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RaphaelBarrosGreat, my microphone stopped being recognized for no apparent reason :(02:49
joshuafcoleIs there a way to integrate rm with the recycle bin? E.g. I'd like to make an alias that shadows the rm command and dumps the files into the same location that deletion in dolphin does. Does anybody know what directory that would be in (or flags I'd need to set, or whatever else?)03:12
tsimpsonjoshuafcole: you can use kde-mv03:16
tsimpsonbut you'd probably want a script, because kde-mv only takes one source03:16
tsimpsonbut "kde-mv file trash:/" is the basic thing you're after03:17
joshuafcoleOkay, cool. I'll play with it a bit and see what I come up with. I'd been meaning to do it for a while now since once in a while I really wish I didn't have such strong muscle memory for rm -rf, and I thought I'd give it a shot now before something catastrophic occurred. =P03:18
joshuafcoleThanks!03:18
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amigamiade=desktop experience?04:35
Bradley24i just upgraded (clean install) to Kubuntu 12.10. How do i cascade the program windows?04:39
Bradley24Right clicking doesnt bring it up in the menu any more. More precisely, what is the keyboard combination in Kubuntu 12.10 to cascade the windows on the desktop?04:43
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CoJaBoI have a "Konsole: Bell in session shell" notice open; is there ANY way to close this without restarting Konsole or the system? :/05:11
Obsidian1723is kubuntu moving away from xorg?05:11
DarthFrogObsidian1723:  Well, it's not moving towards Mir.05:11
Obsidian1723Wayland?05:12
DarthFrogObsidian1723:  I don't know.  If KDE supports Wayland, then perhaps.05:13
DarthFrogBut KDE (i.e. Kwin) has already said that any patches to support Mir will be vetoed.05:14
Bradley24what is Mir?05:14
DarthFrogSo if Ubuntu won't support Wayland, where's the impetus for Kubuntu to do the work themselves?05:14
Obsidian1723Mir is the new windowing display for Ubuntu05:14
DarthFrogBradley24: It's an in-house project by Ubuntu to replace X.05:15
Bradley24DarthFrog: thanx.05:15
Obsidian1723Why not just stick with X?05:15
tsimpsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec05:16
DarthFrogObsidian1723:  Mark Shuttleworth has a vision for Ubuntu to be run on all devices, from smartphones & tablets to desktops, to have the same experience on every device.05:16
CoJaBoI literally can't get this thing to go away; ideas?05:16
Obsidian1723DarthFrog: Yeah, I know, Bill Gates Wanna Be.05:16
Obsidian1723Why can't Kubuntu say with X?05:16
DarthFrogCoJaBo:  Press CTL-ALT-Esc (i.e. invoke xkill) then click in the window to be destroyed.05:17
CoJaBoDarthFrog: It just kills the window underneith it05:17
DarthFrogObsidian1723:  he has a good vision, methinks.  Consumer computing (i.e. for content consumption, not production) is massively moving towards moble devices & consoles.05:18
DarthFrogCoJaBo: It kills the window you click in.05:18
Obsidian1723DarthFrog: for some things, not everything.05:18
CoJaBoDarthFrog: Yeh, but the notification "window" isn't accepting clicks, they just pass thru to the window "behind" it05:18
DarthFrogCoJaBo:  you could always press: Alt-SysRq-K simultaneously.05:19
Obsidian1723Why can't Kubuntu just stick with X?05:19
CoJaBoIt would REALLY suck to have to shut everything down just for this :/05:19
DarthFrogObsidian1723: I doubt any hard & fast firm decision has been made.  I would imagine that what ever upstream decides to support will win the day.05:20
Bradley24Does anyone know how to pull up the context menu that allows cascading of windows?05:21
Obsidian1723I guess. I don't see X going away. If Kubuntu diverges from it, there's always Debian probably to go to. I know X is limited, but it's well-developed, stable, works fairly well, I think Wayland could be the same, in time.05:21
CoJaBoDarthFrog: So theres no other way can think of other than to reboot? :/05:23
DarthFrogCoJaBo:  Just restart X.05:24
CoJaBoThat would kill all my remote sessions05:24
DarthFrogThen ignore it.05:24
CoJaBoIt is large and in the way05:24
CoJaBoIs there a way to kill/restart whatever thing displays that?05:24
DarthFrogIf xkill won't remove it, it's probably not being displayed by a process.05:25
DarthFrogDId you try refreshing the desktop?05:25
CoJaBoRefreshing?05:26
DarthFrogF5 when the desktop has the focus.05:26
