and made a new partition.  Now I can't get to it.  I forgot how to change permissions in terminal so I can get to /dev/cdb without having to be root.  Help!!
[04:37] <mneptok> Keyman009: compiling from source is not something this channel encourages, especially when a packaged version exists
[04:37] <bean> um, /join #snort
[04:37] <bean> ?
[04:37] <subcool> histo my LVM is /dev/MyVG/Precise - thats root.
[04:37] <subcool> histo, so im trying mount ^^folder to /mnt ???
[04:37] <Keyman009> mneptok understable point of view
[04:38] <luck> hi
[04:38] <histo> subcool: you have to mount /dev/MyVG/Precise /mnt   then chroot /mnt  and have a look at your /etc/fstab
[04:38] <luck> i got this problem my friends
[04:38] <luck> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[04:38] <luck> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[04:38] <luck> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[04:38] <luck> what is that suppose to mean?
[04:38] <histo> luck: is the mysql server running and is it set to listen on localhost?
[04:39] <somsip> histo: now by default the bind-address is 127.0.0.1 (loclahost, I know)
[04:39] <luck> histo:  i have no idea
[04:39] <histo> luck: sudo status mysqld
[04:39] <luck> i am just doing an example from book" linux for dummy"
[04:39] <luck> oh ok
[04:39] <FATMedia> anyone have any idea why random files would be getting created in the root directory of an ubuntu server?
[04:39] <subcool> histo, i just tried that- it said mount: special device -directory- does not exist
[04:40] <FATMedia> or how to trace down why they're being created?
[04:40] <bean> FATMedia, like what
[04:40] <luck> histo:  status: Unknown job: mysqld
[04:40] <FATMedia> they have random names like ?/n;6Z???y???
[04:40] <Nanaharu> Hello, I'm trying to install NVIDIA drivers on 12.10 and it seems to be a lot more difficult than previous versions... I found a guid and I "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" but if I try and do any steps after that... the commands just don't work and ubuntu still doesn't recognize my card
[04:40] <histo> subcool: lsblk and make sure it's /dev/MyVG/Precise
[04:40] <t0rch> what is ubuntu 12.04 torrent link?
[04:40] <histo> luck: sudo status mysql
[04:40] <luck> histo:  i did type
[04:40] <histo> t0rch: it's a link to download via torrent
[04:41] <holstein> t0rch: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ lists them
[04:41] <luck> histo: it reply Unknown job: mysqld
[04:41] <histo> luck: yeah I told you mysqld try mysql
[04:41] <subcool> histo, ah- thats the command i was looking for before
[04:41] <histo> luck: or use <tab> to autocomplete the name of the init job
[04:41] <subcool> histo, no- that doesnt give mem uch other than.. my sda's
[04:41] <luck> histo: same result Unknown job: mysql
[04:42] <histo> luck: sudo /etc/init.d/mys<tab> status
[04:42] <histo> luck: <tab> means hit the tab key
[04:42] <Nanaharu> Can anyone help me install NVIDIA drivers for ubuntu 12.10. I'm very new to terminal commands and the guids online are not helping very much.
[04:43] <histo> literally press the tab key
[04:43] <mneptok> luck: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[04:43] <luck> histo: nothing come up
[04:43] <holstein> !nvidia | Nanaharu
[04:43] <histo> Nanaharu: which nvidia card?
[04:43] <histo> luck: did you install mysql server
[04:43] <FATMedia> bean: any clue? they're all owned by root, i can delete them but new ones are generated eventually
[04:43] <Nanaharu> histo : NVIDIA GTX 680
[04:44] <bean> FATMedia, can't say, i dont know why that'd happen
[04:44] <luck> i think i did histo
[04:44] <luck> histo:
[04:44] <histo> Nanaharu: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:44] <histo> luck: How?
[04:44] <luck> histo:  i typed sudo apt-get install mysqladmin
[04:44] <FATMedia> bean: its kind of disconcerning lol i haven't noticed any other problems aside from the files showing up...
[04:44] <dr_willis> the 680 seems to be a somewhat problematic card. i seem to see a lot of people mention 680 in here lately.
[04:45] <Nanaharu> histo : I did this. How do I get ubuntu to recognize my card? the sudo /sbin/lsmod grep nvidia command doesn't work or do anything
[04:45] <bean> FATMedia, if it was a file from a package, we'd be able to tell
[04:45] <mneptok> luck: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[04:45] <histo> !info mysqladmin
[04:45] <Dawn> I am a bonehead.  I just repartitioned with gparted and made a new partition.  Now I can't get to it.  I forgot how to change permissions in terminal so I can get to /dev/cdb without having to be root.  Help!!
[04:45] <histo> luck: What command were you trying when you received the error above?
[04:45] <luck> mneptok: histo i am doing now
[04:46] <FATMedia> bean: is there any way to figure out how they were created? the file names are insane, like one is `???p???`???p???`???pα?`????
[04:46] <histo> luck: yes you kind of need mysql-server to administer it....
[04:46] <luck> histo: sorry, i installed mysql-server-5.5
[04:46] <dr_willis> Dawn:  mount it. then use chown/chmod as needed on the mountpoint
[04:46] <luck> histo: just that one
[04:46] <mneptok> luck: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[04:46] <luck> mneptok: i am downloding now
[04:46] <dr_willis> hmm. i  always  use  sudo  service servicename start
[04:46]  * Dawn huggs dr_willis 
[04:47] <histo> Nanaharu: So does X fail to start?
[04:47] <mneptok> luck: downloading what?
[04:47] <luck> mneptok: the one you show me mysql-server
[04:47] <mneptok> luck: but you installed mysql-server-5.5
[04:47] <histo> luck: what were you trying when you received the error that brought you here in the first place?
[04:47] <Nanaharu> histo : the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current seems to work flawlessly, but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it at all...
[04:47] <mneptok> luck: now you're installing another package. you're going to have conflicts.
[04:48] <histo> Nanaharu: can you lscpi -k | pastebinit
[04:48] <luck> mneptok: that was before you told me
[04:48] <mneptok> luck: mysql-server is a metapackage for whatever the current version is.
[04:48] <histo> Nanaharu: sorry typo lspci -k | pastebinit
[04:48] <luck> histo: oh i am builting data base for a books which is an example from a book
[04:48] <TaMpeReN> anyone can tell me how to get connetfiy  on  ubuntu
[04:48] <luck> mneptok: i am done with downloading what to do next?
[04:49] <mneptok> luck: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server-5.5
[04:49] <dr_willis> TaMpeReN:  and whats connetfiy?
[04:49] <luck> mneptok: i got this error message
[04:49] <luck> mysqladmin: CREATE DATABASE failed; error: 'Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'books''
[04:50] <histo> ohboy
[04:50] <histo> luck: Did you create a mysql root password when installing mysql-server ?
[04:50] <luck> when i type mysqladmin create books
[04:50] <mneptok> luck: you need to login to the MySQL console as the MySQL root user
[04:50] <luck> histo: i did
[04:50] <TaMpeReN> dr_willis: it makes a hotspot , let me share internet to other devices
[04:50] <luck> mneptok: how??
[04:51] <dr_willis> TaMpeReN:  and thisis a linux app? a windows app? or what exactly?
[04:51] <luck> my books does not tell me about it
[04:51] <mneptok> luck: mysql -u root -p
[04:51] <histo> luck: aparently your book didn't tell you to install mysql-server either
[04:51] <dr_willis> TaMpeReN:  keep it in the channel.
[04:51] <dr_willis> !ics > TaMpeReN
[04:52] <mneptok> luck: you are also now asking for generic MySQL help, which is probably better suited to the #mysql channel.
[04:52] <luck> histo: yes
[04:52] <subcool> histo im here now
[04:53] <histo> subcool: any luck getting / mounted?
[04:53] <subcool> histo im on the laptop... - no... lsblk gave me nothing
[04:53] <luck> mneptok: got error ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:53] <Nanaharu> histo : I sent the pastebinit to a private msg
[04:53] <luck> mneptok:  no my friend it is just an example from "linux all in one desk Reference for Dummies 2006"
[04:54] <histo> subcool: what? Are you on a livecd on the broken machine?  Also I though you were just going to reinstall?
[04:54] <dr_willis> luck a 6 yr old tutorial -- may  have issues. ;)
[04:54] <luck> dr_willis: you are so right
[04:54] <mneptok> luck: your questions now are about usage of MySQL, not Ubuntu.
[04:54] <luck> mneptok:  Oops sorry
[04:54] <histo> Nanaharu: did you reboot after installing nvidia-current
[04:54] <subcool> histo: i did reinstall- im on a livusb, but its giving me issues, it wont install like anything, i cant install xchat, extras' or pastebinit
[04:54] <mneptok> luck: it's better to ask in a dedicated MySQL channel or forum
[04:54] <luck> mneptok: tell me where to go
[04:55]  * mneptok twitches ...
[04:55] <Nanaharu> histo : no... ha ha lemme do that~
[04:55] <mneptok> luck: #mysql
[04:55] <luck> thanks mneptok
[04:55] <histo> Nanaharu: Are you able to get to a graphical environment right now or are you stuck in cli?
[04:56] <histo> subcool: what sort of errors do youg et when you try and install something?
[04:57] <Nanaharu> histo : after the reboot my system seems to be kind of funky and not load. I don't get the docks or the taskbar at the top and it's not using my full screen
[04:57] <histo> luck: Keep in mind a lot has changed since 2006
[04:57] <luck> histo: okie
[04:57] <subcool> histo: Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package pastebinit
[04:57] <luck> i got another question my friends
[04:57] <histo> Nanaharu: ahh well it's still using the nouveau driver. You can try using the jocket-text tool to install additional drivers
[04:57] <histo> Nanaharu: I would purge nvidia-current first
[04:58] <dr_willis> TaMpeReN:  keep it in the channel...  i may have to leave at any time.
[04:58] <histo> Nanaharu: then try jocket-text see which driver it wants to install for your card.
[04:58] <luck> mneptok: I heard that I can connect to other linux computer under same wifi or other place
[04:58] <Nanaharu> How do I get to the terminal? And I've read that in 12.10 using Jockey will mess up the system?
[04:58] <luck> is that true?
[04:58] <histo> subcool: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:58] <histo> luck: what ssh?
[04:59] <dr_willis> Nanaharu: 12.10 dosent really have jocky any more. its been redone.. and it worked fine for me.
[04:59] <histo> dr_willis: jocket-text is stil lthere
[04:59] <subcool> http://paste.kde.org/690032 histo
[04:59] <histo> Nanaharu: ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 are tty's F7 is back to GUI
[04:59] <subcool> histo: its really screwy
[04:59] <luck> histo: o got cha
[04:59] <histo> subcool: sudo apt-get update
[04:59] <histo> subcool: then try and install
[05:00] <subcool> histo: done that-
[05:00] <subcool> i used unetboot to instlal this liveusb.. :/
[05:00] <histo> subcool: Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <histo> subcool: Wait I'm confused now. Which can you not install packages on? The USB or your computer?
[05:01] <subcool> histo: usb
[05:01] <Nanaharu> histo : when I press ctrl alt f1 my screen goes black and I can't type?
[05:01] <histo> Nanaharu: YOu should have a login prompt on the upper left of the screen?
[05:02] <Nanaharu> There is no prompt. Just a flashing underscore.
[05:02] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. I have booted in to a two x screen setup and x starts alright but no desktop or panel loads... When i try to start with compiz --replace or lxpanel it says that: Cannot find display..? what would be sensible to do now?
[05:02] <histo> subcool: So you are booting to a USB which has ubuntu installed to it? And you want to install packages right?
[05:02] <histo> Nanaharu: try F2
[05:02] <subcool> histo: correct
[05:02] <subcool> histo: but- just so i can fix the laptop
[05:02] <histo> Nanaharu: if not ctrl+alt+t in GUI will open terminal
[05:03] <TaMpeReN> how to do !tab on pidgin?
[05:03] <histo> subcool: What version of ubuntu did you install to the usb?
[05:03] <Nanaharu> histo : now what's the command to purge nvidia current?
[05:03] <TaMpeReN> !tab test
[05:03] <histo> Nanaharu: sudo apt-get purge nivdia-current
[05:03] <dr_willis> TaMpeReN: ! commands are bot triggers. hit the tab key to autocomplete nicks in most clients
[05:03] <histo> TaMpeReN: ctrl+shift+t maybe? ask in #pidgin
[05:04] <subcool> histo: 12.04.1
[05:04] <ALeon_> Hello.
[05:04] <histo> !info pastebinit precise
[05:04] <histo> subcool: you need the universe repo enabled in sources.list
[05:04] <TaMpeReN> k i go #pidgin  ty
[05:04] <Nanaharu> histo : do I need to reboot after purging? and then how do I use the jocket method? is there a guid or is it a simple line of code ^.^?
[05:04] <histo> subcool: IS this a modern laptop?
[05:05] <subcool> histo: yes
[05:05] <mneptok> Nanaharu: do you *require* 3D?
[05:05] <subcool> histo: ok- ill open up software manager
[05:05] <histo> Nanaharu: no need to reboot. in the terminal type jockey-text     The GUI way in 12.10 is to go to system settings > software sources > hardware tab
[05:05] <histo> subcool: Does it use EFI?
[05:06] <subcool> histo: honestly- i dont know what that is
[05:06] <histo> subcool: Alright well lets fix one problem at a time. What is wrong with the laptop right now?
[05:06] <Nanaharu> mneptok : I plan on using 3D rendering software, do you mean that? or do you mean like 3D cinema type 3D?
[05:07] <subcool> histo: yae, that did it
[05:07] <mneptok> Nanaharu: i mean, "why not use the nouveau driver instead of the proprietary nVidia driver?"
[05:07] <histo> mneptok: performance in the nouveau driver is subpar for most peoople.
[05:08] <mneptok> histo: it seems on Nanaharu's machine, the proprietary driver is far more sub-par. ;)
[05:08] <Nanaharu> histo : so I just apt-get the jockey-common? and this works in 12.10 now?
[05:08] <histo> mneptok: true
[05:09] <histo> Nanaharu: No I told you... You can use jockey-text or "GUI" way go to System Settings > Software Sources > Hardware Tab
[05:09] <subcool> histo: during boot, it see the ubuntu gear, then it drops out to busybox.
[05:10] <histo> Nanaharu: system settings can be called via gnome-control-center
[05:10] <histo> subcool: any errors?
[05:10] <mneptok> subcool: can you test the USB stick on another machine?
[05:10] <Nanaharu> histo : I can't use the gui because after I rebooted, I only get a small screen with no dock or taskbar... so it seems like I'm stuck with terminal.
[05:11] <subcool> mneptok: sure- but ill lose my install, its appears not to be perisitant
[05:11] <subcool> histo: not that i can see- i can pastbein dmesg ?
[05:11] <luck> histo: I don't know what to read for SSH ; please give me some advise
[05:12] <mneptok> subcool: if you can't boot, what does persistence matter?
[05:13] <histo> subcool: paste the /var/log/syslog from the laptop's /
[05:13] <Nanaharu> histo : so I was able to make it to the software sources. I went to additional drivers but it says that no proprietary drivers are in use.
[05:13] <subcool> histo: haha- uh... i still have to mount the root
[05:13] <histo> subcool: and /var/log/boot.log maybe of some use.
[05:14] <coolroot> i can't access my usb stick it says it has to be root to access how can i do that?
[05:14] <histo> subcool: yeah running dmesg on the usb will just output the syslog of the usb instance
[05:14] <histo> !sudo | coolroot
[05:14] <subcool> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595121/
[05:14] <mneptok> subcool: test the stick on another machine. you've already lost any customizations when you rebooted/shut down.
[05:14] <histo> Nanaharu: right none are in use now. You want to activate one.
[05:15] <subcool> mneptok: at that rate- ill just make a new livusb with persistant
[05:15] <histo> subcool: is that from the USB?
[05:15] <Nanaharu> histo : how do I activate one? there are no options.
[05:15] <subcool> histo: mneptok ill do that now anyways
[05:15] <subcool> histo: i suppose..
[05:15] <subcool> histo: i havent mounted the laptops root yet
[05:15] <histo> subcool: You are confusing the hell out of me right now. Pick one install that you want to fix. Either the one installed on the laptop drive or the usb.
[05:16] <subcool> histo: laptop- thats what i care about
[05:16] <histo> subcool: Yeah that log is completely useless then for fixing the "laptop"
[05:16] <histo> subcool: you need to mount the laptop's root partition.
[05:16] <subcool> histo: i posted what ihad access too
[05:16] <subcool> histo: ya- it errored . remember? ill do it again and show you
[05:16] <histo> subcool: paste output of lsblk   if that doesn't work paste out put of sudo fdisk -l
[05:16] <histo> Nanaharu: does it list any drivers? You click one and click enable
[05:17] <Nanaharu> histo : there are no drivers listed.
[05:17] <subcool> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595129/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595130/
[05:18] <luck> 3
[05:18] <luck> 33
[05:18] <histo> subcool: Did you reinstall to the hard drive or just the usb since we last talked?
[05:19] <luck> 33333333333333333333333333+3++++++333333333333333333333333333+3+333333333
[05:19] <luck> 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
[05:19] <luck> 33
[05:19] <luck> sorry
[05:19] <FloodBot1> luck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <luck> kids
[05:19] <subcool> histo: harddrive
[05:19] <histo> Nanaharu: do you have one of those hybrid graphics cards?
[05:20] <subcool> histo: and i reformated my usb, which im about to do again -
[05:20] <histo> subcool: did you use lvm again this time?
[05:20] <Nanaharu> histo : so I got jockey, I should be able to just activate all the drivers now? I have a NVIDIA GTX 680 FTW I don't think it's a hybrid
[05:20] <subcool> histo: because if i have to reboot, i lose everything.
[05:20] <TaMpeReN> anyone can tell me how i can make my laptop into a wifi hotspot
[05:20] <subcool> histo: yea.. had to- my home directory is on lvm
[05:20] <TaMpeReN> i followed the steps but ther intenet is not being shared
[05:21] <histo> subcool: you don't have to use lvm. but anyways  sudo apt-get install lvm2 && modprobe dm-mod
[05:21] <histo> TaMpeReN: which steps?
[05:21] <luck> exit
[05:22] <qwertyomen> TaMpeReN: gotta bridge the ethernet port and wireless
[05:23] <TaMpeReN> histo: http://23ars.blogspot.ro/2013/03/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu-12041210.html
[05:23] <histo> Nanaharu: I'm affraid you may have to use the drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us  here are some directions http://askubuntu.com/questions/247448/nvidia-gtx-680-drivers
[05:23] <subcool> histo: update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media
[05:23] <histo> !ics | TaMpeReN
[05:23] <histo> subcool: How are you creating these usb installs btw?
[05:24] <TaMpeReN> histo:  i did this too http://23ars.blogspot.ro/2013/03/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu-12041210.html
[05:24] <TaMpeReN> histo:  i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[05:24] <TaMpeReN> histo:  it set up the connection but the internet is not behind shared
[05:24] <histo> TaMpeReN: did you make sure that the forwarding is set to on?
[05:25] <histo> TaMpeReN: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" this step is very important
[05:25] <TaMpeReN> histo:  GUI Method via Network Manager (Ubuntu 12.04) i  followed this only
[05:25] <subcool> histo: this last one was wtih unetboot
[05:25] <subcool> histo: i had used yumi - but it crapped out
[05:25] <subcool> histo: for simplicity, im going to create a new one- ill brb..
[05:25] <histo> subcool: Okay when you areinstalling why are you creating all these jacked up partitions? rather than just letting the installer partition your drive?
[05:26] <histo> subcool: The thumb drive is not the issue
[05:26] <Nanaharu> How do you run a program under roots permission?
[05:26] <histo> Nanaharu: sudo programname
[05:26] <subcool> histo: because it has my home directoy on it- and its too large to move
[05:26] <Nanaharu> histo : oh okay lol that was easy~ Thanks
[05:26] <histo> subcool: Do you have a bunch of files saved there?
[05:26] <subcool> histo: your right- but when i reboot to chcek if it is ok- ill lose all of what i just installed to check on the drive..
[05:26] <subcool> histo: YES
[05:26] <subcool> histo: its a couple years old at this point- its rather imporrant
[05:27] <histo> subcool: Okay so then why do you have 4 partitions in addition to your /home
[05:27] <subcool> subcool: i use to have a 500gb backup- but my x' stole it- so im working with what i got
[05:27] <subcool> histo: i was working with TJ- and he crated a root, var, tmp - then home
[05:27] <subcool> histo: i had the history, but that usb crapped out.
[05:28] <histo> subcool: and this is just a desktop machine? Your not using the laptop as a server right.
[05:28] <subcool> histo: this is a mobile laptop, i use it for a lot of things..
[05:28] <subcool> histo: my desktop server is- hurting....
[05:28] <histo> subcool: perhaps someone more familiar with LVM can help. I dont' know why "TJ" had you create all those seperate partitions on a desktop install.
[05:29] <subcool> histo: ive been looking for help with lvm.. but no one is about- and if i recall TJ was always in this group-
[05:29] <histo> subcool: I suspect the issue is from / not getting mounted properly on boot
[05:29] <subcool> histo: my laptop when working has a full list of irc i work with-
[05:29] <subcool> histo: well, it boots fine-
[05:29] <histo> What boots fine?
[05:29] <subcool> the laptop-
[05:30] <histo> Then wth
[05:30] <histo> So what is the issue then?
[05:30] <subcool> but when it get to .. login- it bails to busybox
[05:30] <RiXtEr> subcool, so your X isn't stating?
[05:30] <RiXtEr> *starting
[05:30] <histo> subcool: So then it isn't booting fine.
[05:30] <subcool> RiXtEr: basically? hard to say..
[05:31] <subcool> histo: well after attacking the grub- i say it boots
[05:31] <RiXtEr> subcool, at a $ try startx
[05:31] <histo> subcool: I though you were able to click ont he partitions in nautilus on and mount the drives earlier rigth?
[05:31] <RiXtEr> he's gone.
[05:31] <subcool_> histo, i can mount them via a file manager, yes. But Chroot is getting me
[05:31] <geomyidae> wtf? dkms DEPENDS on apport?
[05:32] <Nanaharu> histo : I'm trying to sudo NVIDIA-linux-x86_64-310.32.run but it says it doesn't exist. I downloaded the installer but I'm lost now on how to run it and turn of my desktop like the instructions say.
[05:32] <geomyidae> Nanaharu: sudo ./NVIDIA...
[05:32] <subcool> i just moved ...
[05:32] <geomyidae> Nanaharu: also, you're better off installing those drivers through the repositrories.
[05:32] <histo> subcool_: okay well after they are mounted via file manager. you can opena  terminal type in mount   it will show you where they are mounted. Then you can sudo chroot /path/to/what/mount/said
[05:32] <subcool> histo, im fixing that usb..
[05:32] <histo> subcool: use <tab> for autocompletion
[05:32] <Nanaharu> geomyidea : ummm repositories?
[05:32] <histo> subcool: there is nothing wrong with that USB
[05:33] <histo> subcool: When did all these problems start by the way?
[05:33] <coyotee> hey
[05:33] <subcool> histo, sunday- i came home from a trip, and my networking went to hell. so after you helped me with that and a couple other peope. and nothign worked. i just reinstalled it
[05:33] <subcool> histo, now i have this issue.
[05:34] <subcool> histo, its been a week of linux trouble.
[05:34] <subcool> give me a couple - iim making a new lisb usn
[05:34] <subcool> liveusb
[05:34] <histo> subcool: When you reinstall it. How are you telling the partitioner about your partitions?
[05:35] <histo> subcool: That is the entire problem ^^^
[05:35] <subcool> i manually goto each parition click change and direct them to the partition.
[05:35] <histo> subcool: I would try just using / and /home  make sure you tell it not to format /home
[05:35] <subcool> histo, that shoulda have done it- it boots, but.. my guess is home. but imjust guess.
[05:36] <subcool> histo, right- thats what i;ve been doing about home.
[05:36] <histo> subcool: To ease in the troubleshooting. atleast. Then you can eliminate /var /tmp etc...
[05:36] <histo> subcool: /home should be the only one you tell it not to format
[05:36] <subcool> histo, give me like 10 mins.. ill brb....
[05:36] <histo> subcool: K
[05:36] <subcool> histo, thats what i've been doing.
[05:37] <histo> subcool: does it pick up that it's lvm or do you have the option to tell it that?
[05:38] <histo> subcool: the 12.10 installation cd has support for lvm built in
[05:38] <subcool> histo, ofcourse it would- um i boot into the liveusb, and install the lvm - then click install to HDD
[05:38] <histo> subcool: yeah but the install doesn't know it's being installed to an LVM drive
[05:39] <subcool> histo, it seems them.
[05:39] <subcool> histo, label and all
[05:39] <histo> subcool: you still would have to install lvm to the chroot prior to rebooting
[05:39] <Nanaharu> I'm still having a lot of trouble trying to run the install. geomyidae mentioned something about repositories? can I install my gtx 680 ftw from a repository?
[05:39] <subcool> histo, hold on- brb
[05:39] <histo> subcool: Are you able to run 12.10?
[05:40] <histo> subcool: would be much easier for you.
[05:40] <ashwin> How can i change my home folder to a hard disk drive?
[05:40] <subcool> histo, i could dl it- :/ but i want to be on LTS-
[05:40] <subcool> for giggles- ill do it now
[05:40] <subcool> hold on
[05:40] <dr_willis> ashwin: copy your home to the hd. edit fstab to mount it to /home
[05:40] <subcool> ill be back in like 15. i have to dl it
[05:41] <dr_willis> !movehome
[05:41] <histo> !seperatehome | ashwin
[05:41] <histo> !separatehome | ashwin
[05:43] <rgap> hi
[05:43] <rgap> help
[05:44] <Onixs> how to modify a read-only ISO without extracting and keep its bootability
[05:44] <histo> !ask | rgap
[05:44] <histo> Onixs: you can't.
[05:44] <histo> Onixs: you have to mount it to edit it. And then put it back in iso form.
[05:45] <dr_willis> dident kiso at one time sort of automate that process?
[05:45] <rgap> i have ubuntu 12.04 32 bit and need to hibernate
[05:46] <Onixs> ok. cant edit after mounting since its a read*only
[05:46] <rgap> sudo pm-hibernate    doesnt work
[05:46] <rgap> histo: ping
[05:46] <dr_willis> !info kiso
[05:46] <histo> Onixs: copy the files from it
[05:47] <histo> Onixs: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52598
[05:47] <rgap> ping?
[05:47] <Onixs> reading..   thanks histo
[05:48] <histo> Onixs: isomaster is aparently another tool
[05:49] <Nanaharu> I don't understand why my sudo command to run my .run file won't work? I've tried it with the full sudo ./home/username/desktop/filename.run but it says the directory doesn't exist
[05:49] <Onixs> even the ISO is read-only?
[05:49] <histo> Nanaharu: sudo sh /path/to/filename.run
[05:49] <jeem>  /msg nickserv identify digit
[05:49] <jeem> nice
[05:49] <jeem> fuck
[05:49] <Onixs> Lolz
[05:49] <histo> Onixs: Which iso are you trying to edit
[05:49] <histo> lol that should be on bash.org
[05:50] <dr_willis> they extract the files and rebuild the iso i imagine Onixs
[05:50] <Nanaharu> histo : i tried the sh, it says that it can't open T.T I don't understand why it's so hard to install this driver
[05:51] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  chmod +x the. run first? be sure yiur cASe of words is right...
[05:51] <jeem> anyway, i am trying to setup a vpn, i am in bt5r3 , i don't know if i can get support for that here?
[05:51] <dr_willis> and its NOT sudo ./home/whatever   it would be sudo /home/whatever
[05:52] <dr_willis> jeem:  bt has its own support channels
[05:52] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : would the code just be chmod +x path/to/filename.run?
[05:52] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  the first use of / and . and so forth are VERY imporntant
[05:53] <dr_willis>   path/to/file would be under your current directory..  /peth/to/file is a Full absoute path
[05:53] <dr_willis>      /home/yourusername/Download/wwhatever.run
[05:53] <rgap> histo: i have ubuntu 12.04 32 bit and need to hibernate please
[05:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Onixs: there is a remastering guide on the wiki
[05:54] <rgap> histo: sudo pm-hibernate    doesnt work
[05:54] <Onixs> histo some home made for NAS
[05:54] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : so this is my full command; chmod +x /home/username/desktop/filename.run.
[05:54] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : the +x doesn't stand for anything does it?
[05:54] <histo> Nanaharu: What is the command you are typing in?
[05:54] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  CASE of the letters is also critical.. Linux IS case senesetive
[05:55] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  +x is Critical also.. thats what you  are telling the mode to change to..  making it eXecutable
[05:55] <rgap> ..
[05:55] <dr_willis> so yes +x stands for somthing. ;) the executable bit/flag
[05:55] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : I downloaded the nvidia driver since it seems to be the only way to use my graphics card. so I'm trying to run the installer under root permission.
[05:56] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  if they are in your /home/Username/Downloads directory you can do.....
[05:56] <dr_willis> cd ~/Downloads
[05:56] <histo> Onixs: Here's an easy way if you don't want to do it the normal way http://askubuntu.com/questions/46646/how-to-edit-iso-images-including-bootable-isos#46647
[05:56] <dr_willis> ls   (to see the files, you  should see that whatever.run)
[05:56] <dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.run
[05:56] <dr_willis> sudo ./whatever.run
[05:57] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  you  most likely  will need to not  be in the X desktop/GUI to install the .run file..  'sudo service lightdm stop' will close out X. and get you  to  the  consoel. where you  need to login, and do the commands
[05:57] <dr_willis>  the .run drivers are not guarentted to work.
[05:58] <histo> Nanaharu: you can use the tab key to autocomplete names int eh terminal also like chmod +x Nvidia<tab>
[05:58] <dr_willis> i thought the xswat ppa had newer nvidia drivers also. but  i  never use  that ppa
[05:58] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : the guide I was trying to follow said I shout turn of my desktop
[05:58] <histo> Nanaharu: everything is case sensitive
[05:58] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  thats what 'sudo service lightdm stop' does.. closes X totally
[05:58] <dr_willis> instsall drivers.. then reboot via 'sudo reboot'
[05:58] <dr_willis> and hope  it works
[05:59] <histo> dr_willis: atleast you can sudo ./Nvidia_garbage.run --uninstall
[05:59] <evilytwisted> Hi all.. do any of you know how to install zentyal 3.0.1 from a usb thumbdisk and getting past the "I cant find the cd rom grrr...  blah blah blah.. "  and hi dr_willis  :D
[05:59] <histo> !offline | evilytwisted
[05:59] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  make sure the cd is not in your sources listing.
[06:00] <evilytwisted> how do i do that?
[06:00] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  what do you mean by install from a usb thimbdisk also? you  got the .deb on a flash drive? and no networking?
[06:00] <Nanaharu> dr_willis : okay now that it closed my x desktop how do I type commands here? the same way as the terminal?
[06:00] <histo> zentyal with no networking seems completely pointles
[06:00] <histo> Nanaharu: yeap
[06:00] <evilytwisted> no... i used unetbootin to "burn" an iso to a thumbdisk
[06:00] <dr_willis> Nanaharu:  yes.. it IS a terminal
[06:00] <histo> !zentyal | evilytwisted
[06:01] <evilytwisted> Yeah im aware of that..
[06:01] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  so  how does  that relate to installing zentyal?  you are installing it on a live-usb setup?
[06:01] <histo> evilytwisted: okay then you edit your software sources enable whatever repo zentyal is in and sudo apt-get install zentyal
[06:01] <evilytwisted> live usb setup Im not for sure.. i just dl the file from the websiute
[06:01] <evilytwisted> mount it..
[06:01] <histo> !info zentyal
[06:02] <evilytwisted> IM not running zentyal from ubuntu.. or anything
[06:02] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  you are confuseing things...   dl'd what file?
[06:02] <histo> !info ebox
[06:02] <evilytwisted> Its a stand alone package
[06:02] <histo> evilytwisted: then dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:02] <histo> evilytwisted: or double click on the deb
[06:02] <evilytwisted> http://www.zentyal.org/
[06:02] <evilytwisted> its not a deb file..
[06:02] <dr_willis> what exacctly did you  download...
[06:02] <evilytwisted> http://www.zentyal.org/downloads/
[06:02] <evilytwisted> its a iso file
[06:03] <evilytwisted> WHich i used unetbootin or something like that.. to burn it to a usb thumbdrive..
[06:03] <histo> evilytwisted: read this page please http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Documentation/Community/Installation/InstallationGuide
[06:03] <histo> evilytwisted: it tells you how to add the zentyal repo and install it
[06:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: what exactly is zentyal?
[06:04] <evilytwisted> histo IM not asking to install repos.. Nor packages.. Im using a spare box .. thats completly empty
[06:04] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: web based admin of a machine.
[06:04] <evilytwisted> has no os.. No nothing on it atm
[06:04] <dr_willis> theres no need to use the iso.. use the packages..
[06:04] <dr_willis> you  dont need to install it 'from scratch'
[06:04] <histo> evilytwisted: Okay well you can't install zentyal to potato
[06:05] <evilytwisted> then whats with the iso image
[06:05] <evilytwisted> it said i can put it on a usb drive..
[06:05] <dr_willis> its for 'from scratch' installs...
[06:05] <evilytwisted> or cd
[06:05] <dr_willis> so i imagine its source code
[06:05] <dr_willis> look at whats in the iso file and see.. if  you want
[06:06] <histo> dr_willis: yeah there is a bootable iso on their page
[06:06] <dr_willis> their use of the term 'from scratch' is very vague. ;)
[06:06] <evilytwisted> what im asking, Is i got it booted from an iso image on a thumbdisk
[06:06] <histo> evilytwisted: use unetbootin to create a thumb drive
[06:06] <evilytwisted> again Histo if you would please read... i already said that
[06:06] <histo> evilytwisted: How is that a question.
[06:06] <evilytwisted> plenty of times..
[06:07] <evilytwisted> its persistant to find a cd rom drive...
[06:07] <evilytwisted> I have it using a thumbdisk..
[06:07] <evilytwisted> How do i get it to understant IM not using a cd rom drive. BUt instead a thumbdisk
[06:07] <Apoptosis> Hey.  I have Ubuntu 12.04 and a broken windows 7.  I want to reinstall Win7.  Can I the reformat the  Win7 partition via disk utility and reinstall?  Will there be any conflicts with my ubuntu?
[06:07] <histo> evilytwisted: Because it has cdrom entries in /etc/apt/sources.list you really should be asking in some zentyal support as this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:07] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  so you have ubuntu allready installed? or no os at all?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Apoptosis, best to use win7 tools for win7 OS
[06:08] <histo> dr_willis: He's using zentyal's distro
[06:08] <evilytwisted> i have nothing on the box that i want to install zentyal on
[06:08] <histo> evilytwisted: you need to comment out the cdrom entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  that usb will basically install 'zentyals' own os then.. not ubuntu from what im seeing.. not  ubuntu
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Apoptosis, upon reinstalling win7, you'll write over grub and ubuntu will be gone.  reinstall grub to get it back
[06:08] <histo> !derivatives | evilytwisted
[06:08] <evilytwisted> Its not a derivative.. what i heard its prety much a ubuntu 12.0.4 server
[06:09] <evilytwisted> but ty histo
[06:09] <dr_willis> if you  want 12.04 server.. then install 12.04 server. and use the zenytal packages in the repos/ppa
[06:09] <Apoptosis> cfhowlett: are you familiar with any win7 reinstall tools in particular
[06:09] <histo> evilytwisted: Okay then edit your sources.list
[06:10] <cfhowlett> Apoptosis, you have the win7 cdrom/usb, right?  all tools are there
[06:10] <histo> Apoptosis: did you install win7 after ubuntu?
[06:10] <Apoptosis> cfhowlett: yes I was going to use that after wiping the partition
[06:10] <Apoptosis> histo: my bunk win7 was on there first
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Apoptosis, or use win7 to format the partition.  either way works
[06:11] <histo> Apoptosis: just keep in mind you have to reinstall grub after installing winblows
[06:12] <Apoptosis> histo: what's the best way to do that if I can't get into ubuntu?  Not sure what to expect
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Apoptosis: live cd ubuntu plus boot repair
[06:12] <lb27> I found out I could just use my efi thing to choose where to boot, I can live with that.
[06:13] <evilytwisted> and see dr_willis  the thing im trying to install is ubuntu.. efine DISKNAME  Ubuntu-Server 12.04.1 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Release i386
[06:14] <evilytwisted> for whatever reason though it goes by a diffrent name..
[06:14] <cfhowlett> evilytwisted, fwiw, present point release is 12.04.2
[06:14] <evilytwisted> fwiw?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> for what it's worth
[06:15] <evilytwisted> ok ty
[06:15] <cfhowlett> evilytwisted, you're install 32 bit not 64 bit server?
[06:15] <evilytwisted> the spare box is a really old dell pc from a middleschool comp lab
[06:15] <evilytwisted> pent 4 processer.. and such
[06:16] <evilytwisted> it can only hold 32 bit..
[06:16] <cfhowlett> evilytwisted, nice ...
[06:18] <wilsonb70> Su root
[06:18] <counting> Hi
[06:18] <evilytwisted> Ill scream at my dad to se if he can get this working....... hes the one who suggested this for streaming webcam on the web..
[06:19] <counting> Hi
[06:19] <SunStar> hi
[06:19] <counting> Hi sun
[06:19] <cfhowlett> counting sunstar greetings
[06:19] <counting> Word
[06:20] <counting> Any ladies in the house
[06:20] <kalenjohnson> ew
[06:20] <SunStar> counting, #ubuntu-offopic
[06:20] <histo> Why would he be using zentyal for streaming th
[06:20] <cfhowlett> counting, wrong channel.  WRONG
[06:20] <counting> Lol
[06:20] <counting> Need topics
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> counting: is one. ubuntu support channel
[06:21] <wilsonb70> Stable kernel
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !topic
[06:21] <counting> What's ubuntu
[06:22] <counting> Im in
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> counting: a linux based operating system. in other words you stumbled into a den of nerds, hackers, and programmres
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu|counting,
[06:22] <counting> Sweet
[06:22]  * ntzrmtthihu777 lols
[06:22] <counting> I have an iphone
[06:23] <counting> iOS
[06:23] <histo> good4u
[06:23] <kalenjohnson> close, counting, real close
[06:23] <sternocera> Hello. I'm used to having the ability to see history when I press page up within my terminal emulator. Ubuntu apparently lacks that ability, or at the very least does not have it enabled by default. Can someone suggest a remedy?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> counting, how nice.  nothing to do with ubuntu however.
[06:23] <histo> counting: /j ##hackers
[06:23] <counting> Im excited about ps4
[06:23] <SunStar> sternocera, the up arrow
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> sternocera: it has one, I use it all the time. what term are you using
[06:23] <cfhowlett> counting, also offtopic.  perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:24] <counting> I like cnet
[06:24] <kalenjohnson> cfhowlett, well, linux, unix... there's a slight connection ;)
[06:24] <histo> sternocera: shift+pgup
[06:24] <counting> Lol
[06:24] <sternocera> SunStar: Sorry, what I mean is completion of a partially finished command based on history
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> sternocera: pres tab
[06:24] <SunStar> thats not it either
[06:24] <counting> I've Hacked into email password ?
[06:24] <histo> counting: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic or /join ##hackers
[06:25] <sternocera> ntzrmtthihu777, No, that's tab completion.
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: is there anything good in ##hackers
[06:25] <counting> Closer?
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> sternocera: sorry, sounded like you what you wanted
[06:25] <SunStar> thats a cool feature. never heard of it befor
[06:25] <sternocera> I want to type the first 3 letters of a frequently executed command, press page up, and get the rest from the last time I executed said command.
[06:26] <histo> sternocera: ctrl+r  then type the first few letters
[06:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> SunStar: its frikken awesome. you can do it in irc for nicks too. try typing ntz and then tab
[06:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: you for real? that sounds like a nifty tool
[06:26] <histo> sternocera: hit ctrl+r if you want to go back further
[06:27] <histo> By go back further I mean previous instances
[06:27] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[06:27] <SunStar> not tab completion >_< history based completion
[06:27] <sternocera> histo, that works, but isn't what I'm used to. I wonder why.
[06:27] <histo> sternocera: probably used to a different shell
[06:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> SunStar: dangit, thats twice I made that mistake
[06:27] <histo> !shell | sternocera
[06:27] <sternocera> histo, nope, I'm used to bash on Fedora.
[06:28] <histo> sternocera: okay well then they have some other completion app installed to do that. I'm not familiar with one that wouldn't interfere with tabcompletion
[06:29] <jirido> Hi.
[06:29] <jacob_> Hi i need help
[06:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | jacob_
[06:30] <litropy> I'm trying to get hardware temperature info from CLI. lm-sensors can't find any modules to load, and nv-clock says, "Error: temperature monitoring isn't supported on your videocard." Ideas?
[06:30] <jacob_> Sorry, My question is how do i remove the skype wrapper repository and uninstall it?
[06:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: you added a ppa for skype?
[06:31] <jacob_> Yes
[06:31] <litropy> Any temp reading will do - HD, CPU, etc.
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> litropy: just try sensors
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: do you know the name of the ppa
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: and the package name
[06:32] <jacob_> Shouldn't it be Skype_wrapper_ppa? I am not sure what exactly it is
[06:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> its whatever you added, how did you add the ppa?
