[00:00]  * OPnhf5 slaps selena2013 around a bit with a large trout
[00:01] <Sneglen> Hello. I would like to rename my network interface from p3p1 to eth0, but I am unable to find a way to do such.
[00:01] <mr_sausage_fngrs> can anyone help me find out why ubuntu cannot see my windows partition?
[00:01] <maveas> Sneglen: DUDE
[00:01] <Sneglen> the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file only contains the wlan0
[00:01] <maveas> Sneglen: Smut ind i /etc/network/interfaces ;)
[00:01] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[00:01] <Sneglen> Hm
[00:02] <leptone> whats the command for showing your drives and partitions?
[00:02] <GhostLogic> Why do you need to reassign an interface id?
[00:03] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[00:03] <Sneglen> maveas: der er to filer; interfaces og interfaces.bak-0 - kun den sidste har ikke kommenteret navn. ændrer den lige og genstarter.
[00:04]  * OPnhf5 slaps Sneglen around a bit with a large trout
[00:04] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[00:04] <Sneglen> maveas: ingen ændring.
[00:04] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[00:04] <OPnhf5> I was installing Ubuntu (desktop version) and i got this error: "unable to install Grub in /dev/sda" so i clicked okay and now it is saying "boot loader installer failed" Can anyone please help me? Been trying to figure this out for hours. Thanks in advance!
[00:04] <FloodBot1> OPnhf5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <GhostLogic> Your master boot record is hosed, Op. You'll have to reinstall.
[00:05] <GhostLogic> From scratch. :)
[00:05] <selena2013> which image ?
[00:05] <selena2013> make sure you installing right ISO
[00:05] <curtism> sam113101: Any ideas?
[00:05] <OPnhf5> reinstall what ?
[00:05] <maveas> Sneglen: Jeg er lidt rusten. Har du network manager installeret?
[00:05] <OPnhf5> and thank you for answering
[00:05] <GhostLogic> Your operating system.
[00:06] <OPnhf5> I have tried that already Ghost and i got the same error.
[00:06] <OPnhf5> :(
[00:06] <Sneglen> maveas: ja, det har jeg. har brugt sidste MinimalCD af ubuntu og valgt XFCE.
[00:06] <GhostLogic> You went into drive partition and deleted the partition table?
[00:06] <_cronus_> curtism, any chance you have some sort of raid option in your bios?
[00:07] <OPnhf5> No i just did the install along Windows 7.
[00:07] <curtism> _cronus_: Ooooooh yeah this laptop came with W7 with some sort of RAID setup
[00:07] <GhostLogic> Oh. Well get rid of Windows and you'll be fine. Just install linux. :P
[00:08] <mr_sausage_fngrs> can anyone help me find out why ubuntu cannot see my windows partition?
[00:08] <OPnhf5> No i'm trying to dual boot operating sytems because i have many programs on Windows.
[00:08] <OPnhf5> D:
[00:08] <maveas> Sneglen: Der stod ikke p3p1 i interfaces ?
[00:08] <GhostLogic> If the live cd won't install grub, you cannot proceed with dual boot options. Sorry.
[00:09] <maveas> Sneglen: Hvis ikke, så mener jeg den må stå i /etc/NetworkManager/enelleranden.conf
[00:09] <Sneglen> maveas: Jo, men kun i .bak-0 filen.
[00:09] <OPnhf5> Is there a specific reason why i cannot install the live cd though? It seems to work for everyone else...
[00:09] <_cronus_> curtism, there is a command that removes the raid header from the disk, i think it is dmsetup clear /dev/sdx, but i am not sure
[00:09] <GhostLogic> You could search google for a risky solution and hose your machine though.
[00:09] <maveas> Sneglen: Er det kun lo der er tilbage i interfaces?
[00:10] <curtism> _cronus_: Well I'm trying not to mess with that, I'm trying to dual boot
[00:10] <_cronus_> curtism, there should be a boot option as well to disable dmraid
[00:10] <BroBert> hey guys im having some trouble here
[00:10] <OPnhf5> What does hosing a machine do
[00:10] <BroBert> i registered for the ubuntu software center
[00:10] <OPnhf5> ?
[00:10]  * OPnhf5 slaps BroBert around a bit with a large trout
[00:10] <BroBert> and clicked the link to confirm my email
[00:10]  * OPnhf5 slaps BroBert around a bit with a large trout
[00:10] <_cronus_> curtism, nodmraid most likely
[00:10] <BroBert> but i closed the thing where your supposed to put a key around
[00:11] <BroBert> err enter the key
[00:11] <Sneglen> maveas: Ja. Der er loopback interface, og primary network interface. primary network interface er udkommenteret med #NetworkManager#auto p3p1 og en anden linje der ligner.
[00:11] <BroBert> anyway, now i cant log in or confirm my account or anything
[00:11] <BroBert> what do i do?
[00:11] <curtism> _cronus_: I'll try that
[00:11] <maveas> Kan du så ikke bare slette p3p1 fra NetworkManagers conf og opret den i interfaces+ Du kan vel også omdøbe den i NetworkManager
[00:11] <GhostLogic> OPnhf5, it means if you try to force it to install, you'll probably lose access to your windows environment.
[00:11] <GhostLogic> It means stop now before you do something stupid.
[00:12] <OPnhf5> Thank you.
[00:12] <maveas> Sneglen: ^
[00:12]  * OPnhf5 slaps GhostLogic around a bit with a large trout
[00:12] <maveas> Sneglen: Og /etc/networkmanager/system-connections/
[00:12] <OPnhf5> lolz
[00:12]  * OPnhf5 slaps OPnhf5 around a bit with a large trout
[00:12]  * OPnhf5 slaps OPnhf5 around a bit with a large trout
[00:12] <Sneglen> maveas: NetworkManager.conf i /etc/NetworkManager refererer ingen interfaces.. Jeg vil fjerne kommentarer fra interfaces og se hvad der sker.
[00:12] <FloodBot1> OPnhf5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12]  * OPnhf5 slaps OPnhf5 around a bit with a large trout
[00:13] <maveas> Sneglen: Så ligger den muligvis i din hjemmemappe :)
[00:13] <Sneglen> maveas: system-connections indeholder hellere ingen referencer til interfaces.
[00:14] <curtism> _cronus_: That changed nothing :\
[00:14] <sam113101> curtism: I queried you if you haven't seen
[00:14] <maveas> Sneglen: Men det kan godt være du ikke skal ændre det.
[00:15] <curtism> Well that's annoying...
[00:15] <sam113101> wat?
[00:15] <Sneglen> maveas: Nu må vi se hvor galt det kan gå.. :p
[00:15] <Sneglen> maveas: Jeg skal ændre det for at jeg kan aktivere MatLab.
[00:16] <MoPac> Goal: I want to mount some encfs volumes at startup and then be able to manage them with Cryptkeeper. Problem: (a) if I mount using encfs command, Cryptkeeper doesn't recognize them, even if the volume info is identical to info in the GUI's favories.  (b) I don't know if/how I can write a script to tell Cryptkeeper to do something rather than "encfs".
[00:16] <dlentz> i love IRC
[00:17] <BroBert> somebody gone help me?
[00:17] <maveas> Sneglen: Du skal nok kigge på udev i stedet
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> !english
[00:17] <maveas> Sneglen: Tror ikke den vil genkende eth0 alligevel.
[00:17] <maveas> MonkeyDust: Dude.. We are not talking about you anyways
[00:18] <maveas> MonkeyDust: It's danish. Go translate.google.com if you worry.. lol
[00:18] <Sneglen> maveas: Problemet er beskrevet her: http://www.mathworks.se/support/solutions/en/data/1-661QJD/index.html?solution=1-661QJD Men i udev-filen er der ingen p3p1 referencer, kun til wlan0
[00:18] <Aphasia> Sneglen: jeg har p3p1 jeg og
[00:18] <BroBert> wir mussen die juden ausrotten de norde amerika
[00:18] <jose106> this forum is for any language, not just engñish
[00:18] <Aphasia> skjønner ikke hvorfor
[00:19] <curtism> _cronus_: So... I really don't know what the RAID setup is like on this
[00:19] <Aphasia> jose106: engñish?
[00:19] <BroBert> spanglish?
[00:19] <jose106> Aphasia, lol
[00:19] <Aphasia> BroBert: Stay ontopic
[00:19] <jose106> wrong keyboard
[00:19] <BroBert> im trying to get help
[00:19] <mr_sausage_fngrs> does anyone speak kernel dmesg here?
[00:19] <maveas> Sneglen: Weird
[00:20] <Sneglen> maveas: Bestemt!
[00:20] <Sneglen> Aphasia: hvordan ser din /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ud?
[00:21] <_cronus_> curtism, are you currently using raid?
[00:21] <maveas> Sneglen: Kan du ikke bare bruge min og tilpasse den? SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="90:2b:34:52:e9:fe", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
[00:21] <Sneglen> maveas: At fjærne kommentarer i interfaces var en dårlig idé..
[00:21] <_cronus_> curtism, i mean on windows
[00:21] <Sneglen> maveas: Jo, det vil jeg nok forsøge.
[00:21] <maveas> Sneglen: Du skal selvfølgelig lige finde dit device id
[00:21] <MonkeyDust> Sneglen  maveas type /join #ubuntu-dk
[00:21] <Aphasia> Sneglen: # PCI device 0x168c:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0 (ath9k)
[00:21] <Aphasia> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="50:b7:c3:59:1f:80", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[00:21] <curtism> _cronus_: It's the Windows install that came on the laptop... I'm not sure how to check RAID configuration on w7
[00:21] <doomlord> does ubuntu run on chomebook pixel
[00:22] <root^> root# sudo rm -rf somethingimportanthere
[00:22] <maveas> MonkeyDust: I'm there already..
[00:22] <root^> is it root@ or root#
[00:23] <MonkeyDust> maveas  the purpose of the channel is, that everyone can learn from each other
[00:23] <curtism> _cronus_: It came with an 8GB partition on the SSD that seems to be part of a RAID configuration, but I don't know how to check the config in windows
[00:24] <alphabeta8> can anyone explain to me how to revoke my public gpg key? I only get errors
[00:24] <BroBert> someone help me
[00:24] <_cronus_> curtism, i don't know either
[00:24] <dr_willis> !details
[00:25] <maveas> MonkeyDust: Okey.. We are unsure why Sneglen's interface is named p3p1 and not eth0. The interface MUST be named ethX because of MatLab
[00:25] <_cronus_> curtism, maybe someone here could tell
[00:25] <lb27> BroBert: can you try confirming it again?
[00:25] <BroBert> sure
[00:26] <Sneglen> maveas MonkeyDust: I am currently manually adding a line to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules for eth0 as it only has wlan0. http://www.mathworks.se/support/solutions/en/data/1-661QJD/index.html?solution=1-661QJD
[00:26] <BroBert> There's no page with this address in the Ubuntu Single Sign On service. Check that you entered the address correctly and try again.
[00:26] <BroBert> (Error ID: 2625carambolaubuntu1)
[00:26] <BroBert> lb27, ^
[00:28] <BroBert> yall are no help at all
[00:28] <root^> whats better out of mac linux and windows millenium
[00:29] <curtism> root^: ME
[00:29] <maveas> Sneglen: Did it do the trick?
[00:29] <curtism> _cronus_: Can you give me an idea of how the RAID stuff would be affecting the installer?
[00:29] <dr_willis> WindowsME is  basically  dead.. so its sort of a silly question. ;)
[00:30] <dr_willis> Not really a ubuntu support question either.
[00:30] <Korejora> so, the internet is giving me really conflicting answers on how big to make a swap partition, everything from "you don't need one" to "twice your ram". twice my ram seems really excessive though. can someone give me a more definitive answer? :\
[00:30] <bekks> Korejora: Once your RAM plus 100M.
[00:30] <dr_willis> Korejora:  if you are using suspend/hibernate you want it to  be ram + a little more
[00:31] <Sneglen> maveas: Rebooting now to see how it fares. Doubt it though :p
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> Korejora  twice your ram, if you intend to hibernate/suspend a lot
[00:31] <sam113101> use a swap file instead
[00:31] <dr_willis> Korejora:  years ago when 1gb of ram was a lot.. twice ram was common
[00:31] <Korejora> I've never used suspend/hibernate in the history of my computer
[00:31] <dr_willis> Korejora:  then you  dont need that much.
[00:31] <Sneglen> maveas: Hm. ifconfig reports eth0 now
[00:31] <Korejora> I have 16gb ram but my HD is only like 240gb so 16-32gb would be a significant chunk of that :(
[00:31] <Sneglen> maveas: I'll attempt to install MatLab again then :)
[00:32] <dr_willis> it put on a 2gb swap then and leave it at that.
[00:32] <maveas> Sneglen: Wuhuu
[00:32] <Sneglen> maveas: Tak for hjælp :)
[00:32] <kostkon> Korejora, twice the amount of ram for <= 4gb, equal+1 for > 4gb?
[00:32] <Sneglen> maveas: Nu må vi se om det virker.
[00:32] <dr_willis> my swap is on a seperate  normal sata drive. not a sdd one.
[00:33] <Korejora> oh, can you put your swap on a seperate drive?
[00:33] <Korejora> separate*
[00:33] <bekks> Korejora: Sure.
[00:33] <maveas> Sneglen: Hjælp og hjælp. I was randomly guessing :P
[00:33] <BroBert> hey
[00:33] <BroBert> now wtf
[00:33] <BroBert> u guys are sposed to help according to the canonical site
[00:33] <bekks> BroBert: And you are supposed to watch your language please.
[00:33] <BroBert> i registered my sso account
[00:34] <MonkeyDust> BroBert  we do, if we know the answer
[00:34] <BroBert> verified the email
[00:34] <lb27> BroBert: never had to sign up for software before, sounds like that doesn't respect your freedoms
[00:34] <BroBert> but i closed the verify code window in the ubuntu software center b4 i could enter it
[00:34] <BroBert> now i cant log in, verify, or reset my password
[00:34] <BroBert> what do i do?
[00:34] <BroBert> lb27, its the single sign on account, i registered for it to review an app in the software center
[00:34] <CallingPanther> I installed Dancer-IRCD and am having an issue with my self getting OP
[00:34] <maveas> BroBert: Contact Canonical
[00:35] <BroBert> i dnt know how
[00:35] <BroBert> i hit the support thing
[00:35] <BroBert> andit said someone would contact me shortly?
[00:35] <BroBert> how the fuck is that possible?
[00:35] <BroBert> i didnt give an email or anything?
[00:35] <bekks> BroBert: By email.
[00:35] <BroBert> how? i didnt give one?
[00:35] <bekks> BroBert: How did you register then?
[00:35] <BroBert> with my email?
[00:35] <BroBert> but im not logged in?
[00:35] <BroBert> so what are they reading my cookies?
[00:35] <maveas> BroBert: Session ;)
[00:36] <BroBert> im in ubuntu yes
[00:36] <BroBert> so how are they gonna contact me then?
[00:36] <maveas> BroBert: Session ID in cookie send to the server which keps session state (including mail? ;)
[00:36] <BroBert> because i did this yesterday and have no response yet
[00:36] <franl> BroBert, can you re-register?
[00:36] <BroBert> maveas, but i dnt have my email set up on the computer
[00:36] <maveas> BroBert: We do not have anything to do with SSO
[00:36] <BroBert> franl, no it wont let me
[00:36] <BroBert> it says my emails taken
[00:37] <bekks> BroBert: You send your email ... do you really expect they dont know it, after receiving it?
[00:37] <maveas> BroBert: Oh, didn't you fill out form at a website or did I miss something?
[00:37] <dr_willis> on several different drives if you wanted
[00:37] <BroBert> no u dnt understand
[00:37] <BroBert> i filled it out in software cetner
[00:37] <Korejora> so as for the actual ubuntu install, does it need more than ~10gb? mine has never gone over ~7-8, but I don't really want to reallocate the partition after installing, because that's a huge pain
[00:37] <BroBert> then i went to the site where you log in
[00:37] <_cronus_> curtism, basically the problem is that although fdisk and gparted does not understand the presence of softraid, the installer and the disk utility do
[00:37] <BroBert> after clicking the verify link in my email
[00:37] <bekks> BroBert: Then you submitted the form. You email address was submitted.
[00:37] <BroBert> then i tried to log in and it wouldnt let me
[00:38] <BroBert> and low and behold i realizes i closed the verify window
[00:38] <BroBert> bekks, what part of i wasnt logged in when I hit the support button?
[00:38] <kostkon> BroBert, have you tried to login on another ubuntu website with that account, e.g. ubuntu one?
[00:38] <BroBert> is so hard to understand?
[00:38] <BroBert> kostkon, yesit saysi t cannot authenticate
[00:38] <kostkon> BroBert, ok :/
[00:38] <maveas> BroBert: Well.. these channel on IRC are often refered to as community help which means that we don't have access to canonicals infrastructure so we really can't help you with their SSO service
[00:38] <BroBert> so what do i do?
[00:38] <bekks> BroBert: Not for me. But maybe you want to accept the answers of others, since I wont bother with your issue anymore.
[00:38] <Sneglen> maveas: Det virket sgu. MATLAB er nu aktiveret. Tak for hjælp :)
[00:39] <_cronus_> curtism, so even if you create a partition with gparted installer won't see it because of some metadata on the disk.
[00:39] <maveas> Sneglen: Sweet dude :D
[00:39] <maveas> channels*
[00:39] <BroBert> bekks, i didnt mean to be insulting, its just 3 of u answering me at once dude XD
[00:39] <_cronus_> curtism, unfortunatelly i don't know any details.
[00:39] <kostkon> BroBert, tried the forgot my password option? just saying. at least, that should be your last resort
[00:39] <BroBert> and u all keep thuinking it knows my email
[00:39] <BroBert> it cant possibly
[00:39] <maveas> BroBert: DUDE
[00:39] <maveas> BroBert: 1. You SIGNED up..
[00:39] <BroBert> ya i tried that and it says it sent it, but i havent gotten it
[00:40] <franl> BroBert, if you click the link in the email they sent you, then it knows your email.
[00:40] <maveas> BroBert: 2. Something went wrong
[00:40] <BroBert> no no no
[00:40] <maveas> BroBert: 3. But the server still know your mail by the session
[00:40] <Linch> Hi all!
[00:40] <lb27> Linch: hey
[00:41] <BroBert> https://one.ubuntu.com/
[00:41] <BroBert> go here
[00:41] <BroBert> hit sign up
[00:41] <BroBert> low right corner
[00:41] <maveas> BroBert: I'm already signed ;)
[00:41] <BroBert> hit login support
[00:41] <BroBert> looking for suport wiht logging in... submit
[00:41] <BroBert> "Thank you for your interest in Canonical Global Support Services.
[00:41] <BroBert> A member of the Global Support Services team will be in touch shortly to discuss your needs.
[00:41] <BroBert> In the mean time, here are some links you may find useful:"
[00:41] <BroBert> maveas, see what i meant now?
[00:42] <BroBert> it shouldnt know who to contact
[00:42] <Linch> What are discussing?
[00:42] <maveas> BroBert: Lol, yeah okey.. That's weird
[00:42] <franl> BroBert, but is there a help link available if you click the link in the email they sent you?  If so, that help link _does_ know your email.
[00:42] <maveas> BroBert: Sorry dude :P
[00:43] <maveas> BroBert: But you need to take it to Canonical directly. You wont get any help here..
[00:43] <leptone> im seeing huge cpu usage 100-300% when running minecraft on 12.04 with open jdk or sun. can anyone help?
[00:44] <maveas> BroBert: Unless someone from Canonical etc. is online?
[00:44] <kostkon> BroBert, actually, there is an ubuntu one subforum on the forums, you could also try asking there
[00:44] <BroBert> let me see
[00:44] <BroBert> maveas, its ok bro <3
[00:44] <BroBert> kostkon, thats what i think ill try doing
[00:45] <franl> BroBert, you can also sign up with another email address, and ask them to release your original email address because of the snafu.
[00:45] <kostkon> BroBert, yeah, at least give it a try
[00:45] <BroBert> i tried it with my email link as well, just to see if i can get a response
[00:46] <BroBert> but im gone go ahead and try to post on the forums as well
[00:46] <BroBert> anyway thanks for the assistance anyway guys
[00:46] <franl> And if all else fails, ask for your money back.  Wait, what?
[00:48] <CallingPanther> anyone know about Dancer-IRCD?
[00:48] <dr_willis> Its an irc server. ;)
[00:48] <CallingPanther> I am haveing an issue
[00:49] <CallingPanther> i can't get ops for some reason
[00:51] <CMaster> Peace Peace all
[00:51] <BroBert> hey
[00:51] <BroBert> omg u guys
[00:51] <BroBert> i figured out what i did
[00:51] <BroBert> "If you don't know what this is about, then someone has probably entered your email address by mistake. Sorry about that.
[00:51] <BroBert> If you wish to report this email being incorrectly used, please click the following link:
[00:51] <BroBert>  
[00:51] <BroBert> https://login.ubuntu.com/invalidate-email/6MDWRQ/robertbcolton@hotmail.com"
[00:51] <FloodBot1> BroBert: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <BroBert> i clicked that link thinking it was a verify link
[00:52] <BroBert> kostkon, ^ franl ^
[00:52] <kostkon> BroBert, :)
[00:52] <BroBert> now when i try to reset the password it says error the emails in invalidate
[00:52] <BroBert> so now ho w would i go about getting this undone?
[00:53] <maveas> BroBert: Register again?
[00:53] <BroBert> maveas, wont let me, email is invalidated
[00:53] <franl> Use a different email address.
[00:53] <maveas> BroBert: Doh, ofc. I'm really tired. Shouldn't be trying to help ppl at this time. :P Good luck with it
[00:53] <BroBert> i suppose thats ok
[00:54] <BroBert> i planon switching from hotmail anyway
[00:54] <BroBert> cause their like breaking it appart and it looks all metro now
[00:54] <BroBert> its complete shit
[00:54] <BroBert> no more skydrive or anything
[00:57] <mandoguit> !did not work
[01:01] <subcool> histo, you around?
[01:02] <sam113101> not sure I understand the behavior of nautilus concerning thumbnails… in some directories it creates them
[01:02] <sam113101> but not in all of them
[01:03] <CallingPanther> Never mind I restarted it and now it works
[01:07] <joshlegs> the crap?
[01:07] <joshlegs> Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-women (You are banned)
[01:07] <joshlegs> what's the deal with that shit?
[01:07] <sam113101> oh, there's a channel for women?
[01:07] <joshlegs> yeah
[01:07] <sam113101> awesome
[01:07] <joshlegs> and i got banned, even after celebrating international women's day
[01:07] <joshlegs> the fuck?
[01:08] <Guest29222> where would be a sensible place to run a setxkbmap script?
[01:08] <sam113101> you might want to change your nick for joshialegs? I don't know
[01:08] <joshlegs> sam113101: but why would they allow only women there
[01:08] <joshlegs> that's stupid.
[01:08] <sam113101> I don't know if they do
[01:08] <joshlegs> we should ban all women from using ubuntu i say
[01:08] <joshlegs> because they're apparently technology retarded
[01:09] <Guest29222> they should try fedora
[01:09] <sam113101> where's the channel?
[01:09] <tgm4883> !coc
[01:09] <sam113101> is it on freenode?
[01:10] <sam113101> oh wait
[01:10] <sam113101> nvm
[01:10] <sam113101> I'm
[01:10] <sam113101> there
[01:15] <sam113101> can someone help me fix the thumbnails in nautilus?
[01:16] <selena2013> yea
[01:16] <nashant> Hey guys. How would I go about replacing all ( for [ and all ) for ] in a list of subdirectories?
[01:16] <selena2013> whats thumbnails ?
[01:17] <nashant> well, not ALL
[01:17] <sacramento> #ubuntuscbr
[01:17] <nashant> but only those matching /(\d\d\d\d)/
[01:17] <joshlegs> nashant: mv?
[01:18] <joshlegs> i'd make a script to list all the directories so you can double check them, then make a script to mv them all
[01:18] <sam113101> mix of find and mv I guess?
[01:18] <sam113101> selena2013: the little pictures in place of icons, in a directory listing
[01:18] <nashant> joshlegs: Well yeah, that's the idea, but I don't know how to do it
[01:19] <joshlegs> i'd do what sam113101 said
[01:19] <joshlegs> just a matter of learning some basic bash
[01:19] <joshlegs> then putting it in a script. not too hard
[01:20] <sam113101> I think even a one-liner could do it
[01:21] <sam113101> nashant: a "list" of subdirectories?
[01:22] <nashant> so it's a case of listing all subdirectories, searching each directory name for /(\d\d\d\d)/, extracting the \d\d\d\d and the part before into different variables, then moving to $a[$b]
[01:23] <sam113101> nashant: can you please pastebin the output of tree -d /path/to/the/directory?
[01:23] <sam113101> also an example of what you want
[01:23] <dr_willis> watch  out for spaces in the  names. ;)
[01:24] <dr_willis> learned  that the  hard way  once.
[01:24] <hue_man_>  /list
[01:25] <dr_willis> ive done similer tasks in  a simi--automated way with the qmv command nashant .
[01:25] <jrib> nashant: use "rename"?
[01:26] <nashant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597623/
[01:26] <dr_willis> nashant:  is this going to be a one time task? or somthing you do every day?
[01:26] <nashant> It's that, but for about 600 albums
[01:26] <nashant> One time task
[01:27] <dr_willis> all recursive directories in the whole tree correct?
[01:27] <nashant> yup
[01:27] <robbbbbbbbbbbb> hey steffi
[01:27] <nashant> They're currently in Artist/Album (Year)/
[01:27] <dr_willis> wouldent it be best to use some actual id3 tager tool to put the correct info in the mp3 files/ ;)  or are you  only  wanting to rename the directories?
[01:28] <dr_willis> You  want to keep the  year but lose the ()  or lose the year also?
[01:28] <nashant> no, they're in Artist/Artist - Album (Year)/
[01:28] <nashant> I want Artist/Artist - Album [Year]/
[01:28] <nashant> Well yeah, I do need to tag them properly
[01:29] <nashant> I thought headphones would do that, but it bloody hasn't
[01:29] <leptone> please help http://pastebin.com/WjLzDVHM
[01:30] <dr_willis> theres plenty of other mp3/id3 tagger tools in the repos...
[01:31] <dr_willis> you  just want to change () into []
[01:31] <nashant> Just want to change the () to []
[01:32] <dr_willis> im not sure if qmv does recursively.. it might  be able to. ;)  its a bit of a unusual command. it puts all the files/names in a text file you edit with an editor, save, exxit.. it does the renameing
[01:32] <dr_willis> i use it all the time. just a simple search/replace all in the text editor to change all the 9 to [ and ) to ]
[01:33] <SloarisBoy> there is this python plugin called beets that really rocks for tagging/organizing libraries
[01:34] <SloarisBoy> i actually only use that to import into my ~/Music and it's been spot on each time - always turns out properly in my players droid/itunes/whatever
[01:34] <dr_willis> i dont really see the point in having the year after the  album name. ;)
[01:34]  * dr_willis jamms to Kenny G.
[01:34] <SloarisBoy> it's generally somewhere in the tags right?
[01:34] <SloarisBoy> release year or w/e
[01:35] <nashant> Yeah, but it makes life easier when I need to rebuild my headphones database
[01:35] <SloarisBoy> http://beets.radbox.org/
[01:36] <dr_willis> i finally found my old box of cds - i ripped them all to mp3 like 10 yrs ago. ;)  may need to  rerip them all  in better quality.
[01:36] <dr_willis> back  when 'music match jukebox' was the  hot app to  use.
[01:36] <SloarisBoy> dr_willis: to what format did you do it to?
[01:36] <dr_willis> bback  then it was basically  mp3 and thats it. ;p
[01:36] <SloarisBoy> oh that was a while ago i wonder what lossless stuff they had available then
[01:36] <SloarisBoy> ahh haha lol
[01:37] <dr_willis> back  when it would take 30 min to rip a cd... or longer
[01:37] <SloarisBoy> thats just rude
[01:40] <dr_willis> i definatly rember being  amazed when my  'new' pc was able to rip/encode at the same time it would play.. and have the whole cd encoded/ripped befor  it  was  even done playing all the songs at the same time..  ;)
[01:40] <dr_willis> and getting some 'new' music cd's  that came with mp3 files allready on them as a bonus data track was  fantastic. ;)
[01:42] <shann> hi
[01:42] <shann> i found little bug in Raring
[01:43] <bekks> shann: Then submit a bug or refer to #ubuntu+1 please
[01:43] <shann> ok i join it
[01:49] <nashant> right, All albums are in one directory now
[01:51] <nashant> Now it's just a case of replacing all () with []
[01:52] <jabulmer12> hello, looking for a little help with my nexus 7
[01:52] <jabulmer12> is any one around and willing to help?
[01:55] <dr_willis> theres the #Ubuntu-arm   and tablet channels normally for that jabulmer12
[01:55] <dr_willis> !arm
[01:55] <jabulmer12> im in there too but no ones around :/
[01:57] <naildeca> #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <lunux-user> hey
[01:59] <dr_willis> hello
[01:59] <dr_willis> !tablet
[01:59] <lunux-user> whats up?
[01:59] <dr_willis> im amazed at the innovative name for 'ubuntu-touch'  ;)
[01:59] <Grimhound> How did Xubuntu turn into a heavier O/S than Windows 7?
[02:00] <luck> ls
[02:00] <dr_willis> xubuntu uses  a lot of the gnome stuff.
[02:00] <dr_willis> its been  gaining weight for some time now.
[02:00] <Grimhound> I ask that honestly. Xubuntu is heavier and less weildy than Windows 7. It's pathetic.
[02:00] <lunux-user> Its open source n its for free
[02:00] <Grimhound> I can barely do anything.
[02:01] <dr_willis> Benchmarks needed...
[02:01] <dr_willis> Then again. if you wnat a light  desktop. Lubuntu  is the way to go.
[02:01] <lunux-user> wine suck
[02:01] <Grimhound> A Compaq Presario C712nr laptop.
[02:01] <Grimhound> Something old as dirt
[02:01] <lunux-user> i cant play n install some games using wine
[02:01] <dr_willis> Lubuntu may  definatly be a better choice then
[02:02] <dr_willis> lunux-user:  theres no guarentees that wine will work.. but it doerrs work with a great many apps and games
[02:02] <dr_willis> !appdb | lunux-user
[02:02] <Grimhound> I mean, I own Windows 7
[02:02] <GarySeven> Hello, all
[02:02] <sam113101> how do I pin something to the launch bar?
[02:03] <dr_willis> sam113101:  normally  you right click and it has a pin item
[02:03] <sam113101> yes but it doesn't seem to work with sublime text
[02:03] <lunux-user> im using ubuntu 12.04
[02:03] <xangua> sam113101: you can also drag it from the dash
[02:03] <dr_willis> sublime text editor seems to cause a lot of issues.. You  may  want to check  their forums.
[02:03] <lunux-user> whAts ur versions ppl ?
[02:03] <GarySeven> I'm looking to get a more modern laptop for 12.10 than my current HP EliteBook 6930p. Anyone have a preference/experience with HP or Dell and Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Grimhound> I remember when Ubuntu was as light as Windows XP
[02:03] <dr_willis> could be due to  sublime not having a standard/default/included sublime.desktop file for a launcher
[02:03] <Grimhound> Long, long ago
[02:04] <wad> Does ubuntu come with a program for flipping through a bunch of digital photos?
[02:04] <GarySeven> Wad: try Shotwell
[02:04] <wad> ok
[02:04] <lunux-user> BACKTRACK 5 awesomeeeeeeeeee
[02:04] <sam113101> maybe I could create one?
[02:04] <dr_willis> GarySeven:  you may want to look ito the  companies like system76 also.
[02:04] <xangua> lunux-user: if you don't have a support issue you can just keep quiet ;)
[02:04] <GarySeven> I did, thanks. One small issue: I want a backlit keyboard for less than the $1500 of the top of the line model
[02:04] <dr_willis> sam113101:  thats a common faq about that editor i  see asked a lot in here..  if enough people complain on the sublime forums/support - they  might start including one.
[02:05] <lunux-user> free internet on linux ? im tired of paying bills
[02:05] <sam113101> dr_willis: maybe I create mine and suggest them
[02:05] <dr_willis> GarySeven:  i dont really  see the point in $1000+ laptops these days..   i normally get one in the $700 range.. then  a year or so  later get a nother for $700 thats got better specs then the $1500 one...
[02:05] <sam113101> any doc on how to create them?
[02:05] <dr_willis> sam113101:  ive seen at least 5 or 6 people  doing  the same task  over the  last month.
[02:06] <dr_willis> copy/edit the gedit.desktop  file for  an example
[02:06] <GarySeven> I agree, Dr. Thanks for the perspective!
[02:06] <Tuxiscool> Hi. I just installed the latest ubuntu version, and have noticed that firefox will often ask if I want to install things to make some website experiences more convenient... where can I go to find documentation on how to make one of these 'conveniences' for my own application?
[02:06] <raccarti> Where did ntfsprogs do in raring? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ntfsprogs shows up right up to quantal then it disappears
[02:06] <linuxer3254> so, if root can change user's passwd, but user can't change own passwd, anyone know where the problem likely lies?
[02:06] <raccarti> *did ntfsprogs go in ...
[02:06] <Grimhound> If I had a genie that offered me 3 wishes, one would be for perfect Linux drivers.
[02:06] <dr_willis> i  imagine its been asked on askubuntu.com  also. i really dont see the point in useing sublime.. it seems to  be problematic.
[02:06] <Grimhound> Alternatively, a perfect operating system.
[02:07] <dr_willis> raccarti:  #ubuntu+1 for raring.
[02:07] <raccarti> okay
[02:07] <dr_willis> raccarti:  and  it  may  have been merged into the ntfs-3g utilities packages
[02:07] <linuxer3254> anyone ... ? this seems like it should be an easy problem for someone knowledgeable ...
[02:10] <Tuxiscool> Never mind... found http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/
[02:10] <dr_willis> webapps is a neat idea.. that dosent seem to work well.
[02:11] <trism> linuxer3254: which passwd; and: ls -l /usr/bin/passwd;
[02:12] <linuxer3254> trism: users can run passwd, and it will authenticate their current one and offer to change their new one, but then it gives a "token manipulation error" and says the password is unchanged
[02:12] <OIS> hi! Got Ubuntu 12.10. Moved firefox from one workspace to another. Now all windows open small and I can't maximize them
[02:13] <OIS> don't have numpad on this machine
[02:13] <linuxer3254> trism: have tried passwords that are ultra random and complicated, so I don't think it's a pw quality issue
[02:13] <OIS> How do I maximize a window/program?
[02:13] <dr_willis> linuxer3254:  seen that if the  / fs is mounted read only.  or  the  file  is  currupted
[02:13] <dr_willis> OIS:  double click  the title bar is one way
[02:14] <dr_willis> drag to the top  of  the screen is aother way
[02:14] <lawdy`> khaytsus and ports are going to troll u
[02:14] <OIS> dr_willis, doesn't work and doesn't work :(
[02:14] <dr_willis> what desktop are you  using?
[02:14] <dr_willis> doble click is fairly  standard in most all of them
[02:14] <linuxer3254> dr_willis: /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw)
[02:14] <OIS> dr_willis, aspireone something
[02:15] <lawdy`> Porkepix,
[02:15] <linuxer3254> dr_willis: which file?
[02:15] <trism> linuxer3254: that didn't answer either of my questions
[02:16] <slide> Is there a way to force a nfs export to report itself as being a certain directory without it actually being at that location on the server?
[02:16] <linuxer3254> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42840 Sep  6  2012 /usr/bin/passwd
[02:16] <dr_willis> linuxer3254:  the passwd file in /etc/
[02:16] <trism> linuxer3254: there's your problem right there
[02:16] <linuxer3254> trism: yeah?
[02:16] <trism> linuxer3254: it needs to be -rwsr-xr-x
[02:17] <dr_willis> suid bit is missing.. wonder  how that happened
[02:17] <linuxer3254> trism: dr_willis: ooh, cool ... how do I fix that ?
[02:17] <jrib> linuxer3254: imo, the more important question is, how did it break?
[02:17] <linuxer3254> dr_willis: I ran bastille hardening ... and then undid it ... perhaps that was it?
[02:18] <dr_willis> bastille - egads. ;)
[02:18] <dr_willis> i remember  that causing such issues.. like  6+ yrs ago when it was popular.
[02:18] <ekoffel> Hey all
[02:19] <ekoffel> Can i clone a diskless image to a hard drive?
[02:19] <xyzone> diskless image?
[02:20] <linuxer3254> trism: is it possible to summarize why /etc/passwd needs to be rwsr- ... ? I'm curious ...
[02:20] <OIS> dr_willis, figured it out - ctrl + super + up arrow
[02:20] <OIS> thanks anyway :)
[02:22] <dr_willis> sounds like you got deeper issues OIS
[02:22] <OIS> dr_willis, ?
[02:23] <trism> linuxer3254: needs permission to write to /etc/shadow if you want to change your passwd as a normal user
[02:23] <linuxer3254> k
[02:23] <linuxer3254> trism: I see.
[02:24] <dr_willis> OIS: when standard gui featurs like double clicking is not working.. you got somthing wonky
[02:24] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody can help me in dependency tracking?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2123602
[02:25] <linuxer3254> trism: dr_willis: jrib: worked :)
[02:25] <OIS> dr_willis, yeah windows don't have titlebars i seems
[02:25] <maxped> is nfs supposed to be able to use symlinks? i seem to be having some issues in that department.
[02:26] <OIS> but I had to disable a few things to make it work on this old machine, was really slow
[02:26] <ekoffel> Xyzone pxe image
[02:26] <dr_willis> OIS: that why then.. you got no compiz running.
[02:27] <dr_willis> OIS:  try lubuntu on old hardware
[02:28] <OIS> dr_willis, will look into it thanks. chose this version to test/use the hd full encryption
[02:30] <linuxer3254> thanks all!
[02:31] <OIS> dr_willis, what's the best way to install lubuntu from ubuntu?
[02:31] <OIS> Ive always installed linux over windows... :P
[02:32] <OIS> never mind I googled it ;)
[02:33] <ekoffel> This is what tring to do is clonne diskless pxe image to a hdd and boot it is it possible?
[02:33] <xyzone> yes, it is
[02:34] <ekoffel> Is there a how to?
[02:36] <lolcat89> Hi, I am doing UNIX homework on Ubuntu. How can I print to my usb printer via lpr ? Is this even possible?
[02:40] <lolcat89> anyone :(
[02:40] <ekoffel> Xyzone is there a how to guide to do it
[02:40] <ekoffel> :-) ?
[02:41] <xyzone> ekoffel, idk
[02:41] <xyzone> but I've done it in the past
[02:42] <ekoffel> Is it easy?
[02:42] <ekoffel> Can you tell how?
[02:45] <xyzone> ekoffel, I dont remember, but I did it with puppy linux
[02:46] <ekoffel> I been searching google nothing oout there so i am thinking it can not be done
[03:01] <SeldonH> bonsoie
[03:01] <SeldonH> bonsoir
[03:04] <lolcat89> how to I find out my printer name so I can print with the terminal via lpr -P <printername> filename
[03:05] <hide_> anyone around
[03:05] <hide_> need help
[03:08] <hero100> ubuntu12.10 will automatically shutdown. both laptop and desktop. how can i figure out what's going wrong?
[03:09] <hero100> after reboot, the system will become very slow
[03:16] <ASmath> Greetings... Night..
[03:18] <goddard> whats is a good read write speed for todays ssds ?
[03:18] <ASmath> I have some trouble with a kernel actualization. My Kubuntu is crashed and do not start. Froze in the initial silver screen.. I'll really appreciate an suggest.
[03:19] <hero100> my ubuntu crashed many times today
[03:19] <hide_> I need help as well iam new to ubuntu i recently noticed my screen light diming down and ubuntu is lagging now my mouse froze too
[03:20] <hero100> hide_: I have the problem yesterday
[03:21] <hero100> can you boot another kernel?
[03:21] <hide_> any idea how to fix it hero
[03:22] <hero100> can you boot another kernel?
[03:22] <hero100> then you can fix it
[03:22] <hide_> me
[03:22] <hide_> how do i do it
[03:22] <hide_> iam new to this
[03:22] <ASmath> hero100: I have a similar problem.. With me, does not work select another kernel..
[03:23] <dr_willis> the grub menu has items to select older kernels
[03:23] <hero100> choosing advanced something during the start up process
[03:24] <hero100> ASmath: me too
[03:24] <ASmath> hero100: Press shift in the time boot to load the grub..
[03:24] <lolcat89> does anyone know how to print to a usb printer via the terminal? :(
[03:24] <dr_willis> set it as the default printer. use the lpr command.. is one way
[03:24] <ASmath> I have to reinstall my Kubuntu.. Probably..
