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| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 08:03 |
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| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 08:04 |
| Squirm | morning | 09:02 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 09:11 |
| Kilos | lo superfly | 09:12 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 09:25 |
| Kilos | hi kodez gaan dit goed? | 10:25 |
| kodez | i'm better than yesterday, thanks for asking uncle kilos | 10:25 |
| kodez | and how are you? | 10:25 |
| Kilos | im good ty | 10:29 |
| Kilos | apart from older than yesterday | 10:30 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:30 |
| kodez | yeah, older and wiser than yesterday | 10:31 |
| Kilos | lol why you been so scarce | 10:31 |
| kodez | i was not stable in one place for quite sometime and sometimes i am doing my school's work | 10:33 |
| Kilos | ah ok we forgive you | 10:33 |
| kodez | a big thank you | 10:34 |
| kodez | :) | 10:34 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:34 |
| kodez | have you attended the ubuntu hour in centurion? | 10:35 |
| Kilos | nope i am not mobile | 10:35 |
| Kilos | just boer here | 10:35 |
| kodez | k, what are you farming? i'm interested in pig farming. | 10:36 |
| kodez | i'm still trying to gather information | 10:36 |
| Kilos | there is money in pig farming but more in broiler chickens | 10:37 |
| Kilos | pig farming needs special kinda cages to stop the sows getting to the piglets or they eat half of them | 10:37 |
| Kilos | so basically the sow can stand or lie down but always facing her feed and water troughs | 10:38 |
| Kilos | then piglets drink safely | 10:38 |
| Kilos | thats if you wanna farm seriously with them | 10:39 |
| kodez | lol, i am looking for someone to train me in both projects. i have a neighbour who worked in a chicken farming project | 10:39 |
| Kilos | chickens is not too much work | 10:39 |
| Kilos | you used to be able to contact rainbow and they would build the tunnel kinda buildings on your farm free and supply chicks and afeed and all and you get a percentage i think it was | 10:40 |
| kodez | please send me you email, we can take this conversion privately as other will complain as it is not ubuntu os related | 10:41 |
| Kilos | they did that to spread their base and let someone else run the risks and do the work | 10:41 |
| kodez | i will make a follow up with them but my priority is in pig farming at the moment | 10:41 |
| charl_ | good afternoon | 11:00 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 11:00 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 11:00 | |
| kodez | afternoon charl | 11:00 |
| charl_ | hi kodez | 11:00 |
| kodez | how are you? | 11:00 |
| charl_ | i'm good thanks, yourself? | 11:01 |
| kodez | i'm better than yesterday, thanks for asking | 11:02 |
| kodez | what's interesting in your ubuntu world today? | 11:03 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 11:04 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thanks | 11:05 |
| Maaz | charl_: Sure | 11:05 |
| charl_ | am getting a strange error on ubuntu azure: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release Unable to find expected entry 'precise-backports/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) | 11:07 |
| charl_ | will have to report it | 11:08 |
| kodez | i don't remember how to fix repos. i will do a research and report back | 11:09 |
| charl_ | don't worry, this is something for them to fix, not us, i'm just testing :) | 11:11 |
| kodez | kwl:) | 11:11 |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 11:13 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 11:14 |
| charl_ | how's it going today | 11:14 |
| Kilos | ok ty charl_ and you? | 11:14 |
| Kilos | apart from your probs that is | 11:14 |
| charl_ | neh good, very good | 11:16 |
| charl_ | believe it or not, we actually had some snow during the early morning | 11:16 |
| charl_ | crazy for march | 11:17 |
| charl_ | this winter was a good one :) | 11:17 |
| Kilos | ouch that cold wet white stuff | 11:17 |
| Kilos | good winters are found in natal | 11:17 |
| charl_ | natal according to me is a hot province though, i didn't know they could have a winter at all :) | 11:18 |
| charl_ | in the middle of winter you could probably walk outside in shorts and a t-shirt :P | 11:18 |
