| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| xubuntu422 | hello 422 here, how can i check md5sum of xubuntu 12.04 disk? | 02:21 |
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| holstein | !md5 | xubuntu422 | 03:20 |
| ubottu | xubuntu422: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 03:20 |
| xubuntu296 | Is there *real* installer for xubuntu 12.10? One that will let me *choose* what software I want to install? The only ISOs I could find have installers that decide for themselves what software should be installed. | 04:16 |
| holstein | xubuntu296: xubuntu is really just ubuntu with a pre-determined set of software installed and configured | 04:18 |
| holstein | you might prefer just installing minimal and adding what you like.. xfce4 for example and not the xubuntu desktop | 04:18 |
| holstein | !minimal | 04:18 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 04:18 |
| holstein | xubuntu296: enjoy! | 04:19 |
| xubuntu296 | Thanks, holstein. | 04:20 |
| shaih | Hello, when i use firefox my cursor randomly dissapears and wont come back until i restart my computer | 04:28 |
| holstein | shaih: just firefox? | 04:28 |
| shaih | It is still gone even out of firefox | 04:29 |
| shaih | though it is still active just invisable | 04:29 |
| holstein | shaih: and its *only* firefox that seems to cause it? | 04:30 |
| shaih | the only thing that i have seen so far cause it | 04:31 |
| holstein | shaih: will you launch ff from the terminal and see if you see any output there? | 04:31 |
| shaih | it is possible that it happens with other programs | 04:31 |
| holstein | shaih: anything in particular? like flash? | 04:31 |
| shaih | holstein: what would the command for that be? And not that i noticed though it happens relatively rarely about once every three hours of constant use | 04:32 |
| holstein | shaih: it'll be.. open a terminal, type the word "firefox", without the quotation marks.. and press the enter key | 04:33 |
| shaih | oh sorry i spaced that ff was firefox | 04:33 |
| holstein | shaih: no worries | 04:34 |
| shaih | there was no output, simply ff launched | 04:34 |
| holstein | shaih: what graphics card? nvidia? are you using a proprietary driver? | 04:34 |
| shaih | i am pretty sure its nvidia, and i have not installed any non-standard drivers | 04:35 |
| holstein | shaih: you might try that as a troubleshooting step | 04:35 |
| holstein | !ati | 04:35 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 04:35 |
| shaih | thanks for the help ill follow those steps and see if it works | 04:38 |
| shaih | if not ill be back | 04:38 |
| donnie | I have a 'slave' drive. What should I format and partition it too, to make a storeage/media drive | 04:39 |
| holstein | donnie: depends... for a linux only system, you might want ext4 | 04:41 |
| donnie | holstein. It should be a linux use only. I don't really plan on going back to windows for anything | 04:42 |
| Cheri703 | leandro: it's generally considered good IRC etiquette to ask before sending private messages. | 05:43 |
| Maccer | Mh hm. | 05:43 |
| Maccer | XChat sadly doesn't provide me the context of the channel you message from or are in. | 05:44 |
| leandro | i have a problem with compiz emerald, it's the windows' frames, when i go to the top right edge with the mouse i cannot click on the 'X' to close the window because it is not fully maximized, i've tried using different themes and other things, does anyone know what can i do? | 05:52 |
| shadow_fox | hi i am new here.. i am looking for a new os that will support my hardware | 06:40 |
| shadow_fox | is this os runs on low end hardware also ?? | 06:40 |