[03:25] <dr_willis> cups.org may have more docs on it
[03:25] <hero100> hide_: it seems to be a failed update
[03:26] <maxped> does nfs support symlinks? i seem to be having issues in that area
[03:26] <hero100> here is my problem pci0000:00: >ACPI _OSC request failed (AE_ERROR), returned control mask: 0x1d. how can i figure out what's it mean
[03:27] <dr_willis> maxped:  my guess would be it has differnt options on how to handle them. for various security reasons. I dont think you can link  outside the nfs share
[03:28] <lolcat89> dr_willis so if I just set the name as "canon" and do lpr -Pcanon filename it should work?
[03:29] <man>  - - 大家好
[03:29] <ASmath> The O.S. alert to a new upgrade.. When I do the course" upgrade, my system crash... :| How understand it?? Embarasing..
[03:31] <dr_willis> lolcat89:  if its set to be the default printer you wont even need to tell it a name.
[03:31] <lolcat89> how do I set it to default sir?
[03:31] <dr_willis> lolcat89:  cups config tools.. or web interface
[03:32] <ASmath> dr_willis: How can I reconfigure my kernel later had upgraded?
[03:32] <dr_willis> ASmath:  ive not needed to mess with the kernel since ive started using ubuntu.
[03:33] <dr_willis> yyou  can edit the grub configs to select what default entry to use.. if thats what you  mean
[03:33] <ASmath>  dr_willis I want to delete the one installed.. It crashed my O.S.
[03:34] <dr_willis> you can uninstall kenrnels if you  want. via the package manager
[03:34] <dr_willis> id boot to an older kernel first to prove it was a kernel upgrade issue
[03:35] <ASmath> I have to reconfigure the xorg and delete the kernel.. My O.S. does not start.. I have to do it in recovery mode.. Prefect.. I will do that.
[03:35] <dr_willis> i dont follow your logic of reconfogure the xorg.
[03:36] <dr_willis> try an older kernel from the grub menu.. see if it works.. if it does.. remove the  newer  kernel.
[03:36] <lolcat89> dr_willis it says I cannot open the printers.conf because I dont have permissions. How would I open that as admin
[03:36] <dr_willis> lolcat89:  whats saying that?
[03:36] <dr_willis> cups web interface asks for the sudoers password normally
[03:36] <dr_willis> i imagien the cups config tools should ask also
[03:37] <lolcat89> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=861160
[03:37] <lolcat89> e.g. change <Printer Deskjet_D2400_series> to <DefaultPrinter Deskjet_D2400_series>
[03:38] <dr_willis> if you  are editing a system file by hand. you need to use sudo of course
[03:38] <maxped> dr_willis: real quick. i want to make a user/pass webpage that i can let friends upload files. it would have to be a browser because not many can grasp ftp or other options. i have installed LAMP and been looking into php but im not sure what direction to go in. got any pointers? thanks.
[03:38] <dr_willis> maxped:  teach them to use winscp.  is about all i have ever done. I dont do web/lamp/php
[03:41] <nightdemon666> um, maxped... would your friends be uploading files, or downloading files?... just curious?
[03:43] <lolcat89> man I have no idea how to set this defualt printer, so confused :(
[03:44] <nightdemon666> you cant just right click and set as default printer lolcat?
[03:44] <holstein> lolcat89: do you have more than one printer? can you test print to all of them? have you right-clicked on the one you want as default and looked for the default option?
[03:44] <maxped> dr_willis: thanks for the input. have a good one.
[03:45] <lolcat89> holstein no I only have one, I can test print and I do not see an word "default" when I right click the printer :(
[03:45] <ASmath> dr_willis: Select older kernel.. FAIL. Reconfigure the xorg.. Right.. I do not have to do it "ab initio".. It is ok..
[03:45] <holstein> lolcat89: it'll just be the printer that gest used
[03:45] <ASmath> :)
[03:46] <ASmath> dr_willis: I already tried select all of the kernels available here.. Nothing happened.
[03:47] <dr_willis> ASmath:  sounds like its not a kernel upgrade that broke stuff then
[03:47] <ASmath> dr_willis: I mean.. The xorg, is about the driver.. The kernel may can did something.. I suppose!
[03:48] <lolcat89> holstein when I do lpr myfile it says "No file in print request."
[03:48] <ASmath> dr_willis: All later upgraded the kernel..
[03:48] <lolcat89> and I did touch myfile to create the file
[03:49] <JRS_> #dh-support
[03:49] <kondor`> JRS_: Error: "dh-support" is not a valid command.
[03:49] <kondor> JRS_: Error: "dh-support" is not a valid command.
[03:49] <jpmh> maxped:  it is about 4 lines of perl to do what you want
[03:49] <JRS_> dh-support
[03:50] <JRS_> irc.corrupt-net.org
[03:50] <holstein> lolcat89: i would test with a gui
[03:50] <lolcat89> holstein what do you mean?
[03:50] <pawan> hi
[03:50] <holstein> lolcat89: i mean, test with something like gedit.. something you know works
[03:51] <lolcat89> yes it works with gedit
[03:51] <lolcat89> when i do file print
[03:51] <holstein> lolcat89: then, its not hte printer
[03:51] <pawan> cant get higher resolution
[03:51] <lolcat89> holsetin lpr <filename> is the format though right?
[03:51] <dr_willis> the cups.org had docs on command line ussage of the  cups system
[03:51] <dr_willis> what sort of file are you tryign to print?
[03:52] <pawan> only 1024*768
[03:52] <holstein> pawan: i would look at what graphics driver you have.. consider installing a proprietary driver if there is one for your device.. consider a custom xorg.conf
[03:52] <holstein> lolcat89: i would say, since we know its capable of printing, and its not.. then i would look at that command as being the issue
[03:52] <pawan> i have intel i865 board
[03:52] <pawan> no graphics card
[03:52] <nightdemon666> so you mean you have onboard graphics pawan
[03:52] <pawan> yes
[03:52] <holstein> pawan: that *is* your graphics device.. but i would move on to the second suggestion then
[03:53] <nightdemon666> i second holsteins comments
[03:53] <holstein> nightdemon666: :)
[03:53] <nightdemon666> but... are there "proprietary" drivers for intel???
[03:54] <holstein> nightdemon666: there might be alternative drivers or modules, i suppose, but not proprietary options AFAIK
[03:54] <pawan> cant get to install propriety drivers
[03:54] <holstein> pawan: correct.. so try a custom xorg.conf
[03:54] <pawan> how
[03:55] <nightdemon666> i would go with xorg config file. had to do that on the machine im on right now, and if i remember correctly, i was chatting with you about doing a dual head system on this machine holstein :P
[03:55] <holstein> pawan: i usually just fire up a knoppix live CD, get the desktop looking like i want, and copy the xorg.conf from there and take it to ubuntu
[03:55] <holstein> nightdemon666: glad its working !
[03:55] <pawan> any other way i dont have live cd
[03:56] <holstein> pawan: sure.. you can just search about and grab one or search for one for your specific device.. or just learn to create one with the options you need
[03:56] <dr_willis> for intel - the drivers should be installed. there are 3rd party ppa/repos that have newer versions of the intel drivers and X. I think thats the xswat ppa
[03:57] <lolcat89> this should be working, according to the cups.org info
[03:57] <pawan> how to install third party
[03:57] <holstein> pawan: the xswat ppa dr_willis is mentioning is an option.. but i doubt you need a newer driver
[03:57] <holstein> pawan: you can get what you need with a custom xorg.conf
[03:57] <lolcat89> it says the default system destination is canon
[03:57] <wolferiac> man xorg.conf
[03:57] <holstein> pawan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342784
[03:57] <lolcat89> so the printer is default and the test works, the command is so simple I don't see how that could be it :C
[03:58] <nightdemon666> um lol, holstein, actually i never did get it working :( i did try the knoppix cd, but it still didnt cooperate. either that or i was doing it wrong :(
[03:58] <holstein> pawan: its not trivial.. and thats why i just grab a live CD.. you can also try arandr
[03:58] <holstein> nightdemon666: :/
[04:01] <dr_willis> lolcat89: check the cups logs and lpq command output
[04:01] <pawan> how to get what all display modes are available
[04:01] <dr_willis> pawan: xandr can show those i think
[04:02] <nightdemon666> xrander pawan
[04:02] <nightdemon666> enter xrander in command line
[04:02] <nightdemon666> it should show all "possible" modes
[04:03] <nightdemon666> i suggest you create a custom xorg.config file. sounds liek your issue may be a lot easier to solve than my dual head not working issue :/
[04:03] <lolcat89> dr_willis it says canon is ready, no entries
[04:03] <lolcat89> my file is just typescript so I should be able to do lp typescript
[04:04] <holstein> lolcat89: try something simpler.. try txt
[04:05] <itsthattimeagain> quick question: what is the command to find out if system is 32bit or 64bit
[04:05] <lolcat89> holstein no luck
[04:05] <OerHeks> type in terminal: arch
[04:06] <itsthattimeagain> i686
[04:06] <OerHeks> or have fun with : lscpu
[04:06] <DankenseN> good evening dear all
[04:06] <holstein> lolcat89: well, you know the printer prints.. and you can print that *.txt file.. so its not the printer, or driver, or anything like that
[04:07] <lolcat89> even if I specify the printer name like it says on cups,org using lp -d printer filename
[04:07] <itsthattimeagain> lscpu: CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[04:07] <Linuks83_> hello all, i've got an atheros ar9287 adapter and it will not connect at 802.11n speeds. b/g only... i checked here (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1046800) and downloaded / installed the 3.6 kernel, but no joy after a reboot.
[04:07] <holstein> lolcat89: sure, but its still not a problem with the printing infrastructure
[04:07] <lolcat89> holstein I get request id is canon-25 (1 file(s))
[04:08] <holstein> lolcat89: http://blog.nguyenvq.com/2011/04/13/lpr-printing-on-command-line/
[04:09] <emperor> hola buenas noches. Ayuda ubuntu in spanish please ... thanks
[04:10] <holstein> !es
[04:10] <kondor`> holstein: Error: "es" is not a valid command.
[04:10] <kondor> holstein: Error: "es" is not a valid command.
[04:10] <dr_willis> !bot
[04:10] <kondor`> dr_willis: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.
[04:10] <kondor> dr_willis: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.
[04:10] <dr_willis> kondor: yu should turn off your bot scripts
[04:10] <kondor> dr_willis: Error: "yu" is not a valid command.
[04:11] <OerHeks> kondor ande kondor`  please disable your bot
[04:11] <kondor> OerHeks: Error: "ande" is not a valid command.
[04:11] <dr_willis> kondor: quit
[04:11] <kondor> dr_willis: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[04:12] <nurupo> !es | emperor
[04:12] <kondor`> nurupo: Error: "es" is not a valid command.
[04:12] <kondor> nurupo: Error: "es" is not a valid command.
[04:12] <nurupo> dr_willis: forgot to pipeline :)
[04:13] <nurupo> oh
[04:13] <Enrique_h> hallo ... good nigth
[04:13] <nurupo> holstein: forgot to pipeline :)
[04:13] <DankenseN> where could i find bash exercices ?
[04:13] <holstein> nurupo: ?
[04:13] <Guest86405> hi
[04:13] <lolcat89> holstein the cups jobs log shows the jobs are being registerd
[04:13] <knoppies> DankenseN, you mean a tutorial or just things to practice with?
[04:13] <lolcat89> but nothing is printing
[04:13] <lolcat89> it is the weirdest thing
[04:13] <Enrique_h> i need join in mode ROOT in Kubuntu 12.04
[04:14] <Guest86405> how do i install "network proxy" on backbox any idea
[04:14] <pawan> hi
[04:14] <pawan> cant get higher resolution
[04:14] <holstein> pawan: with the custom xorg.conf?
[04:14] <IdleOne> !fr | konam
[04:14] <kondor`> IdleOne: Error: "fr" is not a valid command.
[04:14] <kondor> IdleOne: Error: "fr" is not a valid command.
[04:15] <DankenseN> knoppies, i'm noob and learning :-) i just want some exercices to practice
[04:15] <holstein> pawan: if you havent tried a custom xorg.conf ,that is what to try next
[04:15] <Guest86405> hi
[04:15] <holstein> !sudo | Enrique_h
[04:19] <MoPac> So the glitches in 12.10 with workspace management and keyboard shortcuts are really getting to me, and I was thinking about a premature upgrade to Ringtail.  Could someone give me a sense of how stable and well-supported by software it is at this point?  The resealse isn't far off, but I don't know if the best pulls only come at the end?
[04:19] <Enrique_h> hello my English is very bad. but I have a question. As I can access the root user in kubuntu. and I need to install software that asks me root privileges. I tried using the command | sudo in the console, but I had no results ...
[04:20] <psusi> MoPac, it's generally considered to be working fairly well, as in serious breakage is few and far between, but it is by no means stable and well supported
[04:21] <OerHeks> MoPac 13.04 is in alfa2, join #ubuntu+1 for questions and support
[04:23] <MoPac> OerHeks: thanks for the redirect
[04:23] <Enrique_h> ubottu hello
[04:25] <Enrique_h> helloo
[04:26] <man>  - -
[04:31] <doomlord> cann cron & rsync be used to setup file coherence between 2 locations - if you update anything on either machine, the most recent changes are propogated
[04:32] <nightdemon666> doomlord, havent considered that one before. not sure :/ what would you be using that for?
[04:32] <nightdemon666> if you dont mind me asking...
[04:32] <doomlord> keeping a laptop & desktop source tree in sync
[04:33] <doomlord> i realise a more conventional approach is to comit/fetch from a source-control system
[04:33] <doomlord> but i'd be doing that aswell
[04:33] <somsip> doomlord: put the whole directory in a dropbox-type thing?
[04:34] <doomlord> doesn't want to be cloud based; just wants to be on my lan
[04:34] <nightdemon666> is this for sharing files??? kind of like how packages from apt are updated and synced with local package list???
[04:34] <doomlord> not at all
[04:34] <doomlord> well... i could probably just acheive what i want with an SCM like git
[04:34] <nightdemon666> not sure what a source tree is.. my bad :P
[04:35] <doomlord> working directory of sourcecode
[04:35] <doomlord> the point being .. actually commiting & updating is a mental step
[04:35] <doomlord> with 2 locations on 2 machines in sync i can just jump from laptop to desktop without thinking about it
[04:35] <somsip> doomlord: lots of suggestions here but YMMV http://arstechnica.com/civis//viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1152308
[04:36] <nightdemon666> interesting.. well it makes more since to me as you explain it, but unfortunately im not helping lol too busy tring to understand the need
[04:36] <doomlord> maybe 'ubuntu1' could do it, but it will be syncing via the cloud
[04:36] <somsip> doomlord: eg: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[04:36] <doomlord> put it this way...
[04:36] <doomlord> i can have a laptop to give me freedom of movement while i'm busy coding
[04:37] <doomlord> or i could have this type of synching and 2 desktops ... one upstairs one downstairs
[04:37] <doomlord> whatever
[04:37] <somsip> doomlord: gitosis? or similar?
[04:37] <doomlord> its not really a NEED.. its a want
[04:37] <nightdemon666> well, the way i'd handle that i guess is to have access to that source code via ssh or (sftp) :/
[04:37] <nightdemon666> but thats probably a clunky way to go about it
[04:37] <doomlord> git is the standard approach - and I do use git as it is
[04:37] <doomlord> bit its still an actual manual step to sync
[04:38] <doomlord> actually something else that would be handy is doing this between Linux & Mac
[04:40] <nightdemon666> do you want to be able to do it from WAN too?
[04:40] <doomlord> yes over wireless too
[04:40] <doomlord> i *have* done this sort of thing with sftp
[04:41] <doomlord> used my mac to compile source that was actually on my linux box
[04:41] <nightdemon666> then i dont know how just cloud based syncing would be the home run hitter for doing what you wanna do then
[04:41] <doomlord> maybe i should just give in and do that
[04:41] <doomlord> its funny how it can be easier to use a remote cloud service to move data from one machine to another in the same room, lol
[04:42] <nightdemon666> which, for me, why i use ssh servers, and have access to them over the wan and lan, is to have my OWN cloud :)
[04:42] <persona24> Has anyone ever got a program to work on wine?
[04:42] <luck> nightdemon666: how did you study about ssh ?
[04:42] <doomlord> oh another use case:
[04:43] <doomlord> laptop has 1 screen... a spare machine could be driving multiple monitors, with *synergy*... wireless extra screen space :)
[04:43] <doomlord> without having to mess with cables
[04:43] <nightdemon666> luck, i studied by just using it. i learned more and more over time. forced my self ot learn command line. studied how to make it secure (as possible) and learned ot search for apps that support it, ei android apps...
[04:43] <decci> I need to compare Hadoop over lustre rather than hadoop over HDFS. I have 2 OSS, 1MDS and 1 client machine. Do I need to make MDS equivalent to Namenode and OSS equivalent to DataNode. What will be client for?
[04:44] <luck> nightdemon666: nice... I want to know but i don't know how to begin ... any idea?
[04:44] <doomlord> heh
[04:45] <nightdemon666> sudo apt-get install openssh-server, then sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config and configure the file to my liking :)
[04:45] <doomlord> other wishlist feature... upgrade to synergy that can detect the spatial position of a laptop when it comes to moving the cursor between sscreens :)
[04:45] <luck> nightdemon666: ok
[04:45] <nightdemon666> oh, and open the port that i set on my config file using ufw :)
[04:45] <doomlord> but i can live without that
[04:46] <nightdemon666> i tend to perform a sudo ufw default deny, then issue a sudo ufw allow (what ever port number i wanted to use other than 22)
[04:46] <Guest34909> q
[04:49] <nightdemon666> many porple use deny hosts to slow down brute force attacks, and fail2ban... currently i dont have a really big reason to implement that because i check my logs in /var/log/auth.log, and grep out what i suspect to be brute foring attempts. since i changed my port ot a port generally listen to by a different service, its a dead give a away when someone "attemtped" to establish a connection, but did it using the wrong pr
[04:49] <luck> nightdemon666: i intalled it
[04:49] <luck> nightdemon666: what to do next?
[04:50] <nightdemon666> luck, first you shoud always make sure your firewall is active
[04:50] <luck> nightdemon666: how to check? I am using ubuntu
[04:51] <nightdemon666> sudo ufw status.. but since oyu ask the question i'd suggest running sudo ufw enable in your command line. the sudo ufw default deny
[04:52] <luck> nightdemon666: i run it
[04:52] <nightdemon666> so you have ufw enables and denying incoming connections to services by default correct luck?
[04:54] <luck> do i have to type sudo ufw deny??
[04:54] <luck> nightdemon666:  do i have to?
[04:54] <nightdemon666> luck, i simply suggest you to configure your firewall rules because thats good practice, you dont neccesarily have to configure firewall to run ssh
[04:54] <nightdemon666> to run ssh service you type sudo service ssh start in command line
[04:55] <luck> nightdemon666: ok.. anyhoo where to start to read inorder to use ssh? any books or site recoment?
[04:56] <nightdemon666> well, id start with man pages in linux command line
[04:56] <nightdemon666> but, to give you a few pointers, to access your new ssh server from another computer, just type ssh user@ipaddress
[04:57] <nightdemon666> if you change from default port of 22, you type ssh -p port# user@ipaddress (thats LAN or WAN address BTW)
[04:57] <luck> nightdemon666: from this computer or another?
[04:58] <nightdemon666> from another computer luck
[04:58] <Fanfy> Uhmm I need help with my Torrent thing...it won't let me use any other torrent programs except Transmission and that one won't even download any of them
[04:58] <luck> nightdemon666: ok .. so user=the name from this compuer and what is ip and how to find out?
[04:58] <nightdemon666> i do it all the time. from my blackberry or android, or any linux os i get my hands on. im always managing my fiels over ssh/sftp
[04:59] <luck> nightdemon666: sweet... I want to do too... i think i found a right person... can you guide me through basic ??
[05:00] <nightdemon666> luck, yes.. the user is what ever user name you have on that computer.. so it may look like ssh luck@192.168.1.100 or something like that. thats connecting via another computer in your house (LAN) you can find what ip address that server is on by tyoing ifconfig and identifying what interface you have running gets an ip adress from your router/modem
[05:01] <luck> nightdemon666: thanks  friend
[05:02] <Fanfy> Uhm...is there anyone who can help me?
[05:02] <luck> nightdemon666: sorry my friend what i have to type in order to connect this computer
[05:03] <nightdemon666> so say you are running a laptop, likely you are using wireless, you will likely get an ip address on interface wlan0, or eth1. if you look at the ipv4 address, it will likely look like 192.168.1.XXX. thats the address to connect to that computer from the LAN. if you are connecting from somewhere outside your LAN however, you will need ot know your WAN ip. i tend to find that by going to ipdb.at form a computer in my ho
[05:04] <luck> nightdemon666: very thank you my friend .... i get in
[05:05] <luck> nightdemon666: after i login to this computer it said Write failed: host is down
[05:05] <nightdemon666> you are logging in from a different computer right?
[05:06] <luck> nightdemon666: yes .. let say from my mac to this computer
[05:06] <nightdemon666> and you do know the ipaddress assigned to that ssh server right?
[05:06] <baumy> I can't get two gpus to work in ubuntu. I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, my gpus are the gtx 580 and the geforce 210. They both show up in lspci, only the 580 shoows up in nvidia-settings. Only the 580 is actually outputting to monitors right now.
[05:07] <luck> nightdemon666: i think so ..i typed ifconfig ...i take inet addr
[05:07] <nightdemon666> baumy, probably running two different drivers
[05:07] <luck> nightdemon666:  is that right?
[05:07] <baumy> nightdemon666: how would i tell if i am?
[05:07] <nightdemon666> correect, should look like 192.168. something. something
[05:08] <luck> nightdemon666:  but I can't get it tho
[05:09] <luck> nightdemon666:  so how to transfer a file from out side computer to this computer
[05:10] <nightdemon666> thats a bit more complicated luck, lets try getting the cnnection first :)
[05:10] <nightdemon666> ping the ip address firstbefore tryingot connect. if you ping and get replys then you should attempt to connect
[05:10] <nightdemon666> ping 192.168.something.somthing
[05:10] <luck> nightdemon666: alright, i got in
[05:11] <Fanfy> soo...no one can help me with my torrent problem?
[05:11] <nightdemon666> sweet. now to transfer files you use the sftp protocol.... so you dont do that via ssh, but you must have an ssh server to connect via sftp. so from your mac, run sftp user@ipaddress
[05:12] <luck> nightdemon666:  ok
[05:12] <luck> nightdemon666: user=this computer or mac??
[05:12] <nightdemon666> it is the saem user you access via ssh,
[05:12] <nightdemon666> same
[05:13] <luck> nightdemon666: ok
[05:13] <nightdemon666> sftp is a subsystem of ssh, so ssh or sftp protocols access the same system. they just have different functions.
[05:14] <luck> nightdemon666: ok
[05:14] <luck> nightdemon666:  and then what is next?? Master
[05:14] <nightdemon666> lol
[05:15] <luck> nightdemon666: ping is not stop..how to stop??
[05:15] <hxcjonnysniper> hi my ubuntu 12.04 freezes  then starts to lag everytime i log on. but for like the first 15 mins it runs fine. i was curious if i need to upgrade my ram or what. any help?
[05:16] <baumy> nightdemon666: i did apt-get purge --remove nvidia*, reinstalled latest, still same issue, so i dont think thats the problem
[05:16] <zeroday617> Ctrl-C to stop `ping`
[05:16] <nightdemon666> next is to know what file you want to transfer. in this case, from your mac, you would be issuing the "get" commant. you wanna "get" the file and download it to your computer. so you need to type get path/to/file(on the server) /path/to/where/you/want/it/to/be/downloaded/to (on the mac)
[05:16] <alhadi> hi
[05:17] <Fanfy> I was wondering if anyone knew why I can't  use any other torrent program other than transmission when I have two other ones downloaded and why ransmission wont download anything i want
[05:17] <hxcjonnysniper> how do i view how much ram i have in the terminal?
[05:17] <luck> nightdemon666: ok
[05:18] <nightdemon666> baumy, but you are running two different chipsets. so this means that the nvidia drivers are going ot choose one of those cards... im thinking you would have to have the same GPU's to do what you want it o do. ive had similar experience with two different nvidia chipsets, and sure enough, nvidia drivers had problems with that.
[05:18] <baumy> nightdemon666: they are both covered by the same driver, and it works in windows =/
[05:18] <hxcjonnysniper> fanfy you should be able what about ktorrent or vuze?
[05:18] <luck> nightdemon666:  it said Sorry, command-not-found has crashed!
[05:19] <luck> nightdemon666: when i try to get a file from this computer to my mac
[05:19] <b2w> is there a terminal for android similar to ubuntu that supports commands and tools in ubuntu?
[05:19] <zeroday617> Fanfy: Do you know what magnet links are? If not you should probably read this: http://lifehacker.com/5875899/what-are-magnet-links-and-how-do-i-use-them-to-download-torrents
[05:19] <Fanfy> I haven't tried them but I have deluge and qbittorent and even when i try to search for them it doesn't even pop up
[05:19] <luck> nightdemon666: i use "get networkDriver" which is on the Desktop in this computer
[05:19] <Fanfy> well i was on piratebay. And before I reinstalled ubuntu it was working...and now it's not
[05:20] <nightdemon666> luc, you have to specify where you are gtting it from,and where you want it to go.
[05:20] <Fanfy> I had to reinstall ubuntu because it was acting weird. Dunno if it was necessary but I did it. And now I can't get qbittorent to open up as my torrent program
[05:20] <luck> nightdemon666: for example??
[05:20] <nightdemon666> thus get /path/to/file/from/server /path/where/downloading/it/to/on/mac/computer
[05:21] <hxcjonnysniper> anyone have 12.04 window dragging lag etc?
[05:21] <nightdemon666> hold up... rb
[05:22] <Fanfy> well i have 12.04
[05:22] <nightdemon666> brb
[05:22] <b2w> is there a terminal for android similar to ubuntu that supports commands and tools in ubuntu?
[05:22] <hxcjonnysniper> b2w i dont belive so
[05:22] <Fanfy> and lemme tell ya it gives me problems...it hates me i swear it. But the lagging thing was happening to me too which is why i thought i had to reinstall the os but
[05:22] <Fanfy> i didn't have to turned out it was lagging and freezing because my computer was apparently over heating
[05:23] <hxcjonnysniper> yeah exactly i reinstalled like 3 times
[05:23] <Fanfy> and now i cant get my torrents to download at all -.- it was working before i reinstalled and now it doesn't
[05:23] <hxcjonnysniper> still lagging
[05:23] <Fanfy> try letting ur computer cool down. Are you using a laptop?
[05:23] <hxcjonnysniper> nah desktop.
[05:23] <Elive_webchat5> my acer one refuses to boot from usb
[05:23] <Fanfy> oh huh i dunno then...
[05:24] <Fanfy> mine was really bad like took forever for home folder to open x.x
[05:24] <Fanfy> now i'm having this torrent problem and it's bugging me
[05:24] <hxcjonnysniper> like after 10 minutes of being on firefox and other programs the screen will like glitch for a second and then everything is slow again.
is there a android terminal that supports tools like zbarimg and espeak?
[05:24] <luck> nightdemon666: oh ok .. do i have to type containously for /where/to/put
[05:24] <Fanfy> i didn't know if i was missing some kind of file or something and i can't figure out why qbittorent isn't opening as one of my options now
[05:25] <hxcjonnysniper> weird dude.
[05:25] <Fanfy> Yeah i've come to the conclusion that ubuntu hates me
[05:25] <hxcjonnysniper> are they seeded torrents?
[05:25] <Fanfy> my internet is weird too
[05:25] <Fanfy> uhm i think so
[05:26] <Fanfy> it just gives me transmission as an option even when i try to search for a program none of my other torrent programs pop up and
[05:26] <hxcjonnysniper> i mean if its a torrent no one is seeding its going to have a hard starting
[05:26] <Fanfy> when i open it with transmission it claims there are no files in the torrent
[05:26] <hxcjonnysniper> really...
[05:26] <Fanfy> it does it with any torrent i download like this one has over 1000 seeders....
[05:26] <Fanfy> yeap
[05:27] <Fanfy> See ubuntu hates me...lol I was on here earlier trying for help with my weird out internet
[05:27] <hxcjonnysniper> and im guessing youve googled it a bunch and whatnot?
[05:28] <Fanfy> Yeah i've tried...i just don't get what a bunch of people are saying and they're all like do this code and what not and i don't want to do them cause i have no idea what theyre talking about and i don't want to screw up my computer again
[05:28] <hxcjonnysniper> try to open one of the others like vuze and open the torrent from there/
[05:28] <Fanfy> I mean it was working perfectly before...and now it doesn't
[05:28] <hxcjonnysniper> before you reinstalled?
[05:29] <dr_willis> some torrent clients have import from other torrent client options i recall
[05:29] <Fanfy> kk i'll see if the software thing has vuze and try it. I mean if I open qbittorent and search in it's search thing it works but i want to find stuff on piratebay click 'download this torrent' and choose qbit
[05:29] <Fanfy> and yeah it worked perfectly before i reinstalled
[05:29] <dr_willis> i dident think piratebay had .torrent downloads any more.. they  were magiclinks or whatever they are called
[05:29] <Fanfy> I tried add link to torrent in qbit but it didn't work
[05:30] <hxcjonnysniper> sometimes we cant have what we want. :(
[05:30] <sam113101> magnet links
[05:30] <Fanfy> well i was able to download stuff from piratebay earlier
[05:30] <Fanfy> through qbit
[05:30] <hxcjonnysniper> right.
[05:30] <Fanfy> and now it refuses to work x.x
[05:30] <hxcjonnysniper> what are you trying to download? albums? movies?
[05:30] <sam113101> please can someone explain to me why certain files get their thumbnail and others don't, in nautilus?
[05:31] <Fanfy> movies
[05:31] <dr_willis> sam113101:  there a file size setting i recall.. large files dont get thumbnailed..
[05:31] <luck> anyone know why i can't use apt-get command in my mac's terminal
[05:31] <sam113101> I set it to 4 GB
[05:31] <Elive_webchat5> how do i install ubuntu from usb pen on acer one?
[05:31] <sam113101> should be enough
[05:31] <hxcjonnysniper> right.
[05:31] <sam113101> so that's not that
[05:31] <dr_willis> luck you mean in Uubntu On a mac pc?
[05:31] <hxcjonnysniper> luck you typing sudo apt-get?
[05:31] <luck> dr_willis: on a mac
[05:31] <Fanfy> like when it asks me 'what program do you want to use' when i click 'download this torrent' it's all like transmission is my only option even when i have qbit and deluge downloaded
[05:31] <nightdemon666> sam11301, yes dr_willis is correct, there is a setting you can change in nautilus that will allow you to thumb nail much larger files :)
[05:31] <luck> hxcjonnysniper:  yes
[05:32] <dr_willis> luck  and the error message was? and what ubuntu are you  using?
[05:32] <sam113101> but the setting is set to the max already
[05:32] <Elive_webchat5> HELO
[05:32] <luck> dr_willis: not on ubuntu
[05:32] <Elive_webchat5> HELLO
[05:32] <nightdemon666> gosh, how bug is the file sam113101
[05:32] <luck> dr_willis: it is in my mac's termial
[05:32] <Elive_webchat5> HELLO
[05:32] <hxcjonnysniper> luck then why are you in this channel?
[05:32] <dr_willis> luck you  mean in OS-X's termiinal?
[05:32] <luck> dr_willis: yes
[05:33] <dr_willis> luck so why do you  think OS-X has apt-get ?
[05:33] <luck> hxcjonnysniper: to ask question that I don't know
[05:33] <Finnatic> Just wanted to say that Maximum PC magazine gives much respect to this forum. You guys all deserve a good round of applause for the help you provide.
[05:33] <hxcjonnysniper> about mac in a linux room. smh.
[05:33] <luck> dr_willis: tell me if i am wrong, mac has terminal same as the one in ubuntu
[05:33] <sam113101> nightdemon666: 400 MB
[05:33] <Finnatic> Yes, it does.
[05:34] <TheSashmo> does anyone know if there its possible to build a ubuntu box with a video card, then remove the video card to make it headless, and then use a external USB video adapter to get a display as needed?  I can prep the ubuntu before hand, but I'm just wondering if anyone has every tried something like that
[05:34] <luck> dr_willis: so i think it should work too right?
[05:34] <dr_willis> luck so? that dosent mean  it has apt-get..
[05:34] <dr_willis> luck totally  wrong.
[05:34] <luck> dr_willis: i don't know
[05:34] <nightdemon666> luck, an example would be get /home/luck/file /Users/luck
[05:34] <dr_willis> luck Os-X is not linux. its BSD based
[05:34] <BroBert> hey i have a suggestion
[05:34] <dr_willis> luck time to hit the OS-X channels
[05:34] <nightdemon666> sam113101, what kind of file is it? jpg. avi?
[05:34] <luck> dr_willis: can you show  me the way?
[05:34] <hxcjonnysniper> lol.
[05:34] <dr_willis> !alia > luck
[05:34] <BroBert> has anybody ever though of making the unity launcher outline the running program icons instead of changing the back color?
[05:35] <dr_willis> !alis > luck
[05:35] <BroBert> like the worksapce viewer?
[05:35] <OerHeks> dr_willis, send him to the mactel pages :-D
[05:35] <BroBert> that would look allot less like shit...
[05:35] <sam113101> nightdemon666: it's an avi, but I get some avi to work
[05:35] <luck> nightdemon666:  so it's like get /desire/file /where/i/want/to/onmac?
[05:35] <BroBert> whose in charge here?
[05:35] <BroBert> luck, take me to your leader
[05:36] <hxcjonnysniper> does a graphics card upgrade upgrade your unity's deliverance?
[05:36] <dr_willis> !brainstorm >  BroBert
[05:36] <nightdemon666> well, thats what i would think, but i wonder if there woul dbe issues with that. luck my apologies, but m not mac savvy yet :(
[05:36] <BroBert> hey i could even try doing this myself
[05:36] <hxcjonnysniper> GL LUCK ALL. im out.
[05:36] <wes> Hello
[05:36] <luck> BroBert: go a head
[05:36] <BroBert> im new to linux, but ive done allot a wxwidgets programmer, see enigma-dev.org
[05:37] <IdleOne> !language | BroBert
[05:37] <BroBert> im the leader of the new IDE project in wxWidgets, so I might be able to help implement the effect to unity dash
[05:37] <BroBert> ohhh im sorry for bad language
[05:37] <wes> First-time Xubuntu desktop convert here.
[05:37] <BroBert> wes, u wont regret it
[05:37] <dr_willis> Unity is going to  be moveing to qt/qml from what ive been reading..
[05:37] <wes> I LOVE it so far.
[05:37] <BroBert> rlly?
[05:37] <BroBert> hmmm
[05:37] <wes> Yup.
[05:37] <BroBert> thats interesting
[05:38] <dr_willis> front page items on omgubuntu and webupd8
[05:38] <sam113101> because of ubuntu phone, no?
[05:38] <dr_willis> was it qml? im not even sure what qml is. :) i just skimmed the artical.
[05:39] <BroBert> dr_willis im sorry
[05:39] <BroBert> i actually know what your talkin about
[05:39] <BroBert> its all over tech forums about hte GUI rewrite
[05:39] <BroBert> i did not know that that entailed qml however
[05:39] <BroBert> dr_willis QT is C++ but has cross platform hardware accellerated rendering
[05:39] <BroBert> i know cause i was originally considering it for my ide
[05:40] <sam113101> why is the dash so slow
[05:41] <sam113101> takes 3 seconds to open
[05:41] <BroBert> sam113101, perhaps ur on the wrong arhcitecture?
[05:41] <nightdemon666> sam113101, i bet your file just failed to load the thumbnail properly. when this happens, the unloaded information goes into a directory at ~/.thumbnails. from there you may see failed and normal. remove all the failed ones out of the diredctory or delete the failed thumbnails directory completely. it should repopulate when another failed thumbnail caches.
[05:41] <Fanfy> awesome vuze isn't working either
[05:41] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/unity-next-project-announced      mentions qml
[05:41] <BroBert> fuck
[05:41] <nightdemon666> brobert gunna get booted...
[05:41] <BroBert> sorry my bad
[05:42] <BroBert> but i knew i shoulda stuck with QT
[05:42] <sam113101> BroBert: what?
[05:42] <BroBert> sam113101, are you on the wrong architecture maybe?
[05:42] <sam113101> what do you mean architecture
[05:42] <BroBert> x32bit on an x64 platform runs slow as hell for my laptop
[05:42] <sam113101> no it's 64 bits on 64 bits
[05:43] <BroBert> wierd
[05:43] <dr_willis> still not sure what QML is  - artical dosent really  say. ;) guessing its qt's xml  or somthing.
[05:43] <Elive_webchat5> how do i install ubuntu from usb pen on acer one?ca<n i use x64
[05:43] <nightdemon666> may not be weird if his driver/chipset are not happy...
[05:43] <BroBert> dr_willis, QT tho i dnt like
[05:43] <BroBert> because it was originally open source
[05:43] <BroBert> or commercial or something
[05:43] <dr_willis> Elive_webchat5:  make a live usb.. boot it install it..
[05:43] <BroBert> but anyway
[05:43] <BroBert> now u can just use it
[05:43] <BroBert> its not like really open source
[05:43] <dr_willis> BroBert:  that was like  decades ago..
[05:43] <BroBert> rlly?
[05:44] <BroBert> hmmm
[05:44] <dr_willis> yes.. 10+ yrs ago i recall
[05:44] <Fanfy> So no one else here knows why my torrent thing won't reconize any of my torrent programs?
[05:44] <BroBert> i might have to reconsider doing my IDE in QT then
[05:44] <AlexandreMBM> multiarch strategy debian and ubuntu are commons?
[05:44] <sam113101> no not that long
[05:44] <BroBert> dr_willis, does QT go well on Mac?
[05:44] <dr_willis> I dont use macs. no  idea
[05:44] <Elive_webchat5> dr_willis:  is a big help
[05:44] <nightdemon666> fanfy... i se you are having issues with your bittorrent client, could you please explain in detail what exactly is going wrong?
[05:45] <Elive_webchat5> dr_willis  is a big help
[05:45] <soembody> hey i am running ubuntu 12.04. i installed nvidia ppa x.swat. when i oopen nvdia xorg it says not installed nvidia x drivers . any help??
[05:45] <sam113101> Elive_webchat5: maybe you can tell us what's the problem exactly?
[05:45] <dr_willis> Elive_webchat5:  the install page at ubuntu.com pretty much walks you throug this.
[05:45] <Elive_webchat5> no linux is booting
[05:46] <Elive_webchat5> i tryed several already
[05:46] <sam113101> so what's the problem
[05:46] <dr_willis> and  how did youmake the usb? and what are they doing  exacctly....
[05:46] <Fanfy> Okay so when I go to piratebay I click on 'download this torrent' and the only option it gives me is transmission (which won't download anything keeps saying any torrent I choose has no files or whatever) and I have vuze, qbittorent and deluge all downloaded and when i click choose a different application and search none show up.
[05:46] <luck> dr_willis: if i want ssh.. what i have to type ?
[05:46] <Elive_webchat5> tryed yumy uui and unetbotin
[05:46] <dr_willis> luck you install the openssh server. Im not sure what the exact package name is.
[05:47] <sam113101> Elive_webchat5: are you on windows?
[05:47] <dr_willis> !info openssh-server
[05:47] <Elive_webchat5> yes
[05:47] <luck> dr_willis: in general ...
[05:47] <sam113101> Elive_webchat5: use win32 disk imager, it's the best one out there
[05:47] <dr_willis> luck youinstall a ssh server if you  want the ssh service
[05:48] <luck> dr_willis:  apt-get what i have to type.. for sever
[05:48] <soembody> problem with nvidia drivers. I am running ubuntu 12.04 lts. any help?.
[05:48] <dr_willis> luck yes apt-get basics.. sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:48] <dr_willis> luck i thought you were on OS-X
[05:49] <Fanfy> Ugggh I'm guessing no one knows why my ubuntu is dumb huh? x.x
[05:49] <nightdemon666> can he not transfer files via sftp in mac osx dr_willis???
[05:49] <luck> nope
[05:49] <dr_willis> I havent used OS-X since the PPC days. no idea what features it has any  more
[05:49] <luck> now i am using ubuntu
[05:49] <nightdemon666> no, fanfy, unfortunately not
[05:49] <sam113101> Fanfy: can't you type the naem of the program?
[05:49] <Mekaari> I have an answer but it's probably not going to help you
[05:49] <luck> but i have mac
[05:50] <BroBert> dr_willis, how long will it be before this new ubuntu GUI is finished and in a release?
[05:50] <Fanfy> Well yeah I search type in the name nothing pops up as if the programs don't exist and they're clearly downloaded
[05:50] <dr_willis> BroBert:  dates ive seen place it next year
[05:50] <BroBert> dr_willis, as in 2014 or do you mean Q3-Q4 2013?
