[00:00] <vynxster> My PCIE soundcard isn't working
[00:01] <OerHeks> !sound
[00:01] <vynxster> It's not detected
[00:01] <bklive> you should be able to just dd if=ubuntu-12.xx.iso of=/dev/sdX
[00:02] <vynxster> It's a SoundBlaster Recon 3D
[00:02] <vynxster> I'll give it a try
[00:03] <Georgy> I get a black screen after the Install Menu :( ?
[00:03] <Georgy> Anyone help :d ?
[00:03] <OerHeks> open terminal:  alsamixer "  and fiddle around with F6 soundcard and settings, maximize alsamixer because it can hold many options
[00:03] <bcbc2> Georgy: be patient. I am sure bazhang hasn't forgotten about you
[00:04] <Georgy> he has :(
[00:04] <Georgy> he is offline
[00:04] <bekks> Georgy: he isnt.
[00:04] <Georgy> Ow, no he isnt, well he doesnt answer :(
[00:04] <Georgy> And its 1am here
[00:05] <vynxster> Iv'e tried that...nothin. My gues is I have to manually initalize it. I have no clue how to do it.
[00:08] <man_lub> p/np
[00:08] <man_lub> b'g
[00:08] <man_lub> 0b00005
[00:09] <OerHeks> vynxster, on a french forum i read confirm Kernel 3.5 allows the cards to see "Core3D" in 3.2 it is not visible. still with issues too > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1210511
[00:09] <leptone> please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600507/
[00:09] <Luigi946> yop
[00:10] <vynxster> Ok. I'll check it out
[00:10] <bekks> leptone: those are just assertion, and not that critical.
[00:10] <vynxster> brb
[00:10] <bcbc2> Georgy: that md5sum you gave matches the md5sum for cde56251d6cae5214227d887dee3bab7  ./pics/red-upperleft.png
[00:10] <bcbc2> Georgy: are you running it on the .ISO or have you mounted it first
[00:11] <enrique> buenas tardes ...
[00:11] <alexGla> need help with bochs virtual box. fail to launch, i get error "bochsrc:190: unsupported CPU model option."
[00:12] <Georgy> what do you mean ?
[00:12] <Georgy> i burned it on a dvd
[00:12] <bcbc2> Georgy: you need to get the md5sum hash for the .ISO. The one you gave matches a file within the ISO
[00:12] <_genuser_> folks, in ubuntu installing qemu using sudo apt-get install qmeu, doesn't which a qmeu executable.
[00:12] <Georgy> yes
[00:13] <Georgy> and here do i find
[00:13] <Georgy> the on for the Iso ?
[00:13] <_genuser_> is there a different qemu package?
[00:13] <Georgy> one
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <enrique> alguien que hable spanish ??
[00:13] <bekks> !es | enrique
[00:13] <leptone> bekks, well it didn't work. just tried to boot on my pc and got "non-system disk"
[00:14] <vynxster> I'm back
[00:14] <bekks> leptone: Is the pc able to boot from usb at all?
[00:14] <bcbc2> Georgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[00:14] <leptone> bekks, yeah np usually.
[00:15] <vynxster> I did a lshw and came up with this:  *-multimedia
[00:15] <vynxster>        description: Audio device
[00:15] <vynxster>        product: Creative Labs
[00:15] <vynxster>        vendor: Creative Labs
[00:15] <vynxster>        physical id: 0
[00:15] <vynxster>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[00:15] <FloodBot1> vynxster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <bcbc2> Georgy: didn't you burn the new ISO already? Did you try the new one?
[00:17] <Georgy> yes
[00:17] <Georgy> and the hashes re the same
[00:17] <Georgy> So thats not the problem :(
[00:18] <ferkswe> mneptok: It's working now! I installed some more swedish locale things. :D
[00:18] <_cronus_> _genuser_, i think the command is kvm or qemu-i386
[00:19] <vynxster> #launchpad
[00:19] <Georgy> bcbc2, what do i do now :(
[00:19] <kondor> vynxster: Error: "launchpad" is not a valid command.
[00:20] <nyaxa> Есть тут русские? оО
[00:20] <compdoc> _genuser_, all I do:   sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager
[00:20] <bekks> !ru | nyaxa
[00:20] <enrique> russian ?
[00:21] <bcbc2> Georgy: You could try 12.04, install it in a VM... not sure what you need Ubuntu for or what your goal is
[00:21] <enrique> URSS
[00:21] <Georgy> Programming
[00:21] <nyaxa> Yes.
[00:22] <enrique> dont speak spanish ??
[00:22] <bcbc2> Georgy: you could start with vmware or virtualbox under windows. How old is your computer? What are the specs again?
[00:22] <cobas> Hi. Any tips on why my web browsing is sooo slow in Xubuntu? Websites time out.
[00:23] <nyaxa> No. :C
[00:23] <Pici> !es | enrique
[00:23] <cobas> I speak spanish
[00:23] <enrique> Русский язык является языком интересное
[00:23] <Georgy> 5 Year, 2.0 Ghz, 3Gb ram,
[00:23] <nyaxa> : D
[00:23] <Georgy> I tried the Vm already
[00:23] <Georgy> Not good
[00:23] <Georgy> :(
[00:23] <Georgy> Makes me lagg
[00:24] <ferkswe> Anyone know if there's a command to put your computer into sleepmode
[00:24] <lxle> probably have to setup a hotkey
[00:24] <enrique> перевод очень плохо ... использовать переводчик Google
[00:24] <smallfoot-> ferkswe, shutdown --help
[00:24] <bcbc2> Georgy: what brand/model/graphics card
[00:25] <nyaxa> This is bad...
[00:25] <Georgy> Asus
[00:25] <enrique> yeah ... i am mexican muahahaha
[00:25] <Georgy> GeForce 9300m GS
[00:25] <ferkswe> smallfoot-: There's no sleep option?
[00:26] <bcbc2> Georgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2094182 looks like you have a backlight issue
[00:26] <bklive> ferkswe: pm-suspend
[00:26] <ferkswe> Testing
[00:27] <bcbc2> Georgy: what model is it?
[00:27] <Georgy> X71SL
[00:28] <leptone> anyone know how to install the tor browser. i'm getting some erros i dnt know how to fix
[00:28] <cobas> I'd probably do that next, but I can't even get Firefox to work
[00:28] <Georgy> leptone, why do you need the tor browser for ?
[00:29] <cobas> ...to browse the web anonymously?
[00:29] <Georgy> Why ? I'm mean why anonymously ?
[00:30] <leptone> Georgy, aaahhhh thats kinda my own business :)
[00:30] <bklive> leptone: you can't private session in chromium?
[00:30] <leptone> Georgy, well, im trying to go to sites that r not accesabl via firefox/chrome/opera
[00:30] <bcbc2> Georgy: here's another http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11325721 There's a suggestion to use acpi=off as well as nomodeset
[00:31] <cobas> Hello. I'm trying to cheat on my wife but I can't get my web browser to work. Can someone help me fix this issue?
[00:31] <Georgy> leptone, aw okay :D Well i cant help you sorry, have no clue of tor browser, bcbc2, allright let me see :)
[00:31] <cobas> I've tried Firefox and Chrome; they both sporadically load some pages fast, other times stop, lag, etc
[00:32] <Georgy> bcbc2, that is exactly my problem :o
[00:32] <ferkswe_> Okay, suspension works, halfways. it goes to sleep, but doesn't return
[00:32] <leptone> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600615/
[00:34] <bcbc2> Georgy: try posting on that thread or messaging the user to see if they figured out a way.
[00:34] <Georgy> Allright, thanks
[00:35] <bcbc2> Georgy: np. good luck
[00:35] <cobas> Ok, Chomium is now about to time out trying to load www.google.com This is pretty sad
[00:36] <bekks> cobas: Works fine here.
[00:37] <cobas> Yes it works fine for me otherwise, just not with Xubuntu on this PC. :(
[00:38] <Georgy> I sendend a pm
[00:38] <Georgy> :D
[00:38] <ArmoredDragoon> Is there any way I can force ubuntu to boot without having a monitor plugged in, while still allowing x to run so that I can use cgminer?
[00:38] <Georgy> Kinda sucks that its a problem on my pc :(
[00:38] <bekks> ArmoredDragoon: Just unplug the monitor.
[00:38] <ArmoredDragoon> I was thinking about making a dummy monitor with some resistors and a db15 adapter, but it seems unnecessary
[00:38] <_cronus_> leptone, try sudo chown -R casey.casey /home/casey/.tor-browser
[00:39] <ArmoredDragoon> bekks: if there's no monitor plugged in, ubuntu will not boot
[00:39] <bekks> ArmoredDragoon: Ubuntu doesnt
[00:39] <ArmoredDragoon> bekks: it's not a bios issue or anything like that...just for whatever reason, nothing comes up when there's no monitor plugged in, I can't ssh into it or anything
[00:39] <ArmoredDragoon> whereas if there is a monitor plugged in, I have full access to it remotely
[00:40] <bekks> ArmoredDragoon: Then there is something else wrong.
[00:40] <ArmoredDragoon> like what? if the monitor is plugged in, it works, not plugged in, it doesn't come up
[00:40] <_cronus_> ArmoredDragoon, i saw a similar problem with an intel card. i had to disable drm to make it work
[00:40] <ArmoredDragoon> this is with an amd card
[00:42] <cobas> Why does IRC work reliably, but websites stop loading half way through?
[00:43] <vynxster> It appears I need a binary X-Fi driver. Any advice?
[00:44] <afflicto-laptop> hello everyone. I'm on 12.10, is there a way to add a custom shortcut to switch workspaces?
[00:45] <bklive> afflicto-laptop: yes, use compiz config from software centre and add a shortcut key to Expo
[00:46] <afflicto-laptop> bklive: ah cool thanks
[00:47] <afflicto-laptop> bklive: oh.. I forgot to mention i'm using gnome 3 though
[00:48] <leptone> _cronus_,  thx your the man/woman/titan!!
[00:53] <ring0> afflicto-laptop, how about this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/21/workspace-indicator/
[00:55] <MrHacks> URGENT HELP REQUEST!
[00:55] <MrHacks> For some reason Ubuntu FORGETS my screen settings completely
[00:57] <MrHacks> I have a brand new Samsung 22" HDTV with HDMI ports on the back.  The resolution should be 1920x1080 at a rate of 60 Hz. But for some reason during the day this resolution is reduced to 800x600 and there is no way to get xrandr to fix it
[00:57] <tomasm-> hi, why is it that I can't view this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111728 , even with being logged in?
[00:57] <tomasm-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283 rather
[00:59] <bcbc2> tomasm-: probably been jailed by mods
[00:59] <tomasm-> I have ubuntu 10.04 and am trying to run ffmpeg with mp3 support, but libmp3lame isnt installed, and it doesnt seem to be in any repo that's enabled. but I see restricted listed in /etc/apt/sources.list . any ideas?
[00:59] <tomasm-> bcbc2, ME? or the post? I haven't posted anything
[00:59] <tomasm-> ever
[00:59] <bcbc2> tomasm-: the thread
[01:00] <tomasm-> anyone know what repo libmp3lame is in, and how I can add that repo to my system? all I have is command line access (this is 10.04, a server)
[01:01]  * MrHacks questions why I ever come here for help. What am I chopped liver?!
[01:02] <MrHacks> PI EQUALS FOUR!
[01:02] <MrHacks> Did someone enable voice?
[01:03] <MrHacks> HELLO!
[01:05] <bcbc2> tomasm-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13737/what-packages-do-i-install-for-ffmpeg-and-libmp3lame
[01:06] <bcbc2> tomasm-: looks like multiverse
[01:07] <_cronus_> tomasm-, i think libmp3lame0 was in multiverse repository in 10.04
[01:08] <tomasm-> ok so libmp3lame0 is installed, but ffmpeg still doesnt recognize it (even after uninstalling and re-installing ffmpeg)
[01:09] <DJJeff> "sni-qt/4636" WARN 15:49:32.787 void StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to SNW_SERVICE
[01:09] <DJJeff> I seriously think ubuntu is BREAKING more then its fixing shit
[01:10] <DJJeff> sudo apt-get -y remove --purge qt-at-spi
[01:10] <DJJeff> is suppose to fix this but does not
[01:11] <DJJeff> we should want the safety and security of 12.04+ but have the stability of 10.10 *sigh*
[01:12] <sebsebseb>  
[01:12] <DJJeff> what happened Ubuntu.... you once were "COOL"
[01:14] <t0ntin> Hi, all! Update manager is giving me an error when trying to download updates. How can I install the important security updates only?
[01:14] <aline> hello!
[01:14] <sebsebseb> aline: hi
[01:14] <tomasm-> ok, i got multiverse installed and libmp3lame0, but ffmpeg still doesnt recognize it. almost like it's not bothering to try.... maybe i'm missing something?
[01:14] <api984> did anyone try Z-PUSH, Funambol or OpenChange?
[01:16] <callmea> salut
[01:16] <tomasm-> hmmm, ffmpeg -formats | grep mp3 shows "DE" (decode/encode), so I don't get why it doesn't like it. codec id 86017 not found
[01:17] <callmea> Je me posais une question, j'ai un nom de domaine que je n'utilise pas et je voudrais avoir des avis. j'envisage de faire une sorte de database de documentations de sources opensource à destination des developpeurs.
[01:17] <callmea> Aussi bien web que applicatifs. vous en pensez quoi?
[01:18] <tomasm-> oh wait seems to work now..... was missing libavcodec-extra-52 (whatever that is)
[01:18] <sam113101> que #ubuntu-fr serait plus approprié
[01:20] <callmea> Sam : Merci je croyais que j étais sur le -fr :). Sorry everybody i thought i was on the french channel :=
[01:20] <callmea> :)
[01:21] <tomasm-> callmea, en anglais?
[01:22] <callmea> tomasm-,  Yes in english and french
[01:22] <callmea> :)
[01:30] <Neptu> hej someone knows how to get the system services?
[01:31] <Ferkswe> Uhmm. I have a slight problem. I installed gnome, following a neat guide and all, but I think there's something wrong with something. My background looks like something taken out of minecraft :S
[01:33] <Dataoriginal> Hello everyone
[01:35] <Ferkswe> I'm quite sure that my desk shouldn't look like this. http://i.imgur.com/VkhzrgK.png Image is extra wide due to having two monitors
[01:36] <usr13> Ferkswe: What video card do you have?
[01:37] <Ferkswe> usr13: Some Ati thing. Got a command to check? :)
[01:38] <Ferkswe> Also, my keyboard settings seem to keep reverting back to english from swedish
[01:38] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there any other way to get a Desktop-zoom function (like in Compiz) without actually using Compiz?
[01:39] <usr13> Ferkswe:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga
[01:40] <usr13> Ferkswe: Ctrl-Alt-F6  login and do:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga  and  grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #See what video card and what driver you are using.
[01:40] <Cyan> hey. sup. i'm having a minor issue involving the LTS, UEFI, and grub.... i'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8 but for whatever reason 12.04 can't detect my UEFI partition.... it gave me an error saying something about it requiring a partition marked as reserved for bios
[01:40] <usr13> Ferkswe: tell us:  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga |pastebinit  & grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[01:40] <usr13> Ferkswe: Send URLs
[01:41] <Ferkswe> usr13: It just replies No such file or directory
[01:41] <Cyan> i installed 12.10 the other day without a hitch. i didn't stick with it because apparently fglrx is broken
[01:42] <usr13> Ferkswe: What command?  lspci |grep -i vga
[01:42] <usr13> ?
[01:42] <Ferkswe>  /sbin/lspci |grep -i vga
[01:42] <Ferkswe> Added the missing space before grep too
[01:42] <usr13> Ferkswe: lspci |grep -i vga
[01:43] <Ferkswe> Ah gotcha
[01:43] <Ferkswe> Mobility Radeon HD 4650
[01:43] <usr13> grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:45] <usr13> Ferkswe: How are you getting this?  From tty6 or ssh from another PC? Or _________________?
[01:45] <Ferkswe> usr13: I'm at my pc, everything else works fine. It's just the background and the icons (except the network one)
[01:45] <Ferkswe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600752/
[01:47] <usr13> Ferkswe: xrandr |pastebinit
[01:47] <Ferkswe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600756/
[01:48] <usr13> Ferkswe: How are these two monitors connected?  (What kind of cables?)
[01:48] <Ferkswe> One hdmi one vga
[01:49] <usr13> Ferkswe: Is this a Desktop PC?
[01:49] <usr13> Ferkswe: What version of Ubuntu is installed?
[01:49] <Ferkswe> The vga one goes through a docking port, but afaik it connects to the regular vga
[01:49] <Ferkswe> Laptop. 12.10
[01:49] <usr13> Ferkswe: Fully updated?
[01:49] <Ferkswe> Ya
[01:50] <usr13> Ferkswe: If not, do:  sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <Ferkswe> usr13: I think so atleast. let me doubblecheck.
[01:52] <Ferkswe> It's doing it's thing with the updates and stuff
[01:53] <usr13> Ferkswe: Mean time, let's see;  To the laptop's own monitur, looks like it's setting up a screen size of 1366x768. Out of the VGA port it is sending a screen size of 1280x1024. And out of the HDMI port: 1920x1080  Hummmm.... does all that sound right for the three monitors?
[01:54] <Ferkswe> Well, laptops monitor is disabled. Only supports running two monitors at once (atleast it did in windows, when I tred in ubuntu earlier, I got bad results)
[01:54] <usr13> Ferkswe: Do they all look the same?
[01:54] <Ferkswe> usr13: same as in_
[01:55] <usr13> Ferkswe: Same as in looking the same.  What do you see? (With your eyeballs :)
[01:55] <usr13> Do the two displays show the same distorted screen?
[01:56] <Ferkswe> usr13: Exactly what's on the picture, The pixeled background and stuff. I might add that on the last reboot, background was pixeled but not in the same way.
[01:56] <Ferkswe> usr13: Yes.
[01:57] <usr13> Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1366x768 correct for the display that is connected to the VGA port?
[01:58] <usr13> Sorry, it's 1280x1024
[01:58] <usr13> Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1280x1024 correct for the display that is connected to the VGA port?
[01:58] <Ferkswe> usr13:  Yes
[01:58] <usr13> Ferkswe: Is the screen size of 1920x1080 correct for the display that is connected to the HDMI port?
[01:59] <Ferkswe> It wants 1280x1024 @ 60Hz
[01:59] <Ferkswe> usr13: Yes.
[02:00] <Ferkswe> Hm. I just noticed. When I try to open the menu on my actual screen, it says Monitor controls locked. Interesting. I guess Ubuntu handles them?
[02:00] <usr13> Ferkswe: How are the updates coming along?
[02:00] <Ferkswe> Seems to be stuck at reading package lists
[02:00] <usr13> Ferkswe: "actual screen"?
[02:00] <Ferkswe> Fetched 374 kB in 4s (75,7 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done
[02:01] <Ferkswe> usr13: YOu know, the menu you access when you click the buttons on the screen itself_
[02:01] <usr13> Ferkswe: This PC *is* connected to the internet, Right?
[02:01] <alfwed> hi
[02:01] <Ferkswe> Yes.
[02:01] <Ferkswe> I'm on it right now. Talking to you :D
[02:01] <alfwed> May I ask a question?
[02:02] <usr13> Ferkswe: Are you on a tty?
[02:02] <usr13> Ferkswe: tty6?  tty5?  tty4?  ____________?
[02:02] <usr13> Ferkswe: Or tty7?  (The GUI?)
[02:03] <usr13> Ferkswe: OH, this is a Desktop Background image that is distorted?
[02:03] <Ferkswe> Uhm. No idea? I mean, I'm sitting right infront of the computer, logged into it.
[02:03] <ASmath> I have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Noyhing happende..
[02:03] <Ferkswe> usr13: Yup.
[02:04] <ASmath> happened*** Please.. can anybody tell me something?
[02:04] <phenrique> is there a tutorial de installation of subversion on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:04] <usr13> Ferkswe: Ok, I think I've got it.  The Desktop Background image is pixelated.  Ok.  I'm starting to catch on now.  Sorry. I'm kinda dense sometimes.
[02:04] <leptone> alfed, dont "ask to ask" you have a better chance of a response if you just ask your question. try to be concise but thorough
[02:04] <ASmath> **something
[02:04] <Ferkswe> usr13: I probably could have explained it a little bit better too.
[02:04] <alfwed> phenrique, sudo apt-get install svn
[02:04] <Ferkswe> usr13: The background image, and the icons at the top.
[02:05] <usr13> Ferkswe: Try a different image. (Maybe a very large (high resolution image).
[02:05] <jpmh> I have a system, I am on it now, hat has THREE bootable systems on it, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu.  They are all configured vastly differently because each is a copy of a running system that is installed in hundreds of installations.  If I change /etc/default/grub and run grub-update, nothing changes.  What should I be changing?
[02:05] <Ferkswe> usr13: Thing is, when logging in the image is fine, but then, right before the menu thing starts it becomes pixelated
[02:05] <alfwed> leptone, k thanks
[02:06] <ASmath> jpmh: So redundant.. No offense..
[02:06] <usr13> Ferkswe: What Desktop Environment is it?
[02:06] <usr13> Ferkswe: Is it Unity?
[02:06] <Ferkswe> usr13: gnome 3
[02:06] <alfwed> I've added a ppa to install php5.4 with this command 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5' but when i try to update php, apt tells me it's already up to date. What am I doing wrong?
[02:07] <usr13> Ferkswe: Do you have another you can try?  Like Unity or Xfce or Lxde ?
[02:07] <alfwed> I've installed it a few days ago on another machine and it worked fine... I don't understand...
[02:07] <Ferkswe> Well, it's a fresh system. It started with Unity, which I replaced with Gnome.
[02:07] <ASmath> I have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Nothing happened..  Can anybody help me?
[02:07] <Ferkswe> Unity didn't have these problems
[02:08] <Mrokii> Is there a way to change the destination of the "standard" folder-icons in the Nautilus-sidebar (like Videos, Pictures, etc)? So that they point to somewhere else instead of the home folder?
[02:08] <leptone> whats the ubuntu equivlent of ctrl+alt+delete
[02:08] <usr13> Ferkswe: I really don't know.  I'm just grasping at straws here.  I'm thinking that it is just a pixelated image though.
[02:08] <Ferkswe> usr13: But it's not. Hold on
[02:08] <ASmath> usr13: KDE...
[02:08] <gb74> hello
[02:09] <usr13> Ferkswe: It's KDE?
[02:09] <gb74> does touch have its own channel?
[02:10] <alfwed> How can I be sure my ppa is taken into account by apt-get?
[02:10] <jpmh> ASmath: Give me a better way that I can have "exact copies that boot, exactly as they do in the stores I support"  I would love to avoid that but can not come up with a method by which I can do a sales and/or support call
[02:10] <usr13> Ferkswe: What ever it is, I think I'd either change the Desktop background first.  If that doesn't do it, I'd just try another DE
[02:10] <Ferkswe> usr13: It's gnome.
[02:11] <jpmh> ASmath: actually the Xununtu is a POS system and the Lubuntu is a Kiosk system for coffee shops, the Ubuntu is mine.  The sales staff all have the same setup so they can boot and show the customer exactly what he will see
[02:11] <usr13> Ferkswe: Try another DE.  Unity or Xfce or Lxde or ....?
[02:11] <ethana3> So, I've been trying to get my logitech dual action gamepad working for a while, and I have given up on googling, as all solutions i've found have failed
[02:11] <Ferkswe> Isn't unity still gnome, just a plugin/addonthing? (I think i read that somewhere today)
[02:12] <ethana3> if I buy a PS3 or Xbox360 controller, will it Just
[02:12] <ethana3> Work**
[02:12] <ASmath> jpmh: Interesting!
[02:12] <Ferkswe> brb.
[02:12] <usr13> Ferkswe: I really don't know.  I'm just grasping at straws.  Maybe someone else on here can give you some advise.
[02:12] <jpmh> ASmath: so, do you have a better approach ?
[02:13] <ASmath> jpmh: My backtrack became Ubuntu LL.. Anyway. Exist a bootloader that can give you a graphical boot mode it may can be useful..
[02:14]  * saintlulu loves the Ubuntu community people who help each other all the time.  Thanks everybody!
[02:15] <jpmh> ASmath: not sure what you mean - please explain.  What I would like to be able to do is set the POS salesman so his default is the POS system and the Kiosl salesman so his is the Kiosk and mine of course to be REAL ubuntu
[02:17] <Taev> what software would i need, and how would i do it if i wanted to set music files on my webserver to stream
[02:17] <Taev> instead of having to be downloaded
[02:18] <ASmath> jpmh: Sorry.. I did not understand what you want to do.. Exist three O.S. and do you want to be able to use all of the in the same time?
[02:20] <ferkswe> usr13: Changed the picutre now, and relogged, Here's the original
[02:20] <jpmh> ASmath: No - I specifically DO NOT WANT all three at once.  I want that when I am operating as  a POS system that I am running a system that is the same as my POS customers, same OS, same apps, etc.  I just want to be able to set the default that will come up other than the first
[02:20] <ferkswe> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CarNcodpCMA/TMttARKIlYI/AAAAAAAAJlI/HAaYj4ecRYY/s1600/mushroom-graphicsfairy004b.jpg
[02:20] <ferkswe> And here's what it turned into i.imgur.com/37bEuto.jpg
[02:21] <sam113101> wayyyy cooler
[02:21] <sam113101> it's psychedelic, I like it
[02:22] <ASmath> jpmh: Just a second..
[02:22] <ASmath> sam113101: :|
[02:23] <jpmh> ASmath: ty - please bare in mind that the issue seems to be that I somehow have a loader other than the grub one that I think I have since the /etc/default/grub does not seem to be what happens
[02:23] <sam113101> ferkswe: it doesn't do that with unity, right? only with gnome?
[02:23] <usr13> ferkswe: Ok, so the image is 1,423px × 1,600px
[02:24] <usr13> sam113101: I think that is correct.  He said it looked ok in Unity.  Right ferkswe ?
[02:24] <sam113101> because I had the same thing with gnome
[02:24] <seanlee> anyone using ubuntu in vagrant? I have some trouble setting it up...
[02:24] <ASmath> jpmh: Have a look: http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-configfile.html it may can be useful..
[02:25] <usr13> ferkswe: It is a gnome issue.  I would say that you should ask at #gnome
[02:25] <usr13> ferkswe: /join #gnome
[02:25] <sam113101> yeah exactly
[02:25] <ASmath> jpmh: It is transmissible.. Do not mind the O.S.
[02:25] <usr13> I don't have a clue.... (I don't use that DE so I'm kind-of, not much help...)
[02:26] <ferkswe> usr13: sam113101 Okay, will do that tomorrow. It's waay too late here right now.
[02:26] <ferkswe> usr13: Thanks for helping, or atleast trying to!
[02:26] <SunStar> you want to edit the drub bootloader default OS?
[02:26] <usr13> ferkswe: I understand.  Sorry we couldn't be more help.
[02:27] <ferkswe> Have a great night everyone!
[02:27] <ASmath> ferkswe: You too.. It is rare...
[02:28] <ASmath> jpmh: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html it is a better way to learn about your problem..
[02:29] <ASmath> dr_willis: Can you see my problem?
[02:29] <ASmath> dr_willis: I have a big trouble.. After I had installed ubuntu-desktop in my backtrack by a command line, without see it, my backtrack became ubuntu... I am mad!!! How can I come back to KDE and uninstall everything? I already run # remove ubuntu-desktop, Nothing happened..
[02:32] <jpmh> ASmath: I suspect that my issue is that the real grub that is being executed is on the /dev/sda1 but I am actually running on /dev/sda7 which is on an extended /dev/sda2 - really I suspect now that my question becomes, how do I update that one
[02:32] <ASmath> bazhang: It is a good way to joinin a webchat without the ip.. I do not know hot to do that..
[02:33] <ASmath> jpmh: Try boot in the sda7 sda2 and do that one by one..
[02:34] <SOwhoisntme> Hello ubuntu. I'm interested in tweaking a dpkg package. Am I correct that the .debian.tar.gz files are as a rule under no form of version control (other the fact that they normally contain a series of quilt patches).
[02:35] <cryosphere> my question - http://pastebin.com/vYWXhxqD
[02:35] <sam113101> what's the prefered way to launch applications at boot?
[02:36] <sam113101> I tried "startup applications" but it doesn't seem to work
[02:36] <twmb> every time I try to pass "install auto=true priority=critical url=http://my.url.com/seed.file" I get the message "invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[02:36] <cryosphere> sam113101: /etc/init.d
[02:36] <ASmath> jpmh: If you want to put all of it in just one, have  to update with the command "grub-update" or "grub2".. normally is automatically..
[02:36] <sam113101> just want to run xmodmap
[02:36] <jpmh> ASmath: what do you mean - right now I am running off /dev/sda7
[02:37] <sam113101> so when my session launches
[02:37] <jpmh> ASmath: Messages crossed there - I suspect I need to grub-update the one on /dev/sda1 but how do I do that?
[02:38] <cryosphere> any takers?
[02:40] <ASmath> jpmh: I am not an expert in ubuntu.. I would like help you, meantime, I do not know. I have one question here too.. Nobody can answer.
[02:41] <jpmh> ASmath: ty for the try anyway
[02:42] <_cronus_> ASmath, have you tried apt-get autoremove after you removed ubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <alexandros_c> how to remove linux 3.5.0-26 from ubuntu that was installed but  not configured?
[02:42] <ASmath> The way is listen to Tchaikovsky and try..
[02:43] <ASmath> _cronus_: Yes...
[02:44] <ihre> After every reboot I recieve the following error when I try to access it with ssh: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". How can I fix this ?
[02:44] <tomasm-> why is it that ffmpeg has moved to the avconv fork, and yet speaks of deprecation? I mean why not just have two tools? avconv is broken. is there a way to get the REAL ffmpeg for ubuntu 12.10?
[02:44] <ASmath> _cronus_: continue in gnome environment and a lot of useless programs..
[02:46] <ASmath> actually I liked the ubuntu LL environment.. I like KDE anyway.
[02:46] <_cronus_> ASmath, maybe grep ' install ' /var/log/dpkg.log will give you a hint on what to remove next
[02:46] <BlackWeb> I'm running into a problem with a 3TB hard Drive wondering if anyone could help me out, I installed a Brand New Drive, Which First i did "parted -a optimal (Device)"; mklabel gpt; mkpart; start0% End100%; quit; Then mkfs.ext (Device/partition) Which Doing it this way I'm running into Input/Output Error, So I tried creating the filesystem through parted and received a similar error stating Unable to Read SuperBlock or similar to tha
[02:46] <BlackWeb> t
[02:47] <BlackWeb> Any Ideas?
[02:47] <ASmath> _cronus_: Grep?
[02:48] <Taev> you may want to see if the kernel or the Flavor can support a 3TB drive BlackDex
[02:48] <_cronus_> ASmath, just an idea...
[02:48] <Taev> er BlackWeb
[02:48] <Taev> back in the day i bought a brand new 40gb HD
[02:48] <Taev> and linux's kernel didnt support it yett
[02:48] <Taev> didnt matter how i partitioned it
[02:48] <CrazyEyedMutt> hey anyone know the help room for hexchat?
[02:49] <CrazyEyedMutt> i have a registered name for xchat, but it didnt seem to register when i openned hexchat
[02:49] <ASmath> _cronus_: I will try and reboot.. I come back later.. Thank you.
[02:49] <BlackWeb> Alright ya its weird, I build 2 new systems same specs, 1 is running 12.04 Server, & other 12.04 Standard, & 3TB Hard Drive worked on server but cant get it to work on standard
[02:51] <CrazyEyedMutt> does windows have terminal support in powershell like linux? and a community that supports freely like ubuntu? i mean willl they help windows users like ubuntu helps?
[02:51] <Nach0z> urm
[02:52] <Nach0z> CrazyEyedMutt: terminal ain't really powershell, they're kinda different animals
[02:52] <CrazyEyedMutt> i owuld have thought ubuntu would help more - hm - this is a strange night - ubuntu is almost always very responsive.  maybe next time
[02:52] <Nach0z> that being said, if you fire up cygwin or msys or some such, I'm sure you could find people willing to help in the linux channels. apart from that, ask in the windows channel
[02:52] <Nach0z> ... or no
[02:52] <Nach0z> nvm :|
[02:53] <Nanaharu> On my old computer I had made it so that I could dual boot ubuntu and ubuntu. Now that I was able to purchase a second computer for ubuntu, I no longer need the ubuntu partition on my other computer. Does anyone know how to get rid of ubuntu? I'd like to just start over kind of?
[02:53] <Nanaharu> ***Dual boot windows and ubuntu...
[02:54] <ciukko> hi
[02:54] <Jason> how can I get those floodbots that ubuntu's channel uses?
[02:54] <Nach0z> um
[02:54] <Nach0z> Nanaharu: which windows
[02:54] <Nanaharu> windows 7
[02:55] <Nach0z> alright then, first off
[02:55] <Nach0z> boot win7, go to disk manager
[02:55] <Nanaharu> okay~
[02:55] <ciukko> me pari un disk manager
[02:55] <Nach0z> right-click the little 100MB partition (windows's SYSTEM partition, it's win7's boot manager)
[02:55] <Nach0z> set it to active
[02:55] <jrib> LjL: you have a customer (see Jason)
[02:55] <Nanaharu> okay~
[02:55] <Nach0z> reboot, see if GRUB still appears. if not, you're good for step two. I'd start there though
[02:55] <Jason> jrib: thought it may be ljl
[02:56] <ciukko> acr
[02:56] <Jason> jrib: he gave em to me one time before: i lost it :P
[02:56] <Nanaharu> whats step 2?
[02:56] <jrib> Jason: I don't know if he's released the source though, but he'd be the first person to talk to
[02:56] <Jason> jrib: yeah, i've had it before
[02:56] <Jason> jrib: just lost the code.  i'm sure there have been updates
[02:56] <ciukko> pizza time
[02:56] <jrib> Jason: probably sleeping at this time (he's in italy)
[02:56] <Nach0z> Nanaharu: step two is deleting the ubuntu partition and expanding the windows one, but if you do that before you get step one working, you'll have a brick essentially
[02:57] <Nanaharu> Oh okay~ so if the grub shows up then that means I'll run into the brick?
[02:57] <Nach0z> if grub shows up, then you gotta keep trying
[02:57] <tomasm-> can anyone explain why avconv claims to function as 'ffmpeg', and says ffmpeg is obsolete, when it seems to be a political issue rather than practical issue? ie refusing to package the ffmpeg core and having this seeming (broken) fork replace it
[02:57] <Nach0z> basically either the win7 boot screen will appear, or grub will
[02:58] <Nach0z> once you get it so that grub doesn't appear you can just get rid of the ubuntu partition
[02:58] <twmb> Does anybody here use preseed files ever?
[02:58] <Nanaharu> Oh okay~ so by making the windows partition active the way that you said, should allow that?
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: In a Wubi install a preseed config is required for the installation to work.
[02:59] <Nach0z> emphasis on should.
[02:59] <Nanaharu> Okay~ if it doesn't can I use a program like gparted to do the same thing?
[02:59] <Nach0z> Nanaharu: if I were you, I'd go ahead and burn either a gparted liveCD, or a supergrub2disk, before doing any of that, if you're worried about messing things up
[02:59] <Nach0z> gparted might do the same thing too, haven't tried from there recently
[03:00] <twmb> SonikkuAmerica: I'm trying to use a custom seed file hosted on a website, but every time I try to use my command I get the response "invalid kernel image" or something
[03:00] <Nanaharu> I've already backed up all my files, and I'm not incredibly worried if everything blows up, it would just be nice if things go smoothely ^.^
[03:00] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: What kernel are you trying to write for?
[03:00] <twmb> ubuntu 12.10
[03:00] <twmb> http://mobilemd.cs.uwec.edu/ncur/mobile.seed
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !kernel | twmb
[03:01] <stan879nz> hello im having trouble login i have no gui i can login using ctrl +f2 and rdpx has stopped workin
[03:01] <Nach0z> Nanaharu: then yeah, just fire up disk manager and set the little partition to active
[03:01] <twmb> 386
[03:01] <twmb> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386
[03:01] <Nanaharu> nach0z : awesome~! Thanks~!
[03:02] <Nach0z> np.
[03:02]  * Nach0z -> sleep
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: Do  uname -r  in a terminal
[03:02] <stan879nz> how do i get back my gui?
[03:02] <lb27> stan879nz: how did you lose it?
[03:03] <stan879nz> not sure?
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Did you lose it after a reboot?
[03:03] <stan879nz> yes
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Do you recall needing to reboot for a special reason?
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> (such as an update)
[03:04] <ciukko> bukkake
[03:04] <stan879nz> yes i think so
[03:04] <ciukko> goatse
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: What's the result of  uname -r ?
[03:04] <ciukko> tupac
[03:04] <twmb> from using the try without installing,
[03:04] <ciukko> 2pac
[03:04] <twmb> 3.5.0-17-generic
[03:05] <stan879nz> that would have been the only reason
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Were you using a proprietary graphics card driver?
[03:05] <twmb> SonikkuAmerica: 3.5.0-17-generic (try without installing, don't know if that makes a difference)
[03:06] <stan879nz> umm im not to sure i have a nvidia 610 gt
[03:06] <io7g> dD0T
[03:06] <stan879nz> i tryed to intall drivers
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: It most certainly does... the latest kernel for 12.10 is 3.5.0-23-generic (I think, someone help me out here)
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Well there you go... so it appears whatever drivers you used didn't work.
[03:07] <stan879nz> is there a way to remove?
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: How did you install the drivers?
[03:07] <twmb> SonikkuAmerica: Does it make a difference if it's not fully installed? This is the latest ISO from the ubuntu.com/download website, I used UNetBootIn to put it on a flash drive, and I'm using the current "try without installing" option
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: I probably couldn't tell you until you actually installed the thing somewhere
[03:08] <stan879nz> nvidia site
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Shell script?
[03:09] <cryosphere> my question - http://pastebin.com/vYWXhxqD
[03:09] <cryosphere> any takeers
[03:10] <john_rambo> I am trying to convert a flv video to 3gp with Mobile Media Converter but I am getting this error >>>> http://pastebin.com/j4XGET08
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: At any rate, we'll need to head for a console (terminal)
[03:10] <Pinkamena_D> if i add something to /etc/rc.local to be run at startup, do i have to put sudo before each line or does it run as root by default?
[03:10] <patri> test....
[03:12] <stan879nz> i just foung y i have no rdpx ethernet was unpluged
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: What?
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Is that *found *out?
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the easiest way to do this is to restore the xorg.conf.backup file the shell script made when it installed the driver
[03:13] <tomasm-> hey who do I complain to about the issue with packages or the lack thereof?
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: so run  ls /etc/X11/  and pastebin the result
[03:15] <stan879nz> ok so i can get the gui from rdpx but if i use a screen thats plugin to the pc i have no gui
[03:15] <dannyjoris> I've been trying to set up Ubuntu server on my Mac 10.6.8 using virtualbox, but both th 32 and 64 bit versions failed. linux-generic-lts-quantal errors mostly. I'd love to learn more about setting up Ubuntu servers, but I can't even get it running in virtualbox
[03:15] <stan879nz> ok ill try and do that paste bin
[03:15] <dannyjoris> any suggestions?
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> tomasm-: What do you mean, the "issue with packages"?
[03:16] <stan879nz> ls /etc/X11/ no such file or dir
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Are you sure this is Ubuntu Desktop and not Ubuntu Server?
[03:17] <tomasm-> SonikkuAmerica, I've been trying to use ffmpeg to convert flac to mp3, but due to some political drama, debian/ubuntu is using 'avconv' which is NOT ffmpeg, but names it that, and refuses to package the actual 'ffmpeg' tool. they're are inconsistent and avconv is broken in my case.
[03:17] <tomasm-> someone needs to put the core ffmpeg back into the repos
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> tomasm-: Do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[03:19] <stan879nz> mmm how can i tell the difference between server and destop?
[03:19] <lb27> tomasm-: barring everything else, you could still compile ffmpeg for as long as you have a copy
[03:20] <tomasm-> lb27, I can survive, I just want to make it clear that packaging avconv as ffmpeg is a mistake and I'm not pleased
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Run this:  lsb_release -a
[03:20] <escott> stan879nz, you can have a system that is server+desktop so "tell the difference" isn't a very well defined question
[03:20] <lb27> tomasm-: I've seen a prompt about them phasing out ffmpeg for a while, but it appeared to be similar, where are you running into differences? asking because i sometimes use that as well
[03:21] <stan879nz> Description ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: Oops, I goofed. Here's the command:  cat /etc/motd
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: If there's process information under the "Welcome to Ubuntu!" message it's server.
[03:22] <tomasm-> lb27, it's only being 'phased out' for political reasons. the ffmpeg package is actively developed and in fact better than avconv.... there was a whole political drama a few years back and debian/ubuntu have sided with avconv, which I find not wise since avconv is broken. specifically in my case, converting flac to mp3, the ID3 track length is way off, ie a 2 minute song says 10 minutes or whatever. just broken and unacceptable for my use (co
[03:22] <tomasm-> mmercial web app).
[03:23] <escott> SonikkuAmerica, unless someone changes motd in which case it doesn't tell stan879nz anything
[03:23] <escott> stan879nz, why does it matter if something is server or desktop, considering they could just install ubuntu-desktop on a server or apache on a desktop
[03:24] <escott> stan879nz, if you knew why it mattered that would provide a direct answer to your real question which is how to make whatever you are sitting at act the way you want
[03:24] <escott> !xy | stan879nz
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I actually doubt stan879nz is running a server-only, GUI-less infrastructure, given that his GUI died after an update.
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> I probably made the problem into a giant snowball.... :\
[03:26] <stan879nz> ok
[03:26] <twmb> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah this preseed stuff definitely isn't working as it used to for me :/
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> twmb: To tell you the truth, I'm not exactly an expert on preseed files. :\
[03:29] <SonikkuAmerica> stan879nz: We might start with  sudo startx
[03:30] <stan879nz> ok from what i can see is that there is a problem with my gfx card not showing the gui at all. i have install a driver that has not worked and i cant find it, or remember what it is, i am using rdpx to mask the problem and get a gui is there a way to restore my gfx card driver to default?
[03:32] <escott> SonikkuAmerica, sudo startx is generally a very bad idea (TM)
[03:33] <escott> stan879nz, what is rdpx, i'm not familiar with it. does it provide rdp? does it include an x server?
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> escott: Is there a better command? There is  sudo service $SERVICE start
[03:34] <stan879nz> yes it is a rdp i thing it does provide a xserver
[03:34] <escott> SonikkuAmerica, the problem with sudo startx is that it starts an interactive graphical shell as root (as opposed to a display manager), and that it does so within the users current home directory and environment
[03:34] <stan879nz> think*
[03:34] <escott> stan879nz, so if it provides its own x server it more than likely does so purely in software and would not utilize any graphics cards on your system
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> escott: Oh... so it's better to invoke the DM as a service...?
[03:35] <escott> SonikkuAmerica, yes. ie sudo service lightdm [or gdm] [re]start
[03:35]  * SonikkuAmerica nods to escott
[03:36] <stan879nz> yes thats what i thing  x server is bypassing the gfx card to give me a gui
[03:36] <stan879nz> on the remote machine
[03:36] <escott> stan879nz, (a) i dont know why you would do that as you could just install an x server on your client and tunnel X over the network (b) im confused as to why you have a graphics card in what is evidently a headless machine
[03:38] <escott> stan879nz, one thing that confuses many people about X is that the role of client and server are flipped. The client is the application running on the remote machine, it contacts the server which serves pixels on a display, but the server runs on the local machine
[03:38] <stan879nz> i put the gfx card i for "just in case but yes it is a headless machine
[03:39] <escott> stan879nz, so from a unix desktop with a working X gui you can "ssh -X user@remote" and then kick off gui programs by name "xclock" etc and they appear locally
[03:39] <escott> note that it is -X not -x
[03:40] <ELS> sup nerds
[03:40] <escott> stan879nz, if you want a remote session that persists beyond your ssh connection, and that has a full desktop, then you might want to look at something like VNC or FreeNX, both of which do require that an X server be running on the remote headless machine (but it can all be run in a framebuffer if you would like)
[03:42] <escott> stan879nz, my recommendation would be to remove the graphics card from your headless server (because its headless) and your difficulties should disappear
[03:42] <stan879nz> will do
[03:43] <escott> stan879nz, its not as if you expect to be able run a game like QuakeIII on your headless server and stream full rendered screens back across your network to a dumb client
[03:44] <escott> stan879nz, if you do decide you want the VNC/FreeNX experience then you will want to use a lightweight desktop such as unity-2d or lubuntu. ie something that does not use 3d effects on a desktop
[03:44] <escott> stan879nz, the driver you probably installed was probably nvidia-current or the like
[03:45] <escott> stan879nz, so you might want to remove that along with your card
[03:45] <tucemiux> what is all this talk that ubuntu is going to be closed source? o.O
[03:46] <escott> tucemiux, signs that you are losing your mind and hearing voices?
[03:47] <tucemiux> escott, have you heard of Mir ?
[03:47] <escott> yes
[03:48] <tucemiux> I've been waiting for Wayland for a long whiles now and was been waiting on a video card that supports wayland, if ubuntu goes Mir then I'll probably stop using ubuntu
[03:48] <escott> as will i, but that doesnt make it closed source
[03:50] <tucemiux> you mean 13.04 will be developed like always?
