[00:00] <Randy_Popabawa> I've checked the forums and I found a thread dealing with my exact laptop. But no one on there had any answers
[00:00] <designbybeck_> what would automounting be ntzrmtthihu777?
[00:00] <Randy_Popabawa> Beyond "Use Linux Mint 13 with MATE and youll kind of half get screen brightnss controls"
[00:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: basically automatically turns that hdd into a folder on your system you can acces, like ~/HDD
[00:01] <designbybeck_> ah yes, that would be nice ntzrmtthihu777
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: its pretty simple. you just need to 1. format it and 2. change your /etc/fstab file a bit.
[00:01] <designbybeck_> should I be worried that my main SSD drive shows up as /dev/sdb and the new drive shows up as /dev/sda ntzrmtthihu777 This is what stopped me from trying anything before
[00:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: unusuall, but nothing big I think. anyone else got an opinion?
[00:02] <Gaunt> Guest98491: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072862&page=2
[00:03] <designbybeck_> ntzrmtthihu777:  I got a lil' ahead of myself when I built this system a 2 months ago and Didn't format the drive first. So I think it had another partition from Samsung out of the factory
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: does happen.
[00:03] <brightspark> ntzrmtthihu777, designbybeck_: The sda/sdb convention is not an issue as long as your GRUB install can correctly find the boot partition.
[00:04] <designbybeck_> brightspark: ntzrmtthihu777 My disk Utility http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=46960
[00:04] <brightspark> designbybeck_: That often affects whether your OS resides on /sda1 or /sda2
[00:05] <designbybeck_> ok brightspark So I can just format that 320GB and use it for addtional storage
[00:05] <brightspark> designbybeck_: Correct.
[00:05] <brightspark> designbybeck_: But you are advised to back up your system before playing with the formatting tools.
[00:05] <designbybeck_> warning noted brightspark
[00:05] <designbybeck_> thank you
[00:06] <brightspark> designbybeck_: glad to help :)
[00:06] <OerHeks> Randy_Popabawa, did you take a look @ samsung ppa > https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa keybindings udev backlight & stuff like tools ?
[00:06] <Randy_Popabawa> no i did not. i'm very much a newb to linux and wasnt aware of that ppa
[00:07] <Randy_Popabawa> how would i add that ppa and what package would I apt-get install?
[00:07] <designbybeck_> brightspark: suggestions on Erase type? Quick or Slow?
[00:07] <designbybeck_> Does it matter on Linux?
[00:07] <designbybeck_> err EXT4
[00:08] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm trying to figure out a way to do what you want
[00:08] <brightspark> designbybeck_: I don't know where you found that option- to format a disk I use gparted, which I don't recall ever giving me that choice.
[00:08] <brightspark> designbybeck_: What program are you using?
[00:08] <yakov> hello, does anyone knows a way to refirmware a usb memory?
[00:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: nevermind, I got it I think.
[00:09] <designbybeck_> Disk Utility Ubuntu 12.10 brightspark
[00:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: zip ../foo.zip * && rm *, right?
[00:10] <OerHeks> Randy_Popabawa, open softwarecentre, edit sources and add " ppa:voria/ppa  "or follow this guide for terminal >> http://mcgivrer.fr/samsung-have-its-own-ppa
[00:10] <brightspark> designbybeck_: I don't have experience with that.  My advice is to get gparted from the repositories and use that instead.
[00:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> designbybeck_: I would reccomend the same, gparted is more than sufficient for any partitioning needs.
[00:13] <elisa87> !find libboost
[00:14] <Gaunt> A circular saw is a good partitioning tool...
[00:14] <designbybeck_> brightspark: can you point me in a direction for the automounting?
[00:15] <designbybeck_> I'll start with this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[00:15] <brightspark> designbybeck_: That's good, here's another resource: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[00:16] <designbybeck_> great! Thanks brightspark
[00:16] <jalal> hi all
[00:17] <brightspark> designbybeck_: glad to help :)
[00:21] <MacGuges> is it normal for TTY to be unset in ssh pttys?
[00:23] <fetzy> Hi, I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 and my computer is running really slow. it was running pretty slow before, when i had windows XP installed, and installing ubuntu improved the performance a little but not a tone. is there anything i can do to make it run better?
[00:24] <sonOfRa> considering you had XP installed, maybe you just have a computer that is slow?
[00:24] <sonOfRa> what's your hardware?
[00:26] <fetzy> My computer is a Dell Latitude D610. I'm not sure about the ram, but i am pretty sure my hard drive is 40GB
[00:26] <Gaunt> click on the start button and type dxdiag
[00:26] <Gaunt> that will give you info on system
[00:26] <Gaunt> oops
[00:26] <Gaunt> lol nvm
[00:27] <sonOfRa> that is a rather slow pc indeed
[00:27] <sonOfRa> single core pentium with 1.86ghz
[00:27] <fetzy> so there isn't much i can do about it? other than upgrading the hardware...?
[00:29] <tm_> You could try a "lighter" version. Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc.
[00:29] <sonOfRa> you can try using a lighter desktop environment such as xfce or lxde
[00:29] <sonOfRa> yeah
[00:29] <terafl0ps> Fetzy, there are a number of lightweight Ubuntu-based distributions that would help.
[00:29] <fetzy> hmm ok. Where do i go to find those?
[00:30] <terafl0ps> http://lubuntu.net/ is one.
[00:30] <fetzy> ok cool thanks.
[00:30] <tm_> http://xubuntu.org is the other.
[00:31] <fetzy> alright ill check them out
[00:33] <bigbadben> I have kubuntu installed but
[00:34] <bigbadben> I am using ubuntu desktop, when I apt-get updgrade it reinstalls kde etc how do I change it?
[00:35] <wayne__> Hello ubuntu users
[00:36] <wayne__> wheres the off topic room at?
[00:36] <sonOfRa> bigbadben, what do you mean, reinstall kde?
[00:37] <k1l_> !ot | wayne__
[00:37] <bigbadben> sonOfRa: Well I purged all the kde packages so when I upgrade it goes and reinstalls all of those
[00:38] <sonOfRa> you have kubuntu, which relies on the kde desktop environment, and you purged kde?
[00:39] <bigbadben> I did this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[00:41] <sonOfRa> oh, alright. sorry haven't ever switched between DEs in a living installation, can't help you there
[00:42] <bigbadben> It's ok
[00:42] <tm_> Most likely, the installation still thinks it's kubuntu, and tries to upgrade to a newer kubuntu.
[00:43] <bigbadben> Yeah, so how would I change that
[00:43] <tm_> No idea. Sorry.
[00:43] <bigbadben> It is ok.
[00:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> ATTENTION: A net split is in effect.
[00:45] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: the bot just told us, don't need another announcement
[00:48] <Onixs> can anyone link me on the ubunto help re makeing an ISO bootable\tried so many, but failed
[00:48] <Anon7> Has anyone succeeded in getting the sdcard slot to work for the macbook pro?
[00:49] <terafl0ps> Onixs: Have you tried unetbootin ?
[00:49] <Onixs> Hi terafl0ps
[00:50] <teh_noob> hello
[00:50] <Onixs> im modding a bootable ISO. but when i use mkisofs to build the modded one and to make it bootable, it just wont boot
[00:51] <ikonia> Onixs: what is the error you get ?
[00:51] <teh_noob> any tip on how to get rid of the useless splash screens on boot and shut down? already tried grub settings but no success
[00:51] <Onixs> i have used the "-b" flag which makes it bootable
[00:51] <ikonia> teh_noob: just remove the "splash" option from grub
[00:51] <jwaters10> trying to boot using toram=my.squashfs, get an error nuking initramfs contents: directory not empty
[00:52] <Onixs> ikonia " funny part is. no errors at all lol
[00:52] <ikonia> Onixs: so whats happening ?
[00:52] <teh_noob> is it plymouth's fault if so.. i can't find any info on how to disable the splash screens trhough it
[00:52] <ikonia> teh_noob: I just told you what to do
[00:52] <Onixs> ait just wont boot
[00:52] <ikonia> Onixs: it must do something.....
[00:52] <teh_noob> ikonia: and i said i already tweaked the grub
[00:52] <ikonia> Onixs: if it wouldn't boot you'd get an error saying something like "invalid boot media"
[00:52] <teh_noob> :s
[00:53] <terafl0ps> I think he means the CD boot is just skipped.
[00:53] <ikonia> Onixs: it's more likley it's booting past the boot block, but your CD is not valid so can't boot/find what it needs
[00:53] <teh_noob> with "text" "noquiet nosplash" and empty
[00:53] <ikonia> Onixs: if it was not bootable you'd get errors like "non-bootable media found" etc
[00:53] <Onixs> someone linbked me at askubuntu, but i didnt save the link regarding creating a bootable with mkisofs
[00:53] <teh_noob> didn't do the job
[00:54] <ikonia> Onixs: not interested in askubuntu - it's more likely (to me) that you've just messed up the ISO contents
[00:54] <ikonia> teh_noob: please show me your current boot line
[00:54] <Onixs> ikonia " i dont get such error like that… just a blinking cursor
[00:55] <Onixs> i restored it to usb, not a cd
[00:55] <ikonia> Onixs: ok....so that partially suggests what I'm telling you
[00:55] <teh_noob> ikonia: this ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[00:55] <ikonia> Onixs: ok, so again, most probably not the ISO being not bootable, most probably either the contents of the ISO or how you've copied it to the USB
[00:56] <nullby7e> new ubuntu, when?
[00:56] <ikonia> 13.04 is the next release date
[00:56] <Onixs> ikonia : any flags to try aside from "-b"
[00:57] <nullby7e> hmm interesting
[00:57] <ikonia> Onixs: sorry, I just said it's most likley not the image being bootable, it's more likley the contents or the method of transport to the usb
[00:57] <ikonia> Onixs: so why are you asking about more random flags
[00:57] <teh_noob> ikonia: sorry what boot line?
[00:57] <ikonia> teh_noob: the boot line you are using to boot your system
[00:58] <Onixs> i just using "dd" to restore to usb
[00:59] <coventry`> Where's a good IRC channel for a PAM question?  I cloned a drive and got the clone booting under vmware, but I can't log in to it.  When I chroot into the drive and try to run passwd, I keep getting "Authentication token manipulation error."  Happens with both my regular account and root.  Do I need to start some kind of PAM service beforehand?
[00:59] <teh_noob> ikonia: i don't understand where can i find it
[00:59] <teh_noob> =P
[00:59] <ikonia> teh_noob: what is your current boot line in grub
[00:59] <teh_noob> i'll gladly show u what u need
[00:59] <Onixs> ikonia " but the "-b xxxxx" is the flag to make it bootable isnt it ?
[00:59] <teh_noob> ikonia: all of them or the one i told you above?
[01:00] <ikonia> Onixs: I'm going to stop talking to you now, as I've told you 3 times I don't believe it's the bootable flag
[01:00] <ikonia> teh_noob: show me the one you are using to boot now
[01:00] <Onixs> ikonia : ok :) peace
[01:00] <root___> can someone direct me to install PC games on ubuntu?
[01:01] <ikonia> antz__: it's not something I'd recommend, Windows games are designed to run on Windows - getting the best experience will be running them in Windows
[01:01] <ikonia> antz__: there are abstraction (emmulation) tools like wine, but your experience will vary depending on a lot of things
[01:01] <antz__> ikonia: so I can play PC games via wine?
[01:02] <ikonia> antz__: please re-read what I said
[01:02] <ikonia> antz__: but actually read the words, rather than the last line
[01:02] <antz__> ikonia: my primary concern is whether I can play or not.... its a yes or no question
[01:02] <ikonia> antz__: no, it's not a yes or no question
[01:02] <escott> antz__, then your answer is maybe
[01:02] <ikonia> antz__: if you want a sensible answer, it's "no"
[01:02] <ikonia> if you want to make it that black and white
[01:02] <antz__> ikonia: then you are lying becuz you said i could......
[01:03] <ikonia> antz__: I'm not lying
[01:03] <antz__> ikonia: it is possible though
[01:03] <ikonia> antz__: you asked for a yes/no response,
[01:03] <antz__> ikonia: so answer should be yes
[01:03] <redhand> Does anybody knows if Ubuntu Raring will be Rolling Release?
[01:03] <antz__> ikonia: since there is A way to do it
[01:03] <ikonia> antz__: based on the fact that windows games are designed for windows, and you are not using windows, the answer is "no"
[01:03] <antz__> ikonia: shut up you are dumb
[01:03] <ikonia> antz__: please don't call people names, I offered you a more detailed response and you wanted yes/no
[01:03] <escott> redhand, no. it was never on the table to be rolling, the next LTS it was considered and i believe rejected
[01:04] <redhand> escott, hmm... thx.
[01:04] <teh_noob> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/9ffyhknq
[01:04] <antz__> ikonia: i won't tolerate you trolling me. just becuz it is design specifically for a certain OS doesnt mean you cant make it work. fail logic
[01:04] <ikonia> antz__: I'm not trolling you, I offered you a more detailed response and you demanded "yes/no" response,
[01:05] <antz__> ikonia: i wanted yes or no. i didnt ask for more. so that in itself is trolling
[01:05] <ikonia> antz__: from a yes/no response point of view, the answer is "no" from a more detailed response the answer is "maybe, it depends"
[01:05] <teh_noob> it's debian although i guess it works the same i have 2 distros installed
[01:05] <antz__> ikonia: be quiet.
[01:05] <ikonia> antz__: the fact that you want yes/no answer is not compatible with your question
[01:05] <ikonia> teh_noob: ok - so ask in #debian not #ubuntu
[01:05] <teh_noob> lol
[01:05] <ikonia> teh_noob: we support Ubuntu here, not Debian
[01:05] <teh_noob> i have 2 distros
[01:05] <antz__> ikonia: yes it is.... I can play PC games on ubuntu. so the answer is YES
[01:05] <Myrtti> antz__: it isn't a yes/no question. some games and applications might work, some apps might not work completely as they are designed, and some will not work at all. without details it's impossible to answer
[01:05] <teh_noob> main is ubuntu
[01:06] <Myrtti> antz__: move on.
[01:06] <teh_noob> thought you were trying to help ?
[01:06] <antz__> myrtti: shut up
[01:06] <ikonia> teh_noob: which are you having the problem with, ubuntu or debian
[01:06] <teh_noob> can you help or..
[01:07] <ikonia> teh_noob: if you answer my questions so I can get you the right info
[01:07] <ikonia> teh_noob: is it ubuntu or debian with the splash screen that is the problem
[01:07] <Myrtti> !appeals > antz__
[01:07] <redhand> Is there any offtoppic channel or this channel has this propose too?
[01:07] <ikonia> redhand: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <redhand> ikonia, thank you.
[01:07] <teh_noob> it's ok thanks
[01:08] <ikonia> teh_noob: please take the problem to #debian - not #ubuntu
[01:08] <ikonia> teh_noob: I've just seen you asking about the problem in #debian
[01:08] <teh_noob> yes
[01:08] <ikonia> thanks
[01:09] <teh_noob> usualy ppl here are friendly
[01:09] <ikonia> teh_noob: they are friendly in here
[01:09] <teh_noob> thank you again
[01:09] <ikonia> you're welcome
[01:09] <johnjohn101> !offtopic
[01:12] <emash> guys! i want my home folder be on the second hd, at the setup it won't let me choose ntfs. so what are my options if i want my home folder properly mounted in win7
[01:12] <emash> ?
[01:13] <escott> emash, your home cannot be on NTFS
[01:14] <escott> emash, what you can do is put subdirectories like say ~/Pictures onto the NTFS (easiest way is probably by symlinks) but $HOME itself cannot be on NTFS
[01:15] <emash> can it be on jfs xfs or whatever, which of them can be mounted in windows 7 enviroment?
[01:15] <escott> emash, it can be on any POSIX compliant filesystem. XFS should be ok. i don't know much about JFS
[01:16] <Gnea> emash: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[01:16] <escott> emash, in practice though I would go with the symlink approach. there isn't much benefit to having a folder like ~/.mozilla available to windows and a lot of downsides
[01:17] <escott> emash, what you want to share with windows are the data files (your photo albums and music collection), not your unix specific desktop configuration files
[01:17] <Gnea> escott: ext2read will read ext4 formatted partitions from win7
[01:18] <johnjohn101> ghea, do you have experience with ext2read?
[01:18] <soliloquy1> Hi! My internet connection is fine, but when I run update manager, I get told the following: Failed to download package files, followed by an incredibly long list of what appears to be the main ubuntu repos?
[01:18] <emash> ok i get it now. how do i get rid of floppy disk in ubuntu menus
[01:18] <emash> ?
[01:18] <escott> emash, personally i would not have a $HOME partition and then when you get into ubuntu symlink folders like ~/Music to /media/ntfs/whatever/Music/Folder
[01:18] <Gnea> johnjohn101: not recently. last time I tried it with XP, I was able to read ext3 just fine.
[01:18] <escott> emash, floppy disk?
[01:19] <johnjohn101> tx. I will have to check it out sometime.  usually , i just format stuff with ntfs and go from there.
[01:19] <emash> yeah i don't have one but it still shows up in devices list in ubuntu file explorer
[01:20] <escott> emash, that happens with some modern bioses... i guess they stopped doing some circuitry. you can blacklist the floppy module
[01:20] <bigbadben> So I installed kubuntu but switched DE's back to ubuntu and unity. When ever I sudo apt-get upgrade it upgrades all of the kde packages I am in /etc/apt/source and there is nothing in there about kubuntu anyone have any ideas?
[01:20] <iceroot> bigbadben: you have to remove the kde packages
[01:20] <bigbadben> yes
[01:21] <escott> emash, add a file in the style of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf that blacklists the floppy
[01:21] <emash> thank you!
[01:21] <iceroot> !puregnome | bigbadben (use the remove command and at the end use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  and not the install command the page is suggesting)
[01:22] <escott> emash, you might need to update-initramfs afterwards
[01:23] <bigbadben> iceroot: I already did that to get rid of the kde
[01:23] <soliloquy1> I'm running 12.04 and it won't let me update, tells me there's no internet connection when there clearly is - help please!
[01:23] <ikonia> soliloquy1: can you please pastebin the error
[01:23] <iceroot> bigbadben: also remove the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:24] <iceroot> bigbadben: after that a dist-upgrade will only update your installed packages and will not pull new kde stuff anymore
[01:24] <iceroot> soliloquy1: what is the output of "ifconfig" "ping -c 4 google.com" and "sudo apt-get update"
[01:24] <iceroot> !paste | soliloquy1
[01:24] <soliloquy1> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/Nh9XNwdB
[01:25] <antiroach> hey im using 12.10, im having issues with appending shell commands to history. is this a known issue?
[01:25] <iceroot> soliloquy1: you are using a proxy?
[01:25] <iceroot> soliloquy1: because all repos are trying to use the same ip
[01:25] <iceroot> !details | antiroach
[01:26] <soliloquy1> iceroot: Not that I know of, but my dad's a network guy, so maybe?
[01:26] <ikonia> soliloquy1: that file is not on that server
[01:26] <soliloquy1> we have like six networks in the house all that behave differently
[01:26] <ikonia> soliloquy1: it's not a network problem
[01:26] <antiroach> .bashrc contains shopt -s histappend, when i open a terminal i can type stuff in and then when i type history i see the previous history. when i open a new terminal window the history resets to nothing.
[01:26] <soliloquy1> well I'm maybe through a proxy? I'm really not sure
[01:26] <ikonia> soliloquy1: your sources are out of date
[01:27] <ikonia> soliloquy1: the files it is looking for are not on that host
[01:27] <iceroot> soliloquy1: sudo apt-get update
[01:28] <terafl0ps> Does anyone here successfully connect to MS Exchange 2007 with an e-mail client running in Ubuntu?  If so, what client do you run and why?  I'd very much like to ditch the bloated windows VM that I basically only use for Outlook anymore.
[01:28] <ikonia> terafl0ps: evolution use to support it
[01:28] <ikonia> terafl0ps: worth checking
[01:29] <soliloquy1> ikonia: How do I fix that?
[01:29] <ikonia> soliloquy1: look at what iceroot said
[01:29] <soliloquy1> ikonia: Alright, it's going?
[01:30] <soliloquy1> ikonia: but whenI try to run software update again, it tells me that package dependencies cannot be resolved (pastbin coming)
[01:31] <ikonia> soliloquy1: ok, so that's a different problem, I suspect the PPA's you have installed have messed up your dependencies
[01:31] <terafl0ps> ikonia:  I'd like to use Evolution, but I installed their Exchange-MAPI plugin and pointed it to the servers at Rackspace, and it always failed to authenticate.  AFAIK, that's the only working Evolution Exchange plugin too.
[01:31] <soliloquy1> ikonia: Alright, what do I do about that then?
[01:31] <ikonia> soliloquy1: depends on the conflict and why it's conflicting
[01:31] <soliloquy1> ... wierd, it's letting me update now.
[01:31] <ikonia> terafl0ps: did you set the exchange server up in a compatible mode (you need certain settings for evolution to work)
[01:31] <iceroot> terafl0ps: evolution setup is tricky, you have to use the domain\user and not user
[01:32] <soliloquy1> I'll see how it goes and get back to you on the dependency front
[01:33] <terafl0ps> ikonia:  I don't have direct access to the Exchange server because it's cloud hosted, but I did definitely confirm they had MAPI enabled.
[01:33] <ikonia> terafl0ps: I think it's more than that
[01:34] <terafl0ps> iceroot: I am going to try that right now...  I think I had to do something similar to get an iPhone connecting to ActiveSync once...
[01:37] <iceroot> terafl0ps: evolution is not able to handle activesync
[01:37] <iceroot> terafl0ps: the rest of the propritary ms stuff is working but not activesync
[01:38] <soliloquy1> iceroot: alright, I don't think that the dependencies are going to be  a big deal, I just need a new avant repo
[01:38] <soliloquy1> iceroot: So how do I get from here to 13.04?
[01:38] <iceroot> soliloquy1: dont use 13.04
[01:38] <raedov> hello guys
[01:38] <iceroot> soliloquy1: specially if you dont know what you are doing
[01:38] <soliloquy1> iceroot: uhoh, what happened? I've been out of the loop for a bit
[01:38] <iceroot> soliloquy1: 13.04 is not a stable release
[01:39] <iceroot> soliloquy1: and 13.04 goes to #ubuntu+1
[01:39] <raedov> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 - 64 bit with nouveau driver , the xorg.conf is empty , how can i generate this file to make edit on it ? any idea
[01:40] <iceroot> raedov: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:40] <iceroot> raedov: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:41] <raedov> iceroot : i know but there is nothing in it ? i just want to add "  Option "GLXVBlank" "on" in the Device section
[01:43] <raedov> i just want to enable Sync To VBlank support in the driver options because nouveau has it disabled by default . https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/880707
[01:44] <iceroot> raedov: by default there is no xorg.conf so you have to create a new one
[01:44] <raedov> how can i create new one plz
[01:44] <iceroot> raedov: with the command from me
[01:45] <raedov> iceroot : i tried the two commands it opened empty file
[01:46] <terafl0ps> iceroot:  That was a good idea, but it still comes back with "Authentication failed.  MapiLoginProvider: Network error"
[01:46] <bulletrulz> hi guys  i need help i installed kubuntu-desktop and it isint my thing but now xubuntu wonjt change themes and it looks bad D:
[01:47] <Hpubuntu> Hi there I'm running ubuntu 12.04 a portion of my HDD appears to be missing? I cannot locate it with gparted or even with a windows installer DVD
[01:47] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603708/ why am I receiving these errors?
[01:48] <escott> elisa87, not really an ubuntu question. also why would you be compiling llvm headers with gcc?
[01:48] <elisa87> I just ran a script escott
[01:49] <escott> Hpubuntu, is this a large disk and the part beyond 2.5TB is missing?
[01:50] <Hpubuntu> the disk is only 500gb,
[01:50] <Hpubuntu> it onyl registers about 465gb
[01:50] <escott> Hpubuntu, its probably 500GB 465GiB
[01:51] <escott> Hpubuntu, ie thats correct, its the marketing that is lying
[01:51] <expectro> puede de este lado ayudarme alguien para que me asesore en edubuntu
[01:51] <expectro> ya que en la sala de edu solo habemos 2 y el otro no contesta
[01:51] <escott> Hpubuntu, 465 is correct. nothing is missing
[01:51] <escott> !es | expectro
[01:52] <Hpubuntu> I am having other issues with dual bootinng windows and ubuntu with uefi,  I've installed windows and ubuntu a few times and in previous installations it registered at 500 gb, but now no longer does
[01:52] <expectro> thans you
[01:52] <escott> Hpubuntu, block devices for computer traditionally use a binary base and express in multiples of 2^10=1024 this is called KiB/MiB/GiB
[01:53] <raedov> guys how can i create xorg.conf  ?
[01:53] <escott> Hpubuntu, but for marketing purposes if you use base 10, and express in multiples of 1000 you can deceive consumers into believing they are getting more than they actually are. this is known as KB/MB/GB
[01:53] <escott> Hpubuntu, 500*1000^3/1024^3=465 so 500GB=465GiB
[01:54] <escott> Hpubuntu, depending on how the tool presents the number it may show a GB or GiB value 465 is correct
[01:54] <Hpubuntu> Yes, but what i'm saying is, this isn't the first time I've installed ubuntu, or windows 7 on this computer, and upon fresh isntallations it would register at 500 gb,   but now now longer does after an ubuntu installation
[01:55] <Hpubuntu> and My ubuntu usb installer previously registered it at 500gb, but now does not find it either,  also a windows disc registered it at 50, but now no longer does,
[01:55] <escott> Hpubuntu, i dont follow. is your problem that the reported size is 465 or that you cannot find the device
[01:57] <escott> raedov, you shouldn't need to, and in most cases it will make things worse. you can manually make one by running X -configure
[01:57] <raedov> thank you escott
[01:57] <Hpubuntu> sorry,  it's that before, I had a usable 500gb HDD , when used in windows , aswell as ubuntu it would register as500gb, and count down in space as used,
[01:57] <Hpubuntu> but now my ubuntu is at 460gb, with a 5gig swap,  thats it. it used to add up to 500 within gparted
[01:58] <escott> Hpubuntu, if you want to paste.ubuntu.com the output of sudo parted -l i can look at it. but im pretty sure you are just confused because of a GB/GiB switch. the numbers match exactly for that to be the case
[01:58] <Hpubuntu> ok
[02:00] <bsnl> Simple question, i'm just trying to find a way to wipe a re writtable disk
[02:00] <bsnl> how do I do this
[02:00] <escott> bsnl, what kind of disk?
[02:00] <bsnl> just a cd-r
[02:00] <Hpubuntu> i think you are right,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603732/
[02:00] <Hpubuntu> it just...wasn't  like that before....
[02:00] <escott> bsnl, just write a new image to it with your new data. not sure why you would "wipe it"
[02:01] <terafl0ps> bsnl, you mean blank a cd-rw ?
[02:01] <escott> Hpubuntu, GB/GiB is confusing, and some older tools print GB where it is actually GiB
[02:02] <terafl0ps> You can use Brasero to do that.
[02:02] <bsnl> yes, I need to write an ubuntu installation to a blank cd
[02:02] <Hpubuntu> Thank you , yes. I;m having difficulties with this new computer
[02:02] <bsnl> just need to*
[02:03] <escott> bsnl, the "blank" part won't matter. just write the new image on top of whatever is there
[02:03] <escott> bsnl, no need to blank it first
[02:03] <bsnl> Ok
[02:04] <escott> also if you have a spare USB thats a lot faster and easier to work with in most cases
[02:05] <terafl0ps> Very true.  It's also easier for optical CD-RWs to fail to read after they've been used a few times.
[02:05] <bsnl> Actually yes I do have a spare usb and I think my CD is failing
[02:05] <duckx0r> how can I add a primary partition in the selected unallocated space? It only lets me add a logical one http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29ws2tk&s=6
[02:06] <escott> duckx0r, you have to shrink the extended first. so select sda2 and shrink that. note that none of sda5-sda8 may be active at the time
[02:06] <escott> duckx0r, so you probably need to boot the livecd/liveusb and work from tehre
[02:06] <duckx0r> escott, it doesn't let me shrink it
[02:08] <duckx0r> escott, ok i'll boot to live usb and see if i can get it
[02:08] <bsnl> An uncaught exception was raised:
[02:08] <bsnl> [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/media/PENDRIVE/.disk/base_installable'  when trying to write the installation ubuntu desk top iso 32 bit to my usb
[02:08] <duckx0r> escott, thanks
[02:08] <Titanoum> how do I tell which of my monitors is being used in ubuntu, I only have VNC so I cannot look at the monitor?
[02:09] <elisa87> why am I receiving this error ? mkdir: cannot create directory Support/Release+Asserts': Permission denied (when installing llvm)??
[02:09] <terafl0ps> bsnl, What did you use to write the USB stick?
[02:09] <Titanoum> escott, there is no such thing as GiB when it comes to measuring an amount of an addreessable thing, its just GB
[02:09] <bsnl> Start up disk creator
[02:09] <elisa87> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/jalal/llvm/lib/Support/Release+Asserts': Permission denied  (It happens when I do a simple make)
[02:10] <ikonia> elisa87: come on - thunk about it
[02:10] <ikonia> elisa87: what does that error say "permissions denied"
[02:10] <elisa87> ikonia I used sudo ...why the permission is denied in my home directory?
[02:10] <ikonia> elisa87: if you can't debug that sort of error - the last thing you should be looking at is trying to compile software
[02:10] <soliloquy1> what version of GTK 3 is default on precise?
[02:10] <ikonia> elisa87: look at the permissions, sudo is not a magical thing, also you should not be using sudo to launch make
[02:10] <terafl0ps> bsnl, I would try writing it with unetbootin.
[02:11] <escott> !info llvm | elisa87
[02:11] <terafl0ps> unetbootin has built-in options for writing bootable Ubuntu USB sticks.
[02:11] <bsnl> Thats much higher tier than what I was using, thanks tera
[02:12] <escott> elisa87, (a) not sure why you would try to compile llvm yourself (b) when compiling always unpack/configure/compile without privs, only use sudo for the install step as that is the only step that needs root privs
[02:12] <bsnl> will try and see
[02:18] <soliloquy1> what version of GTK 3 is default on precise?
[02:19] <ikonia> !info gtk
[02:19] <ikonia> !info gtk+
[02:19] <ikonia> !find gtk
[02:21] <ikonia> !info libgtk-3.0
[02:21] <ikonia> !info libgtk-3-0
[02:22] <ikonia> soliloquy1: precise is 3.0
[02:23] <soliloquy1> ikonia: how do I found out which version I specifically am running?
[02:24] <ikonia> soliloquy1: apt-cache or dpkg
[02:24] <ikonia> sorry apt-policy or dpkg
[02:25] <escott> soliloquy1, is not unusual to have multiple versions. you probably have gtk2 and gtk3 installed
[02:25] <soliloquy1> escott: yes, I do - I'm aware of that
[02:26] <soliloquy1> ikonia: one last question - how do I get to quetzal from precise?
[02:26] <ikonia> !upgrade | soliloquy1
[02:26] <TaMpeReN> i have this error when i use KOrganizer
[02:26] <ikonia> soliloquy1: although with all the PPA's you have installed, I'd not recommend it
[02:26] <TaMpeReN> anyone can help me slove
[02:26] <TaMpeReN> solve*
[02:37] <Oris> does anyone know if apc is compatible with php 5.4? (lucid) thanks.
[02:38] <ikonia> apc ?
[02:38] <Oris> php-apc
[02:38] <ikonia> what is it ?
[02:38] <ikonia> is it a package ?
[02:38] <Oris> alternative php cache
[02:38] <Oris> yes
[02:38] <ikonia> !info php-apc
[02:39] <ikonia> Oris: why would an ubuntu package, not be compatible with another ubuntu package ?
[02:40] <Oris> i'm getting errors about it and i found mixed answers about its stability in 5.4
[02:40] <ikonia> Oris: what version of php ships with lucid
[02:40] <Oris> good question, i'm not sure, but i did recently update
[02:41] <ikonia> Oris: this is a waste of time
[02:41] <ikonia> Oris: why are you asking about 5.4 compatability if you don't know if thats the version lucid has
[02:41] <Oris> i have 5.4
[02:41] <ikonia> Oris: how do you know ?
[02:42] <bsnl> I need some serious hand holding here. Can somebody please show me how to install ubuntu on ubuntu
[02:42] <Oris> because i installed PHP Version 5.4.12-1~ppa1~lucid
[02:42] <ikonia> Oris: right - that's an unsupported PPA
[02:42] <ikonia> bsnl: if you have ubuntu - you don't need to install it, you already have it
[02:42] <ikonia> Oris: lucid comes with 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.18
[02:42] <ikonia> Oris: so the package of apc will be built against 5.3.2
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> bsnl: care to clarify install an OS in an OS?
[02:42] <bsnl> I'm just doing a fresh install and deleting this old bloated one
[02:42] <bsnl> Just deleting this ubuntu to fresh install
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> bsnl: thats called a fresh install
[02:43] <ikonia> Oris: so you need to speak to the PPA maintainer to find out what he's built and how
[02:43] <bsnl> Cool
[02:43] <Oris> Oh ok, thanks ikonia
[02:43] <bsnl> Can I please get some help with a fresh install then, and I appreciate the clarification
[02:43] <ikonia> bsnl: how did you do the initial install ?
[02:43] <SolarisBoy> bsnl: what do you need assistance with?
[02:44] <bsnl> I have a fresh usb here or we can do it with a blank CD, either way is fine with me
[02:44] <ikonia> !install | bsnl
[02:44] <bsnl> Ok, JS I have tried these walk throughs and i'm getting errors b/c my computers an incompatible dinosaur, I guess I can try these and report the errors back to you guys
[02:45] <ikonia> bsnl: if they are incompatible, how did you install it last time
[02:46] <bsnl> I guess i'm using the terms differently from you guys, i'll just keep to myself for now and work on this solo. If I run into errors i'll be back
[02:47] <bsnl> didn't mean incompatible as in a literal incapability to be compatible, was just throwing the term around because it sure acts like its incompatible sometimes
[02:48] <ikonia> bsnl: then please say exactly what you mean / exactly the problem rather than throwing words around like "install ubuntu in ubuntu" and "it's incompatible"
[02:49] <bsnl> I thought you guys would pick up on the usage, its fine
[02:49] <bsnl> I don't need to *modify* my behavior, thanks
[02:49] <ikonia> bsnl: we can't pickup on the usage if you mean totally different things to what the words mean
[02:49] <ikonia> bsnl: and if you want help - you'll need to modify the information you give
[02:52] <bsnl> also just letting you know i'm fine and not mad at you guys, the advice you gave before should be enough to help me
[02:52] <bsnl> thanks and sorry for the confusion, have a good night
[02:52] <bsnl> I mean that sincerely, sorry for any confusion or disruption.
[03:07] <ZeloZelos> are there any tools in ubuntu to build a website that works for most browsers but not too complicated with a good gui?
[03:07] <gnuskool> bsnl, how is the install going?
[03:08] <elisa87> I had no problem to ./configure and make the llvm after ssvn co but I cannot do the make install according to the following errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603843/
[03:09] <ikonia> elisa87: why are you building it - it's in the repos
[03:09] <ikonia> elisa87: and you had many problems, such as the permissions problem you asked the channel about
[03:09] <gnuskool> ZeloZelos: komposer, bluefish
[03:09] <ikonia> elisa87: and once again - you have permissions problems
[03:09] <ZeloZelos> ahh thanks gnuskool
[03:12] <jongbergs> Hi, I'm having problems with applying update of google-chrome stable on my Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit desktop. Everytime there's an update, the system has to be rebooted for the update to take effect. Is it possible to apply the google-chrome update immediately without restarting the or logging-out the session?
[03:12] <ikonia> jongbergs: depends what's being updated
[03:12] <ikonia> jongbergs: normally if it needs a reboot it will tell you
[03:12] <jongbergs> ikonia: the google-chrome stable thru ppa
[03:13] <jongbergs> ikonia: It doesn't tell me to reboot. Whether it's a command line udpate or thru synaptic.
[03:14] <31NACYSIQ> sigh, can't install it
[03:14] <jongbergs> ikonia: I have posted a question on official google-chrome forum groups but have yet to receive any reply.
[03:14] <ikonia> jongbergs: why are you rebooting then if it's not telling you to reboot
[03:14] <bsnl> I don't know why but I can't get this to work, it was so easy before to do this :/
[03:15] <adrian546864> hi there! trying the SDK preview. I couldnt figure out how to use C++ in the "Ubuntu -> Ubuntu UI - Tabs" type of projects. Anytime I want to add a c++ class i get the message "Failed to add one or more files to project". Isnt that implemented yet? Could somebody help me out. I want to play around with but Im unfortunatly not able to... :(
[03:15] <jongbergs> ikonia: It's just that I need some kind of workaround to immediately apply the newest version of google-chrome without reboot or logging-out
[03:15] <ikonia> jongbergs: why do you think it's not applying ?
[03:15] <jongbergs> ikonia: That's the problem I'm having with right now.
[03:16] <ikonia> jongbergs: why do you think it's not applying ?
[03:16] <jongbergs> ikonia: when you type on chrome's browser about://version
[03:16] <gnuskool> bsnl, state the exact issue, not the overall difficulty, we can only help with exact issues
[03:16] <ikonia> jongbergs: restart the browser
[03:16] <jongbergs> ikonia: it still indicates an old version
[03:16] <Flannel> adrian546864: This is almost certainly not the best channel for you.  Although I'm not sure what might be a better place.  You should ask in #ubuntu-devel, if thats not the correct channel, they will be able to direct you to the right one.
[03:16] <ikonia> jongbergs: restart the browser
[03:16] <jongbergs> ikonia: restarting the browser didn't work either.
[03:17] <ikonia> jongbergs: it will depend what packages are being downloaded for the update
[03:17] <ikonia> jongbergs: if it's just the browser, restartig the browser should be enough
[03:17] <ikonia> jongbergs: if it's dependencies that are loaded at boot, they will need to be reloaded, so rebooted
[03:17] <elisa87> after I did sudo make install this happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603861/
[03:18] <jongbergs> ikonia: It should but it didn't happen in my situation.
[03:18] <ikonia> elisa87: I'll ask one more time "why are you building this from source when the supported package is in the repos"
[03:18] <ikonia> elisa87: once again the error messages is CLEAR - permission denied
[03:18] <ikonia> jongbergs: it will depend on what's being updated
[03:18] <bsnl> gnuskool: Ok. The issue is that I want to do a fresh install of ubuntu. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 desktop right now. The only empty usb and cds I have are filled with an error filled ubuntu install file due to a mistake I made and i'm not sure how to use the usb or cd containing these files to install a fresh ubuntu. I also think I may have ruined my ubuntus ability to detect my only empty usb I have
[03:19] <bsnl> Through a terminal command I typed in via me being a parroting moron via google
[03:19] <elisa87> ikonia because I need the latest version which resides on svn ... and if it's clear to you can you tell me why permission is denied even with using sudo? what's the solution?
[03:19] <servvs> I am trying to install the latest intel video drivers via the intel driver manager but I am receiving an error stating, "package libdrm-radeon1:i386 cannot be removed"
[03:19] <jongbergs> ikonia: is there a command that manually reloads the libraries during boot process?
[03:19] <ikonia> jongbergs: no
[03:20] <ikonia> elisa87: sorry, don't believe you need the latest version
[03:20] <elisa87> for gpuocelpt I need the latest version
[03:20] <bsnl> Either way I think I might need to use a program I haven't been using before and I might need hand holding for the errors I report back to do this
[03:20] <servvs> when in reality I'm not sure why I have a radeon driver installed since I'm using an intel hd 3000
[03:20] <elisa87> ikonia For OS's that support versions of LLVM < 3.1 (for instance, Ubuntu 12.04 uses 2.9 by default),
[03:20] <elisa87> you'll need to pull the latest version from the LLVM SVN repository
[03:20] <gnuskool> bsnl, ok lets get this clear your current copy of ubuntu has errors, so you want a fresh one?
[03:21] <ikonia> elisa87: just reading the documentation on gpuocelpt
[03:21] <bsnl> Current ubuntu install is fine, but the ubuntu I have on my CD doesn't seem to be working when I load it from the bios
[03:21] <bsnl> So I am under an impression it could be not working
[03:22] <MrAureliusR> Hi there. I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my other computer, but the hardware couldn't support the Unity so I installed lubuntu-desktop. However, I found out that Lubuntu actually has a lot more differences than just the desktop -- can I install Lubuntu overtop of my current installation without losing my files etc?
[03:22] <gnuskool> bsnl, does it start from cd at all, or not at all?
[03:22] <bsnl> And by that I mean, I worry the CD version of the install might not be able to work at all
[03:23] <bsnl> Not at all it would seem, although I get a strange error
[03:23] <ikonia> elisa87: as there are packages for ubuntu 11.04 - I doubt you need the latest release.
[03:23] <gnuskool> bsnl, what is the error message?
[03:23] <ikonia> elisa87: http://code.google.com/p/gpuocelot/downloads/list
[03:23] <ikonia> elisa87: if you needed the latest release, there would not be packages for 11.04 which is quite old
[03:24] <bsnl> I'll reboot and check to see, sorry for not preparing more throughly with information. I'll be right back
[03:24] <gnuskool> bsnl, write down error messages
[03:24] <gnuskool> bsnl, also are the installed and cd version the same?
[03:25] <MrAureliusR> anyone? can I just use LiLi USB creator and install overtop?
[03:26] <servvs> I am trying to install the latest intel video drivers via the intel driver manager but I am receiving an error stating, "package libdrm-radeon1:i386 cannot be removed"
[03:28] <Nautilus> i can never remember the command to view the SMART status of a drive off a Live CD.  pbstl.... or something like that?
[03:29] <elisa87> !find llvm
[03:30] <MrAureliusR> sorry, lost my connection
[03:31] <MrAureliusR> did I miss a response?
[03:32] <MrAureliusR> Can I install Lubuntu overtop of Ubuntu 12.10 without losing data?