CoJaBoIt displays over all open windows05:26
DarthFrogOr right-click on the desktop, choose Refresh Desktop.05:26
DarthFrogIs it present in all virtual desktops?05:27
CoJaBoYes; even tried switching activities05:27
CoJaBoTried changing the resolution and back, it WILL NOT DIE05:27
DarthFrogLooks like you're hosed.05:27
CoJaBoIt looks like I can workaround it by setting every single window to "keep above others"... >_>05:28
CoJaBoWhy did that happen? :/05:30
DarthFrog  Because no non-trivial piece of software is ever bug-free.  Except vi. :-)05:31
CoJaBoheh. vi ftw05:31
CoJaBoThis is a pretty sucky bug tho :/05:31
DarthFrogAnd this bug may be a one-off due to the interaction of the xclient and the xserver in a particular environment.  You had a lock on a sectionof video buffer memory, it sounds like.05:33
CoJaBoDarthFrog: Its slightly dimmed compared to the normal ones; its like it was "fading out" and just gave up in the middle, leaving the animation half-done05:38
CoJaBoIt "behaves" as a normal window other than not being able to accept clicks; i.e., other windows can go in front of and behind it, and can bee seen thru it05:39
DarthFrogCoJaBo:  I've had something similar happen to me before.  If I recall correctly, it was only removed by restarting X.05:40
Bradley24The only online reference I can find is to install Compiz, which I don't wnat to do. I haven't needed to cascade windows in a long tiime, but when i need to, i need to do so badly. Is Kwin able to cascade windows?05:50
CoJaBoIs there a good reference to installing Compiz on Kubuntu? I couldn't get it running on this machine, really miss it :/05:52
DarthFrogCoJaBo:  Use SystemSettings to Enable Desktop Effects.05:52
CoJaBoThat uses Kwin, which provides only extremely basic effects..05:53
DarthFrogI think you'll be surprised. :-)05:54
DarthFrogCompiz has been integrated.05:54
Bradley24i need to be able to cascade windows when i have more than 20 windows open. i cannot find anything using google or blekko that gives any indication that kde can cascade windows. i know it does, because used it last year.05:55
CoJaBoDarthFrog: You are an hero, BTW ==DDD05:55
DarthFrogLOL!05:55
CoJaBoDarthFrog: It occurred to me when you said that- toggling Desktop Effects was the way to finally kill the Phantom of thw XWindows System05:56
CoJaBoDisabling effects clears stuck animations; all it took was Ctrl+Alt+F12 >_>05:57
CoJaBoEr; well, Alt+Shift+F1205:57
DarthFrogGlad to hear it.05:59
CoJaBoDarthFrog: anyway; the one killer feature, being able to set windows transparancy by alt+scroll, was still not possible in KDE without Compiz last I checked :/06:00
DarthFrogI have no idea.  I've never played with that stuff.  I've never grokked the joy of transparent windows. :-)06:00
CoJaBoIt essentually *doubles* the usable screen area :P06:01
CoJaBoIts the main reason my netbook is perpetually stuck on an ancient version of Kubuntu <_<06:01
Bradley24I may have to go back to a previous version, if i can find a way other than to type "qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin org.kde.KWin.cascadeDesktop" every time i need to cascade windows. :(06:05
CoJaBoBradley24: cant you bind that to a shortcut or something ?06:08
Bradley24CoJaBo: is there someplace in system settings that would let me do that?06:09
CoJaBoBradley24: Yeh, theres "Shortcuts and Gestures06:10
CoJaBoBradley24: Theres even a "custom Dbus command" option there, if all else fails..06:11
Bradley24CoJaBo: it only seems to let me hotkey applications.06:17
Bradley24nvrmnd. found the dbus commands06:17
Bradley24CoJaBo: unfortunately i am not smart enough to figure it out. Thank you for the advice though.06:24
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shalokshalomHi there :D I wish, that all off the results, what krunner search, with the Mouse - So maybe with a Button ?08:49
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onebitxajaxhi to all11:15
onebitxajaxGL3/gl3w.h: No such file or directory11:16
onebitxajaxhow can i get them?11:16
onebitxajaxnobody can help?11:28
rork<ubottu> Package/file gl3w.h does not exist in quantal11:28
onebitxajaxrork: how can be that?11:29
rorkonebitxajax: it seems like whatever you are trying to do is not something that's implemented in ubuntu11:30
onebitxajaxrork: opengl??????????????????11:30
rorkso the question is, what are you trying to do that you need that file?11:30