[03:51] <fermuch> hello
[03:52] <tucemiux> !hello | fermuch
[03:52] <tucemiux> !hi
[03:52] <fermuch> is anyone here using HabitRPG?
[03:52] <fermuch> i'm seeking for a party :)
[03:52] <tucemiux> what's HabitRPG ?
[03:53] <fermuch> https://habitrpg.com/
[03:53] <escott> tucemiux, you can have a legitimate complaint about the direction ubuntu is headed, but you shouldn't throw FUD like "closed source" around. Mir is GPL licensed as is the majority of the software canonical makes. in any case you should take further conversation about that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:53] <fermuch> mcored: what's Mir?
[03:54] <tucemiux> fermuch, apparently its offtopic and we don't want to spam the channel with offtopic topics
[03:54] <Nach0z> thought it was a space program at some point
[03:54] <fermuch> tucemiux: oh, k
[03:54] <fermuch> then I'll join -offtopic
[03:55] <veryhappy> hi guys, is there a way to remove *EVERYTHING* except the needed base packages on ubuntu? like back to the deepest roots?
[03:55] <escott> veryhappy, probably be easier to just reinstall. also you need to define the base. do you mean ubuntu-minimal?
[03:56] <fermuch> veryhappy: do you mean ubuntu with graphical interface?
[03:56] <escott> veryhappy, alternately you could ask dpkg for a list of all packages and filter out anything that is not in base and then remove all those
[03:56] <fermuch> it's way cleaner to reinstall
[03:58] <veryhappy> escott: no it is not easier, it would take more time... i have a version of gnome 12.04 installed on my notebook and i upgraded from a cd with 11.10 so i first had to upgrade from version 11.10 to 12.04 then install kde and the stuff, but i actually wanna get back to the roots, so yea the minimal stuff that i can get everything removed until i can install kubuntu-minimal or something and then set everything up, i wanna use on this 
[03:58] <ItsMeLenny> i seem to be running into some sort of memory problem, when i run oberons AOS, when it hits about 150mb it crashes
[03:58] <veryhappy> arch linux except that i have to set every little piece of arch linux that i don't wanna do on here
[04:03] <escott> veryhappy, what you want to do sounds strange but filter out "apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal" from your removal list
[04:03] <veryhappy> escott: it's not strange, arch linux's concept is, only install what you need, so i don't need gnome at all, but i installed it before to try it out... then i didn't want to burn another cd with kubuntu, what the heck sounds strange about that?
[04:05] <veryhappy> escott: ok, so how do i install ubuntu-minimal now and remove the other stuff?
[04:06] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, you need the alternative installation cd
[04:07] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: what alternative installation cd?
[04:07] <ItsMeLenny> the ubuntu alt cd
[04:07] <xangua> veryhappy: so you want to uninstall gnome and keep kde¿
[04:08] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: ok for you again, i don't wanna burn a new cd right now and i can't neither
[04:08] <escott> veryhappy, dpkg -l will show what is installed, the apt-cache command will show what to keep
[04:08] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, install it onto a usb stick
[04:08] <veryhappy> escott: ok, well is kubuntu- and kde- the same stuff or a little bit different?
[04:09] <escott> veryhappy, kubuntu is ubuntu-minimal + kubuntu-desktop package which includes all the kde stuff
[04:09] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: even with a live cd install i wouldn't get the minimalistic install that i wanna have
[04:09] <janderson91z> hey, i need some help. when i fullscreen youtube videos the video just looks stretched instead of maximized. how can i fix that?
[04:09] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, i didnt say livecd
[04:09] <ItsMeLenny> i said alternate cd
[04:10] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: ok sorry about that, well i just want a minimalistic ubuntu system with a minimalistic kde-desktop system (i believe it's kde-workspace?)
[04:10] <veryhappy> and on top of that i set everything else up
[04:10] <bcbc2> veryhappy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:11] <escott> veryhappy, then you will have to define what you mean by "minimalistic kde-desktop" because there is no such package in ubuntu as far as i am aware
[04:11] <eN_Joy> repost: my ubuntu box is almost solely as a web server, that being said, port 80 is open, however my ufw.log shows from time to time, access to port 80 is blocked, how so?
[04:11] <veryhappy> escott: kde-workspace i think
[04:11] <ItsMeLenny> i think what you're wanting to do is harder than you think, particularly if you're just going to install kde on top of it
[04:11] <ItsMeLenny> why dont you just install openbox instead
[04:11] <escott> !find kde-workspace
[04:11] <eN_Joy>  e.g., http://paste.ubuntu.com/5589402/
[04:11] <fermuch> veryhappy: there's kdebase
[04:12] <escott> !info kde-workspace
[04:12] <veryhappy> yea
[04:12] <escott> that is hardly lightweight and minimalistic
[04:12] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, you are veryconfused
[04:12] <veryhappy> good that's what i wanted
[04:12] <veryhappy> :D veryconfused
[04:13] <veryhappy> nope i know exactly what i'm doing
[04:13] <escott> you may be confused but at least you are a happy confused person
[04:13] <escott> i suppose that is all one can ask for in life
[04:13] <veryhappy> escott: thanks
[04:13] <veryhappy> yea
[04:13] <veryhappy> guess so
[04:13] <fermuch> veryhappy: be aware. You can destroy your system if you don't do things right
[04:13] <ItsMeLenny> anyway, back to me :P
[04:13] <veryhappy> fermuch: all that can happen is i have to reinstall that
[04:14] <veryhappy> but i think i'm gonna use ItsMeLenny's tip and install ubuntu's minimal cd on a usb stick
[04:14] <fermuch> veryhappy: if you uninstall Xorg and all its dependencies you will have a pretty terminal
[04:14] <veryhappy> fermuch: i don't need a terminal i just wanted at the beginning a minimal system that i can set later up with all the stuff i only want
[04:14] <veryhappy> fermuch: got my idea?
[04:15] <fermuch> veryhappy: oh, so you want a more custom ubuntu?
[04:15] <veryhappy> fermuch: right man
[04:15] <veryhappy> fermuch: you finally got it
[04:16] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, its not ubuntu minimal, its ubuntu alternate, and theres an option to install minimal
[04:16] <fermuch> veryhappy: then you should try http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[04:16] <OerHeks> more custom  will be the answer of <bcbc2> veryhappy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:16] <fermuch> I used to have that installed on my netbook
[04:16] <veryhappy> what's the difference on there?
[04:16] <ItsMeLenny> i have !# on my notebook
[04:17] <OerHeks> alternate cd is discontinued, afaik
[04:17] <fermuch> OerHeks: ++
[04:17] <fermuch> ItsMeLenny: !# is debian based, right?
[04:17] <veryhappy> OerHeks got me right, i can use your link that's also what i wanted to do so i can decide what i want to do, besides i have more than just one notebook i also have 2 pc's that should be enough
[04:18] <veryhappy> what's !#?
[04:18] <fermuch> veryhappy: http://crunchbang.org/
[04:18] <ItsMeLenny> fermuch, yeah
[04:18] <veryhappy> ah got it
[04:18] <OerHeks> veryhappy, you might even want to take a server iso and build on top of that.
[04:19] <ItsMeLenny> unfortunately, because its hard to get it to have the same packages as my desktop, i like them to match
[04:19] <veryhappy> what's great about crunchbang?
[04:19] <ItsMeLenny> its just lightweight
[04:19] <fermuch> ItsMeLenny: I only use debian on my server, because its the packages are too old. Are you using unstable or something?
[04:19] <luck> anyone know how to get eBooks via irc?
[04:19] <veryhappy> OerHeks: that's a nice idea but that system is gonna be used as a programming system
[04:19] <fermuch> luck: what do you mean by getting ebooks via IRC? o.O
[04:19] <ItsMeLenny> fermuch, it doesnt have the latest pygame, thats basically my only complaint
[04:19] <veryhappy> OerHeks: should i already go with version 12.10?
[04:19] <ItsMeLenny> and no one would explain how i could update it
[04:19] <fermuch> ItsMeLenny: I know that feel
[04:19] <veryhappy> of ubuntu?
[04:20] <luck> fermuch: like for download...
[04:20] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, go with whichever version that makes you happy, im on 12.04 coz its an LTS release
[04:20] <fermuch> luck: but you know IRC is just for talking, right?
[04:20] <veryhappy> ah ok
[04:20] <veryhappy> and what's great about crunchbang?
[04:20] <holstein> luck: someone in an appropriate channel could link some for you or share
[04:20] <OerHeks> sure, 12.10 runs fine. i am on Kubuntu btw
[04:20] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, !# is lightweight
[04:20] <luck> fermuch: I do know that
[04:21] <luck> holstein: that is what i want
[04:21] <fermuch> veryhappy: the great point about crunchbang is its lightweight
[04:21] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: arch linux is so
[04:21] <fermuch> luck: and how do you want to get ebooks? With a bot?
[04:21] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, !# is based on debian and i prefer debian based distros
[04:21] <holstein> !ot | luck try here, or a channel where folks talk about ebooks..
[04:21] <luck> fermuch: I don't know
[04:21] <OerHeks> luck , http://ubuntu-manual.org/  and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ is a good start
[04:21] <veryhappy> so crunchbang is the arch linux that's debian based?
[04:21] <ItsMeLenny> no
[04:22] <ItsMeLenny> its got nothing to do with arch
[04:22] <fermuch> archlinux is a different distro
[04:22] <ItsMeLenny> its a lightweight distro based on debian
[04:22] <luck> OerHeks: thanks buddy
[04:22] <veryhappy> nope ItsMeLenny you got me wrong
[04:22] <xangua> veryhappy: ItsMeLenny and is not supported here
[04:22] <ItsMeLenny> xangua, pardon?
[04:23] <veryhappy> xangua: did you write something different than just this stupid comment? then shut it
[04:23] <holstein> ItsMeLenny: crunchbang is OT here.. they have a channel though..
[04:23] <ItsMeLenny> i know, i wasnt talking about it
[04:23] <luck> anyone ? who has ubuntu-sever experience??
[04:24] <ItsMeLenny> holstein, i'm here asking why AOS oberon crashes when it hits 150mb, and asking how i can dedicate more ram to it
[04:24] <fermuch> whats wrong with a little of off-topic chat when no one is asking questions, xangua ?
[04:24] <holstein> luck: the users in #ubuntu-server would.. do you have a question about ubuntu server?
[04:24] <veryhappy> i just mean arch linux's concept is to let you install what you want to install and installs just a minimal system that you have to setup for yourself, and i mean is crunchbang like that except that it's debian based?
[04:24] <holstein> ItsMeLenny: hopefully one of the volunteers can help you with that
[04:24] <veryhappy> ItsMeLenny: i just mean arch linux's concept is to let you install what you want to install and installs just a minimal system that you have to setup for yourself, and i mean is crunchbang like that except that it's debian based?
[04:25] <holstein> veryhappy: try and help us maintain the /topic
[04:25] <lxle> up for beta testing if anyone is interested, www.lxle.net
[04:25] <fermuch> veryhappy: archlinux is way more than that. ArchLinux introduces a different package manager, which is IMO their war-horse
[04:25] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, no, its just designed to be lightweight, each distro has its own philosophy, each distro usually provides a minimal version as well
[04:25] <avi44t> Hey folks can i run android sdk on ubuntu!
[04:26] <fermuch> avi44t: yes, you should download the SDK from android.com
[04:26] <holstein> avi44t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[04:26] <veryhappy> holstein: that was just a little question... nothing more, but thanks that i might not ask one silly question about something else
[04:26] <ItsMeLenny> is there a terminal command which allows me to dedicate a selected amount of ram to a program?
[04:27] <fermuch> ItsMeLenny: AFAIK no
[04:27] <veryhappy> ok guys, thanks for all the impressions so, i'm gonna get off before they tell me once a gain i might not speak about horses in hear or something else, that would REALLY be off-topic so, thanks for the tips with ubuntu-minimal and crunchbang, take care @ all the sane people in here...
[04:28] <veryhappy> ok guys, thanks for all the impressions so, i'm gonna get off before they tell me once a gain i might not speak about horses in hear or something else, that would REALLY be off-topic so, thanks for the tips with ubuntu-minimal and crunchbang, take care @ all the sane people in here...
[04:28] <FloodBot1> veryhappy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <ItsMeLenny> veryhappy, i think you will find that trying to build from a minimal base is harder than you think, you end up getting the minimal installed, then a DE, then nothing else runs
[04:28] <X-warrior> does anybody have any idea how to search something about this problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/97iwvu2x1j38kfv/2013-03-09%2022.40.57.jpg It seems to happens when writing to a ext4 disk
[04:28] <fermuch> X-warrior: what does fsck says?
[04:32] <barata> hello
[04:32] <alkaliv2> Hi everyone, can someone help me look into bug #1097946? I was attempting to create a crash report and when I try to submit it to the webpage it says 'Page Not Found'
[04:32] <X-warrior> fermuch, it is my os disk, so I need to boot with live cd to check it right?
[04:33] <fermuch> X-warrior: yes, you should
[04:33] <fermuch> X-warrior: but be cautious
[04:33] <fermuch> that happened to me some time before
[04:34] <fermuch> make a quick backup of your important data before you do anything
[04:38] <SilvereX> Is anybody able to help me update my graphics drivers?
[04:39] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, What version of Ubuntu are running and what type of graphics card is it?
[04:40] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Ubuntu 12.04, AMD Radeon HD 4850. My problem is a bit more than simply updating them
[04:40] <X-warrior> fermuch, the strange thing is, I was running ubuntu 11.04 and then formated to ubuntu 12.10, and on both the same problem is happening. let me create a bootable pendrive
[04:40] <fermuch> X-warrior: then your disk maybe is broken
[04:40] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, I'll bite, what issue are you having exactly?
[04:41] <X-warrior> is it possible to be the ntfs one?
[04:41] <fermuch> X-warrior: what do you mean by that?
[04:41] <X-warrior> I have 2 disks on it, one for data (ntfs 2tb) and one for os...
[04:42] <X-warrior> so I'm just trying to think which one is broken
[04:42] <fermuch> X-warrior: is the ntfs mounted at boot time?
[04:43] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Okay, so I've been having trouble with a couple of games. I can't run source games on steam (I get that RGB encode error message thing) and when playing Heroes of Newerth, I can't see the ground texture. I've heard that updating to the 13.1 drivers fix these issues. I downloaded it, removed my current drivers, then tried to generate a distribution-specific package. But when it finishes generating, after I click finish, it
[04:43] <SilvereX> says there was an error and removes it. I can install it using the general installer, but then when I restart my system, the driver is gone and it boots to the command line
[04:43] <luck> hello my friends, how to get into cdrom using terminal?
[04:43] <holstein> luck: try http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mount-drive-from-command-line-ubuntu-linux/
[04:44] <efuse> is there some hack or whatever to get unity at the bottom of the screen on 12.10?
[04:44] <efuse> i want unity, but I want it at the bottom, where it belongs
[04:44] <X-warrior> fermuch, it is on fstab... but that problem doesn't happen at boot... seems to happen when I'm doing some write operations... like downloading torrents
[04:44] <fermuch> efuse: AFAIK no, but you can use something else
[04:44] <efuse> I like Unity.
[04:44] <efuse> I just don't want it on the left side of the screen
[04:45] <efuse> no one has made some hack to move it? I find that hard to believe.
[04:45] <fermuch> X-warrior: then what does dmesg says?
[04:45] <holstein> efuse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[04:45] <holstein> efuse: http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[04:46] <efuse> holestien: doesn't work o 12.10, complains about the directory not existing
[04:46] <efuse> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[04:46] <fermuch> efuse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[04:46] <holstein> efuse: you can type "hol" and use tab to autocomplete my nick (and others)..
[04:46] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Ok before I get into my advice I wanted to say that if my advice isn't on par that # radeon and # radeonhd are the two official ATI driver support channels.  They may have better advice than me, but let me give it a go
[04:46] <efuse> holstein: I am aware
[04:47] <holstein> efuse: i would purge that ppa then
[04:47] <efuse> good idea, but that doesn't get me a proper unity launcher.
[04:47] <fermuch> efuse: «As of 12.04 you can not move the launcher, and there’s no official support for that.This is by design, and so far, there are no Canonical plans to change that.»
[04:47] <efuse> i don't care about cannoical's bad design. i just want a fix.
[04:47] <fermuch> efuse: then write it
[04:48] <holstein> efuse: http://www.linuxine.com/story/ubuntu-1210-move-dock-bottom suggests using another launcher.. i do too
[04:48] <efuse> not interested in investing that kind of time. has someone else done the work for me?
[04:48] <efuse> i don't want another launcher. i was very specific in my requets.
[04:48] <efuse> *request.
[04:48] <holstein> efuse: your request has an answer.. its not moveable in 12.10
[04:48] <efuse> why the fuck not?
[04:48] <fermuch> efuse: we are not here to fix a launcher for you
[04:48] <OerHeks> unity is hardcoded so good luck finding a solution
[04:48] <fermuch> efuse: if you dont want to invest your time fixing that, hire a developer for you
[04:48] <efuse> i don't get that, what is so bad about choice? i thought that was the whole idea behind linux?
[04:49] <holstein> efuse: watch the language please.. the volunteers here do not maintain unity
[04:49] <efuse> why can't I choose to have the launcher wherever I want?
[04:49] <fermuch> efuse: then choice another launcher
[04:49] <efuse> choice is a toggle to move the launcher.
[04:49] <holstein> efuse: we are talking about unity. not linux.. you can choose another launcher or DE.. or look at the code
[04:49] <efuse> choice is a toggle to move the launcher.
[04:49] <efuse> requesting one now.
[04:49] <efuse> this is a blocking bug.
[04:49] <holstein> !wishlise
[04:49] <holstein> !wishlist
[04:49] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, I can see you're trying to keep it clean by creating a .deb file which is good if it was a perfect system.  I would say that with the drivers completely removed and back to the stock ATI driver that you use the driver directly from the website compiled against your kernel
[04:49] <OerHeks> or brainstorm
[04:50] <holstein> efuse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist
[04:50] <fermuch> that is not a blocking bug. Change to another launcher if you don't like the way Unity works
[04:50] <efuse> It is a blocker. I like the way Unity works, quite a bit. I just don't want it on the side of my screen.
[04:50] <holstein> efuse: its not a bug at all.. its just not part of the design..
[04:50] <fermuch> that's not even a bug. That's a design problem
[04:50] <efuse> it's a blocker.
[04:51] <h00k> efuse: consider something like Docky, the launcher just simply doesn't do that
[04:51] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, it's a .run file so you'll have to "sh" it from the command line but I can link you to a guide if you want to try it
[04:51] <holstein> efuse: this is the support channel.. feel free and file a bug or wishlist
[04:51] <efuse> does docky give me the super-cool unity search thingy?
[04:51] <fermuch> no
[04:51] <efuse> well, that won't work.
[04:51] <h00k> efuse: there may be a plugin or something, I don't know.
[04:51] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Yeah, that'd be great
[04:52] <efuse> i want that search thing and the launcher at the bottom. I don't understand how this is unreasonable.
[04:52] <efuse> why does cannocial want to force a left sided launcher down my throat?
[04:52] <sean__> does any one know how to go about a netboot on a ppc G4 or what version of ubutnu/worhs best with this system?Linux
[04:52] <OerHeks> efuse lolz canonical does not.
[04:52] <holstein> efuse: the code is open, and its not unreasonable at all.. this is just not the place for you to complain.. its the support channel
[04:52] <fermuch> efuse: it is not unreasonable. It is just not thinked that way
[04:52] <sean__> */Linux works best?
[04:53] <h00k> efuse: we can't answer that question, you are free to try a different desktop environment, or another launcher.
[04:53] <efuse> i am not done.
[04:53] <h00k> efuse: Do you have any other support questions we can help you with?
[04:53] <efuse> i want someone to either write a fix or link me to one.
[04:53] <holstein> !ot | efuse
[04:53] <efuse> i will not rest until justice is delivered
[04:53] <fermuch> efuse: then hire a developer
[04:53] <X-warrior`> fermuch, ops, my connection droped sorry
[04:53] <holstein> efuse: you file a bug.. its not a justice issue.. this is a channel of volunteers for support of current software
[04:53] <X-warrior`> I can't see because system halt and then I reboot and if I check dmesg.0 or others it seems the messages are gone... so I took a picture of it...
[04:53] <fermuch> X-warrior`: what does dmesg says?
[04:54] <X-warrior`> by halt I mean it is stucked
[04:54] <efuse> i will file a bug rpeort
[04:54] <efuse> while I do that, I want a workaround to get the dock at the bottom
[04:54] <fermuch> X-warrior`: then the problem is with your OS-disk
[04:54] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, also I'm pretty sure you should be using the legacy drivers per this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[04:55] <holstein> efuse: there is not one.. but the code is available to you, or anyone you would like to get to help you with it.. just take it to another channel please, as its not a support topic
[04:55] <TaMpeReN> guys i installed xmind
[04:55] <efuse> this is a support topic
[04:55] <h00k> efuse: you can check the forums, as well
[04:55] <efuse> ubuntu is unuable to me
[04:55] <TaMpeReN> andi wanna  uninstall it
[04:55] <efuse> i need a fix.
[04:55] <h00k> !forums | efuse
[04:55] <efuse> i don't need the url of the fourms.
[04:55] <fermuch> X-warrior`: are you here?
[04:55] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: I'm think that's the one I'm currently using, but I can't play source games or see the ground texture in HoN
[04:56] <X-warrior`> yes I'm trying to find some image of regular ubuntu since my pendrive is with ubuntu server
[04:56] <fermuch> X-warrior`: do a backup as fast as you can, before you do anything else
[04:56] <holstein> efuse: i dont think any of the volunteers are interested in providing you a fix.. nor is anything broken.. its just a preference, that you are welcome to have, but not going to resolve here
[04:56] <efuse> it's oppression
[04:56] <X-warrior`> the system is brand new, just some config on it... nothing on os disk that I can't lost
[04:56] <efuse> it's a corporation trying to force something down my throat
[04:56] <fermuch> X-warrior`: thats a pretty weird error, and it destroyed all my disk
[04:57] <holstein> efuse: its a bar.. and please take it to the OT channel.. thanks
[04:57] <efuse> it's evil and runs opposed to common interests
[04:57] <fermuch> X-warrior`: and what about the ntfs one?
[04:57] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, 32 or 64 bit?
[04:57] <fermuch> X-warrior`: try to start the system without the ntfs disk
[04:57] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: 32-bit
[04:57] <fermuch> that will say if the problem is with the ntfs disk or the OS disk
[04:57] <alkaliv2> go ahead and start the driver DL http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[04:58] <fermuch> i gotta go
[04:58] <fermuch> see ya
[04:58] <h00k> efuse: then pick a different distro, but this isn't the place, so please stop.
[04:58] <fermuch> X-warrior`: good luck and do a god-send fsck!
[04:58] <efuse> but I want unity
[04:58] <efuse> and the unity search thing
[04:58] <efuse> i just want it at the bottom of my screen
[04:58] <efuse> is that seriously too much to ask?
[04:59] <FloodBot1> efuse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <efuse> for devs to not deliberatly try to break tweaks that make Ubuntu more usable?
[04:59] <sean__> any one know what version of ubuntu would work best with a ppc ubuntu machine or if there is a better suited channel  for my query?
[04:59] <holstein> sean__: unfortunatley, PPC is quite end-of-life.. have you tried just downloading an image?
[04:59] <h00k> efuse: we've given you options on what you can do, or check the forums, or a different launcher. that's as far as it goes.
[05:00] <efuse> i still have not been given a fix
[05:00] <OerHeks> !ppc
[05:00] <lxle> i was wondering if that was still available
[05:01] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, sorry about the delay, I can't find a single guide that doesn't make you turn the driver into a .deb
[05:01] <sean__> hokstein: I am running the newest version of lubuntu but most things run slower than the original osx 9.
[05:01] <Konata> Is ubuntu 10.04 still support
[05:01] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, did you follow this method when you did it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website
[05:02] <OerHeks> Konata yes
[05:02] <sean__> holstein: I am running the newest version of lubuntu but most things run slower than the original osx 9.
[05:02] <holstein> sean__: its too bad, but that might be as good as it gets.. did you try 10.04?
[05:02] <Konata> Thank god
[05:02] <Konata> because i hate 12.04 with undying passion
[05:02] <OerHeks> !10.04
[05:02] <Konata> > April 2013
[05:02] <holstein> Konata: if you are missing gnome2, try xubuntu.. xfce is quite similar in look/feel
[05:02] <Konata> is there any other release that doesnt have the annoying taskbar thing
[05:03] <OerHeks> !nounity
[05:03] <Konata> Oh man
[05:03] <Konata> Y'all are awesome
[05:03] <h00k> !helpersnack
[05:03] <sean__> holstein: I think I will try that next I dont realy use this machine for much but suport for old Osx versions is very very limited.
[05:03] <OerHeks> Or give KDE a try :-)
[05:04] <holstein> sean__: i run headless xless on my ppc hardware
[05:05] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: I didn't use that method. I'll purge fglrx and try it
[05:05] <lxle> i'm an lxde user myself
[05:05] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, let me know what happens
[05:08] <sean__> holstien
[05:08] <sean__> holstein: I may try that.
[05:10] <nahata> what application do i select to open "apturl" when trying to install flash on my ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[05:11] <OoTLink> ello
[05:11] <Rokkross> Hi.
[05:11] <holstein> nahata: this might still be current http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how-to-install-flash-player-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[05:11] <holstein> nahata: you wont get the latest flash
[05:11] <OoTLink> I'm thinking of building a really cheap machine that will, because of the budget, probably run ubuntu
[05:11] <nahata> holstein: oh
[05:11] <OoTLink> if I'm going to do that it means either celeron or low end amd
[05:11] <OoTLink> any low end motherboards that work best or I should avoid? XD
[05:12] <jose106> anyone know why my wifi disconnects from the router when I unplug my laptop?
[05:12] <ttoti> 0oTLink: How cheap?
[05:13] <OoTLink> $200 all inclusive XD
[05:13] <OoTLink> maaaybe $250
[05:13] <jose106> it stays connected if the power is not pulgged in
[05:13] <ttoti> Jesus, do you have any parts yet?
[05:13] <ttoti> jose: Could be a setting that disables the wifi on battery
[05:13] <OoTLink> no :)
[05:13] <nahata> apparently i have 11.2 and i need 11.3, is there a package i need to click on that will try to update my already-installed flash?
[05:13] <OoTLink> it's doable!
[05:13] <OoTLink> but it aint pretty lol
[05:14] <jose106> it might be, how do I change that
[05:14] <OoTLink> I mean the budget will have to be 250 to keep myself sane though
[05:14] <h00k> !oy
[05:14] <h00k> ah
[05:14] <h00k> !ot
[05:14] <alkaliv2> jose106, can you manually turn it back on after it is unplugged?
[05:15] <ttoti> jose106, read this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1624956.html
[05:15] <jose106> alkaliv2, there is a switch on the side but I keep it on
[05:15] <MysticalBurrito[> Hi.
[05:16] <MysticalBurrito[> I'm trying to share an internet connection between my ubuntu laptop and my other laptop running windows XP via Ethernet cable, how do I go about doing this?
[05:16] <h00k> MysticalBurrito[: you'll need a crossover cable if it's plugged directly in
[05:17] <jose106> ttoti, I{ll check it out
[05:17] <MysticalBurrito[> I will?
[05:17] <h00k> !ics | MysticalBurrito[
[05:17] <nahata> so then is the issue that i can't upgrade from 11.2 to 11.3 flash because i'm on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:17] <nahata> so i can't do my LiveMocha french app :(
[05:18] <holstein> nahata: chrome has current flash
[05:18] <nahata> oh, i think it's just they don't go above 11.2 at all for Linux
[05:18] <h00k> MysticalBurrito[: either a crossover cable, or each to a switch, yes
[05:18] <nahata> holstein: oh hmm... it's just so laggy
[05:18] <nahata> i don't like chrome but i guess i can use it for my LiveMocha
[05:19] <holstein> nahata: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and you can decide what you want to do.. we cant support flash
[05:19] <nahata> holstein: ok
[05:20] <nahata> i'm just gonna get chrome anyway if it will work
[05:24] <ikhider> Hello, I want to install a seamonkey PPA, can anyone here show me how?
[05:24] <h00k> ikhider: There should be the name of the PPA on Launchpad, did you find that?
[05:24] <Capprentice> h00k,  http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2467379
[05:25] <ikhider> h00k, I have this: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+ppa-packages
[05:25] <h00k> 23:25 <              ikhider > h00k, I have this: https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+ppa-packages
[05:25] <h00k> 23:25 ::: part/#ubuntu oddie (~free@103.1.187.141) ()
[05:25] <h00k> bah
[05:25] <h00k> apologies, my chromebook is sensitive
[05:26] <h00k> ikhider: look at that link, see reply 8 and 10 :)
[05:26] <h00k> ikhider: the link Capprentice had sent
[05:27] <ikhider> h00k, I looked it up but get errors
[05:27] <h00k> ikhider: what errors?
[05:27] <Capprentice> read the second page. There is how u can get the latest seamonkey
[05:28] <ikhider> Capprentice, Can you give me a link to the second page?
[05:28] <android> hey guys, using ubuntu 12.10 with dual monitors, and they're both on a different gamma setting. i can use xgamma to change the gamma of both, is there a way i can change the gamma of just one?
[05:28] <Konata> How can I download 10.04
[05:29] <Capprentice> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2467379&start=15
[05:30] <Capprentice> Konata,  hey why do u want to download ubuntu 10.04 ?
[05:30] <Konata> because anything with gnome3 by default would be better off in a grave
[05:30] <ikhider> Capprentice, http://pastebin.com/YFdXYdUA
[05:30] <Capprentice> then download Pear OS
[05:30] <nahata> holstein: thanks, the flash works on chrome!
[05:32] <Capprentice> ikhider,  what version of Ubuntu u r using ?
[05:32] <ikhider> Capprentice, I just installed today
[05:32] <mdh> !u
[05:32] <ikhider> Whatever was on the official website
[05:33] <xangua> ikhider: you did realize that there was no ppa repository for quantal in the lin you provided¿
[05:33] <Capprentice> oh. Then u cant get the latest Seamonkey I guess. U can check here - http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=seamonkey download the 11.04 version. It will work, but not recomended way of getting seamonkey.
[05:33] <ikhider> Capprentice, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:joe-nationnet/seamonkey-beta
[05:34] <ikhider> That was what I put in the cl
[05:35] <Capprentice> I do not use seamonkey now. Yes that is the PPA u need to add.
[05:35] <MysticalBurrito[> for some reason when I activate the hotspot mode for my Wifi it dosn't stay connected, is there a way to fix this?
[05:36] <ikhider> Capprentice, Yeah, I don't know how to add a ppa
[05:36] <ikhider> Or I borked it last time I tried
[05:37] <ikhider> But I am using the binary you linked me too
[05:37] <ikhider> Mebbe that'll do the trick
[05:38] <ikhider> I just need to grab some e-mails I had stored away
[05:39] <android> how can i set this command to execute at startup: xgamma -display :0
[05:39] <android> err buffer malfunction, i mean: xrandr --output DVI-I-3 --gamma 0.85:0.85:0.85
[05:39] <android> can I just add it to Startup Applications as the "Command"?
[05:43] <Capprentice> ikhider,  why u dont use chatzilla and simple mail addon on plain firefox ? what extra seemonkey gives u ? to add a ppa - sudo add-apt-repository ppa_name
[05:44] <Capprentice> then sudo apt-get update
[05:44] <Capprentice> write these on a terminal (colsole)
[05:44] <dr_willis> android:  yes. or just make a script that launches it and add it to your  ~/.config/autostart directory
[05:45] <android> thanks dr_willis
[05:47] <android> lol
[05:51] <diverdude> To disable the touchpad on  my lenovo w520 i write the command: synclient TouchpadOff=1 in the command line. however i have to write it an arbitrary number of times before it takes effect. sometimes 3 times sometimes 20 times. why dont it just work the first time always?
[05:51] <leandro> i have a problem with compiz emerald, it's the windows' frames, when i go to the top right edge with the mouse i cannot click on the 'X' to close the window because it is not fully maximized, i've tried using different themes and other things, does anyone know what can i do?
[05:53] <ghost_> how every
[05:54] <dr_willis> leandro:  emerald is basicaqlly a dead project.. its really time to move on
[05:54] <dr_willis> leandro:  that said. id try some other themes for emerald. you may get lucky.
[05:54] <dr_willis> or try making your own theme
[05:55] <coffee> hey
[05:55] <coffee> can some one help me
[05:55] <dr_willis> state the problem coffee
[05:56] <leandro> dr_willis: it's a behavior problem more than a theme problem
[05:56] <leandro> dr_willis: the only effect i want is the wobbly windows
[05:56] <ZeloZelos> step right up, step on down get your support in #ubuntu right now, just ask away folks ask away. no need to ask to ask
[05:56] <dr_willis> leandro:  you dont need emerald for that/.
[05:57] <dr_willis> leandro:  and thats one of the most annoying 'eyecandy' effects of compiz. ;)
[05:57] <|nv|s|b|e> its also prolly in compiz settings, from experience make sure (move windows and resize windows is enabled and also window decorations is checked
[05:57] <dr_willis> made the wife puke
[05:57] <leandro> i dont?, thank u, im new using linux, hahah i like it!, what do u recommend for me to use then?
[05:57] <manman> i got an error trying to install ubuntu
[05:58] <manman> error executing commands how do i fix this
[05:58] <|nv|s|b|e> i use emerald all the time, its just a matter of patients and settings in compiz itself
[05:58] <DM11> what error
[05:58] <leandro> dr_willis: i dont?, thank u, im new using linux, hahah i like it!, what do u recommend for me to use then?
[05:58] <dr_willis> leandro:  if you are new to linux.. then i suggest forgetting emerald ever existed
[05:58] <ghost_> i tried to install lubuntu on a old box and it wont install how can i in sall it
[05:58] <|nv|s|b|e> sheesh
[05:59] <ZeloZelos> leandro, are you having a issue with displaying windows n such?
[05:59] <michael87> so I'm back from windows 7. I want to make an aeroglass theme with ubuntu. I know most of the tricks and have something simulaur to aeroglass with ubuntu 12.04 and have learned how to get rid of most of the anoyying orangeness of ubuntu. Now one last thing. What do I have to do to change the window themes color? I tried hard to find a custom theme for ubuntu but all they do is change the buttons really. And they are all either grey or brow
[05:59] <michael87> n. I want more options with ubuntu. please help
[05:59] <dr_willis> leandro:  you can enable the wobbly windows with the normal Unity desktop and the 'ccsm' tool
[05:59] <manman> its long and i cant copy and past but it has >>retval=1 >>stderr+ >>stdout=resize2fs1.40.6
[05:59] <dr_willis> !ccsm > leandro
[05:59] <h00k> ghost_: why will it 'not install'
[06:00] <ghost_> hook i dont no
[06:00] <manman> who can help me
[06:00] <leandro> the display looks alright the thing is when i go right to the top right of the screen with my mouse
[06:00] <DM11> what error manman
[06:00] <leandro> and i click
[06:01] <leandro> windows should close
[06:01] <leandro> but, since they aren't fully maximized due to an error
[06:01] <dr_willis> manman:  use a camera and take a picture of the screen/error and paste it to some site.
[06:01] <leandro> they don't
[06:01] <manman> i cant really type it out
[06:01] <manman> but it is
[06:02] <manman> error executing command
[06:02] <DM11> need more info than that  sorry
[06:02] <h00k> !verify | manman you can verify your install media to make sure it's not corrupt
[06:02] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Okay, so I went and got some food then tried that tutorial, but the part that stumps me is the part that always has. I run the command it tells me to which opens the driver installer window. I choose to generate a distribution-specific package, it generates, tells me there was an error and then removes itself.
[06:02] <michael87>  brb
[06:03] <h00k> !details | ghost_
[06:03] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Can you pastebin me the output of the failure?
[06:03] <DM11> what command are you trying to execute
[06:04] <blazcab> hello every one, i have connect an additional monitor to mi laptop... well... when put a video in full screen  in it and i try to find an aplication in the laptop, the additional screen with a maximiced video come resized, someone used two monitors and have this issue?
[06:04] <ZeloZelos> leandro, are you using compiz for that action?
[06:04] <blazcab> I forget said that i use gnome3
[06:04] <manman> dm11
[06:05] <leandro> zelozelos: yes i am
[06:05] <manman> this is my error
[06:05] <manman> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/39355071.png/
[06:05] <leandro> zelozelos: that's the only bug i have, then everything works just fine
[06:05] <dr_willis> blazcab:  byvideo in full screen..  you mean a Flash video from a web site?
[06:06] <ZeloZelos> leandro, have you tried running a terminal and sudo compiz --replace? sometimes that helps fix things, sometimes it can make em worse, if it does just close the terminal
[06:06] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: It says "There were errors duringi nstallation. Details can be found in /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log The fglrx-install.log file shows: http://pastebin.com/x5bMWyzR
[06:06] <manman> can some one help me with my error?
[06:06] <leandro> yes, i have tried that, also i  have installed emerald and replaced the command in 'window decorations'
[06:06] <blazcab> dr_willis: in totem or video player
[06:06] <leandro> (in compiz)
[06:07] <DM11> looks like you are tryimg  to setup a partition for installation
[06:07] <leandro> do u understand what my problem is right?, maybe i haven't explained myself correctly..
[06:07] <DM11> windows is utilizing the media and blocking you
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> leandro, no i get it, at least one of the compiz options are not working right?
[06:08] <DM11> try installing putnof the windows environment
[06:08] <manman> dm11
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> have you done sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compiz-extras
[06:08] <michael87> ok back
[06:08] <michael87> so I'm back from windows 7. I want to make an aeroglass theme with ubuntu. I know most of the tricks and have something simulaur to aeroglass with ubuntu 12.04 and have learned how to get rid of most of the anoyying orangeness of ubuntu. Now one last thing. What do I have to do to change the window themes color? I tried hard to find a custom theme for ubuntu but all they do is change the buttons really. And they are all either grey or brow
[06:08] <michael87> n. I want more options with ubuntu. please help
[06:08] <FloodBot1> michael87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <DM11> like restarting and booting into ubuntu installation
[06:08] <manman> dm11 think you can help me out?
[06:08] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, try sudo apt-get install dh-modaliases then attempt the rebuild
[06:08] <leandro> yeah it's just that, i can't close windows like that, i have to 'search' or 'go slowly' to the 'X' in the windows in order to close em
[06:09] <leandro> i've tried all the window options and like 10 emerald themes, but they all have the same problem, (yet the windows appear to be fully 'maximized')
[06:09] <ZeloZelos> leandro, actually, after the update type sudo apt-get install compiz (then hit the tab key, twice if needed to see the other options
[06:10] <ZeloZelos> leandro, did you have unity on this install as well?
[06:10] <ZeloZelos> or gnome?
[06:10] <blazcab> dr_willis: do you know how to blocked the view full screen in video player
[06:10] <manman> lookin for some help any one out there
[06:10] <dr_willis> leandro:  if all you want  is the wobbly windows effect.. theres no reason to be using emerald.
[06:11] <diverdude> To disable the touchpad on  my lenovo w520 i write the command: synclient TouchpadOff=1 in the command line. however i have to write it an arbitrary number of times before it takes effect. sometimes 3 times sometimes 20 times. why dont it just work the first time always?
[06:11] <dr_willis> blazcab:  ive never seen that issue in any video players here - other then flash videos when fullscreened.
[06:11] <dr_willis> blazcab:  i tend to use VLC as my main media player
[06:11] <knoppies> Im having issues with tftpd (Im trying to PXE boot). I keep getting Error 2 access violation
[06:12] <blazcab> VLC.... fine... I didn't have this idea... i try it...
[06:12] <dr_willis> blazcab:  i use a dual monitor setup all the time with my Nvidia Cards. using the Twinview option.
[06:12] <dr_willis> Only flash gives me that annoyance.. and its fixable.
[06:13] <dr_willis> in flash at least. ;P
[06:13] <michael87> I'm using wubi to experiment with ubuntu before I finally make the leap from windows 7. But I want to know how to change the grey window theme on ubuntu or should I look else where like kde. kde was alot easier to theme its just that I like unity's bar alot
[06:13] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html
[06:14]  * mladoux dances with joy
[06:14] <mladoux> new job FTW
[06:14] <dr_willis> michael87:  theres a few extra packagtes you can install. then theres some themes i use from various ppas -  lets see if i can find a beginners guide for doing it..
[06:14] <dr_willis> michael87:  may be a guide here -> http://www.webupd8.org/search/label/eyecandy?max-results=10
[06:14] <dr_willis> or you can look at the purty themes. ;)
[06:15] <blazcab> thnks dr_willis... now i can't try it... but when i can i'll tell you...
[06:15] <dr_willis> michael87:  seems you need to install -->   sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions
[06:16] <dr_willis> michael87:  then use the gnome-tweak-tool or other tweaker tools to select the theme you want to use.
[06:16] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: The package generation didn't fail, and I'm able to move onto the next step! I'll let you know if all the rest works
[06:16] <X-warrior`> I'm in a live cd, dropped with ctrl+f1 to a shell, runned fdisk -l, and then fsck /dev/sdb it say device busy, so I tried umount /dev/sdb it says that is not mounted... but fsck say it is busy... ideas?
[06:16] <dr_willis>  set the new theme via GNOME Tweak Tool > Theme > Shell theme
[06:16] <leptone> to run something its "./PATH/"  right?
[06:16] <dr_willis> leptone:  ./ would be starting where you are at.. its a relative path
[06:17] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Awesome! Hopefully this is a step towards fixing this for good
[06:17] <dr_willis>  /foo/bar/ is a full absolute path..    ./foo/bar/ is a relative path
[06:17] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Hm, I am unable to execute sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:17] <leptone> dr_willis, sry? dont follow. want to run bin/64/bitcoin-qt
[06:18] <X-warrior`> is fsck as /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1, it seems to goes thru using /dev/sdb1
[06:19] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, check post numbers 22 and 23 and see if that fixes it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22855.20
[06:19] <knoppies> Im trying to install xubuntu using PXE, I keep getting tftp Access Violation.
[06:20] <michael87> dr_willis, I appreciate linking me but again these are all grey windowwed. I want to color the windows themselves. and then use metacity opacity to make it transparent and compiz to make the glass effect
[06:20] <sam113101> I NEED HELP
[06:20] <knoppies> sam113101, what do you need?
[06:21] <dr_willis> michael87:  with themes in ubuntu/gnome/unity you can mix and match differnt parts from differnt themes.. to get stuff looking about how you want. You dont have custome controll over a lot of the little things
[06:21] <sam113101> I'm trying to launch xmodmap when my session starts, but it doesn't work
[06:21] <sam113101> I have to do it manually
[06:21] <dr_willis> leptone:  so cd to the directory wher eits at and ise  ./bitcoin-qt
[06:21] <michael87> dr_willis, I was able to do this when I let kde manage unity. But it kinda went out of wack after that lol
[06:21] <dr_willis> michael87:  KDE is radically differnt then gnome/unity
[06:22] <dr_willis> I dont see how you let kde manage 'unity'
[06:22] <sam113101> why is it so hard
[06:22] <michael87> dr_willis, I installed unity while in linux mint and then kde. I believe the same could be done in ubuntu if you activate kubuntu in the backports or something
[06:23] <sam113101> does it get overridden or does it ever launch?
[06:23] <dr_willis> michael87:  sounds like a frankenstein design to me.
[06:23] <dr_willis> sam113101:  you can auto start stuff at login from the .config/autostart directory
[06:23] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: sudo dpkg -i *.deb executes, but sudo apt-get -f install doesn't upgrade, install, remove, or not upgrade anything, and sudo aticonfig --inital still doesn't work
[06:23] <SilvereX> it says command not found
[06:24] <michael87> dr_willis, lol thats what I thought I had with linux. The power to make my pc what I want it to be but with stability as well. I love eyecandy
[06:24] <michael87> dr_willis, guilty obsession as a digital artist as well
[06:24] <dr_willis> comes to a point where you stop organizeing the pencils on your desk.. and  do some real work.
[06:25] <sam113101> dr_willis: that's what I'm using
[06:25] <sam113101> btw, is it better to use ~ or $HOME with those kinds of things?
[06:25] <knoppies> Im with dr_willis on that one. It all started with the eyecandy though. I love compiz though, even without the eycandy.
[06:25] <dr_willis> sam113101:  what are you having it do exactly?
[06:25] <sam113101> xmodmap ~/.xmodmap
[06:25] <dr_willis> sam113101:  i find it best to use the FULL path
[06:25] <knoppies> sam113101, often $HOME, but only if you know $HOME exists at the time.
[06:26] <dr_willis> xmodemap /home/yourusername/.whatever
[06:26] <sam113101> I tried it too
[06:26] <sam113101> doesn't work
[06:26] <dr_willis> and what is your xmodemap command supposed to be doing?
[06:26] <DM11> ever consider cinnamon desktop environment
[06:26] <sam113101> swap keys? lol
[06:26] <dr_willis> DM11:  not really supported here. ;) so nope.. never considered it..
[06:26] <dr_willis> swap what keys?