[03:32] <MrAureliusR> user data, that is
[03:33] <OerHeks> MrAureliusR, sure, you can install any DE as you like, and choose from login
[03:34] <gnuskool> MrAureliusR: save the home directory
[03:34] <MrAureliusR> no, not just the DE, the whole OS
[03:34] <MrAureliusR> am I correct in believing there's more difference than just the DE when installing lubuntu?
[03:34] <gnuskool> MrCata_: yeah, but if the user data is in the home dir, thats all you need to save
[03:35] <OerHeks> you can install side-by-side, or multiple destop environments on one os
[03:35] <MrAureliusR> right, but I want to overwrite ubuntu with lubuntu.
[03:35] <amitprakash> Hi, while doing apt-get -f install .. i am getting http://pastebin.com/1iTtWWj8 .. how do I fix this?
[03:35] <MrAureliusR> or is that even necessary? like I've already installed lubuntu-desktop packag eon ubuntu 12.10
[03:36] <ikonia> amitprakash: I'd run an apt-get update make sure your package cache is up to date
[03:36] <MrAureliusR> but I was led to believe lubuntu itself is less resource hungry than lubuntu-desktop installed on ubuntu
[03:36] <ikonia> amitprakash: looks like it wants an older version than you have
[03:37] <OerHeks> MrAureliusR, lubuntu-desktop on ubuntu = lubuntu, should be the same
[03:38] <MrAureliusR> hmmm... okay. then why have a completely different distro for just a DE change?
[03:38] <ikonia> MrAureliusR: so there are not unneeded packages/depenencies installed
[03:39] <MrAureliusR> okay. so there's no point in me installing lubuntu overtop, obviously...
[03:39] <pepee> MrAureliusR, you can have all(?) DEs at the same time
[03:39] <ikonia> MrAureliusR: why ?
[03:39] <amitprakash> ikonia, this is on aws
[03:39] <ikonia> MrAureliusR: do you want to use lxde ?
[03:39] <MrAureliusR> well, it's just that its an older computer and needs a resource-light setup
[03:39] <pepee> MrAureliusR, sudo apt-get install lxde
[03:39] <MrAureliusR> and its' already using lxde, isn't it?
[03:40] <gnuskool> mrenouf|away: no need for parallel install, you can install lubuntu with a livecd and it will detect your current install and ask you to save the user data - check here http://askubuntu.com/questions/18248/how-to-change-ubuntu-into-lubuntu
[03:40] <MrAureliusR> isn't lxde just lubuntu-desktop?
[03:40] <ikonia> MrAureliusR: ok - so just install lxde or "lubuntu-esktop"
[03:40] <pepee> * lxde-common
[03:40] <gnuskool> MrAureliusR:  no need for parallel install, you can install lubuntu with a livecd and it will detect your current install and ask you to save the user data - check here http://askubuntu.com/questions/18248/how-to-change-ubuntu-into-lubuntu
[03:40] <ikonia> MrAureliusR: if you've told it to use lubuntu-desktop, it's use lxde
[03:40] <MrAureliusR> yeah, which I've already done. I just thought that lubuntu had more to it than just a DE change
[03:40] <amitprakash> ikonia, apt-get update && apt-get -f install still doesn't fix it
[03:40] <pepee> MrAureliusR, lubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[03:40] <ivotkl> Guys. Could anyone point me out to a Moborobo similar program for Linux?
[03:40] <ikonia> amitprakash: does apt-get update complain about anything
[03:40] <ikonia> amitprakash: do you have any PPA's configured ?
[03:40] <MrAureliusR> okay, thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate the pointers. trying to learn as much as I can
[03:41] <MrAureliusR> I have another question about my wireless USB stick and it's drivers.
[03:41] <ivotkl> keep it up MrAureliusR
[03:41] <amitprakash> ikonia, no and no
[03:41] <gnuskool> MrAureliusR: if you want to trim the fat, then fresh install, saving the user data
[03:41] <amitprakash> ikonia, is there some way i can atleast ignore these issues and uninstall certain packages?
[03:41] <ikonia> amitprakash: not really,
[03:41] <MrAureliusR> It's a TP-Link TL-WN723N and I'm having a few problems with it in linux... mainly super slow throughput and occasional disconnecting
[03:42] <ikonia> amitprakash: it's stuck trying to build your initramfs - that's not good
[03:42] <MrAureliusR> I've been searching google for a while but I can't really find definite answers
[03:42] <pepee> MrAureliusR you'll need to select the default DE in the in the desktop manager
[03:42] <pepee> MrAureliusR, are you using a laptop?
[03:43] <MrAureliusR> it auto-loads rtl8192cu driver, but it doesn't seem to help
[03:43] <MrAureliusR> no a PC
[03:43] <amitprakash> ikonia, this could be because its on aws .. and is pulling incorrect initramfs
[03:43] <MrAureliusR> sorry, I meant that driver seems to be the problem
[03:43] <ikonia> amitprakash: it doesn't pull it, it builds it
[03:43] <gnuskool> MrAureliusR: no updated drivers?
[03:43] <pepee> MrAureliusR, try googling "slow rtl8192cu"
[03:44] <ikonia> amitprakash: can you please do apt-cache search initramfs-tools - what version does it report
[03:44] <MrAureliusR> yeah, I keep getting conflicting info, some say to install rtl8192su or similar
[03:45] <amitprakash> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/pAYfN15A
[03:45] <ikonia> amitprakash: sudo apt-get install initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin
[03:46] <elisa87> These are the errors I am receiving when using the llvm installed by sudo apt-get llvm3.1 ish http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603905/
[03:46] <elisa87> /usr/local/include/llvm/IR/LLVMContext.h:94:27: error: expected ';' at end of member declaration
[03:46] <gnuskool> MrAureliusR: seems to be a known bug http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949810&page=2
[03:48] <ikonia> elisa87: because I know the package
[03:48] <ikonia> oops
[03:49] <amitprakash> ikonia, same thing
[03:50] <ikonia> amitprakash: that's odd, as the package version seems to match
[03:53] <bnsl> Sorry that took so long, for some reason my terminal and home dash and software center decided to not work after rebooting to check the CD error
[03:53] <amitprakash> ikonia, initramfs-tools-bin is already the newest version. ... on the other hand  initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.1 is to be installed
[03:53] <bnsl> I ended up rebooting in ubuntu linux generic on a guest account to get back here
[03:53] <ikonia> amitprakash: again though, those package versions seem to match
[03:54] <bnsl> The error is isolinux: image checksum error, sorry... boot failed press a key to retry
[03:54] <bnsl> off the CD that should have the ubuntu install iso
[03:55] <bnsl> off the CD that should have the ubuntu install iso is not part of the error btw
[03:55] <amitprakash> ikonia, what can I do.. this is on aws servers :(
[03:55] <ikonia> amitprakash: may be worth contacting amazon on that one
[03:56] <elisa87> where can I find the path of something which was installed with sudo apt-get install?
[03:56] <bnsl> Anyway just to refresh, what i'm trying to do, and only trying to do, is fresh install ubuntu
[03:58] <bnsl> If anybody here is qualified to help with a fresh ubuntu install, i'd be really happy to get your help
[03:59] <raj> how do I select repositories for apt?
[03:59] <ikonia> raj: which ones do you want ?
[03:59] <raj> the latest
[03:59] <ikonia> raj: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[03:59] <bnsl> Ikonia
[03:59] <raj> one no longer supported
[03:59] <bnsl> Sorry about before
[03:59] <ikonia> raj: such as ?
[03:59] <raj> 11.04
[03:59] <ikonia> raj: which version
[04:00] <ikonia> raj: ok - so you need to follow the upgrade process
[04:00] <ikonia> !upgrade | raj
[04:00] <bnsl> !install
[04:01] <raj> ikonia, but what about just the repository, and choosing not to update gnome
[04:01] <ikonia> raj: you cannot do that
[04:01] <raj> actually, I just want the latest repository search when I do an apt-get install
[04:01] <bnsl> I think you're ignoring me ikonia. For what its worth if I hurt your feelings I apologize. I'm just really frusterated because i've just been trying to install this ubuntu for 4 hours now and i'm not an inch closer
[04:01] <raj> ikonia, why can't you do that?
[04:01] <ikonia> raj: to be honest, upgrading from 11.04 - I'd actually suggest doing a clean install
[04:01] <bnsl> I guess i'll keep trying on my own, good night
[04:01] <ikonia> raj: because there will be dependency conflicts
[04:01] <amitprakash> ikonia, fixed
[04:01] <raj> i'd of course do a clean install
[04:01] <ikonia> amitprakash: tell me !!!
[04:01] <raj> i'm not trying to update gnome
[04:01] <amitprakash> ikonia, tmp out of space
[04:01] <BHXSpecter> Finally just broke down and backed up my code files and did a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and desktop both
[04:01] <raj> i want to get pygst
[04:01] <ikonia> amitprakash: ahhhh great spot
[04:01] <raj> which is only in the 12.04 repo
[04:02] <ikonia> raj: download ubunu 12.04 / 12.10 - burn to cd/usb stick, install
[04:02] <ikonia> raj: backup any data you want
[04:02] <raj> I don't want gnome
[04:02] <bnsl> I wish that would work, my cd programs don't detect the cd or burn it properly
[04:02] <ikonia> raj: gnome has nothing to do with it
[04:02] <bnsl> if the cd is detected
[04:03] <ikonia> raj: what is your end goal - what do you want to do ?
[04:03] <elisa87> does anyone have any idea about this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5603936/ ?
[04:03] <ikonia> elisa87: told you at least 6 times the problem
[04:04] <elisa87> I didn't ask you!
[04:04] <ikonia> elisa87: yes, but I've told you at least 6 times the problem
[04:04] <HPUbuntu> Hi there, I'm trying to run an ubuntu 13.04 usb installer, but it will not detect my windows partition, it sees it as completely empty,  any idea?
[04:04] <ikonia> HPUbuntu: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 discussion please.
[04:05] <bnsl> ikonia, if you're free i'd like some help with my fresh install issue
[04:06] <raj> with ubuntu minimal, what does "basic ubuntu server" install?
[04:06] <HPUbuntu> I'm trying to run an ubuntu 12.04 usb installer aswell , it sees it as completely empty,
[04:07] <ikonia> raj: are you running on a desktop or a server ?
[04:07] <raj> what do you mean?
[04:07] <raj> I'm installing ubuntu minimal
[04:07] <ikonia> raj: I'll change the question
[04:08] <ikonia> raj: do you want to run a desktop at all - any desktop ?
[04:08] <raj> openbox
[04:08] <raj> so, yes I want xorg
[04:08] <raj> i'll get a file manager too
[04:08] <ikonia> raj: ok - I suggest you install lubuntu (as that is a light install) and then just install the openbox package from there
[04:08] <ikonia> raj: that will be the simplest approach
[04:09] <bnsl> HELLO- I AM TRYING TO DO A FRESH INSTALL OF UBUNTU. WHOEVER IS FREE TO HELP I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU
[04:10] <ikonia> !caps | bnsl
[04:10] <Titanoum> PRESS ENTER A BUNCH
[04:10] <bnsl> ikonia, can you help?
[04:11] <raj> ikonia, I thought you , choose to minimal to have a desktop?
[04:11] <Titanoum> bnsl go away unless you ahve a speciofic question
[04:11] <ikonia> raj: you technically can
[04:11] <ikonia> raj: however you'll find it easier to just to a small / light install such as lubuntu, then change the desktop
[04:11] <ikonia> raj: that way all the tools for things like setting up the boot loader are all done for you at install time
[04:11] <raj> lubuntu = light ubuntu?
[04:11] <ikonia> raj: if you like, sure
[04:12] <bnsl> My problem can't be formulated into a specific question. If I have to get specific all I can say specifically is that I need somebody to help hand hold me through the ubuntu fresh install process
[04:12] <bnsl> Because stuff isn't working atm
[04:12] <Titanoum> google install ubuntu
[04:12] <bnsl> I did, they didn't work
[04:12] <alkaliv2> Lubuntu uses LXDE+Ubuntu
[04:13] <Titanoum> what is it not doing, what do you expect it to do, and what have you tried or looked into to try to amek it do that, and is there anything that amkes you think it shoudl do that thing you want
[04:18] <ikonia> !pm > bnsl
[04:28] <Novus> hey everyone
[04:28] <ikonia> hello Novus
[04:29] <Novus> I got an install issue,. I've delt with this before, but I am not sure what it is
[04:29] <torrem> hello guys
[04:29] <ikonia> Novus: ok, go for it
[04:29] <ikonia> Novus: what's up ?
[04:29] <Novus> installing ubuntu, but I have to do a specail install to get the GUI up and runnig
[04:29] <ikonia> Novus: messed up screen during/before the install ?
[04:29] <Novus> the normal defualt install wont display the os system
[04:29] <Novus> no after
[04:30] <ikonia> Novus: nvidia graphics card ?
[04:30] <Novus> yep
[04:30] <ikonia> !nomodeset | Novus
[04:30] <Novus> bingo :)
[04:30] <ikonia> Novus: happy to help
[04:30] <Novus> :D
[04:34] <yourimym1> is there a room related for hacking and tutorials for ubuntu /
[04:34] <yourimym1> ?
[04:34] <ikonia> yourimym1: no
[04:34] <yourimym1> ikonia: :(
[04:35] <alkaliv2> yourimym1, look up Backtrack linux
[04:35] <ikonia> that will not teach or guide you
[04:36] <yourimym1> why ?
[04:42] <gobostone> so. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop (I've never personally used ubuntu, linux user for 10 years almost) and I can't get the keyboard input to work anywhere past grub, or any input for that matter
[04:42] <ikonia> gobostone: does it work at grub time ?
[04:42] <gobostone> ikonia: sure does
[04:43] <ikonia> gobostone: interesting, so when it boots, can you login ?
[04:43] <gobostone> no. I'm talking like no input. nothing. caps lock key doesn't respond and it very clearly isn't taking any input (no usb keyboard or mouse). same for recovery mode
[04:43] <gobostone> ikonia: ^
[04:43] <ikonia> gobostone: does the mouse work ?
[04:44] <gobostone> ikonia: suppose it's relevant to say 12.04 and no, no mouse
[04:44] <ikonia> gobostone: interesting, I suspect your machine is actually crashing
[04:44] <ikonia> gobostone: sounds like a hard lock
[04:44] <gobostone> ikonia: works fine in all other OS'
[04:44] <ikonia> gobostone: does your capslock key have a light on it
[04:44] <gobostone> ikonia: yeah, no response
[04:44] <ikonia> gobostone: that does sound like a hard lock
[04:45] <gobostone> ikonia: I don't know what you're referring to, never heard the term hard lock
[04:45] <afflicto2> Hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu and the fan on my ATI HD 5770 is going crazy. Am I missing some drivers? It's really noisy :\
[04:45] <ikonia> gobostone: basically the OS locks up the hardware
[04:46] <ikonia> gobostone: the fact that the caps lock light is not responding and the mouse isn't working suggest it's totally locked
[04:46] <gobostone> ikonia: except it works in grub?
[04:46] <ikonia> gobostone: yes, because the OS hasn't booted at that point
[04:46] <ikonia> gobostone: I suspect if you remove the splash screen, you'll see a kenrel panic
[04:46] <gobostone> ikonia: also works on live cd
[04:46] <ikonia> gobostone: yes, because that's a different install
[04:47] <gobostone> ikonia: no no, it's not panicking, the kernel is definitely alive and there. I'm staring at a login in prompt that's blinking
[04:47] <ikonia> gobostone: remove the splash screen from grub and lets see what's going on
[04:47] <ouya> is ubuntu 13.04 delayed?
[04:47] <ikonia> ouya: no
[04:47] <ouya> fine
[04:48]  * ouya runs to buy a usb3 ufd
[04:49] <Novus> SOB
[04:50] <torrem> hello guys, how to install ubuntu with no gui?
[04:50] <grendal-prime> server iso
[04:50] <Novus> how can I instal a nomodset with a usb, lol
[04:50] <ikonia> Novus: same as a normal install
[04:50] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/102489/ati-5770-hd-its-fan-runs-all-time-how-can-i-resolve-this
[04:50] <grendal-prime> torrem,  get the server install iso..
[04:50] <torrem> grendal-prime, can you send me the link?
[04:50] <grendal-prime> ?
[04:50] <ikonia> torrem: ubuntu.com
[04:51] <grendal-prime> sure..u  http://ubuntu.com
[04:51] <ikonia> torrem: do you plan to put a gui on the machine at all ?
[04:51] <torrem> thanks guys
[04:51] <chiggins> So I have two network interfaces, one public one private, the private one doesn't have interent access. But when I try to use apt-get, it defaults to the one without internet access. How can I set a default?
[04:51] <torrem> ikonia, no
[04:51] <ikonia> chiggins: change the default gateway
[04:51] <grendal-prime> chiggins, you gateway is on the wrong interface
[04:51] <sbarreros> Greetings
[04:52] <Novus> is there anythign better then Ubootin?
[04:52] <sbarreros> can someone here help me with a webcam issue?
[04:52] <Novus> i have had more and more problems with it latley
[04:52] <grendal-prime> chiggins, ..as root..edit the hmmm wait...how is this done now..you have to use network manager to set that stuff now right?
[04:53] <afflicto2> alkaliv2:thanks
[04:53] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, not a problem
[04:53] <sbarreros> My webcam was working fine on a Dell computer with ubuntu 12 but it just stopped working
[04:53] <grendal-prime> that kinda blows.  Use to be you just edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and put the gateway line in the interface block you wanted it to run on.
[04:53] <sbarreros> I don't have a clue how to go about troubleshooting this kind of problem
[04:53] <ikonia> chiggins: wait
[04:53] <ikonia> chiggins: are you using the ubuntu desktop install
[04:54] <Novus> <--- needs to kill his computer
[04:54] <ikonia> Novus: we don't need a commentary, we are here to help - not for you to vent
[04:55] <Novus> i am stuck on a "Ubuntu" screen like it's loading
[04:55] <Novus> i am trying to do a usb install
[04:55] <ikonia> Novus: probably taking a pause while it waits for a dhcp network address
[04:55] <grendal-prime> ok..now i have a question.  I have a kvm server with windoz boxes on it..(no crying..i was forced to do this for a client)  Anyway. I want them to be able to rdp to this windows box (that part is done) but..i also want them to be able to print to the printer on the ubuntu box(their local machine)
[04:55] <alkaliv2> sbarreros, what model is your webcam? If it's older it might not be supported in the new kernel from 12.04
[04:56] <Novus> any buttojn to click to by pass this
[04:56] <Novus> it's been sitting for 5 mins
[04:56] <grendal-prime> Novus, what is the machine?
[04:56] <ikonia> Novus: really 5 minutes
[04:56] <ikonia> Novus: I'd suggest removing the splash option as well as nomode set
[04:56] <Novus> yup
[04:56] <ikonia> Novus: see what's going on
[04:56] <guestaNdoy8> Hello, i've been waiting for a few hours now. I'd like to get som ehelp with a fresh install of ubuntu
[04:57] <grendal-prime> wow..alot of people stepping into the coolaid these days
[04:57] <grendal-prime> whats up?
[04:57] <bnsl> I promise to follow any advice with courtesy and will try my best to follow your advice
[04:57] <bnsl> I would just like to get this fresh install out of the way
[04:58] <bman25> ho
[04:58] <bman25> hi
[04:58] <ikonia> grendal-prime: is it the routing on kvm that's not clear ?
[04:58] <bnsl> To be honest, i'm planning on staying here for the next few hours waiting for help. I'll try googling in the mean time but please consider my issue unsolved if you haven't seen me say i've solved it otherwise
[04:59] <grendal-prime> ikonia, could be...
[04:59] <ikonia> grendal-prime: whats the IP range ?
[05:00] <grendal-prime> i just dont know what to do on the windows side.  Im using the remmina rdp client on the ubuntu box. there is an option to share local printers.
[05:00] <ikonia> grendal-prime: deal with one thing at a time
[05:00] <ikonia> get the routing sorted / rdp
[05:00] <ikonia> then deal with printing
[05:00] <grendal-prime> ok the client connects via openvpn.
[05:01] <ikonia> ok, so this is getting more complex
[05:01] <grendal-prime> ya..and i have a strong feeling the problem is the return route.
[05:01] <ikonia> grendal-prime: so he connects to the ubuntu host, or straight to windows guest network
[05:02] <grendal-prime> client -> vpn-> kvm(ubuntu) host -> internal nated kvm network -> windows guest.
[05:03] <ikonia> grendal-prime: thats %100 the return route
[05:03] <grendal-prime> ya,
[05:03] <ikonia> grendal-prime: the kvm iptables rules won't know to forward it back down the vpn connextion
[05:03] <ikonia> grendal-prime: I'm assuming your using livbirt to setup your guests ?
[05:03] <grendal-prime> im figuering the fastest way to get around it is to have the windows guest just vpn in to the same server
[05:04] <elisa87> !find libboost
[05:04] <bnsl> That really sucks that you've told me you don't want to help me at all ikonia. :[ You tell me that and here you are helping all these other people. You keep insisting to me over and over that you're fine and that I haven't offended you but how can I believe this when you are outright telling me you refuse to help or even talk to me? Seriously i'm sorry if I said or did something to offend you. I guess i'll just configure this
[05:04] <bnsl> reinstall myself
[05:04] <FloodBot1> bnsl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:04] <hedgehog35> Hello, I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what my problem is.  My home folder right now only has ~600MB free space despite it being on a drive that is 350TB.   It displays "Volume: unknown" when I press properties.  I think the problem is related to either permissions or the encrypted home folder function somehow but I don't know how to tell.  Can anyone point me to the set of steps I should take to figure out what is happening?
[05:04] <grendal-prime> put them both on the same vpn and allow client to client.
[05:05] <ikonia> bnsl: complaining in the channel just gets you put on ignore
[05:05] <ikonia> grendal-prime: just thinking
[05:06] <ikonia> grendal-prime: suggestion, give the windows machine an additional interface, map that interface with a tap/tun to the vpn interface on the host
[05:06] <grendal-prime> well im gonna try that and then see how it goes..its pretty simple to just add a client on the vpn.
[05:06] <ikonia> grendal-prime: so you go straight into the windows network and the return route is forced down the vpn
[05:07] <grendal-prime> the thing i was trying to figure out was...if any of that was nessary ..since the rdp client had the opton of sharing the printers..i was wondering if rdp did some sort of encasulated thing.
[05:07] <grendal-prime> and i mean i just dont know what to expect on the windows side.
[05:08] <ikonia> grendal-prime: I don't fully know how the client/server resource sharing works on rdp to be honest
[05:08] <grendal-prime> thats the thing i dont think anybody does
[05:08] <grendal-prime> hehehe
[05:09] <grendal-prime> i kinda got tricked into this bs hosting gig.  At 130am this mourning i threw my hands in the air and said..im never dealing with windows again..I havent had to touch a windows machine in over 6 years.
[05:10] <grendal-prime> you cant even do rdp with windows home addition?  what a joke.  These guys handed me 5 lisc keys for windows home.  I didnt even know what to do with them.
[05:13] <Novus> anyway to instal nomodset with usb?
[05:13] <ikonia> Novus: told you earlier, the same as a normal install
[05:14] <Novus> i tried with ubootin
[05:14] <Novus> I don't get the "F^" part to show up
[05:14] <ikonia> Novus: you just set it at boot time
[05:14] <Novus> I think only when you burn itt o CD it will work
[05:14] <ikonia> should work the same when you boot from usb
[05:14] <Novus> you would think thta yes
[05:14] <Novus> but it don't
[05:15] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure it does
[05:15] <Thanateros> Good night, i have a dude about XCHAT
[05:16] <elisa87> c
[05:16] <afflicto2> So I just change to ATI driver. logged back in and now I have no GUI. just the background. I can open a terminal window with CTRL+ALT+T though. help! :(
[05:16] <Novus> I been trying ubootin and lili
[05:16] <ouya> i don't need xchat anymore. i am chating with a html5 browser
[05:16] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604040/  do you know the reason for this error and its FIX ???  /bin/tar: /home/jalal/llvm/docs/html.tar: Cannot open: Permission denied
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: told you 7 times
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: told you what to do to fix it also
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: told you to stop trying to compile it
[05:17] <riefs> halo
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: told you to use the repo version
[05:17] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, you didn't use the aticonfig too?
[05:17] <alkaliv2> tool
[05:17] <elisa87> ikonia I am not finding what you said! can you copy paste what you said or just be SILENT and let other people help me
[05:17] <elisa87> ?
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: stop trying to compile it
[05:17] <ikonia> elisa87: use the versions from the repo
[05:18] <Novus> wait
[05:18] <elisa87> the version from repo is 2.9! I should install 3.1 which is in the svn !
[05:18] <Novus> I found out why it wasn't
[05:18] <Novus> I think
[05:18] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: I just opened the updates settings window and changed it from open source something something to ATI propriatery
[05:18] <Novus> will know in a sec
[05:18] <elisa87> the version from repo is 2.9! I should install 3.1 which is in the svn !  ikonia
[05:18] <ikonia> elisa87: 1.) the version in the repo is not 2.9 2.) you don't need 3.1 as there is a build for Ubuntu 11.04 - which doesn't have 3.1 - so you don't need 3.1
[05:18] <riefs> hello, i need some help. i want to delete some files on my bitbucket repository, i did it. but it still have large mb. any help?
[05:18] <ikonia> elisa87: I've explained all this to you 10 times
[05:19] <ikonia> elisa87: so if you keep asking for help - why don't you actually follow the help
[05:19] <elisa87> ikonia my Ununtu is 12.04 that;s the case
[05:19] <ikonia> elisa87: ok - so there is a build for 11.04 - that doesn't need 3.1
[05:19] <elisa87> the version for Ubuntu 12.04 is 2.9 now what's the solution ikonia
[05:19] <ikonia> elisa87: so I'm confident there is a version that will work with ubuntu 12.04
[05:20] <elisa87> if you are confident about that please give me a link or manual ikonia
[05:20] <ikonia> elisa87: either way, your machine is totally messed up at the moment and you'll need to re-install (as the guys in ##c told you)
[05:20] <afflicto2> alkaliv2:How can I switch back to using the open source one instead of ATI? this is too hard for me >.<
[05:20] <Thanateros> somebody can help with a dude about XCHAT
[05:20] <ikonia> elisa87: so if you are going to re-install, consider using 12.10
[05:20] <elisa87> how to re-install it ikonia?
[05:20] <ikonia> elisa87: that way you can use the package from the repo that is 3.1
[05:20] <ikonia> elisa87: download the 12.04 / 12.10 CD - burn CD boot from CD, click install, follow instructions
[05:20] <elisa87> what do you mean by considering 12.10? should I upgrade to 12.10?
[05:20] <ikonia> !install | elisa87
[05:21] <ikonia> elisa87: no - you should not upgrade, your machine is messed up thanks to you doing multiple botched source installs
[05:21] <elisa87> I have a ton of packages installed in 12.04 I cannot delete them!
[05:21] <ikonia> elisa87: do a re-install as the guys in ##c told you
[05:21] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, ok we need to pump the brakes for one second.  Just so I can get this all straight you cannot control your desktop currently or can you access a terminal on the desktop?
[05:21] <ikonia> elisa87: then you should have listened earlier when I told you approx 6 times to stop trying to compile it from source
[05:21] <elisa87> I restarted my machine so I don't have access to previous chats ...What did they said?
[05:21] <elisa87> ikonia how to re-install it?
[05:22] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, you can try alt+f2 to get the run menu to open if you have control
[05:22] <ikonia> elisa87: you need to do a re-install of the OS
[05:22] <ikonia> elisa87: if you are re-installing the OS - consider 12.10
[05:22] <grendal-prime> wait a min..why cant you delete the packages?
[05:22] <ikonia> grendal-prime: it's not packages
[05:22] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: I can move my mouse around. I see my wallpaper. I have a few terminal windows open.. I can open windows by right-clicking desktop etc. But no unity panels or dash.
[05:22] <ikonia> grendal-prime: he's tried to compile this around 5 time and dumped stuff everywhere,
[05:22] <elisa87> ikonia if I re-install the OS will all the packages in my Ubuntu 12.04 be deleted?
[05:22] <ikonia> elisa87: yes
[05:22] <ikonia> elisa87: you'll need to re-install them
[05:23] <grendal-prime> o
[05:23] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, ok cool just getting a grasp on the situation.  Give me one sec I'll grab you a guide
[05:23] <elisa87> so I cannot select  this option as I have an exam an I should run my simulator for the results...any way is there any other quicker fix to this mess? ikonia?
[05:23] <grendal-prime> ok ill agree with ikonia then..accept for the 12.10 part
[05:23] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: k
[05:23] <riefs> #Aceh
[05:23] <grendal-prime> i dont like non LTS
[05:23] <ikonia> elisa87: then you should have considered listening when I told you not to compile it from source multiple times
[05:23] <Novus> :9
[05:23] <pritesh> please help me, i installed ubuntu from minimal CD and then I installed XFCE, now i want to enable autologin, how can i ?
[05:24] <ikonia> elisa87: your best option is to backup any data you need, re-install 12.10 so you have the version of llvm you want and get on with it
[05:24] <grendal-prime> good god this is chaos !
[05:24] <elisa87> grendal-prime: I have PhD Qualifying exam starting in March 15 till 22 and I need result from my simulations and it's a hell lot of packages I've installed in Ubuntu 12.04 and I cannot forget about them as I installed them over a course of time ikonia
[05:25] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, Ok try to open firefox by pressing alt+f2 on your keyboard and then typing in firefox and hit enter
[05:25] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: alt+f2 did nothing :\
[05:25] <riefs> #BandaAceh
[05:25] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, after that visit this link in your browser and follow the terminal commands
[05:25] <grendal-prime> wow
[05:25] <alkaliv2> Ok np, you have more than one terminal open right?
[05:26] <afflicto2> alkalvi2: yea
[05:26] <grendal-prime> ok...sooo now im curiouse
[05:26] <riefs> hello, do you know how to delete some file on bitbucket repository?
[05:26] <Edler> hey guys
[05:26] <Edler> i need help with permissions
[05:26] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, ok cool, launch firefox in one so you can open this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[05:26] <grendal-prime> bitbucket...man this place is like irc on crack
[05:26] <Edler> i have a user1 which owns a folder
[05:26] <alkaliv2> meth actually
[05:26] <Edler> how can i make a user2 have the permissions to write and do anything in that folder which is owned by user1
[05:27] <Edler> ?
[05:27] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: how do I open ffx via terminal exactly? :P
[05:27] <grendal-prime> i got a space shuttle that blew apart on launch ..any ideas?
[05:27] <ikonia> grendal-prime: ok - give it a rest
[05:27] <elisa87> ikonia so you said there's no other solution that 12.10? are you sure?
[05:27] <ikonia> (please)
[05:27] <ikonia> elisa87: based on what you've said that is your "best" option
[05:27] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: nvm got it :P
[05:27] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, lol type firefox and hit enter or if that doesn't work type fire and hit tab to finish the command
[05:27] <riefs> i'm using ubuntu 12.04, i mean to remote and delete some Jar files there.
[05:27] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, sorry I was typing as fast as I could :D
[05:27] <elisa87> what are other options? ikonia
[05:28] <ikonia> elisa87: however I don't know the background or your other work
[05:28] <ikonia> elisa87: well, you'd need to manually find all the files you've installed linked against and remove them, make sure anything you are trying to do will link against the correct libraries .
[05:28] <grendal-prime> elisa87, im sorry  im just trying wrap my head around YOUR issue.  what files are you worried about?
[05:29] <ikonia> elisa87: keep in mind you've dumped files from failed compiles in /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /home/$user/usr/local/lib /home/$user/lib - just for example
[05:29] <elisa87> I've installed a thousand packages for high performance computing...I can;t go to 12.10 now
[05:29] <ikonia> elisa87: you've then tried to over write part of them witht the install from the package manager,
[05:29] <ikonia> your machine is in a mess
[05:29] <elisa87> ikonia how can I realize what are those packages I've installed? can I find them using my log or sth similar?
[05:30] <ikonia> elisa87: no - it's gone because you keep trying to compile
[05:30] <ikonia> elisa87: this is why I kept telling you not to try to compile this
[05:30] <elisa87> so can you probably tell me step by step how to detect it>? ikonia ?
[05:30] <ikonia> no
[05:30] <ikonia> it will take a very very very long time
[05:30] <ikonia> and even then - there is no promise
[05:31] <elisa87> is there a manual on fixing this ? ikonia
[05:31] <ikonia> hence why my opinion is a clean install where you have not messed it up
[05:31] <grendal-prime> elisa87,  the files you are worried about..they are located where?
[05:31] <qwertyomen> edler: by adding user 2 to user 1's group
[05:31] <grendal-prime> not the compiled stuff.. but you have data files somewhere?
[05:31] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: ok I've removed catalyst now. What now? restart?
[05:32] <qwertyomen> edler: then you change the read right permissions for groups
[05:32] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, you followed all the steps including the re-install of libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 xserver-xorg-core right?
[05:32] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: yep
[05:33] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, ok have faith in Ubuntu websites, cross your fingers, and sudo reboot from the terminal
[05:33] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, see you on the other side
[05:33] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: haha ok thanks :P
[05:33] <alkaliv2> godspeed son
[05:35] <Edler> queryomen: already did that, but it's not working
[05:35] <Edler> and when i run groups user2 i get user1 in the group list
[05:35] <pritesh> how can i enable autologin through command line on xfce4
[05:36] <avijit__> hi , ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) inbuild zabbix-agent1:1.8.1-1ubuntu1 pakage is not supported "cpu.load" in zabbix 2.0.4 server, please help me how can i slove the problem .
[05:36] <alkaliv2> pritesh, answer #2 http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[05:36] <ikonia> avijit__: where are you getting zabbix 2 server ?
[05:36] <afflicto2> yay
[05:37] <alkaliv2> success!
[05:37] <alkaliv2> you got unity back and everything looks right?
[05:37] <avijit__> ikonia : from zabbix side
[05:37] <ikonia> avijit__: so you'll need to get client monitors that match the version
[05:37] <ikonia> avijit__: why didn't you use the version of the server that is included in ubuntu ?
[05:38] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: yeah it looks like it's working! thanks a lot! :)
[05:38] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, Not a problem, I'm two for two now with ATI drivers.  If you feel like installing the ATI drivers from the AMD site follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website
[05:39] <pritesh> alkaliv2 i am not using any login manager
[05:39] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, not saying you need to use it now but if you want to in the future it can be done, I would know :D
[05:39] <avijit__> ikonia : included zabbix version is old in ubuntu
[05:39] <ikonia> avijit__: so ?
[05:39] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: Ok, I'll look into it tomorrow.
[05:39] <avijit__> i need new version
[05:39] <ikonia> avijit__: what's in version 2 that you want that's not in 1.8 ?
[05:39] <ikonia> avijit__: why, what's in 2 that's not in 1.8
[05:39] <alkaliv2> pritesh, so when you boot, you show a virtual terminal and you type startx to launch xfce4?
[05:40] <afflicto2> alkaliv2: alrighty I'm gonna get some sleep now. gnight!
[05:40]  * afflicto2 falls asleep instantly
[05:40] <alkaliv2> afflicto2, have a goodnight!
[05:40] <avijit__> no that not problem but any update version will available in lucid
[05:41] <ikonia> avijit__: why did you need version 2 instead of 1.8
[05:41] <Novus> here is something weird
[05:41] <pritesh> alkaliv2, yes so i want to enable auto login on tty1 and auto start the GUI
[05:42] <avijit__> ikonia:because some more fitures add in version 2
[05:42] <ikonia> avijit__: such as ?
[05:42] <Novus> ubuntu 9.10 will go into that menu for nomodset, but 12.04 don't
[05:42] <ikonia> avijit__: which ones do you need/want that are not in 1.8
[05:42] <ikonia> Novus: different grub version
[05:42] <Novus> sohow do I do the same with 12.04 then"?
[05:42] <ikonia> Novus: you need to press a key to get the grub menu in grub2
[05:42] <ikonia> Novus: left shift....I think
[05:43] <Novus> at what time?
[05:43] <alkaliv2> pritesh, I have not done this guide but you're welcome to give it a try http://blog.dhampir.no/content/debian-and-ubuntu-auto-login-and-xorg-without-a-display-manager
[05:44] <Novus> ah got it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:44] <Novus> ikona so
[05:44] <Novus> heads up
[05:44] <Novus> when you goot the cd-usb etc
[05:44] <Novus> at the bottom of the screen there is an icon thing
[05:44] <Novus> when you see that
[05:44] <Novus> yes puch left shift button
[05:44] <Novus> TY
[05:44] <Novus> hugs
[05:45] <ouya> i dislike dashboard in new gnome and kde
[05:45] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, how difficult would it be to change the style of the scroll bars based on a collection of image files i have?
[05:46] <ikonia> Pinkamena_D: you'd have to build a theme
[05:46] <Pinkamena_D> (replace the up and down arrow, bar, and overlay)
[05:46] <Pinkamena_D> Is their a write up on that which you know of?
[05:47] <ikonia> for unity, I don't know, but I'm sure there is, try a goolge on "unity themes howto"
[05:47] <ikonia> or something along those lines
[05:50] <alkaliv2> I hate that he left, I wanted to ask if his name was Ice Damage or Iced a Mage
[05:50] <Novus> hmmm
[05:50] <Novus> I get same hang up but with differnt GUI
[05:52] <ikonia> Novus: did you disable the splash screen as I told you ?
[05:53] <Novus> noapic?
[05:53] <ikonia> no
[05:53] <ikonia> the splash screen
[05:53] <ikonia> no-one told you to do noapic
[05:53] <Novus> nomodset?
[05:53] <ikonia> no
[05:53] <ikonia> not no mode set
[05:53] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <Novus> sorry,.. explain
[05:54] <Novus> I got the F6 manu up now
[05:54] <ikonia> Novus: I told you to do nomodeset - that worked but you got it hanging on the boot screen, I suggested disabling the splash screen to see what happened bahind it
[05:54] <ikonia> Novus: you said "ok"
[05:54] <Novus> how do i disable splash sreen?
[05:54] <Novus> hit esc?
[05:54] <ikonia> no
[05:55] <Novus> then how?
[05:55] <ikonia> there should be a "splash" option - remove it or change it to nosplash
[05:55] <ikonia> Novus: if you don't know how just ask
[05:55] <ikonia> Novus: rather than doing nothing then still being surprised it doesn't work
[05:55] <Novus> where is that no splash menu?
[05:55] <Novus> oroption
[05:55] <ikonia> it's a kernel boot option, like nomodeset
[05:56] <ikonia> you remove the splash line, or remove the splash line and add nosplash
[05:56] <avijit__> ikonia : i have installed zabbix 2.0.4 and it's working fine, i want to use in bulid zabbix-agent pakage in ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) but it's not support "cpu.load" please tell me how to slove the problem
[05:56] <ikonia> avijit__: why did you install zabbix 2 instead of the ubuntu supplied version
[05:57] <Novus> _._
[05:57] <avijit__> have any solution for my problem ?
[05:57] <ikonia> avijit__: why did you install zabbix 2 instead of the ubuntu supplied version
[05:57] <alkaliv2> Novus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337602
[05:58] <avijit__> ikonia : because it's update version
[05:58] <ikonia> avijit__: what do you need in version 2 that's not in version 1
[05:59] <alkaliv2> we need to just start linking people to 13.04
[05:59] <ikonia> avijit__: that wasn't my question
[05:59] <Novus> i don't get that far
[05:59] <ikonia> avijit__: oops, sorry that was for alkaliv2
[05:59] <ikonia> alkaliv2: what deo you mean linking people to 13.04 ?
[06:00] <alkaliv2> ikonia, lol sorry it was a joke.  That's the second person to complain they need a higher version than stable.  Bad joke at a bad time
[06:01] <alkaliv2> Novus, Not a problem, the command can be issued from the grub screen.  You can choose fallback or normal ubuntu at the grub menu right?
[06:01] <Edler> guys please help. I have userA and userB and a folder X that userA owns which is chmodded to 770. I have added userB to the userA group but i still can't write inside that folder. What am i doing wrong?
[06:01] <vacho> zip -r /home/dev9/public_html/wordpess_base.zip .
[06:02] <vacho> how come that zips all sub folders and files but not the files in root folder????
[06:02] <ikonia> Edler: please show me the output from the command "id" as user b
[06:02] <Novus> under mode?
[06:02] <Novus> i see normal, use driver update disc, oem install
[06:02] <Mokilok> Hello everyone, Is there a way to RDP to configure the desktop edition of Ubuntu 12.10 as an RDP server. I want multiple users to be able to login at once.
[06:02] <vacho> would really appreciate help.
[06:02] <ikonia> Mokilok: looks at ltsp
[06:03] <ikonia> !ltsp | Mokilok
[06:03] <ouya> afaik, ubuntu 13.04 is not LTS?
[06:03] <alkaliv2> Novus, you're using a livedisk aren't you.  Sorry, new to the issue
[06:03] <Novus> i am now, it is through an external usb dvd drive
[06:03] <Mokilok> thank you for the suggestions.
[06:03] <Edler> ikonia: 1 sec
[06:04] <Edler> ikonia: it does not contain userA
[06:04] <alkaliv2> Novus, read post #3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472054
[06:04] <Edler> so we have a problem
[06:04] <raj> ikonia, Lubuntu?
[06:04] <Edler> even though groups userB shows userA
[06:04] <ikonia> raj: what about it ?
[06:04] <raj> it's just the preselected group of packages?
[06:04] <ikonia> raj: pretty much
[06:04] <raj> so what's with the Desktop version?
[06:04] <Edler> ikonia: logged out and back in and now i see userA
[06:04] <raj> I was ognna install minimal
[06:05] <ikonia> raj: you said you where going to put a desktop on - this is the best way to do it
[06:05] <raj> what DE does it use?
[06:05] <ikonia> lxde
[06:06] <ikonia> you want open box
[06:06] <raj> yes
[06:06] <ikonia> it's a fine place to start
[06:06] <raj> ok
[06:06] <alkaliv2> crunchbang
[06:06] <ikonia> alkaliv2: ?
