[00:47] <Noskcaj> pleia2, is that enough or do you want bits copied from the wiki?
[00:49]  * pleia2 has a look and makes some notes
[05:14] <pleia2> oh, I was made admin of the G+ community
[05:14] <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/u/1/communities/108369189560969273265
[05:14] <pleia2> so we can probably officialize this one too (this is a community, vs a page which we already had)
[10:38] <knome> pleia2, good good. let me tell if/what logo sizes/artwork you need
[10:38] <knome> and yes, we should sort out the deviantart group artwork too
[10:55] <ochosi> ah right...
[10:55] <ochosi> forgot a bit about that one
[10:56] <knome> me too
[11:10] <bluesabre> micahg, it might be easier to get an FFe for catfish, since the one that is currently in the raring repos is broken
[11:10] <bluesabre> (doesn't start)
[11:16] <adnan> long time no see
[11:27] <ochosi> hey adnan 
[11:27] <ochosi> true true
[11:32] <adnan> :)
[11:45] <ochosi> madderni1k: ping
[11:45] <madderni1k> ochosi: png
[11:45] <madderni1k> +o*
[11:46] <ochosi> is it possible to test plymouth's fsck check animation in the testbinary somehow?
[11:46] <madderni1k> yes
[11:46] <madderni1k> I dont remember how, lemme check my scripts
[11:46] <ochosi> have you tested that with the circular spinner?
[11:47] <madderni1k> I've tested all features
[11:48] <ochosi> ah good
[11:48] <madderni1k> ochosi: okay, so pass the command
[11:48] <madderni1k> --command, option
[11:49] <madderni1k> basically it looks for fsck being given to the status handler
[11:50] <ochosi> ok, i'll just quickly wait for bluesabre to return
[11:50] <madderni1k> so i supposed i lied, its --status=fsck
[11:50] <ochosi> he does a real-install check now
[11:50] <madderni1k> (problem is I dont have access to the laptops tests scripts :()
[11:59] <ochosi> madderni1k: so yeah, the spinner and the progressbar overlap
[12:01] <bluesabre> is it possible to hide the spinner if fsck needs to run?
[12:01] <ochosi> i think it's easier to just change the coordinates of the progressbar tbh
[12:01] <knome> yes
[12:01] <ochosi> madderni1k: how do i run plymouth again in testmode? (forgot the commandline you gave me once)
[12:04] <madderni1k> sudo plymouthd --debug --debug-file=/tmp/plymouth-debug-out ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 5 ;  sudo plymouth --quit
[12:04] <madderni1k> define overlap?
[12:05] <madderni1k> iirc its 25px between them
[12:06] <ochosi> the new spinner is circular and larger and further south
[12:07] <ochosi> if you remember the latest changes
[12:07] <madderni1k> oh ye, we moved it down
[12:09] <ochosi> strange, the --status=fsck doesn't work
[12:09] <ochosi> i added it after --show-splash
[12:13] <madderni1k> think you need to do --update aswell
[12:13] <madderni1k> i dont really remember the exact command
[12:13] <ochosi> no, that also didn't help
[12:16] <madderni1k> ochosi: found it
[12:16] <madderni1k> sudo plymouthd --debug --debug-file=/tmp/plymouth-debug-out ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 1 ; sudo plymouth --update=fsck: ; sleep 2 ; sudo plymouth --quit
[12:16] <madderni1k> ofc the animation will be fubar, since one needs to send update integers along with it if you want the real thing
[12:16] <madderni1k> but for positioning thats fine
[12:17] <ochosi> weird, doesn't show anything here...
