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vynxsterMy PCIE soundcard isn't working00:00
OerHeks!sound00:01
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.00:01
vynxsterIt's not detected00:01
bkliveyou should be able to just dd if=ubuntu-12.xx.iso of=/dev/sdX00:01
vynxsterIt's a SoundBlaster Recon 3D00:02
vynxsterI'll give it a try00:02
GeorgyI get a black screen after the Install Menu :( ?00:03
GeorgyAnyone help :d ?00:03
OerHeksopen terminal:  alsamixer "  and fiddle around with F6 soundcard and settings, maximize alsamixer because it can hold many options00:03
bcbc2Georgy: be patient. I am sure bazhang hasn't forgotten about you00:03
Georgyhe has :(00:04
Georgyhe is offline00:04
bekksGeorgy: he isnt.00:04
GeorgyOw, no he isnt, well he doesnt answer :(00:04
GeorgyAnd its 1am here00:04
vynxsterIv'e tried that...nothin. My gues is I have to manually initalize it. I have no clue how to do it.00:05
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man_lubp/np00:08
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man_lub0b0000500:08
OerHeksvynxster, on a french forum i read confirm Kernel 3.5 allows the cards to see "Core3D" in 3.2 it is not visible. still with issues too > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=121051100:09
leptoneplease help http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/00:09
Luigi946yop00:09
vynxsterOk. I'll check it out00:10
bekksleptone: those are just assertion, and not that critical.00:10
vynxsterbrb00:10
bcbc2Georgy: that md5sum you gave matches the md5sum for cde56251d6cae5214227d887dee3bab7  ./pics/red-upperleft.png00:10
bcbc2Georgy: are you running it on the .ISO or have you mounted it first00:10
enriquebuenas tardes ...00:11
alexGlaneed help with bochs virtual box. fail to launch, i get error "bochsrc:190: unsupported CPU model option."00:11
Georgywhat do you mean ?00:12
Georgyi burned it on a dvd00:12
bcbc2Georgy: you need to get the md5sum hash for the .ISO. The one you gave matches a file within the ISO00:12
_genuser_folks, in ubuntu installing qemu using sudo apt-get install qmeu, doesn't which a qmeu executable.00:12
Georgyyes00:12
Georgyand here do i find00:13
Georgythe on for the Iso ?00:13
_genuser_is there a different qemu package?00:13
Georgyone00:13
FloodBot1Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:13
enriquealguien que hable spanish ??00:13
bekks!es | enrique00:13
ubottuenrique: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:13
leptonebekks, well it didn't work. just tried to boot on my pc and got "non-system disk"00:13
vynxsterI'm back00:14
bekksleptone: Is the pc able to boot from usb at all?00:14
bcbc2Georgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows00:14
leptonebekks, yeah np usually.00:14
vynxsterI did a lshw and came up with this:  *-multimedia00:15
vynxster       description: Audio device00:15
vynxster       product: Creative Labs00:15
vynxster       vendor: Creative Labs00:15
vynxster       physical id: 000:15
vynxster       bus info: pci@0000:02:00.000:15
FloodBot1vynxster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:15
bcbc2Georgy: didn't you burn the new ISO already? Did you try the new one?00:17
Georgyyes00:17
Georgyand the hashes re the same00:17
GeorgySo thats not the problem :(00:17
ferkswemneptok: It's working now! I installed some more swedish locale things. :D00:18
_cronus__genuser_, i think the command is kvm or qemu-i38600:18
vynxster#launchpad00:19
Georgybcbc2, what do i do now :(00:19
kondorvynxster: Error: "launchpad" is not a valid command.00:19
nyaxaЕсть тут русские? оО00:20
compdoc_genuser_, all I do:   sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager00:20
bekks!ru | nyaxa00:20
ubottunyaxa: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.00:20
enriquerussian ?00:20
bcbc2Georgy: You could try 12.04, install it in a VM... not sure what you need Ubuntu for or what your goal is00:21
enriqueURSS00:21
GeorgyProgramming00:21
nyaxaYes.00:21
enriquedont speak spanish ??00:22
bcbc2Georgy: you could start with vmware or virtualbox under windows. How old is your computer? What are the specs again?00:22
cobasHi. Any tips on why my web browsing is sooo slow in Xubuntu? Websites time out.00:22
nyaxaNo. :C00:23
Pici!es | enrique00:23
ubottuenrique: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:23
cobasI speak spanish00:23
enriqueРусский язык является языком интересное00:23
Georgy5 Year, 2.0 Ghz, 3Gb ram,00:23
nyaxa: D00:23
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GeorgyI tried the Vm already00:23
GeorgyNot good00:23
Georgy:(00:23
GeorgyMakes me lagg00:23
ferksweAnyone know if there's a command to put your computer into sleepmode00:24
lxleprobably have to setup a hotkey00:24
enriqueперевод очень плохо ... использовать переводчик Google00:24
smallfoot-ferkswe, shutdown --help00:24
bcbc2Georgy: what brand/model/graphics card00:24
nyaxaThis is bad...00:25
GeorgyAsus00:25
enriqueyeah ... i am mexican muahahaha00:25
GeorgyGeForce 9300m GS00:25
ferkswesmallfoot-: There's no sleep option?00:25
bcbc2Georgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2094182 looks like you have a backlight issue00:26
bkliveferkswe: pm-suspend00:26
ferksweTesting00:26
bcbc2Georgy: what model is it?00:27
GeorgyX71SL00:27
leptoneanyone know how to install the tor browser. i'm getting some erros i dnt know how to fix00:28
cobasI'd probably do that next, but I can't even get Firefox to work00:28
Georgyleptone, why do you need the tor browser for ?00:28
cobas...to browse the web anonymously?00:29
GeorgyWhy ? I'm mean why anonymously ?00:29
leptoneGeorgy, aaahhhh thats kinda my own business :)00:30
bkliveleptone: you can't private session in chromium?00:30
leptoneGeorgy, well, im trying to go to sites that r not accesabl via firefox/chrome/opera00:30
bcbc2Georgy: here's another http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11325721 There's a suggestion to use acpi=off as well as nomodeset00:30
cobasHello. I'm trying to cheat on my wife but I can't get my web browser to work. Can someone help me fix this issue?00:31
Georgyleptone, aw okay :D Well i cant help you sorry, have no clue of tor browser, bcbc2, allright let me see :)00:31
cobasI've tried Firefox and Chrome; they both sporadically load some pages fast, other times stop, lag, etc00:31
Georgybcbc2, that is exactly my problem :o00:32
ferkswe_Okay, suspension works, halfways. it goes to sleep, but doesn't return00:32
leptonehelp please http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600615/00:32
bcbc2Georgy: try posting on that thread or messaging the user to see if they figured out a way.00:34
GeorgyAllright, thanks00:34
bcbc2Georgy: np. good luck00:35
cobasOk, Chomium is now about to time out trying to load www.google.com This is pretty sad00:35
bekkscobas: Works fine here.00:36
cobasYes it works fine for me otherwise, just not with Xubuntu on this PC. :(00:37
GeorgyI sendend a pm00:38
Georgy:D00:38
ArmoredDragoonIs there any way I can force ubuntu to boot without having a monitor plugged in, while still allowing x to run so that I can use cgminer?00:38
GeorgyKinda sucks that its a problem on my pc :(00:38
bekksArmoredDragoon: Just unplug the monitor.00:38
ArmoredDragoonI was thinking about making a dummy monitor with some resistors and a db15 adapter, but it seems unnecessary00:38
_cronus_leptone, try sudo chown -R casey.casey /home/casey/.tor-browser00:38
ArmoredDragoonbekks: if there's no monitor plugged in, ubuntu will not boot00:39
bekksArmoredDragoon: Ubuntu doesnt00:39
ArmoredDragoonbekks: it's not a bios issue or anything like that...just for whatever reason, nothing comes up when there's no monitor plugged in, I can't ssh into it or anything00:39
ArmoredDragoonwhereas if there is a monitor plugged in, I have full access to it remotely00:39
bekksArmoredDragoon: Then there is something else wrong.00:40
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ArmoredDragoonlike what? if the monitor is plugged in, it works, not plugged in, it doesn't come up00:40
_cronus_ArmoredDragoon, i saw a similar problem with an intel card. i had to disable drm to make it work00:40
ArmoredDragoonthis is with an amd card00:40
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cobasWhy does IRC work reliably, but websites stop loading half way through?00:42
vynxsterIt appears I need a binary X-Fi driver. Any advice?00:43
afflicto-laptophello everyone. I'm on 12.10, is there a way to add a custom shortcut to switch workspaces?00:44
bkliveafflicto-laptop: yes, use compiz config from software centre and add a shortcut key to Expo00:45
afflicto-laptopbklive: ah cool thanks00:46
afflicto-laptopbklive: oh.. I forgot to mention i'm using gnome 3 though00:47
leptone_cronus_,  thx your the man/woman/titan!!00:48
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ring0afflicto-laptop, how about this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/21/workspace-indicator/00:53
MrHacksURGENT HELP REQUEST!00:55
MrHacksFor some reason Ubuntu FORGETS my screen settings completely00:55
MrHacksI have a brand new Samsung 22" HDTV with HDMI ports on the back.  The resolution should be 1920x1080 at a rate of 60 Hz. But for some reason during the day this resolution is reduced to 800x600 and there is no way to get xrandr to fix it00:57
tomasm-hi, why is it that I can't view this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111728 , even with being logged in?00:57
tomasm-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283 rather00:57
bcbc2tomasm-: probably been jailed by mods00:59
tomasm-I have ubuntu 10.04 and am trying to run ffmpeg with mp3 support, but libmp3lame isnt installed, and it doesnt seem to be in any repo that's enabled. but I see restricted listed in /etc/apt/sources.list . any ideas?00:59
tomasm-bcbc2, ME? or the post? I haven't posted anything00:59
tomasm-ever00:59
bcbc2tomasm-: the thread00:59
tomasm-anyone know what repo libmp3lame is in, and how I can add that repo to my system? all I have is command line access (this is 10.04, a server)01:00
* MrHacks questions why I ever come here for help. What am I chopped liver?!01:01
MrHacksPI EQUALS FOUR!01:02
MrHacksDid someone enable voice?01:02
MrHacksHELLO!01:03
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bcbc2tomasm-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13737/what-packages-do-i-install-for-ffmpeg-and-libmp3lame01:05
bcbc2tomasm-: looks like multiverse01:06
_cronus_tomasm-, i think libmp3lame0 was in multiverse repository in 10.0401:07
tomasm-ok so libmp3lame0 is installed, but ffmpeg still doesnt recognize it (even after uninstalling and re-installing ffmpeg)01:08
DJJeff"sni-qt/4636" WARN 15:49:32.787 void StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to SNW_SERVICE01:09
DJJeffI seriously think ubuntu is BREAKING more then its fixing shit01:09
DJJeffsudo apt-get -y remove --purge qt-at-spi01:10
DJJeffis suppose to fix this but does not01:10
DJJeffwe should want the safety and security of 12.04+ but have the stability of 10.10 *sigh*01:11
sebsebseb 01:12
DJJeffwhat happened Ubuntu.... you once were "COOL"01:12
t0ntinHi, all! Update manager is giving me an error when trying to download updates. How can I install the important security updates only?01:14
alinehello!01:14
sebsebsebaline: hi01:14
tomasm-ok, i got multiverse installed and libmp3lame0, but ffmpeg still doesnt recognize it. almost like it's not bothering to try.... maybe i'm missing something?01:14
api984did anyone try Z-PUSH, Funambol or OpenChange?01:14
callmeasalut01:16
tomasm-hmmm, ffmpeg -formats | grep mp3 shows "DE" (decode/encode), so I don't get why it doesn't like it. codec id 86017 not found01:16
callmeaJe me posais une question, j'ai un nom de domaine que je n'utilise pas et je voudrais avoir des avis. j'envisage de faire une sorte de database de documentations de sources opensource à destination des developpeurs.01:17
callmeaAussi bien web que applicatifs. vous en pensez quoi?01:17
tomasm-oh wait seems to work now..... was missing libavcodec-extra-52 (whatever that is)01:18
sam113101que #ubuntu-fr serait plus approprié01:18
callmeaSam : Merci je croyais que j étais sur le -fr :). Sorry everybody i thought i was on the french channel :=01:20
callmea:)01:20
tomasm-callmea, en anglais?01:21
callmeatomasm-,  Yes in english and french01:22
callmea:)01:22
Neptuhej someone knows how to get the system services?01:30
FerksweUhmm. I have a slight problem. I installed gnome, following a neat guide and all, but I think there's something wrong with something. My background looks like something taken out of minecraft :S01:31
DataoriginalHello everyone01:33
FerksweI'm quite sure that my desk shouldn't look like this. http://i.imgur.com/VkhzrgK.png Image is extra wide due to having two monitors01:35
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usr13Ferkswe: What video card do you have?01:36
Ferksweusr13: Some Ati thing. Got a command to check? :)01:37
FerksweAlso, my keyboard settings seem to keep reverting back to english from swedish01:38
MrokiiHello. Is there any other way to get a Desktop-zoom function (like in Compiz) without actually using Compiz?01:38
usr13Ferkswe:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga01:39
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usr13Ferkswe: Ctrl-Alt-F6  login and do:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga  and  grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #See what video card and what driver you are using.01:40
Cyanhey. sup. i'm having a minor issue involving the LTS, UEFI, and grub.... i'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8 but for whatever reason 12.04 can't detect my UEFI partition.... it gave me an error saying something about it requiring a partition marked as reserved for bios01:40
usr13Ferkswe: tell us:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga |pastebinit  & grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit01:40
usr13Ferkswe: Send URLs01:40
Ferksweusr13: It just replies No such file or directory01:41
Cyani installed 12.10 the other day without a hitch. i didn't stick with it because apparently fglrx is broken01:41
usr13Ferkswe: What command?  lspci |grep -i vga01:42
usr13?01:42
Ferkswe /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga01:42
FerksweAdded the missing space before grep too01:42
usr13Ferkswe: lspci |grep -i vga01:42
FerksweAh gotcha01:43
FerksweMobility Radeon HD 465001:43
usr13grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:43
usr13Ferkswe: How are you getting this?  From tty6 or ssh from another PC? Or _________________?01:45
Ferksweusr13: I'm at my pc, everything else works fine. It's just the background and the icons (except the network one)01:45
Ferkswehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5600752/01:45
usr13Ferkswe: xrandr |pastebinit01:47
Ferkswehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5600756/01:47
usr13Ferkswe: How are these two monitors connected?  (What kind of cables?)01:48
FerksweOne hdmi one vga01:48
usr13Ferkswe: Is this a Desktop PC?01:49
usr13Ferkswe: What version of Ubuntu is installed?01:49
FerksweThe vga one goes through a docking port, but afaik it connects to the regular vga01:49
FerksweLaptop. 12.1001:49
usr13Ferkswe: Fully updated?01:49
FerksweYa01:49
usr13Ferkswe: If not, do:  sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade01:50
Ferksweusr13: I think so atleast. let me doubblecheck.01:50
FerksweIt's doing it's thing with the updates and stuff01:52
usr13Ferkswe: Mean time, let's see;  To the laptop's own monitur, looks like it's setting up a screen size of 1366x768. Out of the VGA port it is sending a screen size of 1280x1024. And out of the HDMI port: 1920x1080  Hummmm.... does all that sound right for the three monitors?01:53
FerksweWell, laptops monitor is disabled. Only supports running two monitors at once (atleast it did in windows, when I tred in ubuntu earlier, I got bad results)01:54
usr13Ferkswe: Do they all look the same?01:54
Ferksweusr13: same as in_01:54
usr13Ferkswe: Same as in looking the same.  What do you see? (With your eyeballs :)01:55
usr13Do the two displays show the same distorted screen?01:55
Ferksweusr13: Exactly what's on the picture, The pixeled background and stuff. I might add that on the last reboot, background was pixeled but not in the same way.01:56
Ferksweusr13: Yes.01:56
usr13Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1366x768 correct for the display that is connected to the VGA port?01:57
usr13Sorry, it's 1280x102401:58
usr13Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1280x1024 correct for the display that is connected to the VGA port?01:58
Ferksweusr13:  Yes01:58
usr13Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1920x1080 correct for the display that is connected to the HDMI port?01:58
FerksweIt wants 1280x1024 @ 60Hz01:59
Ferksweusr13: Yes.01:59
FerksweHm. I just noticed. When I try to open the menu on my actual screen, it says Monitor controls locked. Interesting. I guess Ubuntu handles them?02:00
usr13Ferkswe: How are the updates coming along?02:00
FerksweSeems to be stuck at reading package lists02:00
usr13Ferkswe: "actual screen"?02:00
FerksweFetched 374 kB in 4s (75,7 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done02:00
Ferksweusr13: YOu know, the menu you access when you click the buttons on the screen itself_02:01
usr13Ferkswe: This PC *is* connected to the internet, Right?02:01
alfwedhi02:01
FerksweYes.02:01
FerksweI'm on it right now. Talking to you :D02:01
alfwedMay I ask a question?02:01
usr13Ferkswe: Are you on a tty?02:02
usr13Ferkswe: tty6?  tty5?  tty4?  ____________?02:02
usr13Ferkswe: Or tty7?  (The GUI?)02:02
usr13Ferkswe: OH, this is a Desktop Background image that is distorted?02:03
FerksweUhm. No idea? I mean, I'm sitting right infront of the computer, logged into it.02:03
ASmathI have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Noyhing happende..02:03
Ferksweusr13: Yup.02:03
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ASmathhappened*** Please.. can anybody tell me something?02:04
phenriqueis there a tutorial de installation of subversion on ubuntu 12.04?02:04
usr13Ferkswe: Ok, I think I've got it.  The Desktop Background image is pixelated.  Ok.  I'm starting to catch on now.  Sorry. I'm kinda dense sometimes.02:04
leptonealfed, dont "ask to ask" you have a better chance of a response if you just ask your question. try to be concise but thorough02:04
ASmath**something02:04
Ferksweusr13: I probably could have explained it a little bit better too.02:04
alfwedphenrique, sudo apt-get install svn02:04
Ferksweusr13: The background image, and the icons at the top.02:04
usr13Ferkswe: Try a different image. (Maybe a very large (high resolution image).02:05
jpmhI have a system, I am on it now, hat has THREE bootable systems on it, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu.  They are all configured vastly differently because each is a copy of a running system that is installed in hundreds of installations.  If I change /etc/default/grub and run grub-update, nothing changes.  What should I be changing?02:05
Ferksweusr13: Thing is, when logging in the image is fine, but then, right before the menu thing starts it becomes pixelated02:05
alfwedleptone, k thanks02:05
ASmathjpmh: So redundant.. No offense..02:06
usr13Ferkswe: What Desktop Environment is it?02:06
usr13Ferkswe: Is it Unity?02:06
Ferksweusr13: gnome 302:06
alfwedI've added a ppa to install php5.4 with this command 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5' but when i try to update php, apt tells me it's already up to date. What am I doing wrong?02:06
usr13Ferkswe: Do you have another you can try?  Like Unity or Xfce or Lxde ?02:07
alfwedI've installed it a few days ago on another machine and it worked fine... I don't understand...02:07
FerksweWell, it's a fresh system. It started with Unity, which I replaced with Gnome.02:07
ASmathI have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Nothing happened..  Can anybody help me?02:07
FerksweUnity didn't have these problems02:07
MrokiiIs there a way to change the destination of the "standard" folder-icons in the Nautilus-sidebar (like Videos, Pictures, etc)? So that they point to somewhere else instead of the home folder?02:08
leptonewhats the ubuntu equivlent of ctrl+alt+delete02:08
usr13Ferkswe: I really don't know.  I'm just grasping at straws here.  I'm thinking that it is just a pixelated image though.02:08
Ferksweusr13: But it's not. Hold on02:08
ASmathusr13: KDE...02:08
gb74hello02:08
usr13Ferkswe: It's KDE?02:09
gb74does touch have its own channel?02:09
alfwedHow can I be sure my ppa is taken into account by apt-get?02:10
jpmhASmath: Give me a better way that I can have "exact copies that boot, exactly as they do in the stores I support"  I would love to avoid that but can not come up with a method by which I can do a sales and/or support call02:10
usr13Ferkswe: What ever it is, I think I'd either change the Desktop background first.  If that doesn't do it, I'd just try another DE02:10
Ferksweusr13: It's gnome.02:10
jpmhASmath: actually the Xununtu is a POS system and the Lubuntu is a Kiosk system for coffee shops, the Ubuntu is mine.  The sales staff all have the same setup so they can boot and show the customer exactly what he will see02:11
usr13Ferkswe: Try another DE.  Unity or Xfce or Lxde or ....?02:11
ethana3So, I've been trying to get my logitech dual action gamepad working for a while, and I have given up on googling, as all solutions i've found have failed02:11
FerksweIsn't unity still gnome, just a plugin/addonthing? (I think i read that somewhere today)02:11
ethana3if I buy a PS3 or Xbox360 controller, will it Just02:12
ethana3Work**02:12
ASmathjpmh: Interesting!02:12
Ferkswebrb.02:12
usr13Ferkswe: I really don't know.  I'm just grasping at straws.  Maybe someone else on here can give you some advise.02:12
jpmhASmath: so, do you have a better approach ?02:12
ASmathjpmh: My backtrack became Ubuntu LL.. Anyway. Exist a bootloader that can give you a graphical boot mode it may can be useful..02:13
* saintlulu loves the Ubuntu community people who help each other all the time. Thanks everybody!02:14
jpmhASmath: not sure what you mean - please explain.  What I would like to be able to do is set the POS salesman so his default is the POS system and the Kiosl salesman so his is the Kiosk and mine of course to be REAL ubuntu02:15
Taevwhat software would i need, and how would i do it if i wanted to set music files on my webserver to stream02:17
Taevinstead of having to be downloaded02:17
ASmathjpmh: Sorry.. I did not understand what you want to do.. Exist three O.S. and do you want to be able to use all of the in the same time?02:18
ferksweusr13: Changed the picutre now, and relogged, Here's the original02:20
jpmhASmath: No - I specifically DO NOT WANT all three at once.  I want that when I am operating as  a POS system that I am running a system that is the same as my POS customers, same OS, same apps, etc.  I just want to be able to set the default that will come up other than the first02:20
ferkswehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CarNcodpCMA/TMttARKIlYI/AAAAAAAAJlI/HAaYj4ecRYY/s1600/mushroom-graphicsfairy004b.jpg02:20
ferksweAnd here's what it turned into i.imgur.com/37bEuto.jpg02:20
sam113101wayyyy cooler02:21
sam113101it's psychedelic, I like it02:21
ASmathjpmh: Just a second..02:22
ASmathsam113101: :|02:22
jpmhASmath: ty - please bare in mind that the issue seems to be that I somehow have a loader other than the grub one that I think I have since the /etc/default/grub does not seem to be what happens02:23
sam113101ferkswe: it doesn't do that with unity, right? only with gnome?02:23
usr13ferkswe: Ok, so the image is 1,423px × 1,600px02:23
usr13sam113101: I think that is correct.  He said it looked ok in Unity.  Right ferkswe ?02:24
sam113101because I had the same thing with gnome02:24
seanleeanyone using ubuntu in vagrant? I have some trouble setting it up...02:24
ASmathjpmh: Have a look: http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-configfile.html it may can be useful..02:24
usr13ferkswe: It is a gnome issue.  I would say that you should ask at #gnome02:25
usr13ferkswe: /join #gnome02:25
sam113101yeah exactly02:25
ASmathjpmh: It is transmissible.. Do not mind the O.S.02:25
usr13I don't have a clue.... (I don't use that DE so I'm kind-of, not much help...)02:25
ferksweusr13: sam113101 Okay, will do that tomorrow. It's waay too late here right now.02:26
ferksweusr13: Thanks for helping, or atleast trying to!02:26
SunStaryou want to edit the drub bootloader default OS?02:26
usr13ferkswe: I understand.  Sorry we couldn't be more help.02:26
ferksweHave a great night everyone!02:27
ASmathferkswe: You too.. It is rare...02:27
ASmathjpmh: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html it is a better way to learn about your problem..02:28
ASmathdr_willis: Can you see my problem?02:29
ASmathdr_willis: I have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Nothing happened..02:29
jpmhASmath: I suspect that my issue is that the real grub that is being executed is on the /dev/sda1 but I am actually running on /dev/sda7 which is on an extended /dev/sda2 - really I suspect now that my question becomes, how do I update that one02:32
ASmathbazhang: It is a good way to joinin a webchat without the ip.. I do not know hot to do that..02:32
ASmathjpmh: Try boot in the sda7 sda2 and do that one by one..02:33
SOwhoisntmeHello ubuntu. I'm interested in tweaking a dpkg package. Am I correct that the .debian.tar.gz files are as a rule under no form of version control (other the fact that they normally contain a series of quilt patches).02:34
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cryospheremy question - http://pastebin.com/vYWXhxqD02:35
sam113101what's the prefered way to launch applications at boot?02:35
sam113101I tried "startup applications" but it doesn't seem to work02:36
twmbevery time I try to pass "install auto=true priority=critical url=http://my.url.com/seed.file" I get the message "invalid or corrupt kernel image"02:36
cryospheresam113101: /etc/init.d02:36
ASmathjpmh: If you want to put all of it in just one, have  to update with the command "grub-update" or "grub2".. normally is automatically..02:36
sam113101just want to run xmodmap02:36
jpmhASmath: what do you mean - right now I am running off /dev/sda702:36
sam113101so when my session launches02:37
jpmhASmath: Messages crossed there - I suspect I need to grub-update the one on /dev/sda1 but how do I do that?02:37
cryosphereany takers?02:38
ASmathjpmh: I am not an expert in ubuntu.. I would like help you, meantime, I do not know. I have one question here too.. Nobody can answer.02:40
jpmhASmath: ty for the try anyway02:41
_cronus_ASmath, have you tried apt-get autoremove after you removed ubuntu-desktop?02:42
alexandros_chow to remove linux 3.5.0-26 from ubuntu that was installed but  not configured?02:42
ASmathThe way is listen to Tchaikovsky and try..02:42
ASmath_cronus_: Yes...02:43
ihreAfter every reboot I recieve the following error when I try to access it with ssh: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". How can I fix this ?02:44
tomasm-why is it that ffmpeg has moved to the avconv fork, and yet speaks of deprecation? I mean why not just have two tools? avconv is broken. is there a way to get the REAL ffmpeg for ubuntu 12.10?02:44
ASmath_cronus_: continue in gnome environment and a lot of useless programs..02:44
ASmathactually I liked the ubuntu LL environment.. I like KDE anyway.02:46
_cronus_ASmath, maybe grep ' install ' /var/log/dpkg.log will give you a hint on what to remove next02:46
BlackWebI'm running into a problem with a 3TB hard Drive wondering if anyone could help me out, I installed a Brand New Drive, Which First i did "parted -a optimal (Device)"; mklabel gpt; mkpart; start0% End100%; quit; Then mkfs.ext (Device/partition) Which Doing it this way I'm running into Input/Output Error, So I tried creating the filesystem through parted and received a similar error stating Unable to Read SuperBlock or similar to tha02:46
BlackWebt02:46
BlackWebAny Ideas?02:47
ASmath_cronus_: Grep?02:47
Taevyou may want to see if the kernel or the Flavor can support a 3TB drive BlackDex02:48
_cronus_ASmath, just an idea...02:48
Taever BlackWeb02:48
Taevback in the day i bought a brand new 40gb HD02:48
Taevand linux's kernel didnt support it yett02:48
Taevdidnt matter how i partitioned it02:48
CrazyEyedMutthey anyone know the help room for hexchat?02:48
CrazyEyedMutti have a registered name for xchat, but it didnt seem to register when i openned hexchat02:49
ASmath_cronus_: I will try and reboot.. I come back later.. Thank you.02:49
BlackWebAlright ya its weird, I build 2 new systems same specs, 1 is running 12.04 Server, & other 12.04 Standard, & 3TB Hard Drive worked on server but cant get it to work on standard02:49
CrazyEyedMuttdoes windows have terminal support in powershell like linux? and a community that supports freely like ubuntu? i mean willl they help windows users like ubuntu helps?02:51
Nach0zurm02:51
Nach0zCrazyEyedMutt: terminal ain't really powershell, they're kinda different animals02:52
CrazyEyedMutti owuld have thought ubuntu would help more - hm - this is a strange night - ubuntu is almost always very responsive.  maybe next time02:52
Nach0zthat being said, if you fire up cygwin or msys or some such, I'm sure you could find people willing to help in the linux channels. apart from that, ask in the windows channel02:52
Nach0z... or no02:52
Nach0znvm :|02:52
NanaharuOn my old computer I had made it so that I could dual boot ubuntu and ubuntu. Now that I was able to purchase a second computer for ubuntu, I no longer need the ubuntu partition on my other computer. Does anyone know how to get rid of ubuntu? I'd like to just start over kind of?02:53
Nanaharu***Dual boot windows and ubuntu...02:53
ciukkohi02:54
Jasonhow can I get those floodbots that ubuntu's channel uses?02:54
Nach0zum02:54
Nach0zNanaharu: which windows02:54
Nanaharuwindows 702:54
Nach0zalright then, first off02:55
Nach0zboot win7, go to disk manager02:55
Nanaharuokay~02:55
ciukkome pari un disk manager02:55
Nach0zright-click the little 100MB partition (windows's SYSTEM partition, it's win7's boot manager)02:55
Nach0zset it to active02:55
jribLjL: you have a customer (see Jason)02:55
Nanaharuokay~02:55
Nach0zreboot, see if GRUB still appears. if not, you're good for step two. I'd start there though02:55
Jasonjrib: thought it may be ljl02:55
ciukkoacr02:56
Jasonjrib: he gave em to me one time before: i lost it :P02:56
Nanaharuwhats step 2?02:56
jribJason: I don't know if he's released the source though, but he'd be the first person to talk to02:56
Jasonjrib: yeah, i've had it before02:56
Jasonjrib: just lost the code.  i'm sure there have been updates02:56
ciukkopizza time02:56
jribJason: probably sleeping at this time (he's in italy)02:56
Nach0zNanaharu: step two is deleting the ubuntu partition and expanding the windows one, but if you do that before you get step one working, you'll have a brick essentially02:56
NanaharuOh okay~ so if the grub shows up then that means I'll run into the brick?02:57
Nach0zif grub shows up, then you gotta keep trying02:57
tomasm-can anyone explain why avconv claims to function as 'ffmpeg', and says ffmpeg is obsolete, when it seems to be a political issue rather than practical issue? ie refusing to package the ffmpeg core and having this seeming (broken) fork replace it02:57
Nach0zbasically either the win7 boot screen will appear, or grub will02:57
Nach0zonce you get it so that grub doesn't appear you can just get rid of the ubuntu partition02:58
twmbDoes anybody here use preseed files ever?02:58
NanaharuOh okay~ so by making the windows partition active the way that you said, should allow that?02:58
SonikkuAmericatwmb: In a Wubi install a preseed config is required for the installation to work.02:58
Nach0zemphasis on should.02:59
NanaharuOkay~ if it doesn't can I use a program like gparted to do the same thing?02:59
Nach0zNanaharu: if I were you, I'd go ahead and burn either a gparted liveCD, or a supergrub2disk, before doing any of that, if you're worried about messing things up02:59
Nach0zgparted might do the same thing too, haven't tried from there recently02:59
twmbSonikkuAmerica: I'm trying to use a custom seed file hosted on a website, but every time I try to use my command I get the response "invalid kernel image" or something03:00
NanaharuI've already backed up all my files, and I'm not incredibly worried if everything blows up, it would just be nice if things go smoothely ^.^03:00
SonikkuAmericatwmb: What kernel are you trying to write for?03:00
twmbubuntu 12.1003:00
twmbhttp://mobilemd.cs.uwec.edu/ncur/mobile.seed03:00
SonikkuAmerica!kernel | twmb03:01
ubottutwmb: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)03:01
stan879nzhello im having trouble login i have no gui i can login using ctrl +f2 and rdpx has stopped workin03:01
Nach0zNanaharu: then yeah, just fire up disk manager and set the little partition to active03:01
twmb38603:01
twmbubuntu-12.10-desktop-i38603:01
Nanaharunach0z : awesome~! Thanks~!03:01
Nach0znp.03:02
* Nach0z -> sleep03:02
SonikkuAmericatwmb: Do  uname -r  in a terminal03:02
stan879nzhow do i get back my gui?03:02
lb27stan879nz: how did you lose it?03:02
stan879nznot sure?03:03
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Did you lose it after a reboot?03:03
stan879nzyes03:03
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Do you recall needing to reboot for a special reason?03:03
SonikkuAmerica(such as an update)03:04
ciukkobukkake03:04
stan879nzyes i think so03:04
ciukkogoatse03:04
SonikkuAmericatwmb: What's the result of  uname -r ?03:04
ciukkotupac03:04
twmbfrom using the try without installing,03:04
ciukko2pac03:04
twmb3.5.0-17-generic03:04
stan879nzthat would have been the only reason03:05
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Were you using a proprietary graphics card driver?03:05
twmbSonikkuAmerica: 3.5.0-17-generic (try without installing, don't know if that makes a difference)03:05
stan879nzumm im not to sure i have a nvidia 610 gt03:06
io7gdD0T03:06
stan879nzi tryed to intall drivers03:06
SonikkuAmericatwmb: It most certainly does... the latest kernel for 12.10 is 3.5.0-23-generic (I think, someone help me out here)03:06
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Well there you go... so it appears whatever drivers you used didn't work.03:07
stan879nzis there a way to remove?03:07
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: How did you install the drivers?03:07
twmbSonikkuAmerica: Does it make a difference if it's not fully installed? This is the latest ISO from the ubuntu.com/download website, I used UNetBootIn to put it on a flash drive, and I'm using the current "try without installing" option03:07
SonikkuAmericatwmb: I probably couldn't tell you until you actually installed the thing somewhere03:08
stan879nznvidia site03:08
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Shell script?03:08
cryospheremy question - http://pastebin.com/vYWXhxqD03:09
cryosphereany takeers03:09
john_ramboI am trying to convert a flv video to 3gp with Mobile Media Converter but I am getting this error >>>> http://pastebin.com/j4XGET0803:10
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: At any rate, we'll need to head for a console (terminal)03:10
Pinkamena_Dif i add something to /etc/rc.local to be run at startup, do i have to put sudo before each line or does it run as root by default?03:10
patritest....03:10
stan879nzi just foung y i have no rdpx ethernet was unpluged03:12
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: What?03:13
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Is that *found *out?03:13
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the easiest way to do this is to restore the xorg.conf.backup file the shell script made when it installed the driver03:13
tomasm-hey who do I complain to about the issue with packages or the lack thereof?03:13
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: so run  ls /etc/X11/  and pastebin the result03:14
stan879nzok so i can get the gui from rdpx but if i use a screen thats plugin to the pc i have no gui03:15
dannyjorisI've been trying to set up Ubuntu server on my Mac 10.6.8 using virtualbox, but both th 32 and 64 bit versions failed. linux-generic-lts-quantal errors mostly. I'd love to learn more about setting up Ubuntu servers, but I can't even get it running in virtualbox03:15
stan879nzok ill try and do that paste bin03:15
dannyjorisany suggestions?03:15
SonikkuAmericatomasm-: What do you mean, the "issue with packages"?03:16
stan879nzls /etc/X11/ no such file or dir03:16
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Are you sure this is Ubuntu Desktop and not Ubuntu Server?03:17
tomasm-SonikkuAmerica, I've been trying to use ffmpeg to convert flac to mp3, but due to some political drama, debian/ubuntu is using 'avconv' which is NOT ffmpeg, but names it that, and refuses to package the actual 'ffmpeg' tool. they're are inconsistent and avconv is broken in my case.03:17
tomasm-someone needs to put the core ffmpeg back into the repos03:17
SonikkuAmericatomasm-: Do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?03:18
stan879nzmmm how can i tell the difference between server and destop?03:19
lb27tomasm-: barring everything else, you could still compile ffmpeg for as long as you have a copy03:19
tomasm-lb27, I can survive, I just want to make it clear that packaging avconv as ffmpeg is a mistake and I'm not pleased03:20
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Run this:  lsb_release -a03:20
escottstan879nz, you can have a system that is server+desktop so "tell the difference" isn't a very well defined question03:20
lb27tomasm-: I've seen a prompt about them phasing out ffmpeg for a while, but it appeared to be similar, where are you running into differences? asking because i sometimes use that as well03:20
stan879nzDescription ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS03:21
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: Oops, I goofed. Here's the command:  cat /etc/motd03:22
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: If there's process information under the "Welcome to Ubuntu!" message it's server.03:22
tomasm-lb27, it's only being 'phased out' for political reasons. the ffmpeg package is actively developed and in fact better than avconv.... there was a whole political drama a few years back and debian/ubuntu have sided with avconv, which I find not wise since avconv is broken. specifically in my case, converting flac to mp3, the ID3 track length is way off, ie a 2 minute song says 10 minutes or whatever. just broken and unacceptable for my use (co03:22
tomasm-mmercial web app).03:22
escottSonikkuAmerica, unless someone changes motd in which case it doesn't tell stan879nz anything03:23
escottstan879nz, why does it matter if something is server or desktop, considering they could just install ubuntu-desktop on a server or apache on a desktop03:23
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escottstan879nz, if you knew why it mattered that would provide a direct answer to your real question which is how to make whatever you are sitting at act the way you want03:24
escott!xy | stan879nz03:24
ubottustan879nz: The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.03:24
SonikkuAmericaI actually doubt stan879nz is running a server-only, GUI-less infrastructure, given that his GUI died after an update.03:24
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SonikkuAmericaI probably made the problem into a giant snowball.... :\03:25
stan879nzok03:26
twmbSonikkuAmerica: Yeah this preseed stuff definitely isn't working as it used to for me :/03:26
SonikkuAmericatwmb: To tell you the truth, I'm not exactly an expert on preseed files. :\03:27
SonikkuAmericastan879nz: We might start with  sudo startx03:29
stan879nzok from what i can see is that there is a problem with my gfx card not showing the gui at all. i have install a driver that has not worked and i cant find it, or remember what it is, i am using rdpx to mask the problem and get a gui is there a way to restore my gfx card driver to default?03:30
escottSonikkuAmerica, sudo startx is generally a very bad idea (TM)03:32
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escottstan879nz, what is rdpx, i'm not familiar with it. does it provide rdp? does it include an x server?03:33
SonikkuAmericaescott: Is there a better command? There is  sudo service $SERVICE start03:33
stan879nzyes it is a rdp i thing it does provide a xserver03:34
escottSonikkuAmerica, the problem with sudo startx is that it starts an interactive graphical shell as root (as opposed to a display manager), and that it does so within the users current home directory and environment03:34
stan879nzthink*03:34
escottstan879nz, so if it provides its own x server it more than likely does so purely in software and would not utilize any graphics cards on your system03:34
SonikkuAmericaescott: Oh... so it's better to invoke the DM as a service...?03:35
escottSonikkuAmerica, yes. ie sudo service lightdm [or gdm] [re]start03:35
* SonikkuAmerica nods to escott03:35
stan879nzyes thats what i thing  x server is bypassing the gfx card to give me a gui03:36
stan879nzon the remote machine03:36
escottstan879nz, (a) i dont know why you would do that as you could just install an x server on your client and tunnel X over the network (b) im confused as to why you have a graphics card in what is evidently a headless machine03:36
escottstan879nz, one thing that confuses many people about X is that the role of client and server are flipped. The client is the application running on the remote machine, it contacts the server which serves pixels on a display, but the server runs on the local machine03:38
stan879nzi put the gfx card i for "just in case but yes it is a headless machine03:38
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escottstan879nz, so from a unix desktop with a working X gui you can "ssh -X user@remote" and then kick off gui programs by name "xclock" etc and they appear locally03:39
escottnote that it is -X not -x03:39
ELSsup nerds03:40
escottstan879nz, if you want a remote session that persists beyond your ssh connection, and that has a full desktop, then you might want to look at something like VNC or FreeNX, both of which do require that an X server be running on the remote headless machine (but it can all be run in a framebuffer if you would like)03:40
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escottstan879nz, my recommendation would be to remove the graphics card from your headless server (because its headless) and your difficulties should disappear03:42
stan879nzwill do03:42
escottstan879nz, its not as if you expect to be able run a game like QuakeIII on your headless server and stream full rendered screens back across your network to a dumb client03:43
escottstan879nz, if you do decide you want the VNC/FreeNX experience then you will want to use a lightweight desktop such as unity-2d or lubuntu. ie something that does not use 3d effects on a desktop03:44
escottstan879nz, the driver you probably installed was probably nvidia-current or the like03:44
escottstan879nz, so you might want to remove that along with your card03:45
tucemiuxwhat is all this talk that ubuntu is going to be closed source? o.O03:45
escotttucemiux, signs that you are losing your mind and hearing voices?03:46
tucemiuxescott, have you heard of Mir ?03:47
escottyes03:47
tucemiuxI've been waiting for Wayland for a long whiles now and was been waiting on a video card that supports wayland, if ubuntu goes Mir then I'll probably stop using ubuntu03:48
escottas will i, but that doesnt make it closed source03:48
tucemiuxyou mean 13.04 will be developed like always?03:50
fermuchhello03:51
tucemiux!hello | fermuch03:52
tucemiux!hi03:52
fermuchis anyone here using HabitRPG?03:52
fermuchi'm seeking for a party :)03:52
tucemiuxwhat's HabitRPG ?03:52
fermuchhttps://habitrpg.com/03:53
escotttucemiux, you can have a legitimate complaint about the direction ubuntu is headed, but you shouldn't throw FUD like "closed source" around. Mir is GPL licensed as is the majority of the software canonical makes. in any case you should take further conversation about that to #ubuntu-offtopic03:53
fermuchmcored: what's Mir?03:53
tucemiuxfermuch, apparently its offtopic and we don't want to spam the channel with offtopic topics03:54
Nach0zthought it was a space program at some point03:54
fermuchtucemiux: oh, k03:54
fermuchthen I'll join -offtopic03:54
veryhappyhi guys, is there a way to remove *EVERYTHING* except the needed base packages on ubuntu? like back to the deepest roots?03:55
escottveryhappy, probably be easier to just reinstall. also you need to define the base. do you mean ubuntu-minimal?03:55
fermuchveryhappy: do you mean ubuntu with graphical interface?03:56
escottveryhappy, alternately you could ask dpkg for a list of all packages and filter out anything that is not in base and then remove all those03:56
fermuchit's way cleaner to reinstall03:56
veryhappyescott: no it is not easier, it would take more time... i have a version of gnome 12.04 installed on my notebook and i upgraded from a cd with 11.10 so i first had to upgrade from version 11.10 to 12.04 then install kde and the stuff, but i actually wanna get back to the roots, so yea the minimal stuff that i can get everything removed until i can install kubuntu-minimal or something and then set everything up, i wanna use on this 03:58