[06:27] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, output for aticonfig --initial doesn't say anything like /usr/lib/fglrx/bin/aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[06:27] <sam113101> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601125/
[06:28] <dr_willis> Hmm this guide mentions /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:28] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Just says "sudo: aticonfig: command not found"
[06:28] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/54157/how-do-i-set-xmodmap-on-login
[06:28] <michael87> dr_willis, in either case I find unity far more stable then kde and user friendly as far as the unity bar is concerned. Personalization is a pain in the butt on here. And I've spent months researching tryying to theme it up and make it more pleasing to the eye with very little success. making me more and more angry with ubuntu but bumbed out becuase I want to support open source. tryying really hard to like ubuntu becuase I admire the unit
[06:28] <michael87> y toolbar. But I want the windows to look just as nice as the bar itself and hopefully someday as translucent.
[06:30] <michael87> dr_willis, but until then I am tryying to find ones that are simular to 7 for windows borders at least for decorations. But all the good ones are outdated and don't support the new gnome shell. and all the ones that do essentually look the same to me
[06:30] <dr_willis> michael87:  i tend to use the defaults.. since my main hobby is helping on irc.. so i need to know what most people are using. I  find i spend a great deal of time helping FIX/Undo their customizations.
[06:31] <dr_willis> Im glad i havent seen anyone ask about that dangerous macbuntu-script in the last month. ;)
[06:31] <sam113101> is the xinitrc file used, though? I thought it was only used when you didn't have a DM
[06:32] <dr_willis> sam113101:  im not sure any more these days. I thought it got replaced by .Xsession
[06:32] <dr_willis> sam113101:  you could  try altering that /etc/bash.bashrc  file.  but that seems a little odd.
[06:32] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Give this one a shot.  It might not have placed your aticonfig file properly.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1494597 post #3
[06:33] <dr_willis> sam113101:  its also possible you need to make a script for running the xmodemap command that waits about 10 sec. for the desktop to get fully loaded/ready.. seen that happen at times with other startup items.
[06:34] <michael87> dr_willis, well again that is a bummer. I saw linux as a world where I can have an os that would be even more intuitive and fun then 7. ubuntu holds so much promise to be this. I love the music system and unity bar. I'm sounding like a broken record. But the solid grey colors reminding me too much of old xp and want to change them band. Even mate sounds more tempting then this lol
[06:34] <dr_willis> sam113101:  or you culd make a statup script that runs somthing like 'xterm -e xmodemap /path/to/xmodmapconfig'   and see if it actually runs
[06:34] <sam113101> yeah, I'm just going to do sleep 5 && xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmap if that's what it needs
[06:35] <dr_willis> michael87:  i dont even know what solid grey colors you mean.. i twiddle around with so many themes - i got all sorts of colors.
[06:35] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/mediterraneannight-gtk36-theme-pack.html
[06:35] <dr_willis> has 12 color variations
[06:35] <leandro> Zelozelos??
[06:36] <leandro> Zelozelos??
[06:36] <michael87> dr_willis, you just made me want to slap myself in the face. lol thank you
[06:38] <michael87> dr_willis, so maybe you can answer this one for me. is the power consumption on ubuntu more or less the windows 7 set at powersaving mode. I am considering wich is better for power management
[06:39] <dr_willis> michael87:  the hardware makers put more work into the win7 stuff.. so id bet on win7
[06:39] <Cida> What about Win7?
[06:39] <dr_willis> michael87:  but ubuntu can use actual LESS resources..  and thus gain benifits.
[06:40] <michael87> dr_willis, hm I see. you mean of course for say lxde desktop? yes?
[06:40] <dr_willis> However.. lets face it.. the biggest batery drain on a laptop is normally the lcd/lights/hd spinning.. so if win7 can do all sorts of tweaks and cheats that are not documented for ubuntu devs to even know about win7 will be thebst for battery life
[06:40] <dr_willis> lxde is about as ight as you can get for a full featured desktop
[06:41] <dr_willis> I rarely even mess with laptops these days. so i dont pay much attention to their battery lifes
[06:41] <dr_willis> even when i did use laptops.. a battery was never used for more then perhaps an hr or so till i plugged in again
[06:42] <Cida> I have a question, and I know it'll probably make me look rather stupid for not knowing, but what does the ' command do in the terminal?
[06:42] <Cida> I tried doing something with it. And like
[06:42] <Cida> Nothing happened cx
[06:42] <|nv|s|b|e> flash is also hard on laptops
[06:42] <|nv|s|b|e> real hard
[06:42] <redtape-renegade> ANYBODY: Anybody want to jump on skype and talk about Ubuntu ?
[06:43] <dr_willis> Cida:  you mwan the single quote '   ? thats not a command
[06:43] <poovizhirajan> hi
[06:43] <redtape-renegade> hi
[06:43] <poovizhirajan> 'hi
[06:43] <theyboosting> harro
[06:43] <dr_willis> Cida:  the  BACKTICK     `   does somting special. ;)
[06:43] <redtape-renegade> you on skype ?
[06:44] <redtape-renegade> anybody here on skype ?
[06:44] <michael87> dr_willis, I see. Reason I ask becuase my desktop is going to be my gaming and emulation machine. Wich unfortunately means its stayying windows. I like 7 alot and am angry how flat and basicly dead looking 8 is. again I like some eyecandy with my computer. and I figured since I mostly use my laptop for painting maybe it would be a good excuse to dive into the linux world more. but its tough tryying to find a decent alternative to windows.
[06:44] <michael87> Even considered zoran. Kde is a good one. but not perfect. again most of my favorite fuctions are with ubuntu. so I'm putting alot of my effort to pretty it up
[06:45] <dr_willis> michael87:  the desktop dosent really mater.. its about the apps used..
[06:46] <dr_willis> You are worrying about the color of your hubcaps.. instead of the  job the truck is supposed to be doing.
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> also depending on the specs, the extra free cup cycles and ram may be more important than flashier effects
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> *cpu
[06:48] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html   seems to be one of the top 'themes' out there.. but it sort of goes past the normal theme limits. :) has its own tweaker tools
[06:48] <dr_willis> Options to customize Background color, Text color, Border color, Background opacity, Border opacity etc. for Panel, Menu and Dialogs
[06:48] <michael87> dr_willis, the job is easy enough. but making open source look and run nicer then then corperates os is a tough one. just in case microsoft gives their more power using customers the finger in lue to market a dumbed down os to a bunch of brain dead idiots
[06:49] <michael87> dr_willis, again much appriciated
[06:49] <dr_willis> only themes i seem to use are from webupdates sites/guides
[06:49] <dr_willis> i got so many ive played with my theme lists are a total disaster
[06:50] <dr_willis> I mixx and match parts from differnt themes.. to get what i want.. then cant recreate it on a 2nd pc. ;P
[06:50] <r0ugenode> hello there
[06:50] <sam113101> ok, I REALLY can't get it to launch when the session starts, where's the best place to complain about it?
[06:50] <michael87> dr_willis, also I'm tryying to show linux off to uninitited. I gave linux to a few different people who are friends and family and got mostly positive feedback from them.
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> michael87: simple isn't always dumbed down. besides easier to learn = more users. if anything this is better overall. i like command line, but really if it required no reading of man pages and wikis to do what i need and want i'd prefer that
[06:51] <knoppies> aeon-ltd, I love man, because my momry sucks.
[06:51] <knoppies> memory
[06:51] <dr_willis> sam113101:  if you want to file a bug report. theres the !bug factoid.. complaining gets you about much gain as sticking your... err... i better stop there...
[06:52] <r0ugenode> heh
[06:52] <sinfuzi0n> Anyone listen to the Pauldotcom podcast?
[06:52] <dr_willis> sam113101:  make a script that does the command, make a startup item that runs the script in a xterm so you can see when its launching.
[06:52] <aeon-ltd> sinfuzi0n: relevance to ubuntu?
[06:52] <sam113101> ok
[06:53] <sinfuzi0n> He runs a pen testing company, and he was just talking about "labs" in his recent podcast
[06:53] <sinfuzi0n> Labs to do pen testing running Ubuntu
[06:53] <sinfuzi0n> Virtualization, etc, etc
[06:54] <michael87> aeon-ltd, this is true. but again I am not happy with the choise's microsoft is making with 8. and if they start messing up 7 via updates linux is my next option. I am happy we live in a world of choices with our software. especially if some could not afford a microsoft code with their machines.
[06:55] <garyperrigo> clear
[06:56] <MrMist1> Hi all
[06:56]  * dr_willis waits for the massive gnashing of teeth and wailing of cries when Ubuntu goes the mir/qml route....
[06:57] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: That bug does sound similar to mine. I was previously using an nvidia card
[06:57] <sam113101> how do I open my script in xterm?
[06:57] <dr_willis> sam113101:  xterm -e scriptname
[06:58] <dr_willis> put a 'read foo' at the end of the script or the term may open/close to fast to read anything
[06:59] <sam113101> xterm -e ~/xmodmap_launch.sh
[06:59] <sam113101> doesn't work
[06:59] <sam113101> ok
[06:59] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Yea I completely stopped using ATI on linux after my X800.  Fglrx just became a complete pain to install
[06:59] <sam113101> xterm -e "bash ~/xmodmap_launch.sh"
[07:00] <michael87> dr_willis. ok dark Mediterranean theme is nice. I'm sticking with that for now. But I would like to find basic colors. Blue,red,green. depending on what mood I might be in that day.
[07:00] <dr_willis> make your script actually executable... :)
[07:01] <sam113101> ok
[07:01] <dr_willis> michael87:  i recall one that changed colors on time of day
[07:01] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Gonna restart my system and continue with the instructions
[07:01] <dr_willis> but im clening out all these themes ive installed over the last few months.. got to much theme clutter
[07:01] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, keep me posted, I'll be up a bit longer
[07:03] <crooked> speaking of themes, I have a bit of a problem where a certain theme ("Ambiance Blue") makes certain text backgrounds appear white
[07:03] <crooked> yet it works fine on my other computer
[07:03] <MrMist1> OK
[07:04] <MrMist1> So I've got this tiny problem... I need a newer version of a dev package (source code) then the on in Ubuntu repos..
[07:05] <MrMist1> Is there any way to search for alternate, newer versions using apt? Or should I just download the sourcecode?
[07:05] <xangua> michael87:  i am currently using this kind of 'remake' http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Nouveau?content=153084
[07:05] <dr_willis> MrMist1:  the normal route is repos -> then look for a ppa -> then look for source
[07:06] <sam113101> it works
[07:06] <sam113101> and it also breaks redshift's startup
[07:07] <sam113101> for some unknown reason
[07:07] <dr_willis> no idea what redshift is..
[07:07] <MrMist1> dr_willis: Ehm.. how? I'm just using aptitude search now. You mean like editing /etc/aptp/sources.list?
[07:07] <dr_willis> MrMist1:  theres ppa search sites.
[07:07] <dr_willis> !ppa
[07:07] <sam113101> dr_willis: it gives a red color to your screen during the night so it's easier on the eye
[07:08] <sam113101> the default is wayyyyyyyyy too red, but once configured correctly it's great
[07:08] <sam113101> it does more or less the same thing as f.lux
[07:08] <SilvereX> sam113101: I was just about to mention f.lux
[07:08] <dr_willis> never heard of either. ;)
[07:08] <MrMist1> dr_willis: Yeah... I know of PPA's. However, I was wondering if there are any official ppas for this? Aren't there different versions of the official ones as well?
[07:09] <sam113101> f.lux never worked for me, on linux
[07:09] <sam113101> I use it on windows though
[07:09] <sam113101> but why does it happen
[07:09] <dr_willis> MrMist1:  im not sure the term official ppa - ever really applies. :) some  project may have their own 'official' ppa.. but its not going to be caonicals offical ppa. since its not ray by canoicaal.
[07:10] <SilvereX> It works for me, but it's a bit iffy.
[07:10] <dr_willis> sam113101:  give us details as to whats its doing.
[07:10] <dr_willis> start it from the same script you are doing your xmodemap command. ;)
[07:10] <sam113101> I mean the script is working
[07:11] <sam113101> is it the fact that I don't call xmodmap directly or the fact that it's running inside xterm?
[07:11] <dr_willis> and look for error messages when it starts
[07:12] <MrMist1> dr_willis: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdf5/1.8.9-1~exp3
[07:13] <dr_willis> !info hdf5
[07:13] <dr_willis> !info raring hdf5
[07:13] <jacob__> Hi i am having problems with skype and i have installed it and updated it, and whats happening is that when i am video chat it drops the call and i have great connection so how can i fix it
[07:14] <dr_willis> !info hdf5 raring
[07:14] <swati> #swig
[07:15] <MrMist1> hehe... the word "raring" is an actual normal word in norwegian
[07:17] <swati> #swig-gsoc
[07:17] <MrMist1> dr_willis: "raring" would be translated to "the strange one"
[07:18] <jacob__> Hi i am having problems with skype and i have installed it and updated it, and whats happening is that when i am video chat it drops the call and i have great connection so how do i fix it?
[07:22] <MrMist1> dr_willis: So how would I go about installing this one on 12.04? I don't need it system-wide... just for compiling my own stuff
[07:22] <MrMist1> (and running it of course..)
[07:23] <sam113101> fuck this sh*t
[07:23] <sam113101> I'll complain all over the web
[07:23] <sam113101> they'll hear me
[07:24] <crooked> "fuck this sh*t" - lol
[07:24] <crooked> as if shit is the badderer word
[07:24] <sam113101> l*l
[07:24] <sam113101> haha didn't see it this way
[07:24] <sam113101> oops
[07:24] <bazhang> !language | sam113101 crooked
[07:29] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: It worked!
[07:29] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Yea? And the games are performing correctly?
[07:30] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Not sure. I'll go check
[07:36] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: CS:S runs! Not sure about the texture glitch in HoN but I'll check that some other time
[07:37] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Thanks for the help! This problem has been troubling me for a couple of months now
[07:37] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, It was not a problem, I'm glad you got it sorted out.  Hopefully you don't have to do this again when 13.2 drops :D
[07:39] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: I think completely purging my system of anything containing "nvidia" did the trick
[07:39] <noobie888> Hi, ps aux| grep username only grep username that's under 8 characters, anything below will be shown as uid instead. is there anyway to grep the long username?
[07:40] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Logically, I don't even know why that would be a factor.  I'm no programmer
[07:41] <SilvereX> alkaliv2: Anyway, I've got to go play some CS:S. It's been years since I last played!
[07:42] <alkaliv2> SilvereX, Lol not a problem, I'm calling it a night.  Have fun, later bro
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> just a small bit of help; I wanna convert a few directories of .mid to .ogg; I had achieved this at one time with dir2ogg, but its not cooperating atm, anyone feel like giving me a hand?
[07:45] <noobie888> Hi, ps aux| grep username only grep username that's under 8 characters, anything below will be shown as uid instead. is there anyway to grep the long username?
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> noobie888: ps aux | grep username | while read $usr; do ls /home/$usr*; done
[07:46] <SwedeMike> noobie888: ps auxwwww might help
[07:48] <pvh_sa> hi there, since i've upgraded to 12.10 my wireless frequently loses connection with the wireless AP. this is an intermittent problem, i'm wondering how to report it? ubuntu-bug wants a report with regards to a particular package, but this isn't a "package" bug
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> pvh_sa: drop back one kernel then see if it still happens
[07:51] <Guest25072> is there a way to make mplayer spawn in the same terminal window where it is launched?
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest25072: as in the window playing the stream inside the terminal itself?
[07:52] <Guest25072> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[07:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> dont thinks so, but you never know.
[07:54] <Guest25072> okay, too bad. i run a tiling wm and its quite annoying with extra terminals. guess i'll have  to move it to another workspace instead
[07:54] <pvh_sa> aeon-ltd, so i'm on 3.5.0-25 - do you suggest trying 3.5.0-23 or going back to 3.2.0-35 (i've got both - and also older 3.2.0 kernels - on this machine)?
[07:55] <aeon-ltd> pvh_sa: try both, but none older than a few updates
[07:55] <salz212_> hi, I want to find the files which are marked as deleted in system.. whats the command...?
[07:55] <salz212_> dume2fs is not helping i think.
[07:55] <diverdude> how do i transfer files to server via nautilus on ssh when i dont have a password, only a .pem file?
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest25072: you may want to consider making a zenity script... you may be able to do it like that, if you are looking for a low-resource music player
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> salz212_: you can always grep the partition, if its just simple files with text
[07:58] <Guest25072> ntzrmtthihu777: okay, ill check that out. Thanks!
[07:59] <ferronica> Any one help me regarding WLAN Card Setup NetGear WG311v3
[08:01] <bazhang> ferronica, whats the chipset
[08:01] <bazhang> pastebin the output of lsusb ferronica
[08:02] <bazhang> !paste | ferronica
[08:03] <ferronica> bazhang, WG511v3 Netgear, chipset is Libertas manufactured by Marvell
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> what is the default gnome screencapture program
[08:03] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, not sure, kazam is worth looking at though
[08:03] <bazhang> ferronica, pastebin the output from lsusb please
[08:04] <ferronica> bazhang, its PCI card not usb
[08:04] <bazhang> ferronica, then the output of lspci
[08:04] <salz212_> still couldn't help.. what I want to know is.... find the files that are marked as deleted in system...
[08:04] <ferronica> baz
[08:05] <ferronica> bazhang, Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> erp, I mean the screenshot program
[08:05] <bazhang> !info scrot
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: I know of scrot, its nice, but I need to know the default.
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> nvm, found it
[08:08] <ferronica> bazhang, right now im using WIFI tethring via USB
[08:08] <djbpython> everything is full screen and i cant see my top menu bar. Dont know what i pressed. any ideas?
[08:08] <helmut_> hi
[08:08] <djbpython> i had to alt+tab to open the side nav...
[08:08] <dr_willis> djbpython:  F11 perhaps
[08:08] <djbpython> dr_willis, aha! thank you!
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> djbpython: he's good at that.
[08:09] <dr_willis> its the same Fkey used by most every browser in windows and linux. i belive. ;)
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> few other programs too
[08:10] <theadmin> Yeah but the fullscreen feature is kind of worthless in Unity, you maximize, you get fullscreen.
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: any experience with the dir2ogg package?
[08:10] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  never heard of it
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: what isnt worthless in unity?
[08:11] <dr_willis> fullscreening is differnt then maxamzieing the windows here
[08:11] <pvh_sa> aeon-ltd, thanks I'm trying that now, I'll see what happens
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: cli tool to do exactly what it says, convert a dir of music 2 ogg. I used it once before, and I can't recall how.
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> pvh_sa: ok
[08:11] <ferronica> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/QwKj8cUK
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> !dir2ogg
[08:12] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777:        dir2ogg  [  options  ]  ( filename [filename2] ... || directory [directory2] ... || [cdrom-device] ... )
[08:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I get all that, read the manpage too, but I seem to be stuck-out.
[08:13] <gth> hi everyone
[08:13] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: What's the problem exactly?
[08:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: seems I cannot invoke the right options. I am in the dir, and I have tried just about everything. no change at all, no work done.
[08:14] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, if you want it to operate on the current directory, you could probably use "dir2ogg ." or "dir2ogg $PWD"
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> nope, just tried both of those, both do nothing and print dir2ogg 0.11.8 (2009-08-04), converts audio files into ogg vorbis.
[08:18] <dr_willis> try the --help option? ;)
[08:18] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Works for me: dir2ogg . in a directory full with MP3s starts creating oggs.
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: dahell, it does work on mp3 but not these .mid
[08:18] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: .mid files aren't exactly music data in the common sense
[08:18] <dr_willis> yea..  You may need a midi playuer for that
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I was recommended it somewhere for .mid, yeah I get it, .mid is more like sheet music
[08:18] <redtape-renegade> ANYBODY: Anybody want to jump on skype and talk about Ubuntu ?
[08:18] <dr_willis> redtape-renegade:  not really.
[08:18] <bazhang> !ot | redtape-renegade
[08:18] <sam113101> rofl
[08:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> so, since that seems to be a big ole heap o' fail, can someone recommend a good way to batch convert .mid to .ogg, or barring that, .mid to something I can convert to .ogg?
[08:19] <dr_willis> http://download.cnet.com/MIDI-To-WAV-Converter/3000-2170_4-10833627.html
[08:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:20] <dr_willis> http://www.ehow.com/how_6103697_convert-midi-wav-freeware.html
[08:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, isnt cdnet more or less windows only?
[08:20] <dr_willis> you dident really specify
[08:20] <dr_willis> all im doing is googling for 'midi to wav'
[08:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> well I am in #ubuntu after all ;)
[08:21] <suna> i need some help
[08:21] <dr_willis> and you are doing the very weird task of converting a midi to wav. ;)
[08:21] <SeaX> hello
[08:21] <bazhang> suna, with what
[08:21] <suna> hello
[08:21] <dr_willis> thats like converting a .txt file to pdf ;)
[08:21] <suna> ok i want to create a virtal drive
[08:21] <suna> so i can run my windows 7
[08:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: is there a way to list the reccommeded packages for a package?
[08:21] <bazhang> suna, try vbox
[08:21] <theadmin> suna: Install VirtualBox and it's easy from there on.
[08:22] <ronalds> can I gide some applet from indicator plugin
[08:22] <ronalds> ?
[08:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: what they said.
[08:22] <theadmin> suna: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/virtualbox
[08:22] <suna> ok how do i install it
[08:22] <suna> i read all about it
[08:22] <suna> and ive tryed installing it
[08:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[08:22] <suna> thanks
[08:22] <bazhang> !info virtualbox
[08:22] <dr_willis> im not clear on the actual question. ;)
[08:22] <ronalds> can't get rid of kde accesible icon, since second desktop is installed kde and awesome, and xfce
[08:23] <SeaX> what tools you guys use to recover data from a crashed drive ?
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: well you know how when you use apt-get to install a package it, at times, lists recommended packages?
[08:23] <ferronica> bazhang, there??
[08:24] <bazhang> !undelete | SeaX
[08:24] <suna> ok i did that
[08:24] <theadmin> SeaX: First take an image with ddrescue and try to mount it normally, if that fails you could run Photorec on the image. But don't mess with the drive directly, it's going to make matters worse.
[08:24] <suna> but i got this error
[08:24] <suna> Processing triggers for man-db ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ... Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ... Setting up libgsoap1 (2.8.4-2) ... Setting up python-central (0.6.17ubuntu2) ... Setting up virtualb
[08:24] <FloodBot1> suna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:24] <bazhang> SeaX, testdisk, photorec
[08:24] <suna> wait hold on
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I want to list the packages recommended for timidity, which is already installed, without having to uninstall/reinstall
[08:25] <suna> ok this is one part
[08:25] <knoppies> the ubuntu desktop livecd, is it supposed to have a symlink ubuntu which refers to itself? lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root     1 Feb 14 13:03 ubuntu -> .
[08:25] <suna>  No suitable module for running kernel found                                                                          [fail]
[08:25] <dr_willis> i rarely use the more advanced features of apt. so not sure ntzrmtthihu777
[08:25] <suna> does that mean anything?
[08:25] <theadmin> suna: Install virtualbox-dkms as well
[08:26] <suna> k also by  sudo apt-get install
[08:26] <theadmin> suna: That's how you install anything in Ubuntu :P
[08:26] <suna> k
[08:26] <pvh_sa> suna: if the install worked, you can go 'sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' to have it build the kernel module
[08:26] <theadmin> suna: There's also the Software Center which makes the job easier...
[08:27] <suna> almost everything i donload from there is out of date
[08:27] <theadmin> pvh_sa: One does not do that in Ubuntu, it will stop working after the next kernel update, instead one uses the virtualbox-dkms package which makes sure to keep the module up-to-date as well.
[08:27] <suna> the reason i would like to do a virtal drive for windows 7
[08:27] <suna> is i was trying too get skyrim to work
[08:27] <pvh_sa> theadmin, gosh, i didn't know that. thanks, i've been doing the 'vboxdrv setup' thing for years
[08:27] <suna> i use my pc for gaming alot
[08:27] <theadmin> suna: You can't really play in Virtualbox.
[08:27] <theadmin> suna: You should dual-boot
[08:27] <suna> well i dont have a flash drive
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: ah nice. for your pleasure its apt-cache show package
[08:28] <suna> or a cd that i can download my file from
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: or use playonlinux
[08:28] <suna> i did that
[08:28] <suna> and had skyrim running
[08:28] <suna> but
[08:28] <suna> it said my rendering was wrong
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: did you use one of their scripts, or did you manually install?
[08:28] <theadmin> pvh_sa: Also init.d == sysvinit, not used in Ubuntu either.
[08:28] <suna> i am not sure
[08:29] <pvh_sa> theadmin, uhm, loads of stuff is still sysvinit only
[08:29] <suna> but like i never had a render problem with skyrim
[08:29] <theadmin> pvh_sa: Well, true that, there is compatibility thankfully
[08:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: try installing with one of their pre-made scripts, they usually have the "sweet spot" for the app all figured out.
[08:29] <suna> when i played it on windows
[08:29] <gth> isn't VMWare better than vbox for playing?
[08:29] <dr_willis> actually sysv stuff is handled by upstart. :) so..
[08:29] <theadmin> gth: No virtualization solution is good for gaming.
[08:29] <suna> well what should i do then
[08:30] <suna> i mean i like linux
[08:30] <suna> but for some reason my game wont work with it
[08:30] <suna> i had it installed
[08:30] <suna> and steam
[08:30] <suna> and everything
[08:30] <suna> was working fine
[08:30] <FloodBot1> suna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <suna> ok sorry abou tthat flood
[08:30] <gth> aaah linux and games, sounds like a common lament :]
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: skyrim free on any level, so I can test it?
[08:30] <knoppies> gth, thats changing thanks to Valve.
[08:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> gth: I have been rather successfull in that area
[08:31] <usr13> suna: You are using Enter key for punctuation.  Try periods and commas
[08:31] <theadmin> There's plenty of awesome Linux games, people just don't know of them
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> true.
[08:31] <suna> yes  you can get skyrim free but i dont condone it unless you have paid for it first.
[08:31] <theadmin> Eh well all I need is Minecraft
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> the other day I actually browsed the entire games section of software center, lotta nifty stuff.
[08:32] <dr_willis> Minecraftbuntu
[08:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: I meant legally, I got out of the pirate game a while back.
[08:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, unless you count emulating very old games
[08:33] <gth> actually i'm new to ubuntu, and steam was one of the incentives
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> gth: one year user
[08:35] <theadmin> Eh, I'm with Ubuntu since 8.10 more or less (also been jumping to other distros now and then), but I don't miss "gaming" at all. Anyway, we've gotten somewhat off topic, let's keep it to support, please.
[08:36] <suna> ok i just wrote this out
[08:36] <suna> so like i installed playonlinux, and everything was working fine i installed steam worked fine then skyrim and te launcher worked. after i tryed to play it it said my graphics card could not support rendering3d or something like that. i got tired of messing with it and uninstalled linux. and thought a freind might have a windows copy but i desided id give it another shot so i reinstalled linux.
[08:37] <ronalds> suna, if games are your relative pririoty sometimes, maybe dual boot
[08:37] <ronalds> but steam has cs, tf2 and other you might want to try
[08:37] <dakotawulfy> when u write the boot loader to sda or sda1   kind was trying to install it to usb thumb drive and wanted it on usbthumb drive to boot.
[08:38] <suna> see the problem im having is i never had a render problem when i was using windows but like my grapic drivers for linux are fewer then windows
[08:38] <theadmin> dakotawulfy: That'd be more of sdb or something. "sda" is the first hard drive in the system, meaning the internal one.
[08:38] <salz212_> Hi I have been googling to find an appropriate command to extract linux OS image metadata.. any help from the community?
[08:38] <dakotawulfy> well was sdb or the sdb1
[08:38] <dakotawulfy> yea
[08:38] <theadmin> dakotawulfy: sdb, sdb1 is the first partition, only ever useful for chainloading.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> salz212_: What type of "os image" and what metadata do you want?
[08:39] <dakotawulfy> ok was trying to use usb thumb drive was able to do it if i unhooked the  hard drive
[08:39] <salz212_> okay I want to read a linux OS image and extract it's metadata  for ext4
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> report: I can say that dir2ogg works wonders on .mp3, far smaller and no discernable difference in quality to my ear.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> salz212_: wut.
[08:40] <dakotawulfy>  wanted to know if it was possible to do it with out remvoing it with regular install
[08:40] <Jordan_U> salz212_: You haven't answered either of my questions.
[08:40] <theadmin> dakotawulfy: Sure should be, just select the USB stick in the hard drive selection screen
[08:40] <salz212_> OS is ubuntu...
[08:41] <dakotawulfy> ok sorry
[08:41] <suna> so like anyone got suggestions
[08:41] <dakotawulfy>  it is an ubuntu install
[08:41] <suna> i would like to do a dual boot
[08:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> salz212_: we get that, but what the heck are you trying to do, make sense
[08:41] <salz212_> okay I just need to know the files which are marked as deleted ... I somehow searched it should bein OS image metadata
[08:41] <suna> but like i said i cannot
[08:41] <dakotawulfy> my distro i am working on
[08:41] <bazhang> suna, the installer can handle that
[08:41] <suna> well can you help me fix it?
[08:42] <bazhang> salz212_, what is the exact end goal here. please be very clear
[08:42] <salz212_> Read a linux OS image and extract it's metadata (ext4 file system) -- and it says it should have 1) list of type of distinct files 2) files marked as deleted 3) MAC times
[08:42] <bazhang> suna, was this installed already? and via wubi?
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: he deleted something he regrets, I think.
[08:42] <dakotawulfy>  theadmin so pick sdb1 for boot loader???
[08:42] <theadmin> dakotawulfy: sdb, not sdb 1
[08:43] <suna> well steam was and so was skyrim i installed them using playonlinux
[08:43] <dakotawulfy> ok that did not work  when i tryed it
[08:43] <bazhang> salz212_, yes, why Exactly do you want to do that. Please be very clear
[08:43] <salz212_> I need to find the info.. thats it...not going to do any thing.. just need to display/print it..
[08:44] <bazhang> salz212_, what info
[08:44] <suna> no ntzmtthihu77 i would like to get it installed on here
[08:44] <salz212_> 1) list of type of distinct files 2) files marked as deleted 3) MAC times
[08:44] <suna> were steam is connected to it becouse some mods reguire it
[08:45] <suna> but see i was just going too do a virtal drive so that it was easyer all around becouse i couldnt get the render thing to fix
[08:46] <salz212_> does it make sense to you or need more info?
[08:46] <auronandace> suna: if you are planning on gaming inside vbox you might be disappointed
[08:46] <suna> well i cant dual boot
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: what he said. only games that worked well in a vbox for me were old emulated roms.
[08:46] <auronandace> suna: i don't see why not
[08:46] <bazhang> salz212_, why do you want that info, and what is 3) MAC times
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: why cant you?
[08:46] <suna> becouse i dont have a cd or usb stick and dont have the money to get it
[08:47] <suna> unless i can find a way to mount a .iso image and install it with that
[08:47] <suna> some how
[08:47] <salz212_> MAC times are pieces of file system metadata which record when certain events pertaining to a computer file occurred most recently.
[08:47] <bazhang> borrow a cd or usb stick then suna
[08:47] <suna> i also cant do that
[08:48] <suna> or i would
[08:48] <suna> i live by myself
[08:48] <suna> and i dont like to get out
[08:48] <suna> alot unless i need food or cleaning supplys and what not
[08:48] <bazhang> suna, sure you can. at any rate dualbooting is the answer to gaming at this point
[08:48] <auronandace> suna: ebay to the rescue, really cd-r's and usb sticks are dirt cheap
[08:48] <suna> i get paid once a month
[08:48] <suna> and that money is gone
[08:49] <suna> i had to pay rent
[08:49] <suna> then buy a new hard drive
[08:49] <suna> for this computer im trying to fix
[08:49] <dr_willis> got some 32gb usb for under $18 today
[08:49] <suna> and other things i dont even have 1dollar left on it
[08:49] <suna> i live on ssi
[08:49] <dr_willis> suna:  you can setup grub2 to boot an iso file. or use vbox and try to install to a real physcal drive
[08:50] <suna> i have the doanload i need
[08:50] <suna> to install windows 7
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: the vbox thing wont work, and I think suna is talking about a windows iso
[08:50] <dr_willis> to install windows? time to ask in #windows
[08:50] <suna> yes i was talking abou that
[08:50] <bazhang> suna, this is ab out windows?
[08:50] <kojul> there's a #windows?
[08:50] <suna> no
[08:51]  * dr_willis thinks its time to restate the question
[08:51] <auronandace> suna: let me get this straight: you are installing win7 in vbox inside a wubi install?
[08:51] <bazhang> kojul, its ##windows
[08:51] <suna> sorry im not good at explaining sutff
[08:51] <suna> time to restart the question ok,
[08:51] <bazhang> suna do it all on ONE line this time
[08:52] <kojul> can grub mount an iso on boot?
[08:52] <dr_willis> grub2 2 can boot an iso file
[08:52] <dr_willis> IF the iso file is setup right
[08:52] <dr_willis> and i doubt windows7 uis
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I concur.
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> kojul: yes, you can boot straight from an iso on hdd using a specially made grub menu
[08:54] <suna> i wanted to install windows 7 in vbox at first becouse i was tired of messing with trying to fix my render3d error for skyrim when i had no problem with it in windows. but if i can fix it without doing that that would be awsome i like ubuntu but i use my pc mostly for gaming and watching videos so thats why i was going too install it with vbox becouse ubuntu doesnt seem to have any drivers to fix that rendering problem for skyrim for my 
[08:55] <suna> never had a problem with it
[08:55] <dr_willis> wow.. 4% question.. 96% illrevant info. ;)
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: what kind of machine is it?
[08:55] <dr_willis> Gameing in Vbox - is going to be poor.
[08:56] <suna> sorry about that dr im not good at explaining stuff
[08:56] <auronandace> suna: it seems rather silly to me to install win7 in vbox when you are running a wubi install (you already have windows natively on the machine)
[08:56] <dr_willis> best would be to find an actual fix for youw windows system issues
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: os-ception 0_0
[08:56] <marcs1989> Is there a teaser video advertising how awesome gimp is somewhere? I'm trying to demonstrate Linux' awesomeness to a frustrated Windows 8 user.
[08:57] <suna> its a gateway nv59 with a i5 intel proccesor and standard intel grapics card
[08:57] <dr_willis> or just try running skyrim in wine. even then - i bet it will be poor.
[08:57] <theadmin> A VM inside a VM inside a VM
[08:57] <theadmin> marcs1989: That's best done with a LiveCD :P
[08:57] <bazhang> marcs1989, try #gimp
[08:57] <l0tbet> vmception
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcs1989: show him the gnome menu. I bet he misses his start button
[08:57] <marcs1989> theadmin: If only I was physically with them!
[08:57] <theadmin> marcs1989: Well, nothing stops you from sending a download link to them.
[08:57] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  i tend to just to impress them by using linux as they watch... and wonder why i dont need to defrag. or av scan.. or how i can install it to 10 pcs for free...
[08:58] <suna> dr i was using wine and playonlinux the first time when trying too play skyrim on my unbuntu computer
[08:58] <kojul> gnome? what's that ? ;)
[08:58] <dr_willis> !gnomr
[08:58] <dr_willis> !gnome
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: he was jokin, see da wink
[08:58] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: To heck with Gnome. Classic environment = Xfce.
[08:58] <dr_willis> Lubuntu!  C64 Geos!
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> kojul: I still have gnome on my precise.
[08:58] <vamp774> Why not just get Skyrim for a console then and keep ubuntu on your PC.  Running it with wine will be poor
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I rather like my gnome
[08:59] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, that's your own choice, but it's no longer the "classic" environment Windows people are used to.
[08:59] <suna> becouse i dont have 250d for a tv and 40dollars for skyrim and then 250d for the xbox
[08:59] <marcs1989> theadmin ntzrtthihu777: They just want to make it look less like a tablet.
[08:59] <kojul> ntzrmtthihu777: I haven't run gnome for 8 years. So I won't talk smack about it, but I'm just a console whore.
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and I gave [l|x]ubuntu both a try
[08:59] <noobie888> is there an or in an if statement for bash script?
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> noobie888: yup
[09:00] <vamp774> i hear you.  gaming isnt cheap :P
[09:00] <theadmin> noobie888:"an or in an if"... wut
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> if then else fi
[09:00] <suna> having a console in my opinion isnt worth having anymore
[09:00] <suna> you have to buy the tv
[09:00] <suna> then you have to buy the console
[09:00] <bazhang> !ot | suna
[09:00] <kojul> last guy i ran in linux was DWM, and before that it was enlightenment 16.
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: I feel the same, but watch it, FloodBot1 will getcha
[09:00] <kojul> GUI
[09:00] <noobie888> i want to do an if x= or y =0 , bash restartscript
[09:00] <noobie888> 2 values where each of one returns 0
[09:00] <antubiskut> hello
[09:01] <suna> ok sorry i just want to install skyrim on ubuntu
[09:01] <suna> with it connected to steam. if i cannont then i guess ubuntu isnt for me yet
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> noobie888: if [[ "$x" == 0 || "$y" == 0 ]]
[09:01] <ronalds> kojul nice entartainment in terminal right>
[09:01] <theadmin> noobie888: Ah, easy enough: if test $x -eq 0 -o $y -eq 0 ; then bash restartscript ; fi
[09:01] <dr_willis> !appdb | suna
[09:02] <dr_willis> suna:  may be worth checking if skyrim even works in wine.
[09:02] <suna> i had wine installed and had skryim installed
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: pm me if you like, I'm getting to be pretty handy with wine stuff.
[09:02] <kojul> ronalds: I'm also an apple whore for my laptops, and I haven't had a desktop in 3 years. But all my servers are either ubuntu or gentoo.
[09:02] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Um, the "test" binary uses "=" to check for equality, not ==
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: look again, I did not use [ but [[
[09:02] <theadmin> Oh, what's that do?
[09:03] <ronalds> kojul, cause apple has anything more then ubuntu can do..
[09:03] <dr_willis> Includeing the price tag
[09:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: In zsh it just gives me "bad pattern"
[09:03] <vamp774> suna: why not dual boot?
[09:03] <antubiskut> i got 1 problem..b4 this im using windows and i dont hav any problem connecting my note 2 to my pc via USB...but for my lappy im using ubuntu 12.10 32bit and im having this issue (unable to mount samsung_android)..sorry im kinda new on linux so dont know much..been searcing on uncle google but cant find the solution...tq..
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: makes things a bit simpler. if $y was empty it would ruin [ with unary operator expected
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and I am speaking bash not zsh
[09:04] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  for  tranfering files to/from an android phone - i find it very hard to beat  the 'Airdroid' program - I  rarely bother connecting to the pc via USB cable.
[09:04] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh, never mind, it works in an if statement... Some crazy syntax thing.
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, its nifty
[09:04] <kojul> ronalds: Well, it does. Because it can do anything that Ubuntu can do, and then it does all the crap an apple can do.
[09:04] <AlexQ> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, touchpad stopped working with no reason. External USB mouse works cool. Tried touchpad switch (Fn + F7), displays messages, doesn't help. How to diagnose?
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ#BashFAQ.2BAC8-031.What_is_the_difference_between_test.2C_.5B_and_.5B.5B_.3F
[09:05] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  and the core of the issue is mounting of mtp devices.   which  is still a bit of a work in progress in ubuntu
[09:05] <bazhang> antubiskut, gmtp may work as well
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | AlexQ
[09:05] <theadmin> To heck with bash, for anything more or less complicated I'll write a Python script. Or a Perl script.
[09:05] <AlexQ> ntzrmtthihu777: It's not Aprit yet
[09:05] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, 10.04 is not eol
[09:05] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: 10.04 is not eol
[09:05] <kojul> to heck with bash, anyway, zsh ftw.
[09:05] <dr_willis> !info fish
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> AlexQ: soon to be, bay as well jump ship
[09:06] <SilvereX> How would I set pulseaudio enable-remixing to yes?
[09:06] <dr_willis> no one ever seems to use the fish shell.
[09:06] <antubiskut> owhh...i see...so the only solution is using airdroid..
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I know of it.
[09:06] <SilvereX> my mic doesn't work in steam games but works everywhere else, any apparently it's fixed by setting enable-remixing to yes
[09:06] <bazhang> antubiskut, or gmtp
[09:06] <theadmin> dr_willis: It's fairly uncomfortable because it dumps commonly acknowledged syntax (e.g. "var=value") for some more awkward one (in that case, "set var value")
[09:07] <dr_willis> theadmin:  it does a lot of weirdness.. sadly
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: you for real? that makes me shudder
[09:07] <dr_willis> i know some begeinners that tried it and loved it over bash. :) i dont use it here.
[09:07] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: About what?
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: the fish set var value syntax
[09:07] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah
[09:08] <antubiskut> gmtp??sorry im kinda new on linux so where i can get those??
[09:08] <dr_willis> thats most likely the least of fish's quirks
[09:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: that, my friend, sucks.
[09:08] <six2> hello, hows it goin folks?
[09:08] <theadmin> antubiskut: In Ubuntu, one uses the Software Center to get any app.
[09:09] <theadmin> antubiskut: You can also use the Terminal: sudo apt-get install gmtp
[09:09] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites had some articals on mounting/accessing newer android phones on ubuntu.  worth a read to learn whats going on underneeth.
[09:09] <six2> or 'apt-get install app'
[09:09] <dr_willis> !info gmtp
[09:09] <six2> nm
[09:09] <dr_willis> hmm.  was that what he was asking about? thoght he was acessing a note2
[09:10] <antubiskut> tq...and 1 more thing..where can i learn all sudo tingy command??i would like to learn more on terminal command..
[09:10] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  10000's of bash tutorial sites out there.
[09:10] <megdanov> Hello, i'm having trouble with a driver for my sound missing. Anyone can help ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> !bash | antubiskut
[09:11] <Deathlire> megdanov : what kind of sound card do you have?
[09:11] <SilvereX> How do I set enable-remixing to yes in pulseaudio?
[09:11] <antubiskut> tq..
[09:12] <test1> hello
[09:12] <megdanov> The thing is my laptop has 2 fronts and a mini subwoofer at the bottom(Qosmio X770) . The fronts work, but sub not
[09:13] <AlexQ> ntzrmtthihu777: Don't think upgrade would fix it. xinput --list --long returns only A4 Tech mouse, and on the end, not in Virtual pointer category, there is
[09:13] <AlexQ> "touchpad      	id=6	[floating slave]"
[09:15] <SilvereX> nvm
[09:17] <AlexQ> xinput --test touchpad receives events when I move my finger over the touchpad
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> AlexQ: but in any case soon you won't be able to come bug knowledgable fellows like theadmin and dr_willis about this, so may as well do it ;)
[09:17] <test1> das anyone know the password for ubuntu 12.10 live usb thing
[09:17] <Deathlire> Been lookin up the 770. it doesn't seem to have a very appropriate detail on its sound other than it is a harmon/kardon ...
[09:17] <theadmin> test1: The Ubuntu livecds/usbs don't have a password set. You're not using Ubuntu if you're asked for one. Well, or there was a problem when burning the CD/USB. Might be best to recreate it.
[09:17] <Deathlire> Not seeing a chipset anywhere..so I need more details megdanov
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> test1: there is no password
[09:17] <megdanov> i can give you my Alsa information ?
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> test1: why would you need the password, trying to issue sudo?
[09:18] <Deathlire> megdanov : how about run lsusb in console
[09:18] <theadmin> megdanov: If it's more than 1 line, use http://paste.ubuntu.com , other than that sure.
[09:18] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: "sudo" on the livecd works without a password, too.
[09:19] <Deathlire> or wait..my brains warped lol..forget i said usb
[09:19] <AlexQ> theadmin: dr_willis: xinput --test touchpad returns all moves and all button click with no problem
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I was gonna tell him that.
[09:19] <theadmin> AlexQ: Uhh, sorry, what's your problem again?
[09:20] <AlexQ> AlexQ: My touchpad stopped working
[09:20] <Deathlire> have to excuse me, I don't run ubuntu lately, just a pure debian you could say. but all the same.
[09:20] <AlexQ> theadmin: My touchpad stopped working
[09:20] <theadmin> AlexQ: ...In my opinion that's a good thing, I wish I could disable mine :/
[09:21] <megdanov> Deathlire, it's ok. , thank you anyway
[09:21] <theadmin> AlexQ: Anyway, check the mouse settings to see if it's disabled there
[09:21] <test1> thank you for good messages
[09:22] <AlexQ> theadmin: But I think that there is something wrong in xinput --list --long http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601355/
[09:23] <AlexQ> look down, at the ~ touchpad
[09:23] <AlexQ> guess it shouldn't be "floating slave"
[09:25] <AlexQ> the funny thing is that it returns crazy values of motion a[0] and constant values of a[1] in xinput --test
[09:27] <AlexQ> probably that's because it is not set as a pointer and the mouse events aren't interpreted properly. Where can I set my touchpad as "slave pointer" rather than "floating slave"?
[09:28] <Deathlire> sorry I couldn't be of any help megdanov, but you should look up the actual chipset your integrated soundcard has..I'm sure ppl can help you alot more with that info.
[09:31] <zetheroo> did Ubuntu 11.10 come with grub2 ?
[09:31] <theadmin> zetheroo: Grub2 is the default since Karmic, being 9.10
[09:32] <zetheroo> ok nice - thanks
[09:32] <AlexQ> theadmin: How can I attach my "touchpad" into Virtual core pointer as a slave pointer, instead of being floating slave in X.org?
[09:32] <theadmin> AlexQ: I have no idea what any of those even mean, eh.
