| Omnifrog | this music is pretty interesting http://www.youtube.com/user/MajorVsMinor/videos?sort=dd&view=0&tag_id= | 01:33 |
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| Omnifrog | pop songs shifted to minor scale | 01:33 |
| === elijah-mbp is now known as eli-away | ||
| chris4585 | Omnifrog, that is neat | 02:01 |
| chris4585 | have you heard one of those videos that stays in same key but transitions between multiple songs | 02:02 |
| Omnifrog | I have! | 02:05 |
| Omnifrog | I play mashups from time to time | 02:05 |
| chris4585 | those are neat | 02:06 |
| Omnifrog | I have trouble keeping up with them | 02:07 |
| Omnifrog | there are so many | 02:07 |
| Omnifrog | gah | 03:02 |
| Omnifrog | school bus comes early | 03:02 |
| Omnifrog | night nerds! | 03:02 |
| === Omnifrog is now known as Omnifrog|pond | ||
| === Omnifrog|pond is now known as Omnifrog | ||
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: got to drive thru your neck of the woods, man has it kept changing, growing | 12:42 |
| wrst | morning cyberanger | 12:55 |
| Omnifrog | It has indeed cyberanger | 17:05 |
| Omnifrog | ever since the VW plant it's been booming | 17:06 |
| Omnifrog | hiya wrst | 17:06 |
| wrst | hello Omnifrog, how are you doing? | 17:06 |
| Omnifrog | A bit sore today | 17:06 |
| Omnifrog | yesterday was the first day working in the woods for a while | 17:07 |
| wrst | ahh yes I experienced something similar painting a ceiling, I don't normally use those muscles in that way | 17:08 |
| Omnifrog | ceilings are the worst | 17:08 |
| wrst | yes, we have built a garage and just used OSB for the interior which was fine with me but the wife thought it was ugly so i painted | 17:10 |
| wrst | well 9 gallon of paint later I need at least 3 more | 17:10 |
| wrst | took nearly 5 for the ceiling | 17:10 |
| wrst | that stuff sucks paint up like a straw | 17:10 |
| Omnifrog | no primer? | 17:10 |
| wrst | that was including primer, but i ran out of it and just used painit on the walls and could really tell no difference | 17:11 |
| wrst | its going to take 3-4 coats regardless | 17:11 |
| Omnifrog | heh | 17:11 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, osb is hard to cover | 17:11 |
| wrst | read that using oil based Killz was the best thing for that and it did work well but not well enough for the extra cost | 17:11 |
| wrst | but i am getting some glue bleed through without the killz but that's not bothering me that much i was just going to leave it brown :) | 17:12 |
| Omnifrog | at least it's brighter than brown | 17:14 |
| wrst | ha ha yes but its a garage that is going to store junk | 17:30 |
| wrst | so i don't care but... | 17:31 |
| * wrst is liking the transmission web interface | 17:31 | |
| Omnifrog | https://www.google.com/ | 20:13 |
| bill_gill | hi all | 20:32 |
| bill_gill | wrst are you available? | 20:32 |
| bill_gill | omnifrog... run? | 20:32 |
| Omnifrog | hi bill | 20:33 |
| wrst | ha ha bill_gill i'm here for a few minutes | 20:35 |
| wrst | and hello Omnifrog | 20:35 |
| bill_gill | hi omnifrog & wrst | 20:51 |
| bill_gill | question about installing ubuntu | 20:51 |
| wrst | sure bill_gill what is your question? | 20:51 |
| bill_gill | i setup 300gb drive partions as 30gb boot / 250gb - home and the rest as a swap | 20:51 |
| bill_gill | i'm having too many issues with samba and pulseaudio and can't get them fixed so I want to drop back to 12.04 x86 | 20:52 |
| bill_gill | if I do the install in the 30gb partition what do I need to select to make sure the 250gb section is set to mount in the /home of the new install? | 20:53 |
| bill_gill | trashing the 12.10 install is understood | 20:53 |
| bill_gill | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-12-10-301012.shtml | 20:55 |
| Omnifrog | if the installer doesn't have that option for you to set you can do it after the install | 20:55 |
| bill_gill | perfect | 20:55 |
| bill_gill | ty | 20:55 |
| Omnifrog | just go into whatever user management tool you prefer and enter the path | 20:57 |
| wrst | yep what Omnifrog said :) | 21:01 |
| wrst | bill_gill: i think you can also go into the advanced options or whatever they are called and specify all that too | 21:05 |
| bill_gill | ok | 21:05 |
| Omnifrog | then log out and in again for PATH to take effect | 21:05 |