[05:50] <dr_willis> nextyear would ne 2014
[05:51] <BroBert> ok well anyway thanks, youve given me allot to think about, and i posted my suggestion
[05:51] <dr_willis> and i doubt if anyone truely knows the  timeframe
[05:51] <BroBert> so im go now
[05:51] <soembody> dr_willis: can you help nvidia drivers problem? I am running ubuntu 12.04
[05:51] <sam113101> I have no .thumbnails folder
[05:51] <dr_willis> soembody:  state the problem to the channel and see.  i rarely have nvidia issues. so  dont deal with them much
[05:51] <Fanfy> I mean everything works in qbit i can search for them and download them but its so much easier if I go through piratebay or something. It's annoying to use the search through qbit
[05:51] <AlexandreMBM> http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch Ubuntu applies?
[05:52] <dr_willis> AlexandreMBM:  as far as i know  the ubuntu  install cd/dvds are not multiarch.. theres 32bit and 64bit versions
[05:52] <soembody> I today installed ubuntu nvidia ppa . when i open xorg it says "you do not have nvdiax drivers installed"
[05:53] <dr_willis> soembody:  you  added what ppa exactly? the xswat ppa?
[05:53] <soembody> yes xswat ppa.
[05:54] <dr_willis> andwhy did you decide to  use the  xswat ppa?
[05:54] <AlexandreMBM> Ubuntu have a multiarch documentation?
[05:55] <soembody> so i can latest update for my nvidia card.
[05:56] <bcbc2> AlexandreMBM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[05:56] <dr_willis> soembody:  so the  drivers from the repos were workng? and the xswat drivers dont work?
[05:56] <soembody> yep.
[05:57] <Flywater> hi,everyone.would ubuntu use rolling-update by default after 13.04 be published?
[05:57] <dr_willis> soembody:  so.. the solution seems obvious. ;)
[05:57] <dr_willis> Flywater:  checkthe blog sites.. its being discussed
[05:57] <AlexandreMBM> "Multi-arch is a new way of handling this developed by Debian"
[05:58] <soembody> dr_willis: so r u suggesting me to stick with the repo version ??
[05:58] <SilentDis> Flywater: from my understanding, the rolling updates may be a little while off yet.there's a desire to get it going for 13.04, though.
[05:58] <dr_willis> soembody:  yes.
[05:58] <bcbc2> Flywater: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1228
[05:59] <__vincent> hmm
[05:59] <Flywater> i think ubuntu should publish two version,one is LtS and the other one is rolling-update.
[05:59] <dr_willis> bbl.. gotta work  at my  real job...
[05:59] <Rokkross> Hi __vincent
[05:59] <__vincent> i have copied some files from windows hard drive with foreign language character file names
[05:59] <soembody> dr_willis: k. one more thing my ubuntu frequently crashes when playing online videos.
[05:59] <__vincent> and they are showing up as ? question marks
[05:59] <__vincent> and acting as such
[05:59] <__vincent> from commandline
[05:59] <Rokkross> Right. Ubuntu has full UTF-8 support by default.
[06:00] <Rokkross> However, some character encodings have weird errors on windows.
[06:00] <man>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:00] <michaelshort> Hi everyone, i have just tried to install Ubuntu but after i select a language the screen goes blank.  what am I doing wrong?
[06:00] <Rokkross> I've had the same problem with some cyrillic characters of a couple of albums I have by Ukrainian bands.
[06:00] <Rokkross> You're probably better off just renaming them yourself. I think I've used tools that help before but...I'm not sure what they are.
[06:01] <bcbc2> michaelshort: what graphics card?
[06:01] <Flywater> michaelshort: which language did you selecte?
[06:01] <Rokkross> Can you type the characters on the keyboard __vincent? I wouldn't recommend putting non-ASCII characters in filenames if you can't type them.
[06:01] <soembody> dr_willis: k. one more thing my ubuntu frequently crashes when playing online videos. do u have any clue??
[06:01] <michaelshort> it's just a laptop with a built in graphics card,  i chose english
[06:02] <michaelshort> not sure exactly what graphics card it has
[06:02] <Flywater> michaelshort: english is default
[06:02] <soembody> my ubuntu frquently crashes when playing online videos. I am runninh ubuntu 12.04 lts.
[06:02] <michaelshort> when i put the disk in and restarted the PC it brought up a screen asking what language i wanted,
[06:04] <Flywater> michaelshort: sorry, i install ubuntu by USB
[06:04] <michaelshort> the process wouldn't be very different would it?
[06:05] <Flywater> michaelshort: it should be boot in a live-CD,did you press any key during its booting?
[06:06] <michaelshort> no, i just booted it and it brought up a purple screen with the logo, then I pressed enter and it asked for the langauge
[06:06] <Flywater> michaelshort:for example,it display a keyboard icon on the bottom of screen
[06:07] <michaelshort> yes it did
[06:07] <soembody> my ubuntu frquently crashes when playing online videos. I am runninh ubuntu 12.04 lts.
[06:07] <Flywater> michaelshort: don't press any key and it will be boot in a Live-CD
[06:08] <c2tarun> soembody, have you tried using some other browser?
[06:08] <bcbc2> michaelshort: maybe it's a bad burn.
[06:08] <Flywater> michaelshort: don't press any key
[06:08] <michaelshort> if i don't press any key it just hangs on that screen until i do press one
[06:08] <soembody> c2tarun:yep
[06:09] <oldude67> michaelshort, hit enter
[06:09] <c2tarun> what flash version are you using? Are you able to recover from the crash or you have to reboot?
[06:09] <__vincent> Rokkross: i am using cyrillic characters
[06:09] <michaelshort> if i hit enter it does what i described before
[06:09] <spacestationspaz> anyone care to answer an nfs4 question
[06:09] <__vincent> but since i copied them to linux hard drive
[06:09] <__vincent> their file names were replaced with ?'s
yep
[06:10] <__vincent> i think there is not trace of original characters on this hard drive
[06:10] <__vincent> interesting that it would copy them in such a way
lates flash version. the crash leads to the login screen.
[06:10] <Flywater> well, it should be auto boot in a Live-CD,if you don't press any key
[06:11] <c2tarun> soembody, crash leads to login screen O_O you whole desktop is crashing and not just browser.
[06:11] <Flywater> michaelshort:maybe it's one bad burn
[06:11] <c2tarun> soembody, you using ubuntu 2D or 3D?
[06:11] <michaelshort> i tried two burns both have this result
yes u got it . i think 3d. what is the diff?.
[06:12] <michaelshort> the live thing worked but the screen went blank again
[06:12] <bcbc2> michaelshort: did you check the md5sum of the ISO before burning?
[06:12] <Flywater> michaelshort:if you press enter or space it will display language selection indeed
[06:12] <michaelshort> whats that?
[06:12] <bcbc2> !md5sum | michaelshort
[06:12] <c2tarun> soembody, 3D is little more resource hungry and little heavy will lots of special effects and feature, can you please try to switch to ubuntu 2D and start  playing online videos. This will rule out few doubts.
 i have ubuntu fallback mode installed. still the problem persists.
[06:14] <c2tarun> soembody, ohh... can you please share the /var/log/syslog file and last time of crash.
 sry to be  naive. how exactly 2 retreive that file.
[06:15] <michaelshort> ok i did that, what do i do with the checksum?
[06:16] <c2tarun> soembody, well I'll prefer install pastebinit by  "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then type in command prompt, cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit and then you'll get a link, please share that link.
[06:16] <bcbc2> michaelshort: you did what?
[06:16] <michaelshort> checked the md5sum
[06:16] <c2tarun> soembody, or you can, open the file by gedit /var/log/syslog, copy the contents and paste it in pastebin and share the link.
[06:17] <bcbc2> michaelshort: right that's what you do with it. get it, compare it to the published md5sum - make sure it's the same
 doing it.
 here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598036/
[06:23] <c2tarun> soembody, latest time of crash?
 yday around 6 or 8.
[06:25] <c2tarun> soembody, ok, I am looking, you also take a look at the page and try to find where is the crash time and what do you see there. Also share the line if you find it.
 k
[06:26] <AcidRain> ubuntu 12.04. where is the trash bin? and how do i get it on the desktop. or somewhere visible so i can easily find it again?
[06:26] <ports-> lightning.net
[06:27] <boldfilter> AcidRain Your not allowed to do that
[06:27] <AcidRain> boldfilter, thats just another corporate setback of ubuntu turning into windows?
[06:28] <plutazion> o.0 oh no!!
[06:28] <boldfilter> AcidRain Dont say that, they will hear you
[06:28] <IdleOne> !trash
[06:28] <IdleOne> !behelpful > boldfilter
[06:29] <boldfilter> Oh knoes, they got me
[06:29] <AcidRain> boldfilter, thanks for all your help. im downgrading to 11.04 now
[06:29] <boldfilter> no prob
[06:29] <plutazion> why acid?
[06:29] <plutazion> just got back into ubuntu and it's 12...things i don't like...
[06:29] <spacestationspaz> speaking of selling out, just heard ubuntu touch is running on CM10.1
[06:30] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:30] <AcidRain> plutazion, i fell lkike im restricted
[06:30] <Tex_Nick> AcidRain : have a look at this ... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hhow-to-display-computerhomenetworktrash-and-mounted-volumes-icons-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-desktop.html
[06:31] <AcidRain> plutazion, i felt like there was a time in ubuntu's life (11.04+ to 12.04+) that they started heading in the wrong direction
[06:31] <plutazion> acid yea same here...even when i read into the things i want...it's got issues or isn't supported =c
[06:31] <boldfilter> IdleOne youre why I use fedora
[06:31] <spacestationspaz> well ubottu I tried to ask a question, nobody wanted to help
[06:31] <IdleOne> boldfilter: Good for you, but while you are in this channel you need to be helpful and follow the rules
[06:32] <AcidRain> boldfilter, i would like to ask some more help of you. what do you believe of what ubuntu has become today? does your opinions match that of plutazion and i?
[06:32] <boldfilter> Disgusted
[06:32] <plutazion> i'm in ot if you wanna chat more, i'd like to know what is restriciting in 12 =/
[06:32] <spacestationspaz> plutazion, early adopters don't realize how much power they have when they succumb to popular demand. If you build it...
[06:32] <IdleOne> This channel is not for discussing your personal opinions.
[06:32] <AcidRain> plutazion, i wouldnt say there are any restrictions at all. it just became difficult to make things happen. i feel as if i have to google everything i want to do now. example: finding the damn trashcan
[06:33] <AcidRain> IdleOne, i see nothing wrong with discussing personal opinions while there are no questions being asked?
[06:33] <l057c0d3r> its in the file broser
[06:33] <plutazion> lol getting used to the file system has always been an issue...4 years in ubuntu and i still forget and get lost, and changeing it up...makes it worse haha
[06:33] <spacestationspaz> I asked about NFS
[06:34] <IdleOne> AcidRain: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel, Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[06:34] <plutazion> ^^
[06:34] <boldfilter> Dont talk about how unity sucks or anything like that
[06:34] <AcidRain> perhaps i would like to discuss the opinions of the supported DE?
[06:34] <spacestationspaz> NFS?
[06:34] <spacestationspaz> anyone?
[06:34] <spacestationspaz> i need help
[06:35] <IdleOne> AcidRain: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <spacestationspaz> NFS
[06:36] <spacestationspaz> NFS
[06:36] <sam113101> what's mir?
[06:36] <spacestationspaz> a spacestation
[06:36] <IdleOne> !mir | sam113101
[06:37] <sam113101> what about wayland?
[06:37] <IdleOne> sam113101: not supported here.
[06:38] <l057c0d3r> IdleOne, i would love to join in discissions in the off-topic channel.. however for some reason im banned from that channel..  you check logs if you like.. i am here a lot helping people out..  but i am unable to join the off-topic channel.. and ubuntu-chat is invite only sigh.....
[06:38] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: join #ubuntu-ops and we can check why you are unable to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <spacestationspaz> soooo, nobody wants to help with nfs?
[06:40] <KI4RO> spacestationspaz, Ask a question
[06:41] <spacestationspaz> well, if anyone has experience with nfs4, I'd like to hear their opinion
[06:41] <spacestationspaz> on the best way to setup a share for two machines on the same home network
[06:41] <plutazion> lol
[06:43] <plutazion> How do i setup two wifi AP's in 12?  i'm not even sure if the blitzz netwave drivers or compatable are installed?
 did any clue?. I am unable anything. everthing looks greek and latin to me.
[06:45] <AcidRain> plutazion, what do you mean?
[06:45] <AcidRain> plutazion, setting up an AP shouldnt have anything to do with your actual system
[06:45] <gharz> hi, guys... i wonder if somebody here has successfully installed ubuntu on a pre-installed win8 machine.... i need help
[06:46] <AcidRain> gharz, my system came with win8. i never turned it on. i had a ubuntu 12 disk rdy for it
[06:46] <spacestationspaz> gharz, i don't mean to be a tech snob, but does google say people have had success with your specific model?
[06:46] <plutazion> haha it does, previous versions all i had to do was click on the other AP, i'm thinking the drivers aren't installed or i have to do something more for 12
[06:47] <plutazion> and i agree, thee is some conformity with ubuntu, as if it's trying to be more like windows...ew
[06:47] <RiXtEr> !gdm
[06:47] <plutazion> Like making people buy software...it should be donation supported
[06:47] <spacestationspaz> so people want to yell at others for off topic discussion, saying this forum is for questions, but no one wants to answer my question?
[06:48] <AcidRain> plutazion, thats whats happening. our beloved OS is going down
[06:48] <plutazion> you haven't asked one...that last sentence is the only question i've seen from you
[06:48] <l057c0d3r> i am sorry spacestationspaz i would help but i have no experience with nfs
[06:48] <plutazion> ^^ and people need to be here to help you xD
[06:48] <spacestationspaz> scroll up plut
[06:49] <spacestationspaz> I would be happy with "i don't know" as an answer
[06:49] <spacestationspaz> at least I would know then to look elsewhere
[06:49] <plutazion> But any network HD or any files in the shared folder...should be shared right?
[06:49] <gharz> AcidRain: really? it worked?
[06:49] <plutazion> windows pc's don't see the ext format though
[06:49] <spacestationspaz> nope, plut its command line
[06:49] <spacestationspaz> and both my machines are ubuntu
[06:50] <gharz> spacestationspaz: just trying my luck if somebody has successfuly instaled ubuntu on a win8 machine
[06:50] <plutazion> haha
[06:50] <spacestationspaz> gharz, it can be done but I hear its touch and go at this point and there are a lot of machine specific directions
[06:51] <bcbc2> !uefi | gharz
[06:51] <Tex_Nick> spacestationspaz:  for NFS you might try asking in #ubuntu-server ... not sure how active that challel is now though
[06:51] <gharz> spacestationspaz: ooohhh... guess i have to wait again for a couple of months
[06:51] <spacestationspaz> gharz,
[06:51] <Tex_Nick> *channel
[06:51] <spacestationspaz> don't give up
[06:51] <gharz> bcbc2: thanks... i'll check that out
[06:51] <gharz> spacestationspaz: thanks!
[06:52] <spacestationspaz> it can be done
[06:52] <plutazion> yea specifying it's server/command line in the question may interest those users if they are around as well
[06:52] <spacestationspaz> hmmm, I assumed most people who can answer questions about linux are saavy with terminal
[06:53] <spacestationspaz> texnick I have tried a few channels
[06:53] <spacestationspaz> I guess it is technically a server question
[06:54] <Tex_Nick> spacestationspaz:  have you looked at this ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[06:54] <spacestationspaz> tex, I have that tab open right now
[06:54] <spacestationspaz> it didn't work, not to mention it conflicts with several other guides
[06:55] <spacestationspaz> and the guides for nfs in general are not well written imo
[06:56] <spacestationspaz> my first step is always a strenuous google search
[06:57] <spacestationspaz> I think I'll just have to nuke it and start over
[06:57] <danon> you can use ubuntu server as a file server right?
[06:58] <spacestationspaz> danon, are you asking in general or in response to my question?
[06:58] <danon> in general
[06:59] <danon> because i tryed freenas and i was never able to connect to the samba shares
[06:59] <spacestationspaz> yes, there are a few ways
[06:59] <pobri19_> hi guys. so i'm having major problems with grub trying to boot into ubuntu on my dualboot install... i'm in the livecd atm. i've tried reinstalling grub with no success... i'm getting this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143667/boot-error-no-such-device-grub-rescue -- i've checked blkid and the UID it says on the error is the same as the one with the linux install
[06:59] <spacestationspaz> danon, i'm trying to do something similar with NFS
[06:59] <danon> my desktop os is mint 14
[06:59] <spacestationspaz> I've read NFS is the better option because SAMBA is meant to conform to windows protocols
[07:00] <pobri19_> and i can't get into my windows install either obviously, because now everything is broken :'(
[07:01] <spacestationspaz> pobril19, is this a new machine?
[07:01] <pobri19_> nah i've had it for a while spacestationspaz
[07:01] <pobri19_> i originally had 10.10 installed, and i just installed 12.10 over the top
[07:01] <pobri19_> and now this is happening
[07:01] <pobri19_> grub was working fine with 10.10 and would show 10.10 and windows in the menu
[07:02] <spacestationspaz> so you chose to install 12.10 alongside 10.10 in the install menu or replace?
[07:02] <pobri19_> spacestationspaz: replace
[07:03] <spacestationspaz> what kind of important data do you risk losing?
[07:03] <pobri19_> spacestationspaz: years of data :(
[07:03] <spacestationspaz> lappy or desk
[07:03] <spacestationspaz> ?
[07:03] <pobri19_> desktop
[07:03] <spacestationspaz> do you have your windows product key?
[07:04] <pobri19_> nope, i don't even have a windows installer disc
[07:04] <spacestationspaz> my experience when ubuntu gets borked like this (and it does, often) is to start over
[07:04] <spacestationspaz> windows installer disks are easy to come by
[07:04] <spacestationspaz> what version of windows?
[07:05] <pobri19_> 7
[07:05] <spacestationspaz> ok, I think your best hope is to have windows 7 recover its own boot menu and then go back and reinstall ubuntu
[07:06] <sacramento_> #ubuntu-sc-br
[07:06] <bcbc2> pobri19_: you can easily get Windows booting from a live CD. But how are you installing grub? from the 12.10 live CD or via chroot?
[07:06] <plutazion> reinstalling grub did not help?
[07:07] <plutazion> http://download.driverguide.com/driver/Netwave+Point+PC/Blitzz+Technology/d1116187.html< this is the windows driver for my wifi ap...i need a driver for ubuntu 12 and some help installing it?
[07:08] <spacestationspaz> is your wireless card not supported in ubuntu?
[07:08] <plutazion> i'm not sure?
[07:09] <plutazion> it must not be, everything usually installs or gets updates...
[07:09] <spacestationspaz> are you running 12.10 or 12.04
[07:09] <boldfilter> IdleOne <3
[07:09] <mindflash> http://blog.droidzone.in/2012/11/23/reinstall-a-corrupt-grub2/
[07:09] <pobri19_> bcbc2: from the live CD
[07:09] <plutazion> 12 10 i believe wubuntu
[07:09] <omer_can> hiii,,
[07:09] <spacestationspaz> I think you guys are telling him to put in too much work trying to save a fresh install
[07:10] <selena2013> wubuntu? thats a new distro ?
[07:10] <omer_can> ı'm türkiye
[07:10] <omer_can> how are you
[07:10] <spacestationspaz> he should use the live cd and copy the files he needs and start over
[07:10] <pobri19_> i don't have a windows disk..
[07:10] <bcbc2> pobri19_: can you pastebin the commands and output?
[07:10] <spacestationspaz> take off and nuke the whole site from orbit
[07:10] <spacestationspaz> its the only way to be sure
[07:10] <selena2013> lol
[07:10] <spacestationspaz> pobril, htats not a problem
[07:11] <plutazion> nope it's 12.04
[07:11] <bcbc2> pobri19_: you don't need a windows disk to install a windows style bootloader if you just want to get windows booting. but it's better to figure out why grub isn't working
[07:11] <spacestationspaz> unity?
[07:11] <spacestationspaz> nuke and reboot man
[07:11] <bcbc2> pobri19_: maybe the results of the bootinfoscript as well
[07:11] <pobri19_> bcbc2: yeah, i feel like it'd just happen again anyway... i'll get a paste for you one min
[07:11] <spacestationspaz> plutazion what desktop environment?
[07:11] <selena2013> nuke ???
[07:12] <spacestationspaz> I just mean don't try to save a borked install
[07:12] <quick-> How can i format a write proteced drive in ubuntu ?
[07:12] <plutazion> Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) ??? is my graphics?
[07:12] <spacestationspaz> I spent all night on 2 different occasions trying to save an install that was unrepairable due to amd drivers conflicting with 12.10
[07:12] <plutazion> yes i think it is unity
[07:12] <spacestationspaz> i mean unity?
[07:13] <selena2013> i have amd 12.10
[07:13] <spacestationspaz> ok go into the unity search and enter 'additional drivers'
[07:13] <plutazion> when i update 1204 it uses gnome and unity peices
[07:13] <spacestationspaz> selena, its a machine specific problem
[07:13] <selena2013> a ok
[07:13] <spacestationspaz> specific cards
[07:14] <spacestationspaz> and like the microphone/hdmi out problems in 12.04
[07:14] <spacestationspaz> ubuntu is great but I've wasted enough time to know that some times it can't be fixed
[07:14] <plutazion> my quadro cards and wifi card are not listed in addy drivers
[07:15] <plutazion> in linux it can be created/fixed or broken just as easily xD
[07:15] <spacestationspaz> um, the cards shouldn't be listed, just the driver module
[07:15] <spacestationspaz> do they show up in lspci?
[07:16] <spacestationspaz> what modules are listed in additional drivers?
[07:17] <plutazion> both the "atmel" and nvidia cards are detected using lspci and lsusb
[07:17] <spacestationspaz> selena, I think amd 12.10 is the version of the amd driver, I'm taking about ubuntu 12.10
[07:17] <spacestationspaz> what modules are listed in additional drivers?
[07:17] <plutazion> The "atmel" is the blitz modual
[07:17] <plutazion> none
[07:18] <plutazion> i used wubi installer if that matters
[07:18] <spacestationspaz> so you have fancy expensive video cards and you're using nouveau?
[07:19] <plutazion> no, the drivers aren't installed yet that i can tell
[07:19] <spacestationspaz> the stock driver? if you have regular cards the performance isn't that different but on fancy cards nouveau is shiite
[07:19] <plutazion> it's using some compatable thing
[07:19] <plutazion> Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
[07:19] <spacestationspaz> nouveau is the standard install
[07:20] <plutazion> i've had better gameing and rendering in ubuntu over windows...so... as long as it was supported
[07:20] <plutazion> these are old pci quadros xD 500/600
[07:20] <spacestationspaz> that gallium is just the rendering engine
[07:20] <spacestationspaz> oh, you're probably ok
[07:21] <plutazion> ok good to know
[07:21] <spacestationspaz> are the network cards old too?
[07:21] <plutazion> oh yes
[07:21] <spacestationspaz> ok, network card support is pretty broad now
[07:21] <spacestationspaz> but for older cards there are those that pretty much just didn't work with ubuntu, I think even with a wrapper
[07:22] <spacestationspaz> so if you have an issue I suspedct that is what you are dealing with
[07:22] <spacestationspaz> so you are dual booting windows?
[07:23] <spacestationspaz> even in a dual boot I still recommend the regular installer
[07:25] <spacestationspaz> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-310.40-driver.html
[07:25] <spacestationspaz> check if your card is in that list
[07:25] <spacestationspaz> plutazion
[07:26] <plutazion> you can't install from the provider, it must be installed using the software center or something..i have the deb drivers but don't know how to install it and remember it always caused issues...none of the drivers listed in the software center are downloadable...
[07:27] <plutazion> Atmel Corp. at76c503a 802.11b Adapter help me find and install this wifi AP?
[07:29] <pobri19_> bcbc2: http://pastebin.com/Wggwasur
[07:30] <pobri19_> bcbc2: blkid takes like 30 mins to run for some reason so i couldnt get bootinfoscript to work
[07:30] <spacestationspaz> nobody listens to spaz
[07:32] <bcbc2> pobri19_: that's not good... 30 min!
[07:32] <pobri19_> bcbc2: tell me about it
[07:33] <forumcash> when i use top command is there anyway to ignore root?
[07:34] <bcbc2> pobri19_: so there may be some other problem there... but you might as well try installing grub with chroot: http://askubuntu.com/a/88432/14916
[07:34] <forumcash> hi
[07:34] <bcbc2> pobri19_: you could try to manually boot from the grub rescue prompt as well
[07:34] <spacestationspaz> pobril19, just to ask one more time, and then I'll let you guys continue chasing your goose, if you can save your data what is the real problem with clean installs?
[07:34] <forumcash> when i use top cammand is there anyway to ignore root?
[07:35] <spacestationspaz> cash, I'm not sure what you mean
[07:35] <spear> Hi all. I'm planning on installing Ubuntu on my mac, but the folks in #apple say: "No linux can control Apple's custom power control chip. You leave the Core-class CPU over-volted and at a much higher risk of failure." Can anyone confirm or deny this?
[07:35] <spear> I need a second opinion
[07:35] <pobri19_> spacestationspaz: the problem is this sort of thing happens regardless of whether i fresh install, because that's what i did anyway... so it'll more than likely do the exact same thing
[07:35] <spacestationspaz> Linus torvalds is running linux on a macbook air
[07:35] <pobri19_> bcbc2: checking link out now thanks
[07:35] <spear> Yes, but that doesn't answer my question
[07:36] <spacestationspaz> not unless you have a hardware difficulty
[07:36] <bcbc2> pobri19_: here's how to boot from grb rescue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052
[07:36] <spear> He's rich enough to afford a new Macbook Air if he fries his old one
[07:36] <spacestationspaz> I don't think he's rich and even if he is he's not stupid
[07:36] <forumcash> spacestationspaz: i am typing top i shows task manager thing but there are bunch of apps running by root user. i don't want to see it. can i make it invisible or something else
[07:37] <spacestationspaz> oh, you want to know if their is an option for top to show only specific user
[07:37] <forumcash> spacestationspaz: all users but root
[07:37] <no_gravity> Good Morning from Germany! Clicking the "Get Ubuntu 12.10" button on ubuntu.com starts a download of ubuntu 12.04.
[07:39] <bcbc2> no_gravity: just tried it. Downloads 12.10 for me...
[07:39] <rand> me too
[07:40] <spacestationspaz> gravity try changing mirrors
[07:40] <no_gravity> bcbc2, rand: disable javascript and try again.
[07:40] <no_gravity> spacestationspaz: have you tried without javascript?
[07:40] <spacestationspaz> do you have a bittorent client? its usually quicker anyway
[07:40] <no_gravity> spacestationspaz: im downloading 12.10 now. just wanted to inform you of the bug.
[07:41] <pobri19_> bcbc2: trying the chroot thing atm, thanks
[07:41] <spacestationspaz> Oh. Do they take bug reports in this room?
[07:41] <no_gravity> here, using firefox 19.02 without javascript, it downloads ubuntu 12.04.
[07:41] <bcbc2> no_gravity: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+filebug
[07:42] <forumcash> i got it when i type top -i it shows whatever is really wroking
[07:42] <forumcash> thanks guys
[07:42] <spacestationspaz> cash, I was looking up the options for top, among other rthings
[07:42] <spacestationspaz> glad you figured it out
[07:43] <lokesh> how do I know which kernel i am using? is there a simple termnial command?
[07:43] <spacestationspaz> uname -r
[07:43] <lokesh> kernal/kernel *
[07:43] <spacestationspaz> kernel
[07:44] <no_gravity> bcbc2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1152881
[07:44] <lokesh> I need a driver for my Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet
[07:44] <pobri19_> bcbc2: bbs i guess! reboot step lol.
[07:44] <bhavesh> is it possible for my college to disable all downloads on ubuntu? i cannot even use wget command, I keep getting timeout
[07:44] <lokesh> Can I download a driver that is above my current kernel version?
[07:44] <lokesh> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-3.5.0/
[07:47] <ludwig__> why is it that i can double click a python file in a folder on the desktop, and get the suitable dialog for running it in terminal or just run it, but when i put the same folder in my documents folder it only opens in a text editor?
[07:48] <no_gravity> bcbc2: did my bug posting work?
[07:48] <bcbc2> no_gravity: is that bug public? it's not showing up
[07:49] <aeon> hi
[07:49] <spacestationspaz> is it set as executable?
[07:49] <bcbc2> no_gravity: go to the link and check the padlock top right to make sure it's public
[07:49] <aeon> in ubuntu scp how to exclude a directory
[07:49] <aeon> plz help me on this
[07:50] <aeon> in ubuntu scp how to exclude a directory
[07:50] <keepguessing> Hi I just now installed ubuntu 12.04
[07:50] <aeon> in ubuntu scp how to exclude a directory
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> aeon: patience
[07:51] <aeon> plz help
[07:51] <aeon> me
[07:51] <no_gravity> bcbc2: looks like its not public. how do i make it public=
[07:51] <no_gravity> ?
[07:51] <spacestationspaz> you want to install a directory but exclude a subdirectory?
[07:51] <SunStar> when some one looks at their screen and knows what your talking about they will help
[07:52] <bcbc2> no_gravity: around that padlock, top right, there is a round yellow circle with a pen in it. Click that and change it to public
[07:52] <keepguessing> I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade. i found the updates were very slow hence used the ubuntu software center and chose a better mirror. now i get a lot of dependency errors. Is this a known issue? I have returned back to main server since this is causing issues
[07:52] <no_gravity> bcbc2: ok. can you see it now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1152881
[07:53] <keepguessing> Any other solution that you can think of?
[07:53] <bcbc2> no_gravity: looks like ubottu can now :)
[07:53] <aeon> in ubuntu scp how to exclude a directory
[07:53] <no_gravity> bcbc2: ok.
[07:54] <spacestationspaz> aeon scroll up
[07:54] <bcbc2> no_gravity: maybe add the address to make it clear that it's the Get 12.10 button on the main download page
[07:54] <pobri19> bcbc2: hey can you please relink me the grub chroot thing? it didn't work, so now i need to try step 7 :(
[07:54] <bcbc2> pobri19_: so there may be some other problem there... but you might as well try installing grub with chroot: http://askubuntu.com/a/88432/14916
[07:55] <pobri19> bcbc2: ty
[07:55] <keepguessing> hmm si nobody face these errors :)
[07:55] <keepguessing> s/si/so
[07:55] <bcbc2> pobri19: step 7 should be /dev/sdb
[07:55] <spacestationspaz> you get dependency errors and you think its caused by the mirror you chose?
[07:55] <spacestationspaz> that doesn't make sense
[07:55] <pobri19> bcbc2: oh okay, why's that?
[07:55] <aeon> @Spacestationspaz were is the answer
[07:55] <spacestationspaz> did you try changing mirrors again?
[07:56] <spacestationspaz> I didn't answer, I am attempting to clarify your question
[07:56] <bcbc2> pobri19: well your fdisk output shows your main harddrive being /dev/sdb
[07:56] <Tex_Nick> !patience | aeon
[07:56] <keepguessing> spacestationspaz: whenever i change an error i get this issue.
[07:56] <bcbc2> pobri19: for whatever reason it looks like your USB is taking /dev/sda
[07:56] <keepguessing> spacestationspaz: whenever i change an mirror i get this issue.
[07:56] <bazhang> aeon stop repeating every five seconds
[07:56] <no_gravity> bcbc2: ok
[07:57] <aeon> i have already  try it
[07:57] <pobri19> bcbc2: nah that's not my usb, usb was sdf but i didn't include that in the output
[07:57] <aeon> if u know the answer is pz give me
[07:57] <bazhang> aeon, just wait. and be patient
[07:57] <pobri19> bcbc2: so still sdb you think?
[07:57] <bcbc2> pobri19: oh right it's 2TB not 2GB my bad (read it wrong)
[07:58] <spacestationspaz> aeon you want to ssh copy a folder but exclude a subdirectory?
[07:58] <bcbc2> pobri19: it depends which drive your BIOS boots from. Whatever that is you should install grub on
[07:59] <pobri19> okay i'll try sdb and see what happens brb
[07:59] <bcbc2> pobri19: I assumed /dev/sdb (and that's what you selected when you installed as shown in the pastebin)
[07:59] <spacestationspaz> keep guessing, did you try sudo apt-get install -f?
[08:00] <bcbc2> no_gravity: looks good
[08:00] <helmut_> hi
[08:00] <pobri19> bcbc2: update-grub outputted this:
[08:00] <pobri19> Found Windows Recovery Environment (loader) on /dev/sdb1 Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sdc1
[08:01] <bcbc2> pobri19: I would have guessed /dev/sdb2 based on the bootflag. Pity you can't get the bootinfoscript going
[08:03] <bcbc2> no_gravity: I just confirmed that bug
[08:03] <rand> cool
[08:04] <hoanlong> how to open facebook
[08:04] <spacestationspaz> hoanlong what do you mean
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> hoanlong: open a web browser, go to facebook.com
[08:05] <hoanlong> can't open skype
[08:05] <spacestationspaz> who's that trip trapping over my bridge
[08:05] <bonzar> hi
[08:06] <aeon> spacestationspaz@yes
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> hoanlong: whar?
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> what?
[08:10] <spacestationspaz> try setting the directory you want to exclude as read only
[08:11] <spacestationspaz> google says its not officially possible, try rsync
[08:23] <Extreme> Hi, I can combine two text files with 'cat' command. Is there any way to combine all the files in a particular directory into one big text file? (without typing cat file1.txt file2.txt ...)
[08:23] <sam113101> cat *
[08:23] <sam113101> ?
[08:25] <bazhang> Extreme, tab complete them and add the final character
[08:26] <rand> ya, cat *.txt > onebigtextfile.txt
[08:26] <Extreme> rand: yes, that's what I did. thanks
[08:27] <rand> cool
[08:30] <borillion> is there anyway that I can figure out where my vnc connection is bottlenecking if thats whats going on?
[08:30] <borillion> traceroute just shows me one jump
[08:36] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with my wireless network... wlan0 is down, when i try to up it, it says that it is not possible due to RF-kill... when i run rfkill list it has 3 adapters: bluetooth, phy0:wireless lan (hardware-blocked) and acer-wireless:wireless lan (software blocked)... when i try "rfkill unblock all" nothing changes, when i unload and reload "iwlwifi" it says device not ready, in "lshw -class network" it says it is disabled.
[08:36] <greenit> .. can any1 plz help me to get my wireless lan working again? i have no hw-switch for like fn+f2 to bring it back up and i have no network connection, so i can't pastebin something :S
[08:37] <bcbc2> night all
[08:40] <qin> rand:  cat *.txt > onebigtextfile.txt (makes input err, besides > overrides, unlike >> )
[08:42] <rand> what's that qin?
[08:44] <qin> rand:  correct would be: "cat *.txt >> nodottxtinname", just being picky, sorry.
[08:44] <rand> you mean it creates the output file before it globs?
[08:46] <rand> no it doesn't
[08:46] <jman074> (03:36:20 AM) jara: so i was  installing  ubuntu 12. it said it needed to restart comp to finish. i cant tell if it did anything it all looks the same.
[08:46]  * rand says good night
[08:50] <qin> rand: you right, feel bad right now
[08:51] <sam113101> is the dash supposed to be slow?
[08:51] <sam113101> or is it just me
[08:57] <hans-olof> i installed kubuntu on a former windows machine, but in boot meny windows shows up as an alternative, how do i delete that entry? in grub.cfg it says do NOT touch this file?
[09:05] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my backup software déjà dup , it ask me to enter my login keyring, and i do not know what that mean
[09:09] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my backup software déjà dup , it ask me to enter my login keyring, and i do not know what that means
[09:09] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring, and i do not know what that means
[09:10] <sam113101> kgalahassa: it's your password I think
[09:11] <kgalahassa> sam113101, i do it but it do not accept
[09:12] <doomlord> is it possible to get full ARGB transparency in any of the DE's/WMs in ubuntu (similar to the terminal window)
[09:12] <doomlord> eg full ARGB GTK themes, etc..
[09:13] <doomlord> the terminals look awesome
[09:13] <doomlord> thing is transparency on its own without ARGB for opaque text isn't anywhere near as nice
[09:16] <wildc4rd> would anyone have any idea why intel speedstep isn't working under ubuntu?
[09:17] <milen8204> Hello all, I can not write in Cyrillic in wine MS office 2007, I can write in Latin but when I change my keyboard layout to Cyrillic and start pressing peters nothing appears
[09:18] <burtonium> milen: do you have cyrillic fonts?
[09:19] <burtonium> milen8204:  software center -> cyrillic fonts
[09:19] <milen8204> burtonium, ok thanks will try
[09:19] <burtonium> np
[09:20] <steve_fi> milen8204, I googled and found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665485  I would suggest taking a look
[09:21] <milen8204> steve_fi, thanks I should googled it too but I had no idea what to write :)
[09:21] <steve_fi> ah, no problem :)
[09:21] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring, and i do not know what that means
[09:21] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring password, and i do not know what that means
[09:23] <burtonium> kgalahassa: just type in your sudo passwrod
[09:30] <killer> hey ..
[09:30] <krystianm> hi, how do in install curl 7.28 ?
[09:30] <killer> my cheese is detecting the webcam but skype is not detecting it
[09:31] <krystianm> how do I install curl 7.28*
[09:32] <no_gravity> Hello! How can I boot the ubuntu iso from an external hard drive? I tried "dd if=the.iso of=/dev/sdb" but then i cannot boot from the device.
[09:35] <killer> my cheese is detecting the webcam but skype is not detecting it
[09:35] <Hyperbyte> "apt-get autoremove" just removed my -running- kernel.  Am I now screwed, or will the machine keep running happily?
[09:36] <krystianm> Hyperbyte, do u have kernel in /boot ?
[09:37] <gabkdlly> no_gravity, I have never done this before, but you might try using the "Startup Disk Creator", or unetbootin.
[09:38] <gabkdlly> no_gravity, My thinking is that booting from an external hard drive should be similar to booting from a USB storage device.
[09:38] <no_gravity> gabkdlly: i hoped so. but its not booting.
[09:39] <gabkdlly> no_gravity, Oh, well then I am out of my league.  Sorry.
[09:39] <Hyperbyte> krystianm, hmm, yes, actually... maybe it just removed the headers and I saw wrong?
[09:40] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring password, and i do not know what that means
[09:40] <gabkdlly> no_gravity, Did you try unetbootin ?  It sometimes happens to me that certain machines will work with a disk written with unetbootin, even if they will not work with "Startup Disk Creator".
[09:40] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring password, and i do not know what that means, i enter my sudo password, and it do not accept.
[09:40] <Hyperbyte> krystianm, I shouldn't do this kind of stuff so early in the morning. =D
[09:41] <no_gravity> gabkdlly: what is unetbootin?
[09:42] <DylanCl> Hello. When playing a game, I need to use shortcuts on a laptop. Like, the 1,2,3 keys. That wont work tho, I need to press SHIFT+1,2
[09:42] <Andre81_> hi @ all
[09:42] <Andre81_> this is a good day (I hope) ;)
[09:43] <gabkdlly> no_gravity, It is an application to create bootable media.  It works with a wide variety of distributions.  It is available in the Ubuntu repositories:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/unetbootin
[09:44] <Andre81_> I've a question about simple script, I'm new on linux and I want to create a script that retirieve pop email, extract pdf, print automatically pdf and then move this pdf to archive
[09:44] <Andre81_> at the moment I've configured getmail and munpack
[09:45] <Andre81_> from my hand all works great (also lp works well) but now I've to setup a script...
[09:45] <Andre81_> and I'm here to ask help
[09:46] <Tex_Nick> Andre81 : if you don't get an answer here, you might ask in #bash
[09:47] <Andre81_> you are right
[09:47] <Andre81_> thanks
[09:47] <Tex_Nick> :-)
[09:51] <Dreaman> os[Linux 3.8.0-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "raring" 13.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 93.1% free] disk[Total: 926.3GB, 42.6% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[09:51] <Dreaman> :)
[09:54] <stan879nz> hello is a .sh the same as a .bat for windows
[09:55] <bekks> stan879nz: basically yes.
[09:55] <bekks> stan879nz: Besides the fact that file extensions are meaningless.
[09:56] <stan879nz> thanks bekks
[09:56] <suna> hell
[09:56] <luck> hello everyone
[09:56] <suna> hey luck
[09:56] <suna> can you help me
[09:56] <stan879nz> so i take it that i can use a .sh to start more .sh's
[09:57] <bekks> stan879nz: Your shell script doesnt even have to have a file extension, yes.
[09:57] <suna> ive been trying to install steam with wine and winetricks
[09:57] <suna> so i can play skryim
[09:57] <lcabreza> suna: whats the error your getting ?
[09:57] <lcabreza> suna: have you tried installing playonlinux ?
