[06:42] <pitti> Good morning
[07:35] <dholbach> good morning
[08:05] <jibel> good morning
[10:20] <vibhav> good morning
[15:53] <shnatsel> pitti: Thanks a lot for the dev week session on quality control! I couldn't attend but I've read up the logs.
[15:54] <shnatsel> I hope I'll be able to help with autopkgtests after elementary's next release
[15:54] <pitti> hello shnatsel; nice!
[15:56] <shnatsel> pitti: on a less positive note, I'm getting "outdated debug symbol package" errors in Apport retracing again. I hear the plan was to move ddebs to Launchpad? Is my sandbox outdated or there are known issues with ddebs.u.c?
[15:56] <pitti> yeah, that move didn't happen yet
[15:56] <pitti> there are lots of issues with ddebs.u.c. :(
[15:57] <shnatsel> anything I can do to help?
[16:28] <balloons> pitti, you still about? any reason why apport-cli would complain about missing launchpadlib when it's installed?
[16:28] <pitti> balloons: yeah, you need to install python-launchpadlib, as it says
[16:28] <pitti> balloons: we still don't have a python3-launchpadlib, but barry wanted to drop the dependency, so that python2 falls off the CD
[16:28] <pitti> hence that workaround
[16:29] <pitti> balloons: but do you actually mean apport-cli, not apport-bug?
[16:29] <pitti> err, apport-collect?
[16:29] <balloons> yes, apport-cli
[16:29] <pitti> because apport-bug and apport-cli for crash reports should work just fine
[16:29] <pitti> balloons: what's the full command line?
[16:29] <balloons> i have python-launchpadlib installed
[16:29] <balloons> apport-cli -u 1044002
[16:29] <balloons> ERROR: The launchpadlib Python module is not installed. This functionality is not available.
[16:29] <pitti> balloons: oh, can you pastebin the full output then?
[16:29] <pitti> balloons: do you have python3-launchpadlib?
[16:30] <balloons> that's probably it
[16:30] <balloons> but where to get it?
[16:30] <balloons> it's not in the archive (at least for me on raring0
[16:30] <pitti> balloons: sorry, ignore me; I'm in a meeting, not much spare brain power
[16:31] <balloons> pitti, :-)
[16:31] <pitti> balloons: apport-collect 1044002
[16:32] <balloons> pitti, after the meetin -- we should talk about why apport-cli fails.. is it deprecated, etc, or what.. thanks!
[16:32] <pitti> balloons: it's because we don't have a python3 launchpadlib
[16:32] <pitti> but apport-cli is python3
[16:33] <pitti> apport-collect is #!/usr/bin/python (python2) for that reason
[16:33] <balloons> pitti, yes.. but will we at some point, and are we tracking that issue?
[16:35] <pitti> I don't know, TBH
[16:50] <balloons> pitti, kk, i reported it.. I see only this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/1060734
[16:51] <pitti> that /url 1
[16:52] <pitti> that sounds good, thanks
[16:55] <balloons> pitti, ty.. hopefully i've gotten it right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/1153671
[17:00] <pitti> balloons: well, that's pretty much a dupe of 1060734 then
[17:01] <balloons> pitti, yea, depending on how you view it.. your part of the apport team, you can dupe it or not ;-)
[17:02] <balloons> I'd like to see the error message be more clear
[19:29] <Noskcaj> balloons, xubuntu have a beta 1 email sent out already. do you want it forwarded to ubuntu-quality and lubuntu-qa?
[19:30] <balloons> Noskcaj, I was waiting for everything to land
[19:30] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:30] <balloons> i haven't checked in the last few mins
[19:32] <Noskcaj> balloons, is gnubuntu going to make it in time for beta 1?
[19:33] <balloons> jbicha would know about gnobuntu
[19:34] <Noskcaj> just read on webupd8, they aren't releasing it till the end of march for testing
[19:34] <balloons> there you go ;-)  hadn't heard anything about it
[19:34] <balloons> so i assumed nothing yet
[19:39] <Noskcaj> morning phillw
[19:40] <Noskcaj> i am now proudly the only person on #ubuntu-quality-chat, except for meetingbot
[19:41] <phillw> Noskcaj: I've been having connectivity issues. and meetingbot will soon vanish as I have a reboot coming up.
[19:41] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:43] <balloons> Noskcaj, phillw lolololol
[19:44] <Noskcaj> so far meetingbot doesn't want to be my friend
[19:44] <phillw> CentOS 6.4 landed today.... talk about timing!
[19:44] <Noskcaj> lol
[19:52] <phillw> balloons: can you keep an ear open for a reply from colin watson on -release. I'm having a bad connectivity time since the power cuts earlier in the day.