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: better yet, do you know how to use pastbin?
[06:33] <akamikeym> jacob_, if you've got synaptic installed just open it and check under repositories in settings
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> akamikeym: derp, yeah that
[06:34] <akamikeym> jacob_, but first open sources on the left hand side and select the skype repo and make sure to remove any installed packages
[06:34] <jacob_> Not sure never heard of the pastbin, I can install the synaptic
[06:34] <akamikeym> Assuming that's what yuo want to do
[06:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: pastebin is a website that lets you post documents for quick reference to others.
[06:35] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, pastbin is a nice feature to have sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:35] <jirido> ok. I tried to set nvida drivers to seperat x windows but then compiz, my windowmanager or ususal desktop enviroment did not work so i tried to logg in to openbox.. Then everything got so terible small.. so i erased the xorg.config but now when im back to normal all text still is so terible small. I managed to get it bigger in menu and tabbs but it is still so verry small in terminal and window manager that i think there must be some
[06:35] <jirido> over all setting someware.. is it so?
[06:35] <l057c0d3r> so then you can run something like oh sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[06:35] <l057c0d3r> and it will give you a url with the output that was given from that command so people like us on here can help you better
[06:35] <akamikeym> jacob_, sorry not sources on left hand side, *origin* on left hand side
[06:35] <jacob_> Oh yeah ok and i will get it now
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: you mean I can pastebin from the terminal? I'm hooked
[06:36] <l057c0d3r> wait.. ntzrmtthihu777 your kidding right.. i thought you new that
[06:36] <cfhowlett> !pastebin>cfhowlett
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: I'm just a 1 year user man
[06:36] <l057c0d3r> oh.. thought i seen you in here helping others yesterday
[06:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yeah, that was me :D but I am by no means an expert
[06:37] <geomyidae> Can y'all think of any reason that lxappearance would look different ( a few diff icons ) on two computers when I have the *same* icon theme chosen on each?
[06:37] <leptone> anyone know of a good article for installing sun jdk 6/7 on 12.04?
[06:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: yup, I know the exact one
[06:37] <cfhowlett> !java|leptone,
[06:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[06:39] <jacob_> Ok i am in synaptic and in origin
[06:39] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, great thx. does th is install6 as well?
[06:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, 6 7 or 8, as you please
[06:41] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, you ever try the netflix desktop ppa yet?
[06:41] <jacob_> Akamikeym I am not sure what i am to do next in here
[06:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: not a member of netflix, don't use it.
[06:41] <l057c0d3r> ah i see
[06:41] <l057c0d3r> was amazed with how well it actually works
[06:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: dey makin dis hard. do you remember how you installed the wrapper?
[06:41] <developemt> woooo
[06:41] <akamikeym> jacob_, once you've got synaptic installed and you've found your skype ppa under *origin* and removed the installed packages, you can go into Settings>Repositories and Other Software tab and untick the skype ppa to temporarily disable it or select it and select remove to completely remove it
[06:42] <l057c0d3r> and pithos..  ahh a free pandora desktop app with add free listening.. now thats what im talking about
[06:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: I usually prefer local media as my internet access comes and goes in spurts
[06:42] <l057c0d3r> akamikeym..  missed out on half his problem.. could ppa-purge help better maybe
[06:43] <l057c0d3r> undo everything that was added / upgraded by the ppa.. uncheck it auto ext...
[06:43] <jacob_> Yeah i do its sudo add-apt-repository ppa:skype-wrapper/ppa
[06:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: ok, do ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:44] <l057c0d3r> :-( i feel you all are doing it the hard way
 I guess so.
[06:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: ok, but do you remember how you installed it?
[06:44] <akamikeym> But he doesn't know it's name
[06:45] <akamikeym> He can just look at all the ppa's in synaptic till he sees the package for skype
[06:45] <l057c0d3r> yeah.. open synaptic.. go into settings - repositorys
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> and maybe uninstall skype itself by mistake?
[06:45] <l057c0d3r> look for the ppa.. find it.. write it down
[06:46] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[06:46] <l057c0d3r> sudo ppa-purge "ppa link"
[06:46] <jacob_> Yeah in the termanil they it was that sudo add-apt, then sudo apt-get update then it was sudo apt-get install skype-wrapper
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: sudo apt-get purge skype-wrapper
[06:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: akamikeym: dude is trying to get rid of something, seems excessive to add on in order to remove
[06:47] <jacob_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:47] <jacob_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? This is what came up
[06:47] <l057c0d3r> right.. but ppa purge is a great tool to have on hand
[06:47] <l057c0d3r> might come in handy in the future as well
[06:47] <geomyidae> Unless installing the skype wrapper broke things, there is no reason to purge the PPA.
[06:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: close synaptic, try again
[06:47] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, its because you have synaptic opens till
[06:47] <geomyidae> In fact, why bother removing it? Purging isn't even necessary
[06:48] <jacob_> Yeah i for got that was going ok thats done
[06:48] <akamikeym> geomyidae, good housekeeping?
[06:48] <dubbypca> my 12.04 recently chrashs in kernelpanic.  if someone could point out the problem by viewing the crahs screen, here are 2 pictures of my screen: http://carmohn.de/IMG-20130307-00551.jpg http://carmohn.de/IMG-20130307-00552.jpg
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: ok, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: then use sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/name_of_ppa here, based on what you see in ls
[06:50] <l057c0d3r> dubbypca, have you reciently upgraded to a newer version of the kernel
[06:50] <jacob_> OK i did that after i pressed enter it says  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[06:51] <dubbypca> l057c0d3r: i did
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[06:51] <l057c0d3r> and crashes started right after that right
[06:51] <l057c0d3r> i would try booting into an older kernel if you can and see if it works
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: should give him that option at the grub menu unless he removed the old kernals
[06:52] <jacob_> No such file or directory
[06:52] <l057c0d3r> depending on your system the new kernel may not be compatible with your system...
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: use tab-completion to get the right name
[06:53] <dubbypca> it crashs garuanteed when i play videos, render 3D (on cpu)
[06:53] <l057c0d3r> oh but it boots..
[06:53] <l057c0d3r> just crashes on videos 3d rendering ext
[06:53] <dubbypca> not only, but .... quicker
[06:53] <jacob_> What? tab-completion? i don't know what that is
[06:54] <dubbypca> chrashes are happening since i moved from 11 to 12
[06:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: when typing a command in terminal or a file name you can hit tab andit will fill out the rest for you depending on available options.
[06:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> so for example: sudo apt-g<tab> i<tab> will yield sudo apt-get install
[06:54] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, do you have a binary driver installed for your video card ?
[06:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: wrong person, lol
[06:55] <l057c0d3r> bah sorry
[06:55] <l057c0d3r> dubbypca,
[06:55] <l057c0d3r> its been a long day
[06:55] <jacob_> Through the additional driver?
[06:55] <l057c0d3r> sorry jacob_ was ment for dubbypca
[06:56] <jacob_> and its not working ntzrmtthihu777
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: wrong person, focus :P
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> sigh i need to focus mysel
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> f
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> exactly like that
[06:57] <l057c0d3r> bay sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-w*
[06:57] <l057c0d3r> bay sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-w*.*
[06:57] <jacob_> Lol ok and also I don't have any clue why i am having troubles, with this but yeah the tab-completion is not working
[06:58] <dr_willis> perhaps just look in the direcgtory to see what files are there,  ;)
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: I don't see why it would not, type sudo rm /e<tab> and see if it makes etc
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: we did, lol. he got /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[06:58] <dr_willis> cd to the dir, and move them to  /root/ ;)
[06:59] <l057c0d3r> well if its the only think in there then sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: true. jacob_ did it say anything else?
[06:59] <jacob_> Yes it made etc and no
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> I mean when you did ls
[06:59] <l057c0d3r> it made etc  tab completion is working :-)
[07:00] <jacob_> Plus when i go in to the dash it doesn't have the settings for skype wrapper anymore.
[07:00] <l057c0d3r> hi dr_willis
[07:00] <dubbypca> l057c0d3r: i tried nvidia driver, now its uninstalled to try legacy, but tha makes no difference to crashs
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: yeah because purge got rid of it, you just needa get rid of the unneeded ppa
[07:01] <jacob_> Oh yeah understandable.
[07:01] <l057c0d3r> dubbypca, do you have an older kernel installed you can boot into and see how it works..
[07:01] <l057c0d3r> also do you have linux-headers-generic installed
[07:02] <dubbypca> will make no difference, since problems also were with first kernels installed with 12.04
[07:02] <l057c0d3r> hmm... let me think
[07:02] <jacob_> yeah when i did the sudo rm this is what comes after rm: cannot remove `/etc/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list': No such file or directory
[07:02] <dubbypca> i must check headers, its not the machine im on now.
[07:03] <dr_willis> jacob_:  its /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: what dr_willis said
[07:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[07:03] <jacob_> Awww ok
[07:03] <dr_willis> cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:03] <dr_willis> then ''ls' to see whats there
[07:04] <kaustubh> I came across this question in UNIX google plus community "How to login using ssh with stored password in config file or as a parameter, since i dont want to use sshkeygen , expect, sshpass ?" Does anyone have clue?
[07:04] <Grimhound> Ugh. Tried installing webcam software, and now Xubuntu is showing a bluetooth icon in the panel
[07:04] <Grimhound> There has never been any bluetooth anything connected to this computer
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Grimhound, right click the icon, properties and change the icon image
[07:06] <Grimhound> cfhowlett, There is no such option
[07:06] <litropy> ntzrmtthihu777, running sensors:No sensors found!
[07:06] <l057c0d3r> grimhound not sure about xubuntu.. but check in the settings for startup applications and just uncheck the blueman .
[07:06] <jacob_> still saying the same thing
[07:06] <litropy> ntzrmtthihu777, sensors-detect, yes to all: No modules to load, skipping modules configuration.
[07:06] <Onixs> histo can you link me again with that "mkisofs"
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> litropy: do you even have internal sensors? not all machines have the same sensors or even have them at all
[07:07] <Onixs> was it you or dr_willis
[07:07] <jacob_> or it says bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list: No such file or directory
[07:07] <litropy> ntzrmtthihu777, it's a cheap, old computer. I guess not.
[07:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> litropy: there you go.
[07:07] <Grimhound> What is the command to restart the GUI in Xubuntu?
[07:07] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, type cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:07] <l057c0d3r> type ls
[07:07] <l057c0d3r> if nothing appears then its gone
[07:08] <l057c0d3r> if skype shows in there then from where you are
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Grimhound: startx, maybe?
[07:08] <litropy> ntzrmtthihu777, it's surprising, though. I guess the fan is just running a constant speed, huh? Is there a way to tell it to go faster?
[07:08] <l057c0d3r> make sure its the /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:08] <l057c0d3r> type rm *
[07:08] <l057c0d3r> well sudo rm *
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> litropy: depends on the hardware, and I have not a clue there.
[07:09] <l057c0d3r> litropy, its not uncommmon.. like this computer... its new..  and the only censor it has if for cpu temp
[07:09] <l057c0d3r> blah sensor
[07:09]  * [Saint] would expect any reasonable recent mobo to have CPU_TEMP
[07:09] <[Saint]> *reasonably
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: hell all I have is a pci temp
[07:10] <[Saint]> Most will have seperate CPU_TEMP and SYS_TEMP
[07:10] <litropy> sudo pwmconfig
[07:10] <litropy> lol I just used my IRC client as a terminal. Man. It really is late. lol.
[07:11] <jacob_> its says ls cannot access /etc/apt/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list.d/
[07:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> litropy: my irc client is a terminable
[07:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> *terminal
[07:11] <l057c0d3r> sigh....
[07:11] <[Saint]> heh, I set up aliases in quassel to tell me to go to bed or put my glasses on when I do that ;)
[07:11] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:11] <jacob_> I do not know if i typed it out wrong. Not sure.
[07:11] <litropy> ntzrmtthihu777, with you as an ubuntu power user, I'm not surprised.
[07:11] <Grimhound> Whoever said "startx" should be banned
[07:12] <Grimhound> I now have to do a hard reformat thanks to that
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Grimhound: that was me, and it starts the gui on my system.
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> ntzrmtthihu777, using irssi are u
[07:12] <litropy> Grimhound, seriously? what happened?
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: yes, we had this discussion the other day
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> reformat ??? no just a reset
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> and not a hard reset
[07:12] <l057c0d3r> try alf f3
[07:13] <histo> Grimhound: if xubuntu is using lightdm you can restart that service.    sudo restart lightdm
[07:13] <Grimhound> It locked me out of my main user name and reset everything to some factory default
[07:13] <l057c0d3r> to get into a different terminal screen
[07:13] <jacob_> what should come up?
[07:13] <l057c0d3r> login and do sudo reboot
[07:13] <histo> Grimhound: No it didn't
[07:13] <Grimhound> Yes it did
[07:13] <histo> Grimhound: exit X
[07:13] <l057c0d3r> err ctl alt f3
[07:13] <Grimhound> I restarted
[07:13] <Grimhound> I am locked out
[07:13] <Grimhound> Doesn't accept my password
[07:13] <[Saint]> Grimhound: wtf?!?
[07:13] <histo> Grimhound: well I can assure you startx didn't do that.
[07:13] <[Saint]> that's REALLY not expected behaviour.
[07:13] <Grimhound> StartX did do it
[07:13] <dr_willis> startx most likely did not do it...
[07:13] <litropy> Grimhound, it's possible you just need to switch to your other window manager.
[07:13] <Grimhound> StartX was the only thing I did
[07:13] <l057c0d3r> grimhound from a different tty screen it should have
[07:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> startx should not do all of dat, startx does exactly what it says.
[07:14] <[Saint]> It isn;t anyone's fault for suggesting it, that's abnormal.
[07:14] <jacob_> should this come upjacob-HP-2000-Notebook-PC:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$
[07:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: yeah, it means you are inside that folder
[07:14] <dr_willis> jacob_:  bash basics.. your prompt has changed to your current 'working directtory'
[07:14] <Grimhound> It blanked my computer and locked me out, regardless of what it should've done
[07:14] <histo> Grimhound: Why is it that you wanted to restart X int he first place?
[07:14] <l057c0d3r> yep.. now that you are where you need to be do ls
[07:15] <Grimhound> I wanted to restart XFCE
[07:15] <dr_willis> blancked and locked out.. are a little vague
[07:15] <histo> Grimhound: Why did you want to restart xfce?
[07:15] <Grimhound> I don't even know what X is
[07:15] <jacob_> ok thanks and ok there we now whats the next step?
[07:15] <dr_willis> !x
[07:15] <Grimhound> Because I wanted to enact a change without logging out
[07:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Grimhound: press ctrl+alt+f1 at your black screen
[07:15]  * [Saint] sometimes wonders why people don;t use an OS that suits them a little better
[07:15] <histo> lol
[07:15] <dr_willis> c64 geos! ;)
[07:15] <LikwidNarkotix> startx ?
[07:15] <histo> [Saint]: because the alternatives are horrible
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> hey now Saint...  we were all new at one point in time
[07:16] <histo> Grimhound: Why did you want to restart XFCE in the first place what was the problem? I think that is your answer as to why you are having issues.
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> and histo windows 7 was not that bad actually
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> they've made great imporvements
[07:16] <histo> l057c0d3r: then /j #windows
[07:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: blech, are you trolling? you must be trolling *chuckle*
[07:16] <histo> l057c0d3r: Yes the adware and viruses are wonderful
[07:17] <l057c0d3r> hey i didnt say that....
[07:17] <jacob_> Don't i use the sudo rm command now?
[07:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: yeah, on the right file.
[07:17] <l057c0d3r> as a system its not bad though.. its the fact that the common user has no idea how to keep them clean.... people like to just "oh look free smilies:
[07:17] <histo> l057c0d3r: It's insecure and offtopic
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> sorry
[07:18] <histo> s/insecure/unsecure/
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: the biggest risk to a system is between the keyboard and chair, not in the machine.
[07:18] <jacob_> This would be the correct file right? jacob-HP-2000-Notebook-PC:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[07:18]  * l057c0d3r hands histo a chill pill.... 
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> k back to what i was doing
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> yes jacob_
[07:18] <dr_willis> jacob_:  if you are in the same direcgtory as the file you  dont need the full path
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: you would not need all that in front, just the file name
[07:19] <[Saint]> My SO still occasionally gets tricked, whilst using Ubuntu, by flashing Aero-themes "You have a virus! Fix it at www.virusriddensite.com" popups :)
[07:19] <dr_willis> jacob_:  use 'ls' to see whats in the directory
[07:19] <[Saint]> Its human. I guess.
[07:19] <shubbar> I connected the SPDIF to the display card, but still not getting sound from the HDMI-to-HDMI cable
[07:19] <histo> jacob_: yes or you could sudo find /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -iname skype -exec rm {} \;
[07:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: and that is far more than he needed. stuff like that scares folk away from linux
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> shubbar have you went into the sound settings and selected it..
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> you have to select the hdmi output
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> it does not auto switch over.
[07:20] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: but easier for them to just copy and paste
[07:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: copypasta is windows mentality. better to learn.
[07:20] <jacob_> it doesn't give me the directory
[07:20] <shubbar> I also set the sound output device to Internal SPDIF
[07:20]  * [Saint] frowns
[07:20] <one> Ubuntu: I was used to adding a shell script in the /etc/init.d/ directory to invoke a binary on startup. Is there anything special about 12.10 that I should know, uch as this systemV stuff?
[07:20] <[Saint]> teching cpoy+paste == bad.
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> yeah but histo's line if copy pasted would work wonders
[07:20] <[Saint]> *teaching, even.
[07:21] <histo> jacob_: pwd  will show you what directory you are in.
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> yeah hers a nice loop for you to copy :{}]{}{l;
[07:21] <shubbar> Any advice on how to get sound with HDMI output?
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> well thats not really it. but dont try it
[07:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: you are evil, lol.
[07:21] <histo> jacob_: cd /path/to/directory/you/want   so cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   will change directory to the proper one. then you can sudo rm skype<tab>   press the tab key for auto completion.
[07:21] <jacob_> /etc/apt/sources.list.d$ pwd /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:21] <geomyidae> That's a good way to get banned or booted from #ubuntu
[07:21] <[Saint]> shubbar: you probably missed it, but were given an answer.
[07:22] <geomyidae> also, that doesn't look right anyway
[07:22] <[Saint]> You actually need to tell your system to use the HDMI out for sound.
[07:22] <l057c0d3r> that's because its not right
[07:22] <histo> jacob_: pwd by itself nothing after it. IT wil print out the directory you are in. Print Working Directory  pwd
[07:22] <l057c0d3r> i would not copy a working bomb here.. i like helping peeps
[07:22] <histo> !who | geomyidae
[07:23] <[Saint]> shubbar: "Sound Settings"; 'play sound through'; select your output
[07:23] <subcool> histo, back- finally
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: heh, nothin like a fork bomb to ruin your day. I did it in a vm once just to see it work
[07:23] <histo> l057c0d3r: What areyou talking about? doens't he want to remove the skypeblah.conf?
[07:23] <histo> subcool: Yes
[07:23] <one> How do I invoke a binary at boottime?
[07:23] <subcool> ok- so where were we?
[07:23] <histo> one: Which binary?
[07:23] <dr_willis> one a binary that does what exactly? /etc/rc.local is commonly used
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: add it to the startup applications.
[07:23] <subcool> histo, how do i get the ball rolling
[07:24] <histo> subcool: You were going to try installing 12.10 because it has lvm built in
[07:25] <histo> subcool: What happened with that?
[07:25] <[Saint]> wouldn't https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM be better than "upgrade your OS"?
[07:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> especially since 12.04 has 5-year support as opposed to 12.10's 1.5 years?
[07:26] <shubbar> In the Sound setting, there are two option: Digital SPDIF Out and Analog. Neither worked
[07:26] <histo> [Saint]: He is having trouble even mounting lvm from the 12.04 liveusb. Then he manages to mount his partitions and run the installer so who knows what sort of configuration he's got now.
[07:26] <dr_willis> glad i stay  away from lvm
[07:26] <subcool> histo, well, did u want me to install it to the laptop, or just the usb?
[07:26] <one> ntzrmtthihu777: this needs to be invoked as root
[07:26] <histo> [Saint]: So i suggested he install 12.10 to usb because it has lvm2 already
[07:27] <histo> subcool: the USB
[07:27] <[Saint]> LVM is great - when it works. Though, I will admit, switching over a running system is non-trivial.
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: no clue then.
[07:27] <histo> subcool: It has all the LVM2 stuff you need out of the box. Rather than booting a 12.04 from usb and installing LVM2
[07:27] <belgianguy> hi, my notifications on the login/greet screen are different from those once logged in
[07:27] <dubbypca>  l057c0d3r: so you guess its problem of the kernel in kombination with my hardware, right? im going to try a livecd of an older version and see if i can redo the crashes there, but im nearly sure it wont crahs. did no changes on hardware and it went well in ubuntu 11
[07:27] <one> dr_willis: what about /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:27] <subcool> histo, right- im setup
[07:27] <belgianguy> how does one set the notifications of the login/greet screen?
[07:28] <l057c0d3r> dubbypca, it could be a number if different things...
[07:28] <histo> subcool: You really need to take the 5minutes to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM so you understand what is going on.
[07:28] <dubbypca> but no clues from the screenshot are possible?
[07:28] <jacob_> With all the commands that is dealing with skype wrapper, it just tells me there is no such file or directory
[07:29] <l057c0d3r> what i seen looked like a graphics fault... but not exactly sure
[07:29] <dubbypca> asomeone told me the profs might see wheres the problem
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: do ls
[07:29] <dr_willis> when  in  doubt LOOK  and see whats there. ;)
[07:29] <histo> subcool: You will see the part about installing and understand what you are doing wrong.
[07:29] <jacob_> ls
[07:29] <jacob_> ok
[07:29] <histo> subcool: You need to install lvm after you install 12.04
[07:29] <histo> jacob_: I came in late what is it that you are trying to do?
[07:30] <dubbypca> propably the nvidia card yes, thats what i feel
[07:30] <jacob_> Get rid of the skype-wrapper ppa
[07:30] <histo> subcool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM#Install_lvm2_onto_your_new_Ubuntu_Install  just doing this section will fix your problems
[07:30] <histo> jacob_: Any reason you don't just go into software sources and remove it?
[07:31] <histo> jacob_: System Settings > Software Sources
[07:31] <subcool> histo, yeah- that looks familiaer - ill do it...
[07:31] <jacob_> I have tried cant find it in there if you can help me find it in there i may have better luck
[07:31] <subcool> give me a few
[07:32] <shubbar> [Saint], Digital SPDIF Out in sound setting didnt work. I have connected the display card audio in to the motherboard spdif output
[07:32] <dr_willis> jacob_:  if ls dosent show the file.. then its gone
[07:32] <[Saint]> shubbar: that _should_ work...
[07:32] <histo> subcool: Read the whole page first then you will understand that section.
[07:32] <histo> jacob_: why do you think it's installed still?
[07:32] <subcool> ok, -
[07:32] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi all, I have a simple problem... "Ambiance" theme wont work probebly... everything switch to it Except the window panel (name and X & - buttons)
[07:33] <Safa_[A_boy]> what is the problem?
[07:34] <one> dr_willis: hey doc! its iptraf
[07:34] <dubbypca> might a look into syslog be more helpfull? i posted one yesterday on the german channel. sadly noone had an idea whats the problem: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/413807/
[07:35] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], sounds like your windows manager is using a different theme pattern.. for instance..  my system uses gtk themes as well..
[07:35] <l057c0d3r> what wm are you using
[07:35] <jacob_> Ok and Histo I am in the Because the only thing that i have done is remove the grum or what ever the word was and I haven't successfully rm the ppa atleast from what i have noticed in the terminal.
[07:35] <dubbypca> and the xsessions-error. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/413812/ 
[07:35] <Safa_[A_boy]> how can I know ? :P
[07:36] <dubbypca> xorg-log is in link one at line 4411
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> did you install ubunut kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu ubuntu-gnome-remix ext
[07:36] <histo> dubbypca: have you done a memtest?
[07:36] <Safa_[A_boy]> yeah
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> which one
[07:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> kde lxde xfce gnome and ciamon
[07:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> all :P
[07:37] <dubbypca> histo, i did.
[07:37] <dubbypca> no errors
[07:38] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], you may have to go though all the settings....  and see if you can find all the theme settings and set them to what you want..  since you have so many different ones...  also might want to check out the gnome-tweak tool and ubuntu tweak
[07:38] <Kartagis> good morning #ubuntu
[07:38] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[07:38] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[07:38] <l057c0d3r> some settings will change it for one desktop environment.. but the next might use a different one
[07:38] <jacob_> Well its not even in synaptic packages either.
[07:39] <Safa_[A_boy]> ubuntu tweak wont work, but np
[07:39] <dubbypca> just ubuntu
[07:39] <jacob_> so doesn't that mean it is gone?
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, yep
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> should be
[07:39] <jacob_> Ok thank you all for your help
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, should still do a sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> if you havent already
[07:40] <jacob_> Yeah i was just going to do that
[07:40] <dubbypca> ubuntu.de
[07:41] <cfhowlett> dubbypca, #ubuntu-de for german ...
[07:41] <dubbypca> sry, wrong window while typing ^^
[07:42] <jacob_> Ok my last question is going to be a dumb question but is it normal if you go into setting then go to details and the overview hast the list of memory, processor, and ECT. well the Graphics says unknown, Is that normal?
[07:43] <jacob_> and the driver says unknown too.
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> if you don't have a binary driver installed yeah
[07:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> l057c0d3r, the thing that I can't understand that only this theme have this problem! "Radiance" dont have it :(
[07:45] <jacob_> Ok does that really matter to have? and could that be a reason why steam doesn't run the games so well, Because like i installed steam and team fortress but it runs extremly slow. and i have no idea why it is, because my graphics and memory and prossecer should run the program just fine.
[07:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> opps :|
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], hmm..  might be an incomplete theme set
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> not sure...
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> sorry i cant help more
[07:46] <one> Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/ runs any shell scripts in the directory at boot time correct??
[07:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> its Ubuntu default theme... and it was working probably !
[07:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> never mind :)
[07:47] <invariant> Is there any e-mail client which works with eml files in attachments?
[07:48] <invariant> By that I mean that it just displays the messages in a configurable order.
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> gui or cli?
[07:50] <subcool> histo, ok- im a lil caught up, but- im not too sure about sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot -
[07:50] <jacob_> Does any one run steam on there system, because it runs extremely bad and i am just wondering if its because my driver for my graphics is unknown?
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, yes i run steam
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> and it works great.. if you have the experimental drivers installed for your card
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> i have an adm card.. and had to use the one from the adm website
[07:51] <subcool> histo, i do see a bit of a issue... -
[07:52] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, any.
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> what card do you have ?
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: I don't recall offhand, but I need to re-find it. do you use gmail or what?
[07:52] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, how is my mail service provider relevant?
[07:52] <jacob_> Ok, home ram does it use? Because for some odd reason it runs slow, and my system is fairly new, and i have just under 3 gb for memory
[07:53] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, I find it annoying when people ask for irrelevant details.
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> well i have 5gb ram and with steam running im using 27% right now and i got other things running
[07:53] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595328/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595329/
[07:53] <Grimhound> I'm not mad. Just very, very disappointed.
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, you will want the binary drivers from the website of your video card manufacture installed
[07:54] <Grimhound> Thought this place was for support and not trolling.
[07:54] <subcool> Grimhound, someone picking on u?
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | jacob_
[07:55] <Grimhound> People told me a series of commands that essentially scrambled my install of Xubuntu
[07:55] <histo> subcool: What issue is that?
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: it is not irrelevant, the guide I know of assumes gmail and it may not work for other providers.
[07:55] <subcool> Grimhound, happens lol -
[07:55] <histo> Grimhound: They did not. YOUR ISSUES were prior to that command. But you won't open your eyes right now to see that.
[07:55] <subcool> histo, i have two boots.. sda1 and sdb1
[07:55] <Grimhound> So I reformatted, went outside to calm down and shovel through a foot of snow and avoid a brain aneurysm, calmed down, and then hired a hitman.
[07:55] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, show me the guide and I will decide on that myself.
[07:56] <Grimhound> I had no issues before that, histo.
[07:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: gladly
[07:56] <Grimhound> My issue was an icon.
[07:56] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, next time just say 'for gmail do URL'.
[07:56] <Grimhound> My issue was a bluetooth icon showing up where it shouldn't.
[07:56] <subcool> Grimhound, so you in the tristate?
[07:56] <histo> Grimhound: You obviously did because running startx as someone else suggested to you will not harm your system.
[07:56] <Grimhound> It wiped my settings and locked me out.
[07:56] <Grimhound> I could only access my computer as Guest
[07:57] <subcool> startx only boots the gui
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> Grimhound, and if you seen what i said.....  bluetooth icon.. then bluetooth is running... remove it from system startup and all should be well after reboot
[07:57] <leptone> anyone know anything about running minecraft on 12.04? :)
[07:57] <Grimhound> Then booting the GUI wipes settings and locks you out
[07:57] <Grimhound> I was on a fresh install as it was
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> and after running a starx..  a reboot should have fixed anything that it did
[07:57] <subcool> leptone, hahah- wow.
[07:57] <Grimhound> leptone: It's a java app.
[07:57] <histo> Grimhound: It does not wipe anything out stop spreading lies
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: its the only one i am aware of, so again, no reason for bein that specific.
[07:57] <Grimhound> Install java. Play game.
[07:58] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, are you ever going to post the URL?
[07:58] <leptone> im seeing 100%-250% CPU usage with open JDK and Sun JDK
[07:58] <Grimhound> histo: I am not. I'm saying what happened to me
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: as soon as I find it.
[07:58] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, nobody cares about your chat.
[07:58] <histo> Grimhound: I'm telling you something else happened to you.
[07:58] <subcool> Grimhound, ya- starting gui doesnt do that, you problably just had something ..
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: you know what, find it yourself.
[07:58] <subcool> Grimhound, ive messed up startx MANY times..
[07:58] <Grimhound> It was literally a fresh install. Programs installed otherwise: Cheese, Audacity
[07:59] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, you know what? Next time don't say anything.
[07:59] <histo> Grimhound: The only way that's possible is if you had some horrible delete command or something in .xinitrc or something that you did previously. How do you think your desktop starts now?
[07:59] <histo> Grimhound: Try and recreate the issue in a virtual machine. I bet you won't be able to.
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> on my gentoo system.. i don't have it set to auto load a desktop.. since its a server..
[07:59] <histo> Grimhound: fresh install and run startx
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> so if i want a desktop i have to type starx in term every time
[08:00] <Grimhound> I typed "sudo startx" It brought me to a screen which bounced me into a wiped out root login
[08:00] <leptone> running minecraft uses 100%-250% CPU making my system and the game unusable. anyone know anything?
[08:00] <Grimhound> All options were gone
[08:00] <Grimhound> I tried restarting, restart command was gone
[08:00] <Grimhound> So I shutdown.
[08:00] <subcool> Grimhound, dont do sudo
[08:00] <Grimhound> Restarted my computer. Login screen. All passwords refused
[08:00] <l057c0d3r> Grimhound, and it was still messed up after reboot
[08:00] <subcool> Grimhound, sudo boots up root - very bad
[08:00] <l057c0d3r> but yeah.. like subcool said not do sudo with startx
[08:01] <subcool> Grimhound, sudo passwd will create a password for sudo/root
[08:01] <subcool> Grimhound, from there, you can create users.
[08:01] <jacob_> Well great mine isn't even on the list, I have A AMD Vision radeon hd 6310 atleast from what i see
[08:02] <subcool> Grimhound, you can also view ur users and groups to see where everything is.
[08:02] <subcool> Grimhound, heck, you can even delete the password file and start fresh. -
[08:03] <Mishke> how ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 works with GNOME Shell?
[08:03] <Grimhound> Whoever was having an issue with Minecraft: Take note that while the game look simple, it's actually one of the more intensive games on PC
[08:03] <belgianguy> jacob_: isn't that the 6300 Series then?
[08:03] <SunStar> thus its success
[08:03] <l057c0d3r_> and follow the guide on installing from the website.. in the ati part of the guide.. will work fine on that card
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mishke: I am not sure about 12.10+, but 12.04 works perfectly fine.
[08:03] <subcool> histo, so anyways-... sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/boot - which do i do- ? sdb or sda?
[08:04] <jacob_> Yeah i am pretty sure
[08:05] <belgianguy> jacob_: I missed the discussion, but if you're looking for the latest beta, those are here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/RN_LN_CAT13-2_Beta.aspx
[08:05] <histo> subcool: sda is the drive not a partition
[08:06] <Mishke> sda1 sda2 etc its partition
[08:06] <jacob_> No Binary drivers because in my details say that my drivers are unknown and steam doesn't run teamfortress at all, Its so slow and one of the guys who runs steam on his system said it could be because of the binary driver
[08:06] <subcool> histo, so- do sda1?
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know how to lowercase all letters but the first in a file name via rename?
[08:07] <belgianguy> jacob_: you'll need the latest unstable/beta to run Steam
[08:07] <belgianguy> TF2 runs fine here, although it still crashes from time to time
[08:07] <jacob_> so in that case i just have to switch it to that in the additional drivers?
[08:08] <l057c0d3r_> nope
[08:08] <belgianguy> jacob_: it's not that easy, doing it wrong and it'll be hard to regain control
[08:08] <Grimhound> To anyone currently horribly and hopelessly frustrated, here. weather.com/video/a-squeaky-frog-34537
[08:08] <l057c0d3r_> not sure about yours but mine system did not have the experimental drivers in the additional drivers page
[08:08] <belgianguy> you'll want to be 200% sure abut what you're doing
[08:09] <l057c0d3r_> so i made a deb from the package on the amd website.. its not really that har
[08:09] <subcool> histo, so anyways- i did it- - im chroot'ed
[08:09] <l057c0d3r_> d
[08:09] <jacob_> Oh yeah not in 12.04lts so i can't do it that way, anyways i am in 12.10, And yeah i kinda figure that.
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Grimhound: now that is entertaining
[08:10] <l057c0d3r_> just rememer if you follow the guide..   made it for quantal not percice.. because you are on 12.10
[08:10] <histo> subcool: Now follow the guide to install lvm2
[08:10] <subcool> histo, wha? -
[08:10] <subcool> histo, install lvm2 packages you mean?
[08:10] <histo> subcool: I have no idea anymore where you are intalling ubuntu to. You have duplicate partitions. You have some used as lvm and others outside of the extended partition that aren't lvm.
[08:11] <jacob_> i can get the driver form amd. but the only thing is that i am not sure if its linux 86 or 86_64,
[08:11] <subcool> histo, the ones outside arent anything, mostly for storage
[08:11] <subcool> histo, sooner or later ill install win or something
[08:11] <subcool> histo, lvm is mostly the actual install
[08:12] <subcool> histo, but check this out..
[08:12] <antonio__> I need to find out whats wrong with my system...
[08:12] <histo> subcool: Okay well you need to mount Whatever LVM partition you installed ubuntu to. Then you need to follow that page the after installation steps to get it working
[08:12] <one> Anyone: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:12] <histo> subcool: /dev/sda1 does nto appear to be lvm.
[08:12] <belgianguy> jacob_: open a terminal and enter "uname -a"
[08:12] <subcool> histo, http://paste.kde.org/690104
[08:12] <subcool> histo, nope-
[08:13] <subcool> histo, ok- ill re-read it
[08:13] <histo> subcool: Which partition do you have mounted/
[08:13] <histo> subcool: that you chrooted to?
[08:13] <i3ear> hey, can anyone tell me how to mount a DVD Rom with the unhide option on?
[08:14] <histo> subcool: paste the output of lsblk right now.
[08:14] <belgianguy> jacob_: you'll want to find a guide, as you'll need to uninstall the old one first, (or things can break), PLUS the beta has an overlay "beta testing only" that you'll need to remove by a script
[08:14] <one> oops... Anyone: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:14] <histo> subcool: on the usb not in the chroot
[08:14] <subcool> histo, im missing something, everything keeps fialing.
[08:14] <subcool> histo, oh
[08:14] <histo> subcool: When you installed did you tell it to use your seperate var partition?
[08:14] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595355/
[08:14] <subcool> histo, yes
[08:15] <jacob_> Oh ok maybe they will teach me those things tomorrow at free geek, Because they only deal with Linux, Mainly Ubuntu too. So i will talk to them about it.
[08:15] <jacob_> Thanks you guys
[08:15] <subcool> histo, mount it to /var?
[08:15] <histo> subcool: then you will need to mount the var partition to /where/ever/you/mouted/root/var
[08:15] <antonio__> I'm getting a ton of errors
[08:15] <antonio__> http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/Screenshotfrom2013-03-07221255_zps68eb4887.png.html
[08:15] <Apoptosis> free geek portland?
[08:15] <jacob_> Yeah, Why?
[08:15] <Apoptosis> neat
[08:15] <Apoptosis> I was there today
[08:15] <histo> subcool: mount the var partition to /mnt/var  and moutn your /tmp partition to /mnt/tmp
[08:16] <histo> subcool: then the rest of the guide shoudl work fine.
[08:16] <subcool> histo, ok- brb
[08:17] <belgianguy> jacob_: http://www.upubuntu.com/2013/01/amd-catalyst-display-driver-131-adds.html
[08:17] <subcool> histo, give me a few- brb -
[08:18] <one> dr_willis: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:18] <jacob_> Nice Yeah no i am going to go through all there programs and then try and get a job with them, The have one opening right now that i need to send my resume in to right now, and Thank you Belgianguy i will be reading that
[08:19] <belgianguy> jacob_: The one I followed a week ago was slightly different for 12.10, but can't locate it atm
[08:19] <belgianguy> but that article is more recent than what I read
[08:19] <histo> jacob_: what is free geek?
[08:19] <nima_sh> i have problem installing ubuntu
[08:19] <histo> !details | nima_sh
[08:20] <belgianguy> jacob_: this is what I followed: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-129-driver.html
[08:20] <belgianguy> and you'll want to find the script to remove the watermark
[08:20] <acalvo> has anyone succeed with preseeding an installation?
[08:20] <histo> jacob_: Install the driver from the repos
[08:21] <histo> jacob_: don't use anything else
[08:21] <nima_sh> im using ubunto installer for windows to install ubuntu v12.10 but i recieve an eror : AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'
[08:22] <subcool> histo, thats not working out very well
[08:22] <dylan_> can someone help me?
[08:22] <jacob_> Its a nonprofit company that gets peoples old to new computer and test all the donations and builds computers to sell back out in to the protland area and they only deal with upbunt and other linux os, and ok i will, there is there web site for you histo  http://www.freegeek.org/
[08:23] <belgianguy> histo: if you want to play steam reliably, you'll need the latest and greatest
[08:23] <dylan_> i need help with my wifi please, i have the correct driver installed bt see no networks
[08:23] <nima_sh> what can i do?
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: what kind of machine is it?
[08:23] <dylan_> its a dell m1330
[08:23] <belgianguy> histo: the changelog explicitly mentions Steam/TF2, so I do think it's related
[08:23] <dylan_> i'm on a friends computer using the wifi to chat right now
[08:23] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595370
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: I have similar issue on my hp dv5, I turned wifi off then on using hardware button and it worked
[08:24] <dylan_> i don't have a hardware button
[08:24] <dylan_> i don't think
[08:24] <dylan_> hold on
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: no fn+f# key?
[08:24] <dylan_> not for wifi it doesnt appear
[08:24] <jacob_> it should be like fn f12 or near there
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: strange. as jacob_ said.
[08:25] <dylan_> theyre blank
[08:25] <dylan_> i'm googling to see if theres a toggle
[08:25] <l057c0d3r_> on my system if i hit fn f12 it is f12.. otherwise the button does the other operation.. like dimming.. sound down / up ext
[08:25] <one> Hey
[08:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: also try using it from the network manager
[08:25] <kjdigh> hello everyone. If someone can explain to me what is exactly the "system()" in the source of syslog-ng, it would be great
[08:25] <dylan_> ntzrmtthihu777: using what?
[08:26] <kjdigh> as defautl I have only internal() and system(), and not unix-strem("/dev/log") and file("/proc/kmsg")
[08:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: the disable wireless, enable wireless
[08:26] <nello> \list
[08:26] <dylan_> i don't even see that option
[08:27] <jacob_> through the network settings if you go up in the corner where you can restart there should be a networking symbol
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> !list | nello
[08:27] <jacob_> click it and then there should be network settings or a toggle there
[08:27] <belgianguy> anyone know where the settings of unity-greeter are?
[08:27] <dylan_> jacob_: in network settings all thats listed is wired, and network proxy
[08:28] <belgianguy> my notifications of the login screen are all messed up
[08:28] <Industrial> What package do I install to get tab completion of git in bash?
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> belgianguy: /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter sometingh
[08:28] <dylan_> okay i just dechecked enable networking, then rechecked it, nothing
[08:28] <l057c0d3r_> belgianguy, if your talking about the login screen... then there is no gui app for it
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: you don't already have it
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: you don't already have it?
[08:28] <belgianguy> l00pback: cli will be fine :)
[08:28] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: when I press tab, nothing happens. no branch names are auto completed.
[08:28] <belgianguy> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks, I'll have a look
[08:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: wow, strange. you are typing a few keys first, right?