lordievaderonebitxajax: Not sure if this will help, but here is some info about that header file: http://surflab.cise.ufl.edu/wiki/OpenGL_3.x_/_OpenGL_4.0_FreeGLUT_Tutorial11:30
onebitxajaxrork: start developing with opengl 4.011:30
rorkonebitxajax: I have no experience with that. However it seems that gl3w.h is a modified gl3.h. The modification is by this script: https://github.com/skaslev/gl3w so maybe that helps you solve your problem.11:40
rorkonebitxajax: you may also want to ask in ##opengl , maybe they van help you.11:42
onebitxajaxrork: they told me to come here11:46
onebitxajaxbecause my distribution must give those headers11:47
onebitxajaxrork: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgl3w12:01
onebitxajaxi have installed all glew libs12:01
onebitxajaxlibglew1.6 glew-utils libglew1.6-dev12:01
rorkonebitxajax: libglew1.6-dev has a file glew.h but not gl3w.h: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/libglew-dev/filelist12:03
avihaymaybe it's a typo?12:04
onebitxajaxrork: gl3w.h i found it12:04
onebitxajaxmy problem is in ld12:04
onebitxajax/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgl3w12:04
onebitxajaxcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status12:04
jollyjoeHello, i just boot up a kubuntu live-cd but impossible to get dhcp address. i can see traffic using tcpdump, dhclient's output is normal but no packets outgoing. What im doing wrong ?12:06
avihayjollyjoe: try ifconfig the interface down for a few sec and then up again? works for me when I have network problems. also dhclient -v, or you might want to specify the specific interface you want12:11
jollyjoeavihay, thanks but it not solve the problem. Already done.12:14
avihay:-<12:14
cloakableI'm trying to get USB wakeup to work on 12.10, but 'sudo echo USB0 > /proc/acpi/wakeup' doesn't actually change the status of the entry, it remains disabled. Any ideas?12:17
cloakable(Actually, USB1)12:17
mineralshttp://pastebin.com/WjgGTWxD why is it unloading the nvidia driver?12:22
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Ned_Flandershi could anyone help me?12:40
Ned_Flandersi installed ubuntu 12.4 and GNOME and 1.8GB of memory is being used and I don't know why12:41
onebitxajaxNed_Flanders: 1.8 of ram?12:43
Ned_Flandersyes =/12:44
onebitxajaxit's normal i think12:44
Ned_Flanderswtf?12:44
Ned_Flandersthats loads12:44
onebitxajaxnow i have 2.3 used12:44
Ned_Flandersmy server only has 4gb of ram12:45
Ned_Flandersi can't have half of it being used like this12:45
Ned_FlandersI don't think 1.8GB of ram just to run the system is normal at all12:46
onebitxajaxNed_Flanders: i think because gnome. if you want a server install it without gui. or with lubuntu or xubuntu12:46
Ned_Flandersonebit i need a desktop12:47
onebitxajaxNed_Flanders: lubuntu or xubuntu12:47
onebitxajaxNed_Flanders: ty use top o htop o gnome monitor to see what process eat memory12:48
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Ned_Flanderso htop o gnome monitor?12:49
Ned_Flanderswhere do i find that12:49
Guest44025"sudo apt-get install htop"12:49
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Ned_Flandersok i installed it12:51
Ned_Flandershow do i run it12:51
Ned_Flandersnvm found it12:51
FridgemockIn the console window you can click on the "MEM%" column and it will sort by mem usage+12:52
Ned_Flandersunity-2d-shell12:52
Ned_Flanderstaking up aload of memory!12:52
Ned_Flandersand nautilus -n12:52
onebitxajaxLOL12:53
onebitxajaxNed_Flanders: i already say it. it's normal :D12:53
Ned_Flandershow can it be normal12:53
Ned_Flanderswindows doesn't use that much ram to run the desktop12:53
Ned_Flanderswould something like XFCE use less RAM than GNOME ?12:54
Ned_Flandersi can't have this much ram being used for just the desktop12:54
FridgemockWell, GNOME and likewise Unity are not supposed to have a mem usage like that right after install. There is most definetly something wrong.12:56
FridgemockYou said you installed the gnome desktop?12:56
FridgemockAre you logged into unity?12:56
Ned_Flandersyes i am12:57
Ned_Flandersthank you fridgemock for comfirming something is wrong12:57
FridgemockHow much memory is actually used by these individual processes you just listed?12:57
Ned_Flandersi wish i could show u my unity12:58
FridgemockCould you open up the default system monitor via the dash: Windows/super-key and then type "system monitor"13:00
FridgemockShould be a tad easier than the console thingy13:01
Ned_Flandersk13:01
