[14:15] <gary_poster> jujugui hiya.  (1) who is here for a call today? (2) we are in timezone limbo for a few weeks.  does anyone care strongly if, during these next few weeks when the US gets super-excited about daylight savings time before everyone else, we start in 15 minutes vs. 1 hour and 15 minutes?
[14:16] <bcsaller> I'm here and any time that works for people is fine with me
[14:16] <gary_poster> cool thanks
[14:16] <Makyo> I'm here, any time's fine, so long as I'm pinged.
[14:17] <frankban> 1) I am here and 2) any time is fine, ESTA begins on 31.03
[14:28] <gary_poster> cool guys.  bcsaller, Makyo, frankban (jujugui) let's talk in 2
[14:34] <matsubara> hatch, hey there, I see that you got some green lights on that jenkins job. Everything going well?
[14:34] <hatch> matsubara: yes but there is an issue with things happening out of order
[14:35] <matsubara> hatch, something I can help with?
[14:39] <hatch> umm I'm not sure
[14:39] <hatch> hah
[14:40] <hatch> is the console display representative of the real shell console?
[14:50] <frankban> Makyo: hangout in 10?
[14:50] <Makyo> frankban, sure
[14:51] <frankban> cool Makyo: http://tinyurl.com/see-emily-code in 10
[14:55] <Makyo> rick_h_, Thanks for the suggestion.  System Sounds were at 0, which wasn't shown by alsamixer.
[14:56] <rick_h_> Makyo: awesome
[15:04] <gary_poster> Makyo, bcsaller frankban would appreciate two reviews of https://codereview.appspot.com/7641051
[15:04] <bcsaller> gary_poster: I can review that 
[15:04]  * gary_poster makes card
[15:04] <gary_poster> thank you
[15:06] <gary_poster> card is in top lane
[15:48] <gary_poster> therve, any word on GUI + Landscape?
[15:48] <therve> gary_poster, what kind of word? :)
[15:49] <gary_poster> therve, lol, like, is it working together?  
[15:49] <therve> gary_poster, is the release out?
[15:51] <gary_poster> therve, no, thought you were going to be able to use trunk.  I'll ping you when we have release then.  second question: if we were to make an optimization that required you to annotate services with the aggregated/summarized unit information (just the flags) how hard would that be?  I guess bark estimate of hours, days, or weeks
[15:51] <gary_poster> heh
[15:51] <gary_poster> s/bark/ballpark/
[15:51] <therve> yeah trunk seemed to fail for some reasons I think
[15:52] <gary_poster> therve, we are talking post demo to be clear
[15:52] <gary_poster> therve, ok cool, we'll release and ping you
[15:52] <therve> gary_poster, you mean change the format for alert annotations?
[15:52] <gary_poster> I think charmhelpers had a backwards incompatibility which brought the whole collection down when you tried to deploy.  Think it's fixed, but will know soon enough.
[15:53] <gary_poster> therve, not quite: add two annotations.  Right now you annnotate units that need reboots or security upgrades.  It would be nice for a bigger optimization in the future if we also had those annotations on the services themselves
[15:54] <therve> oh I see
[15:54] <gary_poster> so, if any of a service's units needs a reboot, for instance, the service also has that flag
[15:54] <therve> let me make a quick code introspection :)
[15:55] <gary_poster> :-) thanks
[15:56] <therve> gary_poster, it looks like it should be fairly easy. Maybe a couple of hours of coding, so 1 day with reviews and QA
[15:57] <gary_poster> therve, awesome!  ok, we don't need it now, but I'll keep that in my backpocket for future discussions about the optimization.  Thank you!  If you ever feel like adding that beforehand, let me know, 'cause then we'd rip out some code on our side.
[15:58] <therve> gary_poster, sure no problem
[16:30] <rick_h_> hatch: ping, have any knowledge/example aroung testing with valuechange event? simulate refuses to simulate it. 
[16:31] <gary_poster> I think he's out today rick_h_ 
[16:33] <rick_h_> gary_poster: ah ok. I saw him online this morning to figured I'd try
[16:35] <Makyo> gary_poster, ping
[16:35] <gary_poster> Makyo, hi
[16:36] <Makyo> gary_poster, Going through your branch, +1.  I'm curious if you found docs on the .lbox file, though.  I'm going through the source code now, and just have more questions :)
[16:37] <gary_poster> Makyo, heh, no idea about.lbox, copied and mutated from juju-core :-P
[16:38] <Makyo> gary_poster, alright, seems to work there, so no biggie.  Doesn't seem like it'd work from the source, but it certainly works in core, so bonus :D
[16:38] <gary_poster> Makyo, :-)
[16:38] <gary_poster> it worked for me when I submitted juju-gui fwiw
[16:39] <gary_poster> with this branch I mean
[16:39] <hatch> rick_h_: http://jsbin.com/etisaq/1/edit  (but I'm not here ;) )
[16:41] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, that fails to trigger the valuechange. We can chat tomorrow if you get a chance. I'll work around that part for this afternoon.
[16:42] <hatch> are you using valueChange or valuechange?
[16:43] <rick_h_> hatch: hmm, that works in FF though. So maybe I've hit a chrome issue
[16:43] <hatch> I wrote that bin in chrome using valueChange
[16:43] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, don't worry about it atm. I'll investigate browsers/etc. 
[16:43] <hatch> alrighty
[16:43]  * hatch goes back to house duties from the past week :)
[16:43] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, I was using valuechange since it's lower case in the api docs
[16:44] <rick_h_> but that bin failed for me in chrome dev, worked in FF nightly
[16:44] <hatch> hmm
[16:44] <hatch> odd - I wrote it in Chrome
[16:44] <rick_h_> hatch: version?
[16:44] <hatch> OSX 25.01264.152
[16:44] <rick_h_> hatch: I'm on 27 dev...so could be a small bug in dev version
[16:45] <hatch> yeah that's possible
[16:45] <rick_h_> so yea, have fun. Sorry to bug you on off day 
[16:45] <rick_h_> thanks!
[16:45] <hatch> np :) ping me back if you can't find the bug and I can take another look
[18:02] <frankban> Add the current cobzr branch to the prompt. Not very efficient, but can prevent working/committing to the wrong branch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5605451/
[18:03] <gary_poster> nice frankban, thanks
[18:03] <gary_poster> frankban, deserves a quick email at the least.  Will you send it ir do you want me to?
[18:03] <gary_poster> or
[18:05] <frankban> EOD gary_poster, please do it thanks. That snippet requires bzr to be an alias for cobzr, but it's easy to change if that's not the case.
[18:05] <gary_poster> ack frankban, thanks!  I'll send it
[18:06] <gary_poster> have a great evening
[18:06] <frankban> thanks gary_poster, you too
[18:37] <gary_poster> Makyo, LGTM as is.  
[18:38] <gary_poster> Thnank you
[18:38] <Makyo> gary_poster, Thanks.
[19:21] <Makyo> guihelp: is it one or two reviews for a paired branch?
[19:21] <gary_poster> Makyo, one
[19:21] <Makyo> gary_poster, Oh, bonus.  Thanks :)
[19:21] <gary_poster> :-) 
[21:17]  * Makyo -> dogwalk