ItsMeLennyi seem to be running into some sort of memory problem, when i run oberons AOS, when it hits about 150mb it crashes03:58
veryhappyarch linux except that i have to set every little piece of arch linux that i don't wanna do on here03:58
escottveryhappy, what you want to do sounds strange but filter out "apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal" from your removal list04:03
veryhappyescott: it's not strange, arch linux's concept is, only install what you need, so i don't need gnome at all, but i installed it before to try it out... then i didn't want to burn another cd with kubuntu, what the heck sounds strange about that?04:03
veryhappyescott: ok, so how do i install ubuntu-minimal now and remove the other stuff?04:05
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, you need the alternative installation cd04:06
veryhappyItsMeLenny: what alternative installation cd?04:07
ItsMeLennythe ubuntu alt cd04:07
xanguaveryhappy: so you want to uninstall gnome and keep kde¿04:07
veryhappyItsMeLenny: ok for you again, i don't wanna burn a new cd right now and i can't neither04:08
escottveryhappy, dpkg -l will show what is installed, the apt-cache command will show what to keep04:08
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, install it onto a usb stick04:08
veryhappyescott: ok, well is kubuntu- and kde- the same stuff or a little bit different?04:08
escottveryhappy, kubuntu is ubuntu-minimal + kubuntu-desktop package which includes all the kde stuff04:09
veryhappyItsMeLenny: even with a live cd install i wouldn't get the minimalistic install that i wanna have04:09
janderson91zhey, i need some help. when i fullscreen youtube videos the video just looks stretched instead of maximized. how can i fix that?04:09
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, i didnt say livecd04:09
ItsMeLennyi said alternate cd04:09
veryhappyItsMeLenny: ok sorry about that, well i just want a minimalistic ubuntu system with a minimalistic kde-desktop system (i believe it's kde-workspace?)04:10
veryhappyand on top of that i set everything else up04:10
bcbc2veryhappy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:10
escottveryhappy, then you will have to define what you mean by "minimalistic kde-desktop" because there is no such package in ubuntu as far as i am aware04:11
eN_Joyrepost: my ubuntu box is almost solely as a web server, that being said, port 80 is open, however my ufw.log shows from time to time, access to port 80 is blocked, how so?04:11
veryhappyescott: kde-workspace i think04:11
ItsMeLennyi think what you're wanting to do is harder than you think, particularly if you're just going to install kde on top of it04:11
ItsMeLennywhy dont you just install openbox instead04:11
escott!find kde-workspace04:11
ubottuFound: kde-workspace, kde-workspace-bin, kde-workspace-data, kde-workspace-data-extras, kde-workspace-dbg04:11
eN_Joy e.g., http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589402/04:11
fermuchveryhappy: there's kdebase04:11
escott!info kde-workspace04:12
ubottukde-workspace (source: kde-workspace): KDE Plasma Workspace components. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.5-0ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 15 kB, installed size 150 kB04:12
veryhappyyea04:12
escottthat is hardly lightweight and minimalistic04:12
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, you are veryconfused04:12
veryhappygood that's what i wanted04:12
veryhappy:D veryconfused04:12
veryhappynope i know exactly what i'm doing04:13
escottyou may be confused but at least you are a happy confused person04:13
escotti suppose that is all one can ask for in life04:13
veryhappyescott: thanks04:13
veryhappyyea04:13
veryhappyguess so04:13
fermuchveryhappy: be aware. You can destroy your system if you don't do things right04:13
ItsMeLennyanyway, back to me :P04:13
veryhappyfermuch: all that can happen is i have to reinstall that04:13
veryhappybut i think i'm gonna use ItsMeLenny's tip and install ubuntu's minimal cd on a usb stick04:14
fermuchveryhappy: if you uninstall Xorg and all its dependencies you will have a pretty terminal04:14
veryhappyfermuch: i don't need a terminal i just wanted at the beginning a minimal system that i can set later up with all the stuff i only want04:14
veryhappyfermuch: got my idea?04:14
fermuchveryhappy: oh, so you want a more custom ubuntu?04:15
veryhappyfermuch: right man04:15
veryhappyfermuch: you finally got it04:15
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, its not ubuntu minimal, its ubuntu alternate, and theres an option to install minimal04:16
fermuchveryhappy: then you should try http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/04:16
OerHeksmore custom  will be the answer of <bcbc2> veryhappy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:16
fermuchI used to have that installed on my netbook04:16
veryhappywhat's the difference on there?04:16
ItsMeLennyi have !# on my notebook04:16
OerHeksalternate cd is discontinued, afaik04:17
fermuchOerHeks: ++04:17
fermuchItsMeLenny: !# is debian based, right?04:17
veryhappyOerHeks got me right, i can use your link that's also what i wanted to do so i can decide what i want to do, besides i have more than just one notebook i also have 2 pc's that should be enough04:17
veryhappywhat's !#?04:18
fermuchveryhappy: http://crunchbang.org/04:18
ItsMeLennyfermuch, yeah04:18
veryhappyah got it04:18
OerHeksveryhappy, you might even want to take a server iso and build on top of that.04:18
ItsMeLennyunfortunately, because its hard to get it to have the same packages as my desktop, i like them to match04:19
veryhappywhat's great about crunchbang?04:19
ItsMeLennyits just lightweight04:19
fermuchItsMeLenny: I only use debian on my server, because its the packages are too old. Are you using unstable or something?04:19
luckanyone know how to get eBooks via irc?04:19
veryhappyOerHeks: that's a nice idea but that system is gonna be used as a programming system04:19
fermuchluck: what do you mean by getting ebooks via IRC? o.O04:19
ItsMeLennyfermuch, it doesnt have the latest pygame, thats basically my only complaint04:19
veryhappyOerHeks: should i already go with version 12.10?04:19
ItsMeLennyand no one would explain how i could update it04:19
fermuchItsMeLenny: I know that feel04:19
veryhappyof ubuntu?04:19
luckfermuch: like for download...04:20
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, go with whichever version that makes you happy, im on 12.04 coz its an LTS release04:20
fermuchluck: but you know IRC is just for talking, right?04:20
veryhappyah ok04:20
veryhappyand what's great about crunchbang?04:20
holsteinluck: someone in an appropriate channel could link some for you or share04:20
OerHekssure, 12.10 runs fine. i am on Kubuntu btw04:20
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, !# is lightweight04:20
luckfermuch: I do know that04:20
luckholstein: that is what i want04:21
fermuchveryhappy: the great point about crunchbang is its lightweight04:21
veryhappyItsMeLenny: arch linux is so04:21
fermuchluck: and how do you want to get ebooks? With a bot?04:21
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, !# is based on debian and i prefer debian based distros04:21
holstein!ot | luck try here, or a channel where folks talk about ebooks..04:21
ubottuluck try here, or a channel where folks talk about ebooks..: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:21
luckfermuch: I don't know04:21
OerHeksluck , http://ubuntu-manual.org/  and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ is a good start04:21
veryhappyso crunchbang is the arch linux that's debian based?04:21
ItsMeLennyno04:21
ItsMeLennyits got nothing to do with arch04:22
fermucharchlinux is a different distro04:22
ItsMeLennyits a lightweight distro based on debian04:22
luckOerHeks: thanks buddy04:22
veryhappynope ItsMeLenny you got me wrong04:22
xanguaveryhappy: ItsMeLenny and is not supported here04:22
ItsMeLennyxangua, pardon?04:22
veryhappyxangua: did you write something different than just this stupid comment? then shut it04:23
holsteinItsMeLenny: crunchbang is OT here.. they have a channel though..04:23
ItsMeLennyi know, i wasnt talking about it04:23
luckanyone ? who has ubuntu-sever experience??04:23
ItsMeLennyholstein, i'm here asking why AOS oberon crashes when it hits 150mb, and asking how i can dedicate more ram to it04:24
fermuchwhats wrong with a little of off-topic chat when no one is asking questions, xangua ?04:24
holsteinluck: the users in #ubuntu-server would.. do you have a question about ubuntu server?04:24
veryhappyi just mean arch linux's concept is to let you install what you want to install and installs just a minimal system that you have to setup for yourself, and i mean is crunchbang like that except that it's debian based?04:24
holsteinItsMeLenny: hopefully one of the volunteers can help you with that04:24
veryhappyItsMeLenny: i just mean arch linux's concept is to let you install what you want to install and installs just a minimal system that you have to setup for yourself, and i mean is crunchbang like that except that it's debian based?04:24
holsteinveryhappy: try and help us maintain the /topic04:25
lxleup for beta testing if anyone is interested, www.lxle.net04:25
fermuchveryhappy: archlinux is way more than that. ArchLinux introduces a different package manager, which is IMO their war-horse04:25
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, no, its just designed to be lightweight, each distro has its own philosophy, each distro usually provides a minimal version as well04:25
avi44tHey folks can i run android sdk on ubuntu!04:25
fermuchavi44t: yes, you should download the SDK from android.com04:26
holsteinavi44t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK04:26
veryhappyholstein: that was just a little question... nothing more, but thanks that i might not ask one silly question about something else04:26
ItsMeLennyis there a terminal command which allows me to dedicate a selected amount of ram to a program?04:26
fermuchItsMeLenny: AFAIK no04:27
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veryhappyok guys, thanks for all the impressions so, i'm gonna get off before they tell me once a gain i might not speak about horses in hear or something else, that would REALLY be off-topic so, thanks for the tips with ubuntu-minimal and crunchbang, take care @ all the sane people in here...04:27
veryhappyok guys, thanks for all the impressions so, i'm gonna get off before they tell me once a gain i might not speak about horses in hear or something else, that would REALLY be off-topic so, thanks for the tips with ubuntu-minimal and crunchbang, take care @ all the sane people in here...04:28
FloodBot1veryhappy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:28
ItsMeLennyveryhappy, i think you will find that trying to build from a minimal base is harder than you think, you end up getting the minimal installed, then a DE, then nothing else runs04:28
X-warriordoes anybody have any idea how to search something about this problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/97iwvu2x1j38kfv/2013-03-09%2022.40.57.jpg It seems to happens when writing to a ext4 disk04:28
fermuchX-warrior: what does fsck says?04:28
baratahello04:32
alkaliv2Hi everyone, can someone help me look into bug #1097946? I was attempting to create a crash report and when I try to submit it to the webpage it says 'Page Not Found'04:32
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1097946 could not be found04:32
X-warriorfermuch, it is my os disk, so I need to boot with live cd to check it right?04:32
fermuchX-warrior: yes, you should04:33
fermuchX-warrior: but be cautious04:33
fermuchthat happened to me some time before04:33
fermuchmake a quick backup of your important data before you do anything04:34
SilvereXIs anybody able to help me update my graphics drivers?04:38
alkaliv2SilvereX, What version of Ubuntu are running and what type of graphics card is it?04:39
SilvereXalkaliv2: Ubuntu 12.04, AMD Radeon HD 4850. My problem is a bit more than simply updating them04:40
X-warriorfermuch, the strange thing is, I was running ubuntu 11.04 and then formated to ubuntu 12.10, and on both the same problem is happening. let me create a bootable pendrive04:40
fermuchX-warrior: then your disk maybe is broken04:40
alkaliv2SilvereX, I'll bite, what issue are you having exactly?04:40
X-warrioris it possible to be the ntfs one?04:41
fermuchX-warrior: what do you mean by that?04:41
X-warriorI have 2 disks on it, one for data (ntfs 2tb) and one for os...04:41
X-warriorso I'm just trying to think which one is broken04:42
fermuchX-warrior: is the ntfs mounted at boot time?04:42
SilvereXalkaliv2: Okay, so I've been having trouble with a couple of games. I can't run source games on steam (I get that RGB encode error message thing) and when playing Heroes of Newerth, I can't see the ground texture. I've heard that updating to the 13.1 drivers fix these issues. I downloaded it, removed my current drivers, then tried to generate a distribution-specific package. But when it finishes generating, after I click finish, it04:43
SilvereXsays there was an error and removes it. I can install it using the general installer, but then when I restart my system, the driver is gone and it boots to the command line04:43
luckhello my friends, how to get into cdrom using terminal?04:43
holsteinluck: try http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mount-drive-from-command-line-ubuntu-linux/04:43
efuseis there some hack or whatever to get unity at the bottom of the screen on 12.10?04:44
efusei want unity, but I want it at the bottom, where it belongs04:44
X-warriorfermuch, it is on fstab... but that problem doesn't happen at boot... seems to happen when I'm doing some write operations... like downloading torrents04:44
fermuchefuse: AFAIK no, but you can use something else04:44
efuseI like Unity.04:44
efuseI just don't want it on the left side of the screen04:44
efuseno one has made some hack to move it? I find that hard to believe.04:45
fermuchX-warrior: then what does dmesg says?04:45
holsteinefuse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher04:45
holsteinefuse: http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/04:45
efuseholestien: doesn't work o 12.10, complains about the directory not existing04:46
efuseW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found04:46
fermuchefuse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher04:46
holsteinefuse: you can type "hol" and use tab to autocomplete my nick (and others)..04:46
alkaliv2SilvereX, Ok before I get into my advice I wanted to say that if my advice isn't on par that # radeon and # radeonhd are the two official ATI driver support channels.  They may have better advice than me, but let me give it a go04:46
efuseholstein: I am aware04:46
holsteinefuse: i would purge that ppa then04:47
efusegood idea, but that doesn't get me a proper unity launcher.04:47
fermuchefuse: «As of 12.04 you can not move the launcher, and there’s no official support for that.This is by design, and so far, there are no Canonical plans to change that.»04:47
efusei don't care about cannoical's bad design. i just want a fix.04:47
fermuchefuse: then write it04:47
holsteinefuse: http://www.linuxine.com/story/ubuntu-1210-move-dock-bottom suggests using another launcher.. i do too04:48
efusenot interested in investing that kind of time. has someone else done the work for me?04:48
efusei don't want another launcher. i was very specific in my requets.04:48
efuse*request.04:48
holsteinefuse: your request has an answer.. its not moveable in 12.1004:48
efusewhy the fuck not?04:48
fermuchefuse: we are not here to fix a launcher for you04:48
OerHeksunity is hardcoded so good luck finding a solution04:48
fermuchefuse: if you dont want to invest your time fixing that, hire a developer for you04:48
efusei don't get that, what is so bad about choice? i thought that was the whole idea behind linux?04:48
holsteinefuse: watch the language please.. the volunteers here do not maintain unity04:49
efusewhy can't I choose to have the launcher wherever I want?04:49
fermuchefuse: then choice another launcher04:49
efusechoice is a toggle to move the launcher.04:49
holsteinefuse: we are talking about unity. not linux.. you can choose another launcher or DE.. or look at the code04:49
efusechoice is a toggle to move the launcher.04:49
efuserequesting one now.04:49
efusethis is a blocking bug.04:49
holstein!wishlise04:49
holstein!wishlist04:49
alkaliv2SilvereX, I can see you're trying to keep it clean by creating a .deb file which is good if it was a perfect system.  I would say that with the drivers completely removed and back to the stock ATI driver that you use the driver directly from the website compiled against your kernel04:49
OerHeksor brainstorm04:49
holsteinefuse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist04:50
fermuchthat is not a blocking bug. Change to another launcher if you don't like the way Unity works04:50
efuseIt is a blocker. I like the way Unity works, quite a bit. I just don't want it on the side of my screen.04:50
holsteinefuse: its not a bug at all.. its just not part of the design..04:50
fermuchthat's not even a bug. That's a design problem04:50
efuseit's a blocker.04:50
h00kefuse: consider something like Docky, the launcher just simply doesn't do that04:51
alkaliv2SilvereX, it's a .run file so you'll have to "sh" it from the command line but I can link you to a guide if you want to try it04:51
holsteinefuse: this is the support channel.. feel free and file a bug or wishlist04:51
efusedoes docky give me the super-cool unity search thingy?04:51
fermuchno04:51
efusewell, that won't work.04:51
h00kefuse: there may be a plugin or something, I don't know.04:51
SilvereXalkaliv2: Yeah, that'd be great04:51
efusei want that search thing and the launcher at the bottom. I don't understand how this is unreasonable.04:52
efusewhy does cannocial want to force a left sided launcher down my throat?04:52
sean__does any one know how to go about a netboot on a ppc G4 or what version of ubutnu/worhs best with this system?Linux04:52
OerHeksefuse lolz canonical does not.04:52
holsteinefuse: the code is open, and its not unreasonable at all.. this is just not the place for you to complain.. its the support channel04:52
fermuchefuse: it is not unreasonable. It is just not thinked that way04:52
sean__*/Linux works best?04:52
h00kefuse: we can't answer that question, you are free to try a different desktop environment, or another launcher.04:53
efusei am not done.04:53
h00kefuse: Do you have any other support questions we can help you with?04:53
efusei want someone to either write a fix or link me to one.04:53
holstein!ot | efuse04:53
ubottuefuse: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:53
efusei will not rest until justice is delivered04:53
fermuchefuse: then hire a developer04:53
X-warrior`fermuch, ops, my connection droped sorry04:53
holsteinefuse: you file a bug.. its not a justice issue.. this is a channel of volunteers for support of current software04:53
X-warrior`I can't see because system halt and then I reboot and if I check dmesg.0 or others it seems the messages are gone... so I took a picture of it...04:53
fermuchX-warrior`: what does dmesg says?04:53
X-warrior`by halt I mean it is stucked04:54
efusei will file a bug rpeort04:54
efusewhile I do that, I want a workaround to get the dock at the bottom04:54
fermuchX-warrior`: then the problem is with your OS-disk04:54
alkaliv2SilvereX, also I'm pretty sure you should be using the legacy drivers per this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh04:54
holsteinefuse: there is not one.. but the code is available to you, or anyone you would like to get to help you with it.. just take it to another channel please, as its not a support topic04:55
TaMpeReNguys i installed xmind04:55
efusethis is a support topic04:55
h00kefuse: you can check the forums, as well04:55
efuseubuntu is unuable to me04:55
TaMpeReNandi wanna  uninstall it04:55
efusei need a fix.04:55
h00k!forums | efuse04:55
ubottuefuse: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums04:55
efusei don't need the url of the fourms.04:55
fermuchX-warrior`: are you here?04:55
SilvereXalkaliv2: I'm think that's the one I'm currently using, but I can't play source games or see the ground texture in HoN04:55
X-warrior`yes I'm trying to find some image of regular ubuntu since my pendrive is with ubuntu server04:56
fermuchX-warrior`: do a backup as fast as you can, before you do anything else04:56
holsteinefuse: i dont think any of the volunteers are interested in providing you a fix.. nor is anything broken.. its just a preference, that you are welcome to have, but not going to resolve here04:56
efuseit's oppression04:56
X-warrior`the system is brand new, just some config on it... nothing on os disk that I can't lost04:56
efuseit's a corporation trying to force something down my throat04:56
fermuchX-warrior`: thats a pretty weird error, and it destroyed all my disk04:56
holsteinefuse: its a bar.. and please take it to the OT channel.. thanks04:57
efuseit's evil and runs opposed to common interests04:57
fermuchX-warrior`: and what about the ntfs one?04:57
alkaliv2SilvereX, 32 or 64 bit?04:57
fermuchX-warrior`: try to start the system without the ntfs disk04:57
SilvereXalkaliv2: 32-bit04:57
fermuchthat will say if the problem is with the ntfs disk or the OS disk04:57
alkaliv2go ahead and start the driver DL http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx04:57
fermuchi gotta go04:58
fermuchsee ya04:58
h00kefuse: then pick a different distro, but this isn't the place, so please stop.04:58
fermuchX-warrior`: good luck and do a god-send fsck!04:58
efusebut I want unity04:58
efuseand the unity search thing04:58
efusei just want it at the bottom of my screen04:58
efuseis that seriously too much to ask?04:58
FloodBot1efuse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:59
efusefor devs to not deliberatly try to break tweaks that make Ubuntu more usable?04:59
sean__any one know what version of ubuntu would work best with a ppc ubuntu machine or if there is a better suited channel  for my query?04:59
holsteinsean__: unfortunatley, PPC is quite end-of-life.. have you tried just downloading an image?04:59
h00kefuse: we've given you options on what you can do, or check the forums, or a different launcher. that's as far as it goes.04:59
efusei still have not been given a fix05:00
OerHeks!ppc05:00
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ05:00
lxlei was wondering if that was still available05:00
alkaliv2SilvereX, sorry about the delay, I can't find a single guide that doesn't make you turn the driver into a .deb05:01
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sean__hokstein: I am running the newest version of lubuntu but most things run slower than the original osx 9.05:01
KonataIs ubuntu 10.04 still support05:01
alkaliv2SilvereX, did you follow this method when you did it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website05:01
OerHeksKonata yes05:02
sean__holstein: I am running the newest version of lubuntu but most things run slower than the original osx 9.05:02
holsteinsean__: its too bad, but that might be as good as it gets.. did you try 10.04?05:02
KonataThank god05:02
Konatabecause i hate 12.04 with undying passion05:02
OerHeks!10.0405:02
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)05:02
Konata> April 201305:02
holsteinKonata: if you are missing gnome2, try xubuntu.. xfce is quite similar in look/feel05:02
Konatais there any other release that doesnt have the annoying taskbar thing05:02
OerHeks!nounity05:03
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic05:03
KonataOh man05:03
KonataY'all are awesome05:03
h00k!helpersnack05:03
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!05:03
sean__holstein: I think I will try that next I dont realy use this machine for much but suport for old Osx versions is very very limited.05:03
OerHeksOr give KDE a try :-)05:03
holsteinsean__: i run headless xless on my ppc hardware05:04
SilvereXalkaliv2: I didn't use that method. I'll purge fglrx and try it05:05
lxlei'm an lxde user myself05:05
alkaliv2SilvereX, let me know what happens05:05
sean__holstien05:08
sean__holstein: I may try that.05:08
nahatawhat application do i select to open "apturl" when trying to install flash on my ubuntu 10.04 LTS?05:10
OoTLinkello05:11
RokkrossHi.05:11
holsteinnahata: this might still be current http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how-to-install-flash-player-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/05:11
holsteinnahata: you wont get the latest flash05:11
OoTLinkI'm thinking of building a really cheap machine that will, because of the budget, probably run ubuntu05:11
nahataholstein: oh05:11
OoTLinkif I'm going to do that it means either celeron or low end amd05:11
OoTLinkany low end motherboards that work best or I should avoid? XD05:11
jose106anyone know why my wifi disconnects from the router when I unplug my laptop?05:12
ttoti0oTLink: How cheap?05:12
OoTLink$200 all inclusive XD05:13
OoTLinkmaaaybe $25005:13
jose106it stays connected if the power is not pulgged in05:13
ttotiJesus, do you have any parts yet?05:13
ttotijose: Could be a setting that disables the wifi on battery05:13
OoTLinkno :)05:13
nahataapparently i have 11.2 and i need 11.3, is there a package i need to click on that will try to update my already-installed flash?05:13
OoTLinkit's doable!05:13
OoTLinkbut it aint pretty lol05:13
jose106it might be, how do I change that05:14
OoTLinkI mean the budget will have to be 250 to keep myself sane though05:14
h00k!oy05:14
h00kah05:14
h00k!ot05:14
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alkaliv2jose106, can you manually turn it back on after it is unplugged?05:14
ttotijose106, read this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1624956.html05:15
jose106alkaliv2, there is a switch on the side but I keep it on05:15
MysticalBurrito[Hi.05:15
MysticalBurrito[I'm trying to share an internet connection between my ubuntu laptop and my other laptop running windows XP via Ethernet cable, how do I go about doing this?05:16
h00kMysticalBurrito[: you'll need a crossover cable if it's plugged directly in05:16
jose106ttoti, I{ll check it out05:17
MysticalBurrito[I will?05:17
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ubottuMysticalBurrito[: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing05:17
nahataso then is the issue that i can't upgrade from 11.2 to 11.3 flash because i'm on ubuntu 10.04?05:17
nahataso i can't do my LiveMocha french app :(05:17
holsteinnahata: chrome has current flash05:18
nahataoh, i think it's just they don't go above 11.2 at all for Linux05:18
h00kMysticalBurrito[: either a crossover cable, or each to a switch, yes05:18
nahataholstein: oh hmm... it's just so laggy05:18
nahatai don't like chrome but i guess i can use it for my LiveMocha05:18
holsteinnahata: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and you can decide what you want to do.. we cant support flash05:19
nahataholstein: ok05:19
nahatai'm just gonna get chrome anyway if it will work05:20
ikhiderHello, I want to install a seamonkey PPA, can anyone here show me how?05:24
h00kikhider: There should be the name of the PPA on Launchpad, did you find that?05:24
Capprenticeh00k,  http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=246737905:24
ikhiderh00k, I have this: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+ppa-packages05:25
h00k23:25 <              ikhider > h00k, I have this: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+ppa-packages05:25
h00k23:25 ::: part/#ubuntu oddie (~free@103.1.187.141) ()05:25
h00kbah05:25
h00kapologies, my chromebook is sensitive05:25
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h00kikhider: look at that link, see reply 8 and 10 :)05:26
h00kikhider: the link Capprentice had sent05:26
ikhiderh00k, I looked it up but get errors05:27
h00kikhider: what errors?05:27
Capprenticeread the second page. There is how u can get the latest seamonkey05:27
ikhiderCapprentice, Can you give me a link to the second page?05:28
androidhey guys, using ubuntu 12.10 with dual monitors, and they're both on a different gamma setting. i can use xgamma to change the gamma of both, is there a way i can change the gamma of just one?05:28
KonataHow can I download 10.0405:28
Capprenticehttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2467379&start=1505:29
CapprenticeKonata,  hey why do u want to download ubuntu 10.04 ?05:30
Konatabecause anything with gnome3 by default would be better off in a grave05:30
ikhiderCapprentice, http://pastebin.com/YFdXYdUA05:30
Capprenticethen download Pear OS05:30
nahataholstein: thanks, the flash works on chrome!05:30
Capprenticeikhider,  what version of Ubuntu u r using ?05:32
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ikhiderCapprentice, I just installed today05:32
mdh!u05:32
ubottuU is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt',  'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.05:32
ikhiderWhatever was on the official website05:32
xanguaikhider: you did realize that there was no ppa repository for quantal in the lin you provided¿05:33
Capprenticeoh. Then u cant get the latest Seamonkey I guess. U can check here - http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=seamonkey download the 11.04 version. It will work, but not recomended way of getting seamonkey.05:33
ikhiderCapprentice, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:joe-nationnet/seamonkey-beta05:33
ikhiderThat was what I put in the cl05:34
CapprenticeI do not use seamonkey now. Yes that is the PPA u need to add.05:35
MysticalBurrito[for some reason when I activate the hotspot mode for my Wifi it dosn't stay connected, is there a way to fix this?05:35
ikhiderCapprentice, Yeah, I don't know how to add a ppa05:36
ikhiderOr I borked it last time I tried05:36
ikhiderBut I am using the binary you linked me too05:37
ikhiderMebbe that'll do the trick05:37
ikhiderI just need to grab some e-mails I had stored away05:38
androidhow can i set this command to execute at startup: xgamma -display :005:39
androiderr buffer malfunction, i mean: xrandr --output DVI-I-3 --gamma 0.85:0.85:0.8505:39
androidcan I just add it to Startup Applications as the "Command"?05:39
Capprenticeikhider,  why u dont use chatzilla and simple mail addon on plain firefox ? what extra seemonkey gives u ? to add a ppa - sudo add-apt-repository ppa_name05:43
Capprenticethen sudo apt-get update05:44
Capprenticewrite these on a terminal (colsole)05:44
dr_willisandroid:  yes. or just make a script that launches it and add it to your  ~/.config/autostart directory05:44
androidthanks dr_willis05:45
androidlol05:47
diverdudeTo disable the touchpad on  my lenovo w520 i write the command: synclient TouchpadOff=1 in the command line. however i have to write it an arbitrary number of times before it takes effect. sometimes 3 times sometimes 20 times. why dont it just work the first time always?05:51
leandroi have a problem with compiz emerald, it's the windows' frames, when i go to the top right edge with the mouse i cannot click on the 'X' to close the window because it is not fully maximized, i've tried using different themes and other things, does anyone know what can i do?05:51
ghost_how every05:53
dr_willisleandro:  emerald is basicaqlly a dead project.. its really time to move on05:54
dr_willisleandro:  that said. id try some other themes for emerald. you may get lucky.05:54
dr_willisor try making your own theme05:54
coffeehey05:55
coffeecan some one help me05:55
dr_willisstate the problem coffee05:55
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leandrodr_willis: it's a behavior problem more than a theme problem05:56
leandrodr_willis: the only effect i want is the wobbly windows05:56
ZeloZelosstep right up, step on down get your support in #ubuntu right now, just ask away folks ask away. no need to ask to ask05:56
dr_willisleandro:  you dont need emerald for that/.05:56
dr_willisleandro:  and thats one of the most annoying 'eyecandy' effects of compiz. ;)05:57
|nv|s|b|eits also prolly in compiz settings, from experience make sure (move windows and resize windows is enabled and also window decorations is checked05:57
dr_willismade the wife puke05:57
leandroi dont?, thank u, im new using linux, hahah i like it!, what do u recommend for me to use then?05:57
manmani got an error trying to install ubuntu05:57
manmanerror executing commands how do i fix this05:58
|nv|s|b|ei use emerald all the time, its just a matter of patients and settings in compiz itself05:58
DM11what error05:58
leandrodr_willis: i dont?, thank u, im new using linux, hahah i like it!, what do u recommend for me to use then?05:58
dr_willisleandro:  if you are new to linux.. then i suggest forgetting emerald ever existed05:58
ghost_i tried to install lubuntu on a old box and it wont install how can i in sall it05:58
|nv|s|b|esheesh05:58
ZeloZelosleandro, are you having a issue with displaying windows n such?05:59
michael87so I'm back from windows 7. I want to make an aeroglass theme with ubuntu. I know most of the tricks and have something simulaur to aeroglass with ubuntu 12.04 and have learned how to get rid of most of the anoyying orangeness of ubuntu. Now one last thing. What do I have to do to change the window themes color? I tried hard to find a custom theme for ubuntu but all they do is change the buttons really. And they are all either grey or brow05:59
michael87n. I want more options with ubuntu. please help05:59
dr_willisleandro:  you can enable the wobbly windows with the normal Unity desktop and the 'ccsm' tool05:59
manmanits long and i cant copy and past but it has >>retval=1 >>stderr+ >>stdout=resize2fs1.40.605:59
dr_willis!ccsm > leandro05:59
ubottuleandro, please see my private message05:59
h00kghost_: why will it 'not install'05:59
ghost_hook i dont no06:00
manmanwho can help me06:00
leandrothe display looks alright the thing is when i go right to the top right of the screen with my mouse06:00
DM11what error manman06:00
leandroand i click06:00
leandrowindows should close06:01
leandrobut, since they aren't fully maximized due to an error06:01
dr_willismanman:  use a camera and take a picture of the screen/error and paste it to some site.06:01
leandrothey don't06:01
manmani cant really type it out06:01
manmanbut it is06:01
manmanerror executing command06:02
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DM11need more info than that  sorry06:02
h00k!verify | manman you can verify your install media to make sure it's not corrupt06:02
SilvereXalkaliv2: Okay, so I went and got some food then tried that tutorial, but the part that stumps me is the part that always has. I run the command it tells me to which opens the driver installer window. I choose to generate a distribution-specific package, it generates, tells me there was an error and then removes itself.06:02
ubottumanman you can verify your install media to make sure it's not corrupt: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:02
michael87 brb06:02
h00k!details | ghost_06:03
ubottughost_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:03
alkaliv2SilvereX, Can you pastebin me the output of the failure?06:03
DM11what command are you trying to execute06:03
blazcabhello every one, i have connect an additional monitor to mi laptop... well... when put a video in full screen  in it and i try to find an aplication in the laptop, the additional screen with a maximiced video come resized, someone used two monitors and have this issue?06:04
ZeloZelosleandro, are you using compiz for that action?06:04
blazcabI forget said that i use gnome306:04
manmandm1106:04
leandrozelozelos: yes i am06:05
manmanthis is my error06:05
manmanhttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/39355071.png/06:05
leandrozelozelos: that's the only bug i have, then everything works just fine06:05
dr_willisblazcab:  byvideo in full screen..  you mean a Flash video from a web site?06:05
ZeloZelosleandro, have you tried running a terminal and sudo compiz --replace? sometimes that helps fix things, sometimes it can make em worse, if it does just close the terminal06:06
SilvereXalkaliv2: It says "There were errors duringi nstallation. Details can be found in /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log The fglrx-install.log file shows: http://pastebin.com/x5bMWyzR06:06
manmancan some one help me with my error?06:06
leandroyes, i have tried that, also i  have installed emerald and replaced the command in 'window decorations'06:06
blazcabdr_willis: in totem or video player06:06
leandro(in compiz)06:06
DM11looks like you are tryimg  to setup a partition for installation06:07
leandrodo u understand what my problem is right?, maybe i haven't explained myself correctly..06:07
DM11windows is utilizing the media and blocking you06:07
ZeloZelosleandro, no i get it, at least one of the compiz options are not working right?06:08
DM11try installing putnof the windows environment06:08
manmandm1106:08
ZeloZeloshave you done sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compiz-extras06:08
michael87ok back06:08
michael87so I'm back from windows 7. I want to make an aeroglass theme with ubuntu. I know most of the tricks and have something simulaur to aeroglass with ubuntu 12.04 and have learned how to get rid of most of the anoyying orangeness of ubuntu. Now one last thing. What do I have to do to change the window themes color? I tried hard to find a custom theme for ubuntu but all they do is change the buttons really. And they are all either grey or brow06:08
michael87n. I want more options with ubuntu. please help06:08
FloodBot1michael87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:08
DM11like restarting and booting into ubuntu installation06:08
manmandm11 think you can help me out?06:08
alkaliv2SilvereX, try sudo apt-get install dh-modaliases then attempt the rebuild06:08
leandroyeah it's just that, i can't close windows like that, i have to 'search' or 'go slowly' to the 'X' in the windows in order to close em06:08
leandroi've tried all the window options and like 10 emerald themes, but they all have the same problem, (yet the windows appear to be fully 'maximized')06:09
ZeloZelosleandro, actually, after the update type sudo apt-get install compiz (then hit the tab key, twice if needed to see the other options06:09
ZeloZelosleandro, did you have unity on this install as well?06:10
ZeloZelosor gnome?06:10
blazcabdr_willis: do you know how to blocked the view full screen in video player06:10
manmanlookin for some help any one out there06:10
dr_willisleandro:  if all you want  is the wobbly windows effect.. theres no reason to be using emerald.06:10
diverdudeTo disable the touchpad on  my lenovo w520 i write the command: synclient TouchpadOff=1 in the command line. however i have to write it an arbitrary number of times before it takes effect. sometimes 3 times sometimes 20 times. why dont it just work the first time always?06:11
dr_willisblazcab:  ive never seen that issue in any video players here - other then flash videos when fullscreened.06:11
dr_willisblazcab:  i tend to use VLC as my main media player06:11
knoppiesIm having issues with tftpd (Im trying to PXE boot). I keep getting Error 2 access violation06:11
blazcabVLC.... fine... I didn't have this idea... i try it...06:12
dr_willisblazcab:  i use a dual monitor setup all the time with my Nvidia Cards. using the Twinview option.06:12
dr_willisOnly flash gives me that annoyance.. and its fixable.06:12
dr_willisin flash at least. ;P06:13
michael87I'm using wubi to experiment with ubuntu before I finally make the leap from windows 7. But I want to know how to change the grey window theme on ubuntu or should I look else where like kde. kde was alot easier to theme its just that I like unity's bar alot06:13
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html06:13
* mladoux dances with joy06:14
mladouxnew job FTW06:14
dr_willismichael87:  theres a few extra packagtes you can install. then theres some themes i use from various ppas -  lets see if i can find a beginners guide for doing it..06:14
dr_willismichael87:  may be a guide here -> http://www.webupd8.org/search/label/eyecandy?max-results=1006:14
dr_willisor you can look at the purty themes. ;)06:14
blazcabthnks dr_willis... now i can't try it... but when i can i'll tell you...06:15
dr_willismichael87:  seems you need to install -->   sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions06:15
dr_willismichael87:  then use the gnome-tweak-tool or other tweaker tools to select the theme you want to use.06:16
SilvereXalkaliv2: The package generation didn't fail, and I'm able to move onto the next step! I'll let you know if all the rest works06:16
X-warrior`I'm in a live cd, dropped with ctrl+f1 to a shell, runned fdisk -l, and then fsck /dev/sdb it say device busy, so I tried umount /dev/sdb it says that is not mounted... but fsck say it is busy... ideas?06:16
dr_willis set the new theme via GNOME Tweak Tool > Theme > Shell theme06:16
leptoneto run something its "./PATH/"  right?06:16
dr_willisleptone:  ./ would be starting where you are at.. its a relative path06:16
alkaliv2SilvereX, Awesome! Hopefully this is a step towards fixing this for good06:17
dr_willis /foo/bar/ is a full absolute path..    ./foo/bar/ is a relative path06:17
SilvereXalkaliv2: Hm, I am unable to execute sudo aticonfig --initial06:17
leptonedr_willis, sry? dont follow. want to run bin/64/bitcoin-qt06:17
X-warrior`is fsck as /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1, it seems to goes thru using /dev/sdb106:18
alkaliv2SilvereX, check post numbers 22 and 23 and see if that fixes it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22855.2006:19
knoppiesIm trying to install xubuntu using PXE, I keep getting tftp Access Violation.06:19
michael87dr_willis, I appreciate linking me but again these are all grey windowwed. I want to color the windows themselves. and then use metacity opacity to make it transparent and compiz to make the glass effect06:20
sam113101I NEED HELP06:20
knoppiessam113101, what do you need?06:20
dr_willismichael87:  with themes in ubuntu/gnome/unity you can mix and match differnt parts from differnt themes.. to get stuff looking about how you want. You dont have custome controll over a lot of the little things06:21
sam113101I'm trying to launch xmodmap when my session starts, but it doesn't work06:21
sam113101I have to do it manually06:21
dr_willisleptone:  so cd to the directory wher eits at and ise  ./bitcoin-qt06:21
michael87dr_willis, I was able to do this when I let kde manage unity. But it kinda went out of wack after that lol06:21
dr_willismichael87:  KDE is radically differnt then gnome/unity06:21
dr_willisI dont see how you let kde manage 'unity'06:22
sam113101why is it so hard06:22
michael87dr_willis, I installed unity while in linux mint and then kde. I believe the same could be done in ubuntu if you activate kubuntu in the backports or something06:22
sam113101does it get overridden or does it ever launch?06:23
dr_willismichael87:  sounds like a frankenstein design to me.06:23
dr_willissam113101:  you can auto start stuff at login from the .config/autostart directory06:23
SilvereXalkaliv2: sudo dpkg -i *.deb executes, but sudo apt-get -f install doesn't upgrade, install, remove, or not upgrade anything, and sudo aticonfig --inital still doesn't work06:23
SilvereXit says command not found06:23
michael87dr_willis, lol thats what I thought I had with linux. The power to make my pc what I want it to be but with stability as well. I love eyecandy06:24
michael87dr_willis, guilty obsession as a digital artist as well06:24
dr_williscomes to a point where you stop organizeing the pencils on your desk.. and  do some real work.06:24
sam113101dr_willis: that's what I'm using06:25
sam113101btw, is it better to use ~ or $HOME with those kinds of things?06:25
knoppiesIm with dr_willis on that one. It all started with the eyecandy though. I love compiz though, even without the eycandy.06:25
dr_willissam113101:  what are you having it do exactly?06:25
sam113101xmodmap ~/.xmodmap06:25
dr_willissam113101:  i find it best to use the FULL path06:25
knoppiessam113101, often $HOME, but only if you know $HOME exists at the time.06:25
dr_willisxmodemap /home/yourusername/.whatever06:26
sam113101I tried it too06:26
sam113101doesn't work06:26
dr_willisand what is your xmodemap command supposed to be doing?06:26
DM11ever consider cinnamon desktop environment06:26
sam113101swap keys? lol06:26
dr_willisDM11:  not really supported here. ;) so nope.. never considered it..06:26
dr_willisswap what keys?06:26
alkaliv2SilvereX, output for aticonfig --initial doesn't say anything like /usr/lib/fglrx/bin/aticonfig: No supported adapters detected06:27
sam113101http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601125/06:27
dr_willisHmm this guide mentions /etc/bash.bashrc06:28
SilvereXalkaliv2: Just says "sudo: aticonfig: command not found"06:28
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/54157/how-do-i-set-xmodmap-on-login06:28