[06:06] <raj> ikonia, the minimal uses lxde, right?
[06:06] <alkaliv2> raj, http://crunchbang.org/
[06:06] <ikonia> raj: no, it has nothing
[06:06] <ikonia> alkaliv2: no, - that's not what he asked for
[06:06] <alkaliv2> crunchbang is ubuntu with openbox
[06:07] <ikonia> it's more than that
[06:07] <alkaliv2> it's a start...
[06:07] <ikonia> no - it's not
[06:07] <ikonia> it's a different distro
[06:07] <raj> what distro?
[06:08] <alkaliv2> it's a debian distro which means it uses debian repositories and not ubuntu.  Good catch ikonia
[06:08] <raj> ah, gotcha
[06:08] <xangua> alkaliv2: and unsupported here, why do keep people mention it all this day¿
[06:08] <alkaliv2> xangua, cause at one time it was ubuntu based
[06:09] <ikonia> even then it's not properly compatible with the repos
[06:09] <Novus> when I hit esc as in the tut it leaves to another mode and I cannot edit anything
[06:10] <Novus> if you have skype I have a camera I can point to the screen
[06:10] <sgo11> The option "Add this password to your keyring" is always checked by default. This is very annoyed. How can I make it unchecked by default? thanks.
[06:12] <alkaliv2> Novus, not necessary. Are you trying to re-install the OS with the live disk?  And is it the desktop or alternate installer?
[06:13] <Novus> yes, fresh install. From the ISO so I am at grub atm
[06:13] <alkaliv2> Novus, but when you hit esc it freezes the menu and you have no control?
[06:14] <Novus> when I hit esc,.. it then says "you are leaving the graphical boot menu and starting the text mode interface' ok - Cancel
[06:15] <alkaliv2> and you hit ok
[06:15] <Novus> yup and it reboots
[06:16] <Novus> if I hit shift it comes back to that grub menu again
[06:16] <Novus> then if I try nomodset then install it just  goes to a blank screen with a curser flashign top left
[06:17] <Novus> no I am getting errors
[06:17] <alkaliv2> my info was dated. Try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/152847/how-to-access-boot-options-12-04-live-usb
[06:18] <alkaliv2> you should be able to add to the boot options line quiet splash
[06:21] <akashj87> Hi All .. every now and then i keep seeing popups that connection is disconnected in Ubuntu Guest OS (Inside VirtualBox) ... I am using host-only adapter ..how can i check logs to see where the issue is ?
[06:21] <akashj87> i dont have /var/log/messages
[06:22] <sgo11> How can I disable the keyring? or How can I make " "Add this password to your keyring" to be unchecked by default? this keyring thing is very annoyed. thanks.
[06:22] <Novus> if it helps I know KDE veriosn will work
[06:22] <Novus> but I'd rather have reg
[06:23] <alkaliv2> Novus, so you couldn't change the boot options from the livecd menu?
[06:23] <Novus> under the F6 menu?
[06:23] <Novus> yes
[06:23] <Novus> I tried that tut you just showed me and still not working
[06:26] <alkaliv2> akashj87, this might solve it https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40856
[06:26] <raj> there has to be a way to use 12.10 repositories in 11.04
[06:27] <alkaliv2> sgo11, http://www.fandigital.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-unlock-keyring-in-ubuntu.html might help
[06:28] <alkaliv2> raj, you can but you'll end up updating to 12.10
[06:28] <sgo11> alkaliv2, thanks. let me see.
[06:28] <alkaliv2> Novus, having an interesting time with this one.  are you using 12.04 or 12.10?
[06:28] <Novus> .04
[06:28] <lcabreza1> is there a way for pidgin to accept excel format of text just like lync ?
[06:29] <akashj87> alkaliv2 : Thanks, but my issue is different. In my case i dont think the connectivity is hit , but I keep getting popups that wired connection is disconnected ..and FYI .. I am using static IP in host-only networking.
[06:29] <alkaliv2> Novus, for kicks will you try the normal version of 12.10 and see if it locks?
[06:29] <Novus> sure
[06:31] <alkaliv2> akashj87, the logfile you want it /var/log/syslog when it disconnects. That should be your networking log
[06:32] <Novus> DLing it now
[06:32] <Novus> the cpu is 64 bit
[06:32] <sgo11> alkaliv2, sorry, I don't see how that page helps me. I want to disable the keyring. That page just teaches how to use keyring. I don't want it to store keyring at all. my evolution always pop up with password request dialog with "Add password to keyring" as a default option (checked). this is annoyed. I have to uncheck the checkbox everytime. especially, I have many mailboxes. thanks.
[06:32] <Novus> but i am going to try 32bit just encse
[06:32] <akashj87> alkaliv2 : thanks , i will check the logs.
[06:34] <dr_willis> if you set a blank password for the main keyring password - it never asks again sgo11  - but thats the extent to me using the keyring. :) i dont use evolution so no idea on its keyring ussage
[06:35] <alkaliv2> sgo11, another solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=814271&page=4
[06:36] <skyjumper> i've got a problem with gnu screen, but it's only on this one box
[06:36] <sgo11>  dr_willis thanks for your suggestion. The seahorse does not ask me to give a main keyring password with the latest version. let me see...
[06:36] <skyjumper> screen doesn't detect terminal window size changes
[06:37] <dr_willis> sgo11:  i recall it normally asking on the first use. people often enter their login password out of habbit.
[06:37] <skyjumper> if i resize the terminal, screen never refreshes
[06:37] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  check your TERM setting, and what terminal app are you using?
[06:37] <skyjumper> i can `stty size` and get the correct number
[06:37] <skyjumper> dr_willis: happens in both gnome-terminal and xterm
[06:37] <dr_willis> this is screening from a ubuntu box to a ubuntu box?
[06:37] <skyjumper> tried `dpkg --purge screen` and running under new user
[06:38] <skyjumper> dr_willis: just on one box
[06:38] <alkaliv2> raj, did you find out what you needed?  Are you still trying to do a minimal install with just xorg and openbox?  I can link you to a tutorial
[06:38] <skyjumper> $TERM = xterm
[06:38] <sgo11> dr_willis, yeah. that is the usual case. but I don't remember it does it at this time. I am using seahorse 3.6.2. let me see..
[06:38] <raj> alkaliv2, yes
[06:39] <raj> in fact, I'm gonna switch to arch
[06:39] <raj> so I never have to replace my OS again
[06:39] <skyjumper> happens in konsole also
[06:39] <raj> just to change repo's
[06:39] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  what ubuntu release?
[06:39] <raj> yay http://willensky.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-setup-arch-linux.html
[06:39] <skyjumper> screen 4.0.3-14ubuntu9. should be latest stable
[06:39] <skyjumper> dr_willis: quantal
[06:40] <alkaliv2> raj, it's a rolling release so it will be good and bad.  I wish you luck and please have the arch beginners guide nearby if you haven't installed it before. They got rid of the installer
[06:40] <\varnothing> \help
[06:40] <\varnothing> woops, sorry
[06:41] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  im testing screen via running mc in it. and resizeing the terminal window.. gnome-terminal - it dosent auto resize... in terminator it does...
[06:41] <dr_willis> and terminator is using gnome-terminal with some extra stuff..
[06:41] <alkaliv2> raj, 2010 is too old. It still had the installer.  Use this guide http://lifehacker.com/5680453/build-a-killer-customized-arch-linux-installation-and-learn-all-about-linux-in-the-process
[06:42] <skyjumper> dr_willis: dosen't resize in terminator here
[06:42] <alkaliv2> raj, and this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
[06:42] <skyjumper> always worked in gnome_terminal though
[06:42] <raj> beginners guide isn't as good as it was when arch used the installer
[06:42] <raj> it was more applicable then, i feel
[06:42] <raj> although, yes, it is generally applicable
[06:43] <alkaliv2> raj, true but /arch/setup no longer exists so you'll be using cfdisk and mounting everything manually before running the single install script.  Even grub2 will be a manual install
[06:43] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  how are you testing this exactly?
[06:43] <skyjumper> dr_willis: opening terminal, running mc, resizing terminal, Ctrl-L to refresh
[06:44] <skyjumper> works on every other machine
[06:44] <ouya> i am using manjaro. am i using sort of arch?
[06:44] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  it just started working in gnome-terminal here...   ;)
[06:44] <skyjumper> also broken with the latest debian testing version of screen
[06:44] <bertv> Anyone has had the same problem while installing ltsp after reboot my ubuntu is stuck in initram busybox
[06:44] <skyjumper> wtf
[06:44] <dr_willis> skyjumper:  it just started working in xterm also....
[06:44] <ouya> skyjumper: congratuations
[06:45] <ouya> skyjumper: i forgot to tell you --- ltsp has bugs on ubuntu...
[06:45] <alkaliv2> ouya, yes it's built on top of arch the way ubuntu is built on debian
[06:45] <raj> alkaliv2, i didn't like that whole mounting experience
[06:46] <ouya> skyjumper: i know that because i install ltsp and fully test it
[06:46] <bertv> ouya do you mean bugs like in dropping to busybox after reboot?
[06:46] <skyjumper> ouya: i don't even have ltsp installed
[06:46] <dr_willis> !find  add-apt-repository
[06:47] <skyjumper> broken with debian stable's screen
[06:47] <ouya> skyjumper: lol
[06:47] <alkaliv2> raj, you will have to use the commands with the live cd.  Believe me, I'm not a fan either.  They basically made it slightly easier gentoo
[06:47] <Novus> ok back
[06:47] <Novus> still no luck
[06:48] <alkaliv2> did you try 12.10?
[06:48] <Novus> yes
[06:48] <Novus> I get the same exactt hing
[06:49] <raj> alkaliv2, *in gentoo?
[06:49] <alkaliv2> You can go one of two ways with this.  Using the alternate cd will get it installed no problem because the installer is text based.  However, when you go to boot ubuntu it might get stuck at the same spot
[06:50] <alkaliv2> raj, gentoo and arch have a similar install scheme.  Manual setup and then automatic install of their packages from tarballs
[06:50] <Novus> can i install ubuntu 9.10 and upgrade to 12?
[06:51] <dr_willis> Novus:  that might work.. or may waste a lot of time.
[06:51] <luke> hi guys
[06:51] <Deathlire> would be a waste of time
[06:51] <alkaliv2> Novus, there have been lots and lots of changes since then.  One of which I imagine was your bootloader grub2
[06:51] <Novus> well I know I can load 9.10 on it
[06:51] <dr_willis> you could do an install to a usb flash on a differnt pc.. then boot it on the problem pc and dd/image it to the  problem pc
[06:52] <ouya> is ubuntu v10.04 really end-of-life in this month?
[06:52] <dr_willis> actually it would be an interesting test if grub2 from a full install on a live cd worked or not
[06:52] <somsip> !10.04
[06:52] <dr_willis>  oops i ment a live usb.
[06:53] <ouya> *sigh...
[06:53] <Guest15596> i'm thinking of unistalling ubuntu and going to microsift, what do you guys think?
[06:53] <Novus> die
[06:53] <alkaliv2> too legit luke
[06:53] <alkaliv2> give it a run
[06:53] <alkaliv2> go with windows 8
[06:53] <dr_willis> Guest15596:  we really dont care what you do.. if you have a support question - ask it..
[06:53] <Deathlire> win8 really? lol
[06:53] <ouya> uninstall? for my, each version of ubuntu is just a ufd
[06:53] <gamerx> Hey
[06:53] <alkaliv2> well I want him to come back :D
[06:53] <gamerx> We have a VM that used to have a singe NIC. - This was working great. Today, we needed it to have another IP address for a different service, so we have added another NIC. It is being detected, and I can ifup/ifdown it, but it will not respond.
[06:54] <raj> alkaliv2, that arch link didn't deal with openbox
[06:54] <Guest15596> ah, just kidding. i thought i'd attempt to troll a little
[06:54] <Kartagis> ikonia: are you there?
[06:54] <dr_willis> one way to get booted quickly Guest15596
[06:54]  * ouya arranges ubuntu ufds in a row
[06:54] <alkaliv2> raj, no openbox is as easy to install on ubuntu minimal as it is on arch linux. It's just a apt-get install openbox or pacman -Sy openbox
[06:55] <raj> is `/` a label?
[06:55] <dreki> Guest15596: #ubuntu-offtopic is for non support related comments
[06:55] <Kartagis> raj: no, it represents root directory
[06:55] <ouya> can i use pacman on manjaro?
[06:56] <Guest15596> i have a new computer with loads of ram; is there an easy way to change to ubuntu 64bit or do i have to reinstall everything?
[06:56] <MarcS1989> Hello. My sound isn't working on 12.04. I've been crawling the web like a google bot searching for help, and there are a LOT of suggestions. Everyone seems to have a different idea for what works best for them. So, is it better just to try all of them? Will I risk damaging myself and having more problems? Should I try doing each one at once, rebooting and testing the old fashioned way or is there another way to find a more specifi
[06:56] <MarcS1989> c solution to my problem?
[06:56] <alkaliv2> ouya, it should be used by default...
[06:56] <ouya> i am on the manjaro now
[06:56] <Novus> this is driving me bat shit crazy
[06:56] <ouya> oh
[06:56] <gamerx> Guest15596: Linux 32-bit is fine. You only need 64 bit if you have truely excessive RAm.
[06:56] <alkaliv2> ouya, this is unofficial advice.  open a terminal and type 'pacman -Sy'
[06:57] <ouya> ok
[06:57] <alkaliv2> ouya, you'll have to be root or sudo
[06:57] <Guest15596> 8gb ram
[06:58] <skyjumper> aha the problem is just mc
[06:58] <alkaliv2> Novus, you should try the alternate cd, honestly
[06:58] <alkaliv2> Novus, if it gets any further than the original you'll know it's the gui
[06:58] <ouya> alkaliv2: manjaro says that S is an invalid option
[06:58] <gamerx> Guest15596: AFAIk 32-bit Ubuntu won't have any issues addressing that much RAM.
[06:59] <Guest15596> linux 32bit is fine with 8gb ram is it? would there be much point for me to change to 64bit?
[06:59] <Novus> you got to be shitting me
[06:59] <Novus> i think i figured this out
[06:59] <Deathlire> what kind of comp do you have Novus ?
[06:59] <alkaliv2> Novus, if it doesn't they that most likely means they dropped a feature along the ubuntu kernel line that your computer needs to run
[06:59] <Novus> bio star bare bones
[06:59] <Novus> wait
[06:59] <Novus> I think I figured it out
[06:59] <Deathlire> older one?
[06:59] <alkaliv2> ouya, I don't know what to tell you, it's in there http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Pacman
[06:59] <gamerx> I'm not sure if anyone saw my question previously?
[06:59] <Novus> yes like 5 years I think
[07:00] <Novus> rigth after they started using 64bit
[07:00] <Deathlire> with intel onboard graphics?
[07:00] <ouya> alkaliv2: i am chatting with you with manjaro's chromium
[07:00] <alkaliv2> Novus, you might be running pata or ide drives.  I don't know if the current kernels still use that
[07:00] <alkaliv2> lubuntu or xubuntu might since they are made to run on old hardware
[07:00] <Novus> ide
[07:01] <Deathlire> ide still works..just isn't the best
[07:01] <Novus> but your partially right
[07:01] <alkaliv2> ouya, that link says your OS uses it.  I don't know why it doesn't recognize the command
[07:01] <dreki> gamerx: I didn't see your question.
[07:01] <Novus> i just unpluged the crappy CD-rom from the IDE cable and it's doing something different
[07:01] <Novus> stay tuned
[07:02] <alkaliv2> Lol we may have solved your problem
[07:02] <Deathlire> but similarly I have a comp back home thats a P4 32bit..that i couldn't get anything newer than 10.04 32 to run on..had something to do with the X server I'm pretty sure
[07:02] <alkaliv2> no ide support
[07:02] <Novus> that pos cd-rom wasn't even dvd drive
[07:02] <gamerx> I have a VM that used to have a single NIC. - This was working fine. Today, we needed it to have another IP address for a different service, so we have added another NIC. It is being detected, and I can ifup/ifdown it, but it will not respond to pings, etc.
[07:02] <Novus> somethign is loading now
[07:02] <OerHeks> alkaliv2, Novus ide/pata is still supported
[07:02] <Deathlire> well..hmm pretty sure i had my sata dvd burner hooked up with my segate sata
[07:03] <Novus> would a faulty CD drive do this?
[07:03] <Deathlire> a faulty anything may do something..
[07:03] <gamerx> It's using a static Ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:03] <Novus> next step is
[07:03] <Novus> should I still run nomodset?
[07:03] <alkaliv2> Novus, try it both ways
[07:03] <Guest15596> i don't think my graphics card is fully supported
[07:04] <Novus> I'll try it that way
[07:04] <Novus> cause I think that's what I had to do a few years ago
[07:04] <alkaliv2> OerHeks, I did not know that and I apologize for my ignorance.  I assumed that if it ran without the ide component plugged in that there was no support in the kernel by default
[07:04] <alkaliv2> OerHeks, maybe a module that wasn't being loaded
[07:04] <Novus> I'm going to drop kick this cd-rom down the streem if this is the problem
[07:04] <Novus> street*
[07:04] <Novus> or smash it with a hammer :)
[07:04] <alkaliv2> Dude throw it in a stream too for good measure :D
[07:04] <dreki> gamerx: I cant help you with that, sorry. Maybe someone else can.
[07:04] <Deathlire> what kind of video does that barebone have Novus ?
[07:05] <gamerx> I've tried various ways to fix it, teken it up/down, rebooted, it's still not working, I was wondering if someone would eb able to assist, or suggest something that may help?
[07:05] <Novus> nvidia, but it had add on card
[07:05] <Novus> I took that out to just to be sure
[07:05] <Novus> that they are both nvidia I think
[07:05] <Deathlire> an older agp?
[07:05] <raj> does a swap partition have to be mounted?
[07:06] <dreki> raj: no
[07:06] <alkaliv2> gamerx, you can try checking the logfile at /var/log/syslog for the error
[07:06] <raj> thank you
[07:06] <dr_willis> you use the swapon command for swap partitions
[07:06] <ouya> it shouldn't
[07:06] <dr_willis> you cant 'mount' swap ;)
[07:06] <ouya> you can just enable or disable it
[07:06] <alkaliv2> tell that to gparted
[07:06] <Novus> it's working!
[07:06] <Deathlire> if ya was able to mount swap it would cause some probs lol..
[07:06] <Novus> w/ nomodset
[07:06] <dr_willis> ive seen live cds auto-activate swap partions if its seen
[07:07] <Novus> it was the stupid cd-rom
[07:07] <Novus> I'm smashing that pos
[07:07] <Deathlire> nomodset or nomodeset?
[07:07] <alkaliv2> Novus, well after X amount of hours we decided your hardware works for no man.  Kudos on the troubleshooting
[07:08] <Novus> I was about to think this was a MAC
[07:08] <Novus> lol
[07:09] <raj> what does `# arch-chroot /mnt` do?
[07:09] <raj> what's chroot?
[07:09] <ikonia> raj: where does it tell you to do that
[07:10] <alkaliv2> lol in the arch beginners guide
[07:10] <cfhowlett> !chroot|raj,
[07:10] <ikonia> alkaliv2: can you please keep the comments out of the channel, I'm getting a bit tired of having to ask
[07:10] <ikonia> alkaliv2: I'm asking him a perfectly reasonable question,
[07:11] <alkaliv2> ikonia, and I was answering you because I told him where to go when he asked me how to install arch.  I'm not making comments that are not pertinent
[07:11] <sgo11> Hi, with ubuntu gnome remix 12.10, after the grub screen, there is a screen displayed "Ubuntu Gnome" and 4 dots progress bar. How can I modify this screen? I am not sure if this is the same as the normal ubuntu 12.10 release or not. Thanks.
[07:11] <ikonia> alkaliv2: right - so I need to understand if this is part of the arch wiki - in which case nothing to do with this channel - or if this is a command such as an architecture chroot, hence asking HIM and letting HIM answer
[07:11] <gamerx> alkaliv2: It's not got anything in the syslog around anything failing. I can ifup/ifdown just fine. It's just that the machine isn't responding on that IP.
[07:12] <pritesh> is "/usr/share/man" important or i can delete it ??
[07:12] <alkaliv2> ikonia, I am catching you up because while you were gone I was helping the people in this channel and he is slow to respond.  I pointed him in the right direction and I was saving you the time of trying to discover what he was doing and how it was not related to ubuntu
[07:13] <ikonia> alkaliv2: ok, so you are %100 certain this is because he's following an arch guide ?
[07:13] <Novus> what about this
[07:13] <alkaliv2> gamerx, you've got me stumped.  If there is no logfile error to report then I'm out of league
[07:13] <Novus> the hd is set to master and the cd-romis set to cable select
[07:13] <Novus> would that effect it?
[07:14] <Komzpa> Novus: depends on where on cable you attach the CD-rom
[07:14] <alkaliv2> ikonia, if you scroll up I posted him two links because he said he did not want to update his ubuntu repositories ever again. I linked him directly to the lifehacker arch install guide and the arch beginner guide that he told me he was following step by step
[07:14] <Novus> in slave position
[07:14] <Novus> wait let me check
[07:14] <ikonia> alkaliv2: that wasn't what I asked you
[07:14] <gamerx> Well, i was getting some erros before saying "RTNETLINK: File exists"
[07:14] <Komzpa> Novus: (and whether you have cable that allows selection)
[07:15] <Novus> was in master slot
[07:15] <skyjumper> so in mc, when it doesn't respond to terminal resizes, `stty size` still shows the original size and not the new size
[07:15] <alkaliv2> ikonia, yes I am positive https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Chroot_and_configure_the_base_system
[07:15] <skyjumper> like a signal isn't being sent
[07:15] <ikonia> alkaliv2: ok
[07:15] <skyjumper> tried `killall -SIGWINCH mc`, no luck
[07:16] <Novus> how can i tell if the cable allows it?
[07:16] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I have installed ubuntu12.04 installed. And by default I have got mysql5.5.29. How do I upgrade it to mysql5.6?
[07:16] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: you don't
[07:16] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: you are supposed to stick with the package versions offered in the ubuntu repos
[07:16] <alkaliv2> sgo11, did anyone answer you?
[07:17] <sgo11> alkaliv2, no. do you know the answer? :)
[07:17] <alkaliv2> indeed :D http://handytutorial.com/change-the-boot-splash-screen-theme-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[07:19] <Novus> next question is audio and video drivers
[07:22] <the_dark_knight> ikonia: Why can't I upgrade it?
[07:23] <sgo11> alkaliv2, I am not sure if gnome remix is the same as normal ubuntu release. At least, gnome remix is using gdm instead of lightdm. I installed "plymouth-x11". and then run "sudo plymouthd ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 10 ; sudo killall plymouthd". the screen is not the one I saw during boot. It used to be the one I saw during boot in ubuntu 11.10. (not sure if my words make sense to you or not). I will try to check plymouth again. thanks.
[07:23] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight:  normally one sticks to whats in the repositories. You can look for PPA's or other places for newer versions
[07:23] <Novus> omfg how do I remove unity? and go back to the old style?
[07:23] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight:  its possible newer versions are in backports repo also
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> !nounity
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> Novus: see above
[07:25] <alkaliv2> sgo11, No that guide is for normal gnome and unity.  You'll have to google for the splash screen associated with gnome 3.x
[07:26] <sgo11> alkaliv2, thanks. let me check. :)
[07:27] <Novus> why did they have to add this POSO
[07:27] <dr_willis> Novus:  get over it...
[07:27] <dr_willis> ranting elsewhere please
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> Novus: to create real change in ux, you don't make impacts by just making the 2 panel set up 'a little better'.
[07:29] <dr_willis> Darn people for trying to be innovative...
[07:29] <Novus> inovatid is fine
[07:29] <Novus> but unity is like win 8\
[07:30] <dr_willis> Err.. No its not.
[07:30] <Novus> it's crap
[07:30] <dr_willis> it was out some time befor win8
[07:30] <Novus> eh,.. anyway
[07:30] <dr_willis> and it works very well.
[07:30] <ServerSage> Novus: THis is a topic that has been beaten to death in here.  Please, for the LOVE of GOD, drop it.
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> if anything it's more mac like
[07:30] <Novus> oh I know
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Novus, as you are not seeking tech advice, perhaps you'd better happier discussing this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:30] <Novus> it it was so good they should have left it in the app market and let people DL it
[07:30] <alkaliv2> I can't find a definitive source.  Does gnome remix 12.10 use plymouth as the boot-up splash or is it something different altogether?
[07:31] <dr_willis> Novus:  the GNOME Devs Killed off GNome2.
[07:31] <CarlosMadrid35> hello
[07:31] <cfhowlett> CarlosMadrid35, greetings
[07:31] <CarlosMadrid35> greetings cfhowlett
[07:31] <dr_willis> alkaliv2:  i imaine they all use plymouth
[07:31] <CarlosMadrid35> could someone tell me the meaning of "stay over there"?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> CarlosMadrid35, um, this is ubuntu support ... and that's not an ubuntu statement
[07:32] <{{mikey}}> dr_willis: & alkaliv2, I've never heard of it, but does it not use upstart like the rest of ubuntu?
[07:32] <alex__> i0òi
[07:32] <CarlosMadrid35> i went to english channel but nobody answered me
[07:32] <cfhowlett> CarlosMadrid35, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:33] <dr_willis> {{mikey}}:  ive not seen a ubuntu variant that dosent use upstart..
[07:33] <CarlosMadrid35> no cfhowlett
[07:33] <alkaliv2> {{mikey}} dr_willis, I was assuming so.  sgo11 was asking me how to change the themes for plymouth but I linked him to an article http://handytutorial.com/change-the-boot-splash-screen-theme-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[07:33] <CarlosMadrid35> excuse me
[07:33] <alkaliv2> he says it didn't change it for him
[07:33] <dr_willis> theres plymouth themes in the repos. and you use the alternatives system i recall
[07:33] <dr_willis> should be a guide on it at the askubuntu.com site
[07:34] <{{mikey}}> Sorry, I obviously missed the start of that conversation
[07:34] <alkaliv2> No problem, I was just trying to make sure I told him right and that the splash was indeed plymouth even on UGR
[07:35] <sgo11> I don't think ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 is using plymouth. I can not find what it uses by google either.
[07:36] <OerHeks> sgo11,  we can't tell either, as ubuntu-remix is a derivate.
[07:36] <sgo11> OerHeks, I think you mean ubuntu-gnome, right? I am asking there. not many people in that channel. haven't got the answer.
[07:37] <worm> I had just upgraded my nautilus to 3.6.3, which changed a lot on the UI and hotkeys and made me feel so unfamiliar. Is there anyway to downgrade it?
[07:38] <sgo11> By the way, even if ubuntu gnome remix is not using plymouth, how can I ask it to use plymouth? in that way, I can then modify that splash screen. :) thanks.
[07:38] <OerHeks> worm, how did you upgrade ?
[07:38] <worm> OerHeks: By fetching the .deb file from ubuntu repo manually and then dpkg
[07:39] <alkaliv2> sgo11, even if you could you'd have to be able to disable whatever was running by default so the two don't run together at startup
[07:39] <alkaliv2> worm, if you need a guide http://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/
[07:39] <sgo11> alkaliv2, is that possible to find out what is running by default by checking some configuration files? thanks.
[07:40] <worm> I thought that version had been added to the repo in 13.04, so I thought that it should be safety enough and then upgraded it. However the huge changes made me unfamiliar and I decided to downgrade it. That is the whole story...
[07:41] <Novus> do they install grub now when there is no other systen oboard?
[07:41] <sgo11> worm, I am using nautilus 3.6.3. it's pretty cool. you should stick with it. the GUI will be upgrade to it sooner or later from my point of view. hehe. :)
[07:41] <OerHeks> worm, uninstall & purge the files, and reinstall nautilus from softwarecentre
[07:42] <worm> Thanks. I'll try that.
[07:42] <alkaliv2> sgo11, if you google each process by following this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/37957/how-do-i-manage-applications-on-startup-in-gnome-3 you might find out what to disable
[07:42] <alkaliv2> sgo11, I repeat.  Might.
[07:42] <piet> good morning... hp pavilion laptop, win7 and ubuntu 12.04 dual boot... yesterday using the package manager willing to update from 12.04 to 12.10... now can't even start ubuntu anymore... in grub is asking win or ubuntu, choose ubuntu then screen goes black... however, with famous drum sound still going after a few secs
[07:42] <sgo11> alkaliv2, thanks. let me see. :)
[07:43] <alkaliv2> piet, can you ctrl+alt+f1 to a login terminal from the black screen?
[07:44] <piet> @alkaliv2: i can try various things, but always no image
[07:45] <Novus> well this is kewl
[07:45] <Novus> they ficex audo right out of the box
[07:46] <sgo11> I have another question. not sure if I can ask here. it's ubuntu gnome remix too. When I click "power off", my laptop can not be shutdown properly. This problem happens 95% of time. The keyboard is no longer functional after clicking the poweroff button. but all led lights are still on. btw, sudo shutdown -h now is working fine. thanks.
[07:47] <alkaliv2> piet, one thing to try choosing the recovery mode kernel, opening your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and seeing what errors you are getting from boot up
[07:47] <Novus> i got to say
[07:47] <Novus> this sounds better then wmp
[07:47] <Novus> lol
[07:48] <Novus> how do I see if my drivers where installed for display?
[07:49] <piet> i tried the recovery mode already (i have two versions for recovery mode: something number 28 and number 35 or something like that): when starting the 28, it says problem with my graphics card, and the screen where it asks me what to do freezes, and the 35 also goes black
[07:49]  * the_dark_knight is studying apparmor
[07:49] <alkaliv2> Novus, Nvidia-legacy drivers aren't installed by default.  Likely you are running nouveau
[07:50] <Novus> right so how do I check that?
[07:51] <Novus> nm
[07:51] <Novus> youtubed i
[07:51] <Novus> r
[07:51] <alkaliv2> Novus, if you opena terminal and type
[07:51] <Novus> yes?
[07:51] <alkaliv2> lsmod it should give output and list nouveau
[07:52] <indistylo> haramkhoro
[07:52] <dr_willis> or if you grep the xorg logs it should have a 'Driver' line
[07:53] <alkaliv2> dr_willis, can I trouble you to help with Piet? I'm not terribly familiar with recovery mode in ubuntu
[07:53] <Novus> yea it;s not nvidea driver
[07:53] <dr_willis> alkaliv2:  neer heard of Piet.
[07:53] <dr_willis> never
[07:54] <alkaliv2> piet, explain again the issue you're having at login to dr_willis
[07:55] <piet> @alkaliv2: would it not be easier to try to reinstall? but i am afraid how to do it, since i want to install it overwriting the ubuntu partition, not creating a new one and thus loosing more space
[07:55] <dr_willis> you can always get the space back afterwards
[07:55] <piet> @dr_willis: good morning... hp pavilion laptop, win7 and ubuntu 12.04 dual boot... yesterday using the package manager willing to update from 12.04 to 12.10... now can't even start ubuntu anymore... in grub is asking win or ubuntu, choose ubuntu then screen goes black... however, with famous drum sound still going after a few secs
[07:56] <alkaliv2> Novus, are you on a 32-bit system?
[07:56] <dr_willis> piet:  you got an external monitor plugged in? just for fun. try the fn-whatever key on the laptop to toggle the monitors.. saw once where it was defaulting to an external display even tho none was installed
[07:56] <piet> @dr_willis: no matter which option, in the end screen always goes black (ubuntu normal mode, safe mode and then recovery 28 and 35,...)
[07:57] <piet> no, no ext. monitor
[07:57] <dr_willis> piet:  try the 'text' option and 'nomodeset' to see if those work. or at least get you to a console where you can login at
[07:57] <piet> text option also does not work
[07:57] <dr_willis> Ive definatly seen a weird laptop defaulted to the external port once.. happened to hit the fn-Monitorselection key  and it got it working
[07:58] <dr_willis> try 'text nomodeset' perhaps?
[07:58] <Novus> os32 systm 64
[07:58] <dr_willis> if you had ssh installed - id suggest sshing in from a differnt pc and see whats goin gon.
[07:58] <alkaliv2> Novus, check this link against your card http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise
[07:59] <piet> it seems a very strange option, the fn-key, but weird enough to try it out... i will reboot and see if it works, if so thank you, if not... see you in a few minutes
[07:59] <alkaliv2> thanks dr_willis
[07:59] <dr_willis> i definatly had a laptop that defaulted once to external.. but after using that fn-# key a few times.. it started defaulting to the internal.. guy may have hit it while in windows and it was rembered across reboots or somthing
[08:00] <zamba> where has the dhcp server gone to?
[08:00] <dr_willis> we heard the sounds.. blank sceen. ;)
[08:00] <alkaliv2> stranger things have happened for sure.
[08:00] <zamba> nevermind
[08:00] <alkaliv2> what does ubuntu recovery mount?  Just the root filesystem or any partition at all?
[08:01] <dr_willis> just the / as far as i know
[08:01] <dr_willis> you are supposed to do what you need from there
[08:01] <dr_willis> try it and see. ;)
[08:01] <alkaliv2> I thought so.  Which is why it was weird when he said it complained about his graphics card in recovery mode
[08:02] <dr_willis> recovery mode - dosent start up the X gui... so i dont see how
[08:02] <dr_willis> but i rarely use recovery mode. so there could be some options in there i dont recall
[08:02] <alkaliv2> I agree with you.  I was trying to get him to check the Xorg.0.log but I'm so rusty I don't know that I could have told him how to get it to me
[08:05] <Novus> i am goingto install 64bit version as the other was a tab laggy
[08:05] <Novus> hopfully this will solve that
[08:05] <Novus> besides
[08:05] <Novus> I think I narrowed it down anyway
[08:05] <Novus> of what the issue was
[08:06] <piet> @dr_willis... started up ubuntu in normal mode, it suddenly showed my normal login screen... typed the password... opened ubuntu... but only background screen... no icon or program bar or anything... the restarded, then back again, tried fn button, no use
[08:09] <ezio> where are the kernel headers installed to?
[08:10] <ikonia> /usr/src normally
[08:10] <dr_willis> piet:  if you saw the wallpaper then X was working
[08:11] <piet> x?
[08:11] <helmut_> hi
[08:11] <dr_willis> your video card/3d drivers are not beingseen/used so unity 3d/compiz is failing to start
[08:11] <helmut_> hi
[08:11] <dr_willis> thats a VERY differnt problem then a Blank/Black display at bootup
[08:11] <piet> but like i said, after the second startup, it was black again
[08:12] <dr_willis> you shouldnt have messed with the fn keys..
[08:12] <dr_willis> see if you can get back to the login screen
[08:12] <Novus> so did they actually start getting good software for ubuntu yet?
[08:12] <dr_willis> then you can try to  reinstall the drivers from the console
[08:12] <Novus> linux*
[08:13] <dr_willis> Novus:  care to be a bit less vague?
[08:13] <Novus> Well I am a 3d designer for video games
[08:13] <Novus> I port to android
[08:13] <Novus> i don't like windows 8
[08:13] <piet> how can i open the console using keyboard only? since i have no icons what so ever - if it shows again, since 99% it only shows black screen
[08:13] <Novus> what i need are 3d design programs
[08:14] <piet> and how to install drivers in console? what are the commands?
[08:14] <Novus> and audio fixes
[08:14] <dr_willis> piet:  the CONSOLES are what you get to via  the alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 keys
[08:14] <dr_willis> piet:  whats your video card?
[08:14] <piet> i think radeon
[08:14] <alkaliv2> Goodnight and good luck everyone
[08:14] <dr_willis> you really should determine exactly..  you can irc from the consoles also.
[08:14] <piet> i have specific video memory, that is what i know for sure, not shared
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Novus, plenty of 3d design programs are listed in the software center ...
[08:15] <piet> how can i check my specific card in win7
[08:15] <tabasko> does somebody know if there is tool like tree which would create image from directiry tree?
[08:15] <Novus> nomodeset <--- is what i used
[08:15] <tabasko> like jpgs,svg
[08:15] <dr_willis> piet:  see if you can et to the login screne, try alt-ctrl-f1 to see  if you can get to a console.. then  try installing some non unity desktop  to get a working system so you can then try to fix unity/drivers from an actual desktop.
[08:15] <dr_willis> piet:  this way you dont need to be changeing OS all the time
[08:16] <dr_willis> piet:  if you can get to a console.. and assuming networking is working 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' should install a nice old skool desktop you can select from the login screen. it should work with any drivers
[08:17] <OerHeks> tabasko,  why not send your filetree to txt:   tree > filename.txt
[08:17] <piet> i am a very inexperienced IT'er... what would be the difference between just reinstalling it or trying to solve this - for me - seemingly hard problem where i have to work in a console where i don't know any of the commmands?
[08:18] <dr_willis> piet:  if you want to reinstall then reinstall..
[08:18] <dr_willis> if you want to try to fix things.. then try to fix things
[08:18] <piet> do you think reinstall will resolve the problem? since i will do a reinstall, and not an update?
[08:18] <dr_willis> spending some time learning the shell basics will be worth doing
[08:18] <dr_willis> No idea.
[08:19] <Novus> one other thing
[08:19] <Novus> I got a usb dongle
[08:19] <Novus> did they every fix that thing where you had to connect via lan before wifi was activated?
[08:19] <Novus> or was that just for laptops?
[08:19] <dr_willis> hopefully they will look into that failsafe-x stuff again and have some fallback modes for these cases where the desktop semi-loads.. i see this happening in here easially 5+ times a week
[08:20] <piet> i'll give the repair a go...
[08:20] <dr_willis> Novus:  if you are refering to the need to get 'addational drivers'  it depends on your wireless chipset.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Novus, it was NEVER the case that you were required to lan before you could wifi.  some wifi works out of the box, some requires a little work.
[08:20] <Novus> drivers?
[08:20] <dr_willis> I have several cheap wifi dongles that work out of the box. :)
[08:21] <OerHeks> some wifi firmware cannot be included so no, cannot be fixed.
[08:21] <dr_willis> Wifi cards need drivers.. yes...
[08:21] <Novus> also
[08:21] <Novus> is it possible to remove grub during the install phase
[08:21] <Novus> II seen it last time it was installed by defualt
[08:21] <Mokilok> Hello, I asked a question earlier about having multiple users rdp to my ubuntu 12.10 workstation and you guys suggested LTSP as a solution. I wanted to clarify that I only need two users to log on to the workstation at once so a pxe boot thin client solution isn't really what I'm after.
[08:21] <dr_willis> theres a dialog/pulldown to not install grub
[08:22] <Mokilok> Does anyone have any idea's as to how two users can lot on to an ubuntu 12.10 workstation remotely and simultaneously?
[08:22] <Mokilok> log on to*
[08:23] <AcidRain> my remote desktop has appeared to have blocked me. this happened when i made too many failed connections from a remote location instead of LAN.
[08:23] <dr_willis> Mokilok:  several ways... freenx, ssh, vnc and a ssh tunnle
[08:23] <dr_willis> Mokilok:  xdmcp (old schoop)
[08:23] <Novus> that before or after the keyboard layout?
[08:24] <AcidRain> can anyone help me? also, i know the password is right. but it still wouldnt let me connect remotely outside of LAN
[08:24] <dr_willis> Novus:  no idea.
[08:24] <Novus> weird it asks where you want it installed
[08:25] <Novus> not if you want it
[08:25] <dr_willis> and i recall a pull down menu saying nowhere..
[08:25] <dr_willis> same menu item  i thought
[08:25] <AcidRain> my remote desktop has appeared to have blocked me. this happened when i made too many failed connections from a remote location instead of LAN. i am currently inside LAN, using VNC. i have connected before. but now it said connection refused
[08:28] <Mokilok> dr_willis: Do you know of any windows based applications that will allow me to remote desktop via SSH?
[08:28] <dr_willis> Mokilok:  freenx or vnc can do a remote desktop  or xming and ssh x forwarding.
[08:28] <Blkrdo> If i want to make a ubuntu minimal cd,which installs like a normal ubuntu cd,will simply installing ubiquity do?
[08:29] <tabasko> OerHeks, already done that. I was wondering if I could create nice graphics like that insted of ascii :)
[08:29] <tabasko> tought it is one nice looking ascii
[08:30] <AcidRain> in ubuntu, how do i get a list of drives, even if they havent been mounted
[08:32] <dr_willis> sudo blkid
[08:32] <dr_willis> is one way AcidRain
[08:32] <sgo11> hi, regarding bug opening, when I open a bug, how long should I wait until the first comment from developers? Do I need to assign the bug to somebody or should I wait for someone to assign the bug by themselves? thanks.
[08:32] <iceroot> AcidRain: sudo fdisk -l
[08:33] <iceroot> sgo11: depending on the bug, can you post the bugnumber?
[08:33] <lunitik> sgo11: If you want to triage your own bug, there shouldn't be any problem with that, but it is unnecessary. If you assign it incorrectly someone else will just correct it.
[08:33] <Trinsta> So my wireless connetion on Ubuntu 12.10 keeps dropping
[08:33] <Trinsta> if i disconnect and re it works fine for a minute but then drops out again
[08:34] <Blkrdo> Ubiquity in ubuntu mini remix! Will it install then?
[08:34] <Trinsta> what should i do to fix it?
[08:34] <sgo11> iceroot, it's about gnome-shell. I haven't got any answers within one month. :) #1115855
[08:34] <dr_willis> Blkrdo:  what?
[08:35] <iceroot> sgo11: you are using a PPA
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Change the login icon: I'm running Ubuntustudio 12.04.  Want to customize the default login icon
[08:35] <iceroot> sgo11: and if i get the bug correct, the bug is related to packages from a ppa
[08:36] <sgo11> ice799,  no. without PPA, the problem exists. The reason why I use PPA, it's because I am trying to fix the bug.
[08:36] <Blkrdo> Dr_willis: i am remastring a ubuntu mini remix so that i cn install it to hdd like a regular live cd! Jst by installing ubiquity do? Or do i ned to cnfigure smthng extra?
