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pittiGood morning06:42
dholbachgood morning07:35
jibelgood morning08:05
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vibhavgood morning10:20
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shnatselpitti: Thanks a lot for the dev week session on quality control! I couldn't attend but I've read up the logs.15:53
shnatselI hope I'll be able to help with autopkgtests after elementary's next release15:54
pittihello shnatsel; nice!15:54
shnatselpitti: on a less positive note, I'm getting "outdated debug symbol package" errors in Apport retracing again. I hear the plan was to move ddebs to Launchpad? Is my sandbox outdated or there are known issues with ddebs.u.c?15:56
pittiyeah, that move didn't happen yet15:56
pittithere are lots of issues with ddebs.u.c. :(15:56
shnatselanything I can do to help?15:57
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balloonspitti, you still about? any reason why apport-cli would complain about missing launchpadlib when it's installed?16:28
pittiballoons: yeah, you need to install python-launchpadlib, as it says16:28
pittiballoons: we still don't have a python3-launchpadlib, but barry wanted to drop the dependency, so that python2 falls off the CD16:28
pittihence that workaround16:28
pittiballoons: but do you actually mean apport-cli, not apport-bug?16:29
pittierr, apport-collect?16:29
balloonsyes, apport-cli16:29
pittibecause apport-bug and apport-cli for crash reports should work just fine16:29
pittiballoons: what's the full command line?16:29
balloonsi have python-launchpadlib installed16:29
balloonsapport-cli -u 104400216:29
balloonsERROR: The launchpadlib Python module is not installed. This functionality is not available.16:29
pittiballoons: oh, can you pastebin the full output then?16:29
pittiballoons: do you have python3-launchpadlib?16:29
balloonsthat's probably it16:30
balloonsbut where to get it?16:30
balloonsit's not in the archive (at least for me on raring016:30
pittiballoons: sorry, ignore me; I'm in a meeting, not much spare brain power16:30
balloonspitti, :-)16:31
pittiballoons: apport-collect 104400216:31
balloonspitti, after the meetin -- we should talk about why apport-cli fails.. is it deprecated, etc, or what.. thanks!16:32
pittiballoons: it's because we don't have a python3 launchpadlib16:32
pittibut apport-cli is python316:32
pittiapport-collect is #!/usr/bin/python (python2) for that reason16:33
balloonspitti, yes.. but will we at some point, and are we tracking that issue?16:33
pittiI don't know, TBH16:35
balloonspitti, kk, i reported it.. I see only this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/106073416:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 1060734 in launchpadlib "Support for Python 3" [Low,Triaged]16:50
pittithat /url 116:51
pittithat sounds good, thanks16:52
balloonspitti, ty.. hopefully i've gotten it right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/115367116:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1153671 in Apport "Apport-cli depends on python3-launchpadlib for some actions, but it is not installable" [Undecided,New]16:55
pittiballoons: well, that's pretty much a dupe of 1060734 then17:00
balloonspitti, yea, depending on how you view it.. your part of the apport team, you can dupe it or not ;-)17:01
balloonsI'd like to see the error message be more clear17:02
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Noskcajballoons, xubuntu have a beta 1 email sent out already. do you want it forwarded to ubuntu-quality and lubuntu-qa?19:29
balloonsNoskcaj, I was waiting for everything to land19:30
Noskcajok19:30
balloonsi haven't checked in the last few mins19:30
Noskcajballoons, is gnubuntu going to make it in time for beta 1?19:32
balloonsjbicha would know about gnobuntu19:33
Noskcajjust read on webupd8, they aren't releasing it till the end of march for testing19:34
balloonsthere you go ;-)  hadn't heard anything about it19:34
balloonsso i assumed nothing yet19:34
Noskcajmorning phillw19:39
Noskcaji am now proudly the only person on #ubuntu-quality-chat, except for meetingbot19:40
phillwNoskcaj: I've been having connectivity issues. and meetingbot will soon vanish as I have a reboot coming up.19:41
Noskcajok19:41
balloonsNoskcaj, phillw lolololol19:43
Noskcajso far meetingbot doesn't want to be my friend19:44
phillwCentOS 6.4 landed today.... talk about timing!19:44
Noskcajlol19:44
phillwballoons: can you keep an ear open for a reply from colin watson on -release. I'm having a bad connectivity time since the power cuts earlier in the day.19:52
balloonsphillw, sure.. we're all wating for stuff to land19:53
balloonsit'll happen today sometime19:53