michael87dr_willis, in either case I find unity far more stable then kde and user friendly as far as the unity bar is concerned. Personalization is a pain in the butt on here. And I've spent months researching tryying to theme it up and make it more pleasing to the eye with very little success. making me more and more angry with ubuntu but bumbed out becuase I want to support open source. tryying really hard to like ubuntu becuase I admire the unit06:28
michael87y toolbar. But I want the windows to look just as nice as the bar itself and hopefully someday as translucent.06:28
michael87dr_willis, but until then I am tryying to find ones that are simular to 7 for windows borders at least for decorations. But all the good ones are outdated and don't support the new gnome shell. and all the ones that do essentually look the same to me06:30
dr_willismichael87:  i tend to use the defaults.. since my main hobby is helping on irc.. so i need to know what most people are using. I  find i spend a great deal of time helping FIX/Undo their customizations.06:30
dr_willisIm glad i havent seen anyone ask about that dangerous macbuntu-script in the last month. ;)06:31
sam113101is the xinitrc file used, though? I thought it was only used when you didn't have a DM06:31
dr_willissam113101:  im not sure any more these days. I thought it got replaced by .Xsession06:32
dr_willissam113101:  you could  try altering that /etc/bash.bashrc  file.  but that seems a little odd.06:32
alkaliv2SilvereX, Give this one a shot.  It might not have placed your aticonfig file properly.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1494597 post #306:32
dr_willissam113101:  its also possible you need to make a script for running the xmodemap command that waits about 10 sec. for the desktop to get fully loaded/ready.. seen that happen at times with other startup items.06:33
michael87dr_willis, well again that is a bummer. I saw linux as a world where I can have an os that would be even more intuitive and fun then 7. ubuntu holds so much promise to be this. I love the music system and unity bar. I'm sounding like a broken record. But the solid grey colors reminding me too much of old xp and want to change them band. Even mate sounds more tempting then this lol06:34
dr_willissam113101:  or you culd make a statup script that runs somthing like 'xterm -e xmodemap /path/to/xmodmapconfig'   and see if it actually runs06:34
sam113101yeah, I'm just going to do sleep 5 && xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmap if that's what it needs06:34
dr_willismichael87:  i dont even know what solid grey colors you mean.. i twiddle around with so many themes - i got all sorts of colors.06:35
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/mediterraneannight-gtk36-theme-pack.html06:35
dr_willishas 12 color variations06:35
leandroZelozelos??06:35
leandroZelozelos??06:36
michael87dr_willis, you just made me want to slap myself in the face. lol thank you06:36
michael87dr_willis, so maybe you can answer this one for me. is the power consumption on ubuntu more or less the windows 7 set at powersaving mode. I am considering wich is better for power management06:38
dr_willismichael87:  the hardware makers put more work into the win7 stuff.. so id bet on win706:39
CidaWhat about Win7?06:39
dr_willismichael87:  but ubuntu can use actual LESS resources..  and thus gain benifits.06:39
michael87dr_willis, hm I see. you mean of course for say lxde desktop? yes?06:40
dr_willisHowever.. lets face it.. the biggest batery drain on a laptop is normally the lcd/lights/hd spinning.. so if win7 can do all sorts of tweaks and cheats that are not documented for ubuntu devs to even know about win7 will be thebst for battery life06:40
dr_willislxde is about as ight as you can get for a full featured desktop06:40
dr_willisI rarely even mess with laptops these days. so i dont pay much attention to their battery lifes06:41
dr_williseven when i did use laptops.. a battery was never used for more then perhaps an hr or so till i plugged in again06:41
CidaI have a question, and I know it'll probably make me look rather stupid for not knowing, but what does the ' command do in the terminal?06:42
CidaI tried doing something with it. And like06:42
CidaNothing happened cx06:42
|nv|s|b|eflash is also hard on laptops06:42
|nv|s|b|ereal hard06:42
redtape-renegadeANYBODY: Anybody want to jump on skype and talk about Ubuntu ?06:42
dr_willisCida:  you mwan the single quote '   ? thats not a command06:43
poovizhirajanhi06:43
redtape-renegadehi06:43
poovizhirajan'hi06:43
theyboostingharro06:43
dr_willisCida:  the  BACKTICK     `   does somting special. ;)06:43
redtape-renegadeyou on skype ?06:43
redtape-renegadeanybody here on skype ?06:44
michael87dr_willis, I see. Reason I ask becuase my desktop is going to be my gaming and emulation machine. Wich unfortunately means its stayying windows. I like 7 alot and am angry how flat and basicly dead looking 8 is. again I like some eyecandy with my computer. and I figured since I mostly use my laptop for painting maybe it would be a good excuse to dive into the linux world more. but its tough tryying to find a decent alternative to windows.06:44
michael87Even considered zoran. Kde is a good one. but not perfect. again most of my favorite fuctions are with ubuntu. so I'm putting alot of my effort to pretty it up06:44
dr_willismichael87:  the desktop dosent really mater.. its about the apps used..06:45
dr_willisYou are worrying about the color of your hubcaps.. instead of the  job the truck is supposed to be doing.06:46
aeon-ltdalso depending on the specs, the extra free cup cycles and ram may be more important than flashier effects06:47
aeon-ltd*cpu06:47
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html   seems to be one of the top 'themes' out there.. but it sort of goes past the normal theme limits. :) has its own tweaker tools06:48
dr_willisOptions to customize Background color, Text color, Border color, Background opacity, Border opacity etc. for Panel, Menu and Dialogs06:48
michael87dr_willis, the job is easy enough. but making open source look and run nicer then then corperates os is a tough one. just in case microsoft gives their more power using customers the finger in lue to market a dumbed down os to a bunch of brain dead idiots06:48
michael87dr_willis, again much appriciated06:49
dr_willisonly themes i seem to use are from webupdates sites/guides06:49
dr_willisi got so many ive played with my theme lists are a total disaster06:49
dr_willisI mixx and match parts from differnt themes.. to get what i want.. then cant recreate it on a 2nd pc. ;P06:50
r0ugenodehello there06:50
sam113101ok, I REALLY can't get it to launch when the session starts, where's the best place to complain about it?06:50
michael87dr_willis, also I'm tryying to show linux off to uninitited. I gave linux to a few different people who are friends and family and got mostly positive feedback from them.06:50
aeon-ltdmichael87: simple isn't always dumbed down. besides easier to learn = more users. if anything this is better overall. i like command line, but really if it required no reading of man pages and wikis to do what i need and want i'd prefer that06:51
knoppiesaeon-ltd, I love man, because my momry sucks.06:51
knoppiesmemory06:51
dr_willissam113101:  if you want to file a bug report. theres the !bug factoid.. complaining gets you about much gain as sticking your... err... i better stop there...06:51
r0ugenodeheh06:52
sinfuzi0nAnyone listen to the Pauldotcom podcast?06:52
dr_willissam113101:  make a script that does the command, make a startup item that runs the script in a xterm so you can see when its launching.06:52
aeon-ltdsinfuzi0n: relevance to ubuntu?06:52
sam113101ok06:52
sinfuzi0nHe runs a pen testing company, and he was just talking about "labs" in his recent podcast06:53
sinfuzi0nLabs to do pen testing running Ubuntu06:53
sinfuzi0nVirtualization, etc, etc06:53
michael87aeon-ltd, this is true. but again I am not happy with the choise's microsoft is making with 8. and if they start messing up 7 via updates linux is my next option. I am happy we live in a world of choices with our software. especially if some could not afford a microsoft code with their machines.06:54
garyperrigoclear06:55
MrMist1Hi all06:56
* dr_willis waits for the massive gnashing of teeth and wailing of cries when Ubuntu goes the mir/qml route....06:56
SilvereXalkaliv2: That bug does sound similar to mine. I was previously using an nvidia card06:57
sam113101how do I open my script in xterm?06:57
dr_willissam113101:  xterm -e scriptname06:57
dr_willisput a 'read foo' at the end of the script or the term may open/close to fast to read anything06:58
sam113101xterm -e ~/xmodmap_launch.sh06:59
sam113101doesn't work06:59
sam113101ok06:59
alkaliv2SilvereX, Yea I completely stopped using ATI on linux after my X800.  Fglrx just became a complete pain to install06:59
sam113101xterm -e "bash ~/xmodmap_launch.sh"06:59
michael87dr_willis. ok dark Mediterranean theme is nice. I'm sticking with that for now. But I would like to find basic colors. Blue,red,green. depending on what mood I might be in that day.07:00
dr_willismake your script actually executable... :)07:00
sam113101ok07:01
dr_willismichael87:  i recall one that changed colors on time of day07:01
SilvereXalkaliv2: Gonna restart my system and continue with the instructions07:01
dr_willisbut im clening out all these themes ive installed over the last few months.. got to much theme clutter07:01
alkaliv2SilvereX, keep me posted, I'll be up a bit longer07:01
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crookedspeaking of themes, I have a bit of a problem where a certain theme ("Ambiance Blue") makes certain text backgrounds appear white07:03
crookedyet it works fine on my other computer07:03
MrMist1OK07:03
MrMist1So I've got this tiny problem... I need a newer version of a dev package (source code) then the on in Ubuntu repos..07:04
MrMist1Is there any way to search for alternate, newer versions using apt? Or should I just download the sourcecode?07:05
xanguamichael87:  i am currently using this kind of 'remake' http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Nouveau?content=15308407:05
dr_willisMrMist1:  the normal route is repos -> then look for a ppa -> then look for source07:05
sam113101it works07:06
sam113101and it also breaks redshift's startup07:06
sam113101for some unknown reason07:07
dr_willisno idea what redshift is..07:07
MrMist1dr_willis: Ehm.. how? I'm just using aptitude search now. You mean like editing /etc/aptp/sources.list?07:07
dr_willisMrMist1:  theres ppa search sites.07:07
dr_willis!ppa07:07
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:07
sam113101dr_willis: it gives a red color to your screen during the night so it's easier on the eye07:07
sam113101the default is wayyyyyyyyy too red, but once configured correctly it's great07:08
sam113101it does more or less the same thing as f.lux07:08
SilvereXsam113101: I was just about to mention f.lux07:08
dr_willisnever heard of either. ;)07:08
MrMist1dr_willis: Yeah... I know of PPA's. However, I was wondering if there are any official ppas for this? Aren't there different versions of the official ones as well?07:08
sam113101f.lux never worked for me, on linux07:09
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sam113101I use it on windows though07:09
sam113101but why does it happen07:09
dr_willisMrMist1:  im not sure the term official ppa - ever really applies. :) some  project may have their own 'official' ppa.. but its not going to be caonicals offical ppa. since its not ray by canoicaal.07:09
SilvereXIt works for me, but it's a bit iffy.07:10
dr_willissam113101:  give us details as to whats its doing.07:10
dr_willisstart it from the same script you are doing your xmodemap command. ;)07:10
sam113101I mean the script is working07:10
sam113101is it the fact that I don't call xmodmap directly or the fact that it's running inside xterm?07:11
dr_willisand look for error messages when it starts07:11
MrMist1dr_willis: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdf5/1.8.9-1~exp307:12
dr_willis!info hdf507:13
ubottuPackage hdf5 does not exist in quantal07:13
dr_willis!info raring hdf507:13
jacob__Hi i am having problems with skype and i have installed it and updated it, and whats happening is that when i am video chat it drops the call and i have great connection so how can i fix it07:13
ubottu'hdf5' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable07:13
dr_willis!info hdf5 raring07:14
ubottuPackage hdf5 does not exist in raring07:14
swati#swig07:14
MrMist1hehe... the word "raring" is an actual normal word in norwegian07:15
swati#swig-gsoc07:17
MrMist1dr_willis: "raring" would be translated to "the strange one"07:17
jacob__Hi i am having problems with skype and i have installed it and updated it, and whats happening is that when i am video chat it drops the call and i have great connection so how do i fix it?07:18
MrMist1dr_willis: So how would I go about installing this one on 12.04? I don't need it system-wide... just for compiling my own stuff07:22
MrMist1(and running it of course..)07:22
sam113101fuck this sh*t07:23
sam113101I'll complain all over the web07:23
sam113101they'll hear me07:23
crooked"fuck this sh*t" - lol07:24
crookedas if shit is the badderer word07:24
sam113101l*l07:24
sam113101haha didn't see it this way07:24
sam113101oops07:24
bazhang!language | sam113101 crooked07:24
ubottusam113101 crooked: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:24
SilvereXalkaliv2: It worked!07:29
alkaliv2SilvereX, Yea? And the games are performing correctly?07:29
SilvereXalkaliv2: Not sure. I'll go check07:30
SilvereXalkaliv2: CS:S runs! Not sure about the texture glitch in HoN but I'll check that some other time07:36
SilvereXalkaliv2: Thanks for the help! This problem has been troubling me for a couple of months now07:37
alkaliv2SilvereX, It was not a problem, I'm glad you got it sorted out.  Hopefully you don't have to do this again when 13.2 drops :D07:37
SilvereXalkaliv2: I think completely purging my system of anything containing "nvidia" did the trick07:39
noobie888Hi, ps aux| grep username only grep username that's under 8 characters, anything below will be shown as uid instead. is there anyway to grep the long username?07:39
alkaliv2SilvereX, Logically, I don't even know why that would be a factor.  I'm no programmer07:40
SilvereXalkaliv2: Anyway, I've got to go play some CS:S. It's been years since I last played!07:41
alkaliv2SilvereX, Lol not a problem, I'm calling it a night.  Have fun, later bro07:42
ntzrmtthihu777just a small bit of help; I wanna convert a few directories of .mid to .ogg; I had achieved this at one time with dir2ogg, but its not cooperating atm, anyone feel like giving me a hand?07:43
noobie888Hi, ps aux| grep username only grep username that's under 8 characters, anything below will be shown as uid instead. is there anyway to grep the long username?07:45
ntzrmtthihu777noobie888: ps aux | grep username | while read $usr; do ls /home/$usr*; done07:46
SwedeMikenoobie888: ps auxwwww might help07:46
pvh_sahi there, since i've upgraded to 12.10 my wireless frequently loses connection with the wireless AP. this is an intermittent problem, i'm wondering how to report it? ubuntu-bug wants a report with regards to a particular package, but this isn't a "package" bug07:48
aeon-ltdpvh_sa: drop back one kernel then see if it still happens07:49
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Guest25072is there a way to make mplayer spawn in the same terminal window where it is launched?07:51
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ntzrmtthihu777Guest25072: as in the window playing the stream inside the terminal itself?07:51
Guest25072ntzrmtthihu777: yes07:52
ntzrmtthihu777dont thinks so, but you never know.07:53
Guest25072okay, too bad. i run a tiling wm and its quite annoying with extra terminals. guess i'll have  to move it to another workspace instead07:54
pvh_saaeon-ltd, so i'm on 3.5.0-25 - do you suggest trying 3.5.0-23 or going back to 3.2.0-35 (i've got both - and also older 3.2.0 kernels - on this machine)?07:54
aeon-ltdpvh_sa: try both, but none older than a few updates07:55
salz212_hi, I want to find the files which are marked as deleted in system.. whats the command...?07:55
salz212_dume2fs is not helping i think.07:55
diverdudehow do i transfer files to server via nautilus on ssh when i dont have a password, only a .pem file?07:55
ntzrmtthihu777Guest25072: you may want to consider making a zenity script... you may be able to do it like that, if you are looking for a low-resource music player07:57
ntzrmtthihu777salz212_: you can always grep the partition, if its just simple files with text07:58
Guest25072ntzrmtthihu777: okay, ill check that out. Thanks!07:58
ferronicaAny one help me regarding WLAN Card Setup NetGear WG311v307:59
bazhangferronica, whats the chipset08:01
bazhangpastebin the output of lsusb ferronica08:01
bazhang!paste | ferronica08:02
ubottuferronica: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:02
ferronicabazhang, WG511v3 Netgear, chipset is Libertas manufactured by Marvell08:03
ntzrmtthihu777what is the default gnome screencapture program08:03
bazhangntzrmtthihu777, not sure, kazam is worth looking at though08:03
bazhangferronica, pastebin the output from lsusb please08:03
ferronicabazhang, its PCI card not usb08:04
bazhangferronica, then the output of lspci08:04
salz212_still couldn't help.. what I want to know is.... find the files that are marked as deleted in system...08:04
ferronicabaz08:04
ferronicabazhang, Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)08:05
ntzrmtthihu777erp, I mean the screenshot program08:05
bazhang!info scrot08:05
ubottuscrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-13 (quantal), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB08:05
ntzrmtthihu777bazhang: I know of scrot, its nice, but I need to know the default.08:06
ntzrmtthihu777nvm, found it08:06
ferronicabazhang, right now im using WIFI tethring via USB08:08
djbpythoneverything is full screen and i cant see my top menu bar. Dont know what i pressed. any ideas?08:08
helmut_hi08:08
djbpythoni had to alt+tab to open the side nav...08:08
dr_willisdjbpython:  F11 perhaps08:08
djbpythondr_willis, aha! thank you!08:08
ntzrmtthihu777djbpython: he's good at that.08:09
dr_willisits the same Fkey used by most every browser in windows and linux. i belive. ;)08:09
ntzrmtthihu777few other programs too08:10
theadminYeah but the fullscreen feature is kind of worthless in Unity, you maximize, you get fullscreen.08:10
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: any experience with the dir2ogg package?08:10
dr_willisntzrmtthihu777:  never heard of it08:10
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: what isnt worthless in unity?08:10
dr_willisfullscreening is differnt then maxamzieing the windows here08:11
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pvh_saaeon-ltd, thanks I'm trying that now, I'll see what happens08:11
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: cli tool to do exactly what it says, convert a dir of music 2 ogg. I used it once before, and I can't recall how.08:11
aeon-ltdpvh_sa: ok08:11
ferronicabazhang, http://pastebin.com/QwKj8cUK08:11
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ntzrmtthihu777!dir2ogg08:12
theadminntzrmtthihu777:        dir2ogg  [  options  ]  ( filename [filename2] ... || directory [directory2] ... || [cdrom-device] ... )08:12
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: yeah, I get all that, read the manpage too, but I seem to be stuck-out.08:13
gthhi everyone08:13
theadminntzrmtthihu777: What's the problem exactly?08:13
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: seems I cannot invoke the right options. I am in the dir, and I have tried just about everything. no change at all, no work done.08:14
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Well, if you want it to operate on the current directory, you could probably use "dir2ogg ." or "dir2ogg $PWD"08:14
ntzrmtthihu777nope, just tried both of those, both do nothing and print dir2ogg 0.11.8 (2009-08-04), converts audio files into ogg vorbis.08:15
dr_willistry the --help option? ;)08:18
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Works for me: dir2ogg . in a directory full with MP3s starts creating oggs.08:18
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: dahell, it does work on mp3 but not these .mid08:18
theadminntzrmtthihu777: .mid files aren't exactly music data in the common sense08:18
dr_willisyea..  You may need a midi playuer for that08:18
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: I was recommended it somewhere for .mid, yeah I get it, .mid is more like sheet music08:18
redtape-renegadeANYBODY: Anybody want to jump on skype and talk about Ubuntu ?08:18
dr_willisredtape-renegade:  not really.08:18
bazhang!ot | redtape-renegade08:18
ubotturedtape-renegade: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:18
sam113101rofl08:18
ntzrmtthihu777so, since that seems to be a big ole heap o' fail, can someone recommend a good way to batch convert .mid to .ogg, or barring that, .mid to something I can convert to .ogg?08:18
dr_willishttp://download.cnet.com/MIDI-To-WAV-Converter/3000-2170_4-10833627.html08:19
dr_willis;)08:19
dr_willishttp://www.ehow.com/how_6103697_convert-midi-wav-freeware.html08:20
ntzrmtthihu777erm, isnt cdnet more or less windows only?08:20
dr_willisyou dident really specify08:20
dr_willisall im doing is googling for 'midi to wav'08:20
ntzrmtthihu777well I am in #ubuntu after all ;)08:20
sunai need some help08:21
dr_willisand you are doing the very weird task of converting a midi to wav. ;)08:21
SeaXhello08:21
bazhangsuna, with what08:21
sunahello08:21
dr_willisthats like converting a .txt file to pdf ;)08:21
sunaok i want to create a virtal drive08:21
sunaso i can run my windows 708:21
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: is there a way to list the reccommeded packages for a package?08:21
bazhangsuna, try vbox08:21
theadminsuna: Install VirtualBox and it's easy from there on.08:21
ronaldscan I gide some applet from indicator plugin08:22
ronalds?08:22
ntzrmtthihu777suna: what they said.08:22
theadminsuna: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/virtualbox08:22
sunaok how do i install it08:22
sunai read all about it08:22
sunaand ive tryed installing it08:22
ntzrmtthihu777suna: sudo apt-get install virtualbox08:22
sunathanks08:22
bazhang!info virtualbox08:22
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 12449 kB, installed size 45771 kB08:22
dr_willisim not clear on the actual question. ;)08:22
ronaldscan't get rid of kde accesible icon, since second desktop is installed kde and awesome, and xfce08:22
SeaXwhat tools you guys use to recover data from a crashed drive ?08:23
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: well you know how when you use apt-get to install a package it, at times, lists recommended packages?08:23
ferronicabazhang, there??08:23
bazhang!undelete | SeaX08:24
ubottuSeaX: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel08:24
sunaok i did that08:24
theadminSeaX: First take an image with ddrescue and try to mount it normally, if that fails you could run Photorec on the image. But don't mess with the drive directly, it's going to make matters worse.08:24
sunabut i got this error08:24
sunaProcessing triggers for man-db ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ... Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ... Setting up libgsoap1 (2.8.4-2) ... Setting up python-central (0.6.17ubuntu2) ... Setting up virtualb08:24
FloodBot1suna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:24
bazhangSeaX, testdisk, photorec08:24
sunawait hold on08:24
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: I want to list the packages recommended for timidity, which is already installed, without having to uninstall/reinstall08:24
sunaok this is one part08:25
knoppiesthe ubuntu desktop livecd, is it supposed to have a symlink ubuntu which refers to itself? lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root     1 Feb 14 13:03 ubuntu -> .08:25
suna No suitable module for running kernel found                                                                          [fail]08:25
dr_willisi rarely use the more advanced features of apt. so not sure ntzrmtthihu77708:25
sunadoes that mean anything?08:25
theadminsuna: Install virtualbox-dkms as well08:25
sunak also by  sudo apt-get install08:26
theadminsuna: That's how you install anything in Ubuntu :P08:26
sunak08:26
pvh_sasuna: if the install worked, you can go 'sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' to have it build the kernel module08:26
theadminsuna: There's also the Software Center which makes the job easier...08:26
sunaalmost everything i donload from there is out of date08:27
theadminpvh_sa: One does not do that in Ubuntu, it will stop working after the next kernel update, instead one uses the virtualbox-dkms package which makes sure to keep the module up-to-date as well.08:27
sunathe reason i would like to do a virtal drive for windows 708:27
sunais i was trying too get skyrim to work08:27
pvh_satheadmin, gosh, i didn't know that. thanks, i've been doing the 'vboxdrv setup' thing for years08:27
sunai use my pc for gaming alot08:27
theadminsuna: You can't really play in Virtualbox.08:27
theadminsuna: You should dual-boot08:27
sunawell i dont have a flash drive08:27
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: ah nice. for your pleasure its apt-cache show package08:28
sunaor a cd that i can download my file from08:28
ntzrmtthihu777suna: or use playonlinux08:28
sunai did that08:28
sunaand had skyrim running08:28
sunabut08:28
sunait said my rendering was wrong08:28
ntzrmtthihu777suna: did you use one of their scripts, or did you manually install?08:28
theadminpvh_sa: Also init.d == sysvinit, not used in Ubuntu either.08:28
sunai am not sure08:28
pvh_satheadmin, uhm, loads of stuff is still sysvinit only08:29
sunabut like i never had a render problem with skyrim08:29
theadminpvh_sa: Well, true that, there is compatibility thankfully08:29
ntzrmtthihu777suna: try installing with one of their pre-made scripts, they usually have the "sweet spot" for the app all figured out.08:29
sunawhen i played it on windows08:29
gthisn't VMWare better than vbox for playing?08:29
dr_willisactually sysv stuff is handled by upstart. :) so..08:29
theadmingth: No virtualization solution is good for gaming.08:29
sunawell what should i do then08:29
sunai mean i like linux08:30
sunabut for some reason my game wont work with it08:30
sunai had it installed08:30
sunaand steam08:30
sunaand everything08:30
sunawas working fine08:30
FloodBot1suna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:30
sunaok sorry abou tthat flood08:30
gthaaah linux and games, sounds like a common lament :]08:30
ntzrmtthihu777suna: skyrim free on any level, so I can test it?08:30
knoppiesgth, thats changing thanks to Valve.08:30
ntzrmtthihu777gth: I have been rather successfull in that area08:30
usr13suna: You are using Enter key for punctuation.  Try periods and commas08:31
theadminThere's plenty of awesome Linux games, people just don't know of them08:31
ntzrmtthihu777true.08:31
sunayes  you can get skyrim free but i dont condone it unless you have paid for it first.08:31
theadminEh well all I need is Minecraft08:31
ntzrmtthihu777the other day I actually browsed the entire games section of software center, lotta nifty stuff.08:31
dr_willisMinecraftbuntu08:32
ntzrmtthihu777suna: I meant legally, I got out of the pirate game a while back.08:32
ntzrmtthihu777well, unless you count emulating very old games08:32
gthactually i'm new to ubuntu, and steam was one of the incentives08:33
ntzrmtthihu777gth: one year user08:34
theadminEh, I'm with Ubuntu since 8.10 more or less (also been jumping to other distros now and then), but I don't miss "gaming" at all. Anyway, we've gotten somewhat off topic, let's keep it to support, please.08:35
sunaok i just wrote this out08:36
sunaso like i installed playonlinux, and everything was working fine i installed steam worked fine then skyrim and te launcher worked. after i tryed to play it it said my graphics card could not support rendering3d or something like that. i got tired of messing with it and uninstalled linux. and thought a freind might have a windows copy but i desided id give it another shot so i reinstalled linux.08:36
ronaldssuna, if games are your relative pririoty sometimes, maybe dual boot08:37
ronaldsbut steam has cs, tf2 and other you might want to try08:37
dakotawulfywhen u write the boot loader to sda or sda1   kind was trying to install it to usb thumb drive and wanted it on usbthumb drive to boot.08:37
sunasee the problem im having is i never had a render problem when i was using windows but like my grapic drivers for linux are fewer then windows08:38
theadmindakotawulfy: That'd be more of sdb or something. "sda" is the first hard drive in the system, meaning the internal one.08:38
salz212_Hi I have been googling to find an appropriate command to extract linux OS image metadata.. any help from the community?08:38
dakotawulfywell was sdb or the sdb108:38
dakotawulfyyea08:38
theadmindakotawulfy: sdb, sdb1 is the first partition, only ever useful for chainloading.08:38
Jordan_Usalz212_: What type of "os image" and what metadata do you want?08:38
dakotawulfyok was trying to use usb thumb drive was able to do it if i unhooked the  hard drive08:39
salz212_okay I want to read a linux OS image and extract it's metadata  for ext408:39
ntzrmtthihu777report: I can say that dir2ogg works wonders on .mp3, far smaller and no discernable difference in quality to my ear.08:39
ntzrmtthihu777salz212_: wut.08:40
dakotawulfy wanted to know if it was possible to do it with out remvoing it with regular install08:40
Jordan_Usalz212_: You haven't answered either of my questions.08:40
theadmindakotawulfy: Sure should be, just select the USB stick in the hard drive selection screen08:40
salz212_OS is ubuntu...08:40
dakotawulfyok sorry08:41
sunaso like anyone got suggestions08:41
dakotawulfy it is an ubuntu install08:41
sunai would like to do a dual boot08:41
ntzrmtthihu777salz212_: we get that, but what the heck are you trying to do, make sense08:41
salz212_okay I just need to know the files which are marked as deleted ... I somehow searched it should bein OS image metadata08:41
sunabut like i said i cannot08:41
dakotawulfymy distro i am working on08:41
bazhangsuna, the installer can handle that08:41
sunawell can you help me fix it?08:41
bazhangsalz212_, what is the exact end goal here. please be very clear08:42
salz212_Read a linux OS image and extract it's metadata (ext4 file system) -- and it says it should have 1) list of type of distinct files 2) files marked as deleted 3) MAC times08:42
bazhangsuna, was this installed already? and via wubi?08:42
ntzrmtthihu777bazhang: he deleted something he regrets, I think.08:42
dakotawulfy theadmin so pick sdb1 for boot loader???08:42
theadmindakotawulfy: sdb, not sdb 108:42
sunawell steam was and so was skyrim i installed them using playonlinux08:43
dakotawulfyok that did not work  when i tryed it08:43
bazhangsalz212_, yes, why Exactly do you want to do that. Please be very clear08:43
salz212_I need to find the info.. thats it...not going to do any thing.. just need to display/print it..08:43
bazhangsalz212_, what info08:44
sunano ntzmtthihu77 i would like to get it installed on here08:44
salz212_1) list of type of distinct files 2) files marked as deleted 3) MAC times08:44
sunawere steam is connected to it becouse some mods reguire it08:44
sunabut see i was just going too do a virtal drive so that it was easyer all around becouse i couldnt get the render thing to fix08:45
salz212_does it make sense to you or need more info?08:46
auronandacesuna: if you are planning on gaming inside vbox you might be disappointed08:46
sunawell i cant dual boot08:46
ntzrmtthihu777suna: what he said. only games that worked well in a vbox for me were old emulated roms.08:46
auronandacesuna: i don't see why not08:46
bazhangsalz212_, why do you want that info, and what is 3) MAC times08:46
ntzrmtthihu777suna: why cant you?08:46
sunabecouse i dont have a cd or usb stick and dont have the money to get it08:46
sunaunless i can find a way to mount a .iso image and install it with that08:47
sunasome how08:47
salz212_MAC times are pieces of file system metadata which record when certain events pertaining to a computer file occurred most recently.08:47
bazhangborrow a cd or usb stick then suna08:47
sunai also cant do that08:47
sunaor i would08:48
sunai live by myself08:48
sunaand i dont like to get out08:48
sunaalot unless i need food or cleaning supplys and what not08:48
bazhangsuna, sure you can. at any rate dualbooting is the answer to gaming at this point08:48
auronandacesuna: ebay to the rescue, really cd-r's and usb sticks are dirt cheap08:48
sunai get paid once a month08:48
sunaand that money is gone08:48
sunai had to pay rent08:49
sunathen buy a new hard drive08:49
sunafor this computer im trying to fix08:49
dr_willisgot some 32gb usb for under $18 today08:49
sunaand other things i dont even have 1dollar left on it08:49
sunai live on ssi08:49
dr_willissuna:  you can setup grub2 to boot an iso file. or use vbox and try to install to a real physcal drive08:49
sunai have the doanload i need08:50
sunato install windows 708:50
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: the vbox thing wont work, and I think suna is talking about a windows iso08:50
dr_willisto install windows? time to ask in #windows08:50
sunayes i was talking abou that08:50
bazhangsuna, this is ab out windows?08:50
kojulthere's a #windows?08:50
sunano08:50
* dr_willis thinks its time to restate the question08:51
auronandacesuna: let me get this straight: you are installing win7 in vbox inside a wubi install?08:51
bazhangkojul, its ##windows08:51
sunasorry im not good at explaining sutff08:51
sunatime to restart the question ok,08:51
bazhangsuna do it all on ONE line this time08:51
kojulcan grub mount an iso on boot?08:52
dr_willisgrub2 2 can boot an iso file08:52
dr_willisIF the iso file is setup right08:52
dr_willisand i doubt windows7 uis08:52
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: I concur.08:52
ntzrmtthihu777kojul: yes, you can boot straight from an iso on hdd using a specially made grub menu08:53
sunai wanted to install windows 7 in vbox at first becouse i was tired of messing with trying to fix my render3d error for skyrim when i had no problem with it in windows. but if i can fix it without doing that that would be awsome i like ubuntu but i use my pc mostly for gaming and watching videos so thats why i was going too install it with vbox becouse ubuntu doesnt seem to have any drivers to fix that rendering problem for skyrim for my 08:54
sunanever had a problem with it08:55
dr_williswow.. 4% question.. 96% illrevant info. ;)08:55
ntzrmtthihu777suna: what kind of machine is it?08:55
dr_willisGameing in Vbox - is going to be poor.08:55
sunasorry about that dr im not good at explaining stuff08:56
auronandacesuna: it seems rather silly to me to install win7 in vbox when you are running a wubi install (you already have windows natively on the machine)08:56
dr_willisbest would be to find an actual fix for youw windows system issues08:56
ntzrmtthihu777auronandace: os-ception 0_008:56
marcs1989Is there a teaser video advertising how awesome gimp is somewhere? I'm trying to demonstrate Linux' awesomeness to a frustrated Windows 8 user.08:56
sunaits a gateway nv59 with a i5 intel proccesor and standard intel grapics card08:57
dr_willisor just try running skyrim in wine. even then - i bet it will be poor.08:57
theadminA VM inside a VM inside a VM08:57
theadminmarcs1989: That's best done with a LiveCD :P08:57
bazhangmarcs1989, try #gimp08:57
l0tbetvmception08:57
ntzrmtthihu777marcs1989: show him the gnome menu. I bet he misses his start button08:57
marcs1989theadmin: If only I was physically with them!08:57
theadminmarcs1989: Well, nothing stops you from sending a download link to them.08:57
dr_willismarcs1989:  i tend to just to impress them by using linux as they watch... and wonder why i dont need to defrag. or av scan.. or how i can install it to 10 pcs for free...08:57
sunadr i was using wine and playonlinux the first time when trying too play skyrim on my unbuntu computer08:58
kojulgnome? what's that ? ;)08:58
dr_willis!gnomr08:58
dr_willis!gnome08:58
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10 To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.08:58
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: he was jokin, see da wink08:58
theadminntzrmtthihu777: To heck with Gnome. Classic environment = Xfce.08:58
dr_willisLubuntu!  C64 Geos!08:58
ntzrmtthihu777kojul: I still have gnome on my precise.08:58
vamp774Why not just get Skyrim for a console then and keep ubuntu on your PC.  Running it with wine will be poor08:58
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: I rather like my gnome08:58
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Well, that's your own choice, but it's no longer the "classic" environment Windows people are used to.08:59
sunabecouse i dont have 250d for a tv and 40dollars for skyrim and then 250d for the xbox08:59
marcs1989theadmin ntzrtthihu777: They just want to make it look less like a tablet.08:59
kojulntzrmtthihu777: I haven't run gnome for 8 years. So I won't talk smack about it, but I'm just a console whore.08:59
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: and I gave [l|x]ubuntu both a try08:59
noobie888is there an or in an if statement for bash script?08:59
ntzrmtthihu777noobie888: yup08:59
vamp774i hear you.  gaming isnt cheap :P09:00
theadminnoobie888:"an or in an if"... wut09:00
ntzrmtthihu777if then else fi09:00
sunahaving a console in my opinion isnt worth having anymore09:00
sunayou have to buy the tv09:00
sunathen you have to buy the console09:00
bazhang!ot | suna09:00
ubottusuna: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:00
kojullast guy i ran in linux was DWM, and before that it was enlightenment 16.09:00
ntzrmtthihu777suna: I feel the same, but watch it, FloodBot1 will getcha09:00
kojulGUI09:00
noobie888i want to do an if x= or y =0 , bash restartscript09:00
noobie8882 values where each of one returns 009:00
antubiskuthello09:00
sunaok sorry i just want to install skyrim on ubuntu09:01
sunawith it connected to steam. if i cannont then i guess ubuntu isnt for me yet09:01
ntzrmtthihu777noobie888: if [[ "$x" == 0 || "$y" == 0 ]]09:01
ronaldskojul nice entartainment in terminal right>09:01
theadminnoobie888: Ah, easy enough: if test $x -eq 0 -o $y -eq 0 ; then bash restartscript ; fi09:01
dr_willis!appdb | suna09:01
ubottusuna: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help09:01
dr_willissuna:  may be worth checking if skyrim even works in wine.09:02
sunai had wine installed and had skryim installed09:02
ntzrmtthihu777suna: pm me if you like, I'm getting to be pretty handy with wine stuff.09:02
kojulronalds: I'm also an apple whore for my laptops, and I haven't had a desktop in 3 years. But all my servers are either ubuntu or gentoo.09:02
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Um, the "test" binary uses "=" to check for equality, not ==09:02
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: look again, I did not use [ but [[09:02
theadminOh, what's that do?09:02
ronaldskojul, cause apple has anything more then ubuntu can do..09:03
dr_willisIncludeing the price tag09:03
theadminntzrmtthihu777: In zsh it just gives me "bad pattern"09:03
vamp774suna: why not dual boot?09:03
antubiskuti got 1 problem..b4 this im using windows and i dont hav any problem connecting my note 2 to my pc via USB...but for my lappy im using ubuntu 12.10 32bit and im having this issue (unable to mount samsung_android)..sorry im kinda new on linux so dont know much..been searcing on uncle google but cant find the solution...tq..09:03
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: makes things a bit simpler. if $y was empty it would ruin [ with unary operator expected09:03
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: and I am speaking bash not zsh09:04
dr_willisantubiskut:  for  tranfering files to/from an android phone - i find it very hard to beat  the 'Airdroid' program - I  rarely bother connecting to the pc via USB cable.09:04
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Oh, never mind, it works in an if statement... Some crazy syntax thing.09:04
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: yeah, its nifty09:04
kojulronalds: Well, it does. Because it can do anything that Ubuntu can do, and then it does all the crap an apple can do.09:04
AlexQUbuntu 10.04 LTS, touchpad stopped working with no reason. External USB mouse works cool. Tried touchpad switch (Fn + F7), displays messages, doesn't help. How to diagnose?09:04
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ#BashFAQ.2BAC8-031.What_is_the_difference_between_test.2C_.5B_and_.5B.5B_.3F09:04
dr_willisantubiskut:  and the core of the issue is mounting of mtp devices.   which  is still a bit of a work in progress in ubuntu09:05
bazhangantubiskut, gmtp may work as well09:05
ntzrmtthihu777!EOL | AlexQ09:05
ubottuAlexQ: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades09:05
theadminTo heck with bash, for anything more or less complicated I'll write a Python script. Or a Perl script.09:05
AlexQntzrmtthihu777: It's not Aprit yet09:05
bazhangntzrmtthihu777, 10.04 is not eol09:05
theadminntzrmtthihu777: 10.04 is not eol09:05
kojulto heck with bash, anyway, zsh ftw.09:05
dr_willis!info fish09:05
ntzrmtthihu777AlexQ: soon to be, bay as well jump ship09:05
ubottufish (source: fish): friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.23.1+20120106.git8b407a3-1 (quantal), package size 729 kB, installed size 2423 kB09:05
SilvereXHow would I set pulseaudio enable-remixing to yes?09:06
dr_willisno one ever seems to use the fish shell.09:06
antubiskutowhh...i see...so the only solution is using airdroid..09:06
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: I know of it.09:06
SilvereXmy mic doesn't work in steam games but works everywhere else, any apparently it's fixed by setting enable-remixing to yes09:06
bazhangantubiskut, or gmtp09:06
theadmindr_willis: It's fairly uncomfortable because it dumps commonly acknowledged syntax (e.g. "var=value") for some more awkward one (in that case, "set var value")09:06
dr_willistheadmin:  it does a lot of weirdness.. sadly09:07
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: you for real? that makes me shudder09:07
dr_willisi know some begeinners that tried it and loved it over bash. :) i dont use it here.09:07
theadminntzrmtthihu777: About what?09:07
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: the fish set var value syntax09:07
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Yeah09:07
antubiskutgmtp??sorry im kinda new on linux so where i can get those??09:08
dr_willisthats most likely the least of fish's quirks09:08
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: that, my friend, sucks.09:08
six2hello, hows it goin folks?09:08
theadminantubiskut: In Ubuntu, one uses the Software Center to get any app.09:08
theadminantubiskut: You can also use the Terminal: sudo apt-get install gmtp09:09
dr_willisantubiskut:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites had some articals on mounting/accessing newer android phones on ubuntu.  worth a read to learn whats going on underneeth.09:09
six2or 'apt-get install app'09:09
dr_willis!info gmtp09:09
ubottugmtp (source: gmtp): simple MP3 player client for MTP based devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1 (quantal), package size 117 kB, installed size 394 kB09:09
six2nm09:09
dr_willishmm.  was that what he was asking about? thoght he was acessing a note209:09
antubiskuttq...and 1 more thing..where can i learn all sudo tingy command??i would like to learn more on terminal command..09:10
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dr_willisantubiskut:  10000's of bash tutorial sites out there.09:10
megdanovHello, i'm having trouble with a driver for my sound missing. Anyone can help ?09:10
dr_willis!bash | antubiskut09:10
ubottuantubiskut: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:10
Deathliremegdanov : what kind of sound card do you have?09:11
SilvereXHow do I set enable-remixing to yes in pulseaudio?09:11
antubiskuttq..09:11
test1hello09:12
megdanovThe thing is my laptop has 2 fronts and a mini subwoofer at the bottom(Qosmio X770) . The fronts work, but sub not09:12
AlexQntzrmtthihu777: Don't think upgrade would fix it. xinput --list --long returns only A4 Tech mouse, and on the end, not in Virtual pointer category, there is09:13
AlexQ"touchpad      id=6[floating slave]"09:13
SilvereXnvm09:15
AlexQxinput --test touchpad receives events when I move my finger over the touchpad09:17
ntzrmtthihu777AlexQ: but in any case soon you won't be able to come bug knowledgable fellows like theadmin and dr_willis about this, so may as well do it ;)09:17
test1das anyone know the password for ubuntu 12.10 live usb thing09:17
DeathlireBeen lookin up the 770. it doesn't seem to have a very appropriate detail on its sound other than it is a harmon/kardon ...09:17
theadmintest1: The Ubuntu livecds/usbs don't have a password set. You're not using Ubuntu if you're asked for one. Well, or there was a problem when burning the CD/USB. Might be best to recreate it.09:17