[08:36] <sgo11> ice799, sorry. the wrong person.
[08:36] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:37] <piet> @dr_willis... no luck... no login screen, several tries, and every time i tried alt-ctrl-f1, but always nothing after hearing the ubuntu opening sound
[08:37] <sgo11> iceroot, the reason why I use the ppa, it's because I am trying to fix the bug by that ppa. The problem exists since the fresh installation.
[08:37] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[08:37] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:37] <dr_willis> piet:  but you said it worked once? thats... odd..
[08:37] <redcat> hi everybody
[08:37] <ben1253> does anybody know IRC for Backtrack??
[08:38] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|ben1253,
[08:38] <dr_willis> ben1253:  i think a look on thebacktrack web site would tell you that info also. ;)
[08:38] <piet> it didn't really work, it just showed the login screen and after entering my password, i got the background picture but with no icon
[08:39] <ben1253> dr_willis: i tried,but i didn't find anything.
[08:39] <dr_willis> piet:  yes.. IF you can get to the login screen then the system is working.. its a matter of going to the console then and installing an alternative desktop
[08:39] <dr_willis> piet:  but you cant even get to the login screen any more?
[08:39] <Novus> anyone use nettalk?
[08:39] <piet> no, since i tried several times, and it does not come back anymore
[08:40] <iceroot> sgo11: ah ok, sorry then i got it wrong
[08:40] <dr_willis> this is when having a spare pc to ssh in from is worth big money.. or even an android phone
[08:42] <sgo11> iceroot, ^_^ I just don't know why nobody replies me in that bug. that was the first time I opened a bug. It stops me opening another one since I feel it's useless to open a bug if nobody cares.
[08:44] <iceroot> sgo11: i am always joining #ubuntu-bugs and ask there if someone can have a look, normally you will get "we need more information", "can you test xy and post the result on the bug" and so on
[08:44] <iceroot> sgo11: but its always the best way to open a bug when you are facing a bug
[08:45] <dr_willis> you got X # of  people posting bugs... and only X/10000 who can work on them.. ;)
[08:45] <Fuzzles>  would ubuntu run on a 1gb netbook?
[08:45] <dr_willis> Fuzzles:  it runs on mine.
[08:45] <dr_willis> Fuzzles:  i tend to use Lubuntu on netbooks.
[08:45] <sgo11> iceroot, thanks for telling me that channel. I will try it. :)
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, yes, but you'd probably enjoy xubuntu or lubuntu even more ...
[08:46] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, cfhowlett thanks its for my girlfriend she cant stand windows starter :P
[08:48] <dr_willis> id definatly try lubuntu then
[08:49] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, the problem is shes needs more features which i know lubuntu dont work as a full computer really
[08:51] <dr_willis> features such as?
[08:51] <AcidRain> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[08:51] <AcidRain> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[08:51] <AcidRain> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:51] <AcidRain> anybody else get this?
[08:52] <dr_willis> your ppa is down, o dosent have  support for your release
[08:52] <AcidRain> dr_willis, is it ok if i remove this ppa?
[08:52] <dr_willis> AcidRain:  if you have no idea what its for.. why do you have it.
[08:52] <AcidRain> dr_willis, it looks to me it the main one
[08:52] <dr_willis>  slicer/ppa  i dont think is a main one...
[08:53] <OerHeks> AcidRain, no precise candidate >> https://launchpad.net/~slicer/+archive/ppa
[08:53] <dward> so Buran is the system is going to start 2 seconds faster? or 2 times faster?
[08:53] <Bergcube> Ubuntu 12.10.  When I open some (but not all) MKV files in Totem nothing happens. Totem just stands at 0 seconds, idling. I've been googling, but hasn't come any closer to a solution. I know I could probably get it playing in VLC or some other player, but I'd prefer to fix Totem. Any tips?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Bergcube, have you installed mkv codecs?
[08:54] <Bergcube> cfhowlett ~ Not sure to be honest.  Do you happen to know the package name?  I can check it right away.
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Bergcube, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:55] <histo> !codecs | Bergcube
[08:55] <Bergcube> cfhowlett, Yeah, I did that.
[08:55] <F3Speech> When I run "rm -vrf <folderorfiles> from a mounted xfs filesystem nothing happens, no errors or no deletions. Anyone any ideas why? I can see the same folder via a samba share and can rightclick delete from windows removing the folder/file easily.
[08:55] <Novus> how do in stall a driver in terminal?
[08:56] <Novus> make -- make install?
[08:57] <dr_willis> Novus:  what driver
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !paste > me
[08:57] <Novus> rtl8187
[08:57] <dr_willis> Novus:  that a wireless card or what?
[08:57] <Matt__> Hi
[08:57] <Novus> yeas
[08:58] <Novus> my main computer is router lan lin connected to that
[08:58] <Novus> I have a wifi card that putw out wireless sig
[08:58] <dr_willis> for most wifi cards if the drivers are not included - you use the addational-drivers tool to  download/install the needed drivers
[08:58] <Novus> I am going to connect that to 2nd desktop via wireless
[08:58] <Novus> i have the driver
[08:59] <dward> that is included in compat-drivers
[08:59] <dr_willis> what do you have EXCATLY?
[08:59] <dr_willis> the drivers are most likely in the repos.
[08:59] <dward> rtl8187 is included in compat-wireless
[08:59] <Novus> I cannot get to repos until I connect to internet
[09:00] <dward> *compat-drivers i mean
[09:00] <dr_willis> Novus:  and you cant compile source code without the extra pacjages either.
[09:00] <dward> compat-drivers is included in the standard ubuntu install
[09:00] <dr_willis> so his card should just work. ;)
[09:00] <dward> yep
[09:01] <histo> !offline
[09:02] <Novus> wow
[09:02] <Novus> I been away from ubuntu and griping about it for far to long
[09:02] <Novus> they fixed every glitch (aside from nvidia) I have had so far
[09:03] <dr_willis> Think how good it would be if all the HW makers provided better support..
[09:03] <dr_willis> or stopped having annoying legal limitations on their junk
[09:03] <the_dark_knight> Hi, how do I check if my system is 32bit or 64bit?
[09:03] <llutz> the_dark_knight: uname -m
[09:04] <kluejay> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu with an encrypted home folder in a separate /home partition. Since I reset the EFI store on the device I can no longer boot Ubuntu. I want to re install. How can I make a fresh installation use my existing encrypted home folder?
[09:07] <Novus> ok got internet
[09:08] <kluejay> Anyone?
[09:09] <dr_willis> I never use encrypted stuff.. so i got nothing...
[09:09] <iceroot> kluejay: tell the installer (partition part) to use sdXY as home without reformating it
[09:09] <cfhowlett> How do I change the login icon in Ubuntustudio 12.04  http://imagebin.org/249823
[09:09] <Novus> sudo apt-get install nvidia current?
[09:09] <kluejay> iceroot: Yes I know but the home folder is encrypted
[09:10] <markveidemanis> Hi
[09:10] <markveidemanis> how do i switch windows in ubuntu?
[09:10] <iceroot> kluejay: the installer is asking you if you want to encrypt /home, say "yes" and then tell the installer to use the existing /home partition
[09:10] <histo> markveidemanis: alt tab
[09:10] <markveidemanis> thanks
[09:10] <iceroot> kluejay: the first part is pulling the correct packages
[09:10] <histo> markveidemanis: if you hold the windows key down for a few seconds it will pop up keybaord shortcuts
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: the second part is mounting /home/.username to /home/username
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: /home/michael/.Private    221G    128G   81G   62% /home/michael
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: there is still /home/username and that needs to be used
[09:11] <kluejay> iceroot: Yes but will it work if the username folder is already encrypted?
[09:11] <kluejay> by a previous installation
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: as i said 2 times already, yes :)
[09:12] <kluejay> iceroot: Are you sure on that, because I really don't want to lose data.
[09:12] <dr_willis> iceroot:  final answer? would you like ot make a call?> ;)
[09:12] <iceroot> kluejay: its not an encryption partition, its an encrpyted directory so there is no difference for the installer/partition part
[09:12] <dr_willis> You should of allready had stuff backed up...
[09:12] <iceroot> kluejay: if you dont want to lose data you will use your backup
[09:13] <iceroot> dr_willis: i call you :)
[09:13] <Novus> is nvidia drivers in repos?
[09:14] <sgo11> in text.plymouth, it has black= white= brown= blue=, what are they? how can I change the background color to a specific one? thanks.
[09:14] <dr_willis> Line is busy
[09:14] <dr_willis> !info nvidia-current
[09:14] <dr_willis> Novus:  yes. normally installed via the addational-drivers tool/tab
[09:14] <iceroot> kluejay: if you dont trust me, use /home on / on the installation part and after the system is installed edit /etc/fstab to use your real home-partition, install the cryptsetup tools and mount your original home partition
[09:15] <Novus> well that's good
[09:15] <Novus> it's giving me an error fro su password
[09:15] <kluejay> iceroot: I will try your method, so I assume I have to use the same username and password.
[09:15] <sgo11> Novus, yeah, nvidia driver is in repo. you'd better install it through command line. it has some problems in ubuntu 12.10. you may need to install additional kernel headers manually if your nvidia driver is not working properly.
[09:16] <dr_willis> Novus:  what are you doing exactly?
[09:16] <iceroot> kluejay: yes
[09:16] <iceroot> !sudo | Novus
[09:16] <Novus> atm just trying to install drivers
[09:16] <iceroot> Novus: dont use "su" because there is no root-account enabled by default
[09:16] <dr_willis> Novus:  and HOW.. exactly.
[09:16] <kluejay> iceroot: I thought maybe the encrypted directory relied on local certificated or something along with the password for decryption
[09:16] <Novus> but it's been eons since I used terminal
[09:16] <Novus> through terminal - repos
[09:16] <Novus> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:17] <Novus> I thought that's what it was
[09:17] <dr_willis> That normally does it for me.
[09:17] <iceroot> kluejay: no, the encrypted directory is protected with a passphrase/key, that key will be opened with your password and then the encrypted directory is mounted into /home/username like on this example /home/michael/.Private    230751380 134149072   84880792   62% /home/michael
[09:18] <Novus> how do I check my SU password?
[09:18] <dr_willis> there is no 'su' password
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: there is no "su" password
[09:18] <dr_willis> you use your users password. to SUDO
[09:18] <Novus> right
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: use "sudo" and not "su"
[09:18] <Novus> for some reason now that isn't working
[09:18] <indistylo> gandu
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: and the sudo-password is your user-password
[09:19] <Novus> i put log in automaticall
[09:19] <dr_willis> Novus:  dosent matter.. your user still has a password
[09:19] <iceroot> Novus: so your real question is "i forgot my userpassword,how to restore it"?
[09:19] <Novus> sure
[09:20] <indistylo> +i
[09:20] <dr_willis> try going to the console and logging in.. see if you can login in right
[09:20] <Novus> brb
[09:24] <histo> !passwd | Novus
[09:25] <dr_willis> #1 reason to disable autologin -- so you rember your password... ;)
[09:25] <histo> !passwords | Novus
[09:26] <raj> how do I get my local IP address?
[09:26] <redcat> hi everybody
[09:26] <dr_willis> ifconfig   shows it raj
[09:26] <raj> thank you
[09:26] <raj> inet addr?
[09:27] <Tex_Nick> 2 things that people forget ...  passwords & backups
[09:28] <dr_willis> backup your passwords...
[09:28] <dr_willis> and password protect it!
[09:28] <Tex_Nick> LOL ;-)
[09:28] <dr_willis> Then write it down on a post-it note.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> and post in the left hand screen corner
[09:28] <raj> how do I get the current gateway?
[09:29] <llutz> raj: route -n
[09:29] <Tex_Nick> \roflmao
[09:29] <raj> thank you
[09:29] <Gonzo89> Hi i have a problem with converting a file into utf-8 (Ubuntu 6). "file -i filename.php" returns "filename.php: text/x-c; charset=us-ascii". (Why on earth text/x-c don't know) I tried "iconv -f US-ASCII -t UTF-8 filename.php > newfilename.php" and "file -i newfilename.php" still return charset=us-ascii. Thanks for any help/hint
[09:29] <redcat> !list
[09:29] <llutz> raj: or "ip n s"
[09:32] <Novus> test
[09:32] <Novus> ok I just lost compiz
[09:32] <Novus> lol
[09:33] <dr_willis> look under the couch
[09:34] <Novus> yea right
[09:35] <Novus> on a good note,.. comp was workign very fast
[09:36] <r0ugenode> hi im having trouble installing ubuntu
[09:36] <sgo11> Gonzo89, how many files are you going to convert? if not many, why don't you just create a new text file, and then copy the old file contents to the new file and then save. it will be utf-8 encoding by default.
[09:36] <Novus> brb again
[09:37] <hector__> hi everyone :)
[09:38] <Gonzo89> sgo11: Many files but i get a hint maybe it works now
[09:38] <hector__> how can you repair bad sectors of a removed notebook hard drive if the only other computer you have is a netbook?
[09:39] <dr_willis> i have a universial USB adaptor lets me plug in any style to it.
[09:39] <dr_willis> some netbooks also can take normal notebook sided hes
[09:39] <dr_willis> sized
[09:40] <sgo11> Gonzo89, I just tried your iconv way. it works fine.
[09:40] <dr_willis> or use a live -usb on the actual ntebook with the notebook hd in it..
[09:40] <r0ugenode> can you help restore my raspberry pi network
[09:40] <admin0> hi .. when I create a backport .. which file I need to change, so that the distro is updated to which I am making the backport
[09:40] <r0ugenode> ??
[09:40] <hetal> I'm looking at the output of lspci, and I see the following output: 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02).  Does this mean that the laptop HDD is an IDE drive?
[09:40] <r0ugenode> my raspberry pi with ubuntu installed
[09:40] <admin0> i am making a backport from quantal to precise ..  which file do I edit to say its for precise and not quantal
[09:40] <dr_willis> r0ugenode:  Err.. im not aware of a ubuntu for the raspberry pi.
[09:41] <dr_willis> Unles theres been some ports in the last month or 2
[09:41] <molensis> how can i get the glmatrix working?
[09:41] <sgo11> Gonzo89, "iconv -f <old_encoding> -t <new_encoding> old.txt > new.txt". it works very well. I never know this command. hehe. very useful.
[09:41] <hector__> dr willis, for live usb on netbook, I need first to encase the notebook HDD, correct?
[09:42] <llutz> hetal: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX      to find out what hdd you have exactly, lspci just shows the controller
[09:42] <dr_willis> hector__:  you need an enclosuer for the HD/adaptor..
[09:42] <dr_willis> hector__:  or use a live usb on the original laptop with the hd in it.
[09:42] <pritesh> is it possible i can install Ubuntu with xfce in 800 MB ??
[09:42] <hector__> I never enclosed a removed HDD, is it simple to do?
[09:43] <dr_willis> hector__:  plug in 2 wires..
[09:43] <fidel> pritesh: 800mb space for the entire install?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> pritesh, best to try xubuntu or lubuntu for that little space
[09:43] <pritesh> fidel yes
[09:43] <hetal> llutz: Thanks a ton. The only output there mentioning anything about ATA is: Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 1:  ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6,7. I'm guessing I have SATA1 then?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !mini|pritesh,
[09:44] <hector__> found a yt video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atgG5dOsp-w
[09:44] <pritesh> cfhowlett, i started with Minimal cd but when it starts installing it crossed size
[09:44] <dr_willis> i have a universial adaptor for trouble shooting.. it can ide/mini-ide/sata ;)
[09:45] <pritesh> ubottu, only the media cd size is low but after installation it crossed 1 GB
[09:45] <Ben64> dr_willis: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002 ?
[09:45] <dr_willis> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=767474&is=REG&A=details&Q=
[09:45] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:45] <dr_willis> handy thing to have in the pc toolbox.
[09:45] <Ben64> oh even better
[09:45] <Ben64> mine is 2.0 only. the extra speed would be nice
[09:46] <dr_willis> yep  - mine is older 2.0  a 3 would be better
[09:48] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis & cfhowlett : regarding the above thread on passwords & backups ... you guys mind if i post that on the www.bash.org ( quote database home ) that's a great topic for the QDB ?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, I see no objection ...
[09:50] <molensis> where can i find the screensavers in gnome in ubuntu filesystem?
[09:51] <raj> why doesn't ubuntu use mesa?
[09:52] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  ok thanks ... with dr_willis's approval i'll post it ... was a response from the two of you ;-)
[09:52] <Tex_Nick> *great response
[09:52] <tokern3> how delet accounts in freenode
[09:53] <lunitik> tokern3, Did you actually go through the process of registering the account?
[09:54] <dr_willis> tokern3:  ask in #freenode
[09:54] <lunitik> tokern3, If you did not, there is nothing to do, the account will not be remembered.
[09:56] <raj> why doesn't ubuntu use mesa?
[09:57] <lunitik> raj, It does
[09:58] <lunitik> raj, dpkg -l | grep mesa  <-- lists the packages pertaining to mesa... note the ii means it is installed
[09:59] <lunitik> raj, Even when Ubuntu moves to Mir, it is likely mesa will continue to be used, it is essentially the DirectX of Linux
[09:59] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How do I get the list of python modules I have installed using either easy_install / pip?
[10:00] <lunitik> the_dark_knight, no idea, but you can do dpkg -l | grep python
[10:00] <lunitik> I dunno why you'd want third party tools for something so basic
[10:01] <dr_willis> python and perl both have their own special repo thanggies i recall. ;) never used the feature.
[10:01] <dr_willis> ruby has a similer thing also i recall
[10:02] <Kartagis> is there a useful document for building html5-validator on top of w3c-validator on ubuntu?
[10:03] <Novus> anyone know how to get a command line with a bad graphic drive in use? lol
[10:03] <dr_willis> use the console
[10:03] <ikonia> Novus: boot into vesa xorg driver
[10:03] <fidel> Novus: ctrl+alt+1-6 ?
[10:04] <dr_willis> !text
[10:04] <Novus> it's trying to start in low graphic mod
[10:04] <hector__> universal drive adapter seems to be a handy tool, thank you dr.
[10:04] <fidel> as optional idea: is ssh running on that machine?
[10:05] <hector__> is it applicable on a non-enclosed HDD?
[10:05] <dr_willis> err..it  is what you plug the hd into ...
[10:05] <dr_willis> a temp fix for accessing the hd.
[10:05] <dr_willis> so the only thing it would be used for would be a hd thats not allready in an enclosuer
[10:09] <raj> thanks lunitik
[10:09] <raj> :)
[10:09] <ikonia> raj: are you using arch or ubuntu ?
[10:11] <Novus> grr
[10:11] <dr_willis> woof?
[10:11] <Novus> there was a tuy on nvidia DRIVERS
[10:11] <Novus> this wasn't the correct one
[10:12] <Novus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioMeSCoyYng
[10:12] <dr_willis> all i normally do is install the nvidia-current package. or run the addational-drivers tool.. it can depend on your exact chipset
[10:12] <Novus> now I can't get into software sources to change the thing
[10:12] <dr_willis> and hopefully you are not using that dual-gpu optimus stuff
[10:12] <Novus> no,.. a 7300 gs
[10:12] <Novus> lol
[10:13] <dr_willis> If its a very old card  - it might not be supported by the nvidia drivers any more.
[10:13] <dr_willis> jockey-text or the jockey-gtk tool should give info. (on 12.04)
[10:13] <Novus> well it's weird
[10:13] <Novus> it seems like it works
[10:13] <Novus> but the screen size shoot up huge
[10:13] <Novus> or it don't show the menues
[10:14] <dr_willis> you mean its LOW res? or High res?
[10:14] <Novus> it's hi res with no menus
[10:14] <dr_willis> run the nvidia-settings tool to select the res you want to use.
[10:14] <dr_willis> you mean its Just the desktop wallpaper and nothing else?
[10:14] <Novus> yup
[10:14] <Novus> and a few files
[10:15] <dr_willis> what files?
[10:15] <dr_willis> details help.....
[10:15] <Novus> just some crap I had on the desktop
[10:15] <dr_willis> see if the guest user works.
[10:16] <Novus> what is the nvidia tools?
[10:16] <dr_willis> the nvidia drivers come with the 'nvidia-setting' tools to configure the nvidia stuff
[10:17] <raj> ikonia, yes and arch
[10:18] <Novus> how can i switch display back to that othe rdefaultdriver in command prompt?
[10:18] <lunitik> dr_willis, They got rid of jockey, it is in Software Center's Software Sources now.
[10:18] <wero> #ubuntu mexico
[10:18] <dr_willis> lunitik:  theres still jocky-text
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !es|wero
[10:19] <you-tee-f> is ubuntu certified enterily ?'POSIX conform' ?
[10:20] <lunitik> Novus, you can blacklist the module you do not want to use and reboot... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624 for some details on that
[10:20] <lunitik> you-tee-f, well, linux is, yes...
[10:21] <lunitik> you-tee-f, Ubuntu is the total operating that includes a kernel called linux, which is posix conformant.
[10:21] <jpds> lunitik: Not according to Wikipedia.
[10:21] <lunitik> jpds, What does Wikipedia disagree on?
[10:22] <jpds> lunitik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#cite_ref-61
[10:22] <Novus> it be quicker to just reinstall the systme
[10:22] <Novus> lol
[10:22] <saintpouf> yeah
[10:23] <jpds> saintpouf: Quite.
[10:23] <saintpouf> p
[10:23] <lunitik> jpds, It doesn't say it doesn't comply, it says only one distro has been certified...
[10:24] <you-tee-f> yes
[10:24] <lunitik> jpds, Just means no one else has bothered to pay to be certified, but that one has been, it's not like that project particularly targeted certification so everyone is certified.
[10:24] <lunitik> Well, effectively.
[10:24] <Novus> http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7200.html
[10:24] <Novus> need driver for that
[10:25] <dr_willis> Novus:  does the addational-drivers tool suggest a driver for your card?
[10:25] <jpds> lunitik: Yeah, but his question was for certification. ;-)
[10:25] <lunitik> jpds, No, he has asked if Linux complies.
[10:25] <Novus> the system was borked
[10:25] <jpds> lunitik: "is ubuntu certified enterily ?"
[10:26] <Novus> I had to reinstall
[10:26] <lunitik> jpds, Ahh, you are correct, my apologies.
[10:26] <Novus> where is additional drivers too? software sources?
[10:26] <lunitik> Novus, yes
[10:27] <you-tee-f> that was my bad, actually i was just meaning if ubuntu just complies to POSIX
[10:27] <you-tee-f> guess i've had my answer whatesoever
[10:28] <you-tee-f> thank
[10:28] <Novus> holy fuck
[10:28] <Novus> North korea is endingthe armisis
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !language|Novus,
[10:28] <Novus> here we go!
[10:29] <Citillara> Hello, just a little question, putting a script inside /etc/rc0.d makes it run during the shutdown phase of a reboot or during its reboot phase ?
[10:29] <Novus> sorry
[10:29] <Novus> but WOW
[10:29] <DJones> Novus: Its not really an Ubuntu topic though
[10:29] <Novus> right, but it's news,.. anyway
[10:30] <DJones> Novus: See /topic - This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not general news issues
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Novus, best to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic then
[10:30] <lunitik> Novus, there is #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about it, someone might be interested
[10:31] <dr_willis> 12.10 has the addational drivers under a tab of the 'software-sources' tool.. or you can use jockey-text i hear
[10:32] <dr_willis> 12.04 has jockey-gtk you can run
[10:32] <Novus> still reloading the OS,.. > China is actually on our side
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ot|Novus,
[10:32] <dr_willis> reloading? MS training has kicked in it seems...
[10:33] <Guest__> Test
[10:33] <Novus> LOL
[10:33] <Novus> I couldn't get the graphics fixed in command line this is faster
[10:34] <dr_willis> we mentioned the jockey-text tool several times
[10:35] <Drenriza> Is their a separate channel for discussing scripting / programming under Ubuntu? Or is this used for such?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Drenriza, perhaps in #ubuntu-dev
[10:35] <dr_willis> scripting programing - is a very big and vague topic. ;)
[10:35] <lunitik> Drenriza, each language will have its own channel
[10:35] <dr_willis> what language?
[10:35] <Novus> you mean purgingthe drivers?
[10:35] <Novus> I tried that
[10:35] <Drenriza> dr_willis bash for example.
[10:35] <lunitik> Drenriza, #bash
[10:35] <dr_willis> theres 100000s of bash scripting guides and bookd out there
[10:36] <dr_willis> !abs
[10:37] <lunitik> Drenriza, Such things won't be particular to Ubuntu, and certainly don't pertain to end-user support so this channel isn't appropriate - not least because looking at code when you join a Linux channel will probably scare new users away.
[10:38] <blabla> hello.  I wanted to use multiple monitors so I installed the latest stable proprietary AMD driver. Now after login my screens are stcuk black and nothing happens. Care to help please ?
[10:38] <Drenriza> dr_willis / ubottu ty. But it was more because i had a specific question that i could not really find a answer to. But maybe i find a apprioate channel somewhere.
[10:38] <jpds> Drenriza: There's #ubuntu-devl
[10:38] <dr_willis> or just ask the specific question here and see..
[10:38] <jpds> Drenriza: There's #ubuntu-devel*
[10:39] <Novus> would this be the default driver?
[10:39] <Novus> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.84-driver.html
[10:39] <Novus> looks like it to me
[10:39] <dr_willis> the default may not be the latest.
[10:39] <Novus> released march 4th
[10:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:40] <dr_willis> the default may not be the latest....
[10:40] <Novus> morning
[10:40] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:40] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[10:41] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[10:42] <Novus> ok it's back booting
[10:43] <Novus> so where is this tool you mentioned?
[10:44] <dr_willis> and your relase of ubuntu is which one?
[10:44] <Novus> 12.10
[10:45] <dr_willis> under 'software & updates' last tab
[10:45] <AndJusticeForAll> !backports
[10:45] <Novus> nothing is there
[10:45] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:46] <dr_willis> its possible your card is no longer supported by the nvidia drivers then.
[10:46] <dr_willis> if its an old card
[10:47] <dr_willis> latest in the repo here is 310 it seems
[10:47] <Novus> can I ask a question? I mention several times that I have drivers NOT in the repos,.. yet it seems that I am havign difficulty getting an answer as to how to install them. Why is that?
[10:47] <dr_willis> if the current drivers do not support your card.. and its an older card.. the support has been dropped for the card from the drivers.. You use the gpl open sourced drivers which are installed by default
[10:47] <WakWak> Novus: Drivers are provided by those who makes them "Nvidia+latest+ubuntu" on google should help if u use nvidia. etc
[10:48] <dr_willis> theres a list somewher eof what drivers support what cards.
[10:48] <Novus> I got the driver,.. I don't need a list
[10:48] <Guest86018> Howdy
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Novus, for .deb files, sudo dpgk -i foo.deb
[10:49] <dr_willis> does the driver actually support your card is the question.. and what do you 'got' exactly?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> *dpkg*
[10:49] <jatak> Does anyone here use xubuntu?
[10:49] <jatak> Or xfce?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> jatak, yes
[10:49] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:49] <jatak> Do you know if there's some kind of menu replacement that has a search function?
[10:49] <jatak> Kinda like the mintmenu in mate
[10:49] <tokern3> hi
[10:50] <Novus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioMeSCoyYng
[10:50] <cfhowlett> jatak, sorry, I've no idea.
[10:50] <Novus> when I did that earlyer
[10:50] <Novus> it sorta worked
[10:50] <cfhowlett> tokern3, greetings
[10:50] <Novus> but I lost unity and top bar
[10:52] <onats> hi all. when setting up juju /maas, can i do with just one machine, or i need at least two?
[10:54] <blabla> uninstalled all ATI drivers, reconfigured x server ... still have black screen after login
[10:55] <WakWak> join /#ubuntu-dk
[10:56] <cfhowlett> WakWak, try this:   /join #ubuntu-dk
[10:56] <lunitik> onats, MAAS isn't really useful with only one machine... juju can be used with lxc on your machine though
[10:56] <WakWak> cfhowlett: got it. More interested in getting an answer on this one
[10:56] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:57] <lunitik> onats, You probably want to discuss that with #ubuntu-server though
[10:57] <dr_willis> WakWak:  DST just took effect.. is it off by an hour?
[10:57] <WakWak> dr_willis: yes exactly
[10:58] <dr_willis> theres a DST setting in some cofnig file i imagine
[10:58] <dr_willis> or your timezone setting
[10:58] <WakWak> dr_willis: but host said that he setup the node about 24 hours ago. new node. set it to UTC
[10:58] <WakWak> reconfiguring tzdata to another timezone doesnt matter. UTC is UTC no matter what the local timezone is set to
[10:58] <lunitik> onats, MAAS means "Metal as a Service", it is really for mass installations on a server farm
[11:04] <Kartagis> is there a useful document for building html5-validator on top of w3c-validator on ubuntu?
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> #ubuntu-uk
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> mispost ^
[11:06] <thierry_> bonjour
[11:09] <hector__> thank you dr., have a good day/night! :)
[11:09] <onats> lunitik: ok. thanks for that. basically Im looking for an alternative to what I'm doing right now. Everytime I deploy a new VM i clone a virtual box machine, and then set it up again. do you have suggestions? I only have one host at the moment
[11:10] <lunitik> onats, I would look into ubuntu-vm-builder and use lxc because it is more lightweight and does what you need to test juju... I would also look at explicitely what Dell installed on the Sputnik machines because that workflow is designed for what you want.
[11:11] <lunitik> onats, I would certainly stop using VirtualBox though, you don't really need that level of virtualization
[11:13] <Guest15877> hi
[11:13] <Guest15877> 9697701930
[11:13] <onats> lunitik:  what do you mean i don't need that level of virtualization/
[11:14] <lunitik> onats, lxc is a lot lighter, linux on linux doesn't require the entire machine be virtualized
[11:15] <onats> lunitik: do i get multiple hosts, with different ports?
[11:15] <onats> on lxc?
[11:15] <lunitik> onats, lxc is more like jails in the BSD world, or Zones in the solaris world if you are familiar with those...
[11:15] <onats> not familiar...
[11:15] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[11:15] <lunitik> onats, Look into it, it is much nicer for your usecase  :)
[11:15] <onats> lunitik: ok will do that. lxc + juju?
[11:16] <inc0> hi, I have problem with apt, dependency seems to be broken and I can't do anythin about that
[11:16] <lunitik> onats, yes... and vm-builder - I think it automates building a vm, but I haven't actually tried it myself.
[11:16] <inc0> http://paste.org/62388 here is output of everything I try to do with apt
[11:16] <onats> got it. thanks lunitik!
[11:16] <lunitik> onats, via package "ubuntu-vm-builder"
[11:17] <lunitik> onats, You're welcome, good luck  :)
[11:17] <jrib> inc0: have you enabled unofficial repositories, repositories not meant for your ubuntu version, or installed packages manually?
[11:18] <inc0> jrib, previously yes, I guess, now I'd like to fix these
[11:18] <jrib> inc0: be more specific as to what you did
[11:19] <inc0> jrib, hard to tell actually, I don't know when exactly this broke, hold on I'll show you my sources.list
[11:20] <inc0> http://paste.org/62389 this is how it looks now
[11:23] <jrib> inc0: why do you say "now"?  How did it look before (what was your last change)?  Also, run « sudo apt-get update » and try again.  If error is identical, pastebin output of « apt-cache policy libkdecore5 libkdeui4 libsolid4 libkio5 ».  If error changes, pastebin new error
[11:26] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[11:26] <XATRIX> Hi guys, any ideas ? http://fpaste.org/z7eA/ http://fpaste.org/UpzW/ ?
[11:27] <inc0> here is output of apt-cache http://paste.org/62390 and I've untagged any source list which was not official in ubuntu software center
[11:27] <dr_willis> WakWak:  disable the time sync service. and set the time manually
[11:27] <WakWak> dr_Willis: how ?
[11:27] <jrib> inc0: what did you untag?  Be specific
[11:27] <WakWak> got ntp installed not ntpupdate
[11:29] <inc0> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu http://deb.opera.com/opera/ these
[11:29] <inc0> however error occured with these on too
[11:30] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libkio5
[11:32] <_cronus_> XATRIX, try executing service as root
[11:32] <inc0> http://paste.org/62391
[11:33] <XATRIX> oh O_O
[11:33] <raptor> ynter51
[11:33] <praka> ,'-',
[11:33] <raptor> easyrider
[11:33] <mano> hi
[11:33] <praka> hello
[11:34] <XATRIX> _cronus_: http://fpaste.org/XG4w/
[11:34] <jrib> inc0: apt-cache policy libkparts4
[11:34] <XATRIX> Seems like it doesn't want to create sylinks for this service
[11:34] <mano> may i get some help plz
[11:34] <jrib> !ask | mano
[11:34] <praka> how can I start ubuntu in terminal mode
[11:34] <jrib> praka: why?
[11:34] <mano> i have problem with qJACK
[11:35] <_cronus_> XATRIX, i think upstart jobs dont use symlinks.
[11:35] <XATRIX> Ok, but can you please check this log
[11:35] <XATRIX> http://fpaste.org/wFUe/
[11:36] <XATRIX> I think the service crashes or what is it ?
[11:36] <praka> to avoid games
[11:36] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62392
[11:36] <jrib> !text | praka
[11:37] <Novus> so I am down to the onboard GPU
[11:37] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4
[11:37] <Novus> still not getting the thing working right
[11:37] <praka> thank you very much
[11:38] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62394
[11:39] <jrib> inc0: apt-cache policy libktexteditor4
[11:39] <_cronus_> XATRIX, maybe it is disabled at /etc/default/irqbalance
[11:39] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62395
[11:40] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4 libtexteditor4
[11:40] <XATRIX> #Should irqbalance be enabled?ENABLED="1" #Balance the IRQs only once? ONESHOT="0"
[11:40] <inc0> jrib, E: Unable to locate package libtexteditor4
[11:40] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4 libktexteditor4
[11:41] <_cronus_> XATRIX, can u run it from the command line?
[11:41] <XATRIX> _cronus_: service ipqbalance start ?
[11:42] <_cronus_> XATRIX, just sudo irqbalance
[11:42] <XATRIX> yep
[11:42] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62396
[11:42] <Novus> anyone else have any ideas?
[11:42] <XATRIX> But it exits after a while
[11:42] <jrib> !helpme | Novus
[11:42] <Novus> installing Nvidia drivers
[11:43] <_cronus_> XATRIX, does it go to the background or does it exit?
[11:43] <jrib> inc0: what's happening when you do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[11:44] <Novus> !tool | jrib
[11:44] <XATRIX> _cronus_: it goes to background, i can see it in a process list, but it dissappears in 30 sec
[11:44] <XATRIX> Without any warrning, errors
[11:44] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62397
[11:44] <_cronus_> XATRIX, try the --debug option
[11:44] <ikonia> Novus: what did you mean by !tool
[11:45] <Novus> looking for pm tools
[11:45] <jrib> Novus: most people probably have no idea what your issue is.  So saying "anyone else have any idea" isn't very productive.  Just repeat your question after about 10 minutes or so if no one has helped you by then
[11:45] <XATRIX> _cronus_: http://fpaste.org/JgdG/
[11:45] <ikonia> Novus: did you try the vesa driver as I said ?
[11:45] <ikonia> Novus: what are "pm tools"
[11:45] <Novus> private messege
[11:46] <Novus> where would I get that driver?
[11:46] <ikonia> Novus: I told you where/how to set it
[11:46] <Novus> i['ve tried Xorg ones and non of those work
[11:46] <ikonia> Novus: "xorg ones"....
[11:47] <ikonia> Novus: did you try the vesa driver as I asked you to ?
[11:47] <Novus> no,. that messege prolly got lost when I was switching network connections
[11:47] <ikonia> it didn't, as you said "ok"
[11:47] <ikonia> and "I'll get back to you"
[11:47] <Novus> lets try it again i suppose
[11:48] <Novus> where woudl I get thet driver then?
[11:48] <ikonia> try it again ?
[11:48] <ikonia> you've not tried it yet
[11:48] <_cronus_> XATRIX, maybe your machine is not supported as the first line says
[11:48] <ikonia> Novus: you need to set the driver type to "vesa" in the xorg.conf
[11:48] <ikonia> Novus: the driver is part of xorg's default install
[11:48] <jrib> inc0: is this a kubuntu system?
[11:48] <inc0> jrib, no, but one time I've tried to install kdevelop
[11:49] <inc0> that seems to mess things up
[11:49] <Novus> ok how do I edit the config of that then?
[11:49] <XATRIX> _cronus_: Not sure, it's ACER Aspire One, Intel Atom N455 , should be NUMA capable
[11:49] <ikonia> Novus: open the xorg.conf in a text file, find the driver line and set it to Vesa
[11:49] <jrib> inc0: then probably the easiest solution would be to remove the packages listed at the end of your last paste all at once and then reinsall kdevelop
[11:49] <Novus> i haven't a clue where that file is
[11:49] <ikonia> Novus: ok, so what did I tell you earlier about "asking" if you didn't know
[11:50] <Novus> where is that file?
[11:50] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:50] <Novus> I been up for 20 hours
[11:50] <inc0> jrib, I don't care about kdevelop any more, but apt-get purge any of these end with error
[11:50] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:50] <Novus> sorry I missed it
[11:51] <jrib> inc0: apt-get purge all at the same time.  You can pastebin the output
[11:53] <joelataylor> hi - I was hoping to get some clarification on ubuntu's 11.04 apache config for vhosts. I've defined a new vhost in the sites-available dir, yet it never seems to be referenced because the default site always catches the requests. Is it standard to disable the default site when enabling new vhosts?
[11:53] <_cronus_> XATRIX, i just searched the net. seems normal https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749710
[11:53] <jrib> !11.04 | joelataylor
[11:53] <inc0> jrib,  http://paste.org/62398
[11:54] <Novus> where is that conf file ikona?
[11:54] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:54] <jrib> inc0: you can add libkatepartinterfaces4 .  Do note this will take away all your kde stuff, but you should be able to reinstall it later if you want
[11:55] <emash> i am having trouble setting up nvidia drivers (gf 8500) in 12 10&? Any tips/advice?
[11:55] <Novus> LOL welcome to the club emash
[11:55] <jrib> !nvidia | emash
[11:55] <XATRIX> _cronus_: So, it should be used as oneshot ?
[11:56] <joelataylor> jrib: hmmm, it's what media temple offers … would the version make a dif. to my question on ghosts?
[11:56] <inc0> jrib, seems to work because updater popped up ;)
[11:56] <inc0> thanks
[11:56] <emash> already tried, end up with no gui at all. so it seems that the best solution is to install 12 04?
[11:56] <jrib> joelataylor: no, I don't believe vhosts configuration has changed.  However, I would not run 11.04 as it is no longer supported (i.e. no security updates)
[11:57] <emash> !nvidia
[11:57] <jrib> inc0: if you want the kde stuff again, you should be able to just install whatever package you want
[11:57] <joelataylor> jrib: agh, I see - good to know!
[11:57] <jrib> joelataylor: see if they can offer you 12.04 (that will have support until april 2017)
[11:57] <_cronus_> XATRIX, that's what i understand from the explanation as well
[11:57] <XATRIX> Yea
[11:58] <jrib> joelataylor: regarding your question, make sure you symlink to sites-enabled
[11:59] <joelataylor> jrib: yup the link is created
[11:59] <joelataylor> I had to disable the default symlink (a2dissite) to get my new vhost to work
[12:00] <joelataylor> which seems weird, as now I won't have a catch all … (well, I guess my only vhost entry would catch all)
[12:00] <jrib> joelataylor: could be some conflict in the configurations?  Both files should be read iirc
[12:00] <joelataylor> if the default vhost doesn't define a ServerName - would it catch all and not continue to process the specified vhost?
[12:02] <joelataylor> jrib: ooo I think I might've found it. If I'm defining the IP in the vhost it will only read one? as each vhost ip has to be different?
[12:02] <jrib> joelataylor: I don't know.  If no one can help here, there's also #httpd
[12:02] <joelataylor> jrib: thx, I'll try there
[12:08] <iceroot> joelataylor: you can use the same ip for more then one vhost
[12:09] <iceroot> joelataylor: if you dont use a vhost domain or something which will not fit to your vhost definition, apache will use the default document-root which is normally defined for *:80
[12:09] <joelataylor> iceroot: yeh, I just got clarification in #httpd - I had setup my vhosts with the same ip:port - which apache will only read the first directive
[12:09] <rndbit> anyone know what is correct approach to implement launch on startup for application?
[12:09] <joelataylor> yep, iceroot you have to use *:80 to enable name-based vhosts which I missed
[12:09] <iceroot> joelataylor: apache will work on domain-base in that case and will look if there is a special vhost configuration, if not default document root will be used
[12:11] <pistolpete> hey
[12:11] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu 12.10 isn't seeing my USB mouse or keyboard running from a live CD; how can I fix this?
[12:12] <rndbit> did you try another usb slots?
[12:12] <_cronus_> rndbit, probably the one that works. ;-)
[12:13] <rndbit> what works is not always the best way :p
[12:13] <Hyperiant> rndbit: Both were working in windows 2 minutes ago
[12:14] <rndbit> Hyperiant, sometimes weird things happen with usb slots, same device does not work in one slot but works in another, just try moving them around
[12:14] <Hyperiant> Worth a shot
[12:15] <Hyperiant> Right, changed the ports of both and they still don't work
[12:16] <Buli> ee
[12:16] <Hyperiant> They're being plugged into the back ports, no hubs in the way
[12:16] <student06> beng
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <rndbit> usb 2.0? altho 3.0 seems working fine for me
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <FloodBot1> Buli: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <Hyperiant> Yes, they are 2.0 ports
[12:17] <DJones> !pl | Buli
[12:17] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:17] <rndbit> well.. maybe they are too exotic or what not, no idea. i would suggest googling and seeing if anyone else has problems with same devices
[12:18] <rndbit> altho since its both keyboard and mouse - must be something else, not the devices
[12:18] <Hyperiant> I restarted and they magically started working...why they stopped, I have no idea
[12:22] <rndbit> Hyperiant, magic happens. i have to fight with my installation over blinking cursor. no clue what causes it. usually few restarts or update-grub via VM fixes it.