[09:33] <AlexQ> theadmin: X device states, I can't find how can I control them. Where are X input device settings?
[09:34] <theadmin> AlexQ: I'd suppose in xorg.conf (or xorg.conf.d)
[09:38] <AlexQ> AlexQ: There is synaptics set properly I guess
[09:39] <AlexQ> theadmin: I'll try to reinstall the synaptics driver
[09:39] <knoppies> Hi, I am trying to do a PXE boot xubuntu12.04.2 install using a local HTTP mount of the .iso file. I've reached a point where it says "No Kernal Modules where found" and then says there is probably a kernal mismatch between the version of the PXE boot (an ubuntu one) and the local xubuntu archive
[09:40] <knoppies> Does anybody have any ideas how i can get around this?
[09:40] <liminal> hello
[09:41] <AlexQ> theadmin: Maybe when I upgraded Chrome the synaptics package was upgraded and that caused problems? I'll remove it completely, then reboot, then install it again and then reboot.
[09:41] <theadmin> AlexQ: Well, you can sure try, but it obviously has nothing to do with Chrome
[09:42] <AlexQ> theadmin: What is "Remove completely" in Synaptic package manager; should I use that option on this pkg?
[09:42] <AlexQ> Or just simply Remove?
[09:42] <theadmin> AlexQ: "Remove completely" maps to apt-get purge, i.e. it removes the configuration files as well
[09:42] <knoppies> AlexQ, remove completely (including the config files) is purge.
[09:42] <theadmin> AlexQ: MIght be best to use that in this case
[09:42] <AlexQ> so it would be better
[09:43] <AlexQ> but when I select it and "Apply", there is list "To be removed: xserver-xorg-input-all"
[09:43] <AlexQ> doesn't look safe at all
[09:44] <knoppies> AlexQ, Im sure that is just a meta package.
[09:44] <AlexQ> ok, so proceed
[09:45] <AlexQ> reboot & reinstall of that package, thanks, hope will help. Bye
[09:46] <phozon_> Hi all
[09:50] <user82> hello. does the ubuntu mac image start on a normal intel pc?
[09:52] <phozon_> normally
[09:53] <user82> maybe the boot stick is messed up then... thanks phozon_
[09:54] <phozon_> get norm image
[09:58] <ryorky1> whenever I restart my system, my swap files are turned off.  What can I do to make sure they are always on?
[09:59] <ryorky1> I'm running dual boot win 7 and ubuntu 12.04 and have 13 gigs of swap files
[09:59] <ryorky1> rather swap partition
[10:01] <{mikey}> ryorky1, you could make sure the uuid is correct in your  /etc/fstab
[10:01] <{mikey}> and come to that that you have a swap entry in fstb
[10:01] <{mikey}> fstab
[10:01] <suna> does anyone here use steam?
[10:02] <suna> for gaming
[10:02] <Ben64> !anyone | suna
[10:02] <ryorky1> {mikey}:  I'm pretty sure it is:  here is what's in my fstab file:
[10:02] <ryorky1> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:02] <ryorky1> #
[10:02] <ryorky1> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[10:02] <ryorky1> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[10:02] <ryorky1> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[10:02] <FloodBot1> ryorky1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <suna> i don tknow what ubottu ment but
[10:03] <Ben64> suna: it means "does anyone..." type questions don't really help anything
[10:04] <suna> i was asking that ben becouse i dont want too ask my question like i have many times before and no one have a clue
[10:04] <Ben64> suna: it only takes a few seconds to type a question. you won't know who can answer it until you ask it
[10:05] <suna> anways onwards with my question i wish to install a game on my desktop example skyrim but some of the mods recuire it being linked to steam do i have to install it using steam or could i install it on my desktop then link it to steam some how
[10:06] <Ben64> oh you're talking about steam on wine
[10:06] <ryorky1> {mikey}:  here is the paste of my code:  http://pastie.org/6439399  let me know if you see anything that looks off
[10:06] <suna> and ben true but you know how many times ive asked this same qustion it gets old when you have 100 people in a chat that cant andswer any of my questions
[10:06] <Ben64> theres actually 1693
[10:06] <Ben64> much more than 100 :)
[10:06] <knoppies> Ben64, and how many of those are idling?
[10:07] <Ben64> impossible to know
[10:07] <suna> ok i dont want to start some flame war all i want is to get skyrim installed on my computer
[10:07] <suna> ive been trying to get this done for like 5 days
[10:07] <Ben64> suna: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24749
[10:07] <blackjack69> what is skyrim??
[10:08] <suna> ima about to say f it and find a way  to get windows again ben i have already tryed that
[10:08] <{mikey}> ryorky1, check the uuid of the last line against 'ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l'
[10:08] <suna> i had wine and wine tricks installed tryed it that way
[10:10] <Ben64> suna: you might want to try #winehq then
[10:10] <suna> then i uninstalled that and tryed it with playonlinux
[10:10] <suna> i think ima just go to bed and get windows tommarrow its 3:09 here
[10:10] <bazhang> suna, you should take this to #winehq , thats where it belongs
[10:10] <suna> true
[10:10] <suna> but that channel no one andswers
[10:10] <bazhang> so be patient
[10:10] <Ben64> the appdb has a lot of info, and its rated gold. it can't be that hard to get working
[10:10] <{mikey}> suna can't imagine skyrim runs well under wine anyway.
[10:10] <suna> i have asked this same question in that channel and alot more and everyone seems to be idleing and bazhang i did wait for 2hours on the first 3
[10:10] <Ben64> {mikey}: from the appdb - "With an NVidia GTX570, i5 2500k@4GHz, and 16GB RAM as a test system, this game runs smoother then when I was on Windows 7."
[10:11] <bazhang> suna, well thats where it belongs. wait as long as it takes.
[10:11] <suna> ok then i guess that  andswers my question
[10:11] <suna> ima hit to bed
[10:11] <suna> and hopfully i can get ahold of a family freind or something to get me a copy of windows
[10:12] <{mikey}> Ben64, the skyrim / oblivion engine is junky though, I got 70% through oblivion under wine which was gold rated awell before realising minor critical events were miss firing
[10:12] <suna> i shouldnt have to reaserch stuff then when i need help have too jump thought 10 thousand loops to get a andswer when in windows all i have to do is click install on steam then install skyrim
[10:13] <bazhang> !ot | suna
[10:13] <suna> then play it
[10:13] <bazhang> suna, thats enough
[10:13] <{mikey}> suna, in windows you *cannot* install a game for another os
[10:14] <suna> what have a done wrong baz all ive wanted to do is install a game ive asked at least 2k people how to do that on ubuntu and only 1 could help me install it
[10:14] <suna> and after that i got a render error
[10:14] <{mikey}> suna, if that's what you want wait for them to release it under steam for linux, although I would hold my breath
[10:14] <ikonia> suna: I'll make it clear for you
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 1.) windows games are not supported in linux - they may/may not work at random times with software such as wine
[10:15] <bazhang> suna, lets move on.  #winehq is what is needed. this is NOT the complaints channel
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 2.) ubuntu doesn't make wine - or make games work/fail with wine
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 3.) if you are having problems with wine not working with a game - #winehq is the channel that needs to help you
[10:15] <Ben64> suna: theres like 70+ pages of text on the appdb about it. start reading
[10:15] <suna> dont worry about it ikonia thats what im saying and bazhang this is why you dont get new users of ubuntu or linux all together i bid yall goodday
[10:16] <ikonia> suna: 4.) if you are unwilling to even read if your game is in a supported status on the wine web site - there is no point discussing anything
[10:16] <ikonia> suna: bye
[10:16] <{mikey}> suna, LOL
[10:17] <Ben64> psst, the ban is not on the ip address, its on the hostname
[10:17] <ikonia> Ben64: it's fine it's webchat so he's muted
[10:17] <ikonia> that will do
[10:18] <xro> Hi, i'm looking for the best way to do a media server with ubuntu.... What do you recommand?
[10:18] <Ben64> xro: media server for....?
[10:18] <Shirakawasuna> xro: Is this media server serving up media via the network, or hooked up to a TV/projector?
[10:19] <xro> Ben64, movies... dlna, upnp, download torrents and so on
[10:19] <Ben64> xro: i meant what will be playing the media
[10:20] <one_year_love> hello
[10:20] <xro> Ben64, an old laptop for the server,  a raspberry  and a samsung tv as clients
[10:20] <Guest70638> Hello
[10:20] <Shirakawasuna> xro: Does that mean it's all network? I still can't tell.
[10:20] <Ben64> xro: well i'm not sure about the tv, but the raspberry pi can do just about anything. I use samba for mine
[10:20] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <xro> Yes, all through my LAN
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Ben64> jesus
[10:21] <ikonia> what happened there
[10:21] <ikonia> just a flood
[10:22] <Ben64> he must write a raw image blah blah and doesn't blah
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: hang on for a moment please.
[10:22] <xro> Ben64, he TV use dlna...
[10:22] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: that is unacceptable - stop for a minute
[10:22] <ikonia> please
[10:22] <zyngawow> hello, can anyone help m? I've got an ssd and an hdd, and I've installed win7 on half of my ssd. How can I tell ubuntu to install itself on the rest of the ssd instead of the HDD?
[10:22] <Ben64> xro: mediatomb maybe?
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: please hold on a moment
[10:23] <{mikey}> all work and no play makes <Guest70638> a dull boy
[10:23] <ikonia> {mikey}: that's not helpful
[10:23] <Ben64> !info mediatomb
[10:23] <xro> Ben64, mediatomb is a good solution? there are 10 dlna solutions....
[10:23] <Ben64> cool, it still exists
[10:23] <ikonia> Guest70638: last time - that is unacceptable, do not talk to people like that again
[10:23] <Ben64> xro: i used to use it for streaming to a ps3
[10:24] <Ben64> ikonia: am i missing something? he hasn't said anything for 3 minutes
[10:24] <Shirakawasuna> there are a bajillion network media server frameworks out there, xro. For the most basic things, samba is nice. But you probably want something snazzier. Something like mediatomb or Plex
[10:24] <ikonia> Ben64: missed a line
[10:24] <Shirakawasuna> and for the pi hooked up to the TV, xbmc will be happy to deal with either samba or upnp
[10:25] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <xro> Ben64, Shirakawasuna, ok about that (i have xbmc on my pi).... And what about the download function. I know there are some soft that automatically start download, rename file, classify them and so on...
[10:26] <Shirakawasuna> xro: I don't really know, sorry
[10:27] <Ben64> yeah i'm not sure either. i record stuff with mythtv, and use ffmpeg manually to change to a pi-happy format
[10:28] <Shirakawasuna> there's probably on-the-fly transcoding options... in theory ;)
[10:28] <xro> Ben64, my pi read mkv, avi and so on...
[10:29] <knoppies> If I use the PXE netboot installer (which states 12.04.1) and then try install from a local 12.04.2 iso served over HTTP, will I have any issues? (Like kernal mismatch)
[10:29] <bekks> knoppies: Sure. Just run sudo apt.-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:29] <ikonia> knoppies: there will be differences, why not just copy over the pxe files to the pxe server to they are in sync
[10:30] <Guest59875> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:30] <Guest59875> it is not allowing me to install updates
[10:30] <knoppies> ikonia, you mean the pxe files from the 12.04.2 iso? Are they even on there?
[10:30] <bekks> Guest59875: How do you try to install the updates?
[10:30] <ikonia> knoppies: should be
[10:31] <Guest59875> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:31] <ronalds> how to change startup options for openbox settup
[10:31] <bekks> Guest59875: How do you try to install the updates?
[10:32] <starbuck33> when comes a new LTS version of ubuntu?
[10:33] <harry_> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:33] <knoppies> ikonia, I dont see it, is it only in the alternate iso?
[10:33] <jrib> harry_: pastebin what your actual input and output are
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: I would expect it to be on the normal one too
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: or you could be sneaky and just grab those files off the web
[10:33] <knoppies> ikonia, do you know which folder its under? find cant even find it.
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: not got a CD here to check, sorry
[10:34] <knoppies> ikonia, I got some files off the web already, but they state they are for the 12.04.1 and I'm worried that it will clash with the 12.04.2 kernel.
[10:35] <hossein> I am trying to install a package
[10:35] <ikonia> knoppies: I wouldn't worry about a clash as the pxe is just to boot it onto the network
[10:35] <hossein> but I get this error
[10:35] <hossein> Unable to locate the mypackage package
[10:35] <ikonia> hossein: what is the package name
[10:35] <hossein> rosdep
[10:35] <ikonia> !info rosdep
[10:36] <ikonia> hossein: that package name is not in the default ubuntu repos
[10:36] <knoppies> ikonia, yea I know, but I just tried to do ubuntu to a xubuntu image and it states "No kernel modules were found. This is probably due to the mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive."
[10:36] <hossein> so what should I do
[10:36] <hossein> :)
[10:36] <ikonia> hossein: find that package elsewhere or get the right package name
[10:36] <ikonia> knoppies: that's quite surprising as the base kernel version is the same
[10:37] <ikonia> knoppies: I'd try it to ubuntu->ubuntu
[10:37] <ikonia> knoppies: just see what happens,
[10:37] <hossein> I am trying to install it using this code: "svn co http://alufr-ros-pkg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/rgbdslam_freiburg"
[10:37] <davis776> hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[10:37] <ikonia> hossein: yeah, apt-get won't work with source code
[10:37] <knoppies> ikonia, thats what I thought. That is what Im trying to do now, but Im afraid that if I download a 12.04.2 disk then it will fail, and I will have to download a 12.04.1 disk. I pay for my data. Would rather avoid it if I cant.
[10:37] <hossein> so how can I install it?
[10:38] <ikonia> hossein: you'll need to compile it, there are normally README and INSTALL text files in it
[10:38] <hossein> it downloads the package but cannot locate it!
[10:38] <ikonia> knoppies: a reasonable concern, I'd be surprised if it didn't work as the pxe boot is just enough to boot it
[10:38] <ikonia> hossein: it's not a package, - it's source code
[10:39] <hossein> ow
[10:39] <hossein> can you please tell me what is different
[10:39] <hossein> or give me a link to go and read
[10:40] <ikonia> hossein: a package is pre-compiled and ready to run, source code needs to be compiled into binaries to be able to run
[10:40] <hossein> wow
[10:40] <hossein> great
[10:40] <harry_> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:40] <ikonia> hossein: if you are at this level of knowledge, I'd suggest a.) reading up on source code b.) trying to find a pre-compiled package c.) make a request on launchpad.net for a package to be built
[10:40] <harry_> and update dialouge box closes
[10:40] <tobia> hi
[10:41] <knoppies> thank you ikonia
[10:41] <tobia> zou ai am italian
[10:41] <hossein> ok thanks alot
[10:41] <megdanov> I have toshiba qosmio x770 laptop. Can't get the subwoofer to work . No driver. Can any1 help me?
[10:41] <harry_> and update dialouge box closes: can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:42] <dr_willis> harry_:  start with the command line and try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin any error messages for the channel to see.
[10:42] <Georgy> Guys, if anyone can help, i have the same problem as here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043 but there is no solution given in this topic, so if anyone has an idea ?
[10:42] <dr_willis> Georgy:  check askubuntu.com yet?
[10:43] <harry_> ok ill try that
[10:43] <dr_willis> and summarize the issue a little bit :) most people wont go to every URL posted just to read about a problem they may know nothing about
[10:44] <harry_> how do i do the paste bin procedure?
[10:44] <harry_> i am very new, to this interface, i just got sick of windows 8
[10:44] <marcs1989> victory!
[10:51] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[10:51] <k1l> kristenbb_: make sure  that the headers of your kernel version are installed
[10:52] <k1l> (they are needed for the video driver)
[10:52] <kristenbb_> what does that mean?
[10:52] <k1l> kristenbb_: show a "uname -a " please
[10:52] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[10:53] <dr_willis> if your video drivers are not supporting the 3d desktop.  unity will default down to the 2d version
[10:53] <kristenbb_> k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:53] <k1l> ah, Ben64 got the matching installing command
[10:53] <Ben64> k1l: works on every kernel :)
[10:54] <Ben64> or in this instance, could just do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[10:57] <blackjack69> i need to triple boot my system with windows xp, windows 8 and ubuntu.. i have two hard disks .. 1st hd dual boots windows xp and win 8 .. the 2nd hd has my data.. on whch hd should i install ubuntu now.. given that i dont want to mess up my working environment..
[10:58] <Georgy> Buy new h
[10:58] <Georgy> hd (:
[10:58] <FerkSwe> Hey, I'm having some odd problems with my keyboard settings. I set it to swedish over and over again, but it keeps reverting to american.
[10:58] <davis776> hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[10:58] <blackjack69> cant buy new hd.. no money
[11:00] <_cronus_> Georgy, does the memory test option work?
[11:00] <dr_willis> blackjack69:  backup your data drive. and install it  there..
[11:00] <FerkSwe> Hah! You're still here Georgy! Still not working for you?
[11:01] <dr_willis> blackjack69:  you can even put grub on that data drive so you boot it instead.. leaveing the windows drives untouched
[11:01] <blackjack69> data drive has lots of empty space..i will shrink it and crate a new partition...
[11:02] <blackjack69> grub wont affect my existing setup..ie the windows 8 and xp dual boot on the other drive??
[11:02] <bekks> blackjack69: There is no guarantuee.
[11:02] <blackjack69> okay
[11:03] <bekks> blackjack69: You really should have a backup before chaning something at your partitioning scheme.
[11:03] <blackjack69> how are you mentioning me BTW??
[11:03] <dr_willis> !tab
[11:03] <blackjack69> i am new to IRC
[11:03] <FerkSwe> blackjack69: Yeah... Backups are a Very good idea...
[11:03] <dr_willis> data not backed up - is data thats on borrowed time
[11:04] <blackjack69> okay i will backup everything.. it's gonna take a long time :(
[11:04] <bekks> blackjack69: You'll take more time to restore it after loosing it :)
[11:04] <Sjajne_Niti> FerkSwe, speaking of backups, is it safe to remove backup monitor from start up apps?
[11:04] <bekks> Sjajne_Niti: Yes, it is.
[11:05] <dr_willis> a hard drive truely is the weakest link these days.. one can die at any time.
[11:05] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, cool :)
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, and tell me pls, how to remove zeitgeist from start up
[11:06] <Mairusu> Hello, I'm having issues with CCSM not saving settings. Problem is: Unity disabled itself; re-enabling it in ccsm works, but that's lost between reboots. Any advice?
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, I removed it from start up but I can see it still runs some apps
[11:06] <bekks> Sjajne_Niti: I never used that, sorry.
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, kk
[11:06] <bekks> !autostart > Sjajne_Niti
[11:08] <FerkSwe> Anyone know where the alsa-base.conf is stored?
[11:10] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[11:10] <FerkSwe> Found it! >D
[11:10] <FerkSwe> *:D
[11:10] <Val1> Any C programmers?
[11:10] <FerkSwe> Val1: I can't C anyone!
[11:11] <k1l> !ot | Val1
[11:12] <djbengan> hi
[11:12] <djbengan> i got a question
[11:13] <FerkSwe> DjBengan? Is it related to ubuntu on a mac?
[11:13] <djbengan> Hi ferk!
[11:13] <djbengan> lol
[11:13] <djbengan> ^^
[11:13] <djbengan> yes
[11:13] <djbengan> indeed
[11:13] <FloodBot1> djbengan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <Traumeel> haha
[11:13] <Traumeel> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <FerkSwe> djbengan: Morning
[11:14] <FerkSwe> djbengan: What is your problem today then_
[11:14] <k1l> Traumeel: please no bot scripts in here.
[11:14] <djbengan> i rly need to use the proparary driver, but, whenever install it, xorg kinda tells me i got no screen
[11:14] <djbengan> (no screen found error)
[11:15] <k1l> djbengan: which uubuntu, which videocard, which driver? where is the driver from?
[11:15] <k1l> just for testing: http://ubuntu.com
[11:15] <Traumeel> [ Home | Ubuntu ] - http://ubuntu.com
[11:16] <djbengan> Latest relase, Nvidia card, in the macbook air, and the driver is nvidia-current
[11:16] <Georgy> Hi evr1, this is my first time on Ubuntu Forums..
[11:16] <Georgy> My lap-top sys,specs:ASUS Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3200 @ 2.00GHz
[11:16] <Georgy> :NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 512MB
[11:16] <Georgy> Motherboard- PEGATRON CORPORATION X71SL
[11:16] <Georgy> :3BG ram
[11:16] <FloodBot1> Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <Georgy> I have previously installed ubuntu maverick on my acer aspire one, and on several other PC, but when it came to my asus it just wont install..
[11:16] <Georgy> (i have tried this from CD-boot and USB-boot I also have a 50Gb partition so it will be along side windows)
[11:17] <k1l> Georgy: dont paste that much textlines in here
[11:17] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[11:17] <k1l> kristenbb_: didnt you install the headers?
[11:17] <djbengan> and, i followed the wiki for my macbook air, the 3,1
[11:17] <djbengan> and tried installing the headers
[11:17] <djbengan> wich broke unity
[11:17] <Deathlire> you can go without that 3d thing..it's much better anyways.
[11:18] <Georgy> k1l, well i try to solve my problem for 2 days now :(
[11:18] <Georgy> Noone knows the answer :(
[11:18] <kristenbb_> k1l: I don't know what that means. uname -a shows 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:18] <k1l> Georgy: even if its 2 years that is no reason to flood the channel with that much textlines at once
[11:18] <Deathlire> wait a minute..maverick..is that 9.10?
[11:18] <Georgy> Sorry
[11:19] <bekks> Deathlire: Yeah, its dead.
[11:19] <k1l> kristenbb_: that was just a information for me. Ben64 gave you the correct command. just scroll up and re read
[11:19] <Georgy> bekks, i found my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[11:19] <Georgy> Maybe you can help ?
[11:20] <kristenbb_> k1l: oh sorry I didn't know this applied to me, he wasn't answering me. So am I to execute this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g) ?
[11:20] <Deathlire> I loved maverick..
[11:20] <k1l> kristenbb_: yes
[11:20] <Deathlire> don't really like anything to do with unity though..just my opinion though
[11:20] <bekks> Georgy: Did you try all the different suggestions mentioned in that post?
[11:21] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:21] <FerkSwe> Deathlire: Agree. Just switched to gnome 3
[11:21] <Deathlire> but there is some good..even with the new ones of disabling it and using the old desktop of course
[11:21] <kristenbb_> k1l: okay, I'm doing it right now. While it is downloading, could you please explain what this is, and why I need it ?
[11:22] <Georgy> bekks, yes nomodeset everything
[11:22] <Georgy> bekks, nothing helps :(
[11:22] <FerkSwe> djbengan: So, when you install your drivers, unity dies?
[11:22] <bekks> Georgy: What else mentioned in that post did you try?
[11:22] <ShapeShifter499> I have this rather large key marked with a "P" in the upper right of my laptop keyboard, I remember this being some kind of "program launching" key that worked when I had windows installed, can I remap this to cycle through my workplaces?,
[11:23] <Deathlire> is there a reason you want unity? is it a touchscreen or something?
[11:23] <djbengan> no, the display goes black
[11:23] <djbengan> everything
[11:24] <Deathlire> ShapeShifter499 : yes you sure could as long as it doesn't use the same interupts as some other key
[11:24] <Deathlire> djbengan : what kind of video card do you have? and processor..i may know the problem
[11:25] <ShapeShifter499> Deathlire, as it stands constantly tapping the key seems to do nothing at all so I'm assuming its a blank key aimed for windows only uses, how would I remap this key btw?
[11:25] <we6jbo> hi
[11:26] <k1l> kristenbb_: you need the kernel headers to "compile" the drivers for your kernel version. that is what the driver-installer should do. but if you dont have the headers he cant compile and cant install. so you cant run 3d and get to the unity2d
[11:26] <djbengan> Nvidia GeForce 320M
[11:26] <djbengan> intel dualcore 1,4
[11:26] <Georgy> bekks, well there were no other solutions, and im not going to install 10.04 or smth
[11:26] <we6jbo> I have a question
[11:26] <you-tee-f> is ubuntu a GNU os ?
[11:26] <dr_willis> Gnu tools are used in Linux.
[11:26] <k1l> Deathlire: unity is not only for touchscreens. lets stick to the technical issue in here and not to personal favorites
[11:27] <you-tee-f> yes i saw glibc
[11:27] <dr_willis> Gnu dosent really hae an OS themselfs as far as i know
[11:27] <Deathlire> well if memory serves right you could remap it using the ah can't even remember but it comes with normal versions before unity..and it may not be preinstalled on yours..can someone help me out here?
[11:27] <kristenbb_> k1l: the drivers of what ? why can't I download a compiled version, as it is usually the case ?
[11:27] <FerkSwe> djbengan: Do you have access to a console using ctrl + alt f3 ?
[11:28] <Deathlire> headers are source..they aren't a binary
[11:28] <k1l> kristenbb_: that is the easiest way for you. just make sure you have the headers installed. the rest does the driver-installer for you
[11:28] <we6jbo> Is there a way to not have Ubuntu ask me to enter a password when I close and reopen the laptop lid?
[11:28] <k1l> kristenbb_: the driver for your video-card
[11:28] <onebitxajax> gi to all
[11:28] <FerkSwe> we6jbo: Got ubuntu tweaks installed?
[11:28] <onebitxajax> i have a missing header can somene point me how to get it?
[11:28] <onebitxajax> GL3/gl3w.h: No such file or directory
[11:29] <FerkSwe> we6jbo: I belive there's an option in there
[11:29] <djbengan> no tty is not availble when xorg + headers are installed
[11:29] <you-tee-f> dr_willis, well my question is then : ubuntu is based on GNU paradigm ? i saw the glibc was used compiling programs
[11:29] <Deathlire> sorry k1l : I am doing all this from memory in the sense I haven't used pure ubuntu in a bit. just mostly deb and bt quite a bit lately
[11:29] <ikonia> you-tee-f: you're question makes no sense
[11:29] <k1l> Georgy: maverick is out of support.
[11:29] <ikonia> your even
[11:29] <kristenbb_> k1l: okay, the download is done. What now ?
[11:29] <kristenbb_> k1l: should I just restart the computer ?
[11:29] <you-tee-f> sorry i'm not native, hard to get it
[11:29] <you-tee-f> ;-)
[11:30] <onebitxajax> nobody can help?
[11:30] <k1l> kristenbb_: which video card do you have?
[11:30] <kristenbb_> k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.?
[11:30] <kristenbb_> k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.
[11:30] <k1l> kristenbb_: "lspci" will list your video card
[11:31] <Georgy> k1l what does that mean ?
[11:31] <you-tee-f> ikonia, ubuntu has some GNU features, does that mean ubuntu was intented to be a GNU system ?
[11:31] <k1l> Georgy: out of support means. no updates, no security updates and fixes and no support in here
[11:31] <kristenbb_> k1l: many lines appear when I type lspci, which one am I to report ?
[11:31] <ikonia> you-tee-f: an "gnu system"??? what
[11:31] <Deathlire> uhm GNU..is GNU..
[11:31] <we6jbo> FerkSwe: No tweaks
[11:32] <ikonia> you-tee-f: it's a linux distribution, made out of the Linux kernel and the Gnu tools
[11:32] <k1l> kristenbb_: the one talking about VGA controller or video card
[11:32] <Georgy> k1l, so in other words, no Ubuntu for me :( ?
[11:32] <kristenbb_> k1l: then perhaps this one: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 95c2
[11:32] <k1l> Georgy: just install a ubuntu that is in the support-range
[11:32] <Deathlire> if your doing lspci ...look for something to do with nvidia-amd-radeon-ati something like..
[11:32] <you-tee-f> ikonia, ok thanks
[11:33] <Georgy> k1l, 12.10 is ?
[11:33] <k1l> Georgy: yes, and 12.04. and 10.04 untill april this year
[11:33] <Georgy> k1l; Well i have the 12.10 lol ?
[11:34] <Ben64> kristenbb_: you might want to do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall dkms" but i'm not sure if ati needs it
[11:34] <k1l> Georgy: then why are you talking about maverick? 12.10 is quantal
[11:34] <Georgy> WHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?
[11:34] <k1l> Ben64: or reinstall fglrx?
[11:35] <eric-97> how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?
[11:35] <Ben64> k1l: shouldn't be necessary
[11:35] <andrei> hey
[11:35] <boomer41> Hello, is there a way to add a CA Certificate automaticly - so that every ubuntu system trusts this cert?
[11:35] <Deathlire> you realy want to rsync a command to make a backup every x seconds? correct?
[11:36] <kristenbb_> so I should try to reinstall dkms ? What is it ?
[11:36] <jigal> hello i have installed ubuntu server on my vps. now when i do apt-get update i get this error temorary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[11:36] <Ben64> !info dkms | kristenbb_
[11:36] <Seveas> jigal: can you resolve other hostnames?
[11:36]  * api984 is away: Don't follow me
[11:36] <Kartagis> ikonia: can you help me? sorry for pinging you like that but I can't seem to find a solution
[11:36] <bazhang> api984, disable that
[11:36] <Seveas> api984: stop spamming the channel with away messages
[11:36] <jigal> Seveas, nope it seems i have to add a nameserver or so?
[11:37] <k1l> !away > api984
[11:37] <ikonia> Kartagis: depends what the problem is
[11:37] <Deathlire> jigal sounds like on your vps the DNS isn't setup right
[11:37] <Seveas> jigal: yeah, pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[11:37] <kristenbb_> Ben64: so wait, was it useless to try to install the kernel headers after all ?
[11:37] <ikonia> Seveas: don't forget the new stupid resolver setup
[11:37] <Seveas> ikonia: that's done on servers too?
[11:37] <Ben64> kristenbb_: no, you need the headers in order for it to build a module
[11:37] <Georgy> k1l, WHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?
[11:37] <ikonia> Seveas: I thought it had been put in on 12.10.....not betting my life
[11:38] <Deathlire> eh, it's always good to install kernel headers..if you have the space :)
[11:38] <Seveas> ikonia: on my fresh 12.10 vps it's not doing that
[11:38] <jigal> Seveas, nameserver 109.72.90.52
[11:38] <ikonia> Seveas: then "no"
[11:38] <bekks> Georgy: You did. Now please lets get back to support.
[11:38] <Seveas> jigal: ok, pasterbin the output of: dig @109.72.90.52 google.com
[11:38] <bekks> Georgy: Did you try all the suggestions that where mentioneed in the forum post you linke, besides nomodeset?
[11:38] <Georgy> There were no other ?
[11:39] <Deathlire> try nameservers 1) 8.8.8.8 amd 2.) 8.4.4.8 <- googles nameservers
[11:39] <_cronus_> Georgy, does either the memory test or the boot from hard disk options work?
[11:39] <bekks> Georgy: There are a lot. Read the thread again.
[11:39] <k1l> Georgy: that was in the text you pasted into the channel.
[11:39] <jigal> Seveas, connection time out
[11:39] <kristenbb_> Ben64: so, I typed the reinstall command, and it completed very quickly. What am I to do now ?
[11:39] <Seveas> Deathlire: isn't the second 8.8.4.4
[11:39] <bekks> Georgy: And in the post you linked, there even was a link to more suggestions for problem solutions.
[11:39] <Ben64> yeah its not 8.4.4.8
[11:39] <Deathlire> ahh it might be actually Seveas need to dbl check
[11:39] <Seveas> jigal: replace 109.72.90.52 with 8.8.8.8 and contact your VPS provider to find out which nameservers you should use
[11:40] <Kartagis> ikonia: so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/xen
[11:40] <Kartagis> oops
[11:40] <Ben64> kristenbb_: any errors? did you see it build a module?
[11:40] <Deathlire> actually your VPS sppl should have gave you an email with nameservers and dns and all that..kind of odd they didn't really
[11:40] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[11:40] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[11:40] <Kartagis> ikonia: ^
[11:40] <jigal> Seveas, is it tha same as a DNS? because in my config panel it gives me to DNS adddresses I just used one of them
[11:40] <artrei> what's best driver for nvidia? nouveau or current?
[11:41] <kristenbb_> Ben64: no errors, but I doubt it built anything
[11:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: run ldd against /bin/sh - see what it's looking for
[11:41] <Seveas> jigal: yes.
[11:41] <fermomuoviti> ciao
[11:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: then qualify each of those libraries
[11:41] <fermomuoviti> !list
[11:41] <Georgy> Allright, so i have read whole the topic, the guy still has no solution, he use apprently 11.04 now, and those other options i already tried, nothing helps
[11:41] <Ben64> kristenbb_: well you could restart and see if ubuntu 3d works, but i'm not an expert on ati/amd
[11:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: if I can't boot to it, how can I run ldd?
[11:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: use a livecd ?
[11:42] <bekks> Georgy: So which other option is mentioned there?
[11:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: and if you can't boot - how do you plan to fix this ?
[11:42] <k1l> kristenbb_: no errors doesnt mean nothing happend
[11:42] <kristenbb_> Ben64: k1l : here is the output, awfully brief: http://pastebin.com/yS14USJP
[11:42] <Ben64> Georgy: 11.04 isn't supported either...
[11:43] <Deathlire> I remember having a few problems on an older comp with graphical problems..but is totally unrelated since it was agp related..but ahh nm.
[11:43] <Georgy> Try ubuntu without installing, acpi=off,  ..
[11:44] <bekks> Georgy: And which three other options are mentioned, too?
[11:44] <Ben64> kristenbb_: could you pastebin "find /var/lib/dkms"
[11:45] <Georgy> bekks, all with nomodeset ?
[11:45] <Georgy> using 10.04
[11:45] <Georgy> or 11.04
[11:45] <bekks> Georgy: No. You have to read the complete thread, not just the first few posts.
[11:45] <Georgy> bekks, i read it complete
[11:45] <Georgy> Last ditch effort you can try these flags, they worked well for me on earlier releases.
[11:46] <Georgy> What does that mean ?
[11:46] <Deathlire> i tried all the nomodeset with quite a few distro's..none would even work when my card just simply wouldn't work..and still to this day I can't figure out why
[11:46] <bekks> Georgy: Obviously you didnt read the second page.
[11:46] <Georgy> My post in on the second page
[11:47] <Georgy> And i did read it
[11:47] <Georgy> just dont undstand all those words
[11:47] <bekks> Georgy: Three optioned mentioned, worth a try.
[11:47] <boomer41> How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?
[11:47] <Georgy> I tried them all 3
[11:47] <jigal> Seveas, have added the DNS off google and still same rorr
[11:47] <bekks> Georgy: When? You just said you dont know what it means.
[11:48] <Seveas> jigal: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[11:48] <Georgy> Yeah that one with the flags
[11:48] <Georgy> i tried the other
[11:48] <Deathlire> jigal did you ifconfig eth0 down? and back up
[11:48] <jigal> Seveas, Deathlire it says the network is unreachable
[11:48] <kristenbb_> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/LpyxNmui
[11:48] <boomer41> How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?
[11:49] <Deathlire> what is your host? might be good to actually check if its having some sort of problem before ya go nuts about it?
[11:49] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[11:49] <Icebear> ....
[11:49] <Ben64> kristenbb_: looks like the driver is built
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: although, why aren't you running on the latest kernel?
[11:50] <kristenbb_> Ben64: okay, so I should just restart then ?
[11:50] <jigal> Deathlire, it's a vips
[11:50] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I have no idea?
[11:50] <jigal> vps
[11:50] <Ben64> Mar 10 2013 03:53:27 <kristenbb_>	k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:50] <vivanov> is 13.04 usable now ?
[11:50] <ShapeShifter499> I found a command that works for me in the terminal via the vary last post at the bottom of http://askubuntu.com/questions/5229/how-can-i-bind-a-key-to-cycle-between-workspaces      but when I try to bind this command to a key in "System Settings>Keyboard"   nothing happens, am I doing something wrong?
[11:50] <Deathlire> if the comp won't run on the latest kernel it's probably something to do with it not being able to handle such things..
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: you should be on 3.2.0-38
[11:50] <Seveas> jigal: ok, either your routing is messed up, or there's a firewall in place. Pastebin output of this: ifconfig -a; route -n; iptables-save
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: unless you just haven't restarted in a pretty long while?
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I don't know
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I have restarted just yesterday
[11:51] <Ben64> kristenbb_: well then i'd say restart, and come back here if it's not working still
[11:51] <Seveas> jigal: and while you're at it: outpuf of traceroute 8.8.8.8
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: ok I will, I just have to let some work finish first
[11:52] <kristenbb_> Ben64: thanks a lot for your help
[11:52] <Ben64> kristenbb_: no problem. also, maybe check in grub during boot up to see what kernel it's loading
[11:52] <marc__> hello
[11:52] <ShapeShifter499> never mind, got it working :D
[11:52] <ShapeShifter499> typo lol
[11:53] <Deathlire> nice ShapeShifter499
[11:53] <jigal> ok have to deal with this later gtg now. Seveas thanks
[11:53] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:53] <cristian_c> How to switch audio from mono to stereo?
[11:53] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:02] <eric-97> how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?
[12:03] <Ben64> man rsync
[12:03] <Deathlire> it copies everything..that you wish
[12:03] <eric-97> could you gimme an example of how to copy stuff
[12:04] <Deathlire> cp /home/~user/example.txt /media/eric/data/
[12:04] <eric-97> and how do I do that with rsync?
[12:04] <_cronus_> Kartagis, does this message appear in the initrd stage or after root mount? maybe libc is missing only from initrd
[12:04] <Deathlire> cp is copy ..rsync is for backing up.
[12:05] <eric-97> the reason I want to use rsync is cos it is faster, am I right?
[12:05] <Ben64> eric-97: for reals, use a man page or do "--help" at the end of a command
[12:05] <eric-97> because look, when I copy files to my USB stick it is at first 25 mbps then after 5 minutes it's 5 mbps
[12:05] <Deathlire> usually rsync is for mirroing backups..not for just copying. what are you trying to do eric-97 ?
[12:05] <eric-97> but when I use teracopy on Windows it copies super fast at constant speed
[12:05] <Deathlire> *mirroring*
[12:06] <eric-97> so how do I copy files efficiently to my usb stick without exponentially slowing down speed?
[12:06] <Ben64> flash drives are slow, you can't really get around that
[12:06] <k1l> Deathlire: rsync is for secur copying because it checks the hashes of the files
[12:07] <Deathlire> if your using wireless, those speeds are irrelavent. because negotiaion speeds will deduce when you use them over weak signals
[12:07] <eric-97> is there anything like Teracopy (windows) for linux?
[12:07] <k1l> eric-97: the slowing down is related to the slow writing speed of your usb-stick
[12:07] <Deathlire> and I'm misspelling words like crazy :P
[12:07] <Ben64> and
[12:07] <eric-97> but come on, even an sd card is faster
[12:07] <Kartagis> _cronus_: it appears right after I select the kernel
[12:08] <Ben64> just because it says its going slower doesn't mean it is actually going slower.
[12:08] <Deathlire> it all has to do with your speeds of other things and how it can really keep up with data bursts.
[12:08] <k1l> eric-97: that depends on that usb-stick and the flash memory in it.
[12:08] <Deathlire> but they are right in the word of all
[12:08] <k1l> eric-97: i dont know of a reason why cp or rsync should be slower.
[12:09] <_cronus_> Kartagis, then probably it is missing from initrd. that's why everything looks normal after system is booted.
[12:09] <Deathlire> never trust something that says exact time, it is only an estimation
[12:09] <_cronus_> Kartagis, you could try to extract initrd to verify this...
[12:09] <eric-97> kll: if I have two ISO files, it would be faster ro copy each separately instead of both after eachother
[12:09] <Kartagis> _cronus_: how do I do that?
[12:09] <eric-97> *to
[12:10] <bekks> eric-97: In terms of I/O, thats irrelevant - the copy process will take the same time.
[12:10] <Deathlire> of course it would be faster..that would be seperate files..but not as fast to copy both with cp..so it depends on the eyes of the beholder and your preference
[12:10] <Deathlire> and how much you lag within typing the next copy command
[12:10] <eric-97> then what makes teracopy for windows faster than normal copy?
[12:11] <bekks> Deathlire: Please tell us, in terms of I/O why copying multiple files will take a longer time for each file, when copying one file after the other.
[12:11] <Deathlire> I can't tell you, I haven't used teracopy. But I willtell you windows usually lies about it's copying time and bars.
[12:11] <k1l> eric-97: there is a difference between saying its copying faster and actuall  doing it faster
[12:11] <_cronus_> Kartagis, there should be a tutorial. i'll try to locate it
[12:12] <eric-97> Deathlire: thats what microsoft does since DOS
[12:12] <k1l> eric-97: the best program in the world cant copy faster than the memory can save the data. thats it
[12:12] <eric-97> ok
[12:12] <eric-97> but can I mod the system to let cp cache more?
[12:12] <bekks> eric-97: No.
[12:12] <eric-97> or is it by default?
[12:12] <Deathlire> ahh bekks : If you do one copy of a file and it is 40 gigs and you let it finish while walking away..and it's done before you get back..ya get my drift? :P just copy both at once
[12:13] <bekks> eric-97: The I/O cache will be as big as possible.
[12:13] <eric-97> oh ok
[12:13] <Ben64> cache isn't the problem. the slow flash memory is
[12:13] <Ben64> get a fancy new usb3 flash drive if you want speed
[12:14] <_cronus_> Kartagis, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/
[12:14] <bekks> Deathlire: Copying both at the same time, in terms of I/O, will divide the bandwidth for each file by two. They will take twice the time, and magically, the summed time after finishing copy is the same as copying them one after another.
[12:14] <Deathlire> i'm satisfied with 45MB a second on my usb2.0 500gig seagate..of course it doesn't stay with 45MB, it seems to go down to about 20 or so because of the IO. of course :)
[12:15] <kokanin> i am trying to boot some diskless nodes using warewulf, while doing the exact same thing quantal and raring fail to boot, but precise works. The console just blanks out after busybox switching to the new root using exec switch_root /newroot /sbin/init, does anyone have a clue what might be changed?
[12:15] <Deathlire> bekks  ya missed my point, I was actually saying the same thing as you are, really.
[12:16] <bekks> Deathlire: 45MB/s on USB2 is pretty impossible, since the technical max. is about 33MB/s for the USB2 controllers.
[12:17] <Deathlire> it's hooked up to a 3.0 but i'm only guessing it isn't right since the average speed is around 15-20
[12:17] <bekks> Deathlire: At the beginning of the process, the bandwidth is higher,since the actual process uses the I/O cache in RAM.
[12:18] <Deathlire> plus it hasn't been formatted in awhile either..it's pretty unstable
[12:18] <k1l> and i think that is what the super_duper copy programs do on windows. they just cache everything in ram or the hdd to make it look faster
[12:19] <Deathlire> windows doesn't even really delete files :P
[12:19] <Deathlire> but yeah..probably
[12:19] <k1l> its like painitng GT stripes onto your car. that doesnt makle anything go faster
[12:19] <kokanin> lol
[12:23] <Deathlire> you can cache all ya want, but doesn't matter in the end when the throughput is all worn out :P
[12:28] <intuxicated> hi , i have problem to install nvidia driver , i installed nvidia driver ( nvidia_current package ) , when i try to use 'modprobe nvidia_current' i got error 'No such device'
[12:28] <intuxicated> any idea ?
[12:29] <bekks> intuxicated: Just use "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[12:29] <intuxicated> bekks:kk
[12:30] <intuxicated> bekks: module nvidia not fount
[12:30] <intuxicated> found*
[12:31] <dr_willis> intuxicated:  you did reboot the pc after installing those?
[12:31] <Deathlire> did you get errors while installing? or did you do it by the gui?
[12:32] <intuxicated> dr_willis: i restart the system like 999times
[12:32] <Deathlire> did you try the other driver?
[12:32] <intuxicated> Deathlire: i don't have gui now , i didn't get any error while installing
[12:32] <intuxicated> Deathlire: what other driver ?
[12:32] <Ned_Flanders> hi i need some help
[12:33] <intuxicated> Ned_Flanders: hi :)
[12:33] <Deathlire> well not any expert at all on the matter of graphics..but there used to be 2 versions of the nvidia driver
[12:33] <Nimble> I'm trying to get my touchpad to work with multitouch gestures. I know the hardware has support for it because it works in windows, but on ubuntu the only thing that works is two finger scrolling. Anyone know what I can do?
[12:33] <Deathlire> at least through the gui anyways
[12:34] <intuxicated> Deathlire: you mean with jockey-kde ?
[12:34] <Deathlire> with gnome actually, haven't used kde since the 90's
[12:35] <Deathlire> but still should work either way. I'm guessing you installed via shell?
[12:35] <Deathlire> and that you actually have an nvidia thats supported
[12:35] <WillWork4Foo> Hi all - I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 on an encrypted LVM setup, and I'm trying to work out how to add a second disk to create a mirrored volume group. I can't seem to find a howto anywhere - does anyone know of a good guide?
[12:36] <Ned_Flanders> is it normal for ubuntu 12.4 + gnome to be using 1.8gb of memory?
[12:36] <histo> !raid | WillWork4Foo
[12:36] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know if Kernel 3.2.0-26  Supports 3TB HDDs
[12:36] <abetusk> sorry for the stupid question, but I've installed server 12.10 and now I'm only getting a guest and an anonymous login....how do I enable others to login?
[12:36] <histo> BlackWeb: Why wouldn't it?
[12:37] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: Using LVM, you will have to use a third disk to store the metadata for mirroring, or, the mirror will have to be recreated at every bootup. Using LVM for mirroring is a very bad idea.
