| pleia2 | argh, posterous is going away soon, but maybe it's for the best, it's becoming increasingly unreliable anyway | 00:37 |
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| pleia2 | didn't post the berkely ubuntu hour or our meeting tonight | 00:38 |
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| pleia2 | meeting in ~4 minutes :) | 01:56 |
| bkerensa | \o/ | 01:56 |
| * bkerensa has spent all day hacking =s | 01:57 | |
| pleia2 | I accidentally a 2.5 hour nap | 01:57 |
| pleia2 | :P | 01:57 |
| grantbow | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10 | 01:57 |
| darthrobot | Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10 - Ubuntu Wiki] | 01:57 |
| pleia2 | #startmeeting | 02:01 |
| darthrobot | Meeting started Mon Mar 11 02:01:21 2013 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 02:01 |
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| pleia2 | ok, who all is here for the meeting? :) | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10 | 02:01 |
| darthrobot | Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10 - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | agenda ^^ | 02:01 |
| * eps waves | 02:01 | |
| pleia2 | #topic SCaLE11x summary | 02:02 |
| grantbow | o/ | 02:02 |
| grantbow | scale was well done! | 02:02 |
| pleia2 | so first we had Ubucon on Friday, Richard Gaskin did a great job with that | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | then the booth! | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/8507370683/in/set-72157632856093439 | 02:04 |
| darthrobot | Title: [IMG_0169 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!] | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | it looked nice, I didn't help with anything but setup ;) | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | eps: any comments, as a volunteer? | 02:06 |
| eps | We needed more DVDs to hand out. | 02:06 |
| * pleia2 nods | 02:07 | |
| pleia2 | that should be organized earlier next year, sending a last minute note to the list to see if anyone could burn them was not optimal | 02:07 |
| * grantbow nods | 02:07 | |
| bkerensa | On the DVD front I want to mention LoCo's might have more resources soon.... mhall119's is proposing some more resources including DVD's/Swag and Funds for LoCo's | 02:08 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: that would be great :) | 02:08 |
| pleia2 | we did get 150 DVDs specifically for this conferences, but it really isn't enough for a 2k person conference | 02:09 |
| bkerensa | nope | 02:09 |
| grantbow | what's a good ratio? | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | we've typically given out 300-400 at scale | 02:09 |
| eps | We kind of got blindsided by the "best swag" contest -- apparently they only decided to do it about three days before. | 02:09 |
| grantbow | and it's getting bigger | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | so 1 disk per 5 attendees? | 02:09 |
| bkerensa | I believe they are thinking of follow Mozilla Reps ratio for swag.... So if you had 2k people they would try and reach at least 50% of attendees with resources | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | eps: as a not-company, it will always be hard for us to compete there | 02:10 |
| bkerensa | so 1000 CD's | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: yeah, that would be much better | 02:10 |
| grantbow | a USB copy station might help too | 02:11 |
| bkerensa | this is of course all subject to Jono's +1 -> Rick Spencer (??) -> Jane? | 02:11 |
| grantbow | a la... what's that software name again? | 02:11 |
| eps | Of the half dozen or so other direct competitors, only Fedora was in our league. | 02:11 |
| eps | We did OK. | 02:12 |
| eps | Remember 'Buntu Stand? :-) | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:13 |
| eps | I like the idea of create on demand, because that would let us provide Kubuntu, etc. if people want it. | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that would be nice | 02:14 |
| grantbow | buntu stand! | 02:14 |
| grantbow | I was looking but can't find the branch right now | 02:15 |
| grantbow | https://launchpad.net/buntustand | 02:15 |
| grantbow | there | 02:15 |
| darthrobot | Title: ['Buntu Stand in Launchpad] | 02:15 |
| grantbow | I was doing something similar with Toaster for the olpcsf.org with XO-1's | 02:15 |
