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magic_silver_boxUNITOR NO WORKY06:34
magic_silver_box~~~~~~~::/06:34
cfhowlettChange the login icon: I'm running Ubuntustudio 12.04.  Want to customize the default login icon08:35
cfhowlettHow do I change the login icon in Ubuntustudio 12.04  http://imagebin.org/24982309:09
zequencecfhowlett: Don't have lightgdm installed on this machine, but if I would make a wild guess, there might be configs in /etc/lightgdm/*09:10
cfhowlettzequence, I found that.  there's nothing in there that directs to an icon ...09:12
cfhowlettshame because this is the replacement icon ... http://imagebin.org/24982409:13
SunStari dont wanna log out to try it but perhapse this will work?09:14
SunStarhttp://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1585548#post158554809:15
cfhowlettSunStar, I'll look again.  It appears to be a specific lightdm config ...09:16
zequencecfhowlett: Cool looking icon in deed09:19
cfhowlettzequence, yep.  now to incorporate it ...09:20
cfhowlettzequence, hey I sent a couple of wallpaper suggestions to the list. did you see?09:20
SunStarlol you can just rename it to the current icon09:21
zequencecfhowlett: Not yet, but we actually already went ahead and changed the default, adding the two I did. This is for the Beta 1, which is to be built later today09:21
cfhowlettzequence, OK ...09:21
cfhowlettzequence, I install LTS only, but I have been know to harvest artwork from interim releases.  Of course, "rolling release" or whatever happens ...09:22
SunStari mean replace the old icon with your new one by renameing the old one to something else, and the new one uses the old ones name09:22
cfhowlettSunStar, right method, but wrong greeter program.  I need to configure lightDM ...09:22
SunStartry adding "Icon=/path/to/image" into file:///var/lib/lightdm/.cache/lightdm-gtk-greeter/state ?09:26
SunStarno that doesnt seem right n/m09:27
manohi11:29
manohi11:36
zequencemano: hello11:39
manomay u help me plz . iam gonna destroy my laptop if u don't11:40
zequencemano: I hardly think your laptop will be destroyed by Linux, but tell us, what seems to be the problem?11:41
manoi loved LINUX very much it's very smart easy and fast .... i am a music producer recently sed ubuntu studio to have the chance to try ardour ...... qJACKctl is making me crazy don't wanna work11:42
manoalways : ERROR ERROR EROOR11:42
zequencemano: There's a bug with jackdbus. Makes it crash often, when you try to stop it11:43
zequencemano: When that happens, kill it in a terminal, like this: killall -9 jackdbus11:43
zequenceThen try again11:43
zequenceAlso, make sure you aren't using desktop audio, while trying to start jack.11:43
zequenceClose down all pulseaudio applications11:43
manothe problem isn't that it don't wanna stop .. it deosn't even work11:43
zequence..this is, if you are using the same audio card with pulseaudio and jack11:44
zequencemano: Have you ever got jack to start?11:44
zequencemano: do this command: cat /proc/asound/cards11:45
zequencemano: paste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11:45
manoone time after installing LINUX . then i tryed to connect my studio tools on the laptop . then it stoped11:45
zequencemano: I'll help you. Just follow my instructions11:45
manoso what is the first thing to do11:45
zequencemano: as I said, do this command: cat /proc/asound/cards11:46
zequencepaste here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11:46
manodone11:49
zequencemano: Give me the link11:50
manoouch i think i lost it : y don't i write here ?11:50
zequencemano: Each paste gets it's own link. You can use Shift+Ctrl+T to open closed tabs11:51
zequenceJust make another paste, if you can't find it11:51
manohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5604552/11:52
zequencemano: So, which device are you attempting to start jack with? The onboard, or the headset?11:53
manothe laptop card is SRS premium sound but i don't use it . all my sound system is connected to the USB card - C media11:54
manoi managed to play the sound using the usb but ardour don't work because of jack11:54
zequencemano: First, let's see if the onboard device works. We begin by killing jack, just in case11:55
zequencekillall -9 jackdbus11:55
zequenceThen, we start jack, and suspending pulseaudio at the same time:11:55
zequencepasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:011:55
manoi typed the first command11:56
mano killall -9 jackdbus11:56
zequenceIf it says nothing, it killed jackdbus. If it says "no process found", jackdbus was not running11:57
zequenceNow, try the second command: pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:011:57
manoi typed it twice and got the 2 answers11:57
manoooops i saw the word failed11:58
manowill i paste the new info for you ?11:59