[12:24] <molensis> quick question, how can I know the path of a application?
[12:25] <molensis> i want to put transmission in my startup applications but i can't find its .exe so i cant put its path
[12:25] <mJayk> molensis: linux doesnt use .exe
[12:25] <molensis> i mean the application itself
[12:26] <molensis> whatever the file
[12:26] <Seveas> molensis: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[12:26] <Touhou11> molensis: Run "whereis transmission", or look in synaptic
[12:26] <mJayk> molensis: yes there is no .exe file
[12:26] <mJayk> molensis: go to your startup window
[12:26] <molensis> Seveas: thanks, but for future reference, how can i find it?
[12:26] <mJayk> in settings
[12:26] <c2tarun> can anyone please in figuring out that why is my 91% RAM is full? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604638/   when I took this data only steam was running with downloading a game. But my 91% RAM is full.
[12:27] <c2tarun> please help me ** in
[12:27] <llutz> c2tarun: 1078 used, free  1857   nothing to worry
[12:27] <mJayk> molensis: to add it to startup you just need to enter the command "transmission"
[12:27] <llutz> c2tarun: linux uses free memory as buffer/cache
[12:28] <Seveas> molensis: dpkg -L transmission will show you all files in the transmission package. Actual programs ususally live in /usr/bin
[12:28] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu 12.10 is saying "No root file system is defined."  It says to correct this from the positioning menu but I already told it to make an ext4 partition at sdb1 and set it as the device for boot loader installation.
[12:28] <frots> c2tarun: sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:28] <c2tarun> llutz, ohhh... :) great thanks it means actually only 1644 MBs of RAM is occupied by apps :)
[12:28] <c2tarun> frots, what will that do?
[12:28] <Hyperiant> ...I can't find a "partitioning menu."
[12:28] <frots> drop the cache
[12:28] <llutz> won't work, use  ... sudo tee
[12:29] <frots> ah true
[12:29] <frots> c2tarun: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:29] <molensis> Seveas: it showed a lot of "transmission" how should I know which one is needed to start the app?
[12:29] <llutz> c2tarun: free memory is wasted memory
[12:29] <frots> but have to say that it doesnt speed up anything
[12:29] <c2tarun> llutz, yeah, one more thing, I noticed echo > filename doesn't work but tee does, why?
[12:29] <Touhou11> llutz: That's a common opinion of Java programmers
[12:29] <cylonmath> ls
[12:29] <frots> because > is not run as root
[12:29] <llutz> c2tarun: sudo echo foo >   won't work because only echo will be using sudo, not the >.
[12:30] <frots> e.g. the file is opened by regular user and not writable
[12:30] <Seveas> molensis: see the second half of my previous message :)
[12:30] <c2tarun> llutz, ohh... :) thanks
[12:30] <Hyperiant> Works now, but it wants me to make a partition for swap.  I thought it usually did this automatically.
[12:30] <llutz> c2tarun: so echo foo| sudo tee bar     works
[12:31] <molensis> Seveas: now I get it thank you good sir!
[12:32] <Hyperiant> How much should I make the swap partition be?
[12:32] <cylonmath> How much RAM do you have
[12:32] <Touhou11> Hyperiant: 1 or 2 GB is enough
[12:32] <Hyperiant> 4GB
[12:32] <jpds> Hyperiant: If you want to hibernate, you'll need more like 5/6.
[12:35] <Touhou11> I thought hibernate tends to use a dedicated swap file rather than the swap partition
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: as long as there is space for 'swap' it will be used
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: in Linux, a partition is technically a file. Everything is a file :)
[12:36] <XATRIX> How can i clean dns cache ?
[12:36] <zoie> hello, what is the best way to access to pandora.com outside the US on linux?
[12:36] <XATRIX> The domain already changed it's IP, but when i ping it from my laptop - it's still the old ip assigned
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <XATRIX> thnks
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> actually, not that
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[12:37] <XATRIX> Yea, i did it, nothing happens
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try nscd as the guide says then :)
[12:38] <Seveas> zoie: get a vps in the use and tunnel/route through that
[12:38] <Touhou11> zoie: That's not a Linux question, it's an issue of spoofing your location
[12:38] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/Ov3D/
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: or maybe:   sudo kill -HUP $(pgrep dnsmasq)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:39] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try the kill command, may work
[12:40] <XATRIX> Nope
[12:40] <XATRIX> Still .98
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try stopping and starting network-manager
[12:40] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: nope... It will ruin me everythign :)
[12:41] <XATRIX> Ok, let's wait unstill my dns-cache will expire :(
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[12:42] <F3Speech> When I run "rm -vrf <folderorfiles> from a mounted xfs filesystem nothing happens, no errors and no deletions. Anyone any ideas why? I can see the same folder via a samba share and can rightclick delete from windows removing the folder/file easily.
[12:43] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/Ov3D/ - already did...no effect
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> F3Speech: is it mounted writable?
[12:43] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:44] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> F3Speech: if you use nautilus and delete via the XFS mount point, does it delete?
[12:44] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: im running server ed so no gui
[12:44] <c2tarun> llutz, 3 yrs back when I used windows, I use to get BSOD, now you told me that OS claims free RAM for cache, is this the reason why Windows have BSOD? Because of their faulty memory management? (I was just curious)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: not sure then. Could reboot if all else fails
[12:44] <XATRIX> Yea
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: unused RAM is wasted RAM
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | c2tarun
[12:44] <XATRIX> I also checked /etc/hosts , no extra entries...
[12:45] <mrAlmond> Are there "standardized" ways to customize ubuntu to make it suitable for a "kiosk" application?
[12:45] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I got that part :) I was wondering about BSOD.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: no idea, that's a windows thing :)
[12:45] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, yeah :) never mind.
[12:45] <mrAlmond> I mean customized boot animation and start of a particular application without showing the desktop
[12:45] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: cant get my head around why no errors or anything with the command.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: you can also use preload to put apps in RAM to help speed up the system
[12:46] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, really, how?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: install it and reboot
[12:46] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, install what? preload?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: if you have enough spare RAM, you can set vm.swappiness lower and keep apps in RAM rather than using swap
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: yes, preload is a package
[12:47] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I have 3 GB of RAM and apps I often use are firefox, xchat, eclipse, android sdk, thunderbird and sometimes clementine.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: I'd probably leave swappiness as it s but preload will help
[12:48] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I also have 2GB swap partition.
[12:48] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I'll try and install preload
[12:49] <c2tarun> do I have to configure preload to load certain apps on reboot?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: then you won't be able to hibernate
[12:49] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I never hibernate
[12:49] <F3Speech> Anyone else have an idea why command rm would complete without error but not remove the requested file?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: its predictive, it will work its magic
[12:49] <c2tarun> something is wrong with my machine and hibernate and suspend doesn't turn out well on it :P
[12:49] <elixir> How can i enable hibernate option in my ubuntu 12.10
[12:49] <elixir> i have swap 4gb !
[12:50] <ebit> hello
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> elixir: does the system have a make and model?
[12:50] <llutz> c2tarun: i don't know much about windows, i'm not very interested in windows-internals and why it fails at some point. it handles things different, but at work (only place i use windows) we don't have any problems with bsod etc. windows works stable since years
[12:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: what does it mean?
[12:50] <ebit> quick question, I have windows and ubuntu on is there a way I can access my windows music on Rhytmbox?
[12:50] <c2tarun> llutz, that makes two of us.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ebit: did you install using Wubi?
[12:51] <ebit> yeah
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> elixir: the system you are using. is it a Dell etc?
[12:51] <mJayk> ebit:  go to host in / i think
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ebit: then you can run:   ln -s /host ~/Windows      and access your data in the NTFS partition easily
[12:51] <mJayk> ebit: you should find your windows filesystem in there if you installed via wubi
[12:51] <elixir> ActionParsnip: its Lenovo Y560. 4gb ram!
[12:52] <ebit> I'll try your ideas, a sec
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ebit: it will make a handy link in $HOME called 'Windows' and you can access the data. imho this is the ONLY good thing about Wubi
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> elixir: so the make and model is a Lenovo Y560....this is what I was asking
[12:52] <elixir> ActionParsnip: PS: I cannot do it via extensions.gnome.org :(
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> elixir: let me search
[12:53] <elixir> ActionParsnip: Ohh ! i see. Its first time someone has asked me in technical terms :) Btw , how can i proceed?
[12:53] <Hyperiant> Was it a bad idea to install Ubuntu before Windows?
[12:53] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ok..:)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Hyperiant: not really, you just have to reinstate Grub to the MBR as Windows will overwrite it
[12:54] <Hyperiant> How do I do that?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> elixir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646859
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hyperiant: omgubuntu has a guide called 'sticking it to grub', very useful
[12:56] <ebit> ActionParsnip: when I tried that command it said -  failed to create symbolic link `./Windows': File exists
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ebit: then you ran it once before and got no output, correct?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> elixir: its because it's that garbage switching gpu thing. It causes all manner of hell
[12:57] <ebit> uhmm D:
[12:57] <ebit> the terminal?
[12:57] <Kartagis> has anyone tried to build html5 validator on ubuntu?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ebit: look in your home folder, do you see a 'Windows' folder?
[12:58] <ebit> ah, yeah
[12:58] <beliveyourdream> hi all .. how can i autologin without gdm ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ebit: go into it, what do you see ;)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> beliveyourdream: sure
[12:58] <ebit> but I don't see it when I try to import trought Rhytmbox :v
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> beliveyourdream: you will add a command in /etc/rc.local to use su to run the desktop stuff etc
[12:58] <mJayk> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that info I didnt know you coulddo it that way :)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ebit: set that (or a subfolder of it) to be part of the library.....
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> mJayk: do what?
[12:59] <ebit> a sec
[12:59] <lunitik> Kartagis, Searching for HTML5 validator, I only get a bunch of websites offering to validate sites... what exactly are you talking about?
[13:00] <Kartagis> lunitik: I'm getting a java error trying to build html5.validator.nu service, and I wondered how anyone resolved that, if any
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: which java are you running?
[13:00] <ebit> Thanks for the help, I just made link to the it in the documents.
[13:00] <lunitik> Kartagis, What is the error?
[13:01] <Kartagis> lunitik: the error I get is: "Could not find the main class: nu.validator.servlet.Main. Program will exit."
[13:01] <ebit> to it*
[13:01] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: openjdk I guess
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ebit: links are powerful :)
[13:01] <ebit> :D
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: could try oracle java :)
[13:01] <elixir> ActionParsnip I don't have a hibernate option on my laptop in ubuntu, this thread doesn't solves the purpose.:(
[13:01] <ebit> first time on ubuntu, didn't even know what that is. I only know what's a shortcut
[13:02] <elixir> ActionParsnip: I only have Suspend and Power Off options.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ebit: a symlink appears as a folder or file (whichever is linked to) but the storage doesn't move. It's like a windows shortcut but with more functionality
[13:02] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: in this guide, they said export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk, so I'm guessing that's what they suggest/require
[13:03] <ebit> allright, I guess I have much to learn then. Thanks again.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> elixir: all I can suggest is report a bug
[13:03] <lunitik> Kartagis, Yeah, OpenJDK is what you want to use... a google search is not showing where that function is supposed to be coming from though - certainly the issue is not related to version of Java though based on what you've said
[13:04] <elixir> ActionParsnip: plz do !
[13:04] <elixir> ActionParsnip: thanks !
[13:05] <Kartagis> lunitik: I was following http://blog.simplytestable.com/installing-the-w3c-html-validator-with-html5-support-on-ubuntu/
[13:06] <lunitik> Kartagis, What step are you at that brought this error?
[13:07] <Kartagis> lunitik: that page links to http://about.validator.nu/#src and I am getting the error at python stage
[13:07] <ebit> allright, next problem, when I try to install skype, it shows the folowing: wrong architecture'i386'
[13:08] <Kartagis> ebit: run uname -a
[13:08] <ebit> aight
[13:09] <Touhou11> ebit: Be careful using Skype, it's proprietary software. For more information, see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
[13:09] <Touhou11> ebit: You might like to try Ekiga instead
[13:09] <ebit> Touhoull: well most of my friend are on skype D:
[13:10] <ebit> there's the problem
[13:10] <Kartagis> ebit: what does uname -a tell you?
[13:10] <ebit> Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:11] <Kartagis> ebit: get 64 bit version then
[13:11] <ebit> durr
[13:11] <lunitik> Kartagis, To me it looks like you missed something, I see no where that would bring that issue... you have not been very sure about Java use though, Java isn't installed by default anymore, you should thus know what java is around...
[13:13] <Kartagis> lunitik: running dpkg-query -l *jdk* | grep ii, I get openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless and openjdk-6-jre-lib
[13:13] <Touhou11> ebit: If you explain the dangers of non-free software to your friends, they could switch to Ekiga too
[13:14] <ebit> Touhoull: possibly, they aren't much of computer wizzes or anything
[13:14] <ebit> then again not saying I am
[13:14] <lunitik> Kartagis, That looks right.
[13:15] <ebit> why can't I type my password in [sudo]
[13:15] <ebit> it just doesn't do anything
[13:15] <Seveas> ebit: you can, but nothing will show up in the terminal as you type. Just type the password and hit enter.
[13:15] <Kartagis> ebit: it doesn't show you the password
[13:15] <Kartagis> Seveas beats me to it
[13:15] <ebit> I typed it, but it says wrong password
[13:15] <Seveas> ebit: then type the correct password :)
[13:15] <lunitik> ebit, Then type it correctly
[13:15] <Kartagis> then it is wrong
[13:15] <SeldonH> hello
[13:16] <ebit> I am D::
[13:16] <ebit> ok it worked
[13:16] <ebit> maybe I didn't type it correctly
[13:16] <lunitik> ebit, You definitely didn't.
[13:17] <Kartagis> lunitik: so, what next?
[13:17] <SeldonH> Hello guys i got one or two question about my ubuntu. is there anyone here that could may be help ??
[13:17] <steve____> hi
[13:17] <lunitik> I am at a loss, I just wanted to engage to try to help troubleshoot because I keep seeing you ask, Kartagis, sorry
[13:18] <Tex_Nick> !ask | SeldonH
[13:18] <SeldonH> thx
[13:18] <SeldonH> !ask
[13:18] <steve____> i needed some information on performing incremental build on compiled linux kernel
[13:19] <steve____> can anyone help me ...
[13:19] <k1lled> guys i trying to crack my WEP at home, but..... Failed. Next try with 15000 IVs.
[13:19] <lunitik> steve____, I am not sure what you think you mean... you want to compile a module for the current kernel?
[13:19] <k1lled> how much IVs ..
[13:19] <k1lled> btw for a first time i try this
[13:20] <SeldonH> my ubuntu doesn't start anymore... it's blocked on a dark page with 4 choices 1:ubuntu 2:advanced option3:memory test (memtest86+ and 4: memory test  ( memtest86+, serial console 115200
[13:20] <steve____> @lunitik - i have already compiled and installed linux kernel
[13:20] <Tex_Nick> k1lled:  that's really a question to be asked in #backtrack :)
[13:20] <k1lled> wifi - wep *
[13:20] <ebit> also, what's the easiest way to put like a different language keyboard in which I need other letters like š, ā etc. (latvian language with apostrophe)
[13:20] <jpds> SeldonH: Choose 1.
[13:21] <k1lled> Tex_Nick: i am with ubuntu
[13:21] <k1lled> just install tools
[13:21] <lunitik> steve____, so what is your question? I don't know what you mean by "incremental build"
[13:21] <steve____> @lunitik - but if i want to change some file and re-build just the change
[13:21] <jpds> k1lled: We're sure it's "your" WEP. :)
[13:21] <Pici> k1lled: We do not provide support for such things in this channel.
[13:21] <SeldonH> ok when i do so nothing happen but i heard i noice right now...
[13:22] <SeldonH> i think the hdd is dead
[13:22] <k1lled> ok..
[13:22] <k1lled> off
[13:22] <lunitik> steve____, it should bump the number automatically, although I am mostly used to kernel-package methods
[13:22] <BluesKaj> SeldonH, that.s your grfub menu , it should open ubuntu after a few swcs
[13:22] <BluesKaj> grub menu
[13:22] <Tex_Nick> k1lled:  i understand that ... but pentesting support is better provided in #backtrack :-)
[13:22] <k1lled> ok
[13:23] <SeldonH> no init found
[13:23] <jpds> k1lled: If it was yours, you could look at the back of the router for the passkey.
[13:23] <steve____> lunitik: wht do you mean by bump the number
[13:23] <steve____> lunitik: sry .. i am new to linux
[13:23] <erinc> hello guys. how can i run ubuntu from usb flash disk?
[13:23] <k1lled> jpds: i testing
[13:23] <k1lled> i know the password
[13:23] <k1lled> i want to see i can crack it ..
[13:24] <Pinkamen1_D> hi, I am trying to launch config editor for the first time. I press alt+f2 and type gconf-editor and it shows up, but when i click it nothing happens. Is this something i need to install first?
[13:24] <folivora> ppppp/mn/
[13:24] <lunitik> steve____, instead of kernel-3.8.1-blah1 it will automatically compile the next as -blah2... have you looked at kernel-package or doing the generic compile method?
[13:24] <SeldonH> no init found and it say "enter help for a list of built in commands'
[13:25] <lunitik> steve____, Of course, you will have to recompile the entire kernel for the file changes... if that is what you mean by incremental build... you can't can't apply a patch after it is compiled without doing it again
[13:25] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: what do you want gconf-editor for?
[13:26] <steve____> erinc: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[13:27] <lunitik> Pinkamen1_D, try running it from the terminal and paste the error
[13:27] <ebit_> also, what's the easiest way to put like a different language keyboard in which I need other letters like š, ā etc. (latvian language with apostrophe)
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> sorry i took so long
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> I want it to edit the style of the scroll bars on windows
[13:27] <erinc> steve: i used pendrive but its for windows i use ubuntu right now
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> If its the same command in the terminal as it is there, it says it does not exist
[13:28] <lunitik> erinc, a pendrive isn't for Ubuntu or Windows, it is just a pendrive... try the link
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> Pinkamen1_D: do you want to use the normal scroll bars instead of the overlay ones?
[13:28] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: what ubuntu version is this?
[13:28] <steve____> lunitik: if i want to fix a bug in a file or add a print message ... i end up recompiling the entire kernel .... which takes a lot of time
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> no, I am tryong to mae my own from a collection of image files i have for the arrows , the bar, and the overlay
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> 12.10
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> trying to make*
[13:29] <lunitik> steve____, that is how it works with compiled languages though
[13:29] <steve____> lunitik: instead on re-compile, it should just compile the changed file and create a image
[13:29] <steve____> erinc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:29] <Pinkamen1_D> but i would be interested to know, actionparsnip, how you do that aswell
[13:30] <lunitik> steve____, I certainly know of no way to do that if such a thing exists
[13:30] <erinc> linitik: its a exe file. im using ubuntu right now
[13:31] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: to turn on and off the overlay scrollbars, you probably want dconf-editor (org → gnome → desktop → interface).  To make your own theme, I doubt you do that with dconf or gconf
[13:32] <Pinkamen1_D> any idea where i could start
[13:32] <Pinkamen1_D> ?
[13:32] <steve____> lunitik: thank you
[13:33] <dr_willis> start by looking at other themes. ;-)
[13:36] <brobeans> Hi all. I'm having a silly issue with NIS. I've installed the service, configured the allowed connections, created the DB. However I cannot start the service as it isn't found, even though its installed.
[13:36] <soliloquy1> Hi, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now Ubuntu will not boot, gives me a grub error
[13:36] <brobeans> Any body have a sec that could help
[13:36] <soliloquy1> I'm on a macbook air with refit
[13:40] <elixir> ActionParsnip: if you could help me with another issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:40] <jony> in ubuntu 12.04 krusader access slowly in folders, how can it be fixed?
[13:41] <elixir> ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:43] <elixir> Hi everyone: if you could help me with this issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:43] <elixir> Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:43] <killer> hey
[13:44] <jil> hello
[13:44] <killer> is there a way i can know whenever nautilus is opened (i need it for  a python script)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> killer: pidof nautilus
[13:44] <Novus> ubuntu has forever pissed me off
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: you don't have to use it
[13:45] <Novus> your right
[13:45] <Novus> i don't get it
[13:45] <jil> I'm runnin 12.04 LTS for 3 month now, and it's great.  except that I get different md5sum on exactly the same files ???
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: so where is the issue?
[13:45] <Novus> where do I start?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: no, if you don't like an OS and you don't have to use it then change
[13:45] <Novus> the two major graphics cards I have had are ATI and nvidia
[13:46] <Novus> both have had issues with ubuntu
[13:46] <Novus> 9.10 had sound card issues
[13:46] <jil> I worked on it for month also, changed the memory, checked the disk,  do a cpuburn test... I don't know what to check next
[13:46] <theadmin> killer: Something like this (pure Python) will do: process = filter(lambda p: p.name == "nautilus", psutil.process_iter()). You'll need to import psutil.
[13:46] <Tex_Nick> Novus : a few hours ago you were praising your success with ubuntu ? ;-)
[13:46] <elixir> ActionParsnip: please guide me ! Its really important for me!
[13:46] <killer> ActionParsnip: when i run the script at startup...and how will i know the nautilus is launched....as nautilus will not always have same pid
[13:46] <Novus> everytime I try this system I spend more time trying to install the OS then actually useing it
[13:46] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> killer: I know, pidof doesn't expect the same pid
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> elixir: help with what?
[13:47] <Novus> then
[13:47] <Novus> they put unity in the mix
[13:47] <Novus> arg
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Novus: If you dislike Unity, install Xubuntu
[13:47] <Novus> I'm having a bonfire in my back yard for all the CD's I wasted last night trying to instal the thing
[13:48] <brobeans> Hi all. I'm having a silly issue with NIS. I've installed the service, configured the allowed connections, created the DB. However I cannot start the service as it isn't found, even though its installed.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Novus: or try Suse or Mandriva, something totally different
[13:48] <elixir> if you could help me with another issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:48] <killer> ActionParsnip: kk , i get the idea but is there  a way i can know that a specific folder was opened
[13:48] <Novus> installing Kubuntu atm
[13:48] <elixir> Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> killer: you can use awk to filter out the folder (maybe)
[13:48] <Novus> I've never had issues with them
[13:48] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ^^^
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Novus: that has the same drivers and so forth, the only difference is KDE instead of Gnome
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> elixir: tried installing wicd and removing network manager
[13:49] <Novus> perhaps it's the choice of GNome that is the problem
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Novus: depends what your current issues are
[13:49] <jony> in ubuntu 12.04 krusader access slowly in folders, how can it be fixed?
[13:49] <Novus> GPU is primary one
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Novus: the drivers are the same
[13:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: No. i am new in sense of learning. Can u provide me commands?
[13:50] <Novus> but I've had that twice now on 2 seperate computers
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> elixir: use software centre, just like any other program....
[13:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ok..
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Novus: are you using that OPtimus mess in a laptop?
[13:51] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:51] <soliloquy1> 9:47
[13:51] <Novus> no desktop
[13:51] <soliloquy1> oops, sorry about that artifact - not what I wanted, Mac!
[13:51] <Novus> and belive me when I say this... Win7 worke better then ubuntu on that thing
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Novus: but an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU in the same system?
[13:52] <Novus> AMD NVidia
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Novus: which one?
[13:52] <theadmin> AMD and Nvidia? The two never exist together.
[13:52] <Novus> AMD CPU, nvidia GPU
[13:52] <MacGuges> How does the stability of 12.10 compare with 12.04?
[13:52] <Novus> couldn't tell you
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: Precise is aimed to be more stable
[13:53] <theadmin> MacGuges: Generally speaking, LTS releases tend to be more stable.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Novus: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display      it will tell you the nvidia GPU you have
[13:53] <Novus> i know what GPU I have
[13:53] <Novus> I dled the drivers manually even
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Novus: that's what I asked earlier...
[13:53] <Novus> ubuntu just don't work with it
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Novus: which nvidia GPU do you have please7
[13:54] <Novus> be more specific then
[13:54] <MacGuges> My dad has complained about his machine becoming unresponsive, just a few days past installation.
[13:54] <Novus> 7300GS (could be 7200
[13:54] <Novus> it's an older one yes,.. but nvidia still suports it
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you add the xorg edgers (update) PPA, not the bleeding edge and install the nvidia-current package?
[13:54] <MacGuges> I wonder if it was a mistake to have him upgrade from 12.04.  Would it be difficult to downgrade?
[13:55] <Novus> yup
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Novus: I have a 6250LE, works great with proprietary drivers
[13:55] <theadmin> MacGuges: Impossible
[13:55] <Tex_Nick> MacGuges:  ActionParsnip & theadmin have the best advice there ... however i've been running 12.10 since a couple days after it was released ... it's been rock solid on my platform ;-)
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: you will need to reinstall from scratch to get the earlier version
[13:55] <Xaro> Hey guys, is there an Ubuntu Server channel?
[13:55] <theadmin> Xaro: Yes, it's #ubuntu-server
[13:55] <Novus> wish I knew
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to generate an xorg.conf file?
[13:55] <Novus> it's got to be gnome
[13:56] <Novus> everytime I use KDE it works fine
[13:56] <Novus> yes
[13:56] <Novus> I even locked out all drivers but the one I dl from nvida to see if ther was a conflict and purged existinge oned
[13:57] <Xaro> Thanks.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ?
[13:57] <Novus> I'd love to know what the computers are that they alpha test this OS system on
[13:57] <elixir> ActionParsnip: installed wicd, my wifi works fine as i told above. Connecting a lan shows me up: : "Cable Unplugged" !
[13:58] <geronimo_> join #rubysur
[13:58] <Novus> yes
[13:58] <theadmin> elixir: On a wi-fi connection, open up "Additional drivers", see if there's one for your NIC
[13:58] <Novus> I been workign on this POS for 12 hours straigh
[13:59] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:59] <Novus> i offered to show my screen as IO have 2 desktops side by side
[13:59] <Novus> I could ahve put a cam in it for a walk through too, but I was told "that's not necssary"
[14:00] <theadmin> !recovergrub | soliloquy1
[14:00] <theadmin> soliloquy1: That will likely help in your situation, too.
[14:00] <Novus> i wonder if the ubuntu phones will have this much trouble
[14:01] <elixir> ActionParsnip: Installed jockey-kde and jockey-gtk. Still "Cable Unplugged" :(
[14:01] <Novus> gnome on a phone,.. I can see the thing bursting into flames now
[14:02] <theadmin> elixir: Err, just installing jockey won't do much, you have to run it for it to find drivers
[14:04] <elixir> theadmin: on searching, it shows me up drivers for graphics, which are not useful right now !
[14:05] <theadmin> elixir: Hm, okay. After plugging in a cable, run "ifconfig" and see if there are any eth* interfaces.
[14:05] <elixir> theadmin: eth0
[14:06] <theadmin> elixir: Try to bring it up: sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhclient eth0
[14:07] <AaronMT> System Uptime: 2 Days, 12 Hours, 49 Minutes, 51 Seconds - Textual Uptime: 1 Hour, 37 Seconds
[14:08] <elixir> theadmin: sudo ip link set eth0 up  is succesful, while sudo dhclient eth0 stucks. it hangs just a cursor blinking
[14:08] <theadmin> elixir: Okay, I assume your ethernet interface does not provide DHCP. You have to configure the IP manually with wicd then.
[14:09] <llutz> elixir:LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected"
[14:10] <elixir> llutz: do i need to write this whole in terminal?
[14:10] <elixir> theadmin: same lan works in another ubuntu pc.
[14:11] <theadmin> elixir: Err, okay, is that PC running wicd too?
[14:11] <elixir> theadmin: No
[14:11] <theadmin> elixir: Well then try to get NetworkManager back on... Why would you want wicd anyway
[14:12] <elixir> theadmin: Ok. I am doing that, what next but. I am still stuck on the same place :(
[14:13] <theadmin> Well I had some problems with wicd before, NM never failed me on the other hand.
[14:13] <theadmin> If both NM and wicd fail we can assume the problem is with drivers... Which is extremely strange, I've never seen a wired NIC that'd fail with Ubuntu except.... oh, the nvidia nforce one.
[14:14] <theadmin> I still have no idea how to get that one up
[14:15] <elixir> theadmin: so there is no solution? or someone else could help me please/? or could u redirect me to someone else who may have known its solution please?
[14:15] <stonedmind> Hey guys, who get frizzes on IvyBridge and Intel HD4000?
[14:15] <llutz> elixir: sry i got disconnected, did you run that command? what was the output?
[14:16] <theadmin> elixir: I suggest leaving your question on askubuntu.com, you'll likely get an answer, but try to provide as many details as possible (the fact you're running wicd, the commands you tried and their output, your NIC model if you know it)
[14:16] <MacGuges> but my dad has reported a frozen display, after I'd restarted the lightdm service and killed the X process. Does this indicate a problem with the nouveau driver? He reports seeing the pointer & time remaining stuck in the same place after lightdm had restarted.
[14:17] <elixir> llutz: I was confused so I asked you whether I need to run this whole command on terminal: LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected"
[14:17] <llutz> elixir: yes, but you might need to install ethtool before
[14:17] <elixir> llutz: I am sorry, i am really new to this.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> stonedmind: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:18] <MacGuges> pardon me, just scratching my head. what could freeze up redrawing his display so badly?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: tried Unity2D?
[14:18] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How can I see the progress of file copy for cp? I see the progress in % for scp.
[14:18] <elixir> llutz: Ok , i am doing it.
[14:18] <MacGuges> I'm logged in via ssh if anyone has suggestions for troubleshooting.
[14:18] <theadmin> the_dark_knight: Install gcp from the repos and use that (syntax identical to that of cp)
[14:18] <seednode> What's the name of the Atheros wifi card driver package?
[14:18] <MacGuges> ActionParsnip: I don't believe so.
[14:19] <MacGuges> ActionParsnip: he has just the stock ubuntu 12.10 packages for amd64.
[14:19] <new2b> would running a "ls | grep foo" have any kind of side effects on server performance?
[14:19] <Touhou11> MacGuges: Are you using the Unity interface? If so, it's currently rather buggy. Recommending switching to XFCE instead
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: ah, no 2D there
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/cp-progress-bar-407381/
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316707
[14:20] <llutz> new2b: if it has, you should rethink your hardware-choice of the server
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7128575/how-can-i-make-a-progress-bar-cp-copying-a-directory
[14:21] <new2b> thats what i was thinking, someone just came back to me saying i shouldnt run any commands on the server that are not 'sanctioned' because it will effect server performance
[14:21] <theadmin> new2b: If you have like billions of files, then yeah, it will have some effect... maybe.
[14:21] <new2b> there are 19k files
[14:21] <theadmin> Doesn't sound like a lot to me
[14:22] <new2b> i cant imagine it having an effect, but thought i might be missing something (i'm a newbie)
[14:22] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I have a broadcom  BCM43228. I installed the proprietary driver from "restricted drivers". It works but only connects at G 2.4Ghz when it supports N 5 Ghz.
[14:22] <the_dark_knight> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:22] <PrincessLuna> The driver in use is wl
[14:22] <stonedmind> ActionParsnip: unfortunately i has no access to my laptop now. Can i send it to you later?
[14:22] <theadmin> new2b: Instead of "ls | grep foo", why not just use "ls *foo*"? Unless you're matching against a regular expression, that'd be faster.
[14:24] <new2b> theadmin: doh, forgot about that
[14:24] <elixir> llutz: it had no output.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> stonedmind: sure
[14:25] <llutz> elixir: pastebinit the output of "sudo ethtool eth0" then please
[14:25] <llutz> !paste | elixir
[14:25] <_sundar_> hi
[14:26] <_sundar_> i'm trying to compile compat-wireless-3.8.1 from linux stable backports
[14:27] <_sundar_> the device is an atheros based card
[14:27] <_sundar_> the module compiles fine but refuses to load
[14:27] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604907/
[14:27] <_sundar_> there are lots of symbols which are of a different version
[14:27] <llutz> elixir: check your lan-cable, "Link detected: no"
[14:28] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Have you tried using the latest driver version? http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[14:28] <elixir> llutz: But same lan cable works on another laptop
[14:28] <_sundar_> could someone point to a known compat-wireless source that would compile for 3.8.1?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: do you mean kernel 3.8.1?
[14:28] <llutz> elixir: lspci | grep -i ether                what chipset/nic is it?
[14:28] <elixir> llutz: I mean on any other laptop and pc
[14:28] <suigeneris> hello
[14:28] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here
[14:29] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, its from ubuntu not the one I compiled
[14:29] <kroshkamyau> How can I forward port from my localhost to another IP? So if I send data to localhost:6666 it would go to "whateverip":6666
[14:29] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, i'm just trying to compile compat-wireless for 3.8.1 generic
[14:29] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604918/
[14:30] <PrincessLuna> Touhou11: how would I identify the current version, I would assume the latest has the same issue as I tried 13.04 and experience the same issue
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: 3.8 is a raring kernel. I suggest you ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, ok thanks for the info
[14:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:31] <llutz> elixir: lsmod | grep r8169
[14:31] <suigeneris> I've been getting '/bin/sh :error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory' and ikonia advised me to run ldd against /bin/sh. I have run it and libc.so.6 exists. what to do now?
[14:32] <llutz> !info firmware-realtek
[14:32] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Ubuntu often ships with outdated software
[14:32] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604923/
[14:32] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Run "lsmod", then run "modinfo <module name>" to find the version
[14:32] <suigeneris> however, /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 is a symlink to libc-2.15.so
[14:33] <llutz> elixir: dmesg|grep 8169
[14:33] <MacGuges> I'd not known about this unity 2d >> 3d business. We've both seen graphical corruption on his pc since installing 12.10. I can appreciate the case for consolidation on 3d, but it may be prudent for my dad to regress to 12.04 LTS for his hardware. Agree?
[14:33] <suigeneris> can you advise?
[14:34] <llutz> !find /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw
[14:34] <suigeneris> !find /lib/libc.so.6
[14:35] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604934/
[14:36] <llutz> elixir: "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware"   does it say "already newest"?
[14:36] <suigeneris> llutz: can you advise me what to do?
[14:36] <elixir> llutz: Yes.
[14:37] <drixie> hello all
[14:37] <gnuskool> yo
[14:37] <drixie> noob question here: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:37] <suigeneris> llutz: I've been getting '/bin/sh :error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory' and ikonia advised me to run ldd against /bin/sh. I have run it and libc.so.6 exists. what to do now?
[14:37] <suigeneris> however, /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 is a symlink to libc-2.15.so
[14:38] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"
[14:38] <llutz> suigeneris: do you try to chroot from 64bit into 32bit or vice versa?
[14:38] <gustav_> HoN hangs, visually, so I have to kill -9 it. Then when I try to start it again it takes a long time (3x from functional) to start and just hangs immediately. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[14:38] <gustav_> I use bumblebee.
[14:38] <elixir> llutz: YEs, done !
[14:38] <llutz> elixir: then check "sudo ethtool eth0" again for "link detected"
[14:39] <drixie> noob question here: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:39] <llutz> elixir: you might pull out the cable once, and replug then
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you checked the wine appdb for compatibility?
[14:40] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: HoN is native.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: do you run it with the exta command to make it use the nvidia gpu?
[14:40] <prakashbs> Hi... I am not able to access windows shared folder on Virtual Box VMs., same folder is getting accessed if i access through normal desktop.. any clue?
[14:40] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[14:40] <elixir> llutz: LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected" again shows no output :( Oh God!
[14:41] <llutz> elixir: drop the grep...
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you tried it without?
[14:41] <llutz> elixir: just "sudo ethtool eth0" and watch the last line
[14:41] <janisozaur> can i list processes that use given module?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you tried in a different session, like xfce etc?
[14:41] <suigeneris> llutz: yea
[14:41] <drixie> llutz: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:42] <llutz> drixie: sudo netstat -tuplen
[14:42] <suigeneris> llutz: actually no. I'm trying to run that kernel
[14:42] <drixie> llutz: thanks
[14:42] <elixir> llutz: again link detected: no, BUT ONE GOOD THING. LIGHT IS BLINKING ON RE INSERTING LAN :)
[14:42] <suigeneris> s/run/boot into/
[14:43] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"  again
[14:43] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604947/
[14:43] <llutz> elixir: then again "sudo ethtool eth0" and watch the last line. still "no"?
[14:43] <elixir> llutz: Yes, and the light is still blinking.
[14:43] <elixir> llutz: * Lan Cable light.
[14:44] <suigeneris> llutz: would reinstalling without a format help?
[14:44] <llutz> elixir: drop the wifi connection, try to connect via LAN
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: try install xfce4, reboot then log into the xfce session. Is it better?
[14:44] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I'm in Blackbox now. No difference.
[14:44] <llutz> suigeneris: honestly i don't know what your problem/solution is
[14:45] <adrianrh> Hi, I am having trouble with my bashrc file, it seems I have to use "source .bashrc" every time I open a terminal, any way of sourcing it permanently?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: all I can suggest is report a bug. I have seen few success stories with switching GPU
[14:45] <reddos> ciao non riesco a trovare il canale dovesi parla it mi dite come si fa grazie
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: I turned off the wifi, but in front of 'wired' : still "Cable unplugged" !
[14:45] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: It used to work fine.
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: So can't connect via lan
[14:45] <suigeneris> llutz: my problem is that I get that dreadful message when I try to switch kernels
[14:45] <|Anthony|> I need some guidance getting a remote machine to do backups to my ubuntu desktop. I've tried samba and sshfs. In both situations the remote user didn't have permission to read or write to the folder. Is there some special file perm i need to allow a remote user to rwx to a folder here?
[14:45] <llutz> suigeneris: yes, but i don't know _why_ you get this
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: there is a present bug though. right?
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: should i restart?
[14:46] <llutz> elixir: sudo dhclient eth0
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: HoN works fine without bumblebee.
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yes, so?
[14:46] <llutz> elixir: no
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: it should be reported then
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: To where?
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: still stucks
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I have reported this multiple times on...some website.
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: i.e just the cursor blinking on next line
[14:46] <cronus> prakashbs, maybe your network needs to be set as bridged if it is not
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: and no output shown
[14:47] <llutz> elixir: but ethtool reports "link detected yes"?
[14:47] <suigeneris> *sigh*
[14:48] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Hm. I did rmmod nvidia, service bumblebeed restart and now it works.
[14:48] <dawkirst> hi, I'm trying to get my second display to work, but I've got no idea where to start. Googling yields a disparate range of advice.
[14:48] <suigeneris> llutz: would a reinstall without format resolve this?
[14:48] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Not sure why it hangs though. It hangs when I don't give it input.
[14:48] <llutz> suigeneris: idk
[14:49] <suigeneris> brb then
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: o, paste.ubuntu.com/5604962/
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: No
[14:49] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"  again
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: Yes, then?
[14:49] <llutz> even if it reports it is off already
[14:49] <tero> hi guys. This might be a stupid question, but how can I find out the date that I have install ubuntu on my pc?
[14:50] <elixir> llutz: No it was not already off, i just did it off.
[14:50] <llutz> elixir: ethtool said it was off already
[14:50] <elixir> llutz: ohh.. probably, i was wrong then. Now?
[14:51] <llutz> elixir: no more ideas.... try again: pull out the cable, plug it in, then "sudo ethtool -s eth0  autoneg off && sudo dhclient eth0"
[14:51] <drixie> Has anybody has success with compiling php extension for OpenCV on Ubuntu?
[14:52] <|Anthony|> so the remote machine has users bob and tom. the local machine (the remote will backup to the local) has user tom. the remote tom is able to read and write to the local but bob is not. Bob and Tom are both able to establish a connection though. What am i missing? The happens with both samba and sshfs.
[14:52] <esing> Hello
[14:52] <llutz> tero: "ls -ld /lost+found"  might be the correct date
[14:52] <elixir> llutz: stucks :(
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: what are they connecting using?
[14:53] <tero> llutz thank you
[14:53] <esing> Does Ubuntu already come with my graphic card drivers (my graphiccard is hd 7750) or do I have to install it myself in ubuntu?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !ati | esing
[14:53] <llutz> elixir: sorry, appears i cannot really help
[14:53] <esing> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[14:54] <adrianrh> Hi! can anyone help me permanently source my .bashrc file?
[14:54] <elixir> llutz: how can i use additional drivers to chek whether eth driver is activated or not?
[14:54] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, i've tried using samba and sshfs. both as a remote mount point. The ultimate goal is to set it up in fstab to have automated offsite backups.
[14:54] <jrib> adrianrh: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[14:54] <dfdf> hi
[14:54] <llutz> elixir: the driver you need is the r8169, which you're already using
[14:55] <adrianrh> jrib: every time I open a terminal, I have to write source .bashrc to be able to use it, I wish I didn't have to do that
[14:55] <llutz> elixir: "uname -a"  what kernel version are you using?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> adrianrh, you may have edited it and left a line without the '
[14:55] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, at this point it isn't a connection issue, or even a mounting issue. It seems to be all in the file permissions.
[14:55] <|Anthony|> both bob and tom are able to establish a connection.
[14:56] <jrib> adrianrh: does this issue persist after a reboot? How are you determining that your .bashrc wasn't sourced?  How do you start your shell?
[14:56] <elixir> llutz: ok. paste.ubuntu.com/5604975/
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: I'd use sshfs, you can mount that in fstab, but you will need to add a small mount command in /etc/rc.local as the fstab file is processed before the network comes up
[14:57] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, that was the intention :) first things first though. I need to be able to write to the intended folder lol
[14:57] <adrianrh> jrib: I am logging onto a community server, so I am not able to reboot it, I determine it because I have some commands in my bashrc that does not work until I write "source .bashrc"
[14:58] <|Anthony|> originally tried with samba as i thought it would be easier since it's all on a lan
[14:58] <BluesKaj> adrianrh, accurate info aleays helps
[14:58] <jrib> adrianrh: are you sourcing .bashrc in your ~/.profile?
