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PHYLLSMOYOhello00:16
PHYLLSMOYOplease help me with installing ubuntu to the galaxy tab 10.100:16
Kris_awayI currently have a game client written in OpenGL 2.1+, is there an easy way to develop for ES 2.0 on desktop and simulate the mobile environment like android and ios can?00:45
kostkonKris_away, try asking also in #ubuntu-app-devel00:49
Kris_awayI guess my second question may be more suitable here... what's the cheapest thing that can run ubuntu touch that has half decent es2 performance? I'm not sure what to get.00:52
ali1234a nexus 400:53
ali1234or 7, i think they are same price00:53
ali1234also http://stackoverflow.com/q/1179249/100151300:54
BorborygmiI dislike how Google Play store won't work in the Netherlands, but will work in Germany. ¬_¬ I live 5 minutes away from Germany... XD00:57
Borborygmi(For devices, that is. :p)00:57
Bobby_hey guys any dev happening for htc one x. XDA said discontinued on the porting process so was just curious01:17
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* krabador are waiting UbuntuTouch for daily use.02:59
KevHi all.03:01
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krabadorhi03:02
Guest96933is flashing Ubuntu to a mobile device limited only to nexus right now?03:02
krabadorGuest96933, officially yes, but Canonical have done a porting guide, that let users and community port ubuntu on other devices03:03
krabadornow, the developer preview are working in many devices03:04
krabadorand for many are coming03:04
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krabadorGuest96933, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices you can look at here03:04
Guest96933Cool. I have an android phone I wont be using, so I want to try flashing Ubuntu onto it for testing reasons. It's an Xperia Ion.03:05
Guest96933thanks for the link03:06
krabador:)03:06
krabadorfor now on xperia s, and xperia t works right03:06
krabadorbut if you've some time hd space and a not too much old pc, you can try to build your own, following the porting guide03:07
krabadorthe only condition, is if xperia ion is cm10.1 supported03:08
Guest96933i'm not so sure if I'm technically inclined, haha. Unless the guide is of fairly moderate difficulty. I'm no expert.03:08
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krabadorGuest96933, eh :), Don't fear the guide :)03:09
Guest96933where can I find it?03:10
krabadorhere https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting03:10
Guest96933thanks krabador03:11
krabadorGuest96933, no problem :)03:12
krabadorGuest96933, how much memory ion have inside'03:17
krabador?03:17
Guest96933internal memory?03:17
Guest96933the internal is 12 gigs.03:18
krabadorGuest96933, ram?03:21
Guest969331 gig03:21
krabadorGuest96933, ok, ubuntu touch, when ready , will require 1 gb min.03:22
Guest96933I'll just put my phone in the microwave for 30 seconds. that will give it more ram, right?03:23
hipboi:O03:24
krabadorGuest96933, if you leave it 30 min, it will have tegra403:24
Guest96933yeah, unfortunately this guide if def. above my threshold of difficulty.03:24
Guest96933is*03:24
Kris_awayNEVER put old Nokias in microwave, you'll unleash the demonic power that gives them their strength03:25
Guest96933lol03:25
krabadorKris_away, this would help nokia to rise again...03:25
krabadorand leave microsoft .03:26
* krabador are put Nokia N70 on microwave03:26
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Kris_awayNokia's CEO is retarded, Nokia can make nice hardware, all it needs is Android.03:27
krabadorKris_away, yes, developers are gone away from nokia03:29
krabadorsome of them are in develop of sailfish os03:29
Kris_awayI was given a demo N9 long time ago, loved the hardware A LOT, oh god symbian was bad.03:29
Kris_awayWait, N9 was meego... it was the previous one03:30
Kris_awayN803:30
krabadoryes N9 was meego03:30
krabadorsome of meego will be tizen, some will be sailfishos03:31
Kris_awayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N8 I got one of those a while before it came out, liked the hardware, nothing amazing but really nice, decent camera too... Y U NO ANDRIOD OR OPEN OS03:31
krabadorthis year will be really electric03:31
krabadorKris_away, yes, wasted hardware03:31
krabadorGuest96933, why you don't use the xperia ion?03:32