zequencemano: No11:59
zequenceThe first command is not important. It's just for making sure jackdbus is killed11:59
zequenceOnce you're done, try the second command11:59
zequenceIf the second command gives you an error, please do paste11:59
manoi did and got alot of sentence but the last one is enogh  it said /: failed to oped server12:00
zequencemano: Paste the entire message from jack12:00
zequencehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12:00
manofrom the terminal r8 ?12:01
zequenceYes, from the terminal12:01
manohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5604572/12:01
zequencehmm, that's weird12:03
manowhat do you think ? won't it work ?12:04
manotake a look on the last message from jack12:06
manohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5604585/12:06
zequencemano: The key error here is Mon Mar 11 14:05:26 2013: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio1 error : Method "RequestRelease" with signature "i" on interface "org.freedesktop.ReserveDevice1" doesn't exist12:07
zequence[0m12:07
zequenceWhich is strange, because we were suspending pulseaudio12:07
zequenceIt seems like pulseaudio is blocking your device12:07
zequencemano: Could you please disconnect your usb device, reboot, and then try starting jack with the command again12:08
zequencepasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:012:08
zequencemano: Use the Up Arrow key to find old commands in the bash history12:09
manook i will try . will i be able to talk to u again ?12:09
zequenceI'll be here12:09
manoreally thank you . i took alot of your time12:10
manoi will reboot now12:11
manoi am back . u r genius12:17
devtekbetaI AM SPARTACUS!12:18
manoi was talking to SO here and helped me 2 solve a problem12:18
devtekbetathen you are in his debt12:19
zequencemano: Seems like pulseaudio might have become entangled somehow. One thing you might want to keep in mind is that when you start jack, make sure pulseaudio is not doing anything12:20
zequencemano: I don't know if your usb device will work with jack though12:20
manook ok but wait there is a notice ... why i can't here any thing ?12:20
manoyou mean i have to use the main sound card ?12:20
zequenceYou can try plugging in the usb device, then try: pasuspender -- jackd -d alsa -d hw:112:21
zequence!proaudio12:21
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro12:21
zequencethat page deals with the audio systems on Ubuntu12:21
zequenceHas some helpful tips12:21
manoi wanna know something plz12:22
zequencemano: Also, try just with the command: jackd -d alsa -d hw:012:22
zequencemano: What you need to understand about pasuspender is that it suspends pulseaudio. You don't need to do that normally. And if you use card A for pulseaudio and card B for jack, you really don't need it12:23
manojack is on . and the usb capture signal . why when i play anything on audacious it don't play ?12:23
zequenceI don't know what audactious is set to use for output12:23
zequencemano: try hydrogen12:24
zequenceThat's usually how I do sound checks12:24
zequenceOk, I need to get something to eat.12:24
zequencemano: I think with what we talked about now, you should be able to figure out most of your problems12:25
zequencemano: Another thing: jackd is not the same as jackdbus12:25
zequenceqjackctl is by default starting jackdbus12:25
zequenceThe problem should not be different. Just a different way to control jack12:25
manoyeah yeah i will complete from this point12:25
manothank you guys12:25
zequencenp12:25
zequenceIt's really too bad with these bugs12:26
magic_silver_boxeEeEEEEEEE14:01
magic_silver_boxmy midi interface is no workky14:01
magic_silver_boxdon't know what to dew14:01
magic_silver_boxso confusing14:01
magic_silver_boxemagic unitor8 mk114:02
magic_silver_boxserial 8x8 midi interface14:02
ronatorhello, may I speak german ? Have some questions relating to xfce under ubuntustudio .. thx14:10
ronatornobody there ?14:14
ronatorsomeone there who can answer support questions ? | jemand da, der support-fragen beantworten kann ?14:32
ronatorok I try some keyords14:42
ronatorhelp14:42
ronatorsupport14:42
ronator:)14:42
ronator<-gettin' some coffee14:42
ronatoram I muted ? no !14:46
ronatorclock is ticking15:15
magic_silver_boxi think people are just away15:22
magic_silver_boxwait a bit15:22
magic_silver_boxwhat is your question?15:22
magic_silver_box(i know nothing)15:22
ronatoryey, finally there is one :)15:23
ronatorohm german ok or do you prefer english ?15:23
magic_silver_boxwell english, but i know nothing about linux so i probably cant help15:23
magic_silver_boxim just starting and my midi interface isnt showing up15:23
ronatorbut u use ubuntu studio ?15:23
ronatorbrave guy ;-)15:23
magic_silver_boxjust installed it15:23