[08:29] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: yes. it just tabs/prints the dir.
[08:29] <dylan_> jacob_:
[08:29] <jacob_> dylan_ its still not showing any wen you did that right?
[08:30] <dylan_> jacob_: right
[08:30] <dylan_> i updated my bios tonite, maybe it got disabled in there, let me check
[08:30] <nima_sh> when i want to install ubuntu v12.10 i get this eror AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'
[08:30] <nima_sh> what can i do
[08:31] <jacob_> Looking up the system info si i can see what the problem could be.and ok
[08:31] <bazhang> nima_sh, wubi install?
[08:31] <nima_sh> yes
[08:31] <histo> subcool: sorry i'm back hows it going?
[08:31] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: do you know what package is in charge of this? Maybe I can restart it.
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> try source /etc/bash_completion
[08:32] <subcool> histo, scroll up- bad
[08:32] <bazhang> nima_sh, wubi is more of a test drive you realize, not a real long term dual boot solution
[08:32] <histo> subcool: Are you connected to the internet on this machine?
[08:32] <jacob_> Dylan its ubuntu 12.10 right?
[08:32] <subcool> im on it now :)
[08:32] <histo> subcool: after you chroot apt-get update then install your packages
[08:32] <subcool> histo, update erros
[08:32] <dylan_> jacob_: what do i need to do? btw i checked bios settings theyre fine
[08:33] <dylan_> jacob_: right
[08:33] <nima_sh> bazhang : so what can i do
[08:33] <histo> !patience > nima_sh
[08:33] <jacob_> checking the troubleshoot process.
[08:34] <histo> subcool: Well you will have to paste them I can't read your mind
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> nima_sh: first thing you gotta realize is wubi == fail
[08:34] <subcool> histo, working on it-
[08:34] <histo> !wubi | nima_sh
[08:34] <jacob_> When you installed Ubuntu 12.10 did you check to install the drivers with it?
[08:34] <l057c0d3r_> ntzrmtthihu777, now now... i ran a wubi install for quite a long time with out a problem
[08:35] <l057c0d3r_> was actually nice before i removed windows..l
[08:35] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595384
[08:35] <l057c0d3r_> just used a simlink to the windows folders in /host for my music/ pictures ext
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: as many folk as I hear bellyachinc about their wubi screwing up I see little reason to do it. no benefit, as you are still using windows's filespace, and you could presumeably screw it up with a fragmented drive.
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah, I did the same with my dual boot before I completely switched over.
[08:36] <[Saint]> What's wrong with Wubi?
[08:37] <l057c0d3r_> thats what i was saying :-p
[08:37] <[Saint]> Oh noes! A loopback FS!
[08:37] <[Saint]> ;)
[08:37] <jacob_> Has anyone tried JoliOS?
[08:37] <histo> subcool: What command did you chroot with?
[08:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I would assume chroot
[08:38] <dylan__> jacob_: i got timed out
[08:38] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: really with the issues he's having.
[08:38] <jacob_> When you installed Ubuntu 12.10 did you check to install the drivers with it?
[08:39] <[Saint]> ...there's an option for that?
[08:39] <dylan__> jacob_: all i did was download the iso, install on flash drive, and booted and installed from there
[08:39] <histo> subcool: exit the chroot. Ensure that the machine is connected to the internet. open a terminal chroot /mnt .  Once you are in there apt-get update
[08:39] <[Saint]> AFAIK the only prompts are "download updates" and "download non-free"
[08:39] <[Saint]> (mp3 codec)
[08:39] <dylan__> i didn't see any sort of option for drivers or think to, but under additional drivers in software sources, the proper broadcom driver appears installed and activated
[08:39] <Industrial> Where are the settings for Unity keyboard commands? I want to completely disable WIN/SUPER_L + 1-9. I want to use those for something else.
[08:39] <[Saint]> dylan__: that's because there aren't any.
[08:40] <[Saint]> that's ok :)
[08:40] <histo> !wubi > nima_sh
[08:40] <histo> !dualboot > nima_sh
[08:40] <subcool> histo, just that chroot /mnt
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: there is a section in system settings dealing with hotkeys
[08:40] <histo> subcool: paste lsblk again now that you have changed moujnts and stuff.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: called keyboard shortcuts, search your dash for it.
[08:41] <pecc> hello people, my lil' thang has started trying to connect wireless all the time -- doesn't let me untick "Enable Wireless", reboot is of no help, setting 0wlan (or was it wlan0) does nothing, this would be fine but I have for the most times a wired connection and the wireless gets unconnected and the notifications bug me -- running 12.10
[08:41] <jacob_> I am guessing your system is hooked up to the inter net via Ethernet?
[08:41] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595386/
[08:41] <dylan__> i am on my roomates computer, hooked up to the wifi network
[08:41] <dylan__> mine is next to me
[08:41] <histo> subcool: and you chroot /mnt and then apt-get update errors?
[08:42] <subcool> histo, correct
[08:42] <histo> subcool: please exit the current chroot close the terminal and open a new one. then try to chroot again.
[08:42] <subcool> k
[08:42] <histo> subcool: sudo chroot /mnt too
[08:42] <histo> subcool: use sudo
[08:43] <subcool> k- in..
[08:43] <jacob_> can you hook it up via Ethernet?
[08:43] <subcool> histo, errors
[08:44] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595399
[08:45] <one> Ubuntu: how come when I add a cd using apt-cdrom it still gets ignored using apt-get?
[08:45] <histo> subcool: paste your /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list please
[08:45] <dlam> if i `crontab -e` and update a job, does it take effect right away?  (or do i gotta restart a service maybe?)
[08:46] <histo> dlam: as far as I know it should take effect immediately
[08:46] <spencer> Can someone tell me is curl going to be better than wget for downloading only new files on a URL?
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> spencer: what kinda files
[08:47] <histo> !better | spencer
[08:47] <subcool> histo, well- lol.. i dont have a /mnt/etc/
[08:47] <histo> subcool: inside the chroot it will be /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <histo> subcool: sorry
[08:47] <subcool> histo, haha- ops
[08:47] <jacob_> Dylan, i am going to send you a link you will need and Ethernet connection but this should work if you have the same/similar specs/networking cards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115990
[08:48] <jacob_> dylan, You may want to try that,
[08:48] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595405
[08:49] <dylan__> i'm trying to find a way to do it without ethernet but i will try this tomorrow
[08:49] <deaw111> .
[08:49] <kimera> can anybody tell me if this http://www.staples.com/Canon-PIXMA-MX432-Wireless-All-in-One-Printer/product_477867 printer works with ubuntu 12.10
[08:50] <kimera> or how I can go about finding out if it does
[08:50] <histo> subcool: try apt-get update again. See if the errors at the top are different. I think you are having connectivity issues
[08:51] <histo> !cups | kimera
[08:51] <subcool> histo, ya- i've seen it. half of it errors, the other half doesnt..
[08:51] <subcool> histo, it does the same thing every time
[08:52] <histo> subcool: The exact same errors each time?
[08:52] <hjalp> hjalp pl0x
[08:52] <subcool> histo, im not sure how the connectivity issues can be a part, its this computer.. haha - im online
[08:52] <spencer> ubottu: sorry not my intent. I am just getting frustrated with wget.
[08:52] <deaw11> .
[08:53] <spencer> ...
[08:53] <subcool> histo, well i havent done a character comparision.. but-
[08:53] <spencer> ubottu: seriously a bot?
[08:53] <[Saint]> spencer: yes, its a bot.
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> omg thats too damn funny
[08:53] <hjalp> hjalp me bot
[08:53] <spencer> That cool and creepy at the same time
[08:54] <hjalp> need my ubuntu fixed
[08:54] <[Saint]> It probably thinks the same thing ;)
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | hjalp
[08:54] <histo> subcool: On the USB opena  terminal and try sudo apt-get update do you get the same errors?
[08:54] <subcool> nah-
[08:54] <hjalp> 12.10 i have problem with Nvidia, after attempting instalation lost my top and side bar
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: did you try rebooting?
[08:55] <subcool> histo, really wishing i could forse pastebinit
[08:55] <hjalp> not all i do is from terminal, only desktop and cursosr show up + i AM on s vidio and all is haky
[08:55] <histo> subcool: You should be able to from the usb assuming that working.
[08:55] <hjalp> rebooted and tried lots of stuff
[08:56] <histo> subcool: What country are you in btw?
[08:56] <[Saint]> Send me your PC, I'll debug it ;)
[08:56] <hjalp> n1
[08:57] <subcool> histo, us-
[08:57] <hjalp> i was wondering is there a way to get my enviroment back
[08:57] <jacob_> Oh histo i did sudo apt-get install for pastbin but its not on my system so i am not sure how to get int to and see it
[08:57] <hjalp> like sidebar (if thats what its called in ubuntu)
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: apt-get install pastebinit
[08:58] <hjalp> how does one alt tab in ubuntu?
[08:58] <jacob_> I did do that but i am not able to find it anywhere?
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: just like that.
[08:59] <[Saint]> with alt and tab
[08:59] <hjalp> cat alt tab terminal
[08:59] <hjalp> *cant
[08:59] <hjalp> maybe exeption
[08:59] <jacob_> no click ctl alt t
[08:59] <hjalp> y
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: what exactly do you mean, alt-tab, that does it do
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> *what
[09:00] <histo> subcool: k. let me now how sudo apt-get update works from terminal on the USB
[09:00] <histo> not int he chroot
[09:00] <hjalp> go from one window to another
[09:00] <jacob_> that will get you to the termanil
[09:00] <hjalp> i am huge linux noob
[09:00] <jacob_> terminal*
[09:00] <subcool> histo, itworks fine..
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: what version of ubuntu
[09:00]  * [Saint] states positively that one can indeed alt+tab to the terminal
[09:00] <[Saint]> ...assuming it is open, that is.
[09:00] <hjalp> this is like my 2nd day and i already broke it
[09:00] <jacob_> Oh yeah its alt tab
[09:00] <histo> subcool: Is it trying to connect to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <[Saint]> the server it connects to is irrelevant.
[09:01] <histo> [Saint]: not for the errors he is getting
[09:01] <hjalp> i also dont have top part of every single window (its place where close and minimise should be)
[09:01] <subcool> histo, - yea..
[09:02] <histo> [Saint]: He maynot be able to reach the us. repos but can reach others.
[09:02] <hjalp> can anyone guess what i did wrong or shall i just reinstall whole thing
[09:03] <jacob_> Here right click on the desktop and go change desktop and go to settings
[09:03] <hjalp> ne?
[09:03] <[Saint]> *change desktop background
[09:03] <histo> subcool: so the USB apt can reach the repos but the chroot'd cant?
[09:04] <subcool> yep
[09:04] <hjalp> how do i minimize irc?
[09:04] <pecc> hjalp: do the toolbars appear when you move your cursor near where they should be?
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: use the minimize key.
[09:04] <jacob_> Hjalp go to change desktop beackground by right clicking the desktop, at this point idk
[09:04] <[Saint]> ntzrmtthihu777: he doesn't have one - not in the UI, at least
[09:05] <histo> subcool: okay your hosts and resolv.conf are still jacked up in the chroot
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: ohh, I missed that one.
[09:05] <hjalp> what
[09:05] <hjalp> i triend to drag it down but compiz stoped working
[09:05] <histo> subcool: paste your /etc/resolv.conf from the chroot
[09:05] <jacob_> right click  the desktop and go to change desktop background
[09:05] <histo> subcool: and your /etc/hosts
[09:05] <kurteknikk> Hi,  i am running into this issue: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> and this Is why I am glad I don't have to deal with compiz
[09:06] <kurteknikk> error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '....
[09:06] <hjalp> hjelp me
[09:06] <kurteknikk> I had a look around and everybody says it's a wrong password for the user: debian-sys-maint but the password is right... Any idea what else can be wrong ?
[09:06] <hjalp> pl0x
[09:06] <histo> subcool: actually if we just fix /etc/resolv.conf we should be good.
[09:06] <pecc> anyone know how to effectively disable wireless short of removing the card physically?
[09:07] <subcool> histo, yea- that is empty
[09:07] <jacob_> Hjalp i am trying to help i think your display settings
[09:07] <hjalp> y
[09:07] <l057c0d3r_> pecc if its a lappy toggle it with the fn key
[09:07] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595433
[09:07] <hjalp> my sidplay is like 800x somethin
[09:07] <subcool> histo, thats my hosts
[09:07] <hjalp> and unindentified
[09:07] <l057c0d3r_> pecc or click on the network symble in the taskbar at top.. and click disable wireless
[09:07] <hjalp> meybe beacuse i am on S-video
[09:08] <jacob_> Because your display settings my not be correct
[09:08] <hjalp> nvidia and 12.10
[09:08] <histo> subcool: and let me see the resolv.conf
[09:08] <subcool> histo, no output
[09:08] <subcool> histo, its empty
[09:08] <deaw11> .
[09:09] <histo> subcool: echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[09:09] <histo> subcool: do that in the chroot
[09:09] <hjalp> jacob_, shall i do one reinstall and start over? i have this ubuntu for like 2 days
[09:09] <subcool> histo, k
[09:09] <pecc> l057c0d3r: aye, that's he rub: it doesn't LET me disable my wireless that way. I click on it and it just closes the menu, when I reopen it "enable wireless" is still ticked. I tried setting 0wlan/wlan0 off via terminal too, it did nothing.
[09:09] <histo> subcool: then apt-get update
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> how odd
[09:09] <subcool> histo, you rock
[09:10] <deaw11> .
[09:10] <jacob_> you don't have to fully reinstall it if you just go the boot menu instart up and go to recovery.
[09:10] <jacob_> if your going to do that.
[09:10] <pecc> l057c0d3r: also I can't use the menu to edit my connections to check if my Overly Attached Wireless connection is set to connect automatically
[09:11] <subcool> histo, isnt that nameserver for google?
[09:11] <hjalp> i reinstalen once and got same resoult (not sure what i choose) i have live usb
[09:11] <histo> subcool: yes
[09:11] <Fuzzles> have they changed all the icons in 13.04 or is it just the dash icon?
[09:11] <histo> !raring | Fuzzles
[09:11] <histo> subcool: okay so it works now?
[09:11] <subcool> histo, yep :)
[09:12] <histo> subcool: alright those &gt;%gt;  is supposed to be >>
[09:12] <hjalp> jacob_, so how to start boot meny?
[09:12] <hjalp> i have live usb
[09:12] <shubbar> before i connected the display card SPDIF input to the MB output it was connected to the MB CI = chassis intrusion!  Could this have damaged it?
[09:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Are they going to back to A once they hit Zippy Zebra or whatever?
[09:12] <histo> Cyber_Akuma: the world ends then
[09:12] <Cyber_Akuma> aww :(
[09:12] <jacob_> Menu*, Well you turn off the computer or restart it and its either esc or i think f12
[09:12] <subcool> histo, it didnt like it...
[09:13] <histo> kind of like the myan callender
[09:13] <histo> subcool: didn't like what?
[09:13] <subcool> histo, root@kubuntu:/# echo "dm-mod" >>;>>; /etc/modules
[09:13] <subcool> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[09:13] <hjalp> k
[09:13] <histo> subcool: no echo "dm-mod" >> /etc/modules
[09:13] <hjalp> jacob_, thx for your halp man!
[09:13] <hjalp> have a nice day
[09:13] <jacob_> before you do that make sure you have the right buntu 12.10 for your system wither 32 bit or 64 bit
[09:14] <histo> subcool: root@kubuntu:/# echo "dm-mod" >> /etc/modules     Should look like this.
[09:14] <[Saint]> 64bit running 32bit - no problem; other way around - won;t boot - so, also no problem ;)
[09:14] <subcool> histo, thanks- i got the jist..
[09:15] <cyphase> anyone know how i can find directories that have more than N images? or perhaps list all directories in order of amount of images
[09:15] <histo> subcool: Yeah looks like a formatting error on that wiki page. I'll ahve to see if I can correct it.
[09:16] <subcool> histo, thanks for this-- very helpful. and better than the usual stuff- i actually got a clue about whats going on.. other than this last part
[09:16] <histo> cyphase: You'd have to use a few commands piped together
[09:17] <subcool> so i installed everything
[09:17] <histo> subcool: You learn from fixing rather than reinstalling
[09:17] <histo> subcool: you installed lvm2 and all that hoooplah righ?
[09:17] <subcool> histo, well, yes- but usually the people that help - just kinda tell me what to do- this makes more sense.
[09:17] <l057c0d3r_> right.. this is linux... dont reinstall.. fix
[09:18] <l057c0d3r_> almost everything can be done.../ reversed/ recovered
[09:18] <subcool> histo, not really sure what other hooplah is neccisary- but.. i;ve learned alot about lvm with this :)
[09:18] <subcool> histo, do you think all of this will fix it on boot?
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah. Although I recently borked a fresh install pretty baddly so it was better to just reinstall.
[09:19] <histo> subcool: yes if you've done everything in that section reboot unplug thrumb drive and crossfingers
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> better really
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> wipe config files.. strip down. and rebuild
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> :-p
[09:19] <subcool> histo, cool- lets see hwo it goes.. thanks :)
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: the bork removed 300 packages =_=
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> ahh...
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> well there was a log of what was removed :-p
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> could have re added... but if it was a fresh install might have been faster to reinstall
[09:21] <l057c0d3r_> what you remove.. ubuntu-unity-desktop
[09:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: no, it was a pinguy os install. I did not remove deliberately, it happened after a shutdown during apt-get upgrade
[09:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> thing was it came with a few nice wine goodies already setup, and I did not know how to do them myself, so heh
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:22] <Ohad> Hello, anyone knows how to enable autologin in my Beagleboard's ubuntu?
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> better in my opinion
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> but that is an opinion
[09:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah, I use dist-upgrade now, but I did not know at the time.
[09:23] <l057c0d3r_> Ohad, go to system settings...  users.. and auto login option should be in there
[09:24] <histo> Ohad: does it boot to a full GUI?
[09:24] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[09:24] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[09:25] <helmut_> hi
 I've looked there and there is no autologin option there. I have full GUI(LKDE with gdm), I'm using ubuntu 11.10 oneric and can't use the new version (sfot/hard float issues)
[09:27] <histo> Ohad: You have to look up instructions for autologin with gdm
[09:28] <ben1253> does anybody know the best working repository for maverick?
[09:28] <histo> !eol | ben1253
[09:28] <litropy> I'm looking for the package nvidia-smi
 thanks, i'll do that.
[09:28] <litropy> it's not in apt-get ... can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <histo> !find nvidia-smi
[09:29] <histo> litropy: ^^^
[09:29] <histo> Ohad: http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/812
[09:29] <ben1253> ubottu:yes it is eol!!! but atleast i need to update the repository
[09:30] <histo> ben1253: if you read the EOLUpgrades link it tells you how.
 tried that already, I have no file named  /etc/gdm/custom.conf, and creating it doesnt work
[09:30] <[Saint]> If people read more, half the channel wouldn't be here ;)
[09:30] <histo> ben1253: basically old-releases.ubuntu.com/blah
[09:31] <AsadH> Mann_Dude !
[09:31] <ben1253> histo:i don't want to upgrade the ubuntu!!bec this works very fine.hence
[09:31] <we6jbo> Hi
[09:31] <histo> ben1253: Well then i'm not sure what you want to do.
[09:31] <ben1253> histo:okk!
[09:32] <histo> ben1253: old-releases is the only working repo as far as I know.
[09:32] <histo> ben1253: but you don't want to read the webpage on how to use it. So I'm affraid no one will be able to help you.
[09:32] <ben1253> histo:ok,i am going to do that!!
[09:33] <pecc> ubottu is a bot so there's no point in talking back to it ;)
[09:33] <salz212> hi, how can I extract metadata of ext4 file system.. I need to know node list details, MAC times, Extents blocks information etc..
[09:33] <[Saint]> irony
[09:33] <llutz> salz212: dumpe2fs
[09:34] <pecc> ben1253: this was supposed to go to you but I derped -> ubottu is a bot so there's no point in talking back to it ;)
[09:35] <histo> lol
[09:35] <k1l> ben1253: an update  doessnt help you since there is no new updates in it
[09:35] <k1l> ben1253: that is the point of being EOL
[09:35] <histo> k1l: you're fighting a lost cause
[09:36] <ben1253> histo:i tried ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04 but,due to heavy use of graphics in unity,my laptop ain't able to run it properly.hence i switched back to 10.10.
[09:36] <llutz> !nounity | ben1253
[09:36] <Touhou11> ben1253: You might want to try using Xubuntu
[09:36] <k1l> ben1253: you should consider using xfce or lxde (Lubuntu) if your laptop is not powerfull or old
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I can say that gnome fallback works rather well
[09:37] <Touhou11> Gnome fallback is buggy, particularly the panel
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: do you even know what you are talking about? I've been running gnome fallback since precise came out
[09:37] <llutz> there are loads of DE/WM out there, pick what you like and what works for you
[09:38] <histo> ben1253: you should switch Desktop Environtments rather than run an EOL distro
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> right right.. while i used to love openbox lxde
[09:38] <Touhou11> ntzrmtthihu777: Your experience must differ
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> i prefer gnome-shell cairo-dock
[09:39] <ben1253> llutz:ok,but my laptop have sis graphic chipset.and if you know that sis is sticked to windows! hence they never release their device drivers for open source os.
[09:39] <histo> ben1253: Use xfce or lxde then or gnome-panel
[09:39] <ben1253> histo:yeah!! i am thinking about it!!
[09:39] <sgo11> hi, is that possible to remove grub version title in the grub? The first line in the grub screen. not OS entries. thanks.
[09:39] <k1l> ben1253: well, sis is  problem that is right. but that should not be a problem of using lxde as the desktop
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> if I read that right, if I remove gnome-shell and keep gnome-panel I keep the gnome-fallback (no effects) login?
[09:41] <ben1253> kll:ok but i don't know about it? would you please tell me,if possible?
[09:41] <l057c0d3r> in my experience.. and since i have a newer computer now i can use what i like.. but on my old system lubuntu was amazing
[09:41] <ben1253> histo:does these things works??
[09:41] <histo> ben1253: What things?
[09:41] <l057c0d3r> thats what im saying what things
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> if talking about buntu... yeah it works
[09:42] <histo> ben1253: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop then you can select them from the login screen
[09:42] <histo> ben1253: or you can download the lubuntu or xubuntu CDs.
[09:42] <ben1253> histo:means xfce,lxde,because i tried lxde in linux mint,but same problem appeared?
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: or if you like how ubuntu used to look go with gnome-shell
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> what problem
[09:43] <histo> ben1253: allegedly they are working on better fallback support in 13.04 also.
[09:43] <histo> ben1253: What was the problem you experienced
[09:43] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: you mean gnome-panel
[09:43] <salz212> guys dumpe2fs -V gives me : Using EXT2FS Library version 1.41.12 but I need ext4 info..
[09:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: true.
[09:44] <histo> salz212: it's supposed to print the version and exit wtih -V flag
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> they need to start adding customization features back in.... unity... gnome... im talking about you
[09:44] <ben1253> histo:i got the desired graphic resolution,but yellow strips were appearing on my screen when i was trying to shutdown.
[09:44] <salz212> yes I need to know info of ext4
[09:44] <salz212> I have used -b flag -h as well nothing.
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> gdm lightdm  that goes for you too
[09:45] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,thanks.
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> ben1253, only during shutdown
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> ?
[09:46] <ben1253> l057c0d3r:no,at starting too!!
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> but it worked fine while using ben1253 ?
[09:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what up room
[09:47] <ihoogend> hello
[09:47] <l057c0d3r> because desktop environment / windows managers have nothing to do with startup shutdown screens
[09:47] <ben1253> l057c0d3r:though it work fine? but that thing look weird!!
[09:47] <histo> salz212: I'm sure the sleuth kit has some tools that maybe valuable
[09:48] <adrianrh> hi! I have a question, how can I install something locally using the apt-get command, but without "sudo"
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> u cant?
[09:48] <jrib> adrianrh: what do you mean by "locally"?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: maybe a deb?
[09:48] <salz212> dumpe2fs -b /dev/sda1  give me dumpe2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) :(
[09:48] <histo> adrianrh: what do you mean locally?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> adrianrh: the point is moot, to install anything you need sudo, local or not
[09:48] <Touhou11> adrianrh: Re-enable the root user account, login as root
[09:48] <linusoleander> I'm trying to run the sleep calls inside the parentheses in parallel, but it don't work
[09:48] <adrianrh> jrib: I am working on a community system, and need a local installation on my home area
[09:48] <linusoleander> The script still takes 27 sec, instead of 20, what I'm I doing wrong?
[09:48] <linusoleander> time (sleep 5 && (sleep 7 ; sleep 10) && sleep 5)
[09:49] <jrib> adrianrh: you can't, really.  Ask your admin to install the software
[09:49] <histo> salz212: use lls
[09:49] <salz212> -h worked.
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: why are you suggesting a full root login to an obvious newb?
[09:50] <salz212> but I need to know ext4 related info.. i am using fresh ubuntu
[09:50] <histo> salz212: sudo apt-get install sleuthkit  and use lls possibly?:
[09:50] <amcsi> hi
[09:51] <salz212> okay trying
[09:51] <zero_coder> hi amcsi
[09:51] <ben1253> histo:do you know,if i try lxde ubuntu in my laptop,it works properly?basically with this sis?
[09:51] <kurteknikk> Anybody knows anything about logrotate ?
[09:51] <amcsi> how do I use my gnome network manager vps's in command line?
[09:51] <llutz> !anyone | kurteknikk
[09:51] <Touhou11> ntzrmtthihu777: That's one way of accomplishing what was asked, there's nothing wrong with using the root account if one is careful
[09:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's new in ubuntu these days?
[09:51] <kubuntu> histo, no go
[09:51] <histo> ben1253: I thought you said you tried it already.
[09:51] <histo> kubuntu: What happened
[09:52] <Guest85795> histo, same as usual- boots up, bails when you would see those 5 icons kinda glow or whatever.
[09:52] <Guest85795> the hard dirve etc..
[09:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: if said person did not know you absolutely need superusre priv's to install software said person does not need full root.
[09:52] <ben1253> histo:but i tried it in with linux mint? not ubuntu 12.04 or higher!
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: you want something nice for a low-end machine?
[09:53] <kurteknikk> Hi,  i am running into this issue: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate -- error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '....
[09:53] <kurteknikk> I had a look around and everybody says it's a wrong password for the user: debian-sys-maint but the password is right... Any idea what else can be wrong ?
[09:53] <histo> salz212: sory ils typoed
[09:53] <salz212> okay its installing.
[09:53] <histo> Guest85795: What do you mean bails?
[09:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kurteknikk: what is the actual issue?
[09:53] <llutz> kurteknikk: did you test that password? because it really is the cause of that error in most cases
[09:54] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:what kind of nice? like roseberry pi!!!
[09:54] <kurteknikk> llutz, yes i really checked the password it's 100% correct, that's why i'm asking here
[09:54] <jetole> Hey guys. I just got curious about what some of the heavy weight in terms of disk size apt/dpks packages might be based on another thread I was reading where someone just mentioned some he knew of off the top of his head. Anyways. Is there a command I can run to list all packages in the repos my system is using and show size?
[09:54] <llutz> kurteknikk: sry that  i asked ;)
[09:54] <kurteknikk> Us3r_Unfriendly, the actual issue is that i get this email daily that it goes wrong i wannt to fix it
[09:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: something purdy but lightweight, and familiar to old versions of ubuntu
[09:55] <kurteknikk> llutz, no no i understand, i asked that to myself to be sure i'm not doing something stupid
[09:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kurteknikk: in crontab: 2>&1
[09:55] <jetole> i.e. not just the packages I have installed though I don't know how to view either apt size or installed size on those either based on dpkg/apt application names
[09:56] <ben1253> ntzrmttihu777:do have something in your mind?please suggest it for me!
[09:56] <histo> ben1253: what happened in linux mint that didn't work?
[09:56] <Guest85795> histo, sorry- lol ill change my name
[09:56] <histo> Guest85795: /nick subcool
[09:56] <histo> SubCool: what happens when it bails? You mean it dumps to busybox?
[09:56] <SubCool> histo, correct
[09:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: you may be interested in pinguy os using the fallback mode.
[09:57] <salz212> i think i need to create/make ext4 filesystem as I dont see any such thinf already there
[09:57] <amcsi> how do I use my gnome network manager vps's in command line?
[09:57] <histo> SubCool: Now that you understand lvm. When you were installing before did you mount / /var /home /tmp to the right places?
[09:57] <SubCool> histo, yea
[09:57] <ben1253> histo:i was unable to play video,no graphic effect,white strips on shutdown and start screen!!
[09:57] <histo> SubCool: okay I'm assuming your /etc/fstab is probably jacked up. We have to take a look at that.
[09:58] <amcsi> I'm not in front of my ubuntu machine where I could connect to the vps with the icon next to the clock. I have to do it remotely through SSH and CLI. How do I do it?
[09:58] <SubCool> histo, ok- ill get into it.. give me a few
[09:58] <histo> ben1253: Depends could ahve been an issue with that kernel.
[09:58] <histo> SubCool: the /etc/fstab from the /  not the USB...
[09:58] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:i have heared it first time,would please tell about it more?
[09:59] <ben1253> histo:i tried,but no remedy!
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: penguy os is a respun version of ubuntu, in other words it is ubuntu but customized already. it has a login version that is low on needs and runs quite well on my machine.
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: no unity.
[10:00] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595529 - could u check this
[10:00] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:does it play videos?
[10:01] <histo> SubCool: looks good pastebinit /mnt/etc/fstab   or if you chroot you'd have to install pastebinit
[10:02] <SubCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595534
[10:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: it comes with all the audiovideo codecs pre-installed, so it can play most everything already.
[10:02] <litropy> What's it called again when you distribute CPU work to multiple boxes?
[10:02] <litropy> not GPU
[10:03] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,i am searching about it,and i found it as "pinguy",do i am correct?
[10:03] <micjan02> are there any tools that use bluetooth PBAP?
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: that should be it.
[10:03] <histo> SubCool: ahh you messed up and mounting var
[10:04] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:what about xfce and lxde version?
[10:04] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595536
[10:04] <SubCool> histo, ill see about fixing it
[10:04] <histo> SubCool: sudo umount /mnt/var && sudo mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var /mnt/var
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I'm just telling you about it because its similar to the ubuntu you are using right now.
[10:05] <histo> SubCool: whats the output of blkid
[10:06] <histo> SubCool: on the usb not the chroot
[10:06] <histo> SubCool: sudo blkid
[10:06] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595538/
[10:07] <SubCool> histo, that did it - :/
[10:07] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:i know..
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I don't know about xfce very much, or lxde. I tryed both as lubuntu and xubuntu, and they were not to my liking. its all about personal preference.
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I cut my linux teeth on lucid, and I liked how it worked, so I stuck with that setup.
[10:08] <sgo11> hi, how to modify "GNU GRUB  version 2.00-7ubuntu11" top line of the grub? by googling, some people suggest to compile grub manually. but how to do that? thanks.
[10:09] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,does pinguy have their own repo?
[10:09] <histo> SubCool: you can try replacing the uuid of the /dev/mapper/myvg in your /etc/fstab.  So where it now says /dev/mapper/Precise-Blah  it would say be3705de-79...  Someone else may have to chime in as to why they aren't getting mounted on boot. But this I believe is the issue right now.
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: like I said, pinguy is ubuntu. it has the ubuntu repos, and a few other ones.
[10:10] <histo> SubCool: Not sure if the default is to use uuid or dev when you are using LVM
[10:10] <SubCool> histo, let me read it- i was pretty involved when making that files..
[10:11] <histo> SubCool: It should work though with /dev/mapper being in fstab
[10:11] <SubCool> histo, its just late, and my head is spinning
[10:11] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,thanks for help.
[10:11] <SubCool> wait- ... it should be there to begin with
[10:12] <SubCool> give me a few- .. brb..
[10:12] <histo> SubCool: I just had an epiphany though.  Let me check something
[10:13] <tajamul> HI
[10:13] <tajamul> CAN ANYBODY HELP
[10:13] <Touhou11> tajamul: Yes, but I can't quite hear you
[10:13] <tajamul> i am new to ubuntu
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> !caps | tajamul
[10:14] <histo> SubCool: can you paste bin the output of df -h
[10:14] <tajamul> though installed it sometime back
[10:15] <SubCool> histo, chroot?
[10:15] <histo> SubCool: no
[10:15] <tajamul> i am getting the problem with firefox as it shows connection reset while opening many webpages to it also opens some
[10:15] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595553/
[10:16] <janisozaur> tajamul, perhaps your MTU is too large?
[10:16]  * cfhowlett ... MTU?
[10:16] <tajamul> has firefox got virus though used to run ok
[10:16] <spenc25> Hey I want to check that this cron will run every 2 min:
[10:16] <spenc25> */2 * * * * /home/me/bin/script.sh
[10:16] <SubCool> histo, my fstab looks fine :
[10:16] <spenc25> I want to make sure I am not making it go like every 2 sec or something
[10:16] <janisozaur> cfhowlett, tajamul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
[10:16] <tajamul> is there some antivirus for ubuntu
[10:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: yes, clamav
[10:16] <tajamul> mtu means
[10:17] <histo> SubCool: You can almost fit everything in your /dev/mapper/MyVG-Home on another partition. Like where /dev/sda1-3 are...
[10:17] <janisozaur> tajamul, see my previous message. also, that doesn't sound like a virus
[10:17] <zAo^> spenc25, * 2 * * * * = every 2 mins
[10:17] <histo> SubCool: Yeah that's why I don't understand why you are getting dropped to busy box.
[10:17] <tajamul> thanks
[10:17] <spenc25> zAo^: thanks
[10:17] <Touhou11> zAo^: Incorrect
[10:17] <janisozaur> zAo^, no it does not
[10:17] <spenc25> ?
[10:17] <zAo^> :O
[10:18] <Touhou11> spenc25: You were correct with */2
[10:18] <spenc25> Touhoull: thanks for the correction
[10:18] <histo> SubCool: you sure you installed lvm2 and did those echo commands?
[10:18] <SubCool> yep
[10:18] <zAo^> thanks Touhou11 , sorry spenc25
[10:18] <SubCool> no errors too
[10:19] <histo> SubCool: alright chroot then aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:19] <tajamul> though linux has got immense possiblities to lead but as of now we have to waste a lot of time to rectify problems should be easy to use
[10:20] <histo> !av | tajamul
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: the fault is not with linux. its using a windows mentality with linux that causes most issue.
[10:20] <anonymous_> ih , i need help
[10:21] <janisozaur> !ask | anonymous_
[10:21] <cfhowlett> anonymous_: state the issue with details
[10:21] <Touhou11> tajamul: Sounds like the problem is between the chair and the keyboard
[10:21] <BrixSat> Hello
[10:22] <tajamul> i know there is no problem with linux but should be easy to use for a computer illiterate like me should reach the common man
[10:22] <anonymous_> what?
[10:22] <SubCool> histo, i cant install aptitude :/ i have a bunch of error'd installs
[10:22] <cfhowlett> BrixSat: greetings
[10:22] <histo> SubCool: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: I am the common man. all I know about computing I learned after switching to linux
[10:22] <histo> SubCool: no sudo sorry
[10:23] <tajamul> tried to install opera many times but fails
[10:23] <BrixSat> How do i get the output of a awk into an array? like i have $1 to $n but i donw know what n might be and i wish i could put it in an array or in some kind of foreach
[10:23] <histo> BrixSat: ask in #linux
[10:23] <BrixSat> thks
[10:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> BrixSat: or #bash
[10:23] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595563
[10:23] <tajamul> kindly rectify this can any do this remotly
[10:24] <cfhowlett> tajamul: we are getting somewhat off-topic here.  Perhaps best to have this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <histo> wth
[10:24] <histo> SubCool: was that from aptitude or apt-get?
[10:24] <SubCool> apt-get
[10:25] <andreasEr> Does anyone have a good answer to why the brightness of my laptop turns down to the bottom each time i boot? Asus K56cm
[10:25] <SubCool> histo, how do i clear those from apt-get?
[10:25] <SubCool> autoremove isnt doing it
[10:25] <tajamul> sir am having problem with firefox so am trying to install opera kindly help to rectify problem with firefox or install opera
[10:25] <histo> SubCool: how do you clear what?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> tajamul: install opera via the software center if I'm not mistaken ...
[10:26] <SubCool> histo, remove those error'd installs
[10:26] <histo> SubCool: apt-get clean && apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:26] <tajamul> perhaps it is not available there now
[10:27] <histo> !info opera
[10:27] <SubCool> histo, haha- nope
[10:27] <histo> !search opera | tajamul
[10:27] <histo> !find opera | tajamul
[10:27] <histo> SubCool: Same error?
[10:27] <SubCool> histo, yep
[10:27] <histo> tajamul: you will have to install opera from the opera site then.
[10:27] <histo> tajamul: or ppa
[10:27] <histo> SubCool: wth did you do to this system.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> tajamul: see the instructions on the opera site ...
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, apt-get upgrade :/
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, ill just reinstall it again- idc
[10:28] <tajamul> downloaded deb package failed to install perhaps was incomplete so tried to redownload but failed so am again downloading it
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, the only thing i care about is /home
[10:28] <histo> ubottu: paste the /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: lawl
[10:28] <histo> SubCool: paste the /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:29] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: didn't type s and hit tab
[10:29] <janisozaur> tajamul, got any erros? is there sha1sum available?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: and it defaulted to ubottu ?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: oh, you mean you meant su<tab> but did u<tab>
[10:30] <tajamul> will let u know am installing a new downloaded package
[10:31] <oskude> hi, what happened to ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso, i cant find it on any mirror anymore?!
[10:31] <tajamul> shows problem wrong architecture amd 64 help
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: direct or torrent?
[10:32] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: direct
[10:32] <epitamizor> how come changing init runlevels from 1 to 2 is stalling my system, its completely unresponsive
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso
[10:32] <dr_willis> !runlevels
[10:32] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595581/
[10:33] <tajamul> the opera file is in home downloads and is complete but is failing to install
[10:33] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks! now i wonder why its not on the mirrors that are linked on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[10:33] <oskude> it was on the mirrors a week ago
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: strange. I always go to releases.ubuntu.com/codename
[10:34] <tajamul> anybody help yaar
[10:34] <dr_willis> tajamul: how are yiu installing it
[10:34] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: and i just follow the links on ubuntu.com :P
[10:34] <zAo^> tajamul, what is the error? Did you download it for the right architecture? 32bit/64bit?
[10:34] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: but what ever. thanks for the link!
[10:34] <histo> SubCool: I'm at a complete loss as to why you can't reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:35] <histo> SubCool: perhaps someone else can chime in
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, its because of all those hanging files..
[10:35] <cfhowlett> tajamul: is your computer a 64 bit computer?
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, ill just resinstall the system :
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, and ill follow that guide with the lvm.
[10:35] <tajamul> wrong architecture 64 amd no it is 32 bit
[10:35] <dr_willis> why use lvm? ;)
[10:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: no clue, I ignored SubCool for whatever reason.
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: oh yeah, I remember.
[10:36] <nearst> hi ppls
[10:36] <TaMpeReN> ntzrmtthihu777: wats subcool?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> tajamul: so download the 32 bit version for your 32 bit computer ...
[10:37] <SubCool> dr_willis, someone helped me migrate my system a while back... a
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> TaMpeReN: a person.
[10:37] <TaMpeReN> ntzrmtthihu777:  lol saw him haha , i googled thinking its a app or something
[10:38] <dr_willis> migrate from what? SubCool  you have been fighting lvm for what now? 4 days
[10:38] <SubCool> dr_willis, yep :/
[10:38] <tajamul> where will i find it as the opera site auto slects the package fit for the system
[10:38] <SubCool> dr_willis, originally it was a resolve so that i could install a few OS's on one box..
[10:38] <cfhowlett> tajamul: "other versions"
[10:39] <dr_willis> opera seems falling out if favor these days.
[10:40] <cfhowlett> dr_willis: agreed.  FF seems to be driving the serious innovation ...
[10:40] <anew> hey stupid question but what isthe ~ directory ?
[10:40] <zAo^> anew, your homedir
[10:40] <cfhowlett> anew: /home
[10:40] <anew> root ?
[10:40] <dr_willis> gone back to ff here also. g.chrome had annoying limits on their extensions.
[10:40] <anew> ah
[10:40] <KayAteChef>  /home/username
[10:41] <anew> ok thanks
[10:41] <cfhowlett> anew: no.
[10:41] <anew> ?
[10:41] <anew>  /home or /home/username
[10:41] <anew> ?
[10:41] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <zAo^> anew, /home/anew
[10:41] <dr_willis> ~ is your users home
[10:41] <epitamizor> mkay so chnaged from init to telinit
[10:41] <histo> SubCool: I have to go get some sleep hopefully someone else can get you the rest of the way home.
[10:41] <dr_willis> its a bash shortcut
[10:41] <zAo^> ~root = /root etc
[10:42] <SubCool> histo, nah- i have to sleep to- i was over doing it myself
[10:42] <dr_willis> no zAo^
[10:42] <SubCool> histo, im just going to reinstall 12.1 - and fix what i can
[10:42] <anew> wait inside /home is nothing tho
[10:42] <histo> SubCool: k good luck.