| shadow_fox | as in run like if i open up 4-5 concurrent application is that going to halt or run smoothly on my laptop which i bought back in 2006, | 06:41 |
| shadow_fox | laptop configuration:: hp dv2000 series, 512mb ram upgraded to 1.5gb. harddisk 160gb, intel centrino processor. | 06:42 |
| Cida | Hey guys. Anyone active? | 07:03 |
| Cida | Hey guys | 07:05 |
| SunStar | hi | 07:05 |
| jarnos | shadow_fox, depends on applications :) If you find xubuntu's desktop environment too heavyweight, there are alternatives. | 07:06 |
| Cida | Xubuntu is heavy weight for someone's computer? lol | 07:06 |
| Cida | So I'm relatively new to this thing called Xubuntu, and Linux in general lol. What are some commands I should know? | 07:08 |
| nikolam | Cida, use man <command> and there is also help.ubuntu.com | 07:09 |
| jarnos | Cida, well lubuntu is more lightweight and does not use pulseaudio by default. BTW how does current xubuntu handle volume control? | 07:09 |
| nikolam | Also consult distowatch.com to see the amount of free software distributions out there. | 07:09 |
| Cida | Guys, I don't even know how to send private messages using XChat cx | 07:10 |
| Cida | Isn't something like MSG (the person's nick) (the message) | 07:10 |
| nikolam | yup /msg <nick> message | 07:10 |
| SunStar | right click on a user's name and select open dialogue window or query | 07:10 |
| nikolam | consult your client docs. | 07:11 |
| Cida | Where do I find the client docs? | 07:12 |
| SunStar | F1 or Help menu -> Contents | 07:12 |
| Cida | Oh... | 07:12 |
| nikolam | I was thinking about manual for irc client app you use, Help>Contents man command, find program project page and see there etc | 07:13 |
| Cida | mmk cx | 07:15 |
| Cida | So...another question from the greenest newbie that's probably been in here for a while. | 07:16 |
| Cida | What's so awesome about Xubuntu versus other Linux OSes? | 07:16 |
| shadow_fox | jarnos: can you point out what are my options ? | 07:17 |
| Guest10002 | xubuntu is ok but I'll prob switch to crunchbang because this is a really old laptop | 07:18 |
| Cida | Crunchbang. What kind of name is that? XD | 07:18 |
| SunStar | xubuntu has a "fresher" software library than the "satle" one offered by debian, as well as a being more lightweight and requiring lower hardware specs | 07:19 |
| SunStar | stale* | 07:19 |
| Cida | Sounds nice. And I'm loving the performance my computer has had since I installed Xubuntu on it. Although, I'm not loving this no WiFi business. | 07:20 |
| Cida | I mean | 07:20 |
| Cida | It prevents other people from using my computer without my permission and downloading things... But it's so annoying plugging it in to a router | 07:21 |
| SunStar | your wifi should be working, if its not then it requires fixing. its not that way be design | 07:21 |
| SunStar | be = by | 07:21 |
| Cida | I've heard Xubuntu has issues with WiFi for some reason. I've tried fixing it, but I'm too much of newbie to fix it myself | 07:22 |
| SunStar | try installing ndiswrapper and wicd | 07:22 |
| SunStar | you can find both in the software center | 07:22 |
| SunStar | xubuntu has no more issues with wifi than any other buntu or debian | 07:23 |
| Cida | I wonder why it didn't work for me out of the package cx | 07:24 |
| SunStar | try installing ndiswrapper and wicd. both can be found in the software center | 07:25 |
| Cida | I am | 07:26 |
| Cida | the debconf thing is annoying the crap out of me, though | 07:27 |
| Cida | cx | 07:27 |
| Cida | This isn't the first time I've installed something on this computer. But it's still annoying when you're in several chats | 07:27 |
| SunStar | you can adjust the focus stealing prevention to prevent seeing it | 07:28 |
| Cida | Do what now? | 07:29 |