DeathlireNot seeing a chipset anywhere..so I need more details megdanov09:17
ntzrmtthihu777test1: there is no password09:17
megdanovi can give you my Alsa information ?09:17
ntzrmtthihu777test1: why would you need the password, trying to issue sudo?09:18
Deathliremegdanov : how about run lsusb in console09:18
theadminmegdanov: If it's more than 1 line, use http://paste.ubuntu.com , other than that sure.09:18
theadminntzrmtthihu777: "sudo" on the livecd works without a password, too.09:18
Deathlireor wait..my brains warped lol..forget i said usb09:19
AlexQtheadmin: dr_willis: xinput --test touchpad returns all moves and all button click with no problem09:19
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: yeah, I was gonna tell him that.09:19
theadminAlexQ: Uhh, sorry, what's your problem again?09:19
AlexQAlexQ: My touchpad stopped working09:20
Deathlirehave to excuse me, I don't run ubuntu lately, just a pure debian you could say. but all the same.09:20
AlexQtheadmin: My touchpad stopped working09:20
theadminAlexQ: ...In my opinion that's a good thing, I wish I could disable mine :/09:20
megdanovDeathlire, it's ok. , thank you anyway09:21
theadminAlexQ: Anyway, check the mouse settings to see if it's disabled there09:21
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test1thank you for good messages09:21
AlexQtheadmin: But I think that there is something wrong in xinput --list --long http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601355/09:22
AlexQlook down, at the ~ touchpad09:23
AlexQguess it shouldn't be "floating slave"09:23
AlexQthe funny thing is that it returns crazy values of motion a[0] and constant values of a[1] in xinput --test09:25
AlexQprobably that's because it is not set as a pointer and the mouse events aren't interpreted properly. Where can I set my touchpad as "slave pointer" rather than "floating slave"?09:27
Deathliresorry I couldn't be of any help megdanov, but you should look up the actual chipset your integrated soundcard has..I'm sure ppl can help you alot more with that info.09:28
zetheroodid Ubuntu 11.10 come with grub2 ?09:31
theadminzetheroo: Grub2 is the default since Karmic, being 9.1009:31
zetheroook nice - thanks09:32
AlexQtheadmin: How can I attach my "touchpad" into Virtual core pointer as a slave pointer, instead of being floating slave in X.org?09:32
theadminAlexQ: I have no idea what any of those even mean, eh.09:32
AlexQtheadmin: X device states, I can't find how can I control them. Where are X input device settings?09:33
theadminAlexQ: I'd suppose in xorg.conf (or xorg.conf.d)09:34
AlexQAlexQ: There is synaptics set properly I guess09:38
AlexQtheadmin: I'll try to reinstall the synaptics driver09:39
knoppiesHi, I am trying to do a PXE boot xubuntu12.04.2 install using a local HTTP mount of the .iso file. I've reached a point where it says "No Kernal Modules where found" and then says there is probably a kernal mismatch between the version of the PXE boot (an ubuntu one) and the local xubuntu archive09:39
knoppiesDoes anybody have any ideas how i can get around this?09:40
liminalhello09:40
AlexQtheadmin: Maybe when I upgraded Chrome the synaptics package was upgraded and that caused problems? I'll remove it completely, then reboot, then install it again and then reboot.09:41
theadminAlexQ: Well, you can sure try, but it obviously has nothing to do with Chrome09:41
AlexQtheadmin: What is "Remove completely" in Synaptic package manager; should I use that option on this pkg?09:42
AlexQOr just simply Remove?09:42
theadminAlexQ: "Remove completely" maps to apt-get purge, i.e. it removes the configuration files as well09:42
knoppiesAlexQ, remove completely (including the config files) is purge.09:42
theadminAlexQ: MIght be best to use that in this case09:42
AlexQso it would be better09:42
AlexQbut when I select it and "Apply", there is list "To be removed: xserver-xorg-input-all"09:43
AlexQdoesn't look safe at all09:43
knoppiesAlexQ, Im sure that is just a meta package.09:44
AlexQok, so proceed09:44
AlexQreboot & reinstall of that package, thanks, hope will help. Bye09:45
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phozon_Hi all09:46
user82hello. does the ubuntu mac image start on a normal intel pc?09:50
phozon_normally09:52
user82maybe the boot stick is messed up then... thanks phozon_09:53
phozon_get norm image09:54
ryorky1whenever I restart my system, my swap files are turned off.  What can I do to make sure they are always on?09:58
ryorky1I'm running dual boot win 7 and ubuntu 12.04 and have 13 gigs of swap files09:59
ryorky1rather swap partition09:59
{mikey}ryorky1, you could make sure the uuid is correct in your  /etc/fstab10:01
{mikey}and come to that that you have a swap entry in fstb10:01
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{mikey}fstab10:01
sunadoes anyone here use steam?10:01
sunafor gaming10:02
Ben64!anyone | suna10:02
ubottusuna: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:02
ryorky1{mikey}:  I'm pretty sure it is:  here is what's in my fstab file:10:02
ryorky1# /etc/fstab: static file system information.10:02
ryorky1#10:02
ryorky1# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a10:02
ryorky1# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices10:02
ryorky1# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).10:02
FloodBot1ryorky1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:02
sunai don tknow what ubottu ment but10:02
Ben64suna: it means "does anyone..." type questions don't really help anything10:03
sunai was asking that ben becouse i dont want too ask my question like i have many times before and no one have a clue10:04
Ben64suna: it only takes a few seconds to type a question. you won't know who can answer it until you ask it10:04
sunaanways onwards with my question i wish to install a game on my desktop example skyrim but some of the mods recuire it being linked to steam do i have to install it using steam or could i install it on my desktop then link it to steam some how10:05
Ben64oh you're talking about steam on wine10:06
ryorky1{mikey}:  here is the paste of my code:  http://pastie.org/6439399  let me know if you see anything that looks off10:06
sunaand ben true but you know how many times ive asked this same qustion it gets old when you have 100 people in a chat that cant andswer any of my questions10:06
Ben64theres actually 169310:06
Ben64much more than 100 :)10:06
knoppiesBen64, and how many of those are idling?10:06
Ben64impossible to know10:07
sunaok i dont want to start some flame war all i want is to get skyrim installed on my computer10:07
sunaive been trying to get this done for like 5 days10:07
Ben64suna: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2474910:07
blackjack69what is skyrim??10:07
sunaima about to say f it and find a way  to get windows again ben i have already tryed that10:08
{mikey}ryorky1, check the uuid of the last line against 'ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l'10:08
sunai had wine and wine tricks installed tryed it that way10:08
Ben64suna: you might want to try #winehq then10:10
sunathen i uninstalled that and tryed it with playonlinux10:10
sunai think ima just go to bed and get windows tommarrow its 3:09 here10:10
bazhangsuna, you should take this to #winehq , thats where it belongs10:10
sunatrue10:10
sunabut that channel no one andswers10:10
bazhangso be patient10:10
Ben64the appdb has a lot of info, and its rated gold. it can't be that hard to get working10:10
{mikey}suna can't imagine skyrim runs well under wine anyway.10:10
sunai have asked this same question in that channel and alot more and everyone seems to be idleing and bazhang i did wait for 2hours on the first 310:10
Ben64{mikey}: from the appdb - "With an NVidia GTX570, i5 2500k@4GHz, and 16GB RAM as a test system, this game runs smoother then when I was on Windows 7."10:10
bazhangsuna, well thats where it belongs. wait as long as it takes.10:11
sunaok then i guess that  andswers my question10:11
sunaima hit to bed10:11
sunaand hopfully i can get ahold of a family freind or something to get me a copy of windows10:11
{mikey}Ben64, the skyrim / oblivion engine is junky though, I got 70% through oblivion under wine which was gold rated awell before realising minor critical events were miss firing10:12
sunai shouldnt have to reaserch stuff then when i need help have too jump thought 10 thousand loops to get a andswer when in windows all i have to do is click install on steam then install skyrim10:12
bazhang!ot | suna10:13
ubottusuna: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:13
sunathen play it10:13
bazhangsuna, thats enough10:13
{mikey}suna, in windows you *cannot* install a game for another os10:13
sunawhat have a done wrong baz all ive wanted to do is install a game ive asked at least 2k people how to do that on ubuntu and only 1 could help me install it10:14
sunaand after that i got a render error10:14
{mikey}suna, if that's what you want wait for them to release it under steam for linux, although I would hold my breath10:14
ikoniasuna: I'll make it clear for you10:14
ikoniasuna: 1.) windows games are not supported in linux - they may/may not work at random times with software such as wine10:15
bazhangsuna, lets move on.  #winehq is what is needed. this is NOT the complaints channel10:15
ikoniasuna: 2.) ubuntu doesn't make wine - or make games work/fail with wine10:15
ikoniasuna: 3.) if you are having problems with wine not working with a game - #winehq is the channel that needs to help you10:15
Ben64suna: theres like 70+ pages of text on the appdb about it. start reading10:15
sunadont worry about it ikonia thats what im saying and bazhang this is why you dont get new users of ubuntu or linux all together i bid yall goodday10:15
ikoniasuna: 4.) if you are unwilling to even read if your game is in a supported status on the wine web site - there is no point discussing anything10:16
ikoniasuna: bye10:16
{mikey}suna, LOL10:16
Ben64psst, the ban is not on the ip address, its on the hostname10:17
ikoniaBen64: it's fine it's webchat so he's muted10:17
ikoniathat will do10:17
xroHi, i'm looking for the best way to do a media server with ubuntu.... What do you recommand?10:18
Ben64xro: media server for....?10:18
Shirakawasunaxro: Is this media server serving up media via the network, or hooked up to a TV/projector?10:18
xroBen64, movies... dlna, upnp, download torrents and so on10:19
Ben64xro: i meant what will be playing the media10:19
one_year_lovehello10:20
xroBen64, an old laptop for the server,  a raspberry  and a samsung tv as clients10:20
Guest70638Hello10:20
Shirakawasunaxro: Does that mean it's all network? I still can't tell.10:20
Ben64xro: well i'm not sure about the tv, but the raspberry pi can do just about anything. I use samba for mine10:20
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB10:20
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how10:21
xroYes, all through my LAN10:21
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how10:21
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how10:21
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how10:21
FloodBot1Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:21
Guest70638I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how10:21
Ben64jesus10:21
ikoniawhat happened there10:21
ikoniajust a flood10:21
Ben64he must write a raw image blah blah and doesn't blah10:22
ikoniaGuest70638: hang on for a moment please.10:22
xroBen64, he TV use dlna...10:22
FloodBot1Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:22
ikoniaGuest70638: that is unacceptable - stop for a minute10:22
ikoniaplease10:22
zyngawowhello, can anyone help m? I've got an ssd and an hdd, and I've installed win7 on half of my ssd. How can I tell ubuntu to install itself on the rest of the ssd instead of the HDD?10:22
Ben64xro: mediatomb maybe?10:22
ikoniaGuest70638: please hold on a moment10:22
{mikey}all work and no play makes <Guest70638> a dull boy10:23
ikonia{mikey}: that's not helpful10:23
Ben64!info mediatomb10:23
ubottumediatomb (source: mediatomb): UPnP MediaServer (main package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-0ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 8 kB, installed size 77 kB10:23
xroBen64, mediatomb is a good solution? there are 10 dlna solutions....10:23
Ben64cool, it still exists10:23
ikoniaGuest70638: last time - that is unacceptable, do not talk to people like that again10:23
Ben64xro: i used to use it for streaming to a ps310:23
Ben64ikonia: am i missing something? he hasn't said anything for 3 minutes10:24
Shirakawasunathere are a bajillion network media server frameworks out there, xro. For the most basic things, samba is nice. But you probably want something snazzier. Something like mediatomb or Plex10:24
ikoniaBen64: missed a line10:24
Shirakawasunaand for the pi hooked up to the TV, xbmc will be happy to deal with either samba or upnp10:24
FloodBot1Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:25
xroBen64, Shirakawasuna, ok about that (i have xbmc on my pi).... And what about the download function. I know there are some soft that automatically start download, rename file, classify them and so on...10:26
Shirakawasunaxro: I don't really know, sorry10:26
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Ben64yeah i'm not sure either. i record stuff with mythtv, and use ffmpeg manually to change to a pi-happy format10:27
Shirakawasunathere's probably on-the-fly transcoding options... in theory ;)10:28
xroBen64, my pi read mkv, avi and so on...10:28
knoppiesIf I use the PXE netboot installer (which states 12.04.1) and then try install from a local 12.04.2 iso served over HTTP, will I have any issues? (Like kernal mismatch)10:29
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bekksknoppies: Sure. Just run sudo apt.-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade10:29
ikoniaknoppies: there will be differences, why not just copy over the pxe files to the pxe server to they are in sync10:29
Guest59875can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).10:30
Guest59875it is not allowing me to install updates10:30
knoppiesikonia, you mean the pxe files from the 12.04.2 iso? Are they even on there?10:30
bekksGuest59875: How do you try to install the updates?10:30
ikoniaknoppies: should be10:30
Guest59875can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).10:31
ronaldshow to change startup options for openbox settup10:31
bekksGuest59875: How do you try to install the updates?10:31
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starbuck33when comes a new LTS version of ubuntu?10:32
harry_can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).10:33
knoppiesikonia, I dont see it, is it only in the alternate iso?10:33
jribharry_: pastebin what your actual input and output are10:33
ikoniaknoppies: I would expect it to be on the normal one too10:33
ikoniaknoppies: or you could be sneaky and just grab those files off the web10:33
knoppiesikonia, do you know which folder its under? find cant even find it.10:33
ikoniaknoppies: not got a CD here to check, sorry10:33
knoppiesikonia, I got some files off the web already, but they state they are for the 12.04.1 and I'm worried that it will clash with the 12.04.2 kernel.10:34
hosseinI am trying to install a package10:35
ikoniaknoppies: I wouldn't worry about a clash as the pxe is just to boot it onto the network10:35
hosseinbut I get this error10:35
hosseinUnable to locate the mypackage package10:35
ikoniahossein: what is the package name10:35
hosseinrosdep10:35
ikonia!info rosdep10:35
ubottuPackage rosdep does not exist in quantal10:35
ikoniahossein: that package name is not in the default ubuntu repos10:36
knoppiesikonia, yea I know, but I just tried to do ubuntu to a xubuntu image and it states "No kernel modules were found. This is probably due to the mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive."10:36
hosseinso what should I do10:36
hossein:)10:36
ikoniahossein: find that package elsewhere or get the right package name10:36
ikoniaknoppies: that's quite surprising as the base kernel version is the same10:36
ikoniaknoppies: I'd try it to ubuntu->ubuntu10:37
ikoniaknoppies: just see what happens,10:37
hosseinI am trying to install it using this code: "svn co http://alufr-ros-pkg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/rgbdslam_freiburg"10:37
davis776hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png10:37
ikoniahossein: yeah, apt-get won't work with source code10:37
knoppiesikonia, thats what I thought. That is what Im trying to do now, but Im afraid that if I download a 12.04.2 disk then it will fail, and I will have to download a 12.04.1 disk. I pay for my data. Would rather avoid it if I cant.10:37
hosseinso how can I install it?10:37
ikoniahossein: you'll need to compile it, there are normally README and INSTALL text files in it10:38
hosseinit downloads the package but cannot locate it!10:38
ikoniaknoppies: a reasonable concern, I'd be surprised if it didn't work as the pxe boot is just enough to boot it10:38
ikoniahossein: it's not a package, - it's source code10:38
hosseinow10:39
hosseincan you please tell me what is different10:39
hosseinor give me a link to go and read10:39
ikoniahossein: a package is pre-compiled and ready to run, source code needs to be compiled into binaries to be able to run10:40
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hosseinwow10:40
hosseingreat10:40
harry_can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).10:40
ikoniahossein: if you are at this level of knowledge, I'd suggest a.) reading up on source code b.) trying to find a pre-compiled package c.) make a request on launchpad.net for a package to be built10:40
harry_and update dialouge box closes10:40
tobiahi10:40
knoppiesthank you ikonia10:41
tobiazou ai am italian10:41
hosseinok thanks alot10:41
megdanovI have toshiba qosmio x770 laptop. Can't get the subwoofer to work . No driver. Can any1 help me?10:41
harry_and update dialouge box closes: can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).10:41
dr_willisharry_:  start with the command line and try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin any error messages for the channel to see.10:42
GeorgyGuys, if anyone can help, i have the same problem as here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043 but there is no solution given in this topic, so if anyone has an idea ?10:42
dr_willisGeorgy:  check askubuntu.com yet?10:42
harry_ok ill try that10:43
dr_willisand summarize the issue a little bit :) most people wont go to every URL posted just to read about a problem they may know nothing about10:43
harry_how do i do the paste bin procedure?10:44
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harry_i am very new, to this interface, i just got sick of windows 810:44
marcs1989victory!10:44
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kristenbb_hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?10:51
k1lkristenbb_: make sure  that the headers of your kernel version are installed10:51
k1l(they are needed for the video driver)10:52
kristenbb_what does that mean?10:52
k1lkristenbb_: show a "uname -a " please10:52
Ben64sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)10:52
dr_willisif your video drivers are not supporting the 3d desktop.  unity will default down to the 2d version10:53
kristenbb_k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:53
k1lah, Ben64 got the matching installing command10:53
Ben64k1l: works on every kernel :)10:53
Ben64or in this instance, could just do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"10:54
blackjack69i need to triple boot my system with windows xp, windows 8 and ubuntu.. i have two hard disks .. 1st hd dual boots windows xp and win 8 .. the 2nd hd has my data.. on whch hd should i install ubuntu now.. given that i dont want to mess up my working environment..10:57
GeorgyBuy new h10:58
Georgyhd (:10:58
FerkSweHey, I'm having some odd problems with my keyboard settings. I set it to swedish over and over again, but it keeps reverting to american.10:58
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davis776hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png10:58
blackjack69cant buy new hd.. no money10:58
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_cronus_Georgy, does the memory test option work?11:00
dr_willisblackjack69:  backup your data drive. and install it  there..11:00
FerkSweHah! You're still here Georgy! Still not working for you?11:00
dr_willisblackjack69:  you can even put grub on that data drive so you boot it instead.. leaveing the windows drives untouched11:01
blackjack69data drive has lots of empty space..i will shrink it and crate a new partition...11:01
blackjack69grub wont affect my existing setup..ie the windows 8 and xp dual boot on the other drive??11:02
bekksblackjack69: There is no guarantuee.11:02
blackjack69okay11:02
bekksblackjack69: You really should have a backup before chaning something at your partitioning scheme.11:03
blackjack69how are you mentioning me BTW??11:03
dr_willis!tab11:03
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:03
blackjack69i am new to IRC11:03
FerkSweblackjack69: Yeah... Backups are a Very good idea...11:03
dr_willisdata not backed up - is data thats on borrowed time11:03
blackjack69okay i will backup everything.. it's gonna take a long time :(11:04
bekksblackjack69: You'll take more time to restore it after loosing it :)11:04
Sjajne_NitiFerkSwe, speaking of backups, is it safe to remove backup monitor from start up apps?11:04
bekksSjajne_Niti: Yes, it is.11:04
dr_willisa hard drive truely is the weakest link these days.. one can die at any time.11:05
Sjajne_Nitibekks, cool :)11:05
Sjajne_Nitibekks, and tell me pls, how to remove zeitgeist from start up11:06
MairusuHello, I'm having issues with CCSM not saving settings. Problem is: Unity disabled itself; re-enabling it in ccsm works, but that's lost between reboots. Any advice?11:06
Sjajne_Nitibekks, I removed it from start up but I can see it still runs some apps11:06
bekksSjajne_Niti: I never used that, sorry.11:06
Sjajne_Nitibekks, kk11:06
bekks!autostart > Sjajne_Niti11:06
ubottuSjajne_Niti, please see my private message11:06
FerkSweAnyone know where the alsa-base.conf is stored?11:08
kristenbb_hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?11:10
FerkSweFound it! >D11:10
FerkSwe*:D11:10
Val1Any C programmers?11:10
FerkSweVal1: I can't C anyone!11:10
k1l!ot | Val111:11
ubottuVal1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:11
djbenganhi11:12
djbengani got a question11:12
FerkSweDjBengan? Is it related to ubuntu on a mac?11:13
djbenganHi ferk!11:13
djbenganlol11:13
djbengan^^11:13
djbenganyes11:13
djbenganindeed11:13
FloodBot1djbengan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:13
Traumeelhaha11:13
Traumeel[ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com11:13
FerkSwedjbengan: Morning11:13
FerkSwedjbengan: What is your problem today then_11:14
k1lTraumeel: please no bot scripts in here.11:14
djbengani rly need to use the proparary driver, but, whenever install it, xorg kinda tells me i got no screen11:14
djbengan(no screen found error)11:14
k1ldjbengan: which uubuntu, which videocard, which driver? where is the driver from?11:15
k1ljust for testing: http://ubuntu.com11:15
Traumeel[ Home | Ubuntu ] - http://ubuntu.com11:15
djbenganLatest relase, Nvidia card, in the macbook air, and the driver is nvidia-current11:16
GeorgyHi evr1, this is my first time on Ubuntu Forums..11:16
GeorgyMy lap-top sys,specs:ASUS Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3200 @ 2.00GHz11:16
Georgy:NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 512MB11:16
GeorgyMotherboard- PEGATRON CORPORATION X71SL11:16
Georgy:3BG ram11:16
FloodBot1Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:16
GeorgyI have previously installed ubuntu maverick on my acer aspire one, and on several other PC, but when it came to my asus it just wont install..11:16
Georgy(i have tried this from CD-boot and USB-boot I also have a 50Gb partition so it will be along side windows)11:16
k1lGeorgy: dont paste that much textlines in here11:17
kristenbb_hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?11:17
k1lkristenbb_: didnt you install the headers?11:17
djbenganand, i followed the wiki for my macbook air, the 3,111:17
djbenganand tried installing the headers11:17
djbenganwich broke unity11:17
Deathlireyou can go without that 3d thing..it's much better anyways.11:17
Georgyk1l, well i try to solve my problem for 2 days now :(11:18
GeorgyNoone knows the answer :(11:18
kristenbb_k1l: I don't know what that means. uname -a shows 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:18
k1lGeorgy: even if its 2 years that is no reason to flood the channel with that much textlines at once11:18
Deathlirewait a minute..maverick..is that 9.10?11:18
GeorgySorry11:18
bekksDeathlire: Yeah, its dead.11:19
k1lkristenbb_: that was just a information for me. Ben64 gave you the correct command. just scroll up and re read11:19
Georgybekks, i found my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185704311:19
GeorgyMaybe you can help ?11:19
kristenbb_k1l: oh sorry I didn't know this applied to me, he wasn't answering me. So am I to execute this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g) ?11:20
DeathlireI loved maverick..11:20
k1lkristenbb_: yes11:20
Deathliredon't really like anything to do with unity though..just my opinion though11:20
bekksGeorgy: Did you try all the different suggestions mentioned in that post?11:20
ShapeShifter499hi11:21
FerkSweDeathlire: Agree. Just switched to gnome 311:21
Deathlirebut there is some good..even with the new ones of disabling it and using the old desktop of course11:21
kristenbb_k1l: okay, I'm doing it right now. While it is downloading, could you please explain what this is, and why I need it ?11:21
Georgybekks, yes nomodeset everything11:22
Georgybekks, nothing helps :(11:22
FerkSwedjbengan: So, when you install your drivers, unity dies?11:22
bekksGeorgy: What else mentioned in that post did you try?11:22
ShapeShifter499I have this rather large key marked with a "P" in the upper right of my laptop keyboard, I remember this being some kind of "program launching" key that worked when I had windows installed, can I remap this to cycle through my workplaces?,11:22
Deathlireis there a reason you want unity? is it a touchscreen or something?11:23
djbenganno, the display goes black11:23
djbenganeverything11:23
DeathlireShapeShifter499 : yes you sure could as long as it doesn't use the same interupts as some other key11:24
Deathliredjbengan : what kind of video card do you have? and processor..i may know the problem11:24
ShapeShifter499Deathlire, as it stands constantly tapping the key seems to do nothing at all so I'm assuming its a blank key aimed for windows only uses, how would I remap this key btw?11:25
we6jbohi11:25
k1lkristenbb_: you need the kernel headers to "compile" the drivers for your kernel version. that is what the driver-installer should do. but if you dont have the headers he cant compile and cant install. so you cant run 3d and get to the unity2d11:26
djbenganNvidia GeForce 320M11:26
djbenganintel dualcore 1,411:26
Georgybekks, well there were no other solutions, and im not going to install 10.04 or smth11:26
we6jboI have a question11:26
you-tee-fis ubuntu a GNU os ?11:26
dr_willisGnu tools are used in Linux.11:26
k1lDeathlire: unity is not only for touchscreens. lets stick to the technical issue in here and not to personal favorites11:26
you-tee-fyes i saw glibc11:27
dr_willisGnu dosent really hae an OS themselfs as far as i know11:27
Deathlirewell if memory serves right you could remap it using the ah can't even remember but it comes with normal versions before unity..and it may not be preinstalled on yours..can someone help me out here?11:27
kristenbb_k1l: the drivers of what ? why can't I download a compiled version, as it is usually the case ?11:27
FerkSwedjbengan: Do you have access to a console using ctrl + alt f3 ?11:27
Deathlireheaders are source..they aren't a binary11:28
k1lkristenbb_: that is the easiest way for you. just make sure you have the headers installed. the rest does the driver-installer for you11:28
we6jboIs there a way to not have Ubuntu ask me to enter a password when I close and reopen the laptop lid?11:28
k1lkristenbb_: the driver for your video-card11:28
onebitxajaxgi to all11:28
FerkSwewe6jbo: Got ubuntu tweaks installed?11:28
onebitxajaxi have a missing header can somene point me how to get it?11:28
onebitxajaxGL3/gl3w.h: No such file or directory11:28
FerkSwewe6jbo: I belive there's an option in there11:29
djbenganno tty is not availble when xorg + headers are installed11:29
you-tee-fdr_willis, well my question is then : ubuntu is based on GNU paradigm ? i saw the glibc was used compiling programs11:29
Deathliresorry k1l : I am doing all this from memory in the sense I haven't used pure ubuntu in a bit. just mostly deb and bt quite a bit lately11:29
ikoniayou-tee-f: you're question makes no sense11:29
k1lGeorgy: maverick is out of support.11:29
ikoniayour even11:29
kristenbb_k1l: okay, the download is done. What now ?11:29
kristenbb_k1l: should I just restart the computer ?11:29
you-tee-fsorry i'm not native, hard to get it11:29
you-tee-f;-)11:29
onebitxajaxnobody can help?11:30
k1lkristenbb_: which video card do you have?11:30
kristenbb_k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.?11:30
kristenbb_k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.11:30
k1lkristenbb_: "lspci" will list your video card11:30
Georgyk1l what does that mean ?11:31
you-tee-fikonia, ubuntu has some GNU features, does that mean ubuntu was intented to be a GNU system ?11:31
k1lGeorgy: out of support means. no updates, no security updates and fixes and no support in here11:31
kristenbb_k1l: many lines appear when I type lspci, which one am I to report ?11:31
ikoniayou-tee-f: an "gnu system"??? what11:31
Deathlireuhm GNU..is GNU..11:31
we6jboFerkSwe: No tweaks11:31
ikoniayou-tee-f: it's a linux distribution, made out of the Linux kernel and the Gnu tools11:32
k1lkristenbb_: the one talking about VGA controller or video card11:32
Georgyk1l, so in other words, no Ubuntu for me :( ?11:32
kristenbb_k1l: then perhaps this one: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 95c211:32
k1lGeorgy: just install a ubuntu that is in the support-range11:32
Deathlireif your doing lspci ...look for something to do with nvidia-amd-radeon-ati something like..11:32
you-tee-fikonia, ok thanks11:32
Georgyk1l, 12.10 is ?11:33
k1lGeorgy: yes, and 12.04. and 10.04 untill april this year11:33
Georgyk1l; Well i have the 12.10 lol ?11:33
Ben64kristenbb_: you might want to do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall dkms" but i'm not sure if ati needs it11:34
k1lGeorgy: then why are you talking about maverick? 12.10 is quantal11:34
GeorgyWHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?11:34
k1lBen64: or reinstall fglrx?11:34
eric-97how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?11:35
Ben64k1l: shouldn't be necessary11:35
andreihey11:35
boomer41Hello, is there a way to add a CA Certificate automaticly - so that every ubuntu system trusts this cert?11:35
Deathlireyou realy want to rsync a command to make a backup every x seconds? correct?11:35
kristenbb_so I should try to reinstall dkms ? What is it ?11:36
jigalhello i have installed ubuntu server on my vps. now when i do apt-get update i get this error temorary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'11:36
Ben64!info dkms | kristenbb_11:36
ubottukristenbb_: dkms (source: dkms): Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 69 kB, installed size 340 kB11:36
Seveasjigal: can you resolve other hostnames?11:36
* api984 is away: Don't follow me11:36
Kartagisikonia: can you help me? sorry for pinging you like that but I can't seem to find a solution11:36
bazhangapi984, disable that11:36
Seveasapi984: stop spamming the channel with away messages11:36
jigalSeveas, nope it seems i have to add a nameserver or so?11:36
k1l!away > api98411:37
ubottuapi984, please see my private message11:37
ikoniaKartagis: depends what the problem is11:37
Deathlirejigal sounds like on your vps the DNS isn't setup right11:37
Seveasjigal: yeah, pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf11:37
kristenbb_Ben64: so wait, was it useless to try to install the kernel headers after all ?11:37
ikoniaSeveas: don't forget the new stupid resolver setup11:37
Seveasikonia: that's done on servers too?11:37
Ben64kristenbb_: no, you need the headers in order for it to build a module11:37
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Georgyk1l, WHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?11:37
ikoniaSeveas: I thought it had been put in on 12.10.....not betting my life11:37
Deathlireeh, it's always good to install kernel headers..if you have the space :)11:38
Seveasikonia: on my fresh 12.10 vps it's not doing that11:38
jigalSeveas, nameserver 109.72.90.5211:38
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ikoniaSeveas: then "no"11:38
bekksGeorgy: You did. Now please lets get back to support.11:38
Seveasjigal: ok, pasterbin the output of: dig @109.72.90.52 google.com11:38
bekksGeorgy: Did you try all the suggestions that where mentioneed in the forum post you linke, besides nomodeset?11:38
GeorgyThere were no other ?11:38
Deathliretry nameservers 1) 8.8.8.8 amd 2.) 8.4.4.8 <- googles nameservers11:39
_cronus_Georgy, does either the memory test or the boot from hard disk options work?11:39
bekksGeorgy: There are a lot. Read the thread again.11:39
k1lGeorgy: that was in the text you pasted into the channel.11:39
jigalSeveas, connection time out11:39
kristenbb_Ben64: so, I typed the reinstall command, and it completed very quickly. What am I to do now ?11:39
SeveasDeathlire: isn't the second 8.8.4.411:39
bekksGeorgy: And in the post you linked, there even was a link to more suggestions for problem solutions.11:39
Ben64yeah its not 8.4.4.811:39
Deathlireahh it might be actually Seveas need to dbl check11:39
Seveasjigal: replace 109.72.90.52 with 8.8.8.8 and contact your VPS provider to find out which nameservers you should use11:39
Kartagisikonia: so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/xen11:40
Kartagisoops11:40
Ben64kristenbb_: any errors? did you see it build a module?11:40
Deathlireactually your VPS sppl should have gave you an email with nameservers and dns and all that..kind of odd they didn't really11:40
Kartagisso, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w11:40
Kartagisithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)11:40
Kartagisikonia: ^11:40
jigalSeveas, is it tha same as a DNS? because in my config panel it gives me to DNS adddresses I just used one of them11:40
artreiwhat's best driver for nvidia? nouveau or current?11:40
kristenbb_Ben64: no errors, but I doubt it built anything11:41
ikoniaKartagis: run ldd against /bin/sh - see what it's looking for11:41
Seveasjigal: yes.11:41
fermomuoviticiao11:41
ikoniaKartagis: then qualify each of those libraries11:41
fermomuoviti!list11:41
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GeorgyAllright, so i have read whole the topic, the guy still has no solution, he use apprently 11.04 now, and those other options i already tried, nothing helps11:41
Ben64kristenbb_: well you could restart and see if ubuntu 3d works, but i'm not an expert on ati/amd11:41
Kartagisikonia: if I can't boot to it, how can I run ldd?11:41
ikoniaKartagis: use a livecd ?11:42
bekksGeorgy: So which other option is mentioned there?11:42
ikoniaKartagis: and if you can't boot - how do you plan to fix this ?11:42
k1lkristenbb_: no errors doesnt mean nothing happend11:42
kristenbb_Ben64: k1l : here is the output, awfully brief: http://pastebin.com/yS14USJP11:42
Ben64Georgy: 11.04 isn't supported either...11:42
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DeathlireI remember having a few problems on an older comp with graphical problems..but is totally unrelated since it was agp related..but ahh nm.11:43
GeorgyTry ubuntu without installing, acpi=off,  ..11:43
bekksGeorgy: And which three other options are mentioned, too?11:44
Ben64kristenbb_: could you pastebin "find /var/lib/dkms"11:44
Georgybekks, all with nomodeset ?11:45
Georgyusing 10.0411:45
Georgyor 11.0411:45
bekksGeorgy: No. You have to read the complete thread, not just the first few posts.11:45
Georgybekks, i read it complete11:45
GeorgyLast ditch effort you can try these flags, they worked well for me on earlier releases.11:45
GeorgyWhat does that mean ?11:46
Deathlirei tried all the nomodeset with quite a few distro's..none would even work when my card just simply wouldn't work..and still to this day I can't figure out why11:46
bekksGeorgy: Obviously you didnt read the second page.11:46
GeorgyMy post in on the second page11:46
GeorgyAnd i did read it11:47
Georgyjust dont undstand all those words11:47
bekksGeorgy: Three optioned mentioned, worth a try.11:47
boomer41How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?11:47
GeorgyI tried them all 311:47
jigalSeveas, have added the DNS off google and still same rorr11:47
bekksGeorgy: When? You just said you dont know what it means.11:47
Seveasjigal: can you ping 8.8.8.8?11:48
GeorgyYeah that one with the flags11:48
Georgyi tried the other11:48
Deathlirejigal did you ifconfig eth0 down? and back up11:48
jigalSeveas, Deathlire it says the network is unreachable11:48
kristenbb_Ben64: http://pastebin.com/LpyxNmui11:48
boomer41How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?11:48
Deathlirewhat is your host? might be good to actually check if its having some sort of problem before ya go nuts about it?11:49
ShapeShifter499hmm11:49
Icebear....11:49
Ben64kristenbb_: looks like the driver is built11:49
Ben64kristenbb_: although, why aren't you running on the latest kernel?11:50
kristenbb_Ben64: okay, so I should just restart then ?11:50
jigalDeathlire, it's a vips11:50
kristenbb_Ben64: I have no idea?11:50
jigalvps11:50
Ben64Mar 10 2013 03:53:27 <kristenbb_>k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:50
vivanovis 13.04 usable now ?11:50
ShapeShifter499I found a command that works for me in the terminal via the vary last post at the bottom of http://askubuntu.com/questions/5229/how-can-i-bind-a-key-to-cycle-between-workspaces      but when I try to bind this command to a key in "System Settings>Keyboard"   nothing happens, am I doing something wrong?11:50
Deathlireif the comp won't run on the latest kernel it's probably something to do with it not being able to handle such things..11:50
Ben64kristenbb_: you should be on 3.2.0-3811:50
Seveasjigal: ok, either your routing is messed up, or there's a firewall in place. Pastebin output of this: ifconfig -a; route -n; iptables-save11:50
Ben64kristenbb_: unless you just haven't restarted in a pretty long while?11:50
kristenbb_Ben64: I don't know11:51
kristenbb_Ben64: I have restarted just yesterday11:51
Ben64kristenbb_: well then i'd say restart, and come back here if it's not working still11:51
Seveasjigal: and while you're at it: outpuf of traceroute 8.8.8.811:51
kristenbb_Ben64: ok I will, I just have to let some work finish first11:51
kristenbb_Ben64: thanks a lot for your help11:52
Ben64kristenbb_: no problem. also, maybe check in grub during boot up to see what kernel it's loading11:52
marc__hello11:52
ShapeShifter499never mind, got it working :D11:52
ShapeShifter499typo lol11:52
Deathlirenice ShapeShifter49911:53
jigalok have to deal with this later gtg now. Seveas thanks11:53
cristian_cHi11:53
cristian_cHow to switch audio from mono to stereo?11:53
cristian_cAny ideas?11:53
eric-97how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?12:02
Ben64man rsync12:03
Deathlireit copies everything..that you wish12:03
eric-97could you gimme an example of how to copy stuff12:03
Deathlirecp /home/~user/example.txt /media/eric/data/12:04
eric-97and how do I do that with rsync?12:04
_cronus_Kartagis, does this message appear in the initrd stage or after root mount? maybe libc is missing only from initrd12:04
Deathlirecp is copy ..rsync is for backing up.12:04
eric-97the reason I want to use rsync is cos it is faster, am I right?12:05
Ben64eric-97: for reals, use a man page or do "--help" at the end of a command12:05
eric-97because look, when I copy files to my USB stick it is at first 25 mbps then after 5 minutes it's 5 mbps12:05
Deathlireusually rsync is for mirroing backups..not for just copying. what are you trying to do eric-97 ?12:05
eric-97but when I use teracopy on Windows it copies super fast at constant speed12:05
Deathlire*mirroring*12:05
eric-97so how do I copy files efficiently to my usb stick without exponentially slowing down speed?12:06
Ben64flash drives are slow, you can't really get around that12:06
k1lDeathlire: rsync is for secur copying because it checks the hashes of the files12:06
Deathlireif your using wireless, those speeds are irrelavent. because negotiaion speeds will deduce when you use them over weak signals12:07
eric-97is there anything like Teracopy (windows) for linux?12:07
k1leric-97: the slowing down is related to the slow writing speed of your usb-stick12:07
Deathlireand I'm misspelling words like crazy :P12:07
Ben64and12:07
eric-97but come on, even an sd card is faster12:07
Kartagis_cronus_: it appears right after I select the kernel12:07
Ben64just because it says its going slower doesn't mean it is actually going slower.12:08
Deathlireit all has to do with your speeds of other things and how it can really keep up with data bursts.12:08
k1leric-97: that depends on that usb-stick and the flash memory in it.12:08
Deathlirebut they are right in the word of all12:08
k1leric-97: i dont know of a reason why cp or rsync should be slower.12:08
_cronus_Kartagis, then probably it is missing from initrd. that's why everything looks normal after system is booted.12:09
Deathlirenever trust something that says exact time, it is only an estimation12:09
_cronus_Kartagis, you could try to extract initrd to verify this...12:09
eric-97kll: if I have two ISO files, it would be faster ro copy each separately instead of both after eachother12:09
Kartagis_cronus_: how do I do that?12:09
eric-97*to12:09
bekkseric-97: In terms of I/O, thats irrelevant - the copy process will take the same time.12:10
Deathlireof course it would be faster..that would be seperate files..but not as fast to copy both with cp..so it depends on the eyes of the beholder and your preference12:10
Deathlireand how much you lag within typing the next copy command12:10
eric-97then what makes teracopy for windows faster than normal copy?12:10
bekksDeathlire: Please tell us, in terms of I/O why copying multiple files will take a longer time for each file, when copying one file after the other.12:11
DeathlireI can't tell you, I haven't used teracopy. But I willtell you windows usually lies about it's copying time and bars.12:11
k1leric-97: there is a difference between saying its copying faster and actuall  doing it faster12:11
_cronus_Kartagis, there should be a tutorial. i'll try to locate it12:11
eric-97Deathlire: thats what microsoft does since DOS12:12
k1leric-97: the best program in the world cant copy faster than the memory can save the data. thats it12:12
eric-97ok12:12
eric-97but can I mod the system to let cp cache more?12:12
bekkseric-97: No.12:12
eric-97or is it by default?12:12
Deathlireahh bekks : If you do one copy of a file and it is 40 gigs and you let it finish while walking away..and it's done before you get back..ya get my drift? :P just copy both at once12:12
bekkseric-97: The I/O cache will be as big as possible.12:13
eric-97oh ok12:13
Ben64cache isn't the problem. the slow flash memory is12:13
Ben64get a fancy new usb3 flash drive if you want speed12:13
_cronus_Kartagis, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/12:14
bekksDeathlire: Copying both at the same time, in terms of I/O, will divide the bandwidth for each file by two. They will take twice the time, and magically, the summed time after finishing copy is the same as copying them one after another.12:14
Deathlirei'm satisfied with 45MB a second on my usb2.0 500gig seagate..of course it doesn't stay with 45MB, it seems to go down to about 20 or so because of the IO. of course :)12:14
kokanini am trying to boot some diskless nodes using warewulf, while doing the exact same thing quantal and raring fail to boot, but precise works. The console just blanks out after busybox switching to the new root using exec switch_root /newroot /sbin/init, does anyone have a clue what might be changed?12:15
Deathlirebekks  ya missed my point, I was actually saying the same thing as you are, really.12:15
bekksDeathlire: 45MB/s on USB2 is pretty impossible, since the technical max. is about 33MB/s for the USB2 controllers.12:16
Deathlireit's hooked up to a 3.0 but i'm only guessing it isn't right since the average speed is around 15-2012:17
bekksDeathlire: At the beginning of the process, the bandwidth is higher,since the actual process uses the I/O cache in RAM.12:17
Deathlireplus it hasn't been formatted in awhile either..it's pretty unstable12:18
k1land i think that is what the super_duper copy programs do on windows. they just cache everything in ram or the hdd to make it look faster12:18
Deathlirewindows doesn't even really delete files :P12:19
Deathlirebut yeah..probably12:19
k1lits like painitng GT stripes onto your car. that doesnt makle anything go faster12:19