[10:42] <anew> and there should be some files in there
[10:42] <histo> SubCool: just don't format /home
[10:42] <SubCool> histo, thanks- for the help
[10:42] <Apoptosis> Hi. I need to reinstall grub because I installed Win7.  Suggestions on how to do this?
[10:42] <dr_willis> user bob    it would be  /home/bob
[10:42] <SubCool> histo, :)  i know
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !grub|Apoptosis:
[10:43] <anew> so i'm in ~ on the cli
[10:43] <anew> but i'm ftp into /home
[10:43] <anew> and there is nothing?
[10:43] <anew> wait looks like ~ is /root
[10:43] <dr_willis> anew: you ftp to /home/yourusername
[10:44] <KayAteChef> are you logged in as root?
[10:44] <dr_willis> if you ftp in as bob   it would be /home/bob
[10:44] <dr_willis> dont login directly as root...
[10:44] <anew> yes i'm ftp as root
[10:44] <anew> but i see it now as /root
[10:44] <dr_willis> thats even worse.. ;-)
[10:45] <KayAteChef> yes root user's dir is /root
[10:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> anew: if you are root and in ~ then you are in root's $HOME
[10:45] <anew> ok
[10:45] <anew> thx
[10:49] <zAo^> dr_willis, Sorry, what? ~<user>  = users homedir. ~ is current user?
[10:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: no, ~ is the homedir, for root its /root, for any othe user its /home/$USER
[10:50] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, didnt I say that? :$
[10:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: not quite. you called ~ the current user, it is not. it is that users home
[10:51] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, ... Yeah. I meant that.
[10:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know a way to get the total size of all files in a directory from the command line?
[10:52] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, du -m (or -sm) /path
[10:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: thankya, cuz i have so many files in this one dir nautilus does not know what to say, lol
[10:53] <zAo^> omg
[10:53] <tajamul123> still not able to install opera
[10:54] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, there are limits to du (or the shell for that matter) too
[10:54] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: details...
[10:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: I understand that.
[10:55] <tajamul123> architecture error amd 64
[10:56] <llutz> tajamul123: "uname -m" says what?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: hey, taj.  Did you NOT state that your computer is 32 bit?  64 bit will NOT run.  get the 32 bit version.  it's on the site!
[10:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: heh, dontcha hate that.
[10:57] <tajamul123> but the site auto selects the package fit for ur computer
[10:57] <dr_willis> so its
[10:57] <dr_willis> ..wrong...
[10:57] <tajamul123> 32 bit package is not available perhaps
[10:58] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: please read this time..  you can select the OTHER VERSIONS available on the download page
[10:58] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: and 32 bit was there when I verified 20 minutes ago ...
[10:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul123: machines can make mistakes.
[10:58] <llutz> tajamul123: http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux-i386&ver=12.14&local=y
[10:59] <llutz> tajamul123: guess what "Show other versions" mean if you see the one offered to you is the wrong one
[11:00] <Touhou11> tajamul123: If you're not very good with computers, you're probably better off staying with Windows or Mac
[11:00] <vlad_starkov> Question: I'm newbie to Ubuntu server. What version should I install for using next 2 years: 12.04.2LTS or 12.10?
[11:00] <dr_willis> it wants me to download the android version...  ;-)
[11:00] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:01] <cfhowlett> vlad_starkov: 12.04 will be supported for 5 years ... LTS
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !lts|vlad_starkov:
[11:01] <Touhou11> vlad_starkov: LTS - often when you download enterprise type software, they only support LTS releases
[11:02] <vlad_starkov> Touhou11: is there big difference between 12.04 and 12.10?
[11:02] <zAo^> vlad_starkov, no
[11:02] <mote> Hi. I'm trying to get at switch working with chromium-browser, "--app-window-size=w,h". but can get it to work. Where go i go to get help?
[11:02] <vlad_starkov> zAo^: so if I'll buy the book about 12.10 it's ok for me to use 12.04?
[11:02] <ikonia> mote: does it support that flag ?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> mote: #google or #chromium might be channels
[11:03] <mote> ikonia i sez several places..
[11:03] <ikonia> eG: 120,80
[11:03] <ikonia> mote: and I assume you're actually using numbers instead of w,h
[11:03] <zAo^> vlad_starkov, most of it should do, yes. But why not upgrade?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: chrome or chromium are in the ubuntu software center if you wanted to try that browser ...
[11:03] <mote> cfhowlett trying already
[11:03] <ikonia> mote: where does it say it supports that flag
[11:03] <mote> ikonia yes ;-)
[11:04] <ikonia> mote: sorry to ask the obvious question, but it's a common mistake
[11:04] <mote> ikonia "chromium-browser --app-window-size=400,400"
[11:04] <mote> ikonia i know. ;-)
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: those options you had me pas to du, what did they di
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> *do
[11:04] <vlad_starkov> zAo^: what do you mean about upgradeing?
[11:04] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, -s = summary, -m = in megabytes. Other than that: man du
[11:05] <mote> ikonia it is probably something like that i'm doing wrong anyway
[11:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: ah, so I have 69+ gigs of text files
[11:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> *6.9
[11:05] <ikonia> mote: just looking for an official google page showing it supports that option
[11:05] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, omg!?
[11:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: part of a $50 job.
[11:06] <tajamul123> sorry didnt know i386 means 32 bit
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> i need help i wanna access a shared folder on windows from ubuntu
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> how to ?
[11:07] <mote> ikonia there must be some way to define windows size anyway
[11:07] <ikonia> mote: I'm sure there is, I just can't see your option as a valid parameter
[11:07] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: REALLY suggest you install a browser via the software center ...
[11:07] <mjayk> TaMpeReN do you know what samba is ?
[11:07] <ikonia> mote: can you do a chromium-browser --help see what the options are
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> nope lemme google
[11:08] <mjayk> TaMpeReN ok sure it is the program or service that manages network shares
[11:09] <mote> ikonia there's ALOT of switches.. ;-)
[11:09] <ikonia> mote: no doubt
[11:10] <mote> ikonia it does not say it does
[11:11] <VinceThePrince> is it possible to alias an path? like bla = "~/sites/bla/" ? because that does not work
[11:12] <mote> ikonia would i need to use a gtk switch?
[11:13] <Kartagis> VinceThePrince: alias bla='cd ~/sites/bla' would work
[11:14] <llutz> VinceThePrince: not an alias, but you'd define a var "bla = "~/sites/bla/"   " echo $bla"
[11:15] <VinceThePrince> Kartagis, llutz thanks !
[11:16] <mote> ikonia gtg. thanks anyway.
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> does /root even really need a Desktop dir?
[11:17] <Onixs> is this the proper way to make an ISO bootable > mkisofs -o /NEW.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -J CUSTOM_ISO_FOLDER
[11:17] <Touhou11> Of course, for when the root user logs in
[11:18] <rndbit> ntzrmtthihu777, i dont think anyone runs x session on root, unless you are on backtrack or something
[11:18] <mojtaba> Hi, how can I change the $ in the command prompt to #?
[11:18] <Onixs> hey Kartagis :)
[11:18] <Onixs> wazup man
[11:18] <mojtaba> I mean change the user to root
[11:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: with all due respect your opinions on running on root are not what i want to hear
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !root|mojtaba:
[11:18] <llutz> "sudo -i"
[11:18] <llutz> mojtaba:
[11:19] <rndbit> anyone know how to unbind window key? i think some left-over service keeps it bound and cant use it in kde properly.
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> rndbit: no, no backtrack on this machine atm.
[11:19] <Kartagis> nothing much, you Onixs?
[11:19] <Onixs> Kartagis : yup :)
[11:19] <Onixs> good
[11:19] <deaw12> .
[11:19] <mojtaba> I use su and then gave my password which I use with sudo, but It gave me authentication failure
[11:19] <Touhou11> Some people just can't handle the power of root I guess
[11:19] <ikonia> mojtaba: don't use su
[11:19] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I do that?
[11:19] <ikonia> mojtaba: the command is sudo -i
[11:19] <rndbit> mojtaba, i had this, check keyboard layout
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: why?
[11:19] <mojtaba> ikonia: what should I do?
[11:20] <Onixs> got a little proble how to make it bootable
[11:20] <Onixs>  mkisofs -o /NEW.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -J CUSTOM_ISO_FOLDER
[11:20] <ikonia> mojtaba: the root account is looked, so su will not work.
[11:20] <llutz> mojtaba: start reading what people answer to you
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: should be sudo su, actualy\
[11:20] <mojtaba> I want to navigate through lost+found directory
[11:20] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: no it shouldn't
[11:20] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: it it should not
[11:20] <Onixs> but can't!
[11:20] <ikonia> mojtaba: sudo -i is the correct command
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: no need for root access on this box. not my bactrack machine.
[11:21] <mojtaba> ikonia: thanks
[11:22] <Soham_> hi
[11:23] <linusoleander_> Is there a way make a script block?
[11:23] <linusoleander_> I don't want it to exist
[11:23] <ikonia> linusoleander_: sorry, could you try to explain what you want again please.
[11:24] <linusoleander_> I want to run a script that doesn't exist
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: why ?
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: how can you expect to run something that doesn't exist ?
[11:24] <linusoleander_> sleep 5 for example returns exit status 0 after 5 sec
[11:24] <linusoleander_> I don't want that
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: what do you want then ?
[11:25] <linusoleander_> I want it to execute some code then block and not exit unit ctrl-c
[11:25] <llutz> linusoleander_: read -p "Press any key to exit..."
[11:25] <linusoleander_> llutz: That works, thanks!
[11:26] <llutz> ... where is my anykey....
[11:28] <TaMpeReN> how can i access a shared window's file using ubunti
[11:28] <TaMpeReN> samba seems to work otherway around
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> TaMpeReN: you can use samba on ubuntu, not sure the method but its doable
[11:29] <llutz> TaMpeReN: smbclient you need, not samba
[11:30] <IDROFOX> can i add format option in right click menu for all drives in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: i did that too
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: smb://192.168.196.1/Shows
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> but it wont open
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: after installing
[11:31] <TaMpeReN> llutz: i ping that computer its working
[11:31] <Touhou11> IDROFOX: Yes
[11:31] <llutz> TaMpeReN: smbclient -L //192.168.196.1
[11:31] <mjayk> TaMpeReN you  have to configure stuff like your worgroup etc using smb
[11:32] <icesword> !ime
[11:32] <IDROFOX> Touhou11:Like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/236137/how-to-add-right-click-format-option-to-a-disk-icon-in-the-launcher ?
[11:32] <icesword> !input method
[11:33] <TaMpeReN> llutz: that worked
[11:33] <TaMpeReN> llutz: but now got the workgroup thing
[11:34] <icesword> !ficixt
[11:36] <tajamul01236> finally suceeded in installing opera mini
[11:36] <burtonium> hi everyone, I am using pyrit for wifi password testing :D with nvidia gpu. After running pyrit and stopping it, graphics get changed almost like sephia mode? anyone have any clue why is this happening? or had the same problem?
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: wrong channel
[11:36] <burtonium> why? i am using ubuntu
[11:37] <burtonium> otherwise i would ask on backtrack
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: still, that is not what we do here.
[11:37] <burtonium> i don't get it? what part is the problematic question?
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone uses those tools on anything but backtrack.
[11:38] <burtonium> pyrit? or nvidia gpu? or wifi pass testing?
[11:38] <burtonium> because i can
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: all three, in fact.
[11:38] <burtonium> i haven't seen you here before really so i don't trust you
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: says the wannabe cracker.
[11:39] <burtonium> you wanna be cracker?
[11:39] <mjayk> burtonium I dont know the answer to your question but I dont see a problem with it.  I had a similar problem with ATI on F17 whenever I ran fullscreen programs and exited them all my fonts would disappear
[11:40] <mjayk> so not really similar differnt card and differnt os lol
[11:40] <one> Bry8Star{EB: hi
[11:40] <burtonium> @mjayk: ty for info
[11:40] <burtonium> mjayk: ty
[11:41] <Bry8Star{EB> hi , one
[11:42] <faLUCE> hello. I have a windows 8 guest on virtualbox under linux (ubuntu, with pulseaudio). when playing audio, I hear some clicks. Is there a way to improve that?
[11:42] <fishsponge> how can I tell the "find" command to search /dir/ for something, but tell it not to search through /dir/snapshots/ ?
[11:43] <fishsponge> for example, I have    /dir/a/    /dir/b/    /dir/c/    and    /dir/snapshots/     - I want to search /dir/ for something, but not go through all the snapshots directory at all - it will take way too long...
[11:46] <Capprentice> Hey anyone knows how get aero efferts on Ubuntu 12 ?
[11:46] <tajamul01236> should i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: most come with unity.
[11:46] <Capprentice> Nope.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: no.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: what sort of effects
[11:46] <mjayk> Capprentice do you mean how to manage the visual effects  ?
[11:46] <tajamul01236> why
[11:47] <Capprentice> Like when I hover an application icon on launcher panel, it has to display the contentents.
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: because its only supported for another year or so. 12.04 is supported for the next 4 years
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: ah I remember that.
[11:47] <idrofox> ubuntu 13.04 for pc released ?
[11:48] <mjayk> idrofox yes
[11:48] <llutz> nonsense, 13.04  ~ april 2013
[11:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: isn't it still a bit early
[11:48] <idrofox> mjayk:but it's not in download section of offical ubuntu site ?
[11:49] <tajamul01236> thanks but im a home pc user so dosents matter will upgrade again when another lts ver releases later  give me other reasons
[11:49] <llutz> idrofox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[11:49] <mjayk> idrofox imy bad its not yet what llutz said
[11:49] <Touhou11> Will 13.04 have a new default theme?
[11:49] <idrofox> ok thx
[11:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: ok, because 12.10 is not lts
[11:50] <tajamul01236> compare 12.04 and 12.10 capability wise
[11:50] <s9iper1> can we use ultra iso to make bootbale ubuntu usb ???
[11:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: from what os
[11:50] <idrofox> can i install updates in ubuntu iso without redownloading it again ?
[11:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> idrofox: you mean 12.04.2?
[11:51] <s9iper1> ntzrmtthihu777: windows 7
[11:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: I used unetbootin to do mine
[11:52] <s9iper1> unetbootin works finr ?
[11:52] <s9iper1> fine
[11:52] <idrofox> i mean that when i installed ubuntu 12.10 from iso, i updated my ubuntu using software updater. Now i want to put those new installed updates from installed ubuntu to ubuntu iso ?
[11:52] <s9iper1> ?
[11:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: it worked fine for me.
[11:52] <s9iper1> ok
[11:53] <mjayk> idrofox you want to create a new iso of you install with the updates installed ?
[11:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: although as you can fit the whole ubuntu iso on a plain cd-rw I dont see why not use that.
[11:53] <idrofox> mjayk:yes i want to created a new iso with all new updates installed so i don't have to download them again next time i install ubuntu again..
[11:54] <mjayk> you can use dd pathofcurrentinstall pathtonewiso to create an iso of ur hdd
[11:54] <mjayk> or ur install depending on how you setup the parameters
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: would that work if he was inside the current install?
[11:55] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 not to my knowage no
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: then it would be a good idea to pass that info along
[11:55] <idrofox> hmm i will try thanks
[11:56] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 i assume a basic level of competence / the ability to google
[11:56] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 so I would say it was good info to pass.  Cheers for your input though
[11:58] <jery>  :) hello
[11:59] <rmannibucau> hi guys
[11:59] <rmannibucau> is it the right channel to ask package (deb)?
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: close enough. what you want?
[12:00] <rmannibucau> i would like to ask for a tomee package (since tomcat package exists tomee one would be enough to do)
[12:01] <peco> #channels
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: did you ever just google for tomee launchpad?
[12:01] <dr_willis> !find tomee
[12:01] <kurteknikk> Hi, i earlier asked about the issue in logrotate and somebody suggested to add  2>&1 to the command. Does anybody know why the logrotate for mysql is failing ?
[12:02] <rmannibucau> last time i didnt find anything
[12:02] <dr_willis> !ppa
[12:02] <dr_willis> search the ppas for it?
[12:03] <jery> what is that?
[12:03] <rmannibucau> ntzrmtthihu777, IIRC tomcat is in default packages so wondered if tomee could be
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: no clue about tomee or tomcat. I gott go, time to eat.
[12:04] <rmannibucau> have a nice lunch
[12:04] <davis776> hello, why this settings does not work? disk never goes to stand by. It should not be used - can I check it somewhere? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[12:06] <Capprentice> How to fix gnome-screenshot tool double flickering ?
[12:07] <Capprentice> its a known bug. Is there any workaround for this  ? I dont like flashing my screen two times after taking one screenshot
[12:07] <llutz> kurteknikk:  run "logrotate -dv -f /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server" and watch for issues
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> how can i clone a 1tb data drive with ubuntu to another empty drive?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> (as fast as possible)
[12:15] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Either dd or ddrescue for the whole drive or rsync for the mounted file systems.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tnx ill try with dd
[12:16] <vlt> lotuspsychje: If the file system is nearly completely filled use dd (or ddrescue which is more efficient), otherwise consider mounting and just copying files (with rsync).
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> vlt: would this be the right command: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[12:18] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tnx mate
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: how fast would that clone the drive?
[12:18] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Mind that the target drive should be at least as big as the source if you do it this way.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: yes its for excact 1tb mediadrive cloning all its content
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Speed depends on your system. About 100 MB/s I’d estimate.
[12:19] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: Quite fast, but be aware that if the drive has *any* badblocks on it the whole process will fail
[12:19] <dekroning> is it possible to also redirect all trafic destinationed port 80 to be rerouted via my transparent proxyserver running on localhost 8080 with ufw, or do I need to use iptables?
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: `fdisl -l /dev/sd?` should give you the exact sizes
[12:19] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: You'll be able to restart it from where it left off, but after doing some basic maths to compute where exactly it left off and where you restart it
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: *fdisk
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> Catkiller: its not for a system drive (both external mediaplayer drives
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> but ill clone them from ubuntu
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: Doesn't matter, you can still have badblocks on it
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: If you do, the whole "dd" process will exit, and you'll have to work around the badblock
[12:20] <calwig> hi what is the gnome manager for pgp?
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: ddrescue is usually recommended if you've got the slightest doubt about the health of the HD
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: well ill check the drive first with photorec
[12:21] <CatKiller> No need, you'd be wasting time
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> oh
[12:21] <CatKiller> either use "dd" if you're pretty sure the drive is still good
[12:21] <CatKiller> or use "ddrescue"
[12:21] <CatKiller> ddrescue does the same thing as dd
[12:22] <CatKiller> but with more focus on recovery (it allows errors)
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: ok tnx
[12:22] <CatKiller> In fact ddrescue is usually better because it's more aimed at recovery and duplication
[12:22] <CatKiller> Will do the same thing, at about the same speed as dd
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !info ddrescue > lotuspsychje
[12:22] <CatKiller> ddrescue indrive outdrive logfile
[12:23] <CatKiller> It's pretty good actually
[12:23] <CatKiller> dd is a bit ageing
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gddrescue > lotuspsychje
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: ok cool ill try that1
[12:24] <CatKiller> no worries
[12:24] <calwig> how do i see my keyring?
[12:26] <Taev> some one help me please, i installed ubuntu and now i can't boot to windows via grub
[12:26] <Taev> i select windows 7 loader, i get a windows repair thing, i try to rescue, it goes back to the same menu
[12:26] <Taev> when i try boot normally
[12:26] <Taev> it just restarts
[12:26] <Fanshawe> Hello everyone. I'm trying to use get_iplayer but only get 'rtmp server sent error' messages in return. The readout is frustratingly short, but I've put it on pastebin anyway: http://pastebin.com/NvQE5H0p
[12:27] <calwig> Taev, do you get the grub menu?
[12:27] <Taev> yes and its loading windows
[12:27] <Taev> but it says windows is damaged
[12:27] <calwig> what do you want to do, repair windows or get to linux?
[12:28] <artrei> hi all i think i'm missing /usr/bin/compiz file, how to fix this?
[12:28] <Taev> i can get to linux, i can't get to windows
[12:28] <Taev> this started after the ubuntu install
[12:28] <calwig> Taev, did ubuntu install on the same partition as windows?
[12:28] <Taev> i created 2 partitions on the same drive
[12:29] <Taev> i used to have the MBR for windows on a separate HD
[12:29] <Taev> but i got lazy
[12:29] <calwig> Taev, have you pressed F8 in Windows to repair?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Taev: so a dual boot, not windows installer/wubi ... right?
[12:29] <Taev> yes it says loading files
[12:29] <Taev> then back to repair screen
[12:29] <Taev> no matter how many times i click repair
[12:29] <jony> in Double Commander how can be set a network share shortcut?
[12:29] <Taev> when i click boot normally
[12:29] <Taev> the system reboots
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Taev: try reinstalling grub ...
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !recovery|taev
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !grub|taev
[12:30] <Taev> i can boot ubuntu just fine
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Taev: ignore the first factoid
[12:30] <Taev> its messed up windows
[12:30] <Taev> windows told me to come here
[12:30] <calwig> Taev, so ubuntu is working just fine, but windows is screwed, then it isnt a grub issue is it cfhowlett ?
[12:30] <calwig> ah
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Taev: of course they did .... boot the windows cd and repair.  then reinstall grub
[12:30] <calwig> ignore
[12:31] <calwig> yeah what i would do
[12:31] <calwig> cfhowlett, what is the keyring in kubuntu?
[12:31] <calwig> no one is answering in #kubuntu
[12:31] <calwig> keyring daemon
[12:32] <cfhowlett> calwig: keyring is keyring as I understand it ... distro agnositc utility
[12:32] <artrei> anyone know how to fix if /usr/bin/compiz missing?
[12:33] <calwig> i mean what is the gui app to import/export keys
[12:33] <cfhowlett> calwig: thinking
[12:33] <calwig> Oran, servus
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: should appear on your system menu - possibly settings ...
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: as I am on xubuntu, IDK
[12:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, cuz boy i cant find it, i presume i can use a gnome manager, which should be the same
[12:34] <calwig> okies
[12:34] <fatninja> I hear a microphone crackling sound , my voice is ok but there is also a disturbing noise, which on Windows it is not present. I am using Ubuntu 12.10
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: sorry
[12:34] <fatninja> Anyone experienced this ? Or knows a solution ?
[12:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, thanks, np
[12:36] <dr_willis> could be driver issues fatninja  - checked the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact chipset?
[12:37] <jony> I need help with Double Commander and network shares
[12:38] <dr_willis> in what way?
[12:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> and back
[12:40] <fatninja> dr_willis, it's similar to https://friendly.ubuntu.com/12.04/Gigabyte%20Technology%20Co.,%20Ltd./GA-970A-UD3/A:CGyp:GsM:BEG:B8L:B8Lp:Zo:BHe:D5D:BWA/
[12:41] <fatninja> but still the crackling sound when I put the mic in :(
[12:41] <fatninja> I'm starting to think I don't know how to search
[12:43] <Fanshawe> Hi again everyone, I don't think I was clear at first so I'll post again. I'm trying to use get_iplayer but only get 'rtmp server sent error' messages in return. The readout is frustratingly short, but I've put it on pastebin anyway: http://pastebin.com/NvQE5H0p. Can anyone help me get the 'get_iplayer' command working? Or is there a support channel for specific stuff like this? Thank you.
[12:50] <zamba> i have a question about rsyslog.. i want to output the different log files for the different hosts into individual files.. how can i do this?
[12:50] <pseudonymous> Anyone know how to check what options a module is loaded with ? I hope to pass along some values to ZFS via modprobe and I'd like to assure myself that it gets picked up on.
[12:50] <llutz> zamba: http://www.rsyslog.com/article60/
[12:55] <sotelio> pseudonymous, maybe in /sys/module/{module}/parameters :s
[12:58] <pseudonymous> sotelio: yes! Cool (!) I didn't even know of that at all.. In my case it turned out that /sys/module/zfs/parameters has a file for each param containing its value
[12:59] <sotelio> :D
[13:00] <phaidros> I am having troubles an can't solve them, tried hours of howtos, but no go :/ .. trying to boot a VM with crypted lvm, all so far ok, tho the initrd just doesn't ask for the encryption key, it just hangs after: "udevd[88]: starting version 175" .. when using init=/bin/sh as kernel param I get to see the pw request. I thought with 12.04 this is more or less ootb? (I didnt use the installer, as this is a headless server)
[13:00] <Taev> anyone want to know how i fixed my issue?
[13:00] <Taev> for some reason Ubuntu keeps hanging when i have ACPI on
[13:00] <phaidros> any hints on where to looks if the pw request in initrd is missing?
[13:00] <Taev> so i disabled it in boot
[13:00] <Taev> Windows seems to require it
[13:00] <phaidros> Taev: ACPI has strange issues with some HW, I have servers which I have to boot with esotheric settings like "acpi=ht" ..
[13:01] <phaidros> is there any useful way to debug iinitrd?
[13:02] <phaidros> "error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon" is the one warning I get when using init=/bin/sh
[13:02] <c2tarun> What is difference between $0.0 and Free application in Ubuntu Software Center.
[13:03] <phaidros> c2tarun: I'd guess the license
[13:04] <Taev> so any fix then?
[13:04] <Taev> instead of having to shut ACPI off and turning it on whenever i want to dual boot
[13:05] <janisozaur> when compiling busybox (ARCH=arm), 'let' is missing, is there any config that enables this applet?
[13:05] <c2tarun> phaidros, what do you mean? with $0.0 also we don't have to pay anything, but we have to create some account and put our credit card details there.
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: acpi=ht helped on that specific hardware to *not* let the machine die in the reboot process :)
[13:06] <nicktopus> So I have my new install of Ubuntu and I plug in my Android phone and it shows up as a media device, fine. It only shows that I have 512 megabytes of storage left, where as really it is more like 10 gigabytes. Why is that?
[13:06] <Taev> well where do i put that?
[13:06] <phaidros> c2tarun: I honestly don't know
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: which ubuntu version?
[13:06] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  GPL license vs free comercial software
[13:06] <Taev> 12.4.02
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: check /etc/default/grub
[13:07] <phaidros> c2tarun: .. ^ what dr_willis said :)
[13:07] <c2tarun> dr_willis, ok, but isn't it little risky to give credit card details when even we don't have to pay.
[13:13] <MorpheuxNL> goodafternoon
[13:13] <davis776> how to check disk usage? external disk never goes stand by
[13:13] <MorpheuxNL> i build a ubuntu minimal + cinnamon install. this all went fine
[13:14] <MorpheuxNL> but on boot my network is not loading and when logged in i can get it up easily. could someone point me in the right direction to get it up on boot
[13:17] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to turn off the sound ubuntu makes when power is disconnected/connected from a laptop?
[13:17] <sonOfRa> I'm currently on a train, and the power outlets are seemingly not to stable, and it keeps disconnecting
[13:17] <rexwin_> davis776 , df -Th
[13:17] <sonOfRa> and I'm getting this rather loud and annoying beep about every other minute or two
[13:19] <Conqueror> Hello, we have a problem at wifi card. We laptop models is hp envy dv6-7200et. How do I unblock hard block on ubuntu?
[13:19] <Conqueror> http://askubuntu.com/questions/225898/how-do-i-turn-on-wireless-adapter-on-hp-envy-dv6-7200-under-ubuntu-any-version
[13:19] <MorpheuxNL> anyone any suggestions concerning my problem. i do see in my interfaces file that eth0 and wlan0 both are not mentioned
[13:23] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: how are you setting up the network config
[13:23] <one> MorpheuxNL: let me read the problem
[13:24] <fire> how can i change the language from cli ?
[13:24] <one> MorpheuxNL: there may be a hardware switch
[13:24] <one> MorpheuxNL: check the bios also
[13:25] <ikonia> one: ??? why would it be the bios
[13:25] <ikonia> one: he can up the interface when he logs in
[13:25] <ikonia> it's just not auto starting
[13:25] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, i just installed ubuntu minimal with cinnamon. and the thing is after it boots and i open up network settings i can connect to my wifi. but if i look in my interfaces file there is nothing mentioned about eth0 and wlan0 should it not be there
[13:25] <MorpheuxNL> one, i did check bios and it is always on
[13:25] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: how are you actually configuing it ? using network-manager ?
[13:25] <IzzoDizzo> MorpheuxNL, its handled by network manager
[13:25] <one> ikonia: oh it is only a boottime problem?
[13:26] <ikonia> IzzoDizzo: if you are using network manager, your interfaces file should be empty
[13:26] <ikonia> oops
[13:26] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, let me check what it is
[13:26] <ikonia> sorry that was for MorpheuxNL
[13:26] <IzzoDizzo> ikonia, thats what he says ? :)
[13:26] <IzzoDizzo> ah
[13:27] <MorpheuxNL> i think it is network-manager that i am using. it looks like cinnamon is using that to
[13:27] <backVil> quit
[13:27] <one> MindSpark: finally reinforcments have arrived
[13:27] <phaidros> sonOfRa: put headphone jack in ;)
[13:27] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: ok, so that is expected then
[13:27] <MindSpark> one: haha
[13:27] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: the interfaces file should be empty
[13:27] <MorpheuxNL> i also read the log and saw this line
[13:27] <MindSpark> what's the topic?
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> Mar  8 13:58:22 cinnamonbox NetworkManager[1928]:    SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0, iface: wlan0): no ifupdown configuration found.
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> i think it has to do with that
[13:28] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: looks like it's not got the config saves/stored
[13:28] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: which makes sense why you can set it up after you login
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> should i reinstall network-manager
[13:29] <one> MorpheuxNL: needs an ifup file written
[13:29] <MorpheuxNL> ok and how do i get an ifup file written?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:30] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: they should be in place for network manager already
[13:30] <hapster> anyone able to get nouveau working with bumblebee for Ubuntu 12.10?
[13:30] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: I suspect you have not got all the packages in place
[13:31] <one> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[13:32] <one> MindSpark: you pick
[13:32] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, how do i find out what i am missing
[13:33] <MindSpark> I am currently on a mac and I only have ssh access to an ubuntu server to check… not dure if it has network-manager running on it
[13:34] <one> MindSpark: better to not go with network manager it gives more binaries root access
[13:35] <MindSpark> never did much harm though, as long as it's the desktop system I guess?
[13:35] <one> MindSpark: I kept getting ssh mitm when connecting to an amazon VM
[13:35] <MindSpark> I don't even have it installed on the server, neither do I have X
[13:35] <MorpheuxNL> could it be dbus related
[13:35] <MindSpark> mitm?
[13:35] <one> MindSpark: man in the middle
[13:36] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, could it be dbus related?
[13:36] <MindSpark> oh… interesting...
[13:36] <one> MindSpark: amazon is part of the beast the whore rides on
[13:36] <kgalahassa> please, i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one count
[13:37] <MindSpark> one: elaborate on that. How did you have a mitm through network-manager?
[13:37] <one> MindSpark: no ssh, it kept dropping and doing a tracepath it would get rerouted
[13:37] <kgalahassa> it ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:38] <one> MindSpark: amazon needs to be destroyed
[13:38] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one countit ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:38] <MindSpark> one:  rerouted to where? I have a microinstance running too. Better get some protection
[13:39] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one countit ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:39] <one> MindSpark: one interruption in the connection and ther key is grabbed
[13:39] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one count  it ask me to enter a password to my login keyring
[13:40] <one> im like a raisin in the sun im running from deaths invasion
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !patience|kgalahassa:
[13:40] <one> its like locutus trying to get into the borg cube and enter a sleep command
[13:41] <MindSpark> but that must be a flaw in ssh, nothing to do with amazon. no?
[13:41] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, could it be dbus related
[13:42] <one> MindSpark: no but di you see the black friday behind the sceens, keep feeding the whore with plastic garbage
[13:42] <lmat> I attached a device to my ubuntu computer, but I don't see it showing up. (I'm running headless).
[13:42] <one> it makes one want to puke
[13:42] <lmat> I don't know much about this machine, and it has some configuration previously, so I'm doing a bit of investigative work.
[13:42] <one> crossroads one million miles whats the flashpoint
[13:43] <lmat> I look at fstab and it shows    uuid=8 (for brevity)  /  ext4 ...
[13:43] <one> someone is trolling a seal beyond the flashpoint of a nuclear reactor
[13:43] <lmat> uuid=f   none   swap    and   uuid=a   /root/backup   ext4   auto
[13:43] <one> not of the 7
[13:43] <lmat> So I look up those uuids in     /dev/disk/by-uuid
[13:43] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: is there anything to suggest it's dbus related ?
[13:43] <ikonia> lmat: nothing should be mounted on /root
[13:43] <lmat> ikonia: heh...
[13:43] <lmat> ikonia: why?
[13:44] <ikonia> lmat: because the root user is locked on Ubuntu, so nothing can get to it
[13:44] <TaMpeReN> anyone can help me with  smbclient
[13:44] <lmat> ikonia: (happily, I didn't put it there, so I'll deflect your wrath to the previous admin)
[13:44] <MindSpark> one: hehe. what would you recommend then?
[13:44] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 where a disk has partintioned as one partition for / and another for /home . I'm just wondering, can I safely shrink the / filesystem and enlarge the /home one?
[13:44] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, well it does not apper to be becauste it tries to load but there is no ifup file or something
[13:44] <TaMpeReN> i cant seems to access my desktop's shared file
[13:44] <one> ikonia: no theres things running as root its only the keyboard that cant get to it
[13:44] <ikonia> lmat: no wrath, just trying to help and make sure you don't lock your self out of the file system
[13:44] <ikonia> one: the root account is locked - please read what I said
[13:45] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: dbus does not provide the ifup files
[13:45] <lmat> ikonia: I'm in the /root/backup dir now... ls reveals  "lost+found  nohup.out  rsync
[13:45] <lmat> "
[13:45] <one> MindSpark: have to stand strong its coming to the final battle
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !OT|one:
[13:46] <mishke_> never, listen, NEVER, dont instalt ubuntu on netbooks
[13:46] <lmat> okay, so, checking the uuids reveals that  uuid=8  is md1, uuid=a is sdc1  and uuid=f is md0.
[13:46] <ikonia> mishke_: please stop with general warnings
[13:46] <mishke_> its lag many than windows on calculator
[13:46] <mishke_> ikonia, its mega lag, i panic!
[13:46] <lmat> ~panic
[13:46] <lmat> doh
[13:47] <ikonia> mishke_: that's fine - so "you" have a problem, we can try to help you, but pleaes don't tell people not to do it
[13:47] <cfhowlett> mishke_: see interface between keyboard and display
[13:47] <lmat> Is it odd that there's no sda or sdb in fstab?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> mishke_: for netbooks, lubuntu or xubuntu are optimized moreso than ubuntu
[13:47] <TaMpeReN> anyone knows how to resolve the smbclient issue i have
[13:47] <ikonia> lmat: no, you are using uuid's
[13:47] <mishke_> cfhowlett, canonical say's its work good on netbooks, i read is on official ubuntu website
[13:47] <TaMpeReN> i am getting this error
[13:48] <ikonia> lmat: what's the actual problem
[13:48] <mishke_> and this are lair, very very big lair
[13:48] <lmat> ikonia: I've connected a mass storage device (usb) to my ubuntu machine, but I don't know how to use it.
[13:48] <IzzoDizzo> lmat, it is prefered to use the uuid's in fstab
[13:48] <mishke_> sorry :(
[13:48] <lmat> IzzoDizzo: sure. I'm mapping uuids to /dev/ files.
[13:48] <ikonia> lmat: ok - so you should just be able to mount it
[13:49] <lmat> ikonia: What device? How do I find its uuid? what filesysteM?
[13:49] <lmat> To get the filesystem    df [devname]
[13:49] <mishke_> now i using my netbook with ubuntu for create USB Stick with Linux distro. recommend please soft. unetbootin dont helps
[13:49] <ikonia> lmat: ok - so "sudo fdisk -l" you should be able to see the new disk added, or "sudo blkid" to map the uuid's, you can see it get added as a physical device in dmessage
[13:49] <lmat> To get the uuid, go to /dev/disk/by-uuid and find its /dev/ file.
[13:49] <llutz> lmat: sudo blkid
[13:49] <cfhowlett> mishke_: lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for lower spec (e.g. netbooks) and older machines.  ubuntu is not.  doesn't mean it WON'T run ...
[13:49] <lmat> thanks, I'll work on this for a while :)
[13:50] <llutz> lmat: you won't get any filesysteminfo from df on devices not mountet
[13:50] <llutz> lmat: even on mounted fs you won't
[13:50] <cfhowlett> mishke_: use the startupdiskcreator that's installed with ubuntu ?
[13:50] <lmat> llutz: I can't verify that... I  `df sda` and sda isn't mounted, and it shows "none" as filesystem...
[13:50] <ikonia> lmat: please type "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in a pastebin
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> mishke_  ubuntu has its own bootable usb creator ans there's also multisystem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:50] <ikonia> lmat: we can solve this in 10 seconds
[13:52] <freedomrun> nautilus is really slowly becoming nothing..
[13:52] <llutz> lmat: "df --version"
[13:53] <lmat> http://pastie.org/private/8iqalshc3lmihjyil3vadq
[13:54] <lmat> there's cat fstab   and others... the last command is that which you asked for ikonia
[13:54] <mishke_> MonkeyDust, i wont burn ubuntu
[13:54] <ikonia> lmat: how big is your usb disk ?
[13:54] <llutz> lmat: df -T does, not df sda
[13:54] <mishke_> i need universal creator
[13:55] <lmat> ikonia: 1 gb maybe...
[13:55] <ikonia> lmat: your usb disk is 1GB?
[13:55] <ikonia> lmat: is it like pendrive type of disk ?
[13:55] <lmat> llutz: http://pastie.org/6420691
[13:55] <MindSpark> I am using awesome as a dm. That's the only thing that keeps my old netbook running
[13:56] <lmat> ikonia: It's a raid, made by drobo.
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> mishke_  those are the only usb creators I know of -- if none do the job for you, then maybe you are doing something wrong or the .iso is corrupt -- try the md5 check
[13:56] <lmat> ikonia: I think it has three 1gbs in it...which means it might be like 1.3 gigs or something.
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: your usb disk can't be raid
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: it's only 1 disk
[13:56] <lmat> ok
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: is this disk a pen drive ?
[13:56] <ikonia> or a physical hard disk ?
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: I don't know what a pen drive is, but the drobo has three (physical) hard drives in it.
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: oh, it has moving parts.
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: hang on
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: It's not one of those pocket flash drives
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: so you're not trying to connect a disk
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: you're trying to connect a usb raid array ?
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: yeah. But I think it's supposed to expose itself as a disk.
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: it will do
[13:57] <ikonia> ok this makes more sense
[13:58] <lmat> ikonia: There's already a makeshift raid on the computer. There are two disks that duplicate each other (I think they're sda and sdb)
[13:58] <ikonia> lmat: 17592.2  GB of data
[13:58] <ikonia> lmat: 17592.2
[13:58] <ikonia> /dev/sdd1
[13:59] <lmat> ikonia: df /dev/sdd (and /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdd2) reveal filesystem=none.
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat df won't work
[13:59] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 where a disk has partintioned as one partition for / and another for /home . I'm just wondering, can I safely shrink the / filesystem and enlarge the /home one?
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat: as you where told earlier....it's not mounted
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat: and there is no /dev/sdd2
[13:59] <llutz> lmat: btw, that shows you the info for the device /dev is mounted on, not for /dev/sda (compare size /dev/sda <-> number 1k-block)
[13:59] <lmat> ikonia: Oh, I see. It's worse than "it won't work". It's working...but working incorrectly, which is MUCH worse!!
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: ????
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: you just have to mount it
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: "sudo mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /tmp/test"
[14:00] <lmat> ikonia: Oh, I don't have to specify type...sheesh, my life just got a lot easier.
[14:00] <lmat> ikonia: ls /dev/sdd2   returns "/dev/sdd2"
[14:01] <mishke_> repeat please names of ubuntu for netbook
[14:01] <mishke_> lubuntu and?
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: why are you doing ls /dev/sdd2 - I just told you there is no sdd2
[14:01] <llutz> mishke_: xubuntu
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: I've just given you the command to use, please use it
[14:01] <lmat> ikonia: To say that there is a sd2...
[14:01] <lmat> ikonia: I did.
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: ok, so now df -h /tmp/test
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> foo357  yes, but not while it is running -- backup first and use a live cd or usb -- enlarging partitions without dataloss is possible, but very slow, I tried it
[14:02] <lmat> size 197M  avail 197M
[14:02] <ikonia> lmat: ok, so there you go, you've mounted that disk
[14:02] <ikonia> lmat: (or that partition to be clear)
[14:02] <foo357> Ok MonkeyDust, thanks
[14:02] <lmat> ikonia: I sort of expected something to be on it (and I expected it to be greater than 200Megs)
[14:03] <ikonia> lmat: that's how big the partition is in the output you posted earlier
[14:03] <mishke_> llutz, what faster as you think?
[14:03] <ikonia> lmat: its on a big disk - but that how big that partition is
[14:03] <lmat> ikonia: okay
[14:04] <lmat> ikonia: And it appears that there are no other partitions?
[14:04] <llutz> mishke_: idk, i ran lubuntu on my old atom n270 without problem
[14:04] <ikonia> lmat: not according to your earlier output, you can try to mount /dev/sdd2 if you want
[14:04] <mishke_> llutz, thx
[14:04] <lmat> ikonia: It says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock ... "
[14:04] <llutz> mishke_: how much RAM you have?