[09:57] <suna> let me get the error
[09:57] <suna> no
[09:57] <luck> i am faceing a problem that everytime after i get update my wifi doesn't work or even it works does not connect to my wifi
[09:57] <suna> i havent but ive read mutiply posts
[09:57] <luck> any one know why?
[09:58] <suna> of people saying  skyrim has to use wine or winetricks
[09:58] <stan879nz> is there a way to put i a timed delay before each command in a .sh
[09:58] <suna> Checksum for /home/nightmare/.cache/winetricks/steam/SteamInstall.msi did not match, retrying download
[09:58] <luck> therefore i have to reboot and press down key when reboot it
[09:58] <bekks> stan879nz: sure.
[09:58] <suna> i think i did most of it right
[09:58] <lcabreza> luck: whats the model of your laptop and wifi?
[09:58] <suna> but thats what i keep getting
[09:58] <suna> when i try to use winetricks to try to download steam
[09:59] <luck> lcabreza: toshiba satellite c855 series , at&t wifi
[09:59] <lcabreza> have you tried ..w/out using winetricks ..
[09:59] <suna> no i have not yet
[09:59] <bekks> !steam | suna
[09:59] <lcabreza> suna: just plain wine SteamInstall.msi
[09:59] <stan879nz> would i just use a the ping command to set the time delay or is there another command for set_timedelay
[09:59] <luck> lcabreza: and also sometime after wake up from sleep, wifi does not connect too
[09:59] <suna> i knew they were doing that
[10:00] <bekks> stan879nz: ping does not set any delay.It pings a network host. For pausing your script, you use "sleep".
[10:00] <suna> no ive been using winetricks i am very new
[10:00] <lcabreza> luck: whats your kernel version ? i used to have that issue on the older kernels..
[10:00] <suna> to linux
[10:00] <suna> but i do know alittle bit
[10:00] <luck> lcabreza: how to cheak kernel version?
[10:00] <lcabreza> luck : uname -a;
[10:00] <stan879nz> right. thanks bekks
[10:00] <bekks> suna: Why dont you follow the official instructions then, as just linked to you?
[10:00] <suna> but i got tired of windows screwing up on me
[10:00] <suna> was that the ones for steam right?
[10:00] <luck> lcabreza: i think it is not about kernel ; because after i get update my wifi is not working anymore
[10:01] <lcabreza> suna: heheh! Windows who ? :)
[10:01] <lcabreza> suna: do this first : wine --version
[10:01] <suna> k
[10:01] <luck> lcabreza: 3.5.0
[10:01] <bekks> !steam > suna
[10:01] <suna> k
[10:01] <suna> yes i saw that when you posted it
[10:01] <luck> lcabreza: 3.5.0-25-generic
[10:02] <suna> but the download time for skyrim
[10:02] <suna> is crazy
[10:02] <bekks> suna: Then just follow it.
[10:02] <suna> so like i guess what im saying ill try it
[10:02] <luck> anyone know about wifi issue? beside lcabreza ??
[10:02] <suna> but i was trying too stay away from it so i wouldnt have to reinstall it again
[10:02] <bekks> luck: About which issue?
[10:02] <suna> but it wouldnt hurt to try it
[10:03] <luck> bekks: Disconnect
[10:03] <bekks> !details | luck
[10:03] <luck> bekks: after getting back from sleeping mode
[10:03] <stan879nz> hey bekks is it called bash scripting? making a .sh start multi things
[10:03] <luck> bekks: after update
[10:03] <bekks> stan879nz: The file extension is meaningless, and yes, thats shell scripting.
[10:04] <lcabreza> luck: how about the powermanagement ? have you tried checking if your using the latest one ..
[10:04] <mykeus> you dont need a mime to execute
[10:04] <suna> how do i find out what version of ubuntu im running?
[10:04] <bekks> suna: Type: lsb_release -a
[10:04] <Rokkross> Actually, perhaps power management settings disable wireless activity when sleeping.
[10:04] <Rokkross> That would make sense.
[10:04] <lcabreza> suna: cat /etc/lsb_release
[10:04] <Rokkross> I'm not sure if they do, but it's worth checking.
[10:05] <suna> ok i just did that
[10:05] <suna> and this is what i got
[10:05] <luck> lcabreza: I have a problem with wifi connecting, I'm running ubuntu version 12.04when i try to wake up from sleeping mode or after i get update wifi is not working
[10:05] <suna> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[10:05] <luck> lcabreza: i haven't check for my power
[10:05] <luck> lcabreza: how to check?
[10:05] <suna> is that the most uptodate version
[10:06] <lcabreza> suna: yes that's right. did you do compile wine or apt-get install ?
[10:06] <lcabreza>  luck: try to go to synaptic package manager and check for pm_manage something..
[10:07] <suna> i used the terminal with apt-get
[10:07] <luck> lcabreza: how to get there?
[10:07] <suna> but ima try the steam one first
[10:07] <suna> before i use the wine for now
[10:08] <suna> if yall are willing to help its only reasonable
[10:08] <suna> if i try something that could might make it alot easyer
[10:08] <bekks> suna: Just follow the link above.
[10:08] <suna> thats what im doing
[10:09] <suna> and if it doesnt work
[10:09] <suna> ill let yal know ok
[10:09] <suna> also what is the ubuntu steam channel?
[10:09] <lcabreza> suna: let us know for whatever errors you get ..we are just here..
[10:09] <suna> lol i like how you said that ica
[10:09] <bekks> suna: There is no ubuntu steam channel. The support channel is here.
[10:09] <lcabreza> suna: #ubuntu-steam
[10:09] <bekks> Oh, there is.
[10:10] <suna> ok thanks i was just going to try that one as well
[10:10] <suna> at least ask
[10:10] <suna> or see if anyone is awake
[10:10] <bekks> suna: Please dont use enter as punctuation sign.
[10:10] <lcabreza> suna: Welcome to Ubuntu ...say Goodbye to Windows ...ehhehh!...
[10:11] <suna> what do you mean as a punctuation sign?
[10:11] <Rokkross> I think using enter as punctuation is quite nice.
[10:11] <Rokkross> Some even say it
[10:11] <Rokkross> s easier
[10:11] <bekks> suna: Dont press enter after every few words please, but instead, write full sentences.
[10:12] <suna> and yes i dont think ima go back to windows when i paid for a brand new 60d hard drive and like 3days later it made it start making clicking noises
[10:12] <Rokkross> Well that sounds like more of a hardware issue...
[10:12] <Rokkross> But yeah, stay away from M$ products.
[10:12] <bekks> suna: Thats not a software, but a hardware issue then. Totally unrelated from Windows, e.g.
[10:12] <suna> could of been but  i could hear the hard drive making those noise
[10:13] <stan879nz> hello if i want a to start a file called server.sh in terminal. location is home/server/test/server.sh. how would i make a script to start it
[10:13] <Rokkross> Maybe your hard drive became sentient and was trying to communicate in some obscure african language.
[10:13] <stan879nz> from desktop
[10:13] <benbro> is there a tool to convert ppt to pdf besides libreoffice?
[10:13] <suna> and it was in the package ether way though ive had nothing but trouble with windows
[10:13] <Rokkross> stan879nz: ./yourfilename
[10:13] <Rokkross> In the terminal.
[10:13] <Rokkross> That's not a script, but that's how you start scripts :P
[10:14] <suna> and it costs you a arm and a leg to buy a copy of it when i can use linux for free.
[10:14] <k1l> benbro: you can print to .pdf in ubuntu easily
[10:14] <suna> also am i doing better with making full sentances?
[10:14] <k1l> benbro: in other OS you need to install that first. but since its a ubunut support channel that is the answer :)
[10:14] <benbro> k1l: ppt to pdf, not pdf to image
[10:15] <k1l> benbro: what are we talking about? ubuntu?
[10:16] <benbro> k1l: yes
[10:16] <benbro> k1l: I want to convert a ppt to pdf on ubuntu
[10:16] <Rokkross> That's a bit odd.
[10:16] <k1l> benbro: open the "print" dialogue and see there are hardware printers and a pdf printer
[10:16] <Rokkross> Why do you want a presentation document to a pdf? :P
[10:17] <kgalahassa> i have a problem with my  ubuntu one configuration  , it ask me to enter my login keyring password, and i do not know what that means, i enter my sudo password, and it do not accept.
[10:17] <benbro> k1l: Rokkross: that's not my question
[10:18] <Rokkross> I know, it's my question.
[10:18] <benbro> thanks anyway
[10:18] <Rokkross> I realize if you need the information in multiple formats that it sounds convenient, but presentations in pdf format doesn't sound right.
[10:19] <dyeaw>  /j #tumanako
[10:19] <dyeaw> woops
[10:19] <k1l> Rokkross: that is not the support issue. maybe he wants to show the presentation slides?
[10:19] <Rokkross> /msg nickserv identify hunter2
[10:20] <benbro> Rokkross: I need to convert a presentation to a pdf and I'm asking how
[10:20] <benbro> that's all
[10:21] <Rokkross> http://www.artofsolving.com/opensource/pyodconverter please google before asking questions.
[10:21] <Rokkross> Seriously.
[10:22] <Rokkross> that's just one solution. More suited for converting a crap ton of documents, but it'll suffice for one as well.
[10:22] <k1l> Rokkross: dont do that. dont say people to google theirselves :/
[10:23] <benbro> Rokkross: seriously, I asked for a tool beside libreoffice
[10:23] <Rokkross> No no, I realize that there are some problems that need the support of a forum or IRC channel, but I mean...
[10:23] <Rokkross> am I wrong for expecting people to at least try a bit before asking?
[10:23] <benbro> Rokkross: I'm asking a legitimate question
[10:23] <Rokkross> Not even try, just look.
[10:23] <Rokkross> Oh I know it's a question.
[10:23] <benbro> Rokkross: "is there a tool to convert ppt to pdf besides libreoffice?"
[10:23] <DylanCl> Hello. When playing a game, I need to use shortcuts on a laptop. Like, the 1,2,3 keys. That wont work tho, I need to press SHIFT+1,2
[10:23] <k1l> Rokkross: be helpful when you want to help. thats all.
[10:24] <DylanCl> any way I can fix that
[10:24] <k1l> benbro: i said, every program can print anything to .pdf in ubuntu
[10:25] <k1l> benbro: or you use a cli tool like uniconv
[10:25] <benbro> k1l: I'm talking about a powerpoint presentation
[10:25] <k1l> benbro: i know
[10:26] <benbro> k1l: uniconv is using libreoffice or openoffice. I asked for something else
[10:26] <benbro> k1l: please don't answer my question because you don't know the answer. thanks :)
[10:26] <k1l> benbro: :/
[10:26] <k1l> i stated 2 very easy and correct answers. dont blame me if you dont want to use them
[10:28] <quatar> Hi all. What's the best online tutorial for installing Ubuntu dual boot alongside Win 8 on UEFI machines?
[10:29] <Rokkross> Hm...I'm not sure. UEFI is kind of tricky. I'm assuming it's UEFI with secure boot enabled correct?
[10:29] <quatar> Rokkross, i don't know yet: my friend is giving me her laptop in a few minutes.
[10:30] <Rokkross> From what I've heard that presents a problem. That is, enabling secure boot when you want to boot Windows and disabling it whenever you need to boot anything else.
[10:30] <mikubuntu> used the command from this page :: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-install-Google-Earth-in-Linux-the-easy-way/ ... but some problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5598408/ can anyone have a look and tell me what i might to to fix?
[10:31] <quatar> Rokkross, anyway i found that in the download page of ubuntu the UEFI guide is linked directly.
[10:31] <quatar> i'll start from there
[10:42] <Sumesh> I'm trying to manually add a Windows entry to the Grub 2 config (after my friend borked it)
[10:43] <Rokkross> Does update-grub not work?
[10:43] <Sumesh> Windows is installed in /dev/sda5, so what line should I have for set root=(hdx, x)?
[10:43] <Sumesh> No, I tried update-grub
[10:43] <akashj87> Hi
[10:43] <akashj87> how do i use SSH in 12.10
[10:43] <Sumesh> update-grub does not work, nor does Boot-repair from an Ubuntu Live USB
[10:44] <away> akashj87, I'm pretty sure openssh-client is preinstalled
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> Sumesh pastebin your grub in chat, they might be more helpfull for you
[10:44] <Rokkross> away: I think they might mean the server.
[10:44] <akashj87> sudo apt-get install openssh-server says package 'openssh-server' has no installation candidate.
[10:45] <akashj87> away : I want to SSH to this ubuntu box.
[10:45] <Rokkross> akashj87: apt-cache search openssh.
[10:45] <away> oh
[10:45] <away> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:46] <akashj87> apt-cache says libssl1.0.0 , ssh-askpass-gnome and openssh-client
[10:46] <Sumesh> lotuspsychje: Here's my grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598448/
[10:46] <akashj87> away : sudo apt-get install openssh-server giving me error that it has no installation candidate
[10:47] <Rokkross> It might be in a repo that you haven't enabled.
[10:47] <Rokkross> Open up the software center for me.
[10:47] <Sumesh> I tried adding a custom entry to 40__custom, and the entry shows up on GRUB menu, but it seems to be pointing at the wrong partition
[10:47] <Sumesh> If you can help me point it to the right partition it'd be great
[10:47] <Rokkross> Sumesh: Yeah, sorry. I was about to suggest something but I'm not sure what sda5 would be.
[10:47] <Rokkross> I don't want to cause you more problems by guessing :P
[10:47]  * Rokkross researches for a moment.
[10:47] <Sumesh> I mounted sda5, all the Windws files are on it
[10:48] <akashj87> Rokkross : i've opened Software center ...
[10:49] <Sumesh> Here's my fdisk output, if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598456/
[10:50] <Rokkross> akashj87: Okay, this may not work because I'm only sort of guessing, but it may well be in a different repo. In the menu, open "Edit" and then software sources
[10:50] <DylanCl> Hello. When playing a game, I need to use shortcuts on a laptop. Like, the 1,2,3 keys. That wont work tho, I need to press SHIFT+1,2
[10:50] <DylanCl> any way I can fix that
[10:51] <Antonis> Hello, is there a way to list all installed kernel images and headers?
[10:51] <Antonis> throu terminal that is
[10:51] <Antonis> through* sorry
[10:52] <llutz> Antonis: dpkg -l linux* |grep ^i
[10:52] <akashj87>  Rokkross : Yeah , but i am sort of newbie ..i have opened software sources
[10:52] <Rokkross> akashj87: Make sure main (it probably is), universe, restricted (only if you want proprietary software on occasion), and multiverse (restricted through copyright issues) are enabled. That should make most software you need available to you.
[10:52] <Antonis> thank you
[10:53] <wildc4rd> would anyone have any idea why intel speedstep isn't working under ubuntu?
[10:53] <akashj87> Rokkross : they are enabled.
[10:53] <Rokkross> Or wait a minute...
[10:53] <Rokkross> openssh is in main
[10:53] <Rokkross> I was assuming it was, but um...
[10:54] <Rokkross> Try running apt-get update. Maybe your package lists aren't up to date.
[10:54] <Rokkross> You'll probably have to run it as "sudo apt-get update" (without quotes) though.
[10:54] <akashj87> Rokkross : okay , it was a fresh ubuntu 12.10 32 bit install in virtualbox
[10:55] <Rokkross> Right right. I don't care about that.
[10:55] <k1l> akashj87: can you pastbin the command and the output from the terminal, please?
[10:56] <akashj87> k1l : sure , as advised by Rokkross running the update ...do you need pastebin of that also ?
[10:56] <Rokkross> Only if you see errors.
[10:57] <k1l> akashj87: yes, put it all into a pastebin. maybe there is somethiing that gives a hint
[10:58] <akashj87> sure guys
[11:00] <akashj87> Rokkross : now i got the prompt to download openssh-server :)
[11:00] <matelko> Hi. I am trying to add new mount partitions intu fstab. But after start system writes me that "Partition can not be mounted". I have this in fstab:  UUID=580d18ba-2af8-4699-a8dd-c0e123279055	media/disk2	ext4	user
[11:00] <Rokkross> That's good!
[11:01] <subthalamus> hi, I know automatic updates are frowned upon, but I need these two ubuntu precise boxes to update automatically
[11:01] <Rokkross> Make sure you update your package lists on a semi-regular basis. It shouldn't cause problems if you don't, but sometimes it does.
[11:01] <akashj87> Rokkross : yeah sure..thanks ...thank you k1l
[11:02] <subthalamus> I've configured unattended-upgrades but they continually prompt in kde that there are updates and you have to manually apply them and give password
[11:02] <Ben64> matelko: /media/disk2
[11:02] <matelko> Ben64: ok, thank you. Going to try it now.
[11:02] <matelko> bye
[11:02] <k1l> matelko: does /media/disk2 exist?
[11:03] <matelko> kll
[11:03] <matelko> kll: yes - the directory exists
[11:03] <k1l> matelko: and you can test the fstab with "sudo mount -a" no reboot needed
[11:03] <matelko> no reboot? ok.
[11:04] <matelko> k1l  - but what to type? I am kind of new into the linux.
[11:04] <k1l> matelko: see what i wrote just above
[11:05] <matelko> k1l - so I just fix the fstab and run the command?
[11:05] <k1l> yes. that will reread the whole fstab
[11:06] <matelko> k1l  ahh, thank you.
[11:06] <KolakCC> My scroll wheel is buggy. Is there a way to see if it's a software or a hardware problem?
[11:09] <matelko> k1l, Ben64 - thank you for your help. It works now. I worked on MS Win and I forgot that "Disk1" and "disk1" is different on linux.  :-)
[11:12] <subthalamus> I've configured unattended-upgrades but they continually prompt in kde that there are updates and you have to manually apply them and give password
[11:12] <subthalamus> is there a step I'm missing?
[11:13] <ericmcray> hello guys. My hdd has bad sector and I bougt a new hdd. now i want to move my win7 partition in old hdd to new hdd. I tried Gparted, simply copy and paste partition but it failed cuz bad sectors. Is there an other way to do this? if i use dd bad sectors be problem in new hdd?
[11:14] <_cronus_> ericmcray, you could either use ddrescue or ntfsclone with the rescue option
[11:15] <polatov>  /msg NickServ identify 275153
[11:15] <ericmcray> cronus: thx. I'm gonna try that
[11:16] <_cronus_> ericmcray, np
[11:21] <Client01> hello everyone!
[11:21] <Client01> having problem installing ubuntu 12.04
[11:21] <Rokkross> What's the problem?
[11:21] <Client01> the install window looks totally different, first time ever
[11:22] <Rokkross> Oh dear.
[11:22] <Rokkross> that polatov fellow used his actual password when he made that mistake.
[11:22] <invariant> I am seeing some people who recommend installing 11.10 packages on 12.04. Is this supported?
[11:22] <Rokkross> I probably shouldn't have ghosted him to test.
[11:22] <nudelsuppe> hi, my wireless card does not work. i use a HP ProBook 4540s and xubuntu 12.10. lspci says "Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)"
[11:23] <Client01> the install options dont workl
[11:23] <invariant> And another question: why would it not work?
[11:23] <Client01> when I click on run on usb or install on hard disk, neither functions
[11:24] <Client01> the graphics are different too
[11:24] <krystianm> Client01 where are those buttions that u are reffering to
[11:24] <krystianm> ?
[11:24] <k1l> invariant: no its not supported
[11:24] <Client01> the old ubuntu font style with dark blue background, instead of that dark cherry color
[11:25] <antonio_> is there any program that will keep me logged out of ubuntu for a given amount of time?
[11:25] <Client01> they are on the install ubuntu page that comes first when you run on usb installer
[11:25] <antonio_> need this for a productivity kind of thing
[11:26] <invariant> k1l, and why would it not work?
[11:27] <k1l> Invader_: because of depencies. sometimes it works but its not supported
[11:27] <Client01> interesting, it worked now with 12.10
[11:28] <polatov> Rokkross, suck bitch!
[11:28] <k1l> !language | polatov
[11:28] <Rokkross> Nah, that was deserved
[11:28] <antonio_> anyone?
[11:28] <Rokkross> I ghosted him twice
[11:28] <calwig> what is the BackTrack chan? #backtrack
[11:28] <antonio_> is there any program that will keep me logged out of ubuntu for a given amount of time?
[11:29] <k1l> Rokkross: stop that!
[11:29] <Rokkross> Hey hey
[11:29] <k1l> Rokkross: that is against the freenode policies!
[11:29] <Rokkross> if I wanted to mess with him I could have changed his password
[11:29] <Rokkross> but I didn't because I'm an awesome person
[11:29] <Rokkross> I'm only teasing.
[11:29] <polatov> k1| sorry
[11:29] <Rokkross> I don't appreciate that :(
[11:30] <Rokkross> I thought posting your nickserv password in public meant you were fair game.
[11:30] <k1l> Rokkross: stop that now!
[11:30] <k1l> !coc | Rokkross
[11:38] <eos> anyone who had any look using infrared dongles on ubuntu 12.10?
[11:39] <Rokkross> Infrared? For remote controls and such?
[11:39] <Rokkross> I haven't looked, but I know it's been done.
[11:41] <eos> Rokkross: just for data transmission
[11:41] <eos> Rokkross: I have been googling for days, but not luck!
[11:41] <k1l> !hcl | eos maybe here you will find some experience reports
[11:42] <mr_sausage> hi. i'm not able to mount my fakeraid volume in ubuntu 12.10. looks like a problem with dmraid. how to troubleshoot???
[11:43] <streulma> hello, my Macbook Pro is blowing, and to slow to run Mac anymore, time to install Ubuntu ?
[11:43] <eos> k1l: nope, not even there
[11:44] <Mokilok> streulma: which year was yours made? Out of curiosity.
[11:44] <k1l> eos: hmm, i think that should work somehow, but considering the speed and amount of work to do i would recommend other transfer ways like bluetooth or wifi or such
[11:44] <eos> k1l: the device only supports irda
[11:44] <streulma> Mokilok: It's  Macbook Pro 2010, Quad i7, 17 inch model with 7200rpm 500GB drive and now 16GB of ram
[11:45] <Mokilok> I thought you said it was slow :P
[11:46] <streulma> Mokilok: yes when I run virtual machines :(
[11:46] <Edisto> anyone know how to enable networking when booted in root recovery option?
[11:46] <Edisto> i tried sudo ./etc/init.d/networking restart but still not connecting to apt-get
[11:50] <xubuntu521> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[11:50] <xubuntu521> I did
[11:51] <xubuntu521> so I can't gen that drive open
[11:51] <_cronus_> eos, i used to have one of these usb irda dongles. what i remember is that i just plugged it in and it was shown as a serial device
[11:51] <eos> _cronus_: where should it be shown?
[11:52] <_cronus_> eos, /dev/ttyUSB0 probably. i dont remember for sure
[11:52] <eos> _cronus_: hiw do you open it?
[11:53] <xubuntu521> I want to backup old ubuntu files
[11:53] <eos> _cronus_: I am asking becaue it shows up like that, but I do not seem to be able to open the connection!
[11:53] <_cronus_> eos, i used minicom at the time, but probably gtkterm is a better option (i found that later)
[11:53] <xubuntu521> can't get them open with nautilus
[11:53] <xubuntu521> please help me
[11:53] <xubuntu521> :>
[11:53] <cfhowlett> xubuntu521, if in xubuntu, try using thunar
[11:54] <xubuntu521> pls read more
[11:54] <eos> _cronus_: is there any chanc eof seeing it in nautilus?
[11:54] <hapster> hello. anyone able to get optimus working with bumblebee and the nouveau driver? Mine doesn't seem to work. Using 12.10. Nvidia blob works fine though.
[11:54] <xubuntu521> I'm from webclient thats stored in xubuntu webpage, not on xubuntu
[11:54] <monta> Hi guys
[11:54] <xubuntu521> I need ubuntu type help, about mounting
[11:54] <_cronus_> eos, i don't know.
[11:55] <xubuntu521> how to make nautilus open /tmp/ecryptfs.mrDOtdpB#
[11:55] <xubuntu521> ?
[11:56] <monta> anyone can help me about flash player driver ?
[11:56] <_cronus_> eos, iirc you have to set the connection parameters correctly, otherwise it may not work at all
[11:57] <eos> _cronus_: iirc?
[11:57] <_cronus_> eos, if i remember correctly
[11:57] <eos> _cronus_: tahnks! :-D
[12:00] <nightmare__> #ubuntu steam
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !steam
[12:02] <nightmare__> hey is that person that was helping me
[12:02] <nightmare__> still online here
[12:02] <nightmare__> they were helping me with skyrim
[12:02] <eos> k1l: it is so frustrating
[12:05] <manxgoo> #join ubuntu-cn
[12:05] <cfhowlett> manxgoo, that woud be /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:13] <lolmaus> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 12.04.2, and installation freezes randomly at different points. Whyyyyy
[12:14] <lolmaus> It could freeze at "Preparing package blah" or at "Extracting foo" or whatever
[12:14] <runningman> I have problem I lost graphical interface, and I can't mount drives
[12:14] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, did you checksum the iso?
[12:14] <runningman> I have unity fallback session
[12:14] <runningman> now
[12:14] <runningman> how to restore unity?
[12:15] <runningman> I have 12.04
[12:16] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, yeoup, it was correct. I'm now re-burning the CD with verification. But i think it were the CD problem, then the installation would halt at the same point every time.
[12:16] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, y u no burn usb?  just sayin ...
[12:17] <{-Dark-}> halo
[12:17] <cfhowlett> {-Dark-}, greetings
[12:17] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, i tried, but the USB won't boot. I had previoulsy tried to install Ubuntu 12.10 Unity on another machine, and it would also fail to boot.
[12:17] <keshav89> Hello everyone
[12:18] <cfhowlett> keshav89, greetings
[12:18] <lolmaus> This time i tried two different USB creators (Pendrivelinux and LiLi), both fail.
[12:18] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, what hardware are you installing to?
[12:18] <lolmaus> It just would not boot.
[12:18] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux has a lot of different tools for making usbs at their site
[12:18] <keshav89> cfhowlett: I have asked this question in #upstart room but didn't get a reply
[12:18] <keshav89> so asking here :)
[12:18] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, what hardware ...
[12:19] <polatov> hi guys
[12:19] <keshav89> I am using upstart with gunicorn
[12:19] <cfhowlett> polatov, greetings
[12:19] <polatov> i have downgraded grub to 0.97
[12:19] <polatov> and installed gentoo
[12:19] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2843#sp
[12:20] <polatov> and have problem with ubuntu booting
[12:20] <keshav89> cfhowlett: Here is my /etc/init/myflask.conf - Let me know if I can go ahead.. otherwise I won't if that breaks the rule of IRC
[12:20] <polatov> does anyone help me?
[12:20] <dr_willis> polatov:  state the actual problem to the channel and see
[12:21] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, could you be hitting an EFI issue?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !paste|keshav89, paste your myflask.conf?  and ask your query
[12:22] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, wait, this is a vista/xp vintage mobo?
[12:23] <keshav89> My upstart conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598674/
[12:23] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, i don't think my MB is EFI-capable. The bios is set to AHCI, no UEFI mentioned.
[12:23] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, wut?
[12:23] <polatov> cfhowlett, can you help me? http://paste.org.ru/?myme19
[12:24] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett, ah, well then.  someone was here yesterday and hitting issues with AHCI enabled/disabled switching.
[12:24] <cfhowlett> polatov, you downgraded to grub .97 (why?), installed gentoo and NOW you also want to run ubuntu.  That right?
[12:25] <polatov> yeap
[12:25] <polatov> cos i dont like grub2
[12:25] <cfhowlett> polatov, what error are you getting on boot?
[12:25] <polatov> error 15
[12:25] <cfhowlett> polatov, mbr error.
[12:25] <quatar> Hello, I have a problem installing Ubuntu (EFI mode): it doesn't ask me the installation type (erase&install, install alongside win 8, manual type..), probably because of the raid system etc. But I can't manage to fix it
[12:25] <keshav89> cfhowlett: ubottu My conf file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598674/ The query I have is- I am not rebooting my server and just doing "initctl start myflask"
[12:25] <keshav89> But i don't see any process running
[12:26] <cfhowlett> polatov, I suspect you have configured more than the mbr limit of 4 primary partitions  ...
[12:26] <keshav89> when I do a status it says - stop/waiting..
[12:26] <polatov> but gentoo works
[12:27] <cfhowlett> keshav89, this question requires more knowledge than I have.  say in channel and ask again ...  By the way, if this is a server type issue, see #ubuntu-server
[12:27] <cfhowlett> polatov, you installed ubuntu last ... so that is the one effected
[12:27] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, what do you mean "vista vintage" MB?
[12:27] <keshav89> cfhowlett: ok cool not a problem.. I will ask in come other channel
[12:27] <cfhowlett> lolmaus,  I saw the specs on your mobo stated xp/vista compatible ...
[12:28] <cfhowlett> keshav89, sorry I couldn't help but perhaps someone here could.  check back
[12:28] <Darkas2> Hi! I've formatted a wrong disk with fat and need my data back. It was a fat before, and I've written almost nothing to it, and I've tried testdisk already, but it doesn't work for me, it only wants to undelete some files on the new partition. Is there any other way without photorec (that looses all my filenames/folders)?
[12:28] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, every Gigabyte MB claims that. :)
[12:29] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, ah.  ok.  so it's not a statement of age?  New mobo then.  Is this a custom build, by chance?
[12:29] <calwig> how does someone set the execute variable? chown -x?
[12:29] <calwig> on a file
[12:29] <quatar> anyone every installed UEFI dual boot?
[12:29] <away> chmod +x iirc
[12:29] <polatov> cfhowlett, no. i have installed gentoo last
[12:29] <dr_willis> calwig:  chown +x foo
[12:29] <dr_willis> !permissions | calwig
[12:29] <k1l> !anyone | quatar
[12:30] <calwig> dr_willis, thanks
[12:30] <dr_willis> calwig:  -x removes the setting
[12:30] <quatar> k1l, thx. Actually, I wrote my question before :) I have t suppose there's nobody who can help me now ...
[12:30] <cfhowlett> polatov, suggest you try the current grub unless
[12:30] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, i believe my PC configuration is pretty generic.
[12:31] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, OK.
[12:31] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, thinking
[12:31] <k1l> quatar: well, efi and raid is not my business. try to explain with more details maybe someone knows it
[12:32] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, that error stoppage at different points has me stumped.  the only time I've experienced such was when I had an un-detected short circuit which eventually killed my mobo.  random reboots, that kind of thing ...
[12:32] <calwig> oh
[12:32] <calwig> gotcha
[12:32] <calwig> dr_willis, was doing it wrong
[12:34] <quatar> well k1l, I start in EFI mode as explained [ help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ]. Then I run the installation, but it doesn't ask "install on the whole system OR alongside the existing OS OR manually", but directly prompt the partitioning tool which is empty... The same happens to this user: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170204/ubuntu-12-04-install-problems-installation-type-screen-no-options?lq=1 ... I tried to install mdadm as suggested but it didn't work
[12:36] <cfhowlett> quatar, last time I installed, the previous GPT partitioning rendered my partitions invisible to ubuntu... I had to go to terminal to command a partition table restructure
[12:37] <norbert_> Flash freezes my browser; anyone know if there has an Nvidia driver update in the last 24 hours?
[12:37] <quatar> cfhowlett, I'm not so skilled at exotic partitioning...
[12:37] <norbert_> (I'm using GNU/Linux Mint, but I think the packages are pretty much the same?)
[12:37] <quatar> anyway i'm working on a VAIO with Win8 installed by the constructor which I don't want to erase... So I try to be polite...
[12:38] <cfhowlett> norbert_, best you ask in a mint channel ... we don't support it in this one.
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !mint|norbert_,
[12:38] <cfhowlett> quatar, understood.
[12:39] <norbert_> k
[12:39] <cfhowlett> quatar, sorry, but I've not enough experience with this issue to advise you sensibly
[12:39] <quatar> cfhowlett, np! ;)
[12:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can tell me how to convert .mp4 to .mpg for burning to dvd? Brasero hangs, winff can't do it, and quite frankly the avconv manpage confuses the hell outta me
[12:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> quatar: whats the problem, i just came on channel
[12:40] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, look in the software center for video converters
[12:40] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i just use devede to generate a dvd iso i can burn to disk
[12:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: looking more for in-terminal, gui apps have failed me.
[12:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> devede failed also, forgot that one.
[12:41] <mr_sausage> I have a disk that reports 2 typesof RAID metadata.  Only 1 type is valid.  How do I remove the other type safely??
[12:42] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  and the error was? You did click that resize button it has? ;)
[12:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yes, I'll do it again so I can get the error for you.
[12:42] <dr_willis> run it from a terminal so you can see error messages also
[12:43] <quatar> ntzrmtthihu777, the problem is about dual boot installing in EFI mode... do you have any exper. about this?
[12:43] <mr_sausage> Here is the output from dmraid -n http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598714/
[12:43] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  you made a dvd with it? or tried the divs/mpeg4 option?
[12:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> quatar: sorry, nope :( efi == sadface
[12:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: It immedieatly failed.
[12:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: and just gave my good old fallback formatjunkie a shot, also fail.
[12:47] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, i have just succeeded installing it from a freshly burned and verified CD. So it was either a bad CD or i was lucky not to catch the freeze on the fourth try.
[12:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> running file on the mp4 yields ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 1
[12:47] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, good job.  time to clean the CDburner, maybe??
[12:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I had used the first option of devede, Video Dvd
[12:49] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:   the last option juist makes an iso of mp4 files it seems.. heres a commandline it was using...
[12:49] <dr_willis> pastebin.ubuntu.com/5598736/
[12:50] <avrelaun> Hi
[12:50] <cfhowlett> avrelaun, greetings
[12:50] <saimanoj> Is Ubuntu participating in GSoC this year?
[12:50] <avrelaun> I'm on a Macbook pro 7.1 13"with 320m
[12:50] <avrelaun> using ubuntu lts 12.04.2
[12:51] <avrelaun> with the live environment using the live cd
[12:51] <dr_willis> make a dvd fails for me also.. seems some issue with the the python cide.
[12:51] <avrelaun> the screen backlight keys worked
[12:51] <ronalds> how to make lightdm use gtk frontend
[12:52] <avrelaun> after installing and rebooting, the keys are working in the UI, but the brightness doesn't adjust
[12:52] <ronalds> instead of messed up kdm
[12:52] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, it froze during the first boot! :( The second boot attempt was fine, but the issue seem to be still there.
[12:52] <avrelaun> the popup appears and everything
[12:52] <avrelaun> but nothing else
[12:52] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, i've got two pairs of RAM modules from different vendors installed. Can this be the cause?
[12:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: will that option create a dvd that works on a portable dvd player?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, at least you're up and running.  I've had much better success with USB than cdrom ...
[12:53] <onto> Hi! Ubuntu freezes when my wireless connects or disconnects. And sometimes it crashes
[12:53] <jgm90> hi
[12:53] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  devede does not burn.. it just generates the iso files
[12:53] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, "should not" be an issue, but ... ?
[12:54] <mr_sausage> I have a disk that has 2 types of RAID metadata on it.  I need to remove one of them.  How?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598714/
[12:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: well you knoe what I mean, lol. will the dvd resulting from the iso work on portable dvd players.
[12:54] <ronalds> how to make lightdm use gtk frontend
[12:54] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, well, i'll keep a monitor attached to the machine for the first week and see how it goes. Hope it's all right. If it keeps failing, i'll try to remove one set of RAM and change the video card (currently some old cheap nVidia).
[12:55] <cfhowlett> lolmaus, hope everything is as smooth as a baby's behind ...
[12:56] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777: should.
[12:56] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  unless its so old it cant read the cd-r/disks you burn
[12:57] <lolmaus> cfhowlett, thx and bye ^_^
[12:57] <jgm90> any guide for pgpool2 and ubuntu?
[12:57] <onto> also for some reason my USB disconnects
[12:59] <usr13> onto: Let me guess;  You want to know why?
[12:59] <onto> usr13: Yes, and fix it hopefully
[13:00] <usr13> onto: Are you talking about a USB flash drive?
[13:00] <usr13> onto: Or...........?
[13:00] <onto> usr13: no any usb (usb mouse, usb charger)
[13:01] <usr13> onto: What do you mean by "disconnects"?  Does it just stop working?
[13:01] <onto> Yes, exactly
[13:01] <usr13> After how long?
[13:01] <usr13> Is there a certain length of time?
[13:01] <onto> I don't know, I need to restart to check
[13:02] <usr13> onto: Well, I don't have a clue, maybe someone else here does, but one thing you might do is monitor the syslog
[13:02] <usr13> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[13:03] <onto> ok
[13:03] <onto> what about the freeze on wireless connect/disconnect?
[13:03] <Jack_X> sms with usb modem???
[13:03] <saimanoj> Is Ubuntu participating in GSoC this year?
[13:03] <usr13> When something quits working, you might get a clue.
[13:03] <usr13> onto: "freeze"?
[13:04] <elvinz> hi, when I suspend, my notebook immediately wakeup. Some lines on screen indicate that some devices failed to suspend, but it just flashes, I can't read anything. Is it possible to get the log of the suspend creen somewhere ?
[13:04] <usr13> onto: Tell me about the freeze.
[13:04] <onto> usr13: Yes, the everything freezes mouse doesn't respond caps and num locks don't light up. And if I'm too persistent it crashes.
[13:04] <wildc4rd> would anyone have any idea why my CPU throttling isn't working under ubuntu?
[13:05] <usr13> onto: "it crashes"?  The whole system locks up?
[13:05] <onto> usr13: yes, I can't even go to the other terminals
[13:06] <usr13> onto: There again, syslog should give a clue.  You may need to watch it from outside, (a ssh session from another PC on your LAN).
[13:06] <onto> usr13: ok, will try
[13:06] <Dragon707> Hi, i cant install my ubuntu. It keeps loading after i click on continue on the second step (choose for updates and MP3 support)
[13:07] <usr13> But even if you are on the local PC, as long as you can still see the GUI terminal that is monitoring syslog, you should get some sort of clue.
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Dragon707, install without those items.  you and add them later.
[13:07] <usr13> onto: Tell me about this PC.  CPU RAM VIDEO,etc...
[13:07] <cfhowlett> saimanoj, only thing I could find on GSOC '13  http://www.linux-support.com/cms/ubuntu-developers-valorie-zimmerman-planning-for-google-summer-of-code/
[13:07] <mr_sausage> I have a problem with multiple RAID metadata on one of my disks.  I'd like to remove *some* of it. Can anyone guide me?
[13:08] <Dragon707> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks. I will try that :)
[13:08] <saimanoj> cfhowlett: Thanks
[13:09] <onto> usr13: it's a toshiba satellite c650d
[13:10] <onto> usr13: let me google the specifications
[13:10] <expert> i want to be able to search all *.jpg files in my system and copy them all in one directory.. could someone please help with the command
[13:10] <usr13> onto: Oh it's a laptop?  Could it be overheating?
[13:11] <usr13> onto: 320.0 GB - Serial ATA-300 - 5400.0 rpm ?
[13:11] <onto> usr13: it's at 47 degrees currently -- and earlier I had no problems with it going 70 degrees.
[13:11] <onto> the wireless problem has always been there but this usb-issue started randomly today
[13:11] <usr13> onto: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[13:11] <onto> usr13: yes
[13:12] <onto> usr13: 12.04
[13:12] <usr13> onto: Is it fully updated?
[13:12] <onto> usr13: no
[13:12] <usr13> onto: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:12] <onto> usr13: slow internet :(
[13:13] <cfhowlett> onto, I'd go one step further ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:13] <usr13> cfhowlett: Why?
[13:13] <onto> isn't 12.04 LTS?
[13:13] <usr13> onto: Yes
[13:14] <usr13> cfhowlett: I think we should stick with fixing what we have.
[13:14] <usr13> first....
[13:14] <cfhowlett> usr13, to get package updates/additions since the 12.04 release.  Just my preference...
[13:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis:
[13:14] <akashj87> how can i use two network interfaces using 12.10 inside virtualbox ...such that one is available for host only networking and other for internet so that when host is connected to internet, guests can also connect.
[13:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height
[13:14] <usr13> onto: You need to get it updated.  Then see if you still have problems.
[13:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> akashj87: you just need to set up one. I forget the exact setup but a connection between host and guest will give guest internet.
[13:15] <onto> usr13: ok, will do so
[13:15] <usr13> onto: Ok. Let us know.
[13:16] <akashj87> ntzrmtthihu777 : in virtualbox i have setup two interfaces for Ubuntu, one host only , and other bridged , but still when i connect to internet, the ubuntu guest cant access ...
[13:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> akashj87: what are the host and guest
[13:17] <akashj87> ntzrmtthihu777 : host : mac osx 10.7 , and guest is Ubuntu 12.10
[13:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> akashj87: no experience with mac, sorry
[13:18] <akashj87> ntzrmtthihu777 : np, but i wanted to know if my ubuntu ifconfig shows me two interfaces, how can i use one for internet
[13:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> akashj87: not a clue. it "just worked" for me.
[13:18] <usr13> akashj87: So what is the bridged one for?