magic_silver_boxso sick of windows15:23
ronatorah, okay than u might be right15:24
magic_silver_boxcant take it anymore15:24
magic_silver_boxyeah on irc sometimes you have to wait until people are active15:24
magic_silver_boxpeople leave it on all day15:24
magic_silver_boxi do15:24
magic_silver_boxeven if they are away15:24
ronatoryeah, but i just switched from gnoe to XFCE and things ar very ... strange to me15:24
anttoof course ;]15:24
magic_silver_boxi just want midi outs and audio outs and renoise + ardour15:24
magic_silver_boxmight try another interface15:25
ronatorand a low lateny kernel ;-)15:25
ronator+c15:25
ronatorwell i just miss some customisation options - starting with customizing the bootloader without editing /etc/grub.conf manually15:26
magic_silver_boxyeah i like ubuntu a whole lot more than windows already, except i dont even know how to load a driver15:26
magic_silver_boxor check if a device is seen15:26
ronatordepends on ...15:26
magic_silver_boxall the how-to www is incredibly confusing15:26
ronatorusb device or midi / pci ?15:27
magic_silver_boxits an old serial midi interface15:27
magic_silver_boxemagic unitor8 mk115:27
magic_silver_boxsome forum people have said it worked right away after OS install15:27
ronatorwell this is a general question, where i might help15:27
magic_silver_boxmine does not appear15:27
magic_silver_boxdo i need to install a driver and which one15:27
ronatoryou connected it to an RS323 interface ?15:28
magic_silver_boxand how ::\15:28
magic_silver_boxyeah rs23215:28
magic_silver_boxdb9 whatever you call it, com port15:28
magic_silver_boxpower on before bootup15:28
ronatorand com1 up to com4 is initialized in BIOS ?15:28
magic_silver_boxlet me see15:28
magic_silver_boxwell i should say yes cause i used a different midi interface on that port when i used windows15:29
magic_silver_boxwell theres only one serial port15:29
magic_silver_boxbios says Onboard Serial Port 115:30
magic_silver_box3F8H/IRQ415:30
ronatoryou could do a "cat /proc/tty/drivers" to get more info about currently used drivers15:31
ronatoron root console15:31
magic_silver_boxill try in a minute15:31
magic_silver_boxloading15:31
ronatorto see all drivers currently loaded do a "lsmod" (list modules)15:31
magic_silver_boxi thought maybe there was an IRQ conflict with my pci soundcard but that would be unlikely15:31
magic_silver_boxworked in windows15:32
ronatorwhen you switch to linux you cannot suppose everythings works in linux as it did in windows *g15:33
magic_silver_boxttyS is on15:33
magic_silver_boxit says irq 415:33
magic_silver_box64-111 whatever that means15:33
magic_silver_boxlast night i found ttyS0 (com port) is on15:33
magic_silver_boxbut it doesnt mention any midi driver15:33
magic_silver_boxor even any sound driver15:33
ronatorwhats losmod saying ? anything related to your midi device ?15:34
ronatorlsmod15:34
ronatordid you try to install a driver already ?15:34
magic_silver_boxthere are some midi things that look generic15:34
magic_silver_boxnothing specific15:34
magic_silver_boxi didnt try to install a driver15:34
magic_silver_boxi dont know how15:34
magic_silver_box::/15:35
ronatordo you know if there is a linuxdriver out there for your device ?15:35
magic_silver_boxi haven't found one15:35
magic_silver_boxmuch searching15:35
ronatorif you can find that ypou could try it the easy way15:35
ronatorwith "insmod /path/to/devicedriver"15:35
ronatorinsmod takes care that other needed modules are loaded15:35
magic_silver_boxmaybe i can find a generic one15:36
ronatorwell since you must know the BAUD rate it would be better yu find the individual driver . but maybe you should ask those dudes in the froum15:36
ronatorforum15:36
ronatorthey should do a "lsmod" that could help you to find out which driver they are actually using15:37
ronatorif they have the same OS (version) and the same device ....15:38
ronatorI really wonder why yours doesn't work out of thebox15:38
magic_silver_boxyeah15:38
ronatormaybe the vendor of your old serial device even offers generic linux drivers - if the company still exists ... did you check their website ?15:43
ronatorI just have no linux here and no experience with serial devices - tty0, ttyS0 - I do not know anything *g15:44
ronatorbut as I said: if someone has this device running, a "lsmod" will provide the needed info for you15:44
ronatordisplay detected system's serial support: "dmesg | grep tty"15:46
ronatoroutput something like15:46
ronator[   37.531286] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A15:46
ronator[   37.531841] 00:0b: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A15:46
ronator[   37.532138] 0000:04:00.3: ttyS1 at I/O 0x1020 (irq = 18) is a 16550A15:46
magic_silver_boxyEAH i got ThaT15:47
magic_silver_boxso the port is active15:47