[12:18] <madderni1k> try increasing the sleeps
[12:18] <madderni1k> the second sleep to many 5 seconds
[12:18] <madderni1k> it shows "Routine disk check" and the bar
[12:18] <madderni1k> about 10px to high up
[12:19] <ochosi> the progressbar goes straight through the circle
[12:19] <ochosi> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03092013-011928pm.php
[12:20] <madderni1k> fsck_progress_meter_sprite.SetPosition((screen_width / 2) - (progress_meter_image.GetWidth() / 2), (screen_height / 2) + (logotype_image.GetHeight() / 2) + 25);
[12:20] <madderni1k> fsck_progress_fade_sprite.SetPosition((screen_width / 2) - (progress_meter_image.GetWidth() / 2), (screen_height / 2) + (logotype_image.GetHeight() / 2) + 25);
[12:21] <ochosi> i know
[12:21] <ochosi> i'm already tinkering with it
[12:21] <ochosi> but i need to move everything along
[12:21] <ochosi> incl. the password box
[12:24] <ochosi> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03092013-012420pm.php
[12:24] <ochosi> madderni1k: any way i can show the password-box too?
[12:26] <ochosi> awesome... http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03092013-012614pm.php
[12:26] <madderni1k> sudo plymouthd --debug --debug-file=/tmp/plymouth-debug-out ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 1 ; sudo plymouth --update=fsck: ; sleep 1 ; sudo plymouth ask-for-password --prompt "spify password: " ; sleep 5 ; sudo plymouth --quit
[12:27] <madderni1k> tbh, i didnt even think about this
[12:27] <ochosi> is there an easy way to hide the spinner for fsck?
[12:27] <madderni1k> i knew all the individual features worked
[12:27] <madderni1k> ochosi: yes
[12:28] <madderni1k> SetOpacity(100)
[12:28] <ochosi> if ((fsck_running == 1) && (fsck_done_fading == 0)) { ?
[12:28] <ochosi> you mean SetOpacity(0)?
[12:28] <madderni1k> oh ye
[12:35] <ochosi> meh, in which functions do i have to hide the spinner?
[12:35] <madderni1k> ochosi: do you want to hide it when the password appears?
[12:36] <ochosi> yes, and when fsck is running too
[12:36] <ochosi> those two might coincide i guess
[12:36] <ochosi> so just to be sure, always hide it
[12:37] <madderni1k> in the showPasswordHandler and statusHandler when status_array[0] is equal to "fsck"
[12:37] <madderni1k> reset possible in displayNormalhandler
[12:37] <ochosi> do you have time to try this now?
[12:38] <ochosi> cause i have a few more things i have to get fixed on the weekend
[12:38] <ochosi> lightdm-gtk-greeter and a few more icons
[12:38] <madderni1k> do you have the changes you've made?
[12:38] <ochosi> they're not too great tbh, i mostly changed the coordinates of the fsck-bar
[12:39] <madderni1k> ok
[12:39] <ochosi> which won't be necessary in the end (hopefully)
[12:39] <ochosi> and i added SetOpacity for the spinner in a few places
[12:40] <madderni1k> i suppose i can just make the changes
[12:40] <madderni1k> and upl
[12:40] <ochosi> yeah
[12:40] <ochosi> you can also pastebin them so we can test them in advance
[12:40] <madderni1k> ok
[12:41] <ochosi> thanks!
[12:49] <madderni1k> ochosi: should i move password thing down
[12:50] <ochosi> is it overlaying anything?
[12:51] <madderni1k> if password is there
[12:51] <ochosi> yeah, we don't want anything to overlap :)
[12:52] <madderni1k> its just that
[12:52] <madderni1k> im not sure that can happen
[12:52] <ochosi> that means we should move it iguess
[12:52] <ochosi> as long as we're not sure
[12:57] <madderni1k> ochosi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5598756/
[12:57] <madderni1k> that seems to do it on all accounts
[12:57] <madderni1k> it even restores states if it comes to that
[12:57] <madderni1k> So the spinner can come back, if you are done with fsck and password
[12:59] <ochosi> ok cool
[12:59] <ochosi> i'll test that in a second
[13:03] <ochosi> madderni1k: that gives me a black screen
[13:04] <madderni1k> ochosi: odd, it does not here
[13:04] <madderni1k> no errors encountered in the log either
[13:05] <ochosi> hmm
[13:06] <madderni1k> ochosi: perhaps the pastebin corrupted something
[13:06] <madderni1k> want me to upl to my server for fetching?
[13:06] <ochosi> ok, why not
[13:09] <ochosi> madderni1k: thanks, looking good now!
[13:09] <ochosi> bluesabre: you still around?