kokaninlol12:19
Deathlireyou can cache all ya want, but doesn't matter in the end when the throughput is all worn out :P12:23
intuxicatedhi , i have problem to install nvidia driver , i installed nvidia driver ( nvidia_current package ) , when i try to use 'modprobe nvidia_current' i got error 'No such device'12:28
intuxicatedany idea ?12:28
bekksintuxicated: Just use "sudo modprobe nvidia"12:29
intuxicatedbekks:kk12:29
intuxicatedbekks: module nvidia not fount12:30
intuxicatedfound*12:30
dr_willisintuxicated:  you did reboot the pc after installing those?12:31
Deathliredid you get errors while installing? or did you do it by the gui?12:31
intuxicateddr_willis: i restart the system like 999times12:32
Deathliredid you try the other driver?12:32
intuxicatedDeathlire: i don't have gui now , i didn't get any error while installing12:32
intuxicatedDeathlire: what other driver ?12:32
Ned_Flandershi i need some help12:32
intuxicatedNed_Flanders: hi :)12:33
Deathlirewell not any expert at all on the matter of graphics..but there used to be 2 versions of the nvidia driver12:33
NimbleI'm trying to get my touchpad to work with multitouch gestures. I know the hardware has support for it because it works in windows, but on ubuntu the only thing that works is two finger scrolling. Anyone know what I can do?12:33
Deathlireat least through the gui anyways12:33
intuxicatedDeathlire: you mean with jockey-kde ?12:34
Deathlirewith gnome actually, haven't used kde since the 90's12:34
Deathlirebut still should work either way. I'm guessing you installed via shell?12:35
Deathlireand that you actually have an nvidia thats supported12:35
WillWork4FooHi all - I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 on an encrypted LVM setup, and I'm trying to work out how to add a second disk to create a mirrored volume group. I can't seem to find a howto anywhere - does anyone know of a good guide?12:35
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Ned_Flandersis it normal for ubuntu 12.4 + gnome to be using 1.8gb of memory?12:36
histo!raid | WillWork4Foo12:36
ubottuWillWork4Foo: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto12:36
BlackWebDoes anyone know if Kernel 3.2.0-26  Supports 3TB HDDs12:36
abetusksorry for the stupid question, but I've installed server 12.10 and now I'm only getting a guest and an anonymous login....how do I enable others to login?12:36
histoBlackWeb: Why wouldn't it?12:36
bekksWillWork4Foo: Using LVM, you will have to use a third disk to store the metadata for mirroring, or, the mirror will have to be recreated at every bootup. Using LVM for mirroring is a very bad idea.12:37
BlackWebRight now I'm banging my head into a wall trying to format my Brand New 3tb Drives12:37
Deathlireadduser --help or useradd --help12:37
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histoBlackWeb: Use GPT12:37
WillWork4Foobekks, ah ok. In that case, is there another thing I can do to mirror my OS disk?12:37
WillWork4Fooinstead of LVM?12:37
histoBlackWeb: You can't use msdos partioning table you need to use GPT12:37
Ned_Flanderscan anyone help me with a memory leak?12:37
histoBlackWeb: like gparted or gdisk  or one of the tools that supports it12:37
bekksWillWork4Foo: Using software raid would be the alternative - or use a hardware raid.12:38
BlackWebOn 12.04 Server I can format them but after a couple of reboots then it fails to mount the drives so essentially disables system12:38
BlackWebI've tried parted and errors out12:38
BlackWebHeres what I've tried12:38
histoBlackWeb: gparted <<<< notice the G12:38
bekkshisto: The g stands for graphical, in terms of gparted. gparted is based on libparted.12:39
histobekks: I know but it does gpt12:39
BlackWebAlright I'll give gparted a try but ya    parted -a optimal "device" ; mklabel gpt; mkpart; quit ; then mkfs.ext2 "device"12:39
BlackWebDoes it have to be a certain type?12:39
WillWork4Foobekks, OK - is it possible to apply software RAID to an already-installed system? Or is it destructive?12:39
bekkshisto: and the g is totally irrelevant for the features of libparted. :)12:39
BlackWebIt keep erroring out doing ext3, so now it trying to format it with ext212:40
bekksWillWork4Foo: I'd reinstall it - and personally, I dont use encryption.12:40
WillWork4Foobekks, OK thanks.12:40
bekksWillWork4Foo: So you're better of creating a full backup.12:40
histoBlackWeb: gdisk cgdisk and sgdisk if you want to use a cli app. gparted if you want a gui app for GPT12:40
bekksBlackWeb: Dont do it. ext2 is an ext3 without a journal.12:40
histoBlackWeb: What tool did you use to partition the drives/12:41
bekksBlackWeb: Getting errors errors on mkfs - you should investigate them.12:41
BlackWebI've been getting the errors when I'm trying to create a filesystem on the partition12:42
bekksBlackWeb: And the errors are caused by the MSDOS label you are using. Use GPT, and you will be able to create partitions larger than 2TB.12:42
bekksBlackWeb: And after creating a partition like that, you will have no problem in using ext4, which is an even better choice than ext3.12:42
BlackWebWhich so far I've tried using mkfs.ext & parted to do the partitions Both have Failed12:42
bekksBlackWeb: mkfs doesnt create a partition at all.12:42
histoBlackWeb: parted should be able to createa  gpt table12:43
BlackWebya used parted to create the partition then mkfs to do the filesystem12:43
Deathlirenew kernels should support 3Tb raids..right?12:43
bekksBlackWeb:You were using the wrong format. You have to use GPT for a disk > 3TB.12:43
BlackWebHow would I obtain a newer kernel throught the command line12:43
histoBlackWeb: It's not the kernel12:44
histoBlackWeb: Ifyou would listen12:44
HawkerzDeathlire, 3 TB is quite small...12:44
BlackWebRight now I'm waiting for it to fail again on this format then I'll try those suggestions you mentioned :)12:44
nanashiReiBlackWeb http://google.com/?q=gpt12:44
nanashiReiBlackWeb http://google.com/?q=uefi12:45
Deathlirewell they aren't totally huge..but they are bigger than most normal comps. just servers and now I'm remembering this is a server application.12:45
BlackWebTo be honest I've spent my whole Saturday & Been up for 24hrs trying to get it done, Running on Monster Energy Now12:45
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histolike talking to a wall12:45
Deathliremaybe you need to rest and the answer will come to those who wait?12:45
HawkerzDeathlire, I think the theoretical limit on filesystem size is like 16 exabytes or something silly12:46
histoBlackWeb: In parted mklabel gpt  then partition12:46
BlackWebAlright I'll give that a try12:46
Deathlireexabytes...wow..wish i had even 1 of those :P12:47
histoBlackWeb: then format and go to bed12:47
BlackWeb;) Cheers lol12:47
Hawkerz24h, lightweight :p12:47
Deathlirei do 96 hours no prob :P but I'm usually done with whatever i tried to achieve and twice more at least :P12:48
c2tarunis there anyway to change the icon of any app in Unity 2D launcher?12:49
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nanashiReiThere is nothing that a 24 cans pallet of Redbull or Coffee can't fix :P12:49
DeathlireI don't do caffeine at all anymore..kills me really..got some probs...i'm 3112:49
Deathliremy main technological thing is network/wifi anymore12:51
Deathlirehmm is konversation actually installed default on ubuntu now?12:53
Hawkerzmaybe12:53
HawkerzI haven't done a clean install in some time12:53
Deathlirei doubt it..he used something other than a normal net :P12:53
Hawkerzif you installed ubuntu desktop I'd be surprised, but if you installed kubuntu maybe12:54
DeathlireI haven't done a clean install since maverick..far as ubuntu..last thing i have booted is bt512:55
GeorgyHawkerz, any other ideas to fix my problem :( ?12:55
HawkerzGeorgy, what's the current problem?12:55
GeorgySame as yesterday12:55
Georgyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185704312:55
HawkerzDeathlire, the last clean installation I did was MS Dos 6.2212:55
k1lDeathlire: konverstaion is not a standard program for ubuntu12:56
Deathlirelol..yeah that was a clean install to nowhere..at least ya didn't say 3.0 :P12:56
k1lDeathlire: since it uses the gnome base its empathy12:56
HawkerzDeathlire, for archival purposes12:56
Deathlirewas figuring that k1l thats the last thing i remember from 11.x something12:57
k1lDeathlire: konversation is a kde program. it might be standard on kubuntu12:57
sanav!ot12:57
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:57
Deathlirei actually like win3.11 nice and fast but you have to have some very ancient progs to use it, have those to12:57
k1lGeorgy: what is you actual issue? just pasting a forum thread from 2011 is not supposed to let people help you12:58
cfhowlett!details|Georgy,12:59
ubottuGeorgy,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:59
Georgycfgowlett, read the link i gave, all details in there12:59
Georgyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185704312:59
Deathlirei can say without a doubt it may be the pegatron mobo if your using a new distro of ubuntu with the newer Xorg12:59
Lee-CHi guys,  can anyone please tell how to use pm-suspend so you need to enter a password on resume like you usually would if clicking the sleep button.  Cheers.13:03
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Deathlirebrb in a few13:04
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HawkerzGeorgy, which of those posts is yours...13:05
ronaldshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5601789/13:07
ronaldswhats wrong with this openbox autostart file13:08
newuser123whtagwan13:09
coolmanlgI have a mobile broadband app installed in wine but the app does cannot see the attached usbmodem. Any idea on how I can access the modem from wine?13:10
Deathliresetup your conf with using usb0-1-2-3 try doing lsusb to find your usb stick13:11
cfhowlettcoolmanlg, I'd be surprised if wine has fully realized USB support ...13:11
Hawkerzwine barely has 32 bit windows executable support13:12
GeorgyHawkerz, last one, but i have same pc13:12
Georgy& problem13:12
coolmanlgDeathlire, which conf?13:12
histo!appd | coolmanlg13:12
histo!appdb | coolmanlg13:13
ubottucoolmanlg: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help13:13
Deathlirei've got wine to support quite a few things..usually it supports my usb sticks though13:13
Hawkerzand the same version of ubuntu? IF all of that is true, Georgy , did you follow the instructions in that thread?13:13
Deathlirewine.conf or winex13:13
histoDeathlire: Yeah but he would need drivers that the program would understand13:13
histocoolmanlg: Any reason you don't use the usbmodem in linux?13:13
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Deathlireyeah..usually i needed all drivers and files for emulating to do it right13:13
Lee-CCan anyone help me with setting resume from pm-suspend to prompt for password please :)13:14
Deathlirebrb gotta put the hamburger up for slaughter :P13:14
Hawkerzfor software running on wine to have seamless integration with os/hardware seems like it would have to  be a miracle -- it's not like he's just trying to access a bag of bits or some files13:14
coolmanlghisto: the app provide a means to recharge the modem with credit. I have not been able to find a way to send USSD request via the modem13:14
histocoolmanlg: What kind of modem is it?13:15
cfhowlettcoolmanlg, perhaps install windows into a virtualbox, install guest additions and run your app ...13:15
histo+1 for virtual machine13:16
tobzelFor some odd reason I don't understand my libmysqlclient disappeared from /usr/lib. I've already tried to reinstall libmysqlclient-dev and mysql-client but it doesn't reinstall the fiel13:16
histocoolmanlg: That is your best bet if there is no linux support for it. Getting something like that in wine to work would be a little far fetched.13:16
coolmanlghuawei e303. cfhowlett: That's what I currently do. I just want the ease of doing everything from.13:16
will0whey guys, i switched to ubuntu a while ago its awesome blown away with the scope and freedom! I want to set up a private network, server and developing environment looking for some advice13:16
Hawkerzcoolmanlg, but it does sound like it could be a fun side project to spend your vacation on!13:17
cfhowlettcoolmanlg, you might be asking just a bit too much of wine ...13:17
HawkerzI literally just tried getting outlook working in wine13:18
Hawkerzeven that crashed13:18
GeorgyHawkerz, there is no solution given ?13:18
coolmanlghisto: I can use the modem in ubuntu. infact that is what am using right now in Ubuntu 12.04.13:19
Hawkerzyou're not even installing the same release,...13:19
histocoolmanlg: What do you mean a way to recharge credit?13:19
GeorgyWell its the same problem ?13:19
HawkerzGeorgy, that is.13:19
coolmanlgHawkerz: yea. My coding ability is limited to php and a bit of python.13:19
histocoolmanlg: I doubt that's controlled on a hardware level.13:19
Deathlirehuawei..with a subscription from what provider?13:19
Hawkerzcoolmanlg, yeah, i realized that sounded as thought it was directed at you, but it wasn't13:19
GeorgyHawkerz, i think its just Asus :(13:20
Hawkerzhisto, but its ability to connect to the internet is probably dependent upon having some system to tell it to do that13:20
coolmanlghisto: It's prepaid modem with subscripton from a provider.13:20
HawkerzGeorgy, what is the laptop you're working with?13:20
histocoolmanlg: So I don't understand why you need their software if it's prepaid13:21
Deathlirehave you considere you also have to siable that *modem* to use as an emulated device since it's not going through loopback for some reason?13:21
histocoolmanlg: you pay them it works....13:21
Deathliredisable*13:21
coolmanlghisto:the modem usually come with windows app that you can use to buy subscription. Huawei has an app for Linux but all effort to get it to work has been futile.13:22
Guest44549Im trying to get a hang of ARP. Lets say I want to send a packet from x to y via router R. I got R's MAC-address through ARP-query, so an IP-packet is made to B, sent to R which in turn maces another LLF to y. But what will the ARP table on x say on the route to y after that?13:22
histocoolmanlg: Can you buy a subscription from the providers site?13:22
Deathlireyou need the driver that windows uses to run the modem placed in your wine libs...preffereably a 32 bit one13:22
histocoolmanlg: Sounds like you have an XY problem13:23
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Deathlireand i cannot spell right now :P13:23
HawkerzGuest44549, I'm going to take a random guess and say there is a channel called #networking where you should have that discussion13:23
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coolmanlghisto: What I currently do is to use Windows via Vbox to buy the credit. No, you can't buy from their site.13:23
histocoolmanlg: Perhaps switch providers13:24
Deathlireput the drivers for the usb modem into wine..and then restart it, start it up and then emulate the windows software13:24
Guest44549okay, Hawkerz. Will try that13:24
Hawkerzcoolmanlg, I still think it's going to make a really fun project, but I don't think you're going to finish this weekend13:24
abetuskexit13:25
coolmanlgDealthlire: I will try it and see. Thanks.13:25
abetuskwhoops, sorry13:25
Deathlirewell was gonna help guest out..but if they are a guest..can't help em when they leave13:25
coolmanlgDeathlire: the driver may emulate the modem?13:25
Deathlireyeah Hawkerz it isn't something ya do over 10 minutes but, you probably would spend a good night on it13:25
megdanovsomeone familiar with audio driver issues and willing to help ? :)13:25
Deathlireholdon gotta check the meat13:26
Hawkerzmegdanov, be more specific -- we have all heard of them, but I doubt many of us have written one13:26
histo!ask | megdanov13:26
ubottumegdanov: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:26
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histomegdanov: have you tried selecting a different output in the sound properties?13:27
megdanovsrr, it's third time asking and didn't find help and now forgot to be speciffic13:28
megdanovlaptop Toshiba Qosmio x770 . Sub is off13:28
megdanovthe fron speaker work13:28
megdanovbut the sub is not and cant find any driver :(13:28
Hawkerzdid you try installing the driver?13:28
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megdanovi can't find any appropriate driver to install. The speakers are working since installation but not the subwoofer(it's integrated)13:29
Hawkerzso the subwoofer expects sufficiently powered/amplified output fed through the speakers, yet it doesn't even connect directly to the source?13:30
Hawkerzmy subwoofer works fine, and i definitely don't have any drivers for it13:30
will0wi found mono useful for creating the right environment to run windows software, you can emulate the .NET and runtime environment in ubuntu, windows progs run better in the right environment13:31
Guest56538hello13:31
megdanovit does not require any additional power source13:31
Hawkerzwill0w, can I use mono to install outlook?13:31
megdanovits integrated in the laptop13:31
cfhowlettGuest56538, greetings13:31
megdanovat the bottom13:31
Hawkerzoh13:31
Guest56538:)13:31
Hawkerzthat makes more sense :p13:31
Guest56538is anyone good at ubuntu?13:32
Hawkerzi didn't know they put subwoofers you could actually hear anywhere on laptops13:32
Hawkerzwhat kind of laptop is it?13:32
megdanovToshiba Qosmio X77013:32
will0wI should imagine it would increase your chances of getting it going, most windows software runs with .Net, my ubuntu at the moment seems to run almost any windows prog without problem not tried outlook but will try it now13:32
HawkerzGuest56538, if you have a question please ask it13:32
cfhowlett!ask|Guest5653813:32
ubottuGuest56538: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:32
Hawkerzyeah, that.13:33
will0wmono has enabled me to have the basic windows software running in the background of ubuntu13:33
will0wwine program loader and mono13:33
Hawkerzmegdanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/94486413:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 944864 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "toshiba qosmio x770 subwoofer not working" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:34
Hawkerzit's a known bug in alsa13:34
Guest56538ah sorry, all new to this. anyway i live in China and there's this stupid firewall thing; how can i configure my vpn so it punches through and i can finally watch youtube13:34
exalthello why does my system crash on this command: sudo memdump > mem.raw13:34
cfhowlettGuest56538, you vpn provider should supply that info13:34
megdanovIt seems abandoned13:35
megdanovI published another one13:35
megdanova guy tried to help but no luck13:35
Guest56538ah, how do i get to that info; like easy step by step instructions13:36
Hawkerzcertainly it does not appear to be high on anyone's priority list13:36
cfhowlettGuest56538, which vpn provider did you sign up with13:36
will0wGuest56538 there might be a tor bridge near you?13:37
hojgaardanyone know if there still is to be a big secret in raring that only will be known at release?13:37
dannyjorishi, I set up Ubuntu Server as a VM in virtualbox, but I can't ping the IP. THe network settings are NAT & Host-Only. It's a fresh install so I assume I need to configure it. ANy idea how?13:37
histoGuest56538: Do you have a server you can ssh to?13:37
megdanovThank you anyway. Hope soon there will be a solution so i don't have to boot away to win just to listen to music13:37
Deathlirei'm back somewhat for a bit, whats up13:37
cfhowlettGuest56538, different providers, different processes ...13:37
Guest56538i dont know. :( ive just installed ubuntu sorry13:38
cfhowlettdannyjoris, outside of my area, but I bet #ubuntu-server might know.13:38
dannyjoriscfhowlett: thanks13:38
cfhowlettGuest56538, so you have NOT bought a vpn package then.  That's step one I guess.  The few free vpn providers are well known and quickly killed by the great firewall13:39
Hawkerzdannyjoris, you probably have to bind sshd locally13:39
Hawkerzand if you're also running sshd on the host, you probably want to put one of them on a different port13:39
Hawkerzthen you can just ssh localhost13:40
Deathlirehmm somebody trying to use the free shell access with no output or otherwise firewalled output?13:40
Guest56538ah yes, i prob need to buy a vpn service i know i was using freegate on my windows system but it wasnt terribly good13:41
Guest56538nice country but a stupid ass GCF13:42
cfhowlettGuest56538, I've given up trying to get YT but there IS a free and easy FB workaround ...13:42
Deathlireif ya have a home comp not in use..just it as your personal vpn anywhere13:42
jkklIs it true Ubuntu is less prone to viruses than Windows?13:43
cfhowlettjkkl, true13:43
Deathliretrue enough jkkl13:43
Deathlirejust make sure root has a good password or it will be just the same13:44
Guest56538FB walkaround? or which VPN would you suggest?13:45
jkklcfhowlett: Deathlire: Well, I don't get viruses from your mom either. I'm protected. So please cease and desist your blabbering. Are you trying to convice me that not getting any viruses is a symbol of high quality of your choice of software? The fact that you're attributing that characteristic to Linux has already earned you a spot on my hate list. Besides, I can make my computer immune to viruses. Just watch. Pop! Did you see that? I13:45
Guest56538...vpn provider13:45
DeathlireNice, jkkl, you have taken the troll course. :P13:45
Hawkerzinteresting13:46
HawkerzI always advocate protection personally13:46
Deathlirehope they have a deadbolt eh..lol..reminds me of a Defcon13:46
Guest56538i think jkkl likes linux13:46
jkklGuest56538: Why? Linux can't do nothing.13:46
cfhowlettjkkl, well that's quite original thinking you've got going there pardner!  Tell me, other than displaying your appalling lack of manners, why are you here?13:47
Deathlirelinux does all the things you don't want to be into.13:47
Guest56538oh maybe not13:47
cfhowlettGuest56538, wait 113:47
cfhowlettjkkl, oh and you HATE me?  Then my day if fulfilled.13:48
jkklcfhowlett: GOOD13:48
cfhowlettGuest56538, see this  http://www.letskis.com/how-unblock-facebook-vietnam-china/13:48
cfhowlettGuest56538, use this.  took about 30 seconds13:48
cfhowletthttp://www.armabloggin.com/facehost.php13:48
Deathlirewhy don't you go chroot -R 777 yourself jkkl :P13:49
Capprenticehey anyone knows how can make a complete bootable system out of my installed system. actually i wana know how i can use remsatersys ?!13:49
histoCapprentice: yeap remastersys13:51
histo!remastersys | Capprentice13:51
Capprenticehisto, how do u cross the 4gm limit ? i have a30 gb system..13:51
histoCapprentice: well what do you ahve that you are going to fit that on?13:52
Guest56538thanks...the letskis website is telling me of a XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state13:53
Capprenticehisto,  i want to make a  complete back up of the whole system !13:53
histo!backup | Capprentice13:53
ubottuCapprentice: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning13:53
Deathlirersync woot13:53
histoDeathlire: meh no compression13:54
histobut good utility13:54
Deathliretried imaging?13:55
histoCapprentice: dd if=/dev/sdX | gzip -6 > somefile.img13:55
lysy_12345613:55
histoCapprentice: you'll want to do that on an unmounted system.13:55
Deathlireunmount /dev/sd*13:55
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histoCapprentice: also I would name it somefile.img.gz  so you remember it's gzipped13:57
Deathlireactually should have said sudo first..but used to being in root really13:57
gustav_So my steam stuff isn't working. Is this where I complain?13:58
Hawkerzdepends on why it's not working13:59
Hawkerzbut probably not13:59
cfhowlettgustav_, we don't fix steam ... valve does13:59
Deathlirenot really..but probably in wine...I actualy have a working steam in Wine though13:59
histogustav_: no complain to valve13:59
gustav_Valve doesn't support the Linux client.13:59
Hawkerzdidn't they release it?13:59
gustav_So no use complaining to them.13:59
histogustav_: there is a support section right on their site13:59
DeathlireI haven't even tried the nix version..lol13:59
gustav_I've e-mailed them two times or more and they've responded, both times, with that they don't support the Linux client.14:00
Guest56538i think you should send Valve a strongly worded email14:00
gustav_I sort of did.14:00
Guest56538oh yea14:00
gustav_Yep.14:00
Deathlirewell they told you exactly what they mean..use a windows based one and wine it14:00
Hawkerzgustav_, if you can provide error messages it's possible we can help14:00
histogustav_: Pleas go to the support site14:00
gustav_histo: It's not a known problem I don't think.14:00
histogustav_: you won't know if you don't check14:01
Deathlirehmm what is your problem?14:01
gustav_It's something optirun/bumblebee.14:01
Hawkerzah14:01
Guest56538what game do you want to play on steam?14:01
Hawkerzare you optirun'ing steam?14:01
gustav_I get an X11-error.14:01
gustav_Yep.14:01
gustav_And then when I launch the game (tried two different ones) it reports some kind of X11-error.14:02
Deathlirewhat game though?14:02
Hawkerzgustav_, a copy of the error message would be very useful14:02
Hawkerzgustav_, use ubuntu's pastebin service -- I can't remember the URL but hmmm14:02
Hawkerz!paste14:02
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:02
GeorgyHawkerz14:03
Hawkerzyep?14:03
GeorgyShould i get myself Linux Mint, cause i cant get ubuntu ?14:03
Deathliremint kinda sucks..its14:04
HawkerzI'm still not clear on what the issue is with ubuntu.  You have an installation DVD correct?14:04
gustav_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601935/ This is for Team Fortress 2.14:04
Georgyyes14:04
Georgyit just my pc14:04
Hawkerzput it in the drive, moved your cd/dvdrom drive to the top of the boot order?14:04
Guest56538cool game14:04
Hawkerzand did you wind up in ubuntu?14:04
Georgyyes14:05
Georgyi get the instalation meny14:05
gustav_TF2 used to work great but when I upgraded it installed some extra package. That's my suspect but I can't remember it's name.14:05
Hawkerzokay, then what happened?14:05
Georgybut when i choose anyhting14:05
Georgyfomr the menu, i get a blac kscreen with white dash14:05
Georgyon top14:05
Hawkerzgustav_, that error message is worthlessly vague14:05
gustav_Hawkerz: I agree.14:05
HawkerzGeorgy, which menu?14:05
Guest56538i love kebab14:06
Deathlirehmm TF2, actually got a buddy that does TF2 server recoding..and we both use Wine emulating for them, it does pretty well if you have eerything installed14:06
gustav_Will apt-get purge steam remove all the packages it uses?14:06
gustav_Hmm.14:06
Georgythe installation menu14:06
Georgywhen i start up pc14:06
Georgywith live cd14:06
Hawkerzgustav_, anything in ~/.xsession-errors? or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?14:07
Deathlireit is probably an X server thats not really compatible with your setup..least I have found with my older systems anyways..is it an older system?14:07
jammsenhi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.14:07
Hawkerzgustav_, if you pastebin your /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf it would be a good place to start from14:07
gustav_Hawkerz: BadWindow blabla.14:07
GeorgyHawkerz, you got ubuntu yourself ?14:07
Hawkerzyep14:07
Georgy12.10 ?14:08
Hawkerzon every computer I use in fact14:08
Hawkerzah, no14:08
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Georgywich version ?14:08
HawkerzI stick to long term support releases generally14:08
Hawkerzso 12.0414:08
GeorgyWhere can i find the 12.04 ?14:08
HawkerzGeorgy, does it boot you into an ubuntu live system? or does it take you to something like this http://andrewtheart.tripod.com/linux/Images/Ubuntu-InstallMenu.jpg14:09
Deathlireon ubuntu.org14:09
gustav_Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601945/ It's standard, I think.14:09
Georgylast one14:09
Hawkerzgustav_, did you just install bumblebee + optirun?14:09
Georgybut more modern version14:09
cfhowlettwww.ubuntu.com14:09
Georgywith different background14:09
gustav_Hawkerz: Ehm... optirun is in bumblebee, I think...14:10
HawkerzGeorgy, so you choose 'install ubuntu' and it goes to a black screen?14:10
Georgyyes14:10
Georgyand i tried14:10
Hawkerzgustav_, do you have primus installed?14:10
Georgynomodeset14:10
gustav_Hawkerz: Yep? It matters?14:10
Deathlireeverything matters :P brb14:10
HawkerzGeorgy, did you try the 'try ubuntu' option?14:10
Georgyyes14:11
Georgytry ubuntu without installing14:11
Hawkerzand had the same experience?14:11
Georgyyes14:11
Hawkerzinteresting....can you tell me the model of the laptop you're on?14:12
gustav_primusrun is broken on this machine.14:12
GeorgyAsus X71SL14:12
GeorgyGeForce 9300M GS14:12
Georgy2.00 ghz14:12
Georgy3gb ram14:12
Hawkerzgustav_, I believe you need Bridge=auto in the optirun section14:12
Hawkerzat least if you have the latest version...14:13
gustav_Hawkerz: Ok. Do I restart bumblebee somehow...?14:14
Hawkerzsudo service bumblebeed restart14:14
gustav_Oops. HoN died. :>14:14
HawkerzHoN? game?14:14
gustav_Yep.14:14
GeorgyHawkerz, any ideas ?14:14
Hawkerzwhat machine are you running? I have the same exact configuration as you14:15
HawkerzGeorgy, probably, I'm looking14:15
gustav_A laptop.14:15
Hawkerzgustav_, make and model would be particularly useful14:15
GeorgyHAwkerz Thanks :D14:15
gustav_Hawkerz: Same problem. Ok. Clevo P150EM.14:15
Hawkerzhmmk. lets see14:15
gustav_I think it's a configuration problem with Steam. Wrong packages.14:16
Hawkerzif you want to try reinstalling steam that's certainly an option14:16
jammsenhi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.14:16
Hawkerzit could easily be any number of fairly common problems with the nvidia/bumblebee setup14:17
gustav_Hawkerz: What's the correct way? apt-get purge steam? I think there's some i386 version installed as well...14:17
gustav_Ah. :/14:17
Hawkerzif you do dpkg -l | grep steam14:17
Hawkerzit will show you all of the isntalled packages14:17
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GranoSalishi14:18
HawkerzGeorgy, here is one suggestion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181422114:18
Hawkerz(last post)14:18
cfhowlettGranoSalis, greetings14:18
Deathlirejammsen : your wine isn't setup correctly is all, Last time iused teamviewer it was 7+ so it's probably wine related try an 'apt-get update wine'14:19
Deathlirein terminal, that is.14:20
GeorgyHawkerz, what am i supposed to do with the codes :( ?14:20
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GranoSaliscfhowlett:  thanks14:21
GeorgyAllright i got solution14:21
Georgylet me try14:21
Georgybrb14:21
HawkerzGeorgy, when your system is first booting up, get into the bios (f2 or something)14:21
GranoSaliscould someone help me with Firefox?14:21
Hawkerz3 minutes of googling for that one14:21
Deathlireyeah download chromium14:21
cfhowlettGranoSalis, details???14:22
Hawkerzgustav_, do you have PMMethod defined in the [driver-nvidia] section of your bumblebee.conf?14:22
GranoSalisDeathlire: i got used to FF14:22
Deathlirewell whats the problem with it?14:22
gustav_Hawkerz: auto.14:22
GranoSaliscfhowlett: how do i change the "icon's" of firefox?14:23
GranoSalisto look more like the ones in windows14:23
joakimwHey guys. I'm having this weird problem with my keyboard layout. After boot its always American English, even though the only language I have added is Danish. If i add any other language and remove it, its turned to Danish. Any way I can make sure it's defaulted to Danish when I boot? Ubuntu 12.1014:23
jammsenDeathlire: i have done that wine version 1.4.114:23
jammsennothing helped14:23
cfhowlettGranoSalis, I think you want to add a windows "theme" from firefox addons ...14:23
Deathlirewell, I'd suggest you use windows, if you want windows. but if you want to change some icons usually a right click on an icon can help you14:23
Hawkerzgustav_, and you are a member of the bumblebee group? from a command prompt run 'groups'14:23
gustav_Hawkerz: Yep.14:24
GranoSaliscfhowlett:  thanks and heres a bigger problem,when i go to ,lets say youtube,and want to use the search bar i dont see the letters i type14:24
Deathlirejammsen : also no problems hen it installed?14:24
cfhowlettGranoSalis, see "windows classic for firefox 18.0.0"14:24
GranoSalisI'm using FF Nightly14:25
jammsenDeathlire: its all up-to-date14:25
cfhowlettGranoSalis, you're on unity I take it?14:25
jammsenbut when you would connect from windows, its white14:25
GranoSaliscfhowlett: nope im on Debian with Awesome14:25
Hawkerzgustav_, you have updated all of this since Bumblebee 3.1 was released?14:26
DeathlireTV doesn't play well with viewing the unix client very well, albeit it usually does a good job, but remember it's all beta..it's main focus is helping windows users14:26
gustav_Hawkerz: Updated what?14:26
cfhowlettGranoSalis, never used debian but I think if you change your desktop environment or display themes ...14:26
Hawkerzbumblebee/primus14:27
Guest56538ok guys i gtg14:27
gustav_Hawkerz: I think it's the only version I've ever used.14:27
hellierHey, does anyone know how to get soundblaster wirelessheaders to connect through bluetooth? :|14:27
Hawkerzgustav_, run 'bumblebeed --version' and tell me what version you're on14:27
hellierwireless head phones*14:27
gustav_3.114:28
Hawkerzokay...is this a new installation for you?14:28
Fuzzlesgustav_, what version14:28
gustav_Hawkerz: Never reinstalled, not new as in new. Maybe 6 months.14:28
Hawkerzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/bumblebee-31-released-with-primus.html <- i'd probably reinstall from the ppa following those instructions14:29
gustav_Fuzzles: 3.1.14:29
gustav_Oh boy. -.-" Headache.14:29
oldude67anyone got a reason why when installing samba4 and its deps. does my ubuntu 12.10 starts crashing before i even use it?14:29
Hawkerzit won't be too bad, feel free to pm if you want help14:30
gustav_Primus has been buggy, I don't like it.14:30
HawkerzI literally just reinstalled mine today14:30
Hawkerzand it works much better14:30
gustav_I got flickering.14:30
Deathlireahh samba.. apt-get update samba*14:30
gustav_Yes, it's faster, but.14:30
Hawkerzhmm, before we go crazy on this one though, what if you run steam without optirun?14:30
calwighi, i have a 20Gb free partition, between 2 other existing ext2 partitions, where linux resides. All ok, except that Im installing Windows in that free partition, and the setup wont let me14:30
calwigHow can I move the 20Gb out of the center of the hard drive and on to the BEG or END of the drive? Gparted will only allow resize, not move14:31
priyalHi all. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and am not able connect to internet vi lan cable.. It always shows me up: "Cable unplugged"14:31
Hawkerzcalwig, the only way to re-order partitions is to rewrite the partition table14:31
priyalPlease help and guide, am badly stuck here14:32
priyalI tried to follow up this documentation : http://askubuntu.com/questions/161482/wired-connection-not-working-ubuntu-12-0414:32
priyalBut it too didn't help14:32
Deathliretry rebooting a few times til it lets you calwig ..or use an old 16/32 bit program like nortons partition magic..or just use the good ol parted or gparted. part magic will move your small partition. but it's better to back it up14:32
gustav_Hawkerz: Works. I remember, but TF2 is too slow to play.14:32
Hawkerzyeah, figures14:32
gustav_You insulting my Intel GPU? :O14:33
Deathlirei'll insult an intel gpu :P14:33
Hawkerzis it the xxxx 4000 or whatever ?14:33
Hawkerzif so, yes14:33
gustav_xD14:33
gustav_Yeah.14:33
Deathlirei insult my own gpu..an radeon 6530hd14:33
calwigHawkerz, oh, rewrite partition tables, how?14:34
priyalpleAse help !14:35
gustav_Probably the 3.1 update that broke everything for me.14:35
priyal I am not able to figure out the problem14:35
Hawkerzbest bet would be to create an image of the partition on the outer part of the drive, then write it to be sequentially after the other partition so you are not sandwiching windows14:36
Hawkerzthough I'm not actually certain you can write windows anywhere but 1st, all my dual boot systems have been that way14:36
Hawkerzgustav_, it's likely, but it's salvageable if you want to make it work14:36
calwigHawkerz, interesting14:37
six2dern new 8Mb cable is suckin14:37
Hawkerzgustav_, I'm interested in the output of sudo lshw -c display14:37
SebusHello. I need some help - trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on my crappy asus a6rp with radeon graphics card and upgraded t2250 cpu - it just crash with random characters on boot or even if it boots up from cd/pendrive to gui, screen starts blinking after several minutes no matter if external screen is connected. how to force lower res on gui boot?14:38
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Hawkerzwhat is with the asus problems today :/14:38
cfhowlettSebus, did you 1. verify the iso with md5sum and 2. check for disk errors at boot?14:38
Deathlireasus is an old problem :P14:39
Sebuscfhowlett: before I used win9x/xp/7 multiboot14:39
Sebusmemtest - no errors14:39
Sebushdat2 - no errors14:39
gustav_Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/14:39
Sebusand yes, images were verified14:39
HawkerzSebus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814221 <- possibly14:40
oldude67well as soon as i uninstall samba4 system stops crashing.14:40
Hawkerzalso did you try booting with nomodeset enabled14:40
calwigDeathlire, so somehow rebooting a few times will allow Vista to install?14:40
Hawkerzcalwig, no, Deathlire is confusing windows and linux14:40
SebusHawkerz: I'll try that, now i'm sitting on other terminal machine, hard to use links14:40
Deathlirewell sometimes it does, for win7 ultimate..not sure about vista..14:41
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Deathlireactually had that problem the other day when someone refused to format their c: drive ..t didn't want to do anything but finally it did..and i told them good luck lol..14:42
Hawkerzgustav_, you have nearly the same configuration of hardware as me14:42
HawkerzI will paste my configuration14:42
avi143Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..14:43
Deathlireit's always good to do a really nice 24 hour format of your drives before installing any Os..of course normal formatting does well, but doesn't get to all the problem areas (ex. dban boot n nuke)14:44
gustav_Hawkerz: What should I do now exactly? Reinstall bumblebee? That can go horribly wrong. xC14:44
Hawkerznah, give me a second and I'll give you a good set of instructions14:44
gustav_Alrighty.14:45
calwigi see14:46
Hawkerzgustav_, one thing that'd be helpful would be to know which ppa's you have enabled14:47
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avi143(avi143) Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..214:48
Deathlirelinux.org14:48
compdocgoogle14:49
Deathlireor man pages within to learn bash14:49
Deathlireyep google is your friend :P14:49
Mcmxcman pages is difficult to read..14:49
kurteknikkHi, anybody knows of any issue with  logrotate and mysql ? My issue is that the the user exists and it has the correct password but i still get: error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '14:50
kurteknikkrun-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 114:50
gustav_Hawkerz: source.list.d dir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602060/14:50
Hawkerzoh14:50
Hawkerzxorg edgers eh? did you install the experimental nvidia driver?14:50
Deathliredo 92.14:51
gustav_Hm, I don't think so... I'm using 313...something.14:51
Deathlireif your using an intel gpu..try the old version it's like 9x something14:51
avi143Linux.org is aweaome14:51
gustav_313.09.14:52
avi143Thanku14:52
Hawkerzgustav_, that's certainly a potential issue, since the driver may be called something else when it runs14:52
gustav_Deathlire: Me? It doesn't support my GPU, I think.14:52
gustav_Hawkerz: o_O14:52
Deathlirei never could get my other comp with an intel to use the experimental driver14:52
gustav_I don't know how anything of this works.14:53
Deathlirebut that was on an older version of Xorg and even ubuntu actually..it just seemed like anything newer would kill it no matter the distro was a P4 based14:54
Deathlirewas like an Intel 85* based gpu or 87*14:54
Hawkerzgustav_, run:  'vblank_mode=0 optirun glxspheres' -- let it run for a few seconds, kill the window it ambushes you with, and pastebin the output of the run as well as the output of 'dmesg | grep -i nvidia'14:54
Hawkerz(but the dmesg output only is useful after you do the optirun'14:55
Deathlirei'll stay out of this convo seems Hawkerz has it down..14:55
gustav_It looks good.14:56
gustav_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602076/14:56
Hawkerzgustav_, and my only other question is whether you had primus installed before -- if you installed 6 months ago, you likely did have primus installed... the output of apt-cache showpkg primus14:57
Hawkerzyour card puts mine to shame14:58
gustav_Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602080/ Yep.14:58
Hawkerzi guess i should upgrade my drivers14:58
gustav_I got 304 with primusrun, but primusrun doesn't seem to work in practice with real applications.14:59
gustav_It flickers.15:00
Hawkerzgustav_, I had the exact same setup and I upgraded today15:00
gustav_Ok...15:00
gustav_And your steam works?15:00
Hawkerzgustav_, sudo apt-get purge primus && sudo ppa-purge ppa:zhurikhin/primus15:00
gustav_:O15:00
Hawkerzyou may need an apt-get update somewhere in there15:00
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gustav_Done.15:01
gustav_Trying optirun steam.15:01
gustav_Same problem.15:02
Hawkerztechnically after you do the purge, you should sudo apt-get install primus primus-libs-ia32:i38615:02
gustav_Ok.15:03
Hawkerzgustav_, you just deleted primus, reinstalled it, and now need to set your config properly15:03
alainushow do i run a program from a console without it outputting to it? I'm using "$ commandname &" right now... but it's not exactly it (it still outputs when opened/closed, and opens a second window of the program)15:03
Deathliretry && if on a shell?15:04
POVaddctalainus: you want the console output of the command suppressed? redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null: "$ commandname >/dev/null 2>&1 &"15:05
Hawkerzgustav_, and then use something like this for config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602111/15:06
Vegombreihi .. currently on ntfs partition windows 7 gonna install ubuntu, so correct me if im wrong, i can simply download the 64bit ubuntu and install and allocate the space when it comes up etc, does it also do the bootloader and give me the option to boot from windows?15:06
HawkerzVegombrei, yes, that is all handled automatically15:07
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Hawkerzthe modern ubuntu installation requires almost no work at all (unless you are on an asus laptop apparently)15:07
Deathlirenice how the new versions use native ntfs like that..15:07
VegombreiHawkerz: so i dont have to get that windows installer one right?15:07
Hawkerzi would strongly advise against using wubi15:07
Loki_Greetings.15:07
VegombreiHawkerz: i cant get the one i can put on a usb and install15:08
bau-hi all, I have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 64bit but can't burn it on a 700mb (80 min) cd from windows 7, it says it's not enough space, why?15:08
HawkerzVegombrei, but you can get an iso and burn it, no?15:08
Loki_How can I choose between environments in text mode?15:08
Deathlirein all my time..always mattered when ya installed any os, and had to format or delete a partition just to use things15:08
HawkerzLoki_, which environments?15:09
Hawkerzbau-, are you attempting to burn it as a disk image?15:09
VegombreiHawkerz: frighin grandma used up all the blank dvds its too cold to venture out dude15:09
Loki_For example: startx KDE -  startx gnome15:09
HawkerzVegombrei, so you have no dvd's and you have no usb sticks?15:09
bau-Hawkerz, yes, I'm using cd burner xp and burning as a disk image15:09
Deathlireanybody know if enlightenment is ever being updated? i'm gonna guess no15:09
VegombreiHawkerz: i have plenty of usb sticks15:10
HawkerzLoki_, why are you trying to start x window servers from the console?15:10
HawkerzVegombrei, so you can install from there right?15:10
Loki_Hawkerz: Later I have installed ubuntu desktop in my backtrack, without see it, My O.S. became ubuntu LL.15:10
Loki_Hawkerz: My system is backtrack.. based on ubuntu..15:11
Loki_look my earlier message please...15:11
Deathlirebacktrack is based on debian eh..but uses some thngs from ubu15:11
Hawkerzah...and you want to have control over which desktop environment starts up15:11
Deathlirei know quite a bit about bt eh15:11
Hawkerzwhen I had to worry about that I just threw it in .xinitrc I think15:11
LaiquendiGuys, anybody can answer me some nooby questions about ubuntu for smartphones?15:11
Hawkerzunlikely15:12
Hawkerzi'm not even sure if its out yet?15:12
Laiquendiyeah this is one of those questions...15:12
VegombreiHawkerz: yeah but back to my question, i donno what to download ... apparently there are three of them ... one that is a windows installer one thats the standard (my preference) and then theres this one LTS or something .... which do i download onto my usb stick?15:12