[19:53] <balloons> phillw, sure.. we're all wating for stuff to land
[19:53] <balloons> it'll happen today sometime
[19:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello!
[19:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, hello :D
[19:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, howzit ?
[19:55] <balloons> not too bad
[19:56] <balloons> exciting stuff today
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, what, where ?
[19:56] <phillw> balloons: we had a build failure for alternates, as it is beta 1 RC day, Colin took the wise course of getting something to eat :D
[19:56] <balloons> well beta1.. and i'm looking at launching up our core apps testing for ubuntu touch
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, great!
[19:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was about to ask you if you preferred me to test beta1 or do something with autopilot, file-roller, for instance
[19:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, but I suppose you prefer me to test beta1 :D
[19:58] <balloons> Letozaf_, I prefer you to have fun first and foremost :-) hehe
[19:58] <balloons> personally though, i like to mix and match
[19:58] <balloons> so test beta1 when it comes, mess with autopilot as usual.. and check out core apps testing if it interests you.. don't overload yourself, but pick and choose what's most interesting
[19:59] <balloons> beta1 isos are the most pressing, having a deadline ofc :-
[20:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will go for beta1, If I could I would do everything but time is the only problem :D
[20:01] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes.. don't try and do everything please :-)
[20:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure! lol
[20:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm not multitasking like balloons :D
[20:03] <balloons> sometimes i forget my name
[20:04] <Letozaf_> :D
[20:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, is it ok for this download to be missing ? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39378/downloads (Ubuntu Core armhf)
[20:19] <balloons> Letozaf_, weird
[20:19] <balloons> what happened to it
[20:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, don't know.. was looking around to decide what to test
[20:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, looks like it is in here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20130311/
[20:20] <balloons> let me look at fixing
[20:20] <balloons> t never had a dl link
[20:20] <balloons> so odd
[20:24] <balloons> Letozaf_, look now
[20:24] <balloons> bah, link is broken..
[20:24] <balloons> but I made it show
[20:24]  * balloons tries again
[20:25] <balloons> day is wrong..
[20:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was about to write it
[20:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, but you're too quick
[20:26] <balloons> k, ;link works
[20:26] <balloons> the day being off is harder
[20:30] <balloons> stgraber, can we blame timechange.. why is the day off on the autofill for downloads?
[20:31] <stgraber> balloons: ? (what's autofill for downloads?)
[20:31] <balloons> stgraber, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/39378/downloads
[20:31] <balloons> i mean the VERSION complete
[20:31] <balloons> for dates
[20:31] <stgraber> balloons: ah, that's probably because today's failed to build
[20:32] <balloons> stgraber, ahh.. I was too quick to blame
[20:32] <stgraber> the tracker doesn't do any kind of timestamp magic, it just shows the version string it received from the build machine
[20:32] <stgraber> so if the build number wasn't incremented, it's usually because there wasn't a build
[20:33] <balloons> I do see a valid build here tho; http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20130311/
[20:33] <balloons> seemingly so
[20:33] <balloons> let's see if it built
[20:35] <balloons> as far as i can tell it did
[20:35] <balloons> thoughts stgraber ?
[20:35] <balloons> the other ones are correct.. must be somethng with the ubuntu core ones
[20:36] <balloons> kk, anyways, thanksfor the help
[20:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, i hope your all set now
[20:37] <stgraber> balloons: odd... maybe it failed to publish to the tracker then... the logs don't show anything relevant though so it's hard to tell
[20:37] <stgraber> balloons: and other dailies appear to be fine, so it's not a generic thing
[20:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, yeah look like :D
[20:38] <balloons> yes exactly.. everything but core is fine
[20:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, but, not sure I'm doing it write but, after chrooting into core and launching apt-get update when I launch, for instance, apt-get install ubuntu-calendar-app I get this error:  E: unable to locate package ubuntu-calendar-app
[20:57] <Letozaf_> right not write :)
[20:57] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh you want to play?
[20:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, of course!
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, you give me a toy and don't want me to play ?
[21:01] <balloons> Letozaf_, k
[21:01] <balloons> let me help
[21:02] <balloons> you on quantal or raring?
[21:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, raring
[21:02] <balloons> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[21:02] <balloons> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install qtlocation5-dev qt5-default
[21:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, but in the core chroot or in normal raring filesystem ?
[21:03] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh
[21:03] <balloons> I get it now.. no, you can do it on your main system
[21:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:03] <balloons> don't need a specal iso or anythng
[21:04] <balloons> then, once those thngs are installed, you can grab packages from this ppa
[21:04] <balloons> but since it's quantal only, probably should just branch the code instead for the moment
[21:04] <balloons> try the calculator first
[21:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok thanks... I-m trying..