[13:19] <akashj87> usr13 : my router is on 192.168.1.1 , so bridged is for when host is plugged in
[13:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I think my video files may be mislabeled.
[13:19] <usr13> akashj87: Well, I don't understand your situation. Sorry.
[13:20] <akashj87> usr13 : all i want to do is that i want the VM's and host to be connected ( done using host only networking ) , and VM's to be available for internet when host is plugged in.
[13:20] <akashj87> currently host can access internet
[13:20] <akashj87> but VM's are not able to
[13:21] <usr13> akashj87: I don't understand "when host is plugged in".
[13:22] <akashj87> usr13 : I dont have "always on" internet connectivity ...so bridged does nt work for me ...
[13:22] <usr13> akashj87: ... plugged into ___________________?
[13:22] <akashj87> usr13 : en0 interface on host (mac)
[13:22] <usr13> akashj87: Well, it sounds to me like you need to set it up so that it IS "always on".
[13:22] <dakotawulfy> does any one know the command line to see blocked connections ???
[13:23] <usr13> dakotawulfy: What do you mean by "blocked connections"?
[13:23] <akashj87> usr13 : oh ok ..but anyway i can configure ubuntu to use both interfaces ?
[13:23] <akashj87> like host only for vm communications and other for accessing internet
[13:23] <marlow_> dakotawulfy: sudo iptables -L
[13:23] <usr13> dakotawulfy: But what you may be wanting is tcpdump.
[13:23] <dakotawulfy> well like what u would see in firestarter
[13:24] <dakotawulfy> firestarter not show it any more
[13:24] <usr13> akashj87: Yes, you should be able to.
[13:24] <EmLeX> Hello guys. can somebody give a example of blocking all trafic for a specific linux user when he goes over 100gb upload or download
[13:25] <mr_sausage> I have a problem with multiple RAID metadata on one of my disks.  I'd like to remove *some* of it. Can anyone guide me?
[13:25] <akashj87> usr13 : i had modified /etc/network/interfaces for that ..but even then for outside links it cant seem to use that interface
[13:25] <usr13> dakotawulfy: I don't know how you've got them blocked, but depending on how the iptables rule is written, you may or may not be able to see anything. Depends on if it is logged or not.
[13:25] <usr13> dakotawulfy: Because the point of blocking something is so that you do not see it.
[13:25] <dakotawulfy> ok
[13:26] <usr13> akashj87: Does ifconfig see it?  Can you set an IP to it?  Can you then ping that IP?
[13:26] <dakotawulfy>  usr13 use to work in firestarter to show up blocked connections but now i dont see any now
[13:26] <usr13> dakotawulfy: .... well not exactly that you don't see it, but that would be a side effect.
[13:28] <usr13> dakotawulfy: And by seeing the blocked connections, I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Are you talking about IP addresses, or the actual traffic that you are blocking, (the connection attemps or...?).
[13:28] <dakotawulfy> yes
[13:28] <usr13> dakotawulfy: And I'm also not understanding why this is not a function of your router?
[13:28] <dakotawulfy>  in firestarter it use to show that
[13:28] <usr13> dakotawulfy: Your firewall needs to be on the router.
[13:29] <dakotawulfy> go one on it
[13:29] <dakotawulfy> got one on it
[13:29] <usr13> dakotawulfy: Ok then, that is where the blocking needs to be done.
[13:29] <avrelaun> NVidia proprietary driver was installed by default
[13:29] <avrelaun> on ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:29] <avrelaun> how can I switch back to nouveau ?
[13:30] <avrelaun> I've uninstalled nvidia proprietary
[13:30] <usr13> avrelaun: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:30] <dakotawulfy> so the reason they are not showing up in firestarter is that it is blocked from my router ???
[13:30] <usr13> avrelaun: or just mv it
[13:30] <dakotawulfy>  like when i played smokenguns use to show blocked connections
[13:30] <usr13> dakotawulfy: Yep.
[13:30] <avrelaun> usr13: there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:31] <usr13> dakotawulfy: If the router blocks it, you sure-enough won't see it.
[13:31] <usr13> avrelaun: Then you are already using the OpenSource driver.  lsmod | grep veau
[13:33] <avrelaun> usr13: The 3d effects are broken on unity and gnome shell
[13:34] <avrelaun> usr13: mesa or dri missing ?
[13:34] <usr13> avrelaun: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:35] <avrelaun> usr13: Yes, it's Nouveau
[13:35] <avrelaun> usr13: no trace of mesa/dri
[13:35] <usr13> avrelaun: Ok then, you'll not have 3d etc.
[13:36] <avrelaun> usr13: I cannot use 3d on nouveau ? even for just desktop ?
[13:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> why the hell to folk want that resource hog of unity-3d? may as well use windows aero
[13:36] <usr13> avrelaun: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[13:37] <ilunimatii> hii can someone help me?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !ask|ilunimatii,
[13:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | ilunimatii
[13:38] <usr13> ilunimatii: No, we just ran out.  Should have been here 5 minutes ago.  ;0
[13:39] <xdccFriend_[6743> ciao
[13:39] <xdccFriend_[6743> !list
[13:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> fail
[13:39] <ilunimatii> how to update metasploit in backtrack 5 r1
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ot | ilunimatii
[13:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> ilunimatii: and I advise you to upgrade to r3
[13:40] <usr13> ilunimatii: /join #metasploit
[13:40] <EmLeX> ilunimatii: may i recomend #backtrack-linux channel
[13:40] <_siracs_> i just pluged an USB 2.0 card with a NEC chipset into my old box, but the driver did not load automatic
[13:41] <LittleFool> Hello, is there a bash scripting channel somewhere?
[13:41] <_siracs_> which driver do i need?
[13:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> LittleFool: #bash
[13:41] <usr13> LittleFool: /join ##bash
[13:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> usr13: why the double hashtag?
[13:41] <LittleFool> hm thanks, shought it wouldnt be that easy
[13:41] <_siracs_> old manuals telling something bout usb-uhci.o and usb-ohci .. but those are very old
[13:42] <ilunimatii> thanks
[13:42] <_siracs_> any idea which modules to try?
[13:43] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: freenode guidelines for channel naming. more in #freenode
[13:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> _siracs_: lsusb should give you a clue what to search for.
[13:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: thankya, just wondering.
[13:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> using ffmpeg does anyone know how to reduce the # of channels
[13:45] <mr_sausage> does anyone here have experience dealing with dmraid?
[13:47] <_siracs_> ntzrmtthihu777: hmm .. lsmod -vvv gives me ohci_hcd and ehci_hcd
[13:47] <leex> hi I try to reinstall my machine (on my new ssd) but the grub-efi package always fails to install into /target/
[13:47] <Techathy> I'm trying to make a mac mini into a dedicated xbmc htpc. I've got to the point of getting everything but X11 to work,
[13:47] <leex> is there a known fix for that?
[13:47] <Dragon707> cfhowlett: Hi, i am back
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> _siracs_: lsmod is loaded modules, I think. you would not need that, as it is not working, right?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Dragon707, good news I trust
[13:48] <Dragon707> cfhowlett: it didn't work to install without updates and extra support for ex. it still keeps loading
[13:48] <_siracs_> ntzrmtthihu777: die modprobe ohci_hdc  and  modprobe ehci_hdc  but i don't see any loaded drivers
[13:48] <Techathy> I keep on getting the error 'Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration'. Anyone have ideas on how to fix this?
[13:48] <ThaleS27> hi
[13:49] <Techathy> My mac mini has an Radeon HD 6700M
[13:49] <_siracs_> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah .. the modules are not loaded .. but locate did not find them too
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Dragon707, ok, switch off/disconnect internet and install...  by the way, you DID verify with md5sum?  and check disk for errors when you first booted?
[13:49] <Techathy> sorry 6630M
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Techathy,
[13:50] <_siracs_> ntzrmtthihu777: i did make a updatedb but still no drivers to be found
[13:50] <Dragon707> cfhowlett: I tryd to install without a internet connection but the same happens
[13:50] <Dragon707> i am now gonna check the md5sum
[13:50] <Dragon707> be right back then :)
[13:50] <rogier> Is it possible to set firefox in a way that i can double click next to the tabs to open a new tab? like on a mac?
[13:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: it has a button to do that, is that not good enouhg?
[13:51] <Techathy> cfhowlett: already done
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Techathy, arr. OK. provide more details ... hardware and such.
[13:51] <rogier> It works but on my job i have a mac and i've got really used to double clicking next to the last open tab
[13:52] <cfhowlett> rogier, that is the default ff behavior as well
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: wow, just tried it. it works, damn cool
[13:52] <Techathy> cfhowlett: what info do you want?
[13:52] <rogier> Ow i see know. I moved the button so that it is next to the last tab. This is oké
[13:53] <rogier> what really here it does not?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Techathy, gpu is the big question ..
[13:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: what?
[13:53] <rogier> The double click to open new window
[13:53] <rogier> window i mean tab
[13:53] <Techathy> Radeon HD 6630
[13:54] <Techathy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598926/ <<-- Xorg.0.Log
[13:54] <cfhowlett> rogier, see your firefox preferences/settings to effect button behavior
[13:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: oh, the way you punctuated that made it seem gibberish. yes, it works perfectly fine.
[13:54] <rogier> does not work like that here. But i moved the button next to tabs now. That's good enough.
[13:55] <Andy80> guys, I'm sorry to do it, who do I have to report an "harrassment" in private dialog from a person of this channel? Thanks
[13:55] <ikonia> Andy80: join #ubuntu-ops
[13:55] <ikonia> Andy80: join #ubuntu-opss
[13:55] <ikonia> oops
[13:55] <Andy80> thank you
[13:55] <ikonia> #ubuntu-ops
[13:55] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: lawl!
[13:56] <Techathy> I've just done a fresh install of 12.04 Server, installed Xorg & fglrx driver to make sure that I've not broken anything. Same result
[13:56] <theadmin> Andy80: You can also use your IRC client's /ignore feature so that the person shall bother you no longer.
[13:57]  * Sietsem is now away: Gone, BNC. Leave a message.
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Andy80: yup, it works wonders with trolls
[13:57] <theadmin> !away > Sietsem
[13:57] <leex> I bought a new ssd for my desktop and I am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on this new ssd and the 12.10 installer always fails ("grub-efi failed to install into /target/...") while trying to install grub-efi. the machine has (with another hdd) been running a 12.10 system. is there a workaround for this?
[13:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know an av channel?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> ntzrmtthihu777, audio/video?  try #ubuntustudio
[14:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: ah, thanks
[14:01] <theadmin> leex: Could you try running grub-install manually and providing the output of that? ("sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/target/boot/ /dev/sda")
[14:01] <ilunimatii> help
[14:01] <Techathy> cfhowlett: any thoughts?
[14:01] <Frazzle> Hi everyone this is my first time in this channel. I installed 12.4 on this machine and am looking to set it up as a local file server, any advice what to use links to a tut or other resources?
[14:02] <theadmin> Techathy: Why are you installing X on a server machine?
[14:02] <k1l> !help | ilunimatii
[14:02] <theadmin> Frazzle: "file server" is fuzzy. You can make an FTP, SFTP, OwnCloud, samba, ...
[14:02] <rogier> test ignore this
[14:02] <quatar> Tadà... I managed to install a dual boot EFI (ubuntu - win8) but now the GRUB entry for Win 8 won't work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI , item 5, says "boot via LIVE and then Boot Repai". Does it waste my already done Ubuntu installation?
[14:03] <quatar> Why can't i perform boot repair from inside the installed ubuntu?
[14:03] <Techathy> theadmin: I'm installing ubuntu server for a minimal install. All I want is Xorg & xbmc installed on the machine
[14:03] <theadmin> Techathy: Why not use the XBMC livecd as provided by xbmc.org? It's installable.
[14:04] <Techathy> because it blows up quite spectacularly when trying to boot on my mac mini :(
[14:04] <leex> theadmin: this gpt partition label contains no bios partition; embedding won't be possible. embedding is not possible. grub can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. however, blocklists are unreliable and their use discouraged.
[14:04] <mr_sausage> Techathy: openELEC might be what you're looking for
[14:04] <theadmin> quatar: Because you can't boot it? If you're using boot-repair it means you can't boot a system.
[14:05] <Frazzle> theadmin, can that be setup for local only access?
[14:05] <theadmin> Frazzle: ...Which one?
[14:05] <quatar> theadmin, I can boot my system
[14:05] <leex> theadmin: I also told the installer to crypt my device and to use lvm
[14:05] <Frazzle> any
[14:05] <quatar> theadmin, I can boot it but only under ubuntu
[14:05] <theadmin> quatar: Oh, then you can just try running "sudo update-grub" from inside of Ubuntu
[14:06] <quatar> theadmin, why do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI suggest to do boot-repair in my case?
[14:06] <quatar> *in my situation
[14:06] <theadmin> Frazzle: Well, I don't see why not.
[14:06] <rogier> Running gnome classic here. Is there no alt+tab function?
[14:06] <Frazzle> theadmin, Somba looks intresting.
[14:07] <theadmin> Frazzle: Samba you mean.
[14:07] <theadmin> Frazzle: That's the Windows sharing system -- if you're not running Windows machines, stay away from it
[14:07] <Frazzle> yes bad speller at times
[14:08] <rogier> Or some other key combo to switch between windows?
[14:08] <Frazzle> All the other machines are running win xp, win 7 and win 8.
[14:09] <Techathy> mr_sausage: considering I seem to be having driver/hardware compatibility issues how does changing distro help?
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: yes, I use alt+tab to switch windows all the time
[14:09] <theadmin> Frazzle: Ah, then that may end up being the best option.
[14:09] <rogier> Wierd
[14:09] <rogier> Does not work here.
[14:09] <Frazzle> theadmin, Thanks for your help!
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know about audio-video conversion? #ubuntustudio is quiet atm
[14:10] <rogier> Maybe because i installed gnome?
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: I use gnome-classic as well
[14:10] <mr_sausage>  Techathy: openELEC has some very hardware specific builds.  I know they have one for the appleTV and I remember reading that people have openELEC working with core2 mini
[14:11] <Guest21758> heya all
[14:11] <quatar> Okay, i try to be more clear. I have correctly installed Ubuntu alongside Win 8 on a EFI. Now in my grub, Ubuntu (EFI) starts properly. Windows doesn't start properly. I'd use boot-repair. But from where? from the live Ubuntu (as suggested https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI here) or from the working installed ubuntu?
[14:11] <Techathy> mr_sausage: including me ;)
[14:11] <rogier> It's confusing why it's not working.
[14:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: check your keycuts
[14:12] <Techathy> The i7 mac mini is very different to the earlier ones.
[14:13] <raviteja> hoo
[14:13] <rogier> It's in there
[14:13] <EugenGenu> haa
[14:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> quatar: go ahead and do it from the working install if you can boot it, the guide assumes a non-bootable ubuntu
[14:14] <rogier> ntzrmtthihu777: It's in there,  somthing else mst be wrong
[14:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: how strange
[14:14] <quatar> ntzrmtthihu777, okay. Strange, anyway.
[14:14] <rogier> ntzrmtthihu777: Maybe just install the whole thing again. Start clean.
[14:15] <rogier> Was thinking to switch to a ad-free distro anyway.
[14:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: that's a windows mindset. you are on a macbook wit ubuntu, right? from what I read thats tricky
[14:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: ad?
[14:16] <rogier> Maybe i got some pirate version or something. Got the iso from tpb. But there's like affiliate links to amazon and things.
[14:16] <compdoc> Frazzle, samba is excellent, even for linux
[14:16] <compdoc> even if you didnt have WIndows
[14:17] <auronandace> rogier: the amazon plugin is on by default, you can turn it off
[14:17] <rogier> No it's a normal HP laptop. I have a mac at work to play music and stuff
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: may be a good idea to re-install then, you never know what may have been stuck into an unofficial iso.
[14:17] <rogier> Mac sucks big time bye the way.
[14:17] <rogier> But the amazon affiliate links are normal?
[14:17] <k1l> rogier: just uninstall the amazon shopping lense and you are done
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: but as auronandace says, you can turn that off.
[14:17] <auronandace> rogier: yes, that's normal
[14:18] <rogier> Strange
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: he is under gnome, anyways, so why would  he se the affiliate links?
[14:18] <k1l> he is not using unity? then he is making things up
[14:18] <auronandace> rogier: i disagree with it being on by default but that's what canonical decided and i'm glad you can turn them off easily
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: doubt it. rogier do have skip-screen installed in firefox?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: above questoin
[14:19] <rogier> Yes i haven seen it since i switched to gnome now i think about it.
[14:19] <rogier> Skip-screen?
[14:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: its a firefox addon, and if you install it carelessly it will give you the links
[14:24] <mvt007geek> hi people
[14:25] <mvt007geek>  i mounted a file system into /mnt when i want to write into it say: cannot write permission denied . i did the samething in debian but in there it gave me no error and just did my order. what the problem is?
[14:25] <Micheal> hello mvt007geek
[14:25] <Micheal> chmod +R
[14:25] <bekks> mvt007geek: You dont have permissions to execute your order.
[14:26] <mvt007geek> bekks: why ? how can i fix it?
[14:27] <Micheal> to get write access to a drive other then the one you boot from you need to chmod +R /media/drivename
[14:27] <mvt007geek> Micheal: i did.still the same problem
[14:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Micheal: thats +r
[14:27] <Micheal> what group are you in
[14:28] <Micheal> +R is Write
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> and really +w
[14:28] <llutz> Micheal: read "man chmod" please
[14:28] <llutz> mvt007geek: what filesystem?
[14:29] <threex5> Hi, I would like to 'upgrade' my 32 bit installation with a 64 bit one. My /home folder is on its own partition. What would be the best way to make this change?
[14:29] <quatar> ho appena eseguito un boot-reepair. In fondo mi dice "non dimenticare si impostare la priorità di avvio nel BIOS al file sda3/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi "
[14:29] <quatar> che intende!?
[14:29] <bekks> threex5: The only way is a reinstallation.
[14:29] <lesshaste> is there a command line to convert an mp3 to wav?
[14:29] <llutz> threex5: you cannot upgrade 32->64 bit, you have to do a fresh insall
[14:29] <llutz> install
[14:29] <quatar> uh sorry for the language!
[14:30] <threex5> bekks, llutz, that's fine. I would assume all my dotfiles would be compatible with a 64 bit os so I should be able to keep my home partition intact
[14:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: easy. install the 64 bit install, but do not use your home partition. after install edit your fstab to mount your /home partition
[14:30] <mvt007geek> llutz: yaffs
[14:30] <chandler_> hello
[14:30] <threex5> ntzrmtthihu777, couldn't I just use my /home partition during the install process, but not format it?
[14:30] <llutz> lesshaste: lame --decode foo.mp3
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: I tried that once, but I think it overwrote my home folder because I used the same user name
[14:31] <threex5> my biggest concern is the amount of time it would take to uninstall all the programs I don't want, and then reinstall all the ones I do
[14:31] <llutz> threex5: the installer has an option to keep /home untouched, to be sure i'd backup things before
[14:31] <lesshaste> llutz, nice! thanks
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: no escaping that, programs get installed to / not / in general
[14:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> */home in general
[14:32] <threex5> ntzrmtthihu777, how possible is it to get a list of installled packages and just running it once the new os is in?
[14:32] <llutz> !clone | threex5
[14:32] <threex5> sudo apt-get remove [everything I don't want] install [everything I do]
[14:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> like ubotto said
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:33] <threex5> ubottu, thank you.
[14:33] <mrgadget> BluesKaj: Hi!
[14:35] <threex5>  ntzrmtthihu777, llutz, does ubottu's solution work when going from 32 to 64 bit?
[14:35] <onto> usr13: the usb is working so far for no apparent reason, still upgrading
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: if you install the 32 bit libs in your new machine it should be no issue.
[14:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: erm, new install
[14:36] <mrgadget> quit
[14:36] <threex5> ntzrmtthihu777, ok, but that seems to semi-defeat the purpose
[14:36] <threex5> i would want the corresponding 64 bit versions of those packages
[14:37] <threex5> on a 64 bit ok
[14:37] <threex5> *OS
[14:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: some programs only exist as 32 bit, and apt-get should choose the best match.
[14:38] <threex5> ntzrmtthihu777, when you say it should choose the best match, does that mean that if a 64 bit version is available, apt-get will probably grab that version?
[14:38] <k1l> threex5: ubuntu is multiarch. means you install "package" and it chooses the right 32bit or 64bit package
[14:39] <threex5> k1l, ntzrmtthihu777,great. Thank you
[14:40] <Micheal> unless you have a app that is 32 bit and install it manually
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: yest.
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: how much ram do you have, anyways?
[14:41] <Micheal> what distros are we using today
[14:41] <Micheal> im using ubuntu
[14:42] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: that is not a matter of ram
[14:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Micheal: as this is #ubuntu I think most of us are, or some variation thereof
[14:42] <wickedheadache> i can't find ZyXEL wifi drivers in synaptic or software wizard?
[14:43] <Micheal> true, but most are and could use more then just ubuntu
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: unless I am mistaken a 32 bit system can only handle 4gb of ram, so installing a 64 bit system on only 4gb or less of ram seems pointless.
[14:43] <auronandace> Micheal: do you need any help?
[14:44] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: there are PAE kernels on 32bit. that infomration is outdated long time
[14:44] <k1l> !ot | Micheal
[14:44] <pypo> is there a good
[14:44] <pypo> youtube downloader?
[14:44] <pypo> that works
[14:44] <pypo> I tried fatrat
[14:45] <pypo> but somehow doesnt download
[14:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: is that so?! awesome.
[14:45] <pypo> nomnom did nothing either
[14:45] <pypo> nor slimrat
[14:45] <pypo> am I missing out somewhere?
[14:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> pypo: youtube-dl
[14:46] <pypo> I installed it too
[14:46] <pypo> but not tried yet
[14:46] <pypo> forgot among others :)
[14:46] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: from 12.10 onwards pae is enabled by default on 32bit machines
[14:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> pypo: literally the best one available.
[14:46] <threex5> ntzrmtthihu777, 4gb
[14:47] <leex-> hi, I am still having trouble with installing ubuntu 12.10 64bit on my new ssd. the installer fails with (The 'grub-efi' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.) and then if I try to install grub by hand (grub-install --boot-directory=/target/boot/ /dev/sda) I get this: http://pastie.org/6430135
[14:47] <threex5> i'm running 12.04
[14:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: k1l: but my question was not about 32 bit using more than 4gb ram, but about the benefit of using 64 bit on only 4gb ram.
[14:47] <threex5> the bot said this might have problems with multiarch before 12.10
[14:47] <threex5> ubottu !automate
[14:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: auronandace: is there any benefit of 64 bit if you only have 4gb ram.
[14:48] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: _one_ advantage was to have more than 4gb ram adressed.. its not the only advantage
[14:48] <threex5> ubottu !cloning
[14:48] <toidinamai> Hello.
[14:48] <pypo> is the command line like this: ":user@user:~$youtube-dl url" ?
[14:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: you don't have to address ubottu to do a !, just do it.
[14:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> pypo: youtube-dl -h will explain it.
[14:49] <toidinamai> I believe the file ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso on http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/ubuntu-cd//quantal/ is corrupt.
[14:49] <pypo>  tried and proved true.
[14:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> threex5: and its better to point it at yourself like cloning > threex5 so it shows in your pm and does not flood the channel
[14:49] <pypo> downloads now, thank you very much!
[14:50] <auronandace> toidinamai: try another mirror
[14:50] <toidinamai> The checksums don't match, were as the size and timestamp match.
[14:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> toidinamai: then download from releases.ubuntu.com
[14:50] <threex5> oh I see. thanks.
[14:50] <toidinamai> Obviously, but someone should fix it.
[14:50] <toidinamai> Were do I log a bug or some such?
[14:50] <auronandace> toidinamai: is that an official mirror?
[14:50] <toidinamai> Yes.
[14:50] <toidinamai> It linked from ubuntu.com.
[14:50] <IHateHavingToReg> I have an Ubuntu VM which I SSH to. I am told that I have exceed my disk quota. When I type "quota" at the cmd line though nothing comes up. Is there another way I can view my quota and usage?
[14:51] <Micheal> I agree with ntzrmtthihu777 download the iso from ubuntu and get down with it
[14:51] <k1l> toidinamai: its not for sure that the image on that server is broken. maybe just the transfer to you was corrupt
[14:51] <toidinamai> k1l: I downloaded three times just to make sure.
[14:51] <bekks> IHateHavingToReg: Whats the exact message you get?
[14:51] <IHateHavingToReg> could not create ./games/year_2010/month_04/day_29/gid_2010_04_29_chamlb_texmlb_1/: Disk quota exceeded
[14:52] <k1l> IHateHavingToReg: ask the hoster
[14:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: you did not answer my question. is there a point in upgrading to 64 bit if your current system addresses all your ram
[14:53] <IHateHavingToReg> wouldn't quota take care of that for me?
[14:53] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: Not using 64bit just wastes resources, by leaving them unused.
[14:54] <quatar> Hello everyone. I have succesfully installed Ubuntu EFI alongside Win 8 EFI (secure boot working). THe GRUB entry for ubuntu works properly, thw ones for Windows do not (can't find image file etc). I ran Boot Repair (from inside ubuntu), now all my GRUB entries are different frome before but still Ubuntu works, Win 8 doesn't. What should i do?
[14:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: his only resources are 4gb ram, I just wanna save threex some trouble
[14:54] <toidinamai> Ok, so nobody cares that an ISO on an official mirror might be corrupted?
[14:54] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: And a 64bit capable CPU isnt a resource from your point of view?
[14:55] <mr_sausage> Hey does anybody here have experience with RAID?
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: true, but what benefit would it be?
[14:55] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: its better on big integer calculations like in encryption/decryption, media converts, grafical calculations. and alot of other stuff from task managment etc
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: this is my question.
[14:55] <bekks> mr_sausage: I bet someone does. Why dont you just ask what you really want to know?
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: k1l: so it can math better?
[14:55] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: if you are interessted go and read it. this is not really the topic in ubuntu support
[14:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> excellent!
[14:55] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: It outperforms a 32bit CPU in almost all uses cases.
[14:56] <mr_sausage> does anyone know to remove duff metadata from disks using dmraid?
[14:56] <IHateHavingToReg> Also is this the correct command to recursively compress all files in the games directory into a single gzip file? ~/test$ gzip -r games/*
[14:56] <linuxnoob> does anyone know how can i download xwinrap for my ubuntu 12.04?
[14:56] <streulma> hello, are there people that run Ubuntu on Mac, so yes, virtual or native?
[14:56] <bekks> mr_sausage: Whats "duff metadata"?
[14:56] <mr_sausage> bekks: disk has 2 types of metadata on it somehow.  one type is valid, the other is not
[14:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> and less you think I'm being contrary, I'm not. I am just genuinly curious about the benefits.
[14:56] <auronandace> !mac | streulma
[14:57] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: to explain every single advantage (like you are asking for it) would not suit into this support channel. that is a sidetopic
[14:57] <streulma> auronandace: that's not my question, the question is if I would do or not do, and how, I prefer virtual
[14:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: I'm done, lol. I did not want every benefit, just wanted to know if there was one.
[14:58] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: There are many.
[14:58] <mr_sausage> bekks: i have pdc mirror but one of the disks also has ddf1 metadata.  dmraid prefers the ddf1 metadata and ignores pdc so considers the mirror to be broken
[14:58] <auronandace> streulma: that page addresses exactly what your question was
[14:58] <streulma> auronandace: I know how to do it native, but don't want native
[14:58] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: let me tell you short: there is no reason not to take 64bit besides your hardware cant handle 64bit
[14:58] <compdoc> virtual would be best
[14:58] <bekks> mr_sausage: Whats "pdc mirror" and what are "ddf1 metadata"?
[14:59] <auronandace> streulma: what's wrong with using virtualbox then? there is no difference to how it works in windows
[14:59] <mr_sausage> bekks: pdc and ddf1 are both types of software RAID supported by dmraid
[14:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: alrighty. I was more thinking are there reasons to take 64, no not take it. opposite, like
[15:00] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: There are only disadvantages of not using 64bit, basically.
[15:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: gotcha.
[15:01] <SloarisBoy> 64 is the way to go if your hw supports it =)
[15:01] <vermilioner> The new one
[15:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> I went 64 even though I only had 4gb ram because I intended to upgrade ;D
[15:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> win$ is still in the dark ages on this, aren't they? eg 32 bit can only handle 4gb ram?
[15:02] <vermilioner> 能用中文么，，
[15:03] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: Without PAE, 32bot linux cant handle more, too.
[15:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> !zh | vermilioner
[15:03] <Mokilok> 32-bit can handle 4gb - address space. You get somewhere between 3.2 and 3.6 on average.
[15:03] <Mokilok> on Windows.
[15:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mokilok: yeah, I've seen that.
[15:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: oh so its not default?
[15:03] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: No.
[15:03] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: At least it wasnt.
[15:04] <mr_sausage> bekks: shall i go back to asking who knows about RAID?
[15:04] <k1l> toidinamai: ok i checked the image myself and the md5sum is corrupt. the http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/welcome.msg  states an email adress where you can submit that issue
[15:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: so you gotta get the pae kernel yourself, then, deleberatatly.
[15:04] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: The last time I used 32bit, was about in the 90s.
[15:04] <Phantom> Phantom
[15:04] <bekks> mr_sausage: No. Thats a meta question. I bet someone knows it. Just ask what you want to know.
[15:05] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: from 12.10 onwards 32bit kernels are pae enabled by default
[15:05] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: As far as I know, the default in 12.10 is PAE.
[15:05] <mr_sausage> bekks: i have but it seems rather pointless to ask if no-one in the room is an *expert* and as you can see, it's quite a detailed question
[15:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> mr_sausage: quite frankly I'm irritated enough to figure it out for you. you have 2 metadata, 1 is right, but cant get rid of of the wrong one.
[15:06] <mr_sausage> ntzrmtthuhu777: yes
[15:06] <bekks> mr_sausage: And because it is pointless, please dont ask wether someone knows about raid, but just ask your, detailed, question.
[15:06] <mr_sausage> ntzrmtthuhu777: i think i know how to remove the wrong metadata, but I could do with some guidance to ensure I don't trash my RAID set
[15:06] <bekks> mr_sausage: You should backup first then.
[15:07] <vermilioner> i am back
[15:07] <mr_sausage> bekks: yes - thanks for that
[15:09] <mr_sausage> bekks: it's a mirror so there is another copy, but i'd prefer not to have to rebuild because of a wrong command
[15:09] <vincentS> can i change linux A with ubuntu without reformating
[15:09] <bekks> vincentS: No.
[15:09] <auronandace> vincentS: no
[15:10] <vincentS> thank u
[15:10] <SloarisBoy> mr_sausage: you know which physical disk/partition the metadata is on?
[15:11] <mr_sausage> SloarisBoy: sda, sdb both have pdc metadata; sda also has ddf1 metadata
[15:11] <ronalds> how to make KDE accesible icon disappear from applet range?
[15:12] <mr_sausage> SloarisBoy: I want to remove the ddf1 metadata from sda... so I thought: dmraid -r -E -f ddf1 /dev/sda
[15:12] <SloarisBoy> right
[15:12] <SloarisBoy> and what occurred?
[15:12] <mr_sausage> i haven't run it yet... wanted a 2nd opinion
[15:13] <SloarisBoy> that seems right - atleast the -r -E portion if -f is the format metadata you want to delete that would seem correct also -
[15:13] <aleza84> accidentally when installing I installed grub on a windows partition, need to remove it, how can I do it
[15:13] <aleza84> ?
[15:14] <mr_sausage> ok... so here goes... wish me luck
[15:14] <dakotawulfy> aleza84 u can run the windows tool it should put it back
[15:14] <SloarisBoy> at the end of the day you have to rebuild from the good side of the mirror if it doesn't work -
[15:14] <k1l> aleza84: take the windows cd and use fixmbr
[15:14] <SloarisBoy> doesn't sound like a bad deal - especially if you have a backup of your data - and you indeed want the metadata gone - doit.
[15:15] <IHateHavingToReg> Also is this the correct command to recursively compress all files in the games directory into a single gzip file? ~/test$ gzip -r games/*
[15:15] <dakotawulfy> Yea that it
[15:15] <aleza84> dakotawulfy: what windows tool. I can't boot, I just pass bios, and then grub starts, I am at grub rescue prompt
[15:15] <dakotawulfy>  sorry dont use windows knew u could do it
[15:15] <linuxnoob0903> how to register here?
[15:15] <mr_sausage> Sloarisboy: nope.  Error seeking
[15:15] <k1l> aleza84: if you want to boot windows and ubuntu you need grub. windows bootloader only can load windows
[15:15] <dakotawulfy>  k1l said
[15:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ok, here is a question on the 32/64bit and 4gb ram. I have 64bit precise and 4gb ram, but it is listed as 2.9 gb, is there a way to increase this or is them the breaks?
[15:16] <mr_sausage> how do i get stderr into the pipe?  i'll pastebin the errors
[15:16] <SloarisBoy> mr_sausage: maybe it has issues being the two metadata are there and it's expecting to find one at some location on the disk where it's not
[15:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> !register | linuxnoob0903
[15:16] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: you videocard takes the rest of that ram
[15:16] <SloarisBoy> mr_sausage: 2>&1 after the command you need to redirect it on
[15:16] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: that is a bios /hardware issue. not a ubuntu issue
[15:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: ahhh, is that so. I thought my card had its own vram.
[15:17] <linuxnoob0903> !register | linuxnoob0903
[15:17] <mr_sausage> SloarisBoy: thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599152/
[15:17] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: vram is shared ram in most cases on mainboard video cards
[15:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> k1l: very interesting. I may have to take a dip into my bios later on today.
[15:18] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: did you actually press the y?
[15:18] <aleza84> k1l: I directed to install grub on a wrong disc, Its a simple win boot disc, I has grub, Need to get rid of it
[15:19] <mr_sausage> yes
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> hrmm
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> maybe you can try to manually zero it if you knew where to seek -
[15:21] <linuxnoob0903> how can i know if my registration is successful?
[15:21] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: Scary! I don't know where to seek.  I'm just reading that dmraid will block access to the raw devices... maybe I need to disable that and re-run my command
[15:22] <auronandace> linuxnoob0903: ask in #freenode
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxnoob0903: if you followed the instructions in the messege it was.
[15:22] <compuser> how do i install pfsense?
[15:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxnoob0903: and by your actions I doubt you did.
[15:23] <auronandace> compuser: isn't that a freebsd distro?
[15:23] <dakotawulfy> compuse pfsense is a system of it own
[15:23] <compuser> ok, so u install like a new OS. got it.
[15:24] <dakotawulfy> thats the whole system
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: try posting this output to pastebin 'sudo dmraid -tay'
[15:24] <dakotawulfy>  like on a seperate computer
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: yes i think thats also true
[15:25] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: Not pretty... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599169/
[15:26] <Lee-C> hi guys, just chasing a couple of tips.  im thinking of setting my main PC at home up as a
[15:26] <Lee-C> server.  The main reasons for wanting to do this are (1)monitor exactly what Internet
[15:26] <Lee-C> traffic is going in and out (including keeping track of website and browser history of all
[15:26] <Lee-C> machines o the network)  (2)network shares (which i want to access remotely) (3)media
[15:27] <FloodBot1> Lee-C: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <Lee-C> server. I'm not sure i want to go the whole hog
[15:27] <Lee-C> though and use Ubuntu server though as I'm not sure I'm 100% confident in my abilities to
[15:27] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: but it does demonstrate my problem... dmraid is preferring the ddf1 metadata and claiming sda for a non-existant raid set.  next, when it discovers pdc metadata on sdb it can't find the other half of the mirror and therefor thinks it's degrded
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: yes i see
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: output of 'sudo dmsetup ls' please
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: output of 'sudo dmsetup status' as well please
[15:29] <mr_sausage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599176/
[15:29] <mr_sausage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599178/
[15:30] <kiarespond> I have  a question about Onion(tor), can anyone help real quick?
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | kiarespond
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: try to suspend the ddf device
[15:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> kiarespond: but on that note I may be of some assistance
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: and see if you get a diff output from one of the failing commands you previously ran
[15:31] <kiarespond> ntzrmtthihu777, I am running Ubuntu and I do a "lsof -i" and tor is running. Does that mean anytime I connect to the internet it will be though tor?
[15:31] <redtape-renegade> OH Man I just trashedmy system .. I ran all the commands on this page for pdnsd [2nd one down].. but I have no internet now .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/22750/best-way-to-set-up-dns-caching
[15:31] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: suspend sda?
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: the pdc devices *seem to be there -
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> kiarespond: not sure. would that not be a good thing?
[15:32] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: suspend the ddf1_44656c6c202020201028001510281f0235e69547e81a389b
[15:32] <llutz> kiarespond: no, you have to tell your apps to use tor (socks proxy at port 9050)
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> kiarespond: I have ran tor in the past, and there are a few sites that do not allow access from the tor network
[15:32] <kiarespond> llutz, alright, thanks for the help
[15:32] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: How would I do that?  dmraid -an and then dmraid -ay -f pdc ??
[15:32] <kiarespond> ntzrmtthihu777, i am aware of that.
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> kiarespond: and with tor running I was able to access those sites through firefox
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> dmsetup suspend ddf1_44656c6c202020201028001510281f0235e69547e81a389b i would guess not quite sure
[15:33] <kiarespond> ntzrmtthihu777, that's because firefox is the best! thanks
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> sudo ofcourse
[15:34] <kiarespond> llutz, How would I go about setting that up? The socks proxy at port
[15:35] <llutz> kiarespond: depends on your apps. firefox has an option in network-settings for that (you either want to install torbutton if using ff)
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> i think ultimately if you want to cleanly remove it you can use dmsetup remove ddf1_44656c6c202020201028001510281f0235e69547e81a389b which should leave the two pdc metadata's from both pieces of your mirror - despite it may be marked dirty still
[15:35] <kiarespond> llutz, alright, thanks for the help
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> however the suspend may give a clue before the final action mr_sausage -
[15:36] <llutz> kiarespond: this might be interesting for you too https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy
[15:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> kiarespond: or just use the tor-browswer from their site. its a modded firefox to work seamlessly with tor
[15:37] <kiarespond> llutz, alright I'll look at it
[15:38] <llutz> kiarespond: just be warned, tor is slow. so if you route all your traffic through it, you have to be very patient....
[15:38] <redtape-renegade> Anyone see my question ^ 5 mins ago ???
[15:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> redtape-renegade: nope, whassup
[15:38] <kiarespond> llutz, ok.
[15:38] <redtape-renegade> OH Man I just trashedmy system .. I ran all the commands on this page for pdnsd [2nd one down].. but I have no internet now .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/22750/best-way-to-set-up-dns-caching
[15:38] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: OK.. suspend /dev/mapped/ddf1_... results in no output
[15:39] <kiarespond> llutz, But do I have to use the system proxy or manual proxy settings?
[15:39] <llutz> kiarespond: depends on what you want to do. if you just want to browse some sites via tor, just setup  your browser to use tor
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: more importantly would probably be the exit code unless you enabled some verbosity/debug
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: try a status command and see if it is suspended
[15:40] <mr_sausage> -vvv suspend shows status SUSPENDED
[15:41] <SolarisBoy> cool - try the other commands you were typing that got the bad output -
[15:42] <mr_sausage> still lots of bad output.  i'm going to go for the dmsetup remove
[15:42] <SolarisBoy> sounds like whats needed -
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> redtape-renegade: ubuntu does dns caching by default - afaik
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> it sets up dnsmasq to listen locally on port 53 and sets your resolver to localhost - it puts whatever you get from dhcp as your upstream dns in dnsmasq
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> if you removed it - maybe you broke that process of network manager setting it up - did you try to ping a public IP like 4.2.2.2 to confirm its not dns related
[15:45] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: Hmmm... doesn't look to have removed it. still got a node in /dev/mapper/ so I'm going to reboot
[15:45] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: ok
[15:45] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: see you when you get back
[15:46] <mr_sausage> different box
[15:46] <mr_sausage> still alive here :)
[15:46] <SolarisBoy> lol
[15:48] <IHateHavingToReg> I want to recursively spider a directory and compress all the files. However doing this command  gzip -r games/* >data07_09.gz  creates a file with 0 KB size. What am I doing wrong?
[15:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> IHateHavingToReg: get rid of the >
[15:48] <SolarisBoy> yea
[15:48] <mr_sausage> nope.  still there
[15:48] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: =(
[15:49] <SolarisBoy> i got nothing then - probably the dd would do it but like i said - assumes you know start/end of the metadata
[15:49] <mr_sausage> is there anyway to get dmraid to reveal where it found the metadata?
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> seems like its trying to int he first post you showed - but i can't confirm that
[15:50] <mr_sausage> Is this it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599236/
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> DDF1 Header at 0x866b5b8
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> seems to be
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> google around about using dd to delete it - cause i see a few entries anchor which seems to somehow point to the header(s)
[15:53] <mr_sausage> can I dump that out using dd to verify?  it seems that header value of 0xde11de11 should be easy to spot
[15:55] <SolarisBoy> sure
[15:56] <mr_sausage> :D Any idea how? ;)
[15:57] <IHateHavingToReg> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks, trying that now
[15:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> IHateHavingToReg: no prob.