Laiquendii can't get straight answer from the internet15:12
Deathlireubuntu isn't out for arm completely..you can do some mods to use it on a droid though15:12
xangua!phone | Laiquendi15:13
ubottuLaiquendi: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch15:13
Laiquendithanks15:13
Deathliredepends on your phones total memory and cpu power though15:13
HawkerzVegombrei, there are a couple of options -- you have really two different releases to choose from -- 12.04 which is long term support, and 12.10 which includes a bit more on the feature side but imo is also a bit buggier15:13
Loki_Hawkerz: Can you, please, tell me how can I choose between KDE and Gnome in the text mode?15:13
IvelfanFrBonjour/Hello15:13
Loki_Or anybody? How can I choose between environments in text mode?15:14
HawkerzVegombrei, after you figure that out, you have 3 download options -- Wubi installer, CD/DVD, or USB.15:14
Deathlireit's a passion of mine to flash the androids and such..can even run a version of windows CE on them15:14
HawkerzVegombrei, but Wubi is not a 'real' ubuntu install for all intents and purposes.  It is ridiculously easy to use, but it isn't so easy to move your stuff into a proper installation if you ever decide you're sick of being tied to windows15:15
IvelfanFrI have a problem with my new computer. When I start my computer on Ubuntu 12.04, when I launch Firefox, all software have a freeze.15:15
VegombreiHawkerz: ok so im downloading 12.10, ill install it from usb, will it gimme the option to boot from windows when i need windows ,15:15
HawkerzVegombrei, of course installing ubuntu to the MBR has it's own challenges if you decide later you want to remove it and keep windows15:15
Hawkerzyes, it will give you a selection menu and i think 10 seconds by default to navigate (probably will boot linux by default unless you change it)15:16
Deathlireif you install it..grub should automatically place it within the boot menu..if not you can run a command and make it work15:16
Hawkerzgrub will do it, for sure15:16
Deathliredon't tell me they replaced grub recently?15:16
VegombreiHawkerz: ok great, i prefer ubuntu .. but i have certain stuff like cameras etc that have windows software so occasionally i need windows15:17
Hawkerzwell grub2...works pretty well15:17
ferronicaNeed help regarding NDISWrapper with WG311 V3 WLAN15:17
billkdDeathlire: They use grub2 at least on my raring box.15:17
Deathlirewell Vegombrei : in console type 'apt-get install wine*'15:17
HawkerzVegombrei, okay, so just um, don't wipe your ubuntu partition later, or, not without rebuilding the windows master boot record15:17
Hawkerzmeh15:17
Hawkerzwine isn't nearly that good15:17
billkdferronica: Are you sure you need ndiswrapper? Try native drivers first.15:17
IvelfanFrSomeone can help me, I don't why Firefox have a freeze.15:17
Deathlirewell grub21 is stil grub..a lil different but still uses the same conf at least15:17
Hawkerzfor real time streaming video i wouldn't want to be fighting with wine15:18
HawkerzDeathlire, enlightenment was updated btw15:18
Hawkerzthis year15:18
VegombreiHawkerz: i understand15:18
Loki_Hawkerz: Hello - oo15:18
ferronicabillkd, for Netgear WG311V315:18
HawkerzLoki_, hi, I don't know, I don't use gnome or kde anymore and I'm not sure if they are invoked the same way15:18
ferronicabillkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 34bit15:18
ferronicabillkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit15:18
Deathlirehaha nice..i used to use enlightenment back when i had like mandrake 7 installed many years ago :P15:19
Hawkerzplease don't spam, ferronica15:19
Hawkerztry jockey-gtk for proprietary drivers15:19
ferronicaHawkerz, Oh Sorry15:19
Deathlireif you can't get a driver for it..you can actually modprobe it15:19
Hawkerzferronica, it that is -- 'additional drivers'15:20
Deathlireshould be able to anyways..i always had to with my pci trendnet for some reason15:20
ferronicaDeathlire, how im new in linux15:20
Hawkerzyou can go to the dash and look for it or I believe it's in system settings as well15:20
ferronicaHawkerz, no15:20
Hawkerzjust click on the top left button on the launcher and type 'additional drivers' ...15:20
Hawkerzis this for a network card or a router?15:20
ferronicaHawkerz, For WLAN Card Driver WG311 V315:21
Deathlireif your new to linux then i'd suggest heeding to Hawkerz suggestions..and if it just won't work i may have a fix15:21
billkdferronica: Any reason for using an LTS? They are usually made for large scale deployments not end users. Try upgrading to 12.10.15:21
Deathlireuhh cause its long term Support...15:21
ferronicabillkd, same problem with 12.1015:21
Hawkerzeh, billkd, would you give me the same advice? can you promise it won't be, in point of fact, signing me up for an afternoon of recovery?15:22
ferronicaDeathlire, yes15:22
billkdferronica: When you installe did you check the "install nonfree software" box?15:22
billkdferronica: I think that includes some wifi drivers15:22
ferronicabillkd, yes i did15:22
Hawkerzgustav_, any luck?15:22
billkdWhat is the manufacturer and model number of your wireless device?15:22
Hawkerzferronica, more information about your system would be helpful -- sudo lshw -c net15:23
DeathlireI'm gonna take a guess and say this is an older belkin wifi stick?15:23
ferronicabillkd, right now im using NDISWrapper and WLAN working fine for now if i reboot again it wont work15:23
gustav_Hawkerz: Testing things. Steam TF2 & Dwarfs F2P works great with primusrun.15:23
Hawkerzpost the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15:23
Hawkerzsweet15:23
Deathlireahh you need a script then to work on booting then15:23
billkdferronica: Do you have to run a command or something to keep it working? Never used ndiswrapper so wouldn't know.15:23
gustav_No flickering in Ho15:23
Deathlirethat way you don't have to type it all back out15:23
Hawkerzgustav_, I have not actually tried combining optirun with the new primus bridge thing15:23
gustav_in HoN, yet.15:23
Hawkerzbut i'm glad it works!15:24
ferronicabillkd, just downloaded NDIS from Software center15:24
DeathlireI've used ndiswrapper plenty it worked well but i needed to have it cron'ed though15:24
Hawkerzferronica, did you configure it from the command line or did you do it from a gui15:24
Deathlirebrb i'll look up my old info for my driver..it should be almost the same for you15:24
ferronicaif you know and want to check config take teamviewer15:24
ferronicaHawkerz, From GUI15:25
gustav_Hawkerz: This is glxspheres, prepare to weep. :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602173/15:25
ferronicaHawkerz, Im new in Linux world15:25
Hawkerz!!!!!15:25
Deathlireuhmm..how did you do anything with ndiswrapper from gui? ok...15:25
ferronicaHawkerz, take TeamViewer15:25
Hawkerzferronica, no worries15:25
Hawkerzi'll find what you need15:25
HawkerzDeathlire, there's some gui client, i could never figure it out15:25
gustav_I don't think it's max, even. Because there is some pesky energy saving thing that's throttling the CPU.15:25
Deathlireholdon a sec..brb..i'll give you the info to keep it working from the way it is.15:25
IvelfanFrAll my screen freeze when i launch firefox >.<15:26
Deathlirethe gui client doesn't do it right is all i'm sayin from the wrapper15:26
gustav_Hawkerz: I'm trying to change bridge...15:26
Hawkerz203.466722 frames/sec - 227.068862 Mpixels/sec <- when I run it properly15:27
HawkerzI'm not even sure what the bridge options are15:27
gustav_Hawkerz: Not bad.15:27
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gustav_Hawkerz: I thought primusrun was an option. It was not.15:28
Hawkerzferronica, this might be helpful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76313/how-to-keep-ndiswrapper-configuration-after-reboot15:28
Hawkerzhere, the correct syntax is apparently this:15:28
Deathlirehmm actually all i have are drivers for it..and a bunch of other things but not the text explaining how to do it anymore..and no the drivers aren't for your card..hmm15:28
Hawkerzgustav_, hawk@hurin ~ » optirun -b primus glxspheres15:29
gustav_Hawkerz: Works.15:29
Hawkerzthough when you are testing from a vte you should run it with vblank_mode=015:29
gustav_vblank_mode can be set to default to 0, I think.15:30
DeathlireI went and bought a card that would run native with linux the good ol rt2500 or linksys wrt54gusb15:30
gustav_TF 2 lags if it's not 0.15:30
holmeschi15:30
gustav_Hawkerz: Thanks A LOT for helping me, though. I have had a hard time getting this to work, getting the thumb out of the behind so to speak. So thanks.15:31
Hawkerzgustav_, trust me, having spent literally full days trying to get graphics working in the past, I am always happy to help if I can15:32
gustav_Hawkerz: :)15:32
Hawkerzfortunately for you I have the same exact hardware configuration and literally just finished doing the same exact thing15:32
gustav_Bumblebee is a new bag for me.15:32
gustav_xD15:32
HawkerzI was definitely unimpressed with primusrun as a replacement for optirun before but this configuration seems to do its job15:32
Deathliregpu is a pain sometimes..spent many nights myself a bit back especially when they didn't have total support for my cards..15:33
gustav_Hawkerz: ...why? You just have to change the command, right? Firefox is the only thing I have configured (in WindowMaker) to launch with optirun.15:33
Hawkerzgustav_, I think primusrun was not being switched properly or something...I tried to run firefox and my computer just overheated all the time15:35
Hawkerzand ran slow...but again, these things are so kind of arcane and mystical that who knows what the reason was15:35
Hawkerzanyway, as far as I'm concerned it's a miracle that this is the problem I have now...I had quite a struggle with a dell mini 10 and the GMA500/Poulsbo card15:36
Deathlireget a desktop :P15:36
Deathlirelol15:36
m4rtinsHello! I'm new to Ubuntu and have a problem. The wifi seems much slower and a bit more instable on Ubuntu 12.10 than on macosx, i have a dual-boot install on my macbook air.15:37
Deathlireif ya got a laptop don't expect total control..or some pentesting with bt15:37
NachoPonchoHey, I've been trying to get a straight answer from Google to no avail, but does Ubuntu for Android effectively run all Ubuntu apps *without* docking?15:37
DeathlireSorry, I can't help with mac/apple probs..never will use one eh15:38
NachoPoncho^15:38
DeathlireNachoPoncho depends on your cpu and ram really when it comes to android..what apps do you want to run..really?15:39
NachoPonchoI was wondering if ubuntu for android allowed mobile access to the repos for the respective architecture15:40
NachoPonchoFor example, would I be able to use the ARM port of Gimp etc. without docking?15:40
DeathlireI'm sure it would, but I'd consider it being a bit slower on upgrading since it''s using the ARM arch15:40
HawkerzDeathlire, I have a desktop -- several15:40
whoamiany free VPS..?15:41
NachoPonchoI'm trying to decide if I want to wait for the Ubuntu phone or settle for and Android with Ubuntu running on it15:41
Hawkerzyes15:41
gustav_Hawkerz: Exactly. I just gave up. I tried asking the actual primus people and they just naaw, there's no problem.15:41
Deathlirewhy would ya use gimp persay on an android eh?15:41
Hawkerzwhoami, you can have all the free VPS you want, you just need to supply the hardware and configure it with the free software the ubuntu community supplies you with15:41
Hawkerzgustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602224/15:41
llutz!phone | NachoPoncho15:41
ubottuNachoPoncho: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch15:41
Hawkerzseems to be what it's supposed to look like15:41
whoamiok thanks15:42
HawkerzI guess the drivers have gotten that much better since 3.04...could be worth pursuing15:42
NachoPonchoThe Gimp was just an example, but I currently have a Nokia N90015:42
gustav_Hawkerz: You have a bit too close to my performance for sanity. I have the top-of-the-line 680M.15:42
Deathlirethe only real application for androids so far seems to be modding droids to use ubu running backtrack so far...with very limited support15:42
NachoPonchoI like it because of the amount of freedom I have to mess with my phone, although Nokia stopped supporting it15:43
Hawkerzsure, I can match you when I'm only running xchat and a web browser and neither of them on my nvidia card :p15:43
Deathlirethe N900 is actually perfect for ubu..from what i've read15:43
gustav_Hawkerz: Sure hope so! :P15:43
NachoPonchoI figure it's time for a new phone, and I was looking into Ubuntu for phones, since I use Lubuntu on my laptop15:43
NachoPonchoThe N900 only overclocks it's single core to around 1150 Mhz :c15:44
Hawkerzgustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602230/15:44
gustav_Hawkerz: OMG! I see your password! jk, jk.15:44
Deathlirethey are great for say wardriving thats about it..not sure on actual uhmm say GiMP type stuff15:45
NachoPonchoEasyDebian runs nicely in chroot, though. And it can use Gimp/OpenOffice, so I bet Ubuntu touch could15:45
gustav_Hawkerz: Is that clock really true? 33 MHz?15:45
jigalhi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping 8.8.8.8 any idea's?15:45
Hawkerzno idea gustav15:45
NachoPonchoN900s? They're great for everything!! haha15:45
Deathlirewell who in their right mind would want to use a paint prog on a small screen? :P15:46
zimzum77wht happening, I'm looking  for a bandwidth eq for my ubuntu and sugg. ??15:46
NachoPonchoI haven't heard the term "wardriving" in aeons, though. That made me smile.15:46
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NachoPonchoTrue. I can't make much out of Gimp on even bigger screens.15:46
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Deathlirei still do some WD'ing NachoPoncho ..lol15:46
Hawkerzgustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/ <- that was yours, also shows 33mhz15:46
NachoPonchobut there are some apps that I like that aren't usually available in standard repos.15:47
Deathlireever heard of wget and make? :P15:47
gustav_Hawkerz: Yep, I know. Aren't these cards PCI Express? Doesn't matter much but I hate false data.15:47
NachoPonchoDeathlire: lol15:47
levo i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?15:48
levo i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?15:48
NachoPonchoYeah. I just mean: Android may have Angry birds, and apps for Pandora15:48
NachoPonchobut does it have wireshark, nmap, gnu userland, etc?15:48
Deathlirelevo..read up on UnrealIRCd if your going to use or host one..since your probably using that.15:48
Hawkerzgustav_, well, the kernel only talks so much to the nvidia card I guess...15:48
NachoPonchoI guess I just like using familiar apps.15:48
Deathlireyes shark is there..not much of a screen to output to though15:49
Hawkerzlevo, why doesn't he just connect to your wireless network15:49
Hawkerzlevo, that would be much more straightforward than trying to establish an ad-hoc network just to talk to the person sitting next to you15:49
levowe want to chat15:49
levowithout internet access15:49
Hawkerzdid you consider having an actual conversation?15:49
Deathlirelol15:50
levoHawkerz: we are not in the same floor15:50
jigalhi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping 8.8.8.8 any idea's? How should i configure my network connection?15:50
Deathlirebest thing i've heard in awhile..15:50
levowe need to be in contact15:50
Deathlirerun a cable levo15:50
Hawkerzlevo, but you are close enough to form an ad-hoc network?15:50
Hawkerzis your friend a romantic interest?15:50
levois it supposed to be a therapy support channel?15:50
Deathlirehey now i've seen ad-hocs that run over a mile or two..so eh..not sure what ya talkin :P15:51
Hawkerzno, but if you're doing it for romance I'm way more interested in helping15:51
levocan't you just answer?15:51
HawkerzIRC I am quite proficient at, but ad-hoc networking i have no experience with, so I'd have to read about it to help you15:51
Hawkerzso you see the math...15:51
levowhat i'm trying to do is making an irc server in a library for answerning readers question without making noise. capipsh?15:52
Hawkerznot really, since that doesn't demand ad-hoc networking15:52
Deathliresounds like you are telling us a lie..but also you can do this but are you using a computer..or a phone..?15:52
levoso there's no place for wiring.15:52
levodamn15:52
levoi'm on my laptop, ubuntu precise15:53
Hawkerzin fact I'm pretty sure an ad-hoc network would be counterproductive to the goal of fielding a bunch of inquiries15:53
Hawkerzwhy did you decide to go with irc anyway?15:53
levoit allows multiple connections for chatters15:53
Deathliresounds like they want a fake network to be wirelessly transmitted to get incoming data and sent back..to me15:53
Deathliread-hoc is only one connection..or am I just presuming to much?15:54
levodo you have any better idea? me: ubuntu , guy: windows 7. we want to chat in library. distance: 3 to 20 meters.15:54
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Deathlireinstall skype beta..have other person install skype windows flavor..chat15:55
Deathlireor yahoo..or whatever15:55
levoDeathlire: no internet access15:55
Hawkerzin a library? really?15:55
Deathlireahh use lan messenger..then15:55
wtfmanuse a lan chat app15:55
levoDeathlire: where are you from?15:55
Deathlirewine it on nix..other person can use windows version15:56
Hawkerzbut yeah, IRC is massively overkill for this15:56
HawkerzI've been on small IRC servers but never ones consisting of just 2 people15:56
levoHawkerz: how?15:56
Deathlirei'm from SC..that enough for ya?15:56
Hawkerzlevo, all the IRC servers I know of are designed to manage thousands of simultaneous connections, they are very complex pieces of software15:57
levoHawkerz: i installed irc-hybrid server.15:57
billkdhow about netcat?15:57
Hawkerzsure, I'm not saying it won't work -- though I don't really see what the trouble is then if the server is running and you got the ad hoc stuff down15:58
Deathlireand some reason i have 10 of those servers..dedicated since about 2000 to the same 10 ppl..keep trying to increase ppl but never works for some reason..plus i never cared if it did15:58
levowhat's the maximum distance ad-hoc can support?15:58
Hawkerzdepends on the strength of your respective wireless cards15:58
Deathlireuhmm about well depends on your antenna gain really..well mostly15:59
Hawkerzif one of you is running ubuntu you probably want to disable laptop mode and all that15:59
iorianetcat is good, also linpopup, but you have to compile it15:59
wtfmanwhat is laptop mode ?15:59
Deathlireeven my android gets a signal out over ad-hoc about 40 feet15:59
Hawkerzor, more specifically, don't let your wireless card fall into powersave mode15:59
levoso what the windows guy should do to connect to my irc server?15:59
levo(ad-hoc wifi016:00
Hawkerzget an irc client and type in whatevery ou type in to address the other party in an ad hoc network16:00
Deathlirerun say xchat2..or mirc and connect to it16:00
Hawkerzlol16:00
levoi enter 127.0.0.116:00
levobut what he should enter for the server/16:00
levo?16:00
Deathlirerun mirc.. then /server localhost 666716:00
iorialevo: your IP16:00
Hawkerzoh, levo, seems like you can assign yourself an IP16:01
Deathlirealso depends if he has the right listening ip in the conf which i doubt is.16:01
Hawkerzif you're in ubuntu though you can just ifconfig and find it out at the time16:01
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levosorry to ask but how i can determine what my IP is when i'm not connected to the internet/16:01
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Deathlirewhatismyip.org16:01
wtfmanif he is not connected *16:02
Hawkerzwell if you have an established network connection, levo, you can go to a terminal and run 'ifconfig'16:02
Deathlireor ifconfig16:02
Deathlireworks wonders16:02
iorialevo: your IP does not related to Internet16:02
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Hawkerzno idea, maybe you can make an ad-hoc loopback network for testing purposes16:02
iorialevo: your IP it's not  related to Internet16:02
Loki_What is the command to access the kubuntu via terminal? startx?16:02
Hawkerzalternatively you can assign yourself a static ip16:02
Hawkerz^ recommended16:02
Deathliremost likely if they don't have net for some reason..it's probably going to block you on port 6667..so use port 5900 as a listening port16:02
Hawkerzand make sure you use that as the bind address of the irc server16:02
HawkerzDeathlire, ad hoc network16:03
Hawkerzno rules16:03
juvaniLoki_: startkde16:03
wtfmanGuys, does anyone knows how to tunnel IPv6 traffic using IPv4 network ?16:03
Loki_juvani: Thank you.16:03
Deathliread-hoc directly binds so it should be a simple task..how the hell ya even binding ad-hoc really or even why is my real question16:03
Hawkerzwell, I can think of lots of reasons, and the air of mysteriousness made me want to help16:04
Loki_juvani: Can I choose between environments too? For example: startgnome16:04
HawkerzLoki_, yes, nobody is forcing you to start kde16:04
HawkerzLoki_, it helps if you have gnome installed as well as kde though if you want to run it16:04
levoDeathlire, Hawkerz: ioria: so this is what should we do (correct if i'm wrong): i create an ad-hoc , windows guy connects to it. he runs hexchat and enters: /server x.x.x.x which is my IP. then every thing goes well. right?16:04
juvaniLoki_: genome-session for genome16:04
Loki_Hawkerz: So the command is the right: startgnome -- startkde16:04
zimzum77how does one copy and paste a command line in terminl, I try with mouse but no luck16:05
Deathlireyeah its got my mind going nuts..on why someone and how someone can make an ad-hoc network that well they want to talk over and they can't..itshould be easy16:05
levoany firefall thing may happen?16:05
Hawkerzlevo, do you have a firewall running?16:05
Deathlirectrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste16:05
Loki_got it.16:05
levoHawkerz: idk16:05
iorialevo: Let's give it a try16:05
Hawkerzzimzum77, are you in an actual console, or in a windowed emulator?16:05
zimzum77Hawkerz,     xterm16:06
Hawkerzcan't you just highlight with the mouse?16:06
Deathlirectrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste16:06
iorialevo: but in my advice it's better a messanger client16:06
gustav_Now, if only the Steam client would stop being so sucky...16:06
levoioria: what?16:07
gustav_Can't even drag the window.16:07
zimzum77i can highlight but no copy pasta16:07
iorialevo: it's like the sms on your phone16:07
Hawkerzzimzum77, you should use a different VTE16:07
Hawkerzzimzum77, I suggest gnome-terminal16:07
Hawkerzor whatever the KDE one is16:07
zimzum77but i'll try cntr option16:07
Deathlireuse a Vicks :P16:07
Hawkerzit doesn't work, zimzum7716:07
zimzum77gnome term eh?/16:08
Deathlire./gnome-terminal16:08
Hawkerzgustav_, i'm not entirely sure about the complexities involved in the process of modeswitching16:08
Hawkerzit's probably worth hanging around their irc channel actually...they're on here right?16:08
levoDeathlire: isn't possible to more than one laptop connects to my wi-wi connection?16:09
Deathlireno, you can only have One connection per ad-hoc mode16:09
levoisn't any other connection type that supports multi connections?16:10
Deathliresounds like you need to just have them connect to whatever you are connecting to, and then finding out your private ip's then cnnect to each other over irc16:10
levoDeathlire: i didn't get what you mean16:11
Hawkerztheoretically it makes no sense that you should be limited to one connection16:11
Deathlireit requires walking to the other people and telling them your ip and how to connect to you..like say example: /server 192.168.1.42 666716:11
Hawkerzbut I really don't actually know much about it because I have never attempted to establish an ad-hoc network16:12
levoso it's not impossible for others to connect to my local irc server via wireless16:12
Deathlirewell ad-hoc is just one connection to just one other computer..thats why it's called what it is :P16:12
Deathlireno as long as they are connected to the same network..or ssid your on16:13
bizhanMonaHI all, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my system for the first time. Then I typed "sudo apt-get update" and I got the following errors:  pastebin.com/T3NffkT4   any idea please? thanks16:13
levoDeathlire: you mean it's possible, right?  (cause i said : so it's not IMpossible for others )16:14
Deathlireyes brb16:14
jirido3;3~16:15
Deathlirejust have everyone connect to the same wifi you are connecting to..if you have one right?16:17
stercorI have a bunch of 3.5", 1.44Mb discs. There are disk drives aplenty.  My question is whether Ubuntu supports them (drivers)16:17
Hawkerzyep16:17
Deathlireahh yes unfortunately they actually do :P16:17
HawkerzI just finished installing a fresh copy of msdos 6.22 from original floppy images16:17
Deathlireand they are disks :P16:17
levoDeathlire: yes, my laptop is the other connecting to16:17
Hawkerzstercor, remember, imz = img zipped, you can literally just unzip it16:18
stercor?16:18
BesatniasHello, chatters.16:19
Deathlireif its only your computer and there is no wifi to connect to, then you will unfortunately have to just do ad-hoc without a router. which means only one person can connect16:19
stercorWhere would the .imz file be and how would it be named?16:19
_cronus_Deathlire, iirc you can connect multiple computers on an ad-hoc network16:19
Besatniasdo you know of a tool to find appropriate drivers for my computer?16:19
levo_cronus_: really?16:20
Deathlireand once you open up a terminal..which if you have already figured out a way to ad-hoc it means you have knowledge of how to install and run dhcp2-server and it's conf's..so i'm beyond your help16:20
Deathliremultiple if wired _cronus_16:21
Deathlireand also depends on the chipset of the wifi in question16:21
david__hello16:21
levobrb16:22
levowanna test irc win connect16:22
david__I need your help on LVM. I reduced a logical device without the flag -r, so the filesystem has not been shrinked. How can I fix this ?16:22
afflicto-laptopDoes anyone know of an app suitable for pixel art?16:22
_cronus_Deathlire, that's strange. i remember i used it before i got my asus portable ap16:22
Deathlirepixel or ansi/ascii?16:23
bizhanMonaHI all, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my system for the first time. Then I typed "sudo apt-get update" and I got the following errors:  pastebin.com/T3NffkT4   any idea please? thanks16:23
stercorWhat I'd like to hear is: "That's a dumb question.  Of course they are. Have been for years."16:23
Deathlirewhat kind of wifi repeater chip did it have _cronus_ ? :P16:23
_cronus_Deathlire, can't remember it used atheros driver for sure16:24
Deathlireahh atheros..one of the best tools in my profession haha16:24
Kryilhey guys. I could need some help with xrandr. It seems that I'm to dumb to use --rmmode to delete wrong modes, as I can't find the names (xrandr only lists the modes, but not their names). Could someone give me a quick hint where to find them?16:26
antoniusI need to access a HFS+ drive, but am having troubles with permissions.  I even changed my uid.  Whats the best solution for this?  I have nearly 2 terabytes of data, and need to at least read hfs+16:27
HawkerzKryil, why do you need to delete modes?16:27
Deathliresudo is your friend16:27
Hawkerzantonius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166095816:28
KryilHawkerz: I'm using a DVI->VGA adapter. My machine is unable to detect the proper resolution of my monitor now.16:28
HawkerzKryil, you still shouldn't need to delete modes16:28
petesterare there any reports of the latest security update breaking people's wifi?16:28
Deathlireset it manually in the xorg conf eh16:28
petesteri'm on a macbook pro 5,5 and I've reinstalled twice with the same bug16:28
Hawkerzpetester, are you installing in bootcamp? virtual machine? what16:29
Deathlirei broke your wifi..i am here..i am quiet..i am your vengeance :P16:29
levoDeathlire: i entered my ad-hoc ip in /server x.x.x.x  result: connection refused16:29
petesterhawkerz I wiped the laptop and I'm doing single-boot ubuntu16:30
levoDeathlire: and windows guy couldn't even connect to the ad-hoc network!16:30
Deathlirelevo if your using say xchat since your nix.. try /connect xxxx 666716:30
Hawkerzlevo, you need to edit the configuration file for hybridircd and set the bind host to your ip address16:30
KryilHawkerz: It seems that after graphic driver updates I always run into the issue of getting the wrong resolution (something, my monitor can't display). In addition, although only the proper resolution is in xorg.conf, even the wrong ones are listet (and somehow are used after resuming the machine)16:30
Hawkerzpetester, you are the first person I've heard that from16:30
m2khello everyone16:31
Hawkerzpetester, http://paste.ubuntu.com -- hmmm are you on ubuntu now?16:31
Hawkerzif so, please share the output from sudo lshw -c net16:31
petesterHawkerz yes, I plugged into the ethernet16:31
Deathliredo the editing on conf..bind to your ip addy which is probably 192.168.x.x or 10.10.x.x and then rehash the server16:31
m2kguys i have a problem16:32
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Hawkerzprolly need to restart it actually, sudo service hybrid-ircd restart (where hybrid-ircd is whatever it's really called)16:32
levoHawkerz: what about the user = "*@127.0.0.1" ? should it be change so?16:32
HawkerzKryil, I have had the same problem as you, let me see if I still have the script I was using16:32
Deathlirewell yeah i'm not familiar with hybrid i don't use it..i use unreal..which is an easy ./unreal rehash16:33
Hawkerzlevo, user="*@*"16:33
m2kwhen ever i tri to boot up i get a red splash screen however if i boot up using recovery mode and then resume system it works... anyway know why this is?16:33
HawkerzI've never used hybrid either but I can't imagine it's too difficult16:33
KryilHawkerz, thanks. Did your problem include wrong resolutions after logging back in (not logged of, just a locked screen)?16:33
Deathlireuser = "*"16:34
Hawkerzm2k: without logs it will be very hard to diagnose -- the output of dmesg would be a good place to start16:34
petesterHawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602378/16:34
KryilApart from that, I should simply buy a DVI cable for the future ~.~16:34
HawkerzKryil, depending on your hardware, it may not actually solve the problem :p16:35
petesterHawkerz, also I don't know if this is relevant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602383/16:35
Hawkerzpetester, did you install the broadcom drivers ?16:35
Deathliremy system actually uses dvi's.. 2 of them actually..and i have them both adapted to hdmi..which kills color output..but seems ok16:35
petesterHawkerz yes.  Software Sources says that I'm using the proprietary ones right now.16:36
KryilHawkerz: With my old graphics card this never happened. The monitor sent the correct resolutions. My new one has no VGA output and uses the adapter. That's why I thought that's the issue16:36
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m2kHawkerz where can i find the logs? all i can really do is take a video nothing else it wont even get to the login screen16:36
Hawkerzhmmk16:37
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Hawkerzin reverse order, m2k: the logs should still be saved to the disk (/var/log/dmesg.1 will be the dmesg from the previous boot, for instance)16:37
HawkerzKryil, older grahpics cards are better at communicating EDID over vga than newer cards16:38
Hawkerzand petester, I'm going to need a second to figure yours out16:38
petesterHawkerz ok, thanks.  You should set up a paypal so people can tip you for your efforts!16:38
Hawkerzpetester, I just don't like people struggling with something that can be fixed pretty easily16:41
Hawkerzhaving done a lot of that myself16:41
lukehi guys16:43
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Hawkerzpetester, lsmod | grep bcm16:43
Deathlireand the countless ppl who say bye to linux when they just can't get graphics to work right or something to compile like it should...killing them from using it..16:44
ghost_how every one16:44
Guest69730what do you think is a better vpn securityvpn or express vpn? does anyone know?16:44
petesterHawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602417/16:45
Deathlireprobably security..express is usually a term for newbs16:45
SolarisBoynever heard of either16:45
Hawkerzpetester, also, apparently you need to blacklist 'b43' and 'ssb': http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784460&p=10948641#post1094864116:45
SolarisBoyopenvpn vpnc and they have that open-connect client16:46
chaoxhey16:46
chaoxis chromium-dev completely broken or usable?16:46
Deathliredepends on how they market the vpn..i guess16:46
Hawkerzi expect it is usable chaox or they wouldn't distribute it16:47
Guest69730i live in china and i need to crack out of the firewall16:47
Hawkerzwell, chromium-dev is more likely to be development headers than a usable web browser16:47
Deathlirewhy would it be broken? it sure isn't going to be the best bug free thing..but dev is sometimes ok if you want the latest16:47
Guest69730i was here earlier, i thought i may need to just buy a vpn service16:47
jigalgetting this error when logging in to my ubuntu server: ubable to cd to /home/jigal16:47
Deathlirethen change your dns..if you want to kill a firewall16:48
SolarisBoyor tunnel your traffic over ssh...16:48
SolarisBoynot sure what changing dns would do to kill a f/w btw16:48
Deathlirethat works to..but vpn's are nice to have if they are legit16:48
ferronicabillkd, you moron16:48
Hawkerzpetester, hopefully this is the last question I have -- cat /etc/modules16:49
ferronicawho is admin here16:49
mhillsquit16:49
ikoniaferronica: what's up ?16:49
Deathliremost fwalls in china or actually isp's use a dns thats filtered which kills most of the net is all16:49
SolarisBoyand if your going for bypassing by encrypting your traff - why not do it for free?16:49
ferronicaBan billkd16:49
ikoniaferronica: please don't call people morons16:49
Guest69730how do you do those things? free would be better i guess if there's another option16:49
ferronicaikonia hi16:49
SolarisBoyDeathlire: ahh i see16:50
ferronicaikonia u want to now reason16:50
ferronicaikonia, Know*16:50
ikoniaferronica: if you have a problem, please join #ubuntu-ops and we can resolve it16:50
pdbeard==16:50
chaoxGuest69730: whats the problem with you being in china?16:50
chaoxcant access something?16:50
petesterHawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602429/16:50
Hawkerzfirewall probably chaox16:51
ferronicaikonia, he hacked my system and created Batch file to auto kill Xchat16:51
Hawkerzpetester, sudo echo "wl" >> /etc/modules16:51
SolarisBoybatch file?16:51
Hawkerzpetester, also, modprobe wl16:51
ikoniaferronica: please do what I told you16:51
Hawkerzer, sudo modprobe wl16:51
Deathlirequite a few problems can be killed by using googles dns..but if it's something else then well..i may can help you :)16:51
ferronicaikonia, he insisted me to install ssh16:51
petesterHawkerz I get permission denied when I try to do those blacklist things16:51
llutzHawkerz: sudo echo >> doesn't work, use "echo foo |sudo tee -a bar"16:52
ikoniaferronica: final time - join #ubuntu-ops if you have a problem16:52
Hawkerzright, sorry16:52
Guest69730this great chinese firewall is killing me; no facebook zynga poker, no porn, no youtube and no pbs or bbc online videos16:52
Hawkerzpetester, do what llutz said16:52
Deathlireif somebody told you to instal ssh when it was already installed..hmm..also you shouldn't give out root and passes16:52
chaoxGuest69730: No PrOn ?!16:52
ssvssHi, I would like to run the following cmd at startup "sudo apt-get install irssi16:53
SolarisBoydo they push those filtered DNS via ISP autoconf (DHCP or something) or or they *enforcing* it by redirecting dns traffic to a certain set of dns servers?16:53
Hawkerzssvss, are you sure you need to install it every time yo uboot up?16:53
petesterso just replace >> with |16:53
ssvsssorry ignore the above line, incorrect cmd16:53
billkdssvss: why do you want to install a package every time your machine boots?16:53
Guest69730yea!16:53
Hawkerzpetester, i'll just give you a single line to execute16:53
Sjajne_Nitissvss, :D16:53
petesternvm i got it16:53
Hawkerzone second16:53
SolarisBoyif it's the first than wouldn't getting around it for all of china be as easy as Deathlire mentioned?16:53
Hawkerzoh16:53
Hawkerzfantastic16:53
SolarisBoyor would they get like caned or something for that?16:53
boba88hi16:54
DeathlireSolarisBoy : they actually have a dropper on the dns comps just for that reason16:54
SolarisBoysheesh16:54
boba88i moved from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 11.10 for the devolopment of one program16:54
Hawkerzpetester: after that, check the output of lsmod for either 'b43' or 'ssb' -- if either one is present then 'sudo modprobe -r xxx'16:54
petesterHawkerz actually the text scrolled too far and I'm not an irssi expert, could you copy paste the echo foo | sudo ....16:54
boba88i have trouble linkking agains glew16:54
boba88against*16:54
Deathlirealot of isp's even america have it..ya just don't see it..but alot of it is getting thrown out when torrents are abound..around the us anyways16:55
Hawkerzpetester, echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules16:55
boba88did something crucial change when Ubuntu introduced unity? Why I am able to compile and link on Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit and not on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit?16:56
SolarisBoyoh im sure but - heh yea i guess cause he still didn't mention what he site was going to.. coulda been pr0n16:56
ssvssI woule like to run this cmd at startup "echo 255 >   /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity". I can't run this as sudo. so I have to do a "sudo su" before running this cmd. including this is /etc/rc.local, after a "sudo su" doesn't work.16:56
Hawkerzboba88, compile and link what?16:56
ikoniabillkd: could you check your private messages please.16:56
boba88Hawkerz: a program that uses freeglut, GLU and glew16:56
Deathlireboba88 you might want to "make clean" before ya compile from 32 to 64 bit16:57
boba88Deathlire: i did that16:57
llutzssvss: you don't need to use sudo in rc.local, commands from there are run as root16:57
SolarisBoyssvss: rc.local is going to run as the root user -16:57
petesterHawkerz I'm gonna reboot, be back in a minute.16:57
Hawkerzbut yes, the entire windowing system is quite different as far as I know16:57
Hawkerzpetester, hopefully16:57
petester;)16:57
Deathlireall the deveolper headers and such installed as 64bit as well boba88 ?16:58
zyngawowhello16:58
boba88Deathlire: yep16:58
boba88Deathlire: i link as -lGL -lglut -lGLEW -lGLU16:58
zyngawowCan anyone help with ubuntu being veeery laggy graphically?16:58
Hawkerzboba88, what's the nature of your errors?16:58
boba88Deathlire: the thing is the libraries are found but the defintions within them are not!16:58
Hawkerzzyngawow, probably, but i need a minute16:59
boba88Hawkerz: undefined reference to `__glewDeleteFramebuffersEXT'16:59
zyngawowHawkerz, I've got plenty of time :)16:59
ssvssI tried adding the command without sudo in rc.local, but the file wasn't updated after a reboot. any idea what I might be doing wrong.16:59
DeathlireThats one thing i probably can't help you with..I'm not the best on compilers or modes for them16:59
zyngawowI installed ATI's drivers, it was laggy, went to software sources and enabled propietary drivers from there... still laggy16:59
Deathlireohh ya got undefined refs..hmm16:59
Deathlireare they symlinked?17:00
Guest69730can someone like hack into the chinese government and take down the firewall for a while so i can check my facebook account and watch epic fail compilations on youtube17:00
Guest69730joking17:01
petesterHawkerz, still no wifi :/17:01
boba88Deathlire: i think not17:01
petesterblacklisting didn't work17:01
boba88Deathlire: the libs are at /usr/local/lib17:02
zimzum77so can i get rid of, xterm, uxterm when i have just terminal17:02
boba88Deathlire: for example the libglew.so17:02
DeathlireGuest69730: reroute your dns to say 8.8.8.8 and if it doesn't work let us know17:02
petesterhowever software sources seems to be showing new hardware that wasn't there before17:03
Deathlireboba88 i'm not sure exactly but have you tried to apt-get update *glew*17:03
zyngawowMy Ubuntu is laggy with moving windows around, video playback seems fine, I tried launching MineCraft and it just didnt work.17:03
Genrawirzyngawow: Have you installed the video drivers?17:04
Hawkerzpetester, lsmod | grep wl17:04
Guest69730i would love to but my router is in chinese and there's no english version17:04
Guest69730and i cant read chinese17:05
Deathlireor really what chipset do they have for the gpu..depends17:05
you-tee-fcould someone tell me which implementation of ANSI is commonly used in the modern unix-like OS  §17:05
you-tee-f?17:05
boba88Deathlire: i tried to update to 1.617:05
boba88i know the newest is 1.9 but still17:05
ikoniayou-tee-f: you may want to try the ##linux channel, this channel is only for Ubuntu17:05
Deathlireyour in china and can't read chinese? hehe well try to google what the router pages say?17:06
petesterHawkerz, that command returns blank17:06
you-tee-fmy bad17:06
Hawkerzpetester, sudo modprobe wl17:06
Deathlireansi-54017:06
zyngawowGenrawir, yes, I went to ATI's website and downloaded latest driver and installed it.17:06
Hawkerzzyngawow, that was a biiiiiig mistake17:06
babssasc17:06
zyngawowIs it=17:06
Guest69730:) yea...i should get on the learning how to read it. i'll try the google translate17:06
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Skirewith the new 13.1 proprietary legacy ati drivers, are the opensource drivers still the way to go for 2D performance?17:07
petesterHawkerz, FATAL: Module wl not found17:07
Hawkerzyes, zyngawow, run this command and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com -- sudo lshw -c display17:07
zyngawowWhat was Ubuntu's shortcut for terminal?17:07
Skirectrl alt T17:07
boba88alt F217:08
kurteknikkHi, anybody knows of any issue with  logrotate and mysql ? My issue is that the the user exists and it has the correct password but i still get: error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log ' run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 117:08
boba88then type gnome-terminal17:08
boba88:)17:08
Deathlireactually Guest69730 : maybe you should try just translating dns and then try  to figure out where it is..probably is 4 lines..might be 2..for ip's17:08
Genrawirzyngawow: You might need the 'Official' Oracle Java for Minecraft, but unfortunately I run NVidia, so I'm not too versed with ATI.17:08
boba88longer than ctrl alt t17:08
babshow does the xchat works17:08
zyngawowGenrawir, no, I had MineCraft running on OpenJDK before17:08
zyngawowGenrawir, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602478/17:08
zyngawowNice, 33mhz17:09
IvelfanFrHello every17:09
boba88Deathlire: the update did not help17:09
IvelfanFrI have a problem, someone can help me ?17:09
Genrawirzyngawow: Ok, that seems right, because I'm using OpenJDK again (it was broken for a bit some time ago).17:10
Deathlireso it did update though boba88 ?17:10
IdleOneIvelfanFr: depends what the problem is, ask your question and if someone can help they will.17:10
boba88Deathlire: i did sudo apt-get update17:10
Genrawirzyngawow: In that case I would look to install the video drivers through Ubuntu instead of from the ATI website.17:10
llutzkurteknikk: "sudo logrotate -dv -f /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server"  any useful info?17:10
zyngawowHawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602478/17:10
zyngawowGenrawir, I tried that too... maybe I messed everything up doing that17:10
IvelfanFrIdleOne: Okay17:10
boba88Deathlire: you cannot do sudo apt-get update *glew*17:10
boba88but rather update the everything17:11
Hawkerzzyngawow, lsmod | grep video17:11
kurteknikkllutz, let me check...17:11
Deathlireall i can say is try another make clean which ya probably did..or wait on one of these fellas to help ya..least i tried17:11
Deathliremeant upgrade sorry17:11
zyngawowHawkerz, nothing17:11
Hawkerzbut yeah, ultimately zyngawow -- the stuff I need to see is: dpkg -l | grep -i ati17:11
zyngawowHawkerz, the output of that is too long17:12
Guest69730here we go i've found my primary dns server; would that be it?17:12
zyngawowHawkerz, it fills the console up17:12
IvelfanFrI have install Ubuntu 12.04 on my new computer. Ubuntu boot and login works but when I'm on the desktop and I launch one software, I have a big freeze of component. My mouse works on the soft (for example, Change channel on IRC) but when I clic on Cross to close soft nothing happend.17:12
DeathlireGuest69730: Yes, that would be it and Secondary as well.. use first as 8.8.8.8 and second as 8.8.4.417:13
boba88Deathlire: now i do an upgrage 742 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.17:13
IvelfanFrThe left side works with my mouse but not the top side.17:13
IvelfanFrI try to change USB Port of my Mouse but nothing happend, I try to change my mouse, same thing.17:14
Hawkerzpetester, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source17:14