Ned_Flanderson that13:01
Ned_Flanders1.8GIB 45.4% of 4.0 GIB in use13:02
FridgemockClick on the "Processes" tab13:02
Ned_Flandersand i dont even have any programs open13:02
Fridgemockthen on "Memory" column13:02
Ned_Flandersok13:02
Ned_Flandersunity-2d-shell 34.0MiB13:03
Ned_Flandersxvnc4 11.7 MiB13:03
Ned_Flandersnautilus 11.3 MiB13:03
FridgemockKk, let's switch the system process on as well:13:03
FridgemockMenu: View->All Processes13:03
Ned_FlandersHow do i find Menu13:04
Ned_Flandersnvm i got it13:05
FridgemockSo, found any bug memory consumers? Anything using more than xorg?13:08
Fridgemockbig*13:08
Ned_Flandersfridge: http://i50.tinypic.com/dnyjyt.png13:08
Ned_Flanderscan u see?13:11
FridgemockApart from being logged in as root I can't see anything unusual. Since I'm a beginner myself, someone more qualified show dig deeper. Especially since you're talking about servers and such. Sorry, mate.13:12
Fridgemockshould*13:13
Ned_FlandersAh... perhaps unity just uses alot of memory?13:13
Ned_FlandersMaybe I should uninstall Gnome and use some less memory intensive13:13
Ned_Flandersits bad to log in as root?13:14
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progicianoy. I have trouble with the audio through hdmi since I installed kubuntu. I tried many solution I foundon blogs/forums, but none seems to work.13:35
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progicianI have an issue with the HDMI audio. I managed to set up the TV as a display at the right of my monitor, however,  I can't get the sound working14:12
progicianI set the output device as GF104... but it doesn't help14:12
progicianit used to work just fine under linux mint, even on linux mint with kde, but on kubuntu it just simply doesn't work14:13
progicianI'm a bit lost, because when I check the aplay -L, there's four output device for the hdmi: CARD=NVIDIA, while there's only a single physical hdmi  output on the card, obviously14:17
progicianand also, there's a dmix device on the dev 314:18
progicianis there any known bug that stops kubuntu working with hdmi audio?14:23
progicianis there any chat on this channel at all? I mean I put my question out an hour ago, and not a single line was spoken ever since14:30
progicianmint channels are definitely more active14:31
rorkprogician: most software I use has output to the hdmi as well as the generic audio, there are few programs you have to specify though. Which program do you use to test it?14:36
progicianrork: which software in particular? is amarok capable of doing so?14:36
Obsidian1723progician: Sorry, if I knew the anwser, I'd help you. I do know Linux Mint puts in a lot of extras by default. I would imagine there should be some sort of benchmarking software you could use to test it out.14:37
Obsidian1723Have you checked dmesg and in /var/log ?14:37
progicianObsidian1723: I'll see, what I can find in there...14:38
Obsidian1723you can also check things like lscpi if it's a PCI card, or lsusb for USB devices, checking those things and logs is where I'd start first, so in this case, dmesg. I believe you'd want to start in /var/log/messages14:39
rorkprogician: yes, Amarok should work fine14:39
cloakableAre you using Pulseaudio or pure alsa?14:39
progicianrork: in the amarok configuration it leads me to the phonon config panel, and whatever I do there, there's no sound on the TV14:40
progiciancloakable: i use kubuntu as it was installed.14:40
cloakableprogician: Click on kmix and right-click on the Amarok entry. Then mouse over Move.14:41
progiciancloakable: but then, since I couldn't get it working, I installed the pavucontrol, and alsa-utils as well, for no avail14:41
cloakableMove it to the HDMI output.14:41
cloakableHmm.14:41
cloakableWhat output does the pulseaudio volume manager say Amarok is using?14:42
progiciancloakable: which one is the pulseaudio vol manager? pavucontrol?14:43
cloakableprogician: Yup14:44
progicianok guys, there might be a clue: kmix fail to start.14:45
Obsidian1723ok.14:45
Obsidian1723try reconfiguring that14:45
progicianoh, it doesn't actually, it just starts on the tray, sorry14:45
progicianso how do I direct software audio output to different hardware output?14:46
progicianthe pavucontrol panel shows as if there was some audio on the hdmi, but no sound on the telly14:47
cloakableHm.14:47
cloakableAnd what programs are outputting to HDMI?14:48
progiciancloakable: amarok14:49
progicianand event sounds14:49
