[00:37] <scottbomb> I'm testing the daily ISO. I noticed that with icon themes other than greybird, the oval-shaped background behind the icon names are back. I thought this was changed in Quantal (as it is on my Quantal systems). IIS this a bug or is it by design?
[00:45] <scottbomb> I guess I forgot, I added a .gtkrc-2.0 script to my home directory a long time ago and somewhere along the line I thought that Xubuntu actually made it standard to have a transparent background on icon text. It would be a nice feature to have though :)
[03:14] <micahg> mr_pouit: ACK, sorry, I'm not used to controlling translations
[10:16] <knoppies> This probably isnt the right channel for this, but I've been trying to install xubuntu12.04.2 on an old laptop of mine which doesnt have working USB to boot from. So I've been trying to do a PXE network boot. SO far so good except that Im using an ubuntu netboot image, and so when I direct the installer to a xubuntu alternate install CD I get "No kernel modules were found. This is probably due to the mismatch be
[10:16] <knoppies> tween the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive." Are there any PXE boot net installers for xubuntu (I cannot find any on xubuntu.org)
[10:17] <ochosi> just to be sure: you're not using optical media because that old computer of yours doesn't have a drive, right?
[10:17] <knoppies> ochosi, Im not using optical media because I don't have any discs to burn to (and I've had a high burn failure rate before, so I'd rather not go that route).
[10:18] <knoppies> but it is still an option. someone also suggested using the built in SD card slot, which I might do too, but I would rather conquer PXE.
[10:18] <ochosi> i see, that makes things more complicated then. tbh i haven't done your kind of install, i've always had some kind of medium...
[10:19] <knoppies> I have done it this way before, but with ubuntu.
[10:19] <ochosi> well if you manage you should certainly blog about it ;)
[10:19] <knoppies> and I was using a mini.iso rather than a PXE boot image.
[10:19] <ochosi> why not use that again and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[10:20] <knoppies> I've got the PXE boot image working (took me over 6 hours to figure out the quirks of TFTP)
[10:20] <knoppies> That did cross my mind, but it sounds like a load of unnecessary ubuntu on there. and I dont like the route ubuntu is taking.
[10:20] <knoppies> s/route/path/
[10:20] <knoppies> I've recently found this: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases and Im thinking I might try setup an NFS server and give a try tomorrow.
[10:21] <ochosi> i thought you could use the server-install and install xubuntu-desktop on top of that, that shouldn't entail any unnecessary crap
[10:21] <knoppies> but it would be easier if a PXE install image for xubuntu already exists.
[10:21] <knoppies> oh, I was thinking of using the alternate install. Maybe I should give that a go.
[10:22] <knoppies> ok, I might give that a try then.
[10:22] <ochosi> yeah, unless anyone else here can help you with pxe, try that :)
[10:24] <knoppies> thank you.
[10:25] <ochosi> well, i wasn't too much help unfortunately
[11:19] <knoppies> I managed to get it to boot a liveCD over PXE using this http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases I have booted a xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[11:19] <knoppies> My config isnt exactly the same as his, I setup my own bootp, DHCP and tftp server separately.
[11:25] <ochosi> cool
[12:02] <knoppies> The installation worked.
[12:02] <ochosi> congrats!
[12:03] <knoppies> Do you recommend I use the restricted video drivers or the open source ones? I used to install the restricted ones from my vid card vendor but then everytime xserver (or something else graphics related) updates my drivers start playing havoc with my sanity.
[12:03] <knoppies> I've decided to stick with some drivers in the repo.
[12:04] <ochosi> depends on your hardware
[12:04] <knoppies> an ATI X300 I think.
[12:05] <ochosi> i usually go with closed-source nvidia cause their powermanagement is better than nouveau (at least in my experience)
[12:05] <knoppies> mobility
[12:07] <ochosi> sry, my ati experience is years old...
[12:07] <knoppies> then we are in luck, the X300 is years old.
[12:07] <ochosi> haha
[12:08] <ochosi> yeah, but i haven't tried open radeon drivers in a long time, those will most certainly have improved
[12:08] <knoppies> well I will give them a shot, see what happens.
[12:08] <ochosi> yup, that's a reasonable thing to do
[13:31] <bluesabre> micahg, any hope for catfish 0.6.1 in raring?
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[15:47] <len-1304> bluesabre, The current catfish is broken, so not including it is a bug.