[14:05] <ikonia> lmat: as expected
[14:05] <lmat> ikonia: You've been very helpful, I think I need to look into how the disk works and how it's being exposed without its little software interface thing...
[14:06] <mishke_> llutz, 1gb Asus EEE PC / Atom N570 (2 cores)
[14:07] <Yellowmans> Hello please help with xubuntu. 12.04 not loading live cd wont help
[14:07] <lmat> ikonia: Thanks much!
[14:07] <MorpheusXNL> one, i solved it
[14:07] <llutz> mishke_: try lubuntu, you always could install xubuntu-desktop later and compare
[14:07] <lmat> Yellowmans: Be sure the computer is plugged in.
[14:07] <cacawachi> hi
[14:07] <MorpheusXNL> i just opened my network profile in network manager saved it again and then rebooted and it worked
[14:07] <cfhowlett> cacawachi: greetings
[14:08] <Katelyn> It's raining around the world!
[14:08] <cacawachi> greeting sir :)
[14:08] <ikonia> MorpheusXNL: well done
[14:08] <llutz> mishke_: both should be running fine with 1GB, depends all on the other applications you use
[14:08] <Katelyn> :D
[14:08]  * Katelyn so happy
[14:08] <DJones> Katelyn: And that is an Ubuntu support issue in what way?
[14:08] <cacawachi> no I advise more than 10gb
[14:08] <Katelyn> I figured out what the UNIX bug was.
[14:08] <mishke_> llutz, thx, just ubuntu very very very lags on my netbook, but now i understand why) its just for PC)
[14:09] <Katelyn> reverse-endian by character reverse-sort
[14:09] <mishke_> llutz, i hope lubuntu can fix this)
[14:09] <ikonia> Katelyn: do you have an ubuntu question/problem/topic ?
[14:09] <MorpheusXNL> ikonia, i also did something else and don't know if it had influence but commented out p2pl interface in my interfaces file because don't know what it is.
[14:09] <mishke_> llutz, 32 or 64, prefer 32?)
[14:09] <Yellowmans> Yes lmat is Plugged in
[14:09] <Katelyn> I am just pointing out a UNIX, Windows, Apple, Unix, etc bug :)
[14:09] <ikonia> MorpheusXNL: shouldn't have made a difference, but who knows
[14:09] <llutz> mishke_: stay with 32 in that setup
[14:09] <Katelyn> I am just pointing out a UNIX, Windows, Apple, Linux*, etc bug :)
[14:09] <ikonia> Katelyn: ok, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, it would be great if you could keep within that area
[14:09] <cacawachi> is there someone here know some about php ?
[14:09] <MorpheusXNL> how could i check what device that is
[14:10] <llutz> weekend-trolls come in early this week
[14:10] <ikonia> cacawachi: the ##php channel does
[14:10] <cacawachi> thank you ikonia
[14:10] <Katelyn> Also, certs all expire past 8000AD+ and everything except system files delete upon restore
[14:10] <ikonia> Katelyn: stop
[14:10] <MorpheusXNL> well thank you all for your assistance.
[14:10] <ikonia> Katelyn: please re-read what I said before speaking again
[14:10] <Katelyn> ???
[14:11] <lmat> Yellowmans: If you want help, you have to ask a question.
[14:11] <mishke_> llutz, are flash-games can good work on my netbook-configuration?)
[14:11] <Katelyn> ikonia, you have zero-day phobia don't you? Especially when it applies to all platforms?
[14:11] <Yellowmans> Xubuntu 12.04 loads into initramfs ..anyone?
[14:12] <cacawachi> I need invitation for #php :/
[14:12] <ikonia> !register | cacawachi
[14:12] <ikonia> cacawachi: the guys in #freenode can help you if you are stuck with how to join ##php
[14:12] <cacawachi> thanks brothers and sisters
[14:13] <cacawachi> I'm new to this irc :)
[14:13] <ikonia> cacawachi: that's fine, #freenode is the IRC help channel and they will walk you through anything you need
[14:14] <Katelyn> Another glitch is Feb 29 2000 wasn't supposed to occur due to being divisible by 400 years
[14:15] <Yellowmans> What is initramfs?
[14:15] <ikonia> Yellowmans: basically a small file system loaded into ram at boot
[14:15] <compuser> if i can a farm of 10 servers through a hosting provider, how can i determine which one uses the bandwidth most?
[14:15] <mishke_> llutz, are flash-games can good work on my netbook-configuration?)
[14:15] <ikonia> compuser: monitor their interfaces, or ask for a monitor to be put on the switch
[14:16] <compuser> or which has deviant network utilization?
[14:16] <Guest37032> the filesystem that sets things up for the main distro to load
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> compuser  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:16] <compuser> ikonia, monitor on switch, can you elaborate a bit on it?
[14:17] <ikonia> compuser: traffic monitor on the switch they plug into, or monitor their individual ethernet cards
[14:18] <Guest37032> my ethernet port is broken
[14:18] <compuser> thanks ikonia
[14:18] <Yellowmans> Can i enter xubuntu from initramfs? Thanks ikonia
[14:18] <ikonia> Yellowmans: no
[14:20] <alfirus> hello everyone. is anyone success to disable nvidia graphic card so our battery can stand much more longger in Ubuntu 12? i did follow http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 but stuck at dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[14:20] <verzx> How do I install a list of packages, to be more specific : http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> ^ shows how to use a package list
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> verzx: or maybe:   sudo apt-get install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:21] <Guest37032> it is also possible to create a local repo
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> verzx: bit easier
[14:21] <llutz> mishke_: idk, idon't play games or use flash
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest37032  i guess you mean a ppa
[14:22] <marcs1989> Hello. New Linux user. I'm trying to learn Unix, and I noticed in one of my directories ls will display all of my files in that directory, and a duplicate of that file with ~ after it. I'm not sure why?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest37032: sure, you can use apt-mirror
[14:23] <Guest37032> all i do is, store all the debs in a folder, create an index file, tell apt to use it, and voila
[14:23] <Guest37032> similar to apt-cdrom
[14:23] <verzx> ActionParsnip: That doesn't seem to work.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> verzx: what is the output of the 2nd command I gave?
[14:24] <verzx> E: Unable to locate package toolslist.txt
[14:24] <llutz> marcs1989: files with ~ are mostly backups of edited text-files
[14:24] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  some text editors auto make backup files with a ~ at the end of the name
[14:24] <dr_willis> not sure if vi does that by default or not.
[14:24] <verzx> ActionParsnip: I've changed directory too.
[14:24] <marcs1989> llutz dr_willis Ah, okay. Thanks guys. I'm using gedit, vi seems a bit complicated, if really powerful.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> verzx: run:    cd $HOME; wget http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:25] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  check out the vimtutor program - it teaches you the basics
[14:25] <dr_willis> and yes. it is worth learning vi . ;)
[14:25] <dr_willis> !find vimtutor
[14:26] <dr_willis> just run 'vimtutor' from a shell
[14:26] <marcs1989> dr_willis Thanks, I'll check that out!
[14:26] <Guest37032> look up odzangba kafui how to build local apt repository
[14:26] <Guest37032> i am not him of course
[14:26] <marcs1989> Speaking of shells, does anyone know how to make the background image of a shell stay in a fixed position as I move the window?
[14:26] <nearst> hi ppl
[14:27] <marcs1989> Will vimtutor teach me vim or vi?
[14:27] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  you seeing the wallpaper of the desktop? thats  more of a terminal app setting. not a shell
[14:27] <dr_willis> vim is vi with some extras. so it dosent really matter
[14:28] <marcs1989> dr_willis No, but I'd be fine if it was the wallpaper. A solid color gets a bit hard to stare at after a while.
[14:28] <dekroning> where can I override the dns server given by my default DHCP server ?
[14:28] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  i would consider a wallpaper hard to stare at.. i perfer a nice solid black background for my termiansl
[14:29] <marcs1989> dr_willis And I don't really much like the way images move normally, and other images always seem to large.
[14:29] <carpediembaby> hi. what's the best way of searching for a string in each line of a file and copying the matching lines to another file? given that the input file is huge (~500 million lines)
[14:29] <marcs1989> dr_willis I suppose we all have our preference!
[14:29] <verzx> ActionParsnip: Nope, that didn't  seem to work.
[14:29] <verzx> ActionParsnip: It says now: E: Command line option --list is not understood
[14:29] <carpediembaby> is grep 'search_string' inputfile > output_file efficient enough?
[14:30] <llutz> carpediembaby: easiest "grep pattern file >newfile", but best...?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> verzx: is the file a list of just package names?
[14:30] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  im not sure how you mean images moveing.. You can set a background image for gnome-terminal and it dosent move
[14:30] <verzx> ActionParsnip: Have a look at the link that I gave you.
[14:30] <carpediembaby> llutz: i was wondering if its efficient or not. and if someone knew an efficient solution
[14:30] <carpediembaby> in case grep isn't
[14:30] <verzx> ActionParsnip: wget  http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get  install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> verzx: the file isn't a package list
[14:31] <marcs1989> dr_willis Yes, but then the image is too small or too big and it will always show the top right corner of the image. Otherwise, the image will scroll, and it will do so oddly when I'm reading pydocs
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> verzx: its a whole bunch of extra stuff too
[14:31] <alfirus> hello everyone. is anyone success to disable nvidia graphic card so our battery can stand much more longger in Ubuntu 12? i did follow http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 but stuck at dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[14:32] <verzx> ActionParsnip: I want to install everything that is there, I have installed from this before but can't remember how I did it.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> verzx: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:33] <verzx> ActionParsnip: quantal (I'm on ubuntu 12.10)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> verzx: wget -O correct https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get install `cat correct`
[14:35] <c2tarun> is there anyway to completely remove empathy integration from Ubuntu message drop down from notification area?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> verzx: 0trace isn't in the main repo
[14:36] <verzx> ActonParsnip: I know I have added the backtrack 5 repository of which all of them programs are in that repo. :)
[14:36] <llutz> carpediembaby: you might look at "parallel" to speed up grep a bit
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> verzx: not sure how suported that is here if you add the repo for backtrack, can anybody clarify please
[14:36] <cprofitt> alfirus: does your pc manufacturer allow you to disable in bios?
[14:36] <nearst> !ask
[14:37] <alfirus> cprofitt, checking it now
[14:37] <verzx> ActionParsnip: You want the repo that I added?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> verzx: it doesn't interest me
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> verzx: can you see the difference between the files?
[14:38] <verzx> ActionParsnip: Ok then, nevermind I guess i'll try and ask others.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> verzx: why would I need to know the repo? as long as the packages are available it will install....
[14:39] <becker> Test 1 2 3
[14:40] <Malsasa> Hello, how to use dpkg for distinguishing netbeans debs from all debs in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: ls /var/cache/apt/archives | grep -i bean
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: maybe....
[14:41] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: thank you, I will try
[14:41] <Pici> Malsasa: What are you trying to accomplish?
[14:42] <liefer> Im recording audio using 'rec' and/or 'arecord', but the recorded audio contains a ton of noise. What can i do to avoid this noise? It seems like i cannot solve it with the encoder, the noise is added before that (in Pulse?)
[14:42] <Malsasa> Pici: i wanna take my debs for netbeans to my anoter Ubuntu machine
[14:43] <Malsasa> Pici: so i can sudo dpkg -i * without downloading again
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: that'll do it :)
[14:44] <alfirus> it shows "graphic device" with option switchable graphics and UMA graphic
[14:44] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: I have do it. It just list what named *bean*, not tracking dependencies. I wanna track dependencies for netbeans. But thank you for piping. It is advanced.
[14:45] <alfirus> i forgot who asked me regarding my bios just now... damn
[14:45] <Pici> !aptoncd | I think aptoncd might track dependencies
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: dpkg -I filename.deb
[14:46] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: i'll try
[14:46] <cprofitt> alfirus: I did
[14:46] <alfirus> cprofitt, it shows "graphic device" with option switchable graphics and UMA graphic
[14:46] <cprofitt> alfirus: try setting it to UMA
[14:47] <alfirus> cprofitt, after that?
[14:47] <alfirus> means i don't need to use the script anymore, rite?
[14:47] <cprofitt> I believe that will make only the intel graphics card on
[14:47] <cprofitt> no more script or antyhing
[14:47] <cprofitt> that is what I do with my machine
[14:47] <cprofitt> http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-Y-U-V-Z-and-P-series/Z580-BIOS-graphics-options/td-p/800347
[14:49] <alfirus> just like that? (bang my head with mouse)
[14:49] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: it is my result No packages found matching pdftk_1.44-4build1_i386.deb. whereas that deb is exist in /var/cache/apt/archives. What another option?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: man dpkg     will tell you :)
[14:51] <cprofitt> alfirus: yes, but when the bios is set with that option you will only be able to use the Intel graphics
[14:51] <alfirus> cprofitt, according to http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04/comment-page-2 command, is there anything i need to revert back?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/63633-command-see-dependencies-package-ubuntu.html
[14:51] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: it is crowded, and my english is bad, limited to simple chatting language. I have read it and confused so much. But thank you so much.
[14:51] <cprofitt> which is sufficient unless you want to play games that require high powered graphics
[14:51] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: THANK you, TKP!
[14:52] <cprofitt> if you need your nvidia grahpcis you would need to change the bios setting... and then load the nvidia driver
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: I just websearched :)
[14:52] <xusr> hi
[14:52] <cprofitt> unless you are playing heavy duty 3d games it is not likely that you would need too
[14:52] <cprofitt> I have the optimus disabled on all three of my Lenovo machines
[14:52] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: wow, what keywords? My language skill is bad and low. I am sorry.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: 'dpkg show dependancies of a deb'    simple
[14:53] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: wow, for me, to be simple is difficult. Thank you.
[14:54] <xusr> i can't restore grub2 after windows 7 install
[14:54] <xusr> please help me
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> xusr: omgubuntu has a great guide call 'sticking it to grub'
[14:55] <xusr> ?
[14:55] <alfirus> thanks for your info cprofitt. What do you think about undervoltage script?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xusr: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=omgubuntu+sticking+it+to+grub     too hard??
[14:58] <alfirus> did you did undervoltage, cprofitt?
[14:59] <xusr> i get this error
[14:59] <xusr> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[14:59] <xusr> can you help me?
[14:59] <xusr> i tried boot-repair and it doesnt work
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> xusr: do you use encryptfs or anything like that?
[15:01] <xusr> no
[15:01] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: it is good with apt-cache depends pbuilder (pbuilder is exist in my cache along all its dependencies) but it is just a little to my goal. Yes apt-cache can show packages dependencies, completely and almost perfect but just main name, not complete package name. I wanna apt-cache show all dependencies with complete packages name like anu_1.0_i386.deb.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> xusr: do you have /boot on a separate partition?
[15:02] <xusr> no
[15:02] <MindSpark> people, we have a lunatic in the room
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> xusr: did you use the omgubuntu how to an reinstate grub from liveCD (or USB)?
[15:02] <xusr> yes
[15:03] <I-oB> hi
[15:03] <MindSpark> anyone else's been approached by one?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> xusr: from the mounted partition, can you find /boot/grub folder
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: approached in what way?
[15:03] <compdoc> I like the moon
[15:03] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip:  in this way http://pastebin.com/Wn41mJMU
[15:03] <xusr> yes
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> xusr: is the partition mounted writable
[15:04] <raffaele> buona sera
[15:04] <miszczo> yo
[15:04] <raffaele> qualcuno parla italiano?
[15:04] <Pici> !it | raffaele
[15:04] <llutz> MindSpark: even your irc-client should have an /ignore function
[15:05] <miszczo> i have problem with compiz on xubuntu 12.10, i dont have a  up beam in window
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: crazy tinfoil hat wearers
[15:05] <MindSpark> llutz: yes, that's not what I was asking though, I was asking if someone else's had a conversation like that
[15:05] <llutz> !ot | MindSpark:
[15:05] <ezhilvanan> Hi, which eclipse version is best for android development on ubuntu?? i'm using eclipse juno. But it is hanging lot of times.. plz help
[15:06] <MindSpark> llutz: so I go to offtopic to ask if someone ontopic has experienced that?
[15:06] <Pici> MindSpark: the ops have their eye on it.
[15:06] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: are you busy?
[15:06] <miszczo> All versions are good
[15:07] <miszczo> jest ktos z Polski?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !pl | miszczo
[15:08] <ezhilvanan> miszczo, thanks for your reply.. but Eclipse Juno is getting hang on many times...
[15:09] <Malsasa> Hello all, it is good with apt-cache depends pbuilder (pbuilder is exist in my cache along all its dependencies) but it is just a little to my goal. Yes apt-cache can show packages dependencies, completely and almost perfect but just main name, not complete package name. I wanna apt-cache show all dependencies with complete packages name like anu_1.0_i386.deb. How is the command? I have browsed some documentation online by googling and dpkg manual :)
[15:10] <warmonkey> hello everyone, i'm new here
[15:11] <nearst> hi warmonkey
[15:11] <leetdood> i try to protect a process from oom killer and this comes up
[15:11] <leetdood> echo '-17' > /proc/9049/oom_adj
[15:11] <leetdood> -bash: /proc/9049/oom_adj: Permission denied
[15:11] <leetdood> does anybody know how i can fix this?
[15:11] <Pitel> I need help... I've packard bell netbook with intel atom n2600... and it does not boot to lightdm login. Also, replacing "quiet splash" with "text" in grub ends with black screen. booting recovery mode does not let me modify any files... so how the fsck should I fix it?!
[15:12] <e66> I am getting "Starting crash report submission daemon                                                                                                                                    [fail]" message during boot. How to fix it?
[15:12] <warmonkey> well i reached here in 5 yrs ago when i was middle school grade eight
[15:12] <warmonkey> i thikn you need sudo
[15:12] <Pici> leetdood: echo '-17' | sudo tee /proc/9049/oom_adj
[15:12] <ezhilvanan> which eclipse version is best for android development on ubuntu?
[15:12] <warmonkey> leetdood, use superuser for your operation
[15:13] <e66>  No idea
[15:13] <e66> ?
[15:13] <warmonkey> ezhilvanan, i think you need newest version
[15:13] <warmonkey> latest
[15:14] <ezhilvanan> i'm using latest version of Eclipse. But it is not working well.. it is getting hang
[15:14] <warmonkey> try to check permission for adk
[15:15] <ezhilvanan> warmonkey, yep
[15:15] <leetdood> warmonkey/pici: thank you very much! warmonkey's advice to use su worked for me
[15:15] <warmonkey> or use terminal to start eclipse in verbose mode or debug mode or sth else, so you can get more information about the error
[15:16] <warmonkey> to see what cause it stopped
[15:16] <Malsasa> Hello all, it is good with apt-cache depends pbuilder (pbuilder is exist in my cache along all its dependencies) but it is just a little to my goal. Yes apt-cache can show packages dependencies, completely and almost perfect but just main name, not complete package name. I wanna apt-cache show all dependencies with complete packages name like anu_1.0_i386.deb. How is the command? I have browsed some documentation online by googling and dpkg manual :)
[15:17] <c2tarun> is there anyway to completely remove empathy integration from Ubuntu message drop down from notification area?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: uninstalling EMpathy should do it
[15:18] <Haris> Hello all
[15:18] <Haris> I just setup a 12.04lts 64bit box. I forgot the normal user/pass that's made through setup. Is there a way for me to re-set that user or root's pass ? The other option would be to rebuild this box. centos has an option to reboot the box in single user mode. The rescue mode. Where one can re-set the root pass. Do we have such an option with Ubuntu
[15:18] <warmonkey> try to config gtk-panel? use gtk properties config
[15:19] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, ok, one more thing plz, what is difference between "sudo apt-get remove --purge package-name" and "sudo apt-get remove package-name && sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:19] <warmonkey> Haris, use another os to edit /etc/passwd
[15:19] <escott> Haris, during setup it will ask you for the username password. you forgot that
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: the second command has no purge, so the configs outside of /home will stand
[15:20] <escott> warmonkey, you should never be editing /etc/passwd directly
[15:20] <Haris> warmonkey: that's not possible. I'm 10000 miles away. This box is sitting in a DC. I have kvm, apc to control it through
[15:20] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, what do mean by configs outside of /home will stand?
[15:20] <escott> Haris, you boot into single user mode or chroot into the system
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: stuff in /etc and so on
[15:20] <Haris> escott: so configure grub to boot into single user mode the same way its done on centos ?
[15:20] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, if we purge all the stuffs will be removed and autoremove will not be able to do it?
[15:20] <Haris> add the word 'single' at the end of 'the' line in grub options ?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: it will also show in the output of:  dpkg -l    as 'rc' and you will need to run:  sudo dpkg -P packagename   to clean
[15:21] <escott> Haris, i believe that will work. there may already be a entry for it
[15:21] <warmonkey> purge = remove all configurations
[15:21] <escott> Haris, possibly called rescue
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: autoremove just removes the uneeded deps
[15:21] <Haris> ok, let me give this a go
[15:21] <warmonkey> purge can make all config info fully cleared
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> escott: oooh, didnt know that :)
[15:22] <mhsbec> Hil... Can anybody tell me how to install NCTUns in ubuntu?
[15:22] <warmonkey> single user login need root passwd...
[15:22] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, sounds like --purge is good option, any particular reason why it is not the default behavior?
[15:22] <warmonkey> so you need another os to change passwd
[15:22] <Bktt> I changed my users passwd and now i cant remember. Is there any way to recovery it?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> warmonkey: there is no root password, nor do yo uneed it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> mhsbec: http://wiki.ehas.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_NCTUns_in_Debian/Ubuntu
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> warmonkey: if you want to become root, just run:   sudo -i
[15:23] <nearst> delete user and adduser :O
[15:23] <warmonkey> ActionParsnip: try sudo passwd -h
[15:23] <escott> !recovery
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Bktt: boot to root recovery mode and run:    passwd foo
[15:24] <warmonkey> see how to change passwd for a specficed user
[15:24] <escott> !single
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> warmonkey: sudo passwd foo
[15:24] <ericmcray> hello guys. i have 250GB Hdd which has 2 partition and 2 OS (win7 and ubuntu12). i bought a new 1TB hdd and i want to move win7 partition to new hdd. is it possible via ubuntu?
[15:25] <c2tarun> I found this page: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/   and it appears that it is pretty easy to break into someone machine with ubuntu installed. Isn't this a security threat?
[15:25] <warmonkey> c2tarun: no --purge will keep you config so if you install deb next time you'll get your config's back
[15:25] <Bktt> ActionParsnip: i had alredy tryed but i dont have a run passwd. I used to use sudo command with my own
[15:25] <Bktt> Root
[15:25] <escott> Haris, as ActionParsnip pointed out its called "recovery" mode during the boot menu
[15:25] <rob_p_> https://acc.esohtn.com/start?id=0.27866198142482157
[15:25] <linux> asd
[15:25] <linux> asd
[15:26] <escott> Bktt, so you boot recovery and select "root shell" and then run "passwd yourusername"
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Bktt: passwd foo   not just passwd
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Bktt: replace foo with your username
[15:26] <warmonkey> ericmcray, try dd directly copy and use tools to expand partitions to fill 1TB
[15:27] <c2tarun> also there  is an official page to guide if you forgot password. :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[15:27] <ericmcray> what is dd?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> ericmcray: a way to copy data from one device to another bit by bit
[15:28] <ericmcray> warmonkey: what is dd?
[15:28] <Bktt> Actionparsnip: but what i do when the system asks me for the root password for maintenance?
[15:28] <escott> Bktt, it wont
[15:29] <ericmcray> ActionParsnip: is there any software for that?
[15:29] <escott> ericmcray, yes its called "dd"
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ericmcray: for what?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Bktt: then you have set the root password which is not supported here
[15:29] <warmonkey> ericmcray: try dd to copy a harddisk to another bit by bit or use ghost or other tools to clone hdd, then expand that
[15:30] <escott> ericmcray, also keep in mind you should only use dd to copy unmounted partitions
[15:30] <Haris> ok
[15:30] <Haris> I have the recovery menu infront of me
[15:30] <escott> Haris, there should be a root shell option
[15:30] <Haris> I have the option to drop to root shell. From there I can do this
[15:30] <warmonkey> if sudo works, use passwd command, search howto use passwd and you'll get solution to change another user passwd
[15:31] <ericmcray> thank you guys!
[15:31] <ericmcray> im gonna try it
[15:31] <warmonkey> principle is, if you are root, you can change other one's passwd as you like
[15:34] <Haris> I have a problem changing password. Its the kvm. when I type something on kvm, it sometimes multiple times duplicates the character that is typed
[15:34] <Haris> is there another way to change the passwd
[15:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone with experience creating .desktop launchers?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[15:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I have been looking at the xpm format (pretty cool, actually), but needa know about multiple-sized icons.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: all I do is copy ones from ~/.config/autostart   and edit it :)
[15:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: I have .png of sizes from 16-256, and realize that they usually go in /usr/share/pixmaps/, but how would I arrange for it to have the right sized icons? (I use gnome-fallback, so i wanna make sure it works in the gnome menu)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: you can use absolute paths for the icons if you want
[15:39] <ubuntuu5er> hello
[15:39] <ubuntuu5er> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s_9Djnri8A
[15:39] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, there is a whole spec for the icons which is distinct
[15:40] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, if the icon is properly named you shouldnt have to do anything it should just pick the correct one
[15:40] <Capprentice> install a icon set like faenza icons.
[15:40] <k1l> ubuntuu5er: you have an actual support issue?
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: please elaborate.
[15:40] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html
[15:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: I'm creating my own custom launchers.
[15:40] <ubuntuu5er> k1l, sry not english ..
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: many thanks
[15:41] <Capprentice> How you are creating launchers ? possibly using .desktop files
[15:41] <k1l> ubuntuu5er: dont just advertise your videos in here.
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: yes
[15:41] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, if not that then try this http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html
[15:41] <Capprentice> so if you install an icon se you will just get whole bunch of new icons. Most of the icons we use come from the hicolor folder in /usr/share/icons
[15:42] <Capprentice> so if you install icon set you will get more varities there.
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: using elementary for the most part
[15:42] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, " So, you're an application author, and want to install application icons so that they work in the KDE and Gnome menus. Minimally you should install a 48x48 icon in the hicolor theme. This means installing a PNG file in $prefix/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps. Optionally you can install icons in different sizes. For example, installing a svg icon in $prefix/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps means most desktops will have
[15:42] <escott> one icon that works for all sizes. You might even want to install icons with a look that matches other well known themes so your application will fit in with some specific desktop environment.
[15:42] <escott> It is recommended that the icons installed in the hicolor theme look neutral, since it is a fallback theme that will be used in combination with some very different looking themes. But if you don't have any neutral icon, please install whatever icon you have in the hicolor theme so that all applications get at least some icon in all themes. "
[15:42] <ubuntuu5er> k1l, sry.
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: I don't need more icons. I have installed ms office via playonlinux and am integrating those applications into the gnome menu
[15:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: so I dont have to open playonlinux and then, say, excell
[15:44] <Capprentice> When you install I think the menus are automatically created. I have once insalled MS office 2007 on wine and the menus were automatically created. I was using Unity though.
[15:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: so it will resize one icon to match the locations it is used?
[15:44] <ubuntuu5er> k1l, video is useful ..
[15:45] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, it is supposed to pick the closest size and then resize that. there are various rules about the whole process
[15:45] <Capprentice> are u saying that alt+f2 then write excel and excel will run ?1
[15:45] <k1l> ubuntuu5er: then blog about it. this is a support channel where we solve problems and dont advertise stuff.
[15:45] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, as an icon designer you can either provide an svg icon which will be scale independent
[15:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: playonlinux disables winebuilder (what makes the menu), so thought I *had* a wine menu (removed it) they would not show up there. even were I using only wine I would still do this to better integrate.
[15:46] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, or provide multiple bitmaps at different sizes
[15:46] <Eksit> ;o
[15:46] <ubuntuu5er> k1l, okey :)
[15:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: no, but under playonlinux you can do alt+f2 playonlinux --run "Microsoft Excell 2010" and it will run.
[15:47] <yousaf> hi all
[15:47] <yousaf> anyone familar with Rackspace?
[15:47] <ikonia> yousaf: in what relation to ubuntu ?
[15:47] <ikonia> Capprentice: I strongly advise you not to try to use wine type functions for anything you depend on
[15:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: yes, I already have multiple png icons extracted from ms .ico files.
[15:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: what I am wondering is where to stick them.
[15:48] <Capprentice> I was checking how wine works. I dont like to use MS tools on Linux. I have Windows for that :) Thanks for the suggestion though.
[15:48] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, in directories or the relevant size
[15:48] <ikonia> Capprentice: a wise choice, use the platform the applications where designed to run on
[15:48] <Eksit> ^ that
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: sometimes that is not always an option ;(
[15:49] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, s/or/of/
[15:49] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: that doesn't change what I said
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I got that.
[15:49] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, so what is the question then
[15:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: your info was sufficient, thankyou.
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: nor does it change what I said.
[15:50] <Capprentice> How you are putting my name in this chat box ? I suppose you guys are not typying down my name here. Where I can learn about how Xchat or any other IRC works ?
[15:50] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: .....of course it doesn't
[15:50] <ikonia> Capprentice: the #xchat channel can teach you about how to use xchat
[15:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: type the first few letters then hit tab
[15:50] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  wow ! it works. Thanks
[15:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: if its the wrong name tap it again.
[15:51] <nearst> o0o
[15:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: you can do the same in terminal, type the first few letters of a command/file/directory and tab to finish it.
[15:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: so I would want to add these files into my current theme for them to show correctly?
[15:54] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  yes it works! i did not knew these. Thanks again.
[15:54] <Ohad> Anyone knows how I can run a program on startup?
[15:54] <Capprentice> Ohad,
[15:54] <Capprentice> use autostart
[15:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: its very usefull if you use terminal alot, like me (using irssi in terminal right now to talk to ya'll)
[15:55] <yousaf> ikonia installing PHP, Apache etc
[15:55] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, the launcher specifies a filename for the icon something like "programname.png" (right?) and then the theme engine knowing the size it wants searches all the directories for the best matching /usr/share/icons/hicolor/$SIZE/apps/programname.png
[15:55] <ikonia> yousaf: how does rackspace change it from the standard procedure ?
[15:55] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, ie you should not have to worry about the size. just populate the directories with a file of the same name in each
[15:56] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777, itz very cool. I dont like terminal much though.
[15:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: ahah, so highcolor would be where to put them? again, I am using elementary.
 I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 on arm, there is no such command...
[15:56] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, hicolor is the default hicolor theme
[15:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: if I understand right if there are no icon for something in my current theme it defaults to highcolor?
[15:57] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, a disabled person might be using a hicontrast theme, but they will fall back to hicolor if one cannot be found in hicolor
[15:57] <Capprentice> Ohad,  there is no such command. I was talking about the "start up programs" you can find it under your user name. Click on there and see there is a entry for tat.
[15:57] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, it cascades first on size, then on theme name
[15:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: fascinating.
[15:58] <Capprentice> Ohad, im rite now sitting on fedora so cant tell u the xact what is there. nut just click ur user name. search there. you will find it.
[15:58] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, and there are various subtleties regarding svg, but generally an app icon is exclusively offered in svg or bitmap, but not both
[15:58] <Capprentice> what kind of format is XPM ? is it a bitmap kind of format ?
 thanks, i'm searching...
[15:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: xpm is a text file
[15:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: in essense it is ascii art
[15:59] <escott> but it is a bitmap
[15:59] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777, text file ?!!! i have xpm images on my hicolor folder !!!!!!
[15:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: try opening one with gedit, you will be in for a treat ;)
[15:59] <escott> Capprentice, its a bitmap (but editable in a text editor)
[16:00] <Capprentice> well u can open svs images too that way.
[16:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: what is an svs
[16:01] <Capprentice> SVG sorry.
[16:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: ah. xpm is more "readable", if I recall.
[16:01] <Haris> oops, wrong ubuntu room
[16:02] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, SVG is vector graphics. very different from a bitmap
[16:02] <mefistofeles> hey I can't set my screen brightness on a toshiba mini (with driver gma500), any ideas? I tried using acpi_backlight=vendor boot parameter and it didnt work
[16:03] <raj> why can't I do `sudo apt-get install gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0`?
[16:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: it is all like curves and lines described mathmatically, right?
[16:03] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, yes
[16:04] <k1l> raj: shsow the error message please (in a pastebin)
[16:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: whereas xpm is "this pixel is this color, the next one is that color, ect" right?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> raj  type sudo apt-get install gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0|pastebinit and paste the url here, so we can see
[16:05] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you draw a circle in SVG and scale it up and up and it remains circular, you blow up a circle of a bitmap and you start seeing the blockiness of the pixels
[16:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: gotcha. are you aware of any way to convert png to svg and get these benefits?
[16:06] <Haris> 1x box rebuild avoided
[16:06] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, not good ones, and its not necessarily better
[16:06] <pierreN> hi
[16:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: k. thank you again.
[16:06] <unborn> virtualbox in ubuntu repos broken eh
[16:07] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, with icons they have found that what works best is generally to start with an SVG, and then tweak it at each size (adjusting line width, removing elements for small images, adding detail for large images) and then creating a fixed size bitmap image
[16:07] <davis776> how to check disk usage? external disk never goes stand by
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> davis776  df -h
[16:08] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, otherwise you have to compromise on the details and have an SVG that only looks good at intermediate images sizes
[16:08] <k1l> davis2042: lsof
[16:08] <Capprentice> use disk usage analyser if u prefer gui.
[16:08] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, or its like the gorilla theme, which has a minimalistic appeal to it at all sizes
[16:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: ahh, I see. so since I am fortunate enough to already have the icons in many sizes.
[16:09] <unborn> davidcalle, if you need simple one gparted
[16:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: ^ +1
[16:09] <davis776> MonkeyDust, Capprentice not this type of usage, I mean some kind of read/write activity (I enabled this http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png but never goes to stand by)
[16:09] <pierreN> i'm trying to mount an usb3 external hard drive (just bought it), i mount it correctly, but i can't read any directories except "System Volume Information". here is my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/HcieTEZP anyone has a clue please ?
[16:09] <davidcalle> unborn, wrong target :)
[16:10] <unborn> davidcalle, why? :)
[16:11] <davidcalle> unborn, because I believe you wanted to say this to davis776, not me
[16:11] <unborn> davidcalle, ah my bad man i am sorry heh you are right
[16:12] <davidcalle> unborn, np ;)
[16:12] <unborn> davis776, use gparted for simple thing
[16:12] <unborn> davidcalle, i didnt mean to bother you heh its just auto-complete you know
[16:13] <davidcalle> unborn, i know, happens to me all the time, especially in these crowded channels :)
[16:14] <k1l> !lsof | davis776
[16:14] <k1l> davis776: lsof is the program you need
[16:15] <Capprentice> How to get screen saver on Ubuntu 12 ? What does Project M do ?
[16:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: would you think its better to shrink an existing icon or grow? not all sizes are represented with my current collection of icons.
[16:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver
[16:16] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  do I need to make some special configurations ? How do i activate it ?
[16:16] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, you dont have to populate all the directories
[16:16] <Avinash1> Hello ..
[16:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: I like to cover my bases ;)
[16:16] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, if you dont populate all the algorithm will pick the closest and use that
[16:16] <Capprentice> Avinash1,  hello !
[16:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ahhh
[16:17] <escott> ntzrmtthihu777, if you want more control over that, then you can optionally populate all sizes by making a choice as to which looks best
[16:17] <raj> why can't I do `sudo apt-get install gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0`?
[16:17] <Avinash1> Capprentice: :)
[16:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: unless we get more info from you we cannot answer your question
[16:17] <Capprentice> raj: What does this package do ? is there any such packages ?
[16:17] <Capprentice> Girl ?!!
[16:17] <raj> MonkeyDust, that api for pastebinit has been disabled
[16:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: then use paste.ubuntu.com manually
[16:18] <elijah> What is the Ubuntu dev # name?
[16:18] <raj> http://paste.ofcode.org/byuTXrV77UyEVMhdKEKV6e
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: try just girl
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: and then try tab-completion
[16:19] <Pici> ntzrmtthihu777: its gir1, not girl
[16:19] <raj> there are like a 1000 under gir1
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: well you're gonna have to chose one.
[16:19] <raj> and I installed gir1.2-gstreamer
[16:19] <raj> but I need 1.0
[16:20] <raj> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gir1.2-g
[16:20] <Pici> raj: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:20] <raj> streamer&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:20] <raj> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gir1.2-gstreamer&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:21] <raj> i'm not sure which release
[16:21] <raj> maybe 12.04
[16:21] <raj> 11.10
[16:21] <raj> something like that
[16:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> raj: holy crap it comes with alot of depenencies
[16:21] <Pici> raj: What does lsb_release -r say?
[16:21] <pierreN> anyone has a clue please ?
[16:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pici: my bad, monospaced fonts will do that to you
[16:21] <raj> Pici, 1..04
[16:21] <raj> 11.04
[16:22] <k1l> !eol | raj
[16:22] <Pici> raj: 11.04 is no longer supported. It went end of life in October of last year.
[16:22] <raj> so the package manager doesn't have access to the latest packages?
[16:23] <Pici> raj: So the repositories are effectively offline for you. And the latest packages will not be available.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> raj: install WIndows 95 and try and get Windows updates. Same situation
[16:26] <odaer> a green tree with yellow marschmallows, that is the future
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> I thought the future was orange..
[16:26] <unborn> ActionParsnip, well man come back and report if you've got any :D
[16:33] <devtekbeta> how well does steam run now it is native?
[16:34] <alfwed> hi
[16:34] <mojtaba> I have a usb disk which become read-only, how can I format it?
[16:34] <DJones> !steam | devtekbeta You'll probably get a reasonable response in this channel,
[16:35] <mojtaba> I guess it has got virus
[16:35] <devtekbeta> thanks
[16:35] <mojtaba> how can I fix it?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> a virus?
[16:35] <alfwed> does someone use ubuntu 11.04 here?
[16:35] <mojtaba> Does anybody know the answer?
[16:35] <Pici> alfwed: 11.04 is no longer supported.
[16:35] <k1l> !eol | alfwed
[16:36] <alfwed> 11.04
[16:36] <k1l> alfwed: see the message from the bot
[16:36] <elisa87> How can I install mesa3d ? the package can't be found!
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !find mesa3d
[16:36] <mojtaba> My USB disk is write protected, does anybody know how can I format it?
[16:37] <alfwed> 11.04 isn't supported but yet it's the only stable version i've found so far
[16:37] <raj> what do I need to sudo apt-get to get X on my ubuntu-server?
[16:37] <k1l> alfwed: you know its not supported anymore and is a security risk, but you ask for support?
[16:38] <mojtaba> My USB disk is write protected, does anybody know how can I format it?
[16:38] <mojtaba> Help!
[16:38] <Capprentice> how it is write protected ? is there any switch to do that ?
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  is there a physical on/off switch on the usb stick?
[16:38] <k1l> mojtaba: usually stuff gets mounted read-only if there is a hardware problem. so see the dmesg log
[16:38] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: no
[16:38] <alfwed> i just wanted to find someone who's using 11.04
[16:38] <alfwed> that's all :)
[16:39] <mojtaba> k1l: How can I do that?
[16:39] <k1l> alfwed: not in here, its the official support
[16:39] <k1l> mojtaba: type "dmesg" and scroll up the terminal
[16:39] <alfwed> ok. is there another channel for unofficial support?
[16:40] <mojtaba> k1l: Can I pastbin it here?
[16:40] <k1l> mojtaba: use pastbin and show the link in here. then people can have a look what the error is
[16:40] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  take a screenshot  and show it.
[16:40] <Stdedos> I try to boot my kernel but I get "ALERT! /dev/dish/ ... does not exist.
[16:40] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596414/
[16:40] <k1l> Capprentice: a screenshot is not enough
[16:40] <Stdedos> disk*
[16:41] <elisa87> How can I overcome this problem ? "E: Unable to locate package freeglut"
[16:41] <misster_lonely> w   w    w   .   Alba Chat . Al  Albanian Chat
[16:42] <mojtaba> It is /dev/sdc
[16:42] <mojtaba> How can I format it?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  if it is not there, you cannot locate it, obviously
[16:42] <Stdedos> I try to boot my kernel but I get "ALERT! /dev/disk/ ... does not exist."
[16:42] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: I need to install it! How can I install it?
[16:42] <xangua> !find freeglut | elisa87
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  try freeglut3
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: use gparted
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: /dec/sdc is a physical hard drive
[16:43] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I use it but it says it is read-only
[16:43] <raj> I installed xorg
[16:43] <raj> how do I get it to run?
[16:43] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: it is my usb disk
[16:43] <k1l> raj: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[16:43] <Stdedos> I try to boot my kernel but I get "ALERT! /dev/disk/ ... does not exist."
[16:43] <raj> k1l, I have to?
[16:43] <raj> I only wanted openbox
[16:43] <mojtaba> k1l: could you please check the link?
[16:44] <k1l> raj: or install openbox if you want
[16:44] <raj> i did
[16:44] <raj> now what?
[16:44] <alfwed> is it possible to revert to previous state of a program after using dpkg -i ?
[16:44] <Capprentice> Any one using Cadence or KX studio ?
[16:44] <k1l> im not quite sure if that is enough to start a xsession
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: make sure no partitions on it are mounted
[16:44] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I have umount it
[16:45] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: what is the next step?