[15:58] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: the arg seek=HeaderStartPoint would bring dd to that offset on the disk
[15:59] <mr_sausage> ok... i shall have a play
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> mr_sausage: be careful =)
[16:00] <mr_sausage> dd if= is the output, right? ;)
[16:00] <pilsa> histo, i have notoriously problems with downloading articles form websites. i want exactly that article including images for offline reading. no less, no more. however, scrapbook (firefox) doesnt do exactly what i want. any recommendations of ubuntu packages to perform the described task?
[16:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: wget -pk url will do you
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> wget mirror option?
[16:00] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, i try that, one moment
[16:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: wget is an awesome thing :)
[16:01] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: sure is =)
[16:02] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, however for downloading many articles a gui interface would be better.  so, i have a site with links to 20 articles and then i want to download those articles including te pictures.
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> if it's a JS site - you may have issues..
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> with whatever you use
[16:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: no, with a carefully executed wget you will have it all.
[16:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: I've done quite a few of these myself.
[16:03] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, ok
[16:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: the exact opposite is true, to download (or do anything repetative) en bulk cli is always the way to go.
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> pilsa: wget --mirror http://your.site.com/articles -o /home/me/articles.web
[16:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: could you direct me to the site
[16:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: or you could just do wget -m, no need for the long option.
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> i love long options for some reason
[16:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> wget -pkm then the rest.
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> feels more weighted down lol
[16:05] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, one moment,  i check out the wget man page ...
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> good idea.
[16:05] <pilsa> thx
[16:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: heh, I always go for least amount of keystrokes. besides using the one letter options makes me seem more a wizard to my windows-using associates.
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: zsh command complete is kick booty..
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> oh-my-zsh +1
[16:06] <IHateHavingToReg> ntzrmtthihu777 okay so I took out the > and just used gzip -r games/* data07_09.gz, however the data07_09.gz file is still empty. Any other suggestions?
[16:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: o rly
[16:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> IHateHavingToReg: :/ lemme try it on something.
[16:07] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: thats not how gzip works
[16:07] <bekks> IHateHavingToReg: You cant gzip a directory.
[16:07] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: gzip -r games/
[16:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> he wants the contents
[16:07] <bekks> IHateHavingToReg: tar cvzf data07_09.gz games/*
[16:07] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: that will compress EVERY SINGLE FILE in that dir
[16:07] <bekks> IHateHavingToReg: tar cvzf data07_09.tar.gz games/*
[16:07] <bekks> IHateHavingToReg: That will create a gzipped tar ball.
[16:07] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: you might want to use : tar -cjf backup.tar.bz games/
[16:08] <llutz> ups, bekks was faster
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: when i tab on -- i get all my options per line like '--force                     -- force overwrite' with ncurses like select menu - (oh-my-zsh) default - so in effect i never type the opts just select them most i type is --
[16:08] <meisth0th> hello
[16:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: interesting.
[16:08] <llutz> SolarisBoy: bash-completion does nearly the same
[16:08] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[16:08] <meisth0th> why isn't there alternate installer media images for 12.10?
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> llutz: very true and with tweaking exactly the same - but zsh's is way easier to enable
[16:09] <boxmein> :O
[16:09] <llutz> SolarisBoy: true
[16:09] <HelloWorld321> stupid question: who owns a symbolic link?  I just made one with ln -s ... to a directory that's owned by Mr. "HelloWorld321" and the link says that it is owned by Mr. "root"
[16:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: bash completion is default
[16:09] <llutz> HelloWorld321: the owner of the file the symlink links to
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: so it zsh
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: i will admin zsh default completion is horrid
[16:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> meisth0th: not a clue, its not there :/
[16:10] <SolarisBoy> *admit
[16:10] <boxmein> I've heard pretty shite things about wubi
[16:10] <dr_willis> alternative installer was discontinued for 12.10
[16:10] <boxmein> is wubi worth it
[16:10] <boxmein> :O
[16:10] <FloodBot1> boxmein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <dr_willis> boxmein:  i suggest avoiding wubi
[16:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: I thought you meant you have to turn on bash
[16:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> *completeion
[16:10] <boxmein> FloodBot1 please...
[16:10] <SolarisBoy> no - its there by default as long as you have bash-completion installed on most distro's
[16:10] <meisth0th> ntzrmtthihu777, does ubuntu-server have a lot of packages? i want to build my server from scratch
[16:10] <HelloWorld321> Is there a sensible chmod to make to a new soft link?  Right now, it shows as "lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root", which feels somewhat insecure?
[16:11] <llutz> !mini | meisth0th then you want to use this
[16:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: no, because if you ever decide to switch to a full ubuntu you cannot do this.
[16:11] <boxmein> ntzrmtthihu777: what do you mean by full ubuntu? What does wubi do differently?
[16:11] <dr_willis> there are ways to convert a wubi install to a real install.. sometimes they even work.... ;)
[16:11] <llutz> HelloWorld321: you cannot change ownership/permissions of a symlink, they inherit those from the source-sfile
[16:11] <boxmein> I'm just trying to avoid wasting a disk
[16:11] <meisth0th> llutz, that's the exact thing i want, thanks.
[16:11] <escott> HelloWorld321, the better way to think about symlink ownership is to realize that the symlink doesnt exist
[16:11] <dr_willis> boxmein:  wubi installs in a FILE on your windows drive.. it uses windows  to boot itself.
[16:11] <dr_willis> boxmein:  if windows dies.. your wubi can die also.
[16:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: its still taking hard drive space, may as well give it its own partition. plus who knows how windows fragmentation will affect it.
[16:12] <Fira> Hi Ubuntu guys.... I pluggued an IDE drive on an installed machine, it shows up in BIOS but i don't get an associated /dev/sdX :( ... I can't see anything in kernel logs either.. Is there something I'm supposed to modprobe or install to get proper IDE support :/ ,
[16:12] <boxmein> that makes sense
[16:12] <Fira> ?*
[16:12] <Fira> hdX*
[16:12] <dr_willis> Fira:  not really. its possible the hd is dead/semi-dead
[16:12] <escott> HelloWorld321, directory is a set of hard links to inodes. ie it is a table of pointers to the beginning of a file/directory. that file beginning has ownership information
[16:12] <dr_willis> Fira:  an ide drive will show up as /dev/sdX
[16:12] <Fira> dr_willis: i hope not, because i tried 3 of them <.<'
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> Fira: try executing fdisk and see if you get it there
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> Fira: sudo fdisk -l
[16:13] <escott> HelloWorld321, a symlink doesn't have an inode and just gets the path shoved into it, so there is nothing to own. you can manipulate the entry in the directory table or the target path
[16:13] <Fira> hahahahaha dr_willis that's my mistake i was looking for /dev/hda x.x'
[16:13] <Fira> thanky <.<
[16:13] <dr_willis> Fira:  Years ago there were hda.
[16:13] <boxmein> Next off, is getting to the tty from Gnome viable?
[16:13] <dr_willis> Fira:  use sudo blkid to scan for the disks
[16:13] <boxmein> I don't want to say possible because it's obviously possible
[16:13] <boxmein> but viable
[16:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: easily
[16:13] <SolarisBoy> boxmein: CTRL+A+F1
[16:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: ctrl+alt+f1
[16:14] <boxmein> Ah..
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> sorry - i meant alt =(
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> i use screen to much
[16:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: screen rox
[16:14] <llutz> escott: sure does a symlink have an inode
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: sure does =)
[16:15] <boxmein> Prepping my HDD for it then
[16:15] <escott> llutz, it will, but it acts like it doesnt
[16:15] <dr_willis> boxmein:  if all you need is a console.. use virtualbox and install lubuntu in it..
[16:15] <dr_willis> boxmein:  or a server install in vbox
[16:15] <boxmein> I have an arch system set up from zero in virtualbox already
[16:16] <boxmein> And an XP system next to it
[16:16] <dr_willis> boxmein:  so why are you messing with wubi?
[16:16] <boxmein> I considered it since I didn't want to waste a DVD, but I guess live installing is better.
[16:16] <escott> llutz, ie im saying there is no content in a symlink (its just a path) so it acts like it doesnt exist
[16:16] <boxmein> I wanted to know if it made sense to install via wubi
[16:16] <dr_willis> boxmein:  make a live usb...
[16:16] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, i have network trouble, i have to fix this first,     thanks
[16:17] <boxmein> dr_willis: I don't have a pen drive large enough
[16:17] <dr_willis> boxmein:  best is to avoid wubi if at all possible.
[16:17] <dr_willis> a minimal iso can fit on a rather small usb
[16:17] <dr_willis> you dont have a 2gb usb?
[16:17] <escott> HelloWorld321, to clarify im saying it acts like it doesnt have an inode, because it has no content
[16:17] <boxmein> I have a 2G and a 16G one with the 16G one storing data I am not keen to shuffle around
[16:18] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: dd if=/dev/sda of=/root/data skip=1953525167 count=1
[16:18] <boxmein> I have spare DVDs around so that isn't that large of a problem
[16:18] <mr_sausage> SolarisBoy: and it's gone :)
[16:18] <boxmein> Learning of the pros/cons of different opportunities was important to me
[16:19] <boxmein> To find out whether there was an easier yet equivalent way of doing ubuntu
[16:19] <boxmein> And I found out what I needed
[16:19] <dr_willis> wubis main pro is it uninstalls as a windows app does...
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: you know you don't need a dvd for ubuntu, a plain cd will work fine
[16:19] <dr_willis> everything else about is a con. ;)
[16:19] <dr_willis> 12.10+ needs a dvd for the desktop
[16:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: more reason to hate it then :/
[16:19] <boxmein> ntzrmtthihu777: I used DVD as a placeholder for the word disc as to not confuse it with disk/HDD
[16:20] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  yea.. we should all be locked down to a silly 700mb limit...  lets go back to floppys!
[16:20] <dr_willis> 8Track tapes. ;P
[16:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yes, lets become the bloated behemoth that is windows!
[16:20] <boxmein> Punched cards! :O
[16:20] <mr_sausage> i did this to erase the block: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 seek=1953525167 count=1
[16:20] <boxmein> >implying ubuntu isn't bloated for linux
[16:20] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  windows restore set here was 3 DVDS full..
[16:21] <dr_willis> bbl. off to da store.
[16:25] <hdwhite> Whenever I try to connect to a wireless network for the first time, it just shows it as "connecting", but it never fully connects.
[16:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: implying I was speaking of linux in general and not ubuntu
[16:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | hdwhite
[16:26] <boxmein> ...
[16:26] <boxmein> it's a bit mean isn't it
[16:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> boxmein: no, its efficent. premade message to get the point across quickly.
[16:27] <hdwhite> Um, I'm using Network Manager, and I have Ubuntu 12.04, I think?
[16:27] <hdwhite> I
[16:27] <hdwhite> I'm not sure what other details I can give
[16:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: what kind of machine you using.
[16:27] <hdwhite> A EEE Pc
[16:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: which one.
[16:27] <holstein> hdwhite: i would remove the passcode, try and see what is actually failing.. could be you have entered the password incorrectly
[16:28] <hdwhite> No, the passcode is correct
[16:28] <hdwhite> Seashell series?
[16:29] <hdwhite> I've typed and retyped the passcode for the current wireless network as well as other ones
[16:29] <boxmein> hdwhite: as precise as you can get would be best. It might be under your laptop or something
[16:29] <boxmein> 1005HA?
[16:30] <compdoc> is there a program that can display a quick assessment of the speed/capabilites of a cpu? Or maybe a good, small benchmark gui?
[16:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> compdoc: yes. software center should have one, I forget what mine is called.
[16:31] <hdwhite> I only see a Microsoft Certificate of Authenticity underneath the laptop
[16:31] <escott> compdoc, lscpu
[16:31] <compdoc> cool, I'll try that
[16:31] <boxmein> hdwhite: fair enough, it seems that the Seashell series is just one model anyways
[16:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: very strange, I had one and used lucid puppu linux on it no problem with wifi
[16:32] <hdwhite> I haven't had an issue with it until recently
[16:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: then you changed something.
[16:33] <hdwhite> I have no idea what that would be, though
[16:33] <rogier> Running of a USB stick at the moment. Will it be faster if i install to hard drive? It's a 5400 rpm laptop drive.
[16:34] <llutz> rogier: it should be faster, not much, but ..
[16:34] <dr_willis> rogier: yes
[16:34] <hdwhite> I can connect to my apartment and school WiFi without any problems, but I tried connecting to my parents' WiFi (and a neighbour's) for the first time and it's stuck on "Connecting"
[16:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: have you been able to connect to said networks with this machine before with the same setup?
[16:35] <hdwhite> Apparently, it's stuck on "getting IP configuration"
[16:35] <hdwhite> Yes
[16:35] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: are you in control of that network?
[16:36] <hdwhite> I am for the one at my parent's at the moment, though it seems to be more of an issue on my end
[16:36] <rogier> How can i add my liquid dispenser to ubuntu? It only has a winXP driver CD!
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: are other machines able to connect freely right now?
[16:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: whut?
[16:36] <hdwhite> Yes
[16:36] <rogier> Can i control my liquid dispenser with Ubuntu?
[16:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: what do you mean a liquid dispenser?
[16:37] <boxmein> being really extremist you probably can if you write your own drivers
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: finally i guess did it work before on that network for you?
[16:37] <hdwhite> Yes it did, a few months agoi
[16:37] <boxmein> but that's for non-lazy people,
[16:38] <rogier> While it's just like any old liquid dispenser accept it's controllable with a computer over USB. It worked fine under winXP but i don't get it to work under Ubuntu.
[16:38] <SolarisBoy> interesting - hdwhite are you using an existing profile for that wifi net or are you selecting it as a new network in nm?
[16:38] <boxmein> because ubuntu doesn't have drivers
[16:38] <boxmein> rogier: might you try running it via Wine
[16:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> rogier: again, what the hell are you talking about, liquid dispenser
[16:39] <hdwhite> I'm selecting it as a new network right now
[16:39] <rogier> It does not dispense wine.
[16:39] <SolarisBoy> they have automated liquid dispensers in the google office bathrooms. like that?
[16:39]  * ntzrmtthihu777 facedesks
[16:39] <boxmein> Wine is a program that runs windows stuff on linux
[16:39] <boxmein> it does only stuff to some extent
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> when it comes to emulating hardware - especially proprietary stuff it's probably not going to cut it @wine
[16:40] <rogier> Why would one want a liquid dispenser in the Bathroom? It seems like a strange place to get drunk. Especially in the office.
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> if the device is generic with a generic interface start by plugging it in and seeing what it's recognized as
[16:40] <boxmein> rogier: he means a soap dispenser
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> rogier: it dispenses soap...
[16:41] <boxmein> I think -he- means some sort of multi liquid self service tower
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> who's liquour comes from a dispenser and not a glass bottle anyway.
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> weird
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> beer maybe...
[16:41] <boxmein> http://www.chennaiimports.com/images/juice_dispenser_4tanks.jpg
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu doesn't dispense liquor lol
[16:42] <DJones> !ot
[16:42] <boxmein> but that'd be a major selling point
[16:42] <rogier> I mean the little machine that you connect to several liquor bottles. Then there is the long tube you hold in you mouth and then on the computer you choice what kind and how much liquor you want. And then it gets pumped into your mouth. So that you dont have to get up while gaming and things.
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> i figured that was common
[16:42] <boxmein> rogier: seriously :O
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> lol
[16:42] <rogier> But the driver cd is only for windows. This would be a dealbraker if it don't work
[16:42] <boxmein> There's this thing
[16:42] <boxmein> They call it a cup
[16:42]  * ntzrmtthihu777 double facedesks
[16:42] <boxmein> It might sound mind blowing
[16:42] <boxmein> bu
[16:43] <boxmein> it holds liquor
[16:43] <llutz> its weekend ... trolls all around ...
[16:43] <rogier> Yes i have cups to but i like the dispencer more.
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> that guys fixing to kick bounce you guys if you don't start talking ubuntu and now!
[16:43]  * SolarisBoy we're all dead!!
[16:43] <compdoc> now I know why ntzrmtthihu777 is that way - too many facedesks
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> flat face
[16:43] <boxmein> rogier: might want to get VirtualBox for a Windows XP virtual machine to run your liquor dispenser for you
[16:44] <DJones> rogier: boxmein If you want to carry on the conversation, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:44]  * ntzrmtthihu777 cannot believe this is being entertained.
[16:44] <rogier> PLease just let me troll.
[16:44] <boxmein> It's a topic to discuss!
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> what if someone pauses the VM while it's dispensing... whats the exit strategy?
[16:44] <Guest4980> ciao
[16:44] <boxmein> SolarisBoy: A hell of a night
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> drunkOnExit()
[16:44] <IdleOne> Please stop with the off topic
[16:45] <rogier> I  laghing out oud fuck finished the whole bottle of whiskey
[16:45] <Guest4980> !list
[16:45]  * ntzrmtthihu777 notes that he is not part of this discssion.
[16:45] <mjayk> does anyone have a good alternitive to GNU plot ?
[16:46] <hdwhite> Would reinstalling Network-Manager help at all?
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: thats probably over kill
[16:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> hdwhite: and you may strand yourself.
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: maybe restart network-manager or take a peak at iwevent to see if anything odd is occuring between you authentication to the AP and requesting an IP
[16:48] <sigg3> hello!
[16:48] <mjayk> Hello!
[16:48] <sigg3> I have an installation question. Any takers?
[16:49] <boxmein> Fire at the channel
[16:49]  * canihojr re
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: you should actually be able to run 'sudo dhclient wlan0' interface assuming you auth'd properly via network-manager - and possibly an error will result which is more clear from the terminal
[16:49] <hdwhite> The last think iwevent spits out is "New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated"
[16:49] <sigg3> Is it sufficient to just dd the ISO image to an USB stick to create a live usb to install ubuntu from?
[16:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | sig
[16:50] <afflicto-laptop> Hey all. I have a laptop, I just installed windows 7 and I created 3 partitions. 150gb where I installed win 7, 270gb for storage and 50gb for ubuntu, but ubuntu doesn't allow me to "install alongside windows".. why?
[16:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | sigg3
[16:50] <IdleOne> sigg3: yes
[16:50] <llutz> sigg3: yes
[16:50] <sigg3> Thanks!
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: it really depends on when it spits that out - long story short if your IP layer is hanging - what do you have it configured to do dhcp or a static IP?
[16:50] <hdwhite> Right now, DHCP
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: if it's doing dhcp which it probably is - it indicates a problem elsewhere - if you say other machines work and not yours - perhaps there is a stale lease or something very common of those home routers people - have - which all points at trying to reboot the router and then trying back
[16:51] <hdwhite> I might give that a shot, though I'd be surprised if it's on their end
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: have you tried the 'sudo dhclient wlan0' ?
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: you can also try this to confirm - switch to static and use an unused ip and re-connect to that wifi net
[16:54] <hdwhite> It doesn't spit out anything
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> ok fine - try and switch to a static IP you know is unused and on that wireless network range - and reconnect
[16:54] <hdwhite> Actually, looking at the iwevent output, it gives out an access point/cell address, but then 45 seconds later, it says it's not associated
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> sounds like you need to check the router
[16:55] <thrope> hi all  - just did an update on 12.04 and now dbus can't start X… I am using xbmc and usually use "xbmc-standalone -- -layout LayoutTV
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> or maybe that at the worst case your driver doesn't like whatver access method is enabled - which is another cause of that off/on never connected thingy afaik
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> -- but you said it worked at one point.
[16:55] <thrope> I get the following error: * (FEH.py:3064): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch -- utolaunch=1e3f82181774c2cda0a965cd000002d5 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[16:55] <thrope> Error: unable to open display
[16:56] <thrope> FEH.py: cannot connect to X server
[16:56] <thrope> but if I do xinit xbmc-standalone -- -layout "LayoutTV" it works fine
[16:56] <hdwhite> How would I do that with Network Manager? It seems to want me to put in a Gateway, a Netmask, a DNS Server, and a Search domain
[16:56] <thrope> so I think it is a ubuntu / dbus problem not an xbmc problem
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: yea - thats a static conf
[16:56] <thrope> how can I figure out why the dbus-launch is failing?
[16:57] <hdwhite> What should I put in for all that stuff?
[16:58] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: gateway is generally the IP of the AP people put as the .1 addy on their network as a general thing but it doesn't have to be - netmask's tend to be /24 on home netorks - doesn't have to be - dns server generally is provided by your ISP and in some cases folks behind nat routers use their nat router as the dns resolver - search domain generally isn't needed unless you are on your own .domain and constantly contacting other m
[16:58] <SolarisBoy> hdwhite: all to say - go on another working machine be it windows/linux and do ipconfig/ifconfig respectively to get an idea of your network if you dont know now.
[17:00] <skulltip> morning, what's the best 10"+ tablet for ubuntu?
[17:00] <rogier> My computer caught on fire. What should i do? I already put a glass of beer over it, didn't help.
[17:00] <holstein> !ot | rogier try the ot channel or a hardware channel
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> skulltip: i like the bamboo
[17:01] <skulltip> sorry SolarisBoy, I meant a (pc) tablet
[17:01] <holstein> SolarisBoy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic and continue, please :)
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> why would you tell me too?
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> generally you tell the source of the issue too - not the person asnwering the question - or atleast afaik - but im sorry i said 'i like the bamboo'
[17:02] <hdwhite_> Hmm, ipconfig doesn't list a DNS server
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> this is one of those situations where im scared to even talk -
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> sorry ill say nothing (/all)
[17:03] <holstein> SolarisBoy: dont be scared, just invite the users to /join you in the ot channel for ot chat.. no worries
[17:03] <SolarisBoy> ok..
[17:03] <slide> Does anyone know of a good guide for full disk encruption setup of a new drive and not a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[17:04] <rogier> no one is talking on the off topic channel.
[17:04] <boxmein> rogier: <3
[17:05] <skulltip> is it the nexus 10 that is compatible?
[17:05] <hdwhite> Oh hey, manually setting it up worked!
[17:05] <hdwhite> Thanks guys
[17:06] <pilsa> ntzrmtthihu777, i finally made it, using your help and these instructions
[17:06] <boxmein> slide: truecrypt?
[17:06] <pilsa> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
[17:06] <pilsa> thanks
[17:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: what was it again you were doing?
[17:06] <boxmein> pilsa: "wget -m site"
[17:06] <pilsa> downloading multiple links
[17:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> pilsa: ah yeah.
[17:06] <pilsa> with images
[17:06] <slide> boxmein, i was thinking of ubuntus 'FDE' (Full Disk Encryption) stuff though im not 100% sure whats best
[17:07] <boxmein> slide: hmm I'd suggest TrueCrypt but suit yourself
[17:07] <slide> i do like truecrypts plausible deniability partition thing heh
[17:07] <slide> boxmein, know of a good guide for it then?
[17:07] <pilsa> boxmein, ok i might try -m ... but i dont want all the other crap on that page
[17:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> man what are folk so afraid of, gotta encrypt everyting an get locked out like toke the other day\
[17:07] <slide> i wish truecrypt were oss
[17:07] <pilsa> anyway
[17:07] <boxmein> $google setting up truecrypt for new hdd
[17:07] <pilsa> i worked
[17:07] <boxmein> pilsa: hmm you might be able to filter by content typ
[17:07] <HelloWorld321> tx escott, llutz
[17:08] <pilsa> boxmein, alright
[17:08] <slide> hrm is it oss?
[17:08] <pilsa> thanks to everybody, good bye
[17:10] <sidvee> my wifi tries connecting to a network only to fail and reconnect after timeout. There was these two commands which I found long back which used to fix the issue. It used to delete a file or something. I formatted system and now I can't find it.
[17:10] <Ulisse_> !vhost
[17:12] <ioria> sidvww: maybe wifikill
[17:13] <sidvee> my wifi tries connecting to a network only to fail and reconnect after timeout. There was these two commands which I found long back which used to fix the issue. It used to delete a file or something. I formatted system and now I can't find it.
[17:14] <Nach0z> sidvee: maybe /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:15] <sidvee> Nach0z: Lemme check.
[17:15] <sidvee> Nach0z: It was something like iwlwl or something.
[17:16] <sharif> help me
[17:16] <rogier> sharif: with wat?
[17:17] <sharif> Could not initialize the package information
[17:18] <sharif> and my softwer sources not open
[17:18] <sharif> help me
[17:18] <sharif> @rogier
[17:19] <sharif> Could not initialize the package information any on help me
[17:20] <jman074> hello ladies and gentlemen
[17:21] <jman074> need to make my computer recognize a multimedia device
[17:21] <Datz> hi, I'm having a problem with my screen where multiple desktops are displayed in one. http://i47.tinypic.com/s60f4j.png
[17:22] <alexei_naumov>  /msg NickServ
[17:22] <Datz> I'd like to reset the catalyst control center if possible
[17:23] <Datz> I've already tried to rename xorg.conf to something else, which worked until I logged in.
[17:24] <phaidros> I have loaded the firmware for my dvb-t device, but which tool do I use to tune?
[17:24] <bekks> phaidros: kaffeine
[17:25] <phaidros> bekks: in unity? (kaffeine is kde, right? lotsa megabytes in libraries just for one app makes no sense ..)
[17:25] <llutz> phaidros: or vlc, mplayer
[17:25] <phaidros> llutz: vlc didn't offer the device
[17:25] <phaidros> hm, man mplayer :)
[17:25] <bekks> phaidros: space isnt expensive nowadays. And kaffeine is the most convinient tool for watching dvbt
[17:26] <phaidros> bekks: space is relevant  on SSDs still ;)
[17:26] <phaidros> bekks: but thanks, as it looks I'll give it a shot
[17:27]  * boxmein installs
[17:27] <gabkdlly> phaidros, I like me-tv
[17:27] <bekks> phaidros: Basically - no. Casual sizes are about 128G, so using a few hundert MB for a full blown KDE are hardly noticable. And even less noticable - a few MB for a few libs.
[17:27] <phaidros> gabkdlly: thx, trying that too :)
[17:28] <fast> ciao
[17:28] <fast> list
[17:29] <phaidros> bekks: then again, everyone has different priorities in such things, I personally don't like to use overproportional space for just one app, as well as loading all that kde libs for "just" a tv player sounds not very sensible. then again, if it is the best option, one might consider that. to be honest, my 128gb SSD is always close to full ..
[17:29] <jman074> need help making my computer recognize a multimedia device
[17:29] <llutz> phaidros: well, get a 250GB then :)
[17:30] <bekks> phaidros: Mine is close to empty - all data are on other HDD, the SSD is for the OS only.
[17:30] <molensis> help, how can i register a nickname?
[17:30] <llutz> !register | molensis
[17:31] <phaidros> bekks: not very useful if one operates only with laptops, but hey, it is just personal tast, and yes the 256gig one is on the wish list .. as soon as I paid all taxes, that is the nixt thing
[17:31] <molensis> !register | molensis
[17:31] <phaidros> and yes, one should have a NAS or other storage :)
[17:31] <philipp__> hi
[17:31] <phaidros> I do, tho, ideal world in daily usage is different :)
[17:32] <llutz> molensis: you'd read what ubottu told you, not repeat the trigger
[17:32] <Afal> On this week's universes most hated: icedtea-6-jre-cacao and icedtea-6-jre-jamvm for literally stopping me from installing anything with apt-get
[17:32] <phaidros> :D
[17:33] <Ludlow> hows 13.04 coming along?
[17:33] <holstein> Ludlow: /join #ubuntu+1
[17:33] <TheLordOfTime> !ubuntu+! | Ludlow
[17:33] <TheLordOfTime> oops
[17:33] <Ludlow> ok
[17:33] <TheLordOfTime> but yeah, /join #ubuntu+1 Ludlow
[17:33] <cam`> when i'm logged into my account there's no battery icon on my top bar but on the login screen and guest account it's there
[17:33] <FloodBot1> TheLordOfTime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <Ludlow> ok
[17:35] <tony_lech> I got my server to start a service/daemon on boot. can i get it to issue a stop on reboot/shutdown? otherwise the pid file sits out there
[17:36] <Ludlow> is anyone having issues with kernel 3.7 and core-dual cpu's?
[17:36] <bekks> Ludlow: Me doesnt.
[17:36] <escott> Ludlow, i suspect that youa re
[17:36] <esing> hello
[17:36] <Ludlow> hmm strange
[17:37] <esing> should I mount my root partition also with rw,noatime and nodiratime  if i use an ssd?
[17:37] <llutz> esing: yes
[17:37] <esing> llutz, thanks
[17:37] <escott> esing, if you dont want atime its best to disable it on virtually all devices
[17:39] <esing> Hm, ubuntu installation already created a home folder but I have an older home folder from my previous linux distru; should I remove the current /home folder in ubuntu first before mounting the old /home
[17:39] <molensis> are there no c++ or g++ compilers installed in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:39] <holstein> esing: i would backup both, and just try it
[17:39] <esing> holstein, good idea , thanks
[17:39] <escott> !info build-essential | molensis
[17:42] <jamescarr> Hi there… I am trying to understand why I cannot get libmysqlclient18 on 12.04 to be installed with ssl support
[17:42] <jamescarr> any ideas?
[17:42] <Afal> Can someone help? icedtea-6-jre-cacao and icedtea-6-jre-jamvm are blocking me from installing/updating/doing-anything with apt-get and i'm getting to the point where I feel like I need to explain my situation with an xkcd comic AND THAT IS UNNACCEPTABLE
[17:42] <molensis> are there no c++ or g++ compilers installed in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> molensis, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:43] <TheLordOfTime> molensis, while that will install a bunch of build libraries, it WILL install gcc and g++ compilers
[17:43] <jamescarr> molensis: build-essentials
[17:43] <molensis> thanks, just curious, are escott and ubottu ai?
[17:44] <jamescarr> escott: hmm
[17:44] <llutz> ubottu is for sure, escott ... :)
[17:44] <llutz> how would i
[17:46] <cam`> i have the indicator-power package installed but no battery indicator still
[17:47] <lolzguy> Hey, need help with my Ubuntu system. Nothing seems to respond when I log in. No window borders or unity launcher. Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599520/
[17:49] <jamescarr> so I guess I should just not use libmysqlclient-dev and just make it myself
[17:49] <jamescarr> since the package will not give me ssl support
[17:49] <jamescarr> dammit
[17:51] <mshake> i made the /boot partion 50 gigs i want to resize it and make it smaller  without breaking ubuntu what is the recomende size for /boot ext4 ? should i do it uisng gparted on running machine or live disck ?
[17:51] <Kroach> will it be possible to have nautilus 3.4 in Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:54] <mshake> !partion
[17:54] <mshake> !/boot
[17:55] <jamescarr> who maintains libmysqlclient-dev ? I'm just going to reach out to him
[17:55] <jamescarr> or her
[17:55] <Datz> Hi, how can I wipe all changes to my catalyst control center config and start with a new one?
[17:59] <bekks> 1
[18:00] <mshake> ??
[18:00] <bekks> mshake: 256M
[18:00] <mshake> i made it 10 gigs
[18:00] <bekks> Thats wasting more than 9.5G
[18:01] <mshake> 1 gig is enough ??? anyway i want the remaining 45 gigs to be add to  the extended partion but it seems that i can using a running system
[18:02] <bekks> mshake: 256M is enough. 1G is wasting 768M.
[18:03] <mshake> but how i can expand the  /  partion ?
[18:03] <bekks> mshake: You have to use a live cd.
[18:07] <llutz> bekks: " wasting 768M." wasn't i you a few minutes ago, saying " space isnt expensive nowadays."? so who cares
[18:08] <mshake> ok if i don't want to use a live disk how can i make a second partion  Like (d) in windows
[18:08] <escott> mshake, you cant
[18:08] <bekks> llutz: Deliberaty just wasting something is different from being concerned of using just a few more space.
[18:08] <escott> mshake, unless you have some unallocated space you cannot resize active partitions
[18:09] <mshake> i have 50 unlocated
[18:10] <escott> mshake, then just create a partition with gparted
[18:10] <mshake> i did but how can i start using it  xD
[18:10] <escott> mshake, you mount it. where is up to you
[18:10] <jamescarr> escott: I like that someone asked if you were a bot
[18:10] <jamescarr> that's so amusing :)
[18:10] <escott> !fstab | mshake
[18:12] <mshake> facepalm   i will just use a live disk
[18:12] <mshake> thanks
[18:15] <Arbok> Hey, how do I maake it so I have no problems with file permissions? I have a game folder I copied from my external drive on here, but I think there is permission problems
[18:15] <escott> !permissions | Arbok
[18:15] <Arbok> !permissions
[18:16] <Arbok> Oh
[18:16] <escott> Arbok, generally if you are copying from ntfs or fat the files will have the wrong permission. similarly if you copy from ext4 as a user but dont use sudo cp -a you will get incorrect permissions
[18:16] <Datz> Hi, I'm getting three open tabs for every window open for gnome session fallback
[18:16] <Datz> how can I get it down to one?
[18:16] <Arbok> So is there a quick way to change permissions for an entire folder so it will run in WINE?
[18:17] <escott> Arbok, yes but you need to know what the permissions need to be first
[18:17] <maesrin> Hello guys , is there a way to connect to a second vpn server when i am already connected to another, with network manager ?
[18:18] <Arbok> Yeah, I was using chmod, but I couldn't frind the right permission
[18:19] <shwaiil> hi
[18:20] <Arbok> What are the correct permissions I need?
[18:20] <kapz> Hi I need help with networking in ubuntu 12.10. After an update my wifi connection does not complete, it asks for passcode continuously
[18:20] <shwaiil> Q: I think my Ubunu 12.04 is corrupted. Bad HDD a few weeks ago, and my user account had missing device drivers etc. Created a new one since then, but I-m still finding some issues, like the webcam not avail. What should I do ? Thank you!
[18:21] <escott> Arbok, how would we know?
[18:21] <escott> shwaiil, have you checked the smart status of your disks with gnome-disks?
[18:22] <Arbok> escott:Oh, I assumed there would be a default setting that would work
[18:23] <escott> Arbok, the reason we have permissions is because there isn't one single permission that works for all files.
[18:23] <escott> !details | Arbok
[18:28] <Arbok> Escott: Oh, sorry. I am running Ubuntu 12.04, not dualbooting. When I try to run WoW(installed on a wind7 machine and transferred over, either I get stuck at the launcher updater or wine just quits
[18:30] <Hawkerz> hmmmmmm, can anyone supply some up-to-date information on how I should trim my ssd
[18:30] <escott> Hawkerz, carefully
[18:30] <Hawkerz> escott, discard? or fstrim? or neither?
[18:31] <escott> Hawkerz, the mount option "discard" uses ATA TRIM as part of normal operation, fstrim is something that happens outside of normal operation
[18:32] <Hawkerz> yeah, so I suppose the question is: are the two mutually exclusive (or at least interchangeable?)
[18:32] <martinFo> anyone knows how to get run ati 4650 on u 12.04 lts , pls
[18:32] <Datz> Hi, for every window, at the bottom panel I see three tabs for each. How can I prevent this?
[18:32] <escott> Hawkerz, you can use both
[18:33] <mjayk> Datz: what DE and OS are you using ?
[18:33] <escott> Hawkerz, a use case for fstrim would be if you were repartitioning
[18:33] <Datz> mjayk: it
[18:33] <_T> dcc
[18:33] <Hawkerz> escott, is it necessary? I just read something about discard causing serious performance hits -- I suppose I'm overthinking it for my desktop machine but is there a best practice for day to day usage?
[18:33] <mjayk> Datz: Not heard of that one :)
[18:33] <escott> Hawkerz, that is something that very much depends on your hardware
[18:34] <Datz> mjayk: it's gnome classic "gnome session fallback" and 12.04
[18:34] <Hawkerz> I am not repartitioning, but a separate article advocated absolutely not using discard and instead putting fstrim in a daily cron
[18:34] <escott> Arbok, thats not at all helpful details
[18:34] <Datz> mjayk: haha, very funny :p
[18:34] <escott> Hawkerz, which would be good advice for some hardware
[18:35] <Hawkerz> so, which factors on the hardware side are in play?
[18:35] <dixoncx> CDMA usb modem problem. Can't connect with network-manager. Works with wvdial. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5599692/
[18:35] <escott> Hawkerz, how fast it can trim :)
[18:35] <Datz> mjayk: it seems that my three monitors I have hooked up put everything onto one desktop
[18:35] <Datz> I've managed to remove the extra panels, but now the tabs I'm unsure of
[18:36] <Hawkerz> escott, no clue -- I just ran fstrim for the first time in my entire life a few hours ago
[18:36] <Datz> I'm only using one monitor though - mjayk
[18:36] <wannado> hey - I have a non-pae cpu and downloaded the mini.iso as described as a workaround. now, when trying to put this iso on a usb I can't select it. When ever selected from file menu dialog the upper field keeps staying empty - what could i do?
[18:36] <Hawkerz> it took quite awhile, but there it is I suppose
[18:36] <escott> Hawkerz, welcome to the wild world of SSDs :)
[18:36] <Datz> wannado: what cpu is that?
[18:36] <Datz> PII?
[18:36] <Hawkerz> so is there any strategy behind figuring this out? or just kind of, try things and see if I experience performance degradation?
[18:37] <wannado> Datz, I suppose  - it is an old thinkpad
[18:37] <escott> Hawkerz, it depends on how the firmware is implemented, i would be very skittish about using something like fstrim
[18:37] <Datz> wannado: Ah ok just curious
[18:37] <Hawkerz> hmmkay, but you would be more comfortable with discard?
[18:37] <kapz> Hi I need help with networking in ubuntu 12.10. After an update my wifi connection does not complete, it asks for passcode continuously!
[18:37] <Datz> mjayk: I guess I'll just try to remove and readd the panel again
[18:38] <wannado> Datz, actually it is a Pentium M
[18:38] <escott> Hawkerz, you can run benchmarks or look for benchmarks online. newer firmwares have gotten better with ATA TRIM as more people use discard and stress the TRIM mechanisms with small discards
[18:38] <Hawkerz> interesting
[18:39] <Hawkerz> final question -- is it actually worthwhile to mount swap with noatime?
[18:40] <escott> Hawkerz, the reason i trust discard over trim is that discard trims individual blocks as they are deleted by the VFS layer. fstrim has to read and parse an active filesystem to identify blocks that can be trimmed. there is a risk that it identifies a block to trim and then a new write allocates that block. i dont know how they can prevent that
[18:40] <escott> Hawkerz, swap doesnt use atim?
[18:40] <Hawkerz> yeah, I found the advice pretty puzzling
[18:41] <Datz> mjayk: looks like removing and readdijng the panel worked. I see what the problem is now. The windows list applet was also added three times
[18:41] <kapz> meh....fuck IRC
[18:41] <Hawkerz> escott, reference: http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization#Mounting_SSD_with_noatime_and_discard_options_etc.
[18:41] <Datz> wannado: ok, I just couldn't think of the last cpu without pae
[18:41] <escott> Hawkerz, with some older firmwares trim took the firmware a long time to complete and stressed the firmware, so a single bulk trim from fstrim at midnight was better than forcing the firmware to continually discard
[18:41] <Hawkerz> hmmm I actually meant discard, not noatime
[18:42] <Hawkerz> but discard as a mount option leverages the firmware properly?
[18:42] <escott> Hawkerz, discard and noatime is what i use
[18:42] <maesrin> Hello guys , is there a way to connect to a second vpn server when i am already connected to another, with network manager ?
[18:43] <escott> Hawkerz, ATA TRIM is the hardware command. both discard and fstrim use ATA TRIM
[18:43] <Hawkerz> escott, cool, I'll give that a shot...have you found it necessary to store um...what seems like everything under the sun in tmpfs ?
[18:43] <Hawkerz> on ram
[18:43] <Hawkerz> in*
[18:44] <escott> Hawkerz, well nothing gets permanently stored in tmpfs, but if you have the RAM its the fastest filesystem for temporary usage
[18:45] <mr_sausage> Hello.  How can I find out what the "correct" logical-block (LBA) size is for my 3TB disk?
[18:45] <Hawkerz> yeah, just wondering how crazy to go with it...
[18:46] <escott> mr_sausage, it is probably a 4k disk pretending to be 512b
[18:46] <kiyoura> sorry everyone
[18:46] <mr_sausage> escott: it's a 4k disk for sure and dmesg shows it as 4kib physical/512b logical
[18:47] <Hawkerz> escott, thanks a lot for the input, the internet was leading me astray :)
[18:47] <mr_sausage> escott: my question really is, is 512-byte logical correct?
[18:48] <escott> mr_sausage, that is how you address it yes. the fact that is in fact a 4k is a fact needed to be properly aligned for best performance
[18:49] <yigal> Does xsetwacom on a wacom intuos5 in Ubuntu fully work?
