[14:59] <smartboyhw> Kubuntu Council meeting time?
[15:00] <jussi> o/
[15:00] <JontheEchidna> \o
[15:00] <valorie> o/
[15:00]  * smartboyhw waits for third person
[15:00] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:00]  * valorie is .5
[15:01] <smartboyhw> valorie, LOL
[15:01] <valorie> however, where is your wiki page?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> valorie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/smartboyhw
[15:01] <smartboyhw> Hmm weird there is three voting for this time
[15:02] <smartboyhw> apachelogger should be one
[15:02] <smartboyhw> And Darkwing too
[15:03] <smartboyhw> WHERE ARE THEY? (LOL)
[15:04] <Darkwing> pong
[15:04] <smartboyhw> YEAH
[15:04] <JontheEchidna> Hey, there's the third
[15:04] <smartboyhw> Quorum reached:)
[15:04] <Darkwing> Sorry, was a bit late to the party
[15:04] <smartboyhw> No worries:)
[15:05] <valorie> wow, you have been really active, smartboyhw
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: that daylight savings hit ya?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> valorie, yes of course:) (If not I wouldn't come:p)
[15:05] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: Yeah
[15:05] <valorie> are you still active in all those Ubuntu teams?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> valorie, yes of course:)
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: We've just sucked one hour of your life away. Tell me, how does that make you feel?
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Sorry Darkwing :P
[15:06] <valorie> I'm going back to bed after we're done
[15:06] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: seeing that I went to bed 4 hours ago.. :P:P
[15:06] <valorie> the sun is hardly up!
[15:06] <smartboyhw> valorie, oops sorry (again)
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> Anyway, we should start.
[15:06] <valorie> np
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings
[15:06] <smartboyhw> OK
[15:06] <valorie> we're spread across the world
[15:06] <smartboyhw> Not really much motion items do we?
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> Today we are discussing membership for smartboyhw
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Don't forget to use the start meeting syntax JonathanD
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Oops
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Tab error
[15:07] <smartboyhw> JontheEchidna, ^
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> ~startmeeting
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> !startmeeting
[15:07] <smartboyhw> JontheEchidna, use #
[15:07] <smartboyhw> !?
[15:07] <Darkwing> #startmeeting
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> oops
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[15:07] <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: thanks
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Got it now:)
[15:07] <xnox> smartboyhw: have you been involved in UbuntuKylin? The new chinese ubuntu flavour?
[15:07] <Darkwing> #meetingtopic membership of smartboyhw
[15:08] <smartboyhw> xnox, sort of:)
[15:08] <Darkwing> #meetingtopic kubuntu membership of smartboyhw
[15:09] <jussi> smartboyhw: give us an introduction to who you are, and your activity in Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[15:09] <smartboyhw> jussi, OK
[15:09] <jussi> Darkwing: #topic
[15:09] <smartboyhw> I'm Howard Chan, 14-year-old active contributor to Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[15:09] <Darkwing> #topic kubuntu membership of smartboyhw
[15:09] <smartboyhw> I joined Kubuntu to start work on some development
[15:09] <Darkwing> #meetingtopic kubuntu meeting
[15:09] <smartboyhw> And so I am now starting to help packaging:)
[15:10] <smartboyhw> Some applications I have packaged include
[15:10] <smartboyhw> Calligra, Rekonq, libktorrent (+ request KTorrent sync) Homerun, kde-gtk-config and request for skrooge sync
[15:11] <smartboyhw> I've also helped testing for Kubuntu in Alpha 1 + 12.04.2
[15:11] <smartboyhw> And as for the general Ubuntu contributions....
[15:11] <smartboyhw> I'm an active member of the Ubuntu Community QA Team
[15:11] <valorie> they are impressive!
[15:11] <smartboyhw> I help to write testcases, and test ISO images
[15:12]  * smartboyhw ranked third in testing 12.04.2 images BTW (really weird)
[15:12] <smartboyhw> And also I am an contributor to Ubuntu Studio
[15:12] <smartboyhw> QA also, and release matters
[15:12] <smartboyhw> ..
[15:13]  * smartboyhw is a Kubuntu Ninja BTQ
[15:13] <smartboyhw> s/BTQ/BTW/ :P
[15:13] <valorie> you are already an Ubuntu Member; why are you now applying for Kubuntu membership as well?
[15:13] <Darkwing> dang it valorie that was my question :P:P
[15:13] <smartboyhw> valorie, this is the most important question
[15:13] <valorie> hehe
[15:13] <smartboyhw> apachelogger once said that joining in ~kubuntu-packagers and have commit access to these branches should either be ~ubuntu-core-dev or ~kubuntu-members
[15:14] <jussi> smartboyhw: how long have you been contributing to Kubuntu?