[16:45] <Stdedos> I try to boot my kernel but I get "ALERT! /dev/disk/ ... does not exist."
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: make sure no partitions on it are mounted
[16:46] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I have done it, and what is the next step to format it?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: gksudo gparted
[16:47] <Capprentice> Select the partition you want to format, then select format as - ntfs, fat 32 ext4 anything u want.
[16:47] <frame45> @Stdedos can you boot from a usb drive?
[16:47] <Stdedos> I can boot from another kernel
[16:47] <murthy> !tam
[16:47] <Stdedos> that's not my problem
[16:48] <murthy> !tamil
[16:48] <llutz> Stdedos: did you compile your own kernel? what kernel fails?
[16:48] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.
[16:48] <Stdedos> llutz: Yeah, I need to for my uni project
[16:48] <mojtaba> It gave this alert
[16:48] <Stdedos> llutz: but while everything runs smoothly, my kernel cannot boot
[16:49] <llutz> Stdedos: so how do you expect us to fix your kernel
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: if you right click it, can you do stuff with it?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: is it not the CD drive?
[16:49] <mojtaba> AcitonParsnip: NO, it is the USB disk
[16:49] <mojtaba> I am sure
[16:49] <mojtaba> It does not allow me to format it
[16:49] <elijah> I have Nautilus set to always execute *.sh files, but now it doesn't open in terminal so I can see the progress. Any ideas?
[16:49] <Stdedos> llutz: I only removed packets, so maybe you could tell me what should be compiled in order to mount
[16:50] <elisa87> !find mesa3d
[16:50] <elisa87> "Package/file mesa3d does not exist in quantal" do you know how I can install mesa3d?
[16:52] <mojtaba> does anybody know how can I format a USB disk which is read-only?
[16:53] <elisa87> !find mesa
[16:53] <Stdedos> mojtaba: Making it writeable??
[16:53] <mojtaba> Stdedos: how can I do that?
[16:53] <frame45> @mojtaba will gparted not work?
[16:53] <mojtaba> frame45: no, it just said it is read-only
[16:53] <oliverp> Isn't this the weirdest error ever? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596453/ What has smbd to do with dhclient?
[16:53] <Stdedos> mojtaba: well, is it hardware forced or software
[16:54] <llutz> oliverp: nothing, its just a general example text
[16:54] <mojtaba> Stdedos: I am not sure, but there are some odd files with unusual names.
[16:54] <oliverp> llutz: So, what is wrong? :/
[16:54] <Capprentice> format the usb. Insert the usb -> open gparted -> unmount the usb in gparted -> format as fat 32
[16:54] <mojtaba> I guess it has got a virus in windows
[16:54] <llutz> oliverp: have you even read that text?
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> tr
[16:55] <oliverp> llutz: I missed the "e.g." :-)
[16:55] <Stdedos> llutz: frame45, can you think of something?
[16:56] <oliverp> So I should not invoke dhclient like that? (?)
[16:56] <mojtaba> does anybody know how can I force a usb disk writeable?
[16:56] <frame45> @mojtaba I think Capprentice is right you need to destroy the partition and then make a new one and format as FAT32
[16:56] <llutz> oliverp: yes, "sudo service dh....."
[16:56] <Stdedos> mojtaba: use gparted for that
[16:56] <mojtaba> frame45: could you please tell what should I do? I am a newbie
[16:56] <mojtaba> Stdedos: gparted do not work
[16:57] <Stdedos> error message?
[16:57] <frame45> @mojtaba open gparted let it scan and find the usb, select and delete the partition, then create a new partition and format it as FAT32,
[16:58] <mojtaba> frame45: I did it, but it says it is read-only and can not do that.
[16:58] <oliverp> llutz: There is no such service. I've always invoked dhclient like that before, to force a new dhcp request. How do I make a dhcp request (manually) without invoking dhclient directly? :-)
[16:59] <frame45> @mojtaba is there a hardware switch on your usb?
[16:59] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  I suppose u use windows. There is tool called Rufus. Try that. That might be able to forcefully format ur usb dive.
[16:59] <mojtaba> frame45: No, it is just a simple one with no switch
[16:59] <mojtaba> Capprentice: I am in ubuntu 12.10 now
[16:59] <llutz> oliverp: idk, i'd call dhclient also direct. do you have dhclient3 too? try that
[17:00] <oliverp> llutz: Ok, thanks. Yeah i've tried that too. I'll search some more. :)
[17:00] <llutz> oliverp: btw what ubuntu-version are you using? i didn't get that message on my 12.10
[17:00] <oliverp> 12.04 LTS
[17:00] <Stdedos> anyone knows where other ubuntu support threads reside?
[17:01] <oliverp> llutz: the error also said "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" - Maybe I need to delete some dhcp-lease-files?
[17:01] <cronus> oliverp, maybe this message is network-manager related
[17:01] <oliverp> cronus: ok, i'll look into that
[17:02] <oliverp> don't think I have network-managger
[17:02] <dixoncx> Help regrading connecting EVDO modem in 12.04. Modem detected and connected using wvdial, no internet access. Details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596474/
[17:02] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I make a USB disk writeable?
[17:02] <frame45> mojtaba, did you unmount the partition first?
[17:03] <mojtaba> frame45: Yes
[17:04] <mojtaba> frame45: what should I do after that?
[17:05] <frame45> mojtaba, select the partition so it has the dotted line around it, then clcik Partition from the menu at the top and select delete; is that when it's giving you the read-only error?
[17:06] <mojtaba> frame45: Yes
[17:06] <drobins> hello sirs
[17:07] <drobins> is there something in chromium like noscript + adblock of firefox?
[17:07] <frame45> mojtaba, will it let you run check?
[17:07] <mojtaba> frame45: let me see that.
[17:08] <mojtaba> frame45: It says it is unable to open it.
[17:08] <mojtaba> and do not let me check it.
[17:08] <Capprentice> yes adblock plus works on Chromium and GoogleChrome. Go to adblockplus.org and install the addon from there.
[17:09] <frame45> mojtaba, I am assuming that you can read existing files from the drive?
[17:09] <mojtaba> frame45: Yes I can read the content
[17:10] <frame45> mojtaba, do you know where it is attached at? mine is /dev/sdc1 (that's where the partition is)
[17:11] <mojtaba> frame45: It is mounted at /dev/sdc1
[17:11] <drobins> PLEASE
[17:11] <drobins> I NEED IT
[17:11] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  install teamviewer and allow some1 to look intro ur problem'
[17:12] <chro> It is possible for a user being logged on and not having a home folder?
[17:12] <h00k> drobins: Check the chrome application store online
[17:12] <frame45> mojtaba, ok open terminal and see if you can run the gparted check manually, "dosfsck -a -w -v /dev/sdc1
[17:12] <anew> where are the mail logs stored ?
[17:14] <chro> is it possible for me to hide my home folder for the rest of the users?
[17:14] <genii-around> anew: Most likely somewhere like /var/log/     .. mail.err and mail.log
[17:15] <asdofindia> chro: you can restrict access to your home folder
[17:17] <anew> sSMTP[10932]: Unable to locate mail
[17:17] <anew> anyone have any help with this error message ?
[17:18] <Lalalalala> help! i installed windows xp after ubuntu installation. How do i bring grub2 back? Im currently on the liveCD
[17:18] <Capprentice> encryptfs will encrypt the home folder and lock it from other users.
[17:19] <Capprentice> Lalalalala, install "EasyBCD community Edition. Use that to create an entry for Ubuntu in Windows Bootloader.
[17:20] <Lalalalala> Capprentice: I was thinking of reinstalling grub2..
[17:20] <asdofindia> Lalalalala, try grub-install
[17:20] <asdofindia> Lalalalala, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[17:21] <llutz> !grub | Lalalalala
[17:22] <elijah> I am trying to have a simple script execute with a keyboard shortcut, the command the shortcut is executing is gnome-terminal -e "script.sh" (which is in my $PATH). I keep getting http://ubuntuone.com/3z8xqHhlJGWxsqwIY3eIAW
[17:22] <ccallahan> @ping
[17:22] <Lalalalala> thanks everyone!
[17:22] <elijah> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[17:22] <elijah> "Failed to execute child process "clear-p7-cache.sh" (No such file or directory)"
[17:23] <elijah> Works fine when executing within terminal (not shortcut)
[17:23] <llutz> elijah: test it usinf "gnome-terminal -e "/full/path/to/script.sh""
[17:24] <elijah> llutz: good idea, thanks
[17:26] <mikef> i have an app thats distributed in binary form but depends on some 3rd party opensource lib thats in the repos how best would an installer get them onto the computer where the user is installing? add the repo update and install it or what? is there a some standard practice for this scenario? what are my options if not?
[17:26] <ccallahan> Hello! I have a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 that has a UEFI BIOS. When I try to install Ubuntu using my USB mouse and keyboard, it doesn't recognize the keyboard and mouse. The BIOS will use them. GRUB will use then (when I try to install in UEFI mode). The Ubuntu pre-boot menu will use them. But when the GUI loads up, it just doesn't want to use them. I think it's
[17:26] <ccallahan> a kernel issue, and I was wondering if there are any flags I can throw at it.
[17:28] <ccallahan> The disk is Ubuntu 12.10x64.
[17:28] <buffymcmuffy> anyone know when 13.04 will hit beta?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> buffymcmuffy  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[17:29] <buffymcmuffy> thanks
[17:30] <Joakimw> Hey guys, i have an issue with my computer booting with English keyboard enabled, even though the only layout I currently have installed is Danish. I have the 12.10 version of Ubuntu installed
[17:31] <elijah> llutz: doesn't do anything when I quote everything
[17:32] <mario212> any idea as to how to change the kernel messages like "Segmentation Fault"?
[17:32] <alfirus> hello, i read Full Circle Magazine #65. in Q&A section, editor mentioned jupiter can be use to cool our pc/laptop. however it seems jupiter facing error during installation (http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/04/fix-laptop-overheating-problem-in.html), do anyone know how to install this? if this jupiter 'out of service', is there any other similar? by the way i'm using Ubuntu 12.
[17:33] <llutz> elijah: naa, not quoting everthing, just try calling your script with full path
[17:33] <jrtappers> Can I add comments to .ssh/authorized_keys so I can label which key is which?
[17:34] <Fare> how do I find which library provides xdrstdio_create ? I'm trying to compile gcl, and it can't find it. the symbol is defined in rpc/xdr.h which is part of the libc6-dev package (ubuntu 12.04LTS), but for i in $(dpkg -L libc6-dev | fgrep '.a') ; do echo $i ; nm $i 2> /dev/null | grep xdrstdio_create ; done shows it's used by libnsl.a but not provided by anyone
[17:35] <Fare> am I missing a library? is it a bug in ubuntu?
[17:35] <llutz> !find xdrstdio_create
[17:36] <Krustyklimber> hi... can anyone tell me how to enable java in my firefox browser?
[17:36] <lunitik> Can do that locally via apt-file search, too
[17:36] <Fare> ubottu: thanks a lot!
[17:36] <Fare> llutz, thanks a lot
[17:36] <lunitik> Krustyklimber: Which Java?
[17:37] <anon_2> hallo. ich hab gerad ubuntu 12.04 installiert. die wlan verbindung lief nach der installation, nach dem neustart plötzlich nach ca. 10min, nach dem nächsten neustart in etwas auch, wobei ich dann dennoch nicht ins internet konnte. wie bekomm ich mehr information warum das solange dauert/was falsch läuft?
[17:37] <Krustyklimber> I downloaded RPM
[17:37] <llutz> !de | anon_2
[17:37] <anon_2> sorry
[17:37] <xangua> !java | Krustyklimber
[17:37] <lunitik> Krustyklimber: sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin
[17:38] <Fare> llutz, looks like gnulib has the documentation for the function, but no library with it
[17:40] <davidsloan> Do I ask support questions here?
[17:40] <lunitik> !ask
[17:40] <Pici> davidsloan: Yes
[17:40] <anew> so i am trying to set up sendmail... what do i put for smtp server ?
[17:40] <billkd> anew : where are you sending mail from?
[17:40] <anew> from my server
[17:41] <billkd> anew: localhost or 127.0.0.1
[17:41] <Fare> looks like I'm hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1130452
[17:41] <anew> thanks
[17:41] <llutz> anew: why on earth are you using sendmail? :)
[17:41] <anew> dunno i am using a codeigniter library
[17:41] <anew> and the options are sendmail or smtp
[17:41] <billkd> anew: then use smtp
[17:41] <Krustyklimber> lunitik, thanks that worked !!! :)
[17:41] <anew> is that better? ok then i will have a couple more questions
[17:42] <anew> what is my smtp user and pass ?
[17:42] <billkd> anew: it's more direct and so you don't have to use that insecure piece of crap. Yes, go ahead with questions
[17:42] <billkd> anew: does your server require authentication? What smtp package are you using?
[17:42] <anew> ok smtp host is still 127.0.0.1 then
[17:42] <anew> hmm i dont know i will have to read about this first before i ask questions then
[17:43] <anew> is smtp - postfix ?
[17:43] <billkd> anew: yes
[17:43] <billkd> anew: then if you use default config user and password are blank
[17:43] <alfirus> !ask hello, i read Full Circle Magazine #65. in Q&A section, editor mentioned jupiter can be use to cool our pc/laptop. however it seems jupiter facing error during installation (http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/04/fix-laptop-overheating-problem-in.html), do anyone know how to install this? if this jupiter 'out of service', is there any other similar? by the way i'm using Ubuntu 12.
[17:43] <anew> do i have to uninstall sendmail to use postfix ?
[17:44] <rogier> #list
[17:44] <billkd> anew: no
[17:44] <billkd> anew: sendmail is the client, postfix is the server.
[17:44] <anew> cool let me give shit s ago then
[17:44] <rogier> is there a command to get the channel list
[17:44] <llutz> anew: if you just want to send mails out, i'd suggest using ssmtp/msmtp instead of a full featured mail-server
[17:44] <anew> *this
[17:44] <anew> oops lol
[17:44] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> alfirus  it's a ppa, not supported here, better contact the maintainer
[17:44] <Pici> !alis | rogier
[17:45] <rogier> is there a command to get the channel list!alis
[17:45] <davidsloan> I am very new to Linux and just built my first computer. I'm running a dual boot with Windows 7.  Motherboard is GA-78LMT-S2P, and LAN is Atheros/Realtek GbE. I am connecting through my router (on another computer of course) via wire. Windows 7 finds the connection fine, Ubuntu does not. Light in back does not even come on...
[17:45] <rogier> !alis
[17:45] <alfirus> thanks MonkeyDust.
[17:45] <Pici> rogier: no, read what ubottu said about alis
[17:45] <billkd> davidsloan: ubuntu version?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> rogier  type /msg alis list *blah*
[17:46] <davidsloan> 12.10
[17:46] <elijah> llutz: Still same thing = gnome-terminal -e ~/bin/clear-p7-cache.sh
[17:46] <billkd> davidsloan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:46] <elijah> llutz: This does the same =>  gnome-terminal -e "~/bin/clear-p7-cache.sh"
[17:47] <alfirus> well, it looks like the maintainer also 'out of service'. Any other similar like jupiter, MonkeyDust?
[17:47] <lunitik> billkd: Why are you telling him to install codecs and stuff when he has a networking issue?
[17:47] <elijah> When assigning this to a keyboard shortcut => gnome-terminal -e "~/bin/clear-p7-cache.sh" OR gnome-terminal -e ~/bin/clear-p7-cache.sh BLAH I get this error http://ubuntuone.com/3z8xqHhlJGWxsqwIY3eIAW
[17:48] <afflicto-laptop> Using pidgin, I remember being able to respond directly in the notify popup, but I'm not able to now. Am I missing something? (using Gnome shell)
[17:48] <davidsloan> It said... unable to fetch some archives
[17:48] <billkd> davidsloan: sudo apt-get update first
[17:48] <billkd> davidsloan: oops sorry forgot you didn't have network
[17:48] <elijah> It does appear that gnome-terminal is not using any of my aliases or $PATH
[17:49] <lunitik> afflicto-laptop: In Gnome Shell that is the default action of Empathy, you can see if extensions.gnome.org has the same for pidgin (it does, but I don't remember the name of it, just search there for pidgin)
[17:49] <billkd> davidsloan: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and tell me what happens
[17:49] <afflicto-laptop> lunitik: k I'll try that thanks :)
[17:49] <anew> root and postmaster mail recipient
[17:49] <anew> can i leave this blank ?
[17:50] <billkd> anew: yes or specify an administrator's email in form user@domain
[17:50] <anew> if i leave it blank what is it sent to ?
[17:50] <davidsloan> ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[17:50] <anew> root@domain ?
[17:50] <billkd> anew: I think it sends to root@127.0.0.1 by default
[17:51] <billkd> davidsloan: do you know the kernel module that your wifi card uses?
[17:51] <anew> will leave it blank i think that's best ?
[17:51] <billkd> anew: or specify the server admin's email
[17:51] <davidsloan> Not sure what that means.
[17:51] <llutz> anew: enter a user of that system who gets those mails. root doesn't read mails
[17:51] <billkd> anew: for I think anacron reports and things like that
[17:51] <lunitik> afflicto-laptop: Note that Gnome Shell has built in messaging, and so you don't actually need a client... just go into the settings and configure online accounts, then searching the overlay thing for contacts tells you if they're online.
[17:52] <escott> davidsloan, sounds like the driver (what we call a kernel module) for your network device is not working correctly. can you identify the chipset with lspci or lshw
[17:52] <billkd> davidsloan: what wifi card do you have?
[17:52] <escott> billkd, davidsloan said he was using the ethernet connection
[17:52] <nearst> howdy
[17:52] <davidsloan> Not setting up wifi.
[17:52] <anew> shoot already passed that step
[17:53] <anew> well let me test it out
[17:53] <anew> to send an email i just :
[17:53] <lunitik> davidsloan: throw the output of lspci onto paste.ubuntu.com please
[17:53] <anew> mail user@mail.com
[17:53] <davidsloan> Not sure what that means.. sorry guys..
[17:54] <billkd> davidsloan: OK do this :
[17:54] <anew> hmmm damn i'm in the body of the emil but how do i send it now
[17:54] <billkd> anew: I think a . on its own line
[17:54] <jhutchins_wk> davidsloan: People tend to not make the connetion between "I'm trying to set up networking" with "that means I can't cut and paste to the internet".
[17:54] <anew> nope
[17:54] <billkd> OK type in the following commands
[17:54] <lunitik> davidsloan: hit the windows key, type 'term' and fire up the terminal... type 'lspci | grep -i net' and tell us what it says
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> davidsloan: So what you actually need to do is use lspci -nn and figure out which line pertains to your ethernet chipset, then copy that line here.
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> davidsloan: Or just the eight character identifier.
[17:55] <anew> weird it says . by itself like u said but it's not working
[17:55] <afflicto-laptop> lunitik: yea I know but pidgin is better for me as I use skype + irc :P
[17:55] <llutz> anew: "enter dot enter"
[17:55] <lunitik> afflicto-laptop: I didn't know pidgin supported skype... hm
[17:56] <anew> llutz i'm just stuck with no prompt
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> anew: In the mailx program (mail), you end the text by hitting Ctrl-D
[17:56] <anew> ah ok that work
[17:56] <anew> but not sure if it sent
[17:56] <siracs> hi
[17:56] <afflicto-laptop> lunitik: apt-get install pidgin-skype :)
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> anew: It will either ask you for a CC or it will queue the message.  /var/log/mail.log may show you what it did.
[17:57] <davidsloan> lspci | grep -i net: command not found
[17:57] <anew> cool off to var/log/mail then
[17:57] <rogier> When i boot up my laptop the back light is set to 0. This is not very nice cause it looks like the laptop is broken. Off course you can see if you turn it up using the fn keys. How do i set it so that it's on when i start it?
[17:57] <billkd> rogier: every laptop has different ways of changing the backlight. What model do you have?
[17:58] <siracs> i have a problem with the "VGA Arbiter" .. i have no DRI cause of it "(WW) R128(0): Direct rendering is not supported when VGA arb is necessary for the device  /  (EE) R128(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI."
[17:58] <lunitik> afflicto-laptop: apt-cache show pidgin-skype says it works with libpurple, which telepathy uses for most protocols, and thus telepathy-kde and empathy would work with it.
[17:58] <siracs> what can i do?
[17:58] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: The single period on a line is useful when testing with a telnet connection to the mailserver.
[17:58] <lunitik> afflicto-laptop: ie, it doesn't actually need pidgin itself
[17:58] <anew> Mar  8 17:52:09 barcelona postfix/master[14865]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use
[17:58] <rogier> @billkd itś  a Hp pavilion dm4
[17:58] <anew> that's what i got
[17:58] <afflicto-laptop> lunitik: you lost me.. :P
[17:59] <rogier> billkd: HP pavilion
[17:59] <escott> siracs, buy a new computer
[17:59] <billkd> anew: do you have another smtp server besides postfix installed? Or another server that uses port 25?
[17:59] <jhutchins_wk> anew: Sounds like your mailserver isn't set up yet.
[17:59] <billkd> rogier: try this : sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools
[17:59] <anew> billkd not sure, it is possible
[17:59] <anew> how can i uninstall all previous mail servers
[17:59] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: i'm using heirloom-mailx. there the . works as desired
[17:59] <davidsloan> Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[18:00] <siracs> escott: i simply want to use the old box as kitchenbox
[18:00] <ccallahan> Hello! I have a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 that has a UEFI BIOS. When I try to install Ubuntu 12.10 X86_64 using my USB mouse and keyboard, it doesn't recognize the keyboard and mouse. The BIOS will use them. GRUB will use then (when I try to install in UEFI mode). The Ubuntu pre-boot menu will use them. But when the GUI loads up, it just doesn't want to use them.
[18:00] <ccallahan> I think it's a kernel issue, and I was wondering if there are any flags I can throw at it.
[18:00] <lunitik> davidsloan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/237004/atheros-ar8161-ethernet-card-not-working-on-12-10-on-an-asus-n56vm
[18:00] <escott> siracs, then use it as such, but you wont have DRI
[18:01] <anew> how can i find out what is running on port 25 ?
[18:01] <llutz> anew: sudo lsof -i :25
[18:01] <anew> lsof command not found
[18:01] <rogier> oke does it have a gui
[18:01] <ccallahan> I was going to suggest nmap, but that works as well.
[18:01] <siracs> escott: any chance to tell that arbiter that he should ignore the onboard card and simply use the r128 ?
[18:02] <rogier> how do send someone a message ? Like that their name appears in it?
[18:03] <escott> siracs, if you want to write your own driver sure
[18:03] <rckrd> anyone familiar with postfix mail servers?  Im running a web server on the same machine as i want to run this mail server, but im not sure how to set the DNS records
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> rogier  type [nickname] blah blah
[18:03] <siracs> normaly i can configure everything, i cant believe that there are no option to tell the arbiter whats arround
[18:03] <anew> k installing lsof
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> rogier  type [/nickname] blah blah
[18:04] <anew> sendmail- 13473 root    4u  IPv4 1789788      0t0  TCP localhost:smtp (LISTEN)
[18:04] <billkd> rogier: or, to private message, /msg nickname message
[18:04] <anew> sendmail is on port 25
[18:04] <anew> hmmm
[18:04] <lunitik> davidsloan: Note that where it has uname -r in a box, you can just do $(uname -r) ... I'm not sure why they've decided to write it that way
[18:04] <anew> is sendmail - smtp ?
[18:04] <billkd> anew: apt-get remove sendmail
[18:04] <anew> i should uninstall sendmail
[18:04] <lunitik> davidsloan: would recommend wired connection to set it up though
[18:04] <escott> siracs, you dont need dri for your proposed usage
[18:04] <billkd> anew: yes, apt-get remove sendmail and then try using mailx with postfix
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> rogier  my first repsonse was correct, but if you want to pm someone, ask first if you're allowed to
[18:05] <davidsloan> I'm pretty lost...
[18:05] <rogier> billkd: like this
[18:06] <billkd> [rogier] I think
[18:06] <siracs> escott: it would be nice to get a faster deskop .. only 2d but that would be ok with me
[18:06] <lunitik> davidsloan: Stop trying to understand, just do what the link says. You will need a wired connection to follow the steps though, then you can have wireless once the steps are completed.
[18:06] <rogier> [MonkeyDust] Like this/
[18:06] <rogier> [billkd] like this
[18:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> lunitik: that is very win$ of you to say
[18:06] <rogier> nope
[18:06] <davidsloan> But I have no wired connection to begin with...
[18:07] <rogier> Do you have a laptop with wire to share the wifi?
[18:07] <lunitik> ntzrmtthihu777: He can learn later, I want it to actually work first.
[18:07] <siracs> davidsloan: plug your computer directly into your router, maybe it's not comfy but you need it only to setup wireless
[18:07] <lunitik> rogier: Your system doesn't have a NIC? You lack cables? Why can't you use wired?
[18:08] <davidsloan> That's my current setup, and it's not recognizing in Ubuntu, it recognizes it in WIndows 7, though...
[18:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> making a nautilus script to open gprename in the current directory. it works unless there is a space in the name. its pretty simple, 2 lines, a bash shebang and gprename "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_CURRENT_URI" what do I need to fix to make it work with spaces.
[18:09] <Plumblum> evning gents, could somone tell me where to fine the locals
[18:09] <Plumblum> or what it is called
[18:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Plumblum: locale -a
[18:09] <Plumblum> i uninstalled python3 and now whenever i use pyhon from command line it tells me to change $pythonhome
[18:10] <lunitik> davidsloan: Ahh, I misunderstood... there is a way to do this from windows, hold on
[18:10] <Plumblum> ntzrmtthihu777, then im not looking for locale :P i must have messed up the names
[18:11] <anew> hmmm do ihave to restart ubuntu?
[18:11] <anew> for this to take effect
[18:11] <nearst> :)
[18:11] <anew> i uninstalled sendmail and it says it's still there on port 25
[18:11] <billkd> [/anew] try service networking restart as root
[18:12]  * lunitik doesn't know of any tool that will download deps on Windows for an Ubuntu install without networking  :/
[18:12] <anew> service network restart
[18:12] <lunitik> aptoncd seems to not do deps and doesn't seem to run on windows
[18:12] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I make a USB disk writable?
[18:12] <lunitik> anew: no
[18:12] <ccallahan|mIRC> Hello! I have a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 that has a UEFI BIOS. When I try to install Ubuntu 12.10 X86_64 using my USB mouse and keyboard, it doesn't recognize the keyboard and mouse. The BIOS will use them. GRUB will use then (when I try to install in UEFI mode). The Ubuntu pre-boot menu will use them. But when the GUI loads up, it just doesn't want to use them. I think it's a kernel issue, and I
[18:12] <ccallahan|mIRC> was wondering if there are any flags I can throw at it.
[18:13] <rogier> Is there anyone here selling weed?
[18:13] <Capprentice> ??????
[18:13] <billkd> !ot
[18:13] <Plumblum> Enviroment variables i meant :)
[18:13] <anew> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: it should be writeable. do you have anything on it?
[18:13] <ccallahan|mIRC> I sense a kickban in the future.
[18:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> ccallahan|mIRC: as do I
[18:13] <anew> weird.... still says sendmail on port 25
[18:13] <anew> after that
[18:13] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: It is not writable, I want to format it, but it says that it is read-only
[18:14] <Capprentice> ubottu,  hello bot ! are u a real person ?
[18:14] <davidsloan> don't forget about me.
[18:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: and you can't format it, da hell.
[18:14] <Capprentice> ubottu,  wow ! u r fast ...
[18:14] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes I can not format it
[18:14] <lunitik> anew: Drivers are missing, I'm not asking for networking help, I need a tool for windows that will download deb packages and their deps so we can get davidsloan's NIC working
[18:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: what are you using to try and format it with?
[18:15] <ccallahan|mIRC> Capprentice: And you can't speak proper English I see.
[18:15] <anew> lunitik what ?
[18:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> lunitik: no tool needed, just earch for them.
[18:15] <anew> not asking for networking help?
[18:15] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: I have tried gparted
[18:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: very strange. did you unmount it first?
[18:15] <Capprentice> ccallahan|mIRC,  hmm yes.
[18:15] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes I did.
[18:15] <ccallahan|mIRC> Hello! I have a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 that has a UEFI BIOS. When I try to install Ubuntu 12.10 X86_64 using my USB mouse and keyboard, it doesn't recognize the keyboard and mouse. The BIOS will use them. GRUB will use then (when I try to install in UEFI mode). The Ubuntu pre-boot menu will use them. But when the GUI loads up, it just doesn't want to use them. I think it's a kernel issue, and I
[18:15] <ccallahan|mIRC> was wondering if there are any flags I can throw at it.
[18:16] <lunitik> ntzrmtthihu777: one of them is a meta-package, I don't want to have to tell him to seek every dep etc
[18:16] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: I guess a virus in windows makes it write protected.
[18:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: would not matter.
[18:16] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: do you what should I do?
[18:17] <billkd> mojtaba: from a gnome-terminal try fdisk /dev/sdxx
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: you try formatting it on a windows machine?
[18:17] <anon_2_12_04> i don't like my wlan icon. it looks the same if i'am connected, try to connect or not. is there another solution? use ubuntu 12.04
[18:17] <billkd> mojtaba: then o then w
[18:17] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: It did not allow me to format it in windows
[18:17] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  hey man i was telling u pls pls try using an win machine to format that usb.
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: what is the make and model of the usb stick
[18:17] <Capprentice> it will work. Use rufus.
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: I just said that, and he said it does not work.
[18:18] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: I could not format it in windows.
[18:18] <Xchatnova> hola
[18:18] <Xchatnova> D:
[18:18] <mojtaba> I have not windows machine now by the way
[18:18] <Xchatnova> saludos!
[18:18] <Xchatnova> :D
[18:18] <FloodBot1> Xchatnova: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: How can I find it?
[18:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | Xchatnova
[18:19] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: how should I find the model?
[18:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: should be written on the stick somewhere
[18:19] <Xchatnova> gracias ubottu
[18:19] <Xchatnova> =D
[18:19] <Xchatnova> bye!
[18:19] <anew> so should i try restartingthe whole thing ?
[18:19] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: It is not clear.
[18:20] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: Do you know what should I run to format it?
[18:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: well short of me having it in my hand I can't work with this small amount of info.
[18:20] <davidsloan> I'm still here. What's going on?
[18:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: do you know what /dev/sd## it is?
[18:20] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: I can pastebin the information you need.
[18:20] <mojtaba> it is /dev/sdc1
[18:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: how big
[18:21] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: 4 GB
[18:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: do you have a 4gb file handy, like a windows iso?
[18:21] <Capprentice> mojtaba, it is a pen drive right ?
[18:21] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: what do you mean?
[18:21] <mojtaba> Capprentice: I guess
[18:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: something on your hard-disc totalling 4gb
[18:22] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  what ?? well if u insert a pen drive it should start as sdbX. x =1,2  etc
[18:22] <mojtaba> ntzrmtthihu777: The information is not important, I just want to format it.
[18:23] <Capprentice> try installing a iso using unetbootin into that usb drive. It mightbe able to forcefully dlete everything within it.
[18:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: I was gonna suggest dd'ing a big file onto it.
[18:24] <escott> mojtaba, the only write protected usb flash i have ever heard of is u3, and the best practice is usually just to throw those in the trash
[18:24] <kallep> anyone who have exp in moving a mysql database to external hdd?
[18:25] <mojtaba1> escott: Do not you know how can I format it?
[18:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: why use unet when we already have a built in one?
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> kallep: Stop serer, move files to new location, point server to new location, start server.
[18:25] <escott> mojtaba, if it is u3, i would honestly recommend throwing it away
[18:26] <mojtaba1> escott: how can I find it is u3 or not?
[18:26] <Capprentice> mojtaba,  look friend, I have a usb drive made of SIGMATEL which have a small lock button on its right side. With tht button I can make the data read only. Check if there is somekind of button on any side to lock data inside it.
[18:26] <escott> mojtaba, there are some u3 tools im not familiar with their usage
[18:26] <mojtaba1> Capprentice: It is a simple USB disk with no locking utility.
[18:26] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  what tool we have ? Im not aware of that.
[18:27] <elijah> llutz: Solved, it was because I was using a relative path, it wanted a full absolute path. I think it is because it must launch the process as another user. Since the script itself is not aware of my $PATH or any of my aliases.
[18:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: usb-creator-gtk
[18:27] <mojtaba1> what is usb-creator-gtk?
[18:27] <llutz> elijah:thats why i suggested to test it using "gnome-terminal -e "/full/path/to/script.sh""
[18:27] <anew> mail.err.1 mail.info.1 mail.log.1 can i delete all these logs ?
[18:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba1: its like unetbootin for ubuntu but better
[18:27] <anew> the .gz logs can i delete so many of them...
[18:27] <elijah> llutz: Yeah, I guess I didn't catch that
[18:28] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  i guess it does not have an launcher attacted to it ?!
[18:28] <mojtaba1> ntzrmtthihu777: what is unetbootin?
[18:28] <llutz> elijah: but glad you solved the issue
[18:28] <jhutchins_wk> anew: Usually you use logrotate to maintain the logs, and you can configure how many how big are retained.
[18:28] <elijah> llutz: Do you know how I would make my script have everything in $PATH available to it?
[18:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: it has one, search your dash
[18:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba1: basically can take an iso and copy it to a usb drive bootable
[18:28] <Capprentice> ntzrmtthihu777,  i will do it later. Im now on Fedora 17.
[18:28] <elijah> Basically how to run gnome-terminal as myself
[18:29] <llutz> elijah: add a "PATH=/what/ever" line to the script
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: unetbootin is a program to create a USB installer.
[18:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: ctrl+alt+t
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Can you read but not write?
[18:29] <llutz> elijah: it should run as your user
[18:29] <elijah> llutz: I will try that
[18:29] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: Yes
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Have you tried as root?
[18:29] <mojtaba1> yes
[18:29] <escott> mojtaba1, i would discourage you from trying anything with unetbootin until you can confirm it is not a u3 disk, as u3 will almost certainly not boot
[18:29] <elijah> ntzrmtthihu777: It is when I run gnome-terminal as a keyboard shortcut
[18:30] <Capprentice> mojtaba1,  do a thing - opn terminal then - gksu nautilus then go to usb. try deleting.
[18:30] <Capprentice> files
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: have you looked at dmesg to see why?
[18:30] <mojtaba1> escott: How can I find if it is u3 or not?
[18:30] <elijah> llutz: Do you know how I can find out what it is running as?
[18:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: you always run gnome-terminal as yourself
[18:30] <llutz> elijah: start it, check "ps" then
[18:30] <escott> mojtaba1, i dont know, but if you search for "u3 usb linux" you will probably find some instructions
[18:30] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: I can paste the result here
[18:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: echo $USER
[18:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: I think
[18:31] <Capprentice> whoami
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: I think he may mean usb3, in which case dmesg, but I don't know why he thinks that's no good.
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: More important for you to read and understand it.
[18:31] <elijah> ntzrmtthihu777: K, that is working, I put it in my script and it says it is me
[18:31] <elijah> When I run gnome-terminal as a keyboard shortcut though my aliases don't work in my commands
[18:32] <elijah> Nor does my $PATH
[18:32] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: You can find the result of the dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596718/
[18:32] <Plumblum> can i reset my Environment Variables somehow ? when i uninstalled a python version if fucked something up
[18:32] <mojtaba1> Do you know what should I do?
[18:33] <anew> argh idiot at my hosting company told me to close port 25
[18:33] <elijah> It is like it never loads my .bash_profile
[18:33] <anew> well port 25 is closed, but how do i start postfix now to use it
[18:33] <anew> because he doesnt know
[18:33] <elijah> I did an echo $PATH in the script and it differs from an echo $PATH when I run it normally
[18:33] <rogier> i want to install supermeat boy, Iǘe got a file named supermeatboy-06072012-bin how do install this?
[18:34] <mojtaba1> did you check that?
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: U3 is apparently some new USB firmware feature that may make the drive harder to work with, not USB 3.
[18:34] <elijah> yeah, nothing in .bashrc or .bash_profile gets loaded
[18:34] <escott> jhutchins_wk, no i mean U3
[18:34] <Nach0z_> um
[18:34] <Nach0z_> U3 is nothing new
[18:34] <elijah> mabye it isn't using bash
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: If it tries to run special software instead of just presenting as a removable drive in Windows that may be U3.
[18:35] <elijah> how would I print my shell out?
[18:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: $PATH differs between
[18:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> echo $SHELL
[18:35] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: I am in ubuntu, do you know how can I format it?
[18:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: $PATH differs between root and normal user
[18:35] <mojtaba1> I have pasted the result of the dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596718/
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: The demesg log looks like bad hardware.
[18:36] <escott> mojtaba1, some U3 will present themselves to the OS as two devices, one a USB the other a CDROM device
[18:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> elijah: you can get the stuff from .bashrc using source $USER/.bashrc
[18:36] <OerHeks> escott, there is an U3-tool to remove that tools
[18:36] <mojtaba1> escott: I got it, it is not u3
[18:36] <Penguin_> Has anyone seen COLORS around here lately?
[18:36] <elijah> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah, but the one with a different $PATH is being run as the same $USER
[18:37] <elijah> Confirmed it is using bash
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Ordinarily you would do mkfs.exte /dev/sda1 - but that might not work here since you're getting hardware errors.
[18:37] <elijah> just not going through the normal .bash_profile loading
[18:37] <Sub-Zero_> Hello
[18:37] <elijah> maybe a restart would fix it?
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Remove drive, dmesg -c, attach drive, dmesg and post only relevant (new) lines.
[18:37] <escott> elijah, are you telling gnome-terminal to run a login shell?
[18:37] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: You mean unplug it?
[18:38] <punto2> 10.04. how can i deactivate the overlapping in the starter? for instance i want 1 icon for each firefox window. not all at 1.
[18:38] <elijah> escott: hmm, no, I am not!
[18:38] <elijah> escott: How would I do that?
[18:39] <anew> argh
[18:39] <anew> anyone can help me with postfix
[18:39] <escott> elijah,
[18:39] <anew> nothing is on port 25
[18:39] <escott> elijah,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/40287/etc-profile-not-being-sourced/40313#40313
[18:39] <anew> and i check mail.log and dont see anything
[18:39] <elijah> escott: thx
[18:39] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Yes.  umount it first if it's mounted.
[18:39] <anew> and where are the logs for sent emails?
[18:39] <anew> i cant find them
[18:40] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: It is not mounted
[18:40] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: I have umount it
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> anew: /var/log/mail.log /var/log/mail.err
[18:40] <elijah> escott: I already have that checked
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: So unplug, clear dmesg, re-connect & dmesg
[18:40] <elijah> escott: But a different question
[18:41] <elijah> escott: So .bashrc should be loaded everytime regardless if it is a login shell?
[18:41] <elijah> escott: Is there a way to tell what state a shell is? login or not?
[18:41] <anew> argh yeah no email and nothing showing in logs jhutchins_wk
[18:41] <escott> elijah, i dont remember all the rules on bash login. should be in the info pages for bash startup
[18:42] <elijah> escott: k, thanks
[18:42] <escott> elijah, and i doubt there would be any way to tell from within the shell
[18:42] <Sub-Zero_> modem related question. I use Wvdial. modem stops receiving data but keeps sending data.
[18:42] <elijah> k
[18:42] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: with the USB disk removed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596745/
[18:42] <mojtaba1>  and with it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5596748/
[18:44] <llutz> elijah: shopt -q login_shell && echo 'Login shell' || echo 'Not login shell'
[18:44] <davidsloan> I was talking to one of the users and he is now away... He told me to do this for my problem..  Grab this ISO and burn it to CD : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/wheezy_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso
[18:44] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: Do you know what should I do?
[18:44] <elijah> llutz: Beautiful!
[18:45] <llutz> elijah: or short "shopt login_shell"
[18:45] <davidsloan> I used Brasero to burn image and it said some files may not have burned correctly.
[18:45] <mojtaba1> I just want to format a USB disk.
[18:46] <davidsloan> I put it into my Ubuntu tower and it found the CD but nothing on it..
[18:46] <llutz> mojtaba1: your usb-device seems broken
[18:46] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Only lines 3478-3497 are significant, but the fact that it immediately goes into error mode indicates that the hardware is probably bad.
[18:46] <elijah> llutz: broader bash question, the first command you gave. Does the echo work of true false? like a sort of ternary operation?
[18:47] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: then there is no way to format it in low level mode?
[18:47] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: You can try 1) make sure it's unmounted, 2) see what fdisk -l thinks about it, 3) see if fdisk /dev/sdc works, 4) if so, delete and recreate the partition, then format it.
[18:47] <Nimble> I'm trying to get my touchpad to work with multitouch gestures. I know the hardware has support for it because it works in windows, but on ubuntu the only thing that works is two finger scrolling. Anyone know what I can do?
[18:47] <escott> elijah, if the first command returns error then the second is short circuited out of the logic evaluation jumping to the third
[18:47] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: No, once USB/flash drives fail they're done.
[18:48] <llutz> elijah: yes, "command  && do something if command succeeds || do something if command fails"
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: Nothing on a flash drive is yours to keep forever.
[18:48] <elijah> That is awesome!
[18:48] <escott> elijah, if the first succeeds then the second is evaluated which always succeeds and the third is short circuited out
[18:48] <davidsloan> Anyone?