[18:50] <mr_sausage> escott: indeed. my problem is that when i boot into windows, it's using 1024-byte LBA and not 512-byte.  Hence the question - which OS is reporting the LBA correctly?
[18:50] <mr_sausage> LBA size*
[18:50] <escott> mr_sausage, i have never heard of a 1024b block size
[18:50] <Guest81324> hello huys
[18:50] <Guest81324> guys*
[18:51] <Hawkerz> when you have information coming from windows as well as linux, you should probably assume windows is lying
[18:51] <escott> mr_sausage, windows has been the main reason everything pretends to be 512b because old versions of windows don't even know how to work with anything that isnt 512b
[18:52] <mr_sausage> I've not found any evidence of linux reporting 1024-byte for this drive either but that doesn't prove that linux is using the correct value.
[18:52] <escott> mr_sausage, are you confusing filesystem block size with disk block size?
[18:52] <mr_sausage> no
[18:52] <SunStar> have you googled the model number to find technical specs?
[18:53] <escott> mr_sausage, i dont know where linux gets the data that it is 4kb
[18:53] <Guest81324> i am new linux user so tell me more about it ;)
[18:53] <Kain_> hi all
[18:54] <mr_sausage> so gdisk on windows is telling me 1024/4096 logical/physical
[18:54] <Guest81324> hey kain
[18:54] <Kain_> I am new at Linux
[18:54] <SunStar> Guest81324, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:54] <Guest81324> me too kain!
[18:54] <mr_sausage> gdisk on linux is telling me 512/4096
[18:54] <mr_sausage> both report the correct disk size
[18:54] <Kain_> haha, really cool though.
[18:54] <mr_sausage> but linux sees twice the number of LBA blocks
[18:54] <escott> mr_sausage, perhaps the firmware of the disk has some weird way to tell the OS a different size if it recognizes the OS can support a different size
[18:54] <Guest81324> well its ok-ok tho
[18:55] <Kain_> It's just that my windowy mind doesn't quite get all the linux stuff yet
[18:55] <escott> mr_sausage, perhaps newer versions of windows can support 1024 and so the firmware tells windows 1024 if it sees that version of windows. they probably dont bother to test that with linux and just report 512 in all cases
[18:55] <Guest81324> what kind of linux do u have?
[18:55] <bazhang> !manual | Kain_ Guest81324 have a read
[18:56] <bazhang> !rute | Guest81324 Kain_ and these links too
[18:56] <mr_sausage> The problem for me is that with the difference in LBA size between the 2 OS, the GPT is written in the wrong place on the disk - either at LBA2 for a Windows written GPT viewed in linux or LBA0.5 for a linux written GPT viewed in Windows.  The correct block for GPT is LBA1!!
[18:56] <bazhang> Guest81324, this is Ubuntu support, not chit chat. try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:57] <escott> mr_sausage, aint it sweet when your hardware starts lying to you
[18:57] <Guest81324> ohh sorry :)
[18:57] <Kain_> ubottu thanks, nicely pre-emted my question :)
[18:57] <mr_sausage> escott: something is lying but i'm not sure what, or who to!!!
[18:58] <escott> mr_sausage, well 1kb logical blocks are not even supported on windows at all according to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh848035%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[18:58] <SunStar> mr_sausage,  have you googled the model number to find technical specs?
[18:59] <mr_sausage> SunStar: I'm just doing that now...
[19:02] <mr_sausage> Seagate's website could be a lot better organised!
[19:05] <preyalone> I like to start little web servers on boot. I've been using upstart, but often my scripts fail, causing important services like sshd to fail to start. What's a safer way to do this?
[19:05] <auronandace> !upstart | preyalone
[19:07] <ePax> Is there a simple soultion for alt+tab problem in gnome classic x64, ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[19:08] <bekks> ePax: Which problem?
[19:09] <ePax> bekks, alt+tab is not working.
[19:11] <mr_sausage> SunStar, escott: it's definitely a 4k format disk.  Interesting that Windows is using an unsupported size for the LBA.  I think that answers the question: the correct size is either 512 or 4096 so 1024 must be wrong
[19:11] <mr_sausage> Can I make linux use 4K LBA?
[19:12] <escott> mr_sausage, well you are starting to see some of the difficulties with making a unilateral decision like that :)
[19:12] <mr_sausage> sure, it will break everyone's GPT!
[19:13] <escott> mr_sausage, the linux VFS has no fixed block size and could use 4kb, but it has to be in sync with your windows, so for that reason the switch hasn't been made
[19:13] <mr_sausage> is it a kernel option or something like that?
[19:14] <mr_sausage> right now i have to convince windows to use something other than 1024.... 4k seems like the modern choice!
[19:14] <mr_sausage> so if I can convince linux to use 4k too... happy days!
[19:14] <Controlsfreek> rsync -v....  "connection error." Gee, thanks for the verbose diagnostics
[19:14] <escott> mr_sausage, there are two older articles on this http://lwn.net/Articles/377895/ and http://lwn.net/Articles/322777/
[19:14] <escott> mr_sausage, i would try to get your hardware to just stop lying and report 512b to both
[19:15] <mr_sausage> but surey 512 is a lie too! ;)
[19:15] <escott> mr_sausage, or just return the piece of junk because no firmware author should be so stupid as to report 1kb
[19:15] <escott> 512 is a lie that everyone expects so its the best supported lie
[19:16] <hiho> hi
[19:16] <rza_> hey folks, following a postgresql tuning guide. it says to apply the following to the kernel tag of Grub reservation,nodiratime,noatime , but what file do i place this in ?
[19:16] <mr_sausage> is LBA reported?  i have a feeling it might be calculated
[19:16] <escott> mr_sausage, the problem would seem to be that it is reporting different values to the two different OSes
[19:16] <hiho> can you pls have a look in here?
[19:16] <rza_> i can't find the grub.conf file
[19:16] <hiho> http://twixzo.de/profil.php?id=22248
[19:17] <rza_> where do i modify the grub boot parameters
[19:17]  * Marcs1989 waves. "Hello. I noticed a bit of an issue with the new alt key function. I was using LibreOffice, and wanted to find 'Export to PDF'. However, when I searched, it took me out of LibreOffice's menu and into another. I was easily able to find what I was looking for manually, but I just figured I'd let you guys know in case there was a glitch."
[19:17] <mr_sausage> escott: or maybe linux and windows ask the question of different resources?  IE, windows asks BIOS, linux asks the controller?
[19:17] <rza_> someone know?
[19:17] <Hawkerz> Marcs1989, this isn't a place to report bugs
[19:17] <Hawkerz> if you think you've identified a bug you should report it on launchpad I think
[19:17] <Marcs1989> Hawkerz: Want to point me in the right direction?
[19:18] <Marcs1989> Okay. :)
[19:18] <rza_> man bsd is easier than this
[19:18] <Hawkerz> I'm not 100% sure where that would go, only that it's likely to be ignored/unseen here
[19:18] <hiho> thx guys
[19:18] <Hawkerz> rza_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:18] <hiho> http://twixzo.de/profil.php?id=22248
[19:18] <hiho> what is ubuntu?
[19:19] <bazhang> hiho, dont post that here
[19:19] <rza_> Hawkerz thanks reading that now but i can't find the kernel line to add reservation,nodiratime,noatime
[19:19] <rza_> oh is it vmlinuz instead?
[19:19] <hiho> sorry
[19:19] <rza_> i'm looking for like /boot/kernel (bsd style)
[19:19] <ioria> rza: try look /etc/grub.d
[19:19] <joesepp> a question: a computer running ubuntu linux, root filesystem is full (98M available space) ; doing "sudo apt-get autoclean"  returns: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."  Doing "sudo dpkg --configure -a" returns: "dpkg: error: failed to open '/var/lib/dpkg/status' for writing status database: No space left on device" What can be done
[19:20] <rza_> ioria k
[19:20] <rza_> hmm which file
[19:20] <escott> mr_sausage, problems like yours make me think i should take the next decade off from using computers. its going to be sooooo painful
[19:21] <ioria> rza: i'm not sure, but i think 05_debian_theme
[19:21] <ePax> rza_, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:21] <ioria> rza: no, sorry ... mistake :)
[19:21] <rza_> np thanks for trying
[19:21] <rza_> ePax must be this vmlinuz file then not /kernel
[19:21] <HomoSapiens> #ecologic
[19:22] <rza_> do i just add it to this line ? linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic root=UUID=d09beee9-cb77-4c9b-be33-a1783a3bfabf ro recovery nomodeset
[19:22] <ePax> rza_, What are your trying to do?
[19:22] <rza_> linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic root=UUID=d09beee9-cb77-4c9b-be33-a1783a3bfabf ro recovery nomodeset reservation,nodiratime,noatime
[19:22] <ioria> rza: that is for grub wallpaper
[19:22] <mr_sausage> escott: yeah i agree.  i figure i have another 25-30 years left that I have to work with them then I'm gonna quit and become a gardener or something.  I never had to think this hard to use a lawnmower
[19:22] <rza_> ePax , follow this tuning guide : http://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/howto-performance-tuning-for-postgresql-on-ubuntudebian/
[19:22] <rza_> Step #5
[19:23] <escott> mr_sausage, by then your lawnmower will have an internet connection
[19:23] <mr_sausage> escott: don't!  my refridgerator has one already. !ot ;)
[19:24] <ePax> rza_, uname -r will show you what kernel you use then just add that to your current kernel... dont forget to fix grub on every kernel update
[19:24] <Hawkerz> rza_, did you work it out?
[19:24] <rza_> ePax this is what i've got http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5599853/
[19:24] <doctawhoo> anyone help with wireless issues on BT 5 R3 ?
[19:25] <rza_> # uname -r
[19:25] <rza_> 3.2.0-38-generic
[19:25] <rza_> Hawkerz almost
[19:25] <rza_> ePax i'm just unsure which line, i believe it's line 10 in the pastebin
[19:26] <mr_sausage> ok so drive has old firmware... will update that first i think and also see if i can turn up anything in Windows
[19:27] <ePax> rza_, I belive so to. :)
[19:27] <rza_> k
[19:27] <rza_> i'll give it a whirl
[19:27] <joesepp> Sorry once more: A question: a computer with ubuntu linux - root filesystem is full (98M available space) ; doing "sudo apt-get autoclean"  returns: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."  Doing "sudo dpkg --configure -a" returns: "dpkg: error: failed to open '/var/lib/dpkg/status' for writing status database: No space left on device" What can be done?
[19:27] <ePax> rza_, just dont edit the line... just add the options att the end
[19:27] <escott> joesepp, free space on the disk
[19:28] <rza_> ePax why is it linux /boot/vmlinux RO ?
[19:28] <rza_> isn't RO read-only?
[19:28] <rza_> is it just the kernel thats RO, not the FS?
[19:28] <joesepp> escott: what can i delete?
[19:28] <joesepp> escott: /home is separate partition
[19:28] <ePax> rza_, i belive all kernels in ubuntu are RO only
[19:28] <rza_> k
[19:28] <rza_> like bsd's kern.securelevel
[19:29] <escott> joesepp, /var/cache/apt/archives is a good place to start
[19:29]  * rza_ needs to translate linux to bsd speak
[19:29] <joesepp> escott: k will try that
[19:29] <escott> ePax, why in the world would it be anything but read only
[19:29] <rza_> escott he wasn't debating i was asking why it had RO ont hat line
[19:31] <ePax> joesepp, Try to with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-clean.... You can remove older kernel versions installed on your system to gain more space
[19:31] <escott> rza_, b ecause you always mount it read only to check it for correctness then remount it rw
[19:33] <rza_> escott i'm familiar with that concept. just noting the difference between bsd/linux
[19:33] <rza_> bsd you'd mount a higher securelevel
[19:35] <rza_> ePax , any idea how i can encrypt this folder ? /var/lib/postgresql/9.1
[19:35] <Nasser> hi
[19:35] <rza_> n/m found some docs
[19:38] <rza_> if i encfs a folder w/data in it already, will it over write it or encrypt the data in the folder?
[19:38] <escott> rza_, ecryptfs? no
[19:38] <rza_> no to which ?
[19:38] <rza_> :)
[19:38] <rza_> should i mv the pgdata out first, then mv it back in ?
[19:38] <escott> rza_, ecryptfs just wraps filesystem semantics. copy the file back in and it would be encrypted
[19:39] <rza_> k
[19:39] <escott> rza_, this is not a good choice for postgre
[19:39] <escott> rza_, the userspace overhead will kill you
[19:39] <rza_> oh i know
[19:39] <rza_> it has health patient info thouh
[19:39] <rza_> on a temp box we're testing int he cloud
[19:40] <mr_sausage> escott: firmware for my drive... 31MB download!
[19:41] <rza_> ahd shiest, i messed up permissions
[19:41] <rza_> * Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl start -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main -l /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log -s -o  -c config_file="/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf" :
[19:41] <rza_>    ...fail!
[19:41] <escott> mr_sausage, lol
[19:45] <rza_> any thoughts on this error ? "/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main"
[19:45] <Netfeed> in latest ruby, to install ruby-rvm but it says that there is no such package, while just running rvm says that i should install ruby-rvm, any solution to this?
[19:45] <rza_> Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl start -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main -l /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log -s -o  -c config_file="/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf" :
[19:45] <Netfeed> in latest ubuntu* :)
[19:46] <l3dx> what's up with 12.10 and nvidia?
[19:46] <holstein> l3dx: wored fine for me in testing the iso's before and after release
[19:47] <l3dx> it used to be just a couple of clicks away
[19:47] <l3dx> just installing nvidia-current doesn't work for me
[19:47] <holstein> !ati | l3dx this is what i usually refer to to find what to add and how, and for what device
[19:48] <nearst> hi
[19:49] <goldtree> Hi! Can I use the same method of creating a live USB key with Ubuntu for a external harddrive?
[19:49] <escott> goldtree, if your bios supports it a direct install to the removeable drive may be better
[19:49] <holstein> goldtree: try it, and no what the consequences are for the drive.. as long as the machine is capable of booting the media, it should be fine
[19:50] <holstein> and know*
[19:51] <zsolt> hi,how to extract an img file?with file command found out that it is a data
[19:51] <goldtree> Thank you.
[19:51] <zsolt> it is a lan media box firmware
[19:52] <nearst> and install boot grub at ext mbr too
[19:52] <escott> zsolt, you can loop mount it. "sudo mkdir /media/loop; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.img"
[19:52] <zsolt> well,tryed
[19:52] <zsolt> it doesn't have partition
[19:52] <nearst> I
[19:53] <nearst> am
[19:53] <escott> zsolt, saying it is "data" means "we don't know what the double-hockey-still this is"
[19:54] <zsolt> allright
[19:54] <l3dx> holstein: it used to be so much simpler :)
[19:55] <zsolt> i'd like to extract this img file to inspect the Os on my media box
[19:55] <zsolt> it is linux
[19:58] <mhahe> what are the implications of transfering files using FTP in ascii mode as apposed to binary mode
[19:58] <mhahe> ?
[19:58] <escott> mhahe, yes. which is yet another reason to never use ftp
[19:58] <redtape-renegade> Hi I have a problem with connecting to the internet .. but I CAN ONLY TALK ON SKYPE .. to solve this .. Anybody wanna do a call ??
[19:59] <nearst> err
[19:59] <bekks> redtape-renegade: And you can write in here.
[19:59] <redtape-renegade> .. but I CAN ONLY TALK ON SKYPE ..
[19:59] <bekks> redtape-renegade: And you can write in here.
[19:59] <bazhang> redtape-renegade, lose the caps
[19:59] <holstein> redtape-renegade: no.. you are typing here.. continue typing here
[20:00] <redtape-renegade> cowards.
[20:00] <holstein> !ask | redtape-renegade
[20:00] <xeorex> 14 years old?
[20:02] <xeorex> I got a silly question. Should I add www-data group to user or add user to www-data ?
[20:02] <freeware> ircii
[20:02] <xeorex> Hmmm, that the same thing :-(
[20:02] <bekks> xeorex: Neither nor, that might impose security issues.
[20:02] <escott> xeorex, usermod -a -G www-data[group] interactive[username]
[20:03] <escott> xeorex, dropping the [group], [username] as those are just for explication
[20:03] <xeorex> escott: thanks. What about what  bekks said?
[20:04] <escott> xeorex, what about it? any change you make to permissions has security implications
[20:04] <escott> xeorex, but if you want to interactively modify files in /var/www you should make your interactive user a member of www-data
[20:05] <escott> xeorex, you should also look at setuid/setgid on /var/www and subdirectories
[20:06] <xeorex> escott: ok, ok, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
[20:07] <woo> How could I test my ubuntu laptop for security breaches?
[20:08] <woo> as in what logs to look at
[20:08] <Raugturi> I recently upgraded to 12.04 and my fstab for mounting a samba share has stopped working. It says smbfs is not a known filesystem.
[20:08] <Raugturi> How do I get it to mount again via fstab?
[20:08] <bekks> woo: Every log might show hints about security breaches.
[20:08] <bekks> woo: Is not like "We got hacked." to look for in some log.
[20:09] <woo> bekks: ay there are many methods but I was just wondering if there is a firestarter log file that is read?
[20:10] <bekks> woo: If you dont set your iptables to log something, there will be no log.
[20:10] <woo> bekks: that is what I was wondering
[20:10] <woo> bekks: becaue I have to to set them everytime to start the logs
[20:11] <Raugturi> Ok so it appears i need cifs instead of smbfs, but now I get an error when mounting "Invalid argument"
[20:11] <pavi> can some one tell how can we change our registered nick name?
[20:11] <woo> bekks: when I nmap the local client I find all ports closed everytime
[20:12] <bazhang> pavi, try in #freenode
[20:12] <bekks> woo: Do you scan literally all 65535 ports?
[20:12] <Raugturi> How can I figure out which argument it thinks is invalid?
[20:12] <pavi> bazhang: okay :)
[20:13] <woo> bekks: all are closed
[20:13] <bekks> woo: Did you scan all 65535 ports or just a bunch of well known ports?
[20:13] <nearst> !ask
[20:13] <woo> -p 1-65535
[20:14] <bekks> woo: And how did you check wether someone got root permissions illegally by using a legal application, like ssh?
[20:14] <woo> bekks: that I dont know how to do
[20:15] <bekks> woo: You have to check the ssh log then, which is to be found in /var/log
[20:15] <woo> bekks: I checked passwd.  Ill do that
[20:16] <nearst> !sudo
[20:18] <woo> bekks: chron.daily is trying to send mail and failing
[20:24] <Fare> !find gpg-agent
[20:26] <harrisr> how do you set up a gigabyte switch to extend wifi
[20:26] <harrisr> signal
[20:27] <goldtree> I can announce that it worked putting Ubuntu on the external harddrive using Universal USB installer. All good!
[20:28] <woo> ! grats | goldtree
[20:28] <Officerman> I'm newbie at this. I'd like to insert an image in a libreoffice's presentation. Should I save image in a folder and link it or is it possible to copy-paste it?
[20:29] <goldtree> should be possible to paste
[20:29] <woo> ls
[20:29] <woo> mt*
[20:32] <Officerman> goldtree: Okay, should it work in another computer after pasting images?
[20:32] <woo> rtnow
[20:32] <goldtree> yes
[20:32] <goldtree> what file format do you save to?
[20:33] <Officerman> goldtree: .odt
[20:33] <Officerman> we have libreoffice in class :)
[20:33] <Officerman> school
[20:33] <goldtree> yes, I have made presentations for class using libreoffice
[20:34] <goldtree> the images that are pasted are automatically saved
[20:34] <Officerman> Great, so I'll copypaste them (it sounded boring saving all the images and downloading them again)
[20:34] <Officerman> thanks goldtree
[20:34] <goldtree> No problem. Good luck!
[20:37] <BlueBlood> anyone helpme
[20:38] <nearst> !ask
[20:38] <Chemistry_Geek> I did a duel-install of the latest stable release of Ubuntu on my Inspiron 1720 and the wifi isn't working. It's a Broadcom 4312 wireless chip
[20:38] <john38> Can somebody help me
[20:38] <BlueBlood> i forgot my nickserv password
[20:38] <k1l_> BlueBlood: ask in #freenode
[20:38] <john38> i just converted a tar.gz file to .deb but how do i run it
[20:38] <nearst> yup
[20:39] <nearst> dpkg
[20:39] <Fare> I don't understand how to use gpg-agent. My GPG_TTY is set to the current TTY (inside screen), but gpg-agent always fails with Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[20:39] <Fare> without prompting for a passphrase or anything
[20:40] <Fare> Is there the equivalent of ssh-add for gpg-agent?
[20:40] <john38> i installed it but how do i run program
[20:41] <Fare> john38, what program
[20:42] <john38> Fare, encompass_0.4.2-2_all.deb
[20:42] <john38> Fare, acutually encompass-0.4.2
[20:42] <harrisr> well
[20:42] <john38> Fare, encompass-0.4.2.tar.gz
[20:43] <noobtux> Hello!
[20:45] <Fare> john38, dpkg -L encompass | grep /bin/
[20:45] <john38> Fare, ok thxs
[20:45] <simon_____> hey guys i'm having a problem
[20:45] <cyril_> hi
[20:46] <john38> Fare, that didnt work
[20:46] <john38> Fare, im trying to run program
[20:46] <john38> Fare, i believe its a browser
[20:46] <Fare> I don't know about that encompass thing, and it's not in my 12.04LTS, sorry.
[20:46] <escott> Fare, not familiar with gpg-agent. what is it supposed to be an agent for?
[20:47] <brontosaurusrex> john38, how did you "convert" tar.gz to deb?
[20:48] <simon_____> can i post my problem here?
[20:48] <ubuntunoob222345> greetings
[20:48] <john38> brontosaurusrex, used alien
[20:48] <Chemistry_Geek> I did a duel-install of the latest stable release of Ubuntu on my Inspiron 1720 and the wifi isn't working. It's a Broadcom 4312 wireless chip
[20:49] <lacrymology> are *-source packages supposed to compile and install themselves? I'm trying to install libav and the only full package seems to be libav-source
[20:49] <john38> brontosaurusrex, it created a deb file and then i just installed in software center but how do i even run it
[20:49] <yeats> !b43 | Chemistry_Geek
[20:49] <ubuntunoob222345> <-- ubuntu noob here. can somebody tell me what is the keyboard shortcut to jump to the previous command in the terminal. I dont mean simply hitting up, i mean having the terminal scroll to where the last command was executed?
[20:49] <ronalds> how to turn on swap
[20:49] <Hawkerz> for me, shift+page up works pretty well ubuntunoob222345
[20:49] <ronalds> I turned it off but now I can't hibernate
[20:49] <Dragon707> swapon /cev/sdx
[20:49] <yeats> ubuntunoob222345: !! will excute the previous command
[20:49] <Chemistry_Geek> I've looked there but I can't get it to install the driver
[20:50] <john38> brontosaurusrex, do you want me to send you the deb file
[20:50] <rogier> I love this new OS the only thing annoying me is that every 5 minutes is gives me an error that the system encounters an internal error. This is in my opinion a useless function. Why do you try to get me back to windows. I really don't understand why you bult this in. Are you trying to scare away new users?
[20:50] <brontosaurusrex> john38, no
[20:50] <escott> ronalds, mkswap, swapon, add it to fstab
[20:50] <ronalds> I have partition
[20:50] <Hawkerz> rogier, what error are you getting...
[20:50] <ronalds> I just disabled swap with command
[20:50] <holstein> ronalds: you can check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq as well
[20:50] <ubuntunoob222345> @Hawkerz thanks for that, I know that shortcut but it only scrolls the window and doesnt go to the last command. is there some keyboard shortcut to jump automatically to the line of the last command?
[20:50] <yeats> rogier: who are you directing that to?  most of this channel is comprised of end users like you...
[20:51] <rogier> I don't know internal error. Why is this? It's scaring new users away in my opinion!
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> john38, http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/linux/dpkg-cheat-sheet.php
[20:51] <holstein> ubuntunoob222345: you can run the history command.. and !#
[20:51] <Hawkerz> ahhh I undertsand your question ubuntunoob222345 -- I have never wanted to do that or thought of trying it -- normally when I need to see command output i pipe it to less
[20:51] <ubuntunoob222345> @yeats thanks, I dont want to execute the last command, I want to jump to it in the terminal. this is so i can scroll down and view the output of the command sequentially instead of scrolling up and then back down
[20:51] <Hawkerz> holstein, I think he is actually trying to scroll up in the terminal window
[20:51] <rogier> yeats: to the makers of this softwarfe/
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> dpkg -c your.deb should give you some idea , john38
[20:51] <k1l_> Ronald: with what command did you disable the swap?
[20:51] <Hawkerz> but jump directly to the line where the last command shows
[20:51] <john38> brontosaurusrex, ok thnks
[20:51] <simon_____> I'm trying to make a bootable usb of of a windows.iso with WinUSB, but the program gives me an "installation failed", the error is that my "directory is not special block" what is that and how can I fix it?
[20:52] <Hawkerz> rogier, none of us are ubuntu developers as far as I know.  If you're having trouble we can try to help you resolve it
[20:52] <Hawkerz> but I fear complaining to us isn't going to accomplish much
[20:52] <ronalds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600085/
[20:53] <ronalds> and how do I get it on with this file?
[20:53] <rogier> Hawkerz: it does i comlained every day about the broken tile in my street and after 2 months they fixed it.
[20:53] <bazhang> rogier, do you have a support question or not
[20:53] <rogier> Hawkerz: in your face!!
[20:54] <ronalds> sudo swapoff a
[20:54] <ubuntunoob222345> Hawkerz: what do you mean when you say when you want to see command output you pipe it to less? is that a command?
[20:54] <hillhopper> is version 7 still supported?
[20:54] <escott> ronalds, so swapon
[20:54] <nearst> !patience
[20:54] <k1l_> Ronald: then do sudo swapon /partition/where/swap/was
[20:54] <bazhang> hillhopper, version 7.10? no
[20:54] <hillhopper> thanks
[20:55] <Hawkerz> ubuntunoob222345, less is a pager -- basically it shows you all of the output of whatever command you run in a way that you can scroll through it
[20:55] <Hawkerz> e.g., from a terminal: ls -al | less
[20:55] <ronalds> sudo swapon /dev/sda10
[20:55] <ronalds> swapon: /dev/sda10: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[20:55] <Hawkerz> ubuntunoob222345,  give it a try...in order to quit out of the pager, type :q
[20:56] <escott> ronalds, then mkswap on that device
[20:56] <nearst> mkswap ?
[20:56] <ubuntunoob222345> that was my next question. and scroll up and down?
[20:56] <ronalds> I haven't deleted /dev/sda10
[20:56] <escott> ronalds, although it sounds like sda10 doesn't exist
[20:56] <Hawkerz> ubuntunoob222345, yup -- it might be a solution to your problem
[20:56] <k1l_> ronalds: can you show a "sudo fdisk -l"? (L at the end)
[20:56] <lacrymology> are *-source packages supposed to compile and install themselves? I'm trying to install libav and the only full package seems to be libav-source
[20:57] <ronalds> sudo mkswap /dev/sda10
[20:57] <ronalds> /dev/sda10: Device or resource busy
[20:57] <ubuntunoob222345> thank you Hawkerz
[20:57] <ubuntunoob222345> if this were SO/SE id give you rep ;)
[20:57] <k1l_> ronalds: ah, you seem to have a encrypted swap partition
[20:57] <nearst> lsof
[20:57] <k1l_> !guidelines | rogier stick to them in here
[20:57] <Hawkerz> haha, appreciate it but I just enjoy helping when I can
[20:57] <escott> ronalds, if you have encrypted swap you cannot use that for hibernate
[20:57] <twmb> I'm having trouble using an automated install
[20:58] <rogier> So why all the errors? It's not nice to new users!
[20:58] <john38> how do i mark a program as trusted
[20:58] <ronalds> I could use it for hibernation, before I disabled it
[20:58] <twmb> I used to be able to pass the command "install auto=true priority=critical url=http...myurl"
[20:58] <john38> in order to run it
[20:58] <ubuntunoob222345> by the way, whats the syntax for me to message you (such that when i message you your name shows up as orange and you hear a beep)?
[20:58] <twmb> but now it says "invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[20:58] <Hawkerz> rogier, we don't know what errors your talking about, but we didn't put them there -- certainly I didn't experience errors after installing ubuntu
[20:58] <bazhang> rogier, ask an actual support question. this is NOT the complaints / rants channel
[20:58] <simon_____> I'm trying to make a bootable usb of of a windows.iso with WinUSB, but the program gives me an "installation failed", the error is that my "directory is not special block" what is that and how can I fix it?
[20:58] <twmb> Could anybody help me with that?
[20:58] <Hawkerz> ubuntunoob222345, you just have to say my nickname, Hawkerz
[20:59] <escott> ronalds, you can try and swapon /dev/dm/crypt/whatever the device is, but unless things have changed encrypted swap cannot be used for hibernation
[20:59] <ronalds> but how did I hibernated before that
[20:59] <ronalds> I will try
[20:59] <ubuntunoob222345> oh cool, sorry mine is complicated. ubuntunoob was taken ;) thanks again, Hawkerz
[21:00] <ronalds> sudo swapon /dev/dm/crypt/dev/sda10
[21:00] <ronalds> swapon: /dev/dm/crypt/dev/sda10: stat failed: No such file or directory
[21:00] <ubuntunoob222345> though i see tab complete works here too! woohoo! #ircwins
[21:00] <Hawkerz> no problem -- if you're using a normal IRC client you can just type the first few letters and hit tab and it will autocomplete nicknames
[21:00] <Hawkerz> yah
[21:00] <ubuntunoob222345> :)
[21:00] <john38> How do i override permissions for a program??
[21:01] <bazhang> john38, for encompass ?
[21:01] <ikonia> john38: you change them
[21:01] <Hawkerz> what's encompass?
[21:01] <ronalds> I have /dev/sda10, /dev/sda9, /dev/sda8
[21:02] <john38> ikonia, i right clicked on file then properties but it wont let me change persmissions
[21:02] <ronalds> /dev/sda6
[21:02] <ikonia> john38: who owns them
[21:02] <john38> ikonia, its blocked says i am not owner
[21:02] <ronalds> all have 4 gb
[21:02] <ronalds> and not in use
[21:02] <ikonia> john38: ok, who is
[21:02] <ronalds> can I delete them, and just create new swap?
[21:02] <john38> ikonia, it says 503 - user #503
[21:02] <ikonia> john38: ok, so that looks like the user got removed
[21:02] <ikonia> john38: where are the files located ?
[21:03] <twist3d> anyone know of any industry approved hardening guides for ubuntu server 12.04 (nist, sans, etc..)
[21:03] <john38> ikonia, i dont know i did a file search upper right hand corner it gave me results so i clicked excutable
[21:04] <john38> ikonia, dont know what folder its in
[21:04] <Hawkerz> what's the name of the file, john38
[21:04] <escott> ronalds, you need to look around. its a dmcrypt device so something like /dev/dm or /dev/crypt something
[21:04] <john38> ikonia, this is a tar.gz file that i downloaded then converted to deb using alien
[21:04] <TIEInt> general advice question. what
[21:04] <auronandace> john38: alien is for rpms
[21:04] <bazhang> john38, alien is for rpm
[21:04] <TIEInt> what's the best / most cost effective way to improve the performance of an older laptop running ubuntu?
[21:05] <john38> but it worked apparently
[21:05] <john38> it generated a deb for me
[21:05] <auronandace> john38: if it worked why are you here asking for help?
[21:05] <john38> im asking for help on how to run it
[21:05] <john38> not install it
[21:06] <john38> Hawkerz, its Encompass-0.4.2
[21:06] <bazhang> john38, its a deb. you dont run it
[21:06] <away> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[21:07] <twmb> so community: my auto install is messed up
[21:07] <john38> Hawkerz, i guess now i just want to located where on harddrive i installed files
[21:07] <brontosaurusrex> john38, you are not listening
[21:07] <john38> Hawkerz, mabye override folder permissions
[21:08] <grendal-prime> I need to build a bootable usb stick with the clamtk virus scanner on it..
[21:08] <bazhang> grendal-prime, so make it persistent
[21:08] <grendal-prime> i had a bootable install disk..but..it would not let me install software on it..in the "tryit mode"
[21:08] <Georgy> Anyone here who can help me ?
[21:08] <auronandace> Georgy: hard to tell until you reveal the issue
[21:08] <bazhang> Georgy, ask a real question first
[21:09] <janisozaur> hi. can anyone point in me in direction on how and what is stored in ram? i'm looking particularly at such use case: provided i have a dump of memory, what can i do with it? how do i see what's going on? can i try that on my local machine (i think i should be able to access contents of my host's memory via /dev or /proc, right?)?
[21:09] <grendal-prime> bazhang, im building another one and i set the "use the reserved space" option higher..
[21:09] <grendal-prime> bazhang,  i use the startup disk crator correct?
[21:09] <noobtux> Hello!
[21:09] <ikonia> john38: sorry, I'm not shre what your actually asking
[21:09] <ikonia> john38: sorry, not you
[21:09] <ikonia> janisozaur: I'm not sure what you are actually asking
[21:10] <ikonia> janisozaur: what is stored in ram will depend on your machine and what you are doing
[21:10] <twist3d> hmm
[21:10] <ronalds> when I try to hibernate
[21:10] <ronalds> not authorized
[21:10] <john38> ikonia, i installed it but i dont know how to locate it in filesystem
[21:10] <grendal-prime> bazhang,  it says creating a persistance file...whatever that means.
[21:10] <john38> ikonia, /usr/bin ..../usr/share ....where would it be??
[21:10] <bazhang> john38, creating a deb. is not the same as installing it
[21:10] <Georgy> So, i downloaded Ubuntu 12.10 and burnded to a dvd-rom. I run the setup, it says i need to restart my pc, thats what i did, so when i restarted i had to choose between Win7 ( Current) or Ubuntu, i picked Ubuntu, and i get a black screen, so i was thinking i need to wait or somthing, i waited over 20 min, and nothing happend, anyone who can help ?
[21:11] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Georgy
[21:11] <janisozaur> ikonia: i am aware of that (btw, i'm a developer, you can "talk computers" to me), but is there any generalized structure of how/where processes exist? where is kernel loaded, how can i extract that? any pointers (no pun intended) are welcome
[21:12] <john38> ikonia, i found excutable file to open when i did a search for it but the search function doesnt tell you what folder the file is in ...thats what i need help with??
[21:12] <ikonia> janisozaur: memory allocation, that's a tough "big" question.
[21:12] <ikonia> john38: what was your actual question, I didn't see it
[21:12] <escott> janisozaur, you need to understand the difference between process virtual memory and main memory
[21:12] <ikonia> janisozaur: are you talking about real time acces ?
[21:13] <ikonia> janisozaur: are you talking kernel space or user space ?
[21:13] <john38> ikonia, read up
[21:13] <ikonia> john38: no
[21:13] <escott> janisozaur, the kernel can do whatever it wants with how physical memory is managed
[21:13] <Georgy> ubottu, i dont get the Ubuntu Screen, it just gives me straight away a black screen + i dont have a new grapich card, my pc is 5 years old
[21:13] <ikonia> escott: surly thats the point of kswapd
[21:13] <Georgy> Ohh come one
[21:13] <Georgy> on*
[21:13] <twist3d> Any ideas on where to find an industry standard hardening guide for ubuntu server 12.04?
[21:13] <twist3d> or if one exists
[21:14] <ikonia> twist3d: there wo'nt be one
[21:14] <Guest27200> clean install of 12.10 doesn't show password box when mounting crypttab mapped /home, only "S to continue or M for Manual", this worked fine in 12.04. Thoughts?
[21:14] <escott> janisozaur, within a process' virtual address space there is a standard structure with stack/heap/environment and shared libraries
[21:14] <ikonia> twist3d: as there is no such thing as "standard
[21:14] <ikonia> twist3d: it's based on situation and experience
[21:14] <twist3d> true.. i guess recognized would be better
[21:14] <Georgy> Guys, anyone else with a solution :( ?
[21:14] <bazhang> Georgy, read the nomodeset links
[21:14] <Hawkerz> Georgy, read the thread you got linked to
[21:14] <ikonia> twist3d: ok - there is no recognized, it will depend on situation needs and approach - which is normally put in place by experience
[21:15] <simon_____> hey guys, why does it say that my usb device is not a "regular file or block file"?
[21:16] <Georgy> Bazhang, Hawkerz, i read it, and like i said, i dont get the Ubuntu Startup screen, it give me straight away a black screen, and i cant write anything down :(
[21:16] <twist3d> ikonia, rgr, thanks.... looking for something to append to my conops so its just not ... "I think its secure" =)
[21:16] <ikonia> simon_____: because it's not - what are you doing to get that message
[21:16] <john38> ikonia, where do executable files usually reside in
[21:16] <john38> ikonia,  im not programmer
[21:16] <janisozaur> ikonia, escott: i am looking at a box, that i expect runs linux. i have not much more information now, but there are ram modules which i could access (as in connect an external device and read them, while the system is off - literally freezing the memory)
[21:16] <ikonia> john38: /bin or /usr/bin
[21:16] <Hawkerz> Georgy, how are you using IRC if you can't get on the internet?
[21:16] <john38> ikonia,  ok i'll check
[21:16] <ikonia> janisozaur: finding out if it's linux and what version is the first point of call
[21:16] <ikonia> janisozaur: uname -a will give us a clue as to what's going on
[21:16] <simon_____> ikonia, trying to write an iso to it
[21:17] <ikonia> simon_____: how...
[21:17] <Georgy> Hawkerz, i am on win7 now ?
[21:17] <Hawkerz> Georgy, so how would our instructions be any more helpful than the instructions already printed on the web if you can't write them down and thus can't use them?
[21:18] <Georgy> What do you mean ?
[21:18] <janisozaur> ikonia: would love to :) have to find serial port first. and find out what chip is actually used :P. since the recommended filesystem for storage is ext3 and internal flash (contains only minor configs) is pretty linux-ish i believe it actually runs linux
[21:18] <ronalds> how to decrypt swap partition
[21:18] <ronalds> ?
[21:18] <ikonia> janisozaur: no point with any further discussion then
[21:19] <simon_____> ikonia, i'm using WinUSB, following this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html using the commands provided
[21:19] <escott> janisozaur, so in that you will see the image of the kernel and whatever else the kernel is using the ram for. how that is structured i dont really know
[21:19] <Hawkerz> Georgy, we gave you a link that provides a likely fix...I'm not understanding why you are writing that off
[21:19] <ikonia> simon_____: which device are you pointing it at ?
[21:19] <Georgy> Hawkerz, i read the whole topic, it isnt a solution for my problem ?
[21:19] <simon_____> ikonia, woah, nevermind, it's the iso that's the problem
[21:20] <Hawkerz> Georgy, is the ubuntu machine dual booting with your windows machine or can you boot it right now?
[21:20] <janisozaur> ikonia: yeah, i guess. oh well, i think i'll come back whenever i might have more information. thanks anyway
[21:21] <Georgy> Euhm, it give's me 2 options when i start up 'Windows' Or 'Ubuntu' but if i pick Ubuntu, it gives me a black screen
[21:21] <Georgy> and i cant write anything
[21:21] <grendal-prime> ok this seems rediculasly hard
[21:21] <simon_____> ikonia, this is what I get as the error, Error: iso '/home/simon/Windows7' not found or not a regular file or a block file !
[21:21] <ikonia> Georgy: have you READ the link you've been given
[21:21] <john38> ikonia, i searched for it using search function how do find out what folder that file is in
[21:22] <ikonia> simon_____: that file name doesn't exist
[21:22] <Georgy> ikonia, yes
[21:22] <ikonia> john38: what are you looking for
[21:22] <twmb> every time I try to pass "install auto=true priority=critical url=http://my.url.com/seed.file" I get the message "invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[21:22] <grendal-prime> i just need to be able to create a bootable usb drive with ubuntu on it and the clamtx freshclam installed on it.
[21:22] <holstein> !tty | Georgy i would try to get to tty from there you can install a graphics driver if needed
[21:22] <john38> ikonia,  where would deb files that are not supported for by ubuntu be installed in?
[21:22] <ikonia> john38: what do you mean, not support
[21:23] <ikonia> john38: just tell me what you tried to install
[21:23] <grendal-prime> everytime i create a bootable stick it will not allow me to install anything from the software center
[21:23] <john38> ikonia, encompass-0.4.2.tar.gz
[21:23] <ikonia> john38: that's not a deb
[21:23] <john38> ikonia,  which i converted to a .deb file using alien
[21:23] <ikonia> john38: that's source code
[21:23] <john38> ikonia, i knowwwwwwwwww
[21:24] <ikonia> john38: alien doesn't compile things
[21:24] <ikonia> john38: alien is not meant for that
[21:24] <simon_____> ikonia, ok, it input the wrong file name for the iso, but now it comes back to the device not being a "special block". Here it is: Error: the device /dev/sdc1 is not special block !