| SunStar | launcher menu -> settings -> settings manager -> Window Manager -> Focus Tab | 07:30 |
| nikolam | window focus stealing prevention is what I suffer from, too. I will set it , too. | 07:30 |
| SunStar | takes some twekaing. i usually screw it up so i dont mess with it | 07:31 |
| nikolam | I just wonder why, since installing I never stop reporting bugs. I like am not sure they will ever get fixed in this LTS. | 07:32 |
| Cida | I just set it so that the computer focuses on what the mouse is on. Now my computer behaves more like Blender x3 | 07:33 |
| Cida | I've had several problems with crashes, but it's mostly with using Mixcraft through .wine | 07:33 |
| Cida | So I'm figuring it's not a big deal | 07:34 |
| Cida | ugh, it's still not letting me turn WiFi on | 07:35 |
| SunStar | 12 is more aggressive in requesting bug reports | 07:35 |
| jarnos | shadow_fox, well lubuntu works faster when using my mini-laptop; chromium-browser is defaut there instead of firefox. | 07:36 |
| SunStar | go to a terminal and type "sudo lspci" to find out what chipset the wifi uses | 07:37 |
| SunStar | i hate lubuntu >_< | 07:37 |
| bazhang | no sudo needed for lspci | 07:37 |
| Cida | What information from this do I need | 07:38 |
| Cida | It pulls up like 50 lines of info | 07:38 |
| bazhang | perhaps you are thinking of sudo lshw | 07:38 |
| jarnos | shadow_fox, I have not tried latest releases, but they tend to get heavier. | 07:39 |
| nikolam | SunStar, yes, more bugs get reported, but is gives me a bad impression, like eather I fix it myself in code, or they will bug me forever while using LTS. I can not recommend that for novice user that just installed Xubuntu 12+ and needs to be assured he is using stable platform. | 07:40 |
| nikolam | Eather they do not repeat all the time in GUI and get reported behind scenes, or community shoud fix them all and update repos. | 07:40 |
| SunStar | Cida, somewhere in there you should see info about network controller | 07:41 |
| SunStar | unless its a USB wifi, the the command would be lsusb | 07:41 |
| jarnos | shadow_fox, maybe your hp is faster anyway. | 07:41 |
| jarnos | shadow_fox, you may want to remove pulseaudio, if you don't need it. Lubuntu (12.04 at least) does not have it by default. | 07:43 |
| shadow_fox | jarnos: all i want that i can do multiple works at the same time without any halt | 07:44 |
| Cida | It says "Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)" when I use lspci | 07:45 |
| Cida | Now | 07:45 |
| Cida | Knowing that information... What do I do? Search up dribers? | 07:46 |
| bazhang | !broadcom | Cida | 07:46 |
| ubottu | Cida: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 07:46 |
| Cida | drivers* | 07:46 |
| SunStar | http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php | 07:47 |
| Sir_Leto | I'm using a bluetooth keyboar that has no page up /page down keys, how do I scroll in irsssi without them? | 07:51 |
| bazhang | try in #irssi ? Sir_Leto | 07:52 |
| Sir_Leto | I assumed you show me how to remap keys, but okay | 07:54 |
| Sir_Leto | *would | 07:54 |
| Sir_Leto | thanks | 07:54 |
| Cida | Um | 08:00 |
| Cida | So I downloaded it | 08:01 |
| Cida | Now I'm not sure how to install it. I used tar -zxvf on the tar.gz file it gave me | 08:01 |
| Cida | And | 08:01 |
| Cida | I can't find an executable for installion | 08:02 |
| bazhang | Cida, downloaded what? | 08:02 |
| bazhang | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx <---- Cida did you follow this? | 08:02 |
| SunStar | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing_STA_drivers | 08:03 |
| SunStar | thats the next step | 08:04 |
| bazhang | not via PM Cida | 08:04 |