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages to latest, including the kernel, for each respective release, correct?
[18:49] <elijah> It turns out my gnome-terminal launched as a keyboard shortcut is not a login shell. But what is weird is that it isn't even getting what is in .bashrc
[18:49] <escott> elijah, again im not sure it would
[18:49] <escott> elijah, non-login shells are for scripts generally or when the encompassing environment is already parsed
[18:50] <escott> elijah, a non-login shell probably doesn't read anything
[18:50] <toke> hello
[18:50] <escott> davidsloan, you should not be doing what was suggested
[18:51] <elijah> escott: From the link you posted "while~/.bashrc should do stuff which is required everytime bash is started. "
[18:51] <escott> davidsloan, don't mix debian and ubuntu packages
[18:51] <davidsloan> Ok.. what do I do?
[18:51] <toke> I tried to log in, and it just keeps going back to the login screen
[18:52] <eutheria> how can i see which dns server i am using now
[18:52] <toke> And when I try and access that accounts files from a different account, theere's just a "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" file
[18:52] <toke> Any ideas?
[18:52] <anew> fatal: open database /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.db: No such file or directory
[18:52] <anew> any help with this error ?
[18:52] <eutheria> the /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf seems to be empty
[18:52] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: I have not any important file on it, and I just want to format it
[18:53] <Nimble> toke: your data is encrypted
[18:53] <Nimble> so you wont be able to see it from another user
[18:53] <llutz> anew: postfix.org has superb documentation for that, read it.
[18:53] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba1: You can try 1) make sure it's unmounted, 2) see what fdisk -l thinks about it, 3) see if fdisk /dev/sdc works, 4) if so, delete and recreate the partition, then format it.
[18:53] <Nimble> when you say that you try to log in toke, do you mean from the graphical greeter?
[18:53] <anew> hmm is that the site
[18:53] <toke> Yes I do Nimble
[18:53] <Nimble> ok
[18:54] <Nimble> at the login screen press ctrl+alt+f1
[18:54] <toke> It flashes something in the portal, then goes back
[18:54] <mojtaba1> jhutchins_wk: I umount it and run the fdisk -l, but it says there is something wrong with the table...
[18:54] <toke> Okay
[18:54] <Nimble> and then log in there
[18:54] <mojtaba1> partition table
[18:54] <davidsloan> Someone please help.
[18:54] <toke> What then nimble?
[18:54] <Nimble> it works fine?
[18:55] <Nimble> you should be at a command line
[18:55] <toke> Yeah
[18:55] <Nimble> did you install anything before you logged out last time
[18:55] <Nimble> or change any settings
[18:55] <toke> errm
[18:56] <toke> I tried to put porteus on my memory stick
[18:56] <davidsloan> I am very new to Linux and just built my first computer. I'm running a dual boot with Windows 7.  Motherboard is GA-78LMT-S2P, and LAN is Atheros/Realtek GbE. I am connecting through my router (on another computer of course) via wire. Windows 7 finds the connection fine, Ubuntu does not. Light in back does not even come on...
[18:56] <toke> 1 sec, ill find the command i used
[18:56] <eutheria> well this is annoying, i've not idea what dns servers i am using
[18:56] <Nimble> k
[18:57] <shady_beast> hey man, how do i connect to jtv? >jtvirc.com
[18:57] <Praash> Hey guys, I've had trouble accessing my new Ubuntu Server machine through SSH. Turns out that the machine is not able to connect to the internet at all. Could someone help me set up the network configurations?
[18:57] <h00k> shady_beast: with a web-browser?
[18:57] <toke> It was mkdir "/mnt/loop mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/loop"
[18:57] <Sub-Zero_> modem related question. I use Wvdial. modem stops receiving data but keeps sending data.
[18:57] <shady_beast> k
[18:57] <toke> But with the path/to/file pointing to the porteus iso
[18:58] <john_rambo> While installing Mobile Media Converter I am getting this .... http://pastebin.com/bUJZD8BJ
[18:58] <shady_beast> ty
[18:58] <Sub-Zero_> modem related question. I use Wvdial. modem stops receiving data but keeps sending data.
[18:58] <Nimble> hm
[18:58] <Nimble> did you use the quotes like that, too?
[18:58] <toke> No quotes
[18:59] <escott> elijah, is what you are running non-interactive
[18:59] <davidsloan> I am very new to Linux and just built my first computer. I'm running a dual boot with Windows 7.  Motherboard is GA-78LMT-S2P, and LAN is Atheros/Realtek GbE. I am connecting through my router (on another computer of course) via wire. Windows 7 finds the connection fine, Ubuntu does not. Light in back does not even come on...
[18:59] <elijah> escott: Yeah, I just need to watch the output and then it closes
[18:59] <elijah> escott: it clears cache on my local website (Drupal)
[18:59] <escott> elijah, there are different rules for non-interactive shells
[18:59] <Nimble> toke, on the terminal you have open run this without quotes "cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager"
[18:59] <elijah> escott: gtk
[18:59] <Nimble> and paste the output here
[18:59] <Nimble> should be one line
[19:00] <h00k> davidsloan: you don't even get a link-light when plugged in?
[19:00] <ioria> davidsloan: you have to configure samba, i think
[19:00] <escott> elijah, your non-interactive script should make no assumptions about what the environment is, you should also be aware that /bin/sh is not bash
[19:00] <toke> It returns /usr/sbin/lightdm
[19:00] <davidsloan> no Light.
[19:00] <Nimble> k
[19:00] <escott> elijah, so verify your shebangs are correct as well
[19:00] <toke> But I'm doing it from a different account
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> I suppose we could have told mojtaba1 to dd zeros to the the device, but I think it's toast.
[19:00] <elijah> escott: I am using /bin/bash
[19:00] <h00k> davidsloan: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:01] <davidsloan> But when I am running windows 7, I do..
[19:01] <davidsloan> 12.10
[19:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: many thanks for your links and help, I now have microsoft office beutifully integrated into my gnomemenu
[19:01] <kingbeast> davidsloan, pm?
[19:01] <elijah> escott: #!/bin/bash
[19:01] <h00k> !pm | kingbeast, davidsloan
[19:01] <elijah> escott: Is that correct? (my first time)
[19:01] <Nimble> toke: Try running these in order "sudo stop lightdm" "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" "sudo restart lightdm"
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> davidsloan: on-board NIC?
[19:01] <davidsloan> sure
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> davidsloan: Not USB?
[19:01] <escott> elijah, for bash yes. but for a non-interactive script you should probably assume that nothing is being read
[19:02] <davidsloan> On board
[19:02] <kingbeast> su h00k
[19:02] <elijah> escott: I will read up on non-interactive scripts
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> lspci -nn, find the network chipset.
[19:02] <elijah> escott: It is working okay for now! Thanks for all your help
[19:02] <escott> elijah, just put any variables you need in the script, in the actual script. if you want to share some variables between your script and an interactive session, put them into another file and source them in bashrc as well as the script
[19:04] <kasva_> Hi
[19:05] <toke_> @nimble
[19:05] <toke_> hello?
[19:05] <Nimble> toke_:
[19:05] <Nimble> toke: Try running these in order "sudo stop lightdm" "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" "sudo restart lightdm"
[19:05] <kasva_> Turkish was here?
[19:05] <toke_> Thanks, after I ran the first one it went on to that screen that comes up when I try and log in
[19:05] <escott> Nimble, toke_ sudo service lightdm stop
[19:05] <Nimble> oh
[19:05] <Nimble> whoops, escott is right
[19:05] <Nimble> I forgot to put service
[19:06] <escott> and certainly not sudo restart lightdm that will reboot the computer
[19:06] <b3> i have two headsets connected to pc. how do i make them output same sound?
[19:06] <kasva_> Hi dedik la n :D
[19:06] <CallingPanther> Anyone know about Dancer-IRCD?
[19:06] <Nimble> well, he's not on the computer right now
[19:06] <Nimble> he can't get a graphical login
[19:06] <escott> (or more likely fail and complain that it doesnt understand lightdm argument
[19:06] <Nimble> wait
[19:06] <toke_> So I need to do them in this order? "sudo service lightdm stop" "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" "sudo restart lightdm"
[19:07] <escott> toke_, sudo service lightdm restart (or just start at that point)
[19:07] <b3> i have two headsets connected to pc. how do i make them output same sound?
[19:07] <toke_> Okay, let me try again
[19:07] <Nimble> yeah, what escott said
[19:07] <Nimble> I made an error in copying it here
[19:07] <Nimble> sorry
[19:08] <escott> Nimble, happens. thats why we keep it in channel
[19:08] <b3> i have two headsets connected to pc. how do i make them output same sound?
[19:08] <mojtaba> Any other idea to format a USB disk?
[19:08] <TIEInt> How can I block my pi from undergoing auto-sleep? eventually want to go to wake-on-lan, but for now, would like always on.
[19:08] <escott> mojtaba, you could probably get a job at a fast food joint and make the money you need to buy a new one in the time it would take to fix the broken one
[19:09] <lakcaj> b3: http://www.hiconn.net/files/SCDC02.jpg
[19:09] <escott> (assuming it is even fixable)
[19:09] <mojtaba> !ubuntu | escott
[19:09] <Nimble> does anyone know how to get touchpad gestures working?
[19:09] <mojtaba> !language | escott
[19:10] <mojtaba> Any idea to format a USB disk?
[19:10] <Nimble> 3 finger and 4 finger gestures, specifically
[19:10] <B10ph0b1C> hy fellas!!! does anyone knows about some group of zend framework 2?
[19:10] <Nimble> mojtaba, you can try gparted
[19:10] <b3> lakcaj: how to do that through software?
[19:10] <Sub-Zero_> hi!
[19:10] <mojtaba> Nimble: the problem is that the usb disk become read-only.
[19:10] <escott> mojtaba, yes i know what ubuntu is, and yes i know what cursing is... but i wasn't cursing. im offering you advice
[19:11] <OerHeks> mojtaba, your usb is broken, it is hard to fix a crashed usb stick.
[19:11] <lakcaj> b3: not sure, but those little splitters are only a few bucks.
[19:11] <escott> mojtaba, you are wasting your time (its your time to waste, but you are wasting it)
[19:11] <mojtaba> escott: I am looking to this problem educational.
[19:11] <b3> lakcaj: okay
[19:11] <Nimble> it becomes unreadable right after you format it in gparted?
[19:11] <Sub-Zero_> Modem stops receiving data. help
[19:11] <b3> /quit
[19:12] <tw> I'm trying to make a USB grub2 boot disk as follows http://pastebin.com/9F0eKh3z , What I want is a a grub cli, what I get is "GRUB loadingRead Error". Any idea what I should be doing differently?
[19:12] <escott> mojtaba, a piece of microscopic hardware produced in china at the cheapest possible price point and with weak to inadequate quality control has failed. throw it away
[19:12] <mojtaba> Ok
[19:13] <new_toke> Hey again
[19:13] <escott> mojtaba, if you want a laugh read about http://blog.jitbit.com/2011/04/chinese-magic-drive.html
[19:13] <new_toke> @escott When I put in that command, it went to the screen I get when I try and login.
[19:13] <new_toke> And showed the error
[19:13] <Nimble> what error?
[19:13] <new_toke> which was something like mountall: disconnected from plymouth
[19:13] <escott> new_toke, "the error"?
[19:14] <new_toke> or unmount*, can't remember
[19:14] <escott> new_toke, thats not an error
[19:14] <mojtaba> escott: Thanks
[19:14] <rckrd> does anyone know how i do DNS management with a postfix mail server?
[19:14] <new_toke> Then I didn't know how to get back here, so I restarted my computer, and had to login through ctrl+alt+f1 and startx
[19:14] <new_toke> But the screen was blank apart from the wallpaper
[19:15] <new_toke> So I got here by typing firefox in terminal
[19:15] <nearst> mail server usually use mx for dns :-s
[19:15] <new_toke> I'm so confused
[19:15] <ioria> wellcome in the club
[19:15] <escott> new_toke, thats usually indicative of a failure of 3d support. install the 2d shell and try to select that at logic
[19:15] <nearst> new_toke, nothing confused
[19:15] <escott> login
[19:15] <rckrd> nearst: yeah but whats the exact configuration
[19:16] <new_toke> okay
[19:16] <Nimble> does anyone know how to enable the multitouch gestures in unity?
[19:17] <nearst> rckrd, http://rimuhosting.com/support/settingupemail.jsp?mta=postfix
[19:18] <elixir> Hi. How can I degrade my gnome shell version? Presently I have 3.6.2.
[19:18] <rckrd> nearst: thanks ill take a look
[19:19] <nearst> rckrd, ya.. gudluck.
[19:19] <toke> Hey
[19:19] <toke> Using the 2d thing let me back on with the menu and stuff
[19:19] <toke> Still not sure how to get on to my encrypted account :(
[19:19] <toke> Can I get those commands again?
[19:20] <escott> toke, encrypted account?
[19:20] <toke> I just mean the account I can't get onto
[19:20] <toke> If it wasn't encrypted, I'd just backup its files and reinstall
[19:21] <escott> toke, if you encrypted it you need the password
[19:21] <tw> did you save your ecryptfs keys?
[19:21] <toke> I know the password
[19:21] <escott> toke, so why cant you login to that account
[19:21] <toke> And when I log in at the login screen it just flashes a console, and sends me back to the login screen
[19:21] <toke> That's why I came on here haha
[19:22] <toke> I'm on the guest account at the moment
[19:22] <escott> toke, the guest account is going to be useless
[19:22] <toke> Yeah, sorry, I made a new admin account
[19:23] <toke> But I still can't get back on my original account :(
[19:23] <escott> then you can open a terminal, and su username to that user, and then follow the instructions in ~/.Private to mount the ecryptfs partition
[19:23] <escott> !ecrypfts
[19:23] <escott> !ecryptfs
[19:23] <escott> !encrypted | toke this will probably describe how to mount the ecryptfs manually
[19:24] <davis776> is possible to remembers FTP login forever in nautilus?
[19:24] <theadmin> davis776: Add a bookmark
[19:24] <toke> Okay thanks guys
[19:24] <anew> now getting a 'mail command not found'
[19:25] <escott> !find mail | anew
[19:25] <davis776> theadmin, where?
[19:25] <anew> escott i have postfix installed shouldnt that be good enough ?
[19:25] <davis776> theadmin, oh I see
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> davis776: the answer to any "is it possible" question in linux is yes, the problem is whether it has been figured out yet or widely known.
[19:26] <toke> When I su toke, I get mount: Operation not permitted
[19:26] <Sub-Zero_> hello all want help with modem.
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | Sub-Zero_
[19:28] <toke> @escott su toke returns mount: Operation not permitted
[19:28] <escott> toke, does it not change your EUID?
[19:28] <Lainey41214> Hello, I need help.
[19:29] <toke> Nope
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | Lainey41214
[19:29] <prashant_123456> i am sick and tired of frequent ubuntu updates any solutions ?
[19:29] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Uh, don't use Linux. Updates are *good*. They help keep you secure.
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: sit in the dark ages, get hit with security breaches.
[19:30] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ntzrmtthihu777 yes i know that but i have a very slow internet connection about 28kbps only and thats why i said that
[19:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: you will not find an operating system that does not update.
[19:30] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Then don't install updates all the time... Say once a month should be fine.
[19:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: dear god, monthly updates on 28kbs? are you crazy?
[19:31] <prashant_123456> theadmin, yes your solution is good enough to update once in a month
[19:31] <loganrun> I have a shared printer that suddenly stopped printing, jus says the printer is not responding. I have it shared via cups on my ubuntu server and am trying to print from another ubuntu computer
[19:31] <loganrun> on the server via cups I can print the test page no problem
[19:32] <loganrun> not sure how to tell what is going on
[19:32] <Juanito_Velasque> Does anyone know if links2 has a irc channel?
[19:32] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, it seems that they don't want to install updates frequently. So, the solution is to install them non-(un?)frequently
[19:32] <prashant_123456> theadmin, how much download i have to spend if i update once in a month ?
[19:32] <prashant_123456> theadmin, approx
[19:32] <Juanito_Velasque> Or an online documentation?
[19:32] <Lainey41214> I put ubuntu on a usb stick to install. Everything is installed and working, but i can't remove ubuntu from my usb stick to put other stuff on it. I tried formatting and running disc check on my other computer which has windows.  The usb stick says it's full even though there isn't anything in there. Did I break the usb stick? All I did was try to delete the ubuntu iso.
[19:32] <Sub-Zero_> modem connects to internet succesfully.  After some time (after receiving approx 1MB) it stops receiving data but keeps sending data. The connection also remains active.
[19:32] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Really depends on how active the developers have been. Probably around 150M I'd say unless LibreOffice was suddenly updated.
[19:32] <loganrun> it has dnssd://HP%20LaserJet%201320%20series%20%40%20charity._ipp._tcp.local/cups for the device URI
[19:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I get that, but a months worth of updates at once would be hellish at 28kips
[19:33] <theadmin> prashant_123456: The real solution to your problem is getting a better internet connection.
[19:33] <prashant_123456> theadmin, because of ubuntu frequent updates i was thinking to switch to arch linux !!
[19:33] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Err... Arch updates *daily*.
[19:33] <theadmin> Well, more or less.
[19:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: what he said
[19:34] <prashant_123456> theadmin, but i cannot afford more than this
[19:34] <selena2013> new changes coming ot ubuntu first ROLLING REALEASE
[19:34] <Lainey41214> I accidentally closed the window. Should I write that again?
[19:34] <selena2013> then the switch from x window to Mir
[19:34] <tongcx> hi guys, how could i list all packages installed?
[19:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> tongcx: dpkg --list, I think
[19:34] <tongcx> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks
[19:34] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ntzrmtthihu777 i am using arch in virtualmachine and it does not ask for updates i m using arch from last 3 months !
[19:35] <theadmin> tongcx: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'install$' | awk '{print $1;}'
[19:35] <leptone> id like to make a bootable cd of 12.04. for the sole purpose of storing a bitcoin wallet. how do i do this. does anyone know an article?
[19:35] <selena2013> Arch is for advance users
[19:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: that's because it had no gui to bug you with
[19:35] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Because you're supposed to "pacman -Syu" manually, it won't "ask" you about anything.
[19:36] <Lainey41214> After you put the 'ubuntu iso' in a usb stick, are you able to use it again for other things?
[19:36] <escott> leptone, how could you store the wallet on a CD?
[19:36] <theadmin> Lainey41214: Well, after formatting, yes
[19:36] <escott> Lainey41214, you can make a persistent usb
[19:36] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ntzrmtthihu777 actually i use icewm in archlinux and i think it is good enough lightweight and yet powerful !
[19:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: livecd
[19:36] <theadmin> !ot | prashant_123456
[19:36] <tongcx> theadmin: how could i let it also show descriptions?
[19:36] <davidsloan> OK, so this kind person got me this far, now I don't know where to go from here.  Having problems with Ethernet connection (wired) he said to download compat-wireless-pc package. I did that and put it on a CD that is now in the nonworking machine. He then said I had to manually install it with the command line and referenced this link...http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-c
[19:36] <davidsloan> ontroller Not sure where to go from here. Please help!!
[19:37] <leptone> escott, idk :)  https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet "Paper Wallets" third paragraph
[19:37] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ubottu is it a warning for me from ubottu ?
[19:37] <leptone> sry 4th paragraph
[19:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: are they stored as .deb?
[19:37] <Lainey41214> I'm having trouble formatting. I tried to format it on my other computer (windows), but nothing happens. It won't let me disc check either.
[19:37] <Sub-Zero_> help with modem
[19:37] <davidsloan> Gonna have to dumb it down..
[19:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: yeah, this is #ubuntu. we help with ubuntu
[19:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: can you look in the cd
[19:38] <davidsloan> nope.
[19:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: why not.
[19:39] <prashant_123456> ntzrmtthihu777, yep i agree ubuntu is great and makes me feel powerful !
[19:39] <davidsloan> Nothing is showing up.
[19:39] <davidsloan> Just that it's a data disk.
[19:39] <theadmin> Lainey41214: How did you create the USB stick?
[19:39] <qwertyomen> prashant_123456: Mua hahaha
[19:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: open the filebrowser, check the side panel for the cd
[19:40] <prashant_123456> qwertyomen, great
[19:40] <leptone> anyone know how i could make a bootable ubuntu cd work for storing a bitcoin wallet
[19:41] <davidsloan> Says Data Disk, then when I click, nothing..
[19:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: you will have to create a live cd
[19:41] <Lainey41214> I ran usb live creator.
[19:41] <qwertyomen> prashant_123456: I'm sitting in class right now with issri in the command line scrolling down it's on dedicated monitor and my classmates are like dude what are you doing?
[19:41] <theadmin> leptone: You can make custom CDs with Remastersys, Reconstructor, Relinux and UCK. None of them work too great but you might have some luck
[19:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: right-click, open
[19:41] <davidsloan> I just put it on a flash drive and found it...
[19:41] <havok> Hey, Anyone have a link for instructions that work to install wow? I have it copied onto my linux partition, I have wine, and I have PlayOnlinux
[19:41] <theadmin> havok: #winehq
[19:42] <davidsloan> Run the program?
[19:42] <julian-delphiki> and / or check out the appdb
[19:42] <Lainey41214> I'm sorry. I used Unetbootin.
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: ok, that works. now what is the extensions for the file
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> havok: playonlinux has an installer script.
[19:42] <davidsloan> ....tar.bz2
[19:42] <theadmin> Lainey41214: Hm, okay, well, recreate the partition table. On Ubuntu you can use GParted, on Windows, go to Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk/Volume management and use that.
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: ah, its source package.
[19:43] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, yeah i know how to do that. but ive only used live cd's to do installs. can i save data to the disk. will i just select "try ubuntu" each time i boot from the disk?
[19:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: you need to right-click the file and chose extract here
[19:43] <elixir> Hi. I am using ubuntu 12.10 and" gnome-shell --version" gives me 'gnome-shell --version'. I am not able to install Axe Menu from extensions.gnome.org. Please help ! Badly stuck here since long ?
[19:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: not much experience there.
[19:44] <theadmin> elixir: You're not supposed to type commands with quotes, you know that right?
[19:44] <davidsloan> Extract it in the Flash Drive?
[19:44] <havok> Huh, what do you mean by an installer script? ntzrmtthihu777,
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: if it has space, yes
[19:44] <keldwud> *Krieger
[19:44] <keldwud> whoops, wrong channel
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> havok: open playonlinux, click install, click the games icon, and then scroll down for wow
[19:45] <elixir> theadmin: Didn't had idea. Will take care in future. Can you guide me with my query?
[19:45] <davidsloan> Done.
[19:45] <havok> Oh!
[19:45] <theadmin> elixir: Well, Gnome Shell isn't really an environment that's common with Ubuntu and I only glanced at it once and ran away in horror so I'm afraid not :P
[19:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: do you have nautilus-terminal installed?
[19:45] <nima_> hello guys!
[19:46] <Lainey41214> I tried to create a partition table, but it says that it's currently active.
[19:46] <davidsloan> Don't know what that is..
[19:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lainey41214: unmount it
[19:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: ok, open a terminal, and type cd /media/ then hit tab twice
[19:46] <nima_> i want canon i-SENSYS mf4400 drivers for ubuntu but i can't find it!
[19:46] <Chat4131> Hey
[19:46] <elixir> theadmin: lol, np ;) I seems that its time for me too to run :P
[19:46] <nima_> how can i find it!>
[19:46] <nima_> ?
[19:46] <Lainey41214> If I unmount it, then it won't show up.
[19:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lainey41214: yes it will, if you are under ubuntu
[19:47] <davidsloan> Ok.
[19:47] <escott> Lainey41214, ubuntu will also automatically swapon any swap devices it sees so if you have one of those it will make the partition active
[19:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: it should have listed a few things, one is your usb stick. cd into it
[19:47] <theadmin> Lainey41214: Use GParted to unmount, Nautilus doesn't have a sane way to unmount devices (it ejects them instead, thereby removing their /dev nodes)
[19:47] <toke> retrieve a few of my important files from the encrypted account (I have no idea how to do this)
[19:47] <nima_> i know but it can't find its  drivers!
[19:48] <davidsloan> one of them IS my usb stick..
[19:48] <nima_> what can i do?!
[19:48] <Lainey41214> I'm using gparted. When I unmount, the partition doesn't show.
[19:48] <escott> toke, have you looked at the instructions in ~/.Private or on the !encrypted link
[19:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> nima_: best I can say is google your distro and the device
[19:48] <nima_> i googled it but no choice!
[19:48] <toke> I don't now how to get to it, as I can't su to the account
[19:48] <escott> Lainey41214, there is a difference between unmounting and ejecting. if you unmount through nautilus it will unmount and eject.
[19:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: exactly, cd into the usb stick, and then into the new folder you got from extracting the tarball
[19:49] <escott> Lainey41214, you can manually unmount with "sudo umount /media/whatever
[19:49] <davidsloan> You lost me.
[19:49] <nima_> any chance?!
[19:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: when you tapped tab twice it gave you some options, right?
[19:49] <bazhang> nima_, check linuxprinting.org database for drivers
[19:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | nima_
[19:49] <anew> when i set my system mail name... can i make it mysite.com or do i have to make it mail.mysite.com ?
[19:50] <davidsloan> I didn't know those were options.
[19:50] <toke> @escott I don't now how to get to it, as I can't su to the account
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: yes, those are options, type the one that matches your usb device
[19:50] <OerHeks> nima_,  http://www.canon.nl/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/Laser/LaserBase_MF_series/i-SENSYS_MF4410.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:16-823016&page=1&type=download but i don't have experience with canon drivers
[19:51] <davidsloan> Now I'm at: media/sloan/SecureGuard$
[19:51] <Snake2k> Hello everyone, im new to ubuntu, I ran a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and I got this problem "http://codepad.org/utTUCCNj".. How do i remove this?
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: ok, what was the folder when you extracted it
[19:52] <escott> toke, get to what?
[19:52] <toke> ~/.Private
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> escott: his thingus.
[19:52] <davidsloan> compat-wireless-3.6.8-1
[19:52] <theadmin> Snake2k: PPA entries are stored under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, just remove the respective files.
[19:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: cd com then tab
[19:53] <Snake2k> theadmin: Thank you :)
[19:53] <escott> toke, the same way you would get to any other folder on the system. /home/whatever/.Private
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> Snake2k: Comment out that repo in your sources.list
[19:53] <theadmin> Snake2k: There's also a neat graphical app for that, software-properties-gtk ("Software Sources" in the menus)
[19:53] <davidsloan> lost me again.
[19:54] <nima_> i'm downloading the drivers you said but what am i gonna do with it?!
[19:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: cd means change directory. cd foo moves you into the folder foo
[19:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> nima_: read the readme
[19:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: you can complete long names in the terminal by typing the first few letters then tab
[19:54] <Snake2k> jhutchins_w: Thanks, doing that :).. theadmin: I'll check that out :)
[19:55] <nima_> i can not understand its not English!
[19:55] <Juanito_Velasque> nima_: Then you are in the wrong channel, look for you localiszed channel
[19:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: so in your case cd com<tab> will expand to cd compat-wireless-3.6.8-1
[19:55] <leptone> im trying to make a bootable ubuntu usb. not a live cd for install. rather im looking for i distro i cn put on a disk boot from that disk and write to that disk. anyone?
[19:56] <davidsloan> got it.
[19:56] <theadmin> leptone: Just install Ubuntu to the stick then, as you would to a hard drive.
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> !persistent | leptone
[19:56] <bazhang> nima_, what does the linuxprinting.org database say about that printer? did you go to the link and check yet?
[19:56] <davidsloan> The folder came up.
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: you hit enter?
[19:56] <bazhang> leptone, make it a persistent usb
[19:56] <toke> Yes haha, but when I try and get to /home/toke I get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "toke"
[19:56] <theadmin> How can I configure TTYs to display non-ASCII characters? Currently almost any Unicode is rendered as a square :/
[19:56] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, thx
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: what theadmin said. use a cd to install to the usb stick
[19:56] <toke> @escott Yes haha, but when I try and get to /home/toke I get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "toke"
[19:56] <davidsloan> Yes.
[19:57] <Lainey41214> I tried unmounting from terminal. It says 'sudo: unmount: command not found. I put 'sudo unmount /media/[myusername]/[nameofusbstick]'
[19:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: do ls, there should be a file like config in the folder
[19:57] <bazhang> Lainey41214, its umount, not unmount
[19:57] <davidsloan> when I hit enter   :    media/sloan/SecureGuard/compat-wireless-3.6.8-1$
[19:57] <superkuh> Is there a PPA for newer versions of glib? I am using 10.04 (lucid) still but I can't compile most new software because of dependency issues. Compiling glib myself and configuring it correctly is extremely daunting.
[19:58] <escott> toke, then sudo -i
[19:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: very good.
[19:58] <bazhang> superkuh, search the ppa at launchpad and find out
[19:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: now type ls then enter
[19:58] <escott> toke, you might also try sudo su username if you were just trying su username
[19:58] <escott> toke, i dont know if that will make a difference or not
[19:58] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas   <------- superkuh
[19:58] <theadmin> escott: That's better done as "sudo -u username -i"
[19:58] <davidsloan> Bunch of things cam up..
[19:59] <superkuh> Thanks bazhang.
[19:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: please address me by name so I can notice you better.
[19:59] <anew> system mail name = hostname, but is hostname my machine name ?
[19:59] <theadmin> anew: Yes, it's what's written in /etc/hostname
[19:59] <davidsloan> ntz....  I'm guessing everything in the folder
[19:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: one should be something like config or config.sh or configuration
[19:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: just type ntz<tab>
[20:00] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, config.mk
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: when your name is at the start of a message it highlights, so I can see it better.
[20:00] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, there is a ubottu command for that too   !tab
[20:00] <tgm4883> !tab
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: really, interesting.
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: thankya
[20:00] <tgm4883> yw
[20:00] <Lainey41214> Now it says 'sudo: /media/[username]/FLASH_drive: command not found'
[20:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: chmod +x config.mk
[20:01] <Lainey41214> I'm sorry if I'm really bad at this. I'm new to ubuntu.
[20:01] <davidsloan> type that?
[20:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lainey41214: we were all new once.
[20:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: yes, then hit enter
[20:01] <theadmin> Lainey41214: sudo umount /media/username/FLASH_drive
[20:02] <anew> thx theadmin
[20:02] <zorky> hello. anyone who can help me. i duel booted win8 and ubuntu. from win8 i deleted the ubuntu partition. now i get a grub rescue. i knew i would lose the abillity to boot into win8. so i tried various things. booting win8 install. didn't work. tried ubuntu livecd. running boot repair. and it has been stuck on scanning system the past 30 min now. please help
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: would it not simply mount to /media/FLASH_DRIVE
[20:02] <anew> can i leave root and postmaster mail recipient blank?
[20:02] <escott> zorky, UEFI or bios?
[20:02] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: I think that's a change introduced in 12.10, now it mounts in /media/username/device_label instead of /media/device_label
[20:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: :/ not sure I like that.
[20:03] <zorky> escott, please elaborate?
[20:03] <qwertyomen> zorky: try using the 8 disk for repair
[20:03] <Lainey41214> theadmin that's what I put, but it keeps saying 'command not found'
[20:03] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, took me back to media/sloan/SEcureGuard/compat-wireless-3.6.8-1$
[20:03] <cprofitt> +1 theadmin that is how it works
[20:03] <zorky> qwertyomen, please explain?
[20:03] <theadmin> Lainey41214: Can you give me what exactly did you put?
[20:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: supposed to.
[20:03] <t00tie> any hints on troubleshooting this? 12.04 lts, wired network, dmesg is full of [ 6529.671219] jme 0000:08:00.5: eth0: UDP Checksum error
[20:03] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, it looks like you forgot to 'umount' part
[20:03] <baltar> Is nvidia-313-updates a patch? It doesn't work standalone
[20:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: now do ./config.mk
 Now it says 'sudo: /media/[username]/FLASH_drive: command not found'
[20:03] <toke> @escott /.private just contains lots of files and folders with names like ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWbc9JLhslQyhkQa3t.xMepxqqtu8VuPkSoRoAjBxsedcnw1GcNnIHEX.U--
[20:04] <escott> zorky, is your system a UEFI or bios system?
[20:04] <qwertyomen> zorky: if you use the windows 8 install disk, you often have a choice to repair a previous installation
[20:04] <afflicto-laptop> I just enabled some stuff in compiz settings manager. How do i "apply" them?
[20:04] <escott> toke, i dont know where they put the mounting instructions. they are somewhere
[20:04] <zorky> qwertyomen, yes. but it didn't work
[20:04] <zorky> escott, bios
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> toke: you would likly be better off just using tab completion and no @
[20:04] <Lainey41214> it says 'umount: /media/[username]/flash_drive: not found'
[20:04] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, permission denied
[20:04] <escott> toke, and there wont be much in that directory so just looking around should point it out
[20:04] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, im reading thro the article now. do i need a persistent distro?
[20:04] <toke> Okay
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: sudo ./config.mk
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: If you use an install cd to install to usb it won't matter.
[20:05] <toke> ntzrmtthihu777 What is tab completion?
[20:05] <escott> zorky, then you could use http://robert.penz.name/221/mini-howto-restore-windows-mbrbootloader-with-linux/
[20:05] <davidsloan> command not found.
[20:05] <AkTiV> free shells -> irc.fewona.net /j fewona
[20:05] <davidsloan> Sorry ntzrmtthihu777 , Command not found..
[20:06] <bazhang> AkTiV, dont paste that here
[20:06] <h00k> AkTiV: do not spam in here
[20:06] <AkTiV> ok
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: your usb stick will be in effect your hdd
[20:06] <AkTiV> bazhang ??
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> toke: try this, type ntz and then tab
[20:06] <zorky> escott, will try
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: is there a readme in the folder/
[20:06] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, what about 'ls /media'
[20:07] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, yes.
[20:07] <qwertyomen> escott: adding that one to my bookmarks :D
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: pastebin it
[20:07] <toke> ntzrmtthihu777: Ahh I see
[20:07] <toke> THanks
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> toke: when you do that your name is highlighted for the person you sent to, easier to notice
[20:08] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, What does that mean
[20:08] <Lainey41214> tgm4883 That didn't work either.
[20:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:08] <toke> escott: I found a readme in the toke folder
[20:08] <dougl_> When you take a print screen.... how do you capture that as a file
[20:08] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, can you pastebin the exact command you  typed?
[20:08] <zorky> escott, can't install mbr from sudo apt-get install mbr
[20:08] <toke> escott: From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private
[20:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: paste.ubuntu.com should have you something for you.
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> dougl_: check your pictures folder.
[20:09] <dougl_> ok
[20:09] <toke> escott: But doing doing the graphical one, nothing happens. And ecryptfs-mount-private in terminal returns Inserted auth tok with sig [ca39e5b4b49d9604] into the user session keyring fopen: No such file or directory
[20:09] <leptone> ooh interesting. so basically i boot from the cd and select the usb as the HD / mount point. do i need a swap partition?
[20:09] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, ok, did that
[20:09] <Lainey41214> When I try to unmount from gpart, it says 'could not unmount /dev/sdf1' Underneath, it says exactly what the terminal said 'Umount: /media/[username]/flash drive: not found.
[20:09] <qwertyomen> zorky: sudo apt-get install syslinux
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: yeah, its a good idea if you do so.
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: did what, the install?
[20:10] <dougl_> any other ideas
[20:10] <zorky> qwertyomen, allrdy install
[20:10] <zorky> installed
[20:10] <qwertyomen> zorky: Oh I see now...
[20:10] <davidsloan> Lot's of 'could not resolve' and 'unable to fetch'
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: derp, forgot this was a networking issue
[20:10] <Snake2k> Hello guys, me again, thanks for the previous solution it worked :) but now im getting a duplicate source.list entry error something.. http://codepad.org/MxVvIKLA.. I ran sudo apt-get update as it recommended but no fix :(.. I took a look at my sources and i couldn't find duplicates.. Is keeping the sources for both amd64 and i386 result in duplicating?
[20:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: can you link me where you got it from
[20:11] <superkuh> Hm. No PPA for lucid with glib >2.27. I need 2.28. Assuming i have no idea what I am doing, if I manage to compile and install 2.28 will I break everything?
[20:11] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, ok does it need to be as big as my RAM. 8 GB?
[20:11] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777,  that's happened alot over the course of me trying to fix this.. haha..
[20:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: if its just a usb stick not really, you are not gonna use it all the time are you?
[20:11] <Lainey41214> For some reason, I just can't get it to unmount without ejecting.
[20:11] <qwertyomen> zorky: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828
[20:11] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777,  Where I DL'd the compat folder from
[20:11] <zorky> qwertyomen, package mbr is not available, bu is referred to by anoher package
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: can you link me where you got it from
[20:12] <escott> toke, i dont have any practical experience with ecryptfs as i dont use it
[20:12] <davidsloan> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download/stable/#compat-wireless_3.6_stable_releases
[20:12] <tgm4883> Snake2k, you'd need to pastebin your sources.list
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: which one did you download
[20:13] <zorky> qwertyomen, unable to locate ms-sys. that didn't work either
[20:13] <Snake2k> tgm4883, sure wait :)
[20:13] <qwertyomen> zorky: This might be it... http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/mbr
[20:13] <anew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix guys i'm following this step by step and there is one point on the page it says to open /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
[20:13] <selena2013> just installed faenza icons look awesome
[20:13] <anew> but this file doesnt exist
[20:13] <maveas> Doesn't KVM on Ubuntu support _native_ paravirt?
[20:13] <maveas> I'm getting "Host does not support virtualization type 'xen'" when I'm trying to install an VM (--paravirt)
[20:13] <anew> can anyone help
[20:13] <selena2013> is there a easier way to install icons and themes like in mint
[20:13] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, under kernal release... compat-wireless-3.6.8-1.tar.bz2
[20:14] <zorky> qwertyomen, i need the ppa
[20:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: ok, let me download it.
[20:14] <Snake2k> tgm4883: http://codepad.org/8KnkIDl2
[20:15] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, no, just for bit coin wallet. how big would u recommend?
[20:15] <davidsloan> ntzrmtthihu777, no problem. Should we PM?
[20:15] <Lainey41214> If it won't unmount without ejecting, does it mean it's broken?
[20:15] <tgm4883> Snake2k, do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:15] <kevrodg>  /part
[20:15] <superkuh> Do you think using Debian backports of Glib 2.28 would work on Ubuntu lucid?
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: no idea, I don't know jack about bit coin wallet
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> davidsloan: sure, go ahead
[20:16] <danol> ello
[20:16] <danol> Anyone any experience with lol?
[20:16] <danol> -> league of legends
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ot | danol
[20:16] <superkuh> danol, yeah... I use playonlinux for it to manage the wine installs.
[20:16] <Snake2k> tgm4883, Yes i do.. for the 'extras' i have 2 files.. ubuntu-extras.list and ubuntu-extras.list.save.. Is this the problem?
[20:16] <havok> Does anyone know why Xchat GNOME is recommended? It seems to be a pain in the butt compared to regular Xchat
[20:17] <FlowRiser> danol, i play LoL ... you want it on linux ?
[20:17] <tgm4883> Snake2k, probably. You have it listed in sources.list and in ubuntu-extras.list (i'm guessing). The .save file isn't an issue
[20:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> havok: use irssi, its a termanal irc client
[20:17] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, i dont really know what a swap partition is...
[20:17] <tgm4883> Snake2k, can you pastebin the ubuntu-extras.list file
[20:17] <Snake2k> tgm4883, Sure
[20:18] <Snake2k> tgm4883:  http://codepad.org/XOgHN2Kv    contents of ubuntu-extras.list
[20:18] <tgm4883> Snake2k, yea that is the problem
[20:19] <tgm4883> Snake2k, Just remove the extras lines from sources.list
[20:19] <Lainey41214> Is it safe to assume that my usb stick is broken?
[20:19] <tgm4883> leave that file
[20:19] <Snake2k> tgm4883, any one line?
[20:19] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, I don't know the original issue you had, but I've not seen the (requested) complete command you ran
[20:20] <tgm4883> Snake2k, looks like line 57 and 58 on  http://codepad.org/8KnkIDl2
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !swap | leptone
[20:20] <zorky> qwertyomen, It's working now :)
[20:20] <zorky> qwertyomen, got my OS booted up now
[20:20] <ronalds> kde 4.10 has got even better
[20:20] <ronalds> with new versions
[20:20] <ronalds> of some things
[20:20] <havok__> Does anyone know why Xchat GNOME is recommended? It seems to be a pain in the butt compared to regular Xchat
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | havok
[20:20] <ronalds> use quassel
[20:20] <Snake2k> tgm4883, Okay should i remove those 2 lines?
[20:21] <tgm4883> Snake2k, yes
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> !best | havok
[20:21] <Lainey41214> sorry about that.
[20:21] <ronalds> quessel gives options to take of people who join and leave
[20:21] <ronalds> the chat
[20:21] <jhutchins_wk> havok__: Are you running gnome?