Guest96933it's a phone that was built to die.03:33
Guest96933I've gone through 3 already03:34
krabadorGuest96933, have you tried cm10.1 ?03:34
krabadorGuest96933, http://freexperiaproject.com/03:35
Guest96933ive never head of this. checking it out now. although the main issue i've always had is hardware.03:36
Guest96933audio outputs dying, screen dying, speaker dying. no physical damage/ water damage.03:37
Guest96933all under warranty03:37
krabadorGuest96933, great...really bad03:37
krabadorKris_away, have you tried to hack N8 someway?03:39
Kris_awaykrabador: Naa, it was a loaner from Nokia, never kept it for myself03:40
krabadorKris_away, oh, ok03:41
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Jacksonhey05:24
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Jackson99hey05:25
Jackson99anyone know how to get rid of the onbard contacts and messages05:26
Jackson99also how do you close open apps05:27
Jackson99hello anyone?05:27
malac0daso I finally got it kind of booted I guess on a transformer prime06:02
malac0daI got a black screen06:04
malac0dastill no adb thoguh06:04
Mirvptl: sounds like qt creator misconfiguration, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/113533606:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1135336 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "Qt Creator misconfigures itself if qt4-qmake is installed or if the whole ubuntu-sdk isn't installed before the first run" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:28
Mirvali1234: thanks a lot! I've seen the .config/Nokia sometimes, but not with the newest versions. I upgraded at least the bug description now to mention that config/Nokia as well (it already had .config/Qt*06:30
Namidairomalac0da: lol08:12
agwblackHi all, Is there a way to programatically select a tab, e.g. if you press a button in one tab then another tab will be selected?08:35
lilstevieNamidairo, are you lol'ing at the fact that he is calling that booted?08:35
lilstevie:p08:35
agwblackThe api documentation is somewhat...sparse08:36
Namidairono, I'm laughing at the fact he even got that far08:36
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lilstevieNamidairo, is there any reason for that08:48
Namidairoprobably my fault08:49
lilstevielol08:49
lilsteviewouldn't surprise me08:49
lilstevie;)08:49
Namidairothe tf300t and tf700t work, so it probably is my fault.08:49
lilstevieno doubt08:50
lilsteviecm10.1 also works just fine so...08:50
Namidairosurfaceflinger magically breaks08:51
lilstevieherh08:56
lilstevieheh08:56
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oh7fdnlove those afk-messages, could there be anything more spam10:34
smartboyhwlol10:34
Namidairoyes actually10:36
Namidairo!list10:36
ubot5Namidairo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubot5 !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubot5 !alis ».10:36
Namidairolike so10:36
ogra_darkdragon-001[A, can you please switch off public away messages ? thanks10:39
ogra_(there are 230 ppl in thei channel, if everyone enables them we wont be able to read conversations anymore)10:40
k1l!away > darkdragon-001[A10:43
ubot5darkdragon-001[A, please see my private message10:43
ogra_ah, i knew there was a bot command for this ... i always forget :)10:44
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ogra_darkdragon-001... please ....11:25
ogra_just turn them off completely11:26
darkdragon-001ogra_: I was testing how I can turn it off, but it seems that these messages are also displayed to everyone...11:26
ogra_yeah11:26
darkdragon-001sorry for that11:26
ogra_np :)11:26
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smartboyhw!away | darkdragon-00111:44
ubot5darkdragon-001: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubot5 Guidelines»11:44
darkdragon-001I am figuring out how I can do it. When I type in "/away" then id displays the command. when I disable commands (and rename) it does nothing when I type in away...11:45
darkdragon-001with commands I mean the messages you see...11:45
k1ldarkdragon-001: no nickchange and no away /ame message would be appreciated11:46
k1lmost clients just display the away users greyed out11:46
darkdragon-001what to use instead of /ame?11:46
k1ldarkdragon-001: nothing11:46
k1lthat is just annoying. good clients show the user who are /away greyed out11:47