| grantbow | similar in a broad sense | 02:16 |
| grantbow | give stuff to people with self-serve machines | 02:16 |
| grantbow | buntu stand was mostly for burning CDs in a distributed way as I recall | 02:16 |
| grantbow | for the XOs I was trying to do bootable usb sticks but ran into security issues during implementation | 02:17 |
| grantbow | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Toaster | 02:17 |
| darthrobot | [403] Title: [Error reading title] | 02:17 |
| * pleia2 gives darthrobot a cookie | 02:17 | |
| pleia2 | grantbow: is that where the project stans now? | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | stands | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | now that I'm better at python it may be something I'm intersted in | 02:18 |
| grantbow | it should be easier to give away free software using free software | 02:18 |
| grantbow | stalled | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | (I don't have an XO, but I'm sure there are plenty floating around for borrowing :)) | 02:18 |
| grantbow | join the email list and I'll write a summary there soon | 02:19 |
| grantbow | it's kind of off-topic | 02:19 |
| grantbow | will buntu stand work with DVDs? | 02:19 |
| pleia2 | presumably with the right hardware it would be fine | 02:20 |
| tedski | aren't usb sticks more usable these days? | 02:21 |
| tedski | oh, and, hi :) | 02:21 |
| pleia2 | tedski: unfortunately we don't have the budget to give everyone usb sticks | 02:21 |
| grantbow | I think so, especially with grub2. http://rww.name/articles/grub2iso/ | 02:21 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Booting ISOs from GRUB 2] | 02:21 |
| grantbow | hi tedski | 02:21 |
| tedski | i'd think a touch screen kiosk where they could insert their own usb stick | 02:21 |
| grantbow | sounds good, want to help? :-) | 02:22 |
| tedski | i'm brainstorming right now | 02:22 |
| pleia2 | our budget is $0, plus what volunteers can provide :) | 02:22 |
| tedski | :) | 02:22 |
| eps | CD/DVD media are inexpensive enough to give away | 02:22 |
| tedski | what's the need-by date? | 02:22 |
| tedski | i don't even know what event we're talking about | 02:22 |
| pleia2 | 2014 | 02:22 |
| grantbow | scale12x? | 02:22 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 02:22 |
| pleia2 | in los angeles | 02:23 |
| eps | Or release parties, or the Linux Picnic (if there is one). | 02:23 |
| pleia2 | I haven't heard anything from linux picnic folks, usually they need to book by now | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | I fear it's dead again | 02:24 |
| grantbow | we were talking about scale11x which just finished | 02:24 |
| eps | Or Software Freedom Day. | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it would be nice to have it for all these things, so i guess there isn't really a need-by date | 02:24 |
| grantbow | the idea for toaster was born during an SFD | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | alright, well I think we pretty much covered scale11x then | 02:25 |
| tedski | so, i guess the happy medium is to have the kiosk offer to dd to your flash drive or spit out a free cd | 02:25 |
| eps | The point being that the effort would be worth the time investment. | 02:25 |
| grantbow | SFD is Sept 21st. http://softwarefreedomday.org/ | 02:25 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Software Freedom Day - SFD Home] | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | tedski: yeah, that would be nice, it would probably be driven by a laptop though | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | so kind of poor mans kiosk (since we're poor :)) | 02:26 |
| grantbow | grub2 booting allows for multiple images on a single flash drive but is more complicated | 02:26 |
| grantbow | and doesn't always work on some hardware | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 02:26 |
| tedski | pleia2: i was just thinking it'd be a good re-use of my old netbook with a usb burner and a laser cut case | 02:26 |
| grantbow | or a tablet | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | tedski: yeah, totally! | 02:27 |
| eps | Reliability is important. | 02:27 |
| pleia2 | grantbow: with usb and dvd? | 02:27 |
| tedski | so, we're still in the budget | 02:27 |
| grantbow | usb unless you have a usb dvd to burn with | 02:27 |