| SunStar | make sure you enable restricted extras and all that jazz in software sources (launcher menu -> settings -> software sources) | 08:08 |
| === _religion is now known as religion | ||
| andrzejr | Hi, I'm working on an indicator plugin for xfce panel | 09:22 |
| andrzejr | what indicators are currently in Raring? I only see two on my system (soundmenu and application) | 09:23 |
| SunStar | #ubuntu-app-devel | 09:24 |
| andrzejr | SunStar, thanks. I thought this is specific to xubuntu (all indicators in ubuntu have moved to gtk3) | 09:27 |
| SunStar | oh yeah maybe thats not the best place | 09:27 |
| nikolam | there is #xfce channel also. | 09:29 |
| baizon | andrzejr: all indicators, that dont have gtk3 dependencies are working with xubuntu | 10:19 |
| baizon | andrzejr: if it is allowed, on what indicator are you? :) | 10:19 |
| xubuntu960 | hello | 10:28 |
| SunStar | hi | 10:29 |
| baizon | to late SunStar | 10:29 |
| Ned_Flanders | hi can anyone help me? | 13:15 |
| Wizard | It depends. | 13:18 |
| Ned_Flanders | well | 13:18 |
| Wizard | !ask | 13:18 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 13:18 |
| Ned_Flanders | I installed Ubuntu 12.4 and Gnome. I am on unity system monitor and it says 1.8 gb RAM being used? | 13:19 |
| Wizard | Hmm.. with empty desktop? | 13:21 |
| Ned_Flanders | yes | 13:21 |
| Ned_Flanders | is that normal? | 13:21 |
| Wizard | I'm not quite sure, I haven't used Unity for a while, but afaik it taken less than 1G | 13:22 |
| Genrawir | That seems a bit high, but if Gnome and Unity do tend to use a bit more RAM than XUbuntu (XFCE). Perhaps you can try to disable background services, there are quite a few of them on by default. | 13:22 |
| Ned_Flanders | how much RAM does XFCE use? | 13:23 |
| Ned_Flanders | what background services do you suggest i deactivate | 13:23 |
| Wizard | Currently my Xubuntu takes 1577424 bytes. | 13:24 |
| Wizard | It's been running for a while, has few apps open. | 13:24 |
| Ned_Flanders | so about 1.5gb? | 13:24 |
| Wizard | I bet half of that are disk buffers. | 13:24 |
| Wizard | Yes. | 13:24 |
| Ned_Flanders | what apps do u have open | 13:24 |
| Wizard | xhcat, few terminals, system monitor. | 13:25 |
| Wizard | I think it takes less than 500MB after boot. | 13:25 |
| Ned_Flanders | hmm i think ill uninstall gnome/unity and go with something else then | 13:25 |
| Genrawir | see what the output of 'top' says. That should tell you where your RAM went. | 13:25 |
| Wizard | 1577424 | 13:26 |
| Ned_Flanders | i took a screenshot of system monitor: http://i50.tinypic.com/dnyjyt.png | 13:26 |
| Ned_Flanders | i need a linux desktop that uses the least memory | 13:27 |
| Ned_Flanders | what do u recommend? | 13:27 |
| baizon | xubuntu | 13:27 |
| Wizard | xubuntu :> | 13:27 |
| Genrawir | You can try to install the xubuntu-desktop package. This is the Xubuntu chan after all. | 13:28 |
| Genrawir | Lubuntu is another option. | 13:28 |
| baizon | xubuntu is better :P | 13:28 |
| Ned_Flanders | there seems to be a concensus here for xbuntu | 13:28 |
| Ned_Flanders | i guess i should of read the chan name lol | 13:28 |
| Ned_Flanders | hang on | 13:29 |
| Wizard | :P | 13:29 |
| Ned_Flanders | why does Xubuntu website say its an operating system? | 13:29 |
| Genrawir | It's easy enough to try it out, just open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' then you can just log-out and pick it when you login. | 13:29 |
| Ned_Flanders | could u help me remove all traces of gnome/unity please | 13:30 |
| Ned_Flanders | how do i log out of unity btw | 13:30 |
| Ned_Flanders | ? | 13:31 |
| Ned_Flanders | there is no log out button | 13:32 |
| Wizard | There is logout option in this * button. | 13:32 |