balloonsLetozaf_, hello!19:53
Letozaf_balloons, hello :D19:53
Letozaf_balloons, howzit ?19:54
balloonsnot too bad19:55
balloonsexciting stuff today19:56
Letozaf_balloons, what, where ?19:56
phillwballoons: we had a build failure for alternates, as it is beta 1 RC day, Colin took the wise course of getting something to eat :D19:56
balloonswell beta1.. and i'm looking at launching up our core apps testing for ubuntu touch19:56
Letozaf_balloons, great!19:56
Letozaf_balloons, I was about to ask you if you preferred me to test beta1 or do something with autopilot, file-roller, for instance19:57
Letozaf_balloons, but I suppose you prefer me to test beta1 :D19:57
balloonsLetozaf_, I prefer you to have fun first and foremost :-) hehe19:58
balloonspersonally though, i like to mix and match19:58
balloonsso test beta1 when it comes, mess with autopilot as usual.. and check out core apps testing if it interests you.. don't overload yourself, but pick and choose what's most interesting19:58
balloonsbeta1 isos are the most pressing, having a deadline ofc :-19:59
Letozaf_balloons, ok I will go for beta1, If I could I would do everything but time is the only problem :D20:01
balloonsLetozaf_, yes.. don't try and do everything please :-)20:01
Letozaf_balloons, sure! lol20:02
Letozaf_balloons, I'm not multitasking like balloons :D20:02
balloonssometimes i forget my name20:03
Letozaf_:D20:04
Letozaf_balloons, is it ok for this download to be missing ? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39378/downloads (Ubuntu Core armhf)20:18
balloonsLetozaf_, weird20:19
balloonswhat happened to it20:19
Letozaf_balloons, don't know.. was looking around to decide what to test20:19
Letozaf_balloons, looks like it is in here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20130311/20:20
balloonslet me look at fixing20:20
balloonst never had a dl link20:20
balloonsso odd20:20
balloonsLetozaf_, look now20:24
balloonsbah, link is broken..20:24
balloonsbut I made it show20:24
* balloons tries again20:24
balloonsday is wrong..20:25
Letozaf_balloons, I was about to write it20:25
Letozaf_balloons, but you're too quick20:25
balloonsk, ;link works20:26
balloonsthe day being off is harder20:26
balloonsstgraber, can we blame timechange.. why is the day off on the autofill for downloads?20:30
stgraberballoons: ? (what's autofill for downloads?)20:31
balloonsstgraber, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39378/downloads20:31
balloonsi mean the VERSION complete20:31
balloonsfor dates20:31
stgraberballoons: ah, that's probably because today's failed to build20:31
balloonsstgraber, ahh.. I was too quick to blame20:32
stgraberthe tracker doesn't do any kind of timestamp magic, it just shows the version string it received from the build machine20:32
stgraberso if the build number wasn't incremented, it's usually because there wasn't a build20:32
balloonsI do see a valid build here tho; http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20130311/20:33
balloonsseemingly so20:33
balloonslet's see if it built20:33
balloonsas far as i can tell it did20:35
balloonsthoughts stgraber ?20:35
balloonsthe other ones are correct.. must be somethng with the ubuntu core ones20:35
balloonskk, anyways, thanksfor the help20:36
balloonsLetozaf_, i hope your all set now20:36
stgraberballoons: odd... maybe it failed to publish to the tracker then... the logs don't show anything relevant though so it's hard to tell20:37
stgraberballoons: and other dailies appear to be fine, so it's not a generic thing20:37
Letozaf_balloons, yeah look like :D20:37
balloonsyes exactly.. everything but core is fine20:38
Letozaf_balloons, but, not sure I'm doing it write but, after chrooting into core and launching apt-get update when I launch, for instance, apt-get install ubuntu-calendar-app I get this error:  E: unable to locate package ubuntu-calendar-app20:56
Letozaf_right not write :)20:57
balloonsLetozaf_, ohh you want to play?20:57
Letozaf_balloons, of course!20:57
Letozaf_balloons, you give me a toy and don't want me to play ?20:58
balloonsLetozaf_, k21:01
balloonslet me help21:01
balloonsyou on quantal or raring?21:02
Letozaf_balloons, raring21:02
balloonssudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa21:02
balloonssudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install qtlocation5-dev qt5-default21:02
Letozaf_balloons, but in the core chroot or in normal raring filesystem ?21:03
balloonsLetozaf_, ohh21:03
balloonsI get it now.. no, you can do it on your main system21:03
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:03
balloonsdon't need a specal iso or anythng21:03
balloonsthen, once those thngs are installed, you can grab packages from this ppa21:04