| pleia2 | I thought about tablet because it's touchable, but not sure how to burn a dvd from them (or plug in a usb stick) | 02:27 |
| pleia2 | since they lack ports for such things | 02:27 |
| grantbow | true | 02:28 |
| grantbow | so laptop it is | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | can someone take an action item to continue this discussion on list? (and tedski - are you on the mailing list? :)) | 02:28 |
| eps | Would a PXE boot server be useful? | 02:28 |
| tedski | i am not on the mailing list... let me remedy that | 02:29 |
| grantbow | shiva plug maybe | 02:29 |
| tedski | but, i will definitely donate the aspire one | 02:29 |
| tedski | and possibly a touchscreen for it | 02:29 |
| grantbow | we are getting closer to the "in-a-box" proposals for install servers and/or LUG servers I've discussed with Rick in the past | 02:29 |
| grantbow | and that we've discussed for partimus.org a little | 02:30 |
| pleia2 | so a little bird told me that buntustand can support having a front end, so a tablet could presumably be used as that, the back end would be the laptop you plug stuff into | 02:30 |
| grantbow | nice | 02:30 |
| pleia2 | this is sounding pretty spiffy, I'm excited :) | 02:30 |
| tedski | time to make dinner | 02:31 |
| * tedski & | 02:31 | |
| * grantbow waves | 02:31 | |
| pleia2 | #action pleia2 to bring buntustand discussion to list | 02:31 |
| darthrobot | ACTION: pleia2 to bring buntustand discussion to list | 02:31 |
| pleia2 | so, thanks to everyone who helped at scale11x :) | 02:31 |
| grantbow | +1 | 02:32 |
| pleia2 | I'm glad I didn't have to do much ;) | 02:32 |
| pleia2 | I was quite sick that weekend | 02:32 |
| eps | Special thanks to nhaines | 02:32 |
| grantbow | +1 - great phone demos | 02:33 |
| pleia2 | oh yes, he sacrificed his phone for the weekend! | 02:33 |
| pleia2 | people really loved being able to see it, with all the buzz that had been around over it | 02:33 |
| pleia2 | #topic other business | 02:35 |
| pleia2 | so, we use posterous for cross-posting to twitter, identica and facebook page | 02:35 |
| pleia2 | 1. it's been unreliable lately - I sent 2 posts recently and totally didn't pay attention to the fact that they didn't actually post :( | 02:36 |
| pleia2 | 2. it's going away april 30th anyway | 02:36 |
| pleia2 | any social media gurus have recommendations? | 02:36 |
| pleia2 | the facebook page thing may be impossible, posterous is the only service If ound that could cross-post to pages (personal accounts are easy) | 02:36 |
| bkerensa | WordPress can cross post | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | to facebook pages too? | 02:37 |
| bkerensa | yes | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | sweet | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | it may be good to have an us-controlled version of this anyway | 02:37 |
| bkerensa | It should be in the Jetpack plugin "Socialize" or something they call it | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | ok cool, I'll give you a nudge later this week if I have questions | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | thank you! | 02:38 |
| bkerensa | k | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | #action pleia2 to look into WP plugin for social media crossposting | 02:38 |
| darthrobot | ACTION: pleia2 to look into WP plugin for social media crossposting | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | SF Ubuntu Hour coming up on Wednesday | 02:39 |
| pleia2 | I'm not running the debian dinner, but it's just a BART ride away at 7:30: http://bad.debian.net/list/2013-March/003537.html | 02:40 |
| darthrobot | Title: [ANNOUNCEMENT: B.A.D. Meeting For March 2013] | 02:40 |
| pleia2 | so I'll probably go to that, anyone is welcome to tag along (or just go to that ;)) | 02:40 |
| grantbow | because every Ubuntu user is a Debian user ;-) | 02:41 |
| pleia2 | hooray for Debian! | 02:41 |
| pleia2 | anyone else have anything before we wrap up? | 02:41 |
| grantbow | who attended the UDS last week? | 02:42 |
| grantbow | first online one | 02:42 |
| * eps did | 02:42 | |
| eps | Much as I wasn't thrilled by the 6 a.m. start time, it was way better than Budapest. | 02:44 |
| grantbow | anyone else have anything before we wrap up? | 02:45 |
| pleia2 | hopefully the UDS in May-ish will be better attended since we can plan accordingly | 02:45 |