[12:37] <BlackWeb> Right now I'm banging my head into a wall trying to format my Brand New 3tb Drives
[12:37] <Deathlire> adduser --help or useradd --help
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: Use GPT
[12:37] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, ah ok. In that case, is there another thing I can do to mirror my OS disk?
[12:37] <WillWork4Foo> instead of LVM?
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: You can't use msdos partioning table you need to use GPT
[12:37] <Ned_Flanders> can anyone help me with a memory leak?
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: like gparted or gdisk  or one of the tools that supports it
[12:38] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: Using software raid would be the alternative - or use a hardware raid.
[12:38] <BlackWeb> On 12.04 Server I can format them but after a couple of reboots then it fails to mount the drives so essentially disables system
[12:38] <BlackWeb> I've tried parted and errors out
[12:38] <BlackWeb> Heres what I've tried
[12:38] <histo> BlackWeb: gparted <<<< notice the G
[12:39] <bekks> histo: The g stands for graphical, in terms of gparted. gparted is based on libparted.
[12:39] <histo> bekks: I know but it does gpt
[12:39] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give gparted a try but ya    parted -a optimal "device" ; mklabel gpt; mkpart; quit ; then mkfs.ext2 "device"
[12:39] <BlackWeb> Does it have to be a certain type?
[12:39] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, OK - is it possible to apply software RAID to an already-installed system? Or is it destructive?
[12:39] <bekks> histo: and the g is totally irrelevant for the features of libparted. :)
[12:40] <BlackWeb> It keep erroring out doing ext3, so now it trying to format it with ext2
[12:40] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: I'd reinstall it - and personally, I dont use encryption.
[12:40] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, OK thanks.
[12:40] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: So you're better of creating a full backup.
[12:40] <histo> BlackWeb: gdisk cgdisk and sgdisk if you want to use a cli app. gparted if you want a gui app for GPT
[12:40] <bekks> BlackWeb: Dont do it. ext2 is an ext3 without a journal.
[12:41] <histo> BlackWeb: What tool did you use to partition the drives/
[12:41] <bekks> BlackWeb: Getting errors errors on mkfs - you should investigate them.
[12:42] <BlackWeb> I've been getting the errors when I'm trying to create a filesystem on the partition
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: And the errors are caused by the MSDOS label you are using. Use GPT, and you will be able to create partitions larger than 2TB.
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: And after creating a partition like that, you will have no problem in using ext4, which is an even better choice than ext3.
[12:42] <BlackWeb> Which so far I've tried using mkfs.ext & parted to do the partitions Both have Failed
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: mkfs doesnt create a partition at all.
[12:43] <histo> BlackWeb: parted should be able to createa  gpt table
[12:43] <BlackWeb> ya used parted to create the partition then mkfs to do the filesystem
[12:43] <Deathlire> new kernels should support 3Tb raids..right?
[12:43] <bekks> BlackWeb:You were using the wrong format. You have to use GPT for a disk > 3TB.
[12:43] <BlackWeb> How would I obtain a newer kernel throught the command line
[12:44] <histo> BlackWeb: It's not the kernel
[12:44] <histo> BlackWeb: Ifyou would listen
[12:44] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, 3 TB is quite small...
[12:44] <BlackWeb> Right now I'm waiting for it to fail again on this format then I'll try those suggestions you mentioned :)
[12:44] <nanashiRei> BlackWeb http://google.com/?q=gpt
[12:45] <nanashiRei> BlackWeb http://google.com/?q=uefi
[12:45] <Deathlire> well they aren't totally huge..but they are bigger than most normal comps. just servers and now I'm remembering this is a server application.
[12:45] <BlackWeb> To be honest I've spent my whole Saturday & Been up for 24hrs trying to get it done, Running on Monster Energy Now
[12:45] <histo> like talking to a wall
[12:45] <Deathlire> maybe you need to rest and the answer will come to those who wait?
[12:46] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, I think the theoretical limit on filesystem size is like 16 exabytes or something silly
[12:46] <histo> BlackWeb: In parted mklabel gpt  then partition
[12:46] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give that a try
[12:47] <Deathlire> exabytes...wow..wish i had even 1 of those :P
[12:47] <histo> BlackWeb: then format and go to bed
[12:47] <BlackWeb> ;) Cheers lol
[12:47] <Hawkerz> 24h, lightweight :p
[12:48] <Deathlire> i do 96 hours no prob :P but I'm usually done with whatever i tried to achieve and twice more at least :P
[12:49] <c2tarun> is there anyway to change the icon of any app in Unity 2D launcher?
[12:49] <nanashiRei> There is nothing that a 24 cans pallet of Redbull or Coffee can't fix :P
[12:49] <Deathlire> I don't do caffeine at all anymore..kills me really..got some probs...i'm 31
[12:51] <Deathlire> my main technological thing is network/wifi anymore
[12:53] <Deathlire> hmm is konversation actually installed default on ubuntu now?
[12:53] <Hawkerz> maybe
[12:53] <Hawkerz> I haven't done a clean install in some time
[12:53] <Deathlire> i doubt it..he used something other than a normal net :P
[12:54] <Hawkerz> if you installed ubuntu desktop I'd be surprised, but if you installed kubuntu maybe
[12:55] <Deathlire> I haven't done a clean install since maverick..far as ubuntu..last thing i have booted is bt5
[12:55] <Georgy> Hawkerz, any other ideas to fix my problem :( ?
[12:55] <Hawkerz> Georgy, what's the current problem?
[12:55] <Georgy> Same as yesterday
[12:55] <Georgy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[12:55] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, the last clean installation I did was MS Dos 6.22
[12:56] <k1l> Deathlire: konverstaion is not a standard program for ubuntu
[12:56] <Deathlire> lol..yeah that was a clean install to nowhere..at least ya didn't say 3.0 :P
[12:56] <k1l> Deathlire: since it uses the gnome base its empathy
[12:56] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, for archival purposes
[12:57] <Deathlire> was figuring that k1l thats the last thing i remember from 11.x something
[12:57] <k1l> Deathlire: konversation is a kde program. it might be standard on kubuntu
[12:57] <sanav> !ot
[12:57] <Deathlire> i actually like win3.11 nice and fast but you have to have some very ancient progs to use it, have those to
[12:58] <k1l> Georgy: what is you actual issue? just pasting a forum thread from 2011 is not supposed to let people help you
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !details|Georgy,
[12:59] <Georgy> cfgowlett, read the link i gave, all details in there
[12:59] <Georgy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[12:59] <Deathlire> i can say without a doubt it may be the pegatron mobo if your using a new distro of ubuntu with the newer Xorg
[13:03] <Lee-C> Hi guys,  can anyone please tell how to use pm-suspend so you need to enter a password on resume like you usually would if clicking the sleep button.  Cheers.
[13:04] <Deathlire> brb in a few
[13:05] <Hawkerz> Georgy, which of those posts is yours...
[13:07] <ronalds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601789/
[13:08] <ronalds> whats wrong with this openbox autostart file
[13:09] <newuser123> whtagwan
[13:10] <coolmanlg> I have a mobile broadband app installed in wine but the app does cannot see the attached usbmodem. Any idea on how I can access the modem from wine?
[13:11] <Deathlire> setup your conf with using usb0-1-2-3 try doing lsusb to find your usb stick
[13:11] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, I'd be surprised if wine has fully realized USB support ...
[13:12] <Hawkerz> wine barely has 32 bit windows executable support
[13:12] <Georgy> Hawkerz, last one, but i have same pc
[13:12] <Georgy> & problem
[13:12] <coolmanlg> Deathlire, which conf?
[13:12] <histo> !appd | coolmanlg
[13:13] <histo> !appdb | coolmanlg
[13:13] <Deathlire> i've got wine to support quite a few things..usually it supports my usb sticks though
[13:13] <Hawkerz> and the same version of ubuntu? IF all of that is true, Georgy , did you follow the instructions in that thread?
[13:13] <Deathlire> wine.conf or winex
[13:13] <histo> Deathlire: Yeah but he would need drivers that the program would understand
[13:13] <histo> coolmanlg: Any reason you don't use the usbmodem in linux?
[13:13] <Deathlire> yeah..usually i needed all drivers and files for emulating to do it right
[13:14] <Lee-C> Can anyone help me with setting resume from pm-suspend to prompt for password please :)
[13:14] <Deathlire> brb gotta put the hamburger up for slaughter :P
[13:14] <Hawkerz> for software running on wine to have seamless integration with os/hardware seems like it would have to  be a miracle -- it's not like he's just trying to access a bag of bits or some files
[13:14] <coolmanlg> histo: the app provide a means to recharge the modem with credit. I have not been able to find a way to send USSD request via the modem
[13:15] <histo> coolmanlg: What kind of modem is it?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, perhaps install windows into a virtualbox, install guest additions and run your app ...
[13:16] <histo> +1 for virtual machine
[13:16] <tobzel> For some odd reason I don't understand my libmysqlclient disappeared from /usr/lib. I've already tried to reinstall libmysqlclient-dev and mysql-client but it doesn't reinstall the fiel
[13:16] <histo> coolmanlg: That is your best bet if there is no linux support for it. Getting something like that in wine to work would be a little far fetched.
[13:16] <coolmanlg> huawei e303. cfhowlett: That's what I currently do. I just want the ease of doing everything from.
[13:16] <will0w> hey guys, i switched to ubuntu a while ago its awesome blown away with the scope and freedom! I want to set up a private network, server and developing environment looking for some advice
[13:17] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, but it does sound like it could be a fun side project to spend your vacation on!
[13:17] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, you might be asking just a bit too much of wine ...
[13:18] <Hawkerz> I literally just tried getting outlook working in wine
[13:18] <Hawkerz> even that crashed
[13:18] <Georgy> Hawkerz, there is no solution given ?
[13:19] <coolmanlg> histo: I can use the modem in ubuntu. infact that is what am using right now in Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:19] <Hawkerz> you're not even installing the same release,...
[13:19] <histo> coolmanlg: What do you mean a way to recharge credit?
[13:19] <Georgy> Well its the same problem ?
[13:19] <Hawkerz> Georgy, that is.
[13:19] <coolmanlg> Hawkerz: yea. My coding ability is limited to php and a bit of python.
[13:19] <histo> coolmanlg: I doubt that's controlled on a hardware level.
[13:19] <Deathlire> huawei..with a subscription from what provider?
[13:19] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, yeah, i realized that sounded as thought it was directed at you, but it wasn't
[13:20] <Georgy> Hawkerz, i think its just Asus :(
[13:20] <Hawkerz> histo, but its ability to connect to the internet is probably dependent upon having some system to tell it to do that
[13:20] <coolmanlg> histo: It's prepaid modem with subscripton from a provider.
[13:20] <Hawkerz> Georgy, what is the laptop you're working with?
[13:21] <histo> coolmanlg: So I don't understand why you need their software if it's prepaid
[13:21] <Deathlire> have you considere you also have to siable that *modem* to use as an emulated device since it's not going through loopback for some reason?
[13:21] <histo> coolmanlg: you pay them it works....
[13:21] <Deathlire> disable*
[13:22] <coolmanlg> histo:the modem usually come with windows app that you can use to buy subscription. Huawei has an app for Linux but all effort to get it to work has been futile.
[13:22] <Guest44549> Im trying to get a hang of ARP. Lets say I want to send a packet from x to y via router R. I got R's MAC-address through ARP-query, so an IP-packet is made to B, sent to R which in turn maces another LLF to y. But what will the ARP table on x say on the route to y after that?
[13:22] <histo> coolmanlg: Can you buy a subscription from the providers site?
[13:22] <Deathlire> you need the driver that windows uses to run the modem placed in your wine libs...preffereably a 32 bit one
[13:23] <histo> coolmanlg: Sounds like you have an XY problem
[13:23] <Deathlire> and i cannot spell right now :P
[13:23] <Hawkerz> Guest44549, I'm going to take a random guess and say there is a channel called #networking where you should have that discussion
[13:23] <coolmanlg> histo: What I currently do is to use Windows via Vbox to buy the credit. No, you can't buy from their site.
[13:24] <histo> coolmanlg: Perhaps switch providers
[13:24] <Deathlire> put the drivers for the usb modem into wine..and then restart it, start it up and then emulate the windows software
[13:24] <Guest44549> okay, Hawkerz. Will try that
[13:24] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, I still think it's going to make a really fun project, but I don't think you're going to finish this weekend
[13:25] <abetusk> exit
[13:25] <coolmanlg> Dealthlire: I will try it and see. Thanks.
[13:25] <abetusk> whoops, sorry
[13:25] <Deathlire> well was gonna help guest out..but if they are a guest..can't help em when they leave
[13:25] <coolmanlg> Deathlire: the driver may emulate the modem?
[13:25] <Deathlire> yeah Hawkerz it isn't something ya do over 10 minutes but, you probably would spend a good night on it
[13:25] <megdanov> someone familiar with audio driver issues and willing to help ? :)
[13:26] <Deathlire> holdon gotta check the meat
[13:26] <Hawkerz> megdanov, be more specific -- we have all heard of them, but I doubt many of us have written one
[13:26] <histo> !ask | megdanov
[13:27] <histo> megdanov: have you tried selecting a different output in the sound properties?
[13:28] <megdanov> srr, it's third time asking and didn't find help and now forgot to be speciffic
[13:28] <megdanov> laptop Toshiba Qosmio x770 . Sub is off
[13:28] <megdanov> the fron speaker work
[13:28] <megdanov> but the sub is not and cant find any driver :(
[13:28] <Hawkerz> did you try installing the driver?
[13:29] <megdanov> i can't find any appropriate driver to install. The speakers are working since installation but not the subwoofer(it's integrated)
[13:30] <Hawkerz> so the subwoofer expects sufficiently powered/amplified output fed through the speakers, yet it doesn't even connect directly to the source?
[13:30] <Hawkerz> my subwoofer works fine, and i definitely don't have any drivers for it
[13:31] <will0w> i found mono useful for creating the right environment to run windows software, you can emulate the .NET and runtime environment in ubuntu, windows progs run better in the right environment
[13:31] <Guest56538> hello
[13:31] <megdanov> it does not require any additional power source
[13:31] <Hawkerz> will0w, can I use mono to install outlook?
[13:31] <megdanov> its integrated in the laptop
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, greetings
[13:31] <megdanov> at the bottom
[13:31] <Hawkerz> oh
[13:31] <Guest56538> :)
[13:31] <Hawkerz> that makes more sense :p
[13:32] <Guest56538> is anyone good at ubuntu?
[13:32] <Hawkerz> i didn't know they put subwoofers you could actually hear anywhere on laptops
[13:32] <Hawkerz> what kind of laptop is it?
[13:32] <megdanov> Toshiba Qosmio X770
[13:32] <will0w> I should imagine it would increase your chances of getting it going, most windows software runs with .Net, my ubuntu at the moment seems to run almost any windows prog without problem not tried outlook but will try it now
[13:32] <Hawkerz> Guest56538, if you have a question please ask it
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest56538
[13:33] <Hawkerz> yeah, that.
[13:33] <will0w> mono has enabled me to have the basic windows software running in the background of ubuntu
[13:33] <will0w> wine program loader and mono
[13:34] <Hawkerz> megdanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/944864
[13:34] <Hawkerz> it's a known bug in alsa
[13:34] <Guest56538> ah sorry, all new to this. anyway i live in China and there's this stupid firewall thing; how can i configure my vpn so it punches through and i can finally watch youtube
[13:34] <exalt> hello why does my system crash on this command: sudo memdump > mem.raw
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, you vpn provider should supply that info
[13:35] <megdanov> It seems abandoned
[13:35] <megdanov> I published another one
[13:35] <megdanov> a guy tried to help but no luck
[13:36] <Guest56538> ah, how do i get to that info; like easy step by step instructions
[13:36] <Hawkerz> certainly it does not appear to be high on anyone's priority list
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, which vpn provider did you sign up with
[13:37] <will0w> Guest56538 there might be a tor bridge near you?
[13:37] <hojgaard> anyone know if there still is to be a big secret in raring that only will be known at release?
[13:37] <dannyjoris> hi, I set up Ubuntu Server as a VM in virtualbox, but I can't ping the IP. THe network settings are NAT & Host-Only. It's a fresh install so I assume I need to configure it. ANy idea how?
[13:37] <histo> Guest56538: Do you have a server you can ssh to?
[13:37] <megdanov> Thank you anyway. Hope soon there will be a solution so i don't have to boot away to win just to listen to music
[13:37] <Deathlire> i'm back somewhat for a bit, whats up
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, different providers, different processes ...
[13:38] <Guest56538> i dont know. :( ive just installed ubuntu sorry
[13:38] <cfhowlett> dannyjoris, outside of my area, but I bet #ubuntu-server might know.
[13:38] <dannyjoris> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, so you have NOT bought a vpn package then.  That's step one I guess.  The few free vpn providers are well known and quickly killed by the great firewall
[13:39] <Hawkerz> dannyjoris, you probably have to bind sshd locally
[13:39] <Hawkerz> and if you're also running sshd on the host, you probably want to put one of them on a different port
[13:40] <Hawkerz> then you can just ssh localhost
[13:40] <Deathlire> hmm somebody trying to use the free shell access with no output or otherwise firewalled output?
[13:41] <Guest56538> ah yes, i prob need to buy a vpn service i know i was using freegate on my windows system but it wasnt terribly good
[13:42] <Guest56538> nice country but a stupid ass GCF
[13:42] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, I've given up trying to get YT but there IS a free and easy FB workaround ...
[13:42] <Deathlire> if ya have a home comp not in use..just it as your personal vpn anywhere
[13:43] <jkkl> Is it true Ubuntu is less prone to viruses than Windows?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> jkkl, true
[13:43] <Deathlire> true enough jkkl
[13:44] <Deathlire> just make sure root has a good password or it will be just the same
[13:45] <Guest56538> FB walkaround? or which VPN would you suggest?
[13:45] <jkkl> cfhowlett: Deathlire: Well, I don't get viruses from your mom either. I'm protected. So please cease and desist your blabbering. Are you trying to convice me that not getting any viruses is a symbol of high quality of your choice of software? The fact that you're attributing that characteristic to Linux has already earned you a spot on my hate list. Besides, I can make my computer immune to viruses. Just watch. Pop! Did you see that? I
[13:45] <Guest56538> ...vpn provider
[13:45] <Deathlire> Nice, jkkl, you have taken the troll course. :P
[13:46] <Hawkerz> interesting
[13:46] <Hawkerz> I always advocate protection personally
[13:46] <Deathlire> hope they have a deadbolt eh..lol..reminds me of a Defcon
[13:46] <Guest56538> i think jkkl likes linux
[13:46] <jkkl> Guest56538: Why? Linux can't do nothing.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> jkkl, well that's quite original thinking you've got going there pardner!  Tell me, other than displaying your appalling lack of manners, why are you here?
[13:47] <Deathlire> linux does all the things you don't want to be into.
[13:47] <Guest56538> oh maybe not
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, wait 1
[13:48] <cfhowlett> jkkl, oh and you HATE me?  Then my day if fulfilled.
[13:48] <jkkl> cfhowlett: GOOD
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, see this  http://www.letskis.com/how-unblock-facebook-vietnam-china/
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, use this.  took about 30 seconds
[13:48] <cfhowlett> http://www.armabloggin.com/facehost.php
[13:49] <Deathlire> why don't you go chroot -R 777 yourself jkkl :P
[13:49] <Capprentice> hey anyone knows how can make a complete bootable system out of my installed system. actually i wana know how i can use remsatersys ?!
[13:51] <histo> Capprentice: yeap remastersys
[13:51] <histo> !remastersys | Capprentice
[13:51] <Capprentice> histo, how do u cross the 4gm limit ? i have a30 gb system..
[13:52] <histo> Capprentice: well what do you ahve that you are going to fit that on?
[13:53] <Guest56538> thanks...the letskis website is telling me of a XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state
[13:53] <Capprentice> histo,  i want to make a  complete back up of the whole system !
[13:53] <histo> !backup | Capprentice
[13:53] <Deathlire> rsync woot
[13:54] <histo> Deathlire: meh no compression
[13:54] <histo> but good utility
[13:55] <Deathlire> tried imaging?
[13:55] <histo> Capprentice: dd if=/dev/sdX | gzip -6 > somefile.img
[13:55] <lysy_> 123456
[13:55] <histo> Capprentice: you'll want to do that on an unmounted system.
[13:55] <Deathlire> unmount /dev/sd*
[13:57] <histo> Capprentice: also I would name it somefile.img.gz  so you remember it's gzipped
[13:57] <Deathlire> actually should have said sudo first..but used to being in root really
[13:58] <gustav_> So my steam stuff isn't working. Is this where I complain?
[13:59] <Hawkerz> depends on why it's not working
[13:59] <Hawkerz> but probably not
[13:59] <cfhowlett> gustav_, we don't fix steam ... valve does
[13:59] <Deathlire> not really..but probably in wine...I actualy have a working steam in Wine though
[13:59] <histo> gustav_: no complain to valve
[13:59] <gustav_> Valve doesn't support the Linux client.
[13:59] <Hawkerz> didn't they release it?
[13:59] <gustav_> So no use complaining to them.
[13:59] <histo> gustav_: there is a support section right on their site
[13:59] <Deathlire> I haven't even tried the nix version..lol
[14:00] <gustav_> I've e-mailed them two times or more and they've responded, both times, with that they don't support the Linux client.
[14:00] <Guest56538> i think you should send Valve a strongly worded email
[14:00] <gustav_> I sort of did.
[14:00] <Guest56538> oh yea
[14:00] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:00] <Deathlire> well they told you exactly what they mean..use a windows based one and wine it
[14:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, if you can provide error messages it's possible we can help
[14:00] <histo> gustav_: Pleas go to the support site
[14:00] <gustav_> histo: It's not a known problem I don't think.
[14:01] <histo> gustav_: you won't know if you don't check
[14:01] <Deathlire> hmm what is your problem?
[14:01] <gustav_> It's something optirun/bumblebee.
[14:01] <Hawkerz> ah
[14:01] <Guest56538> what game do you want to play on steam?
[14:01] <Hawkerz> are you optirun'ing steam?
[14:01] <gustav_> I get an X11-error.
[14:01] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:02] <gustav_> And then when I launch the game (tried two different ones) it reports some kind of X11-error.
[14:02] <Deathlire> what game though?
[14:02] <Hawkerz> gustav_, a copy of the error message would be very useful
[14:02] <Hawkerz> gustav_, use ubuntu's pastebin service -- I can't remember the URL but hmmm
[14:02] <Hawkerz> !paste
[14:03] <Georgy> Hawkerz
[14:03] <Hawkerz> yep?
[14:03] <Georgy> Should i get myself Linux Mint, cause i cant get ubuntu ?
[14:04] <Deathlire> mint kinda sucks..its
[14:04] <Hawkerz> I'm still not clear on what the issue is with ubuntu.  You have an installation DVD correct?
[14:04] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601935/ This is for Team Fortress 2.
[14:04] <Georgy> yes
[14:04] <Georgy> it just my pc
[14:04] <Hawkerz> put it in the drive, moved your cd/dvdrom drive to the top of the boot order?
[14:04] <Guest56538> cool game
[14:04] <Hawkerz> and did you wind up in ubuntu?
[14:05] <Georgy> yes
[14:05] <Georgy> i get the instalation meny
[14:05] <gustav_> TF2 used to work great but when I upgraded it installed some extra package. That's my suspect but I can't remember it's name.
[14:05] <Hawkerz> okay, then what happened?
[14:05] <Georgy> but when i choose anyhting
[14:05] <Georgy> fomr the menu, i get a blac kscreen with white dash
[14:05] <Georgy> on top
[14:05] <Hawkerz> gustav_, that error message is worthlessly vague
[14:05] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I agree.
[14:05] <Hawkerz> Georgy, which menu?
[14:06] <Guest56538> i love kebab
[14:06] <Deathlire> hmm TF2, actually got a buddy that does TF2 server recoding..and we both use Wine emulating for them, it does pretty well if you have eerything installed
[14:06] <gustav_> Will apt-get purge steam remove all the packages it uses?
[14:06] <gustav_> Hmm.
[14:06] <Georgy> the installation menu
[14:06] <Georgy> when i start up pc
[14:06] <Georgy> with live cd
[14:07] <Hawkerz> gustav_, anything in ~/.xsession-errors? or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[14:07] <Deathlire> it is probably an X server thats not really compatible with your setup..least I have found with my older systems anyways..is it an older system?
[14:07] <jammsen> hi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.
[14:07] <Hawkerz> gustav_, if you pastebin your /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf it would be a good place to start from
[14:07] <gustav_> Hawkerz: BadWindow blabla.
[14:07] <Georgy> Hawkerz, you got ubuntu yourself ?
[14:07] <Hawkerz> yep
[14:08] <Georgy> 12.10 ?
[14:08] <Hawkerz> on every computer I use in fact
[14:08] <Hawkerz> ah, no
[14:08] <Georgy> wich version ?
[14:08] <Hawkerz> I stick to long term support releases generally
[14:08] <Hawkerz> so 12.04
[14:08] <Georgy> Where can i find the 12.04 ?
[14:09] <Hawkerz> Georgy, does it boot you into an ubuntu live system? or does it take you to something like this http://andrewtheart.tripod.com/linux/Images/Ubuntu-InstallMenu.jpg
[14:09] <Deathlire> on ubuntu.org
[14:09] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601945/ It's standard, I think.
[14:09] <Georgy> last one
[14:09] <Hawkerz> gustav_, did you just install bumblebee + optirun?
[14:09] <Georgy> but more modern version
[14:09] <cfhowlett> www.ubuntu.com
[14:09] <Georgy> with different background
[14:10] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Ehm... optirun is in bumblebee, I think...
[14:10] <Hawkerz> Georgy, so you choose 'install ubuntu' and it goes to a black screen?
[14:10] <Georgy> yes
[14:10] <Georgy> and i tried
[14:10] <Hawkerz> gustav_, do you have primus installed?
[14:10] <Georgy> nomodeset
[14:10] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep? It matters?
[14:10] <Deathlire> everything matters :P brb
[14:10] <Hawkerz> Georgy, did you try the 'try ubuntu' option?
[14:11] <Georgy> yes
[14:11] <Georgy> try ubuntu without installing
[14:11] <Hawkerz> and had the same experience?
[14:11] <Georgy> yes
[14:12] <Hawkerz> interesting....can you tell me the model of the laptop you're on?
[14:12] <gustav_> primusrun is broken on this machine.
[14:12] <Georgy> Asus X71SL
[14:12] <Georgy> GeForce 9300M GS
[14:12] <Georgy> 2.00 ghz
[14:12] <Georgy> 3gb ram
[14:12] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I believe you need Bridge=auto in the optirun section
[14:13] <Hawkerz> at least if you have the latest version...
[14:14] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Ok. Do I restart bumblebee somehow...?
[14:14] <Hawkerz> sudo service bumblebeed restart
[14:14] <gustav_> Oops. HoN died. :>
[14:14] <Hawkerz> HoN? game?
[14:14] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:14] <Georgy> Hawkerz, any ideas ?
[14:15] <Hawkerz> what machine are you running? I have the same exact configuration as you
[14:15] <Hawkerz> Georgy, probably, I'm looking
[14:15] <gustav_> A laptop.
[14:15] <Hawkerz> gustav_, make and model would be particularly useful
[14:15] <Georgy> HAwkerz Thanks :D
[14:15] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Same problem. Ok. Clevo P150EM.
[14:15] <Hawkerz> hmmk. lets see
[14:16] <gustav_> I think it's a configuration problem with Steam. Wrong packages.
[14:16] <Hawkerz> if you want to try reinstalling steam that's certainly an option
[14:16] <jammsen> hi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.
[14:17] <Hawkerz> it could easily be any number of fairly common problems with the nvidia/bumblebee setup
[14:17] <gustav_> Hawkerz: What's the correct way? apt-get purge steam? I think there's some i386 version installed as well...
[14:17] <gustav_> Ah. :/
[14:17] <Hawkerz> if you do dpkg -l | grep steam
[14:17] <Hawkerz> it will show you all of the isntalled packages
[14:18] <GranoSalis> hi
[14:18] <Hawkerz> Georgy, here is one suggestion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814221
[14:18] <Hawkerz> (last post)
[14:18] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, greetings
[14:19] <Deathlire> jammsen : your wine isn't setup correctly is all, Last time iused teamviewer it was 7+ so it's probably wine related try an 'apt-get update wine'
[14:20] <Deathlire> in terminal, that is.
[14:20] <Georgy> Hawkerz, what am i supposed to do with the codes :( ?
[14:21] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett:  thanks
[14:21] <Georgy> Allright i got solution
[14:21] <Georgy> let me try
[14:21] <Georgy> brb
[14:21] <Hawkerz> Georgy, when your system is first booting up, get into the bios (f2 or something)
[14:21] <GranoSalis> could someone help me with Firefox?
[14:21] <Hawkerz> 3 minutes of googling for that one
[14:21] <Deathlire> yeah download chromium
[14:22] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, details???
[14:22] <Hawkerz> gustav_, do you have PMMethod defined in the [driver-nvidia] section of your bumblebee.conf?
[14:22] <GranoSalis> Deathlire: i got used to FF
[14:22] <Deathlire> well whats the problem with it?
[14:22] <gustav_> Hawkerz: auto.
[14:23] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett: how do i change the "icon's" of firefox?
[14:23] <GranoSalis> to look more like the ones in windows
[14:23] <joakimw> Hey guys. I'm having this weird problem with my keyboard layout. After boot its always American English, even though the only language I have added is Danish. If i add any other language and remove it, its turned to Danish. Any way I can make sure it's defaulted to Danish when I boot? Ubuntu 12.10
[14:23] <jammsen> Deathlire: i have done that wine version 1.4.1
[14:23] <jammsen> nothing helped
[14:23] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, I think you want to add a windows "theme" from firefox addons ...
[14:23] <Deathlire> well, I'd suggest you use windows, if you want windows. but if you want to change some icons usually a right click on an icon can help you
[14:23] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and you are a member of the bumblebee group? from a command prompt run 'groups'
[14:24] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep.
[14:24] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett:  thanks and heres a bigger problem,when i go to ,lets say youtube,and want to use the search bar i dont see the letters i type
[14:24] <Deathlire> jammsen : also no problems hen it installed?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, see "windows classic for firefox 18.0.0"
[14:25] <GranoSalis> I'm using FF Nightly
[14:25] <jammsen> Deathlire: its all up-to-date
[14:25] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, you're on unity I take it?
[14:25] <jammsen> but when you would connect from windows, its white
[14:25] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett: nope im on Debian with Awesome
[14:26] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you have updated all of this since Bumblebee 3.1 was released?
[14:26] <Deathlire> TV doesn't play well with viewing the unix client very well, albeit it usually does a good job, but remember it's all beta..it's main focus is helping windows users
[14:26] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Updated what?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, never used debian but I think if you change your desktop environment or display themes ...
[14:27] <Hawkerz> bumblebee/primus
[14:27] <Guest56538> ok guys i gtg
[14:27] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I think it's the only version I've ever used.
[14:27] <hellier> Hey, does anyone know how to get soundblaster wirelessheaders to connect through bluetooth? :|
[14:27] <Hawkerz> gustav_, run 'bumblebeed --version' and tell me what version you're on
[14:27] <hellier> wireless head phones*
[14:28] <gustav_> 3.1
[14:28] <Hawkerz> okay...is this a new installation for you?
[14:28] <Fuzzles> gustav_, what version
[14:28] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Never reinstalled, not new as in new. Maybe 6 months.
[14:29] <Hawkerz> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/bumblebee-31-released-with-primus.html <- i'd probably reinstall from the ppa following those instructions
[14:29] <gustav_> Fuzzles: 3.1.
[14:29] <gustav_> Oh boy. -.-" Headache.
[14:29] <oldude67> anyone got a reason why when installing samba4 and its deps. does my ubuntu 12.10 starts crashing before i even use it?
[14:30] <Hawkerz> it won't be too bad, feel free to pm if you want help
[14:30] <gustav_> Primus has been buggy, I don't like it.
[14:30] <Hawkerz> I literally just reinstalled mine today
[14:30] <Hawkerz> and it works much better
[14:30] <gustav_> I got flickering.
[14:30] <Deathlire> ahh samba.. apt-get update samba*
[14:30] <gustav_> Yes, it's faster, but.
[14:30] <Hawkerz> hmm, before we go crazy on this one though, what if you run steam without optirun?
[14:30] <calwig> hi, i have a 20Gb free partition, between 2 other existing ext2 partitions, where linux resides. All ok, except that Im installing Windows in that free partition, and the setup wont let me
[14:31] <calwig> How can I move the 20Gb out of the center of the hard drive and on to the BEG or END of the drive? Gparted will only allow resize, not move
[14:31] <priyal> Hi all. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and am not able connect to internet vi lan cable.. It always shows me up: "Cable unplugged"
[14:31] <Hawkerz> calwig, the only way to re-order partitions is to rewrite the partition table
[14:32] <priyal> Please help and guide, am badly stuck here
[14:32] <priyal> I tried to follow up this documentation : http://askubuntu.com/questions/161482/wired-connection-not-working-ubuntu-12-04
[14:32] <priyal> But it too didn't help
[14:32] <Deathlire> try rebooting a few times til it lets you calwig ..or use an old 16/32 bit program like nortons partition magic..or just use the good ol parted or gparted. part magic will move your small partition. but it's better to back it up
[14:32] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Works. I remember, but TF2 is too slow to play.
[14:32] <Hawkerz> yeah, figures
[14:33] <gustav_> You insulting my Intel GPU? :O
[14:33] <Deathlire> i'll insult an intel gpu :P
[14:33] <Hawkerz> is it the xxxx 4000 or whatever ?
[14:33] <Hawkerz> if so, yes
[14:33] <gustav_> xD
[14:33] <gustav_> Yeah.
[14:33] <Deathlire> i insult my own gpu..an radeon 6530hd
[14:34] <calwig> Hawkerz, oh, rewrite partition tables, how?
[14:35] <priyal> pleAse help !
[14:35] <gustav_> Probably the 3.1 update that broke everything for me.
[14:35] <priyal>  I am not able to figure out the problem
[14:36] <Hawkerz> best bet would be to create an image of the partition on the outer part of the drive, then write it to be sequentially after the other partition so you are not sandwiching windows
[14:36] <Hawkerz> though I'm not actually certain you can write windows anywhere but 1st, all my dual boot systems have been that way
[14:36] <Hawkerz> gustav_, it's likely, but it's salvageable if you want to make it work
[14:37] <calwig> Hawkerz, interesting
[14:37] <six2> dern new 8Mb cable is suckin
[14:37] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I'm interested in the output of sudo lshw -c display
[14:38] <Sebus> Hello. I need some help - trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on my crappy asus a6rp with radeon graphics card and upgraded t2250 cpu - it just crash with random characters on boot or even if it boots up from cd/pendrive to gui, screen starts blinking after several minutes no matter if external screen is connected. how to force lower res on gui boot?
[14:38] <Hawkerz> what is with the asus problems today :/
[14:38] <cfhowlett> Sebus, did you 1. verify the iso with md5sum and 2. check for disk errors at boot?
[14:39] <Deathlire> asus is an old problem :P
[14:39] <Sebus> cfhowlett: before I used win9x/xp/7 multiboot
[14:39] <Sebus> memtest - no errors
[14:39] <Sebus> hdat2 - no errors
[14:39] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/
[14:39] <Sebus> and yes, images were verified
[14:40] <Hawkerz> Sebus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814221 <- possibly
[14:40] <oldude67> well as soon as i uninstall samba4 system stops crashing.
[14:40] <Hawkerz> also did you try booting with nomodeset enabled
[14:40] <calwig> Deathlire, so somehow rebooting a few times will allow Vista to install?
[14:40] <Hawkerz> calwig, no, Deathlire is confusing windows and linux
[14:40] <Sebus> Hawkerz: I'll try that, now i'm sitting on other terminal machine, hard to use links
[14:41] <Deathlire> well sometimes it does, for win7 ultimate..not sure about vista..
[14:42] <Deathlire> actually had that problem the other day when someone refused to format their c: drive ..t didn't want to do anything but finally it did..and i told them good luck lol..
[14:42] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you have nearly the same configuration of hardware as me
[14:42] <Hawkerz> I will paste my configuration
[14:43] <avi143> Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..
[14:44] <Deathlire> it's always good to do a really nice 24 hour format of your drives before installing any Os..of course normal formatting does well, but doesn't get to all the problem areas (ex. dban boot n nuke)
[14:44] <gustav_> Hawkerz: What should I do now exactly? Reinstall bumblebee? That can go horribly wrong. xC
[14:44] <Hawkerz> nah, give me a second and I'll give you a good set of instructions
[14:45] <gustav_> Alrighty.
[14:46] <calwig> i see
[14:47] <Hawkerz> gustav_, one thing that'd be helpful would be to know which ppa's you have enabled
[14:48] <avi143> (avi143) Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..2
[14:48] <Deathlire> linux.org
[14:49] <compdoc> google
[14:49] <Deathlire> or man pages within to learn bash
[14:49] <Deathlire> yep google is your friend :P
[14:49] <Mcmxc> man pages is difficult to read..
[14:50] <kurteknikk> Hi, anybody knows of any issue with  logrotate and mysql ? My issue is that the the user exists and it has the correct password but i still get: error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '
[14:50] <kurteknikk> run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1
[14:50] <gustav_> Hawkerz: source.list.d dir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602060/
[14:50] <Hawkerz> oh
[14:50] <Hawkerz> xorg edgers eh? did you install the experimental nvidia driver?
[14:51] <Deathlire> do 92.
[14:51] <gustav_> Hm, I don't think so... I'm using 313...something.
[14:51] <Deathlire> if your using an intel gpu..try the old version it's like 9x something
[14:51] <avi143> Linux.org is aweaome
[14:52] <gustav_> 313.09.
[14:52] <avi143> Thanku
[14:52] <Hawkerz> gustav_, that's certainly a potential issue, since the driver may be called something else when it runs
[14:52] <gustav_> Deathlire: Me? It doesn't support my GPU, I think.
[14:52] <gustav_> Hawkerz: o_O
[14:52] <Deathlire> i never could get my other comp with an intel to use the experimental driver
[14:53] <gustav_> I don't know how anything of this works.
[14:54] <Deathlire> but that was on an older version of Xorg and even ubuntu actually..it just seemed like anything newer would kill it no matter the distro was a P4 based
[14:54] <Deathlire> was like an Intel 85* based gpu or 87*
[14:54] <Hawkerz> gustav_, run:  'vblank_mode=0 optirun glxspheres' -- let it run for a few seconds, kill the window it ambushes you with, and pastebin the output of the run as well as the output of 'dmesg | grep -i nvidia'
[14:55] <Hawkerz> (but the dmesg output only is useful after you do the optirun'
[14:55] <Deathlire> i'll stay out of this convo seems Hawkerz has it down..
[14:56] <gustav_> It looks good.
[14:56] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602076/
[14:57] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and my only other question is whether you had primus installed before -- if you installed 6 months ago, you likely did have primus installed... the output of apt-cache showpkg primus
[14:58] <Hawkerz> your card puts mine to shame
[14:58] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602080/ Yep.
[14:58] <Hawkerz> i guess i should upgrade my drivers
[14:59] <gustav_> I got 304 with primusrun, but primusrun doesn't seem to work in practice with real applications.
[15:00] <gustav_> It flickers.
[15:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I had the exact same setup and I upgraded today
[15:00] <gustav_> Ok...
[15:00] <gustav_> And your steam works?
[15:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, sudo apt-get purge primus && sudo ppa-purge ppa:zhurikhin/primus
[15:00] <gustav_> :O
[15:00] <Hawkerz> you may need an apt-get update somewhere in there
[15:01] <gustav_> Done.
[15:01] <gustav_> Trying optirun steam.
[15:02] <gustav_> Same problem.
[15:02] <Hawkerz> technically after you do the purge, you should sudo apt-get install primus primus-libs-ia32:i386
[15:03] <gustav_> Ok.
[15:03] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you just deleted primus, reinstalled it, and now need to set your config properly
[15:03] <alainus> how do i run a program from a console without it outputting to it? I'm using "$ commandname &" right now... but it's not exactly it (it still outputs when opened/closed, and opens a second window of the program)
[15:04] <Deathlire> try && if on a shell?
[15:05] <POVaddct> alainus: you want the console output of the command suppressed? redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null: "$ commandname >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[15:06] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and then use something like this for config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602111/
[15:06] <Vegombrei> hi .. currently on ntfs partition windows 7 gonna install ubuntu, so correct me if im wrong, i can simply download the 64bit ubuntu and install and allocate the space when it comes up etc, does it also do the bootloader and give me the option to boot from windows?
[15:07] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, yes, that is all handled automatically
[15:07] <Hawkerz> the modern ubuntu installation requires almost no work at all (unless you are on an asus laptop apparently)
[15:07] <Deathlire> nice how the new versions use native ntfs like that..
[15:07] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: so i dont have to get that windows installer one right?
[15:07] <Hawkerz> i would strongly advise against using wubi
[15:07] <Loki_> Greetings.
[15:08] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i cant get the one i can put on a usb and install
[15:08] <bau-> hi all, I have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 64bit but can't burn it on a 700mb (80 min) cd from windows 7, it says it's not enough space, why?
[15:08] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, but you can get an iso and burn it, no?
[15:08] <Loki_> How can I choose between environments in text mode?
[15:08] <Deathlire> in all my time..always mattered when ya installed any os, and had to format or delete a partition just to use things
[15:09] <Hawkerz> Loki_, which environments?
[15:09] <Hawkerz> bau-, are you attempting to burn it as a disk image?
[15:09] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: frighin grandma used up all the blank dvds its too cold to venture out dude
[15:09] <Loki_> For example: startx KDE -  startx gnome
[15:09] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, so you have no dvd's and you have no usb sticks?
[15:09] <bau-> Hawkerz, yes, I'm using cd burner xp and burning as a disk image
[15:09] <Deathlire> anybody know if enlightenment is ever being updated? i'm gonna guess no
[15:10] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i have plenty of usb sticks
[15:10] <Hawkerz> Loki_, why are you trying to start x window servers from the console?
[15:10] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, so you can install from there right?
[15:10] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Later I have installed ubuntu desktop in my backtrack, without see it, My O.S. became ubuntu LL.
[15:11] <Loki_> Hawkerz: My system is backtrack.. based on ubuntu..
[15:11] <Loki_> look my earlier message please...
[15:11] <Deathlire> backtrack is based on debian eh..but uses some thngs from ubu
[15:11] <Hawkerz> ah...and you want to have control over which desktop environment starts up
[15:11] <Deathlire> i know quite a bit about bt eh
[15:11] <Hawkerz> when I had to worry about that I just threw it in .xinitrc I think
[15:11] <Laiquendi> Guys, anybody can answer me some nooby questions about ubuntu for smartphones?
[15:12] <Hawkerz> unlikely
[15:12] <Hawkerz> i'm not even sure if its out yet?
[15:12] <Laiquendi> yeah this is one of those questions...
[15:12] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: yeah but back to my question, i donno what to download ... apparently there are three of them ... one that is a windows installer one thats the standard (my preference) and then theres this one LTS or something .... which do i download onto my usb stick?
[15:12] <Laiquendi> i can't get straight answer from the internet
[15:12] <Deathlire> ubuntu isn't out for arm completely..you can do some mods to use it on a droid though
[15:13] <xangua> !phone | Laiquendi
[15:13] <Laiquendi> thanks
[15:13] <Deathlire> depends on your phones total memory and cpu power though
[15:13] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, there are a couple of options -- you have really two different releases to choose from -- 12.04 which is long term support, and 12.10 which includes a bit more on the feature side but imo is also a bit buggier
[15:13] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Can you, please, tell me how can I choose between KDE and Gnome in the text mode?
[15:13] <IvelfanFr> Bonjour/Hello
[15:14] <Loki_> Or anybody? How can I choose between environments in text mode?
[15:14] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, after you figure that out, you have 3 download options -- Wubi installer, CD/DVD, or USB.
[15:14] <Deathlire> it's a passion of mine to flash the androids and such..can even run a version of windows CE on them
[15:15] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, but Wubi is not a 'real' ubuntu install for all intents and purposes.  It is ridiculously easy to use, but it isn't so easy to move your stuff into a proper installation if you ever decide you're sick of being tied to windows
[15:15] <IvelfanFr> I have a problem with my new computer. When I start my computer on Ubuntu 12.04, when I launch Firefox, all software have a freeze.
[15:15] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: ok so im downloading 12.10, ill install it from usb, will it gimme the option to boot from windows when i need windows ,
[15:15] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, of course installing ubuntu to the MBR has it's own challenges if you decide later you want to remove it and keep windows
[15:16] <Hawkerz> yes, it will give you a selection menu and i think 10 seconds by default to navigate (probably will boot linux by default unless you change it)
[15:16] <Deathlire> if you install it..grub should automatically place it within the boot menu..if not you can run a command and make it work
[15:16] <Hawkerz> grub will do it, for sure
[15:16] <Deathlire> don't tell me they replaced grub recently?
[15:17] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: ok great, i prefer ubuntu .. but i have certain stuff like cameras etc that have windows software so occasionally i need windows
[15:17] <Hawkerz> well grub2...works pretty well
[15:17] <ferronica> Need help regarding NDISWrapper with WG311 V3 WLAN
[15:17] <billkd> Deathlire: They use grub2 at least on my raring box.