ronatoryes15:47
magic_silver_boxi have to find a driver15:47
magic_silver_boxbut like15:47
magic_silver_boxi can't even find a generic driver15:48
magic_silver_boxjust cryptic how-to wikis15:48
ronator:)15:48
ronatorfrom which vendor is your device ?15:48
magic_silver_boxemagic15:48
magic_silver_boxthey were bought by apple in 200215:48
magic_silver_boxno linux support15:48
ronatorwhats your system saying after that cmd:15:48
ronatorsetserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123]15:48
ronatorshould be something like15:49
magic_silver_boxthe program 'setserial' is not installed15:49
magic_silver_boxyou can install it by typing sudo apt-get install setserial15:49
ronatoris not ^^ ?15:49
ronatorhm15:49
ronatordo it15:49
magic_silver_boxoh i have to get it online15:50
magic_silver_boxonly hardwire www15:50
magic_silver_boxgot to move it to other room15:50
ronator./dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 415:51
ronator./dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x1020, IRQ: 1815:51
ronator./dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 415:51
ronator./dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 315:51
magic_silver_boxbrb15:51
magic_silver_boxbooting in other room15:52
magic_silver_boxthere are a bunch of updates it wants to install, but i ignored15:53
magic_silver_boxbeing a windows user, i normally ignore the pc when it tells me to update!15:53
magic_silver_boxwindows updates make it worse 100% of the time15:53
magic_silver_boxlike don't do it!15:53
ronatorno good idea, specially on windows ^^15:53
magic_silver_boxNO!15:53
magic_silver_boxsometimes it updates somehow15:53
magic_silver_boxand windows gets even more annoying15:53
magic_silver_boxoK brb i think it booted15:54
ronatormaybe your hardware will be detected if you do get all those updates ?15:54
ronatori would cleary recommend to do regular updates15:54
ronatoreven from evil guys like M$15:55
magic_silver_boxoK it is downloading 300 things ::]15:55
ronatorbtw: is that device a midi keyboard ?15:55
magic_silver_boxthis will take a while ::] ::]15:55
magic_silver_boxno its an 8x8 midi interface15:56
magic_silver_boxfor all my synths15:56
ronatoryeah, i bet you get a new kernel, maybe this will fix everything ;-)15:56
magic_silver_boxyeah maybe a simple fix15:56
magic_silver_box::} ::}15:56
magic_silver_boxthen i can learn linux at a normal rate instead of trying to learn everything at once15:56
magic_silver_boxall i want to do is make beatsssss15:57
magic_silver_boxhttp://www.deepsonic.ch/deep/manuals/emagic_unitor8_mkII_amt8_manual.pdf15:57
magic_silver_boxmine is the unitor8 m115:57
magic_silver_boxmk115:57
magic_silver_boxvery old interface, but people say it is excellent15:59
magic_silver_boxi figure if midi is 30 years old, i don't need a new interface, just a well-made one15:59
ronatorpeople say much about old times and old stuff ;-)15:59
magic_silver_boxmy midiman 4x2 serial one was excellent16:00
magic_silver_boxjust need more ports16:00
magic_silver_boxtoo many synths :;}16:00
magic_silver_boxi can just fit everything on 4 outs and 2 ins, but i think if i put fewer than 16 channels on each output, the timing will be better16:02
magic_silver_boxof course midi cannot have 2 simultaneous events on one cable16:02
magic_silver_boxso if you have 16 channels on a cable, you can get some timing errors16:03
ronatorif you say so ;)16:03
magic_silver_boxi used to do things like putting a tiny silence before the sample and moving the midi notes back16:03
magic_silver_boxso they wont be at the same time as other notes16:03
magic_silver_boxbut the sound play at the same moment16:04
magic_silver_box+s16:04
ronatori'd suggest you do all those updates, reboot it and maybe we will meet here later again. I am about to leave the office ;-)16:04
ronatormeanwhile you could ask those who got that device running what "lsmod" is saying ...16:05
magic_silver_boxyes16:05
magic_silver_boxi will do these things16:05
magic_silver_boxyou have been very helpful!16:05
ronatori tried to at least - serial is not my world ^^16:05
magic_silver_box::} ::}16:05
ronatormaybe i get some karma and soe one can help ME :)16:05
ronatorso see you later then ....16:06
ronatorand good luck !!!16:06
magic_silver_boxwhat a nice guy16:32
magic_silver_boxstill installing things16:32
magic_silver_boxstill installing! i guess 310 updates take a whie17:15
magic_silver_boxl17:16
magic_silver_boxno worky17:38
TboneHi !18:22
TboneAm i alone ?18:23
magic_silver_boxy0~19:11
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SunStarwhen cfhowlett was looking for how to change the login answer, this was the solution: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Changing_the_Icon23:30
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