k1llike i am /away.11:48
darkdragon-001my client has a property for user information if they are away. but I cant figure out how to set that... I will disable away messages until I figured out how to set it...11:48
darkdragon-001k1| I am trying to figure out how to set it... Perhaps I have to look for another client...11:48
BorborygmiYou can set away with /away <reason why you're away>12:01
BorborygmiAnd you return by entering /away without a reason. (This is the case for mIRC, but I assume it can be used for the most, if not any, clients)12:02
darkdragon-001This is what I did. And then it displayed the messages and changed my nick. I found an option to disable nick change and removed the /ame command in settings. But then it did nothing... Is the free version on mIRC usable (after trial)?12:03
BorborygmimIRC can be used forever, it just gives you a nag window if you don't register. =p12:03
Borborygmiregister = buy*12:04
BorborygmiIt's a bit like winrar. XD12:06
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darkdragon-001okay, I'll try it. thanks :)12:07
Borborygmi:) np.12:08
k1li would recommend hexchat for windows12:09
BorborygmiI run way too many scripts to switch clients... =p12:09
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malac0daFinally got it working on my tf20113:32
* ogra_ applauds 13:33
malac0daHad to be on ICS bootloader and not jelly bean...which doesnt make sense to me13:34
gianguidohai chan13:43
malac0dahello13:45
dell_123Hello14:19
dell_123I had some questions about qml. Is it the right place to ask?14:21
gianguidoyeah, but there are few qml developers14:22
dell_123Ok. If any one knew about Basic Html Authentication on QML (at least how can it be done for Ubuntu)14:23
BorborygmiThere is a channel on here named #qt-qml maybe you have more luck there? :)14:24
dell_123Thanks14:25
dell_123Bye14:26
BorborygmiCya.14:26
gianguidoUbuntu Daily downloader :) had nothing to do yesterday, so here's what I've done! I must add error handling for things like bad downloads and so on, maybe in a near future... if anyone try it, let me know! there shouldn't be any syntax error... if any send a pull request or tell here! https://bitbucket.org/PeppeLaKappa/ubuntu-touch-daily-downloader/overview14:41
BorborygmiI just have firefox open always, with the daily links in a tab. =p14:43
gianguidothis script automates this task, and with less memory occupied ;D14:43
BorborygmiI was thinking of that, so now I'm writing a mIRC script to do it. x'D14:44
gianguidomIRC? wtf o.o14:44
BorborygmiWhat? :p14:45
gianguidowhy write with mIRC? LOL14:45
BorborygmiBecause I have mIRC open 24/7?14:45
BorborygmiSo, why get anything else that uses more memory? :>14:46
gianguidothat's a good point lol14:47
BorborygmiHeh, my bot runs 105 scripts. O_o14:49
gianguidoo_O14:49
gianguidoand you're talking about "use less memory" lo14:50
gianguidolol14:50
BorborygmiThe bot is on another PC :P14:50
gianguidolol14:50
BorborygmiAnd those scripts don't take much memory anyways.14:50
BorborygmiLets see how much memory mIRC consumes on that bot.14:50
Borborygmi24.080K14:51
gianguidouhm14:52
gianguidopython script uses things like ~2-3 mb of ram14:52
gianguidoand adb.. well, <1mb lol14:52
BorborygmiYeah, but whether I run 1 more script or not, it won't spike up 2~3mb :P14:52
gianguidojust installed ubuntu core apps from the launchpad... fantastic!15:11
nik90gianguido, did you install from the ppa?15:12
gianguidoyes15:12
nik90do they app icons and work properly?15:12
gianguidono icon but some of them works15:12
gianguidoif launched from terminal15:12
nik90oh ok..nice15:12
gianguidoyeah, a lot15:12
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lcabrezahi guys, im having a hard time ...deciding what phone to buy ? what's the best phone i can buy today where i can install Ubuntu-phone os ?15:54
BorborygmiA Nexus 4, I assume. :p15:55
smartboyhwBorborygmi, correct15:56
Umeaboylcabreza: What country you're from?15:57
lcabrezaUmeaboy: Asia/Philippines15:59
UmeaboyI'd check http://www.pricespy.co.uk/ if I were to buy a new phone, but Sony Xperia Z has impressed me most. ;)16:09
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Lexmazterhow can i add a device to the wiki?16:38
Lexmazteris anybody here?16:39
ogra_Lexmazter, its a wiki, just edit it16:41
Lexmazter:)) okay16:41