| pleia2 | (of course I'll be out of the country) | 02:45 |
| pleia2 | ok, thanks everyone for coming :) | 02:46 |
| grantbow | pleia2: thanks for chairing | 02:46 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 02:47 |
| darthrobot | Meeting ended Mon Mar 11 02:47:08 2013 UTC. | 02:47 |
| darthrobot | Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2013/ubuntu-us-ca.2013-03-11-02.01.moin.txt | 02:47 |
| grantbow | anyone know how to right-click on a nexus 7 flashed with 13.04? | 02:48 |
| pleia2 | is it the same as with 12.10? | 02:48 |
| grantbow | don't know | 02:49 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/FAQ#How_do_I_right_click.3F | 02:49 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Nexus7/FAQ - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:49 |
| pleia2 | (that's the FAQ that was started at UDS-R, treasure trove of awesome) | 02:49 |
| grantbow | thanks! | 02:50 |
| grantbow | not nearly as good a demo as the phone | 02:52 |
| grantbow | I wonder when the nexus7 images will get the fancy phone stuff | 02:53 |
| bkerensa | well they are two different platforms | 02:55 |
| bkerensa | and there is a nexus7 touch image already | 02:55 |
| bkerensa | :D | 02:55 |
| grantbow | cool, I'll have to find it | 02:56 |
| grantbow | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 02:57 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Touch/Install - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:57 |
| bkerensa | grantbow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 02:58 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Touch/Install - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:58 |
| grantbow | thanks :-) | 02:58 |
| grantbow | hi b_ | 02:59 |
| grantbow | bye | 02:59 |
| bkerensa | But the Ubuntu Touch images you see now are not what will be released | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | basically they are going full circle in this whole process | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | :) | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | Nexus 7 images were to optimize the Ubuntu base and Ubuntu Touch images today are just to demo for marketing mostly | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | since the current touch images are just Cyanogenmod with a UI shell | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | they have to build the entire backend and ubuntu base and a bootloader | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | I think the big thing is getting their patches from the first Ubuntu N7 tests in upstream | 03:01 |
| bkerensa | it shouldnt be too long though for a better image to come out though... I know the foundations team is spending most of their time working on the bootloader and base stuff | 03:02 |
| bkerensa | =o | 03:03 |
| pleia2 | they got one look at us... :P | 03:03 |
| grantbow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS says it that other OS will work on Otoro, PandaBoard, Emulator (ARM and x86), Desktop, Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Samsung Galaxy S II, and Galaxy Nexus | 03:05 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Firefox OS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] | 03:05 |
| grantbow | s/it // | 03:06 |
| bkerensa | grantbow: indeed... We already have OEM's making the first phones :) | 03:11 |
| grantbow | fun, can't wait to try it somehow | 03:14 |
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| bkerensa | pleia2: you see http://www.muktware.com/5369/how-will-changes-ubuntu-affect-kubuntu-exclusive-interview-jonathan-riddell | 23:34 |
| darthrobot | Title: [How will changes at Ubuntu affect Kubuntu: exclusive interview with Jonathan Riddell | Muktware] | 23:34 |
| bkerensa | ? | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | can't say I'm thrilled with the fraud accusation, as Canonical does shoulder a financial burden of supporting the flavors (have to be coordinated during releases and qa process, spin up and host isos) | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | I'm quite thankful for that | 23:37 |
| pleia2 | so while they might not be handing a direct check to folks who work on flavors, I assume they instead put those donations toward that infrastructure and work | 23:38 |
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