[21:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, I can do it on quantal, got that too
[21:06] <balloons> i'm on raring, so :-)
[21:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, ah!ok!
[21:07] <balloons> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-calculator-app
[21:07] <balloons> then you can run it from the directory you branched it in
[21:07] <balloons> it should pop-up ;-)
[21:08] <balloons> the touch interface is present too.. click and drag your mouse
[21:08]  * Letozaf_ is waiting for apt-get update to finish ...
[21:09] <balloons> kk
[21:09]  * Letozaf_ waiting for apt-get install...
[21:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, so I branched ubuntu-calculator-app
[21:14] <balloons> k
[21:14] <balloons> cd into it and give it a run
[21:14] <balloons> ./ubuntu-calculator-app
[21:14] <balloons> and boom.. should pop-up
[21:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes but I get an error:
[21:15] <balloons> k
[21:15] <balloons> what error?
[21:15] <Letozaf_> qmlscene:could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene: No such file or directory
[21:16] <balloons> interesting
[21:16] <Letozaf_> balloons, sorry had to copy it IRC is on another pc :)
[21:16] <balloons> you installed qtlocation5-dev qt5-default?
[21:16] <balloons> try installing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[21:17]  * Letozaf_ is waiting for sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ...
[21:17] <balloons> i'm trying to pin down things here
[21:17] <balloons> weird it didn't work for you
[21:18] <balloons> if installing that works, then we'll have to see what the deal is with what is needed
[21:18] <balloons> hey chilicuil
[21:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, could it be I just switched on my laptop and didn't apply the latest updates yet ?
[21:18] <Letozaf_> :(
[21:19] <balloons> Letozaf_, shouldn't matter
[21:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, ah ok!
[21:19] <balloons> did it work after installing ubuntu-sdk/
[21:19]  * Letozaf_ still waiting for apt-get install..
[21:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, yessss!!! it worked !
[21:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh! no! wait
[21:21] <balloons> Letozaf_, now the question is what were you missing
[21:21] <balloons> o?
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, a window opened but it-s title is : "Open QML file" ...
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, o?
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, should I open calculator.qml ??
[21:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, well it doesn't matter, don't want to "waist your time" I will try it when everything is set ...
[21:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was curious !
[21:25] <balloons> Letozaf_, you can run qmlscene ./ubuntu-calculator-app/calculator.qml &
[21:25] <balloons> or just cd in and rn the app directoy
[21:25] <balloons> *drectly
[21:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok let me try :)
[21:25] <balloons> cd ubuntu-calculator-app
[21:25] <balloons> ./ubuntu-calculator-app
[21:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's weired I am in ubuntu-calculator-app directory
[21:27] <Letozaf_> and if I run ./ubuntu-calculator-app from there
[21:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, I get that same window
[21:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, asking me for a QML file
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, if I run qmlscene ./ubuntu-calculator-app calculator.qml &    I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606076
[21:30] <balloons> ohh
[21:30] <balloons> your missing something
[21:30] <balloons> one sec
[21:32] <balloons> Letozaf_, try just installing the deb build.. it will pull the missing stuff: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+files/ubuntu-calculator-app_0.1%2Bbzr26quantal1_amd64.deb
[21:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok let me copy this stuff...
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, does not work  it says no such file or directory///
[21:36] <yofel> stgraber: hi. As you seem to have been working on both: we've been trying to use the LXC backend of the auto-upgrade-testing scripts for kubuntu but without much success.
[21:36] <yofel> It runs fine until it tries to set up the 3.8 kernel where it fails because grub-probe runs inside LXC which shouldn't happen.
[21:36] <yofel> From what I've tested running-in-container works fine (it even works in the upgrade a few packages earlier for apparmor), so I'm now lost on how to debug this.
[21:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, this/ qmlscene: could not open config file '/usr/share/qtchooser//default.conf': No such file or directory
[21:37] <stgraber> yofel: hmm, that's odd because grub-probe was definitely fixed to avoid that crash...
[21:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, no that deb build you gave me...
[21:37] <stgraber> yofel: did you try with a clean cache (wiping /var/cache/lxc/*)?
[21:38] <balloons> Letozaf_, right.. but nothing runs?
[21:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, wait got it
[21:39] <yofel> stgraber: wiped it last 2 days ago, but I can do it again if something has changed since then
[21:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, just a second..
[21:39] <stgraber> yofel: hmm, no, that bug was fixed months ago (or should have been...)
[21:39] <yofel> stgraber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606098/ line 5551 is where it fails
[21:40] <Letozaf_> balloons, the deb build is installing...
[21:40] <yofel> as I said, the apparmor restart is correctly prevented a few packages before that, so I totally don't get what's wrong
[21:40] <balloons> k
[21:40] <Letozaf_> balloons, hurray!!!!