[15:17] <Deathlire> well Vegombrei : in console type 'apt-get install wine*'
[15:17] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, okay, so just um, don't wipe your ubuntu partition later, or, not without rebuilding the windows master boot record
[15:17] <Hawkerz> meh
[15:17] <Hawkerz> wine isn't nearly that good
[15:17] <billkd> ferronica: Are you sure you need ndiswrapper? Try native drivers first.
[15:17] <IvelfanFr> Someone can help me, I don't why Firefox have a freeze.
[15:17] <Deathlire> well grub21 is stil grub..a lil different but still uses the same conf at least
[15:18] <Hawkerz> for real time streaming video i wouldn't want to be fighting with wine
[15:18] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, enlightenment was updated btw
[15:18] <Hawkerz> this year
[15:18] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i understand
[15:18] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Hello - oo
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, for Netgear WG311V3
[15:18] <Hawkerz> Loki_, hi, I don't know, I don't use gnome or kde anymore and I'm not sure if they are invoked the same way
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 34bit
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:19] <Deathlire> haha nice..i used to use enlightenment back when i had like mandrake 7 installed many years ago :P
[15:19] <Hawkerz> please don't spam, ferronica
[15:19] <Hawkerz> try jockey-gtk for proprietary drivers
[15:19] <ferronica> Hawkerz, Oh Sorry
[15:19] <Deathlire> if you can't get a driver for it..you can actually modprobe it
[15:20] <Hawkerz> ferronica, it that is -- 'additional drivers'
[15:20] <Deathlire> should be able to anyways..i always had to with my pci trendnet for some reason
[15:20] <ferronica> Deathlire, how im new in linux
[15:20] <Hawkerz> you can go to the dash and look for it or I believe it's in system settings as well
[15:20] <ferronica> Hawkerz, no
[15:20] <Hawkerz> just click on the top left button on the launcher and type 'additional drivers' ...
[15:20] <Hawkerz> is this for a network card or a router?
[15:21] <ferronica> Hawkerz, For WLAN Card Driver WG311 V3
[15:21] <Deathlire> if your new to linux then i'd suggest heeding to Hawkerz suggestions..and if it just won't work i may have a fix
[15:21] <billkd> ferronica: Any reason for using an LTS? They are usually made for large scale deployments not end users. Try upgrading to 12.10.
[15:21] <Deathlire> uhh cause its long term Support...
[15:21] <ferronica> billkd, same problem with 12.10
[15:22] <Hawkerz> eh, billkd, would you give me the same advice? can you promise it won't be, in point of fact, signing me up for an afternoon of recovery?
[15:22] <ferronica> Deathlire, yes
[15:22] <billkd> ferronica: When you installe did you check the "install nonfree software" box?
[15:22] <billkd> ferronica: I think that includes some wifi drivers
[15:22] <ferronica> billkd, yes i did
[15:22] <Hawkerz> gustav_, any luck?
[15:22] <billkd> What is the manufacturer and model number of your wireless device?
[15:23] <Hawkerz> ferronica, more information about your system would be helpful -- sudo lshw -c net
[15:23] <Deathlire> I'm gonna take a guess and say this is an older belkin wifi stick?
[15:23] <ferronica> billkd, right now im using NDISWrapper and WLAN working fine for now if i reboot again it wont work
[15:23] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Testing things. Steam TF2 & Dwarfs F2P works great with primusrun.
[15:23] <Hawkerz> post the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:23] <Hawkerz> sweet
[15:23] <Deathlire> ahh you need a script then to work on booting then
[15:23] <billkd> ferronica: Do you have to run a command or something to keep it working? Never used ndiswrapper so wouldn't know.
[15:23] <gustav_> No flickering in Ho
[15:23] <Deathlire> that way you don't have to type it all back out
[15:23] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I have not actually tried combining optirun with the new primus bridge thing
[15:23] <gustav_> in HoN, yet.
[15:24] <Hawkerz> but i'm glad it works!
[15:24] <ferronica> billkd, just downloaded NDIS from Software center
[15:24] <Deathlire> I've used ndiswrapper plenty it worked well but i needed to have it cron'ed though
[15:24] <Hawkerz> ferronica, did you configure it from the command line or did you do it from a gui
[15:24] <Deathlire> brb i'll look up my old info for my driver..it should be almost the same for you
[15:24] <ferronica> if you know and want to check config take teamviewer
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, From GUI
[15:25] <gustav_> Hawkerz: This is glxspheres, prepare to weep. :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602173/
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, Im new in Linux world
[15:25] <Hawkerz> !!!!!
[15:25] <Deathlire> uhmm..how did you do anything with ndiswrapper from gui? ok...
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, take TeamViewer
[15:25] <Hawkerz> ferronica, no worries
[15:25] <Hawkerz> i'll find what you need
[15:25] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, there's some gui client, i could never figure it out
[15:25] <gustav_> I don't think it's max, even. Because there is some pesky energy saving thing that's throttling the CPU.
[15:25] <Deathlire> holdon a sec..brb..i'll give you the info to keep it working from the way it is.
[15:26] <IvelfanFr> All my screen freeze when i launch firefox >.<
[15:26] <Deathlire> the gui client doesn't do it right is all i'm sayin from the wrapper
[15:26] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I'm trying to change bridge...
[15:27] <Hawkerz> 203.466722 frames/sec - 227.068862 Mpixels/sec <- when I run it properly
[15:27] <Hawkerz> I'm not even sure what the bridge options are
[15:27] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Not bad.
[15:28] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I thought primusrun was an option. It was not.
[15:28] <Hawkerz> ferronica, this might be helpful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76313/how-to-keep-ndiswrapper-configuration-after-reboot
[15:28] <Hawkerz> here, the correct syntax is apparently this:
[15:28] <Deathlire> hmm actually all i have are drivers for it..and a bunch of other things but not the text explaining how to do it anymore..and no the drivers aren't for your card..hmm
[15:29] <Hawkerz> gustav_, hawk@hurin ~ » optirun -b primus glxspheres
[15:29] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Works.
[15:29] <Hawkerz> though when you are testing from a vte you should run it with vblank_mode=0
[15:30] <gustav_> vblank_mode can be set to default to 0, I think.
[15:30] <Deathlire> I went and bought a card that would run native with linux the good ol rt2500 or linksys wrt54gusb
[15:30] <gustav_> TF 2 lags if it's not 0.
[15:30] <holmesc> hi
[15:31] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Thanks A LOT for helping me, though. I have had a hard time getting this to work, getting the thumb out of the behind so to speak. So thanks.
[15:32] <Hawkerz> gustav_, trust me, having spent literally full days trying to get graphics working in the past, I am always happy to help if I can
[15:32] <gustav_> Hawkerz: :)
[15:32] <Hawkerz> fortunately for you I have the same exact hardware configuration and literally just finished doing the same exact thing
[15:32] <gustav_> Bumblebee is a new bag for me.
[15:32] <gustav_> xD
[15:32] <Hawkerz> I was definitely unimpressed with primusrun as a replacement for optirun before but this configuration seems to do its job
[15:33] <Deathlire> gpu is a pain sometimes..spent many nights myself a bit back especially when they didn't have total support for my cards..
[15:33] <gustav_> Hawkerz: ...why? You just have to change the command, right? Firefox is the only thing I have configured (in WindowMaker) to launch with optirun.
[15:35] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I think primusrun was not being switched properly or something...I tried to run firefox and my computer just overheated all the time
[15:35] <Hawkerz> and ran slow...but again, these things are so kind of arcane and mystical that who knows what the reason was
[15:36] <Hawkerz> anyway, as far as I'm concerned it's a miracle that this is the problem I have now...I had quite a struggle with a dell mini 10 and the GMA500/Poulsbo card
[15:36] <Deathlire> get a desktop :P
[15:36] <Deathlire> lol
[15:37] <m4rtins> Hello! I'm new to Ubuntu and have a problem. The wifi seems much slower and a bit more instable on Ubuntu 12.10 than on macosx, i have a dual-boot install on my macbook air.
[15:37] <Deathlire> if ya got a laptop don't expect total control..or some pentesting with bt
[15:37] <NachoPoncho> Hey, I've been trying to get a straight answer from Google to no avail, but does Ubuntu for Android effectively run all Ubuntu apps *without* docking?
[15:38] <Deathlire> Sorry, I can't help with mac/apple probs..never will use one eh
[15:38] <NachoPoncho> ^
[15:39] <Deathlire> NachoPoncho depends on your cpu and ram really when it comes to android..what apps do you want to run..really?
[15:40] <NachoPoncho> I was wondering if ubuntu for android allowed mobile access to the repos for the respective architecture
[15:40] <NachoPoncho> For example, would I be able to use the ARM port of Gimp etc. without docking?
[15:40] <Deathlire> I'm sure it would, but I'd consider it being a bit slower on upgrading since it''s using the ARM arch
[15:40] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, I have a desktop -- several
[15:41] <whoami> any free VPS..?
[15:41] <NachoPoncho> I'm trying to decide if I want to wait for the Ubuntu phone or settle for and Android with Ubuntu running on it
[15:41] <Hawkerz> yes
[15:41] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Exactly. I just gave up. I tried asking the actual primus people and they just naaw, there's no problem.
[15:41] <Deathlire> why would ya use gimp persay on an android eh?
[15:41] <Hawkerz> whoami, you can have all the free VPS you want, you just need to supply the hardware and configure it with the free software the ubuntu community supplies you with
[15:41] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602224/
[15:41] <llutz> !phone | NachoPoncho
[15:41] <Hawkerz> seems to be what it's supposed to look like
[15:42] <whoami> ok thanks
[15:42] <Hawkerz> I guess the drivers have gotten that much better since 3.04...could be worth pursuing
[15:42] <NachoPoncho> The Gimp was just an example, but I currently have a Nokia N900
[15:42] <gustav_> Hawkerz: You have a bit too close to my performance for sanity. I have the top-of-the-line 680M.
[15:42] <Deathlire> the only real application for androids so far seems to be modding droids to use ubu running backtrack so far...with very limited support
[15:43] <NachoPoncho> I like it because of the amount of freedom I have to mess with my phone, although Nokia stopped supporting it
[15:43] <Hawkerz> sure, I can match you when I'm only running xchat and a web browser and neither of them on my nvidia card :p
[15:43] <Deathlire> the N900 is actually perfect for ubu..from what i've read
[15:43] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Sure hope so! :P
[15:43] <NachoPoncho> I figure it's time for a new phone, and I was looking into Ubuntu for phones, since I use Lubuntu on my laptop
[15:44] <NachoPoncho> The N900 only overclocks it's single core to around 1150 Mhz :c
[15:44] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602230/
[15:44] <gustav_> Hawkerz: OMG! I see your password! jk, jk.
[15:45] <Deathlire> they are great for say wardriving thats about it..not sure on actual uhmm say GiMP type stuff
[15:45] <NachoPoncho> EasyDebian runs nicely in chroot, though. And it can use Gimp/OpenOffice, so I bet Ubuntu touch could
[15:45] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Is that clock really true? 33 MHz?
[15:45] <jigal> hi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping 8.8.8.8 any idea's?
[15:45] <Hawkerz> no idea gustav
[15:45] <NachoPoncho> N900s? They're great for everything!! haha
[15:46] <Deathlire> well who in their right mind would want to use a paint prog on a small screen? :P
[15:46] <zimzum77> wht happening, I'm looking  for a bandwidth eq for my ubuntu and sugg. ??
[15:46] <NachoPoncho> I haven't heard the term "wardriving" in aeons, though. That made me smile.
[15:46] <NachoPoncho> True. I can't make much out of Gimp on even bigger screens.
[15:46] <Deathlire> i still do some WD'ing NachoPoncho ..lol
[15:46] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/ <- that was yours, also shows 33mhz
[15:47] <NachoPoncho> but there are some apps that I like that aren't usually available in standard repos.
[15:47] <Deathlire> ever heard of wget and make? :P
[15:47] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep, I know. Aren't these cards PCI Express? Doesn't matter much but I hate false data.
[15:47] <NachoPoncho> Deathlire: lol
[15:48] <levo>  i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?
[15:48] <levo>  i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> Yeah. I just mean: Android may have Angry birds, and apps for Pandora
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> but does it have wireshark, nmap, gnu userland, etc?
[15:48] <Deathlire> levo..read up on UnrealIRCd if your going to use or host one..since your probably using that.
[15:48] <Hawkerz> gustav_, well, the kernel only talks so much to the nvidia card I guess...
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> I guess I just like using familiar apps.
[15:49] <Deathlire> yes shark is there..not much of a screen to output to though
[15:49] <Hawkerz> levo, why doesn't he just connect to your wireless network
[15:49] <Hawkerz> levo, that would be much more straightforward than trying to establish an ad-hoc network just to talk to the person sitting next to you
[15:49] <levo> we want to chat
[15:49] <levo> without internet access
[15:49] <Hawkerz> did you consider having an actual conversation?
[15:50] <Deathlire> lol
[15:50] <levo> Hawkerz: we are not in the same floor
[15:50] <jigal> hi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping 8.8.8.8 any idea's? How should i configure my network connection?
[15:50] <Deathlire> best thing i've heard in awhile..
[15:50] <levo> we need to be in contact
[15:50] <Deathlire> run a cable levo
[15:50] <Hawkerz> levo, but you are close enough to form an ad-hoc network?
[15:50] <Hawkerz> is your friend a romantic interest?
[15:50] <levo> is it supposed to be a therapy support channel?
[15:51] <Deathlire> hey now i've seen ad-hocs that run over a mile or two..so eh..not sure what ya talkin :P
[15:51] <Hawkerz> no, but if you're doing it for romance I'm way more interested in helping
[15:51] <levo> can't you just answer?
[15:51] <Hawkerz> IRC I am quite proficient at, but ad-hoc networking i have no experience with, so I'd have to read about it to help you
[15:51] <Hawkerz> so you see the math...
[15:52] <levo> what i'm trying to do is making an irc server in a library for answerning readers question without making noise. capipsh?
[15:52] <Hawkerz> not really, since that doesn't demand ad-hoc networking
[15:52] <Deathlire> sounds like you are telling us a lie..but also you can do this but are you using a computer..or a phone..?
[15:52] <levo> so there's no place for wiring.
[15:52] <levo> damn
[15:53] <levo> i'm on my laptop, ubuntu precise
[15:53] <Hawkerz> in fact I'm pretty sure an ad-hoc network would be counterproductive to the goal of fielding a bunch of inquiries
[15:53] <Hawkerz> why did you decide to go with irc anyway?
[15:53] <levo> it allows multiple connections for chatters
[15:53] <Deathlire> sounds like they want a fake network to be wirelessly transmitted to get incoming data and sent back..to me
[15:54] <Deathlire> ad-hoc is only one connection..or am I just presuming to much?
[15:54] <levo> do you have any better idea? me: ubuntu , guy: windows 7. we want to chat in library. distance: 3 to 20 meters.
[15:55] <Deathlire> install skype beta..have other person install skype windows flavor..chat
[15:55] <Deathlire> or yahoo..or whatever
[15:55] <levo> Deathlire: no internet access
[15:55] <Hawkerz> in a library? really?
[15:55] <Deathlire> ahh use lan messenger..then
[15:55] <wtfman> use a lan chat app
[15:55] <levo> Deathlire: where are you from?
[15:56] <Deathlire> wine it on nix..other person can use windows version
[15:56] <Hawkerz> but yeah, IRC is massively overkill for this
[15:56] <Hawkerz> I've been on small IRC servers but never ones consisting of just 2 people
[15:56] <levo> Hawkerz: how?
[15:56] <Deathlire> i'm from SC..that enough for ya?
[15:57] <Hawkerz> levo, all the IRC servers I know of are designed to manage thousands of simultaneous connections, they are very complex pieces of software
[15:57] <levo> Hawkerz: i installed irc-hybrid server.
[15:57] <billkd> how about netcat?
[15:58] <Hawkerz> sure, I'm not saying it won't work -- though I don't really see what the trouble is then if the server is running and you got the ad hoc stuff down
[15:58] <Deathlire> and some reason i have 10 of those servers..dedicated since about 2000 to the same 10 ppl..keep trying to increase ppl but never works for some reason..plus i never cared if it did
[15:58] <levo> what's the maximum distance ad-hoc can support?
[15:58] <Hawkerz> depends on the strength of your respective wireless cards
[15:59] <Deathlire> uhmm about well depends on your antenna gain really..well mostly
[15:59] <Hawkerz> if one of you is running ubuntu you probably want to disable laptop mode and all that
[15:59] <ioria> netcat is good, also linpopup, but you have to compile it
[15:59] <wtfman> what is laptop mode ?
[15:59] <Deathlire> even my android gets a signal out over ad-hoc about 40 feet
[15:59] <Hawkerz> or, more specifically, don't let your wireless card fall into powersave mode
[15:59] <levo> so what the windows guy should do to connect to my irc server?
[16:00] <levo> (ad-hoc wifi0
[16:00] <Hawkerz> get an irc client and type in whatevery ou type in to address the other party in an ad hoc network
[16:00] <Deathlire> run say xchat2..or mirc and connect to it
[16:00] <Hawkerz> lol
[16:00] <levo> i enter 127.0.0.1
[16:00] <levo> but what he should enter for the server/
[16:00] <levo> ?
[16:00] <Deathlire> run mirc.. then /server localhost 6667
[16:00] <ioria> levo: your IP
[16:01] <Hawkerz> oh, levo, seems like you can assign yourself an IP
[16:01] <Deathlire> also depends if he has the right listening ip in the conf which i doubt is.
[16:01] <Hawkerz> if you're in ubuntu though you can just ifconfig and find it out at the time
[16:01] <levo> sorry to ask but how i can determine what my IP is when i'm not connected to the internet/
[16:01] <Deathlire> whatismyip.org
[16:02] <wtfman> if he is not connected *
[16:02] <Hawkerz> well if you have an established network connection, levo, you can go to a terminal and run 'ifconfig'
[16:02] <Deathlire> or ifconfig
[16:02] <Deathlire> works wonders
[16:02] <ioria> levo: your IP does not related to Internet
[16:02] <Hawkerz> no idea, maybe you can make an ad-hoc loopback network for testing purposes
[16:02] <ioria> levo: your IP it's not  related to Internet
[16:02] <Loki_> What is the command to access the kubuntu via terminal? startx?
[16:02] <Hawkerz> alternatively you can assign yourself a static ip
[16:02] <Hawkerz> ^ recommended
[16:02] <Deathlire> most likely if they don't have net for some reason..it's probably going to block you on port 6667..so use port 5900 as a listening port
[16:02] <Hawkerz> and make sure you use that as the bind address of the irc server
[16:03] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, ad hoc network
[16:03] <Hawkerz> no rules
[16:03] <juvani> Loki_: startkde
[16:03] <wtfman> Guys, does anyone knows how to tunnel IPv6 traffic using IPv4 network ?
[16:03] <Loki_> juvani: Thank you.
[16:03] <Deathlire> ad-hoc directly binds so it should be a simple task..how the hell ya even binding ad-hoc really or even why is my real question
[16:04] <Hawkerz> well, I can think of lots of reasons, and the air of mysteriousness made me want to help
[16:04] <Loki_> juvani: Can I choose between environments too? For example: startgnome
[16:04] <Hawkerz> Loki_, yes, nobody is forcing you to start kde
[16:04] <Hawkerz> Loki_, it helps if you have gnome installed as well as kde though if you want to run it
[16:04] <levo> Deathlire, Hawkerz: ioria: so this is what should we do (correct if i'm wrong): i create an ad-hoc , windows guy connects to it. he runs hexchat and enters: /server x.x.x.x which is my IP. then every thing goes well. right?
[16:04] <juvani> Loki_: genome-session for genome
[16:04] <Loki_> Hawkerz: So the command is the right: startgnome -- startkde
[16:05] <zimzum77> how does one copy and paste a command line in terminl, I try with mouse but no luck
[16:05] <Deathlire> yeah its got my mind going nuts..on why someone and how someone can make an ad-hoc network that well they want to talk over and they can't..itshould be easy
[16:05] <levo> any firefall thing may happen?
[16:05] <Hawkerz> levo, do you have a firewall running?
[16:05] <Deathlire> ctrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste
[16:05] <Loki_> got it.
[16:05] <levo> Hawkerz: idk
[16:05] <ioria> levo: Let's give it a try
[16:05] <Hawkerz> zimzum77, are you in an actual console, or in a windowed emulator?
[16:06] <zimzum77> Hawkerz,     xterm
[16:06] <Hawkerz> can't you just highlight with the mouse?
[16:06] <Deathlire> ctrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste
[16:06] <ioria> levo: but in my advice it's better a messanger client
[16:06] <gustav_> Now, if only the Steam client would stop being so sucky...
[16:07] <levo> ioria: what?
[16:07] <gustav_> Can't even drag the window.
[16:07] <zimzum77> i can highlight but no copy pasta
[16:07] <ioria> levo: it's like the sms on your phone
[16:07] <Hawkerz> zimzum77, you should use a different VTE
[16:07] <Hawkerz> zimzum77, I suggest gnome-terminal
[16:07] <Hawkerz> or whatever the KDE one is
[16:07] <zimzum77> but i'll try cntr option
[16:07] <Deathlire> use a Vicks :P
[16:07] <Hawkerz> it doesn't work, zimzum77
[16:08] <zimzum77> gnome term eh?/
[16:08] <Deathlire> ./gnome-terminal
[16:08] <Hawkerz> gustav_, i'm not entirely sure about the complexities involved in the process of modeswitching
[16:08] <Hawkerz> it's probably worth hanging around their irc channel actually...they're on here right?
[16:09] <levo> Deathlire: isn't possible to more than one laptop connects to my wi-wi connection?
[16:09] <Deathlire> no, you can only have One connection per ad-hoc mode
[16:10] <levo> isn't any other connection type that supports multi connections?
[16:10] <Deathlire> sounds like you need to just have them connect to whatever you are connecting to, and then finding out your private ip's then cnnect to each other over irc
[16:11] <levo> Deathlire: i didn't get what you mean
[16:11] <Hawkerz> theoretically it makes no sense that you should be limited to one connection
[16:11] <Deathlire> it requires walking to the other people and telling them your ip and how to connect to you..like say example: /server 192.168.1.42 6667
[16:12] <Hawkerz> but I really don't actually know much about it because I have never attempted to establish an ad-hoc network
[16:12] <levo> so it's not impossible for others to connect to my local irc server via wireless
[16:12] <Deathlire> well ad-hoc is just one connection to just one other computer..thats why it's called what it is :P
[16:13] <Deathlire> no as long as they are connected to the same network..or ssid your on
[16:13] <bizhanMona> HI all, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my system for the first time. Then I typed "sudo apt-get update" and I got the following errors:  pastebin.com/T3NffkT4   any idea please? thanks
[16:14] <levo> Deathlire: you mean it's possible, right?  (cause i said : so it's not IMpossible for others )
[16:14] <Deathlire> yes brb
[16:15] <jirido> 3;3~
[16:17] <Deathlire> just have everyone connect to the same wifi you are connecting to..if you have one right?
[16:17] <stercor> I have a bunch of 3.5", 1.44Mb discs. There are disk drives aplenty.  My question is whether Ubuntu supports them (drivers)
[16:17] <Hawkerz> yep
[16:17] <Deathlire> ahh yes unfortunately they actually do :P
[16:17] <Hawkerz> I just finished installing a fresh copy of msdos 6.22 from original floppy images
[16:17] <Deathlire> and they are disks :P
[16:17] <levo> Deathlire: yes, my laptop is the other connecting to
[16:18] <Hawkerz> stercor, remember, imz = img zipped, you can literally just unzip it
[16:18] <stercor> ?
[16:19] <Besatnias> Hello, chatters.
[16:19] <Deathlire> if its only your computer and there is no wifi to connect to, then you will unfortunately have to just do ad-hoc without a router. which means only one person can connect
[16:19] <stercor> Where would the .imz file be and how would it be named?
[16:19] <_cronus_> Deathlire, iirc you can connect multiple computers on an ad-hoc network
[16:19] <Besatnias> do you know of a tool to find appropriate drivers for my computer?
[16:20] <levo> _cronus_: really?
[16:20] <Deathlire> and once you open up a terminal..which if you have already figured out a way to ad-hoc it means you have knowledge of how to install and run dhcp2-server and it's conf's..so i'm beyond your help
[16:21] <Deathlire> multiple if wired _cronus_
[16:21] <Deathlire> and also depends on the chipset of the wifi in question
[16:21] <david__> hello
[16:22] <levo> brb
[16:22] <levo> wanna test irc win connect
[16:22] <david__> I need your help on LVM. I reduced a logical device without the flag -r, so the filesystem has not been shrinked. How can I fix this ?
[16:22] <afflicto-laptop> Does anyone know of an app suitable for pixel art?
[16:22] <_cronus_> Deathlire, that's strange. i remember i used it before i got my asus portable ap
[16:23] <Deathlire> pixel or ansi/ascii?
[16:23] <bizhanMona> HI all, I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my system for the first time. Then I typed "sudo apt-get update" and I got the following errors:  pastebin.com/T3NffkT4   any idea please? thanks
[16:23] <stercor> What I'd like to hear is: "That's a dumb question.  Of course they are. Have been for years."
[16:23] <Deathlire> what kind of wifi repeater chip did it have _cronus_ ? :P
[16:24] <_cronus_> Deathlire, can't remember it used atheros driver for sure
[16:24] <Deathlire> ahh atheros..one of the best tools in my profession haha
[16:26] <Kryil> hey guys. I could need some help with xrandr. It seems that I'm to dumb to use --rmmode to delete wrong modes, as I can't find the names (xrandr only lists the modes, but not their names). Could someone give me a quick hint where to find them?
[16:27] <antonius> I need to access a HFS+ drive, but am having troubles with permissions.  I even changed my uid.  Whats the best solution for this?  I have nearly 2 terabytes of data, and need to at least read hfs+
[16:27] <Hawkerz> Kryil, why do you need to delete modes?
[16:27] <Deathlire> sudo is your friend
[16:28] <Hawkerz> antonius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660958
[16:28] <Kryil> Hawkerz: I'm using a DVI->VGA adapter. My machine is unable to detect the proper resolution of my monitor now.
[16:28] <Hawkerz> Kryil, you still shouldn't need to delete modes
[16:28] <petester> are there any reports of the latest security update breaking people's wifi?
[16:28] <Deathlire> set it manually in the xorg conf eh
[16:28] <petester> i'm on a macbook pro 5,5 and I've reinstalled twice with the same bug
[16:29] <Hawkerz> petester, are you installing in bootcamp? virtual machine? what
[16:29] <Deathlire> i broke your wifi..i am here..i am quiet..i am your vengeance :P
[16:29] <levo> Deathlire: i entered my ad-hoc ip in /server x.x.x.x  result: connection refused
[16:30] <petester> hawkerz I wiped the laptop and I'm doing single-boot ubuntu
[16:30] <levo> Deathlire: and windows guy couldn't even connect to the ad-hoc network!
[16:30] <Deathlire> levo if your using say xchat since your nix.. try /connect xxxx 6667
[16:30] <Hawkerz> levo, you need to edit the configuration file for hybridircd and set the bind host to your ip address
[16:30] <Kryil> Hawkerz: It seems that after graphic driver updates I always run into the issue of getting the wrong resolution (something, my monitor can't display). In addition, although only the proper resolution is in xorg.conf, even the wrong ones are listet (and somehow are used after resuming the machine)
[16:30] <Hawkerz> petester, you are the first person I've heard that from
[16:31] <m2k> hello everyone
[16:31] <Hawkerz> petester, http://paste.ubuntu.com -- hmmm are you on ubuntu now?
[16:31] <Hawkerz> if so, please share the output from sudo lshw -c net
[16:31] <petester> Hawkerz yes, I plugged into the ethernet
[16:31] <Deathlire> do the editing on conf..bind to your ip addy which is probably 192.168.x.x or 10.10.x.x and then rehash the server
[16:32] <m2k> guys i have a problem
[16:32] <Hawkerz> prolly need to restart it actually, sudo service hybrid-ircd restart (where hybrid-ircd is whatever it's really called)
[16:32] <levo> Hawkerz: what about the user = "*@127.0.0.1" ? should it be change so?
[16:32] <Hawkerz> Kryil, I have had the same problem as you, let me see if I still have the script I was using
[16:33] <Deathlire> well yeah i'm not familiar with hybrid i don't use it..i use unreal..which is an easy ./unreal rehash
[16:33] <Hawkerz> levo, user="*@*"
[16:33] <m2k> when ever i tri to boot up i get a red splash screen however if i boot up using recovery mode and then resume system it works... anyway know why this is?
[16:33] <Hawkerz> I've never used hybrid either but I can't imagine it's too difficult
[16:33] <Kryil> Hawkerz, thanks. Did your problem include wrong resolutions after logging back in (not logged of, just a locked screen)?
[16:34] <Deathlire> user = "*"
[16:34] <Hawkerz> m2k: without logs it will be very hard to diagnose -- the output of dmesg would be a good place to start
[16:34] <petester> Hawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602378/
[16:34] <Kryil> Apart from that, I should simply buy a DVI cable for the future ~.~
[16:35] <Hawkerz> Kryil, depending on your hardware, it may not actually solve the problem :p
[16:35] <petester> Hawkerz, also I don't know if this is relevant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602383/
[16:35] <Hawkerz> petester, did you install the broadcom drivers ?
[16:35] <Deathlire> my system actually uses dvi's.. 2 of them actually..and i have them both adapted to hdmi..which kills color output..but seems ok
[16:36] <petester> Hawkerz yes.  Software Sources says that I'm using the proprietary ones right now.
[16:36] <Kryil> Hawkerz: With my old graphics card this never happened. The monitor sent the correct resolutions. My new one has no VGA output and uses the adapter. That's why I thought that's the issue
[16:36] <m2k> Hawkerz where can i find the logs? all i can really do is take a video nothing else it wont even get to the login screen
[16:37] <Hawkerz> hmmk
[16:37] <Hawkerz> in reverse order, m2k: the logs should still be saved to the disk (/var/log/dmesg.1 will be the dmesg from the previous boot, for instance)
[16:38] <Hawkerz> Kryil, older grahpics cards are better at communicating EDID over vga than newer cards
[16:38] <Hawkerz> and petester, I'm going to need a second to figure yours out
[16:38] <petester> Hawkerz ok, thanks.  You should set up a paypal so people can tip you for your efforts!
[16:41] <Hawkerz> petester, I just don't like people struggling with something that can be fixed pretty easily
[16:41] <Hawkerz> having done a lot of that myself
[16:43] <luke> hi guys
[16:43] <Hawkerz> petester, lsmod | grep bcm
[16:44] <Deathlire> and the countless ppl who say bye to linux when they just can't get graphics to work right or something to compile like it should...killing them from using it..
[16:44] <ghost_> how every one
[16:44] <Guest69730> what do you think is a better vpn securityvpn or express vpn? does anyone know?
[16:45] <petester> Hawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602417/
[16:45] <Deathlire> probably security..express is usually a term for newbs
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> never heard of either
[16:45] <Hawkerz> petester, also, apparently you need to blacklist 'b43' and 'ssb': http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784460&p=10948641#post10948641
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> openvpn vpnc and they have that open-connect client
[16:46] <chaox> hey
[16:46] <chaox> is chromium-dev completely broken or usable?
[16:46] <Deathlire> depends on how they market the vpn..i guess
[16:47] <Hawkerz> i expect it is usable chaox or they wouldn't distribute it
[16:47] <Guest69730> i live in china and i need to crack out of the firewall
[16:47] <Hawkerz> well, chromium-dev is more likely to be development headers than a usable web browser
[16:47] <Deathlire> why would it be broken? it sure isn't going to be the best bug free thing..but dev is sometimes ok if you want the latest
[16:47] <Guest69730> i was here earlier, i thought i may need to just buy a vpn service
[16:47] <jigal> getting this error when logging in to my ubuntu server: ubable to cd to /home/jigal
[16:48] <Deathlire> then change your dns..if you want to kill a firewall
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> or tunnel your traffic over ssh...
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> not sure what changing dns would do to kill a f/w btw
[16:48] <Deathlire> that works to..but vpn's are nice to have if they are legit
[16:48] <ferronica> billkd, you moron
[16:49] <Hawkerz> petester, hopefully this is the last question I have -- cat /etc/modules
[16:49] <ferronica> who is admin here
[16:49] <mhills> quit
[16:49] <ikonia> ferronica: what's up ?
[16:49] <Deathlire> most fwalls in china or actually isp's use a dns thats filtered which kills most of the net is all
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> and if your going for bypassing by encrypting your traff - why not do it for free?
[16:49] <ferronica> Ban billkd
[16:49] <ikonia> ferronica: please don't call people morons
[16:49] <Guest69730> how do you do those things? free would be better i guess if there's another option
[16:49] <ferronica> ikonia hi
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> Deathlire: ahh i see
[16:50] <ferronica> ikonia u want to now reason
[16:50] <ferronica> ikonia, Know*
[16:50] <ikonia> ferronica: if you have a problem, please join #ubuntu-ops and we can resolve it
[16:50] <pdbeard> ==
[16:50] <chaox> Guest69730: whats the problem with you being in china?
[16:50] <chaox> cant access something?
[16:50] <petester> Hawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602429/
[16:51] <Hawkerz> firewall probably chaox
[16:51] <ferronica> ikonia, he hacked my system and created Batch file to auto kill Xchat
[16:51] <Hawkerz> petester, sudo echo "wl" >> /etc/modules
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> batch file?
[16:51] <Hawkerz> petester, also, modprobe wl
[16:51] <ikonia> ferronica: please do what I told you
[16:51] <Hawkerz> er, sudo modprobe wl
[16:51] <Deathlire> quite a few problems can be killed by using googles dns..but if it's something else then well..i may can help you :)
[16:51] <ferronica> ikonia, he insisted me to install ssh
[16:51] <petester> Hawkerz I get permission denied when I try to do those blacklist things
[16:52] <llutz> Hawkerz: sudo echo >> doesn't work, use "echo foo |sudo tee -a bar"
[16:52] <ikonia> ferronica: final time - join #ubuntu-ops if you have a problem
[16:52] <Hawkerz> right, sorry
[16:52] <Guest69730> this great chinese firewall is killing me; no facebook zynga poker, no porn, no youtube and no pbs or bbc online videos
[16:52] <Hawkerz> petester, do what llutz said
[16:52] <Deathlire> if somebody told you to instal ssh when it was already installed..hmm..also you shouldn't give out root and passes
[16:52] <chaox> Guest69730: No PrOn ?!
[16:53] <ssvss> Hi, I would like to run the following cmd at startup "sudo apt-get install irssi
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> do they push those filtered DNS via ISP autoconf (DHCP or something) or or they *enforcing* it by redirecting dns traffic to a certain set of dns servers?
[16:53] <Hawkerz> ssvss, are you sure you need to install it every time yo uboot up?
[16:53] <petester> so just replace >> with |
[16:53] <ssvss> sorry ignore the above line, incorrect cmd
[16:53] <billkd> ssvss: why do you want to install a package every time your machine boots?
[16:53] <Guest69730> yea!
[16:53] <Hawkerz> petester, i'll just give you a single line to execute
[16:53] <Sjajne_Niti> ssvss, :D
[16:53] <petester> nvm i got it
[16:53] <Hawkerz> one second
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> if it's the first than wouldn't getting around it for all of china be as easy as Deathlire mentioned?
[16:53] <Hawkerz> oh
[16:53] <Hawkerz> fantastic
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> or would they get like caned or something for that?
[16:54] <boba88> hi
[16:54] <Deathlire> SolarisBoy : they actually have a dropper on the dns comps just for that reason
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> sheesh
[16:54] <boba88> i moved from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 11.10 for the devolopment of one program
[16:54] <Hawkerz> petester: after that, check the output of lsmod for either 'b43' or 'ssb' -- if either one is present then 'sudo modprobe -r xxx'
[16:54] <petester> Hawkerz actually the text scrolled too far and I'm not an irssi expert, could you copy paste the echo foo | sudo ....
[16:54] <boba88> i have trouble linkking agains glew
[16:54] <boba88> against*
[16:55] <Deathlire> alot of isp's even america have it..ya just don't see it..but alot of it is getting thrown out when torrents are abound..around the us anyways
[16:55] <Hawkerz> petester, echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[16:56] <boba88> did something crucial change when Ubuntu introduced unity? Why I am able to compile and link on Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit and not on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit?
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> oh im sure but - heh yea i guess cause he still didn't mention what he site was going to.. coulda been pr0n
[16:56] <ssvss> I woule like to run this cmd at startup "echo 255 >   /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity". I can't run this as sudo. so I have to do a "sudo su" before running this cmd. including this is /etc/rc.local, after a "sudo su" doesn't work.
[16:56] <Hawkerz> boba88, compile and link what?
[16:56] <ikonia> billkd: could you check your private messages please.
[16:56] <boba88> Hawkerz: a program that uses freeglut, GLU and glew
[16:57] <Deathlire> boba88 you might want to "make clean" before ya compile from 32 to 64 bit
[16:57] <boba88> Deathlire: i did that
[16:57] <llutz> ssvss: you don't need to use sudo in rc.local, commands from there are run as root
[16:57] <SolarisBoy> ssvss: rc.local is going to run as the root user -
[16:57] <petester> Hawkerz I'm gonna reboot, be back in a minute.
[16:57] <Hawkerz> but yes, the entire windowing system is quite different as far as I know
[16:57] <Hawkerz> petester, hopefully
[16:57] <petester> ;)
[16:58] <Deathlire> all the deveolper headers and such installed as 64bit as well boba88 ?
[16:58] <zyngawow> hello
[16:58] <boba88> Deathlire: yep
[16:58] <boba88> Deathlire: i link as -lGL -lglut -lGLEW -lGLU
[16:58] <zyngawow> Can anyone help with ubuntu being veeery laggy graphically?
[16:58] <Hawkerz> boba88, what's the nature of your errors?
[16:58] <boba88> Deathlire: the thing is the libraries are found but the defintions within them are not!
[16:59] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, probably, but i need a minute
[16:59] <boba88> Hawkerz: undefined reference to `__glewDeleteFramebuffersEXT'
[16:59] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, I've got plenty of time :)
[16:59] <ssvss> I tried adding the command without sudo in rc.local, but the file wasn't updated after a reboot. any idea what I might be doing wrong.
[16:59] <Deathlire> Thats one thing i probably can't help you with..I'm not the best on compilers or modes for them
[16:59] <zyngawow> I installed ATI's drivers, it was laggy, went to software sources and enabled propietary drivers from there... still laggy
[16:59] <Deathlire> ohh ya got undefined refs..hmm
[17:00] <Deathlire> are they symlinked?
[17:00] <Guest69730> can someone like hack into the chinese government and take down the firewall for a while so i can check my facebook account and watch epic fail compilations on youtube
[17:01] <Guest69730> joking
[17:01] <petester> Hawkerz, still no wifi :/
[17:01] <boba88> Deathlire: i think not
[17:01] <petester> blacklisting didn't work
[17:02] <boba88> Deathlire: the libs are at /usr/local/lib
[17:02] <zimzum77> so can i get rid of, xterm, uxterm when i have just terminal
[17:02] <boba88> Deathlire: for example the libglew.so
[17:02] <Deathlire> Guest69730: reroute your dns to say 8.8.8.8 and if it doesn't work let us know
[17:03] <petester> however software sources seems to be showing new hardware that wasn't there before
[17:03] <Deathlire> boba88 i'm not sure exactly but have you tried to apt-get update *glew*
[17:03] <zyngawow> My Ubuntu is laggy with moving windows around, video playback seems fine, I tried launching MineCraft and it just didnt work.
[17:04] <Genrawir> zyngawow: Have you installed the video drivers?
[17:04] <Hawkerz> petester, lsmod | grep wl
[17:04] <Guest69730> i would love to but my router is in chinese and there's no english version
[17:05] <Guest69730> and i cant read chinese
[17:05] <Deathlire> or really what chipset do they have for the gpu..depends
[17:05] <you-tee-f> could someone tell me which implementation of ANSI is commonly used in the modern unix-like OS  §
[17:05] <you-tee-f> ?
[17:05] <boba88> Deathlire: i tried to update to 1.6
[17:05] <boba88> i know the newest is 1.9 but still
[17:05] <ikonia> you-tee-f: you may want to try the ##linux channel, this channel is only for Ubuntu
[17:06] <Deathlire> your in china and can't read chinese? hehe well try to google what the router pages say?
[17:06] <petester> Hawkerz, that command returns blank
[17:06] <you-tee-f> my bad
[17:06] <Hawkerz> petester, sudo modprobe wl
[17:06] <Deathlire> ansi-540
[17:06] <zyngawow> Genrawir, yes, I went to ATI's website and downloaded latest driver and installed it.
[17:06] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, that was a biiiiiig mistake
[17:06] <babs> sasc
[17:06] <zyngawow> Is it=
[17:06] <Guest69730> :) yea...i should get on the learning how to read it. i'll try the google translate
[17:07] <Skire> with the new 13.1 proprietary legacy ati drivers, are the opensource drivers still the way to go for 2D performance?
[17:07] <petester> Hawkerz, FATAL: Module wl not found
[17:07] <Hawkerz> yes, zyngawow, run this command and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com -- sudo lshw -c display
[17:07] <zyngawow> What was Ubuntu's shortcut for terminal?
[17:07] <Skire> ctrl alt T
[17:08] <boba88> alt F2
[17:08] <kurteknikk> Hi, anybody knows of any issue with  logrotate and mysql ? My issue is that the the user exists and it has the correct password but i still get: error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log ' run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1
[17:08] <boba88> then type gnome-terminal
[17:08] <boba88> :)
[17:08] <Deathlire> actually Guest69730 : maybe you should try just translating dns and then try  to figure out where it is..probably is 4 lines..might be 2..for ip's
[17:08] <Genrawir> zyngawow: You might need the 'Official' Oracle Java for Minecraft, but unfortunately I run NVidia, so I'm not too versed with ATI.
[17:08] <boba88> longer than ctrl alt t
[17:08] <babs> how does the xchat works
[17:08] <zyngawow> Genrawir, no, I had MineCraft running on OpenJDK before
[17:08] <zyngawow> Genrawir, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602478/
[17:09] <zyngawow> Nice, 33mhz
[17:09] <IvelfanFr> Hello every
[17:09] <boba88> Deathlire: the update did not help
[17:09] <IvelfanFr> I have a problem, someone can help me ?
[17:10] <Genrawir> zyngawow: Ok, that seems right, because I'm using OpenJDK again (it was broken for a bit some time ago).
[17:10] <Deathlire> so it did update though boba88 ?
[17:10] <IdleOne> IvelfanFr: depends what the problem is, ask your question and if someone can help they will.
[17:10] <boba88> Deathlire: i did sudo apt-get update
[17:10] <Genrawir> zyngawow: In that case I would look to install the video drivers through Ubuntu instead of from the ATI website.
[17:10] <llutz> kurteknikk: "sudo logrotate -dv -f /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server"  any useful info?
[17:10] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602478/
[17:10] <zyngawow> Genrawir, I tried that too... maybe I messed everything up doing that
[17:10] <IvelfanFr> IdleOne: Okay
[17:10] <boba88> Deathlire: you cannot do sudo apt-get update *glew*
[17:11] <boba88> but rather update the everything
[17:11] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, lsmod | grep video
[17:11] <kurteknikk> llutz, let me check...
[17:11] <Deathlire> all i can say is try another make clean which ya probably did..or wait on one of these fellas to help ya..least i tried
[17:11] <Deathlire> meant upgrade sorry
[17:11] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, nothing
[17:11] <Hawkerz> but yeah, ultimately zyngawow -- the stuff I need to see is: dpkg -l | grep -i ati
[17:12] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, the output of that is too long
[17:12] <Guest69730> here we go i've found my primary dns server; would that be it?
[17:12] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, it fills the console up
[17:12] <IvelfanFr> I have install Ubuntu 12.04 on my new computer. Ubuntu boot and login works but when I'm on the desktop and I launch one software, I have a big freeze of component. My mouse works on the soft (for example, Change channel on IRC) but when I clic on Cross to close soft nothing happend.
[17:13] <Deathlire> Guest69730: Yes, that would be it and Secondary as well.. use first as 8.8.8.8 and second as 8.8.4.4
[17:13] <boba88> Deathlire: now i do an upgrage 742 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
[17:13] <IvelfanFr> The left side works with my mouse but not the top side.
[17:14] <IvelfanFr> I try to change USB Port of my Mouse but nothing happend, I try to change my mouse, same thing.
[17:14] <Hawkerz> petester, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:14] <kurteknikk> llutz, interesting i see this at the end of the output: removing old log /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz
[17:14] <kurteknikk> error: error opening /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz: No such file or directory
[17:14] <Hawkerz> proprietary ATI drivers are still called fglrx?
[17:15] <zyngawow> they are
[17:15] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, what version of ubuntu are you on
[17:15] <zyngawow> 12.10
[17:15] <llutz> kurteknikk: but " /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz"  exists?
[17:15] <kurteknikk> llutz, strange because earlier i see: renaming /var/log/mysql.log.7.gz to /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz (rotatecount 7, logstart 1, i 7),
[17:15] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, here is your article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/129200#129200
[17:16] <petester> Hawkerz, The options in Software Sources changed, but still no wifi.  Should I reboot again?