balloonsbut since it's quantal only, probably should just branch the code instead for the moment21:04
balloonstry the calculator first21:04
Letozaf_balloons, ok thanks... I-m trying..21:05
Letozaf_balloons, I can do it on quantal, got that too21:06
balloonsi'm on raring, so :-)21:06
Letozaf_balloons, ah!ok!21:06
balloonsbzr branch lp:ubuntu-calculator-app21:07
balloonsthen you can run it from the directory you branched it in21:07
balloonsit should pop-up ;-)21:07
balloonsthe touch interface is present too.. click and drag your mouse21:08
* Letozaf_ is waiting for apt-get update to finish ...21:08
balloonskk21:09
* Letozaf_ waiting for apt-get install...21:09
Letozaf_balloons, so I branched ubuntu-calculator-app21:14
balloonsk21:14
balloonscd into it and give it a run21:14
balloons./ubuntu-calculator-app21:14
balloonsand boom.. should pop-up21:14
Letozaf_balloons, yes but I get an error:21:14
balloonsk21:15
balloonswhat error?21:15
Letozaf_qmlscene:could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene: No such file or directory21:15
balloonsinteresting21:16
Letozaf_balloons, sorry had to copy it IRC is on another pc :)21:16
balloonsyou installed qtlocation5-dev qt5-default?21:16
balloonstry installing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk21:16
* Letozaf_ is waiting for sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ...21:17
balloonsi'm trying to pin down things here21:17
balloonsweird it didn't work for you21:17
balloonsif installing that works, then we'll have to see what the deal is with what is needed21:18
balloonshey chilicuil21:18
Letozaf_balloons, could it be I just switched on my laptop and didn't apply the latest updates yet ?21:18
Letozaf_:(21:18
balloonsLetozaf_, shouldn't matter21:19
Letozaf_balloons, ah ok!21:19
balloonsdid it work after installing ubuntu-sdk/21:19
* Letozaf_ still waiting for apt-get install..21:19
Letozaf_balloons, yessss!!! it worked !21:21
Letozaf_balloons, oh! no! wait21:21
balloonsLetozaf_, now the question is what were you missing21:21
balloonso?21:21
Letozaf_balloons, a window opened but it-s title is : "Open QML file" ...21:22
Letozaf_balloons, o?21:22
Letozaf_balloons, should I open calculator.qml ??21:22
Letozaf_balloons, well it doesn't matter, don't want to "waist your time" I will try it when everything is set ...21:24
Letozaf_balloons, I was curious !21:24
balloonsLetozaf_, you can run qmlscene ./ubuntu-calculator-app/calculator.qml &21:25
balloonsor just cd in and rn the app directoy21:25
balloons*drectly21:25
Letozaf_balloons, ok let me try :)21:25
balloonscd ubuntu-calculator-app21:25
balloons./ubuntu-calculator-app21:25
Letozaf_balloons, it's weired I am in ubuntu-calculator-app directory21:26
Letozaf_and if I run ./ubuntu-calculator-app from there21:27
Letozaf_balloons, I get that same window21:27
Letozaf_balloons, asking me for a QML file21:27
Letozaf_balloons, if I run qmlscene ./ubuntu-calculator-app calculator.qml &    I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/560607621:30
balloonsohh21:30
balloonsyour missing something21:30
balloonsone sec21:30
balloonsLetozaf_, try just installing the deb build.. it will pull the missing stuff: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+files/ubuntu-calculator-app_0.1%2Bbzr26quantal1_amd64.deb21:32
Letozaf_balloons, ok let me copy this stuff...21:33
Letozaf_balloons, does not work  it says no such file or directory///21:35
yofelstgraber: hi. As you seem to have been working on both: we've been trying to use the LXC backend of the auto-upgrade-testing scripts for kubuntu but without much success.21:36
yofelIt runs fine until it tries to set up the 3.8 kernel where it fails because grub-probe runs inside LXC which shouldn't happen.21:36
yofelFrom what I've tested running-in-container works fine (it even works in the upgrade a few packages earlier for apparmor), so I'm now lost on how to debug this.21:36
balloonsLetozaf_, this/ qmlscene: could not open config file '/usr/share/qtchooser//default.conf': No such file or directory21:36
stgraberyofel: hmm, that's odd because grub-probe was definitely fixed to avoid that crash...21:37
Letozaf_balloons, no that deb build you gave me...21:37
stgraberyofel: did you try with a clean cache (wiping /var/cache/lxc/*)?21:37
balloonsLetozaf_, right.. but nothing runs?21:38
Letozaf_balloons, wait got it21:38
yofelstgraber: wiped it last 2 days ago, but I can do it again if something has changed since then21:39
Letozaf_balloons, just a second..21:39
stgraberyofel: hmm, no, that bug was fixed months ago (or should have been...)21:39
yofelstgraber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606098/ line 5551 is where it fails21:39
Letozaf_balloons, the deb build is installing...21:40