[15:14] <smartboyhw> I do feel that I have the trust from community + enough learning of packaging to have commit access
[15:14] <smartboyhw> jussi, 1 month or so (maybe more)
[15:14] <smartboyhw> IDK
[15:14]  * smartboyhw has forgotten
[15:15] <valorie> do you intend to get involved with the upstream KDE community?
[15:15] <smartboyhw> valorie, yes. Possibly with Calligra or Rekonq
[15:15] <smartboyhw> I don't want to just help them with packaging
[15:16] <smartboyhw> But also actual bug-fixing
[15:16] <JontheEchidna> That's great
[15:16] <smartboyhw> (upstream)
[15:16] <valorie> a month or so seems very short to me, however you have a good record with Ubuntu already
[15:16] <smartboyhw> Riddell already gave me a +1
[15:16] <smartboyhw> :P
[15:16] <Darkwing> Where do you see yourself within Kubuntu in a year?
[15:16] <valorie> both those teams could use your enthusiasm for sure
[15:16] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, if I can I would want to be ~kubuntu-dev
[15:17] <valorie> are you planning to attend Akademy?
[15:17] <valorie> registration has just opened
[15:17] <smartboyhw> valorie, no (I've got school don't forget, and when it's Akademy time I'll be London for study tour)
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Really sorry
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Possibly I will want to meet Riddell or phillw in person:P (LOL)
[15:18] <valorie> bummer
[15:18] <Darkwing> smartboyhw: do you run Kubuntu at the moment?
[15:18] <valorie> cool on the trip, bummer on missing us
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, no actually (since strangely my login screen breaks my graphics)
[15:18] <smartboyhw> And I still got Ubuntu Studio to support:P
[15:18] <smartboyhw> I want to get that fixed too
[15:18] <smartboyhw> (but that will require some in-depth look into kernel modules + AMD drivers)
[15:19] <Darkwing> smartboyhw: Yeah, it does on mine as well, that's why I'm running the LTS.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, I don't run LTSes
[15:19] <smartboyhw> I need to be in the development release at all times
[15:19] <smartboyhw> for QA + packaging trial-installs-plus-runs
[15:20] <Darkwing> So, beyond kubuntu-dev, what is the reason you are looking for kubuntu-membership?
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, I am really hoping to contribute to Kubuntu long-time
[15:20] <Darkwing> Do you feel that you need to be a kubuntu member for that?
[15:20] <smartboyhw> As you can see from my Planet Ubuntu posts, I am starting to get disappointed in Canonical's policies
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, not exactly. However I want to wear my ~kubuntu-members *badge or whatever* with pride
[15:21] <smartboyhw> That I am indeed contributing to KDE and Kubuntu
[15:21] <valorie> you might want to add your blog to the KDE planet as well
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Nicely:)
[15:21] <smartboyhw> valorie, which I did
[15:21] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:21] <valorie> cool
[15:22] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna, jussi, any other questions?
[15:22] <jussi> hrm
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Do ask:)
[15:22]  * smartboyhw is not worried about questions at all
[15:22] <jussi> Im good
[15:22] <JontheEchidna> Same, you two asked all of mine :P
[15:23] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:23]  * valorie shakes the pom poms
[15:23] <JontheEchidna> smartboyhw: so you were hoping for shadeslayer and yofel to give you testimonials, correct?
[15:23] <JontheEchidna> *give testimonials for you
[15:24] <smartboyhw> JontheEchidna, yep since they are supposed to be here (according to doodle poll)
[15:24] <smartboyhw> They did give them in my main Ubuntu membership application
[15:24] <JontheEchidna> ah, good
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Do you want links for that?
[15:24] <Darkwing> please
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, JontheEchidna jussi http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html (for main membership application)
[15:26] <smartboyhw> and for Riddell's +1 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/10/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t09:56
[15:26] <yofel> he has indeed been a great help on the testing and packaging side and has been very active on the kubuntu side lately. So I'm all for this membership.
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Actually that's apachelogger:P
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Thanks yofel !
[15:27] <valorie> if I had a vote, you would have it
[15:27] <smartboyhw> valorie, thanks:)
[15:27] <Darkwing> Okay, if there are no more questions... there will be a vote.