[17:16] <kurteknikk> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602501/
[17:16] <Hawkerz> petester, try sudo modprobe wl
[17:16] <Hawkerz> :p
[17:17] <petester> still not found
[17:17] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, sh: 0: Can't open /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh huh
[17:17] <Hawkerz> reboot for the moment
[17:17] <zyngawow> Is it installed lol?
[17:17] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, yeah, hang on, I was about to stop you
[17:17] <oal> I just reinstalled ubuntu, an I have two monitors. Now, when it's in power save mode, and I reactivate it again, the second monitor takes very long to turn on again. It used to be pretty much instantanious. Any ideas?
[17:17] <llutz> kurteknikk: but " /var/log/mysql.log.8.gz"  exists?
[17:17] <kurteknikk> llutz, strange but apparently mysq.log.8.gz doesn't exist and not even mysql.log.8.gz
[17:18] <kurteknikk> llutz, *mysql.log.7.gz (whilst i saw that files were renamed so they should exist...
[17:18] <k1lled> hi all, someone from here talk bulgarian? my english is band, i want to ask something....
[17:18] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, I'm going to give you a customized set of instructions
[17:18] <k1lled> english is bad *
[17:18] <Hawkerz> just give me a moment
[17:19] <IvelfanFr> How can I recover my root password, I forget it ...
[17:19] <IvelfanFr> ?
[17:19] <Deathlire> i only know dovijdane
[17:19] <xangua> IvelfanFr: you shouldn't even had root password enabled
[17:19] <kurteknikk> llutz, no it doesn't exist
[17:19] <k1lled> Deathlire haha :)
[17:19] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, perfect :)
[17:19] <llutz> kurteknikk: "getent passwd mysql"    uid=108 i assume
[17:19] <reape737> hello
[17:19] <k1lled> Deathlire you know what mean dovijdane?
[17:20] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, I did the second step on there to because I did &&
[17:20] <Hawkerz> if the first step failed then the second step also failed
[17:20] <Guest69730> hey  guys i tried it but still no youtube etc
[17:20] <IvelfanFr> xangua: I don't understand.
[17:20] <andrew123> hello
[17:20] <kurteknikk> llutz, yes, uid=108
[17:20] <Deathlire> yes, means good bye as my bulgarian friend taught me
[17:21] <kurteknikk> llutz, the other files exist from 1-6 but 7 and 8 don't exist
[17:21] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, it didnt
[17:21] <Guest69730> Deathline you have a bulgarian friend?
[17:21] <andrew123> I just installed google-chrome, but it can only be run from terminal. When I run it and Lock it to Launcher it cannot be run (does some animation and thats it) - any advice please?
[17:21] <llutz> kurteknikk: "df -h /var/log"
[17:21] <k1lled> Deathlire how is his nickname ?
[17:21] <Deathlire> yeah kinda my bulgarian gal somewhat. but isn't
[17:22] <ioria> IvelfanFr: get the User's Ubuntu Manual and scroll to TroubleShooting, you'll find the solution
[17:22] <k1lled> Deathlire you undarstand from ubuntu ?
[17:22] <Deathlire> ja
[17:22] <DoctorTruth> anyone know how to fix choppy graphics and speeds in video games on xubuntu 12.04
[17:22] <kurteknikk> llutz, /dev/sda7       907G  434G  428G  51% /
[17:23] <kurteknikk> llutz, there is space available...
[17:23] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, could you please PM me the instructions when you have them?
[17:23] <Capprentice> FloodBot1,  hello ;)
[17:23] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, sure thing almost done
[17:23] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, are you using unity?
[17:23] <reaper_> you need to reinstall the drivers for graphics card
[17:23] <Guest69730> what is DNS anyway?
[17:24] <jhutchins_wk> Guest69730: It's the service that translates hostnames to IP addresses.
[17:24] <Capprentice> Domain Name System.  Connect google.com to its corresponding UP
[17:24] <Capprentice> IP
[17:24] <Guest69730> ah, thanks
[17:24] <Deathlire> domain name server..it looks up all the info on a name and resolutes to an ip
[17:24] <Hawkerz> I expect that changing local nameservers is not going to thwart the chinese government, sadly
[17:24] <llutz> kurteknikk: so diskspace is not the problem, you might test the brute method: "sudo rm mysql.log.[3-7].gz" and run logrotate again to see if it stll errors (just be sure you don't need the old logs anymore)
[17:25] <petester> Hawkerz, still no wifi :/
[17:25] <Guest69730> yea they may have cottoned on to that
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> kurteknikk: If you need them you can move them to some other directory.
[17:25] <andrew123>  I just installed google-chrome, but it can only be run from terminal. When I run it and Lock it to Launcher it cannot be run (does some animation and thats it) - any advice please?
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat
[17:26] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, No, I used something to get gnome 3
[17:26] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, I'll get you a link
[17:26] <kurteknikk> llutz, why do you think i should remove the others ? since there is space left shouldn't be a problem right ?
[17:26] <Capprentice> How to setup vpn ? Is there any software like HotSpot Shield for Ubuntu ?
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> andrew123: We really don't know anything about how Google's software works.
[17:26] <kurteknikk> jhutchins_wk, thanks for your tip :)
[17:26] <ioria> petester: also b43 is blacklisted ?
[17:26] <llutz> kurteknikk:better  "sudo mv /var/log/mysql.log.[3-7].gz /tmp"
[17:26] <zyngawow> Hawkerz, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[17:26] <Deathlire> thats always my first line of defense..change dns servers...seems to work most of the time
[17:26] <reaper_> is there any gamer on steam for linux
[17:26] <llutz> kurteknikk: no just to check if logrotate runs through if there is no .7.gz , it is just a test
[17:26] <ikonia> reaper_: there are games on steam for linux, yes
[17:27] <kurteknikk> llutz, mmm ok let me try
[17:27] <petester> ioria yes
[17:27] <Hawkerz> ok zyngawow thanks
[17:27] <reaper_> i no that butt hell all the servers dont have any players
[17:27] <andrew123> jhutchins_wk: I thought the problem might be on Unity's side.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> andrew123: Wild guess: You need the full path.
[17:27] <Guest69730> there was a dns server number in there before i replaced it; it's not going to change anything is it now that i have?
[17:28] <ioria> petester: this link if for Arch, but could be usefull: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=149516
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> Guest69730: DHCP or static?
[17:28] <llutz> kurteknikk: tbh, its like  "poking in the dark" because i don't have any real idea why the rotation fails at that point.
[17:28] <Hawkerz> peterrus, did you sudo modprobe wl again?
[17:28] <Capprentice> Guest64555,  hey put 8.8.8.8 amd 8.8.4.4
[17:29] <kurteknikk> llutz, still same error
[17:29] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Nah, flickering is back in HoN.
[17:29] <kurteknikk> llutz, what i noticed is: rotating log /var/log/mysql.log, log->rotateCount is 7
[17:29] <Hawkerz> gustav_, at least it lasted awhile :p
[17:29] <Hawkerz> i guess bumblebee doesn't have it's own logs?
[17:30] <gustav_> Maybe.
[17:30] <Guest69730> yea i tried that capprentice, nothing. but there was 61.130.254.34 in the primary dns and nothing in the secondary
[17:30] <Hawkerz> gustav_, some errormsgs are reported to /var/log/syslog -- grep for bumblebee maybe
[17:30] <llutz> kurteknikk:i guess its just the value taken from here" grep rotate /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server"
[17:31] <Capprentice> Guest64555,  no matter. You can put what I have written. Still this will work.
[17:31] <kurteknikk> llutz, so from somewhere it's expecting that there's 7 logs...
[17:31] <Guest69730> ah that's ok, thanks
[17:31] <Guest69730> yea it looks like i'm still connected to the internet without that
[17:32] <Deathlire> should have first and second Guest69730 and if its put into the router to apply or save changes..may also need a good reboot to flush the dns
[17:32] <Deathlire> reboot of the router that is
[17:32] <Capprentice> yes. Reboot.
[17:32] <Capprentice> other wise changes will not reflect.
[17:32] <llutz> kurteknikk: but you removed the .3...7.gz from /var/log before you issued logrotate again, and checked it?
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> The only reason to reboot a linux system is to load a new kernel.
[17:33]  * sakhi trying to get more reasons why an open source application should not be hosted on a Windows server.
[17:33] <kurteknikk> llutz, yes i checked it and it still complained about 8
[17:33] <Hawkerz> Guest64555, are you seriously trying to circumvent the chinese government's firewall using dns?
[17:33] <Guest69730> sorry to sound stupid but is that push the little button in the back on and off
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> Rebooting for other reasons is a holdover from Windows and is not necessary in Linux.
[17:33] <ikonia> sakhi: please do it in a different channel then
[17:33] <Hawkerz> er, one of you anyway
[17:33] <Guest69730> yea, i'm trying :)
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> sakhi: What do you mean by hosted?
[17:34] <Hawkerz> I have to be somewhat skeptical that they would not have considered that
[17:34] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: sakhi this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:34] <llutz> kurteknikk: can you please pastebinit the output from last run?
[17:34] <kurteknikk> llutz, yeah give me a sec
[17:35] <sakhi> jhutchins_wk: I mean running a proprietary base OS and a OSS application. I'm sure this is the right channel for this though.
[17:35] <kurteknikk> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602555/
[17:36] <babs> hi
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> sakhi: ikonia is right that this isn't related to ubuntu, but there's no reason not to run OS applications like openoffice or konversation on a Windows system.
[17:36] <babs> hi
[17:37] <cloakable> Is this right place to ask about Pulseaudio on ubuntu?
[17:37] <llutz> kurteknikk: those "renaming ....7 ->8" "6->7" etc lines are independent of real existing log.files and i tested it here, it successfully removes 8.gz at the end. sorry no idea why it fails with your setup
[17:37] <Guest69730> what if i went to edit a new vpn and created a new one, would that work?
[17:37] <kristenbb> hi, I've recently updated some packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu3D, I am forwarded to ubuntu 2D. I have 12.04. What to do ?
[17:38] <kristenbb> k1l: ^
[17:38] <kurteknikk> llutz, strange i have 2 other servers and noone of them have problems
[17:38] <kurteknikk> llutz, also checked logrotate script and it looks the same...
[17:39] <Hawkerz> hmmmm hopefully zyngawow's disappearance and failure to return is because wiping fglrx went well....
[17:39] <kurteknikk> llutz, thanks a lot for your time, i'll see if i can figure out what's going on...
[17:39] <llutz> kurteknikk: sorry i couldn't help
[17:40] <radzior> hi, is xubuntu-desktop missing from repo? i have installed ubuntu over network and cant install xfce
[17:40] <llutz> kurteknikk:  but at least you are right, its not the debian-sysmaint-password :)
[17:40] <jrib> radzior: what happens when you try?
[17:41] <kurteknikk> llutz, yeah... what's interesting is that even if i run the command on another server that i have, it still complains about file 8
[17:41] <radzior> i get: E: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop
[17:41] <kurteknikk> llutz, but i never got any email notifications that it fails on that server
[17:41] <jrib> radzior: run "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[17:41] <radzior> jrib: did that
[17:41] <jrib> radzior: make sure you have universe enabled
[17:41] <radzior> jrib: how do i make sure?
[17:42] <jrib> !repositories | radzior
[17:42] <radzior> you mean, adding some new repos?
[17:42] <gustav_> I think the flickering is due to heat.
[17:42] <jrib> radzior: enable the universe repository, yes
[17:42] <gustav_> Hawkerz:
[17:43] <Hawkerz> yeah, I agree with you
[17:43] <radzior> thank you :)
[17:43] <Hawkerz> even my steady typing and programming has that effect
[17:43] <gustav_> Hawkerz: It started flickering, I lifted it from my lap and it stopped.
[17:43] <Hawkerz> it could be interesting to track temperature
[17:44] <gustav_> True.
[17:44] <gustav_> Seems to be a zillion sensors, though.
[17:44] <Guest69730> put your computer in the fridge
[17:44] <dakotawulfy> can someone help me with grub2
[17:44] <gustav_> It's rather cold already but sure.
[17:44] <dakotawulfy> want to write grub to usb thumb drive
[17:46] <Hawkerz> dakotawulfy, okay
[17:46] <Hawkerz> go for it
[17:47] <dakotawulfy> Hawkerz ok when i try to use this script it does not work i get a  ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
[17:48] <gustav_> What exactly are all the problems being worked on now?
[17:49] <kristenbb> hi, I've recently updated some packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu3D, I am forwarded to ubuntu 2D. I have 12.04. What to do ?
[17:49] <Hawkerz> dakotawulfy, how are you attempting to install?
[17:49] <Hawkerz> ubuntu has a tool specifically to make bootable usb sticks
[17:50] <Hawkerz> kristenbb, http://paste.ubuntu.com -- the output of: sudo lshw -c display
[17:50] <dakotawulfy> ok using this script
[17:50] <dakotawulfy> Hawkerz  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602597/
[17:50] <Hawkerz> dakotawulfy, so you -only- want grub?
[17:51] <Hawkerz> zyngawow, should I take the downtime as a sign that things went badly?
[17:51] <artrei> hi all, how do i call lxde panel settings from terminal?
[17:51] <zyngawow> No, everything went great, just the WiFi, I'm using my phone as a modem
[17:51] <kurteknikk> llutz, do you know who is responsible of the logrotate 'postrotate script' ? is it mysql or ubuntu ?
[17:52] <dakotawulfy> Hawkerz ok try to do an install on usb thumb drive wanted to do full install on usb
[17:52] <novice> how can I disable swap and remove swap file?
[17:52] <Hawkerz> dakotawulfy, use ubuntu's startup disk tool
[17:52] <Hawkerz> dakotawulfy, it does precisely that and handles all the formatting and stuff
[17:52] <dakotawulfy> nope
[17:52] <kristenbb> Hawkerz: http://pastebin.com/pHJkgVSP
[17:52] <dakotawulfy> no
[17:52] <llutz> kurteknikk: good question, mysql i'd guess
[17:52] <ronalds> It's interesting how unity runs tf2 faster than openbox, and I tought it's lightweight
[17:52] <novice> I tried swapoff -a but the next time system starts swap is there again
[17:53] <kurteknikk> llutz, ok because i think the problem is actually in the: 'running script (multiple) with arg...'
[17:54] <kurteknikk> llutz, which is actually the postrotate script... and they have a comment: Really no mysqld or rather a missing debian-sys-maint user?
[17:54] <kurteknikk> 		  # If this occurs and is not a error please report a bug.
[17:54] <dakotawulfy>  Hawkerz I want a full install  on usb drive with  works fine when i take out the hard drive and in stall it to usb just wanted it to be able to work without un hooking the drive
[17:54] <kurteknikk> llutz, so i think i should report a bug heh
[17:54] <ronalds> how to remove kde without removing other kde apps I installed before adding ppa, or some apps
[17:54] <alch___> hi!
[17:54] <notrootanymore> hello everybody
[17:54] <alch___> does anyone have experience with truecrypt?
[17:55] <ronalds> I tought it's easy to switch but some difficulties came with lightdm-kdm version overwriting gtk version
[17:55] <ronalds> how to get lightdm-gtk to run
[17:55] <ronalds> right now I have gdm, I ineed lightdm-gtk
[17:56] <llutz> kurteknikk:but "/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping"  as root succeeds?
[17:56] <llutz> kurteknikk: it should answer "mysqld is alive"
[17:57] <ronalds> maybe somebody?
[17:57] <dakotawulfy> ronalds
[17:58] <dakotawulfy> ronalds: When u install lightdm it should ask u what one u want to use  gdm or light dm
[17:58] <ronalds> yes
[17:58] <ronalds> so I should reinstall gtk version?
[17:59] <dakotawulfy>  ronalds not for sure u might want to install unity greater to just to make sure it works from get go
[18:00] <artrei> anyone using lubuntu or lxde? i need to go to panel settings from terminal
[18:00] <ronalds> artrei search for config of it
[18:00] <ronalds> lxpanel
[18:01] <artrei> ~/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels ?
[18:01] <ronalds> probably somewhere there
[18:01] <dakotawulfy> ronalds install the lightdmgtk and unity greater  just get that part working first
[18:02] <dakotawulfy> then u can alway change that
[18:02] <ronalds> ?
[18:02] <ronalds> I am installing for a wile...
[18:04] <krabador> how can i switch user from terminal ?
[18:04] <llutz> krabador: su - username
[18:04] <ronalds> Reading state information... Done
[18:04] <ronalds> E: Unable to locate package lightdm-gtk
[18:04] <ronalds> wtf
[18:05] <krabador> llutz, i need to watch the screen where choose the session type
[18:05] <ronalds> Reading state information... Done
[18:05] <ronalds> lightdm-gtk-greeter jau instalēta jaunākā versija.
[18:06] <aaa801> how can i give a user access to the /var/www folder ?
[18:06] <alch___> i'm using truecrypt to encrypt a whole disk (usb, external) - i can use it to "mount" the disk and create a device in /dev/mapper, but then i can't figure out how to actually mount the partitions within that device. can anyone help?
[18:08] <krabador> how can switch user running the login screen, from terminal?
[18:10] <auronandace> krabador: not sure what you meant but why not login via tty?
[18:11] <krabador> auronandace, i only need to swith desktop environment , and i would swich from terminal
[18:11] <krabador> *switch
[18:12] <auronandace> krabador: why from the terminal?
[18:12] <Lainey41214> How do I find a program on file system? For example, I want to find firefox.
[18:12] <away> Lainey41214, /usr/bin
[18:13] <Lainey41214> away thanks
[18:13] <away> $ whereis program
[18:13] <auronandace> !fhs | Lainey41214
[18:13] <Deathlire> ./usr/share/bin or /usr/bin or /usr/share/local
[18:13] <pvh_sa> Lainey41214, in general, use "which" for things in the path, "locate" for everything else
[18:14] <krabador> auronandace, if i type "sudo service lightdm restart" on tty1 i run unity again, when i would chose the desktop environment
[18:14] <llutz> if you use locate, make sure you run updatedb sometime
[18:14] <Deathlire> afk eatin
[18:14] <auronandace> krabador: you chose the desktop environment at the login screen
[18:15] <krabador> auronandace, well, how can i recall it from terminal ?
[18:15] <auronandace> krabador: its a little circle at the login screen
[18:15] <auronandace> krabador: why from the terminal?
[18:16] <krabador> auronandace, to do it faster, when i try DE installation
[18:16] <auronandace> krabador: it takes a few seconds to logout select something and login again
[18:16] <roottoor> hey y'all
[18:17] <krabador> ok, but i can't know what system does when i select "logout" from menu?
[18:18] <roottoor> I am looking for anyone that has experience in reverse engineering. of RF devices in particular
[18:18] <Deathlire> backtracker he
[18:18] <Deathlire> eh
[18:18] <auronandace> roottoor: not sure what that has to do with ubuntu
[18:18] <jacobete> i have a problem with my nvidia 9500 gt... when i play supertuxkart on a ubuntu 12.04 gnome. why my motherboard  beeps while playing????
[18:19] <auronandace> !rootirc | roottoor
[18:19] <jacobete> i have the privative nvidia installed
[18:19] <jacobete> the current version
[18:20] <Deathlire> pretty sure thats backtrack..but i do have reverse engineering experience if its for your own network
[18:20] <roottoor> well, aurondace, ubuntu has many useful apps that i have successfully used... but now its getting tedious and expensive,
[18:20] <Deathlire> how is ubuntu expensive?
[18:21] <roottoor> lol. it isnt my friend.
[18:21] <roottoor> its the man hours that are running up.
[18:21] <Deathlire> well what ya tryin to do then?
[18:22] <alch___> ok, here's a different question. i have a block device, and it has a partition table, but i don't have devices corresponding to the partitions. how can i get those? or can i mount the partitions somehow without them?
[18:22] <auronandace> roottoor: again, reverse engineering something has nothing to do with a ubuntu support channel
[18:22] <dabears2>  /msg NickServ identify asdfasdf99
[18:23] <xangua> dabears2: that sucks :P
[18:23] <roottoor> okay... its a bit of electrical engineering, a bit of coding and a lot of man hours. We install aircons all over the world....
[18:23] <Deathlire> oops lol
[18:23] <k1l> dabears2: change that password :/
[18:23] <kurteknikk> llutz, yes it suceeds
[18:23] <auronandace> dabears2: time to change your password, do that outside the channel next time
[18:23] <kurteknikk> llutz, actually that's what i was just testing heh
[18:24] <kurteknikk> llutz, what i'm suspecting is that there should be an else exit 0
[18:24] <kurteknikk> llutz, under the killall command
[18:24] <_cronus_> alch___, how about sudo kpartx -a /path/to/blockdevice
[18:24] <roottoor> and logically these aircons all have different code. So we are having to fly around like fools, reverse engineer perhaps one unit and then fly home..... this has been going on for 3 years...
[18:25] <alch___> hmm, kpartx you say
[18:25] <_cronus_> alch___, it should create partition entries under /dev/mapper/
[18:25] <alch___> i will check it out right now
[18:26] <roottoor> gtg
[18:27] <ramrebol_> i have this problem with unity (screenshot of my desktop http://goo.gl/swGnN). I don't see the bourders of my windows!  how can I fix this?
[18:28] <alch___> thank you, cronus!
[18:28] <alch___> you have saved the day
[18:28] <alch___> kpartx/partx was exactly what i was looking for
[18:29] <_cronus_> alch___, glad i could help
[18:32] <Guest1253> hello Alltogether
[18:40] <MyTallest> hello everyone
[18:42] <MyTallest> I have been banging my head against the desk for 3 hours trying to figure out how to get Unity to display a 1024.768 desktop on a 1024.600 display.  Can anyone help please?
[18:43] <auronandace> MyTallest: if i read that right then its an impossibility
[18:43] <auronandace> MyTallest: your screen is smaller than the resolution you want
[18:43] <auronandace> !pm | MyTallest
[18:44] <SaidKLE> question: I have ubuntu server running on a laptop with ubuntu-desktop for gui. How do I get wifi connections working through network manager?
[18:44] <llutz> MyTallest: that was called "Virtual" in the past and needed an entry in the display-section of cxorg.conf
[18:44] <llutz> xorg.conf*
[18:45] <SaidKLE> sorry, wrong channel...
[18:45] <llutz> MyTallest: why don't you respect what ubottu just told you about PM?
[18:45] <MyTallest> Where dose xorg.conf exist with 12.10?  It is not in /etc/X11
[18:45] <MyTallest> sorry
[18:45] <jacobete> i have uninstalleed the privative nvidia controller and my motherboard beeps
[18:45] <llutz> MyTallest: then create one
[18:46] <auronandace> !xorgconf | MyTallest
[18:46] <MyTallest> thanks!
[18:55] <SaidKLE> Question: ubuntu server with ubuntu-desktop installed for gui; network manager doesn't work, even after setting interface management to "true". How do I get network manager working like it does normally in ubuntu desktop?
[18:56] <auronandace> !netconf | SaidKLE
[18:56] <jose106> anyone know why my laptop switches off the wireless card when I unplug the power cord?
[18:57] <auronandace> !resolvconf | SaidKLE
[18:57] <jose106> I got a Latitude E6500 running ubuntu 12.10
[19:01] <ocei3ko> If Ubuntu decides to become rolling release, will the updates be when available or every week/month etc?
[19:01] <ocei3ko> Or daily, even
[19:01] <h00k> ocei3ko: we're not quite sure
[19:02] <auronandace> ocei3ko: you are asking about something that is hypothetical, nobody can answer that
[19:02] <rensvind> is there some way in ubuntu to know if the 3g modem is using 3g or 2g?  In windows I have an application that handles the internet and it tells the speed,  2g/3g etc..    but in ubuntu I see no way to know this?
[19:02] <plast1k> join  #fedora
[19:03] <jose106> anyone knows where the power manager for the wireless card is in ubuntu 12.10?
[19:08] <FerkSwe> pastebinit must be the best program ever.
[19:09] <compdoc> well, its nice when you want to paste something
[19:09] <mustu> cpu frequency scaling is craching on ubuntu 12.04
[19:11] <marc__> hello
[19:11] <jackyyll> i
[19:12] <marc__> lubuntu 12.10
[19:13] <auronandace> marc__: awesome, isn't it?
[19:13] <ioria> but there's no network icon ....
[19:15] <SaidKLE> Okay, so maybe I didn't explain myself right. I installed ubuntu-desktop on top of a fresh install of ubuntu server from usb in order to get gui. Network manager can't see wireless networks and wouldn't let me enable/disable network interfaces until I edited /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf so it would manage the interface. Still, wireless networks don't show up. I think perhaps the server way of connecting is conflicting with the
[19:15] <SaidKLE>  desktop way of connecting, but not sure.
[19:16] <SaidKLE> I looked at resolvconf, but I don't see how that would help.
[19:16] <MeXTuX> I have a mkv file and want to remove unwanted audio streams. Is there a software to get this done on Ubuntu? Thank you in advance :)
[19:17] <dodo3773> MeXTuX: mkvmerge / mkvtoolsnix
[19:18] <dodo3773> MeXTuX: mkvtoolnix*
[19:18] <mustu> indicator-cpufreq is getting crashed on my system
[19:18] <MeXTuX> dodo3773: Thank you
[19:18] <babry-khan> hi
[19:19] <ikonia> SaidKLE: why didn't you just install ubuntu desktop
[19:19] <dodo3773> MeXTuX: You're welcome. There is a gtk gui for it too called mmg
[19:19] <ikonia> SaidKLE: then it has all the desktop software and additional stuff needed for desktop applications such as wifi configuration ?
[19:19] <babry-khan> i have a problem with gnome>network>proxy
[19:20] <asking> Hello people somebody knows how to use ndiswrapper
[19:20] <ikonia> !ndiswarpper | asking
[19:20] <dodo3773> babry-khan: Do you actually mean networkmanager -> proxy? What kind of proxy is it?
[19:20] <ikonia> !ndis | asking
[19:20] <horvat> Q: Can I update my Ubuntu 12.04  64-bit, if I have installed AMD ATI Catalyst? I think I read somewhere that first I have to remove driver, and then update and then return it...
[19:21] <ikonia> horvat: did you install the driver from the driver manager tool or external source ?
[19:21] <horvat> external source, AMD site
[19:21] <dodo3773> babry-khan: What kind of wifi card? A lot of old tutorials and stuff online for ndiswrapper are depreciated with newer kernel versions. Keep that in mind
[19:21] <babry-khan> i payd for https_proxy and i cant use it in ubuntu.it is good in windows by proxifier
[19:21] <ikonia> horvat: then don't expect it to work if you upgrade
[19:21] <horvat> ok, so should i remove it first?
[19:21] <SaidKLE> I installed server because I wanted to try ubuntu server. Is desktop similar enough for a web development environment with support for tomcat7, django, php5, etc.?
[19:22] <ikonia> SaidKLE: it's identical
[19:22] <ikonia> SaidKLE: you don't need a server to do web development
[19:22] <dodo3773> horvat: What kind of wifi card? A lot of old tutorials and stuff online for ndiswrapper are depreciated with newer kernel versions. Keep that in mind
[19:22] <dodo3773> babry-khan: Last message was meant for horvat sorry
[19:22] <SaidKLE> kk, will reinstall desktop, thanks for help.
[19:22] <horvat> hehe :)
[19:22] <babry-khan> ok
[19:23] <dodo3773> babry-khan: does your proxy work in a web browser? good place to test first
[19:23] <horvat> ok thanks folks :)
[19:23] <bitblt> I'm trying to do a preseed for precise. For whatever reason, when I specify choose_interface select eth0, it doesn't work. I have two interfaces eth0, and eth1. I've also try doing just auto, but that doesn't work either. Does anyone know if I am doing this wrong?
[19:23] <k1lled_> Q: how can i change this: martin@martin-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC:~$  i forgot to remove "HP-Pavilion-dv6...." , and btw my english is really bad.
[19:24] <ikonia> !hostname | k1lled_
[19:24] <babry-khan> i used foxyproxy but there is not https obtions
[19:24] <dodo3773> k1lled_: you mean your bash prompt?
[19:24] <k1lled_> dodo3773:  yes
[19:24] <raj> how can I see the partition scheme on my machine?
[19:24] <k1lled_> is a soooo long,
[19:24] <ikonia> raj: use a tool like gparted
[19:24] <dodo3773> k1lled_: Do you have a file in your home directory called .bashrc ?
[19:25] <k1lled_> dodo3773:  nope
[19:25] <xenokiller> hello someone know if it possible to write to a /dev file to play sound in ubuntu
[19:25] <raj> ikonia, raj@raj-ubuntu:~$ gparted
[19:25] <raj> Inhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon
[19:25] <dodo3773> k1lled_: Create one
[19:25] <ikonia> raj: gkauso gparted
[19:26] <dodo3773> k1lled_: Then inside the new file you create declare a variable called: PS1
[19:26] <ikonia> dodo3773: it's set from the hostname - change the hostname, not the PS1 prompt
[19:26] <dodo3773> ikonia: Why not just change your PS1 ?
[19:26] <ikonia> dodo3773: because then it's out of sync with his hostname
[19:26] <raj> ikonia, what's gkauso
[19:26] <raj> ?
[19:26] <ikonia> and he seems to want the hostname, but with a bit cut out
[19:26] <k1lled_> and the last?
[19:26] <ikonia> raj: sudo for gui's
[19:27] <raj> command not found
[19:27] <raj> I remember something else to do sudo for guis
[19:27] <ikonia> raj: what version of ubuntu are you using
[19:27] <babry-khan> also i try this in setting>network>proxy>manual>https_proxy : "user:pass@host:443"
[19:27] <raj> oh, gksudo
[19:27] <dodo3773> ikonia: I never display my host / username in my PS1 but that's just me I guess. Okay I will ask OP
[19:27] <ikonia> raj: sorry, I made a typo
[19:28] <dodo3773> k1lled_: Do you want to change the hostname on your system? Or just the prompt when you open a terminal?
[19:29] <k1lled_> if when i change hostname, prompt will be change too, i want hostname change
[19:30] <k1lled_> dodo3773:  /home/martin here i make a file with name:  .bashrc
[19:30] <k1lled_> right ?
[19:30] <k1lled_> sry but my english is a bad
[19:32] <dodo3773> k1lled_: Oh okay. Yeah you do not need .bashrc for that. I misunderstood you're question.
[19:32] <dodo3773> ikonia: Take over ^^
[19:32] <k1lled_> dodo3773:  ok, how i can change that hostname
[19:32] <babry-khan> sombody help me !
[19:32] <ikonia> dodo3773: already given him the info
[19:32] <ikonia> !hostname | k1lled_
[19:33] <k1lled_> !hostname
[19:36] <dodo3773> babry-khan: You are using networkmanager right?
[19:39] <babry-khan> hello again
[19:39] <grendal> can someone help me set up a local printer to share to my rdp cleints?
[19:40] <grendal> i have set the printer to shared...im using ubuntu12.04 as the rdp client "remmina"
[19:40] <grendal> im rdping to a winxp machine in the other room
[19:41] <grendal> i have a printer usb plugged into the ubuntu desktop and i can print to it..im assuming i need to set up sharing of the printer..wich i thought i had done correctly
[19:41] <babry-khan> is there any way to setup ubuntu for using https_proxy like proxifier in windows ?
[19:42] <NewbieBodhi> I'm trying to overclock my Geforce FX 5900 ZT with CoolBits
[19:42] <NewbieBodhi> if /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exists, this means, that i have not the right driver???
[19:42] <dodo3773> babry-khan: Are you trying to use the proxy system wide?
[19:42] <chaox> can wget be used to grab a .jpeg image from a link locally?
[19:42] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: no it doesn't mean that
[19:43] <babry-khan> yes
[19:43] <NewbieBodhi> and what does it mean?
[19:43] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: it means it's autodetecting because you've not hardcoded any settings in the xorg.conf
[19:43] <dodo3773> babry-khan: How did you try to set it before?
[19:43] <NewbieBodhi> and what can i do ikonia?
[19:43] <josecar5> el puto amo
[19:44] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: in respect to what ?
[19:44] <NewbieBodhi> my instructions say that i have to insert the line  Option "Coolbits" "1" in the Device section
[19:44] <josecar5> el puto crak
[19:44] <dodo3773> babry-khan: Does ubuntu come with a program called "gnome-control-center" or similar for handling all this stuff? What happens if you just open the search and type "proxy"?
[19:45] <NewbieBodhi> sudo su
[19:45] <NewbieBodhi> ups, wrong window
[19:45] <babry-khan> in gnome settings>network>proxy>manual>https_proxy field , set it by this pattern "user : pas@host:443"
[19:45] <josecar5> in spain please
[19:45] <NewbieBodhi> ikonia: my instructions say that i have to insert the line  Option "Coolbits" "1" in the Device section
[19:45] <logicbuffer> Having an issue on 12.10 with DNS (I think..): I can browse the web just fine, update the system, etc. but after a little bit Chromium will hang on sending request and pages won't load, I won't be able to apt-get update and it'll hang on one download, etc. I've changed DNS in Network Manager to Google's DNS to try that, the same issue occurs. Ideas?
[19:45] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: to be honest - I'd strongly advise you not to try to do this, but if you want to you need to create an xorg.conf
[19:46] <NewbieBodhi> then logout and restart X with alt+E and then type nvidia-settings
[19:46] <NewbieBodhi> what way would you recommend, ikonia?
[19:46] <babry-khan> i do it but this is not worked
[19:48] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: not overclocking your card
[19:50] <NewbieBodhi> and how to watch FullHD Videos, without overclocking my card?
[19:51] <FerkSwe> I have this slight problem where ubuntu keeps reverting my keyboard setttings back to english. I keep setting it to swedish, but it doesn't seem to save.
[19:51] <FerkSwe> Any ideas why+_
[19:51] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: I don't believe overclocking will help you
[19:51] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: I suspect you're not using the nvidia-propritary drivers,
[19:51] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: I'd look at fixing that
[19:52] <dodo3773> NewbieBodhi: FullHD videos? Overclocking your card should not be related to this really in any way. Not unless your computer is really really old
[19:54] <babry-khan> i was read the manual for openssl,ssh,proxychains,... no one support https protocol
[19:54] <raj> ext4 is the way to go?
[19:56] <k1l> raj: yes
[19:56] <raj> k
[19:56] <raj> cool
[19:56] <raj> thanks
[20:01] <ow> What command reveals the package that has caused a file in /usr/bin to exist?
[20:02] <trism> ow: dpkg -S /usr/bin/filename
[20:02] <wildc4rd> Would anyone know how to get speedstepping/CPU scaling  working on ubuntu?
[20:02] <ow> awesome, ty
[20:03] <samjd101> hello?
[20:04] <emash> hello!
[20:04] <babry-khan> hello
[20:05] <samjd101> anybody here familiar with preload?
[20:05] <jim8888> does 12.04 network-manager use dnsmasq?
[20:06] <jim8888> is it integrated into network-manager?
[20:06] <samjd101> yes
[20:06] <samjd101> its running by default
[20:07] <jim8888> so how come i was able to install the dnsmasq package? is this something different?
[20:07] <john__> How to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying.
[20:09] <samjd101> have you tried disabling it in the shortcuts menu?
[20:09] <raj> does this look okay? http://i.imgur.com/grJe2i0.png
[20:09] <NewbieBodhi> dodo3773: my computer is only about 12years old, ikonia: so i was right, that i haven't the right drivers?
[20:10] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: I don't know - you need to check,
[20:11] <samjd101> yes raj it looks fine
[20:11] <NewbieBodhi> and how to find out which driver is installed?
[20:11] <rensvind> If I configure a firewall with gufw,  will the settings remain if I quit the program? Or do I need it to be running?
[20:11] <jigal> i am looking for a good manual to install direct admin on ubuntu server anyone?
[20:11] <raj> thanks samjd101
[20:12] <ikonia> NewbieBodhi: well as you've not got an xorg.conf I suspect it's falling back to something else, check if you have the nvidia module loaded
[20:13] <babry-khan> dodo3773 : do u know what shuld i do?
[20:13] <samjd101> too see your drivers type this lshw -c video
[20:14] <samjd101> im assuming its the video drivers
[20:14] <xenokiller> hello someone know de /dev sound file name
[20:15] <Hawkerz> gustav_, https://github.com/amonakov/primus#issues-under-compositing-wms
[20:15] <samjd101> xenokiller: /dev/audio0
[20:16] <samjd101> but it may vary
[20:16] <NewbieBodhi> I have nouveau driver
[20:16] <man_lub> WHERE CAN I GET MY LITTLE PONY UBUNTU DESKTOP
[20:17] <IdleOne> the internet, lower caps please
[20:17] <samjd101> man_lub: not sure what you mean or if you actually want a valid answer?
[20:18] <jigal> how do I install direct admin
[20:18] <NewbieBodhi> I have a Nvidia GeForce 5900 ZT, which driver should i install?
[20:19] <samjd101> jigal: direct admin isnt supported for ubuntu yet i think
[20:20] <jigal> hmmmmmmmmmm
[20:20] <jigal> ok
[20:20] <samjd101> it only supports older releases of debian not the one ubuntu is based on
[20:21] <jigal> no good
[20:21] <jigal> for me
[20:22] <IdleOne> NewbieBodhi: try #bodhilinux   for support with bodhi linux
[20:22] <NewbieBodhi> i'm talking in #bodhilinux
[20:23] <NewbieBodhi> but i thought maybe someone here can help me
[20:23] <xenokiller> samjd101 file dont exist in ubuntu 12
[20:23] <IdleOne> ok, well bodhi is not supported in here
[20:23] <samjd101> if you really need direct admin try a diff distro
[20:23] <NewbieBodhi> btw. you know my operating system because i telled you my video driver?
[20:24] <IdleOne> I know because I am partly psychic and your nickname suggests it also
[20:24] <jhg> hello guys. Who can help with hostapd?
[20:24] <NewbieBodhi> oh, of course
[20:24] <IdleOne> NewbieBodhi: in any case #ubuntu does not support bodhi, please use the proper support channel for your distro
[20:24] <NewbieBodhi> but i think my problem isn't very related to the GUI?
[20:25] <IdleOne> NewbieBodhi: We can't help with other distros.
[20:25] <February> How to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying. I am using Ubuntu 12.10.
[20:25] <IdleOne> NewbieBodhi: you might try ##linux if you want general linux help
[20:26] <securebot> in all new distros is nvidia drivers problem
[20:27] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you can also actually run nvidia-settings in the new bumblebee, but you can't specify primus as the bridge: optirun nvidia-settings -c :8
[20:27] <samjd1011> February: i disabled it through settings/keyboard/shortcuts -> navigation
[20:27] <samjd1011> jigal: try phpmyadmin
[20:30] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Which is new?
[20:30] <josh_> Hi
[20:31] <samjd1011> hello
[20:31] <josh_> How may i resolve a unsatisfiable dependency?
[20:31] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I never got nvidia settings to run
[20:31] <josh_> how to satisfy this dependency libsfml-network1.5
[20:32] <February> samjd1011: that disabled alt+tab. I just want to get rid of grouping.
[20:32] <February> actually it doesn't seem to do anything
[20:32] <February> alt tab still works for me
[20:32] <February> i'm on unity btw
[20:33] <josh_> clibsfml-network1.5
[20:33] <MoPac> Is there any successful workaround for the bug where edge flipping stops working?
[20:33] <gustav_> Hawkerz: That's gonna be a day I will cherish.
[20:33] <babry-khan> hello please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...
[20:33] <josh_> Excuse me?
[20:33] <josh_> I need help resolving a dependancy while installing vba m
[20:34] <samjd1011> February: try alt+superkey(windows key)
[20:34] <josh_> Hello?
[20:34] <boba88> hi
[20:34] <josh_> @sam help here
[20:34] <DeamonStorm> Hi
[20:34] <DeamonStorm> Im having a serious issue.
[20:34] <josh_> @sam i need help
[20:34] <samjd1011> josh try installng the dependencies manyally with synaptic package manager
[20:34] <boba88> i cannot link against glew properly
[20:34] <josh_> k
[20:34] <josh_> will do
[20:35] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I'm telling you, you can run nvidia settings to configure
[20:35] <samjd1011> or else try adding the repository and then apt-get update
[20:35] <DeamonStorm> I have just installed Ubuntu, the latest from the website. Now, it runs fine from the CD, but when I install it, every window I open freezes and eventually, the whole OS freezes.
[20:35] <trism> josh_: last release to have that version (that is still supported) is 10.04, all current releases have 1.6
[20:36] <MoPac> Deos anyone have pointer edge flipping for workspaces successfully working?
[20:36] <josh_> @trism using a program that needs it
[20:36] <DeamonStorm> Ive had to boot from the CD to get here. Im running live from the CD now...or I otherwise would not be here.
[20:36] <moataz> need help about aircrack
[20:36] <samjd1011> moataz: try the hacking channel
[20:37] <moataz> name pl]z ?
[20:37] <moataz> !aircrack
[20:37] <josh_> trism: the program requires it
[20:37] <DeamonStorm> So yeah, Im at a loss.
[20:37] <samjd1011> DeamonStorm: i think it might be your drivers
[20:37] <moataz> !trism
[20:37] <securebot> moataz : google
[20:37] <trism> josh_: understand that, just tell you it isn't there unless you use 10.04 or build it yourself. or ask the person who makes the software to rebuild for 1.6
[20:37] <babry-khan> samjd1011: am i asking in rong chanel?
[20:38] <moataz> #ubuntu-hack
[20:38] <DeamonStorm> @sam well, if I cant use the windows I open how on earth am I gonna get this working?
[20:38] <josh_> trism: thanks will do
[20:38] <February> samjd1011: alt+windows key does nothing
[20:38] <josh_> trism: is there any way i can skip the dependency
[20:38] <moataz> is there any wirless cracker with gui
[20:38] <moataz> ?
[20:38] <samjd1011> oh yea its windowskey+tab
[20:39] <DeamonStorm> Do you need a run down of my rig?
[20:39] <samjd1011> moataz: fern wifi cracker and your still in the wrong channel
[20:39] <trism> josh_: a variety of ways, but I wouldn't recommend it
[20:40] <josh_> trism: found a newer package
[20:41] <boba88> #linux
[20:41] <DeamonStorm> I mean, I tried to open up the settings window but, it froze literally within seconds.
[20:41] <moataz> samjd1011: what is the right one ?
[20:41] <Stefano2> saluti a tutti
[20:42] <Stefano2> Qualcuno che mi da una mano con i puntatori in c?
[20:42] <securebot> kalbek amerikoniskai
[20:42] <boba88> i cannot link against glew properly
[20:43] <samjd1011> moataz: try #hacking or something
[20:43] <boba88> i can link against it under ubuntu 10.04 32 bit, but not under Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit
[20:43] <DeamonStorm> Any ideas how to proceed?
[20:44] <samjd1011> DeamonStorm: i would suggest burning the image file again to a disk with a chosen speed of 8x this might fix it, otherwise its your drivers
[20:45] <DeamonStorm> Well, lets say its the drivers, exactly what do I do about that?
[20:45] <RobbyF> I read back a bit, I think I had that issue with a friends computer
[20:45] <RobbyF> was the drivers
[20:45] <samjd1011> DeamonStorm: are you using nvidia?
[20:46] <DeamonStorm> ATI
[20:46] <DeamonStorm> AMD 8150 8 core CPU, 7970 HD 3GB, 12GB Corsair Veangence RAM.
[20:46] <samjd1011> DeamonStorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:47] <compdoc> thats an odd amount of ram
[20:47] <babry-khan> ////////////////////////   CAN YOU HEAR ME!    this is my first irc chat so please lead me where should i ask my quetion?
[20:47] <DeamonStorm> Was 16, but one of the sticks went faulty.
[20:48] <DeamonStorm> Okay, I cant get the repositories. I cant get to anything because the windows are freezing.
[20:48] <samjd1011> is ubuntu being installed to a partition
[20:48] <DeamonStorm> No, I clean installed.
[20:48] <MoPac> babry-khan: What is your question?
[20:48] <DeamonStorm> Is there a shortcut for the terminal?
[20:49] <babry-khan> hello please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...
[20:49] <samjd1011> ctrl+alt+t
[20:50] <ubuntu> this ubuntu support?
[20:50] <DeamonStorm> Sooo, Im best doing a command line install by the looks of it.
[20:50] <wjtaylor> How can I get the normal scroll bars back?
[20:51] <moataz> !cmhod
[20:51] <samjd1011> try something other than unity and see if that works
[20:51] <nicktopus> d
[20:52] <Guest58905> I am stuck with little problem... i tried installing ubuntu from seprate partition without doing research.. well i have managed to delete all boot loaders except what happens to boot the usb installer for ubuntu.. well i try installing ubuntu and seems installer is on same volume as partition im trying to install it to it wont pass "detecting filesystems" on the installer... any tips???
[20:52] <Guest58905> seprate patitions but same drive
[20:53] <lnakot> Is there some package, to create encrypted filesystem remotely, i.e. decryption should be done on client machine
[20:53] <nicktopus> Am I Burt Reynolds?
[20:54] <samjd1011> Guest58905: i had the same problem try boot repair disk www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/
[20:54] <MoPac> lnakot: do you mean like putting an encrypted folder on a network attached storage or in Dropbox?
[20:54] <Guest58905> samjd1011:  no blank disk no usb sticks which is why i tried using partitions?