| Genrawir | top right should be the power icon, if not terminal 'sudo shutdown -r now' will restart the computer. | 13:33 |
| Genrawir | That's not quite the same as logging out, since it is a full restart. | 13:34 |
| Ned_Flanders | should i shut down before uninstalling unity | 13:35 |
| Genrawir | You should install Xubuntu-desktop and then log in to it, and then uninstall unity from there. | 13:36 |
| Ned_Flanders | so is xubuntu an operating system or is it a desktop enviroment like gnome | 13:38 |
| Ned_Flanders | i am confused | 13:38 |
| Wizard | LOL | 13:39 |
| Ned_Flanders | sorry if that is very noob | 13:39 |
| Wizard | Ned_Flanders: Don't worry ;) | 13:40 |
| Genrawir | Well XFCE is the desktop, but it's based on Ubuntu (which is based on Debian) but you can install it without ever installing Unity. | 13:40 |
| Wizard | Yes, for more information about XFCE, visit their website or read Wikipedia article :) | 13:40 |
| Ned_Flanders | so i am just installing XFCE and not xubuntu now? | 13:41 |
| Wizard | Ah, yes and no. | 13:41 |
| Wizard | You don't get the point, let me explain. | 13:41 |
| Wizard | Ubuntu, as all Linux distros, is modular. | 13:42 |
| Genrawir | You should probably install the xubuntu-desktop package since it will pull in all the other stuff that Xubuntu uses. Just a bare XFCE install is quite sparse. | 13:42 |
| Wizard | You can install apps and services from repository, replace default apps and so. | 13:42 |
| Wizard | That is what Xubuntu is - Ubuntu with different set of applications. | 13:42 |
| Ned_Flanders | yes u get it | 13:43 |
| Ned_Flanders | so i dont need to rebuild my OStemplate | 13:43 |
| Wizard | Desktop is just a set of application, Xubuntu developers used XFCE. | 13:43 |
| Ned_Flanders | i* | 13:43 |
| Wizard | Nope, just install xubuntu-destkop | 13:43 |
| Wizard | It is a meta package containing dependencies to all software Xubuntu includes. | 13:43 |
| Ned_Flanders | what the terminal command to install it | 13:45 |
| Wizard | Uh, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 13:45 |
| Ned_Flanders | 382MB | 13:46 |
| Wizard | You can also download Xubuntu ISO and perform a clean install if you wish. | 13:46 |
| Ned_Flanders | o_0 | 13:46 |
| Wizard | What? | 13:47 |
| Ned_Flanders | as well as xubuntu-desktop? | 13:47 |
| Ned_Flanders | whats the difference between doing that and installing xubuntu-desktop then deleting all traces of unity/gnome | 13:48 |
| Ned_Flanders | it will be a clean install then won't it? | 13:48 |
| Wizard | It will be, but removing packages all packages will probably take longer than downloading ISO and installing system, especially if you use VM ;P | 13:49 |
| Wizard | But do what you like. | 13:49 |
| Ned_Flanders | well i already entered apt-get install xubuntu-desktop in the terminal | 13:49 |
| Ned_Flanders | but i want to do what you said | 13:49 |
| Wizard | Do what you like, it's your os. | 13:50 |
| Wizard | First steps in Ubuntu? | 13:50 |
| Ned_Flanders | yes | 13:50 |
| Ned_Flanders | Ok so if i download Xubuntu ISO it will overite everything? | 13:51 |
| Ned_Flanders | including unity and xubuntu-desktop that i just downloaded | 13:51 |
| Genrawir | Yes it will. | 13:51 |
| Ned_Flanders | ok whats the command | 13:51 |
| Wizard | The command of what? | 13:51 |
| Ned_Flanders | I wish to do that | 13:52 |
| Ned_Flanders | should i shut down unity first and do it in putty? | 13:53 |
| Ned_Flanders | shutdown -p | 13:54 |
| Wizard | What putty, for the god's sake? | 13:55 |
| Ned_Flanders | ssh client | 13:55 |
| Wizard | OK, ski jumping is back on air, see you later :P | 13:55 |
| Ned_Flanders | genrawir | 13:56 |
| Ned_Flanders | 13:46 Wizard • You can also download Xubuntu ISO and perform a clean install if you wish. | 13:56 |