kurteknikkllutz, interesting i see this at the end of the output: removing old log /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz17:14
kurteknikkerror: error opening /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz: No such file or directory17:14
Hawkerzproprietary ATI drivers are still called fglrx?17:14
zyngawowthey are17:15
Hawkerzzyngawow, what version of ubuntu are you on17:15
zyngawow12.1017:15
llutzkurteknikk: but " /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz"  exists?17:15
kurteknikkllutz, strange because earlier i see: renaming /var/log/mysql.log.7.gz to /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz (rotatecount 7, logstart 1, i 7),17:15
Hawkerzzyngawow, here is your article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/129200#12920017:15
petesterHawkerz, The options in Software Sources changed, but still no wifi.  Should I reboot again?17:16
kurteknikkllutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602501/17:16
Hawkerzpetester, try sudo modprobe wl17:16
Hawkerz:p17:16
petesterstill not found17:17
zyngawowHawkerz, sh: 0: Can't open /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh huh17:17
Hawkerzreboot for the moment17:17
zyngawowIs it installed lol?17:17
Hawkerzzyngawow, yeah, hang on, I was about to stop you17:17
oalI just reinstalled ubuntu, an I have two monitors. Now, when it's in power save mode, and I reactivate it again, the second monitor takes very long to turn on again. It used to be pretty much instantanious. Any ideas?17:17
llutzkurteknikk: but " /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz"  exists?17:17
kurteknikkllutz, strange but apparently mysq.log.8.gz doesn't exist and not even mysql.log.8.gz17:17
kurteknikkllutz, *mysql.log.7.gz (whilst i saw that files were renamed so they should exist...17:18
k1lledhi all, someone from here talk bulgarian? my english is band, i want to ask something....17:18
Hawkerzzyngawow, I'm going to give you a customized set of instructions17:18
k1lledenglish is bad *17:18
Hawkerzjust give me a moment17:18
IvelfanFrHow can I recover my root password, I forget it ...17:19
IvelfanFr?17:19
Deathlirei only know dovijdane17:19
xanguaIvelfanFr: you shouldn't even had root password enabled17:19
kurteknikkllutz, no it doesn't exist17:19
k1lledDeathlire haha :)17:19
zyngawowHawkerz, perfect :)17:19
llutzkurteknikk: "getent passwd mysql"    uid=108 i assume17:19
reape737hello17:19
k1lledDeathlire you know what mean dovijdane?17:19
zyngawowHawkerz, I did the second step on there to because I did &&17:20
Hawkerzif the first step failed then the second step also failed17:20
Guest69730hey  guys i tried it but still no youtube etc17:20
IvelfanFrxangua: I don't understand.17:20
andrew123hello17:20
kurteknikkllutz, yes, uid=10817:20
Deathlireyes, means good bye as my bulgarian friend taught me17:20
kurteknikkllutz, the other files exist from 1-6 but 7 and 8 don't exist17:21
zyngawowHawkerz, it didnt17:21
Guest69730Deathline you have a bulgarian friend?17:21
andrew123I just installed google-chrome, but it can only be run from terminal. When I run it and Lock it to Launcher it cannot be run (does some animation and thats it) - any advice please?17:21
llutzkurteknikk: "df -h /var/log"17:21
k1lledDeathlire how is his nickname ?17:21
Deathlireyeah kinda my bulgarian gal somewhat. but isn't17:21
ioriaIvelfanFr: get the User's Ubuntu Manual and scroll to TroubleShooting, you'll find the solution17:22
k1lledDeathlire you undarstand from ubuntu ?17:22
Deathlireja17:22
DoctorTruthanyone know how to fix choppy graphics and speeds in video games on xubuntu 12.0417:22
kurteknikkllutz, /dev/sda7       907G  434G  428G  51% /17:22
kurteknikkllutz, there is space available...17:23
zyngawowHawkerz, could you please PM me the instructions when you have them?17:23
CapprenticeFloodBot1,  hello ;)17:23
Hawkerzzyngawow, sure thing almost done17:23
Hawkerzzyngawow, are you using unity?17:23
reaper_you need to reinstall the drivers for graphics card17:23
Guest69730what is DNS anyway?17:23
jhutchins_wkGuest69730: It's the service that translates hostnames to IP addresses.17:24
CapprenticeDomain Name System.  Connect google.com to its corresponding UP17:24
CapprenticeIP17:24
Guest69730ah, thanks17:24
Deathliredomain name server..it looks up all the info on a name and resolutes to an ip17:24
HawkerzI expect that changing local nameservers is not going to thwart the chinese government, sadly17:24
llutzkurteknikk: so diskspace is not the problem, you might test the brute method: "sudo rm mysql.log.[3-7].gz" and run logrotate again to see if it stll errors (just be sure you don't need the old logs anymore)17:24
petesterHawkerz, still no wifi :/17:25
Guest69730yea they may have cottoned on to that17:25
jhutchins_wkkurteknikk: If you need them you can move them to some other directory.17:25
andrew123 I just installed google-chrome, but it can only be run from terminal. When I run it and Lock it to Launcher it cannot be run (does some animation and thats it) - any advice please?17:25
jhutchins_wk!repeat17:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:25
zyngawowHawkerz, No, I used something to get gnome 317:26
zyngawowHawkerz, I'll get you a link17:26
kurteknikkllutz, why do you think i should remove the others ? since there is space left shouldn't be a problem right ?17:26
CapprenticeHow to setup vpn ? Is there any software like HotSpot Shield for Ubuntu ?17:26
jhutchins_wkandrew123: We really don't know anything about how Google's software works.17:26
kurteknikkjhutchins_wk, thanks for your tip :)17:26
ioriapetester: also b43 is blacklisted ?17:26
llutzkurteknikk:better  "sudo mv /var/log/mysql.log.[3-7].gz /tmp"17:26
zyngawowHawkerz, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html17:26
Deathlirethats always my first line of defense..change dns servers...seems to work most of the time17:26
reaper_is there any gamer on steam for linux17:26
llutzkurteknikk: no just to check if logrotate runs through if there is no .7.gz , it is just a test17:26
ikoniareaper_: there are games on steam for linux, yes17:26
kurteknikkllutz, mmm ok let me try17:27
petesterioria yes17:27
Hawkerzok zyngawow thanks17:27
reaper_i no that butt hell all the servers dont have any players17:27
andrew123jhutchins_wk: I thought the problem might be on Unity's side.17:27
jhutchins_wkandrew123: Wild guess: You need the full path.17:27
Guest69730there was a dns server number in there before i replaced it; it's not going to change anything is it now that i have?17:27
ioriapetester: this link if for Arch, but could be usefull: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=14951617:28
jhutchins_wkGuest69730: DHCP or static?17:28
llutzkurteknikk: tbh, its like  "poking in the dark" because i don't have any real idea why the rotation fails at that point.17:28
Hawkerzpeterrus, did you sudo modprobe wl again?17:28
CapprenticeGuest64555,  hey put 8.8.8.8 amd 8.8.4.417:28
kurteknikkllutz, still same error17:29
gustav_Hawkerz: Nah, flickering is back in HoN.17:29
kurteknikkllutz, what i noticed is: rotating log /var/log/mysql.log, log->rotateCount is 717:29
Hawkerzgustav_, at least it lasted awhile :p17:29
Hawkerzi guess bumblebee doesn't have it's own logs?17:29
gustav_Maybe.17:30
Guest69730yea i tried that capprentice, nothing. but there was 61.130.254.34 in the primary dns and nothing in the secondary17:30
Hawkerzgustav_, some errormsgs are reported to /var/log/syslog -- grep for bumblebee maybe17:30
llutzkurteknikk:i guess its just the value taken from here" grep rotate /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server"17:30
CapprenticeGuest64555,  no matter. You can put what I have written. Still this will work.17:31
kurteknikkllutz, so from somewhere it's expecting that there's 7 logs...17:31
Guest69730ah that's ok, thanks17:31
Guest69730yea it looks like i'm still connected to the internet without that17:31
Deathlireshould have first and second Guest69730 and if its put into the router to apply or save changes..may also need a good reboot to flush the dns17:32
Deathlirereboot of the router that is17:32
Capprenticeyes. Reboot.17:32
Capprenticeother wise changes will not reflect.17:32
llutzkurteknikk: but you removed the .3...7.gz from /var/log before you issued logrotate again, and checked it?17:32
jhutchins_wkThe only reason to reboot a linux system is to load a new kernel.17:33
* sakhi trying to get more reasons why an open source application should not be hosted on a Windows server.17:33
kurteknikkllutz, yes i checked it and it still complained about 817:33
HawkerzGuest64555, are you seriously trying to circumvent the chinese government's firewall using dns?17:33
Guest69730sorry to sound stupid but is that push the little button in the back on and off17:33
jhutchins_wkRebooting for other reasons is a holdover from Windows and is not necessary in Linux.17:33
ikoniasakhi: please do it in a different channel then17:33
Hawkerzer, one of you anyway17:33
Guest69730yea, i'm trying :)17:33
jhutchins_wksakhi: What do you mean by hosted?17:34
HawkerzI have to be somewhat skeptical that they would not have considered that17:34
ikoniajhutchins_wk: sakhi this is nothing to do with ubuntu17:34
llutzkurteknikk: can you please pastebinit the output from last run?17:34
kurteknikkllutz, yeah give me a sec17:34
sakhijhutchins_wk: I mean running a proprietary base OS and a OSS application. I'm sure this is the right channel for this though.17:35
kurteknikkllutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602555/17:35
babshi17:36
jhutchins_wksakhi: ikonia is right that this isn't related to ubuntu, but there's no reason not to run OS applications like openoffice or konversation on a Windows system.17:36
babshi17:36
cloakableIs this right place to ask about Pulseaudio on ubuntu?17:37
llutzkurteknikk: those "renaming ....7 ->8" "6->7" etc lines are independent of real existing log.files and i tested it here, it successfully removes 8.gz at the end. sorry no idea why it fails with your setup17:37
Guest69730what if i went to edit a new vpn and created a new one, would that work?17:37
kristenbbhi, I've recently updated some packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu3D, I am forwarded to ubuntu 2D. I have 12.04. What to do ?17:37
kristenbbk1l: ^17:38
kurteknikkllutz, strange i have 2 other servers and noone of them have problems17:38
kurteknikkllutz, also checked logrotate script and it looks the same...17:38
Hawkerzhmmmm hopefully zyngawow's disappearance and failure to return is because wiping fglrx went well....17:39
kurteknikkllutz, thanks a lot for your time, i'll see if i can figure out what's going on...17:39
llutzkurteknikk: sorry i couldn't help17:39
radziorhi, is xubuntu-desktop missing from repo? i have installed ubuntu over network and cant install xfce17:40
llutzkurteknikk:  but at least you are right, its not the debian-sysmaint-password :)17:40
jribradzior: what happens when you try?17:40
kurteknikkllutz, yeah... what's interesting is that even if i run the command on another server that i have, it still complains about file 817:41
radziori get: E: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop17:41
kurteknikkllutz, but i never got any email notifications that it fails on that server17:41
jribradzior: run "sudo apt-get update" and try again17:41
radziorjrib: did that17:41
jribradzior: make sure you have universe enabled17:41
radziorjrib: how do i make sure?17:41
jrib!repositories | radzior17:42
ubotturadzior: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories17:42
radzioryou mean, adding some new repos?17:42
gustav_I think the flickering is due to heat.17:42
jribradzior: enable the universe repository, yes17:42
gustav_Hawkerz:17:42
Hawkerzyeah, I agree with you17:43
radziorthank you :)17:43
Hawkerzeven my steady typing and programming has that effect17:43
gustav_Hawkerz: It started flickering, I lifted it from my lap and it stopped.17:43
Hawkerzit could be interesting to track temperature17:43
gustav_True.17:44
gustav_Seems to be a zillion sensors, though.17:44
Guest69730put your computer in the fridge17:44
dakotawulfycan someone help me with grub217:44
gustav_It's rather cold already but sure.17:44
dakotawulfywant to write grub to usb thumb drive17:44
Hawkerzdakotawulfy, okay17:46
Hawkerzgo for it17:46
dakotawulfyHawkerz ok when i try to use this script it does not work i get a  ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid17:47
gustav_What exactly are all the problems being worked on now?17:48
kristenbbhi, I've recently updated some packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu3D, I am forwarded to ubuntu 2D. I have 12.04. What to do ?17:49
Hawkerzdakotawulfy, how are you attempting to install?17:49
Hawkerzubuntu has a tool specifically to make bootable usb sticks17:49
Hawkerzkristenbb, http://paste.ubuntu.com -- the output of: sudo lshw -c display17:50
dakotawulfyok using this script17:50
dakotawulfyHawkerz  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602597/17:50
Hawkerzdakotawulfy, so you -only- want grub?17:50
Hawkerzzyngawow, should I take the downtime as a sign that things went badly?17:51
artreihi all, how do i call lxde panel settings from terminal?17:51
zyngawowNo, everything went great, just the WiFi, I'm using my phone as a modem17:51
kurteknikkllutz, do you know who is responsible of the logrotate 'postrotate script' ? is it mysql or ubuntu ?17:51
dakotawulfyHawkerz ok try to do an install on usb thumb drive wanted to do full install on usb17:52
novicehow can I disable swap and remove swap file?17:52
Hawkerzdakotawulfy, use ubuntu's startup disk tool17:52
Hawkerzdakotawulfy, it does precisely that and handles all the formatting and stuff17:52
dakotawulfynope17:52
kristenbbHawkerz: http://pastebin.com/pHJkgVSP17:52
dakotawulfyno17:52
llutzkurteknikk: good question, mysql i'd guess17:52
ronaldsIt's interesting how unity runs tf2 faster than openbox, and I tought it's lightweight17:52
noviceI tried swapoff -a but the next time system starts swap is there again17:52
kurteknikkllutz, ok because i think the problem is actually in the: 'running script (multiple) with arg...'17:53
kurteknikkllutz, which is actually the postrotate script... and they have a comment: Really no mysqld or rather a missing debian-sys-maint user?17:54
kurteknikk  # If this occurs and is not a error please report a bug.17:54
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dakotawulfy Hawkerz I want a full install  on usb drive with  works fine when i take out the hard drive and in stall it to usb just wanted it to be able to work without un hooking the drive17:54
kurteknikkllutz, so i think i should report a bug heh17:54
ronaldshow to remove kde without removing other kde apps I installed before adding ppa, or some apps17:54
alch___hi!17:54
notrootanymorehello everybody17:54
alch___does anyone have experience with truecrypt?17:54
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ronaldsI tought it's easy to switch but some difficulties came with lightdm-kdm version overwriting gtk version17:55
ronaldshow to get lightdm-gtk to run17:55
ronaldsright now I have gdm, I ineed lightdm-gtk17:55
llutzkurteknikk:but "/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping"  as root succeeds?17:56
llutzkurteknikk: it should answer "mysqld is alive"17:56
ronaldsmaybe somebody?17:57
dakotawulfyronalds17:57
dakotawulfyronalds: When u install lightdm it should ask u what one u want to use  gdm or light dm17:58
ronaldsyes17:58
ronaldsso I should reinstall gtk version?17:58
dakotawulfy ronalds not for sure u might want to install unity greater to just to make sure it works from get go17:59
artreianyone using lubuntu or lxde? i need to go to panel settings from terminal18:00
ronaldsartrei search for config of it18:00
ronaldslxpanel18:00
artrei~/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels ?18:01
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ronaldsprobably somewhere there18:01
dakotawulfyronalds install the lightdmgtk and unity greater  just get that part working first18:01
dakotawulfythen u can alway change that18:02
ronalds?18:02
ronaldsI am installing for a wile...18:02
krabadorhow can i switch user from terminal ?18:04
llutzkrabador: su - username18:04
ronaldsReading state information... Done18:04
ronaldsE: Unable to locate package lightdm-gtk18:04
ronaldswtf18:04
krabadorllutz, i need to watch the screen where choose the session type18:05
ronaldsReading state information... Done18:05
ronaldslightdm-gtk-greeter jau instalēta jaunākā versija.18:05
aaa801how can i give a user access to the /var/www folder ?18:06
alch___i'm using truecrypt to encrypt a whole disk (usb, external) - i can use it to "mount" the disk and create a device in /dev/mapper, but then i can't figure out how to actually mount the partitions within that device. can anyone help?18:06
krabadorhow can switch user running the login screen, from terminal?18:08
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auronandacekrabador: not sure what you meant but why not login via tty?18:10
krabadorauronandace, i only need to swith desktop environment , and i would swich from terminal18:11
krabador*switch18:11
auronandacekrabador: why from the terminal?18:12
Lainey41214How do I find a program on file system? For example, I want to find firefox.18:12
awayLainey41214, /usr/bin18:12
Lainey41214away thanks18:13
away$ whereis program18:13
auronandace!fhs | Lainey4121418:13
ubottuLainey41214: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier18:13
Deathlire./usr/share/bin or /usr/bin or /usr/share/local18:13
pvh_saLainey41214, in general, use "which" for things in the path, "locate" for everything else18:13
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krabadorauronandace, if i type "sudo service lightdm restart" on tty1 i run unity again, when i would chose the desktop environment18:14
llutzif you use locate, make sure you run updatedb sometime18:14
Deathlireafk eatin18:14
auronandacekrabador: you chose the desktop environment at the login screen18:14
krabadorauronandace, well, how can i recall it from terminal ?18:15
auronandacekrabador: its a little circle at the login screen18:15
auronandacekrabador: why from the terminal?18:15
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krabadorauronandace, to do it faster, when i try DE installation18:16
auronandacekrabador: it takes a few seconds to logout select something and login again18:16
roottoorhey y'all18:16
krabadorok, but i can't know what system does when i select "logout" from menu?18:17
roottoorI am looking for anyone that has experience in reverse engineering. of RF devices in particular18:18
Deathlirebacktracker he18:18
Deathlireeh18:18
auronandaceroottoor: not sure what that has to do with ubuntu18:18
jacobetei have a problem with my nvidia 9500 gt... when i play supertuxkart on a ubuntu 12.04 gnome. why my motherboard  beeps while playing????18:18
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auronandace!rootirc | roottoor18:19
ubotturoottoor: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.18:19
jacobetei have the privative nvidia installed18:19
jacobetethe current version18:19
Deathlirepretty sure thats backtrack..but i do have reverse engineering experience if its for your own network18:20
roottoorwell, aurondace, ubuntu has many useful apps that i have successfully used... but now its getting tedious and expensive,18:20
Deathlirehow is ubuntu expensive?18:20
roottoorlol. it isnt my friend.18:21
roottoorits the man hours that are running up.18:21
Deathlirewell what ya tryin to do then?18:21
alch___ok, here's a different question. i have a block device, and it has a partition table, but i don't have devices corresponding to the partitions. how can i get those? or can i mount the partitions somehow without them?18:22
auronandaceroottoor: again, reverse engineering something has nothing to do with a ubuntu support channel18:22
dabears2 /msg NickServ identify asdfasdf9918:22
xanguadabears2: that sucks :P18:23
roottoorokay... its a bit of electrical engineering, a bit of coding and a lot of man hours. We install aircons all over the world....18:23
Deathlireoops lol18:23
k1ldabears2: change that password :/18:23
kurteknikkllutz, yes it suceeds18:23
auronandacedabears2: time to change your password, do that outside the channel next time18:23
kurteknikkllutz, actually that's what i was just testing heh18:23
kurteknikkllutz, what i'm suspecting is that there should be an else exit 018:24
kurteknikkllutz, under the killall command18:24
_cronus_alch___, how about sudo kpartx -a /path/to/blockdevice18:24
roottoorand logically these aircons all have different code. So we are having to fly around like fools, reverse engineer perhaps one unit and then fly home..... this has been going on for 3 years...18:24
alch___hmm, kpartx you say18:25
_cronus_alch___, it should create partition entries under /dev/mapper/18:25
alch___i will check it out right now18:25
roottoorgtg18:26
ramrebol_i have this problem with unity (screenshot of my desktop http://goo.gl/swGnN). I don't see the bourders of my windows!  how can I fix this?18:27
alch___thank you, cronus!18:28
alch___you have saved the day18:28
alch___kpartx/partx was exactly what i was looking for18:28
_cronus_alch___, glad i could help18:29
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Guest1253hello Alltogether18:32
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MyTallesthello everyone18:40
MyTallestI have been banging my head against the desk for 3 hours trying to figure out how to get Unity to display a 1024.768 desktop on a 1024.600 display.  Can anyone help please?18:42
auronandaceMyTallest: if i read that right then its an impossibility18:43
auronandaceMyTallest: your screen is smaller than the resolution you want18:43
auronandace!pm | MyTallest18:43
ubottuMyTallest: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.18:43
SaidKLEquestion: I have ubuntu server running on a laptop with ubuntu-desktop for gui. How do I get wifi connections working through network manager?18:44
llutzMyTallest: that was called "Virtual" in the past and needed an entry in the display-section of cxorg.conf18:44
llutzxorg.conf*18:44
SaidKLEsorry, wrong channel...18:45
llutzMyTallest: why don't you respect what ubottu just told you about PM?18:45
MyTallestWhere dose xorg.conf exist with 12.10?  It is not in /etc/X1118:45
MyTallestsorry18:45
jacobetei have uninstalleed the privative nvidia controller and my motherboard beeps18:45
llutzMyTallest: then create one18:45
auronandace!xorgconf | MyTallest18:46
ubottuMyTallest: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.18:46
MyTallestthanks!18:46
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SaidKLEQuestion: ubuntu server with ubuntu-desktop installed for gui; network manager doesn't work, even after setting interface management to "true". How do I get network manager working like it does normally in ubuntu desktop?18:55
auronandace!netconf | SaidKLE18:56
jose106anyone know why my laptop switches off the wireless card when I unplug the power cord?18:56
auronandace!resolvconf | SaidKLE18:57
ubottuSaidKLE: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution18:57
jose106I got a Latitude E6500 running ubuntu 12.1018:57
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ocei3koIf Ubuntu decides to become rolling release, will the updates be when available or every week/month etc?19:01
ocei3koOr daily, even19:01
h00kocei3ko: we're not quite sure19:01
auronandaceocei3ko: you are asking about something that is hypothetical, nobody can answer that19:02
rensvindis there some way in ubuntu to know if the 3g modem is using 3g or 2g?  In windows I have an application that handles the internet and it tells the speed,  2g/3g etc..    but in ubuntu I see no way to know this?19:02
plast1kjoin  #fedora19:02
jose106anyone knows where the power manager for the wireless card is in ubuntu 12.10?19:03
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FerkSwepastebinit must be the best program ever.19:08
compdocwell, its nice when you want to paste something19:09
mustucpu frequency scaling is craching on ubuntu 12.0419:09
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marc__hello19:11
jackyylli19:11
marc__lubuntu 12.1019:12
auronandacemarc__: awesome, isn't it?19:13
ioriabut there's no network icon ....19:13
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SaidKLEOkay, so maybe I didn't explain myself right. I installed ubuntu-desktop on top of a fresh install of ubuntu server from usb in order to get gui. Network manager can't see wireless networks and wouldn't let me enable/disable network interfaces until I edited /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf so it would manage the interface. Still, wireless networks don't show up. I think perhaps the server way of connecting is conflicting with the19:15
SaidKLE desktop way of connecting, but not sure.19:15
SaidKLEI looked at resolvconf, but I don't see how that would help.19:16
MeXTuXI have a mkv file and want to remove unwanted audio streams. Is there a software to get this done on Ubuntu? Thank you in advance :)19:16
dodo3773MeXTuX: mkvmerge / mkvtoolsnix19:17
dodo3773MeXTuX: mkvtoolnix*19:18
mustuindicator-cpufreq is getting crashed on my system19:18
MeXTuXdodo3773: Thank you19:18
babry-khanhi19:18
ikoniaSaidKLE: why didn't you just install ubuntu desktop19:19
dodo3773MeXTuX: You're welcome. There is a gtk gui for it too called mmg19:19
ikoniaSaidKLE: then it has all the desktop software and additional stuff needed for desktop applications such as wifi configuration ?19:19
babry-khani have a problem with gnome>network>proxy19:19
askingHello people somebody knows how to use ndiswrapper19:20
ikonia!ndiswarpper | asking19:20
dodo3773babry-khan: Do you actually mean networkmanager -> proxy? What kind of proxy is it?19:20
ikonia!ndis | asking19:20
ubottuasking: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:20
horvatQ: Can I update my Ubuntu 12.04  64-bit, if I have installed AMD ATI Catalyst? I think I read somewhere that first I have to remove driver, and then update and then return it...19:20
ikoniahorvat: did you install the driver from the driver manager tool or external source ?19:21
horvatexternal source, AMD site19:21
dodo3773babry-khan: What kind of wifi card? A lot of old tutorials and stuff online for ndiswrapper are depreciated with newer kernel versions. Keep that in mind19:21
babry-khani payd for https_proxy and i cant use it in ubuntu.it is good in windows by proxifier19:21
ikoniahorvat: then don't expect it to work if you upgrade19:21
horvatok, so should i remove it first?19:21
SaidKLEI installed server because I wanted to try ubuntu server. Is desktop similar enough for a web development environment with support for tomcat7, django, php5, etc.?19:21
ikoniaSaidKLE: it's identical19:22
ikoniaSaidKLE: you don't need a server to do web development19:22
dodo3773horvat: What kind of wifi card? A lot of old tutorials and stuff online for ndiswrapper are depreciated with newer kernel versions. Keep that in mind19:22
dodo3773babry-khan: Last message was meant for horvat sorry19:22
SaidKLEkk, will reinstall desktop, thanks for help.19:22
horvathehe :)19:22
babry-khanok19:22
dodo3773babry-khan: does your proxy work in a web browser? good place to test first19:23
horvatok thanks folks :)19:23
bitbltI'm trying to do a preseed for precise. For whatever reason, when I specify choose_interface select eth0, it doesn't work. I have two interfaces eth0, and eth1. I've also try doing just auto, but that doesn't work either. Does anyone know if I am doing this wrong?19:23
k1lled_Q: how can i change this: martin@martin-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC:~$  i forgot to remove "HP-Pavilion-dv6...." , and btw my english is really bad.19:23
ikonia!hostname | k1lled_19:24
babry-khani used foxyproxy but there is not https obtions19:24
ubottuk1lled_: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.19:24
dodo3773k1lled_: you mean your bash prompt?19:24
k1lled_dodo3773:  yes19:24
rajhow can I see the partition scheme on my machine?19:24
k1lled_is a soooo long,19:24
ikoniaraj: use a tool like gparted19:24
dodo3773k1lled_: Do you have a file in your home directory called .bashrc ?19:24
k1lled_dodo3773:  nope19:25
xenokillerhello someone know if it possible to write to a /dev file to play sound in ubuntu19:25
rajikonia, raj@raj-ubuntu:~$ gparted19:25
rajInhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon19:25
dodo3773k1lled_: Create one19:25
ikoniaraj: gkauso gparted19:25
dodo3773k1lled_: Then inside the new file you create declare a variable called: PS119:26
ikoniadodo3773: it's set from the hostname - change the hostname, not the PS1 prompt19:26
dodo3773ikonia: Why not just change your PS1 ?19:26
ikoniadodo3773: because then it's out of sync with his hostname19:26
rajikonia, what's gkauso19:26
raj?19:26
ikoniaand he seems to want the hostname, but with a bit cut out19:26
k1lled_and the last?19:26
ikoniaraj: sudo for gui's19:26
rajcommand not found19:27
rajI remember something else to do sudo for guis19:27
ikoniaraj: what version of ubuntu are you using19:27
babry-khanalso i try this in setting>network>proxy>manual>https_proxy : "user:pass@host:443"19:27
rajoh, gksudo19:27
dodo3773ikonia: I never display my host / username in my PS1 but that's just me I guess. Okay I will ask OP19:27
ikoniaraj: sorry, I made a typo19:27
dodo3773k1lled_: Do you want to change the hostname on your system? Or just the prompt when you open a terminal?19:28
k1lled_if when i change hostname, prompt will be change too, i want hostname change19:29
k1lled_dodo3773:  /home/martin here i make a file with name:  .bashrc19:30
k1lled_right ?19:30
k1lled_sry but my english is a bad19:30
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dodo3773k1lled_: Oh okay. Yeah you do not need .bashrc for that. I misunderstood you're question.19:32
dodo3773ikonia: Take over ^^19:32
k1lled_dodo3773:  ok, how i can change that hostname19:32
babry-khansombody help me !19:32
ikoniadodo3773: already given him the info19:32
ikonia!hostname | k1lled_19:32
k1lled_!hostname19:33
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.19:33
dodo3773babry-khan: You are using networkmanager right?19:36
babry-khanhello again19:39
grendalcan someone help me set up a local printer to share to my rdp cleints?19:39
grendali have set the printer to shared...im using ubuntu12.04 as the rdp client "remmina"19:40
grendalim rdping to a winxp machine in the other room19:40
grendali have a printer usb plugged into the ubuntu desktop and i can print to it..im assuming i need to set up sharing of the printer..wich i thought i had done correctly19:41
babry-khanis there any way to setup ubuntu for using https_proxy like proxifier in windows ?19:41
NewbieBodhiI'm trying to overclock my Geforce FX 5900 ZT with CoolBits19:42
NewbieBodhiif /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exists, this means, that i have not the right driver???19:42
dodo3773babry-khan: Are you trying to use the proxy system wide?19:42
chaoxcan wget be used to grab a .jpeg image from a link locally?19:42
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: no it doesn't mean that19:42
babry-khanyes19:43
NewbieBodhiand what does it mean?19:43
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: it means it's autodetecting because you've not hardcoded any settings in the xorg.conf19:43
dodo3773babry-khan: How did you try to set it before?19:43
NewbieBodhiand what can i do ikonia?19:43
josecar5el puto amo19:43
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: in respect to what ?19:44
NewbieBodhimy instructions say that i have to insert the line  Option "Coolbits" "1" in the Device section19:44
josecar5el puto crak19:44
dodo3773babry-khan: Does ubuntu come with a program called "gnome-control-center" or similar for handling all this stuff? What happens if you just open the search and type "proxy"?19:44
NewbieBodhisudo su19:45
NewbieBodhiups, wrong window19:45
babry-khanin gnome settings>network>proxy>manual>https_proxy field , set it by this pattern "user : pas@host:443"19:45
josecar5in spain please19:45
NewbieBodhiikonia: my instructions say that i have to insert the line  Option "Coolbits" "1" in the Device section19:45
logicbufferHaving an issue on 12.10 with DNS (I think..): I can browse the web just fine, update the system, etc. but after a little bit Chromium will hang on sending request and pages won't load, I won't be able to apt-get update and it'll hang on one download, etc. I've changed DNS in Network Manager to Google's DNS to try that, the same issue occurs. Ideas?19:45
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: to be honest - I'd strongly advise you not to try to do this, but if you want to you need to create an xorg.conf19:45
NewbieBodhithen logout and restart X with alt+E and then type nvidia-settings19:46
NewbieBodhiwhat way would you recommend, ikonia?19:46
babry-khani do it but this is not worked19:46
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: not overclocking your card19:48
NewbieBodhiand how to watch FullHD Videos, without overclocking my card?19:50
FerkSweI have this slight problem where ubuntu keeps reverting my keyboard setttings back to english. I keep setting it to swedish, but it doesn't seem to save.19:51
FerkSweAny ideas why+_19:51
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: I don't believe overclocking will help you19:51
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: I suspect you're not using the nvidia-propritary drivers,19:51
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: I'd look at fixing that19:51
dodo3773NewbieBodhi: FullHD videos? Overclocking your card should not be related to this really in any way. Not unless your computer is really really old19:52
babry-khani was read the manual for openssl,ssh,proxychains,... no one support https protocol19:54
rajext4 is the way to go?19:54
k1lraj: yes19:56
rajk19:56
rajcool19:56
rajthanks19:56
owWhat command reveals the package that has caused a file in /usr/bin to exist?20:01
trismow: dpkg -S /usr/bin/filename20:02
wildc4rdWould anyone know how to get speedstepping/CPU scaling  working on ubuntu?20:02
owawesome, ty20:02
samjd101hello?20:03
emashhello!20:04
babry-khanhello20:04
samjd101anybody here familiar with preload?20:05
jim8888does 12.04 network-manager use dnsmasq?20:05
jim8888is it integrated into network-manager?20:06
samjd101yes20:06
samjd101its running by default20:06
jim8888so how come i was able to install the dnsmasq package? is this something different?20:07
john__How to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying.20:07
samjd101have you tried disabling it in the shortcuts menu?20:09
rajdoes this look okay? http://i.imgur.com/grJe2i0.png20:09
NewbieBodhidodo3773: my computer is only about 12years old, ikonia: so i was right, that i haven't the right drivers?20:09
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: I don't know - you need to check,20:10
samjd101yes raj it looks fine20:11
NewbieBodhiand how to find out which driver is installed?20:11
rensvindIf I configure a firewall with gufw,  will the settings remain if I quit the program? Or do I need it to be running?20:11
jigali am looking for a good manual to install direct admin on ubuntu server anyone?20:11
rajthanks samjd10120:11
ikoniaNewbieBodhi: well as you've not got an xorg.conf I suspect it's falling back to something else, check if you have the nvidia module loaded20:12
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babry-khandodo3773 : do u know what shuld i do?20:13
samjd101too see your drivers type this lshw -c video20:13
samjd101im assuming its the video drivers20:14
xenokillerhello someone know de /dev sound file name20:14
Hawkerzgustav_, https://github.com/amonakov/primus#issues-under-compositing-wms20:15
samjd101xenokiller: /dev/audio020:15
samjd101but it may vary20:16
NewbieBodhiI have nouveau driver20:16
man_lubWHERE CAN I GET MY LITTLE PONY UBUNTU DESKTOP20:16
IdleOnethe internet, lower caps please20:17
samjd101man_lub: not sure what you mean or if you actually want a valid answer?20:17
jigalhow do I install direct admin20:18
NewbieBodhiI have a Nvidia GeForce 5900 ZT, which driver should i install?20:18
samjd101jigal: direct admin isnt supported for ubuntu yet i think20:19
jigalhmmmmmmmmmm20:20
jigalok20:20
samjd101it only supports older releases of debian not the one ubuntu is based on20:20
jigalno good20:21
jigalfor me20:21
IdleOneNewbieBodhi: try #bodhilinux   for support with bodhi linux20:22
NewbieBodhii'm talking in #bodhilinux20:22
NewbieBodhibut i thought maybe someone here can help me20:23
xenokillersamjd101 file dont exist in ubuntu 1220:23
IdleOneok, well bodhi is not supported in here20:23
samjd101if you really need direct admin try a diff distro20:23
NewbieBodhibtw. you know my operating system because i telled you my video driver?20:23
IdleOneI know because I am partly psychic and your nickname suggests it also20:24
jhghello guys. Who can help with hostapd?20:24
NewbieBodhioh, of course20:24
IdleOneNewbieBodhi: in any case #ubuntu does not support bodhi, please use the proper support channel for your distro20:24
NewbieBodhibut i think my problem isn't very related to the GUI?20:24
IdleOneNewbieBodhi: We can't help with other distros.20:25
FebruaryHow to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying. I am using Ubuntu 12.10.20:25
IdleOneNewbieBodhi: you might try ##linux if you want general linux help20:25
securebotin all new distros is nvidia drivers problem20:26
Hawkerzgustav_, you can also actually run nvidia-settings in the new bumblebee, but you can't specify primus as the bridge: optirun nvidia-settings -c :820:27
samjd1011February: i disabled it through settings/keyboard/shortcuts -> navigation20:27
samjd1011jigal: try phpmyadmin20:27
gustav_Hawkerz: Which is new?20:30
josh_Hi20:30
samjd1011hello20:31
josh_How may i resolve a unsatisfiable dependency?20:31
Hawkerzgustav_, I never got nvidia settings to run20:31
josh_how to satisfy this dependency libsfml-network1.520:31
Februarysamjd1011: that disabled alt+tab. I just want to get rid of grouping.20:32
Februaryactually it doesn't seem to do anything20:32
Februaryalt tab still works for me20:32
Februaryi'm on unity btw20:32
josh_clibsfml-network1.520:33
MoPacIs there any successful workaround for the bug where edge flipping stops working?20:33
gustav_Hawkerz: That's gonna be a day I will cherish.20:33
babry-khanhello please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...20:33
josh_Excuse me?20:33
josh_I need help resolving a dependancy while installing vba m20:33
samjd1011February: try alt+superkey(windows key)20:34
josh_Hello?20:34
boba88hi20:34
josh_@sam help here20:34
DeamonStormHi20:34
DeamonStormIm having a serious issue.20:34
josh_@sam i need help20:34
samjd1011josh try installng the dependencies manyally with synaptic package manager20:34
boba88i cannot link against glew properly20:34
josh_k20:34
josh_will do20:34
Hawkerzgustav_, I'm telling you, you can run nvidia settings to configure20:35
samjd1011or else try adding the repository and then apt-get update20:35
DeamonStormI have just installed Ubuntu, the latest from the website. Now, it runs fine from the CD, but when I install it, every window I open freezes and eventually, the whole OS freezes.20:35
trismjosh_: last release to have that version (that is still supported) is 10.04, all current releases have 1.620:35
MoPacDeos anyone have pointer edge flipping for workspaces successfully working?20:36
josh_@trism using a program that needs it20:36
DeamonStormIve had to boot from the CD to get here. Im running live from the CD now...or I otherwise would not be here.20:36
moatazneed help about aircrack20:36
samjd1011moataz: try the hacking channel20:36
moatazname pl]z ?20:37
moataz!aircrack20:37
josh_trism: the program requires it20:37
DeamonStormSo yeah, Im at a loss.20:37
samjd1011DeamonStorm: i think it might be your drivers20:37
moataz!trism20:37
securebotmoataz : google20:37
trismjosh_: understand that, just tell you it isn't there unless you use 10.04 or build it yourself. or ask the person who makes the software to rebuild for 1.620:37
babry-khansamjd1011: am i asking in rong chanel?20:37
moataz#ubuntu-hack20:38
DeamonStorm@sam well, if I cant use the windows I open how on earth am I gonna get this working?20:38
josh_trism: thanks will do20:38
Februarysamjd1011: alt+windows key does nothing20:38
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josh_trism: is there any way i can skip the dependency20:38
moatazis there any wirless cracker with gui20:38
moataz?20:38
samjd1011oh yea its windowskey+tab20:38
DeamonStormDo you need a run down of my rig?20:39
samjd1011moataz: fern wifi cracker and your still in the wrong channel20:39
trismjosh_: a variety of ways, but I wouldn't recommend it20:39
josh_trism: found a newer package20:40
boba88#linux20:41
DeamonStormI mean, I tried to open up the settings window but, it froze literally within seconds.20:41
moatazsamjd1011: what is the right one ?20:41
Stefano2saluti a tutti20:41
Stefano2Qualcuno che mi da una mano con i puntatori in c?20:42
securebotkalbek amerikoniskai20:42
boba88i cannot link against glew properly20:42
samjd1011moataz: try #hacking or something20:43
boba88i can link against it under ubuntu 10.04 32 bit, but not under Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit20:43
DeamonStormAny ideas how to proceed?20:43
samjd1011DeamonStorm: i would suggest burning the image file again to a disk with a chosen speed of 8x this might fix it, otherwise its your drivers20:44
DeamonStormWell, lets say its the drivers, exactly what do I do about that?20:45
RobbyFI read back a bit, I think I had that issue with a friends computer20:45
RobbyFwas the drivers20:45
samjd1011DeamonStorm: are you using nvidia?20:45
DeamonStormATI20:46
DeamonStormAMD 8150 8 core CPU, 7970 HD 3GB, 12GB Corsair Veangence RAM.20:46
samjd1011DeamonStorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI20:46
compdocthats an odd amount of ram20:47
babry-khan////////////////////////   CAN YOU HEAR ME!    this is my first irc chat so please lead me where should i ask my quetion?20:47
DeamonStormWas 16, but one of the sticks went faulty.20:47
DeamonStormOkay, I cant get the repositories. I cant get to anything because the windows are freezing.20:48
samjd1011is ubuntu being installed to a partition20:48
DeamonStormNo, I clean installed.20:48
MoPacbabry-khan: What is your question?20:48
DeamonStormIs there a shortcut for the terminal?20:48
babry-khanhello please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...20:49
samjd1011ctrl+alt+t20:49
ubuntuthis ubuntu support?20:50
DeamonStormSooo, Im best doing a command line install by the looks of it.20:50
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wjtaylorHow can I get the normal scroll bars back?20:50
moataz!cmhod20:51
samjd1011try something other than unity and see if that works20:51
nicktopusd20:51
Guest58905I am stuck with little problem... i tried installing ubuntu from seprate partition without doing research.. well i have managed to delete all boot loaders except what happens to boot the usb installer for ubuntu.. well i try installing ubuntu and seems installer is on same volume as partition im trying to install it to it wont pass "detecting filesystems" on the installer... any tips???20:52
Guest58905seprate patitions but same drive20:52
lnakotIs there some package, to create encrypted filesystem remotely, i.e. decryption should be done on client machine20:53
nicktopusAm I Burt Reynolds?20:53
samjd1011Guest58905: i had the same problem try boot repair disk www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/20:54
MoPaclnakot: do you mean like putting an encrypted folder on a network attached storage or in Dropbox?20:54
Guest58905samjd1011:  no blank disk no usb sticks which is why i tried using partitions?20:54
MoPaclnakot: encfs / cryptkeepr can do that20:54
babry-khanMoPac----------please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...20:55
samjd1011ok bootinto whatever you can and get a terminal up then try to reinstall grub20:55
Guest58905samjd1011:  how would i install grub from terminal? if i could do that grub may possibly read windows partition?20:56
cbarnice20:56
Guest58905samjd1011:  nvm i'll google my bad :P20:56
lnakotMoPac: I mean to move computation from server to client. So that I can just do some dd if= of= obs=1024MB my_encrypted_file  on my NAS, and then use it on client computer, with relatively small performance drawbacks (because NAS will not compute anything)20:57
samjd1011Guest58905: sudo update-grub20:57
Guest58905command not found im running on live cd20:57
Guest58905off a partition on the hard drive20:57
lnakotMoPac: so it may be what you saying as you mentioned NAS20:57
FerkSweHey! I'm giving a kernel upgrade a first try, and I ran into some problems. I ran dpkg -i  on my headers, first the one ending in all.deb, which went smooth, and now my amd64 which spits out an error20:58
FerkSweERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.8.2-030802-generic is not supported20:58
FerkSweError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.2-030802-generic (x86_64)20:58
FerkSweConsult /var/lib/dkms/alsa-hda/0.201303081653~quantal1/build/make.log for more information.20:58
samjd1011Guest58905: have you still got your ubuntu disk?20:58
FerkSweThe log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/20:58
DeamonStormOkay, time to see if this works.20:58