[14:58] <jrib> (it's sourced by default there in ubuntu)
[14:59]  * canihojr buenas
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: the access is dictated by the account you connect with when the connection is made, just like your user right now has an amount of access
[14:59] <adrianrh> jrib, what exactly do you mean? I don't have a .profile file in my home directory
[14:59] <jrib> adrianrh: is this ubuntu?
[15:00] <elixir> Can someonje help me. LAn light is blinking, my lan driver is properly installed but in wired connection, it shows me up: "Cable unplugged".
[15:00] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, but if the uid is different between server and client...
[15:00] <|Anthony|> or gid for that matter
[15:01] <esing> ActionParsnip, I wonder if it is better to go with the kernel graphic driver because I haven't had any segfaults yet? On archlinux I used the catalyst drivers and had regular segfaults
[15:01] <|Anthony|> i understand local file perms pretty well, but this remote file perms part is kicking my butt
[15:01] <|Anthony|> lol
[15:01] <adrianrh> jrib: yes
[15:02] <adrianrh> cat /proc/version
[15:02] <adrianrh> Linux version 3.2.0-35-generic (buildd@allspice) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: the name is what you authenticate with which has a UID, not sure how the data is stored on the server side. You could always use tar wit hthe option to retain the UIDs etc but tar direct over the link
[15:02] <adrianrh> BluesKaj, what exact info do I need to give?
[15:02] <jrib> adrianrh: then you can find a copy of the default ~/.profile in /etc/skel/.profile.  Use that as it will source your ~/.bashrc if it exists.  As long as you don't also have a ~/.bash_login or ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile should be used
[15:03] <adrianrh> jrib, I got a bash_login
[15:03] <adrianrh> sorry, no
[15:03] <jrib> adrianrh: then make sure it sources ~/.bashrc.  You can see the code for that in /etc/skel/.profile
[15:06] <adrianrh> jrib, thanks, the copied .profile  includes the .bashrc. This should work then? I can be certain that ubuntu will run my .profile every time I log in?
[15:06] <jrib> adrianrh: .profile will NOT be sourced if you have .bash_login
[15:07] <adrianrh> jrib, I was mistaken  earlier, I dont have a .bash_login, what I have is a .bash_history
[15:07] <nyc-h0st> all, odd dnsmasq problem, seems to be picking up the interface dns servers instead of the resolv.dnsmasq, conf file points it to resolv.dnsmasq, any ideas?
[15:07] <jrib> adrianrh: then as long as you don't have a .bash_profile either, .profile should get sourced when you login (and in turn source .bashrc as well)
[15:08] <adrianrh> jrib, thankyou very much
[15:08] <MacGuges> I believe we want to regress to 12.04 LTS to switch to Unity 2D, but today is not a convenient time.  But my dad needs a stable environment for today.  Which window manager would be a most quick & easy alternative for him? I think twm would me too bare.
[15:08] <jrib> adrianrh: no problem
[15:10] <esing> Should I use upstart in Ubuntu to automount my ntfs-3g sata drive on startup?
[15:10] <jpds> esing: No, use /etc/fstab.
[15:10] <iceroot> esing: you should use /etc/fstab
[15:10] <iceroot> !fstab | esing
[15:10] <esing> jpds, iceroot  Ok thanks
[15:13] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, having a persistent critical error. Running 10.04 on an old toshiba. Occasionally the screen will go black, in the corner it flashes through text, and I can see some normal active processes, but a Hangcheck Timeout keeps showing up. Then a window pops up that says ubuntu has to run in low-graphics mode, and gives me a bunch of options that don't do anything. I'm thinking either crappy graphics card getting hot, or an unstable driver/install?
[15:14] <gray--> hi all, does anyone know the size of the repo for quantal-updates and backports for amd64?   i've mirrored locally the main repo, just thinking about mirroring the others daily too
[15:16] <esing> Should I set dev as a mount option or not? I don't understand what it does "Interpret character or block special devices on the filesystem."
[15:17] <gray--> esing: i think i missed your question, can you ask again?
[15:22] <avi143> I am medical student. Is it useful for me to learn internals of linux. I am intrested and know programming (i think).
[15:23] <gray--> anyone know the size of quantal-updates repository?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> gray--, they're just links
[15:26] <gray--> links to...?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> packages
[15:26] <gray--> so if i decide to mirror the quantal-updates repo using apt-mirror, it'll just add symlinks in?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> gray--, depends on which sources/rpos you have enabled
[15:26] <gray--> as above, amd64
[15:27] <gray--> (apols if you've joined since then)
[15:27] <raj> why isn't openbox listed here? http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/10-of-the-best-linux-window-managers-909223
[15:27] <raj> it's a poor window manager?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gra a mirror is a mirror, just a repository like any other , just adiffernt location
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gray--, ^
[15:30] <gray--> BluesKaj: i've mirrored the quantal repo locally, which was ~100gb, but i haven't mirrored quantal-updates or quantal-backports, and i'd like to find out how big they are before i mirror them
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ok a local repos /provider ... dunno never tried that
[15:33] <esing> The fstab option 'defaults' comes with rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async ; As you can see there is no  atime / noatime / relatime option; Which atime / noatime / relatime option does Linux take as default?
[15:33] <gray--> no worries, trying to build lots of VMs without having to go out to the internet lots of times to get varying packages
[15:34] <fidel> gray--: take a look at apt-cacher-ng
[15:34] <fidel> easier/less bandwidth-waste for such things
[15:34] <ikonia>  /away not here
[15:34] <ikonia> oops
[15:34] <gray--> fidel: that's my other option :)
[15:35] <gray--> but fidel, you sound like you might be a man 'in the know'.... any ideas?
[15:35] <fidel> gray--: ideas on what?
[15:36] <gray--> the size of quantal-updates
[15:36] <fidel> gray--: nop - using apt-cacher-ng here - so i dont mirror the entire repo ;)
[15:37] <gray--> it does feel like a more sensible option to use the cacher.... can you set your own cache policies?  revalidation and so on/
[15:37] <gray--> ?
[15:39] <sandeepr> i have 12.04 server with no gui. is there a way to use aptoncd only from cli?
[15:47] <afflicto> What's a good IDE for python dev?
[15:49] <iceroot> sandeepr: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[15:50] <ascheel> When using 'logrotate' can you specify a 'rotate' parameter greater than 2 digits like 1000?
[15:50] <tama> Hi all. I am looking for a nice tutorial about squid3 on ubuntu 12.04 on the internet but it seems I can't. All the tutorials are for squid2. I want to use squid as bandwidth manager and caching server. Does anyone know where I can get it? The https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html are too high tech for me. Thank you very much before. :)
[15:51] <Touhou11> afflicto: Eclipse
[15:52] <Touhou11> tama: If that basic guide is too advanced, you'll struggle to use Squid. It's intended to be setup by people with technical knowledge, not end-users
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> tama: plenty of youtube guides
[15:53] <sandeepr> iceroot, thanks for the link. however it does not server my purpose. my intention is to simplify the installation of packages and always have a tested build so it does not break the environment
[15:53] <delkin> Hi everyone! Some days ago I came here asking you about a grub problem I am having. It basically gets stuck even if I place GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 etc... I think I found the source of the problem but I still have no solution: I believe that my bios is doing something that some previously pressed keys remain in the buffer and when grub is loaded those keys are sent to grub and grub blocks. Is there a way to avoid Grub from being sensitive to keyboard input?
[15:54] <leptone> ive got 64 bit 12.04. trying to follow http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/connecting-to-your-apple-time-capsule-in-ubuntu seeing this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605113/
[15:56] <aluno> s
[15:57] <tama> Hi Touhou11 thanks for the reply. I want to learn. That's why. I basicly knows about IP, gateway, and DNS now, and also ssh and terminal, with basic routing, and network. Does this still not sufficient to learn? I really don't understand, for example, why we need to change the TCP port to 3128 on the ubuntu guide.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> tama: you don't as long as nothing else is using that port
[15:57] <tama> Hi ActionParsnip, thanks for your reply. Can you suggest me what should I search? The keyword. Since english is not my primary language. Thanks before. :D
[15:59] <Touhou11> tama: You don't _have_ to change the port... the guide probably suggests it because default ports are often targetted maliciously, and also 8888 is easier to remember
[16:00] <raj> what is the dolphin package called? it's not kdebase-dolphin, as I saw online
[16:00] <tama> ActionParsnip, what I was trying to said is, is there any tutorial about 12.04's squid3 with something like: "Okay, so your computer behaves like this. That is because this. Now, what you need to do is this. This command means that. So, go here, config this, and then you restart this. Now try this thing on the computer to see if it is working or not." That kind of tutorial. Is there any? thanks. :)
[16:00] <MacGuges> I've installed the lubuntu-desktop on my dad's ubuntu system.  Now that those packages have installed, how does he switch to running lubuntu and lxde?
[16:00] <lunitik> raj, use the tools available: apt-cache search dolphin
[16:01] <MacGuges> I need to give him instructions because I'm trying to avoid walking downstairs on my sprained ankle.
[16:01] <afflicto> I just installed apache2. Copied the default site file to a new one and set the directives to /home/afflicto/www but I'm getting 403 now. Please help!
[16:01] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know if a minus sign is allowed in the crontab command field?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> tama: I used youtube to set mine up
[16:02] <tama> more like study cases than blind tutorial.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: you can always escape it ;)
[16:02] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip:  with a \ like anything else?
[16:02] <lunitik> MacGuges, When he's logging in, there should be a "session" option that will give a list of installed desktops... he can choose it there.
[16:02] <Touhou11> afflicto: Have you allowed apache to see that directory?
[16:02] <MindSpark> ithen it must be something else that the cron parser doesn't like I guess
[16:03] <afflicto> Touhou11: how do I know?
[16:04] <afflicto> Touhou11: oh wait.. the apache process runs as a group or user so I need to give it access to the files?
[16:04] <Touhou11> afflicto: Yes, it needs to have read access to that directory and files
[16:06] <afflicto> Touhou11: Ok how would I do that?
[16:07] <Touhou11> afflicto: Use "chmod"
[16:08] <Touhou11> afflicto: I suggest reading a tutorial on how permissions work in Unix
[16:08] <afflicto> Touhou11: ok
[16:09] <TehAndrewRyan> I have a pretty advanced (to me anyway) idea I want to accomplish. Basically, I'm running a Minecraft server, and I want some communcation between the forums we have and the server itself. The idea I have is that I want to send a command with a variable to the server computer (different host than the forums) after the user has registered on the forums, the variable being their in-game name to be used in a promotion command. I've figured out how to send
[16:12] <MacGuges> lunitik:ok, I'll tell my dad to look for "session" at his login screen.
[16:12] <eN_Joy> my company's server got hit by rootkit exploit, it's on redhat, although my private box is on ubuntu. i wonder if we ubuntu'ers are also exposed to rootkit?
[16:13] <sajan> Anybody have any suggestions/tips...or recommendations on a decent laptop that will run Ubuntu flawlessly?  Budget is around $1100.  Want at least 128GB SSD and 8GB RAM.  Looked at System76, and have a build in shopping cart...but want to shop around.  Just wondering what I should be looking out for when it comes to compatibility.
[16:14] <dragonfly> Hi guys. I need some help with this frustrating bug which has displace the desktop area to down right by about an inch.
[16:14] <leptone> do i need to worry about theses warnings? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605157/
[16:14] <dragonfly> can anyone take a look /
[16:15] <dragonfly> anyone around for help ?
[16:16] <coventry> I've edited some drives out of /etc fstab, because they're no longer present on the system.  However, the boot process keeps halting to tell me they're not available and waiting for me to tell it to skip over them.  What do I need to change to tell it to stop doing that?
[16:16] <dragonfly> someone please take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/q/266282/86733
[16:18] <Zylith> hello everyone - What would be the easiest way to downgrade my java on 12.10
[16:18] <esing> Is there no difference between dpkg -l | grep filename and apt-cache pkgnames | grep filename?
[16:18] <brightspark> coventry: have you updated GRUB since editing fstab?
[16:18] <lunitik> esing, There is a huge difference, dpkg only works locally, apt works remotely (it is basically wget on crack)
[16:18] <Pici> esing: apt will not know about any .deb files that you installed outside of apt-get install
[16:19] <lunitik> esing, also, you can't use apt-cache to search files... you have to use apt-file
[16:19] <Pici> esing: oops, I misread, listen to lunitik.
[16:19] <coventry> brightspark: Yes.  "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda" and "grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg".  But I am relatively inexperienced with grub, so I might have done something wrong, there.
[16:21] <esing> lunitik, Pici I see, thanks
[16:21] <brightspark> coventry: That's all I'd have done, too.  Can you provide the exact text of the error message?
[16:22] <lunitik> Pici, Your statement is actually just wrong though, apt doesn't deal with .deb's at all, it knows nothing about them, it fetches files and throws them over to dpkg... aptitude used to read dpkg outputs for some things, but that was not via libapt
[16:22] <lunitik> Pici, Not being rude, just trying to inform
[16:24] <coventry> brightspark: No, I can't give you the exact message.  It doesn't seem to appear in /var/log.  It's something like "Unable to mount <blah> to /extra because it is not yet available.  Press M to wait for mount, or S to skip."
[16:24] <syncsys_> can anyone answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15342665/google-seo-indexing-subdomains
[16:24] <Pici> lunitik: I agree it doesn't.  I replaced some terms to try to make it easier to understand, but I ended up answering a different question that wasn't even asked.
[16:24] <brightspark> coventry: And skipping it works fine?
[16:24] <coventry> brightspark: yes.
[16:26] <ClientAlive> is there any way to publish a folder with ubuntu one? (not a file, an entire folder and not using and email address but to be given a url that I can give to whomever I want to get the thing).
[16:26] <coventry> dragonfly: If it's not a hardware issue, you didn't explicitly reconfigure anything, and it persists across reboots, there's a good chance it's a gnome issue.  Maybe try asking in #gnome.
[16:26] <ClientAlive> Even if there is, does that person have to be signed up to ubuntu one to get it?
[16:27] <lunitik> ClientAlive, yes... I don't think they have to be signed up, but they have to be authorized... let me check because it is something new
[16:27] <ClientAlive> lunitik: ok. thank you.
[16:27] <brightspark> coventry: Give fsck a shot, I guess- that's all I can suggest, sorry.
[16:27] <dziegler> Hi i have a quick question, is it possible to forbid the access to some ip-addresses for the PPTP-Clients? (I am useing pptpd as PPTP-Server)
[16:27] <coventry> brightspark: Thanks, will do.
[16:27] <dragonfly> coventry, it was all a sudden crash, I did nothing but working on sublime text when everything went still and after reboot it was like this
[16:27] <tm_> dragonfly: Could there be two separate (and conflicting) settings/configs?
[16:28] <dragonfly> tm_ what do you mean by two separate settings ?
[16:29] <tm_> Like two parts of the system using different configurations, which do not match.
[16:30] <lunitik> ClientAlive, can you access this file: https://one.ubuntu.com/files/#f=f%2FThis%2520is%2520a%2520test
[16:30] <dragonfly> tm_ I dont think there is any other configuration, like I said, It happened suddenly when I was working on sublime text
[16:30] <tm_> Whatever draws the background image seems to have a different idea of the screen layout than whatever put the menu there.
[16:30] <lunitik> ClientAlive, uhh, I meant this one: https://files.one.ubuntu.com/0jR7qaYHReuH1iwBglNNBQ
[16:30] <dragonfly> tm_, what do you think might be causing the problem ?
[16:31] <ClientAlive> lunitik: ok
[16:31] <ClientAlive> thx
[16:32] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Can you see the file containing "testing 123"?
[16:32] <KolakCC> Can anybody please help me with debugging my mouse scroll wheel or tell me where I can go to get help? My mouse wheel is acting -really- strange.
[16:32] <ClientAlive> lunitik: it's a page that says: "Could not locat object."
[16:33] <ClientAlive> *locate*
[16:33] <farkgis> #ubuntu-fr-ops@irc.freenode.net
[16:33] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Ahh, well you can also hit "Share this file" and enter an e-mail, but I don't have your e-mail... I assume that would work fine though.
[16:33] <KolakCC> When I scroll, the window position jerks around and usually goes back to where it started and it sometimes scrolls the wrong way. But it never scrolls like it used to.
[16:34] <tm_> Honestly I don't know. But I would speculate that a file has been regenerated, overwriting changes that were made somewhere else. There are so many ways to change the settings, and conflicts are not that unusual.
[16:34] <Novus> yea so get this
[16:35] <ClientAlive> lunitik: that is exactly my situation. I have a programming project I want to ask for help on. It's multi file and I would like to offer it in a public setting where the other person is probably not going to give me their emial address (another irc channel).
[16:35] <Novus> why in the hell did kubuntu just start up, no problems?
[16:35] <farkgis> ca parle  francais  ici?
[16:35] <Novus> worked right out of the box with my GPU I was fighting with for 12 hours
[16:36] <syncsys_> can anyone answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15342665/google-seo-indexing-subdomains
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !fr| farkgis
[16:36] <lunitik> ClientAlive, can throw most things on github
[16:36] <Novus> and it wasn't drivers, or anything normal I'll say that
[16:36] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Also, Google Drive etc
[16:36] <lunitik> DropBox idk how easy to share though
[16:37] <ClientAlive> lunitik: I'll check out github. As for google drive, I've used it a little but I didn't think there's a way to share it without the other persons email. Is there?
[16:37] <lunitik> Novus, Kubuntu doesn't require GPU acceloration by default.
[16:37] <dragonfly> coventry, #gnome is dead silent :( I dont think anyone is gonna look into my problem
[16:37] <lunitik> Let us pretend I can spell.
[16:38] <|Lord_Zoo|> !es
[16:38] <lunitik> dragonfly, Gnome people are actually on irc.gimp.net #gnome
[16:38] <Ri> anyone know how to fix a graphics error while trying to 12.04 off of a USB? After it runs the scripet and trys to go to the desktop the screen flashes and there is a courser.
[16:39] <lunitik> ClientAlive, You can make things public and give them the link... it contains an authentication key in the URL for the file
[16:39] <ClientAlive> lunitik: right on. I'm there now. thx
[16:41] <esing> I want to install the package ultrastar. I did: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:tobydox/ultrastardx and then sudo apt-get update and finally  sudo apt-get install ultrastar-deluxe ultrastar-deluxe-songs
[16:41] <Ri> the graphics card in the laptop is a SiS M760
[16:41] <esing> But yet the packages aren't found
[16:43] <brightspark> esing: ultrastar-deluxe-songs is only available for lucid.
[16:43] <esing> brightspark, And ultrastar-deluxe?
[16:44] <esing> It's neither found
[16:44] <brightspark> esing: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:44] <esing> brightspark, 12.10
[16:45] <brightspark> esing: The ultrastar-deluxe package had build errors for Quantal.
[16:45] <phincy> hi
[16:46] <esing> brightspark, So it has been taken off?
[16:46] <phincy> hi
[16:47] <brightspark> esing: Compiled binaries for Quantal don't exist.
[16:47] <brightspark> esing: You could try to install the ones for Precise, but that's very much an at-your-own-risk action.
[16:48] <esing> brightspark, Where do I find the deb package for Precise?
[16:48] <esing> brightspark, Could I also just install the deb from here: http://ultrastardx.sourceforge.net/usdx-downloads/usdx/ ?
[16:48] <brightspark> esing: Do you have 64-bit or 32-bit?
[16:48] <esing> 64bit
[16:50] <brightspark> esing: So the link you provided would probably work; if you have problems with it you could try https://launchpad.net/~tobydox/+archive/ultrastardx/+files/ultrastar-deluxe_1.1.0-svn-20120608-1_amd64.deb
[16:50] <brightspark> esing: Good luck
[16:50] <esing> brightspark, Thanks
[16:51] <TehAndrewRyan> I have a pretty advanced (to me anyway) idea I want to accomplish. Basically, I'm running a Minecraft server, and I want some communcation between the forums we have and the server itself. The idea I have is that I want to send a command with a variable to the server computer (different host than the forums) after the user has registered on the forums, the variable being their in-game name to be used in a promotion command. I've figured out how to send
[16:52] <Sjajne_Niti> how to remove zeitgeist from start up, but totally? ;d
[16:52] <Sjajne_Niti> I removed it, but some zeitgeist processes are still running
[16:53] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the rest was cut off.......
[16:53] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: What was cut off?
[16:53] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the message seemed incomplete
[16:54] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: How so?
[16:54] <rmemory> quit
[16:54] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: well, obviously not to you, so nevermind
[16:55] <SonikkuAmerica> rmemory: try /quit
[16:55] <rmemory> thanks
[16:56] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: <.< would you be as kind as to say what's missing in there? If what you're trying to say is that I've not supplied you with enough information, please do tell me what else you need to know as it's kinda hard to guess when you barely know this stuff.
[16:57] <KolakCC> what do you want
[16:57] <afflicto> Ok so I've been fiddling with this for an hour now. On my laptop I have the exact same setup on the same ubuntu 12.10 and it works great. But on my desktop I'm getting 403 forbidden whenever I enable my home/afflicto/public_html site. Anyone?
[16:57] <DrZaius> [M T>
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> afflicto: Likely that the permissions on the files or directory are not correct.
[16:58] <afflicto> jhutchins_wk: What permission do they need?
[16:59] <afflicto> jhutchins_wk: I chmod'ed to 755
[16:59] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the post you had seemed to be incomplete, but for clarity - what is it you're trying to achieve?
[17:00] <jhutchins_wk> afflicto: What do the server's logs say?
[17:00] <phincy> afflicto: do you have any log files enabled for it?
[17:00] <afflicto> I don't know about log files. I saw one log file where it said "permission denied" all the time
[17:01] <phincy> usually for Apache, files will need 644 permission and for directories 755
[17:01] <pianogmx> hey so I am trying to run "sudo apt-get update" it worked at home but my campus infrastructure i think is blocking ubuntu updates
[17:01] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: I want to extract the username of the most recently registered member on the forums, use that username as a variable and send it to a different computer to be used in a command on a Minecraft server through the console. Say member "example" registered on the forums, I want to extract the name "example" from the database and send it to another computer that will issue, say a promotion command using that name (like "promote example")
[17:02] <KolakCC> hardly an #ubuntu question
[17:02] <KolakCC> a*
[17:03] <pianogmx> but how would i check its my campus infrastrucutre and not something else?
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx, are you in the "admins" group?
[17:03] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: I would make it a part of the registration process to send the name and/or command to the other server.  Using the name in a command via ssh to either store the name remotely or execute whatever action remotely would probably work.
[17:03] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im in my "sudo" group.... idk about "admins"
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Well what kind of error are you getting?
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: What specific error do you get?
[17:04] <pianogmx> im getting a whole bunch of "Unable to connect errors" with the ip address
[17:04] <pianogmx> want me to pastebin it?
[17:04] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: ok, what forums are you currently running, are they php based?
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Can you ping those servers?
[17:05] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: So in the registration form I'd code it to send the command via SSH as soon as they're entered their username to be used as a variable?
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: Something like that.
[17:05] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: Simple Machines, and yes
[17:05] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, yes I can ping the server
[17:05] <LuxuryMode> should i grab the 64 bit version of ubuntu if im using a 64 bit processer (core i7 on my mac)?
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Can you connect to the server with a web browser?
[17:05] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: How do you plan on inputting the ssh command into the console window?
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> KolakCC: ssh can be run from a script.
[17:06] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, i get a not found error on the server
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> LuxuryMode: ^^ That. And yes, probably.
[17:06] <pianogmx> "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_US"
[17:06] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: However, the problem is that the console is already running.
[17:06] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the way I'd do it is by REST web service, so the reg process would add 'example' user as http://myserver/user/example
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Do you mean server not found or file not found?
[17:06] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: I kind of know, I at least figured out the way to send the command to the screen running the server once you're connected
[17:06] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: He would have to ssh in and then find a way to add the command to the console window IN the minecraft server
[17:07] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: Like what? I'm interested.
[17:07] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk,, requested url not found
[17:07] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, i also switched to another mirror and got a similar result
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> KolakCC: No, not at all.  ssh <server> <command> works fine.
[17:07] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: Then how would he input a command into the existing minecraft_server console?
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: You would want to set up keys so you don't have to worry about passwords.
[17:07] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: With screen -S <screen name> -X eval 'stuff "<command>\015"'
[17:08] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: Oh, okay. Good to know!
[17:09] <pianogmx> switched my sources to duke and mit (usa) and still getting errors.
[17:09] <adamx> dumb question. is chmod not permenant?
[17:09] <lunitik> adamx, it is, why?
[17:09] <phincy> sure it is
[17:09] <mgolisch> adamx: it should be
[17:09] <adamx> I set up Samba on a machine
[17:09] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: So basically ssh <server> <command> sends a command over SSH without actually "connecting" to it (as in you stay connected even after issuing the command)
[17:09] <adamx> and it seems like once a day or so
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> adamx: Depends on what.  Some stuff gets re-created at boot.
[17:09] <adamx> I have to go in and chmod -r 777 /shared
[17:10] <adamx> It's a folder on the root of the drive
[17:10] <adamx> Is that possibly why it's reverting?
[17:10] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, so basically i think my campus is filtering out requests to update somehow
[17:10] <adamx> To my knowledge, this machine should not reboot.
[17:10] <mgolisch> adamx: no it shouldnt be
[17:10] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: It does it without an interactive shell.  Test with something like ls: ssh <server> ls -l
[17:10] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, multiple sources through unable to connect errors
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: They could block ports or server addresses, wouldn't make sense to block specific files.
[17:11] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: How does it work with the password though? I mean it still requires a password
[17:12] <phincy> TehAndrewRyan : you can try setting up ssh keys without passwords.
[17:12] <pianogmx> pianogmx, i just dont know why my campus would all of a sudden block mail ports from thunderbird and updating
[17:13] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, my windows in vm updates fine but linux is censored (cries)
[17:14] <TehAndrewRyan> phincy: No way of doing it with a password? Also, the server is running on a different user than the root, so it's telling me it can't find a screen session because of that. Can I choose what user I want to issue the command on?
[17:14] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: connect as root@yourmachine
[17:14] <pianogmx> damit just turned into a dance club in the cafe
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: You can ping it fine but not anything else...
[17:15] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, yes i can resolve a ping but can get new updates
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: You mean *can't
[17:16] <marvindoppelt> after updating my ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS won't start - just hangs with a dark screen of death with a prompt.  What could be the cause?
[17:16] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, yes.
[17:17] <cerebrate> i use lubuntu and i expanded my repos tremendously but i would like the app "gdiskdump" in the repos until i get better at linux
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx, I assume you're either ssh'd into it or connected directly to an ethernet socket...?
[17:17] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im on a campus wifi network
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Can you describe this "dark screen of death"
[17:18] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu is lagging hard on a system it really shouldn't be lagging on.  I suspect it's because of lack of video drivers.  How do I fix this?
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Can you access a web page via, say, a browser
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[17:18] <phincy>  TehAndrewRyan: yes.. but the user should be present in the server
[17:18] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, nope... just get errors
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Probably the issue, then, lies with your connection config. Kind of an !xy thing if you will.
[17:19] <pianogmx> !xy
[17:19] <n8w> im trying to get an instant cpu usage by usin: top -b -n1 | awk 'NR==3 { print $5 }' but the value doesnt change...htop or top show that the value changes
[17:19] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, on powering my laptop, a blank screen appears with a prompt
[17:19] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, i had a fresh install last week.. no extra config.  last week worked, this week no work
[17:19] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, plainly stated
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: A grub rescue prompt or a console login?
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: Okay, next issue is that it says "-X: One or two arguments required" and then "-X: Unknown command "say" (say being a command that broadcasts a message)
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: (this being printed in the screen session once I've attached it)
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: OK... first thing to ask is: Does it work for other people using Linux or Android?
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: To add to that, it works excellent to run the screen -S command from the same user if I disconnect from the screen session
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: (If you don't know we can skip this step)
[17:21] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, or better question find another person on CAMPUS that may have it working.  most people on CAMPUS use Windows or iMac
[17:21] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, Grub appears and am able to select ubuntu but thereafter appears the prompt
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Is it just a ">"? Or...?
[17:22] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: yeah, I think that's because the minecraft console isn't a real console.. you'll probably have to find a way to input stuff into it
[17:22] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, _
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Same here... I'm the only Ubuntu user for miles...
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Is it blinking?
[17:22] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, yup
[17:23] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: It doesn't make sense to me though, the exact same command works if I don't use the SSH part, if I input that command from outside of the screen session
[17:23] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im going to hunt down this unix/linux professor on campus.
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: You have a case of the hanging cursor. Can you reboot into recovery mode?
[17:23] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: is the server running in a graphical environment?
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: OK. S/He might be able to help you a bit more...
[17:24] <|Anthony|> did i read "Minecraft"?
[17:24] <linguini> I want to install http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/YAML/lib/YAML/Any.pm , but not in ~/.cpan .  I see that ubuntu has many perl packages, but I'm having trouble finding one for the above module.
[17:24] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: No, the server is firstly run on a computer without a graphical environment, has a -nogui tag on boot and launches a screen session on boot which is what I use to access the "console"
[17:25] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, Yes I can but then again the fail safe mode fails telling me that my input devices can't be detected
[17:25] <linguini> Is there some way to find the above perl module in the form of an ubuntu/debian package?
[17:25] <gustav_> I can't access the Flash settings dialog in Firefox. Any ideas?
[17:25] <|Anthony|> TehAndrewRyan, I'm running a mc server too :) can you repeat your original question please?
[17:26] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: I haven't the slightest, sorry.
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: I would try running dpkg in the recovery menu.
[17:27] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: Oh cool :) Basically I want to get the username of a newly registered member on our forums, extract that name as a variable and send it via SSH to the computer hosting the server, where the variable would be used to, let's say promote <user>. I somehow need to figure out how to extract the name and then make it into a command to send, and I also seem to have to figure out how to input commands through the server console via SSH as it didn't 
[17:28] <gustav_> Found a solution.
[17:29] <|Anthony|> TehAndrewRyan, maybe we could take this minecraft convo to pm? or even to the correct irc network
[17:29] <|Anthony|> lol
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> |Anthony|: Try EsperNet.
[17:29] <|Anthony|> i know
[17:29] <|Anthony|> that's what i was going to mention
[17:29] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: I asked on here because it involves a lot of ubuntu bash commands and similar :P But yeah, where do you suggest?
[17:29] <KolakCC> Why's that? It's hardly minecraft related.
[17:29] <phincy> TehAndrewRyan:  the first part "extracting user info" will require knowledge of database/table structure in your application..Once the info is availbale, you can assign the value to a variable in the server console using ssh.. this is the middle part and I guess it is the easiest
[17:30] <|Anthony|> i have a feeling that there is a plugin that will do this already
[17:30] <|Anthony|> or at least very similar
[17:30] <|Anthony|> and it really doesn't need any bashfoo at all
[17:30] <PoPpiLLs> linguini try installing libconfig-yaml-perl
[17:30] <bigbadben> is there an equivalent to gksudo?
[17:31] <bigbadben> for unity
[17:31] <|Anthony|> there should be a java listener that will wait for a signal sent from the website... maybe via php or somehting
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bigbadben: If you're using KDE it's kdesudo
[17:31] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: I'd love to get some input on alternate ways of doing it if possible. Have to go for around 10 minutes now though, I'll be right back
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bigbadben: But other than that not really.
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !gksudo
[17:31] <|Anthony|> or if you have mysql setup on the same machine...
[17:32] <bigbadben> Thank you
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> bigbadben: gksudo works in Gnome which is the desktop environment fr Unity
[17:33] <abshaar> malem semua...
[17:34] <linguini> PoPpiLLs: Thanks, but that looks like a different YAML module.
[17:34] <bigbadben> very good point lol, I actually was trying to change permissions on a folder and needed to chown -R so all is good thank you all
[17:38] <aFeijo> hi, I managed to install guake in 2 of 3 ubuntu desktops 12.10, but in one it say package not found? why?
[17:39] <jrib> !info guake
[17:39] <jrib> aFeijo: probably does not have universe enabled
[17:39] <aFeijo> weird, it should... how can I enable universe?
[17:40] <jrib> !repos | aFeijo
[17:40] <aFeijo> thanks
[17:40] <gustav_> No one wants to talk to me on Chatroulette. :(
[17:40] <gustav_> Oh. Sorry. Wrong channel.
[17:42] <lokesh> when I press CTRL + ALT + RIGHT CLICK, in blender, I get the move window of ubuntu, how do I disable this?
[17:42] <lokesh> actually alt right click also does this
[17:42] <afflicto> I'm looking for someone to fix apache2 for me. I can pay through paypal. I set the directory to /home/afflicto/public_html and I get 403 forbidden.
[17:43] <Seveas> afflicto: support here is free :)
[17:43] <jrib> afflicto: what do you mean by "set the directory"?  What does "ls -ld /home /home/afflicto /home/afflicto/public_html" return?
[17:44] <Seveas> afflicto: check permissions on /home/afflicto and /home/afflicto/public_html, them must be at least executable by all
[17:44] <afflicto> Seveas: Sure, but I'm kinda desperate. I've been wanting to develop my apps whole day. It's getting on my nerves :(
[17:44] <Seveas> and you may need to add a <Directory> block to your config
[17:44] <aFeijo> jrib, my Universe is enabled!
[17:44] <afflicto> home/afflicto I don't know but home/afflicto/public_html is 777 and public_html/index.html is 777 too
[17:44] <jrib> aFeijo: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install guake
[17:44] <Zanaphel> tomb raider
[17:44] <Seveas> afflicto: chmod a+x /home/afflicto, just to be sure.
[17:45] <jrib> afflicto: thus why I gave you a command to run :)
[17:45] <KolakCC> !info quake
[17:45] <win7usr> hey all, we are thinking to use ubuntu usb live with open office so the students can do exams is this okay and we will block internet is this okay
[17:46] <Seveas> win7usr: yes, that is ok
[17:46] <afflicto> Still not working
[17:46] <s9iper1> i am using 13.04 with 3.9.0 kernel i am not be able to mount the cd or dvd's  any body helps
[17:46] <s9iper1> ?
[17:46] <Seveas> win7usr: ubuntu is free to use for any purpose
[17:46] <Seveas> afflicto: did you add a <Directory> block to grant access?
[17:46] <win7usr> Seveas but they can still cheat right
[17:46] <TehAndrewRyan> Alright |Anthony|, back
[17:46] <afflicto> Seveas: I copied the default one so yes.
[17:47] <|Anthony|> TehAndrewRyan, ohai
[17:47] <afflicto> I just changed directory directive to /home/afflicto/public_html
[17:47] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: Hai, so what channel on esper?
[17:47] <Seveas> afflicto: pastebin the vhost definition
[17:47] <|Anthony|> probably #bukkit
[17:48] <jrib> win7usr: what sort of cheating are you hoping to prevent?
[17:48] <aFeijo> jrib,it is in my language but you probably can get the picture http://pastebin.com/EWjrqrY8
[17:48] <afflicto> Seveas: here http://pastebin.com/UdviYkUv
[17:48] <jrib> aFeijo: you omitted some output?
[17:48] <aFeijo> no
[17:49] <win7usr> jrib they will do test english test or other test so they can not surf on the internet or other bad things
[17:49] <jrib> aFeijo: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:49] <aFeijo> argh, it has only 3 comments!
[17:49] <jrib> aFeijo: :)
[17:49] <afflicto> Seveas: that file is called "afflicto" and lies in sites-available directory. I also did a2dissite default && a2ensite afflicto
[17:49] <aFeijo> jrib, not fun :) how to restore it?
[17:50] <aFeijo> found something
[17:50] <aFeijo> 1 min
[17:50] <Seveas> afflicto: yes, that should do the trick. What's in apache's error log?
[17:50] <afflicto> Seveas: where is the log file?
[17:50] <jrib> aFeijo: the link ubottu gave earlier should say
[17:50] <Seveas> afflicto: /var/log/apache2
[17:52] <aFeijo> jrib, done! thanks :)
[17:54] <afflicto> Seveas: [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[17:57] <alainus> hi .. how do i locate where an application binary resides? I'd like to add sublime text as default editor for filezilla but i can't find it in the filesystem
[17:58] <jrib> alainus: probably /usr/bin/ .  You can use "dpkg -L PACKAGE | grep bin" if you need more help
[17:58] <maveas_> After a few upgrades on 13.04 Unity - or something else? - starts failing. During successfull login (correct password) I'm been logged out of my desktop session and directed to the login screen again. Any ideas what might be wrong? (Noticed some error with gconf and dbus but I'm not that into those things)
[17:58] <Seveas> afflicto: nothing for index.html?
[17:58] <jrib> !13.04 | maveas_
[17:59] <CatKiller> alainus: whereis <app>
[17:59] <alainus> jrib, that gives me 4 different results, are they the same ?
[17:59] <maveas_> Seveas, thanks
[17:59] <jrib> alainus: what results?
[17:59] <alainus> Catbuntu, that worked, thanks!
[17:59] <hunterspy> heil
[18:00] <Seveas> afflicto: what's in access.log for index.html or /
[18:00] <hunterspy> lets fuck microsoft
[18:00] <mooman> test
[18:01] <jrib> hunterspy: please mind the language
[18:01] <Seveas> hunterspy: let's not. Instead, let's behave like normal humans in here.
[18:01] <Tex_Nick> !language | hunterspy
[18:01] <afflicto> Seveas: 127.0.0.1 - - [11/Mar/2013:18:46:40 +0100] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 403 500 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu Chromium/24.0.1312.56 Chrome/24.0.1312.56 Safari/537.17"
[18:02] <Seveas> afflicto: that's favicon.ico again. Does that file exist?
[18:02] <jrib> afflicto should just pastebin all of error.log
[18:02] <Seveas> afflicto: what jrib says. And access.log too
[18:04] <irv> hmm.. server unexpectedly rebooted. lost my bash history, is there anywehre it can be recovered from?
[18:04] <irv> i'm just looking for one particular recent entry
[18:04] <jrib> alainus: if you know the command then using whereis (or "type") like CatKiller suggested is the right way; I had assumed you were just using the gui to open sublime and didn't know the name of the command as well
[18:04] <TheOnlyJoey> Ohai, i am currently installing 12.10 on a system, but it appears that none of the nvidia-glx drivers in the repo are working for the Nvidia G 100 card, Nvidia lists is as supported in every driver, but it can not load the module
[18:04] <afflicto> Seveas: ok
[18:04] <Seveas> irv: if it's not in ~/.bash_history and wasn't a sudo command, it's gone
[18:05] <jrib> irv: why do you want it?
[18:05] <CatKiller> irv: How about "history"?
[18:06] <irv> seems to just be accessing /home/user/.bash_history
[18:06] <irv> :(
[18:06] <irv> and it's not in there
[18:06] <alainus> jrib, oh, thanks for the tip anyway
[18:07] <isaiah_> helloo
[18:07] <CatKiller> irv: Ah well :p
[18:07] <afflicto> pastebin and pastie not working I'm killing myself
[18:08] <pianogmx> well earlier i posted on how I was having troubles with "sudo apt-get update" not working on campus... just got done talking with IT saying they knowingly blocked the ports for those requests on campus EVEN THOUGH to throttle downloads but yet on the flip side, windows updates works flawlessly (i thought they were throttling down speed again) ???
[18:08] <irv> yeahhh. oh well, indeed :P
[18:08] <irv> i'll remake the command and write it down this time :P
[18:08] <irv> thx all
[18:09] <esing> How do I install ultrastar on ubuntu 12.10?
[18:10] <jrib> afflicto: there's always paste.ubuntu.com
[18:10] <Scunizi> what's the name of the package that contains "network-tools"?
[18:10] <esing> Scunizi, nettool?
[18:11] <guigouz> hello, I just installed ubuntu on a 2010 macbook pro, installation went fine, but I cannot boot, GRUB loads, kernel starts loading (ubuntu splash appears), the screen blanks almost immediatelly and the system hangs, anyone seen a similar situation ?
[18:11] <afflicto_> god damn
[18:11] <Scunizi> esing: thanks that was close enough I could find it.. it's actuallygnome-nettool
[18:11] <afflicto_> Seveas: ok access log http://justpaste.it/261h
[18:11] <LoRez> can anybody decode this and tell me why my UEFI system won't boot?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605363/  I just get a blinking cursor in the upper left and that's it.
[18:11] <jrib> that looks "readable"
[18:12] <afflicto_> Seveas: and error log http://justpaste.it/261i
[18:12] <Seveas> afflicto_: that's unreadable. Please use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:12] <moultonr> I have java7 set up, and now that I've done an update several of the links in /etc/alternatives point to files in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386.  Is there no oracle version of these, or do I have to re-route them?  The app I run REQUIRES (no matter how much I bark up developers' trees) Oracle java, bugs and exploits and all.
[18:12] <afflicto_> Seveas: ok error log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605477/
[18:13] <afflicto_> Seveas: access log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605479/
[18:13] <jrtappers> What is the command to reset Xorg?
[18:14] <jrib> jrtappers: to restart it you mean?
[18:14] <jrtappers> no, reset, remove all config
[18:14] <jrib> jrtappers: how did you configure it?
[18:14] <jrtappers> I can't get it to start, I updated with sudo apt-get upgrade and now it wont start
[18:15] <jrib> afflicto: out of curiosity, what does "ls -ld / /home /home/afflicto /home/afflicto/public_html" return?
[18:15] <jrtappers> So im trying to fix it
[18:15] <jrib> jrtappers: what happens now?  You didn't make any config change?  Only ran an update?  What drivers do you have and how did you install them?
[18:15] <Seveas> afflicto_: ok. That log does not match what the config says should happen. Could you run this and pastebin the output: find /etc/apache2 | xargs more | cat
[18:15] <Seveas> (yes, that more|cat thing is intentional)
[18:16] <squig> so should I be using aptitude or apt-get these days?