| Kilos | haha 10ooc is winter in durbs | 11:18 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:18 |
| Kilos | 10 degrees | 11:20 |
| charl_ | haha, you never need more than a pullover | 11:21 |
| Kilos | 10°c | 11:21 |
| Kilos | there we go | 11:21 |
| Kilos | no you acclimatise and then get cold same as peeps in other areas | 11:22 |
| Kilos | ask nuvolari | 11:22 |
| charl_ | hahahahaha | 11:23 |
| charl_ | in botswana the nights got cold in the winter | 11:23 |
| charl_ | the days were fine though | 11:23 |
| charl_ | but the nights... it's a freezing cold | 11:24 |
| Kilos | yip same as the tvl | 11:24 |
| kodez | there are only two seasons in Durban, that's summer and summer | 11:24 |
| Kilos | sometimes a few degrees under freezing here | 11:24 |
| charl_ | botswana has a typical desert climate, complete extremes | 11:24 |
| charl_ | and in the summer it can get 40+ in the day no problem | 11:25 |
| charl_ | no thank you, give me the milder climates | 11:25 |
| Kilos | haha when hot like that you save electricity you fry eggs on a shovel in the sun | 11:26 |
| charl_ | whahahah ! | 11:27 |
| kodez | one thing that is interesting about this weather, we have less solar power generation than coal power plants. solar power is extreme cheaper than coal. | 11:28 |
| charl_ | according to what i've heard, solar power can be rather expensive | 11:29 |
| charl_ | but it is of course a lot better for the environment | 11:29 |
| charl_ | it is totally renewable and doesn't pollute the atmosphere | 11:29 |
| Kilos | getting the equipment is expensive | 11:29 |
| charl_ | yeah but after that the maintenance is minimal and you get power virtually for free | 11:30 |
| charl_ | a good solar setup will last you for years and years with minimal maintenance | 11:30 |
| kodez | installation is expensive but running it and maintenance is close to zero | 11:30 |
| Kilos | but then if im not mistaken all lights etc need to run off batteries | 11:30 |
| charl_ | only during the night when there is no sun | 11:31 |
| Kilos | and stoves geysers etc off batteries with inverters | 11:31 |
| charl_ | the batteries also need to be replaced every couple of years | 11:31 |
| charl_ | afaik the dc is converted back to ac before it gets distributed around the house | 11:31 |
| kodez | i was at CSIR this past friday and in one of their magazine, i learned that there are LED globes and uses less electricity than other globes | 11:32 |
| charl_ | yes you can buy them at ikea :) | 11:32 |
| Kilos | would be more efficient to run what can off battery voltage then as im sure inverters use quite a bit of power to convert up | 11:33 |
| charl_ | i would be surprised if they are not being sold in south africa | 11:33 |
| charl_ | i used to think the same when it comes to ups'es | 11:33 |
| kodez | where is it? or is it an online shop? | 11:33 |
| Kilos | ya leds are more efficient | 11:33 |
| charl_ | but apparently the converters now are so efficient it doesn't matter anymore | 11:33 |
| charl_ | kodez: ikea is a big store where you can buy all kinds of goods but they also have a good website, never tried ordering anything online from them though | 11:34 |
| charl_ | ikea.nl is their dutch site | 11:35 |
| charl_ | it's a swedish company | 11:35 |
| charl_ | http://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/search/?query=Ledverlichting | 11:37 |
| kodez | thanks | 11:37 |
| charl_ | there is one big problem with leds, they contain some hazardous elements | 11:37 |
| charl_ | they need to be disposed of properly | 11:37 |
| charl_ | same goes for the regular energy saving lights, they often contain mercury gas | 11:38 |
| charl_ | (if i remember correctly off-hand) | 11:38 |
| kodez | i will continue with my research of alternative energy saving devices | 11:38 |
| charl_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_fluorescent_lamp#Environmental_impact | 11:40 |
| charl_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_lamp | 11:41 |
| charl_ | http://inhabitat.com/study-finds-led-light-bulbs-contain-unsafe-levels-of-carcinogenic-toxins/ | 11:43 |
| Kilos | surely thats only if you bust them open | 11:43 |
| charl_ | yeah that's what i am also thinking | 11:43 |
| charl_ | i don't know if they need to be disposed of safely thouigh | 11:44 |
| charl_ | *though | 11:44 |
| Kilos | they are even using led tail lights on trucks here | 11:44 |