| Ned_Flanders | how do i do this | 13:56 |
| Genrawir | If you download the ISO, burn it to disc and pop it in the drive it will install the OS... | 13:57 |
| Ned_Flanders | i dont have a disk | 13:57 |
| Ned_Flanders | cannot i not install it from terminal | 13:57 |
| Ned_Flanders | i have a vps | 13:58 |
| Genrawir | The command I mentioned will install xubuntu. | 13:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | your command was just for the desktop | 13:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | not for the xbuntu ISO | 13:58 |
| Genrawir | I guess I misunderstood your question. | 13:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | clean install overwrite | 13:59 |
| Ned_Flanders | I want to install xubuntu ISO clean install | 13:59 |
| Ned_Flanders | and overwrite everything | 13:59 |
| Ned_Flanders | whats the command ill enter it in my ssh client | 13:59 |
| Genrawir | The iso file is really for doing a desktop install. I don't have a VPS, but if I did I would just install the meta-package. | 14:01 |
| Ned_Flanders | yeah but wizzard said it will take longer to delete all the packages from unity | 14:02 |
| Genrawir | The only time I dealt with a VPS, the OS was preloaded by the host. | 14:02 |
| Ned_Flanders | my OS was preloaded with Ubuntu 12.4 | 14:02 |
| Ned_Flanders | thats what im using | 14:02 |
| Genrawir | So then just install the meta-package and be done with it. | 14:03 |
| Ned_Flanders | yeah i just did | 14:04 |
| Ned_Flanders | rebooting the system now :) | 14:04 |
| Ned_Flanders | then i need help removing all traces of unity/gnome | 14:04 |
| Ned_Flanders | if u dont mind | 14:05 |
| Ned_Flanders | damn it | 14:08 |
| Myrtti | why on earth would you have Unity and gnome on a vps? | 14:09 |
| Genrawir | I'm leaving to go shopping, but removing unity should simply be a 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop'. I should mention that this may remove some stuff you actually wanted, but you can always re-install | 14:10 |
| Ned_Flanders | ok thanks | 14:11 |
| Ned_Flanders | and why maybe because i want to use the desktop Myrtti | 14:11 |
| Myrtti | from a VPS? | 14:12 |
| Ned_Flanders | yea | 14:12 |
| Ned_Flanders | im changing to xubuntu though as it uses less ram | 14:12 |
| Ned_Flanders | unity was taking up so much | 14:12 |
| ronalds | Ned-Flanders, you might want to try openbox later | 14:21 |
| ronalds | it's super lightweight, doesn't comes with panals or icons, but can be added | 14:21 |
| ronalds | openbox+nitrogen+conky+tint2+nice startup script for it | 14:23 |
| ronalds | pcmanfm for file managing | 14:23 |
| ronalds | takes 4 % of ram without anything | 14:24 |
| Ned_Flanders | can it run things like java | 14:29 |
| Ned_Flanders | and firefox | 14:29 |
| Ned_Flanders | my xbuntu desktop just crashed when i closed the terminal wtf | 14:30 |
| Ned_Flanders | now i see a grey screen on my vnc | 14:32 |
| Ned_Flanders | im rebooting my vps because i don't know how to get out the grey screen | 14:35 |
| * Wizard yawns | 14:38 | |
| Ned_Flanders | xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) | 14:40 |
| Ned_Flanders | when i type startxfce4 | 14:41 |
| Ned_Flanders | Hello? | 14:42 |
| Ned_Flanders | !help | 14:42 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 14:42 |
| paparent | Hi ! Anyone has 'xfdesktop' using 100% of a cpu core? :( | 15:03 |
| Wizard | Ned_Flanders: ping | 15:10 |
| Wizard | paparent: Works fine for me :) | 15:10 |
| oid | Do any normal people use Linux or is it just for hardcore computer geeks? | 15:11 |
| Wizard | LOL, best question ever :D | 15:11 |
| paparent | I've that kept back: | 15:12 |