[13:10] <madderni1k> ochosi: THhere are 2 possible problems
[13:10] <madderni1k> one of them is: the msgs one can get
[13:10] <madderni1k> The "last 5 msgs" feature
[13:10] <madderni1k> Might be overlapping something
[13:11] <ochosi> can we test that?
[13:11] <madderni1k> ye im trying to figure out how :P
[13:11] <ochosi> ok :)
[13:11] <bluesabre> hm what huh?
[13:11] <bluesabre> :)
[13:11] <ochosi> mind to quickly test the plymouth script?
[13:12] <bluesabre> with my install?
[13:12] <ochosi> i'd mail it to you, you save it in /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo and then run sudo shutdown -rF now
[13:12] <ochosi> yup
[13:12] <bluesabre> sure thing
[13:13] <ochosi> sent
[13:15] <madderni1k> ochosi: i think msgs are okay
[13:17] <madderni1k> it always uses the bottom
[13:17] <madderni1k> So its fine
[13:17] <madderni1k> :)
[13:18] <ochosi> ok
[13:18] <ochosi> good
[13:18] <ochosi> what is the second possible problem?
[13:19] <madderni1k> well, the spinner_sprite doesnt technically have a sprite at first
[13:19] <madderni1k> but its not a problem
[13:19] <madderni1k> since it will have it before fsck or passw can appear
[13:19] <madderni1k> Its just not very clean
[13:20] <madderni1k> im concidering adding it for "being clean" purposes
[13:20] <ochosi> i guess that's up to you, i haven't looked into plymouth enough to be able to judgew
[13:21] <madderni1k> okay, tell me how testing goes, i need to do my workout and eat now
[13:22] <ochosi> sure
[13:25] <pjotr> Hello, does anyone know if Synaptic will be a default part of Xubuntu 13.04?
[13:28] <ochosi> i'm pretty sure it won't
[13:30] <pjotr> ochosi: Too bad.... I think it's an essential tool and deserves a place in the iso. Is there no more room in the iso, in spite of the new maximum of 1 GB?
[13:36] <bluesabre> ochosi: that works
[15:15] <mr_pouit> knome: micahg: I set up translation support for the two desktop files you uploaded https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/+pots/xds-desktop-files
[15:16] <mr_pouit> (please do it when you add new "visible" strings next time, as my life seems meaningless each time I have to fight against translations.lp.net ;-)
[15:31] <knome> mr_pouit, thanks, did the finnish translations
[17:52] <ochosi> bluesabre, madderni1k: i'll push the updated plymouth script then
[17:57] <madderni1k> roger that
[17:58] <ochosi> ok, pushed
[17:59] <pleia2> ochosi: did you want a spot in the magazine for an article? what topic? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013 has current ideas
[18:00] <ochosi> hey pleia2 
[18:00] <pleia2> good morning :)
[18:00] <ochosi> haven't really given that any thought tbh
[18:00] <ochosi> it's 7pm here ;)
[18:00] <pleia2> 10am!
[18:00] <ochosi> what magazine is that?
[18:01] <pleia2> a special flavors edition published by linuxidentity.com
[18:01] <pleia2> in English (not French)
[18:02] <ochosi> french is only my third language, so that's fine ;)
[18:04] <ochosi> pleia2: at the moment i'm rather busy and the topics you still have there seem quite easy to cover, so if you can find someone else, that'd be great
[18:04] <ochosi> beta1 is approaching and there's still artwork to fix and our greeter needs more updates
[18:04] <pleia2> ochosi: those are just ideas people proposed, we're trying to find other ideas
[18:05] <ochosi> ah
[18:05] <ochosi> i see
[18:05] <ochosi> hm, it's dinner time for me now
[18:05] <ochosi> i'll think a bit about it and add topics if i get ideas, k?
[18:06] <pleia2> thanks :)
[18:07] <ochosi> great, bbl
[20:01] <mr_pouit> knome: first ffe, Bug #1153038
[20:02] <mr_pouit> freeze on thursday are really a pain since I've only time to work on ubuntu during week-ends these days...
[21:25] <knome> mr_pouit, great... i assume i don't need to file the exception ? ;)