[18:16] <jrtappers> jrib, I had a Saphire Radeon 7770, running the beta prop drivers, but the update killed it, im trying to fix it
[18:16] <Seveas> squig: whatever you want
[18:16] <jrib> squig: if you're using multiarch before 12.10, you shouldn't use aptitude
[18:17] <afflicto_> jri: this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605492/
[18:17] <squig> jrib, thanks, thats my answer on 12.04 :D
[18:17] <jrtappers> jrib, Is there a way to get rid of the ATI drivers quickly? I think that they are having problems, log files don't show any errors that are serious
[18:17] <jrib> afflicto_: so you never ran that chmod command that Seveas gave you?
[18:17] <jrib> jrtappers: how did you install the drivers originally?
[18:18] <jrtappers> The install.sh from thier site
[18:18] <jrib> jrtappers: you probably need to install them again
[18:18] <verzx> What would the best way to install all the backtrack 5 r3 tools on ubuntu?
[18:18] <jrib> jrtappers: I've never used ati's drivers
[18:18] <afflicto_> jrib: uh I think so?
[18:18] <jrtappers> jrib, that may be difficult, from command line
[18:18] <afflicto_> Seveas: it outputs this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605497/
[18:19] <jrib> jrtappers: why?  Didn't you run install.sh from a terminal in the first place?
[18:19] <Seveas> afflicto_: never mind that. your file permissions are messed up *AS I SAID HALF AN HOUR AGO*. YOu failed to follow the simplest instructions...
[18:19] <jrib> afflicto_: chmod a+x /home/afflicto
[18:19] <jrtappers> jrib, il try to find it
[18:20] <Seveas> *sigh*
[18:20] <jrib> jrtappers: I don't know how the ati drivers work, but if you rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf that may get you back into X (without ATI's drivers)
[18:20] <afflicto_> omg it works
[18:20] <jrtappers> Tried that, trying install.sh again
[18:21] <afflicto_> All the tutorials and guides I read for doing this thing never mentioned file permissions at all though :S
[18:21] <JillesCode> Hey guys, I have a problem, I need to turn of my wireless network interface before actually starting the OS, I know the command (iwconfig wlan0 power off) but how do I get my ubuntu to execute that before booting?
[18:21] <Seveas> afflicto_: because that's a basic linux skill...
[18:22] <JillesCode> Well not completely turn off, turn of the power management
[18:22] <jrib> jrtappers: there might be some hints on the wiki that give you a better way to setup your drivers so they don't constantly break when you get a kernel upgrade
[18:22] <verzx> Is there a way to upload txt files to pastebinit for example, document.txt |pastebinit
[18:22] <afflicto_> Seveas: yea I guess so
[18:22] <jrib> !ati > jrtappers
[18:22] <jrib> verzx: I think that exact syntax works?
[18:22] <Tbone> Hello
[18:22] <jrtappers> Ok, I think I have an idea that may work
[18:23] <verzx> jrib: Lmao. Oh. I'll try it.
[18:23] <Tbone> Who speak french ?
[18:23] <DJones> !fr | Tbone
[18:23] <anonymous_>  
[18:23] <jrib> verzx: well, cat document.txt | pastebinit.  Or better: pastebinit < document.txt.  I don't have its man page handy, but I think that works.  If it doesn't, let me know and I'll go find the man page
[18:23] <anonymous_> hi
[18:24] <Tbone> Ok bye !
[18:24] <atxq> how can I add the option to right click menu to "send file" as an email?
[18:24] <jrib> verzx: reading the man page, those examples should work.  You can also use "pastebinit -i filename" apparently
[18:25] <verzx> jrib: Yeah cat works, ahh right i'll try that too thanks for your help :)
[18:25] <jrtappers> For anyone in the same situation, I ran /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall --force as root, it fixed the problem
[18:27] <dveim> hello
[18:28] <dveim> does anyone know, why pypy/python leave a process after executing?
[18:29] <Seveas> dveim: what do you mean with that?
[18:29] <keldwud> hmm, read guidelines before asking questions, or jump in feet first and assume that guidelines are generally just "don't be a dick"
[18:30] <Seveas> keldwud: that and 'mind the language'
[18:30] <linux-web> hai all
[18:30] <keldwud> Seveas, okay :)
[18:30] <linux-web> hai all
[18:30] <linux-web> salam kenal
[18:30] <linux-web> semua
[18:30] <linux-web> Im from indonesia
[18:30] <keldwud> I'll wait until linux-web is done with his greetings and a/s/l before I ask my question
[18:30] <dveim> Seveas: i mean, when i start python or pypy interpreter, and it finishes, i still have a process eating my memory
[18:30] <linux-web> Im from indonesia
[18:30] <Seveas> linux-web: that's nice. Please be aware that this is a support channel, not a chat channel.
[18:31] <Seveas> linux-web: you may be looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <Seveas> keldwud: just ask :)
[18:31] <linux-web> maaf saya baru belajar ( Im newbe)
[18:31] <Seveas> dveim: that's definitely not supposed to happen. How are you sure it's the same process and not something else running in the background? Is this an ubuntu application or something else?
[18:32] <Seveas> !id | linux-web
[18:32] <keldwud> I'm having mouse issues with 12.10. Pointer drags similar to the ice levels in mario. nothing happens on first movement but then it starts slowly sliding. Rebooting does not resolve. Using mouse and touchpad GUI settings does not resolve (i.e. http://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg622042.html), using xset *does* change the behavior slightly, but the "stickiness"
[18:33] <keldwud> still persists, it just moves really fast after "unsticking"
[18:33] <keldwud> reinstalling resolved the issue temporarily, known good mouse exhibits same behavior
[18:33] <linux-web> gmna tuh
[18:33] <keldwud> and the search terms I have used have turned up very littls
[18:34] <Seveas> keldwud: try googling 'ubuntu mouse acceleration'
[18:34] <keldwud> Seveas: I did both mouse acceleration and pointer acceleration :)
[18:34] <Seveas> and/or wait for someone in here to have a stroke of brilliance. Sadly I don't have one
[18:34] <keldwud> one other thing, I have been using synergy.
[18:34] <keldwud> and I have removed the package
[18:35] <dveim> Seveas: for example, i run python. Then i exit python. But that python process is still in list of processes. I am sure, that it is not running in the background
[18:35] <Seveas> synergy should not affect that, especially if it's gone. Any usb errors in dmesg?
[18:35] <keldwud> and the other thing is that both times the issue appeared, it happened after a weekend away from the computer
[18:35] <Seveas> dveim: how do you exit it?
[18:35] <keldwud> Seveas: checking
[18:36] <keldwud> dmesg looks okay
[18:36] <keldwud> I see where I switched out with a different mouse
[18:36] <nomike> hi
[18:36] <keldwud> unfortunately, I do not know enough about linux or ubuntu to know what controls the mouse
[18:36] <hlysig> Hi all. Do you guys know of any tutorial for installing oracle java6 jdk on Ubuntu?
[18:37] <dveim> Seveas: Ctrl + Z with python, no special exit for pypy
[18:37] <Akiva-Mobile> Im a new programmer, and I have a question
[18:37] <tgm4883> dveim, that isn't how you exit
[18:37] <Seveas> dveim: that explains, and it tells me you're a windows user :)
[18:38] <Akiva-Mobile> Are debian packages interpreted or compiled?
[18:38] <guigouz> hlysig, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:38] <guigouz> hlysig, just change that to java6
[18:38] <dveim> Seveas: its true, i am new at ubuntu
[18:38] <tgm4883> dveim, http://superuser.com/questions/476873/what-is-effect-of-ctrl-z-on-a-unix-linux-application
[18:38] <Seveas> dveim: under linux ctrl+z suspends a process. ctrl+d signals an EOF, which python will interpret as exit
[18:38] <hlysig> guigouz: thanks a million ;)
[18:38] <nomike> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and I'm connected to a WPA2 encrypted WLAN. Once a week the WPA2-Passphrase is changed over night. As soon as the key is changed, I'm kicked out of the WLAN and the "Authentication required" dialog box shows up.
[18:39] <dveim> tgm4883: thanks for link
[18:39] <verzx> hlysig: google search - Java8 ubuntu, installs jre and jdk.
[18:39] <hlysig> verzx: Java8?
[18:39] <ioria> hlysig: 12.10 ?
[18:39] <hlysig> Is that you yet? :)
[18:39] <hlysig> ioria: yes.
[18:39] <ioria> hlysig: try this... http://lackovic.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/how-to-install-oracle-java-6-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[18:39] <hlysig> I think that the link from guigouz is doing the trick.
[18:39] <nomike> My problem is, however, that at this moment my workstation is unattended until next morning. After...i don't know....5 minutes or so, the same dialog shows up again. When I'm back in the office, I have ~100 dialog boxes on my screen telling me to enter the WLAN passphrase...
[18:40] <matelko> Hi. How to switch to other irc channel please? I need irc.freenode.net now. I have X-chat gnome.
[18:40] <keldwud> Seveas: is there another channel maybe that you could suggest where I might be able to find more information about my issue?
[18:40] <Seveas> keldwud: #ubuntu-x comes to mind
[18:41] <matelko> Sry, I need hardware channel
[18:41] <verzx> matelko: Try using irssi, much easier to use imo. That is if you know the basic IRC commands like, /join /leave /connect :D
[18:41] <Seveas> matelko: you're on freenode. you just need to /join the channel you want I guess :)
[18:41] <matelko> Yes, I just noticed I am on freenode, sorry
[18:42] <keldwud> Seveas: thank you :)
[18:44] <matelko> I somewhere here channel about hardware? I just need to discharge capacitor and dont know how to do that...
[18:46] <Blumin> My Ubuntu install is running absurdly slow.  I suspect it's video driver related.  How would I go about fixing it?
[18:47] <Pici> matelko: ##electronics or ##hardware
[18:47] <Seveas> Blumin: why do you suspect that?
[18:47] <matelko> Pici - thank you.
[18:49] <Blumin> Seveas: Because I have a new-ish video card, am presumably running a generic driver, and I am using 3 monitors.
[18:49] <Blumin> It could be anything but that seems like a good start.
[18:50] <ioria> Blumin: try the top command
[18:50] <Seveas> Blumin: I'd start with finding out what's taking up resources. Is top saying that Xorg is using all CPU?
[18:50] <Blumin> Top command?
[18:50] <ioria> Blumin: just run 'top' in terminal
[18:50] <soliloquy1> Hi! I run ubuntu on a macbook air using refit (and a superdrive to install). I recently upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10; seemed to go fine except that when I restarted GRUB could no longer find the OS. What gives and what now?
[18:50] <Seveas> and ctrl+C to exit top
[18:51] <Blumin> Compiz is taking 80% CPU
[18:51] <Seveas> Blumin: ok, your guess was good :)
[18:51] <Seveas> what brand video card?
[18:52] <keldwud> ooh, maybe that is why my mouse has an issue
[18:52] <keldwud> what is kworker?
[18:52] <Seveas> keldwud: kernel thread
[18:52] <Blumin> ATi Radeon 7770
[18:52] <keldwud> Seveas: it shuoldn't be taking up 100% cpu, I wouldn't think
[18:52] <Seveas> !ati | Blumin
[18:53] <Seveas> keldwud: that's indeed odd
[18:54] <keldwud> I got nothin to lose by trying to kill it, I'll share what happens :)
[18:55] <squig> is there an apt-repository proxy still
[18:56] <Guest50392> any ideas about BSOD ? first time i am having this problem , and i am from xubuntu live cd now.
[18:57] <keldwud> I'm making progress: http://askubuntu.com/questions/185925/kworker-consuming-100-cpu
[18:57] <Guest50392> if anyone can help
[18:57] <Seveas> squig: there is one but I forgot the name :/
[18:57] <squig> Seveas, atp-cache-ng
[18:57] <squig> I used to use aptproxy but its gone away
[18:58] <Seveas> apt-cacher-ng actually, yes :)
[19:00] <needshelp> Anyone available to help with a login problem?
[19:00] <fbdystang> Hi, I just swapped an old CRT with a dell e177fp. It is in Dual monitor mode. The dell seems like it runs great but the screen goes black after 5 seconds. Any idea why that would happen?
[19:02] <TheOnlyJoey> Anyone experience with really slow performance on 12.10 and the latest nvidia driver?
[19:03] <TheOnlyJoey> slow as in, fullscreen youtube video is not watchable
[19:04] <lighthammer> question: Trying to install a backtrack5r3 - receiving error : "io error : problem may be caused by faulty CD/ dvd or you HDD may be faulty " - currently booting off a USB drive - and the installation stops at 23% every time .. any suggestions
[19:04] <ioria> TheOnlyJoey: did you deactivate hardware acceleration ?
[19:04] <ev0lve> needshelpneedshelp
[19:04] <TheOnlyJoey> ioria: i did not even know that was a option
[19:04] <ev0lve> err -
[19:04] <TheOnlyJoey> so no, not that i am aware off
[19:04] <ev0lve> needshelp: shoot
[19:04] <xangua> !backtrack | lighthammer
[19:04] <keldwud> what would be the ubuntu equivalent of /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf?
[19:04] <TheOnlyJoey> ioria: good idea to try the edgers ppa?
[19:05] <Seveas> keldwud: the same
[19:05] <ioria> TheOnlyJoey: right click on youtube video and uncheck the box
[19:05] <keldwud> hmm, I don't have one
[19:05] <_raven> i need a script that monitors a folder for new files and writes the paths to files from 1.txt to 4.txt. always one line and repeating 123412341... how to do it best?
[19:05] <keldwud> that's why I was wondering
[19:05] <Seveas> keldwud: you have a text editor :)
[19:05] <keldwud> oh I can just create it? ok :)
[19:05] <needshelp> Thanks, ev0lve!  There's something wrong with my profile.  I can't log in in any GUI, but I can log in in the console.  Guest account is fine.  I *think* the last thing I did was apt-get update&upgrade.
[19:06] <TheOnlyJoey> ioria: its enabled
[19:06] <TheOnlyJoey> also tried with Sauerbraten (same test i do with all my installs since 2004) and it is horribly slow
[19:06] <ioria> TheOnlyJoey:  Un-check
[19:06] <soliloquy1> Hi! I run ubuntu on a macbook air using refit (and a superdrive to install). I recently upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10; seemed to go fine except that when I restarted GRUB could no longer find the OS. What gives and what now?
[19:06] <TheOnlyJoey> ooh
[19:06] <TheOnlyJoey> sorry lets see
[19:07] <lighthammer> xangua: thx
[19:07] <TheOnlyJoey> ioria: still slow
[19:07] <jiem> TheOnlyJoey : You use optimus nvidia technology ?
[19:08] <keldwud> oh darn. other user reports that not having the file originally and then creating the file with the required options did not resolve the issue
[19:08] <fbdystang> Hi, I just swapped an old CRT with a dell e177fp. It is in Dual monitor mode. The dell seems like it runs great but the screen goes black after 5 seconds. Any idea why that would happen?
[19:08] <TheOnlyJoey> jiem: no, a regular desktop card
[19:09] <TheOnlyJoey> jiem: wierdly enough none of the ubuntu repo nvidia drivers worked, so tried the latest from the nvidia website, which is working but with horrible performance
[19:09]  * keldwud does a little victory fanfare dance
[19:09] <keldwud> added in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf :  options drm_kms_helper poll=N; rebooted, issue appears to be resolved.
[19:10] <Blumin> How do I fix Ubuntu turning off num lock every time I reboot?
[19:10] <needshelp> ev0lve: I'm using the latest LTS release.  All updates installed.
[19:11] <ioria> TheOnlyJoey:  try free -m to check the ram
[19:12] <jiem> TheOnlyJoey : try to uninstall nvidia-driver and try sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[19:12] <jiem> sudo apt-get update
[19:12] <jiem> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:12] <jiem> sudo reboot
[19:12] <FloodBot1> jiem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <ssvss_> Hi, just installed ubuntu 12.10. any recommendations for clipboard manager.
[19:12] <jiem>  sudo apt-get update     sudo apt-get install nvidia-current      sudo reboot
[19:12] <TheOnlyJoey> jiem: sure, lets see
[19:13] <ro_> ondasurlalinea
[19:13] <xangua> ssvss_: glippy has lots of features, or it can be as simple as you want :) https://launchpad.net/glippy
[19:15] <Seveas> Blumin: check the keyboard setting in the system settings thing
[19:17] <needshelp> ev0lve: Any other information you need?
[19:21] <jjeronimo> I messed up my /etc/asound.conf
[19:22] <jjeronimo> can somebody please post the default one on pastbin
[19:22] <TheOnlyJoey> jiem: hmm performance is slightly better, but i think the main problem has to do with support for the card
[19:23] <TheOnlyJoey> was a lot better on 11.04 though
[19:24] <ssvss_> xangua: Thanks, glippy works fine. are there any clipboard managers in which I can search from the clipboard contents. something like Ctrl+R in bash.
[19:24] <nerder> hello
[19:25] <nerder> i i have some problem with unebootin
[19:25] <nerder> *problems
[19:25] <abailarri> buenas. Quiero instalar un ubuntu en un portatil nuevo (Asus F55A), pero soy incapaz de acceder a la bios para seleccionar el boot device. Se han puesto muy cabrones los de windows o que?
[19:25] <andai1> Hi there! I have a broken ubuntu installation from several years ago (not sure which version). I want to replace it with the newest ubuntu. What's the best way to do this? Can I just keep the home dir in the same place? ( it's not on a separate partition )
[19:25] <ax> what is the battery status indicator app called with the new window manager?  12.10?
[19:26] <xangua> ssvss_: well  you can search content in glippy with hud (press alt key) if you are using unity
[19:26] <pepee> !es | abailarri
[19:26] <nerder> i downloaded the ubuntu ISO and i wanna install that image on my USB pendrive
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> andai1: Back up the home directory, do a clean new install.  You probably don't want any of the hidden config files carrying over to the new installation.
[19:26] <carliewolf08> ubuntu 12.10  Hi I am very new to this and wanted to copy a file to my flash drive.  I don't know where to find documentation/instructions on how to do this.  I am use to windows filemanager that lists drives other than C: so I don't know how to find that in the ubuntu file manager.  It only lists files on it's operating system?
[19:26] <jiem> nerder : You use ubuntu ?
[19:26] <nerder> the unetbooin process of copy is finish with no error but the pendrive is not bootable. Some one can help me?
[19:26] <ioria> andail: there are several ways... but the best is a fresh new installation
[19:27] <nerder> i use jolicloud, is ubuntu based
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> nerder: unetbootin is meant to create a USB installer, nothing to do with the actual installation.
[19:27] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  it should show up on the left side pane of your file manager.
[19:27] <andai1> jhutchins_wk, ioria: I thought so. Thank you
[19:27] <nerder> i wanna install ubuntu on my pendrive
[19:27] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  if it has a label it will be using that name
[19:27] <carliewolf08> I didn't see it there
[19:27] <carliewolf08> ok let me check again
[19:27] <ioria> andail: you're wellcome
[19:27] <nerder> cause in this way i can use the live version wherever i wont
[19:27] <nerder> *want
[19:27] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  when i plug in a flash drive here. it even pops up a file manager window for it.
[19:28] <andai1> ioria, jhutchins_wk: can I just rename home to home2 or something like that, or do i need to get it off the partition?
[19:28] <carliewolf08> if I find it then is the copy and past the same process as in windows?
[19:28] <jhutchins_wk> andai1: If you back up the files you want to keep to another location you don't have to worry about "oops".
[19:28] <dr_willis> netsjanek:  julicloud is not ubuntu, and not really supported here.. there are tools at the pendrivelinux site to make a live session of it on a usb. you can then do a full install to a 2nd usb flash drive
[19:28] <nerder> i format my pendrive with gparted (fat32)
[19:28] <dr_willis> nerder: :  julicloud is not ubuntu, and not really supported here.. there are tools at the pendrivelinux site to make a live session of it on a usb. you can then do a full install to a 2nd usb flash drive
[19:29] <dr_willis> nerder:  the tools and installer will handle the formating
[19:29] <nerder> dr_willis, jolicloud is not ubuntu based?
[19:29] <dr_willis> nerder:  its not Ubuntu -  theres 100's of disrtos based on ubuntu that are not ubuntu.. and thus not supported here
[19:30] <dr_willis> jolicloud is about as weird a disrto as one can get.. and still claim ubuntu based..
[19:30] <dr_willis> actually its JoliOS now isent it? i havent paied attention to ut much lately
[19:30] <nerder> i thought that the ubuntu irc chan was for all the based distro as well
[19:30] <k1l> nerder: no, just original ubuntu support here
[19:31] <carliewolf08> maybe I'm not in the right program.  What is the file manager called in ubuntu?
[19:31] <dr_willis> nerder:  nope.
[19:31] <nerder> ok sorry
[19:31] <nerder> it's my fault
[19:31] <dr_willis> we cant keep up with every customuieze ubuntu variant
[19:31] <k1l> carliewolf08: nautilus, if its standard ubuntu
[19:31] <_raven> i need a script that monitors a folder for new files and writes the paths to files from 1.txt to 4.txt. always one line and repeating 123412341... how to do it best?
[19:31] <needshelp> nerder:  If you're only going to use it on one computer, you should consider Wubi.
[19:31] <dr_willis> !info fam
[19:31] <carliewolf08> ok that's not what I opened.  I'll check again Thanks
[19:31] <dr_willis> _raven:  you could use fam.. or just write a script that montiros file dates and does stuff when they change
[19:31] <k1l> needshelp: wubi :(
[19:32] <dr_willis> Im not sure jolios even has wubi.
[19:32] <ioria> nerder: no, wubi, noooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:32] <dr_willis> and wubi is best avoided
[19:32] <_raven> dr_willis could you go trough it with me i do not have any idea how to start
[19:33] <needshelp> I've done the pendrive thing, and it's very slow.  Everything takes so long.
[19:33] <dr_willis> _raven:  nope.. not really.  ive not used fam in the last 5 years.
[19:33] <dr_willis> needshelp:  do a full install to the internal hd perhaps.
[19:33] <needshelp> Although it's definitely a great asset to portability.
[19:34] <dr_willis> a Full install to a USB may be a bit faster then a live install also
[19:34] <jjeronimo> can someone please post /etc/asound.conf on pastbin for me ? It will save me allot of trouble
[19:34] <jjeronimo> thx!
[19:34] <_raven> dr_willis i mean writing the script
[19:34] <rewarp> Hi all. Random event caused my external luks-encrypted 1TB harddisk to refuse to accept the password I set for it, which I may as well add are three Japanese hiragana characters. How would I go about recovering my data?
[19:34] <jjeronimo> messed up my sound settings :(
[19:35] <dr_willis> _raven:  theres 10+ differnt languages you could be doing it in..  i rarely code any more.
[19:35] <jemark> jjeronimo: ok
[19:35] <dr_willis> _raven:  and i imagine theres tools out that do most of it allready for you
[19:35] <dr_willis> _raven:  such as 'fam'
[19:35] <_raven> dr_willis id like to do it with board tools only - no python or something else
[19:35] <dr_willis> board tools?  the term means nothing to me.
[19:36] <needshelp> Can anyone else help me with my login problem, since ev0lve is away.
[19:36] <dr_willis> Hmm.. JuliOS's little JoliDrive feature dosent even support Ubuntu One...
[19:36] <carliewolf08> Help.  My system says it has nautilus installed but I can't find the application to open it when I type it in the search.  Why would that be?  I just installed ubuntu 12.10 and just getting use to it
[19:36] <_raven> dr_willis only with shell
[19:37] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  double click any folder icon and it should launch it.. or just run 'nautilus'
[19:37] <dr_willis> _raven:  you mean you want to do it only with 'bash' scripting?
[19:37] <dr_willis> !abs | _raven
[19:37] <carliewolf08> I typed in nautilus and it didn't come up
[19:37] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  its a default installed ubuntu app...
[19:37] <dr_willis> !find nautilus
[19:38] <dr_willis> !info nautilus
[19:38] <Akiva-Mobile> Are debian packages interpreted or compiled when they are installed?
[19:39] <Seveas> Akiva-Mobile: neither.
[19:39] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, decompressed and copied
[19:39] <jemark> jjeronimo: http://dpaste.com/1019738/
[19:39] <carliewolf08> yes Dr Willis it says it is installed but when I search for the application it doens't come up from my dashboard.  It's not even listed.  I assumed that it might not be on the system but then when I checked software center it shows it as installed.
[19:39] <jjeronimo> jemark: thx allot!
[19:39] <Akiva-Mobile> I don't understand. Is there not only two ways to install and run a program on a computer? pepee Seveas?
[19:39] <xubuntu_> hello anyone can help with blue screen problem?
[19:40] <Akiva-Mobile> ie, to either have it compiled before hand, or interpreted on the go?
[19:40] <ioria> carliewolf08: try from the terminal :P
[19:40] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, a package in a bunch of compressed files
[19:40] <dr_willis> !apt | Akiva-Mobile
[19:40] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, compressed beforehand, from canonical
[19:41] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  open a terminal.. and type 'nautilus'
[19:41] <Seveas> Akiva-Mobile: a debian package consists of files. Some packages contain compiled binaries, some contain interpreted scripts. And then there's all the other files like images, docs etc.
[19:41] <xubuntu_> any hel phere?
[19:41] <xubuntu_> help*
[19:41] <ioria> Akiva-Mobile: they are binaries, i think
[19:41] <Pici> !details | xubuntu_
[19:41] <andai1> jhutchins_wk: OK i backed up the important stuff. What's the best way to keep it on the drive when I do a fresh install? ( I have only one partition ). Should I change the name from home to something else? What does the installer do with random folders in the root dir?
[19:41] <Akiva-Mobile> ioria: Okay, which would make them compiled rather than interpreted?
[19:42] <dr_willis> andai1:  the installer will want to reformat /
[19:42] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  why are you worried about this exactly
[19:42] <ioria> Akiva-Mobile: you can compile the source not the binary
[19:42] <i3ear> hey, can anyone help me? I am on a live install of xubuntu and whenever I try and unmount one of my drives so I can resize the partitions it always remounts
[19:42] <i3ear> can anyone help me?
[19:42] <xubuntu_> i just get a blue screen and now i am booting from a live cd... dont know where to start and what to do
[19:42] <i3ear> will anyone help me?
[19:43] <carliewolf08> ok found it dr willis.  I am trying to find my E drive and it is not listed in nautilus.  I was told it was suppose to be there.  Is that a hardware problem I'm having then, that the system is not recognizing the E: drive with my flashdrive?
[19:43] <ska> Somehow I lost all the dictionaries in my Dictionary applet. Is there a way to get those back?
[19:43] <ska> re-install the applet?
[19:43] <xubuntu_> i have the error code.. and the system on the drive is windows 7
[19:43] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: Developing. I understand that compiled is faster than interpreted, and if I am to develop on the ubuntu touch, I just want to know my options.
[19:43] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, it depends on the language used...
[19:43] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  the letter names are windows schemeing.. ubntu mounts devices with filesystems to directories in your /media/ directory
[19:43] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, it has nothing to do with ubuntu itself
[19:43] <e-i-k-e> hi
[19:43] <Akiva-Mobile> I am somewhat new to this, sorry dr_willis :( didnt mean to jumble up your chat.
[19:43] <dr_willis> carliewolf08:  if the filesystem is currupted or has other issues it may refuse to mount them
[19:43] <Blumin> I installed the proprietary ATi drivers and configured my monitors then rebooted, and now 2 of my monitors are white boxes, one of which doesn't let me move off of it and gives me an X for a cursor
[19:44] <carliewolf08> ok let me look there :-)
[19:44] <dr_willis> !mount | carliewolf08
[19:44] <Akiva-Mobile> pepee: The reason why I ask is because I understand that Arch compiles everything from source, ergo, is faster.
[19:44] <Pici> i3ear: how are you trying to unmount them?
[19:44] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  thats debateable.. in some other channel..
[19:44] <needshelp> carliewolf08: If the drive is readable in Windows, then it's readable in Ubuntu.
[19:45] <dr_willis> Akiva-Mobile:  if you dont compile with the proper options.. it wont be much of a gain.. or could be worse
[19:45] <pepee> Akiva-Mobile, try asking in ##linux or ##programming
[19:45] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis: Fascinating. Okay sorry, won't clog the channel anymore  :P
[19:46] <e-i-k-e> when i'm sending my notebook with 12.10 to standy it sometimes seems to go to standby but 5 seconds later it just shows the screen like when i'm opening the lid after standy. is there a way to determine what program keeps it from switching to standby?
[19:47] <needshelp> I am unable to login using the GUI, but I can login in the console.  Can someone help me to determine what's preventing me from loggin in?  Guest account works fine.
[19:47] <pepee> needshelp, do you get an error message?
[19:48] <carliewolf08> Thank you.  I'll look in the community/mount section.  Everything is so new to me, I have to get use to all these new names for things.  I'm just figuring out what the terminal is LOL.  I should have gotten out of windows years ago and I'd be rolling by now !
[19:48] <Blumin> How do I fix my monitors so that they're usable again?
[19:49] <streulma> hey, I want to run ubuntu server on my nas :)
[19:49] <streulma> is there an option for Western Digital Mybook World ? > It's now running Debian
[19:49] <ssvss_> xangua: Thanks, didn't realize what hud was for till now. it seems very useful.
[19:49] <pepee> Blumin, what graphics card?
[19:49] <needshelp> pepee: it flashes to a text-screen briefly, then returns to the login screen.  There are no errors listed before returning to the login screen.
[19:50] <Blumin> Radeon 7770
[19:50] <iceroot> streulma: normally when debian is working, ubuntu is working too (rasbperry pi is an exception)
[19:50] <ioria> needshelp:  restarting lightdm ? or gdm...
[19:50] <pepee> needshelp, graphics driver problem, I guess
[19:50] <ilikepandas> is debian recommended for a regular home user
[19:51] <iceroot> ilikepandas: #debian
[19:51] <needshelp> pepee: But the guest account logs in fine.  Is there a per-user setting file I can reset?  I already tried reinstalling/reconfiguring Xorg
[19:51] <Cinesino89> ciaooooooooo
[19:51] <Cinesino89> !list
[19:52] <needshelp> ioria:  Can you clarify, please?  How should I do that?
[19:53] <Blumin> pepee: It was working fine before I tried configuring the monitors; then it just glitched them out
[19:54] <pepee> Blumin, I'd ask in #ati
[19:54] <Qcki> needshelp, sudo service lightdm restart
[19:55] <surbs> /etc/syslog.conf does not exist, but /etc/rsyslog.conf does what is the difference?
[19:55] <i3ear> Pici, sorry sorry. I got distracted. Uhm. I have tried unmounting them using the file manager, the terminal, and gparted
[19:56] <needshelp> Qcki: Still can't log in.
[19:56] <i3ear> Pici,  you still there?
[19:57] <nailson> Anyone here still using Ubuntu 11.10??
[19:58] <surbs> is it because i have to install sysklogd or does rsyslogd provide adequate functionality?
[19:58] <jrib> !ask | nailson
[19:59] <nailson> !ask | nailson
[19:59] <jrib> surbs: what functionality are you looking for?
[19:59] <jrib> nailson: just ask your real question
[19:59] <nailson> !ask does anyone still using ubuntu 11.10?
[20:00] <Blumin> jrib: I don't think he was asking for support; his real question may have been asking chat whether they still use 11.10
[20:00] <jrib> nailson: assume yes. What is your next question?
[20:00] <streulma> ubottu: Do you know everything about Ubuntu?
[20:01] <streulma> lol
[20:01] <surbs> jrib, im trying to setup security for my personal computer and output the logs to a different location (encrypted home folder).
[20:02] <andai1> jhutchins_wk: ok so now i'm purging junk from my ( full ) home + system partition, going to delete everything except /home/, move everything from /home/ to root dir, shrink partition, create new partition for clean ubuntu install, use old partition as /home/,.. does that sound good?
[20:02] <streulma> the bot knows not everything about ubuntu :(
[20:02] <nailson> Yes Blumin, i'm here just to know how you guys are dealing with it, IMHO this version was the best one. But discontinued
[20:02] <jrib> surbs: I'd assume you can do that with rsyslog
[20:02] <needshelp> Any other ideas, guys, regarding my inability to log in?
[20:02] <andai1> jhutchins_wk: or should I create two new partitions, one for install and one for home, so the old home doesn't interfere?
[20:03] <elsias> Greeting im looking for a hand in building a ubuntu distro on a 80gigs external hard drive without compromising my current win7 os with a grub loader.
[20:03] <surbs> jrib, ok cool, thank you. maybe to enlighten me for reference later do you know what the difference between the two is? im assuming that sysklogd is for server purposes?
[20:04] <jrib> surbs: I'm not familiar with the differences; but rsyslog is default
[20:04] <Blumin> elsias: Is the drive already partitioned?
[20:04] <Hawkerz> elsias, grub won't ruin windows, but shrinking the partition has some risks
[20:04] <surbs> jrib, ok thank you! appreciate the help ;) will ask more questions if i run into any more problems ;)
[20:05] <elsias> It is an hard disk mounted in a maxtor usb hard drive case
[20:05] <Hawkerz> grub will take over the master boot record on the drive though
[20:05] <surbs> jrib, oops did a double winky face... lol
[20:05] <elsias> I basicly want to make a bigger version of a usb booter
[20:05] <Hawkerz> which is tricky to fix
[20:05] <Hawkerz> (if you want to fix it)
[20:06] <elsias> and as of now it's not partioned
[20:07] <nailson> Hey jrib, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:07] <jrib> nailson: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat please.  I don't mind discussing it there :)
[20:07] <needshelp> elsias:  You won't have to worry about grub if you're willing to use your bios option to boot off of USB every time.
[20:08] <nailson> Thank you, jrib for the patience!
[20:09] <elsias> then should i just download some kind of USB mounted ubuntu and then use my external hard drive as the target of instalation?
[20:10] <Blumin> How do I get Ubuntu to stop turning off num lock on reboot?
[20:10] <Blumin> There's no option to preserve it in keyboard settings
[20:12] <needshelp> elsias:  That should work.  Just make sure you choose the right target.
[20:12] <elsias> now to put ubuntu on a usb stick for installation.
[20:14] <surbs> jrib, may i pm you>
[20:14] <Blumin> And my pass has numbers and I type with my numpad, so it's inconvenient to have to turn it on on startup every single time
[20:14] <surbs> jrib, ?
[20:14] <andai1> copying over stuff into /home/ doesn't create new users, right?
[20:14] <sonOfRa> no
[20:15] <andai1> so... create new users... *then* replace home folders?
[20:15] <sonOfRa> what exactly do you want to do?
[20:16] <elsias> Ok thank you i will tell you how it turned out.
[20:16] <andai1> sonOfRa: uhh actually i'm trying to fix an ancient broken install by doing a clean install over it
[20:17] <Blumin> Is there even a way in stock Ubuntu to turn num lock on at startup?
[20:17] <andai1> sonOfRa: but this question was sort of unrelated... like I have collected over the years several folders from several installs like andai1, andai2, andai3 in my home folder and i'm wondering what to do with them
[20:17] <tm_> Blumin: Shouldn't there be a bios setting for that?
[20:18] <kalenjohnson> tm_, I don't think that's  a bios setting. it's a startup setting
[20:18] <tm_> Blumin: But, yes. You should be able to set it in the OS as well.
[20:19] <kalenjohnson> I know in Arch I had to set it to turn on on startup, but in Ubuntu 12.10 it gets turned on be default... at least for me
[20:19] <Blumin> tm_: Evidently Ubuntu ignores it, because it turned on by default in Windows but doesn't in Ubuntu 12.10
[20:19] <kalenjohnson> so I'm not sure what setting it is...
[20:20] <surbs> !cron
[20:20] <andai1> what's the command to find all folders that contain files of a certain extension, but not all the files themselves?
[20:22] <tm_> andai1: find? Or maybe piping locate's output through some sed or awk script?
[20:23] <andai1> tm_: i wanna find all the directories containing photos so i can back them up
[20:23] <andai1> tm_: so i'd like a list of the directories that contain jpg/jpeg files, but not a huge list of all the files
[20:24] <Macer> i'ms ure this has been asked to death.. but will ubuntu phone have a gnu userland?
[20:24] <Macer> with apt?
[20:24] <Macer> to run term apps?
[20:25] <xangua> !phone | Macer
[20:25] <Macer> oh
[20:25] <Macer> thanks
[20:26] <fbdystang> Hi, the backlight on my dual monitor turns off after 3 seconds. How can I keep it on?
[20:27] <riqdiiz> andai1: find *filename.jpg*
[20:28] <riqdiiz> could work :-)
[20:28] <ddn> hi all, had partitioned a usbdrive with one encrypted partition, however when inserted in windows it reports that needs to be formated. why?
[20:29] <doctawhoo> Can anyone help with network problems on Backtrack 5-R3?
[20:30] <tm_> andai1: OK. I think you might have to start with that huge list and apply some filtering to it. (Remove everything after last /, then pipe it through sort and uniq.)
[20:30] <needshelp> doctawhoo:  if it's not formatted ntfs or fat, windows will think it's not formatted at all
[20:30] <xangua> !backtrack | doctawhoo
[20:30] <nerder> sorry to everybody if i post in this section, i'll try to find some JoliOs irc chan but is very hard
[20:31] <nerder> anyway i think that my problem is such a general issue
[20:31] <nerder> in all distro
[20:31] <doctawhoo> Thanks
[20:31] <nerder> ubuntu based
[20:31] <riqdiiz> ddn: windows can't chit chat with encrypted drives from different system. That drive could commit suicide.
[20:32] <ddn> riqdiiz, both partitions ntfs formatted in order to be able to work this way
[20:33] <nerder> so, my problem is: when i try to make a USB bootable pendrive with Unetbootin, the process is too long, i waited all the night and after the procedure has been completed
[20:33] <Stadtpirat> Hi there. For some known reasons I won't explain, I need to refresh the time of my ubuntu 12.10 machine form time to time. I do that by setting time from 'automatic' to 'manual' and back to 'automatic'. I wonder if there is a simple console command to refresh the time
[20:33] <nerder> but when i reboot my system and try to use the pendrive like a first boot device
[20:33] <nerder> doesent work
[20:34] <AndresSM1> join #retroarch
[20:34] <AndresSM1> woops
[20:34]  * jhutchins_wk loans AndresSM1 a /
[20:34] <nerder> when i try to un-mount the pendrive there're couple of error
[20:35] <tozen> nerder: how u unmount?
[20:35] <nerder> and if i just wanna move some file like (file_name.iso) from one pc to another (OS Windows XP)
[20:35] <nerder> there're some problem
[20:35] <nerder> tozen, i unmount with the unmounting defalut procedure
[20:36] <nerder> not in the terminal with umount
[20:36] <tozen> nerder: try console and pastebin errors please
[20:36] <nerder> ok i'll try wait a mins
[20:36] <riqdiiz> ddn: and formatted using windows as some drivers fail to load if different os is used .
[20:37] <andai1> OK i figured it out. This is great. I found porn i forgot I even had.
[20:37] <nerder> tozen the command is like
[20:37] <nerder> umount /media/USB_name ?
[20:38] <tozen> nerder: sudo fdisk -l so u can see /dev/sdX where X i the number of the drive in system
[20:38] <cbar> can i mount a galaxy nexus just like a usb storage drive like in windows?
[20:39] <tozen> cbar: yes u can
[20:39] <ddn> riqdiiz, partitioned and formated from Ubuntu
[20:39] <cbar> tozen: thanks!
[20:40] <tozen> cbar: no probs
[20:40] <nerder> umount /dev/sdb1 should be possible tozen ??
[20:41] <tozen> nerder with sudo
[20:42] <nerder> i'm already root
[20:42] <nerder> (sudo -s)
[20:42] <tozen> ok
[20:42] <nerder> tozen, no error at this time
[20:42] <nerder> i dnt know why
[20:42] <jrib> surbs: sure, but for support please use the channel so that others can help
[20:43] <nerder> but is not completely unmounted cause the light still working
[20:44] <tozen> nerder: yes it is, light should to leadthis is normal procedure
[20:44] <Hyperiant> Channel #ati it's deserted; can I get support here?
[20:44] <psichas> unmout /dev/sda(x)<<x your usb number find it fdisk -l
[20:44] <dtcrshr> c@!m&7$
[20:44] <dtcrshr> oops
[20:44] <riqdiiz> ddn: also depends on type of drive  partitions  and configs .Like partitions with boot info are not user-friendly to open cmd.
[20:45] <nerder> ok, should be alright
[20:45] <nerder> but the initial question was, why the usb is not bootable if i use the correct procedure?
[20:46] <nerder> start gparted, i split the space in 2 different partition (3.80GB) the first one
[20:46] <tozen> nerder: what u've did to make it bootable?
[20:46] <psichas> maybe your bios too old run usb like bootable
[20:47] <nerder> psichas, i intall this ubuntu with an usb bootable pendrive
[20:47] <nerder> defenitly no
[20:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:47] <twist3d> nerder, was it the same drive?
[20:47] <nerder> yep the same one
[20:47] <twist3d> and your installing it onto a differnet partition but on the same computer or a different computer>
[20:47] <nerder> but i make the bootable usb in with windows
[20:48] <nerder> 2 different pc
[20:48] <streulma> to make bootable usb, use unetbootin
[20:48] <nerder> the first one is windows, is like a pc desktop
[20:48] <tm_> Stadtpirat: ntpdate - set the date and time via NTP
[20:48] <nerder> and i use Universal USB something
[20:48] <twist3d> ok, so you are running a live version of ubuntu that you started using the usb drive, you now want to load ubuntu onto a different pc, this correct?
[20:49] <tozen> nerder: sudo apt-get install unetbootin && sudo unetbootin usi this to make bootable usb
[20:49]  * OlegIvanivskyi slaps mavensk around a bit with a large trout
[20:49] <nerder> i aleready do that
[20:50] <twist3d> nerder what type of machine are you trying to load it onto?
[20:50] <Arv3n> Hello all. I just bought an open box Samsung 14" ultra book. Should I try putting Linux on it? Is it even possible?
[20:50] <twist3d> Arv3n, yes you should. yes it is.
[20:51] <Hyperiant> Compiz won't stop dying, it crashes unceasingly
[20:51] <Arv3n> twist3d: How would I go about doing it?