[20:54] <MoPac> lnakot: encfs / cryptkeepr can do that
[20:55] <babry-khan> MoPac----------please help me , i payed for https-proxy account.it is working perfectly in windows using Proxifier.i cant setup ubuntu-proxy or firefox-proxy to use it. i test openssl ssh proxychains stunnel & ...
[20:55] <samjd1011> ok bootinto whatever you can and get a terminal up then try to reinstall grub
[20:56] <Guest58905> samjd1011:  how would i install grub from terminal? if i could do that grub may possibly read windows partition?
[20:56] <cbar> nice
[20:56] <Guest58905> samjd1011:  nvm i'll google my bad :P
[20:57] <lnakot> MoPac: I mean to move computation from server to client. So that I can just do some dd if= of= obs=1024MB my_encrypted_file  on my NAS, and then use it on client computer, with relatively small performance drawbacks (because NAS will not compute anything)
[20:57] <samjd1011> Guest58905: sudo update-grub
[20:57] <Guest58905> command not found im running on live cd
[20:57] <Guest58905> off a partition on the hard drive
[20:57] <lnakot> MoPac: so it may be what you saying as you mentioned NAS
[20:58] <FerkSwe> Hey! I'm giving a kernel upgrade a first try, and I ran into some problems. I ran dpkg -i  on my headers, first the one ending in all.deb, which went smooth, and now my amd64 which spits out an error
[20:58] <FerkSwe> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.8.2-030802-generic is not supported
[20:58] <FerkSwe> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.2-030802-generic (x86_64)
[20:58] <FerkSwe> Consult /var/lib/dkms/alsa-hda/0.201303081653~quantal1/build/make.log for more information.
[20:58] <samjd1011> Guest58905: have you still got your ubuntu disk?
[20:58] <FerkSwe> The log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/
[20:58] <DeamonStorm> Okay, time to see if this works.
[20:58] <FerkSwe> Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[20:58] <samjd1011> DeamonStorm: good luck
[20:59] <Guest58905> samjd1011:  didn't have disk tried installing off partition on hard drive simular to doing off flash drive
[20:59] <Guest58905> it's all i can boot into is the live cd
[21:00] <samjd1011> Guest58905: ok follow this guide http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[21:00] <Guest58905> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[21:00] <passion> Hello I have a question nothing to do with ubuntu but I am hoping someone from the FOS much smarter than me can help answer a security question?
[21:01] <Artemius_> Hi guys I want to ask something
[21:01] <samjd1011> go ahead passion
[21:01] <Artemius_> I watched TPB AFK
[21:01] <Artemius_> and I am wondering which command they use at that screen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eTOKXCEwo_8#t=1496s
[21:01] <passion> DONT GO THERE
[21:02] <passion> This is the problem I am having
[21:02] <babry-khan> آنان که خاک را به نظر کیمیا کنند     آیا بود که گوشه چشمی به ما دارند؟!
[21:02] <babry-khan> baba!
[21:02] <passion> There are DMCC, GOV, FOX bot infesting free software sites, TBP, and any torrent forum I  have vistied
[21:03] <moataz> how to run apps as root ?
[21:03] <MoPac> lnakot: sorry for the disconnect.  If you have encrypted files or an encrypted filesystem on a NAS, I don't see that you have to do anything special to move "the computation" to the client
[21:03] <Extreme> moataz: use 'sudo'
[21:03] <MoPac> lnakot: the client computer is always doing the actual decryption.
[21:03] <cbar> or gksudo for gui
[21:03] <cbar> ?
[21:04] <hagis> nautilus is slow on displaying the home folder. jumping to other folders directly is fast. any idea? (12.04)
[21:04] <MoPac> lnakot: unless you have a fancy NAS that is advertising to you that it decrypts its own files for you and sends them to client in plaintext?
[21:05] <FerkSwe> Anyone got any idea on my kernel problem?
[21:05] <samjd1011> hagis: its to do do with the personalised folder icons
[21:05] <hagis> no
[21:05] <MoPac> lnakot: even if that is the case, that decryption step is transparent to you.  If you want to not have the NAS send or receive any plaintext data (even over SSL, say), then you can add an encfs folder or a Truecrypt container onto the NAS, controlled by the client. Then, if the NAS has its own encryption, you can use it or not -- if would just be an extra layer.
[21:06] <passion> Someone Kick Aremtius that is just the same thing happend to me I saw some questionable activty on a website that had to do with the TBP, some guy was urging people to go to GOOGLE site to watch a video..and there was no video at all ... I think they are after my ip addresse?
[21:06] <MoPac> The important thing in such a setup would be to make sure that the mount point of the encrypted folder(s) is local rather than on the NAS
[21:06] <Guest58905> well lets see how bad of a set back this is
[21:06] <hagis> samjd1011: how can i disable default icons?
[21:06] <passion> I havent used  torrentz site in years but whatever going on is some serious sh*t
[21:06] <MoPac> lnakot: actually, what I said last might not be true: it may not matter what the mount point is because of how the file manager handles the transactions
[21:07] <FerkSwe> passion, That was a youtube link to the movie TPB AFK, watching it right now.
[21:07] <Guest63637> hola
[21:08] <lnakot> MoPac: cool. In my case it's not about sending plaintext via network, but about having a NAS that has minimal CPU power
[21:08] <jhutchins_wk> passion: You know that the tinfoil hat just attracts the brain control waves, righ?
[21:08] <newvicious> exit
[21:08] <MoPac> lnakot:  Does your NAS have a feature to encrypt its own files?
[21:08] <lnakot> MoPac: no
[21:09] <lnakot> but I have ssh access, it's some debian on ARM
[21:09] <FerkSwe> passion, And unless you use a vpn, or just spoof it, your IP is freely available with a simple /whois
[21:09] <MoPac> lnakot: Okay, then you really don't have anything to worry about CPU-wise.  What will happen is that you will put a TrueCrypt container or encfs folder on the NAS, and that will hold the encrypted content.  Using a client program like TrueCrypt or encfs/Cryptkeeper, you will "mount" the remote file or folder.
[21:09] <samjd1011> hagis: use dcong-editor
[21:10] <rohdef> I've installed 12.10 along a win 7 uefi, grub didn't show any options, so I did a boot-repair, now I got windows detected, but it doesn't work
[21:10] <samjd1011> hagis: dconf-editor
[21:10] <rohdef> what can I do?
[21:10] <lnakot> MoPac: is there a risk of corrupting the container because of network down times?
[21:10] <passion> well i was told to go to google.doc site to watch a movie and how to get around something.. knowwingly that google doc doesn't host video files and I clicked it again
[21:10] <emash> why are you guys talk about encryption so much? what is it you are encrypting all the time, i'm just curious
[21:10] <passion> just weird coincidence
[21:11] <ArchBeOS>  anyone here know how to take icons away from the Unity Apps lens? I have a ton of WINE apps installed and their icons overwhelm my Apps Lense
[21:11] <MoPac> lnakot: When mounted, a folder will appear somewhere you specify, and that will show you plaintext contents.  Whenever you read or write in that plaintext folder, your local CPU will pull or push the relevant encrypted data over the network connection: the plaintext-ness of it is an illusion and all in your RAM
[21:12] <emash> and ip adresses, i own an andress, but it's tracable only to my city and not further, no names whatsoever. or... impress me
[21:12] <MoPac> lnakot: I don't think there's too much risk of that, but in any case you can easily back up.  For TrueCrypt volumes, you can make a backup of the volume header. So if the header ever gets corrupted, you can just restore it.  For encfs folders, there is a file in the folder called ".encfs"  that you can back up and restore if something goes wrong
[21:12] <lnakot> cool
[21:12] <passion> I am on torrentfreakz.com and I am seeing the same kind of stuff- people talking out of order, telling them to visiit links, etc.  it's look so unatural you can just smell something fishy going on.  I wasn't the only one who noticed and called them out.
[21:13] <LL_> Anyone know where I can get help with Prolog?
[21:13] <MoPac> lnakot: Keep in mind that encrypted data is written in blocks that are decrypted with the private key.  So if a block gets corrupted because of a network error, it doesn't affect other blocks.  In reality, I don't think it's much more dangerous than corruption of a plaintext file
[21:13] <passion> please google working to get rid of proxy and thing just linking to TPB
[21:13] <lnakot> that is really nice
[21:13] <passion> I didn't know linking was illegal?!?
[21:13] <lnakot> MoPac: TrueCrypt will work on windows & linux?
[21:14] <MoPac> lnakot: Yes, TrueCrypt will work.  Question: are you also going to be backing up the encrypted data that is on the NAS?
[21:14] <MoPac> lnakot: (e.g., I have encrypted data on my NAS, and I also use my cloud backup program to upload that encrypted data in case soemthing happens to my NAS or the files get corrupted))
[21:14] <lnakot> MoPac: not sure, but there's a plenty of space there, so I might backup some volume
[21:15] <passion> I just want to know what website I can find a proxy that not being traked.  I dont' know too much about this stuff ...but it would be kind if someone can help me find a prxoy
[21:15] <lnakot> MoPac: nice
[21:16] <lnakot> so I was thinking about doing backup of container file, on the NAS. I.e. cp container container-`date`. To protect against network problems. Cloud would protect against other situations
[21:16] <MoPac> lnakot: So, there's a tradeoff you have to look at.  With TrueCrypt, the whole encrypted volume is one big file.  Depending on how sophisticated your backup program is, if you change one little thing on it, it might then start the backup all over again.  (Some programs work at the block level and will figure out as they go that they don't have to do this)
[21:16] <passion> I wont talk no more tinfoil hat just need a way to stop people from geting my IP
[21:16] <Gnea> passion: well that's just offtopic here
[21:16] <leei_> Hi all can anyone help with problems with PulseAudio ?
[21:17] <samjd1011> yea leei
[21:17] <lb27> !ask | leei_
[21:17] <passion> but asking someone to view a piratebayvideo is not?
[21:17] <Gnea> passion: actually, in here, it is. you should ask in #freenode instead.
[21:17] <emash> passion your ip is 96.27.11.195
[21:17] <MoPac> lnakot: With encfs, that is not a problem.  The whole folder and file structure is visible, and each individual file is encrypted by itself.  So if you change one file, your backup routine will know that it only needs to re-back-up that one file.  BUT I have had a speed problem with writing to encfs on my NAS samba share.  See my report at https://code.google.com/p/encfs/issues/detail?id=161&q=SAM
[21:17] <MoPac> sorry https://code.google.com/p/encfs/issues/detail?id=161&q=SAMBA
[21:17] <emash> who cares anyway?
[21:18] <passion> I care because I often visit bittorrent sites
[21:19] <Gnea> !offtopic | passion
[21:19] <leei_> I have tried various Linux Distributions, Mageia 2, Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, Mint 14, Manjaro 0.8.4 and Open Suse 12.2  I can get the 5.1 surround sound working the the sound loops and sounds like a machine gun and the words just repeat like right or left etc when testing the speakers and on bootup on Ubuntu the sound does the same thing.  If I change to only use two speakers sound works correctly.
[21:19] <FerkSwe> Anyone able to help me "decipher" this log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/ Came from running dpkg -i on 3.8.2 headers for amd64
[21:19] <samjd1011> emash and passion can you take this somewhere else?
[21:19] <escott> rohdef, what grub do you have installed? the efi or bios version
[21:19] <lnakot> MoPac: the samba share is on linux? or maybe encfs supports windows?
[21:19] <Gnea> passion: although I doubt you'll get good help on your query there... so try #freenode instead
[21:19] <FerkSwe> passion, If you wanna stay hidden, get a vpn like swissvpn or ipredator <- I like that one
[21:20] <MoPac> lnakot: this is a samba share that I have mounted in ubuntu.  the CIFS program in ubuntu works fine with this
[21:20] <MoPac> lnakot: Although there also IS an encfs program for windows, which I also use on my Windows side since I dual boot.  http://members.ferrara.linux.it/freddy77/encfs.html
[21:21] <rohdef> escott, to be quite honest I don't know, I think it's bios now, followed the instructions at the second answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/208286/efi-gpt-dual-boot-quantal-amd64-impossible-boot-windows-7
[21:21] <passion> ok before you guy ban me.  I am running a mac with win on bootcamp since it's impossible to install linux on it I am going to try a VM .. but I also want to use it to install lamp and learn how to code.  I already downloaded the server version of ubntu is that a good choice or no?
[21:21] <FerkSwe> passion, It is possible to run linux on a mac
[21:22] <passion> I read the doc, I am not a computer scientiest
[21:22] <sefsef> and the server version is fine to run
[21:22] <FerkSwe> What kinda mac you got?
[21:22] <samjd1011>  passion: try xamp if your using mac os x is unix based anyway
[21:22] <passion> mac mini
[21:22] <Gnea> passion: you just need to know how to read and understand what it is saying, it doesn't take a scientist to know how to do that (many actually do not)
[21:22] <rohdef> escott, but that setup doesn't show win at all :/
[21:22] <escott> rohdef, well if its bios its wrong, and you wont be able to boot windows. check with dpkg -l "*grub*"
[21:23] <passion> i was told for development linux is better want to learn PHP MSYQL and J.NODE
[21:23] <FerkSwe> passion, Even I have managed to install ubuntu on a mac, and I can't even upgrade my kernel
[21:24] <passion> tripple boot?
[21:24] <FerkSwe> Dual
[21:24] <Sonderblade> what do you use to debug whether 3d drivers and dri are setup and working correctly? glxgears doesn't really work for that purpose anymore
[21:24] <FerkSwe> Running Ubuntu natively next to mac os
[21:24] <passion> i have windows running too
[21:24] <rohdef> escott, un grub-efi and grub-efi-amg64 :/ I assume that means bios
[21:24] <FerkSwe> passion, What version of mac mini do you have?
[21:25] <escott> rohdef, efi is efi, efi is not bios. if it says efi it is efi
[21:26] <rohdef> escott, but doesn't un mean that it has unpacked the files but not installed?
[21:26] <February> How to I get rid of this grouping when I ALT+TAB? I Googled and apparently I am supposed to enable something called "Static window switching" or something in Compiz's setting manager, but that option isn't there. Anything else I can do? The default is pretty inane and extremely annoying.
[21:27] <FerkSwe> February, Ping me if you find a solution!
[21:27] <rohdef> escott, I have ii grub-pc
[21:27] <escott> rohdef, you should not have the bios version of grub installed aka "grub-pc" you should have the efi version installed
[21:27] <escott> rohdef, so that is wrong and probably the source of your problems
[21:27] <samjd1011> February: if you hate it so much and cant find a solution just get rid of unity
[21:28] <escott> rohdef, now i get what you were typing "un grub-efi" you mean "un" as the first part of the dpkg output
[21:28] <FerkSwe> samjd1011, It's present in Gnome 3 too
[21:28] <escott> rohdef, so remove grub-pc, install grub-efi, run grub-install and hopefully it works
[21:28] <rohdef> escott, sorry :) I'm typing from another computer, so didn't copy paste the line
[21:29] <rohdef> escott, I think that's the original setup from before I did what the page I linked said :/
[21:29] <leei_> What channel can use to get support on Pulse Audio and Ubuntu 12.10
[21:30] <escott> rohdef, if your windows is efi then your linux needs to be efi as well.
[21:31] <FerkSwe> Does this mean anything to someone? make[2]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/alsa-hda/0.201303081653~quantal1/build/patch_analog.o] Error 1
[21:31] <escott> rohdef, it should be obvious what windows expects by checking the partition table with sudo parted -l. if it is gpt and has an efi partition then it is an efi system
[21:31] <xangua> February: what ubuntu version¿ i see the static plugin on 12.04 http://i.imgur.com/2SRBZUj.png
[21:31] <escott> FerkSwe, there was an error when trying to make patch_analog.o
[21:32] <rohdef> escott, did the install, grub-install says something with source_dir don't exist
[21:32] <FerkSwe> escott, Okay... It continued with two more errors lines. Trying to upgrade my kernal from 3.5 to 3.8
[21:32] <rohdef> escott, the parteed one says gpt at the partition table, so efi it is
[21:33] <escott> rohdef, just because the table is gpt doesn't mean it is efi, although windows doesn't support bios boots on gpt disks
[21:33] <rohdef> escott, although the drive with the linux use msdos
[21:33] <rohdef> escott, the file systems is fat32 and ntfs
[21:33] <escott> rohdef, if you are efi then all your disks should be gpt. you can convert with gdisk utility
[21:34] <rohdef> escott, the fat32 is names EFI system partition
[21:34] <escott> rohdef, that sure sounds like efi
[21:34] <escott> rohdef, i've not yet seen an efi crossboot but presumably having both disks gpt is a good idea
[21:35] <rohdef> escott, ok, how would I do that?
[21:35] <escott> !info gdisk | rohdef
[21:35] <leei_>  When setting up 5.1 sound the sound loops and sounds like a machine gun and the words just repeat like right or left etc when testing the speakers and on bootup on Ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04 the sound Loops.  If I change to only use two speakers sound works correctly. Please advise
[21:35] <rohdef> escott, ok, will is keep my data?
[21:36] <escott> rohdef, yes
[21:36] <escott> rohdef, (used properly of course)
[21:36] <_ultimate> i am looking for some help with locking the id of 2 omnikey readers after the reboot of ubuntu, i have read that this can be done via udev, does anyone have any ideas, Thanks
[21:36] <rohdef> escott, will try then, thanks
[21:36] <emash> guys i have a 160 gb win 7 partition and i want ubuntu installed alongside. which size would be ebough for me?
[21:37] <securebot> 30GB
[21:37] <escott> emash, i would not go smaller than about 10GB
[21:37] <emash> so if a go for say 30gigs how much space will be availible for ubuntu software?
[21:40] <FerkSwe> I'm trying to update my kernel but get stuck with ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-7-generic is not supported
[21:40] <FerkSwe> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.7.0-7-generic (x86_64)
[21:40] <FerkSwe>  and this log to go along with it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603129/ Any ideas why?
[21:41] <FerkSwe> Alsa not compatible with 3.7 kernel?
[21:41] <_ultimate> anyone know where i can read about udev and how to fix serial device ids?
[21:41] <sefsef> have not heard that about alsa
[21:41] <_ultimate> or how to fix pcsc device id's
[21:41] <stunts513> can anyone here help me with well i guess its kinda just a general linux problem im having in ubuntu involving my lack of knowledge on the sed command?
[21:42] <_ultimate> when ever i reboot the id's change and then i have to start un pluggint and re plugging the devices
[21:42] <FerkSwe> sefsef, Seems strange indeed, but the make fails when it reaches it.
[21:42] <catwiesel> stunts513: What is it?
[21:42] <FerkSwe> sefsef, But I shouldn't say too much, I have no clue what I'm really doing
[21:43] <stunts513> well its not so much tryin gto get it to d omsethign as im crosscompiling ffmpeg using a script i modified for my purpose i found on github and theres a sed command running at the end of it that always has an error
[21:43] <stunts513> i do some bash but im not very familiar with sed
[21:44] <stunts513> heres the line of coding: sed  -i '.ori' 's/CONFIGURATION.*$/CONFIGURATION \" \"/g' config.h
[21:44] <passion> Is windows becoming more transparent and OS I was offered a link to 30 day class- and at the end they would be able to waive my fee.  And I dont have win8 so I am not sure to do it.  They said to get to build and get in appstore all I need to know is html5 ..and this is for both the phone and the OS
[21:44] <catwiesel> Sounds heavy.
[21:44] <February> catwiesel: is everything heavy in the future
[21:44] <stunts513> i more or less just want to know what that even does
[21:44] <catwiesel> Huh?
[21:45] <stunts513> because i dont know if its realted to that command not running right but when i compiel i eventually run into a error
[21:45] <passion> Sponsoring workshops to build open sourse HTML5 app doens't sound like something MS would
[21:45] <psichas> hi all
[21:45] <OerHeks> passion how is this related to ubuntu support ?
[21:45] <coolmanlg> am trying to setup a local dns server for practice on my laptop with guide from help.ubuntu.com and am not sure about where to put the zone definition. It says to define it in /etc/bind/named.conf.local. But I see definitions in /etc/bind/named.conf.default-zones.
[21:48] <passion> I don't know there both about operate systems, I am asking about free software, I am in a chat room.  I am in a IRS chat room so that means I am bored.  I would llike to shoot the shit with you about ubuntu but I am sure you guys know everything I know about it.
[21:48] <PatrickDickey> passion, I'd check in #windows about this.
[21:48] <h00k> passion: for offtopic chatter about Ubuntu, you can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <passion> does this qualify ...  its a linux question not ubunutu
[21:49] <PatrickDickey> And passion, I'd say "no" otherwise. I don't think Microsoft allows HTML5 apps in their store.
[21:49] <Yud_Zroc> windows 8 does allow it, but it must be wrapped into c++ code (or using awesomeium)
[21:50] <passion> thats what i was thinking yud
[21:50] <cypher-neo> passion: They don't allow HTML5 apps in their store. They only barely support HTML5 as it is in IE.
[21:50] <Yud_Zroc> passion: I Reccomend you look into construct2
[21:50] <passion> yeah i know ie5 sucked when I used it
[21:50] <passion> construct2
[21:50] <stunts513> catwiesel, you seemy sed command im tryin gto figureout what does?
[21:51] <Yud_Zroc> Construct2 is a HTML5 game dev software that allows export to facebook, kongregate, windows 8, and web
[21:51] <catwiesel> Well, it replaces some text with other text, but I'm sure you knew that already.
[21:51] <_ultimate> it appears i have found the type of thing i am talking about but for different devices
[21:52] <stunts513> well i figured that much, so what is replacing what is really what i need to know because its not doing anythign and exiting that with an error
[21:52] <passion> can you create a fuse app, and wrap it into something else so you put it in a store (a lubuntu one of couse)
[21:52] <Yud_Zroc> My question: Im new to SVN and was wondering how it affects other team members, does it ONLY copy the source code and NOT the project or am I wrong?
[21:52] <Yud_Zroc> passion: not with C2
[21:52] <passion> the thing that makes apps out of website by I believe removing the bored around them
[21:53] <_ultimate> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49910/how-to-distinguish-between-identical-usb-to-serial-adapters
[21:53] <_ultimate> that seems to answer my question now i need to adapt it to my needs, i will give it a try tomorrow and see if it works.
[21:53] <PatrickDickey> Yud_Zroc: I'm not an expert on SVN (or even git for that matter), but I'd guess that as long as you don't have write permissions, your changes won't affect others in the project.
[21:53] <catwiesel> stunts513: How about pasting the command in here?
[21:53] <ivotkl> Hello. =) Is there anyone who could tell me how to improve temperature issues without spending any money or spending little for a month old Samsung network? Videos hang when playing in HD. Using Ubuntu 12.04.
[21:54] <passion> I swear thats what this person did on this mac app that on my toolbar when I click it .. it redirect to a mobile site and I actually felt for it- well so did a lot of other people but they didn't realize it.
[21:54] <stunts513> ok
[21:54] <stunts513> sed  -i '.ori' 's/CONFIGURATION.*$/CONFIGURATION \" \"/g' config.h
[21:54] <Yud_Zroc> PatrickDickey: The server has groups for it that im using, im just wondering if SVN only effects code and not the whole project (like assets and models etc)
[21:55] <ivotkl> stunts513: is that command for me?
[21:55] <passion> I would be a millionaire if I could do what he is doing
[21:55] <stunts513> no thats fro catwiesel
[21:55] <ivotkl> Ok, thanks.
[21:55] <PatrickDickey> ivotkl: No. he's having problems with that command.
[21:55] <ivotkl> I'm thinking maybe switching of desktop environment for it to be lighter and videos playing better.
[21:56] <passion> question is bash on ubuntu the same thing as terminal on mac .. I was able to use some of same commands
[21:56] <ivotkl> Is there any drivers or programs I could install to manage temperature better?
[21:56] <stunts513> this script was initially designed to run on osx but most of the stuff i had to change was just the paths for the toolchain
[21:57] <PatrickDickey> passion: Sort of, but not really. I think the Mac terminal uses a different shell than bash. Maybe tcsh or csh.
[21:57] <_ultimate> anybody have experience with udev?
[21:58] <passion> I thought so because this bash book I have say to download something to use it with macos
[21:58] <PatrickDickey> passion: http://support.apple.com/kb/ta27005 explains the shells a bit better (at least the ones used in Mac's Terminal)
[21:58] <PatrickDickey> Which bash book are you using? (passion)
[21:59] <passion> I wasn't able to complete the installl process using the instuctions on the site.  So most likely I wont be able to get too far into the book.
[22:00] <catwiesel> stunts513: Well, by reading the manpage I figure, that the command that it takes '.ori' files, matching the last line in them with 'CONFIGURATION.*' and replacing it with 'CONFIGURATION " "' saving it into a 'config.h' file.
[22:00] <catwiesel> Not too sure, though. Reading sed is a pain.
[22:00] <stunts513> ok thanks
[22:00] <stunts513> the error i was getting seemed to be syntax ralted
[22:00] <passion> I don't I dl alot since I was going to start to learn ubuntu again which been long time ..in college and it was actually opensuse.  I got a bunch of them one is called cookbooks, and the other advanced something
[22:00] <stunts513> related*
[22:02] <PatrickDickey> Well passion, if you want to learn bash scripting (which is what I'm assuming you're doing), you might check in #bash for advice.
[22:03] <stunts513> ok i think i got tit hanks
[22:03] <omi_> Greetings everyone. Where does ubuntu store xorg config file?
[22:04] <tjbenator> Does anyone know Openstack?
[22:04] <auronandace> !xorgconf | omi_
[22:05] <passion> This is unrelated but related at the time.  Does google DO no evil when it comes the FOS system.   I am sure there sys is not that open by not but have they poured lots of money into Ubuntu and other distros.  Kind of a way of being charitable but knowing tat same time it make them richer if they have bunch people making there software for free
[22:05] <omi_> auronandace: so what's a >current< way of passing parameters to nvidia driver?
[22:06] <passion> yeah I will just stop now
[22:06] <auronandace> omi_: make a xorg.conf file
[22:06] <passion> im about to get banned but i aoways wonder if give as much as it take from liinux
[22:07] <auronandace> passion: you do know there is an offtopic channel right?
[22:07] <k1l_> passion: serious: we have a extra offtopic channel for all this, just join there: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <passion> yeah it was very off topic and random
[22:10] <passion> thats why I never use IRC it take discipline to not say anything
[22:11] <passion> i get banned often you guys have been much nicer than previous. lol
[22:11] <tjbenator> lol
[22:17] <druid> io
[22:19] <Guest45517> hi all, someone can link me some materials about linux/ubuntu for a beginner? i need to learn basic about terminal, what folder "home" "etc" etc means and are used etc..
[22:19] <druid> J'ai besoin d'installer un navigateur 32 bits + java 32 bits sur mon ubuntu 64, j'ai trouvé un moyen intéressant en utilisant icecat 32 en plus de firefox 64, mais je voulais garder la possibilité de paramétrer le ppa d'icecat en source, le probleme c'est que si je fais ca il va me le dl en 64.. puis-je spécifier une option sans le source.list pour qu'il dl en 32 bits et non pas en fonctione de l'
[22:19] <Guest45517> druid?
[22:20] <druid> ah
[22:20] <druid> i thought i was on ubuntu-fr :p
[22:20] <Guest45517> :)
[22:21] <sam113101> happens everyday
[22:21] <catwiesel> Guest45517:  http://askubuntu.com/ is a great fundus of knowledge.
[22:21] <Guest45517> thanks cat!
[22:24] <tjbenator> Any one know how to remove a compute node from a openstack cluster?
[22:24] <histo> !manual | Guest45517
[22:25] <Guest45517> oh thanks :)
[22:26] <histo> floodbot spam again?
[22:29] <jackarg> who would know a channel where I could get some advice on setting up a bbs?
[22:30] <ikonia> jackarg: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode
[22:30] <Moonies> lol
[22:30] <ikonia> !alis | jackarg
[22:32] <tjbenator> Does any one know what "nova unrescue <host>" does in openstack?
[22:33] <tjbenator> Nevermind It is for Instances. Not what I'm looking for
[22:37] <sirellyn> Is there a project management channel anywhere?  Or some channel people may know more about project management software?
[22:38] <ikonia> sirellyn: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode
[22:38] <sirellyn> I've used the freenode yellow pages. I've used google.  This is why I'm trying to ask real life people now.
[22:38] <crazy_> Hello mof@ckas!!
[22:38] <ikonia> sirellyn: this channel isn't used as a yellow pages of freenode
[22:39] <ikonia> crazy_: that language is unacceptable, please stop
[22:39] <histo> !alis | sirellyn
[22:39] <FerkSwe> Yaay! I'm breaking my first kernel! Any tips on things to change in it?
[22:39] <FerkSwe> *compiling
[22:39] <sirellyn> Thank you.
[22:39] <crazy_> Ikonia thanks for the info
[22:39] <ikonia> FerkSwe: why are you compiling it ? what do you want to change?
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> FerkSwe: Only the thing you need to fix for the first try.
[22:40] <crazy_> Any hot chicks around?
[22:40] <FerkSwe> ikonia, Mostly to have the experience and to learn new things
[22:40] <ikonia> crazy_: stop now
[22:40] <ikonia> crazy_: no bad language, no pickup things - this channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:40] <ikonia> FerkSwe: just do a recompile then, don't change anything unless you have need to
[22:41] <j___> Why does my c program only print 4 decimals of a number with 9 decimals ?
[22:41] <FerkSwe> Why not? Do I really need support for amature radio?
[22:41] <crazy_> Ikonia may I ask u a question?
[22:41] <ikonia> crazy_: is it about ubuntu ?
[22:41] <j___> what can be the reason ?
[22:41] <ikonia> FerkSwe: why remove it ?
[22:41] <crazy_> Can I spread Nutella on your booty and lick it off?
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> FerkSwe: Since most of that kind of support is modular, it doesn't use any resources except disk space - and if you've installed source and compilers you've used more than it takes up anyway.
[22:42] <FerkSwe> Secret ninja op much?
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> FerkSwe: But hey, this is part of what OS is all about, so have fun!  Make limited changes and keep notes though, so you know what causes breakage if it happens.
[22:43] <FerkSwe> jhutchins_wk, But If I don't reconfigure it I can't say that I have reconfigured it. Just doing it for the fun and knowledge.
[22:43] <ikonia> FerkSwe: doesn't sound like you're doing it to learn
[22:43] <ikonia> FerkSwe: sounds like your doing it to say you reconfigured it
[22:44] <FerkSwe> ikonia, Both!
[22:45] <ikonia> FerkSwe: well changing a module so you can say "I reconfigured it" is a pointless thing - more so if you've not reason to do it
[22:45] <ikonia> FerkSwe: and just recompiling it will teach you just as much,
[22:49] <ikonia> thank you simonbelmont
[22:56] <FerkSwe> ikonia, Might be true yeah... Didn't find anything other than the amature radio to turn off.
[22:57] <FerkSwe> Well then, onto compiling!
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> FerkSwe: ikonia does have a point that you should have a goal, preferably one you could measure to see if it worked.  I think stripping the modules you don't need might be good, as might compiling the ones you do need into the actual kernel.
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> FerkSwe: I don't know of any current guides to customizing and optimizing it, but I'm sure they're out there.
[22:57] <FerkSwe> It's doing things!
[23:00] <wayne__> I cant seem to get my usb to work with ubuntu
[23:00] <FerkSwe> jhutchins_wk, Yeah, I was thinking about doing that, get rid of unneeded modules, but ikonia was right again, that just the compilation is knowledge enough.
[23:01] <FerkSwe> So doing that, then I'm going to start looking more serious at optimizing it, when I actually have a clue what I am doing
[23:01] <FerkSwe> Really want to focus on bootup speed, because right now, I'm pretty sure ubuntu goes slower than my old windows 7 did.
[23:02] <histo1> FerkSwe: uneeded modules aren't an issue with boot speed. It will only load the modules you need
[23:03] <FerkSwe> histol, Then what's the point of removing unneeded modules?
[23:04] <histo> FerkSwe: size as far as I see it.
[23:04] <FerkSwe> That's no fun!
[23:04] <FerkSwe> I got a whopping 120 gb!
[23:04] <histo> FerkSwe: have you checked with bootchart or something similar to see what's holding it up
[23:05] <FerkSwe> I most certainly have not, but I will do that as soon as my new kernel is done compiling.
[23:05] <emash> guys, installing ubuntu 5 mins before i chosen install alongside option, a guess what, damn installer formatted my second hard drive ffs
[23:06] <bobka> how do i find the package that contains the wireless NIC driver, rt73.bin? I think it is non-free.
[23:06] <emash> are there any chances for me?
[23:06] <histo> FerkSwe: also btw here I boot to gui in less that 5 seconds.  SSD
[23:06] <histo> FerkSwe: disk speed is one of the biggest factors
[23:07] <histo> !find rt73.bin | bobka
[23:07] <FerkSwe> I have an Intel 330 ssd. But I'm nowhere near 5 seconds
[23:07] <FerkSwe> try 30
[23:07] <OerHeks> histo i saved 9 sec boottime by disabling IPv6
[23:07] <histo> FerkSwe: Yeah something is definately hanging then. Probably DHCP or something stupid
[23:08] <histo> FerkSwe: ^^^ see OerHeks comment
[23:08] <OerHeks> that should shown up @ bootchart
[23:08] <emash> i see nobody cares about me being dumb
[23:08] <FerkSwe> Interesting. Definitely getting bootchart
[23:09] <histo> !patience | emash
[23:09] <histo> emash: yes there are boot the install cd immediately
[23:10] <Gaunt> Calm down dear.  It's just a commercial.
[23:10] <histo> emash: How was your second drive initially formatted?
[23:10] <nell> I'm installing bluetooth drivers for 12.10
[23:10] <nell> the instructions rae for 11.04 will they still work
[23:11] <magixx> im trying to install https://github.com/jedisct1/libpuzzle, i installed g++ and libgd2-xpm-dev, however when do 'make check' it tells me a test failed, i tried make install and that did something, however when i run the program it gives me and error of cant open shared object libpuzzle.so.1
[23:11] <emash> i chose 'install alongside with windows' option in setup, then, booting in win7 i saw my second hard drive overtaken by ubuntu
[23:11] <emash> it's not
[23:11] <histo> emash: what was on the second hard drive prior to that?
[23:12] <histo> Why is it like pulling teeth with certain people.
[23:12] <emash> ah just pictures and stuff anyway i have a backup, but it didn't gave me any warnings whatsoever
[23:13] <histo> emash: It will not overwrite without user intervention.
[23:13] <histo> emash: Are you sure it didn't just resize the partition and install along side windows
[23:13] <emash> no it' got to second hd i don't know exactly why
[23:13] <histo> emash: please paste the output of lsblk  somewhere
[23:14] <histo> !paste | emash
[23:14] <emash> forget it please, i am making my way into the lonux world now =)
[23:14] <histo> emash: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsblk | pastebinit
[23:16] <pilif12p_> I have a problem. in mcedit right now, and it seems to have taken my pointer, I can't move to other windows.
[23:17] <pilif12p_> In irssi now because it's terminal based, but I can't do much else
[23:17] <pilif12p_> how can i regain control of my mouse?
[23:17] <histo> pilif12p_: Does the keyboard shortcuts still work or is X hung
[23:17] <bobka> During install, had to add rt73.bin from removable media. Been advised to now install from package to avoid potential upgrade issues. apt-get says already have newest version. What to do?
[23:18] <pilif12p__> histo: it works, i opened another terminal on accident...
[23:18] <pilif12p__> now i'm stuck in irssi on this one
[23:19] <pilif12p__> i don't really want to kill xorg...
[23:20] <pilif12p__> i suppose i could try to kill the program...
[23:23] <druid> hello
[23:23] <druid> Hello, i'm trying to install icecat 32 bits on a 64 bits os, but when i execute "$ sudo aptitude install icecat:i386" it says it cannot install it like that as libnotify4:i386 recommends notification-daemon:i386. Any idea on how i could solve this? I havn't found anything clear about multiarch support.
[23:23] <druid> I have found two links, but the debian tuto http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation?action=recall&rev=39 seems to differ crom the files i find on my ubuntu, and the ubuntu tuto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec is a bit short...
[23:25] <histo> druid: Is there a reason you want to use the 32bit version?
[23:26] <raj> starting with ubuntu-server, I then added xorg
[23:26] <raj> but I still have to do `startx` to get it to start each time
[23:26] <histo> !who | raj
[23:26] <raj> how can I make it autostart that?
[23:27] <raj> histo, starting with ubuntu-server, I then added xorg, but I still have to do `startx` to get it to start each time. How can I make it autstart?
[23:27] <druid> histo: i need a browser + jre 32 bits to get cisco anyconnect to work on my ubuntu 64 bits as it onlys support 32 bits
[23:27] <emash> so now i am at the partitioning screen of ubuntu setup. i have sda with 2 parts of windows and sdb which i am not going to use now. my question is: what i chose when creating a new partition from free space on sda and what device i should use for "boot loader installation"
[23:27] <histo> raj: you can install a login manager or use mingetty or other techniques
[23:28] <histo> raj: actually nevermind you don't want auto login you just want it to startx on login?
[23:29] <sam113101> use your default shell's startup script/file
[23:29] <raj> histo, I want it to startx on login
[23:29] <bobka> During install, had to add rt73.bin from removable media. Been advised to now install from package to avoid potential upgrade issues. apt-get says already have newest version. From info; shall I add a + to force the install?
[23:29] <raj> and I'd actually like to have autologin as well
[23:29] <raj> histo ^^
[23:29] <cosmicfires> anyone using pogoplug (pogoplug.com) with ubuntu?
[23:31] <histo> raj: well two different issues to startx on login put something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603486/  in your user's .bash_profile
[23:31] <emash> what device shoud be chosen as boot loader installation when installing ubuntu on the same drive with two win7 partitions (main and 100meg)
[23:32] <histo> raj: if you want to do both I recomend using a login manager. There are ways to do it without one. But if you are the type of person that needs X on a server. It may be easier for you to just sudo apt-get install gdm
[23:33] <histo> emash: the drive with windows on it /dev/sda
[23:33] <histo> emash: in most cases
[23:33] <raj> histo, I'm trying to avoid gnome
[23:34] <raj> I wanted something totally lightweight like openbox
[23:34] <histo> druid: I can't even find the icecat package right now
[23:34] <druid> histo: yeah, i added a ppa for that
[23:34] <histo> raj: So why are you installing a "server"?
[23:34] <raj> a server?
[23:34] <raj> what server am I installing?
[23:34] <raj> ubuntu-server?
[23:35] <histo> raj: you said you started with ubuntu-server
[23:35] <raj> yeah
[23:35] <histo> raj: You would want to start with ubuntu-minimal if you wanted lightweight   or ubuntu-core
[23:35] <raj> because I wanna run a lightweight linux OS
[23:35] <histo> raj: ubuntu-server is something different
[23:35] <raj> I'm gonna be running a server off of it too
[23:36] <ivotkl> Guys. Could anyone point me out to a Moborobo similar program for Linux?
[23:36] <raj> thought ubuntu-server was the alternative to ubuntu-desktop
[23:36] <suhaib> Anyone uses opnebox here ?
[23:36] <teh_nnob> hi
[23:36] <raj> suhaib, yes
[23:36] <druid> what about http://madbox.tuxfamily.org/ raj ?
[23:37] <emash> histo yes, i have 100meg sda1 and win7 on sda2. what should i chose in drop down menu at the bottom – Device for boot loader installation?
[23:37] <histo> raj: ubuntu-server is not ubuntu-minimal
[23:37] <suhaib> raj: Do you know how to set a shortcut that will make a window always on top ?
[23:37] <histo> emash: /dev/sda
[23:37] <emash> histo, can i just select my free space on sda and hit install then?
[23:38] <histo> druid: do you have ia32-libs installed?
[23:38] <druid> i do
[23:40] <histo> emash: the bootloader gets installed to /dev/sda   so that grub can be used to boot and you will be able to select winblows or ubuntu on boot.   The operating system gets installed to freespace if you have any or you can have it resize windows partition and install in the new freespace.
[23:40] <raj> suhaib, sorry, I don't
[23:41] <histo> druid: the other option is a 32bit chroot
[23:41] <emash> histo it says no root file sustem is defined. it means i have to make a swap and main partition from freespace?
[23:43] <raj> histo, can you tell me why I'd want minimal instead of server+xorg+openbox?
[23:43] <magixx> im trying to install https://github.com/jedisct1/libpuzzle, i installed g++ and libgd2-xpm-dev, however when do 'make check' it tells me a test failed, i tried make install and that did something, however when i run the program it gives me and error of cant open shared object libpuzzle.so.1
[23:43] <histo> druid: and it still doesn't work with ia32-libs?
[23:43] <escott> !find libpuzzle.so.1 | magixx
[23:43] <histo> emash: Why are you creating your own partitions? Is there a reason you don't use the installers wizard? Also didn't you already install?  You complained about overwriting a hard drive already.
[23:44] <histo> raj: because you wanted a "light" system
[23:46] <magixx> i libpuzzle1 i believe is from package libpuzzle-bin
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> can anyone give me a command to zip the contents of a directory and remove said files, leaving only the resulting .zip?
[23:46] <histo> magixx: nope
[23:46] <magixx> but if i install libpuzzle-bin that version is old
[23:46] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: remove what files?
[23:46] <druid> histo: no it doesn't
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: the files going into the zip
[23:47] <emash> can /home partition be ntfs?
[23:47] <histo> druid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> emash: I suppose, but why would you want to?
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> druid: just install the 32-bit libs, its easy.
[23:47] <magixx> it tells me libpuzzle1 ios already the newest version if i try to install it
[23:47] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: what make a zip of the contents of a directory then remove the files in the zip leaving only the resulting zip? How does that make sense.
[23:48] <histo> magixx: Then you already have libpuzzle
[23:48] <emash> i want second hard drive to be my home folder in ubuntu, being accesible from windows
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: not the files in the zip, but the files that went into the zip. when you create a zip gui the original files are left intact, is it the same with cl?
[23:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> emash: you can install a program on windows that lets it read ext
[23:49] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: just rm them after
[23:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: thing is is they are all ascii text without an extension.
[23:49] <magixx> but it does not work when i run it
[23:49] <druid> ntzrmtthihu777: i did it already, it's not sufficient for what i'm trying to do.
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: and there are far too many to rm manually
[23:50] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: right you could zip somedirectory && rm somedirectory/*
[23:50] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: or just remove the directory
[23:50] <raj> histo, but why isn't server light?
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> druid: explain
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: if the zip ends up in the same dir rm will get rid of it too.
[23:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: ooooh, so if I am in that dir i can do zip * ../zip.zip and then rm the current dir, right?
 druid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System -> i've read it and actually posted the link on my initial question ^^
[23:54] <druid> i'll try the chroot though, thanks histo
[23:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> druid: why dontcha answer me, what exactly are you trying to d.
[23:55] <druid> (i really wanted to get that multiarch stuff to work though)
[23:55] <druid> [00:23:10] <druid> Hello, i'm trying to install icecat 32 bits on a 64 bits os, but when i execute "$ sudo aptitude install icecat:i386" it says it cannot install it like that as libnotify4:i386 recommends notification-daemon:i386. Any idea on how i could solve this? I havn't found anything clear about multiarch support.
[23:55] <druid> [00:23:21] <druid> I have found two links, but the debian tuto http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation?action=recall&rev=39 seems to differ crom the files i find on my ubuntu, and the ubuntu tuto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec is a bit short...
[23:55] <druid> [00:27:12] <druid> histo: i need a browser + jre 32 bits to get cisco anyconnect to work on my ubuntu 64 bits as it onlys support 32 bits
[23:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> druid: have you tried getlibs?
[23:56] <druid> Here you go ntzrmtthihu777
[23:56] <druid> Not yet, i want that built-in multiarch stuff to work
[23:56] <druid> *i wanted
[23:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> druid: kinda part of it, at times. you do have ia32-libs installed, right?
[23:57] <druid> yes i do
[23:57] <Randy_Popabawa> I'm having some trouble configuring Ubuntu to work with my Samsung NP365E5C. I can't seem to access any sort of brightness controls via shortcut keys or the display settings GUI
[23:57] <Randy_Popabawa> Also the battery indicator is completely screwy
[23:57] <designbybeck_> My main drive is a 256GB SDD... I put in another 300GB HDD I had from another computer. I'm just not sure how to format it and use it
[23:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Randy_Popabawa: #ubuntu-touch
[23:58] <designbybeck_> Or at least the best way to use it. I want to use it for some files, like photos/music maybe
[23:58] <Randy_Popabawa> ubuntu-touch?
[23:58] <Randy_Popabawa> I'm talking about a laptop
[23:58] <Randy_Popabawa> Not a tablet
[23:58] <Guest98491> need some help ... just installed ubuntu 12.10...tried updating my vid drivers perwebsite,....now my taksbar, and side launch bar are gone.... everything i am reading says get to terminal... but how can i launch without any sidebar etc...
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Randy_Popabawa: my bad, samsung threw me off
[23:58] <Randy_Popabawa> Oh its ok.
[23:58] <Randy_Popabawa> I didn't mean to snap
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: ext4, if the only os's accessing it are linux based
[23:59] <designbybeck_> yes it is ntzrmtthihu777
[23:59] <designbybeck_> I think I had it partitioned because I was playing with differnet distros. ntzrmtthihu777 So I can just open up the disk utility and do it there?
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: then format it as ext4. do you want it to automount somewhere?