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Lexmazterogra_: okay, added HTX Sensation XL, will try the first image in a few moments :)16:50
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Powerful_Alhello17:28
Powerful_Aldo you know how can I add tabs dynamically17:29
Powerful_Alshould I use tabs.__tabModel17:29
axisyscan I flash a toshiba thrive tablet ?17:31
Lexmazterogra_: how can i debug ubuntu-touch? i'm currently stuck at bootanim and don't know how to check what's worng17:43
nik90Does anybody here know how to rotate a clock hour hand using the mouse in QML and Javascript?17:55
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dank101anyone here with a S318:30
dank101PM me if you do18:30
dank101NOW18:30
dank101anyone?18:30
dank101GIA!18:42
gianguidoDAN18:43
Lexmazterhi thre18:52
Lexmazterso18:52
Lexmazteri have a "partially booting" ubuntu touch18:52
Lexmaztermeaning i have the console18:52
Lexmazterno interface for now18:52
Lexmazterfrom what i've seen in the logs18:52
Lexmazterthis seems to be the problem18:52
LexmazterCould not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole' [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]18:52
Lexmazterwhat should i do next?18:53
Lexmazterramdisk or?18:53
gianguidoLexmazter, are you porting on a new device? :)18:53
Lexmaztergianguido: yep18:53
gianguido:O what device?18:53
Lexmaztergianguido: htc sensation xl (runnymede)18:53
gianguidouhm... try to manually start the session18:54
gianguidoadb root18:54
gianguidothen18:54
gianguidoadb shell18:54
gianguidoubuntu_chroot shell18:54
gianguidoubuntu-session18:54
Lexmaztergianguido: tried that18:54
Lexmazternothing happens18:54
gianguidologcat18:54
gianguido?18:54
gianguidodmesg?18:54
Lexmazterdmesg seems clean18:54
Lexmazterno logcat18:54
gianguidolook at logcat18:54
gianguido;)18:54
Lexmazteri don't have it :))18:54
nik90dank101, I have an S318:55
nik90but there is still no ubuntu touch image for it :(18:55
gianguidoLexmazter, why?18:55
Lexmazterjust a moment18:55
LexmazterUnable to open log device '/dev/alog/main': No such file or directory18:55
gianguidowtf18:56
gianguidotoo strange18:56
Lexmazteri believe i need more permissions to the ramdisk18:56
Lexmazterthan i already have18:56
east_Hey guys, just dropped ubuntu on my nexus 10 and it has some people's user profiles on it...18:57
gianguidoeast_, yeah18:57
gianguidoit's a developer preview18:57
gianguidonothing to use daily, but there's a method to throw away that data on the wiki18:58
east_oooh gotcha.18:58
gianguidoskilled python developers here?18:58
IRebootgianguido: I may be able to help with python what is your question?19:04
gianguidoi've wrote an ubuntu touch daily downloader, i'm "new" to python and it will be great if a more skilled developer see the code and tell me what is ok and what is not :)19:04
IRebootgianguido: Issue the git link again, I recently cleared the channel log.19:06
gianguidosure https://bitbucket.org/PeppeLaKappa/ubuntu-touch-daily-downloader19:06
IRebootgianguido: I got it is there anything specific you are looking to comment on? Also I assume this is all run on a host PC and not the phone/tablet (havn't looked at code yet)?)19:09
gianguidoyeah on the host pc of course19:09
gianguidoabout the if statement, i think that there's a method to short all this part19:09
gianguidobecause too copy-paste isnt a good thing, right'19:09
gianguido?19:10
IRebootgianguido: Need to look before commenting. brb19:10
IRebootgianguido: Even though you left early here are the minor quibbles with your python code. See: http://pastebin.com/xyLFkeGK19:29
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neokoreHi everybody! Anyone knows where we can find graphical resources from Canonical for our apps? Mainly icons for buttons or menus19:40
holsteinneokore: using unity in main ubuntu you mean?19:42
holsteinneokore: *all* the resources are as much from canonical as anything else.. the ubuntu community and official repos supply the "apps".. canonical pays the bills (bascially"19:43
holsteinneokore: i would suggest trying something like kupfer or gnome-do ..you can use xfce if you are looking for more of a traditional gnome2 desktop19:44
neokoreholstein: no, sorry I didn't explain me very well. I need action icons for include it a touch app but I couldn't find anything in Canonical's wiki19:44