| charl_ | yeah they are becoming very popular | 11:44 |
| charl_ | but they still look a lot less dangerous than CFLs | 11:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:45 |
| charl_ | afaik they are not the cheapest but some of the best all-round light sources available | 11:45 |
| charl_ | i might uprade to them myself in the future | 11:45 |
| kodez | i am interest to upgrade the whole system to solar system but without removing the current municipal grid | 11:47 |
| charl_ | i can remember seeing them at the ikea last year but i looked at the prices and they were a _lot_ more expensive than the "sparsam" lamps | 11:47 |
| charl_ | regular CFLs | 11:47 |
| charl_ | the prices seemed to have come down a lot though | 11:48 |
| charl_ | http://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/search/?query=sparsam | 11:48 |
| kodez | i heard they last longer than the other globes | 11:48 |
| charl_ | a heck of a lot longer kodez :) | 11:48 |
| charl_ | leds are virtually indestructible | 11:48 |
| nuvi | oh dear | 11:50 |
| nuvi | I didn't use quassel in quite a while | 11:51 |
| Kilos | hi nuvi | 11:51 |
| nuvi | hi oom Kilos :) Gaan dit goed oom? | 11:52 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en self | 11:52 |
| nuvi | dit gaan goed dankie oom! | 11:52 |
| nuvi | argh! stupid stupid! :-/ I didn't check my uptime | 11:52 |
| nuvi | it was around 2 years :P | 11:53 |
| Kilos | its not that bad nuvi | 12:01 |
| nuvi | nu-uh, but I had to restart to get all the extra free stuff from linode | 12:03 |
| nuvi | 'free' | 12:03 |
| nuvi | should I rather say upgrades | 12:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:03 |
| nuvi | ha, the best description I can think of is 'generous additions' | 12:05 |
| nuvolari_ | \o/ | 12:14 |
| nuvolari_ | hi :) | 12:14 |
| charl_ | what is it with the uptime wh***s, i don't understand it :) | 12:17 |
| charl_ | all that it means is that you are a bad sysadmin because you don't restart your servers after kenel upgrades | 12:18 |
| charl_ | or even worse, you don't even do your upgrades in the first place | 12:18 |
| charl_ | i work in ict, executing planned server restarts is part of our job | 12:19 |
| nuvi | uhm, it wasn't a kernel upgrade. It was a linode resource upgrade which I didn't do at the time of their last birthday because it required a reboot in order to claim the resources. And I'm not a sysadmin, so don't expect me to do everything by the book. Also upgraded ubuntu now to 12.04 from 10.04 :P | 12:28 |
| charl_ | i'm not either, i work as a programmer :P | 12:29 |
| nuvi | ok, so you're a better hybrid then :P | 12:30 |
| charl_ | but i have my own desktops/laptops/servers and i promise you they get upgraded and rebooted rigurously :P | 12:30 |
| charl_ | but sorry i wasn't referring to you in particular earlier though | 12:31 |
| charl_ | it was meant as a general statement :) | 12:31 |
| nuvi | oh come on! why start nano with nano? ugh, once you get to know vim, anything else feels wrong | 12:31 |
| nuvi | ah ok | 12:31 |
| nuvi | thought you tried to bathe me in mud | 12:32 |
| nuvi | I'm not into mud wrestling | 12:32 |
| charl_ | lol no | 12:33 |
| nuvi | why is nuvolari still around :? | 12:34 |
| charl_ | years ago i was having an argument with somebody at mosgas, he was bragging about one of their linux firewall/gateway servers having an uptime of 5 or so years | 12:36 |
| charl_ | they actually lost the physical server, they had a power failure and they had to start it back up again but they couldn't find it | 12:36 |
| charl_ | eventually they found it in someone's closet | 12:36 |
| charl_ | the server came out of the closet following that, quite literally | 12:36 |
| charl_ | anycase, i accused them of being terrible at managing their servers, for obvious reasons | 12:37 |
| charl_ | i think it is called "p*ssing on batteries" in south africa :) | 12:37 |
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| Kilos | ja ja julle | 14:59 |
| charl_ | wb Kilos | 15:04 |
| Kilos | ty i been doing serious work | 15:04 |
| charl_ | ? | 15:04 |
| Kilos | using serious fsck command | 15:04 |
| charl_ | :D | 15:04 |
| charl_ | i always have to laugh at the name of that command | 15:05 |
| charl_ | also because it is often use as a curse in a nerdy way | 15:05 |
| Kilos | sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdxx | 15:05 |