| bill_gill | i know how to do it after the fact. i was concerned that if I didn't do it at install it would not be the same. | 21:06 |
| Omnifrog | the new path should be something like /dev/sd[x]/[directory] | 21:08 |
| Omnifrog | assuming the drive is /dev/sda the partition for home would be something like /dev/sda2/whatever | 21:09 |
| Omnifrog | replace the 2 with whatever partition the number actually is | 21:10 |
| bill_gill | the partitions aren't changing so I can use /dev/sda2/home | 21:28 |
| bill_gill | i think I still don't have this correct. | 21:31 |
| bill_gill | the partions is sda1 30gb boot primary,sba2 270gb extended with two parts ... sba6 is where my home is currently | 21:32 |
| Omnifrog | of course, the partition will still have to be mounted first | 21:33 |
| bill_gill | when it builds the install the home will be on sda 1 correct? | 21:33 |
| bill_gill | sorry sda1 | 21:33 |
| bill_gill | will the new install change the device names? | 21:34 |
| Omnifrog | initially yes (unless the installer gives you the option to hake an alternate /home | 21:34 |
| Omnifrog | make* | 21:34 |
| bill_gill | i don't want to loose the files in my /home | 21:35 |
| Omnifrog | just make sure you dont let it format the new /home | 21:35 |
| Omnifrog | or leave that step for after the install is complete | 21:35 |
| bill_gill | i feel better doing it that way | 21:35 |
| Omnifrog | just to be sure | 21:35 |
| Omnifrog | yeah | 21:35 |
| bill_gill | so following that process I would end up with /home on sda1 | 21:36 |
| Omnifrog | if your not sure leave it for later | 21:36 |
| Omnifrog | right | 21:36 |
| bill_gill | then i would change it to sda6 (which is how it looks now) or will the install change the device name? | 21:36 |
| Omnifrog | no, the device names are hardware dependent | 21:37 |
| Omnifrog | as long as the drive is still plugged in to the same port on the motherboard it will stay the same | 21:37 |
| Omnifrog | always double check things like that though | 21:39 |
| bill_gill | ok. other subject... are you running a 64bit version? | 21:49 |
| bill_gill | i'm wondering if some of my issues are because some libraries may have been installed as 32bit | 21:50 |
| Omnifrog | I am | 21:51 |
| Omnifrog | partition management is always a nightmare for me | 21:52 |
| Omnifrog | I do a crumby job at housekeeping | 21:53 |
| bill_gill | i understad | 22:04 |
| bill_gill | i'm excited being off of windughs but it's a challenge to learn a new os on the fly | 22:05 |
| bill_gill | i'm getting it down though | 22:05 |
| bill_gill | do you have many problems with 64bit? | 22:05 |
| bill_gill | i'm thinking i would go run 12.04 32bit to be a bit more stable. | 22:06 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, migrating to a new OS has it's challenges | 22:06 |
| bill_gill | so my pc is i3 w/ 12gb ram. | 22:07 |
| bill_gill | am i overkill for 32bit or will it make use of all resources | 22:08 |
| Omnifrog | the biggest issue I've ever had with 64bit has been Adobe Flash which is a monstrous piece of shit no matter what hardware you use | 22:08 |
| bill_gill | no hw drive issues | 22:08 |
| bill_gill | driver | 22:08 |
| Omnifrog | nope | 22:08 |
| Omnifrog | 64 bit in Linux has been stable for a very long time | 22:09 |
| bill_gill | hmmm, i wonder why i'm having such issues then. do you use samba and pulseaudio? | 22:09 |
| Omnifrog | ayeap | 22:09 |
| Omnifrog | and jack | 22:09 |
| bill_gill | bluetooth on pulseaudio | 22:09 |
| Omnifrog | my mobo has bluetooth but I don't have any devices that use it | 22:10 |
| Omnifrog | I think I used my wifes bluetooth mose on it once and it was fine | 22:10 |
| Omnifrog | mouse* | 22:10 |
| bill_gill | is jack for sensing audio port changes? | 22:10 |
| bill_gill | skype? | 22:11 |
| Omnifrog | jack is just another dreadful audio sub-system | 22:11 |
| Omnifrog | they all are | 22:11 |
| bill_gill | does it go along with alsa and pulse or instead? | 22:12 |
| Omnifrog | they cal all run at the same time | 22:12 |
| Omnifrog | jack takes exclusive control of the audio device when it's running | 22:13 |
| Omnifrog | it's a bloody nightmare sometimes | 22:14 |
| bill_gill | is it for recording audio | 22:20 |
| bill_gill | i don't think i need Jack | 22:20 |
| bill_gill | i use skype and a bluetooth headset. pulse doesnt' want to play nice with skype. it takes over all in/out. | 22:21 |