| paparent | The following packages have been kept back: xfdesktop4 (4.10.1-0ubuntu1~ppa0.12.04.1 => 4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ppa0.12.04.1) | 15:12 |
| Wizard | oid: It depends. My mom isn't a hadcore geek, but I installed Linux for her. | 15:12 |
| Wizard | paparent: apt-get dist-upgrade usually works ;] Remember that PPAs are not supported. | 15:13 |
| oid | Wizard: can she use it? | 15:13 |
| Wizard | System doesn't matter for her. She's a total n00b. Seems XFCE is much easier than Windows XP or Windows 7 :D | 15:14 |
| Wizard | My father also appreciated Xubuntu. | 15:14 |
| paparent | Wizard: Yeah, finally get some webpage explaining that... (doing dist-upgrade doesn'T help.. guess the new package isnt ready yet). | 15:15 |
| Wizard | In contrast, my colegues at work (professional coders) are totally lost in every single linux server side. | 15:16 |
| Wizard | Sad. | 15:16 |
| Wizard | oid: Xubuntu is pretty straightforward if it comes about daily tasks. Real problems start when people think of Linux as "Free Mac OS".. | 15:18 |
| Wizard | Or "Free Windows" or actually of anything which Linux isn't, wasn't and never will be. | 15:18 |
| scottbomb | testing iso | 15:36 |
| Ned_Flanders | wizard are u there? | 16:52 |
| Ned_Flanders | ? | 16:55 |
| xubuntu832 | help | 17:10 |
| xubuntu832 | just downloaded xbuntu made an image but It wont boot on an old laptop | 17:10 |
| xubuntu832 | jemand da anybody here??? | 17:11 |
| Genrawir | xubuntu832: Where does it fail? I assume you set the BIOS to boot from CD? | 17:13 |
| Genrawir | xubuntu832: I also personally prefer to install from a netinst iso, since a liveCD is often a bad idea on old hardware. | 17:15 |
| Dantas_ | hello, which program do i use to set up my wireless card as an access point? | 17:25 |
| koegs | Dantas_: hostapd | 17:25 |
| Dantas_ | thank you koegs :) | 17:26 |
| Wizard | Ned_Flanders: I had to go out. | 17:42 |
| * Wizard yawns. | 17:43 | |
| Sir_Leto | umm, I've completely screweed up audio trying to get bluetooth to work, how do I get everything back to default? | 17:43 |
| Sir_Leto | would an apt-get purge and reinstall work? | 17:44 |
| Wizard | Yes, if you messed with files in /etc. | 17:44 |
| Wizard | Watch out for dependencies. | 17:44 |
| Wizard | Alas, reinstalling packages is not the best option. | 17:45 |
| Wizard | Guys, is it possible to create NAT by clicking it out from network manager or should I abandon all hope and use iptables magic instead? | 17:51 |
| Sir_Leto | fixed | 17:51 |
| xubuntu487 | ? | 17:53 |
| === Dantas_ is now known as Ormus | ||
| Wizard | Seems it is possible! | 17:55 |
| Wizard | It even created DHCP server automatically o_O' | 17:56 |
| Wizard | And.. everything without giving any root password. Amazing. | 17:59 |
| xubuntu099 | Hi Guys | 18:35 |
| Ned_Flanders | Wizard | 18:38 |
| Ned_Flanders | I installed xubuntu-destkop | 18:46 |
| Ned_Flanders | how come I see XFCE | 18:47 |
| baizon | Ned_Flanders: xubuntu uses xfce as DE, thats the reason | 18:48 |
| Wizard | Because XFCE is Xubuntu's desktop. | 18:48 |
| Wizard | Ned_Flanders: Could you write what do you want to achieve? | 18:49 |
| Ned_Flanders | ok | 18:57 |
| Ned_Flanders | its just when i looked at google pictures of xunbutu desktop | 18:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | they were different | 18:58 |
| Wizard | Different? | 18:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | to how xfce looked | 18:58 |
| Ned_Flanders | but if its the same thing then great | 18:58 |
| Wizard | Hmm.. How different? | 18:59 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: my xfce does not look like default either , I changed it | 18:59 |