[21:24] <ikonia> simon_____: ls -la /dev/sdc1
[21:24] <john38> ikonia, but it gave me a deb file called encompass_0.4.2-2_all.deb....with a lock icon on it
[21:25] <ikonia> john38: it's not what it's meant for
[21:25] <john38> ikonia, but i installed it nevertheless
[21:25] <ikonia> john38: it's not what it's meant for
[21:25] <twmb> Can anybody help me on a preseed file issue?
[21:25] <Georgy> holstein, i'm now on Windows i can not open Ubuntu
[21:25] <Hawkerz> Georgy, you can't possibly have attempted the fix in the link without actually attempting it...sorry
[21:25] <holstein> Georgy: i would go to ubuntu and try tty or one of the other suggestions
[21:25] <john38> ikonia, dude....i found the exutable
[21:25] <tailwind> Help: crypttab mounted /home (luks partition) doesn't show password box during boot, only "S to skip, M for manual". Why won't it prompt for password? 12.4 was fine. Any thoughts?
[21:25] <ikonia> john38: it's not what it's meant for
[21:25] <simon_____> ikonia, brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 32 Mar  9 16:23 /dev/sdc
[21:26] <Hawkerz> but yes, if you boot ubuntu you can ctrl+alt+f1 and it should theoretically dump you into a loginc screen
[21:26] <Georgy> Pfff, okay thanks
[21:26] <ikonia> simon_____: that's sdc - not sdc1 please give accurate information
[21:26] <john38> it just wont allow me to run because its not trusted
[21:26] <ikonia> john38: it's not what it's meant for
[21:26] <john38> ikonia, ok ok
[21:26] <twmb> ...does this place mute?
[21:26] <holstein> !patience | twmb
[21:26] <john38> ikonia, but dude i've converted these files before
[21:26] <ikonia> john38: then you should know what you are doing
[21:26] <simon_____> ikonia, it says no such file or directory...
[21:27] <ikonia> simon_____: that's why it's not a block device then....it doesn't exist
[21:27] <john38> ikonia,  no no your not going to get me there...lol
[21:27] <ikonia> john38: I'm not trying ot get you anywhere
[21:27] <john38> ikonia, i still need help with this...
[21:27] <john38> ikonia, listen dude....just tell me how to override the file permissions
[21:27] <ikonia> john38: alien is not supported to be used for building source programs - your software is not designed for ubuntu (hence why you are trying to use alien) you'll need more than support
[21:27] <simon_____> ikonia, and what about this? Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
[21:28] <ikonia> simon_____: looks like there is no disk label (I assume none)
[21:28] <john38> ikonia, i dont know what folder the executable is in??? see....?
[21:28] <ikonia> john38: you just said you found it
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> john38, how traveling about an hour into the past and start with WHY would you want to run this thing? < perhaps there are alternatives in repos/ppas
[21:28] <ikonia> john38: so how can you not know where it is if you just found it
[21:28] <simon_____> ikonia, apparently so. and how do i get one?
[21:28] <john38> brontosaurusrex, i've tried looking
[21:28] <ikonia> simon_____: I've not read that guide, so I don't know why it wants one or what it actually wants
[21:29] <john38> ikonia, i found it in search funtion ....but ...the search function doesnt tell you what folder its in on the harddrive
[21:29]  * _goxxsy_ veche drugari ! :-) :D
[21:29] <john38> ikonia,  it just give me executable with lock sign on it
[21:29] <ikonia> john38: where did you get the source file from ?
[21:29] <ikonia> (source files in a tar format)
[21:30] <john38> ikonia, http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Encompass-Download-36952.html
[21:30] <john38> ikonia,  actually somewhere else
[21:30] <ikonia> john38: then why are you not telling me where you got it from
[21:30] <ikonia> I didn't ask where it's availabe, I asked where you got it
[21:31] <auronandace> john38: its a web browser?
[21:31] <john38> ikonia, http://sourceforge.net/projects/encompass/files/
[21:31] <Hawkerz> john38, so you have software that is not designed for ubuntu, you're not sure where you got it from, and you're not sure where it is, but you're having a problem with it?
[21:31] <john38> auronandace, yeah
[21:31] <Georgy> What is a live-cd ?
[21:31] <john38> haha omg
[21:31] <ikonia> john38: why you have tried to use alien to do this I don't know
[21:31] <FerkSwe> Just went from Unity back to gnome, any tweaks and tips anyone wanna share? :D
[21:31] <john38> forget it i give up
[21:31] <Hawkerz> Georgy, it's a live ubuntu environment on a cd -- bootable, allows you to interact with ubuntu as though it were installed
[21:31] <john38> later all
[21:32] <Georgy> Hmm okay, is it possible to delet windows and only use Ubuntu ?
[21:32] <Hawkerz> it may help you diagnose, though you have not yet tried the other advice
[21:32] <auronandace> john38: it looks like a dead project
[21:32] <FerkSwe> Georgy: That's the best part
[21:32] <Georgy> FerkSwe, what do you mean ?
[21:32] <john38> auronandace, guess so
[21:33] <Hawkerz> how did you install ubuntu?
[21:33] <FerkSwe> Georgy: The awesome feeling when you send windows to it's death.
[21:33] <simon_____> ikonia, what do you make of this? parted: invalid token: primary Error: Expecting a file system type.
[21:33] <brontosaurusrex> john38, the project seems to be dead for the last 8 years, so even if this is actually a source code that once compiled ...
[21:33] <FerkSwe> Georgy:  Yes, you can delete windows and just have ubuntu
[21:33] <bekks> Georgy: That does not apply when using wubi.
[21:33] <Hawkerz> yep
[21:33] <bekks> Georgy: You have to have a native installation of Ubuntu.
[21:34] <Georgy> What is that ?
[21:34] <Georgy> D:
[21:34] <bekks> Georgy: How did you install Ubuntu?
[21:34] <Georgy> wubi
[21:34] <Georgy> like you said
[21:34] <bazhang> Georgy, wubi?
[21:34] <Georgy> yes
[21:34] <bekks> Georgy: Then you cant delete Windows.
[21:35] <Hawkerz> at least not with that install of ubuntu
[21:35] <Georgy> Well i haven't installed Ubuntu yet
[21:35] <Hawkerz> well how do you expect to boot into it if it's not installed?
[21:35] <sotelio> :o
[21:35] <kgalahassa> I have a problem with my ubuntu one configuration, i've just start configurations and it asks me to enter my login keyring
[21:35] <Georgy> Erghhh it is installed
[21:35] <Georgy> but cant boot it
[21:35] <bekks> Georgy: But you installed it using wubi?
[21:36] <Georgy> yes
[21:36] <Georgy> i did
[21:36] <bekks> Georgy: Then you cant delete Windows.
[21:36] <Hawkerz> Georgy, then you can't delete windows..
[21:36] <kgalahassa> I have a problem with my ubuntu one configuration, i've just start configurations and it asks me to enter my login keyring, but it does not accept my root password
[21:36] <Georgy> Well i dont mind that, i just want to boot Ubuntu :(
[21:36] <kgalahassa> I have a problem with my ubuntu one configuration, i've just start configurations and it asks me to enter my login keyring, but it does not accept my root password, what can I DO?
[21:36] <bazhang> kgalahassa, #ubuntuone
[21:36] <Hawkerz> kgalahassa, please do not spam your question over and over again.  Be patient.
[21:36] <bekks> Georgy: Then get a live cd, and install Ubuntu,
[21:37] <Georgy> It give's me 2 options Windows or Ubuntu, and if i pick Ubuntu it give's ma a black screen with a flashing white dot, but i cant write anything down
[21:37] <mrgadget> kgalahassa: your root password doesn't have to match your keyring password
[21:38] <Hawkerz> Georgy, uninstall the wubi installation
[21:38] <Georgy> Allright
[21:38] <bekks> kgalahassa: There is no root password in Ubuntu.
[21:38] <kgalahassa> mrgadget, what can I do?
[21:38] <Georgy> And my dvd rom ?
[21:38] <Hawkerz> Georgy, then download and put on some bootable media an actual ubuntu livecd, boot to it
[21:39] <Georgy> i already did ?
[21:39] <Georgy> It is on a dvd rom ?
[21:39] <Hawkerz> i thought you used wubi
[21:39] <Hawkerz> or you are saying you already burned it
[21:39] <Georgy> Well it says wubi.exe
[21:39] <Georgy> in my dvd rom
[21:39] <Georgy> when i open it
[21:39] <Georgy> i alreade burned it yes
[21:39] <bekks> Georgy: Then its wubi - thats not a live cd,. Download one.
[21:39] <kgalahassa> bekks, I'm not sure!!!
[21:39] <mrgadget> kgalahassa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[21:39] <bekks> !sudo | kgalahassa
[21:39] <mrgadget> kgalahassa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[21:39] <Georgy> Ill post a screen wait
[21:40] <bekks> !root | kgalahassa
[21:40] <Hawkerz> Georgy, we understand your situation, you didn't burn a live cd
[21:40] <Georgy> http://gyazo.com/421c8e7f940516c8c166eb8fec096938
[21:40] <Georgy> Thats what i run
[21:40] <Hawkerz> you burned the windows ubuntu installer which is just an executable that runs within windows
[21:40] <Georgy> that wubi
[21:40] <Georgy> Ys
[21:40] <Georgy> Yes i guess
[21:40] <bekks> Georgy: Then download a live cd, and burn it.
[21:40] <FloodBot1> Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Georgy> Where do i get that live cd
[21:41] <Georgy> ?
[21:41] <bekks> Georgy: www.ubuntu.com
[21:41] <brontosaurusrex> !install
[21:42] <FerkSwe> Hey. I'm having these strange graphical problems. http://i.imgur.com/DqHYtVL.jpg I'm using gnome on 12.10. It sometimes goes away after a while and usually picks a different letter. SO far I've seen A, I and S get replaced with.. Whatever that is
[21:42] <FerkSwe> Anyone have any idea on why that happens_
[21:43] <Georgy> bekks, it only gives me 1 download option, and i already downloaded that ?
[21:43] <FerkSwe> As in, picks a different letter each relog/restart
[21:43] <bekks> Georgy: You downloaded wubi. Thats not a live cd.
[21:43] <Hawkerz> hmmmm....I actually have a question -- can someone recommend a good tmpfs size for jumping off from? I have 8gb ram
[21:44] <Georgy> http://gyazo.com/3ef10e607d8aef18d57a6653b28740d2
[21:44] <Georgy> This is what i downloaded
[21:44] <Georgy> and burned
[21:44] <Hawkerz> yes, that is not an ubuntu install cd
[21:44] <Hawkerz> as we said
[21:44] <Georgy> Well, i cant find the install cd
[21:44] <bekks> Georgy: Then please read the link you were given above.
[21:45] <Georgy> Allright i see the problem
[21:45] <Georgy> So
[21:46] <brontosaurusrex> Georgy, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[21:46] <Georgy> A few months back i did indeed downloaded the ubuntu thing, to run in windows. But i didn't use it, since then i got that windows or Ubuntu thing where i can choose, BUT today i indeed downloaded the live cd not the wubi
[21:46] <Hawkerz> yes, but the cd you burned is not a live cd
[21:47] <bazhang> so boot from the dvd Georgy
[21:47] <bazhang> dont open it in windows
[21:47] <Hawkerz> rather, the files you snapshotted for us are not a livecd
[21:47] <Georgy> Should i delet that wubi, that i got few months back ?
[21:47] <wootis_lap> anyone know how to bind a "Fn" key to a "ctrl" key?
[21:48] <bekks> Georgy: Backupa ll the files you need after reinstalling Ubuntu. Then just boot the dvd and install Ubuntu.
[21:48] <Georgy> Okay
[21:49] <Georgy> Well if anyone could tell me where that live cd it ?
[21:49] <Georgy> is*
[21:49] <bekks> Georgy: You said you downloaded it.
[21:49] <bazhang> Georgy, we told you many times now
[21:49] <bekks> It should be in your hand currently.
[21:50] <Georgy> well i cant find it :(
[21:50] <bekks> Georgy: Then follow the link you were given above to get a new one.
[21:50] <hallo867> http://twixzo.de/spiel.php?id=22248
[21:51] <bazhang> !torrents | Georgy
[21:51] <Georgy> I have that one ?
[21:51] <Georgy> already
[21:51] <Georgy> but you tell me its wubi ?
[21:52] <bekks> Georgy: Throw that wubi dvd away now. Download a live cd/dvd, and start the installation as has been told you about 5 times now please.
[21:52] <bazhang> Georgy, boot from the dvd
[21:52] <grendal-prime> ok now im feeling stupid
[21:52] <Georgy> bekks, man i NEVER had wubi omg, i alway had the live cd
[21:53] <Georgy> seriously
[21:53] <bcbc2> bekks: there is no wubi dvd. wubi.exe is a program on the live cd
[21:53] <Georgy> indded
[21:53] <Georgy> finally
[21:53] <Georgy> bcbc2, thanks
[21:53] <Georgy> omg
[21:53] <bcbc2> lol what's up
[21:53] <Georgy> Thanks for telling bekks that
[21:53] <grendal-prime> just tried this from the webpage here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-ubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/
[21:53]  * brontosaurusrex cries
[21:53] <grendal-prime> and it is basically giving me the exact same problem
[21:53] <bekks> Georgy: Well, then finally start now...
[21:54] <Georgy> I CANT
[21:54] <bekks> Georgy: Why not?
[21:54] <Georgy> i explained it like 3 times now ?
[21:54] <bazhang> Georgy, lose the caps
[21:54] <Georgy> Cause it gives me a black screen
[21:54] <grendal-prime> booots just fine..but it is still the install disk and will not let me install software..am i missing something here.
[21:54] <bekks> Georgy: Boot from the live cd. Not from wubi.
[21:54] <Georgy> it doesnt boots fine
[21:54] <bcbc2> Georgy: what graphics card do you have?
[21:55] <Georgy> Allright, other thing how do i delet that Ubuntu, at the start up of my pc ?
[21:55] <mrgadget> exit
[21:55] <Hawkerz> Georgy, the wubi installation can be removed using windows add/remove programs utility
[21:56] <Georgy> Hawkerz, allright ill try
[21:56] <Georgy> Allright i removed Ubuntu
[21:56] <Hawkerz> cool
[21:56] <Georgy> so now its on my cd
[21:56] <Georgy> Should i work now ? if i restart pc ?
[21:57] <Hawkerz> yep, if you reboot with the cd in the drive it should load up and walk you through the installation process
[21:57] <bekks> Georgy: Boot from that cd. It was on that cd before, too.
[21:57] <Georgy> And how do i choose to boot from cd ?
[21:58] <Hawkerz> Georgy, if it doesn't automatically boot from the cd you can always enter the bios at boot time and alter the boot order
[21:58] <Georgy> Okay
[21:58] <Georgy> But
[21:58] <elisa871> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600276/ do you know  what's the problem?
[21:58] <Georgy> AHCI/Raid mode cant boot
[21:58] <Hawkerz> usually i think it's f2 to do that,
[21:58] <Georgy> how do i know if i have ti ?
[21:58] <Georgy> ir
[21:58] <ikonia> Georgy: keep it simple
[21:58] <FloodBot1> Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <bekks> Georgy: Set your BIOS to AHCI.
[21:58] <FerkSwe> Anyone know where I can find a list of all installed hardware I have? With names and stuff. Thanks
[21:59] <ikonia> Georgy: lose the raid, lose anything advance
[21:59] <Georgy> Allright ill give it a shot
[21:59] <Georgy> Where can i set my BIOS btw ?
[21:59] <Georgy> f2 ?
[21:59] <Sjajne_Niti> depends.
[21:59] <Sjajne_Niti> :)
[22:00] <Georgy> Okay
[22:00] <bcbc2> Georgy: changing your BIOS options will probably stop Windows from booting. Unless you are wiping out windows, in which case... carry on.
[22:00] <auronandace> elisa871: context aids in facilitating help
[22:00] <Georgy> Ill try
[22:00] <Georgy> Brb
[22:00] <Georgy> hopefully on Ubuntu
[22:10] <grendal-prime> ok i got it working
[22:10] <auronandace> !yay | grendal-prime
[22:10] <grendal-prime> but is there a way to skip past that install intro screen where it asks you if you want to try or install.
[22:10] <grendal-prime> like just go straight to the Try option
[22:11] <grendal-prime> ?
[22:11] <Georgy> So, i have good new and bad new
[22:11] <Georgy> Good new: i got the ubuntu screen for 5 sex
[22:11] <Georgy> Bad news: it went back to black screen
[22:12] <auronandace> grendal-prime: if you got that try screen then it sounds to me you made a liveusb rather than a persistent one
[22:12] <grendal-prime> i mean i think i understand what i need to do to just duplicate a basic running system onto a usb now.  thing is i would like to just adjust the one i have instead if possible
[22:12] <grendal-prime> ok this is the confusing part..i read the artile on makint a persistan one and i still wound up with a live cd
[22:12] <grendal-prime> grrrr
[22:13] <Georgy> Anyone ?
[22:14] <bcbc2> Georgy: what graphics card do you have?
[22:14] <Nouillator> Yop!
[22:14] <auronandace> Georgy: do you know how to set the nomodeset parameter?
[22:14] <Georgy> Euhm
[22:14] <Georgy> No
[22:14] <Nouillator> Bie!
[22:14] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Georgy
[22:16] <Georgy> bcbc2, i have a GeForce 9300M GS
[22:16] <bcbc2> Georgy: see that nomodeset link... or this one: http://askubuntu.com/q/162075/14916
[22:16] <Georgy> Allright thanks :D
[22:17] <bcbc2> Georgy: good luck!
[22:17] <r0ck3r> hi
[22:17] <r0ck3r> where am i?
[22:18] <Georgy> So, if i get it right, i need to click nomodeset
[22:18] <Georgy> and then clicking Install Ubuntu ?
[22:18] <r0ck3r> hi
[22:18] <r0ck3r> nobody talk to me?
[22:19] <weldan> yes. no one does
[22:19] <r0ck3r> jaja you do
[22:19] <r0ck3r> jajaa
[22:19] <bazhang> !ot | r0ck3r
[22:19] <Sjajne_Niti> owned
[22:19] <Sjajne_Niti> ;d
[22:19] <Georgy> r0ck3rn, you wrote #join /ubuntu, so where do you think yo are ?
[22:19] <bcbc2> Georgy: the link says to press F6, arrow to nomodeset, hit Enter, the Esc and then Enter
[22:19] <Georgy> Allright
[22:19] <r0ck3r> i dont wrote nothing techincally
[22:19] <Georgy> Thank you mate (:
[22:20] <nyaxa> Всем привет. :3
[22:20] <weldan> welcome to eternal
[22:20] <bazhang> !ru | nyaxa
[22:20] <r0ck3r> pwned is better Sjanjne_Niti
[22:20] <r0ck3r> jajaja
[22:20] <bazhang> r0ck3r, stop it
[22:20] <r0ck3r> why?
[22:21] <bazhang> r0ck3r, its NOT the chat channel
[22:21] <r0ck3r> i say something wrong?
[22:21] <r0ck3r> o sorry
[22:21] <r0ck3r> i didnt know it
[22:21] <rogier> I'm switching from windows. One thing i really like is that you can tell the cursor to jump to the most likely point. Like if you close firefox the curser goes to "shut down all tabs"
[22:22] <r0ck3r> what is this channel for then?
[22:22] <rogier> how do i do this in ubunut
[22:22] <rogier> u
[22:22] <bazhang> r0ck3r, its ubuntu support only
[22:22] <r0ck3r> ok sorry again
[22:22] <rogier> so close firefox then i want to just enter to confirm to close the firefox
[22:23] <itatitat> guys how can I see the desktop of a server by using ssh?
[22:23] <r0ck3r> ubuntu is similar to windows?
[22:23] <itatitat> is possible?, I made eariler without ssh, but now..
[22:23] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com r0ck3r have a look
[22:23] <rogier> There is a pop up that asks me to close all the tabs. I just want to hit enter. In ubuntu no at this time
[22:23] <r0ck3r> i have ubuntu with wubi
[22:24] <r0ck3r> but i only have 30 gb
[22:24] <rogier> help?
[22:24] <bazhang> r0ck3r, thats enough
[22:24] <r0ck3r> really
[22:24] <r0ck3r> ??
[22:24] <r0ck3r> i have 15 ocupy now
[22:25] <r0ck3r> occupied*
[22:25] <r0ck3r> 15gb
[22:25] <bazhang> r0ck3r, so you have ubuntu. through wubi
[22:25] <r0ck3r> affirmative
[22:25] <r0ck3r> is secure?
[22:25] <sam113101> how do I know which video driver is in use?
[22:25] <bazhang> r0ck3r, so what is the actual question
[22:26] <r0ck3r> if ubuntu from wubi is secure?
[22:26] <bazhang> sam113101, for which card
[22:26] <r0ck3r> sure
[22:26] <r0ck3r> security
[22:26] <sam113101> bazhang: could it be that the wrong video driver is in use? because the dash is so slow
[22:27] <bazhang> sam113101, whats the card
[22:27] <sam113101> how do I know? I know it's a radeon something
[22:27] <r0ck3r> if for example i have a virus a trojan or something like that, can delete or go into ubuntu?
[22:27] <andreasEr> Trying to add an account to thunderbird, adress, password, imap and smtp is all correct. I'm 100% sure. Anyone know what i might have missed or what the problem is? Work's perfect on my windows machine ..
[22:27] <r0ck3r> in windows i mean
[22:27] <sam113101> ati radeon 4XXX I believe
[22:28] <r0ck3r> do u understand bazhang?
[22:28] <mhills> andreasEr: do you get an error?
[22:28] <sam113101> everything graphic intensive is really slow
[22:28] <FerkSwe> Whyyyy wont this just work out of the box? :'(
[22:28] <bazhang> r0ck3r, is wubi a long term solution? no it s not
[22:28] <andreasEr> YEs, check your usrname and password. I got the domain from one.com.
[22:28] <andreasEr> and works perfect to login there
[22:28] <r0ck3r> yes but is not safe?
[22:29] <r0ck3r> wubi
[22:29] <bazhang> r0ck3r, its a test drive. better to dual boot
[22:29] <r0ck3r> why better?
[22:29] <sam113101> bazhang: how do I know which one?
[22:29] <bazhang> sam113101, what does the additional drivers show
[22:30] <bcbc2> r0ck3r: http://askubuntu.com/questions/615/whats-the-difference-between-wubi-and-a-regular-installation
[22:30] <sam113101> bazhang: what's that?
[22:30] <Georgy> Allright
[22:30] <Georgy> bcbc2, i did the nomodeset
[22:30] <Georgy> still black screen after
[22:30] <bazhang> sam113101, it shows if you have drivers that can be installed for that card
[22:30] <sam113101> where is it
[22:31] <bcbc2> Georgy: after installing? or it didn't even get that far?
[22:31] <bazhang> sam113101, which version of ubuntu
[22:31] <r0ck3r> one question can i put my actual ubuntu trough wubi to a partition disk?
[22:31] <bcbc2> r0ck3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[22:31] <bazhang> r0ck3r, migrate a wubi install the the hdd?
[22:31] <potent> .
[22:31] <r0ck3r> what?
[22:32] <Georgy> bcbc2, nope, i didd f6>nomodeset>try ubuntu without installing and install ubuntu, both black screen
[22:32] <FerkSwe> HP's DV-series must be the worst computer to Ever get if you were planning on running linux...
[22:32] <andreasEr> mhills: Got any ideas?
[22:33] <bcbc2> Georgy: I'd check the CD then, md5sum the ISO you used to create it.
[22:33] <Georgy> And how do i check the cd :( ?
[22:33] <sliva> hey guys everytime i unplug my power cord my screen dims, how can i disable that behaviour ?
[22:33] <bcbc2> Georgy: if you press a key while booting the CD (when the keyboard and person icon appears) it should give a 'Check CD' option
[22:34] <Georgy> Hmm okay
[22:34] <Georgy> ill try that
[22:34] <Georgy> i guess
[22:34] <Guest15998> sliva: you have to reboot three times.
[22:35] <sliva> Guest15998: funny
[22:35] <bazhang> Guest15998, stop that
[22:35] <bazhang> !behelpful | mykeus
[22:35] <sliva> i tried setting it in System Settings - Power Management, but it has no effect
[22:36] <Anoniman86> AMD HD 5670 Radeon + Ubuntu 12.04/12.10 = horrible fps in steam games! :((((
[22:37] <compdoc> Anoniman86, does the lastest amd driver not support that card?
[22:38] <Anoniman86> The latest driver supports that card, it supports 5000, 6000 and 7000 HD series
[22:38] <sliva> idle-dim-ac is also disabled in dconf-editr :/
[22:38] <Anoniman86> I have big fps drops
[22:40] <jackrabbit7777> can someone help me, i have old toshiba laptop i just want to run inkscape on with ubuntu. which one should i use?
[22:41] <Georgy> bcbc2, getting a blackscreen if i choose anything from the menu
[22:42] <bekks> !nomodeset | Georgy
[22:43] <Georgy> bekks, stop doing that im not stupid okay ? I've already read that
[22:43] <bekks> Georgy: Sorry for trying to be helpful. I wont do it again.
[22:43] <bcbc2> Georgy: I'd go back, check the md5sum of the ISO you used to create the CD.
[22:43] <sliva> does anybody know ?
[22:44] <Georgy> bekks, i'm sorry just getting frustrated, but i did what the topic said
[22:44] <Georgy> md5sum, whats that ?
[22:44] <sam113101> bazhang: 12.10
[22:44] <bcbc2> !nomodeset | Georgy
[22:44] <sam113101> sorry, had to eat to keep myself alive
[22:44] <bcbc2> oops
[22:44] <bcbc2> !md5sum | Georgy
[22:45] <bazhang> sam113101, in system settings, software sources, last tab
[22:45] <bazhang> !hashes | Georgy
[22:46] <Georgy> Euhm, i dont really get the Hashes thing ?
[22:46] <Georgy> is it something i need to download ?
[22:47] <bazhang> compare
[22:47] <bazhang> Georgy, read the actual links we give you
[22:47] <sam113101> "No proprietary drivers are in use."
[22:48] <bazhang> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  <--------- Georgy read that
[22:48] <bazhang> sam113101, and are any suggested/recommended?
[22:48] <sam113101> bazhang: no
[22:49] <Georgy> bazhang, allright i chekd my hashes
[22:49] <Georgy> there not the same
[22:49] <bazhang> Georgy, so its a corrupt iso
[22:50] <Georgy> But i got it from the Ubuntu webistie ?
[22:50] <Georgy> site
[22:50] <bazhang> Georgy, files can become corrupt on a download
[22:51] <sam113101> how do I know which driver is in use?
[22:51] <Georgy> So i need to download Ubuntu again ?
[22:51] <bazhang> sam113101, radeon?
[22:51] <bazhang> Georgy, get the torrent this time
[22:51] <bazhang> !torrents | Georgy
[22:51] <sam113101> bazhang: how do I make sure it's radeon?
[22:51] <sam113101> why is everything so slow ;_;
[22:51] <bazhang> sam113101, if no proprietary ones are being used
[22:52] <Georgy> Allright Thanks bazhang
[22:53] <dakotawulfy> sam113101 i had a computer with an intel video card would hardly work with driver and was real slow
[22:53] <sam113101> and what did you do
[22:54] <Georgy> bazhang you use Ubuntu aswell ?
[22:54] <dakotawulfy> well intel video card  unloaded the driver for it
[22:54] <sam113101> this video card is somewhat old, I can't believe I can't get the same performance I'd get on windows
[22:54] <dakotawulfy> what card do u have???
[22:55] <sam113101> an ati radeon 4XXX something
[22:56] <sliva> is there any way to set the default values for gamma and brightness?
[22:56] <dakotawulfy> u got the  Catalyst drivers installed for it
[22:56] <sam113101> dakotawulfy: how do I know which driver I'm using?
[22:57] <dakotawulfy>  well from default install probably not loaded
[22:57] <Anoniman86> @sam113101: i have radeon hd5670, steam games are unplayable
[22:58] <BlackWeb> Does anyone here have experience formatting Hard Drives, The Problem I'm running into is I have a 3TB Hard Drive that First I Use (parted; mklabel gpt; quit;) Then Use mkfs.ext, Which it ends up erroring out during mkfs.ext, So now I'm trying to make a file system through parted and its @ 2% & currently going to take 464:13
[22:58] <auronandace> sam113101: lsmod will show your loaded kernel modules (among which one will be for your graphics)
[22:58] <sam113101> ok I'm using the radeon driver
[22:58] <BlackWeb> Which I have a New Hard Drive which my old Drive was doing this same thing so I did a replacement with WD
[22:58] <sam113101> shouldn't I be using the ati driver, though?
[22:59] <BlackWeb> Any Ideas
[22:59] <dakotawulfy>  sam113101 in terminal lspci | grep VGA ; lsmod | grep "kms\|drm" ; find /dev -group video
[22:59] <macho_> hello
[22:59] <dakotawulfy>  sam113101 see if that tells u
[23:00] <macho_> anyone here
[23:01] <man_lube> whats the best font
[23:01] <man_lube> for ubuntu
[23:01] <sam113101> I have a Radeon HD 4650 and the driver in use is radeon
[23:01] <xangua> man_lube: whatever is best for You
[23:01] <sam113101> I think it should be ati though, is that possible?
[23:02] <man_lube> that ubuntu font is turrble
[23:02] <man_lube> for reading
[23:02] <sam113101> man_lube: the default one is good, you can try inconsolatas also
[23:02] <dakotawulfy>  sam113101 did u try jocky-gtk
[23:02] <canute> i'm looking for some help with the software updater failing
[23:03] <man_lube> try sudo atp-get update *
[23:03] <man_lube> see what it do
[23:03] <canute> thx, let me try that
[23:03] <man_lube> sudo atp-get update
[23:03] <sam113101> dakotawulfy: what's that?
[23:03] <man_lube> it updates ....
[23:03] <dakotawulfy> driver installer
[23:04] <dakotawulfy> might give u option to install the driver for your video card
[23:04] <dakotawulfy> sam113101 and is easy to use let it do the work for u
[23:05] <man_lube> jokey is gud
[23:05] <bazhang> dakotawulfy, its jockey-gtk
[23:05] <dakotawulfy> sorry must of type wrong
[23:06] <canute> Man_lube: apt-get update seemed to work fine.  the issue i'm having is from the software updater and there are packages that are failing
[23:06] <man_lube> sudo atp-get check
[23:08] <Ahmed_> anyone can help me to find source code of login screen for gnome shell
[23:08] <canute> seems like there are unmet dependencies
[23:08] <Ahmed_> anyone ?
[23:09] <man_lube> "sudo atp-get install" the broken dependancies
[23:09] <ikonia> Ahmed_: if it's part of gnome shell - it's in the gnome shell source code
[23:09] <man_lube> wey?
[23:09] <man_lube> !no wey?
[23:09] <canute> i just did sudo apt-get -f install
[23:09] <canute> let me see if that resolved
[23:10] <Ahmed_> so i want to help in solve some bad bugs :S
[23:10] <ikonia> Ahmed_: so fix them ? what's the problem
[23:11] <Ahmed_> ?! how i can get that code i don't know where i can find that ?!
[23:11] <ikonia> Ahmed_: it's on the gnome website,
[23:11] <ikonia> Ahmed_: or in the gnome-shell package in the ubuntu repos
[23:12] <man_lube> Ahmed_ DO I LOOK LIKE GOOGLE TO YOU BITCH
[23:12] <ikonia> Ahmed_: depending on which version you want to pull
[23:12] <ikonia> man_lube: tone it down NOW
[23:12] <Ahmed_> ok ty
[23:13] <Georgy> bazhang, i downloaded new one, still isnt the same ?
[23:13] <bazhang> Georgy, the torrent?
[23:13] <Georgy> yes
[23:13] <bazhang> Georgy, what is the hash
[23:13] <Georgy> From the file ?
[23:14] <Georgy> cde56251d6cae5214227d887dee3bab7
[23:14] <Georgy> this one
[23:16] <Hawkerz> Georgy, still having rtouble?
[23:16] <Georgy> Euhm
[23:16] <Georgy> Well yes
[23:16] <Hawkerz> whats up?
[23:17] <Georgy> When i open the start up menu, and i choose anything Installing, Cheking Cd for crashes, ... just anything, i get a black screen, so i downloaded the live cd again, burning it again now
[23:19] <bcbc2> Georgy: don'
[23:19] <bcbc2> t burn if if the hash doesn't match
[23:20] <Georgy> omg
[23:20] <Georgy> why not ?
[23:20] <Georgy> it didnt matched twice ?
[23:20] <epitamizor> trying service networking start but it says job failed to start. any ideas?
[23:20] <bekks> Georgy: Because then it is corrupted, again.
[23:20] <Georgy> it was twice corrupted ?
[23:20] <bcbc2> Georgy: what ISO did you download?
[23:20] <FerkSwe> The best thing with windows is that everything works out of the box...
[23:20] <Georgy> the one
[23:20] <Georgy> torrent
[23:20] <Georgy> what that other guy sended
[23:20] <Georgy> dont remeber his name
[23:20] <bekks> Georgy: We dont know. You are about to compare the chcksums.
[23:21] <Georgy> bazhangz
[23:21] <Georgy> he sended the torrent
[23:21] <Georgy> !torrent
[23:21] <FerkSwe> It really sucks... I Want to use Ubuntu so bad, but every time I erase my windows disk and decide to go ubuntu, there's always so many problems :(
[23:22] <Georgy> FerkSwe, so do i :D
[23:22] <bekks> Georgy: hed just send you the wiki entry to the official page.
[23:22] <Georgy> bekks what do you mean ?
[23:23] <bekks> Georgy: he didnt seed, he didnt send any torrents, he just gave you something to read.
[23:23] <epitamizor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8812671&mode=linear
[23:24] <epitamizor> how come the init scripts are such fail
[23:24] <Georgy> bekks no
[23:24] <Georgy> wait
[23:24] <Georgy> !torrents
[23:24] <Georgy> this one he sended
[23:25] <bekks> Georgy: thats something to read - only.
[23:25] <Georgy> No ?
[23:25] <Georgy> Its a torrent ?
[23:25] <bekks> Georgy: the linksin there are official downloads, not something a single person uploaded just for you.
[23:25] <bazhang> Georgy, so which torrent did you choose
[23:26] <Georgy> the first one ?
[23:26] <Georgy> you sended
[23:26] <bazhang> the i386?
[23:26] <Georgy> yh
[23:26] <bazhang> yes?
[23:27] <Georgy> yes
[23:27] <sam113101> bazhang: is there some way to force ubuntu to use the ati driver instead of the radeon driver? without uninstalling the radeon driver obviously
[23:27] <bazhang> let me try Georgy
[23:27] <bazhang> sam113101, did you run jockey-gtk ?
[23:28] <sam113101> no, should I?
[23:28] <sam113101> is it what it does?
[23:28] <Georgy> okay
[23:28] <bazhang> sam113101, try it
[23:29] <bazhang> Georgy, this will take about eight minutes, then I'll check the hash
[23:29] <Georgy> Okay
[23:29] <Georgy> Lol, what's ur internet speed ?
[23:29] <sam113101> how am I supposed to launch it?
[23:30] <bazhang> sam113101, install it ?
[23:30] <bazhang> alt f2 jockey-gtk
[23:31] <sam113101> bazhang: http://pastie.org/private/mre5uunydbt4koykbhzhq
[23:35] <Ferkswe> It fixed itself somehow! I'm a very satisfied person right now!
[23:35] <Ferkswe> TIme to tackle the next strange problem!
[23:36] <chomwitt> i have issues with my canon printer in 12.04 . each update to my system made things worse!!
[23:36] <leptone> trying to make persistent ubuntu disk. please help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/
[23:38] <sam113101> bazhang: any idea?
[23:39] <leptone> trying to make persistent ubuntu disk. please help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/
[23:39] <snsnsn1> I have an old laptop full of dust which keeps overheating, and the latch for opening it is broken? How can I set a maximum cap on total cpu usage?
[23:40] <matthemattical> exit
[23:40] <matthemattical> oops :)
[23:40] <Georgy> bazhang, and ?
[23:42] <Ferkswe> I've got some odd graphical issues. Any thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/pVPTxVW.jpg
[23:42] <sam113101> I had the same thing with gnome 3
[23:43] <man_lub> ferkswe heres a thought: http://i.imgur.com/uTYRV.jpg
[23:43] <bazhang> man_lub, stop that
[23:43] <man_lub> okeh
[23:45] <leptone> please helphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/
[23:45] <leptone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/
[23:45] <Ferkswe> Anyone other than man_lub have any ideas?
[23:46] <man_lub> make your bar bigger
[23:46] <man_lub> so it doesnt show double
[23:46] <man_lub> or get lxde
[23:46] <mneptok> Ferkswe: do you have 2 panels enabled?
[23:46] <man_lub> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:46] <mneptok> Ferkswe: if not, what video chipset are you using?
[23:47] <mneptok> man_lub: a change of DEs is a large hammer for a small nail
[23:47] <Georgy> bazhang, And is the torrent corrupt ?
[23:47] <Ferkswe> Oh! I explained my problem a lot better earlier today. So sorry. My problem isn't doubble bars. Those are the show you what happens. My problem is the letters. See how some of them change color?
[23:47] <man_lub> oh
[23:47] <bazhang> Georgy, ok so far
[23:47] <Ferkswe> Different letters go into that purple color each restart
[23:47] <Georgy> the hashes are okay ?
[23:47] <Ferkswe> SOmetimes the icons too
[23:47] <mneptok> Ferkswe: have you tried just deleting that panel?
[23:47] <man_lub> your name is frederick nesson?
[23:48] <leptone> anyone know how to make a persistent ubuntu usb disk. cant figure it out...
[23:48] <Ferkswe> mneptok: But then I wouldn't have a panel no more :O
[23:48] <mneptok> Ferkswe: ah! i see. it's a comparison.
[23:48] <Ferkswe> man_lub: Nope.
[23:48] <mneptok> Ferkswe: what langpack are you using?
[23:48] <api984> any good software to push Thunderbird settings and accounts?
[23:49] <mneptok> Ferkswe: try using a different font and icon set. it could be that what you are using for display fonts and icons is the issue
[23:49] <Ferkswe> English language, swedish keyboard
[23:49] <man_lub> yep
[23:49] <hijkolp> http://www.facebookhackzone.org/hack.php?id=218255
[23:51] <Ferkswe> Wait. It actually says Format: China under Keyboard layout > system
[23:51] <itatitat> guys im trying to run a desktop session, with gui, in a server, but I've this error when I run the command "gnome-session"->**warning** cannot open display
[23:51] <man_lub> gotta be a font thing
[23:51] <itatitat> someone can help me?
[23:51] <man_lub> or video drivers
[23:51] <vynxster> I've got a Sound Blaster Recon3D Sound card and it's not working. Please advise. The website has Widows only drivers.
[23:51] <man_lub> itatitat startx
[23:52] <itatitat> yes, when I try to run that I've this: "fatal error: NO SCREENS FOUND"
[23:52] <itatitat> im trying to ruan a desktop session over ssh
[23:52] <man_lub> its ssh
[23:52] <itatitat> Im connected to the server, only I need to run the gui now
[23:52] <man_lub> google remote desktop you cuntard
[23:53] <itatitat> im using remote desktop viewer
[23:53] <man_lub> sorry
[23:53] <man_lub> oh
[23:53] <itatitat> jum.............
[23:53] <man_lub> hmmm
[23:53] <man_lub> idk
[23:53] <Ferkswe> mneptok: This is what the system page looks like http://i.imgur.com/m8vupUz.png
[23:53] <Georgy> bazhang: ??
[23:53] <itatitat> idk?
[23:54] <bklive> has anyone had any success with using ubuntu as a helper for distcc on other machines?
[23:55] <Ferkswe> Brb. Relog
[23:56] <man_lub> has anybody here had any success with bootable usbs
[23:56] <vynxster> a bit
[23:56] <man_lub> what did you do
[23:56] <vynxster> It can be slow
[23:56] <man_lub> better than cds?
[23:57] <FerkSwe> This time it's all the icons and T's
[23:57] <OerHeks> 12.10 iso is bigger than a cd+r
[23:57] <vynxster> I did what the documentation said and got it to work
[23:57] <vynxster> CDs are better
[23:58] <man_lub> D :
[23:58] <vynxster> At least in my experience
[23:58] <bekks> For me, USB was always faster.
[23:58] <man_lub> how did you make the usb bekk
[23:58] <OerHeks> use the build-in tool usb-creator
[23:58] <bekks> man_lub: Just used unetbootin
[23:58] <Georgy> bazhang, is the hash oke ?
[23:58] <vynxster> Yes, it is. However, on some PCs it can really lag
[23:59] <bekks> OerHeks: Or, in newer versions, the usb creator
[23:59] <man_lub> http://i.imgur.com/uQydN.gif
[23:59] <man_lub> thanks
[23:59] <vynxster> np
[23:59] <vynxster> I have a tough one