FerkSweAnyone have any idea what's going on?20:58
samjd1011DeamonStorm: good luck20:58
Guest58905samjd1011:  didn't have disk tried installing off partition on hard drive simular to doing off flash drive20:59
Guest58905it's all i can boot into is the live cd20:59
samjd1011Guest58905: ok follow this guide http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin721:00
Guest58905mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/21:00
passionHello I have a question nothing to do with ubuntu but I am hoping someone from the FOS much smarter than me can help answer a security question?21:00
Artemius_Hi guys I want to ask something21:01
samjd1011go ahead passion21:01
Artemius_I watched TPB AFK21:01
Artemius_and I am wondering which command they use at that screen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eTOKXCEwo_8#t=1496s21:01
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passionDONT GO THERE21:01
passionThis is the problem I am having21:02
babry-khanآنان که خاک را به نظر کیمیا کنند     آیا بود که گوشه چشمی به ما دارند؟!21:02
babry-khanbaba!21:02
passionThere are DMCC, GOV, FOX bot infesting free software sites, TBP, and any torrent forum I  have vistied21:02
moatazhow to run apps as root ?21:03
MoPaclnakot: sorry for the disconnect.  If you have encrypted files or an encrypted filesystem on a NAS, I don't see that you have to do anything special to move "the computation" to the client21:03
Extrememoataz: use 'sudo'21:03
MoPaclnakot: the client computer is always doing the actual decryption.21:03
cbaror gksudo for gui21:03
cbar?21:03
hagisnautilus is slow on displaying the home folder. jumping to other folders directly is fast. any idea? (12.04)21:04
MoPaclnakot: unless you have a fancy NAS that is advertising to you that it decrypts its own files for you and sends them to client in plaintext?21:04
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FerkSweAnyone got any idea on my kernel problem?21:05
samjd1011hagis: its to do do with the personalised folder icons21:05
hagisno21:05
MoPaclnakot: even if that is the case, that decryption step is transparent to you.  If you want to not have the NAS send or receive any plaintext data (even over SSL, say), then you can add an encfs folder or a Truecrypt container onto the NAS, controlled by the client. Then, if the NAS has its own encryption, you can use it or not -- if would just be an extra layer.21:05
passionSomeone Kick Aremtius that is just the same thing happend to me I saw some questionable activty on a website that had to do with the TBP, some guy was urging people to go to GOOGLE site to watch a video..and there was no video at all ... I think they are after my ip addresse?21:06
MoPacThe important thing in such a setup would be to make sure that the mount point of the encrypted folder(s) is local rather than on the NAS21:06
Guest58905well lets see how bad of a set back this is21:06
hagissamjd1011: how can i disable default icons?21:06
passionI havent used  torrentz site in years but whatever going on is some serious sh*t21:06
MoPaclnakot: actually, what I said last might not be true: it may not matter what the mount point is because of how the file manager handles the transactions21:06
FerkSwepassion, That was a youtube link to the movie TPB AFK, watching it right now.21:07
Guest63637hola21:07
lnakotMoPac: cool. In my case it's not about sending plaintext via network, but about having a NAS that has minimal CPU power21:08
jhutchins_wkpassion: You know that the tinfoil hat just attracts the brain control waves, righ?21:08
newviciousexit21:08
MoPaclnakot:  Does your NAS have a feature to encrypt its own files?21:08
lnakotMoPac: no21:08
lnakotbut I have ssh access, it's some debian on ARM21:09
FerkSwepassion, And unless you use a vpn, or just spoof it, your IP is freely available with a simple /whois21:09
MoPaclnakot: Okay, then you really don't have anything to worry about CPU-wise.  What will happen is that you will put a TrueCrypt container or encfs folder on the NAS, and that will hold the encrypted content.  Using a client program like TrueCrypt or encfs/Cryptkeeper, you will "mount" the remote file or folder.21:09
samjd1011hagis: use dcong-editor21:09
rohdefI've installed 12.10 along a win 7 uefi, grub didn't show any options, so I did a boot-repair, now I got windows detected, but it doesn't work21:10
samjd1011hagis: dconf-editor21:10
rohdefwhat can I do?21:10
lnakotMoPac: is there a risk of corrupting the container because of network down times?21:10
passionwell i was told to go to google.doc site to watch a movie and how to get around something.. knowwingly that google doc doesn't host video files and I clicked it again21:10
emashwhy are you guys talk about encryption so much? what is it you are encrypting all the time, i'm just curious21:10
passionjust weird coincidence21:10
ArchBeOS anyone here know how to take icons away from the Unity Apps lens? I have a ton of WINE apps installed and their icons overwhelm my Apps Lense21:11
MoPaclnakot: When mounted, a folder will appear somewhere you specify, and that will show you plaintext contents.  Whenever you read or write in that plaintext folder, your local CPU will pull or push the relevant encrypted data over the network connection: the plaintext-ness of it is an illusion and all in your RAM21:11
emashand ip adresses, i own an andress, but it's tracable only to my city and not further, no names whatsoever. or... impress me21:12
MoPaclnakot: I don't think there's too much risk of that, but in any case you can easily back up.  For TrueCrypt volumes, you can make a backup of the volume header. So if the header ever gets corrupted, you can just restore it.  For encfs folders, there is a file in the folder called ".encfs"  that you can back up and restore if something goes wrong21:12
lnakotcool21:12
passionI am on torrentfreakz.com and I am seeing the same kind of stuff- people talking out of order, telling them to visiit links, etc.  it's look so unatural you can just smell something fishy going on.  I wasn't the only one who noticed and called them out.21:12
LL_Anyone know where I can get help with Prolog?21:13
MoPaclnakot: Keep in mind that encrypted data is written in blocks that are decrypted with the private key.  So if a block gets corrupted because of a network error, it doesn't affect other blocks.  In reality, I don't think it's much more dangerous than corruption of a plaintext file21:13
passionplease google working to get rid of proxy and thing just linking to TPB21:13
lnakotthat is really nice21:13
passionI didn't know linking was illegal?!?21:13
lnakotMoPac: TrueCrypt will work on windows & linux?21:13
MoPaclnakot: Yes, TrueCrypt will work.  Question: are you also going to be backing up the encrypted data that is on the NAS?21:14
MoPaclnakot: (e.g., I have encrypted data on my NAS, and I also use my cloud backup program to upload that encrypted data in case soemthing happens to my NAS or the files get corrupted))21:14
lnakotMoPac: not sure, but there's a plenty of space there, so I might backup some volume21:14
passionI just want to know what website I can find a proxy that not being traked.  I dont' know too much about this stuff ...but it would be kind if someone can help me find a prxoy21:15
lnakotMoPac: nice21:15
lnakotso I was thinking about doing backup of container file, on the NAS. I.e. cp container container-`date`. To protect against network problems. Cloud would protect against other situations21:16
MoPaclnakot: So, there's a tradeoff you have to look at.  With TrueCrypt, the whole encrypted volume is one big file.  Depending on how sophisticated your backup program is, if you change one little thing on it, it might then start the backup all over again.  (Some programs work at the block level and will figure out as they go that they don't have to do this)21:16
passionI wont talk no more tinfoil hat just need a way to stop people from geting my IP21:16
Gneapassion: well that's just offtopic here21:16
leei_Hi all can anyone help with problems with PulseAudio ?21:16
samjd1011yea leei21:17
lb27!ask | leei_21:17
ubottuleei_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:17
passionbut asking someone to view a piratebayvideo is not?21:17
Gneapassion: actually, in here, it is. you should ask in #freenode instead.21:17
emashpassion your ip is 96.27.11.19521:17
MoPaclnakot: With encfs, that is not a problem.  The whole folder and file structure is visible, and each individual file is encrypted by itself.  So if you change one file, your backup routine will know that it only needs to re-back-up that one file.  BUT I have had a speed problem with writing to encfs on my NAS samba share.  See my report at https://code.google.com/p/encfs/issues/detail?id=161&q=SAM21:17
MoPacsorry https://code.google.com/p/encfs/issues/detail?id=161&q=SAMBA21:17
emashwho cares anyway?21:17
passionI care because I often visit bittorrent sites21:18
Gnea!offtopic | passion21:19
ubottupassion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:19
leei_I have tried various Linux Distributions, Mageia 2, Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, Mint 14, Manjaro 0.8.4 and Open Suse 12.2  I can get the 5.1 surround sound working the the sound loops and sounds like a machine gun and the words just repeat like right or left etc when testing the speakers and on bootup on Ubuntu the sound does the same thing.  If I change to only use two speakers sound works correctly.21:19
FerkSweAnyone able to help me "decipher" this log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/ Came from running dpkg -i on 3.8.2 headers for amd6421:19
samjd1011emash and passion can you take this somewhere else?21:19
escottrohdef, what grub do you have installed? the efi or bios version21:19
lnakotMoPac: the samba share is on linux? or maybe encfs supports windows?21:19
Gneapassion: although I doubt you'll get good help on your query there... so try #freenode instead21:19
FerkSwepassion, If you wanna stay hidden, get a vpn like swissvpn or ipredator <- I like that one21:19
MoPaclnakot: this is a samba share that I have mounted in ubuntu.  the CIFS program in ubuntu works fine with this21:20
MoPaclnakot: Although there also IS an encfs program for windows, which I also use on my Windows side since I dual boot.  http://members.ferrara.linux.it/freddy77/encfs.html21:20
rohdefescott, to be quite honest I don't know, I think it's bios now, followed the instructions at the second answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/208286/efi-gpt-dual-boot-quantal-amd64-impossible-boot-windows-721:21
passionok before you guy ban me.  I am running a mac with win on bootcamp since it's impossible to install linux on it I am going to try a VM .. but I also want to use it to install lamp and learn how to code.  I already downloaded the server version of ubntu is that a good choice or no?21:21
FerkSwepassion, It is possible to run linux on a mac21:21
passionI read the doc, I am not a computer scientiest21:22
sefsefand the server version is fine to run21:22
FerkSweWhat kinda mac you got?21:22
samjd1011 passion: try xamp if your using mac os x is unix based anyway21:22
passionmac mini21:22
Gneapassion: you just need to know how to read and understand what it is saying, it doesn't take a scientist to know how to do that (many actually do not)21:22
rohdefescott, but that setup doesn't show win at all :/21:22
escottrohdef, well if its bios its wrong, and you wont be able to boot windows. check with dpkg -l "*grub*"21:22
passioni was told for development linux is better want to learn PHP MSYQL and J.NODE21:23
FerkSwepassion, Even I have managed to install ubuntu on a mac, and I can't even upgrade my kernel21:23
passiontripple boot?21:24
FerkSweDual21:24
Sonderbladewhat do you use to debug whether 3d drivers and dri are setup and working correctly? glxgears doesn't really work for that purpose anymore21:24
FerkSweRunning Ubuntu natively next to mac os21:24
passioni have windows running too21:24
rohdefescott, un grub-efi and grub-efi-amg64 :/ I assume that means bios21:24
FerkSwepassion, What version of mac mini do you have?21:24
escottrohdef, efi is efi, efi is not bios. if it says efi it is efi21:25
rohdefescott, but doesn't un mean that it has unpacked the files but not installed?21:26
FebruaryHow to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying.21:26
FerkSweFebruary, Ping me if you find a solution!21:27
rohdefescott, I have ii grub-pc21:27
escottrohdef, you should not have the bios version of grub installed aka "grub-pc" you should have the efi version installed21:27
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escottrohdef, so that is wrong and probably the source of your problems21:27
samjd1011February: if you hate it so much and cant find a solution just get rid of unity21:27
escottrohdef, now i get what you were typing "un grub-efi" you mean "un" as the first part of the dpkg output21:28
FerkSwesamjd1011, It's present in Gnome 3 too21:28
escottrohdef, so remove grub-pc, install grub-efi, run grub-install and hopefully it works21:28
rohdefescott, sorry :) I'm typing from another computer, so didn't copy paste the line21:28
rohdefescott, I think that's the original setup from before I did what the page I linked said :/21:29
leei_What channel can use to get support on Pulse Audio and Ubuntu 12.1021:29
escottrohdef, if your windows is efi then your linux needs to be efi as well.21:30
FerkSweDoes this mean anything to someone? make[2]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/alsa-hda/0.201303081653~quantal1/build/patch_analog.o] Error 121:31
escottrohdef, it should be obvious what windows expects by checking the partition table with sudo parted -l. if it is gpt and has an efi partition then it is an efi system21:31
xanguaFebruary: what ubuntu version¿ i see the static plugin on 12.04 http://i.imgur.com/2SRBZUj.png21:31
escottFerkSwe, there was an error when trying to make patch_analog.o21:31
rohdefescott, did the install, grub-install says something with source_dir don't exist21:32
FerkSweescott, Okay... It continued with two more errors lines. Trying to upgrade my kernal from 3.5 to 3.821:32
rohdefescott, the parteed one says gpt at the partition table, so efi it is21:32
escottrohdef, just because the table is gpt doesn't mean it is efi, although windows doesn't support bios boots on gpt disks21:33
rohdefescott, although the drive with the linux use msdos21:33
rohdefescott, the file systems is fat32 and ntfs21:33
escottrohdef, if you are efi then all your disks should be gpt. you can convert with gdisk utility21:33
rohdefescott, the fat32 is names EFI system partition21:34
escottrohdef, that sure sounds like efi21:34
escottrohdef, i've not yet seen an efi crossboot but presumably having both disks gpt is a good idea21:34
rohdefescott, ok, how would I do that?21:35
escott!info gdisk | rohdef21:35
ubotturohdef: gdisk (source: gdisk): GPT fdisk text-mode partitioning tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-1 (quantal), package size 333 kB, installed size 752 kB21:35
leei_ When setting up 5.1 sound the sound loops and sounds like a machine gun and the words just repeat like right or left etc when testing the speakers and on bootup on Ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04 the sound Loops.  If I change to only use two speakers sound works correctly. Please advise21:35
rohdefescott, ok, will is keep my data?21:35
escottrohdef, yes21:36
escottrohdef, (used properly of course)21:36
_ultimatei am looking for some help with locking the id of 2 omnikey readers after the reboot of ubuntu, i have read that this can be done via udev, does anyone have any ideas, Thanks21:36
rohdefescott, will try then, thanks21:36
emashguys i have a 160 gb win 7 partition and i want ubuntu installed alongside. which size would be ebough for me?21:36
securebot30GB21:37
escottemash, i would not go smaller than about 10GB21:37
emashso if a go for say 30gigs how much space will be availible for ubuntu software?21:37
FerkSweI'm trying to update my kernel but get stuck with ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-7-generic is not supported21:40
FerkSweError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.7.0-7-generic (x86_64)21:40
FerkSwe and this log to go along with it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/ Any ideas why?21:40
FerkSweAlsa not compatible with 3.7 kernel?21:41
_ultimateanyone know where i can read about udev and how to fix serial device ids?21:41
sefsefhave not heard that about alsa21:41
_ultimateor how to fix pcsc device id's21:41
stunts513can anyone here help me with well i guess its kinda just a general linux problem im having in ubuntu involving my lack of knowledge on the sed command?21:41
_ultimatewhen ever i reboot the id's change and then i have to start un pluggint and re plugging the devices21:42
FerkSwesefsef, Seems strange indeed, but the make fails when it reaches it.21:42
catwieselstunts513: What is it?21:42
FerkSwesefsef, But I shouldn't say too much, I have no clue what I'm really doing21:42
stunts513well its not so much tryin gto get it to d omsethign as im crosscompiling ffmpeg using a script i modified for my purpose i found on github and theres a sed command running at the end of it that always has an error21:43
stunts513i do some bash but im not very familiar with sed21:43
stunts513heres the line of coding: sed  -i '.ori' 's/CONFIGURATION.*$/CONFIGURATION \" \"/g' config.h21:44
passionIs windows becoming more transparent and OS I was offered a link to 30 day class- and at the end they would be able to waive my fee.  And I dont have win8 so I am not sure to do it.  They said to get to build and get in appstore all I need to know is html5 ..and this is for both the phone and the OS21:44
catwieselSounds heavy.21:44
Februarycatwiesel: is everything heavy in the future21:44
stunts513i more or less just want to know what that even does21:44
catwieselHuh?21:44
stunts513because i dont know if its realted to that command not running right but when i compiel i eventually run into a error21:45
passionSponsoring workshops to build open sourse HTML5 app doens't sound like something MS would21:45
psichashi all21:45
OerHekspassion how is this related to ubuntu support ?21:45
coolmanlgam trying to setup a local dns server for practice on my laptop with guide from help.ubuntu.com and am not sure about where to put the zone definition. It says to define it in /etc/bind/named.conf.local. But I see definitions in /etc/bind/named.conf.default-zones.21:45
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passionI don't know there both about operate systems, I am asking about free software, I am in a chat room.  I am in a IRS chat room so that means I am bored.  I would llike to shoot the shit with you about ubuntu but I am sure you guys know everything I know about it.21:48
PatrickDickeypassion, I'd check in #windows about this.21:48
h00kpassion: for offtopic chatter about Ubuntu, you can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic21:48
passiondoes this qualify ...  its a linux question not ubunutu21:49
PatrickDickeyAnd passion, I'd say "no" otherwise. I don't think Microsoft allows HTML5 apps in their store.21:49
Yud_Zrocwindows 8 does allow it, but it must be wrapped into c++ code (or using awesomeium)21:49
passionthats what i was thinking yud21:50
cypher-neopassion: They don't allow HTML5 apps in their store. They only barely support HTML5 as it is in IE.21:50
Yud_Zrocpassion: I Reccomend you look into construct221:50
passionyeah i know ie5 sucked when I used it21:50
passionconstruct221:50
stunts513catwiesel, you seemy sed command im tryin gto figureout what does?21:50
Yud_ZrocConstruct2 is a HTML5 game dev software that allows export to facebook, kongregate, windows 8, and web21:51
catwieselWell, it replaces some text with other text, but I'm sure you knew that already.21:51
_ultimateit appears i have found the type of thing i am talking about but for different devices21:51
stunts513well i figured that much, so what is replacing what is really what i need to know because its not doing anythign and exiting that with an error21:52
passioncan you create a fuse app, and wrap it into something else so you put it in a store (a lubuntu one of couse)21:52
Yud_ZrocMy question: Im new to SVN and was wondering how it affects other team members, does it ONLY copy the source code and NOT the project or am I wrong?21:52
Yud_Zrocpassion: not with C221:52
passionthe thing that makes apps out of website by I believe removing the bored around them21:52
_ultimatehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/49910/how-to-distinguish-between-identical-usb-to-serial-adapters21:53
_ultimatethat seems to answer my question now i need to adapt it to my needs, i will give it a try tomorrow and see if it works.21:53
PatrickDickeyYud_Zroc: I'm not an expert on SVN (or even git for that matter), but I'd guess that as long as you don't have write permissions, your changes won't affect others in the project.21:53
catwieselstunts513: How about pasting the command in here?21:53
ivotklHello. =) Is there anyone who could tell me how to improve temperature issues without spending any money or spending little for a month old Samsung network? Videos hang when playing in HD. Using Ubuntu 12.04.21:53
passionI swear thats what this person did on this mac app that on my toolbar when I click it .. it redirect to a mobile site and I actually felt for it- well so did a lot of other people but they didn't realize it.21:54
stunts513ok21:54
stunts513sed  -i '.ori' 's/CONFIGURATION.*$/CONFIGURATION \" \"/g' config.h21:54
Yud_ZrocPatrickDickey: The server has groups for it that im using, im just wondering if SVN only effects code and not the whole project (like assets and models etc)21:54
ivotklstunts513: is that command for me?21:55
passionI would be a millionaire if I could do what he is doing21:55
stunts513no thats fro catwiesel21:55
ivotklOk, thanks.21:55
PatrickDickeyivotkl: No. he's having problems with that command.21:55
ivotklI'm thinking maybe switching of desktop environment for it to be lighter and videos playing better.21:55
passionquestion is bash on ubuntu the same thing as terminal on mac .. I was able to use some of same commands21:56
ivotklIs there any drivers or programs I could install to manage temperature better?21:56
stunts513this script was initially designed to run on osx but most of the stuff i had to change was just the paths for the toolchain21:56
PatrickDickeypassion: Sort of, but not really. I think the Mac terminal uses a different shell than bash. Maybe tcsh or csh.21:57
_ultimateanybody have experience with udev?21:57
passionI thought so because this bash book I have say to download something to use it with macos21:58
PatrickDickeypassion: http://support.apple.com/kb/ta27005 explains the shells a bit better (at least the ones used in Mac's Terminal)21:58
PatrickDickeyWhich bash book are you using? (passion)21:58
passionI wasn't able to complete the installl process using the instuctions on the site.  So most likely I wont be able to get too far into the book.21:59
catwieselstunts513: Well, by reading the manpage I figure, that the command that it takes '.ori' files, matching the last line in them with 'CONFIGURATION.*' and replacing it with 'CONFIGURATION " "' saving it into a 'config.h' file.22:00
catwieselNot too sure, though. Reading sed is a pain.22:00
stunts513ok thanks22:00
stunts513the error i was getting seemed to be syntax ralted22:00
passionI don't I dl alot since I was going to start to learn ubuntu again which been long time ..in college and it was actually opensuse.  I got a bunch of them one is called cookbooks, and the other advanced something22:00
stunts513related*22:00
PatrickDickeyWell passion, if you want to learn bash scripting (which is what I'm assuming you're doing), you might check in #bash for advice.22:02
stunts513ok i think i got tit hanks22:03
omi_Greetings everyone. Where does ubuntu store xorg config file?22:03
tjbenatorDoes anyone know Openstack?22:04
auronandace!xorgconf | omi_22:04
ubottuomi_: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.22:04
passionThis is unrelated but related at the time.  Does google DO no evil when it comes the FOS system.   I am sure there sys is not that open by not but have they poured lots of money into Ubuntu and other distros.  Kind of a way of being charitable but knowing tat same time it make them richer if they have bunch people making there software for free22:05
omi_auronandace: so what's a >current< way of passing parameters to nvidia driver?22:05
passionyeah I will just stop now22:06
auronandaceomi_: make a xorg.conf file22:06
passionim about to get banned but i aoways wonder if give as much as it take from liinux22:06
auronandacepassion: you do know there is an offtopic channel right?22:07
k1l_passion: serious: we have a extra offtopic channel for all this, just join there: #ubuntu-offtopic22:07
passionyeah it was very off topic and random22:07
passionthats why I never use IRC it take discipline to not say anything22:10
passioni get banned often you guys have been much nicer than previous. lol22:11
tjbenatorlol22:11
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druidio22:17
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Guest45517hi all, someone can link me some materials about linux/ubuntu for a beginner? i need to learn basic about terminal, what folder "home" "etc" etc means and are used etc..22:19
druidJ'ai besoin d'installer un navigateur 32 bits + java 32 bits sur mon ubuntu 64, j'ai trouvé un moyen intéressant en utilisant icecat 32 en plus de firefox 64, mais je voulais garder la possibilité de paramétrer le ppa d'icecat en source, le probleme c'est que si je fais ca il va me le dl en 64.. puis-je spécifier une option sans le source.list pour qu'il dl en 32 bits et non pas en fonctione de l'22:19
Guest45517druid?22:19
druidah22:20
druidi thought i was on ubuntu-fr :p22:20
Guest45517:)22:20
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sam113101happens everyday22:21
catwieselGuest45517:  http://askubuntu.com/ is a great fundus of knowledge.22:21
Guest45517thanks cat!22:21
tjbenatorAny one know how to remove a compute node from a openstack cluster?22:24
histo!manual | Guest4551722:24
ubottuGuest45517: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/22:24
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Guest45517oh thanks :)22:25
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histofloodbot spam again?22:26
jackargwho would know a channel where I could get some advice on setting up a bbs?22:29
ikoniajackarg: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode22:30
Moonieslol22:30
ikonia!alis | jackarg22:30
ubottujackarg: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:30
tjbenatorDoes any one know what "nova unrescue <host>" does in openstack?22:32
tjbenatorNevermind It is for Instances. Not what I'm looking for22:33
sirellynIs there a project management channel anywhere?  Or some channel people may know more about project management software?22:37
ikoniasirellyn: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode22:38
sirellynI've used the freenode yellow pages. I've used google.  This is why I'm trying to ask real life people now.22:38
crazy_Hello mof@ckas!!22:38
ikoniasirellyn: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode22:38
ikoniacrazy_: that language is unacceptable, please stop22:39
histo!alis | sirellyn22:39
ubottusirellyn: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:39
FerkSweYaay! I'm breaking my first kernel! Any tips on things to change in it?22:39
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FerkSwe*compiling22:39
sirellynThank you.22:39
crazy_Ikonia thanks for the info22:39
ikoniaFerkSwe: why are you compiling it ? what do you want to change?22:39
jhutchins_wkFerkSwe: Only the thing you need to fix for the first try.22:40
crazy_Any hot chicks around?22:40
FerkSweikonia, Mostly to have the experience and to learn new things22:40
ikoniacrazy_: stop now22:40
ikoniacrazy_: no bad language, no pickup things - this channel is for ubuntu support only22:40
ikoniaFerkSwe: just do a recompile then, don't change anything unless you have need to22:40
j___Why does my c program only print 4 decimals of a number with 9 decimals ?22:41
FerkSweWhy not? Do I really need support for amature radio?22:41
crazy_Ikonia may I ask u a question?22:41
ikoniacrazy_: is it about ubuntu ?22:41
j___what can be the reason ?22:41
ikoniaFerkSwe: why remove it ?22:41
crazy_Can I spread Nutella on your booty and lick it off?22:41
jhutchins_wkFerkSwe: Since most of that kind of support is modular, it doesn't use any resources except disk space - and if you've installed source and compilers you've used more than it takes up anyway.22:42
FerkSweSecret ninja op much?22:42
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jhutchins_wkFerkSwe: But hey, this is part of what OS is all about, so have fun!  Make limited changes and keep notes though, so you know what causes breakage if it happens.22:42
FerkSwejhutchins_wk, But If I don't reconfigure it I can't say that I have reconfigured it. Just doing it for the fun and knowledge.22:43
ikoniaFerkSwe: doesn't sound like you're doing it to learn22:43
ikoniaFerkSwe: sounds like your doing it to say you reconfigured it22:43
FerkSweikonia, Both!22:44
ikoniaFerkSwe: well changing a module so you can say "I reconfigured it" is a pointless thing - more so if you've not reason to do it22:45
ikoniaFerkSwe: and just recompiling it will teach you just as much,22:45
ikoniathank you simonbelmont22:49
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FerkSweikonia, Might be true yeah... Didn't find anything other than the amature radio to turn off.22:56
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FerkSweWell then, onto compiling!22:57
jhutchins_wkFerkSwe: ikonia does have a point that you should have a goal, preferably one you could measure to see if it worked.  I think stripping the modules you don't need might be good, as might compiling the ones you do need into the actual kernel.22:57
jhutchins_wkFerkSwe: I don't know of any current guides to customizing and optimizing it, but I'm sure they're out there.22:57
FerkSweIt's doing things!22:57
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wayne__I cant seem to get my usb to work with ubuntu23:00
FerkSwejhutchins_wk, Yeah, I was thinking about doing that, get rid of unneeded modules, but ikonia was right again, that just the compilation is knowledge enough.23:00
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FerkSweSo doing that, then I'm going to start looking more serious at optimizing it, when I actually have a clue what I am doing23:01
FerkSweReally want to focus on bootup speed, because right now, I'm pretty sure ubuntu goes slower than my old windows 7 did.23:01
histo1FerkSwe: uneeded modules aren't an issue with boot speed. It will only load the modules you need23:02
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FerkSwehistol, Then what's the point of removing unneeded modules?23:03
histoFerkSwe: size as far as I see it.23:04
FerkSweThat's no fun!23:04
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FerkSweI got a whopping 120 gb!23:04
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histoFerkSwe: have you checked with bootchart or something similar to see what's holding it up23:04
FerkSweI most certainly have not, but I will do that as soon as my new kernel is done compiling.23:05
emashguys, installing ubuntu 5 mins before i chosen install alongside option, a guess what, damn installer formatted my second hard drive ffs23:05
bobkahow do i find the package that contains the wireless NIC driver, rt73.bin? I think it is non-free.23:06
emashare there any chances for me?23:06
histoFerkSwe: also btw here I boot to gui in less that 5 seconds.  SSD23:06
histoFerkSwe: disk speed is one of the biggest factors23:06
histo!find rt73.bin | bobka23:07
FerkSweI have an Intel 330 ssd. But I'm nowhere near 5 seconds23:07
ubottubobka: File rt73.bin found in linux-firmware23:07
FerkSwetry 3023:07
OerHekshisto i saved 9 sec boottime by disabling IPv623:07
histoFerkSwe: Yeah something is definately hanging then. Probably DHCP or something stupid23:07
histoFerkSwe: ^^^ see OerHeks comment23:08
OerHeksthat should shown up @ bootchart23:08
emashi see nobody cares about me being dumb23:08
FerkSweInteresting. Definitely getting bootchart23:08
histo!patience | emash23:09
ubottuemash: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:09
histoemash: yes there are boot the install cd immediately23:09
GauntCalm down dear.  It's just a commercial.23:10
histoemash: How was your second drive initially formatted?23:10
nellI'm installing bluetooth drivers for 12.1023:10
nellthe instructions rae for 11.04 will they still work23:10
magixxim trying to install https://github.com/jedisct1/libpuzzle, i installed g++ and libgd2-xpm-dev, however when do 'make check' it tells me a test failed, i tried make install and that did something, however when i run the program it gives me and error of cant open shared object libpuzzle.so.123:11
emashi chose 'install alongside with windows' option in setup, then, booting in win7 i saw my second hard drive overtaken by ubuntu23:11
emashit's not23:11
histoemash: what was on the second hard drive prior to that?23:11
histoWhy is it like pulling teeth with certain people.23:12
emashah just pictures and stuff anyway i have a backup, but it didn't gave me any warnings whatsoever23:12
histoemash: It will not overwrite without user intervention.23:13
histoemash: Are you sure it didn't just resize the partition and install along side windows23:13
emashno it' got to second hd i don't know exactly why23:13
histoemash: please paste the output of lsblk  somewhere23:13
histo!paste | emash23:14
ubottuemash: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:14
emashforget it please, i am making my way into the lonux world now =)23:14
histoemash: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsblk | pastebinit23:14
pilif12p_I have a problem. in mcedit right now, and it seems to have taken my pointer, I can't move to other windows.23:16
pilif12p_In irssi now because it's terminal based, but I can't do much else23:17
pilif12p_how can i regain control of my mouse?23:17
histopilif12p_: Does the keyboard shortcuts still work or is X hung23:17
bobkaDuring install, had to add rt73.bin from removable media. Been advised to now install from package to avoid potential upgrade issues. apt-get says already have newest version. What to do?23:17
pilif12p__histo: it works, i opened another terminal on accident...23:18
pilif12p__now i'm stuck in irssi on this one23:18
pilif12p__i don't really want to kill xorg...23:19
pilif12p__i suppose i could try to kill the program...23:20
druidhello23:23
druidHello, i'm trying to install icecat 32 bits on a 64 bits os, but when i execute "$ sudo aptitude install icecat:i386" it says it cannot install it like that as libnotify4:i386 recommends notification-daemon:i386. Any idea on how i could solve this? I havn't found anything clear about multiarch support.23:23
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druidI have found two links, but the debian tuto http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation?action=recall&rev=39 seems to differ crom the files i find on my ubuntu, and the ubuntu tuto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec is a bit short...23:23
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histodruid: Is there a reason you want to use the 32bit version?23:25
rajstarting with ubuntu-server, I then added xorg23:26
rajbut I still have to do `startx` to get it to start each time23:26
histo!who | raj23:26
ubotturaj: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:26
rajhow can I make it autostart that?23:26
rajhisto, starting with ubuntu-server, I then added xorg, but I still have to do `startx` to get it to start each time. How can I make it autstart?23:27
druidhisto: i need a browser + jre 32 bits to get cisco anyconnect to work on my ubuntu 64 bits as it onlys support 32 bits23:27
emashso now i am at the partitioning screen of ubuntu setup. i have sda with 2 parts of windows and sdb which i am not going to use now. my question is: what i chose when creating a new partition from free space on sda and what device i should use for "boot loader installation"23:27
historaj: you can install a login manager or use mingetty or other techniques23:27
historaj: actually nevermind you don't want auto login you just want it to startx on login?23:28
sam113101use your default shell's startup script/file23:29
rajhisto, I want it to startx on login23:29
bobkaDuring install, had to add rt73.bin from removable media. Been advised to now install from package to avoid potential upgrade issues. apt-get says already have newest version. From info; shall I add a + to force the install?23:29
rajand I'd actually like to have autologin as well23:29
rajhisto ^^23:29
cosmicfiresanyone using pogoplug (pogoplug.com) with ubuntu?23:29
historaj: well two different issues to startx on login put something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603486/  in your user's .bash_profile23:31
emashwhat device shoud be chosen as boot loader installation when installing ubuntu on the same drive with two win7 partitions (main and 100meg)23:31
historaj: if you want to do both I recomend using a login manager. There are ways to do it without one. But if you are the type of person that needs X on a server. It may be easier for you to just sudo apt-get install gdm23:32
histoemash: the drive with windows on it /dev/sda23:33
histoemash: in most cases23:33
rajhisto, I'm trying to avoid gnome23:33
rajI wanted something totally lightweight like openbox23:34
histodruid: I can't even find the icecat package right now23:34
druidhisto: yeah, i added a ppa for that23:34
historaj: So why are you installing a "server"?23:34
raja server?23:34
rajwhat server am I installing?23:34
rajubuntu-server?23:34
historaj: you said you started with ubuntu-server23:35
rajyeah23:35
historaj: You would want to start with ubuntu-minimal if you wanted lightweight   or ubuntu-core23:35
rajbecause I wanna run a lightweight linux OS23:35
historaj: ubuntu-server is something different23:35
rajI'm gonna be running a server off of it too23:35
ivotklGuys. Could anyone point me out to a Moborobo similar program for Linux?23:36
rajthought ubuntu-server was the alternative to ubuntu-desktop23:36
suhaibAnyone uses opnebox here ?23:36
teh_nnobhi23:36
rajsuhaib, yes23:36
druidwhat about http://madbox.tuxfamily.org/ raj ?23:36
emashhisto yes, i have 100meg sda1 and win7 on sda2. what should i chose in drop down menu at the bottom – Device for boot loader installation?23:37
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historaj: ubuntu-server is not ubuntu-minimal23:37
suhaibraj: Do you know how to set a shortcut that will make a window always on top ?23:37
histoemash: /dev/sda23:37
emashhisto, can i just select my free space on sda and hit install then?23:37
histodruid: do you have ia32-libs installed?23:38
druidi do23:38
histoemash: the bootloader gets installed to /dev/sda   so that grub can be used to boot and you will be able to select winblows or ubuntu on boot.   The operating system gets installed to freespace if you have any or you can have it resize windows partition and install in the new freespace.23:40
rajsuhaib, sorry, I don't23:40
histodruid: the other option is a 32bit chroot23:41
emashhisto it says no root file sustem is defined. it means i have to make a swap and main partition from freespace?23:41
rajhisto, can you tell me why I'd want minimal instead of server+xorg+openbox?23:43
magixxim trying to install https://github.com/jedisct1/libpuzzle, i installed g++ and libgd2-xpm-dev, however when do 'make check' it tells me a test failed, i tried make install and that did something, however when i run the program it gives me and error of cant open shared object libpuzzle.so.123:43
histodruid: and it still doesn't work with ia32-libs?23:43
escott!find libpuzzle.so.1 | magixx23:43
ubottumagixx: File libpuzzle.so.1 found in libpuzzle123:43
histoemash: Why are you creating your own partitions? Is there a reason you don't use the installers wizard? Also didn't you already install?  You complained about overwriting a hard drive already.23:43
historaj: because you wanted a "light" system23:44
magixxi libpuzzle1 i believe is from package libpuzzle-bin23:46
ntzrmtthihu777can anyone give me a command to zip the contents of a directory and remove said files, leaving only the resulting .zip?23:46
histomagixx: nope23:46
magixxbut if i install libpuzzle-bin that version is old23:46
histontzrmtthihu777: remove what files?23:46
druidhisto: no it doesn't23:46
ntzrmtthihu777histo: the files going into the zip23:47
emashcan /home partition be ntfs?23:47
histodruid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System23:47
ntzrmtthihu777emash: I suppose, but why would you want to?23:47
ntzrmtthihu777druid: just install the 32-bit libs, its easy.23:47
magixxit tells me libpuzzle1 ios already the newest version if i try to install it23:47
histontzrmtthihu777: what make a zip of the contents of a directory then remove the files in the zip leaving only the resulting zip? How does that make sense.23:47
histomagixx: Then you already have libpuzzle23:48
emashi want second hard drive to be my home folder in ubuntu, being accesible from windows23:48
ntzrmtthihu777histo: not the files in the zip, but the files that went into the zip. when you create a zip gui the original files are left intact, is it the same with cl?23:48
ntzrmtthihu777emash: you can install a program on windows that lets it read ext23:49
histontzrmtthihu777: just rm them after23:49
ntzrmtthihu777histo: thing is is they are all ascii text without an extension.23:49
magixxbut it does not work when i run it23:49
druidntzrmtthihu777: i did it already, it's not sufficient for what i'm trying to do.23:49
ntzrmtthihu777histo: and there are far too many to rm manually23:50
histontzrmtthihu777: right you could zip somedirectory && rm somedirectory/*23:50
histontzrmtthihu777: or just remove the directory23:50
rajhisto, but why isn't server light?23:50
ntzrmtthihu777druid: explain23:50
ntzrmtthihu777histo: if the zip ends up in the same dir rm will get rid of it too.23:50
ntzrmtthihu777histo: ooooh, so if I am in that dir i can do zip * ../zip.zip and then rm the current dir, right?23:51
druid<histo> druid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System -> i've read it and actually posted the link on my initial question ^^23:53
druidi'll try the chroot though, thanks histo23:54
ntzrmtthihu777druid: why dontcha answer me, what exactly are you trying to d.23:54
druid(i really wanted to get that multiarch stuff to work though)23:55
druid[00:23:10] <druid> Hello, i'm trying to install icecat 32 bits on a 64 bits os, but when i execute "$ sudo aptitude install icecat:i386" it says it cannot install it like that as libnotify4:i386 recommends notification-daemon:i386. Any idea on how i could solve this? I havn't found anything clear about multiarch support.23:55
druid[00:23:21] <druid> I have found two links, but the debian tuto http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation?action=recall&rev=39 seems to differ crom the files i find on my ubuntu, and the ubuntu tuto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec is a bit short...23:55
druid[00:27:12] <druid> histo: i need a browser + jre 32 bits to get cisco anyconnect to work on my ubuntu 64 bits as it onlys support 32 bits23:55
ntzrmtthihu777druid: have you tried getlibs?23:56
druidHere you go ntzrmtthihu77723:56
druidNot yet, i want that built-in multiarch stuff to work23:56
druid*i wanted23:56
ntzrmtthihu777druid: kinda part of it, at times. you do have ia32-libs installed, right?23:56
druidyes i do23:57
Randy_PopabawaI'm having some trouble configuring Ubuntu to work with my Samsung NP365E5C. I can't seem to access any sort of brightness controls via shortcut keys or the display settings GUI23:57
Randy_PopabawaAlso the battery indicator is completely screwy23:57
designbybeck_My main drive is a 256GB SDD... I put in another 300GB HDD I had from another computer. I'm just not sure how to format it and use it23:57
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ntzrmtthihu777Randy_Popabawa: #ubuntu-touch23:57
designbybeck_Or at least the best way to use it. I want to use it for some files, like photos/music maybe23:58
Randy_Popabawaubuntu-touch?23:58
Randy_PopabawaI'm talking about a laptop23:58
Randy_PopabawaNot a tablet23:58
Guest98491need some help ... just installed ubuntu 12.10...tried updating my vid drivers perwebsite,....now my taksbar, and side launch bar are gone.... everything i am reading says get to terminal... but how can i launch without any sidebar etc...23:58
ntzrmtthihu777Randy_Popabawa: my bad, samsung threw me off23:58
Randy_PopabawaOh its ok.23:58
Randy_PopabawaI didn't mean to snap23:58
ntzrmtthihu777designbybeck_: ext4, if the only os's accessing it are linux based23:59
designbybeck_yes it is ntzrmtthihu77723:59
designbybeck_I think I had it partitioned because I was playing with differnet distros. ntzrmtthihu777 So I can just open up the disk utility and do it there?23:59
ntzrmtthihu777designbybeck_: then format it as ext4. do you want it to automount somewhere?23:59

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