[20:21] <ronalds> maybe xchat too, but couldn't find them
[20:21] <bazhang> ronalds, try in #quassel
[20:22] <Lainey41214> 'sudo umount /media/lainey/flash_drive
[20:22] <Lainey41214> [sudo] password for lainey:
[20:22] <Lainey41214> umount: /media/lainey/flash_drive: not found'
[20:22] <ronalds> I'm just arguing about some parts of kde development
[20:22] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, and what about 'ls -l /media'
[20:23] <Snake2k> tgm4883: It worked :D Thank you :)
[20:23] <tgm4883> Snake2k, yw
[20:23] <Lainey41214> sudo umount ls -l/media/lainey/flash_drive
[20:24] <Lainey41214> umount: invalid option -- '/'
[20:24] <Lainey41214> Usage: umount -h | -V
[20:24] <Lainey41214>        umount -a [-d] [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] [-t vfstypes] [-O opts]
[20:24] <Lainey41214>        umount [-d] [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] special | node...
[20:24] <FloodBot1> Lainey41214: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <Lainey41214> sorry
[20:24] <DylanCl> Hello, recently I got a blue screen of death on windows, that's why I switched to ubuntu. Now, is there a way to completely remove windows 7 inside ubuntu?
[20:24] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, first, there is a space between -l and the path. Second, I didn't want that full path, just /media
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lainey41214: you should have a space between the two
[20:24] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, 'ls -l /'
[20:24] <tgm4883> err
[20:24] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, 'ls -l /media'
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> DylanCl: yes, easily.
[20:24] <DylanCl> How do I do that
[20:25] <bazhang> DylanCl, wubi install?
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> DylanCl: just delete the partition with windows, and then grow ubuntu into it.
[20:25] <havok__> Oh, I wasn't trying to poll. I am honestly confused.-- I'm brand new to linux, and Mint seems to have a different set of apps- I keep confusing myself
[20:25] <DylanCl> I used the windows installer.
[20:25] <DylanCl> Installed it when I had windows
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> DylanCl: then no, you will have to re-install. during that you can eraise windows completely
[20:25] <bazhang> havok__, xchat-gnome is supposed to follow gnome more closely, many would opt for the regular xchat
[20:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> havok__: different distros use different programs, its the name of the game
[20:26] <Lainey41214> Like this? 'sudo umount ls -l /media'?
[20:26] <Lainey41214> It says 'total 4
[20:26] <Lainey41214> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root 4096 Mar  8 15:26 lainey'
[20:27] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, exactly. So now how about 'ls -l /media/lainey'
[20:28] <Lainey41214> It says it's not found.
[20:28] <Lainey41214> 'umount: ls: not found
[20:28] <Lainey41214> umount: /media/lainey: not mounted'
[20:29] <Lainey41214> I put 'sudo umount ls -l /media/lainey'
[20:29] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, oh sorry, that is my fault. I should stop trying to do two things at once
[20:29] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, take the umount out of that command
[20:29] <Lainey41214> It's okay.
[20:29] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, I'm just trying to get a listing of that dir
[20:30] <Lainey41214> 'sudo ls -l /media/lainey'
[20:30] <Lainey41214> 'total 0'
[20:30] <qwertyomen> zorky: sorry had to go  on break... did you get anything working?
[20:30] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, ok, so that is the problem. Your flash drive isn't mounted
[20:30] <zorky> qwertyomen, yeah, i got it booted up. it works :D
[20:31] <qwertyomen> sweet!
[20:31] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, so either a previous command already unmounted it, or it's  mounted elsewhere
[20:31] <Lainey41214> It keeps ejecting periodically.
[20:31] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, on it's own?
[20:32] <qwertyomen> zorky: what all got it working?
[20:32] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, I'm sorry, I wasn't here from the start. Is that the original issue? If so, why are you trying to umount it?
[20:33] <anew> fatal: open database /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.db: Invalid argument
[20:33] <anew> can anyone help with this error i've been on it for over an hour and ahalf
[20:34] <Lainey41214> The original issue is that I cannot format the usb stick.  It says that it's full, but there's nothing in the file.
[20:34] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, odd. That is in disk manager?
[20:34] <tgm4883> sorry, disk utility
[20:34] <jhutchins_wk> anew: 1) What was the last thing you did before it broke?  2) Does that file exist and is it a postfix db?
[20:34] <anew> jhutchins_wk it never worked since i installed it
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: Try fdisk -l
[20:35] <anew> yes that file exists
[20:35] <Lainey41214> fdisk -l
[20:35] <anew> it looks like a postfix.db also
[20:35] <zorky> qwertyomen, yeah, i got the bootloader fixed. :) thanks for the help
[20:35] <anew> well it's a db, i dont knwo about a postfix.db tho
[20:35] <Lainey41214> oops, sorry.
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> anew: What guide are you following?
[20:36] <Lainey41214> I did it, and it unmounted again.
[20:36] <anew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[20:36] <anew> this one
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: That's ok, you don't want it mounted if you need to format it.
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: You only mount things to deal with what's in them, to deal with disks/partitions you work directly with the un-mounted device.
[20:36] <qwertyomen> zorky: no prob I'm saving those links in my bookmarks now... :D
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> anew: Does it show a partition on the drive, or just the drive?
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> anew: Sorry
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: Does fdisk show a partition or just the drive?
[20:38] <selena2013> got the faenza icons installed !!!!
[20:38] <Lainey41214> tgm4883 I previously used it to install ubuntu. Now, I want to delete everything in there, so I can use it for other stuff, but it won't let me.  One person told me that I have to unmount it so I can recreate a partition table, but so far It keeps ejecting when I unmount.  It also ejects whenever I try to delete the contents of the file manually.
[20:38] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, what version of Ubuntu?
[20:38] <Lainey41214> 12.10
[20:38] <anew> jhutchins_wk cant find anything in google
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> anew: All I can suggest is that you go back through the steps and see if you missed something.
[20:39] <anew> argh ok
[20:39] <anew> thx
[20:39] <tqrst> Why can I only hear sound when I am in the first terminal? X, and any of the other terminals doesn't have any sound. I am using xmonad on ubuntu 12.04, started with startx + xmonad in my .xinitrc. I'm in the audio group already.
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: Eject=unmount.
[20:39] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, have you tried formatting it from "disk utility"
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: You can't partition or format with it mounted.
[20:40] <Lainey41214> jhutchins_wk someone here said that they're different.
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: They were wrong.
[20:40] <Lainey41214> tgm4883 How do I do that?
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: That's only true of a disc.
[20:41] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, once you have disk utility open, you should see the drive in the left pane
[20:41] <tqrst> killing pulseaudio fixed it
[20:41] <tqrst> for dubious values of fix
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> Lainey41214: If you used it as an installer it probably doesn't have a partition, and you'll probably want one, so yes, fdisk or parted to create a partition.
[20:42] <tgm4883> Lainey41214, have you looked at the disk utility section of http://askubuntu.com/questions/185815/how-do-i-clear-everything-data-viruses-from-a-thumbdrive
[20:47] <Lainey41214> from the website that you gave me, I put sudo parted /dev/sdf1 mklabel msdos, and it says 'parted: invalid token: sudo
[20:50] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: labinnsw: "Ejecting" with removable media like USB drives generally means to power off the device entirely, diconnecting it all but physically.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> Lainey41214: ^^
[20:51] <Lainey41214> Alright, I think my usb's broken because it doesn't want to stay connected long enough for me to work on it. It does it on my other computer too, so I'm guessing it's a hardware issue. Thanks a lot for trying to help, though. I really appreciate it.
[20:52] <octocpp> I have a drive that failed out of an array. I have since cleared the superblock, and want to force mdadm to --re-add the drive into slot 1 where is originally was. However, I can not get it to stop going into slot 2?
[20:53] <octocpp> It seems my only option is to --add it and it goes in as a spare, and I cant seem to free up slot 1 ?
[20:53] <octocpp> Do i have to trach the whole array and create a new one to get them to show up as slot 0 and 1 ?
[20:54] <leptone> im about to install ubuntu on a usb stick for storing my bitcoin wallet. any reason i should use 32-bit over 64-bit. my default would be to use 64-bit but idk thoughts?
[20:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: how much ram.
[20:55] <sam113101> what's the best way to launch a software at boot?
[20:55] <sam113101> I can't see anything like that in the settings
[20:56] <holstein> cant imagine anything about a bitcoin wallet taking advantage of 64bit, but theres no reason 64bit should be a bad choic these days leptone
[20:56] <joe60> hello
[20:56] <holstein> sam113101: what operating system? main ubuntu? 12.10?
[20:56] <joe60> I'm seeing the game on my PC where I ubuntu 12.04,: the video is not 100% clear ... does anyone know why?? thanks
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: I think it depends on what's doing the "Eject".
[20:57] <sam113101> holstein: ubuntu desktop 12.10
[20:57] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, 8 GB on this machine. but the idea is that i will be able to use it on any machine.  so i cant say definitively
[20:57] <holstein> sam113101: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/159887/where-did-the-startup-applications-preferences-program-go
[20:57] <leptone> holstein, cool ill probably just stick with 64 bit then
[20:58] <holstein> leptone: you can try it live as well and test hardware support
[20:58] <jhutchins_wk> leptone: Be aware that somet things still need 32b, and that multi-arch only mostly works.
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: 32 bit, for compatabilities sake.
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: besides, this is just a wallet to you, right?
[20:58] <holstein> leptone: you can probably test most applications you need to use from the live CD as well
[20:59] <goddard> how can you get the end of the file using cat ?
[20:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: he's just using one thing.
[20:59] <goddard> i know i can use cat filename | less
[20:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> goddard: what exactly do you mean.
[21:00] <goddard> ntzrmtthihu777: i am trying to look through some log files and i want to see the newest stuff
[21:00] <Arbok> Hey, I'm having a crazy time trying to install WOrld of warcraft- I've tried four different guides, but they all end up not working and spewing errors at me
[21:00] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: then he should be able to test the one thing in the live CD
[21:00] <goddard> ntzrmtthihu777: you know look through the file in reverse order
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arbok: use playonlinux
[21:01] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, bitcoin wallet. as well as TOR browser.
[21:01] <Arbok> I have tried to use playinlinux
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: no need for 64 just for that.
[21:01] <czd> how to import sent emails in evolution?
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arbok: did you use one of their scripts? what arch does your pc have?
[21:01] <Arbok> I don't have the cd's, but i OD have the entire game on my external
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arbok: this is ot, actually, so pm me if you like
[21:02] <sam113101> holstein: thanks
[21:02] <Arbok> I tried their scripts, then I tried one that I downloade out of a guide, Ntz
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arbok: is your pc x86 or x64?
[21:02] <Arbok> Oh, sorry about offtopic :P
[21:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arbok: pm me, I have some knowledge of playonlinux
[21:07] <goddard> does this mean anything to anyone http://pastebin.com/i3ymiGuM
[21:07] <goddard> a user of mine is unable to connect and i dont know why
[21:07] <Peyam> Hi
[21:07] <Peyam> what is the best instant Messagin software for linux?
[21:07] <Peyam> I personaly use pidgin. but it becomes more boring now
[21:07] <Peyam> and it doesnt support skype
[21:08] <sam113101> I've always hated ubuntu, now I just love it
[21:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: yes it does.
[21:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo apt-get install pidgin-skype or skype-pidgin, I forget which.
[21:09] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: No?
[21:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: yes
[21:11] <cheese1756_> Hi. I need to upgrade OpenSSL due to a bug in it that conflicts with Mumble. However, there's no update for 12.10 (the most recent version is included in 13.04). How would I upgrade to the 13.04 version?
[21:11] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: Im testing it now
[21:11] <Peyam> :D
[21:11] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: now the password windows doesnt appear
[21:12] <Peyam> ntzrmtthihu777: still waiting. no password window
[21:13] <leptone> can i burn an iso 12.04 to make a live cd  with disk utility (in 12.04)
[21:13] <Peyam> leptone: use google.
[21:13] <Peyam> and the answer is yes
[21:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> Peyam: no clue about that.
[21:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> leptone: i thought you were gonna use the usb key
[21:15] <holstein> cheese1756_: im using mumble in 12.04.. what is the issue?
[21:15] <cheese1756_> holstein: It hangs at OpenSSL setup
[21:15] <cheese1756_> Let me Pastebin you the console output
[21:15] <Nimble> that's strange, mumble in 12.10 works fine for me
[21:15] <holstein> cheese1756_: the repo version?
[21:15] <cheese1756_> holstein: All stock, as of now
[21:15] <holstein> cheese1756_: sudo apt-get install mumble should "just work"
[21:16] <cheese1756_> I tried reinstalling, no luck
[21:16] <holstein> cheese1756_: run, 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and then 'sudo apt-get install mumble'
[21:17] <cheese1756_> holstein: I'm all up to date, that's the odd part
[21:17] <cheese1756_> http://pastebin.com/ppjks62j
[21:17] <cheese1756_> It hangs at the end
[21:17] <sumesh> My friend tried to install Fedora, and the Windows entry seemed inaccessible in Grub menu. I installed Ubuntu, also tried boot repair from a live USB (am typing this from it)
[21:17] <sumesh> Is there any way to fix it? I know all Windows files are intact, and it is at /dev/sda5
[21:17] <leptone> ntzrmtthihu777, yeah but i want the usb to be persistant. not a live disk. so i need to install from the live cd to the USB as if it were my HD (i think) and i cant find my live disk so im making a new one and ive never done it in ubuntu before.
[21:18] <cheese1756_> sumesh: Check against this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#doc_chap2
[21:18] <cheese1756_> Just make sure all the Windows parts are correct
[21:18] <cheese1756_> Not Ubuntu, but the Gentoo handbook should work for this
[21:18] <holstein> cheese1756_: i would go to synaptic and install an older version til that gets fixed
[21:18] <cheese1756_> sumesh: Does Fedora use Grub or Grub2?
[21:19] <sumesh> Grub 2, and any way I've installed Ubuntu over it and reinstalled Grub 2 with boot-repair from an Ubuntu Live USB
[21:19] <sumesh> I checked the grub config file while in Fedora, and it didn't have the Windows entry.
[21:20] <Foxhoundz> Is there any way to save the backlight brightness settings?
[21:21] <goddard> does this mean anything to anyone http://pastebin.com/i3ymiGuM
[21:22] <_cronus_> leptone, i'm not sure if it helps but
[21:22] <_cronus_> leptone, you can make the live cd persistant
[21:23] <_cronus_> leptone, *usb
[21:24] <leptone> _cronus_, that is what i am trying to do... by installing from a live cd
[21:25] <subcool> histo, 12.1 got it working - thanks for all your help
[21:25] <joe60> I'm seeing the game on my PC where I ubuntu 12.04,: the video is not 100% clear ... does anyone know why?? thanks
[21:27] <jhutchins_wk> joe60: What game? What video hardware?
[21:31] <hacker> speak italian language
[21:31] <hacker> ????
[21:31] <hacker> i am italian boy
[21:32] <tgm4883> !it
[21:32] <kondor> tgm4883: Error: "it" is not a valid command.
[21:32] <holstein> !it | hacker
[21:32] <kondor> holstein: Error: "it" is not a valid command.
[21:32] <bazhang> kondor, hi
[21:32] <kondor> bazhang: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
[21:32] <hacker> hi
[21:32] <joe60> jhutchins_wk,    lspci | grep VGA
[21:32] <joe60> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[21:32] <hacker> boy and girl
[21:32] <bazhang> kondor, are you a bot
[21:32] <holstein> !ot | hacker
[21:32] <kondor> holstein: Error: "ot" is not a valid command.
[21:32] <kondor> bazhang: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[21:33] <tgm4883> !mods
[21:33] <kondor> tgm4883: Error: "mods" is not a valid command.
[21:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> lept one, did you listen to me?
[21:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> if you install from cd to usb it is completely persistent
[21:37] <yop> bonsoir
[21:38] <yop> des personnes parlent elles Francais
[21:38] <holstein> !fr | yop
[21:38] <yop> thanks
[21:40] <esing> Are usb dac's supported with ubuntu's current 3.5xxx kernel?
[21:41] <raj> how can I figure out why http://i.imgur.com/j3WnFrS.png happens?
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> eshlox: dac's?
[21:44] <sumesh> I want to add an entry to grub config file. Windows is on /dev/sda5, so what should I use for rootnoverify(hdx,x) ?
[21:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> 0,5
[21:54] <Stdedos> What modules does kernel need to boot from and IDE ext4 drive (VM) ?
[21:55] <MysticalBurrito[> I will probably fail 7th grade like I failed 6th, my social studies grade won't go up. >_>
[21:55] <bazhang> MysticalBurrito[, thats offtopic here
[21:56] <MysticalBurrito[> Oh sorry wrogn chat
[21:56] <MysticalBurrito[> wrong*
[21:56] <bazhang> Stdedos, the vm like vbox has guest additions that should handle that
[21:56] <MysticalBurrito[> for some Reason Xchat has been automatically logging me into this chat, is there a way to stop it from doing  this?
[21:56] <Stdedos> bazhang: I am building a minimized kernel
[21:57] <bazhang> MysticalBurrito[, remove it from the auto join in xchat by editing the server auto join list
[21:59] <al4nc4ds> Dear Members
[22:01] <al4nc4ds> where can I download the beta version of Ubuntu 13.04 on x64 torrent?
[22:01] <Stdedos> bazhang: Any chance someone can help me?
[22:02] <al4nc4ds> torrent.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <al4nc4ds> not list
[22:02] <al4nc4ds> :(
[22:02] <bazhang> Stdedos, why would you need to build a minimal kernel
[22:02] <bazhang> al4nc4ds, check #ubuntu+1
[22:02] <Stdedos> bazhang: because I got a project this semester, which I will build very often, and mess with
[22:04] <al4nc4ds> ?
[22:05] <bazhang> al4nc4ds, support and discussion of 13.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <sammm453921> hello ;)
[22:09] <noor445> hi
[22:15] <_cronus_> Stdedos, maybe lspci -vvxxx on the system will give you a hint
[22:17] <sam113101> what's the default font?
[22:17] <nino> no idea
[22:19] <crypto_> hello there
[22:19] <k1l_> sam113101: default font should be ubuntu
[22:25] <milind> I want to use a command in my bash script, but instead of hardcoding the path, i want it to be determined by $PATH . i thought of doing it by using var=$(which command_name) but is there a better way?
[22:28] <afflicto_> Hello everyone, I just installed apache2. I made a copy of the "default-ssl" site file and named it "halal" then edited the directory directives to "/home/harald/public_html" but I get the default html site when I access localhost. Why?
[22:29] <ikonia> afflicto_: it's using virtual hosts by default that are name based hosts
[22:30] <ikonia> afflicto_: if there is not a valid name based host match, it defaults to the first site
[22:30] <afflicto_> ikonia: you lost me xD
[22:31] <aldariz> hey there, everytime i shutdown/restart my ubuntu 12.10 i get an umount error (device busy) with a [fail] on the right side for a split second. any idea what could be causing this?
[22:31] <ikonia> afflicto_: external or network mounted file systems ?
[22:32] <afflicto_> ikonia: everything is localhost
[22:32] <ikonia> afflicto_: EXACTLY what URL are you putting in your browser
[22:32] <afflicto_> ikonia: "localhost"
[22:32] <ikonia> afflicto_: that is not a url
[22:33] <ikonia> afflicto_: please showme EXACTLY what you are putting into your browser
[22:33] <afflicto_> ikonia: http.//127.0.0.1
[22:33] <ikonia> afflicto_: right, http:// so why are you changing the https ssl site
[22:33] <heyya123432> in my disks utility it says my disk is about to fail how can i fix it?
[22:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: eventually things wear out, its part of life.
[22:33] <ikonia> heyya123432: backup the data and get a new disk, copy the data back on
[22:34] <afflicto_> ikonia: there was no "default" there for some reason. I also disableed SSL on the copy i named "harald".
[22:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: ^+1
[22:34] <heyya123432> ikonia: thats it?
[22:34] <proby> raj:  is that you ?
[22:34] <ikonia> heyya123432: that's it
[22:34] <heyya123432> ikonia: ive had this drive for only like 3 years
[22:34] <ikonia> afflicto_: sorry - you're not making any sense, you've just said you changes the ssl-site.conf and you're surprised why it doesn't do anything when you visit http
[22:34] <ikonia> heyya123432: so ?
[22:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: what kinda drive is it, standar or ssd?
[22:35] <heyya123432> ntzrmtthihu777: it is a hybrid i think
[22:35] <ikonia> it's not
[22:35] <ikonia> as they where not around 3 years ago
[22:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: good deduction.
[22:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: was it brand new when you got it, or did you inherit it?
[22:35] <ikonia> heyya123432: how big is the disk
[22:36] <heyya123432> ntzrmtthihu777: brand new here it is http://www.amazon.com/G73JW-A1-Republic-Gamers-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0041RRS0I
[22:37] <heyya123432> 500gb
[22:37] <ikonia> ok so it's not an SSD
[22:37] <ikonia> heyya123432: backup your data - stop using the disk, buy a new one, restore your data
[22:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: what ikonia said. dd works wonders for that.
[22:37] <maik89> ps3
[22:37] <heyya123432> ikonia: i backed it up already
[22:38] <ikonia> heyya123432: ok, so now yu know what you need to do
[22:38] <heyya123432> i was hoping there was a fix though so i wouldn't have to buy a new drive
[22:38] <heyya123432> kind tight on money right now
[22:38] <ikonia> heyya123432: no
[22:38] <ikonia> heyya123432: it's not a bug - it's hardware failure
[22:38] <heyya123432> is that normal for a drive to fail so quickly
[22:38] <heyya123432> i use my system ALOT
[22:38] <ikonia> possible, yes
[22:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: depends on what you are doing
[22:39] <heyya123432> what kind of SSD should I get?
[22:39] <heyya123432> i can probably spend like 250 or something
[22:39] <ikonia> heyya123432: none
[22:39] <heyya123432> probably cant afford 500gb though
[22:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: ssd can be expensive relative to normal hdd
[22:39] <ikonia> heyya123432: I suggest using the ##hardware channel
[22:39] <heyya123432> i think the major bottle neck on this system is these slow spinning disks
[22:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: possibly, but note that flash memory wears out faster than normal hdd.
[22:41] <heyya123432> ntzrmtthihu777: man this sucks
[22:41] <al_> I have a gtx260 and am having trouble with screen tearing and lag when dragging windows etc. I have tried the prop. driver with no. ANy ideas?
[22:41] <heyya123432> ntzrmtthihu777: ssd is awesome but wears out and normal hard drive wore out on me in like 2 years or something
[22:42] <heyya123432> i guess thats just the name of the game though
[22:42] <heyya123432> i thought these things would last like 20 years or something
[22:42] <DexterityFlux> Hey there people.. if anyone here can help me.. im trying to install ubuntu on my computer with the wubi.exe and I'm having some strange issues here.. if someone could PM and help out that would be awesome!
[22:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyya123432: there is always a trade-off. windows gets you hardware support and games, but virus and malware out the wazu.
[22:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> DexterityFlux: don't use wubi. do a real install.
[22:43] <DexterityFlux> Okay then in that case I also have an installation on a USB and that didn't work either
[22:43] <DexterityFlux> differen't error but didn't work
[22:44] <DexterityFlux> Could someone PM me and walk me through it?
[22:44] <ikonia> DexterityFlux: just chat in the channel
[22:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> DexterityFlux: may as well do full install. wubi is stil gonna take up your disc space, and if you should decide to switch over to ubuntu fully you wont be able to make it into a full install.
[22:45] <DexterityFlux> Okay.. didn't want to interupt anything
[22:45] <y2j> trying to get bluetooth headphone to work anything i need?
[22:45] <y2j> apart from hardware
[22:45] <y2j> using ubutnu 12.10
[22:45] <DexterityFlux> ntzr: Okay so I'm going to install a full installation of ubuntu with a USB on my computer.. I need to make a partition on windows correct?
[22:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> DexterityFlux: the ubuntu installer has a partitioner, you don't have to use windows'
[22:46] <k1l_> DexterityFlux: you should consider a real install instead of wubi
[22:46] <superkuh> Is it possible to use Gnome2 with Nautilus on top of Ubuntu 12? I don't mean Gnome 3 with themes to look like Gnome2.
[22:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: I do the very same.
[22:46] <k1l_> !dualboot | DexterityFlux
[22:46] <ikonia> superkuh: gnome 2 is dead/gone
[22:47] <DexterityFlux> wow! nice bot.. thank you
[22:47] <superkuh> ikonia, I can deal with zombie gnome 2. That is acceptable.
[22:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: gnome3 has a mode that makes it look like gnome2.
[22:47] <ikonia> superkuh: no - it's dead and gone
[22:47] <k1l_> superkuh: no its not. you could use some gnome2 lookalikes
[22:47] <superkuh> I have written a large number of perl and Tk scripts that depend on the Nautilus interface.
[22:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: I use the fallback andits just as good.
[22:47] <superkuh> It is not as good.
[22:47] <superkuh> I need the nautilus API.
[22:47] <k1l_> superkuh: nautilus is still there
[22:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: trust me, you can get it just like lucid's gnome2
[22:48] <superkuh> Hm. Okay. I am backing up everything now. I have been putting off the "upgrade" from 10.04 for too long. I can no longer install the most basic of programs because of their glib requirements.
[22:48] <superkuh> Or because my gcc is so old.
[22:48] <ikonia> gcc is nothing to do with installing thigs
[22:49] <superkuh> ...
[22:49] <superkuh> ikonia, it has a lot to do with compiling things to install them.
[22:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: you will be fine. hell, want me to test your scripts under gnome-panel?
[22:49] <ikonia> yes and the gcc version should not cause a problem
[22:49] <k1l_> superkuh: again: nautilus didnt get dropped
[22:49] <superkuh> ntzrmtthihu777, that would be awesome. http://www.superkuh.com/tktts.html is one.
[22:50] <MoPac> Hi all -- I'm having vexing problems with getting settings to persist related to workspace switching.  Regardless of whether I enter key bindings in Compiz or in the Ubuntu settings keyboard shortcuts (or both), after a few restarts, I find the settings reverted to defaults or otherwise not functioning.
[22:50] <superkuh> I am glad I was confused. If nautilus is still there I should be okay.
[22:50] <MoPac> Further, I have edge flipping enabled, and often (like right now), the edge will flip once, then it will not work anymore until I have manually switched workspaces and selected/unselected some windows
[22:50] <DexterityFlux> So do you guys recommend that I partition my drive with windows first or with the ubuntu installer?
[22:51] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: I would use the ubuntu installer
[22:51] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: Are you making a dual-boot installation?
[22:51] <y2j> anyway of getting my bluetooth headphones to work with pc
[22:51] <DexterityFlux> yes
[22:51] <DexterityFlux> i have win 7 preinstalled
[22:51] <y2j> it has built in bluetooth adapter
[22:51] <DexterityFlux> and going to install ubuntu using usb drive
[22:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: wazzit do and how do you use it.
[22:51] <DexterityFlux> afraid i'll get no boot menu like last time though
[22:52] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: Well, you might need to resize your current Windows partition within Windows to get the space freed up first?
[22:52] <teear> wazaa nigga huu use eer de
[22:52] <DexterityFlux> so I should go from windows first?
[22:52] <ihre> After I reboot my 12.10 server, I recieve the error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host reboot" when I try to connect with SSH. If I restart the service on the server itself (its in the same room as my PC, easily accessible), SSH will work again. How can I fix this ?
[22:52] <superkuh> ntzrmtthihu777, it's a Nautilus-Script. It goes in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts .
[22:52] <teear> Wazaa
[22:52] <ikonia> teear: stop
[22:52] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: I don't think it makes a super huge difference, but I felt more comforable letting Windows protect itself as it freed up the other space
[22:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: gotcha. whats it for
[22:52] <teear> Stopped no loop here
[22:53] <superkuh> You then call it from the right click nautilus script menu to open up pdf or other documents.
[22:53] <superkuh> It acts as a filter for text to speech stuff and handles calling TTS binaries.
[22:53] <teear> Fucking reggae nigga
[22:53] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: My advice would be to use Windows to shrink the Windows partition and leave the rest of the drive as empty space. THEN use the Ubuntu installer to actually set up all the Linux-related partitions
[22:53] <superkuh> REally I don't care if that part of it works. Just that it can get the names of files from nautilus.
[22:53] <DexterityFlux> okay i'll do it from windows.. now i go shrink volume and then choose the space I want (30 gbs) and then thats unallocated space and then create a simple volume?
[22:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: I get how to use nautilus works, but what should I expect as output
[22:53] <DexterityFlux> or just leave it as unallocated?
[22:53] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: One more thing: are you planning on using full-disk encryption for the Ubuntu stuff?
[22:53] <DexterityFlux> Mopac: ^
[22:54] <DexterityFlux> probably not because i don't even know what that means hahaha
[22:54] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: I would say leave it unallocated and let the Ubuntu installer take care of everything
[22:54] <superkuh> ntzrmtthihu777, do you see the screen shot on that page? The little GUI that says, TkTTS?
[22:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> kk
[22:54] <DexterityFlux> okay
[22:55] <MoPac> DexterityFlux: anyway, if you do decide that you want to use the encryption feature, I found it more or less impossible to do with the Ubuntu 12.10 installer and dual boot, at least in a way that made sense.  But it was pretty easy to do it with the 12.04 alternate installer and then upgrade in place to 12.10
[22:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: and will this actuall modify my file or create a new one with changes.
[22:55] <superkuh> It won't create or modify any files.
[22:56] <DexterityFlux> MoPac: okay! thank you..
[22:56] <k1l_> superkuh: nautilus is the file explorer of gnome. no matter if gnome2 or gnome3. i dont see your point
[22:56] <superkuh> Well, it will make /tmp/tts_temp.txt if you actually run it and you have all the system binaries.
[22:56] <superkuh> k1l_, right. I was very confused and wrong before about nautilus.
[22:56] <MoPac> Is there any experience in the room with Compiz settings for workspace/viewport switching?
[22:57] <achandra> MartinS, yep it needs some scrubbing...how much did you want me to fix or for DE do you want to sort it
[22:57] <superkuh> ikonia, gcc 4.4.3 doesn't have the C++11 loops of later gcc. So it does matter in quite a lot of things I try to compile. But that's just an aside.
[22:58] <achandra> MartinS, im not opposed to cleaning it up and retaining the resource is well protected by the language thats been presented
[22:58] <achandra> MartinS, ideally we'd like to get the damn doc in Claude's hands by EOW or Monday
[22:59] <achandra> MartinS, i expect that it will go through some rounds at AT&T before final paper is signed....
[22:59] <achandra> MartinS, ACCENTURE is beating down the doors as well...fyi
[22:59] <_cronus_> y2j, i haven't tried it with 12.10 but with 12.04 it's just a matter of putting your headset in pairing mode and connect to it using bluetooth menu
[22:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: does perl come default on ubuntu?
[22:59] <superkuh> Yes.
[22:59] <heyyaanther1234> hey does it matter what SSD i get?
[22:59] <heyyaanther1234> will ubuntu work with ti
[22:59] <superkuh> Oh, perl requires...
[22:59] <superkuh> Yeah, I used some non-standard modules. Nevermind, ntzrmtthihu777.
[22:59] <superkuh> I do appreciate the help regardless.
[23:00] <superkuh> I was just confused about nautilus though.
[23:00] <superkuh> I'll try it myself when I'm upgraded.
[23:00] <ntzrmtthihu777>  superkuh what you want still exists.
[23:00] <y2j> _cronus_: how come 12.10 has problems that 12.04 didnt
[23:00] <y2j> confusing
[23:00] <y2j> its not a beta
[23:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> if you want it to be like lucid was install gnome-panel
[23:01] <k1l_> y2j: it uses another kernel and other driver and program versions. so there might be some problems that wasnt there on 12.04. but that is not a genereal issue
[23:01] <MoPac> GOAL: I want to mount some encfs volumes at startup and then be able to manage them with Cryptkeeper. PROBLEM: (a) if I mount using encfs command, Cryptkeeper doesn't recognize them, even if the volume info is identical to info in the GUI's favories.  (b) I don't know if/how I can write a script to tell Cryptkeeper to do something rather than "encfs".
[23:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> superkuh: brb, gotta eat
[23:01] <y2j> kll_: cheers for the clear up
[23:04] <_cronus_> y2j, doesnt the procedure i described work on 12.10?
[23:05] <_cronus_> y2j, (just curious - i haven't used it)
[23:12] <DexterityFlux> hey guys when i'm installing should I check the download updates while installing? and third party software?
[23:13] <k1l_> DexterityFlux: yep
[23:13] <sam113101> DexterityFlux: it's your choice man… that's why you can check/uncheck them
[23:14] <DexterityFlux> okay.. just wanted to see if maybe you guys thought i should do different
[23:14] <samurai> hello . today i install something that i dont know . after that my unity-panel-service seems have huge memory leak , its start from 8mb and grow up to 500mb , i debug that and get this message every time memory grow up : unity <unknown>:0 Unable to fetch children: No such interface `org.ayatana.bamf.view' on object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application1535414570 , what is that mean ?
[23:14] <DexterityFlux> thanks :)
[23:14] <sam113101> I didn't because I wanted to do it after the installation was over
[23:15] <DexterityFlux> so now I click Install Ubuntu alongside them?
[23:15] <DexterityFlux> if i want it to install with windows?
[23:15] <DexterityFlux> didn't that option before.. weird
[23:15] <DexterityFlux> but i assume yes?
[23:16] <sam113101> I do it manually, personaly
[23:16] <DexterityFlux> so I should click something else?
[23:16] <DexterityFlux> last time I did that I didn't get a boot menu and the boot-repair software wasn't working
[23:17] <DexterityFlux> i guess its just based on my personal opinion.. im an epic linux noob that's why im asking so many questions
[23:17] <sam113101> I'd be afraid that it would do some partitioning that I didn't like, that's why I always do it manually
[23:17] <sam113101> I suggest you do it manually too, it's not that hard
[23:18] <DexterityFlux> is it easy to change it?
[23:18] <sam113101> what do you mean?
[23:19] <DexterityFlux> if it partitions something i don't like.. i click install along side.. i can't go back now so i was wondering if I could change it if i didn't like it..
[23:19] <DexterityFlux> don't understand this stuff like dev and mapper and stuff
[23:19] <DexterityFlux> thats why i did it the automatic way
[23:20] <sam113101> oh it would probably show you what it would look like before applying the changes
[23:20] <sam113101> but as I said, never done it this way
[23:20] <abracadabra> how can i change the location of the .Xauthority file?
[23:20] <DexterityFlux> thanks for the help people
[23:21] <abracadabra> maybe i should rephrase
[23:21] <vite-away> How do I know what ftp server I have installed on my server hehe
[23:21] <abracadabra> how do i modify the XAUTHORITY variable to point to a different file so that X uses that instead of $(HOME)/.Xauthority
[23:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> abracadabra: to what purpose
[23:24] <curtism> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop. I have already created the partitions I want to use, but the installer does not see them in its partition setup thing. Help?
[23:24] <abracadabra> ntzrmtthihu777 the filesystem is corrupt
[23:24] <abracadabra> the .Xauthority file is corrupt and i cannot delete it
[23:24] <abracadabra> fsck is not helping
[23:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> abracadabra: sounds like you have a bigger problem on your hands. why don't you work at fixing the fs first, treat the disease rather than the system.
[23:25] <abracadabra> just want it up and running tonight until i can get over there tomorrow and replace the drive
[23:25] <abracadabra> yes.. the drive will be replaced tomorrow.. not local to the machine right now.. only have ssh access
[23:26] <joshua1983> hi, some person can talk spanish?
[23:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> !es | joshua1983
[23:26] <ev0lve> abracadabra: SATA drive?
[23:27] <delkin> Hi everyone! Is there any way to avoid grub from blocking during boot? I put the timeout to 0, and I can see that there is no countdown, but still it gets stuck. I still have to press ENTER to choose the default kernel. How can I make sure that this wont happen again? Any idea?
[23:27] <abracadabra> ev0lve it's a usb thumb drive
[23:27] <ev0lve> abracadabra: does it work on any other system?
[23:28] <abracadabra> what?
[23:28] <abracadabra> the thumb drive?
[23:28] <ev0lve> abracadabra: yes
[23:28] <abracadabra> it's corrupt
[23:28] <ev0lve> abracadabra: obviously :)
[23:28] <abracadabra> the .Xauthority file is corrupt
[23:28] <abracadabra> x won't start
[23:28] <curtism> The Ubuntu Installer isn't seeing the partitions I want to use when I select "something else" for where to install
[23:28] <abracadabra> i just want to change XUATHORITY environment variable before x starts
[23:30] <ev0lve> abracadabra: have you tried dosfsck -av on the flash?
[23:31] <abracadabra> can i fsck a partition that's currently mounted and being used?
[23:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> abracadabra: no
[23:31] <ev0lve> abracadabra: nope :/
[23:31] <abracadabra> k.. so back to trying to set that XAUTHORITY variable so that on startup X looks elsewhere
[23:32] <ev0lve> abracadabra: if you cannot mount the device and fsck or dosfsck you may need to seek a new USB device.
[23:32] <abracadabra> not really worried about fixing the filesystem at this point
[23:32] <ev0lve> abracadabra: you might not be able to set this on a corrupted drive, usually will mount as a ro filesystem.
[23:32] <MoPac> GOAL: I want to mount some encfs volumes at startup and then be able to manage them with Cryptkeeper. PROBLEM: (a) if I mount using encfs command, Cryptkeeper doesn't recognize them, even if the volume info is identical to info in the GUI's favories.  (b) I don't know if/how I can write a script to tell Cryptkeeper to do something rather than "encfs".
[23:32] <abracadabra> i'm going to eventually trash the usb and replace with a new one..
[23:33] <curtism> The Ubuntu Installer isn't seeing the partitions I want to use when I select "something else" for where to install...
[23:33] <sam113101> are you putting /home on a usb thumb drive?
[23:33] <sam113101> curtism: what do you mean?
[23:33] <curtism> sam113101: I have created a partition on sda and one on sdb that I want to use as / and /home, but neither of these show up in the installer
[23:33] <abracadabra> me sam113101?
[23:34] <sam113101> abracadabra: yes
[23:34] <abracadabra> yes.. home is on usb
[23:34] <abracadabra> machine runs off a usb stick
[23:34] <mr_sausage_fngrs> Hello all. Does enyone know why the disk geometry reported by the kernel would be different to that reported by windows for on the same machine?
[23:34] <sam113101> curtism: I suggest you use the manual partition if you aren't already
[23:35] <curtism> sam113101: I'm selecting "Something else" when it asks me where I want to install Ubuntu, but the only thing that it lists after that is the Live USB I'm running it off of
[23:35] <mr_sausage_fngrs> the key is that ubuntu reports 512 byte logical sectors but windows reports 1024
[23:38] <sam113101> curtism: can you take a screenshot?
[23:38] <sam113101> does fdisk -l list it?
[23:41] <xico> can anyone help me running blurays BD+protected in ubuntu?
[23:42] <Guest28278> Ку ку
[23:42] <curtism> sam113101: Sorry, how does fdisk -l work?
[23:42] <Guest28278> Тут есть кто из россии?
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ru | Guest28278
[23:43] <curtism> sam113101: http://i.imgur.com/HH13YpP.png
[23:45] <spacebarbarian> when does netwokring service update resolv conf ?
[23:45] <sam113101> weird, what happens if you go back and select that option again?
[23:45] <bekks> spacebarbarian: When the connection is established.
[23:45] <curtism> sam113101: I've tried a number of times, and I've also quit the installer completely and tried again
[23:46] <curtism> sam113101: I'm going to reboot the live usb and see if that help
[23:46] <spacebarbarian> bekks, for some reason the DNS servers entered in my resolv.conf by openvpn are sticking around causing my DNS requests to fail after the vpn disconnects
[23:46] <sam113101> yeah, also it weirds that it lets you select sda for the boot loader but doesn't list it above
[23:46] <sam113101> it's*
[23:47] <curtism> sam113101: Yeah, it also doesn't list sdb for the bootloader
[23:47] <sam113101> curtism: what are they? sda, sdb and sdc?
[23:48] <curtism> sam113101: sda is a 32GB SSD, sdb is a 500GB HDD, sdc is the live usb
[23:48] <LOLOLOLOL> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[23:48] <sam113101> curtism: ok
[23:49] <curtism> sam113101: Rebooted the live USB, still the same thing
[23:50] <jirido> Hi. i'v screwed up my font settings fiddling with dual view's and so on and now to get things right i wonder what the right dpi settings are..? both the ones in xorg.conf and the ones set with xrandr.. Thanks
[23:51] <curtism> sam113101: What fdisk command did you want me to run?
[23:51] <sam113101> fdisk -l
[23:51] <sam113101> run it as root
[23:52] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[23:52] <OPnhf5> sorry i accidently clicked out
[23:53] <OPnhf5> Hello
[23:53] <OPnhf5> ?
[23:54] <Aikar> anyone know of a ppa for maven that has 3.0.5? or why hasnt the 12.04 repo got 3.0.5 since its a security update yet?
[23:54] <Aikar> 12.10*
[23:55] <sam113101> OPnhf5: have you tried it again? are you sure sda was your main drive?
[23:55] <OPnhf5> I honestly do noy know what you mean, i did install alongside Windows 7
[23:56] <curtism> sam113101: https://www.refheap.com/paste/12308
[23:56] <curtism> sam113101: sda2 is what I want to use for / and sdb5 for /home
[23:56] <OPnhf5> This is the second time its happened
[23:57] <OPnhf5> I have options to choose a different device to install boot loader on.
[23:59] <OPnhf5> ...
[23:59] <selena2013> hi