| Omnifrog | the only thing I use jack for on a regular basis is broadcasting | 22:21 |
| Omnifrog | skype doesn't require jack though | 22:21 |
| bill_gill | do you use skype? | 22:22 |
| Omnifrog | I can use skype on one of my older machines cause it's using an older version but MS has screwed up the newer version | 22:23 |
| Omnifrog | I don't use it too often though | 22:23 |
| Omnifrog | google talk/hangout has much better quality | 22:24 |
| bill_gill | on ubuntu? | 22:41 |
| Omnifrog | yep | 22:45 |
| bill_gill | is google talk like skype with having a phone number a land line can call? | 22:46 |
| Omnifrog | when I do live call in guest on the radio I always use G+ if possible | 22:46 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, Google talk can dial out to landlines | 22:47 |
| Omnifrog | or VOIP/video conferencing | 22:47 |
| bill_gill | ugh, i can't go switching from skype now... too invested | 22:47 |
| bill_gill | i'll take a look at it later when my contract is up with skype. | 22:47 |
| Omnifrog | we should have live shows in here to build the community | 22:47 |
| Omnifrog | I can broadcast it on my server | 22:48 |
| bill_gill | like how-to shows | 22:48 |
| Omnifrog | sure! or call in help shows | 22:48 |
| Omnifrog | I'm no genius at lixux so we would need experts | 22:49 |
| bill_gill | I'm a newbie for sure with ubuntu. if i had one complaint it would be there there are soooo many bloggers and writers and know-it-all out there. searching for an answer for a problem includes filtering out all the crap that is old, incorrect and bias | 22:50 |
| bill_gill | i found just more posts that removing pulse was a good idea than it was a bad idea.... turns out it's a bad idea. | 22:51 |
| Omnifrog | yeah, lots of things need pulse | 22:51 |
| Omnifrog | you cant really do without it | 22:52 |
| bill_gill | the issue i have is with skype when it loads it finds pulse and locks down so nothing else can be selected for audio. that sucks because I don't use the same devices for voice as i do for listening | 22:53 |
| bill_gill | also pulse is not showing the bluetooth device (handset or headset) that is connected. | 22:53 |
| bill_gill | the system sees it and it works but pulse doesnt' show it so it can't be selected and adjusted. | 22:54 |
| bill_gill | i'm sure there is a layer involved that just needs to be tweaked but alas i have not found the help video... :) | 22:54 |
| bill_gill | well, i'm about ready to blow up this install. Are you on 12.10? | 22:55 |
| Omnifrog | sorry for delays. I'm cooking dinner and chatting at the same time | 22:57 |
| bill_gill | haha... me too | 23:03 |
| bill_gill | making chicken fajita | 23:03 |
| bill_gill | some mung bean salad and a beer | 23:03 |
| bill_gill | what version of ubuntu are the most happy with? | 23:04 |
| Omnifrog | these days I'm none too pleased with any of them | 23:04 |
| Omnifrog | I'm looking for a replacement | 23:05 |
| Omnifrog | although, to be fair KDE is to blame for most of the issues | 23:07 |
| bill_gill | a replacement for linux? | 23:42 |
| bill_gill | or just the user interface | 23:42 |
| Omnifrog | replacement for distro and or DE | 23:43 |
| bill_gill | i don't understand | 23:44 |
| wrst | Omnifrog: i'm taking that you aren't a fan of unity ? | 23:44 |
| bill_gill | distro being distrbution | 23:45 |
| Omnifrog | No! wrst | 23:45 |
| bill_gill | i'm okay with unity | 23:45 |
| Omnifrog | not at all | 23:45 |
| Omnifrog | right, bill | 23:45 |
| Omnifrog | DE = desktop environment | 23:45 |
| wrst | Omnifrog: i'm wasn't but I must say it isn't bad anymore, it and kde are the most sane desktops i think currently out there if you want a full featured one | 23:45 |
| * wrst is also a huge arch fan/user | 23:46 | |
| wrst | Omnifrog: new opensuse release is also coming out tomorrow | 23:50 |
| Omnifrog | I've been considering trying that out | 23:51 |
| wrst | if you like kde i think its as solid as it gets without using arch | 23:52 |
| wrst | and they have some nice gui management tools if you like that | 23:52 |
| Omnifrog | I'm a bit of a minimalist but I like features too | 23:56 |
| Omnifrog | I don't doubt SUSE is solid. last time I used it I was happy enough with it | 23:57 |
| wrst | ahh well if you like minimalist go old school, go with arch, its so minimalist it doesn't even have an installer ;) | 23:58 |
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