holsteinneokore: acutally, i though this was the #ubuntu channel, which was more what my reponse was tailored for. the desktop.. i'll defer to other volunteers for an answer19:45
neokoreholstein: it's OK, thank you :D19:46
ali1234neokore: in the sdk are examples like the notepad app19:53
neokoreali1234: But it doesn't include icon resources for actions19:55
neokoreali1234: what I'm looking for is like http://android-ui-utils.googlecode.com/ but with Ubuntu touch style19:56
dataguttgianguido20:03
dataguttah hes offline20:03
MBaumihello!21:03
MBaumi@mesq are you there?21:04
MBaumieverybody Idlin' ?21:20
dank101YOOOOOO21:32
dank101lol21:32
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darkhamexcuse me people, i installed and run with many pleasure ubuntu touch developer preview on samsung i9100, but i only want to know a thing21:38
darkhamcanonical are working hard to ubuntu touch, and is pleased of the xda community collaboration21:39
darkhamfor now, the porting guide is CyanogenMod 10.1 based, that don't support many medium-high level devices, as all the samsung exynos based21:40
dank101...21:41
darkhamis canonical willing the xda collaboration, only in a "passive" way,trying to support other devices only with xda community work, or is willing to work WITH xda community?21:42
darkhamthat's my question.21:42
darkhamnobody?21:47
srhsrhju6http://twixzo.de/spiel.php?id=2224821:51
shaneo1hi guys any news on where the ubuntu touch daily builds logs are published?21:54
dank101cdimage.ubuntu.com22:00
dank101http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/22:00
shaneo1thats great but is their a change log for the dailies yet?22:01
dank101no22:09
shaneo1thanks dank101.22:09
shaneo1i been looking everyday22:09
fyksenHey! is there a way to install the core apps on nexus 7 running phablet? Here's a guide to install it on ubuntu-12.10. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-play-with-ubuntu-touch-apps-in-ubuntu-12-1022:21
shaneo1i cant believe the devs for sailfish are porting Ubuntu core apps..  I know we are open source and all but this is a bit cheeky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlbyJp9Fxl4, all the hard work you guys are putting in to make Ubuntu great, and along comes a sailfish and steals the code.23:25
dank101ah, let em23:29
dank101until they take all the credit23:29
dank101then we ATTACK23:29
shaneo1thats the thing they can23:29
shaneo1but its no good once the gate has been bolted23:30
shaneo1we are open source, im sure M$ have a thing or two up their sleve from the open communities ideas.23:31
shaneo1least we have video evidence now that a sailfish dev is porting ubuntu core apps lol23:32
crypticmofoim assuming since i don't hve a nexus device there is no point any trying anything or putting this on my device until october correct ?23:32
shaneo1what you have?23:33
crypticmofod2vzw23:33
shaneo1here is all the devices that work and sort of work, but if your not a dev there is really no real point, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices23:34
shaneo1its only half baked at the moment, with limited functionality and most content is just place holders, demoed at the MWC and CES23:35
crypticmofose23:35
crypticmofoaw cool23:35
crypticmofoi love the concept and can't wait23:35
crypticmofoonce ubuntu-touch comes out im ditching all these roms23:35
crypticmofo"D23:35
crypticmofo:P23:35
shaneo1text messaging works ok, telephone calls are a bit shakey, as they are on 2G only and some times I cant hear people on the other end23:36
crypticmofonot for a cdma device though correct23:36
shaneo1concept I am hoping it will be what we see now23:36
dank101also23:37
dank101im back23:37
dank101on the unoffical port party23:37
dank101d2att port - "coming soon to a wiki near you"23:38
shaneo1I have the good old samsung GNex so I am as happy as a pig in the poop23:40
nik90anyone here got ubuntu touch working on s3?23:42
nik90the international version23:43
dank101sorry23:45
dank101none23:45
shaneo1for the d2vzw its not looking so good right now - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39299-romwip-ubuntu-touch-on-d2vzw-dev-previewphantom-022213/23:48
shaneo1but it is being worked on23:48
shaneo1which S3 nik23:49
shaneo1version?23:49

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