[21:40] <Letozaf_> got the calculator
[21:41] <balloons> Letozaf_, imporantly
[21:41] <balloons> what did it install as part of the deb/
[21:41] <balloons> ?
[21:41] <balloons> what other packages?
[21:41] <Letozaf_> balloons,let me have a look
[21:42] <stgraber> yofel: odd... I'm running an upgrade test for kubuntu amd64 now here, let's see if I get the same thing then
[21:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, argh! do not know as I used software center to install the deb package :(
[21:42] <yofel> thanks
[21:42] <balloons> lol
[21:42] <balloons> look at history
[21:43] <balloons> in the software center
[21:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, the files / directories seem the same in the ubuntu-calculator-app folder
[21:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, can the history of software center help ?
[21:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, the last package installed was qtdeclarative5-localstorage-plugin(5.0.1-0ubuntu1.automatic)
[21:48] <balloons> yes
[21:48] <balloons> that's what you need
[21:48] <balloons> that was the missing package
[21:48] <balloons> ty
[21:48] <balloons> k.. anyways, your up and running
[21:48] <balloons> hehe
[21:48] <balloons> enjoy.. you should be able to play with anything in this ppa
[21:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes!! great! nice!
[21:48] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages
[21:49] <balloons> it's quantal only builds, but they run fine on raring. .it will be updated to have raring builds so you don't have to manually dl them soon
[21:49] <balloons> a fair warning.. many of them might not work
[21:49] <balloons> they are all being heavily developed right now
[21:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, must I tell you wich ones don't work ?
[21:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, or must I let go as they are working on them ?
[21:52] <balloons> yes.. no worries if they don't work
[21:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, fine
[21:52] <balloons> calendar and calc, atm, do..
[21:53] <balloons> anyways, our goal is to write some tests and then tests these core apps
[21:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, but is it the same using the mouse instead of touch ?
[21:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep.. for instance, click the right side of the app, and drag to the middle
[21:54] <balloons> it's the same as a side swip
[21:54] <balloons> and it should switch screens ;-)
[21:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, yeah true :)
[21:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, also calendar works for me :)
[21:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, nice!! thanks!!!
[21:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's late now... I will play more tomorrow :) thank your for letting me play :D
[22:06] <stgraber> yofel: Profile 'stgraber-profile/kubuntu-amd64' worked
[22:07] <stgraber> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606177/
[22:08] <yofel> hum, you do get the same error, but it's not fatal o.O
[22:10] <stgraber> yofel: hmm, it's actually weird that the postinst fails... that shouldn't happen. I'll have to talk with cjwatson because the recent grub2 upload was supposed to fix that...
[22:11] <yofel> ok thanks, please ping me once you know more
[23:28] <shadeslayer> stgraber: btw I have the auto-upgrade tester setup using EC2 over here : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ : and even though it failed, it says the upgrade went OK
[23:29] <shadeslayer> stgraber: http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/kubuntu-backports/apt-term.log < says cloud-init 0.7.0-0ubuntu2.3 failed to upgrade
[23:30] <shadeslayer> so there's clearly some issue with the code
[23:30] <stgraber> shadeslayer: I'm not sure whether anyone actually uses the EC2 backend, so that may explain why ;)
[23:30] <shadeslayer> ouch
[23:31] <shadeslayer> stgraber: what's the recommended backend? LXC?
[23:31] <shadeslayer> it's just that using EC2 seems so simple :)
[23:33] <stgraber> shadeslayer: QEMU and LXC are the two most widely used. QEMU is used by Canonical and LXC is used by me for the flavour upgrading testing
[23:33] <shadeslayer> okay, and do you have a page with the test results for the flavors?
[23:34] <shadeslayer> iirc there was some issue with QEMU that I can't recall at the moment
[23:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^ Do you remember what it was?
[23:34] <yofel> no, was trying to remember what it was too
[23:35] <shadeslayer> heh :p
[23:35] <shadeslayer> but yeah, we tried using QEMU for Kubuntu, didn't work out, I don't recall why
[23:37] <yofel> oh fun, the LXC upgrade test checks whether upgrade() works, which for LXC always returns True.
[23:37] <yofel> no wonder the script tells me the upgrade went fine o.O
[23:40] <shadeslayer> lol
[23:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: same for EC2
[23:43] <yofel> heh
[23:45] <shadeslayer> shouldn't it return return (ret == 0)
[23:45] <shadeslayer> that's 'two' many returns :P
[23:45] <yofel> I would assume so
[23:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: add it to our branch?
[23:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: go ahead (for both)
[23:59] <shadeslayer> ack