cloakableThat's odd.14:49
cloakableI don't have a HDMI TV here, so I can't help too much, alas.14:50
progiciancloakable: very odd, because it was working fine under mint... I love kubuntu in all aspects, but this is how I play movies at home, so I would like to sort out before the night comes :)14:51
cloakableBut I don't see a reason why HDMI output would be failing on your system. You say pavucontrol shows volume activity on the HDMI output... have you checked the other end?14:52
progicianmany times, different ways14:52
progicianbut when I log in to windows, it works like charm14:52
progicianit's definitely on the kubuntu side where it fails somewhere14:53
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progiciancloakable: when I click on the pulsaudio control/configuration tab, the GF104 High Definition Audio has 4+4 options with the 5.115:00
progicianwhen I change it, i get warnings, that it doesn't work15:01
cloakableHrm.15:01
cloakableThe KDE one or the pavucontrol one?15:02
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progicianwhen I set to the first one ("The first Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output") i get a different message, warning me that it has higher preference  or specifically configure for this stream. To me it tells that the audio driver is convinced that it is playing on the right stream without problem. I wonder if it is muted somewhere, but couldn't find anytiing15:03
progicianpavucontrol15:03
progicianthe phonon seems less helpful in this15:04
cloakableYeah, some15:04
progiciani changed the nvidia driver, no change15:06
cloakableI'm not sure I can really help you, here.15:07
progiciani wonder if the intergrated ati video card causing this...15:08
progicianbut that's ATI SB, not the GF10415:08
cloakable*nod*15:09
progicianannoying, as all my media is on the ext4 home partition.....15:09
progicianso I can't play them easily on window without copying all the music there.....15:10
progicianwindowws, i mean15:10
cloakableI'm using a GF119, with the latest beta drivers, so I'm not sure I could really help you with your problem even if I had HDMI speakers.15:10
cloakableI'm using the built-in analogue here.15:10
oidDo any normal people use Linux or is it just for hardcore computer geeks?15:11
progicianyeah, that works fine... first i installed the experimental drivers, and now i switched back to the normals ones15:11
progicianoid: more and more non-geeks I recon15:11
alainuscan programs be opened from the console just like with krunner ? (without outputting anything to the console)15:12
progicianoid: because people are less attached to specific softwares, and the web works the same way as on commercial platforms15:12
progicianalainus: they can be15:13
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progicianalainus: just type kate, and it will open. but they will show the tty output15:15
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Sennar_clear17:08
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murthyhello everyone17:22
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awayanyone know of a good place to find more lightdm-kde themes?19:32
Mamarokaway: so far I know only one, maby have a look at kde-look.org or kde-apps.org?19:32
awayMamarok -- thanks19:36
Sennarhi to all!!! someone now how i can see all list directory near the hostname??? i don't wont see any "Music" but /home/pippo/Misic in terminal??19:58
IdleOneSennar: Can you rephrase your question. I am unclear what it is you are asking?20:04
MamarokSennar: you want to see the complete path in the prompt in a Konsole I guess?20:05
IdleOneSennar: What langauge do you speak?20:06
IdleOnelanguage*20:06
IdleOneSennar: in here please not in PM20:07
MamarokItalian I guess20:07
IdleOneSennar: we have channels in other languages that can help you better.20:08
IdleOneSennar: por l'amor de dios abla aqui20:08
Sennarsorry! italin :D where i find italian channel? 0.o20:09
IdleOneah20:09
IdleOne!it20:09
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:09
IdleOneMamarok: has a good geoip script apparently20:09
Sennar /join #ubuntu-it20:09
lordievaderGood evening20:12
TEST__hi20:28
amigamiatest20:31
TEST__yes?20:33
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maximociao22:54
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smoke_does anyone know how to install directx in wine?23:31

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