| Kilos | sposed to repair or mark bad blocks | 15:06 |
| Kilos | but all them options dont show here in man so had to look online what they do | 15:06 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck.ext4 -cDfty -C 0 /dev/sdxx | 15:06 |
| Kilos | really serious | 15:07 |
| Kilos | nnow i wanna try them on a 2 TB drive but everytime i play with it here it crashes my os | 15:08 |
| charl_ | wow ok, no kidding | 15:08 |
| Kilos | ya serious manufacturer error on it | 15:09 |
| charl_ | can't you return it? | 15:10 |
| charl_ | it should still be under warrantee if it's new? | 15:10 |
| Kilos | it couldnt take anything else after first os was installed. just wrote bad blocks all the time | 15:10 |
| Kilos | no its a few years old | 15:10 |
| charl_ | ah i see | 15:10 |
| charl_ | a 2tb drive from a few years ago - those weren't mainstream yet | 15:10 |
| charl_ | it's very possible that there is a flaw in it | 15:10 |
| Kilos | but samsung wrote a patch for the firmware but id crashed it before i found out what was the prob | 15:10 |
| Kilos | it accepted the patch but whole mbr/boot is written as bad blocks | 15:11 |
| Kilos | so i/o error all the time | 15:11 |
| charl_ | is it a permanent problem on the physical platter? | 15:12 |
| Kilos | now im hoping fsck can fix it with them heavy options | 15:12 |
| charl_ | or just in the way the data was written | 15:12 |
| charl_ | afaik fsck can only fix basic problems | 15:12 |
| Kilos | it took 7 and xp fine but everytime any other os was tried it crashed | 15:12 |
| charl_ | there are more advanced tools like spinrite that could try to fix it but it's not open source | 15:13 |
| charl_ | it's a hit-and-miss in any case | 15:13 |
| Kilos | no i read somewhere online that those options make it repair/mark bad blocks | 15:13 |
| charl_ | yeah but if the problem exists in the mbr that's different i think | 15:14 |
| Kilos | i have the manufacturers cd as well but they all say i/o error | 15:14 |
| Kilos | i been at it for over a month already on and off | 15:14 |
| Kilos | in the off periods i build up courage to try again | 15:15 |
| charl_ | if you applied all firmware updates and rewriting the mbr doesn't help i don't think there is much that will | 15:15 |
| Kilos | would really love to have a 2 TB drive working lekker here | 15:15 |
| charl_ | a fsck won't fix problems in the mbr afaik | 15:15 |
| Kilos | maybe ill try get platters for it and try that too | 15:16 |
| charl_ | why not just use it as a data drive? | 15:16 |
| charl_ | instead of booting an o/s from it | 15:16 |
| Kilos | cant write anything to it | 15:16 |
| Kilos | cant partition even | 15:16 |
| charl_ | hmmm, sounds like a bigger problem to me | 15:16 |
| charl_ | good luck with it :) | 15:16 |
| Kilos | lol ty. it was working lekker till i tried 3 times to install ubuntu on it | 15:17 |
| Kilos | there is lotsa stuff online about the bug in the firmware but i found the patch too late | 15:17 |
| Kilos | anyway keeps me busy | 15:18 |
| charl_ | if you have the time, the worst that can happen is you learn something :) | 15:18 |
| Kilos | rofl | 15:18 |
| Kilos | time is all i have | 15:19 |
| charl_ | ) | 15:19 |
| charl_ | :) | 15:19 |
| charl_ | ok i'm off | 15:22 |
| charl_ | have a good evening all | 15:22 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 16:46 |
| Kilos | wbb gotta try fix quassel | 16:48 |
| Kilos- | something funny here. open either quassel of konversation and only see freenode not #ubuntu-za till i go quick connect then it starts up again then i see the channels | 16:55 |
| Kilos- | it actually connects because when i go quick connect i come back withy a tail | 17:01 |
| Kilos- | where do i delete the config files so i can start over | 17:04 |
| Kilos- | hi sakhi | 17:21 |
| sakhi | Hi Kilos- how are you doing? | 17:22 |
| Kilos- | good ty and you sakhi? | 17:22 |
| sakhi | Good thanks. | 17:23 |
| sakhi | Good evening #ubuntu-za | 17:30 |
| Symmetria | YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 18:03 |
| Symmetria | liverpool beat spurs | 18:03 |
| * Symmetria does the happy dance | 18:03 | |
| Squirm | Symmetria: Banshee's title sequence is too long :/ | 18:45 |
| Kilos- | night all . sleep tight | 18:48 |
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| Squirm | lo Trixar_za | 18:53 |
| Trixar_za | lo Squirm | 18:53 |
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