[17:23] <micahg> bluesabre: sure, need to talk to someone about it
[17:40] <zequence> Is the default wallpaper set differently for the desktop and the lightgdm background? I'm guessing this is for the desktop etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml
[17:40] <zequence> Well, for Ubuntu Studio anyway :)
[17:41] <ochosi> yeah, xfdesktop uses xfconf, but recently received a patch to also inform accountsservice of a wallpaper change
[17:41] <ochosi> (in ubuntu's repos)
[17:41] <ochosi> and lightdm-gtk-greeter recently received a patch to pick up wallpapers from accountsservice
[17:41] <ochosi> i think it might already be in the 1.6 release, but i'm not 100% sure now
[17:42] <ochosi> zequence: ^
[17:43] <zequence> ochosi: Ok, so we don't set lightgdm separately? I've noticed that changing user backdrop changes the greeter one as well
[17:44] <zequence> But, isn't this a recent change?
[17:44] <ochosi> yeah
[17:44] <ochosi> it is a rather recent change
[17:44] <ochosi> so from the user-perspective you're setting the wallpaper for desktop and greeter the same way (through xfdesktop-settings)
[17:45] <zequence> I'm trying to find where we might have set the default backdrop for the greeter, but I'm not sure if we've been doing that at all then.
[17:45] <zequence> This is for the Ubuntu Studio DVD
[17:45] <ochosi> there is a lightdm.conf file
[17:46] <ochosi> but i think the background variable there isn't used anymore
[17:46] <ochosi> you should be able to directly set the bg via xfconf/xfdesktop, even on the US dvd
[17:47] <zequence> Ok, thanks for the info. 
[17:50] <ochosi> yw
[17:53] <mr_pouit> it's still used, when the user hasn't set a desktop background through xfconf
[17:53] <mr_pouit> or when it's set as 600 because the picture is too sensitive
[17:53] <mr_pouit> (so overally, when the user background isn't present/readable)
[23:32] <pleia2> haydenbbickerton: thanks for the email!
[23:34] <knome> did i miss something?
[23:34] <pleia2> haydenbbickerton: any way you can re-save the .svg including all external pieces? it's looking for a /home/knome/tshirt_lyz_1.png
[23:34] <pleia2> knome: yeah, t-shirt design submission :)
[23:35] <knome> that's probably my mistake
[23:36] <haydenbbickerton> Sorry! I'll try to do that. In the meantime I sent a .jpg of it.
[23:36] <pleia2> haydenbbickerton: so I really like the idea, but we're at the mercy of custom t-shirt shops as far as our background color goes
[23:37] <pleia2> it's very difficult (read: expensive) to get a good gradient shirt
[23:37] <pleia2> particularly if you are specific about colors, I might even go as far to say as it's impossible
[23:38] <knome> unless you have a specific (expensive) deal with a manufacturer...
[23:39] <haydenbbickerton> Ohh, that sucks. Is the range of solid colors limited too?
[23:39] <pleia2> very limited
[23:39] <pleia2> so far I've found most printers support black and white :) but then it gets iffy
[23:40] <knome> i wouldn't do any assumptions about background color
[23:40] <knome> (on t-shirts)
[23:40] <knome> many have *some* shade of blue, green, red etc.
[23:40] <knome> but they can vary a lot
[23:40] <pleia2> and it's never a pretty blue! :)
[23:40] <knome> most of the times not
[23:41] <knome> though i like the "blue" they had at a local shop... though that was closer to "petrol"
[23:41] <pleia2> haydenbbickerton: trying to come up with things to not discourage you :) I really do appreciate you taking the time! and I'm updating the wiki now with these notes
[23:42] <knome> yes, any help is definitely welcome!
[23:42] <knome> (and hey haydenbbickerton o/)
[23:43] <haydenbbickerton> Lol, no it's not a problem! I'm just redoing the shirt so that it doesn't have a gradient :P 
[23:43] <pleia2> :)
[23:43] <haydenbbickerton> knome: is that a question?
[23:44] <knome> no, just a "hello"
[23:44] <knome> if you don't mind, you can send the next proposal to our developer mailing list
[23:44] <knome> !xubuntu-devel
[23:44] <knome> we need a new factoid.
[23:45] <knome> !xubuntu-devel
[23:45] <ubottu> The Xubuntu developer mailing list information can be found at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[23:45] <haydenbbickerton> Yes I will. I just email it to xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com right?
[23:46] <knome> yes. though if you're not subscribed, we need to moderate
[23:46] <knome> so if possible, subscribe first and it should get straight through
[23:47] <knome> (unless the attacment is too big again, but we'll get notified of pending messages)
[23:47] <haydenbbickerton> I'm subscribed
[23:47] <knome> ok, then just sending an email will do it. thanks! :)
[23:47] <pleia2> actually, we have a size limit on messages, it won't get through
[23:47] <knome> right, is that something really boring (and small)?
[23:48] <pleia2> haydenbbickerton: if possible, you can upload to this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Products
[23:49] <pleia2> you need to sign in first (it's slooow) and then add it as an "attachment"
[23:49] <knome> the wiki has been super slow today, again
[23:49] <knome> they really should get away from moin and stop telling they "can fix it"