| Ned_Flanders | is it possible to change the theme | 19:02 |
| SunStar | http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes | 19:02 |
| Ned_Flanders | mine doesn't look anything like the screenshots on http://xubuntu.org/ | 19:02 |
| Wizard | If you changed it.. | 19:02 |
| Wizard | Mine doesn't look either. | 19:03 |
| Ned_Flanders | i havent changed it yet | 19:03 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: have you check the "About" in the menu | 19:04 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: maybe you installed something else by accident | 19:06 |
| Ned_Flanders | version 4.8 | 19:07 |
| Wizard | recon_lap: I'll wait for his screenshot. | 19:08 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: and way it a clean install, or have you change the wm in a ubuntu install | 19:08 |
| recon_lap | way/was | 19:08 |
| Ned_Flanders | screenshot: http://i47.tinypic.com/2wm270z.png | 19:11 |
| Ned_Flanders | i did 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' | 19:12 |
| Ned_Flanders | then deleted unity/gnome | 19:12 |
| Wizard | Looks pretty default. | 19:15 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: well that looks like the default xfce screen, the one you saw is probably tweaked by the XUbuntu team on the xubuntu install. | 19:15 |
| Ned_Flanders | oh | 19:15 |
| Ned_Flanders | well thats ok | 19:15 |
| recon_lap | xfce package != xubuntu | 19:15 |
| Wizard | Yuck, VM. | 19:16 |
| Ned_Flanders | it almost had me thinking xbuntu desktop and xfce were to different things | 19:16 |
| Ned_Flanders | became xfce has its own website too | 19:16 |
| Ned_Flanders | and it looked different | 19:16 |
| SunStar | they are | 19:16 |
| Ned_Flanders | *gives up on life* | 19:17 |
| SunStar | xubuntu is an OS, xfce is a GUI you can use on pretty much any distro | 19:18 |
| SunStar | xubuntu uses xfce by default | 19:18 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: xubuntu uses xfce, ubuntu uses unity. | 19:18 |
| Ned_Flanders | i have xubuntu installed on my ubuntu ostemplate | 19:19 |
| SunStar | so now you have xfce and all the default apps that come with xubuntu | 19:20 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: you have xfce installed on ubuntu, it's not quite xubuntu | 19:20 |
| Ned_Flanders | so i dont have the true xubuntu desktop? | 19:20 |
| Ned_Flanders | i thought i did have xubuntu when i installed 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' | 19:20 |
| SunStar | you have a mashup between ubuntu and xubuntu (it doesnt really matter.) | 19:21 |
| recon_lap | Ned_Flanders: you've got the desktop. but there is probably a lot of odd ubuntu stuff under the hood not being used | 19:21 |
| SunStar | its basicly the same but you have a mix of the ubuntu default apps and the xubuntu default apps | 19:21 |
| SunStar | no big deal | 19:21 |
| Ned_Flanders | good to hear | 19:22 |
| Ned_Flanders | well i can sleep easy at night now knowing that i have the true xubuntu desktop that all xubuntu's use | 19:22 |
| Ned_Flanders | i deleted all the unity jazz | 19:23 |
| Ned_Flanders | i guess some guy was wondering the same thing as me http://askubuntu.com/questions/91380/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuxfce-and-xubuntu | 19:27 |
| Ned_Flanders | im quite happy with xubuntu though its using alot less RAM than unity | 19:35 |
| nantou | what is the best way to download ed2k files? | 22:48 |
| === notRosencrantz is now known as Guildenstern | ||
| xubuntu708 | magyar van köztetek? | 23:30 |
| knome | !hu | xubuntu708 | 23:30 |
| ubottu | xubuntu708: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál | 23:30 |
| xubuntu708 | kösz | 23:31 |
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