yofelas I said, the apparmor restart is correctly prevented a few packages before that, so I totally don't get what's wrong21:40
balloonsk21:40
Letozaf_balloons, hurray!!!!21:40
Letozaf_got the calculator21:40
balloonsLetozaf_, imporantly21:41
balloonswhat did it install as part of the deb/21:41
balloons?21:41
balloonswhat other packages?21:41
Letozaf_balloons,let me have a look21:41
stgraberyofel: odd... I'm running an upgrade test for kubuntu amd64 now here, let's see if I get the same thing then21:42
Letozaf_balloons, argh! do not know as I used software center to install the deb package :(21:42
yofelthanks21:42
balloonslol21:42
balloonslook at history21:42
balloonsin the software center21:43
Letozaf_balloons, the files / directories seem the same in the ubuntu-calculator-app folder21:43
Letozaf_balloons, can the history of software center help ?21:47
Letozaf_balloons, the last package installed was qtdeclarative5-localstorage-plugin(5.0.1-0ubuntu1.automatic)21:47
balloonsyes21:48
balloonsthat's what you need21:48
balloonsthat was the missing package21:48
balloonsty21:48
balloonsk.. anyways, your up and running21:48
balloonshehe21:48
balloonsenjoy.. you should be able to play with anything in this ppa21:48
Letozaf_balloons, yes!! great! nice!21:48
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages21:48
balloonsit's quantal only builds, but they run fine on raring. .it will be updated to have raring builds so you don't have to manually dl them soon21:49
balloonsa fair warning.. many of them might not work21:49
balloonsthey are all being heavily developed right now21:49
Letozaf_balloons, ok, must I tell you wich ones don't work ?21:50
Letozaf_balloons, or must I let go as they are working on them ?21:50
balloonsyes.. no worries if they don't work21:52
Letozaf_balloons, fine21:52
balloonscalendar and calc, atm, do..21:52
balloonsanyways, our goal is to write some tests and then tests these core apps21:53
Letozaf_balloons, but is it the same using the mouse instead of touch ?21:54
balloonsLetozaf_, yep.. for instance, click the right side of the app, and drag to the middle21:54
balloonsit's the same as a side swip21:54
balloonsand it should switch screens ;-)21:54
Letozaf_balloons, yeah true :)21:55
Letozaf_balloons, also calendar works for me :)21:56
Letozaf_balloons, nice!! thanks!!!21:56
Letozaf_balloons, it's late now... I will play more tomorrow :) thank your for letting me play :D21:57
stgraberyofel: Profile 'stgraber-profile/kubuntu-amd64' worked22:06
stgraberyofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606177/22:07
yofelhum, you do get the same error, but it's not fatal o.O22:08
stgraberyofel: hmm, it's actually weird that the postinst fails... that shouldn't happen. I'll have to talk with cjwatson because the recent grub2 upload was supposed to fix that...22:10
yofelok thanks, please ping me once you know more22:11
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shadeslayerstgraber: btw I have the auto-upgrade tester setup using EC2 over here : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ : and even though it failed, it says the upgrade went OK23:28
shadeslayerstgraber: http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/kubuntu-backports/apt-term.log < says cloud-init 0.7.0-0ubuntu2.3 failed to upgrade23:29
shadeslayerso there's clearly some issue with the code23:30
stgrabershadeslayer: I'm not sure whether anyone actually uses the EC2 backend, so that may explain why ;)23:30
shadeslayerouch23:30
shadeslayerstgraber: what's the recommended backend? LXC?23:31
shadeslayerit's just that using EC2 seems so simple :)23:31
stgrabershadeslayer: QEMU and LXC are the two most widely used. QEMU is used by Canonical and LXC is used by me for the flavour upgrading testing23:33
shadeslayerokay, and do you have a page with the test results for the flavors?23:33
shadeslayeriirc there was some issue with QEMU that I can't recall at the moment23:34
shadeslayeryofel: ^ Do you remember what it was?23:34
yofelno, was trying to remember what it was too23:34
shadeslayerheh :p23:35
shadeslayerbut yeah, we tried using QEMU for Kubuntu, didn't work out, I don't recall why23:35
yofeloh fun, the LXC upgrade test checks whether upgrade() works, which for LXC always returns True.23:37
yofelno wonder the script tells me the upgrade went fine o.O23:37
shadeslayerlol23:40
shadeslayeryofel: same for EC223:42
yofelheh23:43
shadeslayershouldn't it return return (ret == 0)23:45
shadeslayerthat's 'two' many returns :P23:45
yofelI would assume so23:45
shadeslayeryofel: add it to our branch?23:56
yofelshadeslayer: go ahead (for both)23:58
shadeslayerack23:59

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