[20:52] <tozen> Arv3n: ubuntu.com all manuals available
[20:52] <twist3d> which series do you have?
[20:52] <Hyperiant> Arv3n: Depends if you want to save the OS and utilities on it or not
[20:53] <Arv3n> twist3d: I have the series 5 ultra
[20:53] <Arv3n> twist3d: I am not sure if it is an ultra book, but it is very thin, and has an odd.
[20:53] <twist3d> Hyperiant's statement would be the driving factor to partition or wipe.
[20:53] <twist3d> if you choose to wipe make sure you update your efi
[20:54] <Arv3n> twist3d: I have the latest bios.
[20:54] <Hyperiant> Compiz still won't load without crashing unceasingly; Ubuntu 12.10
[20:54] <twist3d> Arv3n, do you want to dual boot or replace the operating system?
[20:54] <Arv3n> twist3d: Is that the same thing? And how would I go about backing up the os and utilities..?
[20:54] <Arv3n> twist3d: I don't like dual booting so probably replace it.
[20:55] <Hyperiant> Compiz: "No composite extension" segfault; what do?
[20:55] <twist3d> Arv3n, www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-desktop-latest
[20:56] <twist3d> pretty straight forward, if you want to encrypt the entire HD, you will need to download an alternate installation
[20:58] <Arv3n> twist3d: ok. should i backup the os or anything?
[20:58] <Arv3n> twist3d: I mean.. is there anything there I need?
[20:59] <Arv3n> twist3d: I've done lots of testing with linux already just this whole uefi secure boot thing has gotten me puzzled. First laptop with it
[20:59] <twist3d> Arv3n, I would strongly recommend you back up your OS.
[20:59] <shortstraw8> I just tried to install VMware player from their website, it started to install then the screen went white (I thought it was part of the process so I waited 15 minutes then reset my computer. Any Ideas VMware is supported right? I am running ubuntu 12.04.
[21:00] <twist3d> Arv3n, select your bios to boot from cd, download ubuntu-desktop, create bootable DVD, then click click boom your their.
[21:00] <psichas> does anybody use weechat?
[21:00] <Arv3n> twist3d: Alright I will try it and get back if anything happens.
[21:01] <twist3d> shortstraw8, did you install build-essential and linux-headers?
[21:02] <shortstraw8> twist3d, No I did not know it was need, Ill try that.
[21:02] <twist3d> shortstraw8, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[21:03] <Hyperiant> Compiz returning "no composite extension" segfault in Ubuntu 12.10; how do I get my desktop back?
[21:04] <pepee> hey people, how do you reinstall and reconfigure unity completely?
[21:04] <streak_> #xbmc
[21:04] <twist3d> Hyperbyte, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm
[21:05] <jordan__> pepee, i belive you can just sudo apt-get install unity
[21:05] <streak_> Does anyone know how big the databases can get? With out the Thumbnails.... just the userdata/Database folder?
[21:06] <pepee> jordan__, that won't do anything if you already have unity...
[21:06] <Hyperiant> twist3d: no such command /etc/init.d/gdm
[21:06] <streak_> or if anyone has a large library and wouldn't mind checking for me
[21:06] <pepee> there is so many wrong things with ubuntu...
[21:07] <Hyperiant> pepee: Blame proprietary, nonstandard PC manufacturers
[21:07] <twist3d> Hyperbyte, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:08] <shortstraw8> twist3d, Thanks I just started the install again.
[21:08] <pepee> Hyperiant, no, I blame unity and canonical for hating linux and the console
[21:08] <twist3d> shortstraw8, no worries, good luck, let me know how it turns out
[21:08] <jhutchins_wk> pepee: If you don't like unity why don't you try one of teh 12+ other desktops available?
[21:09] <pepee> jhutchins_wk, I'm not using unity
[21:09] <pepee> but ask the people having lots of problems with it
[21:09] <Hyperiant> pepee: xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu, etc
[21:09] <jordan__> im useing unity with no issue
[21:09] <pepee> why don't they use another DE? because canonical says ubuntu=unity
[21:09] <jordan__> not my prefered but it has grown on me
[21:09]  * twist3d no problems with unity
[21:10] <captainlinux> Guys is it possible that latest updates have messed up some webcams on Laptops?
[21:10] <pepee> I guess you never had any problems with it...
[21:10] <Hyperiant> twist3d: no such command /etc/init.d/gdm, even with start appended
[21:11] <jordan__> o i have had issues with it but mostly from amd drivers
[21:11] <jordan__> once i stopped installing those all was good
[21:11] <brightspark> Hyperiant: sudo service gdm start
[21:11] <captainlinux> Because I did a clean install and my webcam was working until I have installed the latest stuff.
[21:12] <captainlinux> Now I'm just getting a black picture.
[21:12] <captainlinux> No matter in Skype or in Cheese.
[21:12] <Hyperiant> brightspark: unrecognized service
[21:12] <brightspark> Hyperiant: lightdm probably then, not gdm
[21:13] <Hyperiant> brightspark: job is already running
[21:13] <twist3d> Hyperiant, if that doesnt work.... try sudo apt-get install dconf-tools && sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && setsid unity
[21:14] <Hyperiant> twist3d: unable to fetch some archives
[21:15] <Hyperiant> Apt-get returns "unable to lock, are you root?"
[21:15] <twist3d> ok .. sudo apt-get install -y dconf-tools && sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && sudo setsid unity
[21:16] <Hyperiant> Compiz: "Fatal: No composite extension"
[21:17] <twist3d> you can always reload unity .... sudo apt-get install -y ubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <twist3d> ***re install
[21:18] <Hyperiant> How do I break command line processes?
[21:18] <twist3d> ctrl + c
[21:18] <Hyperiant> Segfault locked up the terminal
[21:19] <Hyperiant> "Ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version"
[21:19] <lunitik> Hyperiant, What is your actual problem? I have scrolled up but I don't see it, sorry
[21:19] <Hyperiant> lunatik: compiz segfaults and I can't get to my desktop
[21:20] <Hyperiant> It returns "no composite extension" and dies
[21:20] <lunitik> Hyperiant, I saw now, composite extension isn't there... what have you recently updated related to X?
[21:21] <Hyperiant> lunitik: Other than updating my graphics drivers I've done nothing to this otherwise clean install of Ubuntu 12.10
[21:21] <omar> using ubuntu 2d  what is type of gtk theme may i use gtk2 or 3
[21:22] <Joupi> Hyperiant : wen I have this kind of problem, go to terminal session (CTRL+SHIFT+F1 for exmple) then login and install lxde by sudo apt-get install lxde then you can login into lxde session and repair what you need like xorg.conf or whatever ...
[21:22] <Hyperiant> twist3d: Neither reinstall nor re install return as valid commands
[21:22] <streulma> Hyperiant: try to install gnome-shell, then you get Ubuntu Classic (gnome fallback)
[21:22] <lunitik> Hyperiant, That is what broke it... lsmod | grep vga ? I think you are running stock video atm
[21:23] <twist3d> Hyperiant, I was speaking of apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but lunitik is trying to find out why it broke so see if he can help you fix the problem without blowing it away
[21:23] <Hyperiant> lunatik: It returns nothing
[21:23] <omar> using ubuntu 2d  what is type of gtk theme may i use gtk2 or 3
[21:24] <lunitik> twist3d, I can't even recall what the generic vga module is called...
[21:24] <twist3d> lunitik, im checking out the man.. lets see whats in there
[21:25] <lunitik> Hyperiant, I would just remove the video drivers you upgraded, and install the old ones again
[21:25] <twist3d> the generic is called vga
[21:25] <ascorbic> Are there any applications built with Qt included by default in Ubuntu, or do they make it a point to be exclusively GTK?
[21:25] <Hyperiant> lunitik: That would be nice, but unity was unusable without the drivers, running at about 2 fps because compiz was using 100% CPU
[21:26] <lunitik> Hyperiant, out of curiosity, what does lspci say about the card?
[21:26] <lunitik> Hyperiant, Where did you get the drivers at, also?
[21:27] <cbaker> can anyone tell me what download to use if I want to try to load Ubuntu from a flash stick on my HP thin client (t5550) running a U3550 processor by Via
[21:28] <Hyperiant> lunitik: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cape Verde [Radeon HD 7700 Series]
[21:28] <twist3d> cbaker, how much ram?
[21:28] <lunitik> twist3d, His problem is not with his desktop packages, though... COMPOSITE is an extension to X which Compiz uses, but requires certain features in the hardware
[21:28] <cbaker> 512 KB I believe
[21:28] <Hyperiant> lunitik: I used the proprietary drivers provided from !ati
[21:28] <Hyperiant> !ati
[21:28] <cbaker> only thing I want is an RDP client
[21:29] <Hyperiant> Specifically, the ones binary ones specific to ATi
[21:29] <lunitik> Hyperiant, lsmod | grep fglrx ?
[21:30] <twist3d> cbaker, 12.04 should work, but what is the core operating system on the T5550, windows CE or XP?
[21:30] <Hyperiant> lunitik: 4325524     121
[21:30] <lunitik> Hyperiant, dmesg | grep -i agp to a pastebin?
[21:30] <cbaker> WinCE but I have booted from a memory stick to upgrade in the past so I was hoping to boot and run from stick for a trial
[21:31] <Hyperiant> lunitik: Should I bother?  It's just one line
[21:31] <lunitik> Hyperiant, hah, just paste here
[21:31] <cbaker> twisted, so just a 12.0.4 32 bit desktop, do I need a special flavor?
[21:32] <twist3d> ok, for a trial 12.04, 12.10 whichever you want should work.  CE should have an RDP built in though if thats what your looking for.
[21:32] <Hyperiant> [          1.433044] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[21:32] <pulec_> hi
[21:32] <pulec_> i am having a bit dual monitor issue
[21:32] <twist3d> cbaker, that should work fine
[21:32] <pulec_> on xubuntu 12.10
[21:33] <lunitik> Hyperiant, did I already ask for glxinfo | grep direct ... it looks to me like it should be working
[21:33] <pulec_> I have 1920x1080 on displayport and 1600x1200 on dvi
[21:33] <pulec_> so two xrandr commands sets maximum resolution on these monitors
[21:33] <cbaker> twisted, the CE RDP is old running RDP 6.1 or something.  Windows Server 2012 is RDP 8.0+.  Just looking at what options would be for future support of these older devices when Microsuck and HP stop supporting.
[21:33] <Hyperiant> lunitik: glxinfo is currently not installed
[21:33] <pulec_> sorry, another issue is going on there, will not complicate
[21:34] <lunitik> Hyperiant, hmm... fglrxinfo ?
[21:34] <cbaker> twisted, thanks.  if i cant get it going, I might be back.
[21:35] <Hyperiant> Everything in it looks to be in order except display:0 screen:0
[21:35] <lunitik> Hyperiant, No, that is right... is there a direct rendering line that says yes?
[21:36] <Hyperiant> lunitik: OpenGL vendor string, OpenGL renderer string, and OpenGL version string, but nothing else
[21:37] <lunitik> Hyperiant, for what its worth, those are just first display and screen on the current system, which tells me you're in X at the moment
[21:37] <lunitik> Hyperiant, none of those are it... but since you won't paste it, I have to assume it is also telling me it should work
[21:39] <lunitik> If its not the driver, and its not the desktop packages... I'm not sure where to even go from here... although if you followed this guide it says aticonfig --initial will create an xorg.conf ... can you paste that? Maybe its as simple as not loading the COMPOSITE module
[21:39] <Hyperiant> Like I said, everything looks right...
[21:40] <pulec_> hi anyone can help me with me dualscreen script on xubuntu?
[21:40] <pulec_> http://pastebin.com/pRyACnTv
[21:41] <pulec_> this works for me now, only issue is I have to go with mouse to the right from primary monitor to the monitor that is on left
[21:41] <Hyperiant> "Writing to 'etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed.  Permission denied."
[21:41] <lunitik> Hyperiant, with sudo
[21:41] <pulec_> when I set --left-of of DVI-1 the primary monitor is the on the DVI-1 which is monitor on right, which I dont want
[21:42] <lunitik> pulec_, try --right-of instead?
[21:43] <pulec_> lunitik, thats what I have in default
[21:43] <lunitik> pulec_, that isn't what you want either?
[21:43] <pulec_> but like I said i have to right of the primary monitor to go on the left screen
[21:43] <Hyperiant> lunitik: How do I paste?  I'm on a phone and it'll take me about 20 minutes to manually type it in a pastebin
[21:44] <pulec_> I want to go with mouse to the left of the monitor going to the left side...
[21:44] <Hyperiant> pulec°
[21:44] <pulec_> Hyperiant, select all on your phone and copy?
[21:44] <Hyperiant> It's on my desktop, not my phone
[21:45] <bahro> I'm having some difficulty loading a kernel module, can someone help me out with that?
[21:45] <Hyperiant> And you can change monitor orientation in the display settings in system settings, or in catalyst control center if you have proprietary drivers from AMD overtakes
[21:45] <lunitik> Hyperiant, install pastebinit and use that... then just tell me the URL
[21:45] <Hyperiant> *installed, not overtakes
[21:46] <BillyZane2> hello
[21:46] <pulec_> I cant change the orientation in the display setting, I think its a bit different on xubuntu
[21:47] <lunitik> Hyperiant, I assume though that you just ran aticonfig --initial ... can you restart the Xserver to see if that made any difference if that is so?
[21:47] <pulec_> I just installed xubuntu, I do have AMD HD 7950, no drivers though...
[21:47] <pulec_> ok
[21:47] <pulec_> oh, nothing with ati installed
[21:48] <BillyZane2> I am new to linux. I have a question regarding using the make command. Suppose I download a binary to a folder using the git clone. Now suppose I make this using the make command. Will it install in folder I downloaded the source to? What happens to the source file?
[21:48] <BillyZane2> sorry, I download a source
[21:48] <vlt> BillyZane2: Usually you want to compile ... yes
[21:49] <vlt> BillyZane2: It depends on the settings in the make file where the installation goes to.
[21:49] <BillyZane2> vlt: So the directory that the program is installed in is controlled by the program?
[21:50] <Hyperiant> lunitik: How do I run pastebinit?
[21:50] <ascorbic> BillTheButcher: Make can do a lot of different things, so the true answer is that it depends on how the makefile is written. However, for the most part, just typing 'make' will build files in the directory or subdirectories and 'make install' would put the built files in the standard system directories
[21:50] <poitre> hello when i try to install ubuntu 12.10 it doesn't recognize windows 8 and it wants to erase all disk. can someone help me?
[21:50] <BillyZane2> ascorbic: i see
[21:50] <vlt> BillyZane2: It seems common to compile everything to a local folder (as user) and then to run "make install" as root.
[21:51] <alexander_bit> Hello guys, congratulations for your contribution and help
[21:51] <BillyZane2> vlt: so compiling and making are two searate processes?
[21:51] <lunitik> Hyperiant, sorry... sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee pastebinit  (I think both sudo's are necessary since your user can't read the file it seems)
[21:51] <vlt> BillyZane2: No. Make controls the whole process.
[21:52] <vlt> BillyZane2: Or it can.
[21:52] <lunitik> I think I mean > not | too, but both should work
[21:52] <ascorbic> BillTheButcher: Compiling is usually a subset of 'making'. For most publicly-distributed applications, configuration is another important subset.
[21:52] <vlt> BillyZane2: And it fully depends on how sanely the makefile is written
[21:52] <BillyZane2> vlt: https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia <--- I am following these instructions
[21:52] <lunitik> This is the main thing I hate about sudo, polkit makes it much easier, but is harder to configure
[21:52] <BillyZane2> vlt: it says i should type make -j N
[21:53] <poitre> hello when i try to install ubuntu 12.10 it doesn't recognize windows 8 and it wants to erase all disk. can someone help me?
[21:53] <alexander_bit> I want to ask one question: I recently got a laptop with windows 7 pre-installed and i want to dual boot with Ubuntu. How can i check if windows 7 is installed in EFI mode? If it is, shouldn't there be an EFI partition on the disk? Or it's not necessary?
[21:53] <vlt> poitre: Just hit OK.
[21:53] <poitre> vlt: you are not funny
[21:53] <Hyperiant> lunitik: It didn't give me a link, just listed it in console
[21:55] <lunitik> Hyperiant, ugh... can you just sudo -i then echo /etc/X11/xorg.conf > pastebinit
[21:55] <BillyZane2> vlt: It says I have to create a path after installing, the path being export PATH="$(pwd):$PATH" <- i don't understand this well, but I think it means that the make file will install in the pwd directory, which means I need to download my make file to the directory I want it to install. is that correct?
[21:55] <ascorbic> poitre: Have you googled for how to install Ubuntu on a Windows 8 machine?
[21:55] <lunitik> Hyperiant, sudo -i takes away the need for piping and using tee, means interactive
[21:56] <vlt> poitre: It was not my intention to be. I just wanted to help you deleting Windows 8 as you had requested.
[21:56] <poitre> ascorbic: yes and i have checke also ubuntu's website. nothing works
[21:56] <poitre> vlt:i *dont* want to delte windows
[21:56] <poitre> *delete
[21:56] <poitre> *vlt: i
[21:56] <poitre> *checked
[21:56] <ascorbic> poitre: So you've disabled UEFI?
[21:56] <poitre> yes
[21:57] <poitre> and secure boot as well
[21:57] <Hyperiant> I ran "echo /etc/X11/xorg.conf > pastebinit and the console returned nothing
[21:57] <poitre> ascorbic: yes and secure boot as well
[21:57] <Hyperiant> I don't think pastebinit installed
[21:58] <Hyperiant> At least correctly
[21:58] <ascorbic> poitre: And you're saying the only option is to overwrite your entire disk?
[21:59] <poitre> ascorbic: i enabled CSM (which enables bios mode) and disabled secure boot. but still wont recognize windows 8
[21:59] <lunitik> Hyperiant, I'm dumb... in sudo -i again, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[21:59] <vlt> BillyZane2: The pwd command *p*rints the current *w*orking *d*irectory. I'm not particularly good at compiling from source.
[21:59] <poitre> ascorbic: yes ubuntu doens't recognize windows
[21:59] <ascorbic> poitre: What do you mean by "still won't recognize windows 8"? What are you expecting?
[22:00] <Hyperiant> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606149/
[22:00] <poitre> ascorbic: im expecting that ubuntu will see windows 8 and will install along it
[22:00] <BillyZane2> vlt: it's ok. thanks for trying
[22:00] <poitre> ascrbic: but the only option it ofers is ERASE DISK
[22:00] <poitre> *offers
[22:00] <BillyZane2> i'll try #julia or #linux
[22:01] <ascorbic> poitre: You're saying there's no 'Advanced' or 'Other' option?
[22:01] <poitre> ascorbi: oh yes there's that. but why it doesn't do it automaticly?
[22:02] <sternocera> Hello. I'd like to use autojump with ubuntu. I've aliased autojump as j, plus made the appropriate entry within .bashrc (source /usr/share/autojump/autojump.bash). It almost works. However, autojump now just prints the directory is ought to cd to, while not actually going through with that cd.
[22:02] <poitre> *ascorbic
[22:02] <sternocera> So this actually works: cd `j mydirectory`
[22:02] <lunitik> Hyperiant, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Composite  <-- add a section like this to the bottom, except have it say "Enable"
[22:02] <sternocera> But a simple 'j mydirectory' does not.
[22:02] <sternocera> Any ideas?
[22:02] <poitre> ascorbic: ubuntu should see windows and offer me to install along it
[22:03] <poitre> ascorbic: but it doesn't..
[22:03] <EnriqueMoreno> Hello guys. I have my Playstation conected to the aux in, and I would like to get the audio output through the speakers. I've managed to do this in Windows, but I dont know how to achieve it with Ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[22:03] <ascorbic> poitre: Why should it do that?
[22:04] <lunitik> Hyperiant, As it says though, it is enabled by default, even back then... I just don't know what else it could be because it should be working based on what I'm seeing
[22:04] <poitre> ascorbic. are you kidding? ubuntu always used to recognize windows installations and offer ot install alongiside windows
[22:04] <bahro> hey, i'm having some difficulty loading a kernel module, could someone help me?
[22:04] <poitre> *to install alongside
[22:04] <poitre> sorry for typos
[22:04] <lunitik> bahro, What is the error?
[22:04] <ascorbic> poitre: Yeah, used to. What changed?
[22:05] <bahro> lunitik: Invalid module format
[22:05] <lunitik> bahro, what are you typing?
[22:05] <bahro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606168/
[22:05] <poitre> ascorbic: so why it doesnt do it with me? thats the whole point im trying to make you understand
[22:06] <bahro> I've compiled it myself, I've checked the vermagic strings, I've checked the binary file format
[22:06] <ascorbic> poitre: It's because you're using a system that was in some sense designed to make it difficult to do what you're doing
[22:06] <Hyperiant> lunitik: I tried enabling Xinerama, which evidently disabled composite...but why isn't my system usable with xinerama instead?
[22:06] <lunitik> bahro, It wants only the module name... modprobe dpg0100
[22:07] <lunitik> Hyperiant, Wow, you took a while to throw that out there... fglrx uses another method for multi-display support
[22:07] <poitre> ascorbic: it's an ASUS Vivobook X202E (also called S200E)
[22:07] <bahro> lunitik, yeah same error
[22:07] <bahro> i was trying to make sure it was loading the module that i had just compiled.
[22:07] <lunitik> Hyperiant, xrandr replaced xinerama in like 2003
[22:07] <bahro> lunitik, there's no output in dmesg either, which seems strange
[22:07] <Hyperiant> lunitik: I'm sorry, it hadn't occurred to me that I had even changed it; it was a checkbox somewhere in the video settings
[22:08] <ascorbic> poitre: You are having problems because a relatively new system designed to prevent installation of non-Windows operating systems is requiring you to use the 'Advanced' option
[22:08] <robertzaccour> Does anyone know how I can disable my integrated webcam and use my usb one only so I can use it to chat on Omegle?
[22:09] <robertzaccour> It always uses my integrated one by default.
[22:09] <Hyperiant> lunitik: How do I switch to xrandr then?
[22:09] <lunitik> robertzaccour, throw 'blacklist <drivername' into a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ (it doesn't actually matter which, take your pick)
[22:10] <robertzaccour> lunitik, will that also disable use of my usb webcam? I don't know which one it is tbh.
[22:10] <lunitik> Hyperiant, It should be there by default, just turn xinerama off and you should be good to go, it should just know there are two monitors and they'll work
[22:10] <robertzaccour> lunitik, Do you know how to discover which driver it is?
[22:10] <lunitik> robertzaccour, well, integrated is still technically using USB... lsusb ... which looks like the integrated?
[22:10] <poitre> ascorbic: ok i will try on my own using the ADVANCED option
[22:11] <Hyperiant> lunitik: I'd love to but I don't know how to get to catalyst control center from the console
[22:11] <poitre> ascorbic: but will grub be able to boot windows on reboot?
[22:11] <FLeiXiuS> Any idea about before_filters in migrations?
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Lunar_Lamp, lsusb
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[22:11] <robertzaccour> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b374 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[22:11] <FloodBot1> robertzaccour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <lunitik> Hyperiant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/14780/how-can-i-disable-xinerama
[22:12] <robertzaccour> I knew flood bot would come at me, but that was faster than having to paste elsewhere and copy the link.
[22:12] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Sorry, I didn't expect you to paste that
[22:12] <ascorbic> poitre: Others have managed to get it to work and have posted guides and documentation online. I cannot speak for your system. I'm stubborn enough that I would have just returned the system and complained about the UEFI
[22:13] <lunitik> robertzaccour, I'm not sure it let you stay long enough to see both webcams
[22:13] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Going to have to pastebin anyway
[22:13] <robertzaccour> lunitik, I have one of them unplugged
[22:14] <robertzaccour> lunitik, Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b374 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd  was the only other one
[22:14] <robertzaccour> lunitik, I currently have my voice mic and hd pvr plugged in
[22:14] <robertzaccour> I'll unplug those and try again
[22:15] <robertzaccour> same thing Lunar_Lamp
[22:15] <robertzaccour> same thing lunitik
[22:15] <lunitik> robertzaccour, lsmod | grep uvcvideo
[22:16] <BigTyroneYall> hey yall
[22:16] <BigTyroneYall> anyone be needin help?
[22:16] <lunitik> robertzaccour, That can't be the external cam that you just plugged back in... it is the same bus, device, and ID
[22:16] <robertzaccour> lunitik, http://pastebin.com/wRJttrBc
[22:17] <lunitik> robertzaccour, If both webcams are the same, we can't blacklist the driver or do anything else with it because they're the same thing according to the kernel
[22:17] <tama> Does anyone succeed installing Canon IP2770 via samba? I've able to make it work on this computer but it seems others can't use it. It always "Idle - Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)", even after I add ppd file that I got from the internet. Both machines are ubuntu 12.04. Thanks before. :)
[22:17] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Please pastebin your complete lsusb with the webcam plugged in and not plugged in
[22:18] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Sorry, but what you're telling me currently can't be true, so I want to understand better what is happening
[22:18] <robertzaccour> lunitik, unplugged http://pastebin.com/w2FhFQAM
[22:19] <lunitik> ok, now plugged in?
[22:19] <mg__> after I upgraded from Lucid Lynx to Precise Pangolin I don't get the Unity desktop in my main user account (but I do see Unity in the guest account)
[22:20] <robertzaccour> lunitik, plugged http://pastebin.com/j7buidZq
[22:21] <robertzaccour> lunitik, I remember there's a way to disable it in windows.
[22:21] <lunitik> robertzaccour, unplug and plug back in, then give me dmesg  | tail -n10
[22:22] <robertzaccour> lunitik, http://pastebin.com/zeAAF68t
[22:23]  * lunitik is confused
[22:24] <Yakko> hey guys, I'm setting up a server and I just created a new user bob, but every shell line starts with a $, how can they start with root@server1:/home/bob# instead?
[22:24] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Do you have another webcam by chance? This is wacky
[22:24] <BigTyroneYall> Yakko: are you using bash?
[22:24] <robertzaccour> lunitik, nope that's it.
[22:24] <MoPac> mg__: do you have a different desktop on there, or is this a case where you don't have any launcher or panel or window management at all?
[22:24] <BigTyroneYall> You need to edit your .bashrc
[22:24] <Yakko> BigTyroneYall: what do I need to pu thtere?
[22:25] <BigTyroneYall> I'm not exactly sure
[22:25] <robertzaccour> lunitik, which part can't be true? I did lsusb both plugged in and unplugged
[22:25] <Yakko> BigTyroneYall: oh, the file was empty :o
[22:25] <BigTyroneYall> heh
[22:25] <Yakko> BigTyroneYall: is there a way to run useradd so it creates it for me?
[22:25] <BigTyroneYall> you could make a adduser shell script
[22:26] <BigTyroneYall> which copies a default .bashrc
[22:26] <BigTyroneYall> to the user's ~/
[22:26] <MoPac> Is something hammering launchpad or canonical right now?  My package update transfer speeds are like 24k/s
[22:26] <r3m> clear
[22:26] <BigTyroneYall> so you would run useradd
[22:26] <BigTyroneYall> and then adduser
[22:26] <mg__> MoPac: it looks like my old Gnome desktop, but it is not very functional. I don't see the top bar with battery, network icon etc. Also the wireless network didn't work (it worked off the bat in the guest account).
[22:26] <lunitik> robertzaccour, well, it never registers on the system because of the clash... they're both the same model cam, so the kernel is getting confused it looks like
[22:26] <Pinkamena_D> (i am sorry i keep asking this once in a while, i am hoping i will catch someone who has done it) Does anyone know how to replace the textures and overlay for the scroll bars in unity?
[22:26] <mg__> Also, I couldn't move or resize windows.
[22:27] <MoPac> mg__: I had a problem like this after I upgraded from quantal to raring.  It turned out that for some reason the Ubuntu Unity plugin had been disabled in compliz
[22:27] <robertzaccour> lunitik, Guvcview recognizes the difference though.
[22:27] <lunitik> robertzaccour, We can't stop it loading one cams drivers because they both use the same driver
[22:27] <robertzaccour> lunitik, Oh I have an idea
[22:27] <robertzaccour> lunitik, what if I have the integrated one running, so that Omegle has no choice but to use the other one?
[22:27] <MoPac> mg__: If you have the compiz settings manager program, you can go in there, click the unity plugin, and check to enable it, if that's what's going on
[22:27] <sirrab> Good afternoon fellow Ubuntites
[22:28] <jrib> Yakko: # is usually used to indicate a root shell.  It may be confusing to make that default.  Also, you should in general be using "adduser" instead of "useradd" to create users
[22:28] <lunitik> robertzaccour, hmm, actually, ls /dev/video*
[22:28] <mg__> MoPac: I can do this from the Gust account and it will work on my main account?
[22:28] <lunitik> robertzaccour, is there 0 and 1 there?
[22:28] <robertzaccour> lunitik, my idea worked :-) I had the integrated cam running in Guvcview, so Omegle didn't recognize it because it was in use, leaving the USB one to pick up and it did.
[22:28] <MoPac> mg__: I would advise doing it in the main account.  It should still be possible even without unity running to use the program
[22:29] <sirrab> Any LVM experts in the house?
[22:29] <lunitik> robertzaccour, Then you can just point flash at /dev/video1
[22:29] <mg__> MoPac: OK, thanks. I will try it.
[22:29] <Pinkamena_D> How about just themes in general, has anyone done any theme editing for unity before?
[22:29] <robertzaccour> lunitik, I don't know, but I figured it out
[22:29] <MoPac> mg__: you can ctrl-alt-t and then either install the package from command line or issue the command "firefox" to open the browser, etc
[22:29] <MoPac> mg__: the program is called CCSM, I think
[22:29] <Pinkamena_D> if not, is their another window manager without unity which theme editing is more widely known about?
[22:30] <robertzaccour> lunitik, I opened guvcview, used the integrated cam, doing so made Omegle not recognize it because it was currently being used, and it picked up my USB cam.
[22:30] <lunitik> robertzaccour, can you still tell me the result of ls /dev/video* ... can just use based on device then, less annoying then your work around I think
[22:30] <robertzaccour> lunitik, unplugged right?
[22:30] <lunitik> robertzaccour, no
[22:31] <robertzaccour> lunitik, /dev/video0  /dev/video1
[22:31] <lunitik> robertzaccour, ok... video0 is the integrated, video1 is the USB
[22:31] <lunitik> robertzaccour, in flash, you can select which one when it asks for permission, all other apps will allow you to set which one to use
[22:32] <macsim> hi anybody use titanium studio on ubuntu here ?
[22:32] <robertzaccour> lunitik, oh ok thanks. How do I disable the integrated one?
[22:32] <lunitik> robertzaccour, You still can't because they're using the same driver
[22:32] <karsten> greetings to all
[22:32] <izx> How do i add a network printer in ubuntu 12.10 ???
[22:32] <karsten> may i ask a Lubuntu question here?
[22:32] <robertzaccour> lunitik, oh ok. Well if I can't do it in flash then I got my workaround. Thanks bro.
[22:33] <sirrab> Hello
[22:33] <lunitik> karsten, I think you just did
[22:33] <karsten> ahahah :)
[22:34] <lunitik> karsten, if it is something about the interface, maybe not many can answer, but you can try
[22:34] <karsten> it's just that i'm at my very first linux experience and i do guess there's an lubuntu specific channell somewhere
[22:34] <sirrab> Any LVM experts?
[22:34] <captainlinux> izx: If the vendor of your printer supports linux or if there is a driver, which is compatible with your printer, you can just go ahead, install the driver and setup your printer via System Settings > Printers.
[22:34] <lunitik> karsten, There is, but many here have used LXde at least
[22:34] <lunitik> sirrab, What is the question?
[22:35] <karsten> well i'm wondering how i can check what the system running that it eats 300mbs of run from the very boot
[22:35] <sirrab> I'm trying to add another 3TB HDDD to my Movies VG
[22:35] <lunitik> karsten, top
[22:36] <lunitik> karsten, hit q to exit
[22:36] <NaCl1> Greetings.  Any btrfs-aware persons around?
[22:36] <MoPac> karsten: Do you mean that it's eating ram?
[22:36] <Yakko> BigTyroneYall: hey, do you know what I need to edit on .bashrc ?
[22:36] <karsten> i did use top but it makes no sense for it does not actually account for all the used ram
[22:36] <lunitik> NaCl1, I know enough to not use it on a desktop, that probably isn't helpful though
[22:36] <mg__> MoPac: disabled unity plugin is certainly the problem. I got another problem with citserver. I got to go now, but you pointed me at the right thing, thanks
[22:37] <MoPac> mg__: excellent; good to hear
[22:37] <EnriqueMoreno> Hello guys. I have my Playstation conected to the "aux in", and I would like to get the audio output through the speakers. I've managed to do this in Windows, but I dont know how to achieve it with Ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[22:38] <karsten> MoPac, i guess so, if i look at top i should be using like 30% of my ram but if i look at the figures i use 90%
[22:38] <NaCl1> lunitik: Heh…I have it set up for my NAS.  Seems to be working ok, w/one caveat that I have been working around thus far.  I've been wanting to get some clarity and 'fix' it.
[22:38] <lunitik> NaCl1, try in #ubuntu-server maybe, unless you want to provide details here, but I can't assure you I will know the answer
[22:39] <MoPac> karsten: !ram
[22:39] <lunitik> NaCl1, I think there is even a #btrfs though
[22:39] <MoPac> drat, how do you get ubottu to say something?
[22:39] <karsten> MoPac, not found
[22:39] <NaCl1> lunitik:  OH!  Well then, I'll just go there.  Thanks!
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> MoPac: Use the !
[22:40] <lunitik> NaCl1, Yup, around 250 ppl
[22:40] <MoPac> karsten:  If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.ne…e-mem.html
[22:40] <MoPac> SonikkuAmerica: was there something wrong with my syntax above when I said !ram ?
[22:40] <elisa87> hi do you know the reason I am receiving these errors in my make ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606250/
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !ram
[22:40] <karsten> thanks for the heads up MoPac
[22:41] <sirrab> Sure are ALOT of peoples here!
[22:41] <karsten> MoPac, may i pm you?
[22:41] <MoPac> SonikkuAmerica: If I want to direct ubottu to a person, do I use the vertical line separator or somesuch?
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> MoPac: To public-say it to someome, use !command | nick ; to have ubottu PM someone, use !command > nick
[22:41] <MoPac> karsten: You may, but I doubt I know anything more about memory usage than what you would find in those links -- much less, actually
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> (The | is Shift+\)
[22:42] <MoPac> SonikkuAmerica: cheers
[22:42] <karsten> MoPac, just a couple of questions not ram related :D
[22:42] <MoPac> I would very much appreciate some help with getting edge flipping to work on my desktop wall if there is anyone at all who actually has it working
[22:43] <sirrab> lunitik, vgdisplay shows the 3 3TB HDD
[22:44] <Yakko> hey guys, I just added a new user to my server, but his PS1 on BASHRC just render $, how can I make it pretty like root
[22:46] <sirrab> q
[22:46] <ericab> is a nvidia gt430 a better card then the gt620 ?
[22:47] <RobbyF> probably not
[22:48] <lunitik> People don't usually give lower numbers to denote better
[22:48] <ericab> well
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ericab: Probably not... higher == newer
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Most of the time
[22:49] <ericab> tbh niviia has a weird naming scheme, there have been a number of 'lower' model numbers recently which were superior to higher model numbers
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> My T4220 doesn't beat out a T732
[22:50] <lunitik> ericab, with the same abbreviation like 'gt'?
[22:50] <karsten> weird questions for all the experts: would on a low Mhz processor be of any help adding shared video ram to watch youtube videos or it would not help at all?
[22:50] <ericab> yeah, for example i know for a fact the 4 series is better then the 5 series
[22:51] <ericab> and i *think* the lower end 6 series is inferior to the higher end 4 series
[22:51] <ericab> high model 6 series however blow 4, and 5 out of the water
[22:51] <lunitik> karsten, Video is rendered on the GPU, so it would help, but it is still decoded on the CPU, so not much
[22:51] <ericab> i dont know what nvidia does this, its really annoying
[22:52] <IonutVan> hi
[22:52] <IonutVan> a static binary (for tcsh) built on ubuntu, should run on any distro basically or a different ubuntu version, right?
[22:52] <karsten> lunitik, what would a decent amount of video ram for all tasks? i currently have 16 and can go up to 64mbs
[22:53] <lunitik> karsten, 256
[22:53] <lunitik> karsten, lol... I don't think you're going to see much difference added only 48 mbs
[22:54] <karsten> well it's almost 4times more :D
[22:55]  * Cassoulette .
[22:55] <lunitik> karsten, well, I mean, but you need like 40 times more
[22:56] <karsten> ops i meant MBs not Mbs :D
[22:58] <Kion> I was working with a Ec2 server and upon reboot the server will not take my public key anymore any ideas?
[23:00] <murder> is this normal? I've a socket listening on *:27240 (all interfaces port 27240), however doing a netstat -an I only see :::27240, showing that its only bind to the tcp6 address, but testing a telnet localhost 27240 or telnet ip 27240 works
[23:00] <murder> why is ubuntu not showing the 27240 is bind into all interfaces?
[23:08] <Sab3r> Can anyone tell me how can i get back to the graphic enviroment after I pressed ctrl + alt + f1 and i'm in the Textzone right now
[23:08] <Sab3r> :D
[23:08] <drichy> what?
[23:08] <drichy> Just log in to your accoutn and start
[23:08] <drichy> startx*
[23:09] <geomyidae> Man, I have defended this stuff at every turn but if Mark keeps firing his mouth off I'll join the angry mob.
[23:09] <RobbyF> ctrl alt f7
[23:09] <AndresSM> Sab3r, alt-f7 I guess
[23:09] <ring0> Sab3r, ctrl + alt + f7
[23:09] <Kion> Sab3r: try Crtl +alt +f7
[23:10] <drichy> I would still just reccommend ctrlaltf2
[23:10] <drichy> then login and startx
[23:11] <RobbyF> Doesn't that create a duplication X session
[23:11] <RobbyF> F7 resumes your previous
[23:11] <drichy> Not if he's already out of X
[23:11] <drichy> like he said
[23:11] <ring0> drichy, no need to start another instance of x. also, startx is not the ubuntu way to start x
[23:11] <drichy> also you can "pkill x"
[23:12] <drichy> startx has worked for me
[23:14] <MrSassyPants> whats the local boot script, /etc/rc.local ? /etc/defaults/local.start ?
[23:14] <Sab3r> thanks  guys! :D
[23:14] <MrSassyPants> I just lost a small script because it randomly erased /etc/rc.local
[23:14] <ring0> Sab3r, ;)
[23:15] <MrSassyPants> and /etc/defaults/local.* ain't there
[23:17] <AndresSM> drichy, you need to do sudo service lightdm restart
[23:17] <AndresSM> or start
[23:17] <AndresSM> not startx
[23:18] <drichy> that's weird
[23:18] <drichy> I've always used starts
[23:20]  * Cassoulette .
[23:20] <ross`_> how do i install hfsprogs
[23:21] <ross`_> ubuntu livecd doesn't have it in apt default sources apparently
[23:22] <Qcki> ross`_, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/hfsprogs
[23:22] <ross`_> got it
[23:22] <Qcki> googling is really hard
[23:22] <ross`_> i added universe
[23:25] <creese> I created a new user, my .profile isn't loading automatically, what did I miss?
[23:28] <ross`_> this is SO weird.. i'm going from unmounted.. to: sudo mount -o remount,rw,force /dev/sdc1 /media/ubuntu/ML/
[23:29] <ross`_> i also tried doing it without remount obviously
[23:29] <ross`_> but either way, even when it is mounted
[23:29] <EnriqueMoreno> Hello guys. I have my Playstation conected to the "aux in", and I would like to get the audio output through the speakers. I've managed to do this in Windows, but I dont know how to achieve it with Ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[23:29] <ross`_> and i run that the first time or after the first time
[23:29] <ross`_> ir won't mount rw
[23:30] <DeadCrow> #anonimous
[23:39] <Gast> ÄäÖÖÜüß
[23:41] <DarkAceZ> holy
[23:41] <DarkAceZ> how can it be so quiet here
[23:42] <bekks> Now you messed it all up
[23:43] <MoPac> If my edge flipping or workspace-movement shortcuts actually worked, I could check back at this workspace more often to make noise.  Sorry.
[23:43] <Adie> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[23:47] <coldpizza72i> Ever since i attempted to change the resolution on my main account it crashes and brings me back to the login screen every time i log in. How can i fix this?
[23:48] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: try deleting the xauthority file in your home folder
[23:48] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: you may need to boot from a live cd/usb to do it, since it can be tricky from guest account
[23:49] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: or you could go in from command line cd to ~/home find the file (I think ".xauthority"? someone correct me) and delete it.  When you log in again, the x session will make a new file that should be un-screwed-up
[23:50] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: not sure how live cd would work since this is a VM
[23:51] <MoPac> coldpizza72i: Well, you just need to access your home folder somehow
[23:51] <MK`> My sound daemon or whatever seems to have crashed, what is its name so I can re-run it? I'm on Ubuntu 11.10
[23:51] <coldpizza72i> Does anyone else concur it is .xauthority?
[23:51] <MK`> I can't switch which device has volume control as a result
[23:52] <cronus> coldpizza72i, isn't .Xauthority the x authorization file?
[23:53] <coldpizza72i> cronus: im not too familiar with ubuntu logistics or what exactly im looking for.. MoPac suggested it
[23:54] <MoPac> I don't actually know much about how it works either, but every time I've had the exact problem you described, deleting that file worked like a charm
[23:55] <MoPac> It was suggested to me by one or two people here
[23:55] <coldpizza72i> MoPac: fair enough
[23:55] <MoPac> I tend to make a backup copy of it just in case I need to replace it back, but I never have
[23:56] <cronus> coldpizza72i, sorry... just ignore what i said. i thought it was you that suggested it
[23:56] <MoPac> See https://encrypted.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=delete+xauthority+file
[23:57] <rob_p> d