[15:27] <Darkwing> #vote
[15:27] <meetingology> Please vote on:
[15:27] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[15:27] <JontheEchidna> +1
[15:28] <Darkwing> #voters JontheEchidna Darkwing jussi
[15:28] <meetingology> Current voters: Darkwing JontheEchidna jussi
[15:28] <Darkwing> sorry lol
[15:28] <JontheEchidna> +1
[15:28] <Darkwing> +1
[15:28] <jussi> smartboyhw: I have concerns about the length of time you have contributed to kubuntu directly - I admire the enthusiasm, but I want to see "sustained" contributions to *kubuntu*, so for me this time, it is a +0
[15:28] <jussi> +0
[15:28] <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: don't be sorry, I couldn't even start the stupid bot :P
[15:28]  * smartboyhw wonders if ubottu is still working
[15:28] <Darkwing> #endvote
[15:28] <meetingology> No vote in progress
[15:28] <jussi> Darkwing: #endvote please
[15:29] <jussi> haha
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Stupid bot
[15:29] <Darkwing> #vote smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
[15:29] <meetingology> Please vote on: smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
[15:29] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[15:29] <Darkwing> +1
[15:29] <meetingology> +1 received from Darkwing
[15:29] <jussi> +0
[15:29] <meetingology> +0 received from jussi
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> +1
[15:29] <meetingology> +1 received from JontheEchidna
[15:29] <smartboyhw> endvote?
[15:29] <Darkwing> #endvote
[15:29] <meetingology> Voting ended on: smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
[15:29] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[15:29] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:29] <smartboyhw> XD
[15:29] <smartboyhw> YEAH!
[15:29] <Darkwing> Welcome to Kubuntu membership smartboyhw
[15:29] <jussi> you need to wait for riddell or apachelogger
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, thx
[15:30] <smartboyhw> jussi, for what?
[15:30] <jussi> as I understand it you need a majority
[15:30] <JontheEchidna> Riddell gave his +1 earlier in #kubuntu-devel
[15:30] <jussi> which in our council is 3
[15:30] <jussi> oh
[15:30] <jussi> ok
[15:30] <jussi> congratulations then :=)
[15:30] <valorie> congratulations, smartboyhw
[15:30] <smartboyhw> jussi, Darkwing JontheEchidna yofel valorie THX
[15:30] <Darkwing> Sorry, I didn't mention that. :)
[15:30] <jussi> yeah, i was unaware
[15:30] <valorie> I love my Kubuntu Membership
[15:30] <Darkwing> #topic other business
[15:31] <valorie> :-)
[15:31] <Darkwing> Is there any other business that needs to be discussed?
[15:31] <valorie> is the mumble meeting still happening?
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> well, we do need a meeting to discuss the recent ... happenings in canonical land, but I think we'd want a more full attendence roster
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Yep
[15:32]  * yofel has to run, bye
[15:32] <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: I agree, we need to setup soemthing that all the council will be able to attend for that.
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> did the mumble meeting get a set date/time?
[15:32] <Darkwing> thanks to yofel we do have a mumble server running.
[15:32] <valorie> happenings are still happening, so there isn't a whole lot to discuss yet, I think
[15:32] <smartboyhw> I don't even know how to play with mumble:P
[15:32] <Darkwing> and no, I have not seen that email.
[15:33] <smartboyhw> Can someone give me yofel's server ip?
[15:33] <Darkwing> Actually, I have to set it up.
[15:33] <valorie> mumble is installed on my machine, but I haven't had time to test it yet
[15:33] <yofel> yofel-vz.dyndns.org
[15:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, thx
[15:33] <valorie> thanks, yofel
[15:33] <Darkwing> port: 64738
[15:34] <Darkwing> I'll be sending out polls for a mumble meeting.
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> great
[15:34] <Darkwing> Is there anything else?
[15:34] <Darkwing> Going once?
[15:34] <Darkwing> Going Twice?
[15:35] <JontheEchidna> none here
[15:35] <Darkwing> Thank you all for coming out.
[15:35] <Darkwing> #endmeeting
[15:35] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Mar 10 15:35:17 2013 UTC.
[15:35] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-10-15.07.moin.txt
[15:35] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-03-10-15.07.html
[15:35] <valorie> thanks for chairing, Darkwing
[15:35] <Darkwing> Anytime.
[15:35] <JontheEchidna> :)
[15:35] <valorie> nice to see you around again
[15:35] <Darkwing> Oh yeah... I have to send my reelection email out.
[15:35]  * JontheEchidna wanders off to make morning coffee
[15:35] <Darkwing> It's good to be stable enough to be back.
[15:35] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to everybody
[15:36]  * smartboyhw hugs everybody
[15:36] <smartboyhw> Darkwing, LOL:P